Human Nagash EditionNew AI Beta: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/69-total-war-warhammer-iii-improving-ai-in-campaign-part-2>Stuff1d6chan: https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Total_War:_Warhammer/TacticsRoll Charts: https://imgur.com/a/81snQma>Total War: Warhammer IIISteam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1142710/Total War: WARHAMMER III - Dev Chat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avVyfLV6YXITotal War: WARHAMMER III - Improving AI in Campaign - Part 2: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/69-total-war-warhammer-iii-improving-ai-in-campaign-part-2Patch Notes 6.1 dev blog: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/49Balance Changes 6.1: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/forums/7-patch-notes-amp-announcements/threads/9319-total-war-warhammer-iii-patch-6-1-battle-balance-details>Older TitlesSteam: https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/TotalWar-OfficialPrevious thread: >>521272546
Thanquol soon, friends!
Sweet TCALvar where are the further DLC reveals?
>>521410831That's not Nagash, this is Nagash.
>>521410831>>521411023Weak
Skulls Events are the 4th Thursday of May which means the 22nd this year. What are we getting?
So is the beta AI any good, or just a waste of time?
>>521411004May for second race, June for third race, July for blog posts and let's plays, and August for release.
>LUMPIN CROOP'S FIGHTIN' COCKS!>HERE, NOW, WHAT DID I HEAR YOU SAY ABOUT OUR BESSIE?! SHE'S THE BIGGEST SOW IN THE MOOT!>AS PLUCKY AS A COCK ON TOP OF THE DUNG PILE!
Neferata's dlc_ soon, mortals!
>>521410831>>521411023Those arent Nagash, this was Nagash
Legend says that a new historical title has entered pre-production and looks to be set in 1500's Eastern Europe.
>>521411351>boring VC gameplay but with a shit version of seduce and lords that can't 1v1 other lordsAre people really ready to pay $20 for this trash?
>>521411059So are Vardek CROM and Asavar KUL. Honestly it's just another part of weird 8thE. And like most things associated with 8thE, GWs had no fucking clue what they were doing.
>>521411515and i believe him
One (1) dwagun down
>>521411515Legend has a perfect record when it comes to news/predictions/leaks so i believe it.
>>521412236Lords of Shenyang soon Mungbros!
>engineer the perfect endturn scenario>rando beastmen out of nowhereI fucking hate these fucking cunts.
>>521411004Come, Nerevar, come, come and look upon my moves. The false Tribunal no doubt poured empty words into your ear, stating they beat me in a dance contest? The fools they are. They would not dare even accept my challenge to a dance off. I spied out from Dagoth Ur- yes, the building, and saw Almalexia attempting to practice. She was flossing, Nerevar! No, not her teeth, I- I'd assume she flosses regularly as one should. No, I didn't say she doesn't floss her teeth, I- Nerevar I simply meant in this one instance of me spying on her bedchambers that sh- 'Peeping Tom'? Nerevar, do you use this word 'Tom' because I am black, as a spinoff of 'Uncle Tom'? Jumping to conclusions? You deride me for my racism yet sling such casual remarks at me? 'It's just a phrase'? Nerevar, we might need to see other people. I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
I love Crushers so much, being able to beat any cavalry the enemy has with no worries is the greatest thing ever.
>>521412565WAAAH, KANDAR ANGROM ERPETOOOL? ULLA DE FAZWA! SKAZ'T ALL AN' DRENGIII! IS ASTRAGOTH, ZULAHOOO!
>>521412647*laughs in Rot Knight*
Who do you want as Nagash's VA? I want Clancy Brown but he might sound a little bit too old.And Shadowheart's VA for Neferata.
>>521413174Danny Devito
>>521413174Brown would be great. Hopefully cheats that replace the stupid bone pope model with classic Nagash don't take too long to release.
>>521413174Chris Pratt or Jack Black as NagashAkwafina as Neferata
>>521413174the guy who says BOYYY! in Phantasm
>>521413174Nagash has a cringe way of speaking in a screeching high pitched and loud voice. He isn't cool at all and a mtf trannie would he the perfect cast for him.
>>521413174Nagash should have either classic Skeletor speak or Grimm's voice from Billy and Mandy
>>521413174Alan Oppenheimer.
>>521413242
>>521413646his voice is supposed to be booming and louder than that of any other character as a take on Terry Pratchett's death character
>>521411515Nah, they'll pivot. Trust the plan.
>>521412925Those things are nasty. Have just played out several 1vs1 tests and the Rot Knights even ended up winning once. Real battles are of course different.
>>521411515It's gonna be a early iron age sequel to Pharaoh. 100% certified Assyrian KINO incoming.
Soon.
>>521411515Legend is wrong, CA just pivoted this morning
>>521414423Infinitely better than the AoS trash they put in End Times.
>>521414081>100% certified Assyrian KINO incoming.ANNINA DOOMSKULL KABANUUU...NIBURTU!
Why do chuds have such a hard time coping with the fact that AoS won?
>>521414423Rich Aldridge already said we aren't getting Nagash. Something about being too hard to fit into the game.
>>521414884Go play AoS Total War if you like it so much.
>>521414884I don't hate AoS in it's entirety. It has some cool things like Skragrott and Gloomspite. But Nagas and his cronies that got their AoS models premiered in ET all look like WoW rejects not Warhammer.
>>521411610Yes, I will. Now go back to crying about how Delves get treated so unfairly.
>>521414986>hard>nagash is a skeleton>bones are hard
>>521414986>too hard to fit into the game.Only if you want to put his cringe ET version. There is no problem with inserting his 4th edition incarnation.
Lore of Shadows or lore of Heavens?
>>521405538It's high effort in that if you want it to sound good you have to record all the lines yourself and then use AI to dub the voice over with your enunciation. Modders that put in lots of effort are few and far between and most of them are trannys who act like the use of AI is actively holocausting artists.
>>521415262>Now go back to crying about how Delves get treated so unfairly.meds
>>521415510heavens, those meteors are fucking insane, Foot of Gork tier, and you get web, which is OP
>>521415510For which race/faction?
>>521415251AoS has Nagas?
>>521415719>and you get webThat's lore of Light.>>521415730Empire.
>>521415719Net is LightComet is slow to cast, you need a SEM faction to really use them on units in combat without killing your own
>>521415781>EmpireShadows
>>521414986At least save my screenshot from the article so you can post it when you say that. This is Richard Aldridge in an interview when he was asked about Nagash back in December about a week after Omens of Destruction released.
>>521416019That's silly considering Kroak is in the game and absurdly powerful
>>521415769mmmm
>>521416019I've never seen "your" screenshot. I remember reading the article a while ago when it was first posted on /twg/.
>>521415781Heavens mage for Franz's army because of thishttps://youtu.be/HyU_1-Py0dA?t=145Shadows is more reliable tho. Melkoth spam is very strong. Pendulum is also pure AP.
>>521416134Kroak only becomes absurdly powerful in ETHe's a TT character unlike Nagash and only exists for a single spell
>>521415837>you need a SEM faction to really use them on units in combat without killing your ownjust lrn2aim
>>521416392Kroak is ETs powerful in TW, easily a 3k+ kill per battle character
>>521415510Heavens, both are good though. Shadows gets good quite because of the great value of Overcast Pendulum, but Pit of Shades could never match COMET. I also think Curse of Midnight Wind is better than Enfeebling Foe, although EF works very well with Occam's Mindrazor to assassinate lords.
>>521416418>cast comet behind enemy unit to keep it from hitting your own unit>60% of the AoE is fucking wastedThunderbolt is far more useful as Empire
>Looking up some Warhams videos on youtube.>Get recommended a streamer.>Has a campaign from a few months ago with like 40+ fucking parts.>Open him out of curiosity.>Acts very excited and entertained even towards the end.>Has a sick ass hairdo.>Only has like 5 views on his last few videos then he stopped uploading.Man, I feel bad when I see this kinda stuff.
>>521416392Why would you cite Kroak's ET rules and then pretend Nagash didn't have ET rules
>>521416741So link it.
>>521416392Reminder that when they added Nagash in ET they made sure to remove Malekith's sword and shield so Nagash dosen't kill himself from casting spells.
I want Nagash added so I can crush his skull
>>521416974He has spares
>>521416691>Can use comet to trade 1 of your units for 4 of there's>Let's just waste 60% of itCoward
So they can't use End Times models right? So Nagash will use his ancient model instead of this one correct? I mean they didn't add Mannfred's end time model.
>>521416828https://www.youtube.com/@Buzz.Lightskin/videosAlright but don't call me a shill and definitely don't assume it's him. I haven't even checked if he still streams at all yet, for all I know guy might have quit.
>>521417029>4 enemy units wailing on the same unit of spearmen>breaks during the 3 hour cast time of the comet>a single unit of goblins is left in the zone by the time it hits the ground
>>521417080This looks so dumb. It doesn't fit VC nor Kangz at all. What was CA thinking when they made this?
>>521417080Wait. Why does everyone hate his End Times model? I think it looks good.
>>521417363the ET mortarch mounts were also retarded as hell, they looked like weird seahorses, and in a much worse way than Slaaneshi fiends
>>521417080What are those Ice Wraiths doing out of SkyrimIs Todd trying to run Skyrim in a tabletop rulebook now?
>>521417080Arkham has his AoS model used in TW. Thats why he has that out of place armor that doesn't look Khemrian in the slightest.
>>521417363>What was CA thinking when they made this?Large amounts of money.
>>521415769My nagas
Elthy the Grim and Volkmar the Grim and Grimgor the Grim and Ungrim the Grim and Thorgrim the Grim and Grimgrimgrimgrim grimgrimgirmgrimgrimgrimgrimgrimgrim
>>521417752The AoS warriors of chaos kit is the big money maker of the first edition of AoS. No one even uses Nagash.
Current battle AI is pretty nasty.>perfectly dodges artillery shots>immediately disengages and tries to dodge bombardment spells>Ignores your single entities>Always tries to flank>Goes strait after your damage dealers>Immediately takes control of its previousşly routed units and send them right back to your artillary/ranged>Prefectly times its mass assault and overwhelms you with flying units We would be truly fucked if it could use it magic efficiently.
>>521417379It's over-designed (typical CAD). It's not as bad as the AoS Archaon, which is to say the lines aren't awful and draw attention to his face. But said face is so small and insignificant that it robs the model of any poise. And as others have mentioned, it doesn't fit the aesthetic of either the VCs or Kangz.
>>521417127Grim.
>>521416343>because of this>Shows that trailer with the heavens wizard getting mauled to death.Doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it?
Are copper plated ships good for anything in FOTS, or should I just build ironclads?I ask because I'm thinking of using copper for my screens.
>>521417080If they use the End Times version of Neferata expect them to use that for Nagash.
>>521418000I've seen it spaghetti string a unit of dogs to fit them through a gap to my archers. Seems that the AI is programed to use SEU, dogs, and light cavalry to get to your backline at all cost. Which is interesting but really does a number of the old chevron formation. Infantry tend to act in the same old manner.
Lol. Lmao, even.
>>521418000or actually make non-meme builds when it has the buildings. (flying) SEM spam, mobile ranged/tank spam is the AI meta
rip the spine out of every wood elf and burn down every one of their fucking trees
>>521418223>Nothing speaks undead like a metal sculpture of a horse.So this is it. This is how TW3 is gonna die huh? Just another victim of ET.
>>521418223>Do we go with classic Elvira/Addams family look>How about the sexy Egyptian look>No, lets go with the AoSlite design
>>521418579>AoSliteIt not even light it's straight AoS her mount only makes sense in AoS.
>>521417948Chaos warriors didn't get their refresh until nearly 6 years after AoS launchedThey are some of the best models GW has ever made though, helps that they're just the old ones but better (BLOOHOO HOO THEY DONT RANK UP AS WEL- fuck off)
I'm struggling to play Thorek Ironbrow on hard campaign
>>521418223So this is what people that demand VC dlc want? CA should ignore those retards this shit can't under any circumstances make it into TW3.
>>521418334you cant win that
>>521418912Chaos warriors actually got a new plastic kit right before ET came to a close. It was very popular at the time.
Playing Elspeth on the old world map with the AI beta. Can't really tell if it changed anything yet. Empire is still so piss easy that the elector counts already pacified their enemiesTime to make my own enemies
>>521419168Considering their lord and a couple T5 halberds was the only reliable killing power in the entire army I couldn't not win that.
>>521418515That's not metal. That's suppose to be bone.
>>521419347They got a rebox, they're the same models from hordes of chaos in 6th edition, early-mid 2000s
>>521419043>Try no to take too much damage on the first battle, give the anti large rune to longbeards and have them hold off the spider>Get in to box formation let quarellers work>take the settlement te same way>recruit 2 dwarf warriors>build the barracks to tier 2>Recruit another lordTurn 2>take the next settlement>recruit 2 more dwarf warrior>set the commandmet to recruit oneTurn 3>Force march Thorek's army to greensin major settlement so you can attack the next turn>recruit a Thane hero>move your otherr lord in normal stance >recruit 3 quarellersTurn 4>Attack the major settlement with Thorek>force march the other lord to support>destroy the towers with catapult>Let quarellers workTurn 5>take the ruin settlement>Ignore the event war, pick the book optionTurn 6>Attack the vampshits at Mahrak(?)>take the settlementturn 7>Get close to Lahmiaturn 8>Take Lahmiaturn 9>Sell Lahmia to Khalida for gold>Get close to fight Queek.
I am extremely upset we are only getting a dlc trailer this year for Skulls Event on May 22nd instead of a LH.
>>521419347Chaos Warriors are really really hard to fuck up. They're straight forward and have a nice design, hence why so many kids were drawn to them.
>>521419347That's the 2004 Chaos Warriors.
HUAH-HUAH-HUAH-HUAH HAA-OOO HAA-OOO HAA-*CAW CAW*HAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>521420910-wk tuah
>>521418223>>521417080I like the Nagash designs from ET/AoS and I frankly think the only reason people dislike the designs is the fact it's related to ET. It's not about the look at all and people can't separate the two issues (lore vs design)Same issue with the vast majority of "it looks bad" that's directed at primaris marines. People just hate primaris marine lore, and can't separate the two things.
>>521421446>I'm going to ignore to complaints people have listed and just chalk it up to people being saltyBrilliant idea anon.
>>521420853One of the things I'll give to AoS is that the god specific chaos warriors are all kino as fuck, imo
>>521421676They're a little over designed, but for the most part it's good work. Much better than they old "paint your warriors pink/purple" approach.
>>521421676
>>521421863If any faction should be overdesigned and gaudy, it's Slaanesh>>521422095The chest piece there is pretty close to Sigvald's resculpt, kino as fuck
HEEVE HO FOR ROCK AND STONE
>>521422310DA DRAZH KAZAD WOKOOZ?
>>521419984>>Take Lahmia>turn 9>>Sell Lahmia to Khalida for goldahh the desperation move when you're out of options
>>521421653>complaintsThere are never any valid complaints. But for those in this thread>It doesn't fit VC or KangzBecause Nagash is technically neither.>over designedA non criticism. Besides the fact it's subjective, big setpiece models have always had complexity to their designs. Even some of the more standard units like dragon princes have a huge flare to them.>face poorly defined on NagashThat one just isn't true. If you've seen the Nagash model up the close the face has detail>I'd rather Neferata without the big hatCongrats, your taste is bad. Big hat Neferata is the superior version. This is the same type of people in my view that think the TW Morathi model's hair needs improving when it's one of the nicest parts of her model. Or the people that bitched about Elspeth's cowl.
>>521419984>>521422894I do the general outlines but I will typically take the grudge quest because I struggle to get enough grudges without it
>>521413174>Shadowheart as NeferataOh boy so we can get NotShadowheart, form of Cleopatra because she cant do any other voice>>521413536Incredibly based taste, too bad Angus Scrimm passed away almost a decade ago, Tall Man is badass
>>521423142Once you start against Scarbrand or Queek, groodges cum quick
I want Neferata because I like her as a character. I don't care that much whether which version we'll get. And she has plenty of those. Whether it's her OG look, her Nehekharan one or ET one.
>>521420910Sometimes a parrot talks!
Can you confederate everyone with any faction in Total War Troy? Need to know if thats possible before purchasing that and the DLC
>>521424425Also how similarly does it play to Pharaoh? Pharaoh has been really fun so far its just a shame I cant confederate all of Greece under 1 faction then march on Egypt to burn it to the ground
>>521423078The bone shako is stupid and complete out of place>>521423876See, this is kino art.
Imagine if we got Rome 3
>>521425121It fits with the aeshetic of the faction as I already said.I mean it's not as if old Nagash fit the tomb kings either.
If you could add 3 provinces anywhere you wanted, which 3 would add the most to the game?
There's also this Neferata.
>>521425310Classic Nagash hearkens back to the classic Sword and Sorcery villain aesthetic, with a bit of Fu-Manchu thrown in. Good stuff. New Nagash looks straight out of World of Warcraft.
>>521425485We don't need more Greenskins content.
>>521417080>they can't use End Times models right?Yes they can, the Wrathmongers and Skullreapers are End Times and they're in the game.The Keeper of Secrets even uses his Age of Sigmar design!
>>521425236Imagine if we got Romein TWW
And this.
Savage Orcs Boar Boys Big'Uns!
CumShitShare my fire
>>521425608New Nagash has a unqiue design and accurately represents the character as he became. Good stuff. Old Nagash looks like a bog standard lich necromancer from a D&D book.You're genuinely unable to separate design from lore and it's hilarious how utterly mindless your hatred for something good is just because it's associated to something bad.
Are there any good Valkia reskin mods?
Also this one is good, but I might be biased because boobs...
>>521425676Julius Caesar is an LL via mods already
>>521425932>No you can't possible hate it for aesthetic reasons, it has to be because you don't like my poor age of sigmarNah, it just sucks. AoS can have decent designs, see >>521421676 Most of the Ogre, sorry Ogors™ is good too. Nagash and the Mortarchs are just awful designs.
The only Neferata that matter.
>casually dropping hints with the Sith Master alive for the majority of Phantom MenaceTotal Star Wars is all but confirmed to launch alongside Total Wourtyk
Stop using Jon Sullivan's art, let's just forget he ever existed
>>521425702This one's my favorite.
>>521426058Nefertitty
>>521426501No. I liked this Nagash.
NAGASH WAS WEAK
>>521426304And yet you've yet to come up with a single good argument against the "bad design" beyond "I don't like it" or "it doesn't fit"Here's the thing. I don't care if you like it or not. I care you're pointing to it being poorly designed. Those two things are not the same.If you don't like it, don't buy the inevitable Nagash DLC when it's got those designs.
>>521410831I like the part 2 image better. Jon Sullivan did some great art for Warhammer.
>>521427121No you don't, nobody does
>>521427256Neferata was bad at sex.Her gash was weak.
>>521427501I do. He did some really nice pieces.
>>521427486Now this is peak trolling
>>521427757Sure he did - nice jaw on that dragon
>>521427979And what about his Night Lords?
>>521425702>AI art before AI art era
Are we ever going to Khaine dlc for Dark elves to finish their roster?
>>521428418Turns out the AI was trained purely on Sullivan's art.
How do you do fellow men of the Empire
>>521428742Arbaal has a Kislevite accent
>>521428495This is the entirety of the missing roster, there never was an "Avatar of Khaine" unit in Warhammer Fantasy.
>>521428495How dare you post a statue of Khaine. Dark Elves aren't allowed to add their missing 8th edition stuff just like Wood Elves and Dwarves aren't. Only High Elves are are allowed another DLC to get skycutters and a bunch of old edition stuff in a DLC.
>>521428495But we already have Hellebron, Witch Elves, Cauldron of Blood, Executioners and Death Hags. Not to mention Death Nights, Blood Voyages and Sword of Khaine.
>>521428881No pagowyms, magma dragons, manticore lords, doomsteeds? That is just off the top of my head.
>>521428881No Doomsteeds? I like their model.
so umm, when will our units move automatically when *targeted* (not under fire) by artillery, then do zig-zag maneuvers to confuse the predictive shots, one again, automatically? the AI has access to it, that means so will we soon :)
>CA only updates 2 races each DLC>its Slaanesh/Helves/Delves>Slaanesh obviously gets a botox>Helves get a rework>Delves dont get anything>now miss out on ever getting a rework
>>521430131Just as soon as we get access to the AI's ability to use loose formation when getting shot by missiles and the AI's ability to slide dogs through and around units to attack your entire archer line at the same time
>>521428495Here I made a dlc not just Khaine themed though.>LL: Tullaris>LH: Shadowblade and Kouran Darkhand no generic hero because I want to pull a Khorne DLC to get double LH.>Generic lord: Manticore Lord>Generic hero none>Unit 1: Statute of Khaine>Unit2 : Doomsteeds>Unit3: Magma Dragon>Unit4: Aeskhaine>Unit5: Sea Dragon
>>521430131I'd honestly just take a stance that makes sure units will not move.
>>521430131the AI manually moves its units by gookclicking, why aren't you doing that too anon?
>>521430427forcing the AI to give orders only as fast as a human could would be a neat change
>>521429485i swear every time i come in these threads i learn about new units i had no idea existed. they used to gaslight us here that reiksguard infantry didn't exist until people started posting images of books with their stats and tabletop models. now i found out dark elves have doomsteeds which was in 3rd and 6th edition apparently.
>>521430534https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5RP4JriMkfine.
>>521430771I said human
>>521430821whats the problem unc, brain doesnt work that fast anymore?
>>521428495That is an End Times unit including the model. It was carried over later into Age of Sigmar and renamed avatar from statue. I don't think they are allowed to use it.
GUYSGUYS IM FIGHTING A DEFENSIVE BATTLE AND THE AI DIDNT WAIT 4 TURNS OR BRING IN A BILLION STACKS
>>521429286>>521429485The manticore lord is in the game in a sense because Rakarth is a Lord that can ride a Manticore - the option is missing from the generic Lords but the model is there already.Pagowyrm and Magma Dragon are more neutral but maybe I should add them.Doomsteeds and Doomdrakes seem to me like they are just older names for Dark Riders and Cold One Riders - but then again I did include "Dark Elf Scouts" and those are pretty much just prototypes for what will become Dark Elf Shades.I don't know, maybe I need to do a revision.I also found Nobles on foot and Noble Cavalry in 2e Ravening Hordes, now that I look better.
>>521431520go back
>>521430417Don't do the Sea Dragon, do the whole Doomreaver with a watch tower on the dragon's back - now that's a tier 5 unit
>>521431374I would add magma dragons because they are really only suppose to be used by dark elves and chaos dwarves. Especially since everyone adds Merwyrms to High Elves when about a dozen faction can use them.
>>521431320Might actually be fun.>>521430417They don't need a new DLC. A FLC update for manticores and doomsteeds is all the need. Not that they will really get used because you'll always upgrade to a dragon.
Asked Grok about the 2 other races in the DLC:>Delves because linked to Slaanesh with the cult of pleasure and sorceresses, he mention Kharbana as LL>VCounts mentioning Neferata and how her seduction with the lahmian sisterhood would fit a Slaanesh themed DLC, also mention VCounts need a rework>Helves, less likely but Aislinn may be included because DLC need a "good race".>Norsca because of the lack of contents>Skaven to include Thanquol even if less thematic
>521431881>I asked a mechanical parrt
>>521428881And there never was any 'Stag Knights" unit in Warhammer Fantasy.So your point is ?
Best Beastman generic lord?
>>521431881Which AI did you ask because I do deep search with Grok it says Norsca is most likely and then it list Dark Elves, High Elves, and Grand Cathay in that order for likelihood.
>>521431881Ask Grok when we will get El Drongo as a legendary lord with his Biomechanoids
>>521431374What about Helldrakes from 4th edition. A faster smaller version than Sea Dragons that have multiples rather than a single entity?
>>521430158Helves will be the ones without a real rework.They will just take the mod adding the "Court of the Phoenix King" tower put it in game and give credit to the moder
>>521430417>Generic lord: Manticore LordRemplace by a Hag Queen Lord.>Generic hero noneAdd Hero level Beastmaster.
>>521433107Hag queen lords are always a good choice.
>>521432662I can't find the Helldrakes as a unit of multiples, the only Helldrake I could find was the one carrying the Doomreaver in Man O' War, and nothing else
>>521432464https://grok.com/Asked "If he know who will be the 2 other races alongs Slaanesh in the incoming Total War Warhammer III DLC"
>>521433243a guy in a few threads ago told me hag queens weren't real? why is there a model?
Poor City Commander and Noble.Too vanilla to ever count for anything.
>>521433643>Dark Elf WarriorKino. Not a single trademark name.
CA needs to add the white dot of shame back for anyone playing vanilla on the current update since its a cheated campaign
>>521433420Probably some dumbass who thinks this has everything. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2755960032I sent towns of links of to those guys of models/scans showing units, lords, and heroes that exist and they refused to put them on there saying they aren't real. They started blocking me once I started sending scans of the dwarf ale/beer cart which name changes on edition plus the table top models.
>>521434420>zero points valuefive hundred beer cartswin by numbers attrition
Why are melee unit so useless? I lost an entire army once to a single lord because he healed more than my melee were doing in damage, ranged don't have this problem
>>521435291Melee damage is slow, ranged damage is immediate.
>>521435291Yeah, try playing Nurgle, try playing Khorne, try playing Greenskins, try playing Archaon, try playing Ghorst, try playing Beastmen, try playing Bretonnia, and say that againmake a gunline army with N'Kari, why don't youyou BITCH
>>521427486>Jon Sullivan did some great artit's time to stop
>>521427486Photoshop and its consequences
the feet enchantress
>>521435291Melee's actually good in 3. It's nothing like 2, and ranged has been nerfed a bit. Melee swarms are terrible at tacking down singe lords though. Only a couple of entities can hit the lord at time, and they can rarely deal with the high melee defense, armour, and probably physical/war save. Unless it's something whack like a unit of Wildwood Rangers beating down on a terror causing foot lord like Vlad. Was it Sigvald?Anyway, to deal with single lords on foot you either shoot them, snipe them with magic, or bring a goon squad of your own heroes. Monstrous infantry also work.
>>521436696It was a disciple army against some elf guy, not like I can change the team comp
MORE FUEL
>>521438274MORE SACRIFICES
>campaign already feels over before I've even gotten to use any of the cool unitsWhy does this always happen?
>>521438476A racririce?
>>521438669Well, this is why they added endgame scenarios...
>get to level 30 on WE lord>unlock the final RoR>it's a shitty tier 2 unit>get to like level 7 on a WoC lord>unlock two tier 4 RoRsAre they ever doing something about RoRs?
>>521438669>No anti-snowball mechanic>Replenishment means you never have to wait around once you've got your 1st stack>Anti-player bias>Defending is really weak in TWW, its much much harder to pull of heroic victories in siege defense>AI develops quicker than the human so if left to its own devices it will come and roll you with 3 stacks of T4 and 5 units>Only solution to all the above is to expand hyper aggressivelyIt's fundamental issue to the game. Try Wood Elves or something. They don't experience it quite as bad as other faction due to their unique mechanics.
>>521438989I wish. Doubt it though. RoRs were perfect in Warhammer 1. You could get cannons and stuff at level 10 which gave you a nice little early game experience of the good stuff to come.
Are you sure you wish to exit /twg/ for the night?You will lose all unposted progress.
>>521439678heh
>>521433420>a guy in a few threads ago told me hag queens weren't real? Guy should read 4th edition army book.> why is there a model?Actually i don't think there was a model for the Blood Queen (maybe on the old Blood Cauldron).
When are Norscans getting their Slann LL
I'm playing a belegar campaign with the betaThorgrim got destroyed by the crooked moon and yet I'm not at war with the crooked moonCrooked moon is strength number 1I get to karak eight peaks and the crooked moon rebellion is in control of it and some other provinces, I'm at war with themIronclaw orcs suicided against me for some reason
>>521440440Brilliant tactical and strategical Gorhomosexual move. You wouldn't understand.
Any tips for my first kairos campaign? How to use what units? Anything in particular that's fun to try?
>>521442570>How to use what units?you don't need units, kairos will win every battle for you
>>521442570>Kairos>Funlol. Funny because he makes Teclis complete cancer as well. Neither are particularly fun.>Any tips.Bully locals, bully Hevles, prepare your anus for Lizards.
>>521442724>lizardslizards aint shit, I know the secret to beating them every time no matter what. Why isn't he fun?>>521442659good to know
>>521442980What's the secret?*blowdarts you while you're explaining*
>>521440291Only way you are realistically getting that is if they do a CoC style for Norsca since he would be the Skeggi lord.
any cheats that replace all siege battles with ye olde settlement battles? And any cheats that spice up maps in general, maybe not adding custom ones but allowing more maps to be used all over the place, especially the speeshial variants (chokepoints, quest maps) and whatnots, thanks in advance, have an unrelated miku
>>521444115MIKUMIKUUWU
>>521443836thats bullshit dude you can't just ask me a question and then blowdart me while im talking that isn't fair What would you guys say marauders are better at than blue or pink horrors? Do they make for better meat shields to buy time for horrors to sling lead downrange than blue horrors themselves?is there a reliable guide somewhere so I don't have to ask /twg/ all these questions?
>>521438825what a great postgood job
>>521444250Marauders are better at a front line for human lords.However once you can, swap them for chosen or at least Warriors
>>521444250Horrors wreck elves. Just spam them.
>>521444643I would not have thought that. Why? Just a spammable somewhat tanky but also ranged unit?
DANIEL? THATS A JEW NAME
>>521444752GRIFFINS? THOSE ARE CHAOS CREATURES!
>>521444752Who are the jews in Warhammer fantasy?
>>521445720skaven, obviously
>>521445856Nah Skaven are gypsies.
>>521445720The Dawi
>>521445720It depends.>clannish autists that have a cosmopolitan streakDwarves>(((they)))HE and Tzeentch>civilization destroyersSkaven, but honestly the Skaven are a parody of humanity as a whole with their worst possible traits up to eleven.
>>521445720The Dawi (zharr)Look at those noses.
>>521444720Pretty much. Elf spear and archer spam struggles to deal with physical resist, and the lowish damage of horror isn't a big deal versus low armor elves. Just be smart about getting them into range.
>>521446226HASHUT'S BOLG!
>>521446387I hadn't noticed a physical resist trait, I'll have to give them another look over. strangely enough the helves so be really spreading in southern lustria, not gorok or the plague rats
>>521446973Elves are EASY to kill so let them thrive.
>>521447032Better than Gorok I guess. Teclis seems to be thriving as well in the southern badlands or whatever the southern tip of the old world continent is called
My attention has been yanked around by other games recently, how is that AI beta looking?
>>521447632AI now feels completely unlike a real player with its ability to perfectly dodge artillery and gookclick its way around the battlefield. CA doesn't make the AI 'better', it just adds more cheats.
>>521447339southland.you should rush Teclis because the empire or Tomb Kings are better than elves.
I was just wondering whether Cathay people can breed with Empire peopleAre they the same species?
>>521447964rogeralso how did oxyotl shit out two full stacks on turn 20 to take my capital
>>521448439He does that.You gotta kill nurgle, get mil access with the minor Tzeench faction, then rush OxyORkill nurgle, rush teclis, save Sarthol and Confed him, then play catch up with oxy's 3 stacks of invisiniggas
>>521445856Skaven are USAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPjc5ecgmZw
>>521448891wrong, dark elves are
>>521448860what about the slaanesh faction right next door>>521448891shut the fuck up canadian shut your fucking mouth
>>521448982that Slaanesh faction is dangerous, however Tzeench and Slaanesh have a MINOR dislike of each other when compared to nurgle. You're semi-safe against them
>>521449050Nurgle is already gone. Should I get rid of oxyotl before slaanesh?
>>521448941>DRUCHII, BLOODY SLAUGHTER!
>>521449164>Leave Slaanesh border to go rush Oxyotl>Slaanesh Declares warI genuinely hate this fucking shit franchise I dont even know why Im herelegitimately fuck this game
>>521449164YES! 9/10 especially if Sarthol is dead
>>521449184>THE HIGH ELVES. THEY'RE NOT GOOD PEOPLE. NOT GOOD. THEY STOLE THE THRONE FROM MALAKETH. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. WHICH IS WHY WE'RE GOING TO PUT A BIG BEAUTIFUL BLACK ARC RIGHT OFF THE COAST OF ULTHUAN AND WE'RE GOING TO ENSLAVE BABY ENSLAVE!
>>521421676>>521422095>>521422310They'd do well with a fantasy spartan theme. Half naked dudes with huge polished mirror shields.The Chosen can have that golden chest armor, more ornate, but still with that spartan look molded to their perfect, sculpted body.
>>521449457Odd. I've found they're trustworthy
>>521449457Rush '"force peace" and spam it.
>>521449646>sit for 20 turns rushing one tech>get killed by oxyotle AND slaanesh>hurrrrrr well you should have fucking done *whatever the fuck else*!!!
I LOVE MCDONALDS
>>521449638>Long hair>Pussy whipped>Spend all their time in the barracks buming each otherSeems about right for Slaanesh
>>521431881Grok is dumb. I asked it last week which Dark Elf LL is the most likely and he was trying to convince me that Shadowblade is already in the game as a leader of a minor Delf faction called Shadowy Dealings with a starting point... the one where Valkia starts, Icefrost Glacier or something. It even told me what mechanics does he have and that can be summoned by a rite by major Delf factions. Oh, and he apparently came out in The Shadow and the Blade DLC. I (probably needlessly) untangled this mess, but Grok lost all the credibility for me.
>>521445720dwarfs
>>521449748There isn't really any other tech that's important so early. Seems like you go unlucky as ihaven't had slaanesh declare war on me and usually used it for teclis as i went and beat up Oxy up. If you make a lord and stack a few horror's in a city you can usually auto resolve slaanesh. They have terrible AR.
Is there ANY possibility that Sigvald just gets moved to Slaanesh in a patch during Slaanesh release and then we get the Tzeentch FLC this time around?
>>521450690Now why CA do something that reasonable.
*everyone you share a border with declares war with you* hey how do I deal with this HURRR ITS CALLED TOTAL WAR RETARD lellele!!!!reddit franchisereddit general
>>521450690Zero. It's a legal issue with selling DLC. That said i can't see why they cant modify some slaanesh mechanics onto Sigvald.
>>521450935>Uninstall and play 3K were the diplomacy actually worksThat's your best option>Still want to play WarhammerYou've got to go out of your way to actually make friends with people. Every turn you should be looking to make deals. Also check what faction people like and don't like. Eg Being friendly with Durthu for example will cause Belegar to come for your arse/tree. Offer to join peoples wars (if they're a LL that won't get demolished) to snag early deals and snowball your relationship with factions of a similar persuasion. If you need to get out of a war, beat an army to swing the balance of power, take a settlement, and offer to sell it back for peace and NAP etc (won't always work). And be proactive. People can't declare war on you if they're already dead.
>>521421676Why did it take GW 40 years to figure out Chaos should have more variations than just colour?
>>521451204They always did, it's just GW used to pretend they were a wargame miniature company rather than a "collectible sculpture" company.
>>521433643During 6th edition DE melee lords were called Highborn and melee heroes were called Noble. City Garrison is an variant of 6th edition DE army with a special rule (Garrison Formation) and some restrictions like the limited roster or flying mounts for melee characters. City Commander is basically Highborn but without the option to buy a Dark Pegasus, a Manticore or a Black DragonAlso during the 6th edition the baseline core unit was called Dark Elf Warriors. It had a hand weapon and a spear and you could decide which one you're using at any certain time. They also had an option to replace their spears for repeater crossbows. Then the 7th edition made Dark Elf Warriors and Dark Elf Repeater Crossbowmen a separate units. Then the 8th edition renamed them into Dreadspears and Darkshards while also adding a version without spear/xbow called Bleakswords. City Guard in this army list is just a mixed unit of Dreadspears and Darkshards. Sure it may be more versatile then regular units, but I feel like it's utterly pointless. It doesn't have any different models or anything.Using a City Garrison as a base for new stuff for Delfs is really scrapping the barrel.
>>521451204because profit margins
>>521451204>Can produce 1 warrior that you can sell to players of 5 different armies>Can produce 5 warriors that sell to players of 1 kind of armyThat's why
>>521451204Green / blue / red / Pink generic WoC are superior in all points to whatever the second row is.
>>521451204I miss the old nurglewhen before 'rot' didnt just mean tentacles and antlers
I think ogres are bugged or something the eat captives replenishment option post battle is always at 1% no matter how many people i capture can anyone confirm?
Whats a good faction to play if I want to conquer literally all 272 settlements in the game? Thematicallt I mean, Im willing to try it as any race gameplay wise I just want it to fit thematically
>>521417363proto aos design, just like the rest of 8th edition and end times cancer
>>521453032
>>521452203Not a valid explanation. All units would be picrel otherwise.
>>521453032Skarbrand/Any beastmen they just wanna blow everything up and kill
>>521453032Settra, Archaon, Be'lakor
>>521451204they couldn't afford it
>>521453349wyeah, but that doesnt sell, retard. are really this stupid that you understand that in order to sell something it has to appeal to consumers, basic marketing 101; you make something is relatively cheap to prototype, and produce that grabs the bare amount of attention from your audience for as long as possible and maybe you throw them a bone every so often
>>521453032>ThematicallyWoC, DoC, BoC, Skaven, Manfred, Kemmler, Settra, Malekith (but you have to grab Ulthuan first), Drycha.
>>521453032I vote DE. Having a black ark invading every theatre at the same time is good fun, they do love their slaves.
AZAZEL? THATS A JEW NAME
What do I do now /twg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j7HaA67ypU
>>521456715You know what to do
"Heavy Infantry"
>Abhorash gets Daniel mechanicsepic
>>521417363It hadn't reached AoS levels of WTFness yet
According to reddit, the AI is even less aggressive in the beta. Is this true?
>>521457435Is the mod any good?
>>521451204Anon you realize those models on the top are all undivided? They literally have the symbol on the shield. The whole point was that there was just a handful of truly chosen warriors that represented singular gods like Sigvald.
>>521458715Its very good for a custom faction mod, lots of unique mechanicsAs for fun, it depends how much you like the idea of a small number of super elite vampires slaughtering stuff in melee
>>521457075Rome is a clown game. You should never think too much about what is going on in it.
>>521457075Blue War paint gives them physical resist
>>521458926Neferatata's revenge also has that with Lhamian handmaidens
>>521457458I get the intended expression but he looks like he's yawning or about to sneeze
fastest way to rush T5 capital as empire? talking about NulnShould I upgrade the minor settlements to a certain point, or leave them at T1 and have Fields everywhere
With ToW getting new named lords for HE and TK, what are the chances that CA will add them to the wh3?
>playing as Beastieboys>Wipe out Nuln>Franz and the Dwarfs just fill in the space>Franz and Thorgrimm are number 1 and 2 power
So guys.I started a Gelt campaign and did all his intro stuff in Cathay before choosing to return to the old world. I decided to make as my new base of operations, Couronne. Unfortunately, this meant I had to evict some angry French dudes and straight after that some vikings and a daemon prince is sailing my way.
Ambush battles are so satisfyingAlso Ulrika gets absolutely shit on by most units
>>521460751>cheatsAnyway, Ulrika is only good as a mage, her melee and archer tree sucks ass,technically she can be a duelist but only on high levels
Empire babies complaining about electors going poof ruined this ai beta, it doesn't feel much different from not using it in the first place. It sucks shit.
>>521460945Yeah it's helpful to have her as a wizard in a dwarf army desu
>>521461265Philipp Schmierhans Hausengrau, the Elector Count of Oberunterfluss, died turn 3, my campaign is ruined…
Are recasts a meme?I want to paint some units from the game but I don't want to pay GW prices
I feel like it's quite flavourful to condfed Grimm Burlokson as Malakai's faction, given he's another famous dwarf engineerHe's only going to give me one region, probably Zhufbar, and a confederation public order penalty, but I want to get him before he's gone>inb4 "Cheats"
What do I pick?Is burning head good?What about the pendulum?
>>521461594my main dmg dealer is the blue missiles. Do remember kairos gains a LOT of spell intensity so some spells like glean magic become insanely good. Same for the grey ones that deals direct dmg
finished my ogre campaign skrag is absolutely ridiculous holy shit the rework did him well desu
>>521460751>>521460945Best as a wizard, terrible in melee but she can be useful if the enemy lord or hero or any large units are pinned down by your other units and she can take pot shots at them.
>>521461647Do you mean this one?Might give it a try instead of the cone spellI find a lot of overlap between the blue missile and the cone, if they are blobbed the missile is very good anyway
>>521461265Whenever something gets nerfed it is the fault of Empire players.
>>521461830indeed it's direct damage, reduces speed and its overcast is simply an extended range. super quick to cast and proc tzench cd reduction passive. At the end when you have 3 elemental wind mastery user on your kairos team it rapes ennemies. The missile is your bread and butter but the grey is a neat addition since it's unavoidable.
>>521461908>>521461265>>521461461QRD on how the beta is going?I've been ignoring it until it makes its way to the main game
If Sigmar's so powerful why couldn't he save a single man?
>>521462156because nowadays it's rare to have an asshole that loves being one it always has to be MUH SAD AND MISSUNDERSTOOD. That's why the beastmen or skavens are fun
>>521462383So Sigmar is a asshole then?
>>521462156Why should he
>>521456715What cheat
>>521462787Because if he had simply responded to Archaon when he was begging for any sign at all that he's actually there, then he probably wouldn't have gone in on Chaos and killed so many of Sigmars people.
>>521462787Because the man in question dedicated his life to fighting chaos in Sigmars name and in the moment of his greatest need Sigmar turned his back on him allowing his souls to be taken by chaos. If he can save a schmuck like Karl(who never fought chaos in his life) why couldn't he do it for him?
a crumb of historical news?
>>521463024Play Dynasties. It's iron age sequel is in the works
>>521462876I think it's The Elven Court or however it's called. The Tower of Zharr one.
I thought they said they fixed the issue with ranged units not shooting, it still fucking sucks.
Is this specifically a trait against Daniel's faction, or against all daemonic factions in general?
>>521463163You are not meant to play huge battles in Total War, this bug is fine.
>>521463163play beastmemes
>>521463640
What happens if I "transfer settlement" as Tzeentch and I give a Bretonnian settlement to someone like Legion of Chaosit's quite cheap but will they just immediately lose it? or will they recruit there and defend it?I want to see what happens
>>521413174Craig Sechler.Because he voiced Mannimarco in oblivion and I want people to seethe like they did about that.
>>521462096Among other things, it's given certain Empire minors and a few other factions immunity to the LL faction autoresolve bullshit so they don't get instantly deleted. Keeps them around longer. Vlad also gets completely fucked now too because he can no longer roll over Stirland and Averland to give himself some chance versus the Nuln's autoresolve advantage. Vampires really need a fix.
>>521463013Because Archaon is a loser who needed to be put on his place.
>>521462383Good news, TOW will be bringing back based Asavar Kul. He ain't no whiny southlander. Pure Kurgen.
>>521463939>Archaon is a loserBut he won? Sigmar lost everything and has to play with tin cans and pretend they are his lost people.
boys we eating good tonight
>>521464151>T chaos cultist
>>521464151He got his shit kicked in by Grimgor. It's like Abaddon. No matter how hard GWs try to retcon him into being cool and successful, we all know that he is a loser deep down.
>>521464213SoC isn't canon.
>>521464290Exactly my point. Chaos, and by extension Archaon, got beat so badly because they're played by a bunch of kids that GW had to hide it away in shame. Same deal with Abaddon. Hurr durr the 13 Black Crusaders weren't actually failures, it was just as planned.
>>521462931>>521463013Why are mortal naked apes entitled to anything from supposed divine beings? Why should a deity lift a finger for a hairless ape? Expecting a deity to be beholden to mortal conceptions of niceness is stupid
HOLY CRAP I just found this obscure elf who exists as a single paragraph of text! This deep lore will make for great DLC and definitely beats any OC that could be made instead!
We need Finubarb dlc.The true PhoenixKANG
>>521464427Based human life has bo value and deserves no love from anything.Humans both irl and fiction just shit up everything. If there is any god or whatever it should hate us
>>521464527Dreadfleet time.
What's the comfiest legendary lord/army?For me it's belegar ranger stack with tankards on all my heroes
>>521464725Life Archmage.Noble.Spearmen.Archers.Home...
>>521464725>Ancient Tree Man>Bunch of Tree Men>Some WaywatchersJust going for a stroll in the woods.
>>521464427Because said deity was originally one of those hairless apes. And in both forms, both mortal and deity Sigmar's defining character was that he wanted humanity to survive the harsh world they live in, so it's not really a matter of outsiders thinking how deities should behave, it was how he felt. And he failed his people that he was trying to protect.
>>521464427BASED DruchiiCHAD know the real value of humans.
>>521464725GolfagA hoard of various maneaters2 lead belchers----------------------------------------------Ikit Claw1 Clan Pestilence mage2 warpcanons6 Jezzails8 Rattling guns
I FINALLY FIXED THAT PIECE OF SHIT QUEST BUG. Turns out for some people you need to keep the game files on the C: drive where the saves are also located.
>>521464725MalakaiAlready start off with Gotrek and Felix. Can get Ulrika later. Just going around in your blimp and making copters to rain fire on the enemy OR make an army of Slayers to charge in and either kill or die gloriously.
>>521465052>Because said deity was originally one of those hairless apesAnd? He's not now. He rose above the worthless masses.>And in both forms, both mortal and deity Sigmar's defining character was that he wanted humanity to survive the harsh world they live inThen he shouldn't baby them, let natural selection take place and weed out weakness, let them evolve>And he failed his people that he was trying to protect.They failed rising up to the ubermensch that he rose up toThe weaklimg will always envy the strong and think the strong is entitled to help him
>>521465918But that's not how he feels so it matters not to him. When the world did go kaboom, his thoughts weren't "oh well, they all deserved it for being weak". He was pretty distraught that he failed, to say the least.
>>521410831what are going to be the other 2 factions in the upcoming dlc?when will they announce them officially?
>>521462931Archaon was weak, there was no reason to help himHe would only ask for more if you do
>>521466073>But that's not how he feelsIrrelevant, his feelings are remaining weakness that he should shedSigmar still has the naked ape weakling mind taint, but he acted correctly in not helping them, he overcame his weakness
>>521466192And I'm sure if you said that to his face he'd backhand you.
>>521466112Dark Elves and High Elves hopefully.
>>521466346Or he would realize that I am correct and that the average naked ape is worthless garbage, that very few rise above and the species doesn't deserve to be cares for
>>521466501Well Nagash tried a similar persuasion with him. Didn't end too well.
>>521466535doesn't the lore say Neferata already controls the empire from the shadows
>>521466575Nagash was weak
>>521466535>neferata>not black
>>521466723And I really doubt you'd be much stronger.
>>521466765>Based on Nefertiti, The female pharaoh who's tied to Macedonia aka Greece>Is a vampire making your skin turn an even paler whitenot surprising she's not a nigger,
>>521466603The lore says whatever makes the army book it's in look coolest
>>521466945Her hat looks stupid.
>>521466723witness true power when>>521466973nah I believe her she's a credible source and it's funny seeing her rage at the Carsteins trying to pry it from her
>>521466945What's her deal? just some power hungry lady who is sad her cousin hates her?
>>521467048Basically.
If anyone wants to stop the Empire from steamrolling the map, this mod works pretty wellhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2837648907&searchtext=better+militaryIt's turn 15, Vlad is killing Stirland who only has 1 settlement left, Festus is pushing outwards and the breastmen seem to be still alive
>>521466535what mod
>>521466603The Lahmians control the empireNeferata is kinda... sulking in the mountains. Sad she's lost her brother and cousin hate her.>>521467019Yeah... it does.>>521467048>Was the daughter of the priest-king of Lahmia>Wanted to join Mortuary Cult like her father>Was told she wasn't allowed to because she's a girl>Was groomed by W'soran into being an ally to Nagash >Makes the (flawed) Elixer of Life, sharing it with W'soran (the first Necrarch), Abhorash (Her guard captain and lover), Mahtmasi (a corrupt judge), Harakhte (a Vizier who fled to Cathay), and Ushoran (her brother, who stole it and became the first Strigoi)>Assists Nagash in trying to take over Nehekara>Leaves when she realizes he cares as much for the vampires as he does for the mindless skeletons and zombies>Settles in a Dwarf Hold after being kicked out of Lhamia by her cousin>Grumps Moodyly
What are you supposed to do in this situation?It happens all the time especially in the early game and I don't have a good solution.Do you just attack?Do you back off so they can leave the settlement, even if you lose the minor one?Do you go into ambush and wait 2-3 turns until it works?
>>521467478https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3026331073
>>521467840attack the one outside of the settlement.If they run, it's weaker to take.If they stand and fight, you kill them anyway.
>Let's just have units break and rally 4 times rather than shatter and run away. That'll be funCan't believe they never patched this shit out like they did with 3K.
>>521467763>Sad she's lost her brotherDidn't her brother make a way better vampire kingdom and she destroyed it out of jealousy?
>>521467141>>521467763Thanks. Thought vlad was trying to bone her for the elixir?
>>521467942Do you think it's better to fight in the field? I'd probably prefer a siege so Kairos can do a lot of work
>>521467840Send the small army to siege the city. Attack the one outside with Kairos. It will flee, then 2v1 the settlement. Otherwise ambush with kairos and bait with the other army.
>>521467972Yes.However he did it AFTER she beat the shit out of him for stealing a sip of the Elixer>>521468003He was, and did. Vashanesh got the elixer and is now the true emperor.He also sired Luthor Harkon (probably, he fits the Von Carstein feel more than the others) and Nyklaus von Carstein (count Noctilus).
Why do people ship Neferata and Khalida?
>>521468645incest = hotwomen = hotwomen committing incest = really hot
>>521468645TK have so underdeveloped and underwhelming lore that there is literally nothing else left than write fanfiction.
>>521468926theres also felix's not-gf
>>521468645It's kind of canon, since Neferata was wet for Khalida.
>>521468808It's incredibly gay though.
>souldrains youYour response?
>>521468926That's every faction
>>521464725Karl FranzA Priest, Wizard and EngineerCarroburg Greatswords with some Halberdiers on the Flanks3 Handgunners (later Ironsides)4 Reiksguard and 2 Outriders at the flanksCannons and Hellstorms behind-Gorbad IronclawRiver Troll Hag and Night Gobbo BossFrontline of River Trolls and Nasty SkulkersOrc Arrer BoyzSpiders of various types to round it out-Queek HeadtakerChieftain (renamed to Ska Bloodtail), Warlock and PackmasterCrapload of Stormvermin2 Plagueclaw Catapults2 Ratling Guns, Jezzails and MortarsBrood Horrors for the flanks-And what >>521465676 said of Golgfag + plus Mournfang/Crushers.Also just remembered I meant to give Snikch another try one of these days, anyone got any tips in regard to army comp and how much should I be spamming schemes?
>>521469213There's not much to drain in the first place.
Which Lizardmaniii faction gives the most buffs.
>>521469213>*nothing changes*
>>521469236>Karl Franz>A Priest, Wizard and Engineer>Carroburg Greatswords with some Halberdiers on the Flanks>3 Handgunners (later Ironsides)>4 Reiksguard and 2 Outriders at the flanks>Cannons and Hellstorms behindBased list. If only the AI would do that rather than spam DemiGryphs, Outriders and Hellstorms
>>521469232Wrong, relevant factions have book series. WoC, Empire, High/Dark elves, Vampire Counts etc.
>>521467849>augustdead mod
>>521469418yeah dogshit books
>>521468645Something that annoys the shit out of me:>Neferata fell in love with Arkhan.>Neferata fell in love with Vashanesh/Vlad.>Neferata groomed and fell for Alcadizaar and that was the single most devastating failed relationship for her.>Neferata is said to particularly like taking knights from the Empire and Bretonnia as her favorite lovers.>Neferata just had like one encounter with Khalida past their childhood and it was to kill each other, with just implications that Neferata was a bit *too* sad about it and she might have been horny for Khalida.>Neferata being a lesbo is what everyone fucking focuses on about because of this not-even-explicit implication, instead of 80% of her love life being about men.Come the fuck on.It does crack me up too how despite presenting herself as the seductress supreme, Neferata just seems to fall in genuine love all the time.
>>521469392Yeah ngl it always becomes a pain in the ass when the AI starts just spamming one type of endgame troop because then these balanced army comps that are my favorite tend to get overwhelmed. But I just stick to my guns because my favorite part of running an army is to have it LOOK and feel like a well regimented and multilayered army.
>>521469213Sqvire hit her on ze head with ze mordhau grip maneuver
>>521469213
>>521470020just so you know, i now own an illegitimate copy of that pepe which you've just posted
>>521469213could you do it again please?
>>521470272https://youtu.be/2-a_-XhTenE?si=rLF_BSvF34bQ83iG
Lizard economy fucking sucks...
>>521470775Just print more lizards lol
>>521470382When is that Oblivion remake coming out again?
>>521469559Coomers are retarded let it be.
Wish we had something like this in Skaven cities during sieges. Skaven gatehouses could shoot warp-fire at enemy units passing underneath and there could be rat ogre deployables to block roads in cities.https://www.honga.net/totalwar/warhammer2/building.php?l=en&v=warhammer2&f=wh2_main_skv_skaven_qb1&b=wh2_main_skv_defence_major_1>Covert Chokepoints>Should the things invade, devious tunnel design forces them to chokepoints, where Warp-fire emplacements scorch the intruders to death.https://www.honga.net/totalwar/warhammer2/building.php?l=en&v=warhammer2&f=wh2_main_skv_skaven_qb1&b=wh2_main_skv_defence_major_3>Chained Sentry Beasts>Clan Moulder-rejected Rat Ogres and others are conscripted and chained to key defensive junctions and outposts - their handlers unleashing them at trespassers.
>>521469213My soul is protected from drainage by harlots
So it's painfully obvious that in order to prevent the fire at will bug from happening, they lowered the priority for the movement and attack orders because now they're dropping all the time. Fucking hell CA, just reduce the rate at which the AI gives commands and fix this shit already.
>>5214721722 weeksTrust the plan
giving armor piercing to anything but cannons and single entities was a massive mistake
>>521472172Don't care vanilla game is fun enough.
>>521472793There is literally no protection from this spell.
>>521473316I cast "gay"
>>521472891nuh uh! our AI vill fry your CPU and you vill be happy!
>>521473371We aren't talking about you.
>>521472891kek im glad to see the 20 year old bug still hasnt been looked at by someone who knows what the bug even is
>>521472735Imagine how many patches that will be needed to fix the bugs.
>>521464427>>521464603Jesus loves you"16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him." John 3:16-1728 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30
>>521415781>Empire.heavens just because for empire they give the army additional movement range in their unique lineextremely powerful
>>521474138Sigmar isn't as swell of a guy as JC though...
>>521445720dawi zharr create situations where massive inflows of the population go to the empiredawi within the empire insist they accept them no matter the cost
Grail rat ogres
Once I have access to Chaos Warriors (and later Chosen) should I recruit pink horrors as Kairos?I feel like if my front line is solid I can just use Kairos to do the killing.Maybe the flying Changebringers when I get to Tier 4 instead? I don't have access to them yet
Can someone remind me the name of the mod that adds the chaos god's specialitation to wargors. Doing a fun beastmen campaign but the generic skilltrees lack fun. >>521476418as kairos I rush the tech that gives arcane mirth for all horrors (+20 power recharge when not in melee) then recruit a shit ton of pinks because they have a lot of ammo and can hold their owns in melee. Keep 5 chaos warriors for the frontline
>>521476418Don't you get a tech that gives you insane spell intensity for every horror in your army?
>>521477028>>521477016It's not intensity it's rechargeI should get that, I went for Forced Peace first and got it just in time as the skink invaded my homeland
>>521477395I tend to sell the goldmine region to slaneesh, rape teclis to death then break the NAP with slanesh to kill xir. then go find the skink. For me mirth is the top prio because your entire campain relies on your lord or heroes shitting out spells. Also praise be for the tzeench altar for cultists.
So are pistoliers trash? i bought a bunch of them and noticed that they don't shoot all that well
>>521476418Kairos should be running Chaos Warrior frontline with Pink Horror backline with Chaos Knights and Flamers on the flanks.
>>521411610If they include all bloodlines yes
>>521477738theyre ok in the early game when you cant get anything better but i wouldnt recruit them past turn 20
>>521411610As OoD proved? No
I'm playing a Wurrzag campaign and I have 2 giants in my army.Of the choices of scrap upgrades for giants gives an anti-infantry bonus. Is it worth it? I've not used giants much before now but it feels like giants aren't that great at dealing with infantry, plus I'm mainly using giants to whack enemy lords and heroes as they seem pretty good at it and I don't have any other heroes in my main army that could do that.
>>521478568its worth getting eventually now that you can get all the scrap upgrades, but the giant doesn't really need any more killing power they are already top-tier damage dealers vs high-value targets
>>521456715rove can brome, bros
>>521477952actually nevermind, i kited a huge orc army into defeat, seems they are not so useless after all
How do most people play TWW3? Single player or multiplayer online?
>>521480676singleplayer I presume.I sometimes play a campaign online with friends
>>521478568they arent, giants only hit 7 targets, meaning each target only takes 100, but realistically 85 damage after armor when the damage spread is this high, anti anything is not useful in doing damage, its only useful for hitting targets, but giant has 65 matk so you dont need it.
>>521463189I'm positive it would be Dannboy only since each monogod gets its own trait
>>521473316My soul was given to my wife. Neferata cannot drain my soul when it is safe in another universe.
>>521477738Never use them myself. They don't do diddly. They're decent at the role of "hounds" aka chasing fleeing enemies so they don't come back, but in any actual serious combat situation, they fold against everything and anything. Better wait for Outriders if you want missile cav.
>>521472891No!The AI will give out 23459072345i8243895823490865234985612349853848592348564098347659834756823475689345786 orders per second and your orders will be canceled to make room!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHATHE ORDER DROP BUG CAN BE EXPLOITED NOW>AI knows to use its fliers to attack any unprotected ranged and artillery units>AI considers artillery SEMs to fall under that category and will send its fliers to attack them (tanks, dinos, etc)>just wiggle the unit or a protective spear unit in and out of range until the AI has its OWN orders dropped and it flies right into your counter>AI engages>shit like longma get stuck and cant take off>rest of the longma unit circles back to reengage HOW DO YOU LIKE ITHOW DO YOU LIKE IT YOU FAGGY ASS PIECE OF SHITFUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
There's something off about the newest versions, I've never seen AI drop "this many" commands. I'm talking both 6.1.2 and the AI beta, I can tell my infantry to follow the archers, but they will suddenly stop for no reason. TCALBULGE FIX THIS
I'm liking this cheat
>>521482592CHAAARGE!!
>>521482592Those hammerers are earning their pay.
so now that the AI beta 2.0 failed bigly, whats next for 'hammy 3?
>>521476418I recruited some chaos warriors with halberds and went against slaaneshit did not go well (for they/them)
>>521483141Its clear CA's strategy of firing all the chuddies that knew how the engine worked has resulted in good things, so the next thing is The Future Of Total War
GET FUCKEDGod, it's fucking annoying getting rid of this pest.
I think I've enabled the Order Tide, maybe I should have used another cheat to boost chaos and destruction
Grail war hydras
>>521481889fucking kekday of the delete key has come you AI fucking shits
>Nakai is older than Kroq GarSo do Kroxigors live forever like Saurus and Slann and its just skinks that can die of old age? I know Oxy isn't actually 5000 years old, he likely only spent 50 years in the warp
>>521485165My dude.Nakai is older than Mazdamundi.
>>521485165Lore wise only Saurus and Slann live forever, no lifespan for others lizards
>>521485637>>521485896Going to guess first spawnings just have a special eternal life trait then and that no first spawn skinks survived
>>521486103There's no explanation given just how like there's no explanation for how Nakai somehow knows when a dire, pitched battle is about to happen yet he shows up. He's just special.
>>521478568I dont remember the scrap bonus off the top of my head, but lets assume it is 15. Melee Lords and heroes typically have at least 40 MD, giant has around 65 MA if I recall correctly. That means 60% chance to hit. +15 MA means hit chance is now 75%, or a 25% damage increase. That is pretty damn substantial. If enemy has higher MD, its even better. Assume 65 MD. Your hit chance bumps from 35% to 50%, about 40% increase. It is definitely worth it if its +15.
>>521486275I'M SPECIAL
MOBI LIES STRATE GIES
>>521486387Why do the goblins say this? Are they "special"?
>send skirmish unit to run down fleeing enemies>check on it>its done 0 damage because the attack wind up time is enough time for the fleeing unit to get out of range again
>>521481386For fuck's sake, I've nearly destroyed him
>>521487205Night goblins are quite unique as far as greenskins go. They have human level intelligence which is special for a fungus.
>>521487541buy dogs
Would you rather have:>entire army get flaming and magical attacks (its wh3 so much of your army has magical attacks already, seriously, phys res is useless in this game)>entire army gets 200 barrier per unit and 20% less time to start recharge
How's the beta going anons?
How's the anon going betas?
>>521487541sorry bro, next time play as AI so your units will actually do things
>>521487990flaming + magical is better. Get a fire mage and spam fireballs for passive and deal 20% more damage armywide.You are fucked if you go against Chorfs and HEs tho.
>>521487990>200 barrier>pic relFire attacks because there's so many regen units now.
How is Snikitch?Never played him
I really like how cathay maps give you a way to ambush the AI on the fly. Guessing they were designed with chaos in mind.
>>521489213Couldn't have gone better
>half my army has stalk in a siege battle>AI keeps half its army its forces at the key point See that's actually neat, it took a preventative measure instead of just going "I see your unit and am putting units over by them as a coincidence.
>>521482592This is what I'm hoping Dogs of War is like. A faction made up of a myriad of units from various Order and Neutral races as well as units from looked over factions that probably wont get in the game.
>>521488969He is an acquired taste. Watch a playthrough before playing.
Teach you to get cheeky
Why do these things have to be so fucking loud
>>521490554Play a different faction.Use a different unit.
What a dogshit spell, makes fireball look great.
>>521491491Put 2 points into it and overcast. that spell is fucking amazing.
I'd marry a Carroburg ngl senpai no homo.Might take out the Outriders though, I find they're not really doing jackshit in most battles. I wanted a slightly more mobile force but really I just use Karl in cases where I need a quick response unit.
>>521491784>That one liner.Corny af but I dig it.
>>521491379No.
>>521463013>(who never fought chaos in his life)U WOT M8?!
>>521462156Because the Chaos Gods imprisoned him to stop him from saving Archaon. It's part of the whole tragedy, they convinced Archaon that it was an inevitable prophecy and that circumstances would always bring Archaon towards his fate, but in truth it was always Be'lakor and the gods just forcing it to happen.>>521463013>a schmuck like Karl(who never fought chaos in his life)Bruh what the fuck do you mean. Karl was fighting off Chaos raiders and beastmen even before his father died.
>>521474138You can love someone and still be fucking pissed at them. You should read the prophets of Ezekiel or Isaiah. He is the father, not the sugar daddy.
Why are those regions on the bottom right empty?Can I colonize them? I'd have to sail a few turns to get there I guess
Name a race/faction besides coast that isn't extremely easy and never becomes extremely easy
>>521492889They were added last year, I think. They probably exist to make more room for future DLCs. Sadly I doubt they are going to add Khuresh or Ind as actual factions, they will probably just be the starting locations for LLs for the factions that will get DLCs.
did chaos dwarfs also get deeps?
This is what happens to elgi fucking shits
>>521493504No
>>521493504>My nuke faction is overpowered in battle, but does it have the "do absolutely nothing and increase income" building? No? Well that's a problem.
Stinky
>>521491601I don't think i've ever bothered upgrading it before, you're right it's so much better.
today I learnt you can't add beast most foul mid-campaign
>>521494526why did they paint him greencamouflage?
>>521493050Daemons of Chaos
>>521496080isnt that mod outdated anyways?
>>521497297started a new campaign and it seems to work
>>521484124>Empire and Dwarfs dominatingLooks like a normal campaign to me.
Dzam this guy can kill a lot of chaff
>>521497485sartosans are worse than skavenslaves
>Force Peace has 3 turns cooldown>AI waits 10 turns to declare war againThis thing is Busted
>>521487205They're extra speshul
>>521498809this makes leddit scream and shit their pants...
>>521498729Also - Kairos economy is surprisingly strong, even disregarding sacking and loot bonuses. Just his own building income is very good if winds of magic are in your favour and 100 corruption skews the odds anyway.
Any Alien Isolation news?
kino race pairing with lizardmen?
>>521498809
what's the most based and 4chan faction? and which one is the most cringe and reddit faction?asking so i know what to play and not to play
No armies should ever have more than 2 heroes
>>521500013>most basedGreenskins>most cringeSkaven/Empire.
>>521499489For a co-op campaign?Maybe Thorek and KroqDwarfs don't have to go wide now with deeps, he can just hold the mountains.I haven't played co-op in years not sure if there are any new features. I always wished they would allow each player to embed some of their units into the other players' army, like a Waagh that costs upkeep. So that you always have some units to control in fights. Doesn't have to be a full stack, just a few would be fun.
>>521500013dark elves are basedempire is cringe
>>521500013ChorfsEmpire
>We are Sigmar's ass>By Ulric's taint, retreat>For FranceWhy dem Empire niggas so zesty?
>>521498729>cheats are overpowered
>>521500903is Kairos a DLC faction?I thought he's base game so not overpowered
>>521500993TW3 is DLC.
>>521501065Ok I recently played Thorgrim who is base game (WH1 non-DLC) and I was making 250,000 per turn by turn 60, with free buildings, free upkeep, multiple level ups per fight and a talisman of preservation dropping almost guaranteed every turn.
>>521485896Kroxigors are ageless too. Only skinks are cucked with aging
>>521501386this has gay scalie written all over it. The artist is some degenerate isn't he?
>>521501386>Kroxigors wish their skink friends would live longer
>>521501448>1609243393.izrez_kroxigor_safe.png
>>521501326How do you get so good at the game that you ruin it
I need help /twg/. Do I playKairos for the first timeChangeling for the first timeWurrzag for the 3256984th time
>>521502291I iz powaful
Out of curiosity, anyone here plays Three Kingdoms? What is your favourite general line-up for multiplayer? I briefly fucked around and I got dizzy because every option sounded good. Like, a strategist (blue guy) will massively buff infantry, so if you rely on pikemen, swordsmen or axemen, you want one, but maybe infantry isn't really good since ranged units are so strong, but...
>>521502594you make a persuasive argument anon, wurrzag it is
>>521502623>3K>MPI'm afraid you're going to have to ask that one on the Chinese Steam forums.
fucking ratfagsthey sent 3 armies ( one being led by queek) and ambushed my solo lvl 1 sorcerertalk about excessive
Is this a mod thing or a WH1 textures being shit thing? I'm not running any texture or model mods to my knowledge
>>521502740Mork wills it
>>521492263>>521492681>anon thinks cultists is the same as actual daemonic chaos
i hate these fucking faggots so much
>>521503237You shame Hashut by being bested by fucking r*ts of al lthings
>>521503150Neither do you then, because Archaon never did either.
And another thing?yerugleh
>>521505256
>>521501386Don't lewd Boxigors you degenerate.
I've been thinking, TW:AoS would be the biggest nothingburger they could make. Basically Pharaoh of Fantasy, essentially a TW:W4. Most of the existing factions and units would just be reskinned and rearranged, some even simply ported 1:1. The most lazy and boring option possible. If they were honest, it would be SAGA title at best, but even then, it would be so damn disappointing. Everyone is so fucking bored of TWW already, literally any other fantasy/space fantasy option would be more interesting, even if to see it crash and burn.This also makes me think CA might do it, they are retarded enough to not make Medieval game for 20 years after all.
>>521506280>Everyone is so fucking bored of TWW already,Love retards who say some stupid shit that's blatantly not the majority opinion as if they were speaking for everyone.Anyway, AOS would suck because it has nothing to do with WFB and it's map would just be the current chaos realms ones but to infinity.
>severely weaken vampire counts>orcs start invading
>CLANG CLANGHEAR YE, HEAR YE>CLANG CLANGBY DECREE OF THE ANTI-CHEAT KING,"MODIFCATIONS OF TCAL(oTUK(winlE))oSCoSSHIoJotUNoEoSotOAotMWotLCotVSC'S TOTAL WAR: WARHAMMER, TOTAL WAR: WARHAMMER JUNIOR, AND TOTAL WAR: WARHAMMER THE THIRD TITLES ARE TO BE NO LONGER CALLED OUT EXPLICITLY AS CHEATING. THE TITLES THEMSELVES ARE TO BE REFERRED TO AS CHEATING, BY THE KING'S DECREE THAT MEDIEVAL 3 WILL NOT CONTAIN WOOLY MAMMOTHS.ALL WHO REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THESE TITLES ARE UNFAIR SPORTSMANSHIP AGAINST COMPUTER HEATHENRY ARE TO BE SENTENCED TO NO LESS THAN 6 MONTHS SERVITUDE IN CAMPAIGNS OF TOTAL WAR: ROME THE SECOND.">CLANG CLANGAUTOSAVE THE KING!>CLANG CLANG
>>521506589modding my game rn :3
>>521506530It's true tho, TWW is boring, everyone has enough of it already
>>521502914Some textures just look like absolute dogshit in the character screen if you don't play on ultra textures, they look fine ingame though, just another thing that modders will have to fix
>>521506589>Medieval 3 will not contain wooly mammoths.It's over...Mammoths don't walk the earth, life has no meaning...
vampire lords an heroes should have at least 80 speed on foot desu
>>521507353Only if they were to embrace their Morbin powers.
>>521506589I shall continue to >cheats post because it's been years and it's still funny every single time.
>>521507353Each individual Blood Knight in a unit of Blood Knights should have as much health as a lord or hero.
Why does everything in DAC have stupidly high morale? Even if you're not playing on VH battles every nigger unit only reaches "shaken" when they're at like 5 units left out of 200 and with a dead general and flanked on all sides. This is just obnoxious.
>>521464527> exists as a single paragraph of text!Ghorstsisters ... /twg/ is mocking us again ...
>>521508317Have you tried playing an actually good TW instead of slapping the band aid that is DAC on one of the shittiest TW games ever?
>>521507763He said you're supposed to refer to all WH posts as >cheats
>>521508487Have you tried being a good person?
>>521508785No. I am filled with hatred and malice and everyone around me must suffer.
>>521508931stop being gay and malus wont be inside you anymore
I am so fucking mad. Finally got to sit down and play TWW3 and...CRASHCRASH CRASH CRASH! FUCKING CRASHES!Was looking forward to testing units but 2 seconds when the characters or units engage it freezes. Id say I got 3 complete instances of 40 tries. SO PISSED OFF!On another note, bit weird vanilla Chaos Lord beats Orc Warboss but the Khorne lord chokes. Regular Bloodletters put up a decent fight vs Blorcs but Exalted shred.Lance Chaos Knights start strong but melt.Still why does TWW3 keep crashing?
>>521501326AND cheats
>>521508317I do not remember this being an issue when I played it. Elves and Dwarfs were harder to rout and defeat tho
It ISN'T (((DAC))).It's DEI(Divide et Impera).Fucking SWINE.
>>521509563idk about that but THANX 4 the superchat 'preciate it
>>521509795No problem.
>>521509691>literally playing with globohomo modsDo histoids really?
>>521509691DAC is the lotr med 2 mod.
>>521507353Slavs need vodka, Kislev should have a mechanic that gives you better boons the more vodka production and distribution you have (reskin chorf industrial mechanic)Humans need food, Empire (and only Empire, not Kislev, Bretonnia, or Cathay) should have a food logistics mechanic that punishes you for not keeping your armies fed on top of not keeping them paidElves are natural magic users, they should have access to a mechanic that increases spell power and wind reserves as they fill out their tech trees and build up settlementsUntamed winds can cause unhaptic feedback, Empire wizards should have a 50% chance to turn into a doomrocket explosion every spell they cast, not just overcastDwarf crafting is unparalleled, their armor should be boosted or offer an innate ward save to reflect thatUmgi crafting is shoddy, their armor should be halved across the board, especially steam tanks which are mostly wood with a metal sheet overtop, on that note, empire war machines should have a 20% fire weaknessNorthmen have unmatched dedication to the dark gods, WoC and Norsca should get significant leadership buffs, going up as mortal chaos conquers more of the world and they revel in their mightImperials are weak willed and spineless and require alliances to survive, they should get significant leadership penalties the more the map is filled with non-allied factions
>>521508487All of the TW titles are equally bad (or equally good) because CA follows the Koei formula of "let's make every successive title do its own thing instead of actually learning anything or building on previous systems".
>>521510083Nah Rome 2 is just straight up ass and people only like it because the setting is Rome at its peak.
>>521508317the problem is that base med 2 is really damn easy once you get any unit to route cavalry will decimate it in seconds.It's a balance thing also DAC has tons of generals with supers stats pretty much every named character + the Nazgul
Holy shit these things carry Thorgrim's early campaign so hard. Refilling their ammo constantly with the Engineer while your infantry take forever to die. Feels so ridiculous
>>521510307Yeah made the fight against Skarnisk much much easier. What with bombs being able to decimate most of his army and the gun doing ton of damage against the big spöder
Total War: 1914
>>521510070From what I gather in you post, you seek a cheat that removes the Empire from the game?
>>521510473They blow those gobbos to hell so fast it's amazing. The spider too yeah. It's awesome. I got pretty lucky and found this on about turn 4 too
>CA ruined the AI again because elector cunts were somehow still dying too quicklyI hate empfags so much. Is there a single thing they didn't get nerfed due to their incompetence?
>>521510070>Northmen have unmatched dedication to the dark gods, WoC and Norsca should get significant leadership buffs, going up as mortal chaos conquers more of the world and they revel in their might
>>521512976Hearts of Iron x Warhammer Fantasy collab when?
>>521513092we were supposed to get total war: world war 2 but they pivoted
>>521510307The normal gyros are great too, only T2 and they work great against most armies except like Azhag or other strong flying lords.
>>521512874> because elector cunts were somehow still dying too quicklyHow ? They didn't touch the AI powerbalance in last patch.
>>521513767https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/1jwymne/state_of_ai_beta_20/
>>521512874Electors dying too quickly isn't even a problem though.The negative modifiers you get now don't even matter.Just means you got more fighting to do.
Does anybody actually ever get the nemesis crown? Its buffs dont seem worth traveling the world for like the sword of khaine, and even when you do get it its just temporary
>>521511093No, not removed, just nerfedEmpire is supposed to suck, its OP right now
>>521515158It's not temporary. You have to keep fighting to keep the crown. Perfect for aggressive races.
>>521515158I did a drycha run with it and it was super strong but the penalty to forest health was too high, maybe other factions fare better.
>>521515158>>521515257its a temporary buff in the sense that you can lose it, but all you have to do is fight (and win) at least 1 battle every x amount of turns and you get to keep it
>>521514090>>521514192empire was truly a mistakefirst they had to remove vlad's wardsave because they were too dumb to recruit handgunnersthen eslpeth comes out and truly makes the karl franz experience almost tyrion tier but it wasn't enoughif we get another dlc, we really will be getting those chosen (empire) units people keep memeing
>never go blue line because its gay>sail to Naggarond to get rid of Mally>60 nagarks
>>521498809bulletproof kidnapper vlad
>EMPIRE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-ACK
>>521516339chat is this real
>>521515753Vladdy wasnt the only one who got his wardsave removed though plenty of others who had plenty of it got theirs removed.
>>521516445it's real
>>521516445fake, AD 2000 brits couldnt beat up a bear
Silly Sotek implies a far more threatening Sotek that isnt silly
the empire is shit thoughtheir economy weak and can never have enough armies
>>521511942Whenever I get one of these "Locations of Interest" things spawn in my settlement its always that fucking Slaaneshi vineyard one. Almost without fail.
>>521517724It probably has the highest chance to spawn I seem to get that first almost always too.
Why does the dark elf ai love shades so much?
its funny how people are still seething 9 years later that the empire is a weak faction.What they forget is that Empire is supposed to suck while Cathay lore wise IS the strongest human faction
Redpill me on SFO. I never actually played it despite wasting my time in this general since TWW1 released, and playing Total War in general since Rome 1>inb4 radious armored slayersI mean it. Isn't this basically a rebalanced vanilla+? Does it add some actually cool, indepth, base mechanics to everyone like population, religion, internal political system etc? Say I want to play as the Empire on it, what are the benefits?
>>521518160>seetheEvery Empire player plays the game with 10 overhauls that give them a roster bigger than anyone else's while also adding the campaign mechanics of every single DLC faction.
>>521518154Who doesn't love shades?
>>521518154Because they're their best unit. You should love them too.
No one plays Cathay though.
>>521518462>>521518470I do love them and they are an amazing unit but having to put down half a dozen shade doomstacks gets annoying.
>>521518214It's just too bloated at this point. It has a lot of good things going for it, but none of the things you mentioned. General quality of life stuff to make campaigns a little better, some actual mechanics for certain lords, but a fuckton of additions and changes for the sake of changeIt's worth a try but you're better off just taking note of the things you like about it and finding mods that replicate it
Was there a new patch or something? I cannot boot up the game now, even though I had played with all of my mods yesterday. REEEEEEEEEEE
>>521518304yupthey will have 30 mods buffing the empire just so Vlad can still body them
>>521518624i play cathay
>>521518214The best thing I can say is that it's the wrong approach to TW:WH modding by virtue of being a "complete overhaul". As I was writing a long diatribe >>521518807 put it better, I know downloading 325 different mods is a pain in the ass but I can easily swap out the ones I don't like and find which is causing an issue. With stuff like SFO you have to take it all with the bits you don't like, too.
>>521518872>she didn't disable auto-updatesyou've dug yourself into this ditch
>>521519069It's kino, m'lord.
>CHADmpire still making chuds seethe daily after 200 years of total war.Yup yup
>>521518624Cathay is the third or second most played faction in the game
>>521519104I don't even have that many mods enabled, only 116
>>521519268Second I believe. Empire -> Cathay -> WoC -> Khorne -> WoC
>>521519268How many of those campaigns are miao ying wuth that loverslab mod?
>>521519268Makes sense, the only faction with more cheat mods than the Empire is Cathay.
>>521519495oh nice, i thought i was going overboard with my 74the game is surprisingly stable when compared to skyrim
>>521513273Thanks for the tip mate, I'll get some soon. What's your priority in your settlements, building wise? Do you grow out or up, how fast do you expand? Do you rush the Deeps, or building the capital up first?>>521517724I just got that the next turn lmao. Going to keep it until I get the item, stuff that in my vault for a rainy day/hard battle and then demolish the vineyard.
>>521519785meant for >>521519294>>521519495accidentally quoted you because i wanted to say i hope all of cathay users use a miao ying coomer mod
>>521519856I've never actually gotten an event from the vineyard. Whenever I've actually decided to keep it (which is rare) it never did anything. Is the item good?
>>521519492I bet dorfs are up there nowadays
>>521520082It's basically the Maoi slaneesh corruption mod, in one item. Huge power, slowly corrupts the lord/hero who uses it. But not in the same, sexy way.
>>521520082It's pretty damn good for powerlevelling a character but if you keep it equipped for too long it upgrades with better bonuses and completely obliterates your leadership stats
>>521520392Sounds like the item for Slayermanii armies then
How the fuck do people jerk off to this game? Sounds absolutely miserable.
>>521520575end turn times were long in warhammer 2
What if Eltharion and Volkmar got two gether and decided to stop being so Grim? And they didnt become Grave either so dont say that.
>Who is this sassy lost Everchosen?
>>521518872>>521519104>>521519785Ok I found the issue. Expanded Roster compilation mod had an update at last, so the sub-mod fixing issues is no longer needed. Works now EZ
>>521520575I had the same question when I arrived to this general, but in time, I've began to see the Alarielle's radiance.
Is the changeling fun? I've heard its kind of spoiled by the fact that he sort of can't lose
>>521520575Have you seen the lizardmen?
>>521521024It's fun exactly once.
>>521520760>halberdiers (shields)didnt realize stirland was filled with kryptonians that can one-hand a halberd
>>521521024The concept is fun but the executions is terrible also half his quests are bugged in some way
>>521520760coolby the way, how long does it take for you to load up the campaign map with your mods? i've become very cautious after my loading time hit like 3 minutes
Why is Archaon able to get all the Daemons of chaos RoRs as well as the WoC ones?
>>521520575t. Khorne WHOREshiper
Why does Khorne hate Slaanesh the most? Shouldn't he hate Tzeentch and Nurgle hate Slaanesh?
>>521521568>some Khorne worshippers are canonically eunuchs I'm not sure what to do with this information.
>>521519856I built normally, always oathgold building T1 and resource buildings, until things calmed down a bit and I had money to spare for Deeps.I focused entirely on civic techs, you can get the tech that unlocks all Deeps blockages around turn 40-50, that's when it makes sense to invest in them.Then just build the T2 Deeps building that reduces upkeep factionwide and the one that boosts income factionwide. It's a big upfront investment but as they get built your income begins skyrocketing. After a few turns you can afford to add more and more and it grows exponentially.
>>521521432lorelet little nigger, gtfo
>>521521131>>521521232preesh. Who is considered the funnest Tzeentch LL?
>>521521864Tzeetch and Nurgle hate each other the most because the former is about change and ambition whereas the later is about stagnation and rot.Khorne hates Slaanesh because the former is about killing for "honor" whereas the later is about killing for pleasure.
>>521522091Good job, janny.
>>521521245over 2 minutes it seemsIt does not feel that bad since I always have something on my second screen to keep me entertained in the mean time
>>521521864passion vs duty is the best way to summarize their differences
>>521522246There's not that many to choose fromJust get your hands on the blue scribes, they are the most fun unit in the game
>>521522154Big man acting like he's on /tg/
>>521522246Nigga there are two Tzeentch LLs and we just discussed one of them.
>>521518304>>521519069Why do you call me out like this
>>521522540based and overlylargerosterpilled
>>521521864Khorne and Slaanesh were conceived as an opposite dychotomy: the God of hate and the God of love.The World of Warhammer is constantly enveloped in eternal War - the strongest God of all is the Chaos God of War.But just to make sure humanity is truly fucked, with no hope of escaping, there is also a malignant deity inhabiting the depth of Peace.If for whatever reason your civilization managed to find respite from war long enough, they would start finding pleasure in more and more depraved acts.Sloth, gluttony, avarice and all sins that aren't hatred would bring back an ocean of bloodshed nonetheless.A blissful eternal peace made of depravity, torture and horror, courtesy of the youngest, weakest Chaos God.Damned if you do, damned if you don't.This is why Khorne and Slaanesh are opposite, and they were conceived together as such in their first appearance.
>>521521024I've been considering what is it about Changeling's campaign that throws me off and immediately bores me, because yes it's so fucking easy it's an actually impossible to lose campaign, but they also just released Golgfag and I actually really enjoy his playstyle of just roaming the world taking contracts and not worrying about anything but fighting and eating. And there have been incredibly easy factions in the past that still became fan favorites (looking at you, Ikit).I've concluded that the reason Changeling is tiresome isn't actually because he's easy, though that does contribute to the point, it's the fact that many of his objectives are just tedious busywork. Every time I get on his campaign and I look at "Win 15 land battles against Dwarfs" my eyes roll into the back of my skull. They're not all like that, but the majority of his mini-objectives leading up to the big prank battles are like that, and it's the exact opposite of what I'd expect Changeling to feel like doing. And to add to that, they take so long and factions are so volatile that a lot of the time you don't even get to see the result of the actually fun battles. Like you complete the Empire theatre battle and the big funny point is supposed to be that you cause all the Empire provinces to declare war on each other and start a cataclysmic civil war... except by the time you're done pursuing that battle and finally fighting it, 90% of the Empire will be in the hands of Festus or someone else like that. And that's the first theatre, all the other ones suffer from that even harder since you get there later.
>>521522540Fucking disgustingWhy would you want more content when less is always better
>>521522297>>521522405>>521522706It just seems so contrived to me, like they asspulled a reason because they had to have Tzeentch vs Nurgle due to muh change and muh stagnation (through the constant cycle of rebirth which totally isn't change). Nurgle and Slaanesh make more sense as opposites with one being about joyous nihilism and numbed despair and the other being hedonism and extreme sensation. Tzeentch makes more sense as the nemesis for Khorne as he hates magic and shit.
SLAANESH FAGS BTFO
>>521522940it doesn't help that some of the missions can just be failed if the faction in question just dies on its own, no replacementsalso for the reward rebel armies, the issue is that rebels are coded even lower potential than minor factionslike i remember the ulthuan reward where every settlement gets a demon army to spawn outside of itend the turn and you will see each of them will auto resolve themselves and die against a t1 settlementwhat's the point?
>>521451204>Emperor's Children not naked and showing deformed long tentacle dick and dicktongues
>>521523050They invented the Gods in pairs:the first book was Khorne and Slaanesh (1988), the second book was Nurgle and Tzeentch (1990).They never did a book or anything about the relationship of Nurgle and Slaanesh or Tzeentch and Khorne.
>>521523050It's not contrived, it's lore. They're all extremes a society can take:>rapid change>stagnation>decadence>bellicose
>>521523294I guess that makes sense, but I still feel that considering what the gods are now after 30 years of editions and reiterations the set rivalries seem like a holdover.
>>521523050Khorne hates magic because it's "dishonorable". Imagine him like the anons ITT who scoff at mod users, but don't tell them to fuck off either. Bloodshed caused by magic is still bloodshed, and mages are very good at mass murder, which is why Khrone doesn't consider them to be his polar opposite. Blood must flow, that's the only thing that matters.And on this note, I don't see why Nurgle isn't his main rival, given how Nurgle just turns everyone sick and mutates them over and over again, never dying.
>>521523661>catapult plague bodies into city>everyone starves and withers>less blood spilled than with a magic nukeNurgle confirmed Khorne's main rival, disease is dishonor
>>521523661The only pairing that doesn't have a reason to hate each other is Slaanesh and Tzeentch.
>>521523557Maybe.It only makes sense if you consider them as I described them I think:>>521522706The God of War and Hate and the God of Peace and Love.The truly grimdark and fucked nature of the world of Warhammer is that peace and love are inherently demonic and bring forward a tide of inescapable ruinous temptation and sin. It's a pincer move to make sure there is no escape and you may as well wage war.And it is also a reinforcement that "this is the fantasy war universe where there is war all the time".>why don't they just make peace???Because the God of War constantly pushes everyone, and also because peace would be horrible as well.Those two are part of the explanation of "why" there is so much war everywhere all the time, everywhere you look, armies armies armies.Slaanesh pushes you away from peace and Khorne pulls you towards war, they're a tag-team, the most important tag-team in the universe of Warhammer, because they justify it.
>>521523939Sniping nerds passionate about something is a valid reasonThey're ripe for corruption of carnal desire, and Slaaneshi pleasures addle the mind, wasting a potential that could have been a great schemerIn practice the two would have a huge rift in patience: tzeentch is all about those long term plans and small influences, while slaanesh is utterly wasting opportunities for immediate cashouts
I think I'll end my campaign here. I've enabled the Ordertide, and only Malekith can put up a fight, and that won't last once I break a few of his armies. Moulder is the faction that put up the biggest fight after the harsh beginning. Fun cheat.
>>521524264The positive aspects of the chaos gods got retconned into the gutter though, now they are just the evil punching bags without nuance behind their existence
>>521524587The nerds falling to Slaanesh was all part of the plan though :^)
>>521523939they're still at odds: "Should I follow a long and boring plan to be gratified 1000 years from now or just jerk off for 1000 years every day and squander eternity"?
>>521524651No, I genuinely believe peace and love are inherently demonic in Warhammer. As soon as you shake your enemy's hand and a small golden age of stability begins the Dark Prince will rear his ugly head.Slaanesh is the pitch black heart of peace, he's not positive at all.Look at the Eldar.
>>521524984"Why not both?">wanks daily for 1000 years until the ground is a smooth ice rink of dried cum>watches as the adventurer I forsaw slip and slide into a rock, crushing is nuts on it>my 1000 year sceheme complete with a laugh, I disappear and begin plotting my next
>>521524605>strength rank 50>4 out of the 5 strongest powers are order>I'm going to end the campaign hereAverage Empire player.
Sex with vampires
>>521525318Zuvassin tier
>>521525436This time, I've enabled the dwarf and empire to balloon because I smashed the early greenskin and undead aggressions while giving them settlements. Moulder completely ate Kislev, so I spent around 30 turns grinding them to death. It was pretty fun running around as an elite order army to help out civilisation.
franz liedpeople died
>>521525437
>>521526065Skill issue
Me, getting my ass destroyed by Tamurkhan's ambush...
>>521526065GIWTWM
All the Chaos gods are rivals of each other, none of them are working together
Horned Rat is the most powerful chaos god.
>>521526952what about the Horny rat?
Slanesh is ascendent.
how do i get gud with lokhirvh/h and by the time i finish off those stupid fucking vampirates, gelt and they chinese have already formed a defensive allianceeven when i use the sorceress to slow down the vampirate armies i still can fucking catch them, i hate cathay so much
All this time I thought the Tzeentch blue fire spell is just for blobs but I targetted Oxyotl with it, not exactly a big target, and it just decimated himIt has no cooldown so I just did 4-5 blasts back to back and he died. In like 15 seconds.
>>521526952Nurgles funny pet rat is none of that.
Is Ikit as broken in 3 as he was in 2? I'm kinda itching for a skaven campaign, and I remember him being a lot of fun in a very stupid way as he just fucking supercharged the already pretty good skaven guns.
>>521527086Slaanesh is the worst chaos god. No amount of DLC and powercreep will change the fact that Slaanesh was, is and forever will be the runt of the litter.
>>521526065Just get jadechad bro that will fix that up for you.
>>521414081That was almost certainly the plan for Pharaoh until they nixed it and shrunk it down into dynasties. It's a shame because while you lose out on sea memes and Dendra panoply and Achilles you gain a lot with iron age. If I had the time to mod the campaign map and not just texture I'd have wanted to try and do a conversion of Pharaoh to it.>>521506280AoS needs time, a lot of time, to really bake and set up roots. They still don't even have Malekith's faction yet. That said I am 50/50 on whether AOS or 40k will be the next 'fantasy' total war CA said. Might even be more 60/40 or 75/25 with the likelihood. That's not desire, I dread it, it just feels plausible. I wouldn't say they are bored of TWW though, and I say that as someone who isn't a warhammerfag who just wants nothing but warhammer. But then that opens the question of what the fantasy total war is, as CA said they are making survival horror, fantasy, and historical in development titles. Someone challenged me a topic or two back on suggesting 40k might not be fantasy, but usually people delineate between fantasy and sci-fi, not lump them together. IE "I'm playing a fantasy game" and then you ask me what game and I say star wars that's not expected. LOTR and it's pretty much just medieval 3 with orcs and cave trolls. Westeros:TW and it's the same thing. Mythology:TW and it's creative but also "Why didn't you guys do that sooner". Other settings are more obscure or tied up in shitty IP holders, while warhammer is just perfectly tailor suited to the total war format.40k feels like the smart option (even if not 'fantasy' per se), but medieval 3 was also the smart option and it's been 20 fucking years so maybe CA is just not smart.
>>521411515They'll pivot to Rome 3.
>>521528683 khorne worshiper typed this post
>>521411515I don't believe legend but Eastern Euroop only 1500s would be another Bulgaria-TW situation of the fundamentals are great but everyone is disappointed with the scope. Unless it's a WH1 situation of laying the table for more to come. I say that preferring 1500s Eastern Europe to 1500s Western Europe. I'd get the former on release and waitfag on the latter. >>521525236Took literally millions of years of Eldar peace and prosperity to reach that though.>>521523661The rationale I gather is magic is stealing from the warp. So dishonorable ranged weapons, bombs, and the like are permitted but probably with degrees to it: Bullets are far more permissive than a rocket, while a chemical or nuclear weapon is pic related.>>521522940I hate mechanics that you can get soft locked out of. What the fuck do you do if you have to fight dwarves 15 times and they got wiped out?
>>521528934AoS will never be fleshed out.The whole idea behind it is adding random stuff and NEVER fully outline any plan or complete roster.The confusion isn't an accident, it is by design.We'll never get the Kurnothi or the Umbraneth, we will sooner get the "Gargants of Nurgle" faction or the "Eagle Men of Azyr" faction or some other weird bullshit made up just to sell models.
CA """leaks""" literal nonsense to legend because they know he's too retarded to consider it being nonsense and will regurgitate it for free, and they know his fans are just as retarded and will believe him outright.
I finally tried Shogun 2 and>long load times despite the game being old>no mods for modern resolutions, tiny UI>every faction is the same>generally boring>really fucking boringAnyone saying this game is good has not played it since they were kid or something.
I cant believe there are people who still think they didnt pivotwhere did the 8 months go then?
>lord recruiting>reaches 18/20 units>gets the recruiter trait that makes him a little better at recruitingThese traits are useless, what is even the point of that? He's done recruiting
>>521529871give those units to another lord and make him recruit more units
>>521529863It's been 5 months and they barely started on Slaanesh. CA is just like that.
Why the hell is Boris so useless? I've given this motherfucker half the chaos wastes and he's permanently stuck at power rank 100+ in a midgame with 130 factions
>>521530185Don't worry they're making the AI even more passive in the AI rework.
Resident retard hereI am playing wh3 right now, I am a noob but it seems to me that you literally can never lose a single battleLike if I was to lose a battle during a war and get my 20 unit stack demolished then the ai would steamroll meThis makes me give up campaigns when I get into difficult situationsAm I retarded or is coming back from a loss easier than it seems?
>>521530298But seriously why can't he get more than one half full army with 4 provinces
>>521530886Give him 20~30k and he will. Or even better, fully build up settlements before gifting them to the AI so they don't spend money on buildings. I do that with all my vassals and they focus entirely on raising armies.
>>521530886You gifted him provincesHe's now spending his income developing them instead of army building
>>521530185Minor factions aren't interested in expanding
>>521523131And she/he enjoyed every moment of it.
>>521530185If we want to be merciful, we can assume he's fucking broke.Did you SELL him all that un-upgraded land in the Chaos Wastes? The AI isn't good at coming back from poverty because they don't raid and sack.
>>521500013>>521500139>>521500383>>521500487
>>521530875Your army being lost frees up a massive amount of upkeep which you can then get an army back with, it seems disastrous until you see your income the next turnIt's going to cost a province not just a settlement but if you're yielding one province as a buffer that's plenty of time to get a stack back up and maybe reinforce with another armyThe first 30 turns are definitely the easiest to lose the campaign in though because you don't have much ground to give
>>521531221actually they probably thought it was pretty boringdying is one of the most common things in existence
>>521530031I'll probably be able to afford another army in like 15 turnsThis money stuff doesn't exactly grow on trees
>>521531612death is also nurgle's realm and nurgle is ugleh
>>521530875If you play a campaign that has some sort of visibility over the AI you'll realize that the AI never steamrolls anyone, it's too stupid to do that.It's just as likely to sack and walk away as it is to occupy, and then it's just as likely to return back home as it is to move to the next settlement.The main problem is that some factions do not have the capacity to recruit fast enough, even if you have the money to do it. For example Tzeentch, there's not even a recruit commandment. You get 2 units per turn.
>>521531612It's not about being common it's about being exhilarating and dying is the culmination of your entire existence, the sweetest sorrow possibleWhat can be done on a stage more extreme than your own death, a true final act?That kind of thing is why Slaanesh worshippers go to war
>>521531784>death is also nurgle's realm the opposite, nurgle doesnt want people to die, he wants them to live in the bliss of eternal decay and rotThe only god associated with death is Khorne and only if its associated with bloodshed
>>521531087>>521531108>>521531216>>521531405Okay yeah he's probably brokeI needed the gold more than he did
>>521532056classic nurglefag cope
>>521532013daemons dont die dumbass
>>521517476>Silly Sotek implies a far more threatening Sotek that isnt sillyNah, Sotek plays hard & kills hard
Cool cheat
>>521532056>the opposite, nurgle doesnt want people to die, he wants them to live in the bliss of eternal decay and rotThats not Nurgle at all, Nurgle being "hurr durr live 4ever is constant no chance" is not how stagnation is represented, he's the god of CYCLES, and despises changes to the CYCLES, especially that of life and death: for in death, new life arisesIts one of the huge reasons why he utterly despises undead: they have completely thrown out the cycle
>>521532056>The only god associated with death is KhorneWell this isn't 40gay where there are only chaos gods, gods like Morr and Ereth Khial and Usirian are very real
>>521532206see >>521523131I accept your concession in advance
>>521532763The context was obviously chaos gods, dumb esl
>>521532539Reminds me of that Doom spell in FFX
>>521532206You mind repeating that?
>>521532206Chaos was never fuelled by what daemons do it's all about the mortals
Doom and Darkness is a funny spell to cast on undead with 15 leadership or less
Who would win.An ancient demon prince.Or a rock.
>>521532206they die when you kill them
>>521533838the daemon cant die though lol
How did this trick with capturing enemy artillery work, again? Should I kill them off or let them rout. Does it matter even?
>>521534248its a dice roll
>>521533910not since 2007 when bush signed executive order 13449, banning people from dying when they are killed
can a lorefag explain to me why there are like 9 settlements named Vauls Anvil
https://youtu.be/raY_IWvwRME?si=tF5_qpas2aOsSQuJWhich Be'lakor voice do you prefer Thorin or the one from Vermintide?
>>521535023When you have a Vaul's Hammer, everything looks like a Vaul's Anvil.
>>521535023Original is on donut, dookie have that spot where hotek dude finished malekeks armor, and tree huggers have daith the vauls avatar or something and he said fuck it I want one too.
I just wanna save Sarthoreal bros...
>>521535556You can by gifting him a settlement. He's not really worth it thoughbeit.
>>521535748You get free exalted lord of change with new shiny skills to use very early. I say it's worth it.
>>521535023Because Elves each claim a location to honor him that they have the real oneHelves have the place he started workingDelves have his old toolsWelves consider Daith to be Vaul's reincarnation A birthplace of aviation moment
>>521535748Does he have any unique skills?
>>521535864You lose one turn of momentum for it. He's not much better than a generic exalted LoC.
>>521535993Didn't say he's any better. But you can get him way faster than recruiting and leveling herald to 15.
>>521535993wow that looks like the bird man from space marine 2
>>52153629740k and fantasy have the same daemons
>>521536342then why doesnt the bird just freeze everyonespace marines are stronger than dumb peasants
>>521535993>been part of Total Warhammer since the very beginning of game 1>this is all he getswow
>>521534248>KF with the runefangPretty cool.
>>521536913He was the advisorWhich means he's EmpireWhich means he's supposed to suck
>>52153688740k space marines and fantasy peasants are on the same power level lol
>>521537350BretGODS are built different
>>521537083He was advisor-kuns raven though
>>521537434So he was an Empire raven for a bitWhich means he's still supposed to suck
>>521537540>Advisor>EmpireI think not FOOOL
Fantasy mortals are as powerful as space marines because they believe in REAL gods that give them real powerThe Emperor is just a man that gives no boons
>>521537802not anymore with muh living saints
>>521537802>greater daemon in 40k>can singlehandedly destroy an entire planet>greater daemon in fantasy>dies to a single regiment of halberdiers Fantasy humans are more powerful than space marines.
>Confederate Elspeth.>Suddenly hit with this.Oh.Apparently winning the vampire wars was enough to get the short victory.
It's criminal what you can do with a chokepoint, a tarpit, spirit leech, and a couple units of pistols.
>>521538068https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SdJ9BqH4D8
Make a new thread before I piss meself
>>521539457>>521539457>>521539457Move when ready.
