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Store link:
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# Guides (Major spoilers; avoid until having played through the game once):
>Routes & Subroutes
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050501797
>Achievements
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050231198
>Stars
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3053199741
>Complete Episode 2 Walkthrough
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052417644

# News:
>CHAPTER 3A HAS BEEN RELEASED
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=523086940514289223

# Nemlei's previous games:
https://mega.nz/file/FSFXURYI#FhEp5w4qMv4w0A0mMfQ4YqLD5TJuve014_-eTNdIbSI

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Today seems like a good day, to burn a bridge or two
The one with old wood creaking that would burn away right on cue
I try to be not like that, but some people really suck
people need to get the axing, chalk it up to bad luck
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I'm gonna scream anyway.
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Sprite Supremacy!
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andrew and ashley are the only ones with pimples in HS. wanting to fuck your sibling gives you pimples
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>>521523657
on the balls?
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kill leyley, attain ashley
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>>521523553
Delete this, sisters are for cuddles NOT abuse
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>>521523685
STOP FUCKING SCREAMING
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>>521523943
Do not kill the part of you that is leyley, kill the part of you that hates leyley
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>>521524123
>STOP FUCKING SCREAMING
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>>521523696
fuck that bitch
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>>521524129
I am not tolerating brats
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>>521520920
you cant take you mom to prom anon
what would dad say?
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>>521524123
Renee is such a god tier wife really
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>>521523696
I want to squeeze her hair ball things
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>>521523943
I need more cute art of teen Andrew and Ashley in the alternate universe where he didn't push her away and was just honest with her.
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>>521524308
>It's my sleep day Anders, keep it down when you two get back
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>>521523696
cute snow elf!
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>>521523696
>hey barber give me the mickey mouse haircut
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>>521523696
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>>521523553

Anyone ever discuss the door with the eyes on it in Ashley's dream during episode 2?
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Threads moving fast today eh
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when did this happen??
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>>521524369
imagine the HOURS of loving teenage sister plapping andrew missed out on
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>>521524749
Slower than yesterday which is a good thing
>>521524464
His soul can't be away from Renee's for 5 minutes without going grime, that's not happening
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>Julia being a VERY light skinned mulatta/quadroon
Honestly? I can see it, and I think I like it.
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Haha, Nemlei put a brown girl in the game
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>>521524963
Episode 2, when Andre falls asleep and dreams about his side of the Nina incident.
You have an option to go to the balcony and meet Doug there.
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>>521524963
It didn't.
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>>521524987
>can't be away from Renee's for 5 minutes
How the fuck does he go to work then?
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>>521525135
He leaves work when he misses Renee
Why do you think he's always fired
>>521525020
She just has portuguese lineage
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>>521524963

In a memory/dream where you're controlling Andy when he's in the old apartment. Walk out to the patio and you'll see the Dad.
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>>521524969
I prefer not to think about things like that actually
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>>521525123
>>521525201
I'll have to go back and see this. not one stone may remain unturned in my save file.
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>>521524502
She's aware
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>>521525109
those girls are americlaps
>>521524308
who did Andrew take to prom?
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Does it turn into two different sub-routes here?
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>>521523696
My HEROINE!
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>>521525432
They probably didn't have a prom period, since Coffin is in fictional northern european inspired country.
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>>521525491
Andy is a fail route that takes you back to the choice. The real subroute choice was in episode 2 if you kill or don't kill Andrew in the dream.
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>>521525135
He doesn't, why do you think he gets fired?
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>>521525491
Yes. You HAVE to pick andy for good end
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>>521525491

Picking Andy leads a short premature ending.
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>>521525289
any more flicks like this?
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>>521525512
Ik anon let me pretend
it wasnt Julia because she was in the hospital from an OD at the time
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>>521525598
>>521525667
>fail route
>happiest ending by far (andy is just a whiner and will get over it)
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>>521525825
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>>521525825
>no incest sex
>he'll get over it
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>>521525825

I didn't say fail route. I'd let her take care of me forever. FOREVER.
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>>521525825
>>521525895
>>521526025
THE ABSOLUTE ICK
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>>521526234
She got the ick because the man she looked up to forever just had an emotional breakdown. Women hate that.
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>>521523685
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON
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>>521526234
>When his height is under 6'2
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>>521525598
I don't remember what I chose back then, fuck
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>>521526459
>ginger faggot
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>>521526495
If Ashley is roasting marshmallows then you killed Andrew. If she's not then you didn't.
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ashley is a ''quirky chungus'' phenotype
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>>521526234
I think it was partly ick but also confusion, like she legit couldn't understand why Andrew was getting upset
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>>521526612
shut the fuck up
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>>521526025
Sloppy make out sessions are still on the table
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>>521526621
Stickley
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>>521526478
Andrew is canonically tall
He also canonically has a big dick
No wonder all the hussies want him
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>>521526558
Being english should be a crime punished by swift yet painful death
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>>521525895
Truly becoming your sister's whipped house-husband is the grimmest of all fates.
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>>521526852
Correct, Irish are superior.
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>>521525491
Andy goes on for a while but is ultimately a dead end.

Andrew goes on for longer but also gets you to a final pretty bad end in episode 3. It is however a more complete and satisfying ending than the Andy path(no harm in seeing both though)

However these are actually both branching paths within the "wrong" route. The path to episode 4 is based on a choice you made "wrong" at the end of episode 2. I also need to go back and do that different to get the other route, will do it soon.
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>>521526919
true, it's better when he whips her
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>>521526979
Ashley herself would probably like to be whipped too
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>>521526852
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>>521526604
Thanks
>>521526975
Does it matter if I use the payphone to call Julia?
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>>521526234
>Show emotional vulnerability
>Woman is immediately disgusted
Why?
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>>521527089
>spoiler
That's a star.
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>>521526459
Honestly all their problems would be solved if they just got Vella to Banish the Entity.
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>>521527145
He was sniveling and sobbing and didn't even wanna let her touch him, he acted like a baby and forced Ashley to become his mom.
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>>521527145
Pity is the death of attraction
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>>521527145
why are you an emotionally vulnerable faggot?
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>>521527072
Ashley is practically begging to be whipped by Andrew.
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>>521526975
It isn't "wrong" in what it symbolizes.
Letting him kill her in the vision (not even real) is probably the first time she has ever let him do things his way. The first compromise she's ever made, and one that isn't even real. It's in fake vision town.
It makes sense that such a decision would lead to the canon route.
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>>521527145
Because he didn't show emotional vulnerability, he crashed and burned into an over-emotional wreck and like >>521527259 said turned Ashley into his caretaker. There's nothing more disgusting to a woman than having to mother a guy that isn't her child.
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>>521527271
This, ironically, is the part where Andrew fell for Ashley and started seeing her more than a nuisance and an obligation.
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>>521527145
Vulnerability = can't protect her and her offspring = useless
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>>521523943
It is astonishing how this would have prevented basically all of their problems if he would have just gone through with it back then. They end up kissing anyway, so they just attached years of baggage over his initial rejection to both of their psyches that made them both significantly worse people for literally no reason.
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>>521527145
Ashley was trying to comfort him. He started acting abnormal so Ashley thought he was gonna snap and try to kill her again. It's not that hard to understand
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>4channers pretending to understand women
I am laffin
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>>521527569
>any does incest with leyley
>leyley snitches
>andy's social group cuts contact with him and they become homeless kids
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>>521528042
Women are not complicated.
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>>521528141
the whole school already thought he was boning her
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>>521528267
They knew it was a joke. Kids are just cruel
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>>521528141
Teenage Ashley was her at her most sensible and well-adjusted until Andrew rejected her, she told him she would grow up to meet his needs in their relationship, there's nothing to say that she wouldn't do what he asks of her to do to make it work.
they weren't in school at that point in time anymore, there was no social group overlap.
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>>521528141
andrew would be having sex with ashley
leyley would die and they'd both grow up and become functional adults
that was THE implication of that scene
ashley was finally willing to break away from her childishness and embrace romance and sex as an act of love rather than as leyley would perceive it; a gross transactional act to keep andy around
when andrew so harshly rejected her, it only caused her to regress further back into leyley
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>>521528343
so what's the proof this time?
>leyley said it!
she supposedly started the original one in the first place
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>>521528343
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>>521528471
>she supposedly started the original one in the first place
That was Julia
>>521528536
>Kids can be cruel, Jack! And I'm touching my inner child!
What DID he mean by this?
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>>521528042

Ashley knows Andrew will eventually leave her for a woman he can have sex with her trump card is to have sex with him in order to keep him around and control him.
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>>521528467
>andrew would be having sex with ashley
this is all andrew wants and sees in ashley, grim
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>>521528042
Women are not that different from men
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>>521528543
He recalls this moment when they're already teenagers, but the bonding moment itself happened at grandparents house, which is explicitly shown to be before Nina incident(notice the >>>>> sign)
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>>521528574
>That was Julia
No it wasn't, spamming this in every thread wont change this fact you subhuman
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>>521528657
it's not all he wants, but it's something he desperately needs
real sex and romance with someone that he can consider an equal to himself
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>>521528676
The fast forward/rewind thing made it kind of a mess at times.
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>>521528829
Huh?
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>>521528859
I mean, I thought it conveyed linearity of the events decently well
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>>521528471
>so what's the proof this time?
PLAY THE FUCKING GAAAAAAAAAME DUDE
THERE'S A WHOLE SEGMENT ABOUT THE KIDS GOING FROM "HAHA IT'S SO FUNNY" TO "WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING IT UP DUDE, THE JOKE IS STALE"
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>>521528985
Most important image Nemlei has ever given us.
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>>521528985
retard
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>>521529060
based Doug
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>>521528893
It's just Juliafags having another melty
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>>521529139
Ah, business as usual then.
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>>521528661
Source??
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>>521529139
>t. starts screeching everytime Julia gets posted
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>>521529293
I think you need to medicate
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>>521528985
>>521529060
I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T HAVE TO I HATE YOU I HATE ALL OF YOU
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So overall, I'm very glad Nemlei decided to release the first half instead of waiting. It's given the fanbase a life saving infusion and plenty to discuss until Decay 2, and Shots and Such is a kino "false ending" that gives a sense of finality until then. Waiters were mentally ill to ever vote for it imo.
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>>521528893
you do post that in every thread desu
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>>521529504
>Waiters were mentally ill to ever vote for it imo.
they were under the impression it wouldnt be very long
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>"Andrew.... use the backhand Andrew... it's the only way."
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>>521529421
You can have a smug snarky attitude if you've played the game and are right about everything. But otherwise, I expect to be treated with respect around here!
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>>521529504
Andrew wins at tag is the most kino ending.
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>>521529504
you zoomers are addicted to instant gratification
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>>521529517
Now read the rest of that flashback where Andrew thinks she's being bullied again and then Julia slips up by saying this
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>>521529795
>instant
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>>521529773
This is still the hottest image Nemlei has ever drawn
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>>521529060
Douglas is the most important character of the coffin universe.
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>>521529867
see how you post this in every thread despite getting proved wrong every time?
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>>521529795
SPLAT is the superior double death finale. Darkly humorous and poignant.
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>>521529645
>they were under the impression
rookie mistake
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>>521529971
Not even the same guy. It's just so funny seeing Juliafags meltdown every thread over someone not liking her
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I do wonder if Nemlei will actually reveal how the rumors actually started around the same time Douchebag was stood up. What Ashley said exactly to spill so much spaghetti that everyone thought it was Andrew's.

Not intentionally trying to feed into the Julia theory but I just realized that the rumor being about school on a sunday reminded me about Sunday School. A religious thing. And you know who would probably be part of that. But it wouldn't even be at a real school since that usually takes place at the church.
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>>521530101
sure bro
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>killing the kid is still the most gotten new achievement
lol
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>>521530165
>Ashley said exactly to spill so much spaghetti that everyone thought it was Andrew's.
Im pretty sure it was Ashley saying something stupid cause I think Andrew would have directly accused her by this point otherwise
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>>521530020
Ashley was sad to see them both die, I couldn't say I found it humorous.
Sure, she tried to pretend like it doesn't bother her and she's still the fearless Leyley, but it was a facade.
Cliffhanger SPLAT shows how tragic of an avoidable series of events were, given that Ashley chooses to act like Ashley and not Leyley when it was beyond too late to help things.
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>>521530303
>filtered billions
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Endings from best to worst are

>Decaying Along
>Prophecy Fulfiller
>Splat
>Shots & Such
>Hitman Wins
>Warden Wins
>Happy End
>Domestic Violence Arrest
>Andy End

Feel free to disagree, just know that you are wrong.
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>>521530389
until we find out for sure it'd be impossible to tell, but nothing seems to imply teenage Ashley was so reckless and maladjusted she'd do something incredibly stupid like this to fuck things up for her and Andrew when she knows how important it is.
Teenage Ashley has enough maturity to seriously considering growing up and being romantic with Andrew, do you seriously think she'd be so dumb and reckless that she'd slip up over something miniscule?
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>>521530303
To be fair, by that point the game has conditioned you that "here is a problem, solve puzzle" so I wouldn't be surprised if most people didn't realize you could just ignore it and leave. I sure didn't lol
>>521530670
You also just skip this if you're good enough at hiding shoes.
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>>521530757
>Teenage Ashley has enough maturity to seriously considering growing up and being romantic with Andrew
She really does seem more mature than the current Ashley we have
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>>521530724
>>Domestic Violence Arrest
Which is this?
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>>521530919
You fail the La Noire cop mini game and get arrested by the cops
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Splat is the worst and most edgy ending (and that's by design to drive the fact you really fucked up home)
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>>521530303
Reminder killing the kid and his parents locks you out of the good ending
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>>521530165
It's also weird how Julia went to try comforting Andrew about the rumors when she hasn't spoken to him in so long that she thought he wouldn't remember her. Meanwhile, there isn't a hint that she did the same to Ashley who's supposed to be her best friend
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>>521529795
yeah spending six hours to comb through all of the new content really was instant
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>>521530986
Oh damn, never thought to do that. I almost aced both games, but said "define intimate" to Julia like a retard. It's worse that it was a genuine response from me, it's what I would've actually said
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>>521530994
The ending isn't edgy, Andrew is edgy. It's the English degree, you see.
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>>521530885
She was, she was meeting him on his level, and they had an open and honest relationship, but Andrew was too conflicted and insecure to discuss how he feels about her specifically.
being rejected as harshly as she was, and then being ghosted for a year broke her heart and she figured Andrew doesn't actually want to see Ashley grow up, he'd rather deal with Leyley.
So, Leyley he gets.
3 months of dying of starvation doesn't help either.
At least in Cliffhanger run Ashley is coming out of her shell and comes into conflict with her Leyley habits again, and is honest with him again like bringing up him being chickenshit with fake nightmares and acting like she's too dumb to notice.
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>>521530994
You're gay though
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>>521530757
>Teenage Ashley has enough maturity to seriously considering growing up
you forgot
>she constantly stalked andrew
>had a mental breakdown when he said he's seeing julia
>said she'll kill both of them and herself if they become official
>asks andy to go with her to soda fountain because mean girls are there
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>>521531207
>who's supposed to be her best friend
According to who? Certainly not either of them. Ashley never considered Julia a friend, and Julia wasn't even sure if Ashley would use that word
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>>521531243
Honestly Andrew being pedantic over intimate would be in character for Andrew
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>>521531387
>Certainly not either of them
Ashley very clearly says Julia is her best friend when Andrew gets forced to talk to her about them dating
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>>521530994
Them both dying is a much better outcome than being miserable together and Ashley becoming a serial killer.
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>>521531283
Those 'souls' look like pieces of poop.
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>>521531369
Are you gonna pretend like Ashley doesn't see Andrew dating Julia for infidelity that it is for them?
Any woman would be fucking livid over being cheated on, even more when they're gaslit into thinking it's fine.
Ashley is perceptive enough to see thather and Andrew are NOT normal siblings.
Julia was also her only friend, or semblance of one, so not only is Andrew cheating on her, but he's doing it with one friend she had.
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>>521531315
exactly this
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>>521531647
>cheated on
not cheating by definition. he never confessed romantic interest to leyley or dated her or said they're in relationship
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>>521531315
his facade of being "normal", of being the "good brother", of not being "Andrew", of him being "not the guy who raised a child and now fucks her" is what he impulsively decided to maintain
it's a complex of guilt and the vestige he's built up his entire life
I view it as more of him being conflicted over his identity and what he really wanted
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they're cute together and all, but going back to their past and showing how ''they fell in love'' makes their relationship full of holes
would have been better to not dive that deep
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>>521531387
How many times do we have to bring up that the game itself shows us that Ashley saw Julia as her friend?
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>>521531647
>Are you gonna pretend like Ashley doesn't see Andrew dating Julia for infidelity that it is for them?
Ashley knows Andrew is crazy in love with her
I dont know why she doesnt just tell him that
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>>521530562
True. Meanwhile Andrew has never looked happier than in that picture. No more worrying about consequences, no more arguments or fighting, just holding Ashley to him as they check out.
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>>521531538
You really think Ashley meant that? The same Ashley who never actually called Julia her friend (according to Andrew).
Alright man, sure
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>>521531962
>nina is a goat
>like baphomet
Nina is turned into a big demon
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>>521530020
would kill for More art like this
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>>521531315
Ashley is basically the third woman in the relationship
Through that lens maybe she is the appropriate level of angry
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>>521531962
LOOK at that image, dude. Do they look like friends?
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>>521532262
To Ashley, they were.
Julia was the only person who tolerated her company and she wasn't absolutely lonely.
She lost that, and any trust in her she's had when Julia dated Andrew.
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Andrew is a nymphomaniac mentally ill retard that does not deserve a sisterwife like Ashley.

It's a shame i can't kill him without Ashley losing it and anheroing too
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>>521531486
Once again, it is abundantly clear that I am LITERALLY Andrew Graves
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>>521530562
Their last act being giving PTSD to a bunch of children for life was pretty funny tbf
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>>521531315
>Creepdrew.png
Weirdodrew
WhatthehellamIdoingheredrew
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>>521531943
Yeah, but you can see Ashley's frustrations over Andrew being unable to come to terms with this for what is now 7 years.
Leyley wouldn't really care, as long as she has Andrew period, but Ashley would be one to want them to have a relationship and would confront him about it, even if the ensuing confrontation hurts her.
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>>521524369
I see no world where Renee doesn’t ruin that.
She would notice them getting together and try to split them apart.
If they eloped she wouldn't let it be, Even without the incest It would look really bad on her for both of her children, one being underage, to run away together.
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>>521532707
>It would look really bad on her for both of her children, one being underage, to run away together.
Just bring Ashley to your college dorm and plap plap there
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>>521532707
When they had this talk, Ashley was 18/19 and Andrew was 20/21.
Ashley was also explicitly asking him about how he sees their relationship going forward, had he asked her to keep it low so Renee doesn't notice she'd probably listen until they move out.
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>>521532873
you really make it sound andrew just wants ashley to use her body and nothing else
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>>521524963
I wonder what the father's job was by the time he got killed.
The cashier job from EP3's dream was probably the one he lost that caused him to think about jumping.
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>>521532648
Duh. I'm just giving my reasons as to why I think he chose to do what he did. It still obviously wasn't the right thing to do. He should have admitted his love for her and his desire to pursue a romantic relationship as equals.
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>>521532979
they can have foreplay
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>>521533063
The game doesn't call him a fucking idiot for nothing
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>>521530562
>Ashley is in constant fear of Andrew killing him throughout Decay
>Reluctant to jump with Andrew in a mutual suicide pact at first
>Is scared to literal death clinging on to Andrew as they fall to their deaths
You know she tries to act like tough shit but she still at the end of the day has the most primal fear there is get to her. Meanwhile Andrew has given up all of that fear and even dares Ashley to shoot him in the "shoot Andrew" route.
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>>521532901
There is no way they were that old when that talk happened.
Just look at them >>521524369
14/15 was the highest I would give Ashley
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>>521533430
NTA but it feels so fucking good to stoop to your sisters' level and hurt her feelings
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>>521532707
They'd fuck off and create a new life together somewhere else. Since they'd be able to truly trust and confide in one another without any bullshit games, they'd be able to accomplish far more on their own than has been shown currently. That's assuming that they'd get kicked out, anyways. I think they'd hide it, move out, and then start a new life together.
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>>521530020
Its actually crazy how seamlessly they fit into Invader Zim. Like it doesn't even look like a crossover it looks so right.

Very compatible lore wise too. Like the paranormal isn't common knowledge in either world, and the very cynical, ugly quality to what most people are like and how stupid culture is in the wider world are is almost identical between both. Huge amounts of shared DNA, no wonder I like this so much after how much I loved Zim as a kid.
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>>521533509
I feel like it's not only primal fear but also sadness over ruining their relationship, she always holds out for hope things can improve, and she doesn't want either of them to die.

It's kind of why she randomly says "I/You win!" when they mend things together, because to her it means repairing their relationship.
Like in cliffhanger run, when her and Andrew had a talk in the tower, and kiss and make up, and Andrew notably stops blaming her shit going wrong(at least internally) and gives her props that the situation they're in is not her fault and tries to cut her slack.
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>>521533536
A year after that talk we are basically at current day
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>>521533536
no they were that old. 1 year later the lock down happened
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>>521532373
Not the guy you were arguing with, but:
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>I-I sure did show my whore of a mother that I'm totally not a failure...
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>>521533887
This artist does a great job too.
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>>521533536
They had this talk, Andrew rejects her.
Ignores her for a year.
By that point they look like modern Andrew and Ashley, make ammends.
Shortly afterwards, the game itself begins.
They used their teenage models, sure, but timeline seems to show they were 18/19 and 20/21 at the time.
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>>521534076
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>>521534101
Its important to me that some anons realize that they are not 14/15 at the point of the talk anymore
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>>521534056
I'm not saying they were healthy friends, or that Julia liked her, but Ashley saw it as friendship
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>>521534076
Well her kids didn't get teen pregnant, so that's a success
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>>521534056
LOOK AT THAT CUTE FUCKING NOSE
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>>521534414
>oink oink SUIIEEEEEEE
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>>521534279
>or that Julia liked her
Ashley is the one that hated Julia
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>>521534261
God. I wish I had what they have. Douglass is so cool
>>521534265
NTA but I do kinda always forget that. I think Nemlei should redraw that scene with older models
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>>521534503
You can have toxic and vitriloic friendships.
Again, Burial's vision, asin a vision into Ashley's mind, shows us that Ashley sees Julia as a friend.
Whether her concept of friendship is healthy, is a completely diferent conversation.
Also, Julia at numerous points mutually dislikes Ashley but she's too timid to say it out loud.
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>>521534503
Even Andrew points out that Julia wishes that Ashley was dead. Julia definitely hated Ashley, probably for a long time
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>>521534501
My cute little piggy gf. Don't tell her I said that though
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>>521534594
>Not even for a second
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>>521534742
probably after the death threats. But before the whole dating Andrew stuff Julia probably saw Ashley as her friend
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>>521534839
>how Douglas feels when he holds Renee in his arms
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>>521533509
Andrew always faults Ashley for "stringing him along" for bullshit, but where's that attitude when he strings her along for fucking suicide?
Ashley should've raped him again for even suggesting it.
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>>521534742
>Julia wishes that Ashley was dead
After all the torture Ashley did to Julia, not at that moment
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>>521534881
come death threats, Ashley obviously doesn't see Julia as a friend either, but someone who betrayed her.
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>>521534989
Brother correction sorely needed, do what you must Rapeley.
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>>521534989
That was her choice, he even tried to tell her to just go on and live without him but she's too attached.
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>>521533951
>>521533974
>>521534101
>Hottest Ashley form is legal
I will take it.
I wish we had a timeline, I might be a brainlet but I struggle to set how much time passes between each flashback.
If I'm not mistaken Andrew dated Julia for 5-6 years, it really puts a light on why Ashley is so bothered about anything Julia when they have been dating for a quarter of her life.
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>>521535120
This. Andrew was going to jump with or without Ashley but in Ashley's eyes he's the only thing worth living for.
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>>521526234
The most realistic depiction of a woman
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>>521535240
I don't think Andrew would've jumped without Ashley. I mean could you imagine it? Andrew climbing out the window while Ashley is left sobbing and begging him to stop? It wouldn't have been romantic at all.
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>>521535215
It must have been probably like 8 years?
He seemingly started dating her when he was like 14/15(though admittedly we do not know when it happens), visited Nina's grave/had a talk with Ashley where they were at odds when he was 18/19, and Julia breaks up with him when he's 22.
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>>521535376
>that cute little tongue
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>>521535120
I mean to be fair to Ashley, to her that'd be like if Andrew told her she needed to suck his cock in order eat dinner. Andrew is a basic fundamental need for her to live as much as food and water are.
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>>521535376
>Nemlei throwing a bone to every part of the community
HOLY BASED
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>>521535376
oink
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>>521535215
>Andrew dated Julia for 5-6 years,
My HC is only like 3 years
I just dont see how any woman could put up with Andrew's horseshit for that long
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>>521534989
When Ashley does it, it's manipulative and abusive. She knows Andrew cares about her too much to see her suffer, so she forces him to fix her mistakes
When Andrew does it, it's rightly guided advice and Ashley would be better off listening
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>>521534664
>>521534742
Sticking together with a group of "friends" who all secretly hate each other just to have a social circle is the quintessential adult female friendship experience. Nothing unusual about it.
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>>521534881
>>521535004
>Julia acts like she's too busy to show up to Ashley's birthdays without even knowing what day it is
>Ashley's friend painting shows Julia reluctantly being around her
>It's heavily implied that the people Ashley considers friends are the ones bullying her
>There's not a single scene in the game of Julia and Ashley actually being friends when even Friend B had multiple scenes with Andrew

I mean, I think it's been pretty clear ever since Julia and Nina's reaction to Andrew asking them to hang out with Ashley that Julia just used Ashley
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>>521535586
Julia is a religious girl so dating to her holds a lot more value, and she's much less inclined to break up with him.
Andrew also keeps doing right things, saying right things.
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>>521535376
I-I am NOT a vorefag. I swear to ??? I am NOT a vorefag and this game will not make me one!
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>>521535453
Julia is Ashley's classmate so she should be 20 years old in the current day.
For you to be right they would need to start dating while she was 12
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Friendly reminder that Andrew R. Graves was RAPED, MOLESTED, and emotionally BRUTALIZED in the cold, cloudy Finnish summer of 1992.
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I want to kick julia off a bridge and give ashley a hug, a big brotherly hug
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>>521535746
Nina definetly bullied Ashley, you can see her be annoyed over meeting Ashley and constantly acting as a contrarian.
she was only on her best behavior due to Andrew's presence.

Ashley considering Julia her friend probably means Julia didn't bully Ashley, but she definetly always disliked her, which probably grew into hatred, which she just doesn't express due to her timid and shy nature.
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>>521535815
Weird because it has nothing to do with vore. The dick is so good that Julia is ahegoaing or whatever the fuck it's called.
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>>521535927
He went right back for seconds and apologized cause it wasnt good
ABSOLUTELY BUCK BROKEN
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>>521535942
She looks old here
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>>521535927
What does the R stand for
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>>521535732
kek
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>>521535952
Based. Julia is an airheaded gossip who spread lies to get Andrew to date her.
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>>521535823
sorry, i was mixed up, he was 20/21 during the talk, making Ashley 18/19, and likely, Julia as well.
There actually was a talk where Julia suggested they get their own place, and then she settles for a dorm, which lines up with her being 18, as she likely only entered uni.
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>>521535519
>>521536047
more
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>>521536001
>The dick is so good that Julia is ahegoaing or whatever the fuck it's called.
Wrong, it's a blowjob
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>>521536119
Retard
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>>521536312
>Andrew got a nice church girl to commit sodomy
Bastard
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Do you think there was ever a time he fucked Julia, Andrew almost moaned out Ashley's name?
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>>521536545
>moaned out Ashley's name
Every time
Jane heard
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>>521536545
Yes, and Julia thought it was hot too, though she didn't confront him about it
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>>521535784
Julia more like Cutelia haha
>>521536441
Truly a agent of the serpent
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>>521535927
I wish I could remember the lyrics to the song so I could edit them to be about Andrew
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>>521536963
>Julia more like Cutelia
Fact check: TRUE
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>>521536119
Raped
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...she really made her daughter whore out for a job
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>>521537420
No she didn't
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>>521537474
yes she did
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>>521537607
no she didn't
you really think Renee would ever let her daughter be a whore? imagine what other people would say
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>>521537667
she did, but then she convinced herself she didn't because Ashley is an adult and she's just doing it as a cry for attention and not her being depressed
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>>521537869
i accept your concession
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>>521534076
The crimes I'd commit for more broken, crying Renee art bros...
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For real though, if Andrew and Ashley had eloped and moved to another city at 21/19 would Renee have tried to intervene or washed her hands of them?
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>>521537667
bro, she doesn't comprehend her daughters mental state at all. shes been doomspiraling since middle school and thinks pushing her over the edge is whats going to fix it. renee flat out said ''let it teach her a lesson''. shes a rotten spiteful cunt despite thinking everyone else is.
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Balls deep in Julia while her arms are wrapped around my neck and she moans uncontrollably
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>>521538010
Renee's the kind of persion who just doesn't accept blame or responsibility(which is a major tell she's bullshitting Andrew when she's tied up, she would NEVER admit fault unless she's doing it for a ploy).
When Ashley has her at hostage point, Renee has no reason to pretend and continues denying any kind of responsibility for her actions.
She even blamed them being locked up in quarantine as their own fault.
Acts like Andrew raising Ashley is a given and she's his responsibility.
Like, within the conversation of Renee pushing Ashley to become a prostitute, her points are:
>it's not that kind of place
>if it is, then it'd be a lesson for her
>I didn't push her to do it anyway, she's just doing it as a way to get my attention
>why didn't YOU talk her out of it Andrew, why weren't you here?
>why are you moving back in?
You just can't win with Renee because she'll always blame someone else, other than herself and Doug.
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>>521538401
Renee always correctly thought Ashley was attention whoring
She was only wrong when she thought she was trying to get her attention and not Andrew. Renee would never let Ashley become a actual whore, not because she cares about her but because people whould say her daughter is a whore
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>>521538546
>t. reformed Douchebag
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>>521537420
Blaming Andrew for not doing her job as a parent before whining and playing the victim pissed me off so much.
This episode completely changed my opinion on her
From a hot and amusing and a complete piece of garbage who got away too easy.
The kids should have killed Douglas and let her suffer the rest of her rotten life by herself.
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>>521538591
Not him but Douchebag is literally me
>>521538348
She wanted them to leave, she would not care
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>>521538348
Ep2 shows that Renee is fine with letting them fuck off and do whatever they want as long as they're far away from her.
as shitty as she is, she does kinda love them, so I don't think she'd go out of her way to fuck things for her if they don't inconvenience her.
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>>521535952
I'm glad you're finally coming around, Andrew
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>>521538348
She 100% would've let them leave. While she might have suspected that they'd start a relationship, that wouldn't be enough to make her suffer through living with them. She already wanted them gone before the quarantine
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>>521538348
She would have washed her hands of them. Even when they showed back up after they had allegedly died, she told them to fuck off again with only a suggestion that they don't live together.
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>>521538546
Imagine having sloppy morning lovey dovey sex with Julia on a rainy sunday
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Do you think Douchebag actually wore that hat or was it just part of the whole theater theme of the dream because Andrew's a sap
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>>521538348
>>521538401
Honestly who would actually be alive that Renee would care to keep up good appearance in regards to her children? It's not like she cares about her mother and Connie has been long dead by that point. While we don't know how her relationship with Douglas' parents is, it likely still is terrible or that they're dead.

Coworkers? Friends?
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>>521539052
just theater dramatics
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>>521538956
Missionary sex with Julia so you can watch her big boobs jiggle and stare right at her pretty face
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>>521538321
I'm glad art of these two are ramping up
Too bad the visions are hard to unlock, especially for the brainlet masses
>>521538549
>which is a major tell she's bullshitting Andrew when she's tied up, she would NEVER admit fault unless she's doing it for a ploy
Nemlei said she was legit until Ashley came up and ruined the vibes.
>>521539170
>it likely still is terrible or that they're dead.
Renee had the grandma's necklace so they're probably dead
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>>521539170
She'd probably just lie to them that her kids are doing amazingly and have moved on despite not knowing(and caring enough) what they're up to
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>>521538576
>Renee would never let Ashley become a actual whore
She literally did.
She was getting ready to go for her whore job before Andrew barged in on the bathroom and convinced her otherwise.
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>>521539272
How high maintenance is Julia tho?
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>>521539312
she was legit BEFORE ashley pulled a gun on her and held her hostage.
I meant when she was in the basement, by then, any love she had for them was gone and she was set on killing them.
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>>521539446
She thought Ashley was shit testing her
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>>521539532
She seems pretty low maintenance. She stayed with Andrew for years, and he was pretty neglectful
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>>521539532
Takes about half a decade of neglect for her to leave you. She's like a cactus.
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>>521539532
Not high at all >>521369258
>>521539603
I was typing this basically word for word lol
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>>521539631
Who the fuck orders images like that?
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>>521539532
The only obligations to be with Julia are
>exist
>don't have a sibling
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>>521539631
>Ashley's development almost by itself, it really was that easy to fix their relationship earlier
if Andrew stops lying to himself and by extension Ashley he will have the relationship he wants with Ashley quickly
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>>521539631
Pretty much, though it does take effort from Ashley to do better(not shooting Andrew in the vision)
Andrew for her part, starts cutting her some slack too
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>>521539052
Andrew hates the hat, so he probably did
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>>521539736
>She's like a cactus.
And I want to FUCK cactuses
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>>521539631
>I kinda asked for it
Did this game caused butthurt between feminists lol
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>>521539631
>Andrew starts character growth from a demon flushing him down the despair toilet
>Ashley starts character growth by talking to a demon that's just autistically staring back at her
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>>521539736
Think shed mind if I call her by her sisters name?
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>>521540073
Weird Pokémon battle.
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>>521539789
I would treat Jules so right
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>>521540073
The theme of Coffin is confronting your personal demons.
for Ashley, it's ???, who represents paranoia, controlling tendencies, Leyley.
For Andrew, it's Lord Unknown, who represents his desire for a parent, and an ability to just start over a new life from a clean slate, wish his problems away, Andy.
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>>521539789
Can I do hard drugs in her dorm room?
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>>521540290
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>>521540336
>Jules
Male nickname. Julia goes by Julie (but only from me)
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>have to wait another year + for part 4
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>>521540506
>Male nickname
what, no
i dont think ive ever met a single male Jules
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>>521540541
I dont think it will be that long anong
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>>521540073
>>521540383
I mean isn't the context of Ashley reflecting on herself being that the entity is trying to put a wedge between her and Andrew by saying that Andrew will burn the tailsman
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>>521540541
Who knows, not necessarily.
3A took about 11 months, with 2 major delays.
3B has been in the works for about 2 months now.
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>>521535942
Illegal sisterly weapon
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>>521532403
Douchebag...
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>>521539052
He wore the hat every day and every night, and he romanced ALL the girls
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>>521540573
Julian Casablancas sometimes goes by Jules
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>>521539532
She's high maintenance. What kind of person demands you find a specific color of flower to put on a grave for someone you don't know?
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>>521540674
Yeah, and ??? largely represents Leyley, her paranoia and obsession with control. you can frame their back and forth as Ashley talking to Leyley, she's in conflict now.
Ashley is coming around to trust him again, but ??? is that nagging voice that is trying to make her doubt Andrew and put a wedge between them.
In episode 2, Ashley talks to Demon after her fight with Andrew in a car, a low point, and it's where she comes up with her ploy with parents to keep Andrew around, despite it straining their relationship.
Every single time she listens to ??? she makes things worse for them, it's a spiraling addiction that will only lead her to being consumed by it, as we see in a vision, where she becomes a demon with a hole in her heart that will now never be healed.
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>>521540073
>talking at ??? and random cultists then thinking back on what she says is the closest Ashley ever gets to introspection

lol
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>>521540789
GODchebag
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>>521540573
Samuel L. Jackson played a guy named Jules in Pulp Fiction
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Jules from Fortnite is a girl with freckles too
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Jules is a troon
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>>521536083
Andrew and Ashley wouldn't stop fucking until they die of old age
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>>521534989
It was literally her idea.
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God, this game makes me realize how fucking lonely I am. Andrew, Ashley, Renee, Douglas, even fucking Friend B have all been able to hold and be held by someone near and dear to them. They've all experienced the range of human emotions, they know what it's like to feel. I keep getting sucked into this game, getting pulled into the deep seeded emotions people feel for those around them, and then closing it to crawl into my cold and empty bed. It's not fucking fair that these psychos get to be happy. I just wish I had someone in my life to be my Ashley or Renee or even fucking Julia. I just want somebody to love. I want to be able to hold them while they sleep in my arms and talk to them honestly about how I feel and yes have lots of sex. I just want this loneliness to be over
I feel so alone, gonna end up a big ol' pile of them bones.
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>>521533887
They both have that grungy 90s feel.
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One thing I found interesting in the scene at the surgeon, Renee actually was trying to think of some way, something to fight the surgeon to potentially save her kids but it isn't until Douglas who tells her to give it up because it's not worth it, and only THEN does she accept and comes around to blame them for their predicament.
I feel like even Renee could've been a decent mom had Douglas been there to want her to make do better and not just coddle her.
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>>521533887
The Coffin of Dib and Gaz
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>>521542659
Jane's wife
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>>521540948
To add to this Ashley still doesn't really see Andrew in that conversation. She thinks him stealing the talisman is an unqualified betrayal despite knowing how scared he is about their situation, and she tells it he's her older brother and only exists to keep her safe and happy. It's not so much Ashley talking to Leyley as safe and happy Leyley talking to paranoid Leyley. She can be ready for him to help her but only Andrew can actually make her change.
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>>521542174
The Surgeon being so misogynistic he never addresses Renee directly, and her still getting a sprite in this scene while Douglas doesn't is really funny
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>>521542174
Yeah, they enable each other. Andrew is like his father in more ways than he can imagine.
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>>521541196
Just like your mom then
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am I missing anything?
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>>521543550
An imoutowife to love
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>>521542731
Well she's in a lot of turmoil in that scene in general as she's conflicted over him coming around on her, kissing her, so I think it is Ashley, talking to Leyley, she's just really confused as to how to proccess Andrew's gradual change and tries to bring up their old dynamics
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That talisman really is a devious little thing, isn't it?
It's extremely useful for escaping the consequences of crimes, yet to keep using it, one must commit more crimes, thus digging yourself deeper and deeper into the hole.
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>>521529741
KEK
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>>521543676
Ashley isn't even getting anything out of the talisman anymore, it's just plain addiction at this point.
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>>521543550
You're missing a star, did you get Ashley as the bride on the cake?
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>>521542659
Would Ashley's meltdown be bigger if Andrew was fucking Rebecca instead of Julia?
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Julia's pussy gets extremely wet and makes a lot of noise
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>>521531962
Friends is even in quotes, you are actually retarded.
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>>521544076
Answer me honestly, do you have a critical reading comprehension, are you clinically retarded, or are you just obtuse?
Every single poster there is in qutoes, because this is what the title of each picture is, you troglodyte.
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>>521544076
Every textbox is in quotes retard
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>>521540470
There is so much wrong with that image that even I someone who haven't played a pokemon game since HGSS got annoyed by it.
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>>521543867
dang I did not, time to run it back
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I can't wait for the vision in chapter 4 of Ashley giving 2 dollar sucky sucky (those parlors do NOT stop at handjobs) and eventually getting addicted to drugs and human trafficked
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>>521544591
which sports team owners are getting the ashley special
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>>521543550
I wonder if we are going to get a white vision making fun of the "he should have fucked her right then and there" people.
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>>521544797
That would have been a bad move but it's not obviously completely retarded like trusting R*nee.
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I need more happy pictures like this so bad.
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>>521544352
>>521544423
Ok my bad been a while and i'm a little retarded but they weren't friends
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>>521545386
Same here. Decay gave us plenty of pain, give us the cute
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>>521545632
...why are you outright denying what the game tells you?
Ashley considered her friends, the game says as such IN HER OWN MINDSCAPE.
First you insist upon a retarded misconstruance, and even atfer realising you're wrong, you still insist upon it, for what? because you can't change your mind even when you know you're wrong?
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>>521545380
>>521544797
I'm okay with being called a retard if we get that vision
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>>521545824
Even in the picture they're looking away from eachother. She was "friends" with Nina too
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>>521544797
It would be really funny. I can already imagine Renee busting into the room screaming at them to shut the fuck up with the two mid plow leading into both of them kicked out and something even more unlucky happening to the both of them.
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>>521546064
No, that picture says "classmates".
Nina bullied her and Ashley got her killed for it(maybe accidentally).
Ashley considered Julia her friend, she mentions as such sometimes, and the poster says so in her mindscape.
Stop coping already.
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You know that very likely Nemnems is not going to give us a "cute" ending where the siblings get happily married or whatever? Even if they survive it's going to be something either insane or bittersweet.
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I'm deadass learning about the female body from this game.
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>>521541718
>even fucking Julia
this implies she's the last option
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My biggest fear is that Andrew and Ashley do something terrible to Julia in the Burial route.
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>>521546546
>Nemnems is not going to give us a "cute" ending where the siblings get happily married or whatever?

Anon it could not be more obvious that she will do exactly that.
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>>521546660
So if she's not having her period, does that mean she's been holding onto the eggs? Does that make her more fertile?
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>>521546741
She's dead meat
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Is Andrew really a sociopath?
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>>521546546
Define "bittersweet", anon.

Divelethion ends with Lynn happy, either if he kills his brother or runs away with him, he becomes an outcast either way, but he's happy, and it's bittersweet.
Better Half, Thiu either merges back and fixes his depression and becomes accepted, but he misses sad thiu, other main ending being he marries himself, is happy, but becomes an outcast and dies at 40 due to halved timespan.
Noelle either gives up her ambitions for becoming second fiddle to Ivy, but she does fix things with her and becomes accepted, OR, she realizes Ivy was shitty to her, falls for Yule, fulfils her ambitions, starts living for herself at the cost of becoming a nuisance to her community together with her husband.
Nemlei has a way of doing happy/cute endings which are still bittersweet in what the chraracters give up for it, namely social acceptance.
Andrew choosing happy marriage with Ashley at the cost of acceptance and leaving behind his longing for normal life would be bittersweet too.
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>>521542174
>it's the dad's fault (who was most of the time trying to provide for the family) the mom was not a better mom
cmon now
>>521543676
One would even say... devilish
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>>521546741
My biggest fear is the
>Don't trust him, trust the trinket
>Just so you know: This will NOT turn out the way you think it will
>skull appears when you enter incest doors now
retcons in Burial
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>>521546546
Considering all her other games it's likely she will dive us a ''cute'' ending in some way, even if it's a dead end of some sort
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>>521546546
I mean literally all she has to do is add a tinge of "history is doomed to repeat itself" to keep it from being *completely* saccharine.
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>>521546717
I'm just saying that she was in an awful relationship with no dedicated star crossed lover
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>>521547092
There's a reason that men usually lead, it's because women are stressed out from having to be everything, as we can clearly see that Renee buckled under the pressure and took out her resentment on her kids.
Douglas is chronically depressed and has 0 energy to either parent them to ease the load for Renee or give her a leading example.
Worse still, he actively tells her that for him it's enough, and they're doing fine.
Douglas didn't lead, he didn't ease the burden, he didn't challenge Renee, he coddled her, despite what we see, that she normally would've had semblance of a better judgement.
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>>521546981
>Define "bittersweet", anon.
It's a bittersweet SYMPHONY, THAT'S LIFE. TRY TO MAKE ENDS MEET, YOU'RE A SLAVE TO MONEY, THEN YOU DIE
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>>521547239
Pretty sure Nemlei wants to say that dealing with the ''decay'' head on is more healthy than ''burying'' their problems away
>>521546741
Going by what happened in Decay so far, i think she will be fine. At most Ashley will suggest killing Julia, whom Andrew will agree, creeping Ashley out in the process. This will make Ashley back out from that
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>>521546741
That's my biggest hope
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>>521546906
No.
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>>521546906
No, he's a psychopath
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>Andy is so pathetic that the campers don't really think he was banging Ashley and that leads to a completely different scene if you introduce her as your cousin.
Stuff like this makes me feel like I missed a ton of dialogue
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wait a second which route is supposed to have more incest?
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>>521547239
That's just set up for Burial being about Ashley's trust issues than Andrew's normie issues. I also doubt that questionable wouldn't be the main focus
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>>521548201
Yes
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>>521547949
foul demon
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>>521546741
She survived Decay, she's 100% surviving Burial
Total Floozy life
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>>521548252
I think Questionable locks you in a bad path, where Ashley continues to ignore their problems and ensnares Andrew with sex as their disfunctions grow and they become more depraved, while Sane is her making a change to be more self-reflective on how she was possessive, and trying to give him more freedom, which I assume will be about Ashley trying to detox them to try and be less unhinged.
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there are grime souls and tar souls, but are there other ranks of souls?
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>>521548201

The Decay and Burial will both have lots of incest but it's the context that changes. One is the incest being used by Ashley to control Andrew. The other is sweet, mutual love incest. Plus for procreation.
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>>521548739
>One is the incest being used by Ashley to control Andrew
thats burial btw
>The other is sweet, mutual love incest. Plus for procreation
thats decay (cliffhanger) btw
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>>521548567

Tar soul, not yet hatched tar soul, grime soul and innocent soul.
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>>521548832
I think it can be both for both.
In shots and such, they use it both as a power move, while cliffhanger is more about love.
Same probably applies to questionable and sane.
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How can some people copy Nemlei art so flawlessly
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Inb4 Burial is actually sadder than Decay and we've all been taken on Nemlei's wild ride
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>>521546906
Let's consult the establishment and see.
>A pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
>1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviours, as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
>2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
>3. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
>4. Irritability or aggressiveness, indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
>5. Reckless disregard for the safety of others
>6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behaviour or honour financial obligations
>7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalising having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
>The individual is at least age 18 years
>There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years
>The occurrence of antisocial behaviour is not exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder

And that's a failure. He fails to consistently demonstrate at least 3 symptoms since the age of 15. He was also extremely well-behaved child.
But what is Andrew then? Let's look at the differential diagnosis section.
>Criminal behaviour not associated with a personality disorder:
>Antisocial personality disorder must be distinguished from criminal behaviour undertaken for gain that is not accompanied by the personality features characteristic of the disorder. Only when antisocial personality traits are inflexible, maladaptive, and persistent and cause significant functional impairment of subjective distress do they constitute antisocial personality disorder.
Well look at that. It appears Andrew is a fully functional human being, whose behaviour is very well adapted to his environment and causes no dysfunction or distress.

Diagnosis: Neurotypical
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>>521549024
One reason her character art is so effective is because it's relatively simple, and relatively easy to imitate.

I wish these threads made more hussiesonas.
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>>521546953
the bitch that spread rumors and that leyley bit when they were kids
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>>521546428
He's bringing her to the balcony
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>>521549907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDmN2f3HI0
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>>521549796
is there a guide? lmao
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>>521549796
>pointy ears
>full red eyes
the fuck is that ???
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>>521520674
>I can't explain why but I can't stop myself from picturing Jane as a black woman
It's all coming together. Julia and Jane are half-sisters.
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>>521550817
>ChatGPT Image Apr 13, 2025, 08_31_26 AM.png
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>>521550765
Hussy Sprite
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>>521550890
Does she create artisanal hussies
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>>521550823
>>521525020
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>>521526852
>says this in english
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>>521550629
If you pick up any "How To Draw Manga" book from the bookstore and work really hard at it, you can probably make a pretty decent approximation of Nelmei's artstyle in a few months.
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>>521546906
He cares about Ashley, just no one else.
So he's clearly capable of empathy he's just extremely selective about it.
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i wonder if the reason Andrew thinks of friend B as friend B and not by his real name is because while he pretends to be friends with him, he doesn't appreciate him speaking negatively about Ashley.
So Andrew knows that Friend B would never really be his actual friend, so he doesn't bother with the name.
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>>521529795
Zoomers are the ones who voted to delay it. In the Ep1 era the fanbase was older and voted to release Ep2 pronto.
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>>521551321
>he doesn't appreciate him speaking negatively about Ashley.
Friend B is the one who stands up for him. In the lunchroom scene, there's optional dialogue where Friend A suggests punching Ashley but Friend B just talks to andrew about the card game
He's a bro
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>>521551281
Psychopaths usually pick a target to obsess over
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>>521551502
he's a Bro to Andrew, but he does frequently remark that he thinks Ashley has few screws loose, etc.
I think that's the part that largely dissapoints Andrew in Friend B, he accepts Andrew's facade, but given how he reacts to Ashley, Andrew knows he wouldn't accept Andrew for who he is, and he's probably also not amused by his remarks towards Ashley.

I think that's what makes Andrew not really see him as a real friend, thus he doesnt register as a name to him.
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>>521532707
>Even without the incest It would look really bad on her for both of her children, one being underage, to run away together
Siblings move out together all the time
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>>521546906
>>521551281
Nemlei said they don't have cookie cutter mental disorders like that
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>>521551502
>Friend A suggests punching Ashley
wtf
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>>521551835
So why does Andrew dislike everyone but Ashley?
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>>521551812
>he does frequently remark that he thinks Ashley has few screws loose, etc.
But she does, and Andrew knows that. Even in the lunchroom scene, Andy isn't pleased to see Leyley
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>>521551975
becaues its a female fetish
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>>521551987
You calling someone you care about a wacko, vs someone else calling a person you care about a wacko, are different things.

Not to mention, it also shows to Andrew Friend B only likes Andrew's facade, not real him.
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>>521551892
Interact with him in the lunchroom scene. He says if Leyley was his sister, he'd have punched her lights out
>>521551975
Some people are anti-social and easily irritated. I don't like anybody except my brother, and sometimes I don't even like him. However, I'm still a totally well-adjusted and normal individual
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>>521534381
They came awfully close
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>>521552249
He was 20/21 at the time, and Ashley was 18/19.
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>>521552176
So his anti-social behaviour is just pathological? Can't say I understand that feeling.
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>>521552176
>I'm still a totally well-adjusted and normal individual
Anyone who uses this site is by default not normal or well-adjusted.
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>>521526234
This is how you know a woman wrote it, Ashley would rather see her man become a wife beater than show weakness.

Also, the mop scenes.
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>>521526234
That's not ick, it's utter confusion. Literally "when the hell did I do that?"
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>>521530020
>>521534086
artist? Jhonen Vasquez is GOATed btw, if anyone hasn't read johnny the homocidal maniac I highly rec it. pure cynical kino
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Funny how even a manwhore like Andrew lost his virginity at a later age than his slutty mother.
Ashley is an actual saint for reaching her 20 during the 90s while staying completely pure.
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Isn't older kids helping take care of their siblings actually a normal and healthy thing?
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>>521553078
help, not raise themselves
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>>521548528
In Questionable, Andrew and Ashley are more open with each other. Ashley indirectly forces Andrew to have a discussion about his feelings about her. Andrew is already experiencing some growth as he stopped having so many nightmares. Plus it even hints at Ashley's trust issues since she thinks about using sex so he'll stay with her when she realizes using the trinket for that is starting to not work

In Sane, Andrew continues having nightmares and Ashley says that Andrew is back to normal as always. Andrew isn't forced to confront his feelings and Ashley isn't looking for alternative ways to keep Andrew around since Andrew never used the trinket with her.

Being less unhinged and more "sane" even when it goes against what would make you happy is what Andrew thinks should happen and he's getting mind fucked for it. If anything, Sane would be the bad route since all the development Andrew and Ashley could have potentially went through is undone and it's back to the status quo
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>>521552852
in fact the wife beater ending is the favorite between the female players
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>>521553078
Yes, but the issue here is that Andrew wasnt just helping. Or atleast that's what the narrative is trying to say
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>>521553078
it isn't normal and healthy when your parents force you to raise them in their stead
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>>521552343
>He was 20/21 at the time
That was a high school flashback. Andrew would've been 18 at the most
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>>521553078
speaking as the youngest of 5 siblings, HAH, no.
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>>521552358
I guess. I mean, Renee doesn't seem to care about anyone except Douglas. Some people are just like that
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>>521553039
>slutty mother
she literally married the guy
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>>521553078
One of my colleagues was a brotherdad to his younger brother; he enlisted to kill people.
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>>521553725
A succubus who seduced a poor future lawyer and ruined his life
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>>521553830
i wasnt and i did that too
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>>521553867
no Anon Douglas was saved from a lifetime of lawyering
do lawyers seem happy to you?
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>>521553867
I hate Nemlei for reminding me I picked a shit degree when I could've been a great lawyer
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>>521553039
Andrew isn't a manwhore, unless you're talking about him NTRing Ashley.
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>>521553947
Okay, that's not THAT rare, but this motherfucker was very enthusiastic about it.
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>>521553969
Why would you want to be a fucking lawyer. I can't imagine a more boring job.
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>>521553963
Did Douglas look happy to you? he was already contemplating suicide, it can't get any worse than that
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lawyers, journalists and politicians are demons on earth btw
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>>521554115
I am a boring person
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>>521554181
bagging groceries doesn't pay well and customers are insufferable but it's probably still more enjoyable than being a l*wyer
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>>521554115
Cash, money, dollah, moolah and riches.
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Coffin is set in Argentina actually
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>>521554115
I'm autistic about the common law
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I hate nemlei for reminding me I was born gay and have a 10/10 sister i could've fucked and impregnated
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>>521554464
>could've
You still can
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>>521554464
are you sure you're actually gay if you wrote a post like that?
are you sad that you're not attracted to your sister? are you enamored by the idea of incestuous romance but don't actually care about the sex? I'm intrigued.
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>>521554115
Better Call Saul
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>>521554268
Understandable.
>>521554394
It the monet worth wasting so much of your life on a boring shit like lawyering?
>>521554450
Even more understandable.
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>>521554312
It took 9 months working as a cashier to take my younger brother go from a ball of happiness to suicidally depressed.
Anything that involves customer service is hell on earth.
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>>521554664
gays can think girls are pretty same as straight men can think other guys are handsome
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>>521554464
And the award of "The Most Retarded Post of the Thread" goes to...
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>>521554664
>are you enamored by the idea of incestuous romance
oddly I am but not for any brother or male cousin in my family, only my sister

I have zero sexual interest in other women
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>>521523553
Didn't even realize this got updated until now.
>Released Episode 3: Decay (part 1/2)
So is the next release gonna be Burial or Decay part 2?
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>>521554736
>It the monet worth wasting so much of your life on a boring shit like lawyering?
NTA (I am the boring one) but is any job really worth it? I can't imagine actually enjoying working. So at that point, it's all about getting the biggest paycheck
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>>521554923
>Delphic radiation only known cure for homosexuality
Axe the shock therapy, no more turning fruits into vegetables, get these fags some sisters, STAT!
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>>521554923
Andrew...
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>>521554956
Decay part 2 (Burial is never coming out)
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>>521554956
Decay part 2
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A gay guy playing this game is the largest pile of bullshit I have ever seen.
This is a game for straight women and some weird straight men with questionable tastes.
There is nothing for the gays here.
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>>521554923
Wtf
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>>521555328
agree
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>>521555328
>>521555107
Andrew is a cum guzzler (canon)
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>>521555004
A job can be fulfilling, and I can't imagine lawyering ever coming close to that.
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>>521555328
Shut UP femcel
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The only jobs worth having are the ones that pay the most so you can buy nice stuff for your sister.
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>>521555328
>some weird straight men with questionable tastes
Oh yeah the weird questionable tastes of
>cute brocon bratty goth girl with short shorts
>loyal wife that is deeply in love with her low energy husband
>cute loyal submissive church girl
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>>521555328
Stfu whore, don't slander my gaybro.
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>>521555328
I came for the andy and stayed hoping to find some works of him and friend B doing boy things
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I want a vision of Andrew experimenting with Friend B sexually and i'm tired of pretending i don't
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TCOAAL but it's Scream. Julia is the Final Girl. Andrew and Ashley share the Ghostface identity. Nina gets killed in the opening scene of the movie.
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>>521555649
By weird tastes I meant dark toxic romances, I don't know a ton of other dudes who admit liking something like this.
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>>521555471
>A job can be fulfilling
Technically, you're right. But practically, doesn't every job slowly kill you? Does anybody TRULY enjoy working?
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>>521555328
Is wanting a relationship with your blood-related sister really that questionnable?

>>521555868
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>>521556040
>Is wanting a relationship with your blood-related sister really that questionnable?
Of course it is, you shouldn't *want* it, you should already have it!
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>>521555797
>>521555831
BASED BASED BASED BASED
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>>521555797
>>521555831
what the
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>>521555982
>Does anybody TRULY enjoy working?
The Hun.
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>>521555881
Dark toxic romances are all I've known so I'm naturally attracted to them.
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>>521555881
I honestly cannot believe that this game made me think abusive relationships can be romantic.

wtf is wrong with women
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>>521555839
>Surprise, Julia!
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>>521555328
Lord Unknown and Andrew are right there. Unknown just needs a human form and there we go
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>>521555881
>>521556286
Shoujo make the best romance animanga for a reason
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>>521556286
>wtf is wrong with women
Women retain a soul-bearing honesty that comes through in their romantic writings
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>>521556510
LU is obviously the mom Andrew wishes Renee was.
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>>521555982
Every action we take leads us closer to the grave, and really, is the eventual death something we should actually be afraid of?
>Does anybody TRULY enjoy working?
Workaholics exist, I know some personally.
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>>521555328
women and gay men literally play the same shit what are you talking about
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>>521556286
>>521556562
Basically this. All those bad boy rapey love interest with the sweet innocent girl. Woman love that shit all across the world.
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>>521555797
Based yaoichad
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>>521556286
I couldnt do it man. Id feel nothing but guilt and all I would want, if I genuinely love her, is to get the fuck as far away from me as you possibly can because if I did it one ill probably do it again. Meanwhile women be like 'we can work through it' but thats a stain man. You aint scrubbing that out.

Unless the oat cookies are good then maybe.
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>>521555881
Because of course men won't read the usual ''dark toxic romance'' books like WHEN THE SIDE NIGGA CATCHES FEELINGS

But there are plenty of manga like A&A
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>>521525020
Dude I wanna grab Julia
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>>521556707
They have different tastes, same way men and lesbians don't enjoy the same things.
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>>521556562
Not all shoujo is like that.
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>>521556626
I once read a yuri VN, everything felt too cute and cuddly and it was quite boring, I suspected it was written by a man and after digging through the credits my suspicions were confirmed.
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Woman see bad boys, and be like I can fix him!
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>>521556971
Most are
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>>521556640
Or he could be the dad he hoped Douglas would be
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>>521557172
I'm no saviorfag, I like them how they are
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Dumb little thing I made based off the idea that getting all the stars will unlock a "true ending" or some such.

Even though this is based off Sonic Adventure 2 I could only imagine this song for a big Super A&A vs. Lord Unknown fight
https://youtu.be/KiLIMwVYwIw
I'm not autistic I swear
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>>521557379
>I'm not autistic I swear
are you sure? are you really sure?
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>>521557112
iirc yaoi and yuri are mostly made for people of the opposite gender who fetishise same gender romances.
There are proper terms for homosexal romances made for homosexual people but I don't recall what it was.
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>>521556286
Ashley is the most realistically written woman in modern fiction.
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>>521557379
>Ashley is going to fall, get amnesia, and become friends with a Robot
KINO
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>>521557471
>are you sure? are you really sure?
no
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>>521557379
>Adios, Ashley Graves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtTVJPe3f4E
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>>521557379
>that revolver
good work tho
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>>521557531
Bara is yaoi written by men, BL yaoi is written by fujoshi straight women
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>>521557379
>I'm not autistic I swear
Brother, this is the most autistic shit I've seen in a while. But speaking as a fellow Sonic fan, I like the SA2 like panels.
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>>521557890
>>521557379
pure cinema. Pure fucking cinema. This game reminds me of the era. Decay is PURE Dawning of Darkness energy.
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>>521557379
...how old are you? This is an 18+ site you know.
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I'm not gay but Andy's a cutie patootie.
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>Ashley Graves game
>It has 10 normal endings, 1 True Ending, and 326 Routes of Schizo Nonsense
>Also, Ashley tries to kill the President shooting his escape plane
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>>521558224
I'm not gay but i think Andrew is ugly
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>>521557379
>>521558152
If I had nickel for every Sonic x Coffin crossover fanart I'd have two nickels.
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>>521558367
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>>521558152
>Dawning of Darkness
Fuck, memory unlocked
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>>521558276
>Ashley tries to kill the President shooting his escape plane
The trailer is looking good https://files.catbox.moe/hqkmxx.mp4
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>>521558276
>Ashley guilt ending where she thinks she never should have been born
>"DON'T GO THERE... YET!"
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>>521557957
Oh yeah I struggled enough on the posing for Decay as it is, I couldn't be assed to draw a gun lol
>>521558214
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>>521558276
https://youtu.be/hjXMr4cMxfw?si=TgovX6tCHFdoJvDP
>Somewhere in the chaos we all find ourselves
>This destruction is the only tale we tell
>White is black, and black is white
>Right is wrong, and wrong is right
>Nothing ever fills this hole inside your heart
Why is Ashley so Shadow-coded despite being nothing alike personality-wise?
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>>521558418
>>521558367
>>521558152
>>521557379
there is nothing that warms my heart quite like seeing Coffin and 2000s culture squished together

you know if this was released back in 2005 the Internet would have gone apeshit, they'd be selling merchandise of this game in Hot Topic, Congress would try to get it banned
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>>521558276
>the ending where Ashley becomes the ultimate demon
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>>521557379
You know, people talk about killing Julia in the burial path but I don't think that is what will happen.
Sending her a movie with the two happy fucking and Andrew confessing that Ashley is so much better than Julia is way more likely in my imagination.
Just send her the left box with an "I win" caption would be a stronger power move than murdering a weak little woman.
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>>521558812
>you know if this was released back in 2005
No one would know of its existance really
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>>521556286
This ending just made me depressed. I blame Julia
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>>521558812
Coffin feels like a game that deserved to be an icon of 2008 era AMVs and forum culture
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>>521558868
I can imagine it being popular on Newgrounds.
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Sonic and autism is 90% of the time directly related to eachother
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>>521558883
I hope Andrew recovers quickly from his SA
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Where is the pubic hair chart?
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>>521558826
I think Julia living is a sign something has changed in the siblings relationship
either Ashley has learned to be less insecure and not ask for her death or Andrew learns to do every little thing for Ashley and tells her no
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>Julia: Hey, Ashley! Long time no see! Looks like the black foreigners really mean business! Let's you and me show them a thing or 2!
>Ashley: Disgusting Black Foreigners, get out of my sight!
>A Rank!
>Ashley: Hmph, Perfect!
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>>521559082
from his WHAT???
Yes I know what you meant this is a joke
>>521559305
Andrew probably doesn't shave. Ashley shaves infrequently so she usually has stubble. I could see Julia being either way but being smooth shaven fits her cutesy girly girl image. Renee full mom bush obv.
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>>521558935
I'm surprised i haven't seen a 240p Windows Movie Maker AMV with MCR music on Youtube yet.
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>>521559591
>Renee full mom bush obv.
THEY PULLED POUNDS OF HAIR FROM THE SHOWER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>521558826
>people talk about killing Julia in the burial path but I don't think that is what will happen.
Yeah me too but the rest of your post sounds too fanfic-ish
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How would Julia react if you (her boyfriend) asked to lick her armpits?
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Julia will outlive the incestuous criminals
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>>521559591
sounds accurate
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>>521549503
>Diagnosis: Neurotypical
Personally I would just call him an asshole.
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>>521560031
Julia will cry and plant flower on the siblings Graves.
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I have a feeling everyone here was raised by single moms
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>>521560207
kino
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Is there anything that would make Julia break up with you on the spot?
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>>521560207
She definitely doesn't use deodorant.
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>>521560027
She would nervously let you lick them while whispering that God is watching
She would also want to do it again
>>521560275
You would be wrong, my parents are still married going for 40 years now
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>>521559329
I think Julia living will have less to do with Andrew and more with whatever caused their complicated relationship before he was involved.
We have way too much conflicting information about their relationship but it does seen that Ashley already held contempt for Julia long before learning that her crush was Andrew.
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>>521560325
make a satanic ritual maybe
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>>521556640
I like to imagine that in her human life LU was a voluptuous black momma. You know the sort. The sort to make white boys waver and secretly think about plapping, even though he tells his friends he'd never touch a black girl.
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Reminder andy keeps clock of his sisters antarctic waterfall
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>>521559819
Sending a video or a photo is unrealistic but a call boasting about it feels like a very Ashley thing to do in a non-murder path.
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>>521560275
Joke's on you, I was raised by a single dad!
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>>521560940
So like what happened in Decay?
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>>521560764
>Julia wont allow me to summon demons in her dorm
high maintenance bitch
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>>521560791
Andrew is gonna pump that BBW negress full of cum in episode 4 while ashley watches
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>>521561060
Did you turn out fucked up?
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>Andrew: I think, Jullia, that we've...lost touch.
>Julia: Why? What's wrong?
>Andrew: My need to engage in homicidal behavior on a massive scale
cannot be, um, corrected, but I have no other way to fulfill
my needs.
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>>521561637
I'm good now, but yeah. Being raised by a single parent is usually not good for people. My sister was raised by mom who was a revolving door of "boyfriends" so she learned how to just hide inside of her room 24/7 while I was raised by a bitter macho faggot overcompensating for the fact that he married a cheating whore, and that made me who I am too. Basically, the ideal is having two healthy siblingparents.
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>>521561851
Did your father have sex with a, you know? Or are you a different anon?
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>>521561935
My father was pretty good about compartmentalizing, and was also outstandingly racist, so I assume not. And no, I hold no love for hussies, I'm all about sisters.
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>>521561851
seems like you and your sister would make the perfect couple
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>>521562187
I think this is the Anon who has not done anything that may violate state or federal law
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>>521561851
Please tell me you did not fuck your sister
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>>521562258
How the fuck do you people do this goddamn?
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>>521556286
Splat ending is going to be rent free in my head for a good while. Seeing them act like Andy and Leyley in the end only because they've both completely given up is miserable as hell. I'm happier with the ending of them inbreeding and being functionally dysfunctional
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>>521562335
NTA but I'm glad it's not just me that it happens to
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>>521562258
who
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>>521562801
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>>521562868
so he did fucked his sister?
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>>521563064
No, that'd be illegal in the state I'm in so I would NEVER do that, we're just completely best friends forever that cuddle with ALL of our clothes on in the same bed.
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>>521562718
Nobody remembers my blogposts! I'm constantly paranoid people can recognize my typing style though. That's how I clocked >>521561851
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>>521563145
hot
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>>521563182
I only recognize the SV-fag here
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>There are anons ITT that have gotten with their sisters
How did you do it guys? I wish I could marry mine
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>>521560791
LU didn't have a human life. His dad was a demon and his mom was a snow fleshlight
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>>521563447
The Nemleiverse is real and NemNems was trolling when she deconfirmed it.
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>>521563145
stop being a fag and just tell us the story already
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>>521563447
>LU didn't have a human life
Aren't all the entities former human souls?
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>>521540686
>3B has been in the works for about 2 months now?
You mean 4?
But 4 should have been in development for 6 months, not 2, since it was already ready for release in October by the time the first vote wrapped up.
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>>521563717
No, I'd really rather talk about the game, and desu I don't want to give out the intimate details which is why I generally avoid the topic. You can use your imagination, it's probably more exciting than me trying to awkwardly describe our completely platonic lifestyle in euphemisms.
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>Julia learning Andrew died
>Julia thinking she caused Andrew to kill himself
>Julia cutting herself
>Julia vowing to never falling in love again
>Julia hallucinating Andrew and Ashley haunting her
>Julia getting checked into a mental hospital
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>>521563378
>How did you do it guys?
By getting no sex-ed until way too late, finding a porn mag and copying what we saw while having no idea what it was and why we shouldn't do it with a family member.
It's not even a happy memory, just an shameful memory over how retarded we were.
Don't fucking wait until 14 before teaching your kids about sex, they will do dumb shit while blind.
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>>521563978
fag
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Wicked that Nemlei made this canon
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>>521560275
I didn't have any at all lol
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Not to be crass, but I NEED to cum balls deep inside Julia's sopping wat vagina as her voice fills the air
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>>521564206
>wat
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>>521564206
I don't think I understand what you're saying.
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>>521564206
Gross
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>>521564181
Shots and Such and then Some
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>>521564007
>Julia hallucinating Andrew and Ashley haunting her

https://rentry.org/m5omsnoy
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>>521563781
Maybe some but not all. It's just Andrew's theory that the "demons" are just cannibals. Lord Unknown is Yule and Noelle's child
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>>521563378
we were on the pool and i rubbed her pussy when i was like 12 and she was like 10 and she told me to stop and everytime i think about this i want to stick a screwdriver on my neck and rip it out
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>>521564454
Real
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>>521564236
>>521564265
I said that I NEED to sink my hands into Julia's soft skin and pin her to the bed with my body weight as I cum so hard it makes my body shake and start to hiccup as I fill her womb meanwhile her pussy is so wet it's been leaving stains on the bed for several minutes
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>>521564431
>Lord Unknown is Yule and Noelle's child
Anon...
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>>521564552
Anon, stop speaking in fucking riddles!

>>521564593
I'm going to repeat this until I metaphorically turn blue in the face: you can't take every response Nemlei made in that post 100% seriously.
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>Andrew and Ashley destroy themselves horrifically in all possible routes due to working for Satan (Lord Unknown)
>Julia is the only one with a genuine good ending, finding a loving husband and starting a family, due to following Christ
>TCOAAL is actually Catholic propaganda
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>>521564552
I wasn't confused by the meaning of what you said. You just made a funny typo.
I am confused by the fact that someone could be attracted to such a shitty character, however.
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>>521564552
What did he meant by this?
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>>521564654
Yeah but in the all-stars ending they actually find the Christ and move to Alabama.
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>>521564654
>"And even if we uncovered some grand scheme, what then?"
>"Will God Almighty descend from the heavens to pardon our sins for being such good snitches??"
In Burial, God will come down and bring redemption to Andrew and Ashley for exposing the demonic plot.
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>>521564652
>you can't take every response Nemlei made in that post 100% seriously
Finns are incapable of lying.
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>>521564672
It's called testosterone, seems like you're running low on it
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>>521564887
The Finngolian knows only suomi and snu-snu
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>>521564593
Nemlei is just trying to keep the surprise a surprise
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>>521564992
High-test men prefer lithe, busty sisters who behave bratty and challenge them to correct their buttholes with their brotherdicks, not meek cutters who give toothy blowjobs.
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>>521565301
>busty
debunked
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>>521564593
You've seen standard cope, now get ready for the advanced stuff
>Is TCOAAL related to any other games
This does not necessarily mean that NGN and Coffin do not take place in the same universe. TCOAAL being RELATED to another game and TCOAAL being in the same universe as another are not synonymous. The first statement only means that Coffin doesn't have any immediate influences.
>Is there a shared universe your games take place in
"Your games" refers to ALL of Nemlei's games. IIRC, nobody was saying all of them took place in the same universe. However, SOME games could still take place in the same universe.
Ergo, THE NEMLEIVERSE IS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
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"Smaller than advertised"
"PP be big"
How much of this do you think was Nemlei trying to impact the way people make porn of them?
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>>521565465
I honestly think Nemlei was fucking with people for asking such retarded questions.
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I'm sorry, Doug but I don't give a fuck
If this chick was my own mother, I'd still fuck her with no rubber
And cum inside her and have a son and a new brother
At the same time and just say that it ain't mine—what's my name?
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>>521565450
AND THIS. IS. TO COPE. EVEN. FURTHER. BEYOND.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>521559329
Julia almost got murdered in Shots and Such for wanting a drink from the fridge. There's a good possibility that Julia will accidentally find out that Andrew and Ashley are stealing souls then they're forced to kill her or steal hers too
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>>521565637
>>>/reddit/
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>>521565637
Gross
Total Mom Death
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>>521565301
Imagine not wanting to privately, intimately draw out a cute, loving, timid Christian girl's inner hussy and have wild passionate babymaking sex with her and calling anyone else low test
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>>521564409
>So cutely. And yet so hussily.
cute
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>>521565901
Yeah nah, rather be balls-deep in some delphic dumpy and pull her ponytail the way she likes it.
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>>521564652
>>521564672
>>521564708
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO FUCK JULIA!
I want to fuck her HARD. I want to hear her moan and squeeze her soft body and make her feel so good she can't even remember her own name. I want to grab her by the hips and rail her until she's screaming my name. I want to feel her slippery wet pussy and her inside walls and hear the sloppy wet noises of our pelvises slamming together. I want to smell and lick every square inch of her sexy body. I want to push against her cervix and unload a torrent of cum that makes my legs give out as I collapse on top of her
I want to FUCK Julia
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>>521565301
>lithe
Not if architectdrew has anything to say about it!
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>>521565301

True high test men want to fuck Julia while their sisters watch. Then they fuck their jealous sisters once Julia leaves.
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>>521565992
Well there's no accounting for taste I guess.
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>>521565642
Thanks for picking up on the reference.
Regardless, that message does not disprove the theory that ??? is Noelle and Yule's baby on top of Thiu living in the same apartment as the Graves
The Nemleiverse is BACK
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>>521566120
Any man who wants multiple woman is a man who secretly fucking hates himself.
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Anyone feels extremely uncomfortable with Andrew beating Ashley? Not in a "lol that's crazy" way, but in a this is genuinely disgusting kinda way. I can't tolerate the character of Andrew anymore in this chapter, I feel he's ruined, out-of-character trash that is pathetic. And it makes me question the whole point of this shit forced route down our throats. It surprises me people are just accepting that Andrew is a faggot who beats his sister now.
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>>521566103

Ah, a fellow King of culture.
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>>521566305
That really disturbed me too, and i hate how many female fans are like
>Woaw so hot
it's really fucking dark, even for this game
A testament to the writing that the most disturbing thing is plain old domestic abuse
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>>521566305
I don't like it. Ashley (mentally Leyley) might be a bitch, and hell she might even deserve to get her shit slapped, but at the end of the day she's a terrified and vulnerable girl at her core and is cute, both of which makes me viscerally disgusted with the idea of actually abusing her.
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>>521566279

I've had multiple women and it is not fun at all. They all want to the center of attention and your number one girl.

Andrew was doomed from the start.
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>>521555328
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>Andrew: Oh, Julia. If only there was someone. out there who loved you.
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>>521566305
>>521566475
>>521566562
Remorseless serial killer
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>>521566419
Stop it! I am NOT a fatfag! Stop doing this to me!
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>>521566825
Illiterate mouth-breathing tarskin.
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>>521566732
Jane loves Julia
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>>521566825
So? My sister could do pretty much anything and I'd still have her back, retard.
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>>521566732
I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE
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>>521566983
Let it be known that all who love sisters are my brothers in arms.
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>>521566825
Andrew is a monster and I hate him
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God damn it sucks to be an only child
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>>521567301
Julia's happiness is worth far more than Andrew or Ashley's
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>>521567301
Andrew dying is the best outcome.
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>>521567394
The game started off with me hating Ashley and assuming she was by far the worse one but this has made me go from thinking they're equally bad to him being the worse one. She's alot more up front and truthful than he is, and there are far fewer instances of her ever hurting him than vice versa. Even when the demon outright says he's gonna kill her or burn the trinket she refuses to side against him.
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Just launched the game for the first time since I finished Ep 1 last year. Do I really need to restart all 8 hours of gameplay to play the new stuff
waht do
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>>521566475
No matter how much thought I give it there's just so many red flags that the story is turning in one of these dark romance books you see in Amazon with a cover of half naked sweaty muscular man grabbing a woman by the neck and beating her. The whole bullshit about the game being for "women who enjoy true crime" is getting a somber tone in my mind, when I just thought it was a silly joke when I read it. I would be fine with some BDSM, Andrew fucking Ashley hard, but this is plain emotional abuse. My reaction to seen Ashley beaten is physical revulsion, and I would be very surprised if other people in the fandom don't feel exactly the same way and haven't speak up yet. Aren't at least half or more of the fans of the game men? Is psychologically impossible for men to see a woman beaten and don't feel a negative reaction. Let alone a woman you're supposed to protect like Ashley is to Andrew.
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>>521567606
Episode 1 is like 10 minutes when you fast forward the dialogue
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>>521567606
If it's been that long you may as well restart anyway. Just remember to make lots of saves and don't give Andrew the batteries.
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>>521567606
Anon how the fuck did Episode 1 take you 8 hours
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>>521567715
He got filtered by the puzzles in Episode 1. Luckily Episode 3 is much more streamlined.
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>>521567715
I like to really get into the dialogue.
>>521567689
Uhh fuck okay
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>>521567606
>Ep1
>8 hours
See you in 3 weeks!
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>>521567301
r/im15andthisisdeep
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>>521567662
I'll hold out hope because Nemlei isn't Japanese and thus can actually write an ending and Decay is the shitty route, anyway. I wonder how the writing would have gone if it never got too popular and had all the memes made about it. My clueless ass thought when only ep1 was out that incest would only ever be somewhat alluded to, not a front and center thing
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>>521567662
Andrew beating up Ashley was obviously written to be a bad thing
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>>521568206
>Decay is the shitty route
>report: this poster is a total pleb
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>>521566825
See, this is something I don't understand either. I know you're probably trolling but why suddenly the game wants us to think Ashley is the worst person in the word and we need to take The Moral Stance against her and accept her beatings, her cucking and her humiliations as if it was deserved? Every character in the game so far is morally questionable at best and morally corrupt at worst. Why Ashley is suddenly worse than Andrew? Why already forgot that he killed one of the wards out of jealously? I guess that's not going to get re-written because it twists the panties of a few female coomers.
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>>521567498
I hope Julia gets crushed by a piano
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>>521568307
Shut UP Julia
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>>521567301
>Julia crying tears of joy while Andrew is visibly depressed
I hate this pig nosed hussy so much
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>>521568392
The only thing getting crushed is her heart emotionally.
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>>521568245
It was? Why are we being forced to see two whole episodes of the same misery slop? Why are we being forced to play it first? Why is burial not even started and the supposedly bad ending is getting 2 if not more chapters? Something reeks here.
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>>521568791
I would suck the snot out of her nose
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>>521546660
I think it would mean that she hasn't been producing any eggs at all.

Ovulation only happens during a single day in a woman's cycle, in which they produce and release a single egg (tech8incally speaking the production of the egg probably occurs earlier but the day of ovulation is when it gets released into the wild ready to be sperm'd up). That egg will live for around 24 hours, after which it dies and becomes incapable of becoming fertilized.. Around 2 weeks after the day of ovulation, the body dos a check of sorts to see if you are pregnant or not, and if you aren't pregnant then you get your period as a way to "flush out" the baby making parts and clean it, preparing your body to ovulate again next cycle.

I think if she wasn't getting her period than she probably lacked the nutrients for her body to trigger baby making mode in the first place, being focused more on her own survival instead of producing eggs and preparing for reproduction.
Of course, I'm no expert on the matter.
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>>521569205
>producing any eggs at all
nigga ova aren't like sperm. Women don't regenerate more eggs
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>>521560325
Fuck your sister, for one
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>>521569205
Women are born with all the eggs they'll ever have though
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>>521568896
>Why are we being forced to see two whole episodes of the same misery slop?
Just ignore the misery endings and play cliffhanger
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>>521568791
Andrew literally wanted to knock Julia’s teeth out
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>>521568016
Everything in Decay exponentially increased how much I just want to give Ashley a hug.
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>>521569804
>Females are not capable of making new eggs, and in fact, there is a continuous decline in the total number of eggs each month. By the time a girl enters puberty, only about 25% of her lifetime total egg pool remains, around 300,000. Over the next 30-40 years of a female's reproductive life, the entire egg supply will be depleted.
You learn more every day I thought they the made eggs and lost the ability to make them.

So it is just a limited quantity and you only release one during ovulation which, I guess it is outside of the safe zone they are normally kept in, and if they don't get fertilized in that window then it either dies or goes somewhere else or something but eggs released from the ovaries can't become fertilized after around 2 days or so I believe so 48 hours in total from my memory.

That being said you seem to lose eggs through a number of factors and being malnourished for that period of time might have killed a number of Ashley's good eggs maybe?
Though clearly not enoug00h
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>>521570107
How do you not know this it's literally 10th grade biology. I'm a kissless virgin and even I know this
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>>521570017
>Play a cliffhanger or wait for your one (1) burial chapter in years
Wow, you're a genius Nemlei. Truly the mind that thinks retcons are good ideas.
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>>521570050
I am always amazed at people literally taking his word literally. It always seemed to me like one of those intrusive thoughts everyone has but would never act on. Obviously by that point in the story he's done a lot worse but I don't think he would actually harm Julia like that, just wouldn't fit into his good boy persona at all if things were going normally without the quarantine.
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>>521570442
nigga i don't have a clue how my own biology works, either
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>>521570794
Take your hope pills already
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>>521570820
>I don't think he would actually harm Julia like that
Andrew would snap eventually
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>>521571008
wouldn't you like him to you gooner
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drunk as fuck and i love incest
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>>521571123
That's not my fantasy; I fucking hate Andrew. if he married Julia she is getting beaten one day.
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>>521568337
I was baiting, but the more I think about it the less ironic it gets. Decay shows them both passing the moral event horizon and devolving into the worst possible versions of themselves. They kill the campers together, and Ashley helps ??? steal more people's souls no matter which route you take. The S&S version of Andrew shows he's no better or worse than her at this point in the story IMO, even in DA where he doesn't have a chance to act on it as much. I don't think Ashley turning out evil surprised anyone but Dindrew got his turn too.

Maybe this is supposed to be rock bottom before they start on some kind of redemption arc, like the guy who says they'll kill ??? and give all those people their souls back. If that's true cool, but as they are now I can't make myself feel very bad for either of them ending up in Shots and Such. If they're still remorseless murderhobos I don't think I'll be very happy to see things work out for them either.
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>>521571212
cue to your pussy dripping
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>>521571208
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>>521570890
>>521570107
Based, you're just like me ( retarded )
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>>521571376
I'm a bloke, I don't know what else to tell you. Andrew sucks.
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Why is it still so hard for people to accept that Andrew isn't a good person? Okay, in Episode 1 it's believable because you only see Ashley's perspective. Episode 2? You really shouldn't see him as a victim anymore. Episode 3A?? This fucker has no redeeming qualities.
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>>521572479
I love Andrew and want him to rape me
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Nemlei has set up such a perfect love story it's incredible
Both of these characters want to be the version of themselves that the other would fall in love with. Andrew needs to be a more confident, communicative, and ambitious person. Ashley needs to be a more stable, friendly, and rational person. Both love each other already but as we saw in Shots and Such, neither of them are ready for what they both want right now.
Obviously growing up doesn't happen overnight but I get the sense that in the happiest ending it'll be really satisfying to see these two realize more of their potential in such a mutually supportive relationship.
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>>521527474
Does anyone have screenshots of the exchange Andrew is referencing here? I remember his face when Leyley said something like
>I don't think you like everyone
Being really cute
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>>521527474
>>521573073
iirc this was the final arc of the highschool flashbacks right before quarantine
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>>521573204
The exchange I'm referring to was at Grandma's, it was when Andy was reading her a story
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>>521572479
As this anon >>521570820 I don't think he's a good person at all. Chapter 1 you could be forgiven that his actions were predicated by some sort of Ashley victim complex. Though it's not like there aren't a fuck ton of hints in 1. By chapter 2 the gloves are off and it's made pretty obvious in subtext by that point I'm pretty sure everyone in /calg/ figured it out except for a few holdouts that were deluding themselves. Decay just overtly reinforces it so there's no question.
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>>521572479
>>521572957
The duality of /calg/
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>>521572479
Andrew ISN'T a good person. Neither is Ashley. That's part of why they're in love
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if you try to kill Julia in burial there will be dead end where her bf self defenses A&A
pic related Julia's reaction
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>>521574459
least mentally ill juliafag
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>>521574724
its a spoiler
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>>521574459
>her bf
Me
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>>521575007
thats right, me
>>521574854
yeah but that one is the bj
thats why its showing the teeth too
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>>521574459
Her boyfriend will run away and Julia will realize in her last moments that he just wanted to fuck her. It will be ultimate despair.
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>>521571008
People are acting like there wasn’t a route in Decay dedicated to him beating Ashley (who he actually wanted) daily. Guaranteed he would’ve eventually gotten violent
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>>521575232
Debunked
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>>521575232
why would Nemlei make Julia suffer like that
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>>521549796
Fucking disgusting garbage. Get that out of my face, you dumb whore.
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>>521574459
Cute drawing desu
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>/tags/Renee%20Graves*s*Julia/works
>5 Works in Renee Graves/Julia
Now that's a ship out of nowhere.
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>>521575915
To teach a lesson.
Don't be like Julia.
Don't rely on Jane to protect you.
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>>521572479
>no redeeming qualities
Andrew has a ton of redeeming qualities.
So does Ashley.
They're just also literal fucking demons wearing people skin.
Great couple. Hope they love each other forever.
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>>521572479
>Why is it still so hard for people to accept that Andrew isn't a good person?
Because he is and everything he ever did was justified. Morality is fake and gay.
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Imagine if Andrew and Ashley had two cousins (1boy 1 girl siblings) in similar age who were tanned blonde?
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>>521577796
They would have to be Connie's kids then
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>>521576347
Honestly surprised I've never seen that ship until you mentioned now kek
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>>521577406
>Because he is
When he killed that kid?
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>>521578218
And leave the little cunt without parents? Don't be cruel.
And if you left the kid alive, well there you go. He's showing mercy.
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>>521578218
>Wanting to leave a kid orphaned and separate a family
You MONSTER.
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I still believe
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>>521578596
>>521578393
I wonder how he became a orphan
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>>521572479
>Ep1: Andrew kills in self defense
>Ep2: Andrew kills for vengeance
>Ep3: Andrew kills for convenience
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Andrew listening to Korn's Freak on a Leash on Repeat.
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>>521578694
His drug addict parents suddenly fell into a coma trying to get a bag of drugs
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>>521579080
>drug addict parents
they're also incestphobic
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What if Burial had a scene where instead of Andrew, Ashley is the one chained up but it's because they were doing some bondage and Andrew forgot the code?
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>>521577406
Why is he grime
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>>521579080
But they werent drug addicts and were actually killed though
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andrew must die
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Andrew must become mpreg with douchechads big cock
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Bro...
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>>521578218
Oh boo fucking hoo, whos going to miss him. Ashley said it best most people aren't worth crying over.
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>pink and green are prominent colors (show intro)
>Both have long names that include the main opposite protagonists names
>Both have evil third wheel (grim/???)
>Ditsy dumbass
>Smarter, brooding one
>Little adventures
Something tells me Nems grew up with this show, and thought perhaps they were siblings.
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It's such a fucking tragedy that Andrew had to push Ashley away.

Happiness was within reach. It was there. He didn't know what the consequences of his actions were. He was still uncertain. He thought he was just keeping the status quo. He regretted it immediately. He needs a second chance. Everything could be fixed if he just had a second chance.
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>>521581240
>It's such a fucking tragedy that Andrew had to push Ashley away.
Let's hope in Burial there's a chance for Ashley to actually come through like she was about to that night Andrew dreamt of her.
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>>521581240
Nah. Andrew is an irredeemable piece of shit and should kill himself and Ashley to put everyone out of misery.
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>>521581394
>and Ashley
No, give her a chance to be happy
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>>521581452
Ashley and Andrew have no definition of an existence independent of each other.
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>>521581568
ashley just wants someone to love her honestly and that's very possible without andrew constantly mindbreaking her
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>>521581394
>>521581452
Fags like you suck. Just let my goobers be happy and fuck and maybe have incest babies. Maybe after they become dream demons and get all nice and squishy with each other.
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>>521581705
Dumbfuck Leyley apologists forget who was the primary culprit behind leaving Nina in the trunk.
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Andrew is a good person for taking care of Leyley
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>>521581930
>primary culprit behind leaving Nina in the trunk
Uh, Andrew?
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>>521581930
muh trunk, who the hell can't survive a night in a box? I used to sleep nightshifts in a room that had an inch of soot and dust in it and never died. She was weak and was going to perish anyways. Ashley did nothing wrong.
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>>521581930
The elder, stronger sibling that promised his mother to take care of and watch out for his sister, not to let her do whatever she wants or let her hurt herself or others.
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Did grandpa beat Ashley or just Anders?
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Remaining plot predictions:
Decay Cliffhanger: splits off into 2 where Andrew and Ashley reject demons, or fight over it resulting in their deaths
Burial 'insane': Bonnie and Clyde esque revenge tour that features them fully embracing each other sexually with zero forethought or qualms. It's mutually beneficial because Andrew can live out his feelings, and Ashley gets his company. Ultimately ends in their deaths, demons in this section will be downplayed.
>Burial 'sane': Ashley and Andrew ultimately decide to leave everything in the past. Ashley mentally grows up and goes on to, "kill Leyley". Will probably include some dream sequences like in Decay Cliffhanger. Maybe has some drama with demons, maybe even has Ashley abandoning ??? and destroying trinket to show Andrew that she doesn't want to blackmail him into staying against his will if he doesn't want to. Ends with her deciding to let Andrew go because she truly loves him. Andrew ultimately chooses her anyway though, and then player can decide to get romantically involved or not. Ends as a mirrored version of S&S, except they love each other, don't abuse each other, sex is fun for both parties, and she gets pregnant and decides to keep it.
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>>521582539
>>521582539
>>521582539
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>>521582505
He probably never had an opportunity to beat Ashley because the blame would land on Anders, but he did eventually notice that Andrew was a good kid and that Ashley was a problem child.
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>>521582756
I meant decided if THEY get romantically involved or not. FUCKING GODDAMN IT. Why don't I ever proof read?
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>>521583409
YOU'RE GAY!!



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