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Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.

>General Info on Final Fantasy
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com

>What version should I play?
http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E

>Final Fantasy XVI Info
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"
https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLC
https://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk
>PC Trailer
https://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is

>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
https://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw
>Final Trailer
https://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTGQ

>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis
https://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia
https://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions
https://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
https://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD

>Final Fantasy XI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

Previous thread: >>521392376
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Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
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>>521583293
I've been liking these little comics for the OP
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Canon and wholesome couple
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>kill off one of the best characters in the entire series (cid) about 30% of the way through the game
>spend the rest of the time with a duo of character that are an absolute black hole of charisma and personality (clive and jill)
What the fuck were they thinking?
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At the end of the day, XVI (16) is still a bad game
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>>521583845
they're cringe DeviantArt shit
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At the end of the day, FFVII Rebirth is still the best Final Fantasy
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>>521585056
its a good rpg but not a good final fantasy fuck those minigames fuck
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>>521585035
>cute Final Fantasy comics are cringe because they're "DeviantArt"
Anon, this is a thread where every other post is a Twitter or Reddit screenshot, and when that's not happening someone is using a screenshot from a game they think their bogeyman likes for the sole purpose of using that game to shit on a different game that they think their bogeyman likes, and when that's not happening, everyone is false flagging about being a trans fan of a game that they think their bogeyman likes.

A cute comic Final Fantasy related comic coming from DeviantArt is the least cringe thing that has ever happened in a /ffg/ thread.
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>>521583293
Trains!
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>>521585143
shitty minigames are an ff staple
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What's the worst Final Fantasy minigame ever?
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>>521587487
I think the none-meme answer is II, I'll let you know, think I'm 2/3 through I.
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One true love & tender kissu! Canon & cute couple!
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>>521587487
>>521587623
Chocobo racing/training in X.
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>>521587487
XVI
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>>521587487
The best minigame is easily X-2's Creature Creator.

The worst minigame... I'm gonna go with Blitzball.
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>>521583293
I like Selphie but I don't think this captures her voice well.
She's the best FFVIII girl, though. She's the absolute cutest.
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>>521585035
have you been in these threads?
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Train, train, take us away
Take us away, far away
To the future, we will go
Where it leads, no one knows
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>>521589059
Clearly you don't
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Why does Selphie love trains so much?
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>>521589059
Don't encourage the shitposter.
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Will we finally get to fight it in Part 3? even XIV jewed us out of a Sapphire Weapon trial like the others got
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>>521592746
new minigame! survive until the mako canon fires!
take no damage or game over
5 minute timer
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>>521592746
I want to, but at the same time I don't. I don't think we will because it would detract from the Raid on Midgar and what the party do when Diamond Weapon attacks.
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i hate this nigga chadley so much. every little action you take usually involves him calling you and talking for 2 minutes. and it's over the most trivial shit too, he loves wasting your time. i guarantee during the course of the game, he probably took 3 hours off your life. hate him so much bros. nigga would congratulate you for taking a dump.
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>>521589852
trainspotting is a thing in nipland. goes hand in hand with being a virgin

japs have a weird obsession with trains probably similar to boomers with old cars and reminiscing about their 66' chevy impala and stuff like that
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>>521593497
shinra created a fucktoy thats also an encyclopedia. just download the nude mod and use the flaccid option
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>>521593497
They for sure went overboard with Chadley.
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>>521593497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwICrfVU20&t=4s

Just mod his voice. It somehow helps loads.
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MAI is going to get a body in part 3 and the secret ending is Cloud waking up to Chadley and MAI sucking his cock followed by Cloud fucking Chadley so hard it breaks the bed.
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>>521585056
Incelroth...
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>>521595808
Volcel
He could have any pussy or bussy he wants
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what's with the image spam?
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If you mainly want to post text I suggest visiting reddit
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>>521596221
He doesn't have a dick anymore.
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>>521598214
>>521598338
>>521598541
>>521598675
>>521598810

Why is she flaunting her armpits?
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>>521603802
Main sexual organ
Also she is asian so they smell nice
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Dead...
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>>521603802
Booo, get new materials, you're boring.
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>>521608703
No one asked for your Yoshi-P criticism...
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>>521608703
You struck a nerve, the coomer immediately deflected.
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>>521608703
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>>521608703
Tifa is Italian!
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>>521611874
Oh god not dreamworld
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>>521607649
That's just the legit state of the general when there isn't currently someone talking to himself 8 hours in a row
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>>521610648
I have always liked Yuffie, but I like her even more now that she gives Cloud shit for his very obvious crush.
Its really funny and fits a teenage girl well, I think. She doesn't know Cloud is a teenage boy (mentally) but it's like she can feel it.
Plus, she's a canonical eavesdropper who wants to watch Cloud and Tifa fuck.
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Aerisu!
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>>521617015
>Green and purple materia combined
........
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>>521618465
Yuffie is so hot.
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>>521589852
Because shes cute and sentimental
I knew a cute dumb girl who liked trains, wish that could have gone somewhere
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>>521584615
>Bartz x Krile
Dangerously based pair
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>>521620637
calm down pedo coomer
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>>521620914
Take it up with the fan art, troll
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>>521612487
>Yuffie the canonical voyeur
Her dialogue after the night under the Highwind scene is going to be adorable
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>>521621196
>"wow, it looked like it hurt"
>"did you put it in the wrong hole?"
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>>521631282
Irvine is really underrated.
Sure he should have said something about Edea, but FFVIII is about teens after all.
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>>521632371
I hated that fucker.
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>>521632371
I was talking about this the other day. Probably one of the most underrated dudes in the series. Badass Final Fantasy cowboy is an archetype we really need to see return.
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They should have have Joshua and Jote playable with their own sections.
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This will never be explained.
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I never liked Irvine.
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>>521638050
>*pierced* in the shoulder by *magic ice*
Ice melted son lmfao
The magic smacked him up and knocked him out cold. But then it just disappears or some shit
It’s fantasy I ain’t gotta explain shit. Why can’t Aeris be revived? Why can’t anyone who dies in a cutscene?
Not worth losing spaghetti over
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SQUALL IS DEAD
R = U
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>>521636919
Joshua deserves to be raped.
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This chapter has been a bore so far but this part made me pogface
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>>521638050
It's a mistranslation that spawned an entire schizo theory
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>>521632371
His character will be expanded upon in the remake trust zhe plan
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WHEN I CLIMB IN THE RING
WE LOCK EYES AND THAT'S WHEN I REALIZE
THAT I'M FREE, THIS IS ME
THIS IS WHO I WAS MEANT TO BE
BEAR MY CLAWS, BEAR MY FANGS
MY HEART'S RACING IN THE THRILL OF THE FIGHT
AS I RUN AND I HOWL
AT THE MOON (I howl)
I'VE THE STRENGTH TO DEFEAT ANY FOE (I see)
THERE NOWHERE THAT I CANNOT GO (face me)
COME PREPARED, IF YOU DARE
CAUSE YOU'LL NEVER BRING ME DOOOOOWWWWN
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Let's ignore samefagging posts and talk about FF8.
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>>521642040
Selphie is an enemy agent
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>>521641245
What does it actually say?
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>>521645980
Something that implies that he is still wounded but his wound has been tended to. Nothing about him wondering about a disappearing wound
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>>521642040
I can see her pantsu
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>>521572849
I like RPGs and XVI. But you get butthurt if I ever say I prefer Xenoblade and Metaphor over other FF games like VIIR.

>>521577747
>no corridors
But a fuckton of slow walk sections.
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>>521649325
Xenoblade (all of them) and Metaphor were better than most recent FF entries, yes.
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>>521649325
>But you get butthurt if I ever say I prefer Xenoblade and Metaphor over other FF games like VIIR.
It's almost like arguing in favor of people who """truly""" like RPGs or Final Fantasy was never the goal with that line of shitposting.
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>>521620637
True, but don't reply to the falseflagging shitposter.
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Is he right?
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>>521649864
XIII is Ludo Kino
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>>521649864
It's still visually and aesthetically gorgeous.
But the linear map design is still a big issue because you can't really travel back to previous areas like you could in X. Not being able to use the full party until over halfway through the game is also a big issue that time won't fix.
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>>521649864
Pushed the series forward into nu-rpg braindead stagger gauge timewasting.
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>>521649864
"Ahead of its time" is far too generous, to the point that it's incredibly disingenuous.

It was "overhated" on release, in my opinion mostly due to the type of ideology unironically perpetuated by Xplay as well as the growing western interest in meme "open world" games, but even while being "overhated" many of the complaints were valid, just slightly overstated.
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>>521649864
I liked Final Fantasy XVI, but I liked Final Fantasy XIII even more.
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>>521647759
Can you fucking imagine there's an entire subsection of the VII fanbase that thinks this isn't supposed to be romantic?
Absolutely wild shit.
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>>521649864
Right. It certainly has its own unique identity in terms of both visuals and gameplay. I loved the cyberpunk/magitek aesthetic Cocoon had. To this day nothing else is quite similar to it.
Paradigm was also a great combat system, but the complaints that it took too long to truly open up since you spent far too long with only two party members is very valid. Stagger was also somehow more unique in this game than it is in the following games, since you had to quickly juggle keeping the enemy's stagger bar from depleting while also trying to maximize damage dealt while staggered.
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>>521650815
Can you imagine caring about shipper drama for Final Fantasy VII?
Absolutely wild shit.
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Why do you guys love FF13 so much?
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>>521651000
In this thread? Like 80% if /ffg/is fighting about the wrong opinions of others. That's what your post is doing to mine, even.
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XIII is fantastic but misunderstood. XIII, and most JRPGs, are actually visual novels. This one just makes no effort to hide that from the player.
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>>521649864
Remake takes another L
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>>521585035
You'd like them if a Jap made them
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>>521651190
XVI was so disappointing that it made me go back and appreciate XIII a whole lot more.
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>>521650538
Millions felt similarly
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>>521612487
>Plus, she's a canonical eavesdropper who wants to watch Cloud and Tifa fuck.
She's going to be really disappointed when she hears about the Honey Bee Inn and realizes he's canonically gay.
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>>521651545
I'm guilty of that
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>>521651545
This, XIII was the lowest point, until XVI came along and somehow went even lower
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>>521651825
Only if getting pegged makes you gay.
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>>521650036
>>521650538
>>521651190
>>521651409
>>521651545
>>521651645
Fragrant, enlightened posters
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>>521652747
>XIII was the lowest point
XIV 1.0 remains that titleholder
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>>521621196
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>>521653243
I don't play mmo shit
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>>521649864
Yes. I’ve shared this exact same sentiment here before. Final Fantasy XIII is true 21st century ludo visual kino. No meme. Gameplay design and the story are tightly weaved together in a way almost no other game has ever done before
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>>521653337
Light….
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>>521653753
cringe
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>>521653753
Tifa stronk!
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Should i play ff10 or wait for the remake
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>>521651389
>That's what your post is doing to mine, even.
If this is true, then that's also what (You) were doing originally.
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>>521659164
What remake?
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>>521653753
The setting writes itself
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>>521659932
https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/1455426/final_fantasy_x_remake_is_reportedly_in/
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>>521659164
If you've never played it before, play X, and also play X-2. The "Remake" is more likely to be X-3, if that's even in the cards after SE's restructuring and cancellation of in-progress games. If there is even a X Remake, they'd have to first announce it, and then it'd be at a minimum 1 year gap between being announced and being playable.
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>>521653732
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>>521660127
>it's real
HOLY SHET
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>>521659765
Yeah, man. I was antagonizing people with stupid opinions. I think that's what rustled your jimmies in the first place, buddy.
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>>521661134
>"it's okay as long as I'm doing it, in fact it's good when I'm doing it!"
>he thinks it's *my* jimmies that are rustled
lol I don't even disagree with that you said, but I also can't imagine actually caring about shipper drama like you very clearly do.
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>>521660127
What about X-3? I believe that game was in development iirc
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>>521661437
Isn't that an audio book? the one with Tidus' head exploding?
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>>521661335
You are acting like I said it wasn't OK at any point, but I didn't do that.
I said it's most of what /ffg/ is. That's why I do it here.
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>>521661764
I'm not that guy, but that's not X-3. The rumored X-3 afaik was going to be more of a prequel with the Auron Braska Jecht party.
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>>521661978
Which can only be succesfull if FF X is in the pop culture zeitgeist. Hence, the remake
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I'm really tired of every other game that releases just being a remake.
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>>521661978
Wasn't X-3 supposed to be a Rikku game from her perspective?
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XII was peak. Why the fuck haven't they made a sequel?
I can't fathom the thought process in abandoning Ivalice.
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Should've bought FF 16 Harvestella, Tactics Ogre, Visions of Mana and Live A Live then. Now open wide little anon, here comes the FF 10 Remake!
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>>521662606
You might be thinking of the original concept for X-2: two different games, one from Yuna's perspective and the other from Rikku's.
As a Rikku fan, I would have liked that a lot.
>>521662749
Are we going to pretend RW isn't a real sequel because it began life as a different game? Because that's not how it works: it became a sequel and released as a sequel. It's a sequel, just in a different subgenre.
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>>521662815
I bought all those. Fuck remakes.
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>>521662519
Like >>521662815 said, Squeenix is one of the few companies producing games with new IP's aside from AA studios so you're not really in a place to complain here.
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>>521662606
I never heard of that rumor and I can't even imagine how that would play out.

>>521662815
Hopefully Rebirth's complete lack of sales steers their Remake decisions. Small remakes by Team Asano are not desirable, but not offensive either. CBU1 decade long Remakes are incredibly offensive. If Automata and XIV had been less successful, we would have gotten an outsourced 1 game Remake and we'd already be on to bigger and better things.
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>>521662815
>>521663172
Also, I don't think you realized that Tactics Ogre and Live-A-Live are both remakes.
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>>521662749
We need to return to Ivalice kino.
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>>521662749
>>521663364
Doesn't Ivalice get flooded like 10 years after XII ends
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>Ivaliceshart kills the thread
Tale as old as time
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>>521663360
Reborn is a remastered port of a 2010 remake of a 1995 game
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Needs more Eclair
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I need some help
Does anyone know the ost that plays there https://youtu.be/bwHiPuhbqbs?t=816
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>>521667119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-LEahHxvtk
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>>521667220
Man come on
please
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>>521667119
sounds like a shitty chiptunes version of The Chase
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>>521667119
https://youtu.be/d53BHoPPsJI?list=PLh93Av0AE7bCZIvWIsoX5-a-0r3dtEhU7
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I hate zoomers so fucking much
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>>521669546
You sound old and bitter.
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>>521669546
Why are you in a Final Fantasy general then
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>>521669546
Same.
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Post
More
Claire
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>>521671940
Is XIII the most oneeshota FF?
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All I know is that XII is definitely the best one.
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>>521664135
Insecure XIIIkek...
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>>521672483
If you’ve played the game, you already know the answer
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>>521672483
She's a pedophile and a Mary-Sue.
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>>521673851
Yeah, I'm asking because there are other FFs I haven't played and also my PS3 died when I got out of Cocoon so I never finished XIII anyway.
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Who's excited to finally play a good FF game?
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>>521674636
Fuck off.
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>>521674636
xvibros...we're losing to frogs...
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>>521674834
>rebirth is just outright forgetten
Man.
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>>521675026
To be fair, Redditbirth was not very memorable, except as perhaps the game that finally killed the series.
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>>521675026
>>521675159
xvibros...we're projecting our insecurities again...
300m dollars...down the drain...
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>>521675159
Sadly very true and unfortunate
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>>521675668
Well you didn't mention Rebirth. Shohei thinks 33 is better than any other AAA RPG out there and the only thing that came to your mind was XVI, ergo VII is just... forgotten and left behind.
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>>521675159
Why do you like like this?
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>>521674425
You are completely mindbroken at this point, you post the exact same reactionary seethe every single day
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>>521676110
Because VIIR was shit
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oh no no no no Clivesisters.....they're putting our game in the bargain bin now....
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>>521676290
Welcome to /ffg/. All the 7, 13, 16, and mobage haters are all the same.
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>>521676373
>Now
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>>521674425
You know you say the truth when the drone doesn't even try to dispute you.
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>>521674448
Final Fantasy XIII trilogy is worth revisiting, if you hadn’t heard
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>>521674636
>30 hours
>30 side missions
>30 people
It should have been called Expedition 30 instead
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>>521676373
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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I think Cloud could beat Noctis. Seph is also more dangerous than Ardyn, especially in Rebirth with his early final forms.
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>>521676489
I’m making a conscious decision not to engage with a man man and what do you do? You call me the drone
Can’t make it up folks
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>>521676594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jqxJtMtk5s
Sure thing, Tifakek.
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>>521674636
I've been doing my duty by insulting anyone who likes turn based combat in all E33 threads.
>>521676290
I only played the first game, does Hope show up much in XIII-2 or XIII-3?
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>>521676489
Truthbased, champ.
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>>521676873
>super slow
Tifa knocks him out in seconds.
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>>521677087
>I've been doing my duty by insulting anyone who likes turn based combat in all E33 threads.
Based and same
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>>521676873
>We could’ve had Diamond Weapon as a superboss in XV instead of just a fucking turtle

I’ve never been so mad in my life
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>>521676872
*mad man
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>>521677087
Yes, Hope is in both games and in 2 he has a genki gf but all he ever talks about is seeing Lightning, Fang and Vanille again (based)
In part 3 well, it’s a bit complicated but just know that even “god” knows how special Hope x Light is
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>>521676419
No.. we are nothing alike!
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>>521678175
>he has a genki gf
Lame
>all he ever talks about is seeing Lightning, Fang and Vanille again
Nice
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Noct vs Tifa would be really cute
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>>521677087
>I've been doing my duty by insulting anyone who likes turn based combat in all E33 threads.
We all have
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>>521641245
i remember the schizo even made a site for his schizo theory, what a tard lol
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>>521677757
Teenage cashier Eclair…
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>>521678603
Still better than that shit Mary-Sue vs Hope disgusting pedo love story.
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>>521679286
You are trying way too hard, antagschizo. You are truly the worst of all the shitposters
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>>521676594
Depends, Noct after the timeskip is definitely stronger than Cloud in AC.
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How long is this fucking game dawg i'm 24 hours in and just beginning the Shinra part
I wanna get to Rebirth alreadyyyy
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>>521584615
fraid so
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>>521679478
I think there are 18 or 19 chapters, but the last chapter is basically just a big boss fight.
You're getting there.
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>>521679478
Get ready for the worst boss fights in the game
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>>521679478
Lots of filler.
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>>521679478
Dude just enjoy it. Make sure you play Intermission as well.
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>>521674636
shuhei yoshida said ffxv was his goty

did he ever even say anything about xvi
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>>521680486
I'm planning to and i am enjoying it, it's just that the filler (chasing down that spiteful little creature so Nomura's donut steel OC can dump his le tragic backstory) and Barrett's incessant, hypocritical prattling are getting to me.
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>>521675668
OOF

that means ff16 made barely half its budget back

what an astronomical flop

>>521676373
ff16 has been on heavy discount since 2 months after release and bargain bins for over a year
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>>521676110
>b-but Rebirth
xvi-bros...we can only think of rebirth whenever a AAA RPG is mentioned...we don't even think of XVI anymore...
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>>521680780
Barret really turns it around in Rebirth. You have to remember you are still in Midgar, and everyone was still a dick to each other.
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>>521681023
Owari da….
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>>521676594
cloud would get folded by gladio let alone noctis
sephiroth is weak af ardyn mogs him instantly
little neither of them could lay a finger on noct or ardyn because of phase and warp
plus cloud has no counter to alterna and ardyn can literally just daemonize sephiroth and absorb him like majin buu
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>>521680486
>wall market
>walk & talk segments out the ass
>lame combat unless it's tifa
>enjoy
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I've been playing PS4 FF7
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>>521679478
its 18 chapters
chapter 17 is kinda long and you have a gauntlet of boss at the end
chapter 18 is basically the escape sequence and final boss fights
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>>521681504
Yes. I'm going to replay it after Rebirth. Then Probably play the original again. I may even revisit FF8 when done with all above.
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>>521588424
Silly anon that's not a mini game!
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>>521681930
Final Fantasy XVI is so bad that I don't consider it a full game
To me it's just a very long, tedious and boring minigame
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We need to go back.
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>>521681023
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>>521682092
To /v/? Sure
You go first
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>>521681125
I was thinking of both, but you (and possibly many more) forgot about Rebirth even existing.
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the fact that this youtube channels ff16 moveset video is the one with the highest views of any ff16 moveset vid on youtube and it got mogged by a ffxv moveset video by the same guy uploaded months after the ff16 moveset vid was uploaded is hilarious

ff16 really had no staying power and people went back to caring about xv and discussing and making videos for xv
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>>521682252
even the ff16 merch flopped...
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Why didn't XV have Bio, Aero, Water, or Stone? Or Meteor?
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It's time to take back /ffg/
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>>521682549
FFXV’s combat is actually deep as fuck, especially the weapon swap combos, and air step which are almost too deep for their own good because the enemies are so poorly designed. There’s really no real reason to master it, which is why a remaster needs to happen, to fix all of that shit. The potential is still there.
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>>521682896
It does have bio and stone but you're not the one using it
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>>521683719
XV's combat is too floaty and slow. Feels like I'm fighting the game rather than enemies.
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>>521682896
it does have bio via bioblaster and venomcast casting bio aka poison
doesnt need the other 3 since it has dark and light and bullet stats instead
does have meteor in comrades

why doesn't xvi have any magic at all
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>>521684174
So you can't cast them as Noctis, how sad. Also I'm talking about XV.
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>>521684018
its faster than 7r or kh2
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>>521684321
lmaoooo
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>barry still trying to gaslight people into thinking XV combat isn't shit
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>>521684321
>*laughs with my 7 different broken Yuffie builds*
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>>521684261
bioblaster can be equipped by noctis and it casts bio aka poison
venomcasts can be equipped by noctis and they cast bio aka poison
ignis's venomfang also casts bio aka poison too
noctis has dark light and bullet stats too, he doesn't need the other 3

ff10 doesn't let you cast meteor
ff13 doesn't let you cast meteor
ff16 doesn't let you cast meteor
ironically ff7 doesn't let you cast meteor
ff7r doesnt let you cast meteor
ff7 rebirth doesn't let you cast meteor
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>>521685324
So no Bio spell then. No water or stone or meteor. Or Ultima IIRC.
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Final Fantasy XIII and XV should have followed in XII's high fantasy footsteps.
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>>521684717
it objectively is
barret is slow as fuck
cloud moves and attacks slower than noctis
ignis speed blitz anyone in 7r

this is the fastest cloud can move in 7r and its a precanned ability where he auto moves between 3 targets where the motion is canned and not his regular speed, plus requires meter to use
vs ignis just doing regular basic attacks here with the thunder daggers by tapping attack 3 times here and it taking him to different targets
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>>521684953
the only combat that is shit is 16 and 7r and 13 and 12

>>521685015
>laughs in ignis
>laughs in warp
>laughs in dagger or shuriken which mog yuffie in speed and distance covered

this is the fastest yuffie moves just doing basic attack
that's slow as fuck compared to noct daggers or sharing or airsteps or ignis
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>>521583293
Which cutscene is this?
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>>521685783
Bioblaster casts bio aka poison
venomcast casts bio aka poison
venomfang casts bio aka poison

bio is poison

Bahamut casts ultima sword in xv which is a recurring physical variant of ultima

ff3 you can't use ultima
ff5 you cant use ultima
ff9 you cant use ultima
ff13 you can't use ultima
ff13-2 you cant use ultima
ff14 you can't use ultima
ff16 you can't use ultima
ff7r you can't use ultima
ff7 rebirth you can't use ultima

ff10 doesn't let you cast meteor
ff13 doesn't let you cast meteor
ff16 doesn't let you cast meteor
ironically ff7 doesn't let you cast meteor
ff7r doesnt let you cast meteor
ff7 rebirth doesn't let you cast meteor

ffxv comrades casts meteor
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>>521686779
Not sure of the exact one but Aphmau is great in all of her appearances in ToAU. You can watch them here:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZHhMkXG6vo6ejVpzpv8a365gExurpto3

I love that expansion so much.
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>thinks gameplay speed can only ever be measured by a distance traveled
>hasn’t played any of the video games he shitposts constantly, just watches YouTube clips
>didn’t even buy Episode Ardyn
Ban the troll already
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Return to Vanille.

Vanillification.
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>casts more Meteors than ever possible before
https://youtu.be/XyyHSwyc0wo?si=mHDZel-ZhZV-BUex
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>>521688004
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What are you most looking forward to in 7R part 3?
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>>521687885
See >>521686363
cloud at max speed on a fucking canned ability is slower than ignis doing basic attack

noctis and ignis and prompto and gladio all run faster than cloud and 7r too, their dodge rolls are all faster than in 7r too

show cloud or yuffie or anyone in 7r moving anywhere close to as fast as ignis moves here

hell even ardyns shadow step has you move faster than anything in 7r
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>>521688356
Finally being able to discuss something besides VII on /ffg/
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>>521687772
ty
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Ifrit, the Infernian.
He doesn't share the Glacian's fondness for mankind. But you can expect a… warm welcome.
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>>521688512
>every time he’s not teleporting around uncontrollably, his actual movement animations are all still slow and “realistic” including the cartwheel
Yuffie and Tifa both animate 3 times faster than Ignis with a more precise control scheme and you would know that if you had actually played the game you’re shitposting
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>>521689052
based
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>>521686347
NUKE
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>>521687667
Those ain't spells, those are tools. Also we aren't talking about other games.
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How the fuck did a simple level dick measuring contest become mired in minutiae of actual gameplay?
AC Cloud wields six swords, can make copies of himself to attack in unison, and can cut through buildings.
I don't know shit about Noctis but he can teleport at will and he's supported by what, 13 magical weapons that he can make attack with his mind or some shit? In OO they really fucked dudes up.
The one who is gonna win is the one you like more. That's how all these kinds of things go.
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>>521689261
every single animation on yuffie or tifa is slower than any base movement on noct or ignis or prompto or comrades or ardyn

barret is slower than shit
ignis speedblitz anything in 7r
not to mention noctis on daggers or warping alone mogs anything in 7r
not even factoring in armiger which just eviscerates 7r in speed
yuffie has a dogshit control scheme see >>521686626
same with tifa and cloud

nothing precise about that
tifa moves slower here than noctis using daggers and directional inputs or even the comrades using melee attacks

and barrets dodge roll here is slower than literally slow walking in xv
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Ban this troll
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Thinking about attempting to play Tactics for the first time on mobile.

What's the best way to play it?
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>>521679286
You won, the drone is seething like mad.
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>>521689928
>>521690123
also your comrades character also moves and attacks faster than tifa or yuffie can and the comrades character reuses like 70% of noctis animations
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>>521689572
bio is poison

Bioblaster is the weapon based on the same weapon from ff6 which casts poison, it's literally a spell used through the weapon and requires MP to use, magic points
Bioblasters triangle action in xv uses 40mp and casts poison
Venomcast is a spell that casts poison
ignis's venomfang is an ability he uses that casts poison

you got btfo
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>Yuffie/Tifa/Red/Cloud zipping around and combo-ing and doing Synergy attacks at high speeds with precise controls? slow, unprecise
>XV characters teleporting around outside of your control just by holding the attack button down? fast and precise
>”how fast you move around is actually more important than good control or fun factor”
Can this “dude” rope already
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>>521688356
"Let's mosey" and Tifa and Scarlet's catfight, especially after the bikini mods come out
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>>521686347
>>521689445
Irrefutable.
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>>521690671
Comrades movesets are way better than Noctis’s but holy shit those weapon loadouts get old fast since you only mainly use lance and katana. They could’ve at least added normal sword and greatsword type.
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>XII trannies get triggered by FFXIII, FFXV, and FFVIIR with zero engagement on their posts while shamelessly samefagging, Episode #999
Yawn, post about a more interesting game if you want a discussion
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>>521692307
Um, no, it's the XIIIfags that are uppity whenever you criticize their shit waifu.
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>>521686347
Based and triggered the shitposter
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>>521689834
Cloud vs Noctis certainly would make a fun Visual Works cutscene
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I am measuring the KPIs of each game here to judge their worth. Fun? Quality? No, these are not important metrics.
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>>521692483
All you post is the same trash every single day kek
And you wonder why nobody engages with you seriously
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>>521692483
This

>>521692307
Only one sperging right now IS the xv fanboy.
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>>521692307
You made him samefag again lmao
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My wife Eiko is cute!
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>>521692483
You struck a nerve, the XIII drone is crying like the weak woman it is.
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Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong and we should all follow his example. A true man of the people.
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>>521664135
They are trying to do it again, very desperate for attention
Nobody ever discusses XII for a reason
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Why does the shitposter hate Ivalice anyway?
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>>521693567
For me it’s the way it passive aggressively posts the same things over and over but just slightly altering the subject/verb
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>>521693659
/ffg/ needs Vaynefag to come back and save us
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>>521693842
Why do the laziest and unimaginative shitposters hate Lightning so much?
Make sure to be as detailed as possible with your explanation
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>>521694180
>needing an avatarfag
no thanks, we don't need to be retarded like /xivg/
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Cute chocobos
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>>521693842
Wat
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>>521693585
impregnate eiko to repopulate her race
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>>521694264
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>>521694329
>XIII outta nowhere again
Do XIIIkeks feel persecuted when other Final Fantasy games are discussed or something? What causes this?
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>>521694624
>outta nowhere
Kek not even you believe that, gaslighting troll. Make sure you get really unhinged with your meltdown about Lightning later tonight whenever I get home and start posting screenshots. It will be good entertainment
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>>521694624
It seems to me as if XIIIfag felt incredibly called out by that statement, almost like he's the shitposter. That's just my interpretation though.
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I guess they're just not ready for peak high fantasy
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>>521694367
Well, you say that, but Vaynefag was one of the best posters that /ffg/ had, and instead of Vaynefag we must currently suffer the avatarfag known as "completely new to /ffg/, XIIIfag" who is, in fact, an avatarfag.
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>>521694624
Insecurity, I'm afraid. You've been identified as xe's boogeyman.
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You cannot post FFXIII here without “someone” losing spaghetti over it, that’s been my experience
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SE killed Ivalice for XVI

Was it worth it?
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>>521676373
But…high fantasy kino…
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Oh? You're approaching me, the infamous Rogue Tomato?
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>>521695382
Don't worry, they'll retroactively shoehorn Valisthea into Ivalice like they did with Vagrant Story
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Sheep must return to Final Fantasy
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>>521695206
>Vaynefag was one of the best posters that /ffg/ had
newfag needs to hurry on back to whatever discord forum he came from.
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>>521696317
>newfag needs to hurry on back to whatever discord forum he came from.
I agree, XIIIfag needs to leave. He's very loud and proud about how new he allegedly is.
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FUCKING SPAWN ALREADY WARMECH!!!!!
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>>521696515
he's not even here right now
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>>521696684
kek true
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Thank God.
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>>521696684
The yoshicult always seem to fantasize about people that aren't here.
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I'm guessing this wasn't in the ps1 version was it
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I can make the worst of the worst, bitter FF hating shitposters very angry very easily and that makes me feel good
They must be reminded their endless seethe does not speak for all Final Fantasy explorers
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>>521696580
Never give up anon, it will happen
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>>521694624
Insecurities.
XIIIfag are aware that their game is shit, but they cannot admit it.
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>>521693585
THE BEST
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>>521693585
How badly are they going to butcher Eiko's design in the remake?
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>>521697320
You would rather discuss me and fantasize about me than discuss a Final Fantasy video game
Come on mate discuss FFXII or something already lmfao we are waiting
Or is that not fun enough?
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>>521697617
theres nothing much to butcher, her design is atrocious to begin with
her outfit makes 0 sense
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>>521697067
>tfw "yoshicult" out of nowhere, when the conversation was about why shitposters hate Ivalice, before XIIIfag made it about himself
The joke is that he is actually here right now, is currently shitposting, and yet always also seems to be here to tell people that he's not here right now.
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>>521676373
>used
That would have been my copy had my dumb ass not bought that piece of shit digitally.
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>>521697320
You struck a nerve, the drone is mad.
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>>521697617
When was the last time you actually looked at her character model in game, her portrait or cinematic appearance? Lol
Pretty sure she’ll look just fine
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>>521698091
>tfw "yoshicult" out of nowhere, when the conversation was about why shitposters
yoshicultist always snitching on himself.
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>>521698635
>Pretty sure she’ll look just fine
I believe he's talking about the pink "skin-tone" bodysuit she's wearing, which will need to be censored.

Personally, I think I'd be fine with the Amano Eiko if they're going to censor her (they are)
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>>521698091
The joke is that… I said that one single time while the usual suspects were crying whenever I wasn’t even posting
It’s stuck with you so deeply and for so long now that you feel the need to spam it like it’s some gotcha because you’re literally obsessed with me
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>>521698881
I prefer Dagger's trance mode.
Through trance was the worst system in every FF.
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>reeeee they are gonna “censor” muh 6 year old waifu!!!
Schizos WILL pretend that the PS1 model is “more attractive” than the cute loli they will design. Just look at VII Rebirth girls, and how schizos cried censorship about Tifa/Yuffie/Priscilla.

The never ending carousel of complaints.
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XIIIfag has:
>shitposted about Ivalice
>became personally offended when someone asked why shitposters hate Ivalice, announcing is presence as the shitposter
>made it about himself for no reason out of nowhere and then started to play the victim
>deflected to "yoshicult" out of nowhere and for no reason
>as he crying in pain as he is attacking, he makes a snide remark about someone playing XII, indicating that the reason he started all of this is because he's a useless attention whore who didn't like that someone here was playing a Final Fantasy game and posting it, that's why he started shitposting Ivalice, and that's why he turned his own shitposts into a self-victimization
What a sad, strange little man.
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>>521699402
And don't forget that it completely goes mad whenever it reads the word Mary-Sue, even if you're not talking about his moody menopausal bitch of a waifu.
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>>521699402
Tldr;
>every single post I don’t like was written by muh XIIIfag boyfriend
>I hate him so much I will continuously seethe about how he hurt my feelings rather than discuss a Final Fantasy video game
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>>521699402
I mean, the way it always butt in every discussion to try to make it about himself, AND THEN it answers itself, its attention whoring is obvious.
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>>521697617
give her elmer fudd syndrome
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>>521699402
Yes, that about sums it up lol
I just wanted to post some XII, not sure what caused the immediate butthurt
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>>521699498
>>521699756
Now he's pretending like he didn't make all those posts, even though it's incredibly obvious they are all him. My guess is that he has several diagnosed mental disorders and is currently taking medication for them and the medications cause him to be this much of a needy piece of shit.
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>>521699687
Kek
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>another “seethe about a poster instead of discuss a video game” episode
I have posted Final Fantasy and Claire so much in the last day (from my phone, in the car, with a cowboy hat on) I broke the chatbots and now the thread will be about all the blind rage I inspire rather than the precious Final Fantasy XII that they are desperate to champion

Pray for these poor souls, /ffg/
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>>521700023
Not everyone can appreciate fine art.
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what classes did you give to your party in XII
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>>521700076
Look forward to this meltdown about my posts/XIII/Lightning to continue into the night
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>>521700046
>>521700395
Take your meds, schizo.
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>>521700427
True.
>>521700513
It's very versatile. You can play whatever you like. I really liked using Black Mage.
In the original everyone had the same build and I stole that OP sword from Ithuno early on and raided the Necrohol asap.
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>>521640340
Agree on both schizo conspiracy theories.
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>>521691623
Barry been real quiet since this dropped
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>when you just want to bring peace to /ffg/ but they insist on infighting
Why do you resist the glory of the Archadian Empire?
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>>521700713
Which one is it, am I taking meds or am I not taking meds? Kek
Just waiting for someone to start posting the conspiracy about my ‘persona’ next so they can get this meltdown re-run over with.
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>>521693842
Too soulful for the soulless.

>>521694894
>offtopic shitpost
You retard redditor.
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>"why aren't you talking about or posting Final Fantasy?"
>"why aren't you talking about or posting Final Fantasy?"
>"why aren't you talking about or posting Final Fantasy?"

>someone actually posts Final Fantasy and talks about it
>he shitposts it for seemingly no reason at all other than the womanly fact that it gives her attention
>someone asks why people are shitposting
>he accidentally reveals that he is the shitposter, victimizes himself, and makes the whole thing about him
>people are now rightfully attacking him for being a piece of shit (even though he's not here right now!) so he once again returns to the trite "stop talking about me, talk about Final Fantasy!"
I'm starting to think XIIIfag is trans
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didn't read lol
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>>521701091
Yeah that’s my post that smoked his ass, but then his garbage was replaced by the shitposters crying about me. Go figure
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>>521701447
Same KEKKK
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>>521699402
>>521701374
Another succint analysis
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>>521697067
>exposing yourself as the shitposter
>>521697098
>t. melting down over XII
>>521697762
>shitposter is literally blind
My god that's 3 strikes.

>>521698961
>one time
lmao?

>>521699756
The real issue is that it confuses multiple people to be the same.

>>521700427
Speaking of fine art, the OST is great too.
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>>521701743
You don’t know what succinct means I’m afraid
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>Estersand
>Rabanastre
>rabanastre underbelly
>Battle for Freedom
>boss theme
>judge theme
>Phon Coast
>Arcadia
>Chocobo
All great.
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>>521701804
>The real issue is that it confuses multiple people to be the same.
It's because he is always samefagging so he thinks "his enemy" is doing it too.
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>>521700395
>me me me, I, I, I
>everyone is a chatbot but me
>I totally wanna talk about FF but won't anyways
Don't shitpost with Vanille. Just don't.

>>521700513
I always gave Ashe BM and Samurai. Vaan was Monk.
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>>521701138
>>521701804
>>521702019
Based Final Fantasy enjoyers
XII really is excellent
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I have a duty as the bringer of light, Rebirth is one of the best games of all time and XVI is better than XV.
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Definitely insane how often that samefag accusation is thrown around because people REFUSE to believe more than one person discusses FFXIII

So damn gotten to
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NO
THIS PANE
BUY MY SWORD
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I wish Jack's game was XVI.
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>521702240
>people REFUSE to believe more than one person discusses FFXIII
Nobody says that, it's just that one XIIIfag samefags and shit stirs. Weak strawman.

>>521702221
Eh, Rebirth is a B- at best. Better than the mediocre Demake at least.
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Try to get along, okay?
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>>521702221
>Rebirth is one of the best games of all time and XVI is better than XV.
Afraid so and true.
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I was Rebirth was half as good as Visions of Mana, the superior Square 2024 game.
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>>521701804
>The real issue is that it confuses multiple people to be the same.
The ironiy is too much here.
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>>521701374
Well we know from the last thread that one XVI fan objectively is.
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Don't worry guys, I'll talk about XIII with you after I've played it, I've only got II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XII to go until I play it.
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>>>/v/708194785
holy TRVKE...
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>>521702968
I beat it on PS3 many years ago and have it on Xbox now but barely got through the intro.
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>>521700713
You struck a nerve, xe got mad.
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Huh, I thought XIII and XV fags were the same Anon since they both share the same origin (FNC)
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>>521702171
You won’t discuss Vanille if your life depended on it. Seriously. Attempt to do it right now. You won’t say shit

Posted Vanille art and screenshots hundreds if not thousands of times by now, discussed her character arc up and down with Vanille-kun, discussed her outfit design, detailed her story presence as the catalyst and as the central emotional figure, as well as praising her voice actress for delivering an unforgettable and underrated performance. Openly discuss her game like mad, praise her unique animations, made WEBMs of her idle animations, I’ve done it all.

Reactionary garbage and crying about my posts doesn’t and will never get half of the organic engagement that beautiful, crafted Vanille-posts will get. Try it some time instead of getting triggered by posts you don’t like
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>>521701374
I'm pretty sure it is. It's just too attention-starved to not be.
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>XVI haters can't name 5 FF games they like
>XIIIfag can't discuss her game without causing drama and can't make original posts about the game either
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I can't wait for all these XIIfags to suddenly disappear at the same time.
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>>521703753
>>XIIIfag can't discuss her game without causing drama and can't make original posts about the game either
It's not just that, XIIIfag can't even let other people post pictures of games they are playing, so xhe shitposts them so that xhe can be the center of attention like the tranny xhe is, and then xhe plays the victim like the tranny she is after shitting up the thread xherself.
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>521703709
I've posted plenty of her before. I even mained here in RK and OO. Even made this. She should have been freed & relevant in XII-2 and played a bigger role in LR. Now genuflect. Kneel. And as >>521700713 quoted, those posts are not FF.
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XIII-GOD...we kneel...
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>>521703941
And the worst part is that xe keeps answering xerself in the most transparent and obnoxious way possible.
Just too sycophant to be believable, really.
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>>521704018
Thank you. Shame the faker is such a sissy redditor.

>>521703815
Things did get awfully quiet for a few minutes.
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Yet another thread and 16 is still shit.
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>>521703753
>XVI haters can't name 5 FF games they like
Just like how XVIfags can’t give 5 reasons why their game deserves to be in the rpg category without spamming 10/10 shill posts all day, right?
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>/ffg/ Mad Libs

Final Fantasy (number) is worth (verb)
Just checked, (number) is still (adjective)
Based and (verb) the (proper noun)
You (verb) a nerve, the (noun) is (adjective)
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>>521689928
Lightning and Vanille can beat Luna and Iris.
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>>521704141
The fun part is that it constantly samefags itself and pats itself on the back, and yet goes berserk when two posts criticize it.
Kinda like how pedophiles accuse others being pedo themselves, mmmm...
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There is a timeline out there where XIIItranny didn't shitpost Ivalice and didn't make her own shitposts about herself, and we enjoyed a peaceful Sunday night of /ffg/ posting about video games.

That's not what XIIItranny wanted though. XIIItranny felt needy for attention.
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>>521703753
>can't make original posts about the game
Now that is some serious cope. If you are capable of seething about my posts you should be capable of reading
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XIIIGODS run this place, I'm afraid
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>>521704270
>just like [headcanon]
What the actual fuck are you talking about? And why did you use plural case first to refer to a singular person?
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>>521704695
You didn’t answer my question.
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>>521704561
Ah yes can't wait for another "eclair..." post lmao
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>after it is pointed out that XIIItranny is samefagging constantly, xhe started calling everyone else samefag, and is now reaching into the past to retroactively refer to multiple people as a singular person
It's truly insane how much literally one (1) schizo can completely ruin an entire thread for years.
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>>521704606
Heroines…so fragrant…so topical
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>>521704496
Many such cases
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>>521704920
>>521704930
KEEEEEEEEEEK
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They will never, EVER post what posts they think I samefagged kekkk
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>>521704920
Gottem
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>>521705124
...Final Fantasy?
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>>521704920
>every single post I don’t like is always written by the same person
The heroines are so pure and fragrant, simply stating this simple truth will make the usual suspects extremely upset
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>>521705253
You're making yourself a little too obvious.
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>>521702816
What we know for sure is that this is the /false flag general/ and someone has been incredibly butthurt for the past 3 or so days.
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>>521705428
See
>>521583637
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Only oldfags will get this.
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>>521704928
Ironic.
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>>521705242
It’s very interesting that you not only ignored the dozen plus off topic posts screeching about me that are right there, but also simultaneously deflected from the fact that nobody can or will ever point out what posts I’ve samefagged. Cute and slippery but not very clever

Nothing but low effort flamebaiting. And they will still pretend to be concerned about thread quality kekkk
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>he has finally reached the recursive "no u" portion of his very shallow programming
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>>521705196
Doesnt quite look as delicious as the real thing but I’d definitely take a bite.
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>>521706519
>off-model fanart
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This game has some great moogles
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>>521706824
Sexo skinny savior…so athletic
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>>521706889
My moogle GF
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>>521706909
based
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>>521705689
The only thing I remember about Mobius is that it was the first piece of media to tease 7R, even using some of the same assets that were in development which was pretty exciting to see at the time.
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I get a headache everytime I use this general
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>>521707463
She really is dangerously based in all the right ways.
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Lightning should be in Remake Part 3 as one of Cloud's swords because she's so flat.
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>>521703753
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Final Fantasy XV
Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy
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The only way this general can get worse is if people start spamming AI slop.
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>>521708923
Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin
Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII Reunion
Ever Crisis Final Fantasy VII
Dissidia Final Fantasy Duodecim
Seiken Densetsu Final Fantasy Adventure
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>>521709142
If this general became a waifu thread where no one talks about anything and they just spam AI generated images of their waifus, that would be an improvement.
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>>521709142
I got you covered.
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>>521708071
Flat is kino.
She’s only flat when she Lumina though
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>>521709921
This is kind of kino, is it fan art just fed through AI or is this fully generated? Characters seem way too accurate
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1 down.
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>>521710464
Congrats man! Is this really your first FF? How did you like it?
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>>521710464
>19% of all people who played FFI PR have unlocked all achievements
That's pretty impressive.
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>>521710375
Unfortunately, you can't even make AI art of XVI because the AI doesn't recognize who Clive is LOL, that actually sums up a lot how forgettable his game is.
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>>521710564
It's not my first, I've 100% VII, Crisis Core, Remake and XVI, taking a break from Rebirth hard mode. Working my way through the OGs. It's good, for 1987, some things are a bit obtuse, but the DNA of the game is clear in its successors, the music is great, even the OG sounds, sound effects that I recognise from XVI of all games were nice, Warmech and Chaos are massive difficulty spikes to everything else.

I might play Strangers of Paradise next instead of II.
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>>521710695
>google ai image generator
>use the first one that does not require a login
>get a pretty decent clive
Why is every single thing you say on this website just a shitpost?
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>>521711217
That doesn’t look even remotely like him.
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>>521711058
Oh okay nice. Rebirth Hard Mode is too much haha. Stranger of Paradise is fucking incredible. Definitely check it out!!
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>>521711217
Who is that?
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>>521711217
This is definitely not Final Fantasy related
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Shackled Fran...
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>>521711217
One (1) 4chan pass user felt the overwhelming need to reply to this post 3 times.
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>>521711217
Based.
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>>521711217
>proving him right
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Yeah, she won.
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>>521711987
Try again
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Even Vaan is more iconic than Clive
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>>521708626
sexo
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>>521712645
Very true
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>>521712790
I've been accused of being an armpit fetishist but for me, it's actually her feet.
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>>521712645
>>521712805
Obsessed.
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>>521713793
You can't say we are wrong
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>>521714241
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I can't wait for the summer
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>>521647759
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Why is Vaan like this?
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>>521717717
ayo this nigga zesty af frfr
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Canonical Queen of the Moogles
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"Taiwanese beauty's Lightning from FF13 is dignified! Her perfect 8-head body proportions are reminiscent of the CG in the game"
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>>521712203
Except he is not wrong
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>>521727703
There is plenty of uncanny valley ai Clive shit
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>>521727842
Also available in his slave uniform
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Anime Clive
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Please stop
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Clive with chocobo abomination
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Why is there a woman (like this one >>521703986) who is afraid to respond directly to the people she is communicating with and instead responds in this manner?
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>>521728381
They say AI can't generate Clive huh? I will stop after this. Is not like I like this shit, Clive's perfection can't be replicated
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>>521704496
What a sad story...
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>>521727703 >>521727703
>>521727842 >>521728078
>>521728237 >>521728402
>>521728532
Based. You proved the shitposter objectively wrong. It's crazy how rabid the XVI (/Yoshida) shitposters are. They don't even bother to check whether or not their shitpost is accurate, they just let it rip and then instead of replying to anything that disproves them they just continue shitposting with different shitposts. I hope they're getting paid by someone to shitpost, because it's really difficult to believe that any human being would develop such a cancerous hate obsession.
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>>521722154
>>521722264
>>521723062
>>521723940
Purest Rose fragrance seems to be causing quite a stir today. They've even gone back to their low-IQ “Mary Sue” shitposting. What a sad state of affairs.
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>>521729298
Yeah is pretty pathetic
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>>521729298
It's dogshit looking Stable Diffusion kekkk
By comparison, here's Clive generated with Grok
Compare that to Claire >>521712271
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>>521699498
It took like 6 hours, but it did actually get to him.
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>>521729682
>THAT DOESN'T COUNT [for arbitrary reasons that ruin my shitpost!]
You don't need to provide backup to your own shitposts like this, anon. I already disproved the shitposter myself earlier with my own Clive generated from some random website. It's just nice to see that someone also disproved with with additional AI imagery.
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Very sad that the sudden prompting of AI images is the only new material Larry has gotten in months.
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>>521729692
I don't write every single post you don't like

Insane that some Indian spamming AI Clive slop woke you insane fags back up
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>>521729860
Correct, you only write most of the shitposts in these threads, not all of them. You then back yourself up like you did just now, providing arbitrary reasoning that you being disproved doesn't count. Like you did just now.
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>>521729445
I think this has something to do with it >>521649864
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I remember when XIIIfag freaked out on some anon for posting "AI slop", when the image he posted wasn't even AI. And then when he got objectively told, he said that it doesn't matter because it's ugly and it looks like AI, but then he backpedaled and said that he actually doesn't have a problem with AI at all!

...and now he has a problem with AI again and has become incorrectly racist due to his issue with AI.
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So Grok AND Stable Diffusion recognize Claire (obviously, because the goddess can't be confused with anyone else).
But only Stable Diffusion can recognize Clive.

Purest Rose...I kneel...
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>>521729945
Prove it.
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I think AI can be pretty cool actually. Here's one of mine
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>"it's only okay when I spam images"
>"it's only okay when I post AI"
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>>521730438
Who are you talking about?
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>>521730060
Anyone who knows anything about AI knows Stable Diffusion uses local models trained on specific images and you can download them and create them to generate whoever you want
Completely different than typing "clive rosfield" into Chat GPT
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>>521730438
You're so goddamned gotten to lmfao it's been weeks mate
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>>521730561
And? What are you trying to say?
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>>521729841
Lord knows nobody is discussing the video game.
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>>521730702
>all he ever says is no u
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>>521729692
Not that hard, he has a really thin skin.
He and his mary-sue waifu.
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Horrible and unusable thread
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>>521729979
Local troglodytes saw me spot that low effort shitpost about Lightning being Mary Sue, and now their rat instinct is leading them down the path of relentless shitposting. Someday this will end, but not today.
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>>521731139
I don't think XIIIfag realizes that he's like half of the posts in any given thread, and that at least half of those are blatant shitposts, and the other half are him victimizing himself and patting himself on the back.
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>>521730837
The comical point anon made hours ago >>521710695 was that Clive is too generic for major AI image databases to draw him accurately.
Your typical image generator online like Dall-E or Grok won't generate 'Clive Rosfield', and that's true as seen here
>>521711217
>>521729682

Stable Diffusion doesn't mean anything whatsoever. You can make AI reproductions of literally anything with any style using a custom local model. You still can't generate Clive on Bing/Dall-E/Grok the same way you can with actually famous characters like Tifa/Cloud/Claire/Sephiroth and many others.
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>>521731389
Retards do tend to lack in self-awareness, after all.
And you have to be a massive retard to like the biggest Mary-Sue in all of Final Fantasy.
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>>521731283
And when that day comes, she will be waiting for them
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It can't stop now. It's like watching an animal in a behaviorist experiment. You produce a certain stimulus (notice a shitpost about Claire being Mary Sue) and then animal can't stop producing a certain reaction.
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>>521732179
Indeed, you have a point. Lightning IS a mary-sue, the textbook definition of one. Amusing that this one shitposter unironically love her.
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>>521732465
To judge them for their wrongdoings, I hope.
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>>521732673
>Amusing that this one shitposter unironically love her.
I never thought of it that way, but you make a good point.
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>>521732718
The savior saves. If they must be destroyed, so be it
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>Over the course of XIII, she is constantly exposed as a wrong, emotionally immature person.
>As an example, it is by watching Hope that she realizes how horrible her behavior towards Serah was.
>Even getting a power boost in XIII-2, loses to antagonists like Caius.

This truth is feared by the local shitposters who can't stop shitposting about purest Claire.
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>she is constantly exposed as a wrong, emotionally immature person.
Wow, that does sound like XIIIfag.
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>>521732673
>>521732871
The more you reactively mischaracterize, slander, and all around generally shitpost about Lightning only makes me like her more. It only makes me want to post about her here even more. It's always been emboldening, and there will never be a day that it's not emboldening.

>>521733181
So very interesting those who would choose to seethe about this dynamic and complex character rather than ever engage with her tale. Sad, but still a provoking look into the mind of the 'unfaithful'. The Goddess can and will STILL occupy space rent free in their minds, without them ever knowing a single solitary detail about her.
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>>521733378
They can't seem to stop thinking about you (see >>521733313). Maybe it's love?

> without them ever knowing a single solitary detail about her.
As usual the locals have some troubles refuting the obvious truths from the game regarding characters and story. Good good. Did they play the game? Do they remember the story? I often see people here and on v characterize the goddess' personality with expressions like “aggressive bitch”, “psychopath who punches everyone” and so on, but they apparently have no idea what level of self-report it is regarding their knowledge of XIII's story. That's something only a shitposter or someone who hasn't even gotten to the middle of the story can say.
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>>521732871
Takes a massive loser like him to fall for such an obvious Mary-Sue, after all.
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>>521734036
It's all so tiresome
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>>521734358
It's funny how it's in denial about her when literally everyone else can spot that marye sue from a mile away.
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>>521734538
Ooooh. So that's why the c00mbrain defends that mary sue so much...
Mystery solved!!
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>>521691920
I hope they cut the Scarlet/Tifa slap fight out of the remake. It just seems like a strange reduction of two really powerful characters for the sake of leaning into a gendered cliché and a little too silly for me to find ‘funny’
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>new Valkyrie
>fights purple Sephiroth
>In LR
Pavlov's dog can't stop vomiting lies. Observations on the test subject continue.
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>>521734538
>>521734783
What is this, neckbeard seethe wiki
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>>521734930
I hope they replace it by Tifa getting slapped, over and over, and then retaliates with a massive PUNCH to the guts that leaves Scarlet knocked out.
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>cannot attack the message
>attack the messenger instead
Typical smoothbrain drone activity.
Your waifu is still a mary sue btw, cope!
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>>521735103
Your message is.....nothing at all
You're seething, simple as
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>>521735103
You really got under the tranny's skin, xe answered with a pathetic "no u".
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>>521734959
It's like....I've said a million times that insulting her only makes me like her more. But yet, they keep insulting her. Hour after hour, day after day, week after week, year after year
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The Final Fantasy House ain't got nothing on that mary-sue-loving schizo, huh.
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>>521735426
Honestly it's just retarded.
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>>521735103
Message was attacked, doggy. See >>521734959. It misrepresents basic facts. The degenerate who wrote this even confused the name of games. Now do "woof woof" and continue your shitposting. We all are watching.

>>521735217
Oh, look, another one. Apparently, the specific facts about Claire's story (like these ones >>521733181) really hurt you girls, and you went looking for shitposts on the Internet (you yourself did not play the game or do not remember anything about it, so you need some help obviously).
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>>521735217
Congratulations, you caused the schizo to have yet another meltdown and embarrass itself in front of everyone.
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>post about Lightning
>"your waifu a shit"
>post about Lightning
>"fucking shitposter I hate you"
>post about Lightning
>"fucking muh rey soooooo"
>post about Lightning
>"you triggered the tranny"
>post about Lightning
>"no ass no tits flat flat flat"
>post about Lightning
>"XIIIfag XIIIfag XIIIfag XIIIfag"
>post about Lightning
>"Final Fantasy house"

Good god man....is there something Final Fantasy related that you boys would like to share eventually
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>>521735426
It just lacks in self-awareness, that's all. Too stupid to realize how hypocritical it is, and constantly attempting to shield itself behind the "final fantasy" shield while it itself isn't contributing in the slightest and just spamming its Mary-Sue waifu.
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>>521735175
After 15 years, the local unwashed peasants still freak out at the sight of Claire-aristocrats illuminated by the light of the Enlightenment rationalizing the unbreakable truths about her everfragrant tale.
The light of truth does indeed blind the eyes of those who cannot comprehend it.
https://youtu.be/RPtq1Bpf6q4
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I'm posting Final Fantasy....you're shitposting about me posting Final Fantasy.
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>>521736114
Honestly, it's just sad to watch it mald like this. But that's how Mary-Sue lovers are: as retarded as the guy who wrote said Mary-Sue.
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come on just post it a few more times
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>>521736301
You're making it mald even more.
Keep going, until it cries and retreat.
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>>521736301
But she's not a Mary Sue. It was literally proven to you with several examples from the game. Too afraid to reply to these truths directly, doggy?
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>>521736438
Because deep inside, it knows it's in the wrong. That's why the cold, objective truth angers it so much, because it knows it loves a literal Mary-Sue, a complete and utter bitch.
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>>521736816
Exactly. This is why it keeps trying to drown out this very discussion we're having: xe knows xe's wrong, and we're forcing xim to admit it.
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>>521736772
Anon.....just keep posting her
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>>521737087
That, and also it's a desperate coomer trying to get in this general, but its coombrain isolates it from the rest of us.
Kinda like a kid trying hard to get into a gentlemen's club, the Mary-Sue-lover keeps trying to sneak in, but get denied at the door, and it cannot even realize it's its own fault.
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>>521737353
Yeah I'm the only person who has ever posted Claire in this general and made you seethe about Lightning....
TOP KEK
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>>521737202
It appears that Claire's superiority makes local shitposters go melty even after 15 years. What a power!
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>>521737353
You struck a nerve, xe's malding like insane right now. Through, sadly, in doing so, xe exposed xis reddit origins.
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>>521640340
At the very least Rinoa=Ultimecia is somewhat understandable. If set up properly, it could be a decent twist, while also making both characters a bit more interesting. Otherwise, Rinoa, while hot, is kind of bland, and Ultimecia is just a complete non character outside of some implications about her being persecuted and feeling lonely. Squall is dead is a complete meme though. It's on the same level as "Tsubasa wakes up with no legs and the whole story was a dream".
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>>521737707
DING DING DING
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Wak Lumut is by the actual definition (and not just character I don't like) a mary sue.
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>>521737723
Was there any doubt that it's a redditor? I mean,
>spams like crazy
>get offended when it pisses other people with its constant spamming
>has to hijack every discussion to make it about it
>never engages people directly
>consider all attention to be positive, even if it's people calling it a faggot over and over
>total hypocrite
>deflects to other, better FFs when under too much fire
>loves a mary-sue, aka fanfiction-tier writing

>>521737856
Squall is dead is a bullshit theory and I keep seeing equivalent crap often.
"What if the entire world is a dream", "what if Zidane is actually dying", "what if the sun orbits the earth".
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Started playing TZA version that I have had on my library for few years now and I never finished PS2 FF12 for I was young and gambits were too hard for my child brain coming from FFX and X-2.
I installed few mods mostly cleaning and sharpening character models but I kept seeing talk while googling about how disgustingly retardproof easy TZA is and solution for it would be Struggle for freedom mod. I have gotten to sandsea and so far and feel bit conflicted since it kinda feels easy and not easy at the same time giving room to think that "game easy" is also partly bias from people who have played game again and again for years now. I just reached sand sea and i'm kinda thinking about installing SFF balance overhaul but it would be nice to hear fellow anon thoughts too since those are the most honest thoughts about the game.
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>>521738079
Of course you havent considered anything that doesnt fit your narrative. Poor scared kid.
Meanwhile you just watch whatever review fits your narrative and stay with that. You dont watch any other kind of review that maybe doesnt fit your narrative because you are a scared little manchild, afraid of facing a new perspective or other truth.
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>>521692103
I dug through the comrades animations and there was sword animation among the rest of the weapon animations which implies they planned swords too but didn't use it, even saw 2 of the versus 13 sword animations that were in ep duscae but weren't used by noct in the final
the side swipe swing one and the swing up one

i think the idea behind comrades and kingsglaive in general is they are supposed to be ninja, thats why the main weapons are like, daggers, shurikens, katana

ferrari did even say that the kingsglaive were basically just like an elite ninja unit before
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>>521738079
You struck a nerve, xe's malding so hard right now that it even forgot to post xis mary sue waifu.
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Lightning is only one FFXIII waifu
There are many
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>>521737885
They continue to dodge the obvious facts. Animals are still developing intelligence it seems, so we need to do some additional experiments and maybe they will learn to respond at least on topic and directly (I'm not talking about counter arguments, these creatures are a long way off from that), rather than supporting each other by avoiding the obvious facts about fragrant Claire presented in this thread.
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>>521738439
This is getting really embarrassing
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>>521738248
LOL
Yeah, and the mary-sue-lover is, again, attempt to slander better FF games in its pathetic attempt to get the upper hand.
Truly a reddit moment.
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>ctrl+f "You struck a nerve"
>6 results
BEEP BOOP
Apparently in the shitposting algorithm this phrase is specified as one of the necessary ones to post. The local chatbots really like it a lot.
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>>521738079
>"zidane is dying"
What even is the line of thought here?
>"zidane's background is similar to vivi's and kuja is dying, therefore, despite the game clearly stating the opposite, zidane is dying too, I'm so smart"
What a nonsensical theory. This is almost as bad as "FFVI cid is a cannibal".
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>>521738852
You verbed a nerve, the noun is adjective.
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>>521738902
>What even is the line of thought here?
I dunno, it was a half-mocking theory made to mock the Squall one. Something something about Zidane always wanting to meet his family, get a girlfriend, and become a hero, so FFIX is all about it.
There was a similar one about Cloud actually never escaping Jojo's torture lab in the Shinra basement, and him imagining the whole game and how Tifa actually died in the reactor at Sephiroth's hand.
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>>521701091
>>521701469

but 7R is sloppy and imprecise
in XV you have precise control over everything with cancels over every base action via dodge cancels and aerial abilities with aerial dodge cancels and airsteps giving way more precise control over aything that the dogshit aerial slop 7R/7R2 has

you also have directional inputs which give you more precise control over everything, as well as manual finishers and multiple ways to string weapon attacks, while 7R has barely 1 combo per character and everything else is just a cutscene ability from a menu

not to mention basic movement in general in 7R is dogshit and slower than XV on top of actual combat moves too
and you can literally hold to attack in 7R and do more DPS doing so, while in XV you are cucking yourself if you ever hold anything and are always better off tapping, doing D inputs and manual finishers
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>>521739134
And in XIII, you don't control anything. Lightning WILL punch that poor Snow no matter what, and somehow won't get punched back because Mary-Sue, and she WILL travel with a cute peggable shota that she'll raise in the perfect husband because she's a Mary-Sue, and she WILL kill the franchise because her game is so shit that even hardcore FF fans hated it.
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>>521738206
It’s not an excuse to limit player playstyles though. No real ninja uses barriers or magic either, who the fuck cares if it makes sense?
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>>521739204
Lightning is a bitch, simple as. If XIII was realistic, Snow would've returned that punch, laid her flat with his +4 strength, and she'd have spent the rest of the story knowing her place.
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>You shrunk a nerve, the boy is small
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>>521739228
katana in comrades feels smother to play than using noctiss katana because they added more cancels and airsteps to katana in comrades, and a different manual finisher which I think is from Cor's moveset
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If you don't fight back against a woman who takes offense to you and swings her fists at you, she's a Mary Sue.

Source: local shitposting retards (third worlders, probably in light of their views on realism).
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The sister goddess, explorer of all time and space
Her game is 100% worth revisiting
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>>521599212
Why are you gay?
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>>521617604
>being nerdy and retarded enough ot even remember what those are off the top of your head
Brother. Get a girlfriend and an adult job and some goals and grow the fuck up
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>>521739858
Not just a woman though, she is his own sister. He says so. Someone that he refuses to give up on. Someone who hates him despite never giving him a chance. Someone who he honors, loves and respects as the keeper of his young fiance's virtue. Of course he wouldn't hit her back. He barely even sells the punch and literally doesn't even know what Lightning is apologizing to him for later on. He's so good natured and head strong, Lightning "harming" him in any way hadn't even really registered. All he wanted from her as penance was to know her real name.
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>>521700816
>schizo
Man. People like you really are just brain dead tv talking head believing retards. Either theory is not a theory but spelled out in the game and people like you call it a theory despite your eyes. Wild. Say, I have some beach front property in Ohio if youre interested.
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>>521653753
this is just final fantasy: Detective Conan
they even have ai habara to bait shipfags.
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>>521739204
>Lightning WILL punch that poor Snow no matter what, and somehow won't get punched back because Mary-Sue
Avoiding consequences in this case does not negate Lightning's inability to avoid the negative consequences of her actions in other situations. That is why it is difficult to call her a Mary Sue. Snow doesn't react to her behavior, but Caius, as mentioned in this thread, does. If a character has avoided the negative consequences of one of her mistakes, and in another case has not avoided those consequences and has been made out to be an idiot/weak/wrong, she can no longer be called a Mary Sue by definition, because a Mary Sue is always or almost always right and cannot be presented in a bad light as the story progresses.

I understand you have a personal vendetta against XIIIfag, but it seems you have forgotten to clarify the meaning of the concepts you are using.
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>>521740484
That's fanart.
But I'm not sure how there's shipfag bait, the setting sets up the pairings pretty clearly (and just like in the games).
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She knows how good this character is
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>>521740295
> He barely even sells the punch and literally doesn't even know what Lightning is apologizing to him for later on.
If you're referring to picrelated scene, then yes, it was a pretty good execution: no purple prose, no nonsense, fairly economical but substantial characterization of both characters. I'm not the biggest fan of the overall plot structure and many of the scenes in XIII (especially because of dialogue writing), but this scene specifically seems well-written.
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>can't talk in /v/ because they only care about current games and outrage
>can't talk in /vrpg/ because FF games are too mainstream and too easy, so they hate them
>can't talk about it here because the thread keeps getting flooded by autists and most of you just keep turning everything into a nuFF mid off
For fucks sake
>b-but why don' you talk about it
Because, while I do get some decent conversations from time to time, I swear 80 percent of the time it's just results in either "you struck a nerve" bullshit or one of the usual retards doing their routine (barry talking about XV combat tech, XIIIfag spamming screenshots and acting all playing dumb about their spam, etc.) and calling the old games bad or irrelevant. At the very least, XIV PRETEND to care about FF, even if it's just for the sake of pointing out references and calling their game a """love card"""
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>>521742969
XIV-trannies*
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>>521742969
*love letter
I need some sleep, fuck
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>>521742367
>It was too much, what happened to Serah.
>All my memories of her have turned into regrets.
>I blame myself for not believing.
>I'm sorry. Forgive me.
>For what?
>Everything.
>If you tell me your real name, I suppose I could.
>Ask Serah when she comes back.

https://youtu.be/RJ0xBF8lF3s?t=14354
https://youtu.be/GcpY38udSfU?t=15512
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>>521742969
Would love to see how immediate the disappearance of "you made her mad" posts would be with threadIDs turned on.
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What did i think about it
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What are the best eikonic abilities against bosses besides ultimates, will o wykes, lightning rod and rift slip?
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>>521741229
Jesus Christ...
It's decided, I'm on my way to Taiwan.
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>>521742969
>XIIIfag spamming screenshots and acting all playing dumb about their spam
If you want to post about a Final Fantasy game, you can post about it just fine big boy. You don't have anything to talk about?

What Final Fantasy games are you playing? What's your favorite OST? What's your favorite boss? Favorite summon? You got a waifu? Husbando? How about a favorite gameplay system? Favorite weapon design? Or maybe a characters vocal performance? You could share some fan art. You can talk about Final Fantasy XVI, the most recent mainline release. You could talk about Rebirth, the most recent critically acclaimed big budget Final Fantasy title. You could post about XII, since that's a game a lot of bitter people seem to align themselves with here

You could do any number of things but BITCHING and COMPLAINING. Yet what do you choose to do?
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>>521744451
>"XII a game a lot of bitter people seem to align themselves with"
... how did you know?
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>>521743715
You think it's okay but you wanna move on to the good part, Rebirth
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>>521743715
You think you want to play as Yuffie
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>>521744364
Completely HAIRLESS pits
Perfect Claire cosplay
8 heads tall and strong, can and will birth tall sons
Looks like a basic cute nerdy Asian girl outside the cosplay
You better put a ring on it or I'm beating you to it!!! kekkk
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>>521743715
How many hours did it take you?
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>>521745354
Did all the sidequests except the ones in chapter 14 (Oour friend is being used as a lab rat by Midgar's biggest weirdo, let's pick up some plants for the local doctor!!!!) and didn't bother with neither the colosseum nor Chadley's quests beyond Shiva
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>>521746157
Damn you got that done quick. I always do any side quest that involve fighting. I skipped a few bullshit ones in Rebirth. I think the chicken one was awful. Just make sure you do the side quests of whoever you want to be paired with on the date. You can go back later and do the rest.
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>>521683719
Agreed, you can tell they put a lot of effort into animating all the different attacks but the game puts up so little resistance there's no point in exploring any of it. They had an quick and easy solution right in front of them too, just pilfer DMC's stylish rank system where repeating the same combo gives you diminishing returns and apply that to the Report Card system already in the game. It's not much since as you said, the enemies are what really need worked on, but any incentivization is better than none. Plus it means we can throw out the garbage system the game shipped with where the best way to max out the Report Card is to purposely stall in fights so you can spam as many blindside/link-strikes as you can, while also not taking too long because you're also ranked on time. At the end of the day it's safe to say they poured a lot of resources into that aspect of the game and a lot of their work feels like a huge waste unless a remaster comes along and fixes things.
I think it's very telling that despite FFXV featuring a wealth of different weapons, you never see people sitting down to discuss their favorites. Very different from what I've seen in other threads around games featuring multiple weapons.
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Hmm.
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WHY CAN ELEANOR SEND PEOPLE TO THE PAST
IS THIS A GF POWER?
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>>521749280
What drives grown men to take part in ship war nonsense?
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>>521743715
Play intermission now
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>>521749570
Autism and loneliness
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>>521749419
You mean Ellone.
I don't know that they ever properly explain it, but does it really matter? She's the only one who can, so she does.
Just like Revee being an Inspire (except the entire plot hinges on it).
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>>521740846
All I read is some loser coping that his perfect Mary-Sue waifu is getting rekt with ARGUMENTS.
Cope!
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What did the unironically mean by this, after all these years this still creeps me the fuck out.
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>>521750623
>What did the unironically mean by this
The what, schizo? Can't you speak English? Are you stupid?
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>>521750775
I'm not a schizo, i'm not. No, i'm not.
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>>521751027
Heath Ledger ruined the Joker.
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I'm so sick of these FFIX remake rumours. I swear I've been hearing about this shit for like 5 years already. I hope it never comes out. Like, why wouldn't they fuck it up? FFVII was already too hard to remake in a single game, and it took them 2 long ass games just to get to Aerith's death, so what? Will IX be like 4 or 5 games long or something? And I can already see all those juicy story changes.
>They'll try to shove in clues about Terra and Garland in some convoluted way, maybe by adding weird visions, or a new genome character or something
>Zidane will no longer be a pervert, because that goes against modern sensitivities. No "soft" scene allowed, that's actually rape and it isn't funny.
>The first game will take place entirely in alexandria. After killing the giant bomb, instead of just crashing in the forest, the airship will get teleported to, idk, memento (totally not memoria) and the final boss will be "future Kuja" in his "proto-trance//type origin" form. The fight will have 8 phases, last 3 hours and end with him just beating the party with "ultima -1 form zero", telling zidane he isn't strong enough, only for the plot to continue as usual.
>They'll heavily foreshadow necron (which would actually be a good thing)
>also, the game is now an fps, because turn based combat is ugly and outdated and anthitetical to FF.
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>>521751323
I mean, episodes sound like the way to go to make mad dosh...
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>>521751323
I feel like I've been defending the IX remake from criticism for years and it's not even been confirmed yet. Once it is it will have all been worthwhile though.
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>>521751323
>they'll heavily foreshadow necron (which would actually be a good thing)
I humbly disagree with that. Necron is Death, and sometimes death comes out of the blue and you're not ready for it. Like when you finally receive a girl home, you're about to finally stop being a virgin, and then you learn that your mother just got a brain tumour, and it ruins you so much that you can't get it up.
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>>521751323
Buck broken by Nomura and his mystery niggas, i see.
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>>521751689
Unironically yes. No other game has made more mad than crisis core and the remakes. And it's purely because of the writing.
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>>521751825
>bad writing annoys fans
Woooow! Discovery of the century!!
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>>521751927
I mean meant "made ME more mad".
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>>521751971
>I mean meant
Are you having a stroke?
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>>521752065
Sorry, I'm very sleepy right now
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>>521751323
Or it could just be like DQ3 HD-2D, where they don't make significant changes and just make it look pretty.
Jackass.
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>>521752192
>"Noooo, but FF HAS TO CHANGE. Those old games are outdated and cringe and unambitious. FF is all about changing everything in every entry"
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>>521752192
Everyone would hate that and call SE lazy. No discussions, no theories, nothing. A week after release nobody would be making youtube content about it. What would be the point?
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>>521752149
Dude, don't risk your health just to post on 4chan. You first, the thread after.

>>521752192
Like the Pixel Remaster?
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>>521752385
Dude, the whole reason VIIR has such a shitty plot was because Nojima, Kitase and the higher ups wanted to spark theory bs. Fuck off.
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>>521752385
You are acting like DQ3 HD-2D wasn't a massive success.
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Just realized the three whispers are the same color as the weapons lol
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Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
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Legendary.
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>>521749153
>you never see people sitting down to discuss their favorites
But I've seen vids and discussions elsewhere talking doing armor/weapon build combinations before. One guy likes using the Royal Arms Rod after buffing their magic stat lots, another keeps around Royal Arms only as passive stat buffs, etc.
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>>521754364
Speaking about that, I'll probably replay XV some day, because I've only olayed the vanilla game not the royal edition. Are there any fun builds or anything? Last time I played I just picked the strongest normal weapons and mindlessly wacked everything with ignis' elemental buff.
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>>521754660
You usually don't need to think of builds but there's always to improve existing weapons. One guy did a mage build where they stacked food and equips for magic, using the scepter and broken as hell ring of lucii. Really the ring is so broken.
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Horrible general.
Now that Rebirth is no longer talked I will excuse myself.
See you when part 3 or XVII releases.
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XVII will be an MMO
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>>521757567
>once the initial shock caused by the shitty plot changes passes, nobody cares about the actual game
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>>521758331
Correct
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>>521758331
Might be why so few people returned to buy Rebirth after the first game failed to hold their interest.
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>>521757567
You caused the yoshicult to seethe and piss their pants again out of jealousy. AGAIN!!
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>>521759368
Sadly true
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>>521758331
rebirth is a masterpiece and its better written than the original.
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>>521760857
>nu-FFag has to shit on the older games to make his favorite look better
Why does this keep happening?
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>>521761919
nobody is shittin on ff7.
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>>521761965
Saying it has worse writing than any of the of "le funny nomura ghost games" is quite an insult.
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>>521761919
I love the original but I do put it down as often as possible. My hope is that people start to like the remake series more as the reputation of the original gets worse.
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>>521762163
remake rebirth isnt about "le funny nomura ghosts games". Its a tale about life and death, loss and acceptance.
and its better written
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>>521762567
It's not even finished. How can you declare it better written when there's another 40 hours to go?
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>>521762567
No, that was the original game. The remakes are just yet another bs story about "fighting fate".
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>>521762714
I have already decided that 7R3 is 10/10
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>>521762714
The more things are explained, the better written they are. A character having 10 pages of backstory is objectively better writing than a character who only gets a paragraph of backstory.
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>>521762714
welp somebody already answered for me it seems
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>>521763024
Wait, then my immortal is actually a literary masterpiece? I had no idea.
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>>521762163
lol do VIIRgins really?
The original's writing was so much better than the marvel-tier writing of Remake.
These kids don't even realize what they're saying.
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>>521763024
>autistic people actually believe this
There's more to good writing than compiling information for wikis.
>>521763038
You can still tell us what you think. How do you declare it better when we only have 2/3rd of it?
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>>521763218
Well, there are still A LOT of people who think Fate is well written, so yeah, exposition=good apparently.
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>>521763218
>You can still tell us what you think
no need to, you already answered for me it seems
you didnt even bother with a "NTA, but..."
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>>521763341
I didn't answer for you, I asked you. Twice. Others have answered but you haven't. I guess you have the same answer as they do.
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>>521763460
>I asked you.
?
i didnt read a question in >>521762965
>>521763024
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>>521763496
I don't know what kind of metatrolling this is.
I asked you this >>521762714
And then asked you again.

I won't ask a third time because you definitely don't have a good answer if you're sidestepping it this hard.
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>remakes are better written than the original
How so?
>...not telling...
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just started this
i remember liking it the first time, but then i didnt like much, its very slow grinding wise and it was hard to get cool items, unlike FFTA2
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>>521763717
>I asked you this >>521762714
yeah and then you replied to yourself
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>>521763024
This explains a lot
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>>521764043
I won't say you're playing dumb, you're just being dumb.
But fine, you don't have a good answer.

7Rfans aren't sending their best it seems.
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>>521764143
watch your tone
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>>521764143
>someone who thinks the remake is better written than the original is a retard
No...
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>>521764143
>7Rfans aren't sending their best it seems.
They are.
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>>521764308
They haven't thought of a better argument for why the story is better now than "there's more of it"
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>>521764143
>7Rfans aren't sending their best it seems.
such a fucking cringe line holy shit
this isnt a war, theres no clan or some stupid shit
"guys someone is complaining about 7r, send our best man!" fucking cringe ass shit
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>>521764827
/ffg/ has been filled with retards ever since endwalker
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>>521764409
Exactly.

>>521764827
I don't see you denying it, though...
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>>521764308
They're sending people that have lots of problems.
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>>521764827
I know, it's weird as hell. A guy said the remakes are better written than the OG, so I asked him why he thinks so considering the story is far from finished. Immediate schizobabble in response instead of just answering. I think people sometimes forget that we're here to discuss, not to play 4-D chess and to catch others out with gotchas and score points to "win"
I just wanted to hear his thoughts
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>>521765059
Im not gonna entertain your shit, man.
Rebirth is better written than the og, as simple as that. Its not about more, its about characterization and plotting.
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>>521765227
>characterization and plotting.
Yeah, both are better because there's more of it. I won't be going into any further details
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>>521765059
You struck a nerve! It's desperately deflecting.
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>>521765217
we're just here to get "engagement" as the zoomers would say
Ragebait is the best way to do that
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>>521765393
>Yeah, both are better because there's more of it
???
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>>521765471
>Ragebait
I wouldn't have considered "asking someone to elaborate on their opinion" was ragebait but then again maybe I'm underestimating how paranoid and insecure people are here
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>>521765227
>>521765393
>characterization and plotting
Rebirth just checked so many more boxes than the original, therefore it is better
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>>521765591
It goes with liking Lightning.
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>>521765531
I said I wouldn't be giving details. And I doubt anyone else will either. We're not entertaining your shit.
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>>521765657
>more
Objectively better
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>7R is 10/10
>Why?
Reeeeeee
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I feel so sad for you, man. How do you look yourself in the mirror?
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>>521765393
retard, plotting is not the same thing as more plot kek.
its how the story is written and structured. FF7 was infamously kinda rushed near the end and zack's death (one of the most important scenes in the entire franchise) wasn't included in the og jap release.
Or you're just being a lil baby and and you're just strawmanning your enemy. Whatever.
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>>521765720
All I read is "I run away from my issues just like my father did".
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>>521765865
>was infamously
Oh, you just watched a youtube essay about FF7 Original vs Remake. Got it.
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>>521765865
He doesn't want to accept the remakes are better written because there's more characterization and plotting than the original that rushed through everything. Now we're getting explanations and all those gaps filled. But apparently that's a bad thing.
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>>521765865
Ok, FF7 is rushed near the end... so how can the remakes be better written if we don't have the end at all? There's still a huge way to go. When it's done we can judge but now it seems weird to declare it better.
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>>521766047
When all the gaps are filled with marvel quips and minigame padding, it's not a good thing.
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>>521766006
>watched a youtube essay
lol stop projecting fag, I've known about that additional stuff the west got for years now.
>>521766047
you don't need to strawman my rebbit friend.
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>>521765865
yeah i know, i actually completely agree, its just that i want to make my nemesis really mad, its hilarious
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>>521766168
>padding
What you call padding I call more time with the characters and better plotting. At least its not rushed
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>>521766216
>you don't need to strawman my rebbit friend.
How ironic
>>521766220
Well it seems to be working
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>>521766261
>>521766362
get em, show em who's boss!
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>>521766261
You're that guy they make all those Netflix shows for where one episode of content is stretched accross 10-12 where nothing happens, aren't you?
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>>521765720
I accept your concession.
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Amazing to think >>521762714 is enough to cause all this.

DONT call them overdefensive tho!!
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Looks like VIIRgin(s) are not having a good time today.
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>>521766434
Yes, a normal person who doesn't just complain and hate everything
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>>521766772
>a normie
good goy
consoom that slop
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>>521766168
>marvel quips
?
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>>521766917
Sick em
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Is Elena gonna get a swimsuit outfit in ever crisis
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Sung PeakWoo solos this entire trash series btw
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>>521767338
off-topic
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>>521766917
>open Rebirth: the Movie on YouTube
>randomly click any point
>instantly find a marvel quip
It's just that easy!
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Scarlet
Kyaa haa, ha!!
You can shoot all day and never hit them with aim like that.

Scarlet punches one of the soldiers off the bridge, and the others hold their hands up.

Scarlet
Haa, ha, ha!! Stop playing around and cover me!!
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>>521767701
What the fuck is a marvel quip.
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>>521767701
bros got marvelrot, thinks everything's a quip.
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>>521768151
>>521768160
The troops are here
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>Zoomies can't even tell what a marvel quip is anymore because all their media is saturated with it
Sad!
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>>521768329
nobody asked for this marvel quip.
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>>521768151
>>521768160
You don't have to live your life as an unpaid FF brand ambassador, you know. If it makes you happy, fine, but try to remember you get literally nothing back for doing this kind of work.
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>>521768329
>>521768459
Take your meds, schizo.
Lightning is still a Mary Sue btw.
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>>521768151
A marvel quip is a joke in the middle of a serious scene coming from a character that isnt designed to make jokes exactly
example: imagine tifa saying "well THAT just happened" when they see a weapon for the first time
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>>521768516
>Lightning is still a Mary Sue btw.
I agree.
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>>521768151
>>521768160
Leave the poor thing alone,he thinks that if the sentence isn't something like "IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR THE KINGDOM OF ROSARIA AND THE DUCHYDOM OF ZANSISHART" like in his beloved masterpiece XVI it's a marvel quip.
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>>521768824
that dialogue does sound peak though to be real with you fäm
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I will once again remind them that Marvelbirth sold 2x less than FFXVI
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>>521768564
That reminds me, how the fuark are they gonna handle the weapon fights in part 3 when they're the size of the Shinra HQ? are we just gonna fight them atop the Highwind like picrel?
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Contrary to popular belief, Cait sith saying "i shouldnt have skipped leg day" when hes holding the temple on his back is NOT a marvel quip since 1. cait sith is designed to be funny 2. the joke isnt supposed to make you or the party laugh 3. its about him trying to lighten the mood one last time
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>>521768564
...urgh, these. I see.
My bad, I thought they were just called "very unfunny attempts at a ZINGER that just ruin the grandiose of a scene". Why "marvel" quip? Something to do with the movies?
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>if you think Rebirth dialogue is a bit "Marvel-y", you must necessarily be my bogeyman, and my bogeyman loves XVI, so I'll deflect to XVI now
I truly wonder, will they still be doing this in 5-10 years? When the next Final Fantasy game comes out, will they deflect to that instead or is it always going to be XVI?
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>>521769179
>Why "marvel" quip? Something to do with the movies?
Yeah, marvel after the guardians of the galaxy changed its writing to be more millenial and funny-ish. Its specially bad in thor thunder and love, apparently. Apparently theres a scene where someone is dying and someone still makes a joke thats supposed to make you laugh.
Its millinear writing at its finest.
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>>521769171
I know this is a fairly positive comment
but I can't shake the feeling that this is a thinly veiled jab at Remake
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>>521769171
I look forward to the 400 page google doc explaining every single line in Rebirth that isn't a Marvel quip.
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>someone criticizes Rebirth
>4 posts less than a minute apart
lawl
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>>521769146
Cutscene filled with hype moments and aura since Part 3 is gonna get half of Rebirth's budget. Square Enix is not in a position to just fling money at CBU1 anymore.
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>>521769339
>zoomer blames millennials
The people writing those movies are in their 50s, same as Forspoken. It's what real boomers think is "cool". It's like the action version of dad jokes.
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>>521769339
Why must "millenial" be synonymous with "retarded and turns everything into a meme"?
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Checkmate, Barry.
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>>521769461
I'm glad that we didn't let her get away with it
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>>521769346
im >>521768564
its a serious post, not a falseflag
Jokes can be present in a serious scene, but its all about presentation. Sometimes you see a couple dying in each other arms and they joke and laugh as a way to cope with reality, or they joke because they are trying to enjoy themselves one last time. Its all about direction, presentation and music used.
Marvel in general DOES change the presentation to be more of a joke, they want you to laugh rather than actually be sad or invested.
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>>521769461
You actually don't have to criticize it at all. Just wait for someone to say something positive about it, and ask them to tell you more.
Trust me, that's enough.
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>>521770134
Not so fast!
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>>521770389
i dont remember a single instance of that.
In the battle of jenova lifeclinger they are not really bantering or cracking jokes, but more reassuring themselves and trusting each other.
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>>521770389
>Want a vibe check on how the tone compares to OG FF7?
Yes please!
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>>521770134
>Sometimes you see a couple dying in each other arms and they joke and laugh as a way to cope with reality, or they joke because they are trying to enjoy themselves one last time.
Reminds me of a common complaint about Nimbus from Destiny 2. Nimbus has no off button or sense of seriousness and the attempts to inject humor into serious moments came across as insensitive.
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>>521770796
I couldn't have said it better myself, really.
It really nails the difference between Remake's over the top approach compared to the subtlety of the original.
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>>521771017
>>521770389
what did you ask exactly? i wanna see that question
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>>521771017
It sounds like this AI is a true fan of Final Fantasy 7.
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>>521771017
>Yuffie is now a full-on hyper gremlin
kek
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>mfw still wondering who stole the hovercraft from ff7 after it disappears
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>>521771442
>modern storytelling techniques
So much this. Love those.
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>>521770163
That's the magic. If you show up saying Remake is shit you won't get anywhere, but if someone says Remake is better than OG and you ask them to tell you why they think so, THEN they lose it completely. And you don't have to be negative or aggressive, you can just ask honestly for their thoughts. But the very question feels like an attack to them, and off they go.
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>>521771449
This is why OG writing sucks. In remake we'll get that information, making it objectively better written.
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>>521771442
>nuanced character development
>more subtle and layered storytelling
>deeper exploration of the themes that defined the original
>tighter, more character-driven script
Where is this version of Rebirth?
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The worst general in all /vg/
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>>521771746
>mfw the buggy gets expanded characterization and plotting in remake part 3
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>>521772108
lmao
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>>521772085
This
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NEW
>>521771943
>>521771943
>>521771943
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>>521771449
You made her angry it seems.
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Notice how the post that actually shows the prompt used is in light mode, a testament of clear, healthy eyes. On the other hand, the posts that hide the prompts used are in dark mode, clearly implying they are in front of the screen all day and probably have the eyesight of a 70 year old.
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>>521770909
>Nimbus has no off button or sense of seriousness and the attempts to inject humor into serious moments came across as insensitive.
The term is "autistic".
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>>521772304
I'm glad that we found a way to dismiss those criticisms of Rebirth out of hand.
I was worried for a second there.
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>>521773229
The trick is to dismiss them without engaging with the points made. And we have become exceedingly efficient at it.
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>>521751114
That would be Joaquin Phoenix
Not that I care much for capeshit beyond watching 1 movie every 2 years but Ledger was great



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