Store link:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378900/The_Coffin_of_Andy_and_Leyley/# Guides (Major spoilers; avoid until having played through the game once):>Routes & Subrouteshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050501797>Achievementshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050231198>Starshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3053199741>Complete Episode 2 Walkthroughhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052417644# News:>CHAPTER 3A HAS BEEN RELEASEDhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=523086940514289223# Nemlei's previous games:https://mega.nz/file/FSFXURYI#FhEp5w4qMv4w0A0mMfQ4YqLD5TJuve014_-eTNdIbSIPrevious thread: >>521636713
the REAL thread
Shan't use the bait thread
Ashley is kinda dumb...
>>521671352I'm going to sleep and will let anons decide the true thread, I replied on both for the sake of fairness.
>>521671797Dumb girls are cute
>>521671704>Would you engage in cannibalismWhat does human even taste like?
>>521672132If you think about it, are trees really made of wood, or is wood made out of trees?
>>521672152I hear it's pretty similar to pork desu
>>521672132I need Nemlei to confirm what in the world Julia meant by this
Happy family.Not sure why artists insist on Andrew having a goatee.
>>521672152some say pork, others chickenall i know is that the smell of burning human meat is disgusting>>521672232Trees are indeed made of wood
>>521672427>some say pork, others chickenThis sounds like a nursery rhyne
>>521672152Feel free to try. You're made of it.
Julia is beaver-coded, not pig-coded. Both animals have a distinct nose that could plausibly be what Julia's fucked-up nose is imitating, so we have to look to her actions and interests. What did she steal? Not just another woman's brother, but his wood. How did she take it? With her teeth. What are her interests? The wood in trees. What did she do with his wood? Dam up her hussy cunt. Similarly, this is why she has bushy eyebrows, and an (admittedly endearing) layer of fat: to keep her warm in cold water. QED, Julia is a beaver.
>>521671845There's a puking shower scene!? Fuck me, I just found the one where you can take a guilty shower together after you propose to Ashley.
>>521672401>daughterrip>Not sure why artists insist on Andrew having a goateeso he wont keep looking like a twink, someone posted a art of him without the stubble and he just looked like another sibling
>>521672401>Not sure why artists insist on Andrew having a goatee.he seems like a scruffy facial hair kinda guy
>>521672605NTA but FUCK, I feel like I missed out on so much because by the end of SNS I was so sleepy
julia lovers are the ultimate cuck lovers
>>521672605It is what happen if you don't keep the ring and check on the shower.
>>521673021Is it?
>>521672253>>521672427>>521673021>porkI know one human who certainly tastes like that
>>521673407Doesn’t even match at all
>>521672861Same. It dragged on for longer than I'd anticipated and I kind of just wanted to get it over with so I can post on /v/ without getting spoiled.
>>521673206Yes: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/long_pork
>>521672592What about Ashley and Andrew?
>>521673529They’re hot human beings
>>521673479Naruhodo...
>>521673629Yeah, but what animal are they?
I like pork.
>>521673909Andrew is a cat and Ashley is a dog
>>521673970I want to pork Ashley
>>521671352
>>521674008Andrew's inability to leave 100% make him a dog and Ashley's destructive impulses 100% make her a cat.
>>521674490He cucked Ashley with julia
>>521674490He cucked Julia with Ashley
>>521674824How is Ashley more of a cat than Andrew
I really don't think Renee was as evil as some post here
>>521674767>>521674824I've seen dogs hump stuffed donuts, stuffed animals, legs, furniture, everything. Never seen a cat start dry humping shit.
>>521673407Why did you post 2 images of Ashley
>>521674980You see how a cat just throw shit off the counter for no reason? That's how.
This is actually a pretty nice / fucked up moment right before the SPLAT.
>>521675614Fuck, don't remind me of SPLAT. It's too fucking sad seeing Ashley be fully open with Andrew now that all the choices have been made
>>521675614i dont like how bruised and unbothered she lookswhat the fuck is going on through this woman's head
>>521672401It's Andrew!...He's old and fat...
>>521675740She kept her brotherboyfriend.
>>521675740its hot
>>521675712Splat is a great ending. Forshadowed perfectly, romantic, funny.
>>521673407Why are you comparing Ashley and Julia.
>>521675982NO! It's too fucking sad! Even SNS is happier
i just dont like they killed themselves in front of kids in splat, that was too edgyotherwise its a perfect tragic kino
>>521675982Splat is too abrupt and leaves too much shit unresolved, as far as dead ends go it's a good dead end, but it's a dead end because it's insanely unsatisfying.
>>521675614It makes me sad how she's not into it and all scared honestly. Clearly only going through it for Andrew.
why did nemlei decide it would be a good idea to add ending where they kill themselves if the game is not finished yet?
>>521675614Gotta replay the game again...
>>521676230They will meet again in the spirit world
>>521675982This image is the most heartbreaking in TCOAAL so far. Made me glad I got the Cliffhanger route the first time.
>>521676236She's the one who suggests it. Andrew wants to shoot himself, but knows he can't leave Ashley alone and Ashley wants to drag their miserable existance a little longer, but knows it's impossible with how things stand. It's an inevitability if the twins don't learn to trust each other and get caught up in the decaying downward spiral.
>>521676525>twinskek i do the same mistake all the time too
>>521676230That's life. Sometimes the dice don't roll the way we want. Andrew banged Leyley. They jumped from a balcony and landed in front of some kids. There it is.
>>521676525>the twins
>>521676434Possibly, but again: shit's just too unresolved.>>521676525>twinsEither way yeah, it's a bit too tragic for my blood.
>>521676461It's good, isn't it? That this edgy incest game can evoke such strong emotions.>>521676686>implying it's a mistake
>>521676230>it's a good dead endOne could call it the deadest end!
>>521674303We are all about fucking sis...Actually never mind, sisterdaughterwives are game.Someone should write a time travel fanfic where Andrew sacrifices himself to fuck his mother just to make Ashley his real daughter/sister
>>521676525>TwinsHoly NEWFAG...
>>521676905>time travel>momcestYour suggestion could not get worse.
>>521676932She's way into beaing a beaten housewife, it's actually kind of weird.
>>521676461IF WE DIE IN EACH OTHER'S ARMSSTILL GET LAID IN THE AFTERLIFE
>>521676971multiverse
>>521675052She is not evil.She is a neglectful selfish bitch who blames everyone else for problems she caused herself, but she is not evil.
>twinsBAAAAAAAAAAKA
>>521676697it's the perfect ending. if you turned this route into a screenplay it'd definitely get made and make lots of money. it's the most coherent well-written path of the game so far.
>>521676967>I've unironically jerked off to a picture of her face beforeThat's kind of romantic, I suppose.
>>521676971The mothercest is a price I got to pay for some daughtercest.
>>521676813Yes. *This* is what millennial writing should be. The spoken, metaphorical word against the physical reality. Leyley, goaded by Andrew, is almost excited to traumatize some children with their own suicide. Andrew dies laughing. Leyley dies holding onto her brother, eyes shut in fear, probably wondering how the fuck things got so bad.
>>521670692>is only making me want to fuck her so good she starts oinkingFrighteningly based
Why are there two active threads with almost the same number of postsJust stick to one already.
>>521677418>dude would probably be happy to quit that roleWELL MAYBE HE SHOULD STOP HITTING HER!
>>521677248I agree. It's a shame the incest is so taboo that it overshadows the core of the writing, which is phenomenal. Largely in part to the characters Nemlei has created. Andrew is a despicable, murderous dog. Yet we cheer for him anyway. Most of us want him to be happy with his sister wife. The SPLAT shows us that Leyley needs to mature into Ashley, or all is lost.
>>521677418He's also not into putting up with Ashley's shit so that's a choice he keeps making. Before playing this I never suspected I would have empathized with a wife beater, but here we are. Actually no, there was also "The Wall."
>>521677248>it's the most coherent well-written path of the game so far.For me its S&S
>>521677298Coffin is one of the best written games of the millenium
>>521677560This one is rightful /calg/ clay, the other is a haggot coup attempt.
>>521676813>It's good, isn't it?not him but i really don't know how nemlei writes this game so wellshe probably did a faustian deal
>>521677287daughtercest is also shit.>>521677080Impressive, you've got me there.
>>521677080THE NEMLEIVERSE IS REALIT'S REEEEEEEEEEAL
>>521677697>It'll come out when it comes out.
SNS is peak fiction, you *will* build a ryona family with your sister-wife
>>521677560The other thread has /pol/ racefaggotry
>>521677893Teenager daughters > Sisters > Aunts > Moms > Cousins > Grandmoms > Kiddy DaughtersDefinitive incest tierlist
>>521677715>>521678024This game has broken me. I have begun saying "n' such" when talking about multiple things.
>>521678150More accurately:>troll thread made by mexican redditor angry that we made fun of his mod every time he tried to shill it>off-topic /pol/ racebait schizophrenia to keep it bumpedSame as it ever was.>>521678187Daughtercest, really just childcest in general, is bad because it violates the sacred duty of parenthood. It's not a blessing of luck the way being born with a sibling is, it's a certainty that if you exist you have a parent, and because of that it's not divine providence but just simple grooming, or at best abuse via theft of youth.
>>521678249I've had to stop myself from defending incest publically because of this game
>>521678150Um, southern Italian is not a race
>>521677282Thanks? If it helps, I've written poetry about her before (which I will not be putting online as it's been put elsewhere IRL attached to my name), it's not just me being horny.
>>521678202>He could also choose to unpack all his mental bullshit and have a genuine go at fixing it all but he already refused to even try despite knowing that's path forwardThat's the cliffhanger and getting there hinges on Ashley's choice, not his, which I think is pretty telling.
>>521676461Playing SNS/Splat after playing the Cliffhanger route if fucking wild. It's way more impactful to play this way when you have all this mystery and tension set up, only to watch Andrew go fucking ballistic and start wrecking up the demon home as well is crazy
>>521678493I'm from the United States east coast, yes the fuck it is. Them damn dago wops are a menace. Good ass food though.
>>521678526That's a little better. What does she think about all this? Does she even know?
>>521678526Don't be a pussy! Post at least part of the poem
>>521678526Do you spy on her in the shower?
>>521678526Based sisterlover, I'm rooting for you anon! Give your sister a big old hug and a kiss on the cheek!
The only thing Andrew did wrong was be too good to Ashley
>>521678526That love will ruin your life. Find a gf or something and get over your sister.
>>521678920You know, I've seen this image for over a year but have never thought to ask if there's more to it.Is there?
>>521679109Yeah, I guess that's true. LU is kind of based, huh.
>>521678447I *don't* stop myself when it comes to brother/sister
>>521679170>Find a gf or something and get over your sister.Shut UP, Julia
What if lord unknown makes andrew rape ashley or else he steals both their souls
>>521678983The only thing Andrew did wrong was:>repress his feelings>reject his sister at one of the most critical junctures of her development, abruptly and cruelly>channel his anger, confusion, lust, and hatred into a girl who (as far as we know, for now) didn't do him any wrong>beat the shit out of his incredibly weak and defenseless sister>get raped like a bitch by said sisterYeah yeah I know Ashley had some of it coming, but beating the shit out of a woman less threatening than a housecat is just a childish temper tantrum.>>521679187Not as far as I know. It's just Ashley cheek squishing because sisters are so goddamn cute it hurts.
>>521679170Silence, Slampig.
>>521679109Huh, I guess LU has already helped Andrew in a major way by brute forcing character development.
>>521679442I'm going to lose my absolute shit if it turns out the demons were unironically just being helpful and reasonable in their dealings with the siblings. In a good way, mind you.
>>521679345But how do you do it without coming across as a creep?>who cares about normalfag opinions?Appearing normal is how you change minds
>>521678778>Does she even know?She does not know. Based on a few conversations where incest has come up, it seems that the concept grosses her out.>>521678786Given that we're siblings, we look vaguely similar. A large part of the poem was comparing our features (eg our hair) and making a contrast of my feelings on the matter. The poem wasn't in English, so here's the end: "Why is every reason to hate me // a reason to love you?" >>521678834No, but it's not like I can. I also don't really want to, it's sort of the same issue that Andrew has: I'd like it to be consensual.>>521678920She doesn't even like hugs>>521679170I have had 5 girlfriends through my life. Admittedly, three of them were when I was in school. Even if I'd gotten over her in the past, it comes back and it's not exactly easy to ignore, especially since she lives with me now. Honestly, I've kind of made peace with pining. Not like she's likely to move out anyhow.
>>521679170>just stop loving someoneWow thanks anon, thats such great adviceWhat're gonna do next, cure depression by telling everyone to just be happy?
>>521679562>Appearing normal is how you change mindsNo, changing minds is about normalizing, not appearing normal. It's an important distinction. Ask a room full of people to raise their hand if their favorite color is green and I PROMISE at least a quarter to a third of them will look around first to see if anyone else raises their hand. It's about creating the illusion of consensus, not being right, wrong, or reasonable.
>>521679640>Yes.
>>521679553They're not demons, they're entities. *cough* retcon It's thematically kind of weird, but it's possible they're benevolent beings.
>>521679619If you love your sister so much you won't fuck up her life by humoring any kind of intimate relationship
>>521679793Right, but if you come across as a weirdo pervert, people will shut you out without listening to your reasoning
>>521679837>it's possible they're benevolent beings.Let's not go that far, but if the entity/demon distinction is for a reason then I can see that subverting the typical "Let's make a deal" faustian bargain by having the exchange be equitable.>>521679916>but if you come across as a weirdo pervert, people will shut you out without listening to your reasoningAnon, look at the state of any western country and repeat that in a mirror with a straight face.
>>521679619It fucking pisses me off to see anons who are close with their sister. There's no "without doing XYZ" to add to that. I just hate seeing people who have a cute sister in their lives. Fuck you
>>521680115go outside
>>521679850Which is why I've not told her and she just lives with me
>>521680220I have, that's why I'm certain I'm correct.
>>521680220NTA but who would ever do that?
>>521679619>I have had 5 girlfriends through my life. Admittedly, three of them were when I was in school. Even if I'd gotten over her in the past, it comes back and it's not exactly easy to ignore, especially since she lives with me now. Honestly, I've kind of made peace with pining. Not like she's likely to move out anyhow.Well, I hope you resolve these feelings in some way.>>521679640Alright I admit, I never really felt any romantic love, so I can't be trusted with those questions.
>>521680407>the fact it came alongside a very marketable plushie redesign for the soulsI will buy every fucking entity plush for my sister (I'm keeping the ??? plushie) I swear to God NemNems MAKE IT HAPPEN
>>521680324you’re in a thread with degenerates fapping to degenerate thoughts over a degenerate game (myself included). why are you moralfagging about western society no longer being puritanistic
>>521679553My bet is that each demon will take a supporting and an antagonistic role depending on the route.While LU being a ally is up in the air it's very clear that ??? is a Decay antagonist.>>521679837>retconThe term was used for them in-game before episode 3 was even released.
>>521680407>It's more like a rebrand honestly at that point.NTA but it felt like a way of having Andrew and Ashley actually talk about ???. I mean, it doesn't really make sense when Ashley says "I don't give a shit that ____ choked" in the 302 argument. After all, what is she actually saying? So I think nemlei had to give ??? an actual name to make talking about him possible
>>521680407>marketable plushie redesign for the soulsThat might be cool, but my wishlist is a set of bunny plushies and a subtle "cry about it" t-shirt.
>>521680638There is at least one place in episode 2 where the term "demon" has been replaced with "entity."
>>521680586>why are you moralfagging about western society no longer being puritanisticWhy are you attributing some sort of malice or moral position about that? I said they're weirdo perverts, not evil, well except for the satan-worshipping pedophiles, but I generally don't have much of an issue with the fags.
>>521680638>The term was used for them in-game before episode 3 was even released.NTA but when?
>>521680896it’s obvious you have hangups about it
>>521681002Okay, you win, I'm deeply upset about homosexuality and am currently having a melty that gay people exist far away from me doing gay people things that have no meaningful impact on my life whatsoever. Well played, you fucking got me, champ, my straw body has been thoroughly incinerated.
>>521679619>The poem wasn't in EnglishWhat language?
>>521681196Stop trying to dox anon.
>>521681196I bet it's in Norwegian
>>521679562As the anon you replied to, I don't defend it rapidly. I work my way into their line of thinking and try to present it from a traditionally rational point of view. It's easier when you figure in modern divorce and infidelity rates. Over 75% of all non-sanguinious marriages fail bitterly. This, in turn, messes up the offspring mentally and emotionally so that they too are unlikely to find success in a loving marriage. A major cause of this is lack of trust (completely justified) in somebody who is, realistically, a stranger. Yet a brother and sister have a shared experience. Usually, they've lived the same home life, have gone through trials and tribulations with each other, and know intimately how the other one thinks. There is less risk of betrayal there. Furthermore, there is a mutual obligation to make sure that the partnership (as marriage wouldn't be allowed) is successful. Not just for the sake of any children they might produce, as we have seen this is not enough to hold together most traditional relationships, but for the sake of blood and kin.
Andrew uses condoms with Julia but does it raw with Ashley.
>>521681196>>521681449It's written in Shabazzian Arabic transcribed from a text dredged up from Yakub's Patmos eugenics lab, which in fact prophesized the exact release of every chapter of TCoAaL.
>>521681392Sorry, I'm not trying. I was just genuinely curious about the non-American anons ITT
>>521681614Cool, so what is Decay part release date?
>>521681548They're unopened because he made Julia buy them, but they were too small. Julia is getting raw dogged.
>>521681724>Julia is getting raw dogged.By me
>>521681715I don't know, I don't speak Shabazzi, he does, and he's not spilling the goddamn beans.
>>521681724>raw doggedNo wonder she broke up with Andrew, she found out he's bipedal and has a regular human penis.
>>521681724She’s sucking his dick. When it’s time for genital touching they will use a condom
>>521681615I am American, it just wasn't in English
>>521681615I'm non-American, what do you wanna know?
>>521681795Yeah, after she has had her fill from Andrew.
>>521682141Andrew's sloppy seconds...
>>521682096>what do you wanna know?How often do you guys have to replace your ground harnesses?
>>521681947Is she? I thought she was riding him.
>>521682314Anon... she still has all her clothes on
>>521681948Unless you're a giga language autist chances are you're not American, just some foreigner who happened to be born here.
>>521682235I don't have to do that, I'm not an Australian.
>>521682486Or he did it for French class, dweeb.
>>521682213I mean, I wouldn't mind. Even with microchimerism, my kid might be better off with some Graves features.
Andrew is jelly of a demon
>>521682417Where are her shorts?
>>521682812She's wearing pants. Her legs are visibly a different color than her arms
>>521682784Yes, and the ending implies emotional cuckoldry. Hence the drawing of Andy crying by himself in a coffin. His own. Not shared with Leyley.
>>521682784Pretty reasonable to be pissed off, Andrew has done everything for Ashley foe decades and she barely listens to him, but she never gives the same disrespectful attitude to the demon.
>>521683000
>Joker Ashley: Hussies get what they fucking deserve!
Why did it go so wrong for Andrew and Ashley?
>>521683000This is from S&S, not the Andy route, play the game.
>>521682939I think that's either scar tissue from all the cutting or an oversight. She's in a weird position to be sucking dick, and it looks more like she's getting pounded.
>>521683000>emotional cuckoldry.Man, trolls really are desperate for things to talk about
>>521682486I'm just an autist, although it's genuinely not too hard to pick up a second or third language desu
>>521683097It started when they were born.
>>521679837>nerd lurker warningJust want to note here Nemlei might've been inspired by Demon's root word in "Daimon", Greek for spirit and didn't indicate villainy or virtue. Perhaps thought labeling them as entities over demon would clue-in that you're dealing with a Spirit World with malicious entities rather than Hell itself.
>>521683097Andrew didn't fuck her earlier.
>>521683172>scar tissueOn her entire leg? Come on man>She's in a weird position to be sucking dickYou can practically see down her throat
>>521683172She's leaning forward while holding her ankles.
>>521683162I did and got the canon ending because I'm not a spineless cuck like you.
People are starting to say Andrew raped Ashley at some point?When could that of possibly happened?
>>521683347On her arm, retard, why the fuck would she cut her legs. Yeah, because she gasping from how good Andrew's massive cock feels thrusting into her cunt.
>>521683000>Yes, and the ending implies emotional cuckoldry.It's just Andrew being an insecure drama queen tho.
Andrew should've unironically stared beating Ashley as soon as they got out of the apartment, she wouldn't be giving him attitude or ignoring his requests if it means getting a black eye.
>>521683407At the end of shots and such
>>521683648The liquor bottle text?That said that she wanted him
>>521683407He never did but he should've
>>521683572>On her arm, retard, why the fuck would she cut her legs.LOOK at the image. Her arm is one color
>>521683386Lmao. Take another hit, jack.
>>521683728She was wasted
post andrew fluff NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>521683780Yeah, sleeves obscure the rest.
>>521683796hit of what?
>>521683951So why did you bring up scar tissue?
>>521683624They'd get arrested at the gas station lmao
>>521684042She cut up to her shoulders, the crazy bitch
>Ashley makes remarks about Andrew messing with her body in her sleep>Later on we see Andrew pulling on her bra strapsI've always suspected something was up about pic related for a long time. I was like, "why are her bra straps so loose?" Basically what I'm trying to say is I think Andrew probably groped her or played with her tits while she was in the demon realm.
>>521684210I mean, she's got a playground of a body.
>>521684210I wish that were me. But my sister is too light of a sleeper
>>521683971Sistussy
>>521683624beating leyley just reinforces her andrew wants ashley and hates leyley, which is why he puts up with leyley's bullshit it if means holding out hope for ashley to eventually shine throughbeating leyley would just cause a quicker devolution into some variation of sns with andrew taking out his rage and sexual desires on leyley with no ashley in sight
>>521683897Okay
>>521684317Jeet alert
Need an AU of Andrew as a were-mop where Ashley only loves Mopdrew and desperately tries to get him to be that way permanently
>>521684359>hands the size of her backYou just KNOW a woman drew this
>>521684105This is why the he should've started beating her ASAP, that way all the blemishes from the initial setting of precedent would've healed enough to not raise suspicion.
>>521684479
>>521684792Mopdrew is green. This is cuck porn.
>>521684329>beating leyley just reinforces herIt literally doesn't though?Getting slapped made Ashley drop the Andy shit in the car, getting pummeled in the apartment made her snap out of her crazy bitch tantrum, the game shows us that using force to force leyley into hiding works.
>>521684792So why DID Nemlei take the mop from us?Also, not enough love is given to wooden planks
>"Anders, I think it's time for you to learn how to drive..."
>>521683882Is all drunk sex rape?
>>521685038According to retards online, yes
>>521684964leyley is scared miserable wretch that desperately wants andrew to stay with herleyley also wants to manipulate andrew into staying as andy, hence why she keeps pushing for andyshe drops it once he shows her that he won't fall for her games any more and regresses into placating over manipulationboth manipulation and the placating are two sides of the same coin that are leyleyyou are fundamentally misunderstanding what leyley is if you think leyley is ever "in hiding" at those points of the game
>>521685385apparently if you ask someone over and over for sex and they eventually say yes that counts as rapein the 90s when coffin took place, women couldnt even technically commit rape
>>521683254>it steals and vores people's souls but it totally isn't evilOkay Ashley
>>521686026that is basically what Ashley did
>>521683648We've been over this. Ashley didn't rape Andrew because women cannot rape men
>>521677418Why delete?
>>521673407This is Piglia projection
>>521684359I'm not a woman but this is pretty hot.
>>521686537What's it called when Andrew says no? What's it called when Andrew is too drunk to be making decisions? If it's not "rape", give us another word.
Ashley didn't rape Andrew because an onii-san belongs to his imouto.
>>521686768>What's it called when Andrew says no?being a bitch>What's it called when Andrew is too drunk to be making decisions?he's not
>>521686768>What's it called when Andrew says no? He also said yes >What's it called when Andrew is too drunk to be making decisions?This straight up didn't happen. He was totally capable of making decisions>If it's not "rape", give us another word.At WORST, it was a minor sexual assault. In reality, it was just a drunken mistake
>>521686768coercive sex
>>521686908>>521686928In the Splat ending Andrew tells her "unlike you, I would never make you do something you didn't want to do".
>>521687064Anon, that's basically half of his life with her from his cope perspective. Not the rape.
>>521680263>Isn't nemlei a trannyno retard
>>521687064Talk is cheap. His actions showed that he wanted it>>521687069Being cajoled isn't being raped
>>521687258>His actions showed that he wanted itHe literally pushes her into missionary after he says he doesnt want tosuch a weird rape victim
>>521687280If she didn't want him to kill himself maybe she shouldn't have driven him to suicide. He didn't make her join him either, in fact he begs her to just get away from him for her own sake but she refuses to do it.
I heard someone pronounce Renee's name as Rainée and I'm dying imagining her reaction to it
>>521687431While he's beyond fucked up from alcohol
>>521686732>coffin>size difference pornI'm sorry anon, you're one of the gals now
>>521687431Yeah, he says no but then gets on top of Ashley and even makes sure to continue after she fakes an orgasm
i wish i had a brother for some source of male attention and affection. though i have a feeling my non-existent brother would be repulsive and/or hate me
>>521687674Just find a bf and roleplay with him
>>521687525>size difference porn>galsDo women fantasize about large beings ripping them in half with dongs the size of their thighs or something?
>>521681947They use a condom on the BJ too>>521681724Julia actually never had a dick inside her, just rubber
>>521687610Well gee, anon. If you're agreeing with me you've gotta make it a little clearer. I'm a dolt
>>521687824You ever see the Ancient Magus Bride? Women are into some freaky shit.
>>521687824...yes.
>>521687824>Do women fantasize about large beings ripping them in half with dongs the size of their thighsis water wet
>>521687824Yes, this is part of why people are insecure about their penises Anon
>>521687797>Just find a bflol.....lmao.......
Making sweet love with JuliaMaking Julia go oink oink
>>521688231Unless you're EXTREMELY fat and had a near-fatal encounter with the ugly bus, it's a relatively simple task.
>>521688417>Making Julia go oink oinkJulia is for cowprint and being made to moo
>>521688426>t. never got a bf
>>521688453>It's pretty vanilla as far as the romance goes. The magic gets freaky tho.I agree, but that's how I dipped my toes into the "and women call US coomers!" pool.
>>521688560I'm a straight man, but given the number of times I've been humbly propositioned to have my butt plundered at the gym I can only imagine that it can't be that hard.
>>521688671NTA, wanting to be railed and wanting a boyfriend is a different thing.
>>521688426>it's a relatively simple taskyou're right but there's a ton of reasons why it's not so muich of a simple task for me, mainly mental illness. i wouldn't be posting here if it were easy
>>521689193Hmmm, fair enough I guess, I don't really know your life so I can't just go and blindly tell you wiggling your ass at any given retard will get you what you want.
>>521684327Ashley in a beanie and in a comfy fur coat with little hand gloves to handle the northern climate after crossing the border and the escaping the united coffins of america
>>521672401>Not sure why artists insist on Andrew having a goatee.Andrew doesn’t appear to be the type to even keep one. I would rather see Andrew look naturally mature and older without just sticking a few extra hair follicles on the face and calling it a day.
>>521687476All she did was roast marshmallows on a camper. What a retarded thing to go apeshit over after all the things they've gotten through together. This wouldn't have happened with Andy
Would you rather be raised by Renee and Douglas or Andrew and Ashley?You cannot know if you will have siblings until after you're born
Ashley (not Leyley) will love her inbred kids.
>>521689779Well both sets of parents don't want you but Renee and Douglas aren't going to kill you or turn you into a soul harvester
>>521689728I'm going to be a bit controversial and say that for the most part the both of them acted like complete fucking retards for pretty much the entire chapter, to the point where it's jarring compared to their chapter 2 iterations. The writing is good in the sense that, within the confines of the box it's in it offers a compelling narrative, but the conflict itself feels a little contrived, and that's after due consideration being given to them being emotionally broken turbo retards.
>>521689779I'll take my chances with Andrew and Ashley, worst case scenario (S&S) they'll be too busy fighting each other and I'll just be a typical neglected kid.
>>521689779Well I'm a guy so there's a chance that Andrew would try after what he went through with his mother, I'm not a girl so I doubt Ashley would kill me, only neglect me completely.If I was a girl I'd take my chances with Renee and Douglas, Ashley will 100% kill and eat any daughters she has.
Imagine how nasty it must of been to kiss someone with booze/cig breath and on top of that have stinky sweaty drunk first-time sex with them. No wonder Ashley was turned off.
>>521689779I think I'll go with Andrew and Ashley. "Grass is always greener" and "Don't know what you have until you've lost it" taken into account, it's like a 50/50 chance for improvement in a good route or roughly the same as it already was.
>>521690179Even without all that Ashley would still be turned off because she's 'Leyley' in this route and not 'Ashley'
>>521690179Haha yeah... how disgusting...
>>521689779I was an easy child so Renee and Douglas might not mess me up too bad, but they wouldn't give a shit about me. Andrew and Ashley OTOH might actually be good parents in the route where I don't get aborted. But I also might eventually find out they're siblings and are/used to be serial killing cannibal demon summoners, maybe because they get caught and arrested for their crimes, which would fuck me up way worse than Renee and Douglas ever could. But that also might not happen. High risk high reward.I could flip a coin desu.
>>521690179Ashley looks so into it hereCould they have been okay if Andrew just fucked her?
>>521690307This image seems to imply that Ashley came out for a passionate moment but he freaked out again so she super regressed into Leyley.
>>521690003I guess it makes sense given that Andrew is the one making the logical decisions while Ashley does whatever without worrying about the consequences. That doesn't really work long term if Andrew is just getting exhausted overtime and starts not giving a shit himself
this hitta really fucked his virgin sister raw then called it "lame sex". i would fucking kill myself if i was ashley
>>521690482>Ashley came out for a passionate moment but he freaked out again so she super regressed into LeyleyShe even says "You rejected me again!" laterfucking bastard bitch Andrew
>>521690737I like the siblings, I want to bash that retard's head in with a brick though. Andrew is such a fucking bitch it's not even funny.
I really wonder what Lord Unknown wants with a Grime Soul. ??? acted very dismissive and said he doesnt want or need a Grime Soul and all but tells Andrew to fuck off. But Lord Unknown is at least more kind and even curious about them. And if both sides will be the cause of them seperating and the "Decay" is referring to the decay of their co-dependency. Ashley is already being won over by ??? by acting as someone she can vent to and Andrew is presumably going the same path by simply being shown some sympathy.It also makes me wonder what the differences are between a Grime and Tar Soul and how they both come to be.
>>521690908"Decay" is not referring to their codependency, newfag-kun.
>>521690908Lord Unknown is unironically just trying to be a real one. Mark my words.
>>521690179If Andrew didn't back off here he would have had that sex and intimacy that he always wanted. Makes me wonder if that would have completely turned him around from being a suicidal drunk
Does the shoot Andrew choice changes anything in the Andy path?To be honest I hated that whole ending a lot, I really don't want to play again just to to check.
>>521691090It doesn't.
>>521690908>>521691019You don't get that big by being stupid. It would have became more important to be able to manipulate people properly if it can no longer just pop into random people's rooms and steal souls via their obliviousness
>>521691334Lord Unknown is involved with Big Evil™. How do you get the best return on investment? A scam operation will net you higher profits but suffers long term instability as it becomes known that deals ALWAYS fuck you over. No, the best way to keep the machine of evil spinning is happy customers. Give the people what they want.
>>521690440>their entire relationship is ruined because of a retarded hentai lineAshley does it again
>>521691563>Nevermind, you suck at kissing.>proceeds to insult the lack of technique of a kissless virginYou're not shifting blame onto Ashley again, Fagdrew.
>>521686928>He also said yesThen he said no and stop right after
>>521691861Yeah, but he DID say yes at one point, which means it's fair game.
>>521691563>>521691847She tries her best but she can't be the floozy he needs her to be.
>>521692000The best part of sex with an inexperienced partner is learning together. In fact, it's more fun if the sex isn't great the first time because you can laugh about it afterward.
>>521691861>he said yes and noSo his words are a poor source, let us look at his actions.>reciprocated and climbed on top of herIt quacks like consent
>>521691563
Andrew Graves messed up but how would Andrew Dobson fair better?
>>521692131I know that, but Ashley doesn't.
>>521692262His actions are also that he got off her while also saying "I don't want to" and "stop"
>>521692326It's frustrating. If Ashley knew what a goddess she was, Andrew would be fucking cooked.
>Not like this....Is this because he wanted his first time with Ashley to be actually intimate or did he just want It to be an accident for him to feel less guilty about?
>>521692473>Is this because he wanted his first time with Ashley to be actually intimateYes.
>>521692405He flip-flopped, so what? Ultimately, he decided to do it
>>521692473Andrew is a litfag. He probably imagined it would be more romantic.
>>521689779There's going to be a huge variation in outcome for Andrew and Ashley's kid depending on which ending they get.
>>521692473>Is this because he wanted his first time with Ashley to be actually intimateThis one. He even went back for round2 the next day to try and redo it but that enthusiasm was already burnt out when the bruises, bad sex, and generally being Leyley caught up with the situation.
>>521690485it's called decay for a reason...
>>521691563Then he's like, "Let's just forget about this whole thing"Motherfucker
>>521692326They'll get a proper first time and it WILL be everything they could possibly want.
>>521671352Remember, Andrew and Ashely are in their own silent hill
>>521690908>newest /calg/-sona is black woman Lord Unknownhot...
>>521691557Should tell ??? that because his business model with Ashley is to consume his customers for having slightly inconvenient desires.
>>521692730He clearly didn't
>>521689779I spent almost my entire childhood on my computer and I barely had any connection with my parents, let alone anyone else in my life. A&A would have me in a time period here electronics are cheap, so I'd rather have them.
>>521693563Yeah, he clearly didn't get on top of her while lucid enough to know she faked an orgasm and feeling good enough to want to do it again the next day
>>521693651If it's S&S mistakes into miracles into mistakes pregnancy, than the only thing you're getting is a smack upside the head for expecting them to spend money on electronics and also drive the electricity bill up.
>>521688527I know and i agree with you, but it seems the consensus for some is that shes piggyBut i am fully on Moolia team
>>521693651Damn, no wonder we zoomers are a fucked generation with a common upbringing like that.
>>521694029>consensus for some is that shes piggya pig for slamming, if you will
>>521689779Renee and Douglas so im not a cannibal incest baby
>>521689779Andrew and Ashley so I can be statistically fine from 1 generation of inbreeding and partake in cannibalism
do women really bleed on their first time?
>>521693859I was raised in a broken household with a drug addict father by people who are below the poverty line and I still always had access to a computer, the internet, and a games console with like two games. If they can't afford a cheap piece of shit PC then they are living worse off than the most broke niggers in some inner city shithole. That just seems unrealistic, honestly.
>>521694116Only on quiet nights
>>521694312Not all the time. Sometimes other things can cause their cherry to pop without intercourse
>>521694452kys fag
>>521694312Depends if the hymen didn't break at some point and the amount on the woman themself.
>>521694452You fucking wanker, go advertise for a girlfriend on RuneScape where you're supposed to
>>521694525This place is turning into /soc/ since that hole sent pictures the other day.
>>521694029>it seems the consensus for some is that shes piggyThey just use that as an insult. I wish they'd say cow, because pigprint underwear isn't a thing
>>521694312If they still have a hymen, yesBut a hymen can break during normal activities too. It's very fragile>>521694775Very true, i still need to finish my cow print bikini Julia drawing but as i said earlier this oink pig Julia thing is only making me want to fuck her so good she starts oinking
Andrew and Ashley force feeding Julia a delicious meal of Jane.
I don't know how people can play a game like this without having someone to hug at the end of the day. These endings are getting pretty miserable
>>521695176>I don't know how people can play a game like this without having someone to hug at the end of the day.I do it by having somebody to hug at the end of the day. I'm waiting until 4a to tell my cutie patootie imoutie about the game though because she hates misery porn more than I do and I'm screening it for her.
>>521695176It's called a crywank.
>>521695176I use this game and fantasies as a surrogate for intimacy. Once in a while it breaks down and I reply to posts like >>521695565 with hateful messages about how jealous I am
>>521695176i've watched sadder things than andy & leyley. it helps that it's written as a black comedy
>>521695176The writing is pretty good and all but it's not that deep. It's a black comedy game even
>>521695176>without having someone to hug at the end of the day.I have been and always will be alone.
>>521694975>only making me want to fuck her so good she starts oinkingYou and me both brother. What I wouldn't give to watch her beet red face quietly oink because she's embarrassed before making her feel so good she starts to do it louder and louder. Just imagine the post-sex cuddles with her all mad that you made her do something so perverted
I hate lonely posting hours...
>>521696526Thiuposting is BACK
>>521696420>What I wouldn't give to watch her beet red face quietly oink because she's embarrassed before making her feel so good she starts to do it louder and louder. Just imagine the post-sex cuddles with her all mad that you made her do something so pervertedFucking hell, this is triggering my inner goose really hard. I'm going to smoke and go to sleepGood night /calg/
>>521696643>this is triggering my inner goose really hardI am nothing if not a goose with a keyboardOyasumi
>>521693734He said he could barely remember what happened when he woke up
>>521672619Its because the artists are hacks who arent capable of drawing mature men. Even here Andrew doesnt look like a father in his 30s, he still looks like a guy in his twenties but with shitty facial hair
>>521695176I cannot remember being hugged once, anon
>>521673407>brother, may I have some oats
>>521697187
>>521696907Again, at worst it was a drunken mistake
>>521696623Billions must fuck themselves
>>521697346no one adding you gng [crying emoji] [praying emoji]
>>521697346Buy an ad, faggot
>>521697346Total nigger retard moment! XD
>>521690908??? is a lesser entity trying to stack up souls. A tar soul like Ashley or Surgeon are useful for gathering souls.Lord Unknown is significantly more powerful than ??? and doesnt need to gather souls. ??? complains that most the cult summonings have nothing to offer, but Lord Unknown comes to a child only to give.
Would Julia really not mourn Andrew if he died, or did she just say that to hurt him?
>>521698496>did she just say that to hurt him?She never thought he'd read the letter. She meant itAnd good, he doesn't deserve to be mourned
>>521689728>All she did was roast marshmallows on a camperDesu ne I was disappointed that THATS what caused Andrew to kill his sis in the decay vision. I was expecting she did something really bad like kill Julia.
>>521698715this
>>521698496The letter was not meant to be read, it was just a venting thing. That's why she told him to read it when she left and not in front of her, it would just be too embarrassing and impossible for her to explain.
I wonder how much money Nemlei will have made after the game is finished. She's doing very well for herself considering the sort of project this is. How much does she even need to pay the publisher, isn't it just her husband acting as a front to throw off the harassment she was getting? After that, I think the only other expense was the initial $100 price to put the game on Steam.
>>521689728>>521698726It's not about the marshmallows, it's about sending a message the situation as a whole. Andrew asked her NOT to kill anyone, and once again she broke her word while the cops are rushing to their location. Given everything else they've been through, it was just the straw that broke the camel's back
>>521699006I don't really care desu.
>>521699093If that were true you would not reply.
>>521699006kit9 is nemleisteam gets 30% of the sales, outside of that she's getting 100% of the profit. she's probably sitting around 15 million dollars
>>521699006>$6.3m gross revenueI can't believe I found this game when it was free on Itch. It feels amazing to have stuck with Nemlei from literalwho indie dev through to accomplishing the dream of making millions on a passion project. I'm so fucking happy for her. She really did it. We went from the pre ch2 devlogs saying that things would have to slow down because of real life to Nemlei being able to make Coffin full time.
>>521699228>15 million5*i fucked up. 15 is when she releases the parents prequel spin off and 30 when she releases the Julia dating simulator
>>521699198Fuck off Nemlei you gave me the option to say I don't care when searching the trash can, you can't complain when I choose it.
>>521699042Ashley was alone in the middle of the woods so she assumed it was safe. Its not her fault Andrew got outsmarted by a child!
>>521699597Maybe if Ashley fucking LISTENED and didn't do her own thing as soon as Andrew turned away, he wouldn't have to fucking MURDER HER
>>521699683Maybe if Andrew said something WORTH A SHIT she would listen to him more often.
>>521699683Its Andrews fault for leaving a cannibal alone with unconscious bodies and a roaring camp fire. If he didnt want her to kill them, why did she leave them within her reach?
>>521699947I'm sorry, but I think you meant to say "I'm sorry Andrew, I'll do better! Please don't murder me even though I deserve it!"
>>521700109>t. Renée
>>521699947>>521700109THAT'S IT*grabs cleaver*
>>521700194Its Renee you dumb cunt
I really hate when people draw older Andrew with stubble
>>521700276Rainy?
>>521700276Not my problem, Rengay
>>521678249Didn't this line get changed
>>521700461Anon, it was never real
Andrew deciding to kill Ashley is out of character. Appropriately, that path is not canon.
>>521700750Killing Ashley is also a suicide ending for him as he cannot live without her. As such, it is canon.
works/64382584/chapters/166097200#workskinPsycho Andrew killing Julia and his kids with her to bring back Ashley.
Maybe Finland is massively different than America but can someone explain how Douglas losing his cashier job was a big deal at all? I'm assuming it's minimum wage there, why not just work literally anywhere else? It's implied he was thinking about killing himself
I think, to Andrew, being normal kinda means being without problems.In flashbacks, he's shown consistently to prefer to avoid subjects where he could admit to things that aren't really that bad(like his parents being unable to afford cards, fake apologize to the hag), he wanted to sneakily wash Ashley off without anyone seeing she got muddied, despite there arguably being a better way to do it.Andrew is just pathologically unable to really open up about anything that bothers him, mostly because when he tried it with Renee, she's shut him down.I think this is also why he both hates and loves Ashley:Like with everyone else, he'd rather not open up to her about things that really bother him(at least beyond the extent that he finds comfortable discussing with her), but she's perceptive enough to know.She's able to tell these things without him having to pull these admissions out of himself.On the one hand, it's something he appreciates about Ashley a great deal because to him it shows she cares, and he doesn't have to grapple with himself.But on the other, it also means that it's borderline impossible to hide issues from Ashley, and she just can't accept the idea of her not sharing his burdens with him, because to her, that's kind of what love is, as she's always kinda imagined them being married, and she wants to make him happy.Paradoxically, being normal, means being without problems, without Leyley, without his feelings for Ashley.But Ashley is his everything, so without his problems, he's nothing.(pic related), when he lived with Julia, when he hasn't spoken to Ashley for a year, he's got the experience of what it means to live in his definition of normal:He doesn't just look depressed, he's completely empty inside, he can't even bear to look at himself because there's nothing there anymore.Andrew taking up LU's offer would turn him into an empty shell, an Andy who would do anything for his new parent, and I think this is why LU is intrigued by him.
>>521700194
and when he tried it with Doug, Doug was just comically clueless enough that Andrew saw no further point .Doug's inability to connect with Andrew made Andrew despise him, and project most of his own insecurities onto him, even though they're untrue.He sees doug as a spineless follower, even though we see that him and Renee have an equal partnership, and he has just as much of a say in the matters as Renee does(in fact, selling out kids was ultimately his suggestion, not Rene's), but Andrew can't see Doug for who he and ses himself in him, despite showing more affection to him than Renee.unlike Andrew, Doug had the courage to leave his parents and start a family with Renee, and he consistently defends her to everyone while Andrew is still clinging on to the idea of him being able to turn out better had he just forsaken Ashley
>>521701907I think you hit the nail on the head here, I was thinking that with the mud incident. In any normal family it would just be "The kids are being silly and made a mess, good thing we brought extra clothes." But Renee resented her kids so much that it was treated as severely as them slashing her tires or something
>>521702023With pleasure
WHICH THREAD, I just finished work. I went on this one since it has more replies
>>521701656I get the sense it's not so much about the money as Doug not having much love for himself. He got shitcanned from from a minimum wage job any retard off the street can get. His wife is working full time to support the kids but he isn't. The best he can do is get another minimum wage job any retard off the street can get and go back to "only" being broke and exhausted all the time. The poor guy doesn't have a lot of joy in his life.
>>521702945This is the right thread.
Friend B is the ultimate victor of Coffin. Sufficiently attractive, economically secure, emotionally stable, romantically elated, mentally healthy, spiritually pure, and, with his wife expecting, genetically successful. Guy recognises Andrew years later and picks up like they spoke yesterday, meanwhile Andrew can't even remember the guy's name, gives him $20 purely out of the kindness of his heart, and just asks him to take care of himself.
>>521703470imagine if they become neighbors in Cliffhanger ending and he'd have to pretend he doesn't know Andrew and Ashley are siblings, or else
>>521703470Meanwhile, Douchebag becomes a bargain bin hitman and gets no-diffed by the sitty that is Andrew, what a fail.Andrew probably always wanted to kill him but he was so insignificant andrew didn't even recognize him, if it was him.
>>521703470B is just a good guy. Even when everyone else turned against Andy in highschool, he didn't join them. It's a shame that Andy just can't bring himself to care about anyone but Ashley, or they could've been (real) friends.
>>521704048I think a part of it is because he knows Friend B only likes he facade of Andrew, and not real him.There's also the fact that he also smack talks Ashley, and Andrew deep down doesn't like it, he kinda comes across as feeling only him can do that.That, and it confirms to him Friend B wouldn't accept real him if it's how he reacts to Ashley.
>>521703889Its definitely him. The only reason Andrew lived was because he was surprised his target was Andrew
>>521693117This. After everything in S&S/Splat I need sweet sappy A&A lovemaking.
>>521704189>I think a part of it is because he knows Friend B only likes he facade of Andrew, and not real him.NTA but that's 100% Andrew's fault. Andrew never showed the real him to Friend B, so it's not B's fault that he never accepted it
Questionable route will be the SnS/Splat of the Burial branch
>>521704485Yeah, as Andrew himself admits, he pathologically can't open up to anyone, even Ashley.It's why he loves Ashley, she can see through him and he doesn't have to grapple with it.I think Andrew just has a lot of self loathing and doesnt think anyone would accept the real him, and while Ashley would, he thinks he'd harm her, and his entire identity has been built around being her protector.Even when he found out about rumors about them, the first thing that came to his mind was that Ashley was being bullied.And rumors themselves claimed he hurt/raped her, which I think he hated the most .
This actually makes me think.So far, each time Andrew has reacted negatively to the prospects of Ashley being with someone it was always from the view of him thinking she'd be taken advantage of.Douchebag saw Ashley as an easy lay, and I think it wasn't even as much as him being jealous as he was scared for her.Wardens are creeps who oggled her.He protects her from prositution in general.But what would've he been like if there was someone who genuenly liked Ashley?Would he let her go, breaking his heart, or would he contrive something to make himself htink he's a bad person?
>>521703665Doubt he'll ever show up again in the present day since I'm pretty sure he's solely there to show Andrew how fucked his life is and what he should be like, but can't be due to his parents, Ashley, and himself, but I would love for another reunion, even if it's as fleeting as this one was. The amount of people remaining for Andrew to properly reflect on how far he's fallen was always a short list and keeps getting shorter, especially with with Julia's letter proving she genuinely will have nothing more to do with him, to the point where Andrew actually fails to reel her back in even while in person>>521704189Andrew never presented anything else to anybody. As for B not accepting the "real him", anon, Andrew doesn't accept himself. Cliffhanger shows that a literal eldritch entity many times more powerful than anything seen the setting so far in has to brute-force his typical mental defenses in order to simply open him up to seeing it for what it is, and at the end of it he's still disgusted by it, by himself. And for being annoyed by his comments on Ashley, while true, Andrew himself knows that Ashley brings it on herself, and in that same scene in the cafeteria says he wants to punch Ashley sometimes as well; I think that if he ever told B to not say stuff like that about his sister, he'd honor it; hell, B outright defends Andrew AND Ashley's behavior to Douchebag without knowing anyone else is listening, which shows he's not the kind of person who'd just talk behind Andrew's back. I feel like if ANYONE outside of the Graves family was EVER going to be workable as a friend for Andrew, it was B, but Andrew didn't try. He hardly tried for Julia, and though he tries for Ashley, even that is severely half-assed compared to what Ashley tries for him, let alone what Renee and Douglas have with one another. Andrew's just a very flaky, non-committal person
>>521702127I think that if Andrew came up front instead of trying to sneak around, Renée wouldn't have reacted so harsh, or maybe I'm naively optimistic, since she was looking for an excuse to put him in gardening duty anyway
>>521705445I do hope that they meet again in Cliffhanger and Andrew becomes pleasantly surprised he just accepts them.Maybe it's when he'd start seeing him with a name than just friend B.
>>521704559That's probably accurate and I'm going to be salty about it. Unless it's kino in the same way S&S was, then I'll probably get over it.What I wanna know is why you're "rewarded" with a star for interactions that seem to deepen Andrew and Ashley's relationship like the phone call or especially making Ashley the bride on the cake but you get a skull icon for Questionable door, it seems like a weird incongruity to me.>>521705415>Would he let her go, breaking his heart, or would he contrive something to make himself htink he's a bad person?I feel like probably the latter, though depending on the circumstances it might be possible for him to come around in time. Given what we're shown in Andrew's psyche in Decay though it might still be a wound that never really heals.
Can't make it another day without a sister to love, I'd settle for a cousin at this pointWhy did God give me this suffering fate
>>521703889Never thought of this but I like it
>>521705502>maybe I'm being naively optimistic100%. Ashley coming in all dirty would, in Renee's mind, be embarrassing, it'd "prove" the grandfather right, that she's not a good mom who can handle her kids, and Renee hates her social image being, pardon the pun, tarnished. Andrew wouldn't have bothered trying to sneak Ashley in if he didn't think their mom would blow up, but he did, and Ashley never questioned why they had to sneak in, she just understood, agreed, and waited for him to figure it out. Additionally, Renee was mainly pissed because Ashley got out of the house without Andrew watching her, because he wasn't being a helicopter-parent; it's the exact the line of questioning she hits him with, and once he admits she left without him watching her, he was finished. It's honestly heartbreaking
>>521705852Anon just go out and meet somebody. It's hard but not that hard.
>>521704795>I think Andrew just has a lot of self loathing and doesnt think anyone would accept the real himHe is, dare I say it, literally me
>>521705852well...maybe a girl you're not related to would be okay?
>>521705739>What I wanna know is why you're "rewarded" with a star for interactions that seem to deepen Andrew and Ashley's relationship like the phone call or especially making Ashley the bride on the cake but you get a skull icon for Questionable door, it seems like a weird incongruity to me.I think it depends entirely on what Nemlei is planning. The big reason for the change, I think, is due to Nemlei's comments about "burying one's problems." It's possible that the questionable route is not necessarily deepening their relationship, but rather something a bit more superficial which doesn't really "fix" the relationship so much as it does circumvent the issues entirely. I *hope* that's what Nemlei is going for, and made the change to clarify that point so people didn't go into it expecting gooey sappy lovey dovey shit and it all goes down the toilet because of how fragile it is.>>521706272NTA but talking to women is scary, which is why I spend most of my time saying blatantly offensive shit to drive them away.
>>521706272I'd rather jihad myself mentosing a pepsi factory than ever have to settle so lowly for a Julia
>>521701907>Andrew is just pathologically unable to really open up about anything that bothers him, mostly because when he tried it with Renee, she's shut him down.God, this is too fucking relatable. I still can't open up to my parents. When I was a kid, disagreeing with them was enough to get me in trouble. If I said A and my dad said B, there was never any room for discussion. Either I said B with a smile, or I got the belt. It's turned me into a reflexive liar. I keep catching myself telling pointless lies I don't even care about as a reflex instead of telling people the truth. Then, I find I MUST maintain the lie because being known as a lair is scaryHow am I supposed to avoid the "Andrew dindu nuffin" mindset when I just fucking GET him? I need an Ashley. My sister doesn't see right through me, we barely talk. I need somebody who understands me and loves me for it
>>521704795doesn't this mean ashley is just happy thiu in a way
>>521706249This Avoiding shit like that is because of experience with irrational adults
>>521706720I feel you there too. I didn't get beat (that badly or often) but I was always a quiet kid and was never one to talk back, and I feel like I'm still trying to break that tendency as an adult.
>>521706505Only if she shares enough of the same physical appearance as me
>>521705739Because Questionable is Ashley controlling via the act of sex, or a lack of ability or desire to show trust. Mark my words, Sane will have Ashley let him go - and he'll come right back to her of his own accord, proving her fears all along wrong.
>>521701907>>521702060I think I picked up on that too because I see myself in the mirror when it comes to that sort of coping mechanism in regards to "normalcy", not that my situation is nearly as fucked up as Andrew. Being "normal" or "good" just means staying out of trouble and doing everything in your power to do so.I'm glad someone else is seeing Doug as a piece of shit too. I can understand logically there's nothing Renee or Doug could do about A&A stuck in the apartment but he is just so cowardly about it that it really doesn't paint him in a good light. His face to A&A is a lot better than Renee, but he still was completely absent to them. The only reason they gave him any sort of "respect" I see cited by everyone else in the flashback of Andrew fighting with Ashley in the bathroom is because he's not putting the emotional belt on either of the two like Renee has for better or worse. Call it daddy issues or whatever but I can understand why they don't *really* have respect for him since I had similar feelings about my own dad growing up. Doesn't mean I hate him, just the apathy.
>>521707734>Sane will have Ashley let him go - and he'll come right back to her of his own accord, proving her fears all along wrong.I would like that. I really just want to see them finally be honest with each other.
>>521706865Thiu and Ashley do share a lot of design similarity, and I think Ashley's for whatever reason that always made sense to her, internalized herself and Andrew as one
Songs that Andrew would listen too if his name was Andres insteadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Akpf1ph2oYou areWhat I love the most in this world, that's what you areMy deepest thought, as well, you areJust tell me what I do, here you have meYou areWhen I wake up, the first thing, that's what you areWhat's missing in my life if you don't comeThe only precious thing that dwells in my mind todayWhat more can I tell you? Maybe I can lie to you for no reasonBut what I feel todayIs that without you I'm dead, because you areWhat I love most in this world, that's what you areYou areThe time I share, that's what you areWhat people promise when they love each other. My salvation, my hope, and my faithI amThe one who loves you like no one else, I amThe one who would bring you sustenance day by day, day by dayThe one who would give his life for you, that's who I amHere I am, by your sideAnd I wait, sitting here, until the endYou haven't imaginedWhat I've waited for you, because you areWhat I love in this world, that's what you areEvery minute, what I think about, that's what you areWhat I care for the most in this world, that's what you areTranslations for convenience sake
>>521672401I get wish fulfilment, but I honestly don't get this and have never seen it working out. Can someone explain to me why any end where they get together, no matter how happy, wouldn't have them abort every last baby just like in SnS? I feel like both of them are completely burnt on the idea of childrearing itself. Leyley's too selfish to want to share attention with a child, regardless of gender, and Andy is too intimidated by the fear of being repeating his parent's behavior
>>521708568see >>521689883
>>521707786I think both andrew and ashley despise Doug, but i think he's also the worse person of them, like selling their kids off.Renee at least had doubts, and wanted to do better.it's Doug who told her it's fine and that she should take an easy way out.Every.Single.Time.He prevented her from doing self-reflecting, trying to do better because he wanted to coddle her, because hethought he's paying back kindness she's giving him.
>>521705445It's definitely no accident that B doesn't even have a name. The one guy that actually seems kinda decent to Andrew and he still doesn't even acknowledge him at all. Showing Andrew as being unable to truly relate to anyone else to the extent it also shows he's an asshole for not acknowledging one of the few people that is actually a decent guy to him, It's so simple but multi-layered it's genius.>>521705502Nah, Renee would come up with anything to scream at Andrew unless he was squeaky clean perfect and that's the point of showing him try to evade it.>>521705739>What I wanna know is why you're "rewarded" with a star for interactions that seem to deepen Andrew and Ashley's relationship like the phone call or especially making Ashley the bride on the cake but you get a skull icon for Questionable door, it seems like a weird incongruity to me.This is a route choice not a star choice. The star actions don't seem to affect the storyline at all regardless what other actions you make but picking a door is like deciding on if you shoot andrew or not in Decay's vision.
>>521708826I do kinda hope that in the cliffhanger good ending, Ashley and Andrew come across Friend B and he accepts them, which surrpises Andrew.Would be a nice way to narratively reward his opening up, and showing not everyone is a judgemental prick, maybe he'd even register with a name to Andrew.
>>521683097Wait. Is friend b the surgeon?
>>521708665Explains nothing. While any "positive" ending for Ashely will have her stop being Leyley and star being, well, Ashley, I think that Ashley will still be a deeply selfish person. At best, I see her developing the ability to be selfless when it comes to Andrew and only Andrew, as in letting him be free, that doesn't automatically carry on to any kids. You've also still got his apprehension at kids to deal with
>>521709296Ashley is going to get sissiepreggies and give birth to a healthy sistercats. On a more serious note, I can see Andrew being apprehensive about it, but Ashley would be very motherly under more stable circumstances.
>>521708679He's the enabler to Renee but she's still the one doing it. He's a piece of shit for everything you said but I still think Renee is worse. Bystander effect is a bitch though.>>521708826To add to this Nemlei should add that skull above Ashley's head when picking "shoot" if the skull emote is going to stay to make it consistent.>>521709004I could see it happen in the ch 4 ending after getting all the stars as a sort of epilogue that I'm expecting the all-star vision unlocks.>>521709152The surgeon has red eyes and is shown to be a lot older, probably mid 50s or even 60s...
Attention to all in the TCOAALition!All Sister Lovers, Hussyites, and Reneegers!I wish you a pleasant evening and may visions of the future come to you in reasonable abundance. Do not listen to naysayers who will tell you that a man cannot have a successful relationship his emotionally mature sister.Andrew WILL guide Ashley into becoming a womanThey WILL marry each otherThey WILL have at least four childrenThere WILL be a Happily Ever AfterThank you, and good night!
>>521683097Society is evil and won't let them be together!!
>>521706720Youuu are not aloooone~Seriously. This has followed me up to the present day, where I barely speak up during work meetings.
>>521709793>He's the enabler to Renee but she's still the one doing it. He's a piece of shit for everything you said but I still think Renee is worse. Bystander effect is a bitch though.But he isn't though.When Renee confronted the surgeon, she was willing to fight for her children, call the lawyers, sue the Surgeon, she was really struggling with having nothing that she knew could help them.It was Doug who suggested they cave and take the cash out, and it's only THEN Renee turned around and accepted and flipped the blame on their kids.I think Doug is a bit more than just a bystander or an enabler.
>>521709152Nah, but I wonder if the Cult Leader and the Surgeon are connected.
>>521710631>I mean if there's nothing we could doShe didn't fight for the kids
>>521710776In her own way, she was trying to, and she was openly struggling until Doug accepted their deal
>>521710631Douglas is a spineless wimp, willing to look the other way for the sake of convenience. I would hate him, too. Probably more than Renee.
>>521706540>talking to women is scarydude really we are the least intimidating people ever unless you're only trying to talk to kardashian baddie tytpes or stacies?
>>521710921Yeah, i think Doug is worse.Renee was visibly struggling and wanted to fight for them, but it was Doug who took the deal.
>>521710776>>521710874If Douglas had said "No." Renee would have followed suit.
Sometimes this fanfic writing is really cringe. Who really says this to their gf mid-hug?
>>521706540Talking to women isn't scary at all.You know, unless you're shorter than they are.
>>521711190Julia isn't his gf. She's his sexual relief toy that he takes out his repressed desires for Ashley on.
>>521711284Then it's hot
>>521711190The eclipse indicates that Andrew is probably contemplating this while playing with her hair, so it's not so far fetched.
>>521711473Ellipses*
>>521710472>This has followed me up to the present day, where I barely speak up during work meetings.>At work they tell us to speak up more if we have objections to work load/what they want us to do>do it>get written up anyways>>521710631I definitely agree that he's a shitbag too, but this is actually the only time I can think of where he actively says something to their detriment, granted it's probably the most important conversation about the sibling's lives since he's essentially sentencing them to death. As far as the rest of the story though it always appears as if it's just Renee being a huge cunt to Andrew and Ashley and he just is too oblivious or purposefully ignoring what's going on around him. It's good that Nemlei added this vision though to show he's complicit along with the one of him reassuring Renee they are doing "fine" when at that point A&A are both irreparably fucked up. That's why I call him an enabler. To be fair the game shows they both enable each other with the surgeon conversation as well, it's just in the rest of the story he's barely a footnote to either Andrew or Ashley since it's Renee's tyranny that's the focus over his oblivious neglect.
>>521711773It's not the only time.In the vision, he pulled the plug on the cord when Renee confronted her mom and coddled her, and then reassured her that he didn't doubt them and their decisions.Renee had a moment of contemplation that she may have made mistakes. but doug reassured her.And when they found out about NIna, it's Doug who suggested they play oblivious.While Renee has a stronger personality, and Doug comes off as a follower, I think he's much more than just a bystander, you just really need to pay attention to the sequence of their dialogues and actions to pick up how Doug subtly makes decisions that Renee then much loudly champions.
>>521710874She outright demanded money then said that since they were gonna die, they might as well make money off them. Douglas didn't even know what was happening until a minute ago
>>521711473Speaking of that I will never stop talking about how his habit of playing with Ashley's hair is CUTE
>>521712082She was demanding money, but she didn't condemn their children either, until Doug did.
>>521711773Given the other visions with Douglas, and his general behavior, I would say he is willfully ignorant. For things he cannot ignore, he refers to his wife. Even the murder of his children (that he ordered) is handled by Renee.
>>521712293She was the first one to suggest making money off them dying and the first one to pretend like there was nothing they could do
>>521712435given how she still asked about the kids, she was clearly grappling with it, and she hasn't accepted until Doug did.
>>521712197They will be the ideal couple once Ashley grows up. I love these niggas like you wouldn't believe. It's like that one South Park episode where the relationship between Craig and Tweak inspires everybody else in their own romantic lives.
>>521712197he also plays with her shirt/bra straps and pant loops too
>>521712197She notices too.Must suck to know she can't acknowledge or he'll have a melty.
>>521712197One of these is from Shots and such run though
Since White Lotus made incest mainstream I could definitely see Netflix adapt this to a bad series or something. Get someone like Ryan Murphy to direct it. Fuck it
>>521711284Women can't understand why they're intimidating because they don't understand how hard it is to maintain a façade of invincibility and apathy when you're spiritually exhausted and emotionally weak. This is why my sister is better than normie women.
Will the real Thiu Shady please stand up?
>>521712504She already was planning to make money off their death. She wasn't grappling with it all
is Finland a real place?
>>521690179Not to mention Andrew threw up shortly before this
>>521712510Agreed. They're simply too cute for me to not want them to be together
>>521712197>>521712510I'll never forgive them for being happy
>>521703470I think he’s an outlier in coffinland. It seems like a really fucked up society as a whole. Everyone is an asshole, there are large corporations running organ harvesting ops without any gov reprisal, and most people seem to be poor. I get that this could just be how the siblings see the world, but still. It was nice to see that some people are getting by ok.
Why did Andy make it worse for himself at gradnpas house? There was no reason for him to admit he left Leyley alone for a couple hours. She got muddy while they were together. All he had to say was that Leyley fell in a mud puddle while they were playing in the fucking forest which they were just forced to pick berries in.
>>521713550Ashley is huge cute. Andrew is okay, I guess.
>>521715090He wasn't as good of a liar, and even if he did Leyley would probably be a little shit and contradict it because she was mad at him for not following her right away.
>>521715115I would give them both a smooch on the lips
>>521715090would have gotten blamed for it regardless
>>521705739As other anons have mentioned, at the questionable door the narrator says something like “this won’t end the way you think”. It’s pretty obvious now that the narrator is speaking more to either Andrew or ashley than it is speaking to the player. We know leyley sees sex as a way to control Andrew. It’s very possible that ashley “chose” this route bc she wants to exercise control over the unpredictable burial route Andrew Moreover, the skull symbol could mean that the questionable route will lead to the death of leyley- her burial if you will.
How long did Andrew last with Ashley?
>>521705852I got molested by my older female cousin when I was a kid. I enjoyed it at the time and I’m pretty sure it’s responsible for my incest fetish and other aberrant sexual desires. I think she got raped (she was just a kid too and she shouldn’t have known how to do the things we did at her age). Plus she’s dating this fugly butch dyke now so. Point being you really wouldn’t get a positive experience out of this unless you were old enough to see the experience for what it is and for it not to be a traumatic sexual experience. It’s kinda rare to keep in touch with extended family past childhood so it’s very rare that ethical incest can actually happen.
>>521716594Too long. Whiskey dick is real.
>>521712303Need a remake of this but with the campers
>>521717245Honestly, even if Andrew wasn't a giga-siscon... bro, she's so fucking cute! How could you not snuggle the fuck out of this?
>>521708568If there wasn’t gonna be an ashley and Andrew have a baby run, nemlei would not have felt the need to include a blurb about how first generation incest babies are usually not messed up lmao.
>>521717382Nemlei has been reading these threads, there's no fucking way she hasn't.
>>521716908I thought alcohol prevented erections
>>521683097God this scene hurt, fuck normalfags
>>521717441It probably depends on the person, but if I drink too much then my issue isn't getting hard but rather finishing. For me, even if I did manage to get off the result is not that pleasurable compared to doing it sober, that's probably one of the bigger reasons I majorly cut down on drinking. The other, more important reason, is because my sister yelled at me. Don't read too much into that I'm drunk.
>>521717583It was sad to see Andrew listen to Friend B and his happy family life, knowing he will never have something like this, him and Ashley being in too much of a rock bottom
>>521717438I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s like the one place on the internet where people give a fair shot to and genuinely love her story.
>>521713216Nta but rewatching the flashback there was a moment were she has a "am I really about to accept this" look to her face.
>>521683097This actually makes me wonder.Andrew must've gone for this grungy emo look because he was depressed over everything.Did Ashley pick a similiar style to match him?
>>521717682Hm. I never fucked a drunk guy but I remember my brother groaning and moaning through the wall during sex with his gf because he couldn't get it going.It's good you cut down, I'm doing the same with vaping
>>521718260She changed her look based on Julia (not confirmed but kind of obvious) who was always a mope emo who literally cuts herself
What was her beef with Grandpa?
>>521718883He beat up Andrew.
>>521718883One of the few times kid ashley was in the right
>had exes like Ashley>get to the part where Andrew beats the shit out of Ashley>feels bad but catharticAm I coping by hoping she will be more mature in Burial?
So what'll happen to Leyley and CuckdyObviously the story doesn't end here and ??? is going to fuck them over
My sister is obsessed with this game. What does it mean?
>>521719187Andy will probably eventually kill himself by jumping off the cliff
>>521719243She can identify kino
>>521719187Leyley will get killed on one of her Escape from Tarkov runs and Andy will kill himself.
>>521719187LU and 3 eyes will use the siblings against eachother to create the darkest of souls
>>521719364How would Andrew and Ashley react if they were in the world of Dark Souls? What build would each go for?
>>521719572Ashley is a STR/FAI Stacy.
>>521719364LU is huge from eating tons of SOVLs but he's clearly on bad terms with his current SOVL wrangler. That would explain why he's willing to help Andrew get away from Ashley, he wants him to be his new SOVL wrangler.??? is small time with his playground of 6ish usable SOVLS. Even Ashley in her 'demon' form is larger than that little bitch.I bet LU lures Andrew away and Ashley has to hunt him down with ??? being forced to help her in order to keep her around and getting SOVLs for him.
>>521719572Andrew would go for a quality build, leyley would go for STR build
>>521719794Another bit that's interesting is ??? can't see into the past but LU can
Does Ashley stink good?
>>521720145You tell me
>>521717583Instead of resenting them for having what you don't, find relief that there is happiness in the world, even if it's not yours>>521717702My first run through of Decay I got Deadest of Dead-ends (fucked up the rocks so never got the ring) so having that be not long after this hit especially hard... no pun intended. I wonder if they were publicly identified from their remains or if the company kept it secret to avoid any ties to the apartment or Mr. & Mrs. Graves. If Andy and Ashley's names did make it into the news of the suicide, imagine what Friend B must feel, knowing he was probably one of the last people to ever speak with Andrew, completely confused as to how in the world things got so bad for him, and maybe feel guilty for "not doing enough" to save him. Same for Julia, except I think she'd feel doubly guilty since, as far as she's aware, the last thing Andrew did before killing himself was read her very scathing letter, one which ends with her saying he should "be in hell with Ashley"Bummer
>>521720030LU met Andrew 10 years ago and marked him. But even back then LU was able to enter his mind/memories so he either has different powers or he's just much more powerful than ???.
>>521717967Yeah there was a moment of hesitation, but it’s up for debate whether or not it was because she was weighing the risk/reward or mental distress on about what she was agreeing to.
>>521719187Andy could possibly revert back to Andrew and "do something stupid", causing the demon to steal his soul. Then Ashley either throws a turbo melty at the demon causing him to go "fuck this" and kill her or she just simply kills herself.
>>521719572Ashley would definitely go for pyromancy. Andrew would be an INTfag wizward, and Julia would be a Faith/Miracle build.
Before >>521720948After
>>521721410
>>521710631>When Renee confronted the surgeon, she was willing to fight for her childreninstead of tcoaar you should play tcoaal
>The volunteers far preferred the smells of other people to those of their own family members.NOT LIKE THIS AHAHAHAHA
>tfw reading the poem that falls out of Andrew's notesThey're terrible people but I can't help but hope they can achieve some measure of happiness
Its to cold for you here and nowSo let me hold both your hands in the holes of my sweater
>>521722216Bros how do I get a blahpilled gf?
>>521722242Talk to any woman born after 1993
>>521722242I'm pretty sure all girls love to kinda talk about whatever
>>521690908Didn’t Lord Unknown mention something about Andrew hatching? Like it expected him to develop further. I think it saw the potential in Andrew to develop, while ??? was too shortsighted. We see in the dead end route that ??? switched how it referred to Andrew from Grime Soul to soon-to-be Tar Soul after he murdered Ashley. That scene showed that ??? probably didn’t realize a Grime Soul could change like that.
>>521722480but all of them eat hot chip and lie
>>521723107>Andrew hatchingtrandrew
>>521722216
>>521723346
>>521721875same
>>521723469
>He looks like he fucks imoutos.>Agreed.
Anyone know where this is used? This is my last cg.
>>521722216But she's so nice, but she's so nice, but she's so niceBut she's so nice, but she's so nice, but she's so niceShe's so nice, she's so niceShe lets me use her bodyBut she's so nice, but she's so nice, but she's so niceBut she's so nice, but she's so nice, but she's so nice
So many things that I wanna sayYou know I like my girls a little bit olderI just wanna use your love tonightAnd I don't wanna lose your love tonight
>>521723734andrew gets turned off by imoutosandrew gets turned on by ashley
>>521723734Imoutoes
>>521723971Pretty sure it's the Andy route.
>>521724710Imoutae
>>521716028After seeing people talk about how much of an enabler Doug is, I feel like the Burial route will have Andrew becoming a lot more like his Dad in that respect, him being more willing to cater to Ashley’s wishes no matter how unrealistic and self-destructive they are, and the route will be about Ashley realizing how much Andrew has done to try and keep the two of them afloat.
Stick.
>>521719187>??? is going to fuck them overHe fucks Ashley alright
>>521723971No. This is at the start of the fight between Andrew and Ashley in the cliffhanger route
>>521703470That’s just one ending
>>521725339>fight between Andrew and Ashley in the cliffhanger routeI feel like they have a fight every 10 minutes. Got a timestamp?
>>521695176that's what I have the general forWithout you guys i don't think o could play this game all on my own
>>521703470I bet he probably would feel terrible in Splat, he just saw Andrew after so long and the next day he kills himself with Ashley
>>521703470Friend B was a real oneEveryone needs a Friend B in their life
>>521726350You think Julia or Friend B would read the news of their suicides and be able to piece together they were fucking?
>>521725756https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oYgkTsaksIAt 1:36:14
>>521726530Friend B no, but Julia seems to already suspect it.
Did this game really make Nemlei a millionaire?
>>521723469Is there a Andrew version?
>>521727338Obviously no-one can say for sure but it's pretty likelyhttps://steam-revenue-calculator.com/app/2378900/coffin-andy-leyley
>>521727338No, I stole her money
>>521726621Cool, all done, will zip and post soon
>>521728978Should delay the release until you've renamed all the busts since we voted to delay 3A at first.
>"Alright, kids, I'll have to ask you to stop invoking demons."
>>521729113They'd have to be uploaded separately anyway since catbox has a 200MB limit. Speaking of which, the 3A CG folder is 250MB.
>Andrew sat across from Ashley as she fed their "baby">She was cradling her foot, holding a baby bottle full of milk to the baby's mouth as it drank>Shroomley drank the milk, her eyes closed as it blissfully unaware of Andrew's glare>Ashley however? She looked at her fungal infection with adoration>"Can you fucking stop?!" Andrew asked>"Andrew, language! Not in front of our daughter!" Ashley scolded>"She isn't our daughter! She's a fucking mushroom with your face on it!">"I know, isn't she cute?">Shroomley finished her milk and let out a burp>"Goo goo~">It let out>"Awwww" was Ashley's reaction
Could Ashley really love her kids with Andrew? Assuming she overcomes her Leyley personality and has built a good and relatively healthy relationship with him.
>>521729739Good to see the schizo writefags making a comeback.
Alright fuck it, I can't get this under 200MB so it's going in two archives.ALL THE CG'S AS OF EPISODE 3A ARE HERE WITH HUMAN-READABLE NAMES. NO MORE DISCONNECTED BULLSHIT LIKE "dbba9b9900ad0512" AND "745d9cd1d7fc6c79" BELONGING TO THE SAME SCENE.1000+ IMAGES FULLY SORTED! ENJOY!https://files.catbox.moe/rzrksu.ziphttps://files.catbox.moe/si3kdz.zip
>>521719293didn't happen on sns
>>521719187The demon betrays them and their souls get consumed, it's just an extended death sequence like warden wins.
>>521730191luv renee toes
>>521730918Based as fuckHave you thought about what you're gonna do when the next update releases?
>>521731136coke
>>521730918I kneel...
How furious would Ashley be if Andrew really did impregnate Julia?
>>521731136>>521731175But no in all seriousness, I'll do it all again
>>521731247She'll check the baby herself
>>521729739I love Shroomley so much you don't even know.
>>521730918Thank you based autist!
>>521731175>>521731309lmao, I more meant making sure you can filter out the images you've already done and whatnot
>>521730918>Kit9 watching an autist undo his painstaking destruction of the file system
>>521732087Theoretically I could use a script to generate a hash for each image and then discard duplicate hashes, but Kit9 has already anticipated this and slightly repositioned most of the old CG's.
>>521732246Someone put a bandage over his nose and tint him pink or purple. I need to confirm something...
Andrew biting Julia's nipple a little too hard.
>>521733131>forgetting about the real bitepilled graves sibling
>>521603190I thought it was weird when it said "Got a Ballpoint Pen!". No one talks like that lol
>>521730918based
Did Julia know Andrew was in love with his sister?
>>521734581She probably only thought so by the very end after Jane's constant nagging, and even then she was doubtful as you can tell by her phone call with Andrew.
>>521734581I think she did, but she wanted to believe he did not.
>>521733804Where does andrew go on a tangent about ballpoint pens
>>521735057Right after the rant about how long takes to fully crematate human bodies and how stupid it would be to try and gas people in a non-airtight chamber with a wooden door.
>>521735730Nemlei included a brown character in her game btw
>>521735820Raise the bar, LU is a big black woman.
>>521735820That's just a Southern European
>>521735879Yule Jr is clearly a boy
>>521736365no
it's that time of the year again....
https://x.com/ohnohornysoul/status/1911178386581422219Based Andrew
Why is this general so much better on euro hours?
>>521736494God I wish that were me
>>521736854
>>521736918Incest is legal in euro countries
>>521736918The exact opposite of this is true apparently
>>521736918the only translation that's come out for 3A is Korean so now the only Euros posting are the ones who can speak English worth a fuck
>>521736854Andrew's dainty waist...
>Andrew sees THIS incredible cuteness>Enters an insatiable bloodlustSeriously? What the FUCK is unironically his problem?
>>521736918That's every general.
What if Ashley read Julia's letter?
>>521738119>what if Ashley could readIrrelevant.
>>521738119she'd say >I knew she was a dishonest hussy pretending to be kind
>>521738119She'd probably find it really funny.If it's shots and such she'd hold it over Andrew's head and point out she didn't accept him for who he was.In cliffhanger? she'd probably just tell him "I told you so"
I might be super late noticing this, but Renee's eye color DID change between Chapter 2 and 3I always thought it was more a lime color than a darker green
>>521738698ch3 calls it lime. changing it to look almost the same as andrew's eye color is retarded
>>521738870>changing it to look almost the same as andrew's eye color is retardedNo it's not. They are both the same brand of scumbag
>>521739180there's multiple puzzles where the symbolism is based on their eye color and there will be more of those added so eye colors have to be distinct
>>521739180I suppose it just wouldn't be a proper women's game if it didn't have eye color symbolism
>>521739373There is even more symbolism based on me backhanding you
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gwlmkxQYsPkThis appeared while I was in the shitter and all that came to mind was that she is still not as bad as Renee.I wonder if a fictional mother worse than Renee even exists without reaching the realm of cartoonish evil.
>>521738698Getting tired of these Graves women and their sexy shit eating knowing smiles.
>>521738119She would laugh and say that it was a good thing that broke up after all because she was right
>>521739558Malory Archer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azhwuiaRgNcHonestly Renee is pretty tame compared to a alot of other fictional mothers.
>>521738870genetics innit
>>521739578What's sexy about eating shit?
>>521739558renee's personality did get changed in ch3. in ch2 she had enough good will to at least pretend to have a friendly conversation with andrew and let them sleep in their house before they find job. in ch3 she's completely evil towards kids
>>521739846Why are you British?
>>521739787>>521738392Would the two still have the bitchfight over Julia at the end?I suppose the wifebeating would've happened eventually.
>>521740051genetics perkele
>>521739934>at least pretend to have a friendly conversation with andrewTalk to Renee about Mrs Kent in the childhood flashback and you'll get just that
>>521736494His parents are white
>>521740054They probbably would've just stayed bickering, but not as severe in Shots and Such.
Remember when Andrew made out with his sister and then said, "Oh these last few months have got me all screwed up. Let's forget this mishap."I hate him
>>521740448That's his new momma now
>>521736494
>>521740556I hate him cause I ain't him.
>>521740054They had the bitchfight because Ashley thinks Andrew was just trying to get with her because he got rejected by Julia which is technically true so I guess so
>>521739934Nothing about her personality really changed between ep 2-3. The good will was still there it just disappeared the moment they stuck a gun in her face, tied her up, robbed her, and used her husband's (or her) blood to make a satanic ritual circle.
>>521740718I read satanic ritual as "menstrual". That's probably 50% because they're basically the same thing. And probably 50% because Ashley made a summoning circle with period blood in Decay
Hey, Leyley. Give me your best pirate impression.
>>521740662>andrew had to settle for plan B orbiter ashley after getting dumped by julia >ashley gets julia's sloppy seconds>andrew says sex with julia was betterhow will ashleyfags recover
>>521700750Ashley killing Andrew in self defense is also out of character. So Shits is even more not canon
CRINGLEY
>>521741285>Ashley killing Andrew in self defense is also out of characterIf she gained even the slightest bit of self-love and/or awareness that Andrew is a horrible person who exploits her tenderness, then it's completely reasonable for her to act in self-defence.One of the Burial endings will be Ashley's redemption arc and she'll even apologise to Julia for Nina's death. Remember this post.
>>521741257>Andrew has been cucking Julia for years>Julia nearly dies because she was fat enough to immediately try rummaging through Andrew's fridge >Julia was unloved by her boyfriend the entire time they dated >Andrew says sex with Ashley was the best he's ever hadHow will Juliafags ever recover
>>521741330Was it the ick?
How would Ashley react to Andrew coming to sleep with her and outright saying it's not because of a nightmare or anything, he just likes it?
>>521741707>WHAT IS HE PLAYING AT?That's how she'd react
>>521741707Is your question before or after pic related?
>>521741642>I won because he friendzoned me and used me as his emotional tampon while fucking julia
>>521741707
>>521741584Ashley gets beaten and suddenly she's absolved of all her fucking sins. This is reverse yumefaggotry, shame on you.
>>521741707Literally WHAT did he mean by this?
>>521741929Well, I assume before they would just sleep together with no excuses given. I'm thinking either during quarantine or sometime between episode 2 and 3.
>>521742027Julia cries during sex and got her virginity stolen by a guy who only used her as a substitute for his sister. She went against God's teachings and will be rejected at the pearly gates
Is this Shots?
>>521742454>those bruiseshow did i not noticed those before
>>521742454>hickeys and not bruises>Ashley doesn't mind Andrew smokingNo. Might be Cliffhanger or Burial.
>>521742683>bruisesThey're just hickeys
>>521742454Ashley's face is still intact so no
>>521742761there's one on her legthat aint a hickey
ANDREW 'SEX MASTER' GRAVES
>>521742454Notice the hands? This is the route where LU wipes both of their brains, or at least Andrew's, about them being siblings.
>>521742809>he doesn't know
>>521742265Julia's virginity was stolen by her uncle when she was 13
>>521742856Bro managed to have sex while blackout drunk. That's borderline laws of physics breaking all on its own.
>>521695176This is literally my escape from my shit-ass job as an elementary teacher..I just want to have a toxic relationship with my blood-related sister. That's all.
>>521742265all current ending are positive for julia while ashley only has one positive ending
>>521740556That really was a big retarded moment by Andrew.Yes tell your Sister (Who you are in love with btw), who has the worst self-esteem in the universe, and has severe insecurities, that she sucks at kissing while she was brave enough to initiate her FIRST kiss by herself, really smart dude...
>>521711190An English major.
I can't believe Abusedley is canon...
>>521743241>Julia gets cucked over the phone>Ashley goes around stealing people's souls for money and probably stole Julia's Julia has no positive endings
>>521743587Julia would never attempt to summon a demon or be in the vicinity of people that do. She's safe.
>>521743239When you get fired, make sure you traumatize the kids okay
>>521743707>Julia would never attempt to summon a demonDoubt. Using a ouija board is enough to summon a demon and Julia is stupid enough to do that
>>521743820she's too religious to do that. play the game
>>521741929She's well aware of what he's doing.However, she also lost him for a year and she was compeletly aimless and adrift, and she's JUST gotten him back, she doesn't want to rock the boat with him.In cliffhanger, as Ashley is coming out of her shell once more, stops being Leyley, she's finally confronting this hipocrisy from his end.
>>521743948>stops being LeyleyShe's always Leyley
>>521743920>Too religious >Lusts for Andrew cock for the entire game>Has sex before marriage >Is a whore Surely
>>521739934her good will was entirely a facadeshe was already aware that they knew she and doug had basically left them to die if they seriously tried staying over she'd have had them killed at some point
https://youtu.be/XypeKcvtX-o?si=hYU_NYVHi0bqhtz9This but with Renee and Andrew
>>521744291Anon....
>>521744345anon said "sleep in their house before they find a job"it's pretty obvious what would happen in that situationif they just decided to leave immediately then sure it'd be nothing
>>521744345Yeah, she wanted to get rid of them. Either by killing them or kicking them out. The only reason she didn't immediately call hitmen on them is because she didn't want the extra attention
>>521671352ANDY ANDY COME OVER NOW. SAVE MY LIFE YOU MADE A VOW.
>>521744631>>521744604While she wanted to get rid of them, she didn't want to kill them, not until they decided to attack her.Even in the scene with the Surgeon, she was grappling whether or not to sell them out, and it was Doug who made the decision ultimately.
>>521744723I still can't get over the fact the cultist has a Japanese schoolgirl uniform in his closet. The question is did he buy that for his girlfriend/for whores? Or did he buy it to wear it himself because Nemlei is a fujo?
Gentle, slow, passionate sex, whispering "its okay" "its not your fault" into his ear until he breaks down.
>>521744873>she didn't want to kill themShe kills Andrew if he buys her bullshit despite him not being a threat anymore >she was grappling whether or not to sell them outNo, she wasn't. She made the plan to profit off their deaths and didn't bother negotiating with the surgeon to let their kids go. Then she blamed them for it>it was Doug who made the decision ultimatelyAre Mommyfags always this dumb? She said it first. Doug just parroted her
>>521744873>Even in the scene with the Surgeon, she was grappling whether or not to sell them outshe wanted to sell them out and just pretended she cares about them at the end of scene
>>521744873she had already accepted them dying by the time they were in her house, no?sure, she was "grappling" with the idea, but she was still fine with letting them die because she let doug make that decision without challenging it if anything, the only reason she'd want them alive is to assuage what little guilt she still has
>>521745120Are you seriously disregarding Nemlei's own words now?She explicityl states that Renee chose to kill Andrew BECAUSE they assaulted her and doug, tied them up and robbed them.And pay attention to the scene with the Surgeon again, she was spinning in circles because she wanted the money, but didn't want to sell off the kids, it wasn't until Doug stepped in that she went with it.Renee is consistently shown to be in a state of moral turmoil, and each time, Doug coddled her and convinced her to double down.I think Doug is saying what he thinks she wants to hear, but he's the one who ultimately makes these decisions Renee goes with, he never challenges her even when she was THIS close to thinking she may have made mistakes
>>521742061Ashley is sinless in the first place
>>521744873>Even in the scene with the Surgeon, she was grappling whether or not to sell them outI can't tell whether you're just a delusional mommyfag or actually autistic. It's clear the only thing she cared about was getting a fat payout, she didn't care two winks for the kids. You people really need to learn to read between the lines, it wasn't a difficult scene to comprehend.
>>521744345honestly I'd like to see a vision where this conversation with Mom happens and Andrew and Ashley get a happy but boring ending
>>521745474Based
>sudden blitz of completely retarded postsGood morning, the Euro hours sucked.
>>521721558but hes right thughnever played that mod, but renee isnt as evil as this threads try to implyandy and ashley are way worse even
>>521719470>>521719976Based
>>521745453>She explicityl statesGame shows that she kills Andrew in his sleep when he chooses his parents over Ashley>she was spinning in circlesNo she wasn't. She automatically wanted hush money >Renee is consistently shown to be in a state of moral turmoilNo, she isn't. She's constantly shown to be insecure about how she's perceived. >he's the one who ultimately makes these decisions Renee goes withWrong. Renee is the one who forces him to beg his parents for money. Renee is the one who convinced him to impregnate her. Renee is the one who convinces him to sell their children. Play the game
>>521745453>didn't want to sell off the kidsfor the last time she doesn't give a shit
Dadrewhttps://x.com/XObunny04/status/1911748642442031286
>>521745974god, the fact you're conciously ignoring Author's own exlplanation or what the game has shows how full of shit you are
>>521729423You summon and kill... Summon and kill... I fail to see the logic here. Is sanity the price to pay for POWER!?
>>521745694renee is literally the reason they are the way they areyou are entirely delusional if you still think they aren't, at the very least, all equally shitty
>>521745656nice but ashley is too thick
>>521746070>Surgeon: It doesn't seem like your kids are going to make it. Would you not want to spend your last days together as a family?>Renee immediately with no emotion in her face: No>Surgeon: That was fast She doesn't give a shit about them. How many times does this have to be repeated in the game?
>>521745854greendrew
Why is Ashely constantly starting shit with Andrew? Hes proven nonstop that he will keep her around and cares about her. If she chilled the fuck out and trusted him she (and andrew) would be way happier.
>proven to be a massive piece of shit over and over again>still has countless simps because she's kinda hot
>>521746350the insane fear and trauma she has as leyley blinds her to that shit
>>521746350She can't trust anyoneIt's just in her nature
>>521746123>renee is literally the reason they are the way they areI am pretty sure it was Andrew being a psycho
>>521746502gee I wonder why people become psychossurely it has nothing to do with their upbringingsurely...
>>521743761I legit wish I get fired.Too bad I'm too useful in terms of school clerical work.
>>521746401Take it to Nemlei for making her the greatest wife>>521746535They killed Nina too early to completely blame it on their upbringing
>>521746287She didn't want to die with them, that'd be stupid and pointless.And again, she asked MULITPLE times what would happen to the kids, she gave a shit about them, but not enough to really do much, especially once Doug convinced her.Watch the scene again, or something, you're spilling bullshit now
>>521746350Imagine nearly everyone you have ever known hates youThen imagine the only person who doesn't still has a turbulent relationship with you. Not only would you be acting like a bitch because of your bitchy personality, you'd be acting extra bitchy because it's subconscious behavior as that's what's expected of you by now. Then throw on another layer of acting out because you are, subconsciously or not, shittesting them to try and get validation that they DO care about you, and for good measure a fourth layer because even if they do you probably feel as if you don't deserve to be loved by even that one person.
I think I understand why Renee is such an autism berserk button around these parts. These threads are full of women with severe mommy issues.
Why exactly did Andrew lied to Ashley about screwing Julia in the apartment?
>>521746748Julia also makes them butthurt, despite them also saying she's a non-characterIt's curious really
>>521746673It was ENTIRELY because of their upbringing. Did you even play the game? How can someone be this retarded?I want to hear from the horses mouth why the death of Nina is not a direct result of Renee's parenting. Go on.
>>521746710>she asked MULITPLE times what would happen to the kids,she asked just because she wanted to be sure they'll die before she buys life insurance
>>521746663>That picWaht?
>>521746887I said entirely, not that it didn't played a part on it
>>521729423>>521746092kino
>>521746748Is there a higher quality image of that? I want read the nip.
>>521746710She didn't care that her kids would die, she immediately gave an immediate "NO" to dying with them. Then when the surgeon suggested she take out insurance for them, she immediately went along with it and started asking about how to make money off it. She doesn't give a shit about them >B... but she asked what would happen to them!!!She asked how they would die and even asked if there was any chance could make it out alive since the insurance scam would fall apart if they lived. >Doug convinced herMommyfags are fucking delusional
>>521746975"to completely blame it on their upbringing"I think it can be completely blamed on their upbringing. I want to hear why you think otherwise. So, explain yourself.
>>521747145
>>521746673>They killed Nina too early to completely blame it on their upbringingLeyley is literally Renee's fault, there's not 'b-but' that justifies it, the fact that a girl so young had to hide behind a front so twisted as 'Leyley', tells you a lot about Renee as a person, she is a HORRIBLE mother and piece of shit, she honestly deserved a painful death instead of the mercy she was dealt
>>521747190Something something Ashley and Andrew were both psychopaths or some shit
>>521746748Renee is an autism berserk button because she is clearly depicted as a horrendous person but people defend her out because of their fetishization of and attraction toward her.
>"That must have been tough. It will be alright now."
>3rd /calg/ census>June 2024You will now apologize to the 23.46%..
>>521747190andy and leyley were damaged since day one, the bad parenting just intensified itespecially in ashley's case>>521747296but its the truth isnt it
>>521747236Ah shit that's chink not nip. Thanks anyway.
>>521711473So cute>>521698164Lord Unknown is also interested in Ashley and her tar soul tho>>521705502Anon, Renee's 'punishment' was literally a chore the grandma asked of HER and that she was about to tell Andrew to do anyone. She'd have had a shitfit regardless.>>521705739>you get a skull icon for Questionable door, it seems like a weird incongruity to me.It's because Ashley got the vision of it happening so she still sees sex as transactional (the trinket shows 'troubles ahead) and thus instead of the genuine sex we saw, we'll get Ashley avoiding it and replacing it with her usual transaction stuff, doubly so since seeing the vision told her 'Sex DOES work'.Basically instead of Decay avoiding a bad thing and dealing with the consequence, we'll have Burial avoiding / ruining a good thing and dealing with the consequences.>>521708568Because it would get repetitive FAST.
>>521747341>clearly depicted as a horrendous person but people defend her out because of their fetishization of and attraction towardBut enough about Andrew and Ashley
>>521746710She didn't care about them, just IF THEY WILL DIE FOR SURE, that's all she cared about, so she could say good riddance without her image being damaged
>4th /calg/ census>January 2025You will now apologize to the 7.3%.
>>521747349I'm kneeling before the July chad instead. Keep it positive, wherever you are, king.
>>521747349I think we should have another census in about a month, by that point most of the tourists will leave.
>>521746975It wouldn't have happened at all if Renee and Douglas paid any attention to their kids and said 'Don't go there' or even just asked where they were going that day because Ashley would blab instantly.Thus it's 100% their fault.
>>521746748>Renee is written to be a terrible, abusive mother that doesn't care about her kids who manipulates people and tries to keep up a front Yet people still grasp for straws about how she's innocent and blame Douglas when even Andrew is aware that he's kind
>>521747558We shall hold the censuses during the solstice months (the 4th one was held in January because I forgot to do it in December)
>>521747479You are delusional because even Nemlei states lfat out that Renee did love them to an extent, and she was willing to part ways with them peacefully, nor did she have a look that she wants them to die.Stop being delusional, rewatch the scene or re-read what Nemlei said or something.
>>521747630who said anything about her being innocent? are you schizzoposting?
>>521747296>>521747358Wow, great fucking reasoning. I'm stunned.Seriously, "damaged since day one"?"Both psychopaths"?That's total nonsense.Give a detailed answer. Explain why they are psychopaths instead of convincing yourself of something as stupid as "they were just born evil".
>>521747358Retard. Leyley was clearly just a normal, attention starved child. Andy was a smart child that immediately got a ton of responsibility and pressure put on him. They were not born psychopaths
>>521747479that wasnt the point of that dialogue at all retardshe was actually conflicted about leaving her kids to die>>521747630i never blamed douglas at all wtf, no one said she was innocent either
Born evil.
>>521747783>How am I supposed to take this?Up the butt. goth girls love pegging
>>521747893death of the author is strong with this game
>>521747838you talk like a faggot, i already stated my reasoning if you disagree then whatever>>521747860>Andy was a smart child that immediately got a ton of responsibility and pressure put on him. They were not born psychopathsPeople talk about ALL the fucking time that if Ashley was never born Andrew would just be Coffin Psycho retard. He was never going to make it, Ashley is literally the only person he could ever connect, her being born was a gift to him
>>521747860>They were not born psychopathsAndrew never liked ANYONE. He's incapable of it. Ashley recognising this is what made them actually become friends for real.
>>521747893>Douglas ultimately made the final decision Retard
>>521747347Please post more of lady unknown
>>521748074And that anon wasn't me, RETARD
Andrew is a psychopath by birth, but Ashley was damaged by her family, creating 'Leyley', at least that's what is seems
Andy was a cute. CUTE!
>>521748151
>>521747347is every lady unknown image from the same person on an AI generator?
>>521748049To be fair, we don't really know if he's incapable of it.It doesn't take THAT much for him to grow fond of someone, just them understanding him.Andrew is patholocially afraid of opening up about any of his problems and doesn't think anyone would accept him, Ashley is theo only one perceptive enough to see through it and it endeared him to her.Had anyone else been able to do the same, I believe he would've come to care about them too.
>>521748239We did see he felt sorry about killing Nina, and that he felt pity for Julia.He used to care about Renee and Doug too but grew to resent them.I think it's more that he made his entire identity, life's purpose, to be Ashley's protector and be there for her, and due to Ashley's own trauma, it warped into having to kill more and more people, and he gradually went insane, until he started to pull back from it in Decay.
>>521748385>To be fair, we don't really know if he's incapable of it.Alright, link me your AO3.
>>521748385I know what you are
>>521748385He doesn't want people to understand or like him. Ashley just does. He's not going to open up to people and anyone would have to be on Ashley's level and sit around him long enough to come to an understanding like her, which whittles down the eligibility pool to basically nothing because Ashley is mostly a product of circumstance.
>>521748012>>521748049If Andrew was actually born a psychopath, he wouldn't be able to love Ashley in the first place. He has psychopathic tendencies because of how he was raised in the first place
>>521748695Well, yeah and that's kind of my point.It's not inherent to him, he became this way due to Renee shutting him down, and due to Doug not connecting with him.He became pathologically afraid of oepning up about any of his problems to anyone, he doesn't feel ike anyone would accept him, his obsession to be normal is wanting to be a blank slate, someone with no problems, a superficiality.
we got a baker, right? dont want another thread split
>>521747493its not really correct though because its just half an episode
>>521694312>>521694439>>521694556>>521694975bleeding is almost never due to hymen breaking - it's more so due to vaginal tearing from lack of lubrication. also hymen heals... you guys skipped bio class
>>521748769>If Andrew was actually born a psychopath, he wouldn't be able to love Ashley in the first placePsychopaths can exhibit strong obsessions or desires for someone >He has psychopathic tendencies because of how he was raised in the first placeHe was always easy to raise exactly because of that
>>521748769>If Andrew was actually born a psychopath, he wouldn't be able to love Ashley in the first place.He doesn't, he's just possessive of her, just like her
>>521748918Yeah, it's (You)
>>521748918Page 8.
>>521748829As far as the canon goes he's been this way since long before Nina and the Grandparents because it's something that Leyley pointed out when she was even younger that stuck with him.Please stop trying to fanfic your way into Andrew's pants.
>spergouts and logical gymnastics going against the AUTHOR HERSELF'S WORDS to shout down Renee being anything more than an completely evil two-dimensional cartoon caricature in a game full of ultimately terrible and wretched but complex people with likeable qualitiesIt seems my thesis was correct huh ladies?
>>521749147Are you projecting?There was this entire segment that showed how he became this way from Renee belittling over any and all mistake when he was a grime soul.Hell, the fact that he is a grime soul should show you that he does have a conscience.
>>521749048no its not.>>521749065im aware of that, i just want to make sure we've got one baker and not two
Julia thread?
>>521749256Ashley is a tar soul, so that means she has an even bigger conscience?
>>521749003>>521749014Andrew clearly loves Ashley romantically and it isn't just an obsession. He was easy to raise because he was smart and quiet, not because he was born a psychopath. Andrew and Ashley care about each other more than they do themselves which a psychopath would never do
>>521749436Well, yes?Did you forget the scene in Shots and such when she broke her oath to Andrew and broke down crying, and called herself a bad person?
>>521749256chastising a child doesn't turn them into a psychopath
>>521749203The author made it clear she was going to let them run away because she didn't want attention. Not because she cared for them, learn to read
>>521749516What Renee did is a bit more than chastising.
>>521749436"Conscience" isn't the way I'd put it, just that she's more honest with herself than Andrew and doesn't try to rationalize her way out of things like he does.
>>521749642I had it worse and I'm not a psychopath. He inherited that shit genetically from Renee and her bad parenting failed to smooth it over.
>>521749587Nemlei quite literally mentioned she had a nugget of goodwill left for them before Ashley pulled the gun on her in the exact same paragraph. Can YOU read?
>>521747341>she is clearly depicted as a horrendous person but people defend her out because of their fetishization of and attraction toward her.Cmon now, just look at OUR HEROES Andrew and Ashley anon.
>>521750040And Heroes they are! to each other
>>521749854>I had it worse and I'm not a psychopathYou're here, anon. What does that mean?
>>521750178It means I grew up 10 years later and had access to the internet at speeds greater than 20kb/s
Alright I'm baking now
psychopathy isnt real
baking
>>521750004Goodwill doesn't mean she cares
triple bake
>>521750621>>521750621>>521750621>>521750621NEW BAKE
Did I come in too late to see Ashley whore herself out to old men for money?
>come back after big sleep>retards have yet again let themselves get baited by the mexican haggot mod ReneegerHe came here to stir up shit because his troll thread got sniped after hours of pity-bumping and concluded with him getting dunked on. Don't let him get some small victory out of making people mad, just let him sit there and cry over his moldy tortillas.
>>521751574if you're talking about the thing about hag not being evil im not your boogeyman, i don't like her shipped with andrew at allshes for douglas only, the mod is retarded and ooc
>>521752137No not that, but she *is* evil, whatever else she may be as well that is among them.
>>521752268i disagree, evil is too extreme
>>521752383She sold her children to organ harvesters, I don't care if she hemmed and hawed about it for a microsecond, the bitch SOLD her CHILDREN to ORGAN HARVESTERS
>>521752545more like forced to sell, but i know you will say i'm whitewashing her or somethingwhat she did is wrong, but also understandable considering the whole situation. i still wouldnt call it evilevil is doing something like killing innocent parents who were camping for a satanic ritual in front of their kid and also kill the kid
>>521752829I don't claim Andrew and Ashley aren't evil, they're sympathetic villains in the same way Renee+Douglas are, but even being "forced" to sell she still fundamentally failed to even TRY protecting her children that she barely tolerated and didn't bother raising.
>>521753051>I don't claim Andrew and Ashley aren't evilI do, they never did anything wrong.
>>521736291Cope
>>521737903>hurr durr you're burning him alive -andrew