Twilight twins editionNew AI Beta: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/69-total-war-warhammer-iii-improving-ai-in-campaign-part-2>Stuff1d6chan: https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Total_War_Warhammer/TacticsRoll Charts: https://imgur.com/a/81snQma>Total War: Warhammer IIISteam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1142710/Total War: WARHAMMER III - Dev Chat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avVyfLV6YXITotal War: WARHAMMER III - Improving AI in Campaign - Part 2: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/69-total-war-warhammer-iii-improving-ai-in-campaign-part-2Patch Notes 6.1 dev blog: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/49Balance Changes 6.1: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/forums/7-patch-notes-amp-announcements/threads/9319-total-war-warhammer-iii-patch-6-1-battle-balance-details>Older TitlesSteam: https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/TotalWar-OfficialPrevious thread:>>521539457 #
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>>521677821>Twilight twins editionI'M DOING ITI'M GONNA DO ITI'M GONNA DO THE THINGAAAAAAAAH I'M LEWDIIIIIIIIIIING
>>521677821>The TwinsWhat a blast. Wood Elves really have the most enjoyable roster in the game. The only reason why the faction isn't perfect is that you can't complete multiple rituals at once, and the Beastmen AI is still neutered. They need to unrestrain the Beastie Boys AI when playing the Wood Elves, and give the Wood Elves some bonuses to finding their hidden encampments.
>>521681197>The only reason why the faction isn't perfectWell, for me it's that you're confined to the trees and their immediate surroundings unless you don't mind them getting razed, sacked or occupied all the time, and since only the trees procure a real income you also have too few armies to leave some for defence and some for expeditions. So it ends up being a lot like a skip turn simulator while waiting for the tree to grow.Other than that, yes, they're amazing.
>Karl FranzWhat a blast. The Empire really have the most enjoyable roster in the game. The only reason why the faction isn't perfect is that you can't call multiple Electors once, and the Vampire AI is still neutered. They need to unrestrain the Undead boys AI when playing the Empire, and give the Empire some bonuses to finding Karl's illegitimate children.
>>521681189it's a shame this artist doesn't post anymore
>>521681553>To few armiesEven on Legendary, the Wood Elf economy is so strong I never have a shortage of armies. Those trees make bank, and really snowball off each other due to accumulating faction wide income buff. They also get extra money from battles and sacking. But if you're still struggling, just play Orion and declare war on everyone.
How does Empire and Napoleon work? Are there actually no melee units? Is it really just watch ranged units fire at each other?
>>521681665Playing a Karl campaign right now and I found Sylvania a really awkward mix of neutered but also annoying to fight against. They barely expand outside of Sylvania itself, at most just some spillage on the Moot or Stirland (which now that I think about it sounds like the most loreful interpretation of Sylvanian vampires at the time of KF), which means they accumulate a lot of armies of nothing but zombies and basic skellies, which aren't really a problem, except the raise dead mechanic and Vlad always respawning in one turn makes taking Sylvania extremely frustrating. Also you only ever have to defeat Isabella one single time, because even though she also respawns quickly, the dumbfuck AI will never again place her in Vlad's stack or any stack at all.And I fucking love what Karl does with Carroburgs and Reiksguard. Definitely my favorite Empire comp.
>>521682119melee units exist their just shit and low techYou meant to flank the long gun lines with cavalry to disrupt them.
Reminder: /twg/ is a safe space for people of all genders and sexual orientations to discuss total war.
>>521682401Vampires got fucked by the addition of Nuln and Drycha and moving Manfred to Kangland. Used to be that you had two aggressively expanding Vampire LLs with nothing but Ungrim and bunch of minors near by. Now it's 1 LL surrounded by 3 hostile LLs, and the Vampires already do poorly in autoresolve.
>>521682401Dead rise again is the worst mechanic presently in the game.It's worthless to the player and absolutely annoying in the hands of the AI.
>>521682119ETW have some melee units (pikes, native units, melee cav, etc) and you can order a bayonet charge but it's not preferable unless it's napopan's old guard.
Why the name of factions in this so fucking weird
>Rogue army spawns near my settlement>Its fuckign collage of pyrotechnics>its a fuckign grenadier doomstack with 2 tanks and hellstorms>whats that? KUGATH TO THE RESCUE.Holy shit this is first time Military ally has ever actually sent an army to help fight army I cant afford to fight without using allegiance.
>>521681665My Emperor :)
Do you guys play 3K in Romance or Historical mode?
>>521682119If Empire, play Poland for glorious winged hussar charge. The game is still 90% ranged units firing at each other, yes, but there's still nothing as glorious as those hussars.Also I liked that they start only in Europe, later on I can set up expeditions and start those intercontinental wars from zero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY0lLcz3Qis&ab_channel=ClamaviDeProfundisI hear it.The call of Belegar's campaign.
>>521682961british people are subhuman
Total War: War for Cybetron
>>521682581Yes ! 1/3 of all units in this game should be transgenders people and 1/3 should be women. Also 1/3 of them should be lesbian/gay and 1/3 have an handicap. And all of that coming in all size, weight and mixed colors in equal part.
>>521681197I cant play any other WE lord besides the sisters. They're too much fun and their bickering on the map is funny.
Hmm, where to start...
Hate this dumb units being overrated in Autoresolve
Norsca sounds like a fun vacation
>>521685401>siegeThey might have stood a chance on open field.
>Ulrika>Gashnag>Genevieve>That one Von Carstein dude from that one White Dwarf comic I just can't remember the name ofHow many more known examples of good vampires are there?
>>521685590There are none, step out of the shadows, sir
>>521685521It was open field, I had no siege attacker in the first army, the autoresolve was so bad they sallied out
he scary
>>521687078Then congrats. Archers are shit against massed armor.
>ze lady starts to give the gift of the chalice with the added effect of turning the drinker into a woman. A divine supersoldier, but female>this makes some questing knights to wonder if it is worth it to drink the chalice if they're going to end up as females, and some even drop the quest after hearing about the changes>those were going to fail anyways, so nothing of value has been lost>after a couple of years there's entire units of grail knights (female), which is both confusing but also weirdly alluring to the common folk>decades later they become not only icons of virtue, but also beauty standards, and you can hear tavern talks about who's the most fuckable of them all>people no longer care about they being former males. They're now grail maidens and are as fuckable as that sounds>some even begin to think that they shouldn't be chaste, and should reproduce and give offspring>these social pressures become so big the grail maidens even consider the possibility>they eventually consult with the fay enchantress and she says that their sacred wombs would give birth to beautiful and powerful defenders of bretonnia>these former males and now practically forced to fuck other noble men to gave birth to the future noble class of bretonnia, meanwhile slaanesh is furiously masturbating and laughing while she/he is still wearing the same dress the lady of the lake usesTrans knights could be good.
>>521687815Please go to TFGames before you post.
>>521681189Noooooooooooooooo
Redditpire mod be like:>here's 99 reskins for greatsword with more armours and hitpoints>EZ ogres recruitments>also GREATSWORDS SHOULD BEAT CHOSENS.
>>521689042>aquatic unitsKEK
>>521689042CA loves pandering to empfags. They might just add this mod to the game.
>>521689042But it says they are balanced!!
I'm finding the sieges to be very confusing in 3
Remember to call your moms once in awhile
>have small stack garrisoned at a choke on one end of my empire while I expand in another>get punished for it
>>521689042peak reddit mod icon
>>521689042>Ogre Greatswords...go on.
>>521690554Not even an attempt to kitbash the ogres lol
>>521690825Oh. Nevermind, disappointing as hell. Aren't those just normal Ironguts? I was hoping for Maneaters (Imperial).
>>521690825>cropping out your white dotLook how ashamed the cheater isYetHe still cheats
Palying Teclis for the 1st time.How i'm supposed to deal with Kairos attacking from the south and Wurrzag from the north at the same time ?
>>521689042what mod? looks fun
>>521683135Someone answer me? What's the better mode?
>>521690825Could at least use the Imperial Ogres RoR skin.
>>521687568Armored Frontlines are shit if they can't get through basic spearmen, the "Chosen" couldn't rout any of them
>>521691756me on the right
>>521689042is it mandatory for every empire mod to have a hat on sallet kitbash somewhere in it
>>521692975This but the left
>>521693313also is the steam workshop just flat out fucked as of recent for anyone else? the sorting options give me nonsensical shit like this where apparently the most popular mod for the empire is a +5 swordsmen bonus
Regiments of Renown are for Losers and Sucka's
>>521693645>All those Empire mods.Sure is fucked.
Why don't you fuckers actually complete your campaigns???
I play until I get bored and then I start another campaign
>>521693914>Make campaign's boring beyond the Short Victory conditions>Tie the achievement to Long Victory conditions>Nobody completes them
>>521692687>me posting "Sotek said: having no Bretonnian female knights never made any sense to him" last thread
I wish Gelt boosted gunpowder and artillery more.
I wish I could just skip this franchise's progress forward a year so we could get these magical reworks in the game finally instead of having to wait for months at a time.Fucking hell I really don't give a damn about most of the races that have been getting content or updates. Or they've ben updated in ways I don't approve of. Looking at you State Troops recruitment.
>>521694219Sotek literally shilled for BLM back in 2020.
>>521693645Reddit: The mods page
>Greasus took Nan GauJesus fucking Christ must the Empire fix everything.
>>521694402He clarified that it was only because his domme told him to.
>>521695245Fake news, it was his bull.
did they mess with the units' movement in the last patch or something? my ushabti refuse to push through my own infantry and they just stand back while 3 or 4 models engage at the front
>think I'm taking morathi's last settlement>didnt bother counting to ensure>tyrone let her take khaine's shrine at some pointfucksake
>>521694402Holy based
>>521694431Total War is Reddit: the videogame
>>521695749Total War Rome 1Total War EmpireTotal War Rome 2all of these are reddit btw
>>521695587>>521695587ONE MIGHT CALL ITA CHAFFIC JAM
>>521695631He needs his booty call.
>>521695587I'd say it's a good change, but it's to do with units dropping orders and not mass changes.
Chances of them ever bringing the overcrowded debuff from Medieval 1 back? In that game your units performed worse if completely blobbed up, just like IRL.
>>521696675It won't come back, AI can't handle it.
>>521696675In addition to what >>521697158 said it would cripple counts and nurgle.
I'm at war with Queek, ironclaw guys, ogres and tretch with 6 provinces onlyCurrently I'm earning 100 per turn with 2 full stacks and a +5 bonus grudge armyIt could either be a disaster or some great fun
>>521697809Yeah but in a historical TW. Warhammer has barely anything resembling real life tactics anyway, the game doesn't even have functional cavalry.
>>521697873RETAKE THE REALMS
>4chanTotal War Warhammer 1 & 2Rome 1Med 2Attila Three KingdomsShogun 2Napoleon>RedditTotal War Warhammer 3Rome 2Shogun 1 Med 1TroyPharaohBrittaniaEmpire
>>521697989Wrong, it has 2 units of functional cavalry: mournfangs and crushers
>>521691685Romance, devs stopped caring about balancing historical after the 1st dlc
>>521698212this
>>521698212>Med 2 and Rome 1>4chan with all their cheats
>>521697989I dunno. I've spammed Wild Riders with Orion and the absolutely mogged whatever they hit, even on VH battle difficult. Same with Imrik's Dragon Princes, or just Bretonnia in general. Cav is shit compared to other games, but with the right factions and lords its still good.
>>521698212Warhammer 2 is a reddit game. You are otherwise correct though.>>521698443Cheats is reddit meme. Notice it didn't show up until Warhammer 2 rolled around.
what are some 4chan factions in Warhammer 3
>>521698898None, Warhammer is a reddit franchise40k is the 4chan version
>>521698898daniel
>>521698636Yeah but they don't function like cavalry. You can't do proper hit and run tactics, you can't charge through your enemy. They do well in prolonged combat because of high stats, they're basically fast infantry. As >>521698256 pointed out, the only functional cav units in this game are Mournfangs and Skullcrushers. Grail Knights worked like they should for a single patch back in TWW2 but then CA reverted the changes because MP niggers (who've only ever played Warhammer) cried on leddit.
>>521699153>You can't do proper hit and run tacticsYou can when you're entire army is Wild Riders, Glade Guard, SoT, and Stag Knights. But I get your point.
>>521699050>40k is the 4chan versionyou sure about that?
>>521699153I have no issues doing hit and run with cav, except the really light ones like peasant cav.
>>521699735This is why I try to avoid public discords as much as possible.
>>521682119it's actually kino and ludo but most of this thread is too low iq to appreciate it. unlike warhammer with its dumbed down for retards mechanics only the first rank can shoot, increasing to 2-3 with techs. also ranges are a lot shorter, only 70 for basic units and 125 for riflemen. it's not like soihammer where you have your ironsides with campaign cheated 300 range who can shoot through each other's backs. engagements end up being more active since you constantly need to be moving your lines to outflank the enemy instead of just being able to stat check a giant melee blob.
>>521699875doesn't change the fact that 40k is troon franchise
>40k is 4chan
Both reddit and 4chan are borderline unusable since the 3rd world got smart phones
>>521693313My first kitbash kind of vibe
>>521700320Yeah, racism and bigotry aren't allowed on 4chan, I get banned a lot for it
>>521700320I just read the title, I know it's troon shit.
>>52170032040K the game is reddit. 40K the primarch soap opera is 4chan.
Total war is funnyjunk
>>521700320>there are no goodies in the Warhammer 40,000 UniverseI don't know how they can claim this and then publish shit like Gaunt's Ghosts.
how many armies can stack when you attack something? like when there's 2 armies you own nest to each other and both get together when battle starts
>>521700747funnyjunk is unironically the new 4chan
>>521700805You can have a grand total of 4 attacking and 4 defending armies.
>>521700847Honestly let's just all migrate over there, screw /vg/
>>521700381There's barely a difference between reddit and 4chan after the fappening ruined the porn boards and 2016 ruined nearly everything else
>>521700924>First Total War was Med 1>First campaign climaxed in a battle of 3 of my English stacks against 8 Egypt stacksHow we have fallen.
>actually the guys preventing you from being ripped limb from limb by orcs>or damned to a life of pure unspeakable torture at the hands of the dark eldar>or being turned into a biomass soup by tyranids>or having your soul damned for eternity by chaos>are actually the heckin bad guys!
>>521700847Funnyjunk still exists?
>>521701301thriving, even
Anyone here old enough to remember Total War Arena? How come they never brought back hiding in bushes as a mechanic?
>>521701171>These guys are actually the good guys because there's worse things in the universe
>>521701457>nooooooo if you make tough decisions youre a bad guy!!! only people with no agency that never do anything bad are good!!! the ends never justify the means even when the ends are your survival you should just be a good guy and die passively!!! if you kill your enemies they win so just let them kill you!!!
>>521701457retarded anon realizes good is relative, more at 11
>>521701457When evil exists objectively (chaos), then those who oppose it are good, as long as their means don't use evil methods (yes, fuck radicals and fuck Eisenhorn.)
>>521701782>Though decision>Ends justify the means>It's an entirely fictional and construct settingYeah I'm sure Geedubs want you to believe that Imperium is totally good and fine, and not just a pastiche of Starship Troopers and Dune to sell plastic models. If you want an actual good guy, go play pre-retcon Tau.
Do you guys have a race whose gameplay/roster you love but whose LLs/faction mechanics you really couldn't give less of a shit about?
>>521702345>GreenskinsLove their lords, lore, and their units (in theory). But its kind of hard to play to their strengths of overwhelming the enemy when the AI stack spams. And Waagh! slowing your army to a crawl is too much of pain to deal with in the open maps (not to mention ambush/underway bugs).>LizardmenJust flat out boring campaign mechanics atm, especially for MazdaMoney.
>>521702345Vampire Coast, except that I love (half) their lengendary lords. Treasure hunting is not worth the time to send heroes or lords around the globe, taking 30 turns, just for a tiny sum (if it were like 50k-100k I'd understand). Same with pirate coves. Awful mechanic. Also most of their rites suck. Why limit queen bess to just one per game? The fuck
>>521702316ugh yeah its entirely fictional so who cares the empire are the good guys because i said so its fictional so who cares
>>521702345I love Greenskins but every faction that's not Grom's or Gorbad's might as well not exist.
>>521693102What happens later into the campaign?
>>521701442Total War Arena was great, sad that it was cancelled.
>>521693914they really should add the victory conditions overhaul cheat officially into the game
>>521700320
>>521702956I liked the way it did line of sight.
>>521701131the game doesn't actually work when you are controlling more than 20 units at once. the shitty interface can't keep up. whenever you are fighting more than one enemy stack at once you are basically just being penalized for manual resolving .
>>521704767Med 1 didn't have more than 20 units on battle for each faction. So said battle was 9 waves of reinforcements. Still kino though. In theory I like 40v40 battles. But the awkwardness of reinforcements, the UI issues and control issues (especially with battle realism on), and now with the engine crapping itself in W3, it's pretty clear that they just don't work.
>>521702345I love empire and nuln specifically but I hate the fucking goth bitch and her purple cheat goop. I wish someone would make a cheat that removes amethyst shit and replaces elsp*th with someone else.
>>521701786No, good is absoluteAnything that deviates from absolute good is evil
>>521702345I want to play Helves but they have no mechanics to speak of I play Lizards all the time because my dinoautism combines with the mods created by more skilled dinoautists to overcome the lack of mechanics
>>521700847>check>horsefuckers are allowed to roam free>exitnope
>>521702345Alberic, he's meh, my generic lords are better in late game.
>>521701368Grim
sucks how you cant do skirmishes to just harass the enemy and then safely withdraw as part of a guerilla campaignif CA makes a medieval era or beyond game, they need to take out lord-centric armies and not have losing the battle mean "fuck you, you lose"
>>521629093Gay sex with Skinks?
Playing Lizardmen for first time. When does it get fun? No archers, artillery... just charging all my lizards into melee.
>>521707294After their inevitable rework.
>>521707294Use Skink skirmishers/Chameleon skinks to kite infantry
>>521707294Don't you have any lizardmen DLC?They have plenty range units and artillery.
Just finished my first Nurgle campaign (L/VH) as ku'gath. What an odd experience.>Plagues - every dozen of so turns i forgot they exist. They are alright but not that engaging to interact with.>Cyclic unit recruitment - this was wack for the first 20-30 or so turns and then it was OP instant army recruitment and reinforcement. I generally don't like ramp mechanics in campaigns as the campaign gets easier the longer they go on regardless of such mechanics and their inclusion is just a "win more". >Cults - i used a mod for this and i still couldn't give a crap about it, maybe i need to check out some other ones. >Ku'gath campaign - was stressful post ghorst as Greasus & Imrik both got big. Zhao ming was preoccupied with his own affairs and actually did not declare war on me for the duration of the campaign. But Greasus and i fought 3 seperate wars.1st he declares war during my conqest of ghorst, then once again during Imirk's invasion of me (after he took out drazhoath) and thirdly after i dealt with both Imirk and Ghorst so that i could finally focus on his fat arse. Nurgle is just a pure grind faction to play on battles, with was great against the orges, but damm elves were a huge pain, i'm glad i had some decent units by that point because it would have been tough without some shielded mortals.All in all an ok campaign i wonder how it compares to the other nurgle factions
>>521707294Lizardmen are great.As long as its not a siege, because you have no real way to deal with towers and your only solution to archers behind physical protection is magic, which is a crapshoot because of how quick the AI dodges.
>>521708687Forgot to mention the demon ascension, which was medicore as well not really an upgrade more of a sidegrade but the loss of xp makes it less attractive. Pic related - the most interesting AI development in the campaign is Grimgor's invasion of the chaos invasion into Cathay.
>playing empire for the first time>wipe almost all vampires, only a small force left>killed all skaven in the empire (as far as i know)>now to fuck up the invading green horde>also kill 2 elector counts that revolted and declared war against me, 1 being just a guy that owns a single city
>>521701368EHHHHHHHHHHHHH
How are the sisters of twilight? I haven't played Welves since they came out in WH1
>>521713515They can make doomstacks out of the archer eagle unit.The corrupted dryad is more fun to play.
So here's the plan: I'll send all ~3000 of the Helots to die on the walls, wasting ammo and fatigue in the process, and once that is done I'll send up my elite hoplites to finish off the weakened and depleted defenders. This is the true Spartan way.
>>521713790Redpill me on the difference between Athens and Sparta when both are Greek?
>>521714110One likes fucking little boys and the other likes fucking muscular teenage boys
>>521713740Whys that?
>>521714110Athens = nerdsSparta = jocks
>>521714110In-game the Spartans have better hoplites and light hoplites (spartan youths) whereas the Athenians have better cavalry and navy, and slightly better archers.
>>521714110Athens was a trade empire led by a democracy of the citizens (not every athenian is inherently a citizen, women and slaves are excluded) and liked to get into circlejerks about how big brained they wereSparta was a dual monarchy slave state that had so many slaves the only think keeping it from instantly collapsing in one big slave revolt were a warrior caste that was really just a glorified police force that were always advertised as being more elite than they really were (they lose hard to a army of literal homosexuals)both were philosophical, athenians always asking, in hindsight, very stupid questions with no concept to actually test their answers and going "if my answer sounds right then it must be right" like a redditor. spartans prefered brevity and shitposting, to the point that they pissed off makedon so much with their response to his demand of surrender that he utterly annihilated them
>Total War thread on /v/ gets derailed by the 40k schizo anon from here
A marvelous success!
>>521714110One fucks men, the other also fucks men but gets fucked by men as well.
>>521700776It's all two faced. Like you look at a novel series like Caiaphas Cain which depicts the Imperium as unironically the good guys in a shitty universe, Cain as a good and competent leader who is beloved by everyone for his legitimate heroism in the face of unending peril, the Tau are depicted as reasonable, Space Marines are good and worthy of admiration, etc etc. But oh my god, did the Imperium do the racism against Chaos Mutants that want to spread plague and murder everyone? The Inquisition hates aliens that want to use Humanity as a meat shield, or even worse as a fuck stick? Fascism. Simply fascism.The Imperium clearly needs to become democratic and respect chaos mutant and ork rights.
>>521713515The only fun ranged lord because they're basically a highly mobile artillery piece. Faction buff gives Hawkriders Arrow of Kurnous, except it fires 12 shots rather than 3, so you can delete artillery. Stupidly powerful ability. Short of it is they and their armies are very powerful on the battlefield, although they're nowhere near as broken as Orion's faction ability.
>>521717494>owhere near as broken as Orion's faction abilityI haven't played Orion since WH1 so I can't remember, what does his faction ability do?
>>521718164I think she's referring to the army upkeep discount that scales with the number of factions you're at war with. You can essentially have free armies by declaring war on everybody you meet (which you should be doing anyway).
>>521718164When they updated wood elves he got a campaign bonus that reduces upkeep for every faction you're at war withSo you just declare war on every single faction and you can field infinite armies with 0 upkeep
>>521718164He's faction ability got an update. Upkeep reduced by 8% for Orion (4% for other lords) for every enemy you are at war with. Declare enough wars and armies are free, your only issue will be limited recruitment slots. Even without declaring war on everybody, the immediate upkeep reduction from your early wars allows you to quickly upgrade your settlements and oak of ages for those income and growth bonuses. Get +growth outposts in the heathland and you'll be shitting out tier 4 and 5 buildings and armies in no time. One of the most busted factions in the game.
>>521718353>>521718359>>521718420Zamn, that is busted
>>521718503If something is banned in comp MP you know it's busted.
There's something about watching men poke eachother that REALLY gets me hard
>>521717451NTA but the space marines were extremely obviously created as fascist caricatures.Black library fanfiction in the interim doesn't change that simple fact
Surprise flank!
>>521717451>legitimate heroism in the face of unending perildid you even read a single book
>>521718986They're not "fascist" characters because they lack any fascist qualities.>but they're racist and militaristic and-Not the definition of fascism. Space Marines are just scifi crusaders. More warrior monks than soldiers. They don't care about the economic systems or socio-political issues inherent to fascist politics. 40k is nothing more than Warhammer Fantasy transposed into space, then taking the opportunity to cram in as much inspiration from modern weaponry that they can. And as such, the Imperium has far more in commmon with medieval Europe than it does any state in the 20th century.I'm really tired of this whole 'fascism' thing. "Fascism" does not mean "things I don't like". It actually has a historical and political meaning.>>521719784Cain doing brave things despite being fearful is heroism.
>>521693914I don't care for arbitrary "victory" conditions in any strategy game. In 4x I disable all win conditions to begin with. They are not immersive, not realistic and make AI act in unbelievable manner. I don't care for achievements either
>>521719892out of luck, everything he does is to avoid trouble but is constantly having to do his job and save face
>>52171989240k is older and more defined setting than whfb
>>521719936what do you care for my lady
>>521720296>Rogue Trader>Published 1987>Warhammer Fantasy Battle>Published 1983
>>521720520You have no idea what you are talking about, only posses surface level understanding of things. Priestley worked on Rogue Trader years before he even joined GW. GW agreeing to release Rogue Trader was one of the agreements why he even joined it. WHFB was generic slop with no lore and took editions to define. Then it was constantly retconned and getting 40k lore backported to it. 40k on other hand is an extremely conservative setting which barely changed since Rogue Trader. Chaos Androids fleshed out into Necrons, addition of Tau and now femstodes retcon are the only changes that happened to it. All GW artists, sculptors and writers worked on 40k and Necromunda, settings they cared about and only made some whfb things on the side, out of obligation.40k is the true Warhammer, whfb is it's lazy, younger fantasy mirror.
>>521721090There's almost no 40k lore in Fantasy Battle, it's just European history mixed with a "best of" of other cultures and myths. Unless of course you're suggesting that all the HRE stuff in the Empire and the Atlantis stuff with the High Elves is from 40k, which is completely laughable.You can look at this map right here and predict what the lore is going to be. It's that simple.
>Mid game Hellbron>Level 18>Fly in on top of enemy lord in battle>Click my witch brew and a couple other buffs she had>Right click lord>Health bar fucking disappears >He runs away immediately, army shits itself and follows I always end up going back to her. Why does no one appreciate granny Hellebron
>>521721330>>521721090I mean, if you want to see what a strong 40k influence looks like, just look at Age of Sigmar. It's 40k transposed into fantasy.
>>521721436Dark Elves need a rework like I need to stop drinking. I.E. badly.
Alright well now that i've started whats the best welf archer unit? the last one you unlock?
>>521721497haha IE i get it
>>521721436Because like 10 different lords can do the same thing but also have actual race mechanics.
>>521721436>>521721497Is Hellebron fun?I've just realised I've never done a Har Ganeth campaign
>>521721643Like other anons said, she isn't special, but if you like witch elves and executioners and you like the delves aesthetic, shes fun. Good fights in the beginning too (Sigvald and Valkia with Alith Anar just south)
>>521721643Her mechanic is cool and fun, you get to send unbreakable yet unreplenishable stacks at your enemies every now and then
>>521721541Waywatchers are the best. Glade Guard with Starfire Shafts are a good budget option, but they take a while to unlock due to the building requirements. In practice they're more of a T3 unit despite. Glade Guard are a great early game archer. 170 range and fire while moving. The ones with Hagbane arrows are even better, and easy to get with the T1 barracks.Deepwood Scouts are the odd one out. They have full 360 aiming but lack the additional range and AP of Waywatchers. DWS with swiftshiver arrows shit out damage, but lack range (without upgrades) and AP. They will obliterate unarmored and demonic units, but that's about it.
>>521721804Im already stacked up on scouts specificallt because of the 360 aiming lol
>>521721090I don't see how any of this stops 40K being slop.
>just remembered that the empire existsSigh, my day is ruined.
>>521721330Yes, there is. That's all whfb was getting, from Elves suddenly getting connected to Slaanesh, having to guard their souls from xir, to Abaddon getting backported into whfb as Archaon, to modelling Ulricans after Space Wolves, to making fantasy Necrons and so on and so on. GW never knew what to do with wfhb and how to define it, which is why they were constantly retconning how factions worked and were defined to getting rid off entire events until eventually axing it
>>521714257One of their faction ability gives those units a bombard ability.
>>521721872Scouts aren't bad, and if you want to go full skirmish mode they're a huge upgrade from Glade Guard. Wood Elves have no bad archers. Just realise they will get cucked hard by armor.
Can I get QRD on 3K DLC and why they weren't adding 3K content? I read they apparently were later with the Furious Wild and an upcoming expansion for North China only for CA to just cancel it and future content as well.
>>521721951Skaven don't even look like this, the skull shape is all wrong
>>521722029I'm already discovering that thanks to Belecuck trying to invade the woods instead of going for K8P for some reason, they do well enough though. Im enjoying the 100% ambush chance
Skaven look cool in art when they aren't drawn to be gay furries
>>521722046They burnt too many bridges in the games first year with bad decisions and DLC, then there wasn't enough of a player base left to eat up their buggy DLC releases. Cash stopped coming in so they stopped supporting it. Cunts.>>521721967Retcons are the norm for GWs. Like how they turned the Necrons into Space Tomb Kangs. Or they retconed the Chaos Gods from being powerful warp entities to the be all end all of the warp. Or the Tau retcons because they were too good and nice for the setting. And so on.
>>521721742>Good fights in the beginning too (Sigvald and Valkia with Alith Anar just south)Fighting alith anar is pain though, he spams those shadow warriors which counters witch elves, so you gotta get a dark shart stack
What I mean is that they have huge long mouths that look like they could bite on things, not a stupid little human mouth with a buck tooth
>>521722118If you haven't done it yet, keep Belecuck Nohome alive until after you get the Oak to Tier 3. Then you can win 3 battles vs the stunties to confederate Durthu. Then go murder Ikit to confederate the Twins.
>>521722190>Chinese know when to walk away compared to Warhammer fans when it came to bad DLCHoly fucking shit, if that doesn't say anything, idk what will.
>Rome 2 maps
>>521722221he usually ends up killed by someone else in mine
>>521722320I'm playing as the twins but will do
I find the sisters of twilight laugh when you attack a target oddly sexy
>>521721967>implying Necrons came before Tomb KingsAt this point you're either trolling or retarded.Tomb Kings were first introduced in 1994 as part of general undead, and as a separate faction in 1998. But they were always Egyptians."Necrons", however, have a more complicated history. First they were a nameless design that has no egyptian elements whatsoever, then they were chaos androids with an egyptian aesthetic, and then in 1998 they got added as a real faction with actual lore of their own. They have always been, infamously, Tomb Kings in space and only got more Tomb Kings-y after their lore rework. Their original lore was quite lazy and very Tyrannid-esque in how they had no characters and one motive, and has nothing in common with Tomb Kings until again after the rework. So who actually influenced who? Robot egyptians, or you know Undead Egyptians who represent the most obvious thing to do with an egyptian themed fantasy army? Hint: It's not the chaos androids.Further response will be ignored, as again. Either trolling or retarded.
>>521722726You might be into w*men, anon.
>>521722842w-what? me?
>>521722190Was Furious Wilds part of the 3K setting? And not some other era of China?
>>521722726I legitimately got a chubby the other night while hearing Morathis VA
>>521722861Yes you. It's time to come out as Straight anon. It's okay. We accept all types in /twg/.
>>521722726Truly, the hardest campaign.
>Being attracted to elgi
Im glad I can acutally make orc armies when I play my beloved greenies
>OH N-
Well I had teleported back home and left him alone but here he goes, instead of going for his mountain he's letting his autism take the wheel over grudges or whatever>>521723763elaboratealso tell me what orc LL to play when Im done with sisters
How come skaven don't come with mechanics to please the horned rat when he physically manifests in game 2?
>>521723812The faces in R2 are completely munted.
>>521723763Is this because of Gorbad?I would have thought the other lords would have done that just fine other than Skarsnik and Grom
>>521723821they added anti large orc boyz with spears and black orcs with shields so you can keep a frontline o' da boyz throughoutAs for the LL... Im a greenskins "main" so I like them all but if you want a bunch of naked, screaming orc retards that get buffed to become chosen (orc) in the end game along with foot o gork, go wurrzag. He's probably my favorite overall, but you cant go wrong with any of them imo
I am going to make it my lifes mission to ensure this nigger never sees home again.
>>521724143OH NO NO NO NO
>>521724143Does somebody have the "can't beat the cock" meme but with the dawi?
>>521724143Don't be mad elgi.
>>521724141I love wurrzag but haven't played him in a long ass time. Are the savage orc lords good? Can I go for a 100% savage orc army playthrough?
>>521724337they just added savage orc shaman lords with the latest mini rework and fuck yes you can use savage orcs through the whole thing with Wurrzag, with all that physical resist and damage they fucking mulch everythingJust keep wurrzag off his mount so he can dance
>>521722908Someone answer me? Is it possible for them to return to 3K like they did Rome 2?
>>521724472hell yes, tell me more. I thought the physical resist was unique to wurrzag?
>>521724475They're making 3K version 2, anon. Trust Grace.
>>521724593all savage orc units in his army get 15 percent, then through his talent tree he gets 10 more for all units for 3 points. It gets pretty ridiculous
>>521724746But what do the savage orc shaman lords offer to incentivize going 100% savage?
This ability is pure cancer
>>521724746I almost forgot this little gem
>>521724613>Grace goes on a warpath against coomer mods>When the majority of the DW fanbase are coomers>And 80% of the coomer mods are Chinese languagelel
>>521724853savage orc lords can boost only 1/3 types of enemies with the additional 10 percent phys resistjust stick it on the infantry one
>>521724903She killed 3K and then left the company. Probably for the best as it made CA focus on other things.
>>521724943can boost enemy types? what do you mean?
>>521724943>savage orc lords can boost only 1/3 types of enemiesI meant to say of your types of units not enemies. Savage orc lords still can boost an entire army of savage orcs, just not all of them twice like Wurrag, still worth running
>>521725086Understood, I'll have to take a look myself. Excited to try a 100% savage orc only recruitement campaign
>>521724863I love slaughtering beasties
>>521725382>that army compI get it, but Jesus. Imagining myself playing the whole game with that makes me sad.
Is this the hardest turn 1 battle? Siege against a decent melee line with ranged units behind that I can't reach.
>>521724613You didn't answer the first part of the question. Was the expansion actually set in 3 Kingdoms era this time around?
>>521725478Yeah. It's got a few characters from the novel.
>>521725436The seaguard serve as a good frontline.It's just spears/bows, however the spears also have bows.This one was fun tho
>>521725602So none of the other DLCs were set in 3 Kingdoms era?
>>521725702Like I said, I get it. It's not mono so I'm not complaining too hard, but it just reminds me why I don't play Warhammer anymore. You are encouraged to cheese rather than have balanced army compositions, with no penalty.>>521725753Okay, let me answer you definitively.>Yellow Turban Rebellion>Mandate of HeavenThis adds in what is the prologue to the novel.>Eight PrincesThis effectively is the 'and then what happened' DLC, which adapts a different book called the Book of Jin that is set 100 years after the events of Romance.>The Furious WildThis adds additional characters in the Southern region that were in the novel.>Fates DividedIt's during the Romance novel.
>>521725987This one you may enjoy a bit more.Less cheese
>>521725702I get Seaguard spam, but surely you want the shielded variant. Also damn shame they did add in 3K's feature which allowed hybrid/mixed missile units to both melee and shoot
>>521726125>white lion themedI guess that's a little better?Again, I'm sick of Warhammer because of this. Give me FOTS where I need to have samurai, line infantry, cannons, and cavalry in order to win battles.
>>521726225>not 19 republican infantry NGMI
>>521726225What bullshit is this. Line infantry, double stacked with kneel fire and a couple of parrot/armstrong is all you need to win battles.
>>521726225>>521726282>FOTS where you need samurai, line infantry, cannons, and cavalryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_wK1PycToA
>>521726282>not whatever the cap was for us marines and the rest gatling guns
>>521726336spiff you whore, stop getting the games patched!
>>521726225>FOTS>using samurai except MAYBE in the first 10 turnslol
>>521726364>US marines>Not going with the Frenchies' accuracy or British reload buffs
>>521726149Honestly, that was before I was up to any T3.
>>521726414I just can't bring myself to recruit them knowing how soon they'll be disbanded. I stick to spears until T3.
>>521726296>>521726282>>521726403>not using just four units of samurai to sneak into castles, and then the line infantry+cavalry for field battlesIf you're not playing FOTS with all of its mechanics, you're not playing it properly.
>>521726546I should try basegame shogun 2 with all ninjas.IDK how they play.
>>521726607Well. Those bombs are stupidly power.
>>521726546no need to sneak, cannons kill the entire garrison
>>521726727Maybe if you want to be boring and spend all day doing it. I use a 20 minute time limit.
>>521725382
>>521726831Only thing that'd make this more canon is if it was Markus.
>>521726919>CALCIUM'D
>>521727061>not BONED
>>521727061>>521727090Yeah no... hah
>>521726405the only stats I need is u s a. fuck the frogs and the bongolids. america had the coolest looking ship too.
I love ogres.
>>521727394Are you being a good guy Golgfag and killing all the chaos armies for your empire frens
>>521727575Yes.I tend to sell all territories to my target except for festus's mountain, which I take for myself then do whatever.
>>521727359The coolest one is unlocked by the tech tree (although it was historically made in France for the CSA). It's also the best one. Forward facing AP shells are busted.
>>521727704>Ywn have a celebratory feast of roasted Drakwald boar with your ogre bros, courtesy of Karl FranzIt's over....
>>521727787the us ship was supposed to have rotating turrets but they didn't really work like they were supposed to. probably bongladeshi bias.
>>521727824fuck that reminds me how sad Golgfag is in ToW...He doesn't have his maneater contracts :sob:
>>521728505He does. It's not The Old World that breaks his contracts. I had problem with this as well, but eventually fixed it. I don't remember which mod was doing it.
Which Dwarven lord do I play?
>>521728830thorek
So I saw the Soitek and Andy Hall Malekith video and now I understand Malekithfags. He's the only real character in this franchise.
>>521728714Is it an OvN mod?Can't be Ogrehaul, I don't have it turned on (turning it on rn, along with Ironskin tribe Maybe tomb Kings overhaul? maybe? IDK how tho.
Malekith is pure evil.
>>521729114Really misogynistic of him to assume that wives can't be soldiers too. GW will fix that in TOW and AoS.
>>521728830UhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhThorgrim.
>>521729114Empire does that to Greenskins all the time. To Elves humans are like greenskins.
my lord > your lord
>>521729198100%
>>521729230In LotR it makes no sense but in Fantasy both are the creation of the Old Ones.
>>521729178cwane gunners!
How are those cathay bomber units?
>Move stack to the edge of enemy zone of control, can't move any further>Attack with main stack>Secondary stack is not reinforcing for some reason>If I retreat I won't have the movement left to initiate the attack, and the enemy will finish recruiting and attack me>Reload>Have brutally cunning idea>Main stack goes into ambush, weaker secondary stack behind>Zone of control blocks the entire valley so even if they discover the army they'll attack the main one first>Enemy walks right through it and attacks secondary army>Now my main army is reinforcing behind enemy lines. Secondary army is fuckedThanks CA
>>521729670gay
>>521729670Very strong against stationary infantry.
>>521729670Just like any others (Vampire Coast, Skaven, etc.)Awesome if you can get the right positioning or scenario off. Super useless otherwise.
>>521729670Iron Hail Gunners are better. Early AP missile, blunderbuss damage so murder things in range. Amazing for destroying large monsters and other big SEUs, even late game.
>>521729670>>521730318Don't you just put them behind a front line of peasant crap and accept the collateral damage?
>>521730439If you're going to do that, you could checkerboard at the very least. Even then, IHGs would be better.
>>521730439Grenades? Yes. Iron Hail Gunners? Depends on the enemy. I try and leave a gap or flank open for them in regular battles. If they enemy has lots of flanking units, I don't bother since they'll just sneak through and instead use them to help guard flanks. If the enemy has large monsters, I just keep the ranks close because they'll have line of sight the monsters regardless. Same consideration for terrain providing LoS. I don't bring more than 2 though. They're a specialty unit, not main line missiles like Jade Crossbowmen.
Is it me or are quarrelers completely outclassed by thunderers?Maybe I'm not using them properly, or maybe the great weapon variant is worthwhile given how much the AI tries to snipe them with bats etc
>>521730890yes, the higher damage dealing range unit outclasses the lower damage dealing ranged unit
>>521730987They're both tier 2 though aren't they?
>>521730890I mean Thoonderes are a higher tier with AP, of course they outclass Quarrelers. The upgrade for Quarrelers are Rangers, who are faster and have stalk.
It's honestly incredible how ranged units in these games still have all their entities focus-fire one entity from the enemy unit they're firing at rather than spreading their attacks evenly.
>>521730890Quarrelers are only worth it with the rune LL that gives them AP.
>>521731404You sure we are playing the same game?
Man, this campaign is cool and tough. Amount of shit coming from North and East is terrifying. I'm constantly stretched thin, couldn't even afford to unite Reikland properly because I had to fight against Skaven in Talabecland before I even finished off Rebels. All Electors hate me and Solland tried to secede already. Every turn that Empire unity counter is decreasing, debuffs coming in. I'm racing to finish off Taurox and wanted to help Boris with Khazrak, but already have to fight against Vampires. Soon Festus will start raping Nordland and Hochland too. I can seen not-yet-but-soon-to-be hostile stacks everywhere.
>>521731503Is this Old World?Never tried it, is it basically for people who want a really comprehensive Empire campaign experience?
>>521730890Depends who you're fighting. Quarrelers are fine in 90% of battles but you'll really miss the AP of Thunderers sometimes.
>>521731503Shame it doesn't include Bretonnia, Athel Loren, Border Princes and some of the stunties. There's no way that's the max amount of settlements.
>>521731607YesAll Old World races are better on it, because there is actually room on it to play, instead of world map being a theme park where everything is squeezed in, in a very scaled down and unsatisfying way. Campaigns are interesting and fun for longer, since enemy can build up, distances between cities mean that you can't just siege every city every turn and even a simple goal of uniting your Race homeland will take long. Kislev and Bretonnia in particular are much better and I can't imagine playing as them in their ponds in IE now.I don't play IE anymore
>>521730890You don't have to think that hard with positioning with quarrellers, especially during city sieges. Otherwise, thunderers will beat them each time if you take some effort with planning and formations. There are times I've completely tore apart Vampire Coast (heavy gunpowder usage) in siege battles because the AI didn't know how to handle LoS issues.
>>521732317Anon, it doeshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3081800026
>>521731607Its objectively a better campaign unless you want a quick arcadey game or youre a lizard/elf/cathay fagAlthough it does run way worse
>>521729198So elf women are literally You Just Know
>>521732317what did he mean by this
>>521732575Crackship
>>521732905canon*
>>521732617Wait does it? Your map made it look like they only include a tiny portion of those places.
>>521733023what did he mean by this
>>521732525I feel bad for Wulfshart here
>>521732525>The kiddy pool is backNeat
>AI changes affect quest battles and now the AI goes off script
Should I pirate cove as Vampire Coast or just paint the map?
>>521732525Wait does it have every vanilla LL?
>>521733915Only if it wants to.
Damn Bitch, you live like this?>>521733023I just zoomed in only on my area and everything else is covered in fog of war anyway>>521733915It has from Old World Races. Other races have expeditions and you can customize with https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2927955021 which particular faction will spawn in. So you can for an example make Malekith spawn on Albion as Delf faction instead of Hellebron
>AI builds a walls early game>Sits in it with a full stack of 20Stalling fucks
ambush bait is the answer to every problem in wh3
>>521734517Good. Passive cowards like you should suffer.
>>521734603>Set up ambush bait>AI continues to sit in the settlement recruiting additional lords.Fuck this. Crooked Moon just got wiped out by Thorgrim to. I'll give Azhag another go when they finally decide to add Neferata and his faction ability has some fucking use. Who else is fun to play?
it's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxq3k10jCXk
>>521734517I sometimes use the console commands mod for the explicit purpose of teleporting enemy armies out of their settlements. Not so I can dogpile them with my own armies or anything, just so I can actually fight them without dealing with the faggotry of siege battles.
>>521734765>Who else is fun to play?the changthe changchanglichanglinthe changlinthe changethe changelinthe change the change!the changeling. the changeling! the CHANGELING THE CHANGELING THE CHANGELING! THE CHANGELING! THE CHANGELING! CHANGELING!!!!!!!
>>521734517>attack an enemy lord that is outside will force a field battle>siege it and hope they attack on their turn, will take 1 turn longer than just attacking>ambush outside, sometimes work, better if you are not next to the cityThings I do to prevent this
>>521734517I've noticed that this is extremely common in Warhammer. There's no real way to bait them outside of their settlements unless they themselves are trying to bait you into fighting a 1v3 stack fight. VC loves to do that, the shits.
>>521735119The old switcheroo with a ambush stance army doesn't work anymore?
>>521735097Unfortunately there's no almost no way to win a siege battle due to the garrisons troops (garrison building was built in a T3 settlement) and ambush failed multiple turns in a row. Guess I'll just quit and pray for better RNG next time I have a crack at Azhag.
>>521735314I've never managed to pull of a successful ambush in Warhammer. It always gets detected. Not saying it doesn't work, just no luck whatsoever.
>>521735446Luck is a skill :)
>>521735628
>>521735446There's only two ways I can get it to work. 1 is with really high ambush chance factions like beastmen, especially with their hidden encampments, and 2 is if you do it deep in your territory. If the AI has official LoS to your army they just spot it. Which wouldn't be too bad if it wasn't for the fact that the unofficial have no fog of war cheat hax.
>>521735672It was so much better in Shogun where you could just walk into a forest tile right in front of someone and automatically go into ambush stance.
WORDS LIKE DAGGERSFELL LIKE DUSTRISE WE WILL, CAUSERISE WE MUST
>>521735446That's not what I'm talking about. In TW you can easily bait out any army by bringing a lord with a empty stack. You go into ambush stance in reinforcement distance from the lord and the AI is 100% guaranteed to always attack him triggering a battle with your army in ambush stance no matter if you are detected or not. Best way to speedrun armies hiding in walled settlements.
>>521735783>It was so much better in ShogunMany such cases
>>521734765That's not how you set up the ambush bait for this situation.You start a siege with one lord with one shit unit and let your army be in ambush stance right next to him.The AI will sally forth and you will kill them with the ambush army reinforcement.
>>521735672You still get terrain bonuses to stances in Warhammer tho.
>>5217360That sounds like bullshit but I believe it.
>>521736217same
Are archers any good in 3k?I captured a strategist as cao cao
>>521738028They're okay. Fire Arrows are useful for towers. Xbows are much better. I typically run 4 Xbows and 2 Archers for strategists, swapping the archers to artillery later on.
>>521738149Ok cool, thanksAre crossbows still worth getting early game?
what's the reasoning behind this type of head protection
>>521738367it looks cool
>>521738367
>>521738367have you seen greenskins? half their mouth hangs out beyond their forehead when you look at them from the side
>>521729961Ambush fails, enemy rejects engaging, it's now within your zone of control, and so is your secondary army, allowing them to attack your secondary armyThe trick is to make it so your secondary army is not within your zone of control of the main army, but further back. At least in a situation like that.Also keep in mind the AI not only knows all this but takes it into account. They'd likely not make the attack if you made the ajustments as I mentioned, as they'd know how it would go down. The AI cheats. It's only when the prospect of fucking you over is greater than their knowledge that ambushes like that work.
>>521728830Belegar
>TW:40K releases as third game ever with Primaris Marines>One of the first and most popular mods on steam workshop will be to remove them and replace them with manletsYou reckon this will cause shitstorm and potential C&D? Might be a cool happening
>>521738953God damn this is the most fucked up engine and the sooner they fucking kill this game and move on the better. Of course the monkey paw is that whatever comes next will worse.
>>521739276wont happen because tw:40k wont happen
did /twg/ already predict the second reveal that's coming this week?
>>521739276Pretty optimistic of you thinking CA won't close down after WH3 DLC cow dries up.
>>521728830THEE White Dwarf
>>521739859Norsca and High Elves are the other races because Dark Elves are getting their own CoC style 4 lord DLC.
>>521681197>Wood Elves really have the most enjoyable roster in the gamehelp me to understand it. all units feel kinda samey but Im only used to factions with one or two bow units at most.
would elves
I'm playing a Khemri campaign (in TWW2)I had a fun battle where I faced 2 Bretonnian armies almost entirely full of peasants. I'd just put my necrotect on a chariot and between him and 3 or 4 chariot units they caused absolute mayhem in the enemy ranks. I'd completely forgotten how much of a menace TK lords and heroes can be on their chariots.I think my campaign would have been screwed if Settra's army didn't start with a Khemrian warsphinx though.Also what are some good LL defeat traits to get for Settra?
>>521740309Sis, that's an eight year old game. I think they go in >>>/vr/
>that one time I met Vlad doing nothing in Estalia as Noctilus
>>521738367There is nothing to protect on top of their head.
>>521739859yes its cathay/norsca
>>521740309Surtha ek obviously then put him on his chariot of the gods.
>>521736038Oi dis doesn't work ya cheeky git
>>521739859We'll get the dlc trailer this week. DEs and HEs revealed together since it will be obvious.
>>521740695You have to do it exactly like in the picture. Spoilered for size.
what do walls do in WH besides bait defenders into getting killed?
CA is closing down this year
>>521740853Assuming they didn't pivot again of course.
>>521739319It's honestly daft that the army isn't pushed back out of the zone of control if it rejects the engagement.To be fair though, you can also do stupid shit like that. Launching attacks into certain armies, rejecting the attack then pressing backspace so you're within the zone of control and from there attack from other angles and shit.
>>521702604>>521740915Shame, they had a good run.
>>521738367They wear it when they lose their lower jaw in battle.
Bump to ensure the /tg/ threads are being properly clearedI will try to answer every general question I can but please be aware I'm a relatively new player myself and am no authority1.
None of you told me that Aranessa doesn't shut up about her father like Miao does.
That's it, I'll play tomb kangz in the vortex map.>>521742493You just reminds me of the bretonnian discourse from the last thread.
Do orcs have prostates?
aranessa is a whore and you are a faggot
>Khorne lord looks absolutely amazing>is completely garbage ingameWhy did CA make him have such bad stats? Even a vanilla Orc Warboss soloes him.
>>521743796I noticed that. Even has issues fighting enemy melee heroes with all his yellow upgrades and equipment.
>>521743796Ork warbosses mog Khorne sissies in the lore dunno why you expected them to lose in the game
corn
>>521743796because of the empire boogeyman under my bed and inside my walls
>>521743953It seems he lacks AP. I had the pick any unit as lord mod and seeing the melee Chaos Lord specialist eat dirt made me feel I wasted money.Inversely, the regular Chaos Lord gutted the Orc Warboss...which made me feel worse.
>>521732525does this mod still run like ass?
>>521744068>It seems he lacks AP.Is often the case. I don't get how CA don't see that Armor is complete overturned in this game and thus AP is just too important.
>>521743796It is an absolute shame such a good model is wasted.
>>521743796Is a daemon prince of khorne any better? Are any of the daemon princes worth ti?
There is no way you faggots aren't trolling, chaos lord of khonre is a one-man doomstack evrn if he's not ss good as the nurgle or tzeentch one
>>521744952Have him fight an orc warboss
>>521744825Haven't tested them yet but assume so.>>521744952Put him up vs any lord equivelent, he gets his face stomped in.
>>521722162It's because furriers are lame and can't draw anything cool
>>521744825Nurgle is the only good one, khorne meanwhile is just Inferior compared to exalted bloodthirster.
This seems kind of broken
>>521745197Trading settlements to AI breaks the diplomacy game.
>>521745197dont use it then
>>521740691>Surtha ekSounds like it's going to be a real pain in the balls to find him and get to him but I might give it a try. Wulfrik and Louen Leoncoeur also have defeat traits that boost charge bonus so it might be worth sailing up to Bretonnia to meet them...
wtf why is only total war warhammer 3 in the OP?
>>521745069Is nurgle only good because of the mortis engine?
>>521746061shut up
>>521746162TW3 surpassed all TW.
>>521745197FELLOW VLAD CAMPAIGNER spotted, thank you for your contribution. On that note defensive alliances seem broken, the AI can pretty much be asked to break them for free almost all the time, making breaking up the order factions super easy
>>521746061To bad, I did it. I guess Elspeth is joining Vlad's harem.
>>521746162>why is the only game still getting updates and the one 90+% of anons talk about in the op
>>521747072idk it just seems empty the monster hunter general still has the games where like no one plays it and it doesnt get updates
>>521746162CA suicided everything elseThey abandoned 3K and pissed off Chinks with pointless dramas for no reasonRecent historical games were carefully chosen to be made in settings nobody cares aboutNo Med2 remaster with unlocked modding limits because they are retardedNo Med3 because they are retardedAnd thus only Warhammer remains. People want to throw money at them, but CA refuses
>>521747303Monster hunter is gay
>>521746916How'd did you start you campaign. I've doing the classic blitz Altdorf, but I haven't tried VCunts/Vlad since War 2, so I have no idea if it's good or not. Figure the alliance with Elspeth will keep her off my back for a while, and perhaps dissuade the Stunties from entering Sylvania for a while.
Will CA be forced into making Warhammer 4?
>>521747641what about empire fans where do they rank on the sexuality chart?
>>521747908Empire is suppose to suck. So bisexual at least.
>>521747902They'll be forced into making warhammer into the 40,000s but stopping just as they get to that number.
the next game will be total war warhammer 3: china 3k 2
>>521746207>you can keep life leeching as passive even after switching to the lore of nurgle>lore of nurgle>regen>pestilence decayA caster with good mobility and good combat stats can complement nurgle quite nicely.
>>521747875I'm on the AI campaign beta, so I think my results will be different from yours, but I decided to just fortify alongside Konigstein and Swartzhafen, then push east to deal with the dwarfblob in its infancy, then up through Kislev to snatch territory while Katarin/Kostaltyn is still able to be fucked. Once that's done I'll push into the Empire, the problem is once you go that direction you'll be facing down Empire/Brets/Helves. The dwarfblob is by far the deadliest against VC though, so I always deal with it first
>>521748547Yes I'm worried it'll come back to haunt me.
>>521747908empire is the smegma-ridden neckbeard you met on a gay reddit hookup
>Like warriors of chaos>But their campaign is retard baby easy modeLL for this feel?
>>521748051Warhammer 39.9K
>>521745197settlements are worth a lot but specifically anything with a military building or trade resource is worth way too much for some reason.In one campaign I was about to lose a settlement and traded it to one of my enemy to turn them against another enemy they were allied with, totally broken.
>>521748664speaking from experience?
>>521748664thats a lot of meanie words
>>521748664Yes, yes, "Raaar, raaar! Smash, kill!"You have until the sands run from this glass to bark your NONSENSE
I got shit on by Arbaalz on l/vh. Saving Roppsmen clan from Throt was a huge fucking mistake. Retards refused to confed and when Arball came he just razed their settlements for bloodhosts. 2 full stacks of chaos warriors + chariots + bloodreapers and 3 bloodhosts against my 2 full stacks of Kossars...That bloodhost shit really needs a nerf both for players and AI.
Lads just got txt iviting me to 20th anniversary of my high school class. I feel old man.LL for this feel?
>>521748051>warhammer 30kGod help those that hate the SEM lords in TWW
>>521748917sort of, i tried reddit for hookups because /lgbt/ told me to>>521749089they deserve it
>>521749697settra
>>52174972630k would be the worst of fantaslop and histaslop honestly. >Spacemanii (Blue) vs Spacemanii (Red)>SEM monsters and overpowered heroes/lords
>>521749697Kostatlyn
>>521749726>30k>Just completely ruin any mystery surrounding the Emperor and the Horus Heresy to sell some models with op rules 30k is gay
>>521749868What SEMs would you even getTitans?I mean, a primarch would be a SEMImagine a primarch going down from focused lasgun fire
>>521749697Gor-Rok because you have carry around the mummy of Kroak but then you're happy because the old frog's still got it
>>521750041Knights, Primarchs, Heroes like Kharn.
Just figured that regular dwarfs hard counter all chorf tactics pretty handily. Slayers and guns rape Kadai, they shoot down your lords and are resistant to your spells. And for some reason their artillery outranges my dreadquakes.I can beat this battle but my destroyers literally cannot survive and my lord and heroes get shot to shit.It wasnt supposed to like this my brothers in Hashut... They just have too much thunderers...
>>521749868>SEM monsters>single entity monsters monstersaverage 40k fan
>>521748664based, yiff sister!
luthor harkon can beat up your bitchass 40k lords
>>521750484But Luthor Harkon is my 40k lord
>>521750347It's been years and there's still no tag for this fetish btw - truly risible, the internet is disappointing
>>521750647would it not be gaping mouth?
I have yet to touch a non-chaos campaign in wh3
>>521750996Based chaosGOD
>>521750996
40k sounds awesome though
>>521751451>>>/r/eddit
>>521751451Based>>521751757Cringe
no news for luthor
>>521751451I hope the base game will have death guard. Nurgle is my fav faction.
>>521750996BASED and CHAOSPILLED
>>521751660>>521751757BAHAHAHAHA
>>521751950What kind of idiotic hope is that?Full nurgle faction in the base game?Which means you have to do 4 chaos factions + undivided, binding you to FIVE CHAOS FACTIONS on release?Which means you need at least FIVE LOYALIST factions for balance?The presence of Death Guard on release would mean ten different factions of only space marines in the base game. Then you need at least imperial guard and two xenos, it's nonsenseDeath Guard in the base game is cuckoo bananas Congo bongo insanity
where is the news
>>521752557Next week
>>521752604you said that last week
>>521752659that was someone else
>>521752659We got news last week though
>>521752557Thisjust do something alreadyfucking announce somethingpreferably next titleim so boredreeeeeeelet sometjhing happen pls
>>521753101ai beta isnt news
>>52175255740 mins.
>>521753362Yes it is.
>>521753101i don't want news last week
>>521752557For real though, reveal the fucking rest of the DLC already, holy shit.
>>521753828They're revealing a race a month
>>521752557the creative assembly has fallenbillions won't receive a dev blog
>>521751950Undivided legion is far more likely. Black Legion or Word Bearers vs Ultramarines.>>521753828Last video made it sound like they've barely started developing Slaanesh and didn't even start on anything else. DLC NEVER EVER
40k more like 40bad
>>521754226>Last video made it sound like they've barely started developing Slaanesh and didn't even start on anything else.That's not true at all dumb doomposter. It was also recorded weeks before they released it.
>>521754226Bro they just got done with 6.1. stop being an entitled little piss baby. LET. THEM. COOK!
to the south>ogres are sperging outto the east>vlad is sperging outto the north>nurgle is spergning outto the west>ikit and kemmler is sperging outfurfags need to be thrown into a meat grinder and fed to pigs
>>521752501>Which means you need at least FIVE LOYALIST factions for balance?? TWW3 didn't have 5 god races to balance the 5 Nurgle / Khorne / Tzeentch / Slaanesh / Daemons
>>521755640ackchyually it did - Katarin, Boris, Kostaltyn, Miao and Zhao
Uza bagruni fa TCALUK pa DLC, anonu? Zharr-un kuz DLC, TCALUK-umgakaz. HASHUT! Vi sulla DLC neuws.>>521755940>Guilliman>Calgar>Eldrad>Lhykhis
>enemies attacking from 3 fronts>towns rebelling>2 standing armiesyup its warhammering time
Am I wrong in thinking the gyrocopters are still not very impressive? I feel like until you reach gyrobombers, they just don't do meaningful damage.
>>521758336>Am I wrong in thinking the gyrocopters are still not very impressive?Yes
>40k total war gamejust make a normal rts please and another for warhammer fantasy too
>>521758587nah, rts suck with their linear one and be done with campaigns. Sandbox campaign map + real time tactical battles are a perfect formula and there should be more games like this.
>>521758587Fuck that, GW should greenlight a whfb crpg already.
>>521759160GW greenlights everything shown to them. Nobody simply wanted to make that yet.
Thinking about it, Horus Heresy might be more viable than 40k. Space Marine chapters, as they are in 40k are too restricted. Each chapter is only a little over 1000 Marines at full strength. Then if you dissect it even more, you can't have more that 100 scouts. And if you put multiple LLs into a single chapter, it can work only like the base WH1 did. Bigger armies and less restriction works if you put multiple chapters under the same Space Marines umbrella. Or if you want to keep the chapter specific traits, then successor chapters... Otherwise either throw the lore away or throw Codex Astartes away. The latter means only Space Wolves and Black Templars or Horus Heresy.
>>521759313Owlkek can make it work, although just like rogue trader it will be janky as hell.
>>521759632Space Marines will just use caps like Chorfs or Tomb Kings and then have the gameplay of Ogre Kingdoms. This isn't rocket science.
>>521759913Actually space marines will be organized into detachments like in the codex. That will limit the doomstacking of landraiders
NEWS in 36 minutes!!
>>521759632It will be easier for CA to categorize it based on sector or something, so it will be composed of PDF, IG, SM, and the navy.
>>521758336Use troll hammer.
>>521760342So not really Space Marine factions but rather wider Imperium factions? I was considering it but I feel like it would be too bloated. SM, IG, PDF, SoB, AdMech, Inquisition, Assassins, Navy, Arbites and I'm probably missing a faction or two.
>>521761028Oh, right. Rogue Traders, Custodes, Sisters of Silence, Titans, Knights...
>>521759313>>521759160Sigmar: Realm of Ruin was supposed to be their next big RTS. The graphics and army painter are superb. The story... passable.The gameplay was absolutely horrid even for an RTS and done by a studio that never touched the genre. The AoS setting and lore is shit too and the game didn't help with that. So many people were confused on what the game had to do with Warhammer, why the orcs were skinny hillbillies, and why Space Marines were in fantasy. It's too bad and I'm sad people haven't ripped the models from that game.
>>521761196TW:40k might be the dream game for CA, imagine the amount of DLC they can released. Assuming their game engine still able to keep up.
>>521759130RTS games are no stranger to sandbox campaign maps. Dawn of War Dark Crusade had a very fun sandbox campaign and that structure with a few improvements to the campaign map would be the best way to do any modern RTS game
>>521759860thats because it was built in unity, the slop engine, and owlkek doesnt test their games, thats how theyre able to churn the slop out
>>521759860>OwlkekCan't wait for yet another game focused on relationships with the worst fucking characters ever written>>521761545The campaign was frustrating. It didn't play like an RTS but like a one-sided ASSFAGGOTS where the other team had infinite resources
>>521762159>worst fucking characters ever writtenAbelard, crush this posters gems
>>521762159>Can't wait for yet another game focused on relationships with the worst fucking characters ever writtenShit taste.
>>521743796Anyone mind actually testing to see if the Khorne Lord gets punked by the Orc Warboss? That sounds mad
FUUUUUUCK! It is turn 50 and I've only now realized I can recruit all the Chieftains for Tamurkhan and not just the first 2! I thought you had to lvl up the previous one's fealty to unlock the next time! Oh well, I've been pretty much broke all until now anyway.
>>521762159The game was preddy gud (after patches) and some of the characters were decent. The Sister was bipolar but I only tolerated her for being one of the best classes in the game. It got more normies to care about the, 40k setting and Dark Eldar.The game quality and story was night and day compared to their Pathfinder games. The was such a quality cliff in Chapter 3 that it dropped into a black hole.
>>521759632Current 40k setting has most loyalist chapters beyond the Codex Astates limit thanks to the numerous enemies of mankind and Girlyman admitting to the council of Captains that he only did it because it was after the Heresy and even then the Space Wolves didn't split up and you have the Dark Angels and Imperial Fists covertly banding together.
>>521762159With the success of BG3, romance will only become the norm.
>>521763207Imperial Fists has secret council like the DA? Can they even tard wrangle the Black Templars?
>>521763391Well in Owlcat's case, the norm is relationships with everyone except Best Girl, who is unromanceable because she is a writer's waifu.
>>521763624>no new dlc>no new game>no fun streams>middle of the day so no campaign postingwhat did you really expect?
>>521763602Yeah, they have a Captain Planet doctrine that also exists in the tabletop.
>>521763602>Can they even tard wrangle the Black Templars?Highly doubt anyone can tard wrangle the templars.
>>521762159>with the worst fucking characters ever writtenOnly Yrlitard
>>521763602>Can they even tard wrangle the Black Templars?Just say Dorn, Defend, Fortify
This week could be a news week.I am thinking that they shall reveal the High Elves portion of the DLC.
CARLOS FRANCESCO
>>521763602They have (or at least used to have) a thing called the Last Wall Protocol. It was a secret stratagem created by Rogal Dorn that called all Imperial Fists successor chapters to reunite if Terra itself was endangered. They used it during the War of the Beast back in M32. And yes, even the Black Templars obeyed, although reluctantly.
>>521764537>High ElvesAnon, I...
>>521764537Imagine still thinking Elves are going to be featured in this DLC.
>>521762159I liked them
>>521764537>this race no one plays is gonna get a DLCAs delusional as counts players.
>no news
>>521764537>I am thinking that they shall reveal the High Elves portion of the DLC.Gods please!
>>521765138>red top white middle green bottomdamn, that's a strange ass hungarian
Speaking of helves, who's the most fun LL? Never really tried them since WH2
>>521765754Batman since he is the only one that actually has access to their full roster
What if Vampires (both), Kangz, and Slaneeshi DLC next? Is your boner ready?
>>521765853>Coast>KangzNot happening
>>521765754Eltharion the based or Basedrik
This beast right here is the only thing keeping Total War alive.
>>521765569Why were you expecting any news before easter?
>>521766385Total War: Alien vs Predator?
>>521766508I want a PC port of pic related so badly. The premise and faction mechanics look cool but I dropped it after 20 minutes because I just couldn't deal with the control scheme. RTS on console feels horrible.
I'm of mind that it's>Slaanesh and two of the following>Norsca>Cathay>VampiresBoth High Elves and Dark Elves will get their rework in a smaller patch, similar to 6.1 and its reworks. It might also add Kouran, Tullaris, Caradryan and Korhil as LHs. No new LLs for them.
>>521766053>>521765808Are you still supposed to push into the badlands while keeping the city on the donut? N'kari looks like xe's gonna be a pain in the ass
>>521766896I'll riot if they waste a DLC slot on the shitty chinks.
>>521767006They'd be riding off that Cathay hype wave from the tabletop announcement, especially if it's yin yin.
Do you get extra agents if you build say skink building in all 3 minor settlements?
>>521767402>hypeWhere?
>>521767006We need the rest of the dragon children. Two of them are missing from the game. Spreading them across some meaningful updates for factions that need them sounds like a good idea.
>>521767656>We need the rest of the dragon children.Says who?
>"big sword infantry suck, they aren't actually good"SAY WHAT
>>521759130rts can have sandbox maps too, bfme2 is a great example
What new army abilities do you want Bretonnia to get in their rework?
>>521768387Crusades, obv.
>>521768387summon sqvirewho summons a unit of bladesingers
>>521764086Hey Froggy. How's life?Reminder nobody cares if a build can one shot Unfair Deskari.And Nenio will never get a romance
>>521768387From most likely to least likely for CA to add:>grailrocket army ability>grail saurians>crusades that are just grudges but without the penalties, just a reward for the lords that complete them>functional cavalry>a vigor fix for the base game
>>521768848I'm not Frog, but he does post here, the one making the mpfag "singlecel" posts
>one of, if not the coolest siege towers in the game>have to deliberately handicap yourself to use themBloodletting should pause during a siege, fuck you. The only reason it doesn't is because CA figured out that legend or some fag youtuber would figure out an exploit with it
>>521769286>siege towers in WarhammerKEK
>>521769286Yeah let's make the game worse so that we can gawk at some fucking towers faggot
I estimate that Warhammer 3 shall receive 4 more DLCs.
>>521769286>Someone had to model this.
>>521769054Then why are you being a tasteless retard using shitposting language? I'm forced to assume you're the resident lesser subhuman.
>>521769286Sieges in general should be the highlight of campaigns and instead they're never ending slogs that happen constantly.
>>521769678Frog doesn't say the world I use and yes Yrliet is a bad character, Marazhai is unironically better written
Can you do the survey for the beta multiple times? I want to do the survey now while my campaign is fresh on my mind before I start a new one.On an unrelated note, does CA actually read these suveys? I know brit CA doesn't, but the bulgarians seem cool.
>>521769286>Building siege towers in exchange for 2 whole turns of NOT melee combat>NOT throwing yourself and your tide of infantry at the gates to chew it open.Not very "bloodthirsty retard" of you anon.
>>521771398>marazhaiDon't make me post that comic.
>>521677821Give Total War: The Shattering
I don't enjoy "micro" but I enjoy "some micro"I don't like having to issue 10,000 commands per second on unresponsive units but I do enjoy the occasional rear cavalry charge or sneaking a unit of irondrakes to the right position that roasts 300 ratsWhat should I play next?I have never played: Slaanesh, Nurgle, Warriors of Chaos, Daemons of Chaos, Cathay, Kislev, OgresI mean I have played WoC but back when they were a horde faction.
>>521771398You've at least stop using shitposting words. Good.As for your shit taste, it can't be helped and this isn't the thread.
>>521771085
i don't know what micro is. i just pause the game and command everyone 1 by 1
>>521771706Only if if has assassinfus
>>521771803Play belakor then
>>521771641>'dude just run in and die lol khorne le blood!'Literally marauder or even chaos spawn tier thinking. This is why you're not an exalted hero or lord.
>>521771803Slaneeshi has some micro based on what you said. They're a glass cannon faction with lots of speed, but not reliant on charges, so the micro is more just making sure your guys got the right targets and survive getting there if vs ranged.
>>521771085giant 6-8 armies field battles will always be better than gay sieges
if a unit is knocked down it should take damage equal to charge bonus minus their armorprove me wrong
>>521771706It's a cool idea, but wouldn't work for a few reasons.First of all, The Lands Between is geographically too small for a Total War-style game. The only reason the shattering works as a war in Elden Ring is because different factions fought at different times between doing other stuff. The land is simply too small for a campaign map where all the lords are competing at once.Second of all, the power balance would be like Warhammer but even worse. Every army would be basic soldiers that die in droves to single entity monsters and Tamurkhans. There's not really a way you can just rebalance it for Total War without severely re-writing the lore because of how the boss battles are supposed to feel important.Thirdly, Elden Ring is a meme and after Nightreign comes out people are going to be sick of it for a while.
If a unit is knocked down... then N'Kari should have to orbit them until they stand back up so that he can knock them over again.
IT'S UP!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF3TjAaqUGo
ASIANS OF CHANGE
Youtuber crying his eyes out that is not part of the CA partner program is upset that Slaanesh DLC likely includes Norsca. Is very upset about it that he makes a 13 minute video about it whining.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL80LFxmGLUHe wants dark elves and is whining like a bitch about it. Saying Norsca belongs in an Empire/Kislev dlc.
>>521772780This Costin guy is the most negative guy I have ever seen. Every vidoe I got recommended from him is a negative one. Why play the game if you hate it so much. Plus all that AI images ughhh....
>>521773060>>521772780In case you didnt realise he does it on purpose because otherwise no one would watch his garbage channel
>>521772780ConstinPeople shit on Legend but this guy is legitimately the most deluded shitter I've ever seen
>>521768387Errantry Wars implemented into gameplay somehow (Waagh mechanic adaptation for Bretonnia?).More comprehensive peasant/farm/industry system, add mechants to the balance so that it becomes a matter of balancing the needs of the peasantry against those of the merchants through farms/industry buildings.A fucking reminder that you have vows left to select on characters. Maybe even deepen the vow/grail knight system somehow, with decisions like the Ice Court training to further customize each knight/damsel as they accomplish vows.If Bohemond gets added to the game, a monster hunter mechanic. If Bertrand gets added to the game, a thieving mechanic.
>>521772780>>521773060>>521773148>>521773237Somehow I knew it would be costin before even clicking the link
>>521772780This the guy who keeps posting "nobody plays Norsca" here?
>>521773680no thats menobody plays Norsca
>>521773839But I play Norsca
Braindead Sylvanian content creator.
Can't CA just teach chatgpt how to play warhammer and replace their AI with it?
>>521773880you arent real
>>521771958>Gothmog figures out that proper siege tactics are just a suggestion when you outnumber the military+civilian population of the city 10:1
Why are they all running in single file?It was kind of funny to watch them all wait their turn before charging but I have never seen this before.
>>521773913>Dark Elf AI does nothing because ChatGPT is afraid of slavery
I play norsca solely because of the spear chuckers
>>521772780He's right that thematically it makes no sense to stick Norsca in a 3 way DLC considering all the DLCs up to know have been "chaos god race vs 2 others".And people saying Norsca needs a rework is like saying VCounts or Bretonia needs a rework. Both are on the same level of absolute shite relative to everyone else. But then again so are lizardmen and delves (helves are just slightly above)CA needs to do reworks for all of these mentioned. But DLCs are another matter. The only race that truly needs a DLC (as in needs units and LL variety) is Slaanesh. Nobody else. Everyone else's roster is good and has good LL variety. Sure everyone's missing this or that unit but at this point same could be said of every race if you really delve deeper into itSo basically, Slaanesh is the confirmed one and really anyone else can fit in.
>>521774539What ifGood Norsca instead of evil Norsca??
>>521774239Then explain this
>>521772153>dude NOT just run in >caring about being an exalted hero or lord instead of BLOODTzeentchan hands typed this post.
>>521774470alternate angle
>>521774470>>521774717small indie dev team please understand
I don't give a shit about thematic DLC faction pairings.
>>521774717Game is a decade old and still they can't fix these bugsWhy?
>>521768387Army abilities are fucking trash and I don't want anymore in the game.Honestly what I'd like for Bretonnia isVows to be fucking pinged at endturn for fucks sake please that's all I need warn me if I can take a vow. Also instead of upkeep increase without vow finished, upkeep reduction when vow's finished.Rather than 3 missions to pick from, activate 3 misses and do one of the objectives to progressWoC system for the knights. So knights of the realm and knights errant can progress into questing knights, and and then to grail knights and grail guardians. Maybe instead of by xp like the regular WoC system, have it also be by a mini vow system (win x battles with the army the unit's in, for example)Peasant economy is good as is I think but I'm sure others will disagree.
>>521774956Me too it is stupid as fuck to whine about it. The only rivalries we have left are Kazador vs Gorfang and Li Dao vs Monkey King.
>>521774615Who for good Norsca? Skeggi?
Bring me Neferata's head
>>521775012I barely ever play sieges if I can help it, I forget how buggy they are
Did they nerf skulltaker? I dont understand people say his campaign is easy>cant expand fast because of constant skull bottleneck>cant fight all the time because of shitty replenishment>cant use campaign mechanics, because they rely on fighting all the time, which i cant>rakarth, gorrok, markus and yuan bo all declared war before turn 20>have the shittiest economy ever that relies on fighting, which i cant, because I have NO FUCKING REPLENISHMENTlike what the fuck is going on, it doesn't matter that i cant teleport when I can only fight every 3-4th turn because it takes fucking forever to replenish my units
>>521775647>cant fight all the time because of shitty replenishmentDon't take casualties in your actual army and use bloodhosts to soak up the majority of the casualties you get inflicted?
>>521775647you arent supposed to take massive casualties every fight
>people still get filtered by Khornehow
>>521775296Bjornling or Skeggi could both work since neither is truly chaos aligned.
>>521775968Issue is, what units to add that aren't strictly chaos, but could also work for chaos (since the other factions would need to be able to access them)
>>521775968But we already have from bjornling tribe. Aranessa is a member of that Norsca tribe.
Thanquol will be released as part of a bigger DLC in three years, he will be played by Jack Black.>I AM-AM... THANQUOL>VERMIN AND TIDE>RAT OGRE JOCKEY
>>521775647Stop taking such huge losses? Haha, sorry you just have some of the best infantry in the game, haha! You should be using your infinite bloodhost armies to lay waste to everything and be making fat stacks of money, sorry haha! Haha sorry but you just need to learn how to play the game.
Jack Black is an evil pedophile. Source?He's Jewish.
Tbh if I had to choose someone to make a WFB rpg I'd rather CDPR or Larian than Owlcat. I want to see the scenery at ground level.
>>521775296im not sure Skeggi would be considered good they still chaos shit all the time
>>521775809>>521775852wtf is a blood host, its probably too late cause i own lustria now, but it took me for fucking ever
>>521776510>WFB rpg It wouldn't happen anyway since WFRP exist and is pretty different in tone and scale to WFBI think most studies would just adapt the Enemy Within if they made a WFRP CRPG
>>521775940Advanced concepts.
>>521776887>wtf is a blood hostBait or completely new player?
>>521776887You conquered Lustria with a single army?
>>521776890I like WFRP better
>>521777450I made another army at around turn 5-6 and just went into the negative and went on a sacking spree. I still dont know what a blood host is, but I saw no other choice than to just double stack and ignore keeping a base. Had to fight every battle manually to minimize losses. So I have two crapstacks, turn 60 and all lustria is now a ruin.
AAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHH I'M SO FUCKING HORNY! I NEED MY SLAANESH DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT; AND I NEED IT NOW!
>>521777765fair enough kekBlood hosts are summoned armies that are FREE (since the update) and you get them by picking the "blood for the blood god" (iirc) option when conquering a settlement (the rightmost option that costs skulls)
>>521777787same but with elves instead
>>521778093why would I ever do that though, i will try now but it sounds ultrashit
>>521772780>c*stinThis is the retard who claimed Morathi and Feet Enchantress are one of the worst LLs in the game.
>expanded empire roster mod>still not nearly as good as vanilla dawi roster>>521777787How strangeMy active thought is "ok, those are just some tits", but my eyes are locked on and something deeper within says "MAN LOOK AT DEM TITTIES PEEKING THROUGH CLOTHES"
>>521778415The fuck is he sniffing? Worst LLs would be Wulfhart, Khatep, Khalida and Aranessa.
>>521778519They're nice tits, that's why.
How the fuck hasn't this game gotten Thanquol yet? He's literally the fucking protagonist of fantasy Warhammer.
>>521778785I still have no idea what they were thinking with Aranessa. Her entire gimmick is human units, but there's nothing to support them with outside of her army whatsoever. If this game lives long enough for Vamp Coast to get a rework, then she needs a hero and a lord that buff humans.
>>521775647>start arbaal>send him to eastern colonies for free real estate>teleport to lustria on skulltakers borders on like turn 18>in war with bordelaux, markus and the npc delfs>losing the war>directly reinforce him in a big battle>helping him out by wiping out wulfhart while my second army mucks around in norscagotcha bro
>>521776890>It wouldn't happen anyway since WFRP exist...but that's just a greater reason for it to happen.
The MC is Gotrek and Felix.Not your meme rat.
>>521778785>Worst LLs would be WulfhartWhy?I like Wulfhart.
>>521779406MPfags murdered him in broad daylight.
>>521779406Most people haven't played him since TWW2, where his faction mechanic was complete ass.
>>521778991Saving the best for last
>"The Future of Total Warhammer 3" happens>people find references to Thanquol in the codeThe ratniggers would cry and I would be lmaoing my ass off.
>>521779726>The future of Total Warhammer 3I keep my knife sharped at all times just for this day
>>521779726Kek I honestly hope it happens. The game has had plenty of content.It is pretty much done. Some finetuning is all it needs
>>521779541What was wrong with it? I didn't think it was too bad tbhwy.
>>521779831As long as Isolation 2 is in development, Warhammer is safe.
>>521779929"some finetuning" is an understatement but yeah more or lessthe thing is ca is not going to work on the game unless people are buying dlc so we still need a few more realistically
>>521779153I'm playing a campaign with her right now.With her Lords Army buffs, including skills, they turn into nice line infantry (high 40's in A/D), but still not the best. She also has access to Ogre Maneaters (normal and pistol variants) but she has zero buffs for them, unlike Zhao. They (Sartosians) can't hold the line worth a shit vs large units and fall apart to any spells. I just switched to some Depth Guard and Rotting Prometheans with Guns instead and both doing wildly better, and she since has horde mechanics, they're dirt cheap anyways including with tech ups. Her short and long victories are also flavorless. She does start next to two factions that are neutral with her though, 3 if you count Arkhan the Black who loves you. It was comfy not getting gang banged for once.
>>521779973IIRC the lizardmen armies would keep on spawning even if you had already wiped them all out.
Why did CA try to make Hyenas?
>>521780228their shareholders have brainrot
Prove you're a real TCAASSS fan.
>>521780228Rob Bartholomew the former chief product officer of CA who was fired in December 2023. He was the guy that also set DLC prices and what was in the DLCs. Hyenas was his pet product. Everything they made off Warhammer 1 snd 2 were shoveled into it.
>Shogun 2 has so much quality of life shit compared to TWs that came after>Don't return most of itExplain
>>521779406He is awful in battle, and huntsmen even with all the upgrades are at best ok but nothing special, not enough to compensate having what is one completely useless slot (Wulfhart) when Huntsmen won't ever compare to Shades, Ostankya's Ambushers or even tech buffed Ice Guard
>>521780441So that explains why Pharaoh was fucked as well as Shadows of Change DLC and whatnot. Do I also blame him for fucking up Three Kingdoms?
>>521780705Pharaoh was fucked because it originally was supposed to be DLC for Troy, but then Troy was a flop of epic proportions and they decided to release Pharaoh as a stand alone game, betting on desperate histoids buying it because they were starved for manii vs manii.
>>521780453Same thing that happened with Warhammer, especially 3. Relying on old code and old head's ideas, and didn't know how to replicate it as more of them went away. That and really bad decisions of course, see >>521780441
>>521780705Grace singlehandedly destroyed three kangdoms modding scene = ded game
i really want to play tw40k guys
>>521774250trve vnderstander
>>521780491>He is awful in battleIn what way? >huntsmen even with all the upgrades are at best ok but nothing specialFair enough. I liked using them in his army tbhwy. There's something fun about taking normal units and buffing them and making them way better than how they started out.
>>521781951Aren't dragons literally cheaper than dragon princes in imrik's army?
so what's the status on the first major balance patch for tw:wwiii?
Gonna make some coffee and continue my ogres campaign.
Has anyone got a fat norf fc bloke blowing a horn similar to pic rel?I wanna cook up something for the next general Howling citadel
Gonna put away my cum rag, crack open a red bull and start my ___________ campaign.
>>521782635Tyrion.
Can making a general and his bodyguard unit be good a viable strategy? Or would the general still fold like paper?
>>521782830Play Medieval 2 and find out.
>>521782635Skaven/Beastmen
>>521782830in shogun 2? no
Never forget bikini Sun Ren
>>521783206Why there traits then for it in Shogun 2?
>>521783726for multiplayer or something idk
>>521782830>play Medieval 2>destroy whole armies with two bodyguard units>play Shogun 2>general falls over and dies on contact with enemyMust be all the rice
>>521782495
>get hill map>cool, my infantry can shoot freely then>huh, why aren't they shooting?>zoom in>the hill is wavy and provides natural cover to troops moving upwardsi hate CA, i hate those fucking toothless paki worshiping inbred faggots so much
>>521785169Was it the one with two land bridges?
finished my first ever vh campaign holy shit what a fucking slog this game sucks
>>521785284i'm doing a rematch, i pretty much have to move down near the road in order to get a clear line of sight
>>521785598Just fought on that one. Was brutal because it was Vampirates vs dwarfs, and I had a bunch of deck gunners while they had a bunch of iron drakes. Normally wouldn't be an issue but yes it sucked ass.I don't even bother with gunpowder units in Cathay maps.
>>521781947His tactics are crude, but they're effective for what he had to work with, anything beyond what he did was ultimately unnecessary>had his units keep formations instead of one big blob>had infantry (likely stinking morgul rats) infront of the towers to protect them from any sallies and distract any fire that would have hit the more valuable trolls>didnt bother with a flank guard because he had a whole detachment that should have intercepted any Rohan reinforcements>used his blocks to immediately set up what should have been an effective counter to a cavalry chargeMeanwhile film Theoden is a fucking idiot >I'm going to stand on top of this hill and give my enemy time to organize a defense while making my cavalry charge ridiculously thick instead of longer, along with cavalry blocks with far too many men that should be broken down into more smaller groups to aid in the widening of the charge
>>521783539fucking sexist
What the fuck is with the phalanx in rome 1, I charged a cavalry on the rear of a phalanx and I still got damage
>>521787294Rome1 and medieval 2 suck
>>521787221I miss her, bros.
>>521787072I have not seen this Grace before, where is it from?
>>521787072what a fucking slut
/twg/ will never be this good.
>>521787072this qtpie destroyed the total war series??
>>521788092>not even 1k viewsI have more influence than this man where's my press key
>>521785169Skill issue
>>521785169Empire and napoleon suck cocks but they did teach me to always check my guns' PoVs
>>521788092>video game solver
>>521788092The real irony is that he did the first battle for Astragoth and decided he solved the game.
>>521787749After surrounding them they can just reposition their phalanx for some reason, holy fuck
>>521788092Every total war game's battles can be beaten with one hand. What point was he trying to make exactly? (aside from making sure everyone knows he's a massive faggot)
>>521787947no idea, i have saved some of her pics from here, but don't stalk her
>>521789354He didn't beat a battle. He solved the game. After that single skirmish he is now the best Warhammer player that has ever lived.
>>521789354>be autist>newest total war is not a historical title>sperg out>people tell you you're being autistic>sperg out some more>make bad faith video showing that you were "right all along">800 viewsIrrelevant spergoid with a failed youtube channel constantly being proven wrong by how few people care about his opinions.Sad!
>>521789438thats a rare grace too~any others?
>>521789980
>bring 3 full stacks to assault Skavenblight>forgot to give AI control to the other two>two of the armies arrive at the same time so the units get mixed up>take some time to sort them up>get nuked
>>521790420There's apparently a trick to getting nuked but I don't know itThey always nuke at a specific second and only target stationary units something like that. So you can sacrifice one poor bloke.
>>521788092>894 viewsI have more views on some random video I did showing off my plants lmao
>Declared War on Elector CountsWait, what does it mean? Does it count all wars ever started by other AI factions against AI Electors? It's this thing nuking my Fealty with everyone. I thought this debuff is only applied when I wage war without Casus Belli against an Elector. It doesn't look manageable otherwise
>>521790690Are they nice plants?
>>521784872Cheers ladI will make something soon
>>521790169she would make a nice derpy quirk chungus wife
>>521790738>use recruit defeated legendary lord's cheat>it cheats in an unintended way
>>521790528Yeah I know but I wasn't paying attention and there were so many units on the bar I didn't even notice I got nuked right away.When I was done sorting my artillery army and dealing with the menaces bellow, I saw my first army I had hidden behind a rock to wait for the others was pretty much wiped out. (lost 5 units + the 8 others were very badly damaged)
>>521787072>you can't have bikini mod in your videa games>I can post myself next to big penis on social media
>>521790959interesting
>>521790984The first time I fought Chaos Dwarves I was busy trying to get rid of their dreadquake mortars with gyros I didn't notice that my dwarfs were getting completely decimated by some sort of army ability
>>521790772I thought so
>>521790169what a legend(oftotalwar)
>>521790690>the plants in questiond
>>521788092Why is he so bad at video games?
>>521791165Is that le epic stoner weed
Yeah I think I'm ready to game.
>>521791619yes yes
>Wurzzag gives his boyz magic attack>he starts next to dwarfs>dwarfs with innate magic resist
>>521792010This used to be a problem in TWW2 but no longer in 3. There's no more magic res, there's only spell res.
MIRMILLO GLADIATORS
>>521792010the same talent that give his army magical attacks also strips all enemies of their magic resistance
gotta love early game morghur
>>521793119haha yeah so relatable i also use whatever cheats you have
>>521793453I've done the same thing in vanilla MP. Morghur starts with two types of mortis engine + 75% missile res. He's probably the strongest lvl 1 Lord that's not a duelist.
>>521792010>mfw I accidentally sent Belegar's ancestor heroes against a magic attack chaos dwarf infantry
>>521788092>The only battle he ever played in WarhammerWait...So you mean you're telling me...That all of this time... all of these years of nonstop complaining and criticizing...He had never actually played the game he was talking about???It was all just... bullshit he hadn't actually seen????Say it ain't so, Volound, my man.
>>521788092>894 views, April 14thWell that's low, but it has been less than a day so->2023lmaooooo imagine talking like that while being that irrelevant
>>521794687He doesn't actually play video games.
>>521791024the faggot is correct, the mod adds the new lords through a war script or something similar, if you check your relations with another empire faction it will say "past wars with...[empire faction which you recruited the LL from]"
>>521792264Its not 'ere
GONNA STAB
>>521796194work on my machine ya git >>521724873
>>521796194WH2 vs WH3
>>521796194why did they change this uivgh
>>521796194>>521724873Damn WH3 really went dark mode didn't itCentered text on the skillsDarkened the background of the boxesRemoved all the flair around the buttons
>>521797882CA realized we're all picrel and made the needed adjustmentsI like the new UI
>>521797882Once I got used to it and they fixed dumb stuff like the first versions where you couldn't tell if a building was being demolished, I find it way better than how it was before.
total war
huhI just killed him while he was in a march stance. There was seemingly no rise dead after battle. I am aware of his trait, but not even one turn passed. Not only he instantly respawns, he then proceeds to suicide into my army? I had never happen this before.>>521794880Funny, but makes sense. I accepted confederations from some useless minors for RP sake.
>>521797882i used the parchment ui mod for wh3 and it looks so good but it doesn't work on certain factions like arbaal and i think ogressomehow works for chorfs and nurgle evne tho it never gets updated
>>521796194>>521797197>>521797882https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3142209008It really fucking annoys me that mod isn't updated and crashes the game. Old sounds are honestly more important that UI look here, TWW3 is so quiet, everything sounds like wet fart.
>>521799458
umm tzeentch can keep spamming glean magic to silence my spellcaster permanentlywhy isn't this banned in mp?
>>521801515It is, under Prohibitive Movement, you can't take actions that limit the amount of possible actions your opponent could take
Vampiresisters?
>>521802126Arbald has a quest battle?
>>521802126Why does he remove feet from his opponents?!
>>521801931So you cant perform a pincer attack?
>just wiped out all the vampire cunts out of the empirefeels good man
>>521802452Not if it makes your opponent cum. That counts as incapacitating your opponent.
New thread>>521799818>>521799818>>521799818
>>521781996Ranged lords used to count as artillery so when they hit a blob of units they did good splash damage and could kill shit. I'm not sure if they reverted it, it's been a while since i've used a ranged lord but they at some point made it count as a regular archer unit. Thereby, IF they managed to hit something (which is a feat in of itself) then it can usually only kill one, maybe two units at a time. As compared to their melee counterpart that can shred through infantry much faster. Ranged units strength is from their numbers, the chance of the individual unit actually hitting a target is pretty small, you just get a lot of chances with more archers. Combining the fact that they take ten seconds per reload to maybe not miss and kill one or two units and constant need for proper positioning causes them to be inefficient compared to their counterparts. They may have solved this problem in Warhammer3, i'm not sure. I think i used the new ranged lord (the one with the gun) that came with the Nuln DLC and they seemed fine, though they also had the advantage of getting a steam tank mount so they couldn't get bullied and knocked around. Markus doesn't have that luxury. Also, i'm pretty sure his snipe ability doesn't arc like a regular arrow. So you need to get a straight line of sight (in a lustria map lol) to actually make use of it, and i don't remember it being all that accurate. There are so many variables you need to take into account when you could just use a melee lord who tend to have better skills for the army anyway.
>>521778295Because you get free armies from it, that with technologies can be equal to mid game armies. Also Khorne has the auto settle mechanic as long as you have one city in the region, so you don't have to waste time and money to settle them.
>>521780441You can also thank him for the ROC campaign and the fact kislev was fucked since he forced them to put kostaltyn in the game when he wasn't ready.
>>521816319Actually it may have been Ian braxbury or whatever his name is.
