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Store link:
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# Guides (Major spoilers; avoid until having played through the game once):
>Routes & Subroutes
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050501797
>Achievements
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050231198
>Stars
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3053199741
>Complete Episode 2 Walkthrough
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052417644

# News:
>CHAPTER 3A HAS BEEN RELEASED
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=523086940514289223

# Nemlei's previous games:
https://mega.nz/file/FSFXURYI#FhEp5w4qMv4w0A0mMfQ4YqLD5TJuve014_-eTNdIbSI

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Shroomed™
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>>521750687
Big tip on Shroomley
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Showing Julia what morning woods are made of
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ALL THE CG'S AS OF EPISODE 3A ARE HERE WITH HUMAN-READABLE NAMES. NO MORE DISCONNECTED BULLSHIT LIKE "dbba9b9900ad0512" AND "745d9cd1d7fc6c79" BELONGING TO THE SAME SCENE.

1000+ IMAGES FULLY SORTED! TWO ARCHIVES BECAUSE OF THE 200MB LIMIT ON CATBOX. ENJOY!
https://files.catbox.moe/rzrksu.zip
https://files.catbox.moe/si3kdz.zip
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>>521750826
HUSSIE NIGGER!!!!
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Stick.
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>>521750621 (OP)
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>>521750917
thanks for the dolphin porn, lost my last stash
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>normie's reacts to Shots
The whole comment section is like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9umzC38tbms [Embed]
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>>521750917
Thank you for your service
>>521750956
Agartha A10*
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>>521750621 (OP)
Based mutant plants
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Why does Ashley like the mop in the basement so much?
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>>521751263
Because it reminds her of Andrew's hair
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Has anyone thought of a plausible explanation for why they didn't abort Ashley? Surely the mania of being fifteen and pregnant wore off after Andrew's first birthday.
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>>521750917
Chad autist vs. virgin obfuscation.
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>>521751263
The other mops are too big and heavy for her.
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>>521751075
Another route? Coming soon!™
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>>521751263
She's a womanlet so it's the perfect size.
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>>521751318
They aren't monsters, anon
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Reminder that Ashley is 5'3 and Andrew is 6'1
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>>521751318
Because abortion is evil
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>>521751318
They were just kind of living on autopilot at that point. They already had to be parents, maybe not being an only child will make the first one more normal(hindsight obviously did not bear this out)
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>>521751318
Renee was too proud to admit she wasn't ready because she wanted to spite her mother.
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>>521751318
Stupidity. They genuinely misunderstand children and thought that Andrew being so "independent" at a young age was in any way normal and good.
Note that "independent" is codespeak for "we barely gave him any attention and he didn't care". I wonder how a total lack of connection with his parents would impact how he forms relationships with people in the future?
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what is this phenotype?
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>>521751669
The most plausible explanation, plus Andy was a natural born sociopath that didn't cry a lot even as a baby.
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>>521751738
Eastern European, I was at an Easter party yesterday and everyone looked like this.
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>>521751738
100% Aryan bioweapon straight from the Patmos eugenics laboratory.
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>>521751738
Agent 47
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>>521751738
Adjacent 47.
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>>521751738
Yakubian
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>>521751753
Is that actual ASPD behavior? That would make me lol because my parents always told me I was such an easy baby and almost never cried and later I was diagnosed
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>>521751512
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>>521751738
Chad Thundercock
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Best potential ending for Decay:
>Ashley ascends to demonhood (and loses her human personality)
>captures Anders
>wraps him up in her sisterwife eldritch tendrals
>never lets him go ever again and uses demon magic to keep him alive forever
>trapped Anders gets a fate worse then death
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>>521750917
nice work
how did you unscramble the file names?
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>>521751318
Andrew was the mistake that changed their life path and because he was so passive and distant as a child gave them a misunterstanding of both Andrew and how being a parent was. Which is ironic because ep3 proved that she was an older sibling and had a bad time by her standards so it could mean anything which imo contradicts that.
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>>521751898
femdom fags get the cuckshed ending
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>>521751889
What does she want? A nephilim?
>>521751934
He did it manually
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>>521751889
Bitch is into Andre the Giant
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>>521751753
I found myself after reading this
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>>521751889
She's right though, the difference between a 6'1 guy and a 5'9 is like half a palm.
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>>521751934
He did not. The names are unofficial.
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>>521751934
>unscramble
I didn't; I came up with my own names. It took 5 days to sort through them all.
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BEWARE THE HUSSIES!
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>>521751898
look at this repulsive thing.
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>>521751753
I'm genuinely so curious if there's something to this or if you made it up
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>>521752281
incredible jpg quality there
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>>521752303
I dunno, Andrew is a grime soul which shows an internal conflict about himself, while sociopaths and psychopaths aren't really bothered by it.

The fact that both Andrew and Ashley are a grime and tar soul, respectively, kinda says they have a lot of self-loathing which precludes them from being those.
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>>521752281
Based and sisterpilled warning flyer.
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>>521752281
Imagine going to Staples and seeing Ashley print out 200 copies of this.
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>>521752440
That thing about sociopaths isn't true, the diagnosis is so broad that many of them would like to not be the way they are
As for the souls, in the canon of the game your soul represents how you see yourself
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>>521751075
>After finishing this video my emotions feel violated, destroyed, harrased, SA'd...
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>>521751889
>t. 4'10" womanlet
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>>521752296
Oh... Ashley...
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Ashley wants to go on a walk. It's the only way Andrew could come up with to keep her out of trouble.
>>521752352
I had to resize it because the original was made for ants.
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>>521751075
Such a drama queen and he's a man.
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>>521752702
enough with the slop
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I wonder if it's valid to see SPLAT ending as Andrew Wins, while Shots and Such as Ashley wins.

Dead end has them spiral down until they reach their breaking point, but how their story ends, is more or less one of them ultimately submitting.
Splat is Ashley taking some accountability and giving him the consideration of offering to die together, because she knows it means a lot to him.
She's finally made progress she began in Cliffhanger, but it was too little, too late.

Shots and Such is Andrew ultimately letting Ashley win, and submits to her desire to give them a chance, even though he knows it won't end well.
Deciding to embrace Ashley is something Andrew is on his path towards to currently in Cliffhanger.

It's basically either of them making the development they're doing in Cliffhanger together, but it's far too late to fix things.
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>>521752702
post the original
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>>521752596
>>521751889
I really think short women are hypocrites whenever they fetishise tall men. I'm 6'3" and the last thing I want is for my sons to be 4 foot tall because I banged a gremlin. Tall boys for tall girls, it only makes sense.
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>>521750917
ooohhhh~
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>>521752891
I don't think Women really seriously gauge the height of men, they just say this of a gut feeling, and to them, a guy they like, even if he's like 5.9, would still be 6'3.
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>>521752281
Thanks for the warning kind stranger
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>>521752702
>putting a signature on a slop
do retards really?
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>>521752994
Women are just incapable of understanding imperial units. That's why Eurosissies use metric.
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>>521752891
they subconsciously know their sons will be manlet incels if they choose average height guy. it's just optimal mating strategy
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>>521752281
>>521752352
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>>521752846
>Shots and Such is Andrew ultimately letting Ashley win, and submits to her desire to give them a chance, even though he knows it won't end well.
>Deciding to embrace Ashley is something Andrew is on his path towards to currently in Cliffhanger.
Replace these Ashleys with Leyleys and you're correct.
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>>521753105
Their sons are going to be manlet incels no matter what, lmao
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>>521753123
Well, in shots and such, true, she's fully retreated into acting like Leyley.
But in cliffhanger, she is coming out of her shell and is in conflict with herself, what he thinks of Andrew.
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>>521752891
i 100% agree. im 6'6" and womanlets tend to see me as nothing more than good breeding stock. i have no intention of ever dating someone who needs to carry a stepstool around everywhere so they tend to get really pissed when i point this out lol
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>>521752772
>>521753037
>Anti-AI retards think an actual drawing is AI
Always the dumbest retards who get replaced by new tech.
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who do you think is Nelmei's self-insert character?
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>>521752702
post the original or else
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>>521753272
Ash-lei
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>>521753265
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retard.
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>>521753272
Renee
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>>521753272
Ashley
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>>521753272
The shopkeep.
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>>521752867
>>521753338
Not sure what you mean, it's the original. Here: https://x.com/Grav_walker/status/1911690794794098967/photo/1
>>521753265
Technically, that artist does both, sometime they do it by hand, sometime they do it with AI, sometime they mix both. They made a bunch TCOAAL sprite variants by hand for exemple.
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>>521753272
>who do you think is Nelmei's self-insert character?
Ashley
>>521753265
I have never seen AI accompany a good post, I have never seen good posters that utilize AI. I don't have anything against AI generation, but it's hard to not have my opinion colored by the fact that everyone posting AI stuff on this site is a brainrotted shitdick retard.
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>>521751934
It's great work. And the filenames tower_will_they_ tower_wont_they and tower_WOOOOOOOOO_THEY_WILL made me smile
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>>521753501
you fucking nigger.
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>>521753404
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>>521753501
I meant the original non-resized version of >>521752281
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>>521752296
Imagine her thousand hands stimulating every part of your body....
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>>521752846
ashley sure does look like she's winning in SnS
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>>521753451
Where is this from? Looks like a Steam page
Also that support exposition character is Andrew right? That does sound like a retarded idea

Also what emoji is she talking about
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>>521753626
When your sisterwife calls you oniichan.
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>>521753113
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>>521753705
Ah okay, here: https://x.com/Grave0fmyOwn/status/1911647243817410993
>>521753669
I'm not your dad.
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>>521753785
>>521753626
I wonder how the Japanese translation will pull this off because translator-kun does have Ashley call him oniichan a few times throughout Episode 1 and 2, yet Andrew here tells her that she never calls him "big brother". Maybe Japanese Ashley will call him aniki here?
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>>521753741
She at several points says she accepts the mutual abuse as "happens to the best of us".
She's just literally incapable of giving up on them and will force it, as they hate it, and hurt each other.
Well, Leyley would, Ashley is a different matter, but she's well and fully retreated in these.
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>>521753748
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900/view/4453592738017838121
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>>521753893
oh ok nevermind then, that's just fucked at the source
can't believe people put effort into making something and upload it at that quality, does no-one have any pride?
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>>521753917
retcon all the onionchan to Andrew kun
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Fix her bushy eyebrows Nemlei.
Retcon it NOW
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>>521753917
>does have Ashley call him oniichan a few times throughout Episode 1 and 2
Why? Is it just when she says something like 'Andrew my dear'?
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>>521750621 (OP)
So development for episode 4:decay will apparently take a long time... how long we talking? I think it'll come out in 2026.
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>>521753917
The same way they did in the burial route vision scene, since she does the exact same thing there.
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>>521754073
Son, back in my day we jacked off to 240p camgirl streams at 15fps. And that's if the connection was good.
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>>521754175
My hopium is Decaying Along this Halloween, Burial next Halloween
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>>521754229
Back in my day we jacked off to magazines and GGW VHS tapes.
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>>521754229
Son, back in my day we jacked off to the lingerie section of the Sears catalog. And that's if the pages hadn't gotten all crusty.
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>>521754073
>oh ok nevermind then, that's just fucked at the source
Yeah, I couldn't do much about it.
Still worth sharing IMO
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>>521754185
Japanese Ashley basically says "Quite the vision huh? Oniiiiiiiiiiiiiichan?"
(I'm assuming you're talking about pic related)
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>>521754129
Damn, I never noticed but she does look really off without her big eyebrows.
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>>521751318
Didn’t Renee say her and Douglas thought they could handle another child because Andrew was an easy baby. Also Renee would’ve been like 16 or 17 when she got knocked up with Ashley, teenagers aren’t known for rational thinking which is why she probably thought she’d be fine being a teen mom of two.
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>>521754514
She looks completely off
Nemlei fixed shirt tags. She must fix her eyebrows
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Is there any CG of Andrew kissing Julia on the mouth?
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>>521754175
Nemlei said it could be up to another year for Decay part 2 in the March devlog, indicating March 2026 the latest. I personally am guessing December. I think Burial will be Q4 2026, if there’s a Burial part 2 then Q3 or Q4 2027 for that.
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Ashley (not Leyley) will love her inbred kids.
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>>521754476
Yeah that one. Shame if they use onii-chan elsewhere then, that would make it even more impactful in Japanese.
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>>521754889
In the dream.
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Best Nemboy
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>>521752846
Shots n' Such is a "No one wins" scenario, the game explicitly says so. Neither of them are really getting what they want, let alone what they need, they're just on a hedonic treadmill running from one temporary high to the next till they die. Splat isn't an Andrew win per se but it definitely is him taking control, but it's too late. In that ending, he's incapable of moving forward in life in a way he wants but he's also unwilling to persist as he is like with the Leyley wins ending, so he decides to take control of his own life in the only way he feels he can, by ending it. Ashley joins in because she hasn't learned to live without him in this route (idk if she will in any route, but we'll have to see) and she knows joining in the suicide would mean a lot to him, so in essence it's the ultimate role reversal. Andrew is the impulsive and self-destructive one who cannot be talked down from an action, while Ashley is reluctant and fearful of the consequences of what they're about to do, but can't bring herself to stop him nor to walk away.
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Fix them
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>>521755046
>Not giving her a brother
That's the problem here.
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>>521754929
Would Ashley even be capable of loving her own children (with Andrew)?
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>>521755067
he cute

>>521755151
yes
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>>521751318
Andrew was easy to raise so they assumed Ashley would be too. That's genuinely it
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>>521755151
No.
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>>521755151
Maybe a boy
But a girl is getting aborted 101%
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>>521755106
Done.
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>>521755301
I meant Julia's eyebrows
She has BUSHY eyebrows not ugly thin eyebrows FIX THEM
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>>521755301
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>>521755031
so now there are more images of Andrew kissing his own sister rather than his GF?
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>>521755698
He likes her more
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>>521755698
>GF
*ex gf
And that goes without saying.
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>>521753338
Based based based Total Julia death
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>>521755750
I think Ashley is Andrew's first GF he forgot to break up with before he started dating another woman
I think Ashley thought this but is too dumb to put it into words
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>>521755698
As it should be
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>>521756151
Andrew has been de facto dating his sister since high school
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>>521756236
He wasn't, he called her stupid in his head for yapping about marriage.
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>>521756236
since elementary school*
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>>521756321
just like I did with my first girlfriend
>>521756373
elementary schoolers don't have girlfriends even if they say they do
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>>521755698
There's also more images of Andrew fucking his sister.
>>521756036
Read the sign, hussy >>521752281
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>>521756236
Andrew has been Ashley's dad, while Ashley always saw it as a marriage when they were kids.

When they turned teenager, Andrew grew to be romantically attached to her, while Ashley only grew to really understand the romantic bond by like age 18/19, before that she saw him as a mixture of her best friend, brother.
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>>521752846
The route choice is like a prisoner's dillema and in the Decay dead end they've both already decided to betray. At that point it's not really about winning, just having the last word.
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>>521756429
They never went on a date or did anything romantic. The closest thing to that was the cliffhanger route.
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>>521756653
>When they turned teenager, Andrew grew to be romantically attached to her
He always was.
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>>521756704
>They never went on a date
Andrew had room dates with her!! And he bought her cute corny gifts.
>never did anything romantic
Andrew flirted with her nonstop
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>>521750621 (OP)
Episode ranking? For me?

3 > 2 > 1
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>>521756704
>never did anything romantic
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>>521756808
I personally don't think you feel romantic attachment before like thirteen
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>>521756825
Yeah I agree, Nemlei is a phenomenal writer early in her career and we're still watching her improve
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>>521756819
>Andrew flirted with her nonstop
He only started flirting during the quarantine.
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>>521756825
I like them all but the Cliffhanger kiss was the highest point in the game. The camping part was the weakest tho (it has nice optional scene like the cousins, the ring and the Julia call at least).
2 is the most consistent quality wise.
1 is great but suffers from having clearly been planned as a standalone and the inner logic of it is getting shaky with the 3 flashbacks (I still don't think they act like they recently reconciled after a year long falling out).
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>>521756808
not really, for the longest time, and still, he identifies himself as her protector, caretaker, essentially father.
Everything he's done, he typically did to shoulder her from problems.
Even when there were rumors, his first thought was whether Ashley was being bullied again.
He also started dating Julia to protect his identity as Ashley's protector.

Even douchebag thing seemed more fatherly of him given how he knew that he just saw Ashley as an easy lay and he didn't want Ashley to be hurt.
However, this is also around that time when he began to see Ashley romantically too, when he began dating Julia.
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>>521757021
>He only started flirting during the quarantine
This meme needs to be updated to reflect 3A
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>>521756236
This was one of the parts that made me the most jealous of Andrew
Man I wish I had a sister who jumped on me and cuddled in school and relied on me to fix things for her
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>>521757127
Andrew planned to spend as little time as possible with her until he gets his English degree and starts flipping burgers full time. Then he would've abandoned her to move in with Julia.
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>>521757127
>At least there won't be incest in Decay...
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>>521757276
Yeah because he is a two-timing whore. Next question.
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>>521756916
That's a weird belief.
>>521757105
>Even douchebag thing seemed more fatherly of him
That's absolute bullshit, he was having a Ashley type meltdown and was winding up to storm out like Ashley did with the Julia thing.
>>521757021
We literally see them flirting in the middle of class.
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Decay: The Moral Decay of Andrew Graves
Burial: The Burial of Andy and Leyley
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>>521756819
>Andrew flirted with her nonstop
I think this really fucks with Ashley's head
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>>521756825
1 >= 2 > 3
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>>521757276
SNS proves that this would fundamentally not have worked. He'd have returned to Ashley because his life has zero meaning without her.
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>>521750917
I keked. Great work, autism-kun.
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>>521757276
>Andrew planned to spend as little time as possible with her until he gets his English degree and starts flipping burgers full time.
He pretended he was planning that, it's obvious he'd have never actually done it or at least probably took Ashley with him when he left.
He's been pussyfooting around with plans like that since elementary school and his talks with Julia and her ultimatums make that clear. Even with her ultimatum, he wasn't actually gonna talk to Ashley, he only did it because Julia told her first.
>>521757127
It's still pretty accurate.
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Andrew also had to bathe little Ashley and do her hair, which I think did a lot to fuck up his own preconceptions around seeing her in a romantic light because he had to do basic parenting things for her.
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>>521756825
i agree with >>521757102

i love 1 the most because it was a new thing and that feeling cant be topped
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>>521757623
This was such a satisfying scene
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>>521757662
When did this happen?
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>>521757375
>That's absolute bullshit, he was having a Ashley type meltdown and was winding up to storm out like Ashley did with the Julia thing.

While it is true there was jealousy on his end too, it's only something that he felt afterwards, first and foremost, he didn't want Ashley to be hurt
Ashley was upset over Julia thing because she saw it for a betrayal, Andrew thought Ashley would get hurt.
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>>521757662
>Oh, that's right! You basically raised this woman.
Nemlei is 100% doing it on purpose to trigger retards on twitter, too bad they'll never get that far into the game.
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>>521757784
When you interact with the shower in S&S
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Do you think Ashley actually saw their relationship for what it is? A nonphysical romantic partnership? That would make a lot of her melting down make more sense to me as then Andrew would literally be cheating on her, unbeknownst to himself
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>>521757662
>Andrew also had to bathe little Ashley and do her hair,
Which is adorable.
>>521757835
>it's only something that he felt afterwards,
That's literally the first thing he felt, that's why he was sulking in his room and stewed in it until he blew up.
Dude was about to make Ashley's Julia death threats look like a joke.
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>>521757784
SPLAT! suicide ending, if you go to shower, Ashley asks him to do her for her one last time before they die, and remembering he bathed her as a small child disgusted him with himself enough to throw up in the toilet.
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>>521757662
Did he brush his imouto's teeth too?....nice.
While looking for this image I found this, which is basically canon now: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/482077912/#482196625
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>>521757276
Yeah, that plan was going so well
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>>521757971
A key part of the game is that both Ashley and Andrew are too young, unaware, and in denial to understand what they want their relationship to be. Figuring that out is the story in its entirety
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>>521757947
Ah. I recently played through this entire game up until SNS but I didn't get this dialogue. Damnit.
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>>521758038
Lock down was probably the best thing that could happen to them otherwise they would have made their relationship worse with Andrew trying hard to be normal
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>>521751738
Professional hitman.
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>>521757276
And then he would have emotionally died inside until he threw himself off a building because he tries to reconnect with Ashley only to find out she found a high building first.
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>At a family get together a few weeks ago
>My cousin's step daughter still sits on his lap even though she's in high school
Incest is so weird when you see it irl
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>>521758418
>STEP-daughter
Doesn't count
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>>521758418
>step
>incest
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>>521758418
Also just sitting on the lap doesn't mean incest
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>>521758071
>Ashley and Andrew are too young, unaware, and in denial to understand
I think Ashley is further along in understanding their relationship to each other but doesnt understand how to love another person as an adult
While Andrew is the opposite
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>>521757971
Ashley literally thought she was his wife before Andrew had even admitted to liking her despite clearly having already a certain love for her perceptiveness and her ability to get him.
Her seeming inability or refusal to understand him as they grew up is probably one of his main source of frustration but he doesn't realize it's his own fault since Ashley get the real him that he buried under 50 layers of copes and mental gymnastics to the point he's not even aware of it anymore.
So yeah, from her POV, he was cheating as she keeps saying and that's why she keep saying he's full of shit when he says his sex life isn't his business (when he's literally peeking on her in the bathroom and groping her nonstop).
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>>521758418
I read "my cousin's step daughter" with the same intonation as "my wife's son"
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>>521758025
>Did he brush his imouto's teeth too?
I have a short GT about that if you want
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>>521757127
we approach the singularity
reorganized it because it didn't really make sense anymore
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>>521758717
Show us the imobrushing
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>>521758717
oh god, i remember that one
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>>521757105
>he identifies himself as her protector, caretaker, essentially father.
Don't know how true that is since for the majority of the time when they're kids, they act like normal brother and sister. Andrew even said he didn't even know that his mom was basically forcing him to raise her. Plus with Douchebag, he was about to interrupt their potential date and beat the shit out of him out of jealousy. Andrew gets just as jealous as Ashley
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>>521758642
>she keep saying he's full of shit when he says his sex life isn't his business (when he's literally peeking on her in the bathroom and groping her nonstop).
I hope this is hashed out explicitly cause it will be cute and funny
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>>521758861
>"Hey Andy, could you brush my teeth?" asked Ashley holding up her toothbrush
>"Why would I do that?" answered Andrew annoyed
>"My poor widdle dinosaur hands can't do it, Annnnndy"
>She flopped her wrists at Andrew
>"Ashley stop it, why can't you do it yourself"
>"Andrew pleeeeaaase, you never do anything for me"
>"I do everything for you all the time!"
>"Pweeeease"
>"Ok fine"

>"Alright hold me like this," said Ashley guiding Andrew left arm under her big tits and across her body
>"Then stand behind me and brush so I can make sure your doing it right in the mirror!"
>"This is retarded"
>"Too late, you already agreed!"
>Andrew began brushing her teeth like he would his own just her mouth instead
>She seemed to be enjoying it a little too much
>She was flushed and squirming, clasping her thighs together
>She moaned Andrew's name but was partially gagged by the toothbrush
>"Oh god, Andy hold me closer," she moaned in apparent ecstasy
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This series is good but I feel like a woman liking it.
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>>521758903
They really don't. He somehow didn't pick up on the fact that his parents gave her zero attention and zero guidance, so he thought he was just being a "good big brother" to her and not a "mom, dad, brother, and boyfriend" to her.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLqN1eUNmgE& [Embed]

>No ones listening, no one just like you
>Like evry breath thats wasted
>Look what its done to you
>I will come around, or have a drink or two
>I talk about the lifes you've shattered

>Watching as you fall (fall) from grace
>All things you can (can) regrace
>Memories that fade (fade) away
>Watching as you fall, as you fall
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>>521759105
So what? Women feel weird liking stuff like Mad Max
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>>521759102
>Eventually, Ashley looked like she was gonna explode
>She grabbed Andrew's hand and moved it toward her pussy
>"Ashley, what the fuck!?" Andrew yelled pulling his hand back
>"Andrew, please, oh god, I'm so fucking close, please touch me"
>"Fine"
>He inched his hand closer to her panties and slowly went in
>His middle finger touched her clit and she was done
>Her eyes widened and she clasped a hand over her mouth as she came
>"Oh god, oh fuck," she cried muffled by her hand
>She spasmed violently for a few seconds, then her legs failed and Andrew caught her
>Her panties were soaked through and Andrew fingers were drenched
>"Oh god, Andrew that was amazing. Can you carry me to bed? I don't think I can walk"
>"Spit out the toothpaste first"
>She did
>"Let me wash my hands"
>"I got it," Ashley said slipping his pussy soaked fingers into her mouth
>"That's fucking gross, Ashley"
>"Mhhhhmm"
>Andrew carried the tuckered out Ashley to bed and tucked her in
>"Cuddle with me, Andrew"
>He silently got into bed with her and she put her head on his chest
>"That was wonderful, Andrew. We should do that every night"
>"No"
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>>521759102
Incredibly based
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>>521759280
i like how he immediately caves, "Fine"
lol
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>>521757127
>19. At least there won't be incest in Decay...
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Honestly, you can't convince me Andrew didn't use Ashley's panties during the quarantine.
Dude was already doing complete perv shit WHILE having a girlfriend to fuck to take the edge off, no way he went 3 months without doing something like that when locked up with Ashley 24/7.
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>>521757971
Ashley has always considered them to be soulmates so yes, she considered him dating and banging Julia to be cheating. She also knows exactly why Andrew is dating Julia which explains all the voicemails. Andrew constantly betraying her in her eyes is why she can't trust him anymore in the present
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>>521759527
Only losers jerk off into girls' underwear, Andrew is a female fantasy character
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>>521759280
It got even better. And Andrew would convince himself that totally wasn't sexual.
>>521759595
Only losers peep on girls changing through keyholes and yet that's what he did.
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>>521759735
>peep on girls changing through keyholes
NTA but how the fuck did i forget that happened? so much stuff in this update it's becoming a blur in my mind
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>>521759823
It's also two totally different routes so it's hard to keep it all straight
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>>521759573
>Andrew constantly betraying her in her eyes is why she can't trust him anymore in the present
Nah, she can't trust him because she broke the blood oath and projected that onto Andrew too, which is why no promise can placate her for long now since she internalized that those can be broken.
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Guys, I'm shaking. I'm fucking shaking.

I never wanted to breed with anyone more than I want to with Andrew Graves. That perfect, lean body. That messy mop of thick black hair. The beautiful emerald eyes of a literal god. It honestly fucking hurts knowing that I'll never mate with him, have him pass his genes through me, and give birth a set of perfect offspring for him.

I’d do fucking ANYTHING for the chance to get pregnant by Andrew. A N Y T H I N G. And the fact that I can't is quite honestly too much to fucking bear. Why would Nemlei create something so perfect? To fucking tantalize us? Fucking laugh in our faces?!

Honestly guys, I just fucking can't anymore. Fuck.
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>>521759573
>Ashley has always considered them to be soulmates
The game leads you believe Ashley is just a psycho brocon but the more that is revealed is that Andrew is a psycho siscon and Ashley is just accurately assessing the situation
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>>521760007
I know you have some saved so post some pics of what you think he'd look like irl
Body too
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>>521760007
Lord Unknown...
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>>521759735
>Only losers peep on girls changing through keyholes
if youre hot its romantic
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>>521759123
Renee gives Ashley attention, it's just all negative. It's less that no one else gave her attention and more that only Andrew gave her positive attention. When they're children, Andrew acts like nothing like a parent. He has no real authority over Ashley and Ashley still hides behind her actual parents when Andrew is angry at her
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>>521759595
>>521759735
Let's split the difference: He jerked off in her socks.
>>521760010
I can't even imagine the absolute insane freak shit Andrew would pull if Ashley just wasn't into him.
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>>521758821
Even that was debunked when the grandad got them both tested. They are 100% biological siblings, confirmed
We're already at 20
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>>521759735
>"That wasn't sexual! She just needed a little help finishing! Doing it herself is sinful! I'm literally saving her from the fires of Hell!"
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>>521760230
I do not think Andrew would be into Ashley if Ashley weren't so obsessed with him
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>>521759970
And it could be, you know, that he claims to have chosen her at every corner and immediately doing things that display otherwise. Or that his idea of the best outcome is a fictional reality for Ashley in his head is actually a selfish misguided effort to chase normalcy for himself despite knowing it will make both of them miserable or suicidal.
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>>521758959
I talready has been.
I feel like it's a good step, actually, it shows Ashley is growing out of being Leyley and is comfortable enough now to confront him about his shitty half-measures because she wants them to have a better relationship, one that isn't so toxic, or full of patchwork bandaids where they pretend like nothing is wrong.
Andrew was correct that, paradoxically enough, they were closer than ever at that point.
They just needed to get these agruements out of their system that they've been neglecting to have for these last several years.

While Ashley always saw them as married and felt like she should share his burdens with him and she should open up to him before, it wasn't until her late teenage years that did she understand what it means in practice, to elope, but she was ready and open to it, and now she's back to that state, where she wants them to have a good relationship.
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>>521760007
Good morning Ashley
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>>521760007
Based
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>>521760007
copy/pasta
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>>521760316
Andrew was into Ashley because she was the only person that could really understand him. He was always going to be into Ashley
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>>521760007
t.
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>>521760224
That's kind of what I implied by "attention". Positive attention. It's obvious that she gets attention when she acts out, but that's it. Nothing beyond that. It's kind of comical that Ashley didn't turn out even worse.
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>>521760483
I hate that Picturd only does gay stuff
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>>521760208
Same for panties tho.
>>521760272
>"Me regularly fingering my sister until her legs give out does not make my sex life her business!"
It's so funny how that's barely even exaggerate.
Andrew's mental gymnastics are so impressive, if he showed up at the Olympics, they'd have to invent a Diamond Medal to give him.
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>Leyley telling Andy she'll keep him in a box and only take him out to play in a flashback in episode 1
>their talk about jumping from the balcony
>Ashley calling Andrew a wife beater in episode 2
Every single ending so far has been foreshadowed. Anyone want to try and guess the others?
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>>521760631
He does straight stuff too sometimes
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>>521760464
>I talready has been.
Eh, we're halfway there but she still hasn't expressed it directly and clearly enough for Andrew to drop his 'Uh? What is she implying?'.
She need to go full in 'You've been dry humping me every day since we were 12, your sex life IS my business. YOU made it MY business' so Andrew is forced to acknowledge and address it.
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>>521760791
Incest babies being healthy and happy has been foreshadowed three times and absolutely will be part of the four kids two cars and a big backyard ending
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>>521760791
Andrew and Ashley get actually married and become the new Mr and Mrs. Graves then live in a nice house like Ashley wanted in episode 2
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>>521760081
I don't... but if you have any suggestions, feel free to share!
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>>521761218
My gf really likes this model's face for Andrew
Do you see him as like a swimmer's body or someone bigger?
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>>521761109
Forgot the part where she also goes 'And it's perfectly my right to not want a hussy involved in MY business'.
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I think in chapter 4, we may get Andrew having to choose Ashley on his own accord. Her forcing him to be with her isn’t working out and the sooner she learns this the better
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>>521761109
I'm not sure if it counts honestly, neither of them really saw it as sexual by that point.
The one time that it was, is when Andrew pushed her aside.
That said, they were cuddling and dry humping after they reconciled and all the way into episode 2 though.

While they certainly did sleep before, Id on't think Ashley would see it as sexual and hold it against him.
Andrew though, probably does now. but it looks like he'd have to accept that it's not just him who messed her up but he was too, and that it's not really his job to be her parent, letting go of that preconceived identity would probably be what he needs to be able to embrace the truth that he loves her..
These are the kinds of things I don't feel like they'd be able to work out with each other, as both Andrew and Ashley were able to undergo some development when they don't have each other to shut them down.
Andrew keeps taking responsibility by being in charge, so Ashley rarely grapples with the consequences of her actions.
And Andrew for his part, can't really see Ashley for an adult, and not his daughter until he works it out with himself
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>>521761572
>Her forcing him to be with her isn’t working out and the sooner she learns this the better
The only reason he's even Julia is because of a rumor that seemingly came from one of Ashley's attempt to force Andrew to only ever be with her ironically enough.
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>>521761572
She didn't force him. She ignored him and he came right back to her entirely of his own will even though he had a "normal girlfriend" and was trying to live a "normal life"
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>>521761308
yeah he looks like a RAPE victim
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>>521761572
That's probably Burial (sane). Chapter 4 is probably going to be him accepting who he is and how he feels instead of spending his whole life running from it and even trying to cope at the last moment by signing a deal with a literal devil.

>>521761719
cease your schizophrenia
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>>521761719
We don't know if Ashley started the rumor on purpose, or if she even started it at all for that matter.
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>>521761572
i mean, she already did, didn't she? she already is trying to be more healthy with him, kicked him ou during a fight he caused, so she is putting trust in them that she doesn't have to keep him attached to her hip.
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>>521761572
That's what the sane ending is, Ashley willing to "allow" Andrew to have his own romantic life will make him see she's matured and he'll fall back in love with her
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>>521761738
She ignored him how?
>>521761719
He didn’t have to ghost Ashley for a whole year
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>>521761643
>I'm not sure if it counts honestly, neither of them really saw it as sexual by that point.
The dry humping was a figure of speech, it could be anything else like his peeping or groping her ass and all that stuff.
Also given Ashley's speech about how she was sitting on his cock in the car, I'd say at least SHE saw it as sexual in a way.
Also don't forget that in Shots and Such: Their one time having genuine sex started from cuddling on the couch.
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>>521761839
Yeah. Ashley being a little more independent and distant may bring him in like a magnet
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>>521761786
Stop being retarded.
>>521761803
Even if she started it by accident, she probably ran with it as a way to isolate Andrew.
>>521761847
Yeah, I'm not saying Andrew was right, just that Ashley's actions have consequences.
Also the 'avoiding' was just no physical contact and was because of the elope thing, not the Julia thing.
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>>521761963
From the looks of it, dry humping, groping, being horny is only really a behavior that they began doing after reconciling as a shitty half measure of Andrew being unable to come to terms with how he feels about her.
Ashley, just kinda puts up with it because she doesn't want to rock the boat, has kind of retreated into being Leyley, and/or is waiting for him to come around on his own time.
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>>521762186
Wdym ashley’s actions have consequences? What did she do wrong?
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>>521762186
>Even if she started it by accident, she probably ran with it as a way to isolate Andrew.
I doubt it.
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>>521754527
Andrew would be lonely
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>>521761847
>She ignored him how?
By not taking to him for an entire year and brushing him off
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>>521757662
How is he going to have a happy life with his sister if he's going to throw up every time he remembers this?
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>>521762359
He’s the one who did that to her!
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>>521762186
You keep trying to spread this but nobody is buying it because Ashley doesn't benefit or have proper reasoning to do it. She already has everything she wants from him.
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>>521762425
Acceptance.
LU mindfuckery.
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>>521762425
In SnS he gets over that immediately
One anon said he has a bunch of lines hes unwilling to cross but once he inevitably does he immediately stops caring about them
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>>521762219
>they began doing after reconciling as a shitty half measure of Andrew
She literally jump on his lap and cuddles with him in the middle of fucking class, anon.
>>521762452
You keep being retarded and denying what's said in the game with nothing to support your fanfic.
>Ashley doesn't benefit from isolating Andrew so he can't pick anyone but her
She assuage her insecurity, easy.
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>>521762425
In Dead End, he's become a tar soul, he's abandoned his preconceived identity of being Ashley's protector by wanting to murder her, and he's never recovered from it.

Cliffhanger seems to be him on a similiar journey, except instead of coming to hate Ashley, and himself, I think he's on the way to realize he loves Ashley and will have to reconcile that he isn't, and never has been her father, and it's not his responsibility, ultimately.

i feel like a big part of cliffhanger ending would be Andrew and Ashley learning to let their past trauma go, and release the souls of their parents to wander realm between..
Ashley still feels attached to them and doesn't want to feed them to ???, and as a demon, she keeps them around.

I feel like in cliffhanger, they finally come to terms and learn to let their past go so they could look forward to the future.
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>>521762667
You're the one running with out of character fanfic.
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Andrew was molesting and spying Ashley long before she ever "came onto" him, why are people surprised she doesnt have much interest in sex or having babies with someone who would definitely rape her daughter?
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>>521762731
>The game is fanfic, no u
Get a better bait.
>>521762706
>he's become a tar soul,
No, a tar-soul to be, he never fully hatches, like his mom.
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>>521762876
potato, potata desu, the point is, he betrays his main moral principle by trying to murder her, and it's his breaking point he never recovers from.
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>>521762786
??? He is into Ashley, not into incest in general
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>>521762876
The game debunks your own claims 3 seconds after the biased line you're trying to use as proof. It's no coincidence that a girl that Ashley has been beefing with since childhood is the source of the rumors and everyone else points to her.
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>>521762993
I actually think it's gonna be a very important distinction. Ashley's tar soul is clearly sought after for demons while Andrew's tar soul to be and Renee's tar soul to be are considered worthless.
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its all coming together
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>>521763073
>The game debunks your own claims
It doesn't. Your delusion is just false.
>that Ashley has been beefing with
She's one of Ashley's friends alongside Julia, AKA the first Ashley would tell that stuff to begin with, retard.
A major milestone in Andrew and Ashley's relationship isn't gonna be caused by a non-character.
>Everyone else
>One throwaway line
>Vs being directly told it's from Ashley in a mandatory dialogue
You're retarded.
>>521763267
Nice.
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>>521763153
??? actually wanted to deal with Andrew, as a tar soul to be once he murdered Ashley, it's just that Andrew gave up on life and ??? accepted he can't offer him anything.

As for Rene, she's kind of too dead to be of any use and she's been offered as a sacrifice.

in Dead End, ??? is still working with Ashley and she promised to become his forever servant so she's become more valuable than just a tar soul.
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>>521763364
nice bait
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>>521763041
How is Ashley supposed to trust that?
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>>521762786
>T. Douchebag
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>>521763410
>No u.
You should play the game now.
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>>521757259
Why is his arm so long
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Stickley
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>>521763567
You've been doing this shit for countless threads, stop the rumorschizoing. The only things we know are that there are rumors, the rumors originated from girls in Ashley's class, and that Rebecca contributed to spreading the rumors by talking about the bleachers thing whether or not she was the origin. You need serious fucking help because you KEEP doing this shit and trying to drive the thread off the rails, I don't know who shit in your cheerios but stop trying to become a thread personality.
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>>521763567
I did play the game, that's why I have all the context and you don't. You're the kind of anon that would see the Julia flashback in ep2 and not understand what was really happening and just assume it meant that Andrew missed Julia. So obvious that you're new here with the subhuman bait-level takes started a week after episode 3 dropped.
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What job do you think it was that Ashles genuinly wanted?
It´s probably something really infantile like working in a toy store or ice cream/candy shop because thats what she liked as a child and Ashley is kinda infantalised so its most likely somethin like that
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>>521750917
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>>521763398
It's pretty obvious the tar soul itself is valuable, Renee being dead should have no influence on that.
Just look at how Ashley's tar soul looked compared to Renee or Andrew's.
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Why did Ashley spread the rumor that Andrew raped her as a baby if it wasnt a cry for help?
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>>521763809
>What job do you think it was that Ashles genuinly wanted?
Housewife/NEET
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>>521763809
I think she wants to be an artist or an illustrator.
Maybe she goes on to become Nemlei.
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>>521762786
Nope, her ponytail was longer so it was college era Andrew peeping on Ashley.
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>>521763267
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>521763838
We see Ashley as a demon, not necessarily a tar soul, you need to undergo ascension.
A soul by itself is kind of useless since they haven't undergone a ritual to ascend, so once you sacrifice that soul, they cease to provide any usefulness beyond sustenance.

At least, that's the impression i have on how this works until we see more info.
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>>521763267
Where are her giant eyebrows and fat stomach?
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>>521763838
Tar soul has value because it can become or already is an "entity" vomits in waiting to be freed while having no care for morals because they accept they are bad people. Renee was too late to hatch into a tar soul because it needs to happen while they are alive. Andrew shows potential but LU is disappointed by his lack of progress since the last time they met.

>>521764109
Ashley already has the signature Eye motif if you go by ???'s marking Andrew as hers in both Burial and Andy-Decay. So it's not too far off of being a proper demon.
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>>521764223
And ugly pig nose, and cutting scars, and visible aura of unwashed stench.
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>>521763431
cliffhanger is very much building up to them finally being honest with each other
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>>521763267
She should have pubes sticking out.
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>>521763738
>Countless threads have people agreeing with you and it make me mad
Not my problem.
> the rumors originated from girls in Ashley's class
Who say it came from Ashley.
>Muh rebecca
Nobody cares about your autistic fixation on her.
>You need help because you say things that are true about the game and Ashley's behavior and it makes me mad, that's a derail
It's actually not a derail to talk about Ashley's behavior in the game.
A derail would be more like your emotional breakdown right now.
>>521763751
>No u
>Also I made up a scenario where you're wrong
God, you're so mad.
Also I was here before you, I was literally on the first thread of this general, wannabe oldfag.
Play the game now.
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>>521764453
Aaand he's back. Have fun with your mental illness I guess.
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>>521750917
I might go through the trouble of naming all the busts just because of you. Inspiring
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>>521764242
She's on her way, sure, but at least as far as I understand, she hasn't done what counts as a point of no return to ascending to demonhood.

also, the Burial thing happens when they both fully commit to demon bullshit, same for Andy, in Cliffhanger she's pulling back.
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>>521764453
You gonna delete this post in 5 or so minutes like you kept doing yesterday?
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>>521764223
>giant eyebrows and fat stomach
They are there, i used a size 20 brush for her eyebrows and i tried to do chubby skin
>>521764324
Her CUTE round nose is also there, cutting scars covered by the gloves and she smell like daisies
>>521764397
I will consider it
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>>521763267
BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
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>>521764109
>We see Ashley as a demon, not necessarily a tar soul, you need to undergo ascension.
No, what we saw was her tar soul, not her demon form. Remember the tar soul we saw was Ashley's present soul taking Andrew out of the realm.
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>>521764496
>Aaand I ran out of cope, I'll shut up now I guess
That's a good retard, never spew your retarded fanfic here again.
>>521764564
You're still schizoing out over the jannies deleting random stuff while the entire thread was gangbanging you for being retarded?
You could just play the game instead.
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>>521764695
I'm not sure of that, to be honest, it WAS a vision of the future, and you find Ashley's corpse.
I think it was a glimpse of what Ashley would become, especially with how she initially seemed unsure, going ....mine...

Souls lost most of their earthly memories, but I think the Demon Ashley is one whose Andrew left her, and she's been driven to despair and commited to ascneding to demonhood, hoping she'll forget her life.
Except, even as a demon, she only felt the pain from her empty heart, and seeing andrew again triggered her.

Andrew fucked with the vision by using trinker that wasn't his, so there was probably an overlap between Demon Ashley and real Ashley.


...At least, that's how i see it.
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>>521764695
Present day Ashley is a bit more eloquent than just shouting single word sentences like 'MINE' in a super evil fashion, don't you think?
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>>521764972
The whole Ashley corpse thing is surely a vision but it's not a coincidence that Andrew is pulled out of it the second Ashley's tar soul touches him and she literally say she went in to get him out.
If it wasn't her current soul, we'd have seen the current Ashley too since we know she went in too.
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>>521760626
>didn't turn out even worse
There is very little for Ashley to do to be any worse than she already is. The only things that come to mind is stuff like be a pedophile or commit a genocide, stuff she wouldn't do because it doesn't interest her, not because she'd be appalled morally. For God's sake she fucking ate her parents just for fun. Andrew and her are incredibly evil. I think the whole "the soul is how you view yourself" idea is a bit silly, by this logic, entities should be most interested in people like Julia, who's ability to lie is weak and who's moral senses are stronger, and so are more susceptible to becoming self-loathing
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>>521765201
Why are you mad?
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>>521764945
>thread fanfiction
lmao this posting pattern is all too familiar keep at your schizo meltdown we could use another 200 posts to the counter for entertainment
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>>521763921
so where would she appky then?
At a random atelier or an Art school ?
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>>521765180
yeah, but ghosts of Renee and Douglas fled when demon Ashley entered the area, so I think it was current Ashley merging with future demon Ashley for a bit and acting in sync, which is what interrupted the vision.
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>>521765242
im honestly not, i just wanted to post that image
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>>521765173
It was her soul, just like Andrew's grime soul couldn't quite remember how to do anything but his instinct to lie when he was pulled in by Lord Unknown the first time.
So while yes Ashley herself is less animalistic than that, her soul would just mostly remember 'Andrew is mine'.
If it wasn't Ashley's current soul, you now have to answer 'where the fuck was she in the dream vision since she told us she went in and pulled Andrew out?'.
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>>521765264
>You're my imaginary boogeyman, I'm totally not mad and trying to shat up the thread over it now!
Notice how you stopped talking about the game?
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>>521765656
You freak out like this every thread dude, not a good look
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>>521763921
I'd like Ashley's drawing of the (inevitable and true and 100% happening) happy family ending to be higher quality than all her previous drawings, in a way it'll symbolize her growth as a person.
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>>521765409
You don't normally turn into your soul while having a vision. In Andrew's case Lord Unknown specifically explained that Andrew was 'out of his body at the time', which honestly seems like a super important plot point that nobody has picked up on. In all other cases the siblings have their regular walking sprites and full memory and lucidity, even while having a vision.
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>>521765409
If that was the case then why is Andrew's soul not also demonic since he also cannibalized the same amount of people as Ashley?
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>>521763921
>Hello, I'm writing for the 17th time to apply for a job at your company, I guess you must have missed the previous 16 letters, anyway here's a new addition to my portfolio, I just found it at the bottom of the drawer, maybe this will finally convince you of my artistic skills
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>>521765745
>Every thread I fight with someone in this manner
Have you considered that might mean you're the problem? And you're still not talking about the game?
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>>521765409
It's already stated that it's your own morals. Ashley thinks she's bad and she accepts it, therefore tar. Renee and Andrew think they are bad but they cope about it, therefore grime.
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>>521765905
>You don't normally turn into your soul while having a vision
Yeah but it wasn't a normal vision for Ashley, she went inside Andrew's pre-existing vision to pull him out.
>>521765931
Because the state of your soul isn't related to your actions? Ashley's tar soul was there back in chapter 1 and seemingly before they even ate the guy.
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>>521766013
You've fought with like 6 people like this yesterday and you're fighting 2 people now, while crying out that everyone is actually dogpiling the person you're fighting when you're the only one responding to posts in mass replies and either deleting your posts or by your own admission everyone is reporting your posts to get them deleted because you're fucking retarded.
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>>521765982
The cupcake being the best-drawn thing in this drawing cuts deep
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no way this story gets an actual happy ending, right?
i mean even if both andrew and anshley unfuck their relationship it's either going to be a morally good tragic ending or a "good" ending where two horrible people get to have a decent life
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>>521766272
>More babble coping about being lynched last thread
>I'm totally not alone right now, that's why I'm having an impotent tantrum right now. Being right about the game is retarded
All this could have been avoided if you just played the game so you could talk about it instead of crying like this because someone pointed out your fanfic is shitty like every thread.
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>>521766104
> Renee and Andrew think they are bad but they cope about it, therefore grime
>Realize this means Renee has some level of guilt for all her shitty actions, minimal as it might be
>Mfw Douglas feels nothing at all for leaving his kids to die
Was he the biggest monster all along?
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>>521766257
Andrew's notes say that for a soul to become demonic, they need to cannibalize souls and that Ashley eating people could also make her a demon. If Ashley was already turning into a demon, then Andrew would be too
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>>521766417
In reality? Probably not by the standards of normal acceptable morality when Nemlei herself has pointed out that getting shot up by cops is the good end. My bet is on getting all stars from both routes and seeing both sides of their character development, unlocking the vision that shows the fabled incest family ending that they can't otherwise achieve in the story by any realistic measure.
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>>521765242
NTA but trying to backseat jannie is cringe and annoying.
>>521765312
That could be it too, good point. Guess we'll know once decay part 2 releases.
>>521766626
Andrew could just be wrong about stuff.
Also Ashley ate corpses, not souls, Andrew was just guessing that her instinct telling them to 'eat them to gain their strength' might just be her misapplying that demon logic of eating souls.
And I don't see how it's connected to what we're talking about.
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>>521766603
>doubling down on no u
So you just gave up?
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>>521765182
>commit a genocide
she already kills one person per day
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>>521750621 (OP)
Alright… so basically…

Ashley and Andrew’s problems are that they were neglected by their parents completely. Ashley hyper attachers to Andrew because she feels he’s the only who’s with her, so she feels extreme envy of those who try to take up his Tim and attention, like Nina.
Andrew tries to be a big brother and also a father to Ashley and because Ashley is hyper needy he lets Nina remain stuck in the warehouse. After Nina’s death he feels that Ashley is the only person who somewhat understands him, and is thus incapable of forming bonds with others, Ashley also entirely latches on to Andrew because of the lack of parental figures.

Ashley is indeed horny for Andrew but less so than Andrew who is also horny for Ashley.

Their main problem is their extreme codependency. Is this all right? Andrew doesn’t even register other people outside Ashley because of the feeling that Ashley is the only one who understands him due to the Nina incident. He killed a kid in the campsite and didn’t feel any remorse, and can’t even remember his friends name.
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>>521754229
Look at this child
Back in my day we used our mom's lingerie catalogs, call girls advertisement glued to phone booths or scrambled late night tv channels.
Any kid how got their hands on a porn mah throw into the trash would reign like a king for weeks.
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Andrew needs to be the one to pursue Ashley or they will never be happy together
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>>521766929
>Making me sad is giving up, stop pointing out my no us!
Notice how you're still not talking about the game unlike everyone else? Because you're mad about being wrong after not playing the game?
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>>521767089
meds
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>>521767028
cringe
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>>521767089
So... you're not talking about the game either, schizo.
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>>521767107
Why
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>>521767107
No, it's a completely correct take.
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>>521766257
If we go by the shared vision in burial, the extra person is just there, spectating. Like how Andrew was fully aware of everything that had transpired despite not being present.

My interpretation is that Ashley similarly pulled Andrew out of the dream without entering it herself. However, she did see all that was happening inside the vision. Meanwhile, Andrew saw a vision of future Ashley's soul grabbing him. This is similar to how Ashley had a vision of future Andrew killing her in decay.
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>>521767212
i reply to posts based on my gut feeling
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>>521767104
>>521767139
>I refuse to talk about the game, it hurts to much! No u
That was pretty obvious.
I am talking about the game, I'm also just mocking your tantrum.
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>>521766417
>a "good" ending where two horrible people get to have a decent life
Well, if that's not a good ending for you, then I guess the story won't have a good ending. I think we can count on a bittersweet Nemlei classic, though.
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>>521767320
>tantrum
You're literally throwing the biggest tantrum in the thread, lmao.
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>>521766845
Her demon thing isn't her current soul. If it has anything to do with being a cannibal, Andrew's soul would also be demonic and his isn't. Ashley's demon soul was just part of the vision of the future Andrew was seeing
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>>521767320
>tears rolling down his face
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>>521767426
>No u
This is what you're left with when you don't play the game. So sad.
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>>521767564
You're this mad because somebody said Julia started the rumors (she did)
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>>521767564
if you played the game instead of speedwatching youtubers you might actually contribute to discussion instead of people discussing how you're wrong while you decipher which group of anons to mass reply to next
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>>521767518
Her tar soul is very much her current soul.
> If it has anything to do with being a cannibal
I never said anything about it being related to being a cannibal, she had her tar soul BEFORE any cannibalism.
>Ashley's demon soul was just part of the vision of the future Andrew was seeing
Seems a bit big that he got pulled out right when it touched him like Ashley was saying she was doing.
>>521767267
>If we go by the shared vision in burial
That wasn't a shared vision tho, it was Ashley forcefully entering a pre-existing vision.
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>>521767341
If he didn’t give such mixed signals, she wouldn’t be so confused
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>>521759158
That Stand design is so sick with the briars with the red flowers on them and the drama masks because Andrew's a poetry sap.
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>>521767652
havent really read any post of this shitshow but Julia is innocent
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Julia seems like she listens to smiths
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>>521759158
Is that supposed to be Lord Unknown in the back? Is he Andrew's stand?
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>>521767652
>>521767736
>No u, I won't talk about the game
I'm not participating in your cringe character-fagging, no thanks.
You never played the game, you said dumb shit, got corrected and now you're mad. Should have played the game.
>group
How does it feel to be THAT alone?
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>>521768065
She listens to the most sterile christian rock.
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>>521767937
>she wouldn’t be so confused
she knows theyre in love but she doesnt know how to love someone like an adult and Andrew is in complete denial
hence insanity
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>>521768138
noooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>521767923
If tar souls are supposed to look like that, then why is she already bigger and scarier than the entity? She hasn't turned into a demon yet
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>>521768065
this, but also alanis morissette
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>>521768065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhU_DEM-7Yc [Embed]
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>>521768076
LU Is female. Surely Nemlei wouldn't put demon yaoi in this work.
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>>521766991
Pretty much
>After Nina’s death he feels that Ashley is the only person who somewhat understands him, and is thus incapable of forming bonds with others
It's not really proven but I'm fairly sure Andrew is a sociopath, and it's not any particular event that made him that way, it's just how he was born. He simply does not care about anyone, except for Ashley. The Nina event certainly bound them together, but either way I don't think Andrew would ever really form bonds with other people, he only ever cared about Ashley.
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>>521768276
I think ??? is some kind of failed ascension, which is why he's so small and you can find his body in his realm, unlike Lord Unknown who was already big and scary when Andrew was a kid.
Tar Souls ascending probably make for elite demons or some shit;
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>>521768095
Just think, this started because you spouted a dumb theory based on bad faith when even the game doesn't agree with you, because you refuse to play it to it's fullest, and blame others.
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what are the consequences of this game for society?
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>>521768275
Creed is KINO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnkuBUAwfe0 [Embed]
>>521768065
Nah, but Renee and Douglas probably did
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>>521759105
Don't let them get to you anon.
Liking girly things don't make you a woman, who cares if you dream about Andrew choking you and using your thighs as an ashtray.
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>>521768378
not to be judgemental here but this shit is kind of ass my man
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>>521766617
Well, the most evil one overall is Andrew.
He gaslights Julia, and kills 9 people.
After him, we have Ashley, who accidentally killed her chilhood bully and strings Andrew onto doing omre kils, some of which are mutual.
Then, we have Douglas, who usually makes a morally dubious decision like pretending they don't know their kids killed Nina and he is one who chooses to accept the deal to sell them out.
Lastly, we have Renee, who goes along with her husband's shitty decisions, and is a terible parent.

That said, in Andy and Shots and such, Ashley becomes the most evil as she becomes a serial killer and likely eclipses Andrew's kill count..
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>>521768473
>what are the consequences of this game for society?
Mass sisterfucking, the way God intended.
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>>521767397
I think we can probably expect an ending that will satisfy calg. I’m thinking something in the vein of ngn’s ending.
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>>521768473
this is obviously not real siblings
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>>521768448
>The game doesn't agree with you despite saying exactly what you said
>The game's direct text is a theory
>This all started because someone said my Julia theory was dumb yesterday and I never recovered
>Others (lone tantruming retards)
>Still 0 mention of the game
It's pretty clear you're retarded.
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>>521768473
I wish they were real siblings.
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Don't bother engaging he'll go all day saying the same shit.
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>>521768569
>Renee is the least evil of the family
Please get your brain tumors checked
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>>521767923
>That wasn't a shared vision tho, it was Ashley forcefully entering a pre-existing vision
Well, this doesn't explain why her soul would need to physically leave her body in order to do so. I admit that you're not necessarily wrong though. Nemlei likely intended to keep this open to speculation until ch4.
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>>521768275
>>521768487
Also 311 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjfT2joaJxs [Embed]
>>521768792
Not him but it's definitely between her and Doug
And Andrew is 100% the most evil one
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>>521768620
>>521768720
Based
>>521768650
Cringe
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>>521644375 →
>>521644097 →
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I enjoyed the fanfic Anon, it was an engaging read all in all.
Keep it up!
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>>521768792
The Grandma is the least evil right now, if she counts
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>>521768487
yeah, man they killed Renee and Douglas way too early i would like to see more of them, especially some kind of a flashback when they were yound
andrew and ashley travelling back in time and accidentally meeting their parents route when??
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Honestly this is the most heartbreaking part of the story, this right here.
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>>521769008
We do have those visions for that, they're mostly about Renee and Doug
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>>521769008
Prequel R&D spin off after coffin and before the Julia dating simulator

Trust the Nemlei plan
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>>521768837
>Well, this doesn't explain why her soul would need to physically leave her body in order to do so.
I just assume it's a side effect of doing stuff improperly like how Andrew had no clue what he was doing with Lord Unknow the first time.
>I admit that you're not necessarily wrong though
Of course I'm not saying it HAS to be that but it just seem to be the most likely option to me.
Especially since the game went out of it's way to never show Ashley's soul yet.
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>>521769086
Nemlei's depiction of bad parenting was too good
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>>521763809
Political cartoonist is the job shes most qualified for
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>>521768913
I liked it too.
>>521769126
>No incest
>Only bad ends
Honestly less interesting by default.
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>>521769008
I just need a single scene of Ashley finding a way to talk to their souls and glost over them
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>>521761151
We need an update to that pic
One with Andy on the ground trying to hold onto Leyley's leash with no one holding his while Mom is telling him to stop causing trouble and get up from the ground already.
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>>521768673
Julia theory is someone else and obviously a troll like you.
>Siblings already have an oddly close relationship
>Ashley bullied by classmates
>Ashley has no social awareness and no boundaries so she's prone to saying something dumb
>Ashley bullied heavily by Rebecca since childhood and Ashley physically attacked her over it at one point
>Rebecca is stated as probably the source of the rumors after Andrew overhears girls talking about Rebecca telling everyone
None of that matters to you because you watched someone's VOD of speedrun at 1.5x speed.
>You see FriendB who was just dumped in the shittiest way possible said it was Ashley spreading the rumors because he heard it from girls who were already spreading the rumors that they probably got secondhand themselves
>You see Ashley is actually a Tzeentchian level schemer and, when she had everything she already wanted, decided to sabotage the social life and future prospects he didn't have, so that he would attach to her like he already is!
Please play the game.
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Since we're talking about Ashley's artistic talent: Am I the only one who noticed the 302 is the only character / girl in the game that shares Ashley's doodling hobby? Do you think it has any specific meaning?
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I hope we see more teen A&L. It's charming seeing more sincere, less cynical versions of themselves.
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Will Andrew ever tickle, gently suck, and nibble on Ashley's awesome fat tits in that order?
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>>521769501
Friend B is not Douchebag.
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>>521765982
The most horrible part is that the drawing is better than anything I could do.
That cupcake by itself brings to shame any piece of art I have ever done during my student days.
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>>521769523
I think that we'll get a lot more from Ashley's perspective, it seems most of her current emotional state stems from that period of her life.
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>>521769516
Lady in 302 was her cosmic arch-nemesis, Ashley had to kill her to inherit the ultimate artistic talent.

However, Andrew killed her before Ashley could, so now their eternal feud is unresolved.
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>>521768865
Andrew and Ashley's crime spree was entirely caused by Renee selling them and them getting hunted by the government/ big soda. They wouldn't be where they are now if it wasn't forced on them

Douglas is stated by the game itself to have a kind soul. He's happy to see his kids even after they sacrificed him to a demon and they clearly respect him

Renee planned to kill Grandpa, let her sister die, abused both her children, sold them to organ harvesters and manipulates people for money. Renee is the most evil person in the family. Douglas is the least. This is just a fact
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>>521769627
Yeah I make mistakes like that because of Dyslexia.
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>>521768076
The artist said they were commissioned to design an Andrew Stand
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Andys life was hell until he realized he could get Leyley to go to sleep by rubbing her kitty until she passes out
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>>521769617
you mean her second best feature? of course
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>>521769501
>It's not me despite bringing up the Julia thing seething!
>You're a troll despite me still responding!
You don't even believe your own bullshit.
>Siblings already have an oddly close relationship
Yes, just like they did before and after the Nina thing and during most of the game, doesn't stop Ashley from constantly distrusting Andrew's commitment and trying to get him to have NO other option. Play the game, holy shit.
>None of my schizo nonsense matters!
Good job noticing. Rebecca is a non-character, she isn't gonna be the lynchpin of Andrew and Ashley's relationship turning a huge turn when we've been told it's Ashley's fault in a way that fit perfectly with her flaws and how she keep screwing up the relationship just before we see Andrew's own big screw up.
>Friend B
Holy shit you GENUINELY didn't play the game
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>>521769732
>literally dindu nuffing socioeconomic factors andrew and ashley
kek
>>521769630
I also couldn't even draw a circle when i was younger, but you can learn how to draw
I thought it was impossible without talent myself
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Stop fucking responding to mental illness he'll keep freaking out ALL thread.
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>521769870
3/10 weak effort please retry
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>>521769145
Lord Unknown pulling Andrew's soul out of his body on purpose to get up to something shady in the meanwhile is my pet theory so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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>>521769360
Ashley being able to have a moment with her parents in some kind of moment of weakness would be pretty cool, especially if both Renee and Douglas would act kind of more "parent-like" now that they are dead and all and don't have to care about fucking bills and money and all that and will actually show that they love her
that moment in a flashback when Ashley cries because she knows she is a bad person but 10x basically and with her parents instead of Andrew
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>>521770000
>Please give me a redo
Lol, no. Play the game
>Friend B
Talk about speedwatching on youtube.
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>>521765982
This actually does show that Ashley can draw, that cupcake looks pretty nice.
I feel like her artistic skills do reflect her mental state.
Maybe a good ending for them will be drawn in higher quality, showing her growth as a person and an artist?
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>>521769932
HHHMMMMMM
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wait when did renee killed her sister?
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2/10
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>>521769501
>Ashley bullied by classmates
In Burial, the classmates portrait shows Julia and Nina. Unless Nina came back from the grave to ruin Ashley's reputation, that's just more proof it's Julia
>Rebecca is stated as probably the source of the rumors
Andrew himself said when Ashley told him about feeling pressured to get a boyfriend, it didn't sound malicious. Meaning that it would be from someone Ashley considers a friend and not an obvious bully like Rebecca
>FriendB
Retard. Anyways it was Julia, see you next update when it's confirmed
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>>521769617
you call this fat and awesome?
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>>521770215
She's only morally implicated in her death because she spitefully denied to give her sister a kidney transplant.
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>>521770215
She refused the kidney transplant when her mother called. Apparently, at least according to Renee, she was a fat fuck.
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>>521770252
>Not daring to reply
That's right, retard, keep your mouth shut.
>>521770341
You too.
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>>521770215
She only "killed" her indirectly. Connie died of kidney failure, the mom had previously asked Renee to transplant a kidney for Connie which Renee refused to do.
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>>521770368
The artwork is pretty inconsistent for all characters desu. There's one scene where Andrew has an absolute gigachad face that's unlike any of the other stuff. But yeah they're pretty awesome.
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>>521770440
Actually her sister, Connie, died because of Toxisoda's predecessor, she's had severe organ failure.
I don't think Renee would've been able to help her even if she wanted to.
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>>521770368
>Fat
Not really
>Awesome
HELL YEAH!
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>>521770215
nta but she didn't kill her directly.
The sister needed some sort of organ transplant and Renee said fuck no out of spite.
In usual Renee fashion she victim blames her sister for dying
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>>521770341
please stop trying to insult Julia and her innocence
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>>521770448
Julia started the rumors, the sooner you accept this the better. You'd know this if you played the game instead of watching some streamer play it.
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>>521770591
Man, your bait is even shittier than before
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>>521769937
Andrew and Ashley before getting sold were just trying to graduate university and find a job. Then after, they're forced to cannibalize and kill because the government already considers them to be dead. Renee completely ruined the chances of them having a relatively simple life
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>>521770660
>bait
>waahhhhh this theory is implausible compared to my equally tenuous theory waaaahhhhh
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>>521770702
Yeah, Ashley probably would've just endlessly mooched off Andrew, even if he found a place with Julia.
She wouldn't have left Andrew and Andrew wouldn't have abandoned her.
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I can't tell whos worse. Schizo mass replier or the demon that thinks hopefully bait that Julia is actually evil.
I guess the femcel is bad too.
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>>521770440
>she was a fat fuck
And people say Renee is evil
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>>521770490
Which face is the gigachad one?
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>>521770702
>Andrew and Ashley before getting sold were just trying to graduate university and find a job
Except for that murder they did as kids. Always figured that Ashley would get Julia eventually.
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>>521770341
like the other anon said, stop insulting Julia and her innocence you foul demon
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>>521770972
Ashley seems more than happy to just forget about Julia and move on with Andrew.
She did consider Julia a friend, and Nina bullied her, it's a bit of a different type of hatred she feels towards each of them
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>>521770972
Still not murder, it was manslaughter. Depending on how old they were, they wouldn't have even be charged for it
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>>521769617
Yes, yes, and definitely yes
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>>521771094
>Ashley seems more than happy to just forget about Julia and move on with Andrew.
second
once Andrew stops jerking her around and tells her his feelings shell calm down about Julia
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>>521770490
>The artwork is pretty inconsistent for all characters desu
this is true however while they might be awesome they are not fat
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>>521771257
They are fat for her size of being a 4'9 gremlin
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Andy and Leyley have a right to defend themselves
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>>521753065
Yeah but for Europeans it's even harder as 180cm is acceptable, 185cm is good and 190cm is tall.
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>>521771257
Smaller than advertised doesn't mean small. She still has the biggest tits of all the female characters in the game
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>>521771337
B cups, which is already respectable and may look even bigger since she's malnourished
But Julia is the owner of legit fat awesome tits
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>>521771490
>b cups
Do you not know how bras work? A smaller frame relative to the breast size results in a larger cup.
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If Nemlei were to draw Ashley naked, what color would her nipples be? As far as I'm aware, one would usually make the nipples match the lips (or was it the nails?), but I'm not really sure how Nemlei would do it since she doesn't color in the lips or nails usually. I suppose this question also works as "what color would she use to differentiate between the tip and shaft for Andrew"?
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Julia starting rumors doesn't make a lot of sense in the overall story des
She is supposed to be the good route, the normal one, the one that would make Andrew genuinely happy and get away from all the shitshow that is his family, right?
If she did start rumors then the story gets evem more bleak
>Your family doesn't care about you
>Your batshit insane evil sister has to be cared for
>Almost everyone in school is a bad person, every girl that has hots for you is a scheming cunt
Suicide fuel
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>>521771483
>She still has the biggest tits of all the female characters in the game
debunked, BJ POV Julia has the biggest tits in the game
>>521771550
>Do you not know how bras work?
not really, but i did learned how to close them
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>>521771490
>Julia is the owner of legit fat awesome tits
They're mediocre pancakes with nipples that face the floor.
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Somebody help me out here. I was exploring all the different shower scenes in S&S and clicking on random parts of the apartment I'm pretty sure I stumbled upon something about "making it look like an accident." I made a mental note to look into it more and now I can't fucking find it. Does anyone remember seeing a message like that?
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It's hard being a Julialover in a world of ironic floozyposters
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You don't understand. Ashley NEEEEDS to have big tits it's important for the plot I swear please please Nemlei don't do this to me
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>>521771563
>She is supposed to be the good route, the normal one, the one that would make Andrew genuinely happy
Do Juliafags really...?
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>>521771749
Ashley has big tits.
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>>521771825
come on dude
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>>521771563
Yeah, this shit is too forced. Julia is not le keikaku master
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>>521770215
its called Social Murder
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>>521771094
>Ashley seems more than happy to just forget about Julia and move on with Andrew.
Yeah. But before everything that happened, I think its clear that was never going to happen. If Julia didn't eventually break up with Andy, then I'm certain she would have absolutely killed her. I'm also expecting a route in Burial where they kill Julia, I'm not sure how I feel about this prospect, Julia is sweet and deserves happiness.
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>>521771825
No, Julia is over Andrew and thats a good thing
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>>521771738
When Andrew is really drunk after seeing Julia he acts why Ashley wont drink with him cause he wants them to have sex by accident
is that it?
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Ashley is the chairwoman of the itty bitty titry committee
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>>521771912
>Social Murder
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>>521772070
You wanna "titry" that again, Ricky Retardo?
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>>521771563
>She is supposed to be the good route
The game already established that she wasn't friends with Ashley because she liked her but because she wanted to fuck Andrew. Andrew is the one who perceives her as victim to their bullshit and he sees her as his chance to be normal.

We still haven't got a flashback from Ashley's point of view about Julia and what little we do get in Burial proves that she didn't liked Ashley all that much either. There are good people in Andrew's life like Friend B and Grandma, he just doesn't care about them much
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This is what I'm saying about the artwork being inconsistent on her tit size, because on this panel her tits are fucking MASSIVE.
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Ashley is the chairwoman of the itty bitty titty committee
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>>521771563
>the one that would make Andrew genuinely happy
Andrew talks at length about how he never felt anything for Julia, and the only time he ever really feels anything is when he's with Ashley.
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>>521772068
No, but I saw that too. I'm pretty sure it was just a single throwaway line after clicking on something. Or maybe I'm hallucinating from Coffin overdose.
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>>521772282
I'd like to see YOU draw her boobs, tough guy
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>trying this hard to paint Julia as evil since she never did anything wrong
Even ''cheating on Ashley'' was Andrews fault
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>>521772363
That's not really a criticism, necessarily, but me saying that Ashley's tits are pretty consistently hefty with a few notable outliers.
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>>521772092
Botan!
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>>521772323
yeah, that's after years of him having to cater to her every whim including killing an innocent girl
i swear Ashleyfags go full fucking retard when it comes to the discussion of their relationship in any kind of serious way
i like both of the characters in a way but fucking hell it's insane to argue that Julia is worse than Ashley as a partner for Andrew
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>>521771563
Come on man Julia was never the good route. She was always the "Andrew hates himself" answer. Actually the more I think about it the more you can circle his relationship with Julia back around to how he hates himself.
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>>521772851
>Ashleyfags
You're such a fucking retard that it's causing me physical pain. Andrew CAN'T be with anyone besides Ashley, it's kind of a recurring theme! He is obsessed with her, lusts after her, is madly in love with her, hates her, refuses to live without her. It's not a matter of Julia being a better person, she outright doesn't work for Andrew, he doesn't care about her, she will ALWAYS come second because of his sister complex.
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>>521770852
>I can't tell whos worse.
You, the retard inventing random thread personalities
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>>521772307
Stop posting the anti-delphic propaganda version
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>>521772851
I think you need to reformat that or that you replied to the wrong post. Or got confused and replied to 3 people at the same time?
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>>521773185
>peter peter pumpkin eater
>Ashley is wearing a pumpkin shirt
I like it.
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>>521771960
Well, if Julia stayed in Andrew's life, she would've driven Julia to suicide, yeah, but she doesn't seem tobe interested in tormenting her if she's out of the picture.
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>>521773187
yeah sry should've just made a proper post
teh guy above is a fucking faggot i don't want to reply to him though, (You)s are expensive nowadays
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>>521772851
>yeah, that's after years of him having to cater to her every whim
I'm not sure what you're trying to say desu. Because it sounds like you're saying that if the siblings never formed a toxic, codependent relationship then Julia would be the "happy" ending. And you'd be right. But you also wouldn't have much of a story.

As it stands, he feels nothing for Julia. But he also can't be happy with Ashley. It's quite sad really, I doubt there's going to be a happy ending for either of them.
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Julia must go
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i am literally arguing for and against all of your points retards this shit is so fun you should try that
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>>521772851
He didn't have to kill Nina. Leyley is a stupid 5 yo, he could've snuck out and freed her earlier
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>>521773636
But so am I
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>>521772282
Ashley has bigger boobs than Julia. Juliafags are just really uppity about their piggy
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>>521773676
that's pretty cool, i like you anon
we need more people like you here
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>>521773636
please directly reply to him so I can auto hide your retarded argument
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>>521773159
You're right about Julia causing melties for some reason, but Andrew would never be happy with anyone that isnt Ashley. She's the only one that truly understands him and all that

It's better for Andrew and especially for Julia if they're not together. I also think Ashley is too good for the faggot Andrew is but oh wll
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>>521773825
My theory is it's the polka dot bra that makes them look awesome and that's why she insists on having it with her at all times.
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>>521773426
Into my arms
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>>521773989
She does say it's her favorite bra.
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>>521773953
No
I'm an agent of chaos you see
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>>521773989
Your theory is fucking stupid.
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>>521773980
>I also think Ashley is too good for the faggot Andrew is but oh wll
Objectively correct opinion.
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>>521772851
>Julia is better for Andrew than Ashley

The same Andrew that started to hate Julia and fantasized about kicking her teeth in because even the sex with her was shit? Ashley is the only person that could ever actually comfort him and understand him. Julia was just a shitty attempt at substituting out Ashley
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Andrew forced Ashley to drink a quart of milk every day
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>>521774107
NTA but she looks pretty flat there
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>>521773426
Who must go?
>>521773825
Cope. Julia has fat udders.
And i'm not even saying Ashley has bad tits either, just smaller
>>521773989
It's a push-up bra
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>>521774212
You being dumb and blind is not my problem.
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>>521773980
cringe
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>>521774303
And you being in denial is not my problem.
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>>521758821
half of the fandom would commit suicide immediately if Nelmei announced they weren't actually blood related
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>>521774606
Ashley is Andrew's tulpa, she never existed.
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>>521774379
I don't know what to tell you, you can clearly see from the outline of her body the curvature of her breasts (and butt), which immediately debunks the idea that her bra is doing all of the work. You can clearly see in >>521772282 that her tits are clearly large, and if you think THAT is the bra doing it all then you don't understand how bras work, pushup, padded, or otherwise.
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>>521773424
I think more realistically under the best circumstances of good parents and no codependency, Julia wouldn't even be involved in the story. She's only there now because Andrew asked her to be Ashley's friend when they were kids so she was always tangentially related to him through Ashley. There's also no telling how different her life would be without Nina's death. How Andrew would feel about other people if it was built in sociopathy and Ashley just connected to him because of circumstance, or if he'd be a completely different person. No telling with Ashley but she'd probably be a tomboy through and through and not have many girl friends.

Just way too many variables to give a blanket statement about what could have been.
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So. I just got Splat ending, does anyone have a link with saved files? i really don't want to replay everything
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>>521769168
i hate how that actually would work for her
She be able to take the piss out of any politician equally
But this does raise the question what are her political opinions?
Does she care about anything besides maybe legalising Incest and Abortion?
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>>521757127
>>521757329
>>521759486
wait the Burial route is supposed to have even more incest?
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would ashley actually kill andrew if he started dating julia again?
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>>521774874
Maybe, maybe not. The only thing we can say with a fair degree of certainty is that 3b will be more focused on Ashley's perspective.
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>>521773989
Her titties are as big as ever when she doesn't have her polka dot bra
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>>521774874
We don't know anything about it except that there is a vision in Burial-Questionable with explicit incest. Nemlei is trying to keep us in the dark
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>>521774874
The new retcons makes it blurry
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>>521774910
No. She'd kill Julia.
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>>521774874
Decay and Burial have been more or less revealed to be about each sibling's character arch. Decay is Andrew, Burial appears to be Ashley. The "incest" route of Burial appears to be Ashley failing character development, like Decays S&S route. The other path appears to be positive character development and is probably more "wholesome" incestuous with context from Decay.
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>>521774910
Olive Branches show that she does have her limits, so maybe.
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>>521774910
Ashley wouldn't even kill Andrew if he was trying to kill her so no. She'd just kill Julia instead
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>>521775174
>"wholesome"
drop the quotes, there's nothing more wholesome than sweet sibling cuddles, kisses, and hot sweaty bareback babymaking bed-breaking neighbor-waking earth-shaking sex.
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>>521775174
Could be that Part 4 of Decay is about Ashley and Burial is something totally different, we just don't know.
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>>521773426
Go right in the demon's mouth
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>>521775321
Unless chapter4 decay really skims over Andrew addressing his problems with a single yes/no with Lord Unknown, I don't know about it being focused on Ashley. Plus Nemlei referred to it as "The moral Decay of Andrew Graves"
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imagine the number of clarifications she'll be making in the next devlog
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>>521774671
>You can clearly see in >>521772282 that her tits are clearly large
not him but see >>521770368
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>>521360779 →
Now is the time for questions for the young beauty... but it seems she provides almost no good answers. She doesn't know her name, where she came from, what she was doing and how she got trapped. Even the villagers Aliman asked provided no answers. No one across the whole river Bistritz knew her. But that means he can make her truly his. He starts by naming her Ileana.
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>>521767341
Is it because Andrew is a tsundere or because Ashley is too mentally ill?
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>>521775460
Said moral decay happens in dead end, as he first betrays his moral standard of being Ashley's protector, by trying to murder, and then progressively goes more insane and depraved.


Nemlei also described it as, while unpleasant, true CHAOS AND MAYHEM only being attainable if they directly confront the underlying decay, which they're doing in Cliffhanger.
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>>521775608
The image that lines up with almost none of the other artworks in the game. Hmmm.
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>>521775174
'Decay' is about addressing the underlying decay of the siblings relationship. Idk what 'Burial' could stand for. Burying their feelings, burying their past?
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>>521775626
this Carpathian epic has truly grown on me, anon
im interested to see where you're going with this
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>>521775724
Burial means burying problems and pretending everything is fine will only lead to problems, which is what Ashley is doing in questionable.

in Sane, she's trying to fix their relationship by coming to respect Andrew and giving him freedom and space.
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>>521775702
they also look smaller in this
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>>521775626
Aliman's whole demeanor changed along with her coming. He almost never came out of his house anymore, no one ever knew about what he was doing inside all day, and he didn't even come to church anymore! The gall of him!

Every single day was dedicated to her. God didn't matter, the community didn't matter, nothing mattered besides Ileana. He seems to have found his perfect wife, and nothing will make them come apart!

(WRITERS NOTE: ileana is a magical fairy in the folklore of the region, he is naming her after a grand fairy princess)
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>>521775724
Decay's "full title" is ostensibly "The Moral Decay of Andrew Graves" depending on how seriously you take this devlog bit, so I imagine Burial would be like "The Burial of 'Leyley' " or something.
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>>521775685
The whole thing is moral decay. It's Andrew clinging to his fake morals that keeps causing his internal strife.
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>>521775957
But not nearly to the same degree.
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>>521775957
Andrew beat her bra padding out of her when he delivered her the big-ass beatdown
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This thread vexes me, not really sure what is even being discussed
>>521773992
based
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>>521775854
So 'Decay' was the good route all along...
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>>521775854
Ashley says it's good that Andrew is back to normal in Sane. She's not fixing anything in Sane, she's keeping things just like it was before. Burial means to bury Leyley like how Andrew buried Andy in the apartment
>But Nemlei said
She was just making an excuse as to why she was developing decay first. She herself said that the routes aren't supposed to be either good or bad
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>>521776059
The mental image of him like, uppercutting her tit and the padding just flying out is way too comical for how gut-wrenching that scene is lmao
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>>521775997
Coffin of Andy and Leyley -> Burial of Andy and Leyley
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>>521776007
These are Nemlei's own words on how she sees what these titles mean.
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>>521775982
Except something did.. The mother of the girl came to pick her up. The whole time, Aliman stood frozen, traumatized. He couldn't move an inch because he believed he could just spend the rest of his days with his love. In this time of struggle, only a single thought permeated throughout his mind: This is all because of the Huchen! He met Ileana because of it! If he caught it I'll surely get her back!
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>>521775957
Not really. Her boobs are still giant if you compare them to the rest of her torso
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>>521774874
mayhaps
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>>521776318
not change what me saided
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>>521775997
that gag feels off to me for some reason
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>>521776145
Well, Nemlei says neither Decay nor Burial are good or bad routes, just different ways in which the story ends.
It's just that Decay is Andrew-centric and he ends episode 2 reoslved to change things, one way or another.

Burial ends with Ashley in the leader's seat, as she always wanted, but she's at a loss on how to move forward, as Andrew no longer plays into their banter, and acts aloof.
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>>521776318
>"Burying one's problems and pretending everything is hunky-dory doesn't solve anything"
combine this with the retcons for Burial and I have no idea how people are still in denial about the sex vision being from a bad end
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>>521776539
>Burial ends with Ashley in the leader's seat, as she always wanted, but she's at a loss on how to move forward, as Andrew no longer plays into their banter, and acts aloof.
Burial (sex) ends with Andrew hugging Ashley tho
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>>521776504
because it's millennial "humor"
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>>521773185
Cute
>>521771257
They can be less fat than advertised and still fat
>>521774910
No but she'd kill Julia
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>>521776650
Yeah, it does have a ''Well, THAT just happened'' vibe to it
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>>521776626
It's not a bad end if it has sibling sex.
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>>521776770
so S&S was a good ending to you?
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>>521775140
the basement change completly changes the Burial route
Trusting Andrew was Ashleys one big step up that shows her maturing from leyley and impulsive unreasonable brat that only wants Andy to control to Ashley and adult capable of trusting her brother who wont suspect him of cheating on her with an radnom person like 302 lady and such
Ashley no longer trusting him completly changes that
I hope Nemlei changes back and fixes that before burial releases
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>>521776810
yes
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>>521776626
Them fucking like bunnies until the end of time would be considered a bad ending for some
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>>521776650
Millenials, genZ and genA are all unfunny af.
t. zillenial
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>>521776828
>I hope Nemlei changes back and fixes that before burial releases
I doubt it, she changed it now most likely because of the script she's writing
>>521776626
She's even bruised
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>>521776647
They're pretending like everything is fine and even turn tossing the skulls of their parents into a game, despite both Sane and Decay showing us that Ashley still mourns them and wants some kind of closure, she's just pretending like everything is fine and Andrew is playing along because at this point he doesn't care enough to say what he thinks is better, and his soul is accidentally claimed by her.
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>>521776369
He first wanted to know more about the family, but that lead him nowhere: a single old man, about 90 years old, even knew something about them, and he said they're the daughters of Satan! What travesty! what treachery! Lying geezer! She was his perfect Ileana..

And so he had formed a plan in his mind: he will go to the local wizard and ask that he make him able to finally catch the fish! And so he went up the distant hill where the wizard lived. It was a long road, but he was gonna take it

-TO BE CONTINUED-
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>>521776831
>implying you're me
>>521776810
Yes, it was.
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>>521775626
And and leyley and the ...?
What exactly is this?
It kinda looks celtiuc but im not to much of an ancient history expert to get it
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>>521776959
this makes a lot of sense
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>>521776993
it's based on a story called 'The huchen' by vasile voiculescu
read the previous posts from the old threads to get the story
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>>521776839
Mostly Inkyink
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>>521776863
you aren't real
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>>521776959
Andrew got everything he ever wanted in Burial (incest): Ashley and Ashley sex
Burial will heavily focus on Ashley's insecurities imo.
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>>521776828
The change is almost cosmetic, the lines about the trinket were always there (just without Ashley's Awesome Fat Tits) and the trust was always going to be shaky, which is why she eavesdrops on Andrew's conversation with their mom. I do think "trust him" was better, though.
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>>521776959
Ashley says that she doesn't care about their parents but she expected Andrew to. Ashley even points out that Andrew is back to how he was before and that it's a good thing. Sane is not going to be the main focus
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>>521776959
How would Ashley handle Andrew turning into a mindless himbo for her would be interesting to see.
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>>521777207
tldr me?
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>>521777207
>reading books
Cringe
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>>521777253
I don't think Andrew has undergone a character development at all.
He's still deeply embarassed about his attraction to Ashley, so he has resolved fuck all.
Hell, even in Questionable, Andrew STILL has not admitted he loves Ashley or wants her romantically.

I see it more as him fully succumbing to his identity as Ashley's protector and caretaker, he just does whatever she wants, despite his best judgement because he mentally imploded in on himself.
Ashley also claimed his soul, so we don't even know how much of what he says is in Questionable is a reflection of what he'd normally say.
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>>521777417
That's the tl dr
you can't read the 2 sentences ?
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>>521776318
That's interesting, I didn't read the build up to Burial as being "burying ones problems". Ostensibly, it seems to be the opposite. The I'd rather you didn't talk about her like that line, which I think has the strong implication that Andy has finally accepted how he feels about her. And then there's the ending where they're on the bridge just goofing around. There's only a couple of things that make me think that they aren't going to really address their problems
>Having to put the bunny back in the cage means that they will always have the codependent, toxic relationship.
>The appearance of the mark on his had at the end. Given what we know about souls (they only darken based on how the individual views themselves), implies that Andy has finally accepted that he's a piece of shit, and his tar soul has "hatched". I think this means in Burial you'll see a more cold and calculating Andy than previously. As an example of what I'm imagining, consider the scene at the camp site, where Andrew phones Julia and toys with both Ashley and Julia? I think we'll see more of that, I don't really know what that implies for their relationship, but I'd have thought by the end they'd both regress to Andy and LeyLey.
Overall, really looking forward to burial.
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>>521777339
Ashley says so, but her actions clearly say otherwise.
She wants to have an eulogy for them but she pretends like she thinks Andrew would want to.
She also becomes upset if you try feeding Renee to ??? in Decay.
As a demon in a vision, she kept them around in her room.
Leyley puts on a brave face of not giving a shit all the itme, deep down, Ashley is sad and miserable and she wanted Renee to show he loves her, and I think she still does want that.closure
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Fuck it, posting here too because it's a great idea.
>looks like you've doomed yourself. Again. [BAD END]
>seems like your fate was sealed when you locked that innocent little girl in a box
>would you like to reload and try that again?
>[wait, what?]
>[I'm good]
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I have a feeling that Burial is going to be even more fucked up than Decay.
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>>521777530
Andrew admits to not having nightmares anymore in Questionable and still is the one to decide to go back to the motel at the end. He's developed more than Sane route Andrew who still has nightmares
>Ashley claimed his soul
Not confirmed
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>>521776369
KILL THE HAG ALIMAN
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>>521761308
I think he's a bit scrawny, doesn't exactly work out. Doesn't eat crap so he's not pudgy. Naturally good looking face and all that.
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>>521777837
>Not confirmed
she tells ??? Andrew's soul belons to her, and he has the same demonic mark on his hand in questionable as he does in Andy ending where Ashley sould his soul to ???.
>Andrew admits to not having nightmares anymore in Questionable and still is the one to decide to go back to the motel at the end. He's developed more than Sane route Andrew who still has nightmares
He comes up with a plan at Ashley's prompting, not his own, he's basically just acting as her steward at this point, following her whims, just as Andrew, not Andy..
He effectively turns into Douglas.
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>>521777530
Ashley's "Never Say Never" is all Andrew needed to hear to conclude his character development. We know from Decay that Andrew's three distinct character traits are "brother", "murderer" and "lovesick". By having Ashley acknowledge and accept his romantic love for her, he is truly fulfilled.
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>>521777362
She'd be considerably more horny than she already is
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>>521778053
The mark is in both sane and questionable.
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>>521775305
Based
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How much is too much muscle for an irl Andrew?
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>>521778058
I only first saw what happens if you actually say "Never" like two days ago, I had no clue you don't get the cute scene where they throw the skulls because EVERYONE picks "Never say never" lmao
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>>521778147
Pretty much any visible muscle when not flexing. He's a string bean.
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>>521778112
Yeah, true, a bit of a misnomer on my end.
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>>521778147
Any amount. You need to have the physique of an early 2000's emo teen.
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>>521778147
Imagine if Andrew went to gym...
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>>521778147
That is way too much muscle, Andrew is a canonical lanklet to the point Ashley says he's "all skin and bones" when dragging his soulless body in the Shoot route. Basically this >>521778289
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>>521778331
>just kills Ashley
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>>521777724
I don't get it
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>>521778331
>>521778289
>>521778236
>>521778216
>>521778363
So probably something like this?
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>>521776650
Idk, I thought it was funny and in character desu
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>>521778053
The mark shows up in both routes and that mark could just be Lord Unknown's mark on his soul.
>He comes up with a plan at Ashley's prompting
No, he thinks it's a bad idea until he finds that there's an actual sound logic as to why it is a good idea. He isn't just mindlessly going along with everything she says and he's still the one making the decisions. He even still smokes which Ashley very clearly doesn't like
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>>521777724
Would be cute but there's no way to follow it up gameplay wise
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>>521778478
Yes
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>>521778147
This is Andrew's canonical DYEL body
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>>521778478
too much muscle
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>>521778478
Accurate, yes.
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>>521778510
There's a small handful of people who really, really hated that line in this general but pretty much everyone else took zero issue with it.
Andrew's morals are decaying, it's the name of the chapter
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>>521778147
He was starving until recently so he should be all skin and bones.
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>>521778518
It's demonshley's mark.
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How long was the quarantine like two months? Less?
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>>521778384
It's like a butterfly effect kind of thing. The idea is it's the only way to reach a truly good ending, to go way back to the flashback and not stuff the hussy in the box.
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>>521778510
it definitely wasnt in character
>>521778478
too much muscle
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>>521778147
Andrew has a sleeper build. He's shown that he's stronger than he looks like when he kicks down the barricaded door in S&S or him throwing the bookcase when he was a kid
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>>521778373
He already heighmogs Ashley, if he had 50 pounds of muscles added to that he'd fucking obliterate her in a tag scene.
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>>521690908 →
>>521698164 →
HIS MOMMA RAISED HIM RIGHT!
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>>521778657
he became ashley's property. that's why symbol appears again in andy route
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>>521778634
I personally had no issue with that line despite thinking the entire sequence of event was dumb.
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>>521778773
>Andrew just breaks Ashley's spine in the style of Bane vs Batman, leaving her as his crippled sister-wife to continue protecting, but now she can't be such an issue for him
The good ending
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>>521778559
No need to follow it up, it's an ending. You make amends with Nina and you get to watch a slideshow of Andy and Leyley leading an almost happy life with no murder or demons.
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>>521778657
>You will never get tentacle raped by your demon sister
Why live?
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>>521779010
Live is constant pain anon.
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>>521778712
525,600 minutes
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>>521778839
I know it'll never be confirmed, but I hope at least this theory is never officially denied.
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>>521774801
What's Ashley's tax policy?
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>>521778773
>He already heighmogs Ashley
To an almost scary degree going by the scene inside the car. Standing up she's barely be at chest level with him if he stood straight.
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>>521779076
I do not believe for a second the Graves family had a year's worth of food, it couldn't have been more than a month or two
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>>521779179
26 year old Ashley
>>521779197
According to Nemlei Andrew "towers over" her, and she wears heels
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>>521779179
hussies OCs are funny
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>>521779089
Ashley and Andrew's room in the demon realm being a literal copy of Yule and Noelle's is just a big cheeky reference by Nemlei. And the pink and green stars over babby Unknown's crib?

THE NEMLEIVERSE....DOES EXIST!
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>incest comes up in a conversation
>sister visibly winces instantly
It's joever
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>>521775513
How will she explain the retcons
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>>521778712
>>521779205
It was 3 months and the wardens actually brought them food for a while at first.
>>521779289
He towers over her while she's wearing heels and he's lunching over.
This is some height-gap porn level setting honestly.
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>>521779205
I think the guards originally gave them noodles. There's a note you can find that says something like "AB's will no longer be given rations, except in case of emergencies". Which means that they only recently stopped being fed.
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They totally proved their parents wrong, didn't they anons.
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>>521779107
put a jizya tax on all non-delphics
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>>521779425
I'm 6'2 and my sister is 5'4 their height gap is pretty believable
Weirdly enough my sister's daughter is taller than her and she's not even in high school yet
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>>521779308
The artist said she "drew Ashley with [her] features" so it's like a half-hussie OC but not really.
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Will Kit9 sue me if i make a Julia workout shirt
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>>521779519
only if you try to sell it
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>>521779519
no but she will most likely make a character to make fun of you in an upcoming episode
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>>521779501
So she took self inserting to the next level
>>521779573
Thanks K9
>>521779601
I would be flattered
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>>521779519
What's it going to say, "Andrew's Clean-up Crew?"
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>>521779490
>my sister's daughter is taller than her
that better be because she's also your daughter...
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>>521779701
My sister is most certainly not my type. I like girls who looks like they're only alive because they get put in grippies whenever they try something
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>>521779701
>Anon doesn't realize most sisters aren't attracted to their brothers
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>all these people blessed with tiny sisters
My sister's fucking 6'1" this is bullshit I want one I can carry on my shoulder like a small animal.
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>>521779679
There's nothing to clean up, he always used condoms even for blowjobs
Julia is basically a virgin
But to answer your question it wouldn't be anything, just a Julia panel on a black shirt with the sleeves ripped off
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>>521779840
I'm the one with the huge height gap and my sister is older so the dynamic wouldn't work anyway
Would reproduce with your sister though
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>all these people blessed with sisters
as an only child, you can all go fuck yourselves
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>>521779939
>Would reproduce with your sister though
I will sell your kidneys to a Chinese wet market. She's MINE!
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>>521779840
>I want one I can carry on my shoulder like a small animal.
Start working out then, anon.
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>>521779979
If it helps, I'm pretty sure only one anon has fucked his sister, the rest of us don't have sisters that would fuck us
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>>521780072
>I'm pretty sure only one anon has fucked his sister
what
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>>521779826
skill issue
>>521779827
also a skill issue
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>>521780059
>Start working out then, anon.
I do, though it's mostly cardio nowadays. Every time I kidnap my sister to carry her to chores I have to sling her across my back like a sandbag.
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>>521780193
Drunkanon...
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Serious tho, how tall is Andrew and how short is Ashley? Anyone got a screenshot of the car scene so we can compare? Because it made Ashley look like a midget / Andrew look like a giant.
>>521780193
Based
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>>521778712
Because Renee and Douglas were gone, they had double the amount of food they regularly would have in the apartment.

Since Andrew is smart, he probably figured out they were trying to kill them almost immediately and started to ration out the food between him and Ashley

Since they were starving to near death, that would be at least three months without much food

So it was probably around 6 - 8 months depending on how much food they had in the apartment and how well they rationed it
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>>521752296
She'll became a white soul by the end
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KASPLAM
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>>521780163
Er, to be exact, he specifically stated that he's done nothing in bed with his sister that would ever violate state or federal laws on incest
Oh, and I guess there was the Anon whose sister got him drunk to try and take his virginity
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>>521780337
You know that's actually a bad thing in universe for what they've done?
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>>521780294
REEEE

>>521780372
Correct. There's nothing illegal about snuggling in bed with all of your clothes on and, I have to emphasize this: zero contact of genitalia of any sort because that would be bad and wrong and illegal in the state I'm in.
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>>521752296
All the arms are the people she ate most likely.
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>>521753741
>Andrew beat up this precious little creature
My soul hurts...
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>Forgot to call my sister on her birthday because I was too busy obsessing over a sisterfucking game
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>>521780594
>Correct. There's nothing illegal about snuggling in bed with all of your clothes on and, I have to emphasize this: zero contact of genitalia of any sort because that would be bad and wrong and illegal in the state I'm in.
How does one pull this off?
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>>521780710
she slapped him first before that beating
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>>521780830
Literally just don't take your clothes off and then commence snuggling in a horizontally-aligned position, I'm not sure how to make that much simpler.
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>>521780710
I understand your pain anon. How could he ever raise a hand to her?
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>>521780954
No, how do you end up in bed together
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Why were they going on a field trip in the ghetto?
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>>521780840
Getting slapped isn't an excuse to beat someone until they're crying on the floor while desperately trying to get you to stop
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>>521780372
there was also underage looking anon who posted a pick of his fat sister's tits with timestamp below
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>>521781061
It's Eastern Europe it's all ghetto
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It feels really odd how nobody talks about Jane having siscon written all over her.
Nobody is normal in this universe I guess.
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>>521780779
When Andrew said he's only happy when he shows his bad side to Ashley and she makes this face like she doesn't know what's wrong, is that the face he was talking about?
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>>521781061
Another black person in the game
Nemlei has fallen
>>521780779
My sister gave me a happy birthday cart she made herself
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>>521781061
Children love zoos.
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>>521781195
>TCOAAL is just about sisterloving
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>>521781195
That's just your coomer brain she's just a protective sister
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>>521781061
I don't think Carl's apartment was in the ghetto. They may have been kids being walked from the school to the park.
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i hope they get a happy ending in the end
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>>521781195
Protecting your little sister from an abusive relationship is common decency, especially considering how late she got involved. A true siscon would have protected her heart and her hymen.
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>>521781106
you youngsters wouldn't get it
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>>521781195
>It feels really odd how nobody talks about Jane having siscon written all over her.
Because she doesn't. Just because she cares about her sister having a subhuman bf doesn't mean she wants to fuck her sister
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>>521781283
There already is one in the game…
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>>521781283
I think "happy" is limited in this case anon.
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>>521781249
>>521781262
>>521781391
>>521781409
Sure and Ashley is an adorable innocent angel who never did or thought anything wrong in her entire life. LMFAO
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>>521780779
How do you plan to make it up to her?
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>>521781471
for everyone else, yes, but not them
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>>521781195
Retards are just too focused on making her a 'girlboss' when she's a retard who's overbearingness just made Julia even more hesitant to break up with Andrew.
Also they ignore how Andrew won the argument by telling her 'I fucked your sister'.
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>>521780994
I need wholesome incest. Shots was direct damage to my psyche
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>>521781030
I'm going to assume you mean metaphorically. I really don't have any useful advice to give, honestly, I suck with women in general and I don't think people should go out of their way trying to purposefully seduce their sisters because that just sounds like a recipe for disaster and heartbreak.

>>521781195
Jane comes across as a completely reasonable elder sister that knows Andrew for what he is and is trying to protect her far more naïve younger sister from an abusive monster.
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>>521781645
>Ashley is an adorable innocent angel
I mean.... she's adorable and she's too good for Andy.
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>>521775140
>>521776828
Hear me out
What if Burial is the better path and has Ashley learning to trust Andrew, but having the game explicitly allow you to "trust Andrew" is not only too on the nose, but also a bit premature. If she already trusts Andrew implicitly in the basement, it would make her potential arc of learing to trust him, stop treating their rellationship as contractual and "bury"ing LeyLey a bit superfluous. The only "retcon" I have a problem with is her telling Renny about Nina, that makes the interaction with the mom in EP2 a bit odd. Why didn't that old bitch spill the beans to Andrew about Ashley tattling in order to save her ass?
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>>521781754
>I'm going to assume you mean metaphorically.
Did you two not cuddle with your clothes on (and no genitals touching) in bed?
But I get it.
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>>521781779
erm for the last time its andrew
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>>521781680
>>521781283
I would honestly love it if Nemlei added another branch to chapter 2 that ends like this.
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>>521781283
They have to since Shots and Such already exist. You can only have so many endings like that before it get boring.
>>521781831
>Why didn't that old bitch spill the beans to Andrew about Ashley tattling in order to save her ass?
Because she has no idea about the promise or that it would mean anything to Andrew so she was trying to brag about 'having figured it out' when Ashley just told her and she gave no fuck.
It also doesn't give Andrew the opportunity to ask Ashley if she's full of shit about it.
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>>521781932
>Did you two not cuddle with your clothes on (and no genitals touching) in bed?
No that's exactly what happened and absolutely nothing more.
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>>521781831
>Why didn't that old bitch spill the beans to Andrew about Ashley tattling in order to save her ass?
she dismissed it, didn't believe it and forgot about it
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>>521781779
>she's too good for Andy
Both of them are exactly good enough for a bullet to the head, holy fucking pathological levels of delulu. LOL
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>>521782048
>No that's exactly what happened and absolutely nothing more.
Exactly. I was asking how to help someone get over an aversion to physical contact. Nothing more.
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>>521782109
How long until you two get a baby?
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>>521782048
>that's exactly what happened and absolutely nothing more.
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>>521781727
Yeah. S&S was the worst ending imo. At least Deadest of Dead ends had them dying together and they shared a few moments at the end that really felt like their last experience on earth were positive.
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>>521781982
That wouldn't happen since Andrew and Ashley already agreed to get rid of their parents for trying to kill em
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>>521782257
Does this look like the face of a man who would engage in illegal acts of delphic copulation, officer?
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>>521782163
Doug...
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>>521782409
I never understood why people use that portrait as a gotcha, most portraits of royalty look like shit.
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>>521782143
Ashley deserve protection and cuddles. she unironically needs to be shown that she can be loved.
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>>521782378
Ashley being afraid of dying made that ending easily worse than them getting married. That whole route is misery
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>>521782512
I'm making a joke, in this case, but it largely ties into a sort of confirmation bias.
>Habsburgs were fairly inbred
>LOOK LOOK HE HAS A FUNNY FACE INCEST IS BAD AND WRONG!
Not to rehash an old discussion anew, but mathematically a single generation of close-relation incest isn't terribly risky barring KNOWN genetic diseases inherited by both parties.
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>>521781061
Carl's apartment wasn't in a 'ghetto' you dumbass. I doubt Finland had any ghettos in the 90s anyway
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>>521782731
so my bloodline can have a little bit of inbreeding as a treat?
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>>521782853
iirc Finland was in a depression around that time, which is really not any different than usual save that it was, for once, an economic one instead.
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It's actually amazing how openly does the dev call out OPENLY the retards in the audience running on pure cope and delusion, and they still keep going on with their retarded takes like it's absolutely real and anyone being able to fucking read is evil, both here, leddit and xitter.
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>>521776963
I love this, keep it up anon
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>>521782962
NTA but yes
t. grandparents from my fathers side were cousins
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>>521783014
How about you say what you're butthurt about instead of being vague and feminine like a pussy faggot?
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>>521782853
its not in finland tho. How often does that need to get mentioned?
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>>521783014
Nemlei genuinely enjoys shitting on retards on the internet after they doxxed her.
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>>521783014
Specific example? I know the olive branch vision was a pretty big slap on the peepee for some.
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>>521782690
Agreed. She's awful but she also never really had a chance.
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>>521783116
and that's why you're here
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>>521782731
>I'm making a joke
I know, I was just talking in general since you posting the pic reminded me of it.
Also incest actually decreases the chances of genetic diseases appearing.
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>>521783179
That and my growing feelings for my sister caused by this game
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>>521783116
Cousin fucking is not incest
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>>521782731
Marie Antoinette apparently had the hapsburg jaw too, but it was less pronounced than the others. If our heroes do end up having babies they should probably make sure their kids don’t end up Andy and leyley moding
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>>521783137
It's obviously more likely to be based on Finland than on amerimuttland
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>>521782512
>>521782731
They weren't just a bit inbred. They were notoriously deformed from the excessive levels of inbreeding even for European nobility.
The guy on the picture literally baffled the world with how he was able to stay alive despite his ludicrously excessive mutation.
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>>521783303
NTA but first cousins are still incest. Outside of that though, I personally wouldn't count it
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>>521783214
>Also incest actually decreases the chances of genetic diseases appearing.
In very, VERY specific cases. The problem is that the existence of de novo mutations means that continual inbreeding can help solidify a potential genetic disorder, and they're simply too unpredictable to say definitively which would be preferable in a specific circumstance.
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>>521782967
What country is more depressed? Finland or France?
>>521783150
NTA but 'If you wanna fuck your sister, you want to fuck the rest of your family too' was pretty direct.
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>>521783214
>Also incest actually decreases the chances of genetic diseases appearing.
this is not true, if it was incest would be encouraged by evolution when even animals prefer not to fuck their related ones
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>>521782853
Looks like a ghetto to me
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>>521783456
doug reincarnated
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>>521783412
>They were notoriously deformed from the excessive levels of inbreeding even for European nobility.
Literally all their problems and most sick members were from outside the family.
>The guy on the picture literally baffled the world with how he was able to stay alive despite his ludicrously excessive mutation.
Literal medieval creepypasta spread by anti-royalist factions, anon.
They autopsied his corpse after letting him rot for 2 weeks. Do you really think he was living without blood?
Fucking Cleopatra was a thousand time more inbred than him and he was still known as an inteligent well-spoken man who lived a normal life for the most part.
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>>521783456
that Ashley panel looks so weird lmao
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>>521783463
How is France depressing? Even its most depressing regions are not that bad. Brittany is just a better England, Nord is just better Belgium. I guess Paris is dreadful because of tourists and niggers but that's about it.
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>>521783170
Exactly. I want her to be loved so much.
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>>521783456
>Mods, send these niggas' souls to the Wheel of Samsara and have they asses reincarnated, immediately!

>>521783463
>NTA but 'If you wanna fuck your sister, you want to fuck the rest of your family too' was pretty direct.
The problem with Nemlei's callouts is that the intended targets are literally too stupid and too dense to understand they're being insulted.
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>>521783396
where sauna?
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>>521783829
ashley sauna...
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>>521783730
"Needs it" face
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>>521783903
>Ashley walking from the sauna, sweat-slicked with steam rising from her body
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>>521783463
Finland by far. It's just first world russia

South of France on the other hand is really fucking great, i love going to Côte d'Azur
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>>521783742
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome
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>>521783486
>when even animals prefer not to fuck their related ones
They don't. Anyone who has interact with animals for more than 5 seconds knows that.
>>521783742
>How is France depressing?
France is number 1 consumer of anti-depressant in the world so there's gotta be SOMETHING depressing there.
>>521783903
>A sauna where you use Ashley sweat instead of water
Based.
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>>521783396
One of the main villains is an evil soda company and it's confirmed they have to pay for health insurance. Plus the police look like they're wearing American police uniforms instead of Finnish ones

Coffinland is based more on the USA than Finland
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>>521783958
does she really though
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>>521783512
Why was FriendB there?
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>>521783742
>Nord is just better Belgium
Based, I'm from there.
I'd say the parts that are just defunct coal mining towns can get pretty sad but the people are pretty jovial as long as no alcohol is involved.
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Threads are moving too fast
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>>521784309
Coffinland is a fictional northern European country where they let the state-run social safety nets crumble like how they crumbled in the USA.
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>>521784309

Americans don't use the words 'marks' when referring to their school grades.

There's a few other words and phrasing that gives away the author/developer isn't American.
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>>521784309
Europeans also pay for health insurance sometimes. Not everything is covered by the state package
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>>521785259
Americans know literally nothing about healthcare overseas it's crazy
The USA should have a public option like everywhere else but public healthcare is very bad in most countries that offer it
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>>521784914
Northern euros do not have black hair
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>>521787148
Southern Italy bros, we're so back
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>>521785372
France's public healthcare was great until the current president gutted it.
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>>521783456
Is this really how that works?
If i sleep with my sister who has 50% of the dna from her parents and i sleep with her who also has 50% of my dna from my parnets will our child really be 100% the dna of the parents?
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>>521782163
She will come back from work Douglas...
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>>521783396
The place is a shithole, evil company does whatever it wants, everyone is an ugly asshole.

It all checks out, it Murricaland
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>>521784914
Nemlei doesn't need to be a mutt to set a story on muttland, retard



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