Sidekick edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy, Wasteland and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>536815035>Thread QuestionWhat role are you playing?
>>536972910Might just work. They didn't lie about LLMs being on the level of a PhD.
>>536974632Imagine yourself as a retard saying this, and then actually realize that you are a retard, saying this.
>brainlet madLol. LLMs are smarter than you will ever be. Proceed to coping and crying ;)
>>536974854Please keep your posts on the topic of CRPGs! :)
oh God I'm gonna fumble this...
I accept your seething concession.Imagine being dumber than a robotranny lol
>>536974438>sidekickXan should have been in BG2 proper fucked
>>5369749951 obviously
>>536974995Judging by the profile, #2 autism
If you guys are so good at criticizing crpgs, why don't you make your own crpgs?
the only thing crpgg is good at is repeating the same 3 cuck jokes
Fallout 1 or 2?
TACTICAL ADVENTURES I CALL UPON YOU WITH POWERS BEYOND MY STRENGTH TACTICAL ADVENTURES!!!! YOU RELEASED THE DEMO MONTHS AGO THE EA VERSION SHOULD BE OUT BY NOW!!! I WILL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT MAKE ANY PACT YOU STATE!!! TACTICAL ADVENTURES YOU MUST HEAR MY PLEAS, CRIES AMD EMOTIONS!!!! I CANT WAIT MUCH LONGER HEAR MY CALLS TACTICAL ADVENTURES!!!
>>536974287I'm not doxxing myself by calling your gay phone number
>>5369754361
How much longer until they reveal the reworked clases for solasta 2?
>>536974995It's unironically 2. She's trying to be serious here since she's weighing the decision of sending you to uber hell and is trying to confide a little bit. t. AI Galfrey enjoyer
Real life female>STOP thinking about space exploration fucking retard go make more money so you can give it to me to spend!CRPG female>Yes my beloved we can explore space together, let me show you the way.
>>536976224Owlcat female>My love, it's our wedding night, I... I feel that now is the right time to tell you that one time this guy I didn't really like sweet talked me and we... we fucked RAW and I... I liked it. [mediocre girl everyone pretends is a 10/10 sighs as she looks wistfully out the window] Anyways, the wedding.
>>536976224You are 15 years old? Grow up nigga
>>536976119I'll be honest, I don't have particularly high hopes. First, they are still limited by the free version DnD 5e, so no cool classes/sublasses like Articifer / Hexblade / Swordsbard / etc allowed. Second, they've balanced the first game around the free 5e power level, so it's likely going to be the same.If anything I hope Unfinished business 2 will happen.
>>536976781>no swords bardGood.
Aww, I like how supportive Cam is
Anyone know how to beat the "burn egyptian weapons" level in rome? Already lowered too easy but they have traps everywhere protecting the archers and I cant burn the stuff fast enough before everyone gets killed. Accidentally recruited low level mercs so it's even harder. I wish there was just a skip button, I basically can't progress any more
>>536977850Pick 2.
>>536978732Never mind after like 2 hours of trying i managed to cheese them down but still lost 4/6 praetorians. Nice "easy" mode
Has iron tower given a ETA on when there next game will release?
Rogue Trader questionIf I don't bring Pasqal to the Act 3 quest, am I missing out or can his character develop far enough without it?
>>536975735You WILL call itand I WILL have no interest in youCRPG hotline is the future, still working on hosting
>>536979335Pasqal is one of the members whose events/ending sllides are NOT affected by Commoragh visit. He is affected mechanically
Million dollar crpg idea: a song of ice and fire the game.
>>536979579There was one and it flopped. I played it, it was a solid 6/10.
post a short vocaroo tip about your favorite crpg, I'll add it to the line but 25 assets max so keep it real
>>5369754362 is the better game but 1 is the most kino. Confronting the master is still one of the best moments in crpgs.The enclave were so lame in comparison.
>>536979484Got it, then I can bring Kibellah with me easily, thx
>>536979780Frank Horrigan has good presence too desu, the scene where he kills the Deathclaw barehanded?
is pokemon a crpg
>>536980042Pokemon is a jrpg
>>536979993He was cool but not final boss material imo.Going from the master who had an interesting history, motivations and an actual character to a glorified super mutant in power armor just sucks.The fight itself is good but its hard to really give a fuck about him. There should be more to a fallout final boss than "oh wow that guys a big badass"
Saw you in the flames
>>536980375I would watch a Pillars Japanimation series
>>536977850These two are cute together
>>536979579Nobody likes that series any more, GRRM made a trillion dollars and isn't going to finish it even he doesnt care about it
>>536979727https://vocaroo.com/1k7ea1rB4l54Idk what this is for but here you go
>>536979579Okay millenial
After 347 hours I finally managed to finish my 2nd playthrough yesterday. I successfully turned Expanse into a complete criminal shithole>Nomos cut off my Hutt Cartel from Imperium>Arbites were outlawed and turned into criminals>Chorda's realm has fallen into ruin and became a nest of Pirates>Malice became a Pirate>Marazhai became a Corsair>Jae became a Crime Lord and turns out she hated Bloodspun Web to the point she started a war with them lol>Fellowship of the Void grew in power>Kasballica grew in power>Vheabos VI became a pirate den>Footfall got an Iconoclast ending with poorfags increasing crime>Rykad became a daemon world spreading corruption>New Rykad became a shithole>Almost all companions either killed each other or suicided. Only Abelard died normally, but was haunted by visions of his wife and death of his granddaughter. Solomorne survived and started to larp as a Batman and became some shadowy crime fighterI only regret not managing to make Yrliet a Corsair tooHow can you get an "alliance" with Black Heart Kabal anyway? Never saw an option for it.
>>536974438Jade Empire?
>>536976575He says in a thread about games where you make parties of dollies to play out a fantasy and have amazing adventures. The "I'm actually too cool and jaded to genuinely enjoy anything" board would be /v/, try it.
>>536979579That franchise, both the books and show, is the worst thing to ever happen to modern fantasy.
This was one of my favorite cprg ever, can't even remember how many times i played it. Shame it doesn't work on my current pc:(
>>536984125But anon how did it take you so long? Did you read everything, including the books/data in inventory slowly and took our time with combat, not speeding up animations or?
>>536974438>What role are you playing?WOTR restart #7. So far had one run end in act 3, one in act 4, and the rest already in act 1. The one I start today will be the one though, for sure. I just need to spend a few more hours trying to find the perfect portrait for my dolly and curse the fact that there's almost no cool male portraits out there despite the internets overflowing with AI shit.
>>536984125>not managing to make Yrliet a Corsair tooWhat happened to her? She became a warrior?
>>536984562Isn't that a typical run length for a turn-based tranny in WOTR, I'd assume the same was true for RT. Guessing the loading screens still account for like 50 of those hours.
>>536984762I can't imagine how tedious WOTR would be in turn-based. There's literally 100's of combat encounters
I want another Pathfinder instead of warhammer slop...
>>536984562>not speeding up animationsI can't even imagine playing all of RT this way.And scrolling all the way back to the target after the camera centers on your active character after every action.
>>536984762RT is easily the shortest owl at game, I think I did everything and it only took me 115h>>536984810It’s not so bad, first run took me about 180h, doing as much as possible, exclusively in TB, kingmaker was way worse
>>536984562I had party size of 8 most of the time. Each significantly increasing length of battlesI only started to speed up animations near the end when I got really, really exhausted of this playthrough. I don't do it usually because it's not immersive and doesn't look coolI maxxed out enemy buff sliders and then further increased them with toybox. Battles took much longer initially in act 1 and act 2. I even had to restart some. Entire Heartless, Forgefiend ship, Footfall and Rykad in particular took long. I wish there was a better option to spawn more enemies. And I realized that I could even do it with Toybox too late.I kept making characters and thematic teams. Separate teams for former Arbites, for Criminals, for Xenos and Xenophiles, for Admech, some feral world barbarians and whatever else I could think of. Many ideas were unfinished like Breacher team. In the end my retinue was 39 characters, leveling them up took super long. And equipping. Once I even unequipped everything from everyone and reequipped again to reassign items and rework builds. Eventually I decided that game is obviously not designed around having so many characters and so there was not enough stuff for everyone to make them fun. I again unequipped everyone and started to Toybox spawn copies of items I already once acquired and equipping teams properly again. So I don't have to waste even more time on unequipping items from one character just to put it on other before every mission. Would be nice if there was some loadout system in game like this which could check which items are equipped on whom and then switch to a different loadout if other unit already took this item for himself in a team, but alasIn general it takes me 2x or 3x as much time to beat anything. I often revisit locations just to check if I didn't miss anything. I intentionally generated more battles to fight with my teams. I'm diagnosed with aspergers too - meme as it may be, it's still given for something I guess
>>536984726yeah
>>536987715How do you make custom (d)eldar mercs? I don't think it toybox has such functionality when I've played RT.
>>536981147I feel like most of the attack dialogue would be better without the "Die!" At the end. In my head my character was always calm and composed before he committed himself to combat, so it was difficult to reconcile that with the dialogue.
>>536988003That's the good ending for her, it's what happens if you're motivational towards her instead of teaching her to be nihilistic
>>536984762No, it isn't.120 was my run with all the DLC. What the fuck are you doing, spelling each word?
>>536988437Spawn whatever unit you want, most likely hostile ones with Toybox. Search n pick > Unit > type something to filterUse force recruit on them in Party screen in Toybox. Either in "enemy" or "nearby" tabThen you can add Archetypes to them normally through leveling and whatever other talents you want like Aeldari Equipment through toybox in "Features". Homeworld and Origin you need to add through toybox too. They won't show above classes in UI, but will be in passive talents anyway and workI looked at Marazhai abilities and manually added them too to deldar mercs in Abilities. Like Joyful TortureIt's janky as hell. Stats for some reason sometimes show up as massively bigger than they actually are during leveling. For some reason Eldar equipment still won't show on them, I guess game thinks they are human models anyway. I used redress mod to manually choose a drip on them
>>536984810That's why endgame always feels like a slog to me. Early game you can rtwp everything, midgame you have to turn based the more difficult stuff, and late game you have to do it for everything. Thank god for toybox's longer buffs because holy fuck does reapplying everything constantly suck
>>536990493>Thank god for toybox's longer buffs because holy fuck does reapplying everything constantly suckit's so funny how so many defend a system that needs a band-aid mod to fix how fucking stupid and boring it is
>>536990493You can RTWP the entire game, and if you can't its a problem of either your buildcrafting, tactics or difficulty settings.
>>536990493>midgame you have to turn based the more difficult stuff, and late game you have to do it for everythingEarly game is the most difficult though since you don't yet have the tools to beat everything easily.Lategame is when you can just buff up and auto attack everything to death. Maybe occasionally sprinkle in an aoe disable or single target nuke spell.
>>536988437And I almost forgot. But when going to another area for the first time, those spawned and recruited enemies weirdly reset to some default version. First time I was making a Wych companion, I spawned deldar girl and then when I took her into a team she defaulted to a male wych kek. Only recruited Hekatrix wasn't transitioning. After first "reset" they work ok. So it's best to make a save (obviously), spawn those few versions of whatever unit you want, take them into your team and got to Chapel or Astropathic Choir so they can default, reset or whatever it is. Check which are ok, reload and then spawn the correct one, then take her with you to Chapel anyway just in case and only then start altering them. You can change their names in Toybox too clicking that button next to their name in "Party"
>>536990851Who defends it? I love WOTR but the game is a janky piece of shit and their encounter design is more like something out of a Diablo game than a CRPG, even with RTWP in mind.
>>536990853>>536990978I'll just straight up admit I am very much a casual when it comes to dnd. I leave the difficulty as is but by the time late game rolls around I barely know what's going on. Whenever I try to use spells that aren't damage dealing I feel like the enemy just ignores it, or it doesn't go through spell resistance, and all the work on making a build and planning around it and still getting a mediocre success rate feels silly when I could just nuke them instead.Even in BG2 my strategy was to block a dooryway with my heaviest guys and then bombard the other room with every aoe spell and alchemist's fire I could find, but by the time I'm fighting a dragon in the open that doesn't work anymore and I'd get my ass kicked.
Heavily armoured orc with big hammer or half-naked orc with big hammer for WotR unfair
>>536992805>I leave the difficulty as is but by the time late game rolls around I barely know what's going on.I would say anything more than "moderately weaker enemies" and 0.8 incoming damage multiplier is going to hurt if you don't know what you're doing on RTWP. There really is no shame in tweaking it down to that level or lower though because as I'm sure you noticed by now the encounter design of the game is all over the place. You can be having a relatively smooth experience for 6-7 levels, and then suddenly three overleveled smilodons appear and rape your party to death in one round.>Even in BG2 my strategy was to block a dooryway with my heaviest guys and then bombard the other room with every aoe spell and alchemist's fire I could find, but by the time I'm fighting a dragon in the open that doesn't work anymore and I'd get my ass kicked.No shame in simple tactics, but I find more than anything in PF you just need to focus on ensuring overall tankyness. Focus on stacking AC through buffs, if the difficulty isn't too high you can probably achieve enough with just some of a handful of buffs (Shield of Faith, Barkskin, Shield, Blur, Mage Armor for unarmored characters, Haste if possible).
>>536992805You have to actually read what stuff does
so let me get this right, everyone is dick riding Regill, when hellknights and chelaxians are possibly the most retarded people in the entire setting? niggas willingly give up their ass to devils
Seeing a desert area in skyrim feels so weird. I know its not a crpg but whatever, enderal is close enough
>>536994152but he's small and a based lawtist!!
>>536990484>>536992240That's cool. I'll try it in the next playthrough.
>>536994152Pretty much. If you go the Devil mythic path you get a first hand look at how utterly retarded chelaxians are.
>>536994152>>536994220When replying to yourself is too obvious
>navigate through camellia's mindfield of a romance>she leaves anyway Thanks Owlkek.
>>536994152I always crack up when someone posts his>IT'S NOT THE FORCES OF GOOD THAT ARE WEAK, IT'S YOU, UNLIKE US BASED CHAD HELLKNIGHTS WHO DO WHAT MUST BE DONEline and I'm like "Ok but Regill and the entire Hellknight army are like the least succesful faction in the entire war and the only reason his men are even alive is because one of them broke ranks and ran away to ask for help at the last moment".
>>536992724I wish it was a Diablo game. The only time you get a default hit chance of under 50% in a Diablo game is either at the very last few levels of Diablo or in late Act IV in D2.
>>536994446I really don't see the appeal at all so I could never get through a Devil playthrough. Demon appeal is obvious (in many ways, could be played as resisting dark influence, only leaning into the rage aspect, or even going full hog pleasure seeking evil demon), and has the advantage of actually having writing and a story that starts early. Devil appeal is, what? They're demons but more anal about order? So basically cuck demons. And its a late game path, so it matters for about an hour. Also why is it even open to Azata, it makes no sense how if you were gonna go dark as Azata it'd be anything except into Demon (we even see an example of that with Arue's old friend in act 4). Come to think of it, its all so crap I can only surmise the entire Devil path was backer content.
I like Regill because he's exactly what he's supposed to be. Whether I'm playing as a neutral evil power hungry madman or a lawful good chivalrous champion of justice, I will always appreciate his position as it stands with or against me.
How the hell do multiple attacks even work in real time, does Lann just go into superspeed mode and shoot 5 arrows in a row while the enemy dretches move forward? And what about babaus and their 5 attacks? Must be horrifying.
>>536994540>valerie>camellia>cassiaOwlcat always shafts the straight women options in their games meanwhile all the faggot options get happily ever after.
>>536996504Valerie and Cassia both have happily ever after endings what are you talking about? Cam is a literal murderhobo psychopath, what you got WAS the happiest outcome.
>>536996663Cassia either abandons her house or she abandons you
>>536996504Aren't you forgetting someone?
>>536996663>Queen>no childrenGay coded antinatalist homofaggot bullshit. Humiliation RITUAL. IA IA HOMO FAGGOT'GN
>>536996873least unhinged /v/poster
>>536994152>chelaxians are possibly the most retarded people in the entire settingAndoran hands typed this post
>>536996820boobies milkies mommy
Reminder Arue will stay with you even if you turn Devil, the alignment opposite of her redeemed elysian succubus.
the "king" is formerly just a mercenary, there is no expectation of producing an heir within months of marriage
She never refused anyone.
>>536997325I was king for over a fucking year by the end of the game and a woman should be impregnated on her bridal bed. Fuck your lack of expectations.
>fallout sonora dev team (pretty much one guy) said they wouldn't be making another fallout mod, their next project would be a fully original gameI'm pretty sad that we won't get anymore slav fallout kino but hopefully they're successful with their next thing.
>>536997474okay incel
>>536994152He hates fairies so he's based.
Great, its mentally ill owlslop cuck spam time again.
>>536996663Valerie doesn't want to have kids with (You) but has no problem with some peasant farmer pumping babies in her nonstop. Camellia leaves you to go murderfuck other men. Cassia will always mutate into some hideous fish monster, and in one ending she'll even get knocked up by another man. Happily ever after my ass, I pray every day that the Russian government brutalizes Owlcat and throws them into some gulag for the rest of their lives for catering to trannies.
>>536997604Let us discuss the upcoming Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 the Collector Edition™ instead.
>>536997707At least Jae doesn't cheat on you
>>536996786There an ending where she doesn't abandon her house and remains in relationship with RT. Shame you can't marry her properly though. Especially since marriage ending does exist but only if you end romance and it's purely political loveless marriage meaning technically there is no obstacles for RT and Cassia's marriage in the "good" ending. It just doesn't happen for whatever reason.
Shart wants to get fucked by Halsin.Sawyer won't let me have sex.Morrigan fucked wolves and hairy barbarians.Liara lied about being a virgin.Tali is a dude.
wow these threads really went to shit once a certain amphibian came back
>>536997807>It just doesn't happen for whatever reason.Mishulin hates western males
What turns a person into this
>a brash girl on the brink of womanhoodWait so... how old is she?
>>53699909015-16
>>536998046The thread is what you make of it, stop being such a fucking faggot and talk about your roles instead.
>>536999298>Aerie>Annah>MissionWhy do early bioware game protagonists keep bringing little girls on dangerous missions to save the world?
>>536999090can we stop pretending like fucking teenagers is a big dealespecially in fantasy medieval settings?
>>537000283No
>>536999809
>>536999809I took Mission on the final assault on the star forge because I figured it would be a fun experience for a kid.
>>536999809Because the worlds they live in are dangerous even at best and the safest place for the girls is by the mighty murderhobo MC's side.
>>536999809Aerie is actually older than Jaheira. She's obnoxiously naive, but she isn't a little girl.
>>537000626I do not play crpgs
>>537000745Why not?
>>537000809Desperate for the attention you can get from being wrong on the internet
Might and Magic CRPG when?
It really is hard to find a good portrait. Either they're too shiny, too over the top, too zesty, has a weird background.
>>537001485There was a really good half-orc portrait from an old WOTR pack but I can't find it anymore.
>>537001081Like, 30 years ago?
Is it a bug that I can only get Kibellah in Act 3? It shows me the dialogue option for Cassia and Kibellah, but only the later is actually available
>>536979727https://voca.ro/19smkrBq7nPK
You guys ever play two crpgs in parallel? Do you get anything done?
>>536984505Looks like modded Arcanum. Tell me about it anon.
>>536984394How so?
>The monster disappeared, and silence returned once more. Steam rises from freshly baked cookies and fragrant tea on the table. Arueshalae gazes at her dream. You've never seen such joy on her face. “I... I just want to live here, in the mortal world. With you. I've solved the goddess's riddle. This is my true dream!” >Arueshalae’s fragile body flares with a rainbow light, a swarm of blue butterflies surrounds her. She looks at you with shining eyes. “I love you. Will you be with me? Will you share my dream?” >The girl flinches, but doesn’t pull her hand away. She squeezes your hand with her dry, hot fingers. “I believe you. You must be real — I don’t want to imagine a world where you’re not.” >As if she was just waiting for that, Arueshalae answers your smile with one of her own. “Together, no hardship will scare us. We’ll get through it! We definitely will!” >The heat radiating from Arueshalae’s body warms you and fills you with peace. Closing her eyes, she leans closer into you, her face moving toward yours... >Arueshalae takes your hand in her small, hot palm, and the world around you fades away. I bless this thread with my hands.
>>536984394I just know the author has a rape fetish
>Kibellah calling me out on romancing half the shipkek, fair enough
Why does Jaethal constantly drones on about pleasures and hedonism when she herself is an undead husk who can't experience any of that?
Imodae and Asmodeus are besties
>>537011280no, incest is his thing
>>537011767post it
>>537011280Fatman is capable of some of the most poignant writing I've ever read but also of >Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water.It's kind of a mixed bag
LEAKMAN PLAEASE LEAK ANOTHER DARK HERESY WAIFU!
>>537013878Because she wants to, she steals her daughter's body to experience it anon.
>>536995514I never played Devil but in theory being a machiavellian chad who instills order and obedience through fear is cooler than being a raging tard.
>>537015167That's just one of her evil endings, she has no qualms about remaining undead in another one.
I wanna smooch her.
>>537013878because her patreon god is the goddess of being undead but also being a hedonist for some reason
Anons that played Icewind Dale, is money still a consideration after getting to Lower Dorn's Deep, or is there nothing interesting left to buy in game? I definitely have been selling more then buying for a long time now.
>>537014046full plate mail kino, mercer can never compete
>>537015752because the party never stops bitches
>>537014203I'v long passed it, but it's in Act 3, after you rescue her. She has a private talk with you in the Pit and brings up each romance before asking to end things
>>537015145Space Camellia.
Any info on class system in Dark Heresy?
I've been playing Vampire: The Masquerade for the first and it's quite good so far. Playing Tremere. Going through Hollywood right now and found the Nosferatu Den.
Would this new game by the Dread Delusion devs be considered off-topic or not?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xalL1jsztCQ
>>537020202You using the GoG version? Because they use a patch that allows you to skip the sewers """""""kino""""""""".
what exactly was the tremere drawback in vtmbi know in the fluff it's paraonia over betrayals so they synchronize your empowerment with binding rituals to your leadership, but that doesn't happen with the pc
>>537020629Yes although I'm not certain if it actually worked? Someone told me it didn't apply automatically so I patched it after starting my save. I haven't had any bugs so far but I saw a thing on the wiki that Tremere are supposed to be able to use Doninate in dialogue but never saw the option. The Sewers weren't bad really, I could see the big monsters being annoying normally but Thaumaturgy shreds through them.
>>537020815physical stats capped at 4
>>537020815Nothing, Tremere's are bloodmages and you can cheese the game with Bloodboil.
is this the power of min maxing?
I guess now it's just me and my role
>>537020310I liked DD. In a 1000 years I wouldn't have guessed that their next project would be something like Grandia
>>537015707
>>537024050I guess enough people complained at DD combat, they wanted to do something different
what if we kissed in the ruins of ashberry hamlet
>>537026038I shoved daeran into a pond lel
Crazy that /crpgg/ doesn't know who the Bog-dweller Bertrude is
>>536979579Seasons 6+ and the fact that the books aren't made with a real story and ending in mind and are just shit grrm makes up as he goes (and thus why it will never be finished) have killed all enthusiasm for it.
>>537026349What does he say
>>537027412>killed all enthusiasm for it.>House of the Dragon airs>Viewership blows up
>>537027959How did Morbius man even save it?
>>537027959He's ugly normally but he looks good in this show
>>537019360Archetypes clearly still existsIn some gamescom blog or video "packages" were mentioned. I think what they did was basically bundling of multiple related talents together. Like various Burst attack related talents now come automatically with Rapid Fire. You just pick if you want Burst Attack bundle or Area Attack bundle for your Soldier. That way it's similar, but you will need less levels in game so less frequent leveling, but bigger and more meaningful choices, as a response to the most common complaint about RT leveling.I guess we will get to pick an Ordo during character creation too, since they even made a vote about it
>Gods frequently act on the mortal realm>Iomedae says she doesn't interfere so that they don't start a war between heaven and hell (mortal plane can get fucked though doooot)>be Lich>decide to kill and raise Galfrey as a zombie - no abyss, no demons, no hell, nothing to stop Iomedae from interfering>........You know maybe Daeran and Nocticula are right about her.
>>537027959Who gives a shit about the Targ's incestuous prequel? that's not the song of ice and fire that makes an interesting rpg
>>537029547>that's not the song of ice and fire that makes an interesting rpgIt has more dragons for dollies to kill though.
Camellia's smooth, soft and perfect elven skin pressed against your body. Her hard nipples gently poking your chest. You give her perky tits a quick squeeze and lick before putting her down on the bed. As your cock enters her tight elven pussy a feeling of pure bliss envelops your entire body. Her legs respond immediately by wrapping themselves around you in a tight embrace while her nails dig deep enough for a lil blood to start trickling down your back. You let out a moan before she quickly replies: Pleasure and Pain, the best combination, is it not?
what class is Jaime Lannister, the Kingslayer
>>537029547Implying that Westeros is only interesting during ASoIaF is pretty stupid, anon
>>537029978Ranger like aragorn
>>537029978Canonically Oathbreaker
>>537030243If Jaime is an oathbreaker then so is Ned and Robert
>>537030243>Yeah let me just charge at this dragonVery cool!
perhaps all men could be described as oathbreakers
>>537028757It gets better.
>>537030243>full plate armour>not drowning
Imma break my oath inside your mum
>>537030549>implying id ever make an oath
>>536974438Anybody play any Dragon Age Origins quest mods? I played Tombs of Undead and thought that was a pretty good addition. I then tried Elven Ruins and thought it was pure dogshit and clashed way too much with the lore and game. Are there any other good dungeon or quest mods?
Jaime = OathbreakerBrienne = Oath of Devotion IDUNWUNDIT = Beastmaster without the wolfDany = Draconic Sorc
>>537028757All starstone gods are jobbers>Cayden Caylean has excuse of being drunk so people don't care>Norgorber is canonical mystery nigga so he gets attributed all sorts of stufff he has nothing to do with>Iomedae got promoted to full god status literally yesterday in god terms>Aroden had access to peak Azlanti tricks & hax which propably substituted for actual divine power
John snow=beast master
I already said that you moron
>>537030549All foids should have neutral/chaotic evil alignment
>>537031230Isn't Nethys a startone god too?
>>537032691Nethys was such a fucking mad lad he learned too much and became an insane magic god
>>537015012there's literally nothing wrong with the dany shart line
Multimillion dollar idea, wheel of time the crpg.
>>537030041Sansa/the hound (books) isn't incest THOUGH
>>537028757you can kill pharasma's herald or whatever the fuck to little consequence
>>537030392Neither Ned nor Robert ever bought into the knightly ideal as Jaime did. He literally thought it his dream job. that's why his descent is so interesting. And it's literally his moniker, he can't take a shit without someone else reminding him of it, not to mention how he himself has accepted it.
The nature of ASOIAF's world would force me to play the most generically non-subversive lawful good Prince Charming knight if only to stand out from the crowd
can we stop talking about GRRM like his subversive slop is le deep?
>>537028757because the cosmic law enforcers are niggers>the wall of angels to keep the demons confined from the rest of the land are JUST AS BAD as the rampaging demons themselvesthe only ones who get to cheese the rules are antagonists so players have something to fight against in an adventure or another redeemed whore for the paizo writer's fetish (desna, nocticula, etc)
>>537033750asoiaf isn't good because it's deep, it's good because of the sprawling universe, history and rich cast of characters. It's quite monumental in that regard
ASoIaF is unironically too deep for the crowd that accepts "writing" such as>[Evil] (Attack) I don't like your face, bitch!! Die!!!!
>>537030164Aragorn is a human male fighter
>>537034048his title is ranger though. also isn't he a half elf or something? he lives way longer than the average human
ASoIaF would be great setting for a crpg if and only if you get Imoen 2.0
>>537033905>Ummm, Aeon? Have you seen the galaxy?>*Aeon with a suspiciously galaxy shaped pattern in his stomach*
>>537034298you will NEVER fuck your sister
>>537033976>[Evil] (Push child through the window) You've seen me romancing my sister-waifu, die!
>>537034385nothing [Evil] about loving your sister-wife more than anything
>>537031127Jaime = fighterBrienne = fighterJohn = fighterDaenerys = classless
>>537033976>people get mad if you can't randomly chimp out and kill NPCs>people get mad if you can randomly chimp out and kill NPCsthere's no winning here
>>537034178Yep, his job title is "Ranger of the North" but class-wise he's a fighter. Neither of his parents are elves, no. Human male fighter.
>>537033959lollmao
>>537034298It's still strange to me that that's the taboo dolly kissing dynamic when you have shit like the three monarchs in KM, Wenduag's semen requests and the Larian bear
>>537034656he's human but he's a proto-human or some shit, basically he's the last of the chad humans that lived long and are better than your basic bitch human
Boromir is literally me
Sword of Shannara crpg when
>>537034984He's a half elf
>>537032691Nah, he was just some wizard who CHIMed before it was cool
I'm kind of like Gandalf except I don't smoke weed. Which I guess makes me Saruman
>>537033976>[Evil] (Attack) I don't like your face, bitch!! Die!!!!
>[Good] (Rape) I like you! Sex!
>>good>>rape
>>537035457the afterlfie being a dream is super gay
>>537035953how else are you supposed to correct succubi and erinyes as lawful good
>>537035330Oh? Which of his parents is an elf?
I'm practically Gandalf except I pretty much do nothing. I guess that makes me one of the two blue wizards.
>>537036084>>537035953yesthis filthy whore who used to rape people to death now exclusively enjoys passionate ravaging sex with (you)
>>537036161He is a descendant of Elros, who is half Elf, and the brother of Elrond. LotR goes by the one drop rule.
>>537036354So he's not a half-elf at all then, got it.Human male fighter confirmed.
>>537035457Ah yes, Kirkbridian Metaphysics. My favorite topic.
>>537036198>I guess that makes me one of the two blue wizards.Could the blue wizards be the two lost primarchs?
>>537036342https://vocaroo.com/1ijcFASctt5F
Half elves like Cam are proof you shouldn't have hapa kids
>>537037640cam's mother was a half elfcam is just cam because she's cam, who does whatever a cam does
Hehehehe argenta and idira smell bad.
Crpg made by StudioFOW
>>537038647the real cuck studio
Argenta wanted me to be dogmatic? Should have offered sex.
>>537038647>Could introduce any type of woman they can>Includes one that specifically fucks the alien pets she keepsWhy really?
>>537038647FOW cannot string together code for a game unless you'd accept RPG maker
>>537038647They wasted years on this shit project. Years that could be spent making Kunoichi 4-12
>Multiple people immediately know what a random shitpost is talking aboutI love it when that happens.
>>537008540Could be a bug but see how it goes. There should be a point where everyone becomes available.
>>537019162Illiyan Nastase in the background
>>537033959Dawn found her squatting by the stream
>>537040936nothing wrong with that btw
>>537040936Crazy how Dany mindbroke millions of readers
A song of ice and fire is just the wheel of time for normalfags.
>pamphlet on how to halt Bleaching in Hellknights' headquartersDoes this mean Regill is full of shit and is actually scared of dying?
>>537041745You can talk to him about Bleaching and he says he just does what he can because there's no running from it.
All Tomorrows crpg when
>>537042057Has anyone played gnome. I am curious if a gnome character adds anything to this.
>>537041745It's pretty clear that he's at Worldwound to prove a point before dying if you think about his dialogues.
crpg antagonist that cannot be reduced to an alignment
>>537044707Chaotic Neutral
>>537030595its more boots and hands, you cant float but you can still swim with unrestricted limbs
>>537044707
>>537044879the antagonist is not CN but beyond alignments
It should be illegal to post ai slop
>>537045558
>>537045558if posting slop was bannable, we wouldn't have owlkek posters
>Owlkino>SlopTry again, retard
One line in Planescape: Torment has more cultural impact and worth than 3 Owlcat RPGs combined.
>>537045420Chaotic Confused
>>537045420chaotic evilliterally less nuanced than areelu unless you think"bruh think about your actions" is some earth shattering comment
>>537047130How is she evil
owlslop and ai tranimematch made in heaven
>>537047085she knows exactly what she wantsKILL THE FORCE
>>537047607yesconfused
>>537045420Avellone is the perfect example of someone who thinks he's smarter than he really is
saw you in the flames desu
>>537047372She wants to eliminate the Force, which by definition is evil. Disagreeing with the will of the Force is automatically evil.
>>537048236Something something deals in absolutes something something
>>537047372how is she not?
I like how we're supposed to think that the Hellknights are efficient but they can't actually manage to agree on doing anything without Regill destroying his career to make them rally against him out of spite
>>537048850It's the ultimate lawful cope>AH yes see, the murders, lynchings, killing of the wounded? That was necessary. For the greater good (evil)It's fun to be them but never dealing with them.
>>537047913It's more like retards take everything she says early in the game at face value
sry bro spamming ai tranime and jimmi cummies is not crpg
ever since I was cuckolded by my Asian roommate I cannot bear to look at art in the Japanimation style.
>>537050193He's the rare case where it's more fun sticking him in a party that doesn't match his alignment
__________Wilcer Garm
>>537052003
The most unrealistic part of WotR is that you cannot romance either of the foxmommies Nenio is 3k years old. Foxgrils are literally made for human men.
Why are people pretending that bloodlines was ever not a linear action rpg?
every video game is a linear action rpg
is Silksong a crpg?
>>537053709do you like silksong
what's your favorite type of character motivation for your pc?
>>537054125Revenge
>>537054125My character's motivation is to be rich, powerful, and famous.
>>537054125elf pussy
>>537054125trying to get back to his 9-5, but people keep cramming bullshit in his way
>>537054749Stop listening to Winthrop, he's a bad influence.
>>537054125Fortune and glory, kid.Fortune and glory.
>>537034178Yeah. Not literally half, but he's got Elven ancestry. He and Arwen are actually cousins, many many times removed.
Once you view everything as a dolly, every game becomes a crpg
>>537052342>can't romance the child>can't romance the fox>can't romance the halflingWhy must Owlcat be such hateful bigots?
>>537056742Ahh, so he's human then, got it.
>>537054125
>>537057440In the same sense that Infernus Master Einrich Monteg is human, yes.
in the "die with honour" fight in Expeditions Rome i know you can actually win this forced loss but how? do i have to kill everyone on the board or do the reinforcements eventually stop? i sadly missed the spear in act one that gives you reaping but surely its possible without that
>>537054125Violence.
>>537058538If you kill everyone on the map then yes I believe it ends.I've never not won that encounter so I don't actually know what happens if you lose.
>>537058538You have to kill them all before reinforcements arrive. That or before the second one. I forgot because I started killing them all before they had a chance to.
JA3 is fun
>>537062032It is
>>537062032forgot my screenshot
IRON TOWER I SCREAM YOUR NAME WITH ALL MY STRENGTH IRON TOWER!!!!! PLEASE I BEG OF YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT GAME LONGER THAN 20 HOURS!!!!!! IMAGINE HOW MUCH FUN AGE OF DECADENCE AND COLONY SHIP WOULD HAVE BEEN IF THEY WERE LONGER!!! PLEASE IRON TOWER IM ON MY KNEES PRAYING FOR A 60 HOUR GAME I NEED IT IRON TOWER!!!!! ILL PREMIUM PRE-ORDER IT I DONT CARE!!!
>>537054125Wizard researching weird shit.
Swordhaven when
>>537062770December I think?I haven't played their other games but swordhaven looks cool. One of the few rpgs I'm looking forward to.
>>537062032
>>537054125This>>537054659I like enemies to be as evil as possible so it feels more deserving to murderhobo without mercy
Due to constant complaints all romances for all future crpgs will now be generic lawful good blonde virgin princesses that are madly in love with the PC and want to be married and have large families. Every other female character will be either too old or too ugly to be considered a romantic prospect.
>>537067853If they let 4channers make games yeah it would be like that
DarkerGrey is the only good CRPG artist
>>537067853Honestly, yeah, I'll jive with that. Give me an honest to goodness fairytale-like CRPG. Play every fucking trope straight. Everyone's trying to be subversive nowadays.
>>537068158ENTER
>>537054125Money, unique items, and new skills to acquire more money and unique items with. All of it in a spiral of acquiring ever more money and items until he can live the rest of his life without working.
>>537070379Damn, I need to check on what Ryoko Kui gotten up to since she finished DM.
Hag sister of battle romance who laments on not being able to have kids anymore
>>537070379I remember her saying she hadn't played WOTR at the time of her Camcam fanart, wonder what she thinks of her now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSP0rKieqac&t=62s
>>537070651Nothing new so far. Probably just enjoying the anime bucks for now.
>>537071554Look at that kissless virgin on the cusp of womanhood.
>>537072594
>>536974438I was so disappointed finding out a game titled 'Succubus' existed, and it turned out it wasn't a CRPG and didn't actually involve doing any succubus-y things. Corrupting, ensnaring simps, being a messy bitch who loves drama. Nothing.
>>536979579After the Telltale Game of Thrones game?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones_(2014_video_game)Better to stick to new IP that at best has a GRRM-ish vibe.
>>537076347What is it about then?
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich CPRG
>>537074286this man is my hero
kek
>>537040936Sunset.
>>537077254why did they downvote lil bro?
What studio is the lebron james (GOAT) of crpgs?
>>537077254>I don't like imperium because it's religious>My favorite faction is Chaos...
>>537077703troika
>>537076692Seems to be just FPS ultra violence with boobs instead of making men do your fighting for you.
>>537077254I'm confused, he says he wants a 40K game without religious themes, to be secular...yet he says he wants to be a champion of chaos?Even if you're a chaos type who wants to use the gods, it's still extremely religious no?
>>537078426The plot and the themes, I mean.And the average chaos follower with a few exceptions is a zealot for the dark gods
>>537077254>I'm an atheist>can't find the fun in roleplaying as an Uber zealous dudeskill issue. A chaos game would be kino if it was in fantasy. also imagine saying theres too much 40k stuff and then asking for more 40k stuff but for a different faction.
>>537076554>has a GRRM-ish vibeI miss Dragon Age Origins
>>537078426He's some foreigner ESL teenager. Probably an atheist in a Muslim majority country.
>>537078603yeah I don't get it either, I can only guess he's one of those atheists with a hate-boner for religon/wants to be edgy so he likes playing as the settings equivalent of devil worshippers. the refined atheist faction of choice is the humble guardsman
Is Eder supposed to be the only likable companion in both Pillars games?
My boyfriend and I.He never played morrowind so I thought him the game with an online mod, he loved it.He's the mage, i'm the orc barbarian. I thought him how to create a levitation spell for him and how to make me levitate. And then we took a picture. Happy times :)
>>537077790The only good Chaos legion are the Iron Warriors, who are basically atheists
>>537078932Eder? More like smellyder because he smells bad.
>>537078932I like the sassy elf and the dwarf grill. pallegina too given you don't push her to be an asshole and tell her "yes do the good thing not the asshole move that would fuck over this village"
>>537078932There's the 2 who immediately die at the beginning.
>>537042531Literally every chapter of that book is a 1000 years apart.Which age would you pick for the setting of the game?I would choose the alliance vs the orbs time period.
>>537079364Calisca is the only attractive companion in Pillars so of course they kill her in 20 minutesAlso why didn't those idiots just run back into the cave when the device whipped up another hurricane?
>avowed essentially killed the pillars IP ensuring that a third game will never get madeWhat was Sawyer's plan here?
>>537078932>not wanting to explore the depths of Caed Nua with your big friendly bro Kana>not wanting to hear him go on about the history of Rauatai while you adventure
>>537079828he's a woke cultist and a cuck, he doesn't have a plan he just hates gamers and specially white ones
>>537079615>only attractive companion in PillarsI mean she's annoying but Xoti was kind of hot in a sort of grimy way.
>>537077254>AAAA RELIGIONClassic plebbit.
>>537068269>fairytale-like CRPGI know you meant 'Disney movie-like' but taking the idea in the older sense.A fairy tale like CRPG would be starting with your hands and feet cut off and left to die in the woods instead of starting as a prisoner. Involve ruthless trickery and betrayal of all obstacles to your goals whether the target really had it coming it or not. And stealing, lots of stealing all the magic items you can from every witch, dragon, and giant you get jealous of.
>>537080560Religion is and always will be pants on head retarded, sorry babe
>no more pathfinder games>pillars of eternity is dead>dragon age is dead>owlcat is more interested in sci fi now with warhammer and the expanse gameFantasybros...not like this. All we have left is Solasta.
>>537080897>pillars of eternity is deadyour Avowed, sir?
>>537067853As someone who picks the closest thing to this option every time I say no, variety is important and I like making the conscious decision to go my own way in lieu of "better" or more popular options. I don't care that much about a girl's past unless it's really bad, but I just don't want to hear it
>>537080957Avoided
>>537077254I'm atheist and I find religious characters much more endearing. Seeing someone with purpose, drive, and a spirit of self sacrifice for his beliefs always resonates with me.
>>537080957A flop and thanks to it any plans for a PoE3 was scrapped for the foreseeable future.
>>537080897If fantasy rpgs are sooo good in your opinions why you don't play them anymore and need new ones?
>>537079118That's very cute and I'm genuinely happy for you two but this is the /crpg/ thread, you want to go to /tesg/. Or maybe not, I don't know what the thread quality is like over there.
>>537081524how is it not an computer rpg?
>>537081524Sorry but morrowind is a crpg because I like it
>>537081897Impossible.It's not a crpg because I don't like it.
>>537081601cRPG more or less refers to a specific style of rpg where it's a conversion of table top rpg games to the computer. Morrowind and other first/third person games don't do that, they're still rpgs on a computer but they're not a computer rpg
Are you a superstar?
>>537082450Do you mean turn-based combat.Does Fallout 2 count but Fallout 3 is disqualified.
>>537080897Solasta 2, Swordhaven, Banquet for Fools
>>537082450>they're not a computer rpgUhm yes they are. They may not fit into this particular style of CRPG but they are still computer RPGs.There's a mod that adds isometric view into morrowind, would that make your autism happy then?
>>537083071>>537083214Not necessarily. the cRPG genre as far as I'm aware is just table top rpgs but on a computer. That's where the name originally came from, and it was just never updated or corrected. Fallout 1 and 2 follow grps or whatever it's called, but fallout 3 is just a shooter with rpg elements.
>>537083071Turn-based isn't a criteria. Turns were just invented for table-top to emulate real time, since you can't have players yelling what they do simultaneously. But in any case, turns/real-time doesn't impact whether it's a crpg.Morrowind is grandfathered in as a CRPG in the Wizardry tradition, but no other first-person games are allowed after this.
>>537081329froggy told me it was wildly successful and made trillions
>>537083338>Fallout 1 and 2 follow grpsIt doesn't. Actually, early on in the development of fallout 1 they tried to use GURPS rules but they scrapped the idea after noticing it didn't work. Thus the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system was born.So yeah, fallout 1 has no TTRPG rules though they are clearly somewhat inspired by them.
>>537083843Didn’t the gurps guy refuse to let them use his ruleset because he thought the game was too violent or something?
steps to determine if a game is a crpg1. look at bg1&2, this is a crpg.2. look at skyrim, this is not a crpg.3. is the game in question closer to bg1&2 or skyrimthe key point to this strategy is to not be autistic, many people miss this important prerequisite
>>537084054having a reliable, consistent, not vague definition is not autism, it's to avoid dealing with your feelings on a given day
>>537084054I'm autistic and according to your criteria any roguelike is a CRPG.>turn based combat>grid movement
Thank god I’m not autistic enough for this argument
is golden axe an rpgthere's a dwarf guy, a barb guy, and a fighter girland magic
>>537083426Are you sure.How many real time CRPGs are there then that aren't a TES game.Turn-based combat, quests, dialog trees... these seem like the core criteria if you're trying to find rules to exclude Fallout 3/NV/4.
>>537084054is command & conquer a crpg
>>537084771fallout 1 and 2 are not turn based but the main figures in the CRPG genre
>>537085024it looks like bg1 so yes
>>537084771I think we're pedantic for the sake of arguing. We all know, intuitively, what a cRPG is. That's why we're talking about games like BG or Pathfinder or Tyranny sometimes instead of Total War, which by the way has an abstraction very similar to dice rolls, rtwp, quests, turn based strategy modes, etc.
>>537085108>fallout 1 and 2 are not turn basedThe combat where you and the Cave Rats take turns isn't turn-based?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbdzdjUetpw
>>537085108People here really just don't play any of these games
Fallout 4 crpg demake
>Imoen, CHARNAME saved you from Spellhold at great personal risk. You should show your appreciation physically.>EWWW VICONIA!! He's my BROTHERI feel like Imoen bought into the "godspawn siblings" thing way too quickly. She hadn't grown up thinking of you as her brother, she always thought you were her childhood friend.
>>537087294forbidden romance of long lost siblings...
>>537083338>the cRPG genre as far as I'm aware is just table top rpgs but on a computerThat's bullshitCRPGs are their own thing.
>>537087294Just download the romance mod man
>>537084052It was some kind of disagreement, but that part sounds like urban legend.https://forum.rpg.net/threads/what-happened-between-steve-jackson-and-interplay-fallout-vs-gurps.116943/
>>537087294What does that say about you when even in fiction incest is too degenerate for the writers?
>>537085474Total War are strategy games on the scale of nation management.I mean we intuitively know there are some disqualifying things that can make something not a CRPG, but can we list them out, with as few grandfathered exceptions as possible?Every FPS is real time, but not all real time combat games are FPSes, so I guess I can see how FPS might be disqualifying but real-time combat isn't. But are there many real time combat CRPGs?
>>537089236>Every FPS is real timeumm superhot??
>>537089236Pillars, BG1&2In any case that's not a meaningful criteria, even though yes there are real time combat CRPGs. BG1&2 essentially set off the genre and Pillars arguably resurrected it.But asking if CRPGs exist with some criteria isn't useful. If there's no CRPGs that take place on Mars, does this mean games that take place on Mars can't be CRPGs?
>>537089480>tfw no redeemed martian alien gf romance pathWtf....
a general that can't even define the genre it's supposedly about is a red flag, imagine a political movement that can't defend what it's fighting for
>>537089236Real time:>Neverwinter Nights >Morrowind>Dragon Age: OriginsReal time with pause:>Kenshi (?)>Arcanum>Tyranny>Baldurs gate 1 and 2you get the idea...
>>537089754I am a Numberist, I firmly believe that all CRPGs have numbers. I don't know any more than that
>>537089675ShitsPants will fix that
>>537089754>imagine a political movement that can't defend what it's fighting foryou mean most ones?
>>537089754it's like porn vs artI know it when I see it
>>537089754Leave then
>>537080897Don't worry solasta 2 and The Secret of Weepstone will save this general with dnd kino
>>537089754It's a general for western rpgs that don't have enough dedicated discussion to spawn their own general
>>537090460I'm here to talk about Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy, Wasteland and many others.
>>537089480It's enough to prove it's not a criterion.
>>537090478>dnd>goodSci-fi GODS won.
Let's finally settle this. If I want you to not talk about a game it's a flop and not a crpg.
Disco Elysium? not an rpg. no stat-based roleplaying, no combat, no branching narrative, it's a visual novel
>>537091507>stat-based roleplayingDoesn't it have that.
>>537091507In disco elysium the combat is replaced by dialogue and the game is all dialogue so it's an arpg.
>>537091507>no branching narrativeI was pretty disappointed that the tribunal had really only two outcomes
>>537091619it has a ton of that, anon is a dummy.I actually think of it as the current gold standard for stat-based roleplaying.
>>536974438>Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence,alphabetizing autism: should it be under 'The' or under 'Age.'
OFF is a CRPG.
Minesweeper is a crpg.
>>537092124technically, it should count as an A title but starting the list with The feels weird
>>537092124Under A, most certainly. >starting the list with The feels weirdDrop the The, just call Age of DecadenceLike how it says "Necromancer's Tale" instead of "The Necromancer's Tale"
>>537091507it's a computer game on mer computer
A Dark Room is a CRPG.
>>536974438>Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader, >Dark Heresy, >WastelandWhat the fuck is this alphabetizing
>>537087294you essentially where siblings though because you where the only children in candlekeep. which moonlights as a baalspawn daycare apparently
>>537092968raised like siblings* unless I'm misremembering and those npcs you can do quests for grew up with CHARNAME and imoen too, which would mean candlekeep is just a regular daycare.
Whatever happened to Imoen in the end. I liked her, she was so endearingly lame.
>>537093076I think those NPCs are older. You and Imoen were the only kids. Who was looking after Imoen though? Was it Gorion too?
Succubus Prison: House of Lewd Demons is a cRPG
>>537092876It's Warhammer 40k: (Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy).Which is still the wrong way around, I guess.
>>537093110she's fine. they originally planned to kill her off but players liked her so much that they changed it last minute, iirc she just stops having interactions past a certain point
>>537093273Wasn't she raised by winthrop?
>>537093282>no vinum gfwhy even live
Travelling at Night will not be a crpg: fact.
So there's a semi Hamlet-inspired CRPG. Are there other ones inspired by the Western canon?
>>537093512For me it's the pure white devil
>>537085108Ok seriously what the fuck did he mean by this. How can anyone be so dumb
>>537095970Ok so they are turn based but you know what I mean.
>>537096318I don't really care, these discussions about defining the genre never go anywhere.I just think you shouldn't talk about shit you know nothing about. Stick to your owlslop.
>>537096318Why bother larping as a fan like this
I deserve solasta 2 NOW
>>537096318>you know what I meanWhat did he mean by this?
>Bawl my whole fucking village is dead>I am a stranger drifted in time >Literally everyone i know is dead >"Wanna fug?" C'mon man
>>537101906Sex is how he copes
>>537101906>gay faggot upset at being propositioned by gay faggot
>>537101906In his defense your portrait got gayer
>>537101906The "D" stands for "Dicksucking Faggot"
>>537082450And yet both Deus Ex and Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines have been in the OP forever.If someone wants to post about actually playing Elder Scrolls games, and NOT scantily clad screenshots of their modded Skyrim character like every other post in /tesg/, I think it's fine.
>>537102731No it isn't, it is dwarven for "Man who plays a real cook fucking character and totally has sex all day everyday with beautiful women from all around the world"
Owlcat Games and its RPGs have been a disaster for /crpgg/
Today I'm for sure rescuing my wife from the Drezen dungeon.
>>537102861>cook fucking
>>537102861My man that's a zesty portrait if I ever saw one. Also looks like he came straight out of Dragon Ball Z. Not really judging though.
Did dark heresy just copy wastelands combat system?
>>537103751I doubt they will add in tons of fun gimmick guns so not entirely.
>>537092118Kind of, but at the same time its literally just dice rolling, more so than even a pure tabletop game. There is no skill element or real player input. You pick your build, but then the game mostly takes you for a ride and you're supposed to just roll with it. Its not a bad game at all but it made me appreciate how big of a part a fun combat system plays in a crpg.
>>537102731Nonsense. Why would all these homosexuals keep sucking his cock?
How is wasteland in general? Worth playing if I’m mostly a storyfag?
>>537103627I've seen zestier.
>>537104057>>537102731I am so manly other men just look like women to me
>>537104604trvth nvke
>>537104079yeah both the stories are really good (haven't played 1) i prefer 2's slightly more.
Being a schoolmaster is suffering.
>>537105787Talk them out of it
>>537105787Turn them into zombies
This might sting a bit Derrezzand
>>537106804Alright I overhyped myself
I do not think I will be pursuing this romance any further
>>537107109How very petty of you.
Is it worth bothering with the EE companions in BG1?
>>537107109Filtered
>>537103510Actually scratch that I'm restarting again, really not feeling this Sohei. For how hyped up it is mounted combat fucking sucks.
>>537108124Lay it out for me, what is the appeal of a Galfrey romance?
>>537108119They're okay. Their quests don't take long so you might as well
>>537108257You get to bang her later.No but really it’s a super slow burn kind of thing that isn’t for everyone and nothing really even happens until very late game, but I liked it in a thematic sense and I like galfreys character in general
>>537107109>western writer makes canonically friendly girl abrasive in attempt to make them "more interesting"it's always either that or making them a slutoften both at the same time
>>537109603I prefer Galfrey being abrasive to being slutty. Thankfully she's canonically, well, not slutty
>>537062032>>537062230>having an absolute blast with JA3, 8 months ago>loved the voice lines, the humor and all the little choices you could make>the Grunty + Monika interactions>the unique lines Hitman gets once you visit the brothel>Mouse singlehandedly wiping entire outposts on her own >BARRY UNGER>finally got to the army ambush>haven't played sinceTo this day I still don't know what happened Something just clicked in my brain, and even the idea of starting it up disgusts me
>>537109603Retard
>>537102861Thats the most closet homo response you possible could have said.
>>537109603>Russians>Western
>>537109603owlkek a shit
>>537077254Self-inserters are so gay. Complete lack of imagination has to play themselves/their ideologically correct variant.
>>537109979Where's Cam and Wendog?
Where does horus go if you kill camellia? He stays for bit and then just disappears from drezen entirely eventually
>>537110502
cumy
>>537109919Russians feel more Western than Western professors and corpos at the moment. That's been the case for years now.
>>537109979Why'd Owlcat make Sosiel so unbelievably zesty when this portrait is actually pretty good. For that matter can someone please explain why the game in general has decent portraits, but when you get into crusade mode the unit portraits are just absolutely retarded? They couldn't pay the same artist who did the character portraits enough to make another 30-40 unit portraits?
>>537110959What does that even mean?
I want to try demon mythic path but it's only 3 times rage per day? Seems lame.Without mods is having a time manipulator arcane deceiver to reset it my best option? I already have a bft arcanist tho, how many supports are too many.
>>537111351It means anything actually western is 100% pozzed, and anything else is at most 50% pozzed.
>>537110502Whendog is actually the tutorial villain of the campaign >>537110740you're supposed to kill her in the shield maze as a small initial bumpCam doesn't exist in the tabletop. She takes the place of Aravashinal in the game by killing him in the Kenabres festival at the very beginning
>>537111895>Whendog is actually the tutorial villain>you're supposed to kill her in the shield mazeI would never do that. I love Wendog. Everyone loves Wendog.Terrible campaign design.
>>537111895>She takes the place of Aravashinal in the game by killing him in the Kenabres festival at the very beginningcuteeeeeeee
>>537111041>Why'd Owlcat make Sosiel so unbelievably zestyBecaue he's canonically gay.
>>537111605Mechanically demon is the least interesting of all paths to me for this reason. The rage is strong but it becomes one of those things where I then end up never using it because I'm always saving it for a harder fight.
>>537112070Gay people don't have to look like caricatures though.
>>536979579They made a CRPG for GoT on a shoestring budget years ago, it was a janky mess with some interesting narrative ideas at best.>https://store.steampowered.com/app/208730/Game_of_Thrones/
ANON, lord of HOMOS! Leave. my. THREAD!
You weren't supposed to actually leave, please come back
>>537113316I'm too busy doing homo shit
>>537109603I didn't mind it that much. >Chosen by the Paladin God>face of the crusades>femcel>some rando no one's heard of shows up and makes more progress in a few weeks than you made in 100 years>Court filled with seditious cunts that want to overthrow your council>people overtly mock you and doubt you because of this>even the hand of your patron god that chose you personally straight up says rando is the only one who can get things done around here right in front of you>even you realize this rando is hyper competent and unstoppable>someone has to go to the abyss and stop it on their side, who else but rando?>convince yourself rando will be fine, he's invincible, you've been waging war for 100 years you're not incompetent you can at least hold on until he comes back>he doesn't come back>realize you had a woman moment>being queen fucking sucks just let it end already>cry while writing a farewell letter >he comes back>fuck>this was just a one time thing (it wasn't)>yeah fuck ruling I did my part I'm just gonna go be a housewife instead
Why do I see so many people thinking a dump stat is your best stat now
>>537113657It's the stat that lets you dump on the enemy.
>>537113657be more specific
>>537111895You don't know it was Cam who killed him! The evidence is circumstantial!
>>537115420you might even say circamstantial
Why is there so much freemason imagery in owlcat games?
>>537091507>stat-based roleplayingIt has that>no combatNot required for an RPG. And you really means "no combat system", which is definitely not required for an RPG.>no branching narrativeDoes Baldur's Gate has a branching narrative? Is it not a RPG?
>>537091507>no branching narrative>it's a visual novelIronically visual novels usually do have branching narrative.
I wanna do my first Vampire: The Masquerade playthrough. Any QoL mods I should use or should I just go in raw?
In a TTRPG, playing a self-insert is an embarrassing activity that rightfully gets you branded as That Guy. In CRPGs, however, it is normal and even expected. Simpletons and redditors beg for choices which reflect what they would do personally, rather than what an interesting character embedded in the setting would do. This is the primary failure of CRPG storytelling from which all other failures flow, including companion romances. Sawyer denounced this aptly as 'ego-stoking' but there are other names you can give it. It's time to demand better.
>>537118619>rather than what an interesting character embedded in the setting would do*unless it's something icky in the current zeitgeist
>>537118619t. Sawyer
>>537082450Morrowind is the halfway house which is why it's unpopular with children. It's old-school dice rolls merged with a 3D real-time setting. Grognards disown it because it's not isometric and turn-based; zoomers disown it because 'why do I keep missing with my long blade 15 skill?' Patricians understand and enjoy it.
>>537118619>Muh interesting characterOkay, what happens if you introduce a rapist PC into a nice city? Will you let me roleplay as one?
>>537119292Would a good DM let you?
Oath of Roles
>>537116191Owlcat of Minerva, duh
>>537116191Wdym?
>>537115420You don't know Cam killed himYou can't prove she didYou probably killed himHelp! Help! Police!
>>537115748
>>537119184Rogue Trader almost gets this right but takes the Iconoclast options too far. Hopefully Dark Heresy doesn't include a 'I'm only part of the Inquisition to protect the vulnerable and downtrodden' route.The whole point is that your are playing a role, not playing yourself. If the kind of role that interests you is out of place in the setting, choose a different setting. I don't expect to play a bard or a druid in 40k and you shouldn't expect to play a 21st-Century paragon of social justice either.
>>537120350>21st-Century paragon of social justice >"See to it that the lower deckers receive adequate food and clothing">"Beatings are to be kept to an appropriate minimum">bleeding heart wokie
>>537120487Pretty much yes, except you're cherry-picking the milder Iconoclast options. It's the middle ages in space. If that doesn't appeal to you, play something else.
>>537120724>It's the middle ages in spacewhere is my rape, then?
>>537120724>It's the middle ages in spaceCK3, as toned down as it is, has far more grit than this gameIt's sanitized to hell
>>537120843>where is my rape, then?Literally what?
>>537121016True, but 40k games have always fallen short of the full Event Horizon treatment so this is nothing new.
>>537120843These guys were gonna rape JaeBut that's an isolated incident, rape is extremely rare in the Imperium of Man.
>>537120350Majority of people don't care about that, and very few people will gravitate towards the "eviscerate innocent child out of the blue" dialogue option in a videogame despite how much an hypothetical setting promotes the virtues of eviscerating children. There's very few reasons anyone that is truly playing the "KC role" in WotR would ever let Arue live, let alone let her join your party; and yet she's the community's favourite romance option by a very very large margin. It's absurd how much people are willing to trust such a filthy beast despite 200+ hours of gameplay showing that demons are irredeemably evil and are not to be trusted under any circumstance despite what they may say: from Minagho to random cultists to that one succubus that appears as Iomedae. People subconsciously wanna play themselves in vidya, otherwise you wouldn't have droves of drooling mongoloids blogposting about muh white male fighter memery>>537120843I distinctly remember one novel where Emp Children are described as having grossly mutated bulging beast cocks for the sole purpose of rape, but someone else will have to find the exact quoteI remember it took place in some big white marble mansion
>>537121491>These guys were gonna rape Jaedamn, they must have been desperate
>>537083426>Morrowind is grandfathered in as a CRPG in the Wizardry tradition, but no other first-person games are allowed after this.Anachronox? Ultima Underworld?
>>537121631She was pretty drunk and vulnerable. It's right after the part where she tries to hold a party in Cumrag>cmon what's wtih you guys>Jae we aren't in the mood>FUCK YOU *storms out*You have no choice but to go after her.
Would Prima Noctis be dogmatic?
>>537121518>People subconsciously wanna play themselves in vidyaYes, this is my point, and it's the biggest things holding back CRPG writing. The question is: why? Why are people much happier to 'play roles' around the table in front of others than in a computer game?
>>537121825Yep, Dogmatic means being borderline heretical but having the law on your side.
>>537121909Tabletop role playing is a much more committed hobby that playing a computer game, so it selects people who take it much more seriously.Also being in front of others encourages acting and immersing yourself in a role. When you're playing solo, it's much easier to play it like yourself going on an adventure, because you don't have an audience consisting of other players.
>>537121909You strongly overestimate how many casuals are willing and capable of actually playing a character in TTLots of people literally make characters that boil down to "me but I can shoot fireballs"Also TT carries with it the social expectation that you'll try your hardest to "live the experience with others" and to "fit in with everyone else", so if your best friend is playing a murderhobo, you'll want to murderhobo as well to fit in and share the experience. This obviously doesn't work for vidya because an NPC is just a voice on the screen, and non-mentally unstable human beings generally don't seek the approval of pre-written voicelines
>>537119862
>do the first part of egypt campaign in rome expeditions>took me like 5 hours>next part is literally triple the amount of provinces to conquer I am going insane. My rations are so low and the UI is so clunky. I don't get the benefit of having two armies either. It doesnt speed things up at all!
>>537122101>'Tabletop role playing is a much more committed hobby'A TT campaign might mean playing 4 hours once a week with a DM to explain, interpret, enforce, bend and disregard the rules for you as you go. Meanwhile someone said a couple of threads ago that WotR is not meant to be enjoyable until you've put 120 hours in and have all the poorly-explained mechanics fully memorised.
>>537121518Wtf is that xeno dancing real?
>>537121909What's the point of playing a role when you have an audience of one?
>>537122315>non-mentally unstable human beings generally don't seek the approval of pre-written voicelinesYou don't belong here
>>537122605>WotR is not meant to be enjoyable until you've put 120 hours inYeah, by yourself, when it suits you personally.You don't have to coordinate with 5 other autists.
>>537122375what is his alignment?
When you TTRP you are performing a role for the enjoyment of your friendsWhen you're playing alone you are just being yourself unless you're insane
>>537122556are you that dude that was losing on easy?r u an owlslopper?
>>537122879>He is only following his instinctsTrue Neutral
>>537122715What's the point of playing as a 7ft hulking barbarian when you aren't one?
>>537123387If you have an audience to be amused and pleased by your observant and thoughtful performance, then there's a pointIf it's just you on your own then it's insane.
>sword-tranny but not cringeWho knew that the most cringe RPG class in existence may have such peak aesthetics.
Exactly what part of Wenduag is supposed to be appealing. Everything from her looks to personality is fucking disgusting. That's not even getting into the fact that she seems utterly hellbent on having Daeran (and Woljif to a lesser extent) breed her.
>>537124348people with a monster girl or cuck fetish
>>537123924You aren't 'performing,' in a CRPG. You're exploring pre-written possibilities the developers wrote into their game ahead of time. How is this difficult to understand? It's as if you think playing anything other than a self-insert in a CRPG is the equivalent of reading dialogue out loud in a funny accent and gesticulating in front of your monitor. I pity you because it sounds like you have no imagination, perhaps because you didn't read novels as a child.
Ulbrig has the only competent voice actor in any Owlcat game. Listening to some of the abysmal direction and delivery in WotR and RT is painful.
>>537125016Marazhai was pretty good too
>>537123387Its fun
i don't care owlsloppers post this inane shit in their discord
>bloodragers and barbarians get a mythic ability that lets them rage infinitely>bards don't get a mythic ability that lets them sing infinitelyIt's not fair bros
>>537124029>tranny>cringe>peak>aestheticsYou forgot to talk about "kino," you buzzword-spewing mongrel.
lawful bussin
>>537121518>It's absurd how much people are willing to trust such a filthy beastThe game doesn't really ask you to trust her. She asks you to let her out of jail, and why wouldn't you? What's she gonna do, attack you in melee when succubi are built to be archers? Later she lies to you to get you to kill a hag for her, but in a way that it doesn't really make any difference if you believe the lie. The hag IS evil, and doesn't make any better case than Arue.Also, most other demons you talk to are basically incapable of telling a convincing lie. The succubus that tries to "tempt" you in Regill's quest is completely inept at it. Staunton *knows* Minagho is incapable of feeling love, he's just beyond caring. The one in the Gray Garrison pretending to be Iomedae isn't even trying to look convincing, she's completely relying on mind control.Every successful demonic scheme in the game relies on the aid of mortals. People talk up how devious the demons are, but looking at what they actually do, it's clear that the actual problem is everyone else being retarded.
What explains that so few are willing to be evil in rpgs when you would assume the medium allows the safe exploration of what we fear or detest in real life
>>537127629People don't want to explore evil, particularly when there are no consequences.
[Evil] (Attack) No, I don't have spare change. But I got something else for ya!!
>>537127629Evil is usually badly written and unsatisfying. There's rarely any complexity to it (e.g. 'villain with motivations arguably better than the hero's'). Usually it's just "I don't like you. Die!" or "I want power" (even though a good run ends up just as powerful if not moreso).
>>537127629I think it's because the Evil path usually feels like you're missing out on content. Either that or people feel like being evil is just choosing the>I don't like you. Die!dialogue every time you meet a new NPC.
>>537128204>I think it's because the Evil path usually feels like you're missing out on contentAt least in BG1 and 2 there were actually evil quests and companions.
>>537127629but i don't loot every house, corpse or grave i encounter irl?
>>537127629Evil actions make most humans feel bad, and as such are avoided.The exception to this is whenever evil benefits you. Stealing in Skyrim, Slavery in Minecraft, Lies in Social Games.
>>537127936>>537128185>>537128204By the way the point of the "I don't like you. Die!" line is to allow you to kill NPCs, without implementing a system like Baldur's Gate had where you can just attack any NPC whenever you like.
>[Neutral] I'm indifferent towards you. Bye!
>>537128449>YOU CANT LOOT CORPSES ITS A VIOLATION OF JEHOVAH'S CONVENTIONSIt's the middle ages
>>537127629Most people don't have the urge to be evil, anon. That's all you.
>>537127165>She asks you to let her out of jail, and why wouldn't youBecause she's a demon in a position of vulnerability? If the KC found some random Dretch sleeping somewhere, would he reasonably leave him alone because "what is he gonna do, wake up and punch me with his little retarded arms?" And this is without mentioning the beast is a succubus, y'know, that whole subspecies which is built around taking advantage of mortals and their moral weaknesses? And pretending to be such an oh-so-vulnerable damsel only to eventually betray the ever-so-pious KC sounds EXACTLY like the kinda shit succubi get off to.>Every successful demonic scheme in the game relies on the aid of mortals.Exactly my point! The Fifth Crusade failing because its KC was too merciful and pious would be an extremely fitting scheme: look at those weak mortals, the very values they hold so dear are the ones that eventually led to their final downfall.
>>537128735Grave robbing has been evil since, like, ever. So has theft. Plundering corpses only works during wars.
>>537121909Because that table is drama club, an innately social activity. It really can't even remotely be compared to an CRPG, which is more akin to an interactive book or show. In many ways the latter has much more potential as a form of escapism and entertainment, assuming the writing is competent enough and that the actual gameplay loop is fun. This whole argument is really just failed normies (after all, you're here) comparing apples and oranges or trying to status signal. No one gives a fuck, if TTRPG's are so fun why don't you go play instead of posting here. Oh right, you only have time to do it once every two months because you're all normies with kids and jobs. Congratulations.
>>537129319Anon, you wound me.
>>537129098>So has theft.I STOLE A LOAF OF BREADMY SISTER'S CHILD WAS CLOSE TO DEATHWE WERE STARVING
>>537129016Why are you being so disingenuous when you're obviously familiar with the game? You already know Arue and her backstory, and the connection a KC with mythic powers would have with her (at least on the azata path). Would it always make sense to let her out? Of course not. Its up to everyone how they want to roleplay it, and obviously a lot of people don't do that at all, but that's true even among tabletop fags.
>>537129016>would he reasonably leave him alone because "what is he gonna do, wake up and punch me with his little retarded arms?"Yes. Anyone can change, even demons. I will always give them a chance to redeem themselves once no matter how many times it may fail.
>>537128419I'm a late comer into the genre and in my experience I feel like I've been programmed by other types of games to assume the Evil options usually lead to underwhelming results
>>537128449You would if you could. So why don't you ingame?
>>537130434Demons aren't people. The line between good and evil does not cut through their hearts. They cannot repen, they cannot be redeemed, they cannot achieve unity with God.
>>537129691>Why are you being so disingenuous when you're obviously familiar with the game?My original post was a reply to anon rightfully complaining about people "not playing the role": I pointed out that anyone playing most KC roles should not trust Arue yet here we are.>You already know Arue and her backstoryI do, the KC doesn't>and the connection a KC with mythic powers would have with her (at least on the azata path)Only I and the few KC that got both apparitions know about that (which I'd wager is less than 10% on a first playthrough considering the second one is quite off the beaten path, behind some obnoxious enemies). And even then, nothing excludes demonic trickery.>Would it always make sense to let her out?Logically the KC should let her out maybe 5% of times, if they're very naive or very high on Desna. I don't want to insult the beast or her fans, I'm just pointing out that people very much do NOT play a role logically and second-guess themselves the second they see a qt girl with a unique portrait>>537130434Ok but what if you wake him up and just starts farting on you while yelling HOHO STINKY
>>537130884There's no Christian God in Pathfinder, your Christian catechism doesn't apply there.
>>537125448Really doesn't make sense. It would seem easier to stay pounding on some drums all the time than staying supernaturally mad all the time.
>>537130884Demons are dead people sent to a (temporary) afterlife fitting the life they lived before they are finally judged by God. They can and have been redeemed, even if it is unlikely for them to do so. Everyone has free will in the end.
>>537131101Christianity is true everywhere, even in fictional settings.
>>537131235>Demons are dead people sent to a (temporary) afterlife fitting the life they lived before they are finally judged by GodSource: Thomas Aquinas' ass
>>537131101There's Shelyn, and we see where that kind of sentiment gets you even in the first Sosiel companion quest.
>>537131235>Everyone has free will in the end.Angels and demons don't >They do in Pathfinder Sorry, my faith makes it impossible for me to separate my christian beliefs from the fiction I engage with
>>537122715That's the most important audience of all thoughbeit...
>>537127629people are pussies and devs usually hinder evil playthroughs by giving them severe penalties
>>537123094Yes and yes.
>That said, there are still many such cases of pic related.I see, yesEmbarrassing post for an embarrassing opinionYou should probably leave and pretend this never happened
>>537118619Completely agree
>>537107109What was Galfrey like in the tabletop?
unpopular opinion but economic tension in the form of having very little gold/currency and having to ration your resources would make every fantasy/space rpg better
>>537120724What if pick Iconotrader options so my workers are happy and healthy so they can work harder, longer and make more money for me?
>>537129016>If the KC found some random Dretch sleeping somewhere, would he reasonably leave him alone because "what is he gonna do, wake up and punch me with his little retarded arms?"I mean I also paid Meatball 30k gold to have Suture freed, if that's what you're alluding to.
>>537127629Vast majority of people play all cRPG, aRPG and other similar games incorrectly. They never roleplay, they self-insert instead. They don't settle on a character they want to play like a religious zealot or a ruthless mercenary devoid of conscience. They pick whatever look they want (might be infamous Thiefling even) and then just pick options they think are "correct" and nice, leading to "the best" endings, choosing something they think they would do in any situation.Even with 40k game, in this general, people keep arguing about a "correct" choice to any quest, which is retarded and completely antithetical to an RPG approach.
>>537136063I'm roleplaying myself if my soul and consciousness were suddenly transported into a different world and body.
>>537130884Christian demons are fallen angels, aren't they? It should be pretty obvious that they can achieve unity with God. Like, they used to have it.
>>537130912>Logically the KC should let her out maybe 5% of timesExcept you cannot come up with a single logical argument for why anyone shouldn't. If you were arguing that you shouldn't accept her into your party later, then you might have a case, but letting her out of the cell?All the available evidence points towards her telling the truth. The risks and cost of letting her out are negligible. It's obvious if you approach the situation rationally.
>>537135523The Dogmatic cannot comprehend only picking [alignment] choices some of the time.
The iconclast cucks fear the heretic chads
>>537136063>They never roleplay, they self-insert instead.I wouldn't even call what most of those people are doing self-inserting, since that still implies some kind of roleplay (just involving far less imagination than an actual thinking human).
>>537137378no bro the demons are playing 4d chess putting this succubus spy in a jail cell, because they totally expected a rag tag group and their mythically supercharged leader appearing out of nowhere and beating their asses
>>537136714Angels fall, demons don't ascend. Well I guess in Pathfinder that's not true, even Nocticula turned into a good girl.
>>537135183Unpopular? I think most agree that colony management in RT is so devoid of strategy or decision-making that it basically plays itself. There is no shortage of anything, and the only factor that holds you back is time while you wait for projects to be completed or to stumble upon a resource deposit to place an extractum on. There isn't even any decision-making about where to deploy your extractums since the game gives you far more than you will ever need.
>>537131101sarenrae is pretty close
>>537137378>single logical argument for why anyone shouldn'tIt's a demon, alive and well in a demon-infested city where only evil demons live because any semblance of goodness was eviscerated and hung from the city walls.>The risks and cost of letting her out are negligible.But there's no risks nor costs for killing her right on the spot either, like you killed hundreds of demons beforehand.>It's obvious if you approach the situation rationally.It really is not: I can promise you that if it was a random portraitless Schir in that jail, the enormous majority of people (you included) would have no qualms butchering him.You're obviously biased, and that's ok, but let's not pretend you're making any logical sense from a purely KC perspective>>537137806Considering the whole deal of succubi is exploiting and tricking people, one pretending to be in trouble in the hopes of seducing some sweetheart crusader passing by isn't far-fetched at all.>"but that's a retarded plan, it would never work"Same applies to the one in Regill's quest; see what I mean?
>>537138831Portraits are basically involuntary metagaming but there's no obvious fix. Perhaps they should remain blank until after the first major decision involving the character.
Shhhh... Heheheheh.
>>537138831>one pretending to be in trouble in the hopes of seducing some sweetheart crusader passing by isn't far-fetched at allIt seems pretty far-fetched given the context (an ongoing assault of the city), and it actually seems more likely there might be an unusual reason for her being in that cell.
can any CRPG top this song and THE moment in game? https://youtu.be/m2OR_JaXDaMThe closest for me is DoS2 and end boss with this theme https://youtu.be/o2Vk71RaVmU
>>537138831>It's a demon, alive and well in a demon-infested city where only evil demons live because any semblance of goodness was eviscerated and hung from the city walls.That's not a logical argument, it's a moral one. Possibly even emotional.>But there's no risks nor costs for killing her right on the spot eitherThat's... demonstrably untrue, you lose an ally. Like, you don't know in character that she's going to be a party member, but you DO know that she's been leaking intelligence to Kenabres, if you did the Desna priest quest.>It really is not: I can promise you that if it was a random portraitless Schir in that jail, the enormous majority of people (you included) would have no qualms butchering him.By "random" do you mean one with no dialogue that outs the Schir as a Desna worshiper that's already been assisting the Crusade? Because that's kind of a distinctive feature for a demon.There actually are other enemies you can doom or spare. A wounded succubus in the cave where you first arrive to the Abyss. That healer who asks you to let a cultist go. For me, Hal passed the vibe check and I spared the cultist since he asked, but the succubus didn't. I guess it's true that I'm showing preference for characters that seem plot-relevant, but I also generally talk to enemies whenever possible and give them a chance to plead their case. Arueshalae has a better case than most.
Lore question. If my Rogue Trader was good at engineering and built something interesting and new (even if it wasnt a game changer) will Pasqal shoot me in the back of the head for tech heresy or does the warrant of trade also protect me for me from that?
>>537142229Depends on what it is. Artificial intelligence is a shot in the back of the head without a doubt. But given you can cavort with xenos when everyone else is supposed to shoot them on sight, you can probably get away with anything else. The limiting factor is that if you piss off the tech-priests to the extent that they refuse to tend to your ship then you are probably doomed.
>>537138831>Considering the whole deal of succubi is exploiting and tricking people, one pretending to be in trouble in the hopes of seducing some sweetheart crusader passing by isn't far-fetched at all.What's the trick, though? You keep glossing over this because you really have no case. There's nothing Arueshalae can do, let out of her cage, that all the other succubi in the city who aren't in cages can't already do.
How do I get away from party dynamic in WOTR where I'm really just babysitting my buffbots (half the team)?
How do you Sneed?
>>537127629It's not about people not wanting to be evil. It's about it being badly written in most games. In RT, BG3 as recent big crpg examples, the evil path is objectively shittier, outside of some edgy/wacky gruesome ways to kill people. Heretic especially as it's immersion breaking to act that way in the open and not get blammed even as a rogue trader.
>>537144457Your question is too vague. Tell us in detail what you're doing and what you're trying to avoid.If you're just looking for braindead general advice then have Daeren unlock the nature domain and spam creeping doom to flood the map with swarms that turn every fight into a breeze.
>>537142229That's generally not how the Cult Mechanicus operates. Even if you were to commit some tech-heresy so obscene that they could no longer justify working with you, their first response would probably be to just stop working with you. Have all the magi aboard your ship pack up and leave, refuse all future cooperation, see if you're a good enough engineer to do warp drive maintenance by yourself.
>I may be a murderer but I would never be hecking transphobic or racist chud
>>537140853Succubi don't enjoy fighting directly, they don't belong on the city walls or beating people in the streets; their whole shtick is feeling good about themselves for tempting poor dudes>her being in that cellAlderpash (and the Ashen Lady?) was also imprisoned by demons. Surely that makes him a paragon of virtue?>>537141918>That's not a logical argument, it's a moral one. Possibly even emotional.It's the argument any sane KC would make, in the spur of the moment. You can rely empty sophisms all you want, but it doesn't change the substance.>you lose an allyMy dear anon, YOU know it's an ally and YOU know she's relevant because she has a portrait and a ton of dialogue options. Nobody in their right mind would consider the evil demon in the evil demon city to be "a potential ally". Should we spare Minagho too in case she pinky swears she'll behave this time? She'd make for a GREAT ally, I think! As I've already said, the Desna quest applies to a relative minority of KCs (even smaller if you consider the two extra encounters) and you don't have to be as retarded as Hulrun to suspect muh demonic intervention: we're shown tons of examples of demons betraying each other and foiling each others' plans, but that doesn't make them good, does it?>>537143251Any/all of the following, and many more>Gaining the trust of the one dude that has been able to do accomplish anything for the first time in centuries>Escaping from jail for crimes she committed against demonkind>Sucking your dickinb4 they're retarded plansYes, and demons are shown to come up with tons of those, so what?
>>537144457Turn down the difficulty and just stop casting buffs.
>>537144457Play Kineticist with Deadly Earth, you'll one shot everything before combat starts
Surprised no one has posted a screencap of Windsong saying "More than friendship can transcend through races" when referring to Vila.
>>537145059>It's the argument any sane KC would make, in the spur of the moment.I asked for a logical argument, and you failed to provide one. If you want to roleplay someone who does his thinking with his sword and never reads the dialogue, that's your own business.>YOU know it's an ally and YOU know she's relevant because she has a portrait and a ton of dialogue options.No, I know it's an ally because she's been sending visions to the priests of Desna in Kenabres, warning them of the imminent attack.>Should we spare Minagho too in case she pinky swears she'll behave this time?>As I've already said, the Desna quest applies to a relative minority of KCsIf you're going to pretend you don't understand the argument, don't reveal on the next line that you actually do.
>>537127629This may come as a shock but people like to play what they feel is most fun. Being a dick to everyone isn't really fun for most people. How interesting or fun it is to play a character that follows a philosophy of say a Hellknight over a Paladin and how well they can get into the mind of that sort of character in a knowledgable and believable way has more to do with the writer than the player. People here think they're above self inserting when most of their dialogue choices are barebones flavor text at best>Go get the widgetVs>Go get the widget sarcastically (it's okay, I have a tail, I'm unique)
I won't let you hurt my friends
>>537146901Aerie...
when I'm playing an evil character, faced with an evil choice, I don't think "yeah that's what I want to do" I think instead, "yeah that is what this bastard would do".I can also, believe it or not, enjoy fiction where the MC isn't some pure lawful good type.To not be able to distinguish the two is a sign of lower cognitive functioning. I suppose it shouldn't be surprising though, we live in the clown world where people sent Jack Gleeson angry hateful and threatening emails because of the actions of Joffrey.
Didn't ask
>>537144901Yeah but what counts as tech heresy? Like in the context of my question. If RT (hell could be anyone thats at of least decently important rank) makes their own lasgun variant that fires 5% harder than a standard one at the same charge and production cost does that count as tech heresy because they made a later day addition to existing "perfect" tech rather than finding the STC for 5% better lasguns?
icy take
>>537146285You can't just ignore the rest of my post like that, anon-kun, it makes you look really bad.You are repeatedly shown, from the second you reach the Defender's Heart, that treachery and trust are dangerous and that thousands of lives have been lost because of them, and you're telling me you'd instinctually trust any word coming out of the mouth of this one being (whose race is widely known to be especially treacherous and deceitful)?Imagine this exact scenario in a TTRPG campaign, with the sudden encounter of a succubus in a random cell begging for mercy because "She's different, TRUST her"; you'd probably laugh your DM out of the room.So we've clearly and logically established that non-Desnan KCs would never free Arue, outside of retardation or actions led by one's peepee.>But what about the ones that did that questline and heard of these dudes getting these supposed visions?It's addressed and explained multiple times that demons fuck over each other for no good reason, why would a random succubus warning the hippies of the imminent attack change anything? In-universe, Hulrun even clearly tells you that those visions could easily be demonic in nature, are you sure the Desnans passed a will check for mind-control spells? You only get two visions of your own, and there's no indication they may come from Desna at allWith this, we've established that a Desnan KC could reasonably choose to trust her, but it's far from an immediate choiceBack to my original point from 6 hours ago: people playing a KC character would rarely if ever trust the evil demon trapped in the evil demon city, and people (like (you) or me) only choose to do it for other, non RP-related reasons.Hope you've stayed with me the whole way thru, anon
Another RT question: How bad is the process of becoming a harleyquin? Is it a total ego death kinda thing or do they remember before?
>>537148503The only tech heresy that really matters is AI. The rest of the whole AdMech lore is really just a subtle joke about how the Imperium is so decrepit and fossilised that no one understands how any of this ancient technology works anymore, and just like Janet at the office they interpret the behaviour they don't understand as a literal moody ghost in the machine and just pray that it keeps working. Don't think too much about it.Most of 40k lore is like this. The reason nu-40k is so unbearable is that GW forgot this and started trying to take it all too seriously in order to appeal to children raised on the Star Wars prequel trilogy.
>>537149369>The only tech heresy that really matters is AI. letting people on Kiava Gamma invent anything at all is the single largest +Heresy in the game
>>537147839This isn't a show or a book though, but an interactive form of media. Why are you playing this evil bastard unless you want to act out some desire, at least be honest and say that you do. You're coming off like "I'm doing something I don't really want to do but its real and true roleplaying and therefore I'm better than you". It makes no sense.
>>537149617You have no faculty of imagination and I feel sorry for you.
>>537148731Depends on how hard your skull is. The way Clown college works is that they keep throwing pies at your face to build up resistance to She Who Thirsts
>>537145059>Escaping from jail for crimes she committed against demonkindThat's not a trick, that's literally what she says she's trying to do.>Sucking your dickShe's not asking to suck your dick.>Gaining the trust of the one dude that has been able to do accomplish anything for the first time in centuriesThis is the interesting one, because that would be a good trick, but also one that demons seem to be mentally incapable of pursuing.You can imagine a sequence where Arue asks you to do a small favour for her (open this door), and leans on this familiarity to ask for a larger favour (kill this hag) and finally worms her way into your party, feigning repentance all the while. That would be really shrewd. But nowhere else in the game does any demon display that kind of capacity for forethought and understanding of human psychology.Like, look at the other succubus, from Regill's quest. That one says she's going to "surrender" and give you "valuable intelligence", but instead of actually surrendering she's asking you to take her somewhere private so she can succ your dick. It's completely transparent. It's like she heard about Arue switching sides, but genuinely doesn't understand WHY it worked for her.The side of the Abyss does have complex plots, but they're always driven by mortal cultists. Nurah can act nice and plan to betray you later, but there's no demon who ever does that. Wenduag, with her 5 CHA, tells a more convincing lie than Regill's succubus. The demons don't seem to understand even the most basic forms of emotional manipulation, like showing someone kindness to get them to do something for you. I think at least some of it is deliberate, on part of the writers. That kind of thinking is just beyond them.Anyway, it's not really a reason to not let Arue out of her cell. A reason not to trust her going forward, sure, but even if she was capable of that kind of subterfuge, you don't need to keep her in the jail to counter it.
>>537148698>Back to my original point from 6 hours ago: people playing a KC character would rarely if ever trust the evil demon trapped in the evil demon cityNot that anon but one point that hasn't been brought up is that its very unclear or left open what the KC even remembers. You're making it out like there's only either a total Desnan hippie KC or a cold, rational, perfect military commander KC and nothing in between. I could imagine a lot of potential KC's that would at least keep an open mind about it, after all they're not actually experienced crusaders and wouldn't necessarily have their biases.
>see demon>kill demonThis is as far as you need to rationalise it for 90% of RP choices. The game literally tells you that you shouldn't trust anything a demon says. Simple as. Now can we please direct our autism toward more pressing matters?
>>537149831There's nothing wrong with my imagination, the difference is that I can unironically say that whether I'm playing an evil warlock or an ascending angel, they're both to some degree "literally me". If you don't think that makes any kind of sense then its you who is lacking in imagination.
>>537150745but what if i came to the worldwound to fuck demons?
>>537150745t. Frieren
no other girl can inspire such heated debate, that's why she is the best
It seems the devs added more cutscenes to the base game. I also notice everytime someone flirts with Yrliet its a dyke and every single time Yrliert kills them for it. Why are eldar so homophobic?
>>537151774>Why are eldar so homophobic?LGBTQ caused Slaanesh
>>537151748Built for love.
>>537151748she creeps me out desu
>>537153006>Unironically stalks people for fun and invades their dreamsShe IS creepy.
>I missed one of Cassia's romance flags on CommoraghFML
>>537153240>gets forcibly ascended as punishment for disrespecting dream goddess>continues invading people's dreamsb-based?
Why can't you rape before you kill women? Why would you waste perfectly good pussy before sating your male cravings?
>>537151889Sucks to be born at the time its happening in the actual world too. The LGBTQ egregore must be nearing its full Slaanesh state any day now.
>>537150698My rationalization was that Arushelae was wearing a hat in her cell and my KC couldn't see her horns
>>537035457How does that dreamsleeve afterlife part fit in with Alduin and the Dragonborn litetally walking to the afterlife?
Imagine if we got an Elder Scrolls CRPG...
>>537150698I obviously build my argument based on the assumption that the KC is a blank slate that reacts and thinks based on what he's seen since the game started (non-stop demonic ass rape)The overwhelming presence of non-stop demonic ass rape would lead me to believe that by Drezen the KC would have developed at least SOME biases against demons (especially considering the Chapel is presented as an extremely traumatic experience that hurts even an experience crusader like Irabeth)>>537150249>She's trying to get out of jail because of crimes she committed against demonkindSo was Alderpash. And again, my response was to "Why would she ever just ask you to let her out of her cell, what could she have to gain?"; I'm not saying my provided examples are her actual reasoning, just possible ones.Cannon-fodder demons are retarded, but that doesn't mean their entire army is; Cumticula and her clique are clearly shown to be extremely capable in the ways of manipulation, and I'm sure they're smart enough to figure out how kindness works. If Arue was a member of Cumticula's SEAL Team Six equivalent, KCs all over the world would be fucking screwed
>>537157691>The overwhelming presence of non-stop demonic ass rape would lead me to believe that by Drezen the KC would have developed at least SOME biases against demonsSure, some, but logically nothing that would completely rule out trusting this particular succubus.>that hurts even an experience crusader like IrabethLets be real though, the more we delve into lore and writing to support either of our arguments the more its gonna fall apart since the writing is all over the place. Irabeth is the most dogshit useless Paladin and military commander ever depicted in a game, and that's saying something with Seelah in the cast. Never mind Anevia, a spymaster obviously dreamed up by someone who has no clue what a spymaster is.
>>537148698>You are repeatedly shown, from the second you reach the Defender's Heart, that treachery and trust are dangerous and that thousands of lives have been lost because of themNot really? Kind of the opposite, really. Hulrun is shown to be a paranoid wretch who tried to burn Ember at a stake and is now undermining the defence of Kenabres by hunting innocent people, because he can't admit he was wrong. The only treachery I remember from early on is Wenduag's, and she's not particularly subtle. You might have suspicions about Camellia, but she never properly betrays you.>and you're telling me you'd instinctually trust any word coming out of the mouth of this one being (whose race is widely known to be especially treacherous and deceitful)?No. Fuck's sake, why do I even bother? No anon, I'm not telling you that I'd instinctively trust a succubus. I'm telling you that her story checks out. Her testimony is consistent with the evidence. If you were thorough and didn't skip the Desna quest in Kenabres, you can figure out that Arueshalae is telling the truth. How is this so fucking hard for you? Why do you keep coming back to this with the shallowest possible takes? Like, there's another woman pretending to be a prisoner in Drezen, and that one is actually evil. Is there something to compare or contrast here? I guess not.
>>537157691Nocticula, the Demon Lord who's on the verge of becoming a Chaotic Good goddess of artists and exiles, is capable in the ways of manipulation. Really makes you think. Almost like the narrative's got a bit of a theme going on.
Obsidian=playboi carti Owlcat=osamason
You pathfinder babies are STILL talking about alignments?
another perfect day for playing more of my favorite CRPG, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.
>>537160292What's the last quest you completed?
>>537160292Skyrim is not a CRPG, because it has no alignment system.
>>537160958What are you talking about? There's Vampire (Good) and Dawnguard (Evil).
>>537160292Skyrim's not a crpg because it doesn't have ending slides.
Argenta is a little bit to interested in kids, I not leaving that nun alone with them.
>>537161321It's okay when women do it tho
Expiditions Rome anon herei did actually manage to beat the "impossible" fight without the overpowered Reaping Spear, barraging and versatile swapping Bowman is actually pretty strong also Veles being able to oneshot people with all in is pretty gud, shame i didn't build Calida that way, i just about edged it with the last guy dying of posion on the turn reinforcements showed up which somehow counted as a winabsolute bastard of a fight though
>>537148698Dashcam vids did unimaginable damage to my perception of american drivers
>>537161321Clearly a reference to Asia Argento
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>>537084054>new game>ask if the game is bg or if it's skyrim>anon doesnt understand>pull out illustrated diagram of what is Baldur's Gate and what is Skyrim>he laughs and says "it's a good crpg sir!">boot it up>it's skyrim
>>537162024Jimmy knew how to secure the bag. Respect.
>>537161782Genuinely no clue what you mean>>537158651>The only treachery I rememberThere's crusaders turning over to the other side right in front of your eyes, there's the Red Morning Massacre, there's Nurah and also that whole Staunton business you may have heard of.(you) are telling me that her story checks out, but the majority of KCs (that didn't do the entire Desna thingy) would have no way of knowing this (and yet they spare her); and even if the succubus IS telling the truth, there's a thousand reasons not to trust her, as I've already explained plenty of times above. You seem to be missing the logical step where a demonic creature known for lying and manipulation being truthful ONCE doesn't mean she stops being a demonic creature known for lying and manipulation! My point has to be reiterated: people don't actually "play" their KC because if they did, they would have plenty of reasons to nip this rose in the bud (with a large hammer to the head). I don't doubt that (you) and (your) KC are the most Desnan beings to exist on this green Earth, but there's reason to believe that a sizeable amount of people trust the beast despite not even knowing what a Desna is, just because her portrait is hot.>>537158523>I have learned to hate and mistrust all demons EXCEPT for this one, just because :DBut obviously you're right, I was just making a point about something else before being engaged by the AIDF
If we're entering a sci-fi IP era where's the X-Men CRPG.
>>537166423>That rim rolling awayPEAK COMEDY>>537167204They'd sooner make an MMO desu.
>>537134594>take the game version>make her deal with the homm stuff instead of the pc>constant direct support instead of proxies like the kitsune>remove the insecurity about being relevant>instead of "banishing" you to the abyss, she joins your party at that point>wants to stay queen and start a family instead of ditching the role
>>537167204why is this bad againi feel like a kid who can turn into cyanide gas or shit black holes should be tracked unless they're living innawoods away from others
>>537167204an X-men crpg in with xaivers mansion/academy being the home base would be too kino for this shitty timeline
My favourite part about this whole arue argument is that her redemption comes from a ttrpg campaign
>>537168558To make the protagonist the only hope Xavier himself would have to be imprisoned or neutralized somehow so he can only telepathically judge your choices at the end of the game. If there's some Xavier/Magneto/Senator Kelly morality meter.>>537168091It probably never stops at registration and leads to conscription like a worse selective service.
>>537168558You want an x-com game for this
>>537167204impossible in a timeline where Magneto became this holocaust survivor figure
>>537171153The Jewish """"parallels"""" just ruin things really.>Ummm he knows about oppression because he experienced the Holocaust>He's now going to take revenge on everyone>He thinks he's the master race now
>>537154338She didn't get punished for invading people's dreams, invading that priestesses' dream just put her in range of Desna's punishment. It's like the whole "no direct intervention in the material plane" thing for gods, by invading the dream Arueshalae got right inside of Desna's domain, and at that point the rule doesn't factor in anymore and Desna can just do whatever she wants to her.
[Lawful Good] Xavier, it's actually mankind who is evil so actually I'm being moral in genociding the inferior humans you understand don't you Xavier we are the future they are the past (Attack)
Lore question. At the time the Rogue Trader game starts has Roboute G woken up from his coma yet?
>>537171631Crazy plot twist where the US government is writing checks to Magneto for $3 billion every year.
>>537171631>>537168091The whole X-Men narrative has always been kind of a failure in serving as an allegory because it tries to present these comparisons to jews, gays, blacks or whatever, except none of those groups had fucking uncontrollable superpowers that could kills hundreds because of a big sneeze. Made even dumber by how the most radical of the mutants end up flipping the script and declaring themselves the trve evolved humans and the real master race. You end up with ridiculously stupid scenes like Storm, who gets to control electricity and be a borderline goddess, saying they have nothing to be ashamed of and their powers are a gift that the humies are just jealous of... to fucking Rogue. Who kills anything she touches, against her will, and has had her life ruined by her power.
>>537172350People aren't even aware why are they so cut off from the Calixis lately. Cadia probably just blew up so no, no gorillaman yet
>>537172691>he doesn’t know about gay superpowers
>>537172350Isn't the big fuck you barrier you can't pass a the south of the map supposed to be the Cicatrix Maledictum? Because if it is, then yeah, Bobby is awake.
>>537171631The alternative would make him the most reviled villain possible: a white man with extremist views. Which of course aren't really extremist but common sense, in a world where mutants exist glowies would be all over their asses and so it would be in their own interest to organize and strike first.
>>537168558>>537171052guys... play midnight suns... please... the ghost of firaxis is begging you
>>537172691x-men are whites. very small minority the whole world has to stop from reproducing despite them saving the world multiple times and making it better just because magneto got a lil out of control so now they cant have a mutant only state
>>537173154inshallahxcom will be avenged
>>537173154I did
>>537171631Until the boomer executives literally die off, only then will it be safely woke to depict Genosha the rogue ethnostate committing genocide against the flatscans who were living in Magneto's Lebensraum.
>>537174996why would israeleto be a problem for removing those terrorists for gaza after they killed mutants on october 7th?
What are some crpgs where I can use a whip? Hard mode: the whip is a viable weapon choice
>>537175959Terraria.
>>537175959Don't know of any.Why would you want to? Whips have never been and likely will never be weapons.
>>537175959battle brothersbatman arkham city
>>537176124>Whips>No, lol it's for the (slave) Summoner classThank you Red.
>Yrl*et calls humans animals>I call her a animal back and she gets mad Its okay when I'm a chud, but not you uh huh
>>537178001That is typically how chuds operate.
I put a photo of Yrliet in my wallet so I can remember how angry I am
Will we get tons of newfags cause Mandalore will review age of decadence
Yrliet's racism is completely understandable. Imagine if a disgusting chimpanzee started speaking the human language (this is the premise of Planet of the Apes, a really stupid movie) and started entertaining the idea you two were equal and perhaps even compatible partners. Would you not feel sick?
>>537179764Yes, I am still mad that I can't romance Nenio.
>>537179714>TonsWarlockracy has already covered it twice and I'm certain the venn diagram's close to a circle here.
>>537179764Depends how anthropomorphic, I'm not a furry but if we're talking something like a cute enough catgirl I'm game.>>537180026It really is a fucking crime.
Disco Elysium is the only game where you're rewarded for playing your character regardless of whether doing so result in success or failure.Failing a chain of rolls in that game doesn't result in a worse experience. In fact the shenanigans that ensue as a result can often lead to more mechanically rewarding and entertaining outcomes.Prime example. If you try to run away to skip out on paying your bills then you can trip and crash into a lady in a wheelchair. Not only is this hilarious but the hotel manager actually feels so bad for you he reduces your debt. If instead you succeed in running away then you miss out on all that dialogue and you still owe all the money.
Wow, Tristian is so wise and noble and generous.
>>537181759It's barely a video game. It's basically like playing a choose your own adventure book where the author desperately wants you to get to the end.
>>537181759>where you're rewarded for playing your character regardless of whether doing so result in success or failure.Ehhh even in your example there's a clear win/loss scenario there. Pretty sure this affects a check later on too. Though if you're referring different scenarios as the reward then yeah sure, I guess it counts.
>>537175304Everyone knows Israeleto has been secretly funding the only pro-human party in the region this whole time.
>>537179714no one knows who is efaggot #3847474 is but this is an owlslopper general. they would go to rpgcodex (game made by former staffer)
>>537182714>pretending you don't know who Mandalore isCome on now.
thats the show fat reddit hags watched right
>>537183083I don’t touch any gayming stuff on youtube
*drops vape*brooo you dead ass are gonna cap you didnt peep niggerfagot420. im crashed out
>>537183083Not that anon but feels good to see a name like that and genuinely not know who it is. I can only imagine its either some tranny monstrosity or a "totally based" grifter.
>>537181759Yes and in that respect it's closest to the TTRPG experience, where the job of the DM is to make sure the players have fun regardless of how the dice roll. The dice are there to provide uncertainty and excitement, and not to serve as a barrier to entry for dialogue or events the DM had in mind. This is one of the fundamental flaws with CRPGs - they want the dice roll mechanics without the DM to adapt the experience on the fly.The solution is either to put a massive amount of writing work in to recapture the tabletop experience as in Disco Elysium, or to build your game entirely around risk management as in XCOM.
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>>537185962>edited in "... Low quality posts about romances or 'waifus' should be ignored and reported.">didn't do a single thing about the alphabetized game titles >>537092719 >>537092876
>>537186371>>edited in "... Low quality posts about romances or 'waifus' should be ignored and reported."OP vandals are so pathetic lol
>>536979579asoiaf is dead in the water because anything they make will be based on the tv series. even all the replies itt used images from the show to represent the setting
>>537186371why would i change my own edit?
>>537058538>>537122556>>537161475Men status: Crushed.
>>537167832>"banishing" you to the abyssConceptually the same as Yrliet sending you to Cumrag Owlcat seem to like this trope
>>537154686because raping a fictional computer generated woman is just as bad as raping a real person and encourages real rape. Now excuse me, I have a zoophilia cutscene to watch in my video game about torturing and killing people
>>537186596Because you didn't initially notice Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy is simply the wrong order compared to Warhammer 40,000: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader since it's such an easy oversight.
>>537171052>x-men-comThis sounds like an openxcom mod that should exist but doesn't.
>>537186597MOMMY
>>537172949That's the Maw, but the game takes place concurrently with the opening of the rift anyway
>>537176139They're cool
>>537175959cybepunk2077
