arue edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy, Wasteland and many others. Low quality posts about romances or 'waifus' should be ignored and reported.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>536974438>Thread QuestionWhat is the hierarchy of qualities for an rpg (i.e. story>gameplay>atmosphere)
Reminder that Imoen loves you
Blessed edition.>TQGameplay first, because its a game. If the gameplay loop isn't fun and the mechanics aren't interesting then why shouldn't I just read a book or watch a show instead. Story and atmosphere are tied up for me, story doesn't have to be perfect if the atmosphere is right.
>>537186338>gameplay loopThis term belongs in arpgs and assorted skinner boxes, not rpgs. If you start talking about "gameplay loops" like a rat in a cage, you're not immersing yourself in the rpg.
Romances.Waifus.
CRPGs should have intricate rape and pregnancy mechanics like RPGmaker porn games
name the crpg
>>537187212This is a high quality post, which means it can't be reported. I didn't make the rules.
>>537187265True. I'd love a proper erotic game
>>537184716He's just a normal person who reviews games and has reviewed both Kingmaker and WOTRYou're definitely not projecting tho
CRPGs should have cute little girl party members instead of old hags
>>537186926>immersing yourself in the rpgWe're not all 300lb losers who have to play the game in 8 hour gooning increments
>>537188134That's infringing on JRPG territory.
>>537188240If you like instant gratification and gameplay loops, you need to fuck off to one of the 40 gacha generals on /vg/ right now.
>>537188398FF9 is better than every CRPG so they should rip it off instead of rehashing bald millenial biowareslop
>>537187265That only makes sense if between Acts a generation passes and control passes to one of your sons for the next adventure against the same immortal threat to your bloodline.
>>537188649not if magic and fantasy races facilitate quick gestation and maturing
Man, Cassia really does actually have a pretty banging body, doesn't she?
>>537188559I can accept rehashed slop but I draw the line at being accused of being bald.
>>537191563need the meme of the guy completely missing the point and going "wow big tiddy alien gf"
>>537191563Slight hint of nipple on her boobplate
>>537192121need the meme of the soijak with the media literacy award
>>537191563I hate how only she gets these illustrations. Game devs stop giving the "main" waifu the most attention.
>>537192772>you'll never have a beach day off with marzipanWhy live
>>537192772Huge lack of alternate illustrations for everyone besides Cassia. Argenta deserved a segment on her own in her quest ship.
Knife life with the knife wife, killing enemies of humanity while holding hands
>>537194287She's not real anon and you need to get laid.
>>537192121But there are so many of those.
>>537190267lel
>>537194287please die
>>537194287cute kibbers
>>537196510That which has no life or self respect can never truly die
>>537185910How many meatballs did she gargle?
Windows 11 update somehow made it so that my cursor on bg2 alone constantly flickers and has that blue buffering circle. What the fuck.
>>537188649There's room for choices and optimization here: do you cuck your companion in Act 1 and knock up his girl, or do you let him have a daughter recruitable in Act 2 so his magical bloodline mixes with yours when you get her knocked up with your grandson.
>>537195764
>>537196971Why not both
>>537195764>>537197305
>>537196876everyone in the lower city, at the very least
I love hags!
>waste a Rogue talent for the chance to use 1 (uno) cantrip (but worse in every way)This was modded in just for the sake of completeness with Tabletop where being able to throw even a bit of magic around can be useful, r-right? Because I cannot think of a single use case for this, I just can't
>>537204517Disrupt Undead is quite strong for low levels, so if you're doing like only the first part of the side campaign DLC maybe it could be justified.In tabletop it's really strong obviously because non-combat utility is very fucking good.
How much longer until solasta 2
i hate how in Pathfinder you can't program your shitters to not run into battle with their fists like retards if they run out of whatever spell they have set on autocast
>>537197305Not /vg/ but still
>>537194287Chaos kibbles is actually pretty based
>>537204941What will you pretend to shill when it’s out
>>537212391Solasta 3
>>537212391>pretendI just like dnd kino, im also excited for the secret of weepstone.
>>537212391we are all looking forward to dink smallwood 2 here in /crpgg/
Solasta 2 will mog owlslop.
Million dollar crpg idea; the wheel of time.
new crpg idea: you kiss dollies in a medieval fantasy setting
>>537219804Ck2 already exists
CRPG idea: dollies romance YOU
>>537222336Jaheira does this in BG2. She's very bossy.
>>537222336Daeran did that already
CRPG idea: you take your meds
CRPG idea: most dialogue actions shift your alignment very slightly but they're not obviously [Evil] or [Communist] or [Iconoclast] tagged
[Lawful] (Angry) BY WHAT RIGHT DOES A WOLF JUDGE A LION? BY WHAT RIGHT?
>>537181759That's true. We need more failed rolls to not be just strictly bad. Punishes the metagame of savescumming too
>>537224002How does it punish?
Fallout is my favourite rtwp game
>>537224002NTA, but the thing is you're still better off just making the roll.The reality is CRPGs have the perfect solution presented already: simply don't tell the player there was a roll. Similar in practice to pre-rolled perceptions or passive perception on tabletop, the most effective way to reduce metagaming is to simply obfuscate what's happening from the player(s). If the dialogue options are rolled before showing up, you don't see the grayed out "[Charisma] Join me!" or the "[Failed] I'd never join scum like you!"You just try it and get a result with no idea there even was chance involved, or aren't even presented the option in the first place.
>>537222670Whenever I replay wotr I tell myself I'm not going to romance daeran this time and every time I end up picking up every one of his flags. he's too goddamn charming (and the bantz are really fun)
Why would you ever play anything other than magic deceiver
>>537224332Just make dialog options deterministic (gated behind a high enough stat), and combat related things secretly random.>>537224362So you've mentioned.
>>537224678Jokes on you I know all the stat checks and reloaded to plan the perfect playthrough
>>537224362based he's the best
>>537224096Because they might miss out on funny stuff if they always reroll to "win"
>>537185910I'm enjoying Rogue Trader much more than I thought I would. Does the game get much harder? I've been playing on unfair, currently at Footfall. I think the difficulty has been perfect so far
>>537224789There are definitely psychos that will hook into the game to see any of those rolls lol
>>537225101I think it gets easier as the game goes on when your build starts kicking in
>>537225101Pretty steady difficulty if your builds are working smoothly, with a few surprisingly hard boss fights, especially on unfair Remember you can respec by talking to Janris Danrok on the bridge and asking for training.
>>537225108If a game has stat checks there's a 99% chance there's going to be a guide listing every single check.
>>537225430That's different because you have to actively look it up
>>537225228>>537225386Kibellah feels like cheating. She just jumps around making rape on everyone.
You WILL give uppies, and you WILL look happy.
>>537225736Yeah she is cheating a bit I prefer not to use her to her full potential because Death From Above is too powerful, but I do upgrade that ability so I have it if I want it.Occasionally if I'm getting annoyed by a boss I'll let her go all out and use her Heroic Ability to chew up whomever is bothering me.Sister Argenta is also very powerful if you build up her burst damage, particularly as an Arch Militant
>>537225736Yeah her class is broken so I picked it too
xp leveling makes no fucking sense when you think about itcharacters don't level up after defeating an arbitrary amount of goblins and trash encountersthey level up when it makes narrative sense, like defeating a boss or completing a dungeon
>>537224678Players would dislike this because they enjoy seeing the effects of their stats.
Finally, something that might make me feel something.This half-wit was drunkenly proposing marriage to a 23-year-old at the beginning of the game. He's perfect.
>>537226967Gaining experience from actively doing something is just how every single skill worksHow does it not make sense
>>537227902no that's not even how it works in real lifeyou level up as a fighter after every pro fight, not by hitting the sandbag a million times like it's an MMO treadmill
>>537228372realistically it's both, you can't become a better soldier without training before a battle youre just gonna die
>>537228372Gonna go sign up for a fight so I can hopefully crit and then instantly become a pro fighter when I win irl
>>537227361You do need a big colorful label on the deterministically-enabled dialog option to make it feel earned.
>>537185910Reminder that she has MASSIVE mammaries, each bigger than her head.
>>537228683Even losing is logically fairly educational. But you don't get XP from lost fights.I guess you do get advancement in Kenshi.
Is there any other dnd crpgs besides solasta 2 and weep stone coming out soon?
you havent even played the existing dnd rpgsyou didnt even play toeefucking zoom
>>537231141Meds.
>>537230865There is that pathfidner figurine aesthetics game, I guess?
Is starfinder rtwp or turn based?
>>537186926Its much more mixed up with narrative and immersive than an ARPG, but there's still a similar thing going on. You're killing monsters, finishing quests, exploring dungeons for loot so that you can kill more monsters, access more quests, explore harder dungeons. Nothing wrong with that and ultimately it breaks the loop by having a story that actually (hopefully) goes somewhere and gives a sense of conclusion unlike those online Skinner boxes.
>>537225796Gets me every time, its why in WOTR I can never be evil and no matter what party composition I have it must include Ember (which is frustrating because she's so perfectly autistically built for one single thing, ray caster). Someone has to care for her.
>Playing Lich wizard>Getting really burned out in the Abyss so I restart the game as an Angel wizard >Back to the Abyss, I try to fight Playful Darkness like I did last time and get absolutely demolishedThat merged spellbook really makes all the difference, huh? On my Lich I just kind of pointed at Playful Darkness and it exploded, my blaster Angel can't really make a dent in it. This doesn't bode well for future fights
>>537236805Doesnt angel merge spellbook too?
>>537237062With divine casters, not with wizard, so I've got two spellbooks
>>537237149oh then yeah youre fucked.
>>537236805Should've picked azata
Heh. You are queer fellows.
>bad random event >reload>bad random event>reload>random combat event >reload fuck off let me finish the game without this bullshit slowing me down
Is path of exile a crpg it's free this weekend but I dont like diablo cause it's mindless carpal tunnel tier gameplay
CRPG set on an oil rig>intrigue>murder>corporate secrets>seafloor excursions>something terrible dredged up from the depths
>>537239639this was the opening of cars 2
This feels racist
>>537239449Old school arpgs like Diablo 2 used to be fun but modern ones like PoE are just straight up cancer, literally everything is constructed and maintained to keep you engaged and coming back to it (seasons, challenges, constant meta shifts that ruin your builds just to keep it all "fresh" and make sure streamers have content, etc). Actually a good modern one would be Grim Dawn, because its single player so it doesn't really have all that engagement farming and FOMO bullshit. More of a story and point to exploring the world in that one too.
>>537239921she's so perfect I can hardly camceptualize her
>>537240429Yeah I played diablo 2 for the first time a few years ago with the remastered it was pretty good. Felt like at least some semblance of a story too. I kind of am tired with regular "combat" in turn based rpg's nobody has innovated shit for them they're even devolving and just copying table tops so I would appreciate either more disco elysium's or ARPG stuff
>>537242508she didnt say that
>>537236805Meh, Playful is late Act 4 strength wise stuck in late act 3.You just had a bad party comp and no cheese tacticsA couple mythic ranks and 2 levels+ you get from Alushynirra makes it much easier.
Wrath difficulty really drops if you just have one guy who can dispel. Even Daeran can do it.
>>537242979It's true, the Lich spells are cheesy. Mainly because of this >>537243767I forget the name but Lich has a super dispel that also cripples whoever it targets, that's how I beat Playful Darkness and without it I couldn't do it first thing act 4
Rogue Trader, I just started Act 4. Is there anything actually timed (like the Dargonus Raid) or can I just fuck around?
twilio offers 25 assetsso if you want to contribute to the crpgg hotline just make a vocaroo with your crpgg tip
>>537244201Nope no timers. Just fuck around.
for a shortbow archer, pure mutation warrior or dip 2 into eldritch archer worth it?
>>537242979the easy boss is where owlsloppers are told that there build is shit and they suck. they didn't get the memo and cried for baby mode games like rogue tranny
I still think I'm missing something in my quest to latch onto Baldur's Gate (and by extension, the wider world of party based isometric CRPGs)I'm at the end of Nashkel Mines, and can't figure out how to beat Mulahey.My party comp is: Lv 2 Mage PC, Lv 3 Imoen, Lv 2 Jaheira, Lv 2 Khalid, Lv 1 Montaron, and Lv 2 Xan who I just picked up.The adds that spawn after engaging him just swarm all around, pick off the weak ones, and barely give me a chance to reposition or cast spells.I tried doing as many quests as I could to get power, but pretty quickly I ran out of ones that I have any decent direction to find, but I can already tell it's probably not enough.
>The monster disappeared, and silence returned once more. Steam rises from freshly baked cookies and fragrant tea on the table. Arueshalae gazes at her dream. You've never seen such joy on her face. “I... I just want to live here, in the mortal world. With you. I've solved the goddess's riddle. This is my true dream!” >Arueshalae’s fragile body flares with a rainbow light, a swarm of blue butterflies surrounds her. She looks at you with shining eyes. “I love you. Will you be with me? Will you share my dream?” >The girl flinches, but doesn’t pull her hand away. She squeezes your hand with her dry, hot fingers. “I believe you. You must be real — I don’t want to imagine a world where you’re not.” >As if she was just waiting for that, Arueshalae answers your smile with one of her own. “Together, no hardship will scare us. We’ll get through it! We definitely will!” >The heat radiating from Arueshalae’s body warms you and fills you with peace. Closing her eyes, she leans closer into you, her face moving toward yours... >Arueshalae takes your hand in her small, hot palm, and the world around you fades away. I bless this thread with my hands.
Just became a champion boxer with pure testicle crits.
>>537245569I would skip to BG2.BG1 is a bit finicky due to its very low level.It's also not as engaging to a noob as is the sequel. It's somehow both railroading you (hey CHARNAME why don't we GO TO NASHKEL) and leaving you directionless
>>537246068Chosen one....
>>537245569>Lv 1 MontaronDump this fag for Kagain, the dorf who runs a shop in Beregost. Much tougher than Montaron. You could also replace Xan with Edwin who is a much better mage.
>>537244948>a shortbow archerDon't
>>537185910I DEMAND GUNS IN KINGMAKER LET FREEDOM RRIIIINNG
>>537246502why are you posting a blonde dyke psycho's sex pet pajeeta?
>>537204889>>537204517These were never worth it. An always on item like this is basically 2k or even less.
>>537246594It's the only gun image on my phone right now.
>>537246304that's the best rogue in the game, he's fighter multi classes and gets shortie saving throws
I picked up my Solasta playthrough I started earlier this year, and the verticality is amazing, the way you can interact with the environment, everything just works really well. This could easily be my #1 top combatfag RPG of all time......if it didn't use 5E.A few days ago, I replayed Knights of the Chalice to get all its Steam achievements. I had a blast. It's a far simpler engine, the battle maps are just 2D planes with no environmental interaction, but the D&D 3.5 system is just so much fun to play with in a combatfag game like this. Pierre's homebrew rule changes like giving all casters full access to their entire spell library instead of making you memorize a handful beforehand also adds to the fun of the combat, since your casters are so incredibly versatile - and the same applies to enemies, who will blow half a dozen spells at you every turn.After finishing KotC1, I picked up my ironman attempt at KotC2 again, and it's even more fun. The only thing it lacks compared to Solasta is full 3D environments, but other than that, it has everything: height levels, hazards like pits you can fall (or be pushed!) into, bodies of liquid like water or lava you can get submerged in (which affects your movement and attacks). And simply because of the system used - homebrew D&D 3.5 - I vastly, vastly prefer it to Solasta. In fact it just makes me wish Solasta used 3.5 instead.
I like how no-one ever dumps Imoen
>>537246693Why would you need two thieves though? They're only there for skills and traps cheese in bg2.
>>537246823Thieves are useful
>>537246453why? with focused weapon from TTT damage should be the same as with any other weapon
>casually is the best crpg in your path
>>537245569My general strategy in all of BG1 is giving everyone other than a tank ranged weapons and abusing choke points. I usually even make Khalid an archer if I have someone else to tank.If you're not already using it grab sleep and abuse it for as long as you can. It'll help with any weak adds.
>>537247780Solastas combat moggs
>>537246693>you don't need another thief, jellybrain, you have me
>>537246958Yep, Yoshimo -> Imoen takes care of the thief side of things in BG2
>>537246958Having two theives can be nice in bg. Your points are pretty limited in bg 1 so you can have one focus on sneaking to backstab guys and the other can do al the traps and locks. Not gonna say its optimal but its a solid option. In bg2 you eventually get enough levels that one thief can do everything.Also Montaron is just a straight up solid combat character.>>537245569Thats the fight with all the skeletons right? Pretty sure you can sleep mulahey (command works at least) and focus fire him. Then once he's down have your tankiest character stand in the hall blocking the skeletons while the rest of your party chips away at them from range.Ranged in general is op in bg1, everyone should have a bow, sling etc in their second weapon slot.
>>537247359Shortbows have one okay weapon and it's +3.
>>537246823I dump Imoen, only used her in my first playthrough.I prefer Montaron.AND THE RIVERS RUN REEEED
>Montaron>XzarSo are they a pair of queers or what?
>>537248719god, BG art did not age well, maybe because that unnaturally shiny style is so prevalent with AI slop now
An owlslopper would die of soul overdose from playing bg1
>>537249192BG1 is overrated THOUGH
>>537246958just need the one and maybe a bard to pick pockets. the non-evil one at the start is for the dudes playing on less than core that want to hang out with minsc and boo
>>537248719They'll both express relief when the other gets killed.No idea why they're traveling together in the first place, but whatever.
>>537248883BG1 art looks better than BG2
>>537249705I think they're both working for the same person, some duke.
>>537249705They're working for the zhentarim
>>537249962if you play with both of them, eventually you would find out whom it is
>>537249705The sex
Sleep lightly, taskmaster
What need ye dead?
>>537249862no way
>>537249862left: random woman holding a broomright: half-elven warrior wearing plate
I don't get dirge bard, you're performing to shake enemies but then you're not performing to buff the party. What's the point?
>>537246015this might or might not be a good ritual post but I've never read it
>>537252842The point is to shake enemiesThe point is not to buff the partyHope this helps
>>537252842Being able to use enchantment spells on undead and you still get all the good bard stuff. It's just a straight upgrade.
>>537248719If Montaron dies, Xzar says that he never loved him.
>>537253236Do you spend a lot of time thinking about men loving other men?
>>537253236Oh well that proves he's not gay then doesn't he
>>537253372Mostly I think about women loving other women.
>>537252842It's so you can run Martyr Paladin, obviously
>>537252740Left: Stern but caring elven rangerRight: Bogged LA coke-bimbo
>>537253608you need to get experimented on by Irenicus for this dogshit post
>>537253725I cannot be contained; I cannot be controlled.
i want to experiment with imoen
>>537254215You're a queer fellow
>>537254215
Can Imoen displace Yrliet as the main shitposting girl of this general?
>>537253516Post this isnt video games (1).jpg
This is bullshit.I talk to A before B and despite there being no indication whatsoever that this matters, I'm permanently locked out of an important piece of the story.
>me playing foid RT with ToyBox poly romance checked in
>>537249331>for the dudes playing on less than core that want to hang out with minsc and booI'm missing something obvious. I get the alignment-compatibility part but playing at Core Rules or higher difficulty enables companion death. You'd still need the thief at high difficulties wouldn't you.
>>537255847Average female toon enjoyer
>>537254997
>>537229170Proof?
>>537255782>important piece of the storyI'm pretty sure it's completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
>>537255782No refunds
>>537249862Did they reuse stock human art with no visible ears for a half elf?
I wanna smooch her.
>>537256704No, they used the wife of one of the devs as a reference.
>>537255782Get a hint. We don't like your kind here wannabe undead.
>>537256704How new are you
>>537256781
>>537256865They did Justin dirty
>>537256865LmaoShe's the queen of the harpiesHere's your crown, your majesty
>>537256941The irl wife here is cuter than the portraitIrl Imoen looks kinda psycho.
>>537256745
>>537256493giwtwm
Yes, thunder crashes the moment I step into a building. No, I'm not ominous at all.
Do you actually get new colonies from this? The rewards seem kind of shitty compared to building the Shrine otherwise.
>>537259258maybe I just misremember it, but there aren't any real differences between the colony projects with maybe 1-2 lines of text being different for some
>>537259258>Do you actually get new colonies from this?lmao
>>537259258No new colonies. The only reward of significance is rep. In that case shrine is better.As you go along, some projects give tons of rep and those are quite useful
>>537259432two of them can give you new escort ships, couple of them can give good items
>>537259432Some of them give you significantly different rewards eg recurring medkits, or the Dargonus escort ship which is always replaced. It's worth planning out a bit. Then of course a whole new set of projects unlocks in act 4
>>537259857>>537259964I should've been more specific. The rewards are different, but the major colony events are still the same, like the prison planet Vheabos VI is always gonna have the xeno and cult of dawn event, same with Dargonus having a genestealer uprising and that Deldar administrator event
>>537262979>that Deldar administrator eventThat what now
>>537263140Deldar wych takes over the adminstratum to revel in the misery caused by making people fill out forms. She's pretty good at her job so you can employ her, or alternatively bury her in paperwork of your own
>game's first mission is one of the hardest in any videogameWhat the FUCK were they thinking
What's a good weapon for Ulfar?
>>537267559penis
crpg alignment system idea: everyone is morally gray
crpg alignment system idea: a z-axis
Morality icosahedron
I refuse to be tied to morality, I'm beyond morality
FATALITY (critical success!)
>>537269395Good way to make not a rpg.
>>537249862There's some really good ones in BG1 and there are a lot overall. It's too bad we didn't get very many BG2 style portraits.
>>537248883BG1 art doesn't look anything like AI slop.
>>537248127>bg2 you eventually get enough levels that one thief can do everything.Multiple thieves is still really nice in BG2, especially if they're pure thieves with kits. Level 11 thieves get three traps/day, so that's nine traps with a bounty hunter and one other thief. You also get the additional hit & fade backstab shenanigans, which is fun. Plus with multiple thieves you get detect illusions and pickpocket early, which is really handy. You hardly need a thief at all. If you don't want one, you'll be fine as it is simply a matter of convenience if you aren't using the other thief skills.
CRPG idea: every time you kiss a dollie you get Dollie Kiss Token which you can exchange for prizes in all participating locations.
is tossing a gold coin to a beggar lawful good or perpetuating the reliance on handouts that ultimately enslaves the beggar to a miserable existence
>>537273886fuck off, kreia
>You can only reset your full archetype, not just your second or third oneI fucking hate the leveling in RT so much, bros.
I haven't played BG3 since the first "official" release, did I miss something or did they seriously cut down a lot of the opening? Like I remember the nautiloid ship having thralls to talk to and multiple areas but now it's like one hallway and two or three rooms
>>537246208retard
>>537274486I know right. What were they thinking
>>537274928the nautiloid level was shortened because it's like a tutorial and doesn't need to be 20 minutes long
>>537275480It wasn't that long
>>537273886>when helping hurtsGive a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll feed himself. Evil people like to use money as a way to control people. Good people like to use money to help others without giving it to them directly, usually by means of infrastructure and opportunity (to work).
>>537274928Are you high? It was always shortIt goes>Leaving the pod>Us>Laezel meets you>Fight 1>You find Sharts pod>Puzzle to free her>Fight two>Crash
>>537275626so do you give gold to beggars or not
>slept through the BG1 talkcome back how's your game going
>>537275649>>You find Sharts pod>>Puzzle to free her>>Fight twoNo it wasn't, I distinctly remember going outside, fighting more imps, climbing up a bit, and then going back in. Not to mention the first fight with the imps was a bigger area
>>537275626You can work for exposure at my org
>>537275807hasn't been a thing since the first "official" release you know, you're remembering EA
>>537275807you are correct in that such a thing existed, but that was removed with the first actual releasethe sequence you're talking about only existed in early access
>>537275807It got cut from full release. Thank god, I need the prologue to be short
>>537275779No way. The easiest way to clean up a city is don't give the cretins money.
>>537273886>walk up to beggar>"MAGRITIE TURIMOS!!!!">walk awayAnd that's how you solve homelessness bros
>>537279421this but landlord parasites
>>537273886It's lawful good if you're in a city with no reliable support network for the homeless, chaotic neutral if there is but you still don't trust in it, lawful evil if you're aware there is but you're doing it with the express purpose of making him rely on you and your private wealth for nefarious purposes instead of on public systems.If you didn't even bother to check you're either a 8 Int neutral good (well intention but dumb) or a 8 Con true neutral (too fucking lazy to check, well meaning enough to want to appease your own conscience, not well meaning enough to go out of your way for it).
[Evil] Here's a coin for you, bum. Don't spend it all in one place
[Evil] (Attack) I don't like this thread, die!
[Evil] (Pretend to be virtuous to boost your reputation) "Keep the reward. Use it to help the village."
[Lawful] (Indicate that you are owed sex.) Sex!
[Smile dangerously] I'll give you 3 gold pieces if you hurt yourself.
Seen any elves? (laughs dangerously)
(Bellow Boisterously) You like to dance close to the fire, don't you?
Looks good
Shadowheart is technically a virgin because she was mind controlled all those previous times she had sex so it doesn't count.
[Lawful Good] I found the street rat with your stolen bread, good baker-man.
>>537289123Halsin hits round 2 with Shadowheart, churning that goodberry pie he already left in her into a frothy goodberry porridge. Tav sits nearby rocking back and forth, squealing in anticipation, ready to slurp it down eagerly, though still a bit queasy from all he's ingested so far today.Breathing heavy from the exertion, the archdruid Halsin dismounts Shadowheart and steps aside, revealing the sticky mess he left in her, dripping out slowly.Tav is still feeling unwell from the previous batches, so starts backing away. "Oh, you aren't quitting now, are you?" Shadowheart teases, casting Command: Eat.The rich, sweet taste of goodberry and the musky scent of Halsin's thick balls mingle into an intoxicating blend in Shadowheart's warm damp Grove.The mixture has a presence that infiltrates Tav's very pores. It will be a long time before its traces will fully disappear from around his face.>"mmffnghhmm yes good mmmm goodberry good" Tav mumbles.
Deleted my Azata playthrough because I couldn't handle the cringe. I hate how Owlcat writes chaotic. I don't give a fuck about cookies and edible sculptures while there's a war with demons going on.
>>537239639I love MGS2 and wish more games had a similar setting as well, anon.
>>537291464skill issue
>>537291464you can't play azata unless you're trans
>>537291464I was under the impression that it was the setting that made Azata’s cringe.
Post alignment music
>>537294136CEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckZlj2p8W9M
>>537294136Azata themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHytjEj7B9g
>>537294136https://youtu.be/Gezb98mA6FM?t=139Chaotic Good (non-Owlcat)
She's not your sister, she's your half-sister.And even then, the parent you share was a deity who went around shooting his magical semen into 100 different women at the time, so once magic and deities are involved, the rules of biology can change. And last but not least, you didn't even know you were half-sbilings-through-magic until recently, you grew up as childhood friends. It's not like you want to bang your sister, you want to bang your childhood friend who you didn't even know was your half-sister-through-magic. So it's not an incest fetish story, the fact that you're half-related-through-magic is an inconvenient discovery during a traditional friends to lovers romance.So in my opinion, Imoen romance is ok. Especially for female ward.
>>537295464
>>537295464>deity who went around shooting his magical semen into 100 different women at the timethis should have been wrath's real secret endingcould have started with areelu
>>537287674>it's realhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumfights
>>537295876The gentleman's sport
I like D'n'D but I hate dungeons and I hate dragons.
>>537294136nghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIjTq_OdFvo
>>537296285i only like ice and swamp dragons
>>537295625mutton mongering riff raff
>>537296285Sewers and city watchmen just doesn't have the same ring to it.
>>537296285Holes and Trolls would have left a different impression
>>537296285caves and goblins
Dungeons XOR Dragons for me
Have you pre-ordered The Expanse: Osiris Reborn yet?
shitpants is not a crpg
LEAKMAN PLEASE LEAK US ANOTHER WAIFU I'M BEGGING YOU
>>537298128there others are jae tierthey hoped people would like boon n' kroot
>>537297765If I want to fuck the VA then it's a crpg
Divinity: Original Space
>>537295464FOR THE LAST TIME, VICONIA, I AM NOT FUCKING MY SIBLING
>>537299891t. queer fellow
>>537295464I mean Sarevok fucked and knocked up his own daughter, what's a little incest between Bhaalspawn?
I need a swig o' some strong, dwarven ale.
>>537295464I feel like the Westermarck effect would also apply to a close childhood friend (you don't feel sexual attraction for someone you grew up with)
>>537294136 >Lawful Evilhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_wpH0luMdk>Lawful Goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_1N6_O254g
my crpg crimes?desecration of burial sitesvagrancytax evasionmanslaughter incest
>>537300163It was a moment of weakness
which crpg classes would realistically make bank and which would be poorfags
>>537302064cum witch
>>537302064>bankSuccessful BardsWizards that live past 6HD>poorfagsClerics and PaladinsRangers
>>537302064Anything with Mental stat as prime stat - makes a bankAnything with Physical stat as prime stat - poor
>>537302557a high-level rogue with reliable talent can literally rob a bank in broad daylight and not even be noticed
>>537302064Obviously thieves make the most money. It's not even a question.Wizards always end up as poorfags because magic is so absurdly expensive.Clerics end up donating most of their money.Fighters spend all their money on enchanted bullshit since they have no magic of their own.
>>537302983>Clerics end up donating most of their money.lmaoClerics irl don't donate money, they get donation money.
>>537302459>clerics>poor>when they have a monopoly on divine spells and healssure buddy
Help me understand the combat for Pillars 1. I'm fine with RTWP combat and had no issue with it in BG 1&2 and both pathfinder games, but something about this one feels off. Like it's not responsive enough.
>>537302665How do you lift all the golden bars with dipped Str though
>>537303141put them into my bag of holding (which I also stole)
>want to make a magic deceiver trickster>literally nothing the trickster gets helps the class in any wayThe class was literally made for trickster, hell it even has the trickster mythic path portrait on one of it's abilities. What the fuck is Owlcat's problem?
>>537300630>incesthuh
>>537294136LE:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikfy1Q6mAFwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnaXbEdVUro
>>537303240Alright. I consneed.I'll be casting Color Spray in local circus for 10 gold per hour if someone needs me...
>>537303135I guess I don't know what you mean by responsive. Maybe you're getting interrupted all the time? There's the time it takes to do an action and then a recovery time. So raising dex will give you more actions over time. I'd need an example of what you mean by unresponsive.
>>537303438isn't frieren like a level 40 archmage I never watched her show
>>537303637meant for >>537303508
>>537303637She was initially but I guess the author realized that having an autistic overpowered protagonist is boring so now there's a group of cringey donut steel characters who can't beat on her own.
owlsloppers just erping with the thread troon? you sicken me....play a real rpg fucks
That fight in the Frozen Prince System was probably the first fight I've seen where Kibbles got completely fuck, holy shit
What shadowrun game should I buy to get into the setting? I don't have a group to play the actual ttrpg with.
whose kibbles, at least pretend to communicate like an adult
>>537304954What's a real rpg then?
Why do RPGs even bother with inventory management? It’s just a huge waste of time. Why not just make it so that your character automatically has everything they need at all times? You could just press a button and instantly have the perfect gear for any situation. Having to constantly manage your inventory is just tedious and really breaks the immersion. I mean, what's the point of having to go through a hundred menus to equip a sword or pick up health potions when you could just focus on the fun stuff, like combat and dialogue? Shouldn't RPGs just automatically give you everything you need, like a loot vending machine, instead of wasting your time with inventory micromanagement?
>>537306373Dragonfall and Hong Kong are both greatHK has some UI/qol updates over the other twoDragonfall is conspiracy stuff, HK is more supernatural
fishgaekibkibretard
dude who only played owlslop: dam a lot of inventory management in rpgs
>>537306325>Optional "mini"-boss fight -> 1.5k HP Hellbrute & 4 tough Chaos MarinesThat fight only happens at the end of act 4.I don't know how you're not 1 shotting the whole map by that point.Are you doing some kind of pseudo-challenge run where you deliberately avoid the best builds?
>>537306696I would hate this and I dislike you as a person.Please don't give any feedback to studios, they should not hear your garbage thoughts.
How long is the first Pillars game?
>>537307251I flew there at the beginning of act 4Yrliet did effectively onshot the map, Kibbles and Mara just tried to melee and suffered for it
>>537308278quite
>>537308601That's weird. I had an executioner kibbles and she's essentially a one woman nuke.
>>537303438based. All makt åt Tengil.
>>537308754by act 4 every member of your party should be a one person army. if they aren't either you suck at character building or you somehow skipped all the broken equipment the game throws at you.
>>537308278Depends how you play, and also White March 1&2 add on more. They're well worth it though if you like the game already, many say it's better than the main game even.
>>537308601>Yrliet>doing anythingHow? My level 55 snipers feel weaker than my level 20 arch militants.The 1 attack per round limitation just absolutely kills their damage output.
>>537308754She does kill her way through most maps and has like 140% dodge. This time she just blew it, I guess.
Starting a new kingmaker play through.I'm torn between druid and ranger. Help me pick.
>>537309593Multiclassing is a thing and they both classes make use of wisdom.
>>537309593Go ranger. Don't get the pet.What you're going to want to do is get the ability that lets you share your favored enemy bonus.Then you're going to want to cast instant enemy on the boss.This gives a unique +6 to hit and damage to your entire team which is extremely useful. Combine that with guarded hearth and you'll hit anything.
>>537309593If you don't plan on using Ekun then ranger. Druid has some cool spells though, and you can even build into wildshaping though depending on difficulty you might need a monk dip for more AC so you can actually survive on the front line.
>>537309473I mean, Operatives will always shoot less, no doubt. But it's not like RT needs minmaxing and being able to shoot across the map is always neatI just love her banter, same as the Dark Elf.
>>537309970Ignore this guy he's retarded.Ekun has a pet, which means he's an inferior ranger who can't give the unique buff to the whole team.
>>537310097You didn't answer my question. You said Yrliet oneshot the map.So how did she kill 4 chaos marines and a hellbrute in one round?Optimistically she can kill one marine, but even that's unlikely.
>>537309880>>537309970>>537309916I'm not multiclassing, neither am I dipping.I think I'm gonna go fayspeaker
>>537310132Ekun is also black. So on principle I wouldn't recruit him anyway. Not to mention is personal quest involves you hooking him up with the lady that runs your tavern. Sorry bro, don't care how "based" you are I'm not promoting racemixing in my Kingdom.
>>537310375>fayspeakerYou better fuck the Salad. It would be too thematic to pass up.
>>537294136https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
>>537297765is a CRPG companion, though.
>>537310472>>537311094saar
>>537310375>FeyspeakerGo Defender of the True World instead
>>537313002I like that you get the illusion and enchantment spells with fayspeaker. How woud you play your defender?
>>537311094him and verse made no sense
>>537274486>>537275248Toybox fixes this. There's an option to respec only from second or third. Once set, this applies even when you respec by talking to Janris, not just through toybox itself.
Average CRPG protagonist
>>537318867No wonder they're siblings
>>537310369Probably with the aid of that rifle that lets you get a free shot if you crit. Then add in one of the assassin abilities for an attack that does extra damage based on how much health is missing.
>>537302064Witches get riches. The hexes can be cast on an unlimited number of creatures per day, so if you have one that's even mildly monetizable, you can make mad dosh.
>>537302983>Wizards always end up as poorfags because magic is so absurdly expensive.They don't use their own money. They are provided with materials by cooperations and paid a salary. Like irl corporate scientists
>>537310375I leveled Ember into fayspeaker once, to make her a mystic theurge. Sadly, having multiple spellbooks is buggy.
>>537318950Im too stupid to figure out how
>>537323686I'll take a screenshot in a bit
I want more Pillars of Eternity and modernized Infinity Engine takes. It still has the best mechanical system in the genre. I've pretty much tapped the games for all of their content after like 3k hours between them, but there's so many more characters I'd like to play. Pathfinder's gameplay is ass, and the modern turn based games don't have the same flow. Wish I could scratch the RTS/RPG hybrid itch with more than just Kenshi and Total War.
Chuckled at that
>>537324173You're unironically in the wrong genre.The reason you like the 'flow' more is because you don't care about the actual combat.Go read a book.
>>537324173The sawyer derangement syndrome posters won't like this one
>real time with pause slop>best mechanical systemBait used to mean something
crpg idea: female antagonist that you impregnate
if someone had faithfully remade Bloodlines in UE5 (the only difference is Heather can be commanded to be fully naked in the chantry now, not just changing clothes) and did the right thing not announcing early enough for the DMCA shit, how could they release it in a safe way?
crpg idea: sawyer kino but with fully fleshed romances
>fake time with pause
>>537327089Areelu or Incendia should have been this
what weapon do you associate with wizards?
>>537331113
>mention rtwp game>instant seething repliesEvery infinity engine game mogs your 40kiddie shit.
>>537323686>>537274486This is the setting, under the "Level Up" tab
>>537331460You can also respec from within toybox, under the Party tab, rather than talking to Janris. The setting in >>537331460 applies regardless.
BG3? rpg of the decade, also turn-basedRT? honorable mention, also turn-basedyou lost
>>537331113Sling
>>537331724RT stands for Real Time
RT all-time peak? 45,405WotR all-time peak? 46,724
My HERO? Karlach of course.
>>537331113Staves or bare hands. Wands are gay but honestly I prefer bare hands. There's no greater expression of power than having the magic come straight from your body rather than through a conduit
>uses high initiative to kill/disable encounter before they get a turnahh turn based is so deep and engaging.
>>537331913Also despite certain loud voices going on and on about what a failure Pillars was: all-time peak of 41,906. Not too bad especially for what was at the time an essentially dead genre.
hold on I need to cast my 40 buffs before I a-move this boss, this is the deeply engaging gameplay only boomers can appreciate
>>537332193Not really a thing in IE games. And not a thing in the PF games for lower than Core, and I'd even say Core for the most part.
hold on if I lower the difficulty I can just a-move the entire game without prebuffing this is a good defense of my flawed system
>>537332452There's nothing wrong with having to play on "Normal", anon. Is that what has you all pissy-panties? The game didn't give you asspats by calling the normal difficulties "super not for babies mode!!" and you couldn't handle even Core?
I’m incapable of enjoying more than one thing. I need to take an absolute nonsensical politics tier stance on everything.
>>537332193Good thing pillars fixed this, what a great game.
Should romance be RTWP or turn-based?
>>537332715You should work on that, it might make you happier to change your badittude into a radittude.
There's nothing wrong with relying on high initiative, anon. Is that what has you all pissy-panties? The game didn't give you asspats by calling your cheesy strat "super not for babies mode!!" and you couldn't handle even one fight not going first I win mommy I'm the fastest I win it's my turn first?
>>537331460>>537331706I'll try it out later, thanks
>>537331113Shotgun
>>537332965If it's so great, why did it flop?
dwarf beard vs wizard beardwho wins
>>537333325RT, WotR, and Pillars1 all have very close all-time peaks. It's time to retire the narrative that it flopped. I know it will be hard, but it's time to let go.
>muh steam peak numbersbored now
>>537333618Owlcat doesn't make money they are funded by eastern european oligarchs
>>537333754oops, meant to respond to >>537333618anyhow like I said pretending that Pillars1 was a flop has become boring to me now, time to do something more meaningful with my time
How much rape would there be in an Owlcat Drukhari CRPG?
avowed flopped
>>537334063zero because owlcat doesn't do rape, only cuckoldry and wifesharing
owlflop cant make turn based games. rogue tranny was a piece of shit, only drooling subhumans played wrotr turn taking 30mins for a 30 second fight
>>537332193Prebuffing isn't exclusive to rtwp games you know. I don't think anyone is going to defend it.Also this is an owlslop general and wotr has even worse prebuffing than boomer crpgs.
>>537334563owlcat can't make any kind of game
>>537334716but its a problem with pathfinder. pathfinder in general requires cheese, because you have deal with 30 ac and its not even a special mob
You don't have to prebuff much in Core and under.That's a simple, basic, fact that some people just can't accept for some reason.
5E WONarmor class>thac0Concentration>buff spamming
A system that is fundamentally flawed cannot be fixed by changing the parameters (difficulty, design encounter, buff duration, the color of Jaheira's hair).That's a simple, basic, fact that some people just can't accept for some reason.
>>537335954I like concentration in theory (anything that moves dnd crpgs away from prebuffing is good imo) but way too many spells require it, its too restrictive.Either reduce the amount that require concentration or casters to concentrate on more spells as they gain levels.
>>537332985Spoken like a true radcuck. Being a little bitch charts way higher btw.
>>537331113Book > Scrolls > Staff > Wand
>>537336529>or casters to concentrate on more spells as they gain levels.That would just lead to turning casters into buff bots again, the only way that could work is letting you only use two concentration spells maximum.
>>537336529Unless you refuse to use anything other than haste it’s never been a problem for me
>>537336846>ScrollsThis nigga pulled out a paper towel mid fight
I concentrate on Firestorm of Infinite Chaos Damage and Impenetrable Sphere of Greater Invincibility
>>537331113bullshit spells
High elf, wood elf, or dark elf party member?
>>5373370042 was what I was thinking pretty much. I agree any more than that would be too much.
The number of things you can concentrate on should be a function of conwimpy noodle arm wizards can only handle being a conduit for the energy of one spell effect
>>537337417It was well deserved. A birthright if you will. Melee cattle must submit.
my 28 CON red dragon can concentrate on 3 Firestorms of Infinite Chaos Damage
>>537337204And beat your ass with it.
>>537337542Which setting?
*spits up blood*i didnt hear no bell solasta...you dont even have cuckold romances
the only thing I need to concentrate on is who's next in line for a face full of Magic Missile
>>537337852It’s time to stop
5e is kinda like democracy, garbage system better than the other options
>>537338183What's 3.5 like?
>>537338490you have to play every game listed in the OP before you can post here
>>537338594No I just need a captcha. Must be something weird on your end.
>>537338490"Be a caster or die."
>>537338594I would settle for one or two of them most of the time
What makes a romance good?
>>537338938it's RTWP and got a big peak number on steam
>>537338490it's not the size of the boat but the motion in the ocean
really cute when the zooms that only played owlslop games try to hop into the conversation. its like a kid wearing a baggy suit from his father
>>537338781magocracy
Oh that crazy Jubilost. Always suspicious for no reason.
>>537341070jubilost is such a chad
>>537341305>Doesnt even say this to Tristian's face, just talks it on field when he's not around like a bitch
You do play a charisma class, right?
>>537342972No.
>>537337563I agree that con should be an important attribute for spellcasters. It's like in what world would plastic barrels ever handle the pressures of smokeless powder for long?
>>537332965>can't use magic out of combat>rpgC'mon, bro. That's some bullshit and you know it.
>>537342972>imoen looking at charname, colorized
Romance shouldn't be available to those with less than 18 CHA
>>537331113>no one's said mind yetReally guys?
>>537324173Same, altho IE mogs Unity so bad it's not even funny.
>>537342972I play a class that has a stat called Charisma, yes
>>537303135It's done in Unity. That means it's a bloated, unoptimized mess and that's why it isn't snappy or precise like the IE.
>>537344074this but also those below 100,000 gold and not a tall race
The origin of crpgg incelposting
>>537344549>>537344074the Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity would be game-breaking.
>>537344649He should've been a mercenary instead of a bard, Valerie would've opened her legs up in a heartbeat.
>>537346163farmer*
Pillars combat is okay for me, the only issue I had was sometimes you'd start a fight and just get swarmed with enemies with no way to position your tank properly.
>>537346431>he doesn't want to get swarmed by enemies Should have been a monkBVLL
>>537346431Initial positioning is very strong, as well as Engagement. Low engagement means enemies can just run past, but then higher engagement means investment through feats (well I think there's just the one?) or equipment. But that's why Stealth is helpful, getting into a good position can completely change the fight.
>>537338781Martials are good in every 3e game I've played tho.They kick ass in the neverwinter nights games.
>>537343902You can cast damaging spells just not buffs. It doesn't make sense but it makes for a more fun gameplay experience because prebuffing is gay.The system could use more stuff to do out of combat like utility spells though. Stuff like using invisibility to scout ahead or steal, lighting dark areas with magical light etc. If we ever got a pillars 3 I would want more more interactions with the world like that. Like a larian game but without the reddit humor
>>537343902Almost no crpg actually makes use of out of combat spellcasting in the way you're supposed to be able toIt just doesn't translate
>>537276169>>537276187>>537276473Oh I see, yeah my bad. It's been a long time, I played the EA a lot so I think I'm just confused.I do notice the dialogue is different. It's more... reddit? For a lack of a better word. I don't know if I'm just misremembering again
I'm starting to think writing RPG dialog doesn't actually require sentience.
I want to play as a character who doesn't use magic in morrowind as a challenge but there really isn't that many other skills worth taking.Even with combat and stealth skills you're still scraping the bottom of the barrel by the time you're done filling out your major/minor skills.
AI is coming for your owlslop.
fuck off
The sloptard is here to shill again.No one cares, take a hint.
>>537354430You're so right it's not our based chad 4channel dialogue my fellow 4channer
I like how everyone in this game thinks they know everything and come off as the most ignorant fucking retards because they are.
>>537355647I really need to give this game a proper try. I did one playthrough as a merchant so I didn't really use most of the mechanics, only time I saw combat happen was the tutorial.
>>537355862you can do it, anon
TACTICAL ADVENTURES I CALL UPON YOU NOW TACTICAL ADVENTURES!!!! THE EA SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT BY NOW JUDGING BY THE DEMO RELEASE! PLEASE TACTICAL ADVENTURES RELEASE SOLASTA NOW!!! I CALL UPON YOU WITH ALL MY POWER!!!
What build would elric be? A warlock eldrich knight multiclass?
4e was a perfect system for a turn based tactical RPG like Solasta and BG3 but never got one. It is a crime to this day
I prefer 5e
>>537355542What I mean is that it's more sarcastic and lighthearted. Like Gale for example used to feel a bit sarcastic but mostly condescending, now he just feels quippy
>>53735868016 warlock 4 eldrich knight
>>537358942I don't know anything about 4e but its weird they didn't make a single game during that time.
>>537191563Wait, quick questionI'm about to start act 3, and someone in another thread said you have to bring your love interest with you in order to progress the romance.Is that true?Act 3 is the one place I DON'T want to bring her.
>>537360974you have to
>>537359837It's because it was bad
>>537360974You have to. Cassia has two True Romance points in Act 3. If you don't bring her, you can only get one, limiting yourself to 4 and locking yourself out of her true romance.You don't need to bring her to fights, tho, feel free to bring Ulfar/Marazhai instead.
>>537362795>Ulfar/Marazhaithey suuuuuuuuck
>>537334063Imagine being the free use whore for an entire wych coven
>>537362861What? Marazhai is a bit special, but Ulfar has been fun so far, just keep in mind cover isn't really a thing for him
august went by in a flash without me playing a role
>>537363964I spent all of august playing roles instead of doing anything productive
>>537254508based beyond belief
>>537355647>>537355967what game is this?
>>537197305Fixed
>>537362795Best crew for Cumrag plotwise is >Yrlikek (mandatory if you have her)>Your gf>Argenta>IdiraThat's all. You don't need a sixth member, you'll pick up Ulfar or Marazhai by the time you're even able to have a full party. If there's no Yrlikek, go with >Your gf>Argenta>Idiraand pick up both Marazhai and Ulfar. You can get rid of Marazhai later by giving him to Heinrix as a present.
>>537369371Not sure if RT is like this as well but in WOTR I find that I never want to run 6 man parties simply because there's not enough members that would fit together logically. Feels like these games really push the "just mix and match people of all alignments and personalities for the bants" angle, and I don't disagree that can be fun at times but a lot of party compositions just end up feeling schizophrenic when you have to disregard the personality of the companions to put together a team that also works well mechanically in combat.
Is improved precise shot worth picking up? Are there any places apart from Lost Chapel where it would come into play, and where True Sight won't accomplish the same thing?
Are there any cRPGs where I can just be like a bog standard rank and file city guard/soldier on low level, low stakes, but still important adventures?
>>537370221Rt is pretty ok in that regard. You can make a party of lawful types or of more flexible types. A pure evil party isn't really possible though.
What's your favourite shaman archetype?
>>537370747Temple of elemental evil maybe? Even though the final part is a pretty high stake adventure. Compared to most others, it doesn't feel like it.
>>537371787CUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERSCUMERS
>>537372064kicking this whore out of my party first chance I get.
>>537372164...and into my bed!!!
>>537371948I'll give it a look
after 55 hours i have finally finished playing my role as a Roman Warlord who kept killing people and only stopped to clap some royal egyptian ass its kinda funny how the last act spends all its time screaming at you that your so evil and what your doing is wrong and insane but if you just leave literally everything is fine, everyone leads happy lives (well except Bestia because i told him to kill his Sister, that's a shame because Bestia was my favourite) and all is wellvery good game and i wonder what my next role shall be, something to pass the time until Dark Heresy releases
>>537370747No, that would be contrary to the very philosophy of the genre which requires progress from-zero-to-hero. What you want fits something of a point-and-click adventure like Disco Elysium.
>>537374357>the very philosophy of the genre which requires progress from-zero-to-heroDo you have a single fact to back that up
>>537374225>after 55 hours i have finally finished playing my role as a Roman Warlord who kept killing people and only stopped to clap some royal egyptian assbased>(well except Bestia because i told him to kill his Sister, that's a shame because Bestia was my favourite) you fucking monster
>>537353296The DLC had a number of storybook sequences that utilized whether or not you had a certain spell available, which was cool. Not enough though, I agree with what you're saying.
>>537374662ODnD and ADnD even had titles for first 9-11 levels to show you how much you progress. Leveling up is supposed to take you far, it's a core design of cRPG from before their inception. There are some quirky low levrl campaign (e.g. some NWN mods) who keep you at level 3 or 5 but they're an exception, a quirk. No one's designing a whole-ass RPG around the idea of not progressing and staying rank-and-file.
>>537375264You should level up once at the end of each chapter.
a game where you start at level 20 and level down to 1 over the course of the game
>>537376094Explain why this wouldn't work
LG: TomorrowTN: Yotsuba LN: Yotsuba BLE: BurichanNE: FutabaCE: Photon
1 level fighter/ 20 levels arcanist/10 levels eldritch knight/ 9 levels duelistWill it work?
>>537374712>you fucking monsterI DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT SITUATIONshe is going to die either way because she's a blind woman running through a desert on her own! Bestia's main solution to his problems is to kill people!
>>537378119dumbass
>>537378534i was thinking like Bestia! then again Bestia is a retard, perhaps not the best idea but still i didn't know how to handle that situation, are you genuinely telling me that if he just leaves her she somehow survives or some bullshit
>>537377461Pretty good, though I might shift Photon to CN. It's Chaotic, but not that Evil.
>>537377461>TN: Yotsuba>LN: Yotsuba BThese are objectively correct. This is a blue board, so Yotsuba B is the LN choice. But more generally Yotsuba is the standard 4chan style so that is the TN option.
levels 1-5 is when you see the most progression and it's what stories should focus about
1 level in 20 different classes
>>537380236First game: level 1 to around 7-9Second game: 7-9 to around 16Third game: up to 20+import character, import choices, longterm consequencesdevs:>waaaaah but thats too hard waaaaah also players might not see content a-bloobloobloo
>>537380236In almost every RPG the first 3-4 levels are just boring. There is little mechanical progression. Wow, you get another whole hit die but still get to spend 20 rounds watching your characters miss. Great.>>537381454>lets spend 2 years of dev time making a game that is literally only accessible by players of the first game, 90% of who will have zoned out on the game since the first one was released and probably only end up playing if there was a GOTY trilogy being sold 8 years down the line and they can play all the games in one go (company will be bankrupt 10 times over by then)
>>537377461what about if you have dark mode plugin enabled and they all look the same?
Damn, Jaheira wants you to pipe her literally months after her husband died, she's for the streets
>>537383621>monthsYou're being extremely generous with that interpretation.
>>537383621I hope you play the game one day
>>537383621She's making moves on you virtually while you're still in Irenicus' dungeon.
Why do people say there's no romance in Planescape?The flirtations with Annah are incredibly detailed. Way more so than what you see in other games.
>>537385631People say stuff about Planescape without ever actually playing it>WALLS of textThere's less text than in the average modern crpg, and it's more dense and less verbose
>>537385631If she doesn't get pregnant in the ending slides, it's not a romance.Planescape doesn't even HAVE ending slides, therefore it cannot have any romance.
>>537385631People don't play games nowadays. They enjoy them vicariously through video essays and memes.
>>537386742The "fallout 1 isn't turn based" post last thread proves some people don't even do that.
Stacythal >>>>>>>> Chudmillia
>>537387936Pathfinder elves have huge irises. Her eyes should be one color.
>>537389623I think there's a white sclera near the tear duct
>>537385631Most posts you see parroting shit like>walls of text>should be a novel>no romance>shit combathave never played the game. There are plenty of legitimate complaints to be had but those are none of them.
Hags are for (me)
Greybor is such a pathetic character. You see him once before gibbing some cultist, which at the time seems kinda cool but then you forget about him for an entire act until the little runt charges in just as you would have obliterated Darrazand. Then you get to take him on a dragon hunting safari where again we have to pretend like he's useful and you can finally look at his character sheet and its just a shitty glass cannon rogue with the same point buy a PC would have had. Why even throw a character like that at you midway through the game? Say what you will about Arue but at least her point buy is monstrous and a ranger is never really bad.
>>537383621reminder that it was confirmed she would have fucked durge too if swen was given more time
>>537395410ADWR
>>537395579ADWR explores the psychology of patriotism
>The player character is a Betancurian princess>her family is slaughtered, her mother commits suicide, she herself is raped, >using her sexuality as a weaponTroon game
Part 2 when though.
>>537395410most normal foid
>>537377156You'd just have to be some ancient god or undead arisen anew only to realize the one thing that sustains you is gone.
>>537396827yes anonwomen totally don't have rape fantasies, the novel market for women is actually 100% troon consumers
>>537396827Sounds like a R.A. Salvatore novel.
>>537398283Most of them really don't, not in the way you're thinkingIt's become kind of a meme, like yeah there's some truth to it but I've met more women who love the kind of guy - even in fiction - that keeps them safe.The Jane Austen type of romantic man is more popular than the aggressive but handsome rapist
>>537398283Women are a small portion of gamers especially in 2006 when this came out. This was not targeted at women but made by a tranny/AGP for other trannies/AGPs.
>>537395410WOTR, BG3, RT are all good insights into the modern female.
>>537355491>The sloptardLiterally who. When was the last time anyone tried to shill in /crpgg/.
>>537399310>This was not targeted at women but made by a tranny/AGP for other trannies/AGPs.It was made by a woman as her personal smut novelGames and books allow people to explore thoughts and feelings in a safe way they may not be otherwise comfortable with, in the same way we have intrusive thoughts like running someone over on the road. Moreover it's one of the most competent and well designed mods for NWN, was made by a single person for her personal fun. If her friend didn't convince her to release it to the public it would have never seen the light of day.If Trannies made it they would make as much noise about it as possible, demanding clout and attention everywhere. Claiming it belongs to them is one more example of feminine erasure by the trans menace and I will not stand for it.
>>537398283>100% troon consumersThis is the case, which means they are a valid consumer base to pander to and therefore should be included in every crpg
Snap shot outflank build on archer KC + Arue, both with cleaving shot, just did the ghoul room in Drezen keep (the one with a shit tons + nabasus at the end) and it was like watching footage from a german WW1 machine gun nest.
I have absolutely no qualms with this mod, since it's consistently good across the whole game, but>a pale youth
>>537401325We love it when she licks and bites her lips
>>537400965>a dark and handsome stranger what mod is it
>>537401872remove based
>>537401872https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/426orhttps://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/415Dunno which one adds that specific portrait
>>537402107oh its portaits I thought it was a content mod that added an NPC. Honestly I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to homebrew their own mythic path for the game
>>537353904>It just doesn't translateSounds like a cope to me.
Do you bother with headcanon backstories for your recruited mercs/customs?
>>537375664Sure, it's a legit progression design. But the player will expect the level-up to be even more meaningful then.
>>537333807>easternwesternThey promote nazi homo propaganda to ruin great russia>>537335265going for a walk, huh? three mobs just drained 6 levels from you
>>537403846>ruin great russiaKEK okay russki
>>537403846Kek, enjoy your AIDS-ridden shithole, gospodin.
the ghosts in this necromancer game have massive milkers
New Arc Line flopped bigly btw
What roles will you play in september?
>>537410667Dovahkiin
Alright, third attempt at taking Drezen. This time, I'm going to do what my character would actually do and try to avoid unnecessary engagements with random Vrocks and Derakni until after securing the objectives. Minibosses are still a priority target though. Fingers crossed I don't get fucked by Votaries again.
>>537409691isn't that still in EA
Been thinking about sex with Kagha lately
>>537413112Teela...
>>537413112Arabella.....
>>537413112Inwe...
>>537413112Me...
>>537413112>Halsin shizo thinks him fucking Shart is a bad thing>Meanwhile Durge is plapping everyone in the grove while Halsin is locked up in Goblin camo
How do you build Jaethal? Do you keep her as an Inquisitor or should you do other stuff with her?
>>537413112Ellyka...
>>537415140Inquisitor 12/ TH Fighter 8
>ember can't heal and blaster, she just can't OK
>>537415725Ember can heal, ray AND DC with Winter's grasp achually. You just need to grab a XBlood sorc dip with Water+Blue Dragon and get a merc Inciter additionally to your Court Poet!
>>537415963>Water+Blue DragonWhat does this do?
>>537395410why would you ever make this video
>>537416137First - it makes your entire Hellfire Ray water damageSecond - it gives you +1 damage per die to spells with "Water" DescriptorThis allows you to benefit from Water Ring that you want to wear for Winter's Grasp - which is water by default.You need Focus Element and Focus Element+ to compensate Ember's starting CHA being 17 instead of 19/20.
>>537416196Women are mysterious creatures
>>537416596Don't you mean Cold damage? Also doesn't Blue Draconic Bloodline give a boost to Electric spells?
I'm the most powerful crpg protagonist of all time
>>537417238Whatever. Just focus everything down into Cold damage to utilize Elemental Focus
>>537411494Difficulty?
>>537417803darven-sama...have mercy...
>>537417803Imoen's half-sibling...
>>537411494Good luck brother, I just got past this point again today on my umpteenth restart lately.
>>537415963Ember is almost always my designated Bard or Skald. Its a suboptimal build since she's so heavily tuned into ray casting, but I hate playing any kind of high level caster that isn't my KC so there's nothing to be done.
was gonna try black geyser but apparently theres a dlc in work. idk not a two run or worth waiting a year for
>>537415725soulless: ember blastersoulful: ember deals no damage the entire campaign
>>537413112who?
Ember is almost always my designated cocksleeve
>>537422316a proud small dick haver
Seelahs role? My personal comfort woman.
>>537420117>she's so heavily tuned into ray castingYou can't ray cast without lvl20 inciter or Magic Knight multiclass.
>>537422537Me on the left
I think Kineticist might be a tad broken
Am I the only one who builds ember as a hex bot? Going pure witch let's you have a ton of hexes to spam.
>>537422537Regill will bite your pp off
>>537422537>5'11" vs 6'0
I use mods to full respec Ember into a regular witch so she's not half-burned anymore :D
>>537422537Imagine
What am I supposed to do with a aBrown Fur transmuter mercenary during fights? I just skip his turns.
>>537417803Adahn...
>>537423235Hexes are mostly for turnbasedfags. Protective Luck and Cackle works okay in RTWP but I couldn't play an entire campaign listening to that cackle sound effect so I never do hex ember either.
>>537413112Based.She should’ve been a companion.
>>537423235Ember and Camellia are hexers through and through. It's the most valuable thing they contribute to the party.>>537424116Motherfucker it turns a 1/20 chance to hit into a 1/400 chance to hit. Hexes are THE thing that make real time combat work. there's a reason you can set cackle to autocast.
>>537422537Fully. Inside. Seelah.
What's his problem?
>>537425269go ask in the bg3 thread
>>537425269he's a Neutral evil vampire
>>537425269He is pretty much daeren but not cool
>>537425269He’s a faggot.
>>537425269He likes being evil
>>537425269The only actually evil companion in the game.
Ember hex moggs camellia btw.
>>537425269>6 disapprovals stay in this thread
I always kill astarion on principle because he is a filthy lawyer
>>537427219he is (was) a magistrate which is closer to a judgeprobably corrupt and evil as fuck though
>>537427479So he's basically male Jaethal except faggot
>>537427637nah, jaethal was>i got bored xDwhereas astarion was shanked by people who didn't like his rulings
I'll never forget wotc for failing to design Rangersthey're supposed to be the coolest warriors with animal companions, but instead they're just discount Fighters with Hunter's Markfucking dogshit ass class
>>537429201literally camellia
the crystal crabs put up a harder fight
>>537429330Oh really, is she also able to convince boys to do evil acts?
>>537429201>>537429839stop
Whats with this dude. Did Owlcat romances really mindbreak him
what is the deal with locking skills in tyranny? is there like a cap or limit that skills can reach?my initial assumption is that leveling works like oblivion, where skills will contribute to overall character level but with diminishing returns, making it harder to level important skills later on. how true is this?
>>537417910No saving, no resting, no stopping gigachad difficulty. Truly daring.So far everything went really well until the Mad Kellid charged Lann and downed him in one hit, and I missclicked one of Nenios snowballs into him which killed him. Then, SOMEHOW the archers on the battlements decided to shoot Daeran to death, I guess around the time the protection from arrows scroll expired.But I still have 1 res and a few heal scrolls so as long as I dont do any unecessary side-encounters I think I can beat Drezen. I just doubt I'll be level 9 by the time I do.
>>537429962You really think a girl like that should get 25 years for a lil murder?
Which game has the best gnomes?
>>537432409This was settled years ago
I do not understand the purpose of alignment. The only thing it seems to do is put all characters and creatures into a box for 'protection from/smite alignment' effects in combat. For roleplaying purposes, what is supposed to be the benefit?I can understand the idea of restricting certain dialogue options behind alignments (i.e. if you want to take this action, your character has to have made enough good choices on balance throughout the game so far otherwise the action isn't credible or something like that), but that's not what any of these games seem to do. Rather they seem to sprinkle totally inconsequential decisions ('execute the traitor!' vs 'he feared for his life, let him rejoin the ranks!') throughout the story, which serve no other purpose than to offer you opportunities to nudge your character's alignment in one direction or another.Why should anything in an RPG be based on your character being metaphysically 'good' or 'lawful,' rather than based on the actual particular decisions he or she made? Is alignment meant to be simply a shortcut to consequences because it's too difficult to make games react compellingly to the particular combination of decisions your character makes?
>>537433089[Evil] This post is correct
>>537433089>For roleplaying purposes, what is supposed to be the benefit?They're roleplaying shorthands. They can be a crutch or a useful guideline, although I can see why players would not see the value outside of roleplaying a Paladin in older editions.
>>537433089[Neutral Evil] I agree with this.
>>537433089t.
>>537433758It seems so painfully infantile as well. Plenty of interesting conflicts and moral quandries you might want to write into any sort of media, RPG or otherwise, involve characters who disagree over what the good or lawful thing to do is. But alignment systems can't express these circumstances except by arbitrarily branding one of the decisions good and the other evil.As far as morality goes, interesting roleplaying is surely based on the truth that the line between good and evil cuts through the heart of every person, and not labelling characters 'good' and 'evil' ahead of time.
>>537433089ok camellia
I'm playing through Planescape Torment right now.I just have to say: Fuck... we used to have it so good.What happened to this genre? Where did it all go wrong?
>>537435525Do remember that PST was the outlier, not the norm.
Okay I take it back, PoE1 does have a bad companion. The annoying fish barbarian from the DLC. Looking at who wrote her it makes complete sense. Thankfully I can sacrifice her for a stat boost.
What does this guy do besides rape using fire and multiattacks?
>>537436117What more is there to do in life?
>>537436117I'm confused. What are you trying to discuss exactly?
If slavery and murder can be used as punishments, why not rape?
If hese two tried to rape each other who would come out on top?
YEES! My victory is as good as assured!
name one good crpg
>>537436372You don't really want to discuss the moral principles that permit and forbid different punishments, do you?You just want to fantasize about raping prisoners.
>>537436762GTA San Andreas
I'll be honest I prefer the "I don't like you. Die!" options from pathfinder.
Uh oh. What counters dominate?
>>537436927Read the description of protection from evil.
>>537436762The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Special Edition) (modded)
>>537437287Crazy to think that from the very beginning Morrigan knew the plan was to bear the Grey Warden's child. Kind of strange that she doesn't do more to understand them. The warden has to do all of the initiation himself.
Uh-huh... I forgot I didn't need to kill the balor, just survive for a few rounds. Still, I'm sure I could've downed him with his see invisibility negated.
>>537436117Nurah correction is needed
>>537437072Oh, good, right. I had protection from Chaos up so same thing. Strange that it didn't affect that NPC.
>>537437836>"The dagger was supposed to kill him on the spot!"nice job GAY BORE
>>537438889Indeed, that wasn't very.... professional.
>>537436870You don't want to discuss the moral principles that permit and forbid different punishments, do you? You just want to fantasize about murdering and torturing prisoners.
>>537437616the plan was for her mom to body swap with her so she could live forever
Best portrayal of a LG character in rpgs?
>>537442954
>>537443126Our Lady Amane
I do wonder where this one gets character's age categories from, because I have half a mind to buff Nenio with it to Intmaxx I doubt she'll immediately become of venerated ageNow that I think of it, I could also cast it on Ember so I could finally ||use|| her ||casting abilities more effectively||
>>537442641Morrigan says that having a child was the plan from the start.
>>537443421Holy shit I fucked up badly, I will stick to Camposting from now on
CRPG where the girl commits murder out of love and jealousy?
>>537443421is that spell dlc? sounds dope as fuck, the same effect is in the islands dlc as one of the island curses
What's generally a fun and self sufficient class in Kingmaker?
>>537444059Kineticist
>>537443884Nop, it's from Expanded Content (I think) so it's taken straight from the TTRPG (which is where the inspiration for the curse comes from)>>537444059Kineticist is the only correct answer
>>537443878>Murdered someone, then used her sister's identity to flee the country, then got plastic surgery to change how she looked. She did ALL this instead of just finding a new boyfriend. Absolute insanity.Will a girl ever love you this much in a Computer Role Playing Game?
>>537437616Men like it better if you let them initiate Her mom told her this
>>537444059Personally I found Kineticist the boring class of all the classes in both KM/WotR, so I'd disagree with anons on the "fun" side of things.I'd say Aldori Swordlord for a mix of fun and holding your own, it can also be also thematic to the story at least in your own head.
You know what really fucked the entire Pathfinder system? Dice checks. It turned it from a tactics game to a buffing number crunching abomination where two wizards of the same level casting the exact same spell can have orders of magnitude difference in damage or effectiveness.Compare that to AD&D where if you saw a web spell then that shit's a threat no matter if it's coming from a 3rd level or a 30th level wizard. Similarly if that 1st level fighter grabs you then all of your spells go out the window so you'd better take them seriously. And you only. have like 15 hp so if that rogue sneaks up on you you're gonna get one shot.
>>537446890I've seen a few Swordlord builds, seems fun and given that your suger mommy is a Swordlord herself it seems thematic. Besides I have kineticist covered with the tiefling sisters.
>>537436545guessing your party theme is "annoying bitches" and seelah is out of frame
>>537436545cam isn't a carpet muncher (neither literal nor figurative)
>>537448056What are you talking about? High level casters in AD&D rape. I'll never forget meandering into the lair of a lich somewhere in BG2 and experiencing the joys of Time Stop.
>>537436545wenduagshe'd eat cam silly and then hump her face like a rabbit afterward
This guy is a weirdo who is just wasting my time. Spell slots attempting to dispel his bullshit. Was I supposed to use the Good dialogue to get him to back off?
>>537448934Cammers is canonically more powerful than shitdog
>>537436545Cam has access to high level spells, shaman hexes and is tanky as fuck. Also Cam only "plays with her food" if they are men. She's not into scissoring, and even if she was it wouldn't be Wenduag given how disgusted she is by mongerls in genera.
>>537448916The point is that AD&D doesn't go crazy with the modifiers. A fireball is a fireball. It caps out at 10d6 and the saving throw never changes.There's no giant library of feats or complicated system of stacking buffs. You have your set of tools and how effective they are depends on your brain not your build.
>>537449075No way to avoid fighting him. Just targeting his touch AC would be easier than trying to dispel all his buffs.
>>537449162since when
>if you center the camera on them, Irabeth and her crusader buddy are stuck in a never ending fight against demons>they keep getting hit but will never die>the pool of blood keeps getting larger and largerI assume it will despawn some of the older splatters after a while, but after 5 minutes this is a pretty impressive display of vigour on their part>>537449075He's as retarded as his brother is, so he will never back down no matter whatHe's probably the first big AC block in the game so you gotta bring all your buffs and pray for the best; at least his actual damage is kinda dogshit so he can never hit a buffed Seelah, and it turns into a very long tickle fight till you get a couple of crits
>>537450124>>537449729Nah Halon just destroyed him with ice blasts after about 20 turns. The spell resistance was annoying but he hits on a 2, eventually the idiot just ran out of hitpoints.
>>537433089It's a rule of thumb for NPCs, for the player is utterly detrimental.>>537435018This would also prevent the player from discussing morality with the game/developers.>this action is not "evil", your god disapproves of itVideo games could easily have a reputation system, so when clerics and paladins lose reputation with their gods beyond a certain threshold, they would lose their powers. But they would still be seen as a good person by most NPCs.
I just realised I made a shitty decision in a dialogue after a grueling dungeon dive that took me like 4 hours, would I be a faggot if I reload an earlier save and speedrun it in storymode?
I can't believe how common it is to look up "build guides"I wouldn't be able to look at myself with any sense of dignity, personally. Imagine cucking yourself out of one of the fundamental and most enjoyable aspects of CRPGs, not to mention getting exposed to all kinds of spoilers... Just, wow, completely pathetic really.
>>537451424But don't you want to have 98 AC and crit 5/10?
>>537451381Yes you can't load the game you have to uninstall and reinstall a week or a year later like a hardcore gamer
What dip should I take for hex bot ember?
Alright! You finally got that awesome CRPG you've heard so much about, and wow everyone seems to love it. Can't wait to really get into it. And now the true beginning is here, that beautiful moment full of possibility: Now you decide the role that you'll play!>n-n-n-n-no I b-b-better just l-look it up on l-l-line
>>537451381toybox murderhobo>>537451585eldritch knight so she can use a reach weapon + Frightful Aspect>>537451801playing games that are popular enough to have online guides was your first mistake
>>537451640Once you get Cackle, Evil Eye, Fortune and Protective luck you jave basically run out of good Hexes for her. You can get all that with like 10 Levels in Witch. I usually build her as 10 Witch/1 Sorcerer/9 Loremaster, because the witch's spellbook is pretty poor and getting spells from other classes via Loremaster Secrets is really really good.
Can't wait to play a role in skyblivion
Why does adwr enkindle some absolutely polar, vocal opinions? It's just a coom mod
It's over. I got as far as this. There's no healing, no useful crowd control spells, Daeran is dead, no buffs...The game obviously wants me to rest before going inside the citadel. That makes no sense to me but I can't keep playing the same level over and over.
>>537456295Basically if you see a 'rest point' you should use it. The game does NOT account for narrative correctly. Although it makes since to do the entire siege in a day and most dungeons as well, the balance isn't designed around that. So if there's any kind of sanctified area/corruption reduction assume you're expected to use it.
>>537456512There were 5 rest points in Drezen. How lame do people have to be to use all of them? Rofl. And you fags call me bad.
How viable is it to rely on potions of Shield of Faith and Barkskin?
>>537457479>shield of faithPointless because it will never be better than a protection from evil/chaos>barkskinVery good but not available for purchase when it matters.
>>537456295I've done drezen many times without resting but i'd also just reload if one of my party got unluckily gibbed or something.
>>537456295Have you killed Blight Maw yet?
Imagine playing a tabletop session and the GM says>You arrive to a great hall where you see a great banner depicting a sword at the end, guarded by some low level cultists and one minotaur>>Well obviously that isn't the real banner, let's go down this hallway instead>You run into a half-fiend furious raging assault minotaur who charges and instantly downs one of you! Roll initiative>>Fuck ok, hit him with a grease and take turns cutting him while he's down, then get through the hallway>>You walk into a room with a huge cesspool and massive number of ghouls start coming out, including archer ghouls!>>Fuck ok, Nenio cast a spiked trap to stagger their approach, buff me with some blur and protection from arrows, Daeran use your last charge of bless, Lann focus on the wounded once for extra cleaving shot damage>Once you thin out the ghouls, a Nabasu teleports in and starts sucking you for levels and life! The ghouls got Daeran! He's DEAD!>>Um, what happened to his mysterious protector entity?>It was sleeping!>>Ok fuck it Lann kite the Nabasu around while the kinecist uses his last burn to blizzard it to death, we've got to be almost->A Vrock is about to teleport into the room but then the old lady you freed stabs it in the back in a very cool scene, then tells you to follow her to the banner while asking you if you find the demons interesting>>I stab the old lady>No, you can't stab the lady. You go where the old lady leads you, and you see a few gargoyle traps shooting acid and ice in front of a chest>>Ok we>A new kind of abyssal outsider you've never seen before teleports into the room and kills you all. Roll new characters.
>>537185910Is normal, TTRPG Pathfinder as buff and CC heavy as WotR is? I cannot imagine this shit is fun to keep track of in a tabletop setting.>Having to apply a dozen buffs before you can fight + follow timers to see when they need to be renewed>AC is all about stacking it from as many sources as possible in increments of 3 to 7ish points usually>Same with your hit bonuses, damage dice, spell save DCs, and spell piercing>CMB, CMD, save scores, etc. all need to be worked out whenever you apply a ton of buffs too>Tossing out chaining CC and several attacks a round with a shitload of damage die = constant rollingLike, genuinely, how the fuck do people manage this?
>>537458115Hell fucking no I saw that room, remembered my last playthrough, turned around and walked the fuck away. And I had fireballs in my last playthrough.
>>537459265Monster stats are extremely inflated in WotR at least on Core or higher. Also I think your DM would just let you sit outside the boss' room just buffing up without consequence.
>>537185910why does this general still pretend to be for CRPGs at large instead of just being the designated Owlcat thread with a focus on Pathfinder?
Is anyone else actually excited for The Outer Worlds 2?
>>537459265high-level 1e can be a fucking bitch because of these issues but WotR makes them a lot worse because Owlcat buffed the fuck out of monsters and balanced the game with the expectation that above the default difficulty you are doing optimised builds and loadouts with proper buff application if you've ever done a playthrough on a low difficulty with auto-builds and gotten through most fights with auto-attacks and the odd party-wide buff that's how most people actually play it with a permissive DM who doesn't want to have a TPK
>>537459969Do those permissive DM's allow people to reload their saves if the party gets unlucky and wipes? Because if you don't buff consistently and build well, sooner or later you'll die on normal too.
WOTR peaks in the hallway before Staunton in Act 2
>>537460287I was thinking more Story or Casual than Normal. But yeah a permissive DM can fudge dice rolls to let you dodge attacks or get hit for less damage, nerf monsters on the fly, deliberately have them act sub-optimally, quietly erase planned encounters if your resources are getting too low, house-rule feats working different to help you, etc. so they're able to do a lot.
>>537459861If they can keep the quality up through the game instead of massively dropping the ball after the first planet like the first one sure
>>537461080>can fudge dice rolls to let you dodge attacks or get hit for less damageMay as well just play make-believe and start sucking each other off at that point
>>537461410>May as well just play make-believeI've got really bad news for you about what TTRPGs are, anon
>>537461410What do you think rp stands for
>>537457858>Pointless because it will never be better than a protection from evil/chaosthey stack actually, I believe, even though they're both deflection.>>537457479Barkskin yes because even though the scrolls/potions will be low-level it's still a fair amount of time, the shield of faith (and protection from evil/chaos) are too short-lived to fiddle with so much imo. Communal poison is another good one to use from consumable all game, but I wouldn't bother with the round/level ones
>>537459861I'm definitely not exited but if the reception seems good I'll give it a try.
>>537435525Change of generation. The writers of present-day slop have not grown up reading books, at least not good books. They have nothing in their heads to draw on, no fresh ideas to contribute.
>>537459265>>537458918Honestly? It sounds like you're playing at too high of a difficulty for your skill level. I know that hurts to hear. But I didn't do most of that even on my most recent Hard playthrough. Granted I know the mechanics of the game well by now, but I honestly don't think that level of precise care needs to be taken even on Core, let alone Normal.>computer games and tabletop are different holy shit mindblownI guess I'm not sure what you expect? I've got lots of complaints about WotR (and every game I enjoy, basically) but none of them are as stupid as "A computer isn't a human GM"
>>537461853>will be low-level Does Mythic Brew Potions fix this?
>>537461853>they stack actually, I believe, even though they're both deflection.Prove it.
>>537462112There's no fucking skill level in crpgs you fucking tiresome retard, neck yourself.
>>537462530There is in RTWPYou have to micro your guys, kite enemies etc
>>537462282Okay, there's a distinction to be made here. The potions of Shield of Faith and whatever else you find around in the world will be very low level potions through the whole game, so these will just give you a few rounds of Shield of Faith. Brew Potions will let you make your own potions, which are *at your current caster level*. Same with Scribe Scrolls. You can also scribe/brew metamagic, as a note. So this means you could in theory brew Shield of Faith potions that would last longer than the ones you find in the wild, though that would be a bit of a waste as there's much better stuff. And in general, I'd recommend Scribe Scrolls over Brew Potions, but that's just me. The trade-off of course is needing CMD for scrolls, but anyone can drink (or pour into someone else's mouth, in fact) a potion. So basically it's as if the vast number of potions/scrolls you find in the world were made by someone 1st-5th level or so, you can think of it that way maybe.If you have Nenio, starting at level 10 she gets to use scrolls as if they're at her level. So suddenly a piece of shit Shield of Faith that would normally last 6 seconds, would now go for a minute. (still not great, but you see how it works.)
>>537462530And yet some struggle and """need""" to spend tons of time pre-buffing and savscumming while others don't. Curious, isn't it.Just play on Normal bro, there's no shame in it.
Million dollar idea, pathfinder game but designed around turnbased.
>>537462530There's no skill at all, yet you are struggling and failing while the rest of us can easily clear hard without dying because we understand the game and the strategy and we also don't need to worry about buffs at all because we have an addon do it for us. Curious.
Yep, its Wrath time.
>>537459861No. I never beat the first
>>537463652team turnbased at that
>>537464290>team turnbasedDoes this mean we go they go?
>>537464545yeah
Pathfinder game but the combat is similar to bg3.
You can get two extra physical stat boosts if you decide to be a filthy thief
>>537464587Personally I hate that system. Much too swingy with alpha strikes, and God forbid if there's CC.Much better is simultaneous turns IMO. If (You) or lurkers are unaware, that's when everyone declares their actions at the start, then everything is resolved. Typically actions have various speeds, so casting happens near the end and can be interrupted for example. In a video game it's much easier to track and implement this error-free.
>>537465186I like the alpha strikey nature of Wrath. There's a lot of tension because the enemy can do horrible things if they manage to get one.
>>537463181>>537463797Samefag
>>537464795Don't worry the next pathfinder game will be a bg3 clone.
>>537465510>>537465510
>>537465541>Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue TraderAlphabetized
i dropped tyranny after less than an hour because my adhd-addled zoomer brain couldn't handle the low fantasy setting (i've done like 5 playthroughs of lich for reference)nonetheless i can say with great certainty that verse was absolutely a plappable underlevelled hebe and i would like nothing more than to push her down and violate her while she wails and kiss her and hug her and possess her
