The west (and FMC) has fallen edition >News Ascension has Bronzebeard+ or BBC+ for short and some people are playing on it so check it out now! 15/08/2025 : Turtle Wow has just released 1.18.0, Scars of the Past. This update brings a lot of new changes, such as new zones, dungeon extensions, MC extension and bosses changes, new items and updated loot. Updated classes, rated PvP arenas and more! 17/08/2025 : Turtle's new realm Ambershire is out along Epoch's Kezan, Gurubashi and Menethil! >Released Servers Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Classless, Reborn Classic+, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch) Azerotica - https://azerotica.net (ERP Classic+) Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive) Mistblade 3 (Sheilun) - https://stormforge.gg/en (MOP Progressive) Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive) Project Epoch - https://www.project-epoch.net/ (Vanilla+) Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (MoP, pre-patch and WoD areas in near future) Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+) Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (TBC, WOTLK, MoP) WotLK5Man - https://wotlk5.com (WotLK) >Guilds To join a guild, type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, and whisper anyone for an invite once you're above level 5. <Evil> - Turtle WoW, Ambershire realm, crossfaction <Totally Nice Dudes> - Bronzebeard+, Ascension, whisper Kott >Turtle Vanilla client enhancements - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Client_Fixes_and_Tweaks (most servers forbid them) Curated list of addons that should work in Turtle - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons Misc - https://database.turtle-wow.org | https://talents.turtle-wow.org | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtle-timer.vercel.app >Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations https://pastebin.com/4Awe3bxX >Previous Thread >>536859758
FMC sisters... Not like this...
>>537054731do people really do that? i can't get hard to poorly written smut knowing the other guy is a guy
>>537055068Yea, it's roleplay, not sex. Half the time I don't even jerk off because I am too busy typefucking.
All united under the same bannerWe'll reach the highest levelAnd we'll KILL THE BEAST !!!!!!!!!!!https://youtu.be/0ypxAKDMfFA?si=RdlRCIJeTkYMyZcV
>>536887046That Gilneas map was made by retards who can't mapNorthwind was literally stolen from Duskhaven files as Grim Reaches which is a unfinished zoneThe Helf zone looks terrible since those fags cant give a fuck about mapping the upper map areaAnd their new zone in wetlands is garbage>>536884616Yeah, have shenna pay some botters and multiboxers as she does, maybe people will do dungeons and not resort to wintrade to win on pvp, maybe even the world boss mafia will cease to exist, oh wait, she does that on turtle for near 2 years
>>537055395What the fuck was her problem?
>>537054491Why was <Branded> removed from the OP?
Any recommendations for iron? I need more stones and they're fucking expensive on the AH
>>537056380>That Gilneas map was made by retards who can't mapIt's the prettiest zone in the game retard
>>537057529It looks like a fucking tumor spawned off cataclysm not >pic as God intended to be.
ive never played a shaman. whats their tool that makes them impossible to die while leveling assuming you arent a retard like how warrior has piercing howl/hamstring
>>537058503talented spirit wolf, earthbind totem, frostshock
>>537057529No point in replying to schizos
alright im tired of grouping with complete shitters and third worlderswhats the /wpsg/ approved guild and who do I whisper to get in
so they left some/all building models of the old high elf starting area in loch modansure takes me out of my IMMERSION running through this out-of-place environment with no people or quests
>>537058987/wpsg/ guilds are worse than random shitters
>>537058987Join <Branded>, it’s the official 4chan guild on Ambershire.
I'm a newfag, but I always hear about Scarlet Monastery being really good XP or whatever. QRD?
>>537059724There are like 4 dungeons there. So you spend like 10 levels doing those.
i changed look of peegirl againcuz older one had so damn low-energy face on goblin face, now this is the final
>>537058987If you wish to kill the beast, the answer lies in the OP. /w Aecheur while I'm up
>>537060092me on the left
>>537059708>literal troon guildA—ACK!! yourself.
>>537060092This u?
>>537060574Yes, how's Epoch going?
>>537060574>only options are troon guild or guild run by some schizo obsessed with epochgrim
>>537054116As someone who actually uses semicolons and em dashes in writing, I hate that the combination of AI shit and the general populace's extremely poor English has made people think this way. The rambling and repetitiveness of that guy's character bio is more suspect imhofam, but it's cringe regardless.
>>537060037deleted cuz not smilingbye peegirl
>>537061647There is another dead giveaway that it is AI. There's a special character used that no one normally use.
are the classes very different in turtle compared to regular vanilla?
What the actual fuck is their problem?
>>537060558Where do you think you are exactly, reddit tourist?
>>537063287Every talent tree is different and every classes meant to be balanced in PVE, with exotic stuff like melee hunter and shaman tank doing good, but there's still the vanilla spirit I'd say. For exemple, Arcane mage is one of the most changed class in Turtle, with 3 new spells, but its bread & butter is still arcane missiles.
Northwind is so romantic I would kind of like to do romantic roleplays there. Just things like kissing, cuddling and holding hands...
>>537063197What was it? I've missed it, both on my initial read and just now skimming over it again looking for it.>inb4 it's just a fucking hyphen
what's the faction balance on ambershire?
>>537061104I'm an epoch schizo and I'm good at it I like epoch, I regret getting ragebaited there
Amberbros.. i got my first black lotus. I know they are not as rare here but it still felt like i was transported back in time to 2019 when i would do my rounds in winterspring collecting herbs. Such comfy times.
Removing FMC from the OP makes sense as it's an inactive guild.Removing Branded from the OP doesn't make sense as it's an active guild.Just seems like Evil is insecure and afraid of competition.
1 - 5 priest6 - 0 sham
How does the Vagrant challenge work? If you can only equip items you created yourself. You have to go with something that creates you both weapons and armor.Which is fine for a warrior or a paladin that levels blacksmithing and mines ore. But as a hunter? Or a mage? You'd have to go with two crafting professions and rely on the auction house to buy all the mats.
>enter Desolace>"Lok'tar Ogar fellow zugzug! Please get Honored rank with one of two centaur tribes by killing 200 of the opposing centaur tribeJesus... tell me this is the worst zone in the game because I can't handle anything worse.
>>537057151>>537064541Aecheur is assmad because a tranny refused to ERP with him so he removed Branded from the OP like a faggot.
>>537064796jewelcrafter can create stavesengineers can create gunsenchanters can create wands
I joined <Evil> and left after 15 minutes. The vibes gave me the ick.
>>537064796Don't forget, you have to create your own BAGS too.
>>537065431Leak screenshots
>>537056746Wanted to protect her baby boy Nefarion a bit too much. Also Deathwing made her go cuckoo. She probably got wet when she saw Alex being raped by orcs too
>>537065173Yes but look you'd need ore as a jewelcrafter right? Normally you can mine it yourself by going mining as a second profession. But you can't take that profession since you HAVE to go tailor to make yourself robes.So you'd have to rely completely on the auction house for almost all the resources you need.
>>537065085It's one of the best zones in the game because while you're grinding the enemy centaurs you can kill filthy alliance farming the opposite centaurs that are right outside the horde town
>>537065431This never happened.
>>537063940No, it is quite close to the normal one, but wow font render it slightly differently, that's how I usually spot LLM writing.
>>537063917Cuuuute..>Mwah~Would set up a campfire and fish with u
>>537063917Fuck off Elaynna
>>537064541>>537065125While I appreciate the guys and lasses at <Branded> a lot, I don't think their kind of guild is the same as we are used here, it's mostly filled with ERPers and full casuals, I don't think everyone here is fit for the team
>>537063917What's the name of your new character?
>>537066131ESL
>>537066131<Evil> is mostly the same.
>>537065797Oh. Yeah, it is pretty damn short. I just assumed that was how the font handled hyphens, but I have been skipping quest text since I discovered Thottbot.
>>537066131This they are not /wpsg/ guild and must be removed
>NO YOU CAN'T JOIN THAT OTHER ANON GUILD YOU HAVE TO JOIN MY GUILDVery gay of you Aecheur
>>537065959Thanks that'd be comfy and nice...>Chuu~>>537065959Who's that? Never heard of her.>>537066147Aryan Zugslayer
>>537067701Fuck off Elaynna
>>537067370proof?
branded is a private, invite-only spinoff guild from the sexpest clique in fmc. branded is not a /wpsg/ guild, it's a /heals/ guild. it's also a guild filled with trannies and erp and should be avoided.
>>537068136no one is joining <evil> no matter how much you shit up the thread you retard
>>537056132I'm playing warrior which is one of the weaker classes at that lvl, I bg'd a lot even as a low lvl and ran the flag but outside of hamstring and bash spam, I couldn't kill anything so being 19 with a DM weapon and a ton of good stam gear was going to actually let me actually play the game outside of being a interrupt and flag running bot.
>>537058705>earthbind totemnice, didnt know they had this
>evil is shitting up the thread crying about branded after removing them from the op
https://community.tauriwow.com/index.php?/topic/9923/I guess prepatch is happening soon
>>537063917Does your father know you're a faggot who gets turned on by other men?
>>537068558Based <Evil> for removing the troondle filth from the op!
>>537068835>calling yourself "based"Cringe as fuck dude. Keep crying though.
Adding a line to the OP redirecting people who want ERP to the ERP thread and guild would be a win–win for everyone. Calling them competition in the first place is silly. The same goes for FMC, it’s just another playing field. May the Evil scribe writing the next OP agree or not with that.May those who lie about me or the guild be sidelined, or join a fun-not-allowed minmaxx club.We're here to kill the beast.
>>537068958This. It was made clear in past OPs that <Branded> is an ERP guild from /heals/. So I don't get the problem with having it in the OP or why it would be removed. If anons want that then they should go there.
>>537068372Who do I whisper for invite to evil? I tried to join a few days ago but no one I asked invited me.
>>537069219Ask Girlcorpse for an invite to the guild.
>>537069308ohnononononoon
>>537069308Ok I will when I login in about an hour
peegirl(final form)
>>537069637Perfect for <Branded>
>>537068737You can join us if you like
>>537070394Fuck off Elaynna
>>537067701Was meant for>>537065843
>>537069219=> >>537060092
I’m not in either guild, so I have no dog in this fight, but Branded doesn’t belong in the OP.
Any other alliance anons want to do 20-29 BGs together on ambershire?I'm going to tank a ton of dungeons soon if you need gear.
I have nothing against Branded and I would consider them a sister guild to Evil. With that said, they are a /heals/ guild, not /wpsg/.
>>537071748So, in other words, they’re an anon guild, and thereforebeit should be given space in the OP.
>>537071748/heals/ and /wpsg/ are married despite being bros and sis
Am I still welcome in the ERP guild even if I don’t want to ERP, or even do so much as flirt?
>>537073378Its a very laid back guild Anon people don't take anything so serious there.
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
>>537073785Nonny???
>>537073785wrong thread bro?
>>537067701Wanna met up later, anon? We could chat, grind a bit, perhaps fish a lil and roll in Northwind grass..
>>537070394https://vocaroo.com/1Hv5LNphnrHd
>>537073785>another flopnot looking so good, valvesisters...
>>537070463Elaynna is gone, mate. Not everyone who posts anime pictures is Elaynna. Why are you fags so obsessed with him anyway?
>>537077143>Elaynna is goneHe still plays a couple different characters on Ambershire and posts in this thread.
>>537078104the other day I posted my toon with one of the default names from the random generator and got called elaynna
>>537073785oops sorry wrong thread i had it opened on my broswer as well
>>537078601And you're still crying about it
>>537078601welcome to /vg/newfag psychotic spamming niggers in every thread like this little 14-25 year old newfag nigger bitch >>537080773
>>537080857Calm down baby boy
>>537080919don't @ me with your typical newfag vagueries newfag nigger shut the fuck up i will beat you
>>537078601Ok? But Elaynna still plays the game on Ambershire. Posted >>536890326 and >>536897071 last thread about his elf hunter.
Did Turdle make any changes so that priest is more engaging while leveling? Or should I just roll a hybrid to heal?
>>537081223>the tantrum continueslmao
>>537081441>newfag nigger cries like a bitchgoing down the checklist of newfaggotry i see
>>537081583>newfag nigger cries like a bitchDescribing yourself there
>>537081609>no uxDD
>>537081716smugbutcryinginsidewojak.bmp
>>537081306What's her character name? I should plap her.
>>537081914Ask him on discord.
>>537081825>wojakwe already established your appalling newfaggotry LMAO
>>537081989She blocked me for stupid reasons.
>>537082064>he's still cryingWow kid you can really throw a fit
>>537082226what does you coming to 4chan after 2016 have to do with world of warcraft, little newfag niggerGPT?
>>537082339Drink a cup of water and take a break
Elaynna seems cute, why do we hate her again?
>>537081306Proof that's Elaynna?
>>537082409"We" don't. A vast majority of the anons posting in this thread have never met Elaynna ingame and have no clue who the fuck he is beyond what's posted in this thread.
>>537082135What were the reasons?
Which skin tone? This is the last thread I'll ask in but it's really bothering me. I really want your opinions.
>>537084395Right.
>quest reward equipment has no level requirement What? I guess these are valuable if you want another char if you cant use it. Is there a way to get levelless gear at max level tho? Can I sell these?
Best Paladin leveling spec for hardcore that wants to tank dungeons? I assume just go into Prot or something
>>537084395Night Elves will always be purple to me. Which is cool because purple is the best color.
>>537084708They're all bind on pickup so you can't trade or sell them etc.
>>537084395gotta be purple
What's up with subtlety being a support spec over on turtle? Is it any fun to play compared to combat or ass?
after northwind where should i go? are any of the other custom zones around level 30
>>537087936you try balor or grim reaches yet?
I got mail?
>>537089384>Dear Son,>You are a complete disappointment.>Mom should have aborted you.>Sincerely, Dad>PS. You will never be a woman.
>>537089384Do you just play this game to rp as a woman?
>>537086910I enjoy it but some people hate it
>>537089384You will never be a woman.
>Bind on pickup recipe that makes bind on pickup itemWhat the fuck is the point of this shit just let me make something that I can sell
>>537090239No.
>>537090239Yeah no.
>>537089546>>537089615>>537089747Who hurt you?
>>537091296You can just say yes
Been playing and enjoying WOTLK5 for the past few weeksWas wondering what was the consensus on TBC5? Is there a reason why it's not included in the sticky?
>>537086761>>537084815>>537084539Alright, purple it is.
>>537091590I had several friends that played TBC5. Pretty sure they were enjoying it but lost a member to real life shit or something, and that's what made them quit. Don't think they quit 'cause of gameplay issues.
>>537081404That giant bee farm aspect is never explored not even in Mulgore.
a sturdy pair of shoulder armor is what every girl wants!
Rest in peace FMC. You were a fun guild.
FULL MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>537057151their gm asked me to remove it as their members were getting trolled by people from evil
>>537098719This never happened.
>>537098304Why'd it suddenly disappear overnight?
>>537099074It didn't disappear overnight.
>>537098719>Hello is this random anon? I would like you to remove my guild from /wpsg/'s OP. Why yes I do happen to magically know that you're going to make the next OP.
>>537099291we share a discord and i've been baking the ops for a while
>>537097153Epoch refugees? Cringe.
>>537101129Post screencaps of the conversation then.
>>537098719
>wake up>want to play turtle and not epochI hope epoch is good in a year or so and I can revisit it.
>>537099074It didn't disappear overnight, people just moved on to other things and the guild just slowly petered out.Which for 4chan guilds is argueably the best ending you can have. Its either that or the guild breaking down over some schizophrenic drama. No inbetweens.
>>537099074It was dying for months beforehand from drama posting driving decent players away, the people who stayed lacking the skill to clear content, and those people eventually burning out when they see low raid turnouts and bad progress
>>537068136>sexpestnigga just turn your monitor off
>>537105810That's so funny Zaptuah
>>537105876yeah it is when you think about it.
>>537105564FMC was always like that. The dramaposts were constant from the very beginning. People were constantly coming and going. Raid attendance was always fairly low. They cleared content up until the very end.>>537099074The guild ended because everyone has finally moved on. They either went to Epoch, Ambershire, or are doing something else. After 9 months of raiding (although very few raided for the entire 9 months) they want something new.
>>537106063>They cleared content up until the very end.Your KT kill?
>>537068136cool, how do I get an invite?
>>537106130FMC cleared everything up to C'thun along with a portion of Naxx which is content. "Until the very end" meant the end of the guild not the end of WoW content, which on Turtle doesn't end at Naxx anyhow.
>>537106201/who g-"Branded"/whisper anyone in the guild.If you're too low level you can post your character's name in /heals/ and ask for an invite there. Otherwise level to 5.
>>537055395What's with this Disney shit? It's gay as fuck.
>>537105474this is fucking hilarious to read btw
>>537099074Epoch and Ambershire released, so some anons decided to play FRESH rather than run the same raids they've been running for months while others decided to move on from the game entirely.
>>537058987I dont group with orcs or trolls. If i get them in same group i just leave and let them find another healer. Tauren and goblinas are chill but every orc and troll player have been mentally disabled.
>>537107330i like trolls if they're not a warrior/shaman but orc players are guaranteed jajas
when is <evil> merging with their brother guild <branded>?
Why are there two reputation quartermasters in Alah'Thalas?
>>537058987Join <evil>. We do dungeons.
I made a Tauren shaman.
lvl 20 on my hardcore slow and steady exhaustion paladin......1/3 to 60, this is EASY
>>537115612DOUBTER BROS I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EASY WIPE, WHAT WENT WRONG?
>>537115526resto?
I will miss raiding with you guys
>>537117693go back to raven cocksucker
>>537117693With Ambie, kino is back on the menu
>>537115526based soldier of Allah. better rape those early bracket paladins
>>537115285
Are there any anon still playing on Nord?
So what are the current ERP Hotspots?
>>537119661TurtleRP directory
>join guild>nobody talks in guild chat>nobody quests or dungeons togetherwhats even the point
>>537120029Were you talking? Did you express any interest in befriending these people or running dungeons with them? You're not the main character, anon, you need to be put in the effort socially as well.
>>537120336yes i talked and tried asking if people needed things or wanted to do things i needed and no response barely anyone speaks so no you are jumping to the wrong conclusion for no reason
>>537120672what guild?
>>537120725<Branded>
>>537120754then join a different one, every erp focused thing will form into a bunch of cliques
>>537120754>>537120928im not in branded dumbass
Anyone up for some comfy dungeon spam?
>tank a dungeon>we bant during a dungeon>healers love me because i'm a good tank, we quest together, we do more dungeons together>dps love me because i don't need dps gear, i can get picky and only invite the ones that did good and won't compete for my loottake the tankpill
>join guild>see who's at my level>whisper them to do dungies>we do dungiescan't stop winning
>>537120754This never happened.
>>537122093>im busy lvling sorry
>>537122034>tank a dungeon>we cant bant during the dungeon because there are 3 russians and 1 brazilian in the party>healer is drunk and passes out autorunning against the wall>have to kick him and find a replacement>dps start fighting over rare boe that drops>one of them leaves>have to look for a replacement againthe tankpill is hard to swallow
>>537124121what level are you? i'm mostly getting good experiences whenever i make a party through general chat or use rdf
>>537124121But what you're mentioning has nothing to do with you tanking?
>>537122034Maybe that works as a paladin tank but as a warrior tank you are constantly pulling so there is no time for banter unless you're all in VC.
>>537125045i'm not a paladin tank and also constantly pulling
>>537091590It used to be in the op months ago
>>537125242So you are constantly pulling and fighting but somehow have time to type and read chat while cycling targets and spamming abilities to maintain aggro? I don’t buy it.
>>537125861mark your mobs and get some thorns and you can literally stay on one mob until it dies if the dps follow the mark
>>537125992Except that won’t work as a warrior.
>>537125992>bro thornst. never tanked anything past lvl 25
>>537125992improved thunderclap is better aoe aggro than anything paladin has
I might join a guild. How is Zug Zug? I want a chill casual turbo normie dad gamer guild and I see Zug Zug's advertisements spammed nonstop in the pink chats.
>>537127484Um what?
Mithril respawns in 5 min in Gilneas there's nodes everywhere, wtf
>>537128078>he doesnt knowno wonder you struggle...
>>537128147Yea we know about it since over a year, slowpoke.
>>537127646not an anon guild
>see someone fighting mobs I need for a quest>invite them>they join>they are a Druid and 5 levels above me so they are swoocing far ahead of me and killing everything for me while I just have the time to send out one Earthshock I feel like a parasite :(
>>537081404Bumping my question.
>>537128248I've raided and done dungeons as both classes, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, consecration maybe deals as much threat as in 2-3 ticks on top of having actual scaling and no target cap
Thinking of rolling a Troll Hunter and how does the pet leveling up work exactly? If I wanted then could I just tame a level 10 boar and take it up to 60 or would I have to recapture and tame different animals every so often?
>>537130943Lmao no wonder why warriors suck at everything. Dumb niggers.
shaman tank status?
>>537131089>If I wanted then could I just tame a level 10 boar and take it up to 60Yes you can do that
>>537130943don't bother he is a trolling retard
>>537131089Yes you can stick with the same pet until 60. You'll have to tame other pets to get higher ranks of spells (Bite, Claw, Stealth, etc). Use those spells a few times, your hunter will learn them and they'll go into your pet training spellbook. You can then transfer them to your main pet
>>537056380Funny story, last evening I hopped on epoch, and checked bot kezan and guru. Kezan was at 4k and Guru was at 2k. I am sincerely impressed at the absolute crash out of that server. People already asking about Bronze Beard's launch date. I feel like epoch had a lot of potential, but they've made some severe mistakes and fuck ups, and so even after getting a stable servers solution thru Ascension, their incompetence at everything else is now on full display. People are exiting the server, they're down to 1 pve and 1 pvp, both also showing catastrophic pop loss rates. People are realizing the custom raid gear is busted as fuck. People are realizing the custom pvp gear is busted as fuck. The endless bugged quests and bugged dungeons, etc. It's a bad look and people are exiting fast. And it's because they hype was all built around it being a "solution" to all the other private wow servers out there. Epoch was the one ring to rule them all according to you faggots. Epoch would save private servers and save vanilla+. Instead, you're here coping and crying and seething. Tranny or not, Turtle won the pve battle, and after seeing guru at 2k last night I think turtle will soon even win the pvp war, even tho they were never really trying. But yes please go to bronze beard or whatever other savior private server you hive minds decide is the next best thing and stay away from turtle. I know if I ever ran a private server of my own, I'd want you fucks as far away from my server as possible.
>VVALLKRAFT release dateEarly beta in 2030 for the NSDAP's ascent to politics 100 year anniversary.Release in 2033 after TKD, TTD, TID and TND world wide.Sovrce? I contacted VVALL through esoteric aryan dreams.
>>537134351It went wrong when they even tried to get a "big launch", every amateur game dev know the importance of starting small. Epoch should have started at a low population, and grow over time, now I don't know if it can grow from here as the apple is already rotten as the server appeals to autists who think PvP is not just a minigame in the MMORPG, but an end all be all trve display of skill (bullying less geared players in meaningless 15v15)And sadly for /epog/, the worst is yet to come Ascension's conveniance shop
>>537134351Nostalrius really ruined the perception of population on pservers. 6-8k peaks with 2-4k lows are great for a private server of a 20 year old game. Ambershire is miserable when it goes above 7or 8k, that's too many people to comfortably quest, gather, use world chat, etc.
>>537134351I really hate that they got acquired by Ascension. With time, they might have been a good server.
>>537135267Totally, 10k is barely bearable when everybody is raidloggin, and yet trying to farm anything is miserable. 10k in a FRESH server is the shitties WoW experience you can have.
Good morning, anon. And how are your journeys among the lands of Azeroth so far? What are your plans?
>>537135267Look. I don't have any vested interest in epoch failing. I'm just pointing out to the thread schizo that his server is dying because it is deeply flawed, and that this is exacerbated by the fact that guys like him sold it as the ultimate savior server to vanilla+ and private servers in general.I feel bad for the devs who just wanted to create a server based on their vision. But everything else has conspired against them. It's a real monkey's paw result for them I think.
>>537135267Nostalrius was literally infested with farm bots and multiboxers which retards ignores it too.every shitty behavior came from there, even player poopsockingback in classic wrath, people were literally begging for ulduar 25man Gear score during naxx progress to do the damn raid in pugs.and all of those raid leaders were the most assinine faggots with fat tranny voice ever.>>537135518Ascension bought them to help them, it isnt helping that epoch team is full of retards and resources for bronzebeard were diverted to help there.Also it isnt helping either that the people playing on BBC+ right now isn't even giving bug reports, since the retards thinks the server is ready when it isn't.Most of the new gear didnt even got tmog tags and recently they fixed strat, since no one is doing the late game dungeons to inspect if everything is fine.Hell, i haven't seen even a single Sunken Temple group yet to check if everything is normal.>>537135524Early level zones once dutch began sending the invites became hell to level up on EK.and since dungeon XP was nerfed to bring more people to the open world since RDF is a mess isnt helping either.
You know, I never understood all these elaborate raid mechanics. It's the simplest thing to cause more pain than a tank can possibly endure. And of course, it's not only the immediate wipe, but the knowledge that if you do not clear soon enough, there will be little left to identify your guild as raiders. The only question remains: will you clear, in time?
Gonna do SM later, does the high elf area add a faster route to it for Alliance?
>>537136270>Ascension bought them to help themHow naive are you?
>>537136707I am not naive, at least Dutch is smart enough to salvage all the crap they made and give it to the sargeras embrace team.
I don’t buy "consumables". I don’t listen to the "raid leader". I don’t do "mechanics". I don’t show up "on time". And if that is not enough to finish the raid… Then. I don’t. Finish. THE RAID.
>>537137332Okay now Dutch is the savior of all private servers. Meanwhile, ascension is the absolute worst and most blatant cash shop private server in the world. You guys are so fucking insanely delusional.
>>537135659In no particular order:>continue farming SFK for this stupid hat>do some work stuff>exercise a little>goon to paizuri
>>537137930Best of luck in your endeavors, anon! Make sure to drink water.
WHAT'S TURTLE ISSUE WITH OIL RIGS??? WHY DO THEY ADD THEM EVERYWHERE??? AT FIRST IT WAS ONE AT DUROTAR "FOR THE HORDE", I CAN ACCEPT THAT! THEN ANOTHER ONE AT STONETALON??? AND NOW THEY ADDED ONE SOUTH OF TANARIS????????? WHAT IS THEIR END GOAL???????????????????????
>>537137824Nigga every fucking server has cash shop and money, even nost had.go be a commietard somewhere else or learn that this shit isnt sustained by muh dreams.
>>537138256It took them forever to get mobs on them to work properly but now that they do they're adding a bunch.
>>537138256Dude, I build like 5 of them in just 1 warcraft 2 mission
>>537136704You can swim but it takes as much time
so what's the deal with the female goblins? everytime I meet one they happen to be a sassy freak
>>537137824>ascension is the absolute worst and most blatant cash shop private server in the world.Retard
>>537138695>Nigga Spotted the smooth brain NPC zoomer >>537142728Found the other one
evil
>>537143181>ReeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEven turdle has a fucking cash shop, even fucking blizzard has one too
i mean blizzard did it so it's okay bros?
>ummm you have to pay hundreds to thousands of dollars every month on top of working on a game full time for free!!! OUR SERVER COMRADE!!!
>>537143329thank god this nigger is hardcore
>>537138695>>537142728Let's look at the Ascension Zen Shop· Currency: Zen (bought with real money) and Honor Points (earned in-game): · Race, faction, and name change services · Cosmetic items (transmogrification appearances, mounts, pets, wings, auras) · Quality-of-life services (dual talent specialization, extra bank/bag slots) · Character boosts (levels 30, 50) · Profession boosts (max a trade skill) · Reroll items for gear stats (Runes of Ascension) · Experience and reputation boost potionsYeah totally not pay to win at all. If random stats rerolls, leveling boosts, trade skill boosts and faction boosts aren't pay to win, then I don't know what is. This is literally the definition of pay to win. Only gacha addled tranime posting zoomers would imagine this as ever not being pay to win. Meanwhile this thread if consistently full of epoch zoomers screeching how a portable bank on Turtle is an aggregious pay to win cash grab.
>>537144054people thinks hosting a server and having the framework for it is easy.>>537144421and if wasnt for that, said server, warmane and even fucking official servers wouldn't deal with a ton of players logged in at the same time.Nost had top of the line servers that cost a ton of money to work on it.
>>537143691See: >>537144421>Muh retail tho! Yeah and retail is shit. No one here thinks it's any good. It's literally a static pop of skinnerbox addicted millennial boomers. I work with one of them, he's a fucking retard cuck. His wife runs him and he has no personality outside of his gear score. Retail wow is shit, people come here to avoid its worst feature. So that's no an argument. Meanwhile, turtle has a portable bank. Not outright leveling skips, trade skill skips, rerolls for rng, etc etc. There is no comparison here. You're a fucking retard if you think these are equivalent examples.
>>537144617>B-bit I can't afford to run servers without pay to win mechanics!!! >Y-youre a communist if you think a deeply exploitative cash shop that undermines a videogame is wrong Yawn. Zoomers are so fucking smooth brain. And you wonder why millennials are taking all your zoomer girls lol
>>537144807>reeeeeeeeeeee pserver store is le badenjoy 200 players and crashing at 500
>>537145136I never said a cash ship is bad. I said Ascension wow's cash shop is blatantly pay to win. And you've had a total meltdown over it. God you zoomers are so smooth brained it's shocking.
>>537144421No one here said ascension didn't have pay to win stuff in their cash shop
>>537145712>Ugh! No one said Ascension doesn't have a pay to win cash shop! Except people did: >>537138695>>537142728Maybe pay attention to the thread chain before commenting. Yet again another example of zoomer smooth brain gacha tranime addled retardation
I killed FMC.
>>537146089None of those posts you linked said ascensions cash shop wasn't pay to win
>>537146126I'm sure we could have done it if it didn't bug
>>537145350where is the pay to win in that?shitty xp pots that were nerfed to oblivion?aura that also was nerfed too because of slow level crybabies?You turtle trannies ALWAYS comes with the same retarded excuse when shenna is literally selling banned accounts with t3 on top of it til this day.Or the fact that she sells gold on discord with the help of akalix and the world boss mafia.or that the entire server is a circlejerk right now, and ambershit only exists to keep retards licked into their maze to delay the announcement that the UE5 shit was cancelled and they will obviously port everything to 3.3.5
>>537146236Okay so you're just full of shit. Thanks!
>>537146391>shenna is literally selling banned accounts with t3 on top of it til this day.Proof?
>guy sperging over the most inconsequential thing>is russianname a more iconic pairing
>>537147185I bought 6 accounts and had sex with shenna, trust me
Where is Dragonmaw Retreat located and how do I get there as Horde?
>>537147564Eastern wetlands
>>537146391Dude you seem extremely invested in the discord drama for a private server. And you seem to be defending and siding with a trash pay to win server like Ascension because of this e-drama you've involved yourself in. Let me say this tho: These people do not know who you are. Your seething won't fix anything Your trolling and shit posting here won't change any minds You staying in 4chan and discord won't change anything. This is a sub forum for an extremely niche community. No one cares about the drama you're posting about. >Look at this screenshot of a discord commentLike where is this normal behavior? Literally, seriously, genuinely: go touch grass dude.
>>537147564east wetlands, walk through arathi
how is this so difficult for so many people
>>537144421As someone who actually plays Ascension 90% of this post is made up, like wtf? I assume this poster asked an AI what parts of Ascension are pay to win
>>537146126Ambershire killed FMC.
>quest requires you to buy something off the AH
>>537148198It is a certain Turtle pisscord shill who comes here to shit other servers.And gets anal when someone mentions shenna selling stuff on top of the world boss mafia.
>>537148198It is a factual representation of the Ascension wow cash shop. >>537148872>It's an imaginary Boogeyman I've made up to explain my idiotic world view Not an argument.
Last thread someone mentioned how nice and chill the thread was compared to the epoch thread after all the tranime posters and discord addicts moved there from this one. Seems they're returning as their server continues to crash and burn
>>537115526Does he like dwarf women
>>537151717where are those dwarf women
Okay kittens, should I whisper Evil or Full Moon (or Branded) if I'm a gay furry casual that wants to chill and quest and maaaaaybe dungeon if a quest forces me to?
>>537152252join <evil> and whisper me
>>537152252Pupper Pals
>>537146391the UE5 is pretty insanely retarded, can't deny that lol
>>537148365>quest requires you to walk through the entirety of outlands to ask a npc for a singular item>"whoopsie i made a fuckie wuckie i forgot it next to the hyperspawn cave good luck retard"ENOUGH
>>537152740UE5 will be great
if you want furries then pupper pals, if you want anons then Evil
>>537152872no one is retarded enough to believe that
>>537153194there's only one furry race in this game though
>>537152098I'm standing outside of Stormwind getting rested exp :)
>>537153460Night elves druid transforming into little cats seems pretty furry to me
I'm level 37 but I only have 25 gold >_<
>>537153869give me all your gold
For furries: Pupper PalsFor Horde orgies: Zug zugFor anons: EvilFor faggy anons: BrandedFor RMT interactions: C N For LGBT furries: Lions' PrideFor comfy /pol/ gamers: Texas Knights
>>537146391>the UE5 shit was cancelled and they will obviously port everything to 3.3.5god i hope so
>>537153307I am
I was a little sad about missing cookie's wand but this more than makes up for it
I am not involved in the WoW pserver scene and only occassionally skim these threads out of morbid curiosity and a tiny bit of nostalgia. I didn't believe it possible to ever find specimen who are more hopeless, witless and disgusting than "people" paying for and playing WoW in [current year], but then I learned about people spending money on pserver cash shops.It's s true miracle that these "people" survived past the age of five.
>>537155315i was going to conscript you to heal for me but you're too low level </3
>>537155585ok poorshit lmao
>>537155727I'm catching up! Even if I'm too low level now though, feel free to say hi in game!
>>537155585>old man finds out about people paying for skins in video game
>>537155048>I hope they use a worse clientWhy?
the UE5 thing is a joke right?
>>537156459Know that if you're on Ambershire, the UE5 client will release before Naxxramas does
>>537155747Wastful spending is not an indicator of wealth, but of debt.>>537156235While all MTX may substitute clinical testing for mental retardation, throwing money at pservers which can (be) shutdown at a moment's notice attests a level of retardation that should make it impossible to live without professional supervision.
>>5371562383.3.5 is better than 1.12. It may seems worse on epoch but that because they are banning clients mods. Once modded like people do with 1.12, 3.3.5 is better.
>>537157107you know every online game can be shutdown at a moment's notice, right? And the purpose of donating is just because you like the server and have fun. Poorfag parasites don't understand the concept of supporting things you like.
It's rape time.
>>537157107yeah I also buy food sometimes, not everything in life is a long term investment, go bully ppl on the gacha games thread who spend their whole bankroll on pay2win (or even cosmetics) in single player games
>>537157863Need a warrior or druid tank with the woggie skin to heal
>>537157863Are you the worgen rogue one shotting me in BGs?
>>537157863Does he like gnome women
>>537148365>quest drop is a gray you can sell by accidentMostly a Westfall feature for some goddamn reason.
>>537153869I never had this much.
>>537158939I did that in Desolace but I found a cool fishing rod while gathering ten more shrimp which I sold for a cool 80s so it's all good
Why did no one tell me that the turtle database is back?
>>537160286Uh because none of us are cheaters?
>>537160286https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=58199Holy FUARK
>>537161335We have 2 spares in the Evil guild bank
>>537161489Evil doesn't know how bind on pickup works huh
The soul...
>>537162684wiznerd
Is Shaelnorissa a nice slut?Is Eliora a nice slut?
>>537130943>>537131296>>537131671>bad idiots who have never played warrior and paladin on turtleyap yap yap whine whine whineimp tclap > conc anydayl2p
>>537163573>imp tclap > conc anyday>l2p
@537163782 (you)consecration spends all ur manas. imp tclap doesn't spend anymany.if you need more explanation than that you are a retard
>>537163879TRVTHNUKE
Comfy 4 hour Dragonmaw Retreat run :)
>>537163573thunder clap only affects 4 targets. what happens if you pull 8 or 12? wouldnt conc be better in that scenario?
>>537164764Sounds kino. Get ready for a similarly long Stormwrought run if you try to do it all at once.
>>537164764it only took me 2 hours with kicking a warrior and finding a replacement at the dragon boss
Twow's new BGM is hit or miss (mostly miss) but it fits pretty well most of the time.The radio played Jaraxus remix last night though that was kino.>>537168897What'd the warrior do?
>>537163879Lil bro doesn't know about seal of wisdom
>>537169843literally went afk every 10 seconds for 15-20 seconds and was doing less overall damage than the healer they had several levels on without explanation.
>>537163879tplap sucks for threat, its only really good for the initial pull. If you're a warrior and you need aoe threat battle shout is the way to go but even that is not that good.I don't have a problem with druids and paladins being able to compete with warriors but then you'd at least expect them to be as complex gameplay-wise.As a warrior tank you need to use marks, you need to rely on your concussion blow and your shield slam to connect which are both single target. Only when the entire group/raid pays attention to the marks do you stand any chance of keep up decent threat.With paladin or druid its "hit one button for infinite threat please."No skill required, nothing to learn, just go in and spam that one button for infinite threat.When I raid seeing a warrior tank has become a very rare sight for me. Its always bears and druids. Its not wonder really, warriors know they will have to ask people to slow down and ask them to be patient. So there is no point in volunteering. Tanking as a warrior on turtle is more like a punishment of sorts lmao. No warrior wants to tank because its a absolute chore to tank.
I'm sitting under a tent. Give me a funny 15 minute Youtube video to watch
>>537171892I switched from Warrior to Druid and did Deadmines at level 20. The difference was huge. I went for Omen of Clarity and since there's no PPM on it anymore, I was near guaranteed to get a proc every time I swiped. I felt tankier and definitely did more damage than my warrior, and always had the choice to go out of form to rejuv + regrowth myself before every two or three pulls.
flag hit 60 warrior hardcore i repeat flag hit 60 warrior hardcore
Are we done being ironically anti-turtle or are we on another "X fotm server will save the scene" arc?
Duskhaven will save private servers
>>537173141https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5z_Y8sLhkw
>>537063910Survival Hunter is the only spec rework I consider a failure. They totally killed the stance dance playstyle of old school survival for a retail survival experience. Every other rework is a huge improvement though. Shaman tanking feels so good
>>537173704>the stance dance playstyle of old school survivalold school survival never had a playstyle because it fucking sucked in vanilla. your capstone talent was basically a 40 yard sap and everything else was only dipped into for pvp purposes outside of lightning reflexes for a chunk of raw statsit was only in tbc when the deadzone was removed that hunters could actually properly melee weave because you didnt need to run 10 yards into a boss for a limp dick raptor strikemelee survival is lame as shit and turtle needed to overcompensate with insane fucking AP scaling on immo trap but id call it more of a success than whatever the fuck the original developer idea was for it. personally i wish they had made it more like mop survival over modern
>>537173730A walking death Flag.
>level 40>get bored of playing the character/class
i beat turtle wow
>>537176642let your friends know you're quitting
>>537146126but we cleared all bosses minus the ones the server decided you can't do this week lole
>>537177117What class will I -enjoy- playing until 60?
>>537179712enh shaman
>>537179241And where is the guild now?
gotta say it's weird seeing Anduin as a literal toddler and not a young jrpg protagonist aged boy
>>537183031At least Vol'Jin's son seems cool (You can find him on Balor)
>>537166627If you pull 8 mobs in a low level dungeon you're probably screwed either way.That guy is still a retard because thunder clap generates less aggro than fucking battle shout.
>>537183031
>>537182612migrated to Evil and Branded
>get poisoned while doing the rogue quest>use first aid anti-venom to cure it>the next step of the quest just reapplies it anywayfine I'll play your game
>>537055330It's not roleplay, it's cybersex. You're not an "erotic roleplayer," you're cybering.
>>537183976what's the difference
>>537183976>lil nigga thinks erp is the same as the phonesex his das had in the 90sIt's okay.
>>537183831I asked some people on Discord who were in FMC about it, and they either told me they weren't playing anymore or that they were playing on Ambershire/Epoch but didn't join an anon guild.
>>537183976It’s called sexting.
>>537183338huh where is he?
>>537179712the game gets boring at about level 40
>>537183598God I foolishly had a little bit of hope seeing the bottom trailer. I was so stupid
>>537188373extremely lol, if you saw that lazy shit and thought anything but "man it's maintence mode time" you're retarded
running through ashenvale to stonetalon!
>>537189058It was a good cinematic though
>>537185026So you agree the guild died because people went to play on other servers or quit?
Solheim gaming got cucked by Blizzard! All his content is gone on turtle wow!
>>537190925The guild died because the raid leader and MT didn't feel like raiding anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2d1eOWwW2YThat's a really good video, I just wish they edited this guy's voice better so we didn't have to hear him smacking his lips every 5 seconds
Epoch or Turtle? Which is better?
>>537192939>>537193383>wod models
>>537193429I think turtle is better
>>537193523You know It's optional right? You can change it anytime
>>537192578>guy doing all the work quits>guild diesyeah that checks out
>>537138256IM BECOMING SCHIZO
>>537193429turtle currently, except if you think wow main game is the pvp battlegrounds, then epoch
tfw nobody in stonetalonthis alliance dwarf encampment is pretty cool, never thought there were be late teens/early 20s ally quests in ol' Stonetalon, much less this convenient albeit space-consuming and twisty-turny path up north near the Barrens entrance of STM to Windshear Crag
>>537135267Funny how so many people said Tel'Abim was dead with 2-3k players. Now Epoch's pop is falling off the tune is changing fast. I think Epoch is okay bugs aside but it still has a lot of problems. I have noticed there isn't much good gear to be found through questing (including custom quests) and the mobs are harder... which is fine if they were going for a Vanilla like experience of shit gear and harder mobs but the PVP gear is beyond fucking busted. If you skip PVP you might as well just spellcleave SM for 10-15 levels because they didn't add any new zones if you are sick of STV and the new quest rewards are just as shit as Vanilla as mentioned. It needed another year in the oven but i guess it's a WIP.
>vanilla quest>"Hail traveller. Please kill 5 rats for me!">classic+ quest>(The barmaid bounces boobily) "Hail traveller. Please kill 5 rats for me!"
>>537201495Sick, which quest?
>>537193383eh, protection was so fucking trash in wotlk, straight up garbage for anything but speed running dungeons and doing stupid damage while leveling. seeing wotlk talents again makes me not even want to touch this
>>537193429Turtle is garbage but epoch is much worse.Go look at epoch general; every post is about how something's broken or how the latest update to fix something broke another thing.
>>537191495Solheim is a grifter who posts the same video every week
>it's ya boy basedheim here back with another lisp filled waste of time video
>>537202698amazing how no early version of wow ever got prot warrior right. theres basically always some glaring issue with the spec for over a decade
>>537206212kek>>537205092>grifterlook I don't like the guy but quit it with the zoomer shit of calling everyone a grifter.
Here's the thing. I've had many pleasant encounters whilst levelling. Plenty of people I've done quests with, ran dungeons with along the way - even a 3-4 hour dragonmaw yesterday. But that's all they ever are, encounters. How does one get friends in this game? You might say 'add them' or something but, I mean, it's awkward... what am I supposed to say? Can someone help an autist like me understand? Or is it just not done, and you're supposed to find friends outside of the game itself to play it with? I'm so alone...
>>537207958if you feel like you connect or might want to group with someone in the future then holler at them or at the very least add them to friendsthen if theyre leveling like you, whisper them if theyre in a zone in/near you and you might need help with a questor if youre running a dungeon then tell them you need someone or want to run the duigeon and see if they want to joinquest mobs etcyou can just add people and not talk to them and keep an eye on their whereabouts to see if they are near you or leveling in the same zones
>>537207846Have you seen his videos? He steals content constantly.
High ElfMaleMageAmbershire<Evil>I'm coming
>bee mee>a resto shaman that wears strength gear and larps as an enh shaman while questing>takes a solid 10 seconds to kill an enemy while planting totems and spamming earthshock on cd while meleeing>paired up with another shaman that's only 2 levels higher>he flatout oneshots a mob in one melee hitZamn! Is the talent tree really that big a difference?
>res glitches and resurrects me where i died instead of the GYhell yeah my NIGGERS
>>537210147yes tranny
>>537210597I'm a boy
reminder improved thunderclap > anything a paladin can do
>>537207958you literally just add them and force them into it and no i'm not even kiddingyou have to just flat out whisper them and invite them to shit, 90% of the manchildren who play this terrible game are weird shy 30+ yo edgelord retards who desperately want friends.literally just start talking to them after doing stuff together and start inviting them to everything
@537211263except hold threat on more than 4 mobs at a time
>>537211794you won't even hold threat on those 4 mobs. Thunderclap does like 200 threat or so. Every player who does any aoe damage takes away your threat immediately. The debuff itself is very strong but the threat is only good for the initial attack together with battle shout. Then its just single target threat.
@537212151if the DPS is too stupid to AOE at the beginning of a pull and rip threat then i will intentionally let them die as a lesson. if they cannot follow basic mark instructions then it is they who misplayed, not the warrior.
>>537207958We could be friends but I'm still only lvl 20 so there's not much we can do together.
leave the chuds to me
>>537211263lmfaoturdle warrior is fucking garbage compared to paladin. prot outshines it like crazy and they compete on dpsyou play a warrior to debuff horde niggers with mortal strike and that's about it
these epochniggers are so mazedthis server is fucking bugged to hell
is the wpsg guild in sheilun called definitely not racists?
>tfw Blade Flurry+Ambush gives me a ready-made excuse to pickpocket 1-2 enemies before opening every pullI've yet to have anyone even bring it up anyway
>darkshore rain isn't loud enough>open rainymood>pure kino experience
>>537215135woyer isn't too bad its just that other classes like paladin got so much added to their kit there's no real reason to ever play warr again
>>537215532What is disappointing to me is Epoch had more of a focus on PVP but dear god PVP gear is broken as fuck on low levels. 29's with 3K HP running around. If you don't get PVP gear early on (and play Hunter) it's not fun.
does this seem about right for a hardcore tank build if i'm intending to sword/board my dungeons and leveling?will go into arms first for improved tclap, then do the prot tree and come back after for the rest in arms. or should i pick up imp tclap and parry asap?
>>537215135imagine a world where warrior actually gets the same treatment from the devs as paladin
>>537221775No thanks, we had that for 20 years of Vanilla.
>>537221817>warrior and paladin had the same treatment in vanillayou might want to read the post again
>>537221817>not all paladins are histrionic spasticsi need more convincing
>>537221054Not a fan of imp revenge? The stun can drastically increase your survivability.
>>537221974>imagine a world where warrior actually gets the same treatment from the devs as paladinesl please
>>537222653I'm balance druid and loving twow so far
>>537222791>im loving the server that sucks off hybridsyeah we know
>>537223114go back to world of warriors then.
>>537222689Not sure what id drop to grab it? What do you think?
>paladins are unplayable in vanilla>vanilla+ makes them playable >brownoids have a melty
>>537223160Make me nigger
>>537223414kek
>>537223276many such cases
>>537222712>the SAME treatmentironic of you to say
>>537223276>fagadins make the mistake of picking paladin instead of warrior which is what they really want to play>IIIEEEEEE THE CLASS IS LE BROKEN SAVE ME AGGRENDThe stupidity of the average troonadin is truly a sight to behold
>>537223653Why?
>>537210147just wanna point out that this was some astounding bait and only one person was dumb enough to replytry this out on a /v/ wow thread and watch the (You)s rake in
>>537080919>>537081441>>537081609>>537081825>>537082226>>537082380just wanna point out that this was some astounding bait and only one person was dumb enough to replytry this out on a /v/ wow thread and watch the (You)s rake in
>>537223276>my class sucked 20 years ago so now yours needs to suck until the end of timeand yet the pinkies still find things about their class to cry about lol
>>53722409820 years of shitty paladins. get rekt
>paladins are playable now? This invalidates MY class!You are brown.
>>537224793>playableThey outdamage every other class in dungeons effortlessly
>>537224849Brown.
>>537224849No they dont. Get good niggerman.
Uh, in still in the discord
>>537223276>pally can heal with plate in turtleno excuses to not heal motherfuckers
>just got Teebu's out of a fucking junkbox>got a Gut Ripper from one a while backGod damn, I love being a rogue.
what guild do i joinnnn
oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck
>>537224067Settle down summerchild
ETC on the radio 10-19 wsg with no twinks in the queueyep, it's gaming time
>>537190696if you think two guys standing in a grey desert talking to each other boads well for the effort/budget of the project when the precedent was everything pre DF you are silly
>>537173704Retail survival is fun. They made the right choice.
<3
>>537229352:)
>>537211794>he is so afraid of thunderclap warrior chads he doesn't dare directly reply to oneconcession accepted
>>537221775that didn't happen on retail until basically MoP second wind healing>had the same garbage tier defensives since vanilla for over a decade while every other class got some kind of new invul/insta heal by that pointwas pretty cool not gonna lie
>>537229592:3
>talk to a """"""""""""""""""""""""""""nearby""""""""""""""""""""""""" druid>the npc isn't a druid at allGood job, SHeena.
>>537230070>conc shot on 1>raptor on 9>auto on 3You scare me anon.
>the vast majority of Epoch's custom quests don't workVanilla quests not working is one thing, and would make sense. But when the quests you specifically added to the game don't work...
I'm off to play Sonic crossworlds beta.
>>537119484I still play on Nord but not in fmc.
sure paladins on turtle are busted and all but i just won't play one out of principle. too fucking many of them around and it's gonna be rough getting a raid spot. i also often go out of my way to group with them because they have a tendency to be really fucking stupid and cunty (as opposed to most hunters who are just really fucking stupid)
>>537232174*not group with them, i mean
>>537232174its funny how turtle has this role reversal where the usually popular classes (mage, rogue, woyer) are somewhat unpopular compared to the endless tide of fucking druids, shamans and paladinsmakes life a hell of a lot easier when people actually go out of their way to find hunters and mages to fill groups over 5 paladins competing over the same dps gear
>>537232174I just pick depending on what I wanna play. And it's almost always either rogue or warrior because I think casters are boring, pet classes are lame and also for girls, and pallies are unequivocally gay.
>>537232352>classic+ funserver which just feels like gm privileges were given to a hybrid main for them to go hog wildnothing funny about it. pretty obvious this would happen
I play a paladin on turtle, and every other server, because I like paladins. I want to be a paladin. Paladins are cool.
>>537232582homo
>>537232582>paladinI use my bubble as a condom in men's rectum too
>>537232582
>>537232582Don't let them get to you, King.
>lfm dps for my dungeon (i'm the tank)>"inv dps">shift click>paladin>"we're good on heals, thanks"
>>537233740>20 years later, anon learns pathing abuse
>Paladins, Druids and Shamans on the right>Every other class on the left.Some people are just born great. You just have to try harder, bro. Or better yet everyone just roll any of the three hybrid classes. Until Shenna deletes all the other classes.
>>537233869i mean yeah, you'd be pretty retarded to play anything other than paladin, druid or shaman on turtle
I have a high elf paladin, and I'm gonna do a high elf rogue next because the stealth crouch they do is super cute.
>>537233869Locks and mages are terminators in pvp
>>537234121Despite Garithos' best foot forward he was unable to terminate elven ability to erp everything in sight creating the pregnant men bill gates has spent a lifetime searching for.
>>537234121They wiggle their butt when they walk while in stealth, like they're excited with anticipation to stab or steal something.
I'm going to infiltrate <evil> to recruit bulls for <branded> and there is nothing you can do about it.
Who are the red flag candidates from full moon company i need to look out for in Ambie?
It's a beautiful morning in Windhorn Canyon...
>>537235824Which zone is that?
>>537236114some sneak peak of a new turtle zone
>true but in reverse on turtlepservers need to be gassed
I enjoy playing paladin on turtle and tanking dungeons :D
>>537230227elaynna alt type shit
I think pally T3.5 looks pretty fucking cool.
>>537237540Elaynna posted her keybinds a couple of days ago. Unlikely she would set up her skills like that.
>>537238275Is this a clicker or something
>>537238275>not rebinding everything on the main row after 5 (6 if your keyboard layout allows or you have really long fingers)SHIGGERY DIGGERYDOOI hope anon bound his fucking stances somewhere, but seeing stuff unbound after alt+f isn't encouraging.
>>537238275>shift F>shift Rsome big ass man hand keybinds
>>537239131I don't have to spread my fingers out at all to hit those, and my keyboard has decent spacing. Are you sure you don't just have gnome hands or some shit keyboard with wide-as-fuck spacing between keys?
"Poopsocking" in World of Warcraft (WoW) refers to the practice of neglecting basic hygiene and personal needs, including going to the toilet, to remain engrossed in the game for extended periods, often for significant in-game achievements like ranking up in PvP. The term became known after a WoW player nearly died due to complications from this practice. Blizzard has actively discouraged the unhealthy habit
man playing at 215ms feels like dogshit. changing stances takes a noticeable period of timedefinitely feel like i'm gonna get my HC character killed due to the latency
>>537239675you'll most likely die from a server crashits why I stopped playing mine by 30got too attached to the character and just logged out after a close call from a server crash
>>537239675>>537239730flag hit 60 on a warrior, what's your excuse?
>>537239730that too...>>537239798i'm gonna try it. warrior with that immortal title definitely feels more "earned" than any other class. huge props for sure. you know that warr is a fucking gamer
>>537239131Can you post your pussy please im horny tauren
>>537239798who the fuck is flag lmaoand nice job being a disingenuous faggot. theres absolutely nothing you can do to counter a server crash you will get fucked if it happens at a bad timebest you can hop for is not be a ghost when you log back in and then use a normal character to clear the area so you can safely get your HC character out of the area (elite areas, deep in a cave after clearing on top of a heavy pack while half hp etc)
i have my chain lightning bound on shift k
>>537240158holy chad
>>537240229i have massive hands and can reach ctrl backspace if i spread my fingers out
>>537240417>"i have massive hands and can reach ctrl backspace if i spread my fingers out"
>>537240417Impressive. Still sounds too impractical for actual use
>>537233869>queue pvp>its basically just druid shaman hunter priest on horde>paladin hunter druid priest on alliance>maybe 1-2 helpless warriors sprinkled in and on occasion you get a rogueso weird seeing this nonstop when on live it was primarily rogues and hunters everywhere back in the day
>>537240580shift k is the furthest keybind i use and it's just chain lightning as a pvp opener
>>537240634You can play Epoch if you wanna fight 10 hunters in WSG, true vanilla/tbc soul>>537235824Looks comfy, wonder what level it is.
would you?
>>537240634cant fucking stand the absolute state of twow pvpbest part is there are ZERO healers, at least on alliance because every fucking paladin wants to waddle after people only ever pressing cleanse and freedom on themselves. god help you if you aren't a class that can't clear roots (ie warrior)that one priest though on your team that does heal is the mvp and i protect them at all costs
>>537239131>not binding shift to a mouse button
>>537242430>see special needs pink bubble boy try to run up at me, a hunter>conc shot, immediate freedom>activate cheetah and run circles around him as my pet, the actual damage dealer, rips him apart>calls me a nigger and i report him to gmsim doing my part
>>537242796jaja paladin told me he reported me yesterday because he didn't know shamans can purge freedom
Just crafted black whelp tunic for myself and i look like a total badass right now.
>decide to try Turtle>launcher gives error on download, turns out you need to start in admin>no indication of this in the error or anywhere>ok>despite logging in to the launcher you have to login again in-game>mistype account name>Your connection is currently restricted. Too many unsuccessful authentication attempts>just 1(one) unsuccessful attemptok, going back to Epoch.
turtle isnt very good, and epoch is too far from vanilla
A pair of paladin bitches came for my dungeon group thinking that because one of them was 10+ levels higher than us, they'd curbstomp us. They neglected to consider that one of us was a rogue, and thankfully my shit actually landed.
>>537243070Shut up Elaynna
what are warriors even good at for tanking and pvp?
Turtle should implement proper controller support once it switches to UE5. Copy FFXIV's (non-default) crossbars and controller support which somehow made an MMORPG feel superior with a controller than KBM.
>>537243509Fuck off, mentally ill incel.
>>537243225Turtle's launcher sucks, fortunately it's optional to deal with.
>>537243685Go prot troll warrior and you now have a duty to waste as much of the allies team possible ganging up on you while your team zergs north bunker.
>>537243685in vanilla warriors were only ever "good" tanks by virtue of the other classes just being bad at it, with the exception of druid to a point. and even then warriors were tanking in some wonky fury build and hardly ever using a shield. this is exacerbated in tbc where warriors were left virtually untouched and the other classes and their tank specs buffed, and then wotlk was the nail in the coffin for warrior tankingturtle follows this same philosophy of "warrior broken in vanilla, leave it alone on our custom server and buff everything else". as a result warrior doesn't really have a place anymore since it's almost always better to use any other class, and the pain in the ass it is (comparatively) to level is no longer worth it when there's no reward at the end
>>537243225>>537243973It's also a bitch on Linux. Only works with vanilla Wine and you can only run it once since it crashes on subsequent runs. I don't know how they made something worse than all those Electron apps but they did.I only used it to generate an initial 'fancy' config and it did actually find a few patch files that needed to be updated for some reason.
>>537243225Bro we crashed 5 times in the last 30 minutes.
>>537244130I agreeIf Warriors had the utility and quality of life shit that other classes have, I'd say things would be fairly balanced. Even just adding in whichever version of Victory Rush that healed you when you got it at like level 10 would be enough but as it stands I can't see why anyone would even bother with Warrior, unless you really really like pressing Charge or something
>>537243967>elaynna calling anyone else a mentally ill incellmao
>>537243685Tanking they arent really better than the other classes but in pvp they got MS and hamstring and they will never go oom, unlike everyone else.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Shamans being better tanks than warriors. I watched paladins outshine warrior tanks on turtle. All furyprot builds will be lost to balance changes, like tears in rain. Time to reroll.
Can you make a horde character if you already have one on alliance? Can you send mail to them if yes?
>>537245417Yes and yes
>>537242502I bind my two mouse buttons to page up and page down for scrolling webpages, then I use page up for seals and page down for judgement. Then I can use shift+page up/down for other spells.
Yup, it's mmo socializing time!
>>537247683i'd hire you as an escort if you know what i mean
>>537247865>implying you can't fuck elaynna for free like every other anon has
>>537247925this really elaynna? you'd expect him to move on after +6 months
>>537247865Huh?I don't really need gold but a frog pet would be nice.
>>537207958Making a friend, someone who really aligns with you, isn’t easy. It’s pretty much a miracle. Sure, I’d do dungeons with guildmates and that’s a thousand times better than with randoms, but most of the time I prefer doing solo content alone.I also have many friends outside the game, but they’re not NEETs like me and just can’t keep up with the pace of the game.I’d say my best WoW friend was a goblin I met at the Shimmering Flats while playing hardcore on Nord. We made each other laugh while questing, and that was it. Then we spent the whole weekend playing together just because it was such a pleasant experience for both of us. I died shortly after, but I’m sure we could have added each other on Discord and played other games. I didn’t want that though, since at the time I only wanted to keep playing more hardcore.Godspeed Scrunkle, you were a great Goblin.
>>537248012Yes, that's really him.No, he hasn't moved on.Not that anon.
Meanwhile on /epog/ >>537230284
>>537248571It should have been obvious to anyone that Epoch was going to be a buggy mess. You can't make that many changes to the game and expect it to just work right off the bat.Turtle Wow did the right thing. They started with stock vanilla and slowly made altercations over years. And yes this meant introducing bugs to the game, and there still are bugs, but it also meant the vast majority of the game worked. You could still enjoy 90% of the game and kind of shrug off the 10% of the bugged stuff. And then they'd fix the bugged stuff and you could enjoy it (and then they introduce new stuff and it's bugged and then they later fix that, the cycle continues).Epoch could have easily released years ago and slowly added new stuff to their game. Slowly build up their server and their population. Then they wouldn't be in this mess where years of work are going to waste as players reject their buggy ass server.Once again, slow and steady wins the race.
>>537248995insider scoop is that the first 2 years of devtime were just ideaguying
>>537244178>>537243973It is built on microsoft edge webview. It's a shitshow
Turtle is good because it has this 2006 magic, like this quest at Darkshore that brings you at a random iceberg in the middle of nowhere on a boat. There's nothing on the iceberg, it's fully useless, but damn it's so fun exploring shit like that
>>537249654why censor out your name then leave the dps charts
>>537249654the iceberg actually does have a purpose with fishing. you can get an item there that summons the big fucking lobster world boss when combined with 2 other obscure itemstheres also some lore about a gnome pilot that got stranded there and died during the fallout of gnomer
>>5372499122006 magic, you had to be there
>>537249912it was an ARG and you solved it, gratz
>>537249997why did you respec from human male paladin to tauren oomkin
>paladins are by far the most played class on amber by quite a big margin>thinking they will all get raid spotswatch the fagadin pop plummet in a month or so with half the remainder being told to don the dress or fuck off
>>537244178Have you gotten superwow to work via proton? proton ge latest works for me fine with the launcher and with the client but if i enable superwow the client instantly crashes.
>>537250086Playing at melee range feels too honest, I want a dishonest and unfair gameplay
>>537249994Evil will kill the lobster
>>537250167You will don the dressYou will say yes to all gnome and goblin ero requestsYou will be <Branded>Your 2 handers will be sent to the carnival where they belong
>>537249654
>>537249654>There's nothing on the icebergThe iceberg has quests and NPCs to kill for those quests.
>>537237540>>537247865>>537247925>>537248012>>537248526Chuu~ <3
>>537250774Aecheur is a schizo. He's currently trying to wage a war with <Branded> and /heals/ because they won't join <Evil>.
>>537250860Now turn the camera around and show her butt.
>>537250927screenshots?
I wish one of the servers had an option for huntards to use thrown weapon skins/animations for their ranged weapons. I want play a troll axe thrower.Also I read about a potential custom class for Turtle, one of them being runemaster. Is that true? I imagine even if yes, it would come years later.
>>537248995>get to STV>people talking about GMM like it's some epic dungeon>go do it>it's just a handful of generic caves used all over the game that they've awkwardly stitched together and sprinkled mobs intoThis shit is free and I still feel like I got scammed.
>>537249654>There's nothing on the icebergGo back and explore it fully, you will find some signs of life, a journal of the one who used to live here and ultimately, his body.
>>537250927New 4chan guild drama already starting?
>>537251085The funniest part in all that is how they were making fun of Turtle's custom content. "Oh, they're just recycling old unused stuff and adding stuff to the corner of the maps instead of creating something new." Then you look at their custom dungeon and it's like you said, just some of the cave maps stitched together. Nothing special. Then you look at the new stuff Turtle has added like Stormwrought Ruins and Dragonmaw Retreat, and it just destroys Epoch.Epoch essentially did everything they accused Turtle of doing with their lazy custom content, and Turtle did everything Epoch said they'd do by creating actual new vanilla+ content that feels like a natural extension of the original game while adding something new and different.
>>537250167what class will get raid spots?
>>537250927>>537251203>>537251049Elaynna was probably the mastermind of it all you see... she doesn't want to participate in either guilds because she knows it will destabilize both guilds. You see! SEE!
>>537251203Apparently so because Aecheur can't just let some ERPers jerk off in their corner. I don't know why we need to create new drama when it's clear he can't handle it but the guy seems to be a massive retard so that would explain it.
>>537251506Elaynna is a retard and a man so no.
>>537251351>be me in the year 2034>epoch finally releases their first new custom raid, Uldum>everybody is super hyped, all 10 of us are pogging out in world chat>walk into the instance>loading screen>it's just Uldaman with 2x world scale applied to itKino.....
>>537250927kek
>>537251430Hard to tell by judging early player base but based on Nord, ranged dps. Shamans, locks, mages, priests. Can't ever have enough warriors since turtle wow hates warriors/rogues in pvp. Tanks always needed for dungeons too.To be fair though theres far less optimal fags in turtle then you'd see elsewhere. You can get in raids with any class. Even like above person mentioned 90% of paladins are ret warriors so you can stand out as a healadin pretty easy. Earlier this year there was a healadin belerian player that must have increased ally chances of winning bgs by 25%
>>537250175I have SuperWoW and SuperAPI installed but don't currently have any other addons that use them and it works with Proton GE. I did experience a consistent crash shortly after logging into any character if I enabled gamescope though. I didn't test it with addons/mods disabled.
>>537251516Its something that will need to be discussed because it was a day 1 issue with FMC. Probably for the best that theres 2 guilds, but are you both planning to raid together?
>>537251615Why are you still so angry with me? I sometimes come here and just post about the game. You approach random players to tell them about "le evil" Elaynna. Then they usually whisper and ask me why I'm so evil. All I can do is tell them my side of the story and like always, I like fmc and most of the Anons in fmc. So I try to give a unbiased view on what happened. But you brought these people I've never met to me. Some of them even actively tried raiding with me and asked me for pugs that we can join together. I think they even skipped fmc raids just to hang out with me.Then they leave the guild... hm... me and Cukoo have enough of this foolishness. We won't be joining <evil> at all and just explore Azeroth making friends on the way. We made many friends already in fact.
>>537250175Post your crash log.
>>537250927>guild is like a week or two old>already causing dramaThis shit is why I won’t join.
>>537252453Thanks for turning around and showing your butt like I told you to, slut.
>>537252453No more brother war!
are the new zones faction specific or can I quest in them as horde or alliance?
>>537252661Trying to reenact the dwarf scene from the vanilla trailer. Just with a bow and bird. Instead of a gun and a bear.
>>537252997Northwind is alliance only, the rest is crossfaction, Horde can access Balor through the orc camp over at Stranglethorn
>>537253016And instead of a dwarf you’re a whore.
>>537252997Northwind is faction specific. But the rest are open to all factions.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71235075/blizzard-entertainment-inc-v-turtle-wow/
>>537252453Why are you making the same mistakes? Why are you posting your character on 4chan again?
>in dungeon group with 2 warlocks>runs almost over and neither used a single soulstone
what classs should i roll?
>>537253197Oh no no no
>>537253432>Please soulstone me, Warlock1.There, that was easy.
>>537253197RIP
>>537253197IT'S OVER, EPOCH WON
>>537253529i mentioned the lack of soulstones twice lol
>>537253197uh oh
>>537253593>implying any private server will keep operating after this
>>537253671Right... Just like when Nostalrius went downRetard
>>537253621>mentionedPassive aggressive. I would personally ignore you knowing it would make you seethe.Just say what you want in a polite but direct way like a man.
>>537253593if they can get turtle they can get ascension this is terrible news.
>>537253197>In so doing, Defendants’ aim is to divert users from Blizzard’s official WoW server to their own unlawful Turtle WoW Servers, where they receive payments from these users in the form of “donations.”>Blizzard is informed and believes, and on that basis alleges, that Defendant Yulia Savko, a/k/a Julia Sauko, a/k/a Torta, is an individual residing in Moscow, Russia. >Blizzard is informed and believes, and on that basis alleges, that Defendant Eric Mauser a/k/a Shagu is an individual who resides in Stuttgart, Germany. Mauser is among the developers and administrators of Turtle WoWShagu is a dev for turtle wow???
>>537253731Nostralius never went beyond a C&D. This is way different and much more serious. If Blizzard is willing to skip the C&D and just take private servers to court you are much more fucked running a private server.
>>537253731Nostalrius never faced legal action, the owners took it down and gave their code to blizzard hoping they'd get jobs. they had a meeting but as far as i know it didn't result in employment.
>Breaths in the cold, refreshing air of the mountains in Dun Morogh>>537253085Why so hostile?>>537253410I didn't. I did stop. But seeing Anons bothering random players like that. Its just distasteful honestly. Now they know what my character looks like at least. So they can't just go after any female high elf hunter.
>>537253197Erm...
>>537252553Either 5 revenge artists planting ieds over their plap pal betrayals or 5 low social functioning /pol/ users Pick your poison.
>>537253867He built a lot of addons that were turtle wow specific but i don't know if they pay him. I guess they may.
>>537253775i said "soulstone the healer you purple bums"
>>537253197>>537253593Huh. I thought TWoW was based in Russia for some reason.I was already annoyed with playing solo mage on Ambie and I have no sympathy for TWoW due to the P2W cash shop and everything being per-character, so I don't care. Would just send me to try out Bronzebeard.
>>537254039who is in what?
>>537253197>trying to sue a server and close it down when its hosted in fucking france>straight up doxing shagu, and shenna>literally saying they feel threatened by the unreal 5 engine and all the QoL and upgrades made to the engine>and also claiming that turtle is somehow operating out of the statesif turtle is hosted in france and/or russia, and these people are simply regular citizens of their home countries making mods for a game, what jurisdiction does blizzard have?
>>537253197shennasissies... our response...?
>>537250167But paladin is perfectly fine on any roll and guilds don't mind having them
>>537253452bump.
>>537253452>>537254237maybe elaborate on your personnality, what you're looking for in a game, anything
>>537253197I knew unreal 5 was a step too far. they could actually kill retail if they aren't stopped.
>>537228367It was obviously a high budget cinematic though
>>537254109>changing the stories three times nowThank you for passively admitting you were wrong. By lying and claiming you did what I said you should do you are agreeing that I am right. Remember this for next time. Don’t be a coward. Speak up. Don’t run to a thread to talk shit anonymously.
>>537254284Misanthropic, I want to experience all the content.
>>537253867It's just an allegation, but he might actually be getting paid for his work.
>>537254416Hunter with the slow & steady challenge then, so that you don't have to interact with any human being during your adventure, you can also play melee hunter on turtle
>>537254159France will enforce the decision. In fact the US had enforced French decisions when it comes to copyright. Many countries cooperate on copyright law even when they may have different laws.
>>537254143Aecheur filthydrunk low functioningFrom fmc stabdotexe and gutu ied planting plap pals
>>537254159>doxing shaguHis name is literally all over his Github and websit, that's not what doxxing is.
>>537253197Imagine if all that money went into paying GM to stop bots and RMT... imagine...
>>537253197They doxxed so many people.
>>537253197>blizzard makes a segment saying turtle wow copied wow assets>links a fucking screenshot of entirely original art and assetsnice
>>537253867>>537253197is this an actual legal document?
>>537253593Could have easily been avoided if they just used 3.3.5 instead of trying to make their own shitty ue5 client.
Protip: Go make git mirrors and/or bundles of every git repository by those mentioned in the documents, and then go do the same for any mods you personally care about. I've seen this happen time and time again in /emugen/ and such, and these repos always disappear within 72 hours.btw I'm not doing it because idgaf
>>537253197Wait so SHeena wasn't torta?
>>537253197< C N > won...
>>537254725Yes. You can grab the main document here:https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127.1.0.pdfOr click the pdf button on the site, rest of the documents need to be paid through PACER. tl;dr - It's legit.
>>537253197I haven't seen anyone else talk about this
>>537254743anon the ue5 client is one of the most legal things since it's being written by themselves, the issue is the assets which you can simply tell users to get themselves from a regular download
>>537253197>Turtle WoW also has caused significant and irreparable harm to Blizzard.IMAGINE FUCKING ADMITTING THIS IN A PUBLIC COURT DOCUMENTIMAGINE BEING AN ALLEGEDLY AAA DEVELOPER AND ADMITTING THAT SOME FUCKING RANDOM PRIVATE SERVER HAS CAUSED "SIGNIFICANT AND IRREPARABLE HARM" TO YOUR COMPANY
>>537253197>Turtle WoW is among the largest and most sophisticated private WoW servers available today.
>>537253197how long do i have to enjoy turtle wow before it's over.
>>537254836>TURTLE WOW, an entity of unknownform; AFKCRAFT LIMITED, a HongKong Company; [REDACTED] a/k/a[REDACTED] a/k/a Torta andShenna
>>537253867>Defendant Yulia Savko, a/k/a Julia Sauko, a/k/a TortaSo the pastebin was right?
>>537254970It doesn’t admit that.If some dude sells pirated bootlegs of your movie on the street you say they caused significant harm to your profits because then you can sue the shit out of them.
>>537254985If lucky this could just be a temporary road bump for TWoW, but the addon developers are cooked
>>537255113How so? What laws did they break?
WHO ARE THE DOE DEFENDANTS?HOW DO YOU RUN A PRIVATE SERVER BUT ONLY 10 PEOPLE CAN MAINTAIN THEIR PRIVACY?
>>537255372Primarily the laws of being poor and facing harassment from a large corp like Activision. Actual laws don't tend to matter much for such people.
>>537255438Devs working for Shenna.“Doe defendant” is what you call people in a lawsuit when their real identity is unknown.Their identities will be revealed in discovery when Blizzard gets all the discord dms.
>>537255372hurting blizzards bottom line because retoilet and their shit classic servers and ~remix~ are so garbage everyone would rather hang out on a server made by a russian pump and dump gold scammer
>Torta and Shenna, an individual;>Shagu and Meph1s, an individual;>Akalix, an individual;>brotalnia, an individual>Niralthas, an individual,>xerron, an individual,>Jamma an individual,>Haaxor, an individual,>Kruxis, an individual;>PepeSmite, an individual;I only know the first two. Does anyone recognize the others?
>>537255372Mop is dying, people didn't like SoD, no one gives a shit about retail.these servers that do a better job make them look bad and instead of improving blizzard will sue you to death.it does beg the question why didn't they do this before if it were possible. also it seems like people owe gummy and apology.
>>537251430everything except paladins, rogues and hunterspaladins still only need enough for buffs, their dps is good but you gain nothing from stacking them like warriors since their dps is actually good. one spot will be pally tank/off tank, 1-2 heals and 1 dps, maybe 2.rogues because lolhunters are better than they were in nilla but still not really needed compared to casters
>>537254972>"I'm blind, asshole."Realistically how could Spiderman respond?
>YULIA SAVKO a/k/a JULIA SAVKO a/k/a Torta and Shenna4chan was right
is it too late to roll on turtle wow then?
Oh nonono shill bros it's now legally confirmed what do we do???
>>537255818say he had the black suit on and wasn't himself and daredevil will never know
>>537255372Lawsuits are not won by those in the legal right, but those who have more money than their opponent.
>>537255871Yes, the server is over.
>shagu>103 repositoriesnope. not archiving any of that without scripting it and I can't be arsed. bye, shagu
damn i was having fun :(
>>537253197>Requiring Defendants to deliver to Blizzard all copies of materials that infringe or violate any of Blizzard’s rights described herein, including all versions of the Turtle WoW Client and any Turtle WoW servers.They are going to steal Turtle WoW and call it Classic+
>>537255748i still doubt gummy was actually threatened at all unless he stupidly hosted his server in the states. twow is hosted somewhere in europe and that was usually seen as a silver bullet to avoid getting the blizzard hammerif these documents are real, which they appear to be unless this is an extremely elaborate gayop that picked some random IP lawyers to LARP as, it means that blizzard has ALWAYS had the potential to bring actual charges against private server ownersthis actually has some really fucking amusing implications actually>no private server, not even ascension blatantly doing p2w shit and selling stuff without the "donations" loophole has ever threatened blizzard as much as turtle has>in fact its so damaging to blizzard that they felt the need to try and bring charges against every single fucking turtle dev, even people only tangentally related>they want not just damages paid out to blizzard but also to be given all the assets, branding and rights to the fucking name Turtle Wowtheyre scared, terrified even. and i wouldnt even put it past blizzard to take all the assets and ideas and half-ass them for their own shitty classic+ server
>>537255956Yes, but how are fucking addon developers the ones who supposedly are COOKED? If anything, they'll be the least impacted people in the lawsuit.
>>537255942We have bigger problems than that bwo
>Epoch killed TurtleIt's over...How is Bronzebeard?
>>537255853>>537255091Shenna/Torta is pretty cute, i will now play on her server.
I've always been wondering why don't private server owners just move servers to Nepal or something. Pay some local codemonkey a living wage with all the donations and they're 100% safe from Blizzard?
>>537256245Those are bog-standard demands in cases of blatent infringement.
>>537256180Based if true.
>>537255871I spoke to devs when the server was a lot smaller. They seemed confident and said if they try to take it down they will just move the server to Russia which has no care in the world for US legal matters.I think they have a decent chance of being fine just perhaps downtime to move the servers albeit at this point its probably been anticipated for a while also.Im surprised they didnt just try to buy them out for a few million since it would have been pennies for Microsoft and this method will probably generate even more negativity toward blizzard then its worth since they can't make a half decent vanilla + experience anyways. I doubt most the player base will go back to Blizzard in any way.
Turtle Wow should have seen this coming when their Youtube channel got DMCA’d but especially when news sources started reporting on their Unreal Engine project.They’ve been in Blizzard’s crosshairs for a long time. Blizzard just pulled the trigger. Ascension and Epoch are next.
>>537256513>I doubt the players would go back to Blizzardnta but I also suspect that Blizz themselves know that's the case. The majority will simply quit and that in and of itself is a victory for ActiBlizz because they can afford to win these zero-sum games as long as retoilet paypigs buy the new $90 mount. Buying out the TWoW devs would be an admission that they can create better things than the actual Blizzard employees and handle things better than the last 2 or 3 GMs working the classic servers
>>537256513Blizzard is going after their dev team. They’ll use discovery to reveal their identities by subpoenaing discord and payment processors, which they will comply with, and follow the trail to their dox.Torta might be fine as a Russian citizen but not everyone who ever received a paycheck from Turtle Wow lives in Russia. I would wager most their staff are US citizens. All of them can be held liable in the court.Shit is about to get fucked, and fucked hard.
>>5372566702 years ago Turtle told people not to stream their product. Was pretty based ngl. They flipped pretty hard on the issue and I see ecelebs broadcasting now all the time.>>537256698This is hilarious to read but I guess truth is stranger...
Discord mods are on alert and the shills are in denial.
>>537256670It was epoch youtube channel that got DMCA not turtle.
>>537255774ninny rogues and hunters got omegabuffed last patch and more sunderer past 5 isn't needed
>>537257021both of them got DMCAd, turtle happened a while back before epoch's did
>>537257021Turtle got nuked when they started posting their UE5 trailers, newfag
>>537256980Turtle Wow began paying people (in Turtle coins) to make videos on Turtle Wow.
>>537257082I guess they didn't bother with ascension yet since they were mostly a funserver? Seems like it's about to change with bronzebeard
Death to IP lawsDeath to copyrightDeath to the idea that corporations are people
me playing in turtle wow doesn't damage blizzard because why would I play real vanilla that's just ass
>>537256334LMAO. In a perfect world, sure. It never works out that way. And that's assuming they didn't actually break any laws.Look at the PC mod scene, look at what happened to the (legal) Switch emulator Ryujinx (not Yuzu).
is it too late to play on turtle wow?
>>537257327Yes comrade, OUR property!
mage or hunter if I want a raidspot?
Another private server getting killed... So sad...
>>537255724Akalix is their main community guy and haaxor has made some addons he also made an updated talent calculator for 1.18 before the official one was updated
Did the Plainswalking quest without cheating, and it just gives you enough time to reach the NPC in TB from camp, second to second.
People are getting messages deleted when talking about the lawsuit on turtle discord.
>>537257548Server aint making it to raid release buddy
>>537257701probably dont want people panicking before an official statement from the devs is my guess
>>537253197Torta's best defense right now is to claim improper venue. As a Russian citizen they aren't subject to US copyright law. This could lead to the case being dismissed.The issue is they aren't the only defendant named in this lawsuit, and there's a lot of doe defendants under internet usernames. I would guarantee not all those named are Russian, and since they're unknown entities, the case could be pushed in order to reveal who they are so the judge can assess the venue. If enough of them are US citizens or in a country where US copyright case decisions are enforced (this is a lot of places on the planet), then the judge may decide to proceed into discovery and further if the judge says enough of the Turtle Team is subject to US law.I can foresee Shenna just ignoring the lawsuit as a Russian citizen. She might move the servers to Russia or some shit. But other people are going to get boned by this.
>>537256334Lawsuits operate on guilty until proven innocent, you either do nothing and lose, bankrupting yourself with fines or settlement fees to whoever accused you, or you bankrupt yourself on legal fees trying to prove you didn't do anything wrong. You can be a perfect law-abiding citizen that hasn't broken a single law in your entire life and a company still has the power to completely screw you over out of the blue for no reason other than they think you're a threat to their bottom line for some reason. The law is a joke. Money is what decides who is in the right or wrong.
>>537257651I thought haaxor was also doing client development, where's Bowser though?
Evil is hosting free Chinese lessons tonight to prepare for the server switch!
>>537257327Death to broad stroke bullshit like this and what they're doing.What we need is legal systems that make senseBlizzard clearly can't provide any of this shit yet they take it all down all the same because the theseus' ship of a company tha they are made it 20 years agoThe team at nu-blizzard can't even fathom most of the design decisions that the old team made and private servers followedThey shouldn't have the right to say shit about anything before legion
>>537257623This is different then Nost though. If this gets taken down then the rest are gonna get iced.>>537257548Either is fine but mage pref
So is this just the end of private servers?https://youtu.be/3QR2m03V76I?si=MNn-VVVp4CJnllWF
turtle...lost.....
>>537257878<Branded> offering race changes to high elf to fit in with the Ching Chong populace. This will be our first guild cooperative.
>>537257820That's definitely it, they also took down the donation link.
is it too late to start playing on turtle?
>>537258094Yes, we need a last DPS for the Sex Change Temple
newbie holy priestess looking for husbando on turtleno gnome / dwarf / gobelin pls and preferably no cloth classes (◠‿◠) I have discord bt not a good mic
>>537258284>gobelingive my shoes and hat back frogs
So which Private Server features a fresh Vanilla Experience?
>>537258231The server will live on for a while, but the discord, twitter and everything else related to marketing is most probably getting shut down soon, don't miss out on peak till' its too late
>>537257836Willing to bet the judge who hears this will be a liberal who is pro-Ukraine so no way they dismiss.
>>537258284doesnt it feel a bit gay to type this
>>537258284Ok asalys
>>537257929>the rest are gonna get iced.it certainly sets a dangerous precedent if this lawsuit goes through that merely hosting a server somewhere isnt enough. youd need the majority of your dev team to be in places not subject to US copyright law. youd need to ensure that paying devs from donations isnt done through payment processors that are under US jurisdiction. youd need to keep your entire fucking operation in some dystopian 3rd world shitholes that dont even have courts, much less acknowledge US laws.however i think blizzard doesnt really give a shit about ascension/epoch/warmane/etc. because they arent as large a threat to the brand as turtle is. this isnt a takedown because blizzard is protecting their copyright. this is because they see turtle wow as a massive, existential threat to the entire warcraft brand. there are probably more people on turtle's servers than there are playing mop classic right now and that is absolutely making the top brass seethe out of their fucking mind
SERVER DOWN
>>537258660S-Sorry...
Tel'Abim is still online.
lol someone in trade just said to check the discord because of blizzard and got called a troll, then server went down 5 seconds later
>>537257861The judge can evaluate a lawsuit and dismiss it because it lacks merit before you ever have to do anything. Not saying that will happen in this case (highly unlikely, Blizzard hires lawyers who know their shit and wouldn't file a frivolous lawsuit) but the idea that if you do nothing you're fucked isn't true.If it actually goes to court you're at the point where they judge believes the lawsuit is meritorious and thus you need to make a case to defend yourself.Essentially I sue you, if the judge says "this anon has a point, let's go to court and hear both sides" then you have to give your side or all he'll hear from is me and probably side with me for the most part (may find mitigating factors and not give me 100% what I want but would award me a judgement in my favor).But if I just sue you for no good reason the judge will shit down my throat and you'll never see a courtroom.
>>537258690Go ShennaTuenneled Eflop, Paymane, Asscension, and retail even with a lukewarm start, dmcas and hackermans
>>537257836Shenna isn't the only defendant listed in this case. They are going after EVERYBODY involved with turtle, many of whom are in countries that absolutely will respect their copyright treaties with the US.
>>537254159>doxxing shennauhh good? who cares about that goblin
Hi, Yulia Savko here! Sorry for the restart, we just migrated everything to our Azerbaijan back up!
>>537258783Asalys is that you?
I need a big strong Grimtotem bull to breed my submissive tauren bullAlso should I be concerned about Turtle? I'm really enjoying it and I don't want it to be shut down.
>>537259074I will not respond to prosecuting questions
>>537193383Yeah those videos are greatly made.
>>537258690>ascension/epoch/warmane/etc. because they arent as large a threat to the brand as turtle isTurtle has been belligerent with their advertising, they literally blew up on youtube with all creators talking about them. They had to do something to defend their trademark.
>>537258960Exactly, which is why I'd say "improper venue" won't work. I mean fuck if it really stood a high chance I doubt Blizzard's lawyers would go ahead with this.Really there's just not much to do other than try to settle. So many defendants does complicate a case like this. Even big companies don't like being in courts forever. Likely they filed this hoping to push a settlement. And from the filing what they want is Turtle Wow, which Shenna could give them.But really Shenna's only reason to hand it over is to protect other people. Shenna is Russian. The US could say she owes Blizzard a trillionty dollarie-doos, but she'd never pay a cent because fat chance enforcing that shit in Russia.So basically we'll see if Shenna throws them under the bus to continue making cash, and if any of them can throw Shenna under the bus to spare their asses. Maybe Akalix has access to everything and can cut a deal.
Any good server going on atm?Bored of playing dota 2 with the ruskies.
>>537258660no idea who that is >>537258547ok ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>537259335Play Turtle until it's too late
> got tired of World of Marvelcraft, i.e. retail> maybe there's a HD asset based pserver> find out about Turtle, Epoch & Warcraft Reborn thanks to this general> mfw Turtle lawsuitWhile I know all of these are one way or another p2w servers, to what extent are they p2w?Which servers have HD assets and/or HD spell effects?How does tmog function in each of these servers? Does one have to pay for it with real cash?Any idea about Tutle 2 & Warcraft Reborn's releases?
I'm back inI pray to jesus this shit doesn't go down because of blizzkikes, this is the first time I have played wow or private servers in years and it's great. this northwind is unironically my favorite zone I have ever experienced in wow. I'm even reading the npc dialogue and shit, I haven't done that since og vanilla when I was a kid.why can't some deranged troon go after the blood sucking kikes running companies like blizzard if they hate religious people so badly.
>It's a beautiful morning in Windhorn Canyon...
>>537258284Asa...You already have Elicia...
>>537259676Because the deranged troons are the ones that get cosy desk jobs at Blizzard and other companies
>>537259064At least theres some laughs out of this. If the ship sinks i guess blizzard is saving us a lot of time.Is there any other social games to play since its not Blizzards WoW? I guess back to Gary's Mod.
>>537259772so fucking true and so fucking sad
>>537259712And the best part is, you can't play it!
>>537258284Im not getting on voice with a grown man whos gonna pretend to be my wife bro
>>537258284How do I find you?
>>537258240please tell me there's a sex scene of femrance
>>537259761would love to know the story behind that asa>>537259865(-‿-)>>537259970I think the servers are down (﹏)
>>537259658>what extent are they p2wthe closest you get to p2w on turtle are buying (overpriced) 36 slot bags and repair botsepoch doesnt have a donation shop -yet- but will likely look a lot like turtles with tons of cosmetics and probably bagsreborn i dont know about but its ascensionslop so expect some really egregious shit like portable class trainers as well as the above cosmetics, bags and repair bots>which servers have HD assetsany of them with patches but they all look like shit because modern wow looks like shit>how does tmog functionin turtle you get fashion coins from dungeon bosses and every 10 levels on the slow and steady leveling challenge. 1 coin = 1 transmog but it lets you transmog to any armor you equipped before so it doesnt adhere to armor types>does one have to pay for it with real cashnope>any idea about turtle 2 and rebornUE5 client is up in the air with this brand new lawsuit, reborn is in a perpetual alpha like CoA which is also ascensionslop
>>537260172No they're up again.
>>537259970Download turtle rp, dance nekkido under the awning of stormwindo squareSee you soon desu
Guess its back to poe2 then
I'm watching Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade right now. Turtle had better be up and ready for me when I finish in 50 minutes.
>>537258284My orc warrior is going to find you.
>>537260229epoch says no paid convenience
>>537260279sw park (• ◡•)
IT'S OVER
>>537260441r-really? ‿
>>537260408The Jamey, Akalix, Shenna, Pepesmite, and ofcourse Bowser Krogge doo detective agency is on a life raft to SiberiaTumor weeks of Indy
>>537260451They got bought by Ascension. That won't hold for long.
>>537260472Anonu I in Town Sqware. This person lying to you.
>>537260596Come to ratchet.
>>537260596Come to Scholomance and ilI teach you a lesson in manners
Did someone backup https://github.com/tairasu/TurtleSilicon? Already got deleted before I could back it up.
new>>537260746>>537260746>>537260746
fakecels as soon as a tranny shows up
https://github.com/tairasuLooks like this is the first victim of Blizzard, although I don't think directly related to the lawsuit posted here, Blizzard likely sent out some sort of legal notices to people like this when they filed the lawsuit.fwiw, this was the person behind the MacOS launcher
>>537260821too far I don't even have a mount ◡_◡
Fell for the gurucrashi meme and between the constant crashes, bugged quests, bugged phases/zones, shitty changes and getting ass raped constantly while leveling, because no faction balance was implemented, I deleted my shit. Should I give anbershite a chance or just ger out of this entirely?
>>537261286yesh come on the chinese server
>>>/trash/77506751
>>537261286turtle gonna have some issues soon. even if not fully brought down, any team members outside of russia gonna have a real bad time right now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's host and other issues in the near future so servers might go to shit for a bit
>>537261456hahahahahaha
>>537261286Ambie hype!
>>537261203I didn't get anything and some of my stuff are in the launcher.
>>537261456What is this supposed to be outside of just porn shit?
>>537262183The kinds of people you are sharing this thread with.
>>537262183That's Evil's GM
>>537262380i wish it wasn't
>>537060092could i get the unedited version of this pic?
>>537254159>what jurisdiction does blizzard have?they can just transfer "ownership" to more shell companies or other non US/EU individuals/entities. blizzard can't do shit. this is a move of utter desperation. they would rather spend millions on lawyers than stop allowing RMT on their official turd servers.also, reverse engineering is legal in the US. this is how gameshark and other such hardware was allowed to exist in the heyday of consoles. the only legitimate copyright infringement claims they have are possibly against individual players for pirating the client.
>>537254970>IMAGINE FUCKING ADMITTING THIS IN A PUBLIC COURT DOCUMENTit's just legalese. you could sue someone for 100 bucks and the lawyers will say that it was for irreparable harm.
>>537258960>They are going after EVERYBODY involved with turtleat best they can scare a few people into quitting the dev team. if anyone was receiving payments from Turtle WoW, hopefully they registered an LLC and paid their taxes. this escalating tax fraud is what i would be most worried about in their position. but if they had a proper corporate structure to funnel payments through, they probably aren't keeping funds in the name of the "company" (all of it is paid out as salary) and aren't liable beyond their personal shell company's bank accounts.also, there is absolutely nothing Blizzard can do against anyone not based in the US/EU and affiliated countries (Astralia, Canada).
