>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Xyh3SciAM [Open]>Raidou Remastered World Spotlight:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIr3mDfEAlo [Open]>VV has a demo now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Br8Pt11f0 [Open]>SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon>Atlus 2025 Aspirations Tease Upcoming Announcement from Shin Megami Tensei Team, New Experience from Persona Team:https://personacentral.com/atlus-2025-aspirations-tease/>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/>Vengeance OST scanshttps://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarterhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home>Archive of 3DS Texture Packshttps://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks are now available on digital streaming services>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf>20XX rereleased on April 24th for the Nintendo Switch. Steam on May 8thhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3652460/GMODE_20XX/>Gmode announced they're reteleasing Smt Tokyo Requiemhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3713410/GMODE/Last cycle: >>536694261
>>537240213I know no one wants to bother cleaning up the OP but>Raidou has been out for a while>so has the VV update>the 2025 aspirations are already outdated>g-mode games should be at the top because it's more recent
>>537240352but I'm a neutralfag
Chaos has fallen
I appreciate that those dudes sniped the EP translation from CJ to make sure it actually got released at ALL, as opposed to never.But its kind of a subpar translation, the further you go the more stilted and low quality the dialogue gets. The first half of the games script compared to the second half feels like it was done by two different groups entirely, maybe they just got weary over time and settled with just totally literal stiff translations instead of putting more effort in to make it read well. This is not an exaggeration I promise, 80% of the text boxes in the 2nd half of the game have multiple ellipses in them and are weirdly fragmented because they're sticking so hard to the original japanese sentence structure.
which one is better?
>>537248159VV. VV is a better version of an existing game, P3R is a worse version of an existing game. If you want to play P3, emulate FES.
>>537248159Vengeance is genuinely in the top 5 of JRPGs released in the past 15 years. Reload is a half-assed remake that gets a million nitpicks even from people who supposedly liked it. The way it ruined the OG game's direction & characters is criminal.
>>537248159They both suck but at least VV improves upon the original
>>537248159>RPis it just me or am i noticing a lot more foreigners in /v/ and /vg/. it's funny how this is the site that screeches ESL ESL ESL all the time like a boogeyman but like 90% of you fucks are third world uneducated retards.
>>537248368>>537248798>>537253136exactly what i was talking about last thread too
>>537254351>is it just meNo, it's pretty common knowledge letting Indians on to the internet was a mistake. They should have their own internet like China and not be allowed outside of their quarantine.>>537254452Specify what you're whining about, retard
>>537254351I didn't choose to be born brown...
>>537248159>a bit less than 19€ in Indonesia>27€ in yuropRegionnal pricing is nice.Also to answer your question, VV is better.
>>537254351I've been calling others ESL because I am ESL myself.There's nothing wrong with being ESL and most people who use it as an actual insult are either insecure US americans or ESL guys who find it the most offensive word in the world.
What's the name of that fucking demon that's a purple lady with a knife on her mouth? It popped up in my head out of nowhere and I can't remember.
>>537258423Rangda?
So, why exactly did Raidou get censored, and SMTVV did not?Also, I surely am not the only who thinks that some demon designs in SMTVI will get censored too? We were pretty lucky that SMTVV mostly stayed as it was, even though they did censor the panties, and restricted Free Camera.
>>537259125We don't know, the censorship doesn't even make sense because lewder demons were untouched.I assume they had (((guidelines))) and took it literally, such as "not upskirt" but showing ass without a skirt is ok.>Also, I surely am not the only who thinks that some demon designs in SMTVI will get censored too? Depend entirely on the age rating Atlus will be aiming for.I also heard that Nintendo has gone back to censoring so that won't help either.
>>537259125>So, why exactly did Raidou get censored, and SMTVV did not?I can imagine it's because they wanted to sell the former in Taiwan, Korea and eventually China but the plans fell through.SMTVV on the other hand is much more hard to censor because it's got actual blood and more sexually charged dialogue paired with designs like Cleopatra. All Raidou had in comparison was covered boobs without bras and the imperial flag.
>>537259006Nah dude, Rangda is iconic. I'm pretty sure the demon I'm thinking of never left the super famicom games. Here's a shitty sketch of what I think it looks like.
>>537259871https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/HagThis bitch
>>537256595Ronde's influence is insane
>>537259705>I can imagine it's because they wanted to sell the former in Taiwan, Korea and eventually China but the plans fell through.Raidou is available in both Taiwan and China but not Korea.https://steamdb.info/app/2288350/
>>537259951>literally just called hagLmao, thank you. I can rest easy now.
>>537260102How did they censor the skeletons for the chinese version...?
I had a dream about an SMT game that doesn't exist.>it was in a style similar to IV>dream primarily focused on one location which was a haunted mansion>mansion filled with the ghosts of dead kids who you had to solve the issues of for them to pass on>these were primarily side quests, and if you said the wrong things to them they'd get pissed and it'd effect your alignment>also in the dream I ended up accidentally turned the game off before I could save so I lost a lot of progress at that mansion.>also Nightmare was there which was cool
What the fuck do SMTers even mean when they say Asahi is poorly written?
>>537248159VV I had a better time with. P3R is legit a downgrade in the gameplay department, play FES if you want to play P3.
>>537262302I've only heard people complain about the other companions thoughever
>>537211447Happy to say this is already a massive improvement over the previous titles. It's absolutely oozing with charm and the enemy sprites are surprisingly hilarious from a depressed basset hound style Kobold to Lemurians who look like someone plopped googly eyes on their pet lizard and sent them to war.I wanted to name the Wild Arms lookin ass MC Rudy only to find out that's also my brother's name. So in proper sibling fashion I changed my little bro's name to something more suitable.Our erstwhile protagonist also managed to get stabbed by splinters, get smacked in the back of the head by crate lids, and got their hand stuck in jars while looking for stupid shit, just like me.
>>537262302My experience (long ago admittedly) was less she's outright bad but more a mixed bag that teeters onto annoying.>Halleuljah's recruit sceneCan someone please throw the pet dog a dictionary and what "Spy" means? She looks like she can read.>Arc about being useless in Mr.Steals Your Press Turns' eyesExcept she's far and away the strongest partner and bullies everything until she leaves (and only tails off endgame because Debilitate is more expensive than Mediarahan). Less writing and more one of IVA's implementation missteps but the dissonance doesn't help everyone involved.>Kanda no YashiroI do like the idea of her being so gusto to accept Odin's offer but she should only start holding regret AFTER Sukuna-Hikuna. Her doing it halfway into the dungeon when all you did was bully a pair of Principialities (and maybe an Ippon Datara?) and maybe grabbed a phone (the early domain side quest) feels way too fast.
>>537264271>dog with man head>man with dog headit's like poetry
>>537262302Asahi herself isn't poorly written on the face of it, its more so the character archtype feels out of place in an SMT game. Most of the apocalypse friends feel like out of place archetypes, barring maybe... gaston. In regards to specifically toki it was even brought up that the character was "not in the spirit of megaten" by some people on the dev team but the issue was ignored.
toki erotic!
>>537259125>SMTVV mostly stayed as it was, even though they did censor the panties, and restricted Free Camera.They did? Man, I'm glad I have vanilla V unless they did something in its last update
Playing VV for the 1st time. Looking up the endings and it is a bit confusing. Should I do all CoC endings before moving on to CoV endings?
>>537267741If you want the full story, play CoC first and go for true neutral. Then play CoV and go for either law or chaos, it doesn't matter unless the demons you get for the ending matter to you.
>>537260553Based on the steamdb data, it seems they weren't censored as the game is the same across all regions.Looking at the history, they weren't actually sure that they were going to release it in China/Taiwan (and some other asian countries) but it seems they got the ok at the last minute.
>>537266793ToT...
>>537240213So since God abandoned humanity and never intended to bring about the millennium kingdom, did lucifer straight up lie to Gotou about God’s plans?
>>537266484I like how Yamai just ignored what Shioda said and kept babbling on about his barely disguised fetish.
>>537272012Not really, even though YHVH never intended to come down the angels were determined to make the kingdom happen with or without him and were going to enact their plan no matter what.
>>537240213Remember when neutral was about integration of both law and chaos instead of a retarded rejection of both?
>>537272642Nope
>>537267002PC version can fix it though. As it did with the restricted camera.As it can fix SMTVI when it gets censored. Unless the censorship goes another mile.
>>537267741Literally if you play SMT V you may as well get all the endings through New Game + and beat shiva last so you can get the ‘secret ending’, since the alternative is just endless grinding to beat shiva. Will take you the same amount of time whether you get all the endings or the ‘secret’ one in one ending
>>537273963Keep in mind you can beat smt V in like five seconds in new game +
who's this demon??is it the dog girl whose name I forgot? she's not in Raidou Remastered
>>537274139It takes around an hour to run through a route
>>537274178looks like Throne to me
>>537274334oh yeah it's him, thanks!
>>537256595Ronde is everywhere if you have the eyes to see it
SMTV is basically a "what if the heroine reincarnated into a male body" scenario.
>>537272642It's almost always been fence sitting and refusal to bring about lasting change. Neutral is the path of half-measures and putting off the problem.
>>537266484>>537266114>>537262648exactly what i'm talking about last thread again
>>537275668Is "fence sitter" the worst insult you can throw at a neutral fag? I think so.
>>537275742Elaborate?
>>537275913I'll sit on the fence while burning down the lawn on both sides
>>537272642It was never about this but if you want this experience play SMTV. Because duality is what that game is all about.
>>537275968It's this samefag forcing something >>537254452. Wouldn't surprise me if it's the same guy who keeps asking if the general is full of bots.
>>537276620Thats funny, I'm one of the people hes replying to in both instances. I think hes just discovering the concept of regular posters in real time.
>>537276620I think you're a schizophrenic. I'm going to call you bobby.
>>537277912I'd ask for a cooler name but then I realized our resident schizo has the gayest name ever so it fits.
Is it true that SEGA told Atlus to stop making updated versions of games a-la Maniax, FES, etc or did I dream it up?
>>537278472Yes
>>537278472No
>>537278472Maybe
>>537278472Sorta they said they're focusing on DLC instead.Funny because SMT VV is their latest game and surprise surprise.
>>537274734That can't be Raidou, he doesn't have the Kaneko lip
>>537274734Why is Raidou grooming kids on Roblox?
>>537274734he's real
>>537279053I'd ask why that anon is playing Roblox instead, seeing the filename
>>537279240True, that's a lot of Roblox images.
>>537275668It’s the solar path of Tiferet really, the path of balance, the issue is that while the sun is the balance of all things it becomes egotistical and self-obsessed when it itself is out of balance (you can see neutral egotism in Dagda and Isamu, also with how the argument against neutral is that it solves nothing and it amounts to being overtly optimistic over a flawed humanity, also in how SMT V’s neutral route puts humanity at such a high pedestal it destroys all demons) . Neutral is best when it takes on law and chaos when needed, going with the flow of things.
>>537276143So I take it you didn’t play SMT 1? Because it’s exactly that in SMT 1
>>537262302haven't played the game in a while but I recall her seeming way too cheery and optimistic throughout the game as if nothing was affecting her and it felt really off. also I don't think even her dad affected her much past the scene where it happens
>>537275668SMT1 is very clear that Neutral is the right choice and at least provides the possibility of a better future unlike Law or Chaos which will only end badly, but apparently to stupid westoids if something isn't eternal it's useless.
>>537280830I mean while the law ending is quite good, neutral is the end that makes the most thematic sense for SMT 1 and I find that’s the case with every game and its thematic alignment. Even SMT 2 chaos and neutral endings kind of lead towards law if you think about it, and expand the law ending further since law is the ending that puts an end to the cycle. SMT 3 reasons and neutral ending emphasise the never ending cycle (as demifiend will still have to deal with the Great Will chasing him in neural), and TDE builds on this set up
>>537281553I could see SMT 2 being a cycle for aleph, starting with neutral, and then chaos, and ending with Law
>>537274734>no sideburns
>>537281553Law is not good when you're at the mercy of YHVH and the zealots at the top.
>>537283206I see YHVH in SMT as kind of like a computer program meant to perform an important function (which is literally Law in the most abstract sense) by the Great Will, but it ends up overperforming that function to the point it causes problems
>>537280372>>537275913
I love this artist because his art is not only good, he understands all the smt games he plays and appreciates them. He's also starting a project of making a manga out of the entire plot of smt1. Also draws very cute heroines.
>>537289047devouring Argilla's ass...
>Page 10
>>537304084
>>537259871nice drawing lol
Yeah, idgaf. This shit is hella cute, I wouldn't mind more of this in SMT games but nooooooooOooOoooO (le not in the spirit of megaten).alright.
>>537304528also is it a dropped subplot that hallujah has a crush on asahi or something? ngl he's giving me heavy ntr vibes.
>>537304528Are you just shitposting at this point or is this sincere, I can't really tell
>>537289047why are lesbians so hot
>>537305110forbidden fruit
>>537304528Persona. The series you want is Persona.
>>537304380Thanks anon. I wanted to draw more today, but shit just isn't working.
>>537305428People always say IVA is the persona SMT game but honestly, I think saying IVA's writing is persona like is a disservice to persona. Outside of persona 4 I find the average persona character more likeable than the dregs in apocalypse. Its not just that apocalypse is just a completely different tone and genre than what's expected of SMT, its a different tone and genre written BADLY.
>>537304897>>537306061oh sorry nevermind. I WISH I WAS CHAOS HERO AND FUSED WITH DEMONS AND FUCK EVERYONE ELSE STRENGTH RULES FUCKING OZAWA REEEEEEEE
Sol N
>>537306698ice Friend
>>537306851:)
OZAWAAAAAAAAAA
>>537307604literally who
>>537307604cool
Gimme a demon to draw, the drawing is going to suck ass btw.
>>537308059The DDSMT version of Baal
>>537308236>>537308059The original sprite
I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes
SMT but it has insert songs for the final boss themes by japanese rock and metal bands
>>537309573thl
>>537240213真 /smtg/ plays anchor post真 /smtg/ plays page:>https://rentry.org/shin-smtg-playsany suggestions for the event or rentry page?remember that you'll need 10 points in aleph's magic to progress past a certain point.>how's your playthrough going?>favorite demons?>favorite music track?>favorite character?>worst part?
SMT but straight
>>537311713boy do I have the series for you: Pokemon
>>537311713What deluded /v/fags believe V was because they'll have to say they didn't like V otherwise.
They should make an SMT themed pikmin-like where you run around in makai with 100 demons completing tasks
>>537312274Now imagine a game like that on switch.
>>537312248It's really funny how this game makes some people go into maximum cope, the mental gymnastics are borderline Olympic levels.
>lewd hunter losing her life when the demons attacked the shelterdamn....she was my favorite npc.
>>537312105The games? Straighter. The fanbase? Way fucking gayer.
>>537315328You gotta Tensei that Megami
>>537318914Shin
>>537315240It's only /v/ that acts this way about the game. Anywhere else it's either known fact it's as gay as shit or it's people who don't even know what the game was about that don't care either way. They played it and moved on. Honestly I don't know how those types of people do it. They don't digest any media they consume they just jump from one to the other when one is finished. They do it will games, anime, books, etc. It baffles me.
>>537304528you finding asahi hot doesn't make the game good
>>537312274Imagine a musuo game but with actual lieutenant management. Like Persona Strikers but your other officers (demons) whom you can give direct orders too while pushing your side of the map (and even complete strategems like in Dynasty Warriors 8 for big spells; whether its a magatsuhi skill or a way for mid level demons to collect their power into a Mamudobarion/Megidolaon). Really play into Tokyo being a war zone with demons and humans. There could even be an open world angle taking inspiration from Assassin's Creed Revelations, DW9, or Shadows of War depending on how you want things to be handled outside of battle.>FusionPerhaps make it where the infantry you slay have essence of their race and that helps with making fusions without making. This way it isn't just officer assassination while keeping fusions around. Recruiting officers to join you could still be a thing too, probably basing it off of reducing morale (use of strategems/beating infantry/capturing bases to showcase you're the real deal) with sharing alignment probably lessening how broken their will has to be.
>>537240213Sex with Kitsunes
>>537323271there are none in SMT
>>537323697ENTER
after i beat persona 3 should i play smt 3 or digital devil saga?
>>537332109both are good
>>537332604the story to dds sounds very interesting although now that i think about it, i might put that off until later since there are two games and smt 3 has been on my radar for a while now
>>537264271>the mutant "unicorn" is just a hippo with a horn glued on it's snout.kekI have come to the conclusion that this game is kino and a hidden gem. I'm not even out of the starting area yet and I can't remember the last time I've laughed so much when playing vidya. Demons being able to level up and inherit skills from fusions is also a huge QoL change. Hope that makes it into the main series.
>>537240213I managed to beat it without cheating, but Jesus Christ what were they thinking?
>>537336594You got to pit in work if you want that 100% magnatama achievement
>>537336731I mean you miss out on a whole dungeon if you don’t in the original, nevermind how important pierce is for TDE
>>537336594They wanted to give our Brains a little workout.
>>537337471>tfw INT skill check You guys didn’t use a guide did you?
>>537337781Using a guide is the high INT play
>>537337781No, but I quit at stage 11, so I need to get some more wrinkles in my smooth brain for the next time I want to try puzzle boy again.
>>537338937You aren’t getting the full Japanese Freudian sadomasochistic experience
What is Kaneko's best human design
>>537342129Maya or anybody from DDS
>>537336594I remember having the physical guide for Nocturne and I would occasionally consult it for the fusion chart and shit. I did most of the puzzles raw, but I eventually got tired of some of the later ones and just checked the guide, but the last few in the book were incorrect, so I had to solve them raw anyway.
>>537342129Raidou, Hero from SMT1, Tamaki
What is Kaneko's worst human design
We're getting news this month bros. I can feel it. The drought is about to end!
>>537345774The news: SMTV Switch 2 (3 new demons + Joker guest character)
SMT x EO
I want to fill Yuzuru's holes
Can we get a single post here that's not a meme
>>537308831
>>537345774It's hee hover
>>537350446bnnuy
EO > SMT > Personawe all agree right
>>537352147Stop. Bnnuy isn’t cute when it’s a grown ass man
>>537352690Koshimizu's whole appeal is being a sad sack of shit so giving him bunny ear humiliation rituals is necessary.
>>537352842This
>>537334514maybe I'll play this
What if Nahobino but fuchsia
>>537361584Nahobino but pink white and blue
>>537307472The chaos hero x Ozawa agenda is expanding.
where's the gay elemental when you need him
>>537345774the only news I want is atlus shutting down
>>537367156PM posting doesn't bother me, oddly enough
>>537373578gay
i might not make it past these fans in the demon king castle
>>537345774It's only been a year since VV, right? Or was it two...?Either way, that's certainly not enough to count as a drought?
top 3 smt moments for sure.
hows the raidou demake? should i consoom and buy it? fuck atlus
>>537382778It doesn't look very good to me, they've made questionable to bad rewrites of the plot, the artstyle and colors of the original are almost entirely scrubbed in favour of more highly saturated light tones and they've done the sega remake meme of increasing the amount of green in the game by huge amount. They've censored some demons including lamia, who has appeared in games with a 3D model uncensored for fucking decades until this arbitrary moment. Nothing I've heard about the gameplay sounds like so significant an improvement either, people keep acting like the new raidou spells and moves are a groundbreaking addition as if its not actually just slightly altered mechanics that WERE in the original but removed. Its not additions, its equivalent exchange. The new raidou elemental spells are just a shuffled version of the elemental bullets with the resource management aspect removed and the other new raidou abilities are just equivalents to the demon combo moves they removed from 1, they even work on cooldown like those.The most I can say is if you're a demon obsessed autist and you really just wanna play it with more demons maybe you could go for it, I almost considered purchasing it on those grounds. But I've already played the original and I don't think its worth it at the current price.Waiting for that shit to be at least half price or more on CDkeys or something and for a decent amount of mods to be out before I consider it a worthwhile purchase
>>537383908I wonder how much effort it would take to unfuck the colors
>>537382778Gameplay is better than the original but that's not saying much considering what the original is actually like, basically a fleshed out and modernized Raidou 2. Graphical improvements are alright at best and at worst stiff and lifeless, though the fully rendered 3D environments are nice. Somewhat overpriced despite the big overhaul, so get it during a sale, buy it used, or just pirate it if you're not that desperate to play it. The worst parts are the weird story rewrites that vary from "this was probably changed to avoid ruffling any feathers" to "just what the fuck were they thinking?"tl;dr an overall smoother experience without the old game's jank but at the cost of some soul, try it if you're bored
>>537382778It's good, Artemis and Lamia and the Imperial Japan flag and admiral are censored and the last dungeon have some rewrites.Gameplay is much better.Art wise, they removed the sepia filter, which triggered some anons here and some areas look worse than in the original but only dark harumi-cho looks very bad.>>537383908>Nothing I've heard about the gameplay sounds like so significant an improvement either, people keep acting like the new raidou spells and moves are a groundbreaking addition as if its not actually just slightly altered mechanics that WERE in the original but removed.You're full of shit faggot, the gameplay of the original is terrible and objectively bad.
Look at this cutie.
>>537384661Do you have any actual argument as to how the raidou spells and and moves are objectively an improvement from elemental bullets and demon combo moves or are you just going to settle with a childish "Y-YOU'RE LYING" Last time I brought up combo skills here people acted like I was making up a mechanic and they weren't in 1 at all so forgive me if I'm hesitant to respect the value of raidou 1 gameplay critiscm here
>>537384846how cute is her cock
>>537382778They are questionable, some improvements are good, some they didn't even touch, others is the awful localization and the game was downright broken on launch.It's more like 2 gameplay wise but it looks uglier.
>>537384951cute and feminine
>>537384938>elemental bullets>demon combo moves Funny how you focused on those when I was talking about gameplay as a whole.Demon combo moves got streamlined and are still in the game, you just have a generic one for everyone.Gun is arguable, many think it's worse while I think it's ok.But you failed to mention many of the other improvements taken from Raidou 2 that makes the combat much better.
KMT remake when?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M9fv18GRcg
>>537385472I focused on those because thats the part you quoted from my post retard kun.Its not even like I think raidou 1 is a perfect game, but one of my biggest gripes with it, the steadily inflating boss healthbars as the game goes on, doesn't even seem like it was fixed. All the footage I saw of the late game bosses looked just as health inflated.Also, I was up front with the fact I didn't play the remaster. I explicitly said "Nothing I've heard about the gameplay sounds like so significant an improvement" and mentioned I'm not planning on buying it until a significant price cut.So if there are more added mechanics beyond those that I've been unaware of you only have atlus to blame for not advertising them enough, and I guess yourselves (fans of the remaster) for not talking about said new features enough. Maybe if you'd sold it better it'd sound appealing enough to buy.
not buying the demaster slop, simple as
>>537386045>I focused on those because thats the part you quoted from my postI only wanted to quote the first part but quoted too much and was too lazy to change.>the steadily inflating boss healthbars as the game goes on, doesn't even seem like it was fixed. All the footage I saw of the late game bosses looked just as health inflated.Actually they did fix that, while they still have a lot of HP, most bosses are faster to kill than in the original.Even the hardest mode is still easier and more manageable than the original's Devil Mode, which was honestly bullshit.>So if there are more added mechanics beyond those that I've been unaware of you only have atlus to blame for not advertising them enough, and I guess yourselves (fans of the remaster) for not talking about said new features enoughThe people who liked the remaster here did talk about how the combat was improved by adding elements from Raidou 2.Atlus did too but only in japanese I think, they quickly gave up on trying to appeal to gaijin.
>>537386537Even now, I'm not getting a clearer picture. WHAT mechanics from raidou 2 in particular? The focus on the luck stat? The talk skills on all demons? The negotiations in battle?I would've given props for not making the light world just as packed with encounters as the dark realm, which was another of my genuine issues from the original I would have been happy to see fixed normally (and was happy raidou 2 fixed). But in exchange they just plopped in a demon symbol system that also didn't particularly appeal to me, and the gameplay I saw made it looked like they didn't even have active hitboxes and would only trigger encounters if you actively attacked them rather then just touching them.
>>537240213>smt 2 law end
>>537386956>WHAT mechanics from raidou 2 in particular? How Raidou move and fight in particular.>The focus on the luck stat? Nope, it's the stat you raise last.>The talk skills on all demons? Nope, Raidou handle everything.>The negotiations in battle?Nope, they're overall much easier now.>I would've given props for not making the light world just as packed with encounters as the dark realmThere's no random encounter in the human world anymore (except for the Training Halls who exist for that purpose of course).Dark world has on-field enemies that appear randomly instead of random encounter.>they didn't even have active hitboxes and would only trigger encounters if you actively attacked them rather then just touching themThey do but if they're not aggro they need to stay in contact with Raidou for an entire second before triggering a battle.It's instant if they are aggro though.The game was overall made much easier and the joke is that many nips still thought it was too hard.I would recommend starting the game immediatly on hard if you ever play it (the hardest mode need to be unlocked by finishing the game once).
Can we all agree Tae is fuckable?
>>537388035she's ok, I like Nagi more
>>537388146Also based taste
>>537388035That's not Tae, that's a whore cosplaying as her.Would though.Nagi is cuter and the actual wife.
Do you imagine a personality for each MC or do you just play them as if they were (you)? I was thinking since the games are in RPG genre how exactly do people do the role playing part
>>537388858sometimes the dialogue choices hint at their personalities so I do think of them as their own characters
>>537388858The former because if I had to larp as myself, 90% of the game would be me fucking demon girls.
>>537388858When I go in blind I go with choices that I would make to see what ending fits me more, but on repeat runs or when I know a bit about the game before playing I try to imagine a character beforehandHonestly imagining a character for Nanashi made my first apoc run way better because I knew that I wanted to do the Massacre route but still would have the peanut gallery with me most of the game so I made Nanashi be basically neutral in the choices basically making him a rude guy that you could still see the others not hating, I also tried to always be nice to Asahi just because I thought it made sense since they were childhood friends, didn't know she got chomped at one point but that also helped the character I was going for because after that I just went 100% in the Dagda is right path, also made the choice of megami to tensei easy
>>537334514>Plot sets up a redemption arc for the local town bully, even tells you he's going to try his damndest to shape up and become a hero that people can be proud of.>"oh hey by the way I launched your little brother out of the evacuation shuttle and directly into the ocean because he was crying about his parents leaving and it was kinda bringing my mood down.">Every imperial grunt is your average fantasy magitech foot soldier, every "general" is a low effort caveman sprite>Game makes a serious distinction between Beasts (basically pokemon, mostly harmless and just wanna be your friend) and Demons (horrorshow eldritch motherfuckers who will tear your guts out and eat your bones, most are dead but can be revived via necromancy or some similar magic)>The first demon you encounter has already killed several children on a small island in extremely gruesome ways.>When you finally see him his sprite is a cutesy Creature from the Black Lagoon plushThe people who made this game were clearly taking the piss and I love them for it. It feels like a Fantasy take on Mother.
>>537388858I like to roleplay sometimes. My first playthrough I do whatever I want to do, but then afterwards I like to roleplay a certain character and act the way they would react to a situation.
anyone else only do one alignment per game?
>>537395162Yep, Law every time.
>>537395162I'm only just starting but I've been going with whatever happens based on choices I would have made in that position. So far I've ended up neutral in almost every game but Spiral Nemesis where I ended up with Chaos, though I'm honestly not sure what I did to reach that point.
>>537380947this was so stupid it ended up being good. the fucking hyper-realistic jump scare image where he looks like the joker.
I'm almost at the split and now I'm hard debating if I should go bonds again (as I did when I first played the game as a teen) or fuck it anarchy. I went into this planning to go massacre (betrayal, so navarre throws my shit) but losing my shit is starting to feel a little....shitty. I'm also really growing to like the cast quite a bit and witnessing Flynn + Jonathan + Walter vs YHVH fight is some fucking kino shit that I'll miss out on. Maybe I'll keep going and see if it still "sorta" makes sense to pick Massacre from a story perspective if I just RP as Nanashi tired of everyone's shit after Asahi died and he goes full nuclear. Does IVA have any route exclusive demons?
>>537396448I thought it was a weird shitpost before I actually played the game
>>537397505make daddy Dagda proud, pussy
>>537397561>>537396448meh I don't see the "stupid" part, I mean yeah ULTRA HYPERREALISTIC BLOOD FLYNN is "goofy" out of context but just getting that plot twist (yes yes I know there was some hints and foreshadowing but let's be honest, I think people just handwaved it away since we don't know "canon Flynn personality"
>>537397863like I think the only blemish I have on Bonds even though yes yes blah blah it's a cycle waaa waaa neutral ending basic ass shit endings blah blah was Dagda but I wonder if there's some subtext I'm missing. Like at least Nozomi had an email I missed the first time that at least explained "oh if we don't reveal the traitor, everyone's going to get paranoid" but I don't know how the dagda shit is going to get redeemed in bonds. but fuck bonds had some kino ass moments. I mean Massacre might be neat but idk how You + Satan vs YHVH will work without the whole Flynn + Jonathan + Walter thing.
>>537388858I play them mostly as if they were me and see where my choices fall within, especially on a first playthrough. Seeing my name (or some approximation in the case of "Bob", not doxing myself here you fujos) in dialogue boxes does a lot for me. For repeat playthroughs it depends. If I'm hunting for a full compendium, than the MC is just a flesh automaton animated by neural transmitters as I focus on demon unlocks/alignment I missed (a peer into an alternate self where I decided to drink Law's koolaid or be the ultimate cringe). If I'm just enjoying the game like for the /smtg/ plays than I'll self-insert and be honest once more.>>537397505>Route exclusive demonsNot that I recall, the demon unlocks are just from clearing the game regardless of route. The one thing I do recommend is that you make sure you handle Twisted Tokyo before you're done because that's where the Fiends are at (dungeon blows and sucks simultaneously but at least it isn't 1/256 odds again).Might be misremembering/ignorant but IVA might be first modern SMT game where you can't directly name the MC, you can name Nanashi's "hunter name" but not Nanashi himself.
>>537397505You could always save before the split. The fight against Dagda is pretty great when he takes back his power and none of your demons listen to you But, going nuclear and fighting against all of humanity is just really fun too.
>>537380947What is up with that font? It doesn't look like the normal IVA font, right.
>>537382778It's good and I liked it. I wouldn't call it more than good though even if it had everything I enjoyed from Raidou 2 and more. The reason why I say so is because while the graphics look nice and more saturdated, a lot of demon models do not and the different artstyles are especially blatant this time around.Raidou on PS2 was peculiar because it had some demon designs that were re-textured (and, well, had to have some polygons shaved off of them) to look different, like Legion and Beelzebub being made of bones, and even ones that do not look different have minor changes, like Thor's cracked horns.The Remaster does away with this, which is most likely done to save time and to homogenize series' designs, but I think it sucks, it's a missed opportunity and besides the demon models are a mixed bag: SMTV/V imports look like they are made of clear plastic and P5 imports look straight up like toys (surprisingly Beelzebub looks fine).Most people who call the Remaster bad on here did not play it and do not know how the story changes are handled: most of them sound retarded out of context but I played it and they actually made sense and aren't badly placed, though I understand if the guys who originally brought these changes up on Xitter or whatever disliked them, because said changes contribute to the Remaster having a much more upbeat vibe akin to Raidou 2's. The final boss and Raido are much more souped up characters in the Remaster and the japanese dub is great. I don't have much space left to talk about gameplay... it's much more fun than the first game's and it's more in line with Raidou 2's. The gun stunlocks demons but it lacks its old oomph and now Raidou can use magic skills which are fine very early on but they are easily surclassed by busted shit like MAG recharge (fun) and Zeal.Anyway, you can pirate it and see it for yourself, it's pretty easy to do so.
>>537388035Raidou is gay and Tae is made for big Chaos cock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO4d0-nA0ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGylog7s_8Y
>>537405763Okay Dahn
Oddly relevant Demon Expansion Mod update if anyone's curioushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSDHPxe3w4w
>>537414050where did they get these models from?
>>537414832He makes them himself using the VV and Dx2 models as a base.
>>537414832The outfits and hair are from SMT imagine, I think he made the faces from scratch
>>537414832He also sometimes uses AI iirc if the character doesn't have a 3D model to go with I think (Shekinah being the example).
ya know I love kaneko but his DT designs in DMC are awful desu
>>537417656They were modeled poorly in game, not his fault.
>>537417656This is fucking kino though?
>>537417841>>537418351nope they look dumb, sorry
Damn. Lucy's right hand sure is strong
>>537418351They would look cooler if they weren't barefoot.
awwstill kinda gay though
When can I play Devil Survivor?
should i continue to vengeance with newborn or reborn?
>>537420289right now
>>537420289When you finish your chores
I think 4A might be my favorite mainline. My only complaint is I wish it was longer. Some moments are paced too fast
>>537419280They both put their hands on their hearts and Vkun got an Aogami flashback of all their moments together they showed in game. It was extremely gay if not explicit.
>>537388858I usually come up with a character personality and try to stick to it. I try to divorce character morality from my own and act out what I think the person I came up with or that is hinted at by NPC interactions would do. For Strange Journey, I made Doom Guy a no-nonsense, consummately professional soldier and operative who wasn't afraid to shoulder inordinate amounts of work to complete the mission. If a task was given, he'd complete it. Even after the apparent betrayal by the committee back on Earth, he was still in it to get his comrades home. He was also a gun aficionado with a near-fetishistic affinity for maintenance. Coming up with and sticking to a character tends to greatly enhance the experience for me, so I try to do something different in each game. If a personality for the MC is hinted at, then I usually try to incorporate it in my interpretation.
>>537421204>>537421704My bad . I wanted to say where I can play Devil Survivor. Because I was so dumb I forgot to download the game before the EoS of 3DS shop. That’s the only one I don’t have.
>>537423532hShop
>>537394159We found out the one demon was actually a whole gang of demons who were raised in a Dark Seed esque lab in an abandoned mine. We stomped their shit but the Lich who made them showed up and killed the shit out of our teacher with a single touch before going on a slow rampage across the island draining the life force from everything on it. We and the other survivors manage to escape by launching several dinghies and leaving our fates up to the unforgiving whims of the ocean currents.Afterwards we're rescued by two mercenary beasts and get conscripted by the local imperials to help stop an invasion of werewolves, with what seems to be a choice of who to side with. Tragically the imperials are such tremendously shit people that they have me preferring to cooperate with furries over them. My honor may never recover.
Why does asura know how to time travel via akanara but lucifer doesn't? Is he stupid?
>>537427376>Is (Chaos) stupid?Yes
Is IMAGINE canon?Is NINE canon?Is GITEN canon?Is 20XX canon?There sure is a lot going on in-between the nukes dropping and tokyo millennium being built.
>finally sold my switch>left without any consoles for the first time, just the faithful pcwhat a gay timeline where every console manufacturer decided to shit the bed, will miss my physical SMT games man.
>>537428027all alternate universes
who the fuck translated SMT IVA? why is it so fucking memey what the fuck
>>537434403relax homeslice
>>537434403relax kid
>>537434403Thats just what Atlus were doing at that point in time. Devil survivor 2 Record Breaker is the same. Take a look at that games translation compared to the original DS release. They retranslated it and legit added a le epic joke, quip or meme that wasn't originally there on average every 4 dialogue boxes, its insufferable.
>>537435408At least we've kind of moved away from that
What's the /vg/erdict on the Raidou remake?
>>537439715it fucking sucks
>>537439715Literally scroll up.
>>537439715It's good.
>>537439715Look out everyone! Its the antagonist of the 3rd Raidou game, Asupekkuto Kuzunoha II!I liked the remaster a lot and look forward to Raidou 2 Remastered
Dagda being voiced by Ikeda is such a pick. I'm not even sure if this is entirely intentional or not.>His plan is a BUNCH has a bunch of betrayal in it.>End plan is to destroy the world so humanity can transcend.>Mommy issues.>Manipulates Children to do his bidding.
like come on lol was dagda inspired by redman or was ikeda just typecasted? I thought the Toki dialogue was mistranslated but she literally does say in Japanese "no matter what choice you make, I'll follow. We're strong together". Anyways, odds I'll betray my friends. Even I'll just do bonds again I guess.
>>537440758gay
>>537440758>>537441093fuck it I'll just watch the other route on youtube.
>>537441149damn his death probably hit me the hardest. most of your allies accept it but gaston is still probably surprised by your betrayal.
>>537398106I think the Dagda situation in the Bonds route is the most fucked up thing in the game.Independence and freedom are what he values most, then he just sees his own mother make a clone of him that's a subserviant toady made to be a living battery to keep Nanashi going, and they try to tell him that HE'S the defective one.
>>537441537He's the only one I feel bad about
THIS MOTHERFUCKER TOOK MY GEMS TOO?!WHAT THE FUCK I THOUGHT IT'S JUST DISPOSABLE ITEMS MY FUCKING DIAMONDS AHHHHHH
>>537441612Navarre felt bad too especially reading his last email to you. Although this segment is kinda weird with Toki and everyone acting like it's an actual "choice" like lmao what the fuck is this.Dagda just shows up and goes "hey u gonna destroy the universe with me or not" and everyone's like don't do it wtf but they're also like "don't regret your choice! :D whatever happens happens."
>>537440295I played the dub on release, and I really liked the accent on ENG Dagda.It's the voice I hear when I read Daredevil comics now. I always hate when adaptations basically forget he's supposed to be Irish.
>>537440295Probably intentional, the same year also had this ikeda character in a megaten title. Theres actually quite a few gundam references in megaten, to the extent I start getting a little paranoid schizophrenic and pull out my pepe silva dartboard out to try and determine whats a reference and whats not.100% confirmed intentional gundam references>Kaneko described the bit balls floating around SMT2 machine Medusa as mobile suit bits>Kaneko said Cybelle's original devil summoner color scheme is based on the gundam mobile suit Qubeley, which itself was named after the goddess Cybele but just had the romanisation butchered (キュベレ vs キュベレイ )>Shido >The Persona strikers character sophia has a pseudo persona that splits into drone like objects that fly around, internally the files refer to these as "funnels" after the mobile suit weapon >Rob roy in the persona gacha is a china knockoff SD gundam Then for the not confirmed as intentionally references but I'd be willing to bet are>SMT1's angel colour scheme being based on Lalah sune, a character herself often represented with angel and wing imagery >Dagda Char>Nahobinos finger swords form in the exact same way as, and have the same pool floaty physics as the garazzo's beam claw sword from gundam 00
>>537442309Dagda >>>>>> ShidoHoly letdown, how do you job so fucking hard and you KNOW how and when the Phantom Thieves are going to fuck you up. I know not a persona thread but still that was stupid as fuck.
I wonder how many SMT2 LAW defenders thought of SMT IVA dagda ending. It is somewhat similar in which "fuk everything, nuclear reset button"
>>537442309>Wonder if theres any I missed, give a cursory google search>Tons out theres a TON more in persona
Chaosfags OUT
>>537420674Reborn because you have super bosses to do.
Guess the character I'm thinking of:>name starts with a K>was rescued from a multi-headed dragon sacrifice by Susano-o>beautiful feminine features
>>537442309https://x.com/Red004Red006/status/1929116184466862520Also according to this literal who japanese users post the original japanese script version of the IV hunter tournament announcer dialogue is a reference to the G gundam tournament announcers dialogue
>>537446664Sourced it myself just to be sure, its true, its the same voice actor and even this random japanese playthrough I found picks up on the reference https://youtu.be/AhDXnxatGsUhttps://youtu.be/qfL_3hQCU6I?t=126
>>537441595I liked this part a lot
>>537444443Remember when a question like this would only have one answer? Ah the good ol' days.
>>537444443Kaneko
>>537450350Don't joke like that.
>>537440295
The Kaneko you cravenly revere is dead.Slain by my own hand, that /smtg/ might finally live unbound from their chains.
god this game is hella kino. this whole route hurts pretty bad lol.
>>537451651they are literally me
>>537428027All canon
>>537451837Kill them all anon. Picrel is what they took from you
>>537454139SOURRRRRRRRCEi picked asahi too, it just felt fitting. ngl RPing as nanashi going fucking nuclear after losing Asahi is fitting. sucks they don't give her any awakened power in this route though.
>>537240619>>so has the VV updateThey released a new update after >SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon?
>>537247720>But its kind of a subpar translation, the further you go the more stilted and low quality the dialogue gets. The first half of the games script compared to the second half feels like it was done by two different groups entirely, maybe they just got weary over time and settled with just totally literal stiff translations instead of putting more effort in to make it read well. This is not an exaggeration I promise, 80% of the text boxes in the 2nd half of the game have multiple ellipses in them and are weirdly fragmented because they're sticking so hard to the original japanese sentence structure.Didn't they literally take the PS1 script and only updated things like names of characters and spells and such?I remember people said that was basically the gist of it. Even Iwakura.>The new patch is just modifications to the original Atlus PS1 translation, similarly to what our project had planned, the only key differences being that the graphic formatting and fonts are different, and this version uses honorifics(which I tend to localize or make variations on).
>>537248159Apples and oranges.1 is a reremake while the other one is an enhanced rerelease.They're both "better" than their older versions.VV is an improvement over V. Exact same story with 1 extra route, extra quests, older DLC included by default, magatsuhi rails for easier traversal and so on.P3R is better than FES for the most part. Better visuals, better portrait sprites, better Mementos (and this matters because you spend a good chunk of the game in there, specially if you want to farm the best equipments or jewels to exchange and such), higher quality audio (though arguably worse OST since the new singer hired for the remixes is inferior than Yumi Kawamura).The only thing FES has going over P3R are the animated cutscenes that you only watch once and never again and last like 5 seconds each.They're better designed than P3R's in-engine recreations, no doubt about it, but hardly a dealbreaker.
>>537455403don't forget about the burn my dread op. it's possibly the best persona op.
>>537262302Asahi, Hallelujah, Unfunny Ghost/Schizo (that's Navarre in case you don't remember), Toki.Barring Toki they all feel like Persona rejects.Toki herself doesn't fit in neither Persona nor SMT. Maybe Soul Hackers I guess?I'm not sure if saying that they're poorly written is the way to go. They were written like they were because that was ATLUS' intention I suppose, but yeah, whatever they wanted to do was (afaiac) simply wrong.I really wish IVA wasn't anything but a re-release of 4 with the battle and menu navigation improvements, an extention to reach Yhwh's world and fight him, the Akira flashbacks (which could have been told in the form of dialogues from NPCs like Fujiwara or Skins, computer records and so on) and little else desu.
>>537456084>>537262302>inb4 why Schizo?Because of IV's postgame.Before dying a shameful death while peeping on bathing women he was basically mindbroken.I don't see a lot of people ever talking about that, but yeah, that was a thing.
SOURCE???? ANON WHERE IS IT BRO
>>537456084groannoh my freaking god god man do some satanic rituals and do a flip already jeeeeesus freaking christ
>>537267741>Should I do all CoC endings before moving on to CoV endings?If you just intend to do 1 single playthrough then don't bother with CoC, go with CoV.Playing CoC gives you context as to what certain characters are doing at some points of the story, but that's pretty much it, it doesn't have a lot of value if you don't care about the experience itself (how the story goes compared to CoV's or what actions the characters take and shit.)If you want to hunt the achievements then yeah, maybe going full CoC and then switching to CoV is a good idea so you can focus on rushing to The Empyrean after you get your first CoC clear (because the ending lock happens there, everything that comes before is exactly the same in all routes as far as I remember) and then move on to CoV once you're done.
https://youtu.be/Th6K6B5FmRk?si=GbSs8ttK4QReuYz9It kinda sucks that we'll never get this level of fucked up imagery and gore because Atlus wants SMT to be a franchise for teenagers in mind.
>>537278472No one knows if they got orders to stop doing rereleases or not, but supposedly yeah, they were going to try to stop doing that, which is why they released The Answer for P3R/Episode Aigis as a DLC instead of as a part of a rerelease (like they did back in the day.)Metaphor Refantazio didn't get any substantial DLC, so we'll have to wait a few years and see what they do with it I guess.
>>537404557AI upscaled texture pack.Did the Asahi picture with a high res sprite not clue you in?
>>537454437>spoilers Poor nanashi man. He lost his father figure and failed to promise his last words because asahi sacrificed herself. Don’t blame nanashi in destroying the world to bring her back Also no source but here’s fullhttps://files.catbox.moe/9fjovd.png
Would you buy a tamagotchi of a SMT demon?I bought one of those knock off machines recently due to nostalgia from my childhood, they are nice.
>>537397898My man, no one could have handwaved the way he acted and behaved after the smirk at the YPR.If you didn't catch that it wasn't Flynn then you just have mental retardation.(I'm using "you" as a figure of speech here.)
>>537461172Give me a tamagotchi with demons on the likes of Uma. I want Mothman to solo Makai
>>537461172Yeah, I'd buy an Abdiel tamagotchi.
>>537461243bruh maybe flynn is an asshole
how do I know if I'm BLACK HEARTED EVIL or BRAVE HEARTED HERO?
>>537461770Dazai, just buy a fleshlight.
>>537472550You have to find that damn fourth chaos emerald
>>537472550You're neutral if you're I AM ALL, I AM ALL I AM. It's a good indicator.
>>537473003>Just buy a fleshlight But I already have Senri for that.
>>537473962You'd have Abdiel pussy if you would just tell her getting an angel pregnant is part of God's plan actually. She would believe you.
I don't know how to feel about both SMT IVA ending. Bonds has that bittersweet neutral bias that yeah good job you stopped gods and demons from fucking shit up.....until god will come back. Massacre is still the same where great you created a new universe where maybe things won't end up the same but it probably will be. God I really hate SMT cyclical nature. I get you can't have a W but it just feels like every single ending since SMT1 is just "peace.....for now."
All in all, this game still sticks out as my favorite mainline. I think it sorta drops off near the end but that's almost all SMT except 3. Fun cast, addicting gameplay with problem the only SMT with full unga bunga disgaea like post game (although twisted tokyo being just one big domain is such a fucking miss. hate the domain look). best soundtrack in the series. Pacing is a little wonky but it's significantly better than 4. I'd probably put it as 4A > SJ = 3 (it's neck and neck which one I like more. Maybe SJ but 3 black sheep factor and how unique it is really makes me appreciate it more) 4 => 1 > 2. I love 2 as well but it felt too ambitious for the package it's in much like 4.
>>537476063why are westerners like this
Now to finally move on to CoV (Law) ending. Got the CoV (Chaos) first time around and I was kinda meh on it. (especially since the game doesn't split until like 10% of the end so it's so confusing when Tao follows you everywhere and Yoko splits from you thinking you got CoV law or something lol). Evens I do NG+ carrying the levels and all that shit. Odds I do NG+ not carrying shit.
For the 4A DLC, what route was Aleph in? The only route where the megido arc was fired was in Law but why would he get blasted along with it? He was already in Eden when Satan blasted the shit outta earth.SMT1: Not specified since he died way before the split, but probably neutralSMT2: ????SMT3: True Demon Ending (ofc)SMT4: Neutral
>>537240213What are some other mythological, esoteric or occult video games you would recommend, /smtg/? Especially if they contain multiple mythologies. >>537267741>>537269964>>537273963>>537457794Not that anon, but I have a CoC playthrough that I want to finish up soon before I do my CoV route. Should I defeat the Demi-Fiend superboss in order to have him unlocked ahead of time? Or should I just save him for the CoV route? I have Masakado, Konohana and Beelzebub, but other than those, what demon builds should I go with in order to cheese Demi-Fiend in a CoC route? Or would I be better off just cheesing demi-fiend with the Qadistu or something?
>>537478430Demi won't carry over into the next run, no guest characters do. If you want to use him in CoC, fight him now.
>>537426415After destroying the imperial encampment we linked up with the rest of the gang before the token nerd decided to do a terrorism. I thought he got framed or some shit but no, he was actually willing to blow up a Mako- I mean Perpetual Generator with President Shinra- i mean Head Councilman Ben-Shoah still inside along with several innocent civies if he didn't get his answers. The only thing he denies is tripping the detonator at that moment which apparently was caused by someone else. Later we got a ship after unintentionally stopping a rich dude from getting catgirlfished by a nekomata disguised as a human. There was also Jack Frost abuse, which was uncalled for.The game continues to be consistently fun and funny. Not even a contest the best Last Bible game so far but it's also probably the second best game in the smt series that I've played up to this point. Only thing that beats it it Megami Tensei 2.
>>537478353Why would fiend go TDE anyway, not very heroic of him
>>537476063nothing lasts forever
>>537259125>censor the panties, and restricted Free CameraYou could see up skirts in vanilla V? Nice...
>Boughted P5R for Switch>Pros: I can play while on bed>Cons: No Raidou itemsIt's not fucking fair, bros
Why not on steam deck?
mara on 'eck
The "I too" is not what's controversial. It's when she chuckles afterwards to tell you it was a long time ago, like to not worry because she won't be competition anymore. But she knows she is. She knows she will be. She's evil.
>>537461172I'd buy a Mermaid one.
>>537487478Only Tao's pantsu got censored in VV.But you have to deal with the camera even for those who werent touched.
Man Eater, the little green guy with the spoon from raidou whos name I forget, and SMT2 baphomet are coming in the next demon mod update. As objectively horrendously """"""balanced""""""" as this mod is, I'd be lying if I didn't love it just for being able to see all the rarer demons who they wasted on DX2 in a real game
>>537493762>(Raughs)How old is this interview anyway?
>>537493465pitslut
>>537495202https://blueforestbible.tumblr.com/tagged/shin%20megami%20tenseiLooks like the book it was in released in 2007
>>537490863I'm glad to be borrowing VV from a friend instead of buying it
when's debisama
>>537504148ded
This place is dead and boring.
>>537506047
>>537240213I want them back bros…
>>537488503She doesn't see herself as competition because she has no idea who the main character is or that he is Aogami's knowledge. If you return to the quest without Tsukiyomi she doesn't recognize you and doesn't have any dialogue of the sort.
>>537442451I like Shido.>Knows the Phantom Thieves are in his head>Takes medicine to induce a heart attack and try to kill them by temporarily killing himself
is /smtg/ just filled with bots or ESLs? Some of these posts make no sense.
Cyber Botposter
>>537510921>Aogami purposely hides from herYou just know.
>>537486980Do I even want to know what this autistic shit is>>537487618Gay.
>>537515117Fuck off retard
>>537510921She doesn't need that information or to even know blue bino is the same person. You know that right? Demons can just tell how a human feels if the feeling is strong enough. Magatsuhi is human emotion. He separated from Koshimizu right in front of her so there was no Nahobino shit blocking the way. In previous games you would always bump into some demon or human NPC that would be able to just tell things about a protag just by looking at them and they wouldn't even explain how sometimes. At least this has a feasible explanation.
>>537512029Dunno but you should reply to posts randomly saying "this is what I was talking about last thread" to force this narrative
>>537516289this is what im talking about
>>537516440This is what I was talking about
>>537515184Go suck your boyfriend's dick.
>>537516771Stop embarrassing yourself.
>>537517696My mental illness prevents me from feeling shame. Sorry, bro.
Can I fuse elemental anon with a different anon for a new demon?
>>537519804yes, that different anon will be ranked up so choose wisely
>>537493465>SMT2 baphometI had to look it up because I still haven't played SMT2 and while I appreciate the novelty, that Baphomet looks like fucking shit.
>>537493465>>537523632
>>537524270Need art of ALL SMT Heroines wearing this attire.
>>537524687what is the green stuff covering his sword?
>>537528549His GF's cum.
For you, RONDébro
I wish SMT games had significantly more route deviation. I get WHY they do it but having each playthrough essentially be the same except for the last 5-10% is so shitty. I think it mostly works for 3 because again story is kinda minimalistic. 1 you have that neat section where you can visit chaos hero or law hero first, 2 has fucking nothing lol. 4 has that neat little "both things happened at once, (although cannonically flynn joins with jonathan), 5 is just actual LMFAO especially in CoV where my first playthrough I was so confused that I was on the "law route" even though I picked mostly jerk answers then it's only the last 5% where yoko comes outta nowhere and you join her.
>>537533585Nice, thanks. I like how you used picrel as the reference
>>537524687>>537535423why do ronder characers look so derpy
>>537535846shit taste
>>537535423Ofc I used that image, her ass is divine
>blitz through hikawa and chiaki boss fight during my freedom run >going for TDE this time>hikawa wipes me multiple times with his stupid 1hp -> megidoloan or whatever combo. >chiaki gets her mobs out and it's a drawn out fucking fight because of dekaja/dekunda/mediaharanwhat the fuck, are the bosses buffed for TDE or something?
this may sound stupid but you don't really save a clear data when you play through SMT2 and SMT IF. so how the hell does it know when you're in ng+?
nobody talks about the cutie who runs the ashura-kai authorized shops
>>537539664she gets completely mogged by the black market chad
>>537539820Oh, a hunter...
If you chose to side with a reason will you not get certain that you would get if you went the neutral route in SMT 3 (aside from the very end)
>>537538257>beat lucifer >turns out chronicle lucifer was the hardest version of him and I gutted myself by getting dante instead....wow that sucked. he was the easiest final boss out of all the SMT games. (not counting 1 because 1 final boss is embarrassing). >>537541446what
>>537541548I don’t get what’s so confusing with what I said, apparently Tao has a character arc that’s relevant to the Freedom ending. If I sided with Hikawa, Isamu or Chiaki would I miss those scenes with her? How difference is the pre-ending Freedom route to the reasons
>>537541795>how differenceOh wow, my typo had to make me look like an ESL especially after someone was confused with interpreting a post I made
>>537541795......WHAT?
>>537541548Oh nevermind, I skipped the word ‘scenes’ lmao
>>537542014>TaoSorry, I mixed the name with pic-related
>>537542409Tao's spicy taco ...
>>537541446>>537541795this dude speaking another language
>>537542606He's speaking the language of the gods.
>>537539070for if... you have to have a save right before the final boss
>>537543118alright so how does it detect the ng+ or if you completed the boss then? or does it just detect any save at the final dungeon
Atlus enhanced ports are so weird. I mean they're "somewhat" the same game so it's kinda whatever and you can ignore the "bonus content" but it's also right there and fucks with pacing and coherence. Nevermind the graphical changes too....
>>537543786>how does the game detecti'm not sure how that all works. but the "ng+" content becomes available when you have a save before the final boss of any route.that's all that i can tell you.
>>537544853........but that's what im freaking asking
>>537542493>Yoko's love for spicy foodOH NO
>>537544917my bad. i thought you were asking how to access the ng+ content. i have to read posts more carefully...
Is Maken X an SMT game? Asking because I want to fuck Kei.
>>537545228I also want to fuck kei :)
>newborn or rebornAHHHH I CANT FUCKING DECIDE. On one hand, I'm marathoning all the SMT games so I kinda wanna do newborn but at the same time, newborn isn't exactly "newborn" and I'm still carrying over some stuff and I still want to beat demifiend but in this playthrough. But I don't want to lose the exclusive miracles and regrind for everything to beat his ass.... but I want a more authentic experience to feel how SMT was but then again it still wouldn't be authentic if I'm carrying over a save but fuck man I don't want to start from scratch. I wanna eventually get all endings on one saves.I'll probably go back to finish IF before I start on V again but fuck I don't know what to pick!!! If I do newborn I might try an evasion build with the new tsukiyomi skills but even online there's not much information about it and if it's ass and I'm delegated to a support fucking build for my demons to kill demifiend, that's going to be so cheeks compared to murakumo spam
>>537545228>I want to fuck Keioh nononono
>>537545358>The SMT games with hotter/unique character designs are also the unknown, untranslated and unloved ones in the doujin scene.i think i leveled up with a magatama and got cursed
>>537545228>>537545358Are there any more characters named Kei I should know about!?
>>537545651
>>537545228Yes. Dreamcast is the best overall while PS2 has many improvements but new problems introduced. The game is so short you can get all of the endings in each version in less than a week if you have the time. Most routes are 1-3 hours long with the true route being around 4-5 hours long.
>>537545861>new problemsother than "lol third party camera issues" that was plaguing every friggin ps2 game, what are some other issues mr baroque man
>>537545228no but people talk about it here anyway because it's adjacent enough I guess
is catherine an SMT game?
>>537546202Yes, it has a tranny in it
>>537545861How do I unlock the guy imprisoned in the London tower?
>>537545939The UI looks worse and is slower. The points system compared to ranks makes the true route a bitch. There are forced switches which costs Psi points to switch there and back, with the higher the level you get a person the less the cost is. Either way it's a forced 2k at the min if you grind with a character that got nerfed to make them at 100% to unlock their ranged attack, if not than it's another 2-3k. Another is the ranged attacks being locked behind 100% leveling up in the PS2 version, where the Dreamcast has no BS outside ranged attacks costing HP. It makes ranged attacks much better to use with real risk behind them.>>537546454Get a quest from one of the blademasters, go to instbul and brainjack. Then get the black guy and go to the london tower to jump from him to the guy and then back to the black guy. this unlocks the Mafia level who then you brainjack into him to unlock the church boss fight.
>>537544917i can make an educated guess that it has to do with the ram and event flags. pretty much every event has some kind of flag tied to it to make it work that once completed is stored in the ram. i can assume "ng+" events can only be accessed with certain flags set like "have a save after beating the boss before the final one."but i don't know what specifically sets off ng+ or if multiple flags are involved.in if... there's also a flag tied to progressing at the beginning that you can miss that softlocks you.if you somehow save sato before talking to ryuichi and akiko in the storage room, you can't talk to astral body hazama because talking to ryuichi and akiko sets a flag necessary for making astral body hazama appear but they're gonele after saving sato.
>>537546202no but it has a few SMT-ish elements
So I love majin tensei 2. I think its underrated in fact. But is the dark law ending of that game not the worst most insulting ending in the entire franchise? Why did they make an ending that was essentially a total waste For those who haven't played it, the dark law ending basically has you being explicitly told you made the wrong choice, and suddenly it transitions into you meeting the cast at the beginning of the game again with the route you just played being reframed as "a vision" that you need to avoid, and then it ends Whylol
Reminder that we're in the worst era of SMT>Two awful remasters that looks worse than their PS2 counterparts>Two mainline entries that do nothing but dicksuck Nocturne and it's development history is a complete mystery >Said mainline entries introduced the tumblr crowd and LGBT+ crowd into the fandom >Now we have to wait 6-8 years for a new mainline entry since the current development team are either working on a non-SMT title or assisting on some other project >Meanwhile all the merchandise is lackluster and too expensive thanks to Atlus absurd shipping costs + tariffs
>>537546935>"have a save after beating the boss before the final one."but how does that work if it's just "The End" and you have to restart your snes.
>>537547272andras if he real
She's so freaking cute guys.
>>537547415i don't know... i'm not sure about the actual flags. i gave a guess. if i find out how it specifically works i'll post it here.but it would have something to do with flags you can only set at the end of the game by doing certain events.
>>537547272i'm excited for p4r
>>537547738>I'm excited for a demaster of the game that set Atlus down this dark path
>>537547862yes. smt4+4A remaster when
>>537547738I can't believe they're so intent on not making persona fucking 6 that they instead opted for the persona output to be two back to back remakes. I know people will claim its an unnecessarily board and reductive stroke to paint, but I don't care. I'm done with remakes. The reaction people have when they hear a new soulslike game getting announced is how I feel when I hear of a remake at this point. Make new fucking games.
>>537547250I think they made the other endings first and realized they needed something for Dark Law, but also a way to punish you for going for it since it's a retarded choice
>>537547862Persona 4 really was the seed of Atlus’ downfall but you can see a complete gear shift straight after the persona dancing games came out
>>537548292meh, they're not entitled to make us shit lolyou guys acting like you're actual shareholders like lol
>>537548378I GUESS THEY AREN'T ENTITLED TO OUR MONEY THEN HAHA XD FUCK YOU
>>537548378You've been spiritually compromised by the corporation when you started busting out "entitled" in game discussion
>>537548516Yes if atlus dies, it dies.
>>537547527How do you feel that she changes how she interacts on you based on your choices?
>>537547272Raidou remaster is good though.
>>537547272I think some of the merch with the vinyals are good since the default asking price is what you pay for it. ShopAtlus was such a stupid mistake with how it never had half of the Japanese merch and everything had 20-30 USD shipping added to every purchase even when in the US or Europe.
Don't worry, SMT6 will be announced at the september nintendo direct :)
>>537550195VV DLC SOON
>>537547415picrel has examples of how everything sets a flag upon viewing/completing in if... for the sfc. for some flags the game checks constantly to see if they're set.looking at:>2# = game clear (copied from $701813 on new game)i assume after certain flags are set the game always reads from a certain ram address when selecting new gave and that ram address triggers the "ng+" content.but again, this is a guess. and if you're curious, i got the ram map from romhacking.net.
What does it mean?>>537548830Does she? I've only been saying Yes to everything because I'm a doormat.
>>537550870it's the owl of athena
Nazi butt.>>537551005wow
>>537551412We need more sexualised nazis in smt. Theres a comment in some P2 artbook that the Maschinen Kommando enemy type in P2 are female soldiers
>>537550870If you go against her wishes, she gets more sick and eventually tells you to kill yourself.
>>537547527Eh, I think Bahlinka's cuter.
Brainjack the loli?>>537553292>more sickShe's been coughing a lot already. I guess she does that regardless and her condition only worsens?
>>537553563Her condition worsens over time, but gets extreme if you rebel and fight the blademasters.
>>537553563Can you read moon or are you playing the jp version because it's uncensored?
SMT but you can win using charisma.
Does anything funny happen if I kill the guy who made the rock virus with his own daughter?>>537553676>but gets extremeOh ok thank goodness. I don't want Kei to suffer more than she has to.>>537553861>Can you read moonYeah, and also because I'm sure the English voice acting is dreadful. What's censored in the EN version? I didn't know it was censored at all but I'm not surprised.
>>537554108if it was a CRPG you could make YHVH kill himself by using facts and logic
>>537554443Arcanuim was a based game.
>>537538257TDE buffs them a bit via stat increases so they’re damage sponges
>>537554443How many games let you do something like this? I can only think of Mass Effect 1 and Planescape: Torment
>>537554987Fallout 1
>take over loli>frail body>no special attacks>no combos>kill own father10/10 game
>>537554368>What's censored in the EN version?All the swastikas were changed to a japanese kanji (I think it's a kanji), the kamikaze dogs were changed into robots and Hakke Youthful had the muslim moon on his mask removed. Other than that, some stages had their names changed, the Taj Mahal became Shaja's Palace, the Vatican is the Joan of Arc museum, etv.
>>537554108Is this what happens if you beg for money?
>>537557487Yeah
>>537554108>when you convince trooncifer to join the 41%
>>537554443If it was a crpg I would be able to rock the final boss with nothing but a dog, a half wit suicidal Moh Shuvuu, and one gun toting gal
Mothia
>>537240213Enochian in SMT when? (Aside from Chronozon)
>>537559504I like how the angels in Bayonetta speak it
>>537559382Oh yeah, this entire info section where you can read about the game's characters was removed in the EN version, guess they didn't wanna bother and translate all that.
>>537559971WHATThat's ridiculous! Everything else you mentioned that's been censored has been done before so it's not too surprising but complete removal of the background information is like removing half the game!I wouldn't understand any of this shit if I couldn't read about what Image are or Tensonryuusei or the Hakke or who did what and why.It's really fun encountering a new enemy then learning about why they exist. Like how the Don doesn't like his Moth underlings' strange fixation on the old mafia archetype with their Tommy guns and how they're ground up and put into beer to poison people.
>>537560706Tell me about it man, at the very least some of the info is on the wiki, but also, it's the wiki so you can't take anything there for granted. For what it's worth they kept it for the PS2 remake but that also has it's own issues.
>>537561309Cool image, dude.Apparently the PS2 one makes the game 3rd person because Japs are weak to motion? Kind of kills the atmosphere.
