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Previous: >>537037463

Oncoming train edition

>Story trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ULiusPxQG4

>Character banner

[8/21-9/22] Yumi Shiina 5*, Motoha Arai 4*, Tomoko Noge 4*, Kiyoshi Kurotani 4*

[8/4-9/4] Makoto Niijima 5*,
Chizuko Nagao 4*, Shun Kano
4*, Kayo Tomiyama 4*

>Weapon banner

[8/21-9/22] Moonlit Feather (Yumi Shiina-exclusive), Starrynight Soothsayer (Yumi Shiina-exclusive), Crime and Punishment (Motoha Arai-exclusive), Shadow Crowns (Tomoko Noge-exclusive), Death Stinger (Kiyoshi Kurotani-exclusive)

[8/4-9/4] Nuclear Finisher 5*(Makoto Niijima-exclusive), Omega Knuckle (Makoto Ninjima-exclusive) 4*, Gravitational Force (Chizuko Nagao-exclusive) 4*, Demon's Bite (Shun Kano-exclusive) 4*, Emerald Charmer 4* (Kayo Tomiyama-exclusive)

>Current events
[lasts 30 days after account creation] Take Your Heart
[8/21-9/4] Trial of Thorns
[8/21-9/4] Spin to Win Raffle
[8/27-9/4] Astounding Revelations

>Guides and resources
Character building:
lufel.net/?lang=kr
lufel.net/?lang=en
Synergy Guide: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gbV0OY_6K579nxUa5FuDcOkbxDc1VJD5ejjq3dkuELs
Banner schedule: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Isx1vTD2ccZrdmtwiNpeJlIYkpExVdzOlbODTLoScoo

>Chat Emoji PNGs
https://mega.nz/folder/zZUkSRID#UHs3AK6fB-rnNy8S3mWKgw

>Guilds (have /vg/ in your profile if you request to join)
Netori - 100001547
Tsumi - 100013554
Motoha Slammers - 100016392
Fun Island - 100030397
Motoha Lovers - 100032970
Waifu Slammer - 100040044
Thanks, Doc! - 100035622
Four Chins - 100055671

General Chat Channel #624
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>>537324454
Reminder to pull for A1 Chord and prefarm Prosperity cards or you're bricked
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>>537324454
He can slam her out of the way!
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TOMOKO NOOOOOOOOO WATCH OUT
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>>537322871
>Your ann build is garbage
Thanks. I accept suggestions.
Now that I'm done with the event I could start to farm cards more generally, so replacing the purples with goldens is the obvious first step.
What else should I focus on?
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>>537324597
In case one was on the fence about whether or not metafags are unhinged insecure schizo pieces of shit, right?
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Motoha…
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>>537324454
Tomoko would not survive a second in India...
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>>537324927
fpbp
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Kumi choking you during sex.
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>>537325032
no woman would
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>>537326115
not a fan of the ruler
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>>537326115
It's crazy how much of a downgrade this is.
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>>537326242
afraid you wont even reach the 5 cm mark kiddo?
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>>537326601
It's used for penis inspection day?
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>>537326242
You are weak and your bloodline ending with you is just.
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i lost my f2p card bros...i had to paypiggy to get makoto
literally took all 160 rolls and i burnt out at 140
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>>537326717
please tell me you at least took advantage of the google play 20% off? Google play is cheaper than steam/ios by default and it's got a discount on top
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>>537324030
Motoha Lovers has 5 open slots and an A6 Makoto you can borrow. I believe Tsumi and Motoha Slammers have more competetive players
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>>537326717
based
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>>537326601
she said 7 cm is enough (cute, even)
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>>537326115
>>537326308
Kumi? More like Coomy
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>>537327117
I want to coomy in Kumi
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If I fail the eating contest event for being gutsless, do I still get the guts increase from the activity, or is that just for winners?
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>>537326920
i did not know about that, but i wont beat myself up over not saving five dollars
theres nothing else in this game i'd want to spend money on anyway so this is a one-time expense
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>>537326920
That's not supported in my region, so if I want to make use of it I'll have to use a vpn or something. Is JP a cheaper region?
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>>537328085
Well fair enough. I usually just go for monthlies but I bought 2 monthlies because they're on discount and they only stack twice plus the phantom pass
>>537328178
I'm not sure your account would transfer between regions because JP seem to be on their own server
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>>537326242
actually its a yard stick
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>>537329675
i can't believe koom is a burger
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just hit 70, what personas should I fuse
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>>537330635
me
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>>537330635
farm dionysus, fuse dominion and >>537330686
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>>537330635
Fuse:
>Thor before you get the copy from the Lufel Plan
>Dominion for attack buffs & Merope Synergy level 20
>Alice if you run Joker team
Farm
>Dionysus, and then farm the persona/seals that give him Rebellion
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>>537331175
>Dionysus, and then farm the persona/seals that give him Rebellion
i did this thirty minutes ago (it's dakini) and it was annoying as fuck. had to use six tokens or so.
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>>537331175
>then farm the persona/seals that give him Rebellion
Which ones are those?
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>>537331679
dakini. it also gives agility master III which is good because IV is a pain in the ass to get.
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>>537331175
What even do you get from fusing Norn that you could possibly want him to have? I looked at both fusion materials and nothing they have seems worthwhile.
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>>537331996
Cool, thanks
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>>537331424
Six is good as fuck rng as far as I'm concerned, I still don't have rebellion on my dio after dumping like 3 days worth of stamina on dakini farming. Shit's tilting the fuck outta me
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>>537332067
>>537331175
Meant Thor, not Norn, but you get the drift
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>>537330635
quetzalcoatl to max
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>>537330464
HE
IS
SIXTEEN
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when are we getting more nuke personas, I don't want to buy Bishamonten
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>>537332772
out
of
ten
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>>537332854
bishamonten is the only nuke attack persona we are getting (for now at least)
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>>537332772
Yeah, sixteen womb shots in.
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>>537332067
>>537332442
Having not spent time/seals stacking premium skills on Thor, I use the Resist Boost III from the Surt fuse and Electric Reduction III from the Raja Naga fuse. He's a functional/good electric sweeper, and my foresight warns me that Chord release may just so happen to coincide with SOS/Companio bosses with Elec weakness, so having a levelled Elec Sweeper on Wonder probably wouldn't be remiss. And even if you don't use the skills now, its the same number of seals to get him to Overclock 2 or 3 before you get the freebie, versus getting him to Overclock 2 or 3 after the freebie, and doing it after loses all the fuse skills, even if you aren't going to use them. That's just leaving free skill options on the table.
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Would Motoha collect labubus?
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>>537332772
And?

>>537332067
Maybe some of the passives are alright. Agilaio is whatever.
I hope Thor is an ingredient in a future fusion so I'll hold the seal.
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>>537334781
god i hope not
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>>537334781
Motoha no, Tomoko yes
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>>537334851
Thor doesn't even take that much to fuse desu, at least not compared to other tier 7 personas
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What cards do I want on leo? the guides say stick propserity on the navs but also on leo? i'm assuming the 4 set doesn't stack
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>>537335820
power
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>>537334781
she collects shichi-kun stuff
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If Ann is so good why does she need to go to A2 to be usable?
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>>537335820
The 4pc doesn't stack and is 99.99% of the time worthless.
But buffers also lack good sets.
So... just slap some of the free Power cards on them and wait for a good set to come out instead of wasting resources that you can be using during this event to farm good cards for your main carries.
You could also stop using Leo too.
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>>537336086
because she's one of the 5 stars that spooks you when you lose a 50 50 so eventually you'll A6 her anyway
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I'm convinced this nigga is just trolling trying to get new players to accidentally brick their accounts
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>>537336086
She doesn't.
Her A2 is just good to hae and A2 Ann is easy enough to chase because you can just reroll to get a few copies on the beginner banner when you just start to play and shit.
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>>537338020
>a few copies on the beginner banner
>a few
How does that work?
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>>537336482
fr fr on god bro, no cap
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>>537338303
Not him but I rerolled until I got Joker + 2 Anns and then you get Cognitions from the Plans on top of that, I'm A3 Ann with only ~40 total pulls on Limited banners
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>>537338462
Let me guess. You're going le all in on le Chord?!?!?!?
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>>537338462
Holy shit. That's some dedication. You earned those.
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>a4 skull
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>>537334851
is this a girl
please say it is
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>>537339650
It's real life Yui
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>>537339650
That’s Yui’s multiple personality disorder host
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>>537339979
>she's an actual unironic schizo
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>>537339979
I can save her.
God damn, I love Yui so much.
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Yui is great. Unlike Tomoko, I wish she'd get hit by a bus or something
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>>537220632
>fire emblem dead
LOL
Can't believe shitposters actually believe this
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>>537344773
Ignoring the obvious intent of your post (which you could argue is all that matters and therefore what I'm about to type doesn't matter), this reads like you wish Yui would get hit by a bus or something.
>Unlike [A], [B]
Implies that [B] does not apply to [A].
Your statement would make sense in spoken context, but it should be written with punction more like:
>Yui is great, unlike Tomoko. I wish she'd get hit by a bus or something.
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>>537345397
Retard
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>>537339650
We'll need to wait a bit in CN to see if Musubi is romanceable the 2nd time around but judging from how they (mis)handled Kumi, optimism is foolish.
I made my choice. CN had like 15 patches to present a challenger, and it did not, and I'm both not going to wait around but I also just don't like asspull late romances in series anyway.
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>>537350683
kek. your account is bricked
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>>537334851
>>537339979

I GOT REALLY INTO THIS ADULT WOMAN EVEN THOUGH I HAVEN'T GOTTEN HER SCENE YET

and made some lewds too
https://files.catbox.moe/4daz64.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/lso8d7.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/wd3slz.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/z469o8.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/tl2nej.mp4
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Bros... what would you do in my position:
>f2p
>40 pulls until I get a guaranteed Queen
>180 pulls worth of gems remaining
>want Chord
>don't care about Summer characters coming after Chord
Should I go for Makoto and potentially be in a 3k gem deficit for guaranteed Chord?
I'll be stuck with Queen's Soul Calibur 4* weapon until her rerun, unless I get super lucky and get it in 5 pulls.
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>>537353402
based slopanon
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>>537353402
>no giant bush
Not canon
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>>537353402
>no giant bush
Thank god for decent taste
I hate hair and smell fags
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>>537353402
>Shaved
not my online girlfriend
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>>537353591
The patch Chord is coming with is giving out 20 tickets from a log in bonus plus however many gems it'll drop (probably a lot). That being said A1 Makoto isn't really that important so honestly I wouldn't bother as a f2p. Just get your guaranteed Chord in 40 and enjoy your pile of gemmies imo.
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>>537354586
>giving out 20 tickets from a log in bonus
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>>537354586
>A1
It would be my A0; haven't pulled her yet since I went A1 on Fox.
I'm sitting at 60/80 on the premium banner now... just 20 pulls away from Makoto.
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>>537354586
it's not A1 makoto, it's A0, read again.
>>537353591
yeah, go for it.
when chord comes out there's going to be a big influx of resources, some of which are the automatic stuff that the other guy mentioned, but also all the gems you can get from new sectoins of mementos } a chunk of the third palace. You're absolutely going to be able to get both of them, and since you don't give a fuck about the summer units you're absolutely fine to do so.
Makoto is a substantially powerful unit, even at A0 (and you'll probably pick up some Vino copies along the way to the likely hard pity at 80 - which helps her too). She's a good unit to have in your toolbox
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>>537354946
Thanks, bro. I'll go for it.
You're right about picking up some Vino -- I think mine is A3 now; got an A6 Soi and a pretty jacked Okyann as well.
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>>537354887
Oh yeah, pull for her then. Great unit, and you'll have plenty for Chord.
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the 20% off sale is their last milking before they announce eos
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All right, it took 150 pulls to get Makoto; saved myself 1500 gems there, but then I blew 1k gems on 10 weapon pulls to get her 4*. No resources to level her up (._. )
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>>537356260
moron
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>>537356302
:(
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>>537356723
Riddle...
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>>537357870
I got lucky and I do plan to level her at some point. My current thoughts about leveling priority (pending future bosses, etc.)
Vino > Makoto > Rin > Sepia > Riddle > Moko > Key
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>>537353402
wawa weewa
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when do we get summer motoha
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>>537361590
I assume 2.0 patch is in a few days?
So from then til the next patch?
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>>537361590
Estimated to be the 3rd week of October.
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>>537362359
You sure about that?
We are sitting on the filler of filler patches, and I thought they wanted to at least cram "summer" into September.
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>>537362865
5* Mont right after Futaba. Fuck. I should have saved my gems.
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>>537362865
>release every P5 character
>release only 3 P3
>will probably start releasing P4 when remake come out and forget about P3
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>>537363581
Speak for yourself. There's not a single P4 character im rolling for since it has the worst cast
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>>537363736
I would roll for Marie, but alas, she is not a party member.
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>>537363736
It's not really an A > B >C kind of deal
there good and more rough characters in each set.
Like I probably wouldn't roll for Yosuke, but Kanji's cool. And I wouldn't roll for Haru if she wasn't almost gameplay-mandated
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>>537363581
I'm sorry, but you have the mentality of a baby who doesn't understand object permanence yet. I don't know what conjured you to think that they're only doing 3 characters. The P3 collab will continue after the next story update
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Please don't be rude. We're all here because we enjoy the game. Thank you. :)
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>>537366631
Based
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>>537362865
>filler of filler
The patch right after Summer Moko just adds Miyu's confidant and reruns 2 characters lmao if they have any brain cells they'll condense that patch into another patch because holy shit is that a dead two weeks
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>>537368085
>patch right after Summer Moko
2.2? Won't Messa be new?
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>>537368394
I'm talking about 2.1.3 https://en.namu.wiki/w/%ED%8E%98%EB%A5%B4%EC%86%8C%EB%82%98%205:%20%EB%8D%94%20%ED%8C%AC%ED%85%80%20X/%EC%97%85%EB%8D%B0%EC%9D%B4%ED%8A%B8%20%EB%82%B4%EC%97%AD#s-3.3.6
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>>537369035
Thank you. It feels like the reruns are coming up pretty quick; I bet I'll have to wait for third or fourth prints before I can afford to pull for those I missed.
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>>537369853
Sometimes they do rerun selectors where there's a ton of units rerunning and you can roll for up to 3 different ones. They're treated as 3 different banners.
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>>537362359
I don't know about that. They've been pretty consistent about dropping a character every two weeks and summer motoha is the first character up after 2.0. So logically we'll be getting her mid-september
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>Almighty characters count as a sonata for ALL types
kek I have 3 sonata's active although it's kind of useless
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>>537370336
They will need to slow down at some point but I feel like that'd probably be 3.x and let 4.x summer line up with next summer.
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>>537372320
Yeah, when they've caught up. No reason to stop until then
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>>537372320
I don't think they give a fuck about lining things up outside of reaching parity
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Have they shown any indication that Chinese New Year will be a regular event with a new idol? I'd like to see more girls in sexy chinese dresses but Rin is the obvious choice and she's already got one so I wonder who they'd choose if they were going to
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>>537372743
Haruna, complete with foot binding
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>>537373637
>foot binding
That's disgusting also the devs are too gay to give Haruna a sexy outfit. At most there might be a swimsuit some day but I highly doubt it
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chord? more like GAYord.
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>>537374448
>chord yuri
hot
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>>537374705
>yuricuck
faggot
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How bricked is my account if I waste stamina/resources levelling up Yuki even though I don't have Fox? I just love flail knight.
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Chord? More like DISchord.
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>>537376224
>How bricked is my account if I brick my account?
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>>537376224
if you like a character then it doest really matter how meta or good they are imo, having funs the most important thing
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i'm going insane, if i have to go through four fucking prompts to make the same strawberry crepe again i don't think i can be held responsible for what i'll do
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>>537379335
Don't be ungrateful. It's free points
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>>537376224
you'll be fine anon.
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Reminder not to pull for R1 instantly. We'll be getting an event with a weapon/dupe, so there's a chance we can pick Chord's
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>>537379804
I need the Nurse weapon and dupe bro. Should be for "standard" only anyways. Giving away dupes/weapons for limiteds for free... heh

If there's an event like that, it's what they said about the Nurse weapon/dupe we can't get from the plan.
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>no Katayama romance
>Akihiko gets her as his dedicated support slut
it's over...
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>>537379804
there is NO way they are giving us a chord dupe of any kind, do not get your hopes up
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>>537380564
in KR there's an item that allows you to dupe ANY weapon. We might get that.
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>>537380564
It specifically says forge instead of obtain like in the other parts of the letter, where another event lets you obtain a weapon. And the only "forge" in p5x is reforging a weapon.
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>>537381895
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okay somebody explain how i beat the sleep thoth in mementos
i have to take a turn off between attacks to get SP back, and it heals from the sleep between my on turns to about the same level as my damage
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>>537382807
some people recommended a fire team and having burn do the damage
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>>537380417
Akihiko already gets to play with Mitsuru's fat milkers. He doesn't need another pair.
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Version 4.4.1 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F2WNAbYDI0
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>>537384149
the minigame looks cute. i'll look forward to playing it in a year and a half
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Gee Musubi, why do you get two synergies?
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>>537361590
Right after Chord, so probably on the 2nd half of September.
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>>537382807
>>537383559
What that Anon said.
Fire DoT works great, just like it does in a lot of other content.
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>>537384149
https://youtu.be/5F2WNAbYDI0?t=156
>Her tits have jiggle physics
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>>537384149
Cute.
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>>537326920
It’s cheaper on LDShop
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>>537385079
missed chance for buruma motoha skin.....
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hello perfect world please give new psy dps???
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>>537388997
You WILL use 5head and you WILL like it.
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>>537388997
Best I can do is elephant poop enjoyer. Sorry.
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5 people are going to roll Messa.
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>>537363736
I would roll for Narukami simply because he's my favorite MC. Guy is just super interesting.
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>>537379804
>so there's a chance we can pick Chord's
LOL
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>>537379804
it's r0 you fucking idiot
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>>537390008
>...from elephant dung.
>wonder: you mean... bramphy ookie dookie?!
fucking idiot
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>>537393365
>wonder
anon… maybe you don't have the grounds to be calling other people idiots…
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I know it would never happen but getting Tatsuya would be kino
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>>537392732
he's talking about a dupe, you fucking idiot
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no one ever asks for p1 reps...
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>>537387253
Looks like a massive scam and probably bannable
>requires giving your password to some random guy
kek
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>>537394596
kill yourself
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>>537394270
>it would never happen
The chances are higher than zero. Picrel.

>>537394648
I don't really post about it, but I'm absolutely down for Naoya, Maki, Mark, best boy Nanjo and best girl Elly.
The chances for either collab to happen are extremely low though, so I keep my expectations in check.
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>>537395887
>its not impossible but almost because 3d models of the older persona characters dont exist so we cant reuse them
that sounds like bullshit, im that case they shouldnt be able to make and animate the models for the OC donut steels since they dont even exist
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>>537390689
Plague doctors are cool so I will roll for him. Hopefully he gets some new buffs to compensate for the game hating him specifically
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>>537395887
They're not gonna make 3d models from scratch for legacy characters that won't sell. OCs to P5X will unironically do better every time sales wise.
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>>537396358
What he means is they'd rather make OCs than rehash old shit which is based. The only reason we get crossovers is to save the dev team time and resources
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>>537396698
Nigger the existing characters are the main source of money for the game. Nobody is going to play the Persona 5 gacha spinoff if Joker and Queen aren't in it.
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>>537396358
>>that sounds like bullshit it's not thoughever.
>P1 and P2, as you know, are not 3D games
That's true.
>Unlike P3, P4 and P5 where we can prepare collabs based on existing 3D models.
That's also true.
>with these titles there are many assets we'd have to create from scratch
That's true as well.

Nowhere do they say it's impossible or hard, it's just that P1 and/or P2 collabs would take more work than P3/P4/P5 collabs, which is 100% true.

>im that case they shouldnt be able to make and animate the models for the OC donut steels since they dont even exist
They're talking about collabs in that paragraph Anon.
Please read more carefully.
Doing a collab with a game that is already available in 3D and they can port over assets from is definitely easier than doing a collab with decades old 2D games they'd have to make new 3D assets of from scratch.
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This also means Kotone (the irrelevant one nobody cares about) will never make it in the game either xD
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>>537396472
>They're not gonna make 3d models from scratch for legacy characters that won't sell.
They said right there that they're up for it if they receive support and interest from the series' fans.
The amount of support that would enable them to do the collabs would imply there's a certain amount of money to be made.
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>>537397293
Yeah and nobody cares about P1 and P2. So the support isn't there.
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>>537397194
Tbf that's something anyone could have seen coming.
The P3 collab is not a general collab, it's specifically a P3R collab, and she's not present in P3R in any form or capacity so.
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>>537396913
Any source for the claim or are you pulling it out of your ass? Besides P5R models already existed and P3-5 are way more popular than P1 or 2
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>>537397194
>irrelevant one nobody cares about
But tomoko is already in the game
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>>537398185
We love Tomoko here and the Tomoko tsundere always has her on his mind too!
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You really think for a PR statement they're gonna say: "Yeah we hear you. We're probably not gonna add older Persona characters because it doesn't make business sense".
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>>537390689
Meesa no roll on Messa.
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>>537398185
This, everyone here and in the world hates tomohoe.
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need playable shota desu senpai
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>>537398768
Messa is a funny case, because I feel like his max dupe version is THE choice if you just want 1. Assassin who deals very good ST damage but also good enough AOE damage.

But.. it's a guy, so who'd ever do that. Even if it sucks a lot more I'd rather max dupe a girl I like..
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>>537404536
I feel regret for not rolling on Yusuke specifically because of the frost portion of Velvet Trials.
Unless they add a physical velvet trial later, I'm going to have zero regrets skipping messyboi
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>>537405838
You can clear with Mont and Soyy
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>>537405838
yusuke is extremely comfy to use and i don't regret rolling for him at all.
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>regretting not rolling males
Faggot general
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>537409110
You have homosexuality living rent-free in your head.
There's no one gayer than you here.
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>>537404536
i don't mind pulling for guys (because im not an insecure literal faggot) but pulling for messa is such a waste considering the units we're getting after him are both good and cute. it's a shame, they should've made him standard banner
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I only roll for females because females are hot. Simple as
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>>537409672
Just pulling and max dupes are quite a difference though.
I have pulled guys myself in gacha, but max dupes? That will never happen.

I do like my Yusuke though. I haven't dared trying elec resonance with BUI on difficulty 6, but ice and nuke were no issue. The amount of damage enemies and up dealing is insane. Even Yusuke with 1 billion defense got hit for over 9000 damage once. (not a meme) His shield bar didn't even move.
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>>537385079
yes? as do the other girls?
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>>537404536
> Assassin who deals very good ST damage but also good enough AOE damage.
Makoto does that tho
Her S1 soes a chunk and the status effects it applies are super useful too
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>>537397194
A6R5
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japan already loves riko
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>>537412459
The point is, that's a max dupe char. Your Makoto wouldn't even deal half the aoe damage with her skill 1, and he'd easily outdamage her in single target as well WHILE having the AOE automatically.

It's something silly like 500% ATK main-target and 200% on all others, and although you can't crit most of it, you get a big dmg bonus. Aside of having a 200% ATK dot on the enemy (and in case it works the true max HP based damage)
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>mfw I enter the Cu Chulainn metro fight with full grim set Ryuji
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>>537415610
>Metro Kohryu vs Grim set Makoto
>The almighty followup bugs out and he just vanishes with his healthbar still at 50%
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>>537416369
This shit is still happening? Had it happen early on with the thoths in mementos, then again with both kaneshiro's piggytron event and miyazawa's weekly
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>>537408771
Thanks for the reminder Anon.
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https://files.catbox.moe/i1gt76.mp4
so cute
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Should I really not pull her weapon? It seems to me I have enough for chord+wep gauranteed.
Isn't it only 7k-14k per weapon? 50/50 is gauranteed for me in 60 pulls. But everyone here told me not to.
From what I can tell, by the time Cord's banner end I should have like 300 pulls on characters... more on weapons.
Or is it that much better to get more characters without worrying about weapons?
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>>537415320
Japan loves Makoto types
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>>537417630
Her weapon is worth it so you don't have to see those ugly Voldo claws.
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>>537417630
You don't need it. Her shill period is already close to over to make way for the summer girls.
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>>537417839
Didn't it get buffed though? The text on it seems extremely strong so I could just kill the stuff she's not shilled for. Her weapon is... up to a 84.2% damage increase plus 30% attack that seems nuts.
My Ryuji and Joker have seem kinda of weak.
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>>537418062
Doesn't mean much when nuke weak enemies will mysteriously vanish in late Sept.
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>>537418147
Yes but like I said, she's been able to destroy enemies that aren't nuke weak.
Whatever I pulled it only cost 40 of em. 4k jewels is like nothing.
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>>537417839
makoto is going to be the best single target attacker for a while still.
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>>537418298
...in a meta that will shift to AOE focus for the upcoming DPS's until we get Violet, who powercreeps her.
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>>537418627
I'm not using Violet.
And I thought Joker was the best AoE.
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>>537417630
Yeah, it's really good. With Makoto + 5 star weapon you will be for a long time.
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What patch does Luce arrive? 4.0? I'm wondering if need to save my selectors for him or just get dupes for Wind instead.
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>>537419325
Last time I posted here near the start I had like 26k jewels after pulling Makoto, and people said it wasn't worth. I wound up just pulling for A1 instead expecting to lose 50/50 so Cord would be guaranteed.
But I really don't see how wep isn't worth. Characters are 12000 jewels pity, but weapons are only 7000, nearly half.

Unless the weapon is as bad as Jokers, it seems it's almost always worth it to go for A0W1.

I also don't even see much point in weaknesses outside of velvet trials. All the other hard content has the enemies be knockdown immune, so if you just pierce resists it makes no fucking difference and if you have some hyper built single target you seem to just beat them all. Only place you lose out is the leaderboards which isn't extra jewels.

>>537419880
You don't belong here if you don't want a fuckable little sister
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>>537419880
But I like Phoebe and Okyann. What does that make me?
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>>537420000
The point of pulling characters at all is for leaderboards. :)
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>>537420309
You have an adult woman fetish
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>>537420393
Na I'm just doing the bare minimum and not giving this shit publisher money. Really the only reason I'm playing is I've been extremely lucky (got ryuuji, ann 3x, joker in my beginner banner plus first 3 pulls, got 2x makoto in under 80 pulls after that, then got 2 weps in under 40 pulls)
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>>537420393
>The point of pulling characters at all is for waifus. :)
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>>537420397
what a sicko
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>>537419880
Ann should be with the other characters who lost relevance a week after their release.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKcy4hLvzgI
>Wondah! we have to go to Junes!
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>>537418945
I will.
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>>537421364
I won't
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>>537422897
2.0 will save p5x
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>>537419714
>What patch does Luce arrive? 4.0?
Yeah.

>I'm wondering if need to save my selectors for him or just get dupes for Wind instead.
I think it depends on your playstyle, but it might be a good idea.
A6 Wind is great, but it might take a while to get there, and by the time Luce himself comes out we'll have Futaba and her as our navis. Depending how long it takes to get there we might even have Phoebe on the standard banner by that point, so the chances you'll still be using Wind are slim.
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>>537419714
>>537423423
>we'll have Futaba and her as our navis
Gah. I wanted to write one thing and ended up writing something else.
I intended to point out that Luce coimes out in the same patch as Ange, so by the time he's added we'll have her and Futaba as our navis.
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>>537415320
Good taste.
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>>537381895
>>537382015
So Wonder's Palace is basically Kiuchi...
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>>537415320
she's not even out yet, why are nips so stupid
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>>537381895
>>537382015
>>537424239
I think the designers have a fetish.
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>>537419880
>Yui
>Moko
>Yuki
>Bitty Titty Imuoto
>My nigga Onions
All that low

Do we call this bait or just really shit taste?
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you can tell a significant number of people playing this game are hsr refugees from the chasing of spd substats on their cards
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>>537324454
TOMOKO HATE
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>>537415320
I don't believe you.
Yukiko types are the worst characters in every game.
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>>537422897
Has a big IP gacha ever failed this hard in the west?
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>>537424358
>I think the designers have a fetish.
Still too big coward to show shadow tummy.
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>>537424239
We are all degenerate Palace owners in the Persona timeline
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>>537424706
>you can tell a significant number of people playing this game are hsr refugees from the chasing of spd substats on their cards
I suspect metafaggotry is at work too, given how much they massively overrate the Prosperity set and Ayaka weapon.
Unless you really need that turn order for a specific reason, Speed is pretty useless. But there are definitely a few cases where it may legit be relevant, like a shielder or tank getting to act before the enemies' turn 1.
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>>537424706
i fucking wish i could nuke speed stat from my cards, makoto has the highest speed which is so fucking bad
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>>537425291
holy fucking shit dude come on
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>>537425371
What? I gave a "why it usually does nothing" and a "why it sometimes does something". Fucking kneejerk babies, I swear.
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https://ayakasakai.com/
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>>537425996
its a virus do not click
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>>537419714
Dude that’s gonna be in like a year and a half
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>>537422897
Uma is starting to drop as well.
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>>537425996
Here's your waifu popularity poll bros.
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>>537429150
Motohabros, we lost...
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>>537426813
We went from 1.0 to 2.0 in the span of 2 months.
It's not gonna take THAT long to reach 4.0 at the current pace unless they slow down significantly, which kinda kills the point of the accelerated schedule entirely.
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>>537429150
These characters aren't even out yet, how is this supposed to have any merit
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>>537429692
>2 months
How long did it take in CN?
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Does anyone need to trade these?
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>>537430049
bro's trying to trade SRs
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>>537429150
???? where Haruna
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>>537430008
1.0 came out on April 2024.
4.0 came out on April of this year.
It's the anniversary patch, so yeah.
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>>537429730
They are out though
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>>537430510
Retard
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>>537430008
>>537430434
As for 2.0 it came out towards the end of July, so around 3 months after the game released.
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>>537430579
Seems you are, lol
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>>537423612
Good point. I guess I'll save the selectors for him and just tough it out with the Okyann and Puppet until Futaba arrives.
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>>537430127
They're the last ones I need for the collections, doesn't make much sense to waste money on them if I can trade. I've actually gotten more SSRs than SRs...
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>>537430434
>>537430718
Ah nice. I hope the speedup is done well. They should be specifying the details next stream and I just hope fags don't complain if we speed up even more especially considering there's not much to do on a daily basis
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>>537430815
Retard
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>>537430984
Retard
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Just gave my wife Yui expensive perfume.
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>>537430417
Considering Yumi is ranked 11 chances are Chinese people are too gay for Haruna too
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>>537429150
wtf why is motoha so low
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>>537429150
I love Ayaka Sakai
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>>537431547
ugly and boring
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>>537431547
Nips have shit taste. More news at 11.
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>>537429150
wife at #6
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>>537431608
meant for >>537431860
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>>537431860
Based Tomoko chad
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>>537432053
Kill yourself same faggot.
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>>537431992
t. seething Motocuck.
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>>537432167
meds etc etc
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>>537432198
>t. seething Tomotard
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>>537432167
She's at #6 despite being a side character you can't pretend Tomoko isn't popular anymore looool
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>>537432198
Motoha is NOT ugly and boring
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>>537429150
>merope at 12
too fucking high
at least naruru didn't even make the list
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>>537432352
>>537432167
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>>537432456
was into her until i realized being an idolcuck was going to be her whole personality
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>>537429150
>minami only at 9
poor taste
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>>537432529
>samefagging with our post numbers being so close that we have to be different people
kek project more
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>>537432726
Stop samefagging your owns post.
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>>537432529
that's not samefaggotry you fucking retard
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>>537432858
>t. retard who replies to himself all the time
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>>537432810
stop projecting retard we know it's you samefagging when you use the same lingo in every post
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>>537433010
embarrassing
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>>537433036
>NO U
bravo, samefagging retard
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Nothing makes me happier than when I show up to one of my 5 jobs to see Tomoko and knowing I'm making extra money
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>>537433191
>being this embarrassed when called out because you realized our post numbers are too close to be samefagging
kek
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Guys
Frankly, they’re fucking chinese
Why do you give a shit who they liked more?
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>>537433409
that's crazy, samefagging schizo.
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>>537433550
keep projecting your melty is funny
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>>537433640
keep projecting your melty is funny
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I've been grinding strife cards for five days or so and I haven't gotten any moon and star cards with attack mult or crit rate as their main stats so far. Fucking hate this mechanic so much.
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>>537433745
aww you broke? Every time you cry about Tomoko being "hated" i'll remind you that she's #6 despite being a side character and Motoha is #10 despite being a main character and the first girl
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>>537433969
>Thinking the opinion of nips matters
Okay retard
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>>537429150
A good showing by Moko.
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>>537434071
>hurr durr she's not popular
>AHHH NO DON'T SHOW ME POLLING RESULTS ACK
kek
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>>537433847
Relatable. I just spent all my stamina on Strife cards too and didn't get a single usable one.
Not even 1 single better Courage card for Ryuji either.
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>>537434186
>>537434071
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>schizos when someone likes a girl for some reason
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>>537434289
>popularity matters
>sees polling results
>popularity actually doesn't matter! a-a-a-a-and it doesn't because they're chinese!
kek
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>>537433424
the chink devs only care about what they like
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>>537432356
Motoha is insanely boring since she is basically a reskinned Ann despite presenting as tomboy.
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>>537434640
Both her and Tomoko are great in their own ways. This place loved her when the game launched and I thought it was funny how fast she resorted to swearing when she realized she gave up baseball for some guy who was actually an asshole.
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>>537429150
>merope dead last
for naruru only but also what the fuck
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>>537434071
Cope.
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>>537434567
>it doesn't because they're chinese!
correct
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Thanks for accepting the invite Motoha Lovers!
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>>537435065
keep coping and moving goalposts kek you'll never live this down
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>>537434640
Let's not insult Ann like that. But yes, Motoha is obviously the Lovers girl.

>>537434907
There seems to be a threshold for how much people want silliness in their serious woman, and the fact that she's kind of going full weird yuri fangirl over some random maid cafe wagie... I can see the flop.
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>>537435307
motoha is the chariot you fucking idiot
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>>537435285
live what down exactly? your samefagging? your love for a walking doormat that is tomohoe?
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>>537435307
>yuri
He's autistically obsessed with her but I wouldn't say there's any gayness about it. People probably don't like how one dimensional her synergy is especially compared to previous velvet attendants and their hangouts.
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>>537324454
Good OP!
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>>537435620
*she
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>>537435620
Or that.
Still, it does feel a bit cucky for YOUR Attendant to spend pretty much all her free time fangirling someone else.
Like you went from lewd handholding and other shippy stuff with Wonder to 24/7 Nururu.
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>>537435343
Motoha is the chariot because everyone gets a ride heyooo
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>>537435413
>doormat
kek she actually had the guts to block the slammer so you'd have to be retarded to even think that of her. You'll never live down being #10 while being a main character first girl especially with Tomoko at #6 while being a side character especially when you were obsessed with her "lack of popularity". Can't wait to see you move goalposts in the future by saying "erm actually that region doesn't matter"
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Let's just say there's a good reason Ann was the only female PT that wasn't sold as a limited 5 star. :)
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Remember to get your Monthly crap from the Exchange shops too.
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>>537434907
She’s taken.
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I hate rainy days where I can't see my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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>>537436330
Nonsense, they're literally in debut order.
You ain't really gonna try to tell me Ann loses to Haru?
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>>537436330
yeah because joker, morgana, ryuji and ann is your first party in P5
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>>537436330
I love Haru but her not being standard is purely due to them releasing P5 thieves in story order. Joker was limited because being the protagonist he mogs even the girls in popularity polls.
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>>537436535
>>537436557
>>537436582
Why didn't they do Joker for wave 1 and Ann for wave 2? Hm?
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>>537436721
Because they needed a pool of standard characters for people to pull from and port characters are the cheapest to make?
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>>537436721
because joker is the mc, popular and one of sega's mascots you retard
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>>537435307
Motoha is the first girl, but she’s not the Lovers - just like her closest comparison Chie.
Polter is the Lovers. You can tell because of all the hearts built into her outfit, like the big one on her jacket or the one on her collar
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>>537436721
every time i see a smug "hmmm?" being used i picture this one linkara meme in my head kek.
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An Ann banner would've caused immediate EOS.
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>>537437158
Don't you talk about me you son of a bitch
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>>537435068
damn, nice stuff
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Anyone else sometimes not see the Marthym login animation? I wonder if I'm getting cucked out of my 100 daily gemmies when that happens.
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>>537437485
Stop spending money.
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>>537437717
Like, completely? I'll starve to death. If I die I can't pull for my wife Chie.
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>>537437717
but there's a 20% google play sale senpai
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>>537431608
yeah if youre gay
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this is cute
you know a girl is into you when she's ready to lie to compliment you and spend time with you
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what does soulmate change in social link? and how do I know if I am soulmate?
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>>537438864
You sit/stand closer together in hangouts, though unfortunately it doesn't unlock more places to take them.
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>Form bonds with Ayaka
>Starts playing Wonderwall
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Motoha is Chie but not shit
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>>537435068
we might actually make it to top 100
maybe the other /vg/ companios will stop bullying us by then
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>>537429150
I take it that China does not have an adult woman fetish
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>>537439965
Nobody bullies you because nobody cares
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When is this slop going to have a titcow hag banner
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>>537439330
That's not a park. Stupid bitch.
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miyu's weakest soldier
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>>537442123
Okyann has been a rare up unit in a couple of banners already
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At first I thought that I was tweaking, but I wasn't. The arcade event at night needs a different amount of Proficiency than the daytime version.
You need 8 to play at the arcades at night and 9 during the day.
Why though.
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What resets on Sundays again? Shops and RoR bosses, right? Everything else is in the mid-week reset.
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>>537443861
chord's banner is up
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>>537442269
Bwo...
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>>537444031
i don't believe you
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>>537444260
I'm literally using her right now.
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>>537443861
That's about right.
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I hate this fucking game.
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>>537444342
i don't believe you
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>>537444115
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>>537444584
What's wrong with it?
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>>537444748
Speed on Makoto. Don't think it ruins the card completely but I'll have to micromanage everyone so much harder to make sure she still goes last.
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>>537444810
holy autism
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>>537444863
Welcome to rev card minmaxing.
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>>537444584
>>537444748
>>537444810
>>537444863
To say the least.
The dude is such a brainless zombie metafag that he's losing his shit over 1.5 Speed before even rolling the stats.
Just put a Speed card on your Granny, fucking dumbass.
I hope it that card rolls all Speed now too.
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>look at me i'm so nonmeta i'm so smart and above it all
when is this guy going to kill himself
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>>537445209
Cool story, but I'm not the one throwing a tanty over 1.5 Speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lDCDMpmbs
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>>537445402
you're right, you're throwing a tanty over someone being a little autistic like nobody asked nigga
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>>537443861
Shop reset also means new teabags for more action point banking.
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>>537442380
>no r6
He HATES her
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>>537445501
>like nobody asked nigga
"Asking" was implicit to >>537444584 having a melty before you even roll the stats.
Please tell me at least 3x went into Speed. You deserve it for screeching about your double Crit piece before even rolling the stats.
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holy autism kek
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Point of clarification: food buffs can't be used on SOS/Companio boss, correct? So just palaces and mementos? Making food buffs worthless? Can I stop farming peppers and carrots if the only thing they unlock is buffs on dumb content you don't need buffs for?
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>>537439330
giwtwm
>>537436516
That's when you put all those rainy-day buffs on your personas and go steamroll some battles to take out your frustration.
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Elucidator? More like eluci DATE her
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In the end, what card set do you want on Chord. Opinion seem to differ, which sounds to me there might not be a great choice.
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When's the next actually good Psy character?
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>>537446513
just don't even put cards on her that's metafag shit
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>>537446681
We get Summer Moko soon!
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>>537438158
>ready to lie
I'd say that's a little more than lying. She was probably snickering to herself just typing it out.
t. bassist
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>>537446895
>gets much stronger when she's wearing a revealing bikini
D-does she have the unique ability to get stronger the less clothing she's wearing?
W-when is lingerie Moko coming out? I... need the extra damage for uh... Velvet.
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>>537446681
Summer Moko in like a month and a half! DPS wise Haru is about a month after half anni
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Does the double top up reset for half anni?
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>>537446513
Power for being free. Prosperity is also fine if you happened to get them farming cards for Makoto, but it's not worth going out of your way over it.
I don't know when better sets like Worry and Reconciliation come out.

>>537446861
I'm guessing from your continuing meltdown that the card rolled Speed after all.
Get fucked, you deserve it for being a whiny bitch over 1.5 Speed.
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>>537447369
i'm not even the anon sperging out about his card, the autism in this general is actually reaching critical mass. you fags actually need time off. just stop posting until 2.0
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Power is shit. Prosperity is better.
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>>537441134
sounds like bullying to me
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>>537447493
>autistically spergs out about his meta and minmaxing things which make no difference
>UR THE AUTIST!!!!!
Really you people have no self-awareness whatsoever.
My advice: "Yeah that card set sucks. Just farm better subs for your carries, or decent filler Control sets for your VT supports like Motoha, Kurotani, etc"
Your advice: "Well ackshually if Makoto has more than 69.420 Speed she will take her turn before Leo using 3x Attack cards if he rolls less than 13.37 Speed"
Like dumbass, just farm good subs for the characters you rely on for damage. And if turn order becomes a big problem, just put a Speed card on your supports.
Telling people to chill the fuck out is hardly autistic.
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you're both autistic, close the tab for a few days and cool off unironically
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If you're not level 80 please go back to reddot so the real players can talk.
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If you're not in the subway Right Now you're not a real Slammer
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i don't actually play p5x
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>>537448571
Come on and SLAM
And welcome to JAPAN
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>thread is only ever alive when its time to shit on moko
its persover
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I only come to this general for the hag lover anon’s slop posts
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>>537449068
sideways mapo manko...
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I only come to this thread because I like Persona
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I only come to this thread for the AI slop porn webm posts.
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Need Motoha to use her weapon as an anal bead inside me
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>>537429150
>No Haruna
Never felt so detached from a game's community. Never felt so apathetic for the future of the game.
I feel like my gems aren't going up fast enough, and even if they were, there's no one I want to roll on.
And everyone else's taste is so shit, that there might never be again.

What a miserable experience P5X has been.
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>>537450037
water in ball is like putting batteries in a sock
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>>537450752
donation girl soon
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>Motoha now spends all her time with (You) and ditches Tomoko
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>537451931
old bait. stale. not worth engaging. only the ironic tomokoposter will still bite
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That ruffled his little jimmies
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>>537451931
>>537452115
I feel called out... since I was gonna say what a coincidence that I ditch Motoha to spend my time with Tomoko instead.
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>>537452257
We know, rail road tracks-kun
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When's the patch? 3rd or 4th?
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Tomoko sucked my dick.
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>>537456567
Was it at least good?
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>>537456567
Kiuchi...
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Yumi sucked my dick.
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the shit i do to get my nigga kohryu
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>>537453797
4th.
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sega! ^.^
atorasu :)
pi sutajio :3
BURRAAKKUUU WIIINNNGGUUZUU >:O
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>>537457272
Got my violet bouquets all set for the 19-20 climb. We will summit this mountain together.
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>>537458436
Key sucked my dick
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>>537459684
is that even worth it isnt it rng to get violet
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>>537460571
If you lose the roll on violet you get jasmine which you can turn in to Yaoling for cheap fondness. Math nerds did the math and flowers are cheaper then regular presents if you have the yui/lufel passives.
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>>537460571
Of course it's rng, it's a gacha game.
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>>537460882
What level Yui synergy? 13? Rank 17 just makes things grow faster, which would just be a convenience thing and not a resource thing, yeah?
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>>537461638
1 5 and 17 are all convenience things, and don't impact the cost/fondness ratio of flower gifts. 17 especially is overkill. 9 and 13 are the money levels. Flowers are roughly similar to other gifts without them, but once you have 9 and 13, flower gifts are much more cost efficient then regular gifts.
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do the battle pass tokens ever let us get limited 5* weapons? or is it always going to just be the standard characters
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Has anyone else been experiencing network issues the last two days? Kind of annoying...
>>537462023
Rumor is that once the limited gets their rerun, their weapon gets added to the shop for 20 salamandies.
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>>537462284
good to know, for now though...
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>>537353402
sag hex
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>>537462353
Sweet
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>>537354586
I'm more concerned about the weapons, since Chord apparently wants her R1 very much
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>>537363736
I'd do it for Chie.
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How much attack is too much attack?
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Are the 2x rewards always limited like they are with the current revelation card bonus (5 runs per day)?
If so, is there any reason to hoard coffee outside of being able to focus on building up a specific character in response to learning what the current boss battles are?
I have 19.5 days worth of coffee and am kind of tempted to blow through it to help me get through some of the velvet trials to earn more star fragments per day.
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>>537463603
does having the dark orange on the bar mean it's wasted?
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>>537463758
they'll always be limited otherwise people will just always hoard coffee instead of paying to get more energy
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>>537463868
No idea.
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>>537463758
Event bonus rewards always have a limited amount per day, so there isn't going to be a free for all event you have to save for.
The repression rewards at 70 are better then 60 for the same amount of stamina, so its worth hoarding them until you hit wonder 70. After 70 you can safely burn coffee, because the climb to 80 is brutal and holding coffee until then would be insane.
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>>537463758
You should be hoarding coffee until you hit level 80. Then burn it all farming love set.
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>>537463868
not entirely wasted but you'd be better off investing into the other stats instead
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I wish I was groomed by a cute bartender lady when I was 16. It's not fair
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>>537465330
this but a guitarist who always wears a cute hat and headphones
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>>537464250
What about when we have an event like the museum and bank that came with a store which basically encouraged you to spend all your stamina on the event... but then you also have somewhat random dailies that sometimes require a specific real of repression -- perhaps it would be worth saving some coffees for things like that?
>>537464603
>love set
I heard that the Truth will set you free.
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>>537465937
she doesn't seem like the grooming type; she barely has the confidence to busk, much less slowly over the course of months break down a young man's confidence and self-worth in order to make herself the only pillar of support in his life.
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>A2 Ann
>Still have the selector
>Still have the cognite selector
Do i do it...?
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>>537469009
>selector
No, spend it on a new character.
>cognite selector
Eh, maybe. Since we got cucked on the Marian cognite I dunno if there's really any other great competition. Ryuji maybe.
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Are there dudes out there writing scripts to calculate the optimal sequence of moves with the optimal setup based on what is available to them?
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>43/80
>46/70 + guarantee
How are you doing bros?
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>>537376224
I love her design and style, Wonder needs a tall model gf who will gift him casual yukata wear
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>>537470650
Daym, bro, respect. You gettin Chord AND the summer girls.
I'm sitting at 0/80 and 20/70 with around 22k gems; no guarantees.
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I thought metro went from 100 to 120. Not 150?
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>>537471183
was from 100 to 130 last patch, and then went up to 150 a few days ago.
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how am I supposed to grind out these new level 70 personas and farm for cards it's not fair
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>>537470650
60k gemmies and like 30 tickets, but I only have 20 millicoins so I hope I get lucky on her weapon
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>>537470650
My account wont be bricked anytime soon. I'm pull for both Chord and S. Closer with their 5* weapons.
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>>537471430
I share your pain.
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Is there 3-team content in the future, or should 2 teams worth of characters be enough?
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>>537470650
Going for A6R1 Scloser and A1R1 Ayaka.
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>>537472124
Keep spending money.
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>>537472182
Keep being poor.
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>>537471430
>>537471821
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>>537472272
Its so fucked up because Persona is a game I want to binge from start to finish, but they've made a version of the game where it's literally impossible unless they do an EoS retail version.
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>>537472182
Believe me, I want to, but the credit card companies keep putting holds on my spending.
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Do they care at all?
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>>537473306
China does not care about foreigner money at all, no.
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How the fuck do I do this? My Makoto is 1 shotting each one after an all-out attack but I'm only getting like 1,550,000 points.
So I'm doing it in like 7 actions, 0 allies KO, and have an all out attack, yet it fails.
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>>537473306
you should be playing on mobile anyways
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>>537474263
Take your revelation cards off of Makoto and put on her 2* weapon. Simple as.
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>>537474510
So it's that I need to get a 2nd all-out attack in? So I can just use her AoE instead.
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>>537471960
The former.
Nightmare Catcher starts to require 3 teams down the road as it gets 3 bosses instead of 2.
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>>537474617
Okay cool, so I'm not wasting resources by fucking around with my comps.
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>>537470910
shit are you me? that's basically how i am
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>>537474263
You aren't getting enough points because you aren't getting the 6x score bonus on the Cerberus if you are just blowing him away with nuke damage with Makoto.
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>>537474741
nanji は ware
ware は nanji
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>>537474572
you want to do an additional AOA as close to them being killed but not actually killed as you possibly can.
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>>537473306
who the fuck plays persona on a controller
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>>537474798
Oh no I'm using ice too. I have Shun and the like 7 headed snake persona. But apparently I need TWO x6 from two all out attacks?
>>537474987
Why specifically at the end?
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Is it just me or Thor is cracked by default?
Those are all pretty solid skills and passives.
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>>537475017
Walking around is way more comfy with a controller. I do menus and shit with the mouse.
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>>537474912
Anon "Broke Nigga"
Synergy 1
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yeah but wonder's damage sucks
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>>537475038
The only person who can equip 7 headed snake persona is wonder, and his damage doesn't get 6x score on the elemental trials. Any wonder damage or any non-weak/aoa damage done to enemies in the trials will lower your overall score.
>try to get AOAs as close to them being killed as possible
Overkill at 6x score to goose the score.
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>>537475038
>7 headed snake persona
That could be fucking you up since you don't get the bonus points via Wonder.
>>537475176
lol
I would be a paypig if the North American region version support Japanese text.
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>>537475337
>That could be fucking you up since you don't get the bonus points via Wonder.
Well I only started getting enough points WITH the snake. I needed the extra ice for more all out attacks
>>537475320
Oh so I just need to make sure the final weakness inflict isn't Wonder?
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>>537475048
He's good if you want to run Mono-Electric when we get Chord, but that's about it. Wonder is the weakest party member.
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>>537474263
Should've rolled Fox. :D
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>>537475415
Wonder should be relegated to buffing and healing on mid-high level ele velvet trials. ANY Wonder attack will not be awarded 6x score, even if hitting weakness. If Wonder is knocking enemies down and someone else is doing the followup that causes an AOA, that AOA will get 6x score, but all the damage Wonder did to get to that point will not be at 6x score, and having a non-wonder ally doing that damage instead would get a higher score.
I just auto'ed it with Makoto/Leo/Kotone, with Wonder on buff/heal duty to make sure the party still works. Focus any single target buffing on Kotone over Makoto, since she'll need the help to keep up with Makoto and if you somehow kill the frost enemy first, Kotone can still score 6x helping on the nuke/frost enemy.
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>>537476017
So should I use Skadi or who? That persona seemed good as a support since it freezes.
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>>537476146
The point is to not attack with Wonder at all to maximize your points scored. Just give him your best heals and buffs.
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>>537476274
Which is what? I still need the one-more from him
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I'm helping!!
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All my friends quit after palace 2....
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>>537476445
And they were probably smart to do so.
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>>537476331
No you don't. Cancel that shit.
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>>537476707
I tried doing him only buffing and I don't get enough points. I need the all out attack 6x
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>>537476801
If you do 10,000 weakness damage, it is worth 60,000 points.
If you do 10,000 AoA damage, it is worth 60,000 points.
If you do 10,000 of Wonder damage against weak enemies to help get AoAs, that is worth 10,000 points, and you have put yourself 50k in the hole that you could have gotten otherwise.
Unless you are failing to end before the turn timer, you don't need to be AoA'ing every turn, or at all even. AOA damage scores just as much as weak damage. I promise you, I just did it now: I did 100% frost damage to the frostyboi and 100% nuke/frost damage to the other guy, no AoA'ing at all, and got enough score to 3 star.
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>>537477215
Yeah, at the end of the day the score thresholds are decided by the HP of the enemies. As long as you're killing them, if it's exclusively non-Wonder weakness damage it should clear.
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They're about to release chord, wind, then the summer girls in a month period. You need over 4 million kompaku, 300+ skill boat niggers, 1200 books, 100 gold crystal things, 1000 gold parts, card sets, etc. How the fuck are you supposed to build them all in a timely manner
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>>537477697
Don't make me tap the sign. >>537472272
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>>537477697
See >>537472272
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>>537477697
FIFTY FIVE KONPAKU FIFTY FIVE INCENSES FIFTY FIVE BOOKS FIFTY FIVE ROCKS FIFTY FIVE PARTS
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>>537477876
NEW T0 BANNER IN 3 WEEKS, TIME TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
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>>537475038
>why specifically at the end
Consider the following simplified scenario.
>You have an attack A that deals 5 damage and another attack B that deals 2 damage.
>You are fighting an enemy with 10 hp
>Your goal is to score the most points, which are given at a rate = to the amount of damage you do.
>the fight ends as soon as a turn starts where the opponent has 0 or less hp (causing it to be removed from the battle)
If you do A twice or B five times, you'll complete the fight with 10 points.
But if you do ABBA - you get a situation where the enemies health goes from 10 -> 5 -> 3 -> 1 -> -4, and you've earned 14 points instead.

This is why you do the big attack that is worth points at the end, when the enemy is as low as possible.
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>>537481113
kys nerd
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>>537481149
Your grandma died from lead exposure for the sole purpose of making my family toilet cleaner
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Let's just add summer minami and miyu eaely. they have nice titties and legs
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>>537324987
Did she get raped?
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>>537326717
People like you are why the game will remain in a shitty place.
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>>537326717
People like you are why this game will survive. Thank you for your service.
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>>537381895
>>537382015
The fuck is that?
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>>537326717
Based
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>>537482551
体育祭Boss from 4.4.1 or whatever it is.
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>>537429150
I wasn't expecting Kotone to be so high.
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>>537482551
a lazy event that reuses animations from shadow kiuchis fight
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What card set is ideal for Chord?
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>>537483185
Growth and Power
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oh fuck he's still here
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>>537483185
Love and Faith
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>>537483185
trust
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>>537434907
It sucks man. I love Merope's look, how she talks. I was cool with her being into idol stuff and buying her idol-related gifts... but all that Naruru shit just made me completely lose interest.
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>>537483185
Acceptance and Strife
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>>537483185
Benched Forever
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>>537481113
Bless you, anon.
That one anon is just mad that he can't understand what you're talking about (likely not the guy asking the question, obviously; he seems like a decent guy too).
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>>537485097
Stop replying to yourself.
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>>537485187
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Surely you scored 40 on both event bosses, right?
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Alright, I'm Wonder level 70. Can I NOW start using my coffees? I'd really like to get Dyonisus and start filling the persona compendium.
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>>537486080
I did the hard battles on auto and then stopped
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>>537483492
Same, but we should've noticed the clear signs of an her being a massive idorufag.
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Is there anything similar to a guaranteed feature unit but for the standard banner? Like if you roll and get Rin, the next 5* is a non-launch 5*.
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>>537486119
yeah its fine at 70 but id still save some to lvl future characters
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>>537486119
It's frankly speaking fine all the time. Coffee only has use if it actually DOES something for you and this is realistically speaking only early on.

If you don't have issues getting all mattering rewards, no need to use coffee, but there's unlikely going to be anything that will require you to use coffee either if you get there.

tl;dr: No matter which gacha you play, eventually you have so much resources extra energy loses all its meaning. So use it when you actually have use for it.
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y'know
Hag's manta ray that she rides around through the air
That's sorta fucking cool as shit

I just feel like people didn't really recognize that
And it's true
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>>537497168
It seems like a reference to Makoto's personabike. Now she gets a green goblin glider.
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Why did you guys tell me to get Ann dupes when Ryuuji is better in global now? Prydwen updated Ann global to T3 and Ryuuji to T0.5..
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>>537502829
They are both useless unless shilled, and the only shilling that kinda happened recently was Ann. So Ann is better.
Welcome to P5Shill.
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>Prydwen
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>>537502939
I guess the shilling changed to phys lately then? But some other fire characters are still T0/T0.5
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>>537463603
4880 in-combat for maximum buffs. Everything above that could've been going elsewhere.
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>>537483185
Prosperity and Trust
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>>537502829
Her A1 is stronger than Ryuji's but you should always get the character you don't have. Roster is everything in this game.
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>>537503393
I have like A4 on her or some shit now. I still have a copy thing to use that could be Ryuuji A1.
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why do people say harunas affection stacks are "too random" just mag dump on wonders turn
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eh not too bad considering the only big release was Makoto. Nobody gave a shit about Phoebe.
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do makototards really....?
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>>537510150
I dunno. I think phone players are just leaving. Understandably.
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>>537511410
eh let's see how 2.0 shakes out. If, for some reason, 2.0 is lower than this month you may start dooming.
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>>537510150
previous month had
>a flop
>a soon to be standard character who everyone skipped
>a maleflop
and it still did almost twice better than Makoto and Phoebe
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>>537429150
>Kotone in third place
How? Like seriously, how can she rank that high?
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>>537429150
Motohaflop...
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Stream on the 3rd.
>Tomoko is coming back
YES!!!!
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>>537510150
where do they get the numbers from?
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>>537511660
True. Not only does the story pick up but they should be outlining speedup and maybe introducing the features they said they would. I just hope they're smart enough to improve soft pity and remove the 6 month delay at the very least starting with cherish.
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>>537514061
Their ass.
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>>537513989
Based. She's the only one who plays the game too so she might ask questions we want answers to
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I love how Tomoko is basically a permanent fixture on the streams by now
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>>537511660
I wouldn't call it dooming. Playing (and paying) these games on phone is silly.
I enjoy some games on phone as well, but this?
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>>537510150
How the fuck is FGO printing so much money? Getting the roll currency is absolute cancer.
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>>537514161
are you shitposting? why are people taking this seriously if that number does not come from anything you can trust?
>>537514619
from what I've heard FGO had a pretty good month banner-wise, makes sense.
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>>537514619
>How the fuck is FGO printing so much money? Getting the roll currency is absolute cancer.
On the latter half first, FGO has poor rates but the pull income isn't bad for ongoing players.
On the former half, FGO always cleans house this time of year with their Summer+Anni combo. This year was their 10th Anni, but even so they won this time last year too, and the year before that.
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>>537514619
These stats are taken from phone only, and I think iphone at that, and the rest is guesstimated on top, but will NEVER account for non phone spendings.

FGO is ONLY on phone. That's why. Similar to Love and Deepspace btw. A lof ot the games fairly high up are basically phone only games OR at least are better played on phone.

This game will never be so far up because who the fuck plays something like this on phone unless they must.
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>>537516642
I play the dailies on phone, traversing palaces with phone is actually so annoying to do
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>>537516642
>FGO is ONLY on phone.
there's a web shop where you can buy gacha currency at lower prices
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>>537517835
Yeah pretty much all gacha have this. I know. But that won't change that a game solely on phone will earn more money on phone, because 100% of ingame spenders are using that very platform.

Here we divide ingame spenders with PC as well, and some shit like Hoyo also has console versions.
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>unironically discussing reddit revenue chart with made-up numbers
sea hours la
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>>537510150
Definitive proof the 20% off sale is their last bait before EOS.
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>>537518774
Just accept the game is in a dire state money wise.
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>>537510150
EoS soon...
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>>537520643
Just accept this dick in your ass faggot
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>>537521757
>faggot
you're the one putting your dick up his ass, though
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>>537513989
They should just promote Tomoko to a main character at this point.
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>>537514619
FGO is far more established as a cultural phenomenon and fandom than persona. It has fucking Nasu writing for it and hordes of talented artists drawing for it. That the gameplay is completely braindead doesn't matter.
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>>537522509
She's the token normie. Tomoko is the Mishima of P5X.
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>>537363736
>not rolling for Chad Ziodynecock
>not rolling for Amagidyne
>not rolling Rise who will definitely be broken
>not rolling for Chie
>not rolling Tohru "bitches and whores" Adachi
Sad
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>>537364008
But she does have a Persona from ultimax thats featured in P5, Sophie from Strikers has a icon in the game so shes already guaranteed, meaning more spinoff characters like Wolf, Labrys are possible, Marie is definitely possible with being a Bless version of Yusuke with dual elements of Bless and Ligthning
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Okay consider this. Joker is known to colab and kill other games all the times.

Now how about WE colab with those games that SURVIVED the P5 colab? They MUST be extremely good, right?
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I le everyone for le A1 chrod xD

updoots please!!!
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>>537525148
>>not rolling for Chie
That's just worse Motoha
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FGO lore:
> Ishtar in Fate/Grand Order is the Mesopotamian goddess of love, beauty, war, and fertility, but due to the decline of divine mystery in the modern world, she cannot manifest on her own. To circumvent this, she uses a pseudo-servant system, possessing the body of a compatible human—in this case, Rin Tohsaka. This results in a fusion of personalities: Ishtar retains her divine nature and immense power, but Rin’s personality traits—like tsundere behavior and human emotion—temper her. This creates a version of Ishtar that is less destructive and more approachable, though still proud, impulsive, and greedy.

In her original mythology, Ishtar was a powerful and unpredictable goddess who could bring prosperity or ruin. She was worshipped as a life-giving force but also feared for her rage and vindictiveness. FGO adapts this duality by showing her as a goddess who claims to act out of divine authority but frequently gets sidetracked by greed, petty squabbles, and a growing fondness for mortals. Her mythological “Descent into the Underworld,” where she confronts her sister Ereshkigal and is humiliated, is referenced directly in her rivalry with Ereshkigal in FGO, giving depth to her character arc.

In the Babylonia chapter, Ishtar initially appears as a threat but eventually joins the protagonist’s side after being outmaneuvered and bribed. She reveals that her true motivation is not cruelty but frustration at being rejected by Uruk as their patron goddess. Over time, she shifts from a self-centered deity to a reluctant protector, helping in the fight against Gorgon and Tiamat. Her arc in FGO is ultimately one of reluctant growth: a divine being forced into a human form, slowly learning empathy, responsibility, and the value of connection—even if she’ll never admit it out loud.
P5X Lore
>Her name is Motoha. She likes french fries. Her codename is closer because she played baseball.
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>>537528494
rin sucks
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>>537528494
>FGO lore
damegami lol
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>Her name is Motoha. She likes french fries. Her codename is closer because she played baseball.
the perfect woman
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>537528494
>P5X Lore
You're comparing a 10 years old game with a 1 year old game.
In a disingenuous manner at that.
Kindly fuck off back to your containment thread.
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>>537528494
>FGO lore
wordswordswords
>P5X lore
Keep it simple, stupei
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>>537528494
this retard did the exact same things a few days ago with hsr, please ignore the brownoid
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>>537529484
The HSR text was so fucking bad; full of unnecessary names and titles, details that didn't make any sense in an overview, and overall poor writing. I hope it was a poorly translated text or the introduction of a wiki page made by a 12 years old
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>>537363581
>>release every P5 character
where's dark akechi THO???????
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What the fuck is Surver?
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>>537530296
Honestly a wasted opportunity that they didn't make Akechi a switchable Bless/Curse character like 5* Mont where his appearance and Persona change accordingly.
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>>537475420
Why do they refuse to buff Wonder?
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>gacha
>no lewd designs
What were they thinking?
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>>537528710
old men for money
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>>537531692
A series of questions but every "why" questions is replaced by an "are" query
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>>537532412
China.
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Don't play the game anymore but I'm still comming smut of the baseball shadow (got 2 more pics currently in progress, plus I'm still waiting for the original bikini artist to stop being MIA because I have a few more ideas for them.) https://mega.nz/folder/sK8X2LxA#RLYzoBCLJlqvICBH4HnJtQ
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>>537533691
are you gonna try out 2.0 atleast?
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>>537533952
Probably not, missed a few days due to having some miserable days at work and it was all downhill from there
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>>537534294
thats a shame, hope youre doing okay and thanks for coming here anyway
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>>537534525
It is indeed a shame, I was having a lot of fun with the game too. I'll keep comming art of the baseball shadows, at least
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>>537533691
Based
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new hags when?
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When is Yukari’s banner coming?
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I love my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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>>537532412
Summer minami literally shakes her ass as idle
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Game will probably EOS after 2.0.
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I will probably continue loving Tomoko after 2.0
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>>537542037
This but with Motoha
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*unslams Tomoko*
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>>537539526
yup game will probably eos since global is bringing in more money than CN is surely
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>>537542037
Based

>>537542343
Cringe
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>>537543437
Revenue fell 50% in one month.
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>>537542729
But anon, slamming builds character
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>>537542037
Cringe

>>537542343
Based
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>>537539526
>>537543437
I hope we at least see the end of the second palace...
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>>537544210
>>537539526
>>537543437
third*
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>>537536506
need more art of yukaris panties!
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>>537535000
incredibly based
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huh? we still have EOS trannies around?
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>>537544939
obviously, every gacha communities get infested, even outside of 4chan
>>537544628
this
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>>537543820
That's normal.
>but
First gacha?
>BUT
Every single gacha earns a fuckton in its first month and then loses money until they stabilize with getting peaks during special patches like ani. If that doesn't happen something is very wrong.
>LET ME SHITPOST AND STOP GIVING ME TRUE FACTS
No.
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No successful gacha does a 20% off sale so soon after release.
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>>537546103
T R V K E
R
V
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>>537490848
I'm interested in this too. How was it dealt with on CN/KR? Do you just need to go through the standard banner a ton of times and hope that you get characters like Marian and Phoebe once they're added, or do they have featured standard banners where they are rate up?
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is prosperity good for Chord or are there new cards coming out for her?
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>>537548840
no you should use control
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My guild has a whale, easy top 50
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>>537548840
thats one of her recommended sets and she has a new set coming but not sure if they come with her or not
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>>537549572
Why is the weapon not maxed though?
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>>537548840
Don't fall for the meme. She's better with growth. She's only better with prosperity at A6
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>>537549847
Probably waiting to reforge it with a random standard weapon from lost 50/50 on Chord's weapon banner.
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>>537546297
It's Google promoting their PC client which no one uses.
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>>537548840
If you have Makoto, go for prosperity. Simply because you are farming Makoto cards anyways, so you'll have a lot of good prosperity pieces. Instead of having to waste stamina on a different card set.
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>>537550116
Stop spreading misinformation.
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>>537549572
I have a friend with an A0 Makoto with R5 Weapon, very bizarre decision
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>>537550229
considering they're you're friend, you're probably as equally retarded
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>>537549572
I heard that the reason there hasn't been a nuke character to powercreep her is because she's the best selling unit in the game and they're afraid to piss off people that spent money specifically for her.
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>>537548840
prosperity is EVIL, go with growth/power
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I'm staying strong and not pulling for Makoto. Only a few more days left and that temptress will finally leave.
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>>537551138
yeah bro. have fun using chord on your sepia's highlight. That'll work great!
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>>537551138
Holding out for Chord and Summer Closer? You're likely making the correct decision.
I caved and got her, but I'll be skipping this summer season; I just hope I'll have enough in time for Futaba and 5* Mont.
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>>537551590
Chord and Kasumi actually.
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>>537551658
>[code name] and [first name]
?
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>>537551658
nice
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>>537551893
because only one of them is a real phantom thief
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>>537551658
I'll be doing the same since I think it would look tacky-as-fuck to be going through a palace and have someone in your group hanging out in fuckin' swimwear -- or worse, on a fucking surfboard with waves below her.
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>>537553120
Not that I don't appreciate girls in swimsuits but I wish they'd give an option to use their regular PT clothes on summer units.
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>>537553735
kys gay
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Imagine being so much of a fag that you're disgusted by hot girls in swimsuits.
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>fully stocked up on Camellia Flower Tea gifts for when Miyu synergy is released
Flowerfags always winning.
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tfw Phoebe raked in more money than pokemon and fire emblem
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>>537553735
you mean you dont want to use summer motoha in the winter themed zone?
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Imagine having no taste.
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>>537554842
I want to use summer Motoha's butt
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>>537554815
good job on beating the 7 year old gachas with no content.
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>>537554815
>Makoto, the most popular waifu in Persona history, gets a banner
>Revenue drops in half
Yeah this game is cooked.
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>>537555574
>Makes 4Mil off of an OC that isnt even meta and will hit the standard pool soon
Alive game
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>>537554815
>most popular P5 girl barely beats ancient png collectors
k buddy
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>>537554815
>COMBINED
oh god this includes taiwan, KR and CN sales
ITS OVER PACK IT UP BOYS EOS IN FOUR DAYS
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>80% Wonder ailment accuracy from schema
>Skadi has Makajamaon with 32.6% accuracy
>Her passive increase ailment accuracy by ANOTHER 25.4%
>Makajamaon fails a lot of times anyway
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>>537556314
Game was already on its deathbed in those countries anyway. I'd wager >80% of the revenue now is from Japan.
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>>537556949
and that's a good thing, Japan is the only region that matters
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>>537556734
check the guide on lufel
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>>537550553
Wouldn't be surprised. Makoto is absurdly popular, and introducing a competing Nuke character would annoy her large fanbase.
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>>537533691
>>537535000
thanks anon, love those baseball shadow sluts, wish more people did art of them without needing to be comm'd
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>>537556734
>thinking enemies have 0% aliment resist
retard
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>>537554815
i thought the limbitches were oh so popular... what happened?
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>look through my cards
>realize my fox has an unupgraded blue defense card
welp guess I know what I farm next
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yo, zevai, if you're here, it's SA-KAI with kai sounding like sigh, not key. s m h
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>>537557315
Why are they being jewed like gaijins then?
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wait
can you only clear the business plan if you fuse kohryu?
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>>537561395
bro never played ghost of tsushima.
does this persona call themselves zevey?
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>>537561875
max rank janosik
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>>537561875
>>537561981
Alice+Janosik for now
I don't know what Palace 3 adds but there's obviously more Rank VIIIs
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>>537533691
holy based
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>>537542729
Hey, how am I supposed to bag such a bitty titty hottie if she still has her confidence and independence?!

>>537560991
I had him on 2 purples for an embarrassingly long time. I incorrectly assumed that my Yui being decently set up meant I'd put effort into Opulence... nope, just lopsided card yields.
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>>537561965
>does this persona call themselves zevey?
kek. wouldn't surprise me.
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>>537533691
Get better taste.
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What's the best passive ability to slot in this last slot? Health regen? The automatic partywide ATK% buff?
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>>537544628
need more art of yukari without panties
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for queen's moon card, should i have attack, or atk mult +



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