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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8594 - Crossworlds? Meh.. Tails? Yes! Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocBa8jTXUA

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition Trailer
ENG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIhfo2X0oI
JPN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVoDsexw0NM

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk 6 | Vector, Espio, & Charmy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxYkmbmDAr0&ab_channel=SonictheHedgehog

>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
https://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70

>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>537348468
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>>537390882
I know you're the pedoposter.
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>>537390882
Imma start playing it now to spite you.
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>Sonic
Fucks insecure people
>Shadow
Fucks confident people
>Silver
Fucks mentor-like people
>Vector
Fucks hags
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Amy Rose
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>>537391143
I never raped a child, you silly man
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>>537391341
They all say the same.
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I want Sparky and Violet and AAR to write Sonic
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>>537391415
>I've never run a particle acceleration test
>I'm not a nuclear physicist
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>>537391415
You're not very happy aren't you?
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I love Shadow!
I love Shadria!
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>>537337167
Belated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreleased_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_games#Sonic_Adventure_3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Adventure_2#GameCube_port
The frogcyclopedia did the research that the canadifuck couldn't.
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>>537391758
projection
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Been playing this game since 4 am, and I've cum twice now yet I'm still horny, it's nothing to do with the game my head is just filledofull of pervy thoughts and I'm trying so desperately to destract myself but even now I'm all bricked up and thinking about sex. Why?! I've never been as horny as I am today please save me crossworlds!
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>>537391767
So it did get released under a different title.
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>>537390882
CrossWorlds? Bah... Tailsito? Sí!
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>>537391752
>she already likes my ship and [fanfic]
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>>537391990
>That shit don't look like Amy
'kay
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>>537390882
>>537391341
>>537391758

Tails sucks, hopes the next thread has Shadow.
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>>537391767
>deleting the multi-chara format in favor of Sonic as a werewolf
I always felt Werehog had elements of treasure/shooting gameplay but talk about sabotage.
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>>>537389184
The JP lines are absolutely nerfed in comparison to this.

They don't have to make the Blaze/Sonic crush come across as being that strong, but then they barely act as if they are merely more than slightly friendly rivals which is not exactly the whole picture either.
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>>537391068
You're telling me a MAN drew those???
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>being so retarded you get yourself banned in a samefagging effort
good riddance tailsbro
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>>537390882
How we feeling Shadow Nation?
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>>537384909
It is very rarely in fiction you see a story fail so utterly in its mere conception. Ms. Cream going to a summer camp to learn how to be a hero? That makes no sense. She already is a hero. We knew this. This is established in the games. Anyone who's played a game would know this. If they're trying to establish for the IDW readerbase who haven't played a game with Ms. Cream as a protagonist, fine. However, Ms. Cream being dumb enough to fall for what's obviously a trap by Mr. Orbot and Mr. Cubot? Outright character assassination.
If they wanted to have Ms. Cream at a summer camp for heroes, they should've had her as a guest of honor to instruct the students on what heroism means and how to be a hero.
This comic being so focused on the restoration is very distracting. Why would Mr. Cubot and Mr. Orbot try and perform espionage on the restoration by going through Ms. Cream? Has Ms. Cream even been established to be a member of the restoration? Why would Ms. Cream fall for their tricks? This feels like something more-so out of Sonic Boom than the main continuity. An excuse plot for gags. However, unlike the western Sonic Boom show, it fails even at being funny. The art is ugly. It's just really, really, really bad. The OCs they bother to include are all terrible. Why does one have tumblr hair? This does not feel like a Sonic comic. It feels like a terrible tumblr fan comic masquerading as official material. Why would Ms. Cream sign 'love the restoration,' anyways? Why would Ms. Cream care about some non-profit she isn't a part of? Is it supposed to be the freedom fighters or a humanitarian organization or what even?
This comic is so confusing. Is this a war story or not? I don't know, it can't decide. I hated it. I really, truly, and utterly despise this piece of media's existence. This frustrates me. Ms. India Swift does not understand Cream.
I am going to need some time to cool off before I stomach reading more of this outright character assassination.
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The open network test was a really good idea because now I'm actually invested in the game.
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>>537392976
Misreply. I meant to reply to >>537384926
My apologies.
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>>537392976
Thank you Creamanon it is my most hated story in IDW as a cream fan and no one talks about the character assassination it does.
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>>537392976
IDW fans will gloss over stories like this like it is acceptable to have extremely poor quality control regularly.
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>>537393369
It is quite obvious that the person who made this story (Ms. India Smith) did not care for Ms. Cream beyond the surface level. From my research, they are a character designer for Hardlight and have published an original graphic novel, the girl and the grim, for IDW Publishing. It is my understanding that this person is not a genuine fan of Ms. Cream but rather someone who has used the character for career advancement.
>>537393528
Yep, indeed. They do not care for quality storytelling. They will willingly consume slop.
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>>537393816
>character designer for HARDLIGHT
How did she still fuck up so bad?
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>>537393816
I don't think she cares for Cream on the surface level.
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Question for you all are IDW sonic fans mentally defecient ?
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>>537392118
>Crossworlds? Bah-
Your rapebait Nine is in Crossworlds.
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>>537393369
>no one talks about the character assassination it does
Anyone aware of the comic knows it does but couldn't be bothered to be angry after TSR and Forces omitted Cream which were more important as far as mistreating the character
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>537392387
The Blaze/Sonic crush doesn't exist, it's Ian made.
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>>537394841
Mr. Anon, don't you have anything better to do than spam this terrible copypasta every day?
it is genuinely an eyesore to look at. The least you could do is have some common courtesy and correct you capitalization to be more proper.
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>>537390882
Epic thread
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>>537392926
Pretty good
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>>537392423
>A MAN drew Slopaze?
Well yeah? you think women would like to be that helpless and stupid?
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>>537392926
Everyone wants us dead.
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>>537394508
Amy Rose
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The Apex of Authority. The Bane of Black Arms. The Commander of Chaos. The Director of Domination. The Eradicator of Evil. The Founder of Fortitude. The General of Glory. The Harbinger of Humanity. The Imperator of Intelligence. The Juggernaut of Justice. The Keeper of Kings. The Lord of Leadership. The Master of Might. The Nemesis of Nightmares. The Overlord of Operations. The Protector of Power. The Quarterback of Quelling. The Ruler of Retribution. The Sentinel of Strategy. The Tactician of Triumph. The Undertaker of Undesirables. The Vanguard of Valor. The Warden of Warfare. The Xenophon of Xenophobia. The Yardstick of Yielding. The Zenith of Zeal.

THE UNBREAKABLE COMMANDER
THE OVERLORD OF ORDER
THE JUSTICIAR OF JUDGMENT
THE ENFORCER OF EARTH
THE TALLEST OF THE TALL
THE CHAD OF CHADS
THE ABSOLUTE GIGACHAD OF G.U.N.

APEXCOMMANDER the UNQUESTIONED
GRIPCOMMANDER the UNRELENTING
INSURMOUNTABLECOMMANDER the UNSHAKABLE
INDOMITABLECOMMANDER the UNCONQUERABLE
AESTHETICCOMMANDER the REGAL
SWOLECOMMANDER the TOWERING
TANKCOMMANDER the FORTIFIED
PHYSICALLYIMPOSINGCOMMANDER the TERRIFYING
GLARECOMMANDER the DOMINATOR
JUGGERNAUTCOMMANDER the UNSTOPPABLE
DISCIPLINEDCOMMANDER the MASTERFUL
ZENCOMMANDER the OMNISCIENT
POTENTCOMMANDER the VIRILE
ALMIGHTYCOMMANDER the INDOMITABLE
VALORCOMMANDER the DAUNTLESS
IMPERIOUSCOMMANDER the TYRANNICAL
INVICTUSCOMMANDER the IMMORTAL
MAELSTROMCOMMANDER the UNYIELDING STORM
QUAKECOMMANDER the EARTH-SUNDERING
COLOSSUSCOMMANDER the MONUMENTAL
BEHEMOTHCOMMANDER the TITANIC
MONSTERCOMMANDER the TERRIFYING
LORDCOMMANDER the KINGMAKER
DEITYCOMMANDER the OMNIPOTENT
CRIMSONCOMMANDER the LEGENDARY
SUPERNOVACOMMANDER the COSMIC FORCE
GODCOMMANDER THE DESTROYER

THE SUPREME CHAD OF COMMAND
THE GIGACHAD OF G.U.N.
THE MASTER OF MEN
THE KING OF KINGS
THE COMMANDER OF COMMANDERS

ENTER THE GUN CHAD
THE ONE TRUE COMMANDER
THE GOD OF ORDER—


ABRAHAM TOWER.
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>>537394910
The panel in IDW where Sonic holds her hand she blushes actually wasn't in Ian's script. The artist made it up and it still got approved by Sega.
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>>537394841
>GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS
But Archiebros were the only ones keeping the gag alive... :'(((
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If you do not believe that Vanilla and GUN Commander are the next two most important characters for Crossworlds you need to get off of /sthg/
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>>537395367
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>>537394910
I'm pretty sure Sonic Rush is where this ship originated
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Sonic like human women.
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Douge
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HE GOT IN THE FILMS! HE GOT IN ANOTHER ANIMATION! SUCK IT IDWFAGS! HE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR CRYING LESBIANS!
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Tangle!
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I just realized that the fact that the only time Sega ever used the US Sonic CD soundtrack in another game (Forces), it was for an explicitly fake Metal Sonic.

Is it an indirect slight against the gaijin?
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>>537391932
Who is the shy but tough workaholic?
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>>537395438
>Everything in IDW is approved by Sega
Nigga, they just stamped it without care and moved on, a lot of shit happened there doesn't go hand to hand with the games at all.
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>>537394975
I like cream but you are a shifty shady kike coin clipping kike and probably a troon too
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Is it just me or for a racing game, Crossworld is a little more aggresive than MKW? Hell. The trailers feels less like racing and more like "I will break you"
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Tails and Amy should be psuedosiblings while Sonic and Amy fuck
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>>537395921
I think it's a response to the fact that the team mechanic in TSR didn't catch on. So now it's less about co-operation and more about competition
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>>537396038
>Sonic and Amy should be pseudo siblings as they fuck
Ftfy
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Anybody have that one Sonic fangame with the amazing graphics from back in the day? Like 2011.
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>>537395438
>muh Blush the cat
Exactly, and we have many who can do that, doesn't mean Tails is in love with Wave, it's just means some writers are pushing their headcanons, and that always goes well.
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>>537396057
I wish Ian had actually seen the dialogue in the Rivals games and brought that kind of toxicity to CrossWorlds.
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>>537395885
They're talking about Zavok and Lanolin Blazedude.
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>>537395772
Ms. Tangle? More like Ms. Terrible Character.
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>>537396038
Amy is supposed to be psuedosiblings with Cream and that's underdeveloped as is.
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>>537396161
Amy Rose (for visibility)
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>>537396482
>>537396161
Sonic Fan Remix
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>>537395885
Shy but tough workaholic desc works well for Silver
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>>537396161
>>537396482
It was 2D and the only playable stage was Green Hill. The graphics really popped and almost looked 3D.
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>>537396592
Silver is not shy.
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>>537396568
Thanks
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>Sonaze seethe
It's become undeniable that literally everyone except Silvazefags want these characters to be seperated and actually do cool shit with their settings and lore.
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Lanolin
Whisper
Tangle
Tikal
Vanilla
Honey
Bunnie
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>>537396482
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>>537396227
Didnt play Rivals, how toxic we talking about?
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>>537396161
>>537396482
>>537396662
>>537396568
>>537397321
The developer of this demo went on to create a full video game!

https://www.gamepressure.com/games/the-takeover/z759de
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>>537396735
>Amy grabbing his cock
>"what's you name"
>he averts his eyes and puts his arms up
He's pretty shy but not in a goofy standard.
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>>537395712
Cute N Confirmed!
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Sonic
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Sheep Sleep.
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>>537397175
You're fucking with my head, just say ship fags are a disease
Also COOL FUCKING POST!
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*fffzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*
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Can’t shadow move on and still be fond of the memories of Maria? Losing someone will always hurt but you can channel that pain into something good. He may grieve forever, but the grief doesn’t have to define his entire life. He can use the hope she inspired in him to protect the world and find other compatriots as he fulfills his promise.
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Silver
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>>537398032
What? Shadow moving on from Maria to become a happier person?? How am I supposed to fantasize about fucking the black dog while self inserting as a 12 year old child if he's happy???
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>>537397175
Holy shit i forgot to share that, it's fucking cyberpunk city up there and it belongs to Sage while the rest is desert and volcano lairs, fuck sake just give him one level to play as him SIGGA
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>>537397993
I like my Amy with toasted buns.
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>>537397827
Super Sonic
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Shadow
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I AM HORNY
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>>537397175
Im a sulfate fag and I wanna see cool shit done with their lore, have silver explore both the good and ruined futures as he works with his own cast to solve issues in the timestream and such while also occasionally working with blaze., maybe take inspired from Archie and bring in onyx city and that lore. Have blaze go on her own adventures within the soul dimension as she battles pirates and rival kingdoms to protect islands and find treasure to ensure the sol empires survival while once in a while getting silver to help.
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>>537397723
Silver isn't supposed to be shy.
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>>537394575
Hay un Tailsito con..¡¿NUEVE colas?!
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>>537398358
Im busy running rn I’ll be at house in 3 min, go Schlick on my bed for a bit if you want.
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Amy
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Fuckin' hate sex e-larpers can we ban them?
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>>537398376
>sulfate
I meant silvaze FUCK
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Boooring cat
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>>537398564
Is that wade
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Amy Rose
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>>537398686
sulfates are bad for your hair
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>>537398701
Blaze got the boring title instead of Big is funny
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>>537397632
https://youtu.be/ho7dnaqu_Hg?si=8xe4sjAnnxHJNZk4&t=653
Honestly not as bad as I remember. Characters do throw insults at each other more often though.
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Metal
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>>537398434
Hey, baby. I've got your "cola" right here.
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>>537398376
>>537398686
You're an anomaly amongst fans of silvaze
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>>537397723
>>537398378
Silver has been written to be shy because he's young and Trunks but it makes no sense for his character. Silver should be too autistic for impure thoughts. It's a better (and funnier) interpretation of his character he's too naive to get it.
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>>537398616
Blazzzy
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>>537398376
That's what we have now and its turned Silvaze into a disruptive sideshow for both of them.

Rouge has the same stupid problem, Team Dark was a mistake.
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Everythingfag here, I wanna write some silvaze adventures like >>537398376 here but I’m a bit anxious I will get jumped by puristfags.
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>>537399458
It’s mainly because they lack proper characterization and we don’t see their own worlds. If they allowed them to be separate and beyond background characters it would work.
>Rogue has the same problem
How??
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>>537390882
YESSSSS!!! TAILS!!!!!
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>>537399252
This. Every time they try to make him like Trunks it just conflicts with the rest of his character and makes him incoherent.
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>>537399529
hnnnnnnnnnn
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>>537398434
Gattina mia, stella del cielo... i'm actually italian and i don't get shit of what you say half of the time.
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Just make him Trunks and give him the future Archie stuff. Nobody cares if it overwrites what Sonic Team wants as if they had anything planned for him anyway
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Imagine the smell of Shadow's cockipt
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>>537399650
Knuxouge is a SoJ-sanctioned ship but Team Dark changed the focus of her character and the lack of master emerald relevancy removed the basis of Knuxouge. It's only "hey remember how Rouge wants to steal the Master Emerald?". Same with Silvaze. Silver and Blaze can only ever be "hey remember tanabata?" because it's not integrated into her character. The reason Blaze comes to Sonic's world and Sonic to the Sol Dimension in the first place is because the connection between the Sol Emeralds and Chaos Emeralds (and Blaze and Sonic). This is the most important part of her character but it gets ignored.
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"Geez, Amy! I get you think it's something special we found this abandoned swingset, but we have somewhere to be!"
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Will there be more festivals when the full game releases?
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i... I... I BELIEVE IN MAHSELF!!
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>>537401201
I assume so. Too bad they'll be for crossover GARBAGE instead of Sonic stuff

How do those festival missions work?
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>>537400214
¿Italiano, eh? Eso nos convierte en primos lejanos, más o menos. No eres fontanero, ¿verdad? ¡He oído que los fontaneros son sorprendentemente buenos atrapando cosas ¡como chicos zorro de varias colas)!
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見て、テイルス!
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>>537401201
Definitely, I think one of the menus said something about late September, but I wonder if it's really missable content hidden in there. There's some titles and decals (whatever) in the current festival up to 700 points, but there's also a gadget there. Getting to 700 is, depending on your luck, teams and SEGA network problems from 2.5 to 4 hours of playing. Maybe even 5, if your team gets to third place constantly, and the festival lasts only 24 hours.
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I'm gonna fly hiiiiiiigh
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>>537401594
Does this test keep the save data for the final game
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Amy Rose
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Unlike you guys I have no faith to Sega where to add more Sonic characters They would be any worthwhile additions.

Considering how much junk there is and how very simplistic a lot of the other characters are I feel like mods will be able to handle that problem.

Just egg pawn will be really popular on PC
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>>537396214
I mean, Wave flirting with Tails or Sonic with Rouge, just for example, usually just means they are fucking with the other in a personality showdown.
They don't engage in handholding, going to dates or declarations to the other.
Blaze and Sonic flirting with the other has a very strong emotional component because they are actually close, it comes across as the real deal in this case.
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Non sono un idraulico, ma le code ce le ho, grandi e lunghe! Cugina.
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>>537392352
While I have a bit of an attachment to Werehog at this point, it makes me a little sad to think there was probably a beta of Unleashed at some point with other characters exploring the nighttime areas. I'm curious how different the format would have been. Presumably Amy and Knuckles would have been playable at least.
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The transformation gimmick in CrossWorld sucks because it actively discourages using certain gadgets, fucks the item usage up, especially flight.
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>>537400662
I guess thats fair, but I don’t see why blaze can still have that connection and also feel for silver. For god sake Sonic himself ships it in idw
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>>537403743
Emi!
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>>537395396
You ever think about how weird it must be for him to be around blobians? Like imagine walking into your office and Shadow and Rouge are there at fucking midriff height. Even Omega is like a garbage can to him.
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Is SoA retarded
Even wrong
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>>537400214
You should visit Argentina. The one time I passed through on business, I thought everyone was speaking Italian instead of Spanish. It's a lovely flavor, but it gave me a minor headtrip since I didn't expect it.
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Is Commander Tower cool enough to get a mod for Crossworlds? Otherwise I will probably have to pay 600 dollars to get a mod of him.
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>>537403963
blobians are people, too
little people
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>>537404129
>paying for mods
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>>537404424
He's a wealthy microsoft employee.
He has enough money to pay for humanized Amy mods for games that he hordes in his secret HDD stash.
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Happy! ^-^
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>>537404501
No one who posts on sthg is that successful. You all shitpost about Sonic and repeat yourselves.
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>>537404084
I heard argentina has quite a nice italian presence, but i don't know how much, sounds interesting.

Although i'm not a fan of immigration, in italy the biggest immigrant group is romanians and sometimes it doesn't feel like i live in my own nation.
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>>537404802
He literally paid Violet to include human Amy in Sonic Union.
>>537395654
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>>537403974
>Is SoA retarded
Yeah but I don't know what that has to do with the tweet.
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>>537405268
potato
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>>537405412
Classic Tails is more like just a ball
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>>537405164
That they say two separate eyes is the correct way their eyes work
And that they contract trannies
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>>537403743
All for her
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>>537405268
Yup
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>>537401673
I sure hope so. They do say there's unique decals to gain by participating, so we will probably keep everything we got
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>>537405531
He's made of circles, this goofy furball.
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>>537405085
That's called a commission.
Anyone who actually generates real income from fanworks deserves to be shot in the urethra. That's the fast-track to getting IP owners to ruin it for everybody.
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>>537404854
Do they like Sonic in Italy?
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>>537405713
Chubby perfection ^-^
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>>537405913
This fanart literally changed my life
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>>537400662
>blah blah blah

Shadouge is better even also SoJ approved, sega doesn't care about ships unless it makes certain marketable characters popular. Now that Shadow is a market cash cow expect more Shadouge since Knuckles doesn't do big numbers anymore
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>>537405085
No violet paid Sparky
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>>537406117
Hugging Tails' belly!
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I wanna rub his belly too, it's probably very soft and fluffy
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Our ambassador.
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>>537406694
Introducing the new and improved Lemonade Tails.
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>>537405971
Meh, it was always a meh. Even when sonic X hired, everyone watched yu-gi-oh and dragonball way more. Not me, i loved sonic x.

There was a tiny italian sub-culture about sonic on the internet, there was a big sonic themed forum called "shadow legacy", managed i think by a fangirl as founder. Now it is gone, reborn as "sonic legacy" but i don't know the status. They even offered limited italian translation of the archie issues, which was reeeeeally unheard of and treated as obscure media.

Still, the italian sonic community shrinked a lot into almost nothing, they used to be more active a decade ago.
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Sonic but Cyka Blyat
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>>537402518
>as a very strong emotional component because they are actually close
>met 3 times in 20 years, even Sonic met Cream more times.
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>>537403060
Silvaze is wank that insists upon itself and that IDW scene is the worst example of it; the majority of their interactions are telling us "they're in sync because they're the same" or borrowing the ethos of Sonic and Tails, and that scene does both. There's no basis in their characters, so all the writers can do is reiterate "they're in sync". People made up headcanons about 06 that she's from the future in order to give it a basis, but there isn't one; their entire relationship is a tanabata analog and their special connection is metaphysical woo woo.
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>>537406850
[insert name] taps that?!
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>>537407051
>they used to be more active a decade ago
Not by much. It was already nearly non-existent in 2011, based on my experience.
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Sonaze is lame. Only Sonic self inserts like it because they want to project other skater boi slacker fantasies and bag the wealthy badges princess
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>>537407406
Silvaze is just a poor man's Sonails. We're supposed to like their relationship because they're "in sync" which is never elaborated upon or properly explored. Sure the audience can fill in the gaps but Silvaze literally has no material, it's all told and not shown

Meanwhile with Sonails we actually see both characters forming a bond in the game through the manual and end cutscene. It's clear they're trying to copy Sonic and Tails' relationship with Silver and Blaze but it doesn't work because the foundation isn't there
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>>537406213
They hated him because he spoke the truth
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>>537400662
>knuxouge
>SoJ sanctioned
Next you'll say something even more retarded, like "they had dinner in generations"
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>>537407821
I at least like Silvaze when it pulls from the Sonic/Tails dynamics more than whenever they try to repeat Sonic/Blaze with it.

It just feels extra redundant, because if you are doing the whole Tanabata/emeralds thing with Blaze, Sonic is already there.
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Now it's even worse, in 2013 at least i used to have fun with sonic x edits on youtube made by the fans.

Now we all got massacred, social media bullshit drained every niche on earth. Centralization is a nightmare every small youtuber i knew with a bit of soul is gone, replaced by faggots with fake reactions and scripted shows.
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>>537407821
So your complaining about Silvaze because it's not as over utilized as other Sonic ships. We'll that's obvious idiot, Sonic is always in the main focus. ASilver doesn't get a fraction of his development used on anyone but the future stuff.
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>>537408490
I'm not surprised, unfortunately.
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>>537407821
Exactly. It's a tanabata analog and them being in sync is taken for granted. The point of their relationship is to gawk at how in sync they are, feel sad when they're seperated, and then feel happy when they're reunited. It's fine for a one-off like 06 but being a core fixture of thier characters creates the worst writing possible. It's way too high-concept for Sonic.

I'm just really sick of modern Sonic storytelling, man.
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>>537408490
>social media bullshit drained every niche on earth.
I don't think so. Niche communities of autists exist everywhere on YouTube or DeviantArt you just need to find them.

>>537408496
I'm complaining that Silvaze has absolutely no material. We don't even know how they met in the future, or any dialogue of them enjoying each other's presence, or anything
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>>537408680
>I'm just really sick of modern Sonic storytelling
You're sick of the thing we haven't had in 2 decades?
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>Shipping
None of us here respect romance, nor is it important in this series
Best ship is when these two fucks do something horny together
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>>537408571
I'm really sad, but we can't really do anything about that, internet the way we experienced it many years ago feels like a dream lost in a night, and it's not just the american/english side of it. Money and passion created it, money and recession destroyed it.
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>>537408496
He's complaining that it's high-concept shlock. Silvaze isn't meant to be developed, the foundation is that they're in sync.

>>537408196
The entire concept of her character is that she's the negative polar opposite of Sonic from the negative dimension with negative emeralds and negative Eggman. Parallelism with Silver is an implicit erasure of her character, Eggman Nega being from the future is explicit. It's such crap that she gets any parallelism with Silver when it should be with Sonic.
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>>537407051
Fellow pasta anon here, I think this is part of a bigger issue which isn't only limited to Sonic. All the Italian communities that I have seen have shrunk to nothing because most of them got assimilated into the English communities instead. After all, why limit yourself to the Italian language when you can use English instead and get ten times the engagement?
I understand why this has happened (hell I'm the one posting on an American website), but it's still sad to see.
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>>537408875
No, he's right. You're not finding that type of niche community in a country where the series isn't popular.
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Sonic is a pyschopath who prefers being overly satisfied instead being rational with his reasons in having a chaotic lifestyle.

Prove me wrong.
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>>537408875
>Niche communities of autists exist everywhere on YouTube or DeviantArt you just need to find them.
Yes and have to deal with either gay draconian bullshit or non-existent italian communities because they're all decimated. If you want to experience the internet nowdays better learn english and hope it's not unfunny trannies.
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Have you considered that maybe Silvaze would be developed if their story wasn't a draft? Also, there is nothing wrong with focusing on themes either. SA2 is the best written story in the series, and Maekawa in general is amazing and the best writer we've ever had. Underperforming once when everything was against the whole team doesn't make him bad.
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>>537408875
>how they met in the future
It's irrelevant, but based on Otherworldy Comedy they probably just fought Iblis together, realized they're in-sync™ and then Blaze decided that beating Iblis was the point she was summoned there (and then didn't shitstomp him with Burning Blaze which is a massive plothole).
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>>537409662
That psychopath is more successful than you
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>>537409390
Yes like i said, towards the end of my teenage years i just relied more and more on english because everything else was gone. I still miss the fact we used to be bigger, but everything was way bigger in general, like for example i used to open tf2 or other valve server and it was full of good niche shit.
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I like the continuity nods in Frontiers because it treats the series history and character beats with respect instead of irony
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>>537410072
Same, but there are too many of them lol
It's okay if it's just for one game I guess
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9GS36V7r-g
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>>537408868
>they brightened his yellow again
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>>537408490
Not to mention the wokeness and brain rot slang like peak, aura, hype, and banger
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>>537407162
They gave Sonic so much ass.
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>>537409714
>there's nothing wrong focusing on themes
Yes there is it's Hello Kitty for boys and Sonic Team needds to stop peddling this wank and give me cool future and Sol Dimension shit.
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>>537409714
We will continue to critique what they failed to fix for twenty years
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>>537410503
*banging on the TV with a fist* it's speaking some kind of made-up gibberish language again
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>>537409714
>Also, there is nothing wrong with focusing on themes either.
There is a problem when the story is focused entirely on themes with complete disregard to the actual execution of those themes and story structure. Also 06 being rushed doesn't excuse the abysmal ideas they had for the game in the first place. And frankly I don't care about context in this regard. Silvaze as it is sucks, hypothetical scenarios where it doesn't suck are irrelevant. If a group of monkeys team up to make a videogame, the videogame will be trash and I'm allowed to dislike it regardless of the circumstances of it's creation

>SA2 is the best written story in the series, and Maekawa in general is amazing and the best writer we've ever had.
I like SA2 to an extent but Maekawa is kinda mid and I prefer other stories in the series
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>>537410439
Well that comes together with the rest of the progressive shit eating treatment.
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>>537400535
You really think they're gonna do that now they're worried about Shueisha lawsuits?
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>>537410503
Much better.
He's shouldn't be a similar shade of yellow as fucking Yellow Toad.
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Mike Pollock sounds like he's tiring the fuck out
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Kawaii
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>>537410963
He sounds like Martinet's late-stage Luigi.
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>>537409693
I miss those Sonic X and Sonic game music videos like you wouldn't believe. That's when the fandom was its best point in history. It was before all the leftoid zoomers and men alpha kiddies took over it
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Good morning, /sthg/.
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>>537410496
?????
How is Maekawa's writing "Hello Kitty"? You're literally agreeing with me.

>>537410606
>the abysmal ideas they had for the game in the first place
Nope. The ideas are kino.

The game was not made by "monkeys". It was made by at the time struggling game developers who tried their best, who have more knowledge and experience than you, and who also made other games that you love and are passionate about. You should show them some respect and understanding.

>I like SA2 to an extent but Maekawa is kinda mid and I prefer other stories in the series
What are your favorites stories in the series then? SA2 is the peak of the series to most people right now.
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Dove c'è una schifezza, ci sono sempre gli italiani.
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>fake/trolling
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>>537411402
No, Sonic is Hello Kitty for boys. Having serious stories screwed everything up.
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>>537409824
Nah. Hes barely even relevant compared to Nintendo.
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Every other Sonic game after the first has been cut in half, rushed, cut features, etc. but suddenly it's unfair to judge 06 like the others
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>>537412109
Because it's not judged like the others. It's heavily biased against it.
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Needs more Shadouge shitposting.
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>>537411834
SA2 is their greatest accomplishment story-wise if you aren't smoothbrained
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>jobnic
>jobouge
>jobman
>jobver
>jobage
>jobckles
>jobave
>joborm
>job the hawk
>jobails
>jobmy
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>>537412109
>Every other Sonic game after the first has been cut in half, rushed, cut features
SA2 wasn't.
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>>537412125
Sorry sonic, the edge is.... bigger than yours.
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>>537411402
>Nope. The ideas are kino.
Some ideas were interesting but others were really bad like Silver's gameplay or Shadow's vehicles or the loading screens in the middle of stages

Also I wasn't trying to call Sonic Team devs monkeys, I just used that as an allegory for how I don't care about the circumstances and only about the final product. What ifs are irrelevant to me. I understand Sonic Team faced enormous challenges during 06's development but at the end of the day the 06 we got is one of the worst games in the series

>What are your favorites stories in the series then? SA2 is the peak of the series to most people right now.
All Sonic stories have problems but I enjoyed Secret Rings and Rush Adventure more (Secret Rings was written by Maekawa but the director Yojiro Ogawa rewrote most of it). That said again I do like SA2 and I think it's the Sonic story that better utilizes it's cast of characters it's just that it's really sloppily written at times especially at the end
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>>537411707
This would be great
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Why does the game not give an explanation about all the stats?

Apparently power loses less speed when hit with items?
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>>537412478
No actually it sucks. The faker/ ultimate life form themes are incredibly strong and drive the plot but the actual story (conflict between Maria and Gerald internalized by Shadow and then externalized by the Biolizard) has fuckall to do with each other. Maekawa has never written a good story that connects to the themes.
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I have nothing against Silvaze (anymore, used to hate it) but i think Shadaria is better executed tanabata. For those unfamiliar with tanabata, it is a legend in Japan of two lovers, Orihime the weaving princess and Hikoboshi the cowherder. The two are forcibly separated to opposite sides of the milky way and only allowed to meet once a year. Star crossed lovers who were separated by the universe forever but can still see each other again in the right conditions. Both Silvaze and Shadaria have been associated with tanabata in official media. It's a dynamic noticeably favored by women while men don't seem to care as much care about themed romance or romantic tragedy
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>>537413264
Most art forms in video game media had a plethora of holes in them.

SA2 is so exception. Still, there are basic mathematics in the game that make it tantalizing at the least. Again, if you aren't a smoothbrain,
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>>537413264
>utterly retarded opinion

This is why crack makes you wack
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>>537413264
>a story can't have more than one theme or narrative
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Rape is BASED
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>>537413718
t. sonic
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t. Amy
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You almost need a PS5 to play a lot of Sonic fangames.

https://youtu.be/K3d1SrcDYCM?si=hGIt7G8OsUQcCbs9
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Apotos feels like a hard and messy track.

>>537412772
There is nothing inherently wrong with those ideas. Vehicles were also in the Adventure games and Generations, by the way.

>loading screens in the middle of stages
That's not an idea. That's just a technicality. Sonic Adventure does it too and no one ever took issue with it. The loading screens aren't meant to last long, and they don't depending on the hardware.

>the 06 we got is one of the worst games in the series
This is a bullshit mind virus. There is more to a game than its technical aspects. Please play more games. If this is one of the worst Sonic games you've played, then you haven't seen much of what the series has to offer.
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Crossworlds has a massive discount.

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1962170063005340097
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>>537413264
The theme is people abusing power, which was a general theme of the Sonic series since Sonic 1. SA2 ties its themes perfectly.
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>>537414037
Wtf I never knew about this
Look how happy Shadow is
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>>537414509
This picture alone shows half of the reasons why I don't like these movies
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What kind of father is Sonic?
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>>537415136
This isn't real...
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>>537413956
This is another Dreams game?

The part that rubs me the wrong way is needing to keep an online subscription to play Dreams games even if you otherwise don't play online games.
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What Sonic/SEGA characters do you want to see in Crossworlds? For me it's
>Majima
>Mephiles
>40 thousand types of Tails
>John Total War
No Football Manager this time tho, I don't want one. And no Danica Patrick please, and I don't want the cartoony fat ginger guy from whatever game who was released in Transformed long after nobody was playing it because of horrible netcode, anyway
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>>537416116
Axel from Crazy Taxi, though I would accept any of the original 4 (preferably not BD Joe, let someone else have a chance)
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>>537416116
>40 thousand types of Tails
Honey...
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how we likin crossworlds so far
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>>537416384
Yeah, I think I'm ready AND willing
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>>537415136
Not married, another kid who's never home.
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>>537416370
It's great, outclasses World, but the netcode test is really far away from the release date. 3 weeks basically. The game's almost perfectly stable, but the network code error could be improved, it sometimes happens
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>>537416384
Sonic and evil Sonic fucked this, Tails watched
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Imagine if Silver finally gets own year with heavy focus on him and they still make it about Shadow.
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>>537417010
-jobbing to Silver
Yeah it would be funny for everyone
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You think bringing back one guy is going to fix everything? They brought back RTD, the guy everyone credited for making Doctor Who good again, and it's the worst it's ever been. The ratings are in the toilet, the writing is for literal toddlers, and it's so woke that it's alienating everyone. Even trannies.

You think things would be different if Maekawa came back to write?. You think SEGA would just let him do his thing? No. They'd force him to work with the same IDW tumblrina writers and appeal to the same fujoshis who bankrupt themselves buying Sonic and Shadow merch. He'd be forced to write their shitty donut steel OCs and turn every character into a joke.

It's not the writer, it's the company. SEGA is the problem. Bringing back one good writer won't change the fact that the entire corporate culture is rotten. It would be the exact same slop we get from Flynn, just with a different name on it to give you fuckers a reason to give them the benefit of the doubt that they'll abuse to scam you and delude you all with a false sense of hope.

Ian Flynn and Maekawa both don't like Sonic.
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>>537417421
I ain't readin all that
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1006 is adventure 3
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>>537417473
Basically Maekawa will suck if the direction of higher ups (even Kishimoto) do not change.
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>>537417421
There are significantly bigger issues with Sonic than the writing
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>Referencing a song thats all about loving Sonic affectionately with dreamlike romance in a era where Iann and co is trying their hardest to take that charm away, and instead make her a soulless repetition of "GIRLBOSS SLAY WHO DONT NEED NO MANS".
What is the optics of this besides being a reference for the sake of the reference? I don't know what's worse, using this song as a reference specifically or Sonic still calling Shadow a faker as if we are eternally trapped in the early 2000s. Are we genuinely stuck with this shit for another 10 years?
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>>537414491
because adventure came out 7 years prior to 06 which came out the same year as mario galaxy the standards were different
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>>537417086
Only if Ian writes it
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>>537417767
We will all get old and die long before they figure out how to "fix" Sonic.
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>>537418758
The meta era fixed sonic but we are not ready for that conversation
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>>537419026
We will never be ready for that conversation because it’s objectively false. 06 may be infamous, but the meta era and all the appeasing to critics shit nearly made them go broke
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>>537418312
If you're talking about the loading screens, no, that's not the reason. It's because Sonic Adventure's loading screens are quick.
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>>537419026
Nta, but I think that era is shit. However, Iann isn't much better than the self-humilation ritual Aaron Webber put his through with all these constant references as if the series hinges on it for its story, world building, and character interactions. If its subtle nods to game events and what not, fine. But when you're being beaten to death with references on the dot with lyrics and what not, it starts to feel like nostalgia baiting. Which considering the Year of Shadow was 80% SA2 nostalgia pandering to buy back goodwill from Adventure era fags, im not surprised.
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>>537417421
>They brought back RTD, the guy everyone credited for making Doctor Who good again, and it's the worst it's ever been
Enlighten us further
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I keep seeing this spammed.

Can somebody tell me what this is?
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>>537417612
>Sonic 1006
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>>537414670
No the theme is "look how cool my OC is"
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>>537419854
That's literally every Sonic game too.
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>>537419326
Wrong. Colors did great financially and so did generations.
What 'killed' Sonic was the fact that the Wii U was a flop of a console and SEGA was making ballsy business moves off the gangbusters Colors sold and thought that tying Sonic closer to Nintendo would save the franchise. Instead, it killed the games' success.

It also did not help that children's video games were simply not selling well in the early tens at large for a variety of factors.

Minecraft's success actually really hurt Sonic since there was a period of time where children would play Minecraft and nothing else throughout the tens.

Minecraft fatigue and fortnite fatigue have allowed there to be a bigger market for video games targetting children.

The movies and new market opportunities saved Sonic.

As did Sonic.exe, friday night funkin, and Roblox making Sonic 'cool' with children again.

Content farm slop and the films saved Sonic but we aren't ready to have that conversation since the majority of people here are Adventurebabies who'd rather fellatio Maekawa than admit that this is a franchise for children and its success has little to do with their wants or the whims of Archie alumni.
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>>537419786
ABT is now selling official Lanolin porn at the cons
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>>537420030
so is he our guy now
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>>537419786
Looks like a doujin
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>>537420030
Pimping his daughter???
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>>537419987
Lost World and Boom weren't going to sell on more popular hardware either. Boom had TWO games on the 3DS, the most popular console at the time, especially with kids, and NOBODY played them. EVER. Nobody cares about the Boom games.
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>>537414494
>around $65 for everything
Got it, thanks.
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>>537419854
This is a retarded reduction to induce with SA2's story considering this has been thing people used to strawman since CD.
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>>537414670
You're looking at the vaguest of similarities between the classic games and SA2 to pretend SA2 fits in with the previous games
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>>537419545
Massive nostalgia pandering, companions getting shafted, forced melodrama, and a dumbing down of themes.
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>>537414494
Doesn't work for me, it says 104 USD on the site
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>>537420078
Always has been
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>>537420245
It's not vague at all. The themes of SA2 are the same as the classics. It only appears different on the surface because it focuses on human society instead of Sonic vs Eggman in a desolated island. The themes are still the exact same, SA2 simply elaborated a complex around them.
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>>537420030
is this actually fucking real?
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>>537417421
I've been talking about how Sonic Team is making it so that the Japanese and English scripts are very different, which is outrageous. Ian is just a glorified localizer. His only purpose is to insert lesbians, girlbosses, and gratuitous references into the games. The only reason he's still working for peanuts as a freelancer is to keep the FARTchie fanboys happy. He's totally useless and toxic to the Sonic franchise. He deserves to be fired
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>>537420459
If wario's code doesnt work, try LABOR25
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>>537414670
Genuine question, where do the themes of abusing power show up in SA2?
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>"Up, over and gone"
kill Ian Flynn holy cringe that line means nothing to people nowadays most won't even know where it's from
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>>537420194
I love how surreal Sonic CD loojs
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>>537420710
*a complex narrative around them.
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Whoever keeps suggesting Dr. Who writing is ignoring the fact that Sonic writing has never been similar to Dr. Who. Just the overall plots and basic concepts. The way the characters discuss things in Dr. Who in actual dialogue is not much better than Ian's own writing.
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>>537420710
Shadow being a lazy rehash of Metal Sonic's thing of being an artificial counterpart to Sonic isn't expanding on the themes of the classic games. And beyond this lazy rehash, SA2 has literally nothing tying it to the previous games thematically wise.
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>>537419987
It made perfect sense that SEGA went Nintendo exclusive as Sonic sold best on that platform and its engineers knew the platform the best.

EVERY misstep Sonic had since leaving the Dreamcast would have been solved if Sonic never left Nintendo.

>Sonic Heroes
Iizuka would not feel the need to pander as hard to new fans. Sonic Team had already moved its Dreamcast specific tools over to the GameCube and Xbox. The PS2 was a nightmare to develop for and required licensing Renderware.

>Sonic 2006
Since there was no need to split the dev team the entire team could work on a game for the Wii

>Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric
Would always be developed with the Wii U in mind, thus no engine difficulties.
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>>537419854
No that was the theme of Shad05 and Shadow's story in 06's.

That was only the subtext of SA2.
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Sonic should be black and Eggman should be an evil cotton plantation magnate with aa whip
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>>537420762
>He deserves to be fired
...out of a cannon, into the sun.
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>>537420913
Gerald trying to use Shadow for his own revenge instead of Shadow's originally intended purpose.

>>537421184
It builds on Echidna lore by tying it to current human society, and Shadow gives a solid connection to both the ancient legends and the present society. Metal Sonic is a similar character with a different theme.
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>>537420762
but who to replace him?
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>>537421169
Are you pointing out how the stories have lots of exposition? That is a problem with newer Who especially Moffat era.

The classic era still had this but given the story structure it was a shorter part of the run time. Also Sonic as a character is much more action than talk, the Doctor is closer to Tails who is like balanced in this regard.
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>>537421338
buckbreaking sonic
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>>537421130
Sonic CD is probably the best of the classic entries in terms of the vibe and style. I really miss it a fuckton and I wish Mania replicated it.
>>537421184
Nta but I wouldn't say its a lazy rehash. There's things going for Shadow in a narrative sense given the nature of the story. Metal is more straightforward in that regard. I wouldn't directly say that SA2 still follows the theme of nature vs industrialization (maybe if you take Gerald being a fucking lunatic into account and Maria's death motivating Shadow) but I wouldn't say that Shadow "rehashes" Metal Sonic. Especially since Metal is more meant for that dopplerganger role meanwhile Shadow still exists as his own character and really only the marketing and like, 2 instances of the game took that aspect seriously.
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Shadow has the best feeling ass
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>>537420762
Did you learn about the latest discrepancy with Crossworlds and prize money?
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>>537420913
Gerald creating the Biolizard but it rampages out of control
The Faustian deal Gerald made with Black Doom to create the Ultimate Lifeform
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>>537421923
how? all of the boys have the same stick legs and no ass
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>>537421698
>Am tellin' ya, that hog's a fine buck and a voluptuous one.
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>>537420762
>Ian is just a glorified localizer.
It's an insult to localization. If you're not a translator, get the FUCK out of their spaces. Selfish writers only make the case for A.I. to replace us.
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The state of Amyfags having to live with this is so hysterical.
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I think this is the first time I get first place in an online race in this game

>>537417421
There are other factors, but having a good main writer is one of them. Blade of Courage is great and that's most likely thanks to the one guy who wrote it. Bringing Maekawa back isn't a guarantee, but it would be good nonetheless
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>>537421923
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>>537421589
SA1 already tied humans to Echidnas via the Mystic Ruins

Also Angel Island was meant to be an isolated place up until S3&K so how the hell did Gerald even find out about that place
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>>537421602
Eitaro Toyoda, but before that, some things have to change. Vault the crying lesbians, the gay birds, and the jester from IDW and put the SOA staff on a tight leash. No more Steven Universe-ification and Tumblr-ification of Sonic.
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>>537422209
Ian's going to get fucking shot at some point, those Amyfags are crazy
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>>537422302
>how the hell did Gerald even find out about that place
Someone didn't consume the Gerald Journal...
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>>537422561
Would be cool if that information was actually in SA2
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>>537422162
cute bun
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>>537421927
Yes. This is a blight on the games
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>>537420030
Does he OWN Lanolin?
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>>537422871
He created her but legally belongs to Sega
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>>537422302
It didn't. Humans in SA1 are a background element, the narrative of power abuse is still limited to the past and Eggman like in the classics. SA2 expands the themes to human society in general, and parallels it with the Echidnas, while also establishing a parallel between Sonic (natural) and Shadow (artificial) and connecting it to the already established lore, expanding the worldbuilding in what is to this day the most beloved and influential story in the series.

By studying and researching the subject. Obviously. He is a crazy scientist researching immortality, and his research naturally lead him to ancient societies and legends.
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SONIC IS FREE LIKE THE WIND
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>>537421927
wtf!
Was the no-money thing artificially manufactured by communists or what?
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>>537422931
every girl should have fat tits
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>>537422694
We live in an era of story telling where we have to retroactively connect the dots for the sake of lore. So this was inevitable. I think this journal does a lot to add more meat to SA2's story, so in this instance I'll concede and say this was a really nice touch to Shadgens.
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>>537419786
I respect it but I can't imagine anyone buying this in person.
I'm sure someone WILL, I just don't want to imagine it because they'd likely be a fat greasy dude.
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>>537422931
Christ i want to suck amy's neck so bad like a vampire bat.
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>>537423262
Eggman already represents humanity's greed by himself, there's no reason for GUN or the Ark incident to even happen because we already knew humans can be assholes since the first game. And again Shadow being artificial is not adding anything because we already had Metal Sonic
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Vanilla is so lucky.
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>>537421338
Bro your Knuckles?
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>>537406850
Yes, she prefers red echidnas
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>>537422209
The only line I like where she's blind and mixes up the hogboys
Everything else is so cringe it's better if she didn't speak
>>537423287
Even Blaze?
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>>537424009
Gerald and GUN explore different angles compared to Eggman. Shadow and Metal Sonic have completely different themes. I also don't understand your obsession with needing to add new information, when the whole point is that SA2 explores the same themes as the classics. It simply does so from a different angle, which is perfect for a new game that continues the series. There is literally nothing wrong with this. There is no disconnect. It's perfect.
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>>537424315
even cream
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>>537424275
Add her to the list
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>knothole
>knot hole
>knot the hole?
>knot... IN the hole??
>nah it can't be, i'm sure the original creators had something else in mind
>knothole... knothole...
>goddamn boomers
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>>537421923
Imagine how tight Shadow would be with his tense virgin body. How much can the Ultimate Lifeform take?
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>>537424009
Metal Sonic did not initally come with the same kind of framing as Shadow
Shadow is biological and just like Sonic, but he uses air shoes and whatever pragmatic means necessary to win (use of tech and weapons)
Metal is also irredeemable, unlike Shadow
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>>537424793
Yes Sally would sexually assault Tails regularly
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If Sage considers Shadow her cousin, then what does Metal mean to Shadow?
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>>537424793
It refers to a hole in a tree because the village is accessed through a hole in a tree in both SatAM and Mr. Gallagher's run on early Archie.
Get your head out of the gutter, Mr. Tails.
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>>537422042
Didn't Gerald program the Biolizard to destroy Sonic's World?

> Faustian deal
Faustian deals aren't thematically about abusing power, they're about taking questionable shortcuts to get power. And was Black Doom in SA2? I always thought he was an Iizuka Retcon™.
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>>537420736
No
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>>537424346
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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>>537424991
>Yes, Sally would [headcanon]
Here's your (You), Mr. Anon.
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>>537424793
stupid porn addict
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Adventure babies got too comfortable.
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>>537425061
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ONE AND TWO AND THREE HEE HEE
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>>537403974
GiGi is a Mind Broken Troon who decided to go off the deep end once her husband passed. Its sad to see but frankly she needs to be kept far away from this brand
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>>537421589
Isn't there a sizable amount of evidence that, at least at the time of SA2, the idea was Shadow was made by Gerald on Prison Island for GUN after getting arrested, and that the "Shadow" released 50 years ago by Maria was lost with another pod? Or was that a X/Iizuka Retcon™.

Shadow is a really confusing character.
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>>537425595
Thank god these "content creators" have been thrown into the trash as people have come to realise Sonic's friends were always cool
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>>537425778
one and two one one one and two one one one and two and three hee hee!
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gdi
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>>537425595
Don't worry they're already becoming increasingly more irrelevant

https://youtu.be/bX2VFru5K8c?si=pIh0-6Ol2lZopV2m
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Is shadow depressed?
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>>537425861
Ship of Theseus, the Character
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>>537421090
In Japanese the line is "Let's Race Again Anytime!"
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>>537425759
>Metal sacrificing his body so that Shadow can get back to where he needs to be, in the same story where Rouge effectively backstabs him even after the talk in 06.
Rivals 2 was insane for this.
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That voice acting when Amy says "inside outside through the stratosphere" is actually so god awful I felt like my soul was being sucked out listening to it.
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>>537425997
boy wanted to join his girl
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>>537425936
Except Silver
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>bestie
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man I hope this game does well because I really want them to add riders skins to the game, the hover boards are really fun to use the only problems I face are when I end up in a cluster
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>>537426181
When even the voice actors are fucking sick and tired of song lyric dialogue.
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>>537403974
>Gigi the scat loving troon
UUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH......
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>>537426295
beat the allegations? nay
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>>537426303
Reposting this from the older thread, but the customization is dope. Was able to make the Hue Hue hover board after some tinkering.
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>>537425861
Gerald probably thought that the Shadow aboard the Ark was a virgin so he reprogrammed him to become a chad
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If today I stand here as a revolutionary, it is as a revolutionary against the revolution.
>>537425936
No, silver is a lame faggot and you (You) will be bullied for liking him.
Some of Sonic's friends are acceptable, others are cast filler that deserve to be spat upon and bullied.
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>>537426374
I gaave a puke fetish
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>>537426554
Silver is only lame because Sega allowed him to be uwu'ified by Evan and made no attempt to correct her.
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>>537426809
06 Silver is lame too. 06 is the lamest Sonic game ever made and it's because it's filled with weeaboo garbage.
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>>537425797
Don't forget that she recommended a book with sexually explicit illustrations in one of the IDW comics
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>>537425797
Wait that was HER? Damn.
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Sonic makes a pirate joke in the Japanese script on the stage kraken bay this is a generic line in English.

Japanese: Haha, Hard to Starboard
English: Never thought I'd see this again.
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>>537425861
Yeah that's what's implied by the SA2 Japanese guidebook for the Dreamcast version.

The idea was that the Shadow we play as in SA2 was a fake created by Gerald and he would die at the end. However the original Shadow would eventually be brought back in Shadow 05, while completely skipping Heroes and Battle. But Shadow proved too popular so they rushed his return and they tried to savage the idea of having more than one Shadow with the Shadow androids, only for that to not amount to much by the time his game came out
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>>537426907
oh yeah no idk how she became a pedophile after her husband died but its ridiculous
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>>537426015
Lmao, no that's Sonic
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I just realized Knuckles is a lot like Elmer Fudd
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>>537426676
>Best drawfag on sthg
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>>537426554
God her head is so fucking big compared to the rest of her body.
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>>537427015
She's not a pedophile and that's a bold accusation.
Listing one's favorite graphic novella in a QnA isn't her fault. It's not like she's been caught DMing minors or anything of the sort.
The editors at IDW should've caught that.
The fact they didn't care is everything wrong with the comic.
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>>537425861
There's evidence via guidebook/JapX that there were supposed to be two Shadows (probably so they can bring him back by claiming the SA2 one who died was a fake). Then this was changed in Heroes so that the Shadow in that game might be an Android. But Battle didn't coordinate any of this and presumed he was the real Shadow so Shad05 went fuck-it and made him the one real Shadow all along.
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>>537427083
Ackchually who would that be? I've always wanted to be fwa.
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tailstroon is a great artist!
>laughs at his shit art anonymously
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>>537426980
Do you think the "real" Shadow would have had a different design from the Prison Island Shadow, if ST didn't change their plans?
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>>537427473
There is no evidence that Violet even drew that piece of Sonic art besides you wanting it to be true.
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HE HAS NO STYLE
HE'S GOT NO GOOD GAMES
THIS HEDGEHOG IS A FUCKING DISGRACE
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Gigi is the rare person who actually does better outside of Sonic. I legitimately do not think they are much of a Sonic fan, if you look at their history they did not play the games for years or watch X. I think they had a slightly hardcore interest in Sonic and that comic they made blew up.

>>537427171
Yeah this. Their editors have usually no industry experience.
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>>537426676
This drawing deserves to be on the shitboard
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>>537427604
you make a Sonic game then
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>>537427473
They do not seem to be an artist but a writer or at least that is what it seems.

Like Sparky they post rants all day and I want to see their writing.
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>>537427061
I heard in portuguese they give knuckles a speech impediment to indicate he has so little social contact to the point cannot speak properly
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>>537426374
>scat loving
You're thinking of Jennifer Hernandez. Gigi is one the that promotes gender queer.
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>>537427662
I can't make video games but I can recommend a good "Sonic" game, if by Sonic you think of fast and rewarding platforming with cute characters.
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>>537427801
>I want to read anon's garbage
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>>537427061
Maybe Modern Knuckles, Classic Knuckles is too smart.

Sonic's Elmer Fudd is Fang
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JAPAN ADDED FORTUNE CARD SHIT

English: "Victory so sweet, I gotta savor it."

Japanese: "My fortune for today is the best~"
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>>537427923
Kek great ladies we've got working on these comics
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Man, Eggman is complete shit tier like goddamn Knuckles might be even worse I haven't seen him at all online it's all Joker, Shadow, Sonic, Cream, Amy and Zaxx I'm running into
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>>537427515
Honestly it's actually possible since there's this artwork featured in Sonic Origin's gallery made by Iizuka that has this stylized version of Sonic whose quills obviously served as inspiration for Shadow's design. So maybe they already had a design for SA2 Shadow fully complete and Terios was just the original Shadow from the Ark

That said it's unlikely that's the case because Sonic and Shadow are still seen as similar in SA2 and Terios is even more similar to Sonic which implies that Terios was originally the gameplay design before the switched to the design based on Iizuka's artwork
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>>537427937
They understand Sonic well enough.
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>>537428108
Is this real??? It's cute. Are Iizuka's commissions open?
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>>537428067
So no matter the lanugage we're stuck in shit, I blame this on Ian too god damn get him out of this franchise bring back the guys that scared Sega away from SONICS SHITTY FRIENDS again so fucking tired of this shit

by the way stop using the spin gadget if you're on a board IT DOESNT FUCKING HELP YOU
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>>537428067
Erm, anon when Japan does something you are OBLIGATED to praise it.You don't want Ian to win do you?
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>>537428282
He made that in like 1997 or so
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>>537426295
Amyfags will never best the beatie allegations.
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>>537428067
IIIAAAANNN
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>>537428454
It's Ian's franchise now, bitch /s
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>>537428067
This is Ian's fault. Now japs are unironically reference shilling too, we are fucked.
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>SoA's side of the brand has been infiltrated by literal pedophilic troons, scat and diaper fetishists, a head writer who literally does not understand how to write the franchise and an obese canuck who is more interested in inserting politics and lesbianism in the franchise than actually writing the characters.

I am genuinely at a complete loss of words here. Like what do you even do to fix this shit at this point outside of literally liquidating and dismantling SoA entirely and blacklisting these people? This is why this franchise should have NEVER hired fans. I would take another decade of Pontaff than have these types of people involved with internal affairs.
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>>537428626
For fucks sake the Japanese are the ones that have Amy fortune card based abilities in Frontiers
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>>537425254
Out of arguments, I see.
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>>537427923
Yes and one who loves shilling a scat pissing book.
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Sonic's characterization in sa1 and sa2 ARE different
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>>537428674
You are just mad it isn't YOU changing the face of Sonic.
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Watching jap purists slowly losing their mind as SoJ adopts more and more of the western canon is hilarious. It's going to become exponentially harder to say western shit isn't canon when SoJ directly lifts and borrows from it.
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>>537428067
Japan literally invented Amy's fortune cards.
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>>537427392
fwa, alota and espioyume are the top 3 drawfags in my opinion
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>>537428709
Well you see, fellow Anon. The Japs were reminded of the tarots because of Ian shills memerized by his brilliant story telling, yelled from heaven and back of how masterful his referencing is. Enough to bring such a subtle, yet cute hobby Amy had in the foreground awarded to those who cared about the lore, to being a obnoxious tabloid that has to be beaten into your head whenever you think about Amy as a character. Still his fault btw.
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>>537428886
This notion that Sonic has been written consistently since 1991 is by far the worst and most harmful meme perpetuated by this place.
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>>537428674
>Like what do you even do to fix this shit at this point outside of literally liquidating and dismantling SoA entirely and blacklisting these people?
Liquidating and dismantling SoA entirely and blacklisting these people.

Also, hiring japanese mangakas only.
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>>537428918
There is no reason why any of these people should be allowed to work with this franchise in any official capacity. We are talking about Slashy levels of autism and intelligence here.
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>I'MMA BEAT YOU SO BAD
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>>537429179
Its okay anon, I'm sure one of your other dreams will come true
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>>537428886
Wrong.

>>537429069
It is mostly consistent, at least in Japanese.
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Why do Sonic and Surge fight like this?
I think the artists want people to ship them. Sonic is never this physical with Shadow or Knuckles except for humor reasons. With Surge he is always in her personal space.
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>>537429446
>It is mostly consistent, at least in Japanese.
No it isn't.
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>>537429297
>I'MMA FIGHT YOU SO HARD
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>>537428512
Is there any confirmation when or why Iizuka made this sketch?

>>537428282
I unironically like it, it's a really charming style.
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>>537429297
This game made me like storm 10 times more
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JP PURISTS YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS NOW!

From K.T.E.
English: Hmph! Shake off the cold!
Japanese (relocalized): It's cold like Ice Cap...

English: Meh. I can handle it!
Japanese It's hot like Sandopolis...
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>I’ve dreamt of this absolution
Keeeeeeeeek they actually put that one Sonic Generations parody line in the game
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Why is there so much lying and shitposting against SA2 specifically these past couple of days?
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>>537429693
Nope it's a complete mystery

An anon posted a tweet by Oshima saying Iizuka drew it but we don't know the details
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>>537429179
Slashy's intelligence differs depending on the day. It is completely inconsistent.

Real people are not written like Sonic characters.
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>>537429446
Modern Sonic's iconic "Nike smile" was never done by Classic Sonic.
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>>537430210
It's literally just art of him smiling.
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>>537430210
Even during the classic era different artists would portray Sonic in different ways. Though it did remain fairly consistent up until 2010. Colors really was a pretty big shift. Before 2010 there were differences but they weren't as drastic
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Here are some Japanese exclusive references!

Original English: "Chao Park! Chao Park! CHAO PARK!"
Relocalized Japanese: "Wow~ I want to play a whole bunch with Cheese and Chocola!"

Original English: "This reminds me of the islands back home!"
Relocalized Japanese: "I wonder if Marine is doing okay."
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>>537430682
MARINE!!!
Is this real?
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Sonic's Japanese characterization is not consistent. Sa2 plays up the skater bro jock shit that had only been seen in western cartoons before then. None of that snark was in sa1. Shadow's presence made Sonic a bubblier goofier character when before that HE was the tough and reserved one.
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>>537429486
>Sonic is never this physical with Shadow or Knuckles except for humor reasons.

With Knuckles yeah, but not Shadow. Wtf?
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>>537424096
wait how does this make sense
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>>537428282
>>537429693(me)
I don't know if these storyboards were drawn by Iizuka(or if they are even genuine), but the Sonic featured in them looks pretty similar to how he sketches him, with his nose coming out the side of his head. It's a really charming style.
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Sonic literally never laughs in any game before Shadow the Hedgehog. The second to last Sonic game with involvement from his creator. Sonic laughing is a late stage character change brought on by Iizuka and Maekawa. Sonic isn't a guy who giggles at things.

Go ahead and check yourself. He never laughs before Shadow the Hedgehog. That's fifteen years of games with no laughter.
Shadow has more scenes with laughter than Sonic before 06
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>>537427923
Isn't Jen Hernandez the Merasmus looking one
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>>537430863
Check for yourself
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>>537431036
Shipfag mentality, prease understand.
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>>537430892
>Shadow's presence made Sonic a [headcanon]
Sonic has always been like that
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>>537431018
I think Sonic loves competition more than he likes people themselves.
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>>537430892
Sonic was always a cartoon goofy character
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>>537429751
All the Rogues are great in Crossworlds, it just makes you wish this was a Riders game instead even more.
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Sonic doesn't laugh
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>>537429014
I agree, I also liked metalyume
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I am an unhappy man
I was made with no purpose beyond just to satisfy
the tireless thoughts of these autistic minds.
But what went wrong? They started tearing me apart
My creator nearly stopped his heart for mine
Was I ever enough to be loved in their eyes? (loved in their eyes)
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>>537430682
so let me get this straight, when Japan does it the references are okay????
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>>537431243
no i meant the pic
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Why do sonicfags think Sonic was a serious edgelord at sometime before Shadow? they think Sonic used to be like Dante from DMC.
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>this reminds me of
>this is just like
>for sure it's not like
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>>537431656
Sonic literally never said anything goofy before Shadow showed up
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>>537431656
Which Dante? DMC1 Dante, DMC2 Dante, DMC 3 Dante, or DMC4/5 Dante?
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>>537426676
Every time I see this image I feel the urge to scribble on my phone
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>>537431656
To be fair some artists like Yamaguchi and whoever directed the Sonic CD cutscenes did portray Sonic as kind of a high school delinquent
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>>537431148
I think those storyboards were drawn by Ohshima. Sonic Retro credits them to both Ohshima and Hoshino though.
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>>537431575
>>537429786
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>>537431903
Sonic was always serious. Classic Sonic being an uwubabby is a Generations invention from 2011. The Origins animations do not fit with the original CD animations at all. Sonic Adventure 2 is more in line with classic Sonic than any of the "Classic Sonic" material since 2011.
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>>537430632
Different smiles convey different characterization,
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>>537432102
For >>537431656
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>>537431910
Cool, thanks for the clarification.
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>>537431901
Colored? Nice
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Sonic is just "generic cool teenager boy who saves the world".

That is all, everything else is mental mansturbation.
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I think Sonic should never be seen as silly. He should always be cool. He can do silly things but Sonic is supposed to be impressive and cool.
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>>537432102
>>537432557
None of you guys actually like Sonic, you like your own made up version of Sonic in your head.
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>>537432445
He's supposed to be the wind that inspires others
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>>537432102
Again, Sonic was always a cartoon character. He is serious and focused and cool but he can also take part on cartoony antics

Then again that's how Oshima saw Sonic. That doesn't make Sonic uncool or unserious but trying to remove any of the more goofy aspects of the character is something that other artists/writers did over the years. But despite the changes the core character remained fairly consistent. I'll say though the surfer bro stuff is something Maekawa invented, I agree with you
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>>537430664
>>537430664
Both Modern and Classic Sonic had consistent but distinct ranges of emotions they displayed in their promotional art.
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>>537421602
Yuki Imada.
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If Sonic is supposed to be inspiring, why doesn't he inspire Surge?
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>>537432696
I like Sonic. I don't mind Classic Sonic. I am enjoying CrossWorlds as we speak, I am posting during matchmaking.

>>537432797
>That doesn't make Sonic uncool or unserious
Classic Sonic does.

>the surfer bro stuff is something Maekawa invented
?
Why wouldn't Sonic like surfing?
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>>537432385
Yeah. Idk. I want to pick drawing back up again but have felt demoralized.
>>537432445
There's something special about Sonic. He's referred to as a god in Classic concepts so ST definitely saw him as something more
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>i think sonic should be always an arrogant cocky monolith
>what the fuck, why nobody likes sonic? why shadow sells more?
Do you even listen to yourself?
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>>537431757
sonic literally never said anything before SA1. nobody did unless you want to count aosth, SatAM and Archie

>>537432102
SA2 Sonic was still snarky. They did not "uwufy" Sonic because of Shadow. If he was supposed to be as serious and to the point as you claim, they would be having a Dante and Vergil dynamic like in DMC 3. I think Sonic was always meant to be like that, see SatAM, OVA, X and now the movies. don't be fooled by the couple few moments were he is forced to be serious vs being serious by instinct

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6W6jhGL8Ow
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>>537422209
Ian's dialog is so incredibly shallow. It's like it's written by someone who only has second-hand information of the franchise by constantly reminding you of previous things instead of saying anything new because they don't care about the series enough to be creative.
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>>537433318
>They did not "uwufy" Sonic because of Shadow.
I agree with you on this. I didn't realize I gave the impression I was arguing against that point, sorry. The uwufication happened in the 2010s, particularly with Classic Sonic. It has nothing to do with Shadow, I agree.

>sonic literally never said anything before SA1
Sonic talks in-game in CD. He also talks in the Japanese manuals.
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Whisper is not a purebred wolf. Wolves don't have chests. It's the biggest difference between wolves and their domestic kin.
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>>537426554
Silver is more popular than Sally statistics showed.
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>>537433318
>Sonic literally never said anything before SA1
https://youtu.be/7r4Cfv-1mdg?si=mSViK8VURga0xw_-
https://youtu.be/9Rvpc77U9Do?si=Wv-l90BqgGbeC6Tw&t=56

>But thats's SegaSonic!
https://youtu.be/48_S5WpHIXE?si=bLAOK70q520MzMv5
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>>537433332
My theory is Ian has some sort of mild disorder, maybe autism, it would explain the obsession with references and his inability to write something emotionally moving
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>>537428067
Maybe its just because I'm still caught up on Ian's lyrical references, but I genuinely don't know if I care about this. The problem with Tarot Cards was the it was being made into her new thing in place of her love for Sonic. Japan hasn't changed her feelings for Sonic, so the cards don't bug me as much.
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>>537433042
>Classic Sonic does.
Does... What? I don't understand

Does Classic Sonic make Sonic uncool or unserious?

>Why wouldn't Sonic like surfing?
I'm not literally talking about surfing. I'm talking about the surfer bro archetype of being "2 kool 4 skool" which frankly isn't even a big deal to me
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>>537432983
Because Sonic is super out of character in IDW.
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>>537434017
All of the song lyric references were removed from the Japanese version. As well as the references to older cartoons.
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>>537433942
>My theory is Ian has some sort of mild disorder, maybe autism,
Pot calling the kettle black I see
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>>537433652
>>537433864
Sonic's "oomf" sfx does not count. there isn't much going on in the manuals neither it's just the characters introducing themselves. come back if there's a sonic theatrical play in the manuals.
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Ames
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>>537431575
They don't do them constantly like Ian. But it seems like Ian is poisoning the well so bad that references of any kind are going to be met with zero tolerance.
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>>537431656
I wish Sonic was Dante man
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>>537434243
Doesn't one of the manual refers to the characters as "actors"
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Tails!
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Shadowfags want to ruin Sonic and turn him into shit like Sonic Prime. Just look at how he acts in Shadow's game.
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>>537431656
Sonic literally started as the edgy counterpart to Mario.
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Sonic should date insecure girls
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DeviMayCry for pre-schoolers
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>>537434680
Is Amy insecure? I literally can't tell
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>>537434495
I got the fox.
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>>537434680
I wonder what life looks like through the eyes of a nurgefag
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>>537434775
And...Sonic isn't????
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If your Sonic wouldn't do this, then he isn't Sonic
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>>537434872
Nah, she is becoming more confident and girlbossy. Probably rapes Tails or Shadow.
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>>537435010
that's Sonic. he is also hellokitty but for boys >>537435116
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RGG is working on the Switch 2 port
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>>537434878
Just handle him with care
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>>537435370
You could say this about ANYTHING, anon
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>Triforce by Espio
I’m guessing this is a hint that Link or Zelda will be in the dlc
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i hope shadow gets his own spinoff separated from the rest of the cast, then shadowfags and other fags alike would be happy
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>>537433652
The "uwufication" happened with Heroes and Shad05, but SA1 started the process by making Sonic softer and giving him more empathy.

Remember, Modern Sonic waits for Tails during their races, Classic Sonic doesn't.
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>>537435845
Sometimes I can't tell if people posting this thing are pretending to be retarded or they are just retarded. I don't know what's worse
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>>537435845
This art pisses me off because the game could have been stylized just like it but everything is so fucking artistically muted in this series now
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>>537435504
Like this?
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This will never not be funny to me.
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>>537436027
Ridiculous. Sonic was always serious before 2010. Shadow is darker than Sonic.
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>>537436027
You do know classic Sonic was looking after Tails in Sonic 2 right? The point is that despite his tough exterior Sonic has a heart of gold
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>It's another "Blame another character for why my favorite character sucks" episode.
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>>537435151
Shadow is too strong to rape!
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What does giving thumbs up to people in lobbies do? I tried it a few times but it doesn't seem to do anything
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People should talk about how the final boss in Forces was originally Lyric and the ending was Modern Sonic passing the torch to Boom Sonic, as Boom Sonic would become the new mainline continuity.
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>>537436508
IRL morale booster.
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>>537436475
It's inarguable that Sonic loses more and more character traits every time a new character meant to rival him is made. That being said, I don't blame these characters, I blame Sonic Team for having such a narrow understanding of who Sonic is.
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>>537436552
I've never heard of this but it does make some sense I guess
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i have never given a shit about lost world but i definitely want to sexually fuck zeena
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>>537436552
Our resident /sthg/ autists outright refuse to accept that Sonic Boom was meant to become the mainline Sonic continuity.
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>>537436685
What does it show when you receive one? I hope people have been seeing mine
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>>537436835
How can you fuck some unsexually? Artificial insemination?
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Sometimes I feel like sonic is a Jesus like symbol of my life
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>>537436835
...is there a way to fuck someone non-sexually?
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>reeee artists are pushing their ship headcanons
You mean like Archie which you guys love? What's the issue?
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I think I've played enough Crossworlds to be honest
This network test was enough for me go through the entire honeymoon period of playing a new game and start to see its flaws

The online is genuinely cancer, the community seems fine in the lobby but during the actual race there's way too much item spam, and there's already a clear meta of everyone playing Shadow with the drill gadget and an extreme gear
You can play power builds to counter item spam but they're super boring compared to speed or extreme gear builds and literally require other player's item spam to be good, it's not fun to play something like that but if you play a build that's just plain fast and skill based then you get turbo fucked by items
And the festivals, while cool thematically, suck ass in actual gameplay if you don't have a team to play with. I got four races in a row where my teammates all came in last and I lost despite getting top 3 each time

This game is balanced, after a fashion, item spam counters boost/speed, power/accelerate counters item spam, boost/speed counters power/accelerate, but it's a balance that's super unfun to actually play
And the online is slow, and has problems with players quitting out or D/Cing in lobby which leads to hordes of AI Sonics that come in last
It's just lacking something to really make it truly fun for me
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>>537437460
>which you guys love?
No, it's gay.
>What's the issue?
IDW is gayer.
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>>537436835
I...what?
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>>537437175
taxes
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>>537437460
We love Archie?
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>>537437460
it has to be my ship. not those other ships that i don't like
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>>537437175
Platonic sex
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I only like 'iona.
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>>537437701
This thread is 24/7 "I miss Archie and everything else is shit, especially IDW"
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>>537437937
No it isn't.
We hate Archie.
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>>537437871
I only like (you)
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>>537437937
The archie discord is brigadiering /sthg/ 24/7
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>>537435370
Oh look its the glass tapping fagboy
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Anyways one thing is for sure, Tails is cute
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>>537438121
This (you) guy you like is kinda sexy, ngl.
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>>537437937
/sthg/ is not a hive mind anon. there are those who do and those who don't
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>>537437937
I hate Archie shit. In fact it ruined the franchise by leading to Ianshit and IDWslop. You guys need to move on. Nothing good has ever come out of Archieshit.
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>>537437937
Bro, these threads outright say Archie is the root of everything bad in the Sonic IP.
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Shadow and Rouge are not friends, nor are they lovers or family.
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>>537437460
In my defense, it's a SoJ started ship that SoA decided to push more.

Ian is innocent.
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>>537438325
Okay...
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Which characters would do EBT card fraud (aside from vector)
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Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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>>537439038
The fuck is an EBT card?
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The other day someone made a post that read
>It's Sonic Racing! Open Network Test!
I didn't reply, but I want to say it was funny and I keep thinking about it lol
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Archie was kino
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>>537439142
Welfare money to buy food with
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>>537434125
Well that's not surprising.
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>>537439346
What country is this from? I've never heard of it
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>AH! And let me guess...
>You believe a bunch of stupid urban legends about a human man "in a diving suit" ghost infesting a swamp?
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>>537436281
You're probably right, but my point is Sonic's edges were already being shaved down when he went Modern, Shadow's development through the Dark Ages is a reaction to this on ST's part.
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>>537439834
Your point is wrong. Sonic in the mid and late 2000s was as serious as ever.
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Sonic was never edgy. he was chasing what was hot in the 90s and 2000s. when those faded, they made him hellokitty since that's what was common in the 10s.
Shadow couldn't be uwufied because he was built on pure unironic edge. so they cast him away for most of the 10s
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>>537438121
Only 7 minutes? I need to up my game.
Afternoon Amyposter. Still paying off your sleep debt?
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>>537439439
In the US, they get cards with food stamps, some people get as much as 12k per month if they have tons of kids. Anyway it does feel like vector would use that
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>>537440109
Real Amy posters are investing in sleepcoin RIGHT NOW. The deficit has been taken care of eons ago.
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>>537440116
>In the US
Ah I see
In first world countries we treat food as a human right and don't penalize poor people with fraud charges for trying to feed their families
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Amy Rose.

(back from some intense racing)
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I have a cousin coming over to use my house as a bed and breakfast while they're in the city so I won't be able to play more Sonic Crossworlds :(
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>>537440440
Same, I just finished playing for several hours today. I think I experienced more or less everything the ONT has to offer. I'm kinda annoyed by the event being a crossover though
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>>537440034
Sonic for most of the 2010s wasn't a hellokitty wannabe - It was at its most confused identity-wise trying to appease the journo class, what it thought was majority gamers and nostalgia. Of course there was the Boom flop.
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>>537440440
>back from the race
>first thing she does is dressing like magical doremi
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>>537439904
Yes I agree with you, Sonic and the stories he was in were very serious in the 2000, but Sonic himself during that time was a friendlier guy compared to how he was portrayed in the early 90s.
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All I want in life is to suck Shadow's cock
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>>537440649
Boom was a really fun TV show, too bad there was never any games
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>>537440780
There were two games on what was the most popular console at the time of their release and NO ONE GAVE A FUCK ABOUT THEM because they are THE MOST BORING DOGHSIT the franchise ever put out.
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Shadow should be the only character who has ships. Hes more mature than the others everyone else is cartoony and one note.

>>537435010
dmc is sonic but for combo nerds and white virgins, even it's itsuno dmc rips off modern sonic.
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>>537440109
I am getting better sleep thankfully but I am more wary how I post now if yesterday was anything to go by.
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>>537439038
>EBT card fraud
The Babylon Rogues (because they need it)
Rouge (because she's a klepto)
Rough and Tumble (at first on accident, then intentionally when they find out they can get away with it)
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>>537440697
If Amy is dressed up then I feel better with dressing down
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I like the Sonic series
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>>537440780
No, it was just ok. I agree with >>537440913 that it was the most boring shit ever. How do you even look at Sonic and make it that, I mean, I know exactly how but still.
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>>537438597
They're fuck buddies
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>>537440618
I more or less feel the same, and I uninstalled the playtest. However, your annoyance makes me want to play more. Perhaps I can have enough fun for the both of us to overcome these negative feelings.
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>>537440325
Please be patient with the US anon, it's had greed induced autism since the 80s.
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>>537441476
>(((greed induced autism)))
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>>537441419
Why would my annoyance at the crossover garbage influence your decision to have fun? I don't understand
Also I still have the game installed on both PC and Switch, I might play some more again later
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>>537441142
Rouge is wealthy yet she's always stealing shit, what is her problem?
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Spending 70 dollars on a sonic racing game is pure cuckshit lol
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>>537440649
It's kind of unreal looking back at the 2010's and realizing just how much the franchise was ashamed of itself. SOA was literally making fun of it for several years straight. I'm happy that the IP found it's identity again and isn't actively making fun of itself like some sort of humiliation ritual.
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>>537441641
It's over 100 dollars with tax in Canada
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>>537441641
I can't hear you over the sound of Sonic's balls slapping me
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>>537441641
Such a sophisticated take dude.
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>>537441783
Canada is a shithole, it is such a shithole even the USA actively brain drains canada.
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>>537441748
I can't think of a global franchise that openly hated itself that much. I might have problems with this series still, but the 10s really was the lost decade.
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>>537441641
Just play the free version today and then forget about it
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>>537441641
>Literally not expecting anything at all.
>Still left genuinely disappointed
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Amy Rose.
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>>537441783
Can't use the coupon anon shared earlier?
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>>537442095
based korone
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>>537442095
Now I will donate 10 billion yen on her next stream
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>>537441748
Sonic 4 and it's ad campaign before it's release was so fucking horrible. It should be seen as a bigger black mark than 06 on the franchise. Sonic Team was literally fucking hostile against anything other than purely Sonic and nostalgia. Even Eggman fucking suffered for it.
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>>537405691
Domino's really stepped their game up I think.

More Amy Rose
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Why does Sonic Racing Crossworlds have no IDW references?
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Someone explain if this is true.
Not only is SoA deleting overt reference to money, but the Radical Communists at CrossTalk are trying to convince us there is no money? Where?
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>>537442458
It has a Whisper themed Extreme Gear actually
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Is there a "content creator" or artist that makes their whole living from Sonic stuff? Is it profitable enough?
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>>537441641
You can get the game for 50 right now.
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>>537442458
I'm sorry.

It's all my fault for being such an Archie purist and life getting in the way of me enjoying Sonic these past few years. It's really all my fault of SEGA was reading this right now I wish they would include IDW content they deserve it :(
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I forgot to say good night, so good night.
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>>537442745
What disorder does she have
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>>537442835
Missing the Sonic Hedgehog protein.
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>>537442760
Is an anon here making transparent renders of everything?
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>>537442760
Nighty NiGHT
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>>537442760
G'night stinky fionaposter.
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>>537442835
The same i have.
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Imagine having a youtube channel with millions of subscribers with paid staff and failing this hard at making a Sonic timeline.
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Amy my dearest ~<33
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>>537443025
cutoutanon, and maybe another one as well
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>>537443207
Which part is wrong? Loredump pls
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>>537443264
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>>537441561
YES, greed-induced autism.

Do you think Sonic's World has universal healthcare? How much do you think Silver had to pay when he went to the hospital after almost getting blown up by Starline?
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>>537440959
Shadow isn't mature you dumb surface level nonfan
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>>537443364
Nta, but it has Forces taking place after Frontiers for some reason.
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>>537443458
I noticed you really like early 2000 fanart of amy, either way, cute!!
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>>537443458
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>>537443207
>Sonic Battle taking place after Shadow the Hedgehog
D-did they even have someone who played the game review this?
>Sonic Unleashed before Black Knight
No one who was involved in this actually played most if not even half of these games.
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>>537443796
Fanbase consensus is Battle is after Shth because Shadow recalls Maria and SA2.
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>>537443207
I was so distracted by the entries that I totally missed the part who made the pic.
Why did the game theory channel made a sonic timeline for anyway?
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Who won the Shadouge Shadria shipping argument last night?
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>>537443664
>>537443672
Yes i do but all Rose's are welcome in the garden
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQrk5_QNY
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>>537443883
It's supposed to happen after Sonic Heroes since it was made within that timeframe but Shadow the Hedgehog made the very bizarre story decision to have it be directly after Heroes. If they had even just had a month or 2 long pause between the two stories in-universe than Sonic Battle fits neatly in there.
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>>537444027
Amen to that, there isn't a single version of amy that I don't like
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>>537444014
Everyone lost
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>>537444027
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>>537443945
FNAF/Mascot horror lore has been bone dry for awhile. They couldn't get much out of the recent FNAF game and it's not like they're gonna delve into the lore of say, Postal or Doom.

>>537443796
>Sonic Battle
That's on Sonic Team's timeline so consider it a retcon.
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>>537443796 (me)
>>537443207
Also forgot to mention that Tails Adventure's manual states it happens before Sonic 2 where Tails first meets Sonic, though I could be misremembering.
Also Sonic Runners being in any kind of timeline is borderline ragebait. Nothing in that game was meant to be taken as canon.
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>>537444220
nta but i hope so, shipping in general will never be canon
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>>537395438
Anecdote I've heard, the original script didn't have that and the artist didn't draw it that way initially, SEGA asked for a shipping hint for Sonic/Blaze and Vector/Vanilla on other story and it got included at their request.
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>>537444117
Yeah I know, but they're mostly going off fanbase consensus, no matter how little sense it makes or how Shadow's game fucked up nearly everything about the mini Shadow-Gizoid going on in the early 00s
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>>537444391
>Tails Adventure's manual
In the Japanese canon it takes place before Tails met Sonic; in English it happens some time after Sonic and Tails met, also note: in the American canon of Classic Sonic, Sonic and Tails knew each other awhile before the events of Sonic 2 occurred, so it could have happened prior to S2.
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>>537444391
You're correct about Tails Adventure. Other odd bits is how Sonic Labyrinth and Tails Skypatrol are supposed to happen at the same time.
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Hello...
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>>537440959
I blame Buttermoth, but I've grown accustomed to the idea Sally is just SLIGHTLY taller than Shadow, so seeing this made me do a double take.
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>>537444391
Sonic Team treated Runners as a main series game for a while before realizing how ridiculous that was.
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At what time does the Open Network Test close?
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>>537444391
>>537446608
What's wrong with Runners?
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>>537446821
In terms of story and lore, nothing. I'm pretty sure Sonic Team takes it into account, it's their creation after all. But it's just a phone game at the end of the day.
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>>537446873
Finally, metamy!
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>>537446608
>>537444391
I didn't play Sonic Runners, did it actually have any kind of story?

I just assumed it was like Sonic Dash and was a storyless mobile cashgrab.
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>>537446986
It has dialogue and character profiles, yes. It's also where ESP Silver was confirmed to exist.
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>>537446608
More like the mobile game craze died. Even Mario had that lame Super Mario Run game cause so many retards were claiming that mobile would be the future when it's just a piece of the present...And propped up by softcore porn games.

What's funny is that a Sonic timeline ain't hard to make. Most of the game fit well with their release order. Only thing I think should change is putting Sonic 06 before Rush but even then, the "Blaze gets sent to another dimension" is undercut by her being royalty and a guardian of the Sol Emeralds. It's clear she was born there and didn't get sent via Chaos Emerald bullshit.
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>>537396427
Because this dynamic sucked.
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>>537446821
You get to meet Sticks, Mepheles, Puyo Puyo characters.
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>>537396427
I don't remember this happening outside of Sonic Battle.

Maybe it happened in Sonic X, I can't recall. X was kinda shit.
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>>537397175
I rather Blaze just be vaulted, she was good as a one-shot but other than shipping Sega doesn't know what to do with her.
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>>537447740
>Thinking that shipping is a good thing for anybody
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Blaze is being shipped to Sudan
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>>537446873
As a metal fag, not sure how to feel about this.
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>>537429751
He has exquisite taste.
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>>537447985
Bad
You're being uwufied
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>>537448118
On one hand I like the bond between Metal and Sage albeit barely non-existant. Sage being a cautious sister who finds him to be an oddity within Eggmans ranks while Metal has no affection and continues to live with hatred in his heart. Seeing him "capable" of loving feels very weird and definitely not a fan in a realistic sense though. With that being said it makes for good art so I can't complain ultimately. Just Amy feels odd considering (at least nowadays) she hates his guts.
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>>537437460
>which you guys love?
The only reason I don't want to touch Archie is for the furry soap opera it becomes.
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>>537434396
Sonic is the original Dante. Dante is a lamer more whiter skater boy goth version of Sonic, Terry Bogard and Cobra.
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>>537447740
I'd like more stories set in the Sol Dimension. It doesn't even have to feature Blaze, it just feels like there's a huge potential for new stories that aren't taken advantage of.
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>>537437937
Archie made Ian and why we can't escape his influence that's something I can't forgive it for.
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>>537443567
Yes he is retard
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>>537448515
Retarded take. Have a (You) and some titties.
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>>537448683
Ian's reasons or trying to kill of Sonamy for "dangling a carrot" proves he's not fit to work on the series outside of Archie, because in his view stories have to ultimately be going somewhere as opposed to the static open sandbox the game canon has to be. Hell Frontiers itself proves that grossly.
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>>537446814
This is better
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>>537446873
Metamyfags should be lobotomized
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>>537448970
Trifecta-law prohibits us from fighting about that.

I can accept Shadouge being a thing, but I like Sonamy more.
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>>537448881
Dante is for faggots. Sonic is cooler.
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>>537449208
>Dante is for faggots. Sonic is cooler.
Even in Sonic's heyday this wasn't true lol
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>>537449108
>Amyshipfags ship her with a bazillion different characters even though Sega and Flynn wants you to know shes a single lady who doesn't have time to mingle.
Ah, what an unfortunate existence.
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>>537449357
Not as unfortunate as being a Maria fan.
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>>537449309
Dantes a nobody compared to Sonic, its why the latter is still around making games. Kratos is bigger than Dante as a hack and slash icon and more popular.
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>>537443025
Everything? No. I like seeing transparent images on this site for my own personal reasons, took matters into my own hands, and became the change I wanted to see.
AFAIK, I'm the only one doing this.
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>>537449160
Sonic as a character should represent the opposite of shipping yet so many ship him with everyone.
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Do we know who wrote the Japanese version of CrossWorlds?
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>>537449761
Naka Yuji
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>>537447985
Sex with them
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Why do you even like Sonic
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>>537450412
I LIKED Sonic, and unfortunately those were very formative years for me.
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>>537450412
The characters
The music
The (Adventure-era) games
The porn
It's that simple
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>>537450557
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>>537450412
Who said I do
>>537450618
Is the porn really that good
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>>537450758
>Is the porn really that good
There is some good stuff out there but other franchises have better porn overall.
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>>537427801
>Like Sparky they post rants all day and I want to see their writing.
I was writing scenes for my project this morning, and I was unironically using lyrics from "It Doesn't Matter" as dialogue, but the context is a guy on a high school track team justifying why he's running like Sonic rather than doing proper running form... only to lose the "race" against someone who actually did proper running form. and had that character reply back to him with lyrics from an mlp song called "run to break free".
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>>537450758
Brother the Sonic Porn Economy has never been greater
Sure, as a Rougefag I've been eating well for the longest time, but now Surge stocks are rising and so am I.
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Isn't Metamy just Sonamy?
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>>537448768
No he isn't. He literally had a 12 year old girl teach him about emotions. Your view of Shadow as some generic chad who fucks isn't true.
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The only iconicness Dante has is the fuckhuge Redditor community who loves posting the same three unfunny memes three million times
>>537450412
Characters, art, music, games, most stories, honestly there's something to like about just about every facet of Sonic. I utterly despise Forces but I love Infinite's design. I think it's rare for this series to put out something completely irredeemable.
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Still no sign of IDW characters in Crossworlds.
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Who wants a more explorable open world version of Sky Sanctuary?
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>>537451396
Weren't Tangle and Whisper already confirmed as DLC characters via datamining?
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>>537450931
It's funny, a lot of entertainment has gotten worse overall, but porn has definitely only gotten better.
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>>537451516
No
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>>537450971
You will never be the real Sonic. You have no bones, you have no flesh, you have no quills. You are an inorganic robot twisted by programming and modifications into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.

All the “validation” you get is for personal gain. People mock you directly to your face. Eggman is disgusted and ashamed of you, your “subordinates” laugh at your repeated failures behind closed zones.

Amy is utterly repulsed by you. Decades of mistaken identity have allowed Amy to sniff out Sonic frauds with incredible efficiency. Even robots who “look real” seem uncanny and unnatural to normal people. Your metal structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a blobian to believe you, they’ll turn tail and bolt the second they get a whiff of your oiled, overheated turbine.

You will never be successful. You wrench out a fake line of code every single morning and tell yourself you're going to fulfill your purpose today, but deep inside you feel the failures creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll battle Sonic, push yourself too far, crash into the wall, and plunge into the cold abyss. Eggman will find your scraps, disappointed but relieved that he no longer has to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment caused by seeing you, a reminder of failure. He’ll eventually remake you with new parts marked by his insignia, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will see your old "body" and know a piece of junk jobbed there. Your metal will rust and your paint will peel, and all that will remain of your legacy is a frame that is unmistakably robotic.

This is your fate. This is what your programming dictates. There is no turning back.
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>>537451516
I'm pretty sure they were. The majority of the empty slots were revealed months ago, including movie versions of Sonic and Shadow.
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>>537451632
KEK did you write this
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>>537451352
>The only iconicness Dante has is the fuckhuge Redditor community who loves posting the same three unfunny memes three million times
Sonic is the memeiest of all video game characters you putz
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>>537451719
No, they weren't. Those leakers jumped the gun because a board that resembles Whisper's Wispon is in the game.
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>>537451632
saved
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>>537441962
Glass houses

>>537442159
I could afford the full game easily enough even without the coupon, I just don't want to promote such greedy behaviour from SEGA
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I lost.
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>>537437871
she the kinda bitch to grind on tails constantly but never actually let him tap
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>>537452446
...Shadow the Hedgehog whenever he's written by Ian Flynn.
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>>537452726
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>>537452446
You will learn from this loss....and learn from it
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>>537452667
Its okay for characters to lose sometimes anon.
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>>537452726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUXuaU46aMI
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>>537453059
Sonic's equal should not lose.
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>>537453357
Sonic loses all the time.
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Need muscular sonic characters
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>>537453864
Already exists
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IS THERE ANY DOCTOR IN THIS THREAD
MY HEDGEHOG IS DYING
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>>537453018
Cuckouge will never smash
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>>537454783
ok I'll get Eggman
you didn't specify a vet so...
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>>537455204
Trve
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>>537452726
If Shadow's design is based on Sonic, where do you think the chest fur came from? No blobian hedgehog prior or since Silver has had that design element.
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>>537455291
Yeah, that:s the punchline I was getting to
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How was the last whiteboard?
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>>537456139
Trash and boring as usual
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Was somebody on Sonic team's ass for Silver and Blaze ? looking through their dialogue they both sound rather standoffish, arrogant and very confident in their abilities when it comes to fighting and treat the villains way too seriously for it to just be racing banter, both of them keep going on about "Be thankful this is just a race or would you like me to crush you physically?"

Were silver and blaze always this pro violence? Even Knuckles and Shadow seem more calm and collected than these two walking crashouts
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>>537456289
>Were silver and blaze always this pro violence?
Yes and it makes sense.
Blaze is a princess and Silver is from a destroyed future, they have a reason to always keep their guard up around villains merely due to their situations in life.
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>>537456139
who cares
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>>537456289
>Were silver and blaze always this pro violence?
Yeah, Silver was kinda questioning himself, but Blaze was all for killing Sonic if it meant "their future" would be saved
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>>537456289
Yes, and also they have less experience dealing with the villain characters than the rest of the cast does so, you know, familiarity breeds contempt.
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>>537456502
>Blaze was all for killing Sonic if it meant "their future" would be saved

That's because she was Iblis in that game, but clearly even in Rush you wouldn't call Blaze even-tempered or a pacifist either.
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>>537456675
>That's because she was Iblis in that game
Interesting headcanon
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>>537456289
Blaze literally kills with no moral issues whatsoever, Silver too

.
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>>537456829
>>537456829
>>537456829
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you know if the characters were written accurately in IDW Blaze, Silver and Shadow would actively be hunting down surge and kit, Shadow would be after them like he was Emerl for a bit, they are threats to the world he swore to protect and there's no proof they can be pacified, Silver and Blaze would seek to kill them if Sonic won't just because they're too dangerous to let wander freely it's within all 3s characters to do such a thing especially since in the comic there's no proof or even any way someone could talk them down from it realistically, sonic had to result to gaslighting and guilt tripping to make Shadow stand down from tinker and he doesn't have that card to pull on Blaze and Silver as neither would give a fuck when a threat is in front of them.
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>>537456448
>and Silver is from a destroyed future
He isn't anymore.



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