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Welcome to New York!

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/08-18-2025-update.75046/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
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>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlocked.wiki/
https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/
>New Player Guide
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>Advanced Movement Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHc
>Unofficial Stat Tracker
https://statlocker.gg/

Threadlocked: >>537458387
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put pugna in this game
make him a smug italian-american midget
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The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.
These are TWΟ different characters.
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Here's how to buff Mina

Replace the ult with either Death Prophet's Exorcism or a Queen of Pain ult that shoots out bats in front of her
AND if you hold space, Mina can hover for a bit in the air
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>>537513702
Ivy is cool
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>>537514019
sure let's ignore her gun being useless and her taking a wind breeze to die
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i legit want to give Paige several pregnancies and fill a whole library with our offspring.
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>>537513907
>>537513938
Did I stutter? We love Techies here.
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>>537513702
he did it, the absolute madman
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make each instance of love bite give a permanent spirit
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>>537514182
She just needs better burst and her ult is shit late game
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I like how almost all of the "evil" characters in Deadlock are actually pretty heinous in one way or another, they don't have that sympathetic "oh I just need a hug" ineffectual edge to them for the most part.

I feel like Seven COULD actually be an exception to that, he comes off to me more as a wounded idealist than hedonistic selfish asshole like a lot of the others.
>Yamato runs a brutal criminal empire and slashes anyone who crosses her no matter how slight, does not give a shit about anyone she kills
>Wraith puts on a cordial persona but is constantly grooming and corrupting anyone she gets her mitts on and is solely in the game for thrills, could easily go legit
>Mina is a psycho narcissist who oozes contempt for everyone around her in all of her lines
>Vyper will both kill for a pack of cigarettes and is her obsession with lash is genuinely unnerving
>Drifter routinely straight up threatens to eat women and children
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>bebop player says anything
>call him a clanker
>they always get offended
winning bigly against these wireback, tinskin, rosa sparks, oil drinking freaks.
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>>537514318
Your taste in anime waifus also sucks btw. This has been scientifically proven by resident experts in the field.
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>>537514318
based
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>>537514318
You sure did and made a lot of mistakes in ''we loathe this shit hero'' along the way
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>>537514318
>>>>>>>we
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>>537514318
Techies but with demoman sticky launcher
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>>537513927
The spam post of chud unoriginality.
These are THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY different posts.
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>>537514467
here's hoping this is partially meant so as to balance things out if and when they add some actual good characters into the game
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>>537514739
techies but with the sticky jumper for maximum map coverage
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>>537514779
why would anyone morally "good" be willing to kill other desperate people for a wish?
that's an inherently selfish thing.
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>>537514760
he's been doing it since before there was even a general, I remember this same thing on /v/ in like June of last year
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So is Divine Barrier just debuff remover but better?
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They should ass Techies to the game.
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>>537514946
listen it's okay the patron revives them
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>>537513702
>>537514148
>>537514330
>>537514597
Nobody is unironically into Ivy, right? I mean what boy would want to kiss a gargoyle haha, she probably hasn't even kissed before she wouldn't know what to do and would be really embarrassed haha wouldn't it be really funny if someone drew anon kissing her as a joke?
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>>537514182
Mina's entire problem is that her early to mid game leads don't translate well to late game because her ultimate is shit at that point. And that's the sole skill that scales with love bites.

Either make all her skills scale with her bats or make her ultimate less useless.
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>>537514467
I'm so tired of le gray antagonist characters
most writers are brainless so they can't write actual nuance. but they still want to try to have nuanced characters. the result is that their characters are both flat and lame
cool things are cool. make evil characters
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>>537515141
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>>537515209
Why not remove the cool down on love bites? That would make her primary scale into the late game to some degree.
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Crushing fists should reduce the parried window by like 50% tbdesu. Yes I know debuff reducer does that, but playing melee characters and still having to bait a parry every time sucks
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>>537515248
i like grey antagonists but there's a specific kind of grey antagonist who's just toothless (like reaper from overwatch) and deadlock mostly avoids that
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>>537515331
That's harder to balance because the damage output would be obscene.
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>>537514946
I'm not saying a lawful good character would make any sense, but neutral good/chaotic good types could. And if the enemy team has even one evil character, then the rest of the enemy team could be considered at least morally gray by association. The ritual could be done out of desperation to help someone else, or fix their mistakes, and so on
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haze or wraith?
they seem like very similar characters
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>>537515248
>cool things are cool. make evil characters
edgy immature twelve year olds are edgy immature twelve year olds. grow up
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>>537515141
Trannoids love her for some reason.
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>>537515527
haze is just better right now iirc, better abilities and a much better ult.
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>>537515527
Haze is squishy but can snowball hard as FUCK if you're the best player in the lobby
Wraith requires no skill whatsoever after getting surge of power, merc mag and boundless spirit.
literally, 4 > 1 > 3 and kill any hero in the game with bodyshots.
Haze for climbing on alts, Wraith for carrying games in your elo.
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>>537515527
I prefer Wraith, the cards are cool, the teleport is very strong for escaping, her 3 also gives a shitload of spirit damage and ulting isolated enemies will never get old.
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>>537515141
Straight men recognize a good waif they see one.
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>>537515698
LMFAOOOOOOOO
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>>537515527
Buy shadow weave and Wraith is just better
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explain techies to a lolfag
are they just teemo?
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>>537515862
No, there is no LoL comparison to the creature that was Techies
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>>537515862
why are you asking this in the deadlock general and not the dota general, you drooling retard?
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>we won't need to worry about any more black hoes for a bit
what the fuck?
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>>537515862
Imagine if you could stack teemo mushrooms on top of eachother, they did stacking damage, he can detonate them manually and you couldn't use oracle lens. Pink wards only.
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>>537515862
In a basic sense yes. I don't know what's up with him anymore but he used to be able to stack mines which means he could literally just 1 shot anyone that walked over the mines so sentries and gems was a must in order to do anything on the map if he was on the enemy team
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>>537515862
permanent mines
bomb stacks that instant kill anyone
delay games for literal hours
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>>537516154
This website is a little schizo tho
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>>537515862
tl;dr he turned every game of dota he was in into an ambiguous minefield that dragged out matches and pissed people off because he was basically playing his own personal strategy game instead of "real dota" (brool)
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>>537515141
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>this one retarded rusniger always goes 1-13-3 with no damage
>refuses to stop playing
>always ends up in my team
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Techies is like Drifter in the way he alters the entire game plan of the enemy except everyone hates you even your own team.
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What does Mina smell like?
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>>537516201
whoops meant to reply to >>537336358
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>>537516374
Salty coins and milk
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>>537516374
like coins
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>>537516370
True. The only thing worse than a techies on the enemy team was a techies on your own team. Glad they murdered that fuck.
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If you're 1-15 and you havent figured out where you're going wrong you might genuinely be retarded
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>>537515862
What they are talking about is old/release Techies. Imagine Teemo but he has infinite shrooms and different kinds of shrooms too. Now the map is much bigger, has more strategic chokepoints and highground. Needless to say games with him routinely went for 1hr+ and werent fun for anyine, techies included since for most shitters who played him its an afk hero
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>Oracle 3 game
>Mina procs love bites literally
>LITERALLY
>one singular time in lane
>dies 4 times before 8 minutes
>flames me blaming me for her 4 deaths while I had nearly double her damage at 8 minutes in lane with only 1 death
at what rank do I stop playing with these subhumans?
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>>537516619
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If YOU are 1-15 and you HAVEN'T(!?) figured out WHERE you're going WRONG [image of man with his mouth wide open in shock] you MIGHT genuinely be RETARDED (watch my video to learn more!)
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>really like Lady Geist
>dont want to play her and suck, then think im bad at the only character i like
>play random characters instead and just have a meh time
help
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>>537515248
nta but even if I'm not a fan of these types of giga evil characters I do agree with your sentiment, so many writers want to have their cake and eat it too by making "evil" characters that never do anything actually morally reprehensible.
I do understand why they sit on that fence, though, it becomes harder to sell a character when they're actually bad people, specially if they do evil things that are too real and hit close home, Twitter has a meltdown every time a quirky relatable comic book villain turns out to be a pedo or a rapist, despite already being mass murderers.
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>>537516792
mina players? afraid they're in 95% of games right now
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>>537516792
what does it matter how many times Mina procs it in lane? sometimes it's a harder lane where you can't aggro, and proccing it from afar is not possible
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>>537516820
TRVTH NVKE
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>>537516578
>playing vs old Techies
>playing 4 vs 5
>the game goes on for 2 hours anyway
Who had it worse?
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Saw a video from 4 months ago and damn the map looks different, brighter but far more plain
never really realized how much it has changed since my own break was a 9 month one
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>>537516897
You can stay shit forever or learn how to play your favorite to her utmost lil nigga. Everyone starts out ass somewhere
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>>537516897
She's pretty basic, you should be able to 1 trick her from the start
I'd say just play her
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Are Geist and Shiv the only heroes that can 1v1 Drifter?
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>>537516792
At whichever rank stops playing Mina, coomerbait design was a mistake
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>>537516924
>what does it matter how many times Mina procs it in lane?
because if you're 4 fucking deaths and can't even proc your 3 more than 1 time you're rancid horrible dogshit?
the fuck sort of useless retard post are you making here, dude?
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>>537516924
You literally only have to shoot someone for like 2 seconds, it's her only fucking damage source
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Look man lemme tell ya there's nothing funnier than a Drifter "catching" you alone as Doorman just for you to ult him and ping your team to jump his ass
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I had an idea for a hero connected to the american folklore that Deadlock is kind of riffing on. Ghost based on or just actually is John Henry. Difference to Vindi is that after resurrection by the maelstrom he's surprised he's becoming a beloved celebrity/folk hero by working people across america so he's had an easier time of it and isn't driven by a mission of revenge but instead is going to the patron for a wish of helping his old community. Something like that.

His ult would be Steel Driving, moves fast and hammers the floor like he's Mario with the hammer in donkey kong, applying microstun/interrupts in a small aoe as he chases someone down. Maybe exhausted at the end of it/small stun period.

IDK I just think it would be a neat idea :)
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>>537517173
because you implied not proccing the bites is somehow the worst mistake instead of her just flat out dying 4 times

>>537517183
it's 5 shots and you have to be close, and in some lanes if you're close you die instantly because the hero is a piece of paper
especially a losing lane
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>>537517352
if you're going 8 minutes without proccing love bites more than 1 time you're clinically retarded and
1. shouldn't be in my oracle games
2. need to unironically go back to bots
the fact that you consider that gameplay even remotely passable, even enough so to fucking defend a singular proc of love bites, shows how dogshit cancer low coomer retards like you are.
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>>537517120
Seven can shred him unless he's giga fed
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>>537517487
i'm higher ranked than you, retard and probably have played a bit more mina than you
the main issue was dying 4 times, not the love bites procs. if you play a losing lane proccing the bites becomes infinitely more difficult for her
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>>537517637
post statlocker, faggot
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>>537516897
Live for yourself, not the others. Play what you want, as long as you have fun and don't ruin the game on purpose.
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>Mina players are such rancid dogshit they defend not proccing your only damage ability more than one time in the entire laning phase
just how dogshit ARE coomertards exactly?
does porn addiction really rot the brain that much?
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>>537517802
This so this
I went ~0-12 3 games in a row as Pocket but on my 4th it started to make sense and I only went 5-9
Needless to say life is a journey not a destination
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>>537517883
there's literally nothing the hero can do to proc the fucking thing if she's losing because the hero is so dogshit
a sneeze kills her, if the enemies are ahead you just die and die and die like that retard did 4 times
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Gonna be interesting to see the first proper balance patch this week
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>>537516897
Sure, stay away cucky, meanwhile Lady Geist is literally sucking the soul out of me ;)
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I played 5 games yesterday, I lost all, in 2 of them one of my lanes got NON STOP ASSRAPED, 2 of them, I got NON STOP ASSRAPED, 1 of them, I did okay but didnt matter because in the end we got NON STOP ASSRAPED. How do you win at this game? In each game except one the enemy had a drifter who NON STOP ASSRAPED us. I remember playing this game in the beginning of alpha, back when it was 4 lanes (which does no one else here miss and felt like it was better?) and games were not this sweaty
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>>537517981
>a sneeze kills her
hit 2, dash away, play off angles
you're a fucking rancid shitter and would probably lose lane as Mina to fucking Dynamo Haze and then still go "ermm champ bad!!"
now post rank, faggot.
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>>537516374
rotting corpse drenched in perfume and some slight hint of blood that's being hanging there for days. Valve is probably too afraid of reality and would probably create any kind of excuse revolving around magic to not have to ever explain anything about it, but you have to keep in mind that she is literally dead, it's not cute.
If you want to know how actually horrifying, sad and disgusting it really is to be half-dead, then look up Hisashi Ouchi, his organs had imploded and failed and the (japanese) doctors still kept him alive for testing for several months
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What does higher rank give you? Why would I want one?
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It's Rayman's 30th birthday today, time sure flies huh?
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here's my idea for victor nerf, just move the purge over to the non-charged ability and require an investment to use charges on jumpstart
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>>537518092
>hit 2
30 second cooldown
>dash away
2 stam bars
>play off angles
won't proc bites because enemies will just cover

just by implying you can even get 5 shots against a competent player on lane often means you're playing in dogshit ranks
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>>537517120
I've beaten his ass as Abrams in 1v1, stuns eat him alive
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>>537518106
>she is literally dead
Vampires aren't dead
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>>537518216
>STILL NOT POSTING RANK
I accept your concession, wheelchair low shitter.
never respond to me again you porn sick disgusting freak.
thank god i'll never see your dogshit ass in my games.
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>>537517960
I remember taking a huge break from the game and coming back after the shop update, feeding on literally everyone I pick because I didnt have the brain to train with the bots first. Now I've improved in KDA nad souls/damage to enemy massively and the game is actually fun, but first few weeks were rough
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>>537518361
i'm not doxxing myself for you, dumbfuck nigger. i have an image to maintain
learn how heroes work before you talk
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>>537514318
Shooter genre faggots have bad taste and hate Techies/trapper heroes in general, are you even remotely surprised?
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>>537518361
it's always shitters who seethe and scream post rank
meaningless noise if you don't post your own first
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>>537518153
prestige in the unemployed hierarchy
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so is Vyper just crap or something
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>>537518453
uh oh, ritualisttard melty!
don't worry, bro. one day you'll be out of meme ranks.
>>537518525
go fuck yourself.
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>>537518165
This but unironically add him in the game. He is a criminal, has two guns and can levitate bodyparts.
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>>537518106
Why should vamps be mandatory dead in this universe? They aren't even 100% undead in the folklore.
Btw its the guy who are a Chornobyl-like portion of rads, right?
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What is your typical soul count at 15ish minutes when you push walkers? What about 25 mins when fighting for midboss control?

I want to improve my builds but a build is no good if I don't know where to place my power spikes.
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>>537518579
You can't play Ivy and say these rude things, Anon!
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Which Deadcock hero would you put in Smash
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>>537518621
Around 1k souls per minute, a bit lower during lanes and a bit more if I'm getting fed
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>>537518728
Calico just so smashpedos dont ever come near this shit
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God I fucking miss solo lanes. So tired of drooling retards on my lane doing nothing but eating bullets, dying and making me fucking 1v2.
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>>537518284
in most stories, vampires can only become vampires by being completely drained by another one. If you were to run out of blood, you would die, so she's physically dead
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>>537518728
Any will do, add leveling and item buy too so they will go insane. I'm still keking from smasher "discovering" Terry and Kazuya tech.
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>>537518727
don't worry, I (mostly) stopped playing her weeks ago and now only play Doorman.
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I don't care if mina is dead im still gonna get her pregnant
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How are you supposed to utilize Victor's stun, people just walk away
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I fucking hate frogs
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>>537519091
>Victor's stun
???
Do you mean Seven?
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>>537519129
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>>537516687
Of course Techies was fun for the Techies player, otherwise we would not have played him. In fact, he was the MOST fun hero.
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>>537519179
his ult stuns (except when it doesn't because this game is rancid dogshit)
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>>537518153
Bragging rights on here, so literally nothing
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>>537519179
His ult stuns on revive unless that's the joke you're making
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Do you always have to pick 3 heroes to queue?
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>>537518941
>If you were to run out of blood, you would die
Only applies to humans.
Vampires don't die when they run out of blood.
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>>537519091
only time I had it work and kill people was when our lash slammed the team into me when I was about to die and we wiped them
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>>537519271
>>537519314
Oh yeah, I had totally forgotten since it's not an active ability. From my experience even with greater expansion people will just walk away from the radius unless they were already stunned from something else.
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>>537518941
>in most stories
Post an example from Deadlock's setting which claims vamps are dead or undead
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>>537519257
it's true
what deadlock really needs is a hero that turns the game into a 1v11
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>>537515041
>generally more useful stat
>builds out of an immediately useful laning item that basically just auto wins all trades
>lower cooldown
>can be used on others
>goes down to fucking 20 seconds CD if you use it on someone else
>this is before you pick up trancendant CD
>purges ults as well
>big range
>can potentially save team mates and turn fights
>can break others out of sleeps, wraith ult, roots, slows, anti heals etc
>even gives a faster speed boost
sure it costs double but it's also way more fucking useful.
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>>537515141
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>>537519257
I won't trust anything you just said. I've never seen a Techies player who is mentally healthy, same with DE players in 40k or Pyro players. There characters which seem to attract unstable individuals, Techies was one of those.
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>Played for a few days
>Stuck in initiator 1 and can't rank up
I wonder if me throwing with 20+ deaths whenever the team is losing are actually keeping me from getting any ranks at all.
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>>537519540
cute Ivy
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I had a lane where I ended up feeding like 3 kills and I felt like a retard im so bad at this game i wanna fcking scream and cry man
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>>537518180
thats a shitty nerf because jumpstart healing is shit in lane and would be shittier without charges until T2, at least give the old Spirit scaling back
moving the cleanse to pain battery and taking away the extra damage is also dumb
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>>537515041
Debuff remover is good for bruisers and barrier is good for supports. The passive 30% debuff reduction is fantastic if you're in the frontlines.
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>land Abrams pin with 5 points in 2
>buffer heavy melee
>parried
???????????????
was this not fixed when they gutted his early game heavy melee and forced it into a 2 point investment???
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>>537519379
Schrödinger's narcissist, of course

>>537519512
Like I said, in most stories. And like I said before, Valve will be too afraid to say anything about it, especially since they clearly designed her to be a coomer flytrap, so they'll just say it's magic and leave it at that.
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>>537515862
Imagine teemo except he can instantly kill an entire team and he can blow himself up to deny himself and deal like 1000 aoe damage. Also his mines can be used to blow up towers and he has a mine that stuns for like 6 seconds
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>watching some "high elo" games
>team im spectating has a DC
>they completely stomp the enemy team anyways
fucking how
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>>537519981
debuff resist or ping diff
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>>537520080
>debuff resist
BUT WASN'T THE WHOLE ENTIRE POINT OF TAKING AWAY MY EARLY GAME HEAVY MELEE TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING????
God, why did I even try this hunk of shit over billy.
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How broken is gun Ivy atm? I'm building both bullet vest and bullet armor and she's shredding my Abrams on equal networth still.
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Would a techies-like hero work in deadlock bros? With how movement is, I really don't know how they would implement the mines without it being too broken or situational.
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>>537519981
did you buffer it before landing? maybe they have debuff reducer and spellbreaker, which makes it so you need duration extender for a guaranteed hit
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>>537520278
Trapper was in hero labs you know
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>>537519091
It forces people to walk away, it's not an ability that is supposed to hit.
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>>537519674
My mains were actually old Naga (when her illusions and radiance were good), TB, Dusa, Spectre, PL, AM. Techies was what I would play as pos 4 or 5. Eventually he became my main when I came back to the game just because he was the most fun. Constantly suicide in lane, harass with orb of venom, give all my money to my carry, then take full control of the jungle, buy soul ring and mana boots and I'm fully farmed and get hysterical kills, get aghs. Come after me? If you somehow don't die then I just suicide bomb because I'm a worthless position 5 anyway. Good times. The best of times. Where have they gone?
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>>537520357
Never got to play him, only remember the lore reasons for him taking part in the ritual was for baseball tickets. He didn't get scrapped?
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why's homie play so much bebop
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>>537520013
>Like I said, in most stories
And none of these count for the specific setting we are in, so stop posting your headcanon as truth.
>>537519981
All HM nerfs were very heavy-handed (heh). You can't HM off chrge, you can't HM off the ult, you have too little ammo and high CD's to reliably trade. I get Abrams is still good despitte all of this, but you may as well just unassign your melee button while playing him.
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>>537519521
No passive 30% debuff resist on divine barrier though.
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Stray thought before going to bed, what do you think of Silence Wave on Lash? I wonder if the projectile will move fast enough to everyone I throw after a Death Slam from the air before I Ground Strike.
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>>537520032
I had a match a couple of days ago where my feeding cringeter ragequited at like minute 20, and then lash left right as the match became safe to leave. We almost lost like 3 different times and had to defend against the enemies having rejuv at one point but we pulled through. Nobody would care because I'm seeker and playing at 720p.
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>>537520704
>because I'm seeker and playing at 720p.
hey, check this shit out.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/609804
this should help a lot
though I would remove the aspect ratio bit, feels kinda weird.
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>>537517883
>>537518579
It takes 5 hits to proc it, she has 12 ammo, she's too slow and squishy to stay close enough to really force the proc, and the time it takes for it to wear off is pretty short. Rank doesn't matter, you have to play the hero to understand just how bad she is at actually proccing it.
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>>537520429
They were gone cause Valve understood that this hero design was garbage, same with the abundance of -cd neutral items and revive time talents. Hope Helm of Undying will be removed too (again)
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>>537518810
What if instead of reintroducing 1v1 by readding the 4th lane or downsizing to 5v5 teams they upsize to 7v7 and mid becomes 3v3?
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>>537520852
that is not an excuse to proc it 1 time in 8 minutes.
if you're dying 4 times you have ample opportunity to at least SHOOT the people killing you.
fuck off, shitter.
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>>537520797
might as well give it a try, thanks. Even if it feels a little bit like cheating
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>3 teammates with less than 10k damage at the end of the game

what do
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>>537521028
the only "cheating"-esque bit in there is the aspect ratio which gives you more FOV.
the rest is just pure optimization.
you can easily remove the FOV bit by just ctrl+Fing the file and removing the aspect ratio line.
I get a perfect 60 FPS 98% of the match because of it when I would general hover around 55 FPS
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>>537521050
start funny RP of your character in chat
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>>537520704
Congrats, winning while knowing a RQing fag gets a penalty is the best feeling
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>>537521050
Say gg and then queue up again for another match.
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>>537520975
That just makes the problem worse.
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>ivy is just IO

I genuinely think the reason why dota is so good is guinsoo and not icefrog. If Ursa attacks you with w on you know you back off and kit him, even a newb would know that after one time dying to him, that learning curve doesn't exist in deadlock.
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came back after a few months and good lord I feel so washed
everyone plays so optimally now
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>>537519859
3 deaths really isnt that bad compared to what ive seen
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Should I make a new account? My first games were on Vindicta with like 15wins and 35 losses. My rank/mmr seems fucked. I have 60% winrates on the characters I play with like over 200 games but I think I'm still in Seeker. I remember being in Ritualist when they first introduced the badge system, but I just started playing again and I'll get maybe one arcanist/ritualist game out of 10.
Or is this game's mmr just fucked?
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>>537521917
I think MMR is just fried at the moment
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>>537521917
Pretty sure the game's mmr is fucked right now.
I think they will just reset rank when the game is out.
For now, I will just enjoy playing relaxing matches in Initiator.
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>mobadota mixed with a shooter
this game is literally fentanyl for russians
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>>537520987
Quit acting like a baby. 1 time in 8 minutes is bad but that doesn't mean it's not the hardest on-hit proc to get in the game
>Statlocker says 60% accuracy is 50th percentile
>It takes 5 hits to proc Love Bites
>If we're generous and assume all shots are against 1 player, a 50th percentile accuracy Mina will take 8.33 shots to proc love bites
>Mina has 12 ammo
>That means it'll take an average player ~70% of her mag to get 1 proc of love bites.
>So if you get attacked at basically any time other than immediately after reloading, you probably don't have enough ammo to proc it
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>take some of my ADHD friends addy to see if it does anything for my deadlock skills
>spend 30 minutes beyond locked in
>lose anyway because I need to take a 2 minute break to violently shit
>now extremely tired at work because I spent the entire night staring at the ceiling
never again
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>>537521917
MMR is just fucked because of rank decay and all the returning players, just don't worry about it and play the game.
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my MMR would be 2k higher if I could stop playing mina
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>>537521917
Probably a combination of both, rank decay fucked the ranks pretty hard since a bunch of people returned to the game after getting decayed for like 3 entire ranks. That's why there are so many initiate matches currently when it used to be rarer than eternus 6.
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>>537522165
>rank decay
is there? Is started playing again and I didn't move one bit from where I was (I seem to be jumping ranks a lot between wins and losses though)
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>>537522462
Yes. I was oracle 6 like 5 months ago, and when I started playing again because of this update I was put into like ritualist 2 or something.
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>>537522113
Good thing there's an item that can increase your ammo counts and help noobs that can't aim to have a few more shots in.
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>>537522129
you probably need to microdose it, retarded russian.
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>play game with a viktor who sold all of his items to buy new t3 items
He only had 4 items, what was he thinking?
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>>537521917
I accidentally tanked my mmr by playing lots of mo and krill when i was new and now I am stuck steamrolling almost every fucking game in Seeker but still not being allowed to promote it fucking sucks
The worst part is that I need to win three games to go from V to VI, but if I lose one I go down an entire rank for some reason. Valve genuinely wants me to stay here and gatekeep
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>>537522919
this is your new calling
you are the gatekeeper of alchemist
you choose who ranks up and who doesn't.
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>>537522753
I'm a proud gun owning American thank you very much
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>>537522919
>dynamo player
lmao you really are a gatekeeper
you're the movement test
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how has nobody made a porofessor type app for this game yet?
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>>537521619
Guinsoo was a retard
I remember posting in those old dota-allstars forums
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>>537513702
it's just that easy bros
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>>537518165

is that the guy from the rabbids game!?
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>>537523286
>porofessor type app
A what?
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lmao people are suggesting so much dumb shit for mina when her only problem is that despite having infinite scaling her ultimate falls off late game

fix or revamp the ultimate and shes strong
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>>537523398
in game plugin that shows you your teammates stats, what they play, their winrates on their characters, important info about that player like "has 200 games on Dynamo" or "bad with dynamo (35% winrate)
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>>537523286
statlocker is pretty advanced and the game isn't even out yet. I'd expect it to get better over time or get overshadowed by competition
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>>537523561
Sounds like one of the most toxic inventions ever
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>>537523561
Reread the OP
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>>537523653
in what way?
it's an extremely helpful tool to let you know who the weak links are on the enemy team and who your strong players that you should play around are.
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Mina being so weak was an experiment.
Yoshi wanted to see if the playerbase would keep picking her despite her dogshit winrates by virtue if appearance alone.

Valve got the answer.
And thanks to this expect Yamato to become a mature beauty and almost every future female hero to be just as pretty.

Apologize to Mina.
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>win like 13 matches
>still Seeker
>lose twice
>rank down
I hope matchmaking and ranking is fucked as you guys say because this feels like shit.
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who is capable of doing more damage, Abrams or Victor?
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>>537523698
are you talking about statlocker? because unless you're picking each name individually and parsing all that data yourself before the game even spawns minions, that's not what i'm talking about.
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>Play Doorman
>If I don't like a hero or a player personally pisses me off just gank them all game
>Hide in whatever lane they're in so I can hate crime them with knockdown + cart
>Ult them during every team fight
Feels kino except when they buy debuff remover
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>>537523794
it's definitely fucked, don't take it personally and just work on your macro and soulmaxxing. You're probably not bad, just mediocre
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sinclair is pretty fun
I like throwing magic missile and deleting people
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Here's your mina skin, bro.
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can't end on a loss so I had to play the old reliable
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>>537523789
I apologize to noone about nothing. Fuck Mina, fuck gameplay and fuck that egg laying lizard of a developer.
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>>537523884
literally just play the game
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So why is Billy a punk with a SMG that clearly doesn't fit the time period
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Best guides to watch to git gud?
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>>537524104
Holy shit it's Arcade Bumstead.
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Play against a drifter/paige or a victor/paige lane and you can't win it unless they share a braincell between them.
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>>537524223
for future reference, if you don't know the answer you could just not reply
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>turn off rank changes
>turn off match rank display
Yup, it's casual matchmaking time
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doorman should get to place doors freestanding on the ground
i've gotten killed a few times already from buggy placement mechanics
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>>537524425
paige with almost anyone that does damage early is a free win
her shield lets you win every single fucking trade it's so annoying
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>>537523004
But I don't want to stay in Alch forever, players get better and stop being whny pieces of shit in the higher ranks, don't they?
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>>537523884
>I must 100% optimise my entire experience to be as computationally perfect and sterile as possible
I refuse to believe anyone can have fun doing this
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>>537523789
It's because Mina's kit is good. Vindicta, Holliday and Geist didn't have similar pick rate despite good appearance.
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>>537524353
Open youtube and search "deadlock pov [hero]"
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>>537524634
>players get better and stop being whny pieces of shit in the higher ranks, don't they?
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>>537524487
The door placement is genuinely tempting me to stop playing him and return to my old one-trick. At least half of the deaths on him have been from me being unable to place my escape door during a push/farm steal
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>>537524665
it's also really good to flame people flaming you.
you just go "you have a 44% winrate over 100 games on your main btw"
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>>537524859
the fact that ghost closets just barely don't fit doors is so fucking ass
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>>537524885
My apologies anon, I couldn't see the vision.
I take back everything I said.
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>>537524104
We need a Shiki skin for Shiv
>throws knives
>does a chunni dash slicing attack
>has an instant kill ability where he leaps forward and stabs you
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>>537524859
>place my escape door
you should have it already set, it lasts a while and placing it TO escape is bad since you can't insta close the door unless it's prepped meaning people can easily follow you.
there is literally no downside to just having it pre placed.
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>>537524634
>players get better and stop being whny pieces of shit in the higher ranks, don't they?
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Mina should get a maid that gets added to the game as a hero. Give her a tank/peeler kit so she's gets both the qt pickrate boost and the tank drooler winrate boost.
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>>537524445
for future reference, you don't need to be so clinically afraid of the unknown. You will never have control over everything, why not learn to roll with it?
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Spell parry should upgrade into spellbreaker
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>>537525037
>place first door behind tower
>hehe time to dive
>ohshitifuckedup
>try to place second door on wall
>there's a small bump sorry
>die
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>>537525072
Honestly true

Make her maid a werewolf
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So how do I counter Victor?
Is the best bet to ignore and run away from him as long as possible while killing his team and save him for the last?
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>Chunie made a billy image
we are so back
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>>537524634
Oh yeah, there is no whining that's for sure.
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God I wish Bebop was a good hero. Or that he was just Pudge 1:1. I want to hook niggaz but queueing Bebop rn is legitimately trolling
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>our ivy specializes in stealing all of the farm from our side of the map
>does nothing with it, won't even push
I hate this fucking hero and everyone who plays her
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>>537525418
thanks, babe.
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>>537522113
Additional stats
>Mina has a firerate of 3.97
>Using our previous numbers, this gives ~2.1 seconds of shoting to proc
Compare that to Infernus
>Body shots build up 9% of his proc
>27 ammo
>9.52 bullets/second
>this gives ~70% of mag to proc as well, but only ~1.9 seconds to proc + he has more ammo overall so it's more generous
>and he has additional buildup on headshots
>>537522675
Buying ammo on a character with 12 ammo is fucking stupid, but I'll also compare a top-tier Mina against a top-tier Infernus.
Let's assume Mina hits 80% of her shots and misses 20%, while Infernus has 15% headshots, 65% bodyshots, and 20% misses (this has him with an extremely good accuracy, but average-ish headshot rate)
>Mina: 5 shots / 0.8 accuracy / 3.97 shots per second = 1.57 seconds to proc
Infernus: (15.4% per headshot * 15% of shots being headshots) + (9% per bodyshot * 65% of shots being bodyshots) = 8.16% per shot (on average, including misses)
>100/8.16 = 12.25 shots to proc
>12.25/9.52 = 1.29 seconds to proc
This means it'd take our average Mina 10% longer to proc Love Bites compared to our average Infernus, and 22% longer if we have a top-tier Mina vs an Infernus who's really accurate with bodyshots but has a fairly normal headshot rate.
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>>537525418
This but seven.
I actually haven't had an Ivy do that but I agree broadly, it's like my least favourite player type. In Dota as well. The most likely person to flame their team as well, despite being the main culprit behind everyone's lack of farm.
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>>537525306
>no goatee
>no goat eyes
>no pits
>no musk clouds
>dick for $$$
it's still over
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>>537513702
Perfect example where the enemy team has the late game group and you push early and win the game before the 30 minute mark. Finally getting how to Victor is fun. Just wish the skill bug didn't exist.
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>>537525418
Gun Ivy has been raping me recently. Armor legitimately doesn't matter against her, and if I metal skin then she can just escape freely and I can't force her ult because I can't catch her, or I can't escape because God forbid I overextended to grab a bridge buff or my own farm. I knockdown her and then what? I go up to her, she melts me or a teammate peels for her and my team either doesn't care or does nothing about it. I had a fucking Ivy just shoot at my walker for free for 2 minutes and no one responded to help, she was so confident because she can just fly away. Fuck that hero.
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statistically speaking, someone out there has to be THE unluckiest player in this game and it really makes me wonder how their matches go. I really wish I could just ask an AI to find that profile.
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>>537525306
Isn't he a normal guy from the neck down?
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>>537514318
Personally was a techies main even before his rework. Was fun getting reported every game despite winning, but I did cause games to go 50 minute mark every time. Current techies is still amazing and look up Techies Official that russian kid knows how to play the hero to perfection.
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>>537525676
>Perfect example where the enemy team has the late game group
Victor and Drifter are on your team though
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>>537525662
it'll be up on the k site within a couple days. Chunie is very high profile and you don't usually gotta wait long.
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Im sorry for picking mina bros

She just so fun personally, she has one of my favorite laning phases in the game
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>>537525835
>[dota hero] Official
What is this trend? I watch Dota gameplay from time to time and despite not understanding shit because I have 2 hours max on it (1 hour from sandbox and 1 hour from losing a game to medium? bots) it's interesting. It seems that most of these [hero] Official channels just take gameplay from random high level players.
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>>537525865
Victor can be countered easily late game with anti healing and disables. He is super slow and just having Doorman push him away disables his entire kit.
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>enter lane
>my opponents are doorman and injun granny
>exit lane
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>Infernus dashing at me
>doorman cart him
>he's teleporting between the cart and his original dash path
>when the cart connects to the wall and should grant a stun it's a coinflip if he just teleports to the wall or juts back a couple feet and gets stunned in place 30 feet away from the wall in the original spot he was hit by the cart
>cart routinely drops multiple people if hit at the same time with cart doing the above stunning coinflip
the code for this ability is fucked.
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How do I be best Ivy possible, so Anon would like me and won't be made playing with me?
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>>537513927
This post got us Mina Ha, btw.
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I just come back to this game this week.
How often do the devs balance the game?
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>>537525991
Probably is just that, channel farms that scrape VODs or match replays for low effort content.
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>>537525072
>The Marci & Mirana of Deadlock
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>>537526692
Well probably get a minor balance update this week or nex
Probably this week

Then maybe two or three more until the actual major update in november
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getting duration extender on doorman's ult should make the baroness larger
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>>537527070
No, it should give the enemies a greater timespan to escape, duh. Instead it should be Expansion to increase the size of the pocket dimension.
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Now that I've got a taste of what Valve's REAL polished vision for Deadlock is the wait for the next update will be unbearable.
How do we cope bros?
Fucking three months until the next damn major patch.

Should they maybe bring back the boting system and just trickle down small model updates etc. for peiple to vote on?
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>>537516897
Hex hero when?
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>>537527070
>get aghanims on doorman
>make your enemies have to complete surf_kitsune to escape
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>>537525724
yes, furfags are retarded
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>>537527471
tf2 surf servers have trained me well.
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I really want to see what Valve cooks for Yamato and Sinclair's finalized models
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>>537527471
>get aghanims on doorman
>you're straight up sent to another match
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>>537527620
I've seen an alleged Sinclair model and I really don't like it.
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>>537527381
just stop playing unironically. out of sight out of mind. makes the wait better

>>537527775
describe it
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>>537527070
It will bug out sometimes and make Doorman's ass bigger instead
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>try to beam people as Infernus or Haze
>feels like neither hero really does good damage with their gun, lots of people just getting away or not melting nearly fast enough even at full build
>pick Gun McGinnis
>build Split Shot + Ricochet + Lucky Shot
>melt entire teams at once as I spray out 200 rounds at 1200 RPM while running them down with Fleetfoot and Slowing Bullets
What are Infernus and Haze even good for at this point as Gun Characters who's guns get brutally mogged by McGinnis' big fucking machine gun?
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cultist sacrifice on drifter, lads?
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>>537523398
Why does he look so disgruntled
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>>537527919
happy for you/sad for your loss
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>>537528213
Infernus gets a power spike with mercurial and tesla bullets. Then he buys EE for maximum dps. No clue about haze.
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I thought drifter would be pouncing around, not teleporting
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>>537524724
Geist is a hag she was never gonna be giga popular unless her veiny hag tits were bigger than her head and Holliday is just too plain and not nearly as cute or hot, I do agree with Vindicta, her gameplay feels gimped even if you can land all your shots.
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>>537526640
You're welcome.
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Man it feels bad killing Victor. He's literally me.
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>>537528715
>EE
Enchanter's Emblem?
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>>537529151
escalating exposure
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>>537529140
pic strongly related but with Victor when we're in the same team
(I also main Geist)
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>>537529151
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PAIGE MAKES IT FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL ANYOE
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>>537527775
Sure you're not talking about a mod?
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everytime I fight drifter he is so shit but somehow comes back with 15 kills and starts shitting on me wtf
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>>537523789
Apologize to your parents for being born retarded, Mina is trash and all players she brought in are a net negative to the game
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>>537529234
Oh. Yeah that makes sense then. But I still get the feeling it's just worse than going BRRT with McGinnis' machine gun. Just shredding the entire enemy team at once with what may as well be a bottomless magazine.
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>>537529595
he's a snowball hero, I always try to lane against him so my mouthbreathing teammates don't feed him 10 kills in 10 minutes
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>>537528213
>duration and cooldown on gun McGinnis
what the fuck are those for?
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>>537529584
I might be, either way the one I saw looked like ass
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>>537529763
Infernus has more leech potential with his dot + gunfire. As well the added mobility of his 2 is great for soaking up farm. Haze and Wraith are the more questionable carries.
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>>537527775
The rabbit one?
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>>537529923
the flat 3% healing from max specter
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am i missing anything from my victor build
he still feels kind of low impact
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>>537518180
hahaha retard.
Pain battery can be charged faster than jumpstart.

Reminder kids, silence wave is only 3200 souls!
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Why do people play a team based game but do everything possible to NOT be a teammate? I mean even if you try as little as possible to be a good/useful teammate, you will be. Yet somehow the other people on my team (and I see it happen on the enemy team too) just aren't a teammate at all. They are a "lone wolf" who does nothing good for themselves, nothing good for their team, but does seemingly always help the enemy just because they die all the time. Or "steal" their jungle and get greedy and die handing them a 800+ bag for no effort at all. Why even play at all if you're going to be such a dumb fuck?
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>>537525306
kys furfag
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>>537530112
cold gay or slowing magic maybe?
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>>537525991
He's the only Official whatever-trend you're calling that I watch. I don't know of any trends. I looked him up when I was practicing how to play techies and he has since, in like a year and a half, really grown to be a great player and he matches up against top pro players now and still does well. In any case I don't know how to answer your question.
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>ignore lifesteal meta on victor and just buy frenzy + more damage to kill people before I die instead
is it retarded if it works?
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mina base ammo increased to 20
love bite trigger damage reduced by 40%
cooldown on love bite triggering cut in half
you only get 1 stack on triggering it now
increased hp scaling so she gets like 200-300 more now by endgame
fixed mina
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>>537530426
It's a dumb idea if you don't buy spirit resist.
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>>537529923
Split Shot uptime.
>14 second cooldown reduced to 9.8
>4 second duration increased to 6.4
>More time spent spraying a wide fan of bullets that people physically cannot dodge (most of the time)
Also this; >>537530090. More Medicinal Specter uptime doesn't hurt since it's a 3% HP regen and a +35% Fire Rate buff that your team can also use.
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my victor just 1v4 for 20 seconds
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>>537530426
You need spirit res to tank the aura's self damage.
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>>537530112
If you're 3 maxxing that's pretty much the build, maybe enchanters emblem.
Gun vic uses frenzy
1 max goes CDR and tankbuster+cold front
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>>537530515
>>537530639
frenzy provides 40% spirit resist under half health
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Clicked on a whim, got techies discussion instead
Nothing in any game will ever compare to how fun release Techies was
A masterstroke in radical game design
Icefrog will forever have my respect for putting release techies in the game and Valve will forever have my disgruntlement for turning Dota into whatever the hell it is today
No game will ever live up to that level of perfect game design, certainly not Deadl*ck
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>>537529976
Is it this one? Its just a mod. I don't like it either.
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>>537527772
>playing the game
>see a random haze blink into existence, look around confused and then vanish again
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>It's another my team gets a single pick early game while our lanes are all getting pushed in then says "let's take a walker" episode
>It's another I'm stuck in a side lane on a spirit hero while my M1 teammates failgank other lanes episode
>It's another "let's go mid" after we get a few picks but everyone takes too long getting there but commits anyways and gets it stolen episode
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>>537530676
Spirit resist has diminishing returns so if it is your only item you have zero spirit resist and can easily be nuked past half health without it doing anything. Again, try it. Post results. No use theorycrafting. Put it to use and come back. I don't think it's smart at all but you can probably turn his shitty gun into a killing machine with enough items for sure. Just like any hero.
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>>537530727
>He missed out on turret miku and stunven
Lol
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>>537530826
sinclair is just a shit char design, we have leblanc at home
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>>537530526
>turns a 10 second downtime into a 3 second downtime
>literally can't miss shots with it and if you hit multiple enemies with the Split Shot you get rewarded with a damage bonus AND multiple sources of Ricochet that bounce between enemies
>basically available all the time so the enemy can never get a tangible moment to so much as breathe or feasibly dodge the damage and turn the fight around
>on a gun with one of the highest bullet damage per level in the game that can also get upwards of 200 bullets per mag and 1200 RPM
jesus fucking christ
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is unstoppable the only counter to doorman ult?
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>>537528123
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>>537530727
i won't ever forget
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>>537529373
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>>537531134
My longest game was like 150 minutes (Medusa rapier comeback).
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Has anyone here actually been killed by a Haze that wasn't an obvious smurf or child on 30,000mg of Adderall?
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>>537529140
He's gonna back up to pwn his enemies tho. Will you?
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>>537530727
OG calico could place obscene amounts of invisible cat turrets that fried people almost instantly if you put a shitload of them in one place. The one time I experienced it was when we had a calico on our team who was completely absent from any team-oriented activity the entire game and when we got back to base a microwave had been constructed in the patron's pit and it was physically impossible to lose.

They also randomly went MOW like a cat does every few seconds.

Anyway that vanished quick, Calico brools now
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>come back from business trip
>"can't wait to play Deadlock!"
>teammates feed 32 (thirty-two) kills to local hobo
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>>537531478
Let me guess: a Haze, Wraith, or Miku who just kept going off solo...
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Gaben? What is this?
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coomers should be hanged
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>>537531557
You'd be shocked. I know I was, especially since I went 10/6 as mokrill
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>>537530843
imagine how kino it would be if there was a separate fight going on for other people in the background you could watch
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>>537531604
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because you were already dead
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>>537531843
What the actual fuck?!?
How do EITHER of those two lose to drifter?!?
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>>537532093
>hideout is one of the buildings inside a match
>look outside windows to see live footage of a random game
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I want McGinnis to pin me down and have her way with me. Straight up dyke rape.
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>>537532240
She's taken.
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>>537532093
someone i know joked that instead of turning cheaters into frogs they should be locked in a room inside the baroness and have to watch from inside
this was months and months before the doorman came out and his ult was locking you in the baroness btw, albeit you can't look outside
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>>537526494
You play thwompwalk Ivy
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First clip is a build I would recommend on Victor but no EE is kind of wild. Doesn't help your team if you can't stack EE for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1bLI0rD6IA

Still what makes people go melee a fucking Victor of all things especially when this guy is 50k in farm and they are all around 20k?
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>>537532364
>50k souls at 25 minutes
Holy smurf
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always the same fucking thing
I start a game
the enemy team has all the new champs
I gotta delay any dmg items for the inevitable drifter rapetrain
we die anyway
rinse and fucking repeat

where's my 50/50
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fuck techies, give me a Meepo character
>how is he gonna work it's a 3rd person shooter
idk, you figure it out, Yoshi
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>>537532621
>Meepo
I'd like someone with minions like a werewolf who can spawn spiritual wolves who can't be killed and only attack troopers
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>hey lets 'fix' the pathfinding on dragons
>paige is completely unplayable now because half your dragons just disappear
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>>537532840
no
that's gay, lame, generic, and expected
i want specifically meepo
you just play as 5 guys and they're equivalent (not minions)
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epic mm valve thanks for putting this fucking nigger on my team
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>>537530727
release techis was garbage and valve deleted them for a good reason, good to know tech shits are still mad about it today
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>>537532943
>he wents to play with 5 guys
>calls minions gay

I want me automatic lane pushers, I don't care
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>>537532856
"free game no bitching"
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>>537533079
>Release techies were garbage

Imagine getting outplayed by techies lmao
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>>537533107
yes i do cause i mained meepo in dotarrr
and if they're stealing shit from dota anyway, might as well take the cool stuff
cool stuff that other gay mobas were too afraid to have, like LoL doesnt have a meepo. or an invoker
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>>537529373
Now thats the name I havent heard in a while, is he still alive
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Is Ult Bebop playable? That was my favorite build back then.
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>>537516374
sweaty pussy
t. sex haver
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god i love lash he's so fucking fun
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>>537530826
Its tacky but I like the idea of it. Valve should give him 2 models, a male and a female mannequin
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>>537533364
Why wouldn't it be? His ult is already fucked up. Combine it with anyone/any move that stuns or traps people. Mystic Slow/etc items to fuck people up even more. Exposure, etc. Though idk what the lowest possible cooldown would be.
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>>537533512
I do think that the concept of "two people sharing a robot body" is kind of wasted if savannah is always the assistant and henry is always the lead magician
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surrender when
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>>537532278
Lesbian relationship doesn't count
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when's the next set of Drifter nerfs
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>>537532539
wondering how he got it myself
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>>537533813
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>>537533693
They literally switch places and bicker on who's going to play better if one of them dies. Definitely need two models to reflect that
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>>537534058
Hopefully this will let me know. Seems like a streamer who smurfs though for sure.
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Doujin Name Ideas for a (You) x Mina x Paige 3-some:
Love Story
Blood Inked
Hardcover, Soft Bites
Bookmark My Neck
Written After Dark
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>>537534061
Haze arrests fags for gay sex. Sorry anon.
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is there anything more pathetic and shitty than having your ultimate be a bunch of fucking frogs
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>>537534236
Found the match. His name looks like what cheaters use. Downloading.

MatchID: 40432733
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>>537534271
That time I had sex with the hot women of valve sexuality.
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>>537534271
secret ending is I running jump from off screen and land cock first inside Paige creampieing her, teleport behind mina and creampie her too. ez no re
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>>537534429
Wtf do you have against frogs
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>>537534429
Lmao get pozzed.
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>>537534271
Captivating Love
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>>537534429
your ult being sending someone to a 5 star hotel
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woe
frog be upon ye
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Boy if you want to climb rank you BETTER be playing a pubstomper. Since a meta doesnt exist in low/mid ranks it is completely up to YOU to shrek the lobby. Your retard teammates definitely wont.
Get your drifter/victor games in before they nerf em more. God forbid we have momentum heroes in the game.
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>Get good team
>bebop nigger leaves in first 5mins
FUCK!
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>>537534797
I hope you enjoy your stay at the baroness for the 10th time in this 25 minute game.
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>>537534797
kill them with kindness
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>haven't played since shiv release
>useless the entire game because I suck
Well, was worth a try *uninstalls*
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>>537534797
It's the most haunted hotel in the tri-state area, it's probably a pretty bad time if The Shining is any indication
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>Seven leaves the teamfight to ult the walker
These numbers are not okay.
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>>537534797
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XjBIw5Xm0b4
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>>537535041
it's the deadlock universe, being haunted isn't a big deal anymore, vindicta just hangs out around new york and the only problem is that she's the punisher (and barefoot)
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>Roaming rape squad of 4 people that just gank my team even if they don't have lane
>My team never tries to respond to it
Why has this become so common
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I don't understand Pocket
How am I supposed to play him
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>>537530426
Buy fury trance instead, it gives you more fire rate and spirit resist and you can activate while your aura is still up (and it's cheaper)
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>>537534797
But this is literally the best ult in the game. Dont forget to leave the positive review on OracleAdvisor
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>>537535270
you either build gun or you're kinda useless
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I'm gonna day drink and play deadlock
It's what the labor union founders would have wanted
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>>537534515
this should be one of those 20 page doujins where each girl gets 2 pages

Alyx Vance
Judith Mossman
Miss Pauling
Zoey
Windrunner
Dark Willow
Lina & Crystal Maiden
Vindicta
Mina
Paige
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>>537535175
>being haunted isn't a big deal anymore
The playable heroes are all exceptional individuals, the average person is getting a skull fracture from a poltergeist launching a steel pot at his head. Bad time.
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>>537533303
I want to look like that IRL so bad, bros.
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this is legacy Dynamo. say something nice about him.

post more Neon Prime paraphernalia.
speculate on why Valve decided to switch to Deadlock.

https://youtu.be/xqJsU0iN_UI
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>>537531041
i just don't like his voice
they went with le wacky reddit wizard sort of like rubick
he should have been more imposing
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>>537535716
>the pinned comment
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How do you build Pocket? I really suck at this hero.
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>>537535716
Deadlock = sovl
Neon Prime = soulless
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I wonder if Bebop, Seven, Kelvin, Yamato and all the other characters who still pretty much use their Neon Prime designs will eventually get a redesign.
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>>537534818
what good does climbing rank do if you aren't actually getting better at the game?
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>>537536007
never looked at comments, let's see.
>footfags
why did you point this out to me?
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>>537536231
no they'll still look the same 8 years from now
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>>537536264
If I'm going 30-2 I'm clearly not in the right bracket.
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>>537536162
this but the opposite
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whats meta for victor to make him feel like he has midgame impact other than needing to farm for 500 years to sustain aura
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>>537536106
Also, I just realized that Pocket's reload bug still hasn't been fixed.
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>>537535716
Crazy how dogshit neon prime looked
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>>537535716
i have a scifi fatigue
and some of those character designs are concord tier
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>Paige at a glance seems like she has the worst gun in the game
>it's actually one of the best
>tfw I did 37k objective damage last game, probably my highest ever, on top of doing the most hero damage in the lobby

Starting to think Yoshi and the rest of the dev team are fucking retarded. The ricochet projectiles look like the vanish when they bounce too so I bet nobody really knows where all the damage they're taking is coming from in teamfights.
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>>537535716
I like Sci-fi/Cyberpunk, but this looks like total dogshit. Thank God they completely pivoted to Deadlock.
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>>537536614
i think spirit paige ends up being a better build, i've seen some absolutely fucking nasty paiges go full spirit nukers topping the damage charts for both player and objective
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>>537536614
Stop talking about this. Keep the focus on drifter nerfs.
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>>537535716
Not too bad for a Concord design. Bet Black hole is his passive given his own gravity field.
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>>537531082
Counterspell. Stamina Mastery, Warp Stone (technically cause this basically prevents the full damage pop)
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>>537536106
i got you anon. build attached.
>in the early game, cold front and cultist are huge damage boosts for you
>your most important concepts for pocket are majestic leap, barrage, and e-shift. majestic is your main initiator, and e-shift is part of your escape kit. barrage amps ALL DAMAGE THAT YOU DO INCLUDING YOUR ULT so it is incredibly important to hit a full barrage on people before going all in
>your main combo for playing pocket is to majestic leap into the air, barrage as many targets as possible, use majestic leap to slam down onto the largest group you see, hit your ult, briefcase for some amount of time, and then use cloak to exit briefcase (which will animation cancel using cloak), hit cold front, and then either hit e-shift or cloak teleport to get out of the fight.
let me know if you have any specific questions
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>>537536231
Kelvin and Bebop are still Neon Prime? They seem like they fit the style pretty decently at this point, though Bebop definitely needs to look a little more like a piece of shit scrap golem
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I wonder if whoever floated the initial idea of neon prime is just perpetually silently butthurt about the shift in aesthetics
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Imagine using builds and not just buying whatever items you feel like at the time.
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>>537537085
This is your teammate in pubs.
Seriously. Look at your teammates items next game.
People in ALL brackets do not understand itemization or power spiking.
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>>537537085
I only use my own builds which is just me organizing the items into different categories like any items that provide cooldown reduction or any items that provide ability duration for convenience
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>>537537085
if this game had a half-decent item shop maybe i wouldn't use builds
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>>537534797
I like how you have plently of time to counterspell, very comfy. You can stay for longer in safety or leave asap.
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>>537535716
Neon Prime as a setting was cool, but the character designs were pozzed as fuck. Kinda glad we got what we have now instead.
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>tumblr gay faggot shit
dogshit general
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>>537527389
>Hex hero when?
do these retarded porn addicts even play the game? holy shit
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>>537537085
Game is too unbalanced for vibe shopping.
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Even watching other people play Mina I just see her do okay/good in lane and then fall the fuck off and be obviously unable to 1v1 any opponent with equal or more farm while being so fragile that any attention immediately removes her from teamfights. Is this bitch that underpowered?
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>>537537717
Get ready for THE LASH
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>>537530207
yeah, keep talking to me like that and i'll have to kiss those DSLs of yours
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>>537536614
why did they reduce the size of her eyebrows!
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Geist ult says it has a 0.2s cast time but it feels more like a 20 second cast time
what a clunky ass ability
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>>537537085
>t. 0/15 gun Mina
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>>537537829
She seems like one of those heroes that'll just be overpowered or underpowered because of the nature of her kit, like shiv
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People say Haze is surprisingly nice but I never hear her say anything
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>>537537085
this is like halfway to an actual high level player mindset.
everyone is shitting on this anon for vibe shopping, but it is a crucial and core part of mobas, especially valve mobas, to itemize against the enemy team. healbane and knockdown are probably the best examples of this. these two items clear house on like 60% of the roster each, and i constantly have to remind people to buy them. i have won an ungodly number of games just by playing kelvin and correctly itemizing to counter the enemy team - sometimes that is all it takes.
way too many people get caught up in what they NEEED for their build without realizing that deviating from it will sometimes save the day for you.
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>enemy team is at our patron
>playing Lash the big man, the legend, the egomaniac, The Lash.
>get the whole enemy team in my ult
>throw them into spawn
>sextuple kill
>onions face
>quickly check to see if my shadowplay was on
>it wasn't
It's Lashover.
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>>537522753
There are no ADHD meds in russia
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>>537534797
>5 star hotel
The baroness is a dump
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>try billy for shits and gigs
>have 5k HP after meleeing two people one time
>just walk into people and drill them with headshots because the overloaded mental stack in a team fight
very epic champion I think
very fair
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why is all the porn of this game dudes like i thought the community was excited we got new coomerbait with mina and paige and we had old coomerbait with vindicta but all the fucking porn of this game is dudes and twinks and bara and manly men what the FUCK
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>>537538123
Ofc you didnt, she whispers all the time
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I actually liked the Neon Prime aesthetic. Infernus reminded me of the protagonist of Body Harvest
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What's the plan?
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>>537538206
Just download the replay
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>>537538278
>champion
>bitching about balance
league babby spotted
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>>537538302
the chicks are plain looking
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>>537538278
I haven't had much problem fighting any Billy's. He is a slightly weaker champ without items. If they aren't keeping up with souls or buying the right things, you will probably kill him easily. Especially if you focus him down and stay out of his range (ever heard of dash jumping?). No lie he is strong as hell with items though. Probably my new favorite character
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>>537536007
and this is it they are gooning over
fucking gen a and gen z are pathetic
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>>537538065
I'm not very good but she doesn't seem particularly close to tipping over the edge to being busted, like maybe if they just removed the internal cooldown for Love Bites entirely
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What are his deadlock abilities?
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>>537538467
yeah and this league babby rank mogs you, sit and bark for me.
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>>537538550
is she too old for you?
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>>537538302
As long as men look like men and women look like women I don't mind.
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>go 7-0 in lane
>can't capitalize on my advantage, feel like every lane would need me at once
>lose game
idk if it's my own fault or not, frustrating
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>what happens if Lash finally grabs the Fairfax kid with his ult
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>>537538627
Wait till the Priest is released and find out
>>537538694
He's right you know
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>play okay
>know lane and all the stuff your supposed to know
>always be in the better half of my team’s score
>seeker 3
Is rank a meme, I know I’m not amazing by any means, but worse than the average player? By a large ranking margin?
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>>537538627
He teleports to a better game
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>>537538943
post it, we'll see
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>>537539103
Ranks above Ritualist 6 are only for the teams.

t. ritualist 6
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Am I the only one that's noticing the amount of fucking stacks playing today? Like if you aren't on one you just get anally raped and you're down 40k networth. Playing at Oracle.
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>>537539103
dunniger kruger
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this place is the only place in the entire world where people get genuinely upset at the fact people play with their friends
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>gave the priest an assault rifle instead of a shotgun
what the fuck
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I just buy knockdown on everyone
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>>537537085
>>537537976
I'm always skeptical about "popular" builds. One of my friends was playing Mina, and when I asked him why he went all-in for gun he said his build told him to.
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RANKS ARE NOT REAL.

They were real when they were separated from the casual games, now they're not. This is just bullshit and I like it. Fuck ranks, I'm not autisitc. I play to win and to have fun, not for the score.
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>>537539639
holy shit how do you retards not already know that HIS ULT IS A WEAPON SWAP TO A SHOTGUN
ITS LITERALLY I N THE FILES
selecthero hero_priest
and then shut the fuck up forever
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How viable would it be to skimp out on extra mags with miku and just get fleetfoot to abuse inf ammo?
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>>537539684
same here for Counterspell

Sometimes I do it asap if I'm on the lane against Talon, Doorman or Lash
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>>537539639
>>537539837
His default weapon should be a crossbow.
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>>537540020
>slide ginnis
play Vyper
you should be hunkered in your healing field with your turrets
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>>537538943
If you are that far ahead keep your lane pushed, get their guardian, their jungle, their sinner's sac, run urn, pressure walker.
Focus Objectives. Make space for your team.
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>>537540020
I don't think she needs extra mag, just put qsr on turrets.
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Got into a rank where people pretty much completely ignore sinner's sacrifice but winning seems to give no ranks. Over.
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>>537538943
I've seen Victor just like this today. 10 kills in 15 minutes and then nothing and average damage in the end
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>>537540169
You aren't stomping hard enough.
When you start stomping your rank goes up faster.
I'm getting one rank up per game getting 20+ kills on drifter.
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>>537537976
>>537539703
I tried Spirit Mina 3 times so far and genuinely can't play her, i feel so fucking squishy all the time
I dont know how to engage enemies and always get poked the fuck away from slapping minions with my umbrella to heal
I watched roughly 10 high elo Mina games today and i genuinely don't get it, other than them having a 90+% hitrate with their gun
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I don't make my own builds. I use the top 3 builds available.
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>>537539837
ok
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>>537540169
Where can I find a ranked game?
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>>537537741
You fricking stupid or what?
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>>537539837
>ult his him going doomguy mode and switching to a classic two barrel shotgun that does insane damage for a limited time
>crazy metal plays in the background while you are in it.
>the shotgun blasts loud as fuck and very satisfying.
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>>537538271
who was the artist for this shit again? i saw him before but cant remember now
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>>537527389
Sinclair
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>>537539772
but you're always losing and gaining mmr every game you play whether you are conscious of it or not.
and the game is using that score to match you with players.
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You guys hear about this FOV mod??
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>>537539772
like 99% chance they'll do a total rank reset once the game comes out anyhow.
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>>537539772
t. seeker shitter
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where is the anon that was drawing hairy pussy and pitta paige in a micro bikini
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>>537540361
Hm okay, didn't know it work that way. Since in cs and dota wins are the most (or only) important thing
>>537540443
Every game is forced ranked
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>>537541103
>drawing hairy pussy
WHERE WHERE WHERE
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>>537539103
>all the stuff your supposed to know
doubt. i have 350 hours and i just learned about slide mantling and how to really abuse it.
besides, the amount of players i see that DON'T shove lanes--even in my shitlo in arcanist-- goes to show that game knowledge is not commonplace at all
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anyone in da secret beta got any hot goss about the venator? is he cool?
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>>537539516
No shot
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>>537539837
I think you may be stupid. Anon meant he wants his default weapon to be a shotty
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>>537541387
Slide mantling is a pretty new tech to be fair, only a couple of months old afaik.
>>537541387
>the amount of players i see that DON'T shove lanes--even in my shitlo in arcanist
The game has two types of team, the ones that never stop pressing W and the ones that never move to the enemy's half of the map. Jesus, I had a match with fucking Billy in which I had the highest objective damage because no one in my team would take walkers
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I'm unable to win a single match with Billy. I feel like the character sucks shit and his weapon is garbage. I cannot engage on anybody because I melt and it feels like the combo of 3 1 2 1 deals shit damage.
I've never seen a goat not feeding his ass off either, but I'm a shitter so maybe there's something that we low level trash are not seeing
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>>537541259
>Since in cs and dota wins are the most (or only) important thing
I have a 65% winrate on my main, Ivy. Takes me 5+ wins and 0 losses to uprank.
I have a 95% winrate on Drifter. Takes me one game to uprank.
Since there is no meta in any pub match you should be pubstomping with fotm broken characters if you want to rank up.
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>537541532
Billybro btw.
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Fixed Billy
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>>537539703
Someone made a noobtrap build and posted it fucking kek
>>537540380
You dont, shes just bad
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>>537541654
I'm in initiate and I'm constantly top frag with him by just building gun. People rarely parry so you can just heavy melee them with crushing fists
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WHY ARE YOU GEIST
WHO SAID AM GEIST
YOU ARE GEIST
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>>537541915
the lines don't even play
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>>537540380
That hero just fucking sucks and needs items from all 3 categories AND a sizeable lead to be effective. Doesn't help that she has one of the worst guns in the game and dies to a stiff breeze. And 2Stam, to boot.
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>>537540105
I did all that, took most of their jungle actually. Just wasn't enough
Was on mid so the walker pressure was harder
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>>537535274
cheers, i bought both of them and skipped emblem and it works great
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juggernaut>>>fleetfoot

Worth every soul
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I just watched our Drifter lose a fight with their support/spirit build Paige...
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>>537540939
They wont do this. They didnt do a clean slate for dota 2.
They might say they will but will keep internal MMR hidden.
Their is no unranked matchmaking anymore. There will never bee unranked matchmaking in a game again.
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>>537532364
EE only works for your own damage mate
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>>537542402
If you are playing in a pub with 5 retards (and you are) there is nothing you can do but mind your own business. Teamplay literally cant exist when your teammates refuse to communicate in any way.
The only difference in this regard between your team and the enemy team is that YOU are on your team and the enemy team is 6 retards.
Unless, of course, you are also a retard.
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>>537542629
I just saw a victor with 90k souls 1v5 at 50 minutes
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>>537543017
That's normal.
Victor is a raid boss after 30 minutes.
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How do I play holliday anons? I just tried her for the first time and she's weird, I don't understand what I'm doing
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>>537542935
Yeah, figured. I miss the higher elo lobbies where I was last year, with a properly communicating team it was a lot more strategic and interesting
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>>537543017
its toxic as fuck but i hope they never remove the cleanse from Victors 2.
its just fun to remove Bebop bombs and knockdowns and shit 3 times a fight, and if anything you really do desperately need it anyhow to not just be a minion damage sponge.
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How many hours do I need to sink before I stop being ass?
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>>537542629
Drifter isnt as strong as people make him out to be. He is a snowball character. Without momentum/isolated kills he is doodoo.
I saw someone bitching in game about his 1 doing too much damage on too short a cooldown and I was blown away when geist can lagbomb you and granny talon can shoot buses at you on shorter cooldowns with access to extra charges.
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>>537543114
hit q to melee the barrels
they are a reliable nuke that gives you free headshots and hold targets in place to lasso
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>billy teammate going 4/16 keeps running urn and immediately gets jumped by three people at the delivery spot
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN
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>>537542245
Yes I can read too, but I liked the idea and as long as it isn't 4th wall breaking I believe it shouldn't be scrapped.
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>>537543301
I'm 20 hours in and I still get lost in the map, and I can barely find the objectives
I only know how to reach the midboss consistently
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>>537543301
Are you over 30 and/or not macro-dosing Adderall?
Don't even bother.
Just accept that the 15 year olds on enough legal-speed to kill a horse will always be better.
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>>537543301
Probably a few hundred if its not coming to you naturally. Maybe a thousand. Not being hyperbolic.
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>>537543301
Doesn't matter it's a team game.
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>>537543445
20 hours isn't that much realistically. When games can regularly go to 40 minutes that's very possibly less than 35 games especially counting the time not actually playing in the menus or hideout. You're still a newbab, don't worry about it.
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>>537543408
this is based because you can just push the other lane and get a free building
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>>537543445
It's normal, i was fucking fuming first games, because i couldnt find fucking shop.
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starting to think siphon is core on billy
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>>537543803
siphon is core on everybody
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>>537540169
Alchemist? Same here bro
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>>537518180
These are terrible ideas. Victor is not that strong, the purge is the only thing keeping him from being terrible. Plus the entire point of his character is being hard to kill, why are people so adverse to that.
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>>537543240
Nah I'm going to actually second this, I haven't had so much fun in a game since playing raidboss Victor. Between the jump start dispel, movement options, and all the other macro to keep yourself alive long enough I just think he's the most fun you can possibly have. Like the dispel on its own isn't even that strong if you don't have the farm to back it up. Just nerf the other areas so it isn't so easy to become a raid boss until lategame.
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>>537543445
The arrows in the minimap indicate neutral camps, the squares are slot machines (punch them for souls), if you see crates/buddhas smash them for souls and buffs and if you're really lost just go straight into one direction until you find a lane. Above all else, everything that matters is under the zip lines, so don't worry too much about memorizing every part of the map.
I remember getting lost in the underground when I first found it, it was pretty fun.
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>>537543301
mobas take 100h just to get acclimated. They should be treated as a hobby, if you want to get comfy mid level. Unironically you will progress and learn faster playing RTS like starcraft
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>>537544034
they should take 10m of range from his stink aura and put it on his ult
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>4 minute queue
deadlock more like...
deadlock...
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Stop telling noobs to play Abrams. First and final warning.
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Can any art friends replicate this wonderful screenshot with Victor and some bros?

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-j4qFR3wg
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>>537544568
Or what?
>t. was told to play Abrams and still playing him
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>>537544148
1v1 RTS is faster to learn because there's no teamplay element
the chaos of so many people interacting makes decision making take so much more mental overhead
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>>537543445
This does have probably the most complex map of any moba, it takes a bit just to learn anything outside the lanes.
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>picking up urn and pretending I run to claim it
>all the retards in the enemy team ball up near claim spot getting ready to jump me
>just 180 and throw it away while 2 niggas blow up their walker and inner guardians on the opposite side of the map
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>enemy has victor and drifter
>they both know how to collect souls
>guaranteed loss
I get that it's an alpha but man they really need to do something about these guys
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>>537545141
It's still very 2d-ish at its core, there has to be a way to improve the verticality without making any lane an autowin for Lash
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>>537545263
Newfriend here, how do you drop the urn without being damaged by the enemy?
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>>537535716
it's amazing how much of Deadlock is still Neon Prime.
I think there's enough generic sci-fi already, a saturated market with specific expectations, and the noir aesthetic of Deadlock is much more unique.
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I've drawn more Mina
https://files.catbox.moe/ckkkk5.png
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>>537545617
If Valve listened to SBI and continued with Neon Prime, they would have yet another bomb on their hands, and Valve really needed a win with all of their recent games being ass.
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>>537545854
Nice
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>>537545854
kill yourself pedo
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>>537545854
HUOOOOOOOOOOH
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This game is so much more unfun than normal mobas when you're playing from behind
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>>537545854
holy based
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>>537545854
Mina cunny??!?!?!?!?! AND SEDUCING AN ADULT? CORRECTION NEEDED.
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>>537545854
Are you the guy that made the Paige Microbikini armpit/pubes drawings?
Post them. Now.
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Lady Geist is not for me, or the build I was using sucked ass
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>>537543301
100h to understand the game on a basic level
500h to be average but still shit
1k to be alright
Anything beyond that? Genetics.
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>>537546145
no vision mini game makes a huge difference
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>>537546145
Yes. It really feels like diarrhea while camping.
If I'm buying defensive items early my brain completely shuts down.
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>>537544568
we need a moray eel hero
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Paige secretly has one of the best guns actually. Get split shot and its fucking over
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>>537545514
You mean claiming it? You need team coordination for that or being so ahead you don't mind sticking your head out to tank hits
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>>537545514
Press f.
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its really hard to not be an asshole when the game quality at low mmr is toilet-tier with players not even knowing that the minimap exists but ill do my best
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>>537546579
Nah we need Octodad as a crossover character
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>>537545854
Basado
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i think i will delete deadlock
the game has the same problem as dota 2
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>>537547620
what problem is that
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someone have the Ivy Kudzu bomb version of this?
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PLEASE FUCKING GOD TELL ME HOW???
how the fuck do you play against drifter??
its like if he manages to get like 3 early game kills its gg not even close.
he just gets to the point of jumping 1v5 and winning.

and i genuinely do not know how you play against him. every other hero you can counter build but against this homeless retard you need like several 6k items just against him i feel.
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>>537547901
no team play on ranked you need premade team to climb ranked
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The music is kino
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>>537547901
that he suxs at playing it lmao and get unironically depressed when loosing kek
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Have there ever been any successful 1v1 moba games and/or gamemodes? Or is that not really a thing?
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>>537546145
This game doesn't have a real comeback play. It's impossible to stall the game because 6v6 is too much for this tiny 3-lanes map without any vision control.
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>>537548247
Just ward his jungle
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>>537545896
why was neon prime dei?
>racist japanese samurai stereotype "POWA SRASHU"
>racist sumo so fat he has his own gravitational pull
idk inferno voice lines compared to infernus, but a black man that has voice lines about not working with the feds is current infernus in deadlock.

just because they consulted with SBI doesn't mean they took anything from it.
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>>537548385
if you are 50k and other are 30k im done
there like 15 other games i can spend my time playing
fuck this shit game
enjoy your deadgame
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>>537548529
Dota 2
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i wonder what the winrate is when billy, victor, and drifter are all on the same team
it has to be like 80-90%, right?
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>>537548529
street fighter 6
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this games matchmaking is hot dog shit
>hey bro here's 5 supports on one team, enjoy!
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>>537548983
finna throw loop victor
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>>537549057
only doorman & paige can't build gun
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>>537548529
Starcraft
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late game victor is so funny to watch, he can't die. If your team is backing you you win the teamfight.
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>>537549057
this game sucks
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>>537549149
we tried but that doesn't change the fact that you don't have a steroid on any of these characters.
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>>537549057
Why are Drifter and Victor always in the same team anyways? And 80% of the time it's the enemy team, fuck that.
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When will Valve add a Chinese hero to deadlock?
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>>537548529
god I wish
1v1 hero RTS would be fun
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>>537548529
RTS?
Actually, many boardgames might just have 1v1 modes that match your description.
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Add a car into game.
It is fueled by sovls. miniguns in headlights, 007 style
Ability 1: hydraulic suspension
2: Let another player on passenger sit, catapult him out on activation
3: extend chainsaw blades from the sides
ult: NFS soundtrack starts playing, sound stun, can infinite drift and knock people around
Boom ez design gg
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>>537537037
Kelvin is a Deadlock design. Viscous is currently using a reskin of Kelvin's Neon Prime model.
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>>537549336
I want an axe gang member as a rival to Yamato
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>>537549336
Plastic face
Plastic eyes
Plastic skin

Next.
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>>537549560
his body is, but it's also a retooling instead of being fully original like the 6 new heroes + mirage/raven
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>>537542906
That's fucking false you stupid fucking nigger. Stop spreading misinformation.
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I stopped playing with my friend because he refuses to play anything but Mina and it was costing us a bunch of games
He has 30 matches and 6 victories with her
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>>537513702
Imagine the smell of her tail
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>>537549552
This was what Wrecker was supposed to be...
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>>537549946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN1Z1tZBHd4
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>>537545854
Holy pedocringe
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>>537524885
>give zoomers access to technology
>they use it to stalk people in an unranked pre alpha game

grim
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do you think ivy smells like a pool
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>>537550090
>dated video
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Are you guys a fan of the social distancing item
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>>537549946
>>537550090
Also just in case seeing the damage numbers isn't enough for you, let's read the item description shall we?
>Dealing Spirit Damage applies a stacking Spirit Amp that increases your Spirit Damage to the target.
Notice the keyword there?
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>>537549149
>page cant build gun
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>>537549946
Watch your mouth
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>>537550348
Andrew speaks like such a fucking faggot.
However nothing personel kid.
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>>537549315
>ivy doesnt have a steroid
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>>537550330
Here are all of the patch notes for Escalating Exposure since that video was uploaded in reverse chronological order

>Spirit Amp per Stack increased from 4% to 4.5%
>Max Stacks reduced from 14 to 12

>Cost reduced from 7250 to 6400.
>No longer grants +125 Bonus Health.
>Spirit Resist on Spirit Damage reduced from -12% to -8%.
>Spirit Resist increased from +15% to +20%
>Max Stacks reduced from 20 to 14.
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>>537550348
I prefer the SNAP instead
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>>537550550
>>537550348
For the love of God stop watching youtubers grow the fuck up.
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>>537547901
The game isn't fun because it's only designed for esports and not people who just play games for fun
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>>537549981
Based friend for playing for fun and your a try hard little bitch for caring about mmr in a beta test
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>>537550258
she will smell like freshly stirred cement when I'm done with her
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>>537550684
>i'm a complete shitter therefore the game's design is bad, not me
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>>537550604
Alright. I was proven wrong. I'll be honest until Victor I didn't build this item, however since it's a debuff on enemies in any other game in the universe that means amplified damage for your entire team but Deadlock be different.
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>>537550684
Doorman is 100% a for fun clip farming character not esports
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>Dynamo ults entire enemy team
>Pop Mina ult
>I do 0 damage with with 70 bats
?????
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>>537550954
It works like that for mystic vulnerability just not for the stacks from escalating exposure. So the 8% or whatever it is from mystic vuln applies to your team's damage still
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>>537549057
>supports
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>>537551006
stop playing mina
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>>537549057
You have a gangrape ult combo though
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>>537550987
yeah you say that until some random asian dude sinks 1k scrimmage hours into him
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>>537550682
He will keep posting if you keep replying
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>>537551141
Release more attractive female characters then
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s-still positive WR
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We can't see what skills enemies level, but we can items.
Imagine what the game would be like without being able to see enemy items.
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>>537550684
A game fully focused on esports wouldn't dare to have half of the fun goofy shit that currently exists within Deadlock.
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>>537551228
ricing bugmen arent an average player's problem tho
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does full-channeling dynamo's lvl1 heal also give your allies the movespeed buff?
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>>537551006
If you waited for Dynamo's ult to almost be over that's still useful for the silence so they can't fight back when it's over, but her ult does a fixed amount of damage, if there's 6 people in it it's that same damage divided by 6 to each of them and they really won't feel it. Getting in, using her 1 to hit all of them would probably do about as much.
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>>537551486
Wrong. Deadlock is 100% esports focused with ranked matchmaking being the only available mode.
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>>537550779
He is not playing for fun, he keeps raging and complaining about the entire team except himself, which only makes it worse when he mains a dogshit character
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>>537550682
I'll watch whatever the fuck I want I'm an adult.
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>>537551486
>Soulless denial mechanic
>Soulless box breaking time wasting shit
>Soulless jungle
>Soulless movement slop
>Multiple characters who had their build variety totally gutted for esports reasons to pidgeon hole them into being support characters only
It is 100% esports slop certified
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>>537551709
>Soulless denial mechanic
>Soulless movement slop
Ok we get it you're clueless
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>>537551709
soulless post
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>>537551709
battlerite is that way
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>>537551843
Busy work mechanics are the definition of esports shit because they need to constantly show the viewer that what's going on is so 'high skilled'
>OH HE HECKIN SLID AROUND WHILE FARMING JUNGLE TO SAVE 2 BULLETS BEFORE HE HAD TO RELOAD OMG
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>spectate Victor games
>hear this loud as fuck heartbeat
>play him
>hear no such thing
what the fuck is this?
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Pain
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>NOOOO STOP HAVING FUN STOP STOP STOP YOU'RE SUPPISRD TO BE COMPETING THIS IS VERY SERIOUS
hahahaha im sliding wheeee
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>>537513702
>still no OP update
ivy posters are useless

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/08-18-2025-update.75046/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHc
>Unofficial Stat Tracker
https://statlocker.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
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>>537551707
>I'm an adult.
No you're not.
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>>537551709

TF2 will never be relevant again
get over it
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>>537552232
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>>537552409
Add https://tracklock.gg/ along with stalock
Replace the movement docs with https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
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>>537552068
Erm, based?!
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>>537552691
:)
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>>537549149
>paige can't build gun

LMFAO
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>>537552553
Tyler McNigger said they're making a new Team Fortress game, do you think he's lying to us?
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>>537549149
>>537552829
>>537550358
I enjoy weaving between paige split shots like im playing a bullet hell
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>>537552593
Yeah Drifter should hear that, not Victor unless I hear Drifters ability eventhough I'm not spectating him?
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>>537552953
Exactly
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In the previous GOAT game, Dota, jungle creeps respawned every minute. Here it's much less frequent. I assume this was to discourage AFK farming (my favorite play-style)?
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>>537549981
>>537551641
Are Mina mains the current patch's equivalent of spy mains?
>extremely difficult character to get anything out of
>even then they're still not that good
>noobs will play them anyways
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How sweaty is it in paiges cleavage
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>>537553128
And clearly this isnt enough, jungle needs a total rework with creeeps becoming more of an another objective and not a dps check
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Oracle ult in dota 2 is shiv's passive right??
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Shadowfiend when?
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>>537552553
Deadlock will never be relevant ever
lol
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soon
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>>537553650
Does he actually have a pump action though?
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>>537553489
I absolutely love SF in Dota, but here he will be just another spirit nuker with stacking mechanic and AOE ult, not sure if we need another. What we 100% need is someone properly demonic and anomalous in looks, just like SF
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So is warden free mmr against all the new heroes except Paige?

>Mina can blink to dodge trap
>cannot use ult or else gets trapped mid/late game
>billy
>"durr I'm a dumb fucking goat hurr I'll use my only mobility to dash right into you" (gets trapped)
>Doorman
>upgrade abilities besides ultimate so even if he ults you, he wastes it and you pop out full health with a strong gun
>Drifter
>the panic that sets in when he's holding W at you, but you are also holding W at him
>Victorchad
>just unfortunate that his entire kit makes him get stuck in your trap, and you can just run away and make him eat damage for your team

Paige is the only one that stymie what you want to do. none of the other new heroes are good at kiting, with the exception of Mina, but then she's always in danger as long as she's ulting. I've been buying tanky items and majestic leap for quick rotations. You're too tanky to be worth ganking so you can splitpush safely, but also take the heat for your team in early/mid engagements. Plus, all the issues that were laid out for the new heroes, they really like it when Warden shores them up. Drifter getting too much heat, but wants to dive in? How about a noisy screeching warden to land into the enemy team?
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>>537553340
This is why you do what League did and make sure all high skill cap characters are ugly niggers nobody wants to play and everyone hot is easy
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Could an illusion hero like PL work here?
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>>537554237
I don't want my game to lag, so no thank you.
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The map is unironically too small now
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>What's that, he's won 70% of his games recently? Okay just go ahead and give him 8 full mongoloid retard teams and place him into games that are clearly against hyper coordinated 6 stacks on a discord call
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>>537554185
Warden is the main character, everyone free mmr to him
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>>537554237
Yeah, but people would endlessly complain.
I hope they do it.
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give me a rat ivy build
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>>537554185
>>just unfortunate that his entire kit makes him get stuck in your trap, and you can just run away and make him eat damage for your team
His 2 t1 gives a big speed boost to escape it, and at t3 it straight up clears the trap.
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>>537550592
>10% ROF is comparable to what haze infernus mirage mina seven wraith get
please kill yourself soon you disingenuous faggot
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>>537553340
Mina occupies that weird spot that crystal maiden does where you exist as bait to make the enemy team take bad fights, but you always die first, but if they don't take you out then you do a lot of damage. Her damage output with her passive is already decent, she needs to buy items like reactive barrier. Too many people are buying glass cannon items
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matchmaking is unbelievably bad I quit
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>Play Dynamo for a few games
>Now it doesn't give me anything but Dynamo unless I unselect him
I dunno about this queue system
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>>537554963
It is literally a steroid.
Just because it doesnt fit your (arbirtrary) criteria doesnt make it not one.
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>>537555142
based
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this game insists upon itself
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>>537555315
I select Geist, Mina, Vindicta, McGinnis. 60% of my games are with Geist.
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>>537555937
Actually, more like 70%
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>>537538302
99% of the porn is of Ivy what are you talking about
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>>537554792
Tesla, burst fire, quicksilver on q, titanic mag, invis, Close quarters.
Push lane, make them respond, fly away, push other lane, make them respond invis away, push lane make them respond fly away, push lane make them respond invis away.
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I'm hardstuck ritualist...and this is my story.
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>>537555895
This is actually true.
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>>537555315
>played Abrams for months
>select him, Doorman, Victor, Vyper and Ivy
>get Doorman every game
The mm works in misterious ways
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>>537556212
Note that ratting worked a lot better when teleporters were on each side of the map. I would call it non viable now.
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>>537554236
Like 90% of the "high" skill champs are either buff men or pretty women
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>>537536614
gun paige is not bad but spirit paige's ability to permanently delay the team from taking objectives means it's a lot better
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Knockdown is the best item in the game.
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Infuser
Colossus
Escalating Exposure

Oh yeah, it's Victor time.
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>Mina ult Yamato while she's ulting
>She can still immediately power slash as she's coming out of ult
??????? what a fucking useless ability
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>>537557564
Yamato is immune to debuffs while she's glowing pink, retard.
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what 3 heros should I queue as
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>>537557776
sinclair vyper calico
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>>537557776
Your father your mother and your pastor
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>win 3 games to promote
>lose 1 and demote
>win 3 games to promote
>lose 1 and demote
i genuinely think im going insane
i guess im just a seeker tier player and i will never be free
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>>537557842
All are the same priority.
I will post my humiliating results.
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>>537554237
TRVST the heist-plan
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So what exactly was Icefrog fucking thinking giving a Support a gun with one of the highest bullet damage per level of all the fully automatic/high RPM characters in the game, one of the highest fire rates in the game in general and one of the largest magazines in the game, and then for some reason adding Intensifying Magazine to the game as if specifically for her to use while also making it a 1600 soul item with the damage boost of a 3200 soul item?
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How do I win with warden more? Like I ult and do 70% to 3 or 4 people and I think my team will cleanup but theyre usually struggling with a 1v6 or 2v6 while im literally soloing the enemy team
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Something worth noting vs Drifter.
If you're trying to use Invisibility, Drifter can still hear your directional heartbeat if you're isolated and track you with it, but your bloodscent trail will be invisible to him. Although if you/Drifter enter spot radius he will immediately gain full vision of your entire bloodscent trail which can alert him to your presence even without sound as long as any part of your movement trail falls within his field of vision.
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>>537558476
I always just look at the structure damage in these posts to see everything I need to know.
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>>537558476
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>>537558785
I normally top the structure damage actually, retard. >>537528213
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I think I love playing pocket. Why didn't you guys tell me that he was the Puck stand in? Shame that his looks are meh but I can deal with it
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>>537558476
they were thinking "characters who are strictly forced to play a support playstyle suck" and they're right
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>>537558978
No need to be defensive, I wasn't insulting you.
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>>537559029
Yeah, but to the point her gun straight up feels better to use than Seven's, Infernus' or even Haze's as some of THE gun characters of this game?
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>>537559116
Sure didn't seem that way considering when someone makes a comment like that it implies one was outright greeding for kills. I just wasn't allowed to do any split pushing or early headbutting of objectives cause Warden and Mo and Krill so much as existed.
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I'm glad that modern heros are less gun centric and more skill focused because I can't aim for shit
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>>537558915
>BOO.png
???
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>>537559526
ut99 minigun
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>>537559338
Gotta work on your self-esteem brother.
Not every comment is an attack on you.
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Aiming in this game is pointless anyway when bullets are slow as shit and people can just see where the shots are going and move.
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>>537559605
Yeah but why the whole "BOO.png"?
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>>537559704
cause it scares u aaa!! hehe
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>>537554964
I'm somewhat upset I cannot get Mina as a hero to try her out because of how popular she is, but then even the half-decent people that nab her end up losing to me as warden. Why did she buy spirit burn? That doesn't help you if you get caught out, you need insurance items
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>>537559771
Why would it scare me?
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>>537559116
Pussy
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>tfw going to italy for 10 days and genuinely gonna miss deadlock

this game is literally crack
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>>537559029
except most characters are forced to play a specific way anyway lol
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>>537559883
i don't have a good response for u sorry
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stop building qsr
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>>537559795
grug turn into bats
grug no need survival items
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>>537559936
Look on the bright side you can get pickpocketed by some wops like a fun unsecured orb thieving story
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>>537559936
enjoy your rank decay
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>>537559795
>buying expensive survival items on a character that already does 0 damage
retard
If you can't survive with restorative locket + your 2 free escapes who gives a fuck you were dead anyway
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>>537559795
turning into a bat + cultist + eshift is all the survivability she can afford, she cant keep up in fights without going more damage, and if thats not enough for you the character isnt meant for you

>>537560274
>>537560354
yeah Ill try not to get stabbed before I get back
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>>537560431
Locket carries Mina's survivability
also if you can find a camp or a wave to rake quickly, that regens you up and you can go back in
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babe its time for your state mandated loss
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I would take mina to italy and we would have so much fun insulting the Vatican and making fun off all thr poor bastards that died in the coliseum before they won fame and freedom
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>>537560852
why do you think mina would even know what gladiators are
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Shiv is honestly so fucking useless now it's insane.
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why do DOTAfags seethe about League all the time but Leaguefags don't even think about DOTA?
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>>537560830
You lost the moment they had Victor/Drifter on their team. I love the new champs but holy shit some of them are busted.
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>>537560852
mina would spend the whole trip on her phone
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Do you remember?
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>>537561069
He legit needs a rework. I just want to walk niggas down with a shotty. Abrams also sucks and you need to be on methamphetamine to play pocket well
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>>537561126
Leaguefags don't even think about their own game, they just lifeblog, troon out and hornypost.
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>>537561286
>>537561286
>>537561286
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>>537560852
Nigger, her parents gave her immortality as a GIFT. Why the fuck do you think she would even be interested in some random human that's not even exceptional at anything?
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>>537561126
Leaguefags are too busy getting their state mandated loss via junglers. Wow, your jungler isn't doing their job? Guess what your entire existence is now irrelevant. Enjoy trying to 1 v 9 when they have Soul + Atakan!
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>>537559936
I was addicted to Marvel Rivals, and at the peak of my powers (top 50 worldwide with my character), I had to take a 10 day hiatus, in the form of a trip to Italy (also) with a friend. Split between exploring and hiking. I was bored for a few days and missed MR (addiction and all), but a few days later I developed an infatuation with a girl for the first time in nearly a decade, and soon after I completely forgot about Marvel Rivals and didn't touch it again for months even when I came back. No meaningless hobby like gaming could fill the void. Now however that that is gone and fading into a memory, I have reverted to my old habits.
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Intensifying Mag on Victor feels pretty good. Anyone running hybrid gun/spirit on him, or at least early gun into dummy stink tank?
>>537533119
Free feedback :^)
>>537545263
This only works in the peak of the bell curve of mmr but it does work amazing. Even better when your team is so uncoordinated that they accidentally fill the space.
>>537548335
I miss the old theme. Spooky vibes and the crescendo was peak
>>537554185
I haven't touched warden since the shop upgrade, but I just haven't been able to do as good on him for some reason. I think it's because I would yolo in with slowing hex and cold front, and with the speed reworks I'm just always chasing people. As they walk out of the cuck cage.
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>drifter in lane keeps just standing under the bridge getting swiss-cheesed by lash and victor
>keeps pinging me to "go in" on a 2/3 health lash when he is on barely 1/4 health
>after his 5th death from just standing there and getting shot I enter zen mode and accept the game as lost
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>>537558476
Look another lol/ow tourist realises support in this game is a meme.
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i fixed mina and drew haze
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>>537534797
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>>537561152
But his team is the one with those heroes?
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>>537554185
What items do you typically go?
Also, Paige has the unfortunate effect of having only 2 stamina, which Warden quite enjoys. Otherwise, Paige is probably the most versatile of all the new Heroes. Even though I literally only go Support anyways.
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>>537566167
How does carry Paige work?
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>>537558476
It feels odd. I try gun Ginnis all the time and yet, eventually I feel like my damage drops like a rock and I can spray down someone like Haze or Talon with mass fire rate and they might get "close" but it's never enough.
What build do you have?
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>>537566568
I wouldn't really know, but I assume you get split shot, fire rate and plenty of Spirit, then Shield yourself for the damage buff and fire rate. Or if it's spirit, get lots of range and be area denial
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>>537563451
cute
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bump
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>>537576812
kek



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