Playable King Kai = Pure Soul EditionLatest:Project Multi is now known as Gekishin Squadra.XV2 Daima DLC releasedShallot DLC released for Sparking! ZEROJump: Gathering announcedDRAGON BALL Z: KAKAROT -DAIMA- Adventure Through the Demon Realm Part 1 Launch Trailerhttps://youtu.be/BPfh7-8Bdlc [Embed] [Embed]http://youtu.be/v_8qBd-K7SQ [Embed] [Embed]https://youtu.be/WYNsTMcQBg8 [Embed] [Embed]>Useful links:rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga 3 DLC on the way, release date TBA>Festival of Universes 3 ended, both Universe 6 and 11 won twice between 4 platforms.SDBH News/Resources:>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24>SDBH Database: www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/>Deck Autism: rentry.org/sdbhdecklistDBSDV news:>SDV3 leaked: More Frieza saga, SS3 Goku (Mini-Daima), and Gomah as notable GDRs and Giants returning as an Action Skill>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges>Avatars can also equip accessories and level up a skill tree>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot:>Daima DLC Part 1 will release on July 17th 2025>Daima DLC Part 2 will release in early 2026DB The Breakers:>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)Thank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>537038131
>>537526092ulltimate butouden was great
dang, I was about to make a thread> (embed) [Embed] [Embed]>didn't add new Gekishin Squadra trailer/release date
>>537526092Goku fucking Videl has updated: https://exhentai.org/g/3515195/b3e7b84376/
>>537526551That's something we need to remember for next thread
Might take care of last thread's requests today.
>>537528104Based
>>537528104When you're done can you create a link to all of your drawings posted here? I missed a few.
Goku...A SHIT!
>the Texas anime ban has started
>>537541560I thought it was Land of the Free?
>>537526092>>537526423Now that this game got translated, when are we getting mods for it?
>>537541664Only as long the kids are protected.
>>537541560Fucking rip classic Dragon Ball, DBZ and beyond is all you guys are getting.
>Fun discussion about whether or not Vidro has glass skin last thread>Went to sleep>Thread is archived the next day>Think something interesting happened>Redschizo againGod damn it...
>>537541919That also includes "the lost episodes" of GT, shit's fucked.
>>537542005we're not bullying that loser harder.
>>537541816We need sex and violence back. Fuck dem kids. Just not in the way Politicians do behind closed doors.
>>537542005Sex icon
>>537542795Yes.
>>537542005He still mad his shitty waifu lost to Red, don't mind him.
>>537541560What does this mean for Funimation/Crunchyroll and Sentai Filmworks? They sorta operate there.
>>537541560>Entire political class fuck kids>You know what will REALLY save kids? Banning shows that aren't troon shit!
>>537546561Insanely based Pan>IS THE NEW SPARKING ZERO TRAILERI don't think we ever had a date
>>537546596It's never about kids anyway. It's just a way to snowball censorship so the country becomes authoritarian. Just look at UK!
>>537546863All the US, UK and Europe are all rolling out the same laws with the same justification
>>537546561>Dragon ball censoring her pussy>It's transparentNice.
>>537546596>>537546863>>537547193it's all to make people worry about something other than whatever else is actually going on behind the scenes. Same with all the gender tranny shit that has been happening for the last 15ish years, which suddenly propped up to replace the "we are the 99%" protests and made those disappear overnight.
Dragon Ball?
>>537547193Yes. I used UK as an example because they're like China now.USA/Europe/Australia all decided to do similar censorship laws at roughly the same time, this can't be a coincidence...
>>537548341Yeah, I was agreeing with you and pointing out it's clearly a concerted effort all using the exact same justification.>>537548295Dragon Ball is very much affected by the texas law, just look at OG DB.
>>537548341>this can't be a coincidence...I think it's clearly related to the Epstein thing, either in an attempt to make people get sick of protecting the kids or in an attempt to redirect all that anger and interest toward anime.
>>537548489Z and GT are effected too. There's plenty of nudity, a few Roshi gropings, etc. Hell, Super's not safe either.
>>537548987>Hell, Super's not safe either.Yeah, just the TOP scene with the DQ girl could easily fall under the law for being rapey.
Texas can take my Dragon Ball from my cold, dead hands. I will not give over any of it.
>>537546415Probs moving away. They're pedos unironically.Epstein shit revealed every single celebrity is pedo adjacent at least.
>>537548987Would Daima be the only one that's safe? Panzy isn't sexualized, and I don't remember Goku getting naked either.
>>537541724Isn't it hard to mod DS games? Making custom models and animations for it would be awesome though.
>>537550043>Panzy isn't sexualizedThere are close ups of her ass and she's threatened multiple times. That falls under the texas law too.
Funny how Texas is even more authoritarian and freedom-hating than Commiefornia. Makes you think.
Texasbros, don't look...
>>537550043>Panzy isn't sexualizedJust show them all the crotch and butt shots.
>>537551002All sides hate freedom, they just hate different kinds / aspects of freedoms.
>>537551016Toriyama was so based for that.>>537546415It's funny because they operate there to take advantage of the shitty 'at will employment' laws to treat their employees like shit and now they got fucked by the same kind of bullshit laws.
For non Americans in the chat, America for all you see online is a pretty conservative nation at its core. Texas is 3x as conservative as the next most conservative parts of the country. You get all kinds of crazy shit going on there. They execute the most people with the death penalty. It's a pretty nice place to live because they have good property rights, the people are hospital, and business is easy to do over there.It isn't surprising for anyone here that Texas would enact a law like this.
Wait. Why should I care what Texans think?
>>537550742>There are close ups of her assOh, right. Guess I was thinking about her showering happening offscreen.>and she's threatened multiple times.I haven't been keeping up with that, and I had no idea just a girl being threatened would fall under this Texan law. Jesus...>>537551016>Path of Power made her barefoot too
>>537551467>and I had no idea just a girl being threatened would fall under this Texan law. Jesus...It's not about her being a girl specifically, it's about her being a little girl, violence against children being depicted is against the law too.>>537551354Because Texas is a big state, which mean a lot of money and thus everything ported / localized to the states (and most likely any english speaking country, if not the west in general) will be changed to be legally distributable there.
>>537551467It's no wonder Torishima wanted them together.It's also no wonder Toriyama didn't.
I wouldn't be worried about the Texas law. Unless you're an AI loli content creator or you like looking at pictures of Pan on your phone in public.
>>537551292>It isn't surprising for anyone here that Texas would enact a law like this.Nobody is surprised, people are just pointing out it's retarded and sperging about drawings and video games has always been an aspect of conservative culture that most people rejected. It's by playing on that angle that democrats gained so much power for so long
>>537551919>you like looking at pictures of Pan on your phone in public.I do that all the time.
Tbh you should have every media you like a ton on physical hard drives. I have all of dragon ball.>>537551354Texas has a lot of the world's biggest companies. They control a lot of US politics as a whole.>>537552381Then you have another issue.
>>537552535i was thinking of making a homemade collection of games and maybe some movies/shows where each thing is packaged on its own, each with their own box and whatnot. Though i still don't know what i should use for the actual format, i think something usb would be better for future proofing but pendrives are pretty expensive if i buy hundreds of them
>>537552882>thing is packaged on its own, each with their own box and whatnot.Eh? Each movie gets its own drive?Just get an external HDD and create a folder system.
Sounds to me like Texans are a bunch of cucks
>>537552535>Then you have another issue.Being based isn't an issue.
>>537553925Having shit taste is though. Pan is trash. At least look up a better loli.
>>537553471Well yeah, they are the 'Democrats are the REAL racists!' type.>>537554020How dare you talk about Goku's daughter like that!
>>537553925>B-based!You have a porn addiction
>>537554105I'll say it even louder for that: PAN A TRASH LOLI!
>>537554137Found the texan.>>537554187YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS!
>>537553925Based>>537554137Cringe
>>537554254You can't stop the truth, PAN A TRASH -AND- SHIT! A SHIIIIIT!
>>537554187>>537554020Pan is great and best loli. Cry harder.
>>537551254ADV Films took advantage of Texas law to create a bunch of companies to shove their assets into as they were dying. One of these of course became Sentai Filmworks, but those jokers were so bold, they literally named another one after the law they exploited, Section23 Films.
>>537554464PAN A CUTE! A CUTE I SAY!
>>537554187>PAN A TRASH LOLI!It's you! You're the "Goku a shit" anon!
>>537554561>reposting /dbs/ shitcringe.>JOBdelEven bigger cringe.
>>537554498>>537554645>>537554663She inherited the SHIT genes from Goku!
>Recognizing an obscure /DBS/ filenameFavorite historical figure?
The hegemony the collective west have enjoyed since the fall of the Soviet Union is quickly collapsing now, and like any empire in it's death throes, it becomes more desperate and draconian to try and hold onto power, and that means more and more blatant authoritarianism. These recent censorship laws across the west are all part of that and a mechanism to exert more control over what information people are allowed to see, using the veil of "child protection" has always been a trojan horse for this kind of shit to make people accepting of it
>>537554820And what are you going to do about it, Gohantard? Remove Texan?
>>537554820>using the veil of "child protection" has always been a trojan horse for this kind of shit to make people accepting of itI think they either want to exploit all the 'protect the kids' energy generated by the Epstein situation and channel it toward their powergrab OR they want to exhaust any sympathy for said 'protect children' cause by associating it with their bullshit laws.
>>537551354Because they hold they largest stake in the western anime market. If you're from the US or EU, what they do effects you. And to be honest, considering how Japanese companies have admitted to toning down the content in their works due to international audiences (read: Americans), the USA will make their issues everyone's problem soon enough, so it'd benefit you to stay informed.
>>537554993>Remove Texan?Let's be honest: Texas hasn't been culturally or politically relevant since 40 years ago.
>>537555218gero has no need for a waifubot, he'll just make another version of his wife again if he's that desperate
>>537555218Very cute
>>537555218Whomst
Okay NOW I'll work on those requests
>>537555749Good luck!
>>537555504it's elon's totally-not-misa-amane avatar for grok AI
>>537555218Another haremdroid
>>537557305Insanely based
>>537556304The west is doomed.
>>537557305Yeah I feel like the Android 21 cucking Dr Gero plot is never explored enough considering how literally everyone wants to fuck A21. Human 21 looks like my motherHow would her relationship with Hedo be?>But in FighterZ she doesn't have her mem-Let me have fun
>>537531745>>537528104We have a booru in the OP that could use some more uploads, but if you have a twitter account or something you could link that too
>>537528104How did you learn to draw? Self taught, official education, or online course?
>>537558578i suppose the issue is that we're talking about cucking an old ugly bastard who has never once talked about his wife, so there's not really much there to work with unless the mere idea is enough to get your rocks off
>>537558578>Human 21 looks like my mother Pics for proof
>>537558578>Human 21 looks like my mother>Wants to cuck her husband>Wondering about 21's relationship with her grandsonAnon, you want to confess something?
>>537558578Anon N. 16
>>537557305Made me chuckle.
>>537560751Sigmund Freud
>>537559710 I do have some accounts:https://rentry.org/xddci46f>>537560005 I just copy from other artist I like and watch theoccasional proko video here and there. Recently I also picked up ai gens and make poses when I REALLY need something to draw
>>537555749i request (You) to play xv2 with me
>>537555749>>537564770based
>>537564770 I am now training an android based on your images. You shall be replaced in T-minus 14 minutes.
>>537567145Shueisha...
I like this cabba quite a bit. He gives me fuckboy vibes. The windswept hair looks like a better GT Goten.
>>537558578I want to impregnate 21
>>537568828 Take a number and get in line
>>537573272My number is 21
>>537447214A friend wanted me to make recordings of the custom battle so I figured I might as well post them here.Least Worst Endinghttps://files.catbox.moe/s88ovw.webmTRUE Endinghttps://files.catbox.moe/jyypt8.webm
Hillbilly Weirdo Love
>>537576307This is like those animes where a girl, with no sense of personal space, is teasing a guy who gets flustered by her behavior
>>537576307>/dbg/ when seeing Goku
>>537575635Nice job
>>537576145Very cute
>>537578736Is it really Chronoa if she doesn't have a huge forehead?
I hate huge foreheads. They're ugly
>trailer for Kakarot's second Daima DLC>Monthly Legends Ultra or LF trailer>whatever Dokkan does>whatever Multi will do>if we're lucky Sparking Zero and Xenoverse trailers for their next content updatesIs that it?
>>537584814Such weakness
>>537585517I know it's not going to happen but I really hope Future Saga is the last Xenvoerse DLC. We can't keep killing purple characters forever, and putting crystals on them doesn't make it any less repetitive. We need something new. Plus it's the 10th anniversary, can't think of a better place to stop at.
>>537585517Nope no Kakarot update, which is dumb because the DLC is supposed to drop like 3 months after. But, interestingly enough, we're getting a FighterZ update.
There's never anything at the battle hour sadly.
I'm putting in a request,the trouble makers are still around and last thread the guy posted them so can we have a picture of them sitting dogza with the boss standing over them looking pissed and maybe in the corner Trunks trying to calm her down?
>>537587103Who are they?
>>537587103That'd be cool
>>537587436these three
>>537586378It bugs me that they milk FighterZ for its great esports environment and competitive play, but Bandai has completely killed their relationship with the producers of this game and have not only effectively killed it, but also made sure no other anime had a chance at getting their own FighterZ.
>>537589238>great esports environmentFighterZ was popular and a success because it was normie friendly as possible with a big story mode and literally 1 button auto-combos.
draw the bottom one in super saiyan, I don't think that hairstyle was in online was it? I know in breakers it doesn't change at all
>>537546596we HAVE to keep killing these people. they can't keep getting away with it.
>>537589238their loss is Marvel's gain – and honestly, i'd prefer Marvel Tōkon anyway, cause there'll be more playable babes. FighterZ had like 4 playable girls, and 2 of them had corny ass "summon my boyfriend" movesets.
>>537599946>FighterZ had like 4 playable girls, and 2 of them had corny ass "summon my boyfriend" movesets.It was so stupid for 18 of all people to have that in her moveset, she fought Vegeta alone...
>>537601968right? and it's not like they were hurting for "summoner" characters. the game launched with Nappa and his Saibamen, and Captain Ginyu who could summon the whole G Force. we didn't *need* three summoners.
>>537601968>>537605002Yeah but they probably wanted to include 17 in the game without making him a standalone character since he has nothing he really does that's unique besides the shield
>>537601968the fact Z 18 and Videl made it in over Caulifla and Kale is straight-up Z bias. it's just made significantly worse by the fact they're both fraud boyfriend summoners.>>537607483FighterZ also came out before the end of the Tournament of Power, so i don't know if we'd even seen 17's shield yet.
>>537607978The shield was shown first against hellzone grenadethe difference is that ToP decided to make that his signature shit because none of universe 7 actually likes working with each other despite 17 and 18's coordination being their second biggest threat besides infinite energy.
>>537607978>the fact Z 18 and Videl made it in over Caulifla and Kale is straight-up Z bias.it's just made significantly worse by the fact they're both fraud boyfriend summoners.18 is still among the most popular characters though, so of course she's making it in over other females...Most of the game is Z bias too. Even though characters are in their super era, for the most part they take after Z first, with some Super moves sprinkled in. The only "pure" Super characters in base roster are Blue Goku/Vegeta, Hit and Black, and even if we were to count others with Super influence, it's just Freeza (Level 3 after being knocked down, and Golden Freeza as a transformation), and Tien (His design straightup from Super).DLCs did even things out more, out of the 20 characters, 8 of them were from Super, 7 from Z, 3 from GT, 1 from OG (He dresses like his Super version, but most of the moveset is from OG, with Super sprinkled in), and 1 from Arcsys itself. >so i don't know if we'd even seen 17's shield yet.He used the shield back in Z, but only once. Tournament of Power greatly expanded how he uses it.>>537609291>despite 17 and 18's coordination being their second biggest threat besides infinite energy.17 and 18 only really worked together once in the manga (When everyone attacked them), whenever they had a serious fight, they fought alone, even when it made little sense (18 never tried to help out 17 against Cell, nor did 16 and 17 fight Cell together, once 16 started fighting, 17 was on the sidelines).
>>537610662 (me)>The only "pure" Super characters in base roster are Blue Goku/Vegeta, Hit and BlackBeerus too, had forgotten about him...
>>537610662>whenever they had a serious fight, they fought alone, even when it made little senseI figured that for imperfect cell its the matter that they're still in fucking around mode at first and then later its that he's just that much stronger that only 16 has a chance without getting absorbed in the melee; that in the alternate timeline they fought together much more often against gohan and trunks though i understand that's somewhat headcanon fueled by the History of Trunks. Really their main issue is that they don't take shit seriously and are still treating it all like amusement until they are directly confronted with their own mortality.
>>537611491>I figured that for imperfect cell its the matter that they're still in fucking around mode at first and then later its that he's just that much stronger that only 16 has a chance without getting absorbed in the melee18 did think 17 and Piccolo weren't taking him seriously, but no matter how bad things got, she never tried to help. >though i understand that's somewhat headcanon fueled by the History of Trunks.In the Ova yes, they did fight together, but in Toriyama's version, 17 killed Gohan alone, so Toeir are the ones who really pushed 17 and 18 being team players. Might have been the case for Black and Zamasu as well.
Alright this is the final and biggest one. Wanted to make it an even 100 but there were a few I needed to include so it's 110. If anyone's got ideas for other kinds of games like this I wouldn't mind hearing them
>>537612230>Robelu, Putine, Towa and Arinsu that highDemon Realm propaganda btw
>>53761223021, Note, Videl, Towa, Forte, Viola, Nain, Titima
>>537612230this is legendary OC. i'm in awe. we gotta CC some of the Dragon Ball game directors on this one so we can get some more waifu representation. remind them they've got a roster for this.>Cheelai (5)>Caulifla (4)>Kale (4)>Gine (4)>Cocotte (3)>Kamin (3)>Sorrel (2)>Hop (2)>Amazon (1)>Penne (1)>Mamba (1)Kamin, in particular, is "gotta have her" tier because the Tuffle possession ability can be utilized with any of the other girls.what tier would Princess Trunks and Cell Games Gohan fall under? i don't wanna fuck Gohan, but i could direct the girls to /ss/ him while i get my dick sucked. maybe even have Kamin possess him.
>>53761223030 points is honestly a lot. If it were 20 I would pick:>Chronoa>Aeos>Zangya or Putine>Suno>Maron
>>537614068>Kamin, in particular, is "gotta have her" tier because the Tuffle possession ability can be utilized with any of the other girls.How is that a benefit? All it does is make the other girls uglier. Unless you mean possessing a girl you didn't pick?
>>537613202 Chronoa's a demon. Of both the semen and regular variety
>>537614438if one of the girls is shy or hesitant to be slutty, Kamin can possess them and keep them conscious while using their body in a super slutty manner. same thing with Gohan, if he's hesitant to fuck older women, Kamin can possess him and make him perform like a fucking stud.and i disagree with the idea that Tuffelized versions of the girls would be uglier than their regular forms. the white hair and crosshair eyes are pretty hot as indicators of possession.
>>537612230ill just use the advice that anon said of cashing a high DP fused character since it can devolve into the original 2 parts, but even if it was just 15 ultra hard points it would be just>Chronoa >Towa >21funny enough i think all three even if i were to choose one would keep you alive forever, also i choose Hasky since she looks like either temu launch of aliexpress Ayla
>>537615057That shouldn't make me hard
>>537615057>if one of the girls is shy or hesitant to be slutty, Kamin can possess them and keep them conscious while using their body in a super slutty manner.Okay, that's hot. I should've thought of that...>same thing with Gohan, if he's hesitant to fuck older women, Kamin can possess him and make him perform like a fucking stud.Should've had Chichi or some woman he knows to make it more taboo...>the white hair and crosshair eyes are pretty hot as indicators of possession.They look fine to indicate villains, but imo it's a downgrade for looks. Although thinking of it, Baby himself chose to have that appearance, he possessed Vegeta without it when he felt like it, so Kamin should be able to do that too...Kamin could even keep the appearance of the woman she's possessing normal, so she can force the woman to look at a mirror and see how slutty she looks when getting piped...
>>537614068>i could direct the girls to /ss/ him while i get my dick suckedCauliflafags...
>>537612230Thirty is a lot, so I doubled up on Mai.
Last thread someone talked about 21 taking the appearance of characters and how that could be used for what if, I just found a Baby Vegeta 21... It looks okay.
>>537585517Isn't Kakarot's next DLC early 2026? Shouldn't it be out before the next Battle Hour?
>>537616248GotenDAMN!
The last two technical characters for Gekishin's base roster got revealed: Android 17 (shielder, debuffer) and Hit (assassin)https://youtu.be/opDz1lKsQnU?si=OB2ExVnc_FuUqQyNhttps://youtu.be/jlqx0AiKXmE?si=b2RBs7RF72bAqI5uGamma 1 also gets shown in 17's video accidentally, presumably he's one of the last two DPS characters which means there is only one character left to reveal for Gekishin's base roster.
>>537617589>Gamma 1 also gets shown in 17's video accidentallyI wonder if there were plans to reveal Gamma 1 first... It would make more sense to reveal him alongside Hit for a hero/villain dual reveal.
>>537558578>Yeah I feel like the Android 21 cucking Dr Gero plot is never explored enoughBecause it was never a plot
I'd cuck 21 with Videl desu
>>537618526well considering you were stealing teenagers, i can see it dr.Gero
>>537612230If Bulma can get two versions, you could make Vomi and 21 two different choices
>>537618657 What would the benefit be of picking Vomi over 21?
>>537619071diet bulma
>>537554820>collective westgruz-200, go back
>>53759994699% of marvel girls are ugly
>>537619071You can choose Vomi and 21
>>537554820>The hegemony the collective west have enjoyed since the fall of the Soviet Union is quickly collapsing nowI wouldn't say quickly collapsing. As a true GohanSCHOLAR you should know, no super power in world history had ever held such singular hegemony over the entire world before.If anything we're moving back to regularity with multiple superpowers and spheres of influence. Competition is good for the world. In times of war technology has progressed much quicker.
>>537599946>nooooo add gurls to my fighting games i need to coooooooomFuck off, marvelkek
>>537619159Because Bulma us so fat?
>>537619071Vomi is much hotter and a mother.
>>537619670Well, she is now...
>>537619379>In times of war technology has progressed much quicker.Research slows to a crawl you just have faster implementation of current theory.
>>537620202Which causes more shit to get invented. Theories are nice and all but they're useless until actually put into real situations. No one cares about the theory of a vaccine. But the production of vaccines saved billions.
>>537622445>Which causes more shit to get inventedMost of which is useless garbage because military spending goes to the most ridiculous shit Nasa overcoming the challenges of research in orbit was more useful than the fucking bouncing bomb
>>537620102Bulma (forma bbl)
Breakers EoS by 2026 confirmed?
Why are you guys talking about texas what the fuck did I miss?
>>537541816Yeah that's why they banned guns ages ago, to stop the school shootingswait a minute...
>>537625382California happened
>>537626259What does California have to do with Texas?
>>537626497Remember when a lot of Californians moved to Texas to get away from its bullshit? Turns out the dumbasses didn't learn anything and proceeded to turn Texas into New California.
>>537626828did they raise taxes? what does it have to do with anything?
>>537627268They've passed some laws that will stop you from watching OG DB.
>>537599363>we HAVE to keepYou talk as if anyone started killing them to begin with. We do need to do it but we should start doing it in the first place.
>>537625382Texas passed a law that forbid a lot of stuff in anime, like stuff you'd see in OG, Z, Super and even Daima.
17 character showcase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0-2bFRbJdEHit character showcase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdKGz_iVf7c
>>537627513>>537627804So just some third world shit that won't affect DB in any way that matters? Good ridance
>>537627967Hit looks like he's gonna be useless to most players but absolutely invincible in the hands of very skilled players.
>>537628626>Third worldTexas is literally the gatekeeper of anime in America and thus by extension the West, all that in an era where Japan already said they change stuff based on the 'international audience'.Hell their awful 'localization' already did damage to anime in general and DB specifically.
>>537628858I don't think anyone imported DB out of US, the damage your dub did is contained to your third world country. You could complain more as e.g. a pokemonfag, since the pipeline goes to the Weat actually goes through 'murrica in that case.
>>537629421>I don't think anyone imported DB out of USMost european dubs were translated from the US dub, you retard, I'm not american.
>>537628762He looks like typical MOBA assassin stuff. Here's what to expect>good at picking off stragglers>bad at teamfights>godlike against shitters without awareness>shitters will pick him because he's edgy, try to play him like a traditional DPS, and do nothing
>>537629747>I-i-i'm not 13 anymore!Yeah, a 13 year old would make a better story.
>>537629747and it should be 100 year long shonen too, because Training is something that never gets old. You can simply invent new methods to keep viewers engaged, rather than avoid it altogether.
>>537629747>salagirslopOh, fuck off, I'm not reading any of it. We don't care about your fanfic, I'm sure you have a designated subreddit.
>>537630052Even when it's not a new method, it's still cool to see a character come with a new technic or improving.I wish the Whis training thing lasted longer and we saw more of it, it had interesting stuff.
>>537630093Go back to your discord, Salagir, your trash WILL be laughed at.
>>537629421>Me no speaky anglish saar, no import da dragon from da ball in US!Okay, Rajeesh *random retarded clicking sounds*, I'm gonna explain it to you in terms so simple, all your smartest people might be able to come together and understand them so they can explain it to you in your native retardese:Texas big money. Law says no anime take big money. Japan want big money. So they change how they make anime so texas let them get big money.Got it?
>>537628858>third world>texasYeah?
>>537630093I came with receiptsFeel free to ignore them
>>537630283>World power da true third world, saar!Why do brown always do this weird 'no u'?
>>537629747>I'm too good for my martial arts comic characters to do stuff like "trainining"!Someone call Toyotaro already
>>537630363>Nobody cared about XXILiterally everyone knew and cared he was the final big bag the moment Elder Kaioshin had a meltdown over him.And no, nobody was hyped for the 500th Goku vs Vegeta. It was a complete surprise it was actually good with how irrelevant and weak the main universe had been until then.
>>537629747You know what we need? A 'And this is to go even further beyond' edit.
>>537630372Because they have nothing else
>>537630363>Nobody was hyped for the FINAL of my 20 year old TOURNAMENT.Why does he think he's fooling?
>>537630372>when confronted with the statement of his distopian state being third world he can only claim others are the one from the third world>then complains about no u'sOh, the sweet, sweet irony
>>537630529I strongly believe he actually thinks like thatFrogs are just bugmen in disguise, barely sapient, barely able to relate to stories and the shared human experience
>>537629747>>537630415https://voca.ro/1mSoynUbhqjjThis right here perfectly shows the difference between someone who tries to understand something and someone who tries to insert what they think is better.
>>537630565>Saar SAAR ME USE LOT WORD SAY NO U!!!Of course Rajeesh doesn't know what irony is.
>>537630529>Who*My bad
>>537630372Is the rest of the world paying the tariffs yet?
>>537630213>you see im only shilling IRONICALLYPathetic salagirsimp
>>537630642>doubles down on his deflectionCute. Sorry your failed dictatorship state is losing DB, you could try moving to your president's boss country, I think russians can watch plenty of anime
Shounen was never about the fights anyways.
>>537630693Yes. Including your village, Rajeesh.
>>537630598>baguette hornsFUCKING KEK
>>537630812>Y-y-you saar hurt me das deflection!!!I'm sorry you are in denial about the impact of US laws on anime because you can't handle your shithole being a third world shithole and think anyone pointing out you're retarded and brown is american.
>>537630702>Laughing at me is shilling!Still fooling nobody, Salagir
It's funny watching him deflect to Indians when everyone knows his zionist president is importing Pajeets by the millions.
>Please stop making fun of me...
>>537630840To be fair when you have non professional western artists trying to ape Toriyama without much success the fights are going to suck ass so you might as well skip to the plot anyway
Remember how last thread was derailed and ruined?Good thing this will never happen again.
>>537630975>Saar me find funny me jew owner send me US!!! Take that saar!>Doesn't even dare reply like the cowardly indian he is
>>537631036Yes, yes, you're a pussy who can't just keep talking about what they want because a retard is getting bullied, it's not our problem.
>>537631008Salagir doesn't understand the opposite is true. If your plot is ass you need good fights.He should be aping AoT if he wants an example of how to have a plot carried story.
>>537630975Everyone else find it funny how hard you're getting dragged.
>>537630947>the deflecting bitch is pretending not to be a burger nowAwww look at him, he thinks we are stupid enough to think chocolate milk comes from brown cows, like 17M americans believe
>>537631008>Personally I'm a tasteless retard so I make everything my collaborators make 10 times worseWho let this guy in charge of a DB fanmanga, seriously?
Cynthia has the highest level pokemon in the franchise.Goku is a weakling who loses most fights he enters.Daima failed to meet expectations.Goku couldn't do anything against XXI and it was a great realistic final.The USA remains as the strongest country on Earth and in history despite the irrational America seethe.
>>537631204>Saar!!!!!! Da truth and making fun me is american!!!! SAAR!!!! Me whole village with me!!!!How does it feel to be all alone with nobody on your side because everyone here knows a US law is a big deal for anime?
>>537631284>The USA remains as the strongest country on Earth and in history despite the irrational America seethe.That one is just true instead of retarded bait tho.
>>537631204You mean like you're still pretending your entire meltdown wasn't kneecapped when someone pointed out most EU dubs of DB are translations of the US one?
>>537631324Considering you are replying with the same cope and same exact wording, multiples times, and not only to me but at least to one other guy, pretty good, it's nice to see you keep deflecting. You really think if you keep repeating yourself nobody will notice the samefagging and lack of arguments huh? Poor burgerboy.
>>537631517>Saar you do da laughing at me, take that saar!Cope
Companies hate having to make several different products for different wealthy countries. The EU ruled out the lightning ports so Apple is going to stop making them despite the USA still allowing lightning ports Texas ruling out lolishit will make japan change stuff based on the 'international audience' so they can do business in the west.It's as shrimple as that.
>>537631517Considering you're still dodging the obvious fact that was presented to you about dubbing, everyone would say you lost.
Which one is the redfag?
>>537631686Everyone on the thread already agreed with that multiple time because it's obvious but that one retard seems very upset that his 'The world's hegemon is not gonna influence anything, it's the true third world!' wasn't taken seriously so he stubbornly insist.
>>537631830Me.
>>537631830You.
>>537631830The friends we made along the way.
>>537631284>Daima failed to meet expectations.Everyone knows that. Even to an untrained eye, the delays in Daima related DLC in major games like Sparking Zero, or the dubbing delays in Legends/Xenoverse are living proof of that.
>>537632059>Everyone knows my random delusion
>>537632059>Saar me burger bait stop working, me need new attention!Be less obvious, rajeesh
>>537632059>Everyone knows my factual genius observation
>>537632151Can you keep your attention begging to /dbs/?
>>537631642>>537631727>doing it again>"no, I swear DB will fall apart because burgerland is banning it!"Not even trying anymore I see
>/DBS/ out of nowhere
>>537632205They can't, /a/ jannies stopped sheltering them as their pet retards which mean they keep getting purged so they keep coming here to start shit.
>The asian exporters will just pay the Drumpf tax, they totally just won't stop doing business with USAI've heard this cope before
>>537632273>Saar you no try when you make da fun of me!Reality is doing the job by itself.
>>537632273Keep dodging, you're clearly getting desperate. Come on, address the dub thing if it doesn't matter so much.
>>537632362>Saar me still mad india pay da tarrif!That's what happens when you live in the third world, rajeesh.
>>537632302>Instantly confirm he's indeed from /dbs/
>>537632435>modern 4chanit was always like this, it's not like autists showed up only in the last few years
>>537632362I don't think I've ever seen american posters on 4chan act this unhinged before. They really are going through some sever cognitive dissonance.
>>537632598Fuck off back to your containment thread.
>>>537632598>Fuck off back to your containment thread.
>>537632634>SAAAR STOP DA LAUGHING!!! FUN OF ME IS UNHINGED!!!!How does it feel to be the thread's punching bag?
>>537632573Nah, we used to have tripfags as our local punching bags, when they went away schizos and counter schizos went out of control
>>537632717I don't care about your tears, you're getting deported back to /dbs/ regardless.
>The Redschizo is from or is larping as my countryGrim...
>>537632746You sound like a schizo.
>>537632746you're right actually, totally forgot tripfags and namefags used to be much more of a thing. But what changed is just the rules of the game, they stopped doing that simply cause you can easily filter them that way, but they're not gone
>>537632732It feels like being Uub.>>537632808>We have actual indians in the thread
>>>537632717>I don't care about your tears, you're getting deported back to /dbs/ regardless.
>>537632863>>We have actual indians in the threadIs that what they call Americans nowadays?
>Complete and utter silenceWatch it all start up again all at once.
>>537633051Yes actually
>>537632969>>537633051>>537633246>>537633406>Begging this hardHere's a pity (you) since you're mad you got dropped like a used fleshlight.
>homosexual fantasies Average gokuhomo and redhomo.
>>537576145I love them
>>537633985>I hate the good characters everyone loves!Awesome personality you got there, how about you take it back to /dbs/? In case the thread dying whenever you open your mouth didn't make it clear you weren't welcome.
>>537634942He's an indian thirdworlder, he doesn't care about being welcome, he just wants to shit in public.
>>537631007>>537631008We need to kill that guy
>>537634942>He only likes self insert main characters You are a manbaby
>>537575635You are fucking insane dudeThe dialogue cobbled together out of preset text is hilarious
>>537635504>He doesn't like OUR HEROYou're a faggot.
>>537635504>Goku>A self insertKill yourslef.
>>537635831Yes Goku is one of the most common male self inserts in all of fiction. It is especially prevalent amongst latin americans.It is extremely clear to everyone here you only like self insert MCs. You are a manchild faggot.
>>537636195>Get called a faggot>Immediately try to use it backHit a nerve, uh?
>yourslefKek, forgot to mention. He gets angry at anyone attacking his self inserts. He sees it as an attack upon himself. Pretty common amongst these folx.
>>537636410You keep trying to 'talk to the crowd' whenever you get owned and it never works. Kill yourself.
>>537636323You know you nailed him because he dodged reacting to it.
>>537636195>Yes Goku is one of the most common male self inserts in all of fictionlolno he's not
>>537630363He HAS to be trolling
>Kill yourselfSuicide is a lot more common in mentally ill folks. Mentally ill includes the type of person to spend 8 hours straight arguing over pokemon on the internet.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/523998925/#524149203>Sun 18 May 2025 03:50:34 No.524149203https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/523998925/#q524181342>Sun 18 May 2025 11:54:39 No.524181342Genuinely fucking mentally ill. Many samefags all over that ""debate"" (two feral animals screeching)https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/537038131/#q537517653Another link proving he knows how to hide (You)s even on mobile.
Ok but Salagir is worse
>>537637282>He's linking everyone who ever bullied himI'm so proud of /dbg/ for forever branding the mind of a retard like that.Said retard should kill himself BTW.
>>537637142Yeah he is. All Goku haremshit is extremely OOC self insertion.
>>537637518No, he's notGoku is a role model that people attempt to emulate and if you can't understand that and continue to shit out the most disingenuous posts possible then there's no point in even pretending you have something to say
>>537637282>(two feral animals screeching)All I'm seeing is a Redchad dominating you while your own general refuse to take you back.>Another link proving he knows how to hide (You)s even on mobile.Everyone knows how to do that, it's literally a basic function of a browser even on mobile. Sorry you thought this was a tech illiterate zoomer general where you could fool people, samefag.
>>537637518>All Goku haremgem is extremely based and fitting for our hero*Fixed it for you.
>>537637282>That argumentHoly mental illness.
>>537637586>>537637751He's just a /dbs/spic searching for an excuse to post Goku x Vados stuff, ignore him.>>537637282>>537637783>Suicide is a lot more common in mentally ill folksWhich is very fitting for you then.
>>537637518Cringe>>537637751Based
Videl is for Goku.
I see bejitabros are shitting all over the place as usual
>>537638051They make the thread worse like Vegeta makes Dragon Ball worse.
>>537629945I've never played a MOBA before so I was just giving my first impression from the showcase.Interesting if that's really how it goes.Also Hit is a TECH character, not a DPS one. Shitters who pick DPS by default won't be able to play him.
>>537637586Goku being with any woman except his wife is pure fancope. Goku is naive, oblivious to romance, unconcerned with societal norms, and focused entirely on training and fighting. Goku would literally never be with anyone except someone he's contractually bound to.>The kiss scene in Super>Him leaving his family for months at a timeOf course people will self insert into whoever the strongest or most important guy is. It's a power fantasy thing. That's why you see all of those crossover fics where he pounds the entire DxD cast or those betrayed fics where he leaves his "naggy wife".
>>537638587>Goku is naive, oblivious to romance, unconcerned with societal norms, and focused entirely on training and fighting.Which means he's perfect to be tricked into 'training' with all the women.
>>537638247>Also Hit is a TECH characterYeah but now it means that shitters who get filled into tech will pick him instead of an actual zoner or support and they'll play him like a DPS>537638587(You)
>>537638587>t. Gohan self inserter
>>537638727>but now it means that shitters who get filled into techIn Gekishin, you don't get auto-filled, you pick if you want to play Tank, DPS or Tech before queuing and then when you find a match, you pick a character in the category you queued in.So maybe that will avoid that issue?
>>537638745>Moves me from being a Vegetafag to a GohanfagWhich is it? Make up your mind. Gohan is also a huge self insert that fulfills a difference niche. It's irrelevant for now since the topic is Goku and someone's total denial anyone could self insert as him.>GokuGoku is the "traditional" self-insert. It's from the old school of thought where power fantasy was synonymous with being a barbarian; Conan, rambo, etc.>GohanGohan is closer to the idea that a self-insert is average. It's a character common in 90's anime where a self-insert strives for a normal life and is thrust into a fantastical situation. The self-insert is the lowest common denominator of an average person and doesn't necessarily want to be in a non-average situation. Battle harem, slow life isekai.>>537638637This teeters but is more realistic than Goku divorcing his wife. Really in character he wouldn't enter any such situation. Even if he did, he'd probably laugh at the girl then walk away without banging her. He doesn't portray much sex drive.
>>537638247Yeah so what usually happens with these characters is that they want to single out an opponent and then fuck him up before he can fight back properly or escape, using a combination of quick burst damage and mobility. They are usually bad at group fights because the chaos doesn't allow them to maneuver around easily and since whoever he picks can be assisted by allies there's a chance they blow all their cooldowns without managing to kill anyone and then they can't contribute anything for a while.These are generalizations, it won't always turn out this way, but it's what you can expect.>Also Hit is a TECH character, not a DPS one. Shitters who pick DPS by default won't be able to play him.Doesn't matter, there will be people who pick technical just to play the cool stealthy assassin, trust me. Then play him with 0 patience and without waiting for good chances and contribute nothing.
>>537639161I forgot to mention because as an ASSFAGGOTS player this is obvious to me but just in case, this type of character wants to go after squishy targets they can easily kill with one rotations of skills, they are really fucking bad against tanks because after their rotation is done their damage plummets, and since they aren't tough themselves the tanks can just kick their teeth in.
>>537639154>This level of copeYou're never gonna dupe anyone into believing Goku is the self insert character instead of Gohan, it's not gonna happen.
>>537639154>Make up your mindWe made up your mind that you're a retard who should go back.>>537639161>>537639721Interesting, it's pretty cool to get the perspective of someone who actually know those games
>doesn't even try to refute anything I sayWhatever. Have fun being a retard.
>>537640221>WhateverCry harder, faggot
>>537637162he isn't
>>537639951>Interesting, it's pretty cool to get the perspective of someone who actually know those gamesThanks, I've seen some people surprised that they didn't make Hit a DPS character but it makes sense to me, because his character archetype isn't really a substitute for a proper DPS on your team.You could say he isn't a proper substitute for a support either but really, technicals in this game aren't strictly "supports" per se (just look at Krillin and Frieza, they don't offer much traditional support either) I see them more as fast, mobile opportunists who go wherever they are needed (they are the fastest characters for a reason)
Kid Buu, Kale, Android 13, Broly or SS2 Gohan will be the final DPS in Genkishi.
>>537640485Yeah, Tech made the most sense for Hit IMO, I guess people are just used to MMOs and RPGs having assassins as a flavor of DPS?
>>537635534>that picLMAO that's perfect. Glad you liked it!Rant, but Sparking Zero has a massive amount of preset phrases, but sifting through them all for what you need is a nightmare, and the categories they give you to filter them by don't really help or can even leave out options that might've fit better. Even when you find one that's fitting, the ones that allow you to replace certain options are inconsistent with what they allow you to replace those options with. The scenario creator definitely oozes with a shocking amount of potential freedom, yet so much of your time is spent parsing through hostile menus over and over again as well as trying your best to counteract arbitrary limitations that you feel constricted anyway; case in point, you can't make scenes involving a free slot/dynamic character. There is certainly an art to working under those limitations, but it all just makes me wish they bothered letting you type and making a white/blacklist or some shit.
>>537640367There are no tears, just disappointment I don't get to have a good debate. I should have expected less out of you.
>>537640696>BeejitaTruly a staple of the bug arc.
>>537630598i'm fucking dying
>>537630598The fact that Salagir is making me like Toyotaro more by comparison is hilarious
>>537630598This GOLD needs to be animated.
>>537640558my bet's on adult gohan (to go along with gamma 1)
>>537646237I'm thinking it's a villain character to even out the cast a bit since it's more hero heavy.
Is the madness over?
>no what-if scenario where frieza makes yamcha join the FF
Hopefully this isn't too off topic to ask, but since dragonball's what ifs have been fairly lacking, what series has the best ones, as a template for what you think db games should be doing? I've heard the older super robot wars games have some good ones but I haven't played them
>>537649919ulltimate butouden overall has the best i thinkgohan black was cool but sparking zero dropped the ball on fun what-ifsbudokai or budokai tenkaichi 2 i forget which had a what-if where cell absorbs krillin and gets a new orange midget form
>>53761700621 with extra body-hopping gimmick sounds like someone's fetish
>Check thread after waking up>/dbs/ schizosI hope this isn't a daily ocurrence...>>537629747Thank you for the screenshot anon! I should have figured he said it in French.
>>537649919>what if x character never turned good>what if x character died>what if x character had to fight alone>what if x character fused with y character instead>what if goku did go with bulma instead and had a family>what if goku trained with crane school instead>what if frieza was won over and became one of the group>what if captain ginyu stole frieza's body>what if a gomah made a wish that every battle goku and his friends have they gain substantial weightI want drastic differences, stuff I can only get from playing this game. Ginyu would never steal Frieza's body which is why I want to experience it in this what-if scenario.
>>537651250well, yes. But i'm more asking if there are some other, non dragonball series that have good long term what ifs to act as a framework
>Interviewer: Fans have been wondering where Dragon Ball takes place, exactly. Even though the story uses Journey to the West as a foundation, there are a number of unique elements which don't seem to belong to any culture. Where exactly is Goku from?>Toriyama: Well... He's from Planet Sadala *laughs*.>I: Planet Vegeta, you mean?>T: Yes. When I originally conceptualized Dragon Ball, I took Journey to the West as a basis but did not have China or anywhere else in mind. Goku and Bulma's adventures were in the world somewhere.>I: So they could be from anywhere?>T: This is not what I had in mind. When you see Bulma's house, it has a distinct style. Most cities I have drawn throughout the series look similar. They all take stylistic elements from the American sci-fi of the time.>I: Eh?! This discovery! Is Goku American?>T: I don't think so, though his home is certainly near Bulma's house.
>>537612230Half of them look like fanfiction OCs>Pandel>BrapanThe fuck is this?
>>537612230Chico cookie lime ena chuu lee pansy misa chao mint pocawatha tanmen shun shun
>>537655476>PandelPan x Videl DB Fusions EX fusionBrapanBra x PanThe game is good.
>>537632598>>537632717kek
>>537612230>CocoHer name is Princess G.B. and she is Bejita's avatar on NEO VEGETA.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2DDKgvQJUw
>>537640558Jiren
>>537657083I don't think he'll be base roster
>>537657229The thing is, he has hype factor. The last character revealed, you want him to give you some OOMPH, and Jiren would be fitting for the role. Though either Broly could work as well.
>>537630229>triggered fatty
>>537630363>Before XXI vs Gast, nobody cared about XXILMAOOOOOThe opinion on XXI before that fight was either supportive (because le realism), neutral, or outright contempt. It only went up when he fought Gast because that was an actual match (And in hindsight, a chance to have only Gast be wanked when fighting XXI), by then fans were hyped for the finals because it'd mean Goku could get the respect he didn't have for the rest of the story.Who wouldn't be hyped for a tournament's finals too? Is he insane?>>537630449>This is 20 years beyond shonen. Training arcs are no longer necessary>This is 40 years beyond shonen. Science and magic trump paltry training.>And this is to go even futher beyond!
>>537627706>You talk as if anyone started killing them to begin with.Somebody killed the United Health CEO, somebody killed the Blackstone CEO, two different white men tried to kill Trump, two Democratic representatives had their home broken into and were shot dead 3 months ago. And those are just the ones I've heard about. We are finally starting to kill them.
>>537658046Beautiful display of creativity from the community, and a true classic
>>537657773Since we've gotten a lot of movie villains, maybe Broly then. They're still pushing Daima all over their games so I also think we're going to be getting more Daima characters in the coming months like at the battle hour 2026 I wouldn't be at all surprised if we get daima characters specifically daima ss4 instead of gt
>>537657083We love Jiren here.
>>537657083>SHITren
>Jiren>hypelol
>>537651048I became a lot of someones fetish after Cooler.
>>537658965*It becamegod DAMN IT
For me, it's Goten
>>537658046I've never played XenoVerse is this accurate? I heard this is the only good hairstyle.
>>537660446There's a few good ones, but the Gohan hair is probably the best pick to cope with lack of hair changing shape on transformationsThe names are probably more to do with people self inserting as Gohan specifically, because they were kids starting as Z
>>537617006It's just 21 in Baby Vegeta's clothes.
>>537661472I heard they can't delay it without steam giving them a fine so it'll be a risky move.
>>537662505Don't reply to that thing lest it starts thinking it is welcome here.
>>537661472You're welcome.
>>537661472I don't think it'll be delayed, they usually announce it earlier
>>537658046honestly blame this on how dogshit the character creator is for xv1 and xv2. the fact that your hair doesn't change when you transform is also fucking retarded.
>>537649919Never played BT1 and 3 so I'd have to say 2. They had actual fully voiced what-if storylines with a beginning, middle and end. Modern studios have lost their creativity so we're never getting any of that again. The worst will always be Xenoshart.
Bump
>>537640485>You could say he isn't a proper substitute for a support either but really, technicals in this game aren't strictly "supports" per se (just look at Krillin and Frieza, they don't offer much traditional support either)Yes, it's a bit strange people insisted on squaring technical characters into the support circle when Krillin has been there since the first beta as one of the strongest characters and has no real support capabilities: no heals, no shields, no buffsIn any other MOBA he would be classified as a mage or somethingIt's fucking dragon ball, if you restricted an entire role to support only you'd barely have characters to fill it
>>537526092Note is pure!
>>537630913Thank you! I made another edit.I really should pick up paint.net or anything else, those edits are painful sometimes.
>>537693192Ha, you actually did! Nice.
>>537686515>It's fucking dragon ball, if you restricted an entire role to support only you'd barely have characters to fill itNeva WHEN
>>537693192Nice. Fix the typo in Goku's last bubble and I shall reuse this funnie
>>537693192im not going to read multiverse no matter how much you shill, fuck off
>>537693192The Sandro crossover is perfect.
>>537693192Paint.NET's simple but powerful, especially with plugins. Oh, and if you ever wanted to ape Viz's font, they use WhizBang.
>>537693192Paint.net isn't complicated, pick it up anon.
>>537696841Which plugins?
>>537697252A bunch. Whatever you need, really. When I ran into something the base program couldn't do, I checked the forums to see if someone had made a plugin for it. I have a little over a hundred of them now.
>>537693192>He's been doing this from MS paintLiterally how?
Ok here me out dragon ball bros/sisIn xenoverse 2 we give humans the max power awoken but instead of Roshi's max power, we give Jiren's version of max power. Since the aura is in the game and that the only changes that Jiren goes through with the form is that he looses his shirt and gets a red tint over his skin. we can use the dokkan battle name for the form and call it Absolute Power.
>>537694427>>537696786Thanks!>>537696247What typo? "Exemple of illiterary"? That was intentional. Salagir's ESL is notorious, so his dialogue has to written that way too. Exemple of Illiterary is also a reference to an anon who got mocked for it months ago, who may or may not have been Salagir.>>537696786Sandro as the final punchline is why I made this one!>>537696841>Paint.NET's simple but powerful, especially with plugins.Yeah I'll have to switch to something else if I keep making those edits...>Oh, and if you ever wanted to ape Viz's font, they use WhizBang.Thank you!
>>537701207I didn't catch the intentional ESL. Top notch
>>537699205I've used MS Paint for years, I'm used to its limitations, even if they are frustrating...
>>537701207>Exemple of Illiterary is also a reference to an anon who got mocked for it months ago,All I see is a chad curbstomping some retard insisting on nonsense about Goku getting much stronger outside of new forms.
>>537701714i'm pretty sure "goku needs new forms to get stronger" is another Multiverse-ismnot a good look
>>537701714Holy shit you are embarrassing.
>>537701862Yeah, that's the point. The anon in the screenshot was arguing AGAINST that.
>>537701952>You are embarrassing because you're siding against Salagir when it's mentioned someone arguing AGAINST a retarded idea from DBM was 'salagir'Being a /dbs/ reject who already got smacked down 3 times down seems like the real reason you're embarrassed.
>>537701207>who may or may not have been Salagir.Yeah, I'm sure Salagir, a french feminist, came onto 4chan to argue against an anon defending one of his own shit takes with his life.
>>537700956Would Dimps be willing to make female human have huge muscles though?
>>537702193I have zero cares about the context of the argument. What's fucking embarrassing is your need to go in front of the whole class and be like "Look guys isn't that guy cool? He totally isn't me". Talking about yourself in third person is such an insecure things to do.
>>537702459>I don't careYour instant screeching say otherwise.
>>537702459>such an insecure thingssuch an insecure thing*
>>537702459>>537702676Point and laugh at this man.
>>537702459>Being this upset that someone agreed with someone elseSounds like jealousy.
>>537702676i wish DBS was slice of life comedy
>>537702996You people can't make up your mind on if DBS was boring slice of life with no stakes, no tension and characters not being serious enough or if it should had more slice of life and comedy.
>>537702996The inbetween arc episodes are the most rewatchable parts of DBS.
>>537703192I meant solid slice of life comedy. Kinda hard to pull. DBS did an okay job at that sometimes I don't hate it
>>537704013ROMANTICku is still peak
>>537702431Thats the best part Dimps don't need to since Jiren and full power Jiren in xenoverse 2 have the same body with different clothes and effects. With female humans the devs can pull a dragon ball the breakers and only add the effects of full power jiren, like they did with Legendary super saiyan broly transphere when used on a female.
>>537704081true
>>537705635>Thats the best part Dimps don't need to since Jiren and full power Jiren in xenoverse 2 have the same body with different clothes and effects. I could swear Jiren bulked up... >With female humans the devs can pull a dragon ball the breakers and only add the effects of full power jiren, like they did with Legendary super saiyan broly transphere when used on a female.I guess that could work. Humans in general really struggle to not be redundant when saiyans are around... Them having Kinto'un is a start (It is mentioned there were more people with pure hearts years ago, so it's not far fetched), but that's just another way of flying.
Do you guys think we're getting a new game or a movie reveal during battle hour?
>>537708031Battle Hour is ALWAYS a nothingburger.
>>537708168The one two years ago revealed Sparking Zero.
>>537708308The exception that confirms the rule.
Is there anything Dragon Ball related you guys are looking forward to this year and next year?
>>537708308How many Battle Hours had reveals?
>>537709589Gekishin is gonna be a fun time waster for a bit.
>>537709589Kakarot's Daima DLC. I was kinda worried that them working on Kimetsu 2 would mean they'd suck, but the first one seems pretty decent. That's pretty much it. I'm kind of holding on to the cope that Akio's "maybe" when he was asked if there was going to be an announcement this year is going to bear fruit, but DB isn't being featured in Jump Festa and he's been in hiding since Daima ended, so maybe not.
>>537709796How do Japanese fans feel about this whole issue? The west can't be the only part of the fanbase that thinks Shueisha is squandering if not outright sabotaging the franchise.
>>537709930The Japanese side seems to think it's normal we're in the dark because that stuff is supposed to be handled in private.
>>537710132I do wonder if Japanese fans commented on OP favoritism, maybe even understand why it happens...
>>537709589nothing official. i'm only really excited about the next XV2 Revamp update, seeing more DBL skills ported to XV2 and Sparking Zero, and to see if SZ modding improves in-general. i couldn't care less about Daima, or the Future Saga, or the Pokémon Unite clone. Bandai Namco and Toriyama's last two works have this franchise tied up in a goddamn noose.
>>537716476>More successful than ever>Tied up in a nooseAbsolute mental illness.
>>537718371Don't mind the doomposter.
>>537719019It's hard to take doomposting seriously when we're drowning in DB stuff compared to post-Super Hero.
>>537718371>>537719019>>537719242this kind of toxic positivity is why the franchise is in the state it's in, and why the Japanese could give a damn what's going on with the rights issue. you people will cheer for anything. no quality control whatsoever.
>>537719242Even the general is more active than it has been for most of it's existence after CaC autism died off.
>>537719560Technically, that's because /dbs has a new Janny hitler so there's a bunch of refugees.
>>537719546>Reminding me that the literal top 1 anime franchise is at no risk of anything and doing extremely well is 'toxic positivity'Or your doomposting is boring and retarded. DB is successful and makes money, we're getting new games and ongoing games are getting DLCs and updates, we got an anime less than a year ago.The franchise is doing great, it's doing better than at any point since the Super anime ended.Come back when it's been a few years where we've gotten nothing except DLCs like after Super Hero and then maybe you won't be laughed at.
>>537716476I'm just going to wait for Xenoverse 3. Maybe Revamp and all the other similar mods will finally show Dimps that their real time combat just makes most of the attacks look shitty.
>>537719842I hope they fuck off soon or get janny'd here too.>>537719865Don't bother with the doomposter, only way he'd shut up is if we got a new game every month because he's either a zoomer with his attention span fried by social media OR is underage and thinks a year is an eternity.
>>537720094>Maybe Revamp and all the other similar modsDimps doesn't give a single shit about any mod.If you wanna know what they care about, look at the TP medals sales.
>>537720250XV3 is just gonna be a DB reskin of Shinobi Striker.
>>537718371>anime and manga are dead>console games are on life support, Sparking, Xenoverse, and Kakarot all had their DLC delayed, Breakers is dead, and they can't even make a real MOBA>Bandai wrecked their working relationship with ArcSys, FighterZ is in shambles and Marvel & Sony have ArcSys making a fighting game for them now instead>no ETA on the return of the anime or manga>Daima flopped>Daima toys are flopping>Dokkan won't even touch Daima with a 50ft pole>Legends did the 3 mandatory units then went back to Super and GT>last movie was CGI slop because Shueisha would rather have their 2D animators on One Piece>Heroes is dead and Super Divers is flopping>only thing keeping revenue up anymore is the mobile gacha games>Gundam and One Piece are generating more revenue than DB
>>537720094Dimps had 10 years to look at VGM and see that fans were making the roster outfits recolorable. You know what they did in response to that? They put recolorable versions of the roster outfits behind a real money cash shop. That's the company you're expecting to learn a consumer-friendly lesson.
>>537720114>OR is underage and thinks a year is an eternity.God, I remember thinking a year was a long time. Nowadays it feels like time passes by so fast. Super ended 7 years ago, and it's already been 6 months since Daima ended, but I don't feel like either (Specially Super) were that long ago...
>>537720495>AnimeSo dead we got one less than a year ago>Those ongoing successful games are on 'life support'Retarded doomposting, even a shovelware like Breakers has been going on for years and is STILL going on with new seasons announced.>Random gossip about FighterZ, which is getting a new updateYou're retarded>I have a tweet that says random shit about the latest anime that made more money than ever for the franchiseSo DB is doing great?>This thing that is doing well flopped! Please ignore I've been screaming about it going EOS any day for years nowYou're reaching so hard.>Only thing making money are the gacha games, please ignore the revenue from XV2, Kakarot, Daima, Sparking 0 as well as anything Toei relatedThat's just sad at this point.>Those two franchise DB beat at the last fiscal year's final results are totally making more, despite the fiscal year forecast saying DB will make moreSo all your bullshit is retarded and you're indeed mentally ill.
>>537720094>>537720654Oh, and here's the amount of effort they're putting into the current wave of DLC characters.>>537720114I'm 30, man. Trying to "little bro" your way outta this is crazy. lol
>>537720495>His source is a twitter troonWhy is the lone doomerposter like this? And keep trying to force his shitty gimmick?>>537720745DB DLCs are coming out so fast from my POV that I can't even finish my backlog before a new one comes out.
>>537721051Vegeta really steals moves? No dignity!
>>537721051Holy shit. It was only two characters. Are new animations that hard to come up with?
>>537721051>Trying to "little bro" your way outta this is crazy.Sorry this is a white general, nobody knows your third world terms, underage retard.
>>537721051>Laughing at me is crazy *nervous laugh*It's pretty normal actually. That's how everyone reacts when they see a clown in public.>>537721184Everyone keep stealing his 'technique' so it's only fair.
Jump Festa 2026 lineup.
Xenoverse 2 still making bank and being essentially guaranteed to get a 10 year anniversary and probably keep going should tell you everything you need to know about how stupid doomposting is.You can't even argue XV2 was a recent high quality gem we won't get in the future anymore, it's an almost 10 year old piece of crap from the shovelware era of anime games and it's STILL successful because it's a DB game.
>>537721513>Chained soldierI hate localizers.I hope a lot of those get games, I'd love a good Blue Exorcist game, same for Dark Gathering (EASY pokemon-like), Slave Soldier, Undead Unluck and Jigoraku.
>>537721456>Everyone keep stealing his 'technique' so it's only fair.Piccolo really should have copyrighted it when he had the chance...
>>537721513>>537721856How the fuck would you even make a 'Tis Time for Torture' game? Best I can think of is some kind of cooking or party game.
>>537721695not the doomposter but isn't that a bad thing? It should have been put to rest ages ago. It being alive wouldn't be as bad if we got great and innovative things from it, given its story, but they never do anything interesting with the DLC. Belmod was the coolest thing we got in years and they didn't even add his manga attacks.
>>537721951It's even funnier because isn't it Piccolo who dubbed that 'Vegeta's technique'?>>537722070Why would it be bad? If the customer didn't want it, they'd have stopped buying and making money is the entire point of a franchise.>his manga attacksGood, fuck that retarded Hisoka rip off gimmick.
>>537722070Samefagging hereI just realized, with Heroes gone, and Legends also refusing to be interesting and *also* opting for turning everyone purple in place of a decent story with decent antagonists, Xenoverse has no reason not to step up.It has a huge opportunity with this new thing, what with Fu turning evil and all, but it definitely seems like that big evil is just going to be himself and the only thing that'll come from this is a slight shake up in the status quo.
>>537722212>Good, fuck that retarded Hisoka rip off gimmick.Given that Toyotaro is a capeshit fag, it was probably a Gambit rip off instead.
>>537722212>Good, fuck that retarded Hisoka rip off gimmick.Better than generic energy balls and full power energy wave #13559
>>537722379>Better than actual SOULNo. You WILL respect the Full Power Energy Wave.
One Piece is canceled and all of it's ressources and focus is put toward DB BUT Oda is in charge of the franchise now. Do you take the deal?
>>537722212It was Goku. I think the only times Piccolo saw Vegeta spamming ki blasts were both times it was used on Cell, but Piccolo didn't comment on them.Ironically, Buu copied "Vegeta's technique", but Vegeta never used it at any point during their fight (Or used it at all before fighting Kid Buu IIRC). I'm not sure if Vegeta used it on the anime either.
>>537722640No.
>>537722640Only downsides will be the shitty pacing and the fact that all the women will look the same.
>>537723254>and the fact that all the women will look the same.They kinda already do.
>>537723094It's kinda funny how rare proper 'named techniques' are in DB but also how often they'll just arbitrarily decide some random generic move is 'X's move'.
>>537721009>no counterarguments, just ad hominem and hopiumyou're going out sad, just like Dragon Ball...
>>537721184>>537721189Apparently so. Even one of Daima Goku's new skills is just a flipped Broly or Jiren animation with some fire VFX glued onto it.>>537721695Cite source for Xenoverse's "continued success"?
>>537721513>no Dragon Ballbros... our success... i thought we were bigger than ever...?
>>537724480>>537724786>I-i-i was only pretending!That's a good retard, backpedaling in shame.
>>537724660>Cite source for Xenoverse's "continued success"?The fact it's still getting DLCs that sale well and constant TP medal sales.Now cite source for the biggest anime franchise in any way being in trouble or failing to make money.
>>537721189>>537724660Wow, Xenoverse characters? All being the same? That's totally new information and not something people have complained about since release.>Cite source for Xenoverse's "continued success"?If it wasn't successful, you wouldn't still be talking about such an old game and doing animation comparison for it's new characters.
>>537724480Mental illness.
>>537724908Nobody said they were pretending.
>>537725052cite source for the new DLCs selling well?
>>537725696The source is the fact they're making more. DLCs are made depending on how previous DLCs have sold.The fact they are making multi-part DLCs now would indicate that they sell even better than before, enough to be worth pre-planning entire seasons of DLCs.
>>537722259>I just realized, with Heroes gone, and Legends also refusing to be interesting and *also* opting for turning everyone purple in place of a decent story with decent antagonists, Xenoverse has no reason not to step up.With Xenoverse and Legends doing fuck all, it really puts it in perspective that Hearts was a miracle. He was made to be a reverse Zamasu, and a villain who hates Zenoh makes a lot of sense, and him being practically a mind reader is an interesting power for DB. Plus the developers bothered to come up with Lagss too. The manga helped to develop him better too, as his beliefs are more sincere (Pic related doesn't happen in either the game or promotional anime).Even before him, Demon Realm villains were a decent idea. Although Mechikabura himself was kinda boring, and he became even more boring once he rejuvenated. I'm not fond of Fu in general, but the universe seed is interesting.Aeos... Was more of an excuse to have a ToP ripoff with Z villains around, although her being more strict about her job and wanting timelines to be gone makes sense, but I feel they didn't do much with her since Demon Realm took over as the main threat.Ozotto was trash.>>537723895>It's kinda funny how rare proper 'named techniques' are in DBI remember how mindblowing it was for me to realize that. Video games like to make generic moves into named techniques, and I was so used to Burning Attack and Buster Cannon being Trunks' techniques, but when re-reading the manga, I noticed he didn't use named techniques even once (And Burning Attack is just a ki blast with complicated hand motions)...
>>537725962>I remember how mindblowing it was for me to realize that. Video games like to make generic moves into named techniquesAnd even 'proper techniques' that standout are rarely named outside of video games, who basically make up said names to begin with.
>>537725891i don't know. Xenoverse 2 DLCs don't seem to have much overheard. all they really do is repaint models and reuse animations. it probably only costs them $4 to make what they sell for $25. doesn't seem like they would need to sell like hot cakes to greenlight another character pack.that's how you know Breakers must have dropped to fucking double digit profitability for them to give up on it altogether.
>>537726541If they don't make bank out of something with the DB name on it, they just drop it, that's how Bandai always went.> to give up on it altogether.They already announced they're making another season after realizing the current one so unless the plans change, I'm not sure what you're on about.
>>537726541They're not keeping a game running for 10 years without making much off of it, anon.
>Piccolo in the next arc, because all new forms must look goofy now
>>537726074Yeah. Light Grenade, 17's shield, Candy Beam (Although Buus do tend to say "Turn into X" before using it), Nappa's Break Cannon and Giant Storm are a few cases I can remember.Raditz might have the silliest technique names in games. Double Sunday and Saturday Crush barely sound like attack names (Specially the first one, and it's easy to mishear it as Double Sundae). And then Heroes gave him "Weekend"...
>>537726860Heroes of the Storm, Paladins, and the Halo franchise post-Reach beg to differ.
>>537727007Ironically, the janken is an actually named technique despite being the one you'd think would just be an unnamed generic combo.
>>537727152Those aren't made by Bandai.
>>5370884371st one done.https://files.catbox.moe/e77qan.jpgI'm so sorry these are rushed despite the long wait. Having to sneak-sketch around isn't fun
>>537727320>goalpost status: moved
>>537727198Same for when Goku moves his arms really fast so he effectively has 8 arms. It has an actual name in the manga.
>>537727395That's not moving the goalpost, it's literally the entire point. Bandai isn't keeping a game running for 10 years while making little off of it. They'd rather just throw the dices again with a new DB game.>>537727382Based, great job, anon.
>>537727382Nice
>>537651048You confuse power absorption with body switching.
...I'm ready to walk back my complaints about the Fusion Bug... Thank fucking God Goku is the only character who will ever be burdened with this clown shit look...
>>537727198Thinking of it, how many named melee attacks there were in the manga? There's Janken, Heavenly Cross and Volleyball play, but I can't think of any other. Even the so popular Meteor Combination went unnamed.I do love that Goku made Janken being a named technique into an advantage...
>>537727382Would goku have more fun with a tomboy wife like videl, like Videl feels like deluxe early chi-chi, if she somehow existed during the same era, and wanted to train under goku i think it would be an interesting dynamic but knowing toriyama she would end up in the kitchen yes or yes but is fun to think about, like ryu and sakura type characters
>>537728729There's Yamcha's Roga Fufuken.>I do love that Goku made Janken being a named technique into an advantage...Same, that's the kind of simple cleverness that make me want an upgraded comeback for it, especially since Goku really need more moves
How about a tournament arc with a 'sponsor' gimmick?
>>537727382>FilenameI'm now surprised that most demons in DB don't have a transformation that makes them uglier, while unleashing their true power... I think Demigra is the only case? Both in Xenoverse and Heroes he got different forms that make him uglier, and even then, in both cases it wasn't even his power, but stealing someone else's.>>537728947>Would goku have more fun with a tomboy wife like videlShe would pester him less, but it's not like Goku has a problem with Chichi. He lets her do whatever she wants if he doesn't have a strong opinion in something, but if he does, he sets his foot down. IIRC pic related is the only time she pissed him off.So I guess he would have more fun with Videl? But I don't think the relationship would be that much of an improvement for him. Him getting with Videl would also likely mean he has to live in the city, and I don't think Goku would want that, country bumpkin life suits him the best.If anything, Videl would more likely to benefit from having him as a husband, but as a martial artist. Living with Goku would mean she'd take her interest in ki further.And then there's Goku barely having a job, how would she feel about that? Would she care? If she doesn't then Goku is set with a sugar mommy, but if she does then she'd likely nag at him like Chi-Chi (Though, maybe not as much).>but knowing toriyama she would end up in the kitchenShe would, but it's worth noting that she kept some of her edge when written by Toriyama. BoG movie Videl scolds Satan at some point when he's drunk, and even screams at him later when he makes his usual arrogant comments, while in the anime, Goku made a comment about maybe Gohan not having a pure heart, and Videl only mildly comments that's rude. In Super Hero she also talks about having a martial arts school. She still would be a housewife, but would maybe have a moment or two.>>537729336>There's Yamcha's Roga Fufuken.How did I forget that one? Jesus...
which is the better buy for dragon ball manga?
>>537732459>I'm now surprised that most demons in DB don't have a transformation that makes them uglier, while unleashing their true power...Demons in Dragon Quest tend to get more humanoid as they transform, it's human bad guys that get more monstrous as they transform.
>>537732803Between what and what?>>537732459>IIRC pic related is the only time she pissed him off.Technically she pissed off Gohan, Goku was more like worried the situation was escalating.>And then there's Goku barely having a job, how would she feel about that? Would she care? I mean, Gohan is essentially just a stay at home dad who's studies are financed by his wife since he turned down that job in DBS.The classic 'renaissance man', AKA a fucking nerd who's living off his wife or his family's money.
>>537732865Is that so? Interesting... Reminds me of Inuyasha. IIRC the humanoid Yokai were the strongest ones, so it and Dragon Quest having something similar, I'd assume monsters becoming stronger when assuming human-like forms has something to do with Japanese myths.>>537733132>Goku was more like worried the situation was escalating.I don't know about that anon. Look at his face, that is not the face someone who's worried would be making.Sure Gohan is the one who screamed, but Goku was clearly not happy with what Chichi was saying.>I mean, Gohan is essentially just a stay at home dadWho doesn't even bother picking up his daughter at school...>who's studies are financed by his wife since he turned down that job in DBS.>The classic 'renaissance man', AKA a fucking nerd who's living off his wife or his family's money.Even so, Goku in ToP does suggest that Gohan's job is doing something to improve the universe's level, and in Super Hero, Gohan does seem to be doing an actual job. Even if he doesn't have a paying job yet, he's studying to get one. Goku on the other hand just doesn't really care about money, and makes little effort to have it or make it unless pushed.Videl could be like Bulma and not care, or maybe she could try to get him to do something. I guess the most fitting job would be to have him be involved in her martial arts school... Which could mean more ki users out there if Goku were to be allowed to teach about it (Since characters became really secretive about ki since Satan debuted for some reason). Would be funny though, if Goku were to be a simple instructor there, and taught a bunch of students how to use ki by accident, since martial arts with ki is all he knows.
>>537734448>Since characters became really secretive about ki since Satan debuted for some reasonYeah i don't get it either, they miss one World Tournament and suddenly the fact Piccolo flew around the ring, turned giant, and blew up the entire stadium with an energy blast is suddenly secret information? And that's ignoring Daimou taking over the world and the saiyans nuking a city. It comes across almost like editorial meddling when there's no explanation for it.Even if there's not a single surviving recording of the 22nd budokai tenkaichi the description of the finale alone should read>Son Goku and Tenshinhan fly into the air, clash, and come apart. Both land outside of the arena with Tenshinhan winning by a hair.with hundreds of witnesses to verify it.
>>537734448i think Videl would get Goku his own training school, and while he would absolutely not ask for money, they would probably start getting donations at one point, and if we are assuming Videl exists during kid goku's era Satan would steal the spotlight of defeating King Piccolo somehow, and maybe for Majunior too but it would probably be more funny if Satan is considered the hero that defeated KP and his son in law the one who defeated Piccolo.Jr making him unable to reject Videl marrying Goku because its too good publicity.also Videl will absolutely get offed in the future timeline, i do not see her not trying to fight the androids leaving her version of Gohan absolutely orphaned, which makes Future Gohan's life even more sad
>>537734448>(Since characters became really secretive about ki since Satan debuted for some reason).They're not secretive tho, they just avoid getting worldwide mainstream attention, which make sense, since there's a difference between not keeping something as a secret and wanting everyone to know your face.They also partially did it so Satan's lies wouldn't be exposed.>>537735486Cute
>>537735361>Yeah i don't get it either, they miss one World Tournament and suddenly the fact Piccolo flew around the ring, turned giant, and blew up the entire stadium with an energy blast is suddenly secret information? And that's ignoring Daimou taking over the world and the saiyans nuking a city.The saiyans one makes sense. Vegeta and Nappa arrived and blew up that city within a minute. No one was recording it when it happened, and a news report later confirms the civilians don't even know why that city blew up.Pretty horrifying to think one day, a city blew up, and most of the population doesn't know why or even how, and unlike every other time people got killed by villains, they were not resurrected afterwards.>>537736084>but it would probably be more funny if Satan is considered the hero that defeated KP and his son in law the one who defeated Piccolo.Jr making him unable to reject Videl marrying Goku because its too good publicity.Kek. That would be funny.>also Videl will absolutely get offed in the future timeline, i do not see her not trying to fight the androids leaving her version of Gohan absolutely orphaned, which makes Future Gohan's life even more sadI don't think Chichi was suggested to be alive in the manga... Did Gohan visit her in the Ova?>>537736574>They're not secretive tho, they just avoid getting worldwide mainstream attention, which make sense, since there's a difference between not keeping something as a secret and wanting everyone to know your face.They definitely became more secretive about it in Buu saga.Piccolo did destroy the cameras, but checking out the manga, he did it just in case Gohan's disguise falls. So they only started to actively hide their powers because of Gohan's school life, and later because of Satan (Even then, they were only planning to let him win in End of Z, Goku was putting effort against Uub).
>>537727382Zamn, nice
>>537738465>they were not resurrected afterwardsthey didn't get covered in the "frieza and his men" wish popo made?
>>537739703Vegeta had rebelled by that point (The Namekians he killed rather explicitly weren't resurrected because of this). If the people him and Nappa killed back in saiyan saga were to be included in the wish, then it's not just the civilians who would be resurrected, but also Tien, Yamcha, Nappa, and that one Saibaman Vegeta killed.
>>537740236fair enough
>>537735361Panput had no idea what he's getting into in 22TB despite how insane 21TB was. I think TB is something that people know exist, but only the biggest martial arts nerds actually care to watch. Panput believed it was just one more title to collect. And he was at the pinnacle of "normalfag" fighting world.
>>537740914Even in that case, the 23TB has Piccolo in it, and the spectators fled in fear once they learned Ma Junior is Piccolo. While it wasn't televised, the announcer was there to declare Goku as the champion, and even if the population were to not believe him for some reason, as far as rumors would go, Piccolo was in the tournament fighting someone, and once it ended, Piccolo was no longer a threat. That should at least become an urban legend, and not something everyone forgets about.
>>537742404
So I've been playing a lot of xenoverse 2 recently and this is how I'd rank the races:>M/SaiyanThe default race, the strongest race, the best in PVP>M/EarthlingSecond strongest race, easy braindead xy combo that causes seethe in pvp, but because of their lack of access to transformations, m/saiyans are still straight up better and have better combos that require just a little more skill to use>NamekianThird best race, boring, janky, very easy to play, would be overpowered if their combos weren't clunky ass, first choice of cheaters because of how dumb and unfun they are to play against>F/MajinFourth best race, can abuse Kaioken with the right super soul and Ill Bomber skill, still worse than M/Earthlings in PVP in almost every way>Frieza RaceFifth best. I've seen some really good guys play these, but they just are not that good. Their awoken makes them take more damage and make their combos worse, also on the topic of combos, despite them being a ki super oriented race, they cannot combo into ki supers at all, their combos work best used into strike moves! That's right, frieza race combos work best with strike despite that being one of their lowest stats! Meh.>M/MajinFun combos and they look silly which I like. In the end they're just weaker Namekians but less braindead I suppose.>F/Saiyan and F/EarthlingDead last. Basically the same with minor damage differences and overpowered awokens for the saiyan, f/saiyan combos are so garbage that they're almost unusable in PVP, kinda trash.Thoughts?
>>537740914I read that as just him being arrogant, not ignorant. Their world has dinosaurs running around in the wilds between cities, had dragon people and werewolves and behemoths like bacterian who sometimes just hang around the normal population. Saying that the average person can't even accept that some guys can fly is just eliminating all those fantastical elements that used to be commonplace like the king being a dogman.It's not like dragon ball is a more typical wuxia setting where the story only has the one modern city who's somehow completely isolated from the rural villages still living like its 800, they can look outside the windows of their jets and see the floating mountain ranges with their monasteries peaking over the clouds. The only rule was not being able to approach the Lookout while kami was still alive
>>537610662 The plot of Fighterz happens sometime between the Universe 6 tournament and the Black arc, there's plenty of Super influence in that game. I didn't feel like there was a Z bias. They just put stuff that's popular in it, and just so happens there's a lot of popular stuff in DB from Z. It's like 5% OG DB, 40% Z, 40% Super and 5% GT
>>537744403 Shit I meant 45% Z and Super
>>537741072I don't think 21 will ever appear in anything again despite her popularity. Bamco can be really petty.
>>537748450Just make her cooler
If Fighterz is set in 779 and 21 is less than 10 years old, who the hell made her? Gero was killed and his whole lab destroyed in 767
>>537751575gero had a back up lab with a back up computer who had the same goal as with cell but didn't stop taking more data like gero did (the idiot)also the android was modeled after his late wife for some reason
>>537751654>the android was modeled after his late wife for some reason Well Gero did one of his late son already. I guess a template of Vomi was just readily available in his database
>>537751934yeah but the late son was just a robot that looked like him, not a bioweapon that grew in the shape of him
>>537751654>why would this guy remake his super hot wife???
>>537748450She's had some appearances since fighterz but all of them are from before bandai burned the bridge with arcsys, her failing to get into sparking zero is really telling
>>537752569That's not the question, the question is>how and why would this computer growing a hybrid-magical organism from individual cells form it into the shape of the wife of the computer's creator?We're blessed that she does look as great as she does but there's some sizable contrivance for it compared to just smithing a robot. Cell turned out like some weird fucking cicada but she shapeshifts perfectly into Vomi's appearance
>>537752279 Is 21 a cellularly reconstituted Vomi like 17 and 18 were made from Lapis and Lazuli or was she created differently?
>>537752784beauty is never tarnished and also she's hot, and as we all know the rules are "it happened because it looks cool" and "it happened cause sex"
>>537752784Maybe this computer was a backup of his wife to begin with?
>>537655962 Nice try, Bejitabro
>>537753031she was made like cell was, in a tube for a decade and then another decade laying low and existing on her own before the hunger forced her hand to do the clone plot>>537753162Trust me, i have no problem with it i'm just saying its different compared to our bugman. There's an easy enough explanation that she can just shapeshift into the form because lmao majin buu but still means that the computer was programmed to indoctrinate/explain to her that's what she should look like while inside/fresh out of the tube.
>>537618657 21 has everything Vomi has and additional transformations. And we don't even know what Vomi was like as a person. Since she worked for the RR army like Gero, she was likely evil
>>537755519the cold personality she has before she reveals her majin form is what the real woman was like is my bet, the over the top bits being more of the genes and hunger and the motherly, nice bits being in part due to 16 being best boy
>>537755519Your words would make sense if you could only choose one of them.
>>537741879Urban legends could very well still exist, but then 10 years later, you have a guy that's proclaimed the strongest in the world who says it's all fake, and no one comes out to correct him because none of the people capable of these incredible feats cares atthat point. And even a lot of the guys who saw it with their own eyes could be convinced they were tricked since most of them genuinely couldn't follow the highest level matches to begin with. "It was all special effects" doesn't seem that incredible.>>537743672The thing is, dinosaurs running around are something people could normall run into or see documentaries, but people being capable of flight aren't like this. Kame-sennin was seen as a god of martial arts, and he couldn't do it. Not counting Kami and Popo, Tsuru-sennin, Chaozu and Tenshinhan were probably the only ones capable of flying on their own without wings back in the day in the whole world.
>>537757992>without wingsThat's my point, in the absence of evidence when you already know some really strong dudes have physical wings to fly and you know that the world tournament winner is described as having flown you'd just as soon assume he had wings of some kind or a weird telepathic/mutant power as you would think bukujutsu.Demon King Piccolo took over the world.
What if Majins lost their candy beam and just ate people
>>537719546Manchildren can't accept the truth that there is literally nothing.
>>537726898Looks better than Beast, Daima Bejita SS3, and Daima SS4. Not big praise I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxZmiVUQksA
>>537765598Moro is such a JOBro that he didn't even get to explode unlike Cell, who not only went BOOM, toook Goku and King Kai with him, but also revived again.
>>537769240...and then got killed by a child
>>537772221At least Cell did what he was born to do. SHARTro didn't even have a goal.I miss the mange. I'd rather be getting fanfiction once a month than nothing.
>>537613202 The Demon Realm is Hot Chick Heaven
>>537775579someone kick pan out, she wasn't invited to the demon realm function
>>537775650I don't see Pan in this picture, there's some OC donut snowflake made by Dimps however.
>>537775650>>537775579
Daima is SHIT and it killed the franchise.
Dragon Ball more or less died with Akira Toriyama
I kinda miss the Super manga. Really wanted to see what Toyo would do without Tori.
>>537784186>>537784559>>5377849093 garbage takes in a row, no wonder the thread is dead
>>537786643Daima flopped.
>>537784186>>537784559>>5377849093 amazing takes in a row, no wonder the thread is amazing and scholary.
>>537787473>>537787614>Complet silence despite the tear-fueled samefaggingHow does it feel to be that universally and blatantly rejected?
>>537787614>scholary./dbs/ is that way... Oh wait, you're not welcome there either.
>>537787473>>537787614>Complete* CHADliness despite the tear-fueled samefagging opposition How does it feel to be that universally loved and wanted?
>>537789443>He just had to reply to his own gimmickHurt that bad? Damn. At least you're honest about samefagging.
>>537789337/dbs/ threads have been a lot better since the jannies purged him, sorry you have to deal with him now.
>>537789684don't forget he tried to correct someone's spelling after writing 'scholary' in public lol
>>537775650 *Fixed
XV3 wish list?
>>537775650Robelu's wife is an invited guest!
>>537775579>Round ears AeosFake and gay
>>537791339Pan is Goku's wife tho
pan is a superpositional being wherein her parentage depends almost entirely on how much the author wants to make gohan suffer. If the gohan suffering index is maxed, she's gohan's kid. If gohan is irrelavent, she may as well be Goku's kid
>>537792372>If the gohan suffering index is maxed, she's gohan's kid.And then we have >>537575635, with a wild twice of who's suffering, and how.
>>537793095>wild twice*twist
>>537792139Goku is my wife
Osu?
>>537792372>If gohan is irrelavent, she may as well be Goku's kidReal talk, it was hilarious Pan doesn't mention Gohan and Videl even once in A Hero's Legacy. All she did there was talk about how great Goku is and groom Goku Jr into another Goku.
>>537793917We know, Pan.
>>537794073Come here bby gurl.
Why did you post a picture of yourself and your boyfriend, anon
>>537794073Ayo baddie get ova here
>>537794073Come to my place for some training. I'll teach you a new Turtle School patented technique.
>>537794073Make yourself useful, Kakkarot. We shall remake the Saiyan race.
>>537791182Great models, visual effects, and a map that doesn’t look like generic unreal shitUltimate attacks Team ultimate attacks Destructive finishes NO race-bloat. I’d be fine with just the GlindsInstead, give us more transformations for the non Saiyan races, and give every race a story to tie the transformations into What if characters and formsAn interesting story that isn’t just “uh oh, this guy’s purple!” Replace parallel quests with what-if storylines like we got with BT2, making them branch is optional Change the user interface. It’s very very bland Whoever the main villain(s) are, have Toyotaro draw them If the game is visually based off of Daima’s art style, have Kubota and Toei help Dimps out like Shintani and Toei should have done with Spike, otherwise put the Legends team in charge Giant characters
>>537801343>Roshi's island
>>537801794Whenever I see a Xenoverse 3 wishlist, it makes me sad because a lot of you guys don’t want a Xenoverse 3, you want a SDBH arena fighter. And that’s fine. XV doesn’t even have to mindlessly mimic SDBH, it can make its own content with its own interpretation of the characters and how they and what-if the forms look and what they do. That’s what they did with Fu, after all. But if the game is doing perfectly fine right now then they can definitely get away with the dated plasticky look and purple jelly (or crystals as of Future Saga) in the future. Especially if they provide the illusion of change.
>>537801794>Whoever the main villain(s) are, have Toyotaro draw themWe had that once. Results weren't impressive.
>>537805356i swear toyotaro is incapable of not reusing that face for his villains
>>537805356>Hit (forma del pulpo)
>>537744403i kind of wish they expanded more of the storymode. i kind of forgot how to do my combos. good thing dlc was cheap on sale.
>>537805356I...I liked him. Moro was cool too before he turned into Hit. The fox GoD was badass as well.
>>537805878It is the stereotypical "DB villain face", something Toriyama himself used it a few times, though he was capable of drawing more (Such as how distinct all Cell forms look, even if Perfect Cell has the more generic face).Sealas also had this really weird design when he fused with his robot. Looks like Sephiroth after a charcoal shower.>>537806818>Moro was cool too before he turned into Hit.I have yet to see someone who disagrees with that... An old goat wizard works so well, and Toyotaro just had to remove anything recognizable about his design... It is funny Mechikabura sort of went through the same thing, but not as bad.
>>537806818>turned into Hit He even gets it from absorbing an android lol
>>537722070>Belmod was the coolest thing we got in yearsI agree. I'm not a rosterfag, but I like when games give you characters that none of the other games bother to add. In Belmod's case, he's as strong or stronger than most of the main characters and even the villains, and the DLC's for Jiren so him being there makes sense.
Moro is supposed to symbolize the villains of the original manga. He was an imprisoned villain who escaped and wished to return to his youth like Demon King Piccolo. Stamina wise he is like the androids of the Cell saga. He can also absorb energy like some of the androids. He has telekinesis powers like Guldo. He wants to gather the Dragon Balls on Namek like Frieza. He uses magic like Babidi, Dabura and Buu. He is an ancient evil that fought the Kais in the past and is now freed like Buu. The action packed climax of the Moro arc is basically The Cell Games (the action packed climax of Cell's arc). Almost beat for beat. and there is a lot more (Moro is derived from nearly 20 villains from the original manga).All of this is on purpose. Since he is supposed to personify the villain character. It has to do with the themes of the arc. Since Meerus asks Goku why he fights. And Goku's answer by the end of the arc was that he fights to challenge himself and because he values the excitement of the universe. This is why he fought in the original manga against all those OG manga villains. Meanwhile Meerus and the Galactic Patrol fight to preserve peace in the universe and for justice. Which is different from Goku.This is why I love the seanzu bean moment in the Moro arc. and Goku hoping he could spare Moro. asking him if he ever trained. Because Moro became so strong with magic. and he can become even stronger if he didn't entirely depend on magic and instead started training as well.
>>537809059 Your pasta's stale. I dunno where this originally came from but I'll bet Reddit or Kanzenshuu
>>537808726>but I like when games give you characters that none of the other games bother to add. I still can't believe Sparking Zero screwed them over. Xenoverse did too. I think they just flat wrote Magetta out, but they off-screened Botamo. I genuinely thought they'd make it to Sparking Zero and as the roster got smaller I thought "how are they going to write them out" and they just skipped the U6 arc entirely. They cut Champa (but gave him a badly made model), Frosts' first form, the map, the story, these two, and Goku's Kaioken Kamehameha.
Could a Cell Arc Vegetto defeat Buuhan?
Oh wow I've been watching some videos and I didn't realize so many minions in Gekishin are from OG dragon ball, very soulful
>>537810142 He'd be about as strong as Gotenks, likely a bit more. He could probably beat Kid Buu or Fat Buu fine, but any form of Super Buu would be too much for him, especially if he doesn't have SS2 or SS3
>>537813247Goten and Trunks are stronger than Cell Arc Goku and Bejita. Bejita especially is very weak.
Cell Arc Vegetto would be way weaker than Buu Arc Gotenks. Goten and Trunks are both about equal to SS1 Gohan pre anger amp. SS1 Gohan is much stronger than Goku who himself is much stronger than Bejita. This hypothetical Vegetto would at best have SS2 and be much weaker than Gotenks in Base. SS1 Gotenks is about fat Buu level. This SS2 Vegetto might barely be able to defeat Fat Buu.
>>537820319>Goten and Trunks are both about equal to SS1 Gohan pre anger amp.I don't think so. When they powered up to Goku, he wasn't impressed by their strength, and even after two weeks of so of training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, it seems Piccolo was stronger than them (Since Buu was with Piccolo's clothes once the Gotenks' time limit ended, when it could very easily have been Trunks').They're definitely very strong, but I don't think they're even on Cell Games Goku's level. Unless Piccolo managed to catch up to that level... They might be stronger than Cell Games Vegeta, but even that I'm not sure, since they were only measured to 18 and Piccolo...In DBS' manga they do seem to be crazy strong though, since they were defending themselves against 7 Cell Jrs, and that's nuts, but I can't think of anything they did in Buu saga that puts them on that level.
>>537821138Goten and Trunks are both mastered Super Saiyans. They are both able to easily beat on 18 (while nerfed by the suit) prior to training. One blast from Trunks threatened to kill 18. Piccolo has been training non stop since the end of the cell games. He's for sure stronger than he was. He's in-between his old level (equal to A17) and Cell's level. On the higher end of that he'd be stronger than Goten and Trunks on their own but weaker than Dabura which perfectly fits with what's shown.>since they were only measured to 18 and PiccoloThey were measured up to Buu Gohan which is a pretty good feat.>In DBS' manga they do seem to be crazy strong though, since they were defending themselves against 7 Cell Jrs, and that's nutsI mean kinda. If you think those cell jrs are stronger than the cell games ones. Otherwise that's a sub SS2 Gohan feat. Not very impressive considering 6 years had passed since Buu. As teens they have a very good performance against Cell Max and a decent one against SS1 Gohan.I think I exaggerated a little. If they were kid Gohan pre anger amp level they'd be able to beat Buu Gohan which they weren't able to since he's weaker than he was as a kid. They're closer to Cell Goku level. Definitely above Cell Bejita.
>>537823212>If they were kid Gohan pre anger amp level they'd be able to beat Buu Gohan which they weren't able to since he's weaker than he was as a kidReword:Buu Arc Gohan is weaker than he was as a kid. Since Goten wasn't able to beat 16 year old Gohan, he's definitely not at Cell Arc Gohan's level.
>>537802795>you want a SDBH arena fighter.Yes. That's what Xenoverse always should have been.
>>537790571>>537779598>>537775579>no Note
>>537823212>They are both able to easily beat on 18 (while nerfed by the suit) prior to training. One blast from Trunks threatened to kill 18. >Piccolo has been training non stop since the end of the cell games. He's for sure stronger than he was. He's in-between his old level (equal to A17) and Cell's level.There's a lot of difference between "can threaten 18 with ease" and "Strong enough to match Cell Games Gohan". There were a lot of ballparks in Cell saga that are above 17/18. In order from weakest to strongest:>16>Semi Perfect Cell>Super Vegeta/Super Trunks>Ultra Trunks (In raw power)>Half power post HTC Goku (Specifically stronger than Vegeta)>Vegeta/Trunks after another session in HTC>Cell Jrs>Full power Goku>GohanAnd we also have Piccolo post HTC, with an unknown power level in comparison with the rest, though, it's explicitly below Vegeta/Trunks post the second HTC, but where that stands it's unknown. So Piccolo could still be "only" Semi Perfect Cell level for example.All we know is that Piccolo may be vaguely above Goten and Trunks, and shitting his pants at the possibility of fighting Shin (And given that Shin was baffled at how strong Vegeta is in base form, it really drags down Piccolo).>They were measured up to Buu Gohan which is a pretty good feat.A 7 years of peace, stopped training Gohan... And Gohan talks like Goten isn't on his level yet. Goku and Vegeta shit on Gohan for being much weaker plenty of times, so how that Gohan measures up to Cell Games Goku is unknown, but I'd bet he's much weaker.>If you think those cell jrs are stronger than the cell games ones. Otherwise that's a sub SS2 Gohan feat. Not very impressive considering 6 years had passed since BuuThey were never comparable to SS2 Gohan, ever. And they didn't really train post Buu, so being comparable to Cell Jrs while not really training is nuts (And hilarious given how bad Gohan falls off when he doesn't train).
Do you consider the Boss a loli or a petite woman?
>>537827414lolibaba
>>537827414whichever is hotter atm.
>>537813247Kid Buu is only weaker than Buuhan and Maybe Buutenks.
Give me more Jahy images and I'll do more SKOT edits.
>>537831119>JahyWho?
>>537827321>Strong enough to match Cell Games GohanI reread the parts in question and changed my mind. Here's my new Buu Arc scale[Hypothetical] Ultimate Gokuhan > SS3 Vegetto > SS1 Vegetto > Buuhan > Buutenks > Ultimate Gohan > Buucolo ?> SS3 Gotenks > Super Buu >= Kid Buu > SS3 Goku => SS1 Gotenks > Fat Buu > SS2 Goku (Buu) >= SS2 Majin Bejita (Buu) > SS2 Gohan (Cell) (Enraged Full Power) > SS1 Gohan (Enraged) (Cell) > Super Perfect Cell > SS2 Bejita (Buu) > Dabra = Perfect Cell > SS2 Gohan (Buu) > SS1 Gohan (Cell) > SS1 Goku (Cell) [can't think of any proof for this one way or another desu] ?=> SS1 Gohan (Buu) > Supreme Kai > Piccolo (Buu) > SS1 Kid Trunks > SS1 Goten ?> SS Grade 2 Bejita (Cell) > Piccolo (Cell) > Android 18 > Krillin > Yamcha > FreezaBase Goku (Buu) > Base Majin Bejita > Base Gohan (Enraged) (Cell) > Base Bejita > Base Gohan (Cell) > Base Kid Trunks (Buu) > Base Goten>Shin was baffled at how strong Vegeta is in base formThis would put Base Buu Bejita above Piccolo (who himself is above SS1 Cell Bejita at minimum), which isn't really supported with his Majin Scaling (being that only when Bejita becomes Majin is he stronger than Cell Gohan Full Power). SS1 Trunks is able to hurt SS1 Bejita whilst he's on guard. Trunks isn't super extremely far behind. Master Super Saiyans loldiff the Grade 2 Super Saiyan characters so I think Trunks is beyond that by some bit.I probably messed something up. This arc has very obscure and hard to grasp scaling but I think I got it. To answer the original question, I don't think a hypothetical SS2 Cell Arc Vegetto is touching any of the Buus past the initial Fat Buu. He is probably above SS1 Gotenks.BTW we are exclusively talking manga. In the Anime Goku is above SPC in base or whatever. Scaling is vibe based in the Anime
>>537827321>They were never comparable to SS2 Gohan, ever. And they didn't really train post Buu, so being comparable to Cell Jrs while not really training is nutsIt's disappointing for this point in the franchise where Cell Jr characters are literal fodder. Goten and Trunks train during Super. They train lightly at least. It's been 6 years in world so it's mega disappointing. They're weaker than Gohan was a younger age despite being bigger potential monsters.
>>537833582>Dabra = Perfect CellI don't buy Goku's claim. SS1 Gohan was weaker than Dabura, but the difference didn't seem that big. Cell meanwhile was stronger than Gohan even while not using his full power.>which isn't really supported with his Majin Scaling (being that only when Bejita becomes Majin is he stronger than Cell Gohan Full Power). Yeah, it's probably a "stronger than I expected" situation. But it's still odd... When Gohan goes SS2, Shin says Gohan is stronger than he expected but was still stoic about it. Meanwhile he's completely baffled at Vegeta casually killing... Pui Pui. In base form.>Android 18 > Krillin > Yamcha > FreezaI don't think Krillin or Yamcha surpassed Freeza. In fillers sure, but in the manga's Androids saga, only Piccolo seemed to surpass him, even before fusing with Kami. Afterwards Krillin and Yamcha stopped training, so even more unlikely they surpassed Freeza.>This arc has very obscure and hard to grasp scaling but I think I got it.Yeah there's a lot of vague comments. We have Goku and Vegeta agreeing that Super Buu briefly became stronger after having Fat Buu removed from him. So was the burly Kaioshin that strong? Is it an Ultra Trunks situation?Goku also changed his mind a lot about whether or not he could have beaten Fat Buu ("I can't", "I don't think I could have", "I totally could've won") for no reason.>BTW we are exclusively talking manga.Anime has wild moments like Goku fighting a fake Ultimate Gohan in base (That is explicitly as strong as the original), and the claim that Kid Buu is stronger than every Buu before it, so it's better to use the manga first.>>537834119>They're weaker than Gohan was a younger age despite being bigger potential monsters.Saiyan hybrids are like that... Only really Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Tien like to train.
>>537836798>SS1 Gohan was weaker than Dabura, but the difference didn't seem that bigSS2*. The hairstyle is that of SS2 and narratively it makes zero sense for Gohan to not use it when he had just done it against Kibito. Pay attention to the fight and notice sweat marks (Toriyama's way of showing who is trying harder) and you'll notice Gohan is constantly sweating while Dabra isn't. Dabra isn't trying that hard. Gohan is losing badly against Dabra.>but the lightningIt's not active all the time. Majin Bejita and Goku (on babidi's ship) had a few panels while in SS2 with no lightning for example against Yakon. Gohan was so weak even a Perfect Cell tier opponent gave him issues. This was during the period where the exactness of what SS2 is hadn't been confirmed yet.>I don't think Krillin or Yamcha surpassed Freeza.There is a little confirmation from the Android Arc Piccolo said everyone who is weaker than Freeza shouldn't bother coming. I got flamed once for saying they're weaker. There isn't much evidence either way.>only Piccolo seemed to surpass him, even before fusing with Kami.Base Gohan funny enough was relative to Piccolo enough to hurt Android 20 in a combo move. Goku trained Gohan and Piccolo whilst in SS1. Take of that what you will.>We have Goku and Vegeta agreeing that Super Buu briefly became stronger after having Fat Buu removed from him. So was the burly Kaioshin that strong? Is it an Ultra Trunks situation?IMO it's much less an in world explanation and more out world. The Buff Buu thing is right at the end of a chapter. On the next chap he turns to kid buu.That leads me to believe either Toriyama changed his mind on what the final villain should be or one of the editors told him to change it.>Goku fighting a fake Ultimate Gohan in base (That is explicitly as strong as the original),It's much worse if you use guidebook statements. I was mostly referring to the Pikkon fight.
>Pay attention to the fight and notice sweat marks (Toriyama's way of showing who is trying harder)>Gohan is losing badly against Dabra.>Gohan was so weak even a Perfect Cell tier opponent gave him issues
>Majin Bejita and Goku (on babidi's ship) had a few panels while in SS2 with no lightning for example against Yakon.
>>537839313honestly what WAS goku thinking with feeding yakkon until he burst. What if he just got more powerful like the androids, what was he going to do then?
>>537839446TARDku moment
>>537838593>narratively it makes zero sense for Gohan to not use it when he had just done it against KibitoI'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's probably because the fucker didn't train it.
>>537839446He fed him light, not energy.
>>537839709it may as well be energy given it made yakon explode and how absorbing super saiyan's light put goku into base. Now that I think about it yakon had some weirdass mechanics
>>537839836Yeah, he's basically a walking black hole. Shin had every right to be scared.
>>537839836>it may as well be energy given it made yakon explodeNo, it was the equivalent of force feeding someone steak until their stomach burst, you can't get stronger from that.
>>537840295From a meta perspective sure but how could goku have possibly intuited the mechanics of how yakon's power works to know that it doesn't make him stronger and that he couldn't just stop eating when he's full
>>537840402>but how could goku have possibly intuited the mechanics of how yakon's power worksBecause he's a mystical martial artist for whom that kind of stuff is easily observable. Same way he can understand the mechanism of just feeling someone and instantly teleporting to them.
>>537840402superior fighting instincts and comedy
>>537840402He tried the same thing against Android 19 and Super 17. He does that everytime he sees that type of fighter.
>>537840664Where does he even get it from? I don't remember anyone in OGDB that works that way
>>537840664>He does that everytime he sees that type of fighter.Yakkon isn't that type of fighter at all.
>>537840768Instinct I guess
>>537838593>and you'll notice Gohan is constantly sweating while Dabra isn't. Dabra isn't trying that hard.I was thinking more about Dabura failing at overpowering Gohan when striking with his sword, but fair enough.>Majin Bejita and Goku (on babidi's ship) had a few panels while in SS2 with no lightning for example against Yakon.Yeah, a few, but for most pages they have lightning. Meanwhile Gohan doesn't have a single panel where he has lightning while transformed (Post-Kibito that is). It could be a case of Toriyama forgetting (As the Dabura fight only happens in a single chapter), but later on, when Gohan used the Kamehameha on the Buu egg, there still wasn't any lightning, and a chapter before had Goku and Vegeta with it, and another right after also did.I could buy that Toriyama legit did forget about it during the Dabura fight, but afterwards where Gohan should have lightning aura, he just doesn't, so it all seems to be a deliberate decision for him to not have it. Maybe he is using SS2, but for some reason it's weak enough to the point it doesn't have lightning, which makes no sense since it did have lightning when he used it against Kibito.I would prefer if it was just a straightup SS2, but the lack of lightning around it makes me suspect it isn't, or, again, maybe it's arbitrarily weaker and he doesn't have lightning because of that (Vegetto did have lightning aura for one panel, even though he's using SS1, so there might be some basis for that).
>>537840664>He tried the same thing against Android 19He didn't tho.
>>537838593>Piccolo said everyone who is weaker than Freeza shouldn't bother coming.He more or less said "If you think you don't stand a chance, don't come", but even then, when 17 and 18 beat up everyone, they just say "Trunks was strong enough to defeat Freeza, and even he quickly lost", no comment is made about humans having caught up Freeza's power.>Base Gohan funny enough was relative to Piccolo enough to hurt Android 20 in a combo move.That was a surprise attack. Piccolo did the same to Freeza back when he was much weaker.>Goku trained Gohan and Piccolo whilst in SS1.I always forget Gohan is in that page... I got nothing to excuse that, but I doubt it's indicative of Gohan's power, specially with how strong Piccolo turned out to be, since not only was he capable of defeating Gero, Krillin specifically comments he's ridiculously powerful while not even being a super saiyan. Gohan has no statement/feat that puts him in a similar ballpark.>pic relatedWasn't it confirmed later the statement meant "Less than 1/100th of their size"?>>537840664>Android 19He seemed to be desperate and making rash decisions in that situation at least. Against Yakon he figured it wasn't making Yakon any stronger (Yakon only talks about it being a meal and doesn't boast about a power increase). Against Super 17 he was being retarded.
>>537842494He tried to launch a kamehameha (pic related), and this was after seeing 19 absorbing a previous one. The kamehameha didn't come out, but there was an attempt. I believe he was desperate, and making rash decisions.
>>537842873what's your personal headcanon as to why the heart virus' symptoms started so much later in this timeline compared to trunks'?
>>537842873He was probably banking on the kamehameha not hitting 19 where he could grab it.Remember, 19 and 20 can only absorb with their hands.
>>537832669This little gremlin...
>>537844630Oh that one, I remember her, such a cutie.
>>537844431Does she really host those? Is that in the contract you have to sign before joining?
>>537845787they just sorta happenyou have a bunch of shonen protags all getting hot and bothered beating up villains then coming home, sweaty and exhausted, all in the same room then it just happens
>>537845991>Lots of sweaty men all naked ganging up on a single femaleSounds kinda gay...
>>537846078Bro, your fSaiyans, fMajins, and fHumans?
>>537842989Gohan says "He was healthy the whole time so he never took the medicine", so I assume he somehow took longer to get sick at all.I don't subscribe to the theory "He got the heart virus in Yardrat", Trunks talks like it was some incurable disease in current times, but later on there was one, so it might've been just a particularly nasty earth virus.So I think he just, got infected with it later than it normally would. Could've been from something as simple as eating something from the fridge that had the virus months after his future counterpart did. Manga doesn't imply why it happened earlier (Trunks did theorize the creature that came out of the other time machine could've been the cause, but that turned out to not be the case), so I can't think much why that happened.
>>537842989>>537847096It's because Goku was stronger thanks to the 3 year of intense training.
>>537846078>Involving a f*maleNever.
>>537849082>Goku's immune system given 3 years of training still jobs to the heart virusWhite blood cell bros... we're useless, this is beyond us.
Gamma bros official showcase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTPq3F1zJTY
>>537849659These characters fucking suck, man. It still boggles my mind that people fell for the cheap emotional pop of having Gamma 2 kill himself to do minor damage to a character Gohan kills effortlessly with 3 attacks like 5 minutes later. if that movie operated on any sort of grounded reasoning, Gamma 1 would've been fucking furious at Gohan for sandbagging for so long that it got his brother killed. in a better story, Gamma 1 might've undergone a small arc to come to terms with his anger toward Gohan and forgive him. maybe help him battle another foe later. neo Dragon Ball doesn't do shit like that, though.
>>537849659TOKU SENTAITOKU SENTAI
>>537853305Gamma 2 hit this move on Cell but for some reason audiences cheered instead of ridiculing him. perhaps DC fans are just more mature than Dragon Ball's fandom. LOL
>>537853618Based
>>537853305Gamma 2's death is just Android 16 all over again. The whole movie is just Gohan vs Cell but gayer and more retarded.
>>537853305>It still boggles my mind that people fell for the cheap emotional pop of having Gamma 2 kill himself to do minor damage to a character Gohan kills effortlessly with 3 attacks like 5 minutes later.Losing an arm fucks you up a lot. It would be better if Gamma 2 sacrificed himself after Gohan went Beast though. Show that Cell Max was too much for Gohan and Piccolo, but then he loses his arm and now they can fight back.>if that movie operated on any sort of grounded reasoning, Gamma 1 would've been fucking furious at Gohan for sandbagging for so long that it got his brother killed.It's a power he didn't have yet, but at least a comment that way to really push this idea that Gohan should've kept training would work.
>>537855605>The whole movie is just Gohan vs Cell but gayer and more retarded.Yeah, remember when Cell took Pan hostage and Piccolo infiltrated Dr Gero's organisation?
>>537856556>that Gohan should've kept training would work.You mean the training the movie explicitly tells you he did? What kind of plot point did you invent in your own head?
>>537853305Of course it boggles your mind, you're an annoying retard that seethe at everything, the world is very confusing for your kind.
>>537856705Some people somehow convinced themselves that Super Hero did the whole 'Gohan stopped training' thing again, despite the movie saying otherwise twice.
>>537856578That's all meaningless fluff to pad out a mediocre movie that is a retelling of the cell games>games = 17 and 18>gamma 2 death = 16 sacrifice>gohan gets rage boost form that is literally just super saiyan 2 but designed by post-dementia toriyama>piccolo's orange form is really ugly and the masked namekian dark form from a 20 year old korean db game is cooler in every way
>>537738465Toriyama's last Saiyans artstyle is so fucking good man. These shapes.
>>537833582Goku and Majin Vegeta were equal, it's stated pretty clearlyKid Buu wasn't stronger than SS3 Goku, just more resilient. In fact I'd argue SS3 Goku was a bit better
>>537838854It was pretty even, Dabura is also sweating.>>537842873Goku is losing it because of the virus, he wouldn't do that normally. Just look at his fight with Cell, even when he uses Vegeta's Technique it's actually useful and efficient unlike Vegeta's spam.
>>537857606>That doesn't count!Cope>>537858679He also wasn't trying to overwhelm 19's absorption, it's a completely different situation from Super 17's.
>>537856705He talks like he only trained Special Beam Cannon. He needed a rage boost to access Ultimate again, which shows that even if he trained anything besides SBC, it was half assed. He even tells Piccolo everything will be fine as long as Goku and Vegeta are around, showing his usual carelessness, and at the end of the movie, when Piccolo admonishes him again, Gohan apologizes.He did train, but only how to use a technique, not to become strong again.
>>537859541>He talks like he only trained Special Beam Cannon.He literally tells Piccolo he kept up with his training when Piccolo ask at the start of the movie.> He needed a rage boost to access Ultimate again,That's not what happened, nothing says Gohan couldn't go Ultimate anymore in the movie, he just didn't go ultimate until it was needed.
>>537860137>He literally tells Piccolo he kept up with his training when Piccolo ask at the start of the movie.He did not. He just says he hasn't lost his edge once Piccolo elbowed him.>nothing says Gohan couldn't go Ultimate anymore in the movie, he just didn't go ultimate until it was needed.He was getting beaten up by Gamma 1 and Piccolo had to pretend he's hurting Pan for Gohan to go Ultimate. If Gohan could transform on his own he would have done so.
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>>537861997>Gee, you really think something like that might happen again?Gohan's lack of foresight makes me blisteringly, irrationally angry. Aliens have been kicking your fucking ass nonstop your entire life. Recoome broke your fucking neck. What could possibly lead him to believe that that's just going to magically go away? WHEN FREEZA IS ALIVE AND AT LARGE? REMEMBER FREEZA? THE GUY WHO PUT BOOTS TO YOUR FUCKING ASS AT THE BEGINNING OF SUPER? Fucking CTEhan, I swear to God.
>>537862360>WHEN FREEZA IS ALIVE AND AT LARGE?I never considered that when Gohan talks like he doesn't have to train... Even worse for him to think they can just rely on Goku when Freeza arrived when Goku and Vegeta were away. While Goku and Vegeta did save everyone, Freeza did manage to destroy Earth to begin with, and before they arrived, it took a while for them to be contacted...I can understand him not training as autistically as Goku and Vegeta, but he should at least keep in shape. In Super Hero, Piccolo threw in some weighted clothing on Gohan, and despite Gohan's protesting about it getting in the way of his work, he immediately started working like nothing...
>>537862360I still cant believe this scene happened. I may be too autistic about power levels.>frieza on namek in first reduction form: 530,000>frieza final form power level: 120,000,000>so frieza underwent a x225 power increase>ultimate gohan: 99,000,000>so in revival of f, if first form frieza one shot gohan, his power level is well over 99,000,000 >true form frieza would be over 22,500,000,000>golden frieza modifier is stated to be x50, so frieza's power would be 1,125,000,000,000I think we should've stopped after buu, guys. Even Gohan didn't deserve to get shat on like this.
You guys not talk about fan games like Hyper DBZ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_mE1be7ZFw
>>537865798That's not even the worst power level thing in RoF. Sorbet claims Sisami is on Zarbon's level. Somehow an alien on Zarbon's level kicked Piccolo's ass, and unlike the anime version, in the movie it's not implied that Freeza used either Sisami or Tagoma as punching bags (Can't be the case with Tagoma too, as Freeza killed him in the movie), so Sisami should not be that strong.We also have Freeza's very silly claim that if he trains for four months he'll reach a power level of... 1,300,000. The anime version removed that line.
>>537867049Anon you do remember the whole thing about training right? How it was way more effective than they thought? You're letting power level autism cloud your critical thinking skills.
>>537865798>ultimate gohan: 99,000,000Wait I fucked this up, I left out three zeroes. It gets even more insane.>ultimate gohan is 99,000,000.000>true form frieza would be over 22,500,000,000,000>golden frieza modifier is stated to be x50, so frieza's power would be 1,125,000,000,000,000
>>537867674Freeza's line is still silly, for him to think just doubling his power of his weakest form would be enough. Regardless, Sissmi matching up to Piccolo makes no sense, since he didn't seem to train with Freeza, or train at all.
>>537866840this game is really cool but it got mogged to smithereens by FighterZ. not only visually, but in terms of player accessibility. Hyper DBZ is for the guys who still play KoF 2002 on Fightcade because they love having 24 different motion input commands and obscure knowledge checks. lol
>>537869583>not only visuallyBut the visual presentation of it is top notch. FighterZ gets stale after a while.
Any news on Gekishin Squadra release
>>537871147Heh, been playing msg3 delta and instantly though of EVA's tits
CHADgon CHAD CHADends
>>537862360But Goku getting downed by a laster pistol is fine?
>>537874654You could argue that his guard was down and that's why it hurt him, at least. Nothing else in that movie has any defense.
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>>537874993>his guard was downi fucking hate the idea of that more than frieza's bullshit powerboostGuards being down barely meant jack shit, when you're strong you're simply that goddamned strong all the time. Goku tanked getting axed in the head, high caliber rounds, and rubble falling on him all while completely unexpecting it and only got bruises. An attack that's not even in the same ballpark as you to begin with shouldn't do a damned thing different just because you're not expecting it by dragonball rules; the earthlings hide their power levels they don't lose them.
>>537874654well the reason i brought up RoF was to support the idea that Gohan should be more proactive about training, especially while Freeza is still out there. cause the last time they fought in RoF, he got beat up by First Form Freeza. and Captain Ginyu. it's a bit irresponsible for him to just assume peace will last. i wasn't really talking about Goku.
>>537849659I know that gekishin is ultimately a watered down moba but these videos are still way too basic, at least tell me the fucking cooldowns on these skills if nothing else, it's just hard to get a feel for how the characters will act in a real situation and not against unmoving targets two levels below them
>>537871147It releases next week, the big homo known as OP forgot to update the info
>>537874392>Pan(GT)>It's not Pan(GT)
>>537846230Can't post the image for some reason, but numbers aren't in your favor 70% of patrollers are male saiyans, second most popular is fridges, third is female saiyans (no further clarifying numbers given)So being as generous as possible, spreading numbers almost evenly between fridges, f saiyans, f humans and f majins to account for rankings and neglecting m humans, m majins and namekians entirely, the most females you can get is a little over 20%
>>537880046>the most females you can get is a little over 20%all freezy pops are cock holsters so you can bump that number up some
>>537853305I never liked the gammas either. We didn't get enough time to care.>>537861997I can't decide if this is the dumbest part of nu dragon ball yet
>>537865798>golden frieza modifier is stated to be x50, so frieza's power would be 1,125,000,000,000Ehhhh? When?
The gammas don't suck any more or less than any other oneshot movie character
>>537881515they do suck more, because they're ugly and one is dead for forced "le tearjerk ;((" except that he was evil for 90% of the movie before
>>537881515Those don't try to be anything they aren't.
>>537881631>>537881769I'm sorry your favorite characters Dr Wheelo and Hatchiyack got skipped in favor of the two clankers
>>537881940Hatchiyack is actually based however.
>>537881940I don't even play sparking zero. Nice projection though.
>>537882319Yes, we know from your shitposting you don't actually play anything and just treat this general as a substitute for /dbs/
>>537617589How popular would you say are 17 and Hit? I remember that in the beta technicals already had the shortest queue to the point they gave you a bonus for queueing in that role because understandably most people aren't thrilled to play as Krillin, toddler Gohan, fat Buu and 1st form Frieza. With Cell being a tank and depending on who the last attacker is, I don't see things changing much.
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>>537893287...is shit
>>537893456Stop being jealous, Towa
>>537893287...is great!
>>537893797Towa is hotter
>>537827414Depends on the artist. The majority of her anime/official/fan art depictions draw her as petite, but sometimes she's drawn as a loli. Most of the early Chronoa stuff, including XV1's cutscenes, was loli, but nowadays, not so much.
>>537900208XV2 is such a downgrade, wow. Even her ears and eyes are smaller.
>>537900208Why does the top look so much better? Where is it from?
>>537901768SDBH makes her eyes bigger, but they keep the shorter ears and older-looking feature placement.
>>537902410XV1. She was redesigned after that game.
>>537541664free for states to pick their own laws
what would you think if the Cell Jrs came back, but grown up so they look and sound like Perfect Cell
>>537625382Texas passed a law banning AI generated images of child porn, and people are acting like it outlaws Pan doodles. What's funny about it is Euro countries have had stricter laws regarding fictional CP for over a decade but nobody cared
https://files.catbox.moe/mpyyzx.pnghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOAZ65lZ6KU
>>537728318gogeta looks decent, mostly because of the vest pulling attention away from the weird nipple hair and the cuffs pull attention away from the giga hands.
>even Yamamoto doujin is doing less DB stuffThe writing is on the wall
>>537880040This is from a GT flashback.
>>537827414petite. she has some beestings, and hips. neither of which a child would have. I've seen adult women with her physique before.
>>537908875Nice
>>537874392truly abhorrent anatomy
>>537909852has he done anything with Fasha yet? or any of the Episode Of The Day lolis? he hasn't done Panzy Arinsu or hatgirl, I know that.
>>537909852It's because Yamamoto will be the one who inherits DB and he'll finally make sex canon. Trust the plan!
How's Breakers nowadays? Dead? Last time I played being the raider was like pulling teeth getting ganked by organised d*scord premade fags and every survivor having a million get out of jail free cards
>>537911290>Yamamoto and ROMtaku take over the seriesbest timeline
My next question is why don't more artist draw her with the fattest ass in the universe as is her divine right?
>>537911154>has he done anything with Fasha yet?I don't think so. I don't think he did anything with Gine either.>or any of the Episode Of The Day lolis?It doesn't seem like he cares that much about lolis. He has drawn loli Chi-Chi a few times, but never a doujin. He did draw one with Bra, but despite her being Pan's age, she's not drawn as a loli in GT, and Yamamoto definitely didn't draw her as one (As opposed to Rom, who does).
>>537911673>Rom making canon time patroller adventures with two Pans>They tease (You) if (You) did a good job
>>537911501Same as usual
>>537911290i'll be using this
https://youtube.com/@AnimeAdventuresPan's English VA has a YouTube channel
>>537915479That's cool.
>>537912525he did do Pan in the Kame school stuff.
>>537867049>>537867674>>537868965>>537865798There's no critical skill to be hadnumbers are retarded and long forgottenToriyama just went "wow! this alien? He's a big henchman like... Zarbon! Also Freezer is getting... the bigger number, like 1300 000! nice! Sugoi fighter!"
>>537916964>I don't have to use my brain!I don't think you know how to.
>>537917543Common sense dictates that these don't matter, these never tried to make sense and these shouldn't be analyzed seriously (it's okay for fun)It's just like Toei putting base Goku against Mystic Gohan in Buu's body and having him go "wow! he's as powerful as the real deal!". It's meant to be a very simple "wow! strong enemy! thrilling!" statement, not a fucking powerlevels lesson.
>>537917794It's not common sense to make weird scenarios about people you don't know instead of analyzing the work itself.
>>537918420I analyzed the workThe work is working with fast and loose """rules""" that are basically "rule of cool matters more than anything else" which is why Goku and Vegeta don't even bother to stay SS2 at all times against their opponents during the Buu saga even though it would be incredibly dangerous and they'd get blitzed to death otherwise realisticallyPowerlevels, speed, scaling, none of this makes sense. Toei's powerlevels are CLEARLY schizophrenic trash but for Toriyama you have to think a little to see the holes because he had a decent sense of consistency. That's why manga readers tend to think they can make sense of these powerlevels. They can't. Goku is supposed to be multiplying his power by 10 against Freeza yet he doesn't instantly die the second he gets hit without Kaioken. That's because it doesn't matter and anon trying to make sense of that is an autistic 40 year old
>>537693192>exemple of illiteraryGod damn I've been in this board for too long
>>537701207Nah that's Luigi, the way he greentexts is far too obvious, I don't know if it's a fetish or what but he always uses to make the person he's arguing to say "don't point out x at me! don't humilliate me! don't prove me wrong!" etc etcOnce you notice you will recognize him every single time he's here. Which is far too often, sadly.
