Warden updates the OP edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/08-18-2025-update.75046/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>537513702
>>537561336You need to be on meth to play this game in generalit's way too fucking busy
>>537561152anon cant read
>waaah waaaah Warden is too strong!
>>537561570a lot of your games are just going to have 1 - 2 feeders who allow the enemy team to keep pace with you, they either identify them correctly as the "weakest" players on your team and act accordingly or said players are just so remarkably enthused about throwing their lives awayhow long was the match? i want to divide the match time by their deaths
Valve adding a fox motif hero when???>>537561426Yet she was interested in p*cket. I'm sure 90% of us chads in this general would be more interesting than p*cket once a real life maelstorm happens.
>>53756178951 minutes
>>537561876She wasn't interested in pocket, she was interested in his last name. Dumb lorelet coomer
>>537561953nearly one death every three minutesremarkable!
>>537561876>I'd be more interesting than a dude carrying a briefcase with ghost frogs Makes you wonder why you can't get a gf irl.
I always do well with Mina, not sure where all the sperging in the thread comes from.Are you building counterspell?
>>537561751god ivy is so hot when she's ugly
>>537562024They were pretty close to losing too, literally if she werent so dogshit we'd have wonI love it when it just takes one insanely bad player to make winning impossible and your hour is up in flames anyway heres vindicta with big tits breaking into your house
>>537561286Rate this game.
>>537562057Billy is literally me. That's far more interesting that a frogcaca.
Shameless repost from last thread>drifter in lane keeps just standing under the bridge getting swiss-cheesed by lash and victor>keeps pinging me to "go in" on a 2/3 health lash when he is on barely 1/4 health>after his 5th death from just standing there and getting shot I enter zen mode and accept the game as lost since he's fed the victor in lane to be unkillable
>>537562206It looks like you were the weak link on the team
>>537562141Post a replay, I'm not good, even when I do 'well' on Mina and win it's pretty clear I wasn't carrying by any means, I am curious what doing well looks like.
Okay im having trouble finding artists for the mina/Paige commissions someone hit me with recommendations (price doesn matter)
>>537562141post rank
>>537561876>Yet she was interested in p*cketShe was interested in becoming a Fairfax. She was slighted by Pocket not remaining a Fairfax himself, ruining her chances. >>537562000is right.
>>537561751Abrams is making some life choices right there
>>537562376Only billy had some anti heal. Without me Victor would stomp them.
>>537562252>Billy is literally meInteresting, let's see what the Doorman has to say about Billy.>Normally, I would take this time to make you confront your inner demons, but in order to do that, you’d have to be a person with some sort of actual passion and drive, but you’re not!>You’re a caricature of outrage, a contrarian who thinks that hating something is the same thing as being interesting. So please leave, you’re dreadfully boring. Hmmm.
neon prime geist is cool
>trying out a new hero (ritualist 2)>get matched against a Phantom 4 playing on their one trick mainwhy is the matchmaking so unbelievably dogshit?
>>537562206Didn't blur the Patron's face, now the whole general knows where you live
>>537562759naaaaaaaaa no thank you give me the rich snob lady
>>537562503I recommend you touch grass>>537562759No its not, stop reposting this shit. Thank god valve abandoned neon prime, I'm a valvedrone but even I'd like it to fail.
>>537562748>no purpose, no ambition>just hate for the sake of hatebilly is so fucking based
>>537561876she literally doesnt give a fuck about pocket besides his wealth and namemina only likes 8ft tall white emo chads
Repostin:Intensifying Mag on Victor feels pretty good. Anyone running hybrid gun/spirit on him, or at least early gun into dummy stink tank?>>537533119 #Free feedback :^)>>537545263 #This only works in the peak of the bell curve of mmr but it does work amazing. Even better when your team is so uncoordinated that they accidentally fill the space.>>537548335 #I miss the old theme. Spooky vibes and the crescendo was peak>>537554185 #>>537561662I haven't touched warden since the shop upgrade, but I just haven't been able to do as good on him for some reason. I think it's because I would yolo in with slowing hex and cold front, and with the speed reworks I'm just always chasing people. As they walk out of the cuck cage.>>537562104If you know it's a loss then you just have to have fun and meme.
>>537563031You are not going to sit on 4chan, an anime porn image board, for a fucking unreleased invite only BETA TEST and tell me to fucking touch grass you little shit twat. Do you have any fucking self awareness at all or are you as brainless as the balance team?
>usually play in a stack of very mixed elo>according to the game I bounce around initiate 2-6>the matches I play are always with people of a higher ranking, and I hold my own quite capably at that level>decide to play a couple of solo queues for the first time ever>it's like watching two teams of knuckledragging retards scurry around a map>become the reason for the other team having a state mandated lossThe mmr in this game is absolutely fucked.
when are they going to take the new heroes off the special roster where they don't count towards your pick 3?i've had all of them and haven't gotten any of them a single time, my entire match history is mo and krill (my main).apparently putting characters you never play on the roster is how you get the new heroes, but isn't the entire point of the pick 3 roster system to prevent onetricking? why is the matchmaker favoring giving me my main?
>>537563251howd riot figure this shit out but valve cant
>>537561286>>537561662>never played Warden>have to pick 3 non-new heroes>put Warden in there>shit I get him>realize his kit is easy to understand>no tricks or skill shots>build is always the same>can cause so much asshurt with flask and slow hex>bane of so many movement faggotsWarden is growing on me. I'm terrible at timing his ultimate and the build I'm following is pretty much max flask and ultimate and go crazy in enhancing nothing but the flask since it is so low in cooldown.
>>537563215Seems like you're about to pop an aneurism. Go breath some fresh air, you need it
>>537563374a lot of the potential for winning late in league is thrown out the window for going late, there is no surrender so instead of just giving up people have to play it to completion and that includes the ahead team just absolutely fucking up and throwing it away
>>537563174Now this is some organic shipping. Like, of course an undead Vampire likes an undead Zombie.
would the game actually be any worse if they removed all stat boosts from items and just kept the actual benefits that change your playstyle? you'd have all the same tactical decision making, but you'd also still have to play the game instead of just holding W and mashing buttons to 1v6 because you're up 20k souls
>>537563251>only play in a stack in a game that only matches stack against stack>play solowtf why is this different?
Sinclair feels so bad. Abilities are trash and his model looks pretty bad. Since i came back i didnt see anyone play him.
>>537563472Wardens awesome, great lane poker and debuffer, decent shield and speed buff, oppressive snare, and the 2nd best ult in the gameAll that and still one of the hardest hitting guns in the gameFitting for the main character
>>537563612Everyone loves Victor, he's a boring mope
>>537563787If I was a tall goth shirtless guy i'm sure everyone would love me too
>>537563756Wdym, Abrams is a main character
is there a worse laning partner than a passive Paige? I think I'd rather be whacked in the balls repeatedly or just 1v2 than have a Paige who thinks she's being helpful by staying behind tower and buffing me
>>537563687Thay already removed 80% of them
>>537564040>Trained from life since birth to combat the paranormal>Only one that seeks to destroy the patrons rather than reap their wishes >Leads the charge in battle >Best mustache in the gameHe's a shonen protag
>>537564041paige is the dedicated clueless gf function but her laning is irregularpretty sure you have to constantly take trades while simultaneously pushing the wave and let your lane partner last hit, without taking bad trades that throw the lane
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/s/Mw6ZGQ7DJKDotards, your response?
Ivy a cute!
>>537564040>abrams crying about some book that's bad>warden wants to kill every smug false godhmm
>>537563750Once you learn how to wrangle his bolts you will chunk people's health bars like a fucking wood axe
>>537564287Also:>comes from a long generation of monster hunters>mother and father died failing to protect New York City from magicfags >Only one capable of keeping the patrons and doorman from reading his mind
>>537564053and yet you can still have shit like this happen, where my entire team fucking left but I got enough of an early game lane advantage that I could get momentum to constantly push 5-6 people out of my base while soaking up 3 lanes of souls and eventually took the entire game>b-but drifter is OP and scales on killmaybe, but I could only get those kills because I could buy items and triple my healthbar. if they only had the conditional parts of greens instead I would just get focus fired from raw attrition as they took my baseso except for enabling people to only learn part of the game, why have stat boosts at all? they make sense in an actual moba because you can't actually dodge auto attacks or even most nukes reliably but that's not the case in this game
>>537564287I would argue Billy is more of the shounen protag, literally everyone else has some supernatural edge or powers. Him? He's just got goat head and a hatred for everything. He's fighting superhumans with nothing but spite and grit.
i hate that Abrams is completely dogshit to play but release characters like Billy
>>537563756Is this build solid? It's what I've been using.
>>537564616if you wanna get technical billy is more supernatural than wardenwardens just a guy that knows alchemy, billy has a mystical goat head
>>537562584I still think they're cute together and that their hate sex would be WILD
>>537564616billy is more like the first guy the protag beats up who becomes his best friend that does nothing but job for the rest of the series. if you're coming from the underdog angle lash is right there and literally just a strong guy with some rope
>Dynamo in mid-boss pit>Standing at the bottom of the stairs to get into the chamber>Somehow get caught in his fucking ultbroken ass bullshit
>>537564616>shounen protagonist>no friends>no goals>personality is being a hard headed contrarian retard
>every *good* build has enchanters and battle vest>every build now also has opening rounds to get people under the health threshold for each of them fasterfucking lol
>>537564654Yeah its good, you can kinda build almost anything on warden, focus on flask, focus on ult, focus on gun and it'll workpersonally I prefer to dip into gun early then go all in on his ult
>>537564041I've somehow managed to basically guarantee I get Paige every game so I'm on the other foot, where having a passive/idiot lane partner is fucking horrible because Paige has such a weird time confirming/denying. Or they'll get a shield and then decide that's the right time to completely disengage.
>>537564654>>537564897did they do something to make majestic leap -> charge warden ult in midair so you land right on the teamfight with it not good?
entire team built heal reduction items btw
Why does Victor's ult stun go through literally everything and with infinite vertical range?
>>537565054nope it still works great
>>537563687I think they're fine, they add some flavor and additonal choice, like if some items didn't give ammo every gun character would require titanic mag
>>537565108you actually need to build bullet/spirit shred against victor, not antiheal
>>537564287>>537564395Nah he is a mysterious side character who does one cool thing and gets a spin-off later on. Abrams is as close to John Normalguy in this setting as it gets, plus he knows a lot of other heroes, has ties both to criminal underworld, mystic bullshit and lawful part of society. His profession as a PI is perfect for lots of episodic happenings with the whole story about his book being the underlying big plot.Also Warden is boring as fuck.
>>537564348Between the two, what do you guys think Deadlock has more of; League or Dota players?
>>537565108I keep telling you niggas Victor is broken. Who the fuck thought giving a champ a free revival every 3 minutes was a good idea? He's like Dr Mundo but on steroids.
>>537565225spoken like a true bara faggot
>>537564348>redditMy response is ''didnt read lol''
>>537565261probably dotardsit's dota: the hero shooter, developer and allthe design ethos of "autistic, player unfriendly bullshit" is pure dota
>>537564889I've stopped bothering with buying enchanters for that specific reason.I don't think I've ever seen a game where it hasn't been a waste of souls
>>537565304his revive is the least broken part about him he has a spammable ability to restore 20% of his hp on hit
>>537565304in this game you can buy a stun which you put on people that cause you problems, it's called "knockdown"silence wave is also really good
>>537564591Am I reading this wrong or did you seriously win a 1v6? Literally what rank are you?
>>537564339>>537564927yeah I think Paige has been genuinely good in lane the one or two times I've seen a good player know how to use her but then probably the majority of the time I get one (oh how I love shitlow) that's either in another universe thinking if she shields me she's done her work (at like the dumbest time when there's no wave?) or just baiting the enemy into bursting her down. I need to try her out to see what her kit is, I know she has so much synergy with certain abilities but it feels like my partners use only 1/4 of her
>>537565552>>537565304In terms of his kit I'd put it something likeSpammable debuff remover > 20% heal > revive > aura that makes melee heroes useless
>>537565363Thanks for the reminder, Abrams is an eye candy too, even more of a MC material then
>>537565470This. Deadlock is full of "There's no reason for this mechanic to exist other than to make the game more tedious/unfun" so it's definitely more DOTAesque
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>537565763funny how its always easy to spot you fags
PSA: Anyone who plays or even mentions league of trannies are 100% trannies.
>>537565841they look nothing alike
>>537565885>NOOO STOP CALLING ME OUT
>>537565841My black woman wife Haze
>Go on an 8 game win streak>Go on a 4 game loss streak immediately aftertry to make it a bit less obvious valve
>queue for 3 games>lose 3 times by pure stompsOh well. Too many unemployed faggots. I'm done till MM is fixed
>>537565841they really should change them a bit every time we play my friend says get the black woman but they have wraith, haze and calico
How are you supposed to play Drifter when the ennemy team move by packs of three and deathball in mid all games?I just split push, steal camp and take objectives but it just sucks playing PvE all game, i want to be a hunter, not a lane janny.
>>537566228it's labour day
>>537565885funny because nobody brings up League more than obsessed ass Dotafags LMFAO>>537566228lol you will never be satisfied because you expect to just queue up and win for doing nothingI bet you haven't even bothered to practice aiming or movement mechanics
>>537566228I'm basically an unemployed fag and I had two of the sweatiest Pocket/Vindicta lanes into my Victor and the stomp was unreal (played 90 hours the past two weeks, I just don't give a fuck anymore)
>>537566352Play at a lower rank
>>537566352welcome to shitlow where the enemy team deathballs and your team does nothing to capitalize on ithave fun
>>537566352If they move as a pack of 3 then hunt for the leftovers who are clearing up waves and nearby jungle.
>>537565870You know its possible to appreciate character's design without going full coomer at it right? I do want to fuck Abrams alright, but entertain the thought.
>>537566228Why is unemployed an insult now? If you're bad at the game you should quit your job and focus on it
Just had the worst game of all time. Game ended with a 50k soul diff, my team had 4 kills at the enemy team had over 50. Never playing with my friends again, they spent the whole game feeding.
>>537566372Yeah man my aiming and movement would have helped a lot here. Maybe it would have helped my other teammates not go 0-5 in a lane across the map.
>>537566228Learn to hustle and game at work
>>537563687Being better at farming is a skill
Thought the numbers would drop immediately after Victor but we actually reached a new peak today, on a Monday even
>>537566543remember: having fun is always the main thing and friends are more important than wins
>>537565885League wonWorlds wonValorant wonArcane won
>>537565885how come the league community is 70% trannies yet there's none in dota
>>537566816I don't have fun getting my teeth kicked in (:
Can you even change server regions anymore? I still have horrible queue times and get paired with the same people.
>>537566964I can call people slurs in dota and keep 12k score :3
>>537566732it's labour day
>>537567032Not in Europe which is where most of the players are
>>537566979afraid of a little adversity, anon? you know that hard times create hard men or whatever the fuck
>>537567113they banned porn or some shit so they got nothing else to do
>>537567113Its 11 pm in EU, prime time for gaming
gun paige is kinda poggerino desu tho desu desu
>>537567113It's still a lot of burgers who wanna game a little dl
>>537567303just split shot and nothing else is already bussin for pushing fr no cap
>>537563197back when shop update came out, I became the fastest, most powerful raid boss warden for a while. Eventually they split Boundless Spirit with a new item, the Radiant Regen, so, that hurt a little
>>537567168I'm afraid I might call my friends niggers.
>>537567634remember that the ugliest person is the one that has the ugly in their hearts, not the other way around
>>537565261league players because the hardcore dotards have a hateboner for deadlock taking away icefrog + there are about 15x more ex-LoL players than dotardst. dotard
Smite sisters. What ability/god from Smite would you like to see in Deadlock?For me it's Chiron and Cu Chulainn.
>>537566517>listen im a faggot but im not a faggotwhatever you say homo
>>537568114Khepri or Hou Yi
>>537567772Nigger
>>537558476It feels odd. I try gun Ginnis all the time and yet, eventually I feel like my damage drops like a rock and I can spray down someone like Haze or Talon with mass fire rate and they might get "close" but it's never enough.What build do you have?
Someone give me a broken warden build please I wanna go call of duty
>>537567634if they can't laugh about getting called niggers they're not your real friends
>>537564348>>537565261RIOT got trolled into making a fighting game because there were ""files"" about one being made by Valve. Turned out to be a mini game and released "DEADLOCK". RIOT stopped all main development on 2ko and began working on their own version of a 3rd person moba shooter. It was known that riot developers and vallrant devs were playing together as a stack in deadlock.
Is rapid recharge on billy a meme? I can see where it comes from but his 3 already gives a charge back. Maybe cd reduction or another green item would be better.
>>537568481Proof or never happened
>>537563704It's more a comment on why the fuck my rank remains literally exactly hte same despite winning matches in a rank much above my own.The game's rank system is so fucked I often rank up on losses and lose ranks on win.
Heal yeah, healing Victor. Honestly if you can't get positive healing on him at the end of the match you're playing him wrong. You can now hover over to see how much damage you've done to yourself and it gets substracted. Neat feature.
>shrugs off healbane, toxic bullets, decay, and 10 forms of CC in your path>walks into your team with monitor turned off, presses 3 on keyboard, kills everyone
>>537568608yeah but likeanother charge man
vgh...image....ze hideout but....it's le snowing...
>>537566629you should've won your lane harder then
>>537568904There is 8 second cd between charges either way, it's not like you can just spam 1 three times in a row
>>537569001rapid recharge reduces the time between charges to 4s anon
>>537568874>>537568895Literally your own fault if you die to Victor. Just don't go near him. Play smart. He's slowest character there is for a reason but people are too dumb to realize that. I've always said spirit lifesteal items need a nerf, but nooo... muh Sevens... muh ults...
I seem to struggle the most when i have to aim vertically and look upwards how do I get better at this? Idk if its just my sensitivity and if i need to adjust it
>>537569110>Just don't go near him.*walks under your walker*
any leaks about next content update?
>>537569110>juggernaut surge of power healing tempo radiant regen jumpstarts in your direction
Unpopular opinion but I like mcginnis
>>537569092Damn I guess I can see why it can be good now
>>537569223We're getting the priestBut that's only because he's a leftover that was supposed to be released in this big update apparently. Dunno why they changed their minds, maybe they felt his kit needed more fine tuning?
>>537568608I don't know what to build on that fuckI hate how 1 is counted as light melee then as heavy, surely it's like that just to piss me offAlso fuck 3 not working on minions. Just give a reduction on bullets recharged, schizo design to recharge on everything except the most populated enemy type
>>537562935she's cool too but spectre is 2edgy4me i like him
>>537569217>>537569260Here's an example of who Victor deals most damage to in a normal game. Notice anything? The ones Victor takes most damage from is the exact totem but in reverse. Walking under Walkers is a tactic to apply EE and to siphon life. If you stand far away your pea shooter of a gun does no damage to walkers and all your abilities are short range shit. If there was an option to stand far, people would do it. There are others who rush into the walker at higher tier games like Billy, Seven, Mina etc. because they dodge up and avoid the whole slam and continue damaging the Walker. Learn to play.
>>537569223boho on halloween for sure, trust
>>537569364I'm on mariana trench mmr so I just build melee.2 to engage, 1 to slam, 3 to go CUH RAYZEEE, 1 again to slam, hold m1 and melee people until they die. Lifestrike, spirit snatch and crushing fists make him delete everyone, and his gun has infinite bullets because of the recharge when meleeing. Ult when people try to flee
why is warden like that
>>537569529He's the FPS video game protagonist
>>537569529>>537563756
>try out sinclair for the first time, usually emissary and figure I'll get some easy matches>go up against a lane playing perfectly, dodge every bolt, partner is a doorman that doesnt use doors or cart even once>huh, maybe it just put me in a normal game>team averages: seekerIs literally everyone smurfing in this game
Visual style tier listVictor > Doorman > Billy == Mina > Bread > Paige > Shit > Drifter
>>537562759as geist? nobut a ghost samurai or haunted armor could work with a different kit
>>537569223vro... valve is about to take a christmas vacationwe wont see an update till halloween
>>537569723Billy should be higher, his spell effects are pretty damn cool
>>537569713be honest; do you think you are going to play sinclair perfectly your first time?
>absolutely suffering to win>finally do>all because one faggot was feeding extremely and throwing every chance he could>repeat ad infinitumi really hope they will balance this shit out because the negative power a single person has over the game is fucking overwhelming
>>537569962no but we won anyways because i was better at using dynamos ult than their dynamo just think its funny how scuffed low rank is
>>537570253usually the high rank and the low rank difference is the high rank knows when their power spikes for their characters are and can cinch a victory quicker than the back and forth you see in lower tiers, so if you had trouble getting over the hump to finish the game then it was most definitely low tier gameplay
>>537569529protag energy >>537569223all we know is priest and boho are absolutely next up since they were close to done with this current batchmoney is on priest being the one that comes without a vote
parrying krill ult
I love this hero.
>>537568114God I hate hirez so much. So ma y hot heroes in that game. But they fucking killed it.
>>537563756>main character>Still using a placeholder model that doesn't even reflect his character bio.
>>537566730>Being better at farming is a skilland you would still be rewarded with the active powerspike from items if you're better at farming, you would just still also need literally any other skills too instead of seven being able to just shoot in the general direction of the enemy team while hitting abilities on cooldown and 1v6 because he's also a stat check now from pasive buffs
Competitive victor will unironically have a high skill cap because you have to have extremely good movement to effectively compete with players. The characters entire playstyle is about abusing his aura, no matter what build you're playing
what's the point of debuff remover if it can't remove knockdown?
>>537568114rama would fit perfectly into deadlock>gun based>dash>ult that lets you jump into the air and strike the enemy
>>537570702Saving the best for last, cant rush perfection
>>537570780This. I'm not seeing any fleetfoot or kinetic dash in the victor builds posted here; actually criminal and trash behavior.
>>537570780who gives a fuck about competitive?
>>537570827it can
>>537571006there is only one gamemode and everybody has a rank so you are participating in competitive whether you realize it or not
>>537571127rank does not mean anything in the current system and it's an alpha; I've seen stompers in arcanist and dogshit players in archon
>>537569223late october/early november8 new heroes and more uodates to the maphalloween themed changes on the map again with some skins challenge system
>>537571049when I got stunned all my items went on cycle
>>537570494>that second of disbelief
>>537571317>No casual game modeOwari da
>>537571237That's because they were being tested to see at which rank they should start at.
>>537570780should i get big jump or blink on victor? or slowing hex?
>>537570780Do you mean comp as in eternus 6 pubs or team vs team? Even in high rank pubs he stomps because teams just aren't 100% coordinated even if everyone is technically great at the game, for pro matches he probably won't be picked much since he is easy to shut down if everyone is communicating.
>>537560415>why do I need to buy some insurance items lol, I'll sit in the back and do nothing the whole matchAnd you guys wonder why you lose games. To do damage, you need to put yourself at risk. Saying you'll play like a 3k sniper from dota is outing yourself as a 3k sniper from dota. Reactive barrier:>natural scales with spirit>only 1,600 gold>restores stamina thus giving you a 1 stamina boost in fights>"NOOOO!!! I HAVE TO BUY SPIRIT BURN!!!"If you're actually landing your ult, you don't fucking need spirit burn lol. But that requires playing aggressively, something you don't have the balls to do
>>537569223cosmetics finally released for real money.>>537571527aram players are legitimate subhumans.
>>537571694>only 1,600 gold...and takes up a slot from a better item
>>537569887i think geist kit kind of fit him, like he got daggers, bomb. i think he was supposed to be vampire of sorts.
>>537568859not that guy but i played against the valorant director one time in the early beta after getting invited through a thread on /v/.his aim was really good.
>>537571393you have to use it before the stun, while the anvil is above your head, and it'll cleanse
this n word victors been nerfed twice already and is still insane, theres no balancing his kit
>>537571906have you tried not standing right next to him
ngl this game would feel better if it was hitscan
>>537571006based retard
Is Mirage any good?
Btw to that guy a few days ago asking about it, reinstalling brings up all "the votes are in!" screens again
Hear me outWhat if Infernus and Mina swapped their abi 3s
>win in a stomp because they have new players>lose in a stomp because they have new players>win in a stomp because they have new players>lose in a stomp because they have new playersthey need a new player queue specifically for people with less than 100 hours or something
>>537572545FORDEDJINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNyes, his ult is always useful if you have the game sense for it
>>537572584>what if infernus did absolutely nothing
>>537572545Requires you to be an actual aim god just to get ok results
I haven't played in like a yearWhat's the good vindicta build now? spirit build around stake?
>>537572836you pick gay talon
>>537572545He's mediocre and pretty bland to play.
>>537573035I can't pick him he still looks like a mexican grandma
>>537572545Boring to play. You just shoot.
Is Billy any good if I hate pressing melee and parry? I like being up close and mashing all my buttons and holding M1.
>>537572739if you're getting ok results it's because of your ganking or lack thereof, much more than your aiming.
>>537572545He was S tier since release but I guess shop update changed that
>>537573347maybe with a bunch of bat charges
>>537572673yes that's the plan
>>537567303It's crazy how fucked she is against disarming hex and simply being out of position, but that relies so heavily on teammates that it just might be pubstomp.>>537567484What's the core for the build? I have mixed feelings of TC on him since preupdate I had the issue of falling off on long games after getting +10 kills and +15 assists which TC would've been perfect to help with.>>537568379Bump but I also like putting people in the cuck cage.
What's the best lane pusher and tower destroyer character in the game?
>>537573858paige
>>537573858Wraith.
>Games played 50>Games won 18In my defence, half of those losses weren't my fault. I'll take full blame for that other half though?
There are people out there right now who want Vindicta to look like left again.Alpha playtest was a mistake.
>>537574273you need to play paige until you learn how to play girl
>>537573858Paige, gun.Vyper, whore. Ivy, rat. Wraith, rat.Haze, rat. Drifter, rat.
League players try not to act as casual trannies (Impossible)
>>537574370new has has no chin and ugly hair
>>537574370left looks like a goth girlright looks like an instagram bimbo
>>537574428You're suppossed to insult, Vyper, not compliment her.
uhh B-tier bros?
>rise up 3 ranks in a few weeks after surge of new playersshows that the jaded faggots were cheatingI knew itno way they would beat me otherwise
>>537574929>new players are worse than old playerswhat the....
>didnt play for a week after 6th added>can queue new heroes no issue nowawesome
>>537574554So... A goth girl?
They need to up the base move speed of characters the game really feels too slow. I feel like you have to get enduring speed on nearly every character and then fleetfoot on any character that is too slow. And because enduring speed is such a useful and common item, I think juggernaut shouldn't be an upgrade from enduring speed. It's an extremely good item, it being built off of enduring speed is just way way too good especially since not only is a great health item just by the stats it gives but passively lowering the DPS of any M1 character is VERY strong. IMO juggernaut should be split into two items. Have juggernaut be a 3200 item that gives the stats of enduring speed but on top has fortitude's passive. Then fortitude now becomes a t4 that gives the +8 regen and fire rate passive of current juggernaut, with the health and 2% max regen buff of fortitude.
>>537575006if you live in EU and play at 1-3 AM, you 100% always get cheatersnew players are less likely to be cheaters is all I'm saying, not what you're fucking implying
>Peruvian Mina on enemy team with 1000+ hrs talking shit from 2 minutes in for no reason>proceed to stomp them within 25 minFew things are more cathartic than this.
>>537570727my future ex wife
>>537575198They literally increased the sprint speed by 0.5 in like 6 different patches
>>537575437and it's still not enough
>>537574370it is fucking BIZARRE how a vocal portion of the deadlock playerbase dont want attractive women
Who is an easy to learn close range character? I feel like I mostly play long/midrange characters.
>>537575748ibram
>>537575748abrams, mo, billy
This isn't working right
>>537575862If it makes you feel better I'm 1/4 with Billy and in every single one of those games I had a K/D above 2 (in one of the losses I had a k/d of 4)
>>537575035i say this and now i am having back to back dc's. wesome!
>>537571465kek'd hard
the darked out voting corner looks so sad nowI hope we can rearrange furniture and make it look niceput up some nice occult imagery or blood ritual sacrifice tables
>>537575862it's ok i'm 1/7 with mina but i'll keep playing her
>enemy team has drifter, victor, haze, infernus, billy>mf on our team is still playing BEBOP in the year 2025>it’s pisslow so the game gets to 50 minutes, and doorcuck and lash become useless>promptly lose the gameThe only reason I don’t sperg at people picking shit or support heroes in cumlow is because sometimes they are on the enemy team letting me rape them for free
>>537562584>>537564748Mina is for BWC only.
>>537576091Dude ultied and started grabbing his cheetos.
>>537574370has vindicta ever looked like that? with her hair down. is there a model?i want them to update her dress, gun and give her her ass back
>>537576015I'm not doing bad but I don't feel I can impact games at all
what's a good hero to pick if I can't aim for shit?
(Insert generic question that will get replies)
realizing i posted this to the dead thread
>>537577202Sex
Is there some unspoken rule among DOTAfags to just never listen to pings or take sensible fights ever? This game was perfectly winnable but retards just kept doing whatever they wanted instead of grouping so we lost
Mina Ha would fuck corpses, moles, goo, alcoholic detectives, all of Paige's knights and their horses bareback rather than give p*cket one displeased handjob.
>>537568357>>>537528213
mina gooners really gaslighting the entire playerbase that beop ult but it silences on a 60s cooldown is a bottom tier character
PSA: if you don't know how to play Pocket you shouldn't play him
I'm thinking about how Valve can top these six heroes:>PriestCrowdpleaser. No one hates shotgun priests. And will be the designated "aurafarmer" of the new roster.>BohoPaige-tier. Depends on how exotic her accent is and if she's an Esmerelda-tier gypsy.>SwanPOTENTIAL Mina-tier. If they make her some platinum blonde blue eyed Russian ballet dancer then we've got a hit. Especially if her kit rewards movement.>SkyrunnerPossibly Doorman-tier if they stick with the Spidermab moveset. Don't know if his personality and construction worker gimmick will be as charismatic.>SlorkMeme hero.Don't know about the others.
>>537577948the next update will prove they just got lucky and have shit tier characters
>>5375781126 out of 6 is not luck desu
state mandated loss
>>537578178it is if you remember the previous wave existed and included shit like Calico and Sinclair
>>537577948Poltergeist is going to have a gravity gun and prop kill with it. Trust the plan.
>eventually get seasoned skins>Vindicta will either wear a nice elegant dress that encapsulates her traditionalist ways or a g string bikini
>>537569223I hope we get Cadence/SuccubusGod I want her so bad
>>537577806>60 seconds It's two minutes and some change until level 2. After that I think it goes down to one minute flat.
>>537578337I forgive the previous four because Sinclair and Vyper were forced by HotpooAlso Sinclair's divorce gimmick is fucking hilariousBut yes I do agree Calico is indefensible
>>537576091>You see this shit Maurice?
HOLY SHIT vyper is so fucking badly designed. this hero is a fucking creep compared to any of the new six heroes and even most older ones.t. haven't played in about a year until now
>>537578178Technically it's 7 out of 7 because everyone already loves Priest.
>>537574493>ugly hairlies, its beautiful
>>537574493She's never had a chin?
>>537578443>umm actually you have to moderately invest in her best move to make it bullshit instead of wasting those points on moves that suckok
>>537577948What will a ballerina do for damage
>>537579115spin :)
>>537579115Parry happy princess.
>>537579115shoot gun
>>537579115iirc swans gimmick seemed to be that the more dashes and jumps and movement tech you do the stronger her damage getsand she can triple jumpbaaically vyper but for everything else besides slidingseems like another hotpoo design
>>537578625I like Vipers green skin but this haircut would be cool on her
>Rush in>Press 1 >Take away 10% of their HP >Hope I don't die trying to press 2 >Pepper the enemy team with vampiric peas >Repeat >>537578748>Moves that suck >6% max HP + Heal + 50 flat damage 1>15 second dash + Ammo refill & Fire rate + Distance >Stamina drain & Slow + Flat damage + Movement speed Are you perhaps retarded? The ult is basically useless until level 2, which lowers the CD from 2 minutes and 10 seconds to 1 minute and 30 seconds and the only way to make it make damage is to get it to level 3.
how come people keep repeating mina is good but refusing to show their ranks
>>537570494>>537571465Greatest feel in the game
>>537579498Fo:NV haircut right there>>537579115https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcSxdTALmb4
>>537579914Would have been so kino if Priest kicked down the door as a surprise update.
>>537579914is he pouring coffee into her wine glass?
>>537580024she has good taste?
>>537579914out of all these guys the most evil is doorman
>>537580024She's not old enough
>>537580159>Koreans having good tastelmao
>>537580024she doesn't drink out of anything else
>>537580183nah its definitely drifter doorman can be evil and torturous but he has an off switch, drifter seems to live solely for the hunt and revels in it
>>537580319doorman actually enjoys hurting others drifter is just basically an animal
>>537580447i think it's pretty obvious from all of his voicelines that drifter really enjoys ripping people apart
>>537580447An animal hunts to sate its literal hunger, Drifter just likes killing people and violently
>>537579914who invited the hobo (billy)
>>537579914Cute art
>Deadlock will have a collab with HL 3 with Doorman wearing a variant skin that looks like G Mans as a teaser for threes official announcement and/or an update will have Doorman say a line alluding to said game
>>537580447He doesn't enjoy "hurting" as much as he does mentally tormenting, and Drifter definitely loves killing
>>537580575i'm leaning more towards alyx being dropped into deadlocks world while gordon and eli try and find her in the multiverse
>>537580575deadlock will get canned way before hl3 release
>>537580743gravity gun shenanigans could be cool
>>537580575Doorman will have a blink and you miss it appearance in HL3.
we need another titty hero lady geist isn't enough
>>537580575
>uninstalled deadlock 3 hours ago out of rage due to the shit matchmaking>installed it again just nowgod fucking damn it valve got me
>>537579914our new protagonists, forget about geist ans ivy
I hate every single moba except deadlock. Movement is cool and shooting is fun
come up with an idea for a third and final vampire
Echo shard Billy is funni
>>537580801i was brainstorming some abilities for alyx with her gravity gloves like she would be shooting that green energy crud from her hands for her weapon, her 1 could be a charged up shot of the stuff, and you right click to drag boxes and statues towards you
>>537581210why do you just repost things from reddit
>everyone whining and fixated on Victor>meanwhile Drifter mains...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73RNsKnWpcg
>>537579638She's alright, but she gets overshadowed by practically the entire cast.And a lot of people play her like complete pussies due to her low HP.
>>537581353really fucking ugly nosferatu guy that's actually a rather nice fella and is ivy's friend
>>537581353https://youtu.be/0lkdY2zM_Eo
>>537581478>nosferatu guyThis shit means nothing to me man.
>>537581672that's on you really
They should add another hero that hunts monsters
>>537568859Most of that shit is made up, we have no idea if Riot are making a Deadlock knockoff or not.That said, what is true is that League and Valorant devs were 100% in the alpha back a year ago playing together and fiending the game. Whether anything comes of that remains to be seen.
>>537581672never seen spongebob or played vampire the masquerade or seen that new movie or that old movie or that even older movie?
>>537581672kids these day's ain't on dah 'bob?sad, very sad...
>>537581798I'll kill you, you stupid piece of shit.
>>537574370I just don't get why they made her so fucking blue. Dead people are gray, overw*tch already did a blue sniper lady too
>>537581903>warden secretly has a son that joins the fighthow kino would it be
I am an alch iv/v CHAD and you cannot step to meI am EMPLOYED and MARRIED with CHILDRENwhile maintaining my PEAK RANK
>>537580575>ults pocket>"fairfax, black mesa, aperture science... some things never change"
>>537577551>>537568357Also to clarify the build order>Extra Charge-- ideally control a corner of lane with turrets and melting whoever comes near you, the ideal spot to control depends on what kind of lane enemies you have>Restorative Shot, Extended Magazine, Close Range, Rapid Rounds, Active Reload, Bullet Lifesteal-- in that exact order>Intensifying Magazine>Titanic Magazine>You are now in mid game and should just focus on farming, split pushing safely and cleaning up easy-looking fights cause your damage kinda dips in mid-game until you hit Ricochet + Lucky Shot>Ricochet>Lucky Shots>Split Shot>Fleetfoot>Slowing Bullets>Burst Fire>Transcendent Cooldown>Superior Duration>Vampiric Burst>Situational 12th itemSell whatever does not build into a core item later on to make space for another item if you have to. Once you hit Ricochet and Lucky Shot you're officially cooking with gas and able to actually contribute to fights.
>Ivy you're a good person so I feel no need to torment you>By the way someone in your family is going to inevitably dieWhat's his problem?
>>537581353Make him a kingpin.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvwKxIxRUogMaybe even give him a true Brooklyn accent.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG4rh77LJck
>>537581903A guy like the hunter from Jumanji would be nice
>>537582396What actually is his problem? Is there any supplemental lore stuff? All I know about the characters is what I hear in the game, why is Doorman like that
>>537582604Because he's mean, are you retarded?
>>537582396His voice is too suave, he should be more creepy and inhuman like
>>537579382Honestly Swan actually seems like a good Hotpo design. Jumping and wallhopping and shit like that comes naturally. Having to force yourself to slide like Vyper constantly just feels annoying.
>>537582396he is just being honest
>>537582604gmans younger brother/nephew or some shit and his attitude rubbed off on him
This Yamato blasted our asses, outclassed in skill at both the top of our team and the bottom
>>537582854I've never seen a Yamato do good
>>537580447>>537580319Gray Talon and Drifter convo>"Was it you?">"Wesley, you know if I killed your grandkids I would have tied you up and made you watch"Yeah he's not just an animal he's absolutely fucking evil.
>>537579525>silencing someone with homing aoe bats from the sky is every minute is only good if it does damageare YOU retarded? buy a cooldown reduction and you have better/cheaper curse
im still waiting for the muscle women character and/or the arbitrary bbw
any wave manipulation worth using at all? freezing is worthless in lane and slow pushing a sidelane doesn't seem that effective
>>537581353A shady pharmacist who married a vampire and let her turn him into one so he could live with her forever. Now his wife is missing and he wants the Patrons to bring her back to him1st Ability - Toxin SyringeClose range ability, deals damage over time and a fading slow2nd Ability - CataractsMake your enemy's gun fire all over the place (random spread) and lower their fire rate3rd Ability - ImmunodeficiencyStacking passive that upon proccing reduces enemy healing by 20% (scales with spirit)Ultimate - Herd ImmunityApply an injection on either a teammate or an enemy to apply massive AOE health regen or bleed
>>537582676He does have moments where his voice goes nigmode, honestly him keeping up the suave persona for the other 90% of the time makes him more enjoyableThe whole point of his look is to be welcoming not creepy
>>537582604he's a lesser patron or some other kind of deity that became a human to fuck with people
>>537583495None. Boosh boosh boosh.
what do these levels mean?
>retard builds gun mina>inevitably lose because our team lacks damage>just one other competent player and we would've been able to carry>bad players all around>but decide to mention to this one that mina isn't a gun character as patron is killed because she's buying the wrong items while being dogshit>opens mic: uhhmmm yeah she is>post-game screen comes up>mina has lowest hero damage at the end of the gamestate mandated losses.this retard was trying to channel ult in fights too, without any spirit.
>>537584119it means they played those characters many times
>>537584119boons = level.
>>537562503I'd do it for free, if I get to draw loli Mina or BBW Paige. Also fellas give me something to work with.https://files.catbox.moe/ckkkk5.png
how does shiv make his hair with only one arm?
>>537563251>the matches I play are always with people of a higher rankingYeah no shit anon Initiate is literally the bottom 3% of players.
does anybody have a good video settings guide? i.e. dx11 or vulkan, the fps performance of the settings, etc. and is stretch native resolution? i don't want to use upscaling
Is there a list of what every character's wish for the Patron is?
12-3 on Mina today, getting the hang of her
>>537582854Was his name "E"?
ok but is it really necessary to summon an extra planar deity to revive your friend's bar business?
>>537584437directx is windows proprietary, vulkan is open source so it's good with linux and amd.set the upscaling to 0 if you don't want to use it then. but you sound like the kind of retard that confuses upscaling with frame hallucination.
>>537583183Max CD at max level is still 60 seconds flat, I'm sorry you got fucked by a Mina but that doesn't make her a good character, just a better player than you.Oh and btw just dash to fuck with the bat tracking the moment you see her jump and hide with the terrain, you'll survive her ult no matter what.
I get why it's not their focus right now but the quality of matchmaking at pisslow is unbearably awfulIt's just completely one-sided stomps one way or the other
>>537584647native res is the best choice, faggot
Why is this horrible Victor build the most popular? It sucks DICK
Current Favs:>Pocket>Holliday>Haze>Yamato>Viper
>>537584437upscaling is literally good. framegen is bad. just upscale.
Should players who get a 0 in objective damage be forced to do (or redo) the tutorials before they can queue again?Even if this causes them to uninstall rather than do the tutorial, the quality of matches would go up by virtue of them not being there.
>>537584742listen, you're the dumb faggot that can't understand what the settings mean.don't @ me again in your life.
"Chapter's End" is such an uninspired name for Paige's weapon. She really just seems like half-assed coomer bait
why dont minas build thunder scroll?
>>537585049>6400 do nothing
>>537584965Meanwhile Kelvin's gun is named "Expedition's End"
>>537584907>@holy twittertroon
>>537584775Early game is whatever but the mid/late game is what everyone is using with him. Infuser + EE + scourge (fuck healing tempo) makes him busted
>>537584965post a suggestion for a better weapon name on the feedback forum. right now.
>>537573824It mostly use to be items like, Fleetfoot, Heroic Aura, Boundless Spirit/Radiant Regen, Healing Tempo, Spell Slinger and even Fortitude before it lost the bonus damage. Back before Spell Slinger also got nerfed, I would max out Flask and I'd essentially be able to permanently run around the entire map at mach speed carrying a rapid fire 50 cal machine gun
>play in a rare 6 stack>clutch 2 games that looked like sure losses
>>537585159call it "nigger book"
>>537585049Maybe as a giga late-game item, it's pretty expensive for what it does
>>537584775if you want to build spirit, that's the right build.problem is spirit is just not very good. like oh no, he's walking at me, if only I could hold S while pressing shift to roll away from him!works in pisslow though.
>Got my ass beaten so hard when I was a new player that I got sent to the lowest rank possible>Now that I know how to play I'm constantly getting 10+ kill games I'm not learning shit and I ain't climbing out of here any time soon. This sucks
>>537584723>Max CD at max level is still 60 seconds flat,no it isn't. doing this shit even every 60 seconds is still insane because while they're silenced your team can just kill them, its mo/krill ult from the sky.i'm getting flashbacks to when I was pointing out the permafly vindicta who just shoots you from outside your range build a year ago weeks before everyone started bitching about it until it got nerfed
>>537585151Those three are fine, im talking about all the worthless items like rapid recharge, healing tempo, greater expansion, surge of power and the early cooldown.Surge could be good but the rest are useless. Cooldown is only good once it affects his 1.
>>537585280Nintendo, hire this woman(man).
>>537585381>its mo/krill ult from the skypfft
>>537580575Eh, cringe
>>537584907>@
>>537585431Rapid recharge is amazing on him especially once you get t3 on his jumpstart since you can spam it a dozen times in a team fight Agree with the rest though, maybe greater expansion could be placed as a late game luxury
Is there a way to get Statlocker to update match data more quickly? It'll show the matches but when trying to inspect them, it fails to load until like 6 hours later by which point you've forgotten what the match was about
>>537584907>lil bro thinks hes on twitter
>>537585705probably if you donate. in game stats give a lot of info you can probably parse it better than the website.
>>537582316any particular reason for active reload over quick silver?
>>537585871qsr/mm is for spirit stacking builds now. same reason haze stopped building it.
>>537585649All you need is Extra Charge, Rapid Recharge doesnt do nearly enough to justify the cost.
WHY CAN’T I FIND A GAME TONIGHT I’VE BEEN WAITING 3 MINUTES
>>537585649Idk it seems like a big expense for a bit of extra regen, another charge, and -1.5s between casts, unless you really need the extra speed to cleanse more debuffs applied in the short gap between casts.
>>537582604He's an elder god who actually got bored of tormenting mortals, and decided to try serving them for a change to see if it was funHe actually did find it fun and now runs the Baroness Hotel full-time, taking great pride in the fact that it's the most haunted hotel in America (or at least the most haunted in the tri-state area, as he grumbles about to Grey Talon). In his conversations with some other heroes, he claims observing humanity is richly rewarding for him
i fucking hate the matchmaking i hate itevery game i think i do pretty decently but i'm just not good enough to carryit's a coinflip as to who has less new players on their team
>>537586949Deal with it, you can't and are not meant to be able to carry every gameJust play, focus on the only constant, and get more consistently better to pump up the number of games you CAN carry
>mina kills ivy>noone likes you ivy, they're just pretendingbased. ivytrannies in shambles.
Anyone know a good dynamo build for being mobile and helping in team fights with low ability CD?
>>537584286i will pay you to draw loli mina in provocative outfits teasing adults
>>537587393go to the search tab, type in cooldown, buy those items.then type in speed, buy the ones that boost your move speed.
>>537587393the speed-e dynamo build
>>537561286This game is the worst combination of genres I've ever seen in a video game. It's like someone tried to make the worst piece of shit possible.ASSFAGGOTS were already the worst genre but someone was like, no, we can make an even shittier game, and then decided to shoehorn all of the garbage of an ASSFAGGOTS into a shooter too, which is even more out of place.Tanks and healers do not belong in competitive games. Leveling up and items do not belong in competitive games. PvE does not belong in competitive games. Farming does not belong in competitive games. ALL of these things, DO NOT BELONG IN A SHOOTER.It's beyond fucking obnoxious as it is to have DUMBFUCK team mates feed the shit out of other people and the other team gets to snowball because of it turn into unkillable gods and make you waste 30+ minutes of your life. It's even better when you have faggot roles like tanking and healing so you can be playing a character that actually requires aiming and hit your headshots but they do NO FUCKING DAMAGE because tanking and healing and fucking snowballing.I'm so fucking mad that the developers for this game are the dumbest fucking people alive. This game has such a cool roster of characters and I love the theme and style. The music fucking slaps too. Yet it's a fucking ASSFAGGOTS fucking hero shooter. FUCK. FUUUUUCK.This game like, vibe wise, is almost like a spiritual successor to Darkstalkers/Vampire Savior and they had to go and make it the biggest piece of shit ever. Like, EVERYTHING about this game EXCEPT for the game part is fucking AWESOME. The game part though? STEAMING DIARRHEA DOGSHIT. FUCK.
>>537587608Hit me up on steam at /acagebeyond/
>>537587765filtered
>>537587765>tranny image>tranny post (assfaggots)opinion discarded.
>>537587832Yeah, I'm not enough of a fucking retard to gobble up slop like this, you're right
>>537587765Unironically true, nobody would play this shit if it looked like Neon Prime.
>>537581353Hopping one
As good as this game may be, it lacks a dedicated onahole pet support, therefore it will never be as good as League.
does spirit rend and spiritual overflow work well on holiday?
>>537583320mcginnis is the fattest you'll get
>>537563451ToT too sexy...
>"victor are you okay there?">"Affirmative"
all my friends are dogshit at this game...
>>537566979>>537567634keep speaking in nuggets of truth, I'm enjoying it
>>537588105Calico is such wasted potentialimagine if Aya was even half as cute as Yuumi
quality matchmaking at it again
>>537584305bump
>>537588564>NoobI don't know what you expected.
>>537588483>lets all run in and try to melee the close range AOE character with 200000% lifesteal
>>537588564>0 objective damage minathe classic
>>537588483he tanks rhat
>>537588710if he's not overfarmed he's really not that bad
>>537588564Other team is full of broken characters. All the new characters except Mina are busted as fuck.
>>537581353Well, you've got the outsider, the newbie, I guess you'd want someone high up in the vampire chain, and probably one not from the US - so the boring answer would kind of fit, Vlad.
>>537588768the issue is victor is the best farmer in the game, he has a constant coldfront going at all times
>>537588768we weren't even THAT much ahead, I was really surprised to see him live thatI even dropped the urn because I thought he was feeding, but then I realized he actually tanks that
>>537588896>try to farm as victor by spamming smelly aura>you aren't farmed so you can't just instantly heal off and end up being so low you get gankedhe can't just fuck off from fights 1 second after lane ends like seven/haze/wraith/infernus
>>537587765the veins on her tits are weird
>>537588549>as cuteyou mean as sexy
>>537589043well, yeah
>went for a kill in the fountain>patron survived with 90 hp>game dragged out 15 more minutes and they wonoops......
>>537588549ava has to be a bald pussy because of the implication
>>537589152you always ignore everyone and just shoot at the patron when it's weakened
>>537589185oh right ava not aya whoops
do all non-cc abilities affect objectives?geist shards for example
victor and drifter are just healbane checks. if you don't have at least 2-3 people going healbane (smelee) or toxic bullets, they're just throwing
>>537589510yes
>laning with MirageI thought they removed solo lane?
Were there any leaks about when the sex update is coming out?
>>537589917they should change scarabs into a bomb and change calico 1 into a bigger bomb too
>team struggling with killing victor>jump in and just rake him to deathfine, I'll help...
>>537585871Cause Active Reload gives extra lifesteal and doesn't require an ability usage to activate it. You can dump a mag, reload mid-fight (if you absolutely have to take part in a teamfight instead of rice farming like an Anti-Mage until you hit the Ricochet + Lucky Shot powerspike), end it early by hitting the green part of the circle and immediately start dumping rounds again with extra fire rate + lifesteal, it's very helpful as you work your way up to Vampiric Burst cause it also cuts down on McGinnis' long as fuck reloads. By the time you sell it you'll have so much ammo and damage the longer reloads won't be a problem cause by the time you reload you've either killed 1-2 people or seriously maimed 4-6 of them to the point they don't want to push you during the reload. But yeah what this guy said; >>537586023 is an apt, shorter version of my explanation too. God I love this build.
>>537589917>it's a mirage baits you and calls you a feeder while going 2-1 episode
>>537590008playtesters didn't like sex so yoshi replaced it with new rejuv
>>537590097>>537585871Oh right, and if you're an aimGOD (unlike me) you can drop Split Shot if you really want to for something else. But I'm a pleb and need the crutch so--
Alright, testing gun Victor out. This was the base setup, I leveled up victor to 12k and I tested several of the damage based T3 weapon items. My test was activating aura and shooting at the dummy and mag dumping twice, active reloading for the 2nd mag.Berserker starting at 0 stacks, Hunter's Aura (vs 1 target), and Escalating Resilience all had nearly the same DPS and total damage. Toxic Bullets had the highest DPS, technically, but that's vs a 3k health dummy so I didn't really count it, it's closer or just below the 3 above. Hollow Point and Point Blank actually ended up with the highest DPS without any special conditions which was a bit surprising, considering Victor wants to soak up damage I think point blank is better especially since with PB + first upgrade of aura you'll be slowing them down a ton to keep them there. However, if we compare we look at the dps of berserker already at max stacks it actually does the most DPS out of all of my testing. You might think getting to max berserker stats would be hard for Victor but you have to remember that it's just not aura that deals damage to vic but jumpstart does too. In this specific 12k soul setup, one jumpstart immediately gets you to two stacks and after reaching max stacks you can utilize jumpstart to keep your berserker stacks up when it's about to expire, aura can do so too but requires more timing and obviously health sacrifice. This really creates a unique playstyle for vic I think, it reminds me of Shivs old rage, the skill required to try and keep it up permanently. I was skeptical of berserker at first but this DPS check really put it into perspective just how good it can be on him.
what's the general consensus on the rejuv change
>>537590097>>537585871>>537590523Actually no, disregard that, I'm retarded. You want Split Shot regardless cause it + Ricochet + Lucky Shot does an amazing job of halting a base siege-- you activate Split Shot, open fire on anything in front of you and randomly insta-melt the wave AND do like 20-25% damage to the entire enemy team with a single mag, it's honestly very funny. And in teamfights you will often be hitting a bunch of people clumped up together in my experience so you just naturally end up melting down entire teams with it. Like Split Shot apart from making your aim super forgiving it also is the key of the build cause it just spreads so much damage around such a wide area on McGinnis with her insane mag size and insane rate of fire.
>>537590795i don't even know how it works desu
>>537590795I think it needs to be bumped down by 1 since 3 lives is really strong, let alone 4. I feel like it's balanced right now around one or two of your retard teammates wasting a life.
Encounter a warden? Just hit the bricks!
Goat sex with Billy.Goat babies with Billy.
>>537590735you require fury trance, turn your aura on before you pop it and chase people down with the 40% spirit resist it gives while activehollow point is a stupid idea since your abilities cost HP
>Finally get a good team after a few miserable losses>Our Magician dcs and our Haze gets stuck in a wall This game is dogshit
the map lighting/aesthetic changes compared to a few months ago are really nicethe old one really looks like a WIP in comparison, even though it didn't feel like one back then
>>537590795I don't like the idea of multiple people getting the buff, I think something different should be done. Make the boss weaker so as soon as it spawns it triggers everyone to gather for a fight around it. Have only one person be able to take the buff and the buff be something 20% gun/spirit, 20% larger player model + a revive?It should overall just be weaker, multiple people being able to have it is dumb.
>>537591513You really want games to last forever huh
>>537591349>you require fury tranceWhat do you think bullet lifesteal builds into>hollow point is a stupid idea since your abilities cost HPI was testing everything just to compare
>>537591513opposite needs to happen, buff stays the same to end games faster, but boss needs to be more than a laser pointer that sticks to one targetsomething like the roshan bashes and stomps in dota
>>537591427If your Haze was good she'd know about the unstuck button & command.
>playing with shitter friend>he picks kelvin>"my beam isn't doing damage">tell him to use grenade when billy charges him, free heal and damage on billy>he proceeds to buy zero healing items >casually remind him that "well, kelvin has natural heals, maybe play a bit back and use your grenade to punish aggression">mystic vulnerability
I cant tell if Victor is actually overpowered or just a pubstomper
I wish ranks are not busted...I hate being in the lowest ranks with people that have no idea how the game works at all.>Someone is delivering urn, and the team doesn't react to it>Nobody kill midboss, the whole game>Doesn't push unless the whole enemy team is wiped>Doesn't get the stash of boxes & gold statues at the basement of mid path>Doesn't even get any box / gold statue when they pass by while doing jungles
>>537591989vvvvvv
>>537581353an empathic good byronic tragic hero vampire that only hurts or kills criminals, protects people and has to hide from most vampires. He wants to cure his vampirism so as to be able to have a normal life like a normal person and stop worrying about possibly hurting people around him by merely existing. There's already 3 evil vampires if you count Geist, so I want valve to tackle the other side of the spectrum.Also, Geist is already focused on sustain, Mina is a ranged glass cannon burster and Cringeter is a ganker with some sustain. So I think this character could be a high mobility glass cannon ganker, like the hunter from L4D
>>537592195shiv is a vampire who wants to cure his vampirismthat's why he was friends with drifter
>>537592103pubstomper, nobody buys silence and wonders why their spells don't work on him. Focus lens+farmedM1 character shreds his two lives
>>537592195>Good vampireShow us your reflection in the mirror
>>537592195this is just pocket who drinks blood instead of semen
healing is way too good in this game. If you get matched against like 4 people that can heal themselves or their team you lose unless you also have the same thing
>>537592695I'm not questioning that last part, but Pocket has empathy?
Can someone explain to me when drifter supposedly becomes impossible to fight? Admittedly not high in rank (archon) but he seems pretty shit unless you are like mina in a closed room. He seems to be in every game of mine but maybe 1 out of 30 games he's been very middling.
>>537592586
Werewolf sex with Drifter.Werewolf babies with Drifter.
Geist 3 is literally the most useless fucking ability The slow is literally not even perceivable even after stacking it 3x
>>537581353>a third and final vampireWe have a Strigoi and a Lahmian so we're still missing a Necrarch and von Carstein.
>>537586825It's a great item to enhance it. You're not thinking of everything with your post. For example the ability is a great speed boost, but only lasts 4 seconds. Cleansing in a team fight is a big thing for Victor, because people will try to CC you to death first almost always. It also adds 20 spirit to the ability which is more healing. If you have healing booster, it's even further healing. You need all the healing you can get. If you use the ability to heal you never cast 2 in a row, because it just refreshes the healing duration of 4 seconds. There I spoonfed you.
>>537593810>stacking damage amp on hero with life drain>uselesshellooo alchemist
>>537581353Aristocratic vampire with dementia who doesn't know he's a vampire except for moments of clarity that fill himself with horror. He assumes everyone is his dead wife and goes for a lover's embrace aka he sucks your blood out and KILLS YOU. Each hero he will make a comment on like how she's gained weight(dynamo). In his lucid state he's aware his wife is dead and he's trying to revive her with the ritual but otherwise he actually doesn't know what he's fighting for just that he feels like he should.His kit could be something cancer like swapping allegiances momentarily by spreading his confusion or making your minimap hazy and unreadable
Has anyone written a retard-friendly "what items to consider buying against specific opponents and when" guide? I've been flowcharting my builds and I know that's my biggest problem with improving, but there are so many characters and items in this game that I can't keep it in my head and I spend like 5 minutes trying to remember that you need to buy Slowing Hex against Grey Talon etc.
>>537581353
>>537593138No, it's cleanses that are way too good because then your anti-heal can't apply to them
>>537593469I had some insanse Drifter rampages over the last few days and it reminds me of when gun yamato was really broken. A year ago maybe? People sort of expect you to melee or play it likea melee character, but its just about getting up close and bursting them down with M1 really
isn't Suppressor just really fucking good for spirit damagers
>>537589027*Hot
>>537594598sure but it upgrades into nothing and provides no stats
>>537594598I always buy it on Victor.
PLEASE ONE GAME WITHOUT DOORKEK, PAIGE, AND MINA ON MY TEAM PLEASEthese heroes are hot ASS in pisslow, I can’t with these shitters
Would this Billie have been better than the one we got?Unironically this is one of the few times I actually think no and it would be redundant. Billy's character is funny as he is because he's an ineffective angry retard, and we already have a female one of those on the roster in Vyper
>>537595171how can you be bad at paige just shield and horse
>>537594025and how does that help me when my entire fucking team is dead and it's just me left?
>>537594010To clarify, I never meant to imply that RR is not something you should buy ever, only that I see a lot of guides prioritise it ahead of other more useful T3s and T4s, when really all you need is Extra Charge for most of the match.>the ability is a great speed boost, but only lasts 4 secondsThat's longer than the 3s per-cast CD, you already have 100% uptime if you want, there's no need to spend 2400 souls to enhance an aspect that can already have 100% uptime.>Cleansing in a team fight is a big thing for Victor, because people will try to CC you to death first almost alwaysI mentioned cleansing in my post, I said "unless you really need the extra speed to cleanse more debuffs applied in the short gap between casts".>It also adds 20 spirit to the ability which is more healingThis is not a good reason to prioritise RR over other Spirit items, they all give spirit and thus regen and synergize with Healing Booster, the gap between RR and any other T3 isn't particularly big.>If you use the ability to heal you never cast 2 in a row, because it just refreshes the healing duration of 4 seconds.Then why are we possibly considering prioritising 2400 souls on an item to reduce the charge-CD to 1.5s when it doesn't benefit this aspect either.>There I spoonfed you.You've done nothing but spew flimsy bullshit that does nothing to convince me that RR should be bought ahead of any other items.Hang yourself you reddit-spacing fucking retard.Kill yourself IRL. No one will miss you. You have nothing to contribute here on a fucking video game forum, or anywhere else.End it.
how do i build mina? i'm a faggot from league so i'm used to there being 6 easy to figure out items to go for...
>>537581353Literally just Remilia. Mina Vampirebrat, but an actual Evropean aristocrat instead of a gold-digging gook whore.
>>537595468???These paige playerd are just walking creeps in my game giving the team little valueIn pisslow, whatever team gets drifter + few other hard carries (e.g. seven, haze, infernus, warden, victor) just instantly wins
>>537595397No, females can't be punk and his brand of annoying contrarian just doesn't work as a female
>kill Mina with a paradox bomb alch fire combo>he starts complaining about how the lobby is too sweaty
>>537595171Mina is way better in pisslow though because most people can't aim good enough to kill her fast and people don't take cover so she gets lovebites real easy.
>>537595554look up eido's build
I finally had a Mina game go well for once. She's very dependent on having a competent frontliner on the team
>>537590795Revert back to team wide.
>>537595748>mina>dying to paradox bomb instead of just batting out of it
>>537595823>She's very dependent on having a competent frontliner on the teamyeah definitely, but boy am I feasting when I doshe's the ultimate clean-up crew
>>537595554IDK, but I would love for their to be a hero like the pic you posted.
>>537595796oki i will>>537596065that's how i look when i boot up deadlock
>>537595823That's how I've been playing her and with great success.>If there's nobody in front of me, never go out>If the enemy is not distracted, never fight them>Focus on escape and keeping myself safe, teammates be damnedI feel like a vulture waiting to bait my team so I can get some clean kills and escape unharmed.But it also feels in-character because why would mina do the dirty work when there's pawns & grunts there to do it for her?She will just come in late and swipe the benefits up all for herself.
>rolesOH NO NO NO NO DEADTARDS???
>>537592154you'd tell him to never play the game again if he was really your friend
>>537596232its hero type thoughbeit
>>537596232>Mina is a Marksmanwhat did they mean by this
>>537596221she essentially old QOP, you only go in to smack people and get all you health back / execute them, and then you dip out.
>>537596232problem? there should be filter options when the roster gets large, which it's starting to get large.you may notice there's a lack of supportsissy there.
>>537596232>Venator is a marksmanWhat tbe fuck????
>>537587261kek. Valve knows the community too well.
>>537596232Dota has this and it's mostly for new players. Pugna is a nuker/carry but 90% of the time hes a healer/support IRL
>>537596360well technically if you aimbot with mina you could probably instacarry even eternus games?
>>537596853that goes for any hero. in fact every other hero would do better, since mina's gun is terrible
>>537595783no she is shit and always goes 2/11stop trying to up-play her, literally look at her win rate
>>537595535>This is not a good reason to prioritise RR over other Spirit items, they all give spirit and thus regen and synergize with Healing Booster, the gap between RR and any other T3 isn't particularly big.It's an item you should always get as early as possible because it allows you to jump from one neutral camp to another without being gimped. You're also saying "compared to other T3" well you are already buying the T1 and the upgrade costs 2400, while a whole new T3 costs 3200 which is not comparable. There's also item slots to consider. You can't get better value for 2400 from the upgrade unless you buy 2x T1 items instead. It's very situational. Adding 20 more spirit to a 1.8x scaling heal is very much worth it and adding an extra charge to boot means having 300-400 more health to a team fight. You're an absolute moron and you've made no arguments except say "there are better items" with no proof, no examples and no explanations. You get 0 points and you should stop playing Victor full stop.
>>537596232these types don't make any sense
>>537596493Based on the other heroes with that role that probably just means he's mainly meant for doing damage in teamfights
>>537596853There's plenty of aimbotters in oracle/phantom/ascendant that people laugh at since they do poorly. The ones I know play Infernus (gun oriented), Vindicta, and McGinnis (gun). The infernus guy is a spic and does pretty well but he gets banned regularly.
>>537596929yeah because the players themselves are also pisslow
>>537597259>Ackshully she's 60% winrate in eternus>stats prove she sucks there toooops
>>537565841look its you
>>537597557yeah because the enemies there are actually good
>>537597557lmao like what was that guy’s pointis this mina gooner retardation?>>537597259so why the fuck are you telling me I should be so gleeful to see that vampire brat load in on my team
>Enemy team way ahead>They're too retarded to close out the game and kill patron>We're too retarded to take advantage and push all lanes when we wipe themTh-thanks that was a fun 40 minutes
>>537597690>Bad when the enemies are shit>Bad when the enemies are goodso...she's badthanks for helping us figure that out
Mina needed buffs yesterday.
>>537597730>so why the fuck are you telling me I should be so gleeful to see that vampire brat load in on my teamPost-loss back alley brat correction
>>537577202surely you're not gonna draw the whole lineup righthaze is my favourite here, love the eyes
>>537598145I fucking hate Touhou and anyone who likes them is always a full blown autistical retard.
The game could be an 11/10, but it's a 6/10 at best now. None of the game's systems resonate with each other.
>>537598247id like to, even the boys
>>537598283Cool. Maybe reddit is more to your liking?
>>537582604I just assumed he is an actual doorman for the hotel who died while working there but is normally chained to continue serving itI finished reading the shining recently and he felt right out of that
>>537598145no, kill all gooners
i don't think they're buffing or nerfing anyone for a long while, the devs are radio silent
>>537598145>mid women :|>mid women kissing :)why am I like this
>>537598340I can do nothing but root you on!
>>537598569They nerfed victor and drifter on Friday
>win a 5v6>but it isn't counteddamn you yoshi
>>537598283Yes, why would a general about a competitive game in closed alpha be inclusive to "full blown autistical retards" as you say? Here's the answer: you're the first one who would be gotten rid off. That's why you call people autistic for liking Mina or Touhou, it's because you can't accept and love the autism in yourself.With doorman, Yukari fans won. And with Mina, EoSD fans won. No need to cope and seethe.
>>537598740so 90 days ago
>party queue>win matches, have fun>solo queue>12 loss streakWake me when they change matchmaking, or add unranked. I'm done.
>>537598831I don't understand 99% of this post and that is ok with me.
Please buff mina, it will make me unstoppable. I'm already doing so well with her.
>>537598887it's all unranked though? it's a closed alpha?
>>537570594I tried the launch command you fags gave me to have those sleek health bars but it didn't work
>>537598887Behold, unranked deadlock
This game is so fucking good. I hate that I'm so bad at it.
So were getting a proper balance patch thid week right
I like drifter cuz I can click on people without aiming
>>537598960Stay forever pisslow, tourist.
>>537599091>>537599168It's all ranked. Hiding it won't change that it is.
>>537599289become one with the broolers. mo&krill, billy, abrams
>>537599361Not if I don't care about it
>>537599361>all progress is erased when the game goes liveproblem?
>>537598584AGP
>>537599451billy requires some awareness to nit get blown up
QUIT MATCHMAKING ME TO BE THE SHITTER IN HIGHER RANKING GAMES!
>>537599641Let's swap places, I keep steamrolling new players but my rank is moving at a glacial pace
Do we think Priest will get added sooner because he was cut last minuteOr are we getting cucked and he get hekd off for three months
>>537599538Dismissive fallacy.>>537599582Point still stands.
>>537599361How is it any different than a regular game's MMR?It's all a perception thing when it's hidden
>>537596232>Ivy "Marksman"Its fucking over.Boring ass Gun Ivy for the rest of time.
>play greytalon>sit in the back and just spam my spirit arrows>chunk the enemy team>someone is running away>use my ult and kill themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI8W20JJJUM
>>537599757they'll probably take the extra time to tweak and polish himlike maybe he was "Mina" ready and they'll take the time to make him "Doorman" ready
>>537599757I wouldn't be surprised if we're getting cucked and they're gonna save him for the next batch so they can have a headstart.
>>537570594>retards keep being in aura/melee range
>>537570594how do you change the hp bars to look like that
>>537599757>he was cut last minuteHow do you know? You in DL experimental?
>>537595979what are your thoughts on this beautiful webm?
>>537596232>Ivy marksman>Ivy is now a suboptimal haze/wraith/vyper cosplayer according to devsicefraud living up to the name yet again
>try playing Billy>everyone just walks away from you and your long ass cooldowns I really like this hero but it feels like he needs to buy every single fucking thing (damage, tankiness, and CC) or else he cant get in.
WHEN ARE THE FUCKING PAIGE NERFS
>>537599729I wish. This shit keeps putting me in games with archons and phantoms when I'm no where close to those ranks. Even if I do hold my own in lane, I start getting deleted after because I don't know fully know the map or there are enemy's that got slightly fed in other lanes who target my ass when I try to do anything.
>>537599940It's a matter of incentive. Ranked incentivizes competition regardless of whether you care or don't care for rank. You will become competitive. Unranked mmr doesn't incentivize you. You're just there to have fun regardless of the outcome.
>>537600545>worst laner in the game>every part of her kit can be done by another character but better>her only way to stay competitive, mindless gun spam, will probably be nerfed next anywaysPain
>>537600391Leakers unanimously agreed that there was an issue with his kit that made valve hold him off
>>537600410i think it's missing half its frames
>>537600410that aim almost gave me aneurysm
paige's pubes
>>537570594Welcome back pre rework Dr. Mundo
>>537601026But that's the thing, it's the label of "ranked" (as well as the different labeled divisions) that what causes people to take it more seriouslyIf all of that information was hidden, people wouldn't care as much
How tf not showering or brushing your teeth is punk?! Entropy of the universe is making him filthy and he is conforming to it like a tool. Someone fucking hose that dumb goat.
>>537601257
>>537600045i mean seven is "mystic" even though a large chunk of the reason to play him is spectacular left click so
>>537601189replay mode is laggy af >>537601252I think the replay is fucked up because you can see me doing orange numbers on her there somehowImagine I had perfect tracking
would you a vyper?
>>537601562i'd scare her off by being an insufferable moralfag. too dangerous to get close to a murderous obsessive jersey naga
can someone tell icefrog to add source engines head/eye tracking thing to deadlock?that's one thing TF2 does so well, when you walk around and look at the other characters you feel like they're actually therelike no other online shooters does that, everyone is just staring into oblivion and it just feels so crapassuming that doesn't cost too many resources
>>537601507oh ok i thought it was just me who couldn't record replays smoothly. wanted to show my friend a play i did but my obs recording came out at like 20 fps
>>537601562I'm salivating about it ever since x-com2 release
>>537601339Sure. Had I not known about the toggle in the settings to show ranks I wouldn't stress as much. But I saw it, I've opened pandora's box, and it's not going back in. It lives rent free until otherwise.
>Icefrog: yes.. i will add Jakiro's Macropyre.. KotL's Illuminate... hell ill add a root and give them guardian shieldblue yoshi can't be stopped
>>537601927Based.I love combining dumb ass aoe spells in ability draft.
>>537601927Gimmie DoomNo changes, just Doom
>>537584286Where can I find your work?
>>537601648the eye/head-tracking and lip sync stuff is actually something that tf2 players often turn off with comfig so the game runs better. it's more a symptom of tf2 being a bloated mess, but the game trying to apply that dynamically to 32 people at once can be pretty costlymeanwhile l4d2 runs like a dream because it only does it for four characters and the zombies have a very simple version of it
>>537601648I imagine facial animations/whatnot will be added later.
>>537561286Deadlock is easy, just choose whatever character you like based on their gun and only buy weapon upgrades
>>537601648Interactions between characters and tons of voice lines are one of the Valves staples. Wouldn't be surprised if it's already in the game, just switched off, since it causes everyone heads to twist in weird angles or something.
What would you think of a character that could only melee but it couldn't be parried? As in their primary fire are just physical close quarters moves
How is Slork? Is he safe?
When are they gonna add a zeus ult in game?
>>537602206Majority of guns in DL are boring to shoot desu
Deathy says gun victor is the way
>>537602389Yeah, but gunning someone down as Dynamo will never not be funny
I finally understand how to play minaJust rat the entire time and use your ult on walkers
>>537602451You should ask deathy for life advice since you waste all your time watching him
>>537602451no.
>>537602490>How to play Mina1. stay with a teammate at all times and gang up on people2. run away if alone or if your teammate dies3. steal kills
>>537602272>main Slork in hero labs >perch invisible on the side of a building the entire match It was a simple life…
>>537602730>>537602730Slork survived the hero labs purge
how to play mina:don't.
>>537601506These labels are probably what they intend the characters to be in the future.Get ready for major gun nerfs for Seven.
LIVE Raven....
Just got my first penta as Paradox>pulse bomb (surge + spirit burn + expansion + slow + duration etc)>echo shard>pulse bomb>alchemical flask>vortexYou can’t make me play anything except bomb paradox
>>537603012What about bomb Geist?
>game is a valve game so it's full of retarded easterm europeans and third worlders who will play anything valve releases because it's free and can probably run on their laptops>but it's also new and modern and not dota 2 so many of the valve degenerates stay away from it>it's coming out in the era of streamers and subsequent metafaggotry so there's a bunch of retarded kids trying to make it big on twitch or tiktok playing it>but it's also a valve game so most younger zoomers are staying away from iti can't tell if this is the worst of both worlds or the best of both worlds
>>537600303>>537570594hello?
Wrecker status? I'm not the only one who wants to see his glorious return, right? His voice/background is too cool to waste.
>>537603078I’ve always sucked as self damage characters
haven't played the game since october of last year. is lady geist still good? she's all i played and that's all i care about
Why are Haze players so fucking obnoxious and retarded? The Doorman went 5 0 dominating green lane against Mina and Drifter while Haze fed Pocket 8 deaths, but he complains that Doorman is a shitter while he's not buying any green or purple items against Pocket. Do Haze players just suck at the game?
>>537603012Bomb para is fun tho sometimes I feel like I'm just vomiting all my actives on some guy but I miss the swap or something and he just walks awayThe game is to chaotic to line it all up properly sometimes, but it can do a lot of obj damage at least
If the game had the characters split into 2 factions, which would you choose? (Tried to make it even, “selfless” vs “selfish” reasons for competing)
I've been playing Seven at the thread's suggestion but I'm still bottoming on kills and souls. Is there anything outside this build I should be running? The build beefs up his M1 with Power Surge, I haven't been using his ult much and haven't seen much results when I do use it because I'm not rushing Unstoppable or whatever else you buy for ult builds
>>537603574anyone picking amber here is either a faggot or a tranny
>>537603574Wow Amber is the worse one
>>537603389His OG ult was so much fun
>>537590795I can see why they changed it to be more team work oriented, but god damn it, I've had multiple games where we lose because my teammates keep throwing their 2nd lives trying to 1 v 6 the enemy. Good change, just requires teamwork which isn't present in pubs.
>>537603574Amber, luv Shiv and Viscous.
>>537597209>The infernus guy is a spic and does pretty well but he gets banned regularly.and he keeps coming back with a new account?
is it just me or are mina's animations really dogshit? don't get me wrong i love the design and model, but she feels a lot less fluid than others
>>537603731yeah too bad it was super counter intuitive, trapper being scrapped actually hurts my soul
Vyper & Sinclair need a hard rework, Shiv & Haze need a soft rework
>>537603574amber is the side that wins most games right?
i can't hit the crow
>>537603290If game's own nature preventing it from gaining noticeable popularity that is ultimately a bad thing. Influx of newfags should at least keep up with oldfags taking breaks. 1v1 games like fighters can sustain themselves on low population, 5v5 can't. Also there is enough saturation in competitive team games already, new ones need to try extra hard to find unique niche. High production, polish or dev name doesn't helps only so much these days.
Mina x PaigeWho's the one with a futa dick?
>>537604405 Mina https://files.catbox.moe/y9489v.png
>>537604405Yes
>Some of the Deadlock Reddit thinks Pocket is nonbinary>Despite seeing tons of comments calling him a he, I see comments calling him they
>>537603574Sapphire easily
>>537604365>Also there is enough saturation in competitive team games alreadyI think there's actually no big hypercompetitive "hero shooter" in the market yet.And I don't mean stuff like Valorant which is literally just Counter Strike. OW and Rivals are too casual. Deadlock could easily swoop in and cover that niche. It only needs casual game modes to solve the other side of the coin
>have a really fun game>both teams are trading punches>next few games I get mouth breathers for teammatesThis really isn't fun.
>>537603942It's not too hard to ban evade. I used to do it a lot when I got banned for toxicity by the tranny admins, it's pretty much just make a new acc, spoof your gpu/drive IDs, and delete all registry entries matching a certain regex. Thankfully the trannies got booted (probably cause they abused their power) so no need to do that anymore.
>>537604803deadlock is too hard to be popular I thinkyou can't just turn your brain off or you get diddled
>>537603731His ult even had the VVVVRRRRRRRRR mirroring gif related from Evil Dead 2 which is hilarious
>>537596360she's an M1 hero dipshit. she's not dealing a lot of damage without shooting. Infernus does a ton of spirit damage too and people obviously consider him a carry
>>537603534haze/infernus players can basically just follow their meta builds and ignore most of the game
>>537605280>M1 heroB-but muh Rake...
>>537603534if you have any color but orange as haze you're a faggot
>>537605024deadlock feels easier than apex legend or rainbow 6 siege. randoms can't tell the game has heroes that just press 4 though
can holiday be played as a mix of gun and spirit?
>>537603574>amber is mostly good people>saphire is mostly bad peopleI don't think the patrons would cherry pick based on morals given that they are manipulative rulers willing to do anything to get what they want and very probably evil. They'll talk about how morally right and correct they are for sure, but not live by it, like the average CEO rat
>>537600303>>537603384>>537570594why cant you fucking faggots answer this shit holy fuck man
>>537605024Well yeah thats why I said casual game modes for brainlets.
>>537605823The way you do it is _____________________________________________________
>>537605823genuinely can't tell what you're on about
Here's how to buff mina.The person that got love bite will deal lesser damage to Mina while it's on cooldown.
Just had a Drifter/Yamato lane and I think I would have rather had gender reassignment surgery done with tweezers, fuck me
>>537605823
After one game as Doorman I have decided he is never leaving my roster
>>537604405Mina but it's small and cute
THESAVIOROFDEADLOCK
>>537606031bring back solo lane so that actually works
>>537605024tell that to dynamo, viscous, bebop, or seven players
>>537606392mina crawled so that the next waifubait hero can be stupidly overtuned and have 60% winrate
>>537606392Man I fucking hate that every single hero shooter is infested with cumbrain faggots that will spam some boring bitch. Thank God dota has pudge otherwise phantom assassin would be the top played hero.
>>537605024>deadlock is.. le hardwhen did you niggers start spreading this meme?
>>537605602The only weapon items you need on Holliday are kinetic dash opening rounds and glass cannon. Anything else is a scam.
>>537606589He's right though. Real deadlock doesn't begin until you reach at least phantom.
>>537606392>Marksman>People go frontline with her because her 1 is a melee range skill>Die like a bitch>Claim that the hero is shit>Doesn't change strategy and continue trying to force 1There's no wonder why her win rate is so shit.
are all M1 mains unironically vermin? they usually have the biggest mouths and the biggest egos despite relying on a competent team to do anything above mid elo
>>537605823https://youtu.be/8Wnsw9qlxOY
>>537606392Singlehandedly made every new hero going forward pretty.I kneel.
This video somehow got recommended to me, and now I want to learn how to play Holliday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTZD9fNoCfM
>friend keeps trying to play vindicta>can't aim for shit so every time he gets her it's an instant lossguess im double prio vindicta until this retard learns his lesson
>>537606526>so that the next waifubait heroalready exists, Paige is right there anon
>>537606847just tell him to spam stake
>>537605730I think it could be cool if it was a Frampt/Kaathe from DS1 situation where they are both being extra manipulative but going at it from different ways (righteousness vs self fulfillment)
>>537606896he refuses to listen to me, i honestly don't want to play with him at all anymore because he's just so fuckin insufferable
I WILL keep playing gun Abrams and (((YOU))) cannot stop me.
DRIFTER NERFFUCKING WHEN
>>537606847>you need good aim to echo shard stake with alchemical fire?
>>537606945*double jumps your shoulder charge*DA HUNT BEGINZ
>>537607012*shoots with gun*
I think vindicta is the least fun hero to lane against. Her stupid gorillion falloff range gun chunks you for stupidly high hp from a mile away and half the cast can't even fight back because lol lmao I'm flying away now.Outside of laning phase though she's no more obnoxious than anyone else. I'd put Yamato at the absolute top of obnoxiousness outside of laning phase.
>>537607060*teleports behind you*nothin personell
>>537607012t. phantom strikes youyou will be taking a book to the face.
>>537605730that's actually kinda fitting, specially since they have now decided to make the sapphire patron more unhinged
>>537606981I think the main problem with drifter is that he's designed to be a pubstomping nightmare. He has a kit entirely devoted to farming the weakest person on the enemy team, and he gets permanent damage from doing it. He will find the feeding haze on your team, kill her 10 times and make the game impossible for you to win. The single-handedly makes your bad teammates 10x worse
>>537606830>bomb rush cyberfunkKino
>>537585213Healing tempo is crazy on Warden. I found one build that uses it and now I destroy
>>537607263just kill him lol
>>537607263eventually enough people will become wise to his shenanigans and he'll be worthless
>>537607263drifter falls apart to hard CC tanks, he just punishes bad players. that's not going away no matter how many times he gets nerfed. meanwhile seven has climaxed to a 57% winrate
Drifter punishes retarded Sevens and Nigfernuses that solo farm all gameIn high elo I like hin as a splitpusher/counter splitpusherEspecially since people love to soak solo in lane
>>537607263>notice he keeps killing the same teammate>not using said teammate as bait to just ambush him
>>537607263He also shits out damage with relatively few items, so he can just build survivability, farm kills and become a god
>>537607012>>537607181>retards forgot about counterspellCompletely shuts down melee abrams
>>537607573This is the same argument people make against Pudge Dota 2, and that guy is fucking trash high level. Just get wise to his tricks and hope your teammates are too.
>>537607135*shoots with gun again*
>>537607584t. 360 noscopes to bait your parryyou WILL be taking a book to the face.
>>537607647NTA but drifter's ult will always keep him competitively relevant. icefrog gave him a lot of love with that ult.
>>537607263Easy drifter nerf.>He now get +10% damage buff for each kill>But the buff will only last for 10 minutes
YOUR DRIFTER>farming jungle>ults and then runs a mile to do 200 damage>prefers 1v4 to stalking ganks>builds melee itemsTHEIR DRIFTER>being of darkness older than doorman>the moment squishy heroes leave base he is balls deep in their assholeBuild perfect every time without following a build>gets ganked and runs around a corner to his entire team; they kill you>"gg ez"
>>537607712Actually, I agree with you. But the point I want to embelish is that Pudge slowly dropped away from his throne as the noobkiller and had to have significant reworks and buffs for him just to stay above a sub 30 percentage. He's still one of the most picked, but his win rate is pretty poor because awareness is a skill noobs lack in, and he feasts on. I think it's the same for Drifter here.
>>537607765melee drifter isn't that bad, if they decide to change his t3 on his claw or skillshot to something that could bump his melee you'll see it more
>>537596232fake and gay, these dont use their file names from neon prime.
>>537607682you parry the shoulder charge which can't be baited and can be parried on reaction and he can't get a free melee anymore + it buffs you up afterwards
>>537606549>Mina's kit>boring>praises Pudge who effectively has 1 spellanon is gay
>>537607482pisslow players never learn how to play.
>>537606721>Just play with -2 abilities and lowest vit stats in the game then shes strong lulGenuinely, what is it about dotards hat makes them gay and retarded?
nobody dies when i shoot them in this fucking game AGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
>>537608210There's that word again. Do you ever think that you're the one in this "pisslow", anon?
>>537571750Cosmetics won't happen until full release, which isn't coming for a long time
>>537608281nuh uh, I piss super high, I'm master pisser, my flow is immaculate
>>537608232shoot them more ???
>>537608224>I will keep forcing this useless game plan that doesn't workDo you also buy divine for techies?
>>537608281What I'm trying to get at is he'll be a nightmare for pisslow players. He's basically free wins for anyone smart enough to play him at that level.
>>537608467how can i when everyone in this game fucking outheals all damage and nobody dies
>>537608613toxic bullets
>>537608534>do you also glorp shippa on bogbar?shut the fuck up retard nobody cares
>>537608586Okay, I understand. That's how Bloodseeker is, and Valve makes it pretty clear that you either learn how to deal with him or lose to him, so I don't think it's any different here.
>>537608709I know you don't.Because whenever it takes more than 5 brain cells to think, you immediately give up.
>>537608709kek
>>537608709Seething antiglorpfag
>>537608715It's good and bad. People new to the game will face one that stomps them back to back and may get discouraged to continue to play. But on the other hand if they can't learn to deal with him then it'll only get worse higher up.
how do you use mina ult?i just use it as a "fuck this turret" buttonor a "fuck you seven" when he's ulting
>>537609145dota has had multiple pubstompers for two decades and still breaks 700k with free hats
>>537605913>>537605891>8>>537606098>>537606809youre all so fucking annoying holy shit man
>Drifter builds all green shit + 2 bullet items>top damage every timeseems heckin balanced!
>POV: you copied bebop ult and are firing at each other, but you maxed the ult
>>537609534
>>537606981>DoormanNo homeless cunts allowed. Drifter cannot check out of doorman's ult, and is trapped in purgatory. If that player leaves, their steam account is deleted. If that account was a smurf, they get drone striked.
>>537609278because dota is a two decade old game that every single eastern european and south american plays, even if they're well into their 40s. and it's all they play, and it's all they will continue to play until they die. dota does not get new players, it's just all the same bitter retards growing older and refusing to touch anything that isn't dota. deadlock is a new game and does not have a comparable history. they can't operate under the assumption people will stick with it no matter what because this game is not dota and all the newcomers and more "casual" players will leave if they constantly enforce retarded balance decisions
>>537606549THEN WHY DIDN’T YOU BUY FUCKING CONCORD!!!???
>>537609927I didn't buy Concord but I did play Bleeding Edge and it was really fun. I mained the fat bitch on the motorcycle. The death metal guy was great too.
>>537609218Saw a team fighting another enemy?Jump up and ult on the enemy.The enemy is now stuck fighting your team without abilities while getting nuked by your ult.
I’m uninstalling but man it was funThanks for the invite bros
>>537610071this concept art is kinda soulful. like apex if it good
>bloodseeker>sees you at low health, not when alone>gains MOVEMENT speed, not damage>has an ability to punish movement/teleportThe same kit would work. hell, giving him blowdarts or magical throwing axes. Balloon Seeker - Demon Clown Murderer1. Clown SenseCan see any enemy at low % life, and reveals them on the map for your team. Activate to silence self and gain gun damage/melee damage2. Bozo's willSummons a shower of knives firing toward the center of an aoe from 6 different angles after a delay, each successive hit deals stacking damage and longer silence3. Inside the WallsBalloon Seeker can phase through a wall, if the other side of the wall is an interior, the entire room fills up with laughing gas and applies a random stun debuff on all enemies, if the outside is a wall, balloon seeker will summon balloons and gain slow floating/flying. Deals melee damage in a small aoe around the exit.4. DeflatePokes a hole in an enemy, deflating them and dealing a % of their max health as damage when they move. The more the enemy moves, the lighter they become and the faster they move. Health cannot be gained while deflating. Teleporting can be fatal.
>>537609787>doesmt get new playersit gets constant new players from LOL, its annoying because they usually drop it the first time they come along, then switch completely after something stupid from riot. I saw shitload of people switch with vanguard, and WASD is probably going to solidify a lot of them.
>>537610357I think it had good gameplay, it just didn't get much post launch support and then they outright killed it after only releasing two characters. I remember Microsoft was shilling it hard for a while
How long before the characters lose their "new" status?I just want to queue with my main and nobody else.
>>537609534Thats not how pov works retard
>>537610618if you think league players are making a fulltime switch to dota you are probably the most clueless person in this thread
>>537610693I mean I've literally seen it playing amateur dota leagues, the story is so fucking common now it's not even funny. League players only come back for aram at this point.
>>537610693They didn't have choices. Leagues is killing itself.
>>537610867if you ignore the slow descent into gachashit and look at the game itself league is in one of the best states it's been in in the past 6 or 7 years
can they give sinclair a real skin and va? and make his assistant like, not lady geist with a ghost filter?
riot has been shitting its pants for about ten years straight, the only people left are the truly hopeless or koreans playing because of legacy
>>537610674>POV: You are an assmad bebop
>>537610964Is this what you imagine as you get stuck with the grey screen after ulting yet again?
>>537610921That's a low bar. You know it.
>>537610921>literally every game is over at 20 minutes at the very latest because of surrender>items are boring as fuck because retards complained that the game was being balanced around things not being stat sticks>any new interesting champs are only interesting because they have literal dota abilites (looking at you mel)>WASD has already been show to be a MESS with abilities having aim-assist.
>>537611065and yet it consistently grows more and more every year and completely shitstomps dota in terms of popularity and playerbase>inb4 "popular = good XDDD"you've been brainwashed by the internet into believing nobody has any fun ever playing any game. good job. league is a good game and the vast, vast, vast majority of the playerbase has a ton of fun playing it. the game wouldn't have lasted 15 years if either of these two things wasn't true
>>537611291>he doesn't realize it's still heavily botted and bleeding players while dota stays consistent Why the fuck would the add fucking WASD movement if the game was growing in popularity?
>>537611291league is doing so well you have to come into the deadlock general and insist it's doing great
>>537611291It's not growing, but it's not really dying either. If you go by reddit upvotes (I know I know) it's very marginally dying but much like dota, it's just going to last forever.
>>537611291You are the one brainwashed by Riot, my man. League was fun (and maybe still fun) for new players under 100 hours. Tell them to cut ARAM and TFT and see what happens.
>>537611391wasd is something that hasn't even been introduced to the main game yet. why are you acting as if it's been a long standing issue that's been killing the game? they did it to make the experience of starting league easier for new players since that's been an issue for a long while now despite retention rates still being fine. or do you think they should just not care about getting more players ever>>537611403if you can't follow a simple reply chain i don't know what to tell you. try having breakfast tomorrow and see how you feel i guess>>537611441yes, it is lasting forever. but it's also growing more every year. arcane is a big part of that. worlds and msi break new viewership records every year. the concept that league is dying has been uttered by what i can only guess is bitter dotafags for like 10 years now. these games aren't going anywhere
>>537611291League is not growing
>>537611891Stop looking at peak viewership and look at average viewership, retard. Of course peak viewership is going to rise over time as more people play the game, thus meaning more people will hop in to watch the yearly final then hop off.
how do I secure unsecured souls??
league will always clear dota
>Play soloQ doorman>Most fun character ever>Play Doorman duo with my friend who's never touched a moba and his gaming experience consists of CoD and Valorant>I want to kill myself
>>537612364spend them or wait
New thread doko?
my last doorman blamed me for our team losing and not our victor that went 2-11
>>537612494we aint at page 10 yet boyo
Am I able to rewatch my past matches?
is riot shill guinsoo himself or something? the actual LoL general here is full of wacko gooners too lazy masturbating to shit post here
>>537612623yea
did you know that you can press your f1-f6 keys to see the perspectives of your teammates in game?
>>537612647Can you tell me how pls :3
>>537612720if you go to the scoreboard from the end of the match in your match history, there will be a download replay button in the bottom right corner
>>537612704It turns your character to match their direction so it's sorta useless. I have to reorient myself every time I use it.
>>537565470Deadlock vs Dota design ethoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0qmkQGqpM8
>>537612638>so mad that he's a retard who can't follow context and replies that he has to write this to feel betterwhatever you say man
>>537612770Thanks bro
>>537565826for example?
>>537611891https://www.thegamer.com/arcane-riot-games-financial-failure-report-over-budget/
>>537612881we went from you whining about pub stomping heroes to you crowing that this is why the game will die while sucking off LoL which is 15 years full of schizo balancing decisions
>play one game before bed>enemy drifter proceeds to rape everyone>tell team to try to stick together>it's no use>ult him to take him out the fight as doorman>team still can't do anythingEpic.
>>537613054whatever you say man lol
>>537612984I don't get how this is surprising. Everyone who likes mobas has already tried or played league already. Arcane only made a handful of casual players try it out then immediately realize why they stayed far away.
>>537613267I feel like the real problem is that Arcane is a fanfic. The champs in game are totally different characters. Art direction too.
>>537600206Half the heroes need to be in that range to hit their abilities on you
this game is so much fun bros.
So I'm really behind on souls and the map's completely cleared out on my half of the jungle. Do I just hold Greenich or hang around the teamfight for assist souls and to do what I can there?
What is the point of Vyper exactly? Just gun? Her skills are useless garbage, the slide is useless and being forced to take it fucks up your laning, the knife is shit and the ulti is cool but nonsensical in this fucking character
>>537611291The fact that last couple of years LoLtroons are as obsessed with Dota and hating on it as Dotards were with LoL a decade ago makes the statement "LoL is alive and growing" hard to believe
>>537613986I dunno if it's the BEST option but it's generally what I end up doing when some faggot slurped up all the jungle farm on our side of the map just to feed it away in some dipshit teamfight.
Valve should give Mina inherent spirit lifesteal as a passive.
>>537571237>rank does not mean anything in the current system>t. hard stuck ritualist
I haven't played since pre shop reworkHave they made Vindicta less oppressive in lane?
QSR should be split into two different items. The bonus damage from QSR is obviously very valuable for a lot of chars/abilities but the reload aspect of it feels at odds. The damage part works for burst damage abilities, typically stuff you want to start a fight with while the reload aspect works for abilities you'd want to use mid-fight. They feel at odds and there is no perfect solution.
>>537613986From the map my route would be>Clear green>Take punchbox adjacent to wave>if team is still fighting take enemy punchbox>as soon as you can't see anyone on the map bail
i only play characters with pompadours. who should i play
5 minutes to make a new thread or a bake another thick Ivy OP
What's the Billy build?So far i've been building him mostly gun but with lifestrike and spirit snatch and that's been doing pretty well.
>>537614925shiv, the guy with the pompadour
>>537613986honestly I'd just hard push that walker, that's like 3 waves and one walker worth of souls instead of immediately dying and feeding. And if the enemies try to chase you before you can take the walker then you've at least removed enemies from the fight
>>537615039That's probably the standard way to go, along with getting whatever green or active items to counter the enemy team (spirit res, disarm, etc.) The only other build I do sometimes is heavy melee focus with echo shard on 1 so I can triple slam Mina's who thought their 28 hp/level was going to keep them safe from the Goat.
>winning by a good amount>enemy player leaves>ok its 6v5 easy>3 teammates decide to dive their ENTIRE TEAM by themselves without saying anything>all die>back up in base>billy decides to dive the enemy team also by himself with no warning>dies>they shred patronI was actually stunned. its like they played fine for 30 minutes and then passed the controls to a drooling retard. how the fuck do you throw so hard? just....don't try to take on the entire team by yourself. how is that a hard thing to do? i'm not even mad we lost. I'm just at a loss for words for what I saw. dumbest thing I have ever seen in this game. it sounds hyperbolic but I'm not kidding
>its yet another forced lossIf the K:D and networth is 50% higher for 20 minutes, give a forfeit. I'm simply not going to play this game until they do. I'm uninterested in the bullshit stomp faggotry of this game with random team members.
>>537615364people see someone leave and assume the game is automatically won, with nothing they do affecting the outcome from there on out
>>537602812I will no longer play seven if this happens
SOMEONE didn't link the new thread when they made itya fucker>>537613151>>537613151>>537613151
>>537615241what about kelvin and lash?
