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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8598 - Prime Position Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocBa8jTXUA

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition Trailer
ENG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIhfo2X0oI
JPN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVoDsexw0NM

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk 6 | Vector, Espio, & Charmy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxYkmbmDAr0&ab_channel=SonictheHedgehog

>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
https://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70

>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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CrossWorlds dialogue datamines:
https://pastebin.com/kAx2DP5c (EN)
https://pastebin.com/0vg53isp (JP)
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name my band
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>537581893
I want picrel but with Whisper
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>>537582028
Pixels for Ants
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Sonic girls for this feel?
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>>537582343
Lara-Su
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>>537582343
Blaze, probably
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>>537581950
seca
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>>537582031
sloppa
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>>537582460
this
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I can't believe Sonic had it's own Trunks and Penders took her from us.
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>>537582460
>>537582463
Silver getting snu-snu'd by muscle girls
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>>537582608
Did he do anything with her? I was gonna buy his book but I suddenly became poor.
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Have a lovely evening, /sthg/
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>>537582093
>>537581604
>pbbtbtbt
Shut the fuck up faggot. I want Sonic to be fun.
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And honestly if you look at SegaSonic the Hedgehog (1993) you'll see that Mighty is the tough guy, Ray is the cute guy, and Sonic is an in-between. This combined with some Harmony artwork from the 90s and Sonic 1 concept art, I'm pretty sure that Sonic was created to be cool AND cute. Tails is just an even cuter counterpart to Sonic and there's nothing wrong with that because Tails is younger than Sonic. This idea that Sonic shouldn't be allowed to be cute and that he's edgy is a misrepresentation. It's just that when I say Sonic is cartoony there's always someone that think I'm saying Sonic should crack jokes every 3 seconds which is not what I mean. None of this means Sonic can't be serious or cool or whatever
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>>537582608
Ian wrote Jani-Ca like how you're supposed to write Silver while the actual Silver was in the fucking arc.
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>>537582608
if idw was kino like archie mimic would've been her Cell
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Mhhhhh
I love this wolf
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>>537582727
>the fun in question
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>>537582727
Then you want SA2, the peak of this series, the most fun Sonic gameplay you can find anywhere, the best and most exciting story story, the best characterizations and character usage, and the best music. Maekawa did nothing wrong.
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>>537582859
POV: you're her toilet
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>>537582696
you too amyanon. btw, have you played the crossworlds beta?
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>>537582976
Vgh, finally, Maekawaslop is deshitted.
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>>537582957
Archie was weird.
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Why do IDWfags still defend their crappy, soulless comic? Its reputation goes further down the shitter every issue.
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>>537582729
I was mandated okay??
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It feels like fans only value Trip for the prospect of her modernization.
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>>537583139
it works. this is not on Espio's game canon moveset, but it works
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>>537582728
You get it

Tok many 2000sfans think classic was just the CD animations when that was just one interpretation of the character just like adventure
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>>537582957
I wish Espio had his own spinoff already
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>>537582957
Espioyume is so lucky
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>NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES NO ONE CARES
i care.
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SEGA removed ages because they knew about the Red California bill (Texas) SB20 ahead of time.
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>>537582728
You're arguing against things that no one said.

>there's always someone that think I'm saying Sonic should crack jokes every 3 seconds which is not what I mean
It's because you claim Meta Era Classic Sonic has the same style as 90s Sonic, even though Meta Era Classic Sonic is exactly as you described, and 90s Sonic isn't.

>>537583258
The 90s interpretations were closer in style to each other and to the 2000s than any of the Meta Era Classic Sonic interpretations.
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>>537583224
This'll get dragged out forever.
Modern Trip will always be just off-screen.
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>>537583258
The CD animations don't even negate what I said because Sonic is a very focused character it's just that he's also a cartoon character and thinking he can't be cute or goofy at times is just stupid
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>>537583421
But there aren't any sex scenes in Sonic games.
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>>537583224
I love Trip and will push for her's and Fang's inclusion in EVERYTHING.
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>>537583224
>>537583571
TRIP THE DRAGON :D
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>>537583493
The problem isn't that he's "cute or goofy at times". The problem is that's all modern Classic Sonic is. He's the cute and goofy mute version of Sonic, but that was never Sonic. Sonic NEVER behaved like Classic Sonic does in Generations.
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>>537583226
>not on Espio's game canon moveset
Sonic the fighters isn't canon?
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>>537583567
>he doesn't know
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>>537583258
The CD animations and the OVA have the same style as Sonic Adventure. Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic CD, Sonic 3 & Knuckles: none of these games have the same style as Mania Adventure, and Sonic's behavior in them is nothing like Classic Sonic's behavior in Generations or Forces
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>>537583452
>even though Meta Era Classic Sonic is exactly as you described, and 90s Sonic isn't.
Tell me when Sonic cracks jokes in Mania or Superstars. And no, visual humor/gags don't count. In fact those things were always a part of the series lol

>The 90s interpretations were closer in style to each other and to the 2000s than any of the Meta Era Classic Sonic interpretations.
They weren't though, nuClassic is similar to how Sonic was portrayed in some material in the 90s made by Sonic Team themselves. He isn't even unserious in the nuClassic games he's just very cartoony and goofy but they failed to balance that with a sense of coolness. But Sonic's goofiness is also something that was kinda lost in some modern games too
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>>537583616
This is true.
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I dont care about this discussion anymore, what improvement would YOU do to classic sonic if you were in charge?
>hurr durr i would axe it
I mean ACTUAL improvements like characters, games, animation etc

For me i think the first thing i would do is remove the no voice restriction and let him talk, and bring some gameplay improvements from the advance era to the new games
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>>537583224
Not true atleast for me, I genuinely like her as a character. I don't see the problem in wanting Sega to give her and Fang Modern Designs either.
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>>537583697
>checks
i am wrong. but he hasn't been using this move since then
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>>537583856
>and bring some gameplay improvements from the advance era to the new games
Sounds cool. I'd try to balance out the more surreal elements with more grounded stuff. I think Mania did a good job in this regard. But honestly a 3D classic Sonic game would be really cool.
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>>537583958
Who could blame him?
That's one way to ruin one's taste buds at least.
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Why can't Sega give proper support to their older Sonic games? Sonic Origins Plus still has bugs to fix and Sonic Superstars doesn't save config settings on PC properly (among other things).
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>>537583409
No one cares about you, Woefag.
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>>537583086
Man I wish I could. I stopped owning consoles since the ps3 and my computer is ancient, tiny and kinda bad. It barely ran tf2 in low settings to give you an idea.
If I had the means to play it, I would be glued to that. I never really was interested in any sonic kart games but this one really caught my eye, I am happy with just looking gameplay of it and I hope it has a longer lifespan than the previous kart game. Thank you for asking.
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>>537584168
Who the fuck is woe
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>>537583571
this Japanese artist drew such kino tang art
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>>537584146
Because only 5 people bought those games
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>>537583224
One of the reasons i believe is because sega doesnt let them talk, i think more people would be ok with some classic characters staying only on classic if they could talk
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>>537583808
>visual humor/gags don't count
They do. And you already knew this two posts ago. Classic Sonic is fully focused on cute and goofy humor, which was never meant to be the focus of Sonic.

>But Sonic's goofiness is also something that was kinda lost in some modern games too
Sonic was always more serious than goofy. You're right that games completely removed the goofy aspects, but that was a natural evolution of the series, and the tiny little goofiness Sonic had was never completely removed. Meta Era Classic Sonic (and a lot of the Meta Era in general) fully focuses on goofiness to offbrand extremes. I am okay with the brand separation and I understand why it exists, but claiming Sonic was like that in the 90s is just a lie.

>>537583856
>what improvement would YOU do to classic sonic if you were in charge?
I think it's fine as is. Superstars looks fun and I'm looking forward to playing it soon.
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>>537582976
>>537583018
>Maekawa is le shonen
No he fucking isn't. SA2 is deliberately written like an action movie. If you want to see how Maekawa writes with no restrictions look at 06. I thought that game was cringe 20 years ago and my perception remains unchanged. I don't mind cringekino like Danganronpa, I specifically have a problem with shit like Maekawa, Kingdom Hearts, and Final Fantasy. It's lame.
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She's cool and cute.
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>>537584513
I dont think classic is in a bad state, but i think the formula needs to change more beyond what was possible in mega drive cartidge in 1993
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>>537584239
Guy who spammed his shitty OC everywhere. No one gave a shit and we ran him outta here
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Sonic characters with this feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE0BIuPcWoE
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>>537584562
Who are you quoting? Nobody said that in this thread.

>If you want to see how Maekawa writes with no restrictions
That's SA2 and maybe Black Knight.

>look at 06
He had tons of restrictions with that game. Budget and time, mismanagement, co-writing with Nakamura and Yoshimura, and even some western involvement.
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>>537584562
06 isn’t finished.
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>>537584513
>They do. And you already knew this two posts ago. Classic Sonic is fully focused on cute and goofy humor, which was never meant to be the focus of Sonic.
That's not the focus of nuClassic either, Superstars still has a story of it's own. Sonic doesn't even come across as cool in 2000s games like Shadow 05 and 06 for example

>but that was a natural evolution of the series,
But I thought Sonic wasn't supposed to change bud
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>>537584173
The game was fun. lobbies were mostly filled with sonic, shadow, and jet but I still saw plenty of Amy players. Though I haven't played as her I've heard that with the right boost gadget setup she can be a very good character.
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Duofag killed woefag
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>>537584646
>She's cool
but not sweet and catchy.
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No matter how much you try to shit on Maekawa it won't make Ian look better in comparison.
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>>537584687
Why are you sperging out over him if he isn't here then? lol
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>>537581871
I love it when they're in prime position
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>>537584774
>Le western Boogeyman
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https://gamebanana.com/members/1726465
>Who?
The one guy that was doing those forwardports of LXP Shadow and P+ Knuckles and those nifty Smash mods?
Turns out GhostSoup was a ban-evading Smash/Sonic pedo. Also worked on shitty mods like Beyond Melee (confirmed dead lol) and does a lot of awful leftwing takes on X.

Don't ever shill this faggot here again, especially the garbage tranny OP that we had ages ago.
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>>537585058
He mistook me for him
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>>537585076
I am simply referring to something Maekawa said. A westerner (not America) changed an aspect that Maekawa wanted in the story, and Maekawa was upset over it. I don't hate the west.
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Ian Flynn's law

As an discussion about Sonic the Hedgehog online grows longer, the probability of a /sthg/ anon mentioning Ian Flynn on unrelated conversations approaches
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>>537585058
Cause he is the worst poster I’ve ever seen here
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I only got one character interaction the entire time I played crosswords.
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No matter how much you try to shit on Maekawa it won't make 06 look good nor not look like it was everyone else's fault
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>>537585198
I've never heard of this
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>>537584664
I agree with you, but the whole point of the Meta Era Classic Sonic branding is to be stuck in the past with a focus on a mischaracterization of the series. I am okay with that and I can enjoy those games, I just don't like the lies about 90s Sonic.

>>537584837
>Superstars still has a story of it's own
Yeah, told in the Meta Era Classic Sonic style, and for the first time since the start of the branding. It's fine. But let's not pretend that's a constant or the same as 90s Sonic.

>I thought Sonic wasn't supposed to change
I never claimed this. I simply said the changes from game to game in the 90s and 2000s weren't anywhere near as drastic as 90s Sonic compared to Meta Era Classic Sonic.
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>>537581871
>>537585068
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>>537585126
How can that be true if was responding to me and not you
>>537585371
Well nigga hes not me and im not here enough to know who he is
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Fionafag was actually right for once, fuck this place. It was fun playing the ONT and now there's no reason to stick around until the 25th.
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>>537585351
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>>537585405
there are only 3 games in here labelled as "success". 1 of them was written by Maekawa and it's story was plagiarized from a shoujo manga
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>>537584946
>>537585405
Ok so the only way to dislike Maekawa is if you have an ulterior motive or bias? You can't just dislike his writing in a vacuum? You do know that anyone that actually analyses the story of SA2 beyond the hype moments will see it has obvious continuity problems right?
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>>537585412
https://x.com/mizuhano/status/556775198255349760
Maekawa wanted to call Elise "Oliga". An "overseas salesperson" insisted that it was a bad name because it sounded Russian and forced him to change it. Maekawa was angry when he found out that the guy wasn't even right and Oliga is a European name.
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>>537585117
Honestly, I'll never be satisfied with the lack of Shadow in Smash until Sakurai finally do it.
No mod will convince me otherwise.
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>People like SA2's plot for the hype moments and aura
And there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>537585351
Wow, we're mentioning the guy who writes for the games and other Sonic media?!
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>>537585671
>Oliga
I don't hate Russia or Russians. but this sounds like a granny or a fat auntie.
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>>537585796
And it's not the only reason people like it. It's just an amazing game overall, in all aspects.
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>>537584887
I am glad to hear that. I think I would only main amy just to hear her cute voice. The voicelines they gave her for when she does tricks is the cutest thing ever.
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>>537585634
You can analyze stories from any pieces of media and find plot holes in it instead of actually just enjoying it
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>>537583856
I disagree, part of the appeal of Classic Sonic's gameplay is its simplicity. I do thinks Advanced gameplay should come back and ST should value 2d Modern Sonic gameplay more, but I don't think it would work for Classic Sonic's game design approaches.

>>537584425
I don't think Classic should be voiced because it would just drag it into the voice acting discourse the rest of the franchise has and take away Classic Sonic's universal appeal. I also don't really want to hear RCS voice coming out of Classic Sonic, I just don't think he has the right voice for him.

I feel like Classic Sonic at most should do what Flicky's Island did and have story-cards with text to contextualize what's happening. I think how S3&K presented its story is taken for granted and Superstars proves how difficult it is to pull off; Superstars would have really benefitted from FLs approach to story presentation.
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>>537585434
Ok I'll do something else with my day. You failed to provide any reason as to how nuClassic is less on brand than all of modern Sonic which you know is a tall order. You look at superficial things in the modern games to try to glue them together to the Genesis games, and you look at superficial games in nuClassic to distance them from the Genesis games, and this all a part of your confirmation bias. Find peace
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I tried sharing the Japanese script differences on Sonic Twitter and no one cared.

People cared more that I said that Whisper was not a good fit for this game if you were going to try and give her actual writing.
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>>537584837
>Sonic doesn't even come across as cool in 2000s games like Shadow 05 and 06 for example
Come on
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>>537585818
What do all these girls have in common?
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>>537586034
>and no one cared.
what did you expect? the differences are not extreme enough to cause a controversy
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>537586034
boo hoo nigga
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>>537585634
>so the only way to dislike Maekawa is if you have an ulterior motive or bias?
That's usually the case, yeah. People who bash him are just doing it to own those who are fans of Japanese Sonic or trying to make Ian not look as bad by dragging Maekawa to his level.
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Douge
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>>537586136
W-well I thought they would care about the marine reference....and this place cared about the whole prize money discrepancy!
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>>537585974
I didn't fail at anything. You were proven wrong. I don't know why you're stubborn about this, nothing is threatening Meta Era Classic Sonic. It is allowed to exist and I even enjoy it. I just don't want the history of 90s Sonic to be erased. You want that, and I don't know why.
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>>537584774
Okay, fine. I think Black Knight is cool. I think 06 and SA2 have cool moments, the latter more than the former, but Shadow and Silver are lame any time they do anything "serious". I think Shad05 is cooler than 06.
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>>537585850
>thread having a discussion about classic sonic and maekawa
>the retarded parrot that came here from /pol/:
IAN FLYNN? IAN FLYNN? IAN FLYNN! DID YOU KNOW THAT IAN FLYNN, WHAT ABOUT IAN FLYNN! TALK ABOUT IAN FLYNN, IAN FLYNN
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>>537585969
Sega would be stupid not to have the next 2D game be Modern, Shadow sells
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>>537585671
>>537585870
"Oliga" sounds more regal than Elise.
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>>537585671
>Oliga
Elise is much a better name. Oliga sounds like a fat opera singer.
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https://x.com/Kafonn_/status/1962270416904368380
>people think this shit is balanced and Smash rework worthy
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>/pol//pol//pol//pol//pol//pol/
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>>537585796
SA2 is one of the few games where someone that isn't a hyper autist could recall nearly every scene that happened. It needs to be studied
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>bestie
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Sonic, whether in the 90s, 2000s, or even today, can easily have slight goofy moments as well as a tragic plane crash in the same game. Meta Era Classic Sonic would NEVER, because Meta Era Classic Sonic's whole identity is clean and goofy. There is nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is claiming Sonic was like that in the 90s.
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>>537586604
Stop punching that toddler shadow
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>>537584309
Sega still pays for denuvo because more than 5 people are buying those games on the regular.
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>>537585671
>Maekawa was angry when he found out that the guy wasn't even right and Oliga is a European name.
Sounds like the whole ESL deal with Pra_Mai where people thought it was a random button or playable Mii in Brawl.
Turns out that's wrong, they were actually planned after all!
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>>537586830
>4th wheel
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>>537586923
Can you explain? I'm not familiar with what you're referring to.
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>>537586854
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So nobody is talking about this? is it 3d or just the exact same but on pc?
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>>537586941
He's not wrong.
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>>537586941
>even jet knows sonic/tails/amy is a farce
based
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>>537586467
What is the point of this? Why not just play actual Smash Bros?
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>>537586941
Did Ian write this?
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>>537587208
/sthg/ doesnt like fangames for some reason, i think this one is 3D but that might be another project
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>>537586830
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
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>>537587208
>So nobody is talking about this?
We did last thread, while a PC port is nice, the animation is amateurish and it's clearly made by a trendchaser who took part of the whole discorse over old cutscene animation test for Sonic Generations.
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>>537587256
>sonic/tails/amy
I think you might be forgetting someone else
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>>537587362
Wasn't in the last thread award
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>>537587362
/sthg/ doesn't like anything sonic related
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>>537582031
>>537582578
>>537582663
zeena sex
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>>537587362
/sthg/ has been interested in the chronicles fangame. or it looked like it
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>>537587503
Mephiles
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You guys have no idea what you're talking about.
The core three is Eggman, Sonic and Tails.
Knuckles would be the core 4th. Amy has been and always will be at best 5th place in the franchise, of course she's lower than that because Shadow is 5th. So I guess she's tied for 6th with Rouge at this point.
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>>537585974
Also, the narrative that Maekawa completely removed goofy moments and humor is just wrong. The 90s games had tiny amounts of it, just like Sonic Adventure 2 or Heroes. The very first scene in SA2 is a goofy joke, while Sonic still looks cool as ever. Meta Era Classic Sonic is all about squeaky clean visual gags.
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>>537587335
Because Sonic Rivals 3 will never get made
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>>537587338
Yes
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>>537582483
And?
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>>537587535
Then what does /sthg/ like?
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>>537587503
sonic/tails/knuckles/amy is also a farce, yes
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>>537586792
It's the pacing and the synergy between the narrative and gameplay.

Sonic stages feel so disconnected from the storytellign nowadays. In SA2 every stage had a proper context and informed the gimmick of the stage, whether it be getting the Colony back online in Lost Colony(thus explaining why the whole stage is dark) or racing through a forest because the island the forest is in is rigged to explode (explaining the time limit)

SA2 does so many simple things right and yet no other game really captures its magic. It was a fucking fluke.
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>>537582483
but enough of the whiteboard
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>>537587693
It is just weird because you can find already well established Smash Bros. games with multiple Sonic characters already.
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knuckles belongs with his wife at home, not with the homeless hog, his illegitimate child and his babymama
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>>537586792
>>537587728
It was the peak of the series when Sonic Team was at its best and most confident than ever. Peak kino etc. Unbelievable that there are contrarians who pretend Maekawa is somehow bad.
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>>537587847
Let the kids make them own fangames anon, it helps learning how to code
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>>537587208
Some smut out of this from last thread anons idea:

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>>537587727
What about
>sonic/tails/knuckles/amy/mighty/ray/vector/charmy/espio/heavy/bomb/trip
Are those fraudulent too?
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>>537587978
Blaze just won't surrender
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>>537587978
Sorry I laughed
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>>537587927
The best artist of sthg...
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>>537587728
>It was a fucking fluke.
Not really. It was the last SEGA console Sonic game.
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>>537587718
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Bun!
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>>537587927
>femoid redrew this with sonamy and got 1000 likes
tailsxisters can't stop losing
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>>537588185
no, that's just sonic's band
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>>537588327
1000 likes where? Here?
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>>537588446
on x
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>>537588478
I don't care about Twitter.
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1. Main Character
2. Sidekick
3. Love Interest / Girl
4. Rival
5. Foil

This is PEAK core cast.
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>>537588478
This name sucks ass i hope whoever succeedes elon changes it back to Twitter
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>>537588247
That doesn't explain why they were completely unable to design a game like it since. It was a fluke. The perfect storm of circumstances is what made SA2 what it was. It can't be repeated.
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>>537588649
you will never get your hugbox back bskynigger
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>>537587978
>"I-I demand a rematch!"
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>>537588597
1. Fiona
2. Fiona
3. Fiona
4. Fiona
5. Fiona

This is PEAK core cast.
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>>537588720
???????
Are you a bot?
Im talking about the name you schizoid
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What's Amy's safeword
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>>537588597
STAKB

Kino. Shadow should be stuck in DLC jail.
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>>537588845
scizo generar, prease understand
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The peak of this franchise.
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>>537589036
Where is Sally?
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>>537588597
1. Naoto Ohshima
2. Hirokazu Yasuhara
3. Korone Inugami
4. Shiro Maekawa
5. Yuji Naka
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>>537589036
Can't tell if 1) They used to be very talented and the good employees left or 2) They were always mediocre and SA2 was just a lightning in a bottle situation
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>>537588845
Retard general. Don't expect anything resembling intelligent discussion here, you have better odds at /v/.
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>>537589126
In the Disney Afternoon trash bin
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>>537589150
What about iizuka
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>>537589204
unironically true, the crossworlds threads on /v/ the last couple of days have been more fun and engaging the this general has been in a long while
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>>537589374
Yeah what about him?
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>>537589309
Why is Disney trash so much better than SEGA?
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>>537589534
They have big money
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>>537589467
We all love him!
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>>537589534
Because it's not
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>>537589534
that's just Satam
when I was a kid I legit thought it was some Secret of NIMH cartoon
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Vocaloids
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>>537587927
May someone explain why this keeps getting reposted?
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What is zavokfag thoughts on the rest of the deadly six
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Was this a thing
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>>537589754
wow!!
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sonic speed
tails fly
amy love
knuckles power
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>>537589440
This place is an adult daycare for lonely autists, it's sad to know actual discussion will be dead until Crossworlds is out.
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Maekawa
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>>537589754
SEEEEEEEEX
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>>537587569
Zeena was built for humans
https://files.catbox.moe/tatuqi.jpg
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Fill out the survey.

https://xcancel.com/RaceCrossWorlds/status/1962666787134230995
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>>537590167
Why is he black
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>>537590212
What
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Rouge is a fatass cow who needs to drop some pounds
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>>537590485
It was the one held on PS5 only.
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>>537582664
Im pretty sure lara-su had the hots, for vector's son.
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>>537590954
Who is a massive nerd, so fuck that guy
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I love Metal Sonic even if he jobs. Approx 4 hours till the beta ends. How did we feel about CW so far? Are we pre-ordering?
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>>537590241
Having sex with a Zeti corrupts humans and slowly turns them black
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>>537591439
Zeena is reverse joe biden???
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Do you agree with this?
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>>537591679
I think some of it are intended and some are schizophrenic babble
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>>537591679
That's pretty much it. I think your image is on point.
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>>537591679
Didnt tnr creator of this force the comparison by claiming that Marine is a "raccoon dog"?
I now headcanon Blaze as a Catfish and Sonic as a warthog.
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>>537591087
Had a lot of fun, it seems like a pretty good kart racer. Gadget system is cool, tracks so far are nice (except sand road) and the kart/gear customization is a good little addition even if it's limited. Still don't think this game is worth the price tag though so I'll likely get the game on a discount at some point depending on if they add more sonic characters.
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>>537591679
Yes, this also made me notice how long her eyelashes are. And that Sonic being named after sound instead of wind or speed, might be the reason the music is the only consistently good thing about his franchise
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>quick recovery
>crash pads (half rings lost from damage)
>130 ring limit / Defense item chance
i wonder if this a good setup for not getting slowed down
or would just a Speed + Acceleration kit combo do better
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Do you agree with this as well?
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Sonic is a dirty fucking rat and blaze is a tyrannical obese feline
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>>537591894
There is a discount that lowers the price of the game significantly.

https://xcancel.com/Wario64/status/1962170063005340097
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>>537591850
You can find catfish anywhere. Blaze's aquatic counterpart ought to be exclusive to an Eastern country
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>>537591991
And together, they form the ____ !
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Chris is on to you fuckers, you better watch out.
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Why dont you stupid niggas design a knuckles for blaze's dimension instead of arguing about which ship is better
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>>537592085
didn't know about this, thank you for linking this anon!
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>>537592148
I dont see this nigga ever giving his opinions on recent sonic games the same way he used to back in the day
I wonder what he thought of superstars and frontiers
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>>537592260
i already did that but i'm not posting it
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>>537591679
unironically pathetic rambling when she is more of a mix of Knuckles and Sally
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>>537591894
I concur. Game is the most fun I had with Karting in a long time unironically. It seems like Sega finally got down a good kart racer. Gadgets add a fuckton of depth, race tracks feel solid, roster is also great. Besides the items being pretty unfair unless you forcibly wear specific Gadgets, and some stages being a bit poorly designed, I feel confident in this entry. Decided to pre-order since I basically declared this as my go-to kart. Glad I didnt buy MKW on launch because it feels like ass in comparison.
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>ont is over in 3 hours.
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>537584562
>Danganronpa
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>>537592397
Is he a JP purist? An everythingfag? Mom thrower?
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>>537587046
People dug up and speculated the Forbidden Seven, which was
>Dr.Mario
>Roy
>Mewtwo
>Dixie
>Toon Zelda
>Toon "Sheik"
and lastly
>Pra_Mai
Dixie was officially confirmed scrapped, there was hard evidence for the Melee vets, and Celda was a no brainer.
People were debating really hard about if Toon Sheik was just Tetra or Celdafied Sheik. (I mean, a TOON Sheik would be a huge "what" addition to the game, i don't think people would have liked it even if it was due time constraints, people weren't too happy with Wolf at the time)

As for Pra_Mai, people already figured it may have been just Plusle and Minun's official jap names . However, since there was no SourceGaming at the time of Brawl and Smash 4's pre-release, people relied on ESLs making fast conclusions on what it may have been on top of seething and cope from other Gen 3 Pokemon fags that were expecting Blaziken, Sceptile, and even Deoxys. ESLs made a claim that that Pra_Mai means "Every Player" in nipnong (made up shit) and Smashboards and wikia autists just went with that, insisting it was probably for Miis or data for the random button.

However, that got debunked last Smash hype cycle, as it turns out:
>Miis were never once seriously considered at one point for Brawl, throwing it out of the window
>"Every Player" was made up ESL nonsense as SG (via people who actually speak jap) double checked, it doesn't even match up to how the game actually calls the random button in japanese even. (Omake/Leave It To Me)
>there wasn't any omake/random data in the character files in the first place
>Brawl already had the habit of adding replacement characters that corresponds to cut Melee vets ala Street Fighter III
which just leaves to whether if Plusle and Minus were gonna be split characters like Nana & Popo.
Considering all the Forbidden Seven were just empty Mario slots with NO work done to them, that's just an unconfirmed possibility, just like how they're gonna go forward with "Toon Sheik".
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>>537588696
No, you're stupid.
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>>537592670
Movie autist? Classiccuck? Is he in this thread right now reading our posts?
Much to think about
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>>537589126
Why's Sally drawn like a scantly 14 year old?
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>>537588696
>That doesn't explain why they were completely unable to design a game like it since. It was a fluke.
SA1~SA2 had massive budgets. It was SEGA's flagship game. Sega will never put that kind of money into any Sonic game again. Even IF they had the money, it still would be near impossible because the talent is simply not there anymore. No one in the industry sees SEGA as a glamorous place to work.
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>>537591439
She's gonna shit in my mouth.....
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Its actually a blessing that the specific type of 2000s autism chris chan has made him just a brand loyalist and not the most obnoxious era/characterfag from existence (like some of you)
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>>537590212
done
hope they fix the flying
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>>537591679
>>537591978
Kys sparky
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>>537592851
I don't think chris has ever visited this site, he might go check the farms every now and again. Since that website was literally created for him.
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>>537593035
Not me, and I did not make those images in the first places.
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>>537593053
He was definitely here like literally every online retard in the 2000s but not on /sthg/
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>>537582728
Omg shut the fuck up already you braindamaged retard, we get it you pretend you love classic sonic and know more about it than everyone else and a dogshit game no one played is the best one. Shut the fuck up already, both of you are retards for keeping on with this shit, the fucking shipfags are better than you.
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>>537592670
>JP purist
Kys Krack
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>>537592851
No, why would Chris-chan be here...? Hmm.
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>>537592670
He's a Pokemon autist and huge family goy watcher
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>>537593193
That was 1 hour ago
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>>537593145
>immediate response
That was you, you little shit.
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>>537593339
No it wasn't. I did not post either of those posts.

The response is immediate because I'm checking this tab frequently.
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>>537593207
I am krack's wife actually
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We never seen sparky and chris chan in the same room btw
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>>537593421
Sparky Surge or Scourge
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>>537593445
Stop comparing me to Chris Chan

>>537593535
????
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>>537588696
Yes it does. They went third party and got lazy.
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>>537589168
They were doing their best with all their resources at the peak of their confidence and public trust.
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I heard sonic blitz had a new update, the dataminers did their job already?
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there is nothing wrong with being a JP purist. Both SoJ/SoA can produce hits or misses.Still think SoA needs to respect SoJ more and not pretend they OWN sonic. The poblem comes when everythingfaggots want to shoehorn their Glup Shitto into other versions because of muh validation
Shits pathetic
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>>537590954
That was regular Lara-Su. Jani-Ca is the one that interacted with Silver.
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>>537589168
Its the former. You can argue about what games are better, but there was clearly more effort put into sonic as a franchise when it had to sell consoles.
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>>537593646
>>537593776
grim
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>>537591087
I will only buy if they add Fang or Trip.
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Okay krack
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>>537593832
They'll rather add crossover slop than actually using slots on actual in-house characters. Your asks are pretty reasonable to is the funny part Fanganon. Unlike the IDWfags who swear up and down they deserve to be in. This is the 2nd kart franchise that does this and its kind of funny desu.
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I'm a wind-leaning everythingfag
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>>537593445
Sparky is not white.
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What would be the opposite of wind leaning
Energy-leaning? Like the energy from the sonic movie?
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>>537594572
lightning
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>>537593832
i mean i was anti classic shit until i saw this
now i think they are coming down the line
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>>537594160
The funny thing is classic characters don’t speak and neither will the guests, so there’s literally no excuse other than SEGA’s autism.
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>>537594572
rock-leaning, if (according to godfather sparky) the opposite of sonic is knuckles (who is the mountain that stops the wind)
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>>537594572
Freedom Fighter Sonic is the opposite of Windnic. The very idea that "windnic" isn't just Sonic comes specifically from that
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The opposite of windnic is jokernic, we had this discussion before
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>>537594947
Omg Jeff Fowler?! I'm your biggest fan!
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>>537593658
I think it was just another purge of never-evers.
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>>537594685
That's exactly why I think its extremely fucking bizarre. The way they went about in-house characters barring Miku makes absolutely no sense unless they're "cutting costs", which ALSO makes no sense anyways when you consider they're shilling Spongebob of all things (Which admittedly is probably because of Sega carrying Paramount from filing bankruptcy) so I mean, I get it. But I don't know, both Sega and Nintendo fail to really take full advantage of their in-universe characters effectively in what are huge racing games.
>>537594626
Yknow you reminded me of the fake Classic Sonic leak. I wasn't here when it was going down but, did any fags here get upset about it or was it just mocking Classic fags on Xitter who took it seriously? I will give them this though, it was an extremely funny fucking joke given the state of the classic side of things rn.
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>>537595217
What will they even do with movie shadow? Just have him stand in the background with his arms crossed all film like he does in the games now?
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>>537595328
there’s nothing good you can do with Shadows character at this point
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>>537594160
are you ok with metal being a "...." meme?
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>>537589809
For like one panel
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>>537592670
>>537592851
Last thing i remember seeing from him game related is that he is a Sonic 06 remake truther
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>>537591679
no but this is ok
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>>537595125
It's hilarious how Archiefags genuinely thought that game was going to be their revival.
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its true, i've been jeff fowler this entire time and i've just pretended to be normal fan. Muhahahahahaha
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>>537593718
wow she is so cool...
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If Knuckles is the rock, does that mean his enemies should be the paper and the scissors?
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>>537595475
>luv
EWWWW HE'S BRITISH
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>>537592972
gross
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>>537593718
bro hates sticks
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>>537594686
Rock is an opposite but I would argue the extreme opposite of the Wind philosophy is the metal, embodied by Eggman.
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>>537595125
>no new characters this time.
This is bad news. Who got axed now?
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>>537595449
Personally? I'm okay with it since it adds to his personality of being a cold machine with liminal range of personality without the AI chip. I understand people love it when he smack talks in their head canon or whatever but Metal (in my mind) is just meant to be Sonic's doppelganger but cannot feel any of the liberties Sonic has. Crossworld made it clear that he's still feels rebellious and angry as per Sage's pov so thats all I really need. He wants to be Sonic but cannot be, solely with this stuff in mind. And that's a cool dynamic that works even if he doesn't speak. To add onto it: I think him being mute keeps the niche NEO has, and thats the ability to actually speak and adapt due to his enhanced abilities allowing him to. >>537595426
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>>537593718
Chroniclesfag is... the bad guy?
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Reminder the most anticipated thing about frontiers was that Sonic was going to go thru pain and suffering in addition to melancholy drama. Schizonic / Suffernic was the best part of the game, and clearly more of this more was intended to be written in but got cut from the final game.
Don't be afraid to have sonic suffer more and show it , it works, it is glorious, it is kino, it is cathartic, it adds gravity and drama to the plot, the little shit deserves some of it cutting down his ego, mandates be damned
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>>537595861
no? i hate than she is no longer with us and even soj gave up on her
She was part of the GAMES
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>>537595448
True, but he's more popular than jesus christ so they have to shoehorn him in somehow.
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>>537595219
Thankfully mods exist and are already being worked on, but still it sucks that there's a higher chance Catdog can get in a Sonic game over Trip or Mighty.
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>>537596094
why does suffernic hurt so good
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>>537596152
Lets just hope the skins they add into this game are actually cool and not just Movie/Prime spam.
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>>537596096
>same time
>sequence
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>>537595928
Sonadow is truly the most soulless
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Never forget how desperate Ian sounded when he thought there was the slimiest chance he could bring Sally back.

>Q:With the whole talk of wanting to bring the Freedom Fighters back and all.. I was thinking.. wouldn't Sally, Bunnie and Rotor be the "Easiest" To make a case for? Not only for their cameos in Sonic Spinball (Which was made canon in Origins) but also with how they follow the "Teams of Three" Concept that was introduced in Sonic Heroes? With Team Sonic, Dark, Chaotix and so on?
Ian: The...*sigh* no? Sadly. The Sonic spinball thing has not carried as much weight as I hoped it would and the teams of three thing from Heroes doesn't really matter too much anymore. It has carried over into some other things like Team Sonic Racing but that mostly is carried over into like Team Sonic and Team Dark. Team Rose has a rotating roster and the Chaotix have been M.I.A in game format for a bit now. Vector was with Silver and Blaze with barely mention of anybody else, so it's not great. Sally has the best chance because of her longevity and exposure to multimedia in the franchise. You can at least point at a history of her having been more prominent. Bunnie is maybe a little stronger case just because she has a more clearly defined gameplay gimmick, maybe. Rotor...Rotor my poor boy, not so much but I don't know. I'm doing what I can on my end and we'll see where it goes.
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>>537596314
Metamy is far worse, me thinks.
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>>537596094
Bah. I think you are wrong. Not out of principle or anything but Sonic Frontiers' story completely fails in its mission to set the tone. Utterly fails. The characters TALK and BEHAVE as if this is the darkest, cruelest thing they've ever gone to but their actual dialogue constantly reiterates that Sonic is this shining beacon of hope that won't let them down. This isn't just a juxtaposition but completely undermines its own themes. I can't take it seriously which is bad for a story that wishes to be taken seriously.
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Anyone got the sonadowmy pic, I need it for school
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>>537595991
Agree
Metal it's always at his best when he goes "fuck Eggman, I just want to beat Sonic"
Pic related
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>>537596094
I don't think this is the franchise for you if you want the main character to get shit on. You already have enough franchises that does that stuff. Leave Sonic out of it.
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>>537596314
nah Sonic is basically Maria
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Let's talk about momma foxa.
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>>537596625
please
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>>537596551
>Shadow
sells
>Not Shadow
doesn't sell.
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Two hours left, then back to break time from here.
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>>537596625
nice feetpaws
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>>537596498
you metalfags are despicable obsessed with the one specific metal that will never appear again
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>>537596427
Metamy unironically makes the sense in a twisted way
>i can beat sonic in his own game
>i cannot get sonic but maybe i don't need him
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>>537596551
>my movie
>the whole run time
Boy, if only
Motherfucker appears for like 15 minutes total
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>>537596673
What would Rosemary's fiscal policy look like?
>>537596708
She takes good care of them.
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>>537596441
things were definitely cut, it was intended to be darker and more schizo
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>>537596604
He...he is?
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>>537596551
good
the faster people get sick of shitdowwank the better for the franchise
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>>537596838
>dies
key points are there
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>>537596094
>I'm gonna throb your ass with my smelly unwashed cock
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>>537596910
Joseph Stalin also died...wait...he's basically Maria.
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>>537596094
my ryona folder agrees
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>>537596763
I mean its not too bad in the grand scheme joking aside. But I don't really think Amy and Metal are for eachother at all and Tyson sort of adding fuel to the fire doesn't help. Like I said eons ago I actually think the dynamic of a robot with no heart and a woman with a lot of heart to give is a very tragically sweet ship but I really don't like it within the context of modern is what I should say. Especially since Amy acts really fucking retarded nowadays and she clearly still fucking hates Metals guts. So it comes off as a forced ship atp. If Amy wasn't butchered beyond repair/classic Amy then this ship would definitely be worth exploring.
>>537596738
I love them all equally actually. So jokes on you anti-metal anon.
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>>537597009
The Tails ones puts it very well, but I don't get the Knuckles one.
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>>537596056
I don't appreciate Chroniclesfag calling the western characters "OCs", its usually an indicator that someone views them in bad faith.. I'll see if I'm misjuding him.
People who call western characters as "OCs" usually see them as "less than". All characters are "OCs".
I know it was him given that he was answering questions about Maria.
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>>537597009
i don't get the knuckles one but the rest is all correct
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>>537596975
>"Please Khrushchev, give the proletariat class a chance to build."
>Charges with a Katyusha and T-34 battalion into Germany
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>>537595475
Amy the Bara Magnet

>>537595785
He's Australian.
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>>537593718
The problem with "everythingfags" is that they're mostly just Archiefags in camouflage.
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>>537597373
Amy is really skinny and small so perhaps the big guys like the size difference. Also Australians and Brits are the same thing, no?
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>>537597009
I three do not understand the knuckles post, unless you meant rap music over pop rock.
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Rewatching the first pokemon movie and this is so fucking true it is uncanny
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>>537597271
If they're not made by Sonic Team and don't appear in the games, they're OCs by default. Cry about it.
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>>537597539
I think it meant Hip hop/RnB with some rock elements. Not a musical fag but I think the image creator was being a bit autistic and making it extra.
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>>537597584
What does this even mean? What point do you think you're making?
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>>537597236
>>537597360
>>537597539
Considering it's described as a "foundation", I think it's an oblique reference to how people insist that Knuckles is black in the basketball american sense.
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wonder how jet would react to kirby being as proficient of a rider as he is
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>>537597583
Kind of, but what they choose to do from that is pretty different. Also the first pokemon movie is the best one.
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>>537597683
Yeah but his music isn't pop rock in SA2, it's rap.
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>>537597681
You know exactly what I mean. Don't act like you're stupid. The post was upfront as can be.
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>>537597906
op said "glorified pop rock" so i assume he was shitting on rap
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>>537597792
still the only movie in history that i cried in
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>>537597583
Not to start yet another USA vs JP argument, but... which version of the first pokemon movie?
This is unironically very important
Not only because of the extra scenes at the beginning, but also because a lot of the character's personalities were changed
Mostly Mew
Damn, japanese Mew was a fucking asshole, lmao
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Remember when Sonic had a thing for singing, now it is Amy.
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>Sonic the hedgehog
>main character of the franchise. second to Shadow.
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>>537597683
>Knuckles being the black guy of the cast simultaneously dooms him to be a secondary sidelined character who never actually matters
Damn.
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>>537597967
I would have liked the third more if they kept the parents dead, but TPC forced the director to change it and he left after that. It's why the first 3 movies feel so much higher quality than the rest.
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If you hate Knuckles' "glorified pop rock" you're not a Knuckles fan. Period. This is not a debate.
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>>537598086
I like Penders' echidna lore that Knuckles happens to be part of sometimes
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>>537598086
t. 100P
Don't you have people to shoot at, you junkie bitch?
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>>537597909
How are Tangle and Whisper "OCs" just for not appearing in a videogame?
I'm being serious here. I know when you say "OC" you are effectively arguing that these are no more than fanfiction characters when they are approved and appear in official media. Do you think Sonic media just shouldn't have new characters?
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>>537598006
what makes omega then? shadow's simp?
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>>537598086
I like his music but I don't care for the character.
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>>537598086
Funny to say that when Pre-Adventure era was the time Knuckles was at his peak relevance
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Knuckles biggest problem is not his own identity with rap by the way
Its that they legit don't know what to do with him other than "He is the Unga" and you can see that shit even in movies. He barely cares about being the last one until exposition is needed.
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>>537598352
How, he not only had a movie but even a TV series. Which other Sonic character had their own spin-off show?
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>>537597009
Post SA2 Amy simply isn't a good character so the recent attempts to "fix her" have somewhat good intentions even if poorly executed

Sonic's character changed a lot within the games as well, not just in localization or external material
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>>537598086
i love knuckles and his music but that picture is right, music in a game that came out 24 years ago shouldn't be the end-all of his characterization
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>>537598412
Knuckles usually doesn't angst over being the last of his kind unless the subject comes up.
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>>537598412
I agree and what does picrel have to do with this
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>>537598301
anon I know you aren’t trying to have a genuine conversation with this man
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>>537598312
omega doesn't simp for nor idolize Shadow. he is not programmed to do so. he got a power scouter like in dbz and is stating canon facts.
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>>537598587
It shows Knuckles being tricked by Eggman for the fourth time in this series
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Amy and Cream are better characters than Knuckles.
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>>537598587
unga bunga me strong me stupid. Advance 2 knuckles is a goddam parody and its no wonder why Boom characterized him that way.
They should just copy Piccolo and be done with it
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>>537597009
How is Espio a loser? I think the only one in the Chaotix even consider a "loser" is Vector.
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Sonic Generations was a mistake and it did a lot of damage to the series and its legacy. Every game since Generations was negatively affected by Generations.
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>>537598854
Don't clown so hard next life.
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>>537597998
Amy likes singing? since when?
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>>537598673
cunny overrides
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>>537598630
You're right. I forgot how rigid jp purists can be. What's the point?
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>>537598673
cream has been dead for a long time
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>>537598835
because he is chuuni. He is unironically the biggest loser of that team
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>>537598854
Even though Generations was a celebration for the franchise's history, it was also one of the biggest apology games apologizing for ignoring the classics and every game afterwards was just classic nostalgia bait. Not to mention it was the game where the Boost officially became shit and Sonic Team outed that they forget Classic Sonic's physics.
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>>537598835
he’s like Tien.
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>>537597271
They're literally OCs. I hope he makes Tangle and Whisper straight too because fuck you.
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>>537598891
Enjoy shitty Green Hill and Chemical Plant rehash again for the millionth time.
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>>537599171
jp purists advocating for ignoring the original intentions of a character because that character is western.
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>>537598854
Nope Generations is kino

>>537598673
No despite Knuckles not having anything to do he wasn't completely shat over like Amy was in the 2000s. Though in the 2010s Knuckles became worse and worse. Now I'd say both just exist

As for Cream, no, she sucks
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Sonic Riders did it best
He treasure hunts in his free time, and has autistic encyclopedic knowledge about ancient languages and shit
While still punching people
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>>537599205
Oh I will
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>>537599023
A chunni who can back his shit up? The only "loser" aspect I can get out of him is that he's overly dramatic if Sonic Heroes is anything to go by.
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i haven't been following sonic for a long time(nearly 4 years now)

what good as happened in the franchise since then aside from the movies?
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>>537599258
uh shadow generations
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>>537599110
This, Generations is a shitty meta era game, a lazy rehash with Pontaff writing, and a bunch of horribly designed side missions, not to mention the worst final boss fight in the series.
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>>537599258
Ian has pissed away all the good will he gained from Archie by revealing how much of a hack he is every time he writes Sonic in this franchise.
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>>537599258
Beats me. I haven't even watched the third movie.

Amy Rose
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>>537599243
Yup he should be researching about his culture and be an archeologist
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>>537599258
Shadow is a flying fish
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>>537599243
this looks like one of those big titty memes
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Why should the comic characters be held to the same standards the game cast are held to? It is clear no one else does.
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>>537599414
(by Qiinamii)

>>537596625
Idunno but she probably has someone else handle that.
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>>537599458
Why are we acting like the games are some kind of pedestal that the other media should be "beneath"?
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>>537599243
Riders was one of the main games where people whined "Why isn't he protecting the Master Emerald?!" even though he was a funner and ore active character hanging out with Sonic and Tails and basically showed that he actually has hobbies outside of it.
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>>537599458
because they are sonic characters? until IDW gets the Archie treatment why shouldn’t they
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>>537599258
I'd consider Crossworlds to be a pretty decent success so far. Shadgens obviously being the best game we got in forever. As for Frontiers I think its "okay" despite how mixed it is with many people. Besides that? Lmao.
>>537599458
Because the game cast ARE the main way the characters should act in almost every medium. Its the bare minimum you can do as a story-teller but Flynn is a massive faggot who can't help himself.
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>>537599458
>Why should the comic characters be held to the same standards the game cast are held to?
Because that is how it's always been.

It keeps things consistent so we can weed out all the bullshit when it presents itself.
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>>537599240
It has all the same problems as the rest of its era. The worst parts of Forces and Frontiers are taken from Generations.
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>>537597681
>>537597584
>>537597681
>If they're not made by Sonic Team and don't appear in the games, they're OCs by default.
>People who call western characters as "OCs" usually see them as "less than". All characters are "OCs".
NTA, but the OCs are inherently separate from games characters in design philosophies, purposes, and many times roles - and more objectively, are auxiliary to what Sega intends for the franchise for at time of creation and in the time since. They often have rights entanglements, or their conceits do not make sense outside their continuities (imagine Sally without her kingdom, for example).

You'd have to argue that the Wachowskis deserve to be in a game as much as Team Chaotix to equate them all as equal. It's a patently ridiculous position.
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¡Oye, oso amarillo! Lo has hecho muy bien, pero no olvides que yo onions mejor luchadora. ¿El zorro amarillo naranja es mi próximo oponente? ¿Me ayudas a encontrarlo?
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>>537599594
>>537599631
The game characters are the REAL Sonic characters. The ones from other shit like comics and shows are just outside characters that have no relevance to the full Sonic brand. They're just extras. They'll always be below the canon characters because they were created for their designated media, not for the Sonic franchise as a whole.
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>>537599664
But Sega does not hold them to that standard, at least after Whisper?
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>>537599594
because the other media fans want their shit to be in the games so bad for heckin validation
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>>537599112
Espio's only expectation is to be Espio. People that call him a Tien thinks he should be budget Shadow or Knuckles, lamenting that he isn't doing Naruto shit to keep up.
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>>537599843
he should at least have substitition and clone jutsus though
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>>537599664
>It keeps things consistent so we can weed out all the bullshit when it presents itself.
What are you arguing for?
if alt media does something. it's specific to that alt media. if a writer is writing for a media and is using material from alt media. that means they probably like it. it can still get screened later. if sega lets those things in. it means it's alright. "purism" is retarded
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>>537599594
What is Sonic at the end of the day? A VIDEO GAME SERIES.
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>>537599739
barkoney is underrat- wait a second where are her panties?
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>>537599802
sure
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>>537599831
Fellow Whisperchad I feel your pain.
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>>537598835
Espio and Charmy are kind of losers. To be extremely honest their characters don't really offer anything and Vector is just fairing better without the detective gimmick that's never used well any time ever. Espio famously has no personality, and Charmy's personality doesn't work well with a humorless series like Sonic writing does making him just an unpleasant redundant character.
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lol my bad
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>>537600000
Nta, but I don't even mind persay, its just fucking embarrassing that the guy whos writing the comics also works for the game's story. And he can't even fucking get both of them right.
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>>537581950
What about the soundtrack?
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>>537600000
Checked.

Also, mandates. Oxygen be damned.
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>>537600147
I am not a whisper fan at all.
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>>537599073
Cute bump! Always happy to see new pics.
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>>537600048
Les miens aussi ont disparu.
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the real sonic characters are on sonic channel and the games , the IDW is just fanfiction slop until proven otherwise. This is because IDW writers want their own take on these characters even if that shit makes them OOC.
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>>537600210
The Chaotix need a Sam & Max-style point and click adventure - or at least a VN ala Murder of Sonic.
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>>537600240
I didn't mean anything personal by it. Calling them "OCs" is something JP purists do to belittle the characters from other media and you shouldn't adopt their rhetoric.
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>>537599615
What bothers me most about this is that
>Is not the first time he gets out of the island for hunting (Chaotix)
>Is not the first time he goes out for racing either (Drift, R)
>His appearance in 06 had even less sense, and they didn't even know about the high stakes shit yet
>Yes, both Heroes and 06 had their different takes on "Eggman sends a hologram to Tails and Knuckles to bait Sonic", but at least Heroes did it since the beginning, while in 06 Knuckles is just there because reasons
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>>537600210
charmy is the "little devil" type of character the fandom thinks cream is
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>>537600000
holy quints of truth
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>537599739
>Aún sigue cayendo en el problema de "onions" al conjugar "ser" en primera persona
Lmao que pendejo
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Do chili dogs even taste good
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>>537597969
Mew is still an asshole, it's internally considered a god by Gamefreak and it will only show itself before people who want to find it, so the only way the Cinnabar scientists could've created the Pokémon equivalent to a fucking Deathclaw in Mewtwo, is if the Mew they found in Guyana had consented to having "years of horrific gene splicing and DNA engineering experiments" performed on it's own child.
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>>537599739
Honey the size queen.
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Do hedgehogs taste good? Surely at least one sonic fan here has eaten one
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>>537600835
not bad they’re basically a better sloppy joe.
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>>537600000
見て、テイルス!
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>>537600835
They're hotdogs with chili ladled on top, they better.
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Less than an hour left....
What am I going to do when it's gone....
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>>537600485
the fandom only think that of cream because she's so boring and has no personality. They're subconsciously trying to save her because they have a whole 5th main character who they can't use because she's so boring in actuality
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>>537601162
Listen to the OST until release?
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>>537600240
Oh fuck you're actually here.
So I have been meaning to ask, how do you plan on handling the WESTERN OCS when by definition they change who Sonic is? Tails parents for example completely change who Tails is.
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>>537601162
>>537601341
This is going to be a long 24 days....
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>>537601162
How many hours have you played it? I wanted to try to S rank the three tracks it lets you play in single player, but I played so much yesterday I was tired of it and gave up
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>>537601341
datamine where?
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>>537585117
>It's actually Mizumi
Fucking LOL that nigga was still around?
I still remember when he campaign against Hero speculation so hard to the point he got btfo.
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https://x.com/KenPenders/status/1924883622219378700
love penders selling the corpse of archieshit as a trophy
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>>537601671
Nta, but I was able to get to A rank online alongside collect all the red rings in the offline prix. Got fucked from doing the Joker festival because I had to work for 12 hours so I got cucked from doing it. Overall it was addicting as fuck.
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>>537601379
Games > Japan > Other Media is the rule. Western characters maintain their personalities, abilities, and blood relationships from their original appearance.
Characters from the games do not get any lore from additional media.
Tails' parents from the archie comics aren't present or acknowledged. Sonic has never been a member of the freedom fighters or royalty ect ect.
It wasn't really an objective thought process, just personal bias.
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>>537601674
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-8fcht718TQLny5PMSdNZgT7OrX2qYEg
This should be everything from the ONT. What do you think?

I listened to it yesterday. I like some tracks and don't care for others. Overall I think it's very weak compared to TSR's, but as I said, some tracks have nice music. I like E-Stadium and Rainbow Garden, especially the final lap tracks. I also like the final lap of Metal Harbor. I like the little chants in those tracks, I wasn't expecting them, they're kinda weird at first but I like them

>>537601807
I got all the Red Star Rings too. I mostly played online during the crossover event, so I completed that, but I actually would have preferred to get the highest ranking in online races since I don't like the crossovers
Btw I was referring to S ranking the tracks in Time Trials if it wasn't clear
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Stop shilling your awful age up oc here.
In the bin with the rest of them
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>>537602087
Let the Silverbros have their fun man
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>>537602032
Ah fair, I dabbled on Time Trials too but I sort of just wanted to have fun online. Got my hue hue board ready assuming our progress gets transferred. Hoping to see you on the track soon Anon.
>>537601992
I don't think Sliver is competent enough to deal with a smarter Eggman, but I think this AU is neat. Definitely better than the retarded shit they wanted to do with him.
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>>537600435
Gonna be honest, by causing a shitshow about it, you've more or less given anons more motive to use the term than not.
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Western OCs can be cool
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¦Shadow takes off his limiter rings
>Starts mutating out of control like the Biolizard or like Tetsuo from Akira
>reaches out and begs for Amy's/Kaori's help
>has to live like Clayface for a time
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>>537601671
So far I have 18 hours clocked in, left the game running in the background while I was out lol.
>>537601807
You didn't really miss much, it was a rough start.
>>537602289
Apparently Silver's rivals are the Zeti and not the eggman empire, which doesn't exist??
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>>537602631
I think I played for about 11 hours
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>>537602432
They can't, and it's not because of the characters themselves, but the people who """write""" them, because burgers are allergic to sincerity, and have a pathological need to turn everything into a shitty ironic joke
Pic related
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>>537602301
>Sega actually makes future game
>Shadow comes out of his pod and Classic Sonic appears from a portal
>"directed and written by Takashi Lizuka"
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>>537601572
>Fang when Trip gives him the blowjob of his life.
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>>537601992
>>537602289
>>537602301
but what about silvaze :(
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>>537600435
i'm not a purist and call them OCs too, curb your autism
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>>537602713
That's a fair point.
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>24 hours
>A- Rank
>Perfect build
Whelp that's enough CrossWorlds.
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>>537602982
>>Perfect build
What does that mean?
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>>537602772
Blaze died on the way back to her home dimension
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>>537602631
>Sliver's rivals are the Zeti
Is that true? Im not up to date Sliver lore but if thats true then that's really rough. Sage would definitely be a better antagonistic force for his future assuming Crossworld's lines are used as a proof of concept in the future.
>>537602631
Figured. Wasn't a big fan of the first team stuff, and the flips for rings wasn't that engaging either. However the fact that these are a thing bodes well for the content for this game since these are basically splatfests. They should stick with this to maintain replayability in the long term.
>>537602772
Not huge in shipping but we are mostly taking it from Sliver's arch nemesis angle. Your ship is okay, don't worry.
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>>537603041
There's a voiceline where Silver tells Zavok the deadly six are a menace, and another where he tells Sage there's no empire in the future.
If Sonic x Silver Lost World ends up being a reality this might be the first hint to it.
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>>537602631
>Apparently Silver's rivals are the Zeti
no? he only say they still exist as a species . Sage unironically tells him that she will double down so the eggman empire can survive
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>>537603390
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>>537602772
they can still fuck while silver fights this bitch and blaze is trapped being the equivalent of female knuckles
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>>537603390
wholesome
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>>537603041
>>537603390
>>537603421
It's most likely not teasing anything and it doesn't mean anything. The reason those voice lines are like that is because it is very likely that Zavok and the others are still alive in Silver's future, since the Zetis can live for hundreds if not thousands of years according to the Lost World manual.
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>>537603390
>If Sonic x Silver Lost World ends up being a reality
>people genuinely DO want the worst game ever made
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>>537603693
yeah but its fun , let people have their fun just like vector killing the chaotix to help cream and get that Milf rabbit pussy
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>>537603573
I dub them Mean Greens.
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Zavok is 148 years old. It is theoretically possible that he went on the ARK to greet Shadow and Maria
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>>537603693
Assuming Silver has a normal life span, Zack would only need to wait for Silver to die from old age. Basically the Mammoth Mogul plan lol.
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>>537603796
Why is it a thing, tho
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>>537599258
Frontiers and all stars did it well, the phone games are actually popular, while the comic is promoted at the point exclusive characters are getting merch.
Crossworlds looks like a game where sega actually put effort into it, something whe never saw after sonic unleashed.
We have a phone card game too, that is reviving a lot of obscure characters, we don't know yet if cartoon and comic characters are gonna make it yet.
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>>537603930
I don't know but it's cute.
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i still hate red bowser
Zazz get a pass
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>>537603693
We know, its a racing game so majority of the dialog doesn't matter. But it still sort of tickles our brains and headcanons. I'm more excited over Sage confirming that Metal still has a sense of rebellion within him. So that's neat.
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>>537604102
Why Zazz, why is everyone giving him a pass
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>>537604102
>Zeena
agreed
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>>537599258
Shadow Generations is the best mainline game since SA2.
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>>537599651
>despite how mixed it is with many people
That only happens in this general. People loved Frontiers.
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>>537601881
Prove you're chroniclesfag. He usually doesn't answer this many questions
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>>537604204
Fucking kek
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>>537604102
The six in general really could've used the rival system. The main issue with them is they only interacted with Sonic, from the lines we get with Zazz though there's hope they could be salvaged.
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>>537604173
>He is crazy
>He is violent
>He is fun
>He is purple
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>>537604485
I think it's mostly that he's a twink with negative muscles
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Is crossworlds worth the money?
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>>537604221
do you need to be a pathetic shadowtrannoid to have this opinion?
frontiers was unironically better
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I got to finish my race right when the playtest ended. GGs

Amy Rose
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>>537604440
i liked what IDW did with them in the virus arc and bad guys for zavok but yeah they need to be less one note.
>>537604749
i think so , there is a discount key going for less than 60$
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>>537603016
It means I found the perfect character, machine, and gadget loadout that let me consistently get in the top 3.
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I didn't know calling the western sonic characters ocs was a hot button issue until today lmao
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>>537604760
off-model trash
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>>537604368
This was honestly one of my favorite Archie stories. Shadow got to be something other than just edgy, his dynamic with Blaze was interesting, you got to see Amy's faith in him, Rouge was a bitch, and Omega was Omega. It was bretty good.
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>>537604358
You'd be surprised. I've seen people do a full 180 on the game. Im sure we both can agree Frontiers was fine but that sentiment didn't last long at all for at least 70% of people lmao.
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>>537605082
>Shadow got to be something other than just edgy
Wording things like this triggers a very specific response from this general
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>>537604485
>Everyone's main concern with Zazz is if he even knows how to drive
>In the same event where Cream is a contestant
>>537604950
It'd be easy for Zor and Zeena, just make them interact with cheery/kind characters like Amy or Vanilla. Zomom and Zik is trickier but I'm sure there's a way to use them.
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>>537604990
Meanwhile...
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The funny part is all the Nickelodeon characters have voice lines already thanks to this game. I bet there will be mod to port them over.
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>>537602032
>This should be everything from the ONT. What do you think?
it's disappointingly uneven, but there are a few really good tracks. The vocal cheering for the last lap was a mistake.
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>>537605903
This is cute
Looks like a newborn who can't open their eyes
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>>537605224
It's true though. I like Shadow but come on. It's like if Batman only ever had one story.
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>>537605668
Need Zeti...
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>>537605462
Are you Krack
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>>537606104
How does he feel to the touch
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>>537606156
what
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>>537605337
Me too, at least just a photo of the wheel.
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>>537606110
what is this overdesigned furry
Barely looks like a zeti
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>>537606398
Its hard to find Zeti OCs.
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>>537606110
This looks like something from that one web cartoon people always argue about
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>>537606457
Hell Inn?
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>>537606457
Dante's Motel?
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>>537604780
Shadow Gens feels finished. Frontiers feels 70% of the way there.
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Reminder that Crossworlds will most likely go half off on Black Friday, like most new Sonic games during the holiday season.
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I don't like that aged up sage fanart just makes her look like a generic anime woman with loads of extra details
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>>537599651
What's the deal with the Metal Sonic Projectors anyway? Always seemed like a strange element to me.
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>>537606870
It's easy twatter likes
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>>537606915
>the mime when I forget to hold open his imaginary door
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>>537600068
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>>537606495
did she finally got free for her "pose"?
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>>537606915
>>537607082
Sonic is saved
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>>537606451
there was that one cute girl zeti
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>>537600627
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Western Sonic characters are all OCs. It is always correct to view them as lesser. They are almost always written with very little input from Sonic Team and the vast majority of them haven't even interacted with an in-character Sonic.
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>>537606915
>>537607082
Is there a model for Fang yet?
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>>537587569
you are correct!
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I'm bored, I liked crosslop
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>>537607397
Did you enjoy the Hype Moments and Aura
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>>537598673
Just Amy. I will not ever throw Knux under the bus for Cream.
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>>537607325
People only think they're important because side media like Archie always prioritized the OCs over the game cast and had the donut steels lecture them.
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KnuckAmy is underrated double tsundere shipping
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>>537607262
Which one?
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>>537606915
Jojoesque
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>>537607612
Which one of them is the tsundere
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Mikamy
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Am I really gonna buy Frontiers again on PC just to play that new mod...
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>>537607345
Too tall
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>>537607785
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>>537606915
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>>537607772
DOUBLE TSUNDERE
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Why are people convinced that we are getting more Sonic characters this pass?

Only a handful of other Sonic characters left would be on the same level of hype or marketability as other SEGA IPs.

I fully expect that we will only see other Sonic characters if SEGA does extends support past the initial plans.
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I wish and hope Tails visits my dream like he did before. I want to feel and sniff him again.
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>>537608045
I like this one, they tried keeping it close to the deadly six's style.
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>>537608316
Sounds like they would never soften up then!
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>>537608364
>IDW
That's how you know the Xitterian who made the pic was delusional
Anyway, my personal bet it's on some character from Altered Beast, since that's the one game that Sega decided to shill on Rumble for some reason
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>>537608364
there is a superstars track also leakers that said miku was in also said TW were in
>source?
search yourself
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It annoys me that the most popular fancast for Tangle is the voice of Luz. People ignore that the actress is already the voice of Nine
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>>537608364
Comicfags are the most pathetic group of fans in this fandom and that's saying something. They spend every day of their live begging for validation.
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>>537609328
Ok krack
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>>537609328
Ok sparky
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>>537609328
agreed
if they are in the game sure
if they not also cool , the fact they are in forces and merch shows they care about them at least
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what are the deadly six anyway? aliens? monsters? I never bothered to look it up
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More comicfags should just make their own fanon shit instead of begging for it to appear in the games.
Can you imagine the nuclear fallout if Tangle, Whisper, Lanolin, Sally or whoever else ended up in the Sonic games and, as you would expect, their entire portrayal changes?
Because that's what WOULD happen. Let's be honest. Sega has no incentive to keep them in,character, and their personalities ride off of Sonic.
Imagine the meltdown when "SOJ" Whisper turns out to be a cold friendless Chuunii who thinks Tangle is annoying.
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>>537609646
Meant for >>537584720
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>>537609328
I wish I could be a comicfag, but the comics are fucking garbage.
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>>537609684
Sonic's family.
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>>537609684
They are demons. In japan they are just called the six demons.
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>>537609684
"We have Onis at home", basically
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>>537608364
holy cringe, who is this? Not only will we not get the crying lesbians, even the Sega characters he picked are shit, aside from Beat, since Jet Set Radio has an upcoming game.
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>>537609727
That would be based
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>>537609684
Monsters, demons, whatever you wanna call them, they are literally Oni like from Japanese folklore, but the lamest possible interpretation of them. The name "Zeti" was dreamed up by Sega of America marketing retards, Iizuka wanted to just call them Oni.

This also means any future Sonic Storybook game about Japanese folklore is going to be absolutely poisoned by Lost World shit.
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>>537606915
>>537607082
>still classic Mighty/Ray
Shame. I was hopeful after Bean that this would be the game to finally break the Classic/Modern ghetto.
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>>537609646
Sir Connery is why I don't like Ian and never did. This was before IDW or the reboot.

When IDW and the Reboot came out, it became popular to dismiss Ian for "Not respecting authorial intent". because he insists on making Sonic a resistance fighter in settings where he isn't forced to do this. In Preboot he had an excuse.

Sir Connery made it obvious he was never that respectful towards other creations. Connery was not his character. Ian killed Connery off because he found his design stupid and his character lame . It's true. He is a stupid ugly character that nobody likes. But you shouldn't manifest that as a writer.
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>>537609943
NiGHTS, Samba De Amigo and Monkey Ball are guaranteed.
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>>537609727
>Imagine the meltdown when "SOJ" Whisper turns out to be a cold friendless Chuunii who thinks Tangle is annoying.
That sounds like an improvement, though.
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>>537609862
>>537609850
Huh I see, onis wasn't something I expected at all to be the answer but sure whatever. I am not sure if I like that over them being just a generic alien race or something like that but it doesn't bother me either
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zeti spaghetti
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>>537610334
slurping on zavok
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>>537610213
could you even call them aliens they basically live on the planet
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>>537610334
Definitely unrelated, but it reminded me of this, lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoaRp9S_jQ
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I'm ashamed to admit I still didn't watch the Knux show
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>>537610417
I haven't touched that game, I don't know if there's a cutscene where they come in a spaceship or not. I think I probably thought they were aliens because of how much the game reminds me of Mario galaxy on visuals
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>>537610585
why it’s ass
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This is such a fantastic Zeti design
Also with the Zeti they can introduce the demon realm but SoA are a bunch of retards. FUCK THEM
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How far away does an inhabitable land mass need to be for something to be an alien? The zeti live on the lost hex like knuckles lives on angel island
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>>537610606
iirc lost hex is just floating on the planet like angel island
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>>537610585
>Knux the friend of Jews
No thanks.
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>SOJ Scourge
the sociopathic hedonist that westfags THINK you're talking about when you say Sonic isn't a hero
>SOJ Sally
While Rouge is a seductive flirt, this is a real deal WHORE
>SOJ Whisper
No friends. Not even tangle
>SOJ Tangle
Wears a dress
>SOJ Surge
I don't know where to start on this one because she literally doesn't work unless Redeemnic is around
>SOJ Kit
Yandere for Surge
>SOJ Wade
a caricature of Ian Flynn
>SOJ Sonia
The game is now rated M.
>SOJ Manic
SOA Sonic
>SOJ Sticks
Exactly the same because Sticks is fine as she is
>SOJ Perci
The first ever inexplicable threat to Amy's chances with Sonic
>SOJ Shade
Get your head out of the gutter. She's a generic edgelord first and a cumdumpster second
>SOJ Bunnie
She has a character arc that reads as "anti-trans" overseas and is heavily altered between the dub and sub
>SOJ Tom
Sonic's buddy

Did I miss any? Throw in any improvements.
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>>537610713
the dragon ball comparisons would grow.
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>>537610713
Master Zik's estranged son...
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why did you waste your time on that
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Lost Hex is one of 2 planetoids in orbit around Sonic's world and we could add more.
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>>537610585
same
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>>537610713
Ian and Evan I assume as well have the keys to the kingdom with them and they don't do anything with it.
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>>537610897
I'm an autistic Sonic the Hedgehog fan and you ask me this
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>>537610852
SoJ Surge would just be Sonic's Wario.

>Did I miss any? Throw in any improvements.
SoJ Gold the Tenrec.
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>>537610926
For me, it's random comets coming out of nowhere everytime a random number of decades go by
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>>537610713
The ass look like ass and too childishly cartoonish for belonging to a class of japanese demons. They are an insult to the idea of cool while we have a canon space Satan that looks the part
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>>537607612
Neither of them act tsundere towards one another
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>>537611118
>Gold the Tenrec.
Sucking Silver's CONFIDENT and CAPABLE cock
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>>537611118
didn't someone draw that
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>>537611136
??
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>>537611136
Kids apparently like the Zeti and they've been shoved in games for so long since their debut people just started to like them ironically and even dipped into unironically.
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>>537610585
>ashamed
You should feel proud if anything.
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>>537611246
SoJ Gold would rather fuck Uwuver because of her overbearing onee-san tendencies to protect the weak
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>>537611463
Her type would be girls like Jewel or Belle
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>>537611449
>the guy with the air shoes that can literally fly is the one being carried
Retarded Sonic fans.
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>>537611463
why would someone who wants to protect the weak start fucking the weak
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>>537610746
Let me just throw some schizo theory with that.
>The Ancients used parts of Earth to created a planet and banish the Zeti to it because the Zeti could fuck with their technology.
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>>537611414
I want to believe this but they have very little merchandise
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>>537611717
Don't get me started on the longclaw shit. I'll sperg all day.
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>>537611414
zazz is 100% carried by Sonic Dash
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>>537610926
>>537610746
>>537610713
Thinking about the intersection of aliens, Japanese folklore, and Sonic has me wanting Sonic version of Kaguyahime. Alternate timeline SA2 where Eggman pissing on the moon results in the lunar rabbit princess falling to Earth and subsequent lunarian invasion of Earth. I guess it would be like Unleashed but with rabbits instead of Chip and the Dark Gaia critters.
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>>537611843
You'd just be getting a bootleg Kaguya Otsutsuki instead.
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did she really have to kill ALL of them though?
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>>537611705
The weak need love and affection.
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Evan's Gold would fuck JP Silver. SoJ Gold would want to smother and protect Uwuver
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>>537611843
people would 100% say they copied odyssey even if its one of the most known japanese folks
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>>537611939
just Kaguya doesnt fit the Otsutsuki lore
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>>537612061
Oh no! God forbid Sonic be accused of being derivative!
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>>537612039
>SoJ Gold would want to smother and protect Uwuver
When you say this, all I can think about is the billions of generic seasonal anime where the main character is practically sexually harassed by some busty nympho for no reason even though he's just some random black haired uwu softboy.
Is that how "SOJ" Gold would be with Silver?
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>banish the Zeti to it because the Zeti could fuck with their technology
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>>537612143
is cute!!
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>>537611715
Had a similar premise for an OC's backstory.
The Lost Hex was a vanity project when the Zeti Empire was at its prime, and involved pillaging landmass and megastructures from Earth. The surface people rebelled and pushed the Zeti to take refuge in the incomplete hex. Kind of wanted to give a reason for people to risk trespassing since there's so much ancient artifacts and structures preserved, kind of like a Lost World...
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>>537612039
Funny how Evan was never brave enough to state who would fit Archie Gold's criteria for men even though she was supposed to be bisexual. Is it because guys like Sonic and Knuckles would fit her type and it would cause drama with shippers?

Also, Amy should've been Gold's type too since she's confident and capable, but she was never put on Gold's list.
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>>537612162
>silvazenigger loves derivative slop
shocking
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>>537612404
It's funny that via Gold Evan accidentally confirmed that she thinks GOTF Silver is accurate to Silver's character, at least for Archie.
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>>537612404
her type:
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>>537612591
>runs away at the first sign of trouble
So brave.
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>>537612591
But... that's SILVER'S boyfriend....
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>>537612810
Silver's boyfriend is KNUCKLES, and he likes getting FISTED!
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It sounds like Gold would be head over heals for Sonic
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>>537611843
Unleashed meets Shadow the Hedgehog.
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>>537612869
Hard mode: name one female character who is not head over heels for Sonic.
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I WANT CROSSWORLDS BACK
I WANT IT BACK NOW
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>>537613061
Wave?
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>>537612869
That was why Evan avoided ever revealing what guy she would be attracted to and just focused on what girls she would crush on (Sally, Blaze, Rouge, and even Whisper and Surge, lol)
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>>537613062
You are addicted anon, you must touch grass
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>>537613096
That's simply because she belongs to Jet.
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>>537613062
NO XBOX UNTIL YOU KILL SONIC
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Ahem!

Gold would be attracted to all Sonics except for Prime and Movie Sonics.

Gold would be attracted to every Shadows but Preboot Archie Shadow.

Gold would be only be attracted to Game Silver.
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>>537613061
Maria , because that whore died before she could meet CHADNIC
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>>537612546
>The fucking ellipsis Evan used when she described how Silver wasn't Gold's type.
I couldn't even get mad at that. She truly didn't know.
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>>537613315
Movie Sonic literally tried to kill Eggman
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>>537613501
Every Sonic except IDW has tried to kill Eggman.
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>>537613524
>except IDW
He destroyed that huge mech Eggman was in at the end of the Eggperial City arc with full awareness that Eggman was still in it, and despite the latter's pleading.
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>>537613501
He's not all that confident and capable comapred to other Sonics since he has Tom as a mentor and father-figure.
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>>537613460
It's funny. You could tell that she was speaking as if this is obvious and known about Silver.
It's like if she said "gold loves silly and bubbly people, Knuckles is... not that..."
She has no idea and Sega was too busy making sure Shadow doesn't blink the wrong way to correct her.
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>>537613575
Blaze
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I wish I could have played Crossroads but my laptop is a fossil.
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>>537613575
Silver
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>>537611414
...You know I've been in this community of teenagers, autistic grown men, and autistic teenagers, I don't actually know what actual kids think of Sonic.


I know my friend's nephew likes the movies but that's it.
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I kneel
I squeal
My solo game isn't real
My shallow shonenshit appeal
Can't stand up to the real deal
Weed leaf flattened under Chadow's wheels
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Evan won in the end. Her version of Silver is basically her childhood OC and she not only made him canon but established this as his personality to basically the entire fandom.
The only people who can say with absolute confidence that Silver is nothing like this are JP purists.

Be honest with yourselves, you're more likely to encounter a satamfag than a jp purist.
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>>537613062
who did you main, anon?
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>>537613820
elias... your boyfriend needs you.......
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>>537613817
They liked Sonic Prime, I believe. It's probably why it's DLC.
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>>537610585
You're not missing much.
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>>537613460
who is to blame? ian the hack again?
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>>537613820
Why is Silver so lame bros?
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>>537613817
>I don't actually know what actual kids think of Sonic.
The last time I checked was back in 2017 when Mania came out and while the kids I knew liked Sonic, 7 of the 9 kids had already moved on to Spider-Man, Minecraft, etc a year later
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>>537612012
>"It's alright guys, she said she's sorry!"
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>>537613852
she created an entire fandom that got an entire ooc character as their headcanon ye
its vegetadow all over again
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>>537613852
SatAMfags barely exist anymore. It's just Archiefags who associate SatAM with their comic through osmosis because Sally and the Freedom Fighters are in it, but would probably not be able to describe the show like they can with Archie.
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>>537613908
They do? Well, good for them! I guess Man of Action did something well!
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>>537613817
They like Sonic Boom
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>>537614032
That doesn't sound irregular of kids. Fads come and go, only the obsessive remain.
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>Amy Rose? Why, that's Sonic's best friend! She's never had a romantic interest in Sonic, what are you talking about?
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>>537613962
Both, but Silver's character was always warped by fanart due to his english voice. It started to become a problem when it leaked into official material.
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>>537614181
Are we sure about that? I remember back in the day it was mostly ignored by kids. Not hated, but not super loved because Boom struggled to stand out.
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>>537614276
Ian believes Amy's suitors should be Bark, Storm, Shadow, or Surge.
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>>537614000
Sonic Team wanted to repeat Shadow's success so bad but everything about Silver but his design is half-assed and barely thought out.

Silver was his generation's Infinite, only that he was actually liked enough to keep getting focus compared with the weakling.
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>>537613061
It's my headcanon that the three main hedgehogs are the peak of blobian attractiveness and the only reason they're not pursued sometimes is because something about their personality doesn't appeal to random female characters. Or in the case of Rouge, she hides it well.
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>>537614276
glad this faggot got his podcast income cancelled
hope amygods finish the job
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>>537614181
>>537614389
I don't even know what age group Sonic Boom attracted, but its audience was irony-poisoned, so I guess it was the youngest range of millennials?
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>>537614000
>psychic powers
>girlfriend
>time travels
>fought a demon and killed it over and over
>can turn super saiyan

How can anyone not think he's cool?
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You're missing out if you didn't watch Knuckles. One of the episodes is about how a four year old Knuckles witnessed the eradication of his people and then went on a journey to train and get revenge on Longclaw. He even went as far as defeating Iblis and taking Iblis's power as his own. Tragically Longclaw was already dead by the time he found her....


Absolutely Kino. I'm not leaving out any important information.
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>>537614648
>nerd voice
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>>537614276
I know you're mocking him, but to suggest Flynn is the one who is gaslighting people about Amy is very silly, as his own writing about her in Archie made it clear Amy is still in love with Sonic. And the Tyson Classic mini-series, can't remember the name.

Something just changed after Forces, maybe later around that.
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>>537614000
Sonic Team creatives were more focused on recreating SA2 and Shadow with some high-concept bullshit instead of figuring out how he was going to fit into the cast. Compare Tails with the simple idea of "sidekick" or Amy and the simple idea of "girlfriend" to Silver who is defined by the specific story. The franchise got away from them in the 2000s; Sonic Team has been creatively bankrupt for 20 years.
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>>537614537
>silver
>peak of blobian attractiveness
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>>537614648
His high-pitched dorky voice in english. Goddamn, he sounded like the nerds who would get wedgies in school.
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For the millionth time. Lost World is the first game to outright retcon Amy openly flirting with Sonic entirely. Nine years before Ian would ever write a Sonic game.
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>>537614583
Oh? What happened to the bumblekast? I know he can't talk about Sonic anymore, but did it really die off because of that? I thought Kyles oh so witty humor would carry.
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>>537614648
>girlfriend
Who?
>fought a demon and killed it over and over
Which did nothing to solve the situation until Mephiles came along and tricked him.
>can turn super saiyan
When everyone can transform, nobody is special.
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>>537614648
Because he doesn't look cool when he does any of those things, and Blaze doesn't make sense as anyone's girlfriend. She's from a whole other world. Silver is the same way. You need to add an addendum to everything in that list.
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>>537614775
He's mistaken for Sonic multiple times. The only reason women don't fawn over him is because his personality sucks.
Shadow is the other end of that spectrum.
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I truly don't understand how anyone cane find Silver appealing.
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>>537614908
Someone asked Flynn about the Tails bench porno, Gabs leaked info from the private Discord on to Twitter, and Flynn made a joke about Sonic slapping Shadow's ass.

Take your poison.
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>>537614859
Amy barely appeared in that game and was obviously about to tell Sonic she loved him before she "died". Nice try, Flynnfag.
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>>537614775
It's fascinating how early fanart completely misread Tangle and this tough badass who is just kind of goofy when she's really a dumb goofball who is just kind of rough.
Whispangle is just Beast Boy and Raven again.
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>>537615078
now i want to draw whisper as raven
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>>537615037
Female fans find him cute, that's it.
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>>537615037
Cool action figure who is a Sonic copycat.

It writes itself.
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>>537615182
He doesn't look cool. AT ALL.

He has a weed head
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>>537615182
he looks retarded
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>>537614648
It's not about what he has but what he has done, and people generally do not care about anything Silver has done because it was done badly. That's why he has so many potential fans because they want a redo of those bad events
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>>537615064
>someone asked flynn about the tails bench porno
one, why would he acknowledge it, two, what the fuck did he say to that?
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>>537615064
Isn't that the one where Flynn was basically selling confidential information to fans?
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>>537615078
Do not disrespect Raven by comparing her to Whisper please.
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>>537615078
I don't think it misread her, it was how she was presented when she debuted, but after she started to get paired with Whisper she became goofier and her IQ lowered. Also, during that whole Clean Sweepstakes arc, she acted more timid and was afraid to stand up to Lanolin even though I'm pretty sure that's OOC for Tangle. She basically got the Archie Shadow and Uwuver treatment and I don't think anyone really notices or cares for that matter.
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>>537614648
in a vacuum sounds good
but what is the point if everything ends with an IF. Its Sega job to make him cool
>girlfriend
Holy hit it always pisses me off the wasted their Tanabata motive with fucking Blaze , a character that has her own stuff already instead of introducing an OC that could give him an extended cast.
IT FUCKING PISSES ME OFF GODDAMIT
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You can tell who's really young because the real reason everyone hated Silver has nothing to do with his character and everything to do with his running speed
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>>537615350
Oh nipples agai-
WAIT A MINUTE, THATS NOT SALLY
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>>537615330
Flynn wasn't aware of that comic. The live chat inmediately warned him and he said something innofensive about the scenario.
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>>537615350
Anon why you posting bitches with they pussies out
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>>537613875
Wave
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>>537614918
>When everyone can transform
Only Sonic, Shadow and Silver can transform.
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>>537615423
The nerd voice, slow gameplay, shit story, and being yet another hedgehog all fucked him over day 1
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>>537615360
>Do not disrespect Raven by comparing her to Whisper please
No. Whisper is the Raven of Sonic now.
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>>537615423
Maybe both.

When I was a kid I thought he was cool; as a teenager who took his plots very seriously and didn't welcome any plot holes, I thought he was terrible. As a grown ass adult, I just think he is lame and derivative, with nothing that makes him interesting or worth to keep him around.
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I forget.

How does Metal sound? Does he still have those Olympic fart noises or those SA2 metallic noises?
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>>537615585
Erm actually Blaze is the Raven of Sonic.
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>>537615350
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>>537615472
I feel like people don't apperciate Elise enough for obvious reasons
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>>537615423
How he played got him hate and how he sounded distorted his character to people. But honestly, he was just seen as generally lame because when he debuted people were already going through the "Sonic's shitty friends" fatigue.
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>>537615572
Trip can transform so I don't wanna hear this bullshit ever again
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Funny how there's some lady out there who ships Elise with Paramount Eggman
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>>537615681
There is nothing to appreciate. If you feel horny, just go look for another restaurant with proper food.
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>>537615423
Slow gameplay on an already broken game. He also had the worst level with the balls.
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>>537615765
>Trip
Who? Anyway, only Sonic, Shadow and Silver can transform.
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Silver isn't a mascot character he's a shitty OC, a *third* protagonist designed to stand on his own. Shadow is a shitty OC and a second protagonist but at least he was salvagable as a "dark rival" trope. Silver slots into this "light rival" but they did a dogshit job at connecting him to Sonic in any meaningful way. Like there's this "blue (naive) hedgehog" plot thread in 06 that goes nowhere and the implication that Silver and Sonic have the same soul, but any similarities to Sonic doesn't fucking matter narratively or conceptually to his story or themes in 06 because they're just copying SA2 and Shadow. I have my problems with SA2 story but at least it attempts to connect Shadow to Sonic before dumping his edgy backstory on you for the third act. At least Shadow's lore involves the Robotniks. Silver has no connection to anything; they tried to retroactively give him a Robotnik but Nega's stupid motivation to redeem the Robotnik family name has fuckall to do with Silver's themes and retroactively attaching Sage to him has the same problem. That's why he's stuck in shipping jail because that's all that's ever worked.

He should be the "last hope" of Sonic and his friends but how the fuck do you sell that?
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>>537615765
Not only that, she transforms into a dragon.


Silver is just...another hedgehog. Shadow was seen as interesting because he was "Sonic but edgier", what does Silver bring? Why is he a hedgehog if he has no relationship with Sonic? Hell, the plot of Elise thinking Sonic is Silver is abandoned immediately.
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>>537615765
"Dragon form'
Only SSS can go Super
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>>537615931
Sto samefagging, Redditspacing tranny.
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>>537615931
>redditspacing
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>>537615818
There is a weirdo shipping Chris Thorndyke with Dave the Intern.

Shippers in this place are just weird.
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With Frontiers and Shadow gens better defining their respective movesets, what do you think Silver will get if he ever becomes playable again?
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>>537616096
>Silver ever being playable again
That ship has long sailed.
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>>537616096
He'll do the exact same things as Sonic and Shadow do but it will look lamer because he's Silver.
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>>537616096
make him fast and physics base if sega even tries
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>>537615826
You're really rude.
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>>537615931
>the plot of Elise thinking Sonic is Silver was abandoend
That is exactly what I'm saying. It should be so easy to sell people on "Silver is the reincarnation of Sonic" because Shadow is an artificial recreation of Sonic. Like he's future/ light Sonic. He's part of the trio. Just center his fucking character around Sonic. Christ.
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>>537616096
He's playable in Crossworlds. That's all you're gonna get for the time being.
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>>537616227
If you want to masturbate to some red-headed princess, go look at Ariel from The Little Mermaid. Or Princess Fiona, who is Elise but with a green dress.
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>>537616202
>says the Zavoknigger
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>>537615765
Trip is a better character overall
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>>537616226
Would be kinda cool if he moved like a Tribes player. Skiing and holding airtime to better reach the next ramp.
Man I miss Tribes.
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Shadow would never date a femcel
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>>537616501
Yes, I say so. Do you have anything to add?
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>>537616318
I disagree. The ambiguity around Sonic's role in the world was a good thing and it is bad when the games tell us explicitly that he represents certain mystical forces or that the universe "needs" a Sonic.
Seriously wtf. It's a wonder how windfags hate Forced.
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Trip and Zavok mog Shitver
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>>537615602
The fart noises, unfortunately
The SA2 noises were a lot cooler
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>>537600210
>Espio famously has no personality
No, he tries to make people think he is ice cool. He's a bit of a dork if you look past that act.
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>>537616724
This is why GUN puts him in the antimasterbation cross. For easy access.
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/sthg/ is over.

No more threads.

Thank you all for your participation.
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>>537616349
Why do you hate people masturbating to Sonic characters
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>>537616932
>tfw Sally has her way with you over and over again
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>>537616906
I coulda sworn he had a mix of both in Transformed.
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I think it's weird how Secret Rings clearly alludes that Shahra and Erazor were a couple and there is no other interpretation. They weren't friends. He wasn't her master. She wasn't his minion. She wanted to be with him.
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>>537616817
I do loathe how Forces despicts Sonic, as this flawless invincible hero who, when he is not around, everything falls appart. Especially when Shadow and Silver are both in the game, and the story is so clumsily written it doesn't make sense Infinite can be such a force of nature. Forces just sucks.
And I'm glad they didn't went with Silver being this paragon or whatever, but honestly Sonic 06 already feels like Forces in the shilling Sonic's importance but in a much subtler manner.
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dead meme bro
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>>537616936
You're welcome :D
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>tortured for months!
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>>537617048
Frankly it's better that way. Sonic can barely write itself decently, you want the Sonic series to deal with a serious topic as abusive relationships? No thank you, we already saw Penders do that crap.
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>>537617048
Erazor was a toxic man
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>>537616731
>doubling down
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>>537617279
I accept your concession.
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>kekvok
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ZavokCHAD giving silversissie the full Nelson
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>>537617048
I wonder if that was the reason they had Erazor defeated so harshly.
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>>537617338
>tripling down
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>>537617359
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>>537615946
dragon is way fucking cooler tho
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>>537616817
I agree, this doesn't need to be explained scientifically, but Sonic has some connection to the Chaos Emeralds and some level of divinity. There needs to be some explicit reminder that Silver shares this connection like Sonic, though. People bitch about the male hedgehog mandate but there's a reason that only Sonic, Shadow, and Silver can obtain a true super form: because they're all "Sonic".

Also I've said it before but Shadow should never have gone super in Shad05 without Sonic, it's a blemish on the lore.
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>>537617513
…if you’re gay or a tranny.
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>>537617628
I’m not a silverfag though
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>>537617536
More like headcanon. Regardless, if Silver had a connetion with the emeralds, it would possibly make him a bit more interesting than just being this random hedgehog from the future who conveniently has super powers. An old bio state that people in the future are psych, but I doubt that's even true at this point.
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>>537617746
>shitver is not even special in his own time period
KEK!
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>>537616926
Fanon from his badly translated ninja speak making people cringe in sonic heroes. He doesn't try to make people think anything, he's just a ninja stereotype obsessed with training and acts as a no-nonsense straightman in shad05. Play the games.
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>>537616936
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>>537617536
No, fuck off. Explicitly stating shit is lame. Leave it a fucking mystery you faggot.
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>>537617830
All I see from the games, and Sonic X to an extent, is that Espio is just... a cool ninja, and the straight man of the Chaotix trio. He was hammy as hell in Heroes but every appeareance afterwards is just him as a straight, serious guy. Colors made a joke that he is so forgetabble that Sonic didn't notice him, thinking he was hiding in the shadows. Nope, he was just standing in the corner.
I have no clue where this "Chumby" crap comes from. I played the games and at no point Espio comes as an otaku who deluded himself into thinking he is a ninja; he is just a ninja. Why would that be weird in this series where a classy cat bugglar like Rouge is a thing?
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>Rouge? Never heard of her
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>>537614648
By finishing the videogame he debuted in.
The only way I can imagine a new Sonic fan thinking Silver is their favorite is if they were introduced to him in Generations, the version where he's not voiced by Bryce Papenbrook.
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>>537606915
Mr.Beast
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>>537618207
I was introduced to him in Generations and I still thought he was lame as fuck.
Zavok is a cooler character.
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Sorry Silver fans, but he'll never be cool. It's no use.
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>>537612591
Cockvore
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>>537606915
AHHHH HE’S SO CUTE!!!!!!
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>>537618414
Who the fuck cares
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>>537615350
YEEEEHAW PARTNER
THAT'S A TICKET FOR YA
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>>537618414
this can't be real
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>>537617746
It's hardly headcanon. Shadow explicitly concedes that Sonic is the true Ultimate Lifeform, that Shadow is a "fake" Sonic, so he has this connection to the emeralds Sonic does. Likewise Silver has a connection to the emeralds because he was able to use Chaos Control and go true super. All 3 of them share the same kind of divinity.

>>537618103
I don't want to confirm anything I want people to be reminded of the mystery. Like have Amy do it with her cards somehow. Or reintroduce Elise and have her say some shit about their souls. Or use Blaze and the Sol Emeralds.
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Silver and Blaze are the ones that have to go through a divorce and a new one is the same as a divorce or marriage agreement or marriage certificate.
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>>537618778
You say that like Sonic team is capable of subtlety. Nah, just leave it.
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>>537613817
I have 2 little brothers that never played sonic once but they seem to like the lore, i remember them watching a youtube short about silver
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Blaze has to get the hots for Shadow next, it's the logical conclusion to the lore.
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>>537618414
>I'll ignore that
>makes an entire edit with the twitter posted framed
uh huh
like i find this as gay as the next guy but can we stop talking about it, all the responses is people not caring or being angry, it adds nothing
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"Redditspacing" was a problem because niggas back in the day would do write lengthy walls of texts with multiple dramatic spaces between them clogging the whole thread not because of 2 fucking sentences, stop trying to fit in newfag
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>>537612591
what’s with gold and chipmunks?
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>>537618113
All I can tell is it's from Ian repeatably saying that Espio is a loser in his podcast and people believed him. Now he's written Espio to be an actual loser in the rival dialogue in CrossWorlds and made his fanfiction canon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzLlwXbqvkM
playable britney when?
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>>537618873
Maekawa cooked with Shadow but Silver is half-baked and we need to put him back in the oven so people stop thinking he's a shitty Amy counterpart and other such bullshit.
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>>537619048
Reptiles are black/aboriginal in Sonic’s world. Espio is a black weaboo
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>>537619136
>DX
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Post heroes Espio was always a fraud tho
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>>537618826
did you have a stroke
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>>537619198
This is not something ian made up by the way, espio was very chuunibyou in the japanese ver, the english dub just never caught unto that and played the ninja thing completely straight
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>>537619048
Does Ian even like any of the characters in this series?
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>>537619312
only his own vision
dude wants to turn blaze into Sally
Blaze still bland as fuck in Crossworlds so its another missed chance
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Ian is a Sally gooner
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>>537619048
Crossworlds isn’t canon.
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>>537620024
propaganda props
this is coming from someone who liked their mini series
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>>537620203
Propaganda for what? Wanting to fuck boys with tits?
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>>537619136
I mean, he's just a lamer version of Sonic and Shadow.
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>>537619303
Chuuni implies he is a fake when he actually is a ninja in training and can back it up, is there some source that says he's suppose to be chuuni in the japanese version? I have seen japanese fans say he seems "off" sometimes, but never calling him a chuuni and still calling him cool and serious as a character.
Do you really think Ian writing him as an actual fraud is accurate when he can't even get a basic character fact that Espio hates evil right?
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>>537620441
uuuu....
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>>537620480
And shadow is just a lamer version of sonic
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>>537620516
Chuuni implies hes a tryhard or edgelord generally
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Anon im not going to engage with you because i know you dont actually give a shit about espio and just wants to talk about ian like the good sissy obsessed retard you are
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>>537620559
Actually Sonic is a lamer version of Shadow.
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>>537620661
Anon being chunni is being a delusional weirdo.
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>>537620775
Both are a lamer version of The Joker
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>that was only the first round hope you have stamina for what comes next
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>>537620469
muh lesbian implied garbage
they don't know how to write them outside that
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New thread?
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>>537621110
>whisper is just trauma porn she has NO OTHER PERSONALITY!!!!!!!
>well actually shes lesbian bait thats her only personality
Breathtaking discussions happening on /sthg/
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>>537621141
Nah
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So this is it
The FINAL /sthg/

What did we learn along the way anons?
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>>537621312
Sonic fucking sucks
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We shall fuck again, Shadow
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Get in.
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I prefer Sonic so I don't disagree. It doesn't make my statement incorrect.
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Tails is the most garbage character of the Sonic franchise.



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