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Druid exclusive Moonglade orgies Edition

>News
30/08/2025 : Blizzard is taking legal action against Turtle. This doesn't stop the server, but it may impact some individuals working for Turtle under US jurisdiction ( https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127.1.0.pdf )
17/08/2025 : Turtle's new realm Ambershire is out along Epoch's Kezan, Gurubashi and Menethil!
15/08/2025 : Turtle Wow has just released 3 zones, 2 leveling dungeons, MC extension and bosses changes, new items and updated loot. Updated classes, rated PvP arenas and more!

>Released Servers ranked by current global popularity
Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+)
Project Epoch - https://www.project-epoch.net/ (Vanilla+)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (TBC, WOTLK, MoP)
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Classless, Reborn Classic+, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (MoP, pre-patch and WoD areas in near future)
Mistblade 3 (Sheilun) - https://stormforge.gg/en (MOP Progressive)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)
Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive)

>Guilds
To join a guild, type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, and whisper anyone for an invite once you're above level 5.
<Evil> - Turtle WoW, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, /wpsg/'s guild
<Branded> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, /heals/'s guild (ERP) >>>/trash/heals
<Full Moon Company> - Turtle WoW, Nordanaar realm, crossfaction
<Totally Nice Dudes> - Bronzebeard+, Ascension, whisper Kott

>Turtle
All Turtle addons (copy & paste github links on the launcher) - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtle-wow.org | https://talents.turtle-wow.org | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtle-timer.vercel.app

>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/4Awe3bxX

>Previous Thread
>>537482065
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Yes I'm a tauren
Yes I'm a bottom
Sorry white girls, you ain't getting split open tonight
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Anyone playing on Tauri's Legion server? What class are you going for?
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im going to fucking do it
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>>537636996
>Female NE druid
>Male NE warrior
>Male NE hunter
Fucking cringe
Never reply to me again
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>muh lore
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>>537636969
No, of course, but I was just speculating on how blizzard solved the identity of Torta.
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OP is missing Epoch guilds.
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>>537636996
>so for the druid nelf karazhan set, i'm thinking we get them naked
turtle can be based sometimes
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>>537636996
>Guilds
<Bullies> Gurubashi Horde
<DESU> Gurubashi Alliance
<Thousand Tusks> Kezan
<Pochie Patrol> Kezan
<Racial Knowledge> Kezan
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>>537637357
Simple google search will find that Shena is supposedly Torta, that's it. They don't know much, seeing how they listed Shagu as being a dev for Turtle WoW.
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>>537637357
Like >>537637679 says they probably just looked it up online and someone said eh close enough if we’re wrong we’ll find out through discovery.
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>>537637656
why do you have 3 kezan guilds
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I DAB ON TURTLENIGGERS FUCKING GRAVES
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>>537637880
3 guilds with 1 online member each.
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>>537637880
why does ambershire have 2 guilds?
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>>537638904
There's two?
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>>537638904
an ERP guild and a chud guild, prefectly balanced
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Have been looking for a MC group for 3 days now. Have yet to find one.
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>>537638904
2 guilds with 2 online members each.
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Why do I feel like the Kezan population is fake? Where are the players? I leveled a human paladin on both Ambershire and Kezan. On Ambershire, it was horrible, there were people everywhere, and it was almost impossible to do the kobold quests. On Kezan, I only saw a few people in the starting area and while doing quests. It felt like there were 5x fewer people than on Ambershire, even though they supposedly have the same number of players online.
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>>537640486
Kezan's pop is spread more evenly.
You can check level brackets in /who easily.
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>>537637160
Main rogue, druid and hunter for alts. All worgen males. No, I'm not a furry.
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>>537637242
nyooo
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wtf
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anyone up for ud strat spam?
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>>537641181
Cheesed to meet ya
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>>537641181
>be Nelf boy druid
>shapeshift into a cow
>get milked by Amazoness Sentinels all day
This is lore accurate.
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>>537640486
Ambie is still growing and challenges make low levels look more alive than it is when you can't interact with HC
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>>537641181
What would fem NE titty milk taste like?
What would fem NE titty milk cheese taste like?
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>>537641181
Why are you whoring yourself out in trade district?
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>>537641181
It's literally onions cheese
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>>537641209
Aoi...
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>>537641181
>decades old joke
Lame.
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>>537641181
that's so funny ellinna
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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

NEW CONTENT FOR CLASSIC IS
U N E T H I C A L !
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>>537602836
Sir, which HD model are you using?
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>>537645453
>Shilling for AAA company
>Shilling for BLIZZARD
Greatest argument against democracy
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ragebait
who cares
all these people want is attention. stop giving it to them. good press negative press its all the same shit
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>>537645605
>shilling for shenna
greatest argument against democracy
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>>537645605
Democracy is genuinely retarded. It prevents people from uniting against oppressive forces because they think they can vote it out. It makes people point fingers at each other rather than who is actually hurting them. That's unironically not even including all of the issues Hans Herman Hoppe brings up.
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just disovered they added a totally new zone in undead area, is there a place i can find infomration on these zones?
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>>537645964
level 17-18, im there atm. it's fine. very few quest rewards beyond xp and gold though then again thats its real point. you're meant to come here for some extra xp during silverpine.
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>>537645453
>they stole Blizzard's code
They stole literally everything else but the code. Mangos is open-source.
I hate retards so damn much.
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>>537646280
>gets dropped like a hot potato once people reach 60
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>>537646280
>all of them are warriors, paladins or druids
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I'm gonna chat with you guys while my rested exp fills up.
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>>537646425
this is the cope of a DPS.
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>>537646425
I think people need offtanks
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>>537645453
lmao those retards have been eating cartloads of horseshit for decades now
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>>537646764
I leveled a prot war to 60. its the viewpoint of a pessimist.
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>>537637656
>>537638698
>>537639958
Actual 4chan guilds status:
Turtle:
11 online on Evil
4 online on Branded
1 online on Full Moon Company
Epoch:
6 online on Desu
0 online on Bullies (?)
2 online on Thousand Tusks
1 online on Pochie Patrol
4 online on Racial Knowledge
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christ the vanilla client is pure shit encrusted ass. why the hell didn't they use the wotlk client, you wouldn't even need a dozen different hacky addons to get basic functionally with 3.3.5.
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>>537637656
>>537647068
>Bullies
not even a 4chan guild let alone a /vg/ guild
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>>537647070
the 3.3.5 client is ass
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>>537647068
EPOG BROS?????
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>>537647046
i probably have a warped perspective. i leveled prot to 60 and was adopted by a raiding guild as an offtank (wearing only greens) and was force fed gear like i was a piece of foie gras.
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>>537648341
epoch have their own thread dedicated to complaining about the game though
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>>537637143
Cuntboy bottom or normal?
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>>537646425
this is what happened to me last time. it's also going to happen again
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>Epoop is now fully shopified
>Troondle is about to die

VVall is our only salvation...
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>>537647068
Damn, noone wants to play with /vg/.
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>>537648907
I want to play World of Warcraft, not some MMO gangbang funserver.
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>>537649150
VVall is making the true VVorld ov VVhitekraft
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I fucking hate Discord Google Spreadsheet guilds. You join, and then you have to put your name, class, professions, and race into a spreadsheet like a goyslave.
>You can now enjoy the bountiful guild bank!
Yeah, you can look at what they have through the guild bank Google Spreadsheet; and don’t forget to edit the spreadsheet anytime you take or add something little slave
Then you can use the raid registration spreadsheet, which might put you into the raid members spreadsheet, which then lets you fill in the soft reserve spreadsheet, that's how you have fun! You can't have fun otherwise!!!
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>>537630918
>I'm 16 and I need to lurk more, but look at all these edgy terms I know already
ftfy, kys even
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>>537648341
The third worlders on Turtle and the Ascension realms made me move back to retail.
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>I started eating shit because of random people playing vidya
I see.
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The "hidden", as in there is no quest marker, scavenger hunt through Northwind was a really nice touch. Reminded me of a guild event in wrath where people organized one across the whole world for our guild, even with an enacted escort quest. Would like to see more stuff like that.
In general Northwind was really nice if you read the quest texts, though it feels a bit directionless in the beginning due to the quests being strewn out. Still pretty impressed with it.
Looking forward to Balor now.
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>>537645964
not really "information" but there is a list of new stuff here: https://forum.turtle-wow.org/viewtopic.php?t=11991

the thread is probably out of date but shows you where many of the new areas are.
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>>537647068
You forgot branded. 5 online.
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>>537651597
How and why are female humans so sexy
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So Shenna is blamed for some dime a dozen rinkydink servers with 20 players dying, and I'm supposed to hate turtle now?
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>>537651883
nah its there
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>>537652068
>"so what if my wife got drunk and fucked three guys in college before I married her? me and her son are the best buddies ever!"
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>>537652407
I'm blind. Sorry.
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>>537651883
Not a /vg/ guild.
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>>537652467
what an unhinged comparison kek
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I heard <Evil> randomly invites people from /who and that's how they get so many members.
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>>537654243
Where did you hear that
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>>537655630
Voices in my head
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about turtle wow, which client should i download, world or west europe? i'm from europe
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>>537655978
Its not the server you're playing in, its from where you download the game, which doesn't matter and will be slow as fuck whatever you choose
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>>537655978
china
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>>537656106
alright. thanks
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>>537652068
bro, shenna sold gold on some server 10 years ago. this means that turtle is a scam. microblizz is going to arrest her so hard.
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Tauri will release the WoD prepatch on the 30th of September. Hype!
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>>537652467
holy crap, a whole 3 guys, in college? damaged goods!!! if that's your standard you will in fact die a virgin. only way out would be paying a hooker that fucked 3 guys in the last hour before you.
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>>537657234
Tauri is doing WOD?
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>>537645964
Just do them.
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>>537657234
wowzers, kinda want to compare it to firestorm to see what's more polished
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>>537657301
okay in your opinion how many dicks is too many then?
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>>537657234
I thought WoD was supposed to be bad? I quit retail in MoP so I never played any of the later bad expansions.
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>>537657319
just for the pre-patch, they'll skip to legion in 3 years
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>>537657484
Golden age
>mop wod legion
>silver age
>vanilla TBC wotlk
>dogshit
cata bfa sl
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i just want to declare how much i hate the faggot ass borderlands WoD way of introducing important character with a big retard nigger caption under them, BADASS
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>>537657563
>just for the pre-patch
wait what?
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Tauribros??!?
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>>537657301
t. butthurt roastie with a niglett wondering why nobody wants to take care of her in her late 30s
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>>537657735
ugghh KINO KINO KINO
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>>537657440
It's not about my opinion but rather the reality of the situation for yourself. If you want a virgin, you need to be in high school or college at the latest and be able to pull shy, modest and well-raised freshmen girls. If you're out of that age range, then it's best not to wonder about how many dicks she might have had. Because you won't know for sure anyway and apparently anything over 0 is unacceptable.
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>>537657735
metzen had no choice. he wanted to do a wc3 expansion when 99% of his player base had never touched an RTS
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>>537657694
no one says mop or wod was the golden age. many people say legion also sucked until the last patch. kind of ridiculous to put those ahead of vanilla, tbc and wrath.
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>Golden age
>>mop wod legion
You have to be at least 18 years old to be on this site
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>>537658179
well when i tried to ask a guy for an acceptable range he dodged the question. so I guess anything over 0 really is too much.
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>>537657871
keep telling yourself that. i am male and i have had sex. some were even virgins.
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>>537648765
Normal, what the fuck bottoms do you ERP with?
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LMAO TURTLE IS GETTING FUCKED HAHAHAHAHAH STAY MAD AND SEETHING PRIVATESHITTER LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

EAT SHIT EAT SHIT EAT SHIT HAHAHAHHAHAHA THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR TRYING TO DODGE YOUR SUB FEE FUCKING POORFAG MISER CHEAPSKATES
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>>537658410
Legion came out almost a decade ago
>>537658327
>many people say legion also sucked until the last patch.
You're thinking of BFA.
>kind of ridiculous to put those ahead of vanilla, tbc and wrath.
it's not im pretty half the people in wpsg don't even like TBC, wotlk is seriously overrated. vanilla is a dice roll but the people who like vanilla and the people who prefer wrath usually don't get on because the games are very different.
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>>537658327
>many people say legion also sucked until the last patch
That's because they're mad they did not roll the good legendaries. I distinctively remember being mad at the game and calling it dogshit untill I got my legendaries.
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1-3 warlock
4-6 priest
7-9 mage
0 shaman
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>>537658474
no guy of any kind is going to want to talk about the # of dicks you've had in your butt before. incel opinions don't matter either though.
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ruh roh
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>>537658482
that's normal, just don't end up "falling in love" with some hoe
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>>537658726
it's one thing to say # is acceptable, it's another thing to refuse to put a hard limit on it. this isn't congress him saying what he thinks isn't going to kill all women with a body count higher than what he says. nothing on here matters.
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>>537658671
I don't care, playing Turtle right now, having fun
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qrd on mythic+?
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>>537658410
>>537657694
>>537658327
expansions since bfa are so shit people look back and think "yeah cata/mop/wod/legion werent so bad". Kinda like how when fallout 4 released people started praising fallout 3
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>>537658671
i can't afford to spend $200 on consumes for every raid. go back to donating to turd world bot mafias though.
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>>537659000
This is better than anything that shit ass private server Turtle STOLE from Blizzard.
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Can someone redpill me on tauri?
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>>537659238
18 y.o old server run by nerdy Hungarians
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>>537659238
i only ever played on stormforge and people say its the beta test realm, then shit from over there gets ported to stormforge once its good enough
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Yeah man Legion was sooooo coooooool let's fly in a spaceship with my based lightforged dreadlordino and fire muh space lazer gun and uhhh kill sargeras
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>>537659000
You guys have some weird memory. people sucked legions dick hard when it came out. you could argue it's because wod sucked so much, but to imply people weren't turbo shilling legion is something else it's firmly be considered in the top half of expansions since release.
did blizzard make some retarded decisions? yes. but show me an expansion where they didn't do something some could critisize.
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>>537659238
Very proffesional team, no bugs, but the population is kinda low.
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>>537636996
Hey guys. What's the best way to edit M2 models? Blender doesn't recognize it.
I want to make some model edits to the playable races.
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>>537657234
>level up your professions
>in WoD
lmao why bother
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>>537658984
From my experience, when I was still playing, if you don't already have a group, it's the most metabrained treadmill I've ever seen. Really brought out the worst of the retail community, which already wasn't good.
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>>537659496
>show me an expansion where they didn't do something some could critisize.
TBC and Wrath
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>>537659746
oh well
I might just level to 110 and run some dungeons then quit
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>>537659981
flying, RDF
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>>537659981
nigga wrath introduced dungeon finder and tbc killed the game by addind flying mounts
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>>537659981
>TBC
Adding flying
>Wrath
Babymode pve
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>>537659981
>...
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>>537658984
>M+ in legion
Good addition to the game, no major established meta, no raider i.o until later. Affix system designed with dungeons in mind. some afix combos very cancer to the point people wont play that week, key depletion system not well thought out. I hope you enjoy spamming maw of souls for AP.
>M+ in BFA
No idea what to do with it, use the afixes not designed for new dungeons so it's a problem, azuritegear is nigger tier, depletions and leavers still a problem, raider i.o firmly established. meta in full force, people retarded, everyone throws tantrums and expects MDI skips.
>M+ in shadowlands
you are playing shadowlands
>M+ in Dragonflight
same problems as above, but some affixes made less nigger tier, season 2 introduces the first ever support class and problably introduces the worst meta of all time with the god comp.
also you're playing dragonflight.

it's a loot treadmill for autists basically.
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>>537660064
>>537660147
vanilla had flying
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>>537660476
you're brown
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>>537654243
They don't ask people if they post on /wpsg/ or even know what 4chan is. Anyone can join.
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>>537660674
>losing your argument against someone whos brown
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>vanilla had flying
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>>537660476
only a troon would try to claim such a falsehood. thus, ywnbaw.
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>>537660704
This is accurate. When I joined I wasn’t asked if I was an anon. I have the feeling quite a few guildmates have no clue this thread even exists.
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Paladin has a pink name. That's reason enough for me to not want to play it. I only play boy (blue) classes like Mage and Shaman.
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>>537660476
>2 non arguments and one indirect woman reply
damn this one lit them up lmao
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>>537660704
>>537661258
weird the gm made me post this. >>537656345
to get an inv.
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>>537661662
Wasn’t asked anything. Just said “invite me” and got an invite. Zero verification.
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>>537660704
>>537661258
Because the guild is only advertised here, if any guild member is found to be a thread-foreigner they'll be executed in the Gurubashi Arena by the firing squad
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>>537661759
Without any attempt to verify if you just invite anyone who asks you will get non-anons.
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>>537661909
And then when anyone can invite shit gets worse because you have normalfags (and even anons) inviting their normalfag friends.
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>having people join the guild is... le bad actually
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>>537661909
How does normie-kun find out about the Evil cabal then?
>>537662123
None of us have friends
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>>537662432
yes?
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>nostalcucks actually believed that blizzard would give them jobs if they closed the servers down
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>>537662512
>gave their full names and addresses to blizzard, eternally locking them out of ever being anything in the pserver scene
>shut everything down, handed everything over
>y-you'll give us a job right?
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>>537662512
>nostcucks still truly believe theyre the reason classic exists
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>>537662476
Your guild name is public. Normalfags will see a guild name and just decide to join it without recruitment. I guarantee right now your “/wpsg/“ guild has a bunch of normalfags in it because you retards didn’t even bother to ask questions before sending out invites.
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TauriWoW. Evermoon. x4 exp. Its time
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I hate this game. I hate this server.
Just spent a fucking hour trying to find a fucking tank. An HOUR spamming world chat every minute. Nothing. A few dps and healers whisper me "inv" like they can't read. Where the fuck are all the tanks? This game is unplayable like this. Full of people afk in town with T3.
This is why this server is dogshit. Fuck this. Fuck this server, I hope Blizzard close it. I'm uninstalling. Enjoy your dead server.
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>>537658984
I only played it in Dragonflgiht, and I hated it. I don't like timed challenge stuff though. On top of that, the mode was basically: "Avoid AOE spam in multi-pack pulls and keep on top of interrupts while avoiding a bunch of poorly visualized AOE (that also gets hidden by terrain height variation lol) after doing a bunch of work to get nameplates to not interfere with one another or go off the screen when you have a dozen mobs in one area." And some of the affixes were really fucking retarded on top of that. Felt like playing WoW's version of a shmup with a timer deciding whether or not your run was even worth it. Oh and not everyone gets a piece of gear at the end even if you beat the timer.

It was dumb. I did it a bit with friends, but left to my own devices, I just kept doing BGs and arenas.
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>>537663297
So play a tank you fucking dolt
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>>537663382
Oh yeah, let me just abandon my character that I spent a month leveling just to make a new one. Go fuck yourself.
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>>537663572
You uh just deleted it
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>>537663382
Oh yea let play a warrior? what it's over populated? i'll just play a paladin? what overpopulated? okay druid? what im forced to heal? okay il be a shaman? what it's a meme tank spec. in fact why dont i just kill you.
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>>537663297
im a tank
low level tho
what dung
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>>537663297
>he didnt make any friends to tank for him in the friend making game genre
maybe stick to single player games, blud
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>>537663297
what a good classs that tanks that can get non healing raidspot at 60? i dion't want to end up like this guy.
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>>537663709
Even if they're overpopulated people are still begging for tanks because no one wants to play this role and they'll accept even a meme spec one just as long as a dungeon run happens. People always complain about waiting forever because no one steps up to play the easiest role and if you want to not have to wait for shit then either play one or make friends with a tank.
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>>537659981
>flying (death of world pvp)
>wotlk completely butchering the leveling and dungeon experience my making everything braindead easy
>piss ass dogshit pvp class balance
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>>537663297
Nordanaar lost
Ambershire won
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>>537663709
druids are only forced to heal in regular vanilla. on turtle they may as well be paladin jr with how much they have been buffed to high heaven
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>>537664045
Shaman purely because people will always take them for totems even if they're not a healer
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>>537663826
UBRS. I didn't find a single tank when I needed two. People started leaving after more than an hour of waiting. I had no problem making a UBRS group a month ago. I think Nordanaar is truly dead. I hate that they made a new realm, wasted my time playing on this shitty private server.
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niggas be like, "flying from tbc ruined wow" while they hop on a flight path to their next destination
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>>537658671
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>>537664536
Should've started fresh with everybody else on amber. Too late now though, fresh is over.
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>>537664536
If you still want to do that and need a tank I could tank that crap for you
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>>537664785
Too late. I'm not wasting my time anymore on this shitty server where you can't form a group for the dungeons or raids you need. I've never seen that. How is it that not a single tank whispered me after more than an hour of spamming?
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>>537665238
go quest or do something else and wait for the q pop
thats what everyone else does
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I see a lot of Shenna hate, but no one ever explains it. They just link to a document attempting to compile evidence that Torta is Shenna. We know this, people have known this for a long time, but why does it matter? What did she do? Why are people angry?

I've seen vague allusions to her selling gold or characters or something? I don't know what the culture of those old private servers were, so I can't really speak to those actions but I doubt she is still doing it here on Turtle. And if she is, it's not having any meaningful impact on the economy so what do I care?

Also, would.
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>>537665431
There is no fucking queue for UBRS, retard. I'm just going to drink and try to forget that I spent time on this shitty server. Man, I was looking forward to raiding.
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>>537665645
why are you calling me names
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>>537665701
He's an angry faggot retard.
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>>537665238
I've literally never had any issue forming a group. I can pug and UBRS in like 15 minutes. I do it regularly. You are making shit up to be mad, shut the fuck up.

The server is doing fine, there's just a small dip (about 20%) in players while people have fun on Ambershire. Totally normal behavior for any MMO. It's temporary.

Why are you actually mad? Maybe search your emotions and get back to us.
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>>537665538
You can literaly DM torta on discord, give her your username, and ask for gold, and she'll send you her paypal, its all true
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>>537657694
>tranilla
metzenkino
>tbc
spacekino
>wotlk
arthaskino
>cata
fillerkino
>mop
samwisekino
>wod
fillerkino 2
>legion
APkino
>bfa
fillerkino 3
>shartolands etc.
slop
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>>537666112
Does she sell nudes?
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>>537666209
Since her server popped off she stopped
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>>537666112
Even if this is true, I literally do not care. The economy here is great. The only issue with gold selling is that it ruins the economy, which leads me to believe this is not true.

also, DeAd sErVeR!!!
>pic related
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>>537665538
its just alex trying to get validation since hes wrong about most shit 99% of the time
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>>537666112
Should be an easy ss to provide.
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>>537659981
>tbc
>flying, time-gated heroics and grinds, badge loot, downsizing raids by a factor of 2 to 4 thus completely destroying a majority of guilds or forcing them to run 2-4 raid groups
>wrath
>leveling areas are glorified theme parks with 0 exploration, pve was retarded easy, community went full retard with gearscore and blizzard did nothing to curtail it, cash shop mounts, dungeon finder, class balance in pve and pvp fucking sucked
anything else?
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>>537666005
Go fuck yourself. It isn't my first UBRS either, I formed some a month ago on Turtle, and I regularly made groups or raids on Classic. I'm fucking mad because I spent an hour with 7 other people spamming world chat to try to find two fucking tanks. We collectively wasted 8 hours of our lives.
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>>537666651
>nobody wants to do a poop dungeon 5 years into the server
yeah retard people that aren't naxx ready are on amber, everyone else doesn't need ubrs
is that hard to understand
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Brother...
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>>537666626
25 man raids are superior to 40 man raids in every way and only people who have never organized and led a raid in their life think otherwise
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To be fair it's turdle's fault for not updating UBRS. They keep adding shitty custom instances instead of refreshing the old goats.
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>>537666851
>refreshing the old goats
why would they change something that already works perfectly well
they change stuff that's bad and i feel like they should keep doing that
why rework or add onto something that's already perfect as is
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>>537666832
Kys nigger. 40 raids are soul 25 raids are slop.
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>>537666767
This wasn't a problem until they opened this fucking realm. Ambershire killed Nordanaar, and fuck Turtle for making this stupid decision. I really hope they close.
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>>537666651
For the exclusive purpose of proving your a beta cuck loser, I have now pugged an UBRS in the time it took you to mald out a response.
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>>537666790
Turtlebros...
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>>537666968
>le sovl
thanks for confirming
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>>537666942
Places like UBRS don't work well. The gear was already outdated in 1.12 and turdle powercrept it further with custom additions.
Furthermore it's a 10 man raid so it could be a good first introduction to raids for new players since Kara10 requires you to be decently geared first of all.
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>>537666832
im not saying they arent better, im saying the decision to make ALL raids 10 or 25 man was an awkward transition for every raiding guild who needed to downsize their raid groups
25 man also not even being a clean split from 40 meant that guilds needed to shave 15 people out of a raid group, something that is 5 men too many for 10s and 10 short for 25 mans. numerically they shouldve been 10 and 20 man raids so that groups couldve divided their raids up evenly
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>>537667054
Kara40 was added for bored Naxx loggers so they have something to do. It's not intended to be the "T4" content since that'll be Grim Batol.
Kara40 is basically an overtuned raid for people who already have full bis gear.
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wtb turtle level 60 t3 with completed kara40 attune horde priest, i work so i pay well, add me on discord inex0903 to discuss price
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>>537666370
It was a joke bro
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>>537646425
>>537648828
Please refer to >>537663297
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Where do people get 80g by level 40 ..
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>>537668761
sell some copper ore poor ahh nigga
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>>537668761
ive always managed to be near it by the time i hit 40 but ive always played slow and steady so maybe thats why
if you cant afford it then just keep trucking on until ur 50 or something at whihc point ull make a crapton of gold from just doing quests and stuff. uve come this far u can make it another 10 lvls
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>>537668448
you still want a tank?
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>>537660704
Proofs?
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>>537649528
Is such on turtle?
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>>537669216
When I joined the only thing they asked me was if I was transgender
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>>537661258
stfu ur just some tranny from <branded> blatantly attempting to false flag based <EVIL>
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branded will raid, evil will die before the raids open up!
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>>537669749
Outlook not good
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total turtle tranny death
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>>537670149
it has been mathematically confirmed that evil chuds are mostly from 9gag or normalfags who thought the guild name was cool, so it- it doesn't count, ok???
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>>537670149
nooooo
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>>537670149
Half those people in Evil aren’t even anons
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>>537670149
>Branded got to 60 first
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>>537670725
Type /who g-"Evil" and go ask 4chan riddles to everyone one by one, and screenshot a proof for a single guy, can't be that hard schizo-kun
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>>537664554
>t. mongoloid troon
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>>537663297
I only tank for my guild, pugs are just nasty
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>>537669504
It never happened.
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>>537670149
branded bros…


i dont feel so good…


this is giving flashbacks to fmc…
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>>537667124
>Places like UBRS don't work well.
this is actually a solid and reasonable take. LBRS/UBRS could be improved quite a bit, itemization upgrades, attunement modernization, etc. this would be a good place to focus their efforts in some future patches, and easy to execute as well. no need for new level geometry in these dungeons, just make them worth running again.
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how many <evil> and <branded> people are fmc rapefugees? i know telol is in <branded>
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>>537637552
>>537637656
we don't anything to do with /wpsg/
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>>537672586
all of them
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>>537672586
none of them
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>>537671827
it's heartening to see that troonism has become quite unpopular in the thread. chud anons won bigly.
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never join a 4chan guild its always aids and fail
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>>537672586
some of them
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>>537672586
most of them
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>>537671325
>do my work vetting my guild for me
If you make me guildmaster I’ll do it. Otherwise do it yourself.
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>>537667124
>>537671839
What do you mean "doesn't work well"?
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always join a 4chan guild its always fun and a good time
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>>537673840
>If you make me guildmaster I’ll do it.
ok
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>>537673843
I explained it in my reply.
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>thought I had a good farm with enchanting
>nobody buys my small glimmering shards
Glad I only did a few runs of this.
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>leveling my warlock twink 28 right now
>1v1 shit 29 mage in WSG
>use the SUCC to completely shut down healers while I dot up whatever is attacking me
holy shit I'm having FUN
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>>537674139
You just want a better gear and an easier attunement?
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>>537674296
chinks tanked the enchanting shard market years ago by 24/7 botfarming instances
turdle never did anything to stop it
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>>537663205
yes come back you stupid furry!
you can finally stop asking legion when
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>Be on Epsilon
>Spend a decade+ working on a phase that I've owned since the days of RPH
>host it on and off with restrictions
>Every single time without fail, almost immediately after I decide to start publicly advertising it, out from the woodwork pops at least one other phase that claims to do almost the exact same thing
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>be horde
>party up with a paladin for one quest
>buff him
>part ways
>chain ganked by alliance members for the next 20 minutes because buffing a pvp-enabled member of the other faction also puts you in pvp for some reason
Alright fuck you guess I won't help people then
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>>537674580
The attunement is perfectly fine but the gear is entirely outdated.
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>>537675076
this happened to me on priest more than once lol
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>>537675076
idk why turtle wow has fake pve where you can still get killed at any time
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>>537672586
I’m former FMC and I joined neither.
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>>537672586
I'm former FMC and I joined <Evil> bit will leave once raiding start for a proper raiding guild.
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>>537663348
kek
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>>537675076
I'm always hyperaware of if my PvP crest appears next to my portrait
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>>537677069
redpill me on fmc and evil.
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>>537674617
>realized I wrote glimmering instead of radiant
Whoops. Anyway, that's fucking gay. There weren't very many of those shards on the AH, and they're listing for a good price. It's hard finding shit to farm as a rogue when pickpocketing seems to be fucking broken.
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>>537675076
>>537675886
you guys are huge huge huge faggots
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>>537669069
Just annoying people flying past me and killing the mobs I need.
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>>537677069
Why don’t you think Evil will raid?
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>>537677960
t. pvp faggot
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>>537677069
<Evil> will raid.
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>>537677069
<Evil> Will raid.
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>>537675239
i am the anon that mentioned the attunement after agreed that the gear is outdated. UBRS as it stands is pointless. the gear is worse than turtle's custom 5-mans dungeons that can be queued with the dungeon finder. and yes, the attunements could be a lot easier for content that is entirely skippable. it's easier to join a ZG or AQ20 raid than dealing with UBRS.
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>>537677960
We have to stick together!
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this teleport guy seems like a cunt faggot
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>>537678309
>>537678658
>>537678774
They might raid, but I don't want a repeat of FMC where people sucked. There was a ton of drama, and people were pugging left and right. I don't want to spend 3 hours in a simple raid. I don't want to play with people who don't use consumables and don't enchant their gear.
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>>537677914
as a rogue the only somewhat decent farm you could do was farming hfq bosses with enchanting and mining or doing dm north tribute
those troons buffed dungeon bosses recently though and back then you needed near bis gear to be able to do it
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>>537670149
I am going to join <Branded> and be the maintank raidlead
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>>537679009
somebody talked about wanting consumes and enchants enforced a few days ago but gm would have to approve
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>>537679009
sounds like you want to be a GM without any of the responsibilities
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how does a lv60 die to vancleef
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>HARDCORE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>537680283
I just want to raid with people who respect others' time.
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>>537680583
yeah you see some funny ones sometimes
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>>537680583
NONE MAY CHALLENGE THE BROTHERHOOD
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>>537671351
>no argument
there there
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>>537680583
Wait, you can still lose your char at level 60?
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>>537681323
you get to choose whether you finish hc or continue on lunatic mode or smth
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>people can look up what spec I am and call me out for not queuing as healer
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>>537680583
The brotherhood shall prevail.
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What dis?
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>>537681476
his cause is righteous
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>>537681654
dual spec
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>>537681654
Can't use it if not yours
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>>537679009
<Evil> will be different.
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>>537679009
<Evil> Will be different.
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>>537681942
<Evil> w
>>537682086
<Evil> W

holy samefag
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>>537681898
You can, you just need to have one yourself.
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>>537665538
Basically shit happened 10 years ago and some people don't have anything else going on in their lives.
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>>537680937
Why suggest rules to add to the guild to make this a reality?
in fact just post them here and i'll make sure the GM see it's personally.
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What addon lets you view others' talents?
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>>537683256
right click > inspect
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Evil GM here: spoiling or looking up the boss mechanics before the fight isn't allowed, showing up late will be allowed, we won't waste gold on consumables, and we'll do a short RP break between each boss fight, ok for everyone?
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>>537679252
I have seen the HFQ farm mentioned, but yeah, I haven't even attempted it as a fresh 60.
>mining
Fuck me. I'm herbing+ench. Guess it's all the same since I can't do HFQ and herb stacks do decently. The Black Lotus chance on gather has been nice too.
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>>537683390
Oh, I"m a fucking retard. That was never a thing in inspect before, so I didn't even see look at the tabs.
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>>537683646
Is it cool if I pug from <Branded>?
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>>537679252
any good farm as hunter?
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>>537665538
Here's a rundown, I guess.
Nostalrious is a private server made by some frogs, it's the biggest vanilla server of it's time.
It's notable because up to this point people had been glazing wotlk.
nost then implodes under a blizzard c&d hoping to get jobs at blizzard.
YouTubers make videos, including well known racist johntron.
This is relevant because it's the first time normies really hear about private servers, wod had just happened and nostalgia is running high.
somehow, maybe expecting a betrayal from blizzard the cucked nost devs, upload their core on GitHub.
A core is basically the heart of the server, it means someone can now host their own version of nost, with the same bugs and code.
Cores are people reverse engineering how wow should work.
>Enter the gold era of private servers
Elysium, Lightshope.
This era spawns legends such as, crogge, shenna, alexsensual, whitekidney, esfrand, stayracist, tipshout, big musk,
shenna snatches up nost code hosts her own server, people donate because there's a huge outpouring of support and blizzard hate. shenna uses this money to go on holiday instead of upgrading the servers. whitekidney (well known gold seller) and admin on Elysium, accuses shenna and crogge of gold selling and working with the Chinese, he steals the entire server and bricks their backups launches lightshope.
His entire position hinges on crogge and shenna being crooked.
Moral or not it works, esylium basically dies, lightshope steals its player probably due to the fact he bricked their backups, and they had to roll back 2 weeks.
Alex predicts all of this before it happens, that's notable because alex is like some retard who has moments of clairvoyance.
Whitekidney doesn't monetize the shit out of his server, leading people to believe Elysium devs really were corrupt. Spawning level 60 characters and selling gold.

How did you guys figure out torta was shenna? is there any real proof?
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>>537684218
tl;dr
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>>537684332
look at this cool monkey
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>bound Seduction to a key
>AB just popped
>hit 29
I'M READY TO FUCK
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I got a raptor!
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>>537685468
have fun nonny!
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does turtle have cool pvp gear?
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>>537685532
Cute raptor
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>>537685615
similar to vanilla in that regard, sorry epochbabs
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>>537685532
tranny
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Curse of Exhaustion kinda sucks
>-10% movement speed debuff
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ngl the shota spam over /epog/ is kinda enticing, might switch to their server
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WHERE DEM NITE ELF WOMYN AT
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>>537689390
Away from you, with that non-existent bulge.
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>>537689390
It might sound crazy but I have a guild for you
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>>537688668
thats not a thing
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I’m already Branded.
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>>537689605
???????????
it's a tier 3 affliction lock talent on turtle wow
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<Evil> or <Branded>... I can't decide...
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>>537685532
Tristana!
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>>537689870
I'll join whatever guild Asalys joined!
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>>537689870
Type into City Guild Recruitment that you're a cool anon from 4channel and you're looking for a guild. Accept the 4th suggestion.
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>>537689870
Evil and Branded will raid together, so it doesn’t really matter which you pick.
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>>537690224
is that how i get into pupper pals
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>>537690154
Pupper pals
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>>537690154
me too!
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>>537683762
you can still pick the 2 chests in hfq I guess but dunno if it's worth the time if can't mine the dark iron
>>537683969
you can do dm north tribute and potentially mine arcanite in zg if you have a turtle pet or something
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>>537651597
I will be starting Northwind once I make my way to the zone.
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>>537681654
Inferno should have unique message
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>>537683646
I'd join if this was real
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Is chromiecraft a decent server?
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>>537694006
Yes, but I wish there was a bit more people on it.
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>>537691198
>you can do dm north tribute
I looked up a run on youtube and it looks stupid, I'm not doing that.
cant even grind gold on normal mobs because I out-threat me pet. the struggles of a MM hunter
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https://files.catbox.moe/tu9q19.7z
FlightMap was deleted so here's an updated archive with the deleted repositories I had mirrored.
git clone <repo.bundle>
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>>537694085
Nice, i was looking for a wrath PVE server to play with a friend, i'll be checking out
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Is there any interest in a wotlk guild somewhere? I have the itch again but don't really feel like playing icecrown and blasting heroics with full bis smourne weirdos and then quitting in a week.
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Is beast master or marksmanship better on turtle?
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>>537696089
all I know is you dont want to level as marksmanship
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>>537696089
bm for sure
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Fools! Our cause is righteous!
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>>537684218
The lawsuit connects Torta to Shenna, since it basically doxes people.
As someone who didn't pay much attention to private servers until like a year ago, this shit sounds like ancient drama some people got really obsessed with, which isn't surprising considering this game has some actual deranged people playing it. Not that I don't condone shitty behavior, but basing your personality around it is just pathetic and as long as the server is good, I don't really care.
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When are they going to readd the barber...
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>>537699374
Just have a Forsaken npc that scrambles your body (sends you to character redo). Alliance can get fucked.
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>>537696089
SURIVAL MELEE
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>2025 — September 3 [Build 7230]
>https://forum.turtle-wow.org/viewtopic.php?t=21645
>Added the Onyxian Drake as a drop from Onyxia.
>Added the Emerald Drake as a drop from Solnius.
New shit to farm.
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>>537698270
Waking up one day to find out the warrior you've been levelling for 2 weeks, because the entire server has been stolen is an experience unique private servers and not one I've ever happened since.
Understand though, it's less people care about who shenna was but more people correctly guessed torta was shenna 8 years ago only to be told they were schizo and wrong. and now the schizos find proof they were right.
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i fucking healed a dungeon and my party ditched me instead of helping clear my mission
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>>537700040
still not running molten core lol
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>>537700040
>still doing updates without shagu
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>>537700442
It's astonishing that it's like the third week of nerf and it's still fucking cancer. Can't wait to see the shit show that it will be on Ambershire with undergeared people.
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>>537700442
Not a lot of people 60 yet.
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>>537700040
wtf i thought these niggas would be scared shitless and we would never get another update again
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>>537700745
Sheena is untouchable as long as she never leaves stalsk 12.
>hello yes we'd like to extradite this private server owner
>russian ambassador: sure stop supplying ukraine aid
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>>537700267
And thus, the schizo spiral continues. I kinda get it, but I'm going to continue not giving a fuck.
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>>537701123
As a russian I can tell you that Shenna last name is ukrainian.
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>>537700631
MC is perfectly doable
gitgud faget
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>>537701123
does she actually do any dev work
i thought she was just admin person that organised it
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>>537701230
>As a russian
how's the AIDS pandemic going?
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>>537701217
it will never stop unless the server vanishes. yea feel free also if you don't know who people are talking about don't ask.
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>>537701260
FMC with naxx carries couldn't even clear MC.
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>>537701593
I can do it with pugs
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>>537701527
Wasn't the anon who made the first post, but I would lie if I wasn't at least a little curious. Will follow your advice though
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>>537670149
Who do I talk to about being evil?
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>>537701593
It could though
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Ran scarlet monastary 15 times didnt get a single mail piece
Thank you very cool guess ill keep using my deadmines gear then
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>>537701484
We're in a wow classic thread on 4chan. He's a virgin how would he know.
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>>537701936
We're full, you'll have to find one of us in the open world with and give an offering
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Alex vs blizzard pt3 has just dropped, this arc is going good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn6vjbBqQ-8
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>>537701484
That's it, I'm moving to... the autonomous region of Kosovo?
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>>537701230
She might be but blizzard legal put her in moscow.
so she was probably living in Russia before the war.
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>>537702686
this is why i don't run any dungeon with more than 1 person who wants the same loot as me.
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>>537702686
>know to never run anything with a paladin
>somehow forget that shamans also wear mail because im an ally tard
>invite a healer shaman
>he fucking needs on the herod shoulder and wins it
Lesson learned
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>>537701484
Russia has compulsory HIV testing while in the progressive West it is racist to say that somebody has AIDS.
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>>537703327
honestly a great idea that will only improve the populace. america should follow example, but then the gays will say you are marginalizing them.
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>>537679925
are you gay or transsexual? trannies don't make good tanks. just ask FMC.
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>>537703490
Internet troons just use those HIV maps out of context to shit on Russia while in fact that West is much more pozzed since homosex has been completely normalized.
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>>537679009
>I don't want to play with people who don't use consumables and don't enchant their gear.
what if they use consumes but don't enchant their gear? there are legitimate reasons not to want to enchant shit you expect to replace in that raid, with +5-10 to a stat.
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>>537703729
Reminds me of those retarded nigger guilds that expect new recruits to dump thousands of gold on enchanting their preraid gear they'll replace in a week instead of spending it on consumables or CC reputation.
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>>537703327
>Russia has compulsory HIV testing
lol. that's cause you have the highest HIV rate in europe, gospoxir ivanna
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>>537703729
It's vanilla you will take months to replace shit.
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>>537703667
>homosex has been completely normalized
Unlike the "trad gay rape", right Ivan?
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>>537703969
IATA. there are some cheap and good bang for the buck enchants that makes sense to get the earliest you can... but i would /gquit immediately if someone told me to be fully enchanted on pre-raid gear, when pre-raid gear isn't even required to clear ZG. the last guild i was in cleared it with half the people being fresh 60s in leveling greens.
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>>537703981
>>537704087
I'm not Russian or live anywhere close to Russia but you troons should fuck off back to /pol/.
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>>537704282
>I'm dickriding russia without being russian
>fuck off back to /pol/
Oh the ironing!
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>>537704052
lol, no. it's not vanilla and it doesn't take months to replace gear if you are actively raiding multiple times a week. also, power creep. you can expect multiple upgrades a week on a decent casual raid schedule on turtle.
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>>537704282
Sure thing, Masha aka Mikhail. Also, you can't call me a troon after i called you a troon. Not how it works.
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>>537704394
>posts retarded /pol/ bait
>oh woe is me
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>>537704574
How the fuck you manage to be a Russian shill and yet fail to have any knowledge about /pol/? It's your first day here, Ivan?
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You're playing on a ruski server by the way but of course the low IQ internet activism can only extend so far.
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>>537691198
>you can still pick the 2 chests in hfq I guess but dunno if it's worth the time if can't mine the dark iron
Doubt it. I'll give DME a shot when I'm free later since it has 3 types of herbs, books, a chest or two, and potentially Lashers and Felcloth if they don't rape my face. Thanks, anon
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How do I get a cutie eastern euro wife?
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>>537705172
Be rich, they're golddiggers
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>>537705172
Traffic one.
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>>537701230
>As a russian I can tell you that Shenna last name is ukrainian.
has to scroll up to see how this circle jerk started. russia still has a high incidence of this last name. so suck it, zigger.

ukraine, does have a higher rate of "Savko," but you say it's not even a real country and they are all russian anything. there is no such thing as a ukrainian. consider your pathetic self-hating russoid shilling attempt debunked.
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report those nafotroons and move on
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>>537705689
I don't see him saying that "it's not even a real country and they are all russian anything". Are you mentally ill?
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THIS is the goblin piece of shit leading the lawsuit
I finally finished reading it fully and maybe this is how all american lawsuits are but it seems nonsensical
on one point it references a fucking REDDIT THREAD as "proof" the users of turtle know and acknowledge they are breaking the law by playing
it blatantly lies on multiple times, like mentioning turtle charging a "donation" fee to play on the server, or the turtle servers being aimed primarily to north america (according to who?)
is this really the peak of (((goblin))) legal ability?
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>>537706737
nafotroons cannot help but sperg out about their gay little conflict 3000 miles away from where they live any time a single slavshit name is mentioned
just report and move on
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>>537707404
>oy vey
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>>537666790
Good luck getting revered rep in TBC and hating every single moment of your life doing it

>>537667054
>>537667293
Literally the best example of shenna scamming her playerbase
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>>537707404
IP lawyers have gotten lazy after not being challenged on taking down ROM websites, Nintroon fan games and GTA source ports.
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>>537707404
The case feels like it was hastily slapped together in response to akalix directly replying to blizzard's twitter after the Midnight announcement.
Defending IP can be a bit weird sometimes, because even if you don't personally care about it you still need to defend your IP or it can hurt you in a future case where you really do need to stop someone stealing from you. I forget the case that set the precedent, but there was a company that got fucked because it was found they hadn't made efforts to defend their IP in the past.

It seems likely that advertising so brazenly on twitter and piggybacking blizzard's own advertising pushed turtle beyond a point where blizzard could reasonably claim they had no knowledge of the server. Now obviously, they know most of the private servers, but when it's small potatoes you simply don't bother. It becoming so visible means that they have to be seen to take action or they risk weakening their legal claim to the warcraft IP.

This is also why Nintendo is very trigger happy with lawsuits regarding their IPs and why they tend to happen when knowledge of the offending romhack/fangame gets big coverage.

I'll see if I can find the previous case I'm thinking of.
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>>537708147
if you can find the actual lawsuit document that would be great, it would be good to compare with this one
reading it fully I started to believe the whole "its fake from a random" because of how poorly its written
like why the fuck do you start talking about wow mounts and pets in your fucking lawsuit, a boomer judge isnt gonna understand shit
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It's over.
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>>537708147
Uhm, excuse me, but there is a severe lack of buzzwords and schizoing in your post, while also containing reasonable and logical statements.
Are you okay, anon?
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>>537708478
90% of legal papers are basically throwing around random jargon and making it sound like they raped your dog and salted your fields because otherwise thered be no point to filing the suit
its why blizzard had to state that twow has caused "irreparable damage" and offers an "inferior product" that may wrongly color perception of the company. or mentioning that you can donate to buy random shit in a store
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>>537708478
A boomer judge is going to understand it, because the whole court filing is phrased in such a way as to try preying on his empathy as much as possible.
>we're just a smol uwu bean business and these scammer freaks are stealing our lifework away from us!
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Considering the remade dual wield specialization, is the hit cap for fury warriors still 9%?
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>more MC nerfs
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>>537708147
Do initiating the case against turtle set the precedent though or will they have to then follow up on other servers
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>>537709093
Still not enough.
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>>537708478
Ok, the case isn't quite analagous to the situation, but it's
>Haughton Elevator Co. v. Seeberger (1950)
Otis ended up losing the rights to term Escalator due to them becoming so widespread.
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>>537708729
>Are you okay, anon?
I'm posting on /vg/
Of course I'm not okay

>>537709145
They'd have to refresh it but they won't bother unless the server becomes too big/loud. Some small server can be handwaved as being too small to be noticed, so would be difficult to leverage against them.
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>>537709829
>I'm posting on /vg/
Good point. Glad you can still form coherent thoughts.
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>>537709829
Could the people that made turtle that arent from the us just rebrand the server and continue then
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>>537710559
NTA would they even need to rebrand? the worst the US could do is block certain payment processors.
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>bro we're gonna make a private server with a shitload of new content and class changes and new mechanics
>on the busted ass 2006 vanilla client that you can't even use macros with
but y tho?
surely if you are capable of creating multiple brand new zones and raids you are capable of backporting vanilla classes on the wrath client or something. vanilla client is such a brutal filter.
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>>537701260
it still takes too long
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>>537711126
you can use macros just install this random.dll on your pc bro.
the decision to use the 1.12 client is perhaps the most retarded choice turtle ever made, they probably picked 1.12 to be more authentic but it's ended up fucking them over.
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>>537711126
epoch spent 5 years backporting tbc to wotlk client and you see how well they did
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>>537711356
the ue5 thing is just gonna be some bullshit graphics layer presumably correct? assuming it ever happens of course.
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If you guys know about us law can you explain this to me
So i know its filed as a RICO trial and that implies the ability to extradite people from countries that are willing to cooperate with the american legal system which is some eu countries
But can you literally just file a RICO trial and extradite anyone to the us from one of those countries? Do you not have to first prove that its a RICO case are those countries just willing to give up one of their citizens like that
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>>537711356
I prefer 1.12 over the wrath client
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>>537711740
why are you even asking this question here you dunce, literally no one will be able to correctly answer you question unless they are an actual lawyer. the best answer you can expect it something some other anon had vomited out of chatgpt.
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>>537711740
Yes you're right, best case scenario if it goes like this it'll take a long time before anything happens
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>>537711763
you prefer having dogshit macro functionality and much worse settings and interface features?
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>>537712018
Werks better with mods and addons
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>>537711126
I held off on playing twow for the longest time because of the built in lag on vanilla, I regret it because I've played turtle longer than any other server or expansion
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Cucktick’ll come to your place, put a lawsuit in yo face
Tell you open the safe, as your heart start to race
Cause a donation store could turn into a RICO’ case
Co-operate, or Shenna'll have to dilate
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>>537712135
literally doesn't however, it simply has more of those things because they are more necessary on an old busted piece of shit. there/s a reason why most of the mods for the vanilla client are just half assed versions of native features on the newer clients.
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>>537711126
>can't even use macros with
lol, retard
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>>537712279
I played on the wrath client and it was just complete irredeemable dogshit compared to the modded vanilla client. Anyone shilling for it is retarded ask for something actually good like the retail / classic client instead.
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>>537711496
Epoch's dev were especially retarded.
Using trinity wow instead of open azeorth.
Worrying about the morality of using open source software without the intention of having his code be public, while also infringing the IP of blizzard.
gaytotes seemingly choice the hardway every step of the way.
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>>537712383
>I played on the wrath client and it was just complete irredeemable dogshit compared to the modded vanilla client.
sounds like a skill issue, wrath client has literally everything the vanilla client does and then some, and most of it is straight up default functionality.
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>>537712279
it works fine you stupid zoomer. literally every single mod you could could need to play wow is available. blizzard adding popular mods to the client down the line isn't even a valid argument.
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>>537712279
just adding another reply because you're retarded and asking for boiling water, go back to /epog/
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>>537712553
>it works fine you stupid zoomer.
>no equipment manager
>no preview talents
>dogshit 2006 graphics/interface settings
>incompatible with the gigantic library of wotlk addons that is still regularly increasing due to the continued popularity of wotlk private servers
>bro just write a lua script to accomplish the same thing you can do with a one line macro lmao

I think you are just a typical set in your ways faggot afraid to learn about new things.
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>>537712018
Vanilla macros are good (((if you know LUA and use dlls)))
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>>537712478
It doesn't really have everything that a modded vanilla client has. Most wrath servers including epoch are blocking client mods, so those are quite underdeveloped compared to what we have on 1.12. There are still some good mods for wrath client like awesome wotlk, fixing nameplates, adding proper nameplates support for addons, interact key, text to speech and a whole load of useful stuff for macros an addons, but all mods are banned on almost all wrath servers.
Also, currently the addons support for wrath is worse than what we have for 1.12, that may change thanks to epoch, we will see.
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>>537713605
>Also, currently the addons support for wrath is worse than what we have for 1.12,
This is such a laughable statement to make, just look at the addons created for warmane players. There are basically fully modern versions of every interface addon you could want, raid frames, timers, weakaura, every pvp mod that matters, TSM, DBM, damage meters that don't suck balls etc.

Even basic shit like unit frames for the vanilla client are a joke, I have been through the entire settings menu for this pfui and it has like 1/10 the features of what I use on wrath client.
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>>537713945
pfui mogs elvui thoughbeit
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Should i play a rogue or a hunter on turtle (dont call me gay)
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>>537713945
There are more backports on 3.3.5 sure, but most of them are not really great. ElvUI backport is really bad, pfUI is vastly superior to it. All nameplates addons are completely broken, because they simply cannot work without client modding on wrath client (and don't give me personal examples that x nameplates addon works great, it's simply impossible with the API available to them and you don't what you are talking about if you think your nameplates addon is good). Even your WeakAuras backport needs those client mod to interact with nameplates correctly. DBM/BW wrath port is quite shit compared to BW for 1.12. TurtleRP is better than Total RP 3. Bagshui is better than any bags addon available on wrath client. The only good addons that I know of on wrath client that I wish were on 1.12 are Details and WeakAuras.
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>>537714518
There's a million hunters. Be a unique rogue snowflake.
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>>537714518
Might as well go Rogue in case they nerf the 1.18 changes. Well, only if you're open to playing a single target dps.
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I'm gonna roll on chromie and you should too
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>>537714635
>ElvUI backport is really bad, pfUI is vastly superior to it.
with elvui on wrath I can show raid frames to show actual buffs/debuffs with a whitelist/blacklist and filter for the ability to dispel per class to easily know when and what player needs dispelled and when they don't i.e. for some bullshit debuff or unstable affliction. I can have each bar show the range and direction of every player to know where they are on the map which is like cheating for healing bgs, it has shield and heal prediction, and most importantly I can actually fucking change how every single aspect of it looks to fit with what I want. Now go ahead and tell me how erm ackshually pfui is better because....
>Even your WeakAuras backport needs those client mod to interact with nameplates correctly.
as opposed to not having it at all, right?
>The only good addons that I know of on wrath client that I wish were on 1.12 are Details and WeakAuras.

>the only good wrath addons includes literally the most important and powerful addon
yeah no big deal, at least we have cool RP addons on vanilla, right!!!
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>>537714727
>>537715123
is it still a swords combat rogue world
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>>537715318
pfUI has a ton of settings, you can do that ability filter quite easily if you had checked settings, overall I think that pfUI has more settings than ElvUI. ElvUI needs a ton of extra addons to do a lot of things (and most are not backported), while pfUI already has most of it integrated, settings page can be a bit daunting, but you can make it looks how you really want. As for dispel stuff, most people are using decursive/rinse, those addons can't exist in wrath client (or with extremely limited capacity) because of limitations with secure frame and taint. I don't think anyone made that arrow stuff for pfUI, never used that in my UI, it shouldn't be something hard to add if you had asked Shagu when he was still active.
We do have some alright dps meters with more information on 1.12, but still quite bad compared to details. Think 99% doesn't care and are fine with what we have, but I like some feature on details. It's a shame that WeakAuras doesn't exist on 1.12, it's hardly needed but would be something nice to have, can be annoying having to download small addons for a feature or a boss fight mechanic instead of importing a simple WA.
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>>537716264
>overall I think that pfUI has more settings than ElvUI
patently ridiculous statement, when was the last time you actually tried these things yourself? Not only does elvui have more settings its settings menu is also infinitely better formatted and easier to use.
you are either trolling or haven't looked what's available in years, either way there's no point continuing this conversation with you.
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>>537716232
Could also be combat daggers with Ass dip for Taste For Blood at high gear level. My gear isn't there, so I don't know, but I see lots of discussion about it in Rogue channel. At lower gear levels, 41 Ass/10 Combat has been working very well for me. Main things I can tell you are that:
>Blade Rush apparently scales very hard with agi at higher levels of stat
>Taste For Blood works to improve Dissolvement poison damage since that's a phys damage poison
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>>537715318
>I can have each bar show the range and direction of every player to know where they are on the map
There's an addon like that on turtle too but I haven't tried it myself
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>>537716672
Anon, I contributed to ElvUI. If you are using ElvUI, you are using code that I wrote. We tried to keep ElvUI lean despite touching every facet of the interface, which is why we have a lot of addons that add stuff to ElvUI. A majority of ElvUI users are not using ElvUI by itself. Even ElvUI core devs have their own additions to ElvUI as separate addons. Did you really take a look at pfUI settings? I really think that pfUI is overall better than ElvUI. The ElvUI codebase is a mess, and I even thought at some point of porting pfUI to retail just to start from a fresh proper codebase. The only thing that I think is better in ElvUI are the datatexts. pfUI settings are complex in certain cases because it doesn't have something similar.
Anyway, my goal wasn't to say that 3.3.5 is bad. I really do think that it can be better than 1.12 if only servers allowed modding it like servers using 1.12 clients. And if there was more time and interest in writing stuff for 3.3.5 clients. Before Epoch's release, the situation was quite dire honestly. A lot of the addons I'm using on Epoch didn't even exist a few months ago. Right now, I miss my 1.12 interface and client only because it has had years of development to get to this "good" state.
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>>537718017
>Did you really take a look at pfUI settings?
did you? I have my wrath and vanilla games open right now and the settings for both on screen, and the claim that pfui has more or better settings than elvui is completely laughable.
>erm that's technically an addon!!!
who cares? I'm not engaged in a dick measuring contest over who made this or that. All I care about is what works, when I mentioned how buffs and debuffs are much better handled by elvui you told me to just install some completely different addon to do something similar, does that count as a "separate addon" to pfui then?

spare me the my dad works for nintendo routine too, I don't care at all.
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>someone in world forming a ZG and HRing bijous
lol
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>>537718603
I did not say that pfUI lacks that setting. You have access to a buff whitelist and blacklist for all your units. I was just pointing out that the 1.12 client offers superior options for this use case. People need to realize that 1.12 is extremely permissive compared to newer clients, even when unmodified. Many things you can do on it would be considered cheating by modern standards. CastSpellByName was only protected starting in version 2.0.1, and I believe unit frames were also protected around that time. Addons like Decursive and Rinse are only available on 1.12, and you should use them because they are simply superior to simply showing dispellable buffs or debuffs on unit frames.
Anyway, it is clear that you are either acting in bad faith or do not understand the subject you are talking about. This is why I hate all these client discussions. Nobody knows what they are talking about, or they just want to engage in tribalism and defend their server. I just want a good client, and for that, it needs to be moddable and have an active development community. The latter often comes with the former. Right now, I do not know of any popular 3.3.5 based servers that allow client modding. Until that happens, 1.12 is superior by default. With both modded clients, they are more or less equal, with better or worse addons depending on the category and 3.3.5 has more potential in that regard (using lua 5.1 instead of 5.0 and being closer to retail). Anyway, I'm off.
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>>537720181
>I was just pointing out that the 1.12 client offers superior options for this use case.
And you totally failed to do that. Turns out that incessantly claiming that pfui has better settings and features isn't much an argument in the face of actual reality.
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>>537720457
yeah we gotta get back to that 1.3 posts per hour, the thread is way too fast with this addon discussion. arguing about whether shenna is a tranny or rehashing stories about how s/he sold gold on a server that's been dead for 10 years is the only permissible way to post in /wpsg/
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>>537720642
awful topics and themes all around
generals and threads don't need to be blazing fast but newfags don't understand 4chan without /vg/
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I always play Hunter BM because i sometimes jerk off to the idea of my female character having sex with her exotic animals
Thank you for your attention.
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>>537720780
>but newfags don't understand 4chan without /vg/
I think you are the one that doesn't understand. slinging tranny accusations back and forth and shitposting about ancient irrelevant drama that barely a dozen people on earth ever cared about in the first place is the typical form of discussion in /vg/ generals.
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>>537720181
>Many things you can do on it would be considered cheating by modern standards.
>Addons like Decursive and Rinse are only available on 1.12

yeah that's because this literally is cheating lmao, I just looked this up. It's basically fucking botting, just mash a key mindlessly and the addon does literally everything else including downranking the spell to save mana. I'm sure this is pure aids in pvp, now I really don't like the vanilla client.
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>>537721378
ngl this was the biggest filter of them all, knowing that shit like this exists for 1.12 is killing my desire to play the game. I'm sure there are autistic faggots like the le epic code monkey earlier that use the lua script bullshit in vanilla to make one key that plays their entire character, imagine facing that oppressive autism in a bg.
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>>537721378
kek I remember doing shit like that in WoD. My entire Gladiator rotation was on 2 buttons, so I'd get shitfaced, hop on raid with my friends wearing one of the fucking santa hats instead of a real helmet, and get 1st or 2nd on most fights because Glad was retarded and I was gaming the fuck out of the macros. Imagining it getting even more brain-off than that is just funny.
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>>537722643
funny until you actually encounter it in game, and who knows what busted shit you can do that codelet queers like >>537720181 will get up to using their own private bot addons. That's probably why he likes the vanilla client so much, probably has all manner of little scripts put together that play the game for him.

my motivation to keep playing turtle just went to 0, and epoch looks like rancid dog balls in terms of content and class changes. guess I will stop playing wow entirely for another few years.
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>>537720786
how fat/ugly/old are you
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>>537723681
Not fat or ugly
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some of Bronzebeard's new starting zone stuff
>>537720085
>>537721221
>>537721687
>>537722934
>>537723446
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ALL THESE ENHANCEMENT SHAMANS NEED TO STOP DPSING IN ROCKBITER
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when does the world pvp start on Nord
im guessing hillsbrad DOES anything actually happen there maybe i can get some stuff going on when I get to Balor and i'm thinking gilneas will probably be cool, bit big though
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>>537724163
i aint paying for a private server
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>>537721378
when is warmane gonna get in on the vanilla+ train? they actually give a shit about pvp and apparently are quite proficient at utilizing the wotlk client for custom servers.
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>>537727765
>warmane
>they actually give a shit about pvp
>a server that sells shadowmourne on shop
you gotta be the most retarded person on this thread, and there's a lot of competition.
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imagine caring about pvp in a 20 year old tab target mmo lmao
play a fighting game if u wanna pvp nigga
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>>537728094
I don't mean gearing I mean actual pvp, as if selling shadowmournes on icecrown is even remotely as offensive in that regard compared to giving away basically free everything on blackrock lmao. gearing is irrelevant to what I'm talking about, everyone that matters is max gear on warmane already anyway considering it's been continuously running for a fucking decade. I mean they put actual effort into maintaining an active pvp scene.
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>pretending to be retarded
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>>537728537
some people actually enjoy playing the game, they don't just tolerate gameplay as a way to collect purple letters. I know that's an incomprehensible mindset to the typical dragonslayer, but I suppose there are many things that don't compute when you have such overpowering autism.
and fyi, vagueposting is extremely faggy lmao
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evil and branded should raid together!
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>>537726003
It so easy to get a free invite to BB
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>>537732329
You just know they have bunch of sex when the husband isn't around
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>>537728369
i'm on mop classic just for the pvp, should i go to warmane? am i too late or is pvp gearing fast?
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>>537732759
>am i too late
server is 10 years old pal, if that's not late I don't know what is lol.
if you just want to pvp they have an instant 80 server where you get starter pvp gear, and you can get everything else as arena/bg rewards meaning all pvp and pve gear in the game.
everyone and their dog is bis or near bis on the server, they do have two tiers for bgs based on gear however, so you start out with all the starter shitters. you won't get immediately dumped on by the full bis premades until you get into the high gear tier.
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>>537728713
I was talking about the guy pretending fighting games and MMOs are remotely comparable
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>>537733076
i just looked into it, their instant 80 server is "blackrock" and has 295 people on rn. not that many. ice crown is their most populated server and it has 6.3k people, and 7x leveling. might do that.
>t. mage bull
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>>537733642
the population of blackrock doesn't matter much because all of the pvp is cross-server. you will match with people from icecrown while your character is on blackrock or lord.
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Which server has the best custom content? The new areas in turtle look neat in screenshots but I haven't visited any yet.
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>>537734675
I'm only lvl 26, but since 1.18 the turtle custom content seems a lot more refined.
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>>537733784
you have to win 10 bgs before you can solo queue. what kind of bullshit is this
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>get a locked box in a dungeon
>everyone needs no questions asked
>get a locked box in another dungeon
>one person needs and immediately types "whoops misclick" while everyone else breeds and I'm seen as the jackass for also needing
??? What the hell is Need even for if Needing a treasure box of mystery gear everyone can use is seen as poor etiquette? Am I meant to leave lockboxes for the rogue to grind out their lock picking? Fuck it, next dungeon I hit up I'm stating I'll need every item with Int and if the clothcucks cry they can find another healer.
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>>537739208
>one person needs and immediately types "whoops misclick" while everyone else breeds and I'm seen as the jackass for also needing
Did they really say that? That's fucking retarded. It doesn't matter if the dude misclicked. Everyone should roll need at that point. Those who weren't paying attention should've paid more attention if they care so much.
> Am I meant to leave lockboxes for the rogue to grind out their lock picking?
Absolutely not, and I say this as a rogue. We get junkboxes (not lockboxes) from pickpocketing, and rogues should be picking human pockets while they level and on a mob or two each pull in dungeons when possible. There are also bootlockers around for lockpick leveling at various level ranges. Rogues can get the skillup from party members' lockboxes regardless by using the "not to be traded" part of the trade menu.
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>>537736652
Silly pinky, did s(he) forget s(he) is a healer and not a tank?
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>>537739945
Shut the FUCK up
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>>537739945
Keep up with the times gramps, paladins are better tanks than warriors now
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>>537740243
y'all wyboys dun even smoke crack
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>>537740243
Lol
>>537740574
Lmao
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>>537740243
>meme cat instead of BIS 15-30 trinket shadowforged eye
bro...
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light's hope was the best private server desu
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>>537740574
paladins are hilariously fucking op we all know it
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>>537740243
congratulations on your transition!
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>>537742264
idk where to get such a trinket
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>>537740574
>fagadin
>warriors out of nowhere
rent free for 2 10ths of a century
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Turtle just went down unannounced!!!!!!!
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Whats games do you play when you wanna take a break from WoW?
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Any happenings regarding the court case? All I saw was that shagu said he's not involved
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>>537743081
starsector
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>just died to hyperspawns
this fucking server i swear to allah
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>>537742434
i keep seeing this repeated over and over but every paladin i've grouped with has been a fucking retarded subhuman so i don't ever get to see the power level of the class
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>>537740574
It's true
You'd have thought the twow devs would have recognized that the entire idea of protection warrior is at odds with itself (get tankier = less rage generation = threat capped = useless) hence why fury/prot (really its just fury) was the go to play style, but they either didn't understand this fundamental flaw or just didn't care and instead preferred if Warriors stayed relatively the same whilst changing hybrids like Paladins which function more like their TBC counterpart
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bored with retail
bored with anni
tbc anni is a year away
epoch or turtle?
genuine question
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>>537745004
Epoch because Turtle is gonna get raped legally by the kikes at Blizzard
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>>537744584
warrior is the same as his tbc counterpart, useless
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The brotherhood shall prevail!
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>>537745004
Epoch, turtle is cooked if the legal thing is serious.
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if i roll a warlock on turtle will i regret it?
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>>537732329
He's 100% having sex with his mother.
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>>537745004
Go play epoch because I don't want another retoilet classicfaggot subhuman normalfag on turtle, we have enough.
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wtf tank paladin levels so much faster than ret why the fuck would you ever spec ret while leveling
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>>537748745
the vast majority of paladin players don't know anything about the game even after playing for twenty years they simply like to live in the power fantasy of smiting for whatever brand of extreme politics they represent while popping bubbles on themselves the moment they see a hunter pet on the side of the screen
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>>537745004
Keep playing retail only version of wow ever worth playing.
>>537748745
They are unaware.
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>>537747536
IIRC warlock is in demand since it's the least popular class on turtle.
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>>537748745
90% of paladin players are unironic fucking egomaniacs with main character syndrome who saw that one fan art of a guy in full judgement with a hand of rag and think "thats literally me"
so when they hear that turtle buffed ret to be "viable" they think that means theyll be the star player in a raid, get their full tier set and hand of rag gifted to them on a silver platter.
telling these people "tank pally is really strong" or "hpals dont need to wear dresses anymore" is telling them that -they- are not the epic crvsader gigachvd top-tier DPS of the raid and that they might actually need responsibility beyond hitting the big dragon with holy strikes
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>ratchet flightpath and dwarf base in stonetalon aren't connected
FUCK OFF
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how long is it usually down for
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Shenna you can always start an OF
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>>537748745
Tanking as a Prot Paladin is the ultimate cuckoldry. You spend countless hours grinding gear, perfecting your rotation, popping cooldowns to save the raid, taunting mobs off squishy DPS, and soaking damage like a sponge, all so some random Ret Paladin can swoop in and top the meters. You pour your heart and soul into holding aggro, mitigating spikes, and keeping the group alive, only for the Ret to swing their big hammer, steal the glory, and get the loot with all the threat you built for them. If you think tanking as Prot isn’t the most cucked role ever, you’re delusional. Ret is where it’s at they carry the DPS charts, not some tank’s aggro.
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>>537749651
She is being raped as we speak
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>>537748943
>Keep playing retail only version of wow ever worth playing.
A piece of dogshit fell out of your mouth as you were saying it
Gobble up, double digit iq blizzard slave
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https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVbqran3
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Turtlewow is run by a literal russian organized crime network. By playing on Turtlewow you not only directly support Putin and his terroristic war crimes, but also tranny sissy femboys and their degenerate sexual kink role play. Twow began as an erotic roleplay server and was directly funded via funds collected from paid erotic roleplay prostitutes.
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>>537638214
Based.
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kek
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>>537750594
>By playing on Turtlewow you not only directly support Putin and his terroristic war crime
wtf based I'm going to donate more now
>NKVDN
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>>537647068
You forgot about the <Goblin Defamation League>.
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>>537750593
>Femgoblin 2 times
>No Draenei
Meh
>People prefer femdwarf over femhelf
Homosexual
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>>537750830
Only troons pick "helf".
Dilate.
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>>537650284
>third worlders on Turtle and the Ascension realms made me move back to retail.
This. The WoW private server player base is literally 50% brown thirties. Another 10% Russniggers.
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Can anyone Turtle WoW anons post the line in their Config.wtf that sets the graphic preset? If you used 'fancy' it should contain that string. Accidentally removed it while testing and forgot to restore it.
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>>537750594
pretend i replied to this with all the images of trannyshit in retail, including the devs
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>>537750898
Nigger you'd rather have sex with a manlike midget creature than a sleek, slender high elf with nice breasts and ass
You're a homosexual freak
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>>537750830
what's the matter tranny
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>helf
>tits and ass
what
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>>537750726
Tranny WoW xisters...
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>>537750594
I used to not believe this until i saw the legal document. they 100% use it to launder money.
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>>537750594
>rootkit
>relentlessly shilled (for free)
>owned by a tranny
>inb4 twow tranny says im a blizzdrone
>"Still better than muh retail doe!!"
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>>537750023
Private servers are a dead end. The only things worth looking forward too either turn out to be shit, or haven't released.
maybe things would have changed if turtle didn't get raped by a lawsuit while developing ue5 wow.
the only thing worth looking forward to is tuari legion and at that point, you should just play retail.
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>>537746123
spot on
other classes like paladin are basically on TBC/WOTLK prepatch power level while warrior is still stuck in vanilla. in fact, it's even worse off thanks to the increased power scaling of mobs
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>>537751629
I'd rather not play at all than play retail
You're willingly giving money to people that despise you, spit on you at every possible moment and rape the game we all loved further and further
Enjoy your bots and khadgar in the wheelchair with transgender dragons. You're too far gone.
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>>537748745
others have covered it pretty well but the VAST majority of paladins are brown third worlders who want to larp as the ebin grusader. big surprise most browns are sub 70 iq
>>537749272
>ret
>topping meters
lol
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>hc warrior ate it
>k ill try paladin now
holy fucking shit this feels like cheating. getting that Immortal title will feel incredibly undeserved
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>>537751996
I haven't paid for retail since wod, just turn the gold you make into sub time.
as for how the gay devs feel about me I don't care what any faggot dev thinks outside the video games he's making.
I don't care about wow lore, but why would i care about lore that couldn't developer either.
retail just offers new experiences and more gameplay.
i wont disagree about the bots though, it's awful and a big problem.
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>>537752101
>rets topping meters
yes thats the joke
retniggers will copemaxx that they can totally top meters if they [headcanon] and they [extremely niche stupid tech that improves dps by about 3%]
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Troondle cant die soon enough. I want to see every dogfucker an hero after that. It will be glorious
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>BBC+ and CoA already took Epoops custom content
Kino
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>>537752192
Wait till you try hunter.
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>>537748684
I'm hearing SoD nigger horror stories from friends who play on Ambershire. Glad I dodged that bullet.
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>>537752379
Told you guys that was their plan, literally FREE* custom content.
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>>537752379
what content?
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And Im also laughing at Shenna defense forces in this thread. Lmao, Shenna is Torta and you fucks will keep on sucking that russian dick. /wpsg/ is dead. I have to admit it to myself too now. Reddit troons took over and thats the end of it. Was fun while it lasted, shoutouts to my homeboys on nostalrius, gamer district, omegawow, hellground, wargate, warmeme excalibur, crusader storm and dozen other servers i cant be assed to remember. It was fun while it lasted, now im sure this place is 100% reddit so im out.

Jacket, if you are still lurking here, have a good one !
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>>537752481
I heard that its pretty busted
But yeah no wonder why the most played class on ally is paladin. Why wouldn't you be playing it (unless you want to play hunter obv)
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>>537753030
I miss all my homies, sad to see what became of wpsg.
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where are my feenix niggas at?
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byooo when's bbc plusss?
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>>537753030
>calls the thread reddit
>makes the most reddit post bemoaning the loss of faggot /wpsg/ cliques
curious
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>>537753685
based warrchad putting a dress wearer in its place
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>>537753685
I wish i raided with FMC 2 button class seems fun.
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>>537753030
Anyone who wasn't a legit retard knew that Torta was Shenna. There's a sucker born every minute so Turtle never lack players.
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i feel so bad for this guy man
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what killed fmc? i'm talking the knife not the coffin nails
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>>537754049
Epoop FOMO niggers
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>>537754006
Why would blizzard even think he works for torta anyway?
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>>537754006
He totally got paid for them hence he was included among the staff.
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is this a custom hair style? i haven't seen it in other iterations of wow. or is it just a female style slapped on to the male model
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>>537754153
Source?
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>>537754219
Common sense. Else they won't be targeting him too.
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>>537753791
that's so funny Fuutrans
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>>537754006
Why is he panicking so much over a nothingburger?
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>>537754502
Jewish lawyers will ruin him financially over nothingburger lawsuit.
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Why do the anti turtle trannies use "russian" as a pejorative? Am I supposed to dislike Russia for some reason?
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>>537754272
I suspect his addons wouldn't take a week to update after patch releases if there was any direct cooperation.
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Anyone found a good UK guild on Ambershire?

Also, what's the best way to get some bags on my first few characters, I'm level 12
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>>537754686
>Am I supposed to dislike Russia for some reason?
Studying history in HS, dropout bro.
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>>537754691
He did get database dump before patch release to update pfquest, but that's it.
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>>537754686
you fool youve alerted the nafotroons
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>>537753030
IN THIS HOUSE, SHENNA IS A HERO, AND IF SHE SCAMMED SOME RETARD 10 YEARS AGO TO FINANCE TURTLE, GOOD, WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME, END OF DISCUSSION
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>>537754686
boomers from western european countries (aka civilized countries) hate russians because before the massive muslim invasion slavs and gypsies were by far the most retarded and subhuman guys on europe
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>>537754686
>tranime is retarded
shocking news
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>>537754686
It's /pol/tardation fueled by glowie shilling.
>>537754775
Forgot to dilate today, tranny?
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>>537754502
He isn't the American guy, right? He'll be fine.
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>>537754919
I know, I did it on purpose.
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>>537755012
These are Polish and Lithuanian snow niggers posting this, mind you.
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Anyone know why my guild tab is bugged? Freshly joined a guild, so I haven't seen that before.
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>>537754502
they doxxed him? dropped his goverment name and everything. and he lives in germany so they'd serve him on a platter.
shenna can laugh at the lawsuit becasue putin would never capitulate to the west at the moment.
they'll send shagu to the US in a box if asked.
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>>537755087
>It's /pol/tardation
But /pol/ loves Russia.
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>>537755195
Disable census addon.
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>>537755012
the only russkies living in europe are well-off expats
the poor, low iq slavs are polacks, bulgarians, ukrainians and balts
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>>537755267
So do trannies. Muh hecking communism is the best :)))))))))))
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>>537754686
people told me russians are bullying ukraine or something and i should hate them.
but when i mentioned how the isrealies are treating palestine I was told stfu and banned.
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>>537755323
Don't have it, but it works on my character on Nordranaar. The only difference between the two guilds is that the one on Ambershire is cross faction, the other is alliance only, but I doubt that that's the issue.
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>>537755340
t. russian
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>>537755710
>t. draft dodging oinkrainian
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>>537755340
>Russians are passport bros
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>>537753030
/v/ and /vg/ are heavily botted by Epoch/Trojan WoW fags also paying jewtubers to shill their rootkit servers. Both of these servers combined don't have more than 1k players, it's only chink and russmutt gold farmers that Shenna/Ascension sell unbans to, it's the same shit nonetheless. Fuck Blizzard and fuck these russmutts, hohol dronestrike imminent
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>>537754686
Shenna pls raped in Ukraine
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>>537756780
You don't even know what a "rootkit" is.
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>>537756879
Rootkit is a real word nigger, kys
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>>537756780
>technically illiterate
>supports current thing because that's what they told him to do
hilarious
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>>537756780
trvth nvke. true wow players who don't want to give nu blizz money or play on a tranny redditor fun server shilled by ecelebs and an agressive marketing campaign are chilling in warmane
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>>537754973
BASED
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>>537754973
>TO FINANCE TURTLE
She financed herself to Montenegro for a vacation. She even admitted that she scams money from the privateservers she is involved with, she lives like king with 500euros or dollars in that shithole russia. Every simp who supports her scams should be chemically castrated so we dont get more of these mouth breathing retards to this planet
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>>537732329
That guy should thank God every day he has such a young and pretty mom who loves him.
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>>537753030
Still playing on Turtle
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>>537757076
>samefags
Nigger.
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>>537757858
>proving my point twice
god you are pathetic
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>>537757668
>She financed herself to Montenegro for a vacation
WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME.
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>>537755195
Figured it out. Still had shaguTweaks enabled. Why it only caused issue on Ambershire and not on Nord is a mystery to me though.
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>STOP HAVING FUN!!!!!1


No
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>scam
What do they even mean by this?
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Cope and seethe, trannies, I'd rather finance Bobby Kotick's trips to Little St. James.
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>>537758073
>proves my point
Nigger.
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>>537758478
>ask for donations for the server
>spend the money in your trip
Do you guys also invest on crypto and NFTs?
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>>537758939
sheena is literally built for big monteNEGRIN cock
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>>537759092
>Reddit tranny seething
Yep, time to leave this place for good. I hate every single one of you and you should be thrown of from helicopters in front of your families
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>>537732107
do tell
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>>537759092
Ohnonononono Rusbros, our women keep traveling to the Balkans for superior south slav cock!
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>I called you “nigger”, that means I won!
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>>537759347
You're thinking of Albania.
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>>537759214
Cope harder Crogge, your "gf" is getting MONTENEGRED every year and you "pay" for it.
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>Nigger dick posting
Kek, I got the troondles mad
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Now that dual spec is cheaper and I actually have a chance of playing feral, I really regret not grinding the pvp set at low levels. It must be complete cancer at high levels
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>>537759541
yikes
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>>537759547
>dual spec is cheaper
Wait what? How much is it now?
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anyone still has that pic of shennas tits?
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>>537759773
I just got the ick, toughsoy pooner chuds...
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friendly reminder that elysium died because whitekidney banged sheena while she was in a "romantic relationship" with crogge
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is shenna an actual programmer/developer or is she just a con artist
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>>537636996
im surprised that blizz lawyers know that twow uses assets specifically from vanilla-cata
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>>537759541
Telol left FMC?
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>>537760382
old screenshot, he's playing ambershire in <branded> as a tauren warrior
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>>537760489
>warrior
ohnonono
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>>537759214
Shenna is built for BMC (Big Monenegrin Cock)
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>>537760489
>woyer
hahahahahhahaa
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>>537759261
nigger
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thinking of actually playing tauri once the wod server comes out, can't use existing characters right?
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>>537761415
>death
>no
pussy
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What do you bros honestly think about the lawsuit?
Will Turtle unironically get ACKed, or will it somehow survive?
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>>537760382
No, but he is mostly playing on Ambershire, you can find lot of screenshots from him on /heals/.
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is asalys in <branded> or <evil>?
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imagine unironically playing warrior on turtle LOL
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>>537761517
epic maymay
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>>537761517
always bet on *nothing*
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Warrior is still the best vanilla class.
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>>537761898
That's Druids though.
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@537761295
ironically, repeating the same insult over and over is nigger behavior
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>>537761898
unfortunately turtle isn't vanilla. far from it
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>>537762473
its vanilla+
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>>537761546
Pupper Pals
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>>537762473
>>537763056
it's tbc- actually
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>>537763262
how do i get in
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>>537762473
actually it's lgbtq+
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friends should i play on stormforge or focus on tauri wow? i played on tauri since 2018 and i've been waiting for legion for a long time now, and on sep 30th they're progressing into wod.

TLDR: Focus on stormforge or level a new main on tauri?
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>>537763950
stormforge is shit, go play on tauri
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>>537763262
Does Elicia get to watch when Indii stretches Asa's ass?
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>>537763406
you can whisper literally anyone in pupper pals, they're a normie guild that advertises in /world and has a no-kick policy. be warned, no one speaks in guild chat and most of the activity seems to be on d*scord.
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>>537763990
play with 300 people?
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>>537764237
People are bored of mop, they'll get a lot of players with legion for sure.
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>>537764237
>>537764338
the population already doubled and it's not even out
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>>537750594
>>537751324
I don't really care thou'? So a money laundering operation can make better content than Activision Blizzard? What the fuck?
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>>537763990
are you going to be able to play the wod expansion with your characters at the mop expansion? or is it going to be a pure fresh server where you need to start from level 1?
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>>537764664
>are you going to be able to play the wod expansion with your characters at the mop expansion?
yes
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>>537764628
>So a money laundering operation can make better content than Activision Blizzard? What the fuck?
Blizzard just don't give a fuck about classic. You can tell by how they're treating Mop classic, Anni, Sod.
Retail is all they care about. To them, classic is just a low maintenance way to get more money from retards. Next to no money goes into development, bug fixing, support.
Turtle is hiring people to develop, doing bare minium support and actually bug fix. It's not that this Russian money laundering ring is making better content, it's that this money laundering scheme is doing the bare minimum and look impressive next to the dead corpse that is classic.
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>>537763950
YO WHAT? WORKING WOD PRIVATE SERVER THIS MONTH? FUCKING WHERE?
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Is Elaynna in <Branded> too?
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>>537765229
WoD is a steping stone to Legion desu.
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>>537761517
This shit is slow right? At best they'll fuck with Shenna's economic structure, stopping all payments but crypto so she'll just run with the money, change her online persona and shill a new server.

The only guy really fucked is the Michigan dude.
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>>537761517
>Will Turtle unironically get ACKed, or will it somehow survive?
Both. Turtle WoW will die and the devs will make another Vanilla+/Hardcore/RP server down the line.
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anon who wanted to guild up, my game crashed, whipser again
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wtf is wrong with Turtle? My internet is doing fine but I'm lagging and have been kicked out of the due to bad connection like 2 times so far. Never experienced it before.
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>>537767046
>Turtle WoW will die and the devs will make another Vanilla+/Hardcore/RP server down the line.
Retarded take. Turtle will be fine but some of the devs named in the suit will bail from the project out of fear.
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>>537761517
shenna is untouchable. No foreign country is going to extradite one of thier own on the basis of a fucking private server. only US cucks are fucked. they will make an example of him and give him life in jail.
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funniest race/class combo? for me its
>gnome
>warrior
lmao
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>>537769032
High elf paladin
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How do I make a fishing friend so he can share me fish mats and I can craft potions? I'll give him one /pat for every 20 stack
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>>537763950
depends what you want to do
do you want long term legion? tauri
do you want "short" term legion? stormforge
SF is seasonal, so once season 2 legion realm opens 2-3~ years later, the season 1 realm will be completely dead

there is no real reason to wait for stormforge, other than slightly better experience because it will release later, which means more bugs fixed
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>>537768756
This. Especially the EU/US ones.
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>>537754686
World's first illegal invasion don't you know.
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>Warrior is "cringe"
>Paladin is "cringe"
>the third tank is escaping my memory so I'm just assuming it's a shit class nobody talks about
>Tank Shaman is a meme spec
Well fuck, what am I meant to play if I want to Tank then?
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>>537769032
funniest or funnest?
>funniest
anything gnome
>funnest
anything gnome
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>>537770473
tank shaman is real
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>>537770473
evasion rogue
kiting hunter
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people only want tanks or healers. I leveled my mage for nothing.
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>>537679009
Its not about that really. People in general just were shitheads and should've just been benched when they acted like shitheads.
FMC has been ruined by weak leadership who just allowed these people to act like shitheads.
Dps who always would take away aggro for example. Like I get it sometimes it happens okay. But every pull on every boss? Yeaaa... should've just went and said you're on vacation next week.
Or a lot of bullying and provoking that took place, which escalated more and more. These people were guilty of ruining FMC and should've been punished accordingly by the guild master.
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>>537770738
>Mage player
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>>537770548
Posted by Jib
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>>537770936
okay what class gets invites then? priest? but then I have to heal.
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>>537740243
I enjoy this fella riling up all the newfaggotry ITT by actually playing the game.
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>>537771051
healing is more fun than spamming frostbolt sis
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>>537770936
nigga thats pallies and hunters. mages are currently in a big pile of every other class not named warlock or shaman
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>>537771160
what class is fun at healing then?
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>>537771285
shaman or druid
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>>537771285
Priest and druid
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>>537770738
You COULD level a Hunter and tank dungeons with your pet. But that isn't going to help you at 60.
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>>537771369
>>537771378
>Both say druid neither say paladin.
Druid it is then. I'd rather get easy groups than suffer this.
Maybe I can play chicken at 60.
Thank you anons.
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>>537770936
good luck not wiping 2 times with the whole party leaving with a chink prot pala and a priest, both having no mana pots
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I'm so glad I play a Shaman and have mana regen out the ass so I only need to drink water like twice a dungeon
Water is expensive! 30 silver a stack!
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>27 anons above lvl 25 in Evil
>There are only two healers among them
Raid is in 23 days and it's already over
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>>537771527
>He fell for it
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>>537772767
explain.
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>>537773053
They're grooming you to tank.
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i play shaman tank
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>>537773248
>71x88
If you did not want anybody to know what the fuck you posted, congratulations.
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>>537773212
Why would they go to effort of doing that? and if thats what they wanted why not just say paladin? the best tank I assume who can also heal.
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>>537773248
Why though
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>>537772602
>15 sluts above lvl 25 in Branded
>There are only 5 dps among them
Raid is in 23 days and it's already over
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>>537773495
i hate myself and my healers
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>>537773513
>>537772602
Wait a minute
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>>537770473
mage tank
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>>537773971
chud <3 tranny
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>>537636996
>Looks up other people's opinions on the Turtle WoW matter
>They defend Blizzard
The level of cuckery is so insane.
It's like buying a car but getting told that you can only park it inside designated parking zones.
>You allow it like the good little cuck you are.
Then they decide to close off that parking zone, restricting any access to your car.
>Your clit tickles just a little, but you manage to handle it.
Being forced to buy a new car, you decide to buy their new shittier model, since their new designated parking zones just opened.
>You are eagerly waiting for the next model to replace this one.
Meanwhile, you think to yourself:
>'What these turtle people do is bad, but I secretly hope that Blizz will cooperate with them to create a good environment for everyone involved.'
>Your entire crotch is glowing in a bright red now.
What the fuck?
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>>537772602
evil has the tanks/dps
branded has the heals
???
profit!!!!
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Ambie's alliancebabz lose every high level battlegrounds...
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>>537774375
branded also has tanks and those healsluts are following their tanks
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>>537774653
they're all in "open relationships"
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When I get to 60, I'm gonna start either a high elf only or high elf/human/dwarf only guild.
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>>537759215
not him but unironically go to the ascension discord and ask for a key
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>Thought I would play ele shaman
>it's shit
>okay maybe boomkin
>it's also shit
>shadow priest???
>shittiest spec in the game
wow I guess I just don't get to play anything then
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>>537774378
it's been the same on nord for almost the entire time i've played it. at least it doesn't affect ranking, in theory, since you're only competing against your own faction. slogging through a 99% loss rate is demoralizing though.
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>>537776257
you're just naming all of the worst specs on purpose
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>>537776330
those are all specs I wanted to play.
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>>537776330
NTA but one of the points of making a TBC based banilla+ server is making the memespect viable in one way or another. Right now they're a net loss of damage.
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>>537776372
i dont believe you
also shadow priests are decent/good
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>>537776257
Show Priest rocks. I think you're just bad at the game anon.
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>>537773417
Because thats druid, paladin is a buff and cleanse bot at best
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>>537774328
blizzcucks are the worst
absolute slaves
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>>537776257
good, its literally 20 year old wow that has been done to death and optimized to the point that you might as well let ai play it and do something else with your time
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>>537765328
Yes but this time I heal.
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TURTLE IS DOWN
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>>537777338
fucking whore.
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What are the perks of being a dps in Branded?
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>>537781726
DPS are the unwanted third wheels that dont fit into branded's dom/sub dynamic - at best you'll be treated with a sort of mild neglect.
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>>537781726
cuck status
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>>537761864
>>537766341
>>537767046
>>537768789
Could we at least say that maybe Turtle servers will have to be moved to Russia?
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>Ascension updates the starting zones with new areas and quests
>Check it out
>Mfw a cool little questline about the loa, voodoo and an evil witch ending with a boss fight in the Orc starting zone
Anyone tried any of the others?
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>>537783615
wait ascension took the fucking troll starting zone from epoch? even thats just a bastardized version of the troll starting zone in cata
holy shit lmao
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I wish they added some parallel raid content for the vanilla raids. Like i can do MC, BWL, ZG, AQ and Naxx but but it would be nice to have something new in the mix. Gonna be a long time before i can hope to get to Kara and the upcoming raid. Who knows if the server even survives that long..
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>>537783713
This is from epoch? I haven't tried it, but I did log on a Troll once and they were on an island around the Echo Isles, this one is in Valley of Trials.
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>>537783713
No you gigafaggot, they updated all of the original starter areas.
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>>537782137
>>537782229
I don't want to have virtual sex I just think the name is cooler than Evil...
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>>537783918
>>537783965
oh interesting, thats the same plot beats of the epoch one but it had 0 effort put into it. this looks like they actually tried a bit
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>>537768756
>>537768789
Turtle is fucked beyond hope, cope all you want but Shenna is fucked
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>stealing pieces of the Fang set from druids in WC
Feels great.
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>>537783918
And a neat spooky cave they also added with troll ghosts and loa spirit themed beasts.
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>>537783463
Yes, if they're hosted in the cUcK. they're 100% getting moved to a russian blacksite or similair shithole euro country with bad ping.
The uk is desperate to police the internet so will coperate so they can ask the US gov to do their dirty work for them.
>>537784072
I don't see how though? How are the US going to extract her from moscow?
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>>537784162
Ooo they're guarding a shiny treasure in the cave.
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>>537783918
>>537784162
is this in game?
>>537784526
WHERE IS THIS?
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>>537784069
Yeah they even made the waterfall area above northshire exploreable now as part of the starter zone, UNLIKE TURDLE who made that are a GM zone
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>>537784578
BIG BONE
>>537784578
It's on Ascension Bronzebeard (and CoA I think?). They updated the starter zones with new areas and quests, this is a big spooky cave in the Orc Starting Area.
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>>537784805
>hit rating
>tbc slop stat system
gay
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>>537784758
why did epoch get so much hype when BBC+ looks so much better?
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Am I the only one who dislikes how they are managing the Epoch cash shop? It seems like a lot of cosmetics are completely exclusive to the cash shop. I want to have cosmetics available in game. Putting all item attachments in the shop feels like shit. There could be some kino end game class quests to unlock them.
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>>537784758
visually it looks a bit cluttered as fuck like they made it more for nice bullshots than actually being playable. but at least they put some effort in unlike fucking epoch and its wide flat hallways in zones
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>>537784176
UK is following the agenda2030 with no brakes, V for Vendetta comic is real by now.

>>537785016
Hiring the sargeras team was a huge score.
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>>537784934
what are you a girl who the fuck cares about dressup shit faggot
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>>537784934
if epoch is good the'yll add some non cash shop versions, but i've no faith in gaytotes.
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>>537785139
I care about cosmetics. They're important rewards that make you do stuff in the game. Without cosmetics, you have no reason to run low level dungeons or farm a lot of shit in the open world.
>>537785348
Well, I think it's a bit of a shame when there are recolors of in game stuff in a shop (particularly if the original one is hard to obtain), but making some category of cosmetic completely exclusive really sucks. Honestly, the more time I spend on Epoch and learn about it, the less I like the server.
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>>537784072
Sounds like you're the coping over some fantasy of turtle getting shut down. Explain to us how that wold work? Like, exactly what actions can blizzard take to force a permanent shutdown?
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>>537785990
Shenna sees money.
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>>537784934
When can I buy boosts? I would try epoch, but only if I can pay for a 60 and some decent pre-raid gear.
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>>537786198
>>537786198
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>>537786159
Huh? So Blizzard is going to bribe her into shutting it down? That might work actually. Maybe for something like 10 mil I could see her doing it. But difficult to make that kind of assessment without knowing how much they are raking in through the shop.

Anyway, legally there is nothing Blizzard can do against a Russian. You must understand that by now, and just being obstinate.
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>>537786545
>legally there is nothing Blizzard can do against a Russian
KEEEKKKKK didn't know laws don't exist in russia
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>>537754502
>Why is he panicking so much over a nothingburger?
He has a real job and assets, a house. Only you kids who own nothing believe lawsuits can't ruin you.
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>>537757668
>Montenegro
It's literally a fake country owned entirely by russian crime organizations. Montenegro is one of the only countries on Earth with no cash customs limits. As in, you can fly into there with 80 million dollars cash in a briefcase and nobody cares.
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>>537760489
>>537760729
>>537761183
Why do people meme on warrior? I raided all of vanilla and TBC and every maintank was always a warrior. Nothing but warriors were even viable tanks in vanilla except a few niche cases for geared bear tanks with huge health pools. Paladins were nice off tanks in TBC but for tanking real raid bosses it was ALWAYS still warrior. How are you memeing on the best tank in Epoch?
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>>537761898
>Warrior is still the best vanilla class.
If I had to speak objectively I'd say mages and rogues are better than warrior in pure vanilla. Probably warlock too.
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>>537763056
>vanilla+
As in, something entirely different.
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>>537770473
Tanking is for cuck masochists who like being beaten.
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>>537776257
Ele shaman is so strong that any raid group not bringing one is retarded. Especially on Epoch where all totems and shaman buffs are raid wide. OP desu.
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>>537798192
the fuck?



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