Anisha Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/08-18-2025-update.75046/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Drifters Meal >>537613151
>Jeeta YamatoYou rike?
>>537669401>>537664578>two people have said they went to initiate after playing wardenI'm noticing...
>>537664039Thanks. How does she scale into the late game? I come from Dota, and because of the heroes (hard pos 1 carries), I have an instinct to afk farm. I want to ween that out of myself, and I figure Vindicta is good for that as her ult encourages assassinating, and she's not great at clearing jungle creeps. But I still like heroes that scale well into the late game.
Paige is so disgustingly broken, yet she will never get gutted because she's boring.
>team feeds a yamato 10 kills in lane >doesnt matter because as soon as my ult comes online we win the gameall in a days work for a warden player
The real main character of Deadlock is Seven.
>>537669507lol noand if they want to do a hindu character, they have a ton of actual indian traditions to draw inspiration from, maybe a Bodhisattva hero
>>537669851>Bodhisattvai aint pronouncing all that
Pawge facesitting
I main Ezreal in league, who should I play in Deadlock?High skill character that looks simple but isn't.
>>537670138>high skilllmao haha. paige can spam shit and has a map wide ult.
>>537669972bod-hee-satva
>>537669972Never watched Point Break? Sad!
>>537670138Mirage rewards good game sense with his teleport. But I think for you, Viscous will make the most sense. He has tons of movement tech and other nonsense, and his level 3 ball letting you use items opens up a big skill ceiling for abusing teleports and other things in ball form
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>537670613Ritualposters are weird schizos at the best of times, but this is one that I truly don't understand.
>>537670737its not even the most egregious example, he could have gone with wraith and calico since they're both black ladies in purple
Real talk for a moment, is there any hope I can be decent at Deadlock. I'm pretty good at Dota 2 (usually played with ancient and divines) and used to play at a high level, but I've NEVER been good at FPS and I've tried to get into them for years. Even when I just practice with bots for hours and hours, I'm still shit and it's pretty frustrating. Should I just move on to something else or is a higher level of brute force I can find. Assume I can literally devote 3-5 hours a day to this.
>>537670613Haze isn't a nigger, faggot.
>>537670737Makes perfect sense to me. Haze is black. Just look at her.
>>537670902It's a moba, there are heroes that dont require aim at all. Stop playing haze.
why does Mina 1 sometimes count as a melee on creeps and sometimes it doesnt
this fov bug is happening more than a year ago
fucking executing victor with shiv puts it on cd because these devs are retarded
>>537670905She literally cant be any more black
Id like to melee mina with my penis and give her my love bites. Id put her pussy in a coffin the way id stake it
>>537670902>can't click heads goodmelee heroesteamfight heroesbuy save items and save people, use your big impact abilities to team fightlaning you need to be able to click good>Even when I just practice with bots for hours and hours, I'm still shit and it's pretty frustratingim sure it's been too long to recall how hard it was to get into dota, but it's the same in that you should expect a learning curve that looks like a cliff
>>537671690Sis he's not dead...
>>537671848when i execute people who have rejuv is gives me my ult back so why is this any different
>Try out funny Gunginnis just for the sake of it>Doing pretty fine and winning lane until we kept getting ganked by the Drifter and his friends>Get shit on repeatedly by the Drifter>Farm diligently >Finally get my items>He tries to dive me as usual but I out damage him>Ended up winning the gameAhh, nice to see you can just play McGinnis as Heavy lmao.
>get behind in souls>Enemy jungle is not safe to farm>our jungle is farmed either by the enemy or my teammatesWhat do I do then?
Doorman looking zesty. Like a ripe southern sugar plum waiting to be biten into.
>>537669561I am by no means an amazing player, but I have a 53% winrate with her currently, which is a bit above average. here is my build, it's more of a cheat sheet than anything. I rarely farm jungle creeps and mostly focus on constantly pushing and joining any fight my team is looking to start. getting fortitude up early allows you to disengage without having to go back to base to heal. a lot of your economy relies on hitting ults and generating free souls for yourself.build id is 236445 if you want to check it out in game
>>537672085yo fern...easy on the whiskey sours...
>>537672085
>>537671238>>537671796I def didn't play anyone who needed headshots, but it's like the second all my skills are on cooldown and I'm not playing a melee hero, I'm useless. Maybe I can try Grey Talon with an insane amount of practice? Not really sure.My laning-shooting is pretty bad, so that's something I can work on in just general matches against people. Maybe there isn't quite a melee hero that fits my playstyle yet, but I'll def look into getting team saving items rather than trying to boost my own damage.
>>537671702The color black does not imply nigger, faggot.
>>537670905Can someone redraw this with Billy or Ivy, and change the text to 4 letter agent.
>>537671923because you actually kill them with the rejuv
>>537672395What would happen if you put your dick in that keyhole on his chest?
Is there a general rule of thumb for the number of items in each tier you should buy as the game progresses?
>>537670902Aimlabs is free, kovaacs is cheap. The only thing stopping you from being better is yourself
>>537672657i think about this a lot. i dont know but i think it would be very erotic.
>>537672502nobody's talking about the n word here bud
>>537672815t. hasn't been in the aiming communitythere are tons of people with hundreds and hundreds of hours practicing and are still garbage
>>537670902Hello there I am bad at aiming as well. I like playing Bomb Geist and full green MoKrill, and am working on adding Paige in to my rotation. I was working on a Mirage at one point that rushed ricochet as quickly as possible so that I didn't have to aim so much, but I don't really use him now.
>>537672902Yes you arem
I knew this game would eventually attract the surf and turf types. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA8Ps-Rv4ygStill, good shit.
>>537672734there used to be fore the item rework, not anymore. Buy whatever
>>537672085Shit like this is why he hates humanity so much
>>537673068>eventuallydone been>those huge launches off ledgesI should practice that more
>>537673349he sure seems to enjoy serving them
>>537672502actually it quite literally does
>>537673068Deadlock movement is smooth as fuck, it feels really nice to play t. can only do basic walljumps
>>537673527What do you mean? He makes them check-innto hell
>>537673068we have cs 1.6 hns at home
>>537673527Mainly because being a wagie shows people's true colors.
>>537673631>Spanish Okay, pedantic nigger.
>>537670902Honestly no and people that say otherwise are lying. Yeah you can play like 2 heroes where you don't need to aim but even then it will be a disadvantage and your movement skills need to be good as well if you want to surpass certain ranks.
>>537673936>dumbass doesnt know how the word nigger came aboutlol
>>537673527He likes observing them since he gets to see how people truly when he's acting as an employee compared to when he was torturing humanity. Like he seems to genuinely like Paige and Bebop for example and seethes at Geist.
>>537673936>>537673996Shut the fuck up you double Africans. This is a stupid conversation.
Im playing this game on igpu at 60fps. There is nothing you can do about me being in ur team.
>>537672913You're supposed to train AND game, you can't expect to put 300 hours in kovaacs and automatically get good at every shooter out there
Time to lower my rank some more :]
>>537672734buy as few low tier items as you can get away with, unless they upgrade into the higher tier item you want.the faster you get your power spike items the better, but if you feed and shit yourself before you can farm that much that also isn't helpful.buy hp regeneration
>>537674462Not all africans are black, stop being racist
I always hear about how strong viscoos is. What are his strengths? He seems whatever
>>537676013Try gun build on him, that smg is no joke
i'm in a 6v3 and my team are just fucking around jungling instead of ending
>>537676013ill talk lore he's probably nigh immortal given he is microbe controlling goo
I'm making it work
too tired to play
>>537676286post rank
>>537671702isn't her VA black
>>537673936Actually, it would be more accurate to say he is a semantic nigger. Because his argument is based on semantics.
>>537676393Arcanist but I'm climbing
>enemy team gets victor and drifter...again>they play like theres money on the line>my team gets minda and billy who cant do shit...againi wish valve would do something about this mm already
>>537676656>arcanist
>>537676286How'd that one Victor game go for you?
>>537676013>1.8 scaling splash projectile that can hit twice>on demand invincibility>ranged melee that can launch you away or enemies towards you>ult gives you infinite stuns, insane resistance and mobility
>>537676286same
>>537676606her VA is unknown(and no Valve confirmed it wasnt that tranny like that one obsessed anon insists)
>Come back after a long hiatus to try the new heroes>Never get the new heroes>Every match has someone abandonWell, time to uninstall again. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>537676679my favorite is that whenever I get a drifter on my team it's the one that does 2/11 and then when the drifter is on the enemy team it's some 20/1/4 monster that 1v6s >>537676801It was my first time playing as him and I just quickly selected a build browser build for himWe got raped by a fed Drifter who came from another laneI didn't really enjoy having to remember to cast 2 all the time
>>537676969Low elo is truly hell before death
>>537676975victor smokes drifter, just run at him and get bullet res/juggernaut at some point
The protagonist of Deadlock
>>537677204But that's not calico
>>537677204The literally who of Deadlock. Who the fuck cares about this guy? His story is some shit about being an alchemist? Ok... DON'T CARE... Mina's trying to become the Viscount of New York
>>537677204You mean abrahams?
>>537677343>implying anyone knows minas storywe're just here to goon to her
>>537677343shut up mina
>>537677151He was literally unkillable bro, by the time I ran into him he was fed
>>537677485next time you run the matchup, try doing suppressor, bullet res, juggernaut, he's gimped extremely hard by fire rate reduction and stink auras
>victor on my team>goes 0-8 in lane and is useless after>victor on enemy team>12-2 unkillable monsterwhy is this so common
I hope the following abilities get swapped out eventually, mostly cause they’re boring projectiles with little visual impact:>calico’s gloom bombs>mirage’s fire scarabs>geist’s malice
>>537676969the way the algo works is it gives you the heroes you play a lot, so the more you get a new hero the more it will give it to you. You're queueing with people who have 20+ games on new heroes so you'll never get them. Dumb but you should have come back 2 weeks ago
>>537676626Whats the difference between pedantry and semantics then, isn't all semantics pedantic in nature?
I AM VISCOUNT OF NEW YORK
>>537676286Fake
>>537677612Yeah I built suppressor and our pocket also had it but he just m1'd us all to death
>>537677204Not every blue hero is Abrams, you dummy
>>537677752I agree with all but Geist, that's one the most satisfying projectiles in the game. Calicos bombs though are so half baked and is a result of turret calico being removed.
>>537678024kek
>>537677754>the way the algo works is it gives you the heroes you play a lotdo bot games count? could I make it favor me by spamming bot games?
>>537677612crippling headshot on gun heroes absolutely fucks him, he loses spirit resistance and healing.
>>537673068No way does corner boosting make it into the final game. This footage is exactly the same as when heavy melee punch retained momentum and allowed you to fly around the map.
>>537669248>yamato nadeshito
>>537677838Sometimes but not in this case. It would be a lot more pedantic if Spanish was the only language but every romance language and a few indo-european languages. Then you get into the fact that some languages have different words for black (race) and black (color) but some others don't have that distinction and maybe the color black does imply nigger on some non-pedantic levelBut I digress, Haze is clearly a white coded character.
>>537677754i still don't understand the reasoning behind the character pick favoring heroes you already play a lot.isn't the entire point of this shitty pick 3+ roster system to stop people from being onetricks?
>>537678840corner boosting is cool. don't say such awful things
>>537678958So was heavy melee punch momentum. That doesn't mean it should be in the game.
>>537679039That was a bug, corner boosting isn't
>>537677204that would be victor
I'm sorry for doing this but you gave me no choice>violently sharts frogs in every direction
>>537679039it's fun>it makes the game harder to balance the game should accommodate the fun parts, not cut them out
>>537679039Corner boosting has its' own sound effect in the game, meaning Valve added it in and most likely is going to keep it as core forever.
>>537669248Just played Vyper for the first time and she is fucking awful.
>>537678558Valve literally copied Yamato's bombs and gave them to Calico because they couldn't be assed to create a unique and fitting skill for her
>>537679439They don't act the same at all?
>>537678637no idea, worth testing though
>>537679247corner boosting is more than fun and fair than the trans melee cancelling
none of these advanced movement techniques matter because nobody actually does them even in high rank games.
>>537679935they do sometimes but they eat shit because I always accessorize my debuffs and CC properly :)
>>537679935I do them in my low rank games>doesn't matterfun matters!
>>537679935I've watched a few games and it had people autistically sliding down the slightest of inclines to keep getting infinite ammo during the laning phaseIs that something I really what I should be aiming at practicing?
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>537680119>free shots>shrinks your hitbox and moves your headno reason not to
>>537680119yes. sliding is 1000% practically useful in all games, whether if it's engaging, disengaging, or extending your pressure (free ammo).it lowers your hitbox as well so you don't get headshot as easily
>>537679764>Game has melee combat>devolves into animation cancel/ballerina shitshowWhy is it every single time?
>>537680341deadlock needs gunz movement tech
>>537678909Well, guess I've learned something useful on this sogshit general after all
>>537679935lash players are doing them nonstop
>>537678909>white codedher physiognomy says otherwise
>>537680341Because Valve need to stop being pussies and copy Sleeping Dogs melee system, doubling down on the melee animation commitment>>537679230I hate Pocket as a character so much, what a pathetic piece of shit. Even his skills are annoying.
Haze literally is not a human can you niggers please shut the fuck up
>>537678909yeah man the char with the bob afro is whiteparadox is black too
>>537680752>t. Mina
>>537680268>>537680281Well that's annoying
boy I sure do love it when some dogshit nigger mina feeds all game and buys 0 green items and loses walker at 10 minutes their steam avatar is even a picture of mina kek
>>537680701Haze is a white glowie bitch using an obfuscation spell, and there's nothing you can say to change it.
where can I appeal a discord ban
Mina players deserve coaching and headpats not criticism and rude posting
>>537679230My father chose violence, not me>blasts ivy's head off with a shotgunYou shouldn't have made the spirits mad
>>537680954then why is she built like a black woman
>>537681209She's clearly not.
>>537681253>big lips>conical faceare you a haze player in denial or something
Imagine if pocket turned into a frog and mina had to give him trues loves kiss to turn him back
>>537681389cute!!!!
>I already have half as many hours in Deadlock as I do in TF2Wtf…
>>537681253The ass is phat
>>537681168icefrog's a pocket one trick right?
>>537680928only green item mina buys is locket
>>537678934No. It's to stop people from having to wait three hours for a game because everyone else wants to play Victor and Drifter too. Valve doesn't care that you only play one hero, they care that you saying "I won't play anyone but Drifter" means you turn into a welfare leech on the matchmaking system who can't be put into a game unless you get Drifter, even if they accommodate you by putting you in lower skill games on your worse characters.Bad matchmaking that takes too long is a compounding issue. If it takes too long to get a game, people stop queuing, which makes matchmaking take longer, which makes more people leave queue, and so on and so on until only people who won't leave queue at all (which is NOT very many people) are left playing at all. It outright fucking kills the game.Even League of Legends, which has one of the consistently highest playercounts of any online game, has to tell people "too bad, play the game" sometimes.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PUvdLayA0S8
Going from Ritualist to Emissary is genuinely fucking impossible Every time I get a ritualist match I stomp, then every time I get an emissary match some lane feeds their asses off and makes winning impossible
>>537681440My wife is extremely Scottish and has an ass pike that.
>>537681640What's it like being married to Paradox?
Do you guys think the playerbase will go back down to 10k or do you think we might actually have some momentum now?
My black glownigger wife Haze
>>537681874slow decline until next hero drop with crate system to keep people digging in
>>537681884Sorry, Haze is a white glownigger.
>>537680341They need to just add more to it. You lose to a melee faggot on most heroes without one succesful parry or you die to everyone from just one parry. Only fun melee is in team fights. There's fleetfoot and other heavy melee cancelling but it should be core somehow. A single parry shouldn't be the end of the fucking fight.
>>537681884Is it pink though?
can the artist who mentioned bbw paige PLEASE follow up on it
>>537681874the surge is proof people are interested and want to play the gameonce the incentives and skinner box mechanics are in, the dopamine junkies will flock and the game will stabilize until then players will probably come and go inbetween content updates just to check things out
>>537681874momentum requires continuous input.if valve fucks off for another few months it's going to die again.
>>537679250that's just the wall jump sound effect lol
>>537682264It's literally different retard
>>537680752Pocket would be cool if his model was a frogman instead of a DEI they/them gook
>>537681640>>537681736Not him, but I am Scottish married to a Scottish woman. They're all BPD as fuck. Which BPD? Yes.
>>537682338no they are not, go do a wall jump and then do a corner boostthey're the same sound
>>537682386him being a gook is finehis DEI ugly by design face is not
Shouldn't tinkering with FOV be a bannable offence since others are stuck at 75?
>>537682408As the other anon: this is accurate.She's BPD as fuck, and every couple of weeks there's some major blowout or massive depression episode.Her mother is even worse.
how the fuck do I use vyper?>>537681640post pictures of your wife so we can validate your claims, preferably in lingerie with gloves and stockings.
>>537682749>how the fuck do I use vyper?You don't. She's dogshit.
>>537682704>every couple of weeks there's some major blowout or massive depression episodethe worst kind of womanrather die alone than go through this
>>537682749No, sorry, she's mine and I'm a jealous husband.
>>537682704Want some advice? Load her up with hgih dose vitamin d food, it really helps, but like a pet cat you have to be sneaky about it.
>>537682165yes
getting a double kill with a single vindicta scope should play a sound like the machina
In order to keep engagement up, I think Valve should run a concept art contest in the ballot box to see who should be the next character they work on is!
>>537682979I literally feed her vitamin D supplements, lol.Still doesn't do much.
HOW THE FUCK IS MATCHMAKING SO BAD WHY DO 50 IQ NIGGERS GET INTO MY GAMES AND JUST GO 0-15
>>537683060nah, I like surprises. they should roll out the original cast model redesigns and kit reworks, if any
>>537683087If that isn't working try some a + k as well. Theres gonna be some alphabetty spaghetti bullshit that will work.
>>537681874my prediction is stable at 20k concurrent for the next 6 months or so. I will say my matches are way more chill but probably worse quality. went from Oracle to Arcanist (which is fine, before when I played I would essentially be a anchor)
>play game>nazi_jew on team
>>537682408>>537682704According to my cartoons you have to keep your Scottish wife pregnant to survive.
>>537673068>all those cutshonestly idgaf about "tech" that nobody can do consistently
bergabuu is a nigger who should kill himself
>>537683458This works. I've got 5 kids. 4 of whcih are daughters.
Shiv bros? Explain yourselves>>537683398>capitain n word on the teamlove stupid names
>>537683184Low elo hell.I've had like 3 games in a row where half my time goes 0/10 while a enemy is a fed 27/0.The matchmaking is scuffed right now, why is someone who is obviously smurfing in my game?
>>537683550can you really smurf in a closed alpha
>>537683398>nazi>jewwhat?
>>537683458We don't have any kids...Maybe that's her problem...
>>537683667why would it matter? there are still ranks and mmr
>>537683667you can just invite yourself to the game yes. also elo decay put everyone who hadn't played in 6 months down to obscurace.
victor is too emobro needs to learn to smile
>>537683695Have you seen modern Israel?Netanyahu literally quoted the lebensraum speech.
>>537683503>name dropping bad teammates on 4chanGrow up faggot
>>537683908who said it's a teammate? that's one of the german furry discord mods
>>537683870Im jealous of Israel. They actually get to commit genocide while Germans get punished for not committing enough genocide.
>>537683870No I don't follow politics, but Jews can't be nazis.
why are seven players like this?
Raw spirit/bullet resist just feels so hard to fit in a build nowadays. Almost feels like a scam in a way. Other items can give almost as much resist but with a bunch of other benefits.Like I could spend 3200 for bullet resist or I could bullet vest + heroic aura for the same amount of resist but with a ton of other benefits, for only 1600 more total
>>537683184Not enough people playing a genuinely difficult to learn game = wild variety of skill levels in every game. Also even good players are just retards sometimes. It happens.
>>5376846231600 more total and 2 slots dumbass
>>537684623those items exist to punish teams that stack one damage type heavily and to reward players for realizing this and actually buying them in reaction.
>>537677204>ONE>MAN>ARMY
>>537684623they nerfed the shit out of the raw armors because they used to give like 45% for 4200.
>victor has dropped all the way down to 49% win rate in eternuskek
>be dynamo>lane against a chinese abrams>first blood him>he rage quits
>>537685090just shoot him
>>537684623They exist as a slot/cost economical solution if you're not going to full send on a tanky build. Yes, those two items are better if you're playing Dynamo and need to survive longer during a fight, but if the enemy has 5 all spirit heroes and you're playing Haze, the single item that gives more resists on one slot for a moderate price is the better buy since it doesn't cuck your entire build.
>be victor>farmed well and initiating as tank>my negative kd teammates still are too pussy to commit even when they have two or three down at certain times>1/6 holliday>1/8 pocket>2/5 vindicta>2/6 warden>even a literal FOID on haze is doing better than these pisslow nigger subhumansthis rank BLOWShow do you have performance anxiety in a fucking game just stop afk farming and do objectives or help your team na niggers
>>537685192what rank
>>537685272alchemist/arcanist
>>537682386He is ugly af, every fujo who gets off to him really has no taste
>>537685192People are stuck in the past and think this is Dota when the balancing is unironically closer to League's.Pushing lanes > 2 - 3 man skirmishes > Mid-boss >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything elseFarming camps at any point besides "I have pushed the lane in and will fucking die if I continue to do so" is too passive and game-losing.
>>537685090Thats what I thought. He really doesn't do anything and is more harmful to himself than anyone else when he turns on his stench aura. He has no real ult. Just a second chance to do nothing then die.
>>537685430he has one of the most defined jaws in the games
>>537682704This is beyond unhealthy, let her check her vitamin and hormonal situation. Last time I've went through this kind of shit turns out I was low on literally everything and had to eat half the alphabet for 6 months
>>537685592compared to fucking whothe most defined jaws are: abrams, lash, warden, GT, and shiv
>>537684115>dad what's the concentration camp we're being driven to called?>I don't know, I don't care about politics
>>537685506He's a good damage soaker and does probably the best job of keeping item auras and actives alive in a fight of anyone in the roster, but his actual ability impact on fights isn't that big, yes.Throwing Scourge on him and watching him slowly kill the enemy team as they shoot him instead of actual threats is funny, but stops working after a certain point since item actives are the only way he can actually force people to shoot him.
when does the "new" designator go away?
>>537685850Based Dad helping his child manage his ADHD.
>>537685979I would guess 1 week after Victor
>>537685506Yeah, his biggest problem is that if people were able to kill him once, killing him twice is easy. Still have him as my highest prio though, he is really fun.
>>537685497they definitely have nerfed jungle souls compared to troopers noticeably, so it just doesn’t make sense why they think this is the way to play
>stomp the shit out of enemy laners>their guardian is almost down>two of ours dies>"i-its fine we can stil-">hear railroad crossing bell behind me
I find myself doing consistently well on Warden but I wish he was a girl...
trapper should've gotten added not vyper.
>>537686817
>>537677343mina exists to be goonfuel
>>537687120He became a big titty redhead
>someone tells me in VC that I'm a cracked warden>neither of the two ingrates I'm in a discord call with
>Billy and Infernus feed 5 kills to Drifter before 6 minutes>Billy leaves right after the fucking "Match will not be recorded" time limit passedholy fuck I am so tired of this cancer ass character
>>537687293oh god your right this is a fucking nightmarewake me up
>>537687120he is busy cleaning shit
>>537681874I'm going to keep playing this game for the foreseeable future. So you have at least one more on board
>>537685664She's had bloodwork done and everything is in the "green".
>>537683546>it's the "lowest-net-worth, lowest-impact hero on the team feels the need to shit-talk after getting hyper-carried" episode
>>537681874>Do you guys think the playerbase will go back down to 10kyes after the new car smell wears offespecially because Drifter is literally 'Destroys shitters and makes their game unplayable" the character
>>537685592He has one of the most defined daddy issues in games lmaaaaao. I'd trust a fag whos into Abrams or Lash before a straight girl whos into the fucking frog shaggin gook cunt
>>537686817Weak mind
>teammate requests a lane swap>ask him what his rank is>he gets offended and says that's not relevant>swap with him>he goes 0-9 and whines about the enemy lane for 30 minutes until defeat
so why are people with bans on record allowed in the playtest?
>teammate requests a lane swap>no-one responds>we keep playing>him and I dominate our lane together and get such a huge lead that we snowball unstoppably:{ (that's a warden face)
>>537688479>game bancould be anything, why would valve care if some random dev gave out chat bans in their shit game
>>537688127>He is unaware of how the game structures the lane matchupsLane swaps and party matchmaking has been a disaster for fair and balanced matches.
>>537688479you can get a game ban on your record if the dev of some random multiplayer game doesn't like youyou're thinking of VAC bans
>>537688479That's not a VAC ban and I'm pretty sure people can still play even with vac bans
can someone explain how debuff resist works?
>>537688612>>537688716>>537688802bros got top 2% headshot rate playing full gun grey talon so i had to check
everyone except the highest caliber of players are behind on doorman. the fact that all of the popular builds are spirit, shows how retarded this player base is. his spirit damage falls off like CRAZY, the bell becomes fucking USELESS damage-wise mid to late game.Makes so much more sense to simply gun-max while using his abilities for their utility, prioritizing cart lvl 3 for its stun. think about it. the bell does all the inaccuracy debuff it will EVER do at lvl 1, ult is mostly utility with the same damage falloff issue as the bell so its main use is to lockdown players, and cart just needs to be lvl 3 for stun.why the fuck wouldnt you just go gun crazy and get headhunter, express shot, luckyshot, etc? Spirit Doorman builds are fucking RETARDED meanwhile his gun hits like a fucking truck if you hit the head
>wraith nigga on my team>always runs away to farm shit>instead of taking a 2v1yea nice farm my guy but you know killing them and pushing objectives wins us the game..
>>537687756heroes people who want to play will keep them in >>>> heroes who are big pubstompers will make them leavedrifter's winrate is continually dropping as well. abrams, ivy, and warden winrates are skyrocketing probably because they both make him eat shit
I love Victor so much, every game I stomp is punishment for those who didn't vote him sooner. I will dive your team, I will not die, I am Immortal, this is what you deserve.
>>537689029ummm umhmhmhmhm but what if he dies and his kda is ruined?
>>537688127>teammate requests a lane swap solely to be with his duo>I refuse on principle>pisslow nigger manually switches a minute in without telling anyone>forces me out of my lane to switch>both our lanes get stomped>lose in 20 minutesis shitlow just a melting pot of and crucible for the most worthless wastes of space to ever exist?
>shiv on lane>WHY WON'T SHIV GO DOWN! I NEED HELP KILLING SHIV! JUST DIE ALREADY!wtf is their problem?
>>537688891it reduces the debuff time by its percentage
>>537688958spirit doorman performs well and scales into mid game very strongly and can decisively win most skirmishes or even big teamfights with damage on bells + ults. not saying gun is weak, but they're both viable.
i do not like drifter's gun sound
>>537688127If you ask me what my rank is, I'm going to ask you how much you bench
>>537689473yea, it's more scratchy when it should be more rippy
>>537687697Well damn, BPD meds it is then
>>537689075in what elo retard? nobody cares about people above archon LMFAO
>>537689853oh it's riot shill. hey, are you gonna kill yourself when your company goes under?
>>537689853hey, inting asshole whose mother shitted him out of her ass: you aren't better than me because you're Archon. I shit-stomp shitters like you
>>537689075>be me>be abrams spammer>drigter niggers see me pushing lanes thinking they've got another ez kill>teleport in my kill range>get shouldered into the wall and gunned downGod I love curbstomping this idiot as Abrams, I swear I managed to kill drifters even on souls deficit
ranks outside of the very top of the ladder just do not fucking matter since the matchmaking is so shit
>>537688802>>537688716>>537688612you uhyou ever seen someone do that much more crit than regular?
>>537690143Abramsniggers are genuinely worse, no I won't take your parry gamble, no I won't play your melee game, yes I will gun you down like the dog you fucking are every chance I get in game
>>537690143ya it's like...most of the OG cast already push drifter's shit in. warden has shield and his root to punish him. he can last stand and just randomly run anywhere if drifter ults.abrams shoulders/pstrikes and he's neutered. ivy can stun him or just fly away with teammate whenever.
>>537690262fairly often since headshots give extra damage
>deal zero damage to victor because he just heals it all back up>buy crippling headshot>suddenly he dies in 0.5 millisecondsWow it was that easy, huh?
>>537690046take your meds
>>537690282>implying I'm playing melee AbramsPress F to self stun more>>537690313Is there any hero which doesn't get countered by Warden in one way or another? Maybe long range flying fucks but thats what Phantom Strike is for
GIVE PAIGE A UNIQUE RIGHT CLICK
It's absolutely retarded that Billy and Drifter can go fucking 2/9 and not be totally irrelevant considering how fucking oppressive they are with a lead
>>537690331yeah well somehow i don't believe he has 15% higher headshot rate than every top 10 grey talon on the leaderboard
>>537690778lash can just jump away and usually builds into stamina mastery, there's a ton of others that do fine vs warden. but drifter is vastly overrated, off the top of my head he's hard countered by abrams, ivy, mo, yamato, warden, probably some tanky frontliners I'm forgetting. high elo drifters will eventually have to invest into more greens just to survive and slowing hex at the least.
I know this game will be waved when we get a twitch ethot streaming in mina cosplay with her tits out
>>537690778it's why I always check conventionally melee heroes' builds )))))>>537690470I mean that legitimately makes sense, I feel like if you just have at least one healbane/crippling headshot/spirit burn he goes down pretty easy
>>537691054Spirit burn doesn't work too good because it's easy for him to dispel it with his 2 and healbane doesn't work too good because it's kind of a small amount of healing reduction but crippling works really well because not only does it reduce his healing but it cuts down his spirit resist that he built for and then he kind of kills himself.
>>537690470Okay but what if I cant hit headshots because im an alchemist rank
>>537690873Feast or famine
>>537691054His 2 is fucking stupid with the cleanse. I've been playing pocket just to deal with with his fucking stupid hold W playstyle.
>>537691353He just walks towards you man as long as you hit 1 every 8 seconds it works
>crouching alt fire on shiv>slides back on his kneescool
>>537690778how do you build Abrams then? I'm still new to Deadlock but this was my best game so farphantom strike > charge > guaranteed heavy melee was pretty fun
>>537688645>He is unaware of how the game structures the lane matchupswait how does it work
>>537669248I am so glad Mina existsNow Yamato will probably looj like some mature jap beauty
>they replaced priest's flashbang firebomb with a smoke bombUHHHH VENATORBROS????
>>537691370More like feast or still have a good mealThey are bullshit
You can afflict walkers?????
>>537692051it should be grey unless it kills someone then it's white
>>537692209you can apply any debuff in the game besides hard CCs to buildings, including damage amps and ults
>Bro just heckin build counter items>In lane vs drifter and McGinnis>Build suppressor>literally not even perceivable change to their damage outfit or RoFebin
>>537692051Every time he uses the smoke bomb a new pope is selected.
>>537692354what heros were you and your lane partner playing?
is migu being a career woman actually played completely straight ? this is the 20s or 40s where you could buy 10 mansions on a janitor's salary so working for the bad evil guy corporation just to pay her mortgage seems extreme.does she need the money to fund her own secret company with the purpose of putting a huge sentry gun on the moon ? is she coping by taking the money because she knows if she didn't, they'd do anything to keep her on, like threatening her family ? is she just really bad at paying taxes and always pays them late and has to pay extra because of that ?also I just went 60k 30 kills on drifter autopiloting while thinking about this, god this hero sucks
>>537692354When I play yam the fire rate slow is very noticable
>>537692351I realized that for damage amp and ults but pocket ulting a walker is so unintuitive (700 hours)
>>537691727Looks good for a new player. I don't think Arctic Blast is very good though, pick Crushing Fists if you want to punch people or Colossus to tank more. Phantom Strike and Arctic Blast are luxuries. Also, go with debuff reducer/remover if people are parrying you since it reduces the stun length.
>>537692515Mina + Doorman
>>537692563>phantom strike is luxuryno way. one of the best first t4s on abrams unless they're going full spirit, then spellbreaker.
>>537691038Drifter gets countered by anyone who 1) has a stun 2) doesnt die in two hitsBut thats the issue for every feast or famine character really
>>537689323it's okay he got to have a good kda and high farm but lost in the end.
>>537692634yikes, that is a rough match-up. i would have just bought monster rounds and spammed rake on minions for regen while playing as safe as possible, saving her 2 to get over the wall
>>537691772Lane assignments are determined by player rating. The game will attempt to create fair matchups. In effect when you queue with your pisslow friends, they get segregated into a lane against other pisslow players while you get to play against people who are the same rank as you. When you swap you are rolling the dice. You could end up in way over your head or you could be stomping kittens.
>>537692516le evil man fairfax pays her incredibly well and she gets to work on stuff she loveswin win in her book and she doesnt care about poorfags silly morals
>>537692634Miku Ginnis can kind of just walk at those two so I wouldn't feel bad about losing lane badly.
Why do I win more with Mina than Geist...I want to be good with Geist
>>537669851Juggernaut hero as indian representation.
>>537692818huh, guess im gonna stop accepting lane swaps going forward
>>537689363bell feels like caca past ten minutes. good luck putting a dent into any tanky character at all with it. whereas gun build you can literally 1v1 a mo
Rescue Beam gotta be the most frustrating item to use, you might pull a retarded post ult Mina off a 1v4 fight when she have 10% left you'll somehow get blamed for preventing their incredible keikaku or be the reason they die two minutes later.
>>537692703I meant luxury as in not the first t4 I'd pick unless you're really stomping the enemy
????
>>537693012hopefully your 5 other team mates can deal with the tanks while you bell and ult their carries. spirit doorman can also grab whatever utility item like KD, silence, whatever and still perform, gun doorman needs to more rigidly invest into yellow.
>>537692961thats metal as fuck...
I miss the old mid-boss temple
>>537693156Having an eye in the middle seems a bit tacky lmao
>>537692516That's like asking if Raytheon engineers earning 1 million per year feel bad
>>537691054I don't think theres any ''conventionally melee'' hero left in the game, tnx icefrog for caving in to shitters demands and nerfing it into the throwing territory. >b-but BillyI've seen people build him tank + gun a lot so idk>>537691727My build may not be optimal, but it sure is the most fun and I've tried every other build too. Its basically full gun build with a tinge of spirit to get some value off his 1 adn1-2 slots dedicated to counter items and/or Counterspell. So basically:>Titanic Mag, Point Blanc, Swift Strike, Berserker, Burst Fire, Glass Cannon, Merc Magnum, Surge of power (thinking about replacing this one), Leech>greens and counter items situational
>priest has voice acting for his second abilitythe voice lines are pure soul
>>537692818that actually explains a lot lol
What do you build on Yamato anoncitos? I feel like gun build sucks, but spirit Yamato isn't that good either. Weird character to build tbqh bur spinning to my inevitable kamikaze death never gets old
>>537692703I'm usually picking it as a counter item, its the case of so many good items, so few slots (don't forget the Counterspell slot tax)>>537692961Literal Nurgle cultists
>>537693636?I loaded him up and I still saw flashbang
>>537692847>>537692516oppenheimer if she was based
>>537693156lash btfo even more
>>537693728What does that have to do with literally anything?
>>537693636He better be reading bible verses
This game is confusing as fuck having only played League for maybe 5 hours total. How do I get better and make better builds with and for Victor, Abrams, and Sinclair? They're the 3 that grabbed my attention the most and I don't wanna be useless to my team forever
>>537688716spoken like a true cheaterknew they posted here
>>537693301It was cool having a unique center setpiece, something that really stood out among the samey buildings
>>537693636Are the lines on the voiceline viewer site? I'm only seeing the placeholder VA lines.
>>537692516Nah she's based and does it for the love of the game, fuckload of money is a nice bonus
>>537693994read the itemsread your character's abilitieschoose the items that benefit your character and your playstyle on that character the mostit's the only way to actually learn the game, following a guide isn't going to teach you shit.
>>537693825the shop keep VA is temp and I don't see a smoke grenade replacing the flashbang. unless you're a secret club leaker.
it takes way too long to rank up
>>537693994rely on builds from pro players (off the top of my head ABL's Victor is good) but don't depend on them overmuch; it takes several hundred hours but you start to develop a sense for "vibe shopping" wherein you just sort of have the core build in mind but also know when and where to pick situational items based off available slots and money. shopping is a skill in and of itself
I fully expect the priest character to be pozzed
>>537690989how many grey talons play gun again
>>537693994There's nothing wrong with copying existing builds while you're still learning and altering them according to your playstyle and/or what seems fun
>our team has fed the everliving shit out of Drifter>we're 20k behind in souls>enemy takes urn>GUYS TIME TO BROOL WE CAN'T LET THEM HAVE THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHO CARES IF YOUR ULTIMATE IS ON COOLDOWN WE BROOLING>WHERE WERE YOU OMG!!!!?!?!?!?!?
>>537694416I have high hopes, Valve did it with Grigori, they can do it again>inb4 hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
Thoughts on support mina? Like duration extender to increase ult silence time, rescue beam where I bat to high ground and drag teammates to me, ect.?
>>537694529only way to come back when you're 20k behind is to get picks lol
>>537693232>hopefully your 5 other team mates can deal with the tanks while you bell and ult their carriesspirit build doesnt make a difference there though, you get all the utility of those abilities without investing into spirit at all
I thought you guys said Shiv sucks? Why is this dude destroying my team right now. I don't even know what this dude does!
>>537694613You should hit yourself for even daring to think of such an idea
>>537693994Like everyone is saying, just follow top builds. With time you'll get a sense of deviating from them a bit ("I'm getting my shit pushed in" -> rush green items, "I'm stomping the enemy" -> rush damage items etc.)There are way too many items in the shop so don't bother trying to learn them all right now and look for builds with annotations and descriptions of the intended playstyle
>>537684115Retard.
>>537694634funnily enough it wasn't enough for the urn to be on our side of the map so it was a shit fight, by the time I Was there they were all dead and killed literally no one lolone guy kept mumbling about Drifter into the mic the entire fight like "how is he so powerful I can't... I can't kill him" and dying to him over and over again.
>>537694416Dont you fucking dare. Get that monkey's paw out of this general.
>>537694529Enemy picking urn is literally your chance to gather as 5-6 and gank these cunt + get some comeback gold as a result, you're the one making shit calls in this situation. Go help your team salvage the game retard.
>>537694613You should hug yourself for daring to dream of such an idea.
>>537694842Brown.
>>537694907In what imaginary game does a losing team not get pressured enough in lanes to group up for an urn gank
>>537694907only if it is on your side of the map and your draft is good in close quartersif it's in the open and the enemy has a fed Vindicta and other long range heroes it's stupid to rush in and die one by one like my team did, read: >>537694873
>>537694701they're both viable and only a retard would stick rigidly to one build without considering the team comp or what items everyone is building. welcome to dota.
Haven't played in a longass time, whats the lampwife status? any notable changes to Paradox?She good atm?
>>537688479It's not VAC so they don't care.
>>537694613retardedyour ult doesn't get extended by duration extender and the silence refreshes each time you hit someone with a bat.all you're doing is paying a ton of souls to add 0.3s of silence to the end of your ult.rescue beam probably isn't that bad of an idea since you're always in the back anyways but that doesn't mean you should buy full support items.
>>537695317She's been nonstop nerfed but is still decent
>We regret to inform you that negros are forbidden from entering the Baroness, it's simply policy, our apologies...
>>537694907>Group up to gank urn>Lose 2 more walkers
>>537690838No. Support characters MUST have dogshit-feeling guns. This is the law.
>>537694613Anything can work
>>537695239im telling you straight up, that in the situations you outlined, you only benefit from the utility of those abilities, which do not require spirit items. how do you plead
>>537695626>Give "support" character good guns>They just build gun itemsIt has to be this way
>>537694416Most characters who comment on him say he's unhigned so he's probably just some crazy monster hunter.
>buy warp stone>literally just go it so enemy doesn't know>blink and light punch someone>get parriedThis HAS to be fucking autoparry, like I pressed both at once.
>>537695746I've tested gun doorman in the sandbox, you're heavily limiting his damage output and potential by not sticking rigidly to certain gun items. he can absolutely destroy tanks, but he cannot spare more than a single slot for it.spirit doorman on the other hand can grab 1-2 utility items without it affecting his output much. now hold my hand and pray with me.
Okay I've got enough Wraith and Warden games under my belt, who should I try out next.
>>537695132Its a 50% probability, either team groups up or doesn't>>537695560Not on my watc. I'm the designated lane pusher and walker defender, I end up top souls in the team all the time because literally noone else does it>t. pisslow
>>537696018Play Kelvin!
>>537695783I said their guns must FEEL like dogshit. Whether they're good or bad is irrelevant. They have to FEEL bad to use, entirely divorced from actual power level.
>>537695783As it should be, support is not a real role and shouldn't exist in games made by and for adults>>537696018You should wait for another hero starting with W>>537695840Oh hell no, how about an actually decent person and not an another crazy trigger happy priest
>>537696123I don't play as ginger characters.
>>537696018Webop and Wrifter
what are you meant to do when you just fucking die whenever you show your face in an 100ft vicinity of the enemy team?
>>537696263Well I get souls when I kill him, so his gingerness is fake
>>537696303You got it set to M for Mina, when it should be W for Wina
>>537692818This becomes especially noticeable if you start looking for it. Makes me wonder if the strat with characters who don't do so good in lane is to always ask for a lane swap, since it's 50/50 on if you're going into a harder lane (doesn't do anything, you were gonna lose lane anyways) or an easier lane (compensates for your character being weak in laning)
>pocket is a sad asian kid who came into posession of a magic briefcase full of ghosts, so his kit involves unleashing them (1, 4) doing the reverse and hiding in the case himself, and he does a bit more melee damage because he brains you with itbut why can he throw a ghost version of his coat that hurts people and also swaps his position?
>>537696494It's a magical coat owned by his dad
>>537695918this does sound like bullshit but because of counterspell there are definitely characters where I'll just hard read a parry so you might've fallen victim to that
>>537695840>Unhingedkino inbound.
>>537670902For me, the fix ended up being just building Ricochet + Lucky Shot + Split Shot on McGinnis. But you have to play it like the old days of Anti-Mage in Dota. No fighting in mid-game. You maybe KINDA fight in lane phase but once lane phase is over you just farm cause people have bought their early defensive items and are too tanky to fight now until you hit said powerspike.
>>537696587the sentient cloak groomed him into running away
Walkers die too fast in this game. Someone should not be able to solo push a t2 tower at 15 minutes especially in a game with no teleport scrolls
>>537696852that's why you're supposed to watch your map and not let troopers reach your shit.
>>537696852Speaking more broadly, the game is way too "win-more". The team with any moderate advantage just snowballs into a blowout victory
>I'll give my virginity for the cause>but first>I'll take yours
>>537696852you dont need teleport scroll because the game has vertical movement so you can take a straight line to the tower instead of having to go around
>>537696494it's supposed to come off his model but they don't have the technology for that yet
Both Infernus and Lady Geist have such good pallets. Dynamo too.
>>537696852You have 6 goobers and only 3 lanes. You should be able to solve this.
>>537697118>Both Infernus and Lady Geist have such good pallets. Dynamo too.wat
>>537697118are you trying to say palette or do you really mean... >>537697190 yeah...
>>537697138Im in low elo so usually I have 4 or 5 goobers pushing middle for no reason or farming our jungle even when we're ahead
>>537697190>>537697263>they don't know about the warehouselmao
ivy is feeding
>win lane>go farm for a second and get boxes>see wave coming>troopers and enemy laners take the guardiando i really have to babysit this shit
Astarion vs Mina
>>537688479Deadlock is a cheater's paradiseYou can invite as many alts as you please and they don't even get banned much
>green item shivactually unkillable lmao
>>537697489Thats how guardians work. They are just a minor inconvenience for the laning phase. After that they fall over if you breathe on them. Don't worry too much about them. Its the walker that you need to prioritize keeping safe.
>>537696801Ah yes, the Heavy TF2 LARP, but it mogs the actual Heavy in every conceivable way, unironically.
>>537697489Yes nigga wave is #1 priority everytime
Priest doesn't seem unhibged but he's definitely one of the most hardboiled heroes of the cast.
>>537697008YepUrn is also the shittiest comeback mechanic of all time
>Priest>Summoning a random extra planar deitywokeslop
kevin is kind of a nigger character, especially when teamed up with close range nigger like drifterdo you buy disarm or silence for beam ? I know the real answer is juggernaut but I want him to suffer
>>537698141>vatican looking to make a deal with a pagan entity/x/ pilled
They could just copy and paste the demoman in this game and itd feel fine
>>537698141Warden wants to summon the patron to destroy it
>>537698225I would honestly prefer the Medic.
>>537695840>>537696251Based on the dialogue about him, he's a legendary vampire hunter who works for the Vatican. He doesn't seem unhinged, just very dedicated
she's good
>>537695840Which ones?All the dialogue points to Priest being the Vatican's top hunting dog. Like Haze but better.
why isnt the ult bonus for bats associated Mina 3 instead of 4 so she can start building it immediately...?
>We make a good team!Thanks infernus. I'll kill seven a dozen more times and then queue.
>>537697489waves give you more money then jungle specifically to stop fags like you from not playing the game for 40 minutes
>>537698732Cause it's really easy to build stacks in lane
>>537697489>Won lane>Didn't push the lane into their tower with another wave on the way before doing shitSounds like you didn't actually win at all.
>>537698524Elaborate. What are you doing that everyone else is doing wrong?
>>537698225demo doesn't have a fitting left click, soldier works way better with shotgun and then some combo of rocket/banner/boots/melee for his 1234
>>537695959yes im telling you there is almost no reason not to stick rigidly to those gun items (minus maybe spirit duration for added stun length on cart lvl 3)lets narrow this down, you'd never buy tankbuster on doorman right? that would be insane. even with all the cooldown reduction in the world, that isnt making your abilities help damage wise in fights at all, and if you just want to help utility wise, all you really need at most is duration. yet despite this, i see tankbuster on almost EVERY popular doorman build, why?
>>537699114Playing in bot lobbies
>>537699114she's good but her winrate is tanked by braindead waifufags who can't pilot a glass cannon
>>537697025Cute. CUTE!
>>537696134what do you mean feel? animations? fx?
>>537699179Maybe because it procs on 3 of his 4 abilities?
>>537698907>it's really easy to buildno it isn't
>>537699114first of all the build, using about what Eido's build is using instead of buying dogshit like gun items or multiple health items. it's a spirit glass cannon hero, that's all you need to dopractice and limit test to find the limits, then play around them. the buff to her T3 bats was very good, she's so slippery and hard to kill now
holiday seemed really stylish and fun to master until I realized you just jump melee to spike barrels at your feet and her headshot passive kinda sucks because geist has a way better revolver then the cowboy somehow. kinda just feels like worse lash where you bounce over someone and drop barrels while tossing 1 guy into walker instead of slamming down and tossing the whole push
>>537699228
>>537699179go to sandbox. spawn abrams. max level both of you. now, put on all the standard tank anti-gun stuff. bullet vest, bullet res, juggernaut, plated armor. that's how I do my gun builds. if you don't want a limp dick doorman, you'll find what works and what doesn't against the usual tank.
>Gentlemen, we just made yet another hero shooter 10 years too late>How can we differentiate ourselves from the other games so it doesn't feel the same?>I know, let's add the worst parts of MOBA games like farming and grinding>What a great idea, let's also add shops and items that add nothing to the game but change numbers, making it extremely unpleasant to play for 40 minutes when the enemy has snowballed and you can't do anything about it.>12.000 players right now
>>537699474Yes it is? You're constantly exchanging shots the whole time
>>537699309do you know what procs 10 times more often than his abilities? his gun
I wonder how this match will end
>>537699578What do you mean "add" this is a moba from the ground up and it has 40k players right nowIs this post from 1 year ago?
no no no haha what is this bro
>>537697489There are camps near the guardian. Focus on those. Then push wave again. If the enemy keeps pressuring and it's 1v1, kill them or make them run. Don't fight under enemy zip lines although it's super easy to vault half across the map with them though. Guardians are made of paper after the 10 minute mark basically.
>>537699883wrong general lil bro
>>537699786This post is from 3 days ago and will be relevant in 3 days again>b-b-but it's a beta>this is a moba from the ground upIt's a failed hero shooter and a failed moba game ; Valve lost the zoomers by not releasing games when they were younger and now noone cares.
>>537699883It's still crazy to me Groomer Dane leaked itThen all the seething tf2roons immediately started making videos about an alpha build lmao
>>537698524Every Mina I've laned with has been utter fucking trash. They don't know how to pressure. They take hits they shouldn't. They don't last hit and then they leg it as soon as the enemy as much as dodges towards us.
Cool Drifter pick bro*rapes you*
>>537685151Even in that scenario Haze is almost always going to prefer an early emblem
>>537700103gj beating drifter with an equally broken hero who hard counters him
>>537700075some matchups are really hard to pressure, she doesn't really do anything in lane before the 2400/3200 soul mark (extraspirit+mystic burst+cold front)even proccing bites is just a waste of time before the first 2 items
>>537699969TF2 is deadlocks grandpa though
>>537699883Valve is shit and can't maintain a game from 15 years ago, let it create a new one.I think you were trying to imply I like TF2? No, you just confirmed that valve sucks balls.
>>537700075I'm not the anon that posted his stats, but I'm honestly fine losing upwards of 400 health for a love bites proc and a rake. You can easily heal that amount by killing a few minions and hopefully your lane partner was able to get some shots off while you were getting beaten to a pulp. Really, the main takeaway is that you heal in lane and they don't.
>>537699883Imagine how dead this game must be, that I recognize this poster from months ago, where every time someone points out how dead the game is, they get mad and critizice TF2 as if it wasn't also a valve game. Just how fucking retarded you have to be.
>>537700291>coldfrontI fucking hate this item. Every hero picks it and it makes the game boring as fuck. >oh cool this guys 1 ability + coldfront>oh cool this guys 2 ability + coldfront>oh cool this guys 3 ability + coldfront>oh cool this guys 4 ability + coldfront>time to inspect enemy items>coldfront>coldfront>coldfront>coldfront>coldfront>coldfront
>>537700103legitimately besides Vindicta what the fuck was the rest of your dogshit team doing? evaded the state-mandated loss, good work
>>537699883OH NONONO PFFF HAAAAA
>>537700517They don't call it Deadlock for nothing
>>537698225they can just sell a billy scout skin for 10000 dollars
>>537700517yeah whatever. the game is dead. Everyone disperse from the general. Nothing to see here folks.
>>537699630and? It takes 0.5s to step behind any of the 5000 pieces of cover on the map and invalidate it
not whoever you're schizing about
Might be the worst stats I've seen
Viscous is an IQ gate
>>537700601>no no no see there are actually hundreds of thousands of players who can't stand to play TF2 for more than 20 minutes!
>>537700876at least he pushed
>>537700876He got the objectives bro what more do you want
>>537700776You will keep bumping and samefagging it so might as well laugh at you.I will also come back from time to time, specially when they abandon the game like they did with Artifact and Underlords, to laugh at your face one last time.
>>537701017is this the new ginnis pusher?
>>537700876kills mean nothing throne means everything
>>537700948>>537701017He did literally nothing but push green lane the entire game it was hilarious.
>>537700876>>537700948>>537701017>people defending a literal botif you have 0 assists you are objectively worthless. I don't care if you take the throne singlehandedly by yourself. you are dogshit and don't understand the game
>have a miserable lane >still win because the enemy team has mina>rinse repeat maybe it's time for another lengthy break
kek
>>537701221your jsut jealous he gets more objective damage than u
>>537701221take a chill grenade bro
>Soloq>Do good just about everytime, sometimes carry, lobbies range between Archon-Phantom >Play with friends>Highest average rank is ritualist usually lower though>Games are the sweatiest most brutal rapefests I've ever encountered>Usually for most of the game 3-4 highly organized players are just roaming around gaping anyone they find Is smurfing this common wtf
I stopped playing back in November and came back recently, why did they go back on Calico’s turret thing? It’s the only thing I remember from her hero lab
>>537683490Especially in the sheer chaos of an actual escape situation.
>>537701302>Mina is evil>Yamato is evilDon't tell me the inevitable chinese chick will be evil tooValve making all the east asians bitches
>>537701461because it sucked and everyone hated it
>>537701461they castrated her cat
>>537701461It was Techies 2.0 so they just made her a Pocket/Yamato hybrid without playtesting it
>>537701376yes, everyone of those eternus players has like 3 alts so they can queue
>team is all dead>we have to watch geist push green for no reason whilst they take yellow and blue walkersame dude did urn during midboss fight
>billy doesn't sound like a punk at alldoorman's voice cast was so good why is billy's so bad>no harsh gravel from constant screaming and smoking>no aggression>just some dorky suburban black guysuch a terrible cast
>>537699883no king rules forever bro, I'm just happy I was there for it at its peak15 years was a fucking amazing run
do any of you niggers do anything other than just complain about your teammates? i get it you are gods gift to deadlock nothing is ever your fault please stop talking about your shit games
>>537701872Billy doesnt sound black you retards
>>537701872That's kind of the point, he's supposed to be pathetic
>>537701221>i don't care if you [win the game] by yourself you are objectively worthless for not being a brooling retard like mewhatever you say bro
>>537699717i dont understand how some people farm incredibly fast on himhad a drifter i beat the fuck out of in lane and he comes back 5min later 10k ahead of me and everyone else in the game while i was trying to help my useless teammatescompletely ran away with the game as mediocre player
>>537701376when you party up you get matched up with other people who party up
>>537702017the whole "aggressive, argumentative retard with no goals" is the pathetic parthim sounding like a limp wristed dork just makes the character seem incoherent
>>537701872I think billy is a fresh out of high school guy that makes ACAB graffities
>>537702123>smell blood>rape someone and steal their walletWatch out for homeless drifters while walking around New York. Do not make eye contact. DO NOT be on your period!
>>537701872hes whitehave you ever met a punk? those guys are either basically homeless or rich kids
>10 kills>0 deaths>farms constantly>haze with 9 deaths still has more souls than meI just don't get it
>>537702301Nah Billy is clearly modeled out of those retarded college aged fags who join antifa.Valve is in Seattle so they have first hand experience with those types.
>>537702545unironically it's probably hotpoojust look at his twitter history
>>537701837Solo pushing a walker is way better of an idea than trying to solo defend a walker though
>>537701872he is a larper
>>537683550>he thinks it stops happening outside of "low elo"lol, lmao even.
Even, Baldur's Gate IIIOdd, Deadlock
>>537692405>Build CD reductionWe successionmaxxing now
>>537702936Enjoy getting ass fucked by a bear shape shifter, I really need to get around to finishing BG3.
>>537700876Viscous is a love and hate hero for me. I like his kit, but it feels stupid weak and hard to land his goo punches. His 1 is so slow it's easy to dodge. His ball gets stuck on infinite loops in small areas with no way to recover. His cube is ass long cooldown. Doing movement tech with him isn't hard but doesn't really get you kills either unless you're ahead. His gun has no zoom but has that slow as shit ball that's only good with exrpess shot memes, which is not fun either.
>>537702797there was nothing to take in the lane
>>537701837did you want him to 1v6?
>>537702038did he win? no.
>>537701508Yamato isn't evil, she just thinks she's better than gaijin pig American foreigners despite the fact she is a foreigner in America
>>537703086>His gun has no zoom but has that slow as shit ball that's only good with exrpess shot memesHe starts out with a decent fire rate, mag size, and his gun is automatic. Going all in on his gun is very fun imqho. But his goo punch and goo splatter could use some light buffs, nothing crazy but just a little boost.
>>537701872You can LITERALLY see his WHITE skin.
>2035>be a deadlock playerwow I can't believe they nerfed seven
>>537703493It's sad to see Viscous get fallen behind by all these new punch heroes. I build punch on him but don't last longer than a few hits in a fight against Billy or Victor and Drifter is a fed fucker who just melts you or blinds you and it's gg.
>>537703720>5% damage nerf on his ballit's over sevenbros... our first nerf and it guts the character...
>>537703404She's literally a mob boss and kills people for the most minuscule shit
>>537700525would you prefer 4 abilities and boring stat stick?
>>537701508literally every character in this game is evil, yes even ivy
>>537703964I'd prefer if coldfront was removed from the game.
>>537703879imo his punch build needs way too long to get online and outside of ball youre super squishyprob much more viable to just go spirit plus recharge and spirit steal, then pivot into lifestrike/cf
>>537702123i think people are starting to learn that Drifter's not mean to farm, but rather ambush the niggers that do the farming
>>537704115Viscous has done nothing wrong tho>B-But he's killing peo-Should have shown some concern for The Deep.
>>537704115abrams and dynamo aren't evil
>>537704314I hope his final design is a deep diver suit with a skeleton he took over but valve doesn't have the nads to do it
>>537704553dynamo will TRAP and BETRAY his wife
>>537704314>le wholesome 100 heccin chunguserino reddit character xD :3
>>537704249build ID so I get what you're talking about
uhhh you guys told me mina was bad and useless?
>>537704754But enough about Ivy.
>>537704761she's popular because she's an attractive vampire bitch and thus retards pick her and lose
I sympathize with the green goober, but are all these anons forgetting when he was the tryhard hero with absurd everything?>demon gun>slime nukes>death punchesAll in the same build.>>537702529The only real downside to dying is that you can't help your team win fights and you can't farm. This effectively means that, timed correctly, there's basically no penalty to dying for the first 20 minutes (give or take). The only exception to this are the snowball heroes and even then it's mostly just drifter since his scaling is absurd. You could feed a Mina all game and still out farm and stomp her ass after 30 minutes.
>>537704761based splithpooshing victor
>>537704759build ball, level fists after ball and goobut instead of shit like spirit burn build fast recharge, spirit steal, lifestrike and crushing fists late so you can punch people around in and outside of ball
>>537699552yes, with all of that on, you have a better chance 1v1'ing the Abrahams with a max gun build and spirit duration and stunning with cart + belling into headshots if your next argument is to say "doorman isnt a 1v1 character he's a support" Yes, however which of these is bettera doorman who can 1v1 and still has all of the utility of his abilities because none of them require spirit items to get fantastic use out of (accuracy debuff on bell is as potent as it will ever be lvl 1, cart just needs lvl 3 and spirit duration which also helps bell and hotel) or a doorman who just has the same utility he'd have anyway, and only half the damage boost through spirit items
is there any downside for losing the ritual?
>>537704761>15k souls more than the 2nd richest>still less kills, barely more player damage and half the obj damage than billy
>>537705465>which is betterwhichever doorman is adapted to the match. this is dota. this entire game is balanced like dota. I'll go spirit doormen when we need knockdown and silence ASAP. I'll go gun doorman if we have nothing but spirit, piss poor objective plinking, and need a tank killer.
>>537705497you get your tongue burned on rlly hot coffee
is gun warden viable because my team raged when i built the supermax build
>>537700256how the fuck does viktor counter drifter?>>537700103>drifter still goes 17-8 almost single handedly keeping his team in the gamegood fucking lord
>>537704115McGinnis is morally grey tho, not evil.>"I can't be arsed to fix any of the shit going on, leave me the fuck alone with your problems and let me just work on the shit I care about."But despite that she's glad at least SOMEONE is doing something about it, given her line to Ivy, thanking her for making New York a slightly better place.
>>537705672in what situation would you even go spirit doorman over gun doorman? if you can shred a tank you can shred anyone, and like i mentioned earlier, you still have all the utility of your abilities with gun doorman
>>537705497The dragon balls scatter and you have to collect them all to attempt the ritual again.
>>537701794>>537702216It's actually both of these things.
It feels like Doorman was made for me, he's kind of shitty in pubs at least in shitlow but you get to be such an annoying faggot and target anyone you don't like on the enemy team. The other day I stole the enemy teams double sinners and this Yamato caught me into the act and I just disappeared into a portal, he started targeting me after that so I made him the focus of my knockdown + cart hate criming all game.
>>537706071he is a pure rage inducing character without being OP, Im enjoying him a lot
who should i play if i don't care about winning and just want the enemy team to be miserable
>>537705938>what situationno spirit damage dealers, they have a seven, lash, vindicta, and ivy (aka ton of fliers). his ult also scales very well making forcing carries to actually try for the exit, maxing the duration possible.this is not league of legends, you play the build the comp calls for.
i dont understand how people are doing this immortal viktor stuff. Feels like if you dont get 12 miles ahead early game its just not gonna happen
>>537669649This image but with a receptionist bell and silly chinstrapped hat
What do you even buy on gun Doorman? Kdash, point blank, opening rounds?
>>537704553>>537705873willing to kill people they don't know for personal gain because an elder god promised them something = evil.
>>537707204Okay Twitter.
>>537707204>killthey survive actually
>>537707571yeah I'm sure all the lines where even the nicest characters like dynamo explicitly talk about how they just killed someone to death with that stomp are actually just lies
>>537707683they come back
>>537706908kdash, express shot, hollow point, glass cannon
>>537706459Bebop and Doorman
i fucking hate paige players. litertally ALL OF THEM on my team play this like its overwatch support. oh my fucking god man thay are always negatige
>>537695317paradox is broken again they finally gave her back 20% bullet damage
>>537708036don't worry girls usually stop playing after a while
>>537708036
>>537708036This is what I love about Paige players on the enemy team. Nothing makes me feel better than finding a Paige player by herself on the map, isolated without her duo / carry she's attached herself to like a parasite, always a shitty player ripe for the picking so you can just run them down while they desperately try to run away throwing all their utility at you
>enemy team communicates, clearly working together, chaining abilities, assisting>I cant get basic shit, have 3 muted teammates>forced lossunacceptable design, I won't be playing again
>>537708302>no item slots unlockedthe cherry on top
>>537708363Read in a cajun accent
>>537708036I really like her because she's flexible as fuck and has an amazing gun and she shits out damage with dragon. But I also spam support Pugna and I feel like most people dont play her like that.
>>537708432should've brought friends dorkus
>>537708363I love playing against drifter as Paige, and literally face fucking him with my book + dragon
>>537708516I'm phantom, but I was already on a losing streak with my new friends being garbage
I think I found the optimal way to play Doorman>Mystic expansion + Cultist's for high door range so you can still invest points into the actual good shit>Build mostly gun>Just splitpush all game because you're always going to have insane pressure since you can just ult someone away at an objective>Do a cheeky urn run with crazy door range every now and again
>>537708702gib me ur build id
>>5377088068675309
I'll never understand edge jumping.
>>537708867>Fuck my stupid viktor life
>>537708702I haven't made it yet just theorycrafting while waging, I've played a lot of spirit Doorman and it isn't bad but it feels like you realistically have 0 impact, his kit can VERY easily be utilized to make him a god tier splitpusher, nobody else can shut down a potential defender as good as he can + he has great wave clear. Early game you still build some spirit to lane bully (prob mystic burst, extra charge, QSR on bell) then you just start investing into gun.
Give Mina percent health damage
Crazy you have to build to counter Viktor no matter what. And if no one on your team does except you, he’ll steamroll them when you’re not there to babysit. t. Watch him spawn-dive 4 of my team and kill them
>>537709695It's like old Shiv again.
>>537706459Echo BebopImbue your hook and do nothing but chaingrab the squishiest member of their team.
>>537708036She's incredibly useful played that way IF you don't tunnel vision like a nigger on pure numbers and actually make an attempt to protect yourself from rapedives with item actives.If Paige doesn't have at least 3k health and make M&K look like easy targets, she's playing wrong.
>>537709695I don't see how people have issues dealing with Victor unless some literal retard fed him in lane 10-0, but at that point ANY hero is a fucking problem. Any time I fight Victor in lane he's either dead half the time trying to force shit he shouldn't be or I starve him out by shoving wave, taking his jungle and then melting him later on. Real issue is Billy imo.
>>537709695>waaah why can't my haze just buy coldfront and shit on everyone waaah>waaah why can't my infernus just press sprint and he dies while following me waaah>waaah why can't my seven just press ultimate and wipe teams anymore waaahDude, just play Doorman. Literally hard counters Victor and with only 1x item.
>>537709695>"Oh my goood we have to kill him three times!">My entire team as he gets CC'd to hell in front of 5 people while overextendedHe's broken, obviously, but it's still pretty easy to just rape him to death if you actually have crowd control.
>>537708432you sound passive aggressive and this probably comes through in your attempts to communicate your team
*raises paw*I don't think victor is that good.
>>537710935>pawNeck yourself immediately.
>another game where the team with the sweaty drifter winsnerf his ass already icefraud wtf
i just went 18-4 with warden hahahahahaha this character is fcuking amazing im literally running halfway across the map in 4 seconds to solokill splitpush rats
>spectate random game on front page>usually Eternus tier>check items pre 8 minute>coldfront>coldfront>coldfront>coldfront>coldfront>5/6 players in one team has coldfront pre 8 minute markOnly one who doesn't have it is Haze. If an item is so powerful it feels mandatory to buy, it's overpowered. Just like how Fortitude was. Why hasn't this item been nerfed yet?
>>537710935like drifter he will absolutely stomp with a lead unlike drifter he cant get it by himself
>HERE'S SAND IN YOUR EYEShere's goo in your eyes you piece of shit rodent
>>537710326He's one of the fastest farmers so it doesn't really matter how well he does in lane as long as your team doesn't pressure hard enough and they let him farm up.
>>537711167ew, what is that being added?
>>537711285I play a hero that also just farms and then powerspikes, but mine powerspikes harder and he just dies for trying to come anywhere near me so I can't relate. Abrams is the real frontline problem-child for me cause he has ways to actually get in via his charge and his ult. And for some reason people seem to actively refuse to build fucking Leap or Warp Stone on Victor.
>>537711091but at least the game isn't about stat sticks anymore!!!!
>>537711548Super glue
>>537711091this is what happens when a jungle exists
>>537700103Thanks for your input Victoid
>>537670902Thanks for all the perspectives yall. I think I'll give it another careful try this month, but i'm not gonna force it too hard.
>>537711784It's what happens when buying good items is far better than buying items that compliment the character or other items
>>537711091it was nerfed, it used to deal double damage to creeps and everyone bought it back then
>>537711091it's the people that play this game. they're brainlets. it's not that the item is overtuned, it's that they all think it's overtuned so they all buy it on every hero.
ABRAMS MAINS What do we think about this?I'm low-elo but currently escaping. What's wrong with this build? I feel like I've covered most bases, left to right and picking what's needed based on how the game is going.
>>537712310but it IS overtuned and literally wins you every trade lol"le sheeple" no wonder you're 46% winrate
>>537709695I mean you can just walk away from him, what's he gonna do except plink at you with his dinky gun
>>537712565my win rate is over 50%.next you're going to tell me fleetfoot is overtuned.
>Been playing Doorman ever since I first tried him after a handful of Pocket games>Get a Pocket match finally after like 10 games>Do well and love the character like I did when I first tried him outHmmm familiarity breeds contemptI suppose it is good to have a nice pool of heroes to pick from not just so others can have a try on them but so you don't get a foggy apathetic mind when just zeroing in on a single character
>>537688958>among the lowest base gun damage in the game>bell his only source of burst damage>is an early-mid game hero in general>"ERM GUYS U SHOULD BUILD GUN BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE SUCKS HURRDURR"Neck yourself retard.
>>537712773I queue one hero as high priority for a while, to cement my build and see if I like the character, if I like it I drop it to single prio, if not I drop it to no prio, but still in the pool, and then pick a new hero to high prio for a bit.
>Team is dead silent throughout the entire match>No pings or voice commands whatsoever>I'm the only one communicating>Half the team suddenly starts using VC to shit talk each other near the endWhat causes this mental illness? They could have been talking the entire time and they just didn't!
Feels autistic complaining about rankings on a fucking alpha but I wish there was a casual queue where I could play fun dogshit characters that I like or try out new ones, playing weird shit in forced ranked ticks me off.
>>537712773I genuinely believe forcing people to play multiple characters instead of becoming a one trick pony is a healthy design decision that forces players to not optimize the fun out of the game (at least in that regard)
>your lane partner is a mirage
>teammate has an unprompted meltdown about russia because one other teammate has a russian accent
>>537713007Just make a smurf lil gup
how does this game fucking pick lanes? I got paired against a fucking mcginnis dynamo lane and i don't know what the fuck you do against that except lose the game because snowballing bullshit
>>537713007You can hide rankings entirely in the options. After a few games you forget it even exists.
Kinda feels like the shop update killed off meta silly builds, you fall behind waaayy too much now if you try and be a silly little goober.
>>537712565if everyone buys it how can it win you every trade
>>537713176that's one of the least winning lane comps in the game. skill issue.
>>537713320>McGinnis>Least winningHUH?
>>537713290no it just stops you from being able to buy everything because lol 16 slots with 12 forced colors.
>>537712948>lowest base gun damage in the gameLowest dps due to the gun's small clip and firerate, not damage. He is a prime candidate for express shot.His gun damage is 28 per bullet, the highest in the game.The next closest gun damages are Holliday at 26 and Geist at 21. If you pump damage you can kill any enemy you hit with the cart before they even hit the wall.
>>53771345011 slots1 is for cold front
>>537712321Idk about extended mag. I do like fury trance against a spirit heavy comp, but otherwise i save for vamp burst.
>>537713320>>537713424Realistically it is cancer but it's more of a stall lane than a hard winning lane because Dynamo can't output enough damage. Actually WINNING against this lane is gonna be hard but you aren't likely to lose unless you get too impatient
>>537713670I agree
>>537713670>wall into black hole into ginnis with rapid rounds and close quarters pounding your asshole
So Victor's aura works when he's ethereal shifted that's very fair
>>537713670>>537713320what i do wrong cause it felt fucking useless and we got stomped
>>537713424https://statlocker.gg/heroes/lane-tier-listhttps://statlocker.gg/heroes/hero-library/mcginnis/stats
>>537713670Given how matchmaking works you'll just get ganked by 3 niggers before the 8 minute mark
>>537713886idk man did you spam your grenade and kill the troopers fast?
>>537713914>Blanket numbers = truthYou're a bot
>>537713914>geist, mirage, and viscous in c>seven in dThis site is bs
>>537713886warden laning is 100% reliant on rushing quicksilver into mystic burst and throwing flask
>>537714032i tried but the turrets started fucking me up and then they were diving tower and then they were pushing walker at minute 9 :(
>make the most cancerous naruto running OP aoe character who also dots you to death a fucking black nigger>make every dialogue he has with others friendly>this way you can't nerf him>make the coolest villain type character who is OP aoe farmer, insane ultimate, stun and free passive buff>make his dialogue interesting and cool>this way you can't nerf him>wraith, haze, calico, woman, black, nigger>etc.
>literally didn't play deadlock for 1 year>low priority queue (You left a game or two 1 year ago anon)>you need to win games to get rid of this 1 year old punishment>btw only leavers and trolls play at low queue>good luck nigga :)wtf?what is the point of this shit?a literal ban form game would have been less fucked up man
>>537714168shouldn't have left any games niggabtw low prio queue is a much better time than regular queue
>>537714103how do the turrets fuck you up? you shoot them down faster than she can build them.
>>537714168>abandons game>whine about it a year later
>>537713303surely you're not this stupid that you don't understand the point right
>>537714224we would unironically win if victor didn't leave>>537714302apparently it doesn't decay at all even 1 year laterthe more you know
>>537714121can anybody derive meaning from this faggot schizo rambling
>>537714168>just run away from your problemslike a father abandoning his family.
How important is learning or getting a general idea of every hero's weapon stats? Does that help with knowing lane opportunities early on? It's been so long since I was new at a moba I feel really ineffective in lane and being unsure of items and power spikes is hard to deal with.
>>537714483he's spent too much time on the internet and fell for every /pol/ meme.the diagnosis is terminal. he shall live out the rest of his days online.
Is Dynamo mediocre or am I playing him wrong? Enemy team staying spread out leaves me feeling useless, damage doesn't feel great on either build. Do I simply just build debuff and utility items with him and become a debuff bot?
>>537714483devs aren't nerfing characters because they like them too much
Regarding "investments" into stats.Should I ever really consider this when buying items?Example being, I've hit my spirit cap, but want another spirit item. Is it technically a bad idea to go for that spirit item since my investment is at the max, and would it be more wise to go for something else? Or does that not really play a role in deciding what to buy late game?
>>537714552spend 5 hours at sandbox try to make sense of items and heroes and make builds for 3 heroes you think that don't suckimagine playing moba slop without doing your homework big mistake anon
>>537714797because they are diversity characters of current day American minorities and the oppressed
so is there any way to win when your retarded teammates all sit in one lane 5v1ing a person while the enemy assrapes your walkers
Aww poor thinskins cant handle gg ez
>>537714884>immediately has to concede seven is uhhhhh too interesting and cool>no mention of warden>calico despite her being fucking useless these days
>>537714552well if you want to be the highest rank you'll need to understand every interaction.does that matter to you? then do your homework.
>>537714552weapon stats sound really autistic and pointless
>>537715012yea you definitely only typed gg ezjust like all the others eh
>>537711091you nerf coldfront and then 2 months later you bitch about the next item everyone buys, its almost like there's going to be an objectively useful most often item and nerfing shit just makes every game feel weak and boring
>>537715012>be an animal>get thrown in a cagelol.
>vindicta went from 80 ish dps to 40ish dpswtf have they done to my girl
>>537714990I can't imagine this ever happening unless they're so retarded as to 1v5 a fed Victor specifically, you have to be ridiculously behind if your teammates cannot quickly kill off one lone guy, like, is this even possible? Ping the fuck out of them or write in chat/talk in VC, sometimes they just need a wake up call.
The most OP characters are Seven, Warden, and Drifter though. Wraith is strong but not too problematic aside from maybe her ult needing a longer CD and if you still think Calico is OP you are the most shitlow of shitlow
>>537715012>be low IQ russian nigger >be low IQ muslim immigrant nigger>be low IQ american mutt baby nigger>yell into microphone at every little thing and write retarded shit in full capsAWW POOR THINSKINS CANT HANDLE GG EZ
>>537711129on this topic, what are some strong leads?
>>537715268no, you don't understand, boots and magic wand are op, everybody buys them.
i know victor is op but i just played him and had no idea how to be useful. maybe the build i was using sucked, i don't know. but he does 0 damage and has 0 utility outside of his ult. no escapes so you're constantly in danger when farming. what makes him so strong? what are his spikes/breakpoints? if all he is is a tank, then there's like 5 other heroes that do that job but also provide a lot more utility. i just don't get it
>>537715409boots increase mobility and wand survivabilitycold front purely makes fights one sided or over fast and we never even get to see hero skills usedthis makes for a boring game to watch and if this is supposed to attract spectators, items like cold front need to be changed.
>>537715301Only tanky heroes are allowed to actually do damage glass cannons were relegated to just being glass and btw we made eshift a tier 4 cause fuck you guys!
Is there any way to make text chat actually appear on screen? Any time someone sends a message it almost immediately disappears making text chat worthless.
>teammates somehow feed the fuck out of a gun viscous
>>537715482>fart aura that makes it difficult to enemies to escape and deals loads of damage>self-heal with charges that purges debuffs>extra life if you fuck up or to distract the enemy team while your team takes objectives
>>537715482>what are his spikesInfuser for healing, EE and Scourge for damage, he is a mid-late game hero that needs like 50% spirit res until he can tank his own aura
>>537715647the first two points rely on max levels though? so what, he's just useless for 30 mins then gets online? that sounds dogshit
>1 year later gun chads are still dominating spirit cuckslearn to track heads with haze and infernus or gtfothis is a shooter game now
>>537713007Ranked is good and it makes people get the grind addiction which is good
>>537715482he's dogshit, especially if the opponent has a gun carry.
>>537715764Healthy mix of both are performing well though
>>537715756The aura slow is t1
*Shiv voice* ur dum
>>537711091>fights>farms>crowd controlswhat more do you want
>>537716061it's only 30% cold front is 60% and costs 1600 souls and deals instant damage
>>537716149it's also constant and you can still buy cold front on him
PLEASE GIVE RUSKIES THEIR OWN SERVER SO I NEVER HAVE TO PLAY WITH THEM EVER AGAINjesus christ they're a fucking infestation in this game, literal disgusting rats in the gutter, ive never played with a single one that hasnt tilted out the second anything goes wrong or they fuck up their macroits making this game genuinely unplayable if you live even remotely close to them in timezones
Jesus lmao
>>537716149You can also buy cold front on himAnd the 1 gives a slow while the 2 gives a speed boost so it's the easiest shit ever to get people in close range
>>537716149made a mistake its 3200, lets see anons pile on that>tfw 5 am>>537716256my point is that the enemy buys cold front, uses it and now they can easily out range himthis means you are FORCED to buy cold front
>>537716292remnants of DEI physiognomy can't wait for pocket and shiv to get their plastic surgery
Sell me on Gun Geist
>>537716363it's 1600.
>>537716364Pocket already looks like some kpop pretty boy
>>537716363where have you been? they turned pocket into asian beethoven
>>537716363>this means you are FORCED to buy cold frontHis 2 clears debuffs AND gives him a speed boost
>>537716621t3 upgrade
>>537716657yeah the t3 upgrade you're going to be rushing
>>537716292And to think people found old vindicta attractive
>>537716657this might surprise you but ability points are meant to be spent
>>537716753takes too long to get to t3 when cf is 1600 only and the speed only lasts 4 seconds
>>537716539i miss old pocketi also miss his trapper version
>>537716753>>537716770>neglect everything else and rush level 3 on your ability making everything else incredibly weak to counter a 1600 cost item that's bought at 5 minsso these are the cold front apologists... sound like trannies to me
>viper in team>team losesThis hero literally never does anything. Ever.
>>537716979>to counter a 1600 itemno, to counter every single non-silence debuff in the game
is haze tight? playing with a bunch of people new to mobas and i want to pop off but im five years rusty since playing dota
>>537717060Haze is good if you can aim but you get more value out of Wraith or Warden or honestly any other M1
>>537716979wtf are you upgrading during lane for victorYou maybe need 1 point in his 1 but that's it, aura is pointless during lane and his ult doesn't really need upgrades
>>537717121haze winning more right now. probably because it's the only 0 spirit hero left in the game.
I love playing Paradox but absolutely dread playing against a competent Paradoxthe hero is actually major bullshit op
just played vs a yamato after not touching the game for almost a year. what the FUCK did they do to her bombs? not only do they nuke you but they ear rape you and make your game freeze
>>537716292when are they updating the gun
>>537716759She was the only young white girl in the entire cast for nearly a year, cut us some slack.
>>537716759feet
feels so hard to find time to rotate and go for ganks without tp scrolls
>>537717197you started this chain by stating that victor gets 30% slow on his aura and it's T1 upgrade and his 1 ability doesn't slow without T2 upgrade yet somehow Victor can have a T3 upgrade out of his ass at minute 5 to counter a 60% slow, AoE damage item, that scales to end game and has low cooldown somehow
Imagine if Mina released last year.
>>537715519>cold front purely makes fights one sidedso does having more mobility and surviability then the other guy you knucklehead, at least you have to time cold front to any degree at all instead of it being a mindless passive that lets you w+m1 at the enemy team. seems like a really silly thing to hyper fixate on>we never even get to see hero skills usedobviously not true
I buy Cold Front on all of my characters! Deal with it!
>>537717254Her wall is the only thing that makes her cancerous to play against
>>537717871she would have looked like a recolored calico and use the targetdummy animations
>>537717593Is she even still 16 years old?>>537717871Imagine if she was part of the base roster kek. Would have been an Ivy v Mina shitfest.
Of all the items they removed it's silly that they kept cold front. They should make it a 3200 item or remove it and just keep arctic blast. Maybe make it only fart out in a cone
>>537717945People literally use abilities only TO use Cold Front and you fucking know this is true. Why are you being in such fucking denial about how overtuned and game changing this stupid item is? It makes early game not fun at all when a Pocket abuses it, Infernus runs in just to use it. It's a fucking boring item that makes games fucking boring. 60% slow is way too much. Make debuff remover 1600 and then it's fair.
>>537713080oh no a character with one of the best CCs in the game right out of the box + an extremely obnoxious m1 poke!!1
why can't I see object/player damage mid-game so I can shut people down when they bitch about how I'm not contributing with 0 kills
>win game>hero’s skill rating dropswait WHAT
>>537718214if your team notices you chainfeeding on walkers it means you're not contributing.
God I can't wait for Silksong to come out so I have something else to play for one week until I'm back into this hellish game
>>537717976and the swap and the carbine nukes and the in-your-face playstyle gun spam
Is it just my low skill player ass talking or is Unstoppable really underwhelming for a 6400 item?
>>537718154>don't use your abilities to combo with an item, only buy items to make your abilities do more damageits higher apm for the same result>60% slow is way too muchbuy boots and stop letting him get right in your face
Cold Front deals more damage than most abilities do in the early game. This is fine.
>>537718324it's a situational item you get if you're being focused.
>>537718273It happened to me too lolIt's Yoshi saying you were carried and your win did not count
>>537718303ok but what if I have literally 4 times the object damage of everyone else and 2nd highest player damage you faggot
>>537718324it's a counter counter item. You get it exclusively to use stuff like dynamo or haze ults uncontested when the enemy team either has a character that counters it or buys items to counter it (i.e. curse)
>>537718325>buy bootswhat? is this a troll post or are you just retarded?
>>537718463What if you gave me fellatio
>>537718324It's an insane item but it's mostly a counter buy against teams with tons of CC. I see a lot of ult build Sevens pick it since he becomes a glowing postsign.
>>537718463if your damage isn't being converted into kills or patron slaying, it's fluff.
>>537717990>Is she even still 16 years old?I doubt that, they'll inevitably want to give her some sort of semi-revealing cosmetic for summer or whatever (not even a very lewd one, any sort of swimsuit would cast shade if Valve still wants her to be underaged), not even Mina is minor, right? There's no way Vindicta is still 16 if so.
>play mina>do very well>contribute a lot, get a lot of kills, farm a lot>do huge chunks of damage to people in teamfights>end of game stats>still only have like 3rd highest damagehm. not that i'm complaining about winning but it feels so disconnected from what i was doing ingame
>>537718463yeah so you chainfeed into a walker, what's your point
>>537717990>she even still 16 years old?yes plus 100 something years after she returned as a ghost
>>537718632It's just how it goes with her. She doesn't have sustained high DPS in fights, she just swoops in and bursts, then flies out until she can do it againShe also needs a team to frontline for her, it's just how the playstyle goes
>>537716278>ruskie starts giving me a single iota of shit>mute them, report them, move on with my lifeits that easy
>>537718563>>537718705>uhh I know you did literally all the objective damage and I didn't even outdamage you despite never clicking on towers and having nothing better to do but actually you're still badyou the russians I had to play with?
>>537718374most abilities in the game don't need you to be right next to them to work
>>537718928Why are you guys so obsessed with this negro?
>>537713080The one time I had a Mirage lane partner he was actually okay. Didn't randomly eat harrass constantly like a retard, didn't die constantly like a retard, actually made some plays and got some kills himself while I either poked the enemy from the sides to keep them from being in good positions/to piss them off enough to come fight me (McGinnis) in my turret corner just to lose half their HP and potentially die to Mirage as he came over, stayed in cover to get the heals and actually got something done from my walls. But I almost never see Mirage in my games at all so I don't have a big pool of examples to go by.
>>537719017Shiv is red actually
>>537719081Actually he isn't
Commspam with Shiv is hilarious
>>537718993>dash in, cold front, dash out>enemies can't counter this because they're slowed and have just taken a huge chunk of damage so if they try and chase you can just rape them...? your plan?
>>537697025now wheres the stacheless vers
>>537719017Personally, I just think hes funny.
They updated the shop again
>>537715247Nah I called them Gay Pedos when they picked gay pedo heroes :3
>>537719351what changed? a third icon to hunters aura?
>>537700876ragebaitactual worst stats
>>537719351No they didn't
>>537719262i think i will always draw warden with the stache even when he is a loli, because i find it cute and funny that a little girl would have such a serious mustache. blue archive did it first.
>>537718879objective damage is a meme stat in this game, it's mostly incidental. you take objectives as a team and they melt usually fast so any previous damage is often ultimately meaningless.additionally sometimes map movements put certain heroes in a position to push, causing them to just happen to get objective damage instead of partaking in a fight elsewhere. say a fight is on the other side and you have a free lane suddenly - it's coincidence you were therethen there are heroes that are more suited to splitpush, namely those with escapes. but even a splitpush can be detrimental if your team loses a fight when you weren't there, and you end up losing more in the process (mid, more walkers, base) especially for won games objective damage is a meme since you can farm it by killing lane guardians (teams usually push in from one lane, so the other two lane guardians are free objective damage even though in some games completely unnecessary), but even for losing games achieving objective damage through chainfeeding under a walker is just actively detrimental to your team
>>537719360enjoy toxic queue, faggot. make sure to complain here about it so we can all laugh at you
>>537713658Without it, or mag mecurial I find during key moments I'll be out of ammo. It's even more frustrating when popping fury or vamp and I have like 2 bullets in my clip.The solution would be to build qsr or get a larger clip. Thoughts?
>>537707204by that logic warden is the only good guy
As ranks get higher, do people swap lanes from what's auto assigned? And move around the map more early on? It seems people really stick to the assigned lanes and don't move but I'm only 20 games in.
>>537719584crushing fists gives you bullets on melee
>>537719484>you take objectives as a teamright but we didn't, because I had 4x the obj damage of anyone else. I literally did all of it besides lane>chainfeeding under a walker you keep saying this out of nowhere, schizophrenic?
>>537719819I thought building into melee on Abrams is bad.
>>537719618I've only ever seen swaps when people are queuing with friends.
>>537719876yes, so you lost the game and your objective damage amounted to nothing because you didn't take them as a teamhence it's a meme stat
>>537719881only if you get parried!3 points into charge and you're free to heavy melee anyone without debuff resist
https://files.catbox.moe/c5h5wv.jpg
>>537719618I just swap if I'm facing some nigger shit like Viscous or Doormanfuck that
>>537719881It might be bad but it's fun as fuck booking people to death.And at low ranks, people might not parry at all
>>537719881they do it in e6.
>>537720120>>537720120>>537720120
>lane against Sinclair>assistant shits out damage>fucker hexes+double melees me instantly>bolts from a mile away to poke even morewhat a miserable lane that was, why isn't this cunt played more
>>537719038>Enemy is Mirage>constant poking>sits dominantly on bridge>never stops poking you>Team mate is Mirage>stands wayyyy back>only hits mobs>too scared to shoot Haze>misses his healing>takes constanty damage for no reason when last hitting>will tornado away from fight
>>537719547Damn that's crazy bro!>*queues with stack of friends so nothing changes*
>>537719993woah mama
>>537719993AWOOOGA
>>537715523>meanwhile McGinnis with ~75 DPS when fully spun-up and one of the highest bullet damage per levels of any full-auto BRRT gun in the game>and she's not tanky
>>537716278They did that with Dota and the Ruskies kept queueing for EU anyway. You deserve it for being European anyway lmao.
Mina's problem is that her ult doesn't scale nearly as well into lategame.
>>537716389Right here >>537696801
>>537720817It's like okay at T3 but you really need to spend points elsewhere first
>>537720159No one wants to play as a shitty unfinished model.
i think i just fed the enemy like 6000+ souls that game just from dropping my bag because i kept moving in to help teammates that were in skirmishes and they'd just run away from winnable fights and let me die.
>>537708036just had the following match. It was my first time as Dynamo and paige said they were going gun.Shit was pretty fun, the enemy team didn't have a chance. I might rewatch it alter just to see if they were raging in chat.
>>537723008this was the build. it was a low rank game so idk how good this is.
>>537723008Lol you can see chat in replays?
>>537723008desu those matchups weren't exactly fairdrifter got shat on lane i guessyou had like 5 heroes with stupid cc against victor mina and holiday are just useless
>>537723426both team chat and all chat are visible. a long long time ago you could hear voice chat when spectating too.
what lash build do i click???
