RAF Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/08-18-2025-update.75046/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>537836835
Silksong
Hes in
STOP GIVING THE ENEMY TEAM ALL THE CARRY CHARACTERS WHILE WE HAVE NOTHING BUT SUPPORTS AND TANKS
>>537899484the deadlock killer....
>>537899579this is so miserable when youre tanking, keeping the fight going for ages but their health bar never moves and you know its ogre
>billy player died while the enemy team got rejuv>as soon as he respawns he immediately runs into the enemy jungle, and dies to a 6v1How do you explain behavior like this?
>>537899484Not my problem>>537899579>support>tankYou deserve to lose with this mindset
>>537899232nig
>>537899686Bait
I wish players in my games were less afraid to dieIf dying means we kill 3 of them then get the fuck in there and give your life for the cause
How would sex with Ivy feel?
>>537899765sorry man if we lose my K:D WILL be used against me at the end of the game and I cant let that happen
>Change ability and melee keybinds so I don't have to move my fingers to 1-4>Keep fucking up the new binds and pressing 1-4 in tense moments This is gonna take a bit
>>537899765but you will say that I'm shit for dying and feed right after that
>>537899820It rocks
>I see that handsome bastard
>>537899765Some people are too afraid to even cross the halfway point of the map because that means they might have to engage with the enemy at all and you want them to DIE? You sicko.
>>537899493as in he's gonna go last after I'm done voting for Skyrunner
>>537899484I can't fucking buy it, thanks gaben
>>537899739
>>537899765>Will we win the game?
I hate William.
>>537900173i could easily see priest being last and also being as op as drifter/victor
>>537900156
>dodging seven stun with mina's escapehuh.
>>537900516kek basedhope he keeps the robo arm
>>537898330Last match, the enemy team had a Vyper that was really good at melee for some reason. Man, I really should learn to parry the moment I hear the heavy melee sound.
>>537899765Thanks for your input Warden
https://files.catbox.moe/4efbth.mp4
>>537900545you can dodge a lot with it
>>537900545its the best ability in the game right now
need a dumb as fuck 6'8'' billy boyfriend
>>537900156How are they so cool
What's the point of the little gambling things?
Mirage ulti should work like talon bird except you teleport to the point of impact (no damage) and scarabs should be replaced with an ability that isn't shit
>>537901186To get a fuck ton of buffs
>>537901186Easy to gank but you get souls and stats from it
>>537899493>only unreleased hero without the inprogress flag>only one with a full name (Cain Rourke)>has the most in-depth responses>finished 3D model>hero select background in filessoon, brothers
>>537900826I hate Inferniggers so much. Literal brainless gorilla niggers holding w+m1
>>537901186neutral souls that heroes like infernus can't take in a drive-by flamedashloud so that they create risk and cause fightsfilled with buffs as an incentive to take the risk
>>537901186Unironically best implementation of jungle mechanics as of now
>>537901145based goyle not having any of drifter's shit
time to play pocket and do anime fighting game combos to deal 30%
>>537901691Pick a real hero homo
https://files.catbox.moe/yclje0.mp4
>>537902114I have no fucking idea how to play Mirage
>>537902269you just shoot real good and keep an eye on your minimap really
>>537902269I just don't play Mirage. I used to play him for a bit, but I just don't find him fun.
Ok Ijust played against a punch sinclairI understand the hate now, gut this nigger
>>537901186The lights on top are its "HP", punch it to reduce the HP and trade your life for souls, at the end all lights will flash in order and if you time a heavy punch just as its getting full you get 4 buffs
What the fuck was the point of hero labs when none of the 6 heroes they just released were in it?
>>537902032>plays seven and presses 3 on the minion wave to instantly detonate it and also deal 198427738 damage
>>537900972im a dumb as fuck 5'10'' doorman is that ok
>>537902416To lab some heroes, obviously
>>537900972t. Paige
stickin em
>>537902269max out fire rate, grab ricochet, max out Djinn Mark, do not buy any spirit items and nothing else, some people grab Quick silver reload I guess, so if you really wanted it.
Holliday any fun? Tomboy cowboy appeals to me
>>537902831Yes but playing her is equal to committing all the 7 deadly sins at once
>>537902831i was the same but her playstyle is too gimmicky for me
>>537902831She's fun but playing her will make you feel like you're an evil person.
I've been awake for 20 hours and I just can't stop playing because I need to not bottom frag for fucking onceThis game is destroying my life
>>537899765I don't play anything that serves a purpose as a martyr, my hero only provides value by staying alive.
>pick Victor>teammate chain feeds>pick Victor >teammate chain feedsI just want to try Victor out please
This Viscous nigger just said gg and commended me after the gameI want to fucking slaughter him
>>537902831I like playing her as a bouncy movement god that can chuck a ton of barrels at people
>queue up as vyper for shits and giggles>Vindicta on the enemy team AND she's in my lane>stakes me every single fucking time the entire match
>>537899718>seething into the next threaddamn, that lil nigga RAPED you
>>537903881FREAK ON A LEASH
>>537903881buy phantom strike
>enemy team picks Victor and/or Drifter>they're unkillable menaces that got giga-fed in lane by brown retard teammates>my team picks Victor and/or Drifter>they feed 10+ deaths and have 5 or less kills like a bunch of brown retards>this happens 100% of the timeCIVILIZATION. NEEDS. EUGENICS.
>>537903686>run in as Victor>Enchanters, spirit resilience, cold front>die in under 3 seconds>check incoming damage>93% spirit damagewtf
>>537904245I think the damage recap might just be broken, I died to a mcginnis shooting me and it only showed the spirit damage from her turret/some ult poke for some reason
>>537903451Bro it ain't worth it. You're completely at the whims of getting match-made with not only the right people, but the right people playing the right characters. It's out of your control.
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>537905019Haze is not a nigger, faggot.
>>537904217You wish for a swift death ?
>>537905019you're late, you fucking schmuck.
>one team has mina>one team has drifterHmm I wonder who wins
>>537905019Calico is gonna be a cute brown egyptian girl.
>>537903451Don't worry about K/D until your at least 100h in. Preferably never desu, it's a bait statistic
>>537905086>coping because his waifu main is actually a black woman and the chud can't fathom playing le hecking black womanlollmao even
>>537905149I wish Calico was like this instead.
>>537905313too basic, generic even
My morally corrupt and rich wife is fun to play
>>537905413Post a better example, then.
>>537904549Well fuck me in the butt I guess.
Why are players in this game so fucking retarded? No matter how many times I tell people to RUN AWAY AND WAIT OUT WARDEN'S ULT, they still run AT Warden when HE'S ULTING.
>>537905524nuh-uh, you'll steal her, I know you will
>>537905881Dotards even at low ranks know when to disengage so it's the shooter tourists throwing our matches.
>>537905272She is a smoke demon, not an african
>>537905524
>>537906046she's an African smoke demon
>>537906103Absolute god-tier taste. Wish I was good at that game tho.
>>537906103sexwe need a blood motif characterno, not the rage monkey or a vampire. they have blood surrounding their design, they're not straight up blood themed themselves
>>537906459red viscous
>>537906459red viscous?
>>537899484Hornet collab hero in Deadcock when?
>>537906286>god-tier art>in an ultra competitive game>game doesn't have caring devs or community>no spinoff of any formthe game is in ... deadlock
How long untill we are down to 10,000 players a day again
>>537899765I have no faith in anyone but myselfif I commit to a fight and die, everyone else will have used it as an opportunity to retreat and then an excuse to flame me when they themselves die later
>>537906046right right, like how infernus is a "smoke demon" and not black!
Yeah okay I really am starting to dislike pisslowThis faggot Sinclair keeps grabbing the urn whenever he can and has the game sense of a dead raccoon He alone is responsible for 20k of the enemies soulsWhy do retards play video gamesWhy are they allowed to own computersThey should be working at McDonald's until they expire
>>537906103boho will provide...
I have played Drifter 5 times and 5 times I have fed on himI can play every new hero above average but I cannot play drifter for my life
>>537907235He is weak during lanes, learn to stay back and not force your fights. After the guardians are down, go farm a bit and then jump on isolated retards, it's very hard to lose a 1v1 with him
>add deaths whistle from puss in boots to Drifter ult>actually get a little scared whenever drifter ults nowGod I love modding, hopefully they don't ban all mods when this game goes open beta/on release.
glad doorman still uses the long taunts sometimes, so much better
>>537905489how do you build her?
>>537907953He already whistles you gay fucking furry
I hate doortranny so fucking muchDUDE LMAO WHAT I KEPT THROWING OUT GREY TALON ARROWS BUT THEY DEALT MORE DAMAGE AND HAD A GIGANTIC FUCKING UNMISSABLE AOE LOL
>>537908069yeah but it's not very pronounced in vanilla. it's a LOT louder in the mod and makes it a lot scarier.
>bell>doing more damage than fucking GT arrowsare these niggas for real
>>537907860Belt on a left side of the face (from our pov) is a tad too thick, feels like an outline and it should be hidden by head, since it's turned to the side a bit, srry for being a nerd, I like the pic, drawfrend
>>537908286It seems they left their heads at the door
>>537907210>They should be working at McDonald's until they expirethe worst person i ever played a moba with was my friend in medical school
wraith cant shoot while ulting?
>>537905092I wouldn't be one of the brown retards being removed by eugenics.
>>537908286>2.1 scaling base>vs 2.24 on maxed out arrowhmm wonder which one is easier to land????bell base damage is also higher btw
>>537906927didn't drop that low until 4 months no update, don't see the wait getting that long again30k maybe in October
why are people pausing the game near the very start of every single fucking match? I'm watching a high elo streamer and the same shit is happening, are these just normalfags thinking its the funniest shit ever to waste 90 seconds?
>>537908603you have buggy door instead of flyand tiny hitbox cart instead of giant snare
>>537908745GO TO THE BATHROOMYOU ARE SHITTING YOURSELF
refresher knockdown doorman
>>537908286>because talon is deleted in pre-alpha build
>>537908798oh woe is me poor doortard has to actually aim SOMETHING good think he can spam out fucking bells like the braindead nigger he is
>>537908603>hmm wonder which one is easier to land????the arrow because it has a hitbox of a truck, while you can actually see and dodge the bells
What matchmaking regions are there?
>>537908603the ones that go mach 10, have range limit and don't put you in engage range of 90% of the cast to throw out?retard?cannot believe we already have people whining about fuckin doorman
>teammates die 15 times in the first 9 minutes>they manage to recover and we still win the gameimpressive honestly
>>537909225>>537909479doortranny defense force has arrived!the retards who take actual offense when their gay faggot hero is called out!at least drifter and viktortards actually admit their hero is broken and gay
>>537909689>Say something retarded>Get called a retard>"Uh oh look at these guys!"Kill yourself
>>537908745so they can swap
>>537909689>d-doorman is broken...i-i'm not dogshit...you're a shitter and you'll never escape ritualist, faggot.
>vyper, mina and calico in my team>against drifter, victor, lash and sevenle state mandated loss
>>537909845okay doortranny
>I'm full build and like 10k souls over 5 out of 6 enemies on the other team>but I can't win any fights cause despite my lead I have all the oxygen thieving retards that have 10+ deaths and the enemy has none of them.....so what's the point of playing this game when your performance literally never matters in any sort of meaningful, positive way? If you're doing well AND winning, it's usually because you got the assigned win team that didn't die 10 times by 15 minutes. If you got so much as one of said retards on your team you just auto-lose cause when you get said retard(s) on your team, no one on the enemy team is dumb enough to blatantly feed to balance things out. Every game is just forced win/forced loss where your input literally does not matter. What's the point of MOBAs in general since they ALL work this exact same way all the way down to the matchmaking itself?
>>537899765the billy player about to run directly into the enemy walker at half health to try and 1v2 drifter and victor
>>537907860This makes me wonder if the Doorman is actually him, or if it's some poor soul he decided to posses so he could fuck around
>he destroys "objectives" and claims "map resources" instead of brooling with the rest of usYou are a PUSSY ASS BITCH and possible HOMOSEXUAL
>>537907860who is the guy on the left supposed to be?
>>537906665She'll still be picked less than Mina and Drifter
>>537910524Hypothetical human before they were possessed by The Doorman
>>537910524what door"men" imagine themselves to be like irl
>>537910524dexter morgan
why did the high cc teleporting hero need a guaranteed kill combo with a extremely high damage charge that also does CC
>>537910864he just does, okay?
>>537910864...but enough about Mo&Krill
>>537908315>srry for being a nerdnah thanks for feedback!
>>537910082>nobody likes Sinclair
>>537911032M&K is the most honest hero in the game and he does NOT have a teleport
>>537910864who is this nigga even talking about
>>537911125hopoopoo...
>>537909689>>537910082uh oh, low elo tranny BTFO
>>537911125>magician that functions as rubick lite>his magic is shit >his cc is shit>his assistant and gay and not fun to use
>>537911128>he didn't boughted phantom strike
>>537911312>le epin "high skill" hero>60% pickrate>still 46% winrate>most people aren't even doing the bell spam buildsilence bellend
>>537902668bro...billy is her brother
>>537911557ah yes, the eternus players are dogshit at the game!!!you're a retard and will NEVER get above ritualist (if you've even made it there)
>>537906103Based skullgirls chad pwns shit taste furnigger
>>537911149lash
>>537905489I thought this was gardevoir for a sec
>>537911383How would you fix him?
>female samurai>female sheriff>female mechanic>female assassin>female sniper>female mob
>>537905489I may be retarded but the gun being longer in her new model is unironically fucking up my aim.I hate playing her now because of it.
>>537911754If you love eternus players so much why don't you suck them off, you're experienced with handling dicks seeing as how much of a faggot you are
>>537911982>nonbinary asian twink>gay bong
>>537912076I accept your concession
>>537901186To force the hecking wholesome early game esports teamfights sponsored by Allstate(tm)
>>537911974scrap the shitty distance mechanic on his boltscrap the assistant replicating spells and just let them function by themselves instead of being gimpedgive the ult upgrades something else instead of just "lol now the ability actually does something!"
>>537911982>Goo Man
>drifter goes 9000 MPH around the map with 8 health bars melting everyones health in 2 seconds and if he ever gets low he can just press 4 for a free scapeepic character design poofrog
>idea drifter's 4 is supposed to be evoking is he blinds you and then hunts you down while you're panicking>every drifter just uses it to run awaycurious...
>>537912637I would like to know why this rapist character has like as much health as Kelvin. Make it make sense please.
>>537912781classic case of the engage ability also being the best escape ability
I wish drifter had an alt fire.
>>537912280But the redirecting of the bolt is really funIf they get rid of the distance damage they should add something else to it to encourage using its misdirection even if its just a small 20% movement slow
>>537912781if it was a hunt ability it would target only one hero, as it is it's best used to bring the enemy's team fight capability to a screeching halt for 8-11s as no one can fucking see shit. It sucks. I would rather be in the fucking Ice Dome.
>>537912781biggest issue with it is the cast time, makes it useless for engaging because the second someone hears it theyve already skedaddled back to baseits only useful really for teamfights
>>537911982>male cop>male bartender>male detective>male professor>male explorer>male anarchist>male doorman>male bodyguard>male rapist
how is victor so jacked
>>537912864brawler - assassin like nightstalker and bloodseeker bruh
>>537913060made out of a jacked guy
>>537912936the redirection is fine, it's just that you need to do this retarded gimmick so you can deal actual damageand not even that much damage
>>537913060he uses my torso
>>537913020it should be silent when casting and elongate the CD by an extra 40 seconds.no drifter is building CD anyways so it's a good change.
>>537913147Assassins usually don't have a ton of health to make up for the fact that they can just jump you and kill you in half a second, like Haze for example.
Duration extender, aoe and cooldown max ult spammer drifter (with refresher)think about it deadtards
>>537913060chicken breasts and rice
>>537913290it's an icefrog game, brawler assassins scale into mid-late game as broolers
>>537913352I do like duration and cd on him if I see they aren't building anything to purge it since it's a win teamfights for free button
>>537911583reddit headcanon
>>537899334how do i read my rank ??? how do enter ranked games if that's how i get on e?
>>537913352the ult only targets 2 people or 3 at max level
>>537913706>how do i read my rankclick on your profile and it should be on the tab that isn't "time played">enter ranked gamesall games are ranked games.
Anyone here broolin'?
>>537899484Too bad Steam servers are hosted in a cave in Somalia
Just had a blast broolin in mid, we lost but we put up a good fight
>Wanna Driftersoom>The enemy team is just deathballing every lane>We're slowly winning from split pushing but its the most unfun way possible to winim starting to think broolers get it
>>537914081>453k minimum people downloading a game all at once>ALONG with everyone downloading every other game no server on the planet could handle that
when I hear the bebop hook connect with some fool it's like a dopamine creampie>>537914382yeah lowshits are starting to realize deathballing is the safest thing to do when you don't know wtf you're doing which is really annoying because I had to play a drifter game the same way. couldn't kill anyone because it was a constant 1v6 and just had to split push to win
>>537914465My uncle's home computer can
>>537911125Just means I'm guaranteed to get him every time.>absolute monster on the lane>one of the best split pushers in the game>bolts remain relevant up to the late game>bunnymaxxing is still as gay and aids as everEasily the most slept on hero. I hope it stays that way.
My god the first hollow knight wasn't even anything special, what an insane shill campaign that convinced so many people they needed to play another shitty scrimblo Metroid clone or they'd suffer FOMO
>>537899765>just die over and over and feed the enemy and then look bad in the post-game K/D chart bro
>>537915223The power of normans
>>537915223Deadlock?
>>537915223offtopic but yeah, there is no way that /v/ is organically flooding in silksong threads
To be fair, Doorman's bells DO deal a ridiculous amount of damage. Ive played with multiple Doormen that deal top damage just by building spirit and chucking bells at people
>>537915223I didn't even finish the first one, only bought it because the knight and hornet are hot.
>>537899334>the cube is warm- ACK
>>537915638Uh oh you just angered The Doormen!
>>537915638Also what makes the bell truly ridiculous is that it deals all that damage while also being able to hit people with it no matter where they are. There's no hiding from the bell in lane, your ass is getting rung.
>>537902114Valve if not politically correct company would just add "For Allah" to all those. Fucking crazy sandniggers.
>>537902114in case anyone wants it.https://files.catbox.moe/7m56mg.vpk
>surge of power on 3 mirage>hits me for 900 with Djiins mark at 15 minutesowie
what's the counter to a mcginnis and mo and krill
>>537902831Here's guide on how good your mobility has to behttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTZD9fNoCfM
>>537915223You're pretty ignorant if you don't think the first game was really popular, the subreddit has 1 millions subs which is maybe the highest for an indie game
So I tested it and you can't reduce the damage of jumpstart.Why does it even say it does spirit damage if you can't reduce it lol, it's gotta be bugged I guess.
>>537917112because it needs to be listed as a damage source, same with Geist swap.
>>537911982You will never be black woman of valve unoriginality- poster
>>537917636Then why bother specifying spirit damage, dingaling bro
can someone explain to me how a mirage loses to mina in lane
>>537917982the fuck else is it gonna be, dawg? physical? they don't have a damage type for pure damage yet.it's just spirit damage that can't be negated.
>>537918285There is a pure damage type, it's geist swap and siphon bullets that show up as white on damage charts, dumbass
>>537918393they both show up as purple for me, do you have a screenshot for that?
ALCHEMICAL FLASK
guys i just went from alchestmist 4 to alchemist 3 what the fuck do i do with myself
>>537919143touch yourself
>>537919143Do a backflip.
>>537899765>kill 3 enemy team members>die>bounty is now so large they immediately have a higher net worth again
>>537919496Bounty is tied to time, not networth.
>>537919772
>>537919772Kill streak bonus & comeback mechanics (but also I'm exaggerating)
balance patch today NYO
>>537919496>>537919946maybe bounty should be tied to item values instead of kill streak
>>537912894If leaks were true he would have been more of a melee ranged character with only 2 shots that would have been basically at punch range with a weaker alt fire that doesnt consume ammo. When he was partially implemented few months ago I though he would be using a double barrel shotgun but alas they made him play too much like your average brainded m1 carry.
STOP GIVING ME FEEDING MINAS!!!
>>537918996Defeat me if you can!
>>537905489>they removed the thigh highs + garter belt combo and replaced it with a shitty thightsAlso I hate the new gun, should have kept the old snubnose purse revolver.Unironically the only hero that received a visual downgrade.
>>537919946>>537920061That still doesn't mean you should avoid fights because you're afraid of giving 100 extra souls on your death 20 minutes into the game.
>>537920373when they get him to a good balanced state maybe they can look into giving him a M2. viscous got his M2 back a few months after official release.
>>537915398More organic than all the gachaspam
do we know for sure which characters were designed by hotpoo?
>>537922379Yes, 100% its Sinclair, Vyper, and Victor
>>537922379he confirmed himself its vyper and sinclair
>>537922523Victor is too good to be hotpoo work
>>537922379vyper, sinclair, calico reworkdon't know for sure about any of the new ones but he retweeted the paige announcement
>>537922379he's taken credit for them on discord I think. you can kinda tell which ones are hopoo anyway, there are strong core abilities (vyper slide, sinclair assistant) the rest of the kit is based around. icefrog likes passives and dota ults.
>>537922526>>537922523LMAO he needs to get fired asap
>>537920576>implying there's another kind of minasFuck this coomer hero, I'd rather this game stay at 10k players than have another 10k of dogshit marvel tourists
>>537922379He was the lead on Sinclair and Vyper, since then he is just one of the general leads of Deadlock along with Paul Morse (also Risk of Rain), Robin Walker (TF2), Adrian Finol (DOTA 2), and IceFrog
>>537923038I wonder if Robin Walker designed any heroes
>>537923234he designed walkers
I'm having something strange happening with Dynamo. When in a match, I can't cast his aurora, but when I leave quantum entanglement, it autocasts. The UI shows that I'm pressing the right buttons, but the ability doesn't activate. This is making the hero almost unplayable.
mina isnt s coomer hero. For starters she wears pants. Real coomer heroes show off ass and panties.
>>537923038How do you know other guys are in deadlock? What did they make?
>game is a total stomp>somehow it still takes these dumbasses 40 minutes to beat usalso I'm starting to realize split shot makes drifter way better in team fights, also I cant aim for shit so its nice :)
>>537923038Robin Walker isn't on Deadlock, he's most likely wrapping up on HLX. the Team Fortress 2 lead that was claimed to currently be on Deadlock is John Cook.
wtf is hotpoo
Just played my first match against real players. We lost.
>>537923883some channer chud
literally what are you suppose to do vs a fed drifter?
>>537923924stun, disarm, etc. he folds to any CC hard and lacks real disengage. also, wait for nerfs to tone down his burst M1 damage
Victor is so weak in lane, I dont understand how people lose to him
>>537922628An overtuned 2 button hero? Please. >>537922662Vyper has the most neurotic kit in the game, none of her abilities tie together. She needs a rework of some kind.
>>537923732teams will get a whiff of stomping and then prolong the game massively. they'll just grab rejuv and then run the urn twice as a team while not pushing a single lane
>>537924246I fucking hate vyper. but I think her core abilities are well-designed. her passive slide and ult are perfectly fine. just need to look at her 1 and 2 for reworking
>>537923732>people in this thread actually let victor get a leadfucking embarrassing
>>537923883it's referencing the devs that made risk of rain 2 hopoo games, Valve hired them to help make characters and items. A huge mistake because those faggots only know how to do items and characters for a PVE rouge-like game and the fact they cant code for shit. fucking sellouts.>>537924246>Vyper has the most neurotic kit in the game, none of her abilities tie together. She needs a rework of some kind. She would play well in risk of rain lmao I hope valve fires these hacks
>>537924606I wish I couldve done something about itWe were in lane and everyone was ~5k souls, suddenly I have victor in my lane and check the scoreboard and him and that faggot pocket have 10k souls no fucking clue what those tards did to give them the easiest lane ever
>post Lash+Abrams+Pocket sexo images many times>no reaction>post Geist (pic rel) just once>instant 3 days ban from all boardsLock bros???? We have a gay snitch among us
>>537923413This. She's an unironic troon bait character
If they dont release this shit soon, its gonna be so far forgotten by the time it does come out
>>537925052repost it
>>537925052>Interracial AI slopKeep that shit in /trash/ or fuck offRare moment where moderation is actually doing its job
>>537924372>passive: enables sliding for infinite ammo>ult: stuns enemies and gives immunity to bullet damageHow is that well-designed?
>>537925052are you sure that picture portrays only Geist?
Anyone else enjoy just fucking around with console commands Sounds like a jet engine when firing
>>537924732They don't even know how to do pve games. RoR1 was okay and RoR2 was rng stat check.
>>537925314vyper can slide into a skirmish, ult someone they want to pick off and chase off their buddy. or can ult the tank and pick off the squishy. it's also a strong counter ult that can save her ass.what sort of ult would you prefer? the medusa ult works well imo
>>537925409make it white
>>537925052Imma gonna snitch to the gay mafia the moment you post anything ever again to keep you str*ightfags down
>>537925052>duuuurrrrr why was i banned for racebaiting hurrrrr
>>537924246Vyper needs immunity to knockups while sliding, her 2 changed to also be a passive focusing on the tier 3 upgrade and her 1 changed to be like sand blast but with a slow that gives damage amp instead of a disarm
>>537925314the 2 pierces ult immunityeven the T5 upgrade applies poison with bullets on ulted targets, though nothing in the game tells you that
>>537925694>immunity to knockups your bkb bro?
i really think mirage needs to have a new ability, maybe his scarab changed to something else. character is so boring to play
>>537925524Dusa ult doesn't give enemy the immunity to her main damage type which is why it works well. My opinion: follow one of these: >literally reverse the effects: immune to spirit, takes dmg from gun>change the knife to something else, preferably building stacks like SD does, to make ult a setup for ez stacking and enable spirit Vyper playstyleYay or nay?
>>537925858He's a 1 ability character that is just a stun/evade most of the match I dunno how this went live.
>>537925858From what I understand he's meant to be this game's version of twisted fate. So he can't be too busted since his ult has so much utility/gank potential.
>>537925969her ult allowing bullet damage would just make her busted and she'd get slammed into F tier again. I think the knife is fine and you could fold venom into it, make her 2 something else entirely
>>537925858>>537926319he also seems like THE aimhack character, just scrap it
>>537925618Post a quality Geist image like this without black bs I'll be happy
>>537926434Lots of characters benefit from aimhacking way more than Mirage does, his bullet damage is actually overall fairly low.
vyper was originally meant to be a gorgon but got changed into just a snake at some pointbut all her abilities are stuck like shes a gorgon
>>537925858Mirage, Vyper, Sinclair and maybe Vindicta.
>>537926434Nah that's Holliday and Haze
Valve should be bullied into making singleplayer games and singleplayer games alone.
they're literally shitting another half life for you in 1-2 years, shut the fuck up bitch
>>537925694>immunity to knockups while slidingThat would be ebolacancer>>537926389>her ult allowing bullet damage would just make her bustedThat would make her kit logical at least, but too similar to Wraith>the knife is fine and you could fold venom into itThere's nothing else in her kit it interracts with
>>537901186Souls for the doorman to steal without any risk
>>537926329his ability doesnt have to be busted, just make it intuitive or fun or something. scarab is a nothingburger ability
>>537926434every aimnigger I've seen plays Vind or Haze
>>537926624vindicta is fine, the only flier I'd like to see change is talon because his current kit is just spirit burst only.>>537925969thinking about it more, here's what I would do for vyper:1. fold 1 and 2 into each other, give it +2 charges as t3 upgrade. so knife skillshot with fading slow and venom burst. skillshot so it's dodgeable but can still strong. would enable spirit vyper.2. her 2 is "slough skin", one-time purge that gives her fire-rate buffs. OR alternatively, some sort of combo skill that synergizes with slide. some anon posted his "tail lash" idea, I think that would work well (the more she slides the more burst damage it would do). would probably end her slide momentum so it would take some skill to use at the right time, but would favor her diving playstyle.
>>537927079LOTS of "aim trainers" from the "aiming community" on Haze, that's for sure.
>>537910082>doorman>Viscous>HolidayHoly shit it's my que rosterWait is deadlock actually a lot easier than I've been experiencing? Could I rocket up ELO of I picked different characters?
>>537927268>have paradox on team>constantly bitching on mic in a nasally canadian voice>me and 2 other randoms on team finally tell him to shut the fuck up.>"uhmmm im 7-2">tries to fight the 3/5 warden>dies>ends game with a negative KD>check steam profile after game>aim trainer and nothing but shooter games with 1000's of hours in eachshooter niggers need to get out.
>>537927235>1. fold 1 and 2 into each otherWould be devastating in lane, poke + damage + execute, unless her venom burst is T3 upgr imo>the more she slides the more burst damage it would doWell this sounds way more fun than 1+2 she has right now and would give her an option of spirit burst build. I suggest you check other suggestions here for a while and post a preferred skillset rework to forum. Vyper is beyond garbage by design, there has to be a way to make her work without overbuffing her gun.
>>537925858like half of the original roster needs their abilities revisited
>>537927757>>537927268What is an aim trainer? What even is the aiming community? My only exposure to it was that one troon hacking in the Battlefield beta.
>>537924128He can become very tanky very quickly because of how his regen scales with spirit. Extra spirit + Extra regen and he's up to 6.2 regen which is quite a lot for the start of the game. His gun DPS is actually fairly good. Pain battery also does quite a lot of damage in lane and he can charge it with jumpstart. He's good at a base level but you can turn him into an absolute lane bully if you want
>>537927268She was taylor made to attract shooter tourists, no surprise here.
>>537927020All they have to do is add a small cooldown between each scarab shot and make it apply djinn's mark. Right now mirage's problem is his gimmick takes too long for how fast the fights are and that would go a long way towards making him viable again
>>537927989It's a fresh new maymay related to that exact troon. His defenders were presenting themselves as experts from the "aiming community".
>>537925349Infernus is also in Deadlock so what's the problem
How do I build Yamato that can actually make a lot of damage?
>>537928751power surge and echo shard 1
>>537928751spirt slash
>>537928904>5 second casting time
>>537926897>two more weeks
>>537928751go gun yamato and split shot her right click to shotgun people.
>>537928904>3k for like 25 damage
>>537920576>>537923007she's actually good if you can play the game
>>537929651yeah but there's only one of those for every 50 mina players out there.the last one i laned with feels like she didn't even have a gun, we lost tower at like 4 minutes.
>>537929550retard
>>537925116that's Paige, not Mina.I have heard ONE masc male playing Paige on VC, the rest were trannies/flamers.
Yamato>one slow ass shit power slash within 15m distanceTalon>many arrows you can shoot across the map with no cooldown or casting timeYamato>some lame hook that does no damageTalon>the fucking owl so you can kill anyone from the distance Yamato>resist buff that will keep you alive for another 8 secondsTalon>nigga can literally fly and stay away Yamato>another slash with close to none damage Talon>a fucking disarm silencer Explain how is this balanced?
>>537929848yeah she attracts the worst players. in both those vindicta games someone else got her and fed like crazy
>>537927421you could literally, unironically, go up an entire tier or two if you started spamming Seven.
>win first victor match 8-2>he drops to my lowest rank hero>lose first drifter match 2-9>he's still above my victor rankshits retarded
>>537929651>mina on enemy teamdestroyed their lane, up 8k souls at 15 mins, wins team fights with ult>mina on my team>loses lane in 4 mins, 1/7 at 10 mins, does nothing but AFK farm, never rotates, nevers uses Ult in team fight except when everyone on team is already dead
>>537930271I keep telling you niggas, elo does not matter. Just play to have fun.Once we have an actual, non-schizo ranked mode then you niggas can start tryharding for real.
>Frogtard>low quality baitevery time
>>537926434why would aimhackers play mirage...?
>>537930042By Yamato being a stronger character than GT?Learn to play frogtard.
>>537909689victor so broken lmaocaptcha: KYS2G
>>537930534Stronger how exactly?
Am I doing something wrong or is Spirit McGinnis just kinda shit? I've been playing her a Heavy cosplay and recently tried out spirit on her.
>>537929848>>537930095>playing Mina so that you don't have to deal with some other retard playing herNew strat to maximize your winrate
>>537930042>nigga can literally fly*CLANG*
>>537930756the game is not fun when spirit ginnis is viable so they simply made it not viable.
Victortrannies are terrible at the game if they're managing to lose on free soul rebirth the hero.
antivictortrannies dont know how to build a single 3200 soul item. SAD!
>>537930852I feel like valve should have learned from tf2 that mini sentries are not fun and then they gave McGinnis 3 of them.
>>537930839it is 100% why i picked her up, her design is solid but I find her voice annoying.
I remember Infernus being heavily, and I mean HEAVILY shilled when the game was starting being first discussed on 4chan, now the shills are pushing Doorman
>>537902114where can i get this mod?
>>537930042Talon is squishy.Not even need that much work to deal with him.Yamato requires silence but nobody wants to buy it.
>>537931317I LITERALLY replied to the post with the file, dawg. >>537916164
The shop keeper asking if you want tickets to "South Pacific" confirms World War 2 did happen and its at least 1949
Mirage rework idea.Keep the same gun.Skill 1: Scarabs. (charge based, but like a normal skill and not the use all the charges before the duration ends type)Attaches a scarab on the enemy that now will cound as a crit/weak spot for mirages gun. the beetle will also do small amounts of damage that heals mirage and apply a Djinns mark ( this mark shares CD with your gun application so you cant double dip). Enemies can help their allies and shoot the beetle off or use debuff remover/Ethereal shift.Skill 2: Mystic cloud.Mirage dashes forward ( like the tornado) but creates a trail of smoke with him. enemies hit instantly get a Djinns mark on them regardless of beetle or weapon CD. every 1.5 sec spent in the cloud applies another mark regardless of CD. this cloud has no CC like the tornado.Skill 3: the same Skill 4: the same but with a few changes.When tp to an enemy, gain a Backstabber like mark on them so you can see where they go for X seconds and bonus move speed.on allies give them barrier and make a 2nd skill smoke cloud that does the same thing.Thoughts?
>>537932231The word "laser" originated in 1959 as an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation
>Abrams and Victor in the same laneWhat do? This combo is so cancer inducing
>>537932632Stay away from them
>>537932632Just farm under tower.
>>537932632shoot them? ignore them?how the fuck are you dying to Victor early game? especially since Abrams doesn't do enough early game to one shot and you can just freely proc resto shot on them to full HP.
Man, I miss winning. Maybe I should stop playing Dynamo.
how do i play this fucking nonbinary, i get absolutely zero damage
>>537932632>2 heroes only effective at short range in one laneThis is a free win are you retarded
>>537933990Is it me or does he look like a manwha main character.
>>537932632dying to victor early is an extreme skill issue. his gun is okay at best and his aura is worse for him rather then you without bigger items
WHY DOES THE 0/9 MCGINNIS GET CARRIED AND WIN WHILE I GET A LEAVER FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>537934078He reminds me of a "trans masc". think of the one that love yaoi and doomed homosexual novel
>>537933990Land your BarrageSpread aids
>>537933990hit barragehit cloakhit satchelhit cold fronthit shotgun shotshit affliction
>>537932859>>537934179>how the fuck are you dying to Victor early game?I never said anything about dying retard. The problem they both have really oppressive regen and refuse to die. its a nothing ever happens lane.>>537932845>be relegated to play the game the most unfun waybravo valve
>>537934179His gun has one of the highest dps' in the game, it's just got a slow velocity and is inaccurate so it's hard to use when not up close.
>>537934545>its a nothing ever happens lane.fucking and? you reddit spacing retard?what, would you rather it be a vindictia/mirage lane?who the fuck cries about this, kill yourself.
>>537932632You don't have to do much of anything. They have terrible wave clear so their ability to push the tower is low. Keep your distance and they legit can't do anything to your lane.
>>537934679I love Funny Ragdolls™
>up against a warden and viscous in lane>they rush the guardian and rape waves in 2 seconds>6 minutes into the match they've already lowered our walker's health to half>warden ults into the walker with no repercussions and does giga damagefun times
>>537934495It's not a shotgun, it's a 7 barrel gun.
>>537934545You don't always need to be fighting.Just neutralize the lane and abuse their dogshit range and mobility later.
>>537934809This is a vibe check lane like infernus + seven where you have to be equally aggressive or you're just fucked.
>>537934809I keep telling people Warden is sleeper OP. He's busted at every stage of the game alongside having one of the best ultsHe even has CC for fuck sake.The only real weakness is a lack of mobility bullshit like Mina's retreats but he still gets move speed from his upgraded barrier so its not completely terrible.
Ok I have a legitimate complaint. The quick cast option is ultra inconsistent, Abram's 1 and Krill's 1 and 3 just get casted instantly
>>537935080He's never been sleeper OP, he's just OP.
>>537935148There are people that don't use the cast on release mode?
>>537934679>tom & jerry yelp dot sfx
>>537935260that's literally quick cast
>>537935080the fact that he gets stamina drain on t1 of his flask (very easy to hit) while mina's stamina drain is a t3 upgrade and requires a love bites trigger is hilarious.
>>537935343There are variants of qc
I saw this funny frog and it reminded me of deadlock hehe
>>537934078Cus all asians rook the same>>537934203kys
Another thing, probably happens to other characters too but I'm looking at Billy now. His 2 doesn't have its range specified, his 4 gives him bullet and spirit resistances but doesn't actually tell you that you get them in the ability description. It shows you the values but the description says only that you slow, silence the enemy movement abilities and after a while pull them towards you.
Do any of you play on controller? I just realized that the game has controller support and gyro aim config, it's really good! Probably the best I've seen from a modern F2P shooter.
>>537936030I respect my teammates too much to do that
Now that bugs are in the wider cultural zeitgeist, when can we expect an insect hero to be released?
>>537934545>its a nothing ever happens lane.you can force them under tower and harass them from the side. getting them low with just your gun it pretty easy considering their giant hitboxes so you can just all in one of them and pick off the other
>>537936030if I see a teammate using a controller I am unironically, pausing and then instantly alt f4ing
>>537936176mina exists
>>537935080>sleeper ophe has the highest winrate in the game at higher elo
>>537936274LMAO
>>537936030Not sure how that'd work You need 2 should buttons for shoot and aim/zoom (important since some characters get alt fires off their zoom too)4 buttons dedicated to abilities (for most characters) 4 buttons dedicated to itemsAND an alt cast buttonThen jump, crouch, melee, parry
Dota TI is on apparently where's eternal envy? Where's Arteezy? Where's pugna dagon?
>>537936553why are you asking here and not the dota general, you retarded subhuman russian dog?
>>537936710this is the dota 3 thread
>>537936543I started playing yesterday and have exclusively played on controller. Dualsense, gyro aim enabled. L1 uses a modeshift to select abilities with the 4 have buttons. Since this game supports the Steam deck it has a very complex controller scheme which I have been using in other games by enabling really complex personalized settings. The fact that this game has it by default and spared me from having to make a costum config from the start has me hooked!
>>537935791>counterspells youPhantom strike is now the only trve item counter to flyers
>>537936543>Not sure how that'd workpeople play final fantasy xiv (a fucking MMO with 3 hotbars of actions) on a controller
>>537937120If you can't play wow on a controller you're not a real gamer
>>537926465Post yourself cutting your wrists and everyone will be happy
>>537905531He made two pieces of kino then disappeared
>>537936274That is not a bug.
i'm done playing support until i hit emissary or some shit. it feels so pointless to play support when people just let lanes get shoved to walker and beyond. it feels more advantageous to never come to a teamfight then to show up and win, but lose two walkers in the process because no one else was looking at the minimap.
>>537906103auhgf,,,,, Eliza my beloved,,,,,
>>537936274lol based
>>537906103It even makes sense to have calico themed after bastet given how much mythology pervades the game design
Heard someone say backstab infinite, what's that?
>>537935148Those abilities have no option for quick cast, if that's what you mean why would you not want to cast them instantly
>>537937939imperial chinese techI don't know
>>537935148why would you not want to cast them instantly?
>>537936543Steam deck theory:>4 back buttons are 4 abilities>Triggers are fire/altfire>4 dpad directions are 4 items>ping/alt cast on right bumper>Melee on left bumper>Jump on A>Crouch on B>Dash on X>Parry on Y>Open shop on select>Pause on pause
>everyone abandoned spirit mirage to go full gunLiterally all you need is boundless and spiritual overflow, then two max pops deal 2.7k damage am I missing something here?
>>537925858>characters that will see no major changes on their kits abrams, geist, bebop, dynamo, viscous, holliday, vindicta, haze, infernus, ivy, wraith, mcginnis, lash, kelvin, pocket, paradox>characters that will get one or two abilities changedseven, warden, yamato, gay talon>characters that will receive full reworksvyper, sinclair, mo and krill, shiv, mirage>character that needs to be deleted or replaced completely by a better design and kitcalico
>>537938456i can't aim so i need ricochet
>>537936030>moba on a controllerJust fuck off man
>>537938456People in general are braindead bots. They don't want to theorycraft. They don't want to play their character in different ways. They want to copy a build and do the exact same thing every single game always. Most characters can be built in multiple different ways and do cool, different things but most people wont think about it and just run what's most popular or what gives the most damage or w/e.
>>537938456You could play a spirit build that doesn't need 12 seconds to deal damage
I FUCKING HATE DRIFTERNERF HIM!
the game takes place in the 1990s, they couldn't commit to the earlier, more kino era. So gay
Ivy (gun Ivy specifically), Paradox, and Mo players are always the most likely to be whiny faggots on my team that blame everyone else for their poor performance, don't know why this is
>>537938456Who is "everyone"
>>537938456Do you know how long it takes to max pop someone? You could instead just shoot them and kill them in half the time with a gun build.
Torment Pulse used to be the best item in the game, what happened?
>>537939126>supports characters are weaker with a shit team
>>537938107>>537938207so that I dont miss them by like a meter
>>537939302Cooldown got nerfed to not work on items unless you get the 6k cooldown item.
>>537938456>i don't understand the concept of time
>>537939408They also cut its damage in half 4 months ago
Toxic Bullets on Kelvin is actually really good
>>537939367how are you going to miss them? do you have some kind of depth perception issue?
>>537939732you are a braindead nigger, like a literal normalfag. I hate these kind of retarded questions
>>537939848im not the dumb nigger missing giant AoEsKEK
>drifter and viktor on your team memeSo it's true uh
>>537939915KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK my fellow redditor
How come whenever I'm caught off guard my team are nowhere to be found, but whenever I catch them off guard they pull 3 niggas out they ass to demolish me?
gun or spirit on drifter
Is there a way to build Kelvin so he becomes a solo carry?
>>537940304>victor on your team>kills himself after throwing himself into a gank>somehow has most deaths on a hero with auto-rejuv>their victor>raidboss that holds w on you and farms your supportsissies like breakable pickupsit’s all so tiresome
>>537940605you never caught anyone off guard, you were just baited
dota general is a few door down
>>537938885>>537939181>>537939453That's fair, I'm just mucking about in a build for a character I haven't touched in forever. 24k is a high asking price but these numbers is from only two headshots (to keep crippling up) followed by bodyshot magdumps while reloading with mercurial. This was only two magazines worth of rounds emptied in 7 seconds so you gotta admit there is something here. The build would truly shine if you mostly went gun anyways but the pops doing so much means these items shouldn't be ignored.
>went full support kelvin>ended up with the most kills on my team>losti'm actually so fucking done playing support. i can actually have impact as mirage. fuck this cuck ass role. all you need is knockdown anyway
>Would love a full list of who created what heroes movesets because it's interesting to see how a creator's personal preferences and mindset carries between different hero ideas>Will never get it because too many retards would use it as a weapon to arbitrarily decide who is the better creatorDamn shame.
>>537942330we already have the worst designer publicaly claiming credit for the worst characters in the game, what more do you need?
>>537942330not really, League does this and nobody really talks about it aside from very niche and rare shitposting.the ONLY one who got shit was certaintlyT and even then he did his job at making popular kits.
>Doorman is probably going to get his bells nerfed because of constant seething even though there's plenty of easy to land cancer poke in the game>Likely going to happen without buffing other aspects of his kit so he'll be giga shit tierSigh
Pocket mains post build
Yamato seems easy to play, so I must be missing something.
>>537943508Everything should be easy in initiate
>>537943212reddit defense force already out crying about victor pubstomping and doorman laningThe biggest shitters who will make Yoshi confine a hero to one playstyle like they made seven into an m1 hypercarry only
>>537943508Try hunting down an enemy and then as he turns the corner it's 3 of them
How do you play Paige? It just feels useless
>>537943212doorman has one of the lowest winrates in the game and has no way to carry a game even if you're the best player in the lobby.yet they wont whine about warden (who is an even stronger laner btw) who scales to late game and has one of the strongest (strongest with lighting scroll) ults in the game. ah shit, warden hit 4 with lightning scroll? guess that walker is his now!
>>537944058i think the community has just accepted warden and seven are yoshis mains or some shit i cant believe theyve been allowed to dominate for so long with barely any downsides
>>537943738The spirit build is a meme unless you build the refresh cooldown active item, and even then the game should be over by then.The support build has its uses but its gay as fuckTo solo carry you basically need to build gun. Good luck!
>>537944142Seven is like the face of this game because so many of the edgy motherfuckers who play this game love his design and personality.
Help make this accurate (while also keeping it even)
>>537943738broken hero. fuck paige
>>537944547I'm on the opposite end, I can't stand how much of an edgelord he is but he allows me to carry games no matter what so I play him.
uh oh the game is dying again
>>537944629retarded list, fuck you
>>537944721Oh fuck I'll just have to take a break and play another videogame before the next big update how horrible.
>>537944721All the people that rejoined/started getting farmed by people that never stopped playing smurfing since it's a free game
vgh...we need to play league of legends sisters!
Does Victor has some weird passive that just makes him significantly slower even if you buy your typical speed items? It feels like you're always slow unless you jump start, which I guess could be the point?
>>537943684That's not really a problem exclusive to Yamato though.
>>537944629What is the meaning of them, like how can Infernus be "artillery"
>>537944898low movespeed/dash & air dash is intentional
>>537944721Wait until they introduce crates and watch the numbers mysteriously shoot up to six digits again with completely organic non-botted activity cycles.
>>537944721The modern gamer needs rewards to play beyond getting good. When that stuff gets introduced, the modern gamer will be incentivized to stick with it. Even more so when tournament winnings start coming into play.
>>537935791There should be a pepe hero
>>537945074zamn, already pre-coping before they implement the crate system? you crazy bruh
Knockdown is such a good item and it's range is insane.
>>537944890vgtw
>>537944976Brawler- Tanky sustain close rangeDisruption- Area control and CCAssassin- burst damage and high mobility Magician- weird stuff “rule breaking” abilitiesCollaboration- support abilities (while not being pure support)Artillery- high continuous far range dps/carries
>>537944890vvgn, vvgq, tranny
Light melee parry should not stun as long a heavy melee parry
>>537945781You're right, it should be longer
they took out parry while dashing?
how do i holliday
>>537945970you also can't parry while jumping anymore it says "can't jump while busy" died to a fucking guardian earlier while diving cause of it.
>>537944721>oh no my queues pop in 1:30 instead of 1:15 now, if i can't spam games and feel even the slightest negative emotion i'm busy trying to suppress i don't know what i'll do
I like Vindicta but I can't aim for shit, fuck this gay world
>>537946035>jumpad>melee barrel down>hit headshot in the air>land on enemy>barrel and melee again>run awayRinse & Repeat
>>537945421I guess I would make these changesTalon is ArtilleryVyper and Mina are AssassinsGeist is BrawlerInfernus and Holliday are Disruption
>>537945781Kill yourself meleetard
>>537945781maybe don't be so predictable, retard? deserved.
>>537945781na
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NARL9m0e_sk
>>537902114
Rebuttal should be changed to Explosive Rebuttal>Explosive Rebuttal >If you parry an enemy hero they immediately die>if you parry and no enemy heroes melee you, you immediately die after your parry expires
>>537946648hitting barrel is hard
>>537934078you reckon Pocket has a lightsaber cock?
>>537944721Mina players found another waifuslop, 20k players leaving soon
Paige is fun and she is sexyI approve
>>537947246what the fuckhow
>>537947589its one of the easiest abilities in the game to land, it's literally just splatter with CC on ithow retarded are you
>>537947512that's retardedpeople would just buy it to kill themselves to deny souls and warp to base early game.
ANOTHER DOGSHIT GAME WHERE INFERNUS/HAZE PERMA FARMS AND COMES OUT WITH 10K SOULS ADVANTAGE AND RAPES EVERYONE WOOHOOOOOOOOI LOVE PVE GAMING
>>537947912you can already do that on the guardian
>>537947246I learned to never play after midnight eastern time, I went from mostly winning to losing 6 games in a row
>>537947998Invade their jungle, gank, and keep lanes shoved
imagine waking up and justlocking in mirage/wraithwhat the fuck is wrong with these "people"
Just had the worst loss of my career and I fell down 3 ranks god I want to die
>>537948305>careerlol
>go spirit holliday>spill my spaghetti and fuck up a barrel or two in a teamfight>feel like I'm just sitting there waiting for my cooldowns while the rest of the team is punching onfugg, getting better at landing barrels aside I feel like full spirit ain't a great idea on her
>>537948161They're still more honest than Warden, Seven, or Drifter
>>537948117yeah man just gank bro theres nothing wrong with the games design just invade
>throw a won gamehumbling
drifters ult is a problem
>won a thrown gameshit I'll take it
>>537948117>Invade their jungle,and then get 3 man collapsed on after Haze pops 2 and sprints away or Infernus flame dashes away.>gankread above>keep lanes shovedmore souls per minute for them to farm.so many winning scenarios!
there's literally 0 consistency for what walls count for Billy's ult and what walls don'tfucking retard ass ability
>>537948491If they are afk farming you are in a 6v5 and have an advantage if you or your team don't do anything with that that's on you. Take their farm, push objectives, force them to fight with a bag, these are all valid options. If they get to just exist AFK on the map and there's no punishment it means you're borderline afk as well
>>537948876is not sevens ult
>>537948876I feel like I've been yoinked out from a wall more times by that stupid ult than any bebop hooks that hit me the moment I get to cover
>>537948109>try and play around 1pm>feeding leavers>try again at 8pm>feeding and leavingwtf is the best time for this god damn it
most broken warden build for low elo? I need to solo carry my retarded team and climb myself out
>>537949051weekday evenings are usually consistent
>Have a 60% winrate with Ivy>Get a string of the worst teammates possible that dump me down to 50%>As soon as I hit 50% I get an easy game suddenlywow real subtle valve
>>537949081isn't there a rey flask build? use that or the metro build.haven't played that drooler champ in a while.
If the anon asking for the 1/30 Victor game screenshot is here, I've got itPlease disregard my seven stats as I was the sacrificial lamb for the haze (I also played like shit)>>537948731Hey, at least you didn't throw by forgetting to push and having the lane creeps kill the patron like I saw a few days ago
>>537949081deathys hybrid
>>537948780It's the best ult in the game right now don't care what anyone says
Drifter should have been a werewolf
>Drifter, Haze, Victor, Paige, Infernus, KelvinThere is literally not a single. Fucking. Thing. You can do against this comp. Just had a 50 minute match of this shit because they kept fucking with us and backing out of teamfights whenever they killed a few people.Afterwards they would just take all of our jungle while we have to watch like the good little cucks we are. We had NO farm, anytime we would try to farm lane was an instant gank. Fucking aids.
>>537949760duration will probably be lowered a bit (1-2s). but that's about it. maybe they'll still allow abilities to be seen through the fog?
>Warden goes on this ALLCAPS monologue at start where he says he will arrest everyone inevatibly>Uses binding word precisely 2 times in first 10 minutes>I was laning with him>As Paige>I had to initate both times to make him go inWhat makes people act like this?
hi im a deadlock dev, here's a leak for the upcoming werewolf character>ULTIMATE: Looks-to-moon takes off her tube socks, revealing her big stinky paws. All heroes who are in the AOE cloud are stunned except for Mina who is pulled in.
>>537949812ummm have you tried invading and ganking them early in the game?
>>537949123rip me cause i have to make dinner around that time guess i just gotta farm and sweat some more for a win tonight
>>537949894you might be autistic
Can you i-frame out of Doorman's ult has anyone tried that?
>>537949812um...just invade them? gank them bucko???maybe...shove a wave???heh, RETARD?oh, my rank? yeah, i'm kind of a big deal.heh, ritualist 6.I know I know. kind of a big shot.ask for some more tips, I know u need em, heh...
>>537949953>>537950115this is cope from homos who got schooled by an eternus it. you are eternally assmad that you have hit the wall in your skill progression so you hide behind ironic shitposts
>>537950115Are you that mindbroken over people offering you a solution?
>>537950323Yeah man clearly the game isn't wrong it's the player
>>537950323>>537950343you lost
>>537944629Viscous and McGinnis are called "disruptor" in the character select screen
>>537950031You can counterspell and quantum entanglement out of it
>>53795045270% winrate on Lash, cocksucker.
>>537947898i just lost two moreevery timevampire bat on my team2/10defeat
M1 derangement has crippled this general beyond belief, people are too pigheaded to attempt any kind of counterplay
How do I intentionally tank my mmr without getting reported and banned?
>>537947589You have to be somewhat above them to make it easy to hit. Barrel on the ground takes some getting use to.
>>537950560do you play any fair characters or just the ult bot?
>>537950560>70% winrate on Lash, bub>heh, over how many games?>yeah, 15....>in ritualist>i'm kind of the GOAT, heh...>my bros call me Jacob because of how epic I am at Lash, heh...
>>537950590You will NEVER be an eternus you fat fucking nigger.>>537950658Not happening.
>>537950658Play Mina
>>537950590counterplay is when you risk everything to stop the haze from farmingdo you know what risk vs reward is
>>537950658Play mina/kevin/paige
>>537950791Kelvin is good though
>>537950749Haze's early game is extremely weak there is barely any risk unless you somehow managed to lose lane against her, what hero are you playing that you're struggling so hard?
>>537950961I'm aware, he also has global aggro from being an annoying asshole so you can feed more without being suspicious
>>537950965>haze's early game is extremely weak???sleep dagger allows her to escape anything, her midrange is about as easy and strong as infernus. if she crumbles due to shitty teammate, that's everyone in the game.
>>537951183>Haze's early game is extremely weak
>>537951358meant for >>537950965
>>537950965>Haze's early game is extremely weakit's literally entirely in Haze's hands if she dies in a 1v1.you cannot kill her if she just hits you with a dagger then runs away with 2.
>Shitlows actually think Haze has a strong early gamePost your main alongside your retarded takes so we can all laugh at you
>>537951903you called it extremely weak, she's VERY safe while farming.you drooling retarded haze monkey.
>>537951903yeah has the same kind of early game as infernus, are you going to call him a weak laner too?
>>537952056I play Doorman, Lash, and Calico if you are struggling against Haze early game and can't outplay a fucking sleep dagger you are dogshit
>>537950528Not what I asked. Thanks for nothing.
>>537902114whats wrong with mirage?
>>537952203when you're diving the Haze, you're going to be in easy dagger range.sorry you play in a cancer low where Haze players can't even land a dagger at 10m.
>>537952203>getting in on haze as any of these charactersmust be nice in lowelo niggerville
>team takes mid boss>we're up 10k networth>double the kills>run back to farm our jungle>i die cause im the only person that pushedhahaha im a retard
just nerf the jungleeasiest fix to the gamestop the pve loving faggots
>>537952445>>i die cause im the only person that pushedI make it a point to go>so we killed 4>need a slot>blue is shoved to their walker>and we all go back into the jungle to do what?>???when this happens, it's ALWAYS met with silence.even in fucking oracle this shit happens. player base is filled with retards with 0 macro sense.
>>537952121Infernus has actual damage and a proper get out of jail free card early game, Haze doesn't>>537952294>>537952387You dishonest shitlows gonna post your heroes or what?
>drifter enemy team>20k lead, destroys everyone in seconds, unkillable>drifter in my team>dies in enemy jungle (he will do it again)At least i discovered that disarming hex exists...but feels like only good if you're gun yourself and can burst down hard.
>>537952636>Infernus has actual damage and a proper get out of jail free card early game, Haze doesn't
>>537952220Always!
>Infernus has actual damage and a proper get out of jail free card early game, Haze doesn'tare hazetrannies for realSleep dagger into invis is far better than flame dash for escaping early game.
>>537952765Wow you pushed her off her farm now you can take it from her so she can't afk farm til she's up 10k like you're claiming
>win 9 games in a row>go up 2 ranks>lose 2 games>down 2 ranksplease help me out of this trench i have like a 70% WR and climbing is so fucking hard stilli dont want to play with league babies who dont understand map presence anymore grandpa
Whats the point of calico, or mirage for that matter.They seem like "split push" heroes except they can't 1v1 unless really big and really anyone can split push already.
>>537952948She just goes to another camp...breaking every case..taking a wave..going back to jungle........meanwhile you're risking your death invading her if anyone on the enemy team is closeDo you understand?
>>537952948>Wow you pushed her off her farm now you can take it from herLMFAOOOOOOOOOO ARE THESE RETARDS REALno, you get 2-3+ man jumped because you're fucking slept in the enemy jg and the haze called out your position
>>537952948no one is even talking about farm retard, this is a laning convo
playing any tank is horrible because your retarded teammates will never EVER fucking help you when you combo/charge/etc. and take it as a invitation to run away to jungle
they should just get rid of the jungle, there's absolutely zero cases where farming is better than just denying wave and hitting boxes until the next wave comes and it just incentivizes retards to sit afk in them and feed 2k souls to drifter
>>537953085>>537953201So these are the bots I get in my games that can't kite and are afraid to apply any kind of map pressure huh
>victor farms all game and doesn't participate in fucking anything>i have finished farming t. victor>runs a lane through basically alone and starts causing havoc in the enemy base>rest of us join in and just win the game, victor unkillablealright
>>537953563>no argumentI accept your concession
how to I get out of seeker hell
>>537953604had the same exact experience today lol, this game rewards ego way way way too much in a fucking team game
>>537953292You could say that for anyone but an m1 carry who was in the jungle for 25 minutes and has the highest net worth in the match
>>537953626>Still hasn't posted what heroes you play>Admits he's shitlow by claiming Haze is strong early game>Incapable of playing around sleep daggerIt's fine you're bad at the game just please keep your retard takes to yourself
>>537953794i'm phantom 4, tranny. you'll never even sniff archon on a no talent character like Haze.start gargling my balls, cancerlow. I am your daddy.
I'll ask the same question I had last thread. Why do some people get backstabber in the laning phase? It seems so niche because people aren't as often facing away from you for you to be able to apply it.
>>537953908>Genuinely afraid to share what heroes he plays>Gloating about being Phantom>Accuses me of being a Haze main just because I know how to play around herKek
>>537953929you'll proc it even if they turn around for just a little bit
>>537954080>>Genuinely afraid to share what heroes he playsI don't need to name shit tranny.>Gloatingand yet I am double your rank, shitlow.I could stomp your peak lobbies as gun GT. i'd spit in your mouth if I knew your faggot ass wouldn't like it.
starting to think i don't have the genes to play this game
>gun paigeget this bitch off the map!!!!
>>537954689forgot to mention we lost :(
>ah bloo bloo gun paige le brokenmetal skin literally deletes this character
this game needs a surrender button to be honest
>kill Billy three times in lane>third time Haze kills me and Yamato>lose guardian but Bebop comes in as we respawn to push tower>Yamato abandons lane despite having good health and it being 3v2, both of us ask why>"no point, Haze was fed">abandons a few minutes later when Haze actually is fed from winning that fightI don't understand
>>537954852>gets rooted and knocked up by ulthow does metal skin help with that
WHAT
>new OP heroes released>seven stabilizes to a even higher 58% winrateok can they do some real substantial nerfs to seven now
>>537955157he'll deal with the hooligans
vindictas are either godlike snipermasters or 0/10 3k final damage retards
>>537955157>CALL BELL IS BROKEN GUYS>gets buffedshitterbros...we lost...
>>537955157i fucking love doorman
>>537953929>>537954231It procs anytime someone dashes back, which it really shouldn't. It should just be purely camera based.
>Mina buffed massivelyoh no no I'm gonna be unstoppable now
What the fuck does she see in Lash
>>537955157wait, I didn't even think about how massive of a buff that is.that means you NEED to wait out that timer instead of just jumping down and either counterspelling or prepping an ult and falling into the pit with billy/warden ult.very nice.
>>537955667if you don't see it, you must be blind
>>537955645those buffs are genuinely fucking insane, character is going to be gigabroken now.
My favorite part about Lash or Doorman is just jumping towards an enemy and seeing them run away in fear
>ctrl+f "geist">nothingMy beloved balanced gilf
these are some AI tier buffs for Vyperwhat was the point of any of these shit ass meaningless "buffs"I still love how astronomically useless Vyper 1 is compared to the warcrime that is Napalm.
>>537955157Great, they gave the ult less counterplay
Just fucking remove this gay ass item. It's on every hero on every game and most fights everyone just farts on each other and I'm tired of this shit.
>>537956095stop getting initiated on dumb haze
best character for a mindless gorilla player?
>haze downplayer already sperging outI am tired of these niggers
>- Siphon Bullets: Max HP Steal reduced from 55 to 35it has never been more over than it is right now
Low MMR retard here, is this good or bad for Sinclair? Seems bolt spam is worse but building around rabbit is better and the ult stuff is QoL (since the normal cooldown only factors if you copy an ult and die or don't use it), and I don't know if spectral assistant's changes are good or not because I don't understand how the spirit scaling factors in over time
>>537956326He's a little weaker early game but he scales even harder now
>>537956326>they buffed his rubick ultlol
>>537956178Don't project. Never played Haze once. Every laning phase is someone rushing this and it's GG unless you also rush it and use it too, otherwise you're down 120 health (now 100, who cares) and slowed to shit.
>>537954231>>537955520Not enough
>>537956473>it's GG if they rush itkite bro. only character it's really really stupid on is lash, but you should be hugging cover when you know hear him laughing
>>537956093The counterplay is supposed to be movement, not cubing yourself
>>537956585It's not stupid on him, he fucking needs it.
They fucking nerfed my Siphon Bullets rush strat??? It wasn't even that good!
>Oh, the new heroes are a little too strong but that's okay, i'm sure they'll get balanced out later>>>>>Billy HEALTH BUFFS and a cooldown reduction?????????????????????>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DOORMAN BELL GETTING BETTER SCALING AND YOU CAN'T PURPOSEFULLY LOSE THE HOTEL TO GET OUT QUICKER????????????????????>MINA LOVE BITES EASIER TO PROC AND DOES MORE FUCKING DAMAGE ???????????????????
>>537948423her kit is garbage, especially in pubs where nobody utilizes her launchpad
>>537956643so when are they making it so you cant get out of every other ult
>>537957064It's so funny that getting health stolen by siphon back triggers Healing tempo
ALL HAIL YOUR QUEEN
>>537957126Mina and Doorman were genuinely weak and dogshit though they needed the buffs, Billy was actually fine though
Siphon bullets is basically better than lifesteal in most cases
>vindicta nerfsare you retarded yoshi?
>>537956080idk why they think anyone playing vyper is going to give a shit about the dagger when its the most whatever part of the kit next to her ult
Posting this again, first draft of a vyper rework I'll post on teh feedback forum, feedback appreciated if you have any ideas:3 stamina1 - Throw a dagger, dealing spirit damage and injecting the target with lethal venom. After a delay the venom triggers, dealing spirit damage. The damage is increased by the target missing health. 10s CD.T1 - +35 Max venom damageT2 - -4s CDT3 - Lethal venom applies 40% healing reduction2 - Lunge forward stabbing enemies with your knife and dealing spirit damage. This ability has the properties of a dash (meaning she can use it to perform a dashjump or slide afterwards, does not exhaust a dash as air option). Holds charges.16s CD.T1 - +damageT2 - +1 chargeT3 - Increases damage dealt to hit targets by 15% for 4 seconds3- Passive: You have increased slide distance, can slide up hills, and can turn faster while sliding. Active: Automatically slide at max speed while you're on the ground (Duration 5 seconds).45s CD.T1 - +20% slide distanceT2 - +3s duration.T3 - +15% bullet and spirit resist while sliding.4- No changes
>victor still has his dispel>but he can now only do it every 4 seconds instead of every 1 second... I guess?
>>537957578Fucking retard. Mina might be a little weak but buffing her m1 rate and damage is not good. You will be bitching that she melts half your health bar in .3 seconds without using a single ability
>>537957749>dagger still in kitshe needs her dagger/grenade placeholder slop shit out and a new ult that isnt useless
>>537957768t. Vindict-nigger with 4 different debuffs from half across the map
paige is the most HONEST new charactermany are saying this!
>>537957867I believe mixing her current 1 and 2 makes for a decent ability in line with what other characters have. What would you replace the dagger with?
>>537940750any of the gun builds
>>537958223tail constrict
>>537955157>>537956095>>537956326Where do you find these patch notes?
>>537957769Oh no a squishy actually gets to do damage comparable to the various tanky fucks in the game. Glass cannons should actually be cannons as opposed to just glass, I don't even play her much and I'm happy to see loving buffs
I played a support heavy healing McGinnis and managed to turn the tide against the enemy team. I even got a recc. After eating dirt all day yesterday, I'm really happy to be a good support.
>>537956643you can still cube yourself, you just have to enjoy your stay at the baroness first
Time to play Ult Bebop again.
>>537958405That would be either a m&k ult or a holliday ult on a basic ability broEven if it's short duration I don't see how it meshes with the rest of her kit
>Drifter: Bloodscent T3 Bonus amp damage reduced from +11% to +10%who gives a shit
>>537958454https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>>537957650I do kind of wonder what they expect for Vindicta to be. I'll probably try a game out maxing her flight first to see if the +spirit damage is enough to turn it into something like Seven's 3 ability, but I doubt it, especially since his ability chains to other targets.
>>537957126billy wasn't that strong, what really carries him is his ult. doorman needed it unironically.
With THE gun Ivy item nerfed, will people now finally stop going gun Ivy?
>>537958698so is hazes sleep dagger
>>537959130yeah now there's no reason to play her
So why does Dynamo have a lane wide, spammable CC attack that does 600+ damage?
>>537959437just jump nigga, it's not difficult
>shadow veil buffed, bebop buffedyep its speedbop time
>>537959196Okay, how would it work? Would vyper be able to move or slide while grabbing someone? For how long?
>>537936030I fucking hate controllers. Im convinced the new menu interface is designed around them with the holding down of buttons to do things now
>>537958505>loving buffs kek. she needs it to not be a 40% WR insta loss for which team was unlucky enough to roll her.
>>537959437Are you seriously complaining about a low tier character? Is that what we're doing now in /dlg/?
so we having sex with pocket or what
>>537946624just play an echo shard stake + alch fire build
>>537936030You'd need like a billion buttons no? I don't see how this game is fit for a controller unless it has a bunch of extra buttons>>537936112>>537936265>>537938727>>537959891Gyro aiming actually solves main issue controllers had in shooters, it's unironically a decent way to play them once you are used to it.
>>537960123This thread was bitching about Haze earlier for dozens of replies most people here are below even Emissary just have to remember that, they probably don't even know you can jump his stomp
>Bullet Resist Shredder: No longer grants +20% Melee Resistanceunexpected melee buff
>>537960303Haze is legitimately top tier, league above Dynamo
>>537960303>bitching about haze>disputing your retarded complaint that haze is a weak lanernot beating the deranged M1 player allegations are you? nobody whining about the shiv buffs is the real funny thing tho
>Billy Buffswhy?
>>537957749That's lame, If Vyper is gonna slitter a around like a morph ball. Just let Vyper plant bombs like in Samus and make it charge based . If you want to be fancy with it like her bomb jump for some movement tech. There I've solved Vyper being a boring ass gun character and made her unique.
>>537960507Haze is a weak laner though
>>537959981My aim is to keep her current playstyle but remove the boring parts (her shitty 1 that does nothing), I would have also liked to propose a rework for her ult but I don't have any good idea for that.The idea of a trapper with bombs is better fit for another hero I think, one that isn't a street mugger.
i liked brooling in the dumpster i don't know what my rank is right now, but people don't brool anymore, way too many sweats
>>537960692>10hp flat buff>3 second CD reduction from a 33 second abilitynot really big buffs thobeit
Being hardstuck in Alchemist is suffering. Tried to play Drifter. What was my crime here? How do I offset a guy going 0-10?
>>537958505duhhh do big damage but not much health duhhh balanced!!! ignore her escapes lmao retard
>>537960783go 10-0
>>537960820Yeah her single target skillshot on a long CD>B-But her invisIf you lose an invis Haze you are below even ritualist
>Victor: Jumpstart recharge timer increased from 3s to 8smaybe im retarded but i dont understand what this means
do I need to change my build after this update
>>537902831Exetremely fun unless you're solo queue.
>>537961297how often you can spam it when you have many charges
>>537959694Not that anon but you could make it quick and treat it like a reverse Billy 2>sweeps with her tail, grabs the first player the sweep hits>pulls them in, stuns them for a second>constrict animation dealing a small burst of damage>pops them in the air to get sprayed while you slide in one of any number of directions to mix up where the opponent needs to reorient for the fight
>>537961297The cd between charges usage, not to be confused with the cd to recharge a charge
>>537961297Means if he has multiple charges there's a cooldown of 8 sec between them instead of 3. Means he can't just chain purge debuffs and run away as easily
>Seven: Incoming crit resistance reduced from -35% to -25%This is a stat?
>>537961384Also one of the upgrades could recharge a bar of stamina on successful grab so she can dash out of it with no stamina or give more sustained chase
>>537961518characters with really big heads (or multiple heads) take reduced headshot damage
>>537960237men can't have sex with men dude
>>537961367>>537961409>>537961421thanks fellas
Someone feed that cracker misinformation
I've been calling people niggers for the entire year and I never got muted or banned, feels good bros
Hey you should be respectful to those around you
What am I supposed to do with these stats?
>>537961384>>537961557That's a very nice idea actually, you can even sneak in the venom proc in the constrict animation as vyper bites her target. My only concern would be how feasible the grab would be animationwise, since her tail is her legs and that's something valve will take into consideration. I'll make sure to integrate it in the post.Do you have any ult ideas for vyper?
>highest dps in the game>3 second cc on her 1 >invis that lets her zoom around the map >100-0 no skill ult that melts> unkillable when she gets any kind of lifestealyeah haze is so weak guys
>it's another ivy forgets she can just grab someone and fly out with them when they're both dying episodeREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>537962260>since her tail is her legsMean to say "since her tail is what she stands on", ESL curse
>>537962231Be grateful
>>537962276>
>>537962434>just buy a 6400 item to counter my broken hero bro!
Victorbros, I dont think he's coming back from these massive nerfs
>>537962231me as horrible aim
>use aimbot>go 5-16>lose anywaylmao even
>>537962781post their damage breakdown
>>537962434Requiring one or more players to rush a tier 4 flex item early in the game to help with one hero out of six is powerful on its own.
>>537962542As if she doesn't need 3 times more of that amount to be broken.
>>537962865they're good cheats, sir
>>537962742you're like a baby watch this
>>537962542>
>>537962260(Me)>My only concern would be how feasible the grab would be animationwiseI think this could be solved by making it so instead of the target being pulled to vyper it is vyper who gets pulled to the posititon of her target to constrict them, that way she doesn't have to make some weird pose or flot awkwardly while she's pulling, and moving around fits her better than standing still in the same place.
>>537962231>I'm in the bottom 5% in most categoriesIt really is genuinely over for me
>>537962231What site even is this, deadlock tracker?
>nerfed Siphon specifically in a way that ruins it for gun-Ivy builds, the one remaining way to play her that wasn't basically throwingI see that after nearly a year they still have no idea what they want from this character.
>>537963076meanwhile Abrams and Lash are hard countered by 1600 items but for Haze I have to buy a 3200 that doesn't even stop her no skill ult
Man I used to play other online multiplayer games with a bit of competitiveness and "builds" you can do like Dead by Daylight or Marvel Rivals and after playing Deadlock for just a 100 hours those games feel so shallow and casual by comparison. It's crazy how deep this game is.
>>537963392
HOLY FUCK MINA IS SO BROKEN NOW
>>537963412try dota
>retarded faggot victor wins his lane and won't stop pressing w into your team for 30minutes straight until you losewow epic I'm having fun
Wardenbros we lost a whole 10 damage per flask, is he still viable?
>>537963856if victor is winning after these nerfs you deserve to lose
>>537964107Nah man it's over time to join the Seven Nation Army
>>537960715You can make any skill thematically relevant with the right naming convention and visuals. Don't limit your thoughts on based on that.
>>537963856>Oh no he's going to heal for 100-300 hp!Just click his head
>buffed Shiv back into cancer territorymight aswell uninstall now
>Dying to a non-player (when there is no bounty/assists) now increases the respawn time for that death by 10 secondsThere is basically 0 reason to try to kill an enemy laner unless you can cleanly 100-0 them now I don't really like this change, you're basically punished for getting first blood
GT giga brokenShiv literally cannot die
>>537963412buddy never play dota or you will die, dont even open the fucking client or your life will become theory crafting about how just one change to meteor hammer makes support am viable.
>>537964107Valve clearly thinks Warden is the new balance anchor of Deadlock over Seven, given that Warden is the protagonistHe will always be viable
>Victors aura is 8m nowmight as well just delete the character since one dodge gets you out of it and without expansion and even with, it's useless
So Holliday and Victor are dead, Mina is the giga broken hero of the patch.
>>537964248it's so you dont suicide to neutrals for a quick back for full health
>>537964454The only time you were really doing that was after getting a kill on one or both enemy laners is my point, just feel like there's even less of a point to fighting in lane now and that stage is gonna drag on more now in certain matchups
kinda shocked they nerfed drifter and not Billy. And they nerfed rebuttal.
>>537964560>I have no instant 10 second back in lane heal and I must brooooooool!
>>537964560>there's even less of a point to fighting in lane nowalmost like the point of laning is to kill the guardian and not to pretend you're playing CS wingman
>>537964560its still worth doing in some cases, but its somwthing that's been in dota forever because it was so optimal people would suicide to neutrals at like 50% health.
I never stopped believing
>>537964778Certain heroes can hold lane hostage due to superior wave clear or poke and you can't push tower without fighting them
>>537964950honestly disgusting how they buffed an already insane charactergotta keep the gooners happy I guess
Is t3 love bites still a meme? I think I might only max out 2 then 4 then 1
4th loss already bro i can't take it throw me a bone or something
thoughts on this warden build?
>>537965070>Already insane heroIs /dlg/ only capable of disingenuous faggotry?
>>537965162>highest souls and damage in your team as Kelvinit never began
yo why the fuck am i in ritualist 1 with these stats genuinelyi know i'm not a good player but i am better than the dogshit i play against and am surrounded by. i'd like to play against actually good players and get shit on so I can try and get better but every game I go 10-0 in laning phase and then i either win the game cause my team listens to me when i say "do mid boss" or lose cause they are retarded and jungling the whole game
>>537965483i was bullying the mo n krill most of the time but his butt buddy always came back
>channel Warden's ult>Viscious from the other lane divebombs me with his ult and jump>on 2 minute cooldown>channel Warden's ult>MnK who was focusing Viktor locks in and ults you>on 2 minute cooldown>channel Warden's ult>hiding around a corner to stay safe>Ally runs next to me with Seven's 2 on him>on 2 minute cooldownI'm seething man.
>>537965317you don't play ult warden without majestic leap
>What if the character who is meant to be in as many teamfights as possible just had 0 move speed outside of the occasional fortitude????How is this the most popular build on her dude you move like fucking molasses. I don't even understand the logic of all the gun items besides headshot booster/mystic shot. Even with this stuff her gun damage is pitiful and yes I know her carbine scales off of your gun but man I would much rather have the move speed over sometimes being able to nuke someone
>>537965635>>MnK who was focusing Viktor locks in and ults youlike this is a bad thing? your aura thing still goes offWarden has literally one of the most baby mode ults in the game and you're complaining about a little bit of stun? the fucking ult lasts forever man you are retarded
>>537965325>Is /dlg/ only capable of disingenuous faggotry?Ask yourself. Is /dlg/ only capable of disingenuous faggotry? You certainly are.
>>537965325pretty muchdudes smurf at initiate 1 and assume thats the entire game
>>537965640Thanks ill add it in
>>537963097Give it an alt cast that lets her target allies and she just becomes tethered to their movement for a few seconds, if she coils around lash she starts whispering yandere drivel
>>537965998>a hero that can literally one shot midboss, walkers and the patron with one ultimateNice samefag though faggot. Not fooling anyone.
>>537965967What website?
>>537966084Half the cast can melt objectives if built for it while also bringing much more to the table, she could be good now after the changes but to imply she was busted before is a retarded shitlow take>Letting a Mina push your waves up that much Lmao
>>537966176statlocker.gg
>>537957179Naa her kit is pretty gud it just takes some getting used to
>>537966289They are going to make her ultimate deal 50% on all objectives soon. Just wait nigger. They did this to Bebop, they will do it to Mina too. There's no rationale that you're winning a game and some Mina sneaks into your base and one shots the walker due to a retarded passive stacking skill that takes no skill to stack. I'll await fore your faggot tears lmfao
>>537966289>Letting a Mina push your waves up that muchNTA but I've seen Mina's go past troopers into a base with an exposed patron and using ultimate to end the game in 1 second as the sole survivor. Her ultimate is overtuned as fuck when it comes to hitting single target objectives.
>>537965732Figuratively who
do you guys actually play together or is vg just ppl that complain about the game all day
ay lmao
>>537966543i wouldnt ever play with any of you faggots i just play the game all day and shitpost here between
>>537966607u must be fun at parties
>>537966565how do you even get stats like thisdo you cuck out gun carries out of farm only to buy heal nova and rescue beam
>>537966729you must be a faggot
this might be the most embarrassing stomp I've ever had on meboth other lanes lost before 8 minutes and a melee dynamo absolutely raped this billy to death and made him rq
>>537966385I don't play Mina, you're seething a weak hero got buffs and admitting you can't manage lanes you are a shitter and the only one crying will be you because no matter how much your boogeyman heroes get nerfed you will never rank up beyond Archon>>537966532Any M1 hero can backdoor it's the fault of the team that let it happen and I don't see how you're citing her running past wave as relevant cause clearly lane was pushed in enough for it to not have protection, her ult is not killing a full HP patron with protection kek
>>537966543I would play with you all, I bet you're fun :D
>>537966801I only play Kelvin, Dynamo, Ivy, etc and I defend a walker all game until I get all my good items, then I go around healing my teammates and setting up assists
>>537966831>her ult is not killing a full HP patron with protection kekIt seemed like that was exactly what he was claiming, in which case I'd fucking love to see a replay.
>>537966801The chad kelvin maxing frost grenades just to farm all the camps
What do you do against Mina genuinely? She's impossible to beat in lane and impossible to catch with her 2, slowing hex doesn't last long enough.
>>537966543i would play with people here but everyone seems like a ragetard and nobody has been responsive when I asked to play before. I also use Discord for VC and for some reason that app seems to mindbreak people here so I just don't bother
>>537966979Maxing frost grenades, toxic bullets, titanic magazine and cultist sacrifice. I steal all the enemy's jungle in seconds
>winrate: top 18%>accuracy rating: bottom 5%Life of an Ivy mainI didn't choose the support life... it chose me
Mina wouldn't be such a brat if she got a few strokes from me just saying
>>537966831>>537966952Her ultimate triggers Spirit Burn over and over and over and over again. There are plenty of videos of her killing mid boss in 1 second with her ultimate. https://youtu.be/4XLJht_PLkc?t=901Time stamped. This can be done do a Patron too and this faggot streamer confirms it's not a bug.
>>537966980You make her waste her 2, it has a huge cooldown. Failing that, you focus her teammate. Mina does literally nothing without her 4, you should either be forcing her 2 by harassing her non-stop or focusing her teammate (so Mina's 2 is made useless. Why give her an opportunity to extract value from it?).
>>537967327I wish I could reset those stat trackers because my accuracy is like 54% but I spend a lot of time spraying at walls and shit.
>>537967448>Spirit Burn now procs a 1 second cooldown against non-heroes instead of no cooldownFixed. Next question
>>537967539>I made up my own patch notes because I have no real argument and I'm retardedBTFO. Kneel, nigger.
>>537965732>>537966538Forgot image
>>537966385keep your waves pushed so you don't get ratted nigga
>>537967616I posited a fix and nothing else, not even the guy you're arguing withIt's just ridiculous that it does more damage to buildings/midboss than to people
>>537967448This is a good thing brooltards need to suffer for not managing lanes properly, nice to see a spirit hero actually able to push objectives too>B-BUH SHE SOLO TOOK MY OBJECTIVE CAUSE I WANTED TO DEATHBALL DOWN BLUE NOOOO!!!Dilate, even just 1 defender getting hit by her spirit burn would make it go on CD so she couldn't do that
Someone make the next thread
>>537967327Ivy's gun is much better for accuracy than like Paige and Victor's (good bullet speed, no spread/recoil)
>>537967809Kneel, nigger. BTFO.
Does this mean i'm good
deadlock needs aram
>>537967915Do you FEEL good?
>>537965635wait that shit goes on CD if your channel gets interrupted?always wondered why they don't just press it again after.
>>537968128used to not go on cd, they nerfed it long ago
>>537967448Here's another example. You can delete the patron solo in seconds. 'https://youtu.be/V5KazJ4Gh-E?t=2352Overtuned broken hero. End of discussion. They don't even have EE and t his isn't super late game. She can easily rat a patron without a wave if she sneaks into the enemy base past troops. This general is in huge fucking denial just because they are brainless coomers / gooners playing in wooden tier ranks.
>have 3 rejuv tokens while sieging base>2 enemies dead>team shimmy outside the base not doing objectives because they’re half health>one fucking goes back>another flees in fear Aaaahhhh you stupid cunts.
>>537968364Stop deathballing you are not "high elo" because you are archon btw
>>537968364Damn why are deadlock players so fucking ugly lmao
>>537968441>no argument againlmfaoBTFO yet again. Start kneeling nigger.
>>537967448>>537968364>Spirit bvrn to nuke pve objectives>Focvs lens to nuke retardsFind a flaw in this gameplay pattern.
>squishy hero is capable of doing actual damage>people in /dlg/ have a nuclear meltdownwhat causes this?
>>537967448I was curious so I loaded into a test area and tried to takedown blue walker with her ult. It took like 5 ults (no bonus bats, resistant due to no creeps walker), midboss took 2. Also I'd call that Spirit Burn thing a bug rather than a problem with her ult. So yeah, it's a bug, but you sure as fuck can't backdoor for free even with it. If there are creeps in the base, that's the same as GunGinnis casually walking in and melting the Patron.
>nigger in wood rank gets btfo>has a nigger meltdown and goes full blown denial and gas lightingwhat causes this? kneel
>>537968543>>537968441anon and anon sitting in a tree>k i s s i n g
>>537968630>no bonus batsworthless test
>i'm gayWhat causes this?
>>537968364>She can easily rat a patron without a wave if she sneaks into the enemy base past troops.Do you know what backdoor protection is, retard?>>537968630It's not a bug. You also need to max out the ult to get the most objective damage value
>>537968630The Spirit Burn thing is in the item description. It's not supposed to go on cooldown against NPCs. It is stupid though
>>537968728Maining Seven, Warden, or Drifter
>NOOOOO MINA IS BALANCED AND BUFFS ARE NEEDED>I-IT'S THE ITEM NOT THE HERO P-P-PLS DON'T NERF
They should add a Kappa hero. Complete with the 'yanks your soul literally out of your asshole' gimmick
>>537965953No it doesn't
>Gun hero melts objective>People seethe cry that gun is OP>Spirit hero melts objective>People still seetheDo you guys just want objectives to have double the HP so games last forever
after two weeks of nonstop whining about how useless every mina is, the narrative changes instantly lmao
>>537968630nice video or image you clipped btwnice proof you postednice post you madeare you of an ethnic minority group btw? just asking. no real reason lmao
Funny how I've been telling people Mina is good since day 1, and people been shitting on me with "win rates".And now when she actually got buffed, people are crying about it?What the fuck do you want?
>>537968907Final Patron should definitely have more HP, it's way too easy to melt it
>>537968961>What the fuck do you want?A well paying desk job and a cute loyal hapa gf
>>537968721>>537968761Love Bites gives more bats, it doesn't make bats hit harder. Casting the ult repeatedly with no cooldown is essentially the same as having bonus bats. Unless you expect to be rolling with 200+ bonus bats on your ult, I don't think you're taking down a resistant structure in one ult.Oversight, I suppose I'd call it then? Because it's true the tooltip is specific and accurate, but that is probably not intended for Mina to proc it 85 times in quick succession.
>What the fuck do you want?what makes a retard say things like this?
>>537925052>AI jeet surprised his slop get him banned Stay in your epoch general faggot
wraithniggas have been melting objectives free for ages>crickets from dlg41% winrate hero using their maxed out channeled ult to take down objectives with minion wave>thermonuclear anal melty explosion
>>537968907>so games last foreverYes please.The damage scale is gonna be so fun with drifter if the game is 70 minutes long.
>>537968961You were wrong for claiming she was good they are wrong for seething over her getting buffs, /dlg/ is not one person and you are low IQ, that is all
>>537969124BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO AIM
>>537969021not true because more bats = higher dps = more spirit burn procs
>>537969021>it doesn't make bats hit harderYeah but having a lot of spirit power does.You can definitely nuke walkers and a non-protected Patron with the ult, but... so what? It's literally the only thing the ult is good for anyway
>>537969124>with minion wavenice reach there gaslighter-kunkeep kneeling
>>537969190Not true because more bats does not equal more dps, stupid ass
>>537969014Best I can offer is a dead end job with 6 working days + a single mother of three ready to settle down.
>>537969124This general has been seething over Wraith since day 1, even the patches where she was shit. Where the fuck gave you been? She's probably the most whined about hero here, her only competition is Haze
>>537933990Talon btfo pocket with this one tho
>>537969256>Schizo delusions throwing out the g*slighting term freer than wraithnigga taking a side walkerMeds NOW
>>537969139THE HUNT BEGINS... AND IT NEVER ENDS
>>537969256yes, with a minion wavewith backdoor protection her ult doesn't do anything>>537969190wrong. more bats just extends the duration.
post a clip of you melting even a walker that has protection with minas ult or concede schizo
>>537968919>>53796923175 bats on a resistant patron in pit. I assume you can extrapolate how many bats it would take to actually take it down in one ult.
>>537969519
>Think early game is going pretty well>Something snaps inside the brains of multiple team members and they just die and die and die and die over and over making it impossible to winwhy are they like this
>>537969613Based on that webm I'd say close to 450~ considering the patron's backdoor regen.
Mina but dressed like a nikke girl...please valve...
>>537969792kill yourself gachagooner
>>537969792Live forever gachaking.
>Mina can't kill objectives with backdoor protection>source: my assI didn't even need half of the items I had or half the buffs. >>537969613You have no bats and at late game most have 40-50 and some 70-80 stacks, and you don't even have duration extender. Deceitful poster is deceitful. What can you expect of a nigger. Kneel.
>>537969613Nice, you just BTFO the retards.Now we wait for the goalpost moving.
>CHANGE HERO reworded to SWAP HERO huh
>>537970131towers don't have backdoor protection you absolute retard
mina put me in chastity
>>537970213And that nigger didn't have any real items for an ultimate built Mina. Your point retard?
>>537970131oh my god mina can kill a tier 1 guardian nerf her into the fucking ground right now yoshi
>>537970131>dumbass thinks duration extender affects nox nostra in any wayLMAOnot that anon btw but you just outed yourself as a massive retard
>>537969894Why do sexy women offend you
>>537970253My point is you're talking about backdoor protected objectives when you're showing a video of one without it.Also duration extender doesn't affect the ult.
>>537970131>you don't even have duration extenderWhat do you think that would do?
>>537970131the guy hurling racial slurs like a polfaggot is a retard, wow, what can you expect. kneel.
>>537970251she's the type of woman who will say "okay wear it" because you asked and then she will leave you in a closet. forgetting you while walking for eternity
>>537970273>Mina is actually more broken than you thinkBTFO by your own post LMFAO. Kneel nigger!
well chat, if she has all these items and 76 stacks of love bites, she can kill mid boss as fast as a fed haze/vyper canthats INSANE
>>537970391Why six niggur on other team?
Damn that minafag is a fucking idiot lol
>>537970323it's not about mina, it's about subhuman porn addicts like (you)
Damn that antiminaschizo needs to take her meds.
chat, is this OP?Also really kek how youre forced to bat just to hit the patron with your ult
>>537970472That's new york for you.
>>537970938>forced to batCan't you just use jump dash & ult?I'm pretty sure that works.
+50 bats (reasonable amount late), full build, max level, backdoor protected walker.It was pretty close. Very overpowered, watch out for your pubs>>537970938You can jump+dash and then ult instantly to maintain low altitude
>Mina can't solo the Patron late game that's totally impossible with backdoor protectionfunny how I didn't even do this properly with using the 1st skill between refresher and still managedyeah kneel niggers you deceitful little faggotsthis is also without any golden statuesany buffs from runesjust items and passive spirit gainmost of the items I had were useless because I just used them to level up love bites faster to a normal levelLMFAOBTFO
a gun build on kelvin is faster than these ults
>>537971213>>537971213>>537971213idk who usually makes these threads but I think they're dead
>>537970938lol I forgot Patron gets more health as the game goes by, I do 5500 damage here with 88 bonus bats and barely did more percentage wise than I did taking the earlier clip. I also got Duration Extender instead of Burst Fire, which I am sure helped.
>>537971168>minute 3anon
>>537971168So all I need to do is have 54k souls 4 minutes into the game and have proc'd love bites 36 times, and THEN I can backdoor the patron with my overpowered carry
>gooners are having melties because people don't pay proper (lol) respect to their waifureal SEA hours
>>537909689DoorCHADS stay winning
>>537970131>Those are the """people""" you are arguing with on /vg/ ladies and gents
>>537971771I swear we aren't all like this. I just suck at the game.
