Farm Animal -edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>538024409
Abrams should have his book replaced with a magical can of beans
Is Vindicta easy?
>furry instead of human with a goat headdisgusting
>>538086587Why? Is he mexican-coded or something?
Call me when they fix the abhorrent match making, I shan't be playing till then
fresh doorman copypasta:I didn't get shit on. he doesn't even require fucking skill or IQ. here's exactly what happened>I'm coincidentally fury-trance-silenced on movement assaulting walker under perfect conditions>sees me>ults>sets up door to walker>bells and carts me into it through door (again, no skill)>gets lucky and carts me a second time into walkerthe only luck/skill was the second cart. everything else is cheese
>>538086587>lets see what these beans can do
I Hate the cube...
>>538086186I decided to check, you did nearly 1/3 of your team's total damageThat makes me wonder what other stats you could use to check if a team got carried or not
>>538086737lmao
Did they fuck something upt? Witchmail doesn't proc in testing
:3
>>538086737haha wouldn't it be funny if instead of the book lifting him into the air for seismic impact he had a really big fart and landed on his bum
balanced ult
>Up against a mostly tanktard comp>Have to just accept they're basically unkillable until I get spirit burn>They can take anything on the map they wantThis shit is so miserable
>>538086597no, especially since her only viable build got nerfed due to tether changeshitreg for her ult can feel extremely in consistent and it's not even that much damage unless you're dumping spirit items into her and getting lucky with headshot bonus damage since headshot reg for it is even worseshe's still strong, but "easy" she is not
>>538086725me when I turn off my ability to do anything but stat check like a retard because i'm a retarded m1 monkey with no thought process and then someone runs up to me when I can't run away or use spells and uses a spell on me then blame the character for being broken
https://files.catbox.moe/2u8149.pngOkay, Valve has put you in charge of designing a female werewolf character. Which bodysize do you go with?
>>538086725door'd
>>538086884>all of sapphire is alive>left to take the rejuv with yellow lane pushed into their fucking base
>>538086845HOW are you niggas getting restricted?i've said "put a shell into your grey matter" "put a shotgun into your mouth" "put a bullet into your brain" and many more and I haven't caught a coms ban yet.are you saying all of this in text chat?
>>538086863where the fuck was their entire team
>>538087025paige-sized human form to XL bigger than abrams during ult transformation
>>538087176I called Yamato as asian slur each time she killed me
>>538087025paige sizethe perfect heighti have no other ideas, but she should come up to the bottom of abrams rib cage at maximum
>>538086884how do I ult without flying into the skybox
>>538086725You can check out any time you likeBut you can never leave
>>538087025XXL, I need my bitches BIG. big enough to pick me up by the back of the shirt with one hand.source?
>>538086587>these beans are gonna give them more than they bargained for.
Drifting into 15+ deaths every game #based
>place door near our walker>chase enemy pocket>catch him mid animation as he ROLLS into a wall by placing a door>final animation is him rolling into a walker as I close the door.
Apparently you can edit files to increase your FOV.How are they gonna stop people from abusing this?
>>538087025She WILL transform into a literal normal-sized wolf by using a magical wolf pelt like real historical lycanthropes, and you WILL enjoy it.
How does drifter isolation work? It seems to go on even when they're near teammates. Is it like a duration thing if they're ever alone?
>>538087706how will this help?
>>538087724Why's bro look so happy?
>>538087854Youre asking how an increase in FOV is going to help you in a competitive multiplayer game?
>>538087626This never happened
>>538087137happens, they were behind a long time and had to rush mid when they got the chance>>538087331jump+dash+ult instantly
>>538087706>How are they gonna stop people from abusing this?by just making the command do nothing, retard? it's not that hard.also, who gives a shit? the fuck does more FOV in a MOBA matter? this isn't a twitch shooter (and even in those having low FOV is competitively better btw LMFAO)
>>538087706no one tell him about widescreen monitors
>>538088094what? next you're gonna tell me having 144hz is better than 60? heh, fat chance bud...
>>538087957in a third person moba? yes
>>538087706what the hellthey changed the hideout enemy hero to abrams on a friday afternoonwhat a strange change
>>538088276It's for his can of beans rework.
I’m cooking up an ult max infernus build bros. How much will I be flamed rushing lightning scroll
>finally get to play Haze again and stomp the everloving shit out of the enemy team>next match get queued with two people in my team who literally downloaded the game today and loseat least try to pretend its not rigged, Vale
The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>>538088432get knockdown first so you can actually someone with it
Bros...I keep uninstalling and crawling backValve really has their hooks in me
>>538088276because seven has crit reduction
Its over...
>>538089557>35 matchesnigga who cares
>>538086725You silenced yourself with Doorman coming for your ass?
>>538089904do you honestly think Haze players have object permanence?
We need a fiery red Ixian woman
>>538086718why do i have a feeling that you are a minagooner
>>538088791Not a bad suggestion I was thinking cultist for the range buff knockdown also gives ability range too
>>538088432you retards will do anything but actually go a useful build, huh
How should I play 6v6 teamfights as drifter? I get the early and mid game now but no clue if I'm meant to initiate with ult or wait for a bit to pick off low targets.Also please respond how this shit works >>538087839
>>538090468I despise Mina. All Mina players are tranniesI play Lash, Mo and Billy mostly (aimlet)
>>538090923if you don't get fed, you're an ultbot.
>>538090923>How should I play 6v6 teamfights as drifter?splitpush instead.
>>538090954Fuck I miss when lash could actually kill people with his gun
>its another drifter solo carry episodecmon valve you guys cant be serious with this
I genuinely get a little mad when I hear paige voicelinesI truly despise this character with my entire being.in all of my years of gaming I have never had such utter contempt for a character before.
>>538091089>he didn't follow the buddy system
>>538090923sneak around behind and kill retreaters
>>538090923even after a teammate within range of an enemy the isolation status stays for a bit. it doesn't instantly go. The range is 25m
damn mina really is dogshit
Why is Mirage yelling all the time?>THEY KILLED SHIV!!>AAAAHHHHHH>CONJURING SCARABS!!
>>538091194i did my wraith and seven both going 2-10 didnt
>>538091291THEY KILLED VYPERFOR THE DJIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNI WILL NOT FAIL NASHALA
>>538091291FOR THE DJINNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>538091291he wants his waifu to notice him
mirage posting makes me want to play himthe instant they replace scarabs with a cooler ability I'm moving to wyoming
>>538083696>>538083907I always read these in the character's voicesIt adds to the charm
>>538091485>mirage posting makes me want to play himhe's one of the most mind numbing characters in the game.at least there is the "woohoo something is happening" moment with Warden ultMirage is just stat checking people with bodyshots for the entire game.
>>538091485honestly his whole kit needs a rework i like him but its all so bad
>>538091075I'm surprised they aren't making punch Lash a thing since he has a big boxing glove
>>538091602his gun modifier is cool
>>538091291this shit is horrible man your boss asked you to fight 6 weirdos that dont die while you get shot for half a hourid scream too
>>538091614I have unironically secured a lot of kills with some heavy melees right off a dive kick. Getting some melee modifiers isn't the worst thing
>>538091602I wish they did more with the Djinn thing
>>538091614Great idea, we'll nerf the shit out of ground strike damage and make it scale with melee
>>538091681yea but it falls off really fast and at least imo neither a full gun or spirit build really make it all that great
>>538091769change his ult to Wish>make a wish>anything could happen
>>538091818>Mirage gets a level 9 spell for freefuck you, faggot.
>>538091291Arab people are angry cause it's hot where they live
>>538091291NASHALAHELP
>>538091818>t3: becomes a charge ability with three charges
Tree hero?President hero?Fireman hero?Santa hero?Fly hero?Garbage hero?Weather hero?REAL alien hero?Miner hero?Kung-fu hero?Illusion hero?a talking dog hero?Druid hero?Succubus hero? Elf hero?Construction hero?Lawn gnome hero?Cyclops hero?Wizard hero?Spider hero?Singing hero?Lycanthrope hero?Invoker hero?Chef hero?Sorcerer hero?Animal tamer hero?Gorilla hero?
>>538091291It's even funnier with how calm and polite he is in his regular dialogue
mina went from being a joke to a menace in 1 patch. She might be overtuned now.
>>538092285nigga it's occult NOIRcease your fantasy ideaguying>invokerexception for this of course
>>538091818Smite actually has something like this with AladdinDuring the entire game he has three wishes he can use at any time but after all 3 are spent he can't use anymoreHe can make a wish to: gain a chunk of gold, instantly revive, and reset all of his ability cooldowns
>>538090398That's gonna be Cadence
>>538092421>NOIRViscous?Kelvin?Paige?Billy?Mo and Krill?Ivy?
This game badly need wards.Every game is just a succession of deathball, which can only be counter with a hypercarry pushing a lane at the speed of light.
>>538087025Somewhere between M and LAbrams height would be just fine for a werewolf
>>538092421okay but i still expect that fellow weeb icefrog to add in omnislash
>>538092604if you think paige isn't occult noir then you're genre illiterate urban supernatural stories always have main characters just like paige
>>5380917691 - is now a wave like weavers beetles in dota can buy items to make it wider and go longerstill saps hp but also a stacking bleed at higher tiers. need to use stam bar by jumping/rolling to remove beetles2 - tornado goes but leaves mirage behind now it blinds reducing hit chance at 5 it can lift people 3 - eh keep it best part of kit rn4 - instead of teleporting mirage he gives nashala to an ally she will shield this ally and give them the ability to do a weaker version of djinns markat max rank the target recieves a dust shroud that acts as a free return fire
>>538092887>nothing for the others
>>538093013mo and krill are thugsivy is gothic because she's a gargoyle and gothic is like the grand father of noir>viscous >kelvinunfinished meme characters>billyanachronistic meme mistake
Why do I never feel strong aside from 30minutes +? Is this normal? After I hit that point and have several 6k items I can actually chase people down and fucking delete them within a few seconds but before that I have to struggle to fight people for 20 seconds
>played 130 hours of deadlock in the past 2 weeksjesus fuck. and like 95% Mina
>>538091291Wouldn't you be yelling if you had to deal with this shit?
>>538092607wards will completely break this game since there is no fog of war, same reason why you don't have a free cam while being dead unlike in other mobas
>>538090398
>>538093290>not feeling strong the minute the game startsngmi
>>538091291Honestly I like playing Mirage just for this even if he's boring and not that goodAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
>>538093290because you're playing Ivy
Fat fuck is pretty fun when your team actually plays together
i want to KISS MINA WHILE WE WATCH SCARY MOVIE 3
>Enemy doorman>Die once in lane>Get tilted>Ult me (Warden) & camp me with geist>Both get killed by me and vindicta instead>Quit the gameI love kicking sore loser's ass in this game.It's so fucking fun.
How mandatory is kinetic dash on drifter
>>538091291It's funny how his 1 have so little impact visually and he yells like he's throwing out a genkidama.
holy fuck your stats go up when you get boons???? How long has that been a thing??
>>538093827You write like a retard.
how are you supposed to melee when parry is instant and even whiff still takes less time than heavy melee
>>538093893since the start
what does file format mean
>>538093917Maybe you need to learn to read.How are you emerifats only know 1 language but still sucks at it?
>>538093917Wdym? He loves kicking sore loser-is ass
>>538094020it's called throwing in mix-ups. don't just lean on the heavy punch. get close, don't punch, but act like you want to punch. the second they parry, you rev up a heavy punch. you can also rev up a punch and then swing sideways to avoid the parry. or just throw in light jabs in between gunfire.
>>538092285>Tree hero?paige>President hero?Wraith>Fireman hero?Infernus>Santa hero?Dynamo>Fly hero?Vindicta>Garbage hero?Mina>Weather hero?Victor>REAL alien hero?Yamato (illegal)>Miner hero?Bebop>Kung-fu hero?Seven>Illusion hero?Raven (rip)>a talking dog hero?Holliday (bitch with 11 divorces)>Druid hero?Kelvin>Succubus hero?Mcginnis>Elf hero?Paradox>Construction hero?Doorman>Lawn gnome hero?Fathom (rip)>Cyclops hero?Viscous>Wizard hero?Lash>Spider hero?Vyper>Singing hero?Warden (death scream)>Lycanthrope hero?Calico>Invoker hero?Gray Talon>Chef hero?Abrams>Sorcerer hero?Ivy>Animal tamer hero?Trapper (rip)>Gorilla hero?Billy
>>538094098its an innuendo for pdf file which its self is an innuendo for pedophile.
I wish I played Dynamo but I really want the games to not rely on me so much.
>>538087968if fucking REPLAYS weren't dog shit, i would have webm of that poor fellow as he stared back at me through the door as it closed on him.
>>538095174use steam recording nigga
I cant stand passive teammates that when the game gets hard they just sit in the jungle and let the rest of their team get raped and give up walkers and shit too. Like gee thanks, now you've almost caught up to us but have given the enemy like 20k soul lead by refusing to help your team. They need a surrender button so these quitters dont take 30 mins of your time and you can just quit at 15
>>538095635Is steam recording good?
>>538095703you can't play aggro when behind with some comps
>>538095784very. I run a 2-hour buffer, I can instantly replay what happened in the steam overlay and quickly export clips if needed after the matchesjust takes some disk space
I feel so lost and so retarded playing this game even with thousands of games of Dota. I don't know how to gank, how to quickly get around without tp scrolls, and feel like I'm not picking up the items at all, like I generally follow builds but couldn't put one together myself.
>>538094965his entire existence is revolves around his Ultimate. youre the best hound dog for your team when it's off CD. 3 minutes and 50 seconds(?), it should always be used when READY to use. Otherwise, youre wasting your time and everyone elses, even the enemy team. you should be using your ult every 4 minutes. Not a joke. With Trans Cooldown, it becomes 2 minutes and 40 seconds. The average person will hold on to it for their "big moment" ult but there is no fucking point, the moment will come when it arrives. The ult should be used for 1-3 people to just straight up kill someone every 4/3 minutes. its insane when you think about it.anyone with a ultimate with a ""long"" cooldown should be doing the exact same thing. Seven is probably the only example because everyone's ultimate is sub 115 seconds. Hell, anyone's ultimate off cooldown should be used for the exact reason, to use it. period.
>>538095784steam recording tags events in game and you can hotkey to clip last x amount of time but I don't even use that because it's so fast to seek to your event, set up a clip, and export
>>538096206Paige's ult has a 180 second cooldown
>>538096273i forgot her but i also expect in the future for it to be 108 seconds
Mcginnis is so fucking strong man.>team is fighting at urn>take the opportunity to solo midboss>enemy team hears this>the fight slowly moves towards midboss>come out with three rejuvs>win the fight>end gameHonstly, might've find the wife.
Victor seems like the only character in the game with literal required items
fuck this overbuffed mina
>>538096537tip from an ascendant mcg player: she shits on mediocre players but she gets tronced by any team with the brainpower to track her locaiton at all timesso she ends up being a shitstomper at low rank, and a supercomputer at high rank,but then kind of garbage at midrank where your team is probably too retarded to play around your strengths as a slow fuck
i turret mcginnis viable in low elo if i just want my enemy to be miserable
It seems like everyone ends up with 3-4 health bars of HP and I don't feel like my damage keeps up. Other than toxic bullets, are there items to deal with this?
>>538097543anything is viable at low elo if you actually understand the strengths and weaknesses of itbut specifically yeah turret build is solid with escalating and T3 med spec/range, but u also gotta consider the enemy comp and how many escape buttons they have innate to their kits
What are the chances of this game getting a server browser? They're my favorite aspect of valve games and I dont think dota has one.
>lose 3 matches>maybe it's my build>lose another 2 matches>maybe it's my mindset>lose another 2 matches
>>538097543people don't shoot her turrets in shitlo and they are also hilariously afraid of attacking you even though ginnis is super easy to kill and harass in lane.they'll just let you mow down their turret because they are afraid of your gun.
>>538097836>Maybe it's the dogshit matchmaking
I think they should keep all of the Victor nerfs so far except revert the change to his aura and bring it back to 80% self damage so you can actually use it in the laning phase without shitting yourself.
>>538097764Probably some form of browser just to make organised 6v6's easier. But if you're talking about the community aspect of dedicated servers like in TF2/CS, those are long gone anon...
Gentlemen, how do we fix the black woman of unoriginality?
>>538098401Marriage
depressed knowing we'll never have community server 16v16 deadlock or surfmaps or zombies where all the zombies are victor with no gun...
>>538098472Oh no what a shame that is*turns around and squats on your post, then takes a big steamy dump on it*
who got nerfed?
>winning game>1 retard runs into their base alone and baits the rest of us into a 5v6>boss was up>start losing game
>>538098782>1 smart guy pushed the base to win the game while the other 5 retards were busy brawling
>>538098968>infernus charges in again while we were doing boss >lose game
Do replays show chat messages? Want to screenshot an angry Drifter.
>kill a mina player>ragdolls in a wierd pose>kek>mina think im looking under her skirthow do i beat the allegations guys ?
>>538099347yes they do now post it anon
>>538100147>lash playerOwn it.
>oh, I'll help my teammate on york, he's getting 1v2'd>walk in and immediately dieHow do I stop doing this without being a complete drain on my team who does nothing
matchmaking moment>amber higher rated
>>538100292turn around? get off early? make more than a single choice? multiple options and outcomes you can think of to layer on top of the one you formed in your brain
>>538100394bro youre telling me they only took 1 guardian?
>>538091291FOR THE DJIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! *Shoots you*
>>538100425But if I'm not there quick my teammate is almost certainly going to dieIs the right call to let that happen and focus on stalling them, despite it being 1v2 for me as wellThis isn't a rhetorical question, I don't play MOBAs and have no macro game sense
I can't even get to the troopers without getting killed by Drifter and my teammates are all jungling so I can't follow them, I have a 5k soul disadvantage over my next-weakest teammate
Can you still spectate games? I loved watching them to learn better play
>play paradox>two bombs spam>enemies just move away>average damage dealt
>>538086725>What if paradox but absolutely fucking braindead and no skill?
yea I think victor got overnerfed, he's basically useless unless he farms an early infuser
i've been buying CC and spirit items and ivy and going 2/4/26 or something every match and i just keep fucking winning games this wayi just fly in and press all buttons and rape them with a million crowd control effects and debuffs and even the most retard mouthbreathing retard can click on the hero with 1/4th HP who is stuck in place to finish them off so i just win every teamfight for my team and even bail out retarded overextending carries by throwing myself into the enemy team so they can fleerat game is decent too because i'm just hard to killi finally cracked the code, the team with the dedicated CC guy wins 80% of the time and no one ever builds this in my rank so i'm just collecting free Ws
where is kilowatt?
>>538100147nice pixel slop FAGGOT
>>538098685victor and drifter are broken so probably mirage again
Who benefits the most from Echo Shard?inb4: Viscous
>>538102007seven for stun build
hi can they fix the options menu so I can bind specific items like in dota.thanks, Anonymous.
>>538102007bepop echoing bomb is a classicdoorman echo sharding cart is goodivy echo sharding stone form is decent
>>538091291I downloaded the mirage constant yelling mod someone linked in a previous thread but it seemed to be broken :(
>>538101712took em out
>OHHHHH FFFFUCCCCKKKK I ABSOLUTELY CANT DO ANYTHING UNTIL I FINISH [JUNGLE RELATED ACTIVITY] I JUST CAAAANNTTT IM GOING TO HAVE TO LET THOSE TWO WALKERS GET DESTROYED BECAUSE I ALREADY STARTED [JUNGLE ACTIVITY] AND I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT INTERRUPT THIS TO GO PLAY DEFENSE OOOHHH NOOOO
>My ult keeps autocancelling as LashI love terrible bugs that break your game
>>538103026It's frustrating when they choose to spend like 3 minutes doing a tier 3 camp instead of clearing the wave that is about to hit the walker right next to them
>>538103026>getting jumped by a drifter 5 ft away from our viscous in lane>theres not even a creep wave pushed up to him>hes just mindlessly walking with our own creep wave>frantically ping my position>die>'oh sorry bro' how do these faggots get out of initiate
Please, how do I come back from a soul deficit when my lanes are being ran-down by powerful 1v1 classes like Drifter, I feel like anywhere I go I'm going to die and fall even further behind
>be Paradox>shit slow spirit>shit gun>dumb ultimate How do I win?
>>538103180the gods honest answer is you play hyper hyper paranoid and focus on breaking safe boxes and safe camps, and you let lanes push a little bit before clearing themif your team isnt retarded you will get a comeback urn and a punish kill or two and then even out in the midgameif your team is retarded then none of this matters because someone is going to eat all the farm and leave you broke and then you'll always be down 1-2 at all times and then lose in slow motion
once players figure out wave management it's genuinely going to be hellish to fall behind
>valve simplifies the item shop>one quarter of all items are contextual counterpick slop>one quarter is mandatory powerspike slop>one quarter is insanely fun shit that you can never justify buying because it isn't optimal>one quarter is some niche bullshit you never buybravo!
>>538103556I don't think it'll be catastrophic thanks to boxes but yeah it'll be pretty bad
>>538103689Or you could buy the fun shit because you're not good enough to go pro and it doesn't matter if you win or not except in your own head.
>>538103824
>play paige>made some friendsummm.. deadtards?
there is no way anyone thought holliday was a well designed character right?
>>538104035ivybros i'm... i'm sorry, i will leave her for Paige
>>538104201THROWING A BARRELYOU'RE COMING WITH ME
how u get hero labs? wanna try the unreleased characters
>>538104035Those friends expect nudies every other week. You better be cute or they unfriend/ignore your invites.
i have grown irrationally racist against mina players.watching them just ult you out of nowhere to try and get a cheap kill is so stupid.
>>538104035>hype up a paige >he adds me after the game>asks if I want to get in a discord call togetherbut why just use the fucking games voip.
>>538104286They removed it in the August patch
>>538104461ERPing in team voice chat is awkward
>rush coldfront>steal small camp in front of enemy as soon as it spawns>ignores jungle for the rest of the game*cracks open bear*Ahh, feels good to be a krillionaire.
>playing paige>ally refuses to shoot soul orbs>enemy denies all of themim never playing this hero ever again just because of that
>>538086514where do i find up to date builds? this website for example https://deadlocktracker.gg/builds/seven/250947-metro-shock-seven-new-patch-twitch-tv-metro has icons outright bugged
I've never had a game where I've been so disappointed in my team. No macro sense.
Every time enemy team has a warden and infernus they are an M1 Hyper Carry.Every time I have a warden and infernus they are an elo terrorist hyper feed.
>>538104938buy monster rounds and melee lifesteal to punch troopers, use your shield if people try and shoot you while doing it.
Love playin Vyper, but lost the teammate lottery three times in a row. I didn't play well but the enemy team was just too grouped up that I don't think I could have carried this even if I was good. Our Lash/Abrams just fuckin left whenever I'd show up to try to help them. And every Doorman I've ever had on my team has no idea what his buttons do. I think I was in a fight at the same time as Vindicta like twice.
>female samurai>female sheriff>female mechanic>female assassin>female sniper>female mob
>>538102343I like doing Echo Punch for BebopNot because it's really good or anythingBut grappling, punching, grappling again, punching again, then grappling a third time does some serious mental damage to your target
>>538105303>enemy team constantly grouped whenever there's an objective or teamfight happening>my team constnatly farming in the ass end of nowhere and not even pushing waveswhy me
>>538105347you got your gay furrybait quit crying
GOOD FUCK HOLLIDAY THIS CHARACTER IS SOOOO FUCKING RETARDEDDDDD
>>538105042Speak of, does the solo queue console command still work?
>>538105347take vindicta away from me and I'll fucking kill you
>>538103824>buy the fun shit>shoot peanuts all game and get anally raped>but its okay because i got to jump around a lot
>60 minutes into game>geist had 1 green item, restorative shot and otherwise full purple>keeps dying before being able to swap health with anyone>"get yourself a warp stone Geist">"What's that?">i explained what it was and she said oh thanks and then bought it so i think she was genuineget me out
Is Abrams dead? He never gets picked anymore, and why would he when Victor exists
>>538105791>Tank with CC>Tank with no CC
>>538104201she was probably a sensible hero in the neon prime era where the sightlines were so big that she was a more telegraphed hero but now we're a year into deadlock and she can just batter you with barrels from any angle and range in the universe and if you try to punish her she jumps around fifty buildings using a single bounce pad
>>538105791Abrams has never dipped below 50% winrate and is usually top 5 or top 10 heroes at worst in every elo
I am "eye with a book below it" V, what rank is that.
how do i play abrams i need more braindead characters i can stomp with
How do I know what to build
>>538106009click on your profile and click skill rating newcutie
wtf /dlg/ told me all these heroes were weak aside from drifter and seven
Anyone have a problem with buttons just stopping working randomly ,especially on respawn
>Half of enemy team dead rest low >I call out to group together and push their base and hit their weakened patron.>me and lash go in to start finishing off the patron.> get it real low but ulted by dinamo and then killed off by mina(who are the only ones not respawn.>wonder where the fuck my team were when i said to push and end.>they finish us off and take our base and finish our patron as a unit>watch replay to figure out what the fuck happened>My face when I see warden running urn. vendicta inside the enemy spawn and grey talon standing outside of the patron area shooting it doing no dmg and Lady guist pushing yellow.>They now decide to enter the patron area one by one after the rest of the enemy team has respawn and get killed one by one.>we loseI just lose all motivation to play when I see teammates like this
>>538106183abrams is the cheat code of deadlock>piss easy, skill floor incredibly low>impactful even when behind
>>538106183drifter needs to be removed from the game
>>538106667Every time I've been shoved into an Alchemist match at least half the players don't understand what heroes are capable of and have no idea what items they should be buying so Initiate must be a true hellscape.
>>538106512The other day my blue lane was so new to the game they thought their enemy laners were cheaters because they were parrying puddle punch and accused them of having autoparry, their enemy laners were Eternus players. Only ones in the ritualist lobby I was in. Matchmaking is so absurdly fucked I don't even get mad at people anymore, I don't know how Valve seems to think shit is ok.
Is this a desirable rank distribution for a multiplayer game?
>>538091291I WILL NOTFAAALALAAAAHSHAAAAHAAALAH
>>53810686990% of the playerbase is below Archon and people will spit venom at you if you dare suggest the ranks / matchmaking is fucked
>>538101659what do you do against victor?
>>538107049don't be near him
another game thrown because the retard haze went full spirit (and we already had mina, so no gun carry)
>>538106869People told me I was in bottom 5% for being in alchemist, what the hell am I actually passable
Valve should rethink about this character design. She is not attractive.
>>538106869is tracklock even accurate? i remember all the stat tracking sites got obliterated when valve changed some API stuff that made it hard to get match data.
>>538104035Best way to get people to like you, Support Viscous or Paige. Ivy too.Cube people, apply shields, fly people out, Rescue Beam them. Works every time.
>>538107410alchemist players are absolute dogshit at the game. Anyone below Archon is barely functional
>>538104035Did gun Paige die off or what. You only make friends if you play like a tranny.
>>538107421I dunno, I find her the most attractive of the bunch, but who do you think looks better?
>>538105347All basedAll sexoYou already have homo characters to lust after, let the straights have something
>>538104035I want to fuck this anon
is it normal for nobody to even bother with the big neutral camps until like 18 minutes?feels like most characters waste their time because they aren't strong enough to farm them quickly.
>>538107421Anon you can just say you're homosexual, it's fine
>>538106869I think they're doing this on purpose, idk. I was phantom 4 when ranked was introduced until I stopped playing. Since I started up again I probably have 200 matches and ranking up is EXTREMELY slow. I've been sitting on ritualist 6 for like a week now even though I am winning the majority of matches and it tells me the average ranks of the match are a full rank above that.
>>538106869ranking up is so fucking slow that I'm rolling most of my games and still only alchemist 3I think I'm going to die of old age before I hit Emissary just because of how slow it is
>>538106183Where is Victor? Thought he was OP.
Fuck Drifter. His kit is fucking gay
>>538107421More evidence of Paige being average looking.
>>538106072PLEASE HELP
Toxic bullets on drifter: y/n?
Valve should've given Paige a pair of animal ears and a tail.
>>538108797Shit taste
What items should I go for if I want to play like an absolute rat that split pushes and runs away like a bitch?
Valve should've given Abrams a pair of giant balls and a cock.
>>538108993magic carpet
Sinclair is so oppressive in lane it's not even funny
>>538097543Yes, especially with stacked debuffs and EE. Honestly not a bad idea to focus turret mcginnis when you start tovlearn optimal locations and what makes them optimal for that situation. But yeah, low ELO is basically a guaranteed win if you have enough farm because that shit becomes Helms Deep.>>538096537I have noticed that this starts more around Arcanist. It's not so bad, but I have had silent teammates that won't listen when I tell them they're rushing too far ahead in the fight and I'm either getting spit roasted in the backline, or am just getting to the fight as they're dying. People who use comms will react at least and understand.>>538101659I've done this while losing just to spite the enemy team. >>538105875>can still charge people into your walkers and guardians>one of the best counter initiatorsPlus express shot gun meme is fun>>538107421The design isn't bad but it's really not in the spirit of the game. She looks so out of place next to seven or haze.
>>538109032God taste
>>538108993depends on the herovyper only needs debuff remover to basically slide away from 5+ enemieseveryone else can use majestic leap or magic carpet to calmy fly away the millisecond a defense shows up
>>538108993doorman and viscous have multiple "fuck off we aren't fighting now" buttons
>>538103556>wave managementQRD?
Here's your enemy drifterAny questions?Fuck this fucking faggot so much. I hate infinite scaling
Valve should add a hero with a fox motif to deadlock.
>>538107664But if 90% of the playerbase is dogshit then being dogshit isn't that bad statistically, isn't it?
>>538105675how many hours into the game am I expected to know what every single shop item does? so far this game feels like nothing but one big textbook-sized knowledge check
>>538109608Billy's Japanese girlfriend with a fox head and no tail
Closing out games is a lot harder in deadlock compared to Doto/League. The design of the stronghold is so heavily skewed towards defense that even with a huge lead the defenders can still fuck you all up and turn the game around.
I LOVE IMPOSSIBLE GAMES I LOVE IMPOSSIBLE GAMES I LOVE IMPOSSIBLE GAMES I LOVE IMPOSSIBLE GAMES
>>538109814The design of base in League is actually in favor of attackers. Don't know if rito is aware of that.
>All the top tier heroes this patch are ones with teamfight winning ults or characters that can LMB objectives to death very quickly/safely (or both)>Most of the bottom tier heroes have bad ults and don't have good gun scalingIs this something that should be fixed? I know it's impossible for them to get everyone at a perfect 50:50 W/L ratio, but if I've got a Lash and Calico on my team and both get destroyed in lane, the Calico is going to be pretty useless, but Lash can always be threatening in a teamfight by pressing 4
>>538109726I'd rather have fox legs and tail (innate 4.5 sprint speed with spirit scaling).
>>538110223Did you sort by all ranks? Wtf is this garbage list?
>>538110115Explain.
>>538110223>mina can ult objectives to death>d tierwhat does it mean
>>538110248Just a fox, full-bodied and quadrupedal, with a human head, to be the opposite of Billy
>It's another your entire team tries to brute force Broadway and all die like dogs to a counter attack episode
>drifter on me>dynamo ult him long enough for teammates to arrive and kill him
>team is so fucking dogshit at pushing lanes youre forced to suicide down all the guardians and 2 walkers
So, best case scenario lore wise to win and summon the Patron?Probably something along the lines of Paige, Victor, Viscous, Ivy, Dynamo, Warden? That is assuming everyone gets their wish granted BEFORE Warden does whatever it is in order to destroy the summoned Patron. Maybe Kelvin or Holliday could replace someone
>Look at map and see our Drifter getting ganged up on by 3 people>Rush to him and even used the zip line boost>By the time I arrived he already killed everyone and made it in time to get 1 whole assist for mere existingI thought he got nerfed? The fuck is this?
>>538110223>Vindicta low WR>Nerf her>Worst WR in the gameMake u tink
>>538109814it's fine because defenders will be retards and fight outside their base anyways.
>>538110416No high ground.No flanking path for defenders. All exits are narrow.
>>538111628Huh, that makes a lot of sense really.
>>538110223Vindicta is an IQ gate for niggers who think you should build gun when you're meant to be using tesla, crippling hs, inhibitor, alch fire, etc to shred resists and healing in every team fight
>>538103556you can't deny so it's impossible to freeze waves it's just a waste of time to sit around
>push troopers to make space so i can farm>someone tries to all in my tower>i kill them>push troopers to make space so i can farm>someone pushes into my tower and tries to all-in on it>i kill them>repeat SIX (6) times>i now have 8 kills and all i wanted to do was farm neutrals
>rush veil walker on bebop>enemy heroes are afraid of stepping out from their tower because of me>I just run under tower to stick them anyway>easily win the lane out of fear tactics>do the same shit to the other two lanes and they crumble really fast just because the bomb sticks are pissing them off>hooking people from total invisibility>getting insane map controlthis is now my core bebop item. It's too fucking funny
Feeding drifter is too good
I had a dream about playing Deadlock, i was playing Holiday and i was constantly whiffing barrelsi never even played the hero
>>538112394victor more based than i thought
I WANT DRIFTER REMOVED I DONT GIVE A SHIT IF HE HAS COUNTER ITEMS HES SUCH A FUCKING CANCER ON THE GAME LIKE SHIV WAS PRE NERFS
how do i wardenit feels like i don't get to do much until the brawling phase, at which point i press 4 and hold W until one side wins
>>538113465thats it thats all you have to do with warden have fun hitting eternus as long as you dont go full retard in lane
>>538113465Buy slowing hex and laugh as they get caught by your 3 every time
>>538110651>it's another your team never stops fighting for 28 entire minutes, even though they've lost every single teamfight and they've ignored four comeback urns and multiple farm opportunities
Fat ass Nutty Professor too big for the door
For anyone that is retarded enough to want to try gun Doorman long range feels REALLY good on him
>>538107421this about paradox
>First game as Lash>Was an uphill struggle the whole time but just couldn't bring it backHonestly a very fun match all in allI don't think I quite "get" Lash yet besides go as high up as possible for your 1 whenever it's off CD but he's fun
>>538086725Doorman should have a pronounced chin
>>538106869oh this is why every game im in feels like 6 randoms vs seal team fucking 6
>>538086514>come in with positive mindset>die less>refuse to blame other people on my team>look at things pragmatically>realize that their styles of engagement do not line up with mine>even make the conscious decision to decidedly NOT go into an engagement even though i PROBABLY (this is why i die) could win>start winning streak and everyone enjoys my companyi think the only real toxicity is the one that we create inside ourselves
>>538115136Same except I just mute everyone at the start and do my own thing
>>538115297you can turn off voice in the settings but you're gonna be stuck in seeker with that attitude
i have a harder time getting bebop than i do victor
>queue for match>nobody communicates or works together, complete blowout>queue for another match>nobody communicates or works together, complete blowout>queue for another match>team communicates and work together, complete blowout (victory)>queue for match>nobody communicates or works together, complete blowout>queue for match>nobody communicates or works together, complete blowout
>>538116792too bad you can never find those ppl again and continue playing with them
i hope they stop adding cute females to this gametheir hitboxes and heads are too small so it's annoying to fight them.
Lobby?
>>538117018We struggled to make a lobby at peak hours right when Victor was released. You won't be able to fill up a lobby until next major patch 8 months from now.
>>538117263sad, I tire of ruskies on my team
What's the point of Mirage now that Mina does the same sort of thing but with bigger/faster damage proc?
>>538117539he can get reworked his entire kit is a mishmash of random shit
>>538117539isn't he less of a glasscannon?
Just a quick sanity check since I haven't really played in months: can you still parry people trying to punch rejuv? I tried that last game and just fucking failed completely and I'm really not sure why.
vampire brat!
>>538118381Cheepmunk
Paige should have had librarian lolita attire leaning into gothlic lolita styleBilly's look should give off European vibeVictor, Drifter, Doorman are OKSomething's wrong with Mina's face. Is it because she's asian or I am seeing things?
what the fuck is going on w/ this game? is the future bright? valve still isnt marketing it, so i guess its a way off yet.
The new characters are so much better designed than the old ones. The quality difference is instantly noticeable. I've stopped playing when they had added Shiv and even he feels outdated.
>>538118940also how big are mechanics/aim? are there some no-aim retard friendly chars?
when are they nerfing victor into unplayability, i'm already tired of this overturned nigger
>>538118848Mina's model and animations are the most unfinished out of the new ones, she will likely get entire passover eventually. Paige/Billy on the other hand come across as final.
>>538119138Dynamo and Kelvin have AOE abilities. Aim matters a bit for everyone at the start during the laning phase but tends to dissipate for some champs later on. You need an invite btw?
>>538119138paige is the most retard friendly hero if you play her with all the support items but unless you build full spirit (magic damage) items and somehow also manage to not die while doing so she is a fairly low impact hero.
>>538119142the recent nerf already makes him kinda suck, you still need to actively counter him with items though.
>build mainly utility and tank items>top damage as drifternot even joking, my only damage item was kinetic and backstab
>>538119343how does having one of the best early game guns and still being unkillable at 30k souls make him kinda suck
>see enemy shooting trooper>jump up in the air to block the soul with my body and deny it>enemies get so mad that they watched me do that that they decide to dash into me to fight>they both die in the fightwhat an absolute knee-slapper.
>>538119138Abrams, paige, dynamo, mo and krill, mcginnis
>>538119428idk man i've stopped having trouble with him. his laning phase isn't really all that great either, you have to be an idiot to let him keep shooting you without you shooting back and his damage is pretty shit so you always come out on top of that trade.but i buy toxic bullets and all 3 slowing items every game.
There are too many useless heroes bros, like Yamato, Paradox, Wraith, Shiv - they're utter shit now. You can't make damage with them, your best bet would be slowing support or some another lame shit
I pick up the Urn and drop him immediately just so I can hear him seethe about it. His voice lines are so hilarious.
>>538119270gonna second this that even her gun build is pretty easy to play, since the projectile is pretty big and you're often using split shot, so at that point you're less concerned with sick headshots and more worried about area denial
Never have I played a character in a game that just "clicks" like McGinnis. I've played many support characters in various games and they feel limited in their utility, but this gal just has the whole kit!
>>538120259You're just LEAVING me here, anon!?
>>538119857and what elo are you, because victor's gun + battery outdamages most heroes if the victor can aim semi-comptently
You guys won.I wrote this post on /v/ two days ago and ended up playing 10 full games since then. All the MOBA aspects are daunting at first but luckily I noticed the Auto Queue Buy thing before my first game which made it so I didn't even have to open the shop once. Even without knowing what the hell my opponent's characters were doing I did totally fine just landing abilities and not overextending. After getting my feet wet and later watching a video explaining midbosses, urns, and slot machines everything is way less intimidating. Also, I feel right at home with the advanced movement mechanics.I was going to uninstall after playing the tutorials, but the strong first impression the game made with the cool hideout and character select which forced me to give a real match a shot. I can see why Valve ditched Neon Prime's "cyberpunk where heckin crime is legal" direction (reminds me of SEGA's Hyenas). The Dishonored look is way better.Dunno how much time I'll end up putting in this game but it surprised me to say the least.
Born to build cool general items that flesh out my mobility and ability uptimeForced to build some lame resist shred and anti heal bullshit
>>538120542why is her hands so big
>patch where all the strong heroes are boring and lameand this is where i check out
do i just copy items from tracklock? outside of situational stuffmost builds in the browser seem like turboshit
>>538092921FUCK miss chance. That shit is gay and belongs in Dota.
>>538094160ESL lol
>>538121691changing it from a menu screen to the interactive thing was a great idea from valve so people can fuck around without clicking tutorial to learn the game and entice you, nobody likes tutorial but people love a sandbox
>>538121691Welcome! I'm also new to the game and learning it has been a fun experience so far! First time I saw gameplay footage it made my head hurt but I felt this game was special and wanted to slowly give it time to grow on me. It pays off to learn your characters and experiment in each match just messing around with your abilities and learning your playstyle!
>>538086514who would win
>>538121821I just embraced the grind and learned to make my own builds. I'm a passive player that plays support, so I tend to focus on abilities and helping teammates instead of doing raw damage. Keep in mind, I'm low elo. But I feel that you'll get a better sense of the game if you dedicate some time to make a build for one of your mains.
The amount of redditors in this thread is concerning>>538122072left
>>538121821Some of the builds are good and they each have their own playstyle so eventually you'll find one that meshes, and by looking at the similar items per hero you can figure it out. Tracklock might help you filter the shit builds out though. Drifter especially has a lot of dogshit builds
>>538103689>If I add a random buzzword to my sentence I don't need to explain myself!Kill yourself nigger
>>538122120that just comes with timei remember doing epic builds like treads into bfury into a straight fucking satanic on jugg back when i started dotait wasn't very good
i've become an infernus one trickvery fun
>>538122367"Slop" is shitpostese for "crap" or "thing I don't like". Just like how "Redditor" is shitpostese for "person I don't like".
>>538122072Right has better teamfight potential but left absolutely fucks up anyone trying to split push or farm.
>>538121693just be a lane janny and save up to buy both
>>538104035Never happened, you have no friends
>>538107421You should rethink your life, faggot.
>finally get bebop>it's a complete fucking blowout with every lane losing>1-13 haze
>>538122761That's how every Bebop game I play goes>But you play Bebop every gameYeah...
>>538122441Yup, but that's the fun! Which is a word I seem to rarely read in these discussions. Ultimately, regardless of competetiveness, I just like having fun.
Juggernaut hero when?
>>538122761Is bebop a high desire pick at your rank? I'm in the shitters and nobody plays him. I think out of the 5 games I played today only 1 had him
>>538122072Me
>>538123169yeah, i'm in emissary so i guess that's probably where most of the one tricks are
Is Vyper disabled or something? I swear I never see anyone play that hero.
>>538123141We have a juggernaut item, so probably never
>>538123026based take
>>538123251she's not very good and has more of a niche playstyle
Any tips for playing Drifter?
>>538124251aim better, don't feed
>>538124634>don't feedDoes this mean to just be more careful and don't take fights you don't think you'll be able to win?
>>538124769no, it means to charge in like a retard everytime you see someone on your screen
Why do I get worse the more I play?
>>538124251Play around your 1 until you land your 2 then wait to kill them with it. Idk he's weird as fuck and I had triple your deaths in one game. Just keep trying him. Kinetic dash is mandatory on him, backstab probably too (but get it early)
>>538124251You can go 1:10 and still win? I guess that's the power of it being 6v6 rather than 5v5.
>>538125259>>538124251>>538125238>>538125152 Run in at every fight until you git gud. It is the drifter way.
>mystic burst doesn’t work with Mirage’s 3Unplayable dogshit
>>538120132Wraith is op thocute pic
>>538125446what rank is this? man i feel guilty when i die twice in one game, this is insanity
>>538125446What the fuck
>>538125578Alchemist usually, sometimes seeker
billy is always either completely unstoppable, barely hurt when you shoot at him or completely worthless.how is there no inbetween? sometimes that nigga just seems unstoppable.
>>538124769Judging by your stats you actually did quite well in this game. In my experience, mix around your builds. Remember that you don't have to play optimally, find an ability or playstyle you like and play around that. I rarely see people buy the reload item for example but it has come really in handy in characters that supposedly don't need it.
>>538125181i don't know
>>538125893It's basically impossible to get away from him so either you beat his ass or he beats yours. No in between
>>538125446Given that matches last 30 minutes, your drifter had an average lifespan of 65 seconds.
>>538124251Play safe, farm and don’t engage enemies directly until your build comes online, then you become an unstoppable serial killer
>>538126065>your drifterlook at the colors, anon.he WAS the drifter.
Every game I tell myself "I'm going to be a lane janny and when I do so I WON'T overextend so Drifter or whoever is roaming can't sneak up on me" and then I overextendI understand from watching guides that as long as you push an extra wave of creeps your own creeps will continue marching forward until they get to the next objective as long as they're not stopped by an enemy player, but I don't know what I should be doing to stay productive after I set that up. Pushing along with the waves gets the little guys there faster but risks overextending, and farming stuff that's not close by generally gives worse souls per minute (and also leaves you exposed if alone). Do I pick up urn and try to start an opportunity for a team fight/split push? If I see a big fight just starting should I rush over there, assuming I don't have the firepower to solo a walker and get out safely? That's the kind of macro stuff I struggle with.Ping-ponging between high alchemist and low arcanist for context, my team is never coordinated
built this only to shit on a nigger drifter's match. Your fire rate? -70% reduced the second you hit me and I hit you. Your lifesteal? Not happening with toxic bullets, healbane procced by tesla and inhibitor. Your vamp burst? Zapped by my capacitor. Fuck you nigger
>>538126298debuffs stack?
>>538126172Based
>>538126298I dont think siphon is affected by antiheal so he should have bought that>>538126363yeah but I think it's like this, a 40% and 30% debuff isnt 70% it's like 53%
Do you think Lady Geist would be motherly under the right conditions
>>538126295plug in a mic and use it
>>538126295if you want to lane janny you'd better pick a character that can kill walkers fast.sometimes the enemy team gives you windows to rat and if you don't take full advantage of them you may as well have been brooling the whole time instead.
>get to oracle>every single game is people only playing the top 10 heroes and playing sweaty as fucki love playing against the same 6 heroes every match it's so fun and interesting
>>538126419probably, am playing the bomber Ivy build and it says to buy the slowing purple item asap (while her 1 already slows)
Fuck ASSFAGGOTS what a tilting fucking game mode. Give deathmatch and capture the flag now.
>>538126625drifter is in every game at low mmr too, he's just FUN
>>538126930go back
>>538126930They'll probably make ARAM but what I want is a Twisted Treeline 3v3 or 4v4 small size map.
>>538126930>capture the flagbro, your urn?
>>538127373>your urn*my urn
>>538127264im not talking about drifterim talking about warden, seven, ivy, victor, mo and krill being in every single fucking game
i've noticed haze ult is a lot less good at instantly deleting people now, did it get nerfed badly at some point?i can just sit inside of it and punch her to death now.
>>538127525she definitely seems weaker than when I played a year ago. a 40k souls haze used to be a raid boss that only had to ult>>538127456warden is so cancer man, victor doesn't seem so bad any more but he's still unfun to fight just cause of how his hero works
>>538127634i just hate boring, easy shit being top tier. warden is the most bog standard boring ass hero in the game and he absolutely dominates at every rank, and the worst part is i don't even have fun winning on him because he's so god damn boring. same problem with seven and mo and krill, stupidly strong kits, incredibly boring to play
The game is badly designed I think. No fast M1 hero in your team = lose, no matter how well you've been doing early, you'll always get outpushed, and then outfarmed
>>538127787yeah hopefully they'll introduce draft or something at some point
>>538120542whenever i see a mcginnins on the enemy team and shes on my lane. i basically already give up mentally. shes so fucking powerful in laning and if you build her for literally anything shes just fucking aids cancer hiv garbage shit
I think for me the main issue is that spirit builds almost ALWAYS get beaten out by gun. The meta is gun and that kinda fucking sucksBut I get it, its a shooter first
more and more I gravitate toward the "no fun allowed "characters like Momo Warden and Ivy. I LOVE putting one enemy in the gay baby jail
>muh meeeetaaaaa
>>538128275sorry you're not at a high enough rank for it to matter
how do you do mina's ult low to the ground like I've seen people do to me? I tried to use it on patron but I flew too high up and wasn't in range despite being point blank on the ground next to it
>>538086514>deadlockfags accepted this OPso this is the true face of the Deadlock community...
What time it is?It's BROOLIN time!
>>538128351you have to dash jump and then immediately ult
>>538126363>>538126419they do stack, pic related
>>538126298I think all the debuffing possible in this game is going to turn into a problem sooner or later when people figure out that entirely preventing your enemy from playing the game in any capacity could be the most powerful (and most unfun) strategy to be employed in a competitive setting.
>>538128518isn't it equal to the amount from spirit burn?
>>538128593the same thing as dota then
>>538128726yeah it is, but I can't reliably proc spirit burn as McGinnis so I just run this instead
>>538128805fair, it still takes 3 slots it's a hard nef
>>538128740No idea what the meta is there. But for Deadlock imagine half or most of the enemy team running Suppressor/Juggernaut, Healbane/Toxic Bullets, Slowing Bullets and Inhibitor?
tfw 91% healing reduction
>>538128347go back, low iq subhuman
>>538128593yeah why else would they have introduced the fucking Doorman? The character whose entire identity is to minimize the amount of options you have when fighting him.
How mandatory is fleetfoot for melee cancel on goat?
>>538129246not at all, it is however, mandatory for making it so you can keep up with someone trying to run away from your barrage of bullets and light + heavy melees
>>538128593There are already ways to deal with those. Just get bkb or debuff reducer/remover
>>538120259He kinda sounds like he's just a placeholder, but I hope he isn't and that's what they actually intend for him to sound likeThe urn is unironically a good character who helps a lot to flesh out the game world
>>538129416>use debuff remover>receive 10 points of damage>all debuffs immediately reappliedOkay.
>>538128134she beats passive laners by default.if you play aggressively you can absolute shit on her in lane.
>>538129531it reduces their strength by 30% too
>>538129416debuff remover won't help with debuffs that get applied via spirit damage like healbane, suppressor, mystic slow, mystic vuln, etc
>>538129698debuff remover + enduring speed and the upgrade of that makes slows basically not exist
>>538129898that's true for slows yes, but the rest of the debuffs can get reapplied lickety split
>>538128593People already figured that out and that's why debuffs got nerfed
wish Paige got younger voice
>>538130163you watch too many cartoons
so what's with all of that insane telemetry Valve is gathering while you play deadlock?like GBs worth of telemetry
>>538130284Gathering data on how much your dead cock flops
>>538130284looking for ways to nerf your favorite hero and maintain the Seven meta
>>538130284how to properly nerf Ivy
>>538130748But Dr. Pagliacci...
I fucking hate doorman.
I love hate fucking doorman
if valve is going to give me my ninth forced loss in a row with 3 teammates that deal zero objective damage i should get a chat pass to say whatever i want imo
>not having FRIENDS to play withlmao sucks to be you
>>538132043this but unironically, half the time I solo queue this game i alt f4.playing a moba solo is suffering
Where do I see the permanent damage stacks I got from DURIFTO man.
>>538132090I don’t find it any less frustrating when I queue with a friend. Getting stomped isn’t any less tilting because you’re on a discord call with one of the other players
>had a dream where I was dating Doorman and he was dancing to Butter by BTSI am so infatuated with doorman that he has invaded my dreamsit's unironically so fucking over, bros...
>>538132348it literally is, any shit experience is better in the company of friends.if I was getting tilted at my retard teammates cuck watching me pin 4 people as Abrams at least I could go "holy shit these guys are retards" and my duo would agree.
>>538132118most hygene-forward drifter player
wait this is literally dota 2 but in a shooter format, it's the exact same kind of gameplay focus and has the exact same toxic fanbase
>occult setting>still no spoon bending psychic hero secretly working for the government
>>538133223>wait this is literally dota 2 but in a shooter formatinsane how much mileage you get from this image ITT
>>538133352>In 1992, Geller was asked to investigate the kidnapping of Hungarian model Helga Farkas. He predicted she would be found in good health but she was never found and is widely believed to have been murdered.>In 1997, Geller was involved with Second Division football club Exeter City by placing ‘energy-infused’ crystals behind the goals at Exeter's ground to help the club win a crucial end-of-season game. (Exeter lost the game 5–1.) He was appointed co-chairman of the club in 2002.We need a fraud character who pretends to have magic but really he's just running a bunch of gadgets and gizmos to fake it
>>538133223The entirety of dota2 is russians and peruvians. Nothing like deadlock at all
>>538133678>fraud character who pretends to have magic honestly, the game needs more characters who don't have magic, period.
alright they need to add another win condition where i can force both teams to lose. sometimes these mongrel retards need to be kept at the same rank at any cost, on both teams.
>>538133956We need a giant fucking RAT that is twice as big in the underground
Gun Holliday is the most fun I've had in this game so far. It's like prenerf Amby Spy but you get sick mobility and nice cc on top of that.And there's something incredibly satisfying about everyone else having to jump through hoops to pull off some occult magic bullshit while you can just show up bang bang bang blasting and clicking heads with a pistol.
Is this game worth getting into at this point? I played 5 games and was matched against players with hundreds or thousands of hours.
>>538134879what is the purpose of this image? is it on topic? what emotion is it meant to convey? how is it relevant to your post? is it someone we're supposed to know?
>>538134879i wouldn't recommend it for new players until they get an actual ranked algorithm. i've seen my own rank change multiple divisions in a week. it's calvinball and it makes the matchmaking useless
>>538134879If you can't handle losing or getting stomped dont play. There will never be enough new players for you to have your hand held through multiple games.
>>538135178He probably was meant to post some cropped furry porn as usual but missclicked
>like to play doorman because he's cool, mysterious and fun>people think I am a homosexual
>>538136021they're calling you a faggot because of your broken bell, not your feminine features.
>>538136151I don't even build for bell
>>538136021they're right to think that
Drifter should have double the range of his current gun or his teleports behind u skill should have 5x the hitbox or velocity to be landable
>ring of keys that's also a gundo you think it's a problem sleuth reference?
https://x.com/py_bun/status/1964220510918889967This community is full of discord grooming trannies. It's over.
>>538107049healbane just deals with him for you, he gets near me i torment pulse him and stone form his ass so he's not safe
>>538101659Yeah seems good as long as you get AOE increasing items so they land on more enemies. Maybe duration too. Fuck healing, prevent enemies from doing damage in the first place
>>538136578everyone already knows that about twitter
>>538136323>Gun DoormanYou are disgustingI respect it
>>538136021>picrel
>>538136323>it's so broken they don't even have to build for it
>don't care about ranked>don't care about win or lose>just want to improve my own gamepla>actually have fun with mobas again
>>538136794i get the t3 ability range item, but not duration extender mostly because it felt like it's unnecessary so far and it's a whole item slot
I don't care how many people tell me it is shit. I'm still building full spirit 1 shot Yamato all focused on the slash. It's so fun to slide around corners charging the slash and just nuke some random haze that was just farming a random jg creep. Peak gameplay
>>538106869Eleven tiers each with 6 ranks, is that even good for the playerbase ?
>>538138906You can get matched with people 4 tiers away, it's not like it's segregating each rank.
>People keep saying Drifter is the most broken hero>Play Warden>consistently get more kills, more damage, and more obj damagewhat could it mean
>>538106869i've seen someone go from oracle to ritualist to arcanist to phantom in the course of two weeks so i wouldn't take anything seriously. it's all broken
>>538139117that drifter got nerfed into the ground since release but warden only lost like .1 spirit scaling on his ult and 5 flask damage (he was already a top 3 hero before the new ones)
why is this allowed?
>>538139546yoshi is sexually attracted to seven
>>538139546seven is this games kunkka. although now that icefrog is working on this as well we might just get actual kunkka
maybe telling that one vindicta that I'd rape his entire nigger family was a mistake
whys everyone obsessed with backstabber on drifter
>>538136445he already permanently scales off of kills and can duel most characters, what else do you want?
>>538140031it's just thematically cool that's alldude on the portrait has a knife and it's fucking SICK
>>538140031he literally teleports behind you so you get to trigger it for free
>Drifter literally gets to teleport behind his opponentRavenbros... I don't feel so good...
>>538139546Hmm... Seven's pick rate is kinda low. Not gonna lie he might need a buff.
>get queued into high oracle/high phantom games>fit right in, do my job, active players, don't even need anything but pings to coordinate>win most of my games>get queued into archon>braindead retards need to be told 24/7 on repeat that there's a wave pushing into a walker, literally 4-5 people constantly just BROOLING mid>lost most of my games hereIt's funny how uncarryable these dipshits are. Like I'm playing into much higher skilled players and the games are easier.
>>538102343>ivy echo sharding stone form is decentunless you overlap the stun this feels sorta shit like they just dodge immediately in the gap when they know your game. different story if you got web of course.
>>538140620>braindead retards need to be told 24/7 on repeat that there's a wave pushing into a walker, literally 4-5 people constantly just BROOLING midthis is the same as my alchemist games
>>538109449wave management as in forcing the wave to a point in the map that is both defendable and easy to gank. so imagine the wave is on the ramp upto our walker right and we push it out every time and you're expected to come ALL the way over to farm the wave. this leaves you away from your own towers, it takes time to rotate to help you, you're vulnerable and easy to gank. if you're behind, you just get raped on repeat. pretty much they'll do this as long as it takes them to get the items they think they need to close out the game. could be one big ticket item like leech or refresher.
>>538140767it's just "decent" because it's hard to hit, but it still heals you 2/3rds of your HP and gives you like 5 seconds of invulnerability so you can do stuff like stall a 1v4 in front of a walker while your kudzu and torment pulse slowly kills it and the enemies can only cope about only
>>538140895yeah you want to know the best part emissary is the rank below archon and they're actually pretty decent at comming and macro. this ranked system is not indicative of skill. it's just different perceptions of meta. so archon retards think they don't need to watch the map and just brool. low oracle is much the same. high oracle/phantom actually play like normal humans.
>>538139546Can't stop the spooky electric skeleton man.
>>538141063they kinda raped stone form hard. it's more like just under half with echo shard. and that's assuming you ain't anti healed.
>>538094224what a paindeadlock is dark souls of assfaggots
>>538141378damn that's with heal effectiveness? what the fuck, i guess i'm so used to it that i thought that was base and with HE it went to 30
>>538141378The fact you still have a 23% max HP heal with a >1s stun built into your kit is insane, along with flying away willy nilly. Ivy feels unkillable in a 1v1 with all her cooldowns.
>>538139728>now that icefrog is working on this as wellnigga...he has been the lead since its inception
>>538139546He's Yoshi's main.
I wish valve would've picked a specific point in history and actually adhered to it instead of squandering it. The setting just feels way too lose with its time period to the point where you have to wonder why they even bothered at all.Like, it's supposed to take place around the late 40s but thematically speaking it could be anywhere from the 20s to the 60s and that's just awful. Imagine creating a game that takes place in 2020 during the pandemic but everything seems to be stuck in 2002, it doesn't make any sense and it doesn't serve any purpose.Even then, they don't dress accordingly, they don't speak accordingly and the interface and music is way too modern. They even insist on having graffiti everywhere.The great depression would've been an obvious good choice, with anyone desperately looking to get a wish granted.
what are you meant to do after winning lane?do you stay in the lane and push the walker or help the other lanes get their guardians?
>>538142251depends on your role but yeah usually you will want to start assisting other lanes or farming neutral camps/boxes, one person should at least stay near lane to delay the enemy from getting your first guardian as well
>>538142074They went all in on le quirky fun characters with Billy and straight up pandering like with Paige and Mina is here too. The artstyle wasn't even fully realised and it died already
>teamfight characters are the most fun>if you don't splitpush you autolose>end up spending 10+ minutes in lane as lash, with the most objective damage after taking ONE walkeri genuinely, genuinely do not understand. if i have a team that actually pushes lanes, it's an auto win. If i have to do it, i end up 10k+ net worth above my whole team and the enemy team buys THREE knockdowns to chain stun me to death.Why doesn't anyone fucking push? don't they want money to buy items? are they content to just have no money and lose every fight?
not even gonna spare a (you) to obvious bait
hear me outrefresher on warden
>>538142557mediocre players are gigapussies that love their K/D and are too afraid of "feeding" to ever push
>>538142251>character is good at pushingunga down your lane>character is bad at pushinggank
>>538136323Do you just buy items based on which icon looks the coolest
>>538136323How good is maxed out Trophy Hunter?
>enemy team is just deathballing every lane while youre 5 other retards are junglingWhy do I never get these teams, is it all premades?
Chat, what went wrong
>>538143649>deathballing every laneIf they are all on one lane, that means that the other 2 are free for the taking. I almost never join team fights, I just push lane. Sometimes my teammates call me a retard for this, and my low K/D doesn't allow me to defend myself, but when we lose, I often have the most objective damage on my team.
>>5381438644v6 because your paige went support and someone picked calico
>>538141625>I refuse to build knockdown, I just won't haha!
>>538143864Calico most likely fed Shiv and you also lost the draft war because the enemy team has a way better comp
>team mate asks you to swapalways say no the lanes are balanced by MMR and whatever retard is asking you to stop is undoubtedly lower mmr
>>538144318is this still true after they changed to 3 lanes.I have laned against some alchemist or lower players (in an alchemist 1 rated match) as Ritualist VI
>>538144318Usually it's just someone who wants to lane with the friend he queued with. I always accept. It's just a video game.
>>538144490On that subject isn't there a 'put me in a lane with my party members' option in the menu? I keep seeing people ask to swap to play with their duo so are they just retarded and not using this option or does it not work?
>>538144318>the lanes are balanced by MMRSo poorly.
>>538144318>swap lane>the guy i swapped with does great>the guy i ended up in lane with was a worthless gigaretard constantly at 100hp and i had to stall lane basically on my own until the guy i swapped with came to helpthis happens to me every time, sometimes i wonder if they somehow know, but it's more likely that the guy who swapped with me is in a duo that communicates and that's why they do well
>>538144591Is there? I haven't seen one. I'll have to take a look next time.
>>538136021link for the mod?
>>538144064I feel like the community had finally realized full support is a meme and the release of Paige set us back to square one
whats lane stalling
>>538145232playing defensive so you don't die but they also don't kill your guardian
Yep...I'm kinda GAWDLIKE
>>538145470based doorman giving you guys an extra kill and putting ult on cd
>>538145470>self-glaze as holliday>as most oppressive laner in the gamelet's not get carried away
burst fire vs swift strikerwhich one and why?
>>538145903>tier 2 item vs tier 3 item?
I guess they replaced Seven because he had headshot reduction and picked Abrams because he's the mascot, but I think they should have used someone more evil/mean, probably Lash since he's already kind of the punching bag of everyone
>>538142654it's reached a point where i'm not having fun.i just had a game where my team fought in green for TEN MINUTES while i bounced back and forth between blue and yellow to stop them from split pushing to base.I ended up getting a walker on my own while the team fight never got the walker. THEY FOUGHT AT GREEN WALKER FOR TEN FUCKING MINUTES. I MADE THE ENEMY LEAVE AND DEFEND WALKERS SEVERAL TIMES. HOW DID THEY NOT GET IT?? WHAT WAS HAPPENING OVER THERE?
>>538146223broolCHADS having fun while the lane janny sweeps the floor
i wish an anvil would fall on the head of anyone at the end of the game blaming k/d for their loss
>>538146215billy would be the best pick imo
How come oathkeeper never talks…Does that qualify her to join the Baxter society haha
As Haze and Wraith do I use my ganking potential after lane or do I use my objective potential to push Walker?
>>538146483>hazegank>wraithwalkers
Just tried Calico for the first time, what is her play style?I followed the default build, but it's so fucking useless, I'm just acting as the tank that go in front and take damage for the team but unable to do anything.
>>538147296her play style is pick a different character
>>538146287it's fucking dumb. i might just start playing mcginnis and go magic carpet because it genuinely feels like there's no way to win a game besides avoiding teamfights completely.like, i lost 4 games in a row where i had the most networth because people sit in the fucking jungle and watch troopers buttfuck the tower.i know i can't control my teammates and i shouldn't get angry when they don't do what i want them to. at the same time, i don't understand how i'm supposed to focus on my own gameplay when the only thing i can focus on is how to break more boxes before the next wave shows up because anytime i go to a teamfight, no one else defends the lane. at the same time, any game where teammates actually understand to push walkers and i can go like 0-6-0 as pocket and win without contributing at all. it's so fucking frustrating.
>>538147296You sneak up to someone, press 1 2 4 and they die
the walker will kill the minions, but only i can kill this t3 jungle camp
when are normalfags leaving?
just had a game where there must have been at least 3 pings/in-game callouts (affirmative, lets go green, i see lash, etc) per 10 seconds for the entire game past laning stage.We won but i don't know if it was worth listening to that.
>>538144318>lanes are balanced by MMRthey are?
>>538146073both upgrade from rapid rounds so its usually never a play to have both, also one provides more contextual stats while the other is high from the get go
>>538142640people already do that
the instant i hear retards being funny screaming match start i know its a losshahaa yes ivan its so funny how you speak english with a broken accent oh man im slapping my knee
I never know when to stop following my build to buy situational survivability/counter items
>every game in which I think I did decently I can see in the post game screen I got carried with lowest amount of player and obj damage>every game lost is almost all my faultIt's been hard getting back into the 'lockAlso I got a game of Alchemist 1 average and people were doing calls, stealing neutrals and shit, game put me in ritualist and the most big brained thing I ever did back when I was still playing is buy curse of for annoying characters and do movespeed builds on M&K...
>>538148852i turned mic volume down to zero in the settings so i never have to hear voice chat
deleted the gamefuck it, some heroes I like are unplayable When Talon has like whatever 6 arrows and Paradox has just one carabine shot or Yamato has just one power slash - you just know the balance is shit and that furfaggot Yoshi can go fuck himself.
>>538149384ranks are broken asf atmgood players are being put in initiate-alchemist for some reason
If good players didn't want to play in low ranks maybe they shouldn't have quit for a year and come back just to goon to mina and doorman
>>538145903swift striker if you have other fire rate items
what do i build on vinny?
>see my team is being stomped and doesn't know what they're doing>abandon the game because they're feeding over and over>get banned from matchmaking for 6 hourswhat the fuck? I only left 2 games out of like 30I get that there should be a leaving penalty but that's way too fucking long considering I very rarely leave gameswhy do I have to be punished because Valve hasn't added a surrender button?
>>538145615holy
>>538150236fireratemax flight
>>538145903depends, if you want the move speed go for burst fireif you dont need it go for swift strike
>>538149606Makes sense, I don't believe the people I was playing with were anywhere near those levels.
>>538150236gun , fire rate and spirit, you can focus on debuffs to lower resistances
>enemy is way overextended and 3 people are hovering on the lane next to them>ping them to go in>say I'm going in with ivy ult>they just stand there and watch her zipline out for freethese people need to be euthanised. they make this game exhausting as fuck to play.
>>538150321there will never be a surrender button, even if there are matches where it is obviously oversomething like, if there is a t1 tower up 15 mins in, then the other team can surrender
>>538092464Was he OP, garbage, or just alright from this?
>>538150321Should be permanent
>>538149312It's a pretty safe bet to look at who's carrying on the enemy team, see when they buy some t4 spirit item or some shit, maybe it's time to build spellbreaker/t3 resist. Shit like that. Just pay attention to the item notifications.
>>538142074>way too loseesl moment
>>538139546seven is punishment for games that go over 30 minutes
>>538142074your mom is loose
this hero based matchmaking is so fucking ass manwhoever designed this shit should be shot
Which heroes will get a fortnite skin
>>538151340"nooo, you can't just leave, you gotta stay in a match for 40 minutes where your team is feeding over and over and you're having zero fun!"go fuck yourself, anon, I shouldn't be punished hard for leaving what was clearly a hard stomp
>try to play gun characters>feels like I need to perfectly beam someone for 500 years to kill anyone on my own even with early damage items to the point it feels completely counter intuitive to even bother fighting in the mid-game between lane phase and powerspike>but once I hit my 20-25 minute powerspike I just start melting people>but Spirit characters just chunk people on a 4 second cooldown with no resource management needed and feel much stronger in the early to mid-game to the point I can just snowball super easily on shit like Bebop and Geist and just win the game off that with barely any farming needed
>>538151776Hop on discord and do a 6stack then
>>538151874You'll get a guaranteed matchmaking ban for abandoning a game. You know what won't guarantee you a ban? Buying a rescue beam to feed your teammates so the game ends faster. I've done it at least a dozen times by now and haven't been banned once. You just gotta know how to abuse the system
>>538151550As if americans don't write shit like "could of"
>>538152081Obsessed
>>538152020I might do thatAs I mentioned earlier I rarely leave games, I only left 2 games and the first was because my electricity went out so it was out of my controlMy team hadn't gotten a single guardian and the enemy team somehow had gotten one of our walkers and our base guardians within 10 fucking minutes
>>538151926One problem though is that if your retard teammates are too stupid to push objectives whenever you get kills and the game lasts long enough for most of the enemy team to buy spellbreaker because of it, then you start doing zero damage to the enemy gamers and you lose because of it.
>>538152020This but unironically, buy a Rescue Beam, a Greater Expansion and a Majestic Leap, leap into the enemy team, target an ally with the expanded range from GE and yank them into the enemy team and then bail out with a Warp Stone + Veil Walker or something while your retard teammate gets eaten alive.
>>538152081cope, your points were garbage anyways
>>538145903burst firei heckin love sliding
>>538152181Yeah and? If your teammates are feeding you won't kill anyone even as a super-farmed, full build gun character either. That's besides the point at the moment.
>>538105675I'm Archon (4th highest rank, not impressive but still up there) and was mindblown when the shitty Paige I had been playing with all game said as our patron died "my first game of Deadlock, wasn't that fun but I'll play a bit more".Valve wtf is this obvious e-girl on her first game doing in archon.
>>538152332I've had some games where I built gun mcginnis when my teammates were running around like chickens with their heads cut off and I was still able to carry the game because she just melts people and objectives so I could 1v11. I can't do the same on someone like GT.
>>538152361Archon is not the 4th highest rank, poopbro
>>538145903Burst Fire, it gives more Fire Rate, gives Move Speed to run niggers down/kite them with using Fleetfoot and with Extra Duration + Transcendent Cooldown makes the duration basically the same length as the cooldown so you basically get 100% uptime on it when shooting enemies.
>>538152361I think new player placement is just like a random rank in between initiate and archon maybe because Valve is just trying to test out where new players should go. Kinda stupid but it's how they're doing it.
>>538152468The enemies clearly weren't actually fed then if you could actually 1v11. When the enemy team is actually fed they just don't ever fucking die unless they have ZERO people building any sort of shielding or healing.
can games stop being gloomy and have nice blue skies
>>538152704I mean usually those games are when everyone but me is incompetent. If the enemy team knows what they're doing but mine doesn't then it was over from the start anyways no matter what I do.
>>538145667most oppressive laner is probably sinclair desu>yeah bro I get to just delete half your hp every 10 seconds this is balanced actually oh yeah and if you man up I'll rape you with 0 gun items because my assistant just doubles my damage literally
if you playVindicita, Warden or Paigeyou need to be killed and hung up by your entrails for being a disgusting freak.
>>538152881I'm talking about the blatantly forced loss games where it feels like you're fighting a coordinated 6 stack that just never dies no matter how fed or farmed you are because the rest of your team is inbred. But even then that's not what I was saying when I made my initial post anon.
>we have rejuv>we all go into the patron pit to end the game>bebop goes back to push the lanes (they were halfway down the lane and not in base>lose the fight because bebop has the highest networh>lose the game because bebop can't defend the base 1v6i'm gonna FUCKING lose my mind playing this game. that was such a good game compared to all the ones i had today too. fucking faggot nigger
>>538152847I feel like it makes a lot of sense for the occult themed game to have a gloomy atmosphere.
>>538145615if abrams looked like this i would main her
>>538149445>game bans me for a month again for calling out russian niggers>mute everyone in the game and exclusively ping, refuse any swapsfuck this shit community
>>538152847do you still live in 2011
>>538153037i still want blue skies>>538153167yes
>>538121691>Writing>EmbarrassingWtf do you people want? The dialogue in this blows every other hero shooter out of the water. You're not going to get some deep and philosophical conversation in a game like this but what little there is is pretty damn good.Do zoomers just attribute to talking to other people as cringe?
>>538122072In a 'competitive' (lol) setting right.In a pub, left.
>>538121691good to know that some /v/tards are still willing to actually play the games they shit on and change their mind on them if they end up enjoying it
Valve will paywall time of day and weather effects.
>>538121691>Deadlocks writing>Embarrassingover my decades of gaming Vyper is one of the funniest characters I have ever seen in a game.this games writing and interactions are fucking great, you're probably some faggot too far up his own ass and calls everything that isn't aggressively edgy "cringe" or "embarrassing" truly, i'd like to know, what books/writing do you consider "good"?>inb4 nothing like fucking always
>>538153325>>538153553It is pretty impressive how well characterized most of the characters are in this game when it's treated like an afterthought for basically every other multiplayer game. The characters in this game are unironically better than the characters in a lot of story focused games.
>>538133353Wrong use of the image. This game is literally made by the creator of Dota 2 and many of the movesets in the game are just lifted off Dota 2 heroes, along with many of the items.It's straight up the design philosophy behind Dota 2 just put into a third person shooter, with some exceptions made to try and keep the games shorter (most noticeably the lack of buyback).
what hero is truly braindead to play? like toss 2 abilites and wait for cooldown at the enemy braindead?
>>538139546>Riot way of balancing"Players are too retarded to move out of this hero's ultimate, leading him to have a high win rate. We must rework him to have a more generic moveset so he can have a ~50% winrate across all ranks".>Icefrog way of balancinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJPx-6pzPY
>>538153856Victor is the most braindead character by a country mile.
>>538153729>Yeah, Blazeblue is literally the exact same game as guilty gear >"how?">well um, you see, they're both anime fighters made by Arc sys!>see look, they both have supers! that means they're the same!this is how retarded you soundshotgun to uvula please, dotatrannies are fucking obnoxious.
>>538154000It really wouldn't be farfetched to say that Blazblue (as of it's inception at least) was basically just Guilty Gear. Over the years it distanced itself from Guilty Gear by adding more unique mechanics but at the start it existed to be a replacement for Guilty Gear.
>>538153856
>>538154206Well at least my girl Ginnis isn't drooler-tier
>>538152545the cheap early game sprint helps with more rotations and simply being where you need to be early game. also fire-rate is strong in general and a fire-rate boost that early is always great. that being said, I usually end up running both swift and burst fire on the same guy
>Haze if she had an actual good design
>>538151926Opposite experience for me. I regularly melt people on gunniggers but spiritsissies need 2 or 3 cooldowns of 10-30 seconds to deal the same damage that I can do in 5 seconds with a gun in which the only cooldown is the 2.5 second reload every 5-8 seconds.
>>538154551Swift Striker and Burst Fire in the same build sounds redundant but then again I just lack the slots for it, my aim is kinda ass so I have to use Split Shot to melt people as a gun character.
alright mina is broken now she bursts way too fast
>>538154693...this is AI art, no?
>>538154693she would have a tiny locomotive conductor on her shoulder?
>>538154206>buy improved spirit and shoot the enemy laner>rape
>>538145667she got nerfed chud
>>538153503Why don't people just mod those in dota2?
>>538153251We NEED a basic parkour bitch
>>538154693I googled and this is 100% AI art lmao. And this is a game funded by Amazon, yes the Jeff Bezos company. How come one of the richest companies won't pay actual artists, even for a game that will undoubtedly fail?I guess that if they were to hire artists, they'd probably be indian anyway, so whatever.
>>538151579That's a good point. Stat sites should display win rate alongside match length.
>>538155136AI is the future, get over yourself.
I've taken to watching match replays to see what went wrong. 99.99% of the time it's the haze/wraith/infernus over-extending or getting picked and immediately dying for no reason. these guys are always the most vocal whiners too.
>>538154772If you're headshotting people so perfectly you melt them fast than a Spirit character can in the early game, you are not a proper representation of how gun characters feel to play, you're one of those adderall sweaty kids.
>>538154693what shitty chinese spyware is this
>>538155345NTA, but only indie devs should ever be using AI. Multi-million dollar companies should be paying actual human beings.>>538155602Some dogshit made by Amazon.
>>538155345nta but if you can't fucking bother to pay an artist to make an asset for your game, your game is probably uninspired dogshit made purely for profits with 0 love or passion behind it.but a disgusting pajeet like yourself wouldn't know that, now fuck off and get back to play slop of duty.
>playing vyper>use her 2 on a low hp hero as they're retreating>it leaves them with a tiny sliver of hpthis happens way too often for my fucking liking.
>>538155136if they didn't pocketed the money they wouldn't be rich dumb dumb ;)
>>538156135All this says is you need 1 more item to secure early kills
>>538156135they nerfed the damage of it a while ago, i've seen dozens of times where someone SHOULD be dead but they nerfed her.God I hate low elo faggots SOOOO fucking much.literally had a bebop tranny go "wtf shiv execute on 2?" after he hooked my Vyper and killed her from FULL HP because he landed a hook by walker.LITERALLY 0 FUCKING AWARENESS from the retards that cry about Vyper.
so my gameplan with holliday is jumppad into meleeing the bomb right on their head?
>60% winrate>have gone from alchemist five to arcanist twothis shit BLOWS>why care about rankbecause playing any hero that isn’t a late game hypercarry like seven/infernus/haze/victor is a complete throw
This game is so hard to pull away from, I always want to do one more even though I have IRL obligations
>>538156463why would they nerf a hero that is practically bottom tier
>>538156584what does playing those characters have to do with rank
>>538156506Yes but you don't need to use the pad to get the instant explosion. Being mid-air in general will let you get it.
>>538156883Because she was top tier for a long time, tardniggerbro
>>538156924carries are what they say in the nameif you play them you have a higher chance of winning than if you expect someone else to play them, let alone play them well
>>538156883because 95% of this player base is dogshit retards who flowchart their builds so they get rolled by a Vyper because they're full glass cannon and can't aim to hit the sliding vyper and instead of goingArctic BlastReturn Firemetal skinknock downPlated armorfucking ANYTHINGthey'd rather just upgrade into boundless spirit then cry on forums.enough crying later, Vyper is dead in the water despite being THE most fair gun character in the game.
>>538156463this is the only damage nerf it received
Why does Pocket still have the -15% spirit res? Does anyone else have non-zero resistances at the start? Mcginnis lost hers
First time Seven. he seems fun. His gun fire rate, not so much
>>538156959leap good on her?
>>538157156>Why does Pocket still have the -15% spirit res?because that fucking twink has the best escape ability in the game along with the best safety move in the game with satchel while nuking your HP with his rotation?if he couldn't be one tapped, he'd be broken.honestly, if you ask me he should have -15% bullet res too.or give his ass the Mina treatment and nuke his base HP.
>>538157156Because pocket has a spammable disjoint to dodge most incoming nukes
>>538156924>play a support hero or someone like mina who falls off in late gameenjoy drifter backshots to the defeat screen
>>538157147As a Vyper player I can see why they did it. It used to be absurdly powerful if you were good at the movement. This is the problem with designing characters where the balancer is just "its difficult to be good at it". People who are really good will just completely shit on everyone
>>538156584rank is a meme and does not exist outside of eternus. it is no more than a ~30% accurate reading of your last 5 games
>>538157053carries get raped before they come onlinethe problem is that the game doesn't have enough proactive characters that can close out games before carries reigndrifter is the only real one. characters that can push in theory should be able to, but in actuality pub players are retarded and ending games by pushing requires a team
funny how calico months ago was super oppressive and is now the wet fart of deadlock
>>538157597that's not her problem, at all. because to do any damage on her you NEED to be sniffing people unlike Haze, Wraith or Infernus.there are MULTIPLE ways to nullify her movement, people are just egotistical faggots and NEED their t4 damage item instead of just building Arctic blast or Knockdown. Vyper straight up kills herself without vamp burst if you have return fire.
>you don't understand I need to kill the tier 1 jungle creeps instead of help save you from two people chasing you down!!!Get rid of the fucking jungle already. Holy fuck these people are act like they need to get these camps instead of save their teammate.
>>538157739if she gets fed by retards in lane she can still become a hard burst escape hero like she used to be. definitely is the one character that just needs a full rework.
>>538157731>carries get raped before they come onlineSometimes. Can't win them all.
>>538157156He does the most damage in the game with the least commitment. Most Pockets are building close to no damage items and still topscoring damage because of his Barrage's 24-40% damage amp.
>>538157879>Holy fuck these people are act like they need to get these camps instead of save their teammate.Who are the people? Like DOTA players or something? I came to this game from a shooter background and it took me a while to even find out jungle was a thing. I still dont really understand it. Are the super farmers not bored of just doing the exact same jungle every game?
>the shills are still trying to force the "well designed characters" memethere is not a single character in this game that could rival any Overwatch hero. Not to mention that there is a gigantic disparity between the new Deadlock characters and the old ones, honestly I can't imagine them putting the "New" away. If you dont have to pick 3 older heroes there will be 5 or 6 new heroes every game
i don't like rejuvthey should just copy baron and give you a a proximity minion buff + faster ziplinemaybe add more teleporters that require the buff to use
>>538158392Damn I guess you better go back to overwatch then.
>>538158392Agree but Drifter's design is a complete embarrassment. This game still needs DPS Doomfist.
>>538158392>overwatch as a gold standardlol
>>538158392damn i... don't give a shityou can kill yourself now
>>538145667>>538152945>most oppressivethat'd be McGnocchi
>>538158392>there is not a single character in this game that could rival any Overwatch hero.
>>538157739i mean she was the new overpowered hero with overtuned abilities and then she was gutted into near-worthless. the mirage experience
>>538158392>there is not a single character in this game that could rival any Overwatch heroas someone with over 3k hours in Overwatch 1 and like 100 in OW2.Doorman ALONE mogs the entirety of Overwatch.the ONLY thing OW has over Deadlock is how hot bastion is.that's it.
>>538152945most oppressive laner is doorman thankfully most of them don't press 2
>>538153251Nobody gives a fuck. It doesn't make sense for the setting. Play Valorant or Shitvel Shitvals.
>>538158614>here is my reply to show you how little I carewhy are normalfags so fucking retarded?
>>538159012>most oppressive laner is doormanno, that's still Warden.it'll always be Warden because Warden gets to nuke you and make you deal 30% reduced damage any time you DARE to look at him along with him getting guardian for free when he hits 3.6k
>>538158979>puppy girl tranny bastion what the fuck...
>>538152847>>538153251>>538159061The match should start in the morning and then turn into gloomy night 10 minutes in
>>538145903burst fire if you want to brool like a niggerswift striker if you want to push towers and clear waves
>>538159209where are you getting "puppy girl" from..?it's just Bastion with a cock.
>>538159172yeah except against doorman who just tosses him into the shadow realm
>>538159332he's got a collared leashalso it's a huge tranny fetish for some reason so it's a safe assumption
>>538158979I can smell the estrogen from here
>statlocker takes into consideration if you played well in games you lost to approximate what rank you should be at>meaning statlocker is much better at approximating your skill level over the ingame ranked systemvalve completely mogged by third party analyticsthis will unironically help me not tilt when losing games
>>538158979so these are the deadlock fans huh
>>538159436the only people I knew who were into being leashed were cis gay men.
>>538159592>app jerks you off and tells you you're a pro when you're not just to keep you coming backand you fell for it.
What's the most contrarian hipster character I can pick up and main to maximize my desire to be different and an underdog?
it's a breath of fresh air to play an ASSFAGGOTS where dying in the earlygame isn't the end of the world, even if my team may act like it sometimes
>>538159239that'd be nice, represents the state of the game well toobest part is the laning phase then it just keeps getting worse
>>538159808God, fucking forreal.>hey, you died to the drooling retards cheesing in a bush playing Caitlyn/Pyke?>congrats, for the next 14 minutes you're not allowed to play the game and will be at a permanent gold/XP deficit from one cheese play at minute 2.
>>538159793One of these
>>538159808dota has been lose lane -> win game capable for a long time
>>538159715>cisok tranny
>>538159951>walking near the bush when the enemy team has a pykepisslow>>538159808have you played anything other than League? Dying early in Dota isn't that bad
>>538160003>Vyper is exclusively played by specialists and mains>still has a dogshit meme winrateimagine how fucking BAD this character is for the average player if the very niche mains can't even get above 50% with her.
Remember to have fun too anonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQEw261O_C0
>>538160307shan't give you a view, just a (you)
>>538159592Rank being purely determined by wins/losses has always been a dumb option IMO, if you get feeders again and again its not your fault that solo carrying became impossible.
>>538160363didn't ask, don't care
>>538160153how DARE I exist in lane and try to ward ever?was a D1 jg player btw, slobber on it.
>>538160003>Miku >has a good kit>win rate is good>pick rate is abysmalHer remodel is just that bad huh
>>538160307I clicked on this video with my ad blocker on just to downvote it and report it to totally cuck it from showing up on people's recommended videos.
>>538159814Go back faggot
>>538160546and I was Master while playing 4 roles (not jungle), also why are you talking about a role you have no idea how to play? thank god I've stopped playing League, npcs such as yourself are what has ruined this game
>>538126298Wow it's almost like this build works against any carry!!!!
>>538160598she's just cancer boring, bro. it has nothing to do with her model, people are playing fucking Yamato.
>>538160296Viper is unironically outclassed by every other gun character
>>538160860>probably low masters 0 LP>on lanes that take 0 thinking or skill>probably exclusively played no talent shit like Lulu or Sorakayou'd be G4 peak on jg, stop speaking animal.
name a more cost effective item
>>538160598She wasn't exactly goonbait before
>>538161037>jungle is harder than the other rolesjesus christ, you should have never found out about this site. You are a normalfag who belongs on reddit. Your last (you) from me, league npc animal
>>538161094Who even buys this?
>>538161094*silences myself*
>>538161141>not denying he's a carried support shitterPhreak reached your rank by spamming Maokai btwfucking Phreak.LMAO, carried bot.and yes, D1 playing Rengar is far more impressive than being low masters 0 LP on support.
>>538161170McNiggis for one
>leaguenigger can't even fucking readswitching to Dota is the best decision any self-concious human being can make, well outside of just not playing competitive team games, that is
>>538161419Uh oh, rape victim melty!I accept your concession, rape victim.
>>538161094Opening rounds
>>538161419it is interesting how retarded and inane league posters get they seem ready to devolve into chimps at the drop of a hat
>Dotatrannies inserting themselves into yet another space where they aren't invitedLiterally the vegans of MOBAs
>>538161653As a former league fag, yesHaving your games be a coin-flip due to junglers makes you perma seethingtis why I quit and play this instead
>>538160862Yamato has 2B mod though
>won my lane>came out of lane phase 2-0 with solid farm>took a bunch of early objectives too>lose anyway cause some drooling gorilla niggers can't play Infernus, Wraith or Billy without dying 10+ times
>>538162010the vast majority of this game does not mod, especially not something as tacky and shit as putting 2b in fucking Deadlock.
>>538162010Which at most 15k people use and it doesn't work anymore
Drifter is fun.
>>538161094wait till you find out about enchanters emblem
>winning lane hard>tard billy on the opposite side of the map goes 2-4 and ragequits>my team leaves and we loseepic!
>>538161653I'm the guy you've responded to, I've been playing since s3, was a Top main for a long time but branched out to play every role outside of jungle. The game has been getting shittier and shittier with every year and I've quit last year, making a switch to Dota.League players are the epitome of dunning-kruger effect. There is no discussion to be had, they will just spam retarded shit that's not relevant to the topic, just like that retard I've been responding to. They are like that irl and in game, they will force a shit play and if it doesn't work out then it's your fault. Every player is tilted as fuck all the time. These "people" have no understanding of losing matchups, they see that you have a bad k/d or farm and will start flaming you and putting the blame on you if your team is losing the game, I was completely in shock how different the Dota playerbase is when I started playing (once I understood what's going on ofc, the game was really hard at first). League is unplayable without muting everyone at the start of the game and even then you are risking someone soft or hard trolling the game cuz you didn't follow his play/dont participate in a flame war. A lot of games end at the 15th minute mark because that's the point that you can surrender the game. It's obvious that the playerbase is exclusively normalfags/failed normalfags. The champion design is great but the gameplay loop is shit and the community is absolutely dogshit. I made some friends in League but it was a long time ago and honestly, I dont think it's possible anymore. Especially with the draconic chat restiction system, which I dont even want to bother explaining. tl;dr League is a fucking NPC infested shithole
>>538158979this post reeks of minatranny
Total matchmaking failure.
>>538162202>15kanon... that's huge for this game
>>538163153honestly they should just disable victor in any lobby where the average rating is less than like oracle. they simply do not have the tracking to kill him through infuser
how the fuck is this lightning nigger still allowed to have his retarded kit
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>>538163563I have no issue with that Victor (in fact, his only death was to me, 1v1). The real issue was everyone else alongside Victor.
Does the game ever have tense or exciting moments? Coming from Dota so far all my matches are just snowballs from landing phase, no real strategy and are just essentially a marvel rival fight st the end
>>538163837not really, it's a game you play for a while and go back to Dota. it's pretty obvious when you look at people jerking off to the very mediocre design of the characters here, they will get bored and go back to whatever games they've been playing before
>>538163837how can top down game like dota be exciting
>>538145903I think burst fire is very overrated. Yes people look at it and go "LOOK!!!! BETTER STATS!!!" but a 3s duration is honestly not that impressive when the cooldown is 6.>but duration+cooldown!!!how many carries want to commit all that money just to make this item more viable? Infernus wants duration sure but the othes? and then translucent cooldown??
>>538145615>no muscles>no fatGarbage art
the skill gap between archon/phantom games is fucking insane. I win way more because doing the things that lead to advantages actually lead to advantages in that MMR. in archon/low oracle you could legit buy like an entire minute of space and retards would rather jungle than push the walker that has a wave next to it.
