Frolicking edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>538086514
explain how the FUCK drifter is acceptable at this stateno I'm not salty because I lost, I played him and he's way too strong
>>538163747his gun feels like throwing sand at people so i guess that's enough of a tax to let him deal 3000 damage in three seconds
LE EBIN INFINITE SCALING STAT BALL VAMPIRE OF OUTSKILLING
>tesla rounds>mystic slowI'm an annoying sub-human
I tried Deadlock>Time to kill for most of the game is too long>Laning phase feels like the only thing that matters >No huge strategic gameplay past that like comebacks, etc>Team fights feel like marvel rivals >No big tense moments like in dota It’s ok but the pacing and strategy of the game feel weird Is this because I’m horrible and my elo is low or is this the game?
>>538164319>No huge strategic gameplay past that>Is this because I’m horrible and my elo is lowYes.The other criticism is acceptable.
It's a moba there's no such thing as a tense moment, the game is a stat check from start to finish
>>538163747>50% winrate in archon and abovehe's balanced
>>538164319fps/tps moba games have no potential, this game could never replace league/dota. Even if people say that's not true, they will go back to their game of choice in due time. There really isn't that much going on for this game, mobas without isometric view just dont have as much depth
>hero nerfed to shit tier>make new build>then the state mandated loss hits you
>>538164853>this game could never replace league/dotai mean i could see it happeningboth games are haemorrhaging playerspeople want something new
>>538164853dota lost, get over it
>>538165321>>538165472that's why the playercount before the update oscilated around 13k... stop lying to yourselves, the streamers came back and so did normalfags. The streamers will move on and so will the goycattle
baby ivy. next is seven, paradox
>>538164951Just what possibly was this build
>>538164853>>538165621Honestly anon for how far it is in development I think the game is fucking sick and will be really fun Wouldn’t be hard for them to improve comebacks and damage and make kills feel a little better Viola, solid game and I think what it does better than dota is it’s a lot less boring for most of the match, dota often feels like you can sleep for about half of jt
>>538165732She's so cool
>>538165732thanks doc
>>538165621>goycattle will move onnot when they institute the item economy
>>538164853>this game could never replace league/dotaAnd why should it? Deadlock should double down on things which make it different, like movement system and items, no need to go full shooter or full ASSFAGGOTS
>>538164853>no depthThe game has one of the best movement systems ever made and has a ton of verticality to it. The game isn't going to replace league but this is a retarded statement
>>538167295>but muh movementok
>>538167295We need more verticality and a severe buff to the movespeed along the way
>>538115136I try to go into these with a positive mindset, and sometimes it works>game where we're losing pretty badly>check itemization of teammates to see where problem is>Dynamo has built +range and +spirit but doesn't have any mobility items>advise him to sell the +spirit in favor of warp stone, calmly>tell him he should try counter-initiating instead of trying to initiate>he admits he's still new to dynamo and was using autoqueue>he does what I request>all of a sudden instead of 60 down we're 30 down>advise them on proper strategy stuff (push objectives when number advantage, stay safe when we don't)>suddenly everything begins clicking>we split push two walkers>force a teamfight at urn>dynamo gets a 5man ult>we easily take it>gold now about even>take mid boss instead of pushing straight down mid (like some were trying to do)>we easily push their base in as they fear the newfound dynamo>when they attempt to teamfight, Dynamo again gets a 4man ult>we push to win>dynamo thanks me, team congratulates dynamo, and big commends all aroundSometimes people don't even realize why they're losing, and they just need someone to guide them. A lot of the people going 0-14 is because they believe that the only thing they can do is try to get as many kills as possible to compensate, like you would do in other shooting games. I always try to tell them (gently) to stop dying and farm. Sometimes it works, and it's a good feeling when it does.
>>538167419>hurrr deadlock has no redeeming qualities that separate it from established properties>hurrrrr not counting the things that separate it from established properties that doesnt count hurrrr
>>538166621You're a fag for not reading, but you are still right, we should have something like that.
>>538167593The angel can be Doorman's arch enemy or rival The all powerful good vs his all powerful evil
>>538164853>>538167419I'm enjoying Deadlock and I'd never played a MOBA. Im interested in mechanical skill, I have zero interet in Gookclicking
I think I'm enjoying Pocket just because Leap is a really fun item
>>538163747Im maining Drifter and honestly its all very high risk - high reward. You will have games where you get totally shat on. Also I think he must have the chunkiest character model relative to how low his health actually is
>>538168019>gookclick>mobathanks for your post, I guess>>538167551are you retarded?
I don't understand retards who refuse to buy Restorative Bullet and/or Healing Rite in lane just to stand in the open eating shit constantly and feeding 7+ times in lane doing stupid shit they shouldn't be. But we won anyway cause said retards were at least smart enough to be tanky nuisances so Paige can pocket me and enable me into shredding their entire team. It's like TF2 all over again, Medic pocketing a Heavy into slowly steamrolling into a victory.
>>538167465>buff to movespeedno. we already have pre-canned escape routes for sweats to practice, there's no need to buff that playstyle. it'll just lead to more passive gameplay if escape is that easy.
>what if we copied every single retarded mechanic from dota dude?????fuck this retarded game and it's 5 year long stuns man
>>538168291Im 34 years old, I was there before MOBAs existed so Im cursed with knowing that they're just degenerated RTS for stupid people. Anything interesting about MOBAs works much better in a format like Deadlock, freed from limitations
>>538168626Stop zooming around being out of position, stop picking bad random fights. Retard.
>>538168931>stop picking bad random fightsbut anon thats my playstyle
>>538168931im more miffed about every single fucking item or character having a slow a stun a fucking shit fling
>>538168874>degenerated RTSdota doesn't have much in common with a full RTS desu, although I agree deadlock takes it all and kicks it up a notch or two
>>538169028Well get a new one, this isn't Call of Duty where you get to bullshit your way out of bad fights. It's MOBA first, shooter second.>>538169087MOBA first, shooter second. Go back to CoD/Apex if you wanna zoomzoom with impunity.
>>538169087just wait for the riot ripoff that removes all CCs except for 10% slow and an item system for kindergarten children
>>538169283>this isn't Call of Duty where you get to bullshit your way out of bad fightsim simply built different to you niggas
>>538168874what's funny is that you yourself said that you have no experience with mobas yet you still post as if you had some, how is it possible to lack any form of self-conciousness? Like do you not see how worthless talking about a subject you have no idea about is? Mobas originated from RTS games but the difference is EXACTLY THE LACK OF THE FUCKING GOOKCLICK. >Anything interesting about MOBAs works much better in a format like Deadlock, freed from limitationsnot even going to take this bait
>>538169365Evidently not since you can't adapt to, again, not being allowed to blatantly bullshit and spaz your way out of a bad fight.
>>538169453>not being allowed to blatantly bullshit and spaz your way out of a bad fight.but anon i am stunting on these crackers
why is it always the Infernus players blatantly cheating?
>>538169561Well this ain't the type of game for adderall abusers unless it's aim related. This is an aim game, not a schmovement game or whatever term fucking zoomers use for it.
>>538169673you're underestimating just how shmoove im moving
>>538167593And it better not be a play on the concept or reinvention, but a straight up winged warrior. Btw where is that pic from?
>>538169421Literally Gookclick for people who are too stupid to manage multiple units. You poor boy
>>538169673>Game has fucking infinite ammo slides and wall jump slopyeah shut the fuck up lMFAO this is 100% a crack addict game for zoomers
>>538169595For me it's usually the Holliday players going Gun Build that are cheating.
>>538169835>gets stunned, rooted, and kneecaps crushed by a slow>instantly die cause the only way you ever survive anything is by constantly moving in a game full of things that stop you from movingNot a movement game.
>>538169802too bad that you are still a retard despite your age, what else should I expect from /dlg/ though
>>538169283>this isn't Call of Duty where you get to bullshit your way out of bad fightsYou still can, just play doorman
>>538169283>MOBA first, shooter second.This is obviously not true, as otherwise they wouldn't have designed the game the way they did. Deadlock is never going to be DOTA 3 no matter how much you may wish for this to be the case
>>538170017>>gets stunned, rooted, and kneecaps crushed by a slow*pops debuff remover*
>>538165732baby
I'm starting to think hybrid melee gunman isn't a meme and is actually good>makes him an unpredictable lane bully>gives him sustain in longer fights and additional bulk>amps his burst
>>538170147>gets instantly re-slowed to a crawl by Mystic Slow/Slowing Bullets and ran down like the retarded dog he islol, lmao even.>>538170097It's a mix of both, obviously retard but it's clearly still leaning more on MOBA than it is shooter and still won't do hyper-movement shit like all these CoD zoomies want it to be.
What is supposed to make Mirage great exactly? I'm doing big damage with the mark stacks but compared to the damage I could be shitting playing literally anything else for less money I don't get it. I'm a slightly annoying poker in lane that's it.Here's the build I've been using.
>>538170358>and still won't do hyper-movement shit like all these CoD zoomies want it to be.Literally every deadlock match is full of people sliding around like crackheads like every CoD match ever you are so fucking wrong lmfao
>>538170065Bullshitting your way out using literal portals is different from breaking your keyboard trying to schmovement your way out of it like a monkey
if it was a moba first then the guns would be hitscan albeit.
>>538170368The way I play him is I play into the slow for putting marks on people with the first upgrade on his 3 by building for close range damage and move speed and bulk so that I can 1v1 people easily.So I get point blank, hunter's aura, weighted shots, backstabber, fleetfoot, siphon bullets, qsr on 3 as my core items. It makes me really good at chasing people down and killing them quickly. I dunno if that's the best way to play him or not though.
>>538170358>hyper-movement shit like all these CoD zoomies want it to be.It already has good movement. IDK what's meant by this
>enemy team has lash and dynamowhat's the point even
How does he do it?
>>538170837ooc garbage
mina should never be good make her dogshit again
Ivy is so fucking useless0 damage 0 good abilities
>>538170837I don't know.Billy even swapped to his lane so they could achieve MAXIMUM synergy
>>538170837on character gold
>retard teammate starts a fight when we have a wave to clear>starts raging when I get my creeps instead of helping himAll I care about is making the souls # go up dont blame me if you just start a fight without saying anything
doctor ginnis in town
>>538170649Some retards want MORE movement and less ways to limit movement.
>>538171451>59 minute game I would have fucking killed myself.
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>538170812You vill buy ze Unstoppable instead of more damage items and you VILL be happy.
>>538164853heh spoken like someone who has been defeated mentally
>>538171615i got nothing else to kill time with bro
>>538170837Fuck off
>>538164319TTK gets lower the longer the game goes on.laning is insignificant.you sound like you don't know what the word strategy means.idk what rivals is like.idk what you consider a tense moment.being dogshit, and disingenuously vague, well played!
>>538170837somewhat in character iron
>>538170837hot, Paige getting that necrodick
the community for this game is full of subhuman fucking niggers who don't deserve 10% of your effort you put into carrying their pathetic handicapped 70 iq goat fucking paki asses. just grief them. if valve refuses to provide a functional matchmaking service then check profiles and if any slav/shit skin is in your game just instantly lock in a rescue beam and start rescue beaming them into the entire enemy team on repeat for the rest of the match. throw in a majestic leap too.
>>538170812to separate the cattle from people that can think
>>538164853nobody is looking to replace league or dota. those games will be around until the end of time.not everything needs to be the same, you have dogshit taste and dogshit opinions.
Valve needs to add stuff we can buy once we're full build. I hit my full build with just 46k souls >>538168292 and I'm just stuck sitting there with 10k souls in my pocket not doing anything. Like how Dota has Moon Shard. Maybe an upgrade for utility items like Fleetfoot and Split Shot that make them permanently part of your hero and freeing up an item slot like the Aghs Blessing. Obviously things you only buy when you're full build cause obviously it just exists to free up a slot or to give a bit of extra stats.
you know, the lack of calico's in the wild and the fact that she has not been getting any new interactions with the old and new heroes makes me wonder if valve plans to scrap her or rework her into something elseher cat is more popular than her at this point
Why is this game so fucking snowbally
>>538171975You never had a chance with Victor, MinaHe won't do your gay little fashion shows when he's too busy making noise in Paige's library
>>538172427because drifter exists
>>538172267you are part if that group too, do us a favor and leave
>>538172346you replace all your dogshit t2 items with t4 items. you have 0-2 t4s if you're 12 slotted with 46k.
>>538171159ivy's ult was good and had a function and then they raped it 6 ways to sunday. same as her stoneform. can't heavy melee after a melee that would be oppressive. oh right fucking abrams does the same exact thing and there's no issue there. tethers just fucking unusably bad in lane. tether is on such a huge CD that it basically does nothing in lane. every other nigger in the game throwing 300 damage nukes at you every 10 seconds and your answer is 1) the most projected fucking grenade that does no upfront damage that they can just press dodge once to get out of2) the most projected fucking stun that does do upfront damage but if the enemy team aren't spamming shift like retards all lane they'll have the 1 stam it takes to just dodge that too. what a fucking dog shit hero. direly needs nerfs. 20% winrate in tournaments btw!!!
how limiting is a comms ban is exactly and what the actual fuck does the "highly competitive" switch actually do because it sure as doesnt feel like likeminded "people" if these scum can be called that
>>538170837>people are actually raging at this
>>538172346Maybe various different buffs that last for a duration or until you die that also progressively get more expensive so they're less of an expectation to have and more of a temporary spike in power to try and close out a game
>>538172267>be an animal>get thrown in a cagemust be everybody else that's the problem.
>>538172561nah I'm literally sending a smurf an invite and I'm going to just grief every nigger in this subhuman game to death. I was a good team mate. blame valve.
>>538172515even without drifter it's the same1 or 2 guys pull ahead and the game becomes a drawn out slog where only 1-4 people get to have fun out fucking 12maybe it's the dogshit non-existent matchmaking or the rampant cheating but damnis this game not fucking fun to play currently
>>538172761you're literally fucking alchemist like the rest of the retards in this thread don't even bother calling anyone else an animal. you're literally so fucking retarded that you're below subhuman 80 IQ alcoholic russians in a MOBA. imagine. kys faggot.
>>538172804that's a matchmaking issue.
>>538172804its for sure the matchmaking. its crazy the disparity in skill between teams are for some reason
>>538172703People here feeling cucked by Victor since they wanted to fuck Paige themselves
>>538172603There is no replacement for Fleetfoot so you can move with the fight and run niggers down. There's no replacement for Split Shot in terms of sheer literally unmissable AoE gun damage which can also be paired with Ricochet to just hose down entire teams at once. No reason to replace Intensifying Magazine either since it gives T3 item level damage and +max ammo.
btw feel free to drop your profile so it's proven. you won't though because you're a spineless cunt.
>>538172945>insane schizophrenic ramblingseverybody else is the problem though.
>>538172710Either that or just expensive, 1-time buffs similar to Moon Shard. 6400 souls for things like +20% Fire Rate, +15% Bullet/Spirit Lifesteal, etc. And maybe set a max set of said type of buffs, like maybe 3 consumable buffs max. Cause by then if you somehow made an extra 18k souls on top of your full build and STILL haven't finished the game, you should just be killed IRL for being so retarded.
>saturday evening>5 minute queues>not queueing new characters>funnydog.jpg
>every single time some retard blog posts in here it's literally bottom 10% rank as shown in their profile. and you're no different, look at you squirm and dodge posting your profile. you're just another shitter. keep trying to have opinions on ranks you'll never get to though. braindead pooprank shitter.
Is Paige's barrier for bullets only? Does if differ from Divine Barrier?
>>538173260>5 minute queues>still completely non functional matchmaking
>>538173402barriers are no longer divided in bullet or spirit
>Play Bebop>Don't go double bomb>Don't go gun>Still win somehowIt just werks.
>>538173551bravo valve
>>538172685might as well not play if you have a chat ban. the average player in this game is a mindless retard and if you can't tell them on the fly what to do in specific instructions they just flounder around the map doing nothing but BROOLING. if you solo queue you're pretty much always just playing into stacks and if you can't even half way emulate that by getting SOMEONE to coordinate with you on something then you're just fucked.
>>538173687I know, and I'm very happy about that. This is better than everyone having some recharging barrier all the time. I was just confused by the icon.
>>538173402this ability is so fucking cancer in laning phase
Just learned about the idea of a "tempo carry", which is someone who can carry through being able to farm and jungle fast and efficiently to have a higher amount of money than anyone else. Who do you think that applies to in deadlock? I can see seven being an obvious choice
>>538173904I know. I have decided to finally play Paige because I'm tired of playing against her.
>only one on my team who knows the little candle guys exist and you need to kill them to not lose objectives>enemy gets 4 rejuvs>victor is slowly dying in some jungle>i say "don't do a big team fight in random jungle they have 4 rejuvs">i continue pushing up waves instead of fighting>my entire team dies, obviously, and we lose>everyone at end of game calls me a useless noobGET ME OUT OF ALCHEMIST
>>538174254what if I told you that the exact same shit occurs at phantom and you should quit the game because this is pointless bullshit and I'm about to
>>538172329I meant that nobody would drop league/dota for deadlock, braindead retard
>>538174523i did
>>538174523I dropped League for this so your argument is invalid
>>538173079I honestly wish they'd just globally nerf everyones move speed proportional to how much they have, so less ms, less nerfed or not at all. then just give everyone fleetfoot passive. it's dog shit you have to waste an active on that shit.
>>538174523I did
>>538172561>ESL retard who can't type seething at being called outKEK
>>538174523It got me off the dota grind for the time being. If it keeps going in a good direction I could see myself sticking around
Honestly, my favorite thing about Deadlock is how losing in lane is not the end of the world no matter how hard you get raped. Though admittedly it is hard to judge whether it is worth joining the fight or not, but I do like how running towards a huge clash is easy since everyone moves so fast so the decision to just run there means you will catch up to the fight anyway.
>>538174801>1k more hours than me on dota>500 more hours than me on deadlockdamn
>>538174523i took a break from dota for this. maybe i'll fuck off back there in 2-3 years but i'll have fun while i'm here
>>538174801you just replaced one dog shit torture game with another. big whoop.
>>538174523I dropped both of these before Deadlock came out.
>>538174523I dropped dota for deadlock.
>>538174523>nobody would drop league/dota for deadlockGod I hope not. Containment games for complete spastics
>>538174523You do realize that a huge chunk of the current playerbase are former dotards and leaguebabs right? People on here continue to beg for their favorite doto heroes to get ported to the game one way or another. Where the fuck is my Ember spirit Yoshi?
>>538174695Everyone getting Fleetfoot passive for FREE would be cancer even with less movement speed. There's a reason why they basically took it away from Ivy.
>>538174523Why wouldn't they? Deadlock is literally an evolution of the moba format. Not just because it's 3D but even a lot of the mechanics and how the items work and all that are a refinement or evolution of what came before. A lot of mechanics are different (for the better) and most are made to work in a 3D environment. The game is new so there is generally less knowledge stuff to learn making it easier to get into + there is the attraction of a game being new and there being things to discover and seeing it get updated in real time.
>>538172603I WILL however concede I should probably be dropping Slowing Bullets with Point Blank, cause by the time I'm full build I'm so strong I am just running at people at close range with all my shit active that I am in range for Point Blank's damage bonus + move speed slow effects anyway. But it doesn't change the fact that I'm still sitting there with another whole 6400 tier item worth of souls and nothing to do with it.
Magic Carpet is not as garbage as I thought it would be...
Did billy get a buff? I got him while hoping to play seven, and yet I got matched up against a seven ironically enough. Holy shit this guy is so busted if you just don't melee and focus on gun, I was melting people so fast with zero counterplay. The seven ended up going 0/10 poor bastard. Nearly all deaths to me too.
>>538172603The majority of the best T2s don't have T3/4 upgrades and give enough value that it's really hard to sell them.
am i just retarded or does viktor suck fucking asshis aura does more damage to himself than the enemy
>>538176143don't even fucking touch that ability until you have spirit resilience
>>538174523I'll only return to Dota if they add an arcana for Mireska
>>538165732She cute
>>538167483I wish that I had a friend who knew these things and could help me ingame.I like the game in many ways but my gamesense is so, so bad.
>>538176381I gotta love when someone stans their girl enough to know their actual namefor me, it's Lanaya
>>538176564Everything I learned about the strategy behind this game I learned from Dota, and not even playing it well - just watching it. The Internationals are currently on, try giving it a watch.
>ivy>gun build>opens microphone>failed male voice comes outwhy is this so common?
>>538176564A lot of it is just building good habits>Push waves above all else usually>Farm jungle>Take resources>Resume wave pushAd infinitumHonestly kills aren't even *that* worth it pre 20 minutes, I will usually focus farm instead of retarded teamfights.
>>538176716Hmm... no.
>>538174523I stand by my previous statement.you have dogshit taste and dogshit opinions.
>>538176802Because your rank is low lmao gottem
i hate seven, i hate when he is on my team, i hate when he is on the enemy team, i hate when we lose with or against a seven and i hate when we win against or with a seven in our team
>>538176657I miss the stackable mid camps
>solo threw a game at 40 mins inhad to stop playing, too embarrassed
>McGinnis at max level with just 1 Green item has ~3k HP>shit like Wraith, Seven and Infernus with that same set up only hit like ~2500 HP or soShe truly is just the Heavy but better, huh? Mildly beefy, runs you down with a giant machine gun that never stops fucking shooting, pain in the ass to kill if getting pocketed by some kind of support or played around in general.
how would you fix snowballing?
>>538177158she sucks and has 0 impact on the outcome of a game.
>>538177187you don't, stupid
>>538177187Counter it, you mean? Its called teamwork.
>>538176802>failed malehow would you know what that sounds like unless you were one
>>538177187there's no gold loss on death just stop being a fat retard and turn on your monitor.
>>538177187You fix it by working with your team to regroup and win a team fight together
>>538177229>t. turret/support cuckJust build around her gun. Her turrets suck, her rocket barrage gets cucked by geometry harder than Bebop's ult does, every other support in the game supports better than she does. At this point the only way to play her IS to build around her gun.
>>538177187Why would I want games to drag out longer artificially by kneecapping snowballs?
>>538177327>takes one to know oneno. it doesn't.
>>538177428>just use your aimlabs broyou can do that with any character. doesn't make them a good character. you're winning because of aimlabs, not the character.
>>538177187Just stop feeding, retard.>buh muh teammates!But it's totally fine when YOU run the game by getting the fed and snowballing and all the non-feeders on the enemy team are powerless to stop you, right? No one likes having their early lead made irrelevant cause you basically gain zero benefit from actually winning lane/playing the mid-game properly.
I have been seeing a lot more gun Paige now and holy fuck is she annoying.
>>538176912>ask for help>get it>"no"ok lolbab lmao
>>538177187There's snowballing?You can die like 3-5 times during the laning phase and still winIn every moba that would usually result in a loss or you being useless and a non-character.
How long does rank decay take to start working? I feel like im getting put in games way above my skill level and I keep getting shit on. I Want to take a short brake so I hopefully move down a couple ranks.
>>538177187won several games we were 30 - 40k souls behind because of catchup mechanics even with them taking midboss before pushing into weakened patron because of how strong our pit fight was.
victor is brokenantiheal does nothing
>>538177710>AimlabsIt's called Split Shot. You literally can't miss with this shit. If you somehow miss your entire magazine while spraying with Split Shot you should probably be euthanized for the good of the human gene pool.
>>538176802Don't call me that, it turns me on.
I'm so glad this game doesn't have buyback or glyph.
>>538177428>Play McGunness>Active Reaload, Titanic Magazine, Tesla Bullets>Stay in one lane>Left click minions and objectives>WinIt really is that easy huh...
>>538178080Not the build I would use but you're free to play McGunness in whatever way gets (You) results.
>>538177886>>538176143Make up your minds
>>538176143he went from being okay after the first nerfs of nerfs to being genuinely bad after the nerfs a couple days ago
>>538178192victor bad. only wins in the lowest of mmr.
>>538178191What do you build usually?
>>538178320This. Third category is a 'pick one' situation where your 12th item is purely situational based on what the problem in the current match is. Either that or you just pick up Berserker/Hollow Point/Glass Cannon and keep shredding people because nobody is problematic enough to warrant something like Juggernaut, Anti-Heal or Silencer.
>>538177187>team pulls ahead and winswhy is this a bad thing again?
>>538169595for me its haze
>>538177395it's not me that's feeding retard
>>538177763>You can die like 3-5 times during the laning phase and still winnot if the enemy team is competent
>>538178537>cooldown/durationof all the spirit items you could get, why these for a mcgunnis biuld wtf
>>538178320>>538178537Oh right, and sell Slowing Bullets for Point Blank later on.
>>538178978Split Shot and Burst Fire uptime. Transcendent Cooldown and Extra Duration affect your items AND your Medicinal Specter. Turns Split Shot's 10 second downtime into a 3 second downtime. Burst Fire is basically always active whenever you're shooting enemies. Also better Vampiric Burst uptime so it's harder to kill you.
>many months of break>drop to initiate 1nigga...>win 4 games>initiate 2nigga.........
why is aiming on vindicta so hard?bullet velocity? still hard when you get the bullet vel item
>>538178978>>538179138It seriously helps.
i get that this dogshit fucking game is an """alpha"""but why the fuck are retarded nigger heroes like seven and drifter allowed to exist
>>538178548why do games go 30m then when the outcome is determined after 10?
>>538180005If you get your ass handed to you so hard that it's unwinnable after ten minutes then you deserve to be humiliated.
am I just being tricked by animations or does mina seem to bhop better then the average hero?
>>538179836>it turns a 25 second Vampiric Burst downtime, cuts 10 seconds of it off and turns into a ~15 second downtimeThat's cancer. Imagine if VB also dispelled like Satanic. That shit would be AIDS to put up with.
>>538172145In what way is laning insignificant?
>>538180005>when the outcome is determined after 10this isn't even remotely true
>>538179886settle down, okay?
>>538179886>he has issues with SevenCan't relate. Drifter's the real problem child of the two.
what did mina ask the door man to do for her?
Forgot to mention that McNigger is also a broken hero for faggots
>enemy team commends me after I've done 20k player damage under the team average and been the least impactful of the gameSuch a nice community. I commended them back.
I must say, Paige is quite fun. Playing support is awesome since you don't have to be the one doing the work, you just have to help someone more competent. And she is a fucking menace in lane, holy shit.
they should add an item that kills and rapes dynamos wife for 20sec on a 30sec cooldown and you can use it globally
>>538180945How did Mina become the character all the women self-insert as?
>>538180975Don't even joke like that.
>>538180303yes it isEvery game my team has some 1/10 faggot vs 10/0 infernus or seven post lane and then I'm supposed to act like the game is still winnable
>Full build Gun ivy>still do 0 fucking damage even when I clip dump them>check their items>they don't even have armor or bullet resebin
>>538179138>>538179836duly fucking noted
>>538170368he feels kinda ass lately, unless you get to late game with all your weapon items but then almost anybody would be good in that position
It took me some 10 months of procrastinating but I'm finally out of low priority queue. Praise God.I only needed to win 1 game btw
>>538181306>kills and rapesIn that specific order?
>>538178980I know how they could fix McGinnis. She's very close to fuckable, but her neck needs to be slightly tinner, her hair needs to be down, and her muscles need to be more defined. Also bigger boobs maybe
>>538181363Women will do anything to avoid being pickmes except actually being honest with themselves. They insert with Mina because Paige is too obviously made to pander to men.
>>538182826mina is the e-girl characterpaige is the yumejo character
>>538181363>hot>selfish vapid whore>will stay hot forever and will never hit the wallWho knows
>>538182441are you gonna be a good goy and not say mean words?
>>538182947Yumejoshi absolutely identify with Mina more.
>ivy + mina vs billy + bebopoh this is going to be a real fucking fun lane! thanks matchmaking
>>538182441So after 10 months and two games where I have a K:D of 10 to 1, the game puts me on fucking Arcanist 4. My alt was Ritualist 6 at first and then as I won more games I was put on Ritualist 1. Both accounts have a 60% winrate. How, even?Also I used to be Archon 6 back then.
why does nobody play gay talon anymore?
>>538183439why would you when you can play billy and be an even more overpowered lane bully
>kill Lash as Billy>"So you think you're so great because you've got a body chiseled like a greek god and a sexy moustache?"I swear I am not making this up. He said this verbatim. Why did no one ever tell me Billy is unironically a homo?
>>538183234i'm not sure which side is supposed to suffer here
>>538183590>homobilly fucks viper
>>538183590He's just jealous that Vyper likes Lash more
>>538183626The side that actually has kill potential in lane you retard
>>538182670>muscles>but also thinner neckThat's not how body building works retard.
>>538178192victor is awful, I have to take him out of rotation or picking him is throwing. his aura does too much damage to himself even with stacking spirit res. hyper farm victor takes too long to turn online, his regular match tempo is horrendous. I've tried other builds on him (melee, more gun with berserker and a t1) and you trade away with a slightly better early game for being completely worthless.
>>538174523I dropped dota fucking aaaaaaages agoNow that deadlock exists I will NEVER EVER go back to that trash game
>>538183812You don't have to kill in lane
>>538183997If you want to have an impact on the game you doOr else the lane that did get kills just rapes you
>>538183831unless ginnis is doing neck or trap workouts, she is likely to have a thinner neck.
>>538184136Completely incorrect
>>538174523Dotard switching crack for bath salts reporting in
>>538183590Nah he's just seething because Vyper likes Lash more.
>>538182947Paige seems to be meant to be the yumejo character but Mina is the one women actually self-insert as, which is the point of >>538181363 this question
Give me a good Drifter build.
I'm glad to have finally ended up on the other side of a stomp, but I feel bad for the enemy team. We raped them so hard in lane.
Where do I rebind the voice chat button? It's not in the keybind menu
I kinda wanna try out a higher skill cap character after playing so many McGinnis games. Which one should I go for? Not necessarily to main but more of a palette cleanser.
>>538172427because you are retarded and don't know how to farm or build your hero properly.
>Get assraped in lane and the guardian's gone>Do the usual sidelane farming to catch up>Notice our Drifter is hovering near me so on a whim I decided to walk towards him>Ended up being a great decision and help him kill 3 people who jumped him>Game snowballs hard in our favor from then onSometimes you gotta drop the farming if your gut tells you to.
>>538183590Proof also. I was shockedhttps://files.catbox.moe/dqn6cl.mp4
>Fuck you for getting assassinated Arin, you ruined my life!The fuck is Mina's problem?
>>538184984It's in the audio menu
>>538185662billy's not gay, it's supposed to be an ironic punk putdown of lash (but just ends up praising him). billy's the type of person to shit on bodybuilders but be jelly like certain dyels on /fit/
>>538183590>Billy is unironically a homo?He's up to fucking with Viper so at most he's bisexual. Honestly you could interpet it as less him being gay and more him being envious of lash having a normal, handsome face while he's stuck with a goat face abomination.
>drifter gets shit on early>every time this motherfucker manages to claw himself back with his retarded nigger kitepic
mcginnis needs to be nerfedno im not joking
>>538184205Completely factual
>deal more damage than mina as a support kelvinthey need to add bans to this game so I can perma-ban that bitch from ever getting on my team again
>>538186618Mina's easy, just ult objectives
This game is destined for obscurity and failure because it has 0 appeal to anyone other than profags and people who are deluded enough to think they can become profagsIt's not fun to just play.
how do you fix spirit pocket
>>538183590you are a woman.
>>538185914I doubt that. Another voiceline of his is "I could look like him if I went to the gym". I think the guy with the bat swings both ways.
>>538187175you dont, play gun instead
>>538188151gun builds are unfun
>>538183590you will never be a woman.
>>538188260you can't aim
I unironically ragequitted last night against a Bebop and now Im on low priority penalty
>>538185581pretty much any time i have a drifter on my team i make it my mission to follow him around like a duckling and make sure he gets stacks
the dogshit matchmaking is making the game unfun bros.
>>538179157You have to ever so slightly lead your shots on most heroes in the game, vindicta's bullets are just extra wonk
WHY AM I RECOGNIZING NAMES IN RITUALIST 4
>>538186254Why would nerfing a broken hero be a joke
>>538188416>rage quitting instead of building reactive barrier or debuff remover like a normal personthis is a learning moment anon
>>538188341neither can 95% of people who play shooting games, your point?There's literally 1 game that has any relevance that isn't dominated by aim assist and it's not deadlock lmfao
>>538188556fuck dat shit bruhgonna build splitshot n' fuck deez niggas UP
>>538184728Yeah, just lost another game with mina having 10+ deaths and like 5-6 kils, cool hero ty Icefrog
>>538188151what's the gun pocket build?also i played him for like 30 matches and he isn't THAT bad at least in my brown rank games but I guess every character except supports are fine here if you just know macro
>>538183590https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/characters/billy/This is legit. Billy is clearly envious of Lash's physique. But to be fair, who isn't? Abrams, probably.
>>538187175What's broken exactly?
>try to harass Victor in lane>he pops jumpstart and battery and instantly recovers any damage i dealt to him + hits me with a 300 damage ability with no cooldown>as soon as he gets his ult lane is lost because there is nothing you can do to stop him from taking toweri thought he was supposed to have a weak early game?
>redditards and lolbabs pitching about drifter>meanwhile a fed Billy has fucking 8 health bars during any engagement and decay does nothing because he just gets more max healthalso people dont realize that aoe is where you get pulled to, not the max range of the pull so he can easily pull you under guardian early with any cc
>>538188986i just spam souls into titan mag, cq, glass cannon, vamp burst and split shot. those are like the most important. if you are playing against people without the f key run melee charge as well, otherwise whatever suits your needs
>>538189057what was the actual lane matchup?jumpstart sucks ass early game so it sounds like you were just getting out traded.
>>538189057battery has a big aoe but dog shirt range, his aura has terrible range too. If he misses 2 batteries in a row he is gonna die and if he dies with his aura up silence or cc as soon as he rezes and dont stand in the aura and he literally blows his own rotten dick off.
>>538188849what?
mcginnis is still busted and braindead
abrams feels fucking awful to paly good god
>>538189505>jumpstart sucks ass early gamethis is with improved spirit and extra charge, that is nearly as much as a healing rite on 1/3rd the cd and with 3 charges, tell me again how it sucks ass
>>538189567Aside from CSGO every FPS game that is relevant has aim assist up the ass because nobody can aim
>>538189773hes a victim of people getting better at the game after his charge combo was nerfed. He upt is still strong for stealing midboss, and maybe if they change that he'll be given more buffs.
>bring back 4 lanes pls>bring back 4 lanes pls>bring back 4 lanes pls>bring back 4 lanes pls>bring back 4 lanes pls>bring back old vindicta face now>bring back 4 lanes pls>bring back 4 lanes pls>bring back 4 lanes pls
>>538188416Deserved
>>538189935oh yeah -200hp for +222 now i truly see
>>538189935it also deals damage to himself you know
>>538183590Millenial writing garbage, same with the entirety of Paige dialogue
my beautiful crime princess <333
>>538183590no, he is just a loser angry and envious of everyone
>played 10 games>at min 5, my team was ahead in souls a total of ZERO (0) times>10 times in a row, the enemy was better>I was always either the 1st, or 2nd in my team in souls except one game with a bad lane>two abandons, both on my team, both scoredWhy the FUCK is the matchmaker like this HOLY FUCKING SHIT NIGGER
>>538190154even if you use it at max health at 2400 souls, it would be 120 something damage, but nobody is using it at full health you disingenuous retard>>538190238Okay, lets say he has taken 1/3rd of his hp at 2400 souls. He'll lose 70 hp and gain 222, a net gain of 152. Still on a 22 second cooldown, still with multiple charges and giving him a speed boost. For comparison, Kelvin's grenade will heal 140 with the same items and boons.
>>538177187>how would you fix snowballing?If one team falls more than 15k behind, everyone on that team is given free Majestic Leap and Shadow Weave which can be used every 14 seconds until the game ends
>>538190378can't wait for all the the horny weebs to start feeding on yamato
>>538190478>140x2 because they also heal your teammate
>>538189773Well, thats what you get after have all CDs and movespeed stats nerfed and no charge and ult bugs fixed. His ult and passive need to be reworked into something useful, but then he stays top tier anyway and keeps getting nerfed so who knows.
>Kills are worth less souls before the first guardian fallsthere, I fixed snowballing
>>538190678that would turn early lanes into farmville
>>538177187Add a soul bounty to those getting all the kills on the enemy team.
>>538190867>still no meido heroshit game
>>538190867they already are because restorative shot exists and is OP as shit
>>538190563Okay, so it does 280. If Victor uses it at an even lower hp, he could get close to 200 hp gained. Almost as much as a support focused hero hitting TWO people with his healing nade. Still looks like he's overtuned lol.
I don't know what the fuck happened but my last 2 matches feel like I'm playing in lobbies 3 ranks higher than what it's been putting me in, but the team rating is showing the same.
>>538191013>he's actually expecting a maidThe damage that Mina and Paige have done to people's expectations cannot be overstated
>playing Mina>teammate keeps killing creeps right before I can rake them>we lose lane>complains about lane being unwinnable
>>538191064>already areyou aren't playing>restoyou definitely aren't playing
>>538191153did you ask for them to not do that, one of the most important things in lane early on is killing creeps quickly
>>538191126I want a fairy
>>538191126you're right they're more likely to add nother DEI mandated negro
>>538191187ayo this nigga can't land a shot every 6 seconds, everybody laugh at him
>>538191126they didn't change expectations, they attracted the wrong crowdgachagooners and such
Oh boy I sure love popping off only to lose anyway cause 3 of the swarthiest, retarded, oxygen thieving triple gorillaniggers on the planet ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to stop trying to take fights out in the middle of Broadway just to get pincered from 20 different directions and single handedly threw the game for the rest of us who actually wanted to fucking win.
>>538191234>nother DEI mandated negroI think the niggers in this game all look pretty cool
been playing gun pocket recentlycall him... glocket
>>538191424yeah thats what everyone does
>>538191234Honestly if it gatekeeps the gooners then I'll take it
WHERE THE FUCK DO PEOPLE GET ALL THIS FARM??!! Yes im a low tier shitter and im tired of doing what i tihink is good and looking up only to see im 10k souls behind! Is there some secret farm area i dont know about wtf!!??
>>538190478multiple charges don't matter because if you're keeping pressure on him he's going to be using it on cooldown.if he's low HP and using it optimally AND using the movespeed to aggress on you, you should just kill him because he's already low HP.you're trying your hardest to make a big deal out of an average skill.
>>538191540they're farming your team
>>538191540Cultist's Sacrifice, unironically. You use it on one of the big jungle creeps and get their bounty + 150% bonus souls on top of that. You do that off cooldown until you eventually have to sell it for your 10th - 12th items. Either that or this >>538191665
>>538191540be a lane janny, grab crates and vending machines between waves and you'll be surprised how far ahead you gethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kdsGuncqSE
>Build glass cannon>My team takes all the kills so I have 0 stacks
stop fucking pausing a the start of every match
>>538191754didn't click and reported it so it gets less tracktion and downvoted
>>538191540if you are farming as in hitting neutrals you are doing it wrongi lane janny and end up with the same networth as the fed retard and the permajungle monkey
>>538190559been feeding on ayy yamato since september '24
>>538191939Grabbing jungle camps when the lanes are pushed is what you should be doing, retard.
>>538191925NYOOOOOO
comeback from one year hiatus going great!
is radiant regen still worth it on every viktor game?
>>538191234We need a Blade-like hero since there are 2 vamps in the game
>>538191614are you playing against shitters that can't aim or something, battery does more damage than any ability in the game at that point, and his gun is more than capable of trading with pretty much anyone. even if you're playing yamato and hitting him with a fully charged powerslash on cooldown (you won't) he will still out damage you with battery and outheal your slashes with jumpstart
>>538191394Except Calico>>538191540Push lanes jungletard
>>538191830Either that or you die every 2-3 kills and just lose all the stacks despite eventually winning in the end to the point you would have been better off just buying Berserker or something. I basically don't ever buy Glass Cannon at this point cause assists don't count towards stacks like Siphon Bullets do if you tag somebody with the debuff or you buy it and can't go on the 10+ killstreak needed to make it a worthwhile purchase.
>>538192367radiant regen isnt worth it period on victor, it's one of the worst 3200 items in the game desu
vindicta's ult is IMPOSSIBLE to land.it's so SLOW and CLUNKY and i HATE ITand on the small chance you do hit it it it TICKLES them!
>>538193127It's one of the few hitscan abilities in the game anon... it should be one of the easiest to land...
Is there a point to Abrams now that Billy and Victor exist?
>>538193329i still prefer blue hellboy
>sit through two miserable stomps>go into the third game>up against a mina yamato lane>perpetually on 250 hp>behind almost 2k in souls by minute 4>abandon match after the guardian sits on half health by 5 minutes and there's absolutely nothing I can do about itI will not sit through a third miserable game. I value my time far more than to waste another 40 minutes on what is clearly going to be a dreary and unfun match. Fix your fucking matchmaking.
>>538193528Matchmaking can't fix your shitty attitude
>>538193329billy is not bluevictor is not blue
>>538193528If you want to play against worse players, you have to lose games.
>>538193528boo hoo you big fucking baby
>>538193869I want to play against players who appear to be on my skill level, not either brainless mouthbreathers of 50,000 hour moba professionals who bend the game over the table
Anyone else getting random instances of freezing during a game sometimes?
>>538192762if we're going with hypotheticals where everyone has perfect aim and lands every attack then vindicta is the best character in the game. battery shoots slow projectiles and it's fairly easy to predict when he's going to use it because he walks up close to you to try and shotgun you with all the projectiles.also why does it matter that yamato of all characters can't out-trade victor in a perfect aim scenario?i'm pretty sure she actually does too, if you're landing every power slash on cooldown because you can throw like two of those out every time victor gets to jumpstart once and two power slashes definitely does more damage than 200 healing.victor is one of the WORST laners in the game, he has to already be losing his lane to get value out of his "overpowered healing skill".you still haven't posted what your lane matchup was against him either.
It’s not about winningIt’s about making the game as unfun as possible for the enemy team
so is there just no counter for billy or drifter???
>>538194526This is why Echo Shard is one of the funnest items
Oh no, not the lane of Ice and Fire.
>>538194629just parry bro maybe even search for melee resist or buy rebuttal nigger
split shot paige is a mistakecan 1v5 for free, it's fucked up
>>538177187Spam [Stick Together]
>>538194693if the enemy lets you get away with this they deserve it
>>538193329More like what is the point of shoulder charge does the same from distance?
>>538194629Knockdown is always good
>>538194680It's genuine cancer. If kelvin starts with beam, infernus can start getting passive procs from level 1. t: Kelvin "main"
>>538193329He is the sexiest>>538194526>t. McGinnis
>die inside doorman's ult>tells me to enjoy my stay>with demons who are addicted to substance abuseDon't mind if I do as long as I'm fucking big titty succubi.
>>538194691ok let me be specific WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO VS A GOOD BILLY WHO ISNT JUST THROWING HEAVYS????
I'm convinced the inspiration for Doorman came from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntf5_ue2LzwMainly due to Doormans comments about how he enjoys the observe humans and how his "hotel" is some crazy dimensional hell. Just thought I'd share.
rumours say that deadlock will release something during TI final but they arent sure if it will be done live or posted online after artifacts reception when they announced it
FOR THE DJINN
>>538195281there was a hero concept on the forums that was pretty similar. although valve's interpretation is much, much better.
>>538195585I wish Mirage wasn't both boring as shit and not very good because his lines are great.
>>538194952one pushes them away, the other gives a guaranteed heavy melee to the brawler tank.
>>538195585>Nashalah...forgive me...I have to go all out this one time>teleports to where you were 5 seconds ago>teleports in front of you covered in sand>doesn't kill you
>>538195737they should have gone all-in on making him a splitpushing menacemake his scarabs into units that run down a lane and make his ult able to teleport anywhere
>>538195737I think he's fun to play.
Hi, Billy.
>>538195103It wasn't bad at all since Infernus switched with Haze and I was playing Paige, so I barely fought and just buffed Victor. Man, I love playing as Paige.
>>538170368>Laning>mystic regen in optional>FUCKING QSR IN OPTIONAL>Opening rounds and improved spirit on fucking mirage>Spiritual "Core">Boundless on fucking mirageholy shit what an aggressively dogshit build, no wonder you think this braindead character is bad.
>>538195915this game NEEDS a character like thisfuck brooltards
>>538195585RGAHHHHHG
Why won't they just nerf Seven? He's been top tier since the literal launch of the game
>>538195656I do like the idea that perhaps he's a far greater entity, perhaps godlike. If his wish from the patron is to restore the hotel, why is he inviting people to it constantly? I think he is here just because he can and wants to observe humans. I haven't read the damn backstories but the idea is fun. He's intelligent and sophisticated and I love his voice lines.
Anyone have Shallow God's geist build?? Otherwise I just want one in general.
haven't played in a year, how exactly does last hitting/denying work now? I know they made it less required but I still see orbs popping outta creeps and I still get money for shooting them
>>538174523literally me and my 3 stack.we all hard quit league after playing Deadlock.
>>538196392the only thing they changed is now if a minion dies near you and you didnt last hit it you get the full value as long as you dont get deniedso basically no real change
>HEY TEAM I'M RUNNING URN JUST PLAY IT SAFE>Team starts a fight on top of their walker and now we lose the gameeveryfuckingtime
>it's a 'team is either feeding like retarded apes in retarded fights they shouldn't be taking or are just perma jungling like niggers just to be down 10k souls behind both myself and the entire enemy team' episodeIt's either this or we have 3-4 retards perma brooling on mid just to die 10+ times each with no in between. Can we get a fucking new episode?
>>538196445oh, the image didn't attach.League is dogshit and Deadlock is objectively superior in every single aspect.
>>538196392souls pop out even if you don't last hitdeniers have a massive disadvantage when attempting to deny, souls become claimable to you much earlier than it becomes actually deniable by the enemy.that's it.
YOU CAN'T TAKE BROOLING AWAY FROM ME
>>538196893i fucking love to brool
>>538196131There is a good spot near the blue walker for supporting your team while pushing.
fighting someone over nothing in the middle of nowhere is deadlock at its best
what are people building on viktor when the enemy team wont kinfly just stay inside your aura
>>538196992christ paige players are some of the most useless creatures i have ever seen.the fact you thought this was useful, let alone impressive enough to record is sad.
>>538196992>>538197318wow you weren't kidding that is a pathetic webm
>>538195580Why the fuck would they show off Deadlock there? Shit's already fucking practically out there, we just got a big update, actual leaker says beta is next year. You're literally just making stuff up, faggot.
>>538197182Phantom strike gets kills on any character
Making fun of new players is beyond cringeBut if it's a newfaggot on Paige?then it's based.
>shiv is in every match againNO NO NO NO
>>538197834stickin em...
>>538196360zeno geist
>>538197834>and he's still shit
>The 2 Hopoo heroes (Sinclair and Vyper) are one of the worst heroes in the game and unfinished as fuck.Will they get new abilities when they get their new models? I like their concepts but they don't feel complete yet.Fix Sinclair's 1 bug, replace his ult with something else, and replace Vyper's 1 and ult with something else, and tweak the numbers on the rest and they should be good now. Also, the model for Vyper looks good, and Sinclair... There is a fan mod that is excellent and probably will not be topped by the final Valve rendition, see pic related.
>>538196992Paige was a mistake
>>538196992Tbh Useful if more stuff is going on there
>>538198084holy shit thats ugly
>7 minutes in>won lane>behind 10k soulsthank you icefrog for giving me a challenge unlike any other, i will do my best
>>538198084this is better
>>538195585RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>look up at timer >see thiswhat do
>>538195585https://gamebanana.com/sounds/81695Mandatory mod
>>538182670Define "fix" because I like this current McGinnis design. She's peak drinking buddy while she rambles about machines. The character you're describing is more akin to the new tank Marvel Rivals just added.
>>538196992Holy fuck this webm is infuriating. Why do paiges in low (and my) mmr have zero idea how to use their ult? This guy just randomly used their global 140 cooldown ult to heal nobody that was in danger and do measley damage to an unwinnable fight under tower
>>538197554>Why the fuck would they show off Deadlock there?why would they formally announce and present a trailer for their upcoming gme in one of their biggest events? i dont know you tell mewhere else would it be presented, at the vga? dont mke me laughunless you think they would just not do anything for whatever reason
>>538198575because support trannies are always retarded, no matter the game.if that retard was on something like Lash or Bebop he'd be forced to actually participate in the game instead of sitting in the cuck chair.these types of "people" shouldn't be catered to.
>>538198084I love sinclair's ult also that model looks like dogsghit
>>538198348This is amazing, where is this from?
>>538180975I had a match today where a warden tried saying mcginnis was dogshit and we shouldn't be afraid to push her. Absolutely baffled me. Guess who lost horribly as we were never able to establish any solid lane pressure while the mcginnis had a million OBJ damage and was always farmed ahead of anyone else on my team? I told him when he first tried to downplay mcginnis that the only reason people think she is bad is because they've only fought against bad mikus and this is true. I've seen a LOT of bad mcginnis both on my team and against them. There is literally no reason why you should ever lose a lane while playing that character unless your lane partner dies and a 3rd person comes to push. Absolutely busted cancer character.
Valve should be bullied into making singleplayer games and singleplayer games alone.
>>538197318Steam automatically record all the games I play through it (only the latest 2 hours), and I exported and posted this clip because I had fun. Could you explain why I wasn't useful? I clearly helped with some kills.>>538198575I agree, I could do a better job with Paige's ult. I should try sending it to a distant fight sometime.
>>538198825shut the fuck up cracker
>>538198749Kirill Senzu on twitter
Artfag here. Not enough McGinnis, Paradox nor Holiday art. Make requests. The funnier the better. I also accept NSFW but only suggestive.
nigfernus haha NIG!!!! NIGGER!!!!!!!
>>538198932>I also accept NSFW but only suggestive.Miku tastefully taking off her work clothes after a hard day of smashing metal bits together. A bit toned, a bit sweaty, not too much.
>>538198825you're getting your half-life 3 before 2030, give it a rest grandpa
guys i got friggin stuck below the stairs and can't search for game now
>>538198575Also,>unwinnable fightWe took down the walker about a minute after the clip.
>>538198854>Could you explain why I wasn't useful?God, where to begin.1. you're not hitting walker2. YOU'RE NOT HITTING WALKERget in fucking range so your 1 can hit walker.3. why are you pulling with rescue beam when he isn't in danger? you're just trolling him.4. why are you using rescue beam out of combat and not saving it for when someone is in danger?5. you not being any where near the walker means they do not need to be afraid of you and gives them ample time to react to your ult at that range.6. enemies around the bend would be completely safe from you since you're AFK on high ground and not near walker so you could dash, throw a 1 and then run back out but instead you're afk on high ground in the cuck chair.
>>538198854you're playing like a girl you need to get in there and help the team and push, you don't damage the walker if you're too far
>>538199272type noclip into console and just fly out. cheats work in the lobby.>ermm how do I- enable console retard, in the settings. then hit f6/f7 or whatever shit keybind they have it on and type noclip.
>>538189505You use jumpstart to charge battery for free.Also something people don't talk about/realize is that while jumpstart does deal damage to you (which is good for charging battery) it deals non-lethal damage and if you're in a situation where your health is below 15% of your max health, you're getting "bonus" heals since it can't take away anymore health. He can be very strong in the lane, especially when battery does so much damage.
is gun holiday a thing?
>>538199340>3. why are you pulling with rescue beam when he isn't in danger? you're just trolling him.Oh, damn, I didn't notice that I pulled him. I just wanted to heal him.
>>538199709i mean yeah but whyboth of her other builds are so much better
>>538196267he's basically playing Sim Hotel and patron wish is a sort of cheat code/legendary bonus for it.
>>538199661anon it takes 15% of current hp not max hp
>>538199949NTA, but not building gun for an obviously gun oriented hero doesn't feel right.
>>538199949both?
>>538198519but is she fuck buddy? not really
>>538191234if it keeps gooner tranny predators like yourself out? fuck it, sure.
>>538198449There's nothing you can do. He's already full build and bending you over.
>>538200187why did they do the jerma face
>>538199305I don't care what happened after, you literally retreated at the end of the clip. Your retarded talon got trapped and killed and wraith and victor got low. At that current time it's an unwinnable fight.
>>538197318Nigga we can all tell he's bad but you're not cool being a toxic nigger either.
>>538200270can't even look like a comically evil serial killer anymore without being called jerma
>>538197989>top public buildI hate you with every fiber of my being.
>>538200332ok but it's LITERALLY UNIRONICALLY the sus face.
>>538200295you are only defending that fag because looking at paige gives you an erection. if paige looked like grey talon you'd be toxic too
I have arrived at the conclusion, after much trial, that the most impactful item I can buy is splitshot because I can't fucking aim.It increases my DPS in 1v1 and teamfights consistently
>>538198449>One guy makes up a quarter of his entire teams networthYour best bet is to itemize against drifter specifically, stuff that just completely shuts him down. His team will be much weaker if their top net worth player can't do anything/dies
>>538200473creepy smiles existed before your parasocial best friend
>>538200079Barrel damage is too big to ignore. Its best to build her with a balance of weapon and spirit.
>>538200332same thing
>my Drifter Death mod stopped workingand just like that, I shall no longer play Drifter.
seriously, what the fuck is going on today? matches feel way higher ranked than yesterday.
>>538200801when the hype starts dying down you're going to start seeing more players that're sticking around to actually learn the game
>>538200656just because you're too autistic to not get attached to youtubers doesn't mean everyone else is, foamer.
>play shiv>viscous on enemy teamDRAFT FUCKING WHEN I WANT TO STOP PLAYING INTO COUNTERS FUCK
>>538200079>obviously gun oriented hero>1 is a spirit burst+cc>2 is a movement tool that's mostly there to setup her 1 and run away with her 4>4 is a pickoff tool that disables her shootingShe has one (1) move in her kit that plays around her gun. How is she "obviously" gun oriented.
>>538200972every time i play victor there's a vindicta on the enemy teamit's like a curse
>>538201048Not him but probably the entire theme, aesthetic and multiple voicelines of the character
>>538199305>weMore like your team did this 5v6 while carrying your useless support cuck ass
>>538201048idk dude maybe because shes a cowboy?????? autist
Which is the best McGinnis build:>Gunner>Support>Turret
>>538201417>entire theme, aesthetic and multiple voicelines of the characterYou'd be correct if icefrog and valve in general weren't fucking retarded>copy mccree>she plays the exact opposite to everything her design suggests
Is there something like probuilds from league, I refuse to learn what items do
>>538201542Rey Hybrid build.
>>538201048>1 is CC that sets up easy headshots and is literally something you can shoot>2 is a movement tool that lets her get above your cover and shoot you>3 is self evident>4 lets you drag people closer to you to shoot themjust because for some reason geist has a better revolver doesn't mean she isn't gun flavored, people go spirit because her gun kicks like a mule and punching barrels at your feet is way easier then learning to aim
fuck valve for giving mina the pretty girl nerfi assume mo & krill and gray talon are extremely strong while facerolling if they're really doing antipretty balance
>>538201542the elendiil solo carry one
>>538201685but she just got buffed? are you retarded?
>>538201620>copy le overwatch hero (but not really)>OMG WHY ISN'T THIS LE OVERWATCH
>>538201620was about to post this
>>538201620I guess they designed her as some kind of 'gunslinger' character then fucked up by accidentally making her way more fun to play as Donkey Kong
>>538201685she's good actually, the problem is that characters like this attract the dumbest people possible who are too bullheaded to play to the characters strengths because they're too busy jerking offits like when you had the vindicta coomers complaining about how the character sucks when she was a flying drone that could do full gun damage from outside your effective range and literally had 100% fly uptime with high speedthese stats would be higher if I could ever get a fucking game with this broad but her legion of simps that go 2-10 cause me to avoid getting her most of the time
What the shit is viktor supposed to do? Ye i saw the immortality build but that only works if you get fed a 12 course meal before 20 mins
>>538201802she's obviously extremely undertuned for anything other than pubstompingyou get baleeted the second you ult against anyone who knows what they're doing, her movement ability is actual dogshit and most of her damage is tied to stacking a debuff, making her the weakest jungle ganker
>>538201808>not a singular parry from MinaMina players are so mind rotted from how absurdly broken their 2 is that they crumble when they can't use it.
>>538201080it's literally every other game im playing into the direct counter to my hero, it's miserable dude
>>538201939post build
>>538174523Outside of playing League with friends I've never played a MOBA and I love Deadlock so much that I actually tried to play Dota 2 since I like Valve and it's a game I've never really tried. After 3 matches I can't imagine every playing this over Deadlock I feel like they improved so much of the core design with Deadlock.
>gamer accent retard constantly goes for boxes and camps and leaves me to 1v2 calling me a shitterYeah ok bro I love duo lanes
>>538202005>her movement ability is actual dogshit it resets your air actions, staminamaxx. she recovers stamina faster and she benefits from literally any/all of the stamina items for the health/fire rate/spirit bonuses.>>538202154i'm still feeling it out but something like this. its an ult first 1/3 second build
>>538163548babe wake up its another "haze farms jungle 24/7 and never participates in anything and doesn't even clear creeps near walkers" episode.
>>538201808Now this is a great webm
>>538202565that's almost as good as "haze actually does well in lane but then spends the rest of xher time overextending and getting picked constantly"
>>538202565Isn't this encouraged since the big patch though, large team fights give less souls now.So why be mad that a late-game carry is trying to farm instead of fight all the time
>>538201620Go play Overwatch then, retard. her kit is fun and her gun shits out damage if you can actually aim it like how a cowboy character should play. Crackshot even gets a cooldown reduction if you can repeatedly hit headshots.
why does pocket still have -15% spirit res built in
>>538202843the best way to farm is to kill creeps in a lane by yourself
>>538203098this retarded question was answered last thread.
>>538193329abrams is literally better than both those characters
>more than twice as much damage as anyone else>still lose because they got pickoffs right before midboss respawned twice in a rowplease just add a fucking respawn timer I can ping to get my teammates to stay together
>>538202358what's a gamer accentdo you mean that upwards inflection + the fast-talking thing?
>>538203098Because he has a way to negate damage and a way to teleport so he needs to take a fuck ton of damage whenever he gets caught so that he actually has a chance of dying.
>>538200884I think a better explanation is that with population starting to decline again the total skill disparity is getting wider, although it still averages to the same thing.
>>538200505>paige and erections out of nowhereWow you are a literal nigger.Get a job you coon!
is Kelvin just super boring or am I missing something?
>Being Lifted - Oh No!
>>538204035how are you building him?
>>538204187beam+spirit.
>>538168480The Pissman
>>538190028>>bring back 4 lanes pls>>bring back 4 lanes pls>>bring back 4 lanes pls>>bring back 4 lanes pls>>bring back 4 lanes plsTRV->bring back old vindicta face nownah kys
>>538204330yeah beam kelvin can get pretty boring if you're not into the support/debuff spreader role. I've been having more fun when playing him by going full chimpanzee gun
>>538204451eh. there's other guns I like better.I don't mind playing support in dota, I prefer it most of the time, but it can be annoying setting up your core and them fumbling at the goal line.I was topping damage but idk it just wasn't that fun.
And the character, Vindicta, she shouldn't have any shoes on. No, no shoes at all; she needs to be barefoot.
>>538204735do you think gaben knows deadlock exists?
>>538181363I don't care about self-inserting or whatever but Mina and Doorman are funny together
>>538204735why did they nerf her feet
does every drifter have to dive into the enemy team 1v6?
I want to have sex with The Doorman.
>>538181363She's a haughty cunt with a lot of girl failure potential.
>>538204621do you buy spirit proccing debuffs like healbane, suppressor, etc? Once you get tier 3 beam and some movement items you can cuck the entire enemy team in any fight they take
Just lost a game to a magician that went 19/5 on the melee build because my team can't parry. He wasn't evne using the bunny for most of the match, he was just spamming Q but nobody had their fucking parry key bound. If you're reading this i beg that you practice parrying
>>538196893Stop. fucking. brooling. Retards need to just fucking STOP trying to force weird fights in the middle of nowhere outside of the fucking base. Underfed retards need to stop trying to fucking deep-dive the enemy backline looking for 1v1s like it's fucking League of Dogshit. You swarthy gorilla nigger retards need to fucking STOP brooling, stop diving and just play it front to back.
>*Haze pauses to hit bong rip*>yooo why the fuck isnt anyone helping me in lane?>goes 0/24
>>538205429yeah but in cs if I kill people I win
>>538205136Doorman doesn't have a cock or an anus.
>>538205495Yeah well your power level is directly dictated by your resources and you feeding 10 times means you have none and the enemy has a fucking LOT and you just auto-lose every fight you take. Fucking STOP.
>>538205349they should probably make the heavy punch charge up sound louder or something.people need to be trained like dogs to be on alert when they hear it.
>>538205581He has a mouth.
>>538205630yeah but in cs if I kill people I win
>>538205674You can't kill anyone without building up resources while also not giving the enemy any. They literally become too strong for you to kill doing that shit. Fucking cease and desist, you shitskin.
>>538205856yeah but in cs if I kill people I win
>>538205915I know this post isn't serious but I fucking want you killed anyway cause this is most likely the unironic mindset behind a ton of these swarthy inbred oxygen thieving perma brooling retards I keep getting on my fucking team.
>>538204771all I know is that it came straight from the top
>>538204735he would demand this
>>538205429Valve's fault for making the brooling fun. They need to make some non-moba gamemodes already so I don't have to spend half the game shooting at braindead creeps.
>>538204771He's trying to find Viscous in real life right now.
>>538206539why are you playing a MOBA if you don't like the MOBA elements, retard?go play Marvel Rivals or Overwatch with all of the other room temp retards like yourself.
>>538204998they're real gamers
>>538206728Those games aren't fun though.
>>538206728>go play Marvel Rivals or Overwatch those games have dogshit movement so I shant
In honor of Black History Month, we decided to make Warden deal extra damage to Infernus
>>538205429>another tard picking mcnuggets to afk farm for 50 minutes neck yourself
Im doing better on farm but im still not sure where my games are going so wrong between build and fights
>Calico feeds her ass off>Can still kill me 1v1 by just spamming dive into cold frontwtf
>>538207642>drifter shits the bead in lane>gets a single kill and manages to snowball from there
someone wrote a Mina x Twilight Sparkle fic on ao3 btw
Im tired of thinking how do I build abrams?
>>538207354you're dogshit at movement if you're crying about the moba elements.
I noticed nobody ganks in this game. What's up with that? If I have a shiv 3k souls ahead of everyone before 10 minutes why if I request a gank everyone ignores me?
>>538208215you don't, play someone else
>>538208340because nobody in your games knows how to actually play
>>538208340because ganking before 8 minutes is literally fucking trolling due to soul splitting, retarded tranime groomer pedophile.
>>538172710The game is snowbally enough as it is. Not having further upgrades to buy once your build is complete means the losing team has a chance to come back if they can hold the winning team off long enough to complete their builds as well.
ok, where is my radiance item? how else am I supposed to increase my dps on punch builds?
>>538208615But the goal isn't to have the person stay in lane you utter shitter. It's to stop someone over-fed.
>>538208340i want to smell that anime girls shithole and rancid morning breath
>>538208215click on billy instead so you can play the same character with a better gun and more cc
>>538208802ah yes, destroying my early net worth on the off chance we can kill the 3k ahead shiv is SO smart!KILL YOURSELF, you disgusting subhuman low elo pedophile freak.
sliding down into mid boss is fun wee
>>538208843Thats fucking disgusting
>>538208998why
>pick abrams>scratch chungus>invest all into green items>sit afk in teamfights on my phone while the enemy dumps all their abilities into me and i only hit 75% health
>>538208893Post rank.
>don't pick abrams>he's afk>he only buys green items>ignore him and kill the rest of his team instead
>>538206728Shooting and movement is far more interesting and skill reliant than either of those. The art direction in Rivals and OW is also dogshit.
>>538209091I too love pretending even tanks like Abrams aren't getting one shot in this spirit burst meta.you can have 5k HP, colossus popped, below half with spirit resilience + healing tempo and STILL die in two seconds.
>>538209091pick victor do the same and also kill everyone
>>538208945i like chasing people down the mid ramp
>>538209258maybe in pisslow
working on an Abrams clip. might be too long to show the full thing though.
>>538209562Delete it and purge the cache files.
>>538209154stream your suicide, nonce. that's the only way your life will ever have meaning.
Should I just build only green items on Shiv so that I can live longer than 5 seconds?
>>538209762in-character doorman posting
>>538209762Link your statlocker pussy
>>538206728I play this game despite the MOBA elements, not because of them thoughbeit
>>538209762i agree with you but you're such a faggot, the type to instantly rage and altf4 if someone doesnt do exactly what you tell them on vctake a break from the game
>>538209872>PLEASE give me your steam account to stalk and schizo post because you raped me in /dlg/get cancer and die, pedo.
>>538209693purge DEEZfucking replay viewer bugging out not showing right information for cooldowns and stuff.
>>538209883same. literally never played a MOBA in my life, me and my brother are former overwatch and rivals players and started playing this game
>>538209762Holy BTFO
>>538163548I tried healer Dynamo and it sucked ass. Is there any character with good heals in this game?
>>538191064Restorative shot is the worst bait item in the game. Absolutely worthless.
>>538209973yjk this entires nigga life is deadlock and he isnt even eternus KEK
>>538209973You're a retarded loser anyway and I'm obviously right you're not going to lose souls from a 3man gank that allows you to have a better lane and possibly a tower.So fine you're P3 it's that easy when playing 4-6mans in discord every game.
>>538210124playing supports in the shitter ranks is futile paige is less reliant on the team, but you still need to build her correctly (which means no healing items)
>>538189773He's a one trick pony. His one trick is that he gets a guaranteed melee. Unfortunately, the advantages end there. Anyone building resistance to slows will just outrun you, and antiheal will completely shut you down from just 5 minutes in if your lane enemy buys Healbane. Billy is the evolution of Abrams.
>>538208802what if you just didn't feed in your lane so nobody would have to come save you?
>>538210352>just win lmaoWow I didn't think of that thanks.
>>538210124mcginnis is the only character who can reliably heal the whole team since her heal scales in duration based on spirit power. it's a pretty good way of winning (at least at lower-mid ranks) since you can just set up a few turrets inside heal and be an annoying unkillable asshole
>>538210283Yeah, cancer low ritualist pedophile. you absolutely know more about the game than I do! surely it's your teammates fault you're stuck in cancer low and not because you're a dogshit player letting Shiv get a 3k lead by minute 8!delusional half witted wretch, buy a 9mm and put it against your temple and see how much pressure you can put on the trigger before it goes off.I accept your concession, I don't talk to disgusting freaks who can't even be bothered to turn their monitor on while playing deadlock.
>>538210124Healing got nerfed a while back and the "healbot" playstyle is no longer useful anymore. If you want to heal a lot I think kelvin is your best bet due to his ult.
>>538210423no problem, hope this advice improves your gaming experience.
>>538210312no I mean, his healing skill basically does too little heal from i can tell. I probably build it wrong but how do I improve it?Yeah I am a shitter and it didn't help that yamato died to infernus 6 times before the first tower was taken but the point still stands.Ill test some of it out on the playground
>>538210124go back to overwatch.
>>538210124be a useful asset to your team instead of a dogshit heal dispenser.nobody wants to fight a 5v6 because some cuck wants to be a healer in a game with no healers.go play League, retard.
>>538194629>rebutal >parry>DrifterDid my roaming ape crushing fists drifter build suddenly became meta overnight or what?
>>538208215>how do I build abrams?Dont bother mate just do the Tokyo Drift
>Pick Lash>Lose lane>Spend the rest of the game farming and ulting people into our walkers until I have Spirit Burn and then I nuke their squishies This character is so fucking fun
>>538210124Geist
doorman is very involved how do i get good? i can barely utilize portals beyond laning
>>538210964bellboy and cartman are the best builds for him, you can do stupid damage with those
>play Mirage>lose lane>get pushed back to Walker>nobody comes to help so I don't get to use my ult for the first third of the gameI like Mirage but he is one of those heroes that relies on your allies not being retarded
>>538189773>tfw you played abrams when his shoulder charge was 15 sec cooldown, melee charge restored all your ammo and his gun could deal enough damage to put people under without having to invest 30k in it aloneThis hero alone helped me climb to phantom 5
>play Haze>Slowing Hex, Slowing Bullets, 2 levels into knife, Fleetfoot and Kinetic Dash>One of few heroes it makes sense to build all of this>people are either forced to stay and fight or I can simply outspeed them and chase them downFeelsgoodman. Most other heroes have so much trouble keeping people in place from my experience.
>>538210964It's baby tier but I just have escape portals for when I'm pushing walker (usually out of sight and high on a building), along with having an escape door for team fights. If the team fight is near a walker I put a door there so I can ult+cart someone into the walker
Does Abrams' charge stun really not lead into a heavy or am I just doing something wrong?
>>538211198>Slowing Bulletsfor the love of god stop building this dogshit fucking item.just go close range which has no build up for the slow and gives you 50% weapon damage.
>>538211180Now you need to invest 8 AP into shoulder charge for it to be usable outside of ganks lmao
>>538189773he was very fun when nobody knew how to parry and just tried to manfight him
>>538211307Only at level 2
>>538211307at tier 1? no LMFAO, they fucking hate Abrams.at tier 2? most of the time, yes. but if they have debuff reducer AND spellbreaker they can parry your heavy melee.>oh what's that? you landed a 5 man stun, pin and now are going for a heavy melee? >HAH, fuck you retard. the Mo has debuff remover and spellbreaker. you're now parried in front of 5 people! die.
>>538207452>50 minutesI only farmed for 20 minutes and immediately started popping. Team's just retarded.
>>538196992Now show us places to actually shoot the Walker from other than the middle of the fucking street. Y'know, something actually useful.
>>538211307Upgrade it to tier 2, if they buy counters just get Duration Extender and you get the guaranteed heavy back.Make sure you hold down the melee button during the charge. This ensures the heavy melee will come out as fast as possible upon contact with the wall.
>>538211685the funniest thing he could have been on the high ground building on the opposite side of the walker and had insane value but he NEEDS to be a backline sissy instead of being useful because playing Paige rots the brain.
>3 inbred gorilla teams in a row that refuse to stop taking random, stupid fights in the middle of the map, feeding 10+ deaths eachwhy the fuck is this specific behavior so fucking common with these retards
quality arcanist matchmaking
>>538211886I'm climbing back up after a break and hit Alchemist. I swear the teammates I'm getting are worse than the ones I got at Seeker
>>538211886LMAOOOOOOOOid kms so hard after this holy fuck man
>>538211886holy kek
Paige players be like
>>538211886>EOMM isn't rea-ACK
What's the plan?
are you replying to yourself
>>538200972I WILL skillshot the cube on a teammate the exact second you press 4, making you waste your ult
>>538212669paige players could never be that skinny
>>538213187I'll deal with the troopers
>>538213290that's not what skillshot means, tourist.
Why is Doorman picked less than all the newbies, is the portal shit really that much of a filter?
>>538213621Gun shoot slow. Require aim.
>you killed your opponent in lane four times OOOOHHHH but your OTHER teammate died TWELVE TIMES DOOOOOHHHHOHOHO looks like he WINS he's the WINNER UH-OH!!!! UH-OH!!! YOU LOSEyou have to be an actual brain dead retard gorilla nigger to enjoy this genre even slightly
>>538190028Fuck you, one lane now.
>>538198449>wonder why one lane is getting smoked>see fed Lash/Drifter>sigh and buy start building to counterat the very least most of the time when those two get overfed they don’t buy defensively and knockdown becomes my retard saver
>>538213621He's not that good and requires effort to be impactful.
>>538213621his entire kit filters brainlets>thinking with portals filters brainlets>cart is one of the hardest to hit skills in the game>easy to fuck up ult and let someone survive for longer or even straight up survive if you don't know what you aredoing>gun isn't fast and spammy, proj. speed is slow, not the easies to hit shots with despite the big bullet size>even his simplest ability (the bell) needs you to shoot at the bell after you fire it instead of just being a free AoE and it does double damage if you can aim properly and direct hit
Oh cool it's another episode of my team having 0 CC while the enemy team has all CC!!!!! I love reruns!!! I LOVE NO-DRAFT MATCHMAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>538210664why do people keep suggesting this like every billy player is just throwing haymakers constantly?? this does nothing about betting slammed or having him chain you and running away, or just beating you to death with light hits
>>538213962EPIC DEADLOCK FACT: you can buy CC in the store
>>538213962>picking heroes without CCskill issue
>>538213962>SOMEBODY ELSE DO SOMETHING!
>>538210124>Dynamo>HealsYour job as fat robot is to dive into enemies and CC them to death, and then run around at mach speed teleporting your allies out of deaths
dear doormanI don't give a fuck about your echo shard memes don't take the entire farm from your teamfucking faggot
>>538213962Wow I fucking love playing Shiv against Mo and Krill, Dynamo, Lash, Holiday, Bebop, and The Doorman. It's so fun not being able to go 5 seconds without getting fucking fucked.
>>538213962>enemy Haze buys unstoppable>kills everyoneWOW WHAT A CONCEPT ANON
>>538191013I'm surprised there's no butler / maid hero, but I suppose Doorman is essentially a butler
If your build includes arctic frost anywhere in it, it's a shit build and you're better off buying knockdown, simple as.
What is with all these absolute sub 20k damage dps retards who INSIST they need fortitude, I see at least two every game and they are the worst and lowest performing players in the entire match regardless of which team they're on
>get drifter two times in a row>it's tank and spirit drifter>they accomplish fucking nothing, do no damage>on fucking drifterbro....why???
I buy knockdown and phantom strike almost every game on Doorman, am I evil?
>team all pussyfoot around>decide to engage because we're fed>they're still all pussyfooting waiting to get "le epic kill montage" play>we end up losingholy fuck play the fucking game you guys aren't MLG pros you're fucking alchemist shitters like me
>>538214320Those were the days. But then they nerfed her damage by like half and made everyone twice as tanky
>>538213621Nothing about doorman's playstyle is cool unless you become a big brain portal user which is hard as fuck.I can flip off a wall, mid air headshot someone and then teleport them back into my bomb for an instakill as Paradox.Or I can spam bells for twenty minutes and then press R on some dude and he probably won't die anyway
>>538170837GIWTWM
there should be an item which makes heavy melee faster
>>538214935>big brain portal userleave a portal at walker and then cart people into portal, wow real big brain. I have yet to see anything other than cart people into walker memes, and the doormen are usually retards who do it to tanks who just shrug it off
It's high time Valve added a 1v1 mode
>>538215019>I think my 1000 damage AOE no skill button should be unreactableI think you need to fuck off.get Fleetfoot and HMC>oh that's too hardprobably is if you're asking for an item that broken, you retarded melee monkey.
>play snek>slippery slide around >shank people in the ass>shoot an gorillion bullets per second>win 90% of fights because nobody can hit abilities and or headshot you when youre zipping at mach speedI'm starting to love Vyper. I just wish her design was a little more interesting, her dumb overalls look like shit
>>538214503I use Arctic Frost and Knockdown as Doorman because my Paige and Mina are -1/13/2 and the Enemy Drifter & Billy are so high off the blood they both didn’t bother to buy anything but damage
>>538214503ah yes, my Knockdown Calico and Pocketso smart
BEHOLD! THE POWER OF THE BIG BLUE BULL!(1/2)
>>538216025this game is so fun bros.(2/2)
>want to make youtube content about Deadlock>am alchemistman
>>538216025I can't believe Wraith didn't parry you
they should give calico and wraith big ghetto bootys
>>538216191oneshotting mina with melee is always nice
>>538216732she was so mad too talking shit the whole game. she was like 2-10-6 or something lol.
So, how did I do? My Holiday was constantly nagging that I was building Paradox wrong.
>>538214320hello time traveler from 6 months ago
>>538202445>seung minama nigga
>>538198084oh no no no no no no no
>>538198084i don't like sinclair's reddit personality, he should have been more imposing
>>538216938What'd you build?
>>538200132I might have some sort of mental damage but I don't find sex that enticing. Company that isn't an active burden on you is much more desired, atleast to me.
Anyway to change the health bar intervals?
>>538216938you did awful. look at your damage.your holliday is bad too.doesn't matter that you didn't die a lot, can tell by your lack of kill participation that you were literally just afk farming the entire game. 54k souls, 0 player damage, 0 objective damage.
>>538172427Better teams win. simple as.
>>538216191>I'll take you all on!
>>538217357there's a console command, that you can also turn into a launch command, to have the updated health bars. they should be coming to the game by default soon. /(huffs copium)/there might be a console command to change the intervals.
>>538214320>
>>538217206I kind of like his whole "failed married couple sharing a body" shtick and that they take turns "piloting" the body every time you dieI hope they lean more into that in a small way, like the model of the assistant switching each death since they're usurping control over the body from the other, leaving the other as the assistant
>>538200079Take this from a novice player, but in my experience Holiday does very poor gun damage, it's the equivalent of a peashooter and the only reason you use it is to try to get a headshot with your "boolet" which unless you level it up to 5, it will have a 15-20 second cooldown. However, once you have it built up it becomes a very good "get off me" tool since landing it makes people disengage almost immediately, and if they don't, you cracker barrel them.
>>538215213invite someone to your party and switch teams in the hideout
>>538217769*gets blocked by a creep*
>>538215213It's called Sinclair vs Doorman and sending two people to the hotel
>>538217240I always max out time bomb early on and use it as an area denial tool to push unguarded lanes since abilities can do damage to troops without showing your position on the map. I only use Carbine, Time Wall, and Swap in combos to either drain someone harrassing my team or get a kill.>>538217403How can I do better? I'm not a good 1v1 fighter. I usually play slow and methodical.
I know nothing about this game but I played a little bit of league of legends, who's good/like yorick? he was my favorite guy from that game.
>>538217769ah yes the item that only Ivy (maybe) and Wraith build!the active needs to be put on a more useful item.
cosmetics when
>>538218341McGinnis is good at being a faggot on side lanes with her turrets, so I guess it would be her.>toss turret under guardian>all your minions get to mollywhop the guardian for free while the dipshit guardian focuses your turret>can do the same thing with walker.that's if you liked his gay little ghoulies. if you want a splitpusher that is literally impossible to 1v1 pick wraith.
>>538217584Thanks
So this is basically just the list of what heroes are actually worth picking, yes?
>>538218754competitive play is not indicative of how you should be playing your pubs.
>>538218754what do numbers mean
>>538218824It is, however, indicative of relative strength, especially first pick and first bans.>>538218908Look at the bottom anon, those are first round picks/bans.
>>538217206you keeo repeating the same shit, you are retarded
>>538218754coordinated pro play is not solo queue, you retarded alchemist peaking retard.
Having watched around 2 hours of movement videos now, I can confidently say that I am never leaving low mmr.
>>538218946I meant the left ones, but i guessed that its the number on times picked. I was told pocket is gay and seven is nerfed to shit...
>>538219087your movement is not what's keeping you low elo, lmfao.
>>538219229Achtually it's not knowing what to do after laning phase is over unless someone is leading and doing it well.
>>538218995hey I was archon 10 months ago
When I'm tired of being on a lose streak, I pick Abrams.
>>538219351>archonwhoa there, high roller. lets slow it down a bit
>>538218995I'm oracle, and you can't deny that being picked more is a good indicator of general character strength.
>>538218754Aieee picked twice?Nerf Ivy again now
>>538218754Don't care, im Sinclairmaxxing. >whiffs bolts and copies victor's ultheh, nothing personel.
>Crow feels horse shit to get hit by, perma attack speed slow because suppressor is a very fair item>vind hits fly and also procs suppressor on every shot>stake, I do not need to say anything more>hitscan fuck you button>not fun to play against>not fun to play as>not fun to play with>perma pick/ban in pro playVinds entire kit needs to go, nothing worth keeping there.
>>538218754Doorman copers you said he was first ban material? What happened?
>play support Kelvin>keep team up through the fight>we still lose in the end>see post-game stats>I somehow out-damaged the drifter on our teamAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>538218946>>538219423no. it's not relevant at all.some of the heroes at the top have a negative win rate.
Why's Valve so obsessed with black women?
>>538219547do you not get the revive with victor ult?
>>538219694>shitters can't play a hero>"um akschully this hero isnt strong"just because retards don't know how to melee a barrel doesnt make holliday a bad hero, retard-kun
>>538219730Never ask a racist the ethnicity of his wife.
>climb a few ranks>instantly start getting paired with baboons, chimps, niggers and slaves>8 loss streakthank you valve
So do Mina players just not know to invest a little in Rake on creeps/neutrals for sustain?My healing related stats on Mina are top 10% even compared to Eternus players. I don't buy healing items on her.
>>538219142yes priority, the ones at the bottom were ignored
>>538219687I'm pretty sure most Doorman posts are saying he's not that good when people complain about him
>>538219763You do, but you have to die in 5 seconds or so before copy expires.
>>538219850>*Rake to use on creeps/neutrals for sustain
>headshot boosterhaha pewpew there goes your health
>>538218459Gotta wait for the full launch, I hope the beta designs for the OG heroes return as skins after they all get overhauled.
>>538219614nope, i will ask for buff on the forums
>>538214883why do people spread this lie haze still absolutely fucking rips people apart unless her team is 12 miles behind
>xhe bought the Healing Ritenothing says n00b more than this item.
>>538218459during halloween and christmasi hope that valve is in charge of the cosmetics for a long time and if the community is ever involved that they avoid a pedo emporium situation like in tf2
>>538220093back when her ult shot an extra target I didn't need a team
>there are now overlays for bridge buffs and mid boss
When's Valve going to finally deal with the cheater problem?
>>538219925I said he was first pick/ban material when he was first released and honestly I still stand by that. Maybe people just haven't been scrimming optimal portal placements yet and don't see how strong he could be in organized play or maybe I'm just fucking retarded and overestimating how good he is.
>>538220534right after the MM and smurf problem so in about 5 years according to valve time
>>538220052Reworking Vinny's kit will be the best buff.
im a noob upfronmthow do i lane against fucking mcginnis
>win a single game>immediately get handed 5 games with the dumbest, blackest, brool-brained, oxygen thieving, incestspawn giga gorilla niggers humanly possible in a row>try to figure out why>it's SaturdayWelp, that explains literally everything. The brown, retarded wagecuck burger flippers are online. I should have been paying more attention to what day it is. Every multiplayer game in existence is fucking unplayable the moment these retards are allowed to be play vidya games at all. I GUESS THAT'S MY OWN FAULT for not being more aware of what day it is to see it's the days the literal chimpanzees are allowed out of their quarantines.
>>538220648buy monster rounds, don't push so far you get walled
>>538220557both are true.you're overvaluing him, but also pros are retards. they're all just failed overwatch pros being carried by their aim and they peaked in gold and legend in lol/dota.
>>538220687she's diving my tower
>>538220650honestly its not even that the MM has been fucked for a while now. every other game feels like you're against New people or a 5 stack practicing for a tournament
>Holiday gets THREE charged abilitiesBlue Yoshi?!
>>538220884No, weekend players unironically make it tangibly worse than normal.
>>538220557this,its the earth spirit problem all over again, once people know how to play WITH him on their team he'll be banned constantly.
I can't get gun Viscous to work. It feels great but I just don't get kills and seem squishy (maybe just because I'm not putting out enough damage). It's weird.
>>538220917...three?
>>538220597her kit is fine and has synergy
>>538221041the only viable way to play viscous right now is to go full burst nigger mode with express shot, mystic shot combined with tankbuster on puddle
Spirit resistance literally does jack shit>Build 44% resistance>Still get chunked by anything
>>538218459never hopefully
>>538221169but is her kit FUN?
>>538220557I had a lane against doorman where he was able to pressure us from every side possible because of doors, so he's pretty strong if someone's good at himHis lanky hitbox is also hard to hit
>>538221361yeah i have fun sniping faggots with her ult and crow and flying (ot was much better with 4 lanes) or not letting them escapein fact what is not fun is having to wait for the full snipe damage
nah this game is legit ass im done with it
how good is bebop, spirit bomb maxxing specifically.
>>538221361the only way I can have fun with her is if I build her as a debuff AIDS spreader
>>538221723there's a lot of ways to avoid bomb damage, and buying echo shard makes people more likely to buy more counters.
>>538221723incredibly op in low end lobbies where no one knows to buy debuff removerpretty much useless at any rank where they do
>>538221678Yeah her snipe is too fucking slow. It's not oneshotting anyone. Just give us the fire rate of the AWP already.
>>538220457the overlay also shows everyone's items when you press tab.
>>538221318I think you get more HP (>+44%) with spending same money.
I just had one of the most baffling matches ever>Playing Dynamo, paired with lash on right laneLash proceeds to die 4 times to billy and victor before the 10 minute mark. viper does about the same>everyone just keeps trying to team fight instead of pushing lanes>mcginnis and calico feed them some more>do one success full really good push on yellow lane and even get to their shrines but we die in the process>mcginnis decides to do mid boss>she kills the mid boss BUT DOESN'T STAY TO THE END TO GET THE CRYSTAL, SHE JUST FUCKING LEAVES >enemy team just goes there and grabs it>we lose the matchinfernus and viper were obviously new to the game, lash talked big but died in the first minute of the match. it was a shitshow even for low rank stuff
>>538219087nobody in high MMR does any of that shit.
>>538222429>these are the people claiming victor is op
>>538222429never assume you are going to win if there's a viper on your team.
how do I push a lane without getting jumped and raped?
>>538222429I've come to the conclusion that playing someone who's got a good ult for pushing is mandatory if you're at low ranksEveryone's a brooler so you need to be able to rat around and get objective damage because the rest of your team definitely won't
>>538222567he is probably very strong still but it is a little hard to beat him when you fed him the whole match>>538222747I am low rank but i have legit never seen a vyper win a match so far.tvavkn
GOD FUCK THIS SHIT GAME I FUCKING HATE IT SO MUCH
>>538223181it's time to change the world :)
>>538222517it's funny because the people I've seen doing all this schmovement in my average games, are also feeding uncontrollably.
>>538220650Weekend players are why we need a Techies hero so we can just play our own goofy ass game while these literal animals just grief themselves.
>>538223181>vyper with killsthis was a bot match
>>538220650the weekends are always the worst time for multiplayer games.just had a stack vs stack and i was the solo player, their stack was actually gaming and mine was just casuals that decided to play together.the other team all erupted into shit talk at the same time as the game ended, that's how i know it was a stack.
>>538223641alchemist match actually
paige looks like she exclusively gives births to twins and triplets
>Doorman teabags me after killing him 5 times in a rowGuess I really got to him.
i like that gray talon looks like a shitty old manhe just needs to look less like a grandma
>>538219087The only movement tech you need to utilize in your gameplay is mantle slide (which is literally just mantling up something then holding crouch to instantly slide) which is so easy there's no reason not to use it and learning to consistently wall jump and utilize heavy melee to get up walls without having to use up stamina. This is not hard either. That's it. That's all the super important movement you need to know and use. There is other tech, sure, but it's not necessary to play the game correctly or at a high level.
>>538218754Ivy!Picked twice!She's winning!
THIS GAME IS UNFUCKING WINNABLE
>>538226582>less farm than the paigeYou were facing my wife so your loss was inevitable.
>>538219229>>538222517Post rank, shitters
second chat wheel when?
Lock status?
>try to play a hero i rarely ever played>every time without fail the game designates me as a mmr assassin because (and i checked) i get matches against 3+ oracle+ players while my team has 1 ascendant and a bunch of arcanist-archon shittersi don't know why i keep doing it
Is there an algorithm that makes you so never get Mina, and the one time you do you get a Kelvin in your team, cucking your ult?
So I haven't played since before Paige was added. I used to play ivy, but I'm not really sure who to play these days or what the meta is.
>>538227940AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMBIN IM GOOOOOONNAAAAAAAAA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMB
>fight infernus player>urge to ever play the game again drops off a cliffmight as well hire the fucking league of legends devs if this is the bar for hero design. Holy shit man
I fucking give up. You cannot actually win this game because too much is determined by what team you get shoved on. Fucking shit game
>>538229253Debuff removerSuppressor and/or Juggernaut to reduce his fire rateSlowing hex (stops him from dashing)Any anti-heal (if he has a lot of lifesteal)And if you're REALLY desperate, disarming hex
>>538229498none of those are great options except for disarm ironically. an abrams wall stun + disarm and even a phantom strike equals dead infernus unless your team is stupid or they have competent peelers
>>538229785>none of those are great optionsYou're a retard who knows nothing and pointing out a counter pick is meaningless when teams are random
>>538229916your unemployed and unloved, tough shit
bebop feels like shit to play. bombs never go where you want.
>>538230145another anon hereif you're struggling against infernus you genuinely need to uninstall
>>538230625unemployed, unloved, and pretends to be different people on 4chan...
>>538229785>league player complains about league balance but doesn't realize hes the reason they balance that wayneck retard
>>538229253>leaguebabopinion discarded.
The final Deadlock thread...
riot won. icefrog has been apprehended.
this game SUUUUUXUXXX
>tracklock only recommends gun ivy
the big deadlock update couldn't beat rivals off-season
>>538229439Weekend players are on making shit worse than usual. Shit being decided by skewed matchmaking is also universally present in EVERY team PvP game now.
>>538229253buy plated
Mystic slow has got to be the most dogshit useless item I've ever seenLiterally does nothing
>>538234221>>538234221>>538234221
>>538208215Look up "salty's build" on the build browser that works pretty good. Also learn how to bait out parries or your in for a world of hurt