Honorabu samurai edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>537943543>Thread QuestionWhat's your favorite Asian themed monster, class, archetype, etc?
>frosted window, open>cold very light breeze, sunny>mug of hot cider, biscuits and gravyAnother perfect morning for adventuring around in my favorite CRPG, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Special Edition) (modded)
>>538130707>Heinrix's voice makes your blood run coldDon't like when they tell my character how to feel to be honest
>>538147558>hot cider, biscuits and gravydo yanks really
Imoen? Sex!
I posted this at the end of the last generalAldori Defender humanGet Weapon Finesse to use dexterity instead of strength for accuracyGet Aldori Swordlord Prestige Class as soon as possibleLevel 1 Aldori Swordlord gets Deft Strike which allows you to use dexterity for damageSo lots of dexterity and 13 intelligence is probably what I want? I saw the Combat Expertise feat that gives AC but requires intelligence and the Aldori Defender will likely be my tankJust brainstorming
>>538147362Copying my question from the end of last thread:How do you build Heinrix to be so OP? I've read numerous times that he's probably the strongest companion but I've never been able to make him do anything meaningful in combat. I'm in the middle of act 2 and my strongest companions are Kibellah and Argenta. As soon as Kibellah acts she can often kill half or more of all enemies by jumping around spreading rape. My Cassia is also quite strong with her aoe ability. My RT doesn't do much damage on his own but as an officer and grand strategist he is the one who facilitates the OPness of my other companions.
>>538147362>What's your favorite Asian themed monster, class, archetype, etc?those retarded SEA vampires that are just a head and dangling organsI don't know if they're even in any games, but they're funny
>>538148374Do you really want to be stronger?At a certain point the game devolves into killing the whole map before enemies get a single action.
Mercato bros! We won!
Is there finally?
You fucking bitch! I could kill you. Why don't I just rape you here?
>>538150864A real RPG would let you roll for rape
>>538148258Anon the issue is that you have to use a dueling sword. No other weapon is good enough.Versus a million other dex-based builds where you can use other weapons besides duelling swords. And it's not even remotely the best AC class, since it barely makes up for the fact that you can't use a shield.
>>538151015then there are no real rpgs
>>538151467>>538148258And then there's the fact that Swordlord requires Dazzling Display, which makes you think you should go for the Cornugon Smash and Shatter Defenses to complement Shatter Confidence. But uh-oh, now you have to get power attack which you don't want because you're dex!
>>538147839Biscuit means something else.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuits_and_gravy
>>538148258Ignore this guy he's stupid >>538151467Take 3 levels of whatever rogue class you want so you can get finesse training and some other goodies.Take 9 levels of Aldori Defender for Steel Net and two levels of weapon training.Get all the crane style feats.Turn on defensive fighting for like +1 to hit and +5 to AC.You can spend the remaining 8 levels however you want. For example:Monk 1: saves some feats for crane style and get +wis/cha to ACPaladin 2: smite evil and save bonusesVivisectionist 1: mutagen, shield spell, and sneak attack diceHellknight 1: smite chaosDemonhunter 1: +2 to hit/damage against all demonsanother 4 A.D. levels: more weapon training and feats
with the power of headcanon i rape these women
>>538150864>>538152989>RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPEIs there anything more pathetic than a raging incel?
>>538149692I'd like him to feel strong enough that he doesn't feel useless compared to other companions. I like rotating my party members.
>>538153080
Oh hey, they updated these to include the fact you killed the faction leaders
>>538152763How am I stupid? You just effectively told him not to get swordlord, which is exactly the point I was making.
>>538153080>>538153470
I wonder if three times is the maximum of low reputation ambushes you can get.
>>538153142Give him these two items.Generally build around the idea of maxing out veil degredation with aoe attacks then spamming psyker powers to trigger psychic phenomena which permanently increase his psy rating.Each psy rating dramatically increases the damage potential of this force sword. There's technically an upgraded version of this sword in act 3 so you could dual wield them or opt to use a shield.I used these this combo to deal 10k damage to Epitaph in a single hit so it's pretty good.
>>538153080It's just a role broDo you think CE runs mean someone is unhinged in real life?
THE POWER OF SCIENCE BITCH
Would you play a crpg set in fantasy India if it featured rape mechanics?
>>538155436ewwwho wants to rape pajeetas?
>>538155436as long as it's about based chariot riding White Bvlls doing the raping
i still can't believe this ending is in the game and you have to become a literal messiah to be in the same position
>>538155436These rape discussions are getting really repetitive.It's the same shit every time. Don't we have anything else to discuss?
let's talk about cuckoldry insteadwhat's your favorite owlcat game?
ah, you conniving irish-looking fuck
Alistair and Carth aren't that bad. I like them. A regular dude companion is nice to have when the rest of the cast is wacky in one way or another.Atton almost fits the bill as well, but he ends up being wacky too, and he has some antagonistic moments.And let us not forget the pinnacle of the mostly-normal reliable bro companion archetype, Garrus.Bg3's closest character is probably Wyll.I think Carth only has a negative reputation because of the [Carth wants to speak to you] "I don't want to talk right now" thing, but there's a reason for that and you learn why. But it became a meme anyway.
>>538148258Another path to consider:For Dodgetank that hits decently with dex modifier, Duelist would work well since it gives Canny Defense, better initiative and parry can be fun4 levels of rogue give you not only dex to damage but also uncanny dodge which is quite useful (plus combat tricks).Swordlord extra abilities with shaken and such are harder to utilize but at least its Saving slash is quite useful.
>>538156697Every companion should be exceptional or quirky or interesting in some way. Who gives a shit about boring-normal-dude-bro?
>this just in: average man is averagethank you for the insight RETARD
>>538154786Also Eyes of Joyce , starmist etc. Tons of retarded psyker gear.>>538148374If you want a detailed step by step guide:See all those Dogmatic Pyro Psyker MC build, over 20k damage on unfair etc on youtube or guide sites? Heinrix can pretty much do that as well, just comes together a bit later(since you have to take Pyro discipline) and his Dogmatic Rank will be lower
An elf girl you cannot smooch is like a dwarf without a beard or fighter without heavy armor.
>>538156697I wish they stuck with the early acess will and have him just pretending to be into all the hero shit and mooching off of his fans, makes way more sense for a warlock to be like that than to be an actual straightlaced good guy, like dude you made a pact with a devil and are surprised the devil lied to you
>>538147948>Could an RT have so much power and resources that he can outright defy one of these orders, knowing that the order would not be willing to spend the resources and manpower to do anything about it? Definitely. Balancing that line is what they do. It's also what semi-legal operators like Jae and Vladaym do.
yep
>>538159062skill issue
Will DH's inquisition have bite compared to whatever the soilent version was in Dragon Age?
>>538159062Tempts you to pick certain mythic abilities and paths just for that, doesn't it?
>>538159220Like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhAKxsQLp3U
>WTF theres always a 5% chance of failure?have you retards never played a D20 game before
It's freedom time!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIG8YPj1-i0&list=RDdIG8YPj1-i0&start_radio=1
>>538159810erm, that's ILLEGALhttps://youtu.be/On2w9VTPbB4?si=KI8ilHWsVEg84z9l
>>538160052This theme is kino, too bad I hate playing balancetism characters.
>>538160052desu it sounds like a villain theme
>>538159515idk if you thought this was a gotcha, but you're just showing off a protagonist being rude (in the same series with the warden's knife-o-matic) and not an inquisition that is actually terrifying to have involved in your shit
>>538161076lawtists are villains
>>538161312There are a few stabbings you do personally and condemn quite a few people to death.Not saying the game is good, just that you wield your authorurity and escape normal consequences
>>538159220>>538161312Bioware's inquisition was just a makeshift peacekeeping force with an edgy nameBetween Owlcat's Hulrun (which is a hilarious parody of his tabletop version) and their depiction in RT, you will probably get what you want.
>>538148374reposting
I wanna smooch her.
>>538161557>waaaah there are consequences to my actions and I don't wan it
>>538162665only god (me) can judge me
I think if there is ever an incest option in rpgs she definitely needs to be your sister by blood and not the not-blood-related-divine-sibling cop-out that was Imoen that doesn't count but if she were your real sister by blood then you could explore the immorality and the taboo of it but the only problem is that it would lock the PC race to the same as the sister so it will probably never happen
>>538161962I do not remember these botos for soem reason. I used the Psyker footwear ( extra dodge for each Psyjer power used)
>>538163398incest is grosskill yourself
>>538155836when they add this?
>>538163398Based.I don't see why homo/cuck/poly/trans stuff is fine but that's crossing some evil line.
Can I go into Rogue Trader blind or am I gonna fuck myself?
>>538164406Because if you are a wholesome man who approves of heterosexual relationships with children in mind, mixing blood of relatives should disgust you
>>538164863>heterosexual relationships with childrenStfu pedoshit
>>538164863>mixing blood of relatives should disgust youas should all the other stuff anon mentioned
>>538164823a)Can you read?b) Are you patient enough to go through talents/abilities for each class at least once to get a rough idea what makes it tick?If yes, you will be fine. The game gets easier very fast and there is respect to boot (official and unofficial)
If I use toybox respec does that disable the sadistic game design achievement?
>>538164863>if you're straight, incest being in the game should disgust you more than gay sexsomething to share with the class, anon?
>>538165131By default, it disables all achievements. It is a cheat engine, though, and can re-enable achievements.
>>538165208>moreWhy do you make things up? Incest is disgusting and degenerate and also has no place in games
>>538163398where would a game where you play as ares but fuck aphrodite fall under?
>>538165318I have re-enabled the achievements using mods but not sure if toybox respecing also the triggers the "no-respec" flag even though it's not done through the normal game flow.
>>538165019Sounds fine, I just don't want another Underrail situation where you find out your build is bricked or that you've locked yourself out of the best vendor because of a choice you made 30 hours ago.
>>538165674Nothing is immoral or taboo to the gods so that would be pretty flat
>le brown fur transmuterBro why can't I just metamagic reach personal transmutation spells?
>>538164823If you're thinking in terms of difficulty then don't worry about. This is not Pathfinder, the characrer building is much more straight forward and the combat is much easier even on the higher difficulties. Also your companions are usually better at their respective roles than any mercenary you could cook up.So yeah, go in blind and have fun.
>>538165701The respeccing is tied to difficulty selection, not the actual act of respeccing, so as long as you're at least on Core then you should be able to respec no problem.
>>538156839Eder bros...
>>538156839Kaidan frens...
what is your ideal crpg party in an eastern setting
I wish my character was more interesting. No, being grafted with the soul of Areelu Vorlesh' stupid dead kid is not a personality.
>>538169284me and my five oni wives
>>5381692841 pragmatic, borderlined nihilistic ninja/1 traditionalist samuraikunoichi/courtesan double life flirt1 oddball girl who is dragged by circumstances (trapper, hunter, craftsman).1 guy you recruit cause he is the oddball inventor or mage (depending on setting/fantasy), uses prototype gun or tome.1 miko.If more fantasy oriented, 1 outsider (oni, yokai etc) or hybrid of, rather the aloof variety that joins because he was beaten for unrelated reasons and/or finds it interesting than betrayer of his people.
>>538169284a shin megami tensei party
>>5381692841 monk1 ninja1 samurai1 big fat fighter1 old man mentor1 animal creature with sapience/ability to talk
Have you seen Big R's new Argenta porn yet? It's actually good
What exactly does he mean, in terms of months spent in Act 3?
>>538171041Just do it first before finishing Areelu Lab and Wintersun village, I think
>>538162292
What's your ideal endgame loadout?
>>538171373warpmaxxing and making idira have more psy-rating than the emperor himself
>>538167634>go in blind and have funAll these misses are reminding me of XCOM.
>>538171373I prefer naked psyker for starmist.I also liked the psy focus amulet and parry/dodge reduction accesories in general
How do I incelmax in Wrath? Best class, race, background, deity and mythic path?
>>538171857Can you try again without irrelevant buzzwords?
>>538171957bazinga
>>538171957Can you try again without being an irrelevant boomer?
>>538171642Three things to note.The game is best played on unfair.You should go to formation settings and put everyone onto the same square.You should go into options and set combat speed to as fast as possible for everything.If you ever want to know something just ask.
>>538172289You are the one in need of help.Being actually clear instead of acting like a retard is to your benefit.
>>538164123been there for a while now
>>538172450If you're incapable of understanding non-boomer lingo then you're incapable of answering my question, now back your nursing home
>>538172614not him but when you post shit like that everyone's going to assume you're a shitposter just wasting time out of boredom
>>538172978I want self insert, so naturally I have to incelmax
Oh fuck you, the bonus from background doesn't stack with magical weapon enhancement, who fucking writes this shit
>>538173267Which background gives + to hit or damage? I thought they all gave prof.
Over-confidence and not being patient or taking the enemy seriously has once again, proved to be devastating.2nd squad: Completely dead, gunned down trying to take back Red Diamond.Kalyna: RIP. Dr Q: RIP. Wolf: RIP. Buns: RIP. Hitman: RIP. Larry: RIP.This is it though, the final playthrough. The cards are dealt. My main squad came to finish the job, and now we have everything west of the river, Port Cacao and some nearby sectors, and a little around Landsbach as well.Now that the spoiler-thing has happened, our opposition is much stronger, and I got lazy, and sloppy, and 6 lives were lost because of it.Still, it's an opportunity now to build up a better team, from the higher Elite/Legendary ranks of A.I.M. perhaps. For now, there's nothing to do but press on further into the jungles of Grand Chien.
>>538173267Pretty sure the background bonus specifically mentions it's an enhancement bonus.Now you learned a valuable lesson. Bonuses of the same name don't stack unless they're one of a handful of types. I think dodge AC and natural armor AC stack but nothing else. For all other bonuses you take the highest one for the specific name and that's your bonus.That's why it's so important to stack your team with unique bonuses.>enhancement>sacred>racial>profane>mutagenic>size>inherent>morale
>>538174754>mutagenicAlchemical.Also, insight for to-hit bonuses
>>538172342>The game is best played on unfair.I'll do that on my second run. I first learn the system on a lower difficulty then play it properly the second time. >You should go to formation settings and put everyone onto the same square.I don't believe you. That sounds so stupid.
Now that the dust has settled, what is the verdict on multiclassing? A Good or Bad addition to CRPGs?
>>538173267>If the character already has the class skill, weapon proficiency or armor proficiency granted by the selected background from her class during character creation, then the corresponding bonuses from background change to a +1 competence bonus in case of skills, a +1 enhancement bonus in case of weapon proficiency and a -1 Armor Check Penalty reduction in case of armor proficiencyHm.
>>538175146>I'll do that on my second run. I first learn the system on a lower difficulty then play it properly the second time.You're making a mistake. This isn't Pathfinder. The balance is different.>I don't believe you. That sounds so stupid.There's nothing to believe. You literally just click the button on the right and set the formation. Weird thing to be stubborn about but have fun having your entire party in weird positions at the start of encounters and struggling to get your team to walk around traps I guess.
>>538175181>>538174754Why would the skill bonus be competence but the attack bonus be enhancement?! Enhancement is magic!! It should be so that I can pick my background to be permanently useful for damage dealing!!!As it stands armor proficiency is the most useful proficiency background bonus.
How do I build a gunner in Pillars of Eternity 1?
I'm so fucking stOOPID why did I make my background a hunter when I am both a mercenary in character and the mercenary light proficiency would have actually helped me with even better dex bonus for chainshirts, am I gay, am I retarded, what the fuck is wrong with me
>>538175997I disagree. I think it's oblate that can swap which stat goes to which skill.There's like a criminal background that gives you an initiative bonus.I think there's a martial artist background that gives you a free feat that you need for the crane style line.There's a few that give saving throw bonuses.Basically all of them can give you additional class skills for the +3 bonus.The overall best is probably the initiative bonus which most people don't realize the ridiculous importance of.
>>538176385Those aren't proficiency background bonuses, you're not disagreeing with my you're just sucking my cock. Stop sucking my cock weirdo.
Black geyser has made me realize why don't more crpgs do dualclassing? The reason you don't do it irl because its annoying to count all the exp and do the level up calculations but the computer can easily do that.
Why did she have a child with an ugly bastard?
>>538176172Ranger for Swift Aim and wounding shot.Paladin for flame of devotion for big dick arquebus hits.Rogue gets ranged sneaks and decent passives.Wood Elf is probably the best, but Islanders get extra weapon set if you want to do switches.As for talents, Marksman, Penetrating Shot, Weapon focus, Swift and Stead are good.
>>538176541Well then I'll just say armor in general is shit and shield proficiency is way better because those can sometimes not be shit.
>>538176801He is smart, rich and has a good personality.
>>538176801He looks decent enough, and he's definitely no bastard.
>>538177106>fat, old, baldingC'mon anon
>>538176801>why did a woman marry a man for money and power?anon...
>>538176801>Father - round ears>Mother - round ears>Offspring - pointy earsHmm
>>538177734Her mother is canonically a half-elf. Which makes Camellia a quarter-elf.
>>538176801>dilute your pure elven blood with a filthy mongrel>child becomes a mass murdererWhat did Owlcat mean by this?
Why is Shadowheart so perfect?
Hello again you piece of shit fucker, did you think I forgot about you?
>>538175503>The balance is differentYeah things seem kind of easy right now but that may be because its the start. I'll bump it up if I feel it is too boring.>Weird thing to be stubborn aboutI misunderstood and thought you meant putting everyone on top of each other, it made the dialogue with Abelard look really awkward. Keeping them on the same tile makes sense. So far guns are fun aside from missing every now and again.
>>538181086Yeah, not so tough now that I've got a dragon, bitch!
>>538180795built for futa Aylin
>>538181862Bad post, do better
Areelu Vorlesh disguised as Jennifer English voice acting Orin disguised as Shadowheart
A high fantasy crpg with a cast of wacky squad mates and all the branching paths in the story should be right up my alley, but owlcat's boring encounter design and mistaking difficulty as stat inflation make me not enjoy the game. I still beat it twice to experience two different mythic paths but I found myself dreading playing more of this gameplay style so I'm not going to play a third time despite being curious about some of the other mythic paths.Rogue Trader massively improved on both fronts. Encounters consider things like cover and elevation, and tactical turn based is so much more fun than buffing up so you can right click attack the balor who has inflated 45 AC.I'm so proud of them improving with every game. They're doing exactly what a developer should do, learning with each installment. This isn't to say their previous games are bad, they've never made a bad game, but getting better each time makes me really hopeful and excited for the future. >owlcat working on multiple projects that all look good>larian working on multiple projects that all sound good based on info we have>several good indie games slated for this/next year including Solasta2, Clockwork Revolution, New Arc Line, and many othersWe're eating good crpgbros.
What do you mean I can't mock Lann for his reading disability? This is supposed to be a power fantasy about being a woman and therefore getting to shit on men for their vulnerabilities when they open up emotionally, without negative repercussions!
When are we getting a Greyhawk dnd game?
savescumming as aeon is justifiable roleplay
It's ok, I can be nice to him because he's just like the love interests of my monster male / human female novels.
>>538176801Impregnating your maid is a time-honored tradition across the world
>>538180795Why do you post Jennifer then call her Shadowheart? Are you one of these creepy anime fans who stalk an idol?
>>538171041Don't listen to >>538171269, at least do Greengates/Molten Scar first, see if you can get one level in. Greyfag won't do shit in any case.
>>538176801>>538177734I love Cammers
>>538171857Lich. You forsake your connections to human beings and life itself because your redpill basedbro master tells you to. Well its really a cuck + incel extravaganza but I assume that just makes it even more attractive to you.
Regongar > Amiri
>>538182817>We're eating good crpgbros.Are we? As far as I'm concerned until there's more WOTR content or some kind of pf1e game I sleep.
>>538186925https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnHtE1Kyksw
>>538186531Literally anyone > Am*ri
>>538187178Bro you're addicted. WotR isn't the peak of what it's possible to do in the genre.
Lickin Amiri's tummy
>>538188023Marrying Amiri and uniting the Tiger Lords and my kingdom just like we unite our lifes.
>>538182817based crpg enjoyer. a rarity around here
I don't remember, can you swap companions at outposts in WotR?
>>538187178wotr is the last crpg that will ever be released
>>538188884>swap companionsWhy would you ever do this?
>>538189748Don't be stupid.
>>538190059Huh? I always keep a core party that I only very briefly switch out when doing their companion quest
anyone know how to complete this thing?
>>538187496What is then, bearing in mind I'm a rabid RTWP-fag.
>>538191447>real testicles with penisveilguard
>>538187178I somewhat agree, though there are some smaller titles that I'm interested in, mostly just Swordhaven and Banquet for Fools.
NEW R
>>538192372Cuter than Yrliet.
How come he never misses?
Why did he break up with Yrliet?
>>538192794>I just need some refreshment cause I started to rust down and lose creative motivation>It’s necessary action cause as an artist I felt somewhat tired and exhausted, and the idea of Garvet x Argenta was haunting me since releaseHe addressed it
>>538192794he grew bored once he headcanon impregnated her, now he needs a new unwilling waifu to memerape(TM)
>>538192794he was bullied by 40K fans for being a Xeno lover
>>538182817>several good indie games slated for this/next year including Solasta2>good indie games>Solasta?
CRPG romance idea: a red-haired woman who dresses in red. She uses fire magic.
>>538192794She kept insisting that he put her as the primary beneficiary in his will and that he officially announce that they're married and that she buy her another lamborghini and that he let her arrest him in GTARP a few times and...
Not enjoying the combat in Divinity OS 2. Either the enemy wins initiative and rapes you on the first round or the battle eventually becomes "the floor is fire" with the entire screen filled with fire, poison, blood, etc. Why was this game so praised when it came out?
I want to paint the world Red with my precious lil Camellia
The more I think about Eldritch Scoundrel, the more I ask myself... what the fuck is the point?>bad wizard progression>bad trait progression>cant stab when zapping>cant zap when stabbing
>>538194714Because "muh exploding barrels add tactical depth".
>>538195185Utility bot also get arcane strike
>>538195505Not a better utility bot than cam.
>>538195161
>>538195185you play as a normal rogue but you buff yourself so you can save a party slot by not using a dedicated arcane buffer
>>538195968But you don't play as a normal rogue. You get fewer traits, and you need all of them.>not using a dedicated arcane bufferMeh. Just buy haste scrolls.
>>538196357>you need all of themno you don't
>>538192372i think he just pairs up with people you can't fuckgood on him for choosing the better girl though
>will never get a bromance as good as daeran ever againwhy even crpg
>>538196974>generic catty bisexual with moneyjust watch any chick flick
Daeran Arendae is like Barney Stinson. Challenge Accepted, this is going to be Legen - wait for it - DARY!
>>538190372There's a planet with (?) location you can click on. I forget which planet it is but I'll look it up later
>Play Pathfinder Kingmaker>Get to Oleg's Trading Post>Remain at level 1>Sell enough items to earn 2500 goldOh, yeah! It is time to assemble.
>>538198221i wish more crpgs leaned into richfagging as a way to deal with problems more frequently
>>538198374How much money to convince the demons to return to the abyss?
>>538198374RETVRN TO TRADITIONMake gold XP
>>538147362>What's your favorite Asian themed monster, class, archetype, etc?Ninja I guess. Most western rpgs tend not to include Asian-themes outside of monk.
>Harrim was the worst character in Kingmaker >Daeran was the worst character in Wrath The only characters I wanted to kill off immediately, didn't even want to do their questlines. Has a CRPG ever created such bad characters before? I've never genuinely disliked a companion in a RPG before those 2.
>>538198507demons use money, you just hire them against themselves
>>538190372>>538198121I found it, it's one of the trio of DLC star systems where Thessara isthanks
>>538199231The worst character in Kingmaker was Jubilost. Nobody even considers him a real companion.And yes, the entire cast of BG3 was insufferable. The game is still playable if you go solo though.
>>538199231poe2 had a pretty unlikeable party
>>538199231>Daeran was the worst character in Wrathdo not speak
I'm starting to wonder if /crpg/ posters are just insane. Either way, talk shit about my man Jubilost and I'll knife you.
When do you get vendors in RT? I'm stuck with the shitty starting lasgun and starter pistols. I wanted to dual wield pistols but their damage is so poor I'm stuck using the lasgun instead.
>>538147362At what point does a crpg lose the c and become just an “rpg”?Is it when you no longer have a team and it’s just you? When it isn’t turn based? When it’s first/third person instead of pseudo-isometric? What is the “least-crpg crpg”? The “most-crpg rpg”?
>>538199882theres an AdMech merchant in act 1 I thinkact 2 has all of them
>>538198905It’s always stood out as odd to me how often western games have black people but no Indians or Asians when the tech industry is mostly Indians/asians and the average game developer has never had a black friend.
>>538200053>At what point does a crpg lose the c and become just an “rpg”?When you get rid of dice rolls.
>>538199882Immediately after the prologue you can fly over to some pirates who sell stuff.Landing on Rykad and finishing the mission there unlocks trading with the mechanicus.Talk to the fat guy on the bridge to trade with them after you've met them.
>>538200240What if the dice are hidden?If skyrim had a hidden %chance to hit would it be a crpg?
>>538199882Oh if you blew up the pirates then their items are forever lost to you.
>>538199623Makes sense it would be there
>>538200271>Talk to the fat guy on the bridge to trade with them after you've met them.Specifically Janris Danrok the High Factotum Because his model isn't actually that fat
Summons are always cool in CRPGs.
>>538200068Thanks for the info. >>538200271>>538200475Is any of it really good stuff? I decided to pick up fish girl first and gave myself an aneurysm. Also how do I heal major injuries, 2 of my part got knocked out and are now crippled.
>>538200053c in crpg stands for cringe
>>538200963My problem with CRPG summoners is that they always end up summoning a bunch of shitty fodder. I want a class that lets you sacrifice the versatility of multiple summons to bring out a completely unique monster.
>>538201023>Is any of it really good stuff?It takes a bit of time to unlock stuff from vendors and most of it trash you don't need. Most gear, especially early on, comes from looting.>I decided to pick up fish girl first and gave myself an aneurysmThis is the correct thing to do as you can pick 2 PF if you do her first. Also she's the most powerful character in the game>Also how do I heal major injuries,Going back to the ship cures you
Dexterity or strength for two weapon fighting?
>>538201436Depends on the edition/system.Which game?
>>538201509This is the Owlcat general, you retard
>>538201509Pathfinder Kingmaker with the class being a Slayer.
>>538201327>comes from lootingIts the lasgun life for me. When will I stop whiffing?>you can pick 2 PF I'm not sure what you are referring to. I salvaged the place for parts. I shot Felek and let the other dude live but he's gonna kill himself anyway.>Going back to the ship cures youDo I need to rest like in WoTR or just get back on the ship?
Non-Owlcat CRPGs that are more than worthy of discussion:Dragon AgeShadowrunBaldur's GateTyrannyPillars of EternityDivinityExpeditions
>>538201023>Also how do I heal major injuriesGo back to the ship, no harm in doing this in the middle of a mission. And in act 2 one of your colonies has a development option that regularly gives you special medkits that remove all traumas.Also, you can access your colonies (when you get some) from a tab accessible by a button on the right side of the screen. You don't usually need to go there in person.>Is any of it really good stuff?Some of the high level stuff is ok. I find that the pirates are the least good of the merchants. The way it works with merchants, most of the good stuff is hidden behind reputation requirements. You can rep by giving them trash they like. All that shit you find in barrels. You can also send trash weapons in inventory to cargo, which is your "merchant fodder" hold.You also need a certain amount of Profit Factor for each merchant item, but you don't expend PF. You just take the item. It's like a measure of your rep as a rich guy
Non-Owlcat romances that are more than worthy of discussion:My wifeMy other wifeMy third wifeMy fourth wifeMy seventh wifeMy eighth wifeMy ninth wife
>>538201875why haven't you been discussing them then?
>>538201558kill yourself
>>538201779>just get back on the shipJust this is enough You'll find you start making more hits as you improve your ballistic skill , which makes burst fire more accurate. Lasguns are good early on because they have low recoil
>>538201779>place for partsYou mean for scraps? Yeah that's basically useless while giving up a super valuable 2 PF that's a shit ton for the early game>Its the lasgunI haven't played since launch but they sucked. Pick up a laser sniper rifle, longlas or something like that, and that's actually a really solid weapon until the second half of act 2. Pretty sure you pick up a few when you pick up Cassia.>Do I need to restNope, just need to enter and exit the ship.
>>538202149Uh oh melty, Owlcat chads and Larian chads run this place
>>538202227I wouldn't worry too much about missing 2 profit factor, you very soon get plenty more than that. Not worth reloading.And scrap is very important in the early game for recovering from space battles, and it's very hard to come by outside wreckage from space battles
>>538202426>Larian chads
The Expanse will save this general
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri CRPG
>>538202674yes, pillars and owlcat knelt to swen-based combat
>>538201023yes a lot of the stuff in that shop is really good for that point of the gameif you don't buy it before finishing the act then it's all lost foreverand you're going to be reaching way higher rep levels later so it's not like you're losing anything in the long run
>>538199710alchemist got unique spellbook and touch attacksval and amari are low strength fighters, boring power puff girls
>>538201875I want to start dragon age but I find real time with pause threatening and scary
They call me the duke of swords.
CRPG where the combat is sex
>>538203301Isn’t there some terrible TTRPG like thatFEAR or RAPE or something
The Areelu fight but you're both trying to rape one another, the one that creampies inside the other one first wins
>>538203221>using Val to hit thingsPure retardation. She's meant to stack enough AC to ignore 95% of attacks. That's what I did with her and she was always useful.
>>538203527FATAL
*Rolls for anal circumference*
Str determines whether you're dom/subDex determines your flexibility during sexCon determines your stamina and how long you lastInt increases your likelihood to get sex as a man (does nothing for women)Wis determines how likely you are to get a STD/accused of rape/muggedCha increases your likelihood to get sex as a man (does nothing for women)
Ok it's bedtime for you gentlemen, crank one out and go sleep pls
This place really is beyond saving
Name 1 thing that's wrong with my posts
I can't believe big R broke up with Yrliet after she had his hafu kid
>>538205443I question your parents' wisdom, with such a name
>>538205828what
>>538205652She tried to sleep with Marazhai for revenge but he wasn't interested.
>>538147948Yes, it's meant to remind you of power structures in medieval europe, which were complicated and based on reciprocal personal obligation.
it's /agdg/'s demo day #64, but they don't have any CRPGs
>gave sosiel brew potions feat>gave him mythic brew potions feat>didn't give him any knowledge worldlol I'm retarded, when is the earliest point I can get rid of this faggot in-story?
>>538210462>getting rid of free XP
>>538210462You can dismiss him early on?Or just respec him if the build is an issue
What is a class that has not yet been invented?
>>538210841A spellblade/sword singer version of druid
>>538210841Persuasion Rogue (conman)
>>538210841The Chuck's class has not been implemented yet
>>538210841The merchant, a utility class like rogue except instead of picking locks or disarming traps the class is all about managing the loot and funds of the party, allowing you to turn a bigger profit when selling loot and cutting you better deals on quest rewards
Which NWN do I play for modules?
>>5382117301
>>538177734>>538177890Camellia is proof that half elves are the hapa psychopaths of the fantasy world
>>538211861Thanks anon
We need more coomer classes
>>538210841street hustla
>>538212586Nah they introduced Magic Deceiver in WOTR
Borges CRPG when?
>>538210841The musketeer
>>538212683sheeit
nothing personnel....kid
>>538210979Nature fang is already a thing
>>538212683Which mythic path should I choose as Razmiran infiltrator Arcanist run?Might use this as portrait
>>538213761Trickster for flavor.
>>538213761Or thisCould serve as Aion changed portrait if they have such
>>538213978brown skin sexo
>>538213761Mechanically azata is best. Maybe gold dragon second.
>>538213978Or this. >>538213897Trickster is obvious but I heard it's too lolrandom, even worse than azata
>>538214321I guess you could go Fallen Aeon into Devil, Razmir is all about amassing riches and being a tyrant.
>>538214046Might propably do this. I have been thinking about what I should use for Azata since I used bard for my first half-blind angel -> legend run.This >>538213761 would propably be funny for following kind of one>CN gangster cultist dude who doesn't like how Hulrun dissed him at prologue so he rubs him off his list in chaos>WTF why are these hippies giving me free dragons?
i never see ninja or samurai class despite garbage ass monks forced into every game. in general just doing knock off classes of warrior like horse archer or pirate is under utilized
>>538213761fuckin slaves GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE
>>538211090They have this in the cotw mod for kingmaker.https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/archetypes/paizo-rogue-archetypes/rake/
>>538215325My dude has never played baldur’s gate
>>538210841Psychic.
>>538222032Thats just a diffent name for Psioncist
>>538222108Fine, avianThrough [handwaving nonsense] they can fly short to moderate distances and do claw attacks. Advantageous against tall/giant enemies as they can go for the eyes.
Not really that impressive compared to the classic robe of vecna
>>538201710Then STR is better. You get the two weapon fighting feats from Slayer progression if you pick the two weapon style and STR determines both attack and damage without having to invest into Weapon Finesse or getting levels into Rogue. It's also easier to buff STR than it is to buff DEX.
>>538200053In the years this general has existed, it has hidden behind a label it could never define, just nod and pretend you know the definition like everyone>least-crpg crpgVeilguard
>>538225891One day I hope I figure out what point you’re trying to make with this screencap
>>538226668I guess he’s made there isn’t an apology option idk
>>538226668You don't hate the dialogue wheel where most if not all options are saying the same thing?
>>538226992Terrible example then because those are all pretty different statements
>>538171373My team ended up looking like members of a gay bondage club
>>538227735[1] Are you sure about that?[3] Maybe you're wrong?[2] Just because you change the wording doesn't mean you're saying something different.
>>538192775>Shoots what might be her only friend on sight the second she sees her with a questionable artefact >mfw doesnt even bat an eye at me putting on the Halo Device or fucking around with ultra-heretical shit for a laugh.
>>538229040You don't have to be disingenuous about everything in a shit game to shit on it
>>538229585What's "pretty different" about these options then?>Can we stop them?>How do we stop them?>Then we stop them
>>538229932>b-but look at this completely different screencap
>>538230081What's "pretty different" about these options then?>We tried>We did. Sort of.>Don't blame us
>>538229110Because she felt bad about doing it, that's why she's not shooting you on sight. Theodora took the bullet so you could do heretical shit without the SoB immediately killing you
Why do rogue traders exist? The inquisition should just have a branch dedicated to discovering and subduing planets called the ordos planetas or something.
>>538229110Theodora's lens reminded Argenta of the evil Lenses of Doom that she'd seen before She has no context for the unspeakably wicked things you do so she therefore doesn't react.She's like a trained golden retriever
>>538230636because its fucking cool big E loved space swashbucklers
>>538230636The inquisition isn't that large. They're just individual inquisitors with wide authority. They aren't equipped to administer planets
>>538230256A reasonable amount of different emotional responses to a simple statement like>you fucked up broThe bigger problem with these is that the stupid dialogue wheel is going end up making you say a bunch of shit you didn't know you were going to say. Every choice in that game is deliberately simplistic to convey vibes instead of what you'll actually say.
>>538230636Because the Emperor himself signed my warrant in his blood, the Inquisition can cope and sneed
>>538231238>different emotional responsesJust replace the options with emojis at that point>sad/regret (We tried)>shrug (We did, sort of)>sunglasses (Not my problem bro)
>>538231850That's exactly what dialogue wheels have been since DA2Picrel is the easy fucking fix
>>538230636I'm not an expert on the lore, but I think Rogue Traders are more of a relic of the past back when the Imperium was a lot more fragmented and one of their duties was bringing isolated worlds back into the Imperium. Nowadays Warrants of Trade are issued as a reward or as a way to remove troublesome, but influential, people and send them to the far corners of the galaxies without having to outright kill them.
>>538230636Imperial bureaucracy can't even manage to collect your taxes
>>538194162this but she uses blood magic
>>538201875> Non-Owlcat CRPGsMost of them are worse than owlcuck's games. The other ones are just pretty old and were discussed a lot of times already
>>538230636I agree. Instead of Rogue Traders, some sort of special class of trusted agent, loyal only to the golden throne, with wide discretion to explore and deal with xenos as he sees fit.
>>538233885Typical of the retards at GW that they wouldn't think of this.
What are some CRPGs that will let me get comfortable with the genre? Preferably something easier but is still really good.
>>538233803WOTR is like a black hole of suck where people I share opinions with on every single other game universally love it and I just don’t get it. I’ve played it to act 4 trying to get myself to like it and I just don’t. The power progression from start to act 3 is well planned, and that’s the only positive thing I can say about it.
>Rogue Trader>look inside>no rogues being traded
>>538235159bro your jae?
>>538234978Rogue Trader is not hard and pretty fun
>>538234978BGEE on core isn't that tough, early game disabling spells are really strong and are effective for a good length into the game. the game also has so many companions of different classes/multiclasses that you'll find while playing that your never going to feel especially pigeonholded into playing 1 class or another for your PC, which can sometimes be an issue in games, kingmaker for example really wants you to make a charisma build or at least put points into persuasion because the game likes to make the PC specifically make persuasion checks and won't allow the skill monkey bard who's entire job is passing checks for the party to roll for it.
>>538201875Last time i played Pillar i find myself surrounded by unlikeable cunts. Granted that some of them were kinda based but the rest is so so cunty. Also the plot was kinda retarded
>>538234978BG2 is a good intro, and I find the plot more immediately engaging than BG1
>>538235840Can I skip BG1 for it?
Would you buy it if Owlcuck started selling "Dance action" DLC and the like at 2.99 neo skels each?
>>538235946YesIt summarises the background in the intro, and the characters that come across introduce themselves well.
>>538235946I wouldn't.
>>538235946The whole plot of BG1 doesn't carry across at all to BG2. You're not even in the same city. All that carries over is who you are and some of your companions.BG1 is overrated lately.
>Even as a shota Daeran got ss offer Some fucker has all the luck (and the fuck)
>>538236749How many times do you think galfery molested Daeran?
>>538230636The Inquisition is relatively tiny and really doesnt give a shit about new planets unless there's something on it that serves their interests. If anything they're more interested in purging planets and systems completely to clear some of their endless backlog of suspicious activities. Expansion of the Imperial domain is a combined effort mostly spearheaded by the Adeptus Mechanicus, particularly through the Navigator Guild and the Missionarus Galaxia. Then it becomes a task for the The Adeptus Administratum and by extension the Astra Millitarum, Adeptus Arbites, Ecclesiarchy and local Imperial cults to subjugate and catalogue shit of significance. The Rogue Traders are pretty rare so they're really just a funny relic of the past "trusted" to act in the Imperium's interests. In the same way that the Inquisition and its agents bend the law the Rogue Traders are considered a valuable connection to the black/xenos market and necessary for activities on the absolute fringe of Imperial law. Im sure most of Inquisitors would be quite pleased to see the Rogue Traders obliterated but its a little awkward when they have the direct undeniable blessing of the God Emperor.
after playing through the tutorial a few times to learn the system and trying out some of the classes and multiclass combinations ive concluded 3 things1.caster/cleric dual cast is very fun2.black geysers combat in general is really fun just like anons have said3.i really want to fuck this snooty bitch gilf
>>538203301Degrees of Lewdity
Starting with bg2 has to be the most retarded meme of all time.You think starting at mid level dnd with a million spells and shit you don't understand in the middle of a plot you've skipped half of is going to be a smooth experience for a new player?I get that a lot of people don't like bg1 but encouraging noobs to skip straight to the sequel when they have no understanding of dnd or crpgs in general is just retarded.
>>538226992
>>538244672People forget that a newfag will have to actually learn how to play the game
>>538202993Still blows my mind how kino it was for the lore/flavour alone (apart from that iirc it was just civ2 with improvements). Games like Stellaris wishes they had a sliver of Alpha Centauri's soul.
>>538245278It had a plot and characters, which is still rare in a 4X game
>>538214321I recently tried Trickster and was surprised that if anything its somehow less lolrandom than Azata. Its still pretty bad though and worse yet, if you played Demon and Angel which have tons of flavour and things to do its absolutely barren. You pick the path and something kinda cool and interesting happens right away and then just nothing. To be fair I couldn't even bring myself to go into act 5 with it, but as an early game path I don't want to wait until act 5 to experience it.
>>538244672It was my first CRPG back in the day, but then my brain hadn't become retarded by modern convenience and gaming so I took to it pretty quickly. Wouldn't really recommend it to anyone getting into the genre now until they've played multiple modern CRPG and are hungry for a different experience.
>>538234978Baldur's Gate 3 is an easy entry into the genre desu
>>538244672>you don't understand in the middle of a plot you've skipped half ofWhat plot from BG1 carries over to BG2?Absolutely nothing aside from you being a bhaalspawn
>Get the ranger in EotB>Her bones had fuck-all, while the fucking city guardsman died with a +5 sword>Still don't have a bow to give her with the 50 arrows I've been slowly collectingaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>538246995>what carries over other than the main plot of the trilogy
>>538246995>ruins the impact of sarevok in tob>loses the satisfying progression of going from a no name lvl 1 chump to legend, something that bg does better than most crpgs imo>have no reason to give af about the main plot of rescuing imoen because you just met her 5 minutes ago. desu I didn't care anyway but at least if you know her from bg1 it gives you a more compelling hook>you're skipping a solid game that you might end up enjoying
>>538147362Fun fact: I had no idea there was a L5R game out there.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2536960/Shadowveil_Legend_of_The_Five_Rings/
>>538247269>You are the child of the God of Murder >So is Imoen, your best friend and sort of sister That's all you need from BG1, and it appears in the intro to BG2You don't need Sarevok, or the iron crisis, or Nashkell, or trudging all over the map
>>538247627>have no reason to give af about the main plot of rescuing imoen because you just met her 5 minutes ago.I dunno, I played BG2 first and I cared about Imoen. She came across really well breaking me out and had a lot of personality.Plus the telepathic dream sequences with her.Then later I played BG1 and she didn't make much of an impression.
>>538247269>your dads a god>okriveting
>>538234978I started with DOS2, it was fun.
>>538213368What module fren?
Bloodlines bros....https://youtu.be/FmC4C8L4_uA?si=MRRrh8QCXFzY8gAD
>>538251665This is a good thing though
Replaying RTThe whole Quetza Temer excursion is pretty decentA-story>Calligos and his corruption>the lost tribe of humans>The eldar and Yrliet's spirit stoneB-Story>Idira looking for the Hidden DoorIt's pretty good. Pity that it's the only coherent part of Chapter 4
Brandon Sanderson has ruined fantasy writing in general you can really see the negative influences he has had on story telling and world building with stuff like pillars.
>>538253267what do you mean? you hate having every detail of the setting overexplained to the point it loses all magic and mystery and wielders of arcane forces become engineer type redditors of the annoying "yeah, magic science" brood?
I tell myself every time I won't get too autistic in chapter 3 but still hurts when you near the end of it and you look at your proud stacks knowing what will happen to them.
>>538254063>leave the crusade in a "nobody can fuck this up, even with stalin style human wave tactics">galfrey manages to fuck this upevery single time I interact with her I'm wondering why nobody tried to coup her before
Tyrants of the moonsea. Its pretty good so far. I feel like transferring my character from one of the authors previous modules (crimson tides of tethyr) was a mistake though.The author said thats what you're intended to do but I got so much gold and op gear from the previous module that its a little too easy. All the shops have really basic gear I have no reason to buy too.idk, it'd be tough with a fresh character but maybe that'd make things more interesting.
What the fuck is this shitI didn't break any promiseI did all the quests
>>538253267who!?
>>538254498It's just owljank code. That part is always bugged.
Obsidian=LeBron James (GOAT)Owlcat=michael jordan (FRAUD)
I wanna bust a nut in Valerie's ass
What does reputation actually do in RT?
I love Argenta and I have since the game came out (before even, technically. Ever since I saw her portrait and learned her general story before launch). When she laughs when she crits is my favorite moment in the game, and she literally never leaves my party because I love her (except sometimes I debate leaving her behind for the Commorragh mission. On the one hand, I like the idea of leaving her behind safe on the ship so nothing bad happens to her, but on the other hand she doesn't really get tortured and she enjoys blasting xenos the whole time so idk which is better). Of course I would have liked to have a romance, she's practically my ideal woman, but it's also ok that not every cool character can be romanced and she has a fine friendship arc too. Platonically praying together or holding hands romantically while praying together are both good for me.I'm super excited for Dark Heresy and I hope they either have another SoB companion, or if not then perhaps have some unique quests for the SoB player origin characters where you get to mee tup with some and do some quests with some. We've seen a portrait for at least one, likely a questgiver npc or player character portrait, which is already cool.I played a SoB in dark heresy ttrpg for years, and they're my main army for the wargame too, so I'm just super stoked any time they show up. I'm super excited for this game either way since I'm going to love a turn based 40k rpg in general.luv Owlcat gamesluv nuns with gunsSimple as.
>>538255329Let you buy higher tier stuff
>>538255329Let's you buy better goodsUnlocks certain builds for your coloniesEnding slides change if you max out reputation
>>538255329Gatekeeps higher grade stuff in merchantsAlso gatekeeps certain colony projects eg to have the Enginseers build a space elevator you need rep great than X amount (made up example)Profit Factor is basically another kind of universal rep, your reputation as a rich guy
>>538255509I agree, Argenta is well acted. I think she's so popular because of how cheerful she is. If she was dour-faced matron like pic related, acted accordingly, no one would like her as much.This pic was revealed for DH recently and it's not clear if it's a player character or a companion.
>>538256153yeah that's the one. Something tells me it's not a companion since that would be bigger news. So I'm guessing it's a player character portrait, or a questgiver or recurring npc. Every player character portrait in RT had a chartist pendant somewhere on them, so I think the rosette might be the equivalent for DH, and she's holding one in her left hand. So my money is on player character portrait, and they will all similarly have a rosette somewhere like the chartist pendants.
>>538256370>Every player character portrait in RT had a chartist pendant somewhere on themInteresting, I never noticed
>>538256498maybe not 100% of them but yeah I noticed all/most do. Like they carry one once they became the RT. It's a nice detail. owlcat artists are always solid
>>538254498I think this happens if you do not find all the farseers in Commoragh too
>>538256858I'm pretty sure I did>the one in the tube>the one stitched together from parts>the one living in the chessboard>EklendylNot a big deal, just irritates me. There was never any quest failed notification. I didn't get this on the last playthrough.
>adds multiclassingSolasta 2 will sell millions
I multiclass my level 5 Fighter with 6 levels of Fighter
>>538236749>and I... I
I think I'm just going to start carrying 10 scrolls of greater dispel magic with me. Regular dispel does fuck all against anything actually worth spending a turn and a spell casting it on.
>>538256858>>538257002It turned out that the CrudarachAeldariSaved flag was set to 2 instead of 3Upon setting it to 3, that dialogue didn't appear.
>>538258487don't buli the fanfic writing!
You're right Greybor, she will pay... with her breast size when I condemn her to becoming evil again!
>>538259162>I... You don't understand. I...So this is celebrated Ablooblooshalae
Sorry Arueshalae, there can be only one boss of this cheerleading squad!
I can't get into WH40K lore from the little I tried and what I picked up by osmosis by lurking these threads, it just sounds so silly and incoherent
>>538259507It's about the overall vibeIt's approximately consistent but not overly so, partly due to the wide range of space and time it can cover
>>53825950740k is best enjoyed with a minimal understanding, unironically.
are there samurai in warhammer
>>538259948Fantasy, yeah. Not sure if they have models though
>>538259948https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Cadre_Fireblade
>>538259948In 40k I think some assassins are samurai themed. Probably some space marines too
>>538259948No, Warhammer Fantasy has Nippon which isn't officially supported
>>538259507I think 40K is coherent by itself, but by it's so different from other Fantasy that it often sounds silly. I do think osmosis of 40K is pretty bad because the fanbase massively misrepresents the actual material.
>>538260875Yeah listening to the fanbase you'd think that only space marines and imperial guard are playable on the tabletop. Forget about playing aliens.
>>53825950740k is better when you take it for the parody it is and ignore the autists who take it extremely seriously and larp 24/7
If Owlcat had any fucking balls they'd have companions bicker constantly and eventually kill each other. I can't believe someone like Regill wouldn't try to kill Arueshalae, in game he just calls you a retard for trusting a demon, but doesn't actually do anything about it.
>>538261192It’s not as bad in the actual fanbase outside of the people who do nothing but watch lore videos on youtube. You still have the rare future shooter who’s way too into the imperium in an uncomfortable way but you get that with most wargaming stuff.
>>538261387Too much work. It was possible in BG1 and 2 but too hard for owlshart
>>538261387Regill follows the chain of command, and when the CoC says the succubus stays then she stays.
>>538261692imagine finding 60 hours in that companion X is incompatible with Y and they fight to the deathplayers would riot
>>538261387bg 1 and 2 are the only games that have done companion conflict right.If you tried to do that these days shitters on reddit would throw a hissy fit and force the devs to patch it out or something.No way I should be forced to make real choices about who to bring and have consequences, I need to see all the companion quests and funny banter!
The bg1 party potentially killing each other was interesting, and realistic.People loved the banter between Alistair and Morrigan, and people loved the showdown between Jack and Miranda. Party conflict can be fun, and it also adds realism. These people brought together by circumstance wouldn't always get along.Owlcat lightly touches on some of this by having certain characters dislike each other, but there's barely any actual mechanical representation of these feelings, like there was in bg1, and to a lesser extent mass effect.bg3 did a nice job of it. Karlach and Wyll straight up try to kill you and die in the process if you raid the grove to recruit Minthara. And certain decisions later on can make certain characters try to kill certain other characters but I don't want to spoil stuff. so bg3 had this feature.I think the most egregious example of it feeling wrong is rogue trader. As much as I absolutely adore that game in general, it really didn't make sense for certain characters to abide Marz or Uralon. Even with your special privileges as Rogue Trader, this was stretching the suspension of disbelief.
[Keldorn] [Lawful Good] I don't like drow, DIE!!
>>538259162>>538259380desu I never understood what was her plan hereshe's aware she's a demon of a very specific kind of certain reputation and knows she has to try her best to convince everyone she's super special and the first thing she does is lie and manipulate, immediately breaching trust on the very first occasionthe only logical course of action is to either tell her to fuck off or kill on the spotbut I'm thinking with my dick so succupussy
How often do you think the flail of the ages gets tangled
>>538262363>chaotic evil dwarf who loves murderno problems>drow who really hasn't done much since she left the underdark, just trying to survive a world where everyone wants to kill her. She's kind of a bitch I guess DIE!
Oh there's a "destroy uncollected loot" button, I didn't notice that.
>>538262924elves are bound to always eventually cause shit if left to their own devices
>>538262656I imagine when you have all 5 heads its a pain in the ass to wield>>538263029Thats in wotr right? I'm pretty sure that doesn't even work because owlcat lol
>>538262368She's dream drunk. I get that way sometimes after I haven't had REM sleep for weeks, and then suddenly I have a dream about living in a prosperous, high trust civilized society and having a decent apartment and working a prestigious job. If experiences inform the way we behave, false experiences that feel like reality can have the same effect. Like Mass Effect giving me protagonist syndrome for 4 years.
>>538256153One of the biggest parts of Dark Heresy is inquisition politics.If Owlcat wanted to make the game interesting this would be a rival inquisitor who takes a different philosophy than the one you work for. She would be constantly trying to get you to betray your master by offering you a place in her retinue and promising that you'll become an inquisitor yourself one day once your master has been dealt with.
>>538263241what level of schizoposting is this
Been playing Tranny's Gape 3 slowly and I have to say it's as shit as I remember it on launch. The economy is so fucked: selling magical items gives you barely any gold so the only good way to earn money is to steal it, but once you figure out how to steal things effectively there's no point in picking up anything you're not going to use since you don't care about selling stuff anyway. Latrine know less of designing game systems than Owltranimals and those are an embarrassment to the genre.And another thing that REALLY grinds my gears: the voice acting in this game just sounds so fake. Maybe I'm just old, but I can literally SEE the smug onions latte-sipping dangerhairs the moment some random NPC opens their mouth. Ugh.
>the game's economy needs to take into account my entitled bitch ass and my propensity to steal everything not nailed to the walls
>>538261387Most of these games are too afraid to include anything mutually exclusive - outside the final 1-3% of the main story - because they've seen the financial success of Bethesda's 'everything in one playthrough' approach which appeals strongly to simpletons and redditors.Companions absolutely should be either/or. Either Argenta or Idira. Either Heinrix or Yrliet/Marazhai. Either Regill or Arueshalee. They don't have to kill each other but they certainly shouldn't fight alongside each other. Just like BG3's 'bang one of us!' camp party, this kind of thing is just the developer shitting on their own characters.
>>538265590BG3's economy was better than most. As soon as you feel like you've accrued a lot of money they throw a merchant selling powerful items for 50-80% of your total gold. Hardly the most substantial criticism of that game in any case.
>BG3's economy was better than most.Kek, this latrine-slurper is deranged.>they throw a merchant selling powerful itemsWhich you steal and don't bother paying. Especialyl since the game gives you access to customizable mooks so that you can make a minmaxed thif specced and geared specifically for thievery who can pull purple 20k costing artifacts out of a merchant's inventory, kek.
>>538265949The rot started with having a "camp" where everyone hangs out and you pick which ones you're taking with you on each quest.
Why do you believe you cheating, exploiting, resorting to loopholes, and doing everything in your power not to play the game a fair criticism of game design?
>>538265949I think a middleground could work. For example if your companions ever get to the point where they're about to kill each other then you as a player can pass a few dialogue skill checks to prevent them from going along with it, or maybe have you navigate a dialogue mine field and try to find the right dialogue choices that would make your companions find a common ground. It would reward players who pay attention to what their companions are all about because you'd have to find the right words to calm them down enough.
>>538263985If they wanted to make the game interesting the flagship companions would be a Daemonhost, a Culexus Assassin (psychic blank), an arco-flagellant, and so on. Not Rambo, another-fucking-Eldar-in-'precarious-alliance-with-mankind,' and Black Science Lady.
>>538265949You don't want to make them too set in their ways. Some conflict is good, rather than just excluding combinations
>>538266271>Which you steal and don't bother paying.Do you ever, you know, role play in your role playing games?
>cheating>literally using Withers to grab a mook and use the in-game infinite respecs (which are also effectively free since you can steal mountains of gold anyway from merchants) to min-max them into a gigathiefLatriniggers were never known for their intellect.
>>538265949So parties all have to be in agreement with each other? That's boring
I defeated the evil forces of Chaos and C'Tan by uninstalling Rogue Trader, the game is too fucking easy lel
>>538266638>You don't want to make them too set in their ways.Maybe, but make it require active effort and compromise for the PC to get them to tolerate one another. And some should simply be either/or because the PC can't overcome some differences and it improves replayability.Mutual exclusivity also solves the benchwarming problem all these games suffer from. You can always just pick whatever party you like best and go with it. No difficult choices because redditors will complain.
>>538266606That's just purple-hair tier.Being an daemonhost doesn't automatically make someone an interesting person.
>mommy praise me for cheating with extra steps and stealing everything from the merchant I'm so smartBo,y I wonder why devs don't design games around "players" like you.
>use a thief to steal shit>NOOOO THAT'S NOT ROLEPLAYING BECAUSE IT BREAKS MY SHIT KIDDIESLOP GAME WITH UNDERCOOKED GAME SYSTEMS!
>take something from someone >don’t have to spend money for itwtf…
>>538266949Thief doesn't mean someone who steals It means sneaky character who can pick locks and find traps
>>538266798Are you braindead? There is an enormous space between 'lethally hostile to one another' and 'forever in happy agreement.'
>"Thieves don't steal."- Latriniggers, circa 2025.
I'm surprised he didn't show up naked for this.
What drives fully grown adults to do this playground insult shit>uhhhhhhhhhhh more like POOcat LMAOAre you not embarrassed to talk like this
>>538266916Are you being deliberately dense? No character is ever 'automatically' interesting. That's what writing is for. But some ideas have more potential than others.
I accept your shitstained concession.
Kicking someone out of the party should be a big deal. You shouldn't have a big dormitory where you can talk to everyone. If you want to pick up Jimmy again you have to go all the way to the bar on footfall to get him back
>>538267160No? What are you, a redd*tor? Some kind of iconocluck, maybe? A leldartard? A little bit of an owlcuck? Maybe even an Aruetard? Maybe a shitpoopycocksock? Hehehe
>>538267160Froggy's german, therefore he's a scatnig.
Will I be wasting my spell penetration feats if I go from fire to plasma on my kineticist or if I stick with fire and pick up pure flame?
>>538267287Love Island/Big Brother style interviews with each party member
Why does he pretend to hate owlcat now when he spent thousands of hours figuring out the most autistic ways to beat their games
>>538262349>The bg1 party potentially killing each other was interesting, and realistic.BG1 could afford that because most BG1 companions are barely companions at all - most of them are just placeholders with an associated class that you can mix and match and fit in your party for mechanical purposes. Need an archer? Grab Kivan or Coran. Need a mage? Edwin is your guy. Need a thief AND a mage? Imoen to the rescue. BG1 had 25 (!) recruitable companions. Having mutually exclusive companions is much less costly in that context. Modern CRPGs with their 6-10 fleshed-out companions can't afford that. It's a shame but it's also a consequence of players demanding more realized characters.
>>538267597>Okay campers, first party member to bring me a romanceable elf with lovemaking gets immunity for tonight's ceremony. But if you fail, you might be voted out and have to ride the boat of losers from the dock of shame.
Does this even work in real life? Do flower stores still exist?
>>538267770I'd love to have another game like bg1 where there's just a shit ton of companions. bg1 characters aren't deep but they're charming enough thanks to the great voice acting.Its nice being able to completely change up your party every playthrough.The general rpg audience would had going back to that style though
>>538268386Here's Bob, Male Human Fighter. He doesn't like orcs. Will you pick Bob or Regongar? They can't be both in the same party.
>>538259507I’m surprised you’re not getting shat on. I suppose most of the RTfags have left. The setting is dumb yeah.
>A fireball here would nicely cover 3 Gargoyles in a single hit and would probally be so ebin the females in camp would line up around the block waiting to suck my long and gargantuan dick >However it would also nicely cover 3 of my soldier >Best i can do is make it 2 soldiers instead>It would however break character as i am Good What do?
>>538268638But doctor... I'm Bob...
name drop
>>538268758You shouldn't even have fireball in your spell list if you're good aligned. Controlled fireball or nothing.
>>538268970>he doesn’t have selective favorite metamagic
I don't trust this "Early Sunset" guy, is he a devil?
>>538268970
>>538269116Maybeeee
>>538269056In act 2, before Lost Chapel?And no, I don't waste a feat AND mythic on something I will never use in the midgame. Fire Storm doesn't even hit friendlies.
40k is my favourite setting and yeah I agree it's incoherent nonsense.
Generic Kenabres Crusader#7251 wanted me to do this, he told me he would hold the demons down and sacrifice his life for the greater good and this is so ebin all the females in camp will line up around the block to suck my long and gargantuan dick
>>538266480>where everyone hangs outI think giving everyone their own secluded custom tent was a mistake
>>538265590>I am anon and I must seethe
>>538267160Real, non /crpg/ posters would unironically say something like>aRe yoU noT EmBARrassEd To talK liKe tHIs?Lol! XDWe're just goofing around
C'mon man
>>538269959
>Fortune only benefits once every 24 hoursBah, what a pointless hex. Maybe useful 5 times a mission at most.
>>538267882Flowers are more of an accent, ie something you would include at a nice picnic or dinner. They shouldn't be the main focus.And yes, they do exist. They're called florists. Most of their business iirc comes from things like catering or events (weddings, funerals, parades, etc)
>>538268638Bob, fuck orcs and fuck (sexually) octavia
>>538267882You don’t get your mom flowers for mother’s day?
>>538271585I don't live in the same country as my mother.
>>538267882>Do flower stores still exist?Anons being socially inept. Also rejecting Daeran loser!
>>538262349>Owlcat lightly touches on some of this by having certain characters dislike each other, but there's barely any actual mechanical representation of these feelings, like there was in bg1, and to a lesser extent mass effect.Except the paths where party members do fight or leave you if you pick them. I agree there should be way more conflict though, especially with how ideologically/morally opposed to each other many of the WOTR companions are.
Reminder that Arueshalae is nothing but a concoction of evil sin energy, not a real sentient person.
>>538254498>I did all the questsFor once the game made some good decisions in your stead.
>>538272334imma stick my dik into that and it's gonna make me feel real good
>>538272334More like that plus a concoction of good souls thrown in there to torment the evil part by Desna. Pretty sure she put no more thought into it than that and just to show other demons what will happen if they fuck around in her realm.
>>538271824I'm not rejecting him, I'm playing hard to get before I eventually reject him.
>CHA casters get a robe that allows them to add their CHA modifier to cantrip damage>INT casters get... nothing :DLatrine cannot into itemization.
Trying to imagine playing WOTR without Tabletop Tweaks, do people really just stack size and polymorph bonuses like mad, abuse magical vestment, etc and pretend that's not the same as just enabling half the cheats in Toybox?
>>538273235Doesn’t Arue say Desna gave her the dreams of the evil ones to show her how hollow being simply evil is
>>538273278Ok you are based now
>>538273278Who the fuck was this dude written for
a fellow player character
It took me two hours to realise that the Eldritch Archer can use the ice and acid level 0 spells as part of their spellstrike.If anyone cares about the party:Fighter: Aldori DefenderInquisitor: Monster TacticianSlayer: Spawn SlayerDruid: Defender of the True WorldMagus: Eldritch ArcherCleric: Ecclesitheurge
>>538270113it's really powerful is the thing. You can keep it up with Cackle but I basically agree with it being limited in this way due to how powerful it is.Check the Dual-Cursed Oracle, they get access to two special Revelations, basically a Fortune or Misfortune aura.
>not using companions>not using companions on what seems like a first play-throughsoulless as FUCK, dude
>>538273893Daeran is the best romance path in the game so probably people with good taste
>>538274219>You can keep it up with CackleBut RAW it will only proc on one roll. So if for instance you do a full attack, you get two rolls on the first roll, and that's it no more fortune for that character. Better to get evil eye or misfortune which you can use on enemies every fight.
>>538274493Bards also get a straight up better version as a spell
>>538274384Why would you assume it's his first playthrough, nobody would think to get a full merc party on first playthrough anyway.My first and only Kingmaker playthrough I ended up with only 3 story companions by the end of the game and I didn't keep any of them in my party either
WHAT! Get away from him you bitch!
>>538275530I can't read the bubbles they're overlapping
Solasta 2 dev recently did a Temple of Elemental Evil stream
solasta 2 devs know kino
Is Solasta 2 still an all player controlled party?
Crpg recs for someone who can't picture the apple?
>>538276672PoE
>>538269373>40k is my favourite setting and yeah I agree it's incoherent nonsense.Then what DO you like about it?
Six stats isn't enough. We need two more to cover all the things a person can do.>PhysicalStrengthDexterityConstitutionPerception>MentalIntelligenceWisdomCharismaWillpower
Best crpg is you have AGP?(other than bg3).
>>538278181>Accelerated Graphics PortIdk, pretty much anything
>>538277691The God of Gaming, Steve Jackson, said these should be the stats:>Strength (ST)>Dexterity (DX)>Intelligence (IQ)>Health (HT)(Derived in part from others:)>Will>Fright Check>Perception>Vision>Hearing>Taste & Smell>Touch>Basic Speed>Basic MoveIQ and DX are still god stats desu
>>538278181BloodlinesKingmakerNWN Modules (yes, that one)
>>538274493Oh, never mind it doesn't work as written. You get rolls as long as the fortune buff is up. So for very tough fights, it can definitely be a strong boost.
>>538277691Explain the difference between intelligence and wisdom
>>538279978autistic savant vs zen monk
Why doesn't crpgs allow me to romance gobbos?
>>538279978>INTKnowledge>WISAwareness
>>538281115Shouldn't it be the opposite?
Or rather>INTPattern recognition>WISAcquired knowledge
[Wisdom 20] 6 million in 4 years? The numbers just don't add up.
>>538279978One deals with memory and calculation.The other deals with application of knowledge and intuition.Both are limited in their usefulness by accumulated experience.
>>5382823134000 a day for 1500 days is perfectly doable.It's probably a massive waste of resources though.
>>538282313thinking 6 million in 4 years is impossible is anti-white propaganda, if black people can do 1 million in Africa for only 4 months then whites should be ashamed desu
When does Lann start his romance? Daeran's already drawn me a scented bath, if that lizardman doesn't make a move soon he'll be having aasimar sloppy seconds for the rest of his short life.
>>538253267I’ve never read his books but I completely agree and also deeply hate him for being part of the Mormon cabal that’s ruined the publishing industry and dragged the medium down into genre trash and politician biographies.
INT = I know, because I read it in a book.WIS = I just know.CHA = I pretend to know.
Is there ever a time when it isn't worth picking one of the subclasses?
Dogmachads can't stop winning
>>538284668>CHA = I made it the fuck up
>>538285142Why did he ditch Yrliet?
Why doesn't DnD have LUCK as a stat? I know it exist as a feat but I really enjoyed Fallout 1-2 and how LUCK interacted gameplay wise
>>538253267I only finish his Mistborn series but it was decent enough i suppose. Some shit was kinda asspull but i can overlook it Going over to Stormlight or whatever the fuck it is called
>>538273893me
>>538285606You literally roll a die to determine shit, anon. What more do you want?
>>538285686>stinky goblin gremlins fagsfucking disgusting, me and my childhood friend halfling gf are gonna go hold hands and snuggle
At least Daeran doesn't eat people.
>>538284984Base shifter is objectively better than any of the others for some builds, base fighter is better than anything except MW, base oracle, base paladin, base skald (no, inciter or court poet aren't always worth it). There's probably some others too, those are just off the top of my head.
>pranking your companions by polymorphing into a woman and having sex with themhaha wouldnt that be so messed up lol
>singlehandedly reclaims the crpg space from the chuds in your way
>>538287119No way fag
I'm pranking my companions by polymorphing them into sheep and having sex with them
Is it possible to romance triangle Camellia and Galfrey as a Devil?
>>538287429>doesn't even have a 3.14 tomboy brownfu to adventure with
>>538287713Just disguise Shadowheart as a halfling. She sounds like she should be a halfling.
can't devil make galfrey sign a devil contract? you legally own her soul, you can triangle her with whoever you want
>>538287892devil's path is you mindbreaking her for asmodeus who's only interest in the crusade is to make galfrey his wife
>>538288123what use is she to asmodaddyis he doing that solely to spite iomedae?
>>538288347he's doing it because he wants a tomboy queen wife
Hello, do i need to finish Pathfinder Kingmaker, before playing wotr? i got tired of kingmaker and dropped it before finishing the game.
>>538288741Not really, it is another land. You get some references here and there in WOTR but they don't really have anything to do with eachother
>>538288741nah, they are completely unconnected besides a lategame cameo and the odd refrence to each other
We need more rape options in Computer Role Playing Games
>>538285503He's just in an Argenta mood rn
>>538285503>I just need some refreshment cause I started to rust down and lose creative motivation>It’s necessary action cause as an artist I felt somewhat tired and exhausted, and the idea of Garvet x Argenta was haunting me since release
>>538285503because he's a severely autistic lolcow. I don't know why plebbit thinks giving him attention is a good idea
This is a pro Big R general, chud
Why is top-down the best perspective for RPGs?
See that Sneed? You can Fuck and Suck it.
>>538287429at this point I'd take AI slop over ugly art like that
>>538287429Why does karlach always constantly look smug?
Where the fuck is the reactor in the Gleam of the Final Dawn quest in Rogue Trader? I've been searching for the past 20 minutes and have found zero interactables or an elevator there.
>>538287429if only, you see some of them trying Owlcat games but they get overwhelmed when playing those games a lot of time
true peak performance...too.....stronk
>>538292502This is why there is less people getting into crpgs despite baldurs gate three's success, people keep recommending them stats bloated owlcrap instead of an actual game>ooohhh you like the turn based combat? Underrail is a good game with nice dynamic turn based combat >you like the complex characters motivations and personalities? You should try age of decadence, its a game about a ton of interesting machivillian schemers in a post apocalyptic sci-fi rome.
>>538292502Eh, playing BG3 and looking for similar games is like losing your virginity to the love of your life and then looking for someone better to fuck.
>>538294562You're the only one who thinks that.
Wisdom of the day: the burrs can't eat you when they can't see shit.
>>538294562It's hard find to find a weg as primitive as tranny's gape.
>blind enemies... can't see me?
>>538293826okay, but what are you gonna suggest then? BG3 should be the stepping stone for something more than 1+1 = 2 kind of game, I know women generally dislike heavy combat games which is why they generally dislike Owlcat games, so you can suggest Disco Elysium or some VN instead, but if you are a dude that enjoyed BG3 I will recommend Owlslop or DoS2 because it should be a natural transition
>>538297575Id recommend pillars over the pathfinder games
Pillars of Eternity is like a fortress standing tall and proud in a mire of shit that are the modern Owlslop and Latrineslop wegs.
Which is better? Fire and lightning both get resisted by demons, but one removes incorporeal and the other removes any damage reduction, allegedly. The bought item costs more money oddly enough.
>>538297904lol
>>538297740you might as well suggest a book at that point
>>538298015>pillars >alot of reading Maybe if you a zoomer, its nowhere near ass bad as planescape torment
[flopped game] is like so much better than [popular game] and [popular game]this is my entire personality, I just wait for people to reach a consensus then I take the opposite
>>538298313Planescape is exciting though, Pillars is Sawyer slop without the edges of Avellone
Yes, it is only natural to laugh at the malformed, grotesque parodies of the roleplaying genre that are latrineslop and owlslop excrement. Pillars is like a shining beacon of game system and encounter design that blinds all the shit-eating owlslopper and latrineslopper animals daring to turn their shit-encrusted eyes upwards and witnessing the resplendent glory of Josh's genius.
>>538297973Blitz cut, even though it's a stupid name.
>>538298690You only mentioned feces three times in your rant, are you okay?
>>538298564Glad we agree that Skyrim - a classic RPG that has sold over 60 million copies is infinitely better than Tranny's Gape 3 - an absolutely embarrassing flop compared with Skyrim's numbers.
Pillars made me snooze not gonna lie.
>>538299296>In Skyrim I can be a Werewolf with a Goblinoid companion>In BG3 I can'tOne is clearly superior
>>538298564I don’t normally do this, but I’ve never played veilguard and still violently defend it using ChatGPT because it makes people so mad
>>538299296first-person slop is not an rpg, sorry kid you're still stuck in your contrarian phase, but I heard most teens grow out of it eventually
>Wizardry is not a RPG, because it's first person!I think at this point it is safe to say that "hang latrine-slurpers" is a rational and agreeable appeal.
can't have an rpg without the roleplaying sorry kiddo
>>538300109What if I want to play the role of a floating camera???
>>538300239i play the role of someone who watches>gets in the chair
Freebooter Greybore?Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate! Yarr Harr Feverdidi! Being a pirate is alright to be, do what you want cause a pirate is free you are a pirate!
>can't have an rpg without the roleplayingYes, which is why Skyrim is a RPG since it has multi-solution quests where alternative quest solutions are locked behind character building options like skill checks (e.g. speech) and actual in-game use of skills (e.g. stealth and illusion magic).Meanwhile nothing is locked in tranny's gape 3 since you get infinite and essentially free (just steal infinite money from vendors lol) respecs that allow you to redefine your character's class and skills, not to mention being able to do the same with your party members and customizable mercs, thus allowing the player to solve in-game quests and encounters in any way they wish without being actually committed/locked into their choices. Truly, it is a sad day when shit-eating cultists venerate a dogshit weg with zero roleplaying depth (solve anything in any way you want without being committed to your character building choices) as a """roleplaying""" game.
>smug foxdidn't read a single word
Updating my journal
When you think about the issue deeper, you realize that Tranny's Gape 3 is a true tranny simulator - a game where you respec your character to whatever class/skillset you need at the moment so that you can complete whatever quest you're doing at the moment in whatever way you wish at the moment. Essentially, it is a game where character creation choices are stripped of consequences which, in turn, eliminates the very notion of meaningful choice - something that lies at the very core of roleplaying games.Tranny's Gape 3 is a true paradox - a weg that has nothing to do with RPGs since it completely lacks roleplaying depth while at the same time being the perfect game where you roleplay a tranny.
>>538284198I played as a slut who romanced every male(including Sosiel, whom I modded straight), by act 5 when I was forced to commit to one partner Lann was the only one who still hasn't dicked my commander.
>>538301780jesus chrust
>Skyrim>has multi-solution questslollmaodidn't read any further btw
>magic faction requires me to use a novice destruction spell (which it provides me in that same dungeon and I also start the game with automatically)WOAH MY CHOICES AND CHARACTER BUILD REALLY MATTER!
don't encourage him
>latrineslurper instantly humiliates himself further by shitting it its own mouthlolIt took me all 3 seconds to remember a multi-solution quest in Skyrim.
Are any of the WOTR DLCs actually worth installing or is it all trash?
>destruction Try thief guild quests where you have to actually use sneak/illusion to not get caught and avoid killing anyone. Ooopsie, another latrineslurper who knows nothing of the genre dropped a turd in his own shitstained maw.
>didn't even play the quest to know you don't need sneak or illusion for that one (or that entire guild in general actually.)
>>538302869>can still complete the quest regardless of my character building choices and can even become a guild masterSo... this is the power of player character reactivity....
>didn't even play the questOf course you didn't, child. Otherwise you'd know about Skyrim's multi-solution quests.
can I roleplay a murderhobonope, that's an essential npc you can't kill thatnice """role""" """playing""" """game""" you got there
>>538292112To own the chuds.
>no argumentI accept your heartfelt and tear-laden concession.
>mechanical consequences to my choices don't count as long as I get to complete the quest in SOME manner!I want to crack open a latrine-slurper's skull and gaze at the porridge that served the subhuman as a brain substitute.
Imagine how much better pillars writing would be if Matt Mercer wasn't involved
I'll never not be triggered by these lines. This fucking bitch.
>>538303701yes the sleep-inducing writing that hits you like a sledgehammer in the first hour is totally on Matthew
>>538302495Inevitable Excess is ok if you like high level gameplay, but otherwise it's pretty bad, although you can get some pretty broken items for the main campaign if you complete it a certain way. Through the Ashes and Lord of Nothing are alright, but they're a side story that's pretty much unconnected to the main game until the very last act where you get a pretty fun boss fight, but I don't think it's worth it for that alone. Treasure of the Midnight Isles is pretty bloated and will complete ruin the main campaign's experience and gold progression, but you get a bunch of very OP items. Last Sarkorians is the only one I'd say is actually worth, it adds a new companion, a new class, new areas and a fairly long storyline. Dance of Masks is cool, but fairly short, I'd say only get it if you like the main campaign and the companions a lot.
>no argumentI accept your shitstained concession.
>>538303503Try Morrowind.
>>538303693>mechanical consequence is just a single line of angry dialogue from an NPCWow..... I feel like my choices as a player are truly validated
>unironic critical role defenders in MY thread
>>538303701The fact that he voices 2 companions is the most annoying trash in existence. It's not like it's hard to tell either, it's maddening.>>538303825I'll try the last 2 you mentioned then, thank you fren. I played Through the Ashes and thought it was just OK, nothing special so I'm a little hesitant to try the rest.
>line of dialogue>when I'm specifically talking about mechanical consequences like alternative rewardsThis latrine-slurping subhuman is mindbroken. Bring in the next one.
The eternal debate
>>538304314Does Sawyer have a black woman fetish?
>>538304314Upper row: real people visages with imperfections that impart cahracter.Lower row: AIslop-tier anime dogshit.
>>538304314Soul vs soulless
>>538304314Upper row: UGLY!Lower row: UGLY EXCEPT THE VAMPIRE GIRL!
>>538304538>Does *insert white heterosexual red-blooded male* have a black woman fetish?Yes.>"B-but I dd-don't have one!"Then you're not white.
>>538304314>ugly vs try to make ugly characters pretty (they're still ugly)
The nasty thing about pathfinder is that you can build anything you'd like, but only some of the building blocks are actually good so you end up mixing and matching only the good blocks and creating the same characters over and over.
>>538305126Uh no I've never done that actually.
>>538304314bottom for women, top for men.
>>538305126Once you ascend to the level of trve vnderstanding, you will realize that nothing in the party matters aside from a well-built and supported DC caster so you can play whatever retarded memebuilds you want as long as you have a smug fox proning entire rooms with a single cast of level 2 spell.
>>538304553How does Ydwin having an underbite "impart character"? What the fuck? Funny thing is that they did eventually anime-ify her portrait.
Chain lighting>fireball
>how does having X imperfection instead of looking like a plastic anime doll impart character?By more closely resembling an actual living person instead of triggering the uncanny valley feeling.
>>538305234Really?Well I keep asking myself >how do I get a source of barkskin that isn't Camellia or Arueshalae?And the answer is always either a druid or one of the classes that's already in the game as a companion, but without the thing that lets them cast barkskin.>What about hunter?Not taking fucking dips into hunter.
Ydwin is so beautiful and I love nerdy researchers and I love vampires. I want to help her with her research all day and be the best research partner she could ever want, and then at night she can sink her fangs into my neck as we drift off to sleep holding hands.Sawyer....just this once.....let us hold hands with the companions....you can make an exception...I've bought literally every game you've ever made...
It's funny how one throwaway Obsidian sidekick has more SOVL than the entire cast of Tranny's Gape and Rogue Tranny combined.
>>538305817This is why I never talk to attractive women, they're sooo uncanny and icky!>>538305862>This portrait looks like X so I'll pick thatIs my only thought process honestly.
Or even more pertinently, how to get barkskin available on a non-wisdom character without taking oracle nature or druid feyspeaker? Loremaster. So it all just comes down to the same exact building blocks every time.
How do I get a Ydwin gf irl?
Sawyer must have been cucked IRL with his disdain for romance and his obsession over 'if I ever did one seriously, I want to focus on the bad parts'
>>538306680Nah he's just Californian.
>>538305126The really nasty part is that if you have the audacity to play any of their shit blind you make one of the 95/100 useless builds and are fucked.
>>538306680It could simply be that he's not confident in his ability to write romance. Not every author is great at everything.
>>538305401…gross, you’re supposed to do the opposite
>>538306680He's just a homosexual who was born into a fag-hating family of mormonsIt's why froggy simps for him so hard
>>538305817incomprehensibly shitty post, made me dumber just trying to read it>>538305865excellent post, a true connoisseur's opinion, I feel warm and fuzzy after reading it
>>538305406The only time I’ve had fun in an owlshit game was when I had a fox trap 30 people in 10 acid pits at once
>>538306680He literally doesn't want people to enjoy romances and has explicitly explained thisAs for why, it's probably that he was cucked but in classic nerd fashion 'cucked' means he never did anything and then his crush eventually got involved with someone else
>>538306883Most recommended builds for the basic classes aren't useless, it's when you try to make an alchemist/oracle mystic theurge to be your party buff bot or even worse, a sword-and-board aldori swordlord to be your tank that you run into problems.
>>538306680We have this discussion every other thread. He doesn't dislike romance, he simply dislikes catering to the player character power fantasy too much. It's a good game design philosophy.
>>538308324Everything he writes is boring trash so who cares.
>>538306680writers only write what they know, so probably
All these years later and people still made about Cass from New Vegas huh.
Love for a woman is one of the most pathetic motivations you could attach to a hero. Think of all the great figures who moved history. They were driven by ambition, a desire for glory, love for the gods, love for their nation, and so on. Sawyer understands this.
>>538306680Not everyone wants to fuck pngs or 3d models
>>538309047Actually I made about Veronica, I should have been able to pure pressure her into petty sex since she is so naive about the world even if I am a man and she is a dyke.
>>538308061>blind>recommended builds>blind
>>538309047>be courier six>have lady killer perk>use it on cass>tells you she NEVER fuck you and then goes on to fuck random NCR soldiers >use it on veronia>can't because she's a dykeNice roleplaying.
>>538309047>>538309391Why are you replying to yourself ESLfren?
I can't get over how much better Angel is to Azata storywise, its unreal>best music>you gradually put together a team of legendary heroes and angels, great camaraderie>closer with Inheribro than any other path>epic moments where the power of the heavens and your angelic companions simply smite demons fucking dead, no bullshitMeanwhile azata>annoying reddit dragon>lolsorandom totally forgettable companions>gets trolled by fucking cuck devils>one epic moment across the entire game (slave markets)
When the thread gets this autistic about romance you just know its literally one fucking schizo samefagging like mad. Very tiresome.
>>538309494Yeah the game gives you recommended builds automatically, you're not less blind for picking them instead of just randomly pressing buttons on character creation.
Didn't read. Chadzata is inherently better than snoygel, because you get two unique cutesune characters to hang around with: the artist fox and the white ninja fox.
Should I play Veilguard?
>>538309683Azata's storyline is very weak and undefined as well, you kinda just goof around with the annoying hippies until stuff happens out of nowhere.
>>538264518By the way since you're an azatafag just so you know you're banned from ever blogposting here again if you don't pull off the slave market the way its meant as an azata.
Wait, does the game see mithril medium armor as light for the purposes of feats or is that a bug that's been fixed?
>>538308324>he simply dislikes catering to the player character power fantasy too muchI sorta get it, but why even make the games he has made then? Outside of maybe Pentiment (haven't played it) all his work is pure powerfantasy gameplay wise
>>538310323You can't ban me, the winds of freedom are forever at my side.
>>538310116>>537963093
>>538310084There is more to life and crpgs than cute fox characters.
>>538310325No it's always been that way and is intended. Mithril heavy armor for example will use any medium armor feats but no use any heavy armor feats.
>>538309047I never had cass or veronica with me for long periods of time, its never really bothered me. I usually roll with boone and ED-E when I play
>>538310568kys mintharafag
>>538310568Good post!
We should be able to fuck fox girls in CRPGs. Unicorn Overlord let me. Why can't western devs copy Japan?
>>538310665Jesus christ. No way I'm getting greater shield focus over light armor focus then. Mythic light armor focus traits seem insane.
>>538310994>western furries>some obese fuck in a tiger suit>japanese furries>[touch fluffy tail]
crpg gamer challenge (impossible): have sex IRL
>>538310994I want Vanillaware to make a CRPG because they make cool fantasy shit but then I remember they'll never ever do a PC port even if it would save their company from bankruptcy.
>>538310116Yes, if you're a writer who wants to understand what low quality writing looks like.
Rate my party>MeBladebound >RegillBeast Rider (Wolf)>GreyborShield Bash>Woljif Blaster>ArueshalaeSniper>EmberHealing and buffing
>>538311483Real!
>>538312030Don't even need to play it, just watch some of the cutscenes on Youtube, especially any containing that ugly Qunari creature. Greatest tutorial on how not to write characters I've seen.
>>538312128>using gaybordon't care
>>538312696He's a meme character but a shield bashing slayer is still a very good frontliner.
>>538310116>Should I play Veilguard?
>>538311483Getting a escort isnt hard
>>5383114832dpd thoughever
>>538313078Why get shield bash when you can just let him have two weapons? If you're not using a tower shield specialist, shield + armor will never compete with dodge + magic + uncanny tanks.
>>538312128Woljif bullied Ember and doesn't deserve to live.
>>538313850Ember likes getting bullied its fine.
This is kind of on-point for a companion to an azata KC, right?
>>538147362>Choose azata >Spend time hours doing the gayest possible quests for a bunch of smelly art hippies
>>538313850Basically everyone bullied Ember, it doesn't mean he's a bad person.
>>538314460Yeah, unfortunately one of the most useless curses. Mirror image is always okay I guess, at least if you have communal mind blank.
>>538314668>choose the friendship is magic friends real journey was the friends along the way route>surprised friendship is indeed magic
Isn't it a little overwhelming to have all of your class feats and then have to deal with mythic feats and abilities on top of that?
>>538313850she forgave him. I wish they had a shared ending because its cute seeing woljif be emberassed and feeling bad for bulling her in the past when he was a dumb teen
>>538314678Seelah and Arue don't. Not even Daeran does, and he's a cunt to everyone.
>>538315036Yeah its really cute
>>538314724I'll get it because it's on-brand and for faerie fire. With nature mystery it will give her all the necessary druid spells.
>>538315036wenduag also weirdly respects ember because she thinks embers is some stone cold street urchin thats just pretending to be a moralfag to survive
You know what's missing from WotR? Mythic ability to switch weapon as a swift or free action, not unlike what BG3 has by default.
>>538314893No?
>>538317203The only time I ever switched weapon in Pathfinder was to kill those bug swarms with torches.
>>538315036Seelah constantly calls Ember dumdum
>>538317203I don't think it should be a mythic ability, just a regular feat, but yes I think so too. I would actually make more use of weapon slots if I could free action it once a round.
>>538317997She's very protective of her though, there's a whole big sister dynamic there.
>>538317546That's because you don't come up with creative and versatile builds like me.
>>538318013>>538317203I believe TabletopTweaks actually has that.
>>538318438I'll probably use that mod for my next playthrough on Core, 2-3 years from now, since I'm going full plate mail paladin anyway.
>>538277364It's fun and is a sobering reminder that all of our great works of science and culture may come to nothing in forty thousand years
>>538313620>twice the sales of owlslop excrementAHAHAHA
>>538318896If you're worried about balance you could install it and turn literally everything off except adding that feat, its very customizable.
>>538315036The only one who's outright mean to Ember is Camellia, for some reason.
I don't need her robe as an INT caster anyway ;)
What do people commonly use Toybox for? I installed it for my first WotR playthrough because I kept seeing people say it's borderline essential, but I'm in Act 3 now and haven't felt the need to use it once.Bubblebuffs is marvellous however and exposes a very bad flaw either in Owlcat's design or the Pathfinder system itself.
>>538262368She says she does it precisely because it's her nature to lie and manipulate. She didn't even need to, what she wants you to do is also in line with what you should want to, her willpower just failed her there for that moment and she reverted to doing typical succubus stuff.
Daily reminder that:1. If you are spending a lot of time pre-buffing, you need to just turn the difficulty down.2. You shouldn't really need to prebuff much on Core, hardly at all on Normal.
>>538317997>>538318270I honestly really like the relationships between Seelah and Ember because it's so... I don't know what's the term in this context. Bipolar? On one hand, Seelah likes Ember because she's a good kid that likes to help people and who believes in the best of everyone. She gets super hype too when Ember actually manages to get demons to reconsider their evilness. On the other, Ember is constantly blaspheming and being a militant atheist and that just grinds on her, so sometimes she has to contain her urge to call her a little shithead. I find it both entertaining and like it gives depth to Seelah.
>>538324612In RT I use it for simple quality of life things, like allowing comments for companions not in the party
>>538324612For me its two things, tweaking XP multiplier so I don't have to autistically fuck around with the games share xp setting (I typically run smaller parties) and disabling inventory weight because I just can't be bothered with inventory/weight management in a game where you also have to obsessively loot and/or destroy every item on a map to reduce save game size and where there's multiple loading screens any time you want to sell your loot.I guess there's a couple of small QoL settings that are nice too.
>>538269959It's kind of suspicious that Cam is occasionally found around a dead body
>>538306680nerd in california100% chance he got cheated on at least once
>>538325389Every game should have ToME's transmogrification box that automatically loots everything and checks if you want to keep it before moving to the next location where it's converted into gold.
Why do women love cucking people?
>>538332557You know we can talk about something that's actually interesting if you want.Play any crpgs?
>>538306680I have a strong suspicious he's closeted but in denial. Alsohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M3Fa3CM2Gw
>>538308324>he simply dislikes catering to the player character power fantasy too much.He says this yet most Obsidian games are always about making you the chosen one one way or the other from the very start of the game. Videogame writers will talk about not wanting the power fantasy, but they seem deadly allergic to doing Gothic-like stories.
People not being sexually interested in each other is unrealistic, be that towards PC or other characters. PC is a 'catch', so it's absolutely logical to lust after Bhaalspawn's cock, for example. Sex is the most important part of life, any biological life is obsessed with progeny. Thus, Sawyer is a fucking impotent.
I cannot imagine what life must be like for some of these people who quite literally, for many hours a day, can think of nothing but 'cucking'.Really, turn off your screen for a minute, take a deep breath and look around your room. Ask yourself if this is where you always saw yourself in life.
All the sex in my grimdark fantasy setting?Consensual, of course.
romancefags ruining another thread
>>538333053No one has ever been sexually interested in me so I'd say it's plenty realistic.
>>538333358You're not the main character however
>>538333053>Sex is the most important part of lifeSee >>538309292
Why don’t you faggots just read a Danielle Steel novel like you obviously want to good lord.
>>538333358t. npc
>>538333145Don't even try to empathize with them. They're not really human, just homunculi.
>>538309292Napoleon was driven by simping for Josephine
https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Judgment_of_the_GodsHow come I never received this quest? In her previous quest(where Valerie is acting bitchy towards everyone because she's not as pretty anymore) I picked the lawful evil option(telling her to stop being a cunt and pull herself together) that failed it, could it be related?
>>538333053impregnating fictional women is not proving your potency lmaoing
Is commuting a female criminal's sentence from death to rape and release a good or evil action?
>>538333541No need to (you) me your homosexual post, puer aeternus.
Stop trying to destroy crpg discussion.There's no benefit in doing this.
>>538333749If you won't impregnate those pixels, someone else will. Are you a kek?
>>538333145What if I think cucking is hot
Do romancefags realize that developers are beginning to hate that kind of cheap crpg romance specifically because of them
>>538333958based Arueshalae
>>538333979No they are super autistic
>>538333863Ok what would you like to talk about mister pro gamer
>>538333679Yeah, his military genius, ambition and desire for immortality were all because of a woman. Oh wait, he later divorced her and lost none of these traits.
>>538334141He never forgot Josephine you HACKHe married the daughter of the Emperor of Austria for political reasons>lost none of these traitsThen why did Waterloo happen
>>538333979Nah it's just Sawyer. Other devs know what's up.
>>538333863based jae
Is this why we have so many spergs who get triggered by poe.
>>538334741Probably
>>538333979There's been no decrease in the amount of RPGs with romance, only an increase, for nearing 20 years now. Like it or hate it they clearly help sell games and BG3 getting big in part due to the amount of sex and how much people wanted to date the cast will have an impact too.
The only good romantic moment in WotR is on the Aeon ending where you let Galfrey finally have the normal Queenly life she always wanted by retconning the Worldwound and leave her her memories, with her choosing to die single rather than love again.
>>538335446Enter Obsidian games
Every night before I go to sleep, I whisper to myself as a prayer:Solasta 2, Swordhaven, Banquet for Fools...
>>538336404>>538336404
>>538335446>the amount of sexWhy do you all pretend to play games
>>538335756Aeon is too retarded to have any good moments.It's full of lawtism. That is to say the image of adherence to rules while being as contradictory and inconsistent as possible.
