Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #8613 - Suffer Edition==NEWS==>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Animationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocBa8jTXUA>TailsTube #13 - Pit Crewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiYfo0Wy2NA>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk 7 | Dr. Eggman, Zavok, & Zazzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX7MOcp_ZX4>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayedhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/==Comics Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 22 October 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 5 November 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 26 November 2025Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zone>Sonic The Hedgehog Onlinehttps://archiesoniconline.com/>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ cytube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>538124540
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CrossWorlds dialogue datamines:https://pastebin.com/kAx2DP5c (EN)https://pastebin.com/0vg53isp (JP)
hear me out
Real!
>>538167938lol get rekt, SECOND!
>>538167836
>>538167836The hatsune miku art about sonic fucking miku was great.Even the joke ones, like pic related
>>538167958>Sonwel>jewnic
>>538168210Maekawa has spoken. Sticks is the third member of Silver's team. Not Cream. Not Marine. Maekawa's word is law.
>>538168210Fang, bark and bean maybe?
>>538168114Calm down, Jet
>>538167938Ah geez, oh I didn't know, thanks man.
>>538168107AH, FAG
thoughts
I want to handle the curves
>>538168174Rouge ai bros can you do another Sexy Sporty Rouge getting groped
>>538168198>jewnichmmmm....
>>538168316>Maekawa's word is law.He literally threw out Sonic of classic games and made it entirely his own OC. Literally Ian but Japanese.
>>538167836>they/themkill yourself tranny
>>538168210... Anon? What the fuck is the date on that?We all know Sticks is DEAD now.
I SEE YOU
>>538167958Nah jewel is fine as a massive girl who just blueballs you, even if she doesn't notices.Make me wonder in which kind of guy she could be interested.
>Maekawa saying a vaulted noncanon western character is the third member of Silver's teamwhat the fuck kind of everythingfaggotry is this
Me(a proud cuck) watching my favorite shipping being canonized in front of my eyes(they're fucking in front me)
>>538167836Sonic x Hatsune = Cirno??
>>538168852ugly mutt
>>538168645Dingo the Dingo from Sonic Underground is the ideal boyfriend for Jewel. He is very big, ugly, and orange with an amorphous body. This contrasts Jewel who is small, pretty, and blue with a solid shell. They are the perfect couple. His dick is probably the size of her entire body.
>>538168645While suggestive Jewel pics activate my neurons, I want to hit motherfuckers with a monkey wrench whenever they save the mobile version instead of originals.
>>538168945>Cirno>Sonic spelled backwards is CinosYou might be onto something.
>>538164768>Once riled, Blaze casts off her cape and fights,Holy shit, that's straight out of the internal doc...
>>538169080>monkey wrenchOh. Monkey Khan should be Jewel's husband.
>>538169080This doggo needs correction
>>538168945that's hatsumi sega from neptunia
>>538168560Hello based department?
>>538168589Go get fucked by your husband womanhttps://files.catbox.moe/a729yi.png
The Sonic franchise seriously needs an enemies to lovers arc
>>538169169>Due to her trauma of being bullied when she was a child for her abilitySo she's Sonic, Knuckles AND Tails.
Fuck Heroes 2, give me Rivals 3/ Chaotix 2/ Advance 3 2:>Blaze and Marine>Shadow and Silver>Mighty and Ray>Amy and Cream>Metal and Sage>Orbot and Cubot>Tangle and Jewel>Surge and Kit>Lanolin and Whisper>Elise and Sonic-Man
>>538169773The truth is she wouldn't fuck Sonic because he's broke
>>538169641We'd have one if people stopped memeing Shadouge when Sharia will always be.
>>538169652>trauma of getting bulliedHow much of a pussy is she?
>>538169845But how about a king?
Will Belle be lobotomized like Metal Sonic if she decides to join the Eggman empire?
>>538169641Sonegg…
>>538169902Sonic and Rouge bickering in Battle was hilarious. It's a shame they don't talk to each other ever again in the games.
>>538169924Anon... she's a cat
>>538169452>straight EliasAre you serious my dude?
>>538169652Truly, a Leech she be
>>538169957>Didn't know him all her life so there is no westermack mental effect >He's richoh no
Kit
How come Mario never had classicfags?
>>538170432it just werks
>>538170201Why is the love for cock in the Acorn bloodline so strong?
>>538170585Because Jewtendo has been consistent with Mario and sometimes made it explicit whenever something takes place in a different timeline.Ex: Mario in Odyssey and Mario vs. Donkey Kong take place in 2 different timelines.
>>538169169Noooo! NUOOOOOOOOH...!Everyone KNOWS that the old licensed guides were just making poopyfarts up! They didn't communicate with Sega like I did! That's why you need to expunge the record and replace all those citations with my book! THIS I COMMAND!
>>538167836>/sthg/ #10000 Project Threadhttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>>538169080Then, be the guest and post the original instead of whining like a bitch.
>>538170820This meme sucks it's way too wordy.
>>538170790>Mario vs. Donkey KongI thought they said that DK in Mario vs Donkey Kong grew up to be Cranky Kong, and DK Junior grew up to be the current DK?
>>538170685The Acorns are very smart they understand the laws of nature, they know the humans are vastly superior than them in every possible way. Elias was the first to acknowledged this
>>538171035
mommy
ELIAS HAS A WIFE HE ISN'T GAYHE TRIED TO ERADICATE DEMOCRACY ONLY STRAIGHT MEN DO THAT
>>538168210>>538168316>>538168332>>538168586Guys he just mixed up Sticks and Marine
>>538168645Some artist started to ship her with bark, and it just works incredibly fine.
>>538170820>Q:Okay, genuine question: When Blaze "dies" at the end of Silver's route in '06, she actually goes to the Sol Dimension, correct? If so, that means her backstory of being born into her royal family wouldn't make sense, because '06 happens before the Rush games. Was she reborn into that dimension, with fleeting memories of Crisis City that she remembers in Generations? Is the Blaze from '06 a completely different Blaze?Ian: I can't get too much into it because this is kind of internal stuff that has not been clarified publicly but Sonic Rush comes first, the Blaze of 06 is the Blaze of Rush and she doesn't die, she turns into Burning Blaze and warps back to her own dimension and forgets the events of 06.
THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONICI WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYINGI WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFOREI DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHITGENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
>>538168476No he didn't. He acknowledged that he can't compete with Sonic's original appeal and adapted to it
TOY
Silver merch on top baby!
>>538171285Proof?
>>538169080>whisperposter>throws a tantrum and cries, for posting a bad quality image>doesn't share the actual pic.Fuck you man, you're part of the problem.
>>538170820It's also on the SEGA-operated website Ian you shifty shit >>538164215
>>538171217>TRIED TO ERADICATE DEMOCRACYThat's a crime and you know the phrase "be gay do crime"
>>538171698PSYCHIC FART
>>538171698She's gonna hurt herself if she gets against his quills.
>Getting shipped with characters other than your actual canon spouse Been there
>>538171558Now I want to see Silver topping Sonic, Sonic topping Shadow, Shadow topping Tails
>>538171768Not wrong though. You know how Japan works. There's a reason all their entertainment shit is just moe girls with dubious ages.Crossworlds ONT showed Cream as highest on usage there. You're naive if you think that doesn't has to anything with lolicons and pedos there.
>>538171768Twitter thinks we are as bad as this guy because we are all proshippers.
>>538171768>Sage is pedobaitWtf I love Sage now???
>>538170201Be gay thenhttps://files.catbox.moe/jar4c0.jpeg
>>538171768>Archie poster telling us what to doOpinion inmediatly discarded.
>>538171585NTA, but it's happened before.
>bestie
>>538172270Enjoy the vacation, Anon!
Jesus Christ. What is wrong with her?
>>538172595This is what it looks like when you base your entire life on having a crush on someone.
>>538172552What
>>538172379Nobody asked and you're showing insecurity.
Imagine wanting to work for IDW and get paid like crap.
>>538172715Fuck you, nobody likes you dead gay archie character.
As the series evolved in the early 2000s, some of the games started to take a more serious, darker, and deeper tone, starting with SA2. I am fine with that. It was a natural evolution of the series. I like that style. I want to see more games in that style. But some people didn't. Some people hated that style. That is also fine. They can have their own preferences.Starting from Sonic Generations, SEGA overcorrected, and came up with a new style that exaggerates the cutesy and bright aspects of the series. I am ALSO fine with this style. I like it. I like cutesy stuff. I think the Modern/Classic split is good, because it allows to satisfy the demand for both styles.It should also be noted that the "Modern" branch is allowed more variety. Modern can be both exaggeratedly cutesy and exaggeratedly serious, but Classic is a lot more rigid.What I am concerned with is the in-between. Before Shadow 2005, there was no hard separation, and before Sonic Generations, such separation wasn't officially acknowledged. Nothing that has come out since 2011 properly fits the original style of the series like all of the 90s and most of the 2000s did. I want a new Sonic game in the style of the classics, Adventure, or Unleashed. That's not to say all those games are identical, there are differences between them, but I think they are more similar than they are different, while Frontiers and Superstars ignore the series' baseline identity to go in extremely different directions. The rigidness and extremely cutesy nature of modern Classic Sonic is not "how Sonic was before Shadow was introduced", it's more like an exaggerated parody of that. That's okay. I don't dislike any of these styles, but I also like the original style that's in the middle, and I'm afraid the Modern/Classic split, and particularly the rigidness of Classic, is preventing us from getting games in that style (which could easily fit Modern, but I think could also fit Classic if they weren't so rigid)
>>538171470>uuuh no he just [did exactly what I meant]>"""adapted"""I don't remember Sonic on classic acting as sperg, but go off, gook cock sucker.
>>538172832Is Shadow gay
>>538171558If I see anyone wearing a Silver shirt in public I’m pointing and laughing at them as hard as I can
>>538168645Does anyone have the source of this image? Is really cool.
>>538168754The kind of everythingfaggotry I live for.Now we just need Naoto Ohshima and Maekawa to come together to ship Sally and Shadow.
>>538172832Ultimate Weapons always look so stupid compared to base weapons in RPGs.Like the Ultima Weapon in KH, toothbrush lookin ass thing
>>538172657So that's what half the posters in this general look like?
>>538173036It's AI shit
>>538172941This is disingenuous and you know it.
>>538172869Obsessed.
>>538171558Why does Shadow have a pink tee
>>538172995>everyone is wearing it except you.
>>538171396Sonic Team is dead set on ruining Blaze. Using Maria for this kinda shit is one thing but attaching all this bullshit is devestating towards using her as an actual character. Like you can't be anything but a plot device at that point.
>>538173098Really? Wow, is getting kinda hard to know the difference depending on the artstyle and thay sucks.
>>538173149
>>538173106You're the one being disingenuous with dancing around Maekawa literally admitting he never liked Sonic and just remodeled him into his OC. Takes even a numb smoothbrain to notice Sonic on classic was silent and calm and never the retarded self he took on Dreamcast and beyond.
>Sonic Team says Rouge is not a GUN agent >Sonic X portrays Rouge as strictly being a GUN agent for the first two seasons >She is openly employed by GUN and talks about it in multiple episodes>She even attempts to arrest Eggman at GUN point because it is her JOB because she is an AGENT OF GUNwhat the fuck happened
>>538172832>all have hilts that resemble the emeralds each character is associated withNeat
>>538173489>Maekawa literally admitting he never liked SonicThis happened>and just remodeled him into his OCThis never happened. Maekawa said the complete opposite of that. Maekawa said he gave up on changing Sonic and accepted him as he isYou never read that interview.
>>538171768Furrybait
>>538171982Man, mina being an unpopular ship with tails will always suck. They were such a cute marriage with cool children.Solid pairing.
>>538173098Bonsoirdude
>>538173582>This happenedCool, glad we agree. Don't know what took you so long to concede, but it's okay, must be your autism or something.
>>538173504She's "part-time" whatever the fuck that means.
>>538173149for some real reasons
>>538173042if shadally ever became canon i would declare war on the entire sonic fandom and myself
>>538173637They were an out of left field pairing that only existed in the good future AU. Their kids were cute though. The best next gens besides Lara herself.
>>538173582jap purist retard-kun...
>>538167836>theytranny
How can anyone hate that
>>538173504The honest truth is the characters are all in a constant state of flux and what they are or aren't is going to vary from game to game.
>>538173704No, you are lying. Read the full quote.https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/creators-interview-006-maekawa-shirou/>I actually didn’t like Sonic in the Mega Drive era. To be honest, we just weren’t compatible. So when I was brought in to SA1, I was determined to make the Sonic I liked, and I did a lot of crazy things (like dropping a tub on the head), but in the end, I was just dancing in the palm of Sonic’s hand. He has a long reach. I can’t compete with that.>but in the end, I was just dancing in the palm of Sonic’s hand. He has a long reach. I can’t compete with that.>He has a long reach. I can’t compete with that.>I can’t compete with that.>I can’t compete with that.>I can’t compete with that.>I can’t compete with that.>I can’t compete with that.Stop spreading misinformation, STUPID FUCKING RETARD.
>>538173637Tails Mina has some of the cutest art of any rarepair
whats up with all the porn in this fandom
>sperglord alert.
>>538171768He's right. I main cream and will main sage in crossworlds because i want to fuck them and i want to fuck them because they are cute little girls
>>538173941>tranny lover ship>non canon>supported by retards who hate silver or blaze
>>538171982
Molesting every /sthg/ poster.
It’s funny that the second Sonic Team touches Unreal Engine it’s very obvious they’ve never heard of half the features it has like lighting.
>>538173637I bet if we ever got a backstory for them it would be the most sugary sweet vanilla love story a person could imagine
>>538174023>franchise with animal characters>surprised there's porn
>>538173941Why is the best Silvaze smut always hidden?
>>538174317CW being as good as it is gives me hope that later games using it will be good
>>538174014Everything tails touches becomes either something very heartwarming or some unspeakable porn abomination.
>>538174179You can't molest the willing.
>>538174179Keep back, stinky!
Sonic - Speed = Big
>>538174474For every imirai there are seven hundred gabs that just want Silver and Blaze to be uwu cute together
One of the things I miss about griffith era Sonic is that he'd say a lot of idioms but not a lot of actual jokes"It's now or never!" "Time to rock and roll" "
Silver and Blaze would work better if the whole mirror duo from two different worlds thing was better established instead of most people believing that Blaze is from the future because 06 never bothered to explain anything.
>>538174629FI DOES NOT SMELL
>>538174715I thought that was "cringe" to you people
>A monster with a diving suit? Yeah sure LOL!
>>538174806Oh, well in that case.... :)
Tails!
Surge tentacle rape
>>538175031I was a child in the 2010s. It was not cringe. Sonic is the greatest character of all time.
>>538173806Antoine and bunnie kids were fine to me, to bad about how they originally colored both wrong when they were supposed to have the inverted colors of their parents.>>538174014Yeah at least the few art both have together is top notch.>>538174351>I bet if we ever got a backstory for them it would be the most sugary sweet vanilla love story a person could imagineDaamn you're right, thats makes me sad and angry at the same time by how cute their love story could have been.
Tails and Kit
>>538175380https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=14581
>>538175380Kit...
>>538175308Tairusu-sama>>538175536Kitto-sama.
>attention whoring fionafaggot came backno willpower.
>>538174528Why not both?
>>538174629Fionasisters...we've been BETRAYED by that rascal!
>>538174165The fuck is even happening in this pic, besides the Nicole satam concept
>>538175739Shut up and pass another beer.
>Hontails>MintailsI can't choose
>>538175945>I can't chooseWhy not both?
>>538172937Sonic Team doesn't understand that classic Sonic is a quarantine. I agree I don't want pre-Dreamcast perse, Adventure, Rush and even Unleashed are fine, I just don't want this kind of stuff >>538173258. The problem really is/ was that the vision of the non-founding Sonic Team old-heads is fucking insane.
>>538175938That big enough for you, red?
>>538175945>hontailspornship>mintailscolorship/pendership
>>538175945Why not both.I love both for different reasons.My headcanon is how both honey and tails have a rivalry for tails affection, whiles sonic laughs how his brother landed worldwide famous girls, comparing by how much of a inexperienced guy he is in terms of love.
>>538176216That will do, and i'll take the vixen as well.
Douge
>>538176354Nine will fuck them both while Tails watches.
>>538173637One anon looked into the alleged "Amy was the original ship" idea and found no trace of it >>538047493>>538174351Believers of the Tailsmy rumor thought "hey what if Amy died" >>538024836
>>538168645
>>538176354>My headcanon is how both honey and tails have a rivalry for tails affectioni hate this because eventually someone will win and someone will have their heart broken
>>538176550>eventually someone will win and someone will have their heart brokenSimple fix: Polygamy route.
>>538176506Thats not a rumor at all, Karl bollers even said on some fan podcast his original plans until sega blocked the idea.Sadly, he never fully elaborate what was going on.
NO TOUCH FOXOOOOOOOOOYOU TOUCH FOXO YOU DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>538176013Personally I don't mind the styles and variety, or the characters being used in different contexts. There is no guarantee I'll enjoy everything, but I am okay with that. They can experiment all they want. I just don't want the original style to be erased. I think Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3&K, Adventure, the Hero Side Story of SA2, the Advance trilogy, Rush, Rush Adventure, Unleashed and Colors (humor aside) are all similar or similar-ish enough. I would like something like that again, but instead we're more likely to get extreme variations on both sides
>>538176354>My headcanon is how both honey and tails have a rivalry for tails affection,Imagine not wanting Tails x Tails
>>538176354Mina is confident and romantically aggressive. She is likely the one who came onto Tails first. Especially if it's Archie Tails who was cocky and actively becoming like Sonic as the story progressed.Honey is harder to guess. She is extremely confident in Archie, but as we know her Archie personality is likely not her canon one.
>>538176550>>538176691The harem route, or just make it and endless rivalry in the end.>>538176859Kek sorry my bad, I meant a rivarly between mina and honey.
>"Sonic is the one who's come to save me?" the horror and irritation flare up all at once>Sonic caresses her face>Is he... checking if she's alright? No. Impossible. Sonic is a monster that only cares about having fun>"Let's get you out of here" he says>Sonic cuts the ropes>He doesn't restrain her>She could strangle him right now, isn't he worried?>Sonic lifts her up and carries her out of the dungeon
>>538176787Well, it's not on the wiki. Maybe if Bollers had Flynn's following, it would be, but until then, it's Lost Media.
>>538176354>picCute! Tails gets kissed from everyone!>>538176427Also cute
One way Dream is the worst vocal Sonic song
>>538177049See? Sonurge isn't a rape ship, you haters WISH it was because you secretly love rape.
>>538176859I think i rememebr a comic where tails clones himself into a genderbend version and then proceeds to fuck her.Dunno if it was mobius unleashed bullshit, but it took literally the "go fuck yourself thing".
>>538176806
I think in a sonic heroes 2 it would be better if both blaze and silver had separate teams, i say this not because of characterfaggotry but because their roles dont really make senseYou could say silver is flying and blaze is speed, but i really doubt they wouldnt give the speed type for one of the 3 main hedgehogs, then you could say silver is speed and blaze is power (like in sonic runners) but then you come to the realization that marine cannot fly at all
>>538175758I really like this episode, a good showing of Sonic's character
>>538167836Nice OP (thank you for fixing I was having a meltdown)Amy Rose
>>538177276drippy boy!
>>538177485>marine cannot fly at allSays who? Don't underestimate the captain
i don't understand how sonurge is considered a rape ship when the amount of art where amy rapes sonic OR tails outnumbers that of so many other "rape ships"
>>538176901Here we usually use the manga and official character profile for honey.She's a shy introverted girl while she's a civil but became a confident extrovert led girl the moment she uses her fashionista fighter persona.
I always thought marine as a power type
>>538177749She can switch between all three types whenever she pleases
>>538176809I really think the problem is focusing too much on high-concept crap like themes and lore in an attempt to surpass Mario or whatever instead of just letting these characters be grounded in their world. All this Silver bad future concept art shows what people actually want from Silver but Sonic Team can't help themselves from making shlock like Sage in Frontiers.
How’s everyone feeling about Tangle and Whisper getting into Crossworlds
Anti-cosmo.
Anon the fans are retarded you cant just go full on give then what they want because alot of times what they wants is garbage with hype moments and aura
>>538176506Is not a secret he wanted to pair amy with tails, because tails and amy had the same age at archie (thats it) while sonic and Sally were a thing. Obviously sega blocked the idea, by the single fact amy is sonic official love interest, so mina came into the picture, funny enough just because they wanted a quick pairing.
>>538177969mmmmmm more pussy
>>538177942>letting these characters be grounded in their worldLike the problem with the comics not simply letting the comic ocs accomplish anything on their own?
>>538178051Kek, great pic. I wish cosmo was still alive.
Marine is stronger than Blaze.
Okay seriously though I think what makes the most sense would be Blaze - Speed, Silver - Flight, Marine - Power.>but Silver is fast tooYes, and so is Tails, that's not a problem>>538177942>focusing too much on high-concept crap like themes and loreHow many times have they done that between 2008 to 2022? I don't think it's something that should be removed from the series, they just need to integrate it better. SA2 did it wellAlso we would have seen more from Silver if he got more content after the mid 2000s
>>538178064>you cant just go full on give then what they wantDid a AAA studio developer type this?
>>538177049>>538177461>Sonic lifts her up and carries her out of the....no>Heh, no that would be too easy, wouldn't it? You idiot....>The monster never came here to save you, only to savor you.>"Looks like you got tangled up, huh Kitty?" He smirks at you>"I-I'm not a cat! I-" You catch your breath as you feel his his hand lower over your body. He never takes his eyes off of yours. The window of the soul, yet all you can see is a reflection of yourself in those horrible eyes.>He continues to move downward, slowly tracing his fingers past your breasts, almost as if she's drawing a map.>You snarl at him but dare not to make a sound. Anything you try to say would be betrayed by your own body's feelings. >Your breath gets heavier, his hands move over your stomach. Towards your pants...>A part of you wants to scream. To shoot him with as much lightning as you can.>A part of you...wants him to continue.
>>538178284I don't remember if some AI fag genned it but it came out good.
>>538178418What the hell is this dialogue?
>>538178247It’s not that they’re not allowed to accomplish anything, it’s that they’re intentionally handicapped into being basic nobodies with no powers compared to sonic and his friends and that’s shit because the comicfags want to put them with the main cast and make them playable
>>538178064I actually want less hype moments and aura, actually. It's all toddlershit or high-concept crap like "cyberspace". When's the last time we got something grounded like Station Square or Club Rouge?
>>538178569Were the locations in Forces (besides Null Space) not "grounded"?
>>538178560Americans insist on portraying Sonic as cocky
>>538178406You can ask any of the A game developers and they will always say the same thing, gamers most of the times do not know what they actually want
>>538178709It's so weird, Sonic's not an asshole. If the world shook and Shadow wanted to know wtf was going on he'd tell him with no bullshit
>>538177702Honey needs to use more her alternate outfits
If the franchise was ran by sonic fans we would be on Sonic Adventure 8, with 45 playable characters, 300 hour campaign (half of it is cutscenes) and at the 30th big bad evil god that tricks eggman of the week
>>538173941not gonna lie thats fucking HOT as fuck
>hi honey, how was your day?>"ugh, I'm like so sick and tired of this restoration crap">Haha, they gave you some trouble huh?>"Always whining about some stupid shit, and don't get me started on that loser Silver. Whatever, pass me a beer babe. Let's get fucked up tonight~'
>>538178390>how many timesWell there's Whitespace for one.>SA2 did it wellExactly, the ARK and GUN feel fine.>>538178687Forces is just banal. "The City" like c'mon.
>>538179162what tubi show is this
>>538179131>and don't get me started on that loser Silver
>>538179873>I'm going to rape this sheep
>>538178247IDW is low-concept but it's all crying lesbian drama. Some of the locales are neat.
>>538177702To be fair, Honey the human might not be exactly the same.The fact that she's a cat tells me there are a few differences, anon.
>>538179131>>538179873Lanolin is the last character, that should say someone is a lover, while she's the urban dictionary definition of one.
We are probably gonna get Amigo some street fighter character for crossworlds
>>538180084>loverYou mean loser?
>>538176901>>538180043What would you use instead of the archie and fighting vipers persona then?Those are her main personalities.
Starring Lanolin as the Joker
>>538180119We're getting AiAi and a Virtua Fighter character most likely. Not Amigo or SF.
>Sonic X season 2 finale>If Sonic stays on earth too long, the clock will stop>It is implied it won't kill everyone or freeze anything but stop the progression of life. Nobody would age or grow up. >Everyone talks as if they'd still be able to live >Grandpa Chuck explains how it could be fun, but it wouldn't be right>It would also cause Sonic's planet and earth to fuse into one worldI'm sorry but is Sonic X attacking the games here?
>>538180154Yes, sorry for the typo.
>>538180327A sonic team employee (i dont remember his name tn) just retweed a old post of his to play samba de amigo and street fighter because of something that will happen down the line
I hate motherfuckers claiming that they folding bankBut steady talking shit in the holding tankFirst, you wanna step to me?Now your ass screaming for the deputyThey send you to Charlie-Baker-Denver rowNow they runnin' up in you slowYou're gone, used to be the Don Juan (Check that shit out!)Now your name is just TwanSwitchin', snappin', rollin' your eyes and neckYou better run a check
>>538179131I miss when we used to bully lanolin by how lame and stupid she became in the end.
>>538064942>>538170820>>538178335Ian, I...
>>538180716I still wish we had a manic and sonia redesign that doesn't look like total shit.Is almost impossible for those characters for some reason.
>>538180595Imagine the conjugal visits.
>>538180969Doesn't Ian hate her?
>>538179873>>538179131she should go all Mimic on SilverIs what ABT would want
>>538179873Forced apology by HR
>>538180474If you can't show what you're talking about, I'm going to assume it's made up.
>>538180981My only gripe is that they, like every hedgehog before Silver, are supposed to look like Sonic. But fans try and erase that.
>>538181128>go all Mimic on SilverWhat?
>>538180119capcom would be retarded to not put megaman on crossworldsmid case we get the cats from MH
>>538180645I would never bully my wife
>>538170820Why this pic is shitting on flynn regarding what is happening with amy when we already know a corp similar to sweetbabyinc is working with sega.This is even obvious in sonic x shadow generations. The same with rouge being censored in the actual games.
>>538181117
>>538181314>megamanAnon he was found dead in his apartment 9 years ago
>>538180595Our girl is so full of venom she bossed almost everyone in prison including scourge.
>>538181354You are correct but this one is Ian's fault. Not the loss of Sonamy. No, Sega has been downplaying SonAmy since 2013. It's Ian simultaneously going on Bumblekast and repeatedly explaining that he thinks Amy should move on while specifically being the guy who made Sally of all people wait decades for Sonic.This lead fans to believe he's a diehard Sonallyfag who will break characters in the name of his otp.I don't think Ian is that childish. I think he reached the conclusion that Sonic is a bad love interest (he is) and doesn't think anyone actually works in a pairing with him. Shippers aren't very rational when they're angry so he has since been branded Sonamy's greatest enemy.
>>538181369>Why is Whisper so confrontationalThat is something that’s been weird with her lately. She doesn’t act legitimately stealthy anymore or snipe from roof tops. It’s always the hammer with her now
>>538180981Someone posted an interesting idea before about manic being scourge in an alternate reality.I liked it, my two scent of canon is that they aren't brothers but orphans on the same house that were close friends or maybe just cousins.With Sonia I am lost, of the two underground brothers she the one with the worst design and color pallete.
>>538181083
>>538180969>She also may have mysterious water powers . . . ?
>>538181860>That is something that’s been weird with her lately.Again, it's Evan Stanley's fault for not knowing how to write a competent villain without dumbing down the other characters. Similar happened with Clutch.
>>538181874Sonia's horrible rich bitch personality is great and I'm tired of fanfics replacing it with generic girlboss.I think her colors are fine. At least the ones on her body. It's the rest that are dog shit.
>>538170820the biggest thing from Ian is that he is adamant on how he sees the characters is the only characterization that exist , japan be dammed. Dude is fucking pathetic and even when people give them examples he refuses becuse it goes against what he think of the character.Behavior like these are pathetic , specially that complex of grandeur. This faggots NEEDS to be blacklisted sooner than later.
>>538182197The problem with her, is how her clothes colors horribly contrast with her actual fur color.
>>538182394I think since she's technically a classic style design you could just replace her clothes entirely and it'd be on-brand for Sonic Team
>>538181771I wouldn't take sonic fans opinions on any place when 90% of fans are actual crazy psycho deviants.
>>538171396how the FUCK she got shoerned into the plot of 06 lmaoWere the sol emeralds doing a little of trolling , giving her a bf lmao There is no exaplanation and its better to focus on blaze for rush only
>>538182067Play Rush Adventure
Today’s Kung Fun flick, Drunken Master
>>538182559Doesn't help a lot of people are crazy shipfags too, with biased plans. Funny how they always blame someone being biased while they do the same.
>>538167508There are many ways to address your insomnia fren, that can be done naturally or with drugs.1. Watching lengthy jewtube vids while in bed.2. Turn off ALL electronics when in bed.3. The white noise and the wind of a fan.4. Drugs like melatonin and Benadryl.
>>538182559Ok but imagine running a podcast where you are subjected to Sonic fans opinions for an hour
>>538179185Fair
>>538182170I think Evan forgot Clutch was the main plot and not the subplot
I think it's safe to say Sonamyfags are no better than Sonallyfags when it comes to shattering Sonic's character so that he can be a boyfriend.At least with Sonallyfags they're basing it off material where he never acted like the games.
>>538183171Amy turned adventurepilled thanks to Sonic
>>538182981That's a lose-lose opinion regarding on which side are you.
>>538183289I'm talking about the fan content, not the characters
who is the best racist in crossworlds so far?
>>538182767Okay but why is it in the form of such a gay question?
>>538183458blaze
>>538182818Never mind. I get filtered by this one every time I try to put it on.
Hey, good night.
>>538183171If you're are a radical shippingfag, you are a loser by default, there's a reason everyone hated the shipping wars of the 2000's. We had actual loons at those times, on both sides.
Sonia x Surge lesbians
>>538183458Kek, Eggman, she knows how to hate and exterminate sonic animal characters.
>>538183458unironically Jet
>>538181369>why doesn't Lanolin at least listen to what Whisper says about Mimic having tells that expose his disguise>Lanolin asks for proof????????? what contradiction is this
>>538183586Buenas noches, zorra roja.
>>538183586Good night Fionaposter.Glad to have you back on board.
>>538183586Night foxy
Ian is hated for spreading misinformation on the characters through his podcast and making huge changes to Sonic's personality.Even us hated for ... What?
>>5381841166 years and going of idw slop
>>538181117>>538181369Lanolin defenders? In this time and economy?
>>538183909>>538184051>>538184112luv ya <3
Ian and Evan are retards. Stop trying to hold the characters accountable for shit that only happened due to bottom of the barrel idiot plot writing.
>>538184203If you read the images you would see that they're pointing out how bad the entire thing is and no one walked away looking good especially the writer
>>538183896What contradiction? It’s pretty obvious what’s being said. >Lanolin asks for proof>Whisper says how to prove it>Ignored because plot demands it
>>538184116I always wonder if posters here know this fandom exist outside of this site with a totally different opinion regarding flynn, is even funnier in this place, by the fact flynn is not writing the comics anymore, but the still blame it for it.No one ever understands sega, sonic team, and the corporation similar to sweetbaby inc is are factors too, while ironically the games are actually selling and even became popular with actual normal people.Heck crossworlds is the greatest example nowadays, even non sonic fans are enjoying it.But people here loose their minds with a podcast a dude does out of his own ime, that even sega said he needed to stop at some point.
>Day 3458 of /sthg/ complaining about Ian and Evan and going "I'm telling you, the comic is going to be cancelled ANY day now"
>>538171396it's a dimps game, they fucking hate dimpssame reason why (g)emerl will never come back, why there will never be another sonic fighting game, and why amy's return to 2d gameplay didn't come with advances' high skill hammering action and was instead a tacked on easy mode
>>538185113I don't want it to get cancelled, I just want different writers
>>538185113>Writers suck>People want them goneYes, anon. I don't know what you expected.
>>538185113>cancelled anyday nowThis is the funniest copeBeen going for 6 years but niggas here swear its gonna end anyway now
>>538185113I just want Ian and Evan to take accountability and learn
>>538185113do we even have the sales numbers?i think after 79 sales should be on the shitter
>>538185403Take accountability? Did ian kill someone and im not aware?
Sonic characters for this feel?https://youtu.be/gLVU2jHUBeI
>>538184931she listened, but firstly, they should have told lanolin about the hunt beforeand secondly, they blew it, mimic knows, i believe he wouldn't have slipped under any circumstances
>>538184995there's some cruel irony in making this to show sega what fans want when doing so means sega can't do that idea
>>538185247>I don't want it to get cancelled, I just want different writersSame. It shouldn't be hard to manage a simple action-adventure comic, but they're managing to screw it up anyway.
>>538185657they can go to the guys who did it and buy the ideaor hire those men
Any good Sonic games you guys can recommend?
>>Hey look man, can i make him pull out a sword now? You know, he's a cool character that uses weapons and->No.>>B-BUT YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME GOOD GUIDELINES! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO WRI->Shut up and pay my licence.
>its gonna end ANYDAY NOW GUYS!!!! ........ anyday.....>almost 10 years still on going >>538185657Theres plenty of ways of tackling a silver future, this is just one of themSage is most probably inspired by the eggette meme, sonic team took inspiration from the fans and did their own thing
>>538185657lol at fans blowing their loads early
>>538185869this is good tho fuck shitdow
>>538185113Man, does it surprise you? it happened with pontac and graff, is happening with flynn and will happen with whoever becomes the future writer. Nothing ever changed in this fandom since the 2000's specially talking about this place.This fandom and specially this place is full of whining people, I cant even tell a time this fandom was fine with the franchise, even the adventure era had people bitching about sonic new design while complaining about the story tone of the adventure games.But I seriously doubt this place posters were even born in that time to even remember it.
>>538185869>Still blaming mandatesIt's really not that hard.
>>538185649>i believe he wouldn't have slipped under any circumstancesLiterally just yank off his gloves, and that's it. Evan herself stated this. He nearly blew his cover right after his intro issue, and it's everyone else's lack of basic communication that saved him.
In a way its surprising nintendo didnt take inspirations from bowsette to do their own female bowser considering how big that whole thing was
>>5381858542d? genesis trilogy and knuckles , the advance games on gba and sonic mania3d? adventure 1 and 2 , heroes , unleashed on pcyou want more? P06 , Shadow Generations ad FrontiersEven more? Lost worl , Colors and Forces
>>538186162>Literally just yank off his gloves, and that's it. Evan herself stated thiswhatnoian stated otherwise
>>538185960Tale as old as time.
>>538185896>Theres plenty of ways of tackling a silver future, this is just one of themAnd now that one is off the table
Mania was the only time the fanbase was united in agreeing "oh hey this is pretty good!" Yes contrarians try to pretend like they've always hated mania nowadays but you can't fool the people who were there. Back in 2016/2017, everyone was happy with the state of Mania
>>538186206I got Frontiers in my backlog and I grew bored of 2D Sonic
>>538141495>Even his Sonic channel story with Sonic confirms he's not as fast as himNot being as fast as Sonic =/= being slow as shit.
>>538185869>WHY WON'T YOU GIVE ME GUIDELINES OR STORY IDEAS YOU WANT?>That's literally your job.
>>538186179...they already have jr are you stupid
>>538186249>ian stated otherwiseAnd Evan contradicted him later on when she became head writer. Pay attention.
>>538186179She would do way worse things to Peach than simply kidnapping her.
>>538184991>this fandom exist outside of this site with a totally different opinion regarding flynnthey don't see the discrepancies that people on an underwater basket-weaving forum do
>>538186382Bowsette was female bowser not daughter bowser
I don't really follow the comic industry, but don't they have "runs" by different authors? How often does a new run happen?I feel like the real problem with the Sonic comics is that we've basically been stuck with Ian for literal decades at this point and the dude is clearly done. He got swapped with Evan for a little while, and she blew it, so now it's time to swap to someone else for a chance instead of just going straight back to Ian.
even the better part of the idw staff doesn't want to cover silver's future, so any hope for silver comic, game or whatever is gone, for me at least, you can believe in whatever you want
>>538186397>Evan contradicted him latersource
>>538186295Yo just gotta be creative >>538186463Marvel and DC have different runs because they are ultra popular centenary comic runs, others like IMAGE and IDW are generally run by the creator
Like i said months ago, it's not going to get cancelled but still the quality will keep dropping until something happens.The comic industry is such a small shit where only marvel and DC makes real money, IDW besides being one of the biggest is nothing but a fart, you can look at the quality of their rendering and the salaries to see they push the production costs to the bottom just to have some profit from basement dwellers with gender dysphoria.
>>538186682>sourceGo on her Tumbler and check it yourself. Hell, even the comic itselfstrongly implies this at the end of #62 when "Duo" takes off his mittens in private before he calls Clutch.
>>538186373as someone who let frontiers rot in his backlog for like years try it its unironically fun specially the open zones
>>538186463Yeah swap to me.
>>538186782>others like IMAGE and IDW are generally run by the creatorSo being stuck with Ian writing Sonic comics until the heat death of the universe is just inevitable?
>>538186463People think changing authors is the normalcy when when have a lot of comics outside capes, thay have one and only author like manga.Marvel and dc only rotted the general mindset of the industry.Heck Robert Kirkman and Neil gaiman are the man example I can think of as examples, Alan Moore too.
>>538186463Nobody else but Sonic fans would want to work for this comic. Even if the job was offered to someone and they weren't a Sonic fan, imagine reading through this comic to see what you can do with it and realizing you'll have to spend like 10+ issues just unfucking everything in it or have to consider a full in-universe reboot.
>>538186512What? You think the off-hand opinion of one writer that isn't even part of ST is going to keep them from using his future ever? We just got art of his future.
>>538186295This whole Silver's Future bit reminds me of how Gamefreak scrapped a Flying Evee evolution because they couldn't think of an original design that wasn't already done by the fans.
>>538186463That's why comics suck to manga Look at Spider-Man. A million different "runs" the past 15 years and majority of them suck dickJust get one writer one artist and make a monthly manga>But t-t-thats too much work~If Japan can do weekly shit like that so can we
>>538186463no one want to work on sonic the hedgehog thats the reality we just keep switching between ian and evanYour best hope is Barnes i think?
>>538186935>So being stuck with Ian writing Sonic comics until the heat death of the universe is just inevitable?He's not writing the fucking comics.
>>538186971>you'll have to spend like 10+ issues just unfucking everything in it or have to consider a full in-universe reboot.Or simply do what Sonic Team does:ignore everything that came before, pick and choose which characters and settings you want to use, and write a completely new story with some minor references at most
>>538186512This is Barnes basically saying "SEGA would fuck up the concept and not give you what you want" by the way. Its a legit valid complain.
>>538187134>If Japan can do weekly shit like that so can weJapanese mangakas literally work themselves to death. No western artist is going to put themselves through that.
>>538186512Barnes has alot of bad takes on his twitter and this is one of them, speaking as a silver fan, certain aspects of sonic lore should be ambiguous but silver is not one of them, it was never meant by sonic team that his future is not explored, they just have been blueballing us since the failure of 2006.Its like if you said that they shouldnt have made rush/rush adventure since that ruins the mystique and fan ideas of Blaze dimension>>538186935Until he retires or stops writing for IDW (more likely)>>538187067I dont know how to write but i would personally love to so art for IDW
>>538174474>>538173941>>538179114Shit taste
>>538187056That's Sonic's world tho not Silver's future >>538187152He literally just wrote last month's issue like cmon bro
>>538186847>Go on her Tumbler and check it yourself.nta but where? Her Tumblr has thousands of posts, give a specific source.
>>538187067That's what I'm trying to get at. Most companies are not DBZ out of ideas searching DeviantArt for new ones. They ACTIVELY avoid that and by making more Silver stuff you take away anything Sega would want to do without spinning it to be coincidental like some believe Eggette and Sage are
>>538187134Ultimate Spiderman by Hikmann is a fantastic run so far by the way
>>538187134Doesnt read comics award
>>538185649The whole thing the images are talking about is how the writer (Evan) purposely made the characters stupider, ooc and not communicate with each other to make this work and there was no payoff to this retarded choice because the characters didn’t even learn or recognize the problem by the end.>>538186682It’s literally in the fucking comic dimwit, that’s the whole reason he wears the damn gloves and takes them off when he’s alone
>>538187309>>538187489>The cope is always that "AIIIEEE JAPS WORK THEMSELVES TO DEATH DUDE! IT'S TOTAL HORROR AND TORTURE!">Never see any examples of this or actual evidence. Just a Boogeyman westercomic fags use to cope with the fact that they wait a month to get 20 pages of dogshit
>>538185657>>538186512His future is multiple choice.
>>538187347Evan has been writing for the past 6 years. Ian drops one or 2 issues sometimes. but this book has been mostly Evan's now. Ian himself said so
>>538187313Meant for>>538186971>>538187139
>>538187347>That's Sonic's world tho not Silver's futureLook at the flying cars and everything else in the background, it's the future.
>>538171035... just like Ian, who learned it from his former hero, Ken Penders.
>>538187158this is exactly how they built a fandom so fucking angry and toxic to the bone.People around here are so afraid of everything that spergouts happen on a daily basis, too much sensibility cuts any form of creativity because who the fuck wants to trigger the autismos?
>>538187672I agree it's the future but Sonic Heroes and Sonic Colors have flying cars
>westernfags be like "a-a-at least they're not working themselves to death like I heard that um...that one guy did....um...what was his name? T-THAT DOESN'T MATTER!'
>>538187545>Never see any examples of this or actual evidenceYou mean like the literal suicide forest they have?By the way Iizuka nearly died making Heroes
>>538187545>>Never see any examples of this or actual evidenceSo you know nothing about the culture you champion?
>>538187134>Just get one writer one artist and make a monthly mangaMost mangakas write AND draw it themselves. It seems rare to have a duo, which is why so many are stressed the fuck out.My GOAT Kazuki Takahashi was literally making the final arc of YuGiOh in a hospital bed.
>>538187545>>538187763Doesnt read comics but want to talk about them anyway awardGo read absolute batman and ultimate spiderman 2024
>>538169652How were people allowed to bully the royalty of their dimension?
how that worked for Berserk? amazing ending isn't it?Tokyo Ghoul writer got so sick of it that he sabotaged his own manga in the end
>>538187672>Look at the flying cars and everything else in the background, it's the future.Sonic's world also has flying cars broGrand Metropolis and Speed Highway say hello
>>538187672Ehhhh they look more like clouds
>>538186512SEGA is going to do it themselves eventually.
>>538185721This fandom headcanon is starting to grow an me, metal and sage being eggman future legacy makes a lot of sense, is cool too.
>>538187910just because you are a royalty doesn't mean you are the royalty
>>538187746Who cares what these autists think? They are not the target audience for Sonic.
>>538187845They have those DC pocket on stores for pretty cheap now go pick one of those before believing everything your cultural war youtuber says to you
>>538187767>>538187778>>538187845OH NONONONO, WE HAVE A HIGHER SHICIDE RATE THAN JAPAN, WE BETTER SWITCH THE COMICS TO BI-MONTHLY TO STOP WORKING OURSELVES TO DEATHpffffttttttttComic fags crack me up. You tell them the truth and they lose their shit and try to cope Like >>538187938 for example
>>538187994>Evan writing a "Silver's future" story
>>538187994No they aren't.
>>538187508>It’s literally in the fucking comic dimwit,it's for the audience moron>>538186847but he doesnt wear any when he was impersonating tangle
>all of this because of one line of dialogue i love how creative this fanbase is
>>538187945>>538187964Silver isn't going to have a high tech apartment in Sonic's time. Half the stuff in the background is a reference to this pic in his bad future.
>>538188049Is blue sage and red sage like good and bad cop? Or is she just schizophrenic>>538188189Mental illness
You can tell who's a cape shit fan and who isn't by who's offended over the premise of a Sonic manga doing a better job than a Sonic comic
>>538186092I liked the Adventure era and ignored all the bitching.
REDEEM SILVERIS ON THE HORIZON
>>538188347That can't be his future,Iblis was erased from all timelines
Speaking of, what day is the new Blade of Courage chapter coming out?
>>538188347Yeah, the big magazine in both pics make me believe it's the future now
>>538186971>imagine reading through this comic to see what you can do with it and realizing you'll have to spend like 10+ issues just unfucking everything in it I'd do it if they hired me.
>>538188375A Sonic manga wouldn't do better because no one in Japan cares about Sonic
>>538188102I would care if it means my product is capped from growing further, new audience getting attached to their own media either leaves out of exaustion or they become another subgroup of spergs when their adaptation ends.Unless you're an everuthingfag or an adaptable person you're not sticking around too long when what you like dies.
>>538188049Silver war against sage and metal sonic sounds like a extremely cool, dystopian future idea for a story.
The cheese of truth!ComicfagsAre Secondaries
>>538188427That's set when he was still fighting Iblis.
Reminder.Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 were built specifically for the Sega Dreamcast's SH4 CPU.Dreamcast goes all out on transparency and lighting, supports 8-bit destination alpha blending with 24-bit sourcing 32-bit z-buffer, Saturn and Dreamcast diffuse+specular lightning based on palette indices, Dreamcast used tile layered deferred rendering which supported order independent transparency. the Egg Carrier in Sky Chase appears to be rendered using the functions that ignore palette lighting, and thus it is using Ninja Lights set up in the SL file.Technically SA1 does have dynamic lighting effects, but you can't see them because they almost always get overridden with palette lighting. They were certainly meant to be in the game at some earlier point, though.Sonic Adventure 1 was highly downgraded in terms of lighting on on the GC. SA2 lacked a bunch of shadowing effects which used the DC's modifier volumes. SA2 DC abused the Dreamcast's volumetric fog features for some interesting effects, like security alarms (Iron Gate, Flying Dog, Egg Quarters) and approximated "rain waves" (White Jungle). These effects are gone in SA2B, replaced with full-screen overlays (Flying Dog, Egg Quarters) or with a rotating vertex light (Iron Gate)Sega changed SA1's palette based lighting to specular lighting in DX GC port and they barely even used it. SA2 CnkMultiDraw does support Vertex color + Lighting though used in EventsThe porting team likely ran into problems implementing palette lighting, so they figured it would be easier to just update everything that didn't work immediately after they were brought over to SADX. Even SA2B doesn't use specular in the same way the DC version uses it.That's what happens when the Dreamcast is the only system with hardware support for OIT lol
silver beyondimagine the potential
Is it me of does this comic really like to do the whole "party/social gathering with people in masks" thing?I feel like they've done this a lot
>>538188552That, and there's no way a Sonic manga would be able to compete with any current serialized manga, whether it be art or story. Sonic is a brand focused on elementary schoolers.
>>538188189>more people means more suicidesno fucking way LMAOOOOOOOOOThats a nice graphic you got there Ken sama
>06>Colors DS>TSR>Otherworldy Comedy>IDWYou're going to get tanabataslop just like every other time Silver has gotten his own arc.
>>538187964Anon, you can see the actual clouds on there. Are you retarded?
>>538186971You know it really does say something about the competence of both Evan and Ian when the current state of the comic is just objectively worse than it was in Archie at this point.The only thing IDW has over Archie is the art and Archie had to work with artists who didn't grow up and train on how to draw Sonic characters which is a huge handicap for IDW since they have a near endless supply of artists who can draw Sonic characters now.
>>538188725bro how the fuck is batman going to fight a moon just call in superman bro go home
>>538188686Man I'm really impressed by how technologically advanced the Dreamcast was back then.
>>538188584If Metal and Sage become the main problem in his future then he'd have to kill them in Sonic's time.
>>538188602There is no "still fighting Iblis" he was erased from time.
>>538188739Excuse to draw sonic characters in fancy dressing
>>538188797what about rivals
Stop acting like fans are just irrational. Ian and Evan write Sonic ooc. There are other IDW writers without this issue.
All other fandoms have given up on IDW but Sonic fans will fight for IDW's honor to their dying breath it looks like.
So has anything good happened to Belle in the comics?
>>538188290>it's for the audienceIt's not for the audience if it's acknowledged in universe double moron>he doesnt wear any when he was impersonating tangleNTA but Tangle doesn't wear gloves, that would give him away immediately, also notice how he mainly keeps his fingers turned away or closed?
>>538188949What ABOUT Rivals? You didn't play it.No one did.
>>538188908And no one bought it anyway. It's about the games it seems, no the console itself
>>538189028she is going to meet sage and thats it
>>538188786the entire modern world is built on exploitationAsians are buck-broken
>>538187672>Look at the flying cars and everything else in the background, it's the futureIt definitely is the future, but SA1, Heroes, Riders, Shooting Star Story, and Colors all have flying cars.
>>538188949I forgot about rivals actually.>>538189081I did. It was shovelware.
>>538188917Silver fought Iblis for his entire life before 06. That pic is set before 06.
We were talking about comics why the hell is this guy blabbling about suicide rates
>>538188992People will joke about "just let me write it" but man at this point why the fuck not. Just get some randoms to write a one shot and see what happens.
>>53818834732+ times he's killed Iblis.
>>538189221Iizuka almost died when making Frontiers all by himself
>>538189205What part of he was erased from TIME ITSELF do you not understand
>>538189192It has cool costumes tho
>>538188347i loved IWBTG back in the day Silver , i know that feeling.
I'm going to go back to gooning.
>>538189068it wasn't acknowledged and then it wasstop splitting hairs
>>538189221Comicfags brought it up as a cope for why "We can't make a Sonic manga"
>>538188725 BatBey is everything Silver should have been out of the gate. That's what people who enjoy Sonic the Hedgehog would want a future character to be. Now it's obvious that they didn't want to do something like that at all and I only have myself to blame for creating an image of what Silver should be rather than facing what he is
>>538185649>i believe he wouldn't have slipped under any circumstancesMaybe that would've been better. A big problem with both Ian and Evan is how afraid of powerscaling they are, but I think a little bit is necessary. They keep running into the wall of "the main characters are better than that" so they think they have to dumb them down to suit their even dumber villains instead of making the villains get more competent
>JUST LET THE FANS WRITE IT!!!sure
>>538189283That was Heroes
>>538188365>is blue sage and red sage like good and bad cop? Or is she just schizophrenicMaybe she became like that in the bad future.>>538185721>>538188049>>538188584Fuck yeah! I would read that shit, sounds incredible. I wish it had more art.>>538188913Maybe it happened some kind of butterfly effect. Sage and metal being current enemies of silver, doesn't mean they are the main villains too, Just recurrent.
What if Future Sonic is Silver's villain?
>>538189452This does NOT count
>>538189324I understand that Iblis was erased but Silver's history from 06 wasn't. It's complicated.
>>538189428What do you mean we cant have a sonic manga? We already have one, we were talking about comic books and why they take longer to make
>>538189452They let the fans make Mania, why not a comic?
hedgehog the hedgehog
>>538189596No it's not complicated, It's very simple. Sonic Team are fucking awful at writing.
>>538189553dont you dare invite soneggfag to this threadwe dont need more shit here
>>538189640>What do you mean we cant have a sonic manga? We already have oneAnd NO ONE cares about it. The case is settled gentleman.
>>538188725yeah imagine ..haha.....sometimes SEGA is like WB
>>538189452I saw nothing wrong with the writing and people just hate this game because they asked for money and that thing with Maria, not from the actual quality.
What i dont understand is if all you guys wanted is a sonic manga then why are you still complaining after getting one>>538189690The sonic mania team are professionals with years of experience and not just random timmy that thinks he could do a better job
IDWfags literally get mad at people who like the characterizations from the games and you expect me to believe it just comes down to "those darn Sonic fans always hate the writers"?
>>538189442>instead of making the villains get more competentFucking this. Im fucking tired of all the insane copes that they CANT have the characters do things because that would be too easy. There's not a single creative bone in their bodies. If it's too easy for the cast, why not make the villain stronger or better? Make them learn and adapt to the cast instead of the other way around.
>>538189428>We can't make a Sonic mangaschizoid there is one right now and its SHIT mid
>>538189943I'm not complaining idk what that conversation even is I'm excited for the next chapter to come out soon
>>538189943>What i dont understand is if all you guys wanted is a sonic manga then why are you still complaining after getting oneBecause the manga is fucking boring and not at all how they imagined it to be in their heads, that's why.
>>538189440Sonic fans need a fucking reality check.
>>538189886People were clowning very heavily on the writing too"Consider this your bad omen" was a big meme for like 3 weeks
>>538189594>>538189690Fans didn't even write Omens. Only one guy on the project was a fan. The devs were said to be developing the game out of spite and the main guy who wrote it said everything after Sonic Adventure was trash. So Omens is not a valid candidate.
>>538189892That’s my boy
>fangames popping up>animations popping up>countless fanarts popping up>all because of Silver's POTENTIALBut....when will SEGA Of JAPAN realize that potential?
>next Nintendo Direct is rumored to have 3 games with 7 in the titleSonic Adventure 7 bros
>>538190137That line sounds cool and 2000sish
>>538190105I think people believed it would be something like the dragon ball manga without realizing literally no artist is ever going to make something like that for a franchise he doesnt own
>>538190252The 2000s were cringe anon.
>>538190206>silver trying not to be a shadow knock-off
>>538190137And if Ian wrote that those same people would clap. Ian basically does that kind of shit already and they all clap.
All this, and still no Silver x Sage porn?
>06 bombs>Silver: IT AIN'T OVER YET!!!!
>>538179391kill yourself sexiststop replacing male characters
>>538188908Sonic Adventure was supposed to have even better lighting, but it only ran at 15fps>Sonic Adventure 60fpshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh5hhrq5oIo>Windy Valley Autodemo (Dreamcast hardware)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnah9fJsFMc>Sonic Adventure 2 Prototype Lightinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cem2rGiXG6M
>>538189693Silver's time travel doesn't work like you might think it would. Sonic and Elise blow Solaris and it just makes him forget everything since meeting Blaze(who wasn't from the future) but didn't erase or rewrite him because the apocalyptic backstory informs his character.
>>538190173>you have to love every single game or you aren't a *real* fando you hear yourself bro
>>538190416He's right, Randomfox is the only real Sonic fan.
>>538190402This is cute tho
>>538190402what the FUCK are you babbling about Whispertrannycel Hornet is a girl
>>538190350Kinda stupid when Shadow is an actual sonic knock off in tearms of creation
>>538190403>>Windy Valley Autodemo (Dreamcast hardware)Windy Valley is not running with Ninja Lights there; that's palette lighting injected from the final. The AutoDemo runs on palette lighting.
>>538190416The guy who wrote it wasn't even a fan. That was just his statement on what he thought of the series. He watched Sonic X in order to get a story for the fangame because he thought the games didn't really have one.
>>538190407>Silver's time travel doesn't work like you might think it would.It doesn't work at all. Stop being so gracious for people who don't even know how the moon works, much less time travel.
>>538190598a girl replacing a male character from the first game
>>538190357Be the change you want to see
>>538188686>>538188908>>538189117>And no one bought it anyway. It's about the games it seems, no the console itselfFun fact, sonic heroes started on dreamcast and it ran fine. Ironically even in the early stages it ran at 60hz, unlike the shitty ps2 port. According to legend, Sonic Heroes was originally going to be on Gamecube and XBox only. However, Sony told SEGA the same thing they had told Capcom numerous times: “Release this on Playstation 2 or you'll never be allowed to release games on a Sony brand console ever again”. The PS2 was the dominant console that generation and being prevented from releasing titles on it could doom a company. However, SEGA was terrible at programming for the PS2. They had even produced a number of Dreamcast titles in the past that flat-out could not be done on PS2. But now, SEGA had to take a title they had already partially finished and move it from it's own proprietary engine to something that could easily be ported to all three consoles: Renderware. This sudden engine shift probably put them far behind schedule and messed up any chance to really polish the game as much as it needed to be. This caused SEGA to produce yet another sub-Adventure title.
>>538189283He actually died but was substituted by a clone
>>538190623shit that was defecated once tastes better than shit that was eaten and defecated again
>>538190204>The potential to restore Silver's character by envisioning his struggles in a post-apocalyptic future and how he fights back against it>The humbe character assassins Evan and SnapCube:
>>538190725Im going to replace you whisperfag
>>538190718I just explained how the 06 ending affected him.
>>538190725pretty sure the hollow knight was an empty vessel therefore genderless
>>538190643>Windy Valley is not running with Ninja Lights there; that's palette lighting injected from the final. The AutoDemo runs on palette lighting.QRD on the Sonic Adventure engine from Sonic Jam to SA2?
>>538190204>Silver's Sonic 06 story... but with Sage instead of Iblis.Yawn.
>>538190748Waw, just like his hero Shadow!>>538190743>The Chadcast is stronger than the Wimpstation
>>538190725>replacingI would squash you like the bugs in both those games
>>538190743>Fun fact, sonic heroes started on dreamcast and it ran fine. ? But by the time SA2 came out they already knew the Dreamcast was shutting downUnless it was just an early prototype before they moved to other hardware?
>>538190936Shut up.
>>538190725Silksong is an entire separate thing and Hornet was always promised to be a playable character Kill yourself you fucking secondary Whispercel you legit need to kill yourself for that one.
>>538167836watch the flood of miku hatsune and spongebob porn
>>538191184I hope Sage becomes more snarky and sarcastic
>>538190350>tryingJust being a super hedgehog is the only thing that makes him look like Shadow and that shit makes him more like Sonic, if you want a shadow knockoff look at Blaze and Infinite
>>538190743>Sony told SEGA the same thing they had told Capcom numerous times: “Release this on Playstation 2 or you'll never be allowed to release games on a Sony brand console ever again”. The PS2 was the dominant console that generation and being prevented from releasing titles on it could doom a companyPS2 couldn't handle RE4 without severe downgrades lolAccording to Capcom, the character Leon was modeled with 10.000 polygons on the Gamecube, and on the PS2 the polygon count will be almost half of that number. By comparison, the Snake on Metal Gear Solid 3 has 4.000 polygons, 1.000 less than the PS2 RE4 Leon.The textures, that on the Gamecube were on the 24bits color standard, will be lowered to 4 or 8 bits. On the other hand, the wider and superior memory bandwidth on the Playstation 2 will allow the use of more varied textures than that used on the Cube.
>>538191184I can't wait for the next game to bomb so we never see her again.
>>538190204There really isn't a lot of potential in this. What is he supposed to do, just fight Sage in the ruined future as a status quo?
>>538191027No time fuckeries, just good polished new gameplay in one future while introducing what happened in the past slowly is yawn inducing?
>>538191379Silverfags just want him to be relevant soooo bad. Ignore their drivel.
>>538191027>>538191379They don't want to listen, man. The tanabata blackpill is too bitter for them to swallow.
>>538190743>Fun fact, sonic heroes started on dreamcast and it ran fine. Ironically even in the early stages it ran at 60hz, unlike the shitty ps2 port. But that's false. Sonic Heroes was explicitly a result of Sega going third party. Sonic Team was preparing to make the original Sonic Adventure 3 instead if Dreamcast wasn't discontinued.Unless you mean early production used Dreamcast dev kits as an unserious test? But it's believed that the lead platform was GameCube, which had the Adventure ports.
>>538191379its literally a bad end future so yes go wild with it
>>538191379>What is he supposed to doFight Sage, upgraded badniks, upgraded Metal Sonic, the surviving zeti, partner with a renegade Shadow and Omega, etc...
Silver the Hedgehog will reset the timeline
we wouldnt have this converstation if paramount hadn't changed ugly sonicwe would play sonic 3 and knuckles endlessly
>>538191681That sounds boring.
>>538191351I cant wait for when you die of lung failure
>>538191379>lot of potential for a gameThere's no potential for any Sonic game as of late, even frontiers falls short for explaining the chaos emeralds.
>>538169169>her trauma of being bullied when she was a child for her ability to manipulate flamesYeah, I hate being bullied for being powerful. It sucks. I need sympathy.But imagine being a loser bullied for sucking, you'd be way past uncool.
>>538191142I don't care about your excusesstop replacing male characters
>>538191681Do you believe we're gonna get that? Do you believe they'll put those kinds of resources on a fucking SILVER game instead of Sonic or Shadow?
>Sonic 1 movie never gets the redesign >Frontiers flops >Sonic fucking DIES
>>538191816What's not boring to you? mobile slop?
>>538191895Im going to genetically replace you whisperfag
>>538191816Thank God you're not a game developer.>>538191909>Do you believe we're gonna get that?If they're insistent on keeping Silver relevant, yes.
Sagw is a bad matchup for Silver because she can upload your fucking brain to the starfall island afterlife server even if you're miles away from it.
>>538191895>crying about a subject for no reason + being a secondary YUP whispercel? more like TRANNYcel. You really fit the mold
Sonic rolls.I rock.
>>538192045>Thank God you're not a game developer.Oh yeah because the games are so creative lately right?
So why aren't SADX, SA2B and HEROES on Switch 2 BC?
>>538192050Shes a good matchup for silver because shes a hologram and cant grab that with his powers
>>538192128Together they are
>Paramount said they have big plans for SilverTrust the process, Silverfags never gave up and they will never will!
Don't tell me Silverfags actually think their fanfic is gonna happen.
>>538192157Sonic Team doesn't like doing the easy way to make money. They've explicitly stated that's why they don't want to make a Sonic Adventure 3.
capefaggotery, i know, but what if sonic held a similar tournament
>>538192157They're probably planning a compilation after the Adventure remakes fell apart.
>>538191842take your meds
Tranny modders datamined ONT files. There's 35 DLC characters, possibly 37 thanks to two with an unknown flag. There are two batches of free dlc that come with 2 characters in one update. Who will they be /sthg/?
>>538190206SoA PLEASE
>>538192117I don't care.lore reasons for replacing a male character is just an elaborate excuse for misandry.
>>538192050Anon...what does Silver use most when fighting?
>>538191681>Nothing but older versions of existing charactersThe popular things fans want to do with his future are so uncreative. You've defeated the purpose of him having his own setting if you don't want anything original from it.
>>538192241>Paramount said they have big plans for SilverSource?
>>538192343This seems very easy to do, just do a poll and post here
Would Belle still exist in Silver's future? Would she join Sage?
>>538191379>What is an else worldYou just lack imagination.
>>538192128Amy takes me my cock.
>>538189440>silvazetard realized all this shit only now
>>538192329Because they simply can't, not because they wouldn't want to. If they didn't like easy money, why was the last game a DLC attached to a half assed remaster dumbass?
>>538192318Not really? but the PR push is significant.
>>538192405>him having his own settingIt's literally the same setting, just in the future. Why shouldn't at least half his cast be familiar faces, but older?
>>538192405Its hard to talk about characters that dont exist yet genius
Could Heroes run on Dreamcast?
>>538192375IDWfags will delude themselves into thinking their shitty comic OCs will be one of the DLCs and not another crossover slop character.
>>538192513NOT SO FAST!
>>538192515You just want Silver wank. No one gives a fuck about Silver. Move on from him already, his time came and went.
>>538192215-The most boring ass duo.
>>538192556PR push for what? His own game? Nakamura already does that routinely and he's always shot down.
>>538192329>>538192536Did Sega lose the SA1/SA2 source code?
>>538174629Hey, aren't you...?
>>538192405No one said there won't be anything original, just serving more fans in the process, didn't you fags called them out on why they deserve original material or someshit?
>>538192772Based
Shadow exists for sex.
>>538192695The first duo is the only one of the free dlc to not come with a vehicle. I wonder why
>>538192853Most likely, destroying source code was a standard industry practice for Japan until recently.
The coolest Silver fanart I saw was Station Square with Death Egg crashed into it. You could follow-up Sonic 4 with the Death Egg around Little Planet plot and have the game about continuously trying to and failing to prevent different bad futures every time you get a timestone.
>>538192715Strange how they're a lot of content about him ain't it you jealous tard?
>>538193063It's just Silverschizo whining again. Just ignore them.
Shadria is cute and canon! All hail Maekawa!
>>538187134>we shouldn't have a million spider-men comics where only one is good>we should have a million comics where only one is good
>>538193063Who would be jealous of Silver? People are just saying don't get your hopes up that.
>>538192157Bad relationships between Sonic Team and Nintendo
>>538192853The only game they had to remake in 2012 was nights so most likely no
>>538193063>Strange how they're a lot of content about him ain't it you jealous tard?None of it is official so lol
>>538192853>>538192157weren't there attempts to port SA to iOS but got abandoned by the dawn of the meta era?>>538193000source?
>>538192853Why do you think they keep releasing the same ports of ports of ports of ports that get poopier every port?
>>538192832For more focus, we're seeing him being pushed to join certain medias this year, push for some content for him next and not shy away from it is the next step. you gotta set up the mood first you know?
Which poster here knows the most about Sonic characters?
>>538193223i'm not getting my hopes up for anything, i just like seeing him getting some recognition, but the fact that some tards lie and scream about the most insignificant details now? it's just pure jealousy and am all for it!
I know the diameter of every character's butthole.
>>538192409https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/rumor-paramount-has-big-plans-for-silver-shadow-spin-off-could-be-a-movie-r2676/this i think?
>>538193557Sparky...
>>538189442Mimic’s story in the annual was a piss poor attempt to justify his shortcomings, it doesn’t even matter if he’s blinded by arrogance or grudges, he literally had no plan this entire time other than stabbing Whisper with his knife whenever he felt like it.
>>538193536Silver isn't real retard.
Would you be fine with SA2 being remade in the Hedgehog Engine?
>>538193536Who would be jealous of Silver?
I wanna fuck Sonic’s wife
>>538193243Dc, crossworlds animations, Sonic&friends, official art,...all of them are official silly worm, the fact that more people see him and like him as well is just the icing on the cake, tell me how painful is that for you?
>>538192614Because that makes Silver's relationships with their present versions awkward. Future Shadow in particular would be immensely overpowered if he never stops getting stronger like Sonic does from game to game. Not to mention giving him knowledge of the present cast's future lives even indirectly is something ST probably wants to avoid.
>>538193268>source?It was destroyed
>>538193741Fuck no.
>>538188786>>drawing>19hrs working>3hrs sleeping>2hrs eating/cleaning>>storyboarding>10hrs working>4hrs extra working>6hrs sleeping>4hrs eating/cleaningDo manga fans realise they're killing their creators?
>>538193767Someone who craves his girls
>>538193741I have too much fatigue for remakes now, man. Besides, most remakes are just revisions.
>>538193848It's okay Surge and Kit cut Future Shadow's arm off.
Perfect System got updated.https://astromuseum.org/sonicZone/perfectsystem/sonicperfectsystem>Updated to Sonic Perfect System Collection: BLACK LABEL.>Removed sections for Sonic 1/2/CD RSDK Decompilations and Sonic 3 A.I.R. I no longer use the former, and the modding community for the latter keeps imploding. Just use Ultrafix.>Re-Translated mods moved to 'Optional' across the board.>Replaced Sonic Adventure Re-Translated with a newer mod using an updated translation.>Sonic Unleashed section updated with new mod selection.>Added Shadow Generations.
>>538193840shut the up, Geoffrey
>>538193691>Mimic’s story in the annual was a piss poor attempt to justify his shortcomingsAnd to add insult to injury, the person who wrote it wasn't even aware he'd be killed off until after #79 debuted. The writers collectively suck at both their job and basic communication as much as the characters do.
>>538193741Kek. I’m afraid not.
>>538193694>>538193767The saltiness is real, never though my goat would slap back this hard, this is awesome!
>>538193741i don't care about SA2 bromaybe SA1 nah fuck remakes
>>538193848>Not to mention giving him knowledge of the present cast's future lives even indirectly is something ST probably wants to avoid.Pretty sure just making future Shadow unable to remember, or just have vague memories would be a simple fix.
>>538192387I hate it when I work on an image that already had its background removed.
>>538194014>wasn't even aware he'd be killed off until after #79 debutedThat means she didn't even read the solicitations, those were popping off about only one would survive.
>>538194081hey can you remove bark and bean from this picture, they aren't villains
>>538193893You mean boys?
>>538194014I still don't understand if he's supposed to be gibbed on a children's comic book page
>>538194056AGH RODENT ON THE SOFA
>>538194081Is this what guys do?
>>538194008nuh
You guys are just setting yourselves up for failure. Sonic Team has gone on record saying they didn't learn a fucking thing from 06.
>>538194056Its not jealously but they are seething because people are enjoying Silver content lol
>>538191640>>538192853Iizuka confirming that Sonic Heroes was downgraded to run on PS2 lol>—I see. It surely must have been a challenge to develop all three at the same time. Does the hardware vary much?>Iizuka: It can. The first one we worked on at Sonic Team was the PS2, but several things didn't go as well as we'd estimated. In truth, if we fiddled with the maps and customized them for each console it would be easier to develop, but then people with different consoles wouldn't be able to talk to each other about their experiences. So we made sure the content was always exactly the same.
Everyone else is starting to see the potential. Why aren't (You)?
>>538194278That too
>>538193857kek
>>538194439None of it is official.
>>538193271
>>538194509>That tooNo just this lol
>>538194428No they did, they learned not use any other character and not to make any new stories.
>>538194462>muh potentialIf and when but never IS.
>Sage kills the entire future because Silver made a jab at her in a cart raceNo that's fucking stupid
>>538192531I'm a fan of silver realizing that silvaze and everything in 06 is what they wanted for Silver so everything I wanted is not what Sonic Team wanted because they would have done so. It's my fault
>>538194597then why are people seething? >>538194462all of this by one line of dialogue too lol
>>538194462Because we're going to get silvazeslop again except this time it will be Ian flavored and extremely cringe.
>>538194801He IS a wind god you dumb nigger
What if they bring back Venice
Silver doesn't seem clever enough to keep it a secret if Sage or Shadow are in the future. They're likely dead.
>>538194907
>>538194801Free HIm
>>538194987See >>538194798
>thinking Sonic Team will do anything cool ever againLOLLMAO
>>538194987>SageSilver (in the english version of Crossworlds) said that the Eggman Empire doesn't exist in his time.
Sonic is not the wind>B-B-BU-Sonic is NOT the wind
>>538195067damn Nicky T. Hedgehog, vessel for WindGodnic
Holy kino
>>53819389099% of mangaka don't storyboard. Hell half of them make their story up on the fly. Dbz had nothing planned out and was made chapter by chapter. Your really over estimating how terrible being a mangaka is, if it was so awful you wouldn't have a bunch of people working to be one. It's especially retarded to pretend drawing is this awful back breaking work, when someone who's making a manga likes drawing and most of the time likes drawing the manga itself. you don't make a job out of art if you don't like doing it, and theirs way easier ways to make money from art than making manga specially in japan. That and your overestimating how long drawing takes, maybe for you it takes a day to get a single image finished, but line art and basic manga shading take like 30-40 minutes.
>>538194014>>538194225>>538194292Gigi wanted Mimic to be more than he was ever introduced as. Evan dragged him out beyond his purpose. Ian shut the lid on it without them knowing. Character of all time
>>538194801Sounds epic.But both would kneel to Jet the official MASTER of the wind.
Sonic is not the wind, he's something else.
>>538195294Sonic is Cthulhu trapped in a hedgehog bodyoh wait that's Shadow
>>538194801the closest thing right?
The wind fucks Surge and Sonia
If Sage ruined Silver's future then he'd have to go back in time and kill her.
>>538194006Never heard of this or Ultrafix, but lol @ the demotions.
I do not understand why you guys try to make this franchise which is EXPLICITLY aimed at kids 6-11 to be this grand, epic thing when it simply isn't.
>>538195402What is this thing and why does it look like if Storm and Blaze had a child together?
>>538195602Two major characters explicitly watched their loved ones killed in front of them. That's not an excuse anymore.
>>538195602why shouldn't kids content be grand?
>>538195671a wind genie from riders
>>538194225I have no idea why they let Gigi blindly write the backstory of a long established character. They really don’t give a shit about any of these characters.
Was Frontiers not epic enough for you faggots?
>>538195230>99% of mangaka don't storyboard. Hell half of them make their story up on the fly. Dbz had nothing planned out and was made chapter by chapter.I can't find the interview but I remember Toriyama saying he was thinking about Namek as early as the 23rd Budokai He had either planned it to end of Frieza or Cell. Editors were pretty down on him during the Android/Cell Saga portion of the manga.>Originally planned for Androids 19 and 20 to be the villains>Editor says no because they look silly>Toriyama then makes 17 and 18>Editor still says no because no one would teenager villains seriously>Toriyama makes First Form Cell>Editor doesn't like how Cell looks>Toriyama makes Semi Perfect Cell>Editor wants a more humanoid Cell similar to Freeza>Perfect Cell is settled uponFunfact: Originally it was going to be Gogeta the one who will fight Buu but thanks to the Fusion movie Toriyama got cucked and had to create the "Potara fusion " thing.
>>538195284VICTORY
>>538195602>why you guysUs? You mean Sonic Team? They've been doing this since Sonic 3.
>>538195602You're just asking people to stop having effort.
>>538195602>which is EXPLICITLY aimed at kids 6-11 to be this grand3D Sonic games have been E10+ for 20 years.
>>538194987Shadow is stuck in a bestie box
>>538195818It was too epic.
>>538195750Those deaths weren't even particularly horrific you fucking babies.>>538195754It's not about if it should or should be, I'm saying Sonic simply isn't
>>538195818It was an attempt, but the animation being worse than 2009 Bayonetta kind of kills it for me
>>538195602>>538195924Low effort cringe bait.
>>538195602that wasn't the case at some point....
>>538195818Frontiers is only epic on the surface level. Nothing happens in that game.
wait how the fuck did Blaze know that Iblis would accept her as the vessel if she never went back in time with Silver
>>538195402The Babylon guardian isn't really a god, just a security program.
Okay, now that Silverfags have returned Nega back to us Blazebros. What's next for our negative dimensional counterpart of Eggman? Should the Nega versions of his family appear?
>>538195950>>538194462>>538192241>>538190206>>538189892>>538189671Nobody actually wants uwuver and this is proof. Foids need to haul their asses back to tumblr
>>538195195sex with this image
>>538196050Now you’re just being a hater.
>>538196073I'm still trying to figure out how the fuck her sould counts a a "royal" one despite her not being a princess in Silver's time.
>>538195818It was too busy apologizing for the Meta Era to truly be epic.
>>53819607306 doesn't bother to explain anything. Especially with Blaze.
>>538194006Oh great, another pretentious "My mods are the ideal experience" bullshit. Also, nobody cares about "derp Knuckles spindash out of glide" bullshit.
>>538196176I'm really not. There was no real plot in that game. Characters talked a lot and did every little. At the end everything is the same as it has always been.
Do you trust Flynn with rewriting SA1, SA2 and S06 for the modern audience?
>>538196394Fuck off.
>>538196339Okay…
>>538196252>>538196176The Super Sonic boss fights are epic if you're like 5 years old. They're so lazily animated it's sad
>>538196253I'm still not convinced that Blaze wasn't some kind of tulpa that Silver created. No other character acknowledges her existence.
Shadow and maria made out
>>538196182>despite her not being a princess in Silver's timeSee >>538171396
>>538196394Never never, and that's a GOOD thing!
>>538196073She just assumed that her fire powers made her a more suitable vessel.
>>538196394
Why do western fans hate Sonic's anime roots?
>>538196506That is not an explanation. That's an anti explanation if anything.
>>538196462This. Everyone on release was hyping it up as next MGR/Bayo/DMC and in reality is such a shallow poor imitation that can't live up to the quality of decade old games. MGR came out in fucking 2013 and you're telling me we're only NOW scrapping the barest surface of that?
>>538196394I don't trust anyone to do anything to those games because whatever they do will be a severe downgrade
>>538196607What do you mean by "anime"
>>538196643The explanation is that Sonic Rush happened first.
>>538196495and Maria started it
>>538196462They were forced hype moments.
>>538196607Why do weeaboos hate Sonic's American roots?
>>538196607Because Sonic was made to appeal to the west.
>>538196479>Blaze wasn't some kind of tulpa that Silver createdWeird coincidence that said tulpa resembles an actual character sonic and the others knew in other games/stories.
>>538196607Where's the pixel one from? Also until recently I didn't know Sonic was from Japan.
>>538196495Dogfucking coded post
>>538196740People actually compared it to those games? It wasn't even close to them in any capacity.
>>538196809>Why do weeaboos hate Sonic's American roots?Americans barely worked on Sonic 2
>>538196791That's retarded.>>538196840Did Sonic know her? He and no other character reacted tpo Blaze's presence at all.
>>538196394maybe penders traumatized me so i can't think straight when it comes to sonic but his shitty writing becomes more apparent to me when i read the stuff he wrote for mega man as he was turning roll into an insufferable dyke>>538196607>why do nintenboomer sally coomer diaper shitting classic tranny reddit nostalgia junkie westumblr fake fans hate sonic's anime rootsgee i wonder>>538196831>sonic was made to appeal to senile trannies allergic to action oriented story tellingok, watch them get pissy when you call sonic shonen, that's what "anime" meanssonic can't have cool fights only slice of life steven universe garbage
>>538196114He should do fun pranks to Blaze like destroying her reality.
>>538196607Hogfucking coded post
>>538196857The original Sega/Mega-CD version. It redraws a lot of the original and is basically its own cut, separate from the PC version you're used to seeing.
>>538196967>It wasn't even close to them in any capacity.Sonic fans massively overhype modern games because they based their entire personality on children's media. Very common unfortunately.
>>538197027Oh no, things happened off-screen.
>>538196857>Where's the pixel one from?The original animation in the Sega CD was very compressed and shitty. I think it was either the PC port or the rerelease in Gems Collection that had the more faithful animationhttps://youtu.be/rUTbCQsaujE?si=pTO-r-AG8aSKjdeK
>>538196831Ohshima said he was made to appeal to both Japan and the West. Characters like Tails and Amy are explicitly Japanese.
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>>538197027Reincarnation theory is retarded because Blaze would have nothing to do with Sonic's time if that was the case.
>>538196050>Nothing happensonly worthwhile thing that happened was eggman got a cunny daughter wife LOL
>>538197216>Oh no, things happened off-screen.Please don't start with me. No other story forces its audience to jump through hoops to accept its plot elements.
>>538196607because they're mostly Satam boomertards or IDWtrannies
>>538196114They don't necessarily have to the same as the main universe, but>Nega-Gerald was part of a deep sea investigation group, tasked with creating a means of immortality while secretly developing a bioweapon. He initially entered the agreement with the intention of controlling the parties involved only to get uno-reversed.>Maria's equivalent is a genius scientist, cold but well-meaning. An accident renders her unable to die.>Gerald's bioweapon involved harnessing the power of the Sol Emeralds, which he would model after members of the royal family.
>>538197281You do know Oshima is a westaboo that celebrates Christmas right?
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>>538196967>>538197184>Sonic fansDid you guys miss the whole wave of normies putting Sonic in those status memes where Vergil and Jetstream Sam save you from the porn punchline? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSZkAwHkvjchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OImh-gj26j4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oushZ6Z17JAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoydCh6iplwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8_8y1pHfNAComparison to MGR during the ending tides of it's online revival is half the reasons normies even gave a fuck about Frontiers
>>538196792Why was Maria so perverted? He was only two when she struck.
>>538197502And that's supposed to change what Ohshima said somehow?
>>538197438This is actually pretty good.
>>538195818It was fucking shit. The pacing and themes were totally fucked. They did a shit job setting up the parallels between Sonic and his friends and the hero of the ancients and their squad. Instead of going with the memory loss subplot and having Sonic regain his memories of his friends as he saw the Hero and their squad's stories play out, they had the characters themselves dump the exposition on us, then they dumped all of ancients on a single island. Sonic's friends are freed and then *immediately* go back to Cyberspace. This should have been played up as them putting their faith in Sonic to change the outcome of the final battle as *different* from the Hero. Like the fact that Sonic's friends took on the cyber corruption so that Sonic can fight the end should have been the deciding factor. Instead they added an entire fucking Island after that. What the actual fuck where they thinking?
now using this for the next thread
SoA just need to die already
I personally did not like how Frontiers wanted you to basically restart the entire game after a Super Sonic boss battle. And no one asked for cut up Generations stages for cyberspace.
>>538193180Wanna try that again ESL?
>>538197853I like the idea of using Super Sonic for bosses, a nice switch up from only being Super Sonic during the final boss I just wish the fights weren't so QTE heavyAnd the Generations stages wouldn't be so bad if they used more than like 3 environments
>>538198032>I like the idea of using Super Sonic for bosses, a nice switch up from only being Super Sonic during the final bossI disagree with that, it ruined the impact Super Sonic has due to overuse.
>>538197860>I don't want Marvel comics where they have a million writers where only one is good>I want a million mangakas where only one is good
>>538198457I'm used to seeing Super Sonic all the time in the stages from the classic games so it doesn't bother me but I can see your point
>>538197219It's truncated, but it has a few extra/different bits of animation. The "full" version is actually based on a console proto, unknown if the completely uncut thing exists.
>>538194225>Shit! How am I supposed to profit off a dead character?! I dunno dumbass how does Oda still profit off Ace, Whitebeard, Roger and Vegapunk?If your character is worth a damn they can always be brought back using flashbacks, is Mimic worth flashbacking to? or hell how about Bardock? A character who was dead long before the main story even begins
My pitch to fix Sonic Forces and complete the Tanabata Trio of Shadow/Maria and Silver/Blaze.SONIC WARS: THE BATTLE AGAINST ROBOTNIKThe world belongs to Dr. Robotnik. For three months, his Empire has silenced the globe under an iron fist. Sonic the Hedgehog is MISSING.But hope is not lost. It's steadfast in rebellion as long as the wind blows free. Led by Miles "Tails" Prower, the Freedom Fighters' rookie is a lone survivor of the new world's horrors, the "Avatar." Can a terrified citizen find courage within to confront their nemesis?The architect of this nightmare is the commander Infinite, a masked enigma wielding the reality-bending Phantom Ruby. He commands an army of phantoms resurrected from Sonic's past.When a distress signal crosses the stars, a new player enters the war: Princess Sally Acorn arrives from Mobius, ready to repay a long-time friend for his aid many moons ago.Their first mission? The impossible. Sonic is discovered ALIVE by Sally Acorn's intelligence gathering, a prisoner on the Death Egg! It's up to the Avatar to stage a daring rescue alongside the princess of Planet Mobius and reignite the flame of hope.With Sonic free, the final battle begins! As Robotnik prepares to incinerate the Earth with an artificial sun, the heroes launch a desperate, three-pronged assault. Sally attacks the Death Egg's core, the Avatar confronts a vengeful Infinite, and in a final, stunning team-up, Sonic and Sally unite at last to shatter the Empire's ultimate weapon!Once the dust settles, the three heroes must part ways. The Avatar returning to their peaceful life, Sonic to his friends, and Sally to her home planet in a heart warming farewell and send-off to two fan favorite OCs.NOTE: Sally died on the way back to her home planet.
>>538198704wtf happened to the pichttps://tcrf.net/Proto:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_CD_(Sega_CD)/Prototype_510#Opening_FMVAlso a few extra bits in the ending animation, like Amy blinking, the retouched Little Planet sparkle and Sonic and Metal racing in the distance in the speedway, are not in the "full" version.
>>538199056>ROBOTNIKAlready failed
>>538195234Jeez talk about a triple ego clash, Gigi wanted this, Evan wanted that, Ian has the top spot and the final say other than Sega so he quells them both and kills Mimic dead, Evan copes by getting to endulge in her favorite past time, ship baiting and culture war triggering to get people talking. I wonder if Clutch is going through the same thing, I thought it was odd how Eggman dragged him away yet his next appearence is randomly being bullied by Rough and Tumble, saying he's out of the crime business to Sonic and Chaotix and pointing them to a generic abandoned Eggman base effectively closing the book on Clutch without killing him of but also not bothering to explain what eggman did to ihm and why even through Eggman had much more hostile intentions for Starline and Mimic, he threatened to kill Mimic, he was going to torture and robotize Starline but instead decided to leave him to die when the area their battle took place in started crumblingI can't help but feel like even with other antagonists Ian has a need to make absolutely sure that only Eggman is a geniune threat and any others must either be subsurvent to Eggman or be rendered so pointless they aren't even threats anymore, that thing with Clutch kinda closed the book on Rough and Tumble as antagonists as well.If they were allowed to recycle the egg boss idea from Archie I bet you that Starline, Rough,Tumble, Mimic, Surge, Kit and Lunar would of been those henchmen, 7 henchmen plus Metal Sonic, Orbot, Cubot and now Sage would have given them an antagonistic group when they wanted to have fights but didn't wanna waste Eggman on them
>>538194170you can never take her backgrounds from her forever
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