Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #8618 - Elias the Men Enjoyer Edition==NEWS==>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Animationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocBa8jTXUA >TailsTube #13 - Pit Crewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiYfo0Wy2NA >Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk 7 | Dr. Eggman, Zavok, & Zazzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX7MOcp_ZX4 >Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayedhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/==Comics Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 22 October 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 5 November 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 26 November 2025Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zone>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ cytube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgThread Theme: https://youtu.be/IDE-0AfzdmI [Open]Previous Zone: >>538296974
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Co-existence with mobians.
Tails!
>>538329691so why is it that every good restaurant chain was created by non crackers? get real.
When is Marine coming back?
Have a lovely sunday and a good upcoming week, /sthg/
>>538329891...like?
>>538329860ay yo, he ain't eaten the apples
>>538330017When will Amy get fixed?
>>538329968Whenever Sega of Japan updates the Sonic Channel website. It's criminal that she no longer has a page despite having a fresh render from Speed Battle.
Billy Hatcher intro is remarkably similar to Sonic and the Black Knight. They both save some people and get isekaid.
Corrupting Maria!
Since it was brought up. Who the fuck washes their chicken? Why would you wash your chicken if it's already pre-cut? I could understand cutting off the fatty and discolored bits but ffs do not wash your chicken. Cooking is going to sterilize it regardless if you cook it to temperature and all you're doing is watering the flavor down.
>shitverfags getting uppitythis is what most people think of your twink faggot
>>538330039I can't stand that people don't realize Shadow was the one who pissed Sonic off not the other way around in SA2. No one fucking pays attention
>>538329860this dude is drinking the apple juice
Someone post the bestie collage I need it for an argument
Real!
>>538330017This setback has been a wakeup call in getting a backup computer in case shit happens.Sucks that this is going to set me back by at least a week, but it is what it is.
New cute OC for Silver
>>538330198A twitter post supporting silver got 3 times as many likes, kek
>>538329968You don't want her back, Sonic Team wants her to be a simp for Silver.
>>538329724>Eli-ass filled with werehog seed and hedgehog feed
>>538330198
>>538329724Elias. What do you think of him?
>>538330191sometimes there are hidden blood clots and those can add a funny unwanted taste to your broth / pot / grill / whatever you are trying to cook
If self-insert as Silver and jerk off to Gabs's slop and if Silver gets popular enough it will be like I'm having sex with Blaze.
>>538330357Those thighsTHOSE THIGHS
>>538330170
>chadverbros getting their desserts
>>538330191Retards and 3rd worlders. I know I said the same thing twice. The actual reason you should NEVER wash chicken is because you're spreading out bacteria and pathogens all over your sink and kitchen like a fucking idiot when you do.
>>538330489Cute and kissable boy
It started soo good.
>>538330381I want her to be a simp for Blaze, not Silver!
>>538330490You should just cut those off instead of trying to wash it. The blood clot is in the meat itself, washing it won't do anything. The only reasonable thing I could think of where it would be necessary to wash chicken meat is if you just finished cutting it yourself or you're getting it from a dirty butcher shop for some reason.
>>538329858
>>538330380botted likes aren't people retard
>>538325302Sonic embodies the attitude of the 90s, and Shadow is the face of 2000s edge. But I don't know if Silver is part of any zeitgeist. It's like when Megaman added Axl to X and Zero's team. Granted! Sonic has recovered since that era while Megaman is fucking over.
>>538329724>/sthg/ #10000 Project Threadhttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>>538330645It was literally just a rehash of Heroes
>>538330381I have no idea where that came from, last i saw they have no idea what to do with her but taking Blazes place as guardian when she's in a story
>>538330380>>538330459Can we not waste any attention on the Silverschizo, please? Just report and ignore, they're not worth the attention in any capacity.
I despise Duofag for making me to love huge Sally
>>538327667>No eyelashesDefinitely a boy. Just like Barry
>>538330741> AGAINST MY SILVERSPERG NARRATIVE? IT'S B-BOTTED LIKES you cope, here's another
>>538330357based OCs being chads and stacies
>>538330735So beautiful and pure...
>>538330156Honestly speaking? I don't think she will ever be now.>>538330347I saw the original post but I went to sleep shortly after and I was kinda out the entire day. Sad to hear about what happened, i will say that I don't really care if you make cutouts for me everyday as long you are still around and you are! So overall I hope you are okay, anon.
>>538330745This. No one actually likes Axl.
>>538330796idw's "hype" arcs are just recycled old stuff
>>538330869Silver getting some baby steps makes them terrified
Real samefag hours right now, sees.
>>538330357the moment Silver gets a qt future gf Blaze will vanish forever
>>538330914youtubebabbies and jeetbots don't represent the fandom
>>538330886
>>538330874I don't like duofag for being insufferable cunt. He at least embraced artistic personality.
>>538330914REDEEM
Silver won't win until his 2000's personality is reasserted over Uwuver. We're halfway there with CrossWorlds.
>>538330621Such a beautiful statement, I miss greentext eliasbro
>Metal 32%>Silver 35%>1000 votesyour desperation is showing
>>538331091>more silversperg desperate cope
>>538330191Watching that argument between people about what counted as seasoning was hilarious. Some people legitimately do not considered cut and diced onion as seasoning or fresh garlic as spice.
I need the full picture and who made it.
>>538330489Double threat, fluffy and adorable. Oh wait, that's Tails. Just fluffy.>>538331163He sure wrote some nice greens.
>>538331060No! Blaze will still have Sonic, Silver and Blaze never needed each other, Sega just doesn't use them.
>>538330886>>538331092Ooc and fucking disgustingShadow would understand and Rouge wouldnt be so ugly as a human
>>538330874Same, same
>>538331260While I have no clue who did it, what is it missing?
>>538331060Grimly true. The exact moment Silver gets his own cast you'll see Silverfags drop Blaze en masse.
>>538331427KekSilverfags are desperately trying to get Sega to notice them
>>538331427>PS8ftfy
*slurp*
>>538331157the fact that IDW draws him with the butterfly eyes now tells me we are going on a good direction at least
>>538330914There's a new one if he isn't so sure
>>538331502They really think some dialog exchange between Silver and Sage (which doesn't exist in the japanese version btw) is their gateway to a Silver game. They're as delusional as Nakamura.
>>538331468Sorry I meant the OP picture. I need it.
>>538331060Silver is driven by themes and Tanabata is one of his themes.
Nobody actually likes Silver, they like the idea of Silver being good. It's like Waluigi in Smash; nobody would actually main him if he got in, but the idea that he could be good has turned him into an enigma. The moment after he gets the spotlight again and stops being an enigma people will drop him.
>>538331537Fuck youI laughed...
>>538331651He isn't. Nakamura doesn't give a fuck about Blaze.
i've been coping with mega man lately and as i play the series i start developing my own grudges with a lot of the design choices and i'm constantly comparing it to sonic in my mind and wondering what a sonic x mega man crossover would play like and honestly with all the crossovers capcom has done it surprises me that they never thought to cross them both over in a game, a lot of the time where i'm clearing a mega man stage i just find myself thinking "oh yeah sonic could have a shield when he goes fast to deflect projectiles" and other brainstormy indie type shit and i don't know i'm rambling i feel like the only thing keeping me a sonic fan is the fact that most other franchises outside of mario and sonic are dead and idgaf about mario cause it's even more barebones and soulless than sonic and mega man in my eyes mega man for crossworlds or riot outside of sega hq fuck yakuza
Nic
>>538331260@echaotix on Twitter>>538331332Yes he wrote some nice greentexts, I wish he would do something more arousing
I want to fuck CreamThat's all
>>538331743Get Waluigis name out of your fucking mouth!
>>538330989These are stretches.
>>538331743I'm wondering how long it'll be until the popular artists get bored of Silver and ride a different hype train or go back to what they usually draw.
>>538331585Evan also understands that he's supposed to be serious and have attitude. At this point it's up to whether or not Ian understands he's supposed to be rude yet.
>>538331835>>538331650
>>538331835I miss eliaseditanon.
>Samefagging
>Amy, the girl who's into fate, soulmates, dousing, and oracles>Ever saying this>Ian couldn't even be respectful and had to but god instead of God
>>538330912Cool.
>>538332040Evan if Ian understands he'll probably not commit out of spite because he wants things his way.
>>538331743>It's like WaluigiWaluigi is a beloved spinoff character, people just want more of him, but if he stays in spinoffs a lot of people still love him. Your comparison only helps silver.
>silverfags are having fun with that line of crossworldsgood for them
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC, MEME REACTION MAN.
>>538332147I hate that cutscene, but this wasn't Ian's fault for once.
>>538332212He'd now himself
>>538331897Nah it's the same shit. If Waluigi was a "real" character nobody would give a fuck. If Silver was a succesful character nobody would give a fuck. Silver would be Knuckles tier. He probably wouldn't even have more appearances than he does now.
>>538331743tons of people would main waluigi, what are you onsmash also isn't why he got popular, it only proves he is popular to request
>>538332179>Evan*Even
>>538332179I think he'll half commit out of spite.
>>538332352NOW??
All this Silver talk is boring
>>538332246But doesn't Ian write all the dialogue for Frontiers?
>>538332357>If Waluigi was a "real" character nobody would give a fuck. If Silver was a succesful character nobody would give a fuck.>Coping hypotheticals with zero backup.The fact you think no one cares about Waluigi already goes against your claims
Sonazebros you gotta let it go mang..
>>538332357Wtf are you Sonicbabs trying to say?
>>538332491No, Ian wrote:-The English dialogue in the cutscenes in Frontiers (some of it was kept in Japanese, a lot of it was drastically changed)-The Egg Memos-The main cutscenes in The Final Horizon (not the one to one side interactions between the characters)
>>538332524>sonaze out of nowheremindbroken
>>538332524Sonazers just got flirty dialogue in CrossWorlds. They're good.
>>538331730>pats head furiously
Douge
>>538332615Lanolin....my love>>538332616Ah, I see
>>538332616 (Me)Forgot to list:-The idle dialogueAnyways, point was, we don't know who exactly wrote that scene. Ian took no credit for that
>>538332463*know
>>538332524truth
>>538332470We should post Silver porn instead.
>>538332524I don't care about either ships but I hate how silvaze just pops out of no where. no intros, no development, no anything. they just make 2 sonaze heavy games then they have Silver and Blaze shipped in the other game and never explain anything about how they met to make the ship passable. it's as if someone saw them together and went "MMMMMMMMM SHIPPING" for the sake of it
>>538332726
Okay, but imagineAnti-Restoration
>>538332689The cutest and sweetest
>>538332895or plot-twist:Eggman co-opts the Restoration
>>538332750Sonic Team are really incompetent artistic types that are heavily focused on fancy ideas. They were probably hoping the "lore team" would clean up everything for them but even Ian actually knows less about the series than most fans.
>>538332470Let's talk about AmyNow since the other Amyfag is a bit sad, how should we fix her anon?
>>538332185>beloved spinoff characterThat's my point. If Waluigi was an actual character he would lose the his je ne sais quoi of being a spinoff character and be liked less. Same with Silver. Like the reason people want him in the movies and want him in the games is the idea that he "deserves it" or has potential or the narrative of being a redemption arc. It's got human intrigue that will immediately disappear once he's been given another chance.
Sonic and Silver's cocks stretching Blaze's pussy.
>>538332823It's made worse by the fact that Silver and Blaze have absolutely no chemistry whatsoever on screen and the writers have to tell the audience how "in-sync" they are without actually showing it. I can't fucking stand the way Sonic Team writes.
>>538333000Write her like in SA1
>>538333063Stretching it by 1 nanometer
why do you destroy the restoration only to make even more restoration garbage IDW deserves to die
>>538333000You can delete her because she's ugly as crapHopefully we don't have to deal with her too much in the movie. Maybe have her locked away
>bestie
>>538333058...HE'S FRENCH!
>>538332895Destruction?Yeah, I can imagine that
>>538332057I think it was doodle made by random gayfag back in early 2024 or something, he would do funny gay edits of Elias. I miss him, I miss Boy-contentfag
>>538333220Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
>>538333162Evan tried to destroy the Restoration only for Ian to say that there's more Restoration.
>>538331885Based and ditto.
>>538332964Frontiers 2 can't come sooner
>>538333000>Now since the other Amyfag is a bit sadyou mean the cutout anon? I personally feel okay right now.
Cream, Amy and SticksThe new better Team Rose!
>>538333039Did you draw this
>>538333278that's interesting but I still wish I had this butt focused elias picture, even cropped is hot as fuck
Once you realize Ian's writing is founded on public opinion and being meta, you'll find yourself not enjoying it anymore.
>>538333000Anyone other than Ian writes her. Can't wait to see what Pat Casey does because it'll be a breath of fresh air and I'd take anyone.
>>538333598Anons, ar-are we Ian?
>>538333598I never enjoyed it, even his archie clean-up was controversial
>>538333378True. I hope we at least get the short teaser before the year ends. Maybe at the Sonic Central or Game AwardsWhat would you like to see in the game?
>>538333549Ian killed sticks being part of IDW because his own hubrisNow Sticks is dead forever
>>538333549Amy is power and Sticks being speed that runs on all 4s HNNNNNNNNGGG
>>538333549https://archiveofourown.org/works/65052328/chapters/167276344?view_adult=true
latina titties
>>538333775Yes anon of course, its not like Sonic Team never cared for her to begin with or anything.
>>538333549>betterYou can't erase Big.Big is like their giant guardian protector.
>>538333770Better and fully original cyberspace levels, better puzzles, better combat, better visuals, better story and dialogue, good music with an epic orchestra remix, character theme songs, better bosses and multiple playable characters. Plus NPCs with missions and better level design in the open world. No pop in and less physics bugsIn other words just a better game overall. They already have the base set, just build on top of it
>>538333924
>>538332524I just hate that Silver devalues Blaze merely by existing. I'm not into Sonaze.
Which is the cutestI like the top right
>>538332363>tons of people would main waluigiyeah just like people said they would main Plant, right?>smash isn'tSmash would validate him, that's why people want him. That's why people want year of Silver or a movie or a game. They want Silver to be validated. That's not the same as actually liking him.
>>538334105..how? blaze was always going to be tied with the sol dimension they don't even overlap
>>538334105>I'm not into Sonaze.Yes you are.
>>538333723Never saw any fanart with this skinCare to link the source?
>>538334127Bottom right, it's his true character being overly serious but very pure
>>538334057Adding Dark Gaia to the movies would require some insane CGI
>>538332524You'll always be frauds.
>>538334105Silver is literally written under her at all times when they're together.
>>538334070
I asked this before the other day, I'll ask again: >>538199615Why is there an updated mod for Sonic Adventure when it's usually just Windii material?I thought the windfags here would have an answer.
>>538334127At least this Silver is cute but still capable and not a moronic wimp like Evan Stanley's UWUver
>>538334352*original pic
>>538334254It's a skin? I thought she came up with it. Sorry this link is HUGE https://www.xiaohongshu.com/explore/68bcfb25000000001b0237a8?xsec_token=AB1QAJEYa2UAoryEAUYuxyg--Ewv9LKzhH0snPUNWQjDE=&xsec_source=pc_user
>shitnaze>shitvazewho gives a shit talk about silver or blaze no shipping shit
Silvazefags only care about the ship, "you ship Sonaze" isn't even a valid argument when Silvazefags don't care about her arc in Rush, her lore, or personality.
i ain't ever rep a sat babyi ain't do no wrongi can clean up good for yai know right from wrong
>>538333220Every fucking time
>Sonic shipping good>Sonic games badFuck you niggers
>>538334191Because Silver devalues everyone he stands next to.>>538334234Sonic belongs to Amy. I just want Blaze to be a cool solo character.
>>538334140>yeah just like people said they would main Plant, right?what is this comparison, plant was a surprise character people didn't ask for, not to mention not really high tierif waluigi got a good moveset, people would definitely main him>Smash would validate him, that's why people want him. That's why people want year of Silver or a movie or a game. They want Silver to be validated. That's not the same as actually liking him.It easily can be both and you can't really put words into others mouths saying they don't like a character.
why are they like this bros
>>538334709silver and blaze are shipping charactersthey have no value otherwise
>>538334050Yeah that's all pretty easy to agree with lol>less physics bugsSome of them were fun even if unintentional. I hope they find a way to use those intentionally. The Homing Dash is something that makes Frontiers interesting and it would be fun to see some stages designed around itMy wishlist-Fully original and creative stages and open zones, none returning from previous games-No recycled level design at all-Varied locations, not too many cities, not too many grasslands-No 2D gameplay-No quickstep sections-Level design like The Final Horizon, but implemented within the environment in a way that looks believable-Multiple playable characters-Arcade modes and time attack modes for the regular stages, as well as the open zone platforming challenges, puzzles, and the combat-A serious story, but with a lighthearted tone, something more like Adventure or UnleashedAnd character theme songs, I wasn't going to mention it but that's something I wanted the series to bring back since forever and you just reminded me
>>538334837who plays sonic games unironically?
>>538334927>his wife posts her miscarriages on Deviantart...?????
>>538334105Silver doesn't devalue Blaze. Shipping in general devalues Blaze. Most Silvazefags will either keep her away from Sol or insert Silver into it by force, and most Sonazefags will ignore Rush Adventure and any world building from it.
>>538334784This woof fucks human men
>>538334927Sonicsisters, why can't any us be normal?
Sonic and Blaze's relationship is pure, organic, character focused, and gamepilled. Silvaze is forced, shitver focused, and propped up only by the shitty scribbles of foids.
>>538335036I do I love playing Sonic gamesSpeaking of I'm going to play Frontiers now
>>538335036I kneel, fuck these challenges
>>538334853>Because Silver devalues everyone he stands next to.I don't remember every character becoming a dumbass in games he's in, or everyone in IDW becoming OOC that praises him when he's around
>>538335070Silver devalues everyone by being a boring hedgehog.
>>538333598Once you realize that Ian is actually a shitty writer, you'll find yourself not enjoying it anymore.
>>538335175this is oocsonic doesn't have a couch
>>538331464Now do Cream getting double teamed by Rouge and the Conductor's Wife
most annoying thing about drawing blobians is how they dont really have buttcheeks. AND ALSO trying to pose them with those giant ass hands. i get why most artists scale down the hands a bit but i try to keep it on-model
>>538333698Men, what's stopping you from dressing like this?
>>538335175
>>538334853>because [SEETHING]holy shit nigger you are a shipper Blaze is a solo character , she wasn't even in forces
>>538335217Every character in idw is shit.
>>538335175this is oocsonic doesn't have a pillow
>>538334963>No 2D gameplayEven if they remove them from the open world they'll still be in the non-cyberspace levels since they're boost stagesUnless you want a complete removal of Boost which I agree with but probably won't happen. Current Sonic Team just doesn't know how to make a 3D game without boost. Kishimoto said that he would like to do so but I'm not sure those tweets of his really mean anything
>>538335365Money?
>>538335379You get it.
>>538335454Understandable
>>538334927>this nigga keeps a curated organized folder of this shit to assasinate people who insults his shipSilvazefags have no room to talk when Gabs literally payed money to ruin Ian's career because she's delusional.
>>538334853>Sonic [headcanon]
>>538334105Blaze is literally written as Silver's Girlfriend, what are you talking about?
>>538335365the trench coat ban in schools circa Columbine
>>538335305>he doesnt know who this commissioner is
>>538335454Executive order, give men fashion stamps so they can stop dressing like shit>>538335571What are they gonna do to Ian's income?
>>538335634nope
>>538335668Sonic isn't a crossdressing faggot like shitver. Sonic doesn't like shitmy and Blaze doesn't like shitver faggot
>>538335543almost like shipping shit is cancer mmm...You are just a pathetic sonazetranny and got exposed hard
>>538335452Yeah the boost shouldn't really be around. It's already kinda gone from Frontiers since it acts more like a run button and doesn't give invincibility. I think they should remove quickstepping and design the game around the Frontiers Spin DashThe Final Horizon has zero 2D and Kishimoto called that update a test for the next game, so it might actually be possible
>>538335378I like Sonadow but I can't help but to think that it's way too gay
Kit
>>538335782I know, I don't ship those, I just like boys
>>538335897idw and prime double down
>>538335975>>538335994>faggot loves shitvertypical.
>>538335902:)
Fag hours
>>538335893>The Final Horizon has zero 2D and Kishimoto called that update a test for the next game, so it might actually be possibleCool, let's hope they get rid of the boost completely and focus on more physics based platforming instead of the shitty Lost World physics. Also make it harder to get all the skills from the skill tree, and make the skill tree bigger. They could even add some metroidvania esque elements to unlock new areas to explore and progress the story but that's getting into the more hypothetical stuff
>>538336161>Tattered scarfIt's peak, I'm afraid
>>538336161kino...Hope chaosx finishes p06 this year so he can focus on his silver game
I will now consume some very BASED double class president shadaze slopfics. Very exciting stuff, I tell ya.
Silverkino
>>538334591All but two of those were drawn by Evan.
>>538330489Better than Sally
Frontiers Boost was nerfed to shit and is not fun.But they brought back and buffed the Spindash which now does what the boost used to do.
>>538336046Yes
>>538334853Based Gabs and silvazefags
>>538336540I'm sorry Shadow, I didn't mean to drag you into it.
>>538336540>>538336607Shadow got his balls removed
>>538336432>"They totally fuck behind tha--"No.Why there's so much Elially, especially compared to other ships?
Tailsfag silence is deafening
>>538336147I feel like skill trees would make more sense if they brought back the avatars from Forces, then it would add another layer of customization and the player would need to choose which abilities to unlock and which ones to ignoreIn Frontiers you just end up unlocking everything, so they're more like the Adventure or Unleashed upgrades with a different interface than something unique to Frontiers>>538336445Except it also launches you in the air which is funThere's this one rock at the start of the Giganto climb that I kept Spin Dashing off of to reach the top of Giganto faster in The Final Horizon. I kept thinking it felt intentionally put there, but I'm pretty sure it isn't. It works very well in that context. They should do things like intentionally
>>538336701They are royalty.
>>538336757Don't talk about them
>>538332978He's not the leader of the lore team so it doesn't really matter much.
>>538336757I think she's asleep?
>shitverfags are literal faggotsAnd you retards wonder why he's stuck in the vault. Your kind will die off soon.
>>538333000Amy Rose should be written like she was in Sonic Heroes, and anyone who doesn't like that can get Piko Piko Hammered into oblivion. Peak SonAmy dynamic is Black Knight Sonic and Heroes Amy.
It's their job to convince us to throw money at them, not to force us to conform to their arrogant views, for one
>>538336816sorry>>538336746Nice watermark
>>538336757Did someone ask for more Tails pics? I was mostly posting without pics, guess I should post more
>>538336865justinrpg coded
>>538336678Part of my shadaze fic where they decide to play it safe after giving birth to an heir.
>>538336993Fuck off pedo
>>538333357>Evan tried to destroy the RestorationWhich is why she put them rebuilding it right at the end.
>>538336956Boy Adam, that's a lot of words to avoid answering the simple question "why the fuck does Ian keep using out of place references and song lyric dialogue"
>>538336993Tails should fly like Cream and Rouge by flapping his tails instead of twisting them infinitely
>>538336814Archie Sonic did feel like Wester or lite at the time.
>>538337118I also have no idea what he actually said here
Sonic Team ruined Blaze.
>>538337081Tails isn't real. He isn't going to hurt you.
>>538337143Nah Tails' flight is perfect as is
>>538337143No the helicopter flight is cool and unique
>>538337081You asked for it
>>538336701Probably royal incest vibes.I know who Elias' heart truly belongs to
>>538337116>Which is why she put them rebuilding it right at the end.She didn't though. It got destroyed, only for Tangle to be like, "the Restoration was inside you all along" or something.
:D
>>538336956ABT is a furry faggot and /sthg/ should hate him Hei s a die hard ian defender i don't care if you people comm some art from him before
>>538337238>>538337268>>538337330Avatarfagging spammers
>>538337425Post the next page
Refute it
>>538337268>>538337321This is why Tails gets bullied
>>538337449>/sthg/ should hate himI can't, he's a gooner who made it to the official staff and still the best artist on IDW.
>>538336757For fuck sake stop bringing up your bullshit drama. No one cares idiot
>>538337212No they never did, it's Silver.
AtariX brainrot is the only thing keeping me a sonic fan
>>538337321ThisI like how his body is just above the ground and his tails spin while running>>538337537Tails' bullies get BTFO'd all the time
>>538337449Who defends ABT? They just jerk off to his drawings
The unknown is good.
>>538337449>ABT is a furry faggot and /sthg/ should hate himHating ABT because he's just like us is retarded.
>>538336956>Is given development and thoughtful careThat's presumptuous of him to assume that any and all writing by Ian Flynn is automatically good and thoughtful and worth it
>>538337382His wife Megan who looks just like the Acorns.
>>538337450>every post I don't like is spamYou will die sad, alone, and hated and Tails will remain loved by everyone!
>>538337783Why are you avatarfagging
>>538337449Not your personal army.
>>538337450Your seethe is delicious
>>538337679He's saying that it's not solely his product, every word that gets approval has to play a game of telephone to be published. You don't like IDW? Blame everyone, not just Ian.
Why did your mom cut yours?
Anyways I want to try the Frontiers Revisited mod>>538337783So sad, he could join us and happily love best boy, but instead he behaves like this
>>538337636It looks like a propeller too which ties him to the Tornado. Cool symbolism
Would Tails prefer rabbit or chicken?
Canon human x blobian romance
>>538337908What gift did he get her in space, a new oxygen tank?
>>538337896Rabbit for laying, chicken for eating
oooooh delicious meltie tears
You guys got namefags now? Yeesh, I thought this place couldn't get any worse.
>>538337884Yup
>>538338038Spamming pedo
>now
>>538337896Which one goes best with mint?
>>538337479Here's the next page, still no Restoration. And the next issue just has the comic OCs bumming around in a playground until Silver gives them a pep talk. How am I wrong?
Speaking of Tails’ tails, I wish they’d bring back his tail swipe as a regular attack
>>538338043>now
>he thinks there's only 1 tailschadlol how silly!
>>538334191>>538335070Silver devalues Blaze merely through the concept of his existence. It doesn't matter how shit of a character he is, or how bad the writing gets, he will always be carried by the fact that he on a very basic level is like Sonic and Shadow. A male hedgehog that can go super. And has a name that also coincidentally starts with the letter S. It's marketable. That's why they're marketed as a trio in the DC sets. It's why he gets to be front and center in the DC collab, but Blaze is relegated to cameo status. It's why Silver gets a spot in all the major marketing for crossworlds despite not being directly focused on while Blaze is basically no where to be seen. The only thing Blaze has gotten in recent years over him is TMOSTH and that's only because it's made by the social media team that actually gives a damn about her and isn't bound by the whims of having to market to specific demographics.It's just a fact that Triple S trio will be more appealing to little boys. They don't need to know anything about Silver, they'll just see him alongside Sonic and Shadow and assume he's similar. Blaze on the other hand stands out like a sore thumb next to Sonic and Shadow because not only is she female, but also a cat and her "super form" isn't technically a super form and doesn't fit with the golden color scheme. Both Silver and Blaze are the same in the sense they can both be protagonist game leading characters because they both have their own world settings, villains and duties to attend to, but realistically only one of them has a real shot at being explored since Sonic and Shadow are already the top dogs of the franchise. Silver is just going to be picked in every instance because of his existence being the way it is. And it makes me admittedly sad as someone who likes Blaze, she'll never get a chance by default. This isn't about shipping, Im just bitter I'll never get a Blaze game where she goes on an adventure with Marine in her world without Sonic
How do we get rid of this thread derailing retard
>>538337850Jeez, never meet your idols cause they'll have some dumb takes
noone of these posters like tails at all they just want to bait lol
>>538336498Nice Silverbro, it's a safe space here, tell us your fantasy about your favorite Mobian! >>538336432I wish there's a Rally4Sally but for Elias
>>538338189Yeah that was cool. His tails should a massive whip strength
>>538338254Report and ignore, Anon. That's literally all you have to do.
>>538338254ban trannies and make every state criminalize tails porn like in texas
>>538338189Someday I will go through all of Frontiers' cutscenes in both languages and comment on them here. Today is not that day. However, earlier I quickly checked a video of The Final Horizon, and Tails talks about needing to use gadgets and he says he can't fight like Sonic and Knuckles do. Yes you can Tails! You've done it before. Your tails attacks are cool and strong, don't underestimate them!
>>538337908it amazes me how autistic people here can be where they have to dig this fucking deep for their headcanon to be validated. This is even worse than taking shit like the Sonic Channel art at face valuethis maria shit is gay but I do ship every sonic girl x my dick
>>538338120The Restoration is still around, they just don't have an HQ. There was already an issue after this with Blaze, Amy, and Tails visiting a place that still had a Restoration.
>>538338043>nowThere have been namefags here for 11 years
>>538337589Yes they did. Iizuka, Nakamura and Maekawa only care about their shitty writers pets.
>>538338120>Here's the next page, still no Restoration.Actually read the panel anon. Jewel is literally having them get to work on rebuilding. I don't know why you guys made this fantasy about it being gone for good. That was clearly never the intention. Just delusion.
Melody
>>538336757>Spaz tries to pick up a fight with TailsGODS unprompted >gets his ass handed to him>starts crying about le spam to Garner sympathy I point and I laugh
>>538338276I love Tails
>>538338316I mostly like cuddles, mobians are a lot like plushies, except warm.
>>538338043NOW? way to out yourself as a tourist
>>538338403A person who works for Sonic Team called Shadow and Maria romantic. Seethe harder!
>>538338398>Someday I will go through all of Frontiers' cutscenes in both languages and comment on them here.
>>538338276Wrong
>>538338398>Yes you can Tails!Clearly not
Behold my OC
>>538338526Spaz? The artist, he's here?! Also that was the only post I made because I was nooticing.
>>538336031It's really a crime how Sonadow is more famous than SonKnux despite it being the shitter and less canon version of Gaynic ships, I suppose SonKnux more of a refined taste for the the Sophisticated Gentlemen, not for the common folks
>>538338251All I've ever wanted was a 3d playable game set in the Sol Dimension with Blaze, but it's never going to happen. Have fun with Year of Silver I guess when Ian inevitably whispers all the recent fan ideas to sega
Shadow and Maria love each other
>>538338254>thread derailing retard
>>538338721>What if Sonic *was* the Joker?
>>538338526Let me join you>>538338595I already did something like that before, I think I commented on the leaked Forces scripts while I was reading them either earlier this year or last year
>>538338251she never got a chance because she is bound by the sol dimension. Its why they gave her own emeralds and place.Also if something Blaze will be always eclipsed by Rouge and Amy >Blaze game where she goes on an adventure with Marine in her world without SonicIan Flynn , biggest Blaze "fan" didn't give a shit about Marine and wants to turn Blaze into Sally.Blaze have a setting and a her own cast at least. She has more than others. Oh and two games.
>>538338251I see a picture of Marine in this so I will read your text wall for that alone.
>>538338581why I am seething? lol
>>53833872>hedgehog Imagine his potential
Shadow and Maria have children in the good future
>>538338848>I already did something like that beforeWhy do you think I posted that reaction?
>>538338251...Silver devaluates Blaze because he's marketable?That has nothing to do with her, this is just pure jealousy and cope man.You could literally say the same exact thing about Sonic himself. here look "Sonic devaluates Blaze because people like him more then her"What type of argument is this? just say Blaze has less appeal and try to do something about it rather then dragging others with you like a sociopath
>>538338759Everything with Knuckles in it is automatically ungayed.>>538338776Does Ian get paid well enough to put up with all this shit? I don't think it's worth it
>>538338759Why do faggots insist on making Sonic vs Knuckles art still? They're friends and Knuckles is factually lame. Shadow was always Sonic's true rival and they look better together than the bright ADHD combination of Sonic and Knuckles.
>>538338721>>538338901
>>538338469>Jewel is literally having them get to work on rebuilding.Rebuilding the places that got wrecked by the crashing airship was well as aiding the wounded, not the Restoration itself. >I don't know why you guys made this fantasy about it being gone for good.Maybe because that was the actual case until Ian started writing again and flat-out ignored what Evan wrote. Again, #76 cuts to the comic OC moping in a playground compared to the last issue.
>>538338776>Have fun with Year of Silver I guess when Ian inevitably whispers all the recent fan ideas to segaNot even Silverfags truly believe that, it's just for hype.
Human x blobian marriage rights
>>538339039>They're friendsNo. Not at all.
>>538339039Knuckles was Sonic’s true rival before Shadow ever existed. People only like Shadow as a rival to Sonic because they ship them
>>538338759this collage is the definition of "these 2 characters interact with eachother in a same room, that means they are gay" kind of thing
>>538339039You said this exact same thing yesterday, why?
>>538336956ABT SHOULD JUST SHIT THE FUCK UP AND DRAW THE TITS! THE TTITS!
>>538339039Knuckles is "Anti-Sonic" at his core. "Sonic's Rival" is who he is. The same way "Sonic's Sidekick" is who Tails is, and "Sonic's Love Interest" is who Amy is.
>>538339183Good news, he still does
>>538338276You know this is true because it's always the same tails art regurgitated to troll.
>>538339039this logic is so retarded and you should feel bad
>>538336701Elias is scared of vagina>>538337382Based so friggin based
Newfag question but why people call the sonic characters blobians here? I just remember the term mobian whenever that was canon, maybe it still is, Idk
>>538338850>bound by the sol dimensionThis has literally never mattered and I am so sick of retards saying it does. Knuckles, Blaze, and Silver can just show up, and they do. You can explain it if its relevant, you can add a throwaway line if you like, or you can just ignore it. It just doesn't matter.
>>538338721thanks doc
>>538339381Its autism
>>538339381mobian is only canon in the archie comics and american cartoons. the only real canon term for the animal-people is "islander" which sounds retarded so people just made up blobian instead
>>538339381Because their feet in Sonic Team Pictures and Images are depicted as Blobs with no toes.
>>538339381because they have blobs instead of pawns aka not furryshit
>>538339381"Mobian" was never canon. "Mobius" was never canon. I call them "blobians" because 1) it's funny 2) they have cute blob feet. I don't want "blobian" to be used in the games, they're just people with an unusual appearance in-universe
>>538339394>Knuckles, Blaze, and Silver can just show up, and they do.And its always shit.
>>538338850>she never got a chance because she is bound by the sol dimension.That's another similarity she shares with Silver though. Being bound to a specific world. But idw gets around this by just using the excuse that something teleported them to sonic's world because it's in danger or whatever. Nothing is truly bound, if sega actually wanted to invest in her, they could. They just dont want to and I get why.>>538338972He has everything to do with her because they're designated joined at the hip now because of 06. Silver gets to exist without Blaze, but Blaze is hardly allowed to show up without Silver unless the social media team is behind it. They're supposed to be equals as a duo, but on a literal marketing level, that won't work. One is going to be prioritized over the other while that one becomes the cheerleader. They're both protagonist level, but only one can come out on top and that's silver because he can be marketed with Sonic and Shadow.
>>538339394You will never beat an autist's need to correct Sonic Team's mistakes
>>538339381Mobian is a noncanon term from Western spinoffs. It's a banned term, Sega removes mentions of it. Blobian is used as an alternative because they all have toeless blob feet.
>>538339140Knuckles is only Sonic's rival in the sense that he fought him once over a misunderstanding. Shadow is the only rival Sonic has and Shadow can hand Sonic's ass back to him. Knuckles can't.>>538339179Because it's still true?>>538339225Shut up Sparky>>538339354>t. seething kekles fag
>>538339381They're call Mobians in early western media, but that's not canon, so everyone jokingly calls them "Blobians" due to their blob feet. Before then everyone here called them "Sonic Worldians" because of the Two Worlds shit that was going on during the Meta Era.
>>538339039>Why do faggots insist on making Sonic vs Knuckles art still?because it's better than any alternative
>>538339893>Knuckles is only Sonic's rival in the sense that he fought him once over a misunderstanding.False. They fought SEVERAL times over a misunderstanding, and it's consistently said in Knuckles' character descriptions that he and Sonic don't get along.
>>538339893Rival doesn’t mean you have to fight all the time. Friendly rivals are a thing and that’s exactly what Knuckles is. They compete with each other and push each other in a healthy context
>>538339138Canonically described as friends nigger
>>538338251Sorry, Nazebros. Silver’s a male, a hedgehog, and of course Sonic Team is going to focus on him. You noticed those waves of Silver × Sage fanart, it proves Shiruba actually has the Motion. That’s what you get for forcing yourself in as Silver’s girlfriend back in 06. You Vill get the second-hand treatment. And you Vill like it
>>538340067>>538340095You're damn right, Knuckles!
Which sonic character would become unironically upset if someone said nigger
>>538340215The Hedgehog Trio will never be a thing.
>>538340291Amy and Boom Knux
>>538340291Silver
>>538338547I was expecting a long paragraph on how you would fuck his bussy but that's okay I can't write for shit too
>>538339893sonic isn't shadow's rival, he's more like a fly buzzing in his ear>b-butcope
>>538340067X isn't canon. Knuckles is too retarded and boring to compare to Shadow. Sonic 3 won btw>>538340095The Olympic games aren't canon fag
>>538340452>X isn't canon.I'm not talking about X.
>>538338251>>538338861I get what you're saying. Are you not happy with the 2 games she got for herself though? That's a lot more than most characters. I've personally never felt this way about a character I like not getting spotlight compared to another. I enjoy what I have and explore ideas based on what's all there. It's more fun than waiting around to see if they want to promote your favorite character or if some writer manages to pitch a good idea for a story.
>>538340452I’m not talking about the Olympics
>>538340291Amy
>>538339039>Aidsnadow sister seething
>>538340412Okay, if you want it to be sexual, I would lift him and do it in that motion, if you get what I mean
>>538340147But never shown. That's why none of you faggots can write for shit
amy tails knuckles and sonic has barely chemistry together but you are not ready for that talk
Pretending X has no validity is an underhanded westnigger tactic. Nitpicking characterization errors that no one else noticed doesn't change the fact that Sonic Team had actual control over it. Westniggers are trying to convince people their 90s Westshit shows are somehow equally as important as X.
>>538340215>SagelolYou'll get Iblis and Blaze again and people are going to drop his ass.
Knuckles fags be like>I NEED TO SEE BRIGHT COLORS TOGETHER TO BE ENTERTRAINED>BLACK IS TOO DULL AND BORING FOR MY ADHD BRAIN
>>538333517What are you...planning to do with that anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L12K7BGVXws
>>538340846>>I NEED TO SEE BRIGHT COLORS TOGETHER TO BE ENTERTRAINEDNiggers are notoriously low IQ and fascinated by bright colors
>>538340629Tell more about it
>>538340775I've been ready for that talk for YEARS nigga. Motherfuckers in this fanbase read character bios and take them to heart without ever examining the content of the games themselves. I'm sick of it.
>>538340901>song is shit lol
>>538340958They are easy to manhandle, basically onaholes
>>538336865What the....Latino fags.....I KNEEL!
>>538340979>Motherfuckers in this fanbase read character bios and take them to heart without ever examining the content of the games themselves.No, the games just have a bad habit of putting so much interesting concepts in the character bios that never show up in the games, yet Sonic Team keeps writing these profile stuff the exact same way while the games are consistently inconsistent with actually showing it properly.
>>538340846>>538340956saying this while obsessing over sonic every day is just....lol
>>538340775Leave my brothers out of this
>>538340775They have no relationships with each other, only with Sonic. All relationships are Sonic-Tails, Sonic-Knuckles and Sonic-Amy.Sega themselves have no clue on how to make content where their characters actually feel like people inside a world
>>538340979superstars alone struggled hard to make them compatible as a team of friends
>>538340775We've talked about this before several times that the core 4 revolves around Sonic>>538340215Weird how often this image is posted with shit takes deliberately trying make people mad at Silver or Silverfags>>538340508Many go through the same thing>They want more>The thing they like wasn't controversial or hated>So why won't Sega try? There must be a factor getting in the wayFans of characters and specific gameplay styles really love what got them into Sonic so it gets to them inside that something that should be getting more isn'tThere is never enough for a Sonic fan
Strange matter as a concept is absolutely terrifying.
>>538340336It already is since 06 established it. Going inactive doesn't mean its done for good. Amy is part of pic rel's set, but notice how they deliberately exclude her out of the main advertisement?>>538340508I am happy with those games. I still play them often on my old ds. It's just old desires from younger always thinking about what 3d versions of these games could be like and delusional thoughts of her getting a spinoff game like shadow did, but with how current sega is, its never going to happen an if any other character did get a spinoff besides shadow, it's going to be silver for the reasons I've mentioned. Maybe I'm just too pessimistic, but her future looks bleak to me. She can't stand as her own individual character anymore, shes always either going to be joined to Silver or Sonic when its not silver.
>>538341137Knuckles the treasure hunter has hunted exactly 1 treaure in canon in 2021
>>538341194They don't act like siblings. They never have.
What if Amy is so love interest coded that it's impossible to write actual Amy & Tails or Amy & Knuckles interactions without turning her into their girlfriend interest? And because Tails and Knuckles aren't as freedom-obsessed as Sonic, they'd likely be much more receptive to Amy's affection at least slightly, which would inherently undermine SonAmy? And thus, to maintain status quo, Amy can't interact with anyone too significantly because her being the very cutesy lovey-dovey type that hugs you and is extremely passionate about her affection means her displaying positive emotion and uplifting attitude towards literally anyone ever is just ship fuel.
>>538341334I'd love to see it in Sonic tho>>538340775Everyone knows this
>>538341434stop viewing everything through the lens of shipping you fucking faggot
>>538341097Make more, make a paragraph, make a greentext, make it hot, make it about your favourite silver
>>538341379What does "siblings" mean to you in this context?
>>538341160I never said I liked the bright pink foid either, disingenuous retardkun
>>538341448how would you even implement something like strange matter in Sonic?
>>538338254Just wait for the Tails guy to make another shitpost kek
>>538341379Just lying
>>538341529I'm busy drawing knuxriem today sorry, but I'll make something gay too later. I'm bad at describing, I can only draw
>>538341587...What does it mean to YOU???
>>538341367>06 establishedNo, 06 established a past/ present/ future motif that describes the hedgehogs but doesn't actually set them up as a trio. Sonic and Shadow aren't even a duo. Shadow is meant to be his own character. So is Silver. They're not actually a team nor do they have any coherent motifs outside of 06. Yes they have a dark/ neutral/ light thing going on but its to no effect. They aren't meaningfully a trio.
Saying Sontails is non-canon shit is one thing but Sonic and Tails definitely act like siblings. Play the game.
>>538341617That scene is extremely OOC in English. The Japanese version is good (it's the complete opposite)
>>538341890What if sontails is canon and they act like siblings
Sontails is canon though
>>538341379what young sibling makes you food this easy?he is his slave/malewife
we need Sonilver and Shadaze games
>>538341816That depends on various factors. Like, first of all, this is Sonic & Tails. Tails is the Little Brother Figure towards Sonic as the Sidekick, effectively "Robin", inspired by "Gohan". Which translates to: this is a Kid being 'raised' and trained and older mentor figure, which is Sonic. Their sibling dynamic is an older sibling having to be the parent watching over the younger sibling. Simply saying "they don't act like siblings" sounds more like projecting what you think typical siblings that grew up together under their parents would be like. But neither Sonic nor Tails has any parents in their lives, they are independent, with Sonic basically filling that role for Tails anyway. Overall, if Sonic & Knuckles' dynamic of hating each other and fighting all the time is what you're looking for, you shouldn't expect any of that from Sonic & Tails ever.
>>538341601You say that as if the stuff introduced in Frontiers wasn't out of left field already lol.
>>538342027How the fuck is it OOC
>>538341890>but Sonic and Tails definitely act like siblingsNo. No they don't.Siblings fight, Sonic and Tails do not.
Sontailsfags are leeches. They cozy up to other ships that aren't completely accepted and push those in hopes Sontails normalization will follow.
>>538342216Nigger did you fucking play Colors or Lost World? Or even just look up their cutscenes? Kill yourself.
>>538342178Sonic and Tails are humble, they also appreciate, respect and look up to one another. Look at the Japanese version to see how that interaction would actually go between Sonic and Tails when characterized correctly
>>538342216>he didn’t play Lost World
>>538342027Japanese just makes the scene a boring ass stale game of Sonic being nice to Tails
>>538342165>this is a Kid being 'raised' and trained and older mentor figure,trained BY an older mentor figure, I mean.>>538342216>Siblings fightNot all siblings fight. The idea that "sibling dynamic" should translate to "they fight and hate each other and do not ever get along ever" is stupid, and goes against the very concept of Tails AS THE LITTLE BROTHER ROLE.
>>538342315They don't fight in the Japanese version therefore its not canon
Silver will get iblis but instead it's going to be revealed that she's a sexy woman
Was this based?
>>538342315Tails doesn't behave like that in Japanese Colors. English Colors is OOC, Lost World is OOC, Pontaff writing is OOC>>538342339I don't care if you think it's boring, that's how their characterizations are and how their relationship is
>>538342315>Nigger did you fucking play Colors or Lost World?Not him, but you know DARN WELL that both of those games are just as bad as Forces when it comes to ruining Tails' character and his dynamic with Sonic.
>>538341832It doesn't matter, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't mean themes, only marketing because at the end of the day, thats all that sega really cares about. Selling them as a trio because they have very basic, but similar visual concepts is easy. Male. Hedgehog. Super form. It doesn't mean they will literally act like a trio team in games, it's just that Sonic and Shadow are already without a doubt the most popular characters in this franchise and their main pillars. The only characters besides them with enough "potential" to even get close to that in scale is either Silver/Blaze and if/when Sega ever decides they need that third character, it's going to be Silver. He will get shilled no matter how shit Ian or Evan writes him because purely on an aesthetic level, he works for what they want
>>538342423
>>538342437Dogfucking fetishist
>>538342345>Not all siblings fight.Yes they do. At some point siblings will bicker about something.
>>538342324Sonic is not humble. And Tails actively wants to prove that he’s useful to Sonic. There’s nothing wrong with that scene. >look at the Japanese-Shut up. You weeb faggots aren’t as important as you think you are
>>538342474And it's fucking boring, everyone agrees interactions between the Sonic cast are outrageously boring at this point and you want to die on that hill for what reason?
Shadria is the absolute fucking worst ship in this entire goddamn franchise, like who the hell thought romanticizing a terminally ill kid with her edgy hedgehog bodyguard was a good idea? It's straight-up creepy pedo bait disguised as "deep" lore, and it warps Maria's whole innocent vibe into some twisted fanfic nightmare where Shadow's just there to mope over forbidden love instead of, y'know, being the ultimate lifeform with actual depth.
>>538342529ok Krack
>>538342594He hates Ian so obsessively that it's not even about liking Sonic anymore.
>>538342546>Yes they do.No, they don't. Especially when it's an older/younger dynamic like Sonic & Tails, and especially when the younger sibling in-question has a rough past and deeply admires the older sibling.
>>538341832>>538342490And on top of that, we already see that in most instances for supplementary material he gets preferred over Blaze when it comes to choosing characters that aren't the main four then Shadow. Blaze existed before him, but overall Silver is just a better choice for marketing. She just loses to him not only because of association with him but also because his design mandates preferential treatment by default.
>>538339381Because they have blobs like our Lord Felix
>>538342585Everything about that scene is wrong. I don't say the Japanese original is superior because it's Japanese, I say it's superior because it respects the characters>>538342594>everyone agreesI don't. I like Sonic and Tails as they are
>>538342624I say this with the fullest sincerity: KYS.
>>538334540>thinking the windfags here know what they're talking about
>>538342731>No, they don't. Especially when it's an older/younger dynamic like Sonic & TailsYou've never had an older brother and it shows
>>538342863I AM an older brother.
>>538342802Sonic and Tails having playful banter is not bad or OOC
>>538342987Its so fucking ugly
>>538342995It's both. Sonic and Tails don't behave like that
>>538343076This is why Sonic doesn't sell in Japan
>>538343076Yes they do
>>538343054I think it's cute
>>538340775guys does sonic just suck? like in general as a series
>>538342987Need to Breed
>>538343174No it's okay we have a good racing game now
>>538343174Yes.This is the final pill a Sonic fan must swallow.
>Canon TailsTails is a young, humble, kind genius boy who likes machines. He used to get bullied because of his two tails, but seeing Sonic inspired him to see them as a strength. He is easily scared, however he is determined to be cool, so he tries his best even if he doesn't always succeed>Headcanon TailsWhen Tails was born, he was a gigachad and also literally Hitler. He owned an entire island which he bombed in order to genocide all birds. Unfortunately doing so gave him PTSD and turned him into a bullied baby, until he started following Sonic as his inspiration. This initially seemed to be good, and Tails was apparently healed of his mental illness, but because of bad writing, Tails relapsed into his bad old habits. Tails learned that Sonic is an asshole who wants all the attention and will never allow him to shine, and so Tails started to act arrogant towards Sonic. With his PTSD now worse than ever, Tails finally accepted that Sonic is the problem, and decided to leave him to have offscreen adventures alone, with the goal of becoming a completely different and unrecognizable person by the time he appears in another game
>Do I like this character's design and/or powers?>If yes: I will make up my own headcanon version of them and get mad when the canon version of them doesn't match the version I made up>If no: This character sucks and I will fly into an autistic rage at the slightest sight or mention of themSonic fanbase in a nutshell
Tails is a victim of bullying that caused him to develop very bad self-esteem issues, to the point that he latched onto Sonic, follows him around, and wants to be like him. Sonic himself is the coolest guy ever, whose generally cool with everyone, only really acting snarky or whatever to rivals or enemies, and is very encouraging and uplifting towards anyone who needs it. How do you expect Sonic & Tails' dynamic to be, when this is the context? Sonic can't come at Tails with the kind of energy he brings to Knuckles, because Tails isn't gonna fight back, he's gonna internalize it and feel bad about himself. And Tails himself is inherently kind and soft and gentle by nature, so he's not gonna come at anyone with that kind of energy at all unless it's someone he legitimately has some sort of deep anger for or someone that's a legitimate villain or whatever, even if he has a healthier self-esteem and more confidence.Expecting Sonic & Tails to just bicker and fight for no reason is expecting Sonic & Tails to be severely out of character.
>>538342624Japanese romance almost always feels incestual or pedophilic.
Tails is a chad.
>>538341367I think one of the main issues is that if you want to have a plot driven game for Blaze and Marine in Sol, there needs to be an antognist there or something that will make/force another character from the main world to travel there too. Basically another Rush Adventure. It's very rare to see a franchise with a large cast have their own character specific spinoff titles unless the character is insanely popular. This is a problem most characters in the cast face outside of being included in Heroes-sized plots or tag along adventures. In this case, it's really more of a "Shadow is Sega's son" thing rather than "my character doesn't get enough attention." Other characters can stand on their own but they need to have a greater role in Sonic's adventures first.
>>538342624>>538343575How much you wanna bet these opinions would shift if Shadow was a girl
>>538343386true
Why did they stop attempting to translate the games as close as possible for an english audience after Unleashes / SATBK?Did the poor reception cause them to conclude that they needed new english writers and not make an 06 disaster again?
BLUE FEET?!
Why does it feel like the Metal Virus arc was the only arc they really had in mind for IDW?The Metal Sonic thing came and wentThe Starline thing was built up and ended up being a wet fish since Sonic and Eggman took care of him pretty easilyThe Extreme Race thing also just came and went with the only real issue being the destruction of the Restoration HQ and uh...yeahThe Mimic shit is over with Now they're building up some "oh no someone is stealing the emeralds!" But like they also shot themselves in the foot by saying the comic will time jump to after Frontiers after 84 so...why should I get invested in an "arc" that's ending in 3 months?Literally the Metal Virus was the only arc that felt like the comic has a story to tell and had some ramifications and even a threat of urgency for our characters.
>>538343580>creamso close man , just another delusional self inserter
>>538343751They got western writers to write "adapted" scripts full of OOC garbage, unfunny jokes, and now "references" because that was the new direction of the series after the hate the serious games of the 2000s received.
shadria is canon. cope, seethe, rope
>>538343573In a rare circumstance where they'd fall in love with the same girl (very OOC for both of them), Tails wouldn't fight Sonic over her, and Sonic wouldn't break Tails's heart over a girl.
>>538343772The comic is being currently written by writers who plan their own 3 issue stories and then the next writer picks it up and keeps writing whatever they feel like then rinse repeat
AAAAAAAA NOOOOOOOO NOT THE ANIME HEDGEHOG NOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>538342437
How would Sonic be different if it was made and directed by Sakurai?
>>538343573T H I S
>Amy>Sally>Bunnie>Tiara>Blaze>Breezie>Fiona>Honey>Roxy Raccoon>Ms Possum>Merna>Mina>Perci>Lah>Tangle>Surge>Lumina>Madonna>Elise>Shahra>Sara>Merlina>Shuka from Chain Chronicle>Hatsune Miku>Various unnamed human women
>>538342585Sonic is humble.
>>538343946In a rare circumstance where they both fell in love with the same girl, Tails is the one where a relationship would actually realistically form because Sonic is SONIC and he's gonna run off to the next adventure without a second thought no matter what feelings he has for the girl.
>>538343946So, bros before hoes?
>>538330926Well be that as it may, my roommate just so happened to have a spare monitor, so I can still do something until I turn in my laptop for repairs.
>>538344227And Omega, apparently.
>>538344008Huh.That...sounds like a really bad idea that's going to have issues down the line Well we already saw how after they killed Mimic without telling Gigi
>>538342529ok duofag
>>538344050Sakurai's design philosophy is so fundamentally different from most of Sonic's creators that it's impossible to guess.
>>538342624Cry Rougefag lmao
>>538343573You described their initial characterizations, as in what they had in the very first games. Expecting them to stay exactly that way forever isn’t feasible or even healthy unless you want them to be stale. Tails just being a yes man to Sonic because he admires him and Sonic never pushing Tails to be better is not feasible or even healthy if you want them to grow. No character development = stale bread = dying franchise
>>538344536They have the same age gap as Sonamy tho?
>>538342624Don't careMaria is sex
>>538344050sonic suffers from too many cooks trying to make a different pasta dish so it'd be more consistent for one
/v/fags are laughing at us again
>>538344235Yeah and Mario talks a lot
>>538344012Lovely couple
>>538342624Kill yourself violently and slowly
>>538344541It's hopeless, every characterfag in this franchise acts like this. Knucklesfags want him chained to a pointless Master Emerald forever never doing anything fun ever again, Shadowfags want him to sulk over Maria forever and ever, etc. People only see the characters for the concepts they are never what stories they could try to tell with them
>usgo back
>>538344541Sonic has always pushed Tails to be "better". And yes, their personality SHOULD stay the same. That is who the characters are to their core. You don't change that. Sonic characters are also supposed to be static, this series was never meant to have "character development". No, Tails did not have Ian Flynn Frontiers style character development in the Adventure games, that is simply Tails, exactly as he was designed, reacting to the situations he gets involved in
(You) with who?
>>538344541Sonic himself is already a static character anyway. He doesn't change. Tails DOES, but being more confident and independent does not change his inherently kind and gentle personality. >Tails just being a yes man to Sonic because he admires him and Sonic never pushing Tails to be betterTails isn't just a "yes man" in the first place, and Sonic has always pushed Tails to be better. He does that by encouraging him, not by being a bully.
>>538343573>Expecting Sonic & Tails to just bicker and fight for no reason is expecting Sonic & Tails to be severely out of character.Is the OVA out of character? A lot of early material had them be pretty snotty with each other. There's even glimpses of that in Adventure IIRC.
>>538342624Eat broken glass faggot
>>538344853You’ve never had a brother or even good friends if you think Sonic ever “bullied” Tails (outside of Archie, but fuck Archie)
>>538344837mobian bf except im holding him
Reminder that the writer of sa2 called sa2 the story of Shadria.
>>538342624I hope you get your throat slashed you crying snowflake. You're a blight on this world
I'm going to sleep I'm sorry for all the gay shit posting. Night night
I don't even know who you are...
>>538344784We like the characters as they are. We don't need them to change into something they were never meant to be. If you want something else go enjoy another character, not our favorites
>>538344894>Is the OVA out of character?They never bickered or fought in the OVA. And I'd know, because I was watching the OVA this morning. And I wouldn't call pic-related an example of bickering or fighting at all, either.
>>538344782>>538344913>>538345104Based
>>538345178Good. Because I can't say the same of you.
>>538345103
>>538345243Colors was way tamer than this, you can’t possibly think THAT was bickering
>>538345203This. People want knuckles to ditch the m.e. and shadow to move on from maria should gtfo and stop talking about the chars if they dont like them.
Kit is cute
>>538345243They are LITERALLY bickering in that pic. You just defeated your own argument.
>>538345120cute
>>538345203Characters don't have to substantially change, they can earn new traits, they can go through new experiences and meet new people which is the bare basic that happens in any story but I'm not surprised you fail to grasp what even constitutes a story
>>538344541Why do you have a problem with static characters?
>>538342624Virtue signaling faggots like you deserve to be skinned alive
>>538345451Anon, most Sonic fans are autistic. If you change the characters in ANY WAY they will become unrecognizable to a large portion of the fanbase. I think the folks in this thread are legitimately exhibit A for this.
YEAR OF SILVER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjZ2MrVA-YE
>>538345203Characters staying the same and never changing is bad if you want to actually tell stories
>>538345120Never be sorry for who you areAnd goodnight...SLEEP TIGHT.
>>538342624>Shadria is the absolute fucking worst ship in this entire goddamn franchise, like who the hell thought romanticizing a terminally ill kid with her edgy hedgehog bodyguard was a good idea? It's straight-up creepy pedo bait disguised as "deep" lore, and it warps Maria's whole innocent vibe into some twisted fanfic nightmare where Shadow's just there to mope over forbidden love instead of, y'know, being the ultimate lifeform with actual depth.Posted on opposite day btw.
>>538345637How long will this hypetrain continue, bros? Another day? Week?
krack this shit is pathetic get laid so you can move on from sonic already , bet there are cobwebs down there
>>538345451No, you are arguing that these characters should be changed to the core. Tails is humble and easily scared, you want him to be arrogant and overconfident, and then pretend that's "character development">>538345653The best stories in this series never had to do any of that garbage from the English version of Frontiers
>>538342624found the shatamy fag
>>538345781You’re pulling shit out of your ass. I never said you needed to do what Frontiers does
>>538345323Colors changed how both characters behave to force a dynamic that doesn't exist with who they're supposed to be, and then Lost World builds on by taking it even farther in the OOC direction. The OVA is perfectly in character. In that specific situation, Tails is worried about the old man and wants to help him. Sonic doesn't take the situation seriously, and he doesn't wanna be bothered, so he tells Tails to do it. Tails is upset at Sonic for this inaction or whatever, and then resolves to just do it himself. The moment that Tails and the Old Man are actually in serious danger, Sonic immediately jumps into action and saves both without a second thought. Sonic doesn't care about being a hero, and he only does what he feels like doing in the moment. Tails is a very kind hearted kid who'd worry about wanting to do as much as he can for everyone, because he's a very supportive and loyal type of friend and child. Tails sees the old man having trouble with his vehicle and thinks he should help him. Sonic sees that it's not at all serious, so he doesn't even bother. This led to a minor disagreement, which lasted a second long and was basically just Tails: Sonic help himSonic: You do itTails: Okay ( >:( )And that was it. Every other interaction between Sonic & Tails is just Tails following Sonic as always, offering advice or suggestions every now and then, being the voice of reason against Sonic's rebellious attitude, and copying Sonic's movements and stuff.
>>538342624found the shatouge fag
>>538342624Ask me how I know you cut your dick off
>elise kiss sonic >maria only "muh intentions!"YUP YUP they are brothers and not in a lovers way
>>538345756t. lettuce
>>538345887You said Tails should stop being who he is and tried to pass off the OOC trash in Colors as character development. That's exactly what English Frontiers does to Tails, Knuckles and Amy. These are supposed to be static characters, and characters aren't supposed to change to their core in general
People who actually play the games tend to like Shadria. Hating on it is a sign you never really cared about Sonic
>>538342624>everything I don't like is pedophiliaWhy are zoomshits like this?
>>538342624holy shit Krack went suicidal after you posted this lmaoNice one
>>538343772Because the Metal Virus was arc was originally supposed to be a Reboot Archie plot.
>>538346171it's the latest fada weapon to intimidate other people or risk destroying careers
>>538342624Shadow loves Maria. Maria loves Shadow. This is canon. Cope and rope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L12K7BGVXwsSega Should have have Miku sing the Sonic Racing Crossworld OP
>>538346172i'm a tranny btw, forgot to mention that lmao
Uh oh shadriafag (krack) melty.
>>538346070Colors and Frontiers are not the same at all. Frontiers is basically apologizing for how OOC previous games like Forces had Tails (which while not what I would have done isn’t exactly wrong per se). Colors just has Sonic and Tails acting like siblings would once they get a little older, and since we had clearly moved past the “classic” era by that point, is completely understandable and fine
>>538342624Holy shit you destroyed her
At least it's not Jehtt
why do u guys take bait so easily lol
>>538342624boo hoo faggot
>>538346451oh and you also destroyed my dick leaving an axe wound
>>538345897All Colors did was have them act more like real siblings would act. Playfully competitive banter does not go against either character
Some of you guys seethe about specific things that make it obvious which Sonic games you didn't play
>>538346580>trannies out of nowhereHoly shit she’s actually mad
>>538346664I didn't play coolors and rush, diagnosis?
>>538342624How is it pedophilia you mindbroken faggot? Explain.
>>538346660If Colors was in-character, the Japanese script wouldn't have had to change it so much. Sonic & Tails aren't the type to banter like that with each other.
>>538346558Cool!
>>538342624Shatouge isn't and never will be canon btw
>>538342624> instead of, y'know, being the ultimate lifeform with actual depth.>Implying "I'M LE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM" , "I'M LE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM" , "I'M LE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM" has depthAnother fake Shadow fan, it doesn't have to be shadria, but Maria herself with shadow's actions on the ark is the eternal depth to shadow's character.
>>538346756They’re meant to be like brothers, and brothers banter. Your autism is showing very brightly
I think Shadria is good
What is the angle of Shadow's character now that he has no identity issues? His identity issues and searching for purpose were the point of his character up till now. He beat up Black Doom trying to control him and freeing himself again while All Hail Shadow played and tearfully said goodbye to Maria. Where does he go from here? Just "muh ria"? Didn't Iizuka say he wanted Shadow to move on? I know Iizuka wrote Shad05 which had him declare he was moving on so I'm curious wtf he's going to do now.
Every time someone says uh oh melty, i imagine junko from danganronpa saying it. She has that good middle ground of grating valley girl stacy voice that i can also imagine her saying something “eugh what a fucking creep” “total loser”
>>538346954Whatever the investors think will sell
>>538346445I didn't say Colors and Frontiers did the same thing. What you do when talking about Colors is the same thing Frontiers does. You take OOC behavior and write some fanfic nonsense to justify it>Colors just has Sonic and Tails acting like siblings would once they get a little olderNo, Sonic and Tails would never act like that.>is completely understandable and fineIt's completely OOC garbage that doesn't fit the characters and was written by new writers who were just brought in and who admitted to knowing nothing about the characters at the time. The original Japanese version of the script had them behave in character, which is the LITERAL COMPLETE EXACT OPPOSITE of the garbage OOC English version.>Frontiers is basically apologizing for how OOCI know you perceive it like that because you didn't pay attention, but that's not what happens at all. Ian's technique was to acknowledge Forces and justify it as part of a character development arc that never existed, it says everything up to that point was in-character, has the characters point it out as a flaw, and then resolves it by having Tails decide to go on an adventure, so that he can be unrecognizable by the next time he appears (which itself is a way to justify later OOC behavior). Once again this problem doesn't exist in Japanese, where this OOC garbage and nonsense about character development is deleted
>>538346917>They’re meant to be like brothers, and brothers banter.It's a big brother and a literal brother. A 15 year old and an 8 year old. An 8 year old whose defined by idolizing the older brother figure. Sonic & Tails are like Kamina and Simon from Gurren Lagann, and I don't recall much "banter" between them at all.
>>538342624>another faggot who thinks shadria isn't integral to shadow's characterfuck off normie
Shadow spreading his seed
Early Uekawa art looks ugly. I prefer his post Adventure stuff
Reminder that Krack is a porfag that won't be able to play Crossworlds because her "laptop" is in the "repair shop"
>Krack right now
Never forget that the general was totally free of shadria for the days krack had her melty and was banned on the bird app
Uh oh is it a namefag time?
>>538347040So just "stuff"? Like beat up Infinite? But Sonic does stuff and spreads his philosophy. Is Shadow just a cop now?
>>538347153So krack doesn't play the games? Gotcha, I won't care about her opinion now.
>>538346954In SxSG, Prof. Gerald implied that even when Black Doom is destroyed he can be reborn through one of his own Black Arms minions, including Shadow.
>>538342624Maria won
Can you people PLEASE stop posting About me and Shadow's love lives? Especially regarding me and my mother. It's getting real creepy to the point Mom suggested getting Dad a new sword incase any of you freaks try to break in. I do like the cute art of me though.
>>538347153 (me)Poorfag*
>>538347224I was also here, just not posting about Shadria, since it's not a funny ship>>538347259>shadow profiling against black creatures
>>538347082You can’t have Tails still actually act like an 8 year old and also have him be a 300 IQ tech genius, that will not fly
>>538342624>it warps Maria's whole innocent vibe into some twisted fanfic nightmare where Shadow's just there to mope over forbidden love instead of, y'know, being the ultimate lifeform with actual depth.She’s focusing on the pedobait angle, but i think this is what actually struck a nerve cause it’s true
I love Tails as he is. I don't need him to have "character development" that completely changes his personality or relationship with Sonic
>>538347361Except you can? Have you ever heard of kid geniuses?
>>538347361Don't be stupid. "Child Prodigy" is literally a trope. "Boy Genius". The whole idea is that he's a young, immature child that's smarter than Einstein at the same time. He can build a giant robot, calculate quantum physics, yet he still thinks and acts like an eight year old child when advanced science and math AREN'T the focal point.
>>538347394I didn't like or get the appeal of Shadow until I learned the reason he's edgy is because the girl he loved (platonic or not) was shot. That's more interesting than the average Sonic character. Except, that's the only story they've ever been able to tell with him. Attempts to do something new keep flopping
>>538347361Yes Tails the 8 year old genius boy will indeed fly
>>538344536I freak out at both of these, retard. Stop strawmaning.
>>538347394Shadow's relationship with Maria is what gives him depth you retarded ship faggot. Shadria is wholesome and pure. Only a mindbroken tranny like you could look at a girl and boy in love and jump to thinking it's a fetish. Go back.
>>538347153>>538347180>>538347224Dude it isn't me sperging. I don't act like that.
>>538347613thiswithout Maria, Shadow's a Vegeta retard like in IDW
>>538347394>It's trueIt's not samefag. shadow spamming about being the ultimate lifeform is a title, not depth, holy shit. Maria makes you seethe from just existing.
>>538347070That’s a lot of bullshit words just to say “nuh uh you’re just wrong”
I like Archie but acknowledge that it committed numerous crimes against character design.
>>538347613Krack seething post lmao
>>538347623We know but it's funnier like that
Stop being boring
>>538347613Hi Krack. Post tits please.
Hasn't the whole "only cold and aloof because the girl I loved died" thing been done before? Maybe that's why I don't feel that much for Shadow as a character.
there's more than one Shadriafag here, tranny freak
>>538342624Imagine being too sensitive to stomach the canonical content of Sonic the Hedgehog of all fucking things. You're one pathetic faggot
>>538347682I didn't say that at all. Are we having an actual conversation here or are you just posting nonsense? The characters in this series are static. They are not supposed to be changed, and you can tell stories without changing them. There is nothing wrong with any of this
>>538347514>Attempts to do something new keep floppingI think it’s a matter of circumstances rather than the character. Sonic’s shitty friends fiasco killed most characters from doing anything. And besides that this was the era sega rushed development on most of their games plus classicfags getting louder lead to a lot of dissent. Trying again now in this era doesn’t seem like a bad idea
This is the same fag who admitted to larping as namefags to start shit, isn't it? Shadria is cute and doesn't need your forced drama.
>>538347613Hi Krack there is something big I would like you to comment on as a shadow expert.
>>538347841You tell them, sister!May I have a crumb of pussy now?
>>538347887Are any Sonic games NOT rushed?
>>538347841And they all just happen to share the same writing style, insults and political alignment as krack. huh what a coincidence
>>538347948maybe in your schizo delusions, keep being rent free about krack
>>538347882>The characters in this series are static. They are not supposed to be changed, and you can tell stories without changing them. There is nothing wrong with any of thisThis is literally your opinion, and quite frankly a bad one if you don’t want the series to get stale
>>538347941Frontiers.
>>538342812>>538344536>>538344782>>538344913>>538345104>>538345610>>538345814>>538345978>>538346004This? all him
>>538347928>begging for pussyloser moid kys
>>538348035Frontiers was the definition of rushed slop
>>538347403He's so freaking cute
>>538347840Shadow was aloof before Maria died. Shadow is a freak of nature, a living weapon, and Maria showered him with love and shit.
>>538347907I think everyone is in on the joke, the threads are just too boring lately. >>538347979Mania isn't THAT good imo
Shadriafags (it's krack astroturfing) is just as bad as the tailspedo spammers.
>>538342624Shadria is innocent and wholesome. There's nothing pedo bait about a tragic love story.
>>538347727>We Some of you believe it.
Shadriafags please date me
>Shadouge seethe about Shadria againShadow will NEVER love rouge btw.
>>538347941I meant as in that was the era where we didn’t wait 4 to 5 years for our mainline slop and they came every 2 to 3 years instead. Sometimes less and it went as poorly as expected
>>538348124>Maria showered him in shit>>538348165I don't bother convincing or debunking anyone here of anything, there's no point if we're anonymous, nothing will ever come of sthg
>>538348084Actually Frontiers wasn't "rushed" it's just that Sonic Team had difficulty figuring out what they wanted to do and had to restart development at some point. That and the pandemic fucked them over as well
lol if it's Shadow coming onto Maria, it's pedobaitif it's Maria coming onto Shadow, it's still pedobaitlol lmaotwo-way pedobait
Shadriachads mindbroke antiShadriasissies into violently falseflagging. And yet Shadria is still canon, it was all for naught. Sad!
>>538348204Are you a 3'3 black and red hedgehog?
>>538348292Maria is dead.
>>538348345and yet Shadow still loves her!
>>538348328Best IDW designs. They really look like game characters
>>538348328Kit is so cute, I wish he wasn’t excluded from every conversation including Surge
Shadria is canon.
>>538348395He loves her as his family.
>>538348302Why can't men be short and covered in fur, if they don't change something they'll never be able to compete
>>538348018The only time they had some serious character development that went beyond the character's initial concept was Shadow 2005, which was a game specifically trying to distance itself from Sonic to start a series based on Shadow, who himself had more of a focus on character development in his basic profile compared to anything else in the series before or afterAnd that is still nothing compared to the idea of "character development" that characters should fully abandon their core like >>538344784 suggested. That's not character development, that's just taking a character and replacing it with someone else. OOC writing coupled with some bad excuses to justify the OOC writing
The fact that sthg defends this proves they do not understand Shadow.
>>538348468Ohnononono.....pffhahahahahaha
>>538348649>not barefootFake.
We trifecta hour?
>>538348568How is this different than when Shadow attacked Cosmo?
>>538348649She makes him feel special, but you wouldn't know because your family probably hates you for being a Shitdow sperg.
>>538348117He is the perfect character
>1%>3% loaded >43% loaded>78% loaded bot response>100% loaded tailspedo avatarfagging bot tier response to avoid any accountabilityWe're just posting (Shadaria) in a (Sonic) thread, why are people seething?
>>538348790Even if that's true, he wouldn't blush to Dr. Gerald. It's because she's a cute girl
>>538348738Shadria is the only canon hedgehog ship
>>538348524You act like when I say I don’t want the characters to remain the same you think I want them to drastically change. I don’t. I just want them to be able to do interesting believable things like *banter like brothers would because their bond is brotherlike* without spergs like you screeching “OOC!!!!!!” like you’ve been shot and your life depends on keeping characters the exact same to a very autistic degree.
>>538342987Don't care
>>538348876quit shilling your own post faggot
>>538348929>*banter like brothers would because their bond is brotherlike*Banter is not what Sonic & Tails are like with each other. That's the Sonic & KNUCKLES dynamic of being friendly rivals. "Sibling" does not mean "rival".
>>538348649
>>538348790My family loves me :)Maria loves Shadow in a special way ;)
>>538349041Siblings have friendly competition all the time. You clearly don’t have one
>>538348874Stretch
>>538348929Sonic and Tails' relationship isn't whatever "brotherlike" stereotype you're trying to fit it into. Sonic and Tails have their own personalities and history. We know how they behave, we know how they treat each other, and we know that's not that. There is nothing believable about that interaction, because they do not behave like that. The original Japanese version, pre-localization, has them behave as one would expect based on the previous games, which is the complete opposite of that. The writers who wrote that scene in English were brought in last minute and literally admitted to knowing nothing about the characters when they wrote it
"sibling" is a useless descriptor and I'm tired of hearing it
People who don't have real siblings seriously need to shut the fuck up about "sibling dynamics" in this franchise, because they never know what the hell they're talking about.
>>538348876Ok Nicole we get you want to peg Mina
>>538349097I have three siblings and several friends that are as close as siblings. I myself am just not the kind of person to engage with that kind of thing, because I'd rather be nice to everyone and support everyone and say good things about everyone. And any sort of "banter" towards me just makes me feel bad and I'll internalize and hate myself and believe that everyone hates me for some reason.
"Sibling dynamic" isn't veen a real issue with someone who isn't your sibling
>>538349203It's used for nothing except concern trolling to make people stop shipping two characters who are extremely close.
>>538348876TRUTH NVKE
Krack can you please stop astroturfing about your shitty ship, nobody cares as much as you enough to start derailing the thread with insults, trannyposting and shitting on other ships uncalled.
>>538349458Please kill me, ekidona-sama
Can I get an informative list on sthg's other shadriafags and the extent they post shadria
>>538349290This. Imagine telling a real couple that they can't date because they used to be such close friends they were "like siblings". You'd be laughed out of the room.
>>538347317Tails, you're not old enough to post on here.
>>538340901>Shadow Miku crossoverSICCKKK
I really wish you would make your samefagging less obvious
>>538349549I don't post it but I like itThere's at least one other person
>>538349538
>>538349528That's not me. I shouldn't have to keep saying this. Me posting or defending a ship, one that's officially endorsed mind you, is not a crime.
>>538349289Not saying there’s anything wrong with that, but that’s not how most siblings act with each other
>>538349698>me when I lieOnly a newfag would believe you
How do you get horny from a 3 foot blobian?
>>538349097I have a sibling, he is correct and you are wrong.
>>538349681Context? What did she do?>>538349736Japanese furries are actually attractive
>Rouge>Honey>Cream>Bunnie>Sage>Mina>Sonic>Barby>Zooey>Vanilla>Blaze>Morain>Li Moon>Belle>Sticks>Ariem>Cosmo>Nicole>Maddie>Wave>Fiona>Carrotia>Perci>Marine>Alicia (Anti-Sally)>Tangle>Sara>Maria>Rosemary>Sally>Various human womenAll of them fox'd. How does he do it?
>>538349615This >>538349203 was me. I don't care about Shadria. I'm just sick of everyone in the core 4 being "siblings".
>>538349730Uh huh. Yeah I'm still waiting for proof, buddy. Come back with the evidence, doesn't hold up in court otherwise.
>>538349815>RosemaryWait...
>>538349717Sonic and Tails also do not act like "most siblings", which is the entire point (they aren't even literally siblings by the way, they're not related nor do they live in the context of an adoptive family, they are close friends).
Sontails is wrong because it's gay.
sthg right now
>>538349827>I'm just sick of everyone in the core 4 being "siblings".You’re extrapolating what I’m >>538349097 saying. I’m only saying this for Sonic and Tails
>>538349717Either way, Sonic & Tails aren't most siblings. Like, any time I hear any of my friends talk to or about their siblings, it always sounds like they hate them and can't stand them at all, like seriously. But I can't imagine ever having that kind of attitude towards my own siblings, because I have lots of happy memories of just hanging out with them like I have with my friends. Most "sibling rivalry" dynamics seem to be born from two people who don't like each other being forced to live together under the same roof. That isn't Sonic & Tails, because they do like being around each other and have very positive perceptions of each other that they aren't shy about expressing.
>>538329724>>538330489Kill yourself.
>>538343940The scripts aren't "adapted", they're written in English first.
Sonic moments like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujC7rxFVZ18
>>538350139S3K and SA3
>No Shadriafag listI knew it.
>>538349973"friendly competition" is literally Sonic & KNUCKLES dynamic. NOT Sonic & Tails. It seems like you idea on what "siblings" should act like is just Sonic & Knuckles. Like any genuine bond has to buried under layers of competition and bantering and getting on each other's nerves and annoying each other to no end.
Basil/The Conductorhttps://files.catbox.moe/o0alnp.jpeg
>>538349973Pretty sure someone else said Sonic and Knuckles ITT. I've seen people say Tails and Amy and Knuckles and Amy offsite.
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>>538348876>refuse to believe alternative interpretationsarchiennigers?IDW biggest selling point was that it was close to the games you fucking freak
>>538350030FALSE. First off you are confusing the story with the script. The story is ALWAYS written in Japan, with them rarely taking advice from western contributors (example: Ian suggesting to connect the Ancients to Chaos). Second, the script. There are only two instances in which the script was written in English first: Lost World and Frontiers. When Colors was written it was fully Japanese until Pontac and Graff were brought in late in development, and they adapted/heavily rewrote the script to English. The Japanese version of the script is still the final that gets Sonic Team's ultimate approval.
>>538350139Is that fucking JP Cell I hear?
>>538350246The issue is:
>>538350216And why is Sonic and Tails having ONE tiny example of it such a horrible thing? Answer: it’s not
>>538350216Sonic and Shadow are better rivals than Sonic and Knuckles cucklestard.
>>538350246that looks referenced not tracedthat said, referencing AI is wack
>>538350475>>538350475>>538350475
>>538350418>And why is Sonic and Tails having ONE tiny example of it such a horrible thing?What part of "out of character" do you not understand? >>538350461Shadow is not a friendly rival.
>No Tailsfag listI knew it.
its weird how IDWfags will insist its in character. When you point out the stark differences from the games, they will say "Uh, it's a different interpretation"
>>538350246What a fucking loser tracefag, no wonder why she loves zoophilia.
>>538350008You have this weird headcanon that any competition at all is somehow unhealthy or mean-spirited. I promise it’s not. It many cases it’s actually a good thing, it provides a catalyst for self-improvement and self esteem even, things that are paramount for someone like Tails
>>538338850>>538339716Reminder that the IDW writers had every opportunity to expand on the Sol Dimension:https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxeAlOkokO1tmQ00A4LomSTH_maYXAX4NW?si=__j81JZzRYhm0M49>Q:Are there many mandates on using the Sol Dimension? It’s a bit disappointing to me how there doesn’t seem to be much interest in expanding on itIan: No. If anything, they were surprisingly receptive. Like when we showed Blaze's palace. That had never been established before and we asked specifically "Is there any unused concept or is there anything that we can do to be in line with the concept?" They didn't have art specifically but they did have design notes and technology levels and general themes to follow and so we designed it off of that. As far as I know that's kind of the working concept for it now? Maybe? The thing with the Sol Dimension is that it's just really hard to get to. You can only get there via the sol emeralds and those are only held by Blaze so to bring anyone there you have to have a bit of a circumstance. Blaze has to Ferry people over. There's Sonic Rush Adventure where it was vague how it happened, but I think ultimately it's kind of implied that the emeralds worked together, maybe?Kyle: The warp topaz blasted Sonic into Sol Dimension.Ian: With a supercharge. It wasn't just the warp topaz. It was warped topaz with Super Sonic charge to it. It's the same issue with Angel Island, multiplied by 10. Angel Island is hard to get to but at least it's on the same planet in the same dimension. Blaze's world is a lot harder to get to, and that's unfortunate because oh man, a whole other world to explore and expand and...build upon.Kyle: Get Knuckles off that rock and Blaze out of that stupid dimension.Ian: Watch, the island's gonna get beamed over to the Sol.
>>538350519It’s not out of character, it’s just something they hadn’t done before. That’s not the same thing
>>538349815>All of them fox'd. How does he do it?He doesn't, self inserter.>RougeShe just teases him, tricking for information>HoneyTeasing for fashion for others>CreamFriends>BunnieBig Sister to him, only loves Antoine>MinaIn an AU 30 years from then.>SonicOnly sees him as a brother.>BarbyShe prefers two inch platypus dong over 1 inch micro fox dick>ZooeyProbably.>VanillaFucks with vector>BlazeFriend, and she likes hedgehogs>Li MoonI guess, but they barely know eachother>BelleFriends>SticksOnly loves herself>AriemOnly loves Knuckles cock>CosmoYes, but is in question since it may have all been love potions by Amy meant for Sonic.>MaddieMom>WaveRivals>FionaShe cucked Tails hard multiple times for Sonic and Scourge>CarrotiaEnemies>PerciStrong maybe>MarineFriends>Alicia (Anti-Sally)Enemies>TangleFriends>SaraShes riding sonic's dick>MariaNope only with Shadow. Also dead and she doesn't know him.>RosemaryHis Mother, you reaching faggot.>SallyAnother big sister/auntYou get around 3 and they aren't even canon.
>>538350304 (Me)>First off you are confusing the story with the script.I retract this statement, I misread the post. Everything else I said is accurate.>>538350761It's out of character. Some of Tails' core defining traits are that he is kind and humble, he is not kind and humble in that OOC interaction. The Japanese original is IC
Krack, why are you still here and so angry? go spend time with your family.
>>538350976Autism
>>538350983He’s simply exapliming his own achievement when prompted, there’s nothing unkind or unhumble about it, you’re just an autist who can’t handle any naunce
>>538350976based
>>538351434That's not what happens. First off, they made Sonic downplay Tails' achievements, which is OOC for Sonic, so Tails should never find himself in this situation. Then Tails starts listing what he did, which he wouldn't do in that context, and then calls Sonic an idiot. It's some of the most OOC writing the series has ever had.The people who wrote that interaction literally outright said that they didn't know who the characters are and just wrote whatever. It is not a coincidence that the IC Japanese original is completely different: it's because the English version is OOC
Tails, Wind and Shadowfags are the current issue with this general. get rid of them and it becomes a lot nicer
>>538351797Sonic was OOC there yes, but Tails didn’t call him an idiot and him defending himself is not OOC
>>538352463>but Tails didn’t call him an idiotHe did. He said that without him Sonic would be running around like an idiot>defending himself is not OOCTails would defend himself, but not in that way. And in this case specifically the IC response would be to be confused as to why Sonic is behaving like this, Tails wouldn't be concerned with defending himself, he would more likely be sad that Sonic is being mean to him and especially over something Sonic should know is extremely important to him. The entire thing is awfully OOC at every step and it happened because it was written by people who didn't know nor care who the characters are and wrote them as their generic "siblings" stereotype because that's something they read about them when they glanced at their character descriptions
>>538352463You know I don't like when this type of conversation goes like this because you too seem to be passionate about this, you enjoy that scene and you're attached to it. I understand if it's important to you for whatever reason. You brought it up yourself after all. Usually I'm the one bringing it up to criticize it, while I do like it in the Japanese version because it is closer to how I understand the characters to be and how they behaved in previous games in other scenes that are important to me. I dislike the scene, but I don't hate you for liking it. If it legitimately brought you joy that's something I can (indirectly) appreciate about it. I apologize if I made you feel bad. Enjoy what you like
>>538341736>knuxriemFinally a canon knuckles ship.
>>538353953I don’t even cherish that scene like you seem to think, I just like seeing characters show interesting nuance which I think that scene did. If Sonic and Tails (or anyone really) acted exactly the same in every single outing and never deviated I would find that extremely boring. It’s not always done in a good way, I even acknowledged how Sonic was OOC there, but I appreciate the attempt
>>538329724sauce me your pic, senpai.
>>538354305>I don’t even cherish that scene like you seem to thinkAlright then. I was just saying that because there are many random scenes that are important to me and I would have felt bad for ruining it if it was like that for youWell then the problem is that I don't think there's any nuance at all. It's just a stereotypical "siblings" interaction
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>>538354709But…you spent this whole time saying that they aren’t meant to be “stereotypical” siblings. There’s nuance with respect to how you think they are. That’s where the intrigue comes in. I can appreciate Tails and Sonic being 100% supportive of each other, but if that’s all they ever are it would get old. Having them playfully banter makes them feel more like actual people rather than “ideals” bestowed on them
>>538355067I meant that specific scene in English Colors doesn't have nuance, it's just different for no valid reason. That's not to say the Japanese version has nuance. Maybe it's possible to do what you're thinking, or something similar, in a way that doesn't feel OOC, but I don't think that scene is it
>>538335571I love this picture. Still can't stand Silver though.
>>538335571I love this picture. Still can't stand Blaze though.
