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Racist Stag Edition

>News
30/08/2025 : Blizzard is taking legal action against Turtle. This doesn't stop the server, but it may impact some individuals working for Turtle under US jurisdiction ( https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127.1.0.pdf )
17/08/2025 : Turtle's new realm Ambershire is out along Epoch's Kezan, Gurubashi and Menethil!
15/08/2025 : Turtle Wow has just released 3 zones, 2 leveling dungeons, MC extension and bosses changes, new items and updated loot. Updated classes, rated PvP arenas and more!

>Released Servers ranked by current global popularity
Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+)
Project Epoch - https://www.project-epoch.net/ (Vanilla+)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (TBC, WOTLK, MoP)
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Classless, Reborn Classic+, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (MoP, pre-patch and WoD areas in near future)
Mistblade 3 (Sheilun) - https://stormforge.gg/en (MOP Progressive)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)
Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive)

>Guilds
To join a guild, type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, and whisper anyone for an invite once you're above level 5.
<Evil> - Turtle WoW, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, /wpsg/'s guild
<Branded> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, /heals/'s guild (ERP) >>>/trash/heals
<Full Moon Company> - Turtle WoW, Nordanaar realm, crossfaction
<Totally Nice Dudes> - Bronzebeard+, Ascension, whisper Kott

>Turtle
All Turtle addons (copy & paste github links on the launcher) - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtle-wow.org | https://talents.turtle-wow.org | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtle-timer.vercel.app

>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/4Awe3bxX

>Previous Thread
>>538258063
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what the fuck is going on in twow's world chat right now with the GM having a schizo meltdown and constantly begging for attention
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how long until we get a classic+ with good custom areas?
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>>538445986
twows are pretty good, especially by private server standards. I thought northwind was S tier, I'm in gilneas now and it's also pretty good. balor sucked though.
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>>538445942
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>>538445942
i think its just a radio event with the djs shitposting in world chat
i usually turn it off during any live shows because everyone sucks up to anyone with blue text and a <GM>, twitch chat tier annoying
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repostan

Are there any servers that are just vanilla with wotlk talents? Instead of trying to re-invent entire classes to actually function I think backporting wotlk classes would be fine. maybe you have to delete a few tiers of filler talents but that's easy enough.
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>>538446441
I've never played wrath, what's wrong with classic/turtle talents?
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class/spec for this feel?
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>>538446441
>just vanilla with wotlk talents?
Warmane, Icecrown.

>Level up character 60
>Stop levelling by talking to an NPC in Stormwind
>Enjoy 60 level dungeons, raids and BG with other level 60 players.
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>>538446510
vanilla obviously half the specs aren't viable. as for turtle while many of their ideas are good the balance is just ridiculous with paladins and shamans being essentially god classes. ~50% of the entire population being paladins isn't great.

wrath classes and talents are when they really put in effort to make them all at least work and remove a lot of the clunkiness, they started in tbc but didn't really manage it imo.
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>>538446510
wotlk is when the game died so most people hate wrath
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what do you think do they serve here?
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>>538447083
PISS
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>>538446225
there's two dj's, one is this guy, the annoying faggot begging for attention and not playing music while talking to himself, the other uses voice modulators and plays youtube poop music while making funny jokes and is therefore infinitely better
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>>538447083
"female" highelf paladins
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How the FUCK do I get this?
>https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=31825
Is this some challenge-only shit for the crafting one?
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>>538446510
Wrath is the finalized product of the original WoW. The classes feel polished and good to play. Wrath's problems were that they catered it to people who don't enjoy MMORPGs at all.

>Make questing too easy so people are inept at learning the basic mechanics of the class they are playing
>Make Heroics and Raids easy for casual audience
>Remove the character progression and effort in obtaining gear, mounts and other professions
>Create a catch up raid, ToC that is known for being the beginning of the end of World of Warcraft entirely.
>Implement Random Dungeon Finder to remove all aspect of preperation and community

WoTLK talent specs are near perfection. That is the only good thing.
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>>538447519
that's a paypiggie item
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>>538447519
Anon I ...
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>>538447519
craftmans challenge
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>>538447583
OHHH that explains it.
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Zamn! Stormwrought Castle/Depths is a fucking huge dungeon. I only pushed forward to the first room of Depths because that's where my quest was. What cool stuff is in the deepest depths of Stormwrought Depths?
It was pretty cozy to run because the tank was Lv50
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I don't like this place.
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>Turtle WoW
>See the new Stonetalon Mountains
>Feel disgusted
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>>538447680
backdoor leads straight to the boss who drops the epic mount and epic shield

final boss is the one who drops the ogre staff

everything else is literal ugly garbage and not worth farming/doing
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>>538447808
>some extra quests to do in what is otherwise a shitty waste of time of a zone
oh nooooo
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>>538447789
honestly this is the first time in two decades I've actually "looked" at the voidwalker, I forgot how cool his design is

I've been playing this stupid game for so long he just kind of turned into background noise for me basically the pet all the dumb pvp locks use so they can outtank whoever they fight with dots
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>>538447534
>WoTLK talent specs are near perfection.
facts, now that I think about it you could just give extra talents and leave the wotlk trees intact, no need to modify them at all.
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wotlk is unironically the best expac and i'm tired of this lusting for vanilla
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>>538448159
>"wotlk is unironically the best expac and i'm tired of this lusting for vanilla"
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>>538448159
wotlk is gay
but I want someone to port DKs to vanilla
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>>538448159
People want Retail minus. They want WoTLK with new content added to it. Classic+ is a cope. People who play Classic+ should just go to Classic Era.
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>>538447808
It's fucking great shut the fuck up.
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>>538448159
northrend is a painfully unfinished continent and wotlk introduced the ingame cash shop
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>>538448159
The appeal of vanilla is that the whole world remains at least somewhat relevant which I can definitely sympathize with, while northrend is probably the best of the pre-cata continents it still sucks how in the expansions literally nothing of note happens outside of the expansion continent.
Wrath classes are the best in general and the pvp was good, but the raiding was as inconsistent as you can get with 2 tiers being goated and 2 being garbage.
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>custom raids
>look inside
>raid from tbc and dungeon from cata
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>>538448373
>northrend is a painfully unfinished continent
as opposed to vanilla where half the zones are literal default flat terrain placeholders, and others go totally unused despite being critically lore relevant like hyjal?

the only blatantly unfinished location in northrend is crystalsong but they did that because it containing dalaran was a techinical problem for them. I know azjol nerub was cut but it things get cut in every game development cycle ever.
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>>538447963
demons are cool
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>>538446756
troll wl affliction
dwarf hunter marksman
orc rogue assa
gnome warrior fury
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Just got 36 on my hardcore slow and steady exhaustion high elf paladin on ambie.

Gonna go southshore after some BSing.
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>had a really cute blue tiara
>a dorky monocle with better stats dropped for me instead
>forced to look like a clown
:(
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>>538449427
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>>538449169
whats the point of hardcore seems gay and retarded
and then the server gets shut down lmao
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*howls*
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>yeah dude blizzard only hits big projects like turtle you don't have to worry about mid and small servers
>blizzard hits everlook
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>>538449092
i'll go undead spriest
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>Tauri is getting WoD
I was in the beta for WoD and it was awful
What could possibly be worse than pandas? Time travel
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>>538448838
jesus
sometimes you forget how vicious and gorey WoW would really be if it wasn't so cartoony
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>>538449884
The quests and raids were pretty good.
No interest in playing over there but if it's a massively accelerated patch cycle I could see people getting fun out of it.
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>>538447534
>Create a catch up raid, ToC that is known for being the beginning of the end of World of Warcraft entirely.
Argent Tournament as a whole was great worldbuilding, and ToC could be amazing but they made it a boss battle room instead of a proper raid with actually fun challenges and raid progression, take ICC for example, you climb up the citadel and you just feel the progression as you make your way through it, you even had a gunship battle which was really execution but at least they tried. ToC just had one room and a few recycled bosses, shit one of them isn't even a boss it's just random elites with pvp abilities. Shit they made use train jousting for WEEKS and motherfuckers didn't even put it in the raid. it was just in the dungeon...
In terms of "catch up raid", WoW had it since vanilla bro, it was usually troll raids with ZG and ZA. Just because it's not a troll raid doesn't change the fact that it's a direct parallel to those, Ulduar was so rough on people that most average players slurped that shit up because they weren't geared at all.
>Implement Random Dungeon Finder to remove all aspect of preperation and community
This however s truly when Bobby signed WoW's death warrant.
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>>538449884
Ugh, if we get time travel Steins;Gate garbage in the story I'm going to lose it.
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>>538450120
lots of gore in the old tcg
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>>538448341
>People want Retail minus. They want WoTLK with new content added to it.
Kind of true except I would say Wrath+ instead of retail minus. retail has a LOT of smelly bullshit, Wrath but with all vanilla content scaled to 80 would be the god server.
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>>538450120
If they stayed true to the old Warcraft art it would have been a metal album cover every single day

Even in Elwynn Forest, the starting zone of the entire game, people are getting eaten by wolves and torn apart by murlocs
In Redridge they get thrown into a wolf pit and killed for entertainment, in Westfall they get enslaved by anarchists, eaten by gnolls or turned into zombies, in Darkshire they get mauled by werewolves and left for dead, in STV they get turned into zombies with mind control potions, or frozen into crystal by basilisks, or ripped apart by the wildlife (if you aren't just murdered by the pirates)

The sheer number of ways you can die in WoW as a NPC is incredible
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>>538450628
That's one of the best anime ever made?
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>>538449593
What's the point of your life, idiot.
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Why doesn't a private server just go full AU fanfic with their writing? WoW's story gets worse the more expansions it gets.
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>>538448159
wotlk made every class worse
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>>538450647
i remember that one it just looks like some looney tunes shit lol
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>>538450661
What would the new horde race be for Wrath+? alliance would obviously be high elves since they are by far the most in demand and fit in the wotlk story with the silver covenant.
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>>538451019
Nobody knows anything about Warcraft's actual plot

Warcraft II pretty definitively ended the series when you cut the connection to Draenor. Warcraft III keeps the orcs from being summarily executed, makes the undead a massive threat and then... does nothing with either of these threads for nearly 10 years until the pandas show up to point out how stupid it is that they're still at war
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>>538450647
Warcraft used to be gory in general. Look at all the corpses hanging outside of the Scarlet Monastery.
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>training my Mace skill
>a Druid runs up and starts pawing at the dummy
>I now realise Unarmed is for Druids
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>>538448159
>>538448378
>>538448326
See pic rel
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>>538450920
You need to watch more anime.
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>wrath is the best expansion dude
>trial of the crusader is one of the most cancerous dailies ever put into wow
>is also responsible for putting dailies into wow
>made pve piss easy, no need to group up with people for quests
>vehicle combat up the ass
so tired of member berries
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>>538451831
>is also responsible for putting dailies into wow
are you retarded? dailies were huge in tbc, they didn't suddenly become a thing in 3.2.
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>>538448159
Wrathbabies are obnoxious creatures.
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>>538451612
druids dont use any weaponskill
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>>538451831
>is also responsible for putting dailies into wow
i get ptsd from going to quel'danas on a pvp server
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>>538452103
fuck that island
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>>538451946
vanilla started them actually with people grabbing world buffs daily
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>>538451674
>retard has shit opinion
>a handful of other retards also have a shit opinion
oh ok
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>>538451674
>the only reason to play a game is to gain an advantage over other players

what
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>>538450976
to make fun of retarded shitbags who play hardcore on private servers, among other things like jacking off to degen tranny porn and eating pizza
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>>538451674
You can tell this is true because it really strikes a nerve whenever it gets posted.
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>>538451674
these niggas need to boot up league of legends if they want an even playing field, im here to time sink away in dungeons while watching movies
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>shitbags
Unc, where is your family.
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do not deny the lich king his army
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It takes me around 20-25 minutes to make it from the back entrance to the final boss of Stormwrought. An easy enough farm but tedious because of so much distance traveled AND twow devs love to stuff their custom dungeons with gratuitous amounts of trash. I can only bear it once per day.
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>>538452968
>saw a GM on turtle WoW who was wielding frostmourn
the fact they turned it into a usable 2h sword on the vanilla client is kino af
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>>538453034
I feel bad for any casters when I run it on my war I will 100% roll on that epic staff so I can mog it for arms pvp
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Reading up on the class changes for WoD so I can figure out what to try

I hated monk and DK in MoP, maybe it's time to give priest another chance
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>alliance pop is about 70k compared to horde 40k on ambershire

hordesisters... give in to the helf cock
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>>538452419
>eating pizza
what's wrong with that?
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>>538447534
>Wrath is the finalized product of the original WoW. The classes feel polished and good to play.
ironically the worst playing class in wrath is probably the dk, it's decently strong but the rune resource system is miserably clunky. Tanking as dk is janky as hell because they inexplicably slapped a random 7x threat modifier on icy touch so dk tank specs just maximize icy touch damage and spam it. The 'any spec can tank or dps' thing was a huge failure and only makes for the worst of both worlds for both roles. Death grip was a horrendous addition to the game as well, it's basically a gimmick in pve but is obscenely overpowered in bgs or any kind of large scale pvp.
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>>538453757
it's your only chance to try glad stance prot dps since Blizz axed it immediately after WoD
it's not good but it was fun and pretty cool
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>>538454710
you can just do that on sod right now which is still a less terrible experience than wod
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>>538454797
>SoDomy
would unironically rather play wod
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>>538453169
two_soyjaks_pointing.png
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>>538454560
>The 'any spec can tank or dps' thing was a huge failure and only makes for the worst of both worlds for both roles.
actually this would be the biggest necessary change to wotlk+, it would need to change the dk specs to make blood the dedicated tanking tree and frost/unholy dedicated dps.
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>>538454560
>icy touch
reminds me of the image of "how to play rogue in season 5 arenas" except its a lazily made DK edit where every single button is replaced with icy touch
what the fuck were they thinking
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>>538455240
It's especially retarded because they made that change in 3.3 or something, late in the expansion, AFTER they had already nerfed the 'icy slam' dps spec from 3.0 which also just spammed icy touch just for dps instead of threat.
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>>538454969
LOL unironically it was me and a dwarf baseding over it in westfall
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>>538455240
can you try to find the edit?
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tents and cross faction is fucking cringe on ambershire it should be a pvp fest but nooo
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hinterlands and alterac valley are very underutilised

i expected more shenna
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>>538455673
i havent been able to find it for years but it was an edit of this
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>>538455676
>PvE server
>should be a pvp fest

Are you retarded?
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>>538451363
Vrykul unironically fit better as a horde race than alliance, they are culturally almost identical to orcs.
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>>538456385
Is this really how pvp works? You just memorization a rotation for each class? How the fuck do you fight someone else when you have no idea what their abilities are like.
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>>538457610
Obviously it's not that simple,
>How the fuck do you fight someone else when you have no idea what their abilities are like.
You don't, you can't be successful in pvp unless you have a solid understanding of every class in the game.
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>euros are going to sleep
>merricans are still sleeping
What am I to do during neet hours?
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>>538458194
what
it's not even night time in burgerland
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>>538457610
You basically have to learn the classes too and remember what they can or can't do until you know what stuff you should or shouldn't do at times. A warrior hurts like a angry brazillian when he gets close and can charge you so you may try kiting him as long as possible until he dead for example. It's mainly just trial and error along with practicing until you get the hang of it before releasing that mmo pvp is fucking trash and no one should take it that seriously
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Bronzebeard... home...
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>>538449858
everlook is literally owned by turtle, dumbo
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>>538455673
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I smithed myself a helmet on ambie.
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>>538458908
OH MY GOD IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT FOR YEARS
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>>538457803
goddamn, I've levelled to 60 like 8 times in the past and I couldn't tell you most of the abilities of what I'm playing right this instant
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>>538459743
if you regularly pvp it doesn't take long to pick up, it's no different from memorizing the mechanics of a raid boss.
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>>538459379
even the most deprived and simple-minded attempts at garnering attention are lent a modicum of soul by the close-up photo of a screen.
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>>538460593
>deprived
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how did they make charge work so well on turtle? I haven't fallen through the ground one time, even on the most sloped terrain that usually guarantees you fall through and die.
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>>538461008
>pserv that mogs blizzard
theres a reason theyre coming after it
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>>538460917
threads full of esl turdworlders much like the private servers themselves
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>>538460917
aechur if he real
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>>538461008
I've fallen through a few times on turtle
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>>538461008
ive fallen through seams in the world once or twice but at least falling through the world attempts to unstuck you before teleporting to a GY instead of fucking killing you and forcing a spirit rez
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uhhhh hunter bros??
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>>538463668
Ohnonononono lockbros! What went wrong?
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>>538463781
I would play lock way more if it wasn't a fucking pet class.
the warlock demons should have all been temporary summons like the infernal.
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>>538463668
Is that accurate? Last I checked there were twice as many paladins as warriors on alliance alone and shamans were by and far the most played horde class, those numbers seem too tight.
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>>538463860
then go play a mage or a shadow priest faggot
retards like you are the reason blizz turned every class into the same shit with different color on retail
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>>538463860
there actually is a solo warlock spec now but it's not very good
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>>538464425
the filename timestamp is from september 2024, the pic is probably from classic or something
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>>538463860
turtle demo is literally rotating between all the big nigger demons as a spec
you dont even keep your regular fucking demons out because you cycle between doomguard/felguard/infernal or just felguard/infernal and then keep out a quick summoned succ or some shit until the other 2 come off cooldown
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>>538464425
yes
https://twow-pop.click/?realm=Ambershire
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>drooling retards posting with default aux settings without even looking at what they are posting uploading shit for either outlandish prices or below vendor sell value for 72 hours
>post everything by my golden rule of 24 hours (nobody with a brain bids on long postings because you WILL be outbid, 8 hours is too short and might get passed over depending on when you post), bid set at 15% over vendor sale value and buyout either undercutting lowest competition or 40% of vendor sale value, whichever is lower
>consistently log on to a mailbox of several g in sales each day

I know math sucks but if people put just a slight bit more effort into their postings they too could enjoy rolling around in fat stacks.
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>>538464905
>59k alliance
>12k horde
>almost 40% of alliance is human alone


AAAAAAAA WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY HORDENIGGERS AT
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>>538465009
anon if people didnt suck at math or were stupid with the auction house, people like us couldnt roll in fat fucking stacks all the time
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I accidently ninjaed a rogues pants from strat undead because i was high and it was an upgrade from my greens, i feel like that karma gonna get me some day.
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>>538449169
>hardcore
>paladin
You dont get points for using cheats lil bro
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bagshui and TurtleRP were deleted. I'll update the archive later if I remember.
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>>538465198
raping the alliance sluts
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>>538464538
how does it compare to the conventional lock?
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>>538464538
>>538466427
can you play a pure fire lock on turtle? I saw they changed searing pain, and I saw some random ud lock using only searing pain and other fire spells.
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>Turtle timers site says ZG reset in 2 days
>REST IN ONE HOUR, STALKER
FUCK
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anybody in evil give Comedy a ginvite?
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>>538465673
https://files.catbox.moe/qvvig6.7z
git clone <repo.bundle>

aux-addon
Bagshui
FlightMap
pfUI-CustomMedia
pfUI-MoreFonts
PizzaWorldBuffs
Turtle-Dragonflight
TurtleRP
no1600x1200.dll v6
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can someone sell me on coming back to turtle? i got bored of it at the beginning of the summer and stopped playing wow. the weather is still nice where i am. are you guys enjoying this new patch? and is it too late to roll on ambie?
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You now remember Deca
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>>538471182
it's too late, you missed the boat
better luck next fresh
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>>538470451
Makes me sad to see all the outdated GitHub forks and those that just upload a random source archive to GitHub without any commit history when these git mirrors exist. Too bad Turtle's Discord require phone verification or I'd post it there for those dumbdumbs that were looking for bagshui.
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>>538471193
I remember Deca getting HOGGER'd
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>>538471182
It's late but not too late. Should still be quite active across the level ranges.
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Why is defending Ashenvale from low self-esteem Horde boys so fun? Why is camping them and reading their whispers so fun?
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>>538465009
People bother to bid?
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>>538472521
Post their whispers.
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when does this pvp rank shit update?
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>>538454375
Its not about the hock but the hussy
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TURTLE DEAD?
server went down for me and not even launcher is working now
anyone else?
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>>538475093
Hahahaha
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>>538476812
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This is Kevin.
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>>538451674
I've played both and I have both fix and not-fit the description of a player in this internet meme and:

WOTLK has _less_ raid logging than vanilla. Vanilla is a couple weeks of getting to 60 while no-lifeing (maximum), followed by raid logging relatively quick and straightforward raids. MC was the worst being about an hour including travel. AQ at least had some challenge, and later on we would only target a few bosses.

WOTLK and cata had a fucking part-time job schedule of 20 hours+ a week as a top-1000 guild. I was in some ranked just outside 1000, and some up to close to the top 100, and they were all '3 days a week, optional (mandatory) cleanup day on sunday'. Generally the raids were 4 hours per night, but considering overtime for pushing content and prepping for the raid (not even including farming for consumes) you were easily at 20 hours weekly. This was on top of whatever dailies and other content was in the release schedule.

I played through classic re-release so it's fresh in my mind. Each patch had an attune which could be done in a few hours. After that we were generally raid logging. Farming pre-bis from dungeons was a lot of fun but that was a one-off and honestly very unnecessary given that we were inviting level 58 players to our first clears of ony and MC.
Playing again on twow and am excited for a dad-friendly game I can put 5hr/week into and still feel like I'm keeping up with the mid-level player. It's been a lot of fun :)
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>>538465198
Am I gay or are you just lying? It's 59k alli 38k horde
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>>538477819
That's a chocobo
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They're coming for you Akalix.
Blizzard's cock is coming straight for your asshole.
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bliz using twow case to set the precedent for just sending letters and getting any server they want closed with no talkback, right?
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>>538483624
>getting any server they want closed
good luck with that
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What is this square that keeps popping up

Paladin on turtle wow btw
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>>538484748
probably one of your retarded tranny mods
hoped that helped
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>>538483337
>profiting by an illegal pirate server in the land of the free
rip bozo
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>>538483337
Was it worth it to bat for russian scammers?
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>>538485118
But I barely use any addons, so........
>>538485357
Why did you type "russian scammers" like is that worse than a non-russian scammer? Also how is it a scam?
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>>538485505
Because US law doesn't reach Russia retard.
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>>538485621
So it's worse to "bat" for "scammers"(undefined) who are out of reach of (((American))) courts.....why?
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>>538485829
>tranime
just say you're mentally deficient
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>the person who runs a secret gold selling service where she bans the buyers and steals the gold back isn't a scammer
shut up tranime retard
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>>538485871
This is a tranime website, Herschel.

Curious that you can't explain your seemingly unwarranted use of "russian" as a qualifier, or define a "scammer".........
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I only like the high elf paladin poster because shes trans and it makes my dick hard
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>>538484748
same texture as the blue weapon effect but neither transparent nor glowing.
>>538485505
russian scammers is just an overexaggeration
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>>the person who runs a secret gold selling service where she bans the buyers and steals the gold back
[source]?

I support scamming gold buyers so I hope that's true.
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Any servers with the feature of creating a character that can level all professions without the ability to trade?
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Go look up what happened to Elysium and educate yourself you dumb tranny.
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>A Russian(not sure why this matters) woman(cute) scammed a loser by selling him gold on wow and then banned him from her server
Ummmmm based????
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>>538486308
that would be kino af,
really I don't get why they had the 2 profession limit in the first place.
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>>538486542
>>538486291
why is this trannime mad?
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>ai slopart avatarfag
>liar
>backstabber
>pretends to be “pure”
>shitty erper
>gossip
>two-faced
>tranny
Aoiyuki was Elaynna if Elaynna wasn’t complete shit at the game.
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>>538486719
Why would you think I'm "mad?" Are you ESL?
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>>538445775
Tuetlewow is a criminal russian money laundering operation.
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Anyway, scamming gold buyers? I approve.
Russians? Love em.
Turtle wow? I'm playing it.
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ok i just read the trannime's post i think it's mad because people making fun of some privateserver ITT
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>>538447272
I heard 2 DJs on Ambershire. One was a cringe beta male from the Netherlands just happy to be there, although pathetic and cringe. The other was like a literal demonic tranny making demon voices and playing shit music.
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>>538487037
so is every large mmo

wait, you thought all those "bots" generating subscription revenue were chinese or something
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>because people making fun
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>>538448159
WOTLK ruined WoW and made everything too easy, especially tanking. What's funny is the vanilla+ community doesn't consider warriors viable tanks at all. That's how shit you kids are.
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I can't wait for woyers to get shit on even harder in WOTLK+
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>trannime is also english major
LUL
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Tranime only has one N
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>>538487290
You won. The brown can't even answer you directly out of shame.
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how....the fuck do i get around..........
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>trannime english major still seething impotently
KEKW
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>>538487158
>>538487506
>>538488186
Bro just admit you lost this is fucking pathetic
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Tavri chads, how to mute spell gcd sounds in MoP? Putting a Sound folder inside Tauri's root folder doesn't work.
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>>538445775
in azeroth at war, can transmog be disabled?
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>538472521
>538485829
>538486131
>538486291
>538486542
>538486979
>538487290
>538489009
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>>538486953
realest take i've seen on wpsg
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>>538489564
All me
Also:
>chilling in a hub city
>get whispered an invite to join a guild
>farming in a mid level zone
>get whispered an invite to join a guild
>in the middle of a dungeon???
>get whispered an invite to join a guild
Is this normal behaviour? Do people just /who and go down the list whispering invites?
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>"tranime"
What a wonderful new way for newfaggots to out themselves kek
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>>538465009
I just place armor at 150% vendor price
No way people are buying dungeon shit for 3 gold
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this trannime started out acting all chill and smug but is getting all twisted up now what up
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>mob runs away
Two can play at this game....
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why is your ui so ugly
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why is your face so ugly?
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>tranime
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An ironman mode for wow where you can do all professions but never trade other players seems like a fun challenge mode idea.
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if there isn't a university commissioned study into the rates of transgenderism and how there is a direct correlating link to paladins, there should be
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m'am please remain seated m'am i am sorry for misgendering you

yes i understand you are upset m'am you're scaring everyone on the bus
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>>538483624
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bnetd#Blizzard_takedown_demand_and_lawsuit kid, they've been doing this longer than you've been alive
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epoch can't even keep their server up
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so given that you can get a turtle mount at 18 and it apparently scales as you level up, does that mean i don't really need to bother saving for mount money at level 40?
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>>538492792
if you want to go slow
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>>538492792
I feel like you're conflating Riding and mount prices at 40. Riding costs 80g/71g and a mount will only run you like 9g. You won't need to buy a mount if you have the turtle but you'll need Riding anyway because the turtle, even at 40, will only move at like half the speed Riding will give you.
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>>538492865
>>538492885
ah man.. guess i'll have to go the usual skinning prof to vendor all the shit to be able to afford it then
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>>538492792
Turtle mount speed only becomes as fast as normal mount at lvl60
You get a fuckload of money through the 40-50 range though so I wouldn't worry about it too much
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Tonguebathing Sheena's/Torta's cute, pink butthole...
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>>538493438
>Turtle mount speed only becomes as fast as normal mount at lvl60
Unless something miraculously changes at 60, not it doesn't. The turtle and store mounts scale at 0.5% per level, putting you at 30% at 60 whereas regular riding is 60%.
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>tfw cant find a group for either gnomer, rfk or crescent grove in nearly an hour as a tank
why did they put dragonmaw and stormwrought in the same level range as SM and 3 other dungeons
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>>538494680
where are your friends you made through earlier dungeons?
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>>538446839
lol you weren't kidding, I just made a new account yesterday to test it out and the horde starting zone for both Taurens and Orcs is 90 percent shammys.
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Orgrimmar is a fucking slum
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>>538471182
it doesn't feel too late, I was in the Forsaken starting zone last week and it was still full. If anything I keep seeing people complain about the lack of teammates for lvl 60 content so I'm assuming most people are still leveling.
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>>538471182
naxxramas in 10 months plz level to 60 by then we need more healers
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>in the Grim Reaches
>find this neat statue of a drawf called Grim Batol
>it's right next to a fort of orcs deep in orc territory
>they're real orcs too (Dragonmaw), not Thrall's sissy "please let us live in peace" Horde orcs
Worldbuilding question: Why isn't this statue fucking ruined? And if it's made out of unbreakable Dwarfmantium or some bullshit metal there's nothing stopping orcs from chucking paint or flags over it
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>>538498723
Why would orcs care to engage in statue desecration.
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>>538498827
Psychological warfare
To properly claim territory
Orcs turned Draenei into pavement slabs because uhhhhhhh so being dicks for little reason is lore accurate
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>>538499269
orcs are not a single unit, all orc clans have different customs and values. afaik dragonmaw just enjoy fucking dragons in the ass, they really couldn't care less about some dwarf statue
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>>538498723
It's made out of Dwarfmantium mined from Grim Batol and as it just so happens it can't be painted or sprayed over either. Special magical metal.
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>>538486953
>Elaynna, Elaynna, Elaynna
>Everything bad that ever happened is Elaynnas fault
>Its never my fault
>Its just this one single person, who cut ties with our guild half a year ago and we have to harass her for no other reason than to have a scapegoat for our own shortcomings.
Pic related.
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>>538500654
tranime poster
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>>538501205
Brown.
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How do people clear elites? Is there like a discord everyone is hiding in? I'm the only person using general chat across multiple zones begging for someone to join me while offering to quest with them in return.
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so did twow make blacksmithing worth it while leveling or is it still a dogshit money pit that only has a few recipes everyone (warriors) want for endgame?
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>>538501565
play anything that isn't brown and kill them
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>>538501442
cracker got mad?
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man these fucking names i swear to god
how am i meant to pronounce this? el-ee-andree-ah? fucking nerd with your bullshit rp name kys
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yeah i forgot the screenshot suck my dick i dont spend 23 hours a day on the computer like a faggot (just 22 hours)
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Once again im asking for Scholo runs.
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>>538502665
i run them on my warrior but i don't take fagadins, lol
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>>538502665
weren't you a male yesterday
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>>538502665
Yes but you will have to be my rp healslut in whispers while we run it
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>>538446839
What's so good about turtle's shamans? Genuine question cuz I never played one but was thinking of starting one on Ambershire.
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>>538503161
they can tank
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>>538502109
Legit could just be an example name from char creation
Making non-human names can be rough. Humans can just pick a normal ass old fashioned name like Marcus or Harold or Gregor while every other race needs to go full schizo and try to figure out the tiny venn diagram between "yeah that seems elfy" and "yeah I can remember and pronounce that"
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>>538503550
There are generators online for that
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>>538502665
You disgust me.
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>>538503674
True but those feel impersonal and sloppy
I'd sooner praise an elf named after a flower's latin name or something equally simple over whatever this is
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nureinul had the best names... rolled off the tongue...
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For me it's Asalys and Sylma
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I want a turtle gf (bf(female(male)))
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For me it's Elaynna and Elicia
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I miss Skoll.
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>>538506458
BLIZZARD...
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No Tauren rogues on BBC+? Lame
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>>538503004
He’s a male every day.
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>>538502665
Which Failed Male Creep is this?
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finally, i got the mount, its over, its done
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is turtle down
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>>538506717
Zaptuah
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>>538506717
its me, your dad
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lf erp
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>>538506717
That’s Zaptuah’s character unironically.
Exact same look he used for his fem helf paladin on Nord. And he said he had a 60 on Ambie.
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uhhhh.....
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>>538508217
do white people really
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>>538508440
He’s German so he’s not White he’s Muslim
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>>538506717
Zaptuah
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>>538501837
american negroes dont have the iq needed to even be aware of private servers unless they are skinny 5'4 urkel lookin ass bitch niggas off top
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>>538509848
I'm 5'6" whiteboi
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I'm 6'2" and my character is 10ft
AMA
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i'm 6'3 wyboy
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Which one of the Branded fags are Telol and Fuutank?
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>>538514198
one of them is in evil
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>>538514718
Whe-ree-ver.
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>>538514198
I won't tell you.
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>>538445775
anyone gonna play on Tauri when they release WoD?
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Greetings from Ambershire!
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>>538508217
Funny thing is that his paladin used to be a male dwarf and he race changed and gender swapped it.
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I just spent 16s on a flight from Hillsbrad to Stranglevine
/blog
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>>538516113
I tried playing on Tauri before and it was always a ghost town during NA times because the majority of the population is Slavs that can't speak English.
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>>538515565
Because you don't know.
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>>538520187
we only love dwarves
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>>538520520
I love Worgens thank you very much
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>>538520187
you are a normalfaggot who gaslit himself into liking midgets due to them being "pedo coded" and are too afraid to admit being a lolicon
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>>538520187
i much prefer goblin plaps
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After only 17 runs. Time to grind gloves now.
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Feeling cute
Might heal the Zul'whatever dungeon
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>>538522945
Zul'Farrak.
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What server should I play if I want to run dungeons occasionally and jerk off with men after where they call me a tranny faggot and make me cum
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>>538523360
wallcraft
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>>538520520
>>538520568
>>538520587
>>538521314

I love every female except human ones.
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>>538523010
What did you call me???
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A ret pally pumper? On the meters? In this part of the expansion, in this raid, localized entirely within this boss fight?
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There is a party in Stormwind turn on the radio!
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>>538524367
reddit
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faggots
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>>538524367
>>538524641
I got a secret message about a DJ party happening in the Barrens like a week ago
I was busy gathering herbs in Trisfal Glades and at that point I realised the radio was shit so I ignored it
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>>538524789
Lok'Tar.
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thinking about making yet another deadend character to waste my time
is it worth playing on the sinking boat that is turtle
or is warmane TBC worthwhile
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>>538526620
It's Warmane so not really
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>>538521610
and what difference does it make? literally none
skip grinding trash blues and just do mc nigga
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On our way to Orgrimmar
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>>538516113
I was on their MoP serb for years with my own vanity guild

I'm definitely going to hit up WoD and set my xp to blizzlike
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>>538528063
what the hell is that
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>>538516113
maybe, im going to wait until day 20 or 25 to level up my character to 60 though
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>>538528179
Turn on the radío also here is the livestream https://m.twitch.tv/dj_sheal
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>>538528063
>express KFC delivery to the mudhutters
noshoes be eatin gud tonite
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>>538528179
Based DJ is going to give every Alliance player on the server a free Thrall kill.
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>>538528063
Why do those boomkin models look so weird?
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>>538526620
turtle still got it
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ngl i thought stormforge was making wrath+ but they are just adding new items and class combinations, and some other weird shit
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Epoch is shutting down kek
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I'm sorry Turtlechads, you won..... I will roll a helf mage here now
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<Evil> is NOT taking Epoch refugees. We're full.
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>that guy who actually played on epoch
lol?
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i wont grave dance on epochniggers much but i will say that if everlook AND epoch are also being targeted by blizzard that this is definitely a real sign that theyre getting serious about taking down vanilla servers
funny that theyre using all this money to lawfare random shitty servers instead of making a decent game worth paying for
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KEK EPOILETS!
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It looks like... slow and steady wins the race..........................
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Why did Turdle have to ruin the WoW pserver scene?
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Why are we happy that Shenna aka Torta basically put a big target on the vanilla+ pserver scene?
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>>538451019
incredibly late reply but there was an RP server back in the day called prologue that did their own weird ass fanfic lore setting for a server with shit like dustwallow marsh being sucked into the skywall for a few years turning it into a sand-blasted desert and all the theramore citizens into al'akir worshippers
it also had gnomes as second class citizens living in the slums of ironforge
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epoch is shutting down? source? kek
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>>538516113
yea, but not really
just leveling and maybe getting the flying unlocked, no other point
>>538518560
>hungarian(slavs) server
>surprised most players are slavs
but no, just avoid hungarian specific groups and everyone speaks English
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>turtle stays running despite constant dooming over the lawsuit, has still been up for over a week with no plans to shut down on the horizon
>epoch shits itself and shuts down instantly over a few cease and desist letters
I hate tribalism but frankly, based Turtle and I knew the epoch team were cucks all along
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>>538530026
They got a single C&D and decided to shutdown.
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>>538530090
hungarians speak english though, it's mostly romanian and spanish dogs that refuse to do so
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>>538528858
yea shit's pretty lazy desu
not even touching the balance so it's the same shit as always
who cares about lego items, barely anyone gets them and it's a seasonal server that will die in a year
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>>538530189
I think it's fake. Was probably part of the Ascension deal to let them have full control of the server after a month.
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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO, TURTLE TRANNIES DON'T LOOK
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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UI design is hard
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>>538530371
It's not fake, Kaytotes used it as his excuse to leave and everyone else on the team said the server isn't actually shutting down but Kaytotes is gone.
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>>538530159
they are not shutting down, read what's written
they are just disassociating their names from it
it will stay up and running, since ascension controls it
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>>538530474
>owner gets a single fucking C&D
>shits, pisses himself, starts crying and screaming its dead, runs into the night
>devs go "lol lmao" and keep developing it
what kind of cuckoldry is this?
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>he still believes what these con artists have to say
K E K

TVRTLE WON.
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Ascension is the next whale to harpoon, but they'll probably wait until the result of the turtle rico to go after because they similarly won't shut down over a C&D
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>>538530653
>>538530474
this is only the ascension devs

the original epoch dev team bent over and said "YEAH BLIZZARD WE WILL SHUT DOWN THE SERVER FUCK EVERYONE"
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>>538530653
It's prudent to do so if they live in a country where blizzard can fuck them in the ass. not complying with c&d means a lot of headache and no chance of winning unless you want to relocate to a shithole country
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>>538530976
Ascension has been running for like a decade now
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>>538530474
>only epoch supposedly got a C&D
>Ascension did not, despite the two being joined at the hip
Something seems fishy about all of this.
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>>538531103
>Ascension has been running for like a decade now
Mostly underground and low pop servers
This new wave of classic+ enjoyers is something else
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>Epoch getting a C&C
>Probably won't matter in the slightest
>CoA is gonna be delayed even more and "justified" with the team being spread thin trying to save Epoch
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I JUST WANNA PLAY MY VENOMANCER AND KILL PEOPLE AS ANUB'ARAK I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT EPOCH
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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So this basically confirms that Blizzard is doing their own Classic+ right?
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>>538531436
It doesn't confirm anything. Their version of classic+ is SoD.
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>turtle GODS dev team
fuck blizzard the server stays up

>epoch KEKS dev team (not ascension, all hail dutch)
YEA MASSA BLIZZAD WE WILL SHUT THIS SHIT DOWN OH LAWD WE LOVE BLIZZARD
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>>538530976
>>538531103
>>538531214
guys, need I remind you that
>NOTHING EVER HAPPENS
warmane has been running for 15 years and everyone knows about it, the biggest around (besides this new classic+ fad) and blizzard couldn't do shit
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we stand until the end
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>>538531551
2 fags
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>>538531436
They send out C&D letters regularly to private servers all the time, do you think they're blissfully aware of them until a team posts stuff like this?
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>>538531423
same here bro
supposed to release in aug, then delay but announcement in aug, then in sep, now zero info
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>>538531535
Blizzard is purging stuff doing classic+ because

>>538531436

they don't give a shit about expansion era content because they never had a plan to do that.
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remember when epoch shills said it would kill turdie? lmfao
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>>538531535
>NOTHING EVER HAPPENS
Except Nostalrius and Felmyst
Warmane is still alive but basically dead
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>>538531795
Nost devs shut down the server because they met with Blizzard and thought they'd have jobs to work on Classic WoW, Gummy printed out a fake C&D when his server couldn't take the player load and stealth relaunched it.
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I'm a cute girl
But in Azeroth I'm a manly Night Elf man with a dark past, and also he can shapeshift into a bear.
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>>538531795
Nost devs hosted in the US and folded under pretty much zero pressure because they (IIRC) wanted to become official Blizzard devs, Felmyst's supposed C&D letter was sketchy as fuck and from day 1 it's been theorized it was just an excuse to drop the server because he couldn't handle it
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>>538530474
epoch devs will cease and desist and join Ascension team with different usernames, what a disaster
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>>538531795
>nostalrius
burger devs who would be ass raped if they didn't comply
>felmyst
gummy is a lying fag, his server is irrelevant to the point of blizzard not caring
>for felmyst #14, your client is unable to use resolution past 480p and keybinds are disabled
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>it's another turtle episode of Horde pvping in Stranglethorn only through cheap ass rogues

Second time it has happened. Was this class really that obnoxious in pvp in vanilla as well. I know they are super geared towards dps and pvp by default, but holy shit even an average rogue can become a real nuisance.
Didn't turtle balance the classes or something?
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>>538532212
>Second time it has happened. Was this class really that obnoxious in pvp in vanilla as well
You should watch world of roguecraft one day
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every day dutch just mogs that retard keytotes hard
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>>538532272
warlocks are mushrooms
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If warmane is down too it is fucking over for every private server
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>>538532212
There's like zero choke points in Stranglevine. How can PvP happen?
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turtle/trannywow?
>sued into oblivion
evergood?
>C&D, getting shut down
epork?
>C&D, getting shut down
more will continue to get sued or sent C&D letters in the coming weeks and months. I think it's time to end this retarded general, blizzard has had enough and is ENDING private servers. kek, bur even.
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how is ascension able to operate for so long?
they even profit from their operation big time
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>>538532702
turtle won't shutdown
>>538532880
ascension has insane levels of monetization. i would not even be mad if blizzard tried to shut them down
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>>538532880
the american empire is failing, and with it goes copyright enforcement or any other ability to enforce anything at all in foreign countries
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I DAB ON TURTLETRANNY/EVERGOOK/EFAGS FUCKING GRAVES
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azeroticachads stay winning
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>>538532502
warmane has been online for like almost 20 years combined with the time when they were still molten-wow. They were the biggest private server around when wow was at its wotlk peak and blizzard had infinite money and power and they still survived. None of their shit is public, their staff and admins are basically unknown and have zero notoriety, and they have been getting away with it for this long despite the fact that they have the most egregious cash shop of any server and are probably pulling in 10x the revenue of anyone else.
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>>538533067
>turtle won't shutdown
they're being sued for over 1 million dollars along with criminal charged, you are a retarded fag if you think shenna will get away with it this time.
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how long did it take for nostalrius to shut down? does anyone know?

>>538533202
grats for the 10 people that play there
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>>538532702
>I hope to see a lot of players come join us to say goodbye to a great community that has existed for the last 3 years
lmao, no thanks
their community has been dead outside of the first month of their fresh launches, and they can kill themselves for adding that bullshit cash shop to what was supposed to be a regular vanilla server
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>>538532880
>they even profit from their operation big time
every single big server does
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Why does everyone talk about how insane Ascension's cash shop is, but nobody ever talks about how turtle sells $200 Spectral Tiger reskins and p2w portable vendors that are single character locked?
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>>538533365
reminder that the everlook dev was working along with shenna and turtle wow.
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>>538533304
2 more weeks
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>>538533439
people always talk about it though
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>>538533560
On here sure, but wherever you go be it leddit or anywhere reporting on the turtle C&D they talk about how evil ascension's cash shop is while turtle's is arguably worse.
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>>538533270
all this winning and warmane wouldn't even answer my ticket when a chinese guy scammed me out of my mechano-hog with a trade window script :(
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>>538533439
they aren't single-character locked if you only play hardcore, you get to reuse them on another character if you die :3
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>>538533304
she can't keep getting away with it...
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>>538533685
it's insane how poor the quality of service is with warmane compared to how much money they make.
they only get away with it because they've been around forever, if you tried to launch a new server that was a carbon copy of warmane, bone stock wotlk with a fully p2w cash show and zero gm availability, it wouldn't get 100 players.
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>>538534193
are they getting the money tho?
icecrown has been up for a decacde, everyone has everything
that's why they are scrambling and doing shit like onyxia
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>>538534193
>it wouldn't get 100 players.
How many people still play warmane tho?
It cant be higher than a few thousands
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>>538533304
KEK KEEP SEETHING NAFOTROON BLIZZKIKE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>538534376
they definitely are, I have a few bis characters on warmane that I got by selling gold for their donation currency through their official trading thing on their site. I have probably sold at least 2 million gold to other players over a span of a few years. Apparently there is no shortage of new players that need gold.

The thing about warmane is that their population is at least 50% south american and the other 50% is mostly other flavors of third worlder. They play for a few months and then stop, but there are always more to replace them since playing is free. And almost all of them if they make it to max level will throw money at a bis trinket or 36 slot bags or some other shit, third worlders are fully compliant with skinner box p2w systems from playing mobile games.

>>538534837
A lot, people always say they fake their numbers but I doubt it. Dalaran on warmane has more players than stormwind or org does on turtle. The queues for everything are fast at most times of day.
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>>538532702
yes goyim let us simply fold and bend the knee to the blizzard overlords for it is all over. don't forget to buy the Midnight Ultra Uber Epic Warchest Pack when it releases for gay rainbow wings and ten million gold :^)
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>>538533304
why do people in north america think their companies have godlike powers and can send the pinkertons to your house anywhere on the planet
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>>538535105
capitalism and consumerism has overtaken christianity in the US and now their population worships companies instead of God
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I have 3 level 25-30 chars on both Turtle and Epoch so I'm 75% insured.
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>>538535704
and you are a level 0 sexhaver irl
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>>538535105
>>538535070
>>538535007
>>538533525
the seethe replies from the mentally ill pserver homos, lmao.
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>>538534376
>>538535052
and also 99/100 shadowmournes on warmane are bought, and the price for a shadowmourne is 150 USD iirc.
Go in any random bg and there will be 10-20 shadowmournes. I even saw a fresh 80 in full quest greens with a shadowmourne helping his level 75 friend level in grizzly hills.
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>>538535841
oh, this is bait
you got me
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Tauri. You join. WoD on the 30th of September.
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>>538536020
DoA
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>>538536020
noty
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>>538536020
>one of the absolute worst expansions ever made
>anything beyond wrath in the first place, let alone classic still being superior wow
lol, lmao even
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>>538529427
it takes the fraction of the cost to send some corporate lawyers to shake up some pserf trees compared to hiring like 50 full time devs and doing all the groundwork for that to start building classic+
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>>538536020
on the way to 90
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>>538536318
>cookie clicker enjoyer
lmao subhuman don't type
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>>538535841
>lol i trole u i was just pretending to be retarded
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>>538490827
you can set this up quite easily on your own server and you are right it is very fun
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>>538508217
It wasn't a helf
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>>538536318
Cata-Legion are the best expansion though?

Vanilla-Wrath is normalfag tier
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>>538531636
i see atleast 3
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what do they look like
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>>538537386
sigh... time to jerk off again
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>>538474542
seriously can someone answer this already, I'm sitting on 120g and need to buy a mount but if I have to wait a week for my rank 3 to actually come through I won't bother with the discount.
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the nice thing about being trans is you stop wanting to jerk off after a while
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>>538537985
It updates in like 7 or 8 hours
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>>538537951
3 pump chump
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>>538538354
Do you need a boyfriend
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>>538538402
thanks, probably worth waiting for that
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>>538537386
>>538537951
>>538538498
Behave yourselves, Anons.
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Epoch took a month to turn on, the devs failed at every basic server deploying operation and then they are getting cucked by both ascension and blizzard.
l
m
a
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Why is DMN queue so slow :(

>>538538678
denied
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>>538538678
That ass belongs on my lap
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>>538536020
i just might worgenanon i just might..
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>epoch dies
>immediately /wpsg/ has erp tranny posting again with 0 game discussion
really makes you think
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So what's the deal with the short chubby owls?
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Remember to send your donos for my lawsuit fund :3 uwu :3
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>>538539937
I just made a character in Ambershire, i'm officially back...
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>>538540745
welcome back!
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guh...
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All these private servers shutting down sucks but it obviously means we’re days away from official classic plus.

I’m exited to see how they’re gonna fuck it up.
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What's the name of the "arms warrior" song on turtle's radio? Cant fucking find it whatsoever HELP
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>>538473023
It's sometimes a good way to get shit cheap if you spot a low priced bid without much time left.

>>538489893
Armor is a lot more complex because you have to be aware of how valuable it is at it's level. If there is popular, easily earnable armor that is superior at that level (eg: quest rewards) it's pretty unlikely to sell.
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>>538540697
extreme anal sex with ghetto remy lacroix
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I don't know why you guys feel the need to gravedance on others or do this gay tribal bullshit. I play on Turtle and I feel bad for the epoch people coming home from work to discover Blizzard is being gay again.

Why the fuck are the janitors not banning the off topic attention whoring trannies ITT?
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>>538541507
>remy lacroix
>google it
ofc the gooner coomer knows a porn actress by name and looks immediately. get help you brown skinned idiot.
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>>538541710
epochniggers spent the entire lead up to their release and the announcement of the lawsuit making the threads fucking unusable with constant spam of off topic shit
notice how quiet and even pleasant the threads became with only minimal tranny attention whoring when all the epochfags made their own gay circlejerk thread
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>>538541710
post gg 4chan in a nutshell
genuine discussion?
not on my watch, have to perpetuate the endless red vs blue installed in our dna thousands of years ago by our ancestors
politics faggots are the worst kind of retards to ever infest this site
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blizzard clawing desperately at private servers as they realize their inferior product is losing to mud-hut developed servers created by orcs and by the end of the year private servers will have more players than official classic
microsoft is going to close the studio soon, GG
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>>538541710
Nigga we are laughing at the retards that thought it wouldn't also happen to them
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>>538541950
I've only been here for 3 weeks since I started playing and the threads are 50% talking about attention whoring trannies by their online handles or long winded arguments about semantics between two insufferable jerkoffs who hate each other. I don't think it's just Epoch players doing this shit and blaming them for the diarrhea flowing in these threads doesn't seem sensible at all.
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So warmeme guild when?
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>>538542629
Everyone hopes it won't happen to them, pray it doesn't for Turtle as well.
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>>538542932
Are you retarded or just being disingenuous
Laughing at the turtle suit is literally still in their OP >>538536195
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>>538543446
OP being a raging faggot (as usual) doesn't mean I'm happy that other people are suffering.
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>>538543446
>pochie
why are private server fags like this
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>>538543446
>very important link
holy based sloppa
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>turtle lawsuited
>everlook folded
>epoch C&D'd
>ascension untouched as the retail WoW dev playground

h-haha hope the Duskhaven development is going well....
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https://www.indiekings.com/2025/09/project-epoch-receives-cease-and-desist.html

Russia will save private servers

Fuck CUckraine and globohomo.
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>>538540697
plap plap plap
theres your dono
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>>538538638
need? no
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>>538542783
This, fuck turtle and fuck vanilla+
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>>538536020
We rolling Alliance this time? Might do a space goat
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plap a nigga
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there goes my life savings (in World of Warcraft)
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>>538445775
SHENNA WON
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>>538546205
theres a price tracker for AH shit in toidle?
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>>538542603
Blizzard will never close. They could fire everyone inside of it and replace them with new people (essentially just making an entirely new studio and slapping the Blizzard logo on it), but the name Blizzard Entertainment has too much brand recognition behind it to ever shut down. As long a there is a video game industry there will be a Blizzard Entertainment.
What really needs to happen is to make people realize that video game companies that have Ship of Theseus'd themselves into unrecognizability should not be treated as the same company that made those games you actually liked all those years ago no matter how much marketers and shareholders try to convince you.
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>>538546547
yes
>BUY BUY BUY
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meanwhile the VVALL remains standing
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>>538546919
where is it?
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>>538545109
I was hoping you were one of the lonely ones
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>>538541329
No one will care buy i found it myself NIGGGGGGGERS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXz1CI9xLco
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>>538547054
on my screen right now. why do you ask?
nigga just use google
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what the fuck does faction leaders drop?
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>>538547683
https://www.wowauctions.net/

You're a cunt, be helpful to others. I'm getting sick of everyone on here constantly acting like a fucking nigger anymore.
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>>538548057
What do you expect from le ebin 4chin passive aggressive culture filled with trannies and furries.
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q up for DMN! NOW!
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>>538548336
queue up for this dick faggot kys
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Was turtle's population hit at all after the lawsuit? I assume some players would just leave out of fear/distrust of the future of the server.
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>>538548631
Pretty sure they just got the epoch population who are feeling the itch really bad. Average third worlder doesnt care about lawsuits against their masters, they just want to play even if the admins are niggers
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>>538548631
Ambie seems as packed as ever but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s been a big dropoff in new accounts.
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>>538548057
I told you how to get that information, not sure what you're malding about. if you choose to complete 3 captchas instead of using basic life skills then that's on you m8
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>>538548742
turtle got the epoch refugees after the failed launch, but the law suit happened more recently. I haven't played turtle for awhile so that's why I'm asking. I suppose something similar will happen to epoch now too. Hope both end up pulling through.
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we are ALL playing Blizzard’s official classic+ when they announce it later this year. only turdies disagree.
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>>538548631
I think Last Sunday's peak was 11k? I don't think there was a major dropoff but it seems to have stabilized.
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>>538549062
turdies will be botting on official classic+ since day one, it's gonna be garbage, but Blizzard will pay streamers to shill it so it will be a success for a month or two.
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>>538548969
I think you mean ascension not epoch, epoch is dead and buried. They closed their realms today or yesterday. I doubt that the lawsuit had that much effect on turtle. They are russian scammers, they dont care. Good luck trying to extradite a russian citizen to american soil because they stole code of a video game
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>>538540867
I agree, orc abs Are erotiko
https://files.catbox.moe/f07gns.png
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>>538548786
>>538549183
That's good, blizzard can go suck a dick.
>>538549314
as far as I know realms are online, don't need to be a lying faggot.
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>>538548631
new server is still peaking at 11k, people (unironic official classic shills) were shitting up the world channel for a bit but got bored, no detectable loss of players and everyone just started saying things like
>"well it's still up after a full week"
certainly a few people packed up, but it was people saying stuff like 'will I get in trouble if I keep playing turtle?'
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>>538548843
Suck on a shitlog you obnoxious jerkoff.
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>>538549541
I was assuming this meant the realms too.
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>>538549790
Kaytotes is a cuck and sent out that message earlier because he wanted to quit and run, Ascension took over fulltime now and are keeping Epoch running
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>>538549574
That makes sense, perhaps it's partly blizzard's strategy, to scare off people from playing there. And lmao at the blizzard shills.
>>538549790
The ascension guy said nothing changes and the servers will still be developed.
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>>538549790
the team is shutting down and ceding everything to ascension, which is what would have happened over the coming months anyway
the server will keep running, although players will probably chafe at being folded into the ascension portfolio no matter what promises are made
you might see a large push by the ascension team to try to get the disillusioned epoch players onto bronzebeard instead
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>>538549761
tranny needs his plapping
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>>538549790
It was just the team members who got a C&D, and only those who were operating in countries like the UK where Blizzard can easily ruin them.
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>>538528858
>New Wrath server
>New class combos
>But its just Paladins Undead and Dwarf Shamans
>But no new Warlock option for Alliance
I just want to play Classic or Wrath as Warlock, but on Alliance and NOT playing as boring humans or (((Gnomes))). Why cant I play as a Draenei Warlock, or Twow add new races or new class combos besides boring undead pala and shammy manlet?
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>>538550376
Honestly they should’ve just ported over the custom dungeons and shit like carts over to BBC from the get go.
There’s no real reason to be running both in tandem, just splitting up the dev team for no good reason.
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>>538550472
twow cant add new class/race combos for a lot of races because vanilla's engine is coded like shit and races have a hard cap on the amount of classes they can be
its why blood elves in tbc couldnt be warriors. the UE5 engine might remove that limit at least
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>>538550472
Dwarf warlocks are cool as fuck but also might be the most forgotten Cata race/class combo. Always seems to get skipped in these servers.
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>>538550518
>Just splitting up the dev team for no good reason.
Until today, Epoch had a seperate dev team, all of their projects have different members.
Now though Ascension are gonna have to find people to work on it and they are gonna use it as an excuse to delay CoA for the 38th time.
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>>538550673
dwarf mage is cooler but also gets slept on, but that's fine, I get to be the only chadmaxxed alliance mage in the game
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guys hold up my healer is oom
>GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG
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>turtle wow unreal patch goes live
>breaks 100k concurrent players
>new stealth patch
>playable satyrs and ogres
would you play, anon?
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>>538550423
>trannies in my thread
>trannies in my mind
>TRANNIES IN MY ASS
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>>538551087
tranny :)
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>>538551018
I will literally quit if the unreal patch goes live. I love the visuals of baked in lighting 2000's games, I hate the way UE5 looks.
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>>538551018
I'm on the Tauri train
Next stop, WoD
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>>538551018
helf like everyone else who thinks they want playable meme races
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Taking down private servers isn't going to work, all that will happen is some will setup in places out of the reach of Blizzard and then all the players will go there.

All they are doing is making a private server more profitable, due to getting rid of the competition.
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>>538551260
it’s going to be a completely optional toggle though anon
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>>538550518
Epoch and Bronzebeard are nothing alike and if they did that it would not make me play that zoom zoom retail dogshit they are trying to sell as "classic+"
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>leveling warrior on Turtle
>6-10 is abysmally bad, literally have to eat after every mob 2 levels below me
>get dual-wield
>buy a 5 DPS sword
>kill time goes down by 80%
>with double the rage gains

That's it I'm leveling as Fury Dual Wielding, I don't care I miss 70% of my offhand attacks it feels so much better than the MISS MISS PARRY DODGE MISS PARRY PARRY DODGE MISS snoreplay of Arms
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jesus christ Balor is miserable to quest in
>sunken ship full of ghosts that can chain silences together and have high resistances for all magic types
>pain in the ass to get to, can't swim in directly because it's nestled between two steep rocks in the water, have to go around the island and drop down from above

>then a quest to collect THIRTY eyes from warlocks that give you a shadow resist debuff and cast voidbolt, even without the debuff shit is hitting for almost 200 a pop
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>>538548162
aww sorry honey did I hurt your girlfriend (male) in front of you? :)
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>>538551517
I leveled warrior to 26 on Ambershite and it was really easy. Turtle gives you rings and shit early. Plus tents. Come on. I did lack a good 2H from like level 9 to 15 tho. Quest in Darkshore sorted me out.
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>>538551517
now try levelling a druid and being stuck being a really shitty mage that can't make your own water until 10, and then stuck as a really slow and shitty warrior until you hit 20 when you FINALLY get the ability to kill shit quickly
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>>538551517
dual wield is unironically the best way to level war on turtle, especially since they actually get some self sustain late into fury
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i cant believe people cry about leveling any class in vanilla
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>>538551018
Uninstalling when they mandate the UE5 client.
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>>538553035
yeah, i thought being slow and tedious was the point of vanilla servers anyway. dudes should play on retail if they can't handle it.
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>>538551626
>get to grim reaches
>quests are pretty fine
>get a quest to kill some dark irons
>no problem
>get to the area
>warlock npcs that cast shadow bolt VOLLEY causing people to grief each other if 2 people pull them
>mage npcs that cast an arcane bolt for 200 and arcane explosion for 200
>rogues that gouge you
entire zone is great except for that place, fuck that place
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>>538553742
The one thing I am continually noticing and getting annoyed at in the new zones are the amount of narrow pathways you have to take to reach certain spots that are full of enemies. Vanilla zones don't really do this for the most part, you can usually approach areas from multiple sides easily. It's almost like an open air cave, and it's especially bad with how rapid the spawns are and how enemies aggro immediately upon spawning.
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>epoch makes changes because "vanilla is too easy guys amiright"
>getting three-tapped by casters as a shaman
ah yes because the solution to "vanilla too easy" is to inflate damage numbers. trash garbage fuckin server made by people who probably got boosted by mages.
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>>538548162
>>538551087
What's the matter bitch, nothing more to say? Did you get all intimidated and scared by a real man that easily?
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>>538551626
>>538553742
>>538554154

what is it about custom content private servers that seems to make them absolutely fumble the shit out of what made vanilla design good?
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>>538554259
calling it too easy is kinda retarded in the first place, WoW is a resource conserving game where you die if you pull more than you can handle, there's not really much skill involved in a 1v1 mob fight if you go into it with fullish health/mana unless you destroy your keyboard by drooling on it or something
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>>538554314
nigga go outside
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>>538554259
>>538554510
>people want to make vanilla "harder" instead of just playing a game thats designed to be difficult
it really is a special brand of autism
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Ok guys I'm borderline at my limit of dropping this game. I'm level 41 paly (building ret) and I afk just for a few seconds to open something to eat. Immediately getting ganked by level 39 rogue (fuck my luck right). Fight the bitch off pretty good despite the constant cc, vanishes and general misery of that shitty class. Just as I'm about to end it she vanishes. I'm low health, I've used my bubble and potion.
I die to a rogue. Again. I'm faaaar from some veteran, but this is humiliating at this point.

Like what the fuck can you do against that broken class anons. An don't be smartasses and say it ain't so, cause I looked up on the internet and half of the playerbase or something are bitching about them and saying they've always been like that.
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>>538543857
Duskhaven was bought by turtle, hence the new zones they added being from duskhaven
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>>538554735
>Vanishes
>Pop consecrate
>Immediately break stealth on next tick
bruh
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I just dont care enough to directly answer to a tranny bait. Seek sunlight you fucking troglodyte
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>>538554735
>playing on pvp servers
getting assraped by rogues is part of the experience :^)
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>>538554735
>fotm retnigger cant kill a rogue
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>>538554735
this is why I never engaged in wpvp ever
>buff a bunch of people outside a dungeon
>get flagged for pvp because of it
>whatever
>go to the bathroom
>come back and 3 gnomes are butchering my clearly afk ass while spamming /spit and /laugh
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>>538554908
>>538554639
You whine and cry for your fucking baby bottle and when someone doesn't immediately snap to it and give you it you cry even harder. Pathetic, run and hide forever you dickless numale. Maybe try googling an argument next time before you get humiliated.
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>>538554735
>play on pvp server
>complain about pvp
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>requires 300 engi to use
>reagents + schematic cost 350g
>sells for 800g on the AH
imagine being stupid enough to buy this shit lol
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>>538555868
mfw I never, ever made anything higher than Heavy Leather because deeprock salt was such a bitch to get
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>>538555250
>still pulling this keyboard warrior "alpha male" shit in the year of our lord 2025
ooga booga you mouthbreathing retard nigger, go outside and practice your gorilla warfare
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>>538554735
>broken pink pet class dies in a 1v1
If this was 2004 you'd be on the forums pissing and moaning with the rest of your faggot ilk, but instead you are here. So I'll tell you to fuck off and kys you fagadin cunt. I hope you do drop the game, one less of you cucks running around taking up space
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>>538554735
>they've always been like that.
Rogues are the god kings of open world pvp. Especially in vanilla but also in TBC. A good rogue will shit on you. Geared warriors can rape them tho...overpower is a bitch.
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>>538554259
let's not forget mobs running at kenyan speeds towards the nearest ally regardless of hp levels, meaning if you have no form of CC you're fucked
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>>538557067
>>538554720
>>538554259
5 rupees from Shenna were deposited saar
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>>538554735
lol paladins really are just failed warriors
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>>538557436
epic shitpost bro i'm sure it'll make you feel better about your server crashing and burning
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>Epoch getting handed over to Ascension
so how long til they shove their fucked up core into the rotting corpse's anus and I can't play rogue anymore due to stealth being useless
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>>538554735
Rogues are bitches who will vanish as soon as it looks like they're going to lose. It's not worth engaging them. Your bubble is there for you to pop it, then activate your hearthstone within 2 seconds to make the Rogue seethe as you bubblehearth away.
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>knight in shining armor gets ganked
>has a reddit melty
pppffffffffffhahahahahahahaha
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>>538558343
rogue on Buck Breaker is quite good rn
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everlookbros, i
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>>538558193
Epoch isn’t going down. Did Shenna forget to update your script?
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>>538554827
Is that a valid option? I mean it makes sense. Why didn't I think about it? I guess even a rank 1 Consecrate would do the trick because the spell burns a lot of mana.
Thanks anon.

>>538555663
>retard puts words and assumes I complain about pvp in general
>when I mentioned only rogues in my post
>???
>profit
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>>538558526
>implying i'm talking about the C&D and not the dogshit changes
keep fighting those boogeymen though i'm sure it'll be true sometime
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>>538558585
You also have lay on hands as a get out of jail free card
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>>538558501
tried to play it and shit would just aggro instantly regardless of positioning. even with points in master of deception it's like the mobs there skip the "alerted" phase and just jump straight into mogging my ass if i'm within 20 fucking miles of the vicinity
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>>538558651
The changes are great. Get a new script already.
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>>538558895
having no problems with that, git gud
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>>538558585
yea if the fag tries to vanish you IMMEDIATELY pop r1 consecrate to knock him out of it, same thing if you are ever playing any class with aoe, immediately dump whatever you can for as little mana as possible to tag the bitch and break his stealth
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>>538558987
enjoy uncritically sucking that epoch cock i guess
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>>538557436
i wanna deposit my rupee into shenna
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>>538559336
Concession accepted.
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>anon complains about rogue opportunistic faggishness which has been a problem for over 20 years and seeks help learning how to counter it
>half the replies are just mocking him and acting like sadistic cunts for no reason

>other anon highlights specific issues with epoch
>faggots just baselessly and nonsensically accuse him of being some clandestine agent for the tranny running another server
>then mindlessly spam git gud when that doesn't work

nobody on this shithole or it's sister board /v/ is capable of having a conversation anymore, everything is just an attempt to be le ebin asshole man 24/7
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>paladins really think they are the main character when they shit and piss their pants when faced with any kind of adversity
you are the annoying little brother that mom forces your older sibling to include when hes with his friends
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>>538559696
>mocking him and acting like sadistic cunts for no reason
he's a pink, that's the only reason anyone needs to shit on him
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>>538559696
Correct newfriend, now go back to plebbit with your micropenis tucked between your legs.
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>>538559696
>for no reason
He's playing alliance on a PvP server. He's been told several times and ignored it so he deserves to suffer for his own retardation.
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I just finished the quests in gilneas, the zone is pretty great, I particularly like the weirdo cultists in the middle of the zone and the other worgen cultist/researchers in that graveyard.

I had to laugh at the greymane questline though. one of them explains what happened to genn greymane, his wife was killed during some kind of public unrest leading to genn becoming a schizo. The funny part is that's like identical to the story of varian's wife in the legit lore, she got killed during some defias riot after one of them threw a rock that smacked her in the head.
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Dragunovi here. We've seen your community discussions and will take into serious consideration to buff paladins next update since they basically have no real counterplay versus rogues at the moment. We're also removing Vanish from rogues their toolkit and replacing it with the Wet Noodle ability (puts a 0.03% damage debuff on the enemy target) (available as a rank 9 Subtelty talent (15 ranks))
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>>538559696
>play on a pvp server
>complain when pvp happens
The solution is to not play on a pvp server retard, how many freshes do you brain dead indians need to learn
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>>538559696
nice try Shenna
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>>538559696
you're alright, anon. 4chan was never good but it really went to shit after all the retard tourists infesting /pol/ broke containment
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sup crackas
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>>538558684
I used that too and that was when I flipped the table and started cornering the cheap sneaky bitch. It's a nice "reverse uno" spell ngl.

>>538559260
I feel stupid for not thinking about it. Thanks again anon.
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>retard paladin doesn't know how to use his spells
>everyone rightfully calling him garbage
>only person with sympathy is another mouthbreathing pink

apes together strong
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>>538560892
>>538559696
samefag bitch get the FUCK out
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>>538559696
Paladins are hilariously busted and the most played class on troondle wow. Rogues are based for keeping them honest
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>>538561203
>dumb nigger spends so much time on 4chan he legitimately thinks it's impossible for more than one person in the thread to have a sense of empathy
sad
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>>538560492
Also I will be adding pronouns to all classes since I've decided to come out at trans today (paladin/trans lives matter), in addition to some much needed warrior nerfs
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>>538561353
Yes, why does no one have sympathy for the overpowered class that 50% of the server plays. What a mystery
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GAS THE PINKS

CLASS WAR NOW
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>>538561353
THIS IS FUCKING 4CHAN, THERE IS NO EMPATHY HERE, GO THE FUCK BACK
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>troon based troon based based based troon troon based tranny based troon based
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>pinky has a sook because his god class got rekt
>entire thread dunks on him
Pretty based ngl
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Just play rogue lol why fight it?

Join the master race/class
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>>538554735
bet your little pink pussy ass regrets opening your fat fucking mouth now kek

>>538561353
>>538560892
>noooo please please feel bad for me you must feel empathy for me because...you just have to ok???
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>>538561669
thanks for outing yourself as a newfag tourist, retard
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hehe
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seriously why are paladin players always such insufferable faggots?
I had a paladin invite me to kill an elite quest mob, there was another paladin on the other side of the zone in the group. So I pull the quest mob, and the one that invited me says "my friend needs the quest too" AFTER I fucking pulled it, then says "wtf are you doing" and stands there doing nothing letting me die so his other faggot pinkie friend can also get the tag.

ALL fucking pinkies MUST fucking HANG
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>>538560480
It's overall very solid. Definitely beats balor's quest design, but I imagine they were mostly focused on the dungeon, which is in turn better than greymane castle in my opinion. I didn't mind genn being the boss, since I never really liked him in retail.

Since you mentioned Anduin's mother, I liked the Northwind bit about his grandma still being around, but prohibited from entering Stormwind castle, so you help her make a goodie bag and smuggle it in for her.
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>>538562073
>>538561505
>ignoring the point of the post to tunnel vision on dumbass class faggotry
nignog behavior, seek help
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hunter weapon
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>pinkie still crying
KEK

let's bully him harder guys, make sure he knows he isn't welcome here, he isn't among friends, he's something to be abused and ridiculed for our pleasure

no amount of tears is going to get that rogue cock out of your ass
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>>538562265
>pinkpill troon crying that no one feels bad that he doesn't know how to play his own class
Unflag then retard, why did you sign up for wpvp
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>>538562262
yeah northwind and gilneas would both be S tiers for me in a ranking of vanilla wow zones. Quests laid out well and plenty of them, cool themes, look great, and the quest text is mostly great better even than real vanilla quests.
I bounced off balor hard though.
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>>538562231
>dont check to make sure everyone is ready
>autistically refuse to communicate with others and act selfishly
>die like a retard
>blame others for it
>swear a vendetta against people who weren't even related to the incident whatsoever because you shot yourself in the foot
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>>538562231
Your fault for grouping with a pinky. Unironically it's your duty to ignore them and pretend they don't exist. Group with them in the open world if you absolutely must (ie there's literally nobody else around) but for dungeons you are just asking for a bad time. Better to skip than capitulate and invite them
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>>538551018
they're not going to make it before the end of the week if blizzard has anything to say about it
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>>538562810
(they don't)
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>>538553742
I skipped all that shit as stealth cat but I imagine I would be pissed as well
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>>538561254
shaman and pally are both fucking unstoppable monsters in pvp so seeing a pinkie bubble boy whining about being killed by a rogue is cathartic
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>>538561505
>overpowered
You mean rogues? Because they've never stopped being super viable and pvp kings especially after cata. Just because you main rogue doesn't stop others considering your class overtuned as fuck and cared by blizzard. Hell, World of Roguecraft exists. Shut the fuck up.
Now either drop to your knees and suck my dick or vanish away like the coward bitch you rogues are.
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>>538563058
uh oh pinky stinky
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>>538563058
the pinky bitch is back lmao, finally go heated and upset enough to reply again? How flustered are you? Getting a nice headache from being so embarrassed?
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>>538563058
>pink nigger has a meltie that his protagonist class doesnt swat rogues out of existence like a fucking bug zapper
sorry you might need to actually use what remains of your frontal lobe instead of clicking holy strike twice
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>>538554735
spec deep enough into holy for the 2 main healing talents, one is fast holy light after judging the other is -75% interruption on dmg.
learn to fake out or pick up the furlbog rod, so many dumbfucks kick into it and make a /cancel macro into holy light so you can infinite heal

also pack a heavy hitting 1hander and a good shield, nothing fucks rogue more than having baseline 50-60% dmg mitigation, judge wisdom on the rogue and only hammer if he evasions or you absolutely need it for some breath room.

also go engy for nades and nets and keep 1 large healing potion for emergency, put a shield spike on your beefy shield you should ALWAYS have a relevant leveled shield as you lvl
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>>538563058
I know right? I think they need to nerf rogues again and buff paladins. 50% of alliance players being paladin clearly shows that paladin is underpowered, if paladins were actually viable it would be at LEAST 80% because who wouldn't want to play a glorious paladin?!?!?!
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>>538562231
because theres a 99.9% chance they are brown
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imagine getting all the preferential treatment from the devs and STILL menstruating about losing a 1v1
paladins really are just histrionic faggots to be avoided at all costs
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>>538563392
dont give that stupid piece of faggot shit actual advice, let him suffer and seethe like the human garbage he is
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>>538563192
>>538563271
Are you gonna fuck each other now since you clearly can't reply and are schizofags on top of that, faggots?
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>>538563058
Please actually kill yourself, you're playing the best class in pvp. This is Turtle WoW balance, not Vanilla WoW when your retarded ass brings up World of Roguecraft from 2006.
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>>538562543
Balor is shit but it has fantastic questline for Horde players, Kilrogg and Vol'Jin's son and Horde pride and all that cool stuff
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>>538562543
Same, it was quite the dramatic shift, but at least I was motivated thanks to the setup from northwind. Might going to skip the quest chain on my alt, since the probably best reward you get is the insane rifle and I just happened to play hunter while going through it.
Maybe they want classes that have utility for water traversal to shine and keep swim speed potions relevant, but maybe just a little qol in that regard would have been nice. I used hearth pretty often to get back to SW, since it would simply be faster.
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>>538554735
>>538563392
OH ALSO LAST THING
ALWAYS HAVE RANK 1 CONSECRATION ON YOUR BARS!!!!!! as you level higher it takes virtually no mana for rank 1 and you can sit on it forever fucking his opener or spooking him from opening properly

blessing of wisdom is also your friend if the rogue is a major league faggot popping all cooldowns for 1 HKs, you have to do what you can to win the battle of attrition and pally always comes out on top if you're mentally and cooldown prepared for his bullshit.

devo aura always for rogue
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>>538563635
You upset that you aren't gonna be fucked? Oops you already were by the rogue haha #rekt #justcuckadinthings #pinkandproud
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>>538563707
SHUT UP STOP HELPING HIM ONLY HURT HIM
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>>538563701
That's nice. I was wondering if Horde also gets some cool stuff with established characters.
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>>538563868
my bad
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>didnt believe posts from a few threads ago saying pallies were literal protagonist syndrome retards
>seeing these posts
>watching the 3 pally dps in a random dungeon group argue over drops and who needs an item more to "look cool"
>including 2 people from the same fucking scarlet crusade guild fighting over herod drops because they need their arr pee outfit (the same shit every deus vult unfunny nigger has worn for 20 years)
i cant even escape these fags on horde
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Hey guys, what's going on in this threa-
>apeniggers chimping out
Never mind see y'all tomorrow
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>>538563987
>]
I'm about to level a new paladin on ambershire and I will be kicking every single war/pal from my groups and turning on masterloot for mobs where a hunter might try to nab my shit.

but i'm also not retarded and knwo how to tank, top dps and outheal the healer all at once
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>>538564024
everyone can tell who you are, pinkshit
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>>538564149
>ooga booga boogeyman
stay paranoid apenigger
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>>538563658
Nta but do you have a metric for that? For real. Just because ret isn't shit and a meme like it was in vanilla/classic and is now actually viable in raids and whatnot, doesn't make it broken. Let's see that source of the "best pvp class" in turtle.
Because we already know how good rogues were/are in pvp and the pain they can bring in the hands of a skilled player. Let's see about the other side.
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>>538546701
wtf
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Did they nerf purge and dispel magic? They have a cooldown or something?

If that's true doesn't that make prot warriors one of the best dispellers now since shield slam is a 100% dispel on a 4.5sec cd that does damage?
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>>538564301
Is this the first time you've played Turtle, the server has been here for years so people saying Paladin is the best class isn't something out of left field. Half the server plays one for a reason
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>>538564441
no
because purge and dispel can be done from range and doesn't require you going deep into the shittiest spec in the game for pvp
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>>538564301
>do you have a metric for that
also not that anon but yeah its called playing horde on nordanaar and groaning when 30 screaming pink retards bubble up and one shot healers with holy strike and take 2 full minutes to kill
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>>538564326
DJ was throwing a party in booty bay and turned people into oomkins, since he gets to do the set on a gm account. He's a bit of a sperg, but in the endearing kind of way.
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>>538564683
>doesn't require you going deep into the shittiest spec in the game for pvp
how bad is it really? I have been doing a few bgs for laughs while leveling and despite being only level 44 I was in the top 3 on kbs in most of them. shield slam does serious damage now that it scales with ap and concussion blow being free is like having kidney shot that does damage and generates rage.

of course the players on turtle seem to be dogshit, I 1v1'd a level 48 warrior that was in full dungeon blues and took almost no damage because he was literally keyboard turning while backpedaling trying to hit me.
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>pinks and yellows having pissy baby slapfights again
heh... stay mad plebs
*makes 200g an hour pressing one button*
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>>538565081
>another kb hero
topping KB as a war takes zero effort just execute while others do all the work for you also prot sucks ass because any enemy rogue or war with a brain is going to sunder you and turn you into a mage who does no dmg and has no mobility
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What’s the horde equivalent to male human ret paladin scarlet crusade RPers?
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>>538565860
thrall/garrosh jr enhance shamans who take pvp overly serious
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>>538565860
Male orc warrior that's somehow related to every famous orc or male Undead with some RP about his former human life
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>>538565623
>any enemy rogue or war with a brain is going to sunder you
what do you even mean by this, sunder is most effective against lower armor classes because of the diminishing return on armor rating.

> turn you into a mage who does no dmg and has no mobility
you have the same mobility as an arms warrior though, better even with the intereve talent. And the damage seems pretty good from my experience so far, but who knows with endgame gear.

the fact that you didn't even mention the real major downside of not having mortal strike healing debuff leads me to believe you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>538565860
horde RPer here telling you the closest youll get are orcs who think theyre basically garrosh 2 and those are pretty rare compared to the endless tides of scarlet/strom totally-not-LARPing-crusader types on the alliance
90% of the time those types of people dont even like playing as or even RPing with the horde because theyre icky and ugly
it became a hobby of mine to look at TRP profiles of people and seeing what shit they blatantly copied from game of thrones or dragon age
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>>538566139
I dont even play horde but orc warriors are based. Undead whatever is probably closer to the cringe ret paladin shit
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>>538565607
I've gooned to this image when I was 12
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Travel to the Wyrmbog in Dustwallow Marsh. Find the ancient drake, Emberstrife and beat him without mercy until his will is broken.
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>>538566213
I ‘member all the Kor’kron guilds on Wyrmrest
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>>538562892
this guy clearly hasn't been reading the news, turtle is donezo
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>>538567109
nothing ever happens
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>thread only comes to life when its faggots dogpiling someone for having trouble with pvp
>dies immediately afterwards when there is nothing for the maladjusted sociopaths to rant at
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>>538567281
Bro can you stop crying about being le hecking cyberbullied already
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>frog tourist
>retarded
Name a more iconic duo.
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>pink bitch is back for more gaping
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>>538567440
anime and brown manlets
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>See this coming at you in Stranglethorn Vale
>You're a mighty paladin of the Alliance
What do?
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>>538567853
one of us is getting raped
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Epoch refugee here, should I join <Evil> or <Branded>?
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>>538567853
turn 360 degrees and bubblehearth away
and then complain about it on a zimbabwean tapdancing forum
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>>538567976
On character on Evil to raid, one character on Branded to ERP, like everyone else
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>>538566153
ah no wonder your peak pvp experience is stealing kills and barely beating a keyboard turner
lmao
also I didn't mention MS because its a braindead given you stupid fuck, quit being useless garbage for your teams.
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>>538567853
>ai goonslop
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>>538567853
why are people always creating ai pics with the same dumbass phone game looking faces? there are LoRAs you know...
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>>538565860
Forsaken nothingpersonals
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>chat banned for 20 minutes for playing the anal game
Turtle is so fucking gay sometimes, dude
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>>538568254
You don't understand how armor in wow works and are very embarrassed by it.
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>>538568580
>ai-jeet thinks he has standards
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>>538568692
whatever you say gay boy
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>>538568580
such as...?
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>log in
>"any1 for elites?"
>elite spawns surrounded by non-HCs
>tag it with exorcism and get a free turn in
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>>538568978
armor has a diminishing return, the more of it you have the less mitigation it provides per point. going from 0 to 100 armor has way more effect than going from 3000 to 3100 armor. That means that a sunder or expose that reduces 1000 armor is most effective when used against a target that has exactly 1000 armor, and gets increasingly less effective the more armor over 1000 the target has.

Flat armor reducing effects like vanilla sunder are therefore most effective against cloth wearers, and the least effective and least worth using against plate wearing shield classes like a prot warrior. A rogue would be much better off using garrote and rupture while kiting than trying to 1v1 a full armor protection warrior that's also going to be blocking and avoiding a substantial amount of their attacks.

No charge required for this little bit of pvp education for you, friend :)
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>>538567853
i'm not a paladin, though
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what class should i play on ambie
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>>538568580
I'm using a lora.
>>538569487
What would you do then with your class?
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>>538569397
Why do people like you have this insistence on being smug little patronizing cunts instead of just sharing your knowledge with him?
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>>538569601
everything is ok for pve, even arcane mage, hunter melee or shaman tank
shaman or paladin for pvp
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>>538569640
probably because he was being a smug patronizing cunt to me, while also being totally wrong making it particularly egregious. lmao
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>>538569613
>turn her into a sheep
>pretend I'm muslim
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>>538569397
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>>538559696
>complain about rogues
>rogues are in a weak state
>literally calling yourself out for being a turbo faggot
>ishyddt
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What should I spend my slow and steady dono coins on?
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>>538569397
>tell the truth and own this gay boy after he proves how bad he is
>he writes a novel
lmao
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someone tell me what alliance race is best for a pvp priest, they nerfed spirit regen while casting, buffed feedback and desperate prayer is inherently strong so human seems very good.

The night elf bow thing is a total curveball though, it could be trash or amazing. The increased casting speed for nevles is decent but meh, starshards is a very situational dps spell which is probably not amazing for a healer, and the searing arrow thing depends entirely on how good or bad bows are. And they completely removed elune's grace correct?

High elf base racials pretty much suck in general, their priest racials don't seem great either. 10% casting speed cd is nothing amazing and I guess the mana cost thing might be decent for a smite build or something? Helf seems weakest despite literally every priest I see being a helf.
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>>538572248
>human
probably the best because perception gives 2% fucking crit or some whack shit

>nelf
lack of casting bows kinda hurts them but searing shot and starshards FUCKING HURT and that you can weave casting and bow shots as spells dont reset your swing timer. elunes grace is gone

>helf
on paper good for disc but they absolutely are the weakest

>dwarf
avatar is fucking stupid if you know who to cast it on and can completely turn around fights
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>>538569397
>dumb fuck retard has 55% mitigation on his paperoll sheet
>get sundered 5 times
>now dumb fuck retard is at 20% mitigation
simple as
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>>538569725
thanks for the non-answer FAG
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>>538572638
>you can weave casting and bow shots as spells dont reset your swing timer.
such an odd thing, has this mechanical interaction existed in wow anywhere else? It makes them so difficult to evaluate. I thought there might be a bow with just stamina or something but you are right that almost all of them have agility and ranged ap which is fairly useless.
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>>538573019
your unironic BiS bow is a boe drop from black morass that people are all too happy to charge a billion fucking gold for
>has this mechanical interaction existed anywhere else
sorta with melee weaving in tbc as hunters since melee/range swingtimers were individual
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WHEN YOU COME TO IT
AND YOU CAN’T GO THROUGH IT
AND YOU CAN’T KNOCK IT DOWN
YOU KNOW THAT YOU FOUND
THE VVALL
THE VVALL
THE VVALL
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>>538573142
>your unironic BiS bow is a boe drop from black morass that people are all too happy to charge a billion fucking gold for
lmao brutal. I will probably try it just to try it since it's so unique.
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>>538569613
>>538567853
which lora
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>>538569601
Rogue
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I want to keep playing. How long does the server restart take?
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>>538573248
THE VVALL COMES FOR US ALL
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>>538574218
>restart
i have news for you
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>>538568695
Come on dog...
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TURTLE SERVERS ARE OFFICIALLY DOWN
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its over isnt it bros...
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Turtle is back up btw
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wtf where did all my level 60 naxx geared characters go? It says they are logged in if I friend add them but they are not on my character screen any more????
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>>538577194
all lvl 60's were deleted to make more room for the database
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It's looking bad for turtle. It's not even Torta posting changelog anymore and the changelog is like 10 lines of simple bug fix.
https://forum.turtle-wow.org/viewtopic.php?t=21814
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>>538580773
>they caught shenna
no
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>i-its looking b-bad for t-turtle

epochniggers not once
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>a guy wanted someone to make bags
>he went and bought the mats which are more costly than just buying the bag
>game me the mats and 2g
>wondered around for a few minutes while I made them

Uuhhhhhh? I covered the rune thread tho kek
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>>538584973
some people REALLY like the act of trading and getting things crafted, don't question that shit just enjoy the free gold
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Any guilds right now running 60 dungeons? I’m in a guild right now that has officers who aren’t even level 60 yet and people playing alts.
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>>538584973
>go check steel bar prices to see if theyre more profitable than iron
>theyre somehow less profitable because people are selling them for about 8s each
>coal costs 5s before discounts
>iron bars were 5s each
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>>538585457
That's the chinese. They do that shit on every server, undercutting everything until they're selling at a loss.
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>epoch is kill
"no"
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>>538586567
>turtle gets sued
>epoop shuts down
Perfect ending to that clown show. Youtube historians will be eating good.
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>>538586827
>>epoop shuts down
Nice reading comprehension. Maybe one day a youtuber will explain it to you.
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>>538586827
>turtle gets sued
And it doesn't matter because Shenna is Russian.
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>>538535105
Because they can...

https://www.polygon.com/23695923/mtg-aftermath-pinkerton-raid-leaked-cards/
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>>538584973
he is trying to plap you, dummy
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>>538554735
what version of the game are you playing?
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Anyone farm ZG mining nodes? How the fuck do you reliably get that one node with the 2trolls+2tigers solo on rogue? Is my only option to mount up and kite them back to raised tiger area, jump up there, and run over? Because I've yet to do that and get full dinks on the node, and I can't do it reliably.
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How do i fight the desire to give up on leveling at 53
Theres not enough quests in each zone and im too low level to start doing the dungeons that give good gear
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>>538554735
You should have a good chance vs Rogue as a paladin, have poison dispel and dispel CC with bubble, plate armor. In vanilla there is typically some kind of trinket that does what your class cannot, like there is a trinket from Sunken Temple that does an AOE poison dot around you.
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>>538590276
You're almost to the point of leveling through gear farming. Why would you quit there
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the turtle website redesign is nice
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where can i find some ERPers in Turtle? Goldshire is deserted.
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>>538591706
ask anyone from <Branded> or go ask in /heals/
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>>538590276
you get everything you need from hateforge quarry and blackrock depths yet?
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>>538591876
is <Branded> in Ambershire only? i'm in nordanaar, thanks.
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>>538591706
>>538592395
Download TurtleRP and then browse the directory for people who obviously ERP, then /whisper them.
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>>538591668
>Every class and specialization has been shown some extra love, with new and reworked talents, abilities, and interactions allowing every playstyle to shine while staying true to the Vanilla WoW spirit of unique class identity.
kek did they forget prot warrior is a thing?
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>>538593267
It's fairly buffed from its vanilla root
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>>538593527
it's absolutely nerfed from its vanilla roots
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>>538588104
version 9000
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>>538593630
>toughness buffed
>imp revenge buffed
>imp disarm buffed
>imp shield bash buffed
>imp shield wall buffed
>concussion blow huge buffed
>shield slam giga-buffed
>new defensive tactics talent allowing tanking in other stances
literally every talent was either buffed or unchanged, the only thing they removed was improved shield block but they really just changed it to improved shield slam.
In what universe is this considered nerfed?
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>get asked to tank SM
>walk up
>orc huntard leaves group to go play with his friend
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>>538594694
>we lost 1 dps for our low level dungeon
ok? I 3 manned an entire SM cath with warrior tank, paladin healer and level 36 frost mage dps after 2 dps left. It was barely any different than doing it normally other than being a few minutes slower.
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>>538594823
We're hardcores, I'm bubble hearthing at the first sign of trouble.
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>>538595169
Unless they are total retards 99% of the responsibility for avoiding wipes is in your hands as the tank. and unless you are retarded its trivially easy to make every pull in SM with near zero risk.
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>turtle custom quest in tanaris to get item from an air elemental
>there are 4 mob spawns in the entire zone
>they gave the item an 18% drop rate

literally what the fuck were they thinking. every spawn is camped by 5 people.
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>>538595729
same reason torta egg was like 11% but during the first 2 weeks every naga spawn was perma camped
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>was misreading guy in my guild's name the whole time
>it's basically "good go y" I can't remember if goy was wordfiltered
Which one of you fucks is this?
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If I make a human paladin using the whitemane skin will you guys still play with me?
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>>538597149
>not a priest
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>>538597149
>pinkie
>playing whitemane as a pinkie
automatic ignore list
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>>538597264
>>538597381
What if I wear the whitemane outfit too?
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>Tauri hasn't put the WoD client up for preload
but why
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>>538597467
possibly acceptable if you only play holy for the lifetime of the character.
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>>538597920
Alright deal
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Did Library and Armory. Got ONE piece of gear BAKA my head
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>>538601041
that's the best one other than the shield, stop complaining.
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>>538601129
No, I deserve full scarlet and zerker helm and Herod shoulder and ravager from one run.
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man silithus really is the best zone in wow. to this day through every expansion it's the only zone that ever felt legitimately intimidating, mysterious, dangerous. C'thun and the qiraji are unironically the best antagonists in wow for that reason. every other old god felt like a copycat and were overexplained. A freakish lovecraftian monster just existing in a cartoon fantasy world with almost no explanation is pure kino.
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Did everyone move to ambershire?
I miss being able to pick up guys in goldshire for a quick fuck
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>>538593267
The original had something like
>Paladins
>its common knowledge this class was very underpowered and unfinished in vanilla
>Warrior
>lets be honest, warrior is straight up broken in vanilla. Its op
Bit on the nose, innit?
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>>538470451
Downloaded and git cloned the turtlerp bundle and it seems to be non functional? Everything is broken and anything i do throws out an error>>538470451
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>>538601041
Don't tell me you're one of those people who farmed SM for weeks to get the tabard because it was literally the only green-quality one out there
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>>538603184
>Warrior OP!
This is a sure fire way, somebody just does not get classic. They never even intended for it to be balanced in a way where everyone parses raid boss damage exactly the same.
i.e being ranged is just plain better than better than being melee so melee only classes make up for it by having insane dmg like Warrior or 10 years of CC like Rogue.
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>>538605208
I think it's more likely they simply didn't expect players to autistically stack a billion world buffs and consumables. warrior goes to the dps moon because of how rage works, they very obviously did not plan out the scenario of having 3x the stats of a base character via absurd buffs in the formula for rage, because why would they and how could they?
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>>538536020
How are they addressing dogshit legendary RNG and artifact power gains and multispecs?
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A panda named Pearl.
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>>538602332
Can't say I didn't enjoy Yogg but it's all downhill from there
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>>538603101
idk nord never really had that
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Saving Marshal Windsor Edition

>News
09/09/2025: Kaytoted BTFO'd by C&D, Ascension took over Epoch.
30/08/2025 : Blizzard is taking legal action against Turtle. This doesn't stop the server, but it may impact some individuals working for Turtle under US jurisdiction ( https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127.1.0.pdf )
17/08/2025 : Turtle's new realm Ambershire is out along Epoch's Kezan, Gurubashi and Menethil!

>Released Servers ranked by current global popularity
Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+)
Project Epoch - https://www.project-epoch.net/ (Vanilla+)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (TBC, WOTLK, MoP)
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Classless, Reborn Classic+, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (MoP, pre-patch and WoD areas in near future)
Mistblade 3 (Sheilun) - https://stormforge.gg/en (MOP Progressive)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)
Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive)

>Guilds
To join a guild, type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, and whisper anyone for an invite once you're above level 5.
<Evil> - Turtle WoW, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, /wpsg/'s guild
<Branded> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, /heals/'s guild (ERP) >>>/trash/heals
<Full Moon Company> - Turtle WoW, Nordanaar realm, crossfaction
<Totally Nice Dudes> - Bronzebeard+, Ascension, whisper Kott

>Turtle
All Turtle addons (copy & paste github links on the launcher) - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtle-wow.org | https://talents.turtle-wow.org | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtle-timer.vercel.app

>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/4Awe3bxX

>Previous Thread
>>538445775
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>>538606971
based retard
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>>538606971
OH NO NO NO NO NO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>538606971
Impressive. Most impressive
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>>538605861
I don't think they cared that much, balancing seemed to be more about PVP, i remember forums were constantly filled with people whining that a class was OP because someone killed them in PVP and in PVE you only use like 10% of your class abilities anyway.

Either way somebody killing a raid boss too easily doesn't really affect you as much.
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>>538607312
they cared enough to prevent one class from doing twice the dps of the next most competitive class. It's simply impossible to balance warriors in that way with vanilla rage though. warriors are a resource limited class like rogues, but their resource scales with their gear unlike rogues aka they scale exponentially with gear. That's an inherently uncontrollable situation when gigantic variance in character power exists like it does in the form of vanilla world buffs and consumes.

All of this is why they have been changing how rage works in almost every expansion since vanilla, it was simply a bad system in the first place. They probably should have just given warriors energy and hunters for that matter.
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>>538606971
aecheur-sama...
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>>538607618
rage is just a garbo resource in general but rage isn't what made warriors OP in end-game gear, lol.

on turtle rage is normalized yet warriors don't trash the meters at every level.
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>>538608208
>rage is just a garbo resource in general but rage isn't what made warriors OP in end-game gear, lol.
that's exactly what it is and what it has always been, this isn't a secret. why do you think warriors do shit dps at low gear levels and extremely high dps with good gear? Their abilities don't do exponential damage, why do they outscale everything by a huge margin?

It's because increasing their dps increases their rage generation which further increases their dps. Their dps increases exponentially with gear unlike any other class, the only ceiling to this scaling is when they generate so much rage they become gcd locked and have effectively infinite rage negating the resource management aspect of the class entirely. Which is the other problem with rage blizzard has been battling for years.
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>>538607618
Warrior should be the best scaling dps in the game considering it can't bubble, cant heal, doesnt have range, cant go invisible, relies the most on support etc. It's your reward for slogging through leveling and gearing up against the plethora of other warrior mains
But hey common sense and logic is lost on the troon. Now that they have brought up other classes to their endgame power level, they aren't as played anymore. And guess which busted class has taken its place that never had the same friction in leveling or pvp
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>>538608430
shaman
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>>538608481
Yeah, and Paladin. Druid too. The 3 hybrids
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>>538608696
warrior is also a hybrid chud
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>>538603184
>>538605208
Surest way to know if someone either never played classic or played anything but Warrior is if they say Warriors were op in 'nilla. The time and bullshit involved getting to that point where they shit out dps isn't easy and it's competitive because every other brownie wants to do it. And yet they still get steamrolled by a good level 58 mage in greens
This is why Classic+ is doomed to fail and why SoD failed. Turtle didn't "fix" anything, all they did was shift the balance from 1-2 classes to a different 1-2. It's what Blizzard does nearly every expansion to keep shit fresh. Check the discourse around SoD and 99% of the topics were "x class is too strong, nerf!" or "my class is weak, buff" or "x class sits here on wowlogs and it needs to change!".
Vanilla wasn't perfect or balanced but it found perfection in that imbalance. It doesn't need to be because raiding was only something you did for a few hours a week. If raiding wasn't in the game, without a doubt Mages and Priests (possibly Druids) would be considered the strongest classes in the game because of all the QoL shit they have.
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>>538608884
>>538608884
>>538608884
>>538608884
You made me do this. This is your fault. You have no one but yourself to blame.
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>>538608773
>t.
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>>538608386
on turtle this doesn't happen because rage is normalized is what I was mainly going at.
so my point is even with amazing rage gen at low lvls (turtle) their dps is complete shit, it doesn't matter if a warrior has infinite rage, what matters is the warriors actually gear
>high crit
>high ap
>hard hitting weapons
>windfury bot behind them
war just hits hard af with end-game gear
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>>538609479
>on turtle this doesn't happen because rage is normalized is what I was mainly going at.
I don't know what you think "normalized" means but whatever it is it's wrong. The only thing they changed about rage generation on turtle is how it works at lower levels so that leveling warriors is less miserable. You still generate more rage with bigger hits.

Again, this is not a secret, this has been known about the warrior class FOR DECADES. The reason they scale harder than anyone else is directly because of how the rage resource works. This is why blizzard has changed it a billion fucking times and ultimately flipped the table entirely on it by making it work in a totally different way.
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>>538608943
doubt people would whine about them because those classes just instantly die in group pvp
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>>538609616
hey you got your opinion, it might be wrong but you're welcome to it lad.
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>>538609718
you're such a fucking moron, have no clue how the game works.
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>>538609781
>namecalling
just cause your wrong doesn't mean you need to resort to such behavior laddie..
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>>538603378
> cd turtle_backups/
> git clone TurtleRP.bundle
>Cloning into 'TurtleRP'...
>Receiving objects: 100% (742/742), 427.82 KiB | 28.52 MiB/s, done.
>Resolving deltas: 100% (550/550), done.
> cd TurtleRP/
> ls
>ChatThrottleLib components images scripts README.md TurtleRP.toc
Downloaded the archive and it seems fine to me. git log, fsck, status, etc. all report fine.
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>>538603378
>>538613270
Ah. The repo is fine but I don't actually use TurtleRP and going by its description, it seems like it may rely on some way of communication between players like a server, so if that's the case the addon will not work if that was removed. I haven't actually looked at how the addon functions.
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>>538613528
https://github.com/OldManAlpha/TurtleRP
Confirmed there's no file differences between the files within this bundle and the fork linked above which I found linked in the Discord.

I believe all communication is through a chat channel and then stored locally so the addon should work the same as it did before the author deleted their GitHub. I still haven't actually used the addon myself though.



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