The cursed apple... Home... edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked:>>538392372
Overwatch won
Deadlock won
Marvel Rivals won
I lost
Does Kelvin suck or is just me
>>538466932team fortress 2.... won!
>>538466867>Despite being an anarchist, Billy still pays his taxes.
>>538466932Thankfully valve hired overwatch artist
>>538466932I'm playing kiriko in stadium right now
reddit goat
Whats a fun holliday build
Now that the dust has settled, when will Valve finally give us the fox motif support hero that we deserve?
I'd main Calico if she wasn't ugly and black
>>538467582I'd eat Calico's butt if she let me
I lost another match but this time I didn't just get top damage on my team but top damage overall
>>538467406melee spirit holitday!!
>>538467046tell me this is real and not made by the pedo emporium
>>538467821>meme stomp buildof course you lost
>>538468042I'm always looking for advice, what's your go-to Dynamo build?
>>538468132Heal maxxing return fire face tanker
>>538467821>12k player damage victorman
>>538466810when do you guys look at the minimap in this game?in dota, because I can just a click somewhere and not pay attention while moving long distances or farming, I can just stare at the map.but in deadlock I feel like I'm always staring at my crosshair and I rarely glance at my map. there's just so much to do with the movement and securing souls. when the fuck can I find time other than between waves after the laning stage, or when riding the zipline?
>>538467821yeah, you can't really carry with supportsit sucks when people go into afk jungling mindset after losing their laneyou forgot to hide your match id btw
is deadlock a game for brainlets or does it filter brainlets
>>538468475both
>>538468132I don’t play dynamo, but I’ve played against that build and it’s pretty shitAny kind of spirit resist just makes it useless especially later in the game, and you will always go past minute 30 in alchemist as seen in that match. Honestly I am not sure what you should build because dynamo is kind of a bad hero in general
>>538454118Why does seven hate kelvin
can victor's upgraded 2 cleanse vindicta's stake?
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>Enemy Wraith never died and did tons of damage>Lose>Check profile>Steam account is level 0>Steam profile is private>Profile picture is Putin with the Russian flag in the backgroundThere's smurfing in a game THATS NOT EVEN OUT YET, WHAT THE FUCK? Do smurfs get banned here?
wait mina is so fun wtf...
>>538468615idk just report them and go agane.
>>538468615yea"people" are already cheating too
>lose 6 matches in a row>win 5 matches in a row>lose 7 matches in a row>win 6 matches in a row>lose 3 matches in a row>win 2 matches in a row>lose 8 matches in a row>win 7 matches in a row>lose
if someone is shooting neutral creeps and I help them get the kill am I actually fucking them over or no
>>538469452It gives you both 75% of the soul bounty so it's always worth it to help
Shiv has basically just 1 ability at this point
>>538468523>dynamo is kind of a bad hero in generalMan, I can't catch a break
>>538469521that sounds like bullshit, that just means solo farming is actually throwing since you can just print 50% more souls out of thin air by sharing.
>>538469841he's trolling you, black hole and displacing your teammates with the tele in key moments win games
>>538468004You know damn well that Valve's done nothing themselves for TF2 in almost a decade
Characters like abrams is why people don't stick around to play this game long term
Is there any handicap system for when my teammates leave? Are we just fucked if I get a DC? Literally what is the counterplayt. new player
>>538470747just leave, take the L and go again.
>play drifter>cajun_accent.mp3>suddenly very hungry for cajun fries
>>538468537kelvin is a fag
>>538470637at least tell me its not a pedo emporium piece
>I can stink up the place...how come victor stinks but the girls all like him? https://files.catbox.moe/9vmx9z.mp4
>team has absolute dogshit macro>manage to win a teamfight with 5 enemies dead, all team nearly full health and get yellow walker>2 waves pushed into blue>instead of rotating to blue for the walker they go back to base and buy and farm>spend so long farmin, lanes get pushed in, enemy team gets mid and winsI genuinely dont understand these players? Do they just ignore the map? The whole point of the game is objectives, they know enough about this game's existence to get in with an invite, get to Archon rank but can't comprehend macro management.
>>538469452soul distribution is based on damage dealt, so you're taking some souls from them, but it's being cleared faster.
Getting bored of the game. Going to try to play with only T4 items.
>>538471562this thread needs a hero
>>538471562who made this
>>538471764Any thoughts on which T4s are good on Viscous?
>streamers and such gravitating to gun Ivy cause people keep insisting its nutty>its actually an overrated gimmick that makes you deadweight more often than not just like all of her other buildsMany such cases.
>>538469841>>538470375I am not thoughYou just can’t climb with that hero unless you’re smurfing
>>538472051deathy's mechanical skills are dogshit. him aim is fine but he constantly fucks up movement and positioning. i watched him play a bit today because it came up on youtube and was thoroughly unimpressed. he also said headhunter on mina is good which is just retarded. he'll probably become irrelevant as the games community matures.
AAAAAAAA
>>538472649i saw him get lost in the sauce chasing a billy only to get ganked to death. respawn, chase a bebop and get ganked to death again>"i found the whole team guys"was not impressed for someone charging money for coaching
>arcanist>just want to play game with friend new to game, no idea what his rank is>our teammates are very new>all of the enemy team is like 50 ranks higherwhy
>>538470909I've seen reports that people are getting banned even when they leave after the "You are free to leave" message appears.Also that's not a solution, is it? Just being forced to lose?
>>538471710overwatch/rivals players are functionally illiterate. They think map control is a "when it's convenient" for me variable, rather than "at all times possible" variable. This is why it often requires a full teamwipe to end shitlow matches, because shitters only ever understand that it's push time when there is truly nothing else to do on the map anymore.
>vyper cant slither backwards>have to crouch+ability button every time I need to slitherthis feels so fucking bad its insane
>>538473426your time and sanity playing a 5v6 is more valuable than the MMR.
why is the game doing this? my teammates are several elos below me and the enemy team is my elo
>>538468523>>538472312I'm sure I'm outing myself as even more retarded than I seemed, but I see other people in Alchemist/Arcanist building entirely orange or purple with some green and utility/counter items thrown in. Do you need a reliable source of bullet AND spirit damage on your hero to succeed at a high level? I assumed the counterplay to someone stacking spirit resist against your spirit hero is to let your teammates who built bullet to kill them, while you prioritize targets with low spirit resist.
>2 defeats in a row with drifter carrying>finally get drifter on my team>"check my player damage at the end"I'm learning Doorman, feel like he needs practice to place good doors and actually hit the cart into the doorway after ult (I know the conventional advice is to wait for the key to start the unlock animation but I still miss often)
Mina is fun
>>538474948It's weird that she's still in D tier even though she's been a menace in all my recent games
When the game is getting late and everyone can start murdering each other pretty quickly would it just be better to buy refresher on Doorman so you can keep one guy out of the fight perpetually or lock 2 down while you clean up the other 3?
How the fuck do I do more damage as lash??I dominate early game but I become a retard mid-game on.
>>538473218Lol are you me? We play the same shit tho I've been molesting entire lobbies with Drifter lately, maybe try him out for the power trip
>>538474492no the point of those pure purple or orange heroes is that they don’t give a shit about resists and keep building itIt’s why only certain heroes are late game carries like haze, seven, victor, and infernus whose abilities can outdo those resists with itemization. Sure you can still stack the diminishing returns but cc and curse become more helpful
>teammate leaves>we lose>next game, enemy leaves>we winIs this what "competitive" team based games are like?
FOR THE DJINN
>>538475064retards don't know how to play the better pocket
>>538474948I've been having fun playing Dynamo or McGinnis and pocketing my Minas, yeah.
>>538475385try mystic reverb :)
>know you're going to win 30 minutes before you win>know you're going to lose 30 minutes before you loseso many possibilities!
>>538474735Something I recommend doing with Doorman to make sure you hit those immediate post ult carts is double jump in place and throw it at the top of your jump since it's very common for people to come out of it in the air even if you ult them at ground level, this way you'll hit them a lot more consistently as long as your timing is right. Another combo I like to do when I really just want to take someone to anal town when you max cart is >cart >bell >echo shard on cart >cart >bellonce you stack 2 bells above their heads you only need to shoot one and both will explode.
>>538476509How far away should I stand when carting after ult?
>>538467009Not just you. I haven’t played since early December but it really feels like they patched him to play more like a support than a carry. Gonna drop him from my rotation.
>>538475065I don't think refresher is worth it usually you're ulting the carries or someone caught out. But if you're ulting the carry during a teamfight most have lots of stamina to get out of the ult quickly.
if you ever get stuck, like under the map, open the console and typing unstuck/unstick should work
>>538476617Pretty close, so the cart hurtbox spawns right on top of their sorry asses, around light melee range, maybe a step or two farther away.
>>538477241no need for the console there's a button in the ESC menu that does it
>play Haze again after 9 months break>try new meta builds>lose horribly>build a variation of my old ult-focused build>go 22/2/20 on my first matchHuh...
>>538477368maybe he's a linux user
>sandjeet is called mirageWOW VALVE
>>538478124This wasn't screenshot worthy.
click on your avatar in pause menu mid match displays the old version of pause menu for some reason
>>538466867there is no pretending to be punk rock, he just is what punk rock is.What all you zoomers need to understand is that punks were big in culture during the fifties and sixties, when the average man was a straight edge factory worker of small business owner. Acting like a anti-social sarcastic bitching queer was extremely unusual and novel at this time. The reason it's annoying now is because we've seen three generations adopting that attitude and it's lost all it's novelty and is back to just being annoying.
>>538472312You're genuinely retarded and not white if you think this.>>538468132Keep playing stomp its still good.
I have no idea how to gauge if the items I'm buying are effective or not.
>>538478928If they're weapon damage they're not worth it.
how often do you guys go out of your way early game/in lane to build counter items over your core build?
>>538466810Who else gets hard every time Viscous death moans?
>>538479214Often enough
>>538478928You put 300 hours into the game memorizing every item, every character, every matchup, and then you get a fuzzy instict for it. This genre kind of sucks.
You think they gonna do adjustments to doorman door placement think ? It kinda feels jank
this game feels like shitgive me an unga FPS hero where i dont have to concern myself with item autism
>>538479214picrel will carry you through so many bad matchups
>Abrams has a book>doesn't want anyone touch his book >none of the other heroes gives two shits about his bookkek, if only he kept his chud face
>Ritualistic in December. >Haven’t played since.>Now at Seeker.
>>538479649I don't remember most of the interactions, but Paradox definitely gives two shits about the bookPretty sure a few others do too
Did they buff yamato?I literally can't do shit against that nigger char anymore, she fucking deals upwards of 1k with her 1. Even with a slight soul lead, that piece of shit chunks down 50% of my HP while resetting her CDs.
>>538479735Paradox only cares in the sense that she'll steal pretty much anything noteworthy, she has no personal interest.
>>538479612No can do. Moba autists need their build shit compensating for their mechanical skill. You have to check your enemy's build every few minutes and then build an antiheal unstoppable counterspell antimage flash ignite. I have no idea what they find appealing about this spreadsheet crap. It just makes the combat feel really inconsistent and wonkily balanced.
morelike deilock
>>538479839no, sounds like you just got shit on by an F tier character.
winsi remember winsmatches came with winsa hero in my mindtell me what you seea thrower in a laneabandoner of gamea half-forgotten callwhere do I belong?tell me what you seeI need teammates more
>>538479937*takes a shit in my hand and throws it at you*
>>538480041Kek.
>>538480006>yamato niggers will unironically believe this
50/50 WINRATE ISN'T REAL JUST GET GOOD BRO
>yamato picked in Comp and almost made an objectively worse team win the BO1>Shes le f tier bro!Shut the fuck up retard
>>538480307100% grey talon rate might bring some literal wins, but it's a spiritual 0% win rate. fucking hate that tank buster son of a bitch
this combo is about as fucked up as I thought it would be in, hella lane sustain and you just erase anyone with double ult before fucking off to do it again in 1 minute
>>538478887>stomp is goodalright stay in cumlow
I went full support on a whim and I have no clue how you farm effectively without damage upgrades
>>538456628I did and it sucked.
>playing mirage cause i find his memes funny>hes actually strong and jewishlove this guy
>>538480691Too bad this wouldn't be viable 99% of the time since you'd take damage from something or in a bad position
>>538481059I don't know about strong but he's better than Pocket at least
>>538480718>You're hecking pisslowrino!You're black nigga.You're my slave nigga.
>>538479735because its pretty, not because its an ancient tome of fucknowswhatmost of the cast don't give a shit
>>538480641>doronjo-gangbased
>>538479649he's an investigator. it must be the epstein list.
>neon prime was supposed to be japanese basedthank god, I feel like everything's saturated with japan shit don't get me wrong, I love my Thing Japan but an old timey american setting is way cooler
>>538480348>organized semen slurping = soloqyoure genuine autism.
I have 5 games played. How do I play Paige
>>538481348Jap crap is always better with heavy western influence. See: (old) Guilty Gear, MGS, Devil May Cry, anything cowboy or jazz themed, etc.
What if ivy is actually le evil
I think Valve should make deadlock more Japanese by adding youkais to this game.
>>538481696They should start by fixing Yamato's alien model.
>>538479214>Don't buy band-aid on pocket but heals shots instead!kekmao fuck that gimme the band-aid
>>538481696Go back to League of Legends
when mina brapsher dress must flutter uplike a leaf in the breeze
>>538481696yokai was not invented by japan
>>538480041what are you building turrets like a retard or what with mguinness? that bitch is easy Ws all day
>>538481815No wait, hes on to something.>>538481696Nah I'm a weeb as fuck, love me fan service kitsune and cat girls. But I do think it would fuck with the games overall aesthetic.>>538481750Fucking true. Actually hideous design. I truly don't know what they were thinking, because overall I think most of the characters designs look pretty good, finished or not.
>almost 20k souls that I can't spend because all 3 enemy walkers are still up while our base has fucking nothing>can't push past halfway the map because I'll get raped by either the 11/0 Yamato or the 8/2 Lash because both of them move across the map at ludicrous speed>can't get my team to use whatever functional braincells they still have left to coordinate even a simple pushWhat do I even fucking do in this situation? just toss a coin and hope for at least half of the enemy team to die in a teamfight at whatever is left in our base to at least take down one single walker?
505983737395050 dead Paige e-girls
>>538482150>I truly don't know what they were thinkingShe used to be a weeb alien back in the Neon Prime days
>>538482087>buy crippling headshot>buy tesla bullets>buy titan mag>buy EE>babysit retards>shred objectives>shred tanks>none of it matters because my team is a mile from all lanes at all times
>>538481962The American flag wasn't invented by America. Neither is apple pie, nor the right to free speech.
Fracture... home...
>>538482476I cannot believe Valve thought "a future city where crime is legal" was a good setting idea.
>>538482562i quite like it, i think the whole election thing was a fun idea.
>>538482476>>538482562>>538482797wdym
>>538482476would be a fun april fools map i think
>>538482797It's cute but unless the game is totally themed around it, it wouldn't really come together.>>538482903https://deadlock.wiki/Neon_Prime
>>538482467he didn't suggest valve make deadlock more american by including those things, did he? Eat shit weeaboo
>>538482562>>538482797I think it could've been a funny idea, but also something that, should they actually try and delve more into the lore, would definitely overstay its welcome
>>538482965Is this shiv?
>>538479214whenever I'm playing against a character designed for niggers such as Infernus, Haze, Mina, etc
>crippling headshot>toxic bullets>curse>victor still heals through all of itI hate this fucking hero man he's so cancer
>>538481796Pocket is one of the easiest heroes to land resto shot on though lol
>>538482198I run boxes and wait for my team to do something then go try to win the fight.
>Come back after a week>Absolute nigger tier matches>Negative KDA >Retarded lane partners that don't do fucking shit Man, I think I'm just gonna get all achievements in silksong instead.
>>538482467>right to free speech>in US of A
>>538483136He sorta did, retarded ape.
>>538482986>https://deadlock.wiki/Neon_Primedamn that shit's ugly
>>538481815There are no youkai in league of legends.
>>538481408>Akshually esportards only pick the weakest heroes because....they just do ok??!?!?Yamatoniggers just don't know how to abuse their hero.
>>538484324You've forgotten about Ahri the weeb 9 tail foxgirl waifu
>>538484172No I didn't.
Calico fucking sucks
>>538483664But you need to expose yourself to do so and I'd rather play like a pussy
>lose 10 in a row>win 1good session i think this is a solid place to stop playing the game for the forseeable future
>>538485115But Anon it's a 50% forced winrate that means you're about to get 9 more wins in a row!!!!!
>>538484492So it seems Ahri is just a beastpeople(furry) as well as wukong, nami, etc. in the lore. The setting is kinda retarded desu.
>>538484886She really does. I'm only ever scared of her if i'm playing Mina since you die if anyone even thinks too hard about you
>>538485265>kinda*fullyIt was originally kinda cool because it was pretty much the monster mash with a bunch of random shit but when they tried to sort it all out it became really dumb with retcons everywhere and the silly things toned way down
>>538471764Well it did make the game more fun and I somehow haven't lost yet.
>>538484886Her 2 and ult are the most inconsistent things in the world and if they were fixed she'd be an actual menace
if paige's kit was in neon prime i think it would be cool if it was dj character
trust me you don't want Calico to be good
>>538485552Accelerated movement, I concur.
>>538481696yamato is already there they just need to not make her look like an ayy
>>538486032you mean 4? i actually replaced the paige's knights with a rave crowdkali in neon prime had team speed boost
This is Paige (get it, like page in a book, LOL!)She is a bookworm that comes from book family and also her brother is dying Please clap
>>538486202no, page like a knight's assistant
>>538466932I forgot to mention that I'm trans and play Overwatch 2 because of all the lgbt representation <3
>>538475681>mess around with mirage items to see what voicelines he has>one of the colossus voicelines is just AAAAAAAAAAA
>>538486242The knights assist her, retard
I'm tired of sucking so bad at this game Everyone is like >Seven is good and ezSo I choose him and pocket somehow hunts me down no matter what I do
>>538486523Seven is the easiest hero once you understand the game. Before that, I'd say maybe Mo is the easiest and most straightforward hero.
>>538484886they better delete calico
>>538486607I've played so many games and tried 3 different builds but his gun is so slow and 30 minutes into the game everyone stuns me and I'm doing 107 dps. I'm 2 and 8 and folding like wet paper
>>538486202I love her, she's my main!
>>538486765jump and press 4 nigga
Post your winrate and prove it's not 50/50 rigged MOBA garbage
>>538486765>I'm 2 and 8learn how to retreat nigga stop feeding
When are they gonna make Abrams' laning not miserable?
billy shitting out 1000 mags after each match
>>538487259How?
>>538485115you're just finishing your state mandated losses, though. it's almost time to be allowed to have fun.
Matchmaking working as intended I see.
Is ivy going to wish for the death of all the Spanish gangsters in the city?
>>538487332I just don't know how to it doesn't matter what character I play I can't ever do anything to the enemy team it doesn't matter what I do
Yep Mina is really funThese buffs were good
I can't even...
Mina is the worst thing they've added to the gameShe was also over corrected by the recent buff
>>538488252FUCK MINA TRANNIESThe fact she just needs to plink you 9 times for a perma ult buff is dumb as fuck
>>538481059>laned with a bepop and coordinated my tornadoes with his hooksbros, i love mirage
>>538482965>>538483565bump
Paige>>>Mina
I literally can't get a kill
>>538488252I have laned against a Mina for the past 15 matches in a row I shit you not.She is easily one of the most boring and infuriating characters to lane against next to Infernus. If she has more than 2 IQ you can hardly ever punish her for bad positioning/aggressive plays because she just gets her free "I get to leave the fight now" button
What were the mina buffs?
>>538488865Bigger cums to her penis
>>538488697>Easy and infinite scaling damage>One of the best escapes in the game that nullifies squishiness>Great gun>Surprisingly great objective damage thanks to ult and said scaling>Design attracts the worst kinds of ((people))Her kit is not fun to play against but Mina trannies will defend this because 'muh win %'
>>538466810Why is Pocket they/them? Does Valve know that if they go woke they go broke?
What if pocket was ftm and Mina was mtf
>>538489335they'd both be 100x uglier
>>538468615Russians really are a different breed of human.
I'm so tired of this.
>>538488087Go get 'em champ!
>minus nine percent spirit resistHuh?
>>538487957whats ivys lore
>>538456717That's pretty much Krill without Mo, and even then Mo's powerlevel compared to other characters has yet to be debated.
>>538488087Abrams is either 12/0 or 0/12. No exceptions.
The fuck?You guys were shitting on Mina being the worst just not long ago. Absolute F tier.And now you guys are trying to change the narrative?
>>538489538genuinely impressive that valve somehow made the matchmaking worse with a wider pool of players. my matches have just been dogshit since the hero update
https://youtu.be/xqJsU0iN_UIim so fucking glad valve made deadlock and its cool setting instead of generic garbage sci fi shit
>>538489724It's me queueing with my friends who are new. The loose party restrictions are to blame.
>>538489335they would be dead like all troons
Did they buff drifter because I'm having a hell of a time beating him
>>538489684Because she's slightly better now and this thread has a tranny meltdown if glass cannons are capable of actually doing damage
>>538489684no she's still trash
How long does it take for rank decay to happen? I got an absolutely disgusting winning streak where I got carried in ALL games and now I'm Ritualist *. I'm getting raped in lane, in teamfights, in 1v1s, I take 2 minutes to find a camp because I still don't know the map.
Is autoparry for melees going to be the most subtle way to cheat in this game, I already see people make some sus as fuck parries against light melees sometimes
playing like your team isn't there is a much lower stress way to play.
>>538489684Her 4 is annoying and silences you and recharges in like a minute at most. She's got no health but she's not half as bad as people thought
The only hot part of Mina is her showing her fat thighs
>>538490341but then all your shit falls apart because nobody is macroing and you're trying to hold all 3 walkers by yourself all at once.
did you forget to turn on extra competitiveness? i did>>538489684she just got buffed to be more of a glass cannon fartknocker
I was pretty certain we'd lose just because wraith in lane was very aggressively trying to deny.Still though, what should I have done to win?
6th game of the night where I'm the only one with a positive K:D.
>>538490496it is what it is. I can only hold one lane myself. win or lose.
>>538490552heres where it is if you don't like your knowledge esoteric
>>538490663>does nothing
>>538490621>caring about k/dngmi
>>538490296Such scripts already exist for fighting games no? I don't think they're too much of a widespread issue (yet) because they're quite obvious. If one day someone makes some AI powered shit that analyzes your game footage that would be a problem, but it would need to have almost nonexistent input lag.
the game is dying again...
>>538490879school started again...
>remove spirit resist on walkersare the devs actually retarded or do they not understand their own game? trick question, its both.
Genuinely what more could I have done? I communicated only as much as necessary every time, hyped all my teammates up whenever they did something good, tried to never be negative. These games all happened in a row. Excluded: a Yamato game where I went 6:6:4. How do I cleanse my account from this curse?
>>538491036>Spirit>Short & fast game>Gun>Play the long gameSeems to be fine.Otherwise, spirit build / hero would be garbage.
>>538491075pick warden instead of haze
>>538491075create another account
>>538491075nothing. you lose about half your games unless you are pulling ~70% accuracy. it's just how the system works
>>538489684She is just a shit to fight character who attracts shit players or annoying aim community fagsI really wish they reworked her passive
>>538489297because it's a puck reference
mirage ricochet and toxic bullets is so addicting
Fuck me they made us work for it. Seven, Infernus and Mina were all 0/6 at one point with only me and bebop having any killsHonestly if the enemies hadn't fucked around or tried a retarded mid boss while we were all alive they would have one for sure
>>538490561on the upside though, vyper is probably my new favorite hero
>>538492087>568 obj damageYou shouldn't be allowed to complain.
damn its so hard to win games with vyper
Valve should be bullied into making singleplayer games and singleplayer games alone
>>538491198ah I see you must be on the dev team yourself!
>>538489581Pocket's base spirit resist is -15
Can't wait for draft so I can permaban retarded shit like nigfernus from ever appearing in my game again
>>538493013This I can't wait to ban whatever tanktard is dominating
Is Mina korean or japanese?
They should make the default dash distance for all heroes 20% longerNot because I think it's good for balance or anything, but because I just bought stamina mastery for the first time in my life and that air-dash distance feels so fucking good
>>538493180She's American bro
>muuuh taaaaanksjust go back to playing your npc adhd 1-shot fest, leaguebab
He's just so hard to win with bros too bad Doorman is so fun
Don't mind me, just shooting obj
>>538493195>I dont care about balance and how it would impact the game, they should just do this thing because I feel like it :)brown subhuman moment
>>538492461Yeah it doesn't look great but we were down 3 guardians and 1 walker to their 1 guardian at one point. Spent a lot of time just pushing/clearing lane and defendingA lot of their walkers went down after 2 different teamfights where I was either dead or retreated for defense since they got one of our shrines
>>538493242>muuuh taaaaanksi shred themt. mirage
>>538493350Just throw 1 and shoot it my nigga
feel like most of this thread is just people having a tantrum that the game isn't exactly the way they want it to be
>>538493892its mainly normies who should be using reddit trying to get some social interactions by throwing their ideas based on feelings without actually using brain
>>538483491oh thats a real mod
>>538493892you read a critique and take it to be a tantrum? boy
>>538493993sex
>>538493993If you're using mods already, why not just make them all naked?Modders are so weird.
>>538494027If you think the posts here are worthy of being called a 'critique' then you're in for a whirlwind when you see an actual one
AWOOOOOOOOOGAAAAAA
>>538494087It's not actually that sexy to have everyone naked for no reason.
>nooooo only fair and constructive criticism allowedthe game would be better if it wasn't dogshit
>>538494473then dont play it :)
>>538493993>Taking away her skirtDisgusting. Give me a pantsu mod any day of the week instead
>>538493993looks actually decent
>>538494204it helps your aim
>>538494509I will play it out of spite and continue to have 'tantrums'
>>538494141Lay it on me!
>>538494613there is a big distraction attached to this skin though
>>538494087Dressed women are hotter.
>>538492513>69LOOOOOOOL
damn, people on my team are starting to insult me and call me badoh well
>>538494854You can enable show average rank on results screen in the options menu btw
>>538493734He's a support cuckie despite his bells doing damage he will never be able to spirit carry like Lash or Yamato
>>538494854is this an old screenshot or is it really 1 or 2 am in your country rn
>>538494738Only to straight people though, so you're good.
>>538495034it is on the american west coast
>>538495040if it helps your aim then you are the faggot here, retard
New lore reveals that Vindicta was burned at the stake by bigots because she is trans. Now she's taking revenge showing off her queer wrath defending gay monsters and killing stupid chuds. Deadlock is really cooking w/ ts
mina farting so hard into her umbrella that she flies off
>>538495161>canon blue futaDon't threaten me with a good time.
>>538495161you're saying that because her old model looked like putin, right?
>>538495146I'm not the one using it, dumbass.
>>538495331futa feets>>538495376I dont know what you're talking about /flair:notsarcasm
Abram's 3 needs something moreMaybe an active component that charges up when taking damage like Victor's 1 but for healing?Or maybe give it health percentage based healing?Increased regen as health lowers?Flat damage reduction?A cleanse?Anything?And the upgrades themselves aren't anything to phone home about neitherThe first upgrade is fine in lane, but very quickly becomes irrelevant, the second upgrade is also a big whatever, and healing 1% of damage taken every second is sweet FA
>>538494854Don't play Vyper if you're bad, she has a high aim requirement and isn't that strong so you'll be struggling when you can't make up for it with both macro skill AND the aforementioned good aim. Pick a simple hero whose gameplan can be executed more easily so you can focus on, and improve at, the other aspects of the game
I really enjoy building McGinnis with 45 turrets, fleetfoot and heroic aura and just pushing lanes all game
>Win >Loss>Loss>Win>Loss>Win>Loss>Loss>LossI swear to fucking God, the game didn't use to be this bad a month ago.
>>538496018>just give me good teams so I can win you stupid fucking game!why are reddit manchildren like this
>billy abrams lane against vindicta grey talon>nobody wants to swap >"wtf why are you losing lane you morons the fuck wtf!!"retarded cunts
>>538496018nah they've always used the forced 50%. they've just made the matches worse so instead of getting close matches you get a 0-22 vyper
>>538496110The game keeps doing this to meI have no idea whyLuckily I haven't had anyone bitch about it but there's been a few games where me and my other short ranged lane partner go 0/3 each because there's nothing we can do but get poked to death
>>538496110Use your mic and be polite but assertive.
>It's a "Lash pulls everyone inside the fountain and we lose" episode
>>538495648yeah but I don't want to play anyone else. I wanna play vyper
Hasnt happened to me in Deadlock yet but in other competitive team games, if someone is flaming me and especially in situations like this >>538496110 I just start to soft int the game. I've been playing these games for years and I've stopped caring about my rank as much as I used to. These retarded npcs with the main character syndrome play team games and blame the team for losing the game just decreasing the morale and making other people tilted which quite literally makes you more likely to lose. Like I get it, you can vent out your frustration at the end of the game but not in the beginning or in the middle for fucks sake
>>538496354Bro, your counterspell??
reee vyper was stolen from me
oh well. Nothing to be done about it>>538494897thanks
>tfw Majestic leap on PocketLmao this is so fun.
>>538496134You get 0-22 vyper, because vyper by design is trash. They need to fix it. Half the heroes have instant escape. And vyper has: sliding....
>>538496886only reason why I main the character, without that item I wouldn't touch him
you want to control your goo ball better? that'll be 6,400
>>538496354it really should have a roof or something
You want to not be useless after firing 9 shots in a team fight?6400 souls thank you
Does enduring speed slow resistance work on the slow you put on yourself shooting while moving?
>Mina pressed 4>Walker gone>She has already teleported halfway across the map
>>538491075Hmmm, analyzed the screenshots and it seems you are the problem!
>>538497467why are you spamming the same imagine in every thread. Your posts are a shitty excuse to post it
>>538497608Holy esl schizo. I haven't posted here in days.
Casualtard gamemode>default magazine size>every skill is unlocked >all skills are on cooldown when you respawnwho's most shit and who's most broken
>>538497182Buy titanic mag and mercurial next time lil bro>>538497608This isn't even the worst ritualposter ITT, still better than the resident animenigger for example
>>538497656I meant image, kys brown retard
>>538497736anime website fucking loser newfag /pol/tourist idiot, trans rights
It's funny watching people tell on themselves by seething about Mina, especially in regards to her TP. She's countered by a 1600 buy btw
>>538498112>guys my favourite hero isnt op, stop saying that or they will nerf it!
What can break a "channel" in this game? Any damage? Or just stuns and silences?
>Play for 6 hours >Not a single good game Man, what the fuck is going on. I win my lane, but I always get fucking curb stomped mid and late. I go out of lane 3-1 or 2-0 and the enemy laners have like 5 kills and double the souls in the same amount of time.
Fuck this stupid thread Im going to back to /mrg/
this is my room where i play ddeadlock
>>538497687>goodspirit>badgun
>>538498439where is this shit covered dildo
man, 5 losses in a row tonightI just wanted one win. but oh well, im just not gonna get it tonight
>>538498539I'll give you ONE GUESS.
>>538498539in you're ass
>>538498439I always wondered how are these still sold. They are the worst chips in the world. Who buys them?
Wraith is hindu
>>538498638this is not my pack of chips freind of mine bought it a few months sgo
i feel like mina has been a net negative to the game.she isn't that fun to play and it kinda sucks playing against her.
lash feels really obnoxious to play against
How do you win with ivyBecause I try to just rat but I never win.
I know it's euro hours now but maybe there are some Americans here in this thread right now. Would any of you be willing to create a fund and get an artist to do some Blacked Mina porn? Her fat White thighs would fit perfectly with some BBC, I think if we get a few guys the cost wouldn't be that high
>>538498097kys animenigger YWNBAW
>>538498195Just how shit are you cause even when I go to lower ranks for her winrate she's still pretty bad>Slowing hex>Maybe suppressor Congrats now she's dead
>>538498572>lowest objective damage in the game as VyperNo wonder you lost, shoot the fucking objectives
This game takes so much skill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>538499815walk out of it or buy knockdown
>>538499815>he didn't buy knockdown against sevenYour fault mr. Initiate.
>>538468578duhhh idk can it be removed by debuff remover???
>>538499815Walk out of the radius. Buy Spirit Resilience.
>>538499881>>538499909>>538499923Keep defending the game bros, you're going to have 10k players again in no time
>>538499985keep being bad sis
>>538471764T4 items are less efficient than than grabbing 2 t3s or multiple t2s and I don't mean from a tempo standpoint, I mean the actual power of several t2's outweights the power of one t4. For the most part, like boundless spirit is THE best item if you just want a ton of spirit and there's no way around that (and obviously it has multiple lower tier versions) but there is no single gun item that is going to outweigh the DPS of equal value tier 2/3s
>>538499794desu I was playing spirit vyper so I don't melt towers like normal. Also it feels really risky to shoot buildings when I'm at half HP or less and I don't see everybody on the map.I wanna shoot objectives but I feel like its always a trade off of>do I wanna damage the guardian/walker and die or do I wanna walk away and not die.
>>538499985Yes yes sorry sir. That nasty Seven must be nerfed. He doesn't even need to aim his ult! I was so wrong to advise you!
>>538500101>but there is no single gun item that is going to outweigh the DPS of equal value tier 2/3sGlass cannon + Lucky shot mathematically mogs everything else though.
>>538500130There is NO way Seven downplayers still exist, this game really didn't change at all from a year ago. Character sitting at 55% + WR being considered shit and weak and having a lot of counterplays
>>538480792If you understood how supports are actually played you would know that you aren't supposed to farm, retard.
>>538500130nerf the lighting strike
>>538481137>you'd take damage from somethingveilwalker and +range items exist>in a bad positionlearn the map and take advantage of the movement system like mantle sliding
>>538499985Need better bait, fag. Seven ult is a joke.
So is the most effective way to play Pocket is to enter the fight late and bomb them with ult?
>>538500179No it doesn't unless you already have multiple stacks of glass cannon (lol good luck)
>>538500676But it does, even with 0 stacks.
>People bitching about Mina and defending SevenThis is your reminder this general isn't just shitlow, it's full of meta abusers that will whine about shit like Haze or Mina while maining shit like Warden or Seven
>>538500769I genuinely don't see why anyone would complain about Mina. Her ult is annoying but that's about it. Meanwhile Seven has *four* high impact skills and people defend that somehow.
>>538500225>>538500769I need you to understand that explaining how to deal with something is not "downplaying" nor is it "defending". Remind yourself at all times that Valve balance gurus are not browsing this thread. Nothing complained about here has any impact on the game. All you can gather from here is strategies you are not implementing.
>>538500464I've never played a MOBA before so I don't know how supports are actually played
>>538500502Just ask a teammate to buy rescue beam instead of doing this shit
>>538500837>>538500769After the recent Mina buffs she is quite powerful in the hands of a good player. She is like Mirage used to be in terms of power from her passive
>>538501262I doubt this general play against Eidos every match
Whats it like playing this game during the weekday? I assume only the NEETS with thounsands of hours play at this time. I will get my shit kicked in if I queue up. Do I have to wait until all the retards at my skill level leave work?
>>538501706the skill level is about the same at these hourst. neet
>>538501670Fair enough, but high rank players have started playing her more since the buffs and she is by no means as weak as she used to be. I've played against some really good Mina's in my lobbies and they basically can't lose lane because of how strong rake is for healing and love bites is for harass (reminds me of a certain other hero)
>>538501262>she is quite powerful in the hands of a good player.I love characters that become quite powerful when placed in the hands of good players!
>>538501810>I love characters that become quite powerful when placed in the hands of good players!How shallow and pedantic! No shit a hero that needs good aim and game sense is going to suck shit in the hands of a monkey that can't hit a single shot and doesn't know their heroes own limits
>>538501879The point was literally any character is "quite powerful when played by someone who is good at them"
>>538501981Mo and Krill played by a shit player is hardly any different than a Mo and Krill played by a very good player. A Pocket played by a shit player is going to feed relentlessly and do fuck all damage, a good player will be able to play around how squishy he is. It's not hard to understand Mina is exactly the same
>>538498439>anime pillow and blanket
>>538502061M&K is just poorly designed
how is Ivy allowed to do so little gun damage? you have to use like an entire magazine plus half the other one to take down a creep early on, meanwhile Haze can deal like 5 times the damage with a half empty magazine
>>538502283Yoshi wants to cull ivy population so they can remove that goblin from the game entirely
>>538501706if your rank is high enough and you queue at the god awful hours you'll be backfilled into ascendant and eternus games
>lash and vyper go 0-8 during laning>im winning as victor and result in a win >lash has the fucking audacity to imply he won the gamejfc, emissary avg game btw
>>538500769I play calico :)
>>538502283heroes without a passive vs heroes with a passive 3, in other words, just icefrog things. Be happy there's no PA hero for now.
>>538502551deadlock passive update when
>>538501706maybe just play the game and get better at it if you have the opportunity? god i hate npcs
>>538501112>CarriesDeal their damage primarily through normal attack damage, typically without the need of active abilities. Carries are the WEAKEST characters at the beginning of the game and NEED items to make them strong. Carries are the characters that need the most farm as that's how they get strong>SupportsAre characters that are INHERENTLY strong through their abilities. They are not the big damage dealers, as such they don't really need a lot of farm to be effective. Look at characters like dynamo, paradox, paige. They have strong abilities that are pretty much good immediately when they're unlocked. The items a support want either enhance their already good abilities, help assist their teammates either directly or through ways that affect enemies, or by getting items for themselves that help them get to teammates (i.e. movement items)There are other roles but I think understanding the core difference between how a carry works and a support works is very important. Right now people aren't really thinking about how the roles work traditionally in a moba and how this still applies to deadlock but it's also a problem with random teams since it's very well possible to have 3 carries on a single team.
>>538502283>ROLES??? IN MY MOBA????
>>538501262Every hero is powerful in the hands of a good player, this is such a stupid fucking argument. Can a pro carry on Talon? Sure but he would have gotten more value on Seven. Can a pro carry on Mina? Sure but he would have gotten more value on Drifter. Every actual good hero in this game gets downplayed constantly while people whine about dogshit ones, it's like you are all playing a different game.
>>538501112In LoL at least supports are never supposed to last hit because their lane-mate is to get all the gold. So they're like babysitters who don't do shit. Pretty boring. I haven't played any supports in this game so far but I can tell they have more to do than a character like Sona whose abilities are just toggling different auras.
Why is there not a penalty for failed parries yet? Baiting out parries is already demanding enough at high level with learning the proper way to cancel, but that's only to get the "privilege" of using the items you invested in normally.
>>538466810Are they not going to nerf Paige and Mina? Can they at least put a range limit on love bites like they did with Mirage?
>>538503106you literally get 3(three) heavy melees if they fuck up their parry, if you're building melee that should kill damn near any hero in the game lol
>>538498439average minagooner
>>538503106What do you mean nigger, if they fail the parry you can melee them 3 times in a row before they can parry you again.
>>538503224Looks like hes playing Paige.
>>538503203>>538503254Which required me to get up close, have invested in some form of CC or CC immunity else they'll just walk away. Just doesn't seem that worth it in the current state of things.
>>538503106>50/50 someone into death or taking half their hp in damage>somehow this is not good enoughmeleetards actually need to choke
>>538503458It's almost like every melee character has one or both of those things... huh, crazy
How do you counter mcginnis in lane?
we need to make a stand and cuck them
>go 15/0/21 on vindicta>tell team we're going to get stomped if we let the game go on much longer because the seven will just hypercarry>no one listens>proceed to lose at 45min because the seven eventually does what seven doesfuck this, im playing seveni have good understanding of the game, but i feel so at the mercy of my teammates past 25min when im using her, especially with alchemical fire build which is ultimately a support build disguised as a carry build
>>538503527monster rounds
>>538503579Just play gun vindicta? she fucking shreds late game
>>538503461That's right, I require the addition of:-Feints-Guard crush-Overheads-Footsies-Combos-StaggersAnd I won't be satisfied until I have them.
>>538503756>-FeintsDrag your mouse before the punch hits or use one of the items that cancel animations such as Fleetfoot>-Guard crushUnstoppable prevents stuns from parries (although the enemy won't receive damage and the parry CD will be reset)>-FootsiesJust position better
>>538502897yeah, and Ivy was just deemed a """marksman""" by the devs in a recent leak. So what's you extremely clever and charismatic response to that?
>>538501804just poke her and shove the lane as usualif she comes to rake when your creeps are at the tower, poke her more
>>538504346she has a higher winrate than haze in high ranks and everyone builds her gun
I'm seeing Holly builds with Trophy Collector and Veil Walker as core but is it really that interesting? It's not a very good character to rat and you're not getting picks late game when everyone is bunched up together.
>>538501163im gonna build for potempkin buster whether my team likes it or not
it's another drifter with 3x the deaths as the next person episode.i'm fucking PROOOOOOOOOOOWLING
>>538501262And Seven is "quite powerful" in hands of an actual fucking retard, so which one is worse to play against?
why are drifter niggers allergic to split pushesshouldn't the hero be great for that
>>538504346>Building gun means building damage items exclusivelylol, lmao even. Ivy is a support built around using her gun. It's high fire rate pairs extremely well with many of the debuff items that proc from bullets, the rest of ivys kit is extremely useful by just existing.Ivy has the second highest fire rate in the game. You know what pairs extremely well with high fire rate? Tesla bullets. With tesla ivy can deal decent damage but importantly has insane wave clear and can proc her tesla across an entire team which allows her to combo into it with stuff like suppressor or mystic slow. Just because you're too dumb to understand how itemization works in this game doesn't mean ivy isn't a support cuck. It also doesn't mean she needs to deal high gun damage either as a "carry" character that has an invincibility state that heals her AND stuns + extremely good AoE wave clear slow + an ult that can literally get her out of any situation would be extremely extremely annoying to deal with if she also shat out a ton of damage.
>>538505462Drifter unironically requires half decent macro99% of Drifter players have brain tumors so thats impossible for them
why does sinclair get 3 regen base
>>538502818This is insightful, thank you. And items can make some characters flexible enough to carry or be a support? i.e. I could put all my souls into items that boost my damage/CC plus what I need to survive 1v1s, or I can stack utility and enhance the support skills my character has? And I imagine this doesn't work well for every character e.g. I can't imagine Billy playing support the way Dynamo does
>>538505462he's designed to ambush farmingmaxxing niggers and split push by forcing 1v1s but people use him as a generic brooler
>>538502283Icefrog's not so subtle way of telling you monster rounds isn't optional
>>538506152>create a brand new game>quelling blade, boots and bkb are still mandatory itemsIcefrog, I fucking kneel
Went 1/16 since the new characters dropped. Played 27 player matches total since I got my key last year.I guess this game isn't for me.
>>538506765Try not dying
>>538506575Boots and unstoppable are not mandatoru thoughever
>>538506794That's a big ask, hombre
Remember to say THANK YOU to Uncle Dane
guess the hero
Uncle Dane was right about Deadlock
>>538506824fleetfoot or enduring speed really do be good in most games doe
>>538507034mo
>>538507034visc
>>538505676>>538505918>Drifter should be split pushing and 1v1 kill someone>Drifter is shit because you and your team should always stick together, and you can now 2v1 himWhich one is it?
>>538507167>having to use two heroes to stop one from split pushingyou already lose at this point
>>538506973I am going to say THANK YOU to Ivy for saving the game when Grey Talon and Yamato were the first exposure people had to it.
>>538507034Sinclaire or Infernus and I hate that I've seen the build in my games for those characters
>>538507060uncle dane isn't right about anything
>>538507132>>538507139>>538507225
>>538507167it's both, if you play Drifter you should be looking at the map and recognizing patterns in the enemy team's reactions to gauge if you'll be getting ganged up on while split pushing or not. Knowing when a 1v1 is likely to take place and when it likely won't is where the macro knowledge comes in
>>538507285i've seen melee paige before. whats the benefit? surely spirit is just better for damage?
>>538507285but why
>>538507374her melee has +0,5s stun
You think they'll ever add wards to this game?
>>538507490base or off item?
>>538507490Really, now?
>>538507452>>538507374I don't know but he went 6-1 in a forced win
>>538507536That will make sure "support" becomes a fixed role
>>538507536I wouldn't be surprised if at least one hero gets some kind of ability to place down something that gives map vision like a ward but there will never be universal wards. They already gave calico something like this in her shitty hero labs version.
This is who this game needs now. Someone who jumps in and rapes a team.
does lifesteal actually steal HP from people or does it just heal you based on the damage you do
>>538507782lifesteal just heals, siphon bullets steal hp
>>538507536nah
>>538507836stop being helpful to noobs
>>538507761The game already has this role covered by lash
>>538507761They don't want oneshots, at least for now. Haze is the closest thing in terms of damage and Aoe.
>>538507761Literally billy>>538507895hello time traveler from 2024
>>538507878sorry
>>538507782Latter. Also other anon didn't elaborate enough. Siphon bullets steals max HP and gives that max HP to you (temporarily) but in addition it will heal you for that amount as well. It's effectively a set amount of direct lifesteal rather than being a % of your damage and it can't be mitigated through resistances or w/e
>>538507132>>538507139>>538507225>>538507285>>538507374>>538507490>>538507651why do you even care
>eternal night>only lasts 7 seconds
>playing ivy>see that our paige is outnumbered and on low hp>try to fly her out with my 4>she ends up getting stuck against the wall and dies while I fly away well that's the exact opposite of what I wanted to happen
braum hero when?
>>538508343Paradox already has the wall, Paige the ultimate, and Lash the looks. What I'm wondering is when will they add Necrophos/an execute hero. No, Vindicta doesn't count.
since Holiday isn't even a cowboy according to her own words, that means there's still space for a cowboy hero, even if it doesn't fit the setting 100%. Do you have any ideas?
We need a Yuumi hero. I want to just latch on my carry all game, press buffs, and do nothing else.
>>538508457>point and click executei would actually uninstalloh wait shiv has that and got buffed
>>538508509this but because we need a cute onahole hero
i main king in tekken 8. i need him in deadlock NOW
>>538508535I had forgotten Lash, the second lowest winrate hero in the game, existed.
what does the eye near hero portraits mean
>>538508665Fuck, I mean Shiv>>5385086924 ability readiness
Since the lanes are 2v2 we might as well have Cho'gall. One player controls movement, the other abilities.
>>538508692whether their ultimate is ready or notit turns into a circle meter when it's not ready
>>538508509I remember playing Tristana on league, a hero who wasted her entire mana pool on like one (1) combo and had to go back to base constantly, while Yummi only offered about 2 points of health regen and nothing else even though I would, again, end up going to the fountain anyways, and Yummi 'players' still expected me to do everything and carry them. That champion was an absolute mistake. Io has a better kit but even then, I don't think this game would benefit from that kind of archetype.
>>538507976billy isnt even close, shaker wants to wait and rarely is the one engaging teamfights
>>538508658just play Billy
im surprised there's only 1 hero who can summon anything
>>538507761The closest thing to Echo's Lam in this game at the moment is Abrams ultimate and that shit sucks fat cock so I doubt they'd ever add any ultimates like that on a future hero
>>538509095We need more summoners. I don't want to play the game I want my summon to do everything for me.
>>538509095TRVST THE PLQN
>teammate calls me a retard for playing it safe and not diving into the enemy with 1000 unsecured soulsfuck you want me to do, feed the enemy team?
>>538509392It's a bit impossible and it sucks when you're not sure if what you did was right or wrong. Like there's a teamfight that looks sketchy and you don't join - it's probably the right move but you'll get flack for it. Impossible to know what would have happened had you joined.
give every character a charge ability, thoughts?
>>538509643I find charge abilities that only ever have 1 unless you buy an item weird.
>>538508782Would be funny if Mo and Krill wokred like that, but alas
>>538509643what do you think your stamina is used for?
>infernus leaves after dying first>causes game to stall for 2min with his team waiting for him to come back>tell team "sorry for leaver">comes back at an 8k soul deficit>somehow manages to outfarm everyone on the team after being out of the game for 4 fucking minutes and his team wins>"ggez"uninstalling, i fucking can't anymore
Game Theory: Victor is actually Viktor from Paladins: Champions of the Realm in an alternate timeline where his plastic surgery went wrong, each stich represents a memory
>>538509575I mean in this case I prefer supporting my team from a distance so I can more easily retreat if necessary and not drop my souls
>>538509392what does your image have to di with this
>>538509575assessing a teamfight is so much easier in eagle view mobas, even if you can switch the camera to your teammates with F keys it's still hard to see what's going on
>>538510460that's one thing i miss.it's genuinely garbage gameplay when nobody can start a fight because there could be 5 motherfuckers lurking the alleys so the best option is to just do nothing.and with how fast people can delete people in lategame it's hard to choose when to fight when someone can just round a corner and instantly delete you.
>>538508658Post this on forum
>>538509998don't worry, the jungle rework will fuck him over when the t3 camps have randomized spirit DOT resist!any day now...
>>538486202>and also her brother is dying Billy is fine tho (minus the goat head).
>>538508509that's paige
Nigfernus needs a redesign so fucking bad.>Enormous single target dps, a mix of bullet and spirit damage>strong aoe teamfight ability>can easily engage/disengage a fight due to his mobility spell>all that with a smug nigger faceThere was a game where I was a fed Billy and I was absolutely demolishing the enemy team but fighting nigfernus even 1v1 was extremely scary, he solokilled me once or twice. We won the game but everytime I see this character I feel dread
>>538510368It illustrates disgust as the filename suggests
>>538512278everyone hates him but they refuse to give him reasonable tuning.fucking hate laning against this nigger too, the only winning move is to just try your best to not interact with him at all because you'll lose unless he's fucking retarded.
>>538512278debuff remover and make his life hell in the early
>>538512278>Builds Quicksilver/Boundless and the rest gun>Do more spirit damage than the rest of the lobby anywaysHe's gotta go
I just realized that blood tribute my secretly be EXTREMELY good. 50% debuff resist is insane. You can use blood tribute for THAT ALONE and it would be good
>>538512278There is literally nothing about his kit that needs to be redesigned. Cry harder retard>NOOOOO THERE CAN'T BE A GOOD M1 HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>538503186You're bad. Love bites barely applies outside of close range.
Jesus it was like playing against the people I usually get on my team
>>538512847why does an m1 hero need to do both spirit and gun damage while also having a strong teamfight ult and have a mobility spell that also does damage? kys nigger
>>538507034mina
>>538512979Every hero in the game can do spirit and gun damage thougheversowhatmaybeit
>>538472312>most powerful teamfight ulti in the game>shitters still strugglingThis is why his 1 went from a kinda lame AOE nuke around him to a wave of death with a huge hitbox - and shitters are STILL whining.
they need to buff slowing hex
Why do people stay in a 5v6 game?You have no chance to comeback, the souls difference is only gonna be bigger and bigger as time passes.Unless it's late game, otherwise there's zero reason for you to stay 20 minutes just to lose the game.
>Cant land bells>Cant land carts>Exclusively uses ult on "Kill secures" and nothing else, sometimes even letting the enemy get away
>>538513349I've won a handful of 5v6 games usually it's the bot retard that ragequits and it's doable, especially because sometimes the enemy team gets too cocky and starts deathballing around so you slowly take their shit. Also certain heroes are basically worth 2 like Seven.
>>538513437to be fair, the infernus player he's laning with is probably worse but fern is still 14k because the character is brain dead
>>538513537thank god victor isnt fair, won that game anyway
>>538513437I just always hotel their initiator every fight because it guarantees they start playing worse out of annoyance
remember when shills were creaming their pants over infernus and now that we got some well designed characters its obvious that he is obnoxious braindead dogshit?
I wonder why people consider Lash a weak laner even in bad matchups he's a stallGOD and otherwise you have great poke with QSR flog
>>538513735no answer to long range poke comps and dies horribly to divers before he can get his combo up. like most shitty laners, he's also reliant on a competent lane mate which can ruin his game. it's mostly why I stopped playing him.
>>5385133495v6 games are winnable if you get a good start
>>538513349the enemy team already has a player who is so bad and weak mentally that they would have left if they lost the lane instead. They are more like a scarecrow than anything.
>>538513437doorman said this?
>>538514065It's in the lore and canon
I play Doorman, Lash, and Bebop and I am extremely racist and an incel
they need to make the sinner sacrifice timing more clear somehow
>>538514417it can't get any more clear lil nigga
>Be Seeker shitter>Nobody here knows how to parry>Play Abrams *once*>Suddenly everyone knows how to parry
>>538514540you'll cowards don't even lock dead
>>538514417the lights on top will flash from none to fully lit, charging a heavy melee when 3 are unlit will time it automatically
>>538513601i teabag people after kills for no reason to achieve the same effect, it's like putting a taunt debuff on them cause they will suicide trying to kill you out of sheer butthurt
>>538514597Literally everyone knows to parry off the ult and charge and jump over charge too. Now that I've decided to play heroes other than Abrams, I can see my team never pressing parry against him, what is this black magic curse.
"I'm gonna try something new this game team, wish me luck!"
Do people not understand the importance of area denial and zoning or are people just taking the piss when they say "xD just walk out of Seven ult it's weak
>>538514931Just like Seven is always godlike in the enemy team and a total retard nigger in your team. Satanic black magic, sick shit.
why didnt they give the Djinn some vocielines?i feel like its such an easy fix to me Mirage go from a boring as fuck dry character to something interesting.have it be like a Sinclair type idea, though on a different dynamic of course.
>>538512847>every hero in the game can do spirit and gun damagenot every hero in the game has a basekit dot that>has no cooldown>can be refreshed with stray bullets>is applied from bullet hits even if the target is bullet immunehe has very few answers in 30min+ games, which i guess he's supposed to as a carry, but seven has far more counterplay through his abilities being dodgable and interactive outside of "spend slots on spirit resist and pray he is too retarded to buy spirit rend early"every haze player ends up playing him when they realize he's just a better haze in every way and knife builds are gimmicky garbage, since you can gun someone just enough to apply dot and then get free pressureand don't even get me started with how bullshit backstabber is on him right now with how backward dashes currently work
>>538514540136 hours in the past 2 week, neet life is good
>win 7 games in a row>lose 4 games in a row>win 4 games in a row>lose 7 games in a rowthe matchmaking is demonic. I'm not joking. there's a spirit in the machine draining us of our loosh for yoshi.
>>538513349>You have no chance to comebackthere is a chance if the team is half decent, kinda rare i know, and you dont go broooling like tardsalso if the enemy team starts to get cocky (happens more often that what youd expect)
>>538512278He just needs less health.
>>538514856But the camera moves away after death, so noone can see this
>>538515037Yeah i really dont know why give Mirage voicelines in the first place and not have it be just the Djinn talking.The whole point of the dude is that he is an emotionless bodyguard protecting the actual interesting character.He needs voiceline rework and full ability rework honestly.
>no glyph>no courier>no wards>no buyback>no tusk hero>dota 2 grew +100k in the spawn where deadlock got maybe 20k moreWhen does icefrog add the good mechanics to this game?
>>538515068>>is applied from bullet hits even if the target is bullet immunewait seriously
>>538515175it stays on your corpse for a few seconds, you gotta be quickyou can even teabag people that your teammates killed for extra salt
>>538512278everyone thinks he's OP but instead of nerfing them Valve nerfs heroes no one even plays
>>538515232deadlock will see dota numbers when they add lootboxes and battlepasses
>>538515202>Literaly Warlock with a gun>not interesting???
>>538515232and League annihilated DotA without half of those KEK
>>538515232>wardsplease god never add that dogshit into the game please.>everything elseziplines and the lane shops remove the need for them
>>538515068
>>538514064>>538513910>>538513507>>538515118>I'm gonna waste my time because there's 10% chance to winNo thanks.I would rather go into a new match with a fair game.
>>538515321>when they add lootboxes and battlepassesdoesn't matter, nobody in dota cares about lootboxes or battlepasses, this game will grow once they redefine mechanics.
>>538515430if you don't think a decent portion of the playerbase are people with sunk cost fallacy and shit loads of cosmetics, think again
>>538515358League did that by being able to run on 20 year old computers
>>538515240*yes*
>>538515408>have to gimp your build on a green t4 just so DOT doesn't proc as easily>still get destroyed by flame dash in certain situations anywayyea no
the punchmachines.. why is it sometimes I get buffs and others I just get souls?
I won us this game with a well placed ult. One of the closest matches in a while.
>>538515037the best way i could describe the problem with Mirage its like if Doorman was a god possessing a doorman and instead of getting some cool god interactions like we have now, we got voicelines from the generic doorboy for some reason.
>>538515492Metal skin makes you immune to bullet damage not immune to being shot. You need plated armour for that
>>538515570there's a little minigame on the last punch
>>538515428then do that? I'm not leaving a winnable game
>>538515624would 4s of on-hit effect bullet immunity really kill the game tho? would actually make metal skin worth picking up
>>538515469No, I don't think lootboxes makes a person play a game. >>538515387>please god never add that dogshit into the game please.wards a kino mechanic, you wouldn't go to a war without recon.
Nigfernus 3 should maybe be toned down a bit everything else in his kit is fine though and he's a cunt hair away from being shit, Warden and Seven need to be gutted though. Actually on second thought they should just not touch Infernus but make metal skin prevent afterburn, djinns mark, fixation etc from proccing or make it proc at a reduced rate, item is kinda meh rn could use that
>>538515483Not true any more. They bloated the hell out of League.
>>538515408worthless item because he can just buy APR and rape you anyways
>>538515570>>538514694
>>538515738I was referring to 13 years ago anon
>>538512956I've played with you before!
>>538515602I think I'll keep playing Seven for a while.
>>538515789league was a nobody 13 years ago
>>538515865your mmr for every hero is separate, any time you want an easy match just hop on a hero you've never played
>>538515882anon, league was 3 years old at that point, well into becoming one of the most popular games period
>>538515853Hope I didn't feed. Was probably throwing your game on Doorman
>>538515232Dota 2 is having The International bump as they always do every year. But we don't need every Dota mechanic to appear in Deadlock. If the two games are very similar it'll start cannibalizing each other.
>>538515408did you even read my post, faggot?his bullets aren't the problem, his spirit damage is that he gets almost entirely for free isdoubling the time it takes to apply a dot that takes less than a second to apply that he can still both apply and refresh through ricochet makes zero difference
>>538515430This is literally the only thing zoomers care about, hence the player number increase once Valve announced random drops. You have to be blind or clueless to think otherwise.
>paige is the only hot white female character in this gameWhy did they make so many female characters negros in this game? Not a single European can related to these heroes. Russians the main player base even less, they probably don't see a black person once in their life.
>>538516368>Why did they make so many female characters negros in this game? Not a single European can related to these heroes. Russians the main player base even less, they probably don't see a black person once in their life.They have more in common with Africans than someone from western or central Europe
>>538516010Post numbers.>becoming the most popular gamesWon't say it doesn't count but it's because of Tencent. Not anything rito pr says.
>>538516368>Not being into GILFs like Lady GeistNGMI
bruh i was high phantom when i last played now im the lowest rank
>>538516439This but Americans
league is simply more fun than Dota because it doesn't have esports bloat mechanics like denial and it's straight forward
>>538516289>hence the player number increase once Valve announced random dropsnah, the playerbase increased because they changed the ugly old art style to a cel shading look.
>>538515027Nigfernus in my case. There's also Mina but she's shit regardless of the team she's on
>>538516631This is also true
>>538516289correlation does not imply causation
>>538516638league has jungler role though
>>538516368Paige is dogshit, so is your taste in women
>>538516638>league is simply more fun than Dota because i'm a retarded mouthbreatheryes anon, we know
>>538515602This is some of the most low MMR looking footage out there, but this felt really good in the moment.
>>538516687The game didn't even have an art style previous to that, that Wraith model on the left is straight up unfinished.
>>538516845>so is your taste in women>disliking redheads in thighhighsgayer words have never been written
will this game have a day night cycle?
>>538517035Default source 2 art style is pretty good ngl.
>>538516687>>538516732Its okay to be ignorant as long as you admit you're wrong. Check the player number increase during arcana drop events for example, which happened a few times during the game's lifecycle if you want more examples of free hats' impact.
>>538516687>the ugly old art styleanon, you're criticizing an obvious wip and it's making you look retarded
>>538517441>concurrent >players logging in for a brief momentyes, what's your point again? Even I logged in for the free arcana when I haven't played in years.
>>538517035I'd go as far as saying this was an all-around downgrade. Valve didn't go far enough with the comic book style and things turned out too cartoonish instead. The shaders, textures and especially face data needs more work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZogv3ghWUA
>>538517594they're still not done with most of the modelshell, vindicta still has her old dress that has massive geometry holes the size of her arms - she only got an updated head model
Does Rejuvenator give the 2nd life to the entire team that takes it? My team did Reju, I wasnt there and just died later on without respawning but every time before that I'd still get the buff
>>538517594I don't think they were ever going for "comic book style". But speaking of unusual guns, I do hope that Viscous gets a coral gun like from one if the older datamined models.
>>538517441i really dont get why dota got even more popular.they are literally doing anything they can to put as little effort into it, like striving to tf2 levels in its later years before they completely abandoned it.is it really just all 3rd worlders?
Every time I load up a different game (anything 3rd person) I try to crouch slide down hills or dash with shift and am always disappointed when I can't.Deadlock movement is too good it is actively ruining other games for me
>>538515428then leave tard nobody is stoping youkill yourself while you are at it
>>538517705whole team gets buff while it's activeyou have to be alive to receive the buffgrants fire rate, health regen and one other thing, can't rememberyou don't have to melee rejuv to get buff, just have to be alivebuff has indicator on your character modeldying respawns you at full health, can only use it onceif your team has no rejuv tokens left, you lose buff and the bonus stats with it (which makes it worthwhile to not die if you still have one left)
>>538517117Nah, I like my women not looking like cheap mobile game hoes. The only tasteful sexy woman in the game is Geist, every other opinion is wrong.
>>538517980>I try to crouch slide down hills or dash with shift and am always disappointed when I can't.are you me anon?
>>538517887i really like this old design of him. but its a shame since it only fits a big tank Viscous (which he was early on i believe) not the modern one gameplay wise.
>your predictions on when the next big update will be? (rough date range)
>>538518102>a librarian-esque booknerd with zero cleavage>cheap mobile game hoe>somehow geist isn'tthis has to be bait
>>538516368>so many>2
>>538517536Which is literally what impacts the playerbase size, check clownfall event you disingineuos fag
>>538518086so your last point was the issue here, thanks anon
>>538518332no update til after octobersmall update in november (possible 1 new hero OR more model updates)next major update will be no sooner than feb imonext major update will likely be massive map rework (new guardian and walker models, new shrine models, neutral rework, new escort objective, further map polish)model updates aren't "major" since they're not really game changing and will probably trickle in every few months
>>538518332never because they're canceling the game due to low #s
>>538484492Ahri is a ugly gook gumiho, not a kitsune.
>>538518679bait
>>538518332November... 23rd.
>>538517980i hope this game gets big so other tps start doing the same
>>538517703Yes but you can clearly see the artstyle change, which became less realistic and more conventionally attractive. Which would be fine if it did't lose on the fine details and unique features too. There better be an another art pass to be more in line with the setting appeal.>vindicta still has her old dress that has massive geometry holes the size of her armsThis is a staple of all valve games: low res lower body, she may unironically keep the same model. There are Dota2 heroes who have unchanged models from the beta days.
>>538517980I play The Finals sometimes so the sliding thing is useful
>>538518546Concurrent players on a patch day have barely anything to do with the size of the stable player base.
>>538517980forgot to mention doorman in your post, pajeet shill
>>538517980Same, I tried playing marvel rivals again after playing only deadlock for 2 weeks and holy fuck I felt like I was a disgusting cripple with broken legs crawling everywhere
>>538517887>I don't think they were ever going for "comic book style"With the current cell shading its all but guranteed, but they need a different shader or proper texturing work for game to not look like fortnite. I'm ok with cell shading and bright colors for the visibility, old models were legit too dark in color, but some ruggedness and stylisation in looks could be nice.>>538517980Literally me every time friends invite me to play HD2. That shit doesnt even have a jump button what the fuck.>>538518340>old-fashioned cocktail dress and fur collarvs>modern sweater, stockings and the ''nerdy insta thot'' lookYou are a niggerbrained retard
Jesus Christ just remove seven from the fucking game
Another epic loss because someone got caught farming post-30 minutes. Life down here in Seeker is pretty good.
>>538519389Yes because in most live service games you can expect some kind of dailies/battlepasses/login rewards and other gaming chores to encourage players to log in, play 1-2 games and pad the playercount numbers. Btw Crownfall isnt a patch increase case, it was a long event which granted free shit for playing games and grinding its funbucks. I'm sure you understand this but keep pretending to be clueless.>>538519453>hoes mad
>>538519510this is one of the reasons i dropped the gamedying and walking back to the payload as dr.strange is.... something
>>538519524>modern sweater, stockings and the ''nerdy insta thot'' lookwe're on this shit again?not even going to engage
>>538519794Drifter is a blessing, finally someone playing a jungle janny to prevent PvE fags from having fun
>>538519620BUY KNOCKDOWN?????????????
>>538508254TOO LONGone of the most annoying ultimates ever, and it is not even that crazy
>>538520202the ult is not the problem seekerkun
>>538518669i dont think just randomly dropping model reworks is the way.put them like in the recent update. bunch together with all the other content, make the updates look bigger and in general gives more "player uptick per update" sort of deal.
>>538518332Probably two (more) weeks for the next update. It won't be major though but more than just a shit balance update.
>>538520121I accept your concession, come back when you develop a better taste
You think we'll ever get a hero who can grow into a giant monster? Like a King Kong literally the size of a Walker that can walk down lanes and has a massive hitbox you just have to empty bullets into if you want to stop them?
>>538519524fortnite doesn't even have cel shading or outlines
>has nigger man hero>no cthulhu hero>setting his based on lovecraftdefend this deadlocktards.
>>538520405wrong
>>538520654Wrecker soon
>>538508254Your duration extender?
>>538518332Never, Valve will open a secretest playtest and start developing Deadlock 2
>>538520221>most annoying ultimates everyou know we're getting more crazy ultimates right?
>>538520654you gotta go back, normie
>>538520324we really aren't the real playtest anymore huh...
>>538520654There's no defense to this one, Viscous should have got the ''scary underwater creature'' look to contrast his demeanor. But it probably won't happen.
Stickin em
>>538520901Most people aren't the real playtest and haven't been for over a year
>tell everyone to come mid boss>haze is still farming>start spamming mid boss in chat>still farming>look at name>full chinese>we fail the DPS check and they all rape uswhat anti-ccp moonrunes should i be typing in chat to scare them into disconnecting
>>538521254something about a square in the 80's?
>>538520037But hats don't bring players in, they keep them in. It's a retention mechanic, and even then the value comes more from the psychological effect of daily quests.It's not 2014 when digital hats are some novelty, they're overdone to boredom already.
>>538502951They should add a support like Sona to this game, I agree.
>>538520758that's a guest character in a different art styleand still looks nothing like the shading or texture work on finished models (dynamo, mcg, abrams)
>>538520391No. We already have the item Colossus, and it only makes you bigger by 20%.
I keep losing games as Viscous and Beepop despite having 30-35k damage while my team is at 12-15k, with rare exceptions.8 loses in a row. Maybe I should play something else instead.
>>538520391What is the strength of that giant hero though? Just 90% damage resist?
>>538516978Punishing the enemies for not paying attention to ult timers is how you should play, good job Anon
>>538520390>
>>538512979>why does an m1 hero needWhy does any hero need anything? BECAUSE IT'S FUN AND ADDS TO THEIR IDENTITY you dumb fucking gorilla nigger. His ult is not that good too, yes it can be utilized in very good ways but if you think his ult is on par with something like dynamos ult or fuck even ivys you're a retard.>Mobility spellhmm idk maybe look at the other M1 characters?>>538515068>not every hero in the game has a basekit dot thatGood. Why should they? It's what makes Infernus different. >he has very few answers in 30min+ gamesDebuff removerAnything that adds debuff resistance (there are multiple items that add to this)Spirit resist (RESISTS!???!?! WOOOOOOOOW THAT'S TOO COMPLICATED!!!!!)And of course you can cuck him with stuff like disarming hex, slowing hex, and good ole cursewoooooow...that was hard! and before you cry that that's too many items, all of those items can be used to counter or mitigate a LOT of stuff in the game. You talk about how seven has counterplay....but how does infernus not? Everything that would work against seven works against infernus
>Get inted twice in a row by godawful WraithsI swear to fucking godWhy do I get stuck with literal mouth breathers who play f-tier heroes. At least Victor is a okay bullet sponge, but this dogshit???I do not care about your muh scaling because you insta lose me lane if my enemy laners have braincells.
>>538521556I've mentioned multiple ways to keep the players in which are widely in use in live service games today. Read before answering.
>>538521914Yes, and none of them BRING new players in.
>>538521906This Seven is 100% correct tho
YOU WILL HAVE ZE SKINS AND LOOT BOXES AND YOU'RE GONNA LIKE IT
>>538521875> BECAUSE IT'S FUN AND ADDS TO THEIR IDENTITYhis identity is that he is fucking disgustingly overtuned,subhuman nigger. god fucking damn it you disgusting retarded mongoloid
>>538522064Dressing up my favorite heroes sounds like fun
>>538521556The thing is that hats and weapons in Valve games can be traded around for real money or other hats, this creates a strong (albeit pretty negative) incentive for players to keep playing (and also for Russians to bot the fuck out of your game), in other games your items are locked to your account.
>>538522015They all do tho. I've posted the proof above already, you're back to repeating the same things I've already addressed. Seriously, what's up with your reading comprehension? >>538522064No I won't, Valve will outsourse cosmetics to the fucking chinks again. And then they'll make overpriced gold/red particle vomit reskins for 10x the price without the no hat option in the game.
>>538503106Parryniggers are the biggest whiners in the game.
>>538522064MY FAVORITE SKIN?GOLDEN THUNDERMASK OF GLOB SHITFLOP(IMMORTAL CRIMSON VARIANT) for Seven
>>538521774Somehow I always have top damage as Bebop but I feel like I can't carry any game for shit. The hero is super fun but he can't close a game.
if they make a Geist bikini skin i will be okay with any amount of micro transaction greedy bullshit.
>>538522064I need my anime collabs and $100 skins or else I'm not having fun.
>>538521906These never fail to make me smile, I always read it with her voice.
>>538522064i hecking cant wait for Mina kpop skin!!1!1!!(actually i trust Valve to not go this retard with it)
>>538522491sorry i meant ivy and vyper and page and mcginnis and mina and wraith and viscous
>>538521774try support Viscous its not as flashy but you unironically do more for the game than some hyper fed carry
>>538521814I wouldn't imagine it as being their "normal" state, just like their ultimateMaybe they could summon a giant monster to run down a lane and attack objectives; maybe calling up a monster from the deep like Fathom. The idea is a hero who becomes or create a big hitbox you need to focus fire on to get rid of, which I just think would be aesthetically really cool if it was a Kaiju.
>>538522431And I told you already they're not new players. Like I provided an example, I logged in to claim my arcana, old time veteran, but I didn't stay.Nobody picked up Dota from 0 because of an arcana. Not a single person, because microtransactions aren't some new novelty.
>>538519794that's 90% of every moba matches in non stomp games>game goes to mid/late game because the early game was actually evenly matched>somebody gets picked doing something fucking stupid late game>lose because of itoccasionally you'll get actual team comp/scaling diffs but it's almost always some fucking retard dying for literally no reason when spawn times get too long and then losing half your base or an important objective because of it
>>538522648maybe not all at once but there's going to be gold particle weapons as rare items eventually and then the community will start submitting all of the game's cosmetics through the workshop and they'll start putting out mandatory Chinese New Year events where everyone gets zodiac motif costumes in red and gold and before you know it the art style has been raped
>>538466810I absolutely hate those russian players. You should be wiped off. They constantly blame everyone, push like tards and die.
>>538523156like 5 of the released heros currently had a giant transformation ability that got scratched so its clear they are playing around with the idea
>>538523586yeeahh but we should get at least like a few years of good Deadlock before it turns into a Chinese skin farm mill like all the other games.
time stop hero when?
>>538522190cry more, he's not getting changed.
>>538521774Viscous cannot carry a game to save his life, you're completely dependent on your team to either follow up on your burst or your distractions with the goo ball
>>538521875>debuff remover + debuff resistanceafterburn is spirit damage that isn't reduced with debuff resistance, only how long the debuff is active, which again is fucking irrelevant midfight when it can refresh from any stray bullet and buying debuff remover JUST to survive an escape with afterburn on you is comically slot inefficient>spirit resistsi already said spirit resist is an option, but every infernus powerfarms into shred/rend>disarming hex / curseTHE only answers, but they're answers to everyone
>>538523958Never, you already have doorman.
>>538523958Paradox should've been that but they made it basic and early so we just get a little mini stun as our cool time manipulation mechanic.
>>538523586Do people genuinely believe this won't happen? It happened with TF2, it will happen here too, there's zero doubt, people will want their idol Mina/Yamato skins as soon as there's a functional cosmetics shop and backpack.
>>538523646source?
>>538523958
>>538524041he is, nobody like this disgusting overpowered nigger dogshit. Eat shit brown abusing subhuman
>>538524114>only how long the debuff is activeExactly>and buying debuff remover JUST to survive an escape with afterburn on you is comically slot inefficientWow good thing debuff remover heals you and gives you a speedboost when removing debuffs and is extremely good against most of the cast that can debuff you in some way or build items to debuff you. Debuff resistance also lessens the window for infernus to refresh his burn.
>>538513349>braindead Abrams feeds 5 kills in 5 minutes and leaves the game>start to dominate 5v6 without our bot Abrams>Enemy Wraith has the nerve to whine about getting triple teamed in an alley by a team with only 5 players
>>538523586If there's no chink playerbase why would there be chink cosmeticsHell there isn't even a chink hero but we got Mina and Yamato
>>538525208Abrams is hot fucking garbage currently.No one should be playing him: braindead or otherwise. You're better off without him.
>>538508658not sure how to translate a command grab grappler into deadlock. would love to and post it on the forums, but I don't really see it happening
Valve should add an item that gives parry stun immunity.
>>538525742category? tier?
I just had a losestreak. 7 in a row.
I'm glad that Vyper's gun doesn't shoot big globs of snot anymore.
>>538526130I had one that was 27 matches long...
>>538523958Paradox feels rather bland compared to the new heroes (doesn't stop her from being a top tier hero, apparently), so maybe she gets reworked. Her ultimate, for example, has nothing to do with time.
>lane with infernus vs paige and ivy>he keeps flame dashing in>gets stone form'd and paige rooted 4 times in a row>ivy asks him in allchat if he's new to infernuskek
rebuttal seems insane, why does no one ever buy it? (against melee heroes)is parry base already enough of a free kill 99% of the time that it's overkill?
>I MAKE MISSILES FOR LOCKHEED MARTIN>OOOOOH YOU WANTED TO HAVE MORAL SUPERIORITY OVER ME EVEN THOUGHBEIT WE JUST MET>DOWNVOTED, IVY. DOWNVOTED.good character
>>538526438she's a sperg that attracts sperg players. don't think I've ever encountered a chick on mic ever playing her either
We need more support heroes like Paige.
>>538526681I like her butt.
>>538526772I like her everything.
bard hero when
Returning player here:Why do I rarely ever see Haze now, and why is she always negative KDA when I do?What did they do to her?
>>538527251fuck off nigger
>>538527320No, also answer the questions: faggot.
>>538527251Shes dogshit unless your cheating or a member of the "aim community" (aka cheating + drug abuse).
>>538525742>>538525809It's weird how Melee has a small selection of items, almost like it's meant to be its own playstyle, but petters out after the super early game and has no/limited scaling. I'd like a Parry immunity as maybe a passive on Unstoppable for more a reason to build it, but a new 6400 green or purple item that granted a new melee bonus would be cool. Maybe something yhst upgrades out of torment pulse so you cam get extra AoE but idk purple already has so many good items already; basically already what Scourge does.
>>538527251she's a late game carry but people don't have the patience to farm up and get to that late game
>>538527251Rarely? She's in every one of my games. Frankly I'm tired of seeing her, she's either worthless or 20/0.
>>538527551Melee scales out on characters that have melee damage named in their abilities, like Billy's bat when it hits level 3 or Viscous' punch. They proc melee items, they scale with melee damage, they make crushing fists FANTASTIC. Don't sleep on crushing fists billy
>Seven abuser doesn't get to pop off>INSTANTLY mad in all chatMust be some sort of phenotype
When are we getting a REAL cat hero?Calico is shit.
Reminder that souls aren't everything if you doing nothing with them. 2nd lowest net worth in the lobby yet had the most damage on my team. Seriously though this was a miserable game. FIVE fucking carries on my team and they did NO FUCKING DAMAGE. Haze was the only one who was able to farm and attempt to do something while literally every other player on my team would overextend into lanes solo with no teammates nearby and feed and die. 0 communication too. No one asking for help, no one asking to make plays. Just running down lanes and getting ganked and feeding.
>>538527985seven/haze/infernus players are always cunts. seeing a lot of doorman players also throw hissy fits a lot. the latter probably because they're clip farmers (they're always echo shard rushers)
>>538527251Poor psyop attempt
>don't parry the obvious heavy melee at the start>parry during a fight when they think they can get free melees off on metactical genius at work
make a new thread, lazy niggers
just me or is vinny feeling so fucking bad lately...
>>538528139That 0/6 wraith with the least player damage boggles my mind
>>538529095I'ma make a furfag thread if someone doesn't...
>>538466810How do i control my anger? Every bad game i call people faggots.
Had a game with a retarded Mina trying to farm the jungle while I played Drifter. Meanwhile just by keeping the lanes from collapsing I had more farm them him. What a fucking retard.Also if you get ulted by the doorman other enemy cc should not persist through it.
>>538528139>this is an emissary matchgrim
Post hero ideas. Here's mine.Theme: Scavenger/CollectorGun: Assault rifle that has an underbarrel shotgun alt fire.Ability 1: Passive that allows him to get more souls by walking over the location where creeps and heroes died. Ability 2: Passive that increases potency and duration of items and reduces their cooldowns.Ability 3: Passive that temporarily gives him more power when he uses an active item.Ultimate: A 5th active item slot. Items placed in this slot gain massive extra potency and duration but have an increased cooldown.I really like the idea of an item user.
>>538529226>>538529095You have 5 minutes.
>>538529574shut the fuck up
>>538529226Go ahead, pick a good image
>>538529341drifter is a good sidelaner thobeit
>>538529574Too kino for nu-lock.
>>538466810New:>>538530246>>538530246>>538530246
I've been a neet for 2 years and I still cannot climb past Emissary
Is there a way to check the replays of a build author's games? Some builds feel off, I'd like to see how the person making it uses it.
>>538529179I flame every single wraith player on my team, you are purposely throwing games by selecting her.
>>538529287I myself use the term brown nigger dogs to refer to my teammates
>>538529287type your insults in party chat so others don't see them but you still get them out
>>538529341that's what both of you are supposed to be doing though
>>538527551hello shitlow
>>538525481>55% wrAbrams is fine, players who build melee/tank aren't
>>538526350>ACKed
i truly, truly cannot understand how one can suck at abrams, victor, mo and krill.
>>538526438is it even hinted by the patrons as to why she's doing the ritual? does the visual novel address anything?>>538531902it's because if he had blacked there, it would get removed and he'd get banned
