Mina is best girl EditionThreadlocked: >>538466810>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
deilock lmao
Cuckquean Mina...
>not even the real character in opHow is this allowed? We're not a fanfic general
I said pick a *good* image
>>538530637Would you have preferred this?
>>538530538Where can I see the next slide where she's chocking on his meat?
I thought he meant Billy op when he said furfag OP... OP is a fag
I like your scavenger idea btw Anon would be fun.
>>538530548That's clearly Mina.
>>538530709In your homo erotic dreams, you faggot.
I'm tweakingDeadlock's gameplay and fights are so good but I fucking hate Moba slop and multiplayer sweat fest cringeIs there a GOOD single player game with Deadlock's smoothness??? Preferably an ARPG? Don't say Warframe I specified GOOD.
so is Calico really just the black sheep of the game?>weird mismatch of a theme and design>weird mismatch of abilities and gameplay patterns>devs clearly didnt know what to do with her during the whole dev cycle>all of the other unfinished heros have clear leaks or word about them being worked on currently except Calico who was completely abandoned.honestly just remove her and start over on the idea
fact: when Sinclar steals doorman ult he sends ppl to Best Western
>>538531020warframe
i hope metro kills himself
>>538531278Who?
>>538531278why would he do that retard
>>538531020Shut up zoomer
>>538531342that's the spirit>>538531391because he's an unlikeable retarded faggot who sucks at the game
>>538530693NTA, but that's somewhat creative. Not OP image material, though.
>>538531251That makes me wonder. Can a sinclar and a doorman send each other to the baroness at the same time?
>>538531491They can send two ppl, not sure if eachotherI just had a match where a doorman got sent to Baroness and he started fighting some dude in there >the service here sucks!
How the fuck is Abrams an S tier hero? Every game he's in he gets bullied out of lane and parried to hell and back.
i hate furries
>>538530854Its some kind of dog and we don't have a chihuahua hero, clearly offtopic
>>538531640I gave you a chance to make a normalfag thread.
>>538531020buzzword buzzword buzzword, just quit, the game is too good for you>>538530693I'd prefer all furries to get their containment zone and/or kill themselves>>538531624Thats the thing: you don't melee as him, valve nerfed all HM windows out of usability
>>538531624What the other anon said, you only HM after a maxed out charge if they don't have resistances, or they waste parry without an ally close by. Focus on shooting them or tanking with siphon life for maximum effectiveness. You can light melee to bait parries but it's more risky
bros... i think im getting sick seven...
>more seven counters release>winrate goes upuhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>538531624>have a very strong gun>continues to melee like a fucking brainlet
paradox and vindicta have the hottest voices i will not hear any arguments
>>538531624Don't ever melee as any of the designated melee heroes unless your opponent panicked and parried out of custom or they are stunned for long enough (abrams charge into wall)The melee button fucking sucks right now
>>538532372it's OK. range is too shitty for a stable laning phase vs medium-long range lane comps so he's easy to counter/kite
mina's ult is like a dogshit seven ult
>put slowing hex on mina>press 4I know she mad she maaaad
>>538532536use it to immediately destroy objectives or to counter-initiate and then blink away somewhere to a rooftop. she's basically unkillable unless the mina pilot is stupid.
>>538530923>A man and woman having sex>Homo eroticHuh?
>meleeggers bitching they can't play rock paper scissors with rock AND scissors anymore and now they actually have to risk something for their brainless gorilla playstylea bloo bloo bloo
chimera hero when
>>538532469vindicta's voice is extremely out of place
>>538532727yeah killing objectives at T3 (and with spirit burn) is the only good thing about it>she's basically unkillablesure but it does nothing
>>538532345You can't counter Seven's insane aura. Also, his second ability is a stun. I like to buy Echo Shard for it.
This game isn't as complex as Dota but it's still pretty complex, compared to Dota though the playerbase is much more clueless. Tempo is abstraction for the players in Deadlock, I even see people leave the lane early on to farm the jungle, like what the fuck? Also people are araming waaaay too often. It's incredible how much easier taking a sidelane walker is compared to the middle one. That's because people are too scared to leave their team, splitpushing is just so easy in this game. Also taking the middle walker is almost impossible, I wonder at what elo the mid boss becomes an early-mid game objective instead of a very late one. I saw some top ranked players go for the boss in order to break the midlane walker but I can't imagine pulling that off in my Arcanist games
>>538532878she has a hit and run/kite playstyle. play her the way she's intended or play someone else. again, a competent mina player is near uncatchable. vs good ones I'm thinking of running veil walker + slowing hex just to catch the bitch
>>538532780Yeah, a shame instead of removing scissors from the melee playstyle they decided to make choosing rock an instant loss so now we are just playing paper scissors
>>538533043yes I'm well aware, doesn't change the fact that the ult is like a dogshit seven ult
>>538533006>People know the game that's been out for 15 years more than the game that's been out for 1 yearNO WEEEEEEEY
>>538532857no it isnt
>>538533238>AND the 15 year old game is based on a mod that was out for a couple of years prior
>>538533238yeah, and playing with a bunch of clueless retards just isn't fun
This women has only 1 good ability.
>>538533006It's safer to stick together because there's no buyback in this game so if you get picked off you'll lose 5v6 and it'll be entirely your fault.
>>538533678just stop over-extending on vindicta/lash at 40 mins bro it's not hard
>>538533636Is it the nuclear bombs, the unlimited mobility, the cross-map 600 damage or the hard CC that puts you under her walker?
>>538533636holliday just doesn't work in pubs especially in the shitter you need coordination for her kit to work, if there were tournaments, she would probably be a popular pick
>>538532780sorry but whining about melee is never going to not be pathetic. all you had to do was press f and you couldn't do it. >but they had full melee build!so buy rebuttal (800 btw) and press f
>>538533765The line between split pushing and overextending is nonexistent.
>>538532771>You don't understand dude I NEED to see a COCK I dunno mange, sounds pretty fucking gay to me.
>>538533869and then the vindicta/lash gets picked and the game is thrown
>>538533636>barrel is huge damage and great CC>pad gives you AND allies a ton of mobility>crackshot wins you lane for free even if you completely ignore it and don't build for it at all, or completely carries your team if you have aimbot can aim>ult is like mo&krill's as in a literal free kill if your teammates aren't braindeadhow?
>>538533849>press F>they turn 90 degrees so they miss and they just do another onebro just have literally perfect reaction times to do it late as possible AND good latency to punish the literal gorilla retard playstyle that doesn't need to worry about aiming or movement or literally anything!
>>538533636being a cool tomboy?
>>538534140ah you fucked up pressing f guess you just have to sit there and let them punch you then!you are actually bad at the game stop making excuses for yourself
>>538534041The result doesn't always be fun when you just pick 4 strong abilities in ability draft.
>>538534140>press F>they turn 90 degrees so they miss and they just do another one>I retain full movement so I just jump away and shove bullets into their heads while they hit nothing
>>538534186true
>>538534041>literal free kill if your teammates aren't braindead>Playing Mina >Holliday lasos' the enemy infernus>Sits next to me and expects me to do damage>In the middle of my reload animation>With both my 1 and 4 on CD>Finish reloading after two full business days and proc love bites once >Enemy infernus fucks off in the meantime I blame Holliday for thinking I can deal damage.
>>538534409>>538534454yep, i'm definitely wrong, that's why they haven't constantly nerfed and changed melee for the past year, it's a great and healthy mechanic!
>>538534590Don't be a disingenuous faggot, melee WAS very strong, but it has been nerfed into less than uselessness to the point that you are incentivised to never use it unless it's a guaranteed hit on characters that are designed to make heavy use of it, using melee currently is just an instant loss button against any half competent player
>>538534574you were supposed to melee them
>>538534590yes it's because shitters and redditors like you whine nonstop instead of just pressing f. getting parried makes you take 30% more damage and that wasn't enough for you so they added rebuttal which reflects melee damage, gives you a damage buff and heals you all while reducing your parry cooldown by half and you retards STILL couldn't press f so they gave up and just nerfed the whole thing to appeal to shitters like you. you are actually bad at the game
>>538535116>Deal a whopping 100 damage per meleeI mean, it was an alternative.
>>538532914I love this edgy little freak. He's like the spooky space kook and 10000 volt ghost rolled into one
>>538533006Lower skill/knowledge floorBut WAY higher skill/knowledge ceilingIt's a fact. And it's only going to get higher when they (likely) rework the jungle to be on par with dota's >but muh last hitting>muh jungle stacking
>>538535474you forgot to praise doorman in your post, shill. This game is for midwits
>>538533636/dlg/'s take on hero balance is consistently inverted
>>538535607true sister we should go install league of legends!
>>538535607>no counter argument>projecting>seethingI accept your concession to the argument.
>>538535607And dota isn't?Man, those slavs plastered out of their minds on vodka since before they came out of the womb must be fucking geniuses to perfom so well on such a complex and mechanically intense game.
>>538532516it's nearly as effective as a heavy melee when you're in melee distance and has zero getting parried risk associated with itif you pick up a few gun items you're golden, melee is the PUNISH button if they panic and stun themselves by parrying (two free shots and then a heavy melee)
>>538535474this is unfortunately trueit's accessible to anybody who has played a shooter before which is more common nowadays than RTS games but it's also asking for way more because of the movement and aiming requirements at high leveli was eternus when ranked came out but i'm a dota boomer and it's literally impossible to play against the shooter zoomers now that they've learned to play mobas, i simply cannot lane against them
>>538535889>when you're in melee distancespecial emphasis. mid/long range heroes don't need to put themselves in abram's range.
>>538535607its funny how people who play deadlock consider doorman to be unfun cancer meanwhile every shill post on /v/ is acting like doorman saved gaming itself let alone deadlock
>>538535868tell me of a more complex and mechanically intense competitive multiplayer game retard>inb4 deadlockdont even bother replying retard>>538535845>this game has a way higher skill ceiling... because it just does, ok?yeah sure buddy, a game with only 4 active items and without a designated support role where you dont even have to last hit the creeps is much more complex... god damn this general is brown as fuck
>>538536206>where you dont even have to last hit the creeps is much more complexThey should bring back last hits. The lane phase is a bit too braindead right now.
>>538536152>doorman to be unfun cancerthe 45% winrate hero?
>>538535730It's not about strong or weak. Besides, being too strong is not good for enemy players.
>>538536369holy fucking brown retard
>>538536128No one wants be in the abrams rape range, it has always been abrams who has to get them in the abrams rape range
>>538536152>He keeps putting me specifically in the Hotel Dimension.
>>538536369doesn't have to be good for it to be cancer
>>538536369>uhhh it has only 45% winrate so his kit can't be unfun cancerdamn nigga you fucking stupid
>victor went from 60% winrate to 48% with a single nerfI had no clue it was this bad...
>>538536369I don't give a fuck about winrates yes the bell spam cart stun 6.5 second krill ult character is unfun do I really need to spell it out for you
>>538536206>more buttons to press means higher skill ceilingYou complain about browns but you are chink as fuck
>>538536206Starcraft, a game that is actually played by people with an IQ above 80.>Playerbase consists of 90% actual europeans and gooks
>>538536342It's the opposite. When you don't have to focus on last hitting there's more room for harassing. Maybe it should come back if they ever rework teams/lanes so there can be a solo lane again but right now there's no real benefit of having the last hitting
>>538536686>3s echo shard memejust fucking double jump dumb nigga lmao>>538536570>1 time ult CC>cart and bell spam>that's about it besides walker memesoh nooooo what unfun cancer....this will kill deadlock and make everyone play league of legends!
Honestly they could fix doorman by making the cart stun scale with distance so he can't just summary execute you after hitting one
Doorman sisters, are we really so superior that our hero causes asshurt despite his modest winrate?Signed: The Doormen Community
>>538536949just give it the abrams treatment. only does .75 wall stun but let it be t2 upgrade. there, now the total stun time is too reduced for echo shard memes but now he can play around it reliably
>>538536342>last hit the creep>then last hit the soulNo way, keep one or the other, both are just a hassle with no real gameplay benefit
>>538536656>singlehe had like 3 major nerfs
>>538536814>>3s echo shard memeI didn't mention that in my post at all lol. feeling a little defensive maybe anon?
>>538536206how often do you buy 6 actives again
>>538536718the impact of the active items in dota is also much higher, your point retard?
>>538537130bell spam doorman is just diet geist, it's a lot easier to avoid. or maybe you're a newbie and didn't play against peak geist bombs regularly
>promoted to Arcanist after 148 hoursI'm thinking about accepting girlfriend applications, what do you think, /dlg/?
>>538536723SC is easier though
fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK YOU
>>538537128He was still nearly 60% until this last one...
>>538537254Post heroes
>>538537312>nearly the most deaths on team>thinks they deserve a win
>notice i play exponentially better if i buy movespeed itemsdoesn't that just mean my movement sucks? being able to rotate more quickly is solving a lot of my macro problems. that 'speed-e' dynamo build and full movespeed kelvin get me so ahead in farm so fast that i autowin most of my games with these builds.
>>538537245I know and its still unfun cancer retard no one likes having to constantly dodge low cooldown high damage spirit aoe spam. or did you think people enjoy geist bombs?
>WE WANT NEW HEROES WITH COOL NEW KITS>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT...IT'S SO ANNOYINGmake up your minds
>>538537452
>>538537213can happen as a support, wards/dust (you sometimes got to buy both) and healing lotus are already 2 or 3 slots. How many times do you buy 4 actives in deadlock?
if dota is hardwhy do slavs perform so well?
>>538537485No, it means movespeed items are a shitty meme.Same with shit like Kinetic Dash.
>>5385375141/4 parts of the kit being cool doesn't make the other 3/4 parts unfun cancer do you really not get this?
>>538537506ok. so bells, cart stuns, and his ult CC annoy you. so you want an entire kit reworked because it annoys you. perhaps he should have a blink and a dagger?
>>538537485Being fast matters more than hitting hard if you're not the main damage.
>>538537547
>>538537470I do though so fuck you
>>538537312almost like brooling doesn't win you the game :)
>>538537219I know, but in deadlock you have to aim and hit heads so that makes it more skilled by your own metric right? Since we're comparing properties of the games with no regards of how they actually play?
>>538537624>Same with shit like Kinetic Dash.Retard. 1600 for 40% fire rate is INSANELY good
doorman rework1- doorman throws kitchen knives that have bleed2- portals3- doorman throws hotel grenades4- doorman dashes at you with an execute
>>538537812yes the victor shouldn't have been brooling alone every time
>>538537954>damage on Tuesdays>ever goodNo, and you're a fucking retard if you think it is.
>>538531203People have repeatedly explained that her concept and abilities are fine and you just can't wrap your head around the idea of an assassin with a secondary theme based on cats that isn't a full blown catgirl.
>>538538040what the fuck are you talking about
>>538537762standard nerfs to cooldown times or damage on the bell and small reduction of stun on the cart would be enough but I see you'd rather make up arguments in your head to get mad about so I accept your concession
>>538538040>NOOOO IF IT'S NOT CONSTANTLY UP 24/7 IT'S SHIT>on an item that also triggers basically on-command and has no cooldown besides your stamina usagenot my fault you are too retarded to use it bro
>>538538148>he doesn't know about "Damage on Tuesdays"Grim...
>>538538268The bell won't get nerfed on a 45% wr character so you can forget about that, I can see the cart stun being touched up but overall he'll get buffs
>>538538040I use Kinetic Dash to reload Abram's gun.
>>538538268nah I don't know what you want. the bells are avoidable. he's not even the only support we have with a strong laning phase, viscous lane is even stronger.
>>538531020just wait for the push the cart mode they are currently working on
>>538538474>bells are avoidablethey really aren't with the 2m radius talent
>>538537879I dont really know what you are trying to argue here but Dota: you need to balance out farming your lane creeps and trading with the enemy heroes. You can pull creeps as in aggro on the enemy to get the creeps closer to your tower, use a camp to deny some creeps and maintain a more favourable lane equilibrium or you can just cut a wave. Deadlock: You just dont let the enemies deny your souls and then spam leftclick on the heroes
>>538538324You're the retard here. kinetic dash has no cooldown, it's only limited by how much stamina you have. 40% is extremely extremely good on any M1 character. There is no equivalent for it's price. It helps you melt enemies, it helps you farm and if you're playing a low ammo character like shiv or w/e it's literally more ammo efficient than any item that directly gives you ammo
>>538538040You pick when to use it nigga, it's not random
>>538538417I'll be honest I think /dlg/ cares about win rates a LOT more than anyone else does otherwise we'd have seen warden/seven nerfs months ago
>>538538545strafe around shooting him. if you see the bell/hear the clink, move out of the way. I want to know how long you have been complaining because doorman's laning is NOT as strong as geist's was just a few months ago
Why does Doorman want to complete the ritual? Is it just so he can be an observer of the events leading up to it and after?
>>538538551Yeah so you're a disingenuous faggot, not gonna waste more time arguing with you>inb4 I accept your concessionWhatever helps you sleep at night
>>538538551>spam left click on heroes lolahh of course! >olympic 100m dash: just run faster than everybody else lol>deadlift world record: just lift more weight than everybody else lol>world cup champion: just score more goals than everybody else lol
>>538538927He wants his hotel to be popular or something
>>538538551You just made yourself look very stupid. Post your clips and let's see how laning is so easy for you.
>>538538927He doesn't really care but if he wins he wants the Baroness to have a ton of ghost visitors.
>>538538551>Just click on their heads bro!!!Retard
>its a "shitters take or leach all the farm so you cant get any souls" episode
My rank might be low but wow even a retard can play billy, all you have to do is to stop yourself form going for heavy melee every time you ram someone.
>>538531203There's a very noticeable difference in quality between the 4 heroes that released earlier this year in January vs the 6 that released last month. You could say that the January releases were rushed out. Calico embodies this even more so. You just know that Valve was scrambling at the last minute, said "fuck it" and decided to slap together a nonsensical, painfully generic kit with very little testing. She's a lot closer to the earlier released heroes like Viscous and Shiv, but with none of the charm or soul that carries both of those designs.>>538538128Mindlessly mopping for the developers at the sight of actual criticism in the wild is the exact opposite of what the developers want you to do. Just saying.
>>538538551You also balance out farming and trading in Deadlock because reloading is a thing so if you shoot your opponents too often, you'll run out of bullets when you need to last hit souls. But if you only farm creeps, the reverse will happen and you'll get harassed by your opponents.
>>538540417he looks like a japanese bancho
>>538539814Shitters wont stop drooling so I have to sweep up the lanes or we lose all our walkers for free
>Don't pick fights while laning, just kill troopers ASAP>Don't participate in big fights, just farm and push lanes when no one else is there>Take objectives when there is an opportunity>WinIs this how you are supposed to play this game?
>>538531203what part of her kit is a mismatch of anything
>>538535474Nobody wants more dotaslop like stacking in this game.
>>538540154>Viscous>painfully generic kitBro what, the only generic thing about him is his 1Calico makes a lot more sense if you think of her as being designed for league of legends players with the way her abilities work, it's not bad to have a character like that for those players to latch on, and that on itself gives her a unique identity from the rest of the cast which is dota coded which isn't a bad thing either
>>538540654no one was saying deadlock should have stacking
>>538540326thats why you push the creeps first, lol? You push the wave in and then either poke or get the crates/jars>>538539048>>538539503>>538539763>pointless ad hominemits ok shills, you can stop for today
>want to play Victor>he's been nerfed into the ground and only works if you're 10k up>want to play Haze>she's been nerfed into the ground and only works if you're 10k upWhy does IceFag keep doing this?
Was this farting gas always here?
>>538540897Yes.
Don't get baited
>>538540829>haze, 51%>victor 47%hmm
>>538540824>thats why you push the creeps first, lol? You push the wave in and then either poke or get the crates/jarsFirstly, shoving the creep wave only works when you have the tools to do so. Mainly heroes with good waveclear or gun. Otherwise the lane will just get balanced out.Secondly, if you only focus on pushing one of your opponents would climb the bridge and shoot you from above.You need to balance pushing and trading.
>>538540554Ideally one person on your team should be doing that yes.Probably not if they're good at teamfights though
How do you maximize move speed as Victor? I tried fighting Calico as him, but she just leaves.
Builds and items are unironically more complicated than Dota but a big part of that is that you just have more item slots in general. Dota items are more impactful but that's because you have less slots and that means builds are generally more uniform. Not a lot of room for anything interesting in your builds. It's pretty much solved.
>>538540554I do nothing but hunt people farming jungle and split push as Drifter This works exceedingly well in shitlow
>>538541525Move speed can only go so far. Calico has dashes built into her kit and cat form gives her a ton of extra move speed. Instead of giving yourself more speed you need to cut off calicos. Slowing hex is a big one
>>538541539I want aghanim scepter in deadlock so bad
>>538541184Ill reply to you once I end the game
>>538541525Walking away is how you counter Victor
>>538537506bells dont do fucking anything late game, high spirit damage my fucking ass. maybe lane to early game the spirit damage on that can hurt but by the time you're team fighting, the bell's damage is NOTHING and the utility it provides isnt even that great either. I cannot understand people complaining about spirit doorman. its like complaining about a no-item geist just lobbing grenades at you. now, a gun doorman who properly stuns with cart, express shots your head, then bells to slow, then easily hits dmg-boosted headshots as you try to escape or fightback with whatever health you have left, THAT is actually threatening. not spirit bell spam lmao that shit is weak
>>538541772I want IceFrog to get into the ''remove passives'' phase and delete every on hit effect
>>538541873>65% win rate because players couldn't figure out how to walk
worth it to swap it to the 'new' health bars?
>>538541525PHANTOM STRIKE!
>>538538040It doesn't have a cooldown anymore grandpa. Maybe try playing the game instead of just shitposting in the thread
I should be allowed to build all 3 dash items and become dashman
>>538540694Nowhere did I say that Viscous was painfully generic. The only comparison I made was that they both had very minimal testing done (same with Shiv). Granted I probably should've said Mirage if I expected people to get confused on that enough to be the first thing they bring up as a rebuttal, but ehh.I genuinely have no idea where you got this "calico is supposed to be a league design hurr durr" theory from. If it's something you came up with, then congrats I guess. I hope it's wrong, otherwise Valve spent the greater part of a month making a clunkier Kayn ripoff. The dash part of leaping slash doesn't even do damage. That would be sacrilege in league.
>>538542130they're about as useful as having no healthbar at all
>>538541525>Phantom Strike>Slowing Hex>Warp StoneHow hard can this be?
>chinaman that cant understand english ruins chances of a comeback>next game>lane against a chinaman>torture him for the entire game
>>538542324A certain mcginnis player does this every game
>>538541873>run away>Victor boosts to chase and applies two movement slows on you, 3 if he bought mystic slow item
>>538542406the problem with victor is he can't use his AOE because he wants to stack spirit res. but if he stacks spirit res, that deprives him of stuff like warp stone or phantom strike early on. so he's a bad hero who is very awkward to play optimally
>>538531624I like it how all the other anons talked about "don't melee" and ignored the fact that laning as him is abysmal
I think people are sleeping on Focus Lens after the buff
>>538542648>Hate the Cold Front meta>Item has everything Victor needs including Spirit ResistFuck me im buying every item that has +spirit resist
>on haze>get matched with Infernus >get matched against Miku and Wrath>they take out our guardian at minute 6>get immensely bullied for 10 minutes>Miku finally fucks off to go shart all over other lanes>finally get to farm>gank her relentlessly after I finally catch up>end match 20/1 against her 1/15>even have 5k more objective damage Fuck Muki and the turret she rode in on.
>>538542889another big victor issue is that his kit is neutered if he falls behind. he does not have the utility of a mo ult/disarm/burrow knock up or an abrams wall charge.
>>538542371Alright I misunderstood you on the viscous part, my badI think calico is league coded because her 1 and 2 are low cd spammy abilities and she has an ability rotation (2>1>pewpew>4>1/2) which is reminiscent of league champions instead of the dota approach of the rest of the cast where every ability does its own thing for the most part (they can be chained together too but they rarely flow as well) and cooldowns are considerably higher even with investment.
>>538541685>>538542406What would you replace with Slowing Hex/Vortex Web?
Abrams really is the noobie pickI shat on this dude the entire game and even with tankbuster it took so long to kill himAnyways when are they buffing doorman bell, I'm able to 2 shot squishies but honestly it should be a one shot
>>538542542>it's actually possibleI'm fucking retarded I thought buying one locked you out of the othersOmw to become dashman
>>538543321Torment pulse
>>538543165all of the new heros flow relatively well. I wouldn't call combo synergy a league thing
>>538543321Expansion
Here's a fun game for you to play, /dlg/.>Head to the Community Hero Ideas forum>Try and find a non-support concept without a on-hit passive as their third ability.It's like trying to go in google maps and find a place in the third world without a ton of trash laying around or random dogs just chilling.
>>538543469Speaking of noobies, I play on high Initiate-low Seeker, and I haven't seen anyone play as The Doorman in many matches. Specifically, 16.
>>538531624>>538542653The actual answer is that yes, his lane is sub-par, but he's so good for the entire rest of the game that it barely matters
>>538543657No. Without it, Aura of Suffering is too small. But I guess it would matter less if the enemy had a hard time walking away.
>>538543741He's not very strong and can't carry a game unless fed, so his popularity fell off.I still like playing him even in shit ranks, and can always get him.
>spectating holliday player to learn how to play here>dude has god tier movement and mechanics>literally going unga bunga I'M BROOOOLING all game running it down dying the most stupid deaths
>>538544010Web gives some ability range anyways and will force people into your stink
How the FUCK do you carry this level of retard?My team had player #1, 2, 3, and 4, but this absolute imbecile managed to throw hard enough to cost us the game...
vindicta is the worst character in the game atmshe's just a stake bot>gun damage is shit>flight is shit>crow is shit>ult is shit
>>538543615I disagree, I think the only one that chains his abilities in a similar manner is billy, and even then his abilities have standard cooldowns so he doesn't feel as spammyMaybe I don't know how to explain it properly, I just know that after playing calico for quite a bit I came to the conclusion that she feels more like lol while other characters feel more like dota
>>538543657I wouldn't want to give that up because it gives spirit resist. Drop mystic regen. It's better for poke characters imo.
>>538544325They really listened to comp whining and nerfed a 45% winrate hero further
>>538544281That's a smurf fucking around.
>>538543794His kit feels designed to function in a solo lane environment and not against two people, even with a partner They should try and bump his lane survivability a bit given how there's no solo lanes anymore
>>538543321If you have 54k you may as well buy curse for her
>>538543702I don't think I've submitted more than a single kit with a on-hit passive kek
>>538544316You don't.
>>538544487>>538544010Mystic regen or torment pulse can be swapped, better get an arctic blast instead for even more slow
I hope that base entrance guardians get replaced with a unique objective. I remember seeing someone suggest a pair of living doors on the forum.
>>538545195No seriously:#41576851Tell me how we could have stopped that Yamato from throwing the match...
What's the point of Calico?Feels like she is just shit especially if her ult doesn't hit.
>>538545662I hope entire jungle gets replaced with anything other than a dps check mobs. Just fill it with minigames or puzzles, I'd prefer a team-based mario party jg over the Haze&Seven afk jerking grounds we got now
>>538545843She's a better Haze, unironically.
>>538545843She's a better Mina
>>538545981Explain yourself
>>538545951That would be so goofy. Imagine trying to solve a memory puzzle in the middle of a Deadlock match
>>538545723You can't stop a bad player like that unless you call him out and hope he listens to you. But otherwise I call bullshit, you can't lose the game if you have the best players on your side, even with one retard tagging along to feed. Source : I get carried every game
>>538545662Doors might be a bit much, since people should have the ability to get into their base for chasing down kills. What about Guardians that are themed after which base they're at, with melee workers with hardhats and sledgehammers and the other side as sorcerers that bonk people with staves?
Jesus Victor is so broken late game it's not even funny, basically solo carried a 5v6 game where Haze went afk (came back at the end fortunately, but we stood our ground for like 10 minutes while also having a useless Warden, basically 4v6)>>538541184how do I even start this post... Of course sometimes the enemy heroes can outpush you, this is called losing a lane and this happens because the game is assymetrical with different heroes, its the same stuff with league and dota, not idea why I even have to say this. Why is it losing the lane? Because your guardian will slowly get withered down, the enemy heroes can poke you freely and they get the crates/jars, creating an advantage for themselves. But compared to league/dota, laning in Deadlock is MUUUUCH easier. Every wave the healing minion heals you for 40 hp iirc and if he doesnt die and you stick close to him he can heal you again, also there is a lot of cover that you can use for peaking. And even then you get to choose from a lot of early items that can help you sustain (+3 hp regen/healing on a gun hit/healing on a melee hit/healing rite). The threat of dying on lane in deadlock is much lower than in dota, not to mention that healing items in dota are consumables while in deadlock they stay with you for the entire laning phase.I don't really get your point where the enemies will climb on a bridge if you focus on pushing, the minions are fighting around the said bridge so they would have to look down to kill creeps, a time when you can hit them for free. And outside of that, you could just farm under the said bridge and dash back if they come down to you, also there are these invisible zones you should utilize if the matchup allows it.Compared to the other mobas Deadlock's laning phase is child's play. Almost forgot to mention, if you got poked really hard you can just hide behind a wall, use your healing rite and you will still get the souls for the creeps that your lane partner is farming.
>>538546303Watch the replay and tell me I'm wrong.
what mental tricks do you guys use to keep yourselves interested in continuous farming throughout the game? after 10 minutes i just want to fight enemy heroes and my cs per minute plummets
>>538531491Doorman with refresher ultsSinclair ults doormanDoorman ults dude already in hotelHotelception
junglefaggotry in general is so gay. just remove it entirely instead of adding hecking wholesome amongus minigame.
>>538540417I Cannot Fucking Wait Til Morrissey Dies
Come up with the worst idea for an ultimate you can.>Swaps the target enemy hero with any of the other alive enemy heroes (wheel selection like in the chat wheel)
>>538546357drain tank victor takes forever to turn online, which is why his win rate is so low the higher ranks get. I find his more normal tank build to be much more stable although he's still a bit mediocre
>>538545843you can pick up the jar in cat form
>>538544501she wasn't nerfed enough. hope they nerf her again
>>538546294Warden and Seven players no longer able to farm, game = fixed
>>538546580global 2 second stun on enemy team, they'd do it too
I suck at making builds could someone give some pointers on what items should go for if I'm playing Drifter? If no one else is getting active items to disturb ultimates should I still go for curse or knockdown or something else?
>>538543741I see some great use out of him in seeker/alchemist matches. However, I play in a 4-6 stack so having that instant communication is pretty vital for telegraphing when someone is looking gapeable and rapeable thanks to the 6 second hallway of death.
>>538546740just pick gun items and make yourself as tanky as possible it's really no secret. hero is busted and will outdamage everyone anyway.
>>538546581yeah, it was my 1st game as him and he has a pretty chill laning phase where you can heal yourself up off cooldown, after the laning phase you are pretty weak and just go to afk farm on a sidelane, but once you do come online it's gg
Just beat a team who had a Talon that only did 100 obj damage. Low MMR is a magical place.
>>538546580Refreshes the cooldown of your last ability used, but a bug causes it to only refresh itself.
>>538546357>Of course sometimes the enemy heroes can outpush you, this is called losing a laneSee it's not as simple as saying "just push lol". Some heroes are good at pushing, but most of the time you'll balance out in the middle. Clearing is not as simple as it seems.>Every wave the healing minion heals you for 40 hp iirc and if he doesnt die and you stick close to him he can heal you againThat's why everyone with a brain would always kill it first.>I don't really get your point where the enemies will climb on a bridge if you focus on pushing, the minions are fighting around the said bridge so they would have to look down to kill creeps, a time when you can hit them for free.You have two opponents. They will switch between farming and poking and if you and your lane partner only focus on farming, one of you will eventually get low enough to risk dying.>if you got poked really hard you can just hide behind a wall, use your healing rite and you will still get the souls for the creeps that your lane partner is farming.And when that happens, your partner will be left 1v2. Then he would need to healing rite. Then you'll be left 1v2. Repeat this enough times and you'll lose lane.Dying used to be easier actually,
Rate my hero concept /dlg/Jiangshi vampire that removed the bones on her arms to counteract the rigor mortis, so now she has stretchy armsGun: Her arms, about 20m range, her arm needs to reach the target and come back before she can shoot again, meaning she naturally has higher firerate at shorter ranges and lower at higher ranges.1: Yamato slash but it's a punch, deals less damage and doesn't pierce, if it hits a target they are pushed back, if they hit a wall they receive extra damage and are stunned briefly (0,5s), if an airborne enemy is hit against the ground it counts as if hitting a wall2: Very fast and short dash, receives a big firerate buff for 1 second after using it. Holds charges.3: Stretches her arm and grabs an enemy dealing slight spirit damage, if it hits an airborne enemy she slams them into the ground stunning them and dealing spirit damage based on how high up the ground they were. If it hits a grounded enemy she pulls herself towards the enemy and does another hit that deals melee damage.4: Reveals 2 extra arms she attached to herself and her attacks deal a bit of extra spirit damage for the duration. The arms behave like her normal gun effectively doubling her firerate but shoot automatically at enemies within her vision regardless of what she's doing (unless stunned or disarmed). The arms prioritize enemy heroes closer to the center of the crosshair and those she damaged recently.
>>538547337>vampirestop
>>538547396We will have a character for every kind of vampire and (You) will like it
>>5385471561 team loses a lane and the other wins, i dont know what you are trying to argue here
>>538540564besides just being yamato without any of the nuance? she's a melee character who can't hit right in front of her with her melee ability she's a character with a short range nuke/cooldown refresh ult that implies a combo playstyle, but none of her moves actually combo together at allshe's a close range shotgun character with an ability dedicated to running away from fights to regen/take boxesshe's a graceful assassin with a move where she throws a random spread of grenades and hopes they land instead of going for a precise strikeshe stinks.
Rate my Hero Concept:A Nazi Werewolf named Hanz.1 - Goosestep2 - Roman Salute3 - Heil Wolfler4 - Gasses a Rat (large nose)
>>538547337>some chink shitstopped reading there
>teammate makes a really bad call>gets called out>goes catatonic and throws the match with his faggot friend>profile privateOh what I would give to be able to send messages to people post game. No friend request needed. Just message the fucker and unleash hate.
>>538547337>this game needs a third vampire in the roster>this vampire needs a close range slash just like both of the other vampires>this vampire needs a fast and short dash just like one of the other vampires>let's just copy a mechanic from lash for some reason>eeeh i got bored, let's just put a weapon buff on her ult *hits nicotine vape*
>>538547573I'm saying in Deadlock you still have to balance farming and trading to win lane. Saying>thats why you push the creeps first, lol? You push the wave in and then either poke or get the crates/jarsis oversimplifying it.
>>538547676>she's a melee character who can't hit right in front of her with her melee abilityit's a gap closer>but none of her moves actually combo together at allleap bombs ult bombs leap again>with an ability dedicated to running away from fights to regen/take boxesor an ability to run around and find targets to assassinate
>>538546580worms armageddon kamikaze that insta-kills the hero you hit and yourself, but your respawn timers are halved
>>538547936That seems familiar
best custom kit maker: igorNLI fucking KNEEL before this man
>>538548005idk if there's something like that in dota or lol or w/e i never played a moba besides thisit would work similar to drogoz's ult from paladin i'd guess, but it also kills you and with worse movement control but faster
>>538546580Aoe which allows friendly fire inside >>538547936Dude, Techies is a low bar
>>538547929>it's a gap closerwhy does she need a gap closer when she has catform? because catform can't actually be used in fights. it's not yamato rope or pocket teleport, moves that actually close gaps and who are on characters that can actually dump all their cooldowns and nuke you instead of missing because half her grenades flew behind the target with 0 splash and her leap missed because you again landed behind them and she doesn't have a hitbox until she stops moving.she feels like yamato over a year ago where you would see her 3 sword slash hit someone and it didn't actually register, extremely buggy hitreg on all her shit
>>538548246>why does she need a gap closer when she has catform? because catform can't actually be used in fightsthere you have it
>>538548201There used to be one.
>>538547337I'm all for hero concepts based on folklore of various cultures, but we don't need another vampire. We already have 2.5 (I count Geist as a half of a vampire since her abilities are more vampire themed than those of the 2 actual vampires).
Rate my skillshot shield ult concept for a support kit I am currently making.Pass the Baton80s Cooldown | 4s DurationBuffs from abilities and items used nearby drop shards that can be picked up and stored into your baton.Toss your baton forward, granting every ally hit with it a barrier + the buff stored within.* 150 Barrier (+1.4 x Spirit)Non-ultimate buffs granted from this effect can still be removed by certain effects.Tier 1: +2s DurationTier 2: -30s CooldownTier 3: +1 Buff storedCurrently, I think the cooldown might be a little low right now. The upgrades will also need some more work, though I am lost on how.
the official list is out
>>538548452nah, geist is more of a dorian grey/succubus type than a vampire
I am so fucking bad at this game it's unreal. I can't aim, I can't farm, I'm last in souls during and after the laning phase every game. It's like nothing from the 20 years of Dota I played carries over at all. I'm not like amazing at Dota or anything but I was at least competent I almost hit 5k MMR at one point when 7k was like the top echelon of players.
>>538548530Whoever made that is retarded.
>>538548236>>538548331kek no wonder this dude is so memed herealthough it seems like an aoe effect, i was thinking of it more as a single-target 1-for-1 trade
What the fuck is Warden's ult even supposed to be? Like thematically?
>>538548327>spend 1 ability running around the map to find target>spend 2nd ability to close the gap>you are left with shitty grenades that cant hit anyone, probably the worst shotgun in the game, and ultjust compare this with drifter, who instead of a shitty cat that turns your character off has a passive that gives him a speed boost AND maphack AND scaling damage on kill to encourage assassinating stay bitches. who has a gap closer instant teleport AND a bleed on the same move, who has a melee ability that helps his wave clear AND gives them a debuff to help assassinate targets AND rewards you for being up close. who has an ult that does something unique instead of being yamato ult 2>but drifter is bullshitmaybe, but he's also a lot more interesting to play then calico.
>>5385487381 man vs the world
>>538536656>>538541095>>538548530????????
>>538548530retard
>Hero suggestionsI don't give a fuck about DPS heroes. Just give me another Paige-like support.
>>538543321I still don't fully understand why Torment pulse would ever be needed, it's like a fucking drop of water in a heroes kit almost every time
>>538548787Yeah but what is it, some triangle of DoT shit? Just a random purple damaging thingy
Victor and Shiv mains downplaying their hero
>>538548095that guy's kits are pure timmy with a vague hint of spike, so they're not even fun or balanced. Don't even get me started on their item suggestions.
>>538548530As it turns out it was actually retarded waifufags dragging Mina down.
>>538548581Not that surprising. It's a match flow is similar to that of Dota 2 (the MOBA part), but the actual moment to moment gameplay (the TPS part) is very different. How long have you been playing Deadlock?
>>538548889Actually scratch that, I need 3 more to fill up my roster
>>538549095I started when they announced the 6 new heroes
>>538548987>VictorTrue>ShivHe really is ass
>>538549019oh I know, but I love how brazen he is about it. he flames the dev team in one of them and basically just wants vyper + infernus or vyper + seven and it makes me kek everytime
>>538548581>hmm I will abandon lane to farm neutrals>hmmmm a fight is happening? nah I must farm>wait a minute why am I the same soul level as the players who sat in lane?>alright i'll use my farm to push an advantage>wait, I dont have one, all I did was not help contest objectives to be on par with someone who did
>>538548915Sometimes, you need that drop of water to finish off someone. It's passive and constant damage to anyone too close to you.
>>538548889You'd love my next two hero designs, lol.
What’s a good channel for high ranked / skillful comp games. 7 games from night shift a week isn’t enough.
Haze players are always so salty
>>538549023that didn't help, but the main problem with mina was she got fucked in lane and people didn't realize building for ult was so good if you use it rightthen her lane healing got buffed, her passive needs 1 less shot and also got buffed damage/scaling so she can better survive getting bullied in lane, and her ult has lower cooldown and naturally scales better because you can land her passive way more
>>538548987>Literally everyone downplaying Infernus
>>538548915>Play Torment Pulse/Escalating exposure Mole Man.>Torment Pulse is the Lion's share of my damage output according to the scoreboardIt just werks
>>538549197Hero with the potential to deny the entire enemy team of 1/4th of their healthbars and Bloodletting being so buffed atm I struggle to believe that. His dash also practically has no cooldown at lvl3 if you just get imbued CDR.
>>538548797put up the ranks to people who arent mentally retarded
>>538549356I had an Infernus deal 1100 afterburn to me in 3 seconds yesterday. While I was on Colossus
What are some character concepts that seem perfect for this setting?>circus ringmaster>golden age superhero >black and white slapstick cartoon
>>538549339yeah, now she shoots you from 30m in the body 4 times and you take 200+ damage
>>538549386Mo and Krill's damage output/peak damage potential is so fucking low these days that you really are forced into building something like TP to squeeze out any fucking damage at all
>>538549656>this is a problem but characters like geist/talon doing it by pressing 1 and even if you dash jump the second the move activates you still get hit is fine
my mokrill build is building as much green items as possible until I get Witchblade, where I'm basically unkillable
>>538549228>look it up>its realbro's even dooming about the new heroes a whole month before we even knew anything about their gameplay. holy kek my sides.
Anything I should do other than building tankbuster to murder abrams?I hate how this dude just refuses to die and gets away ever time
>>538540154Not going to deny the first paragraph, I don't think any of those heroes need an utter overhaul but they could use a few more looks over. The thing is this is true of basically the entire cast besides the new 6. Like there's outliers in heroes like Yamato, and Lash (though I'd make the argument Lash deserves a hard look too because they've clearly decided he isn't allowed to be a gun character but he still has awkward gun-related ability upgrades that are basically useless on him), but for the most part the cast doesn't stack up against the newest offerings.On the subject of Calico specifically, I thought she had the most interesting kit on her full release out of the 4, and it was an insane improvement over the hero labs version. You want a confusing mish mosh of abilities that don't inform her character or her role, that was it. She was still supposed to be an assassin even then but she had uhhh territory control totems and uhhh displacement ability and uhhh super bad feel one click melee ability and uhhhh objectively inferior stealth ability on an Ult CD. Like fuck it was so awkward.
>>538549645A literal cartoon character who can turn into 2D to avoid bullets like Strinova characters would be cool
>>538547337I like the kit but it reminds me more of viscous than a vampire, you might as well just make it some type of monster at that point. Could also be some type of yoga practitioner but then everybody would think that Valve copied Street Fighter.Here's an idea for the 2, which seems like the most uninspired part: the hero stretches both arms forward like a Bebop hook, if it lands, you pull yourself and the enemy hero towards each other, when you get close, you will do a somersault in the air and slam the enemy into the ground, slowing them significantly for a few seconds and dealing AEO damage. If aimed at an ally, it just pulls you towards them. Go ahead and post it on the forums, who knows.
>>538549386That's because Mo & Krill is more OP than Victor. Tankier, better heal, better ultimate and better damage.
>>538540554Anyone who says Victor isn't at least strong is a retard. Granted, I haven't seen a lot of people say this.
>>538549819holy fucking strawman
I CAN'T FUCKING AIM
mmmm shadow wife wins games
>>538550047>Victor now has to spend one slot getting Expansion in order to be just as strong as he was before nerfoh no he's unusable ;_;
>>538550047what pisslow shit am i watching
>>538549290Anything with a combination of ally-targeted heals/buffs and CC, I would play.
Daily reminder that Doorman is a mastermind type character and if you cant predict your enemies game plan you should leave him for better players
>>538550331Aiming takes a lot of practice! Do you play KBM or controller?
>>538550451>15+ minute laning phaseit's kino
>>538550602KBM of course.Do people actually fuckin play this game on controller?
>>538550451Russian Seeker 1.
>>538550331Try Lash, Mo and Krill, Seven, Dynamo, Abrams and Shiv. They either tools to slow/stun enemies for easy tracking, don't focus on their gun or can build their spirit bursting abilities while playing up close making for easier aiming.
Rate my hero ideaName: Samson CrockettLore: A Confederate ghost from the Civil War and self-proclaimed heir of American hero, Davy Crockett. His rest was disturbed after the first maelstrom which brought magic into the world, and has seen that the Yankees have defeated the South, and so he launches a one-man crusade against the North. Should he win he will wish Southern Independence from the patrons.Gun: A musket called "Dixie's Whistle". It fires one shot at a time, but thanks to being magical it doesn't reload as slow as a regular musket, instead it functions more like a bolt-action.First Ability: Tennessee Sharpshootin'. A single piercing shot that goes through walls and stuns enemies for .5 seconds if struck in the head.Second Ability: Georgia Charge. Crockett fixes his bayonet and charges forward. If he catches a hero he will do a leaping lunge and plunge his bayonet into them, dealing massive damage.Third Ability: Texas Welcome. Fires a spectral barrage of cannons from the sky at the target location, which then creeps forward in a line dealing Spirit damage.Ultimate ability: Stars and Bars. Raises the flag of Dixie, removing all crowd control effects from Crockett and nearby allies. Any crowd control effects dealt during that time are instead converted to minor Spirit damage to Crockett.Crockett will have special lines to Infernus, implying that his grand pappy owned Infernus' grand pappy
>>538550349Haze, Calico and Wraith (even though she's indian like Kamala Harris) mog the rest of the Deadlock chick roster
>>538550602nta but who in the fuck would be using a controller in the most aim intensive game
>>538549973ALSO, it'd be cool if you could cancel the 2 mid air and keep your momentum as a way to disrupt the enemy, which would also keep the enemy flying towards your team
>>538550489Demoman prepared me for a life of carts and doors
Glad to see that we're posting and discussing concepts for heroes in this thread. A lot of the fun and allure of deadlock is the slight chance for anybody to influence development in a creative way. There's dota-allstars oldheads coming out of woodworks to post their ideas and concepts, that seems very wholesome to me.
>>538550625its insane>the calico does a single dash and no other abilities while she has ult up to use>calico dodges INTO the victor>seven is less than 9k, half health
>>538550772you forgot vyper dough
>>538550047>>538550451This takes me back. Remember /dlg/ used to have a proud pisslow anon who would post his "giga plays" here? Fun times
>>538550760Only if he calls Infernus a nigger when he kills him>Crockett will have special lines to Infernus, implying that his grand pappy owned Infernus' grand pappy Enslaving demon kangs could prove difficult so idk
>>538550819all ignored in favor of furry concept art threads
>>538550751>ShivHe's my most played hero. I still can't fucking aim with him either. I must have 20% accuracy or lower on my knife throws.
>Bot match button is a picture of Dynamo>Even though Bebop is right thereDynamo is a robot theory
>>538550760I'd immediately main this if it got added.
Here's my idea for a hero.>doesn't post it on the forums
>>538551152as it should
>>538551125The greatest black demon falls before even the meekest white Christian
How many hispanics will main Priest day one?
>>538548452>>538549973>>538550787The idea of a jiangshi vampire was mainly because I want a character that punches stuff as its main way of dealing damage, and the idea of something that usually has a rigid body getting a stretchy one by removing its bones seemed rad. But it could be a dhalsim clone for all I care, I just want to punchThat 2 seems rad, thanks for the idea. I'm gonna tinker with the concept a bit more and then I'll post it on the forums.
>>538550714>>538550784I do! The controller scheme is very complex, layered but incredibly good! But I have 3 years of experience with custom settings playing ranked Fortnite. The scheme was made with the Steam Deck in mind so it takes advantage of every feature on my Dualsense, including gyro and trackpad. Anyhow, I reccommend actually lowering your sensitivity and slowly ramping up until you feel comfortable. Each set up is different so your available mouse space can vary, I reccommend having as much space as possible, using your arm for wider movement and your wrists for micro adjustments. Some people use their fingers for subtle drag, but I've never been able to make that work.
>>538550982I was about to say that the only thing I'm proud of in that webm is my Calico's 2 dodge at 0:21, but then I realized that I was probably too close to her for me to get hit by it anyway. I hope that someday, I'll get good enough at this game to not get second hand embarrassment when rewatching my matches.
>>538551152It's the kit that matters.I've posted nothing but kits with no artwork, and they still get a couple views and comments here and there (doubly so for item suggestions, which is what I suggest you to make if you can't art very well).
>>538551689yea that's cool bro w- HOLY SHIT A GIANT RAT? A GIANT MAGGOT HERO? UPVOTED
>>538549645>mothman>Innsmouth resident>actualy evil demonic entityYes we need more monstrosities in the game instead of le funny and qurky humans
>>538551189I was thinking about this yesterday as well. There is actually a match start dialog between them where Bebop confuses Dynamo for a fellow machine. It also implies that Bebop has a soul. Does this mean that he could become a ghost if he died?
>>538551291You can gather feedback here first and post shit on the forum afterwards>>538551470Doesn't matter, they will have to wait in line cus I'm going to play him
>>538550982the dynamo player?
>>538552079Yeah, him LMAOOOOOOOOO
>>538551189bebop still has a shitty neon prime model
>>538551470Priests are white culture. I will be maining him.
If you hate The Doorman just admit you're a nigger who can't handle some whiteboy swag
>>538550760>Confederate ghostbased. love anything scooby-doo related
>>538551937Maybe? Bebop has another voiceline with Kelvin where he claims souls getting infused into a golem is a well known and mundane process.
would it be too broken if you could damage enemies during vyper ult? maybe even give her a damage boost against them like medusa
give doorman an aperture scientist outfit
>>538552228He doesn't look like a mormon though
>>538552228he's an irish catholic thobeit
>>538552338Yes. The idea is to build up he venom while the enemy is immobilized.
so funny when players using broken heroes to inflate their elo start getting big egos
What are the best characters to play if you have a low framerate?
>>538552803Abrams
>Cold Front requires your character to be some-what close to the enemy to use>multiple guides recommend Cold Front on Mina, the most fragile hero in the gameIt's for farming + spirit resistance on her, isn't it?
>>538551291I decided to post something (>>538548489) here because I want honest (maybe even a little brutal) feedback on my stuff before I upload it to the forums. Anyways, it seems to have gotten zero attention, so here's a little more context:>Primary is a short range baton swing. Doesn't scale off melee.>Secondary plays a stock clown honk.>6 stamina, but cannot recover stamina naturally. -25% to both resists.>First ability recovers all your stamina, but lengthy cooldown with a equally large health cost.>Second ability is a passive that gives you increasingly faster swings just for attacking + bonuses for maxing out your passive stacks.>third is a very short dash that eventually grants a very brief invincibility window as it's last upgrade
>>538552803mo
>>538550982>>538552079
>>538552880It's for -1600 souls.
>>538552880No. You need to be close to the enemy to use Rake anyway.
>>538552996Huh I didnt know dynamo port reloaded your gun
>>538551868Then just gen some furry porno lil bro. I believe in you.
>>538552803None of them, get a better PC
>>538552880>t. Plays Mina like a pussy and only plinks for 10 damage a shot at maximum range while never activating Love Bite
>>538552996>4 lanes
>>538553131I hope you're new
I don't miss 4 lanesI don't miss HMCI don't want techies in deadlocksorry not sorry
>>538553361I am
>>538553345I miss 4 lanes. But I don't miss the solo lanes. As such we should increase the player count to 8v8.
>>538553480This calls for the map size increase too
>>5385534808v8 would be such chaos in team fights.
>>538551470All of them, especially if he has a carry kit.
>>538553345>>538553480There should be a 4v4 and 8v8 modes with their own maps alongside the default mode.
>want to play deadlock>also want to play 2XKONon-white bros our plates are full.
>>538552892The stamina thing seems too gimmicky and I don't think it brings much to the character other than having -1 basic ability, which seems like an ability that exist to purposely nerf the character, it isn't a good feel.The primary needs some range, if drifter didn't have a melee m1 I doubt any hero will, being able to confirm and deny souls is a core part of the game and every hero needs some way to interact with it.
>>538553058There doesn't seem to be a lot of options for her regarding T2 Spirit Items. Spirit Sap mite b cool, though. 12 seconds long and 40m range seems promising.
how come in side lanes, only 1 side gets a small camp?
>>538551871Mothman would be perfect even if is from the 60s (Billy is inspired by the 80s afterall)
>>538545723Someone?
>>538553824You don't. How many times do you need someone to say this...?
>>538553824Why are you trauma dumping on us we're screwed by matchmaking all the same here.
>>538553741Im more bothered by only one Park side having airvent launch to the buff crystal
>>538548915torment pulse is like the opposite of a noob trapyou read and it looks like it's abysmal dogshit but in practice it deals a fuck ton of damage, specially for a T3 itemlike, people buy cold front to deal just 100 damage every like 24 seconds and torment pulse by itself deal 120 damage every 5 seconds, it scales ridiculously well combined with transcendent cooldown toolike mid-late game just being close to an enemy for 5 seconds chunks them for 400 damage, and it also has great synergy with EE and any on-spirit debuff
>>538554093Another underrated aspect is it hits two targets at once, doubling its damage output.
>>538554093What makes cold front so good is that it's instant damage which helps characters like Lash get closer to an instakill. Torment pulse is not bad though and does better than cold front on specifically close range non-burst characters. The reason torment pulse is for close range characters only whereas cold front works on many more non-close range characters is again, burst damage in a single moment you're close versus needing to stay close to the enemy for a prolonged period of time.
>>538553287I wish
>>5385534808v8 but somehow I'm still the only one who bought Knockdown
>>538554093As a dota boomer, I already knew it was a good item from the description. Plus the majority of heroes that get Torment Pulse are good.
>pop unstoppable>walk towards enemy doormanwhat now mother fucker can't push me away this time
>>538555084>opens door>walks through it>closes behind him before you can follow throughWhat now big boy?
>>538550982big hat? i remember when he had a meltdown over custom games
>>538554497yeah that toopeople act like that's pointless but it helps you kill NPCs a lot faster and it comes up in teamfights a lot too>>538554501yeah i'm not saying they are the same item but even then torment pulse doesn't need that much time to get the same damage and it can get potentially a fuckton more, that's why i made the comparison since i'm trying to explain its actual power output by comparing it to a simpler to understand item that is more regularly usedheroes that only want to be close for a very short time like mina or lash will obviously want a single-use burst instead of a constant damage dealeralthough most builds/heroes that want torment pulse also want cold front
>>538555797FUCKING DOORNIGGERS
victor's got some bad news to share with everyone...
>>538555976>although most builds/heroes that want torment pulse also want cold frontyeah good point why not both
>>538556040>the pain will be worth it
>>538556040Victor it would easier to make a list of the place Israel *hasn't* bombed.
>>538554093How do you get to this stat screen
>>538555915it’s always the dynamo spergsI called stomp build shit, and they kept crying about how black I am unable to actually justify the build
>>538555915I think they're talking about the guy who was shilling his youtube videos with his shitty gun dynamo gameplay
>>538530246I only have 65 hours on this game. I know I am a shitter but i want to learn how to carry games on my own because I have been losing too much recently and I realized I can't really rely on teammate to cooperate on the shit ranks that I am in. i lost count on how many times I ulted with dyanmo or mo&krill and i have seen the team not follow it up, or someone feed the other team carry before the 10 minute mark.I played infernus recently and even though I lost i felt like I had way more impact in the match then what I usually do with other characters
>>538556040victor would be the kind of guy that keeps up with world news and tells you about it
>>538556040>israel bombing basically everyoneThere's no way this ends well for Israel, right? Are they expecting America to go beyond writing blank checks and actually put boots on the ground for them?
>>538556498you can tell because he's sad all the time
>>538556397Maybe it's a different fag then. I just remember big hat spamming shitter dynamo webms constantly
>>538556676He played support Dynamo
>>538556558Stop being anti-semitic
>>538556558Nothing is too much for our greatest ally.
>>538556558this is /dlg/, anonit's almost certainly going to backfire spectacularly
>the out-of-date graphics box keeps popping up every time I boot up the game despite running at 1080p 60fps flawlessly without having to touch anything on the video optionsI am not upgrading my 1650ti to whatever latest slop tech nvidia is scamming people out of their money, Valve
>>538557202You will upgrade your GPU every 3 years. You will consume. You will upgrade your drivers.
Which hero would be the most likely to somehow get pregnant after topping?
>>538557828vyper
>>538557828Sinclair
>>538556558Israeli hero with global ult when?
>>538555915>>538556676>>538556709Actually BigHat
>>538558290this should say dynamo
>>538558290>spoilerBasedEuropeans are weak minded animals who lash out at anyone but the islamic jihadist raping their nations
>>538558290This guy became like a fansly femboy btw
>hey guys i play support characters as straight gun!>is completely mentally illwuzzat about
>gun supportHIS NAMEIS MIRAGE
>>538558443Yet you are mindbroken by them
I need more Doorman images
>>538558878FOR THE DJINN
>>538558929why's he look like butthead
>>538559253Because Jerma does and Jerma is the most disarming man you could ever encounter
>>538535363Trve... He's one of those heroes you keep on roster just based on character
>>538551483>I want a character that punches stuff as its main way of dealing damage
damn i love the fov config fix
>>538551483Deadlock's melee combat system is underbaked and underutilized, sadly.
>>538552880>It's for farming + spirit resistance on her, isn't it?these but also the movement slow helps you escape people rushing you down and mina is like a tf2 spy where she's squishy but sometimes needs to be right up someones ass for rake finisher so you might as well get an extra hit in there
for me its spirit drifter
they should make sinclair chinese
>>538558528the inhouse arc of /dlg/ were some dark times
pröööhpill me on Weighted shots. What is the purpose of this item? It seems like a lot of random stats and negative stats. Is it actually good?
inhouses...
>>538560313I still remember anons bragging about their completely imaginary Nekoscores. Unironically lead to Valve adding ranks to their closed alpha.
>>538560419It's good on close range brawlers that want to live a long time.
>>538560621Hidden MMR was always a thing though.
>>538560621>Complain about imbalanced heroes>Post your Nekoscore, scrub
>>538560313inhouses are always breeding ground for trannies and attention whores
>>538552996How is that pisslow exactly? Also this kind of seems schizo tier ngl
>>538560942That webm is unironically one of the better ones. Dude was so proud of it he spammed it for three whole days.
>people wanting gun dynamo to be strong again just want to play him as a M1 hero with a teleport reloadlmao
>>538552996i can't believe people were still defending the old icons a couple months ago
>>538561068I remember there being two. One had the YouTube channel and I forgot the name. Other just posted gun Dynamo webms. I just brushed them as them being new and the game being new. Gotta start somewhere, but I do recall the YouTuber being insanely retarded and obnoxious even in his shitty videos that he spammed here.
>>538530246>there will never be a werewolf hero>instead every halloween all the heroes look like that and with special voicelinesthoughts
>>538552996I miss wraith ultAlso what was supposed to be the play there
>>538561205I don't care what they say drifter is a werewolf
>>538560419Secret S-tier item on Abrams.
>>538560419works great if your characters is always on peoples faces or at least not in the back like a vindicta so the negative bullet velocity doesn't matterthe stamina recovery does suck tho...
>>538556358on the match stats scren there's a "view graphs" thing in the bottom middle, click it then go in the graph type (at the top left corner) to damage dealt by type and click in the hero you wanna look at
>>538560419Bullet Velocity is generally a non-stat, 80% of the heroes have a high enough bullet velocity to not care about that reduction, the time where it is most relevant is in landing stage for soul confirms and you aren't rushing weighted bullets as an in-lane item.Stamina recovery is similarly sort of a non-stat, either you never cared about it or you were already buying stamina boosting items that counteract that drawback.So, you get a very respectable chunk of flat +% weapon damage with no conditions attached unlike basically everything other weapon damage t3, and a couple other nice side stats on top.
>>538560419buy because elephantanyone who buys point blank
We're posting webm's of Dynamo?
>>538549965im growing tired of minagooning gachatards stinking up the thread
I HAVE NO FUCKING MONEY EVERY GAME IT'S THE FUCKING SAME IM LAST EVERY FUCKING GAME
>>538560419it's basically point blank 2: electric boogalobut actually kinda good instead of unfettered ass
>>538561580lmao bamboozled
>>538561721>I HAVE NO FUCKING MONEY EVERY GAMEThere's guides you can look up on the Internet for this
>>538561850Kill yourself.
@grok how do i farm in deadlock
When does the Ellen Mclain voiced hero come out?
>>538562048Deadlock, Valve's third-person MOBA-shooter hybrid, revolves around collecting Souls as your primary resource (similar to gold in other MOBAs). Souls are used to purchase and upgrade items that power up your hero, making farming essential for gaining an edge over opponents. Farming involves killing AI enemies (like lane minions called Troopers), neutral monsters (Creepers in jungle camps), and interacting with map objects. The goal is to maximize Souls while minimizing risks, especially during the early laning phase.Farming efficiency separates good players from great ones—focus on last-hitting (securing the killing blow) to claim Souls, and use melee attacks when safe for automatic collection. After 10 minutes, Souls from Troopers go entirely into a collectible orb, so prioritize securing it in contested areas. Always farm when you can't safely push lanes or join fights.
be honest, how often do you use the wall bounce or the corner boost, especially in combinations?i can't pull them off so i stick to the dash, double jump and bounce pad
>>538562048@bebop is this real?
here's my idea since the game needs a speedster and I'm not giving up (also, I changed his 2 after some feedback here a couple of weeks ago).ELECTROSWING>his main gimmick is maintaining high movement speed to buff his abilities through an energy bar>has low cooldowns but also low damage>spirit build feels like playing shotgun Scout by going in, casting 1 and running away. Gun build is like playing pistol Scout running circles around enemies doing low damage>1 casts electricity in an arc in front of you to damage enemies>2 dashes towards your cursor. You can use it to get close to the enemy or escape. If you collide with an enemy, you will push them away or knock them to the floor if they are airborne. When you jump to stomp them, you propel yourself forward like a Lash 2. If the enemy hits a wall or the floor, they are stunned for 0.8 seconds and are slowed down>3 gives you a lot of energy for 8 seconds every time you dash, but it'll be all gone after it ends>4 gives you 4 long and fast dashes that stun and deal damage, if you hit a wall, you will stick to it for a momenthttps://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/electroswing-glass-cannon-speedster-w-some-concept-art.9089/#post-57000
When we get to make custom maps jump maps are gonna be fun
>>538562338i hope the skyrunner hero with ricocheting bullets and a webslinging ability gets in
>>538553131>reloadHis quantum reloads all ammo, so it's good for team pushing objectives right at the start.If he upgrades it, it gives 25% fire rate to all team mates teleported.If he upgrades it to 3, it gives extra ammo ontop of reloading yours.If you do reload team mate guns be ready for some "wtf Dynamo why you do this cyka blyat" type of retarded responses, especially in mid or pushing Walkers.
>>538562554I swear I'm gonna vote 300 times for skyrunner the second he's revealed
>>538562048>win or lose lane>wait for your retard teammate leave to (shittily) farm forest or "help" other lanes>keep farming and take all the boxes when no creeps
>>538560880>Retard consistently flicks aimbot on/off like everyone else wouldn't notice
>>538562964I'm that retard teammate how do I farm forest effectively?
>>538563152you do it when there's no lane creeps to kill or you have teammate grabbing them and do it fast.I dunno tho im a shitter
>>538563152As Paige I usually let my teammates farm lane because I'm just a low priority support. Barrier self, use both AoEs, activate Split Shot, and fire away.
>>538561721denials? sinners? neutral camps? fucking box runs?>Yamatooh you're a brooler, nvm
>>538562904I haven't seen people mad about getting entangled since last september
>>538559554He has a shottyI want a punch PUNCH character
Which would be stronger in this current meta, one support + four cores with higher net worth, or five cores of equal net worth?
>>538563893what the fuck are sinners? and box runs are cancer system that shit should be taken further away from lanes. It should be encouraging some amount of roaming not leaving your having to uber maximize your farm by pushing out lanes ASAP so you could go attack inanimate objects.
>>538561721if you're a brawling retard buy collectors 2nd or 3rd item
I miss old midboss temple and rejuv, it feels like no one wants to go mid anymore
>reactivates your memory of ammo scavenger for no reason
>>538560313True there were some shitters, but I always had fun. Coming back my rank has permanently decayed and there’s 0 comms regardless
is gun dynamo viable or do I go spirit dynamo?
>>538564815leaving your lane*I had a stroke in the middle of that sentence
>>538560743Yeah but you need a point of reference if your scoring system is going to be accurate and some third-party was trying to guess it via replays and by assuming that the "pros" were already at highest MMR level. The fact that anons and streamers went crazy about their imaginary scores is embarrassing when there was so much room for error.
>>538564369a character who only shoots would not be able to participate in the laning stage as they cannot play the balloon game without parry being spammed on top of them.Stop sniffing plastic cement for 5 seconds and take your hand out of your pants
>>538560419build this with juggernaut. or frenzy. honestly any items that increase move speed and this is a goated item. fuck stamina, all my homies hate stamina
I miss the bratlock drawfag, did he kill himself after finishing Ivy?
>>538562338I've actually been typing up my feedback there right as we speak. Surprised to see you here.
>>538565523should have been made into a portrait mod, that would have slapped
>>538564185Try now.
>>538565087The watch tab was sorted by hidden MMR.
>>538565523he peaked there and decided to never draw again because it'd be pointless
>>538565119you're thinking small, and it's because of that same mentality that the game will never have unique and cool weapons such as a bazooka, grenade launcher, flame throwers, cannons, boomerangs, throwing knives, a bruce lee monk or even just a shotgun that actually feels like one. All you need to do in order to make those characters viable in the laning phase is giving them an alt fire that throws a rock, or channels for one second in order to execute a trooper.
>>538530693YES, OH MY GOD YES
>>538565119That's why I'm brainstorming a character with stretchy arms so it can pop baloons
>>538565620always been here since before there was even a general, kek
>>538562338That 2 makes me think that we need an item that deals damage and makes you rebound when you downdash someone in the head, would be funny>s0yw0
>>538565712thats what he meant
>>538565726Ivy labubu
>>538565523God I hope so, dogshit artstyle on top of being a pedo.
>>538566248I don't see any reason to not go and suggest it. Also the pic is from an old stop motion video from 1933, which was meant to be a reference to the game's general setting, and I couldn't find a better picture
Huh, finally got a Paige win after a 6 game lose streak. This build was pretty fun!
>>538566940what an aggressively dogshit build, my god.how are Paige players so fucking consistently god awful useless?
>>538565887Hello furfag, how gay ARE you?
>>538560313I had fun with them before I quit, although they definitely started devolving into some faggotry. [Was always the shitters and not the like 5 actual good players in the lobbies though/spoiler]
i know the "tf2 = best thing on the whole planet" is a meme at this point.BUT Deadlock characters dont hit as well as the tf2 cast. they clearly still have some of that Valve touch but idk, maybe because the cast is bigger so they dont get as much of a focus but they just dont hit the same.Deadlock characters feel like if you stripped the tf2 ones into like 1/5 parts and made a character of that. just more one noted. I genuinely like most of the characters a lot, and they ARE higher quality than other games. but they are not on the level of like instant classic that will get cult fan followings drawing art and writing stories and making videos for decades to come. for now at least. you know what i mean?
>2am matches>win win win win>afternoon/evening>loss streakJust not playing Deadlock during burger hours. My fellow americans are dogshit at this game.
>>538567204I dunno what a "good build" is so I just try things and hope they work! I had fun, we got the W and my team gave me some thumbs up! I really can't ask for more!
>>538567204Support hero brain rot please understand
>>538567565I don't get the meme that TF2 characters aren't one-note. Most of their personality comes from supplementary material that flanderizes them.They were made to be interchangeable mooks. Soldier's only personality trait is that he has lead poisoning.
>>538566369>and by assuming that the "pros" were already at highest MMR levelThey were consistently at the top so they were most likely at the highest MMR.
>>538565726IT WASN'T POINTLESS, THEY WERE GOOD DIE
The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>>538567367extremely, you should see my bad dragon collection.Doorman bro btw.
>>538567565I get what you're saying, my best guess is that Deadlock characters have a bit more nuance to them and thus, a barrier to entry. TF2 characters are fewer and easy to understand almost immediately, they tend to be the embodiment of their archetype. Scout is slick and sassy. Heavy is slow, simple and sturdy. Engineer is laid back, chill and handy. They also have the benefit of 15+ years of lore, comics and shorts! If you give people time, Deadlock will grow on them. Expect the Tumblr crowd to obsess with this game like they did with Overwatch.
>>538568134t. Foid
>>538567204The performance of the average Mina and Paige player is singlehandedly keeping people from seeing just how insanely infuriating these characters are and how much they have powercrept every other character in the game.
>>538568168tumblr popularity is different read: worse than the mainstream popularity mercs enjoyeddeadlock characters will never reach the same level of popularity because gmod/sfm is dead and the internet as a general place doesn't exist the way that it used to
>>538568168honestly crazy how OW in its dogshit modern corpse state still has one of the most dedicated fan bases. like i genuinely know people that play only OW and a few casual games sometimes. (mostly women).its a golden Tumblr style demographic that is going to waste on something like that.
>>538568462Dealing with an early game Paige with shield is such an infuriating experience.
>>538566940I havent played a game as page since it was released. I never seen a game without page in it.I've seen games without one of the other 4, and lately doorman is a rarity.Fuck her ass.
>>538568192I am a MAN, bro
victor is fun but man he takes FOREVER to get online.his entire build is just a bunch of tier 4s
>>538562338If we're posting hero ideashttps://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/deep-sea-diver-tank-zoner.80413/
>>538568804I got bored of him after auramaxxing but then I tried surge of power on 2 rapid recharge and now I just LIVE.dude is so much more fun if you play him like that instead of just killing yourself with 3.
>>538568804Build gun victor and statcheck the drifter with 2 items
>>538568467Tumblrites tend to be very passionate and stick to their fandoms long after they've become irrelevant. Browsing that site is mad comfy if you seek art of franchises you love.>>538568502Hot take. But Blizzard accidentally made the right call to pander to the woke crowd. The game survived it's inevitable fall off the public consciousness by keeping that loyal subsection of their playerbase alive. And ever since the release of Marvel Rivals the game has been pushed to be to the best state it's been in years.
>>538567565I've seen more art of the new 6 heros than all the other ones combined since Deadlocks launch.In general it seems like they kinda managed to stabilize a good Deadlock-ish design process. So hopefully the future is bright.
>>538567565I think deadlock needs time to digest, that’s all. TF2 has had YEARS to develop
fun and interactive hero
>>538567565>Like characters i've known for like 20 years now more than characters i've known for less than a yearwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowretard.it would be a paigetranny to make a post this fucking retarded.
>>538569185I've never played Mina, her invincibility dash is only a single second cooldown? Geeze.
>>538569326you can cast it twice
>>538568712t. Foid
Why is there so much Drifter/Doorman and so little Victor/Doorman? Are the fanartists stupid?
>>538568872it would either get nerfed in the first 40 minutes like Victor or cause vortex web to get deleted from the game, kek
>>538569326You get 2 uses within a time limit and then a longerncooldown, kind of like Mirage's scarabs
>>538569185>39k mina vs 27k drifteri know you are brainrotten, but come on
>come back to Deadlock after getting COVID>three losses in a rowa-arigatou Yoshi-sama
>>538569446>Fujos want to see two hot men together instead of a hot man and a very tall twink who is made purely for the female gazeGosh golly I wonder why
Vindicta wears shoes and socks but she hands them over to me when game starts
>>538569498Except her skill does something.
>>538569517nigga getting corona in '25
I wish they add a hero that has similar autoattacks like tiny or treant with extremely low attack speed but high damage. Maybe a ww1 soldier with bolt action rifle or something
>>538569483>it would either get nerfed in the first 40 minutes like VictorYeah I though of that, but it seems like basically all tanks have the problem that they're unkillable when overtuned. Probably still less annoying than overtuned Shiv was>or cause vortex web to get deleted from the game, kekI didn't think of that. There's other characters with painful interactions with Vortex Web though.
>>538569825orgies will do that to you
>>538569865>extremely low attack speed but high damage.literally Doorman
>>538569510some people win so infrequently that they make clips of just regular ass gameplay as if they were exceptional moments.
>>538569865That's what vindicta's gun should have been
>>538569185Lmao
>i got rescue beam go in dude>mcginnis wall>I dieand this is why i shouldn't listen to """""support"""" players
>>538565523i hope he is drawing lewds too
>>538569642they really should rework scarabsthe fact that it works with charges but using charges is literally pointless because you can only affect a person once or twice during its duration is some retardation that is difficult to understand
Lol what if for April fool's event they made all the women naked with super detailed sexual features and like instead of using abilities they just fuck you. That would be funny me thinks
>>538570841the joke is porn addictionlaugh
>>538569510yeah the point wasn't really to say she's OP or anything
>>538532914
>>538567565>BUT Deadlock characters dont hit as well as the tf2 cast.Far too early to call that considering TF2 is nearly 2 decades old and DL isn't even in 1.0. DL also has a much stronger focus on interpersonal relationships which will inherently lead to a lot of fan-art/fan-fiction.
so is stamina mastery just objectively better than kinetic dash and arcane surge all the time?
>>538570685Whichever anon suggested they just go full Nature’s Prophet and make scarabs march down the lane was onto some shit
>>538532914*THONK*
>Another updateAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>538571115not objectively no because KD and AS trigger every dashjump with no cooldown, giving them offensive valuestamina mastery is better mobility objectively but it's twice the price with marginal immediate offensive value
>>538569865VISCOUS RIGHT CLICK BRO?!?!?!
>>538571226They removed Haze and Seven from the game! Yay!
>>538560419I don't understand it either. The stamina debuff is straight up psychotic. And only 30% weapon damage for that? And a little bit of spirit and debuff resist I guess, but only 30% weapon damage? Nigga Close Quarters alone gives you 20%
>>538571115no, retard. Kinetic has flat ammo which means it's disgusting on characters like Abrams, Mina, Pocket, Mirage who % ammo doesn't work that well on.and arcane Surge is fucking disgusting for the price for shit like Warden ult, Kelvin dome/3, Mo ult, etc etc.Stamina mastery is unironically worse than both unless you're lash.
>>538560419BiS for Billy
Lol what if for April fool's event they made all the men oiled up shirtless and forced them to wrestle each other and got rid of their parry and replaced it with a grapple and got rid of their primary and replaced with with picking up objects around the map to throw at one another and added things like steel chairs to hit each other with. that would be funny me believes
>>538571552see >>538570896
>>538561580HIS ANKLES
>>538571552... Object throwing fetish...?
>>538561580
>>538571821Fat ass can't fit through a mansion door
>>538571821In all my games as Doorman I havent been laned with a bebop once
>>538570841and only vyper is 50 feet tall and fat with big tits and a big ass and a big belly haha
>>538567565You just got old and lost the excitement and whimsy you used to have. Things """not hitting the same""" is not an argument
>>538569865Vindicta's gun should have been more like Doorman's but they decided to make a bolt action rifle fire as quickly as an assault rifle for some retarded reason
helloi stopped playing after 200 hours basically right before they made the game 3 lanes for 2/2/2did they make any core changes to the overall gameplay loopif not i might try it out again. i only quit 'cause it was getting stale and I climbed high as fuck with paradox cheesing
>>538573089>for some retarded reasonbecause of the retarded ass soul orb mechanic.just fucking remove the soul orbs and make soul orbs only spawn if you miss the last hit on the minion.let me have some actual fucking unique weapons.
>>538573373They changed the item store and lots of itens are different. Also new characters and balance changes have been made
>>538573470Doorman's gun has 7 shots and it's slow as shit but he can still lane decently well. They should just increase Vindicta's bullet velocity to make it almost hitscan, that'd solve the orb question
>>538573665and yet it's still just regular gun but slowwe can't ever have a main weapon grenade launcheror a rocket launcheror a railgunor a melee m1because of this shit ass system that adds nothing to the game.
good matchmaking thanks volvo
i cant win as infernus what am i doing wrong
>>538574050>main weapon grenade launcher, rocket launcher, railgunsounds like aids desu. we already have people shitting themselves over bell spam
>>538574358have you considered turning on your monitor?
>>538574472i mean we have viscous and yamato M2 with AOE. They scale like shit so late game they're awful but there is already a place for it.
>>538564815>what the fuck are sinners?holy shit this game needs an ARAM mode right now for retards like this so they don't shit all over other people's games
>>538574942impressive ivy and calico work, it's hard to carry this level of retard
>>538574946and those are already ass to deal with. no point in asking for a rocket launcher main weapon when rutger's neon prime kit had it as a charge spammable 1
>>538574942>92k souls>52 minute game>Seeker 6PLEASE give me a replay to watch
>>538567709>2am queue: all wins>3am-4am queue: all losses>5am queue: the most fun matches you've ever played>6am onward queue: dogshit 50/50
>>538574671im serious like i feel all squishy and die unless im super ahead :(
>>538575408stop being in death range, infernus is one of the safest M1 carries in the game. you should not be dying with how disgusting flame dash is.what build are you going? I just don't see how you aren't getting value on Infernus.
ONE AWAY LADS matchmaking has been dogshit >>538574351
I just began playing this game from this new wave of heroesQuestion for the year long players:how would you judge the develpment of the game? is it bretter? is it less fun? is it more engaging, do you like the map changes? is the game development actually refining the game or is it just a mess?I'm really curious
>>538574351you tell me man
>>538575676YOU CAN DO IT ANONI BELIEVE IN YOU
>>538575554idk i just buy what guides tell me
Vyper should get CC immunity when sliding instead of resistance.
>>538576275vyper should get gutted even more
>>538576275vyper should spread slime when she slides that helps her allies slide further too
>>538576275vyper should get deleted along with calico
Vyper smells lash's balls while he sleeps and goons.
midboss dies too quick in late game, shit needs a maximum dps it can take
>>538576119These are good but Ricochet was probably not too good of a buy. You should've upgraded some of your earlier items
>Drifter goes 0/7 before minute 10 and then goes afkits impressive you easily you can tell who is a dotard in this game
>another state mandated loss where a smurfing billy comes out 18k out of lane while your Mina will promptly go 0/10 by game end
>>538577550It's impressive just how forgiving this game is to being completely fucked over in lane
>passives that let you do extra damage for absolutely freewhy ever have these in the game?
>>538577879>for absolutely freethey cost time to gettime is souls
>>538573691Who are the two making out? One of them is Priest but who's the other? And who's the one on the floor in a puddle of blood?
>>538578028Raven and Trapper, two of the newer Hero Labs heroes
>>538578028Raven is the one kissing and Trapper is the dead one
>>538577983no? you can have these abilities at the start of the game
