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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
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FOR THE DJINN
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Which way, deadlockers?
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>watch streamer
>smurfing
>swap to another
>smurfing
>swap again
>smurfing
why are these niggers not banned?
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>>538598701
>have to land every bolt otherwise you're throwing the game
>Enemy team has no interesting ults? There goes your one trick.
The potential for Sinclair is insane if you land every bolt. But he quickly falls off a cliff otherwise. As much as I hate to suggest it, maybe some form of auto lock like Wraith's cards?
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How would you fix Sinclair?
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KONO SEBENSU MUN NO CHIKARA DA
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>>538599223
Streamers don't get banned for smurfing, it's just a unwritten rule for every single online game. Every major streamer for every competitive game smurfs all the time, but since they'd be pissed off if they were not allowed to the devs just let them
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>>538599223
who?
I only watch surefour play this game. all the deadlock mains are insufferable faggots.
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>>538599223
>ban streamer for smurfing
>they make a new account
what does this accomplish
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>>538599223
they're farming clips for ad revenue, please understand
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>>538599432
he's pretty much the only one that doesn't, and supertf.
he even rejected a group invite for a stack because the people inviting him were smurf account havers.
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HOW TO BUILD SPIRIT DRIFTER?
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>>538599223
Why is smurfing relatively common in moba but rarely seen in fighting games?
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>>538599284
Sinclar is one of the characters that will benefit greatly from draft once its added, since he wants to go against teams with powerful ults. Other than that, he has an akward mid-game. You deal a lot of damage but don't really have proper crowd control to gank since bunnies can still run (and are in fact faster). You kill walkers absurdly fast but competent players know this and won't let him close to one. Matter of fact, now that i think about it
>1 is an annoying projectile that deals a billion damage
>2 is a movement ability that allows for tricky play
>3 is a powerful disable commonly paired with echo shard
>4 is a unique, gimmicky but powerful ult
>Has a midgame that is mostly about annoying enemies and trying to push walkers
He's basically Doorman 0.5, they're pretty similar in play patterns but Doorman has better utility overall
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>>538599835
mobas are f2p
mobas have account buyers
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>>538599835
SOLO TO HIGH RANK is the easiest clickbait content you can make. people love to blame their teammates for their low rank so it doesn't work in fighting games because we already know a high rank player can get to high rank.
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>>538599831
>press B to open the shop
>go to the purple tab
>purchase the items from that tab
hope this helps!
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I really don't like Sinclair's design at all which is sad because I love his kit because I love Rubick
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>>538599915
Why are they all F2P anyway?
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>>538599223
That was a fucking issue in LoL. Legions of streamers smurfing until they went too high to win every match and then making a new account to "show how fast they climbed". Don't know if Riot ever did anything about that shit but I don't expect those retards to ever take good decisions.
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>>538599831
don't
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here's your team for the match. say something nice about them.

https://statlocker.gg/match/41705864/summary

Drifter, Mina, Paige, Lady Geist are the stack.
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>>538600020
Thirdie genre. All the paid ones lost to LoL even harder than Dota 2 did
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>>538599835
>>538600070
I just remembered LoL had a refer-an-account incentive where if the referred account gets to level 30, the account that referred them gets some premium currency. That probably resulted in a lot of it.
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is it just me or is this game always decided in the first 5 minutes and the next 20-30 minutes are spent waiting for the winning team to realize they've already won
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>>538600242
It's just you and everyone else with a weak mental
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>>538599961
Basically this. Team-based games have a lot of entitled babies who think they're owed victory that was robbed by their teammates, so they love getting paired with lower-skilled people to stomp, and it makes for good viewership. Fighting game players know that their losses are their fault, there's no one else to blame, so they're less interested in stomping people for its own sake.
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>>538600242
sometimes you are gifted with deadweight players you can tell are going to suck for the entire game.
lots of drifter players exhibit this behavior.
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>>538600242
lanes have such an insignificant impact on the outcome of the match. skill issue.
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The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
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>>538600242
The first five minutes barely matter to the point that you can lose your tower and die 10 times and still win. If you didn't lose your walker by five minutes it's still extremely winnable, this game is like dota where insane comeback values combined with powerful ults means one good teamfight can bridge a huge economic gap and get you back in the game.
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I kneel
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>>538600483
>insane comeback values
lmao
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>>538600483
This game is like League where it's almost a pure stat check and if you're behind you have no chance to win a teamfight
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>>538600483
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Someone got a good wraith build?
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>>538601057
aimbotters go tesla bullets farm till 40k then kill everyone. noob like u should buy purple items and throw cards
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can you parry puddle punch without counterspell?
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>>538600705
This is just not true, i don't even know what to say to it. I had two games just today where we were 20k behind and we won a late game teamfight that turned the tide. You can isolate powerful characters with Bebop, Paradox, Calico, you can disable the entire enemy team with Dynamo or Paige, you can split them apart with Kelvin or blow them up with a well-placed Lash combo. All it takes is to capitalize on the enemy team's mistake with a huge ult or a good pickoff and you can turn things around almost every time. Add utility items to the mix that you can use to severely hinder important enemies and you can comeback very easily in this game. The reactions to my post seem to me like you guys just have bad mental, refuse to properly strategize or itemize against enemy threats or a mix of both.
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>>538601160
you're behind so they get to itemize while you don't
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>mirage cant tp out of the baroness
LAMEEEE
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>>538601160
Your anecdote means nothing. If the enemy team does not GIVE YOU the game, you cannot TAKE IT from them from a deficit. The game was way more win-more mechanics than comeback mechanics and any half-decent team will take advantage of that to put you further behind.
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>>538601160
>this is just not true
>proceeds to use his own experience as fact
i hate retards lmao
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>>538601754
>boy who stings good
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>>538601157
yes.
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>>538601646
I don't know what to tell you dude, if you want to just sulk and give up after losing the lane and then cope by saying the game is just a "stat check" and unwinnable when in a disadvantage that's your prerogative. But comebacks happen in this game, and like i said all it takes is to maintain a good mental state, capitalize on the other team's mistakes and use your abilities effectively. Take the urn to bait them into enemy territory, fight under walker, fight in base. But that's if you want to become a better player, if you don't then you can just keep complaining and telling yousefl there was nothing you could have done.
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>>538601856
fuck i have been throwing every lane vs viscous
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>>538601157
From the wiki
>Puddle Punch can be parried, preventing the player from being pushed and taking damage. Viscous does not get stunned if Puddle Punch is parried.
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>>538601057
metro build is fine if you have at least average aim.
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>>538601987
>capitalize on the other team's mistakes
That's exactly the issue. The onus is on the winning team to make mistakes, not on the losing team to make plays. There is a key difference.
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>>538602363
so what you're saying is, you're being outskilled, and it has nothing to do with the state of the game.
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so hows Summit liking the game?
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>>538602449
whether he's playing it in a week will show how he feels about it
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>>538601452
So can Pocket and Drifter. But they then get teleported back to where they were sent there in the first place on effect expiration.
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When will valve fix her hair style?
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>>538602363
It's both things. Keeping track of enemy ults is very important exactly because they can be very game warping, and you can definetly make big plays if you, you know, play well. A surprise Dynamo ult from a flank hitting 3 people will turn a teamfight around, but it's hard to execute. And on top of that the enemy team WILL make mistakes, it's impossible not to. Even in eternus lobbies people make mistakes, so they sure as hell do in lower levels. Use the enemy team's mistakes and outplay them and you can come back from all but the absolute shittiest starts.
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>>538602449
he's bad and probably won't stick around long enough to learn how to play the game. I think he peaked at silver in lol, no clue what he peaked at in marvel rivals or overwatch, and don't think he ever played dota.
he's playing with a bunch of GTA RP clowns too, so none of them know how to play MOBAs or hero shooters. >>538600145
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>>538602363
You can play in a way that leads to the enemy team being more inclined to make mistakes
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>>538602423
You know what, yeah. I'm just frustrated. Sorry for wasting your time.
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Broke: calico should be a catgirl
Woke: calico should be a sheepgirl
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>>538602879
there's 2 minutes left in the American Football match. You're down by 4 points. It is 4th down and you have 4 yards to go to reach your 40 yard line.
do you punt the ball, or do you go for it and try to keep your drive alive so you can score the game winning touchdown?

going for it, is making the play that can lead to victory. punting, is hoping that they fumble their snaps when doing their QB kneels.
use your spells and shit on them, or die trying. don't just sit there waiting for them to dive your fountain crying about how bad your vindicta is.
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>>538602363
Losing team can make some plays but it's going to be on the winner team to over extend for them to work I guess yeah. But playing perfectly in this game is hard, either they play safe and let losing team farm more than they should or they play aggressive and leave you openings to come back
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>>538602363
What is outplaying if not quickly identifying and capitalizing on an enemy's mistake?
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>>538603135
I don't ever give up, but it's just exhausting playing the fourth game in a row where I'm getting blown up, can't deal any damage, and can't outrun anyone. It doesn't always happen, but when it does this game is just miserable to play. Feels like a humiliation ritual.
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hooray matchmaking gave me a pity win after my 5 game loss streak last night
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>>538603373
if it's a stomp I just go chill in the jungle until the game ends.
with any luck they kill me with a fat bag and end the game faster.
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>regrad on victor/drifter decides to 1v6 in the jungle after everyone spammed "go back" and left
>be me, support
>stay at maximum distance possible just throwing shields and whatnot
>overextending idiot gets away but i die
where's justice
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>drifter in charge of not dying 10 times
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more lore talk, seems like drifter is mega old just to be a very basic edgelord
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>>538603896
I mean Drifter has a very distinct Cajun accent, so if you trace him back to the first acadian immigrants he'd be like 170 or so. But i guess he could be older and picked up the accent later or something
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give your favourite hero a passive like they did in dota 7.36
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>>538604134
paradox gets faceless void's old passive that let him dodge anything in the game randomly
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>put in EU games as NA
>game is 3 whole tiers above my rank
games dying again I see
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>>538603708
you can tell what kind of drifter you get by how they use their 2 and most times it'll be the 0/10 drifter instead of the 10/0 one
>>538603896
drifter just likes a good meal
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>>538603896
billy isn't a street walker.
he's the generic smoke cigarettes and drink beer and start a band in middle/high school, to them become a frat boy when he goes away for college, and then work some high level corporate job at the same fortune 500 company his dad works at.
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i hope they wont be adding every character mentioned in lore like troubadour or paige's brother
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they really just neutered victor into being a pubstomper and no dmg tank
I always get my kills stolen, and I just have to sometimes int for my cumlow teammates to push objectives.
>blah blah you are bad
But this is how I have a 60% winrate on him (47 games won out of 78)
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>>538603373
Playing from behind is fun until you get retards like this that refuse to fight and give up
>>538603559
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and another free win
I don't feel like I can contribute to victory. It just feels like matchmaking hands me my win or my loss
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>>538603708
>>538604426
The game gave me this ability to dive behind towers and I can't resist pressing it.
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when will valve add a finnish hero to the deadlock?
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>>538603896
Why is Sinclair that high?
Isn't he just two ghosts held in mortal coil by souped up marriage ceremony
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summit's chat has spoken
marvel rivals > Overwatch > concord > deadlock
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>>538605968
literally who
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>splitshot mirage
actually better than sex and im not kidding
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>>538603896
I'm surprised grey talon isn't in the highest tier considering he's killed thousands of people lorewise if his pre-fight convos with doorman and haze are any indication
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>>538605968
You may not like it, but this is the optimal Geist build
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>>538606632
i dont get whats the point of elephant
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>>538604383
The game is going to die twice in alpha, lmao
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Valve should add an aura enchanter to deadlock. Thoughts?
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>>538606712
it has so many stats
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>>538604103
He remembers New Amsterdam, which makes him at least 200 years old.
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What's the point of commends? Do they do anything?
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>>538606984
one last chance to bm
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What version of Shiv is actually good
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>>538607071
Tank gun, do not listen to the knife or dash tards.
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>>538607071
Gun shiv, knife build is a meme because it takes all 5 to kill someone and dash build does no damage either
Go opening rounds + express shot and nuke people with your first shot
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>>538606712
Billy item.
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>>538607404
Abrams item actually.
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>>538606712
melee heroes + bebop
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Why are so many people in team chat/mic reactive? I.e. they're dead silent until their lanemate fucks up then they berate them. But they weren't saying anything before or during the fight that caused that lanemate to die! I don't get it.
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>Deadlock
What does that even mean?
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ah back to our regularly scheduled losses
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>>538607589
>teammate will mic up to complain you didn't go in with them but not to comm that they want to go in
many such cases
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>>538606712
PRÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖH
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Is the MMR bugged why am I still alchemist
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>>538607071
tank and puncho mode is braindead and pisses people off
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Why is this game giving me random player surveys? I don't know what half the cast even does, let alone if individual items are OP or not.
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>>538607589
I've noticed that only white guys and slavs do this. I don't think I've ever heard a nigger, spic, etc. seethe at his teammate on mic.
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>>538607936
Just vote based off of vibes and what you want to see buffed or nerfed
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>>538606632
geist bullets are already incredibly fast so there really isn't that much of a downside outside of the slower stam regen.
someone probably told him geist is an aimer character but didn't tell him how to actually build for gun.
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>Can't play due to internet issues
>Youtube keeps recommending me deadlock content
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>538608019
They do it but they use their white voice.
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>Play support Viscous
>I get to be the biggest nigger on planet Earth and my team loves me for it

Now if only he was a cute girl.
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>>538608398
>wanting to play a cute girl instead of a goo monster that could possibly rape cute girls
?
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>>538608832
Revitiligo claims another innocent Ixian. Sad!
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I love ratting and I only want to rat and avoid fighting if at all possible
who do I play?
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>>538609052
mcginnis, mina, seven, ivy
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>build support, Rescue Beam/Guardian Ward/Heroic Aura
>don't realize until too late that my team isn't grouping up to fight and instead keeps losing one-by-one
>too late to pivot into damage
My game sense is so bad. Not the game I mentioned but my next team has Holliday/Billy/Abramd/Drifter/Paradox, is that a team to build support around since there are tanky hard hitters?
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>>538609052
Mina, viscous, kelvin, ivy, doorman
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>>538609052
Drifter

Even if you feed like a nigger nobody can fight you 1v1, so they ALWAYS have to send multiple people to go deal with you.
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>>538609084
>>538609492
nta but what are some good ratting items kind of like how you'd get tomes on dota 2
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>>538609551
tesla bullets and monster rounds
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>>538609340
I just build whatever i feel like and it is what it is.
If you only care about wins then you have to build like a carry every time.
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>>538608019
Peruvians used to yell at me over mic all the time on dota 2.
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why doesn't this game have wards, i want to be a wardslut and eyeball all over the enemy's side base
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>>538609551
Cultist sacrifice + anything that helps with wave clear (tesla rounds, extra charges/cooldown reduction) + an extra escape tool like majestic leap or carpet if you want to ratmax
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>>538609052
Mcginnis is the best she can place turrets that cover herself while you rat it's very annoying. Plus the wall for better escapes. Ivy/seven are sort of okay at it but youre needed to fight eventually. Not with mcginnis
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>>538605837
Sinclair can do all of the ultimate abilities that the other guys at the top can do
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>>538609653
It's so strange how there are no wards, no flash/smoke grenade style items, and almost no reason to use the ghost rooms that are literally everywhere on the map.
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>>538609551
The best ratting item is those that help you fight off people that gank you or avoid their ganks. So majestic carpet. For mcginnis mystic slow and possibly the fire rate reduction item so her turrets slow them down and make it harder for them to kill you
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>>538609720
mcginnis is 'expected' to rat, are there any other heroes that are 'expected' to rat so your teammates don't flame you when you don't show up to teamfights and push walkers instead?

>>538609779
there's sort of a smoke item but it's a personal smoke for ganking and I've only seen haze players use it
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They should make a character that all 4 skills are for movement & escaping.
I want to me the most slippery mother fucker in the game with 0/0/20
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>>538609779
>make ghost rooms
>release hero that detects you if you hide inthem
bravo gabe...
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Is there a toxic queue in this game?
I called the dude on the enemy team a nigger like 10 times and t-bagged him every time I killed him
Anyways don't forget to leave your souls at the door
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>>538609835
Lmao I caught a mcginnis doing this it was a good juke too but my nose was too israeli for him to hide from me
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>>538609834
that's what skyrunner will be
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>>538600070
The meta is disguising your smurfing as "ROAD TO MASTER" content, I've even seen some barely subtle slop "ROAD TO DIAMOND", and these faggots are farming this shit for every new season even if there is no important balance changes. Repeat ad nauseam for each champ on LoL, Apex etc.
To answer another person's question: you don't see this in fighting games because in MOBA your game sense is as if not more important than your mechanics on any given character so you can do well even if you've never touched a character. Fighting games at high levels require practice and building up some muscle memory due to different control scheme, combos etc. I can't be a god at Ryu, switch to Guile and expect to perform at the same level.
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What are you supposed to do when you're at a serious soul deficit? I asked last thread and didn't get any useful answers. When you deal no damage and enemies can instakill your whole team, always ganking if you try to push lanes. It feels so wonky and lame. Are all MOBAs like this?
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>>538609828
mirage since nobody plays mirage and nobody will give a fuck if you don't show up to teamfights and he has a pretty good escape ability + you can use his ult to escape?
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Billy feels like an Abrams that just kind of works
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>>538610375
you bunch up and sit in your base, your fountain heals you a billion HP a sec for a reason (assuming the entire map is destroyed and it's like 30 minutes into the game).
good luck convincing your retarded teammates on doing that though.
if it isn't late game you just disappear from the game and farm neutrals, only appear to defend your walkers and push troopers into their half of the map (if you even can) and leave as soon as they are no longer threatened.
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>>538610375
Farm until you get a useful power spike. Buy anti heal, it's way more cost effective to stop their healing than to try and match it. Kill an over extended person. Try to rat with urn, if youre far enough behind it's on your side of the map. Have one person split push while you gank the other sides of the map. Net worth usually doesnt meant they're unkillable unless it's a hyper carry like victor/infernus, it's just an advantage.
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>>538610375
You are not supposed to get into that situation into the first place. Your best option is to take safe farm and get comeback urn (when it has green candles) because the drop off point will be safe and in your own jungle and you get bonus comeback souls to hopefully make up the difference. If you have to fight do so under an objective and when you have numbers advantage, and use items to counter enemy heroes causing you problems.
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>>538610375
Honestly this >>538610857
If you find yourself in that sort of position, you've basically already lost, and the errors leading up to it is what actually needs to be analyzed and fixed, not the end result of being completely outvalued
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>>538609897
>my nose was too israeli
LMAZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>538600070
They've recently said (and actually followed through) on just banning people who buy accounts to smurf. If you level an account to smurf they'll just kick you out of shitterland quickly, but buying ANY accounts in ANY way connected to your main gets ALL of them banned now.
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TIL Vindicta and Haze lane is pretty bad for shotgun characters
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>>538609776
It's all prestidigitation, anon. If you look close you can see the wires
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>>538611629
That's when you get a lane swap or hope you're mid so you can use the tunnels to harass and CS
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>>538611951
So uh
So what do you do when you can't swap and are in a side lane in that situation?
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i've started buying phantom strike on billy at ~12 minutes if they have a single flyer and it is very fun to just ruin the game for someone
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>>538612110
buy life regen, cower and never give the enemy line of sight.
0 interaction lane.
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>>538612110
You eat shit
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>>538612110
Monster rounds, extra regen, healing shot.
Suck cocks until you get items.
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>>538612110
Play defensively, box farm, even give up guardian if you need to. Once you can start ganking other lanes you'll make up any deficit, just don't give them any more of a lead than they get
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predictions for the next hero batch?
>Priest
>witch girl (forgot name... Habo?)
>pirate dude
>Succubus
>Slork unironically
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>>538612247
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>>538612352
Glad to see my gameplay experience is the intended one
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>>538610359
>Fighting games at high levels require practice and building up some muscle memory due to different control scheme, combos etc. I can't be a god at Ryu, switch to Guile and expect to perform at the same level.
I think your point is overall sound but fighting games do also have fundamentals that carry over from character to character (at least in a game like Street Fighter, maybe not so in airdashers with more extreme archetypes). If you know how to strike/throw/shimmy, how to walk back and whiff punish, how to anti-air etc. you can get by with the default combo trials for your character, Master in SF6 isn't that hard to get after all the changes they made to make it easier. I'd say SF6 especially lets you jump from character to character because 90% of the roster can be lumped into one (or both) of two categories
>press crouching medium and cancel into slime rush to start pressure
>throw a slow fireball and slime rush behind it to start pressure
There are only a few characters that can't do either of these, so most of the roster is highly accessible
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>Enemy team is TWENTY (20) kills down but it doesn't matter because they have Seven
Call me when Yoshit removes this gay nigger skeleton from the game.
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>>538612458
>Be le me
>Buy anvil
>Problem Sevenfags?
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>>538612427
Forgot to also mention that after you get a knockdown in SF6 80% of the cast can run the same throw loop and fuck your ass. Knowing how to throw loop on its own will get you to Diamond in SF6
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>>538612393
probably pretty far away considering people thought this hero patch was coming out at the beginning of the summer
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>>538612592
>Throw looping
Except if you play Hag-li...
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I don't care about viability. But I love Gunbop.
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My inner fujo calls to ship Paige and Billy
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>>538612393
Succubus! Succubus!
Give me the Succubus!
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>>538612574
>Buy anvil
>Doesn't matter because by the time it lands, he half healthed the entire team
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>>538612706
>Buy anvil
>LoS while fighting
XD
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>>538608832
This isn't offensive, he's just saying in German "the nigger," introducing himself
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>>538612403
that's probably the one thing this game needs to fix before making it even further available to the public.
some lane matchups are just so complete dogshit that it's not fun.
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I miss when I could build bebop other than around his gun. Even if I'm against some fat fuck Mo and come out of laning phase with 50 bomb stacks, bomb build just doesn't work anymore. The hyper beam buffs were nice but there's way too much map clutter to build around it.
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Yoshi confirmed in Q&A that Lash is a transmasc that mogs the entire cast at being a man. I think its a incredibly powerful message
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I cant wait 2fort Deadlock edition bros, its gonna be so sigma
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If we get a mothman character I desperately need it to have a thick appalachian dialect
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the fact games can be 40 minutes long makes me want to shelve this game desu. win or lose it's so dragged out and somehow loses all tension and excitement.
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Every time there's a door man in the game drifter is completely worthless, like wtf man why even add this guy if he can just ult you and get you instantly killed no matter what
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>>538613075
What would his abilities even be? Him having a hillbilly shotgun would be kino.
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>>538613230
>another shotgun
ugh, nevermind
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>>538613267
He could be the meme champ with a gun that can't get more ammo (double barrel) but whose gun stats just increase damage/long range/accuracy more and more so you could plunk people across lane for half their HP.
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>>538613267
give him Paige sperm gun thats a swarm of moths
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>>538613114
back to league, tranny
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>>538612693
Do you even know what a fujo is you retard
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>look it up >>538613114
>apparently games can go as long as 70 minutes
holy shit
i'm trying to go outside of my genre comfort zone but this really really is turning me off. can't they put in sudden death or something?

>>538613431
doesn't league of legends have the same problem? don't all mobas? how does critiquing this make me a transsexual?
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>>538613478
Sorry Im new to fujo I didnt read what its about
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https://x.com/i/status/1965485842799239174
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>>538613506
league games end much faster than dota/deadlock with many games ending with a 15 min surrender. But even without surrendering most games last 20-30 minutes
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>>538613686
lefaa is a retarded nigger and deserves every low prio he gets
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day night cycle when
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I wish we got some kind of ghost gunslinger instead of Holliday or any ghost in general, vindicta doesnt scream ghost to me like someone with a free Ethereal Shift that can phase through walls
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>>538613712
i'm not talking about average games i'm talking about outliers. i want hard timelimits.
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>>538613114
Game isnt close to being done yet and they definitely dont want 40 minute games, tons of stuff they can do. And some games end in under 25 minutes if enemies push hard. Most players like to afk jungle though
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>>538612974
It feels especially egregious with someone like Abrams who only has two VERY long cooldown abilities to work with in lane, and a passive that doesn't heal nearly enough necessitate an entire ability slot
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>>538613818
>day night cycle
No. Unrealistic, ruins the vibe, and doesn't even fit the "lore" of the Ritual taking place over a single solar eclipse
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why are there two different leave options, the red one where you leave but results in a loss. and the green where its not considered at all
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>>538612974
>>538612403
you just need to push your lane out buy monster rounds and extra regen and kill the creeps they cant do anything in that case
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>>538614201
oh i know how to handle bad matchups.
it's the other guy in my lane that never gets the message.
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>>538614103
to disconnect and reconnect to fix something or show that you are afk
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>Nigfernus throws a tantrum and afks a game we could've won
I guess I just deserve to be in Seeker
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>>538614715
pretty sure the low ranks are like bottom silver in counterstrike where because of rank decay every skill of player is there
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>>538614810
Nah a friend who was ascendant and hasn't played in 10+ months only dropped to emissary. The dumpster ranks are like former archon and below
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>>538615035
If that was true this thread wouldnt exist
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>>538615148
everyone in this thread is initiate so its better to say they dont play this game beyond that rank
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>>538615270
I'm alchemist :)
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paige's butt in my face, please.
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>>538615648
she has no ass
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>>538615648
she has no grace
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>>538615680
source?
>>538615746
whut
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>>538615648
this bookworm has a funny face
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>>538613878
noone cares about what you want, because it's a shit idea retard
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>>538615889
what a weird and defensive way to respond to a mere suggestion.
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>>538615680
Seems fine?
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item that gives your melee knockback
thoughts?
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>>538615648
god i want to smell her unwashed crusty asshole
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Item that causes the enemy to be teleported back to their fountain instantly and forbidden from using ziplines for 30 seconds if you parry them.
Thoughts?
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>>538616009
>modded
way to destroy your argument
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>>538616074
what argument you were saying she has no ass.
>>538616053
>book worm
>doesn't shower
females who don't shower don't exist anon.
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>>538616009
>mods
You'd've been better off saying "it came to me in a dream" for how much value that holds
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>>538616160
her actual model dumbass
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>>538616360
This is clipping prevention.
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>>538616360
cute butt
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>>538616440
Hank Hill's ass is flat to prevent clipping
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>>538612393
sorry anon, pirate dude was fake and gay
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>>538612393
>he thought pirate was real
lmfao
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thank god barely anyone is playing sinclair, what a disgusting hero. Might be on pair with seven/nigfernus
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>Let's make a glass cannon... That has to play close range
>Well is her ult good at least?
>Only for cheesing objectives!
What the fuck were they thinking?
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They unironically need to slim down the shop by a lot. There's too many items.
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>>538616360
she has her butt cheeks clenched 24/7 ?
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>>538616928
>secretly broken in new game mode
this is my cope
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>>538616928
Mina is a long range character and Rake is for creeps
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>>538617135
You have to be close to proc her love bites and saying 1 of her abilities is literally only for creeps makes her sound even worse
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Opinions on Shiv build? I think knives are the most fun part of his kit, but I also want my shotgun to do some damage, I would Mystic Vulnerability in there somewhere but Spirit Rend seems to do good enough work
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>>538617135
>long range character
for what exactly, 0 damage? her gun has the damage falloff of a shotgun
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>>538617194
Damn this is the kind of shit we would be building back in August last year
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>>538616892
All honest heroes
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It's time to stop pretending a game like this can ever actually work without bird eye view. Most of the matches are decided randomly because there is no actual strategy compared to Dota in these fights
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>>538617428
shills will HATE this post
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Why do I see hunters aura in so many builds? Surely it's shit now because of how rare actual 1v1s are
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>>538617428
another mobabby filtered by verticality
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I play shiv because his dash and walljump look the coolest.
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>>538617428
>he doesn't have inner eyes
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>>538617532
deadlock will never be anything more than a mediocre game for casual gaming with friends, seethe shill
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>>538617679
you don't have to get so mad about being filtered, it's okay to be a casual
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>Deadlock needs to be just like Dota!
>Deadlock needs to be more like Tf2!
Let it go faggots
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Deadlock needs to be like Fortnite and add Doctor Who to the roster
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deadlock needs to be more like nier automata and add 2b to the roster
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Deadlock needs to be like Death Stranding 2 and add 4k feetscan models to every hero
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>>538617918
An active item that's just a copy of a shockwave grenade would actually be kind of kino
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>>538617838
blows my mind when people are like "Stop trying to force Deadlock to be what you want! Let it be its own Unique Thing!" and it's just 80% moba 20% shooter, overwhelmingly dota as fuck without a real identity beyond the cool hellboy asethetic
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>>538617428
the game just needs a ward mechanic.
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>>538599835
The actual real answer is literally just matchmaking.

Mobas are a 5v5 (or in this case 6v6) game. That's 10-12 players of "equal" skill level that have to be matched together at the same time. When you get to really high ranks this can make matchmaking take FOREVER. In Deadlocks case the game is still pretty small so asking 12 out of like what, 500? MAYBE 1000 really high skilled players to be online and in the same region to queue up at the same time isn't that easy.

In fighting games you literally just need one other person to be online and generally the ranks can have a bit more disparity because the ranking system can account for that by giving you more/less points depending on if you won/loss to someone of higher or lower skill. So even though FGs typically have lower playerbases, they're able to have better, more active matchmaking since it's literally just needs 2 people to queue up for a match to happen.
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>>538617747
>n-no... you are the casual!
fucking lmao
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>>538617217
for one million damage love bites spirit burn procs
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>/dlg/ is pretending mina is good again
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>>538618548
you said it yourself
>I will never be anything but a casual deadlock player with friends
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>>538618671
right, but you can't proc it from a range because the gun has shotgun tier falloff
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Are there any rank-gap restrictions when queuing in a group? I.e. a bronze can't play with a diamond
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>>538618228
>it doesn't count
And TF2 is just Quake but you can only take 2 weapons, amirite?
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Do you think they will slow the game down at some point? I feel like a lot of the complaints are about how chaotic it gets during fights with so many movement options and item / skill effects.
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actually i think Deadlock needs a battle pass, kpop collabs, focus ONLY on esports pro play, update the game once a year (purely a skins update) and focus on the Chinese market.
that would be good and healthy for the game surely, Valve should hire me.
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i can't aim
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>write nigger on the map
>everyone unanimously agrees it was me
>im playing drifter
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>>538616928
>Well is her ult good at least?
>Only for cheesing objectives!
Thanks for exposing yourself as a shitter.
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>still no draft
this is so fucking ass
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>>538619071
Agree with what exactly?
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>>538619123
Her ult is just a far shittier Seven ult
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>>538599835
Same reason CoD """content creators""" piss and shit everywhere any time the devs discuss the possibility of adding the barest minimum amount of skillbased matchmaking. They just want to shit on worse players than them and win, not get better at the game.
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>>538619142
roster is too small
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>>538619123
I guess the aoe silence has suppression value
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>>538618764
>pajeet shill cant even fucking read
many such cases
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>>538619224
It's Bebop ult with a silence and scaling in exchange for piss range and no base damage thank you very much.
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>>538619312
it's okay to be a casual.
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The game is fun, but not in a good way.
I only enjoy playing when I'm in the winning team, bullying enemies with my better items.
When I'm losing, it's just a boring auto pilot game where I sit through the 30 minutes match doing nothing enjoyable.
And now, I'm addicted to it because I'm chasing the high I get when I'm in the winning team. Essentially gamble in a different form.
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>>538619364
Don't bother. He exposed himself again. He's a known deadlock hater who doesn't play the game.
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>>538618965
just punch them?
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>>538619364
I guess its fine since thats for whom this game was made for
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>>538618965
Just play Warden. He's designed for you.
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>>538619489
>And now, I'm addicted to it because I'm chasing the high I get when I'm in the winning team. Essentially gamble in a different form.

welcome to mobas anon.
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>>538619559
Of course, it's why you need training wheels for it to not be a casual game
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Hey guys!
John "Yoshi" Deadlockson here, with an exciting new sneak peak of the upcoming update!

we decided on a fun new event for the hero Release of the gritty "Priest" hero!
if you play one hundred(100) games with him during the event week, you'll unlock the special oiled up speedo legendary skin for the hero!
it comes with exclusive ass clapping sound effects while you walk too. very exciting.

thats all for today. have fun and deadlock on
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>>538619145
that i wrote nigger
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>Lash pings Paige
>"I see Paige! :D"
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mcginnis's ult is so worthless
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>>538618849
There used to be when ranked was new, but the restrictions have been relaxed a lot since then
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>>538619489
I picked this game up a week ago and I dunno man I don't find stomping that fun because it doesn't feel like I'm outplaying the enemies or in their head, it just feels like I'm crushing them because my stats are better than their stats.
Close games are really REALLY uncommon. I hope this is just a low rank thing and not the reality of the genre. But you are right that playing on the backfoot feels really lame; there's no guarantee that you could have won if you played perfectly because those fucking stats put you into checkmate situations so often.
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>>538619794
pajeet what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>538620136
>he can't even read
Sad, really
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can we go back to talk about paige's butt?
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>>538620195
I have no idea what I just read, cant handle the brown retardation
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>>538620230
JojoMingles is such a peak 3D model maker.
but
>no freckles on butt
booo
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>>538620360
>>no freckles on butt
would that be a thing?
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>>538620230
i will summon the patron and my wish will be to slide my cock in that thigh gap.
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Do you think it's politically correct to dress up as a vampire in the Deadlock universe during Halloween
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>>538620486
who would she be shipped with?
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>>538620757
>erm what if women kissed mwah :3333
kill yourself faggot
>erm
die
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>>538619928
just farm big camp with it
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>>538620757
I can see her wanting Mirage's junk djinnside her since he's essentially a selfless chivalrous knight, but I can't imagine him wanting such a goddamn nerd.

>>538620886
It's not worth getting upset over. Reassess your priorities.
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What are the OFFICIAL, NON TROLL, REAL USE CASE of Magic Carpet? I identified: ratting and a couple of ults like Warden or Viscous.
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>>538621074
use on mo and krill and never get caught/killed again
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>>538621074
there is none, the devs want it to be a meme item.
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>>538620560
I very rarely trashtalk or rage in games but this game really brings out the urge to use racial slurs as much as possible
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>>538620230
Are there women irl with asses and thighs like that?

(not morbidly obese whales)
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Planting 3 bells at the base of the baroness key right before theyre about to exit feels too naughty
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I lose more games when I'm dominating than when I'm feeding, just like in dota.
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>>538621341
Each thigh is as wide as her waist. No, Anon. Please consume less pornography.
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Deadlock in 5 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqj97Of1FkY
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>>538620230
i want to eat her stinky rancid greasy fat logs of shit and have my lungs filled with nothing but her asshole shit particles and morning breath
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>>538621707
yeah or just sex. i think that would be nice too i guess.
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>>538599223
I was watching Surefour yesterday and I'm pretty sure what's happening with him is the opposite of smurfing. Guy is probably Archon
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>>538621668
god I wish deadlock's basic combat had a shred of this depth or style. all deadlock has is heavy melee.... parry.... you can't zip around mid-fight because of the lame ass sprint system where shooting slows you to a snail's pace
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>Put Bebop on the highest priority
>Still never get to play him
>Every Bebop I see just feeds relentlessly with majestic leap
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>>538621120
That is already pretty much the case with them though, I don't think the 6k + item slot is worth it for that use on them.
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>>538621759
ive had sex, each time i have to masturtbate. it doesnt feel good
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>get 3 kills, spam to go for the boss
>only 1 guy comes, 1 person wants to push blue and the rest is afk farming
>we are slowly doing it, im almost dead, 1 other guy finally comes and we take it
>go blue, there are 2 enemies there, lash ults me
>look at the map, 3 people are afk farming near our base, 1 person is near me and 1 is pushing a sidelane
>Im very strong, I die, we get 2 kills but I overextend for another one and go down
>people are still afk farming during all of this
jesus christ, im done with this dogshit game. It feels like low elo dota, I have to fucking spam ping for these retards to go for the boss and even when we have the buff they are just afk farming.
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>>538622464
maybe write what you want?
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>>538622464
>when you are trying to quickly take mid but the dumbfuck mid shredder of your team (haze, wraith etc) is doing the fucking boxes on top
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>>538622547
this. i'm not going midboss unless someone calls it and i see multiple teammates going for it/nearby
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>>538622464
>spam ping
Purchase a mic. If you just keep giving commands (rather than lashing out and being a jerk) people will tend to obey you.
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>>538617194
It's a pretty "alright" build but the biggest thing to cut here is all of your spirit lifesteal and replace it with radiant regen.

If you're not going all in on spirit there is NO reason to get spirit lifesteal.
Radiant regen will heal you immediately when you use an ability every 6 seconds + give you much needed movement speed. This doesn't require you to hit anyone, it's just free heals.
Mystic and Radiant regen gives you regen for X seconds after someone takes spirit damage with you, so on shiv if you knife someone you get regen for the items duration + the entire duration of your knives and both versions will stack this regen for each other target that is taken spirit damage.

In this clip at this (somewhat arbitrary) level with no other items, spirit lifesteal gives me 46 regen from a single knife while radiant IMMEDIATELY gives me 91 health and then for the knives duration regens for 38 health and then like 4 or 5 more seconds of regen after (not shown cuz I clipped it too early).

Spirit lifesteal is only worth if you're both going all in on spirit and more importantly you get it LATE GAME. It adds VERY little survivability early game.
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>>538622547
i used vc to get my retarded teammates to go for the boss literally the previous game and it was ignored just like this time with using pings, this game attracts the biggest normalfag npcs there could be. Everyone is afk farming until they get full-slotted and then deathball on a single lane
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>>538622664
Also this. a "let's go mid" ping has no value in my head unless you actually say it in voice chat
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>>538622664
NTA but they don't tend to. My last game I told my teammates not to fight and to retreat, after 10 seconds of repeating this command, what do think they did?
They all got wiped at mid walker trying to pull a fight when the enemy was ahead, entirely alive and had all of their ultimates up.
The one game where my teammates unwaveringly listened to me yesterday was the only one I won. Every time I told them to retreat they did, and these retreats often served as bait that allowed us to get an advantageous fight on enemies. But most people are proud faggots that think they know better and that better is to die and lose.
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>>538622664
>>538622823

>>538622792
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>>538622928
Why do people waste time backlinking posts like this? I saw the posts. I can tell it applies to a post above it. No need to ping.
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>>538623018
I dont know if you've seen my post or not since it was a reply to someone else, like isnt it obvious?
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>>538622693
Thank you, thats very helpful
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>>538623584
It's worth noting that if you get mystic shot early in lane, you can use it to proc mystic regen for some heals if you're out of knives/can't close to dash
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I remember they added damage falloff to headshot booster+mystic shot, did they revert that shit at some point?
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How long is the parry window? Is parrying when you hear the heavy melee charge up sound too early?
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>>538622693
Why does Shiv hold his jacket like that?! Okay unique silhouete and it shows he's a preppy dork or whatever but it looks so dumb.
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>>538624302
He's way cooler than you'll ever be
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>>538624194
its either 1 or 2 seconds
>Is parrying when you hear the heavy melee charge up sound too early?
its the right time, especially since your reaction will be a bit delayed
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>>538624348
Then I guess it was lag.
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>>538624194
there's a bot in the practice area that you can practice parrying on.
the answer to your question is no, right as the sound plays is just right.
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>>538624345
Goes without saying. I'm playing a moba.
Never thought of it but I guess the few immortal characters of the roster will inevitably live long enough to see computers be invented. One of them might just try playing Aeon of Strife.
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There is ZERO reason for parrying a light attack should be as punishing as parrying a heavy attack. Parrying a light attack should only stun if you have Rebuttal and heavy attacks needs to grant more benefit inherently given how much windup and difficulty it is in landing them.
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>>538624392
i'd also like to add that parrying right as the sound plays is technically "too early" as that's early enough that the person punching can do a 180 and juke you.
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>>538621074
omnidirectional, unslowable movement
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>>538624663
it literally comes out instantly, if you got parried it's because you were a predictable ass bitch.
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>>538624663
They should do it Rivals of Aether style where light attacks (jabs) only give the attacker parry stun if they mash out a second light attack after their first light attack gets parried.
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>>538624809
noone cares about that tranny game
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the movement in deadcock is so fun
I buy stamina items on every single hero
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>>538606491
he only human, plus he retired for awhile before he went all john wick
by that metric Vyper should be higher on the list because she's been in several prison riots and has a higher body count than she was even convicted for according to conversations with Ivy
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>>538624302
Pure cool factor. Notice how he's exclusively using his prosthetic to fight (outside of heavy melee). This implies he's "limiting" himself by not using his real arm (or you could argue that the prosthetic is stronger) tho I doubt it's the latter
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>>538623957
They must have. I remember this too, in fact I feel like a week or two weeks ago it looked like it had falloff but now I noticed it doesn't and there doesn't seem to be any patch notes that says they reverted it
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>>538603896
mina is definitely inexperienced
>lash
>not exceptional technique
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>>538625024
Is this a bot that triggered because I put Rivals in a post? It's not related to Marvel Rivals and I only brought it up cuz jab checks solved this problem like a decade ago. In Deadlock's case I would say a parried light attack with no followup from the attacker should still give them the 25% increased damage taken effect, just no stun.
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>>538625317
I remember because they killed it with falloff last year but now it's poking like crazy again in lane.
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>>538625420
a case of people overreacting to nerfs and assuming the item is dead when it's still plenty strong
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>>538599223
They don't even ban people for saying nigger the whole match why would they ban smurfs
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>>538625515
probably because they reverted the falloff nerf in may
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>>538621074
you can use it on heroes with dogshit or straight up no movement abilities like paradox and bepop, or on heroes that are good at doing obj damage but not at swapping lanes like sinclair and mcginnis
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>Abrahams is the only character I can play semi-decently
How do I stop being a brainlet?
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Majestic Leap on Paradox is pretty fun
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i fucking need to smell paiges rancid asshole so fucking bad bros. i need her logs of shit down my throat so badly
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That's not very sanitary
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They seriously need double jump animations
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why do headshots do so much extra damage
that shit is dumb i hope they tone it back
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>>538626571
buy a helmet
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>We throw late game teamfight hard
>Enemy gets rejuv only 3 of us up
>They have to push lanes up a bit and we have a side lane pushed up
>Tell Wraith she should go backdoor with our Yamato
>Goes halfway down the sidelane and starts jungling
>Finally stops after 10 seconds and pushes down the sidelane
>Sees a Billy and fights him instead of going to shoot patron
Uhhh what the fuck
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>>538626571
You're going to have to learn to aim, faggot.
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>>538600570
>the other team broke their F keys
Check his play history...
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>>538627010
all i'm saying is that the headshot 2x multiplier is too high, i still want headshots in the game
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Vyper WILL have snitties in her redesign
trust
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>>538627119
You want the TTK to be even higher? Are you INSANE?
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>>538625373
are you fucking retarded? I meant Rivals of Aether, jesus christ why are brown "people" allowed on the Internet
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>>538625992
leap being allowed as a strong item was the best part about the shop rework
seeing it get nerfed like 4 patches in a row was sad
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>>538627217
Headshots as a default mechanic should NEVER have been implemented in the first place. Only special characters should have headshot mechanics, like Holiday. TF2 got it right.
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>>538627230
It just seems extremely odd to lash out like "No one cares about that game!" like I didn't think hardcore RoA haters existed here of all places. It's also extremely odd to append tranny and brown to all your posts. You may not be a bot but you have that NPC flowchart, 100%.
Seriously though, the parry thing was completely relevant so getting mad at it being brought up makes no sense.
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>>538627504
He's underaged, just hide and ignore.
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>>538627504
its just that noone gives a fuck about that game, retard. This is a deadlock thread, you are bringing another game into discussion thats not even in the same genre, noone gives a shit. Go post in another thread if you want to discuss mechanics of a different game, is it clear now?
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>>538626993
one thing I hate about the lower tier games is that players focus too much on team fights.
last match I had a mcginnis that spent almost the whole match in the jungle farming and didn't push a single lane until I asked her to do so, which she then killed a single walker and went back to jungling.

the idea that you need to push lanes to win does not compute for the lower ranks
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>>538627725
What's wrong with mentioning other games?
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gentlemen, how do we fix vyper?
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>>538627482
>turns on "aim community tool"
>every bullet goes directly into the enemy's head
Nothing personnel, kid.
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>>538627864
this >>538627183
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>>538627928
I meant gameplay wise
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>>538627864
Make her crouch into a prone state wherein it is slower to crouch and uncrouch, and she moves way slower, but she gets that unlimited ammo as if she were sliding.
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>>538627864
>>538627984
What's wrong with her gameplay?
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>>538627864
slash-dash ability that gives -bullet resist and can transition directly into a slide with charges
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>>538627853
>how is mentioning a game from a different genre different to mentioning a game from the same developed and in the same genre?
retarded brown npc
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>>538627864
Give her huge boobs that bounce and jiggle as she crouches and slides around
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>>538628263
Mentioning a fighting game in the context melee combat mechanics makes sense, though.
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>>538628263
Does Dota have a universal melee/parry/parrystun system? No? Well then, I guess that's why we brought up a fightan game.
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give calico's bombs infinite stacking damage :)
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>>538628349
a game solely about melee fighting which is also 2d and a platformer, we could also discuss adding different melee moves and frame-counting like in Tekken
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>>538625420
Mystic shot has no fall off but headshot booster does as seen here. You can see when headshot booster activates
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>>538628518
Change calico to look like this.
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>>538628526
Too based for moba players. Would also make the cass less homogenous. It's weird everyone has the same two types of melee attacks regarding range and distance.
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>>538628518
Naw, it should be her melee instead. She's very unique as a melee character that isn't a tank; I'd prefer that playstyle be preserved. Make it so she gets a big boost to her next melee once every 20 seconds or something to encourage the hit and run playstyle; you can use it to sprinkle in damage close range or as an initiator with her claw dash. So you have to be scared of Bebop getting infinite bomb damage and you have to be scared of Calico's infinite super punch 1 shot wombo combo.

>>538628584
Based
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>>538628069
>ult can petrify everyone on the other team but makes them invulnerable which gets in the way of other ults
>shit damage overall
>skill 1 basically doesn't do anything even if you can spam it and it is too slow to hit anyone reliable
>lots of ways to slow her down
>squish as hell so any mistake ends in death
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We need more support characters like Paige. Point and click type of heal/shield and tons of easy to land CCs.
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>>538628584
unironically makes more sense
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give calico's dash the charge tag :)
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>>538628834
bombs should cause little damage but also debuff enemies and make them they increased weapon and melee damage, the more bombs that hit the more damage they take.
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>>538628959
Paige is literally the "woman" character specifically designed for people's girlfriends to play.
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>>538629318
if that was true she would be pure support, instead people pick gun and shred the other team
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>>538629416
Gun Paige is an aberration that will be nerfed.
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>>538629318
I am blessed/cursed with proficiency for that type of heroes.
>Healer/Mage in any MMORPG
>Crystal Maiden player in DOTA 2
>Mercy player in Overwatch
>Cloak and Dagger player in Marvel Rivals
>Luminae player in Mecha Break
>Paige player in Deadlock
I am male.
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>>538629416
>he doesn't remember when gun ivy caused literally all gun items to be nerfed
Uh...
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>>538608398
Actual troonpost
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>>538629281
Honestly I really like Calico's gameplay as is and don't want to change much. Her bombs can already nuke people and her new bomb tier 3 is nasty if you can stick them all on a single person. The only thing you really need to do to make her better is to make going Alva before t3 worthwhile and make her claw dash a little easier to land/control since as it its a little hard to aim.
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>>538619071
The color of your "pen" is predetermined by your character
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>have literally only seen a single calico player ever
>didn't even realize they were on my team fir the first 25 minutes
What does this character actually do?
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>>538615648
delete paige from the game please
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>>538629824
drifters is pink?
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>>538628584
this but unironically if she was a cat anthro with big tits i'd play her
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>>538629872
As a drifter player it seems that the character specifically exists to be better than me in every way
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>>538629872
She's a burst damage assassin type character. Her 1 is sticky bombs that are hard to aim, her 2 is a dash that deals melee damage in a big AoE that's hard to aim, but grants some self heal, her 3 turns her into Alva where she gains move speed and can't be seen on the minimap, and her 4 deals instant AoE damage while turning her invunerable and dealing a second burst when it pops again. She's very cooldown dependent and her full combo is strong; but she lacks tools to keep people in her effective range and has limited sustain.
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>>538630041
You must be absurdly dogshit
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>>538630119
She's like the inverse of door man where she puts herself in time out and waits for her team to save her. Her damage is comparable when there isnt the passive bonus. She is good versus drifter for sure
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>>538622168
Maybe because it's an arena shooter where everyone has the same abilities, retard
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green abrahams is the new meta
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>>538619810
he would unironically dedicate an entire week to doing this and make it a major update instead of simply spending 2 minutes nerfing seven
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>>538619810
>special oiled up speedo legendary skin for the hero!
This would unironically make Deadlock go viral on Twitter, Tiktok, Reddit, and Tumblr
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>>538622464
By far the worst part of the game, I use my mic like 70% of the games but there's occasionally the times where either out of spite or sheer retardation even with the buff (that they didnt help take) they refuse to stop farming and will eventually lose you the game or force you to win 5v6. They just won't stop hitting jungle. I think all jungle camps should be frozen for like 1 minute after rejuvenator is taken
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>>538630598
Green Abrams only works if the enemy team is retarded and your team can actually follow up.
Enjoy an 80/20 loss/win ratio.
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>>538630083
What's the combo?
Melee 2 into 1 into 3 and run away?
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>>538629873
but she's the only cute female next to mina in this game
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i miss being the real playtest bros...
i miss getting a random patch that dropped a new character or item or just fucking around with the urn 20 million times....
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>>538631428
>I miss the game being shit bros...
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>>538631428
I don't. But I do miss half-way decent matchmaking.
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matchmaking good seven isn't broken either haze bad
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>>538631520
Yeah, Hero Labs sucked. But Fathom and Wrecker better come back someday.
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>>538631747
>fathom
faggot, he is slork
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>>538628584
this
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>>538632119
People would actually play her no matter how bad she is.
See: Mina.
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>>538632119
>>538628584
i think they were too pussy to go full on animal heads before Billy.
but now they said fuck it.
plus making Vyper a full on snake.

(though sadly Calico would still be a fugly hairless cat woman probably)
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>>538629904
Well he's white so it should be
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Kelvin players are niggers
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>>538632639
I'd take even a Sphinxcatgirl over what we have...
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>>538632119
No you get dei niggerslop #293629
enjoy your valve developers!
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spirit billy
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>>538633053
I'm black and even I would prefer a literal cat woman.
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'Member when Nekoscore was a thing and people said it was fake as a shittercope, then when Yoshi finally introduced real ranks everyone with a relatively high nekoscore was Phantom/Ascendant/Eternus and everyone with a low nekoscore wasn't? I member
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>>538630980
slash in, arctic blast, cover them in bombs and ult
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>>538633178
Remember when people gave a shit about rank in an invite-only alpha?
Remember when 9/10ths if the playerbase quit for 8-10 months and then all got rank-decayed to initiate 1?
Remember when they all showed back up and combined with the sheer volume of smurfs: initiate matches are the new Oracle+?
Oh wait... that's right now...
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^ ritualist rank
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>>538629872
I tried her and I still don't know the answer. I felt like I was doing nothing, her gun is absolute dogshit, can't jungle at all and lategame does nothing vs tanks or even the non-tanks
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>enemy drifter runs at you
>he's 12k behind and feeding his ass off
>he keeps running at you
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>>538630083
Didn't they remove the heal from the melee
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>>538633510
No she still gets a heal on hit, it's a "small heal" that gets upgraded at the Tier 1 talent.

I don't know how good it is, seems nice for laning but the move is so janky and shitty, really needs better control or tracking or something. You try to look up to dash away but it just flings you forward and you overshoot people ALL the time.
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>>538633434
it's ritualist like top 10% of the playerbase?
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>>538633510
still heals on heroes and procs lifestrike/melee lifesteal
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the game needs a character like mercy or luna snow for the egirls.
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>>538633669
That's literally Paige.
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>>538633669
Useless nigger character Paige is in the game
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>>538633630
ritualist is the top of the bell curve, better than half the playerbase but still barely knows how to play
so like gold rank in other games
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>>538633178
i remember when phantom was considered the permastuck shitter rank instead of arcanist/alchemist
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>>538633630
meant to be left side of the bell curve but it's like top 25%
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>>538633738
>>538633772
Paige would still be too hard for them.
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At this point just give the win, this is so sad. We were hardly winning too.
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>>538633901
Two of her abilities are just a beam you aim
One is baby heal
sword is to make sure you dont miss the baby boy beam
And her last hits are unmissable
This character was made for toddlers
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>Theyre taking ranks in Deadlock seriously again!
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>>538634089
t. ritualist
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>>538634089
^ will still be stuck ritualist rank even when the full game releases
^ peaked gold rank in any other comp game he plays
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>>538633630
Probably more like top 15%, the massive initiate population throws things off a bit
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>>538634230
god i wish that were me
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>>538634230
Is this based off a voiceline or something
Actually is there a wiki cataloguing voicelines yet?
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>>538634230
I saw that post on the reddit with a zillion upboats. Why? Because she's killing the chud who hits on her in one voice clip? It's so cringe.
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Personally. I think denying CS makes this game not fun, everything else is great however
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>>538634308
Why does Eternus jump at the end like that?
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>>538634468
MMR doesn't cap and once you get that high you get much more for a win than you lose for a loss so you kind of get stuck there
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>>538634382
The artist was mad about playing against Lash. see twitter
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>>538634658
Hmm I assumed as much, kinda silly reaching the end there where you could be say 2k mmr and your opponents are dudes with 2trillion mmr
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Denying is a completely worthless mechanic as it stands now. The team the minion belonged to has an advantage on securing its soul, meaning you can only deny the enemy creep if
1. it died in a place where the enemy players cant secure the soul, for example behind a wall
2. the enemy player is shit and just forgot you can do that
it's nothing like denying in Dota, it's just a useless bloat mechanic that should be revamped in some way.
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>>538634426
rent free
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>>538634708
>Got raped by The Lash so xhe drew impotent revenge art
KWAB
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Doing it for when you lose to a Gray Talon in lane is SOUL though
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Been revisiting the game and giving every hero a try, so far my favs are Geist and Dynamo. Anybody else I should definitely check out?
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>>538634885
jeet shill, what the fuck are you talking about? Also you forgot to mention the redditman
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yes denying is famously very skill based in dota where you can play a hero that has an attack animation 20 times better than your opponent's with more damage
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>>538634827
kinda ironic you say this when this exists>>538634426
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THE STREETS OF OSAKA
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>>538634948
The goat
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>>538634984
>what is wave equilibrium management
>what is creep aggro
skill issue, dog
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>>538635018
The Lash rapes all three of those characters so the existence of that image is not only okay, it's actually good.
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>>538634308
the rank system is so ass
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Eternus rank is full of players who stream shooters for a living and/or went pro in other games so clearly the game is competitive enough, what reason do I have to believe a random anon crying "Imagine caring about your rank i-i-i-i-it's an alpha test" is anything but a shitter coping because his rank is low?
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>>538633669
Game doesn't really work with a passive healer type desu, they share souls in lane and even support types like Paige and Dynamo still have to farm and walk around the map collecting stuff to farm
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>>538635098
>posting this while you cry and shittercope about getting denied in lane
skill issue, dog
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>>538634948
Viscous.
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>>538599223
>my crazy new build… WORKS? (Eternus player—I also coach)
>video is just clips of their stream where they don’t even carry much
>ritualist badge at the match screen
>even though they’re smurfing their balls off they’ll teabag and flame people
These niggers are disgraceful
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Victor is honest
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>>538634308
Is this a Rivals situation where people who have never played ranked just get dumped in the first tier
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>>538635230
actually eternus rank is full of players who play in 6 stacks that communicate properly and try to win, their individual skill is not necessarily that high besides a few exceptions
turns out having friends is the most difficult skill for an assfaggots players
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>>538634824
before they remove denying, they should remove the crates
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>>538634078
isn't aiming paige projectile hard?
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>>538599187
Neither one.
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>>538635415
the sweaty eternus players in the deadlock category are almost always 2-3 man queueing at most thougheverbeit
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>Initiate players coping on why they're not Eternus
Sorry you're not sigma
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We need a Techies hero. I'm getting tired of having to actually interact with the game when 3-4 retards refuse to stop randomly brooling while down 10k souls and going 0-10. I just wanna be an annoying rat that makes 'muh 1v1s' fags seethe.
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>>538635282
are you retarded? where did I cry about getting denied? holy fucking mongoloid
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what do we think about bananas only
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>>538635384
yes but all matches are ranked so ritualist 1 represents every new player
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>>538627482
TRVTHNVKE
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Doorman ult actually takes skill because you need to keep track of how good the enemy team is at escaping the Baroness in each stage of the game
Ironically the longer they spend in there the more of a hassle it is to deal with them
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>>538635545
I did, what's wrong with it
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Is Geist a good hero to play to carry games? I have been trying the 1 bomb build and while the poke is great I’m not really able to do close up 1v1s
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can all agree that the game needs more hot white females characters?
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>>538636083
yes shill, doorman is a very skilled hero, hopefully you use your rupees earned by posting this to purchase a toilet so you dont shit outside like an animal
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>>538636090
fat
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>>538636267
I've never played the legend of zelda
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>>538633669
A support with beam type weapon that has aim assist (can auto latch within the crosshair area), targeted heal, targeted damage boost, and one-click global heal ultimate would be GREAT!!!
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>>538636242
that applies to everything
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>>538633958
i almost lost 6v5 yesterday
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I wish there were 0 female characters in this and any other hero-based game
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>>538636615
Just play TF2
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>>538636681
Pyro is a girl though
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WE ARE..... THE DOORMEN..... A COMMUNITY FOR.... THE MOST SKILL INTENSIVE.... HERO THE GAME HAS EVER.... SEEN!
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I still don't know how souls work.
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>>538636759
I'm not getting into this today
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>>538635613
right i forgot that you have to que in a party lower than 4 to play the system into matching you against solo ques
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>>538599835
Most fighting games aren't free so smurfing can be expensive. And due to the 1v1 nature of fighting games the ranked system will put you where you belong very quickly.
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>>538637135
Just make an alt steam account, tell SF6 you're a complete noob and they'll let you wail on pablogonzales.2009 all you want
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>>538636943
>guys they all 6 stack for easy wins
>actually they uhhhh they 2 stack for easy wins i forgot
ritualist cope
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>>538637212
>just make an alt account and buy the game again bro
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>>538637212
I remember when it was pablogonzales.2002
Time flies, huh
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>>538599835
Smurfing in fighting games is awful, I didn't want to spend money on certain characters in SFV so I'd library share the game to an alt Steam account and grind Survival mode for 10 minutes to unlock them with the free currency, and everyone you fight at low rank is some flavor of thirdie nigger playing on the worst internet you've ever seen and even if they aren't a thirdie it's still the worst internet you've ever seen, even if you enjoyed beating up noobs it's a torturous experience
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>>538637576
Uh huh
>>538637606
My exact thoughts when typing it lmao, I originally typed pablogonzales.2003
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>Been terrorizing low ranks lobbies for days now
>Still Initiate 3 only
Is this what smurfing feels like?
No wonder why people all like to smurf so much.
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alchemist is basically high elo
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>>538633459
Valve was cooking, as the kids say, with these voice lines.
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>>538637714
do you have low self esteem by chance
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>Finally climbed to Ritualist
OH YES OH YES
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When will Valve add another ice motif hero? Kelvin looks too ugly sorry not sorry.
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>>538638235
Is this when he kills lois
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>>538638296
>Is this when he kills lois
No he didn't kill Lois
Superman did it.
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>hit arcanist
Congratulate me for having a pulse.
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>>538638131
what's your go to build on paige?
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>>538638786
Congratulations fellow, living, breathing, human.
Let's add thinking to that adjectives list shall we?
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>>538638949
I'll do my best bwo
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>>538639034
That's the spiritNo pun intended
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>>538638942
Piggy's build with higher priority on upgrading her 3rd skill
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>ritualist lobby
>kelvin lets the walker explode because he's clearing the ancient camp
I get why Seven hates this nigger holy fucking SHIT
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>>538638272
Every hero in the game is ice themed at the moment because cold front is so strong
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>>538638272
This. It doesn't make sense for Kelvin to have ice power since he has no idea of his current condition. His ability animation even looks more Sci-Fi than original Miku.
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this VG thread is dog water
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potentially controversial idea: if players spend too much time under an enemy tower dealing damage to players, it smacks the enemies down, stunning them every second and dealing damage. This would give players some defense against dives while also being somewhat avoidable if you don't overextend.
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>>538638786
deadlock trannies are insufferable
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>>538640204
uh this isn't /mhg/
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>>538636093
I love Geist and while bomb is good in shitlow it can’t really carry. While you get a lot of damage and can farm well and can defend well you lack chase, follow up, or duel potency. If your team isn’t good you’ll just be caught out and the damage you do won’t have any impact

If you want to carry with Geist you want to not overly specialise
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>>538640317
behead deadlock players
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>>538638786
congrats anon!
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>>538640095
isn't this already a thing by the guardians smacking your ass
just play ring a round the rosie by it's legs
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>win
>it's the most boring win humanly possible
>lose
>it's the most soul draining loss humanly possible cause 3-4 gorilla nigger retards that should have been euthanized at birth in the name of eugenics are on your team with 10+ deaths and 5 or less kills EACH
>win a game you should have by all accounts lost
>it sucks just as much as a normal win cause the only reason why it happened was cause 3-4 people on the enemy team did something fucking stupid out of sheer hubris and fucking died-- throwing the game completely
>every character fucking plays the same so there's nothing to shake up the monotony in that regard either
What is honestly the fucking point without oddball shit that simply does not play the game conventionally to mix things up a bit after 20 straight games of what may as well be copy-pasted gun/spirit heroes? Namely something like Techies.
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>>538641394
play muslim bebop with majestic leap
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Which heroes do we considered as dishonest hero?

Lash, Seven, Bebop? Maybe Infernus?
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>>538641732
your inability to look up or notice the huge blue arc does not make lash dishonest, it only makes you a retard
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>>538641732
Seven and Infernus are by far the most dishonest. Everyone else pales in comparison.

They're both good in lane, good mid game, and good late game.
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>>538641732
>>538641870
What does dishonest mean at this point. Because I thought it meant tricky or capable of turning the tides very easily, not just OP
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Oh no! I cant believe it! Diamond Eye the secret rival sibling of the Amber Hand and the Sapphire Flame is trying to take over the world with his army of candle troopers and mechanized runic horrors! We must put our differences aside and defend the uhh place! MortallVSImmortall
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>>538641687
Did that. Not good enough.
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>>538642242
>former enemies united together against greater evil
kino
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>>538642242
>update that adds 4 new heroes
>These heroes have come here, from another time, and another world!
>it's fucking techies, pyro, ricochet guy, and Adrian Shephard
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>>538642242
>>538642893
These posts gave me cringe.
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>>538625097
for me it's stamina, enduring speed and fleetfoot on every hero
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remember when we did inhouses? hahaha.....
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>>538638131
>play the most baby character in the game
I hate paige so so so fucking much. She's extremely unhealthy for the game.
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>>538644129
The americans that had 10 braincells between them and 0 ability to play the game did make those lobbies hard to enjoy honestly
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Remember when decay was good? hahaha....

Seriously why did they ruin the item so much? Why would you ever take decay over healbane?
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>>538644129
Yeah but they were a shitshow because you would have Alchemists and Ascendants in the same lobby
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>>538644287
rent free
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What are the timings for a Deadlock match, exactly? 2mins for boxes, 5mins for first buffs, etc... I want to study those for the future, where do I find em?
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>>538644129
Dota 2 has a million concurrent players and not enough dotards for a /d2g/ inhouse
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>>538644496
Decay serves only a single purpose, to build your rage meter.
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>on Haze
>Bebop bullies me in lane
>Keeps bullying me after lane
>convinces his entire team to focus me
>they all repeatedly dump everything on me and then get wiped by my team
Is Haze secretly a tank?
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>>538645052
its not good for that anymore
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>>538644281
In fact Paige is very healthy for the game. As a support she allows her team to farm everything in the map mid to late game while retaining her effectiveness as a hero. Less competition = less tension = less arguing = happy teammates!
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>>538644281
she is incredibly sexy though
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>>538645516
this image and post are making me hate paige good job
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>>538599187
>better to run, than curse the road
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>>538644787
wtf is this real? how did they make the scientist do that
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>>538635952
>this Nigga only plays Bebop
>Come back to the game after 9 months
>this Nigga still only plays Bebop but 2000 matches
Extreme autism
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>>538645864
If you didn't hate Paige already you're a lot cause
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>>538599187
I SEE PAIGE!
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>>538599035
Mods are cheats if they make the model bigger, brighter or colorful. Facts.
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>>538645516
NEEEEEEEERRRDD!!
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>>538646087
>anons were implying she had no ass
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>>538599187
FOR THE DJINN ARGGHGGGRG GAAAAAAAAAAHH RRRRRGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH OOAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGRHHHHHH
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>>538644281
fragging some shitty paige e-girl is peak deadlock for me right now
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>>538645864
She should have been a bug
Literal bookworm
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There are characters much more brain dead and frustrating than Paige, she just black holes seethe by being a female support
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>>538646392
she blackholes at least 2 different BBCs per night
t. proud American
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>>538646517
You can't make this haha gotcha towards yanks when you're the one who thought about black cock unprompted.
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>>538645516
cute nerd
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>>538646517
No, you're clearly a pajeet.
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>one last game before having to go wageslave
>get a mcginnis who doesn't do anything besides shoot guardian, literally 0 player damage
>we break their guardian and the haze and viscous are 20% HP
>bell both of them and headshot haze and get her down to like 40 HP
>McGinnis is still running away at full HP
>die
>okay whatever, she's a retard.
>jump the out of position haze with two bells and chunk her to 40%
>McGinnis says "I don't want to fight this, dude"
>esc
>exit game
I too love playing a PvP game and doing literally nothing but shooting creeps and guardians the entire game and actively avoiding any sort of PvP against players I can absolutely kill
kill all mcginnis players.
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>>538634382
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/characters/
Most of the transcripts are generated, but I personally ensured that Seven's conversations are accurate.
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>>538645516
Literally trans puppygirl
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>>538646523
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>>538647178
B& for leebaiting
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>>538646523
how fried is your brain that even while playing a video game you need to see bare ass and tits while playing?
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>>538646392
she blackholes at least 2 different BBCs per night
t. proud American
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>>538647335
fuck off puriteen newfag its just visual gag sex sex sex maybe you have problem huh retard
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>>538647076
Thank you brother
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>>538646523
>Overalls braces threaded through nipple rings
Genius. Normal head is better, though.
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>>538647335
very
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>>538647335
I ask the same question about people who play any games just bcause they are anime themed.

Anon, who said I use these mods?
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>>538644787
2mins - boxes and small camps
5mins - powerups and medium camps
8 minutes - vending machines and large camps
10 minutes - urn + second buffs
buffs and urns respawn every 5 minutes. camps have weird timers i can never remember
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I MUST BROOOOOL GRAAAAAAAH
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>>538647625
My fuarking hero
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>>538599187
league characters dont talk like that at all

they talk about the in-game lore with unsubtle allusions to real-world politics through a californian liberal lens

pass
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>match starts
>some nigger is AFK
>his team pauses four times waiting for him to come back
why do these """people""" queue up if they're not going to be there when the game finds a match?
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what sensitivity do you guys play on i was using 800 dpi 1.05 sensitivity but after messing around in aim trainers i feel like i need to lower it
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>>538646087
Back to my original point. Some models are blatantly made to just give you an edge. Pic is more obvious about it.

>>538646523
>mods deleted sideboob
Come on guys. What the fuck?
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deydemception
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>Still no pink glittery Gaybrams skin
wtf
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getting this one
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>>538648273
GYATTTTTT
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>>538647470
very pajeet post
must have bob and vagene pls miss or rape u next week
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>>538646234
I TAKE YOUR WIFE
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>>538622407
If you're with a party you're the king of ganks as Mo with magic carpet. Rush it right after laning phase and zoom across the map, yelling to your teammates that the missile has locked in
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>>538599035
original
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>>538648189
They just don't make mods like they used to...
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>>538638131
enjoy your 8 game loss streak tomorrow
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>>538646087
eating out her ass
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>>538645516
she'll only make me happy if she sucks my cock
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>>538650068
Victor....
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>pick paradox
>just fucking BROOL nonstop
>go from lane to lane BROOLing
>no idea what's going on elsewhere
starting to see the vision
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>Go in as Holliday
>Lasso someone
>Team still pussyfooting and strafing back and forth shooting enemy team
>Instead of shooting the person I lasso'd
>Enemy team tries their hardest to safe the guy I lasso'd an all W key
>My team doesn't know how to fight and flops over
Sometimes I hate the matchmaking in this game. Even had a Lash that would ground strike on the ground instead of getting some air..
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I keep forgetting how much that STINKS
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For me it's obviously:
>Hahahaha… you see that shit?
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So when do we get an actual Sniper hero? Vindicta does no fucking damage outside of like 30 meters and is more of an annoying, flying mid range marksman than an actual Sniper. Grey Talon is just le skillshot hero and just happens to have the bow thematic going on. Do I seriously have to make one myself for Icefraud to blatantly rip off just so we can finally have one?
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>>538650431
>Even had a Lash that would ground strike on the ground instead of getting some air..
it is called ground strike not air strike dumbass
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>>538650578
literally what more do you want
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>ganked by a big ass spider
spider hero when
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>>538645868
>yonder I wonder
>your king moves on his own accord
why do skeletons have the most based moving dialog? skeleton occultist when?
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I think I'll stop playing the game until they nuke victor and drifter
they are too strong and they NEVER end on my fucking team and always top score
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>>538650732
A sniper that actually does damage across actually long sightlines instead of tickling niggers like Vindicta does.
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>>538650578
Never because real snipers are unfun to play against. Zero risk high reward gameplay is a mistake Valve learned all too well from TF2
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We need another frank hero but he's made out of random bones
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>>538650431
It's gentleman's agreement to ignore anyone lassoed by Holliday or grappled by Moe.
They are simply gentlemen of character who udnerstand how unsporting such abilities are
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>>538650957
>bones
today I will remind them
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>>538634824
>1. it died in a place where the enemy players cant secure the soul, for example behind a wall
That's the entire point. It forces engagement from either side by aligning their sightlines onto the same minion.
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>>538650732
>bozo the demented ghost clown
>constantly screams HO HO HA HA
>has 6.83 heart tattoo
>can damage the other teams gaurdian from his with very low damage shrapnel
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>>538650763
spider hero with a big ass when
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>>538651454
trapper bros...
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>>538650935
Except it's not "zero risk" cause of how mobile a lot of the heroes in Deadlock are. Deadlock has actual answers to an actual Sniper-- just like Dota did. Abrams ult into charge and then beating the shit out of them. Haze existing at all. Lash existing at all. Bebop. Majestic Leap. Veil Walker/Shadow Weave. Meanwhile the only real answer in TF2 to Sniper was Scout. Spy and MAYBE Soldier/Demo if the map was open enough. But usually just Scout and Spy. That and Sniper in TF2 just one-shots everybody-- obviously that wouldn't be the case here. You make said Sniper a low mobility hero that has to choose between fucking off entirely from the fight upon being caught unawares or simply die along with a low base HP pool and it's perfectly balanced. Add on a max bullet range like Drifter (at like ~75 meters) and you also limit their sightline options too but still make them able to meaningfully impact a longer range than any other hero in the game by having their minimum damage be like 50% of their max damage instead of tickling people for 1-2 damage.
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whats a fun drifter build thats not gun holding m1 at people ? this hero is so boring
your ultimate gives you spirit on hit so I assume if you go spirit you still want fire rate m1 bullshit
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>>538642086
>dishonest

no particular weaknesses, they can play from behind better than everyone else, their kits enable them to do retarded plays that just work out
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i hate parry so fucking much
such a retarded fucking mechanic
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>>538651839
Sorry bud but spirit drifter is just worse gun build. All of your bonus damage is still from gun and your 1 isn't powerful enough to warrant building burst
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>>538651940
filter'd
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>>538651940
parry is fine, I just really hate the new heroes. they are beyond broken and there is no way they didn't know it and released them anyways.
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>>538647074
>teammate speaks to me
>esc + abdandon + alt+f4 + uninstall + sell my PC
unironically
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>won 7 games out of 10
>rank hasn't changed
what?
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>>538651940
sometimes I wonder if this game has too many buttons

Like sure you'll learn them with time but it makes for a annoying curve. I'm still fatfingering shit, misfiring abilities, forgetting my ctrl key exists etc.
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How the fuck do people get good at Doorman
I don't mean good, I mean GOOD
The mindfuck kind of good
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>>538647074
literally had 2 mcgnnis in the last games that spent most of their time in the jungle.
I had to literally beg them over the mic to actually shoot the guardians and help in the lane. we could have won if McGinnis actually did her fucking job but i guess farming items and then losing because the other team is stacked is more important to them.
>>538652486
at least you are winning games probably lost like 6 games in a row because somehow the people that know how to play always end up on the other team, usually with a victor, seven and drifter while I get people who literally installed the game. Played a alchemist 2 match where wraith was completely new to the game and didn't know it had voice chat
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>>538650894
>drifter is too strong
I'm garbage pail tier, but I have never seen drifter take over a game in any capacity. Even if they are 20 k souls ahead all they is farm the same retards and die to any AOE.
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>>538627386
Man, I REALLY suck.
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>>538652732
do more clever plays than just "cart into walker memes"
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>>538650957
>>538650578
The Big Game Hunter

The European version of The Baxter Society's best hunter, come to America to truly see what monsters lurk in the concrete jungle. He has no reason for the Patreon's wish, being insanely wealthy (hinting at royalty) and exceptionally talented, but the chance to murd-hunt some big game is reason enough.

1. No.77 Grenade - A large-radius grenade that does a burning DOT and makes enemies highly visible via glowing to show where they are hiding

2. Spectral Ox - Get on top of a spectral ox that charges forward a respective distance. You can control direction by holding 2 during it or aim while riding it to catch pesky nuisances trying to get away. Does a small amount of damage if he runs into anyone.

3. Hunting Expertise
On activate, switch between one of three weapons: a close-range shotgun, a long-range elephant gun, and a long-range sniper. Reloads are independent of each other, and cooldown of items like Active Reload/Quicksilver are tied to a per-gun basis. Gives permanent buffs to the weapon used

4. The Might of Europa
Hunter summons four spectral infantrymen from a great war. Each one is equipped with a rifle that scales both off of spirit and off gun. During ult, you can change their formation to concentrate on one target or any target by tapping the ult again.

Upsides: great gun damage
Downsides: slow movement speed and poor stamina
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>>538652803
>AOE
never seen any of them die to AOEs either.
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>>538652732
Spatial IQ issue
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>>538645516
How do I get a gf like this?
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>>538647074
This is why I'm not a big fan of pvp games. Too many people don't even play to fight others it's so fucking cringe.
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>>538653043
You gotta be tall, dark and handsome like Victor.
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>>538652732
once you git gud at basic character movement tech it's just a couple of hours of practice on an empty map
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>>538652995
>he doesn't get alchemical fire spam every game
lucky son, im so sick of stake/fire vindicta
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>>538652995
drifter dies to hard CC and disarm neuters him effectively. he also has no CC himself, so while he can shit damage out quickly just a single bullet resist item is usually enough to survive an encounter. there's a reason why he's only 50% WR in higher elos
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>>538652803
That's because garbage pail drifters won't buy things outside the mandated build when they could pick up silencer or phantom strike and carry fights
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>Enemy charges up a melee attack
>Parry
>Parry visibly activates
>I get hit anyway due to lag
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>>538652486
I win 6 out of 10 games on average with my two most played heroes (with a lot of games), and I moved from mid alchemist to arcanist iii within a MONTH. This “ranking” system is actually retarded, and I see why people make alts to smurf to their real MMR
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>build full fucking spirit resist
>still get bursted
>still die to spirit onhit
what's the fucking point
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>>538653460
Yeah, I'm definitely climbing, but it's so slow that I'd have to NEETmax in order to reach a rank where I have a 50/50 winrate. It doesn't respect players' time at all.
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>>538653515
buy plate idiot
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>>538653416
>Heavy melee incoming
>first instinct is to dodge backwards instead of pressing f
>get hit anyway
I NEED to press F.
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>>538652947
Boring.
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>>538653570
both league and dota figured out that if you're winning 8 out of 10 games then your mmr gains should increase so you stop tanking game quality for everyone else by kicking puppies
not sure why the deadlock devs completely forgot about that
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>>538653581
that was with plate
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>>538653416
this never happened to me before the hero voting update
i wonder if something actually changed, i've parried and got hit by a melee like half a second after and it still just hits me it feels random whether parrying will work now when i used to consistently get them
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>>538653460
I am sure this is not entirely accurate but according to this the huge majority of players, such as myself are on the low ranks.
https://tracklock.gg/ranks

Only around 80% of matches are on EMISSARY or above.
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>>538653416
>latin america problems
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>>538653912
>now on the upper end of the bell curve due to the huge influx of new people
m-made it
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WHEN!?
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>>538653987
I'm Russian and I play on the default server. I guess it could be Wi-Fi.
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>>538653912
>Only around 80% of matches are on EMISSARY or above.
you mean the other way around, 80% of matches are below emissary
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What about a giant skeleton girl hero, she's a fashionista that likes to collect bones to modify her body. She comments on everyone's bone structure like Abrams forearms or how grey talon and lash must have strong leg bones, she also hates viscous cuz he's a boneless bitch.
Her gun could fire in a very high arc as she's chucking scrap bones she didn't care to keep, like a Mario hammer bro.

A giant wide skeleton with twin pigtails made out of bones and a girly voice, she could be the first femtank. Maybe her name could be Calcy (pronounced "Kelsey")

Abilities:
Bone wall: creates a small bone barricade that blocks all projectiles and prevents splash abilities from hitting behind it. Has its own hp and it can be used to block doorways. If Calcy melees it then it explodes and fires shrapnel in the opposite direction.

Other abilities, idk lol
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>>538653912
*Only around 20% of matches are on EMISSARY or above.

>>538654198
yes, sorry
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who is this vegas fella and why should i be following his builds?
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>>538654391
he's retarded streamer #1904810
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>>538654208
Also because she fires her weapon in a hire arc, she can still "shoot" heroes from safely behind her wall, I think I'm cooking.
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>>538654208
this is an extremely tranny coded character but if you lean into that by making them funny ill allow it.
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>>538654492
a character commenting on browbones is not tranx friendly
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>>538654198
its pretty clear they are attempting to reduce ranks and also not piss of ladder fags by removing their rank.
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>>538654492
Well why wouldn't it be funny? She just wants to kill people for their bones to make herself look cooler. That's all there is to it.
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>>538654706
so mcginnis walls with hp bars?
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>>538654492
>tranny coded
how?
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>>538654762
>>538654208
wall that you can melee for offensive is a cool idea
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>>538654762
Not that large, think like the size of the barrel barricades in the lane, just big enough for her massive ass to hide behind, and since you punch them to make them explode it could be used as a nuke. Maybe if an enemy hero melees the wall it parries them.
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>keep calling her Yamero without realizing
>someone gets on mic and is extremely pissed off about it
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>>538650483
>beat the fuck out of Mina
>she runs away screaming ''this is no longer fun''
>top kek
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>>538655008
My autistic friend (genuinely autistic, diagnosed) got extremely pissed off when I would call Cortana "Kotaku".
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Done with the game. Uninstalled. Just such a bad lose streak with teammates that just don't pay attention and let people split push and if i'm the one holding off the split push 2-3 of them come at the lane while somehow none of our other lanes are pushed and the rest of my team is either jungling on the other side or brooling to no avail. I'm just FUCKING SICK OF IT.
I AM COMMUNICATING IN VOICE CHAT TOO. I AM PLAYING WITH PEOPLE WITH VOICE CHAT. YET THEY HAVE NO FUCKING INTELLEGIENCE.

I'm NA but somehow had some faggot rusko retard playing lash and when me and a teammate were pushing blue and communicated we were pushing blue. He went to their jungle instead. And when we got pushed out and no pressure I asked him why he didn't push blue, you know what he said? "my gun do no damage I cant shoot tower". I told him YOU HAVE FUCKING ULT YOU COULD ULT THEM OFF THEIR TOWER AND HELP and retard could not comprehend this "why would I ult they under tower". I'm so sick of it. I'm in emissary and I am literally never getting out of this rank because every match I lose is a team that FUNDAMENTALLY does not understand how to play who do not push who chase kills endlessly who do not know how a FUCKING MOBA WORKS. I'M SICK OF IT. and then there are the STUPID FUCKING MATCHES where the matchmaking of teams is HORRIBLY skewed against me and there is literally nothing you can do about it because there's still no pick/ban system at all.

IM
SICK
OF
IT
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>>538654492
Actual brainrot, nothing in ''haha funny skeleton gall'' speaks tranny to me. You have spent too much time on Discord really
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>>538655234
We're talking about hero concepts, go cry on reddit.
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>>538654842
why not just go full ES and spawn shit you can throw at people
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>>538655234
>Done with the game. Uninstalled.
remove it from your library if you are so done with it
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>>538654582
uh that's all they do is comment about theirs and others
>>538654706
woooooof
>>538654815
see above.
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>>538655391
What if all her abilities were different things that had their own hp bars?

For example, now that lanes are always 2v2, she could have some skeletal dog or monkey she throws at someone that clings to them doing damage over time and it has a very long duration, or can be destroyed early by a teammate attacking it.
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>>538655624
>ability that requires a teammate to not be a retarded mouth breather
No.
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>>538655624
>use skeletal wall to block a doorway between teammate A and teammate B.
>throw skeletal monkey on teammate A and B has to break down the barricade in order to save A from the monkey.
this is all coming together...
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>>538655746
Oh man they better rework Mo's ult FAST!
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>>538655427
see what above? woooooof? what?
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>>538652947
I think the grenade + movement ability parts of his kit are too similar to what we already have. He is supposed to be a hunter pro, then wouldn't stealth abilities make more sense? Something like Meld from Dota2
>Templar Assassin conceals herself, becoming invisible as long as she remains still. If Meld's invisibility is broken by attacking an enemy, Lanaya will deal bonus damage to the enemy and reduce their armor for 12 seconds.
What other replacement could be I don't know. Something to debuff the enemt while tracking its moves and reveal it on the map maybe?
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giant skeleton tranny is OK. but what if...we made a giant sasquatch and threw his shit at people?
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>>538655935
>tranny
?????
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>>538655935
>haha le funny shit and fart comedy hero
Kys
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>>538656081
*kisses you*
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what would his kit be like?
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>>538655624
>third ability: bone density test
>Calcy does a powerful melee attack, or maybe some thunderclap shockwave(?) that slows the target and greatly reduces their accuracy for a duration, makes it harder from them to shoot the skeleton monkey off a teammate.
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>>538656313
Lash is already in the game as the token Sea Man
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i find deadlock characters more interesting than tf2 characters
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>>538655913
not comparable in the slightest but go off
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>>538656537
It is comparable in the slightest.
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>>538655108
Congrats on being a retarded weeb I guess
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>>538656372
>billy 1 with accuracy debuff

please no
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>>538656372
>>538656642
doorman's bell and mirage's old tornado have shown me that any accuracy reducing or dodge% chance mechanics have NO place in the game without them being incredibly frustrating and unfun
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>>538656642
She throws big bone at someone then, the ability is called bonk and it debuffs their accuracy and fire rate only.
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>>538656727
I think they're fine, I just don't think they should be a on a close range melee-ish ability.
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>>538656114
You smell like monkey shit go away
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>fall behind in farm
>every jungle camp taken
>every lane pushed
this game is designed to be as annoying as fucking possible
atleast dota has a gigantic fucking map full of farm
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>>538650578
>So when do we get an actual Sniper hero?
Hopefully never, sniperfags can go play something else or be happy with what they have.
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>>538655934
Safari hunters were not known for stealth, they were known for using Africans to scare animals towards the hunter so he can shoot a layup. Having a bunch of Africans running around dying and poking the enemy with spears might be a little offensive, and I tried to avoid the most obvious offensive stuff. How about this?

1. Bait
Hunter can deploy fake boxes, statues, and jungle creeps. If the trap is triggered, the victim is pulled off the ground in a net and revealed to the enemy team, suspended until someone comes and gets them down - friend or foe.

2. Scatter
Based on Phantom Lancer, Hunter disappears for a short time and reappears as himself along with two phantom soldiers. These phantom soldiers can shoot, doing 1/4th of Hunter's damage and have 1/4th of Hunter's health. Spirit scales both damage and health. During the disappearance, Hunter can move for 2 seconds in any direction. Stamina is used normally.
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>>538655234
people being dumb faggots is not a problem exclusive to mobas. people in general are dumb faggots.
you can't let it get to you. it's one thing when morons ruin one match but once you take that negative attitude into the next match you're self sabotaging. pro players all have methods of mentally resetting between matches to not go on huge ass lose streaks.
people will never get better. times change but people don't. you're better off trying to just improve your own macro and micro then ever trying to get a retard to do what you want. statlocker takes into consideration when you're playing well and playing bad so you can gain MMR when you lose and lose MMR when you win because you got hard carried. that alone prettu much made me not give a shit about winning games and just farming and letting teammates pointlessly brawl for 20 minutes while i get gigafed
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>>538656967
Full auto ego-tripping gunfags will continue to get the rope.
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>>538656949
pick a teammate and follow them around like a lost dog, or start hittin boxes
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I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna make another furfag thread if you don't make a normie thread soon...
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>>538657139
>land one lucky shot across the map with zero risk of punishment
"heh all skill"
>haze gets right up in your ass and perfectly tracks you for 5+ seconds to kill you
"BUHHHH FULL AUTO NO SKILL FAGS!!!"
retard
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The bone tranny ult is a sniper, there.
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>>538657318
do it
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>>538657318
Please no, we haven't even hit the bump limit
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>>538657318
what part of page 10 do you not understand
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I think I like the giant bone tranny idea better than the giant rat idea at least
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Yeah I'm not sure what the point of Vindicta is at this point
>is a "sniper"
>does no damage beyond 30 meters (literally the same as full auto characters)
>building Spirit to actually do damage with her ult is basically trolling cause her Stake and Crow fucking suck
>you'd get more done even as Gun McGinnis than Gun Vindicta-- hell you could build Sharpshooter on McGinnis and just be Bastion 2.0 and still do more than Vindicta in a fight
>her only real benefit is that she can fucking fly-- but at that point both you and the enemy are just throwing pebbles at each other cause if you get closer than 30 meters while flying you just get melted cause everything out-DPSes you and you're less mobile than you are on the ground
>and if you stay outside of 30 meters you have the damage of a wet noodle
Is there even a purpose to this character in current year?
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>>538657564
>Stake and Crow fucking suck
opinion discarded. spirit/support vindicta is her strongest build by a huge margin
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>>538657372
>one lucky shot
>he didn't read >>538651749
I was clearly referring to something based on Dota Sniper, not "lmao one shots you for 450 HP from 100+ meters away". FPSniggers get the rope, this game is MOBA primary, shooter secondary.
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I refuse to believe that the game that has crackhead nigger tier movement has so many people capable of perfectly fucking tracking you to a fuckint T in shitlow elo
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>>538657474
>>538657502
The bump limit is 750. We're over that now.
Make your normalfag thread or I'll make mine.
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>>538657564
>stake and crow suck
echoshard stake is better than dynamo ult on a shorter cooldown lol
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>>538657731
>spirit/support vindicta is her strongest build by a huge margin
nta but this is kinda a problem on a character who is suppose to be a sniper
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>>538657827
If shooter game then cheaters. Simple as. At least you can make them miserable with disarms and building bullet resists.
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>>538657061
1. Stake but worse
2. Now that would be fun, we need an illusion hero in the game
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>>538657563
:)
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>>538657934
you can still build gun, and gun vindicta is still quite powerful seeing as she has a fire rate that scales with spirit power, with fire rate being one of the largest dps increases in the game
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>>538652732
wait until they fix the dogshit door placement
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>>538657564
>everything out-DPSes you
Have you tried not playing the aim character when you can't aim?
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>>538657731
Just cause it's her strongest build doesn't mean it's a remotely GOOD build. It's just her least bad build. It's still an objectively dogshit build. It's like going full Spirit as Shiv and just spamming knives-- and that shit's worthless.

>>538657923
>a hard CC bot but way more boring cause you don't even get the spectacle of the black hole
>people can still just buy Debuff Remover/Ethereal Shift/Unstoppable and tell you to fuck off
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>>538658181
>It's still an objectively dogshit build.
So why does every pro game have Vindicta first picked or first banned then? And let me you remind you that they ONLY run her as support echoshard stake
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>>538658272
>pro game
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>>538658157
Even when you beam somebody, the Haze or Infernus will still rape you unless they're a retarded spaz swinging their mouse around everywhere.
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>someone on the enemy team leaves
>one by one all of my teammates leave, 1v5
>hide on the map, tell enemy to come find me
>they don't
i'm 2gud at hide and seek
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>>538658325
yeah watch night shift
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>>538658272
>"pro game"
Nobody here believes these speds are actually pros. You can aim like a cheater and still be shit cause your brain is as smooth as glass. You need more than just aim to be an actually good player in a MOBA game.
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>>538657564
>her Stake and Crow fucking suck
didn't read the rest you are a shitter
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>>538657731
you're talking to a butthurt vindicta main, they're more delusional than ivy players
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>>538657934
sniping is on her 4 which also uses spirit.
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>>538658336
take your catastrophic skill issue somewhere else
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>>538658546
By definition, having a prize pool makes them "pros"
Anyways they're better than you so I don't give a shit about your retarded opinion.
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You have 1 minute.
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>>538658679
In a game against a Haze/Seven/Infernus with a brain you would have simply lost.
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>>538658789
I just had a 5 dollar bet with my friend during my last match, nice to know we're both pros now.
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>fall behind
>forced to suck the rotting zombies asshole or the cajun spiced farts of a vampire to catch up
thanks valve for making them the OP characters instead of Mina or Paige
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>>538652881
I just have to keep pushing. I have to escape the ranks where every match is just one giant brool (aka team fight so long that heroes that died in it respawn and join back). I have to resist the herd mentality and just farm and splitpush.
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>>538658897
Keep coping aimlet
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>>538658027
>the shitter cope
cute
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>>538658914
both frank and drifter have lower winrates the higher elo they go thobeit
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just make the furry thread, there is too much cope from shitters in here
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>>538599035
I warned you:
>>538659093
>>538659093
>>538659093
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>>538658679
I'd like to play as Vindicta instead of against her for once, but I know for a fact that I'll just miss every killshot.
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Blood Tribute is a very underrated item for Shiv. Shivs deferred damage works on it and if you combine it with radiant regen the active for bloodletting not only clears some of the deferred damage but will immediately give you a heal + move speed boost. It's basically free. I also think 50% debuff resist is EXTREMELY underrated. ANY debuff has it's time cut in half. Any. You can even go the extra mile and pick up debuff remover and have a way to get rid of any immediately bad debuffs while adding to your overall resist.
I think combining this with frenzy can make him a fucking monster but not sure about the rest of the build.
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>>538658909
>being retarded on purpose
shan't be replying to your stupid ass



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