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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/

>MAJOR NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw

>LATEST PATCHES
Sep 02 1.004.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516345493302805199
Sep 04 1.004.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516346126609155527
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Bring back highlighted super destroyers.
Remove stratagem bouncing.
Remove climbing limits.
Remove the restrictions on hellpod drop aiming outside of city maps.
Just let people play the fucking game.
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>ruins your game in your path
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>>538646167
Make reinforcement pods actually start at the beacon, not half the fucking map away where the game feels like it
Stop reinforcing me ten fucking miles outside the map, or up a cliff that I'm prevented from steering the hellpod down from
Stop taking drugs and putting my calldowns wherever the fuck you want, put them where the ball fucking landed
The consequences of caves have been disastrous for the game, especially as someone who couldn't care less about Joel's fetishes.
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Why are dragons just as tanky as BTs? Why do their wings have 100% durability? Why does destroying their wings do nothing? Why do they make 9000g maneuvers at Mach 1? Why can they still spit if you pop their sacs?
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>oh boy I sure can't wait to do some helldivan
>chang has joined
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Why are these faggots all over my western internet?
Stay in your containment zone you slanteyed fucks.
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>Go to throw 500kg into nest crater
>Remember what I have learned about where eagles come in from, and how to prevent misfortune
>move around the outside of crater, find a spot where there are no obstructions leading up to it
>Face my back to the clear area
>call in, and then throw in eagle
>Eagle comes from in completely perpendicular to my facing, 500 hits a tree anyways
Th-thanks Arrowhead
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I don't think i get support weapons
>call in anti tank launcher
>kill one heavy
>wait twice as long as orbitals or eagle to call another
when I could just drop an orbital or eagle and kill it.
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>>538646528
because they are flying bile titans with heavy armor on everything and currently the devs made it so even if you destroy the wings it wont go down
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Here is your D10 teammate
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>>538646867
Why did he need to reinforce you three times?
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>>538646778
Because portable anti tank is more for letting them build up then killing any one thing.
Two anti tanks are kinda fucking shit, you want to have like six over there, for when three bile titans show up at once and you can't 500 them all.
Otherwise, the support slot is just for fixing critical loadout issues that your primary, secondary, and grenade have at the cost of a stratagem. Once you get a good set of main slot weapons, you really don't NEED support weapons anymore.
The nerfdiver seethes at this truth.
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>>538646867
>Didn't shoot you once
Trade you, you can have my xbox kids
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>>538646778
Better to just find them usually, just don't be one of the pubbies walking right past them if you have the slot free.
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I thought they buffed the silos on release.
>Can't destroy tower
>Can't destroy jammer
Am I missing something?
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>>538646778
the play is to synergize low footprint AT with other stuff like your autocannon or overpowered primaries which then allow you to save up on those precious eagles and orbitals. I prefer to use my reds for efficient demolition of objectives. dropping a 500kg on a tank seems a waste when you can instead pop it with an EAT and use that 500kg on a detector tower or bunch of bulk fabs instead.
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>EAT
>Commando
>Silo
>NEAT
absolutely blessed loadout
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>>538646778
On the other side of the hellpod is a backpack that contains additional ammo for your RR.
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>>538647298
They did destroy them, but were quickly hotfixed and the devs stated it was "a bug"
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>>538646867
>these shots
>these kills
how
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>>538646756
The chinese are perfectly good teammates when compared to sony thirdies
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>>538647396
But it got 50 demo force, or am I misremembering?
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sex with exosuits
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>>538647405
Shot the bile titan all game I'd guess.
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>>538647298
The pre-release version that people could cheat in had 50 demo force and could destroy those structures.
The release version only has 40 so it can't.
Last week's patch notes briefly included a line saying that the demo force was being increased to 50, but it was removed an hour or so later and the devs said it was a mistake and shouldn't have been in the notes.
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>>538647475
Wouldn't know. I don't play with crossplay.
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>>538646867
you just dragged your poor unpreparedfriend into a super helldive then mocked them to strangers on the internet, there's no way a level 5 can unlock d10
They trusted you, anon.
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cleaning dropships with the epoch is peak fun
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>>538647501
This man killed 40 goddamn dragonroaches, let you play objectives unmolested, and never shot you once while doing it?
And you're complaining?
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>>538647480
you are misremembering, it released with 40
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If they want old players to help new players collect samples, then why don't they just make a mission that focuses on collecting samples?
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>>538647583
Holy shit, what's the point then. No wonder everyone calling it sucks while here I am being oblivious and keep using it.
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>>538647680
This
If you want to give low levels the best game of their life, you take them to D7 bots, not d10 bugs.
It's way less intense than it looks, everything will explode dramatically yet harmlessly, and they can actually play the game with whatever fistful of stratagems they have.
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>>538647480
They accidentally leaked the planned buff a few weeks before they plan to give it to us.
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Ok. Got to run. Justice time.
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>>538646867
should have put them on the bug front instead
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>>538647985
I collect all the samples anyway
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>>538647998
Uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh
It oneshots factory striders, so is like, your fourth or fifth best option for convoys?
If you sit back and don't play the game for like 30 minutes while your friends masturbate for similar amounts of time, they can be used to kill an overship, because their AT is way higher than it probably should be?
It's really really funny to just hold the gun afterwards and play pretend cowboy out of the side of a car?
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>>538647858
>grand total of 9 epoch kills
Wow so fun... zzzzz
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>>538646501
I swear they increased the distance reinforce pods can spawn away from where the becon actually in is the pre-Xbox patch. There have been times where I am solofagging and I'll die on the extraction landing pad and I'll be spawned in so far away that I can't get back in range of the extraction zone before the 20 second timer expires.

Another undocumented change that just ends up fucking with people. These developers are so fucked man, I have never seen anything like this before.
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>>538648420
100%
it's almost impossible to kill my teammates with the hellpod now
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>>538647858
You know the Epoch is just worse than the eruptor for doing this, right?
Or that the recoilless has an explosive setting?
Or that the autocannon has a flak setting?
Or that the AT emplacement exists?
Or that the harpoon gun exists?
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>so many low levels on Crimsica
No wonder this shit is going down
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>>538646487
The eternal Swede always finding ways to do anything except fucking work.
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>>538648521
>RR
boring, no backpack slot
>autocannon
boring, no backpack slot
>AT emplacement
boring, -1 stratagem for something i can do myself
>harpoon gun
cant kill 15 devastators with 1 shot
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>>538647858
This is what AMRtards have to do to mimic a fraction of ACchad power.
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>>538648787
Alright
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>melty shitter
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UUUUOOOOOOHHHHH I LOVE FF POTATOES
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>>538648420
They 100% did.
This was almost assuredly in preparation for the caves, much like how the extraction pelicans have been drunk as fuck for about two months, in preparation for having to use navigation to land instead of much more stable canned landings for extraction points with clear, predetermined surroundings.
Now, instead of being called in on the beacon, the game looks for a spot it is happy with near the beacon, and picks it for you.
Because AH doesn't fucking play their own game, and any time the game makes a decision is worse than any time the player makes one, they never saw the problems with the game throwing you miles outside the map, reinforcing everyone on top of eachother, throwing you on top of a cliff or building the game doesn't want you going up, so refuses to let you cross the cliff barrier to escape, throwing you in the middle of a lake, ect.
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>>538648281
You can use NEATS to strip overship shields and then kill it with silo. But you still need to find the cannon codes after you kill the overship.
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whats going down in /xivg/ that they spam outside their threads now
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>>538648751
>>AT emplacement
>boring, -1 stratagem for something i can do myself
Okay
Destroy a fabricator with your epoch then
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>>538649106
I think most weapons can actually shield strip the overshield. It takes a few clips, but I think pretty much anything will do it. I know for a fact the hmg emplacement and FRV gun will do it, I see people do that to save a shot on the big gun as it is all the time.
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>>538649148
ok
*shoots it twice*
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>>538649114
have you played xiv?
It's a prerequisite of the game to be fucked in the head, I can't imagine how bad the general is
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>>538649376
i have up until the last expansion
been in the thread for a while as well, i know some are fucked in the head but usually the thread was self contained
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How do you respind without sounding angry, anons?
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>>538649514
I enjoyed doing whatever ended me up on there
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>>538649351
You sure you have the ammo for that, champ?
I thought you just blasted a bot drop out of the sky.
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D10, whatever.
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>>538649114
Fellow Steven, what are you doing here?
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>>538649867
yeah i have 12-15 shots before needing to resupply, and then i can resupply 4 times without calling in a resupply beacon if ammo would ever be a problem.
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did anyone watch the patrician tv helldivers stream yesterday?
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Whats the personal order today?
It doable easy?
Not at my computer rn.
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>>538649958
playing helldivers because /mjg/ sucks turbo cock
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>>538650097
But /hdg/ is worse
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>>538650170
You have no idea how bad other generals get
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>>538649956
FVLL.
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>>538650170
This general is relatively pleasant compared to like, 14 and deadlock.
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>>538650056
I only watch Pat ramble artistically about Bethesda games or WoW. I don't see the appeal in watching gameplay.
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>>538650390
Sure, but it's still not good compared to the good ones.
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>>538650020
So that's 2 stratagems for something the AT emplacement does in 1. And also does better and actually contributes to objectives. And also can be readily shared with teammates. And also we all know you're fucking stealing the supplies.
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>>538650471
There are no good generals.
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So what are the other four computers for?
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>September 2025
>the playerbase continues to try and defend 2 planets simultaneously
They never learn
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>>538650471
List the good generals then
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>>538650097
>>538649114
YOURE BOTH NOT EVEN READING THE PAPER THERE IS HUGE HOLES WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AND I CAN TELL YOURE NOT READING IT
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>>538649328
10,000 AP0 same idea as harvester shields
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>caring about the galactic war
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>>538650259
>>538650390
>MH sunrise releases
>go to monster hunter general to see what they think
>they're all making slutty hunters and ERPing with some black guy who's posting pics of his cock
>there was a whole discord for it
Helldivers 2 general is a paradise
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>>538650832
>>538651006
You are right anons, no good generals exist.
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>>538650970
Well the DSS was doing a good job before the direct democratics got their filthy hands on it.
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>>538651068
Isn't it on rails and we only make progress when Joel wants us to
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>>538651068
K, see you on SE invasion, faggot.
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>>538651194
>He hasn't realized AH rigs the DSS vote yet

Tell me you're a newfag without telling me you're a newfag.
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What separates a Chaddiver from a Betadiver?
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>>538651389
Yes, especially now that planetary actions are impossible to coordinate.
Before there was a limited amount of player agency, mostly in doing weird shit unrelated to directives, or the Chinese specifically getting shit done through a combination of bug hive mind and aggressive hacking, but now planetary actions are basically impossible without comically low invasion or resistance levels, and raw number orders have been cheated since forever ago.
Especially since they have decided through fiat that the DSS can't go certain places so you can't just gambit this defense like normal.
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>>538651810
No U
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>one shots a factory strider
Nice.
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>>538651915
the ultimatum on their hip
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>>538650170
>IRC gay ERP vtubers
>no lobbies
>70% of /mjg/ using akagi bot
yeah this place is so much better in comparison like holy shit theres still some awful posts but /mjg/ is unbearable especially during tourneys and leagues
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My dunesfolk boy is going to galcrux
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>>538652017
Nothin' personal, nerd
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>>538652678
This music is so fucking great.
Godbless browns.
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>about to lose gacrux when it was super winnable
>now effort thrown to save it means crimsica goes from safe to in jeopardy
>at this rate, about to lose 7 more planets after losing the bulk 20 from 2 weeks ago
>btw the game is close to 2 years old and people still have no clue how to galactic war, forcing us to be driven off the cliff like lemmings
Ok I’m just taking a break. I get too mad at this shit. It’s like getting mad at the weather. I just can’t control it.
See you next MO.
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>>538650832
Even... Brasch...?
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>>538653017
>Godbless browns.
Be less obvious
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>>538653017
Didn't he also make some tracks for Destiny 2?
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I wish expendables could be put in the backpack slot too.
>carry two EATs
>carry MG and EAT
>carry both kinds of EAT
I think it'd be neat.
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>>538647298
>>538647480
>>538647583
>>538647998
It should really be 50 demo force Faggot shit like the ultimatum a fucking secondary being able to nuke any building was rediculous but this is a stratagem so no excuse for it not being able to do so.

But seriously why are some stratagems flat out weaker than actual weapons? Is there any point to half of them with the coyote, grenade pistol and thermite grenades existing?
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>>538653669
Swigger malice.
I hate europeans.
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>>538653353
Just farm some credits on like phact bay or something, since my swede sense is telling me they're gonna buttfuck farming soon
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terminids damaging passengers in a FRV going 40 kmh isn't very realistic when you think about it
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>>538609586
>>538610368
>make Vitality and Stamina baseline (the boosters are removed)
>Hellpod Space Optimization becomes an individual ship module
>Muscle Enhancement also allows your helldiver to climb higher obstacles (like shipping containers)
>Certain Boosters will get combined when a complimentary one is acquired
>both reinforcement budget boosters are combined into one (Deep Reinforcement)
>Firebomb and Stun Pods are combined (Ballistic Pods)
>Sample Extricator and Sample Scanner will be combined into Scavenger Mission (Always have a Side Mission to extract with samples, each sample extracted gives a tiny amount of xp and requisition slips, Medium units drop .5% common/.1% rare, Large 2.5% common/1% rare, sample drops are uncapped 5% sample pickups will be doubled)
>Dead Sprint also increases running speed
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>>538646167
Honestly, they need to remove the hellpod steering restrictions. Except for the exact space that skyscrapers occupy so players can't get stuck on them or in destroyed ones.
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>>538653669
>But seriously why are some stratagems flat out weaker than actual weapons?
Glazing, toxic positivity, and the fucking meme of a thing being bad being DEMOCRATIC.
Nobody fucking takes orbital smoke or eagle rockets or whatever the fuck because they're bad, nobody is taking them so nobody is complaining about them, and AH doesn't play their own game so they never hear about it, or hear about it vaguely/only see use rates and buff irrelevant aspects of them (orbital smoke getting a demolition force buff for example).
Anybody who complains about a thing being shit is called bad, so everyone just runs the meta shit, which isn't really the meta shit, it's just the shit that actually works, while pretending they don't and downplaying them because Alexus specifically wants your weapons to suck for whatever his masturbation fantasy is, but also doesn't play the game so doesn't know what the good weapons are if nobody talks about them.
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>>538646528
>100% durable wings
Honestly, that's a bit of a nothingburger since the wings are unarmored (AP0), so it never actually comes into effect.
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>>538649956
3/4, 1 dropped mid mission.
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>>538653958
It's very realistic, please consult this chart:
>Doesn't inconvenience or even actively helps the player? Incredibly unrealistic
>Inconveniences the player, perhaps without any way to avoid it? Realistic
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>>538654413
This, combined with most stratagems being "free" so there's no risk of anyone getting upset about their money being stolen by worthless warbonds.
Buff something in a warbond and maybe people buy it.
Buff a stratagem, and you don't see a dime
Especially now that AH seems like they're nearing the cashout phase of the game's life cycle, don't expect any work that doesn't directly lead to you buying something anytime near the future.
They got one gorillion sales from the xbox release, they don't give a fuck anymore.
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>>538651791
>t.
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who gaf
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>50k people cant defend a level 20 invasion with the DSS

broken game.
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>>538646528
My main issue is the endless spawns. Why did they just borrow the leviathan's spawn logic (breaking the leviathans and preventing them from spawning in the process) instead of just going with what has been proven to work for this game?

Have occaisonal "wandering" dragons like we already have occaisonal wandering bile titans or impalers or factory striders that are already spawned in. Have dragons respond to bug breaches by flying in from up in the sky or the map boundary at incredible hihg speeds in place of a bile titan or impaler.

Why put them on an endless 90 second spawn timer?
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>Gacrux is losing while Crimsica is winning despite Gacrux being a lower invasion level and having the DSS supporting
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>>538646528
>Why
Jeet B team put to work on the team didn't want to cut into their vacation time by actually putting in effort.
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>>538654473
100% durable means that most non-AT weapons are useless against it. It's basically the most MAXIMUM of armors because it tricks newbies into thinking they are contributing to taking down the bile titan or whatever with their liberator, when it would take like ten minutes and two resupplies for them to help at all. It's vile.
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lobby... doko...
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it's incredible that one of the main selling points of the game (galactic war) is a complete joke that means nothing solely because of the incompetence and malice of a single employee
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>>538655214
>Why put them on an endless 90 second spawn timer?
Because all of those options you mentioned would require implementation and work, while lifting the leviathan's code let them finish early for the day.
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All brawndivers deploy to Crimsica while all leandivers divert to Gacrux. The leandivers will use their bodies to buy us time and distract the bugs. Their sacrifice will never be forgotten.
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divers decide

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243483653686/76561197999591385
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>>538656026
link the full pic right now or I'm reporting you to a democracy officer
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>>538655850
about as incredible as stratagems releasing as complete jokes because of the incompetence and malice of a single employee
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>tfw mission on Crimsica bugged out so now we have to wait until the auto extract to extract because the terminal is out of bounds
These swedes need less vacations, jesus christ.
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>>538656028
3/4 current divers are strong, brawny, looking for 1 leandiver
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why do sentries do that thing where they completely ignore the alpha commander that's slowly waddling towards them and let it destroy them
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>You can remove ONE of Alexus or Joel
Is this what Sophie's choice felt like?
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>>538656478
Only betas use sentries so Alphas flexing their social status go up and beat the beta turrets knowing they aint going to do shit
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>>538654473
Durability and armor pen are different things.
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>>538656478
saar please understand, alphas are an EoF enemy, coded by ranjeet, he since took too many sips from the ganghes and can't form a sentence anymore therefore we can't make EoF units work quite right.
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>>538656513
alexus easily
couldnt give a rats ass about the stupid ass war.
we can lose it for all i care
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>>538656028
3/4 still
bots
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>>538656513
as much as I want weapons to lose their retarded arbitrary and anti-fun limitations I'd remove Joel so at least the galactic war nerds could be happy instead of in permanent outrage sperging their math and how Joel betrays
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>>538656028
1 more GET IN
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>>538656513
Alexus easily
The war is shit but you can ignore it
Nerfing everything and releasing pre-nerfed trash like the silo or epoch is something you can only endure and hope that an actually good dev fixes
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>>538655761
>>538656590
I honestly keep forgetting how the fuck durable works because people explain it differently every single fucking time.
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>>538656028
i rolled out of bed for this and its full fuck you
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I like the Silo...
It's a 500kg that I can launch at bases from 300+ meters.
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I've never understood how durable damage works. I just keep track of armor penetration requirements.
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>takes 2 supplies from the supply pod
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>>538657212
It has no demo force, so it's not a 500kg
It's more like a ORC you have to aim manually and that can die or a single manually guided spear shot on a 2 and a half minute cooldown
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>>538657212
That WOULD be really cool if I couldn't do the same thing with any AT launcher. The only thing it really has over any of them is how quickly it can cheese a command bunker.
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>>538657460
It doesn't even have the same blast radius as a 500kg too if I'm remembering correctly.
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>>538657460
I regularly land 30+ kills per use, and I've wiped entire large bot bases with it if I can get the right angle.
The ONLY objectives it cannot pop are jammers and detectors on the bot front abd the uber-pilon on the squid front.
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>99.99% charge railgun shots is the standard shot for damage calculations
lmao
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>>538657601
Correct. It's larger.
The 500kg has 25m and the silo has 35m.
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>>538657601
they do have the same radius but the solo silo gives up 10 demo force for much more damage and (currently unneeded) excessive penetration compared to 500kg
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>>538657709
you rike?
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>>538657212
meh it's more like if one of those shitty green standard explosive SEAF arty rounds went 300 meters. I mean sure I'd prefer it to having nothing at all but a HYE or mini nuke that goes 300m would be twice or five times as much fun respectively.
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>>538657097
It takes the first damage number and reduces it by the durable percentage amount, then adds the same percentage from the second number. Since AT weapons EAT have the same damage and durable damage, it basically means it's AT armor that can take chip damage from non-AT weapons.
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>>538657709
>he doesn't have railgun macro
NGMI in competetive Helldivers 2
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>>538657097
Alright
Every single part of every single enemy has a durable stat ranging from 0 to 100.
Every single damage dealing weapon in the game has a durable damage stat, in addition to their normal damage.
When a weapon hits a target, their durable stat is used as a ratio. The number given for durable is the % of your damage that will be determined by your weapons durable damage stat.

If a weapon deals 100 damage, and 20 durable damage, and you shoot a target with 75 durability, then assuming all other modifiers are controlled, the ratio means you deal 75% of your durable damage, and 25% of your normal damage.
25% of 100 is 25.
75% of 20 is 15.
Your final damage dealt is thus 40.

If you shoot a target with 50 durable, with the same weapon, you will deal 50% of your normal 100, that's 50, and 50% of your durable 20, that's 10, for 60 damage total.

Some parts will have their durable stat reduced as they take damage and progress through destruction states, some don't.
There's no way to see either the durable damage a weapon deals, or the durable stat of enemy parts, in game. Use a wiki.
Durable damage is, crucially, affected by every single modifier a weapon is normally subjected to, such as the 35% damage penalty for meeting an armor class, damage falloff from range, or any specific resistances a particular enemy or part has. The only broad exception is explosives, which USUALLY completely ignore durability as a stat (though, the projectile itself still interacts). This is broadly why explosives have only gotten better as the game has gone on, because someone has become obsessed with slapping massive durability values on parts of enemies, that explosives just ignore.
This is ALSO part of why light pen weapons are so dogshit. Light pen weapons typically have absolutely ass durable damage, and the "unarmored" parts of shit like bile titans hover at or around 100 durability.
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>>538657601
>>538657771
You're both wrong, it's the exact same radius. The only difference is the damage, AP, and demo force.
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>>538658240
>he needs a macro
Just count in your head until you master the timing like the rest of us.
It has the exact same timing as the Epoch if you want to practice on a weapon with more obvious visual/audio cues.
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>>538657528
the only practical time difference between it and a spear is the lock on period, except you don't have a underground silo made of fucking straw that blows up in a stiff breeze
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>>538649956
GGs to the science team.
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>>538658423
The silo technically has a bigger radius, but the radius of the 500 can be improved to the same from ship techs.
It's like how the flamethrower has rhe same base damage as the torcher and Crisper, but gets the ship tech buff to go higher
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>>538658432
>>538658240
no thanks I'll just use EAT for less effort and more effectiveness
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>>538653669
well said. for this item, it was between filling the role of a niche jammer/detector popper and an extremely costly + gimmicky heavy remover that won't ever make a difference. we got the latter. I feel every mission I'm in gets saturated with very effective anti-heavy shit - 500kg, barrages, thermites, all AT flavors - so I'm not spending a slot for something that does the same trick with a novelty touch. RRbro will do just fine with that fagstrider thanks.
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RR SAMA, SAVE ME!
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>>538658434
Does the spear reliably destroy bunkers in a single rocket? It has been a very long time since I've used it.
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>>538657097
And then, because people sometimes confuse them.
Demolition force is completely unrelated to durable damage.
Demolition force is a property that applies to objects and building, that simply destroys them if they are hit by something with Demolition Force above what their resistance is, irrespective of damage dealt. All true explosives have some, but may not have enough for particular targets. You can't destroy a bot gunship tower with any number of grenades, for example.
Some things have a mix of Demolition force, and hp/armor, where overcoming the demo force will kill them instantly regardless of damage dealt, but they can also be destroyed by enough damage of a particular armor class, like a normal enemy.
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>>538659043
>epoch when faced with enemy tank armor
>shears it off effortlessly and obliterates the internals with large plasma explosions
>epoch when faced with a standard metal fence
>pic rel
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>>538659043
you're doing it wrong, you're supposed to use the blast to propel your body into the fence
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>>538659116
Not quite reliably, sometimes it takes 2. Sometimes you need to chew through the outer armor layer if the spear hits a bad spot.
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>>538659043
*blocks your path*
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>>538659043
I was wondering what all that was about
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>>538659043
What an absolute cuckold of a weapon. I'm convinced the fags taking Epoch are the same fags using Plasma Punisher.
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How's the speargun matchup against... chainlink fences...
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>>538659490
breaks bugholes so it should break fences
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>>538659386
AAAAAAIIIIIIIII SAVE ME GAS GRENADE, SAVE ME ORBITAL SMOKE
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Are illuminate spawns bugged right now?
I've bene trying to get leviathans to spawn 3 times in a row now on missions with leviathan modifier, but none of them spawn.
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>>538659472
Wtf dont call me out like this the plasma punisher works fine
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>>538659596
i just dropped on a world to try test the rocket on them and havent seen one in 15 minutes on this mission that has the modifier
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>>538659472
i've only noticed europeans having a problem with it. burgers generally don't have this many complaints about it
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>>538659360
Thats what I thought i remembered. That the outer wall can sometimes take the blast. But the missile silo should always be hitting the roof.
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>>538659596
Dragons broke leviathans because they touch the same code.
We would fix it, but it's dinner time
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>>538659596
>>538659749
Leviathans haven't been spawning since the last patch. It is suspected that because they likely just used the same code to spawn the dragon roaches as they do leviathans, they have somehow bugged out the leviathans from spawming.

Just a hunch but maybe the code is trying to spawn a dragon roach instead of a leviathan hit because you are fighting squids, nothing ends up spawning.
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>>538659979
ill be honest while i havent been looking closely i feel like i wouldve seen mroe posts about this but i guess a 2% faction really has no posters
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>>538659321
>Fence: "My power level IS MAXIMUM!"
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>>538659749
Et tu, Anon-sama?
I want to try the fire EATs on them, same as the solo silo, but those fuckers refuse to spawn at all.
>>538659903
I wouldnt be surprised if the dragonroaches are somehow related to the leviathans missing.
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So this MO is another bust, huh? Were losing a level 20 invasion.
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>his can be used to dispatch moving targets, particularly aerial ones, such as the Leviathan
>wiki unironically suggests using 4 solo silos (10 (ten) minutes cooldown) to kill something that spawns every 2 minutes
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>>538659804
The silo should do it just by size of the explosion alone, regardless of if it hits a wall, a turret, or a really lost devastator on top of it.
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>>538659654
>Plasma Punisher works fine
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>>538660225
the ability of this community to cope and kowtow is truly something else
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>>538660314
I shoot things and they die, let me guess you need more?
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>>538660207
planet sucks, bugs can have it for all I care
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>>538659654
plas punisher on diggers i kind of goated since it doesnt bounce like the crossbow and is quite spammable. sucks giga dick at killing alphas and loses bug hole closing but odds are you have spearguns or emancipator anons to clear bugholes anyways
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>>538660225
clearly everybody has to bring a silo!
that's way more efficient than one teamloaded RR and a resupply!
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>>538660207
While defeating a level 50 invasion.
Also, nice keyboard, looks like mine.
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>>538660436
Apathy is how they win.
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>>538660174
No, they actually are the reason, they're using the code for how leviathans spawn, and swede jank means instead of copying the code and editing it, they literally just changed the code to allow dragons to spawn with it, not really grasping that they made it not grab leviathans anymore. Instead it looks to grab a dragonroach, can't find one in the illuminate spawn table, obviously, so shrugs and does nothing.
And nobody plays illuminate, or will ever complain about leviathans being gone, and nobody at AH actually plays the game, so it may well take MONTHS for them to realize this.
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>>538660075
I didn't notice it until after the patch they released on the release day of dust devils, because I wanted to test out the missile silo on a leviathan and could not find one.

Theres a chance they could have been bugged out by the patch prior to that but I didnt play squids at all during that time. I dont think I'd fought squids since that "kill leviathans" MO happened.
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>>538660434
Yes I need it to do its advertised damage.
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>>538660207
I have bugger fatigue

>>538660470
>While defeating a level 50 invasion.
Anon...
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>>538660462
I use the talon with the plasma punisher, one shot to stun them then switching to your pistol and blowing off the head is typically enough damage for them to not enter berserker mode and try and chop your dick off
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>>538660493
no, invading shitnigger bog planets is how they win
I'm still fucking burnt out from that retarded bore rock planet
I wish it got niggerraped instead of meridia, at least I didn't have to repeatedly go to the shittiest biome in the entire game just because joel thinks it's so fucking funny to make jurassic park 2 electric boogaloo
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>devs realize that squids are an abject failure
>quietly remove them from the game one enemy at a time
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>>538659654
Not only does it stagger Harvesters if you're playing Illuminate but the AoE is so large you can keep an entire group of bots staggered and force them into a clump
point-blank shots do NOT autokill you and it can be used to flip the FRV with minimal tire-popping risk
it's an absurdly great weapon in the right hands
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>>538660746
Fleshmobs next please!
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>>538660874
The Illuminate...
Are healing...
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Fought some regular bugs on terrek
I am mindbroken by oshaune, it just doesn't compare in terms of fun
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>>538660995
Fight bots and you will feel the same way. The game is simply too easy outside of Oshaune.
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>>538660508
source: my ass
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i'm waiting for a lobby between all the manchildren crying about and eating up what OhDough pulls out of his anal asshole btw
chop chop
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I don't like the dragon roach. It feels too much like a forced reinforcement hit, mostly because you cant actually use cover to block the bile during hover mode, and even hitting it with a commando rocket doesn't get it to break off
the attack.

>just use fire armor
Being forced into one armor which COMPLETELY trivialises the threat also feels wrong. It's like if every ranged attack the illuminates had was arc damage and the only way to die was getting melee
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>>538661449
>Salamander Armour, Killzone Armourm Dust devil armour, Medic armour
There's plenty of choice for tank or resist the d-roach.
The only thing it needs to be fixed is the actual hitbox of the fire, nothing else.
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>>538659472
this is true.
>t. uses epoch to solo bots10 and uses plaspun to solo cavebugs10
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>>538661449
invisible fire and inconsistent damage is my jam
>strafes me i lose 15-25% of my HP and get lit on fire
>dive
>survive
>pay stim tax
>it does the exact same strafe again a minute later
>i fucking die at full HP in sub .5 seconds
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>>538661594
Why do you bring up medic armor? The hover spit kills you through stims.
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>>538661692
What? I almost always use medium medic armour and it never happened to me and i had plenty of d-roaches vomiting on me, because my main weapon for dealing with them is the ultimatum
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>>538661104
I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason, though.
After all, them changing the Purifier so its charge also increases damage caused the Quasar's charge to break.
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>>538661692
TELL ME you aren't running light armor for this shit
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>>538661875
This is a safe for work board and he was a shabbos Squid.
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>>538661875
Who?
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>>538661875
>prove me wro-ACK
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>>538661949
>>538661969
>>538662008
Very organic posts
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>>538661883
I was originally using light fortified but swapped to medium gunslinger. The medic armor doesnt make the stim heal any stronger so it will still obliterate you with the hover attack.
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>>538661875
>"And that's why Super Earth needs to nuke Cyberstan and kill every bot-ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK"
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THERE IS A LOBBY!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243488775939/76561198120804312
D10, democracy decides.
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Yeah after what just happened there's no way we're not getting a human rebel faction
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which planet has the boss?
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>>538661875
Grok, is this true?
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>>538646756
>>538647475
>>538647652
can confirm
i reluctantly played with them for the past week hoping one might spawn in some SC (they never did) but for the most part they all performed really well and had good teamwork, a few even spoke english

they can still fuck off in pvp games though
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>>538662504
the big boss?
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>>538662612
pookie?
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>>538662175
3/4
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WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU ALL SEE? WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP REPLYING TO SOME DELETED POST?
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>>538662778
Literal furry porn.
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>>538662778
burgers getting their freedumbs
>be american
>get shot
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>>538662778
guy became a Martyr live on TV
trump is probably gonna get a third term from this
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>>538662778
The presidential onahole of Super Earth just got shot on live TV
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>>538662778
Illuminate First talking head Charlington Kirk has been assassinated.
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>>538662778
>>>/pol/
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>>538662901
>>538662909
>>538662998
I hate how a helldivers thread on 4chan of all fucking places is how I first find out about this.
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HOLY SHIT THEY SHOT CORETTA KELLY
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>>538663047
I still don't know who he is or why should I care
IDK why Americans schizo over this so hard, it's not like anyone important got shot
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>>538662901
>>538662909
>>538662998
finally, the main Illuminate pawn has been shot.
Hope the je- the illuminate bootlicker dies and rots in hell
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>>538663365
BASED
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>>538663185
AN ILLUMINATE PLASMA BOLT JUST FLEW PAST MY HEAD
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>>538662759
Still 3/4, stop shitposting and play the fucking game already.
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Watching the silo do circles around a dragonroach is some Looney Tunes shit.
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>>538663317
they are basically like the voteless, controlled by a stronger alien force (tje jilluminates) that decide everything in their lives.
The only difference is that they are sentient so when an illuminate bootlicker that kissed the plasma wall gets killed it's a win, and i totally understand them
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>>538663583
It's pretty funny yea
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>>538663317
It sets a dangerous precedence, thats why they care.
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>>538663583
>shoot Spear at dragonroach
>the fucker starts flying in a tight circle for a solid minute, dodging fucking everything
What the fuck
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sex with female terminids
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>>538663752
Don't like 70 of you shoot eachother at school every day?
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>>538663752
Didn't you guys shoot at presidential candidate not so long ago
Also political assasinations happen, idk how is that a precedent
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I just realized but they fixed the audio bug related to eagles where the sound cuts out and freezes the game the longer you play!!!
YAYYY!!!!!!
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>>538663954
It because it shows theyre willing to shoot anyone "not important" for wrongthink.
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>>538663913
>tfw no ESL bugwife
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>>538664036
I don't think you understand what "precedent" means lol
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>>538663954
They are happening more often is all, every time it does happen there are a lot of people saying they want more.
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>>538664110
You think this wont embolden people further? Youre delusional.
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>>538663967
You must be getting lucky. I was still having that issue last night.
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>>538662175
JOIN 3/4
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hdg doesnt play helldivers 2
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>>538664036
honestly, he's much more of a traitor than a "wrong-thinker"
and traitors must face the wall
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>>538662175
3/4
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>Arrowhead hired Fatshark's ex technical director in April
Ah, that explains things.
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libruls need to Iower the difficuIty
they cant even dome a guy properly.
reprimand spread looking ass
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>>538664419
What does it explain exactly?
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>>538664582
got his jugular vein
he's probably dead
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>>538664582
That shot placement is pretty damn lethal.
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>>538664036
>they
>wrongthink
Anon there's no "they". This is retards shooting other retards. This isn't some big government conspiracy. Money and control of money is still in THEIR hands they have no reason to start cracking down on whatever you think "wrongthink" is. All your political identities and alignments have always been a distraction.
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>>538662175
Failed to join.
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>>538664582
Turns out the guy who was arrested was innocent and the assassin is still at large. I hope the Super Police get him before he escapes back to Cyberstan.
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>>538664761
>He thinks I'm using "they" in code
No, Im using it by the way its defined in the dictionary.
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>>538663945
Terminid attacks happen, it's an unfortunate cost of the high power demands of Democracy. We can't just implement stricter terminid control plans because of a few bad apples. It would lower efficiency of our E-710 extraction facilities, and we can't afford even a 2% reduction in output.
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>>538658356
>This is ALSO part of why light pen weapons are so dogshit. Light pen weapons typically have absolutely ass durable damage, and the "unarmored" parts of shit like bile titans hover at or around 100 durability.
I hate this because logically light pen weapons should be things like hollow points that should absolutely fuck over anything that they can pen. Light pen weapons having very high durable damage relative to their medium pen peers would give them a solid role on the battlefield. But Alexus thinks that primary weapons are supposed to suck, and that light pen are the suckiest of all.
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>>538662175
FVLL
>>538664771
Rananon, if that's you then I'm sorry to say but another anon spooked your spot the second after you crashed.
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>>538664096
she's learning
>>538662901
>>538663317
>>538663752
i don't think the deranged lefty alphabet groups are ready for the genie they're unbottling
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>>538664927
That wasn't me but it's all good i'll just wait for the next one
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>>538664952
just as much a chance the shooter was a deranged righty, charlie kirk is (was?) a jew cocksucking traitor
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>>538659116
The commando reliable destroys bunkers with one call down.
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>>538662175
>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243488775939/76561198120804312
liars
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>>538664861
Context is also important not just the dictionary.
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>>538664886
I can't wait for when we get chaff enemies with AP4 armour and AP3 "squishy" parts (120% durable too)
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>bf and I play on Steam only
>Try to join his game
>Game tells me I need to turn on crossplay to join his lobby
>He can join mine just fine
>He also has crossplay turned off
This fucking game
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>>538665095
shooter looked like an old faceberg boomer though so odds are that if he was a righty he'd be right there slurping kirk's cock 24/7
it's possible but more likely not
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>>538664795
>Act like you did it to buy the guy who actually did more time to escape by distracting law enforcement
This is what it's like to be the guy getting a free walk to objectives, because of the three brave men getting endlessly buttfucked by reinforcements, isn't it?
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>>538659490
Total fence obliterating.
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>>538665196
Youre trying to put words in my mouth.
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>>538665302
YWNBAW
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>>538656303
>lets make it get destroyed. that's fun to play around right? :3
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>>538664952
Eeeeh
Nah?
Like, every time I see anything it's either a lefts killing rights, or a right trying to kill lefts, then getting killed by lefts during. Substitute getting the shit beaten out of them as you like.
Not like it matters to me which of you kills eachother on a given day, though.
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>>538665095
if i was a righty in the Super Earth lore, right now that illuminate-squidcock-sucking fuckface would be one of the first in my headcanon hypothetical hitlist. If you face the plasma wall you should expect to face the wall
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>>538665494
What if he's gay?
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>>538655850
Im still of the mind the Galactic War is just Joels power fantasy because he was too shit to play stellaris
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lobby doko
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>>538665679
Im a biofem
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>>538663843
Swiggers never heard of proportional navigation.
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>>538665890
>pic or it didn't happen
>shoe on head
>show tummy
this or tranny. no women play the Succesful Arrowhead Game Helldivers 2™
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>>538665880
We're mourning the dead.
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>>538665965
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>>538665960
stop posting abstract merchants
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>>538656303
https://streamable.com/fbi4n0

>aw cool I finally hit the dra-
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D10
Whatever

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243492149921/76561197999417031
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>>538665965
Is that....
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>>538666372
>>538666372
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D10, Crimsica
We're finishing this fight or something
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>>538665960
I also thought that this was a merchant
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>>538666372
3/4
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>>538666324
This is like dropping a 500kg or hellbomb in a bot outpost then watching a war strider walk out with its weapons blown off chicken jockey style
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>>538666540
3/4 but we're going now
join!!!
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The gas gun is a long gassy fart.
The harpoon is when you fart on leather and it ricochets and hurts you
The fart dog is self-explanatory
The fart grenade is when you think its a normal fart but you end up shitting your pants
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Red Dot R-63CS is good at killing Stalkers.
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>>538666372
>railcannon
why?
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>>538666937
>>538666540
they lied to me... again...
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Just in case you were wondering, the Arc Dog does indeed one shot through Killzone light armor.
What the fuck is the point?
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>>538667364
it one shots through all arc armor besides the 90% arc armor
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>>538667284
because killing one heavy every couple of minutes on d10 is absolutely terrible
it has a bit of a niche now for killing dragon roaches but it's still shit
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>>538667461
Does it actually oneshot them? I might actually take it if that's the case.
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>>538667421
Someone told me the heavy dust devils amor lets you survive.
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>>538667461
>>538667284
>>538666372
Orbital napalm is good, but is misused enough to belong on that list. I wish that the fucks would stop wasting it on the mega nest and accomplish nothing other than buy time for more bile titans to leave the BT hole.
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YOU SET THE GAME TO PRIVATE I CANT REJOIN AHHHHHHHHH
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>>538666372
>orbital napalm is bad
Idk man just throw it on a bug breach and walk away.
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>>538666324
if they upped the direct damage to something stupid like 6000 so it one shot bile titans it would be a better rail cannon than just a shitty 500
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>>538666998
Orbital gas strike is walking past a cute girl and getting cropdusted.
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>>538667668
Quickplayed onto d10 and had all three others take turns tossing their orbital napalm onto every objective or nest while we just stood there waiting it out. All three in a row right as the last ended. At least one friendly fire death each time. Worst part is that it took so long by the time we got to the next objective it would be off cooldown again. Made me regret not taking the eagle airstrike to pop holes at range while we waited.
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>>538667548
Yeah, but especially on the new planet, they sometimes juke the missiles because their own pathing is bugging the fuck out as they make fuking 6000g, perfectly reverse velocity turns, and now you're waiting for fucking ever for another shot.
They can do it to spear and wasp shots too, but those you have extras, so it juking one isn't THAT bad
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>>538658356
>This is ALSO part of why light pen weapons are so dogshit. Light pen weapons typically have absolutely ass durable damage, and the "unarmored" parts of shit like bile titans hover at or around 100 durability.
counterpoint: why the fuck are you shooting bile titans with your liberator?
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>>538668062
The trick, as I'm sure you're aware, is to call down napalm where you aren't going to be. Like when that patrol opens up a bug breach behind the party outside the mega nest. Lock down the breach with napalm and then push into the nest on foot.
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ggs and thanks for the SC
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>>538668268
Bile titans have soft weak points. They're not vital points, but they're soft. Or they would be if they weren't 300% durable
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>>538667461
>it has a bit of a niche now for killing dragon roaches but it's still shit
>3 minute cooldown
>dragonroaches tend to spawn around the same time as it goes off cooldown most of the time
eh, at least it has a pretty good niche now. better to down it in one railcannon than to deal with its retarded hp values on every part except the head
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>>538668268
Counter-counterpoint: why the fuck should I not be able to shoot at bile titans with my liberator?
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War striders are the worst enemy in the game and they need to be removed.

You can't convince me otherwise.
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But you've always been able to shoot at bile titans with your liberator...
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>>538667553
As someone who uses it
Usually no.
SOMETIMES it does, but very inconsistently, in a way I'm not certain is really the armor doing anything, as opposed to the arc weapons just behaving strangely sometimes.
What it DOES do, with vit booster, is let you barely survive either tesla tower. You'll die to a headshot or chest cripple, or the slightest bit of chip beforehand, but you will survive the bolt if you're topped off.
Under perfect, laboratory conditions, the heavy dune set will more consistently help you barely survive an arc thrower, assuming you have vitality booster AND experimental infusion's damage reduction going, but at that point, it's pointless, and STILL isn't perfectly consistent, sometimes you just die anyways, possibly due to headshots, possibly due to multiple hits, possibly due to Swedish black magic swallowing your soul. The blitzer still fucks you anywhere but the fringe of the cone.
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Solo Silo is actually great on bots
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Scavengers are the worst enemy in the game and they need to be removed

You can't convince me otherwise.
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>Bile Titan dies
>it's flailing leg decapitates me
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>>538668268
>why the fuck are you shooting bile titans with your liberator?
I'm not, because light pen weapons are trash.
However, remember this fact any time someone says light pen weapons are fine, because bile titans have an unarmored spot.
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>>538668714
Malicious swede code
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>people actually give a shit about the blatantly rigged galactic war
Not sure if it's autism or just straight up mental retardation.
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>>538668415
Don't forget that once you destroy the green sac, the stuff underneath is medium pen :)
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>>538668896
>bugchaser pretending they dont care about the galactic war when theyre getting ass raped
clockwork
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>>538668972
Oh I'm aware. It's foolish to use light pen weapons while Alexus is still in charge of putting fuck huge durability on everything
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>>538668896
I saw people online bitch about the Samples MO for Oshaune and how helldivers are not farming samples in D6/D5 as if we were ever going to complete it in the first place.
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>>538669127
>its da bugfags
Oh wow, it was mental illness all along.
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>>538656513
Joel. I am not a shitter who complains about tools. However the MO is unfettered bullshit and Joel needs a nut tap for it out of principle.



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