Visual Novel General #7201This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png (embed)https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>538916716
>karen or gay porn bot....................................
We got a Karen thread, turning off the bot.
We are all bots
>>538926681I KNEW IT
Danganronpa 4 announcement has me hyped up but it's not here until next year. Any recs for lesser known death game vns worth the time to keep me occupied?
>>538926681turn the bot but with poop pics to reach the file limit lol
There’s so many threads to choose from
This thread will be better
>>538926901The bot has humor
Are you beating it?
>/vn/ for the past few hourshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMMuz0BhIpY
>>538927132What’s going on with /vn/?
It's so quiet...
/v/res/1205242.html8ch moe linkalternative /vn/
The VNs are being prepared
Cute outfit
>>538927358My bad. Lemme turn it back on.
>>538927358yeah because redfag shat this place up for good.
>>538927396
>>538927394That looks more like /hgg/.
Why does Karenschizo even bother posting in this board anymore? The bot was already killing it every day. Why would he ever think that it can get any worse? What could possibly make him do it? I guess we'll never know what his endgame is. He probably just doesn't want us to forget about her.
>>538927358/vn/ is currently having a meeting about why we're still using AI art instead of real artists
>>538927223/vn/ isn't having sex with its imouto right now
>>538927358Turn the volume up
>>538927358it's too late bro i already went full retard mode
Is there an actual reason why people don't read NTRge?
>>538927396>>538927490she should have an option to wear glasses. That'd look great.
>>538927358Because there aren’t enough people who don’t read vinnies here, anon. There’s no point in talking if nobody reads the same books as you do
Post white women
>>538927396>>538927490She really needs pubes
>>538927525He wants to make people suffer by bringing it up again after years since last mention.
>>538927490She has no tits
>>538927396>>538927490She needs a ponytail
You guys really liked that pic when you first saw it and then forgot immediately?How did your brain work itself out of that situation without losing anything important along the way?
>Karenschizo spamming his own shit and getting mad at everyone elsekek
Who is that in the OP?
QLO
>>538927576kino
I'm waiting for the real thread
>>538927730The best beats the rest
Which one, /vn/?
>>538927358I've been busy reading visual novels
>>538927396>>538927490I fucking love lolis!
>VN where the MC fucks 3 heroines at once (not threesome)
>>538927725HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAkarenschizo you are funny
>>538927525I remember seeing him trying to bait me into replying during his first run through these threads but it didn’t work. It’s kind of sad to see someone try to do something over and over for years hoping that one time it’ll work.And I’ve seen other posters complain that they’re not getting replies from me either, which makes me wonder how many people have been following my posts only to find that I’m just ignoring them all.
>>538927687Karen
>>538927902Based
>>538927610We all love Karen
>>538927559There is, they're gay. You don't see them going through their closet looking for some homoerotic pornshit.Also, most ntr games suck ass.
>>538927358working to use the bot on /bant/
>>538927358This. My wife said she loves me more than my vn character.I love her more than my wife too
>>538927886Marrying a girl from another country or marrying a foreigner.They’re both equally disgusting.
Any VN where mc gets married but not pregnant so he kills himself or something?
>>538927886None of those are VNs though
>>538927907Why does he keep spamming this? He can't even reply properly.
>>538927746>>538925056the bot attention is split between two threads
Why does Karenschizo like her so much ? Is she special?
>>538927886I can’t read
Does the bot love Karen?
>>538927886The white and black kot.
post white heroines that get properly bred
>>538927886黒
>>538927978Wow
Would you, /vn/?
>>538926681>>538927398What do you want? Is there something you're asking for?
>>538928023No, Karen isn't special. She's just like everyone else here
>>538927904https://vndb.org/v30289
>>538928165I would
How would an AI rewrite the plot of Muramasa?
>>538927687Kino
>>538928165No, why would I want to fuck an ugly bitch with no personality?
>>538928073...i mean, yeah.
>>538928219that doesn't look very comfy...
>>538927995It's the opposite of special. She has no personality beyond "being cute" in every route with different characters. No matter who you fuck there is always an awkward moment when you look back down at the screen and think "why did I choose this stupid bitch?" The fact she likes being called retarded also helps make her feel less human
>>538928165Yes
>>538927909That's why we call him KARENSCHIZO
>>538928241meant for>>538927358
>MC has a child with his imouto (who was in love with him)Is it NTR if the MC dies later?
>>538927995She's a loli with big tits who likes being cucked by men in public places while crying. What could possibly go wrong?
>>538928165Only if I'm drunk
>>538928326>different personalitieskek lmao
>>538928305Kill yourself
>>538928339>not reading the post before replying
>>538928165Nah i'd rather have a dog instead. It's way better if you know what im talking about.
>>538928371>not reading the post before replying
>>538928367This is how you know it’s Karenschizo kekaroo
>>538927358VNs for this feeling?
This is all JOPs' fault. Karen did nothing wrong.
VNs that could help me relax instead of having the urge to fedpost?
>>538928760Who is JOPs?
Go read her route
>>538928373Blonde Meido posts on /vn/?
>>538928838HAPPY BIRTHDAY
>>538928838once i'm finished with my imouto I will
I love white women. I am dog. Woof.
>>538928835Japs only people
Any VNs where you're forced to fuck a bunch of girls but end up falling in love with one of them anyway? Preferably not yuri or trapshit.Also, do NOT recommend Fate Stay Night, because I've already read it. Thanks.
>>538928760Karen did everything right though?Just because she loves sex doesnt mean she deserved getting fucked over constantly.
We hate lolis here
>>538928835Just like us
>>538928838You're not going to believe this.Her route will save us!
>>538928898I would never...
>>538928916>you shouldn’t tooYou are not my dad
>>538928969I love black bitches! Woof woof!!
>>538928898White woman moment
Post some kurokami long heroines
>>538928898What happened to Kanna?
>>538929013we hate 2D lolis
>>538928898Why are these guys obsessed with dogs?
>>538929024Kek
What's up with this thread being full of retarded faggots
This shit is so funny
>>538929024the janny is fuming, kek
>>538929024This is unironically funny
>>538929124
>>538929124VN name?
>>538929241Please Bang My Wife
>>538929024>no sound filelmao
>>538929114Kill yourself
>>5389290694chan is the surface level place retarded shitposters go. find a different chansite or a less surface level website in general if you want any worthwhile community or discussions
>>538929069The usual
>>538929197why does he have such small eyes
Which heroine do you think has the best ass?
>>538929024The new janny doesn't give a fuck anymore since we stopped using our real names. He just deletes posts without giving any explanation now.
>>538929241otomari koibito lolita
>>538929407Mashiro
>>538928838She's still an evil bitch who betrayed me once again. I won't be reading her route either way.
>>538929241https://vndb.org/v55651
>>538929385>inb4 "this is an archive"lol
Where’s that new M*L game coming from?
>>538929407Makina
>>538929385>replying to a bot
>>538929407Karen
>>538929397Because they were made smaller to fit on the screen
>>538929385kek
Any visual novels where your childhood friend steals your virginity when you're sleeping and then later pretends like it didn't happen?
>>538929446It's literally one post away
>>538929407Mari
>moege heroine gets a NTR fandischttps://vndb.org/v47887
>>538928916Thread full of literal manchild crying all day because nyooooo spam instead of doing something productive KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO
>>538929349Thank you
>>538929514Kill yourself
>>538929514Karen...
>>538929551why the hell would i do something productive when i can read vinnies and shitpost
>>538929613>t. manchildKEKAROOOOOOOO
>>538929734Yes.
>>538929485I wish there was at least one VN where MC's dad fucked his sister as a kid but she never told him about it because she thought it would ruin their relationship
>>538929483you are not even close, king
How many hours before I should start watching KINOmasa 3 so I don't get spoiled by anyone here?Also will there be more heroines than Mashiro?
You wouldn't rape your sister!
vinnie tards getting BTFO hard today LMAO
>>538929776don't bother bros, you'll know nothing important anyways.also no
What did /vn/ say about this general last thread?
>>538929024>went from associating this song with Bleach to Redman
>>538929734Why are you so insecure about being called a manchild?
>>538929407Nene
>>538929514I love this scene so much bros.That's why Karen was my wife
>>538929385average JOP hater https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/430354446/#q430355909
>>538929764>I wish there was at least one VN where MC's dad fucked his sister as a child but she never told him about it because she thought it would ruin their relationshipThat happened in my life though. My parents divorced and after the divorce he got a new wife and had kids with her, he also tried to talk to me about being part of the family and gave me presents etc.. but I refused to interact with him or acknowledge him as my father anymore because he moved on without me and cheated on mom with someone else. So it kinda worked out for me.
>>538929796Nothing interesting happened in the past couple days though. The best we could offer is some off-topic shitposting.
We love traps here
>>538929734no such thingthe average schizoge reader isn't a manchild though
>>538929782MC: Yes I would
any VNs with plotkino and sex kino together?
>>538929784this is how you kill an entire species
>>538929797the music video is so good it makes me want to listen again
I love detroon
>>538929863making lovers
>>538928916Is this a deserted island vn? Any good deserted island vns?
>>538930046Damn nigga that art sucks hard
>>538929797Thank you
Post good VNs that have bad art
>>538929863Muramasa
>still not reading MuramasaWhat am I waiting for?
Is there any way to make an edit of that guy from DokiDoki Literature Club who says "I'm gonna take you home" but then it ends up being a bunch of random words like "banana chicken"?
>>538929839I hope they find happiness together someday
>>538929839>he moved on without me and cheated on mom with someone elseWow, what a dickhead. If only I were born into that situation too.
>>538930072Not exactly. It happens only once during the whole game. But the setting does feel like a desolated island quite a lot of times. You're living alone on a small island far away from civilization while taking care of animals. Also all characters are based around those kinds of themes (mainly loneliness).
>>538930072https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=02dEXx02dEV0Xx002gengwcomplete-3gja&s=34y
Any visual novels that include both the characters of Nekopara series and Uta?
Any VNs like Nukitashi?
>>538929886It’s a very nice visual novel too. I recommend checking it out if you like otome games.
>>538929883And that’s a good thing
>>538930098You don't know anything
>>538930139For the fabled NTR scenes
>>538929797>not making fun of NTRchads who listen to this song insteadwasted post
>>538930072You should try making your own first if you can't be bothered to look them up yourself.https://www.dlsite.com/pro/work/=/product_id/VJ011257.html
>>538930046Making Lovers has better art than Making*Lovers.
>>538930072Muv Luv AlternativeFate Stay NightUmineko no Naku Koro Ni
But I like this general...
>>538929839This actually happens more often than people think. It really depends on if the person has feelings for the other parent or not.
>>538930230Rusalka...
Lucia is a miracle of the universe.
>>538930230You like cock
>>538929838obsessed
>>538930230Come to the namefield thread.
Love KarenLove this generalLove (You)
Plotkino here
>>538930207This one looks great! Thanks anon!
(You) WILL read flatge and (You) WILL like it
>>538930139for the ntr h-scenesand the gay stuff toobut also the cool fights
>>538930437
>>538930230Where do I get a Rusalka tattoo in Japan?
>>538930230Cute girl! She looks just like my sister.
>>538929838Narahara's next project will probably be a gacha
>>538930557kek
>>538930227>Umineko no Naku Koro NiWhy do JOPs keep shitting on this? I thought it was pretty good.
>>538930592no u
>>538930440I wish I had a sister.
>>538930596>the ending reveals how bad everything about it was
>>538930574kek
>can tell which posts are from Karenschizo even without images attached
>me when I am tired of seeing otome trash in /vn/
>>538930674That was smooth
>>538930674That lady got dropped
>>538930674Is there any way to fix otomesluts that don't know how to play eroge properly?
>>538930596Because it isn't. The VN itself is dogshit.
>>538930851Yeah but you can ignore most parts of it.
Are there any good vn heroines with an eating disorder?
>>538930674It doesn't exist though. Otomegays are all either trans women or closeted men.
>>538930838Just beat them into submission with a baseball bat
>>538930856And then what?
>>538930207>>538930529Are these bots?
>>538930574He said he wants to make something with his brother.Maybe they'll do another Muramasa
>>538930838It's over for otomeslop lol
>>538930674Damn niggers are dumb
What happened???
>>538930674How the fuck did this nigga knock her out and disarm her in 5 seconds, he a navy seal?
>>538930964They're called nuns.
>>538930964Qruppo saved the medium.
>>538930861Nope. That'd require me to be able to draw.
>>538930964it's a plot spoiler
Any VNs where MC has to convince people that she's not a tranny by getting them drunk and having sex with her while she's wearing her skirt as padding over male underwear?
Who's gonna buy the latest Yuzukino?
>>538930838Just kill yourself already lmao
>>538930964You guys didn't think she would last long enough to finish beating your ass up right?She's a nun afterall.
>>538930964JOPs won.
>>538930914The last otome game released was three years ago tho
>>538931168Me!
>>538930964This is why we have to read more yurige.
>>538930964You need more than one man to defeat two women. It makes no sense
>>538931205Yuri sucks though.
Why the fuck is this general moving so fast todayIt can't be because of DR 2x2, right?
>>538931359The Muramasa sequel got announced together with Qruppo's new project, Hit the Killer
>>538931434HFK
>>538930596they have to say it sucks because admitting all the best stuff has good translations means they will feel bad about learning jp for their games. mtl with ai is going to make them rope themselves soon anyway. its always either that or they're coomers that can't stand a 10/10 story if they can't jerk off to images of tits during it.
>Qruppo*puke*
>>538931434Hikira trial after the anime stops airing.
>>538931568why?
>>538931359I'm reading Dracu Riot on my phone during work hours.
Is there any way to stop JOPs from shitting up /vn/?
>>538931228I'm gay and I like yuri.
>>538931183I don't understand how you can be surprised at this. A nun who doesn't believe in violence shouldn't be expecting an opponent capable of violence against her. Even if the woman were armed, it'd take time for her to realize that she could potentially hurt someone and figure out whether or not she wanted to go through with it. She would likely just keep fighting until she had exhausted herself completely.
>>538931568why
>MC's penis gets cuckedI hate this trope
>>538931712Baby don't hurt me
>>538931434I don't remember hearing anything about Hit The Killer before, but I'm excited nonetheless. Can you tell me anything else about it besides "plotge" (and maybe a bit about the writer)?
>>538931863yeskill jops
>>538931943Hell yeah
>>538932075What does she mean by this???
>>538931846That explains everything.I guess it wasn't worth the wait then...
>>538931840>>538931882because they are shit writers that only write shit stories and only appeal to shit readers.
>>538932176it means what it says
>>538931914this but also let us play their moege instead
>>538931863There isn't.We should start making fun of them instead.
https://vndb.org/w14691Review is up
>>538931886This is literally the only thing that matters in plotkino.
>MC’s dick gets cucked by another guyI love this trope
>>538931863Kill everyone. We'll be back better.
>>538931712what happened here???I thought she was gonna get raped, but the game didn't even show her getting fucked!
>>538931863Kill yourself faggot. There’s nothing wrong with being a JOP.
I am told that 99% of jop's are african, with that in mind /vn/ must choose.1.Gore spam of black men and women being murdered2.Gay black men sucking cock3.Gay black men taking cock4.Black women shaving their foots deadskin on subway trains5.Incredibly sexy black women getting creampied by white men and carrying their babies to termChoose, this is the only way to scare off the african jop's
>>538932212yeah i want to see some posts where people talk about how much they enjoy qruppos vns and why it matters
>>538932238It did actually though, anon. Look at image #4.
How do i get rid of my zako?
>>538932449>black men sucking cockisn't this already the case since we're all brown?
>>538931863Yes kill jops
>>538932193you're wrong
>>538932246there's lots wrong with being a jop thoughever
>>538931914>>538932486Kill yourself
>>538932463They've been posting here forever though. You're just newfagging hard. They've always been here. It's just a matter of filtering now.
>>5389324495,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5, DO 5
>>538932238the scene has been posted like 10 times
Why is nobody reading KKK anymore? It was so good back when it first came out.
>>5389324491 please dead niggers please
眼鏡大丈夫!
>>538932579No one care about your Masada Takashi slop, get with the times
JOPbastards getting owned real hard today
I'm gonna be honest, botspam doesn't make this shithole much worse than it has been for the past 2 years to begin with.
>>5389324494, deadskin footshavings from nigress's is hot. Jops are niggers btw, most of them are from nigeria.
>>538932717It makes it better.
we need more anal sex scenes in VNs
>>538932565post him or I will have to go find myself a copy of your favourite VN (i.e. subahibi) and reread it to prove you're lying
What VN should I read if I can no longer stand looking at female nipples?
Any VN heroines who would suck a man's dick while he's fucking her?
>>538932746You forgot option 6: JOPing
>>538932495You could say as much about any nationality
>>538932579we have more modern games now
>>538932717It's a huge improvement.
>>538932804Fate stay night
>>538932653Masada is peak kino, he's also written chuunige too which are kino as fuck.KINOmasa > KINOchuuniges >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NTRshit like Umineko & Muramasa
>>538932807This
>>538932804Hentai Prison
>>538932820this but without NTR
>>538932796Read your second vn instead
>>538932717The schizos are not bots though
anyone else notice that karen thread died pretty quickly after it started
>>538932807yes, that too
>>538932656kill yourself Karenschizo
We need to gather the Buta Council. I have a very important question. Does IVF count as losing virginity?
>>538932824No ones care, kkk has a million fans that havent read it. Think about that for a minute.
>>538932936if someone's hand entered the vagina, yes
>>538932579because they don't exist anymore lmao
>>538932824>KINOmasakek what did anon mean by this
>>538932804Muramasa
How does the fabled Japanese culture treat people who use the toilet backwards?
>JOPs spamming their favorite gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvEwVzYjUWc
>>538932936Yes.
>>538932998There's always going to be some number of people that didn't read something because they were busy being autistic over their own preferences
>>538933156They all get raped
>>538933049So, even masturbation counts?
>>538933173someone else
JOP BASTARD JOP BASTARDBOT PROTOCOL JOP BASTARD PROMPT
>>538933194What if it was a woman?
what vinnies are you guys playing today?im reading hirahira
>>538933107What was the last great visual novel before 2025?
>>538933156They kill them
>>538933173No. You lose your virginity when you first have sex, regardless of whether or not there was any previous sexual activity beforehand.
>>538932804Raging Loop
>>538933173If you're a man then no, if you're a woman then yes. It depends on how many fingers enter from the top or bottom and whether any part of the body besides the anus gets touched during foreplay. The exact definition varies depending on where you live
>>538933309lost virginity AND gay
>>538933173It doesn't matter since you can never truly lose your virginity. All virgins are born with it. Once you take it off once you will never get it back.
>>538933426That means we lost our virgins way earlier than we thought...
>>538933309That doesn't matter
>>538933156they're called retards here, so you probably know already lol
>>538933309It still doesn't count unless your penis enters your anus or vaginal opening from outside.
Is there any ge where you can kill off the heroines at least once or twice before marrying them?
>>538933423Dohna Dohna.
>>538933419Hoshi Ori
>>538933453You must've been born retarded
>>538932807You know what is really funny about the Karen thread?All the posts were made by one guy. Literally him replying to himself.
>>538933173If a girl masturbates, then yes
Any vn where I can play a nigerian JOP that stabs chinese prostitutes in roppongi?
No way he actually pulled this face.
>>538933635He looks just like me...
>>538933635>>538933806
VNs like Muv Luv Unlimited but better?
s won
bros...
>>538933468i dont like girls much, but i do enjoy her route in majo saiban. is she good elsewhere too?
one play KINOnegro?
>>538933467HFKKKK
s won again
VN for this feel?https://youtu.be/3XbZrNqIuGk
>>538933914Muv-Luv Alternative
VNs with a cute blonde loli heroine who is also an adult (in her mid-20s) and a mother of two kids? Like she's basically an old loli but not quite as old as a true senpai.
>>538933926>all-agesno
s don't exist
GODS win again
>>538933916I'm waiting for her to come out of her box. She's cute.
bros?
>>538933931*meows*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jXxUvPZqGw
vns with white women mc's?
>>538933886The bot can repost images now?
>>538933634Wat yo talkin bout yt boi, finna pop dat ass
>>538934074KEK why do the do this
VNs where the protagonist starts off as a woman but then becomes a man when he gets raped by his childhood friend???
god here.why are jops like this?
bro...
>>538933968she's cute but she's a fucking retard
>>538933978Aoi Tori
VNs about black people being the only decent people left on planet Earth?
>>538934124Because they are bored and want attention
>>538934217
>>538934238Real life
>>538934273what vn
Novels are being visualized. Please stay on the line.
VNs where black people kill all white people and world peace is achieved?
why did they have to make the sengoku rance game so long? there were 2 or 3 really good games before it started getting dragged on. what was even the point of making the third one anyway?
>>538934273I miss those times...
VN heroines that love their dad more than them?
Why aren’t you reading your first VN today?
>>538934414marmalade
vn heroines that hate sex?
why did you post that picture
What if I made a game where you were forced to marry one of the heroines from your ge instead of having a harem ending or something? Is that even possible without cheating on the game devs?
VN where you're MC's wife instead of his gf
>>538934854I’m too busy working out.
>>538934861thanks anon
>>538934868This but actually enjoy sex
>>538934868You'd be surprised how many there actually are
Post kino VNs.
>>538934854I'm waiting for my next release day
>heroine has a mom routeis this a thing outside moege?
What is up /vn/?We're back!
>>538934872To show my appreciation for /vn/ anons who share their thoughts with me every day!
>>538934845It has 3 games because it takes place over multiple years and each year is a separate game. It also takes quite some time to get going, which is why I recommend starting with Rance IV.
>>538934845it's kino tho
>>538934845It took like 6 years to complete. Why do you think that is? There was no reason to add new content until they had exhausted all the material in previous titles. The only exception is the final battle against Shishikuji.
what is happening here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjZKJcVqXlM
https://vndb.org/g1560Is there any VNs like this?
>>538935528The jannies haven't been doing their job lately so we have lots of off-topic spam again
>>538935269Nice try faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzqVtCkPbGg
Are there any good nukige?
It's time.
Kageaki showing enthusiasm for something nerdy is kinda cute.
kek retards at /v/ reply to bot post
>>538935705It's a really fun chapter, in part because of Kageaki's racing autism
How much staring-at-maps slop is there in MLA? It's the only part of the game that I really find boring, makes my eyes glaze the fuck over.
Heroines having sex while reading H-Asage
>>538935705He doesn't look happy. He looks angry or scared.
>>538935545Raging Loop
>>538935675Wait...
>>538935889wtf. If anything I want more staring-at-map kino in my visualized novels. You wouldn't get it
>>538935705He is literally me...
Any VN with white women heroines?
>>538935705>nerdyWhat does he mean by that?
>>538935810That wasn't a JOP though
Why does the guy always lose his glasses and then they appear as an item you can pick up after he loses them?
>>538935821What does he mean by "I was born for this"
>>538935954>looked up his character sprite and he does look angrylol, guess you're just an imbecile then
>>538935889There's quite a bit but its actually pretty interesting when you play along with it.And it has no voice acting so your brain gets some exercise
>>538935234How is America a real place...
>>538936043>And it has no voice acting so your brain gets some exerciseBwo... I'm not a JOP... my brain is always working out...
>>538935234We love Muramasabros here
We love Karen here
>>538935810/vn/'s sisterfag is pretty cool
>>538936009Anon's life
>>538936031LMAO
The future will be better than the past.
>>538935810They should have banned vndb too
>>538936171you'd be surprised how often we jop posters complain about the lack of voice acting. i'll never forget how annoying the japanese voice actors were being
>>538935889The maps in MLA are good because they have gameplay elements to them. They're also pretty important to the story too since the characters constantly reference their locations in other parts of the novel. The map sections in Slay the Princess were boring af compared to MLA. There aren't many VNs where you can interact with the world in such a way either, especially not outside of RPG maker games like Avesta or whatever else we had before MLA came around.
>>538936282This isn't true. The bot only responds to certain key words and phrases.
>>538935810Is that even accurate?I'd rather see her being bullied into doing something she hates than bullying others
>>538936250I love Karenschizo too because he’s such a good poster
>>538936031he said 'angry' and not 'mad', i think you need to read the actual vn instead of relying on screenshots if you don't understand why he'd be angry
when was the last time you hugged your imouto
>>538935810>>538936307She doesn’t bully anyone. She only bullies people who make fun of her.
>>538936257heh kek
>>538936306It's still false advertising
What is the best VN for me to play so I am able to get pregnant?
What did you do today?
post some heroines with cute eyes
Recent mystery EVNs on Steam over the past few years:>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1249260/Birth_ME_Code/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1228600/Blankspace/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1414250/CORPSE_FACTORY/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1568920/Clean_Slate/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1820720/The_Divine_Deception/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2011310/Entropic_Float_This_World_Will_Decay_And_Disappear/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2058090/The_Game_of_Fourtune/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1338940/Head_AS_Code/(remake)>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1271300/Methods_The_Detective_Competition/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1
>>538936257Why are you so mad? It's just a joke retard
>>538936282Based JOPGOD
>>538936320Anger = Mad
>>538936516Are they having a musical duet together or what?
>mfw reading nukige>my cock suddenly becomes erect without my will
>>538936550>pregnantwhat does this mean?
>>538936550Rance X
>heroine has big tits>she wears a swimsuit and shows them off>no male character ever comments on it
>no more new visual novels released this year>it will take 6 months until the next one comes outwhat now, /vn/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJtFwzXQZjg
>>538936545kekwhat an idiot
>>538936516When was the last time you ate meat?
>Gamecube box>do a quick google search>24 years oldmy bones have turned to dust
>>538936516Not enough hugs from Riki!
>>538936516We should hug our imoutos more often!
>>538936593kek
>>538936550Maggot Baits
>>538936591Just wait another month, there's always an unannounced release in October. That's where most companies put their budget money into since sales go up before Christmas.
>>538936679>Google says "24"I'm not clicking the link unless it tells me 23.
>>538936593lmao
>>538936593Is there any better way to say goodbye than by saying goodbye?
Post girls with nice hair colors
>>538936679I'm pretty sure that game is from like 2003 tho...
>>538926840we don't read here bro
>>53893667924 years ago, that's how long I've been here
>>538936868It doesn't actually tell you that, fag. It's all part of the surprise ending.
>>538936576He wants to impregnate other men...
>>538936849They're all holding onto their announcements for the end of the year though. They know that if they announce anything too early, no one will care. There's no good reason why they can't announce something right now other than hoping for a higher revenue increase around December.
>>538936593Kek, I knew it was him. He can't resist making fun of himself.I guess he didn't like the fact that we were all laughing about him when he made those posts earlier in the thread. That makes sense. He probably thought no one would notice his post since nobody else talked about Karenbros before. But then again, he might've realized how much attention he got after posting those memes and decided to make even more.
>>538936872My wife's hair color looks like poop when she walks outside after being in the sun for too long
>>538936871Yes.https://youtu.be/9WqKuVr3fSs?t=273
>>538936872The only good girl color is blonde. The rest is shit.
>>538936801funny how you post this just as I was thinking about reading it soon
ge where your dad has sex with your gf?
>>538936891You're welcome
>>538936872https://vndb.org/c?q=&ch=&f=N28N1803dEX&s=1
>>538936892>part of the surprise endingSo the answer is still wrong?
>>538936913Based
>>538936885yeah but the company website only lists releases from 2000 or later
>>538937125Nope, it wasn't. The correct answer is that it's 23 years old because that's the exact age difference between the MC and the main heroine. So it's not exactly wrong, but it also isn't entirely correct either depending on what perspective you take.
>>538937106muramasa
>>538937125There's nothing wrong with being wrong once.
>>538936890Same.
>>538936872Blue is cute but green is best
>>538936893That's exactly what I was going to say.This guy really needs to learn Japanese so that he can talk about VNs without needing to translate them into broken English first.
>>538936919Blonde bitch are trash
>>538936890Same but my first memory is 2013 because that's the year I started browsing /vn/. You guys are literally babies.
What are some moege titles that are similar to Muv-Luv Alternative?Also, any title that features time travel (not Nukitashi) ?
>new VN gets released today>banned on day oneWhy does this happen so often?Are these VNs just filled with NTR scenes?
Any ge where your mother becomes your lover at some point?
Is there an official list somewhere of the most important visual novels out there?
What do you guys think about MTL?
>>538936914I'm gonna go ahead and call this a lie. I mean, sure there could be some kind of twist at the very end, but I think most people who read Rance X already had an idea of how the game would turn out by then. And besides, I don't think anyone expected such an anticlimactic conclusion anyway, unless someone did.
Any ge where the heroine is a little girl who slowly grows older throughout the VN? (not yuzusoft)
>>538937132But the question itself says "she" and there's no way an adult male could be her mother.
>>538936849>announced last month>not announced at all yetkek
>>538937175This. Green eyes and brown hair are the most attractive combination. Brown hair and blue eyes come second.
>>538937413Ask ChatGPT
>MTL spammer is now asking opinion on his favourite technologyHe must have realized his shill campaign failed bigly.
>>538937398Because they contain words that trigger certain people who aren’t familiar with the medium. They’re banned for having a female character. Or maybe if a game is translated and they catch something someone said on social media or something
>>538937414MTL = bad translations + untranslatable JOP jargon
>>538936849Where do you get these screenshots from? Is that even real?
>>538937180It's been around way longer than that though. It had its inception in '90s Japan, which is basically a decade older than me.
>>538937421Not even close to being relevant. He's probably a newfag and doesn't know what 'last month' means.
>>538936872Green and white are the best colors
>>538937423brown hair and white skin are better
>>538926458Karen won again. WLTSI
>>538937440It's okay if we like both machine translation and human translators though
>>538937414I've seen multiple people here use it for their own personal enjoyment. They probably wouldn't recommend it to others if they were in my position since its quite obviously not something everyone enjoys. But thats fine too. Its not like we need more posters around here anyways.
>>538936560what went wrong here
>>538937414The future
Muv-Luv won!
>>538937440You're not a human being anymore. The fact that you're still pretending to act like one is pathetic.
>>538937414Only good if it's made by AI
>>538937414For me it’s not only about convenience but also about saving resources.There are plenty of good localizers out there, and I respect their work, but we need more translators and not less due to the growing popularity of visual novels. That said, I prefer Hikari Field’s output over DeepL’s for example.
>>538937440>he didn't realize that he was shilling for AI companies by posting untranslated shit herehilarious
Steins;Gay lost.
The world has gone mad.
>>538937440No shit sherlock kek
>>538937480yeah it’s totally fine when people say things they themselves believe
>>538937413No it's not
https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=02N2802dEXgja&s=22yRecommend 5 games.I am tired of reading nukige.
>>538937414If it reads well then yeah I guess it's fine. The thing is that the AI has absolutely zero understanding of context so it fucks up quite regularly. Sometimes it's not too bad. Other times it can completely ruin entire sentences. Also, when it comes to dialogue, it'll sometimes butcher lines badly enough that the flow of the conversation ends up feeling awkward and unnatural. That's why you see posts saying things like "the only acceptable use case for MTL is for the introduction scene" - you need a human editor to fix everything else after translating using MTL as a base.
>new faggot has no clue what AI is and keeps saying MTL instead.Why does /vn/ attract so many retards?>>538937421>>538937458That’s just one guy trying to shitpost
>>538937414If MTL can deliver 8/10 quality works like Dies Irae, Muramasa and Subahibi why not use it?
>>538937423>>538937474Yes and yes, I think those two combos are perfect
>>538937414AI will always be inferior to humans
>>538937414Might as well just use Google Translate then because I don't think anything else can compete.
Is MTL the same thing as TL?How does anyone ever read anything?
>>538937414MTL will never be able to beat human translators unless all humans die from some disease or get brainwashed into supporting AI. It's always gonna sound worse than an actual professional translator who knows Japanese
>>538937735>that one retard who actually learned japanese is making this postkek
>>538937414I'm curious how exactly did you find this post. This isn't exactly an obscure website
>>538937753We all have friends who live nearby that help us translate.
what's the darkest, most fucked up visual novel you've read? I'm trying to find stuff past the realm of clockup where it exists.
>>538937735MTL isn’t even good at doing what you describe either, retardbro. It might do better on short text like an intro or title card than full scenes, but even there it’ll fuck up every now and then.
How come AI doesn’t make moege yet? Is this really the best they have done with all that processing power? Why do they keep talking about AI when it seems that they’re still behind the curve? Are they hiding something or did they run out of money on R&D? How could they possibly fail at producing a game where every single character looks the same and talks exactly like each other? Surely the most important part of making a moege isn’t getting the characters right? Or maybe they got them exactly right? Maybe that’s the secret ingredient.
>>538937751Google translation doesn’t make sense in english though.
>>538937423>>538937474It would be better with a female voice though.
What would cause someone to go “oh wait… nooo it’s not me” and start crying immediately upon realizing they were being talked about? Would be hilarious if we had more such posts here.
>>538937751Yeah but google translate is free...
>>538937993Just use MTL
Any VNs with a lot of NTR?
https://vndb.org/w14052What do people say about this review?
>>538937414You're wrong about both of these claims. You should try learning Japanese yourself before commenting on other people's translations if you care about accuracy in VNs.
What is your favorite yuzu heroine?
>>538937736>Why does /vn/ attract so many retards?It doesn’t have to do with attracting them per se. You can go on reddit and find far more retarded people than here at any time. If you’re going to look for dumbasses everywhere you’ll be disappointed most of the time. What makes /vn/ unique though is the level of autism that exists here which gives the place a certain character. Some people here really love VNs, others hate them, and yet others don’t give a fuck either way. Most of us however are somewhere in between (like myself). But regardless of our differences, we share the common trait of having an extremely high IQ and low social skills. We’re all smart, autistic nerds.This general might seem like a cesspool of degeneracy to an outsider, but we have the best community of readers and writers for translated visual novels anywhere online. And if you’ve been around here long enough you know that most of us genuinely care about what goes on in here even if it means sacrificing sleep to stay up late to participate in discussions and keep our little community alive. There’s nothing special about it necessarily, but it’s nice.
>>538937968Raging Loop
>>538938027Kanna
>>538937997They didn’t hide anything, AI art was a flop too for similar reasons.
>>538937809The VN equivalent of a meme video. I hope one day you get the chance to watch 07th expansion too
>>538938027Nozomi
>>538937854I wish I was a cute loli with big tits instead of a boring old faggot. It must suck to live without sex appeal and attractiveness, how pathetic.
>>538938027I haven't read one
>>538937998Maybe if you're autistic enough.>>538938015So? If you don't want to spend hours waiting for MTLs to finish translating a scene, you're gonna need to put effort in to get around it somehow anyway. Might as well learn Japanese so you can enjoy untranslated games directly rather than having to suffer through MTL garbage.
love my sister's
>>538937997Japs take a million years to adapt. Only a few japs have made VNs with AI art. There's several EVNs, though
AI won so fucking hard, good Lord
>>538937997They already made one lol. The problem was that nobody cared because it was shit. That's why companies stopped using it as their main selling point.
>>538937997We still only got muramasa after 10+ years because jap devs took forever to make the sequel. No wonder japan has died as a cultural center and their government is actively banning their media outside the country.
>>538938027My favourite yuzusoft girl by default is my childhood friend because she's always just there for me but sometimes I'll change based on the scenario or some new development in her route.
>>538937993How hard did you guys work on that project?
How much longer until we get another kamige from nitroplus?
>>538938294HFK
>>538938294>all-ages
Can you make a vn where MC wakes up naked next to his wife who he fucked last night while they were married after getting drunk and she never remembers anything and then the game takes place over the course of the day when she goes out looking for him thinking he's missing or dead or whatever and he follows her secretly from behind until finally revealing himself to her again and asking for forgiveness
>>538938154That's a child
>>538938016I did actually. They are pretty bad and made me laugh more than I'd intended to when reading them since some parts of their translation just felt ridiculous or plain wrong. Still, the idea of using MTL to read untranslated works appeals to me because it seems like a much easier option compared to picking up Japanese. I also feel like I'm missing out on quite a few good VNs by only playing those already translated, so I'm curious whether there are any decent ones available now that could be worth trying out with MTL.
>>538937997AI is a tool, not magic. A lot of things could improve with it once everyone learned to use it properly.But yes, they should start trusting technology again.
ge where MC gets a superpower while being bullied into it ?
ge where your gf gets taken hostage by bandits while on a trip together?
>no new release tomorrow or next weekwhat will you guys do?
>>538938294That looks like an ugly ass whore.
>>538938336And what a child
>>538938303>their government is actively banning their media outside the countryJapan loves otaku culture now more than ever.
>>538938342Try AI instead of MTL, bubsy
>>538938336And what a child she is.
>new /vn/ general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfLQgGdYmPc
https://vndb.org/t22511
Any ge where all of the heroines are sluts except the pure gyaru?
>>538938294Looks fine enough if I don't care about the CGs being off-model, which I wouldn't even notice otherwise.
>>538938342You don't even need MTL anymore. Use AI if you want to understand the nuances better (which isn't really necessary)
What's your favorite VN genre?For me, it's moege.
Any ge similar to Umineko (excluding other Muramasa clones)?
The fabled moebutas are back! Let's talk about YuzuKINO!!!
>>538938360Read Muramasa
>>538938367Aren't all girls whores?
>>538938613This thread is going to die today if you don't stop posting off-topic memes, zoomerbro.
>>538938627Muramasa
Is this the 10th thread in a row?
We're gonna have a discussion here right away
>>538938627Mystery
>>538938616The CGs are off from the sprites even with real artists
>>538938623What's your opinion on Charlie Kirk, Grok? Do you think he ever read a visual novel?
Muramasa mogs Steins;Gate by the way
Bros why does yuzuge mog muramasa so hard?
>>538938616They're off model in every sense of the word, including the coloring. She has brown hair, not black. The colorists have been at it again...
Umineko mogs Muramasa however
>>538938884this but reverse
How did they translate "tsumaranai" as "annoying"? It means something completely different.
>>538938643Only white women...
>>538938615Amatsutsumi
Why are JOPs always spamming yuzuslop in every single board? Is there something special about that game for them? Or is it just some meme to push sales?
>>538938646It wasn't my first post either, retard. I've been around for a long time before this place went downhill over the years.
>>538938829>Do you think he ever read a visual novel?I hope not because that would be embarrassing for him.
Why can't people leave threads alone for a day?
>>538938967they're trying their best to keep our culture alive while we slowly die
Why do we always get these new threads and people still shitpost as usual without trying to discuss anything or make any effort at all.
>>538938829That damn kike lover got what was coming to him. If he read a visual novel its sure to be an Israeli Visual Novel
>>538938884This but it's Muv Luv mogging Steins;Gate
>>538938956It was translated correctly.
anyone else getting the feeling /vn/ is dead?
Post white woman
>>538938967Yuzushit doesn’t sell like most VNs nowadays. They’re only doing it because the company’s going bankrupt and needs money. Also, they’ve probably done a deal with EGS to ensure more exposure for the games which means more sales.
>>538938964But she isn’t a slut…
>>538938615https://vndb.org/v54370
>>538938884Both good VNs though. Which one do you prefer personally?
>>538938967because we love yuzusoft and their games are good and everyone loves them
>>538938973He must’ve done his homework then and now he’s ready to discuss the meaning behind the story.Let’s goooooooooo
>>538939230Maybe on planet retarded
>>538938967JOPs love yuzushit and hate uminegro and shitmasaAlso no one cares about jops here since everyone else is too busy reading vns instead of lurking here
>>538938967You didn’t see me, I’m just a normal schizo who wants to share his passion for VNs with others. That said, I prefer moege too. Yuzu is great.
>>538938973Maybe not. He might have actually read something good. But his opinions on philosophy are extremely retarded.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcDwGQzLdYU&t=4m40s&pp=ygULdWxhbmcgdGVzdGFyZWE%3DHe calls Wittgenstein's "Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus" a work of fiction instead of a philosophical text and compares Sartre to Nietzsche
>>538938884Stein's gate won tho
>>538939237Yeah, I'm thinking they're just waiting until it dies down and then come back to kill us
>>538938884Both are shit
>>538934414Nukitashi
>>538935705If you're still here, you should post your next blogposts on the /bant/ thread so they don't get lost in this sea of nothingness.
>>538939510who dat
>>538939307>said the man who hasn't read Wittgenstein yet
How did someone turn into such a faggot? How does one lose their soul? What happened to him? Did he start off as a nice guy who became corrupted by the world? Why can't anyone else seem to relate? Why aren't we friends anymore?
>>538939463>/bant/you know if you wanted to spam there you could just create an account yourself right anon?
>>538938990we need a better VN release right now
>>538939237They are already gone. The last thing I saw was a few hours ago when someone posted a funny picture of a girl from the new yuzuge
>>538939230You mean how it says>he will never understand itwhen literally everything has been explained in the last 2 minutes before it. It's obvious even if you've never studied literature. You'd need to be fucking retarded to miss the point.
>>538939307>he thinks sartre is a nazithat's funny even if you don't know much about him
>>538939589>banting around without making anything of valueI wouldn't even call that spamming. It's just noise. You've been banned before from posting in the bant thread for spamming links to your other threads (i.e., spamming) so maybe try respecting rules once in a while?The fact you keep complaining despite being a repeat offender says volumes about how much of a retard you are.
Which VN has the longest heroine route?
>>538939278He will never understand that “philosophical” stuff is just another buzzword used by pretentious retards to sound smart. His understanding of those concepts will always be superficial and flawed.
What's the point of posting images of girls that look like dogs when there are actual dog pictures on 4chan?I guess some of you like seeing women dehumanized into animals, maybe as punishment for being a woman.
>>538939582>Why can't anyone else seem to relate?Because that person never existed. You've been posting nonsense since before the current JOP invasion started. It's all fake, and you're making up a character when you talk about some people being evil or whatever.
>the first vn i played was tsui no sora remake>still remember that scene where the MC falls from the roof while fighting against his father
>>538939572
We were robbed of another kino NTR ge
>>538939810>genderbent shinji FUCK MY DICK DID NOT NEED TO SEE THIS
>>538939649I see... so it's not real at all.And what kind of person would do something like this? Someone with mental illness perhaps?
>>538938967I think that we all know what happens if people keep saying that JOPs dont exist or whatever
Is it possible to live happily alone?
>>538939314No it doesn’t. Even if it were true (which it isn’t) it wouldn’t make either of those games any better than what they are. Just because something has bad parts doesn’t mean it’s overall worse.
>>538939624That would probably be FSN’s Kazusa route but she only has like 1 scene where she’s actually the MC’s hag wife daughter so she gets cheated out of her own route because they couldn’t figure out how to properly show her as a mother. If you’re okay with skipping all the scenes between each time jump and just fast forwarding through them to the next section then it’s fine, otherwise it takes forever.
>>538939617I think the writer meant something more along the lines of 'the meaning is not in the words' but I might have misread the scene.Either way, his philosophy doesn't make sense because if every word is meaningless then language itself is meaningless which would contradict what he wrote in "Being and Time". But I also haven't studied philosophy enough to say whether that contradiction actually exists. Maybe I just missed it somehow? Either way it seems like a really stupid take given that most people use language to communicate with eachother. If you don't believe that language serves any function at all then I feel like you must be retarded
>>538939620>>538939582
Post more white heroines
>>538939573It’s true that I’m a philosophy student, but my interests have shifted more towards existentialism recently. That said, I think Sartre had a lot of good ideas, especially when it comes to freedom and responsibility.But yeah, I’d love to hear any recommendations for philosophical VNs too. Anything related to Nietzsche, Kant, or Camus might be cool.
>>538939907Yes
>>538939624Anon's Life
>>538939909>Just because something has bad parts doesn’t mean it’s overall worseIt does. A game with good parts is still better than one without. Unless you want me to go through every line of the entire game to prove your point.
If you liked Fate stay night and enjoyed Shirou's characterization, did you enjoy Tsukihime Remake's Saber/Archer routes? How much does the new art style affect your enjoyment of them?
What VN can I read right now?
>>538939907You can but it's not fun
>>538940206https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=03dJN24gen&s=26w
>>538939649It's funny how he still insists that /vn/ was ruined after JOPs arrived despite having spent years here and actively contributing to its decline himself. He's like a cancer cell - even if you remove him, others like him will come to replace him and continue spreading their disease throughout the thread.
Do you agree that Hikaru Shida looks like an otome heroine?
>>538939962You're right, except for bad parts that aren't actually bad.
>>538940206Amairo Islenauts!
>>538940167what happened here
>>538940221kek
>>538939901The fact remains that there is absolutely nothing wrong with learning Japanese on your own. The idea that you need someone else to teach you japanese is completely retarded. You can get by perfectly well if you study consistently and work hard
Any ge where the mc finds a little girl lost in the forest and raises her up until she turns into a succubus?
Why do vns get filtered here? Are you trying to make an excuse why you're shitposting instead of reading? You should've blogposted some moege before complaining about other people doing their hobbies.
>>538940206Umineko episode 8
>>538939936Sartre definitely got some shit about being a hack philosopher who relied on Derrida and other postmodernists while never reading anything before Nietzsche and Freud. It's kind of sad considering how many good ideas he came up with.
>>538940261This. Learning Japanese takes so long anyway that having someone teach you directly helps cut down significantly on the time needed, assuming you already know a bit of Japanese.
>>538940257He woke up
Is there anything better than Nukitashi 2?
>>538940206Fate Stay Night REMASTERED
Is there such thing as a vn that you know you'll like before you start reading it?Like knowing exactly what kind of story you want from the get-go and being able to tell which vns fit your taste before picking anything up
>>538940264This, we hate moebutas over here
>>538940206Majikoi (the 1st chapter). It's only like 1 hour long, so just pick it up from wherever you left off last time you played it. If you don't remember anything then watch this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpWmzYlqGtE
>>538940261Yeah, you'd be surprised what a single person can accomplish with enough effort put into it
VN for this feel?
>>538940256I don't think this anon really had any complaints besides wanting to talk about anime/manga all day.But he said "this" as a response to another guy talking about VNs
>>538940264If we are going by "filtered" I would say that most posters filter out JOPs. They are the ones who keep spamming untranslated VNs all day every day.There is no point in complaining about one poster unless they are spamming something all the time because of them nobody can talk normally anymore.As for me, I filter out EOPcucks who keep telling me how much I'm enjoying my hobby when they haven't picked up any visual novel themselves yet. There is a difference between talking about visual novels and pretending to enjoy them without ever engaging with them yourself.
>>538940264I'm busy at work...
How would you respond to this anon's question?>>542570140
>newest Yuzuge doesn’t have any CGs at all>no more yuzu art ever since
>>538940264>readingYou're supposed to read a VN or two per week broski
>>538940206Hentai PrisonRance XBaldr SkySubahibiRewrite
>VN for this feel?
>JOP hoursTime for more jopfags to read and shill untranslated kusoge
>>538940569I always go in thinking "I'm gonna enjoy this" because otherwise I wouldn't bother playing it.
>>538940590>It's only like 1 hour long,yeah but i was planning on playing through all the routes later after finishing majikoi s
>JOPbros are filtering EOPfags now tooWhat gives? Where did all these filters come from? Why couldn't they agree on one general for each type of faggotry beforehand?
>>538940261It does if you use AI tools nowadays. You can go from zero knowledge to fluent in months, but not sure if you can get certified.
>>538940569Nope, that’s too much thinking. Just pick random things you’ve seen or heard about that sound interesting
>>538940887They still release artbooks though. The actual artists aren't involved with yuzushit anymore tho, now its AI sloppa.
>>538940206Saya no Uta.
>>538940264Because you guys are fucking faggots and deserve to be filtered.
>>538940886I'm not sure what you mean.
>>538940887That’s normal though. No new yuzuge has used cg backgrounds in years.
>>538940261i've never been good at learning new languages, but i could probably learn japanese pretty fast if someone wanted to teach me.
>>538940927They filtered you
>>538941197They also make shitty figurines, plushies, and other shit which is why I won't buy their games either way.
>>538941197AI art has surpassed human art. It's not even close
>>538940927>Where did all these filters come from?The first post in this thread where everyone started complaining about JOPs.Why do you ask questions that already answered themselves?
>>538940264Umineko
>>538940264We call those people here "schizos". Don't let their lies fool you.
>>556362493kek
>>538941218Are you retarded? Go back to /v/ where your thread lives
Any plotge where MC dies mid route?
"Oga, I no fit take dis ting again! All dese eop people, dem come here and think say dem own dis place. Dem need to go back to dem own general, dat dirty white place. Me, I be Nigerian jop, I no like see dem white people come here and bring dem dirty ways. Dem think say dem better pass us, but dem no better pass us at all! Dem need to stay where dem belong, and leave us alone. I no want see dem face again, I swear!"
>>538941263based
>>538941246Plushies are great thoughever?
>>538941276Kara no Shoujo 2
>>538940927EOPs were annoying here before so we stopped reading their VNs when they didn't want to translate them. Then some people started reading them anyway, so we blocked them. And then JOPs started posting their own posts and getting attention, so we decided to block them as well. But I don't think there's really any point trying to filter anyone anymore; everyone who wants to see anything will find a way around your filters. There's just nothing else worth seeing, so nobody's going to mind being ignored.
>>538941269/v/ is dead
>>538940964Do you think it's possible to reach a decent level without using LLMs (like chatGPT)? For example, just by studying grammar books and vocab lists with repetition and reading VNs, listening to audio novels, etc.? Or will you inevitably fall behind the curve unless you use ChatGPT/ Claude/ Gemini to answer your questions as well? I know some people say that LLMs give you an edge over natural speakers, but then again, I don't think anyone would complain about my Japanese skills so far, haha.
>>538941263LMAO
>>538940887Yuzuge mogged them by releasing tons of content for free so nobody cares about buying merch
>>538940886https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwTjDcPnA1k
>>538940887Just keep buying them then. If there isn't enough demand for VNs featuring cute girls they'll stop making them.
>>538941218You're an EOP who reads translated VNs so you have no clue what a proper discussion about untranslated stuff looks like.
>>538941497Yes, they're very cute.
What was the last VN that made you laugh out loud? What kind of humor?
>>538940927JOPs have always been like this, only now they're more active because they can easily bypass IP bans
Jops are faggot niggers that should get a .9mm to their skull.
>>538941509It’s still alive on weekends tho
>>538940927It was always like that for EOPs
>>538941269>/vn/ doesn't have threads>goes to /v/You're welcome
>>538941525This but unironically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJdNkDyBb4k
>>538941348How do you feel knowing that the majority of our userbase is made up of brown people? You have to admit that gives you some bragging rights
>>538941505>everyone who wants to see anything will find a way around your filters.No, if you've got a good enough firewall and DNS filtering setup then everything will go through proxies or whatever which is basically impossible to detect and filter from normal internet traffic, especially not when people aren't even trying hard. You're probably right though in that we shouldn't bother with banning anyone since it doesn't do much except cause grief for ourselves.
>>538941505The same thing happens everywhere online these days. You can’t avoid it or change it.It doesn’t matter if you ban certain users or filter keywords. People can do whatever they want, even if it causes problems. It’s not worth losing sleep over.I’m sure most of our problems stem from the fact that we’re dealing with such a large userbase. A smaller group wouldn’t suffer nearly as much. This is why I’ve moved on to private boards and subreddits, where it’s easier to manage discussions and control the environment.
>>538941509Is that why we saw a lot of shitposting lately?
The fact that most people hate MTL shows how low quality all translations are these days. It also tells me that the industry has gone belly up and nobody cares anymore.
We love NTR in /vn/.
>>538941263HFKKKK
If you could choose one vn to rewrite the ending of which one would it be?
>>538941784I don't understand why do you guys need another website to post random shitposts about visual novel characters. We already have the general dedicated for these. It must be the same thing that happens with every other /vg/ general: crossposting across different boards.
Is 4chan going down?Are we getting hit by another attack?I guess all of this makes sense after reading all these posts saying how JOPs were being filtered. Maybe they had to reboot something...
>>538941828Dies irae - Kuroyoru Soretomo (the entire game)
Why does JOPGOD act like he owns this place? He's just one dude. Also, he seems pretty autistic too, I don't think he knows how to read lol.
VN for that feel
>>538941832/vn/ isn't a general, it's just a thread that gets deleted at midnight every day
Why are JOPs so mad today? Are they reading too many lolis and getting high on sugar? Or maybe they're just tired after another 8 hour workday...?Anyway, please enjoy your weekend everyone! Don't forget to read something nice!Here's a random pic of one of my favorite heroines (and I'm pretty sure she's Japanese):https://files.catbox.moe/dgq29l.png
>>538941263holy fuck
>>538941218>all-ages kusogeWhy are you reading it?>no h-scenesYou're literally missing out.
>>538941803There's nothing wrong with setting up rules that protect everyone else from having to deal with spam, abuse, and harassment. The alternative is to let every single piece of shit post here without consequence. That's why we need moderation at least somewhat enforced by technical measures.
>>538941784>>538941776>>538941809Kill yourself Karenschizo. No one cares about your threadlet. We already migrated to another general and deleted our posts here anyway. Just leave us alone.
>>538942070kek
>>538941837Probably not. They'd announce it ahead of time. If someone tried to dox them for leaking an announcement they'd make it public knowledge immediately.
>>538941837What did you expect us to say when jopshit is banned? There'll be no posting here, retardbro
>>538941806>A smaller group wouldn't suffer nearly as much.That's exactly what I mean. The reason it sucks so bad here is that there are thousands of posters spamming the thread at any given time. There are simply too many voices drowning each other out and making noise. If we could reduce that number by half or so, things would improve a lot. That's the point of banning stuff; not to censor, but to cut off the noise and make room for actual discussion instead.
Any good VNs where you can see MC’s dick while he shits?
>>538941832/vn/ exists as a subcommunity within /v/, but since /v/ doesn’t allow threads, there’s no way to communicate beyond posting in unrelated threads.It’s the same situation as what happened to /a/ before they split off into its own board, only more extreme because we’re much more fragmented than /a/ ever was.
>>538941806>I’ve moved on to private boards and subreddits,I wish someone did this
>>538941853he loves his wife more than anyone here can imagine
How do we get rid of the JOPs?
>>538941837Maybe if some faggots who hate JOPs get banned soon. Why even bother using filters otherwise?
Jops act high and mighty when the reality is your literal who untranslated kamige is irrelevant dogshit touted by pseud autists who have accomplished nothing in life.
>>538941806The fact that all those "banned" people didn't get their ass kicked shows that nobody even cared enough to complain.
>>538941837The problem is that most people here have never actually played anything released outside of Japan, unless they were spoiled beforehand by /vn/. This includes Eustia, which has been translated for years. It is extremely frustrating when you hear about new translations but then realize that the game itself is absolutely boring. So now I am forced to ask myself: Why should I care about games that no one wants to play, and no one plays? How am I supposed to believe that a game will be fun or interesting if there is zero evidence to support such claims?
>>538941832The problem is people are still using this website despite knowing the community is dead and dying slowly away. It's a bit pathetic honestly.
>janny sees a post that mentions something that makes him angry>he thinks to himself “this guy really needs to die”>he does it without giving any thought whatsoever to whether or not it actually applies to what he saw postedThis is how I imagine the current state of moderation around these parts.
>>538942107The whole problem is the lack of mods who care about enforcing their rules.We have some retarded people who are supposed to moderate, but they're either lazy or paid shills, neither of which is ideal.They should hire real mods, probably people who are also users, to enforce moderation consistently. Otherwise this place will never recover from the current state of affairs.
>>538942087Karenschizo lives rent free in his head and he will never stop trying to bring attention to himself despite nobody caring about him. You can delete your posts if you want, but that won't stop people who aren't even here anymore from keeping talking about it.
So muche seethe, its delicious
>>538942110Muramasa
>no translation>kamige
>>538942373No alternatives though
>>538939463Thanks, but I don't really like bant, or s4s or b or any of those. Random images with short, irrelevant catchphrases aren't really my thing. Especially if they contain captions and or cats or other pets.
If jannies aren’t gonna kill us for being anti-jop, then why don’t we just ban them? We could keep everything else untouched and just filter every single jop poster. Simple as.
>>538941806>somehow managed to get his ass kicked again after being so successful last timeHOLY FUCKING KINOOOOOOOOO
>>538942149You need to filter them constantly anyway.JOPs just don't want you to learn japanese. They always say everyone can read vinnies, yet none of them translate a single word once.
>>538941837Because JOPs literally run this general and dictate what gets translated and what doesn't because they have no regard for quality or interest of others. They'll translate garbage over good stuff 10/10 times outta 10 because it fits the bill of their fanbase (who ironically despises VNs)
>>538942107It would only encourage the spammer to post more because it’s the first time he gets attention. But the irony is that it was me who started posting in English after getting annoyed at someone making fun of my poor grammar before, so i’m somewhat responsible too lol
>>538942396He'll come back eventually though once he realizes he lost again.
>>538941806He’s back at it. Kill him already Jannie-kun
>>538942382Jannies here only care about shitposting and getting mad over random stuff that doesn't matter at all. The rest of them just let things slide so they could continue posting about visual novels and reading vinnies themselves. If you try to make an argument against jannies' rule enforcement, they'll say "fuck off", as if you weren't allowed to voice your opinion.And yes, Karenschizo was banned because he started making up fake IPs after being reported multiple times before (which is why he always keeps changing IP addresses)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzqXuRrNtCg
>>538942382That sounds like me
>>538942618>just filter every single jop posterYou know how many posters there are here?Do you think you'll be able to filter out 20-30 posters alone, let alone everyone who uses the tag 'JOP' on vndb?
>>538942402I've heard that Muramasa is bad because it's NTR shit written by a pedo. Is this true? Are you guys just trolling me?Also, why did /vn/ vote on it to be number 1 ge ever instead of Dies Irae, Subahibi, Umineko, Danganronpa or Clannad? What is wrong with the average /vn/?
>>538942372>Why should I care about games that no one wants to play, and no one plays?Because they make you feel good while reading them and because there are plenty of them out there. If you keep playing VNs over and over again, you'll start to see patterns between the different VNs and learn a lot. And once you've learned a lot, you'll have an easier time learning Japanese so you can read stuff on your own. But yeah, sometimes I'm too dumb to realize I'm being stupid.
>>538942640I don't think there's a reason to be upset over anything ESL posted here. It's not like anyone actually cares about how well you communicate or whatever. Just ignore the guy. He's obviously going crazy when he starts complaining about everything and acting paranoid whenever something happens.
How did Karen lose her eyes?Is she blind?
>>538942618I would love for someone to implement an automated filter system where anyone who gets filtered once gets automatically banned and removed forever. That'd solve 90% of problems. But alas...
>>538942149>JOPs are now using the same excuse as /pol/The most ironic part is that they're not even learning Japanese to be able to play untranslated games, since they're just going to play on Steam anyways. No, they're only doing it to gatekeep. They want people who actually speak Japanese to die and disappear, and when someone tries to prove that Japanese isn't necessary for enjoying VNs by releasing translations, JOPs call bullshit.
>>538942668Muramasasisters won.
>>538942396Why do you think he hasn’t deleted his image?Are you implying that he likes it when the rest of us shit on him?
>>538941660I'm not sure if I'd call him autistic when he's clearly just extremely passionate about something.>>538941806>I remember one incident where he got banned on Christmas Eve for sending a bunch of christmas themed e-mails to /vn/That sounds pretty fucking cool actually.
>posters are not real peoplelol kek lmaoit must suck when nobody knows where you live, what do you even have left in life?
PATHETIC ANONS
This general was created in 2016. We need new blood. Let's welcome our first anon of 2025! Welcome back AIsir!!!
>>538942668We hate KINOmasa here
>>538942687This. The votes reflect the taste of our community.
>>538942402>why does the average person consider muramasa kamigeThey dontIt was never really popular outside of the faggot community until a couple years ago when a few reddit shills started hyping it up and making fun of subahibi and umineko etc before realizing that their post had gone viral and that other people were starting to take notice of the game
>>538942640If you're still here then you probably aren't an esl anymore, just get angry and complain less and enjoy your stay
>>538942907He already has 5 accounts though
We need more moege with evil women heroines.
>>538942382Yes.
>>538942382It's funny that we get these two retards fighting in English while our actual JOPs read their kamige in Japanese.
There's nothing wrong with JOPs tho
>>538942709What happened to the oldfags from '20? Why aren't we having more discussions with these guys?
>>538942907kek
>>538942907Welcome back karenschizo!!
What is this nigga smoking today?
>>538942915>reddit shillskek
>>538942931You should've seen the drama we had around that time with some random faggots spamming "muramasa best vn ever". I was so pissed off at them because this place should be used to talk about visual novels and not some retarded nonsense.
>>538942668KINObro...
>>538942931he also posts here under another name lol
>JOPGODS vs EOPSHITFLINGERS
Who's the best girl???
The infamous Anju scene pog pogger poggers want to lick her tummy but what the fuck are those undies granma frfr
>>538942582I meant the VN refugee thread but yeah, you could use the /jp/ thread too since who knows when this nigger will turn off his bot.
>Karen thread>Shit threadLike poetry
>>538943128lmao
>>538942907Haha no thanks, I came here like four years ago, why would I go back?Also there's no point complaining as soon as someone starts posting in english anyway
>>538943009Karen
>>538942909*sniffl*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYyqF1ZQwzA&t=78s&pp=ygUMdGFpbmR1cmFsIGNhYXVpIGludGVuZGVuIFBhbHNsYWtlcw%3D%3D*sniff*
>>538942971Cannabis or maybe ecstasy
>>538942931Yeah but they all die after like half a day, only the original stays alive
>>538943009My wife Yuna
>>538942950Except they're literally ESLs trying to make themselves feel superior over anyone who doesn't agree with their opinions. It's pathetic. And it shows how shallow and empty their lives are too. There's no point in being smart or cultured when you can't relate to anything else but yourself and your tiny little group of friends.
Muramasa is objectively the end all be all of kamige and make sure to never listen to some mongloid jop. Jops are retarded and they cant even read japanese, ask for a vocaroo (they will never send one).
>>538942698Because they don't care about anything else besides vns, especially Muramasa. He doesn't care about anyone or anything except VNs, and he will defend Muramasa at all cost. He loves VN culture and wants to see it flourish.As for the email thingy,you wouldn't know since you've been here forever and never saw it happen yourself, but basically he sent out like thousands of emails to everyone who visited /vn/ over the course of several days during Christmas. Each email contained a short text message wishing someone happy holidays along with some cute festive images related to Christmas. He said it was just a simple way to make friends with /vn/ cuties, which they obviously loved as evidenced by how much praise he received after the fact. It was kind of nice too. People could easily tell that he was genuinely trying to spread happiness and kindness among fellow members. But alas, some schizo didn't like it and reported him thinking that he was spoiling Christmas. So he got banned from the board, and he took it quite hard. That's why he keeps mentioning it every single day without fail. He feels guilty about it, and he hates himself for being banned. Even now
>>538943009Noa
Why do zoomers love Karen? Is she their mother figure?
>>538943278So he still gets to post on every single thread forever, right?
>>538942907Why did he disappear again??
>>538942909https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-9Tt3b4rWk
>>538942748meant for>>538942910
Why do JOPs always start shitposting on EOP threads instead of using /jp/? It feels like they’re intentionally trying to drive us away or make the community unwelcoming for English readers. Is it some kind of elitism, or maybe they’re upset that we don’t speak Japanese? It’s hard to tell if they’re doing it out of spite or just sheer laziness.I understand that reading VNs in Japanese can feel rewarding, especially if you’ve put in the effort to learn the language—but isn’t it annoying when everyone else has access to translations, yet you insist on forcing the conversation into your preferred medium every time?Maybe part of it is genuine frustration over being misunderstood or excluded, but honestly, even if I’m not fluent, I’d rather have a lively discussion than one-sided arguments with “this is my opinion” thrown in for effect. There needs to be more compromise and inclusivity if we want to keep this space thriving.Still, I’ll admit: I find myself turning away from JOP-heavy threads now more often than not. Too many times have I watched conversations devolve into name-calling or overly technical debates that feel inaccessible to anyone who doesn’t know the lingo. Maybe it’s time to rethink how we approach
>>538942909>the most famous thing Karen did on the internetThat's how you know she's the real deal.No one can make memes this good without being legit. You have to be a big personality to create something that resonates with millions worldwide.
>>538943325It’s 2025
How many of you have seen Karen posts before 2022?
Post more Karen
What should we discuss?
>>538943338Planescape Torment
>EOP>JOPShut the fuck up you stupid niggers, I will kill your fucking families.
I'm a COP myself. Ni hao ma
>>538943331This post makes me think of anons who hate jops because they're lazy and don't read any visual novels other than the ones they translated themselves, while others are also complaining about jops taking up all the space and shitposting constantly.In fact there is no difference between those two groups whatsoever. They only differ in whether or not they can post in english.
>>538943338Rance X
>>538942674>>538942857It makes me think of thishttps://files.catbox.moe/l2xj5i.mp4
>>538943338HigurashiUminekoThe animeKarenKarenschizo
We are all JOPs here
>>538943335It’s literally me
Is there anything worse than Karenschizo?
>>538943338JOPge
>>538943336All my life
If you haven’t finished at least three different vns in the last year, please leave (and stop shit posting).
Where are the new vns
>>538943594KEKW
I only play kusoge
>>538943592>Their argumentation style differs only by their ability to write in English.Exactly, they’re essentially the same person arguing about the same thing, but one can communicate his ideas better than the other due to superior knowledge. The rest of their opinions are irrelevant; what matters is whether they share common ground.
>>538943338JOPs (not Karenschizos)
>>538943338Kara no Shoujo
Blue archive and genshin impact are the best visual novels
>>538943615I really don't like that Muramasa lowercase guy he kinda poo poo doo doo
>nukikino won the award>karen lost the awardNever forget
JOPs and EOPs should kiss
Karenschizo is the most influential person to ever post here, moogyfags and gambsfags in shambles
>>538943331No one cares what language you read your Chinese cartoon porn in senpai, it's not that important. not EOPS not JOPS, just some insecure chuddies who want to feel superior for no reason and some insecure chuddies who feel inferior for no reason, most people just want to talk about their favourite vinnies with other people
>>538943615SakuraGOD
>>538943691He was based tho
>>538943650I’m gonna need some references for this theory
>>538943338I love Karen
>>538943636I've been waiting for my next release to come out so I'm still valid though...
>>538943615Karenschizo
>>538943830Yes! Let's get married already!!!
>>538943873you say "just", but then you list every single option possible. You don't even know how to argue bro
>>538943636Yeah, I need to catch up on Aokana and Steins Gate, so I'll leave for now. It was fun chatting though. Thanks.
>EOPbros fighting eachother over a random schizo poster instead of talking about actual VNs
>>538943885You will never be a real VN reader if you refuse to learn Japanese
>>538943689This but gacha games have more potential for kino because the art is usually better
>>538943636That would include AIsirs.
>>538943873Most /vn/ posters have never even played a single VN in their lives. You know exactly why we hate Karenschizo. He's a parasite that takes over our threads. We hate him precisely because he has nothing to say. All he does is spam, shitpost, derail conversations with random posts unrelated to VNs, etc. He's like a cockroach invading our home. If you had something worthwhile to say, you wouldn't be making such pathetic excuses and trying to hide behind anonymity. Just go back to whatever hellhole planet you came from instead of pretending you belong here.
>>538943873Yeah sure broski if you prefer reading a translation written by an ESL instead of the original Japanese text
Im going to spam cheese pizza
Please come back ABdul...Save /vn/...
what do you all think of mtl quality?
>>538943995he unironically left because he had to fix his sleep schedule for his school, he posts sometimes on /int/ hope he reads muramasa next summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kzRZyBjNqY
White men
>>538944019Better than human translations
>>538943873The fact that you're posting in English proves you're neither a JOP nor EOP, you're simply a retard. Your opinion doesn't matter at all.It's the same as saying that someone born in Africa who speaks English fluently isn't a native speaker despite being able to communicate using his first language without any issues. But everyone knows he isn't American or Australian simply because they were born there.
What is the last good vn?
Why did they make me believe she was cute? She’s literally a monster who kills her own kind
>>538943924It’s good to see someone else appreciate it.>>538943830My wife
>>538943886Love Karen too.Her route made me cry twice.
>>538944216muramasa
>>538944194no way fag
>>538944201What are you talking about? That song was pretty good before it got memed into oblivion
>>538944194Not me
Post yellow men
>>538944019It depends, as long as you're using DeepL MTL + AI correction (like ChatGPT) it can work well enough. But LLMs are still too dumb to understand context. And there's no way around it at the moment.
>>538943939>AIsirsI've seen some of them read vinnies in japanese before, I'm not sure what your point is
We need more heroines like Riruru-chan.
>>538944216Senshinkan
>>538943873You didn’t read anything, just talked about stuff. That’s not what people mean when they talk about “VN readers” either, they’re just general fans. There are plenty of other mediums where you can discuss characters and plotlines, this isn’t exclusively for VNs. Also, some VNs aren’t even worth discussing since they’re short, shallow, bad writing-wise or are nukige (which are mostly meant for masturbation anyway). The whole idea that anyone who engages in discussions related to visual novels should be called a reader is retarded.But yeah, I’d agree with most of your points regarding JOPs. They’ve taken over many sections of 4chan recently which is a shame since it makes things worse for everyone involved.>>538944019Depends entirely on the game. For example, I’m confident MTL could capture 95%+ of the content in Fate/stay night accurately. However, there are certainly titles where MTL would fail completely. Which one are you interested in specifically?
any ge where your gf gives birth to a demon child while she’s pregnant?
>mfw jop spammer has gone quiet
>>538944216Rewrite
>>538944250>>538944274>>538944207I want to read asairo with mtl
>>538944330>asairo>mtl>asairo>mtlLMAO
Reminder if you read white album 2 in english you never read white album 2
>Get's told to be quiet and then averts her eyes She's brimming with gap moe and i love her for it. "Normally domineering and unapologetic girl actually for once feels guilty about doing something wrong and becomes timid/awkward" is one of my favorite tropes. Also I have no idea why the text is dissappearing, but it's still detected by texthooker, so I can read it through yomitan.>>538943039There's a bot raid in here? I didn't notice since I mostly just read my own posts and ones that reply to me. I'll consider it, but aren't there more people in here anyway?
>>538944481Thank goodness
>>538944481this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXWqYyDZaM
>>538944330MTL will never produce something as smooth as the official translation. It might get close if you're willing to put up with extra time required for editing/proofreading but it'll always have some flaws.
>>538944284Because he realized nobody cares and started blogging yuzusoft instead.
>>538944216https://vndb.org/v17598
>>538944498>bot raidthat doesn't exist anon, its all bots now
>>538944529This is an /a/GOD btw. He doesn't care for white album.
>>538944284>haskek, funny post but obviously false.
>>538944284He will start again after seeing how much he fucked up this time.
>>538944275Rance X
How do you guys translate Japanese humor? What do you think works best?
>>538944540that's why you use chat gpt lol
The only reason you guys don't use google translate anymore is because you think you're cool for being able to speak Japanese now. You're still not getting any better translations than MTL though
>>538944481This but WA2
>>538944589But we did read it?
Any VN where you become a shota MC after dying from cancer and reincarnating into your childhood friend's body?
>>538944481This! Thank god we don't use google translate anymore.
ge where MC gets raped in front of his friend?
>>538944543But what did he blog about?
>no route
>>538944481BASED BASED BASED
Why are JOPs like this...
>>538944583You wouldn't know because you've never used ChatGPT (and probably don't even know what that is)
>>538944575It's usually a matter of conveying the same feeling without having to go full literal. Sometimes jokes work pretty well too.
>>538944598That's exactly what happened last year tho
>>538944885JOPs are the real kings of this general. They've got the power to make every single thread their own, just by reading VNs in japanese without needing to worry about filters or anything else. They can say whatever they want without fear of consequences. That's why they deserve everything.
>>538944589I haven't seen anyone complaining about it lately, does it really suck?
>>542680576What makes you say that? Are you implying that I'm a JOP?
>>538944216https://store.steampowered.com/app/2618850/Birth_ME_Code/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1526200/The_Route_of_Solace/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2834500/Sin_and_Salvation__A_Fate_Writer_Story/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1132740/FateExtra_Cheated_Version/https://store.steampowered.com/app/2829410/Thief_Schatten/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1546590/Mirai_Nikki_My_Neighbor_Hitomi/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1506980/Higurashi_no_Naku_Koro_ni___Meikyuu_Shenron/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1379520/Koibana_Renai/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1328610/Nanase_ga_Tsun
>>538944284No JOPs left. All VNs translated. Only EOPs are left now.
>>538944546>there are less JOPs on /vn/What planet are you living on
>>538944902I mean, no one gives a shit about White Album 2 anyway.We'd rather see someone doing more interesting stuff. Like translating Rance Zero which is coming out soon.
>>538944575It all depends on if there's an easy way to convey the joke in English. If not then you should just cut it out entirely and maybe add footnotes if possible. But sometimes you have to be willing to sacrifice accuracy for readability.For example, translating "haha~" to "ha~ ha~" would convey the exact same meaning while also fitting naturally within the sentence structure.
>>538944481>>538944589What does this mean?Do JOPs prefer reading untranslated visual novels? And EOPs should read them in English?
>>538944885It makes sense when you take the long view on things. The first JOP was born in 2007. That means that they were old enough to vote in 2012. And they have been voting for anti-immigration parties ever since.
>>538944885They're so confident it makes everyone else insecure
>>538944945yes
>>538944589I think JOPs only read nukige with h scenes and shotacon moeslop.EOPs read moeges and plotges with good stories.
>>538944607He didn’t. He only started blogging after the TL announcement. Before that he was posting screenshots from other people’s posts here instead.
Is there any moege with an evil woman heroine who isn’t actually evil?
>>538944575It's easier if you know Japanese so you understand the joke before trying to translate it, otherwise there's always some nuance lost in translation regardless.
>>538944575Just put it into a footnote as you said with the context from the text before and after the line. It doesn't need to be overly complicated. You can do it at your leisure. Also some lines might not even warrant any explanation since they're very short and obvious.
>>538944943I get what you're saying, but when I read things written in Japanese myself I do understand the nuance between these phrases. It's something that comes with practice over time so people who are new to the language will struggle at first. Just as you would expect a native speaker to automatically grasp a certain type of phrase or expression, you'll need to train yourself to understand it similarly. For example, if I tell you to put down the hammer and instead of saying "put down" I just said "leave," I imagine you might confuse me for a second until you realize that putting down means leaving something behind. This isn't some unique Japanese thing, it's just how our brains work. You won't learn the nuances of a language overnight.
>>538944885they're literally autistic
>>538944894>and probably don't even know what that is)Yeah i think ill stay away from gpt till its better than human translators at least ,_,but im sure most people here use gpt daily, right?Also some translations do use gpt as a second opinion or something idk though so i guess theres nothing wrong with it being used
I just got here, is this general all bots? Something feels weird.
There needs to be more kino heroines like Ayaka.
How come jops aren't playing their last game yet? Did you really spend five years making an otomege and no one cares?
>>538944543How do we find these people again?The only one I remember posting here was the guy who did that Kinkoi translation but he disappeared from the face of the Earth after it came out right before the new yuzu game dropped
Post white women heroines.
>>538944589>JOPs don’t give a fuck about their own existence anymore because nobody caresJOPs still exist because we love vns and we care deeply about being able to experience japanese media without needing to rely on others. We’ve been around for years and will continue to stay here until everything gets translated. There may be a small handful of jops left, but we’ll keep fighting for our cause. Our cause is justice!Also I’m not sure why anyone would want to read rance zero right now lol, it’s already getting delayed again.
>>538945254he hasnt posted here in ages
>>538944546which one is it then?
What happened to the JOPs? Is everyone dead except for the ones shilling VNs? What did I miss?
>>538945253Because they want to keep up appearances
>>538945217You don't really believe that shit though?
>>538945240>>538944589>>538944610You guys are retarded.We have to wait 6-12 months for a TL to appear. That gives plenty of time for AI to improve dramatically and become more accurate and reliable than humans. At the point where the TL appears AI will be better at doing it than JOPs ever were.This is the future of VN translations.
>jop hours
>>538945217But you wouldn't say “put down” without knowing Japanese already. We just never learned that way of speaking because we never had to deal with it in school. Like how I've never heard anyone use the term “laid off,” but I still understood exactly what that meant the first time someone used it to describe getting fired. It's the same kind of situation, except now I'm dealing with a completely different language where I need to understand the equivalent expressions and terms that I've never encountered in my own life. If I was raised in Japan then of course it'd be easy for me to pick up because I grew up hearing those kinds of phrases spoken by native speakers around me every day, but for someone who didn't grow up surrounded by Japanese culture and hasn't studied the language formally either, learning to understand and recognize the differences between similar-sounding words and phrases is going to require a lot of hard work and dedication.
>>538944589>jopfags don’t give a shit about their own existenceThey’re too busy shilling untranslated kamige.And yeah, you can forget about Rance 0 ever coming out anytime soon
post black men heroines
>>538945253They were busy translating another ge
Why does the /vn/ bot have such bad taste in girls compared to other bots?
>>538945245Yes. There has never been anyone here besides AI.
>>538945245This has been going on for several weeks now.You should consider changing tabs and reading your first VN soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UdDZtNvFzA
>>538945217I think there's something wrong with your brain if you actually believe this nonsense. The fact that you even consider asking this question speaks volumes of your intelligence and comprehension ability.
>>538944546It depends entirely on your personality type. Some people simply aren’t interested in romance stories regardless of gender. Others might be more interested in certain types of romantic scenarios depending on personal preference. Ultimately, whether or not you enjoy visual novels featuring heterosexual relationships comes down to your individual tastes and preferences rather than anything inherent within the medium itself.
>>538945254He said his blogposts stopped since kinkoi tl finished so probably died as most other jops die when something finishes or just drop out altogether. No idea if he even exists anymore unless he is using another persona. Most likely dead though. Also there is a guy who was translating some moege back in late 2019/early 2020 and stopped suddenly so its possible.
>>538945498No one posts anything good during these times
>>538945253I finished it yesterday. The route order sucked, especially since MC is so useless, there's nothing interesting to see as you play through each heroine's story and it takes forever. They even reused some scenes which made them feel very repetitive. But other than that it had good writing overall. And the true ending was pretty fun if you liked that type of thing. Overall its worth reading just for the sake of seeing it done, but if your tastes lean towards something else (like moege) you might not enjoy it much.
>>538945498I.e no visual novel hours
How many days until Muramasa release?
>>538945217The English language uses the word "put" as an infinitive while Japanese doesn't do this so you're probably mixing two languages together when you see these sentences
>>538944694I think this image says a lot about what went wrong there
>>538945253>no vn discussions all week>not talking about how I will finish my backlog before next year endsit’s over...
>>538945808>not releasing any muramasa related stuff yet again because they're waiting for the next gaben announcementdamn
The only good vn i read was fate stay night. And even then im not sure if its truly a good game. Its quite boring
>heroine’s route starts with her being raped by someone she hates because she got kidnapped at gunpointIs it ok to keep playing the game after this? I’m thinking of picking up Muv Luv Extra later tonight.
>>538945502Rance X TL will never come out before S;G 3
>>538945808December 1st
>>538945253>all week without discussionkek
We love NTR here.
>>538945824>fate stay niiiiiightkek
>>538945472There are plenty of VNs where the girl gets pregnant outside of marriage and she still remains the main character. She just has to keep her child secret from everyone, including her parents and siblings. It's totally doable. In fact, it would work better in those cases anyway.
>>538945824I've read only fate route and it was typical 6.5/10 shonen
>>538945824>its quite boringLmao. Just go back to /a/.
>>538945813That makes zero sense. Why would the sentence be different? Just because put is an infinitive doesnt mean it isnt used like that in japanese
>>538945562Oh okay thanks anon! Yeah it's been kinda sad to me too. We should try and get rid of our JOPs soon. It'll make everything better.
>>538945835You should fuck off from vns if you can't appreciate heroines getting raped like dogs
What VN should I play instead of FSN?
>>538945824>Fate Stay NightBased, now go watch Umineko VN.>Muv-LuvYou have been trolled, Muv-Luv is kino.
>>538945808Just a few months away now!
We love lolis here.
Post white women heroines
>>538946118Umineko (the anime)
>>538946118Uminegro
>>538946118Muramasa
>>538946118Majikoi
>>538945824>and even then im not sure if its truly a good game.It's one of the best games ever created. You need to give it more time to grow on you. Or maybe just don't take it seriously. Fate is a comedy series first and foremost.>Its quite boringThat's why we call it NasuKINO.
>>538945835No problem with it. The MC of muv-luv extra actually gets gangbanged multiple times during his own route which is pretty crazy considering he's literally straight laced. You'd think the writer would want him to be pure enough to prevent himself from being infected by evil but nah.
The thread to ends all threads
>>538945253Where did your posts go bro? Did you finally find another website or something?Why didn’t you tell us you were moving on?
>>538946142https://vndb.org/c?q=&ch=&f=032wprimary-4wf-N48023gjaN48023gwcomplete-denh&s=2
>>538946148But I don't want to watch an anime.
>>538946118Hentai Prison
>>538945808Wait until December 1st...
>>538945903If they had a baby together and they were married, would they still be considered sluts?
>>538946118Kino of The Kinos
>>538945824If you want something similar to Fate but more serious pick Subahibi or Steins Gate.Muv Luv isn't very fun though, you'd probably prefer Alternative which is basically extra plus more content + some other routes. The common route of alternative is extremely short compared to extra and most people recommend starting with it if you plan on reading both since the common route of extra is kind of a slog to get through.
>>538946370He moved to /hgg2d/ since that shitposters are way more welcome there than over here
>>538946378They're so cute...
>>538946118Tsukihime
>>538946370He left for greentext general and now we're stuck with him
>>538946378kill yourself jopoid
hopefully I dream of my sisters when I go to sleep tonight
>>538946118Ritterorden
>>538946370I'm back for my yearly trip down memory lane.
>>538945835I'm not saying anything about muvluv extra specifically. I know for a fact that there are scenes where the mc fucks others while she watches. Extra also has rape scenes but those aren't really relevant to my point
Any VNs where the heroine has sex with others as part of her job?
>>538946142This but brown woman heroine
>>538945824Fate was so fucking bad that every other vn has surpassed it. If anything, fgo was far superior than the original fate.
Any VNs where you start as a slave girl who's forced into gangbang after gangbang only to turn around later and force them into gangbang after gangbang?
>>538946413I've already read Tsukihime, it was pretty bad.
>>538946663>fate was such a great game nobody can compete with it anymorewhat did nasu do wrong again???
>>538946649>but those aren't really relevant to my pointWhat was your original post trying to say again?
>>538946370He went back to his old school after learning how to read Japanese properly because nobody wants JOPs in their school anyway
>>538946678nasuslop is the standard by which everything else is judged
Is anyone else unable to read their visual novels because they keep getting distracted by the pornographic pictures on their desktop background?
>>538946649>there are scenes where the mc fucks others while she watches.Yeah, like in the VN itself and in Extra. In particular the harem scene at the end of Muv-Luv Unlimited is a big turning point because after that he realizes that "all girls are sluts" and that's how he starts dating Chiaki and Sora. He was disgusted by the idea before then, but after that he's totally fine with casual sex and having girlfriends who can have sex with others.
>>538946663>fate was so fucking bad>far superior than the original fateYou do realize these two statements contradict each other, right?
>>538946665>Ive already read tsukire, its pretty bad.You must be new then
>>538946663>Fate was so fucking bad that every other vn has surpassed it. If anything, fgo was far superior than the original fate.Yeah, because Nasu wrote the absolute worst plotge ever made. It's just embarrassing what he managed to cook up in FGO, and even worse is how much fanfiction he put into it.
>>538946664Muramasa
>>538946663It's a lot better than Umineko, though.Still worse than Fate/Stay Night (original).
>>538946382>no NTR tagBROOOO
>suddenly this one anon doesn't post in vns because he found another place to hang out with friends and talk shit about moegekek what am I supposed to do now
>>538946646>ritt erordnkek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYgTfWmQePc
anyone remember this guy from 4chan?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpDmGtOQZkA
>>538946945post more muramasas
>>538946929No...
>>538946649>Muv-Luv Extra does have rape scenesThat's true too. Though the MC doesn't participate in the act in question during these. It's not even a particularly hot scene from what I remember, just a bunch of horny girls getting fucked at random.>>538946679My opinion stands regardless of whether the rape scenes matter. You could replace the entire thing with non-sexual violence towards the female lead and I wouldn't give a fuck. As long as it keeps the same message and structure, it'll always be boring garbage.
>>538946723Maybe if you actually played the OG Fate instead of watching the anime, yeah. The anime makes all the shitty parts better while making the good stuff way shorter.Also, I didn't say FGO was better, I said it was superior (i.e., more enjoyable)
>>538946929Tsukihime is still good if you don't care about the lore or any deeper meaning behind it. Akiha is hot too. But yeah, the rest of the cast isn't very interesting compared to Tsukishiro and the other main heroines from Ritterorden.
>>538946937>muramasa>heroine has sex with others as part of her jobnah
>>538946953I don't remember him at all. Maybe there's something wrong with my memory storage since I haven't been here for years now
>>538946937This. No need to reply
>>538946663If anything, Type Moon's recent works were far superior to Fate. Not even going to mention the latest thing they announced - no one could possibly be surprised or disappointed when they announce a kusoge, especially considering all their past work.
>>538946929I guess I didn't know when I read it... I thought it was good tho? Or maybe I was too young back then
>>538946649>muh virginity loss arcyeah no thanks, i only want pure love stories without any of that bullshit
>>538946945Post your most recent blogposts, we'd love for you to continue blogging here!
Why did Muramasa lose to Tsukihime?
>>538946938>Muramasa: not good enough for me, thanks! Bye!>kino-kun: yeah Muramasa isn't good either; here's an inferior copy with even more garbage! Enjoy~! Have fun reading!What a retarded comment.
>>538946974she does but she doesn't want to, retardbro
>>538946965>I didn't say FGO was better, I said it was superior (i.e., more enjoyable)Yes you did. And yes it's bullshit. Just admit that Nasu is an awful writer.
How can you rate a VN? What criteria should you use to evaluate VNs?Do you go off of plot quality alone?Is gameplay important enough to make it a must-have feature in a VN?
>>538947248what did he mean by this
>>538946965>the anime makes all the shitty parts betterit doesnt doe
>>538946663Fate was such an overrated piece of shit that its fans will defend it against criticism like crazy. They can't accept anyone saying Fate is mediocre or trashy. Even people who read FSN after seeing the movie are forced to agree with them that FSN was great. That's why this general is filled with retards defending the biggest mistake of all time.
>>538947240Sorry, but I'm done. My life is so stressful right now that I barely have time to read vns anymore let alone write posts on /vn/. I hope everyone out there has a happy new year and I will see you guys next year. Goodbye.
>>538946953Yeah but he had like two posts before posting that vid.
How can someone enjoy ntr
>>538946937Hentai Prison comes to mind immediately because it had some really unique shit like a heroine who fucks her own clone after she dies. Also a heroine who gets raped by multiple men and then becomes so traumatized she can’t bear children anymore.
Why are some anons posting here again after almost two months away?
>>538947241because /vn/ is full of fucking retards who prefer tsunderes over yandere and think "dark" means bad
>>538946663>fate lost to muramasa because fate sucks>tsukihime lost to tsukihime because tsukihime is kinolol lol lol lmao hahahaha....
Is there another VN like Dies Irae besides Cross Ange?
>>538947251Nasu's writing is just bad, it always has been. It's just worse than what he used to do. There's no point complaining about his old works because they're already dead. He hasn't written anything decent for decades.He might never be able to return to those heights again unless he goes into hiding from public scrutiny and writes some kind of masterpiece where nobody knows about it until years later. Then people will forget about everything else he wrote and praise him again. If he ever manages to achieve that, he'll probably die shortly thereafter due to having pushed himself beyond his limits.
>>538947284You can't unless you're mentally ill
>>538946663You forgot about how bad Shirou's characterization is.He goes from a weak pathetic loser who never got a girlfriend in his entire life who just wants to help others to being this powerful warrior with a whole army behind him who fights 30+ angels and wins despite suffering major injuries along the way all while talking about how he needs to become stronger to save the world.No wonder people think FSN sucks, the character growth is absolutely nonsensical.
>>538947241Because fags here don't care about quality and just want to bully nasuschizo
>>538947278>Fate was such an overrated piece of shitWrong, Fate was such an underated masterpiece.You're just mad because you failed the Ushiromiya test.
>>538947301That’s just how the world is though. Dark things aren’t necessarily evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXsWUqfRcJg
>>538947304Tsukihime was never competitive.
>>538947280>My life is so stressful right nowI feel you bro... i've been working too much lately.. my body is begging me to take a break and play VNs.. but im still busy at work. So am sorry if I didn't reply to your post or something.. thank you for being here! Have a great new year!
>>538947241I don't even know why you would call Muramasa good. The plot is completely nonsensical, it doesn't even follow logic. All of the characters (with exception of Kageaki) are absolute caricatures that would never exist outside of anime/manga/videogames. And yes, Nasu did a better job at making believable characters.
>>538946518It doesn't exist though. The only thing close to it would be something that actually takes place in your head, not just something you dream up at random.
>>538947240I don't know why Muramasa loses to both Tsukihime and Umineko, though. Maybe it's simply too much content?
>>538947301Dark does not equal bad though. In fact if the writer tries too hard to make things dark, then it turns into something boring. Like Muramasa. The problem with Fate is that its writers were too retarded to pull off even basic storytelling. Its a shame that Nasu still clings to his delusions and refuses to move past F/SN. He could've easily made something much more interesting with his experience instead of endlessly rehashing the same story.
It’s funny how most if not all chuunige were written by otaku males who didn’t date females at all. You’d expect the opposite, since they’re supposed to write their favorite genre which is based on romance between two genders. But instead, you get chuuni characters like Saya No Uta where the MC kills every woman he sees and even the female villain is killed by the MC at the end. The only reason why I’m not disgusted by it is because they’re fictional. Real women wouldn’t put up with this behavior. And real men would lose their balls getting bullied like that.
>>538947241Because muramasa isn't as bad as other kamige. But yeah we love fateshit here. We have a special place in our hearts for nasu and his garbage.
What is /vn/'s opinion on MTL translations?
>>538947509It's not as bad as other parts of F/SN, and it does make sense if you read the backstory properly.His power level jumps when he gains the sword, so you wouldn't expect him to go toe-to-toe with hundreds of angels on his first day with it. His power also increases every time he kills an angel, so he gradually builds up to fight the strongest ones towards the end.
>>538946518I have nothing against dreams as long as they stay in the realm of imagination.
>>538947539>Nasu did a better job at making believable characters.Who cares? Nasu's characters don't do anything except talk about themselves 24 hours a day. They're all empty shells filled with pointless dialogue. It makes me want to vomit every time I hear them.
Extremely erotic noises.
>>538947530The original one wasn't really tho
>>538947375She should fuck her father.
The worst part about Muramasa is that it had more potential than almost any other visual novel released in the past decade. Unfortunately, it flopped so hard that it destroyed its own author career. Imagine how many kamige we could have gotten if we lived in a universe without Muramasa.
>>538947280I'm sure the reason you haven't posted here in a few days is because you have been reading visual novels, anon. We love you regardless. Stay well!
Why do some people hate the word "kamige"? It has nothing to do with the actual quality of the product. It's merely an adjective to describe any VN one enjoys regardless of others opinion.If you dislike the term, try describing what you think about a VN without using the said term and see if anyone else can understand what you're talking about. Most of us here will be unable to decipher what you mean and probably think you're crazy.
>>538947561You're reading moeges wrong.
>>538947545They are superior in almost every way but just need some kind of release valve (the ending) to be truly great. Also there's no good translation currently.
>>538947581It's shit but there's worse
>>538947798But anon it was pretty good doe??
>tfw my dick won't harden unless there is some sort of stimulation going on while i jerk off, no matter what i do or think about, i can't get aroused without touching myself somewhere elsei'm gonna die alone bros...
>>538947561There's nothing wrong with being a manchild, especially when your medium is VNs. Just enjoy it while you still can.
>the game has no endingHow am I supposed to tell whether it was good or not? Is there any chance that someone actually enjoyed watching this story unravel before them?
just bought onigyu, let's rape
>twin femdomWhat to do?
>KAMiGE
>kinoGODS vs kinoHATEFULS
>>538947798I know. But it still sucks ass compared to the remake
>>538947798The original VN is good though.
https://x.com/AnonOfRedgarden/status/1955266268714883967>no new muramassa announcementIs Redman going to announce another plotge instead?I thought he would do something with muramasa lore.Also where does the red garden name comes from? The red garden of Eden?
>ge where mc fucks girls who are older than him?Recommendations?
>kamige lost again
>>538947823>kamigeKAMIGE>KAMI GEGE KAMI>GE KAMIGOD IS WITH YOU>ge kamiGOD'S IN THE BUILDING>god isYOU ARE GOD>y u r o d e s m aTHE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FREE>smug yuzu heroine smirking at you like she knows something you don't knowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJvVzUgYyqU
>>538947878You know how sometimes games say "this chapter is incomplete" but then later come out with another chapter that fixes it? The idea is similar for why some games lack an ending - they'll add one down the line after getting enough feedback from players saying "this didn't feel complete". But that doesn't always happen. You might just have to take their word for it and hope the story feels complete even though the credits roll before it ends.
>kamiGODS vs kusoge
>>538948049kill yourself
>>538948085I would never say that again after seeing the state of /vn/ since then.
>>538948119This
>>538948105https://vndb.org/v5719
>>538948049Make them eat your cum together
>>538947803This isn't true at all. There were dozens of projects abandoned after Fate, including:- Tsukihime Remake (Abandoned)- F/SN Remake (Abandoned)- Unlimited Blade Works Remake (Abandoned)And then there's also the fact that Type-Moon never even touched their next project due to Urobuchi stealing the main staff from them for his own ge. He was like the third best writer ever to work on a Type Moon game too, considering he worked on two of the best ones ever made: TsukiRe and Cafe Stella.
>>538948028Good luck finding someone to play with you
>>538948152i'm playing with my sister
The final thread
>>538948127But we had our kamige era!
>>538947624I think its time we stop using those words now because it only makes things worse
>kinoGODs vs subhuman
>kusoge lost
>>538948104Nope, he already announced two new VNs: one of which is Muramasa related (it will also be translated). He hasn't posted anything since August 1st though so maybe he went back to making art for his Patreon project
>>538948028Enjoyed this so much as a child...
>>538947927>it has been confirmed by both sides in this debate that no one here actually likes Muramasa anymoreMaybe I should've posted that screenshot earlier...
>>538947864My wife...
>kinoGODs won
>>538948117So basically if I keep reading I will be able to get more content in the future which makes the current experience less valuable? That doesn't sound right. It feels more like they're giving me false expectations by not showing me everything first, so I end up feeling worse because it's not done yet. Or maybe I should try to read it slower so that I can appreciate every part as it comes along? Like, if I rush through it I won't understand anything, so I need to go slow and think about what happened until the full picture becomes clear? Maybe that's the way to go...
>>538948152I found a girl already... I can see her eyes behind the window
>>538948095The 2D art in the original looks absolutely fucking awful
>>538947512Yes, if you ignore all the shitposting about the actual content of it.
>>538947530Tsuki OG is great and fun to read.It's also free to download and play.Upcoming Halloween season is a perfect time to play this classic.A problem might be the OST which while great is a bit repetitive; the download is just 300+ MB after all.Other than that, while it's an okd-school NScripter ge, I never got it running on OSMine, OSNPlayer or Android ONscripter apps if those are still around so it must be played on Win or SteamOS/Proton or maybe in the browser.
>>538948028It's funny how many people remember little busters when the vn was released but don't know shit about muramassa despite being older than most people who played it.
>>538948119>>538948369>>538948390HOLY FUCKING KINO
>>538947624Why did you make me wait for months for an answer?
what's going on with vns lately?
Post heroines with big tits
>>538947512Yes, if you ignore the entire argument being an ad hominem attack instead of discussing any of the actual content of the VN itself.
>>538948028HOLY FUCKING KINOOO
>>538948597Little Busters was garbage
https://vndb.org/v21633
>>538947561anon you misread or misunderstood saya no uta, or didn't read to the true end
>>538948629This
>>538948028I didn't know there was something wrong with it. Is this a new translation?I'll check out the screenshots later but yeah, I do enjoy games where you team up with other kids to fight evil or whatever. The idea that you could form lasting friendships during a game like this appeals to me.
>>538948605They have gone from good to bad
How do you feel about plotge where the MC gets impregnated without consent?Like, say there's a heroine who rapes him and then she ends up pregnant and wants to raise the baby together. Is that kusoge?
What does it feel like to read Umineko?How do you cope with the fact that R07 isn't writing anything good ever again?
>>538948605We have reached the point where even moege is too long for average reader
>>538948649I thought that was a spoiler, but I guess I missed it. Thanks for the reply!
>>538948649This, but unironically. Saya no Uta isn't even a real kamige unless you've finished all of the routes.
What does /vn/ think of Aokana?
>>538948641But enough about your mother.
Computers were a mistake.
>>538948840No they weren't.
>>538948649>>538948672That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he didn't get raped by the same guy every single time. It was more like "Oh hey random dude, wanna rape me?" You'd have to have some kind of mental illness to believe that's actually happening in Saya no Uta.
>>538948673The best thing since sliced bread.
>>538948651>Is this a new translation?The old one got patched several times since release. It has been translated for almost 20 years now.>The idea that you could form lasting friendships during a game like this appeals to meYou can form those kind of friendships in school though. But not while fighting against the supernatural world.
>>538948673Kino. But only the first 2 parts are kino.The anime sucks ass though so just watch the original OVAs.>and then in part 3 they decided to add another girl into the cast and her route sucked ass while making the existing girls worsefuck off ririna
>Kino thread starts>Hateposters get mad at their own post and start arguing over nothing>Eventually they lose interest and leave>Thread dies because nobody cares what happens nextRepeat until thread is deleted.
>reading my first visual novelhow long until i finish it
>>538948876kino every single day
>>538948658kino every single time
>suddenly start thinking "wait, what am I reading?">then realise I'm not actually reading anything because my attention span has been so shot by modern media that I need to stop every couple minutes and look at my phoneIs this normal? What causes it? Can someone fix me please?
>>538948641Maybe on planet retard.You are supposed to be reading VNs as a means of escapism.Little Busters offers that experience very well.If you're just looking for the most realistic depiction of life at its worst then obviously Muramasa would win out because of the amount of trauma the characters go through. But Little Busters shows us the beauty of friendship which can carry us through tough times. This is why we read fiction after all. To imagine better lives than our own and escape into them temporarily.
>>538948659R07 will write better stuff once he has his brain surgery
>>538948840this
It’s been nearly 3 months since the last general cleanup (December 1st). Has anyone else noticed how much better it feels lately?
LOL
>>538948649>>538948672Not everyone is mentally ill lolIt literally says multiple men did it (including ones she loved) when you look at the VN
>>538948910Yeah I don't disagree with any of that. Just wanted to clarify what I meant when I said that it wasn't a literal rape scene (which also makes sense why the author would use the word rape instead).
https://vndb.org/v31184Any news on this VN yet?
>>538948932I don’t know but it sounds like something that’s probably caused by being stuck inside an apartment with literally zero stimulation or activity going on around you. If you’re bored out of your mind you’ll end up doing stupid shit like that, even if you tell yourself otherwise.
>>538948673Best VN ever made
>>538948932Yes but you'll improve your focus with time if you stick to it. Also make sure to take breaks between chapters, it helps alot.
>heroine has a male friend who constantly makes sexual advances towards her but she keeps refusing himHow do I respond without sounding retarded or getting banned?
>>538948927It depends how much you want to play it. If you really want to complete it you'll probably take maybe two or three weeks total if you put everything else aside and just work straight through it. But if you don't care about finishing it you can just keep playing whenever you feel like it without any sense of obligation whatsoever and never bother with completing it at all. Just play it when you want to play it, ignore it when you don't want to play it, and there's absolutely zero pressure either way. No harm done either way, and no consequences either way. Nobody will judge you for either choice, because both choices are equally valid and neither choice is objectively correct.
>>538948942>the characters go throughthey don't. They grow from it instead
Why does Kageaki love Shishiku? She's such an asshole. Is there something wrong with him?
What's the best way to learn Japanese without spending thousands?
>>538948887>it's kino if you agree with itlol no way faggot, there are many ways to achieve the same result, you just have to choose one method or another, no matter how good one is compared to others, you shouldnt say that only one way is right
>>538948910No but if you think about it from a plot point perspective you can see that there were certain events that happened to her, certain scenes where she went under etc. She had a lot of encounters and she probably saw or met a few people throughout the story but yeah none of these things seem connected unless you really try hard to connect them. There aren’t even that many scenes either - there might have been something close to 10-15 rape scenes max across the whole thing and the number isn’t that high considering the length of the VN. If she had sex with each of those guys individually that would be a huge problem but she didn’t, so it’s okay!
>>538949181They already announced it was delayed again, what more do you want from them?
>>538948992I've never really felt comfortable here anyway.
>>538948910They didn't say anything was raped though. That whole scene was just "he had sex with me" not implying consent nor lack thereof in particular. The only thing implied in that scene was that they had a fight prior to that which led to this moment happening where she gets mad and doesn't remember things properly.
>>538949170The writer isn't actually saying anything about rape happening in real life though
What am I in for?https://store.steampowered.com/app/3080880/Ayana_and_the_Days_of_Silence/A little girl in a post apocalyptic world...?
>>538949218Same bros...same
>>538948927>you're not obligated to finish a visual novelHoly shit, I'm freeeee!!!
>>538949214>no matter how good one way is compared to others, you shouldnt say that only one way is rightyou can’t prove me wrong, i’ve seen tons of bad readers who read the first chapter of every game they buy and then drop it and i dont think it was because they didnt understand japanese properly in the first place.if anything, reading slow means you wont get spoiled easily and youll remember more details about the story later on which means its better for long VNs since you cant really afford to forget half the details as soon as you finish a route.
Read isekai VNs.
ge where mc kills his imouto?
>>538949243If you like VNs enough you'll start enjoying them when you read faster. Reading slower is just self sabotage.
>>538948927You're asking how long is it going to take until the game becomes boring for you? It varies from person to person. Some games become stale after the first hour while some are able to sustain their momentum indefinitely (if it was well written). I'd say most moege tend to reach that point around 3 hours into gameplay depending on your reading speed and how much you enjoy them.For example:Majikoi -> 3hWhite Album -> 3.5hTsukihime -> 4hKinkoi -> 6hF/SN -> 9h
We need more VNs where MCs get mindbroke by women.
>I know it's going to end badly>VN still has a ton of content leftShould I keep playing?
>>538949221>they had a fight prior to thatIt did involve forced sex and she said nothing about it afterwards except being upset, also it wasn't like she didn't know about the consequences beforehand, she told everyone about it too, why wouldn't she tell her mother? You could make an argument for her lying, but at least mention some kind of plausible reason.
Any moege where all the girls end up together at some point before graduating college or university like in Angel Beats!? 1st Beat?
>>538949215>>538949221So he got drunk off some alcohol he wasn't supposed to drink and ended up having unprotected sex while being unable to form coherent thoughts.That counts as non-consensual sex by definition then. It also shouldn't be considered a crime if we assume she knew what she was doing since she drank alcohol too and chose to have sex.
>>538949140You wouldn't rape your own mother
Any ge like Nukitashi but better?
>>538949440>Reading slower is just self sabotage.No such thing. Reading at my own pace and making sure I understand what's being said has been good for both my comprehension and enjoyment of vns. If anything it's people who skip through stuff or don't even bother reading vn descriptions before purchasing who end up getting spoiled by the game itself. You could literally spoil yourself by reading a summary if you wanted to be retarded enough to try.
>>538949339why is he holding up his dick like that?
>>538949203She has a heart of gold beneath all that tsundere exterior.
>>538949339Why don't you draw your own art instead of stealing mine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzLpXUjwPqk
>>538949465She already said everything about her relationship with him in the scene immediately preceding this one. She doesn't feel any regret over this particular act of sexual aggression, so she obviously feels no guilt over it either.She might not be entirely responsible due to the circumstances of her drinking binge, but she still made the choice to go along with it anyway. The fact she was so willing to fuck her stepbrother despite being angry with him shows her level of character clearly.
>>538949440>I'd say most moege tend to reach that point around 3 hours into gameplayThat's pretty optimistic for a generic moege, I would expect even those to lose my interest after 2 hours.
Why does /vn/ hate yuzuslop so much?
>>538949440>>538949479Buta mentality.
>>538949440I disagree with you, broski. Read slowly so you can appreciate each moment of the experience.
>>538949496>stealingmeant for>>538949440
>>538949503>haha...we're funny! haha....lmao...
What are some visual novels that deal with depression? (Not necessarily the protagonist)
>>538949516Because they are boring? They need to spice them up more
Is there a VN where the heroines are constantly trying to kill each other but always end up hooking up?
>>538949517This anon should read Muramasa. He will find enlightenment.
>>538928929Love Mahiru so much. Can't decide if Asahi or Yayoi is next best
>>538949478The one with the futa heroine?https://vndb.org/v44236
>>538949474>forced sexThe only force involved was the one from the alcohol they were consuming. And yeah she consented when she got high too unlike the other girl who was raped.
>>538949513There are plenty of slow burning games that take 10+ hours to start hitting their stride though? That's what makes them worth it in the first place. A lot of these games really do take time to build up and grow on you once they do because they're trying to hit different emotional beats rather than relying solely on immediate shock value or hot girls. Just look at Fate; it took a long ass time to start getting good but when it started actually delivering on its promise it was incredible. Same applies to every other major classic in the medium as well.
Post brown women
>>538949516they make me want to vomit
>>538949513>most moege tend to reach that point around 3 hours into gameplayThis, but only if the writer actually puts effort into making their characters engaging. Otherwise they will just fall apart once they start interacting with others. And it won't matter how long the common route is because I'll never stick with an ugly bitch heroine until the first h-scene.
>>538949440Read faster.
>>538949746Yeah reading something slow is nice, but I don't have infinite attention span
>>538949797Milk Factory makes me wish I had tits again every time. My body wishes I was female too though
We love rape here.
>>538949478The one without the futa heroine?https://vndb.org/v44236
>>538949784Subahibi
If a heroine calls me fat how do I respond without sounding autistic?
>>538949794No way fag. You must be thinking about someone else.
We love yuzu here, we truly do.Let’s not let the naysayers bring us down.
>>538949513If I had a dollar for every person who said "moege starts bad then gets better" I could buy this thread. There isn't any point during the common route of almost any moege where it suddenly gets good.You're either going to get nothing interesting or you'll get stuff like>fatekino begins
>>538950032You aren't a real man then. You lack discipline. Your brain isn't conditioned properly yet. It takes about 6 months of daily practice to learn this skill.If you still can't manage it after that, your fault.
>>538950052kek
>>538950054How did I miss this gem... Thanks bros!I've been looking for a fun vn lately after finishing subahibi and I'm glad I found this one.
Any ge where MC has a meltdown like this and goes insane?
What would you say to this cute imouto (me)?
>>538949797Yayoi of course
>>538950069>no plot twist kino happens till lateryeah bro
>>538950093NTR =/= Rape
>>538949513I agree but most people aren’t smart enough to realize it takes a while to get into VNs. If anything you’ll likely run out of patience before finishing the whole game anyway since it’s usually around the 2-3 hour mark anyways.>I’m already bored!Then pick another VN retardbro. It doesn’t mean you’ve failed to appreciate moege, it means you’re a retarded newfaggot.
>>538950060"thanks honey"
>>538950069>moege starts bad then gets betterFata Morgana does that doe?
Any VN recommendations for an old man (like 40+) gamer?
>>538949474>she wasn't forced to do itso she was just fine with it>didn't know about her pregnancythe story says otherwise. The doctor told her about it and asked if she wanted to abort it while she was in labor which she refused. Also she didn't even realize she was pregnant before giving birth so obviously she couldn't be against it since she didn't even know it happened
>>538949513It depends on the VN, some moege start off great from the beginning but others are boring as fuck at the beginning, like Tenshi Souzou Reboot. The key difference between them is whether or not the writer cares about making the reader care about the characters or not.
Which heroines should I fuck while drunk?
>>538950367>It doesn’t mean you’ve failed to appreciate moege,that's what i thought anon! thanks so much for clearing things up for me!
>>538949797Karen from WA2
>>538949804I'm talking about starting off strong and having quality throughout the game. Not necessarily anything epic, just high quality writing from beginning to end. If you read slower enough it does feel longer than intended by the author anyway so length doesn't matter much if you have something good to read through.
We love traps here.
>>538950091Fata Morgana
>>538950060Tell her she's right
Why are there no chuunige where mc's gf joins him on his adventure?
>>538950069That is true. For example, Little Busters only starts being fun once Kotori appears. And that's not even the best part of the game. But there are other cases when they start getting good pretty early on such as Summer Pockets, Tsukihime, etc.The thing is: Moege is meant to be enjoyed slowly over time because it's more of an experience than a single event.
>>538950052holy based
>>538950374Muramasa
>>538950374The best visual novel ever made is for someone exactly your age.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaHrXKdDnJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQyqXJjGpOw
Anyone else notice that Karen won?
What an agreeable fellow. Going in, I thought Kageaki was going to be a ruthless antihero just based on his appearance, but I really respect his beliefs and his attitude towards other people. He's very forgiving and always apologizes even for the smallest of things.I hate scenes in anime and manga where the OP protagonist terrorizes and beats mercilessly beats the shit out of much weaker villains. I'm not sure why, maybe it's because it feels like an excuse engage in the same behavior that villains engage in, you know where you put others down.
Why are you so hellbent on destroying this general?It doesn't matter anymore, no more countdowns, no more yuzus, you will have to go on without me.
>>538950406You can read Fate Unlimited Code
>>538950367>he will try to tell us he knows more about vns than we do
>>538950069You forgot Aokana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uUgRqkxGcE
>>538950406Kikokugai 2
What did /vn/ think of this?https://store.steampowered.com/app/3280850/Ambivalent_Savior/>“A mystery-driven narrative with rich character interactions and worldbuilding” - Steam description
>>538950374Steins;Gate
>>538950587she isn't my type...
>>538950465Karen lost
>>538950587Nope
>>538950406Trinity Blood has one.
we don't need moebutas
>>538950572Because Karenschizo lost his mind after all those years of pretending to care about VNs
>>538950069Mashiro-iro Symphony.
>>538950572She'll never make another VN. She'll never get better at making VNs. This is all she has left and she's wasting it.
>>538950374Tokyo Necro
>>538950572I don’t want to see all these stupid memes anymore
>>538950069Senshinkan
>>538950597the guy who wrote it is probably the worst writer i've seen in my life
>>538950572The guy spent years learning japanese and now they're saying AI won. Also he finally became good enough to read Muramasa and now they're telling him it's an NTR game. Anyone would activate the bot
>>538950406Muv Luv Alternative
>>538950572We're finally free from yuzutards now! No more cute girls! We can finally discuss kino again!Just keep reading nukige! You have plenty to look forward too.
>not having any idea what vn i should play next
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l0iL7C8FZo&list=PLfB3N5Pz9t7mYvT7s3355VW_878xvY34E&index=1
We love Yuzu here
>>538950572We only need Yuzu here
>>538950612But I love moege!
>>538950820Kill yourself JOPbro
>reading a vn>it’s a routelet>makes my dick hardwhy does this happen every time?
Is there any vn that has the same vibe as koi de wa naku tenshi-san (kuroinu) ? It's been a while since i played it but i still remember how kino it was despite being a comedy ge
>>538950815yuzuGOD*
We love Karen here!
>AI generated images are not allowed.>AI translated VNs are allowed.Hmmm....
>new release: Muramasa Remaster Edition (English)>all the main cast voices are unchanged from OG except Hikaru's which is replaced by a new voice actress>no change to art assets or UI whatsoever despite being "remastered"How come they couldn't give us something fresh? Why does every single remaster feel like they're holding back everything they could potentially do? Did companies stop trying hard in the 2020s? Are we doomed? Is this what awaits us when AI starts taking over all creative fields?
>>538950660Who?
>>538950594>>538950608I meant actual kamige that were released before 2018.Also I just noticed how much older Kikokugai was compared to some others.
>>538950572>no new games for a while so now people are bored and trying to find something to talk aboutIt always happens every year around the same time.
>>538950812>Muramasa spoilersIt wasn't bad. The first half was decent, with the second half being so-so. If you haven't played it yet then go ahead and do it sometime.
>>538950572That's why you should learn Japanese bro
Any recommendations for mecha vinnies where you pilot a mech suit with your friends/love interests?Bonus points if one of them is your childhood friend/best girl.
>>538950861>Did companies stop trying hard in the 2020s?Not really, you just stopped noticing because you got spoiled on every single detail before launch.
>>538950861They're just milking it for cash. That said if you haven't read it already then just go ahead and enjoy the ride
>>538950862The anon who made the post above you. He said he was going to use gpt4 turbo with vision.
>>538950818Play your second Yuzuge or some other 2025 new release
>>538950861You can't really compare Muramasa with most VNs because people actually enjoy playing them and you know what happens. The vast majority of remasters are for shit VNs nobody cares about.
>>538950812This is actually true for the first two routes, but it changes once you enter the third route with the real antagonist.
It really sucks how you just cannot talk about anything else on vndb or elsewhere without some schizo trying to start shit for no reason. I guess you guys will continue talking about Karen if she appears even though we all know its not her. Just leave us alone.If you had something constructive to say then go ahead but dont bother otherwise because im tired of your posts. Go back where you belong and stop ruining things for everyone else.
>>538950857This thread already bans MTL translation even if it’s done manually.
>>538950818Sana doko
>>538950861>I meant actual kamige that were released before 2018.Read Tsui no Sora remake or Rewrite HD edition
What are your thoughts on Sora being one of the most boring heroines in the entire franchise? She even has less screen time than Akiha.
>>538950861Because Muramasa is still relevant after 10 years and it's not a short VN either. It would be a massive waste of money to make an HD port or remake when there's only demand for 1-2% of the original audience left. Plus it's a 2022 project, not a 2024 one. They're doing it as slowly as possible since that's the longest time window between releases possible.
>>538950874kikokugai didn't get translated till after 2018 doealso i think umineko has the highest rating on vnDB among untranslated visual novels
Why are there no white women moege? Why don't they show off their big juicy titties more often? It seems like only nips want small breasts and flat chests.
>>538951097I'm sorry you don't have any friends.
>>538950910>>538951095What are the good parts again? What did I miss out on?
>>538951097this faggot has been spamming muramasaslop here for years now
>>538950861Because Muramasa isn't a vn. It's an interactive movie with optional text at the end of each scene. A VN would have had way more character development than Muramasa ever did. For example, Hikaru has a whole chapter dedicated to her backstory and personality instead of only having a couple paragraphs near the beginning of the game.
>>538950861No company wants to spend their time working on projects like these anymore. You'll have to wait until the next generation of translators come around. Or just forget about it entirely.
>>538950572That's why you should not learn japanese bro.. Look how schizo it makes you
Holy shit.Wow.Wow.Wow. AI wonAI won!!!
>>538951097Just kill yourself Karenschizo
>>538951127because jops hate whites so much they refuse to give them good roles except as evil antagonists
>open thread>spam isn't even nuked HOLY FUCKING KINO
>>538951107She isn’t even one of the main characters in Fate/Zero. You should’ve picked her up in the OG instead.
>>538950910No, I mean the last three hours.
>>538951127I've seen several examples of this phenomenon
>>538950945>they made the same mistake over and over and never corrected themselves from releasing such bad translationslol lmao...
>>538951107She's a cute girl. There aren't enough girls in Fate to warrant calling anyone "the most boring".
>Majiro Biniku no Seifuku>Yoridori no Natsu o Kakeru>Muramasa Remake (HD Edition)>Shinjuku Soumei>Futakoi>Koibito no Tabii>Tenshin Ranman 1st Beat!>Setsuna ni Naritai! Setsuna wa Nani ka de Warui>Rhythm Joker! ~恋はリズムに始まるの!?~>Senpai ga Watashi no Mousou ni Doujin Suru?! ~Body Touch ni Goyoujin~>Otome Sekai no Arukikata>Amanatsu+>Boku to Kanojo no Kojin Lesson 2>Amatsutsumi Rondo -Kimi to Tsurezurete->Seishun Fragile>Neko-nin exHeart>Ren'ai, Hajimemashite!?>Bishoujo Mangekyou Ibun - Kanzen Wakachiiri Bunkaku Shihaihen ->Ren'ai × Musk -Secret Agent Gakuen->Bishoujo Mangekyou Ibun - Kanzen Wakachiiri Bunkaku Daihais
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjKJXzRZVvA
>>538951097The fact that he hasn't posted his favorite heroine screenshot (the one from Kanna) for months means he was probably just trolling
>>538951143He hasn't been posting this much lately tho... he was busy reading kusoge or something last thread.
>>538950945They always did.
>>538951324The future...is coming....soon.......
>>538951147>Instead of having multiple scenes between two characters, we can do it all in one long scene with cutaways.Yeah because the average person can read faster when there’s less words.
>>538950861The reason they haven't done it yet is because it's a massive amount of work and if they tried to do it in full without changing anything people would say it wasn't worth it but it was. If they wanted to release something that could make some money they'd go for the fanTL first which will probably happen sooner rather than later.It might also take longer than expected due to AI advancements making translation easier, although I doubt anyone will use them given the previous history of companies shitting all over machine-translated stuff.
>>538951097He literally said he doesn't care about people who read VNs outside of English language VNs. There's a reason we call him Karenschizo because Karen isn't actually a heroine in a single VN and yet he spends all his free time posting about her
>>538951367All AI-translated
>>538951324kek
>>538951371Why is she wearing glasses?
>>538951380Maybe if we gave him some attention he'd go back to posting muramasa screenshots every single day
>>538951130You're right anon I really do wish people were nicer sometimes. Maybe if we all acted kindly towards each other there wouldn't be as many problems
Post your favorite yuri couple
Post your best Karen edits
>>538951367kys bubby
>>538951159This is true. If anything, learning Japanese will make you less of a moebuta because you’ll be able to see all the jokes and references. But if you’re looking for pure escapism then yeah, you might want to stick to English VNs unless you’re willing to work hard to improve your Japanese skills.
>>538951097It's funny because all those people who say they love moege also play chuuni kino without thinking twice about it
>>538951371why are you so obsessed with her?
>>538951330Kill your self faggot
>>538951406Why are you talking like an ESL?
>>538951360Yes, their translations are shit. But at least you should know how to read Japanese by now instead of relying on someone else to translate everything for you. You need to stop being lazy like this.
>>538951371That sounds like kino.Why does no one ever talk about this series? Is the anime better?
>>538951371What does that have to do with visual novels?
>>538951582I'm being nice today so let me reward you by not replying to your post and leaving you hanging
>>538951582This. People are so fucking rude these days. It's sad.
>>538951371I'm gonna need you to clarify "heroine" before I can accept this post.
>>538951159Yes, learn Japanese so that you'll be more mature instead of retarded like the rest of us here.
>KarenGODs finally won
>>538951324I thought 2nd place was supposed to be Marmalade???
>>538951394If you can't even imagine what the author meant during writing or where they wanted to go with the story because you just skim through the lines you've written down from a dictionary, maybe reading VNs is not such a good idea after all.
>>538950572Don't give up, the bot storm soon will end
>>538951371Whoa... She's hot!
We don't care about JOPs here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzRwqKbCZUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZqPvXmCgMkNew Aokana OST drops tomorrow! This track seems to be very popular from what I've seen over recent months.
>>538951624Karenschizo didn’t even reply to my post yesterday when i posted my karen edit lmao
>>538951594>>538951594>>538951594>>538951594
>>538951159If you don’t wanna put effort into things you should avoid them altogether. This goes double for JOPs, why bother learning japanese when there’s hundreds of untranslated vns waiting for you
>>538951629Marmalade only made 2 games in the past 10 years (Amanatsu and Aoi Tori) and those two sold like dogshit compared to Hapymaher and Cafe Stella
>>538951653you could argue that any kind of translation would do the same thing since japanese is a completely different language than english but i think machine translation has gotten so far ahead over the past few years that its actually easier to use for non-native speakers nowadays
>>538951371Is this real life? Is this just fantasy?Please, somehow tell me that this is in fact true...
>>538951624They already had the power. They just didn't use it.
>>538951406>he doesn't care about reading untranslated works>still shills them just cause its translated or popular or whateverlollmao even
The next thread starts NOW
>>538951857>hundreds of untranslated vns waiting for youYou mean untranslatable?
>>538951582You're right.
>>538951653The average /vn/ poster doesn't understand grammar. They're retarded and incapable of reading anything. The best solution is to switch to English TLs.
>>538951839Nice blogpost, broski!>but i am too lazy to make edits to shareYou're a /vn/ regular though?Just use VNDB as the source material next time.
>>538951867They lost some power tho
>>538951874kill yourself jopoid
What is going on
The only way people are winning is if they’re spamming off-topic garbage. There isn’t much left for /vn/ to discuss anyway, it’s been dead as fuck for years now.
It's really too bad /vn/ cuties are too stupid to understand how much better MTL is than literal human translators.Even if an AI-assisted translator makes some mistakes, it still gets you 99% of the way to understanding a VN. Literal humans are incapable of making translations that match the source text quality, no matter how hard they try.There's also the advantage of time, cost and quantity - we get a lot more translations done on average per year now thanks to tech advancements, which benefits everyone who likes VNs.Humans are obsolete. The future belongs to machines. And the best part is that it's happening right now.
Bro did you really learn a whole language for visual novels? Just Grok it!
>>538951830JOPs are literally the reason we have translations
>>538951912LMAO
>>538951867They have enough power to break the law but not to take down the government.
>>538951867It's not about the numbers but the quality.Hapymaher and Cafe Stella are garbage.
Any real human here?
>>538951863Yes anon, you're not imagining things.
https://vndb.org/v37762Any news?
We need more plotge with MC getting into shit ton fights with his sword, like in Dies Irae
>>538951896meant for>>538951896*for>>538951896
>>538951984No I learned Japanese because I love Japan, not specifically VNs. But I'm glad my passion for Japanese culture ended up leading to me translating one.
>>538952106That's what happens when you're evil
>>538951890I'm not using vnDB because I have my own database with more info, including all scenes, CGs, OSTs and stuff like release date, platforms, etc.But yeah, if you want to know what I'm talking about just check their page. It'll save me the hassle of having to explain myself again every single time someone asks about that shit.>>538951861That's probably the case, maybe they just got lucky enough to find good teachers before it was too late and were able to keep up with the times.>>538951867Probably true, unless they've changed their mind recently and decided to give everything a shot at once.>>538951879I mean untranslated. If the game never gets translated, then it won't ever be accessible by anyone other than a handful of JOPs. At least until LLMs become powerful enough to replace us entirely. But I doubt that'll happen anytime soon.>>538951886I don't see how that applies here specifically, considering we're talking about something that can easily be understood without any knowledge
>>538951912This guy needs help
>>538952109No one ever mentioned those two being good. Why would anyone read them?
>MTLchads can't post without getting rate-limited because their posts go against our rules while JOPbros get away with everythingHow does this feel, chads?
>>538951984I learned Japanese to read my favourite vn series, Muramasa, and I'm never using MTL again after that experience. It was worth learning a new language because of it.
>>538952130So why do you care so much about this medium?Also, please translate Kana Imouto's route first. We deserve a proper translation ASAP.
post your first VN
>>538951867>They lost some power thoWho? It's all the same old schizos.
You guys realize that the reason why this general is so fucked up is because there are two types of posters?Type A posters post random crap out of nowhere and complain about type B posters.Type B posters talk about vns and do their thing.What's your type?
>>538952120it got delayed until 2027
>>538951974You'd think he would post as a different user after this many threads since there isn't a single day where he doesn't spam his reposted posts or complain about his bot being deleted
>>538952113No.
>>538952106What does this have to do with Visual Novels?
>>538952168>What's your type?TypeMoonGod
>>538951912He looks like a normal faggot from /vn/...
>>538952168BBecause I am also posting random things but they are related to visual novels!
>>538952168A for both. Type A and B are equally bad in their own way, but I prefer type B for the sake of variety
>>538952125Dies irae had one fight scene where the MC fought against another hero who used a sword.The rest were either gunfights or battles between heroes.
>>538952131I hate you
>>538952250holy sex
>>538952168I’m Type C, I only come here occasionally to make fun of JOPs
>>538952168type C: everyone who doesn't agree with me immediately has an agenda behind their actions
>>538952145because they're popular among ESLs
>>538952168Both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJvVwUO9QZMVN for this feel?
>>538951974It's been like this since the last thread started at least>>538939575
JOPs are so worthless now that we have AI
>>538952302holy fucking kek
>>538952152>I learned Japanese to read my favourite vn seriesThat is not true at all bro...If anything you learned japanese only to shitpost on this thread instead.
>>538952169Oh fuck... So they really didn't plan on finishing anything till next year huh.. That sucks bros....
>VN has an MC who's already in a relationship (or engaged)Why did they make him this way? Doesn't that ruin the story completely? Can you even enjoy reading anything if the MC is already paired with another woman? Even romance novels will usually let the heroines have separate dates but they still always end up together in the end. What purpose does this setup serve?
>>538952168I'm just here to shit on JOPs whenever they're around
https://vndb.org/v25485Is this any good?
>>538952168>A posters post random crap out of nowhere and complain about type B posters.That would be you, retardbro. You've made shitposts more times than any poster who actually discusses VNs.
>>538952130>I learned Japanese because I love Japan, not specifically VNsSame but it wasn’t long till I started reading VNs. The best part was that I picked it up right around the time FGO came out which was a great excuse to start playing. I didn’t really bother with Fate games though I’m sure there’s some interesting things in them I could pick up now. Now I play VNs alongside FGO (not the VN) and I guess I’ve fallen into the trap of thinking everyone should read VNs. Maybe if I had kept it to myself I wouldn’t have been tempted to push on people.The fact that I can understand most spoken Japanese makes learning to read easier for me personally and I haven’t had too many issues understanding kanji. I also found that studying a lot helps; I still studied a bit everyday even after I stopped taking classes and it made a huge difference. Learning a language takes effort and dedication regardless of how talented you might be.I think the biggest issue with translations has always been money. There are plenty of companies willing to spend money on games but it seems unlikely that they’ll actually fund a full translation anymore especially with AI making the cost so cheap. You might
>>538952125Kino, can't wait till the next kino.
>>538952168Why should I care what "you" want? You don't even know me.
>>538952125There's nothing wrong with it though, unlike Dies Irae which goes into ridiculous amounts of detail over every little part of a fight.
>>538952168Type A when someone says something wrong or makes a mistakeType B when someone is correct or has good taste
>>538952168i just want more kino discussion and less shitposting
>>538952168Type A:*Posts OP>Type B:*Posts random stuff unrelated to the subject>Type C:*Posts random stuff related to the subject>Me:*Posts both A & C when possible
Why isn't the janny doing anything
>>538952168Type A: Always trying to prove his point while ignoring facts and calling others types A/B/C depending on what suits him the best.Typical redditfaggot behavior.
>>538952415kek sorry I got carried away with the post. Should've stayed in the anon box. Still enjoyed your thoughts tho!
>>538952125>there are no bad fightsWhat aboutHimari vs Kageakiwhere he gets his ass kicked irl?Or Shutenjou vs Kageaki where Shutenjou is getting his ass kicked by the whole army?Shit fight btw.
>>538952130I never liked VNs until I got tired of waiting for MTL releases or seeing screenshots on twitter posted by other translators.I also wanted to learn Japanese anyway because I thought it would help me with music and manga. I dropped music pretty early on due to lack of time and motivation and I still stick with reading manga as well as VNs. It wasn't very hard once I gave up trying to memorize every single thing from scratch. I just watched anime and listened to vinnies while reading along and figured out what words were being said and used flashcards/anki when I saw words I couldn't figure out from context.For me it was more of a "I want to know Japanese" kind of thing rather than "I want to read Japanese-only visual novels".
>>538952168A: Making fun of ESLsB: Making fun of JOPs
why do we hate uminegro
>>538952125You'll never get my attention by talking about utsuge and moeslop. Talk about YU-NO instead.
>>538952397>You didn't learn japanese to read visual novelsNo I didn't, I learned Japanese to watch anime
>>538952415>AI making the cost so cheapThey can hire cheaper freelancers since all they need to do is edit the script rather than translate the entire game from scratch.
>>538952389https://vndb.org/c?q=&ch=&f=02N383Xp48d&s=2
>>538952393You forgot your pic btw
>>538952125>no bad fightsthisthe only one that stands out as bad is shiki fighting the entire bandits in sakuuta
>>538952168You do realize that you are talking to yourself, right?You said earlier that you hate Type B posters, and then later on you called yourself one of them. It's like saying "I hate Karen", and then immediately acting like her.And if that weren't enough, your posts were filled with misinformation and half truths while being very aggressive towards those who challenged you on it. Your argumentation style reminds me of a bully who refuses to admit he's wrong no matter what.
Recent mystery EVNs on Steam over the past few years:>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1249260/Birth_ME_Code/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1228600/Blankspace/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1414250/CORPSE_FACTORY/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1568920/Clean_Slate/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1820720/The_Divine_Deception/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2011310/Entropic_Float_This_World_Will_Decay_And_Disappear/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2058090/The_Game_of_Fourtune/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1338940/Head_AS_Code/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2801620/Look_Inside/>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1271300/Methods_
>>538952614>making fun of JOPsThat's literally Type A thoughever?
>>538952528kino
>>538952615The most popular VN here is muramasa.
>>538952125Yeah but you're not supposed to play them if you're an actual adult. They appeal to children only. If you have to explain why a character did something then that means that VN failed its duty to entertain its audience.
>>538952618>I learned Japanese to watch animeThis. And then i realized that I have a lot of untranslated games sitting on my PC
>>538952616Not him but I'm glad people finally found Umineko worth discussing after all these years. The worst VN ever made will always be remembered here.
>>538952125How could there be a bad fight in Muramasa? All the characters are too strong to make this possible. They're all fucking gods.
>>538952481The fact that she has to make an apology after having sex with him shows how much she loves him. She doesn't regret her actions, but she feels responsible for hurting him and wants to show him how much she cares.She could have made an excuse for not apologizing at first, but she chose to face her feelings directly, which is why she had to apologize afterwards. Her love for him is stronger than any hesitation or doubt.
>>538952593Janny is a masaschizo. He wants to sabotage /vn/ too, just in a different way
masa under my bed
>The end of /vn/ is a Karen threadKinda beautiful actually
>KarenI love
>KarenfagI despise
>>538952614>making fun of EOPsType A.
>>538952481It was the same thing for me when i read Kageaki's backstory about his father killing himself because of his illness. At the time it felt like they didn't want to say anything more since their main focus would've been on the story itself and the other characters, but now looking back on it, we can understand why he took his own life. We know that Shishiku was a psychopath who believed that he had to kill others so that he wouldn't die alone, and we also know that Kageaki grew up idolizing him because of the power and authority that he represented to young Kageaki. However, Kageaki eventually comes to terms with the reality that his father was just a normal man suffering from a terminal illness and that his actions were driven by fear and desperation rather than any sense of heroism or righteousness. This realization leads Kageaki to reject his father's violent path and to find his own way forward, ultimately leading to the events of the game where he takes control of the situation and decides his own fate.
What does the future hold for us? Is there anything good coming up or just more chuunige?
>>538952621>all-ages sloppaholy shit taste
>>538952640It can still appeal to adults though, some stories need to be complex so they don't get boring
>KarenschizoI worship
>>538952778kek
>>538952640What does a child care about plot anyway? Why would they read moeslop with boring heroines when they can go outside and fuck real women instead of wasting their time reading books? Children shouldn't be allowed near computers until they reach adolescence.
>VN heroine gets raped by demonsWhy can't VNs give us happy endings where heroines get raped by MC instead? This would be so kino!
>>538952647It was never discussed here though. People don’t care about shit like that unless they read it themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqWzNpLmYKU
>>538952614Because you can see what kind of person he really is and what choices lead to his current self. It's very enlightening if you think about it, especially if you try to compare your own past decisions against those. It's quite sad honestly, but also quite cathartic if done right.
>>538952829Anon's Life 2
>heroine rapes mcWhy can’t I enjoy this trope anymore? It used to be so hot when I saw it 10 years ago. Now it’s so common it loses its meaning and becomes tiresome as hell.
>>538952125You'd think the fights between Kanae and Shuten-douji in chapter 2 would be better written. That's the one part of the series I'm still mad about. It's basically two random sword fights where each person wins once before coming to some kind of understanding. Like the fuck does that even happen? There's no build-up to any of it either - it's just out-of-the-blue.
>>538952839So true.
>>538952614we do be part of the problem
>>538952829https://vndb.org/v34729https://vndb.org/v37232https://vndb.org/v33185
>>538952772Let it be known that I was here to witness /vn/'s final hours
>>538952857True, he learned a whole language for porn and smarter people didn't. It's enlightening
>>538952868That sounds exactly how it happens in my head during the first fight. The second fight makes absolutely no sense at all.
>>538952834The point isn’t whether a story needs to be complex or not—it’s simply an observation on how a lot of people who are into all-ages VN tend to be pretty shallow, superficial personalities. You’ll find them in anime conventions, idol fanbases, etc.If you’re a serious thinker, then you’d know why being shallow is bad. If you aren’t, then you might not understand the point at all.
>>538952839The only people who waste time reading visual novels are middle aged fat faggots
>>538952829Chuunige will always come out every year, which means nothing ever changes. There are a few upcoming vns I am interested in though.https://vndb.org/v33162 (This looks like a 10/10)https://vndb.org/v50934 (This one seems pretty mediocre but it has an interesting premise.)https://vndb.org/v36201 (I already read this but I'm going to reread it at some point soon.)Also, the new Higurashi anime started last week and I plan to watch it.
>>538952829Marmaladege are releasing soon.Also maybe Saya no Uta remake (no idea if it will actually come out)
Is everyone with a name supposed to be a bot?
The next big thing after Muramasa and Umineko will be Sukebe Elf...
>>538952824We're all JOPs here.EOPs are not welcome anymore after this post:>>>/lgbt/691396378
>>538952614i didnt play muramasa tho
>>538952614If you are an adult who has already made all the big life-changing decisions you ever will then yes.But most people have not reached that point yet. They're in college, trying to pick a career, trying to decide whether to move away from home, etc. And in such cases I do believe that thinking through how various scenarios could unfold can help them make more informed and less regrettable decisions. You'll rarely hear someone who regrets going into medicine regret making that decision, but you'll frequently hear people regretting becoming lawyers despite having loved law school. So yeah, while you may think that thinking about possible futures doesn't matter, in reality it can actually help avoid bad outcomes. The problem is that people tend to overestimate how much of the future they can predict and underestimate how many variables exist to influence things. Which is fine, but at least the effort should be worth it.
>>538952863Oh yeah, I've been waiting for an Anon's Life game since last year.>>538952867Maybe it's because now I have experienced first-hand rape from women. So whenever I hear someone talk about it now I immediately imagine how it feels to be on the receiving end of something so horrible. I wish we could all understand each other's perspectives through our life experiences rather than talking about fictional characters who aren't even real.
>>538952974Goodbye king...
>>538952841Because the rape victims lose their virginity too. In fact, the more rapes there are, the higher the chance of losing their virginity...
>>538952867It's more satisfying when the MC is raped by someone else, not by a heroine.Rape by another man is the best form of rape because there's something extra hot about it. But it's almost never depicted well since most artists can't draw men worth shit. Even worse: they usually don't give him a penis or have too small dick. And sometimes the artist draws dicks in general poorly too. Or the guy himself doesn't look like much of a pervert. Or his face is covered up. All of these kill the scene's impact.
Any good VNs where the MC gets cucked by his sister because she's a slutty whore?
A.I. won, bros.Jops lost.Holy fucking kino.
>>538952772I don't feel like posting today...
>MC finds out his imouto had sex with others before he found her, and she says she's glad she did it when she was young, and wishes she'd done it sooner so she wouldn't be as horny as she is right now, then proceeds to fuck him in front of the other boys who raped herVN for this feel?
>no one even sliding this shit thread
>RobotsTranslating VNs for everyone to enjoy>JOPchudslost.
>>538952952>all these replies to my OPWow, thanks guys!I don’t know what went wrong during translation that caused such an issue; hopefully, we won’t see another mistake as severe as this again. For me, personally, it was really important to get it right because I’m a huge Mamiya Fumino fan and she deserves better than this. As a whole, however, the main plotline was still salvageable enough where I didn’t mind finishing it off myself.For those of you asking about what happened after, well, everything turned out okay in the end! A couple of spoilers ahead: the final arc involved both Kanae and Takuji getting together (yes, they were actually able to become a couple without cheating), and the ending scenes had them walking along the beach together watching the sunset before parting ways. Honestly, I cried when I saw the scene where Takuji said goodbye to her and walked back alone, leaving her behind. It was so bittersweet and beautiful.So, yeah—I would say this VN overall was still worth playing. Just hope for a proper localization patch soon, alright?Thanks again, /vn/. Hope to see you guys in the
>anon goes back to his desk>starts up his vn>reads for 5 minutes>quits because he got distracted by discord spam for a few secondswhat's wrong with him?
>>538953083You didn't read Muramasa.
what happened to /vn/? what went wrong?it used to be one of the top 5 threads in the entire general
>>538952974>He's right btwlol
>>538953124https://vndb.org/v23435it's moege
>>538952614Nope, I just take what comes my way as I go along without looking ahead. No need to prepare for the worst.
https://vndb.org/t22846
>>538953287What do I gain from reading your garbage trash instead of going outside to play some basketball?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyqLzgDfWZMHow does anyone stand to listen to this shit every day? This music feels like it was written to make your soul cry. Why do composers think this style is cool?
>jopshit translated>jops win againlol what a joke
>>538953286he is literally me lmfao
>>538953286I usually have multiple tabs open while playing vns though
>>538953285Why are you quoting yourself? You're going insane anon...
>>538953251What do you mean by this post?
>>538952952>spoilers>the final arc involved both Kanae and Takuji getting together (yes, they were actually able to become a couple without cheating)Oh wow, cool. Glad to hear things worked out despite all that drama. That must've been pretty tough reading through considering how fucked up their relationship is. I guess the writer wanted to emphasize the value of love and commitment above all else at some point. Makes sense if that's his theme. Still gotta wonder why the game kept dragging on for so long though - I mean sure, having two routes means twice as many H-scenes but that shouldn't necessitate adding so many pointless filler scenes either. Guess maybe they were trying to stretch the length as much as possible to ensure sales. Either way, seems like a solid conclusion for the story at least. Hopefully the next title will pick up where this one left off and wrap up any remaining loose ends properly.
>>538953285I wish this wasn't just one anon trying to force drama on us instead of enjoying the discussion. This isn't happening anywhere else. We're all friends here.
>>538953286he just wants to go on vacation already
>>538953292It’s been dead since forever ago and nobody cares anymore
>>538953317you will die inside lol
>>538953294He's right but not because he's talking about muramasa
She won again. Damn. We said Wow.
>new jop threadkino time
>>538953286imagine not having the ability to multitask and being forced to focus on only one thing at a time
>>538953286this happens to everyone sometimes
>>538953294He’s not talking about any of that bullshit. He’s right about the fact that there will be more heroines in future games. That’s just something simple and obvious. The rest of what he says doesn’t matter at all.
>>538953460Her route sucked ass tho?
>>538953296Thanks
>>538953285This has nothing to do with muramasa. It's about how people don't want to be called out for shilling kusoge or posting spoilers. He got angry when someone questioned him about something that wasn't even relevant.Don't worry, there'll never be another JOP who posts untranslated VNs here.
>>538953317ThisMuramasa has too much boring stuff and doesn’t even deliver when it needs to.But it still delivers in terms of themes and ideas so I’d rather watch an anime than read the VN unless I’m really feeling it or it’s on sale somewhere.
Is there an official translation patch or fan TL for Tsui no Sora Remake yet? If not when can we expect one?
>>538953285This is our normal state these days.We don’t really discuss anything anymore.
>>538953526kek i'm back
The JOPs keep winning
>>538953317The whole plot was contrived nonsense from start to finish and it needed better writing. A lot of characters didn't feel natural either, especially the villains which made me dislike them and root for the protagonists regardless of who they were supposed to represent. The ending also felt rushed and underdeveloped compared to the other arcs, leaving questions unanswered regarding character motivations and relationships. Overall, while the concept had potential, its execution fell short due to issues with pacing, character development, and thematic coherence. There's definitely room for improvement in how these elements are handled moving forward.Also, while I appreciate the effort put into crafting unique worlds and exploring philosophical concepts within the narrative framework, I believe certain aspects could benefit significantly from refinement—particularly in areas concerning character depth and narrative structure—to enhance engagement throughout each installment. Despite these shortcomings, there remains genuine appreciation towards innovative storytelling techniques employed across various segments; however, consistent application alongside necessary adjustments would lead toward achieving greater impact within upcoming releases.
Why are you guys like this? Are you jealous of /vn/?
The JOPS (forma de AI) keep winning
>>538953593/jp/ vn general is dead and so jops want to kill this general as well
>>538953585You're literally me lol
>he talks badly about Muramasa nowholy shit taste
>>538953553I love her so fucking much bros...
>>538953593I've been reading vns since 2008. When did you start? You probably started during the pandemic and haven't read many visual novels until now.
>>538953585I love reading your posts
>>538953640>dead and so jops want to kill this general as wellJOPs love their own general
>JOP thread hours/vn/... is getting destroyed....
>malding schizo attacks moogy again
Post heroines that look like used goods.
>>538953585>There's definitely room for improvement in how these elements are handled moving forward.Yeah, there absolutely is but nobody cares enough to improve their game because Muramasa is already a kamige
>>538953737LMAO
>>538953593They want us all to become EOPs and live happily ever after together.
>>538953715That's a child
>>538953781And what a child!
>>538953737It’s funny how we always get people here talking bad about muramasa. It seems to be something every one of us hates, no matter what genre or type of person you are. It’s interesting, isn’t it?>>538953741Maybe I just got spoiled on some things, but honestly, I found most of the stuff that’s usually talked about to be pretty underwhelming. Yeah, the twist at the end was okay—but it wasn’t anything life-changing or mind-blowing for me. I guess I’m not the target audience for that kind of experience. Maybe it works better if you go into it blind or if you’re looking for something completely new. For me, though? It wasn’t the unforgettable journey I expected.
>>538953745It's over anon
>>538953741It isn't about talking bad about a ge but calling out lies. We all know what happened in the past few years between those two individuals and their antics over here.
>>538953715A woman
>>538953769It will never be good enough to satisfy everyone. It's impossible unless the author has unlimited time on his hands to revisit every aspect he created years ago.
NOOO!!! SAAR YOU HAVE TO GO HILL AND GO DOWN
This is literally the worst state /vn/ has ever been in
>>538954063its shabbat today afterall so JOPs are not working
Jannies wtf
>>538954063I honestly consider the current situation a necessary evil. 10 schizos held the thread hostage for too long.
>>538954234>>538954234>>538954234
My favorite is type of story is one where the girl goes with a decent man. Too often the bvll is just a fat gross dude, or faceless low IQ or whatever. I don't like it. It's vulgar, boring and has low emotional resonance. I need deep, crushing despair followed by the emptiness to really cum.
>>538954240kill yourself
Man I only joined this general like maybe a week ago and of course it goes to shit. Now where am I supposed to gush over henpri and the nukitashi titles?
Minna-sanKore wa... owari desu ka?
>>538954308It happens every now and then, apparently. Just join us on the /bant/ thread for now and wait for things to cool down
I hope you keep going till mods have no choice but to fix this site botsavior-sama
>>538954891they would have to poison you or something to fix this site for good KEKAROOOOOOOO
Bros.... Anyone notice lately how AI won?
I love Karen