Rosaries Edition.Store links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomPrevious Thread>>539304597
>>539403324The Citadel probably stole all the water from the area to use for ambiguous industrial superstructure reasons, which resulted in everything ending up desiccated and miserable.
>>539404553Alas (is that where High Halls was getting all that water from?)
>>539404810Probably. Then they shit out all the smog and waste into Sinner's Road and Bilewater, putrefying the once pristine area around the Pale Lake and below.
i imagine you access the heart of the woods through shellwood?
>>539405413No.
I accidentally discovered how to enter the cidated through sinner-mist path and in doing so got act 2. am I gonna miss on anything from act1? 2nd playthrough btw.
Why do people call this a soulslike? Because you die and go back to a savepoint? Thats how metroidvanias play!
>>539405569No, nothing is missable in act 1 outside some character interactions.
>>539405841Corpse Run maybe?
The Holy Trinity of kino bosses.
>>539406005So Shovel Knight is a Soulslike? I dont buy that. It just feels like a vibes thing.
>>539369441>>539369726You mean Phase 2 or Phase 1? During Phase 1 the boss DOES let you get infinite amount of hits in before the boss realizes what is going on. Just dash away on wind-up and dash back when it ends.>>539366389>Also the sandworms used to deal 2 damage, not 1.That's false. I got into wormsways before the patch, they always dealt 1 mask of damage.
>>539406328The blasted steps/sands of karrak sandworms used to deal 2 damage, you are incorrect.
>>539406328>That's false.It is absolutely not false. The animation of Hornet getting hurt even looks like she's getting hit twice.
I wish there was a way to return to the act 2 world state without reverting to a previous save and completely undoing all the progress made in act 3. Even if it doesn't count towards a "complete" hunter's log, knowing I missed boss fights hurts my inner completionist.Also I wish I knew what the different old hearts looked like/if they sound different before completing the mission so I could've planned which heart would go in the bellhome/had some option to switch out what old heart is displayed if you beat all four bosses. Probably an autistic thing to care about but whatever. Banger game though
>>539405413You'd think so but it's fucking not.
>>539405841When you die you leave an imprint with your money that you need to regain before your next deathAreas are more about exploration and cautiously using resources to explore more of an area, so that when you die you can more efficiently get back to your death spotBosses tend to kill you very fast when you first fight them, and repetition lets you learn the boss's patterns until victorySilksong breaks this because they make some regular mobs more irritating to fight than bosses
Do you think there is any meaning to Lace's face being a color-inverted version of the masks in Hornet's health meter?
>>539406551>>539406605Which patch you're talking about? Version 1.0.28497 on September 12th? If so, I absolutely did access both Wormways and the bottom half of Blasted Steps before the patch. Did I really forget about two masks of damage? I guess health in Wormways is a non-issue due to infinite Silk from passing worms, and I died too quickly after getting the map in Blasted Steps to leave an impression.
>>539407193We are not talking about the wormways worms. We are talking about the sandworms that function as an environmental hazard that used to deal 2 damags. The post you are quoting is about the last judge runback.
Is cross-stitch worth using over the other skills?
>>539407354Yes, I know. I forgot that Wormways have spikes instead of environmental hazard worms.
>>539404394anybody know the conditions to get this guy to tell me his name? I got it by chance on my first playthrough but this time he's just repeating the same dialogue and I'm at the end of act 1.
>>539407771If you're good at parry timing yeah, its pretty good. Very useful for aoe damage.
I feel like parry is easier to trigger accidentally in Silksong than in Hollow Knight. I never bothered to learn on how to parry, in HK it triggered once in a blue moon, in Silksong it's basically half the time.
>>539407771Like every other skill and tool, it's situationally good. Generally, silkstorm is great against mobs, cross stitch against weapon wielders or enemies requiring tons of maintained aggression, rune rage against big dudes, silkspear against flying dodgers, and so on.
>>539407818Beat Widow maybe? Or Judge?
>>539407771Better than Rune Rage at least, Thread Storm's still king though
so whats the deal with the weapon upgrade oil? is it literally just shit from a butt, or is whoever is producing the product just some kinda freak in making the container uh... like that?
>>539407771cross stitch > pale nails > thread storm > runes > gay spear > gay dash>>539407912The parry frames are very generous.
>>539408561I would guess that it's a byproduct of whatever insect the Pale Oil vessel is. Makes it even funnier that the Gourmand apparently eats the stuff, like it's one thing if they're eating oil meant for weapon lubrication, it's another thing if said oil is actually beetle shit.
>>539408528Rune rage does a shitton of damage when it lands.
>>539408242Or maybe the enemies are just much more aggressive in Silksong, so the chance of them suddenly attacking while Hornet is swinging in much more likely.
bro where is the rest of the crests? i think there is Shaman and another one and i have a soul item i got from Groal i think its related maybe. i have apparently cleared most "open" paths in the main areas, aside from two in Blasted Steps, just cleared Wisp Thicket as well.btw, i'm pretty sure i have cleared all missions from the wishboards, is 100% of the fleas necessary as well?pic not related
>>539408679Given what the chef turns into, I think his tastes in food were weird
>>539408778Fleas are necessary.There are 8 Crests.
>>539408778necessary for act 3*
>>539408561It is a gland from a "Sylphean Slug", but we don't actually know what the hell that is.>>539408807You think?
>>539408856oh damn, i have 3 crests left then, fuck.
>>539408518Only judge is left, I don't remember if beating her starts act 2 immediately or I have to actually walk into the citadel.
>>539408778this thing really freaks me out
>>539407771It's the Descending Dark of Silksong.
>>539408856is there any indication on where i should go for the crests? i have no clue aside from getting the elevator up in act 2 but i've read you can get it anyway
>>539408856There are 7HunterReaperBeastWandererArchitectWitchShaman
Imagine if your down diagonal attacks had the range of boss Hornet.
>>539409563I can still hear the "EGALEH!" in that silk storm...Fuck you TC, why did you remove that?
>>539409563Aside from jump height, it's silly how much stronger Hornet feels in SS in comparison to HK. I feel like SS Hornet would wreck anybody in Hallownest outside of Radiance (for lore reasons).
>>539409831Imagine a Hornet boss in HK that was busting out shit like Rune Rage and various tools.
>>539409919Pale Nails would probably be the worst.
>>539409919Endless cogflies
>>539409981>Pale nails>Cogflies>Voltvessals>Shaman Crest beams everywhere>Dashes and thrusts>HealsIt'd be horrible, though the Knight has DD, which is about as busted.
>>539409919>fills the room floor with tacks
>>539410196Just more opportunities to air pogo.
>>539404394Why isn't there more hornet r34? You'd think in a game where she flips up her cloak/skirt thing and flashes you all the time, there would be more lewd art of her, but it's all pretty tame...
>>539410232What are you talking about, twitter is full of porn
>>539410443>Normie groid over the top (dis)proportions *yawn*
>>539410509I dont care if you're upset about offmodel shit, the point is you're dumb as fuck for saying there is no porn. In fact here is more just to bother you.
>>539410509Most people do.not want to fuck a stick figure
>>539410629>stick figureThen why waste your time drawing a lithe character instead of something else that they'd clearly enjoy more?
>>539410629>>539410580>whole thing about Hornet is being a petite agile spider hafu>Let's add triple H breasts and a celluloid lard ass that will make her betterretards
>>539410852cellulite*
>>539410852>I CANT BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE ADDING FAT TITS AND A GIANT ASS TO A FEMALE CHARACTERfirst day online?
>>539410852Truth.
>>539410937>Why waste your time drawing a character you don't think is attractive?>Why do people like big tits?>These are apparently the same question.First day reading English?
>>539410937>Call themselves gooners but all they can think of is gigantic t&a everytime
>>539411117I think you are illiterate
>>539411207I know you are projecting.
>>539411321>I am using words I dont understandGigantic asses mindbroke you
>>539409810Clearly Hornet was talking mad amounts of shit towards the Knight during her fights and she had to clean up her pottymouth for Silksong.
how
>>539411595>All of Hornet's iconic lines from Hollow Knight were actually slursKino.
>>539411739here's a tip: look east instead of west or south.
>>539411739Reach the ant boss through the ant area, what a concept
finally some good fackin mods
>>539411878That's the flower boss numbnuts
>done all the wishes>no new wishes showing on job boards>no act 3???
>>539412127Get those fleas
>>539411902>Double Savage Beastfly + Naked unarmed HornetFinally a videogame for real gamers
I just realized that Styx and Huntress are the same species and Styx is feeding Hornet so that she'll grow big and fat for your offspring to feast on.
>>539412425>Styx fucks her and gets out before she can kill himChad
>>539410509>>539410852incredibly based
>>539412425Styx and Huntress and Runt are neat characters.
How do I get in there? There's a secret passage into Bellheart-like room, with a giant bell which is unclimbable due to being non-vertical surface. I have double-jump and a harpoon. Do I need Silk Soar?.. Or there's some other path in there?
>>539412886you can't go there, this is bat country
does anyone else feel romantic attraction towards the thread rakers
>>539413005They're dead, Anon.
>>539413005Nah but I want to fuck most of the cast
>>539413069>60% taller than hornet even when kneeling adn leaning forward>hand drawn from abovewhat is this retardation
I felt weird that mechanical enemies are also Haunted, but then I realized silk threads do not need a living victim to make a marionette out of them... I wonder why there's no dolls and trash golems and stuff.
>>539413069Green Prince is incredibly fuckable.
>>539406070most non flying bosses are good imo.
>>539413241He reminds me of that fucker Prince Sidon
>>539413174She double jumped ;3>>539413241Agreed
>>539404394My home in Bellhart is fucking ruined. It went from kino comfy to having a literal pumping heart noise sound of a memento that I ABHORR. How fucking stupid of them to have put that there, I don't want my home to be a medical clinic with pumping heart sound. I hateithateithateit.Putting music doesn't even shut down that noise. :( My home is ruined and I will never chill in there anymore...
>>539413737>not chilling in flea spaweak
>>539413241The most disappointing story and boss fight of the whole game. I should have left that fucker rotting in prison. What a let down Team Cherry. You managed to make a masterpiece with a few flaws, and this stupid prince is one of them.
>>539413737Home is where the heart is, anon.
>>539413859>Clover Dancers was the most disappointing fight in the gameNo that would be GMS.
>>539414027That one too. But why the hell would you re-use the dancers gimmick 3 times? Especially on a design such as the Green Prince. He could've had a way better move set and unique to him, maybe with an attack throwback to the dancers, why not. But the reality is that he's an even easier Cogwork battle. He's such a pushover, beating him first try in 30sec. In a post-game secret area moreover. I think he was very rushed or they didn't know what to do with this mantis.
>>539413830I bet you let Kratt sneak peaks at you
>>539414320I find it amusing that Kratt is essentially such a shitter in the Flea festival scoring the lowest of em all in all games. Fucking Kratt.
>>539414320be rune not to
which boss is the most fair one without being piss easy?
>>539414287They used the dancers gimmick twice though, where are you getting 3 from
>>539414820kamelasa
what the fuck do i do here?i just found the broken tool but in the main room there's nothing
Eira is weirdthey come to you in like 2 seconds no matter where they are but travelling to take you somewhere takes longer and needs a loading screen
>>539415132they wanted to spend more time with you, so they purposefully slow down.
>>539415020It's for the broken tool. You can get it fixed.
>>539414820First Sinner
>>539415272the place is huge, are you sure thre's nothing else there? what about the main room? broken tool is located somewhere else in it
>>539415132You can skip the loading screen if your machine is fast enough.
>>539415020Do not brick your save, go to Mt Fay
>>539415132they're in the wallsfollowingwatching youalways
>>539414287Twice. Its meant to be the games sisters of battle equivalent to the mantis lords, though i think I got more frantic feelings from the first sinner.
>>539415434that's cute, i bet eira gets mad when you lose or something and just roots for you
can she ever be a REAL girl??
>>539416113she's literally a silk golem, artificially kept alive by (you)r cum
did i unknowingly play a /u/ game into 100% completion?
fucking woke ass gay mantiseswhat the fuck were they thinking?
>>539416113sentient doily
>>539416516The first game was also full of gays.
>>539416113hopefully. i NEED to spoon her
>>539416516there are only gay ships in this game.hornet x lacehornet x shakragreen prince x his broforge brothers trobbio he doesn't have a boyfriend but he's 100% gay
>>539417012There is one straight ship.
>>539416516The game is a feminist power fantasy. Where have you been?
>>539417240you are a bug
>>539417240nah, hornet isn't fat
>>539414820GMS when you're cursed.
>>539417471You are a warrior princess with three moms and a deadbeat dad she calls a fool
>>539417526and yet Hornet takes after her dad the most
>>539417167sherma is underage and hornet is GILF
>>539417526i think your kingdom has to exist for you to claim the title of princess. she's more like a wandering knight or maybe even a mercenary at this point considering she kills shit for cash
>>539417597And that's based.
How do I reach the upper areas of the slab? I got the apostle key and was like, "Oh, easy now I can explore the rest of it." But it only made a shortcut from the entrance to the bellway. Did I fuck myself over by not getting killed by a warden fly?
>>539417819
Okay, how the hell was I supposed to know that some random inn owner living in crowland have a Vintage Nectar for the gourmet quest? How the hell he's an expert on "finer" stuff? Why would you even talk to him ever after he exhausted his lore talk?
>>539417819I forgot how you get the two keys. Maybe some fly there drops them? When you get captured you start some where in this blue circle iirc. If you can reach there, I assume you can get the keys some how.
>>539418109Is there any other bug that serves drinks?That said, I agree that I wouldn't have thought to ask him, and I looked up how to do that quest.
>>539418109He offers you a drink, he runs a tavern. It made sense to me.
>>539418105(me)probably not clear enough. you need a double jump though.
>>539418109>Barkeep sells nectar>"Oh, so nectar is what bugs drink. That makes sense">Quest requires vintage nectar>"Oh, so that'd be something like an aged wine. I bet that barkeep guy from earlier would have some in his wine cellar"This is an incredibly easy train of thought to follow, and the guy you get the quest from literally gives you hints if you ask him where to find a particular ingredient.
>>539418263He's a bar owner. He serves cheap beer, not divine nectar (which is noble and sophisticated, according to hint) or whatever. If it was "vintage wine" I would have thought of him.
>>539418356>He serves cheap beer, not divine nectarhe literally tells you he serves nectar
>>539410629She can still be a curvy stick.
>>539418348>>539418395I remember that he serves "a" drink, I never bothered to remember the exact name of the drink, that was literal weeks ago. Also he's not the only one who serves drinks, there's flea caravan and an alchemist.
>>539418109Also, if you talk to the quest giver, he gives you hints.>>539418356>He's a bar ownerI honestly didn't know that was a bar. Figure it was like a bed and breakfest or something since people sleep there.
Sherma will never be a boy.Typos is the game's dialogue files won't change her XX chromosomes.
>>539418457Its an inn
>>539418483Why do you hate the cute shota?
>>539418457>he gives you hintsAgain, he said it's "rare" and "sophisticated", that's it. Not much of a hint there
>>539418318Ah, I see. Thanks. I thought i was outta luck because I've gotten all the movement abilities and killed all the warden flies.
>>539418483If it was a boy his name would be Sharmo/Shermo
>>539418592Sherm.Shermo would be neuter gender
>>539418592Misha and Sasha are boy names.
>>539418457>Figure it was like a bed and breakfest or something since people sleep there.The tavern+inn combo, or bed and breakfast as you said, is kind of an iconic thing. The name Halfway Home was honestly all it took for me to realize that this is a tavern.
Going through act 3 right now, every boss fight has been pretty good>Khann>Seth>Nyleth>Trobbio round 2>Pin masterI heard a lot of people complain about Act 3 on /v/ and I don't really get it
>>539418647Misha is diminutive for MichaelSasha is diminutive for Alexander (and Alexandra)
>>539418647Going by the naming conventions of hollow knight, this is not true
>>539418683They suck at video games
>>539418536My bad. I'm illiterate.But yeah, I agree it's not the best and that I didn't figure it out on my own.But anyway, f*ck that guy..
>>539418592Joshua
>>539418683khann and the spore shit were a total jokebell beast was decent
What's the inspiration for the game's language, anyway? Some names and words sound vaguely slavic. (Mooshka = a type of a little winged insect in slavic languages)
>>539419042Mooshka and the fleas are basically gypsies.
>>539418716Maybe Sherma is diminutive for Shermandius or something.
>>539418810"O" sounds masculine Compare "Shorma" to "Sherma"Also answer me this, which HK or SS character's gender is ambiguous with regards to appearance and name combo apart from Sherma? If we pretend that Sherma is a boy, for sake of argument.
>>539419149the map nigger is allegedly male so i don't fucking know man
>Sherma cant be a boy, I jacked off to him!!!lol
>>539419042I immediately though slavic when I saw "Shakra"
how come we didn't get to see the pale king in red memory...
>>539419126>Shermandius the PiousI would play his game.
>>539419197how come kh is so popular in china?half the mods on nexus are made by chinese
>>539419243The Pale King wasn't present enough in Hornet's life for him to leave any major impression on her. I honestly expected as much, and would have been kind of surprised if he did show up.
>>539419195https://www.teamcherry.com.au/hk-physical-late-anniversary-celebration-silksong-mini-update/>Fierce and intimidating, Shakra is a warrior seeking her master"her" implies she's a female.
>>539419243It was them finally delivering on the "daughter of three queens" thing, they didnt need him dumbass present.
>>539419272
>>539419272Its a game about bugs
>>539419462That's really funny
>>539418716AlvaDanaEzraIraMicahZechariah
>>539419243Daddy spent too much time playing with his buzzsaw collection to raise his daughter...
>>539419931>Ira>DanaFemale names. Look it up.
>>539420256https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Snyderhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Whitehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Hayeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Levin
my beautiful wife
>>539421157She makes me wish I were a spider.
>>539421157Sorry that your wife is not real
>>539419931Now show me HK bugs with feminine names while being obviously male coded
>>539421802she is real to me
>>539422015
>>539420725"Ira" is short for "Irina", which is a female name.
Is there no way to fix the chef boss softlock
>>539422123https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_(name)you can go ahead and count how many males are on this list then compare it to how many females
>>539422174>chef boss softlockthe what
>>539422208Now count this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irina
>you can down dashWHATWHY DID NOBODY TELL ME
>>539406070>dancer instead of mask/skull warrior, therefore gay>Beautiful.>faggotslike other anon said it's all about the lack of ability to fly
>>539422174Next patch fixes it
>>539422374I don't have to count it. All I had to prove is that Ira is a girly-sounding name that many men can have, along with all the other ones listed earlier. That women have a similar name is irrelevant to the main point:Sherma is a boy who just has a name that ends with an A.
>>539422410You can also dash while clinging to wall, which causes Hornet to go upwards without sideways motion
>>539422275chef boss in sinner's road, multiple steam reports of the boss flying off the screen at the phase change and never coming back, leaving you stuck in the room>>539422504thank god, imagine being 30 hours into a steel soul run and it ending with that
>>539423008why couldn't grandma silk just take dick like usualwhy go through all this crazy shit of fake child
>>539423153I don't think there was any dick she could take. She's a fucked up freaky silk monster. She made Weavers to be her children but they realized she's a monster and abandoned her, so she lost her mind and ended up making Lace out of desperate loneliness. And Lace wants to die.Granny Silk had a hard life.
>>539423243pale beings need love too...
>>539422115A single one. Sounds like an outlier and likely suspect for this reason. Voice and design reads more like a cute and devout woman, which makes sense since we little in the way of children on the pilgrimage. What you read as childish naivete/innocence is actually devotion and faith. >>539422507You can't point to this being an established naming convention in HK though, you simply point to RL naming conventions because that's honestly all you have.
>>539422937You could just quit out to reset the boss, its not a run ender.
>>539423153None of the weavers can seemingly breed well and they're made in her image, I dont think she can reproduce traditionally.
So, I finally got deeper into Bilewater. Didn't reach the boss yet, but the arena before him. I think I see why so many people dislike Bilewater now. Those guys that jump in and out of the water can be pretty annoying. The run back would be unholy without the hidden bench as well.
>>539423603A young boy and a young girl can sound a lot alike, so I don't hold it against anyone for mistaking Sherma for a girl. Blind devotion and faith is an example of childish naivete however.
>>539424101>Those guys that jump in and out of the water can be pretty annoyingwhat's wrong with them?
How do I get to the area above bilewater? There's obviously something here but I have no fucking clue how to get to it
>>539424328you either defeat the bilewater boss or do quests on first shrine where you'll get guided to another entrance
>>539424328you're meant to be led there by a quest from sneedclaveotherwise just jump ceilings to brute-force it
>>539424245I want to hit them, but when I get to them, they back away and/or go into the water. This slows down how long it takes to beat them. I also have to dodge the double blow darts some how when I want to approach them. I haven't figured out the trick yet. Clawline, maybe?
>>539424480>>539424482Only quest I have left there is a donation one I think but I'll double check
>>539424328Find him and kill him.
genuinely, how was I supposed to ever find out about the maggots and sandworms journal entries?
>>539424542The dart-throwers can only attack horizontally, so moving underneath them is a simple way to avoid the darts. The other kind that hover high up in the air can only attack vertically.
>>539424542most of those are effectively immortal, in that they're triggered by crossing an invisible line on the map and if one's dead another one simply spawns again. treat them like the fast gas mosquitoes in bilgewater that act more like environmental hazard rather than a mob to kill
>>539424667>bilgewaterI know what you are.
>>539424572you'll want to do donation quests anywayit's related to the lost merchant granny, it's her second or even third quest
>>539424619Is it that faggot lava fly? I tried him earlier and got close but gave up and moved on to other stuff
>>539424758No. There's a big guy in Bilewater. Find him and kill him.
>>539424961Oh, okay. Thanks.
I just lost 1.5k rosaries in the Abyss and I've just got there. Joke's on you game though, I didn't have anything to spend them on anyway.
>>539424667>if one's dead another one simply spawns againI quickly gave up trying to fight them soon after meeting my first one, but this is good to know so I never waste time on them in the future. Thanks.I've reached the arena now though, so I gotta fight them.>>539424647I've seen their darts shot at an angle, but I didn't know the angle range was so acute. Thanks, I can approach them more easily now that I know below them is safe.
>Load Game>Courier's Rasher is goneWhere's my fucking Courier's Rasher, game?
>>539425316I ate it
>>539425316it's time-based, you only have 5 minutes
>>539425316>Closes game while holding literal cooked tasty bacon.>Surprised it's gone.In her defense, even Hornet gets hungry.
even when I don't think I'll need any more rosaries, it still hurt to go to a fight with 3kI genuinely prefer to kill myself twice to lose the money than to go to a boss with it in my pockets
>>539425316
>>539425316Hornet is a hunter, a literal predator. If you told me that she was sneaking bites out of the Rasher during transit I'd believe you.
>>539425513If you'd rather lose the money, then why not string them up? You get to lose some money and keep most of the rosaries, even on death. Best of both worlds?
>>539425684I guess that's why there's a time limit, it's her sneaking bites until there's nothing left
>>539425316I took one look at that quest and said yeah fuck that kek
>>539423153Sadly Pharloom didn't get visited by a Wyrm like the Pale Chad and get their resident white bitch knocked up like White Lady.
So is the ability to be reborn unique to the Pale King (and possibly other Wyrms) or could any Higher Being in theory be reborn if the circumstances permitted?
Coral Tower is harder than Trial of the Fool. I'm 100% convinced that they rebalanced the magic:healing cost and designed the finite ammo tool system because they thought Trial of the Fool was too easy
Can anyone tell me who freed Hornet at the beginning in Moss Grotto and why she's in Pharloom?
>>539426670Was the Pale King reborn?The only thing I remember is that he shed his skin, turning into a fun-sized version-
It's a great game but I don't love it like I loved HK
>>539426765Reborn probably wasn't the right word, but I thought it was sort of like a rebirth for him? Even if it is just a shedding, can the other higher beings do that? Is there a universe where there are fun-sized versions of all of them?
>>539426756read this >>539423243and also Mother Silk can't replenish silk, she can only manipulate it, unlike the Weavers that fucked off, so getting desperate at her consumption she sent scouts to kidnap Weaver descendants to grow silk for her, Hornet included
>>539426756Lace freed her to spite the plan. As for why Weavers, including Hornet, were being captured I don't know what to tell you. It's left unclear.
HELP ME GET SHERMA'S STUPID LITTLE SONG OUT OF MY HEADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
PSA: It's not Grandmother Silk, it's Grand Mother Silk, she's a mother that's pretty grand.Even though she IS Hornet's grandmother, that isn't her title.
>>539426924They have Hornet straight up say they want her for her silk.
It's refreshing to have a bratty kid villain like Lace once in a while.
>>539427225She's Hornet's aunt
>>539427352perpetual brat though
Can we please STOP WITH THE FUCKING GAUNTLETS?!?? jesus fucking christ.>Let me trow 2 fatsos with retarded hitbox and 2 mask damage at you because lmaoFUCK OFF.
>>539427550Use your tools :3
>Load the game>Silk is gone Where's my fucking Silk, game?
>>539427550bro, your shakra?
>>539427719i ate those silk
Can I freely go back to the surface after taking the bell to the abyss? Or is it one of those parts of the game that locks you in there until you're finished? Also can I go back at all, or does the game end there?
>>539427550Your Shakra?Your Garmond?Your Second Sentinel?Your Silkmaiden despawns?Your tacks? Your buzzsaws? Your cogflies?
>>539427719Some spiders eat their webs. Maybe Hornet eats her silk? We know she eats Rashers, apparently.
What crest are you using?
>>539427795Yes you can freely go back. Yes you can continue playing after beating the final boss.
>>539426914>SpoilerShe'd have instantly died during Act 3 if that was the case.
>>539427795You are locked in until you get a new ability and then you escape. You can later go back and forth.
>>539427864Hunter
>>539427847>Hornet eats LaceWhat a twist
>>539412886From Greymoore. You can see the entrance in your picture.
>>539426914this is what I thought at first but now I think the Weavers were being captured just because she missed them and wanted them back homeas slaves and servants, of course, but she still cared about them in her fucked up way
>>539427864Shaman baybeeeee
hornet is not only electrocuted but also GRABBED by tongue shaped wyrms/worms
fucking finally, fuck that bitch grandmother, in all meanings of the word
>>539428058I guess you're right, this theory is based on Hornet saying she was captured for her silk, the property she assumes is the most valuable to other, but she didn't know yet the history of Pharloom.If she knew Mother Silk created the Weavers and was her grandmother, then she wouldn't assume she was kidnapped for her silk, it doesn't make sense for the creator of Weavers to not be able to create silk.
>Try out the Pure Vessel Explosions skill because I'm getting mobbed by flyers >Every single explosion misses because the flyers input read and dash away from where the circles spawnedShit skill, shit game
>>539428146Add it to the list of fetish stuff
>>539428328Rune Rage is amazing for arenas, thats just a skill issue
>>539428328Those fucks? I fucking hate them. Can't pogo off them, they have a retarded attack awareness pattern and the explosions has fuckhuge range.
>>539428523They're also immune to their own explosion damage.
>>539428637Even though the hunters journal says they aren't and that they're supposedly constantly accidentally killing themselves
>the fleas eventually cook and eat MoorwingBeautiful
>>539428791So that's where that giant slab of meat came from. I never realized.
>>539419272bug people like bug games
>>539428965And if you never kill him they have different meat.If you DO kill him you can actually see his corpse tied to a wagon at the great gate. This game has so many little details, its wonderful.
fucking hate australians
That one bird gauntlet is still the toughest fight in the game for me, although I'm almost starting act 2 so I've got a lot of game ahead of me
>>539428637>>539428713it stuns them
>>539429054>gypsy caravan eating carrion Good world building and helps ground Pharloom in some measure of realism
Where is the last silk skill?I have spear, dash, storm, parry, and bombs.
>>539429227climb back up to the Cradle
>>539429227NailsClimb back up the cradle
>>539424328there is a hidden entrance in memorium. you can enter it from either direction
>announcement trailer is filled with act 3 stuff>it all gets trimmed or cut:(
>>539405841I hate soulslikes with a passion. Quit dark souls after 2 hours, never played another. Elden ring doesn't interest me at all>Maybe it's just 3d I don't likeTried salt and sanctuary. Something like 6 hours in. Wasn't a fan. Never played another 2d soulslike either. Meanwhile I love cuphead and hollow knight, 100% both of them. The difference is how the character gets built. Fuck that retarded stat system in soulslikes. Hollow knight and cuphead have charms that modify your load out and has a significantly different feel. Silksong is beautiful btw and I will earn 100% achievos eventually
>>5394296467 years
>>539429168It says they're protected.>>539429168Does it? When it hits them, it looks like they hold on to their helmet tightly to protect themselves. They aren't moving when they do it, so I guess in a sense it's stun?
>>539429719Its not like the game is light on content, its just strange.
>>539429672Cuphead is literally nothing like a soulslike or a metroidvania though, what does that have to do with anything
>>539405841I've only played Dark Souls 1, HK1, Silksong, and Night of Revenge. Dunno what soulslike means, but from the usage, it seems like "any hard game where you're expected to die a lot to learn how to beat the challenges before you". I think HK1 and HK2/SS fits that.
>>539429943I'm saying I'm not afraid of difficulty, so it's not the difficulty of soulslikes that repulses me from them. It's a specific game mechanic in all of them that's absent in hollow knight and silk song, which justifies that they're not soulslikes. anyone who calls this a soulslike makes the mistake that difficult = soulslike
Explain why Weavenest Atla is a high-tech laboratory. Did the Weaver of Time send it back from the future?
>>539429646That looks like hell, a Skarrgard and one of the fliers in that small of an area, fuck that.
>>539430232Weavers were techwizards.
>>539430232Weavers were simply that advanced with technology powered by Silk. Multiple Weavenests have similar machinery within them. But it hardly matters anymore since the Weavers are scattered and gone.
>>539429672I gotta agree with you, I hate the rpg leveling system.have you tried sekiro or 9 sols?
So what's the go with bug intelligence, Hallownest made it sound like without the presence of a Higher Being bugs would just wander and lacked the capacity to form larger kingdoms and such? But Pharloom has bugs making pilgrimages from god knows where to Pharloom for piety?
>>539430498Zero interest in sekiro. Never heard of 9 sols
>>539430579Pale King was a narcissistic lying asshole.
>>539429090>Boss staggering will oftentimes send it's hitbox flying right into you, and you take 2 damageHow did this get past almost 8 years of playtesting? It happens constantly.
>>539430750Silk issue.
>>539429446Roughly where in memorium? I've combed it fairly well (I think) but haven't found it
I don't get it. Did Hornet really fully recovers from parasite/leech during the Witch Crest questline?
I'm almost 70 hours in and just got Double Jump, how retarded am I?
>>539430897ceiling of bottom right room
>>539430952Fully? No, there's still some of it inside her, but it's weak enough that Hornet is able to overpower it and use its abilities for her own benefit. That's what the Witch Crest is.>>539430959My savefile is at 100% completion in 68 hours. I'm sorry but the answer is "quite a bit".
>>539431086>My savefile is at 100% completion in 68 hoursnta but did you look up stuff online? Some secret areas seem impossible to find by yourself without wasting countless hours. I think a lot of my wasted time was from running around like a headless chicken trying to find the next place I need to go to.
>>539431065Finally found it, thanks anon
>>539431405You will not find the next hiden door anyway.
>>539431309I talked to people and looked up guides for the last rough 6% but I did do the majority of the game solo.
>>539431309NTA but I started using a guide at 95% and finished with hunter’s journal completion in 47 hours
>80%so the game is telling me that i still haven't experienced 1/5 of the game? what is this rubbish? there is nothing but empty halls wherever I go
>>539431086Sorry man, I'm almost 30.
>>539427864ReaperGot it and never looked back because it's great for pogoing and I like the sprint uppercut move and the silk generation, but I still only have 3 crests
>>539431664Holy shit that's quick.
Any tips against Lost Lace? She's mauling me pretty bad in phase 3 especially. Are there any standout tools/charms against her besides cogfly? I'm saving shards until I get better.
>>539430579>>539430652Hallownest being "the place where bugs get a soul/higher state of being" is just an ideological statement from the Pale King and his minions. It makes sense if you view it as an efficient and advanced city state with public transportation, amenities, wealth, pleasure and grasp of higher education and research. Bugs likely aren't literally granted intelligence from "god beings" but rather Hallownest is hyped up as being this special thing that uplifts individual bugs simply by being there. And that isn't exactly untrue. Pharloom is significantly worse off and still has an alive and ruling immortal head of state Hallownest with an alive Pale King is basically as good as its gonna get for any bug
>>539432232That fight is mostly about positioning. Try and stay on the ground as much as possible, avoid the dash like the plague, you can sprint away from the homing projectiles very safely, and you can get 4-5 free hits in when she does the move where she throws 6 balls
>>539432365Ah ok, so the degree of technology that an independent bug kingdom could achieve would be along the lines of what we see with Mantis Tribe, Deepnest, Coral Tower, Karmelita's Kingdom or Green Prince's Kingdom?
>>539432537What crest did you use?
I might be stuck in the underworks foreverThe citadel wins
>>539432714Hunter but I never got used to the other onesAs for tools Flintslate worked well for me because there’s a few moments of downtime where you can get it off for free, and the upgraded druids eye gives you a lot of silk for heals
>>539433063how much damage does flint add
>>539432842Did you get the Clawline?
>>539433063upgraded druids eye??
>>539432232She's badly designed and unfair to fight against. Probably just gonna cheat to get my ending so I can be done with this shit.
>>539433221Not yet
This is my first Hollow Knight, I'm still in act 1, I already want them to make a third game.Should we expect expansions, like Hollow Knight got?
>>539432680Its just a question of centralization and building up infrastructure, and making sure you have workers that know what to do and plan good projects. See the tramway project. Civilization grows from that type of work. Isolated tribes will make good works within their means, but they need industrial scale work or vast supplies of corvée labor to achieve similar results. See ancient Egypt. Centralizing a large population will open up the door to numerous gains and so on. Maybe if there was a natural resource close to the Nile River we could see an independent kingdom rise up to similar levels, but my guess is that "higher beings" also tip the scales through use of magics and so on.
>>539433358Yes, especially since Team Cherry has made it clear they literally can't stop making content.
>>539433358>first hollow knight>hasn't played hollow knightnigga wat
>>539433358yes, content is in the works
lace is mostly fine but her rekka and uppercut have hitbox issues and the uppercut also starts up too quick
>>539433358first game's gonna feel like a walk in the park if you beat silksong first
>>539433223Go find you some mossberriesAlso try jumping in the cauldron
>>539433467>>539433497>Team Cherry has made it clear they literally can't stop making contentOh?Also thanky.>>539433578I've heard the bosses in Silksong are, from the start, plain harder than almost all in Hollow Knight. But I've no interest in that tiny beetle, only tall fem Hornet.
It's always a huge relief when you end the current task and there's no boss waiting for you at the end, you just get a reward.
>>539433519lace is VERY fine, if you know what i mean
>>539433358they already had an interview before the game release talking about how they were working on DLCBare minimum, Godhome is gonna come out, a boss rush mode is what everyone expects and there's already some proof of it in the gamefiles
>>539433795>Oh?Silksong took so many years to come out because, by their own admission, they just kept adding more and more shit to the game. Constantly. They simply didn't stop until this year when they finally put their foot down on themselves and decided they needed to stop and release the game.
These guys are so goated.I was beginning to lose faith in this game. I absolutely hated almost everything after the fist fencer fight.But these two little fuckers renewed my drive to play.If every boss after them is going to be as good, I might keep playing.But if the next boss is even a tad worse, I'm done. This game won't be worth the space it takes up on my card.The last part of the fight made me a bit sad.Everything from the moves, the concept and especially the music were absolutely great.
>>539433795Well I mean Moss Mother's about as hard as False Knight, but I think the main difference is that a lot more bosses in Silksong fit into the duel-style of boss battle, I think the lack of anything like the Warrior Graves helps.
>>539433795>But I've no interest in that tiny beetle, only tall fem Hornet.Faggot.
i think if hornet had an iframe dash like the knight the game would be fine but as it stands its just way too hard.
>>539434091There are some really nice bosses after this one, yeah.
>>539434385bro? your sharp dart?
>>539434513takes like half a second to come out, that's an eternity that'll get you killed half the time you try to use it
>>539434083>>539434067>by their own admission, they just kept adding more and more shit to the gameYeah, I heard Silksong was suppose to be an expansion but they added so much that it became a standalone. Although, I didn't connect that the time it took was more because of the size they created, rather than the leisurely pace since it's three developers and passion.It's good when artists love their art.Thank you muchly, again.
>>539434385>i can't fight without cheesing the bossesfaggit
>>539434760yeah i cant because its too hard
What's funny is the Team Cherry said in multiple interviews the game was meant to be approachable and accessible to everyone and not designed to be more difficult than HK.
>>539435087the game has less playtesters than the original and it was in development for 7 years. in those conditions games ALWAYS turn out too hard because the playtesters are testing shit for way too long and likely in less than natural conditions. at some point you just build up too knowledge and you won't be able to actually playtest anymore.
>>539434914I assume it's something closer to whaling on the boss and not being responsive enough to react to the attackshave you tried just surviving, avoiding the attacks without hitting himMy problem with tools and such is that I get so focused on DPSing the boss that I get hit by everything, but there's no time limit so you can just take your time on the fight
>>539435087it IS easier than hollow knight as long as you didn't abuse iframes and used cheese mechanics>t. someone who played HK honorably
>>539435087Bullshit. It's clear they designed the whole game to cater to difficulty fags. It's like Fromsoft games, they think the appeal of the games is the punishing difficulty and they eventually lose sight of what made people fall in love with them. Grimm and the ultra souped up Godhome bosses were already a hint that this was the direction Silksong would go.
>>539435228>have you tried just surviving, avoiding the attacks without hitting himphase 3 lace has so much shit on the screen i legit cannot see every attack coming quick enough and thats where a panic shade dash would help. she has a black sprite with black attacks on a black floor with a dark grey background
>>539435393not even in the slightest. hollow knight had difficulty, but it wasn't the difficulty that appealed to me. it was the lore, the exploration, the ambience, the vibe. what happened was that a bunch of casual fucking faggots jumped on the bandwagon and got filtered. they would've been filtered by HK as well, but they never played it
>>539435087The bosses are definitely harder but you also have a thousand more ways to approach them with tools and crests
if you threw all HK bosses and all SS bosses into a giant battle royale which game would win
>>539435393>they eventually lose sight of what made people fall in love with themYou're not including Miyazaki's games in that assessment, right? Because the difficulty is part of his art.
>>539435624no the difficulty is part of his masochism because he thinks dying horribly in video games is fun
>>539435624ER is orders of magnitude harder than DS1 because at some point he got this idea that the only way to make bosses challenging is to make them ridiculously fast and relentless with barely any attack windows and constant input reading and delayed combos.
>>539435514>but you also have a thousand more ways to approach them with tools and crestsnot really the charms in hollow knight are way more powerful and some crests just aren't going to be functional for most players. i'm willing to bet 99% of the players either use hunter/wanderer/reaper and then architect to cheese, the first 3 are basically the same thing. no one is going to use shaman or witch or beast if they're average at the game.
>>539435225I'd love to see a full dev playthrough to understand how they play their game and how they expected players to do
>>539435846saying that something is harder than DS1 really isn't a high bar to set, because DS1 is easy as fuck.
>>539436003And yet people loved it for everything not related to the difficulty, that's the point.
>>539435506>what happened was that a bunch of casual fucking faggots jumped on the bandwagon and got filtered.This is how I'm understanding the rage about Silksong. Sales shot up from under three million, over seven years, to fifteen in a few months after Silksong's announcement. Silksong has five million players, there's definitely some casuals in there getting filtered.t. midcore Silksong player>>539435846>ridiculously fast and relentless with barely any attack windows and constant input reading and delayed combosThat's Shadow of the Erdtree, not the base game. Of which I will partially defend, because they had to tweet a PSA about buffing themselves with the scadu fragments, people are fucking stupid.
what the fuck were they thinking with lost lace. this fight is 10x harder than radiance and its not even close
>>539436049Yeah but Elden Ring isn’t hard either, that’s the point. You’re just a shitter. If every game catered to people like you, nothing would be fun anymore.
>people whine about losing their rosariesMeanwhile I feel like I had infinite silk eaters throughout act 2?
Silksong made me realize I’m actually okay at videogames because I only had to do multiple runbacks for like 6 bosses
>people keep drawing bug genitalia in their crotches and using their abdomen as tails, even though the genitalia should be at the end point of the abdomenI can't believe... how STUPID these people are.
>>539436496People don't like to use consumables.
>boot up og Mario>die to goombas>why the fuck is there contact damage>I need fucking iframes this is bullshit >get to end of level, die to bowser>fuck this long ass runback, Nintendo has too few playtesters who are all masochists >I need more HP, dying in on hit is BULLSHIT >GAME DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN MY FUCKING ASS!!!
Lost Lace is where I give up I think. This is so hard I just don't think it's possible in any capacity. Kind of insane they made a sequel like 50x as difficult, I have steel soul mode completed in HK and Groal alone took me 117 attemps in this game.
>>539436742I killed NKG and pure vessel in radiance mode. Bosses like lost lace and groal are simply terribly designed.
>>539436832Spamming quit to menu on a boss 30 times in steel soul mode doesn't give you bad boy gamer aura.
>>539436534Same. I had difficulties here and there but I beat the game in less than a week before any balance patches landed so I can say with some certainty that I am okay at video games.
>>539436832All the bosses have their openings and no-no's. Just fucking learn the patterns. Sometimes the game throws a curve ball to test your panic-suppression, but don't panic and you can always recover by holding to the old pattern.
>>539436534Same brother. I'm shocked people got filtered by moorwing. I died to him a few times but it was my own fault. Beat with no tools with reaper crest I just earned so literally no charms equipped either
Which red tools do I take to the Judge fight? I'm using 3fold pin and shard, but the shard do nothing
>>539437170I'm like 100 attempts in. If I was going to learn the patterns I would have by now, the patterns are too hard. It's impossible.
>>539437061what's wrong with groal?
HK, where do i go after killing soul master?
mfw I lack sufficient iframes to farm silk, without dying, to resupply tools to spam more coggers while standing on the wall and watching the show like a cuck (I love watching coggers fuck my karmelia!)
>>539437604HK is very open so difficult to saydid you find the tram yet? it's somewhere near (((the worms)))
>architect>poison>sting shard>tacks>cockfly>weavelight>wispfire lanternYup, it's gaming time.
Anyone complaining about rosaries is a Tool Cheater.Doing a final round of backtracking which includes buying up the last bits of merchant stock and there is several thousand rosaries worth of red tools + crafting kit. I can see how if someone was using these crutches and buying new ones throughout the game they would feel poor. Gonna need to farm a bit.
>>539435087>the game was meant to be approachable and accessible to everyoneI agree with the other anon (>>539435393) that this sounds like BS. I'm not that good at platform games, but I do game a lot and enjoy gaming (mostly Splatoon). SS nearly filtered me in Act 1 with L.Judge and Act 2 has been a struggle to enjoy with how hard things are. If even I'm having trouble, then I can't agree with the "accessible to everyone" thing.
>>539437895>pic of slaveso what's his lore anyway? hornet kills 2 turkroaches and suddenly he wants to feed her for the rest of his life. is huntress his wife? did they divorce?
>>539438620no idea, he's just a sub in search of a mistress
>>539438441>Doing a final round of backtracking>8 masks instead o 10nani?
>>539433495NTA but I also played maybe 30 minutes of HK. A friend gifted me this one and I have been enjoying it.
>>539437859yeah, one of the first things i did was fall into the deepnest by accident and get a trampass after trying to escape for hours.
What exactly is required for 100%? I'm not sure if I can bothered to grind out the pokedex.
>>539438620Subby man slut. He feeds Hornet because he wants to put some eggs in her, then feed her nice and fat state so that their offspring have plenty of food to eat and grow.Or maybe he hopes to handle that with his farming project. Thinking about it, he's actually not a bad husband candidate. He's industrious and forward-thinking.
>>539438441>and there is several thousand rosaries worth of red tools + crafting kit.I'm still only Act 2 and I don't use Red Tools at all for the most part, and I never lost my coco. I only have a few 100 rosaries on me, and I still have yet to buy everything. Are you playing an updated version? I heard they reduced the rosary costs in an update.
>>539439103Hunter's Journal doesn't count for it, but most other collectables do. Relics don't count but tools, mask fragments, and spool fragments do. Sidequests count but not the generic courier quests.
>>539436496That has been my only complaint, is the high-stakes runbacks.t. still in act 1BUT. Despite being traumatized into running back to Bellhart every time I can afford to string a rosary necklace, gaining access to Bellhart cleared up any concerns over losing loose rosaries. I got a shit-load from turning in relics, allowing me to fully buyout the trader's stock. So even though the rosaries I lost were from nodes, I think I understand that team cherry isn't so cruel to completely deny me a means to afford items.t. anti-farmer
>>539437450I beat her in like 25 minutes using wanderer. If you’re really having trouble, I think you can kill her final phase from full hp using nothing but cogflies as long as you save them up
>>539439343Do memory lockets count? I guess they are tied to a final upgrade with Eve? I'm missing 1 silk skill or whatever they're called.
I'm probably just gonna farm for maybe 30-40 minutes at some point just to make sure I can afford everything. Maybe the values changed were more permissive but I feel like I can mostly afford everything
>>539439467Memory lockets don't count. Using them does progress the Eva upgrades. You will need to find the last Silk Skill.
>>539431670Half the game is behind breakable walls.
>>539439541That's what I did, it really wasn't so badThere's a handy dandy charm that gives increased rosaries in a secret shop in the blasted steps, if you've got wings.
>>539439541you're only truly starved in the very early game, or in act 2 if you die to last judge and fail the runback (you'll likely have 1.5k+ rosaries by then and little to spend it on)you can farm like 200 rosaries / minute by act 2
it feels weird knowing i might not play another game these fuckers make in my lifetime.
>>539440005Note that if you use this charm, make sure you don't get hit, or if you do, have only a few rosaries on you. Hits will make you lose 3.5% of your rosaries.
Just finished 100%-ing Silksong with true ending. I've been avoiding spoiler so I legit did not expect the knight would make cameo during the ending, that is REALLY awesome
I'm missing one single spool this is going to be impossible to find
>>539440523The OP has an interactive map.
I like Beast crest moveset but is there even a build that makes it not retarded to play on exploration? The 2 tools without poison imbue feels useless. It seems like I'll be stuck playing Wanderer at this point..
>>539440352How long did lost lace take you?
>>539441421I like to be silly and use the flea drink + the flint thing on beast crest. It's damage + spd. I hear the poison + flea drink makes you trail a poison cloud too.
>>539441679about one hour, I guess
>>539441709Where do I get the flint thing? I only got the flea brew. Is the increase attack and damage taken worth for beast crest?
>>539441889Flintstone is in Deep Docks as the name implies. You either unlock the door with a key or go though the breakable wall on the other side from Far Fields. You need clawline though, and maybe double jump.I don't use the barbed bracelet. Enemies will do 2 or 4 (or 6, I guess) damage now, and you only get like 20 - 25% damage increase.Well, the wiki says it's 50% now, so I'm not sure.
>>539441889>flint thingDeep docks
If the goal is to dump pilgrims into the underworks and turn them into slave labor then why lock the gate behind a fight with a judge?
>>539442661Judge blocks those that aren't worthy. Some may come to work, but that doesn't mean they're right for it. Sherma? Yeah, seems like he'd make a good slave. The bartender or Frey? Nah, too crafty.(I don't actually know. I'm still Act 2 and hoping to avoid spoilers.)
The difficulty of the bosses I think it's nice and it's fun to learn their patterns, but more than the runbacks, having to fight gauntlets before the boss, and then having to do it all over again if you die is so annoying. It's not even that hard it's just a waste of your time, and boy act 3 loves this bs.
What's a good tool to just instantly fuck fliers? Longpin? Three pin?
>>539443389>and then having to do it all over again if you die is so annoyingOh, no. I haven't reached anything like that besides the High Halls gauntlet. I don't want to do a boss + gauntlet t-t Really takes the fun out of fighting and learning the boss.
>>539443389>having to fight gauntlets before the boss, and then having to do it all over again if you dieThat's a sign of a game designer that's out of ideas as to how to make something challenging so he resorts to just making it obnoxious and time wasting.
>good bosslongclaw hunter, no tools>bad bosspoison hunter, cogflies and tack/bomb>abhorrent bosspoison architect, cogflies, tack/bomb, and rosary cannon
>cornifer represents an intelligent white man who studied cartography and is actually passionate about his work>shakra is supposed to be a brown le heckin independent woman, doesn't actually care about maps>her backstory implies being a member of some african jungle tribeIt's a subtle way of shoving DEI into your game but it's still DEI nonetheless. Very sad to see.
>>539443389>having to fight gauntlets before the bosswhat bosses have those?you have groal which is medium difficulty, you have coral tower which has a very long gauntlet but the boss is a total bitch, and... that's about it?
>>539444008Karmelita has a gauntlet but it's a small one, it's basically a few leg stretches before the mad sprint that is Karmelita herself.
>>539444008Karmelita and Crawfather have it too. I did those and the coral tower back to back to that probably added to my frustration. But as I said the gauntlets aren't that hard, and not as long as the high halls one, but it's still an annoyance when you're trying to learn the boss.
>>539443389Just don't die.
I finally got a quest where your tools doing different types of damage matters. That's really neat and I've been waiting for it all game. I hope it's more than just this one quest.
fast travel removed lifeblood too damn
How people get filtered by this game? I admit it, I'm a secondaryfag who only played HK for a few minutes, but I'm already halfway act 2 with several boss beaten. Just unironically git gud.
>>539445380How did you feel about Last Judge?
Looks like I finally found the use for Weavelight.
>>539445380Because this game has gotten mass normie attention from people who were raised in an era of NO PLATFORMERS AND NO COLLECTATHONS EVER.
>>539444003>shakra is supposed to be a brown le heckin independent woman, doesn't actually care about mapsBest guess for me is that she's military - doing all these observations and laying the groundwork for future operations.She's military intelligence, a fucking spying saboteur
>>539445380>during the boss"AAARRRGHHH">after the boss"its easy who would find it hard olololo"Typical Steam Discussions user.
i was incredibly shocked to hear people were struggling with sister splinter and moorwingsister fucking splinter?the one with the VERY obvious ONE-TWO-THREE attack pattern?
Do tools do more damage with architect or is it special because it just gives you more to use at a time?
>>539446794I do that
>>539445512Rather easy, I only died once because I didn't knew it had fire attacks, so I just equipped the heat bell to mitigate the damage. Reaper's crest helps to make precise pogo attacks and it gives you enough attack windows to charge silk. Just don't be a desperate nigger and watch for the pattern.
>>539446893sister splinter isn't the problem. The wooden meat-grinder dudes she summons are.
>>539447182wasnt even remotely a problem with the glorious power of reaper pogo, silk steal, and silk spear
>>539446998>Reaper's crest
Yellow tools are so fucking useless jfc
>>539447360Magnetite dice kino
>>539446998>precise pogo attacksHunter is precise pogo attacks. Reaper is basically short-range AoE pogo.
>>539447463Yeah I don't like it. Also has a weird slow-fall effect
>>539447463nta but that wasnt my experience at all. i found reaper easiest to land by far
>>539447360>He does not do hitless run with Barbed Bracelet.
>>539447598It's easier because it's AoE. Reaper is sweeping attack, Hunter is spear attack.
>bench to go down do the abyss>easy to dodge attack that conveniently clears the screen of toolsI see what you did there, I just can't see anything on phase 3
There's an option to disable Hornet's voice but why would you?NAAOOOOO!
>>539447863still wonder why they labelled it "Hero Voice" and not "Hornet Voice"
>>539447863I disabled it an hour in because it's too loud. Wish there was a volume slider for it instead of on/off
Lewd mods for Silksong when?
>>539446893I had way more troubles with the big fly, that fucking boss with its annoying pattern and the adds. If it spawned 2 big ones it was usually a dead end.
>>539448227I'm gonna wait for a prison mod and then add little boobs and a bigger butt to the sprites
>>539448289>If it spawned 2 big ones it was usually a dead end.This was my main problem with it. The boss arena feels almost like its too small for this sort of DPS check so early. 2 big guys can fully lock you out of dodging due to the room's tiny size. Beast Fly 2 is significantly easier despite the "floor is lava" gimmick, since the boss arena is so large.
>>539447463With reaper you have more control with the space you want to pogo, unlike with hunter where a wrong press can send you tumbling down while doing a parkout.
>>539428523this is one of the times in the later-game where i went back to Reaper for awhile, its upward sweep charge attack is perfect for these fucks when you have to fight them in masse in the lower portions of deep docks
>>539446998>Reaper's crest helps to make precise pogo attacksYou were pogoing L.Judge? How? She's huge.>>539447182>The wooden meat-grinder dudes she summons are.This I can understand for those that aren't so good at games. They surprised me as well. Didn't think this early boss would spawn 2 double-mask damage mobs in the middle of her fight.
>>539428523I just.. went under them?And any other enemy throwing shit at you. There's nothing they can do
>>539448670The gay sweep attack she does in phase 2, just pogo and land several hits while she recovers.
Trobbio boyfriend
>>539448484>2 big guys can fully lock you out of dodging due to the room's tiny size.If they come near you, move towards it, and hit it. It stops there to do it's whirly thing allowing you to keep some space.My needle was upgraded (+1) when I did that fight though.>>539448748I see. I was too cautious to try something like that.
>>539446794I do that, but I also found Last Judge easyGood bosses, even hard ones, get easy as you fight them, that's part of what makes them good, you learn them and can counter every move.It took me 4 attempts to beat Judge, and I loved every one of them
>>539448227>>539448468How hard would it even be to mod Silksong into a full on porn game? You'd need to ad some new animations and scenes with matching artstyle at least, however some of the mechanics like the enemies that pounce and grab you are already basically shit you see in h-games.Given that the dialogue in the game is in just text and the babbling of the bugs adding more content in such interactions would probably be pretty straightforward.
>Nabbed by stinky fish creature>Nibbled on for 2 mask damage>Also forcibly dunked into maggot waterMade me laugh the first time it happened.
I fucking hate these gay ass gauntlets. Fucking all of them. Cancerous game design.
>>539449169>Good bosses, even hard ones, get easy as you fight themEventually I could basically dance around Phantom. But maybe because my fighting style sucked ("main focus on dodge, secondary focus on getting a few singular hits in"), the fight was way, way long.
>>539449373Gid gud, just hit them when they attempt the meele attack.
>>539449373Bro? Your pogo?
>>539449235it's just not the kinda of game one of those mods would be made, like how stardew valley barely has those despite being probably the most played indie of all timeI don't know how it happens really
>>539449545>>539449578I did. I still fucking hate them.
>>539449373In HK arenas were definitely 1000% easier, you had to try to die to them (unless it's martial artist arena). In Silksong they're the same difficulty as bosses. Some bosses even easier.
>Nameless townWhat kind of god bug ruled over the surface?
>>539449664Man where the hell do I go next
I finally have Longclaw. Which crest really benefits the most from it? I'm assuming wanderer?
>>539449794Nameless King
>>539449794Probably none
>>539449597We just have to hope that there is some autistic enough of a bugfugger to commit to such a mod project.
>>539445189>lifebloodThere are multiple secrets relating to thisOne of my favorite things is how the games drops loads of hints about it being a sequel in optional dialogue, until it spells it out directly at the end of act 2/start of act 3
I don't know if I'm just unlucky, but the dice almost never blocks a hit, it takes so long that I even forget I have it on when it actually does block something.
>>539449969up, into choralyes the zone is absolutely enormous
>>539448468>little boobs and a bigger butttasteful. slightly bigger butt, made for jumping.
Why do so many people shill this mossbag lore video? Its gotta be the unfunniest shit I've ever seen, and I've seen the whole of Seinfeld. Just give us the lore, retard.
>>539449969When in doubt just either go up, or hug the map limits searching for fake walls.
>>539450595Yes I remembered there was a nother smaller gauntlet I hadn't done yet
>watching Gigi Murin play silksong now that I've finished itwho /comfy/ here
>>539450806>>539450957>shilling e-celeb trashgo back
>>539451110please kill yourself reactionary troglodyte
>>539450595>>539450903Is this the exit?Is the area above even worse?
>>539451273>Is this the exit?what do you think?>Is the area above even worse?it big
Need marriage with Lace
>>539451110Gigi is maybe one of three funny women to ever walk the earth, go fuck yourself
I love this robot so much. I wish I can play as it
so why exactly did Hornet do anything in the Silksong story? The Knight is a core piece of the Hollow Knight story but it honestly seems like Hornet is just tangential to Silksong. Like afaik her only reason for confronting GMS is revenge for her kidnapping.
>>539451374She's a child you sick fuck
>>539451568I can wait
why does steel soul mode have new shit but not that much?it has one new boss, which is obviously a small easy one, it has a new npc to buy up your useless silkeaters, but it also has a reusable shell shard item that gives unlimited shell shards but takes time to regenerate and has a new charm that gives you even more tool space
>>539451568wrong
>>539451552>so why exactly did Hornet do anything in the Silksong story?after being kidnapped she decided to go on a revenge trip and trim the population of pharloom by 90%unsatisfied with the result she unleashed a WMD to void what's left
>>539451552The initial reason was because she knew if she just left they would keep coming for her so she decided to take it out at the source. But, as she traveled the lands and met the people, she began to genuinely feel compassion for the residents so she wanted to help them out, especially after the void fuckup
I think I finally realized why I prefer HK to SS at least in terms of atmosphereThe setting in SS is too urban, too industrial, too human. HK was more wilderness and forests and shit, felt comfier
all the hollow nest is infested with orange fanta, I have yet to find the npc that upgrade the nail, and nosk just killed me after a 30 minutes long fight. Did I fuck it up?
>>539451552You DID get the extra dialogue when you try to leave Pharloom via blasted sands, right? She tells you.
Are there any other gods in Pharloom? HK had Unn, Pale King, White Lady, Grimm, Radiance but Silksong really only has GMS no?
>>539452013>Did I fuck it up?yesgo left in city of rain for upgrades, you should've had it for a while now
>>539452181whatever the hell that thing that came from the witch curse is also a higher being. Also father of the flame, I guess?
What the fuck is the point of the garama button?
>>539452217I even have one of the minerals to upgrde the sword, but I couldnt find the guy
>>539452436>already killed lost kin >only 1/6 of upgrade mats found>didn't find nailsmith eitheryou may need glasses, sis
>>539452419>He doesn't taunt his enemiesPleb.
>>539452580uh? how was I supposed to know I have throw myself to the abyss at the beginning of the city?
Well at least Coral Chambers looks pretty and has nice musicIt's almost a pleasant place
>>539451984SS world is still alive and still has a system of government, this is true
>get the gay heart>now my comfy home just has the sound of loud ass heartbeats all the timewhat the FUCK
>Hero's call>see the bug near the station>Lost Garmond>Zaza... let us rest a little... And then we'll be away...Actually cried
I can't buy any flea map even though I saw them for sale before, and I can only see one marked flea on the whole map, does this mean I already caught all the other fleas?
>>539452869Wow this place really showers you in rosary balls huh
In the Putrified Ducts, in the area with the giant body of water and harp that gives vague spider lore, is there anything more than just the one item at the far end? It feels like a big area that required an annoying section to get through that should have more impact than just one non-essential item.
Checked on some Moorwing fights on youtube (pre nerf) and the only appreciable difference between those and what I experienced is that Moorwing appears to float higher up as a baseline, between attacks. Other things are identical. Timing for attacks are the same
>>539433358i'd say there's a literal 0% chance there won't be major dlc, at the very, VERY least there will definitely be a godhome-adjacent boss rush / boss practice mode
>>539454764talk to the fleas, and beside that, there's a really late-game quest
>>539454939Oh, the fleas move there eventually? That makes more sense. It's a giant empty space without them.
>Reached Father of the Flame>Tired of this constant jumping, and finally decided to give up my no Red Tools run.>"Those cog machine things look like they'd be perfect for this. Let's do that poison thing the anons talked about for good measure lol">They don't attack himTime for a break.
>>539432232Try using Chakra's Rings to blast her when she tries zoning you. Stay in the air as much as you can and only attack when safe, its a much more patient part of the fight.>>539433337Skull issue
The fact that pogo recovery has no iframes AND that it has a fixed distance (instead of keep going until releasing the button) is pissing me off >bounce off judge>she stands up in the middle of my animation >eat 2 dmg for fun>miss by 1 pixel>hornet just stops in the air>eat 2 dmg for fun
>stocked up on all the rosaries and shards with cheatenginenow i can play
>>539444003Both games are woke so I'm not sure why you even played either.
>Cogflies survive room transitionsBASED BASED BASED
>>539456049will be gone in the next patch
>>539430652I think it was also a tactic to cover up the existence of the Radiance
>>539447926Playable Lace soon
>>539455987Can't blame you for shards. The amount of flying enemies in the game is obscene and they're a serious annoyance without tools. Interrupting learning bosses and having to spend 15-30 minutes to farm for shards is also bullshit and you're better off backing up your save and restoring if you get low on shards.
>>539455461HAHA! I did the exact same thing the other day and I just ended up using no tools to finish him, with two useless cogflies buzzing around me. Thankfully he's one of the easiest bosses in the game.
>>539453860I was not happy about that quest...we should be able to adopt Zaza and take them to our bellhome...
the Widow fake out death should be longera t least two or three seconds to really give the player the impression that they've won, like with the monkey in sekiro
One thing I really like about this game is how much more involved parrying is compared to Hollow Knight 1. In the first game it felt like a very underutilized mechanic, but in Silksong there are tons of enemies that actively encourage you to parry them. Shit's cool.
>>539451552>seems like Hornet is just tangential to SilksongSilksong's plot is much better than Ori 2. At least Pharloom is her mother's homeland, and she didn't become a tree for sake of strangers she never met. Ori 2 doesn't make much sense, why we should care about this literally-who land enough to sacrifice a player character (who's unrelated) to it.
>>539456623It still gets plenty of people and I'm already speedrunning the game, no thanks
>>539456302Instead of farming shards, farm rosaries to buy shard bundles with.
>>539456302>backing up your save and restoring if you get low on shardsThis is what I do
>>539456684>tripple parrying First Sinner as she was clawing at meYeah it feels great
>>539406070Lost Lace, despite being a lazy reskin, is better than Karmelita imo
>>539456781That will still take at least 15 minutes to go to the bead farming spot, run to the shard vendor, and run back to whatever boss.
>>539406070>Karmelitaabsolutely>First Sinneryes>Cogwork Dancerseh... I feel like it's a bit easier compared to the other two. I personally prefer Seth and Second Sentinel
>>539457193Yes, and it's still much faster than farming shards by killing niggas
>>539456131Radiance is something meant to be stamped out. Totally antithetical to Pale King's goals and in general a destructive nuisance.
>>539451984Generally speaking I just prefer the blue, comfier, rainy atmosphere of Hollow Knight compared to the golden, harsh and robust atmosphere of Silksong.
>>539457253>a bit?Just a bit? I had to kill them twice because Steam didn't register the achievement the first time and first tried them each. I would not be upset if TC increased the speed of their second phase and their hitbox range.
>>539456049cogflies survive fast travel, but they for some reason lose the poison?
This game really needs Pantheons or an equivalent soon. So many fun bosses but I can't fight them again, and to make matters worse, it invalidates a lot of the later crests like Witch and Shaman because you don't get them until you've killed most of the bosses in the game.
>>539457253>eh... I feel like it's a bit easier compared to the other twoA boss being hard doesn't make it a good boss.
>>539457434That was similar to my first thoughts as soon as I started SS.>Hornet wakes up.>"Oh, it's green instead of blue. Meh."
Worst runback? Watcher at the Edge, holy fuck couldn't they have added a little rock to rest right before? It's not like it'd ruin the place
>>539436832Lost Lace goes from hard to extremely fun once you stop trying to sprint up to her to do damage and you just harpoon straight to her, letting you get 2 hits off. I'm able to consistently kill her now with this method and just laying into her with Wanderer.
>>539456154>cute Lace sounds on demandone can hope
the difference in dps between wandered and jugger is insane to the point that wanderer more than makes up for the jugger's extra orbs the only issue is no slowmo pogo and extra short range to the point I was struggling to kill some boss' ads while with jugger I cleaned them up without losing a single hp
>>539457968>jugger what the fuck are you babbling about?
>>539457821who and where
So... how the hell do you fight Void? As people live and die, they generate regrets, regardless of how kind and wise and the leader is. Regret is Void, and it accumulates. It does not dissipate. Eventually the void level would reach your lowest floors, and would start to poison your citizens.Move to another planet?..
>>539458230Just kick it in the balls
>>539458123meant to write reaper, idk why I thought it was "juggernaut"coz it was slow and hit "hard"? I guess.
>>539458123They might be playing the game in another language and mean Reaper? I don't know. And yeah, crests have trade offs and different strengths that aren't fully obvious if all you care about is needle attack speed.
The more I play the more I feel like every crest other than the one you start with is bait. I'm starting to feel the same for tools, the floating spike thing is just too strong.
>>539458391I mean, every crest is insane compared to the worst crest in the game.
>>539458230Drop nuclear bombs of cleansing light into it occasionally
>>539458146guy that gives a memento, act 3 in sands of karak, you gotta do a whole fucking parkour sessionhe's easy, but you gotta learn his moves still because they're massive hitboxes and even though it's the same move it has 4 different ways he does it
Reminder that the hardest boss in Hollow Knight at launch was the fucking Watcher Knights.
>>539458473Reaper is top. I never looked back.
>>539458473Spike thing can be broken by attacks which makes it bad for certain bosses.
>>539404394If there was a mode where spikes did zero damage (but still forced you to restart at your last land-touch point as if you took damage) and that if you die (from enemy damage or whatever), you restart at the beginning of the room, but disqualified achievements, I would so play that.Also, make it so that if you lose a boss gauntlet or the High Halls gauntlet at the boss / last wave, you don't have to redo the previous waves.
>>539458615You probably never tested the others lmao.
>>539458473Wanderer is higher DPS if you’re really comfortable getting close to enemies. It’s the high skill tryhard option. Shaman is really good too.
>>539458615Architect is fun to play and crazy damage with just charge attacks. I still haven't unlocked Witch and Shaman though.If all someone cares about is fast attacks and DPS, Architect is clearly superior to Wanderer though.
>>539458691I’ve never heard of a bigger pussy idea than this. Is your hand-eye coordination severely degraded or something? Get a grip.
>>539458615Reaper just seems like a shittier version of Wanderer.
Are the tracks from the psalm cylinders included in the official soundtrack?
>>539458230Just grow some flowers bro
sucks that tools are not only easier but optimal for some bosses, you could never kill lost lace as fast as you do with tools because of all the downtimethis is not even a gimmicky build like waiting for your summons to do chip damage, tools do more damage than your needle and by a lotbut the issue isn't that tools are too strong, I'd say the needle is too weak, you have to hit regular ass enemies 8 times because of a corruption in act 3 that's insane, they should introduce a cooldown on top of the charges so you don't just spam tools but at also two more needle upgrades AT LEAST
>>539458707I haven't found them yet. I said I didn't look back at either hunter or wanderer.
>>539450957my whimsy is renewed every time she calls a flying enemy a bird
>Takes 4 hits to kill this enemy>Attaches Barbed Bracelet.>Still takes 4 hits, but they do double damage now.
>>539458890>architect >fast attacks
>>539459681The guys in greymoor are 100% birds and I don't care that the game pretends they're bugs
>>539455461I drilled the fuck out of him.
>>539460293enemy damage doesn't matter because I don't get hit
>>539459208Two entirely different playstyles thoughever
>>539460378>yes
>>539428146Can this bitch stop getting vored.
>Forebrothers Signis and GromGod I am raging pretty hard, just died to getting 6 skull worth of damage done to me in under 3 seconds, and I am not exaggerating. Hit by boss, 1, get bounced off the wall, 2 dmg because fire prot didnt come back up yet, clip into shield guy who jump to intercept, 1 dmg, bounce into flying enemies projectile, 1 dmg, contact damage by flying enemy, dead.
>>539459412I didn't have the patience to hit last judge once every 15 seconds in his sperg fire phase so I spammed traps and boomerangs at him
>>539460647Still takes the same amount of hits to kill for some enemies. I don't even know which mob enemies it even helps on.
>>539460863I tried to use tools and struggled, then found if I only used needle I could entirely focus on their attacks and it was ezmode. I would just use tools to burn down phase 1 and its adds, then just use needle on phase 2. They only have two attacks each or so and are really easy to avoid.
>>539460863they have a very simplistic moveset, cmon now
do i get extra cutscenes if I finish the game with 100% or it's just for the achievement
>>539460773nope
>>539417573This is such a good comeback lol.
>>539457253This is about aura, not difficulty
>>539461218Only the Mister Mushroom quest adds to the ending
>>539461210That the worst, I dont have an issue with the boses moveset, its just with ny shit luck a single mistake more often than not snowball into a catastrophic shitshow.
Why are the Weavenests so much more advanced than the Citadel? If my reading of the lore is correct, Weavenests are made by Weavers escaping GMS's control but like... they basically made advanced alien tech ships with silk-based artificial intelligence and teleporters and shit. It's odd that the Weavenests look nothing like the Citadel or any other Weaver structure we see.
>>539461049Make a bug report
>>539460863Magma Bell dude, but I beat them without it just being patient. Signis has two attacks, just bait the throw and be wary of his quick slashes. Its a very fun fight imo.
>>539462219Citadel wasn't built by Weavers. It was bugs trying to reverse-engineer weaver stuff
>the first track of the game is Enter Pharloom>think it was just the trailer song>it plays in Act 3 when you're fighting your way back to PharloomHOLY FUCKING KINOOOOOOOOOOO
>>539462429didn't Pharloom start with GMS
>>539458592back when hollow knight didn't need to make try hard sweaty bosses to make noise
>>539458592No, it was the Radiance.
>>539462456That moment was so great. ASCEND.
I was really loving coral tower, and then they made half the floor spikes with two annoying flying enemies, but I persisted, and then they made the entire floor spikes in a room as wide as 2 hookshots...why do they love ruining their own game? bare minimum, make the fucking room tall and not wide
>>539460863They killed me a bit too but the arena battle beforehand was worse. Btw the fight is pure kino.
Chances Silksong wins GOTY?
>>539462429Wait wait wait wait I thought this was the timeline>GMS uplifts Weavers from pharlids to be her children>in a actuality she just wants slaves for her own benefit>starts a fucked up bug theocratic autocracy to bring in other bugs under her thrall>First Sinner (or others like her) discover weaving magic that can threaten her>Weavers devise a plan to make an artificial god to challenge her (EVA), this is abandoned>they then try a plan to bind her with Silk and Song (TITLE DROP), binding her with the power she granted>the weavers all flee and keep systems in place to keep GMS asleep (the conductors, the architects, the vault keepers)>because the bugs have stuffed themselves with silk, GMS is able to reach out in her slumber and puppet them>GMS wants to find the weavers and re-enslave them, which coincides with her coming wakingI think thats correct? Now my question is what did GMS want Hornet specifically for. Was it just to keep as a slave daughter? Did she want an heir? I dont know.
>>539463275Its either this or Expedition 33, its got a fair shot. But both games are great so who cares?
>>539462282Why? Pretty sure it's correct, due to the very small boost the tool gives. (According to the numbers on the wiki)
>>539462890Radiance is not hard people just built it up because you have to fight Hollow Knight after every loss.
>>539458592you couldn't hit them if they were rolling back then
>>539463503What leads you to believe Eva was an artificial god to rival GMS? Actual question, I feel like I didn't really understand what Eva was
how do I catch this little fucker in far fields? some long range tool?
>>539464418yes, you could
>>539460863My main issue with this fight was the first guys follow-up melee attack. The hitbox is deceptively large, making it easy to get hit if you try to jump over him or pogo at the wrong time.
>>539464605with spells you couldn't
>>539464457I cant remember the specific wording but you can find some records in Weavernest Atla about Eva being meant to be divine but being too frail and being deemed a failire. I'll have to check later for the specifics when I'm home but I'm quite confident they meant for her to aid them in either their opposition to GMS or to keep her subdued and sleeping after their seal.
>>539464590you use the curveclaw and show him how it's done
does anyone else find the weavers sexy
>>539465375Your image makes me think Seele.
>>539465375I hear you
>>539430750Why would a stunned enemy have a passive hitbox anyway unless they are covered in spines or something?
>>539465717Did people forget that Hollow Knight was like this too?
>wanderer crest deals the same amount of damage and generates the same amount of silk per hit as every other crest>can just facetank and out dps everythingYou didn't beat the game. Only Hunter and Reaper are honest.
>>539463503What exactly ARE the higher beings anyway? They are spoken of as if they come from some transcendent plane, but they clearly seem to exist plainly in mortal reality and can be attacked and slain by particularly powerful individuals. What gives? This is like some Greco-Roman pantheon shit, especially with all of the weird fucked up demigod children.
AERA
>>539465830What difference does that make? Retarded then, retarded now. All that proves is TC is high off their own farts for keeping that in after 8 fucking years
Fuck. Shakra fight is insane.
>>539466295You can also taunt or play the needolin to summon her
>>539406910other than the first line, you described mega man
>>539466112That is a question that is beyond me. If I had to speculate, it refers to beings who can "uplift" bugs around them, granting them intellect or powers. Radiance, Pale King and GMS all had the capacity to do this. I assume White Lady did too but she is weird.
>>539465375not even a little>>539465712maybe if it was actually thin like thisbut its notlooks like a big ol' lollipop
>>539459412>they should introduce a cooldownKill yourself
>>539463503Based on that room with the cages in the cradle, seems like hornet is the closest to being a pure weaver? One of the choral commandment mentions shes a weaver in half part, the other cages mentioned the other weavers were quarter or 1/8th weaver or something. Also maybe since she was daughter of the pale king she was extra special
>>539466838if you want to win that much just cheata charm like that one that makes you use the tool two times is almost useless because of no cooldown
>>539467220>it's the mimic "argument" againKys nigger
>>539463275putting my odds at like 15%. Expedition 33 has everything going for it narrative-wise. AA game, appeals to westerners, 'cinematic' story, not particularly challenging or divisive, 3D.
>going through act 3>just remembered that my man Trobbio was only playing dead>he might still be aroundIf there is a rematch against dark Trobbio I will forgive every stupid decision team Cherry made. The unsatisfying rewards, the odd rosary distribution, the un-telegraphed movements with double contact damage, the bilewater run-back, the time wasting quests... All of it would be forgotten if I can dance with Trobbio again.
>>539467061I am fairly confident that Widow is the 1/4 weaver the records mention that was staked for service. But yeah, at 1/2 Weaver she is the closest to a pure one, and Widow mentions her special birth too. Also the capture records for Hornet say that "they sensed strong silk" from the kingdom of the white wyrm, so they definitely viewed her as special. And since all the Weavers are female it seems like the only "pure" Weavers wouls be the direct creations of GMS.
>beat the last judge>get back to having fun againThe runback was unironically pissing me off
>>539467380If you wait until act 2 to get a quill, you can steal his off the desk for a red one. If you wait until act 3 its a purple one.
WAIT YOU CAN TAUNT? HOW?
>>539466112Yeah basically the closest to Greek gods, powerful, but not invincible. The real question is what exactly is the Void Entity. It doesn't seem particularly malicious but it does seem to hate The Radiance. In Godseeker, they call it the God of Gods. This could imply that the Void Entity is a creator figure. There also seemed to be an original civilization based on Void and whatever the Snail race is.
>>539467336what a sorry existence
>>539467697Right thumbstick, very useful for sequence breaking and some time saves (you can skip the Widow dialogue by taunting her)
>wanderer crest>flinslate>weighted belt>magnetite dice>fully upgraded nailoh yeah, it's gaming time
>>539459412I think its more a problem of boss movesets not offering much room for the player to get a hit in. It almost lends itself to tool abuse, lest you spend 3 extra minutes in the fight, increasing your chances of making shitty plays and dying.
>>539467994Silksong is to Hollow Knight what Shadow of the Erdtree is to Elden Ring. The devs gave a bunch of tools to the players and now expect them to use all of them to finish the game.
>>539467994>I think its more a problem of boss movesets not offering much room for the player to get a hit in.Lost Sinner for instance. She'll scramble across the stage doing melee damage in front of her, but the hitbox also goes on top of her, meaning you can't get in an easy pogo unless youre on her VERY back end of her model. In Hollow Knight, you'd be able to get the pogo damage off the top regardless. Her attack would only be parried/deflect with a fully frontal, where she's actually moving and attacking.
>uncapped attack speed during a parry so you can parry multi hitsGod it feels good every time
a-awo..?
>>539468574Do NOT
Why didn't I get completion percentage?
>>539468952it's an item you get from the abyss that tells you
>>539468952Because you’re ugly
It's a bit silly that TC insists all the Hollow Knight endings could be canon. The only way the true ending works in Silksong would be for Dream No More to be the canon ending. Original ending would have the Knight trapped embodying the Radiance. Sealed Siblings obviously doesn't make sense.
>>539467720All the different higher beings have power based on Soul. For ordinary bugs, the local higher being is an overarching entity which manipulates the life force which drives them all. To put that a different way, Soul is the domain of many gods each doing their own thing, Whereas it's opposition, the Void, is all the domain of one thing. For gods/higher-beings the void is an overarching entity which consumes the basic metaphysical element which defines their existence, and doesn't really discriminate between them.
They are pretty fucking cute.Do the fleas have a flea god that lets them become sapient?
>>539469804Something like that
I feel like it was a bit extreme to kill GMS. She just wanted a family. Like, sure she was controlling people a little, but they also kind of brought that on themselves by using her silk to extend their lives and to power their machines.
>>539469918Way to blame the hapless helpless peasants instead of the system itself, boot licker.
>>539469450How do the gods come into being though? To they just poof into the material world when enough soul energy coalesces, are they the final stage of extremely powerful bugs, or have they simply always existed and are just slowly dying out, never to be replaced?
>>539469865Really? I did their whole quest and don't remember any info like that
>>539468952locked behind an item, that you can miss, in act 3, lol
>>539464457>I feel like I didn't really understand what Eva wasIsn't she half-Weaver, half-Steel (whatever species Steel Soul Jinn is)? She was a failure, due to being too fragile or some shit.
>>539470320The flea badge thingamajig seems to imply there's like a goddess flea, yeah?
>>539469918>that UI change when binding herkino
>>539465717Because when it wakes up you would get damaged if you stood in a hitbox. That's a bad surprise, better just not disable hitbox at all.
>>539469918You only think that because you want to fuck her.
>>539426670Pale King's ability to change is unique. It is noted that Hornet's ability to swap between Crests comes from her Wyrm half.
>>539470453Do you think Hornet got a crest when she bound the Hollow Knight?
>>539470129The peasants are only good for giving me rosaries, and they revive every time I sit down in a chair.
so lorewise how much more fucked was pharloom compared to hallownest?
>>539470886Hallownest seems significantly more fucked than pharloom. The infection does not give a fuck. The citadel only cares about your complacency.
>>539470385my assumption that Steel Soul Jinn was part void and simply clad in steel like the void automatons of the White Palace. Just like Steel Assassin Sharpe, wherever he might be in development, is seemingly also part void.
>>539470886Much less fucked if you don’t count the voidsplosion. If you take Act 3 into consideration, it’s a bit closer but I think Pharloom is still less fucked. Just watching the background of the settlements, there are a lot of miscellaneous survivors even throughout Act 3. Many bugs made it through the entire ordeal. Hallownest is a smoldering ruin and 99% of the population are dead or gone.
>>539464457>I feel like I didn't really understand what Eva wasBuilt Kratt from dirt to build Eva out of his bones.
>>539471048>infection Has very little to do with Hallownest in and of itself
I wonder how does Hallownest fares post-ending? The Kingdom is basically already destroyed and hopeless, but Pale King's aura is still working strong. I wonder if some random bugs will randomly uplift and then rebuild on ruins or some shit. Also there's mantis tribe.
>>539470886Pharloom has a chance to rebuild even after the abyss disaster. Hallownest is a gigantic mass grave outside of the Mantis tribe.
>>539470886Hallownest is straight up post-apocalyptic. The infection killed or mind controlled nearly everyone in that society, anyone you currently see was holed up or newcomers coming from elsewhere. For all intents and purposes, Hallownest is a ruin.Pharloom still seems like it's kinda working. There are a ton of NPCs just chilling around, especially if they didn't inject silk into themselves. It's not really a working civilization though, it seems built entirely around imprisoning GMS.
>>539470886Hallownest>Completely ravaged by the infection and void>King committed a genocide against his children>But had good infrastructure with tramways and more free benches>Tribes outside the kingdom weren't all completely subjugated and were allowed to exist>King also took care of lifeblood crisis ASAPPharloom>Fucked by Silk then void but can be rebuilt with remaining citizenry>About to be ravaged by lifeblood though so who knows>Impressive tech since built on top of lava reserve and had access to more natural materials (directly stated in hunters journal)>Clear caste system where lower peasentry got completely fucked over>Made explicit enemies of every single outsider nation bordering itOn the whole for an average citizen I'd give quality of life to Hallownest pre infection but each place has it's problems
>>539471539People still live in the city. Population will be decimated but its still a good living space with infrastructure already built. >>539471645People will probably break free from the infection once radiance is gone.
>>539471645>especially if they didn't inject silk into themselvesWhat if they injected lifeblood/plasmium? Seems like yet another type of infection alongside orange-radiant-dream-gunk and silk.
>>539471914We LOVE plasmium
>>539471884I feel like another thing about Hallownest is that it was powered mostly by crystals but we've seen what long term exposure to crystals do, it has its own unique risks unrelated to infection
>>539471896A graverobber, a suicidal guy and an insane woman are not much of a civilization. Meanwhile Pharloom has multiple settlements.
>>539471884In previous thread Anon said that after death of Twelfth Architect all Citadel tech is destined to be completely fucked
>>539471914Fun fact, Eva puts up a shield to keep you away if you overdose on plasnium, just like how she shields herself when you're cursed. Its clearly a threat.
Wait so the Pale King granted sentience to his subjects, but why do the bugs in Pharloom have sentience? Not all of them are affected by silk.
>>539472101In alternate universe, Hallownest is infected by crystals, like C&C Tiberium
>>539472243a little plasmium overdose never hurt anyone
>>539472297Who granted sentience to Pale King?
>>539472297Pale King propaganda, other civilizations exist despit his claims otherwise.
>>539472243Plasmium Ending, you beat the final boss while having Plasmium overdose
>Radiance, Plasmium, Crystals, Void, Silkdude wtf bug life is hell
>>539472243what does she say to the overdose? i know she calls out the parasite but is the dialogue different?
>>539472101With so many things that can infect and kill these poor bugs, I’m surprised that we haven’t seen a fungal threat like cordyceps. I guess that would be too obvious, though, and I guess The Last of Us already did it but it didn’t make sense there because you weren’t playing as a bug.
>>539471914But I thought Plasmium isn't actively infecting organisms that come into contact with it? Everything we see in Pharloom is a result of that scientist's research, injecting local lifeforms with the plasmium, rather than coming into contact with the plasmium in the caves and spreading on its own. A few druggies injecting substances pales in comparison to a virus infecting and killing people.
>>539472852I havent done it myself so I'll check when I get home, I'm just going off what others have said.
>>539472943Silk is the same: bugs injected themselves with it, then had children. Children were born with silk already inside. I presume Plasmium would be the same.
"The Knight losing it's memory due to being away from Hallownest" theory never made sense to me. Hornet never lost her memory.The Knight have a body of half-Pale-Wyrm, half-Pale-Root + The Void as a soul. It was never uplifted, it is sapient due its pale/void lineage.
Are you telling me i went through this horrid dogshit of a platforming section for THIS zanzibart garbage?
>>539472104In a situation where the infection gets cleansed, the City of Tears has an enormous amount of citizens still there. We only explore a tiny teeny portion of the city, after all, and its crawling with citizens turned cannibals (and enforcers/cops)
>>539472914Some enemies have moss growing inside of them, so plant infection is possible
>>539472852>>539472956Found it>Come no closer! I sense the forbidden blood coursing through you, that which grows and reshapes the world in its own vulgar image.>Whether imbibed willingly or not, none shall be allowed into this chamber while so afflicted. Begone!
>>539473326I dont think the people infected go back to normal after the Radiance dies, I think they're dead. Zote calls them the walking dead.
>>539473291Are we supposed to recognize the appearance of this thing? Its not as if its engraved with some sort of crest.
>>539473326I thought infected were already dead due to starvation and stuff.
>>539472297I already went over it in the thread, but it means "Hallownest is so cool it elevates bugs above simply 'living and substisting' as primary reason for being, into something more". Dress this up in language like you're a Chinese scribe to the emperor, and you get the intro proclamation of Hallownest
>>539473406Oh cool thanks, very interesting.
>>539473552>"Hallownest is so cool it elevates bugs above simply 'living and substisting' as primary reason for being, into something more".Sounds like hollowing in dark souls tbqhwufam
>>539473552>elevates bugs above simply 'living and substisting' as primary reason for being, into something moreDeepnest be like: "nah"
most important side quests?
>>539469275(HK3 spoiler)There's more than one universe.
How do I get to the heart near the blasted steps?
>>539473785Deepnest is not Hallownest proper. The tramway was likely part of a planned extermination operation, enormous in scope. Its likely this was already underway, but then the creatures came back after the state ceased functioning. Likely that the mantis tribe was to receive more lebensraum through this process, with their support. >>539473516>>539473439Alright. Husks are dead. Fine. There's still some npcs in Hallownest that aren't infected. City of tears has a bunch
>>539473291I got it too and wasn't that upset over the climb, apparently you have to go back there again for the Herald quest
in hollow knight if you use >crests >nail upgrades>nail arts>spellsor if you>heal during a fight>collect mask upgrades >collect soul orbsyou didnt fucking come close to beating the game
>>539472914We do in the Fungal Wastes I think, it might have just been in addition to the Radiance
What IS the Radiance, anyway?
>>539475170a moth
I just beat Lost Lace I feel like this ending was a bit anti-climatic even though the fight itself was pretty good. I seem to be missing an achievement for defeating a boss between Seed and Lamenter, another achievement between Fatal Resolve and Resident, and what seems to be another ending between Sister of the void and Completion, how do I go about getting these?
>>539475170>>539475281A very sexy moth god
>>539474623anyone?
>>539475337I do feel like with some extra scenes where they show Pharloom without silk or void, it would be more complete since it only implies that you got rid of all of it. However every part of Silksong just feels like its absolutely setting itself up for DLC.
Why are the gods so stupid? They could live forever in peace and harmony if they were just benevolent and kind to their little bug worshippers.
>>539474820If you got the hidden tunnel that takes you back down you don't have to do the climb again.
>>539475170A Higher Being, who may be the god/avatar/anthropomorphic representation of the sunHigher Beings seem to be divine
>>539475170personal void onahole
>>539475492I think it's kind of beyond their control. The Radiance isn't like evil, infecting people with orange dream liquid is just what it does
>>539475512Yeah I'm aware, the one above the bench
>>539474623If I remember correctly, you have to go to the underworks and head back to the elevator shaft you entered it from at the start of act 2. There's a hidden wall that you can reach with wall clinging.
>>539475984That’s kind of sad.
>>539475512Radiance was a chill one tho, she created moths, gave them knowleвge about the dreams and most likely loved her creations. Pale king on the other hand made moths betray her one way or another, and just overall wanted to destroy her, and like many of us she wanted to live so thats why the infection appeared. Too brutal in my opinion, but there was a reason for that outcome. Also, remember that one of the stones (The one in white castle I think) literally saying that there never was any other kind of light, but the white light of the king or something like this.
This >>539476341Meant for >>539475492
>>539475492The Radiance was endangered of being forgotten, what is a god without worship?
>>539476039Alright, thanks
>>539476341>>539476718So basically the Pale King caused all of this?
>>539476843Pale king did literally nothing wrong except build his house on haunted indian moth landAlso radiance is just an ~idea~ so is really hard to actually fight. Pale King is just what you get when you have unlimited autism to dominate the tangible reality, but he was totally deluded about emotions and so on. So he may have done a lot of things wrong. But I still respect him. Radiance needed to die.
>>539475984The Radiance was a vengeful asshole who reduced even her most faithful followers to orange mush (moss prophet). Neither Radiance or GMS are interested in peace or about following their nathre, they want total domination. You can see evidence of this cruelty in GMS with how she treats Widow and Phantom.
>>539477201True ending confirms he was completely fucking wrong about the vessels and even the most perfect one had a will and a mind. Radiance was always going to break out.
>>539476843Basically yes, no idea why they couldn't co-exist since goddes of the moss folk (Unn) could come up with a compromise which resulted into creation of green path and garden for White Lady. So yeah, not all gods are this stupid.
I cannot beat GMS cursed. Help.
>>539477563Dont get greedy. You can hit the spikes to send them back down. Beyond that just lock in, its a tough but fair fight.
>>539477352Yeah. The idea that Hollow Knight needed to be autistically pure and hollow to work is simply fuck tarded. >>539477439All those gods are of the real. Pale King understands material reality very well. Radiance is a disease of the mind and makes everyone retarded and crazy goo goo gaga simply by being there. That's also why PK got one shotted after his vessel plan failed. Well,He still managed to create the guided missile of the Knight mc, so he won in the end.
>>539476843The Radiance was a good god to the moths, all the other bugs under her rule were reduced to mindless slaves
>>539477218I don't think that's true at all. It's just that any being that isn't a Moth can't handle the Radiance.
>>539476843Unironically he was so charismatic with his no paid bench policy that people flocked to worship him in drovesThe Radiance hid itself within dreams and started the infection because she was seething about it. The Weavers betrayed Silk for the king also.
>>539477902Why do you think like that? Moths were not savage or stupid when she created them, she also never touched other bugs who were stupid by default. And the infection on its own appeared after the betrayal of moth tribe. Plus the infected mantis lord and his warriors most likely are still in some sort of consciousness since they gave themselves up voluntarily to radiance, but take it with a bit of salf since I am devil's advocate here.
>>539477201>>539477902these posts were fact checked by trve pale king patriots
>>539478095I don’t think that GMS was personally responsible for benches requiring payment. What would she even do with rosary beads???
>>539477352>breaks all the preestablished conventions and ascends to the status of a god of gods purely because he was such a skilled and inquisitive fella>saves his sister and carries her to safety the second he arrives to this particular segment of the Void, cutting Void tendrils>even saves the little annoying shit that was together with herHe's too based
We all agree hornet wanted to fuck the green prince right
>>539479571She wasn't
>>539479571She wasn't but as the leader her image pays for it
>>539479857She wants to fuck most of the cast
Pale king WON
>on his free time away from the fire he turned the room into a saunabased???
>>539479857She wants to fuck humans
>>539480230What the fuck? Who? Where?
>>539479785hey, that little annoying shit is my WIFE
>>539480421the guy who helps the forge daughter and this is the bench room after the forebrothers fight
>>539479857Hornet will fuck anyone, mostly her little brother.
>>539480445Your WIFE is fucking stupid
>>539481006Stupidly cute.
>>539480445She's an annoying and stupid character. Narratively she reminds me Crisanta from Blasphemous, yet another shit character writers were obsesed over.
>>539480445>>539481006>>539481080>>539481095
>>539479571Most of the horrible crimes against bugkind in Pharloom aren't the direct fault of GMSIt was the church system they created to contain GMS over time growing more and more corrupt and overdosing on SilkShe's responsible for the Haunting, though
>>539480110>>539479857She could've cured him...
>tired of playing Silksong>watch some HK letsplays>back to playing
>>539479087>who were stupid by default.Higher beings do not grant sapience to bugs
>>539481006
>>539479785Knight also has perfect lineage for ascending to Godhood. All that's left is growing to an appropriate stature (like the Hollow Knight).
>>539481651>>539481006
>>539481585He seems to like his tiny form even though he can become gigantic.
>>539481775Co-incidentally, this is probably true in a different sense for Hornet as well, at least based on the dialogue she has with the lucid Mask Maker.
>>539481585He might be technically be a god/godling even before his ascension to the Lord of Shades
Hello friends!
Act 3 is so horridly boring i cannot even muster enough strenght to finish side questsAnd here i thought act 2 was fucking dull
>>539481727>tfw ywn be able to secretly put fabric softener into Lace's bathwater>tfw ywn use her plush body as a cushion while the two of you sleep>tfw ywn sniff her body like a pile of clean laundry>tfw ywn help her trim loose strings
I get they're supposed to be wide pants, but it genuinely looks like lace has a cartoonishly giant ass. Not that I'm complaining though.
>>539458563literally the easiest boss and easiest runback everthey made the parkour runback so easy it's crazy
>>539482393Life is painLace must be real
>>539482287why? I'm having fun red boss was super fun even tho it took me like 3 hours, but I was at 10% an hour inthe most unfun shit so far was corrupted ZANZIBART, literally dying in 3 seconds to him due to all double damage until you figure out the strat
>>539482880>why?only a few new real levels and they are shit, hastily thrown together and obviously rusheda ton of repeated content the game refuses to reward like new combat rooms, like fucking seriously at least drop shards for them or somethinglack of any new exciting character upgrades to look forward to
What does GALAMA mean
Okay, Wanderer Crest with Longclaw, I realize your appeal now.
>>539483381The bind that makes her say this is called "challenge," so you might be able to infer that it means something along the lines of, "Fight me!"
I simply think beast crest is the most honest one
Why do the Silk beings look like they're part void...?
>>539483890eh, don't think too hard on what black body parts actually indicatei think the only thing that really shows if something's void or not is what happens when it dies, like the black gooballs the knight and the hallownest shamans have
>>539484115>black gooballsyour silk cocoon has that when you break it
>>539484458HORNET is out here VOIDING all OVER the place???
>>539484535VOIDED.COM
Wish I could skip the intro. Easily doubles my runback time. Radiance didn't have this shit after the first try.
>>539484574bro relax, it's only one of the easiest fights in the entire game
>>539484859Not with the curse.
is knowing the story of HK important for Silksong
fuck lost lace was fun
>>539485440It helps to give context to some of what Hornet says.
So uhhhh How do I get to the surface?
How does this work?Do I get to choose which of the four doesn't get used or do I need to do the other 3, do the quest, and only after do the boss to get the memento?
>>539486206You have to take in three. If you take in all four, I believe it uses the three marked by the quest and leaves you with the conjoined heart.
>>539486073above the cradle, small hole to silksoar and you have a parkour area
nu bred wen?
>>539466112Personally it feel like they are dream beings that grew to have real life influence to the point they're seen as godlike entities, kind of like a tulpa on steroid. We know the insects in the lore can literally turn souls into physical objects, so perhaps especially powerful insects managed to turn their souls into tengibles entities with their own volition.
>>539486327Thanks
>>539486449Also now that I think about it, this could also be the case for the Wyrm King in Hollow Knight, since iirc he was born from the great wyrm death. So maybe there is actual weight to my spontaneous headcannon.So basically, insect souls when they die = amulets with magic powers that are paralel to their dying wish, and when a super strong insectoid entity dies its will/wish is so strong its make the resulting entity sentient. But I mean insanely strong kind of beings, like 99.99% of living beings cant ever attain that level of power because whenever such a strong being is around it run amok until it dies of natural causes, as nothing can trump them.Like just imagine how the great wyrm would have been when it was still alive, it would be basically a skyscraper sized ravenous monster that could swim in rocks like it were a fish in water, cant even fathom how youd even kill such a thing.
I do Not like Seth...
>>539488345We love Seth here
wow, putrified ducts is almost as annoying as bile water. get me out of here
>>539466112I don't know how normally killable they are, Silk is killed only by the void, greyroot curse or hornet binding her power to herself, and it's implied she can't be killed normally, the Radiance is a dream and requires its own power to be reached, and the united power of the void to be killed, the pale king shed his status as a wyrm, and still apparently died by himself.
>>539489283I think its implied that the Void got the Pale King in the end, judging by the last room in the palace.
Why did the weavers invent a bunch of fake gods to worship when granny objectively exists as their divine creator?
>>539489654GMS sucks thats why
>>539489615I don't remember the last room having connections to the void, but it's been years, so I'll believe you.>>539489654Because they weren't her true daughters as the first sinner said, she lied to them.Also when did they create fake gods to worship?
>>539489654>a very real being>a flawed being>kind of an asshole>lies to you>uses younot quite what you would consider a god to worship
so objectively, who's the best higher beings in the world of hollow knight?pale king, white lady, gms, unn, nightmare heart, whatever mr mushroom worships or radiance?
>>539489848>Also when did they create fake gods to worship?Read the weaver idol relics
What if I fuck grandma silk? Will good dicking make her better?
>>539490041Unn
>>539490041Radiance before the infection, White lady, but the true good one is only Unn.
>>539490041unndidn't really do anything and just sits in a lake instead of fucking things up
>>539490041Pale King, Unn might beat him but we know far too little.>>539490075Weren't those about other bugs worshipping the weavers? When I can I will reread.
>take lace from the abyss>Somehow that calms down the voidHow does that work exactly
>>539490036uses them to what end? i don't understand what her plans were for the mortal world. 80% of the infrastructure was created by the religious cult that sprung up after she was already unconscious
>>539490592What calmed the Void was the Knight personally intervening and forcing it to calm the fuck down.
>>539490592The void was trying to eat Silk, Silk used her threads to try and bind herself to Pharloom to protect Lace, the void corrupted her threads and started destroying Pharloom.
>>539490752The knight can't do shit lmfao, he wasn't even able to beat the everbloom in hk
>>539490592It finished eating Silk and she stopped clinging to Pharloom to juice up your jump>>539490752The Knight is not the reason the abyss calmed down, they just saved us.>>539490625Even while she was unconscious she was puppeting bugs. She wanted slaves. "A world strung to serve."
I haven't played in two days and I'm not in the best state right now due to a headache, but First Sinner is kicking my ass. You don't get a cocoon, you don't refill tools, and her grunting is maddening. I swear half the fight is just dealing with her annoying noises.I have no idea how to actually hit her. Either I go all in on a dash and take contact damage, or I miss 70% of hits playing it safe because she either leaps back or teleports. I suppose I can try clawlining. The spam becomes strong in phase 2 along with visual overload because you have all of these essentially at once:Explosive circlesHorizontal swordsVertical swordsHer physical attacksSomewhat RNG in that last phase.
>>539490842Knight LITERALLY protects those two dumbasses, pulls them ashore and then void tendrils fuck off. He's the will behind the void now, although the game implies he's not ALL the void at once so disasters can still happen.
>>539490842Canon HK ending is Godhome without everbloom
>>539491213Really hope not, I'm for no more dreams.
>>539491213Dream No More is still up for debate given Hornet's lines about "even gods can fall", Embrace the Void means she has no clue what happened to Radiance.
>>539491075Clawline, max aggro because you won't get a chance to heal anyway. The more you try to act like her, the better you do. First Sinner is the Pure Vessel of Silksong.
>>539490625>to what end?does it really matter? would you give away your bodily and mental autonomy to someone else just because you don't know what they might want to do with that power?weavers are described as people that didn't want to submit to gms and instead wanted to rule and dominate others. based on the effigies others worshiped them and caretaker and others imply that hornet might be there to just take control and lord over them as well
>>539491075I'm gonna be honest anon, I did not know how to do it either.So I just did the usual, nail only until I can't hold it anymore and then cogfly spam to finish her while I'm 100% focusing on not dying.Still one of my most prefered fight, so much tension. Not losing your shard as well as respawning direcly at the boss entrance is a great and make this fight not frustrating.
>>539491294>Embrace the Void means she has no clue what happened to Radiance.The infection gets rekt, the only logical conclusion is that Radiance got fucked up
>>539491294>Embrace the Void means she has no clue what happened to Radiance.When the plague is gone and THK walks out of the egg, it's safe to say the Radiance is dead even if she doesn't know specifically how
>>539491294Not only that, you would expect her to refernce the void flooding hollownest if the delicate flower wasn't used.
>>539490625>>539491394and when using needolin, a power over silk, on enemies (that all have inherited potentially mind controlling silk in their bodies for generations), many just sing about servitude, worship or following orders
>>539490592Silk loved Lace, when Lace sacrificed herself to send Silk into the Void Silk went berserk trying to save Lace.Silk's the one doing the damage as she fights the void, the void infestation is Silk's control getting corrupted by the void, and her clinging onto life is what keeps the void going.When you save Lace, not only does Silk calm down, but she dies aswell, (supposedly) cutting the void's reach to the rest of Pharloom.
>>539491294Fair point, but Hornet is a smart girl that can probably figure out what it means when the Hollow Knight comes out of the temple.We also get a flash of Void Given Focus's multi-eyed face during Hornet's escape which implies whatever happened in Godhome was canon and that VGF broke free of the Godseeker's mind.
>>539491349i never used clawline in any fights. i always treat it as movement/platforming only ability. i need to use it more i guess.
>>539491601We see the Void Given Form in that abyss weavernest, its not exclusive to conquering Godseeker and existed prior.
did the old man die when i beat his lost form?
>>539492069Yes...
>>539491597This was kind of tragic. GMS was really terrible to her subjects, but she loved Lace and Lace seemingly had no idea. She sacrifices herself to save Lace even after Lace directly disobeyed and went against her multiple times, so there was more on her mind than simply controlling everything.
>>539492203nyooo... his pet will be alone then.
>>539492402Play your needle for them ;_;Wish you could adopt the little bug for your bellhome
>>539492364not only that but Lace never felt that love, she felt she was an unloved abomination, she fights Hornet precisely because she thinks GMS doesn't love her and wants to use Hornet as her replacement
>>539491818Void Given Form might could happen in multiple ways. Void Given Focus is a different matter entirely. Form kills Radiance, Focus kills Absolute Radiance.
Whos the potential protagonist for the 3rd game?
>>539492726Look at how GMS treated Phantom, I can see why
>>539492726being Lace is suffering
>>539492808Lace, obvi
>>539492808I can honestly see it being Hornet again, she's super popular. Lace is a big candidate though.
>>539492402pet?that was his wife!
>>539492808the bath flea creep and nuu. the powers of voyeurism and observation
>clockwork dancers took me more tries than last judgeI… huh…
>struggle for centuries on a boss>finally beat it>huh that was easy thoWhy does this happen
>>539492726She probably saw how Phantom was abandoned and was afraid it could happen to her one day
>>539493689huhsomeone actually got gud
>having traps in the mist where you can't see anything and platforms that collapsethis is so fucking dumb and is way overdoing it
new thread doko
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