Doomed children edition.Store links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomPrevious Thread>>539404394
Here we go again
The knight couldn't even beat Lost lace
>>539494850the knight shat all over hornet twice
>>539495234>Raditz beat goku once so he would beat Ultra instinct gokuThat's how retarded you sound
>>539495603prime knight has the power of the void and murdered godprime whorenet has...some silk and shit
>>539495234The Knight got beaten by a bench covered in webs
>>539495603The strongest version of Hornet (master weaver) bound an higher being, while the strongest version of the knight (god of gods) is able to effortlessly destroy one.That said it's arguable the god of gods is the knight, they don't seem to act in similar ways.
>>539491349>>539491408Using clawline more helped a bunch. Phase 2 I just spammed cogflies and tacks and was lucky enough that she didn't spam everything at once again.
Does Silksong have more funny upgrades besides the spider scuttle?
>>539496071THat's assuming the radiance and mother silk are as strong as one anotherThey're not, mother silk is much stronger
>>539496071>God of Gods! How clear to see. How obvious. That diminutive shell doth barely disguise thine overwhelming strength, thine all-consuming glory!It depends on how much you want to equate The Knight/Ghost to Void Given Focus. Is "God of Gods" just super saiyan Knight? Or is it a Bruce Banner/Hulk situation where the Knight has no control once Void Given Form takes over?I always figured it to be more like the latter, that the void monstrosity is the God of Gods and Ghost is just Ghost.Third option: It's a Fierce Deity Mask Link thing where the Void can only Focus when the time is right as determined by some unknown X factor.
>>539496813It seems to me they have different powerset, with the Radiance having dominion over dreams, wich makes it far more impossible to fight and more effective at creating the infection, to the point even after being completely forgotten she could spell the end of hallownest from a single statue and was defeatable only because of her own power, the coordinated will of the void and the pale king's seals.Meanwhile Granny's dominion over silk gives her extremely different powers, like creating life, using it to keep herself from being absorbed and much more.
>>539496883Yes that's why I said it was arguable wether the knight was the god of gods.
>>539496071the strongest version of Hornet hasn't been seen yet, you can say her current strongest is after she bound GMS, making her a Radiance-level being, but the Godseeker is what enabled the Knight to turn into the Void EntityWe shall see once the Godhome DLC comes out
>>539497504That's true, I only talked about current informations.
On one hand, DO NOT LEWD LACEOn the other hand, I literally cannot help myself.Within me there are 2 bugs fighting.
>>539497740>DO NOT LEWD LACEwhy?
Finally, a honest review of Silksong.
Why did the knight bother saving hornet?I thought vessels had no will of their own
>>539497807Because she's mine, and mine alone, duh
what if she looked at you like this and said "SHYAAA"what would you do in that situation?
>>539498010but it's because they DO have will that there's a fuckhuge number of them and Hollow Knight as a whole even exists
when will someone make a hornet x lace ost mash-up already
phantom was fun. i only used the tacks in the last phase when she was teleporting all over but goddamn they destroyed her
>>539498007This is fairly impressive.
>>539498007Letting China play our games was a mistake.
>>539497504How would another godhome DLC even work? Doesn't the Void entity just destroy the entirety of Godhome at the end?
>haha I apparently never did Path of Pain, lemme do that real quick>After playing Silksong for two weeks, I'm sure it'll be a cinch Famous last words
>>539498051I love girls that look at me like this life is so unfair
How the fuck.
>>539498710Basically yes because Godhome was more or less just the mind palace of the Godseeker, who themselves was host to the collective consciousness of what remained of their home society (hence all the bugs in the background of most of the Godhome arenas)I'm sure TC will come up with some way to incorporate the shaman song as necessary to enter nu-Godhome so that Hornet can "relive" her battles. The FFXIV handwave for raiding comes to mind as a possibility, where a bard hears your tales of battle and then retells them with much embellishment.Whatever it is, it won't be called "Godhome" officially.
>>539498010Did you somehow miss the entire story of HK.Vessels all have will of their own and that's why they are considered failures and can't contain radiance. The whole point of the knight journey is to find a way to definitely stop radiance without relying on the pale king solution that obviously did not work.
>>539499351Go down, below the elevator.
NAAAOOOO~GO AWAY.....NAAAOOO~
>>539497504I know people like the Lord of Shades moment but I think Hornet doesn't want to be a God.If there is a Godhome style DLC I expect it to not end with Hornet's ascension.Beating the Pantheon of Pharloom might unlock a new ending somehow, but not the same way Godhome did it.
Hornet was such a fucking nepo baby it's unreal
why does everyone call lace and hornet child if neither of them are children? it makes me feel very uncomfortable with myself!
>>539500346They are immortal demigod lolis/hebes.
>>539499910Can't wait to suffer through Pantheon of Pharloom (the new PoP!) for the Grand Mother Silk 2 fight everyone expected at the end of Act 3.
>>539500346they need a reason to feel disgusted by their feelings while gaining a morally righteous position over normal peoplebasically deluded freaks
>>539500346>Laceshe's been created with a childish body and mind>Hornetshe's short.
Did people really have that much trouble with sister splinter? Like I literally beat the living shit out of her the first try, didn't even break a sweat. Saw a lot of people complaining about the minion spawns too, but it's such a nothingburger compared to groal's shitass minions.
>>539498010>5 hour speedrun is going okay>High Halls arena is coming upI'm scared...
>>539500874the adds are only an issue if you think you need to rush to kill them asap
>>539501010or if you don't have thread storm. i didn't even register that she had adds because i would just jump up and hit her and her two minions with my storm every time she summoned them.
>>539500874why are you comparing it to Groal?remember, the complaints are from 1~4 days after the launch, they complain as they go through the gamewhy do you think there's so much hunter's march talk? it's because they haven't reached bilewater yetsister splinter is a very annoyign boss if all you did was marrow, wormways, and shellwood, or farfields and left side of greymoor
>>539501010>>539501269IIRC, the boss itself is able to crush them, but otherwise they can be easily dealt with. Normally I try to rush minion spawns to prevent arenas from being cluttered.
>>539500874>but it's such a nothingburger compared to groal's shitass minions.The fact that you reached Groal means you're better than more than half the players. Hell, probably better than me too since I still have yet to beat the arena before him.Most people can't even beat Last Judge. I think it's fair to say that some had problem with SisSplint, even though you and I beat her.
architect cresttacks, spikes, and shakra ringspoison tool charmyup, time to win
SoHornet (end of silksong)>Lost Lace>Lord of shade>Knight (end of hollow knight) >Lace>Hornet (hollow knight)We all agree on this?
>>539501354>the complaints are from 1~4 days after the launch, they complain as they go through the gameboggles my mind how many people barely had time to launch the game and they were already complaining it was too hard.I hope TC is unapologetic with the difficulty in Godhome 2.0. I want all the Awakened/Radiant fights to tilt me upside-down.
>>539501787>boggles my mind how many people barely had time to launch the game and they were already complaining it was too hard.Every single one of these generals has been filled with people saying the game was unfair and cheap and they weren't having fun. I dont go on /v/ anymore but I'm sure they're whining about it too. Feels very surreal from old Hollow Knight threads where people were bragging about P5 clears.
>>539501787>>539502139the hype train doesn't check your ticket. lots of shitters boarded and will have to get weeded out naturally
>>539498051Need this fat ass brat bouncing on my dick TODAY.
>>539501787that's just how the internet worksinstead of exasperatedly talking to yourself, you post it out into the world, random things that don't matter, but as these inconsequential ramblings pile, the terminally online incorporate them into their worldview and vividly believe these things, so they repost and write over and over about what they readnone of it is real, /vg/ is filled with people that play the game and write in-the-moment things, while /v/ is what happens when someone absorbs these things without filtering it (by playing the game themselves)
>>539501354I don't compare the fight as a whole, only the minions.>>539501574I wouldn't cite statistics as a source of jackshit. A lot of these people are just ADHD mouthbreathers who only played the game for like 40 minutes because their favourite streamer said it was good, contributed to the total numbers and carried on because they were too bored.The original HK was cleared by like 1/5 of all the players who played it on Steam, I'm not even talking about the true ending.
>>539502291her ass is NOT fat!
>>539502389Its fucking ridiculous, its so big it should have its own ventricus warp
>>539502139Hollow Knight had reviews on Steam like "10/10 game makes me want to punch my monitor and rub my face on the broken glass."Everyone played HK for so long they forgot what it was like to be going through the learning curve, then TC had the audacity to not make Hornet's movement a 1:1 copy of the Knight's and suddenly it's all "garbage game design" and blah blah blah.Judge having a massive suicide explosion is the funniest thing because it's 100% your fault if you get hit by it.>>539502365Don't I know it. I'm looking forward to 2-3 months from now, if not sooner, when all the garbage has taken itself out.
>>539501787Yes, that's my confusion, the game is just started, take your time rather than immediately spam that it's too hard, I saw a video where people called the false knight too strong, just take the time to learn the bosses.
>>539502538say what you will about GMS... she has patrician taste. witness her perfect creation...
>>539502368>The original HK was cleared by like 1/5 of all the players who played it on SteamWhat argument are you making from this? I don't see how this supports your point about statistics being unreliable.
>>539499478Thank you. I mentally wrote that route off hours ago because I didn't notice that the elevator never closes and can be hit from the outside.
>>539496813Source: Your fucking ASS.
>>539502538>ass that fat>still flat as a board compared to Chef Lugolilet me know when Lace can weaponize her posterior
>>539502908Hornet's wife...
>>539502829>radiance>can't even take out a kingdom on her own>Mother silk>Literally creates a far bigger society Feats speak for themselves
>>539502908I kinda wish I was a smellfag, there's so much prime content that I can't properly enjoy that some other guy is loving
>>539503014By that logic the Pale King shat on them both. Oh wait. Radiance destroyed that kingdom. Fucking retard.
>>539502908in terms of hip to waist ratio, Lace is definitively in the lead. i will concede, however, that Lugoli clearly has more raw mass
>>539503084Pale king decided that juice wasn't worth the squeeze and left. He was never defeated
>>539503232Lace is clearly a stickbug wearing some sort of poofy pantaloons, I bet she looks just like Hornet from the neck down underneath that silken shell.
>>539503036im a smellfag and there is nothing here for me to enjoy. hornet and lace are not stinky
I wish the load screen showed your progress %. pretty sure HK did that
>>539503397Multiple NPCs comment on Hornet's scent.
Warding bell, my beloved
>>539503531you've never heard of a sweaty bug
>>539503014Nta, but the weavers created the society, Silk got sealed and slept.
>>539503560injector band is better
>>539503385
>>539503505you need far sight my nigga
>>539503397>claims to be a smellfag>focuses on Hornet and Lace to the detriment of everything else>still misses NPC dialogue about Hornet having a notable smell>>539503505You had to read a sign in the Black Egg Temple to unlock % in HK.In Silksong, you find an item in a Weavernest that you bring back to your bellhome to unlock %
>>539503654notable smell is different from stinky. you have a notable smell. i have a notable smell.
>>539503865Yea but you/anon said smellfag, not stinkfag
>>539503654>>539503865Lace is probably the only character in the game who doesn't smell weird/bad by human standards. Chitin has an odor all its own, and one that is not entirely pleasing to the mammal nose.
>>539503385Counterpoint, GMS has a massive fucking ass and personally made Lace by hand.
>>539503232What is she gonna do with that thing..?The weapon not the dumpy.
>>539504043
But was it really necessary for them to strip Hornet naked? And why were they playing with her clothes? Also, for the record, that fat fly definitely had sweet bug pussy all over the back of his neck before he was sent to hell.
>>539504043Insert into penis hole while laughing at you
>>539504327>>539504420NOOOO LACE!!! NOT THE NEEDLE INTO MY PEANUS WEANUS, NOOOOOO!!!
criminal how there isnt a track called "pins and needles"
So what did Lace do all day until Hornet showed up
>>539505249
>>539505249napped, played music with the lesser bugs, napped some more, spied on the commonfolk wishing she too could be so simple minded
>>539505606So...Quasimodo if he was a cute girl, basically
>>539505698>Quasimodo if he was a cute girl, basicallythats rapunzel
>>539505249Nap, followed by another nap
>>539505606Don't forget that she would often murder people for sport for the heinous crime of existing in her domain. Kind of funny that gets glossed over, but I guess bug morality is a bit different.
>>539505828Rapunzel was in some tower in the middle of nowhere, Lace can at least spy on the other bugs below like Quasi does the townsfolk.
>>539505828Lace as Rapunzel, me as the dashing and charismatic Flynn Ryder accidentally rescuing her!
How do you unlock the door to the right of the Ant Queen? Is it an NPC quest or a troll?
>>539506243You need to ________________________________________________it's a troll
Why was hornet hunting vessels in hk again?
>>539507659To prevent them trying to break the Dreamer's seals I would guess
Man, "twisted child" achievement is impossible.
>>539507803it was pretty hard, one thing I found is that you can just stop and the boss will take a long time before doing the next attackyou can literally wait out the ground spikes and you won't get attacked for some reason
the amount of silk you can generate and therefore heal with wanderer just by almost face tanking and hitting away is no jokehow people using this think they're so superior to tool users is beyond me
HOrnet becoming a god is bad you seeIt's much better for the abyss to come and destroy everything
>>539508720I don't have to face tank anything. I just like ending the fight faster without having to spend shards.
>>539508720Don't forget the critical hit mechanic.
>>539507659To stop them from killing the Dreamers, releasing the infection, trying to kill and replace the Hollow Knight, failing, and then making everything worse as a result of their failure.The reason she lets you go is because the Knight managed to actually prove himself capable of defeating and replacing the Hollow Knight for real.
>>539508850its not for her anon. deep down she wants to settle down with a cute bug bf in her bell homeshe will come around on kratt probably
>>539509195>deep down she wants to settle down with a cute bug bf in her bell homeanother love to outlive
>>539467380>mysterious quest to meet at the stage>smiling before the fight even starts>Trobbio ascends, not even corrupted by void>still has a disappointingly small health pool but gets some cool enhanced movesAs promised. I, Anonymous, hereby renounce my right to criticize Silksong, and retract all prior derisive comments regarding the intelligence and integrity of Team Cherry.
>>539509195imagine the sounds of sex reverberating off the metallic walls of a bell home
>>539410721fixed it for you
>>539510014She's really good at imagining the apple! In fact, her apple looks a lot like my apple!
>>539509656Glad you enjoyed Tormented Trobbio. He made me glad I'm not prone to epilepsy because he would have killed me.If the Grimm Troupe ever comes back, I want to see Trobbio join them for a third encounter where he fully embraces being a furious and wrathful villain.
>>539510113so similar, in fact, that they may be the same apple. did you find yours in a room full of moving sawblades and spiked surfaces ?
Man, Karmelita is so fun it almost makes up for how fucking horseshit Coral Tower was. Almost. But not really.
>>539510350no, its on a wooden table in a black room with a singular light above it, and it has a yellow splotch on the bottom near the little nubbins.
>>539510014But I don't look like that. Made me kek though.
>>539510230>Grimm Troupe DLC where they show up to recruit Trobbio and Hornet tries to interfere with the ritual>Nightmare King Trobbio in Pharloom's Godhome>Hollow Knight: Stagefright released in 2038>People start naming their kids TrobbioTrust the plan.>>539508720Everyone is superior to tool cheaters.
>>539511461you're so skillful anon you beat the streamer game
>>539508850She doesn't want to become a god though and it seems like it would be bad for Pharloom, they'd be replacing one tyrant with another since Hornet would cease to be herself.
Contact damage feels weaponized against you in a really unpleasant way this time around. I'm 60 hours in and that feeling's never gone away. Good example is that Karmelita will sometimes take a single step forward, randomly, which serves no purpose besides making it so you're never ever safe dashing into her or trying to get a 2nd hit in under any circumstances. This is endemic everywhere in Silksong. Like, fuck off game. Let me fucking play. Stop forcing me to be so artificially conservative in my approach.
>>539509656Yeah I loved both Trobbio fights, dude is great. And since he survived there is a real chance he could be involved in DLC content.
>>539510431Coral Tower was fun, it was as if I was back in the Colosseum. And it was cool getting the red spires to kill enemies through positioning.There wasn't a single Heart boss I didnt like, honestly. Act 3 was a hoot.
>>539512236That's what beast is for you unga nigger.
>>539509195>its not for her anon. deep down she wants to settle down with a cute bug bf in her bell homeAnon all her love interests in this game are women...
>>539512595Based. Only things I wished were different is that Khann was a bit stronger, and that you stayed in the dream on death so that you didn't have to play the needle every time you fuck it up.
>>539512595Coral Tower is like coliseum if your magic is dogshit in comparison, your air combat tools are dogshit in comparison and the air enemies are 10x more obnoxious, and you're super cucked in terms of "get off me" buttons and crowd control. Gank fights in Silksong generally feel like ass in comparison to Hollow Knight, and Coral Tower weaponizes every last facet of why they're bad to make the single most unfun level of any game I can think of in recent memory. I had more fun learning how to fight Bed of Chaos for the first time than Coral Tower.
>>539512721I wouldn't say all.
>>539513153KILL HIM
IS THE WISP THICKET TIED TO THE GRIMM TROUPE??THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION IN THIS MATTER
>>539513131Rune Rage FUCKS in Coral Tower, I wish I could replay it on a proper shaman build.>I had more fun learning how to fight Bed of Chaos for the first time than Coral Tower.To be fair the firebomb skip makes Bed of Chaos actually fun since the fight is over in like 20 seconds. But otherwise nah, it was fun managing all these new enemy types. Still wish we got a proper zone like Lost Verdania, but I get that they wanted to make each segment feel "distinct" from one another.
>>539513153Sherma does not know what sex is, leave that poor boy alone
>>539513291No they seem to be merely a cluster of fucked up weirdos
>>539513305The new enemy types are literally the most cancerous enemies in the entire game, they exist solely to force you to do clawhook as an approach tool, so they can chuck shit in your face while you're zipping in to send you into the spikes. You say they're good but they're the best example of why air combat is bullshit in this game. There's no cheap fireball spell you can use to tell these fags to fuck off, the closest spell equivalents are massively more punishing to use because of how fucked up the heal economy is, and your tools have finite ammo so are useless in protracted wave fights like these. All it amounts to is there being way more situations where you just can't deal with the mobs because of either positioning or secondary enemy pressure, and you just watch like a bitch for them to wander back over. Insufferable. Air combat in Silksong is so much worse than in Hollow Knight it makes me genuinely wonder if they made Hollow Knight by mistake or if they were actually retards the whole time and the real genius were the backers tardwrangling them.
>>539513430>Sherma does not know what sex isHe's gonna find out soon enough.
>>539513291Nah they're just weirdo fire worshippers.
>>539513305early promo material suggested the coral area would have been a full zone but it seems it was replaced by the Blasted Steps and it was rewritten to be a lost era probably destroyed by Pharloom like they did with Verdania
I think I'm almost finished act 2. If I didn't finish all of the wishes before finishing it, can I still clean them up later to access act 3?
>>539513881Yeah its kinda crazy how much Act 3 stuff was in the reveal trailer and how so much of it was scaled back. I'm sad at the loss of a proper ant city of bone. But I guess we'll see what DLC adds, those steel dudes are probably coming back.>>539513950Yeah but try to get as much as you can done before Act 3 just for the ease.
So you guys think TC is going to make another hollow knight? Hollow knight: Lace edition? Or after all this time they'll move on and try to make something else entirely?
>>539514441hard to say. i hope so but i wouldn't blame them for switching to a new IP to try new things. they can always come back to Hollow Knight in the future.
>>539514441I could see them making another one, they seem to love the genre and the ending definitely leaves room for more, be it Hornet, Lace or a brand new protagonist. By all accounts they had a blast making Silksong and its a huge success so they have the creative freedom to do whatever they want. I wouldnt expect another game for at least 5 years though, especially since they have "ambitious plans" for the dlc.
>Faydown Cloak makes you immune to cold airoh thank god
>>539514641Moths are beloved friends
>>539514641delete this post
>>539514765Higher beings, these words are for you alone: Fuck moths, fuck spiders, fuck mantises, fuck voidshitters, fuck technopunk, fuck trees, fuck double damage spikes, fuck paid benches, fuck aboveground settlements and fuck sawblades.
>>539515010>t. Unn
>>539515097Unn was a cuckold
>>539514619Hornet as the protagonist but Lace as the player two in an optional co-op system
>>539495603But the knight is born of two higher beings and void, meanwhile hornet is just one higher being, it's obvious which is stronger.
They don't want you to know this, but The Pale King fucked the absolute shit out of Unn on multiple occasions.
>the first conceptual map of PharloomNeat
>>539515802
>>539513881They basically explain why it got removed (https://www.acmi.net.au/stories-and-ideas/from-ludum-dare-to-pharloom/) if you read between the lines:> He cites the ever-present influence of ‘The Citadel’ as a guiding principle in the design of Silksong’s world, Pharloom. The holy city towers over the entire world, with an excessive, baroque design to awe and overwhelm players; who feel Pharloom’s presence in almost every corner of the map, long before reaching it. Little outposts throughout the world mimic the city’s ornate gilt architecture, signalling their allegiance; other areas, crippled by years of extraction and exploitation, reveal the darker side of The Citadel’s absolute power.> “We're thinking about the Citadel at the top of the world, and what's around it – what you would expect to find, where that could lead you, and who you might find there? What might they ask you to do, and if you did do it, what would that mean? And where would that leave you?”Cant have a beautiful water kingdom next door to the resource plundering Citadel...
>>539516068That is what I assumed. The final steps to the Grand Gate being a beautiful and inspiring place? No, not harsh and oppressive enough, fuck it up and fill it with sand.
>>539515802Actually my bad, this one predates it. Game development is fascinating.
>>539516257It definitely used to be a beautiful place before they stole all the fucking water.
How do I kill these lily pads
>>539516291>Lifeblood Spire>Song Eater>Mansion in Greymoor>Pharloom formerly called Loomland>VOID CULTThey had some crazy shit in mind from the very start.
>>539516291>Loomlandlol
Instead of coming up with a goofy ass convoluted plan, why didnt the Pale King just ask the Seer for the dreamnail?
do you see a bug with little eyes and insane eyebrows? or does he have big, closed eyes with two lil nostrils
>>539517565Closed eyes and little nostrils. Mooshka has little eyes and a cool mustache.
>>539517565I thought the fleamaster had two big eyes and bead eyebrows for 90% of the game
>>539517565Big closed eyes with two small nostrils. For whatever reason some bugs have nostrils on their face/mask.
pavo and grindle are god-tier and peak as the kids say
>>539517847Grindle x Kratt art when
>>539517847I love Grindle. Just an honestly greedy little gremlin man. His design is cute and his voice is funny and he doesn't give a shit about anything except stealing.
>>539517978They team up to molest as many women as possible
>>539505606>>539505879can such creatures dream?
Crests fall off hard once you start getting stuff like weighted belt and longclaw that completely nuke any advantage crests like reaper or hunter give you over others
>>539494448Now that the Lord of Shade ending is canon, this means Pure Vessel walking out of the room means he was alive right? at least Hollownest has a leader still among them. It's not that I don't trust Sherma to carry Pharloom but he could easily be exploited with how naive he is.
>>539518557Dream No More is still potentially canon>but muh ShadelordWe see the Shadelord depicted in a weavernest so Godhome isnt the only factor for that existing.
>>539496813>mother Silk is much strongeronly physically. The Radiance requires the power of the Moth tribe to invade dreams in order to even touch it. She's on a whole other level compared to GMS.
>>539518557a leader that can't fucking talk and has only one arm
>>539494448help on finding main path to coral area? only place i can think of is this closed opening in Blasted Steps
>>539518983Snoop around where the Pinstress lives
>>539497504>We shall see once the Godhome DLC comes outThe DLC seems to be about the kingdom of Steel, they are the ones that learned how to harness and contain the Void, Hornet is not getting a Godhome ending, because that's already her normal ending. She doesn't want to be god.
folks weren't lying about bilewater. It really is a huge pain in the ass
>>539500237The word you're looking for is Royalty. She's part of royal families from several lines.
>>539519035FOUND IT LETS GOOOO man i should have seen the damn claw interactive thing when i came here before, appreciate it.
>there is a questline about Hornet getting an abortionMetal
>>539519597Hornet forcibly impregnated against her will and then goes on an abortion quest.
>>539519597>>539519865and that chinese guy was saying there were no ero elements, guess he was wrong
In hindsight it's amusing that Lace gave her dramatic speech and pretended to die at the end of her second fight. Makes her smack of Trobbio. What was the point of this?
>>539520079I like that she was laying there for approximately 12 ingame hours for me while I finished quests.
>>539520079She's just full of angst and doesn't have enough outlets for it.
SHAWL
>>539520212She was laying there when you arrived, she was laying there when you left. She doesn't have anything better to do than nap.
>>539520079She was probably watching Trobbio and taking notes>Oh shit thats a good idea, she'll be all over me
>>539520079The funniest thing is seeing how short the drop off the sides of that arena is when coming back down.
The fucking escape sequence in the Abyss is going to make me break my keyboard.
>>539520470even that is a rehash
>>539520470That part made me cum my brains out, it was so fun. If I was bad at the game I could see it being frustrating though.
>>539520340It wouldn't surprise me if she was a huge Trobbio fan, going to his shows or stage plays or whatever it is he does.
>>539520709I mean she has to approve at least tacitly of him being there, he's not a haunted puppet he's just some dude hanging out.
>Weaver, in quarter part, last of their line, staked to service. Tracked and taken beneath the City of Steel. Eight Choristors, twelve Envoys lost to task.Wait, there's a Weaver in the City of Steel? Why did they take her there? And 1/4th too. Thought they would bring her to the Citadel instead.
>>539521006I assume they meant "taken" as in captured. Kinda assume thats where Widow is from since she's been staked.
>>539520705I swear to God, it's like the platforms are placed like 1 pixel too far sometimes and I whiff the clawline.
Grand Mother Silk is a pale spider right? The lazer web move's cutscene has her unleashing more arms and her face seems to turn into a similar one to that of the weavers.
Was anyone else expecting another Fourth Chorus boss when they got to that part of the Underworks? It seemed like a pretty straightforward set-up, two of them are hanging there, could've had one woken up and then half way through the fight the other wakes up. Hell would've been even more fucked if it was an Act 3 boss that only activated when Void Threads got to them.
>>539521006All of those have the same format of Target, Sentence, Location and Casualties.>Target: Weaver, in quarter part, last of their line.>Sentence: Staked for Service>Location: Tracked (As in Found or Hunted) and Taken (As in Captured) beneath the City of Steel>Casualties: Eight Choristors, twelve Envoys lost to taskLike the other anon says that one specifically is probably Widow. If they'd actually managed to bring Hornet in hers would have said she was taken from Hallownest.
>>539520212True!
>>539521228Maybe they'll add more bosses to existing areas, like how Hive Knight happened. Underworks not having a boss kinda sucks and a remixed Chorus could spice things up.
>>539521078Oh yeah it was Widow, didn't connect the dots>>539521269They did mention "Pale King's Kingdom to capture the half-weaver"
>>539521349specifically it was the "Kingdom of the White Wyrm"
>>539521225She made the Weavers in her image so I assume so. But she's a weirdass spool and I doubt she even counts as a traditional bug.
>>539521345Yeah I could see that being possible. I think of the areas in the game Mount Fay is fine as is even though it lacks an Act 2 boss since it's the big platforming segment of the Act, Memorium could do with a proper boss though, the area reminds me a lot of the setting from Metroid Fusion so maybe it could have a thematically creepy boss akin to The Unraveled (although preferrably not as boring). Also even though The Slab has both First Sinner and Broodmother, it doesn't really feel like I ever conquered the area, maybe I was just expecting some really big warden guy who was physically imposing to be a boss in the area.
So is Radiance a notch above the other higher beings (aside from Shade Lord and maybe Nightmare Heart), the whole only being able to be attacked within the dream of the Hollow Knight just seems distinctly more powerful than what Silk (prior to voiding out) or any of the pale beings in HK1.
>>539521643Memorium was so cool, I loved the overgrown zoo aesthetic. Very clever way to reuse assets. But yeah it was aching for a boss. Frankly I think the Voltwyrm would have fit there perfectly but oh well. Hopefully they add some cool creature to it!
B U G
>>539521643It'd be thematic if the boss was some sort of grounds keeper that could summon enemies from all the biomes.
how do i get up there? the other side is full with spikes, i can almost do it by pogoing but not enough
>>539521738I think only being able to be fought in dreams and coming back as long as they're remembered makes them a strong contenderOf course no physical form makes them have to rely on who they can possess so it's more of a trade-off
>>539521586>Why does Lace have such a huge ass?>Her mom looks like THATYeah, I think it's kind of obvious.
>>539521809>>539522069I was thinking given I think players would probably find Memorium before Voltnest, that maybe the boss could be like a Pilgrim that's been overcome by the Volt-Anemone. But yeah a groundskeeper could work as well, would be kinda funny if they reworked the Giant Flea boss, so initially you fight the Groundskeeper on his own in one of the rooms and then when you find the Giant Flea he takes control of it and the fight ends up being the Groundskeeper's fight with the Giant Flea as his mount.
>>539522163Yeah that's true, I do wonder if the Everbloom would've had a similar effect against the Radiance as it did against the Void, I don't remember us ever seeing such an interaction. Otherwise the Radiance is insanely dangerous cause even after doing their best to contain it, Hallownest still got infected to the various edges of the kingdom. Nightmare Heart seems to at least be contained by the constraints of the Grimm Troupe (i.e. having to be called to dying kingdoms) and The Void although extremely dangerous to those that wander in its territory doesn't seem to seek domination and only becomes a proper threat when it's given focus (i.e. through beings like the Knight and Silk as major examples but also Kingsmould, Lace and the Collector for more minor instances).
>>539521586Wasn't the Radiance in part also a fountain pen point?
>>539521738I don't think so, it's just a different niche, Silk has her own BS, the radiance never showed the ability to create life for example.
>>539492808Hornet again, she'd be bug Samus
There's no Zote equivalent therefore this sequel is inferior
>>539523564There is Garmond who mogs Zote
>even doe the knight is much cooler>>539495603but what about edo tensei nuu cells knight?
>>539498007Based>>539498527homo
>>539523023>>539521586>Ghost is a tits man, and an ass man.
What are these things hanging everywhere?
>>539498051Try to act cool while getting a massive crush on her, I guess.
>>539523946
>>539500874I can see it giving people trouble if they aren't aggressive enough and are generally pretty noob. It's a lot easier if you assblast one of the adds asap but I can imagine some noobs are scared and just wanna dodge. Can you get multiple add phases if you suck at killing the boss?
>>539501638i dont rly care hehe
>>539524846Maybe raw materials? Coal and such.
>>539494448Nyleth bossfight was gay. Cheesed that shit with tools
>>539525690It's such an easy fight desu, did it without tools pretty quickly, quite liked the fight too
>game sets up GMS as the big evil villain>all the evil church stuff the citadel was doing was because of the Weavers and GMS was already asleepWHY ARE PEOPLE LETTING THE SPIDERS OFF THE HOOK, ITS THERE FAULT
>>539525690I thought it was fun. Seth was the more traditional boss and Nyleth had a bit of a gimmick.
Is it just me, or Silksong seems like was released with pre-installed DLCs? It seems like some content is very DLC-like.
>>539525943It's kind of hard to tell how much was GMS and how much was the Weavers. The Weavers clearly set shit up to make sure that GMS stayed locked away for as long as possible, but GMS was also determined to gather as much silk as possible in order to sustain Lace.
holy shit i am sick of the fucking docks and their cunt shortcuts that don't stay open
>>539526052Somewhat related to your post but I don't think the DLCs SilkSong gets are going to be super game changing in terms to the ending like Godhome was.Especially considering the godhome endings are likely the canon ones now.>but dream no moreI don't see Hollow next to Ghost at all, meaning he's probably still alive in Hallownest.
>>539526052I dont think so, I think the game just had a bunch of scopecreep. All the Act 3 stuff was very clearly planned from the start and I think the width of the journey just expanded.
I don't know what the hell to do with the third Sprintmaster race. I get hung up on all the platforming and he just sails by.
um... garmond isn't showing up for me in act 2? did i brick my save?
>>539527379Budget your silk so you have enough to double hookshot over the second air portion. Pretty sure Weaverlight helps.
>>539526219Godhome ending was a mindfuck, tho. How can you discern anything from it?.. Dream No More is much more clear on what happened.
>>539527584? God home is really easy to decypher>Ghost atunes to the gods of godhome through combat>Confronts the radiance when the godseekers seek audience with her because they want a strong god to worship>Kicks her fucking ass>Ghost ascends to the God of Gods, King of Shades from all the asskicking he did>BTFOs radiance>Void leaks out and he erupts into the real world, or his exit is closed off by the flower if you gave it to the godseeker.>Radiance is dead so infection fades from Hollow Knight, letting him leave and he and Hornet confront each other.It's not that hard to understand.
>>539526219If Hollow Knight was chilling in Hallownest how the fuck did the citadel bugs capture Hornet
>>539527848He was sleepy
This entire late game is just stuff I don't want to do. Really hard, really annoying mini-games and bullshit-hard boss fights with annoying-ass runbacks. I don't feel thrilled or accomplished when I win anymore, just relived that I don't have to do that anymore. This isn't fun. I hate to drop a game at 95%, but that might be what's going to happen.
>>539527848Did you encounter the slab imprisoning section of the game? It is NOT hard to snatch and grab hornet.Also he's a cripple. It's not like they're near each other 24/7He probably didn't even know she was kidnapped and thought she just disappeared out of the blue.
>>539527915>>539527984I think some people are just sleeping on Dream No More, you have a built in excuse for Hornet being weakened from the black egg, you have no Hollow Knight around to defend her, you have her aware that the Radiance has died due to Ghost, it just works smoothly. Not saying people are wrong if they feel Embrace the Void works but it bugs me when people act like it is THE true ending.
>>539528057>you have a built in excuse for Hornet being weakened from the black eggHornet says she was weak from the journey, not from the begg.
>>539528135Yeah because they had a seal ok her. But how the fuck did they capture her when she was with Hollow Knight outside the egg, healthy and fine, in the Embrace the Void ending? They sent like 20 bugs.
https://youtu.be/LVHXfw_gyBo>Silksong an elevated DLCThis is such a stupid thing to say that it comes off disingenuous. Was Yahtzee always such a contrarian?
>>539528197Hallownest is big dude. It's a huge ass kingdom. You could easily argue that they simply weren't together when it happened. Again it's not hard to kidnapped hornet with sealed cages when getting caught off guard by a single attack gets her thrown into the Slab.
>>539528282He's always been a contrarian who defends shit takes with "I'm just being a comedian". Not sure why you'd even watch him for reviews.
>>539527814The Knight is either mindless rampaging void ocean flooding the universe or is banished to somewhere even farther than dreams, unable to escape for eternity. I dunno how it's compatible.Dreamers are supposedly alive in Godhome Ending, so if Herrah the Beast is still alive, it is confirmed to be Godhome Ending.
I think some of these bosses should drop rosaries. Its honestly fucking weird that the Last Judge doesnt explode into rosaries. All the other judges have them and she kills unworthy pilgrims!
>>539528532You can kill dreamers in godhome ending. Also we don't know exactly what flower ending exactly entails for ghost besides not erupting in hallownest, Ghost can easily exit dream worlds. He's just not rampaging.
>>539518915As if you needed more than one arm to fight and anything more than aura to rule.
>no coliseum>only 2-3 boss refights>no white palace and only a mini path of painI assume DLC will fix this to some degree but from the final HK DLC release to Silksongs release its been about 7 years. In that time they couldn't have added some of this stuff I mentioned? Really?
>>539529031The game has assloads of content and will get more dlc, I dont have a problem with how much is in it at launch. Godfinder is in the code so thats happening, just gotta be a little patient.
>>539528197They didn't immediately capture her right after the HK ending anon. You are to discern that sometime has passed between HK and Silksong.
>>539529363Hornet mentioned that she forgot how it's like to help simple folks, so Hallownest is either never recovered, or it's not been that long.
>>539529363Where is the evidence that a long time has passed
>>539522105Drop down, do the growth gimmick to climb up.
Are rumblings in Hunter's March and Far Fields gonna be important in Act 2, or is it an Act 3 thing?
Just curious: how has the general sentiment been toward the Moorwing nerf?As someone who beat it pre-nerf, I almost regret it myself. I would've had a more fun time I think doing it with the nerfs in place.
>>539530589I skipped it via Flea Caravan. It appeared only deep into Act 2 when I was already overlevelled.
>>539530589I only encountered it in Act 2 cuz of the flea caravan, didn't seem too hard of a boss
>>539530589I beat him on my speedrun tonight and I didnt feel a difference. I'm sure some small changes were made but it felt like the same mechanical fight.
>>539530589I don't think anything in Silksong needed to be nerfed.
>>539531321I think they should only nerf the input reading of flying enemies, especially those in bilewater and conduct.They are just frustrating and boring, notably in early game when you don't have clawline.
>>539531153blades don't do double damage and he is a bit less aggressive I thinkor at least if the blades do double damage it seems to trigger differently/less easily (like in the way some enemies either do 1 or 2 damage)
>missed the nude hornet prison sceneFUUUUUUCK
>>539531489>especially those in bilewaterThose fat mosquitoes? Aren't those one of the easiest flying enemies? They just see you then dash at you. I don't think they even try to dodge you.
>>539531660Better that you didShitters who got caught now have their cloaks smelling faintly of digusting fly
>>539531863Very random selection of quotes, half of those arent even from the slab flies
>>539530589Pandering to shitters
>>539530589This is an unfathomably faggot opinion to have. Kill yourself
Frankly no boss has given me as much trouble as Beastfly round 2, though it seems I missed some bosses like the ant Queen which I'll come back to later
>>539493825I NEED Hornet in a frilly dress.>>539522105Go right, up, and left.
>there are a ton of unused Vespa sprites>we have a built in method to fight her via memory shenanigansBet she'll be added as a boss post red memory. Hive Knight 2.0 baby!
>>539494448So what is the easiest control scheme to play Silksong on? Keyboard, Switch, PS, Xbox, Joystick?
>>539533528>true ending unlocked by beating the Pantheon of Hallownest & Pharloom.>Ghost replaces Hornet 1, Vespa replaces Hornet 2 and the Lord of Shades replaces Absolute Radiance as the final boss.
>>539532576Are you going to cry?
>>539533807No idea, but I'm too used to keyboard to even attempt anything else.
>>539533807...easiest? They're all easy unless you use the stick instead of dpad on controllers, I guess everyone knows the PS controller dpads suck too, but besides that you should just use what you're comfortable with.
>be faggot mantis ruler>your country gets obliterated by the CitadelLet it be a cautionary tale to any wokie here who feels inclined to swing that way.
>>539525943>WHY ARE PEOPLE LETTING THE SPIDERS OFF THE HOOK, ITS THERE FAULTWho was doing the Whiteward experiments, sleepy GMS or the Weavers or just the citadel continuing on after both were gone? I guess she made Lace and Widow so it must have been GMS. The Weavers were basically just born, hung out for a bit, got pissed off at GMS and then left with a few being imprisoned and GMS sending out search parties to try and find the others.>>539528282I like Yahtzee but his opinions are flat-out retarded and bad most of the time. He's a bit like Dunkey but doesn't occasionally have good opinions beneath the irony.>>539534845Meanwhile, the CHAD Mantis tribe of Hallownest doing whatever they want because the Pale King was too scared to try and conquer them.
>>539498010>voidheart description:>Unifies the void under the bearer's will.Please pay attention next time bro, the vessel have wills that is why the plan was doomed from the start
>>539498010>voidheart description:>Unifies the void under the bearer's will.Please pay attention next time bro, the vessel have wills that is why the plan was doomed from the start>>539507803Mother Silk is one of the easier bosses to nohit, just put in some more attempts champ
>>539528282Silksong is way more than an elevated DLC but the overall point of "if you didn't beat P5 in Hollow Knight, you aren't the intended audience for this game" stands. I beat P5 in Hollow Knight and I still think Silksong goes way too far with the "oooooooooh look at Mr Tough Guy here thinking he's good at videogames, how about we fucking ruin your air moveset and put your spells on spirit emblems huh how about that guess you feel pretty stupid" moments go way too far. The game genuinely does feel like it was made for their Discord playtesters who've all got 20,000 hours in the dev build, and nobody else. For those guys who've been practicing the speedrun cheevos and Radiant difficulty fights for 7 fucking years I guess it's fine, but for everyone else it's obnoxious as fuck.
>act 3>just exploring the map>notice a weird bug in blasted steps>it runs away and I can't hit it>play music>it calls me a friend spider and tells me to follow it in a hurry>realize that it's ZazaNOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>539507803Took me all of 10 minutes
>>539535241It's been years since I played HK and Silksong isn't nearly as difficult and obnoxious as people have been trying to claim.I'd even say that the actual most obnoxious thing in the game is having to take the Bell Beast to the Bellway before ALSO taking the Citadel vent tube to wherever else when trying to clean up the map, and even that isn't anything egregious.
>>539508160You can kill the spikes anyway so why bother?
>>539535124The Mantis Tribe had a deal with Pale King where they'd keep Deepnest's beasts away from the City, they even still uphold that deal despite everything that's happened.PK wasn't really a conqueror, he just made deals with the other leaders to keep everything balanced and peaceful.The only things he actually hated was the Radiance, the Soul Sanctum's experiments and outside invaders like the Blackwyrm.
>>539535782you can kill the steel spikes? are you sure?
I’m a shitterBut I still beat every fight and challenge in the game without cheese tactics like tool spamI only first tried a few easy fights like Lace 1, First Sinner, and Craw FatherMost fights took me 7+ attempts, many took 12+I even died to some regular enemy gauntlets, sometimes multiple timesI also struggled with HK years ago when I played itHow the fuck is the game too hard when I can chew my way through it without guides, without skill, and with minimal time waste? This is not some obscenely difficult game only for hardcore gamers. You just have a bad mentality. You are not entitled to a free win.
>>5395359162 hits
why is /vg/ the only working board?
>>539535575The constant fucking whining about the difficulty is obnoxious
>>539535575There's no way you could believe that unironically. The shard system by itself is proof of how designed-to-be-ragebait Silksong is, since there has been near universal consensus that spirit emblems sucked in Sekiro and it's inconceivable that Team Cherry wouldn't know that given how long the development was; they did it anyway because those negative feelings are the intended experience. There is simply no way a human being could design and playtest the flyer AI and think "yeah this is fun and not obnoxious as fuck." They saw how there were widespread complaints about how the first 2 hours of HK sucked because you had no abilities and had to spend time grinding for basic shit like maps, and then made that part of the game 4x as long in Silksong and made you have to grind for way more shit on top of it. This is undeniably a game that's designed from the ground up into trying to bait you into ragequitting at all times because TC evidently thinks that not enough players were filtered by HK.
>>539535381Genuine pain right here.
what is the void, and what is the knight's relationship to it? i thought he took control of it after the last game but i guess not because it's still trying to kill hornet
>>539535381you gotta do it, anon
>>539536392>missing the regular versionBricked save
I've given up I've uninstalled. Shit gets boring after a while. A2 High Halls 70 Hours, I can't be dying every 3 hits I'm almost 30.
>>539536181>The shard system by itself is proof of how designed-to-be-ragebait Silksong isYou are too reliant on tools instead of learning how to combat enemies properly and balancing your combats.>There is simply no way a human being could design and playtest the flyer AI and think "yeah this is fun and not obnoxious as fuck."You have incredible mobility including a grapple. The only flying enemy that comes close to being "obnoxious as fuck" are the bile mosquitoes in Putrified Ducts, and even they have plenty of counterplay by baiting them into vulnerable positions.>made you have to grind You do not have to grind for beads in Silksong. Killing enemies while exploring will give you plenty unless you're constantly dying instead of buying things.
>>539536561Good riddance faggot
>>539536556>missing the steelsoul bossBricked save
>>539536707The pogoing really got to me faggot
>>539536561I kinda gave up too. Also 30. 50 hours in. Started doing miscellaneous stuff since I couldn't get all 3 songs yet for Act 2. This game could be more fun for me if it was more forgiving.
>>539536556Yea I realized it too late. I did get 100% on this save file but I can't complete the hunter's journal. Oh well.
>>539536561>>539536789Niggas, half the thread are 30+ boomers, if not older lmao. No excuse.
>>539536373The Void is a mindless force of nature thst consumes whatever it touches. The Vessels were supposed to be mindless creatures capable of storing the Radiance's infection, but turned out to actually have minds and wills of their own.The Knight is basically the raw power of the Void given form and direction, but he's still just a single being in an ocean of darkness, and despite his power over the Void he simply can't be everywhere at once, nor does he seemingly care to be.
>2nd playthrough for shits n giggles>hereic keeps scuttling away>spam dash+attack>accidentally land 2-3 hits instead of 1 by rolling in the air and make a sick combo>keep repeating>heretic fucking melts>repeat on big reeds>they fucking meltit took me 100 fucking hours to discover the dash/sprint+attack spam combo. I knew that hornet has a different animation when attacking after a dash, but triple attack with zero effort? am I retarded?
Defeated Lost Lace, is there a shortcut in the abyss or I really have to do it all backward again?
do my gaming skills really deteriorate when i hit 30? i'm 23 and i was able to beat lost lace no problem
>>539536789>This game could be more fun for me if it was more forgiving.I'd be more fine with this sentiment if people were just asking for an easy mode instead of insisting that the game is unfair and desperately needs to be nerfed.
I'm old, just hit 50h, I've done every boss and quest possible in Act 2 except Shakra and Second Sentinel, and have obtained all three songs. Most recently did First Sinner and Unraveled. git gud
>>539536561>I'm almost 30.So what? I'm 35 and I finished act 3 yesterday. Took me 69 hours but I managed to 100% it. Aged has nothing to do with it
I have no idea where the last mask shard might be.
>>539536660>You are too reliant on tools instead of learning how to combat enemies properly and balancing your combats.Nta, but I'm a no tool user for the most part. Decided to use tack tools though on Unraveled 'cause it seemed perfect for it.Took me a try or two to get used to using it. At some point I used them all on him, and he was still up and kicking. Didn't even get to his Phase 3 yet. They were poisoned too. By the time I gave up on it, I used over half my shards (I started at max). If using tools on a single boss reduces my shard count to half, than I think that's too much.Also, since tooling it wasn't enough, I pretty much gave up on that and figured to just fight him without the red tools now, like I did every thing else.>You do not have to grind for beads in Silksong. Killing enemies while exploring will give you plenty unless you're constantly dying instead of buying things.I've lost zero beads to death, and I don't buy shard bundles (since I don't use red tools) and I still feel low on rosaries.
>>539537264Yes but not to an unplayable degree. If you weren't a professional before, you likely won't be reaching top ranks in FPS games any more though. Outside of competitive PvP games, it really doesn't matter that much but it will noticeably frustrate you at times.
>>539537050I wasn't using it as an excuse. Just letting him know we're the same age.>>539537270Yeah, that's what I was asking for yesterday: >>539458691
>>539537203Yeah, it's pretty sick.
>>539536660>You are too reliant on toolsBullshit. Unless you get to the end of the game, you have at most 4-5 attempts at a tool-heavy run before you're drained. In practice that means you're never using them on trash mobs because they must be hoarded for hard content, and then in the hard content you're still not using them until you can win without them. Meaning they're mostly just useless gimmick shit. This is the exact problem Sekiro had, and unless TC is wildly negligent in surveying the field, them adopting this system wholesale means they're simply getting high on contrarian copium.>You have incredible mobility including a grappleFirst, you don't get the grapple until you're 25 hours in, shut the fuck up. Second, Hornet's "mobility" is good for basically nothing except stalling solitary enemies while sneaking in chip damage. Her crowd control and air mobility are dogshit, especially in comparison to HK, to the point where the recommended fix is to use the Wanderer Crest and turn the game back into HK specifically because it is so much better. Difficulty through bad controls is the pinnacle of frustration design and TC should know this. Because the point of the game is frustration.>You do not have to grind for beadsBullshit. Even if you never die, your beads from the level will only be barely enough to fund your next round of map + bench + fast travel wallet rape. Anytime you meet a merchant who's selling something valuable, it's back to the rice fields to farm because the tedious grinding is the point. It is not a coincidence that there's a grinding spot right next to Shakra in basically every Act 1 zone. Silksong is designed from the ground up to tilt you. That is the point. I'd say it's on the same tier as Getting Over It in terms of ragebait design.
>>539537595Isn't Reaper's dash attack an uppercut slash? I don't know what that move in the clip is.
Why is so much of the Choral Chambers huge empty roomsThe City of Tears felt more alive
>>539537840I assume the rooms are void of people since they're mostly dead.
Damn shortstack brat, you need to be corrected....
>reach pile water>follow the signs to the quick travel point>leave>never go back again
>>539537723>Silksong is designed from the ground up to tilt you.Silksong is designed to be a challenge. I and many others enjoyed that challenge despite the fact that you couldn't. Consider for a second that this game isn't ragebait, and is rather just not something you enjoy, and are forcing yourself to play and complain about.
>>539538062I beat Pantheon of Hallownest, suck my cock about this "can't take a challenge" nonsense. You can make a challenge that's still fun, though this was clearly not the point of this game.
>>539538062is this a copypasta?
>>539537989>Silky soft thighjobs from Lace while she makes fun of youImagine
>>539538138I had fun.>>539538148No, but I guess you could make it into one if you wanted to.
silksong isn't the hardest game ever made but the runbacks are aids, can i get a mod that adds more benches
>>539538062>>539538138And to add to this, Ascended Markoth is how Silksong feels almost all of the time to play. That was the absolute lowest point of HK, universally considered the shittiest boss by anyone who got far enough to see everything, but TC apparently feels that this was the model to base all ~60 hours of Silksong around.
Path of pain was a walk in the path compared to doing Bilewater (before discovering the secret bench) holy fuck that whole area is cancer. And fuck whoever keeps demanding supplies for fleatopia.
>>539538025Based and comfy
the problem with silksong is not that it's hard, the problem is that in their quest for a difficult challenging game TC often forgot to also make it funsome bosses are tough but enjoyable to fight. some others are tough but garbage. and most gauntlet rooms are straight up retarded
>people keep crying about bilewater boss>be smart and finish all of act2 first>kick his ass in 2 triesez. You only have yourself to blame.
>>539538619>And fuck whoever keeps demanding supplies for fleatopia.It's Kratt. He just wants you to show up so he can oogle you more.
Are there any mods that show the items you missed?
>>539538931why would you want to do that to yourself?
Just got the cursed ending where you can't heal while fighting mother silk and I have to say, easier than Radiance. The biggest flaw in that fight is that the rocks in phase two start will start falling on the side before the middle is finished and sometimes the needles doing the horizontal swipe will position off screen so you don't know what formation they'll take. Otherwise, fun boss. Quite easy and the runback is lame and annoying.
>>539538931Interactive Map in the OP.
>>539538838and he won't let you use transportation because he wants you to get all sweaty and out of breath haha
>>539538970I have one mask shard left and I'm pretty sure I collected everything according to online map...
>>539538025You know how the quick travel icon is 3 arrows to the right? When I first fell into Bilewater from the vaults I desperately was looking for a bench or quick travel. When I saw the quick travel sign, I thought it was saying "go east" due to it's icon (didn't see the arrow below it pointing south-west). I ended up just going deeper and deeper into Bilewater and ended up in Sinner's Road thinking "Where tf is that fast travel. There's not even a bench here. Is this why people hate Bilewater? I only hear bad things about it."
>>539539030Is bilehaven open to the left if you go in from putrid ducts? It feels like you can skip the big travel by just taking the bench at broodmom's house and jumping down.
>>539539026What a shithead.
>>539539154Dunno. Haven't reach putrid ducts yet. Haven't even beaten bilehaven yet.
Just got flea maps from the warrior flea lady. Can I get all the fleas without Silk Soar, or I need to wait?
Oh, he was doing repairs. I thought he was tryna peep on her.I wonder how many men have seen Hornet naked and lived to this day. She said her mates have died, and she killed all those flies when she took her stuff back. Has Kratt seen one of the rarest things in the world and survived?
>>539539385All fleas by act 2
>>539537989Living bodypillow
>>539539514She wasn't naked in that bath
>>539537989Dire need for an aislop maker to make femboy Lace
>>539539154I think it needs to be opened from bilewater side.
>>539539789>femboy>ai
>>539518557>>539518915Hollow Knight wouldn't be king, but a form of protector that would utterly crush anyone attempting to rob, steal or hurt the communities of Hallownest still remaining Due to him being the biggest guy around and utterly tireless and devoted, life could probably return to those lands in time.
>>539539585Do not fuck a living bodypillow
>>539540312By all means, it doesn't have to be slop, but that would be the fastest way of getting some (of reasonably high quality)
>>539540380I wonder if White Lady would return to being a Queen? AFAIK her state is self-inflicted. Though she gave away her soul-generation thingie to the Knight, so I dunno.And I dunno what's wrong with Unn, AFAIR it's unrelated to Radiance.And Mantis tribe is fine, though I doubt that they would expand much.
>>539540312Piss off, fag.
>>539535575I got 100% on hollow knight, even p5 and steel soul 100% (with minimal cheese). Silksong is easier than OG hollow knight. Granted I only just finished act 2 (even final fight cursed). I think there are two things happening. 1. Liars. People who never played hollow knight saying it's harder because others say it. Leading me to2. People who cheated in HK with broken fucking builds and following boss guides. Or people who never even 100% beat the game. I got my shit pushed in on HK by fighting bosses honorably, and those skills paid off in silksong. No boss killed me more than about a dozen times. Not claiming to be a god gamer or anything, I just accepted the deaths and utilized my good habits I learned from hollow knight. >t. has used exclusively hunters crest and hasn't abused tools
>>539537773Wanderer's Sprint attack chain.
>>539541004>Or people who never even 100% beat the game.I beat Radiance. I don't need to 100% the game.
>>539536181>Whining about shard poornessStop abusing tools, chud. Also use the yellow charm to get more shards from enemies. Lowest I ever got was by spamming them on last judge, dying, and realizing if I kept doing that I'd have issues. So I saved them only for when I got to third phase, and felt comfortable that I was going to win. Since then I've never dropped below 400 shards just by naturally exploring. I use tools in arenas and boss fights and sometimes on random fliers.
>>539540549There’s no laws against the sentient silk, Batman…
>>539531489I'm convinced projectiles track your inputs like Shakra's discs during your duel in greymoor. Google says otherwise but experience tells me what I already suspect.
>>539541343You’re just unbelievably shitty. She throws them at you in a straight line and then they bounce. It’s as simple as that.
>>539541094Lmao wanderers is really busted.
>>539537723>if i can't buy out every single shop i encounter in a non-linear game before the end of the game, you need to grindget a grip, faggot lol
>>539541464No I mean she throws them in the direction you're about to go. I could be about to jump and suddenly a disc is flying straight at me in the air. I know it's true.
>>539531776he is prolly referring to putrified ducts mosquitos that are horrible to fight against. meanwhile the fat flies are indeed shitters.
>>539541627If enemies didn’t do that, they would miss every single player who isn’t standing completely fucking still, you damned nincompoop. Leading your shots on a moving target is one of the most basic principles of using a projectile weapon.
>>539541004Hk bosses are less annoying than silksong's for surethey don't do an attack the same way and then swap the last move for something else when you least expect itthey don't just start to go faster and spam more enemies when they're close to dying (except zote) they don't just stay below ground and wait for their summons to chip you.I did think the true final boss was harder than radiance, but mostly because I was fucking fed up with bosses by then, I wasn't excited at all to fight her, knowing a sped up and new shit on your screen phase was coming as always, and there it was.Hk bosses are very pattern heavy, they always do something after something and so on, so when you finally beat them it's because you figured it out, in silksong it's more he didn't do that retarded move over and over this time and you RNG'd your way to a win by the skin of your teeth
Why does anyone hate Bilewater, The Mist is right there.
>>539541980>when you finally beat them it's because you figured it outabsolutely false. a not so insignificant fraction of people abused i-frames and cheesed all the bosses
>>539541980You weren’t paying enough attention if you think that Silksong bosses didn’t follow patterns. You can bait almost every boss into doing exactly what you want it to with the right movement.
>>539542215just because you saw a speedrunner overcharmed with fury of the fallen doing it doesn't mean normal people did
>>539539385You don't need silk soar for any quests you have open in act 2, it's for act 3 exclusive stuff. Get everything you can do before act 3 done now. Clear the map to the fullest possible extent. You'll regret it if you don't.
>>539542159Because the mist doesn't suck
>>539542469you're claiming nearly nobody did this. i'm claiming a sizeable fraction of people did. these two contradict each other. i've never watched speedruns btw, immediately disproving your assertion
>>539541193>Stop using tools for anything except slightly speedrunning a boss you could kill without the toolsFaggy ass system desu. Fromsoft had the excuse of being the experimenter when they did this and got huge pushback for how underperforming tools were as a result. TC doesn't have that excuse. Willful ignorance or intentionally bad design.
>>539542860>abusing == usingkek, absolutely exposed as a tool abusing scammer >fromsoftnever played one of those games. quit ur bitchin
if the developers give you a dodge with i frames then they expect you to use it on the bossesjust like how the developers this time gave you the ability to spam tools in order to kill bosses from range, intendedif you aren't using the intended mechanics to win that's just a self imposed challenge
>>539541980>in silksong it's more he didn't do that retarded move over and over this time and you RNG'd your way to a win by the skin of your teethIt's felt that way for me sometimes. Partly why I don't want to do another run if I ever beat this one.>>539542159What's wrong with The Mist?
>>539540549Is Lace warm or cold? On one hand, she is a silk golem. On the other hand, the silk is seemingly alive and made of soul energies. So does she have a bodily warmth, or is she as cold as an inanimate object?
>>539543027You can spam tools, it’s within your rights, for sure. But to do so and then turn around and embarrass yourself complaining about how you ran out of shards just seems a little retarded. Not saying you did that, I’m using the royal you here.
>>539542686>>539543070Alright then, what's the mystery!? I've been in here for an hour, how's it solved!?I followed those goddamn moths until they bring me to a halfway point, after which I'm stuck in a loop of murdering banshees.
>>539542948Yeah you're not really using the tools if your only intended use for them is to shortcut the last phase of a boss after you're already able to win anyways without them. Gimmick shit. Why even have them in the game at all? This system is cringe, has always been cringe, and will always be cringe. You are injecting copium straight into your bloodstream with every word you type, loser.>Nyoooooooooooooooooo you didn't byeat the gyaaaaammmmmm-Cope.
>>539543027>devs intentionally gave you a way to kill a boss in 0.2 seconds to where you don't even know what its attack patterns areyeah, okay buddy
It's been long enough; What's the most objectively unlikeable enemy in the entire game, anonsFor me it's the triple shot mosquitos. They're as bad as primal aspids were. They float out of reach, their attacks track your movement perfectly and they've got enough health to be more than annoying. Second worst would be the flying rag mites that swoop. Flying enemies in general just fucking suck really.
>>539543104Most likely same as our body temperature
psstyou can buy shards for cheap from the deep docks shop with the big lady in armorammo is only a mild annoyance
>>539543104Silk is like soul and soul has life and life is often considered warm and gentle ergo Lace is a cold unfeeling rocky pile of garbage that would feel like you're copulating with a wire brush if you touched her.
>>539543259i use them in arenas and on annoying fliers, and never run out of shardsyou use them on boss fights, die repeatedly, and run out of shardsi like the game, you hate the gamei don't whine about fliers, you dowe are not the sameit's almost like the devs gave you the tools to deal with fliers and you horde them to abuse on bosses and then whine about both fliers and shard insecurity. kek
>>539543417You’re just trying to keep her for yourself. I happen to be the world’s leading expert in wire brush copulation, so I’ll have to test this theory of yours.
I love Second Sentinel so much
>>539543284>Wild strawman exaggerations because you know you're out of argumentsToo bad you can't iframe dodge your way through an argument, bitch.
>>539543249You reached the organ already? If you reached there, then you beat the boss and got out?
>>539543249i didn't get it either but you have to play your needolin next to the butterflies and they will fly in the correct direction
>>539543469>No dude you have to use them only in these artificially restricted circumstances because otherwise you get raped by ammo constraints since otherwise you won't earn enough gamer cred for doing the bosses nail-only no magic no dashing no healing no summons no upgrades no armor no blocking no rollingI already told you the system is fucking cringe, stop repeating what I said.
>>539543249You have to keep playing your needolin near the moth and follow them until you reach the boss area. If you're stuck in a loop, you're probably went the wrong way
>>539543818nta but how do you even discover that you need to do that? I had to look it up after getting sick of the gimick. Is there a random npc in some shitty corner that says the glowing bugs like the sound of music or something?
>>539543708What you're saying is I'm here too early? Because I've not fought any boss, from Sinner's Road to Bilewater. Nor do I know what that spoiler is.I was afraid this was a case of being here too early, but I kept making that thought take a backseat, in the trunk.>>539543818>>539543961>you have to play your needolinOH MY GOD!Thank you.
>>539543983They want you to be needolining everything like you dream nailed everything in the first game, so needolining the moths would be natural, but since the needolin sucks so hard nobody does that and the puzzle falls flat. Like, unlike the dream nail, you don't get soul (in fact it costs soul) and you're trapped for way longer. Comparatively, it's useless except for Vaati farming video content.
>>539543983i guess the context being that the butterflies helped you at the opening cutscene, so you would go to them for help again, and cycle through every way you have to interact with them
>>539543661Boiling bhenchod got exposed kek
>>539544104I'll be honest when I learned that needolin'ing every NPC (and some enemies) made them sing a unique song I started doing it for everything I saw that looked vaguely related to silk or was an NPC but never thought to do it for the butterflies. I guess that's on me.
>>539544104If they wanted you to do that, they shouldn't have made it cost Silk. Goddamn annoying when you have a silk ghost scene, but you run out of silk in the middle of it.
>>539543373ThisFarm beads a for a while then buy a gorillion shard bundles, enjoy never running out of ammo unless you're truly awful at the game
>>539544392I just copy-paste previous savefile where shards weren't wasted down the drain yet. Why waste time on grinding to restore the amount you already had before the death when it's a singleplayer game with a save system?..
>>539544371They should have made the nedolin regen silk in exchange for rooting you to the spot and leaving you vulnerable similar to a spider spinning a web instead of costing it. It makes zero sense for it to cost thread when you're rarely going to be using it in actual combat zones.
>>539544052>What you're saying is I'm here too early?There is no too early to my knowledge. You can do in Act 1.Full spoiler In The Mist, you play your needolin on the butterflies and they guide you to the exit. Once this happens like 3 times, you'll be at the Exhaust Organ. You can't miss it. The area is simple and it's a single building. This location also counts as being in Bilewater, though The Mist is Sinner's Road.>OH MY GOD!Ah, nvm. I see you got it now, but I already typed that out.
>>539544795I don't think I would have ever figured it out, I saw no connection between the moths and Weavers.Thank you, though.
>>539545109I'm obligated to give you a hint on the broken tool; You can get one of three variants and the third one (in mt fay) is the best one
>>539545257Silkshot is definitely the coolest, but I think it costing silk kind of defeats the point of it being a tool. I already have silk spells and tools should be independent of that.
>>539545484I'm not that far in, but I kinda prefer stuff like that. Wisp Lantern is one of my favs right now.
>pinmaster boss>teleports around the screen and throws pinsI mean I guess it technically works but its kind of fucking annoying its not a proper duel. I try to give proper fights to pin/nail wielders but if Pinstress is going to act like this I'll put on the cockflies and treat her like an animal
>>539545786I really hate the knowledge that all non-haunted fights with sane/sentient characters is just gonna be 'watch me zigzag all over the screen and smack you with tracking projectiles and only have two frames where I'm vulnerable'. God Shakra is such a fucking bullshit fight
>>539546615Bug Quixote fights with honour and would never throw projectiles.
>>539547212>he doesn't know
So why the fuck is the unraveled one of the few bosses that drop silk hearts ? Also whiteward felt empty as shit, the first time I entered the zone I saw an abandoned medic ward and I 100% expected the map to be filled with weird and spooky shit that would jump on you any second, but no, just a whole lot of nothing until the boss.
>>539547212oh anon...
>>539547384>>539547452He said "sane/sentient characters." So I'm talking about the normal duel.
Uh... Am I here too early? Breaking the chains won't immediately start Act 3, right?..
>>539530589As someone who beat Moss Mother pre-nerf, I almost regret it myself. I would've had a more fun time doing it with the nerfs in place.Thats youThats what you sound like
>>539547741That's an optional thing that has nothing to do with Act 3, go ahead.
>>539547432Go talk to the priest in Songhaven, he's got some dialogue about the Whiteward that might answer your first question.
>539547741nta, are the other three sinners bosses too? I had a lot of fun fighting a big dangerous boss that didn't do contact damage
why is everyone gone from bone bottom
finally.. anatomically correct small bug onahornet art is releasing at a steady pace...
Fuck yeah.So, what is the parasite? Some kind of White Lady type thing?
>>539465717>>539470568Better alternative is to make the hitbox solid and slippery when the boss is stunned. This way there's both no contact damage AND you're not inside the boss when it wakes up.
Any good strategy for carrying the supplies to Songclave? The trip is a fucking nightmare, the only way I can even get to the Citadel is through the Blasted Steps.
>>539550114Go through the Exhaust Engine instead.
>>539550114enemies that you kill only respawn if you use a bench, so if you clear them all out then it should be a breeze, and it was for me
>>539549912It's likely to just be some kind of root creature like the one you gave the crying bab too. Seeing as it becomes a dried empty husk after doing the ritual, perhaps it was itself the contaminant and was trying to take Hornet over (and succeeded in the cursed ending, you can see something visibly start to hatch) which makes it even more acceptable that she has it ripped out instead in the cure route.>>539550256nta but>go through bilewaterI'd rather go through blasted steps and through the citadel a million more times than do that route once. And I have.
>>539550114There is also sinner's path and exhaust organ, but I went the blasted steps way.use silkspeed anklets, and if you are worried clear the areas without respawning them.Also remember running into a wall or falling from heights make you lose supply health.
>>539550584All enemies that drop armor shards will respawn on room transition with exception of some big guys like the upgraded flying bug that spins a bunch. Mosquitos and explody bugs are no exception (small mosquitos actually respawn near constantly and I haven't been able to determine if it's only a few times or infinite)
>>539550798well whatever i did was enough to thin the ranks enough for an easy first try run
>>539547741No, it's only one of the best boss fights in the game.
>>539549121Based
>>539550651You don't need to go to Bilewater to reach the Exhaust Organ, just climb the tall room in Sinner's Road then go left and up.
>>539550651You don't go through Bilewater, you go through Sinner's Road. The first room has safe route where you won't awaken any dogs, the second only has three enemies and in the last one you just need to not have the big enemies jump into you while you zoom over them.
Can you make the Cogwork ball come out again if you died to it?
>>539550651Nta but you can reach the mist from sinner's path, you don't need to go all the way to Bilewater.
>>539551124Oh hey I totally forgot about that route. True. Maybe I'll start taking that to do deliveries then. Cheers.
>>539547432>SpoilerFack. That means I gotta fight him then. Thought he'd be optional. Gave up once I saw he has more than 2 phases.Any advice on him? I can't do pogo strikes due to the helmet, yet he's perfect for it. Best time to hit him seems right before he does an attack, but he moves so fast and so tall, that I have trouble dodging his ram. Seems I need to double jump to clear it. I also have trouble dodging his spits due to its speed. Is there a way to predict which direction the spit will go before it launches? I tried parrying the spit too, but it didn't help much (it's bodies after all). Tried poison tacks, and it helps, but it's kinda meh on the amount of damage.Any advice at all?
Anything else fun to do while cursed?
>>539551820Go say hi to Eva
>>539534845His land was going to fall anyway, no successors and all that
>>539551820>elseWhat were you doing that was fun besides talking to Eva?
>>539551992>>539549912
>>539551865FUCK I SHOULD HAVE DONE THATFUCKI'm cured now alreadyWhat happens if you do?
>>539551173you can find a fight with two of them later if the hunter entry is what you want
>>539552192just new dialogue for more obscure lore, really
>>539552347got a transcript?
>>539552192Nta, she stops you from getting closer with a seal, telling the wretch even if it hides in another shellshe won't fall for it.She has a similar interaction if you're overdosed on plasmium.
>>539552478there's also bonus dialogue if you go to her while overdosed with lifeblood
I use tools
>>539552961You beat the game
>>539552961anon you're such a tool
>>539552754Crazy how Hornet let herself get infested with such a dangerous being that it made Eva freak out like that. And Lifeblood being called that is pretty wacky. I wonder if it's a grey goo or creeper (from creeperworld) situation where if too much accumulates, it becomes a planet wiper.
>>539553110>Lifeblood being called that is pretty wackyHave you visited the Wormways in Act 3?
>>539553198I haven't started act 3 yet, Been wrapping up all the side content I can since getting the cursed ending before I bother going for the true ending. I can only imagine now.
You mean I'm only at the start of act 2 and I've already seen every bug in the game? Or does the journal expand after this?
>>539553385It's the midway point. There's lots more to see.
>>539553385You just need that many to get a reward from Nuu
>>539553385There are 237 entries total.
I just realized your needle strike changes based on your crest
>>539553994All attacks in your kit change depending on crest. The witch crest might be the most fun though. Gotta love the way she zips around an enemy when you pogo
So what's the actual strategy to steel soul if most things worth caring about do two masks and most terrain damage comes from non-pogo spikes?
Does Ventrica ruin the courier package like bell beast travel?
>>539555179Rush Hunter's March to buy Fractured Mask then quit to main menu any time it breaks.
>>539555607The problem there is reaching hunter's march (and beating skarrsguard) without dying..
>>539555885Just quit any time you go below 3 masks.
>>539555885Learn to parry. Alternatively, pogo him.I'd be more worried about the arena.
>>539555319Figured it out; yes it does. Fucking god I'm never getting this package of X rated Hornet x Ghost DVD's for a Mister "Not Kratt" in Fleatopia at this rate.
>>539556513Have you tried pre-killing?
>>539556827Won't help me with all the mosquitos and stilkin darting about the place, randomly spawning in random places. Also; most enemies that don't drop rosaries respawn on screen transitionsThe only ones that don't are big fellas like the spitting roaches and big bugs that generally do two masks.
My heart couldn't beat any harder if it wantedJesus christ.
>>539552754Huh, I wonder why Lifeblood is so hated, it was considered blasphemous in Hallownest too
How do you open that fucking door in pilgrim's rest?
Holy. Fuck. That was scary. Fuck you Kratt.
>>539553331>>539557507Go back to Wormway during act 3 and you can kinda see why. Maybe Joni really was a heretic.
>>539557482bro, go through the top, clawline goes through barnaks
>>539557253>BilewaterOof. Didn't know you gotta go through there.
>>539557642From the other side.Take a good look around the bellway station
>>539557836The bilewater into ducts climb is simultaneously the most adrenaline pumping and stressful act I've ever undertaken in a video game. This could get addicting. The job to give the rasher to the servant was nothing compared to that.
>>539557482>3 benches in a relatively dense area.I've never been where you're at, but it's either really peaceful there, or so hellish that the same people that made Bilewater, felt you needed these 3.
>>539558081It's a relatively quiet place but it's also infested with maggot water, big fucking ductcrawlers that jump at you (and pop out of the ground) and the most obnoxious mosquitos that put primal aspids to shame.
>the vesticrest has upgrades that increase the slots>it's a blueHoly fuck I'm cumming
>>539547845That's high level facetiousness. You sound retarded.
Where does the snare setter spawn? It should be in Atla right? I searched every square inch of the place (to my best knowledge) and haven't found it. I found the secret mask shard but not the story item
hmmm?
>>539560604Hit the bells in the same order they ring.
>"Hornet is inherently faster and more skillful than the Knight, so even the base level enemy had to be more complicated, more intelligent,” Gibson said... Instead of scaling back Hornet’s abilities, Team Cherry chose to elevate her opponents.>“The basic ant warrior is built from the same move-set as the original Hornet boss,” Pellen added. >"Hornet’s enemies had to have more ways of catching her as she tries to move away,” Pellen concluded. They're based.
>>539560604>literally just a simon says>someone out there looked at that and said "Wuhhh?? Whuddafuck do I do???"
>>539560938listen dude not everybody had the privilege of growing up with one of these bad boys
>>539561040What in god's name is that travestyThat's just a brandless bop it
>>539561118first of all it was made by hasbro and it was freakin sweet
>>539560669thanks>>539560938>Wuhhh?? Whuddafuck do I do???I said that
>>539536910The duel bosses dont count for the journal completion
>>539561040I have no idea what that or "simon says" are and I figured the puzzle instantly.
>>539561335I didn't know the illustrious DSP, The DarkSydePhil Gaming browsed the same 4channel threads as me. I'm a big fan of your "DSP tries it" videos. Especially the one where you unbox Lightning Returns. The fire alarm in the background really highlighted the urgency in which you need to beat the time trial of the game itself.
Reminder: sex with Lace
>>539561541This but Lace (male) (femboy)
>>539561541she is NOT for sex!
I'm about to go kill Silkmother to start act 3, do I need to beat the optional duels like with Shakra beforehand or risk losing out on lore/a good fight or is there no cause for worry?
>>539561695If not for sex, then what???
>>539562325She's specifically for sex with (me)
>>539562325cuddling
>>539561846Shakra's fight is only for act 2.
>>539562325Marriage
>>539562676What's the prize for winning it? It's pissed me off enough that I might just not bother if it's nothing big.
>>539562795only her hunter's journal page, I think.
>>539562695She does look like she’s wearing a shinto wedding veil, maybe you’re onto something
>>539563108I fucking despair I really do. Got any cheese strats for her? She's actually killing me on the inside and outside.
>>539558214It really is aspid-like. I guess bugs don't really need Radiance's Infection to spit glowing acid.
>>539563429Just be aware of the angle that she’s going to throw her ring at. That’s pretty much it. The time to hit her is after her grounded side to side attack. You just have to learn how to dodge projectiles.
>>539560828Basically instead of nerfing tools, they buffed enemies, which is based. Faggots who like to say "tools are cheating" miss the point entirely. Hell, there's even a quest that forces you to use all the tools.
>>539563769It's not the projectiles that get me, it's the contact damage. She practically teleports into me and does a mask instantlyShit's so fucked
>I jump>Enemy jumps one millisecond earlier>I take damage mid-airWTF, are they telepathic or something? Happens all the time with jumping enemies. They somehow always jump ahead of me jumping.
>>539564139I never had any trouble running into her, I think your movement is probably wack. are you sprinting around a lot or trying to jump up and hit her while she’s doing her teleportation dance? You should just be chilling out and dodging without moving too much until she decides to do her melee attacks
>>539559694In Atla.
>>539564405I genuinely believe this game reads your inputs. Projectiles fly out a milisecond before your character does anything and it's always dead on. Primal aspids had the excuse that it's a three shot and if you're too frantic or not focusing you will get hit but I'm CONVINCED it's the case here.
>>539564405It’s more like>the game tries to teach you a lesson about how to fight enemies that punish you for trying to pogo them constantly >you disregard it>you continue to disregard it>you can only remember the instances where they hit you with their jump because of your idiotic positioning>it turns into a pathology>these enemies MUST be conspiring against you
>>539564550Turns out you were right. When I barely did anything but dodge and pogo off her dash she was incredibly easy. I still think projectiles read your inputs though.
lmaohttps://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxghqz3sTpLA59FGPQ0HOJRijVT3tRSsSU?si=1wD_ZfajrlJh1Q0e
>>539565126>4 hour video on "Silksong is no masterpiece" soonContrarian morons are gonna feast
>>539565021If you have momentum in a certain direction, enemies will take that into account, yes. Even if it is at the very microsecond that you jump, because it’s not really reasonable to program a reaction time into a digital enemy, it just leads to needless complication. You can easily play around this by jumping when you know an enemy is going to fire and then doing a down dash to throw off their prediction.
>>539565126>call something reddit>4channers clap and shriek like circus monkeys
>>539564010They don't have to nerf tools because giving them global ammo is already a giga nerf. Even itt you have people saying that the best way to use tools is to basically never use them, and then you'll be fine. Otherwise, Hornet's needle moveset is a massive downgrade from the Knight's. Don't believe me? Wanderer is easy mode.
>Lace saved meGuess she wasn't dead after allWhat a twist
>>539566256>the best way to use tools is to never use themThats fucking retarded especially once you hit the heart bosses
>>539566256actually one of the stupidest posts about silksong
>>539566335>Especially the heart bosses which specifically don't suck shards away from you unlike any other encounter in the game"More powerful tools" my ass, more like "more powerful tools that you're only using 5% of the time because of how strict their ammo cost is." In the other 95% of the time you're stuck needle-only, and that's strictly a bigass nerf to the player unless you retvrn to tradition with Wanderer.
>>539566806Not an argument. I accept your concession.
Do you have to do the deliveries for 100%?
>>539567025There used to be an achievement for finishing all the courier quests, but I think that was changed in the update.
>>539566256I love how you’re still towing this line. It’s not a case of never using tools, you just have to manage your shard consumption better. How are you going to eat dirt against a boss and blame your toolkit? The tools didn’t mystically influence you to use them knowing that you would die and the shards would be wasted, you made that choice and you died and you lost the shards and you are the one whining and pissing and moaning because a game wasn’t crafted to your specifications. This has to be trolling, because you never say anything worthwhile or insightful about the system other than that it’s bad because you keep dying and wasting all of your shards. Please spare us the whining.
Injector Band + Wanderer crest is basically what the Beast crest was meant to be. Aggressively attack enemy while healing in-between strikes.
>>539563429Wanderer, fast heal, druid charm 2. Then I just went medieval on her and he died pretty quick.The same setup carried me through Lace 2 and GMS.
>>539566829you're just a shitter bending over backwards to find a reason to blame the game even though YOU are the one choosing to not engage with the aspect of the game you're criticizing
Man seeing Pharloom like it is after act 3 starts reminds me heavily of prince of persia sands of timeGoing from a beautiful citadel to a total ruined wreck is my jam
>>539564405Idk about jumps, but I've very confident that they read/see you approaching them. Idk how many times an enemy has moved back, just out of my range, be it flying or land, to dodge my strike by doing a simple step back.
I don't even know if that was a proper boss or what but the two cog wheel instantly killed him lol
>>539567194Consumption of consumables being saved on death never made much sense. Canonically Hornet never died, so where did all those shards went? Evaporated into thin air? The boss' minions never drop any currency anyway, so what's there to save?..Hornet's state was restored into what she was like before the death. Hell, even location being half-destroyed is restored into pristine state. Hence shards should be restored as well.
>>539566972>>539566829/v/ is not sending their best
There are many lives lost that I lament my actions causing. This is not one of them.
This silk abomination doesn't even react to sneedolin playing. She is no bug.
>>539568193She reacts in Lace 2 but you might need the needolin boost tool.
>>539568026forgot pic
I only found one of the 3 sleeping guardians, the one in the spider's village, and I can't find the way to the other two. Kingdoms edge is the only place left for me to explore and I feel I over leveled too much instead of gradually progressing through the game.This is why aimless "open world" is a garbage game design
>>539541668I just now got to P.Ducts. Yeah, these things are pretty bad. Did not think I'd be relying on another enemy to help me from an enemy.
now this is a shortcut
>>539567696I ran out of tools versus multiple bosses. I ran out of tools fighting Unraveled. I ran out of tools fighting the High Halls gauntlet. I came within 50 shards of running dry versus Mario and Luigi. Any time the game actually expects you to burn your tools, you are burning like 400 of them. And furthermore, since enemies only drop like 5 fucking shards and half of them are into the spikes or the water, you are not replenishing them quickly. Anyone who tried actually using their tools for real knows that Silksong is a prolonged drought of shards where you spend hours reclaiming the ammo you burned in sub-10 attempts, and gradually learning how little you're actually expected to use them. "Durrrrrrrrrrrrr just use your tools" more like durrrr just suck my dick, faggot.
>just got to the meat delivery questLiterally how. I thought I'd go through Greymoor > sinners Road > Exhaust > to the dining room but that route is way too long and the meat degrades way too fast as soon as you leave greymoor. Are you really supposed to do the entire thing completely on foot? Can I at least take the elevators in the citadel?
>>539567194"Manage your shard consumption" by your own opinion means waiting to use them until you could win without them, which means they have no reason to exist. By definition, this means they aren't intended to be a consistent part of your arsenal. As a game mechanic, they are redundant fluff.
>>539568519Where's Flick to build a bridge over that hole?
>>539568193Beethoven would not concern himself with the works of a man like Weird Al Yankovic.
hornet molests sherma whenever you turn the game off
>>539568710Have you considered buying shard bundles
>>539568841>the meat degrades way too fast as soon as you leave greymoor.You are probably sprinting into walls, it counts as damage to the packages because fuck you, that's why.
>>539568841Do blasted steps to gate to kitchen. It's the easiest way and most simple
>nobody likes hunter crest apparentlyThe diagonal downward attack is good. Re-position and attack at the same time. Great gap closer after jumping over a moving enemy. An most importantly, it's fun and rewarding to use, even if other crests are more optimal.>>539566829>>539566256The point of tools having limited ammo is to deliberately discourage you from using them as part of the "base" move set. They are an optional panic button for players who are struggling and need some free extra damage to get through a fight. Naturally having that much damage at your disposal all the time would be too much, so they require a resource which you accumulate naturally by playing the game. Yet some people become dependent on them and upset they cant breeze through encounters by throwing them out all the time.
>>539568970Have you considered that having yet one more piece of shit retard consumable to grind for, on top of everything else, is not fun design, you fucking simp faggot? DUDE JUST LIKE LE TAKE A BREAK. Eat my cock Team Cherry.
>>539568841Both ways are viable but I did blasted steps. Kill pilgrim enemies on the route without resting. Personally I think double jump makes it free. And yes you can use elevators.
Beat Shakra's duel first try thank you cogflies and crystal clones but there's no reward? Do you get anything for beating her multiple times or is it just a journal entry?
>>539568854Yes, exactly. Tools should not be your primary means of dealing damage. That is clearly the intent of the design. I’ve squeaked through multiple boss fights with one hp left where I probably should have died two or three more times simply by deploying a boomerang or two right at the end. I enjoyed the interaction because it prevented me from having to fight the boss again and I didn’t waste a billion shards doing it. Simple stuff.
>>539569076Every pogo is a simultaneous reposition and attack. The diagonal pogo is just way more restrictive in terms of which enemies you're allowed to hit when with it, as well as being harder to do, which makes it worse.
>>539569102>grinding for rosaries in act 2 or 3lol git gud>>539569076Evolved Hunter has the highest dps potential for damageless play but shitters arent ready for that discussion.
>>539568710the game spams you with shards via consumables and the shard pendant and the fact that EVERY enemy drops them, you are simply shit and blaming everything but yourself>>539568854by your own argument, any resource ever is redundant because you can lose it but win anyway. what about hp? bosses are possible hitless so clearly its redundant
>the little singing guys in the area where you encounter your first vault keeperThey're honestly pretty cute. Would molest.
Once Garmond and Zaza are resting at First Shrine, have you missed the opportunity to duel them? I can't find much on how that questline works.
>>539563429I bumped my head into her uselessly until she went downher page anyway isn't needed for completion
>>539569020Even long falls count as damage, this is the first time the game made me go "oh that's bullshit".>>539569042>>539569124Will do, though I don't have the double jump yet so I'll do some other stuff till then. The game opened up like crazy in act 2 and I'm a little overwhelmed! I need whatever let's me jump off those rings too..
>people crying about shard consumption havent realized they can just reload to an earlier save from the main menuIt really is a skull issue
>>539569268"Tools should not be your primary means of dealing damage" more like they're not even a regularly consistent means of doing damage, more like a once-in-a-comparative-blue-moon augmentation of your intended arsenal. Which means press releases like this >>539560828 >>539564010 are a bunch of fucking rat liar coping. Hornet spends almost all of her time being a fucking cripple in comparison to the first game unless you wanna put on your Farmer John overalls and embrace the I Love Not Playing The Game lifestyle. >>539569076See above.
>>539569269>Every pogo is a simultaneous reposition and attack.How is vertical pogo a reposition? It literally puts you back where you were.
>>539569456>bro the game design around shards/tools isnt bad if you just save scumwild
>people tongue bathing team cherry anus 24/7 for freeIt really is a skull issue
>>539569301Shutters aren’t ready for the ascended take that with the right RNG calculations you could crit infinity times in a row, thus making wanderer the most powerful crest in the game by an enormous margin
>>539569441>Don't have double jumpIf you have clawline, head straight for mt fay and finish that. You might not *need* it for game completion standards but you do in fact need the traversal upgrade.
>>539569394>Shards which are permanently lost on death are the same as HP which refreshes to full on each reset>"If you didn't heat the boss hitless it doesn't count"Genuine question, are you fucking stupid?
>>539569561I'm giving advice for shitter players. Dont cry about muh shards lmao.
>>539569561This but using cheat engine. Team Cherry has done it agayne.
>>539568710>>539569102I just copy-paste savefiles. Copy before the boss, paste after I run out. I refuse to engage in their Shard-Death system.I do it for all games where they save after death, and you eventually run out of food and potions while re-attempting the boss.
>>539569508oh, so you just have a huge fucking ego about the way you want to play the game vs the way other ppl play, enjoy your last (You) you attention starved faggot
>>539569525You have not parried Karmelita or Pure Vessel with pogos if you seriously think that. Do Path of Pain and get back to me.
>>539569829You haven't answered my question.
>>539569817>Ohh uhhhhhh uummmmmmmmmm I just got proven wrong so I'm gonna crying wojak post about not being able to respondSit down and shut the fuck up, you cuck bootlicking faggot.
>>539570013All this time crying about how unfair the tool system is could be spent getting good at Silksong.
>>539569939Yes I have. Parrying, not taking damage, staying above the enemy to hit again, and being relatively safe are all repositioning versus falling into the hitbox and taking 2 damage. You not having the experience to know how truly shit Hornet's got it is not my problem.
>ITT: retarded niggers who don’t know how to play video games complain about game balanceMaybe they should just remove offensive tools entirely. At least it would shut these faggots up and make them quit and go play easier games. LOL
>>539570192*Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp*
>>539570104That's what I thought, faggot. You've got nothing but crying and simpering after you fucked yourself into a corner. That's what it feels like when you glaze an obviously dogshit mechanic even though everyone knows it fucking sucks. Never do this again.
I just opened the simple lock door next to mech core in the citadel and all that's in there is a rosary theader and a bunch of perma corpses. Did I miss something in act 2 that I missed out on in act 3?
>>539570341You're seething at multiple people when you could spend that time getting good at Silksong. The mind of a shitter is truly an enigma.
>>539569508If you are going to use tools then put some thought into it. Learn the patterns of a boss/enemy, determine which tools to use, when to use them, and don't do so unless you have the masks+silk to follow up and finish off afterwards. You are complaining because you used up all your shards, for tools which most will Most players would agree that the tools are overpowered, yet you complain because YOU used up all your shards and STILL failed to beat the boss. Farming for more shards is not mandatory, you can just use the needle until you win, and probably have more fun that way too.
>>539569076I like Hunter, it is my main Crest. Reaper is unusable for platforming, it is too slow. The only place where Reaper helps is Sands of Karak, in all other cases it's just a hindrance. Wanderer can't even damage breakable floors on the first try, you just hit air. I often use Reaper and Wanderer for bosses, tho. Reaper for pogoing and singular strikes, Wanderer for raking up damage and soul for healing (basically "if I die slower than boss I win" tactic).
>>539570385Explore a bit more in there, there is something else
>>539570385The door in High Halls? There should be a cannon tool there that uses beads.
>>539570159You are repositioning with jumping before doing pogo, vertical pogo doesn't move you much on its own outside of shit like climbing spike columns which you can do with any crest.
>>539570557>soul*silk
>>539570432I’ve come to the determination that this isn’t an actual conversation. It’s just bait. He’ll reply with a denial of this, but it’s just the same conversation every time (and it is, ultimately, a matter of opinion that he construes as a debate about facts). Simply do not interact.
>>539570341>gets laughed at for retarded take>needs to declare himself the victor in an argument you've got less than 5 years until you rope, at least try not to make it messy for your family
>>539570782same thing
>>539570839Yeah dude people are just laughing at your ass. Stop whining about the game being unfair and get your ass back to /v/ with the rest of the scrubs if you dont have the brainpower to engage with the mechanics.
>>539571027No, I was talking about him. The dude complaining. It’s been the same thing for days now. He doesn’t listen to advice, just complains and belittles people. Guaranteed to be trolling.
>>539571187Oh sorry, I misunderstood - you are totally right, my bad
>>539570470Every single time I ended up using tools successfully it was to evaporate the second half of the last phase of a boss because I was getting impatient, or to get rid of the last wave of an arena fight because I was impatient and Hornet's crowd control without them is fucking ass. Id say that's an extremely underwhelming mechanic in comparison to the spells from the first game which could be used way more extensively, and it's even more underwhelming than in Sekiro because the cost is comparatively much higher. That's fucking stupid and lame, both in comparison to HK and in absolute terms given how big a presence the tools have in the game. They're like 50% of your completion percentage. It's a big fat downgrade in every way to Hollow Knight. All these keys jangled in your face as a taunt because you're not actually meant to use them. Gay. You're fucking coping your head off to pretend this is somehow generous to the player. What it really is is Team Cherry shoving both middle fingers up your ass because they think you making you beat bosses with a vibrator tickling your prostate gives you more gamer cred than beating bosses while having fun doing it.
Some red faced VARMIT has taken my beloved Bellbeast away from meAhm gettin' mah rosary cannon
>>539570710If you're already above the enemy the best thing you can do is stay being above them, and the diagonal pogo is the most restrictive at keeping you there. Both because you can't actually be directly above the enemy because it doesn't trigger the damage in an arc beneath you, and because the ricochet is way stronger so you aren't as free to keep hovering directly above them, and because of how it's at specifically a 45 degree angle that enemies know about and have dashes that are programmed specifically to outspace it. There's so many dashing/keepaway enemies that are huge pains in the ass to deal with with Hunter that crumple with Wanderer or Reaper because their AIs just can't handle the pogo having an arc-shaped hitbox.
>>539570432what were they THINKING when they made Lace super cute? was this all part of their master plan?
>>539568710>I ran out of tools fighting Unraveled.Same. All the tacks aren't enough for him.
>>539571574hornet sounds like THIS?!
>>539570432I'm seething at you and everyone else who's mindbroken themselves into thinking having fewer resources at all times is somehow a buff because not being able to do things is fun. You're a cucked little bitchbaby.
>>539571814I ran out of tacks and finished him with conchcutters. I also used sting shards but he kept breaking those so I would replace those with something else. I think I got a charged drill or two off, too.
>>539571612>If you're already above the enemy the best thing you can do is stay being above them,Not directly above them when a huge number of them can very quickly jump into the air.And the rest of your post reeks of a massive skill issue.
*stamps my cute bare feet*STOPENJOYINGSILKSONG!!!!!!
I didn't mind having to grind bullets/blood vials in bloodborne, since ultimately I was still gaining souls to level up my character, but grinding rosaries and shards in act 3 is some straight ass.
>>539572187*stomps on your ugly bare feet with my hornet feet* AHM SICK AH EWE AN YER CITY SLICKIN WAYS, PALE SKIN
>>539572205Grinding for what, you have nothing left to buy so you can dump rosaries into shard bundles and none of the heart bosses use shards anyways.
>>539572364Grinding rosaries (and by extension, shards) to buy shard bundles to make tools, asshole.
>>539572321can a city silk golem and a country spider really fall in love…?
>bare feet>skiny'all know theses are fucking bugs with exoskeletons, right?
>>539572063Yeah oh shit the enemies can jump, you can uhh do literally anything in terms of pressing A, S, double jump, or more pogoing to deal with that. This is a solved problem from back in Hollow Knight. Very ironic you're the one accusing me of skill issues when saying that. Hunter's pogo is so shitty in comparison to Wanderer's that I'd actually say the worst possible thing to do when playing Silksong is play Hollow Knight directly before it, since it makes Hornet feel so gimped it makes you wanna quit.
>>539572485>gay>between two f*malesAbsolutely notNow if they were two boys (cute) then absolutely.
>was killing enemies at the top right of the citadel for 49 rosaries a pop>now they only give 43why can this be? I was never using that charm that boosts rosarie gains because you lose rosaries on hit and I like to farm sloppy style. thief hook is also unequipped
>>539572010>I think I got a charged drill or two off, too.How? Isn't he protected at the top? Did you graze his side with it?
So hornet is racist and homophobic? (except yuri)
Stupid blank slate Knight. He should be cute like Hornet and Lace.
>>539572456How and why did you ever get to that point, 75% of the new content doesnt use up your shards
>>539572487Lace isn’t a bug, but yeah whatever she has going on probably couldn’t be called skin
>>539572661I just charged while I was on the wall letting tacks do their thing and jumped down to hit him when I saw a chance.
>>539572752That's like saying a banana peel isn't a skin
>>539572681By virtue of being male he is cute.
>>539572618FUCK I mean top left
I just unlocked this deep docks area after using the simple key, I explored everything but I am stuck at this 2 lever situation. They are 2 levers behind iron bars horizontally placed in this red marked area which I cannot access. Any ideas? I am still in Act 1, got wall jump, dash and chute
>>539572846So the drill goes through the helmet?Also, how do you dodge his people-spit? He does it so fast that and I can't tell where it's going until after he spits.
>>539572874Knight is genderless
>>539572928There's a boss near there and I can't remember how you access it but I assume it's not until act 2.
>>539572928>he used the key in deep docks instead of getting wanderers crest like a FOOLyou shouldn't have done that
>>539571314>evaporate the second half of the last phase of a boss>get rid of the last wave of an arena fightSo you do understand how to use them.>extremely underwhelming mechanic in comparison to the spells from the first game>downgrade in every way to Hollow KnightRight again, perhaps the thread was too harsh on you. It is disappointment that SS has more limiting options, when the freedom to change how you play with charms was one of the best parts in HK. Would much rather have had a greater variety of blue/yellow items and an extra slot for each, no reason to change a system that was so good. Feel like TC had a specific play-style in mind and ll the options you get lead to the same thing.
>>539572187They ask me how I do it, I just bite off more than I can chew, then I chew it.
>>539573173I got that crest through my Wall Jump ability. You don't need to go through wormways.
>>539573173You can just get another act 1 key in sinner's road
>>539573030I didn't attack the head so I don't know. As for the spit, I was always on the wall when he did it so it was easier to dodge but I'd still get hit by one sometimes.Tacks should last until he's nearly dead so you should be on the wall most of the fight dodging attack and having a charged drill ready for the adds.
>>539573074Hornet and her state appointed mesugaki who follows her around because she needs silk to live.
>>539573326But that's for saving nameless prince D:
>HK has more build variety than SilksongWTF am I even reading lmao.
>>539572928Those are not two openable doors, it's a unfoldable tunnel. You can't access it from this side. (If you see a ring on a chain, it's an Act 2 thing.)
>>539573453The most toxic of yuri....>>539573473True, wormways and prince are the best key spots.
>>539573497In a way, it does. Badges aren't limited by slot type, just slot cost. And you can overcharge if you're clever at the expense of taking double damage.
>>539573563Ah okay so you need that ability from Act 2, thanks.
>>539573582Lace's male bulge..
>>539573179Yes I know how to use them, that's why I hate the system so much, because of how conservatively it demands you use them in comparison to how neat the tools themselves are. Maybe if enemies had seriously buffed shard drops, and/or you could recharge your tools from shards dropped on the fly instead of waiting for the bench, it would be less tedious. It would give the tools more sustain for prolonged wave fights like High Halls and Coral Tower, which I think are unironically harder than Trial of the Fool specifically because of how you're forced to do them 90% nail-only. This wouldn't even touch the existing balance for one-on-one bosses since obviously the boss wouldn't drop shards until it's dead. But that's not how the game works.
>>539573913I think they could just weave a silk or void cock, I'm sure fetishists are having a field day.
>>539574214>and/or you could recharge your toolsArchitect
>>539574261I wish I was an artist so I could perfectly visualize every single fetish I have in relation to this game and these characters. Most notably Sinner's road/Bilewater water effect and the gross jailers from the slab
Hollow Knight is legitimately one of the best games I have ever played. Been about 5 years since I first played it and it's even better than I remember it being.
>Shaman is the most fun crest in the game>you get it at the end of the gameDamn...
>>539574397Compromises silk arts which are genuinely very good.
Does runerage hit more than once on a single enemy? I'm thinking it might be the most effective spell against bell eater
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhttps://files.catbox.moe/4n7tsd.mkvThis arena got me to use the RB/R1 button. Was trying to avoid it, but I caved here.
>>539573582I feel like they would have more of a sisterly relationship. After all, isn’t the whole reason that Hornet even cares about Lace at all because Hornet sees herself and her siblings in Lace?
>>539574559I had more fun with Psychonauts 2 but Silksong is pretty great too.
>>539575010Part of being a yurifag is to be delusional.
Why do we have yuritroon here
>>539574559Yeah, it's pretty good.Probably the third best in the genre for me.
Mark my words you red faced varmit, I will destroy you no matter how many times you crack my shellI WILL TAKE MY BELL BEAST BACK Y'HEAR!!
>>539575318>being that requires silk to live>being that produces silkIts like the easiest ship in the world to understand lmao
THE BELL BEAST IN WITH THE FUCKING KIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>>539575903Yeah that part ruled
LITTLE BELLBEASTS FUCK YEAAAAHHoly fuck is that a fast travel like the dream needle could do? This is the best part of the game hands down.
Wispfire Lantern can also cause seared food to drop.
>>539575903Same type of kino as Hornet snapping fat fly's neck. That's what we call bonding.
>>539568408If only they were marked on the map.
>>539568841>Greymoor > sinners Road > ExhaustThat is the fastest route. Stop taking damage and it will be okay.
Can I do act 2 normally and then the cursed or are the fights one-time-only? And if I have the requirements for act 3, will it auto progress and lock me out of act 2?
>>539568408>he can't use the map to figure out a path>he didn't try talking to the shamans for guidanceAny video game design is garbage game design when you have no patience and also suck at video games.
>>539576971You can only be cursed once per playthrough before being cured. You can get the cursed ending any time you're cursed
>if you play the needolin in front of the mirror in the Exhaust Organ you get a flashback of Lace talking to Phantomthat's pretty cool
>>539577059I haven't been cursed yet, I'm just trying to figure out how beating act 2 works. Is it like most games where you clear the game and then reset to right before the final boss, allowing you to refight? So I can do normal ending, then cursed, then progress to act 3 when I feel like it.
>>539577279needed 100 more of those, since that was one of the first spots I found
>>539572562sherma x little ghost......
>>539577331You have to do all the wishboard quests, find enough fleas to send the caravan to 'fleatopia' and then start a new wish which puts you on the path to act 3Beating the final boss counts as beating the game but you can go back to before beating it via save file
>>539523380Yes, she didThe infection ball thingies
>>539568408This is a joke post right
>>539577524Thanks!
>>539577331You have to make a deliberate choice when finishing Grand Mother Silk to progress to Act 3, at which point, if you go through with it, you are locked in to Act 3.
>>539557701I just saw, Hornet even mentions witnessing something similarNo wonder Lifeblood is so loathed, strange that it behaves like thisHK3 where lifeblood is le bad?
>>539577567That was just corrupted lifeblood or tang'd bugs.
>>539575821I could see them going on adventures together. Lace might cause problems and be rude to people and Hornet would have to constantly reign her in. Could be cool.
>>539577791No, the infection was almost literally infecting the air itself with how potent and dense it became after weakening the seals. Basically a form of life.
>>539576971Do act 2 normally and get the endingGet cursed and get the endingTake the act 3 quest and go on with it.
>>539577709She's comparing it to the Radiance and with it, inferring the existence of a Lifeblood God.Which may be the thing lurking in the background of the Abyss Lifeblood and Godhome Lifeblood rooms.
>>539577494Sherma is for /ss/ my friend
I'm a bit stumped on how to access a certain area. In the Great entrance to Pharloom in the blasted steps, there's an opening on my map and some platforms I can't reach. Am I to assume there's a skill that will let me reach those further down the line or am I missing a breakable wall?
>>539578569You don't understand how depraved Hornet is, she forces them to do things to each other and then sells the recordings on Hallownet
>>539578531so who wins, the abyss OR lifeblood?
>>539578968The Abyss probably
>>539578584You are looking in the wrong spot of blasted steps. Check a lower part. Maybe by the pinstress's house.
>>539577279>Why us, sister?Was Phantom also a silk being?
>the lifeblood blossoms are respawning far faster than I can cut them down>they've even infested the researcherStarting to get an idea of why it's so abhorred now.
>>539579236she was the prototype to Lace
>>539579236Yep, check the journal entry
>>539573497Mental retardation. I called this a couple weeks before release as someone who just played HK and thought it was boring dogshit. Glad TC upped their game with Silksong
>>539578968>>539579007The Knight/Ghost can take any amount of Lifeblood and not care, so I'd say Abyss is stronger
>>539579335Why she is so sex?
>>539579628I thought Phantom inspired from Phantom of the Opera? In that play Phantom is played by male actor.
>>539579628a body type between stickbug and turkey baster
>>539579793Femboy Phantom...
>>539579873Would
>>539578531>>539578968>>539579007>>539579457Maybe that's why PK chose void to contaim the Radiance, because it kind-of-worked against Lifeblood
>>539579873Did
>>539578569Based
>>539578569All I'm hearing is he would make the cutest noises while I fuck his bug asshole>captcha is spoojExactly what I'm thinking, captcha machine
is sherma autistic or is he simply different
>>539580703He's a holy pilgrim who's faith is so unshakeable he resisted the haunting which ensnares the minds of lesser bugs who have doubts and fears.
White is right
I got myself sent to the slab by that one bug with the cage, and that was probably one of my favorite sequences so far. Though when Hornet snapped that one guy's neck, I felt it was kind of stupid, since if she can one hit KO a guy like that, why am I bothering fencing guys to death with a needle.
>>539581341she can only do it from ambush
I was not prepared for EVERYTHING to start dealing 2 masks in act 3Holy fuck this is awful.
>>539581341She was filled with seething rage
Wow, First Sinner was a great fight. Easily the best balance of fun and difficulty and fast pace of any boss I've fought so far. Was a little frustrated that it didn't send you back to a bench so my tools weren't getting refreshed and I had exploration options for my slots but I'm glad in the end because it turned it into a pure sword fight with no gimmicks.
>>539581341She was nakedThat gives her +40 to her power level>>539581776Wait till you reach the Cradle. Easier than Radiance but a lot more fun
>>539568841Don't forget to wear the speed anklets and/or use the flea juice. Beast's bind also increases speed for a sec. Might want to have weavelight too for the anklets.
>1% left to completion>its seth's highscoresi want to die
there should be a separate thread just for silksong minigames since it's clearly on a whole other level to the rest of the challenges in the game
>70 hours in>can't beat Bilewater's bossBros, I'm at my limit. Fucking swamp filters me so hard it's unreal. Runback sucks, enemies suck, the boss sucks
>>539572513Hornets base pogo is super fucking sick nasty tho
>>539582726Get the secret bench
>>539582726>runback suckshow do you figure>enemies suckyoure supposed to pogo them 3 times as they come up>boss sucksyou're supposed to smack him in the anus and pogo him 3x as he comes up
>>539582726just like beat the boss lol
>>539582403That doesnt count for completion %
>>539582726you're supposed to cheese it by camping in the bottom right corner
>>539582827I did. On my own, in autistic rage smacking around because the pit offered nothing but scraps and worms>>539582847I'm trying but I get more damage from touching it than its attacks>>539582906Thanks, fagget. Here's a (you) for you
>>539582726Groal or whatever? >>539342041 or >>539117451 if you want to be safe.
>fakeout endingI wish I didn't know there is act 3 because that was pure kino.>can't get past the very first void enemies roomIt is so over.
>>539584785You'll get there. I struggled too.
>>539581341Imagine having your neck snapped by her thights.
>>539583957>>539583335Thanks. I will keep it as my last resort option although I don't have mechbees
>>539584954Poisonous boomerang is also very good against Graol.
>>539584785you'll feel much better once you get to a bench
>have to suffer dogshit, E33 tier minigames for the last nail upgradeok i will just stop playing then
the "you still beat the game" build
>>539553765I only have 232, I do know that Garmond and Shakra have entries, but what about the other 3?
>>539585573jak and daxter prepared me for this type of shit. these minigames are ezpz.
>>539585626Please I don't want to remember Jak2 atrocious difficulty.
>>539585579Shard pendant is virtually uselessBell is turbo uselessDruid eyes are shit in act 3
>>539585579Replace the bell by the injection charm, it's way better, and the compass by the speed upgrade.Also you are missing the boomerang upgrade.
Could someone please help me figure out how to save this damn flea. He's my last guy
>>539586091He's in an area you haven't discovered yet, hidden between the Underworks and Greymoor. The entrance is in Greymoor at the most top-left corner of the area, you can see it in the corner of your image there.
>Nuu is the only snail who isnt a void cultistI dont trust them>>539585573The games are fun though.
>>539586231Honestly one of the most bullshit are entrance in this game.
>>539586231Well that's damn annoying
>>539586280I don't think Nuu is a snail, she's too different. Could be a slug or even some kind of nautilus.
>>539586280>The games are fun though.Yeah that part when fleas fall down from offscreen or your hits don't register against them is super fucking fun, never had as much fun since FF10
>>539585579it's funny that architect is probably the second best needle crestactually it's not funnythat and wanderer are so far beyond in damage output to the other crests it makes no sensewanderer has higher nail speed, a better pogo than hunter, crits that combo with the dice and all that for a marginally lower range that can be fixed with one single blue charm and one less tool slotarchitect has the best charge and dash moves in exchange for no silk skills that are mostly shit and not worth using over healing or the architect gimmick anywayif you just want a good setup and don't care about having fun or whatever they make everything else obsolete
>>539586607>he didnt make the jecht shotyou can't do it, kid!
>tfw you create a perfect, beautiful daughter but she hates you and herself
>>539586914what about Phantom? Doesn't she deserve love?
>>539587017ummmm no she's ugly and stupid and i hate her
>>539587017Get back on that organ and keep expelling all the SHIT we better bugs produce down into the stilkin swamps you FAILURE
>>539586914even if she genuinely loved Lace and the Weavers, she's still a crazy bitch
>>539586624And Knight had a superpowered Wanderer with Shaman bolted on tophaha
>>539587157i can fix her
is this that "gauntlet" everyone was talking about? because I don't think a boss fight could be worse than this. I don't know if anyone can fight two of those big insects with a hammer simultaneously that's just impossible
>>539587408I just clung to the wall and threw a dozen buzzsaws at thembut if this is too hard it's possible to enlist NPC help
>>539587408bro, your shakra?
>>539587408It gets worse. Still a brutal gauntlet. But mostly because it features a new enemy that you have to learn mid fight.
>>539587408>He didn't buddy up with Shakra enough for her to show up and be the dpsBro.. you're meant to be friendsong, not lonersong
>>539587408>oh noooo two bugs at once
what do the hunter upgrades even do, I didn't see anything special happening even after the second oneI read it buffs your damage after hitting without being hit but no one mentions by how much or how many hits it is
>>539587408Also forgot to add : it's way easier if you keep both heavies on the same side of the arena. You DO NOT WANT them surrounding you.
>>539587718Hornet "Lone Wolf Spider" Silksong
>>539587718I'm okay with the capitalist commentary but socialites having it better is putting me over the edge
>enter the wisp thicket for the first time>it's act three so I'm bracing for heavy damage>some dickhead casts fireball at me that hits me so hard it knocks me back a screenI see.
>>539587408I just did this in a speedrun last night and it was surprisingly fun. You just gotta get out from between them.
>>539587472That would be better I have to look into that>>539587538>>539587635>>539587742>>539587794I saved my tools for the last stretch and it helped me a lot. I got one of them down but died to the other. I guess it's doable lol
>>539588081it's yet another area where Magma Bell is helpful
>>539588327>yet anotherBy which you mean one of two, three if you're being generous and incompetent?
>>539588094Yeah thanks I'm close
>>539583196doesnt he give an item for the house?
>>539587824there is no capitalist commentary, the mere existence of an industrial level full of mistreated workers does not itself a commentary on capitalism make. you can have a factory with poor conditions outside of a capitalist system. capitalism doesn't hold the sole and exclusive rights to the concept of industry
>>539588846Mementos don't count for the in-game % tracker.
>>539587408I did that first try and I think I had shit tools on at the time so Sting Shard was my primary tool.
>>539587742>oh noooo two bugs at oncethis but hornet and lace raping me to death
>>539588962Especially when what we see in Silksong is closer to Stakhanovism.
>>539588962Silksong is clearly criticizing a theocratic autocracy
>need 900 rosaries for the final nail upgrade>virtually no miniboss or boss drops rosaries so i have to resort to grinding>grinding spot has been altered because of act 3 changes and became way worseThis is so assThe entire economy in the game is so atrociously shit
>>539589252don't hate the game, hate the players who say they didn't have a problem with it
>>539589351I'm glad I didnt have a problem with it, sucks to suck.
Father of flame was both the easiest and second most obnoxious fight. Fucking wisps SUCK.
>>539589351>the chad "literally had no rosary problems the entire game">vs the virgin "oh my god I have to grind AGAIN"gotta say it feels good to not be bad
>>539589252bUt tHaTs wHaT tHe dEvElOpErs iNtEnDeDthey doubled down recently in an interview about the shit economy and difficulty progression that for some reason is hardest at the start of the game since you have no abilities or tools but bosses are just as tuned
>>539587408>I don't know if anyone can fight two of those big insects with a hammer simultaneously that's just impossibleIt's possible, and without red tools: >>539574894That said, I agree the two big ones at the end is bs. First time fighting them, and you have to start all over if you lose.
>>539589486If you work it right, you can dodge them while pogoing. The tricky part is that the timing the wisps attack you is irregular.
If you have tons of rosaries, isn't that because you keep dying when exploring areas and killing tons of enemies because you suck?
>>539589713nta but I just like killing shit, especially since tracking your kills in the journal is a pain in the ass so I don't know what I've done and what I haven't
>>539588456theres like 5 bosses that deal fire damage
>>539588962Agreed, the "capitalism lol" comments are annoying. Lower classes were oppressed for centuries before any capitalist philosophies existed. Any form of government and economy can be rigged to serve powerful and influential social elites at the expense of the common people.
>>539589872It was mostly a joke, but I'm saying that because I barely died while exploring, most of my deaths are against bosses, and I was constantly low on rosaries through the whole game except at the end when doing all the optional bosses etc.I was also low on shards but that's mostly because there is a stupid cap on shards for some reason...
>>539589976and I forgot magma bell for all of them for way too long
>>539590095Yeah I fought the forgebrothers with no magma bell and I felt very silly. Still a fun fight though.
>>539589976I can only think of the two brothers and father of flame guy. And I didn't have the magma bell for those either. Turns out fire is just a state of mind
I thought the bell didn't really protect against physical attacks, only fire attacks like TLJ's and Father of Flame's wisps?
>>539589713No, I kill tons of enemies while exploring, sitting at benches, and exploring some more. Then when I did die, I didn't go online to complain about how the game is ass, I got better and I beat the game.Only once could I not afford a bellbug and the nearest bench at the same time that I found them (which was a non-problem because it was the Ducts), and my ability to progress wasn't hindered by not being able to buy out every merchant the moment I met them.I admit it'll suck in the future doing new saves when I know what I want and where to get it, but that's how it always is in games like this.
>>539590415Did you play after the first patch or something? Nearly everyone had rosary bead issues in act 1 and early act 2 because of constant bench and bell beast unlocks.
>>539588991I never saw the big ones before I had to learn their movements. The waves are okay>>539589554Yeah I overreacted it's defiantly possible. I just panicked because I thought the first big one was all there is, then there was fucking 2.It's over anyway. Love my Sting Shards
>>539590203>Last Chorus>Savage Beasfly 2 adds>Father of the Flame>Blowjob Brothers>Last JudgeAlso technically Lace 1 since she can knock you into the lava.
How much HP this flower whore has? 2 thousand million? I literally grow weary during the bossfight and eventually lose focus and die.
How do I get out?
>>539590589I agree with anon there. I finished exploring 90% of the game before the patch and could always unlock benches and bell stations etc.And I never had to go out of my way to farm rosaries early game to do that. Of course I came at the cost of not being able to buy most things at vendors, but I still had just enough to buy the cool stuff like keys.
>>539590589No, I played from day 1. I was already in act 3 by the time the patch arrived.I bought the rosary magnet as soon as I could and kept it equipped. Once I had that, I was good. Maybe a couple times I had to come back for a map, but Ducts was the only bell and bench I couldn't afford immediately.
>>539590916I can't believe I'm asking this but which flower whore?
>>539590916I just used bouncy projectiles like the conecutter and Shakra's rings.
>>539590907>last chorusI don't think that counts, that's more the landscape being a problem not the boss>Savage beastfly 2I guess?>last judgeTotally forgot about their phase two because they were so easy after mastering the runback.
>>539590907>Also technically Lace 1 since she can knock you into the lava.Thanks for bringing back the memories of being parried and thrown into lava10/10 would let her dom me again
>>539591045I mean it has a fire attack which is what you asked about
>>539590995I'm guessing the literal flower whore. The one for the heart, who is squishy but hard to damage if you refuse to use your tools.
Is going into the diving bell a point of no return? Should I come back when I have absolutely nothing else to do?
>>539591368It's never a point of no return.
>>539591368Nah
>>539591368You can come back.
>>539591368I don't get questions like this.Do you not enjoy playing the game blind? Are you terrified of not knowing what's ahead? Just get in the damn bell, Hornet.
>>539590995Nyleth.>>539591010>>539591176I refuse to use red tools until they revamp the KBM controls from a fucking piano to singular keys. It's not my fault that this poor indie-studio with a 15 years worth of experience in game development is unable to acknowledge a large chunk of their playerbase.
Feels good to be rich. And I spent total 10 minutes grinding pilgrims back in arc 1.
>>539591368You also want to go there asap because the reward is important.>>539591529Anon is afraid of being locked out of content, how is that a problem? Being locked out of content fucking suck, I missed Shakra and Garmond fights because of playing blind.
>>539590990You must have missed most unlocks and Shakra maps then because almost no enemies in act 1 gave beads unless you went out of your way to farm.
>>539591602>guy struggling with the game refuses to use tools>even in a dream with no shard useThis website is filled with dumbfucks
Has anything from the 2019 trailer been cut? Like this one room here looks cool but I can't find it
>forgot i had 500+ Rosaries sitting on strings in the inventoryLol economy
>>539590967What is this place? Whiteward?
>>539591602I said it before and I'll say it again: Silksong feels like it's from 2008. Missable content, bad controller layouts, and inability to rebind/separate tools from silk.
Wow. I really don't like the gargant gloom. Fucking horrible creature.
>>539591756You're a dumbfuck AND the reason the industry is filled with dumbfucks that show you the "pwease kindly use a gamepad for this game, we are too busy sorting our diapers :3" prompts upon startup. Back in the days, your whole interface would change according to your input device, but I guess it's too hard of a task to tackle if (you)'re a onions-infused retard.
I clapped.
>>539592194So a time where games were good?
>>539590967Stuck under the elevator? Just exit to menu and load back in.
>>539591739>mapsOnce or twice I might have had to explore without one then come back, but I never had to farm to afford them>unlocksIf a merchant had one thing I wanted, I bought it and saved my remaining rosaries because I'd rather afford benches than buy out merchants when I meet them. Then I went back and bought the rest later when I wanted them.
>>539591765There is some cut content. The coral place was going to be an entire area but was cut and shrunk down to just the Coral Tower arenas. Steel Assassin Sharpe is also missing from the game.
>>539592319tbf, a lot of fights are actually easier when you're not worried about using and timing tools, just responding to attacks and bopping during openingsit's funny how some fights got easier when I ran out of shards or decided to conserve them
>>539592319I agree that the request that pops up is stupid, but the keyboard controls are actually perfectly fine. I feel like I have better control over Hornet than I would with a controller. I honestly don't know why they ask you not to use keyboard.
>>539592476Oh man I was wondering why I hadn't seen the big coral area yet. Pretty disappointing that there's any cut content despite the wait. What's their excuse this time?
>>539592319imagine not owning a gamepad just to stick it to the pesky indie devs
>>539592539I save tools solely for the moment adds spawn or when the gauntlet throws more enemies at you. Instantly killing one or two makes the fight more navigable (because I'm old and slow)
>>539592643I can't speak for TC but as far as the coral area goes, my assumption is it is where the Blasted Steps currently is, and I imagine they felt a beautiful colorful coral region didn't make sense for a brutal final climb to the Citadel, not to mention how prone Pharloom is to destroying everything around it.
>almost all act 3 charms are garbage except pin badge>they shoved a basic charge attack speed up to the ass end of the game after already triple nerfing them
>>539592357This is about respecting the player's time and offering basic bitch options, not the quality of the gameplay.I don't know the requirement for Garmond and Zaza duel, but I do know the window must be very small, and it's in a secret area, potentially requiring killing Second Sentinel but not progressing too far in the story which is unlikely to be the case for most players. Haven't really seen bullshit like that since 90s JRPGs.
>can beat those assholes upOh yes.
>>539592194In 2008 we had an entire array of high quality castlevania games that didn't do any of this shitOrder of Ecclesia is like a next gen title compared to silksong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3cwF4PZxGEThis is so fucking stupid lmao, I never even tried the heavy attack on shaman and I was wondering why everyone was saying it was insane. I'm retarded
>>539592902I remembered being able to whack the snail in the first game, and I had that slow realization "hey wait, you're snails... I can hit you."
>>539593047Order of Ecclesia was the last game done by a development team that basically refined and mastered that formula. It's unfair to compare other metroidvania to AoS, DoS, PoR and Ecclesia.
>>539592571>>539592680I do use tools when I play SS on deck, because it allows you to use to customize the fuck out of your controls, and as such it allows you to bind a combination of regular keys.>the keyboard controls are actually perfectly fineNo they aren't. Using 2 buttons for one command is tedious and retarded. They did that because they literally ran out of buttons on gamepads.>just to stick it to the pesky indie devsThey literally fixed a mouse issue in the first game, several days after the release, after I told them about it. Go back.
Man the nedolin really pisses off the void sea. Neato
>>539593384idk, I come from the Arma school of gamers so I am galvanized against being bothered by control schemes. it plays fine for me
>Act 3 is just a shitty boss battler with barely any new exciting stuff to find
>>539551445If you want to beat it before getting double jump, you should be able to wall jump over him. I'm pretty sure Hunter's pogo can hit him if you come at him from the side-ish.I just saved him for one of the last things I did in act 2.
just make a fucking thread already
>>539593964what's the rush, retard?
>>539551445One way I found to deal with his spit is to use Hunter Pogo, unlike his dash which prevents a pogo, you can bounce off his face if you're quick and stick to the wall behind himMight not work with the spear phase though
>>539593047Never heard of it, must be shit
>>539593964you make a thread
>>539594169silence zoomoid
is there an easy to way to get down after getting Architect Melody or I am going down the hard way?
>>539594261Just float.
>>539593964Can't, I'm not a spider :(
>fa yo maFuck you too, you zesty bitch.
NEW THREAD>>539594668>>539594668>>539594668
>>539591529It really pissed me off that the curse thing happens with little to no warning. If I knew it was going to happen, I would have saved it to right before the last boss, so I could play the game more freely. Now, I had to choose between playing with freedom or giving up the twisted child achievement."You could just play again"I don't think I enjoy this game that much.
tfw i completely missed the slab sequence everybody talks about
>>539592643Maybe they just didn't like it or thought it didn't make sense, but yeah it's strange
