Girls' night out edition.Store links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomPrevious Thread>>539494448
Sex with Lace (male (cute (femboy) ) )
Here we go again
What does showering do
What would you even do with a silk bar that big?
>>539594773I fucking love this image.
>>539595121lose it all by getting hit while healing
>>539595049makes you smell nice
>>539595049Ruins her bug stink that she's accumulated from swimming in all that maggot water>>539595121fire my silkshot fifty times at a single bug
>>539595121craft a beautiful creation..
>>539595121>AAAAAAAHHHHHHH I'M SPPPPOOOOOOOOOOLLLLIIINNNNGGGGGGGGHHH
>>539595121Enslave a kingdom.
>>539594773That's a fucking masterpiece right there.
>>539594773lol
But I don't wanna fight a boss yet and I don't wanna have to jump over all those big knights on the runback 30 times
>>539594773>it's Primal Aspid season, run!
>>539595736luckily the boss is very easy
>>539595736Shockingly one of the easiest ones in the game. Just be aware of what you're looking at and you'll be fine : )
>>539594773>No theatre club featuring TROBBIOOO and Grim
>>539588962>>539589993It's not just that the working class is oppressed in general, it's the specific combination of low wages in the Underworks (enemies drop fuck all for rosaries and the treadmill in Loom's room spitting out 1 rosary after like 5 minutes of running) and the hyper-commidification that must have happened to lead to benches and automated confessional booths being pay-per-use. And to a lesser extent the false hope that's apparently been instilled in everyone (explicitly in the case of Loom but only implicitly from the mobs) that hard work will be noticed and rewarded, which is not inherently a capitalist thing but is definitely a thing in our current system.It's definitely all secondary to the theocratic totalitarianism though, I agree there.
>>539596018these were made years agoThere is one where he does choir class though
>>539594773Why is Lace there?
>>539596376We've known about Lace for years, not that surprising.This clearly is from after Silksong's announcement but before it's launch seeing as it's entirely characters from the first game (and Lace)
>>539596376transfer student
>>539596376Because she was in the original trailer
>>539596376Sherma and Shakra are there too
>>539596319>that hard work will be noticed and rewarded, which is not inherently a capitalist thing but is definitely a thing in our current system.It is a thing in every systems anon.
Man, if Nyleth feels like spamming her spit attack in phase 2 there is nothing you can do, she just stalls you indefinitely.
>>539597134owned
>>539596984Yeah but people who feel that under capitalism will associate it with capitalism.
All the joy and wonder of escaping the Abyss with my new skill has been torn from me as I have chewed a hole big enough to cause discomfort to my hand in my controller from the sheer destructive rage this game has instilled in me. Fucking god I hate my retarded chud faggot life
>>539598258Were you the anon that asked if going into the abyss was a point of no return last thread?
>>539598653possibly
The early world of Loomland...
>>539599057>lifeblood spireDLC leak??
>>539598984How many times did you throw your controller lmao?Good news is that part was the hardest platforming section of the game. There are 2 others for optional rewards that are hard but they are very short.
>>539598258That part ruled, I'm not sure how I've seen it filter so many anons.
>>539599251I haven't thrown it once. I bite it because I'm a retard.
>>539597212>>539597134Ok but Nyleth wasn't particularly hard because her weakness is cogflies, but I do not like that fight. All she does is stall you out and wait for you to die by attention because of how clawhook costs silk which parasitizes your healing. It's like that annoying AbsRad phase with the platforms but way worse. Feel zero guilt for giving her the flies.
>>539594773Pretty kino, kind of impressive how well translated all the characters are too a different setting.
>>539599302I don't disagree that it's fucking awesome to escape a rising tide, I loved Ori and the blind forest 2 for that, (among other reasons) but holy fuck I must have lost my temper threshold getting older because the fury that wells inside me is immense and uncontainable
>>539599137I'd say Lifeblood or City of Steel are the big dlc possibilities to flesh out. But we shall see. Fair to say we can expect more memory bosses too.
>>539599321Based bitechad, I was like that too lel.
>>539599519>bitechadMy arm disagrees. I've got a permanent scar tissue on my wrist because I've been biting myself in order to not damage valuable properly like controllers or walls since I was six when I get unbearably angry I'm now thirty two and still doing it..
>>539599137>>539599513I think Lifeblood Tower got gradually retooled into the Wormways over the years.
>Great Mother Silk has a double judgment cut directly aped from Lost Crownshameless
>>539599810I hope it'll turn into something bigger, my dream would be a future where all the "bad things" that spread in act 3 gradually disappear so we get a clean map and that allows lore for an even more pervasive and grown lifeblood, we can still get a lifeblood tower in wormways
>>539599057Seems like a lot got changed, cut, moved around or what not. I'd be curious if the "Mansion on the Moor" became Craw Lake and just how different the Lifeblood Spire was from Wormways. Also although there's no way to tell, it's interesting that it seems those worshipping the Void and the Snails were two separate groups since the Void Cult's up in Greymoor while there's a Spiral Sanctuary near what I'm assuming became the Ruined Chapel.Not entirely surprised that the Coral Gorge is a thing, although it does make me wonder how late into development Blasted Steps and Sands of Karak were added. Also I wonder what the original intention was for the two towers, would they have both been like High Halls originally?The "Song Eater Lair" sounds pretty interesting, at the very least it doesn't sound as annoying as Bilewater.
>>539593923I have double jump. It's just he rams so fast that I sometimes get hit before the second jump lifts me. >>539594132>you can bounce off his face if you're quick and stick to the wall behind himI like this idea. Gonna see if I can use harpoon like this. Thanks.
>>539599302I felt like a scrub because I died during it, once. I guess it was even harder for other people.
cheese'd broodmother fuck that retardation
>>539600105I entirely blame the fact my diagonal inputs are often read as side inputs, probably completely my fault but still. Trying to pogo and doing a standard attack is enough to make me rage quit.
>>539599675I think I stopped behaving like that at around 35-36yo, a few years ago. I don't really know why, probably understanding that getting angry will only make me do more mistakes.Or maybe it's because I stopped playing League and entered zen state.
>>539600154cheesed how?
I beat the last judge, but all it gave me was an extra route, am i missing something?
>>539600030They shifted the environments around the citadel to reflect the exploitation of the land. There's an interview about it somewhere.
>>539600223I dodged all the bullshit she was throwing and I kept slashing at her with my needle, that did itno idea what the gimmick was supposed to be
>>539600223>Ari gibson itt trying to learn how people cheese boss fights so he can patch it in real timeI'm onto you
>>539595736Should be easy to jump over them. Pogo if you have to.
>>539600224Last Judge is the "normal" route the game guides you to. The Exhaust Organ route is supposed to be the secret alternate route most people don't find on their first playthrough.
>>539600415Anon that's just beating the boss normally
>>539600223>stick to the top of the right wall>throw tacks>throw cogflies>she is down in seconds
I was enjoying First Sinner. Thought "This boss isn't unpleasant to fight against, and not too hard. This is nice for once. A break from all those other ones." But of course... With this being HK, that was short lived. She didn't need a phase 2 imo. I really liked her like that.
>>539600849You should have known it was coming when she was using Widow's theme.That said its a kino boss the whole way through, her attacks are very fair.
>>539600849Enjoy this fight anon. It's probably the second best boss in the game. No adds, no gauntlet, just a duel against her at high speed.
>>539600931I figured there'd be one. I honestly just didn't want to believe it since I was enjoying her so much.Just to make sure, the way to beat her is to abuse harpoon, right? It's been working like a charm so far, but I thought I'd ask to see if I missed other ideas or something obvious.
>>539600543oh...
>>539600415are you telling me I cheesed the entire game by using my needle without tools for 99% of fights?no wonder this shit is easy
>>539601231The best way to beat such a fair and fun boss like that is pure nail, guy.
>>539601231I didnt use clawline and beat her with my needle. But clawline probably helps if you are good at it.
how do i unlock the path to the other fast travel
>>539601465
>Dude still has places to explore on his map and is now asking how he unlocks a place on the same mapIt's not even a hidden tunnel. You're just being lazy.
>>539601145Pleased to hear. She's def gonna be one of the favs.>>539601291>>539601441I'm typically a pure nail user (haven't beat any boss or arena using tools yet), but how do you guys hit her without clawline? She moves so fast. By the time I run up to her, she's teleported.
>>539601465have you tried following the clearly unexplored map of your map
why is choral chambers so big what the fuck
>>539601768no
Why is Lace's ass so big what the fuck
>>539600849First Sinner is probably the most memorable boss in the game for me. Last boss was too easy, probably to make it more reasonably doable while crippled for one of the endings, and the laster boss you've fought 2 times already. Everything else is plagued by gauntlets and adds that make the fight worse, or ones that piss you off from unexpected contact damage. Every time you get hit from First Sinner it's from an actual attack, no teleporting inside of you or awkwardly falling or flying into you which so many bosses in this game tend to do
Do any of the fleas need Silk Soar to reach or do I just need to poke around more?I have some icons on my map that seem inaccessible but maybe the way to them isn't where I'm poking around
>>539600408Makes sense, looking at that 2018 sketch, the Citadel doesn't seem to have much presence in the area, the insinuation of "Old Dock" makes me thing that perhaps Deep Docks wasn't going to be as industrial originally and the lack of Bilewater, Sinner's Road, Whiteward & Underworks definitely makes it feel like the Citadel is a lot more contained and The Slab is just an outlier at that time.Looking at the 2021 revision there's a lot more of what would be in the final game. It does make me wonder if perhaps Wisp Thicket is something of a leftover in that regard cause otherwise you have this basically unbroken line of Citadel presence going from The Cradle -> Cogworks Core -> Choral Halls -> Whiteward -> Underworks -> Bellhart/Greymoor -> Deep Docks.
>>539601842It's the castle of the villain, of course it's big
>>539602060All fleas are obtainable before act 3
>>539601735You kinda just have to predict/bait some of the attacks, the easiest are her two melee attacks but also when she tries to heal once you recognize when the AI is trying to set her up for that.
>>539602060all fleas can be acquired in Act 2>>539602071I think Wisp Thicket is a rework of the Void Cult idea, the theme was changed but the core remained
>>539601842Its Dracula's Castle, we Order of Ecclesia in act 2
>>539602197Whisp thicket's location is kind of off imo. It doesn't make much sense where it is, it honestly feels like an area that would have been better either tied to bilewater or to moss grotto.
>>539602197Yeah that'd make sense, it's a shame they didn't give them more time to flesh it out. I think it would've made more sense to move Wisp Thicket off to one of the sides (I'm inclined to say Far Fields but that might be encroaching too much on the Skarr) and develop out their lore a bit more to at least explain why they are that way. That'd also clear out a path between Underworks and Greymoor, where I think it would've been better to have expanded Exhaust Organ, there's clearly this link between Greymoor/Deep Docks and the Citadel where material (Silk & Ore) is getting sent up from those locations to the Citadel, so it'd be neat seeing something like a "Piano Level" there where giant pipes transfer the goods up to the Citadel while others transfer waste out to Bilewater and Putrified Ducts (also might be a way of developing a gameplay use for that rotating pathway you see in Citadel one time, you know the one between Songclave and Grand Bellway, where you can only travel from one end to the other and not make a 90 degree turn.
I am positive Nyleth was originally related to Verdania but I cant prove it
Wisp thicket feels more like an afterthought of a location instead of a full fledged subzone. It's small, it's not very challenging and the boss is really pathetic. It reminds me of that fire scarecrow boss in salt and sanctuary
>>539602016thats not her butt!!!!
>>539602835It is kind of strange how there isn't a firmer connection between Greymoor and the Citadel. I guess the devs wanted to emphasize the pilgrimage path trough the blasted steps more but imo, thematically & lorewise it would make more sense for there to be stronger connections & pathways between Greymoor & Bellheart and the Citadel given how deeply they are tied in terms of the lore presented to us in the game.
Thinking back on it, the only boss I was truly pissed about is the secret beastly with the fire spitter skelly looking fliers.Maybe it was just bad RNG but the projectiles kept fucking me over every single time
>>539603539Eh there's a bit of it, the Greymoor workers collect the silk dregs to send back up and Wingmoor was trained to kill workers who try to flee.
>>539603539Greymoor is just a passing through point for pilgrims as we see with the Halfway House
My fingers hurt
>>539602189>the easiest are her two melee attacksSo when she does the scurry (Runs across the floor blade swinging) you jump over her and run up behind her? I'm assuming you have to dash it if you don't clawline it? Hunter pogo probably works for that too, I guess?The one-slice-two-slice in mid air I can see being able to hit her normally. You're right that I'd just have to predict/bait it.Healing is def an easy one. Forgot about that.This is how I did it with clawline (before knowing she has a phase 2) if anyone wants to see: https://files.catbox.moe/p3771o.mp4
>>539603907I think they meant a literal physical connection that the workers sent the silk back to the Citadel through
>>539604153Considering the proximity, it was probably delivered through bellheart and into blasted steps before going up the same passage through some unknown 3D route that Hornet refuses to take that her captors were probably going to take themselves. Still have no idea how they imagined they'd get that big cage up all those weird scale platforms in the grand gate entrance.
>>539604024>healedyou didint beat the game didnt even come fucking close start over and take no hits
>that platforming section on top of the mapthey just couldn't fucking help themselves bringing back the worst segment of the first game
>>539601256duh, why do you think shell shards and silk is in the game??if you aren't farming for shell shards or using the needle EXCLUSIVELY to get silk for the spells, you're cheesing the game
>>539604024they should have some easter egg at some point with a DLC where the surface has fuckhuge giants that are really just humans walking around
>>539604572jokes aside, I'm just a nail puristthe tools I used the most are the flea brew and the one that puts fire (or poison) on the nail, I prefer buffs to extra weaponry
>>539604621I find it genuinely shocking they didn't pull a 'giant frog boss fight' or something. I know Ori did but come on, we're bugs. Surely we should get to fight a big fucking haunted frog.
>>539604621I dont like the idea that everything is tiny. It feels like the bugs are human sized.
>>539604753but they did
>>539604753>they didn't pull a 'giant frog boss fight' or somethingIs this bait?
>missing flea(s)>not one of the ones on the bought maps>as far as I can tell, it's not one in a secret area because I have all of those areas on my mapfuck my life
>>539604838No I mean a literal frog. Like a normal enemy, but bigger.
>>539604753Groal
>>539604880groal is kind of a frog
>>539604864try this https://mikkerlo.github.io/silksong-flea/
>>539604913>>539604929You're misunderstanding. I'm talking about an actual frog. But bigger. https://oriandtheblindforest.fandom.com/wiki/Kwolok
>>539604959basedit says I have them all so maybe I just forgot to go back to the caravan
>>539595736>jump overWait for him to do the jump attack and walk under.
>>539605194yep. I forgot to return to them
>>539605102I don't think we'll ever see any vertebrate creatures in HK, the game seems pretty strict to that sort of thing. Hell even the largest creatures we see are just bigger insects and wyrms. I think one of the only groups of animals that hasn't shown up in HK yet but could still at some point would be Cephalopods.
>>539604567Fuck you too FREIND
>>539605749Have things like crabs, shrimp, lobsters or scorpions should up yet? (I didn't beat HK1)
>That whole scene of Sherma in whiteward, including the songFuck man, someone that pure shouldn't exist in that hellhole.
I dont want to be a bug fucker..
>>539606079Crust King Khann is a Crab of some sort.
How do I get the map for Lost Verdania? Beat Cogwork Duo 2? I just want my hundo and don't want to get locked out of it. I need the cartographer cheevo.
>>539606193Lace is not a bug.
I have 50/51 tools while being at the end of Act 2. Is the final tool the pin badge from Act 3? I think all the others are upgrades of previous tools or the Steel Soul exclusive tool.
>>539606338go back to the real world and then go into Verdania from there
>>539605102I dont want this game to be Pikmin where there are other bigger earth creatures and humans, no thanks.
>>539603309are you SURE??
>>539606346She isnt a bug but her design seems somewhat inspired by lace bugs. Definitely not very Weaveresque.
>>539605749we do see spinal columns with ribs attached in the marrow and thereabouts, so vertebrates do (or did, at some point) exist in the world of HK. wonder what happened to them
>>539606532Lol I did the entire area including the hidden wall BS without the map. Praise me.
>>539606829I think HK bugs also have bones inside them, it's where the Skarr ants get all their bone armor and weapons from
Tips:If you've completed the Memorium you should now have all the mossberries, go turn those fuckers inAs far as I can tell, Snitch Pick does not give you extra shards and rosary beads, it just snatches from the existing pools the enemy has and you'll get the rest when the enemy dies.From what I understand, Snitch Pick adds an additional attack which may help with silk regen if you can get all 3 hits in, but it also reduces the damage of each hit so it is not a pure damage upgradeI believe Quick Sling just uses your tool twice in one use. It does not give you extra tool usages or save you shards.
>>539607101I don't think so. The SLAB map is scrawled onto the exoskeleton of a long dead bug, and when you take it, Hornet extracts that chunk of exoskeleton to reveal the hollow interior.
>>539607551but Widow's journal entry mentions the pins are jammed into her spine
Ok, Clover Dancers are the most kino bossfight in the entire game. It's not even close. 10/10.
>>539607732Huh. Maybe some bugs do and some bugs don't? But if they have spines, then that means that vertebrates ARE in the game. They're just very insect-like vertebrates. Seems kind of redundant to have an endo and exoskeleton though
fresh out of the oven
>>539607901I wish they had like one more attack but both dancers were kino
>>539608647Isn't this thing still bugged?
>>539608647>3 yellows for one less redWanderer is shit just for this
>>539595121Feed Lace
>>539608754Maybe? I'm just using it because it scales with Barbed Bracelet and gives an energy refund if you hit an enemy. does 40 damage for a single silk or 78 damage if you crit.
>>539608647>double damage for a 20% attack increaseBarbed Bracelet SUCKS
>>539609325It's essentially just for farming or doing no damage boss runs. Most tools suck and do not do what you think they do.
>>539608879the biggest issue is that I can't think of 4 yellows to even put there, there's so few good charms in generalthe absurd dps and silk generation more than make up for one less tool
>>539607369>If you've completed the Memorium you should now have all the mossberries, go turn those fuckers inIt may not actually be the case and it's not a big reward anyway but the dialogue when I turned in the first couple extra Mossberries made it seem like the sooner you turn them in the more the shaman will pay you for them.
>>539609532Theres a shitload of good blues, its just that theres like 2 good combat yellows.
>>539609006she is a hungry spool of silk
she is PEERING.
>>539609568You get an upgrade for one of the better blue tools if you turn in all of them. Completing the Memorium is simply the earliest point you can obtain the upgrade.
>>539610074I quit using the base version of that tool pretty much ASAP and never went back to it, is the upgraded version really that useful? I usually use mask, poison, and the faster heal.
>>539607551>The SLAB map is scrawled onto the exoskeleton of a long dead bugI thought that was just a fun reference to hit television series Prison Break.
>>539610279Upgraded one gives two bars of silk instead of one, but you still need to get hit twice to go from green/unusable silk to white/usable silk
>>539610279As far as survivability value for a blue tool, I'd put it above nearly all the others. I stopped using the mask once I had all but one mask upgrade as I felt it lost most of its value at that point, but it's certainly OP when you only have 5 masks.
>>539610524Nah I think I'll just try not to get hit and maintain my Hunter damage boost.
>>539610279The guy glazing it is crazy, just use something actually good like the injector or double trobbio mirror.
>>539609568>made it seem like the sooner you turn them in the more the shaman will pay you for them.Nah. I turned one in quick, and he said it was trash. I turned one in hours later, he said it was hella fresh.Maybe he's falling to the haunting, but I don't think your delivery time matters.
>>539611224Yeah those are the same things that made me think he would pay you more, because I turned in one I had just gotten and one I had been sitting on for hours back-to-back.
>>539611224>>539611368I'm pretty sure it's just a scripted amount. First one is "bad," second is "fresh and good," third one is whatever the fuck.
>>539611008Injector and fractured mask are the only other ones I'd put above it, yes. The extra silk will come in clutch multiple times and the mask will just protect you once which puts the eyes above the mask for me once you obtain most of the mask shards.>double trobbio mirrorThat's not exactly going to improve your survivability and it's from act 3 so I'm not sure why you mention it.
>>539611502It improves your dps and has really good synergy with witch crest.
>>539611502If my math is right, Druid's Eyes potentially becomes worth using at 9 masks.2 hits for 2 silk bars9 bars required to bind once9 - 1 = 8, the maximum masks that can be lost before dying without healing8 / 2 = 4, the maximum hits you can receive assuming all hits are 2 damage4 * 2 = 8, the maximum number of silk bars you can obtain without dying or healingIf you consider that you'll heal at least once in a fight and that silk is used for more than just healing, I would consider Druid's Eye pretty good in most cases.
Is there a blue item that lets you get more silk per hit? because that item + injector would be a strong as shit combo.
>>539613159yeah its pretty alright i guess. i run that, long claw, and upgraded mossberry
>>539613159>Is there a blue item that lets you get more silk per hit?From what I heard, weavelight doesn't increase the amount you get, but increases your minimum silk regen amount.
>>539594773is there one featuring the pale king?
>>539613445I tried weavelight because I thought that it would help with silk regen but all it does it boost the passive silk regen by like 20%. I can't wait to ditch the mask for something better.
>>539613682It's pretty good if you actively use the Clawline, either for traversal or combat.
>>539613845I second this. I find it essential for my clawline combat.
>>539613618yeah, he's the principal
How good is the Weighted Belt?
>>539614550It's better than nothing for a yellow item
Why is this place already dead?
There's crits in the game?
>>539615882Only on Wanderer
Dumb question but is the reason the sands of karak dead because of the slab? I just noticed trying to complete the map that there's actually an area with water and those spines all over. What didn't the citadel fuck up?
>>539615934the more I think about it the more I dislike crests, how can one be so much better than the others and obtainable so early if they wanted to make so many and make some of them so hidden
>>539616790It's not clear if the Citadel destroyed Crust King's Khann's kingdom, or if the water ran out on its own, but it's entirely possible considering what they did to Verdania.
>Shaman Crest increases the Needle Damage multiplier of Skills by .5 per hit. For example, using Shaman Crest with Silkspear increases the damage from 3 x Needle Damage to 3.5 x Needle Damage.>This effect is additive, meaning it is more effective on Skills with lower multipliers, typically those with higher hit counts. For example, each hit of Thread Storm goes from 0.75 x Needle Damage to 1.25 x Needle Damage.Why would it make it work that way, this makes Thread Storm with volt fragment single most damaging ability in the game at almost 160 damage (or almost 8 hits of maxed out needle)
>>539617218It's really hard to piece the story together I fucking hate dark souls story telling but what did they do to Verdania? I keep needing to finish it.
In P.Ducts that dead thing at the end. Is that the reason the water there and in bilewater is rotten?
>>539617464it's unclear what they did specifically but Verdania is currently very destroyed so it's safe to say the Citadel wrecked it
>>539617464plundered...
>>539617579the reason the water is so awful is because the Citadel constantly dumps all their sewage into it, it's why the Stilkin in Bilewater hate the Citadel so much
How Lace thought it was gonna go down when she played dead in front of Hornet.
>>539617607>>539617615Is that why the memoria exists? I guess that's why mosshome doesn't have predator. I noticed that in the moss bug entry it said it was weird how it didn't have any because it wasn't particularly tough.
What are some of the best loadouts?
Still no picture of going "my ancestor" to a pharlid?
>>539618047Memoria exists to preserve pieces of everything the Citadel has destroyed. And they did a shit job of that too.
>>539614129So fucking cute
>>539618061I like my shaman. You can replace the claw with few other tools that help with silk gen and compass with dice when fighting bosses
Why didn't PK and WL have children without void
>>539619540Why they didn't before the Void plan, I don't know, but WL felt so bad about all the dead babies after the Void plan that she developed severe self-loathing and put herself in bondage to not have any more kids.
>>539619540they're immortal, they have no need of childrenand with the White Lady it might be that once she starts breeding she can't stop the urge, so they decided not to have any prior
whubuh huh?
>>539619208What tools help with silk gen?
What's the best Hunter build, brehs? Currently I'm using poisoned discs and sting shards, bell shield and fast heal. Yellow tools are conpass because I get lost easily, pilgrim's bag (im fuckin rich) and spider strings
>>539618152I like how the Memoriam showed that not everybody in the Citadel was a crazy zealotAt least until you get to that one room
fuq, so close for a first attempt
>>539621038Next time run faster, IDIOT
>>539621317okay..... i'll try.....
>>539621513*smooch* you can do it this time, buddy. I believe in you!
>>539621513You CAN'T do it. I DON'T believe in you
Lace wouldn't say that.His fat femboy ass would slow him down and he would never get the words out in time
Where do you go after getting clawline? I feel like I've explored everything I can but I have no idea how to progress. The only places I can't get to looks like I need a double jump and I couldn't figure out how to get through the Mists area.
>>539622510Oddly you don't need double jump to finish the game, but you do need it to have fun at the game. Go to Mt Fay.
>>539622592I don't know where that is. Is that through the Mists?
>>539622682Have you been to the slab yet? If not, explore the citadel, explore the areas around far field and around hunters march
>>539622682have you been to prison?
Angry controller bitey retard here, I just escaped the abyss. Holy fuck I love those sequences so much. Though honestly you can't beat the sequence in ori will of the wisp. The ginso tree OST is phenomenal
I'm a bit confused. I'm doing the delivery quests and I've had to deliver the package to Pilgrim's Rest almost three times. Am I doing something wrong or is that supposed to happen?
Playing it over again to get a better feel for a steel soul run. Cogflies are the best weapon in the game and I feel bad for missing them the first time because I didn't have the craft metal. >>539623231They're just a grind for rosaries.
>>539623231They're repeatable
>>539623321>>539623327Oh okay, so I don't need to do them to get to act 3? I'm just trying to get everything for act 3 done.
>>539623231There used to be a cheevo for doing all of them but it seems they changed it and just made it a repeatable for rosaries
>>539623231The quests with a generic package that's just a wrapped bundle can be repeated for more rosaries and are not necessary for progression. The quests with more unique items to deliver are the important ones.
Everyone swears by the Wanderer's Crest, but I've had way more success with the Hunter's. Combining Hunter's thrust attacks and pogos with all your mobility techs is incredibly effective and fluid compared to Wanderer.
>>539623554Wanderer is situationally better than hunter. There's really nothing in the game that is "optimal." Everything has its niche that will just rip apart certain enemies/bosses but fail against others. Generally speaking, architect is considered the best, especially for bosses as you can spam down their second (harder) phase in seconds if you've saved up all your tools. Shaman is also up there for its sword beams and silk damage buffs.
So I didn't bother trying it for fear of actually ruining the magic of the abyss, but what happens if you use beastcall down there? Just doesn't work?
Do the ghosts in the Mist disappear after beating Phantom?
>>539623847It doesn't work don't worry about it.
>>539624101The Mist disappears entirely iirc
>>539624101The entire area is an illusion concocted by the organ. It vanishes instantly after defeating her.
>Doing Cradle Path of Pain>Try to clawline the gap>Fall flat on my ass into the spikes because I was out of silk>"Oops, sorry there gamer, you gotta cling to this fucking rock for another 10 seconds or so before you can keep going!"I am once again asking why this mechanic even exists, since it's only purpose this whole time has seemed to be randomly inconveniencing you out of spite.
>>539624147>>539624226Oh cool
Am I the only one who doesn't like to destroy things like this? Even if it offers a resource I want. I still have the shell shard figure the guy made for me and I never attacked the statue of the pilgrim at bonebottom (before it was so horrendously destroyed..)
>>539622862>>539622865Yeah, I don't have the Apostate key. I thought I'd get it from somewhere else. I'll go back there and look thanks.
>>539622510Go to jail. When you come back from jail, ask about the Mists again, the solution to that area is extremely counterintuitive and nobody will blame you for asking for the hint.
>>539623554I agree. Hunter's is just superior to Wanderer's once you get used to it.
>>539624725If I recall correctly you get that in the putrid ducts. Which is reachable from either the memorium (secret tunnel) or bilewater (very difficult)Also you don't need the apostate key for story content or mt fay, only the heretic and indolant which you should have on progressing through it normally
>>539619208>wasting your only yellow slot on a redundant itemSad.
>>539623554Wanderer is essential whenever the platforming gets hard or you require aerial movement that's actually technical. The floating whale segment on the road to Nameless Village is pure ass with Hunter but trivial with Wanderer. Father of the Flame and Flea Bounce are both 10x harder with Hunter than with Wanderer. Silksong just doesn't have as many precision aerial bits as Hollow Knight, and when it does they tend to be Clawline tech, precisely because of how much worse Hunter is at it. But occasionally it does throw it at you and in those instances just switch crests.
Sorry if this is a stupid question. How do I get to Exhaust Organ? Is it through Sinner's Rise?
>>539625359Brave the Mist. Yes.
So was she just giving out drugs to people for free
>>539625502Joni was a woman??
>>539625232>Wanderer when Shaman existsWhy would you do that to yourself wanderere sucks at platforming. You don't get any air with it's pogos.
>>539625359Yeah or Bilewater, you need to find an area the game calls “The Mist” it’s a Lost Woods scenario
>>539625526There is virtually no situation where you don't get the height you need from any combination of a wanderer pogo + double jump + clawline. What you get in return is better control over where you are and flexibility in what and where you're pogoing. That's what counts.
>>539625232>t. filtered by diagonals
What do you guys reckon would be the worst crest and tools combination, my only rules are this;1) No Cursed Crest2) Crest is fully upgraded (ie full power Hunter and memory lockets)3) Every Tool slot including Verticrests must be filled
>Fighting Grand Mother Silk>Deal the final blow>Start succing her silk>Watch as my silk bar grows larger and largerFUCKING KINOOOOO
>>539625665You can try pretending that smashing a square peg through a round hole means skill, I just call it contrarianism.
>>539625658I mean shaman is objectively the better case use because it's not just height. It's more control.
>>539625502Part of me thinks that she was actually part of the reason why the lifeblood in Hallownest wasn't as bad as what we see in Silksong. I don't know why I think that, but I do.
I've got at least sixty hours in this game now and nothing has made me genuinely consider the stake of marika mod more than the fact I have to, without much in the way of danger, sing a little lullaby and then zip up to the coral tower for about ten seconds before I can have another go at that arena fight. God that's fucking awful game design.
>>539625824You also don't get Shaman until the game is basically over, so for the rest of the entire thing it's Wanderer or Reaper and between those two Wanderer is better.
>>539625784Cope diagonallet
>>539625886You unlock a shortcut after the third arena. Aim for that goal, including reserving your tools for the third one to clear it easily. The memory battles don't consume tools so don't worry about spending them.
I get it game, Coral tower is REALLY pretty the first two times you ascend. But after that, I really just want the ascension to be OVER WITH.
>>539625905You were explicitly using cradle as an example.
>>539625990please god you aren't telling I have to do all the same arenas every time I deep dive into this niggers memories are you??
>>539625886Having to waste time with the Eulogy every time is kind of stupid, but other than that I didn't have any problems with the seafood buffet.
>>539626328if you beat the third arena you unlock a shortcut that skips the first three
>>539626694Biggest obstacle right now is the disc throwing shakra wannabes. Takes some time to get used to that disc actually tracking you.
If I die to those stupid little fucking pink blobfish again instead of to an actual combatant who poses a threat I might actually rip my controller in two with my fucking teeth
>So used to the parry now that I can't enjoy architect. I wish it had one silk ability but I know that's not the gimmick.
>>539627645>he died to the little jellies
>>539627694it happened againThink I'm gonna take a break and, totally not related, peruse a selection of new xbox controllers.
>If he doesn't die pilby just disappears from the gameWhere is this fucker?
How do I escape the all encompassing rage that accompanies bitter defeat and immediate restarting
>>539627872he ascended to godhood
>>539628070take a look at this cute image
>>539628273OOC as heck but cute.
>>539628273I'm still convinced that Lace's clothes are just her body since she's literally made of silk. Still pretty cute tho.
>>539627872I met him at Pilgrem's Rest and I'm told he can get all the way to Songclave but I haven't seen it.
>>539628406the mystery is what makes it intriguing
is lost lace easier than skarrsinger
>>539628406>>539628528What if it's just her shed skin?
>>539628528Very true.
nobody shills beast crest because it fucking sucks
>>539628802I bet she cums silk and you'd never know or maybe those flowers are covered in her silk cum and it's just silk to us
anyone have all achievements yet? i don't really feel like doing the permadeath, or restarting my save for the pokedex
a bug in songclave told me something about hearing laughter in act 2, now im in act 3 and idk wtf he was talking about
>>539628856If the Buzz saw had I frames it would be objectively broken. Without them, it's dogshit.
>>539628903I don't know if anyone here has, but the Steam achievements already have both the harder Steel Soul achievement and the 100% Speedrun achievement with some percentage of players.
>>539628953Check wishboard
>>539629056Those are confirmed cheaters. There are mods on bepin that just make you invincible and the first SteelS 5 hours completion was within the time period where it would be impossible.
>>539624893>redundant itemfuck you mean by that
>>539628528What did she mean when she yelled "SHYAA" and then proceeded to brutally attack Hornet? Is this a new type of romantic overture that I'm not up to date on?
>>539629195Once you've explored the whole map, compass is a wasted slot
I want to do a challenge run. How early can you get the Barbed Bracelet? Or can it be modded into the game yet?
>>539629554>What did she mean when she yelled "SHYAA" and then proceeded to brutally attack Hornet?Probably something like this >>>/trash/77881498
>at no point in the game does hornet say shaw, edino, etcWhy would Team Cherry leave this out of the game? Instead she says fren or something when she heals? Thats what we get instead?
>>539630067>shaw, edino, etcWoah dude, cool it with the slurs there.
How THE FUCK did i miss an entire area to the right of craw lake
>>539630358Because the craws are literal cancer and there's no reason to go there after the first sweep through. Incidentally, I also need to go there now.
>>539630358Oh i already hate these green fags
Is Wanderer just the best crest? Really seems like it.
>beat Silksong 100%>replay HK to see how it matches up>much easier but also surprisingly chill in comparison Take this moment of respite. You've earned it.
>>539628510He disappeared from there and I can't find him.
>been looking for how to do the true ending>do the courier missions, think the first one was bad enough and do the other unique ones in a chain>already in a bad mood by the time i finish the mount fay onethink nothing happens and literally charge attack the mask guy in ragehoping what came after put me towards the true ending
>>539633080Have you found the fleas? When they move to their final location you are extremely close.I think you also have to defeat Groal if you haven't done that yet.Delivery quests aren't needed for act 3 AFAIK.
>>539634049thought i got all the fleas, but i guess not. pretty annoying that they made you basically 100% the game in order to get the true ending compared to the first game but it is what it is
>>539634049Can skip groal until act 3.
>>539634356You don't need all of them, just enough to make them go to the last location If you found putrified ducts there is an npc that will sell you their locations.>>539634402Ok, I heard somewhere he was needed, I defeated first, so was unsure.
>>539634607really? where is he
>>539634402you need to kill Groal for the quest that starts Act 3
>>539634607Oh wait. I confused myself. I was thinking of something else. You do need him but you don't need it until you get the final wish from act 2. He's honestly the worst thing about act 2.
Uhh am i BRICKED if i didn't get conjoined heart before going to snails with the other three
>>539634730Putrified Ducts is reached by the Memorium, the npc is reached through letting yourself be caught by vines in a specific location to climb a platforming section.
>>539634878nevermind, i read the description
>>539634975Technically if you finished bilewater its faster from there.
>>539618113...I wonder if the "curse" sterilizing the Weavers could have been worked around by back-breeding with them. It would be fitting given how much of a plot-point their "uplifted" status is a secret seems to be. Could also turn it into a meaningful three-parent arrangement post-game using a Pharlid sperm-doner and doing the Silk uplift with replaceable parts of Lace on both the "consort" and later children.>>539619540Given the whack-ass seed-eggs the Vessels came out of and the very long list of questionable biology mashing botanical and arthropodal traits together involves, I assume that there's something the Void did making them considerably more viable.This not JUST because I find the idea of them getting a fully-functional requiring Unn calling shots from Mosskin design work in the middle of the act funny.>>539628706Could be like human skin, where wearing-out Silk goes through her surface forming a clothing-like layer that protects her more-living innards from damage, then eventually gets shed as dregs. Might be a feature Phantom lacks that costs much more Silk on a day-to-day basis in exchange for a longer lifespan.
>you can skip the Underworks entirely after Last Judge by just going up the balance platforms and breaking a wall on the rightDamn this game is great, I know Phantom route is a thing too but fuck the Underworks in general
Only i have constant crashes while final boss fight? I had three already
>>539632864Shame 90% of the bosses are so boring
>>539629780Wow that thread blows ass
Did anyone else go all the way back to the tutorial area after getting Silk Soar just to see if it would take you all the way to the Blasted Steps?
Shit, why didn't you tell me that Twisted Bud whines in the all menu screens even pre-Infection?? Now it's going to annoy me the entire rest of the Act 2.
>>539639041You can calm it down for a bit by hovering over it in the inventory, its a baby it wants attention :3
>>539634878You are only bricked if you didnt save Pilby
>>539639041>Finds baby>Doesn't immediately take it to his momWhat did you expect?
Now that the Knight have taken King's Brand from his Wyrm husk, would his pale aura gradually fade and all Hallownest bugs revert to being non-sapient?.. The wind stopped.
does using the bellway and/or using the beastly summon thing to go back to the bellway respawn enemies, like you've rested at a bench?
>>539639470There are other sentient bugs there who arent the kings subjects like Cornifer so I doubt it, that was just PK propaganda.
>>539639462Silkeaters are much more polite, they're silently waiting to be eaten.
>>539639470Given the Weavers don't seem to have any such issue after they locked up their own uplifting god, it seems to be a one-and-done.
>>539634878>>539635051btw, isn't it kinda crazy that we just kill that guy in cold blood and display his still-beating heart on our shelf like a trophy? Sure, he was a fag, but still
>>539639563We know for the fact that Higher Beings uplift bugs around them tho. Moths, Mushrooms, Moss, Weavers have their own uplifting Higher Being, but what about Elderbug & Co?..Quirrel lost his memory when he was outside of Hallownest, but (presumably) not his sapience, so I dunno.
>>539639980He wanted to die but its kinda poorly written and concludes given literally everything else in the questline. But at least its nice for people who want to skip Coral Tower or Karmelita.
>>539639567I wonder what silkeaters taste like.
>>539640683Glue
>>539639567Seems Hornet is also polite. As she waits for the baby to eat her.
Slicksong
>>539642301Sinksong
>>539615479People used the knowledge of aspies for 100% completion, then stopped posting. Parasites.
>>539615479There's another Silksong general on /v/ that gets a lot of traction.
>>539643594I thought /v/ was not allowed to have generals?
>>539643262Nta but sad, I beat the true final boss yesterday, so I can return here, but there's not much discussion.
Do you think anyone out there is bad enough to have died to the big conchflies boss in blasted steps
>>539594668Disgusting pictureKill yourself
????????Why?
sands of karak is fucking hell
>>539645627Because they'll just send more goons to kidnap her again, and she'll have to deal with it forever, because she's practically immortal. Hornet doesn't want to live her life running away from Pharloom, that would be a shitty existence.
>>539645628Now imagine doing it when the sandworms did double damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLp6CXLr5g8so it's that easy huh?
>watch someone fight Mantis Lords>looks like an average Silksong boss>remember that I set the video to x1.5 speedUh oh.
I hear people mentioning they had Shakra and Garmond&Zala helping with bosses and gauntlets. In my playthrough they never helped. I still meet them regularly, just not during Grand Hunts/Gauntlets.What I was doing wrong?..
>>539648771No idea. I've only seen Garmond and Second sentinel exterminating bugs in hallways.
>>539643716There's been a few good threads of lore discussion but sadly this site is kinda shit for it these days, you didnt miss much.
>>539645906That's what she says to herself, but who knows what the real reason is.Maybe she was curious about her Weaver's homeland (including Weaver power-ups).Maybe she was glad to visit the kingdom that's still alive.Maybe all the reasons combined.
>>539626013Just the latest example it's been like this the whole time.
Hornet saved pharloomThe knight couldn't save hallownestThus, Hornet>The knight
Any whiteward creepypastas yet?
>>539594668Now that we now that Lace and Hornet end up together AND are half sisters (eva being now part of hornet) do we expect a duo protagonist in HK3? What should be the subtitle? The combination of Hornet serious nature contrasted to Lace playfulness is just too cute; it opens so many narrative branches and interactions.The fact that both are voiced by nips should have been a big hint on the ending.
Just got an achievement for discovering all Bellways stations, but there's clearly at least 5 more stations. What gives?
>>539594668What First Sinner's theme called?
uhm, do Lace have a mask?
>>539650251DLC
>>539594668Sex with Lace
Wait, so The Mist is now permanently gone? Thank goodness I died enough times top get hunter journal entry for Wraith.
Do you guys reckon there's any possibility we'll see the Grimm Troupe (or some other off-shoot of the Nightmare Heart's followers) show up in the DLC?
>>539651153You get it automatically when the area vanishes
>>539650436(Me)It's the same as Widow's theme.
>>539651270Wisp Thicket seems a good place for them to appear if they will be here.
Lace ended up charming me way more than I thought she would, I practically LOVE her atm bwos...In the inevitable anime adaptation who should voice her? My dream? Atsumi Tanezaki. I'm clueless about Hornet... you know, she is kind of a M.A.O. character...
>>539604753Nigga what
>>539606191Quick reminder that he gets into the citadel even if you didn't open the front gate because you went through the exhaust organ. This means the Last Judge found him pure of heart and worthy to enter the Citadel
I finally did it bros, I'm almost free. All the heart bosses are dead and I'm at 92% completion. It's just the final collectathon of tools, masks, spools, and memory lockets before the game is over.
>Can't hold more than 10 Silkeatersstingy
If I kill the crust king here my journal is fucked unless I’ve already filled everything out, right?
>Wreath of Purity's durability still gets lower internally even if visually it wasn't damagedI hoped "many little dips" would make it not break ("floor is magma" tactic), but I guess I'm not that lucky. "Stages" of breaking is just a visual indicator, Wreath of Purity's durability is continuous.
>>539652873No, it autofills out anything you can no longer encounter in the game
I'm torn on Verdania. On one hand, it's cool for there to be a big secret area as a reward to explore. But at the same time, it's such a cool area that it's a shame to keep it hidden. And I wouldn't even say it's hidden well. Like, Ash Lake is the king of bullshit hidden areas since it's behind 2 illusory walls but at least they put chests in front of the walls to bait you into swinging and accidentally tripping them. For Verdania, why would you even be in that part of Greymoor in Act 3 besides walking around the perimeter of every room in case something opened? You can't even say it's a conspicuous Shine Spark opening since you can reach that spot back in Act 1. It's just a random door that randomly opens. I think a ton of players are gonna miss one of the best areas and best bosses in the game unless they check a guide in search of the hundo trophy.
>Beat the ant diva and the coral warrior fella>On my way to the 3rd heartAm I a gamer yet?
>feel silly and decide to learn Crest of the Beast>no blue tool>don't learn Crest of the Beast
>>539653778Vesticrest.
I'm gonna say itI'm fucking glad Seth diedThey ruined his memory with this fucking flea garbage. I'm actually gonna go bald trying to do this bullshit
>>539648771Before the update, Garmond&Zala asked me if I wanted help with Moorwing. They're waiting on the path from the fast travel to Moorwing.I hear you need all of Shakra's maps for her to help you with the High Halls arena.
Rate my top 5 bosses
>>539654580Go beat the REAL dancers
>>539654580Good choices, not identical to mine, but they were still fun.Skarrsinger is probably the one I died the most, aside from the true final boss.
>>539654651The one in Verdania? I think it's barely an upgrade and kinda boring when you already fought the Cogwork Dancers. There's like one or two different variants of attack, I think?>>539654909I think I died to Karmelita more times than to the true final boss, but she's still such a fun fight
>>539649975Hallownest was already destroyed since a long time. Hollow knight returning is basically its only shot at retaining what little order remains And allowing it to grow again. Cleansing the area of all the undead and the permanent mind sickness of Radiance is worthy enough
what's your favoritr hornet linefor me it's mejina fora
So Beast crest pogo... it goes forward a bit and the attack doesn't start immediately, making air combat harder. On the other hand it's very easy to chain pogos on stuff directly in front of you, since you spring forward a lot when attacking. I think i like the crest. The distance to pogo will take some practice though
>>539653746You're over the hump, the last heart boss is way easier than the other two. Just walk in with a full tool loadout. The boss has a guard but it doesn't respawn after you beat it so you're safe to return to the bench to get a refill.
Does Lace take damage from falling into lava?
"I knew silksong being $20 was too good to be true. This game is filled with in-game purchases. Wanna fast travel? Pay. Wanna use a bench? Pay. Wanna keep your rosaries on death? Pay. Hornet can't be bothered to string beads. Never thought I'd see the day Team Cherry implements micro-transactions."
>>539658870Not sure. I knocked her into it once. She seemed unaffected.
If you waited until Act 3 to kill the Forge Brothers, would all their adds be void-corrupted?
Finishing Silksong made me want to replay Hollow Knight again. And then I remember I haven't cleared all of Godhome Pantheons yet...
Oh no, my bouncy balls!
>>539659338Time to get Embrace the Void and make your playthrough canon, anon.
>>539654127It's pure rng.Was stuck at 40 for 45min when I did it and then suddenly got 120.By the way mine did not have Seth record on it. How do you make Seth move there? Is he still alive after you get the heart?
no fucking way those fat brothers delivered packages this quickly
This room will be the fucking death of meSO many instances where taking damage is literally unavoidable, and all these retards hit for 2?!Fuck this.
>>539659849They can fly.
>>539659859Find allies (Garmond, Shakra or Second Sentinel) and destroy the clawweaver nest.Alternatively do what I did and simply butt your head into it until you manage it.
>>539659859All? I thought only some attacks from them did two.Other than maybe killing the annoying mobs asap, I don't have much advice since I did it without red tools, and solo, but still, good luck.
>>539654580Very solid picks, what do you think of mine?
>>539660386All enemies have attacks that hit for two, but not all attacks do.I can reliably get to the stage where you fight the two big guys, but I have no idea if its even the last because I never got past it. But while I can kill him when one is alone hitless, this is literally just impossible.ALL of his attacks hit for two (I don't count the ground explosion because I never get hit by it, still, it zones too much) and very often I am forced to either take contact damage to dodge the attack of the second one or tank a full on attack to dodge another one. It's so fucking sickening.There are good ways to do multi target fights, like the dancers, but this is not it.
>>539660589Love it. I actually really like horrible bosses because they're the most fun when a streamer has to beat them.Good bosses are fun to fight, bad bosses are fun to watch, not only that but they add a relief section where anything near it feels good just by the contrast of it.
>>539660743>I can reliably get to the stage where you fight the two big guys, but I have no idea if its even the last because I never got past it. But while I can kill him when one is alone hitless, this is literally just impossible.It's the last wave. The game spawns them on each side and that's an intended death trap. You have to quickly manipulate one of them so you have both on the same side and then the fight is WAY easier.Pogo is the way to go, you only have to pay attention to their attack where they jump, but it has an obvious tell and you can quickly dash while in the air to reposition yourself.You are close anon.
>>539659859I beat this and then gave up in the bilewater.Just could not find the hidden bench, watched all the endings on youtube in rage.
>>539660743The two big guys are the last ones. The key is like this anon >>539661061 said, make them to be on the same side and it will be much easier to dodge their attack. The Cogwork Wheel also works amazing for them since they're big
>>539660743Just pogo in them, they can't do shit except one jump attack and by this point you would retreat to wall and heal.
>>539660743>I can reliably get to the stage where you fight the two big guys, but I have no idea if its even the last because I never got past it. But while I can kill him when one is alone hitless, this is literally just impossible.Nah you got a couple more rounds and then you fight three of them at one time
Let's goTurns out I needed to zone out and just let reflexes take overSomehow every time I am struggling with a boss for days, then make a post complaining about it, I beat it soon after.Expect more complaining, my good luck charm.
>the only void mass in bilewater is near the entrance from sinner's roadeven void doesn't want to deal with that shit
>>539660743>this is literally just impossibleHere's a vid of me doing the impossible: https://files.catbox.moe/4n7tsd.mkv (skip to the end)I abused silk spear, but as the other anon(s) said, you could probably pogo as well, and should probably put them all to one side.That said, I still think it's a bs fight putting those 2 at the end like that. Every time you fail you have to do the whole arena over and that sucks imo.
>>539661628I figured you were that same Anon. Works every time. Happy I could lend an ear again.
>>539661628Good luck on Lace 2. I suggest cheesing the third phase with cogflies while wall jumping out of range of their attacks.
>>539660589Just realized Palestag is dream warrior-tier.
>tfw I did High Hall arena first tryI know the last wave is cheap but I don't get why everyone complains so much. There's walls you can jump on to avoid the AoEs and you should have clawline for movement/i-frames, although I don't think I was even using clawline in combat at that point.
>>539662439I did it without clawline and doublejump I think? Can't remember. Took 3 or 4 tries. The difficulty depends entirely if you are the type of player that is used to aerial combat with nail. There is not much space to move so if you're like someone who play hit and run, this tactic does not really work well here.
Which vendor has the best return on the rosary consumables?
>>539625735probably reaper, because you can't make use of staggers or lace laughing as well, it's not that much more range than using long claw on other crests and the silk generation gimmick is outclassed by simply hitting more with hunter or worse, wanderer
>>539639470Pale King doesn't grant sapience, but civilization. Basically turns bugs white.
If an enemy has an attack that heats/cooks/fries if you kill them with their attack, you might get seared food for the Huntress' quest. Happened to me in the memorium.>>539662439I made it to last wave on my first try. Keep in mind this is a new enemy, and there's suddenly not much room. Small things witled me down. Did a pogo and one of them jumped into it. They also kept alternating hits between one another. Was a pain to even be able to get near them. Eventually they got me.>>539662924Probably which every one makes the biggest necklace. It seems the price for any is +20 rosaries. Maybe Frey 'cause she does the 120+20 necklaces? Idk if Julibiana does a better one though.
>>539625735For combat it's reaper. I know it's a crutch for many anons here, mainly because it's a good crest for act1, but it simply does not scale well into act2/3 and does not provide anything meaningful other than the extra range.You will barely get any "free skill" against most lategame bosses.
>>539663018>Pale King: Do you have some white in you?>Lady: No.>Pale King: Do you want some?
>>539663208*"free silk" I mean
>>539663208I used reaper all my run because I got so fed with ants running into me barely being affected by nail swings but it's so fucking bad, almost every one is bad in comparison really, wanderer didn't need the crit and it didn't need to combo with the dice, turns crests from options with pros and cons to one being the absolute best, and to top it off architect is probably the second best nail oneand worse, all you need for wanderer is a simple key or climbing, and it's right next to the first areaI know what I'm grinding towards when I start another run
>>539663208It scales perfectly fine through Act 2. The range and moveset reduce risk and improve chances for survival, not everyone needs to play the glass cannons. Yes, there's better options by Act 3 and Reaper's strengths stop being as advantageous.
>>539650217I would be surprised if Lace doesn’t come back in some form in future content.
>>539636604I just assumed you couldn't use the scales platforms the first time I saw themAnd walked past like an idiot
>>539661809>the counter to getting consumed by void is to just live in abject filth and squalor
KILL FLIES. BEHEAD FLIES. CUT FLYS INTO LITTLE PIECES. SET FLIES ON FIRE WITH FLINTSLATE. PUT A PIMPILLO IN A FLY'S MOUTH. CRACK A FLY'S NECK. ROUNDHOUSE KICK A FLY INTO LAVA. SLAM DUNK A BABY FLY INTO A TRASH COMPACTOR. GENOCIDE FILTHY FLIES. RIP OFF A FLY'S WINGS. STAB FLIES IN THE EYES. PLAY THE NEEDOLIN FOR FLIES TO GO INTO THEIR MEMORIES AND MURDER THEIR FLY FAMILIES IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES THEN RIP THEIR HEARTS OUT AND PILE THEM UP AND SET THEM ON FIRE. DISREPSECT FLIES. INCONVENIENCE FLIES AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. MURDER FILTHY FLIES. TORTURE FLIES TO DEATH. FEED FLIES TO MUCKDOGS. EXTERMINATE FLIES. DESTORY THE FLY MATRIARCH AND END THEIR ENTIRE RACE.TOTAL. FLY. DEATH.
>Flea falls off stage where I can't reach it>Haha guess that counts as a missThis shit is going to drive me crazy.
>>539660173Garmond can help you in High Halls??
>>539664530Bro your shaman?
>>539636604>>539664254I didn't know you can hit them from below to move them. I think I tried, but couldn't get on it, and assumed I needed a double jump or something.
>>539664574Garmond? Who is that? Surely a joke by TC that only some players actually see him more than twice in the fucking game.
>>539659859spam poison boomerangs and traps
>>539664586Huh?
>>539665069I can contest that I've only seen him twice without intentionally looking for him. Thrice if you count the Moorwing encounter.
>>539665829>Huh?That’s how you sound right now. Yeah, feeling pretty silly, right?
Abyss escape is cancer.
>>539666372No, just confused.
>>539666820It's kino. The only bad thing about it is this stupid offscreen rock falling that you can't avoid nor see the first time you get there. Apart from this single stupid design mistake, it's incredible.
>>539664574So I heard, if you find him before him going to songclave and duel him.
I've seen second sentinel a few times in act 3, but does he have another quest or is it just a random feelgood event?
>>539667501He's just around, helping you kill enemies sometimes
Im stuck at that area in hunters marsh with the final miniboss flying and spear guy, how the fuck am I suppose to dodge in all that chaos
>>539669329git gud
>>539669329Good, you must get.
>>539669329The miniboss has a lot of health, but not that muchSpam those tools to melt him
>>539669329Kill the flying guy as soon as possible, don't be afraid to take a hit or two to do it since you'd take more if he lives any longer. It shouldn't take more than a few second to burn him that way, then you can focus on the other guy.I'm assuming you're talking about the first arena after the platforming and not the fight above the rest bench? Either way, just kill the flying asshole as soon as possible. If you're in early game, just go back a little later. There's two good items there but they're not worth going through that hell without the first few upgrades/tools.
High Halls gauntlet can suck my dick. Fucker is 10 minutes long and I probably died on the last wave.
>>539669650>>539669756What tools I only have that throw shuriken thing and the spear toss
Wanderer enjoyers, what red tool are you using?
>>539669903Oh you're Act 1Tool spam would probably still work, alpha strike them as hard as you can
>>539670019None. Though I don't use red tools on any crest for the most part.
>>539669329I've not beaten it yet. Tried for 45 minutes before work today. I found the beast crest can easily pogo the flying guy three-four times in a row, but I usually die to over focus, allowing big guy to get hits in.
>>539669329use the boomerang with the poison tool and spam that shit to kill the flying guy asap. Once the flying guy is dead, the big guy is fairly easy because his attacks are predictable.It may take a few tries, because that enemy combo is complete horseshit, but that's how I beat it
>>539670019Triple daggers is a nice all-rounder for a single tool for Wanderer, gives you range and can multiple opponents or a big guy multiple times,
>>539670271Damn they can a big guy multiple times?
>>539670191>>539669329Just to be clear, you're talking about these two, right?
>>539670421No the miniboss where the map guy helps you out
>>539669903Threefold pin and Sting Shard might be some of the only ok very early game red tools capable of burning an enemy down quickly. Pollip pouch is great for a blue tool. So essentially I wouldn't attempt it until after the Far Fields boss or just before the Shellwood boss.
>>539670421I was talking about those guys. Although I've killed the flying guy before. Just need to not die in the process.
>>539670541Savage Beastfly you're talking about? Savage Beastfly, the duo in that pic, and the arena/gauntlet are the only 3 challenges I remember from Hunters March Act 1.
>>539669329I simply dodged everything while letting Shakra handle it, that was before I started using tools.
>>539670541shakra is an amazoness, a map mommyare you talking about the gauntlet at the start where you get waves of enemies?
>>539670862Yes that one where you 1v1 a spear bug then mapbug helps out midway
>no comfy thread on /v/it's OVER
>>539670421It is unironically more demanding than most of the bosses of act 1
>>539653706I discovered it by accident because I was trying to find the new craws in the lake, and noticed a new hole on the wall. Sidenote: I think it's hilarious how the Green Prince carried the animatronic all the way back to Greymoor. Reminded me of Zote and the helmet he brought back to Dirtmouth
>>539653706>walking around the perimeter of every room in case something openedthis is basically what i did throughout act 3
>>539670965I'd say those two are the hardest fight of act 1 but they take less time to kill than TLJ, although once you know the trick of killing the flying ant it's easy.
>>539670957what the hell, I never had her help me out anywhere. Not that I mind, though. I had the bug rider help me out against Moorwing at first, and that fight became much harder because it just turned into pure chaos. When I restarted the game and did the fight solo, it was much easier.
>>539671927does shakra have a fucking tail? how did that only now register for me
Finished it last night 100%. Gotta say I just hate the very final boss. She's black, the hazards are black the scenery is black it all blends in. She even teleports behind hazards to hit you it's such bullshit. Other than that the game is kino.
>>539672293Lace becomes 100% nigga and you have to beat the sense back into her…
>>539673354Lace jumping in to screw over GMS was a nigga moment...
>another friend just turned in the Twisted BudNo greater joy from this game than listening to people cry about unlocking the Crest of The Raped.
>>539672293I just finished it 100% too. Both last bosses of each ending were dogshit.My biggest problem with the game is that it feels like there is too much random obnoxious bullshit in the game compared to HK, as well as actual honest-to-god randomness in bosses. In a game with a gamemode where your fucking save file gets deleted if you die, I should fucking hope you can plan for shit. Genuinely what the fuck were they thinking?
>>539660958Any particularly lulzy streamers?
>>539672058That's and abdomen, not a tail. Bug bodies have 3 main parts, the head, the thorax and the abdomen. Head houses the mouth, eyes, antennae, shit you'd expect, thorax is where their legs and wings (if they have them) attach along with their muscles that drive those limbs & wings, and it houses some of their internal organs as well. Majority of their internal organs however, including their digestive track and reproductive organs, are housed in their abomen.
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>mfw just found out that putrified duct plant with vine will die if it tries to eat poisonous cogflythe attention to detail is insane as always
I still fail to understand the whole verdania and cogwork thing. was it GMS or some pharloom king before GMS came along? was it a target for conquest? why would cogwork thing make them spare verdania? spare from what? being exploited for resources?
>>539674125That's hot
>>539676114The Verdania thing was after GMS got sealedMaybe he decided to make it as part of a pact with the Citadel "I give you this powerful cogwork and you leave Verdania alone" kind of deal?
Act 3 won't trigger if I don't get all 3 songs, right? I've heard that there's a shitload of stuff you can miss if you enter act 3.
>>539677160>shitload2 optional boss. Shakra and Garmond
>>539677160You only trigger Act 3 by going to the tippy top of the Citadel. You can get all 3 songs and open the way and even go to the next screen (in fact, you should), but don't go much further than that.
>>539670019Triple knives or fire sword.
I like how much the hunter's journal entries give Hornet additional characterization.Especially her entries that showcase her love of fluffy bugs. She is outwardly so stoick and kind of cold so it is nice seeing her more feminine side even if it is just in the journal entries.
>>539651679She already has a voice
>>539656835EIRA
>>539656835GARAMA
>>539656835Naao!
>>539661628I'm looking forward to replaying the game so I can see what the deal with this room is. Genuinely I can't even remember doing it, but its regularly giving people panic attacks.
>>539675434There's a switch to fix it to the left iirc
>>539677593nta, but thanks. Been holding on to all 3 songs for a while since I didn't know when the point of no return was.
>>539674525It’s actually insanely easy to no hit every single boss in the game. I felt similarly to you until I realized the depth of just how dogshit I was and resolved to get better
Alright, now that the dust has settled: WHICH crest’s GARAMA is the best?
>>539670019The upgraded boomerang.
Ability to purchase multiple of the same item when?
>>539680075is this hidden quest blocked in act 3? I managed to get the 4 targets to appear but it never did anything when I hit all 4 at once
>>539661628Is this the one with two hammer boys, or I'm thinking of another gauntlet? Because I cheesed that shit with the buzzsaw.
>>539670019Threefold Pins mostly for annoying flying enemies
Just beat Karmelita, what do I do with her heart, considering I already used up 3 for the flashback sequence?
>>539681923you can put it as memento in your bellhome
lmao loserlike everything in this game, this part was unnecesarry long, and for what I read about silk song, it feels like team cherry doubled donw on the tedious part of the game
>>539666372I just found it and now I do feel silly. That could have been so much easier.
>>539624581I was sad you weren't given a quest to rebuild the statue after the Skull Tyrant broke it. I wish you were able to put the Hornet statue in your home somewhere. In the same vein, I kept the Pristine Core until the end in the vain hope of being able to resurrect the Architect somehow
I know this might sound like a meme but how are people having troubles with the high halls gautlet? The basic enemies are really easy to beat, and as long as you focus on killing the bell trower first you will be fine, if the silk eater spawns just spook it with a silk spear, for the first big guy just hug the wall and pogo him, and for the final 2 just spam the cogwork wheel. Hell, you could use the cogflies and spam them in the first big guy and go town.
>>539682717I used the power of friendship with Shakra to beat it.
>>539681923enjoy red butt with cock and balls and a face tattoo forever tainting your bellhome
what does the coon monster in sand of karak even drop to warrant such a runback and such a retardedly hard fight?
>>539683165throwable cone
>>539683445i don't need more tools fuck that fucking shit
>>539683508it's actually quite good for certain bosses
>>539683918i bet those enemies are easier to fight than it
>>539683165The raging conchfly is not a hard fight, stop psyopping yourself into believing this. Just kill it, retard.
>>539684248nah not going back it's nor worth it
>>539663018Maybe bugs have goldfish memory without Pale King? Quirrel was sapient amnesiac outside of Hallownest. While the Knight didn't lose all it's memories, it did lose memories of Abyss while it was traveling outside.
Karmelita is just Traitor Lord but sings, no idea why the fuck would anyone put her in their top 5.
FUCK ABYSSFUCK LAVA AND FUCK YOU TEAM CHERRY
>>539685171She hot.
>>539669329whenever you have trouble with a fight vs multiple enemies the answer is to spam toolsboomerang and traps is a good combo
Is it even possible to beat the plasmium-ed assistant? I've been spamming high damage tools + nail, but nothing. Maybe it's just to farm plasmium blood?
>>539685539yes
>>539685539it is, you might need to upgrade your nail to kill him faster
>>539614129Ghost looks like he wants to fucking murder the school mascot.
Where in Silksong do you get wallpaper-worthy scenes like this
>>539688108silk golem my beloved
>>539688108like this?
>>539688108
>>539678315you know how is extra fluffy? ... Lace~they hinted their future together in the whole game; Hornet talking about how she could never find anyone because she lives for too long was a huge insight on what's to come.
>>539688816I get what you’re saying about longevity, but woven silk is not really fluffy. It’s a very smooth type of fabric.
>>539688289they 100% intended this to look like white lilies but may have thought it was just too on the nose
>>539689967White roses do actually fit her character as well.
>>539682160>I need this vessel to be an unthinking box to stuff the Radiance in forever>Therefore, to ensure it can't think, I'm going to personally train the box into being the strongest fighter in the land, gift it with the sickest drip geo can buy, and take it on father-son bonding sessionsWhat was he thinking?
>>539685171Karmelita is Pure Vessel but cute and red. Her 3 hit combo is the exact same as PV's and you respond to it in the same way: up, back, pogo.
I got deep into the secret area locked behind a simple key in Deep Docks. I reached this flintstone thing. Do you need to something here? I can only inspect it.
>>539691004It's just a little lore/world building thing for something else, like a Hunter's Journal but for materials.
>accidentally rested in the purified ductsdid i ruin my saveam i stuck here forever
why does hornet fuck her little brother so much
>>539691004it's there to troll you, which is narratively interesting and deepens the experience you have with the game
>>539691232Bro your double jump?
>>539691232Enjoy the duct lifeThere's a Bell Beast station in there
cogwork dancers have some bullshit hitboxes
>>539692518You have some bullshit dodges.
>>539691568but everything else there? fuck me>>539692176i did come using it i nope'd the fuck out the first time i came. i just picked some protection against the maggots and the apostate key but no map. good enough for today i need to get the fuck out
The dead guy can keep the Flea high scores and his memento. I'm not masochistic enough to do that shit. I'm just glad I got the oil before he made it that much harder
>See people talk about the Crawfather>Look it up>You have to fight 4 waves of crow retards (the most annoying enemies) to summon him, then he spends the whole fight permanently summoning crow retard backup while flinging his fat ass at you for 2 contact damageShan't be doing that shit, game. Stop making the most obnoxious bosses to ever exist.
I'm not 100% but is it scripted that Shakra helps you in that one early game gauntlet?I don't remember what area it was by now
>>539693509It is an option. She doesn’t show up if you haven’t met the right conditions.
>>539693508if it makes you feel better it's like savage beastfly but funny
>>539693509>I don't remember what area it was by nowhunter's march
>>539691232I got the map and found the NPC at the top. there is an area with clear water but it's empty, I guess it's important later? Anyway seems like I'm done except for the NPC quest. Fuck that area and fuck all the areas with maggots
What really gets me about the flying enemies in this game is how they'll hover directly above you but 3 jumps up so there's nothing in your kit besides cogflies that can hurt them. The fat crows and the bell chuckers are really bad about it, but it's not uncommon. It almost makes me think that Hornet originally had something like Abyss Shriek in her kit, and they designed the flyers around it, but then they took that spell away and left everything else unchanged.
>>539696114Did you also find the secret blue tool at the top?
>>539696283FUCK no I only found the flea NPC at the top
>>539696393It is in the same general area. The wooden boards that drop you back down into the middle of the room is right next to where it is. Check your map.
>>539696746No I don't think I will I'm not going back
Since we now know the ending where the Hollow Knight survives is canon, I hope we get to see the big lug in a DLC
>539697209weak bait
Does saving this rancid little jewish creature ever do anything?
For the Architect's Melody, was I supposed to have written down how this is supposed to look ahead of time or something?
>>539698107it's just not a puzzle
>find Bilewater for the first time through that drop at bottom-right of Whispering Vaults>place isn't difficult, so far>first item find is a crying baby that keeps crying while I view inventory>mosquitoes respawn just like in BlighttownI'm liking this place already
>>539697974At first he gives info if you pay him. After, he sells stuff once you have double jump.
>>539698305Besides for the last line, this was me. Now make your way to the boss and see if you feel the same
Everything in act 3 sucks. It's all shitty mini-games, bosses with annoying runbacks, and bosses with bullshit moves. Here's a guy that just teleports directly in front for free contact damage, have fun idiot. What is this shit? Did they just forget how to make a good game?
>Architect best crest>Hunter and Shaman closely follow>Hunter is the most fun if you know how to use all mobility techniquesWho else agrees?
Do I really want to suffer through all this shit above Cradle?
>>539698820mostly having way less playtesters and trying to mix everything up
>the door has disappearedkek can i really not rest until i defeat the first sinner
>phase 4why first sinner...
how i can reach it?
>>539675078actually it's her ovipositor. her abdomen is just her hips
>>539696998You want it. Trust me.
>>539698951What's so good about Architect? I don't really understand the point of three red slots. I've only really used tools against bosses and it feels like there's always just one optimal one you should be using.Haven't gotten shaman yet but I do enjoy hunter. Bouncing around with it is much more fun than the others. However, I've really gotten into the speed of wanderer and I don't know if I could give it up now.
>>539702040It’s just architectvirgins trying to convince people that their needle arts are superior. All fake. Wanderer cannot be bested.
>>539701206There's a secret area above greymoor that you get to with wall jump. You get to the flea from that area.
>>539691004There's stupid shit like this all over the place. There to say "oh, did you wonder what that tool was made of? well here it is!"yes, very interesting indeed to actually see the magnetite that my magnetite dice is made from. very good, team cherry. never would i have guessed that magnetite has magnetic properties had i not seen the magnetite outcropping in person with my own two eyes
>>539702040>However, I've really gotten into the speed of wanderer and I don't know if I could give it up now.Facking same, bro. I had the mindset of "this is the default crest, so I'll just stick with this forever. I'll just learn to main it, is all." However, I decided to play with wanderer for a bit, just for fun, and now I can't go back. 20+ hours of Hunter's crest thrown away after 2 mins of Wanderer. The pogo feels so good, and the speed is pleasant.
How do I know where void masses are?
>>539703804Just run aroundYou only need 12 out of like 45If you enter a screen and every enemy on screen is voided from the start, there's a void mass somewhere on that screen
>>539703487For me, I played hunter for bosses and reaper for exploration for most of acts 1 and 2, then my fight against the first sinner showed me the way of wanderer and I basically havent switched off sinceI would love for there to be a NG+ mode where every crest is unlocked from the start, though. I think the witch moveset is byfar the coolest, but I did not want to learn how to be good with the bind for itI'd like a playthrough where I go full witch/shaman
>>539671927me beneath shakra
>>539703804POSHANKAPOSHANKAPOSHANKAPOSHANKA
>>539704745Anon what are you doing?
>>539656835when Hornet said yanare i really felt it in my soul
>missing 5 enemy entries after the birdsDid I miss something?
>>539705291brother you missed everything
>>539702040>I don't really understand the point of three red slots.Lategame tools, like Cogflies, are ridiculously good, especially with the poison buff. The typical strat of Architect is to beat a boss down with normal attacks during their first phase, then spam them down with tools during the second. That typically knocks bosses down to 10% or less health, easy enough to finish off with a few attacks. Additionally, Architect's heavy attack is the best of all crests.
first sinner was such a kino fight
>>539705334???
>>539705863It's the saving grace of a dogshit chapter 3Shame about the reward
what if
>>539703487I find it funny that the devs tried to reinvent the wheel and couldn't create a better moveset than the knight's.
>>539698820Act 3 is the result of extreme fart huffing. People extensively criticized the "teleports into you with zero visual tells" issue of the contact damage back in the first game in particular and they only made it worse.Sure, i can just melt all bosses, but at this point i may as well play something else instead of doing shitty minigames and half-assed voided enemy gauntlets.
>>539706031I did it in act 2 was i not supposed to>skillit's pretty powerful and cool looking tho. should work against bosses that spam minions since it has a bigger range than thread storm
>>539706635>it's pretty powerfulIt's completely random which devalues it against these sperg enemies and requires significant charge time.
>>539677160NoAfter you get the songs, there is a penultimate boss, then the "final" boss. You have to do a quest to do something specific to the "final" boss to begin act 3There are 2 duels and 2 separate achievements that are tied to endings of act 2 that are "missable"Meaning, if you want to get all achieveos possible on your run, you'll have to beat that boss 3 times. There's a chance you've already locked yourself out of one of the endings, thoughbeitSubscribe to my posts if you wish to know more
>>539698951I don't like the thrust attack on the shaman, or the pogo on the architect. Hunter remains the best just because you can burst so much damage with the thrust into pogo. Combine this with hit-and-run style tactics where you're dashing and ziplining away after a few pogos, and it makes for a very effective and fun crest.
>one button is wasted on a minimap when they could easily bind it to hold select>one button is wasted on needolin>as a result they were forced to retain the terrible directional input instead of modernizing controls
>let's do mantis lords but less fun and more gayAnd they made the cogwork dancers
>>539707125The bigger waste is the right thumbstick basically doing nothing.
>>539707384Needolin also basically does nothing in combat. Could as well shove it deep into some contextual button combo.
>>539707384It lets you look up and down which is extremely important.
>>539707683You can do that with the left stick.>>539707006Just use the clawline if you want hunter style running thrusts on other crests.
>speedrunners routing True End are using Shaman with Volt FilamentWandererfags in SHAMBLES, kinda crazy you can get True Ending in under 4 hours.
>>539707929With the right stick it's quicker. Very important.
>>539708140Silkswarm becomes the highest DPS nuke in the game with that combo.
>>539708351>SilkswarmSilkstorm, I mean.
Very important pollhttps://poal.me/cf19zh>https://poal.me/cf19zhhttps://poal.me/cf19zh>https://poal.me/cf19zh
>>539707384>use left and right directional buttons for crest switching on the fly>up is now "use">down now opens quick map>allow players to choose between directional buttons and stick for movement to compensate>since the quick map button is now free, L1+face buttons is now used to activate spells/tools, L1+triangle for top spell, L1+Square for middle spell, L1+X for lower spell instead of the garbage ass directional inputs
>>539708534I literally don't remember any of them
>>539708832Come on dude, surely you remember Bellhart, or the Citadel's main theme, or Lost Lace.
>>539708983i remember that lace is sexy. i kind of zoned out after that
>>539708832Your mistake for not wearing headphones
>>539709048>Anon sees Lace >get so horny he goes into a fugue state and retains zero information about the gamebased honestly
>>539708534Cogwork core had the best one that I can remember wanting to listen too. Bilewater had a really good ost but I hated being there every second.
where do i go next after getting the clawline?
>>539710165Go left from the slab
I just finished Verdania and didn't fully explore the top right room. I believe it had a sign or statue that said something like "Our shrine will rise once the three fountains weep". I found one fountain and turned it on, but ended up finishing the area before I went back to look further.Was that just a vaguely worded hint on how to progress in Verdania? Or did I miss something in there?
There's no one as interesting as Pale Knight in the Silksong's character/lore roster
why is my max silk bar smaller than it was beforeat some point my max silk has been nerfed
>>539705002impregnating obviously
>>539710507get the cocoon
>>539709215Lace is unironically the only OST I've managed to remember. I really want to snug that not-bug.
>>539710437The Snail Shamans are more interesting than Pale King.
>>539710810They are cunts but nowhere nearly as important or cunty as the Pale King
>>539710875They are more important than PK considering they actually successfully saved a kingdom
>>539710552You will not like the kids
>>539710961no daughter of mine will become a rotten grass-hopper
Are we still discovering secrets and new stuff this far in?
>>539711092>this far inits been 2 weeks
>>539711092lol
You have 10 seconds to come up with the bug species you want to be reincarnated as in the sequel + the reason why.YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME HURRY UP.
>>539711092Sorta, people are still struggling on stuff like getting Pilby to Songclave. But its less secrets and more intricate details or interactions.
>>539711259I would want to be reincarnated as the stupid Ogre Faced Spider, whose eyes are so sensitive that their outer layers are burned by black by the sun every morning, then regenerating throughout the day so they can see at night.
>>539711037Pic is not related but based This things are fucking scary
>>539711259dragonfliesthey are predators to many insect species and are huge
>>539711259>BugFringed jumping spider. Just look at it.>Why?I want to fuck Hornet.
>>539711742>fuck you I'm a dragon(fly)
>>539711783>A Portia can pluck another spider's web with a virtually unlimited range of signals, either to lure the prey out into the open or calming the prey by monotonously repeating the same signal while the Portia walks slowly close enough to bite it. Such tactics enable Portia species to take web spiders, such as Holocnemus pluchei from 10% to 200% of a Portia′s sizeThats really fucking neat.
Lace is BUILT for scissoring with Hornet
>>539712007I wonder if they're going to retire to live in Pharloom or if they will go to a new kingdom.
>>539711259BOMBARDIER BEETLE. I am going to be spraying all of you guys with so much burning caustic chemical you don't EVEN KNOW.
>>539711259Moth >WhyBecause I fucking love moths and find moth women sexy
>>539711259Dung BeetleSo I can be friends with Dung Defender
>>539711259Silk moth.They're very cute.
>>539712006built for hornet rape
>>539712007>>539712073Ew yuritranny shit
I must be the dumbest cunt in history because I keep getting murdered by the dancing robots
>>539712490Go away, ACK
>>539712585Mantis lords trained you for this
>>539712490>NOOOOOO STOP ENJOYING CUTE BUGS FUCKINGDie mad about it lol
>>539712585Nigger, they literally tell you which way they will attack, and the tells are very easy to spot.
>>539712585at least you have accurately assessed the situation. i regret to inform you that you are dying to one of the easiest bosses in the entire game
>>539712657Are you actually this much of a cuck? Lmao
>>539712657erm... one of them isn't a bug. but yes, they are both cute
>>539712585idk how you beat the Last Judge yet are having problem with the yaoi bots, their attacks are the most telegraphed in the game, wtf is the problem here
>>539712706>>539712713I knowI have no trouble at all in the first two phases and can easily reach the third no hit but when they start going out of sync in the third phase it fucks me up sooner or later
>>539712585They dont have a shared healthbar so if you just focus on one they go down pretty quickly.>>539712783>if you enjoy two fictional characters' relationship you are a cuckoldMentally ill post>>539712793True but whats a good shorthand way to refer to Lace and Phantom? A construct?
>>539712249my thoughts exactly
>coming back to Savge Beastfly at the end of act 2 with poison cogflies and 3 needle upgradesHeehehehe
>doing coral tower>leave a little pink fish alive so I have a buffer of spawns>go to drill one of those swooping ant things>the pink fish comes out of nowhere and kills meYOU LITTLE FUCK I COULD HAVE ENDED YOU ANY MOMENT
>>539712974>shipfag retard saying anything about mentrally ill Ironic
>>539712073Neither, she's going to go back home to Hallownest.
>>539713142You did not beat savage beastfly, I just saw my 10yo brother defeat the beastfy with 0 neddle upgrade and only using meele attacks.
>>539713382I'm on my 3rd playthrough man
>>539712304Based moth bro. Literally how to not love these things?
>>539711259Pillbug. Pillbugs are cute and I call them rollypollies.
>>539712974>a good shorthandWife.
I hope the first DLC is focused entirely around Phantom. She can even host the godhome or whatever but she needs more screentime
>>539713620she's fucking dead bro, you murdered her
>>539712974Construct seems to convey what they are concisely
>>539713549Those aren't bugs, but crab-like things.
>>539713561Imagine the kids...
>>539713831*puts (you) in a chokehold and dunks (you) in the toilet*
I want to try witch but the questline seems excessively retarded to get it, plus it seems like it will cripple me.
>>539713831Isopods are crustaceans, but I wouldn't call them crab-like. They're pretty different. That's like calling scorpions spider-like just because they're both arachnids.
>>539713831Isnt Khan's whole kingdom crustaceans?
>>539713831bug is a term that encompasses all kinds of small invertebrates, not just insects.If the crab king of act 3 counts as a bug, pillbugs surely do as well
>>539713382These ipad children are built different. I was cracked at Halo as a little kid, but these kids are freaks.
I hate conch fliesI hate conch fliesI hate conch fliesI hate conch fliesI hate conch fliesI hate conch fliesI HATE THEM SO FUCKING MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>youtube dot com>boss name easy kill>expecting insane acrobatics>tacks and cogflies
>>539714465conceptualize not standing in the way of their attacks
I think my problem in this game is I'm trying to be too aggressive where many enemies seem to be designed to be tackled patiently and with a plan
>>539714606ok buddy. try this easy kill on for size then, faggothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82pjW6Odf2M
>>539714606https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rw4pHkHqaVc
>>539713931It is literally just "talk to one guy and bring him an item".
>>539714606>Search for easy kill>Gets shown ways to cheese themColour me surprised.
>>539714629THE THREE OF THEM IN CORAL TOWER CAN CONCEPTUALIZE EATING MY FUCKING COCK
Is it really okay to save Pharloom when it's clear its people engage in extremely horrific shit even without the influence of GMS?
>>539714864There needs to be a "leave and let it to rot" ending.
>>539714720>>539714723Nigga how??? How do you know I'm stuck on 'Lita?>>539714771Not so cheesy.
>>539714864The Weavers are dead and the citadel is a decrepit husk, saving Pharloom means moving on from their theocratic nightmare. This is literally the culmination of Sherma's development.
>>539714864People practically have no choice but to engage in extremely horrific shit due to the system, stupid.
>>539714996i'm in your walls
I love my aquarium and I would never ever ever ever ever ever brutally slaughter them with my drill needle.
>>539594668Yuri gameYuri generalLesbian communityFeminist devs
>>539715428Kill yourself
539715428You will never be a woman
>>539715548>>539715606I ship this incel couple
>>539713951Insects turned out to be more closely related to crustaceans than previously thought. To the point where biologists are either going to have to categorize insects AS crustaceans or re-define "crustacean" to exclude insects and some fringe microscopic dudes that live on the beach.
>>539715428Keep yourself safe.
>>539715428they're more like sisters, but maybe that just makes it even better???
Beating Seth's record in dodge is FUCKING CANCER
>>539715428based>picgiwtwm (held)
>>539715720whole yuri mangas are built upon this premise anyon, so yeah~
>>539715690I ship your mouth with the barrel of a loaded gun.
Shipping=brainrot
>>539715782juggle was my filter desudw you'll get lucky eventually
>jacking off to characters fucking means you are a shipperMindbroken website
I mean... The entirety of Silksong is about women and femininity; it's a theme repeated all over the game. Mothers, daughters, sisters, flowers imaginaire, lovers, GAY lovers even for the fujos. It's all yuri coded as fuck.If you aren't into it, be ready, because as people and artists finish the game the art will multiply exponentially each week.
>>539716247You are the one mentally ill if it hurts you this much
>>539716374That won't stop me from hating trannies and faggots (forma de women)
>AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOO CUTE BUGS CANT FUCKlol
>539716374>posts dogshit art and adds retarded text on topSo sad to see
yuri and yaoi game desu
well yurifag is mad again same as always in every thread on every board
I was only into yuri as a teen because I was closeted and afraid of seeing a penis
>>539716719poor guy has everything agaisn't him. The second feminist gayming youtubers smell the themes of Silksong the videos will come on bringing yuri fans together even harder. pixiv already started
>>539716718Does Silksong even have heterosexual porn
>>539717173Nta but are you actually retarded or illiterate?
>>539715062OK then explain to me how is this boss able to block a half of my attacks
>>539717173lmao you are actually this mad that cannot understand when people are talking about (you)? pay less attention to what people say and you might just start talking to yourself at some point like other people here do
>>539717173not any of the anons you were talking to, and i don't have any issue with yuri as a concept... but it's weird to make it a feminist thing. if yaoi is predominantly for women because they like seeing dudes.... who do you think yuri is made for? think on it
>There's a quest where Hornet gets an abortionYeah its a woke game
>>539717620uhhh ok let me see. yep. uh huh. yeah. i see how you're doing it, very interesting strategymy conclusion: you're dogshit
>>539717735yuri is made for cucks and trans persons simple as
>mentally ill is shipping hornet with a literal kid, body and soul>a ship so abhorrent fucking plebbit is hating it
I mean take one look at the devs like gibson and tell me there's a shred of straight masculinity in that whole team. It would be more shocking if there were any male characters at all that are capable or confident in their abilities in general.
>>539716718kratt x grindle
>Lace's VA was one of the earliest Hollow Knight fanartists>She draws yuriOH NO NO NO NO NO
>>539717924>Made the golem a niggerLMAO
>>539717924Have you considered enjoying things?
>>539717978but they are both referred to as childhornet even corrects people when they call her a child, but they continue to do so regardless
>>539718270And yet Lace is the one created with a mind of a child while Hornet is very mature
>>539717924>tumblrlol... shes niggeranyway, i don't really feel like doing this with you, sorry. it feels like every thread these days has to have some resident anon who is ludicrously passionate about a very specific thing that doesn't matter at all. you can keep duking it out with the yuritranny or whatever you call him, i want no part in this farce
>>539718013How someone can be so retarded to even bring this up?
>>539718389ESLchan...
>>539718389see you in the trenches
>>539718013This is the depth of yurifaggot overreaching you can typically see on /a/
>>539718383>created with a mind of a childSure doesn't act like one. Has team cherry ever seen a kid?
>>539718270>4000 year old loli on 4000 year old loliWhat were they thinking
>>539718384>tumblr>lol... shes niggeryeah and water is wet>all this text ...who asked? go do whatever you want its not reddit
>>539718525>impulsive obnoxious twatNo, they captured it quite wellLace is the worst thing about the story narratively, it's like someone took your typical metroidvania archenemy (Dracula, Eviterno, Eigong) and make them insufferable.
>Fighting Lace 3>Reach Phase 3>Get pranked by giant fucking spike walls coming out of the floorThis fight is really gay.
loli hornet is CUTEdo this means that her mask is part of herself? Do we know how hornet looks under it? Lace is maskless, right?
>>539718590oh i will. i just wanted to politely inform you :^)
>>539718675>impulsive obnoxious twatYou're describing the average woman
>>539718479>>539718513>Picking up straws like a retard My point still stands
>>539718683bro your jump button?
>>539718683Have you tried not standing on the void tentacles
>>539718694I will not politely kiss you
>>539717997Bro, your Garmond?
Hornet will not be getting with Lace because Lace is already my lawfully wedded wife. Sorry, them's the breaks.
>>539718958what the heck man. you already knew i had a thing for lace then you turn around and do this???
>>539718958Her dad was a swinger and her moms were okay with it, she's mating with everyone.
>>539717997ahem
>>539717997i bet you feel dumb as shit right now
>>539719304>no npcs as fun as Zoteowari da
it's kinda hard to go back to Hollow Knight; Silksong is just... too fucking beautiful man.
>>539719671Sherma mogs Zote
>>539719672I found silksong significantly less aesthetically pleasing than hk despite more varied color palette on paperNothing in silksong can beat city of tears
>>539719740Sherma is such a kindly lad. We should all aspire to be so saintly.
>>539719304Note as cute as Sherma and also a dream form of Zote doesn't count
>>539714720>>539714723>manually parrying the boomerangs gives you enough i-frames for them to pass through you without damageI'm dumb as fuck for not thinking to try that. Still beat her, but damn I hated that attack
I think Zotefans should give it up. Lace will be the next protagonist of the game. The setup is clear. The white roses say everything.
>>539719926Could sherma fix the citadel?
>>539719092>nuzzled by hornetcozy..>>539719671grindle! shameless little creep!
>>539720157Nobody is fixing the Citadel, architects are dead so the place will fall into ruin (and thats a good thing)Sherma will help lead the people to a kinder society.
>>539720108That would be a fucking grim fate because they are too similar mechanically
>>539717903Dogshit bossfight, just like the most of the game desu
>>539720586>Lace has a Lost Lace devil trigger with void attacksThere are easy ways to differentiate them. But I think Lace being an alternate character for Silksong is possible just based on the "Hero Voice" setting.
>>539720752>giving that donut void skills>wasting any time on her at all instead of making a new game with a new protagonist or even just giving actual Hollow Knight his time to shineFucking revolting
>>539720752I mean, man... C'MON, both their swords end up together in the title screen. Either Lace will be playable or she is the next main character in HK3. There is no other character in the whole series with a journey to follow. This or dual protagonists. Hornet has been looking for love and gave her entire life; now she has an equal immortal girlfriend to live with. poetryitrhymeslucas.rmvb
>>539720963Buddy I am sorry to upset you but they already confirmed they have "ambitious plans" for Silksong dlc. You arent getting a new game for like 5+ years for sure.
>Lace showing up AT ALL in future content?Pretty fucking likely, I would be surprised if she didn't.>Lace being playable?I'm not so sure about this. To what end? For what purpose? What would the player be doing as her? I'm not saying that it's impossible, but it seems like Lace's story could be expanded and properly concluded without having her be playable.
>>539721107>For what purpose?Alternate characters are fun and add replay value, the Castlevania games are really good about this. It doesnt even have to be a "real" story, just give her some goofy abilities and send her into the game, maybe throw in a Hornet boss fight and a bad end or something.
>>539718958>Lace is already my lawfully wedded wife.You a spider or something?
I fucking called it from the start that Lace will produce the most obnoxious fanbase in the series
>>539721107she is been a prisoner her whole existence, she now can travel, adventure and find her own voice. The GODDAMN name of the game is about silk, and her whole is made of it. She is a being of pure magic making her unique to every other bug. There is a shitload of stuff they can do with her. Most important, she is completely different personality wise from the blank knight and stoic hornet. I fucking bet they are excited to finally have a character to play with in their world.
>>539721320Wasn't Hornet initially planned to be as simple as alternate character with no additional story? Although knowing team cherry I'm sure there'd have been unique interactions and dialogue.
>>539718687>do this means that her mask is part of herself?Yes, same thing with the vessels, as well as many other regular bugs.>Lace is maskless, right?Yes. But Lace isn't even a real bug.
>>539721558it is quite clear that anti-Lace niggers are the worst, it's like they have no imagination nor fun, Lace enjoyers vary wildly, but Lace haters are all shit
>>539721630Yes, they changed it partially because Hornet is too fucking big for Hallownest's environment.
This whole game is about women in all sorts of roles and situations, yet some here still believe that it should be X moving forward because it's "manly" or "badass". This isn't that kind of game, it actually never was now with the perspective Silksong brings to the table. The story now following a young woman being free of the shackles of her abusive mother is LITERALLY what women write about in their blogs and diaries since fucking forever. That is where this is all going.
>>539722169Hornet had several mothers but none of them were abusive
>>539717978>literal kid, body and soulyou got any evidence at all to back this?
>>539722365This was about Lace anon, and why she is the most likely to be wearing the mantle in HK3. Silksong is her origin story.
>>539722365Her fatassed Grand Mother was though
>>539722103I saw no lace haters
>>539719092she's gathering mates for the Ghost, just like her parents
>>539721630https://www.teamcherry.com.au/blog/happy-hollowmasOn that note, you think we'll see these guys in future DLC, or are they consigned to the cutting room floor?
I want to see Pure Vessel alive and un-possessed
>>539722616Sharpe is a backer reward character iirc so very likely he just got reworked for dlc. City of Steel could be a teaser.
>>539722169and I fully believe the next game is gonna be with Lace, still with her haughty, bratty attitude, but trying her best to selflessly help others as she visits other kingdoms in her newfound freedomsomething something appearances deceive, something something how you help matters a lot
>>539721559How would Lace's hp mechanics work? She is made of silk and thus presumably needs silk to heal and yet probably can't produce her own silk (unless she can? i guess she did have a silk heart idk)
>>539722757tfw no robot bug wife
Took a break, watched a movie, came back and nuked these gay ass bots
>>539722169>>539722521Gross
hornet x sherma is FUCKING HOT
braindead shotafag
>>539718945Anon...>>539723730Shut up homo
I think I like the Lace 2 fight more than the Lace 3 fight. Lace 2 gives you enough freedom for it to still feel like a dance, whereas Lace 3 restricts what you're allowed to do in response to her moves so hard if feels more like cheap Simon's Says. I lock in, I study the moves, and I stop letting my instincts take over, and I win, but its more fun to be in the flow.
Bros why is Bilewater so /comfy/?
>>539724020Best song in the game
who is baking the bacon
>>539722809That depends, if they do the City of Steel, I think it will be Hollow or Ghost.
>>539724109i was actually about to toss a pork loin in the crock pot
What's the fucking trick to the big coral guys that summon spikes with their attacks? I fucking HATE THEM SO MUCH
>>539722523wait that means Lace is her aunt
>>539724718you mean the ones who summon spikes beneath you 100% of the time, and have a dusty trail telegraphing the attack is coming from underground?
>>539724718the big spherical guys? pogo them. just watch out for the telegraph of their jump. when they're about to jump up, move out of the way. by the way, you can pogo off of their coral spikes.
>>539724718If you're talking about the big fat guys in coral tower, envision flea bounce. Bounce on their heads till they die or they absolutely force you to move. You should barely touch the ground.
>>539724718they're quite easy, they only have 3 movesthe first is a charge, the spikes appear next to them after they bump into the wall, as long as you are horizontal to them they'll do thisthe second is a foot smash, where the spikes appear from below you, this one happens when you're on the ground and like half the room away from themand the third is a jump where spikes appear on both sides after they fall, this happens usually when you're aboveI just pogo once, move back midair, and go back to pogo, this gives enough delay to see if they're gonna jump, which is the only attack that can threaten you midair
>See Lord of Shades in the endingSo if Embrace the Void is canon, what's The Hollow Knight currently doing rn? He gets to live.
The Bilewater boss is making me wanna kill myself, gauntlet + boss? Sure. Gauntlet + boss + bong water? I can do it I guess. Gauntlet + boss + bong water + having to do the entire area all over with multiple points where you can eat shit and explode (that also has bong water)? LET ME OUT.
>>539726560If you sit in the corner of the bong water, he basically is physically incapable of touching you. Take a dunk in the shit water, summon cogflies, and wait. You now only have to look out for like 1-2 attacks that only happen rarely. Also protip: If you summon the flies before he spawns in, they will attack him while he yells and paralyzes you.
new bread when?
whats the requirement for the act 3 again? i got all fleas and all wishboard quests apparently done
>>539726339Trying to find the Pale King probablyIt's made clear he disappeared, but not because he died
>>539728152hornet mating dance
HK 3 should have a male player character. To shake things up.
>>539728152Every wishboard quest. Note: you have to do some seemingly-unrelated shit in Bellhart to make the wishboard progression happen, like doing at least one delivery mission to Bone Bottom and donating at least one relic.The wishboards also can't be fully beaten unless you progress a bunch of seemingly-unrelated NPC quests like Shakra's, who will eventually throw wishes on the board if you keep doing their stuff.You don't need every flea but you do need to get at least 22 of them, and find pale lake in Putrid Ducts, so they actually move to Putrid Ducts.
>>539664396based
>>539728657ZOTESONG
>>539728635>Gets naked and jukes back and forth to try and get past you>If you're fast and strong enough to successfully predict and tackle her you get to breed her>If she makes it past you you miss your chance and she runs offNature is beautiful.
I hate how none of the fan art that draws Hornet as a human has the courage to draw her as she is in canon, naked under the cloak.
>>539729495The three most important things you have to keep in mind before you are allowed to draw human Hornet. 1. Hornet (and Lace) look way younger than they actually are.2. Naked besides the cloak3. White.
I find myself addicted to the engineer crest only because the charge strike will one shot most mobs in coral tower but I can't stand the rest of the kit and charging takes SO FUCKING LONG
>>539729673I will only accept obsidian black or porcelain white.
You aren't gonna play as Lace next game, you are gonna play as Hornet amd Lace's son.
>>539730537Freud wins again..
>>539728152>>539728695I triggered the quest with like 75% of the fleas discovered (or enough to move them to Fleatopia) and at the very least the Second Sentinel's quest still not taken, though I think I had already woken it up. I also got it right after completing Shakra's quest, minus the optional boss fight.
>>539730537>Lace is actually a boy
Can you still get the parasite in act 3?
>>539732151Yes
>>539732151Yeah it's miserable though.
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>>539704476>I would love for there to be a NG+ mode where every crest is unlocked from the startThat'd be cool. I like witch as well; it's kinda comfortable. Never used shaman, but wanderer, witch, and beast are my thing. Reaper is too slow for me, and I don't bother with arch since I don't use red tools.
>>539678315She's a girl after all