POCHIE THURSDAY!troondle ACK!-ed>a VERY important linkhttps://catbox.moe/c/f2o09z>Recent NewsPOCHIE STAFF HIT BY C&D BUT SERVERS NOT GOING DOWN.EPOCH STORE OPENED, Buy mounts and cosmeticsBlizzard files a criminal RICO case against TurtleWoW, Shenna and her entire teamKezan and Menethil mergedAscension crew is effectively in charge of the server. Old epog staff fled like rats from a sinking ship due to C&D.Dutch promises both Guru & Kezan will continue running and a new dev team will work on both servers.Changelog finally returns, new fixes coming up.Free faction change to alliance now in Orgrimmar, 5% xp bonus for allies coming up.Log in using your old Epoch account details on the Ascension website.>https://ascension.gg/>What is Project Epoch?A World of Warcraft Vanilla+ Private Server featuring TBC talent trees and tasteful custom content.>1500+ New quests>2000+ New creatures>2000+ New bugs>2000+ New items>...and MORE!!>Guilds (mostly dead)<DESU> Gurubashi Alliance<Racial Knowledge> Kezan>Previous Thread>>539360861
Hello? Is this thing on? Am I all alone?
>>539485150based slopper came in clutch with the new OP
im going to bed lads. save some xp for my explorer ass will ya.
Anyone seen players with the Runeblade? I got one last night and haven't seen anyone else with one. Saw two with Blackblade from UBRS though.
>>539486106runeblade was rarer than the others by a factor of 10 i think, well if the drop rate is the same as classic
Weapon skill is so gay, can they do a hashtag somechungus and remove it?
how do we do, fellow *CROAK*
anyone here play moonkin? i heard it was actually strong with the buffs they gave it and scaled giga well
Can you level weapon skill on the training dummies in the cities?
>>539486864Oh yeah? It scaled giga well, did it?
>>539487079last week you couldn't give it a try maybe something broke and it'll work.
>>539486864last I checked all hybrids were garbage, the only thing this classic+ made was warriors and warlocks stronger
>>539487353i heard treants were op and the haste talent lowers their gcd on wrath so its actually a 1 second castanyone actually try it? or am i being tricked,,,
KEK eflop
SOVL
we were just fighting in thrall's room so hard gurubashi crashed
>>539489053shard
epoop
>>539489053>11How?!
>>539489053Your picture is cringe and gay, this is what TRVE SOVL looks like.
>>539489423I wonder who at Blizzard thought it was good design to not have soul shards stack, lmfao.
>>539489397bbc pilled
>>539489589I wonder who at Blizzard thought it was good design to have soul shards.
>>539486864for the faerie fire alone they will have a spot in the raid as it allows optimized itemization from phys dpsworthless to debate here, you will find out when the raids are out just how broken boomie is
>>539489589if they would stack ad infinitum there would be no need to have soul shards in the first place
>>539489053i remember doing this before a raid once and then actually running out of shards because fucking lazy niggers in my guild holy shit i hate them
>>539489423>super duper hardcore raider circa 2007ish>189glol
>>539490106Literally every other reagent in the game stacks.
>>539489423This nigga lookin' ZESTY, this nigga lookin' MOIST, he's got sugar in his tank, he's light on his feet, he's a Ill bit fruity, he plays for the other team, he dances at the other end of the ballroom, this nigga theatrical, this nigga good with colors, this nigga gonna coordinate yo curtains wit you cushions and that shit gonna look good! This nigga lifts shirts, this nigga on the down low, this nigga be a tollet trader, this nigga gardens uphill, this nigga packs fudge, he's a friend of Dorothy, he feels the love that dare not speak Its name, he loves to dance, he's of the Uranian brotherhood, he indulges in the French vice, he has an antipathic sexual Instinct, he's fluent in Polari, he's a refugee from Sodom, he's on the wrong bus, he bats for the other team, he's temperamental, he's 'one of if you catch my drift.
>>539490119oops meant >>539489423
>>539490189>hoarding digital currency is good actually>gold is for staring at and quitting the game with
>>539489769I like soul shard, but there should be more to the mechanic. Like combining soul shards, giving soul shards to your demons for some interactions, getting special soul shards from certain mobs, or having to assemble a certain soul from soul shards you get from specific mobs
>>539490713Nah, you want to turn into a big gay purple demon and then arbitrarily lose half of your abilities between expansions.
>>539490713>I like the idea of soul shardsSo do I. But their implementation on WoW has always been shit.
I feel like soul shards and quivers were intended by the og devs as an inventory tax for playing a braindead pet class.
>>539491176which it obviously is and even a brainlet understands that arrows/shards is exchanging longer up time for more grinding for less inventory slots to collect loot
>>539491176Not really, they are a relic from the old times when they were trying to make a RPG with massive, multiplayer and online components.
>>539491176you really only feel it on hunter because of ammo bags, with locks it's whatever, you can use regular bags too.
well unlike in twow, the dungeons here are absurdly overbuffed and in the dumbest way possible. These so called “new mechanics” - nobody asked for them, nobody wants them, and what’s it gonna be like in raids? People are just gonna quit. Normal grown adults just wanna chill in a game, not deal with this fucking bullshit
>>539491279You might carry one or two shards max when you're farming, my clueless friend.
>>539491703git gud desu
>>539491703mediocre ai post
>>539491703they are really not that hard, having a mechanic or two is fine. Only BH seems overtuned
>>539491703I like increased difficulty but you're probably spot on with the "dumbest way possible" part. From the datamined MC spells every boss will have 1 or 2 "move out of the fire or die" telegraphed mechanics which will completely shit (even more) on the class balance. GL playing casters.
>>539492532you're right, difficulty should only come in the form of pure mathed out stat checks
>>539492532Any mechanic that involves moving benefits pet classes more, like compare how different maggy parses with constant bouncing arouns bs was compared to gruul (pire t&s)
>shitskin shaman crying in wsg because i refused to carry him to a win and i feign death'd with the flag after no one bothered to help me
>>539493087sounds like you threw a shitfit tantrum like some petulant third world nigger to me
>>539493087kezan alliance? this guy made a comment a bit ago. hes horde
ohnonono he's remembered as a retard now
>>539491703Step out of the aoe lil timmy
>>539487687Ret is good but not a top pickEnhancement is very goodWarriors are only good because you faggots keep enabling them so they outgear the competition and even still get dumpstered by casters and/or paladins/shamans that aren't glue eaters
>>539493087>shamanall i need to see to know that you were in the right and he was in the wrong, king
>>539493485>Ret is good but not a top pickIt's unironically worse than standard TBC ret
>>539493282yes but it wasnt that guy, was a shaman though.Could tell he was a shitskin from the way he typedliterally did nothing all game, and threw a tantrum because i instinctively FD'd while flag carrying and 5 people were on me, and no one else bothered to even ATTEMPT to help meCouldve been an easy win, but i aint giving some shitskin the satisfaction, just afk'd as a ghost while he had his little sperg melty, and i just replied with "simmer down little jew boy"
>>539493661>anons have absolutely no problem just outing themselves like thatI'm not even a "muh seal twisting super tech makes ret numbah 1" retard and even I know you're bad and full of shit, anon.
what are you playing in bbc lads?
>>539493873>I'm not even a "muh seal twisting super tech makes ret numbah 1">anons have absolutely no problem just outing themselves like thatIt's worse than TBC ret.
>>539494102>Is genuinely viable if middling>"it's worse than in the expansion where it continued to be a meme for the 4th year running"Like I said anon, it's okay to be wrong, just keep it to yourself.
>>539494048The uninstall wizard
>bugfixes slowing down>no changelog todayepoch is officially on life support rn. you are delusional if u think they will actually make new content for this shit. they might release some broken ass raids in the next few months and prolly shut this shit down when even the coomers stop buying tmogs
>>539494878they're focusing on the BBC
>>539494878what a fucking disaster this was, marketing really is everythingyou can fuck up everything about the actual product, but as long as your first impression on someone is a fancy movie and website that gets someone's imagination going, they will ignore baldfaced reality after the fact forever after and find as many excuses as possible to rationalize the failure.
>>539494259>forced to use a seal that doesn't scale of crit, doesn't proc vengeance, doesn't give mana back, and a judgement that uses fucking spell critThe only thing ret is better at here is cleave and aoe, our single target got massacred
>>539494878>>539495478buenos dias senor
>>539495721>buenos dias senorthats nice pochie pablo, but try speaking english in this thread
>>539495719You know you can just (and matter of fact, should) racial yourself to Undead to get Seal of not|Blood, instead of larping with Dedication, right? I'm gonna repeat it again, it's okay to be wrong, just keep it to yourself.
>>539497503Oh you mean the seal that got nerfed? Yes that's what I've been saying, ret single target is nerfed here.
Favorite warrior race? looks, animation, meme status all factors
>>539497659>Is still 35% weapon damage and 10% self-damage just like Blood>Got nerfed it's okay to be wrong, just keep it to yourself.
>>539497810human warrior with full 0.5 and arcanite reaper
>>539497948>doesn't proc on SoC anymorestupid fucking retard
>>539497810nelf females have some of the coolest 2h animations in the game
>>539498019It does and twisting is still the objectively correct way to minmax ST, I'm sorry your ping is too bad/your swingtimer is not properly configured to let you do that.That said, genuine standard SoV play is still viable and functional and actually itemized for, so maybe try that. Doesn't change the overarching fact - Ret is good if not exceptional, it's viable, and you're a shitter, anon-kun.
>>539498464It literally doesn't proc on SoC, you're supposed to get 1 SoC proc and 2 (TWO) SoB procs on the same auto. Eredumb himself said he disabled this (again, standard TBC ret interaction) because it outperformed his meme spellpower rework
>>539491703Wdym? All the leveling dungeons I've done have been fine. Only time I saw people die was to Mr. Smite in Deadmines, but that's just because idiots wouldn't move.
*laughs in prot pally*
>>539492469>Only BH seems overtunednot anymore, they nerfed the final boss and the demon trash
>>539491703Most of the mechanics have been fine.The really egregious ones have been Phalanx and Magmus in BRD with their stompsDrakkisath is also annoying because someone thought requiring three players with Seals in one 5man group was good design.
>>539499000I'll take it at face value and confirm when I'm off work, just to give you the benefit of the doubt - no one stays this retarded for this long unless they're brown or genuinely convicted. It doesn't change the fact it's still the objectively correct way.>(again, standard TBC ret interaction)also please don't delude yourself into thinking something blizzard themselves called unintentional during TBC and an artifact of bad internet is a "standard interaction" because we memed it into becoming one.>That said, genuine standard SoV play is still viable and functional and actually itemized for, so maybe try that. Doesn't change the overarching fact - Ret is good if not exceptional, it's viable, and you're a shitter, anon-kun.
>>539499669>The really egregious ones have been Phalanx and Magmus in BRD with their stompsyep, only the non stop stomps are "absurd". still doable because they are stunnable bosses now.>Drakkisath is also annoying because someone thought requiring three players with Seals in one 5man group was good designI don't think this is that bad of an issue.
>>539491703all you had to do to make your post a genuine discussion was not mention twow, literally.+5 rubles and half a shenna foot pic have been credited to you for the post.
>>539499942I haven't even ran LBRS yet, is getting the runestones still obnoxious like on normal Classic or are they at least shared/100%?
>>539500534they're shared
>>539500534get the questshared100% drop
>got hit by the Ramstein oneshot combo three times in a row as the healerDid they test this shit at all?
>>539503013What does he do exactly, I didn't get it? Just saw that he hooks a ranged sometimes
>>539503013>he doesn't know where to standlmao.
>>539503469He can do the stomp immediately after pulling you in and kill you before you even land. He can also hit you with the stun first to make sure you're extra dead.
>>539503340>read the quest
is epoc 1x? i feel like its 2x rate
>>539504054it definitely seems high, the explorer 50% xp feels more vanilla (and comfy)
>>539504503explorer's definitely isn't vanilla, i played a solo server with a 50% xp mod and it feels much closer to explorer's. you just don't notice it because of all the other quests. like on my solo server, i had to grind mobs on my dwarf/gnome because those quests are level gated in a really retarded way, you have no quests to get you over the hump to level 4.
viper sting is fun, completely rapes and gapes any cast-cuck
KezACK
>>539501670>>539502404Oh thank God I was dreading it
You have been disconnected from the server.
epochsissies... i guess we should just go roll on ambershire...
>>539505196>i played a solo server with a 50% xp modWhat is wrong with you people? I already cant understand contractor cucks but a solo server WITH a negative xp mod? Why?
>>539506710if you want a bug free server with actual content and raiding
>>539506767video game fun. more game more gooder.
>>539506767Autism likely. If I wanted to play a single player open world game personally I'd be playing something like Kenshi or Morrowind
>>539507047Leveling for the millionth time isnt fun thoughbeitever
>>539504054it's 3.3.5 1x rates. not 1.12 1x rates.
>>539507243
>>539507572Damn, the overhauls for Cyberpunk 2077 are fucking crazy these days.
>>539507616kek
server down?
>>539497810nelf males have some of the coolest animations in the game. shadowmeld+charge is boner inducing.trolls are also great, in combat regen and berserking are amazing warr talents, plus the beast damage
>>539505196i agree 50% is NOT like vanilla, like i'd assume 65% or something would feel close. not current 1x though.
>>539508052not guru
>>539497810undead female with one handers do sick front flips with heroic strike and eviscerate
>>539508382nah they're gay and also all the gaylords flocked to femdead, last time femdead were cool were 2017, now femdeads are all pickme faggots
I am going to unironically play Monsters and Memories and try to get my friends to check it out too once the WoW autism abates. I hope the old roadmap content comes out before then, I'd like to stick with this server more than a couple of months.
>>539508670isn't it still in alpha? i just don't see a point investing a significant amount of time in it yet when no progress is saved.
>>539508123in tbc they changed 1-60 to be 1.3x and this is wotlk so probably the same
>>539509340It's supposed to go into EA sometime next year.
>>539510051kewl i'll definitely give it a shot then. i really like that style of EQ gameplay but there's no version available that really hits all the right notes for me. i've always wanted something in the spirit of P99 but just with some basic QOL stuff instead of autistically trying to replicate every single flaw of the original game. Erenshor is also getting a pretty big update this month, so that'll be neat.
>>539508670I'd play it if the entire UI wasn't enshittified just because "thems how it were in the good ol days"
>>539510795>>539510704Yeah god willing it won't just be a whole cloth clone of EQ but still retaining that spirit of old school MMOs.
>>539510795I feel the same way. It looks like shit just for the sake of looking like shit. Love the desert theme though.
>>539512626I think the desert area is just one region, it is a cool starter area though. Not many MMOs start you off in the desert.
>Doing escort quest>Two ally rogues wait for me and the guy I was helping right at the end of the escort path>We kill them but they kill the escort firstKinda weird but ok. They weren't in it to win, just to grief>Doing elite spot with the same person>Group of ally hunters show up and kill my buddy as he's engaging elites>I run away with a switfness potion knowing I'm likely fucked if I stay>They chase me>Alright fine, last stand>Bros have no idea how to play and I trash them 2v1Fucked up how huntards think they just win by default through the virtue of being a huntard. These dwarves were straight up backpedalling lmfao
>>539512872cool story bro
>>539513380thanks anon I appreciate that
>>539510051>this everquest ape for boomerbux is SUPPOSED to go into EARLY ACCESS ... SOMETIME this yearfuck off
>make a polearm>call it a staffleast it looks cool. Seems like it wouldn't be terrible for a warrior?
>>539513558It's been locked in Q1 2026 for the better part of a year now and near as I can tell they've actually been developing it.
>>539513682warriors can't use spear-like polearms cause shoulders too big
>>539513824i don't fucking care anymore no MMO is real until it's lived for 6 months after official launch (and no, not an arbitrary premature "1.0" because people got sick of it being in EA for so long)
sooo... is explorers worth it?
>>539513682>"Naga" Pokerhehe
>>539513682it sells for a lot usually
>>539514843its just like turning your xp rate down, the rewards are negligible but cred is nice.
>>539515126well I guess the title is goat
>stacks of peacebloom are literally cheaper than vendor price on the AHwhat kind of dumb motherfuckers...?
>>539515730So buy it and sell it to the vendorProfit
They need to buff the drop rate on these troll necklace quests in stv
>>539516303blizzlike drop rates are good
>>539516303you need to heil hitler
Everyone kept saying Turtle WoW had 10k+ People on it at all times, but I logged on and it has the same amount (if not less) Than EpichWere the screenshots fake or what?
>>539518160lol... haha
>>539518160it was just some indian who keeps spamming the thread. turtle's ingame /who numbers aren't accurate anyway because they allow multiboxing. so they boast about concurrent players because they can't boast about unique IPs lol.
Is <DESU> dead?
>>539518160b-b-b-b-but it's late!! That's why there's no one on!!!
>>539518160Erm
>>539518160I can vouch that the old pve server was consistently hitting 8k leading up to their fresh launch.I haven't logged on since epoch dropped so no idea what the numbers have looked like over the last month.
>>539518160The screenshots were all from the launch day, epoch had over 10k players on launch as well, I play on Turtle a lot and it NEVER hits over 10k anymore, or even comes close.
>flawless sexy turtle land went from 10k to 3.7k>fly-buzzing ducttaped shitheap pochieparty went from 10k to 4k+wow, turtle sucks that much dog dick, huh?
>>539518160It's just some weirdo/shill who needs to pretend Epoch is dead while Turdle is thriving.
>>539518160I love these cope posts. What happened to epoch getting molten core, or dire maul?
>>539519306turns out there's no reason to play a server where paladins are the best single and aoe healers, single and aoe tanks, single and aoe dps
>>539519934It's weird how insanely OP they made paladins/shamans on twow, playing anything else just makes you pointless.
now that both troondle and epoch are dead, where are we playing, boys?
>>539520659bbcbut im playing both bbc and epoch doh
>>539520678This gonna try bbc and see if I like it if not I'll stick around Epoch for a while yet
oh nonono....
>>539520953The banan is rotting...
>>539520659Tauri, of course2 more weeks brehs
Another anon said you can get both the Gnome and Goblin specialties for Engineering without having to reset on Epoch, but I forgot to ask exactly how and I'm high enough to get them now. Epoch site is dead so where the fuck do I find this system?
>>539522439look it up on b4k before you kill the thread again
oh that is a BRUTAL cause of death.
>>539523997Already tried, only found a bunch of erp shit and a couple posts with no replies.
>>539524079the classic fuck blizz death
>>539524079Why was he AoEing in the houses tho?
>just saw a night elf with a bloodhoof clan totemCosmetic buff persisting through faction change?
>>539525337he might have just done a frost nova or something. Stalvan Mistmantle's house has Unseen in it.
>>539520953>broadcasting for an hour to find a groupliterally what's happening on GuruI mean look at it from an outside perspective:Epoch devs announced that they are shutting down what they can and took down the site and the discord. Meanwhile nigger Dutch doesnt promote Epoch in anyway, no mention of EPoch in the launcher or the Ascension site.How is a motherfucker supposed to find out Epoch even exists?
>>539493485Ret is insane because of seal twisting. I've seen retris leveling/clearing dungeons and the difference between a retri who knows how to SoR > SoC twist vs one who doesn't is like double the dps. I don't think they will ever become a top dps spec but they will one tap tanks in endgame pvp.>>539486864It's slightly better than vanilla TBC but mind you that's a low bar (balance was the weakest dps in TBC) Shamans will become average once they fix and nerf every mf who abuses rockbiter on mh procing wf swings from the offhand. That will literally cut their dps by 20-30%.Warriors are still the best melee spec even with very little to no changes in fury tree, they will take longer to become gods here because melee specs in general are gimped by increased armor tables on all mobs, so they will need more gear to have unlimited rage. Seething trannie like >>539493485 somehow argues that warriors "outgear" other specs as if they had some secret stash of MC gear lmao. They just scale better with gear. It's been like this since Vanilla all the way to MoP which is unironically when they also became unfun to raid with.
almost caught up to my bullshit death on Cunniform.
Where the FUCK is the spellpower plate?
>>539527461Don the dress
>>539527534No, I'm tanking. *casts Salv on you*
>>539527585so many bad paladins out there, they have 1 job, give me wisdom and they still manage to fuck that up most of the time
>>539527773Warlocks don't need Wisdom
>>539527585as a rogue im tempted to just drop group if a paladin salvs me
>>539528092Yeah enjoy pvpming when you rip aggro and die.
>>539527851I want to live and most tanks can't seem to stop warlocks from stealing threat.
I just saw johnvancleef and then the server died when I asked about his auntie.
Why does Kezan seem so much more unstable than Guru? You'd think the servers are hosted on the same type of hardware in close proximity towards another.
>>539528682this is when kaytotes likes to sip his latte and fuck with the server
>>539528824Honestly? I'd believe it. Fuck that faggot and his vibe coding.
>>539497810I'm UD male because I like them thematically but damn the 2h animations are some of the worst in the game
we are reaching levels of immaculate vibes that were once thought impossible
>>539528968They're 2h animations are fine, now Male Nelf 2h animations holy shit lol.
>get pala to 19, finally try out seal twisting>it fucking sucks and isn't really fun>reroll warriorThank god you can twist early enough so I didn't waste more levels
>>539529112>he couldnt figure out how to twist
>>539529112you only real twist in raid scenarios because of all the buffs/mana regen you have
>get war to 20, can finally get dual world>it fucking sucks and I can't hit anything>reroll palaThank god you get dw early enough so I didn't waste more levels.
>>539529076>right after server crashbased resident turdleshill
what's the best warlock 5man spec?
Seems like I missed a party
>>539530647summoning bitch
>>539485150>very important linkthanks for ruining my no nut streak
So is there still no news on a new dev team or anything? Are things still broken?
LFGbab here. How do I into manual party gathering?If someone looks for what I'm looking as well... what is the courteous way to whisper them?
>>539530647Whichever one allows you to be flexible with your pet.
>>539532783+
>join group as healer>no tank yet>30 min go by>everyone in party chatting and gathering at the stone>still no tank>another group advertising in LFG saying they only need a healerWhat's the play here? Do I just say goodbye and join that other group? We're all literally at the summoning stone so they would see me zoning in with that other group. Is this something that'd get me in trouble or are people generally understanding about things like this?
>>539532783>PVMPER HER INV FAST GOGOGOGOG
>>539532783theres a LFG addon that helps, it doesn't actually group you still have to manual it up.>>539533036right? just tell them good luck and fuck off.
when
>>539533036There is no "correct" play. You either value your own time more to the point of wasting other people's time or you're considerate enough to not bail and wait a bit longer.Either way I don't think anyone will hold a grudge if you politely leave.The problem are the niggers that leave without saying anything and that's like 99% of them.
anyone else playing warlock notice that curse of weakness can't be cast if corruption is active and get the error message about a more powerful spell already being on the target?
>>539534384i don't owe you an explanation faggot
>>539533036>>join group as healer>>no tank yetI never join a group that doesn't already have a tank, simple as.
Is it over?
yes
What's the point of rolling a boss minotaur tauren if I can't fuck humans and elves?
The more i play epoch the more i see that i prefer the woltk/mop gameplay style t.lvl 60 priest and paladin fag
>4chan's back just as I was about to generate slop
>>539532783I really hope you're just trying to be funnyIf you're not, I commend you for trying to learn to talk to people.
i enjoyed epog
>>539535802mop gameplay was goofy, like the tf2 of warcrafts
What level can you switch racials? just 60?
>there's a vendor selling a (1) item for 2400g that's probably a part of some secret quest shit>there's a quest to find someone "on the road from Ratchet to Felwood">there are lvl60 dailies for goblin rep that I havent seen a vendor forman, I have never seen a server with custom content that's so fucking cool and I played Turtle for quite a whileI'm so mad the devs couldnt pull through
How does shield block actually work? Is there some hidden calculation that the game doesn't bother to tell you about, or does this mean it subtracts 27 damage from the 500 damage the boss is a bout to lay on me?
>>539536631block value + (strength / 20) + 1 = damage you will block
>>539536631Yes, "block value" is how much is subtracted from a blocked melee attack after all the other mitigating factors.
>>539536631its in the hover-over tooltip in your strength stat. Shield block value + "Increases block value by" + talents and shit
>2 days since last changelog entryguess that is it
>>539537375is the discord even ascension'd or is this leftover kaytshit?
>>539537534I have to assume that if Gaytotes had control of the Discord he would have shut it down
>>539536615epoch has better custom content, turtle just has the quantity and it really ranges from dogshit to okay
Gurusisters?
>>539537534they removed the changelog from epoch's discord and never posted in it since gaytotes bailed. The server is very much in maintenance mode right now
>>539537662horde can already switch factions to alliance
>>539536930>>539536934>>539536992Thanks. It doesn't seem that impressive, but I guess it's significant over the course of an entire fight.
>>539537776>maintenance mode>there's an update in the launcher every single day
>>53951816014PM CESTTurtle's Ambershire: 5355Turtle's Nordanaar: 3977Turtle's Tel'Abim: 1068Epoch's Kezan: 2776Epoch's Gurubashi: 2280
>paladin epic quest boss can spawn 2-3-4 copies of itselfbravo gaytotes
>>539538945I wonder how many multiboxers are in turtle usually. I multiboxed a lot when I was playing there, and also seen plenty of retards leveling with their level 60 behind.
>>539538945I blame the dutch nigger
>>539538581>It doesn't seem that impressiveThen you're an idiot. Even in your example that's a ~7% damage reduction, which is a ~300 eHP increase on a 4k health pool or the equivalent of 28 sta + you can't receive a crit or glancing blow. Now there's much better shields and you can rice your block even higher, but you shouldn't increase it too much because there's diminishing returns on the chance. Just like armor, dodge, parry, resistances, health, defense, damage reduction etc, it is another factor that you have to layer to increase your eHP as a tank. Like you will hit diminishing returns on armor fairly fast and then you're barely getting anything from that in terms of damage reduction.
>>5395389452k on vanilla realm is enough tho?
test?
>>539539101don't forget that multiboxers park AFK alts under tents
>>539539528>2k on vanilla realm is enough tho?
>>539539528It's not the number of players that matters, it's the rate at which they're leaving
>>539538945>Epoch's Kezan: 2776>Epoch's Gurubashi: 2280
>>539539528>2k is enough tho>1k is what we wanted>500 is more than enough>200 is great, we're like family>100 is enough to raid>50 is the two raids keytotes envisioned>25 fills a raid, as long as nobody quits>w-we can try to kill some bosses with 15>g-guys, why I'm alone?
Warlock is a fucking meme, I don't care how good it is at 60 or w/e with optimal gear. Levelling you are a free kill to almost every class out there. I wish I'd rolled Hunter instead
>>539540915skill issue, get good
The real reason why epoch dying is that there is just not enough + custom content, no one wants to play this 20 year old game anymore except few autists who can't move on. People checked it out and realized that it's the same shit with few new things here and there.
>>539493485Dont listen to this retard ask deimos that was in my last party i was always top dps
>>539541181content isnt why people play multiplayer games, people who have friends are enjoying it.
>>539541161How is a hunter and its insane pet that's immune to all forms of CC while it chomps away 10% of your hp per hit a skill issue? Meanwhile your dots do fuck all damage and your only form of damage (drain soul) is going to immediately get interrupted or CC'd. fuck off
>>539541181What were they thinking when they added hundreds of hours worth of content to a game that you'll be the first and last to see in the first hours of play? And now that there is no information about all of their custom content (the site is down) it has really turned into just another classic server for no one knows who needs it.
>>539540915Maybe pre 44. Once you've got unstable affliction, death coil, and howl of terror you become a menace to anyone that's not pally or maybe huntard.
>>539541181Grey looks like THAT?
>>539541181The real reason is 90% of autists rushing to 60 so they can attain their raidlog status asap and then complain there's nothing to do when they've skipped everything.
>>539541263brown
>>539524079WTF is Unseen?
>>539542281they're high level mobs in darkshore houses that are invisible and neutral. if you deal aoe they will attack you
Tauri will save us
>>539541181players quitting is completely normal. epoch's problem is that there is no way for new players to find the server to even it out.
>>539542725jajaja, will buy 15 key?
how is the NA pop on guru?Will i be able to find a guild, preferably west coast times? That's historically been difficult on pservers so maybe i fucking suck.
>>539539197why? kaytotes left the server is a horrible state and ascension people are probably still in the assessing the damage phase
>>539543059dunno, theres a pretty big UK pop though
>>539540915>he fell for the afli meme
>>539543014thats stormforge, tauri isnt THAT spic infested
>>539541181Dutch needs to hire the person (or people) who did the Deadmines and Wailing Caverns modifications then kicked everyone else to the curb. The custom dungeons changes are easily the best shit in Epoch for me but they blow their load all over your face early and then all others dungeons seem to be unchanged.
>>539543357Oh, he will, you bet he will.
Not even trying to start shit but whats your honest opinion on bronzebeard at least on paper
>>539543532Home.
>>539541181I agree, people are bored with classic/vanilla and there really isn't enough meat on the bone to keep people invested. Now add in all the bugged content, the broken skills and classes/specs needing some serious balancing. This server needs about a year to just get it into working order.>>539542902Not having a website/discord/forums is really not helping epoch at all. Sure there is the ascension discord, but that's not really doing it any favors.
It sounded good until Mystic Enchantments
>>539543532>level scalinglol
>>539543532could be funit adds a shit ton of customization so it also could be completely broken but the novelty will keep me entertained for a whilemight jump ship if epoch continues like this
>>539541816Not everyone enjoys single player questing for the millionth time and the time between 60>MC is the most social period Vanilla WoW gets. After that, everyone clams up in their guilds or remains a shitter and quits. The new "content" simply isnt fun, especially having to do it all over again for the millionth time. Yeah, sure, the little changes here and there to the bosses is pretty cool but its still almost entirely the same exact thing.I enjoyed my time with the handful of people that were 60 and struggling through the new endgame dungeons. It reminded me of actual Vanilla WoW for a short time, actually socializing with my group, but the likelihood of the roadmap even being fully realized is very rocky.
>>539544863>single player questingWay to out yourself. There are a fuck ton of new quests with multiple new elite areas specifically made for groups. (eg. the blasted lands fort)
>>539545172>the blasted lands fortnta, don't know if they fixed it yet but when I did it two weeks ago it was the most miserable experience everthe elite mobs were really tightly packed on top respawning in less than 20s, you had to constantly be on the move and if you had a sperg in your group it was just game over because he would pull shit until you died
The onyxia revamp will at the very least be released since it was a beta available thing
>>539544375The very first thing you see on making any character is a person that can disable that feature.
>>539544863t. retard who skipped quests and rushed to 60 telling us there's no new content
>>539545561to be fair, there is almost no new content, lets be honest
Has anyone had a druid tank in a level 60 dungeon? Are they functional at all? From my experience, keeping aggro on more than one enemy is outright impossible.
>>539552290Because it is, dudu is the worst tank by a lot
>>539552290Dps shiters want to AOE hitting their heads on the keyboard unfortunately, only paladins can handle that retardation. God bless consecration
>>539549596There's more 1-60 content than there is on turdle.At 60 - there's no new RAID content, and only 1 new dungeon. But there's a shit ton of lvl60 quests.
>>539552290Worst tank in my experience.He gets hit for ALOT and needs bis +armor items to become viable.
>>539554082>But there's a shit ton of lvl60 questsidk when ppl imagine classic+ i think they want more dungeons and raids, i have a hard time thinking that there are people who are fiending for more slop fetch quests
>>539554231nah its fine, ppl just go into dungeons with druids that dont have tanking gear and wonder why he is dyingdruid without +armor in every slot or almost every is like a warrior tanking with 2h
did they nerf warlock pets? I came back after not playing for a bit and now my voidwalker almost dies after pulling one mob about the same lvl wtfleveling warlock is slower than my warrior with victory rush and wotlk hp5 regen
>>539555091Good. Fuck castniggers.
LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE LF STRAT LIVE
>>539555091>did they nerf warlock petseven after the nerf warlocks are #1 DPS with 900 dps
>>539540915its not better at 60. as sl/sl your damage is laughable, as affliction you are toast when a melee just looks at you. but hey you can "support" with unstable affliction and curse of tongues etc lmfao
>>539545384>onyxia "revamp">a new miniboss and onyxia gets another aoe abilitythe content patch that saved epoch
>>539555091maybe they fixed blueberry having wotlk taunt, wouldn't know as I only play with felchud
>>539555091this bootleg resilience doesnt work on pet so they still do way too much damage
>epoch on life support after showcasing the worst pserver launch in existence>turtle is shit and the client is clunky>azeorth at war never releasing>monsters and memories tries to emulate EQ, which is the one of the most outdated mmos, visuals and gameplay are clunky, and no sane non eq fan will play this>VVallcraft is made by 1 guy (?) so it will probably be managed worse than epoch during kaytotes reign>ffxiv is dead and gay to begin with>blizzard is dead and its corpse continues walking somehowI think its over for mmos
>>539557126>>539557475>>539558830I think I've not been clear enough, this is mostly about leveling and warlock feels like shti rn in that regard. my pets get graped by mobs of the same lvl
All my friends have now left epoch due to bugs, uncertain future/no roadmap or no content at lvl 60.I'm not sure what to do, I'm level 51 now and frankly that shit ruined my day.TurtleWoW is stuck on dogshit 1.12.1 client, I would still love to play some custom prot pala or balance druid.
>>539559043weird, locks like hunters should be the easiest class to level certainly a whole lot easier than warrior
>>539559006Yea but Wallcraft dev will let you call all the browns the niggers they are.
>>539559043you can type raped here lilzoomie, pet scales with your stats and you probably skipped the op pvp gear for some meme greens with naked shadow power or something
Me and my friends quit this buggy server for Turtle-WoW, it's has way more content and it's way more fun!
>>539559282it's a meme you dip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzgUGY36gqM
we are the only two people in the fucking area why the fuck do we need to be grouped up
>get to 40 as my pally finally>all the new plate I'm getting has a shit ton of stam/str >put that shit on obviously but lose all the spellpower bonuses I had>can just buy spellpower elixirs and wizard oil on the AHIt's nice when there are avenues to acquire stats like this, I forget sometimes that MMOs can have some depth to their itemization.
>>539560750Many people felt similarly.
So is Gelkis rep just worthless after you finish the quest chain? Was it just some ancient hold over of when the game was supposed to be super grindy like EQ?
So when is BBCBBQWITHABBW+ dropping? I wanna know the timetable for when we might start seeing communication from Dutch again once that's on its feet.
>>539560750>t.
daily j*ndice roll failed
>>539415632>Requesting onixya doing a shota blowbangNot quite a blowbang...https://catbox.moe/c/1ebph1#gallery-4
>48 Hours since the last bug fixNot looking good
>people in discord still talking about server pops and raid comps assuming its the same 40 man structure>they actually don't know it's 25/10 now
Looks like they fixed escort quests, no more waiting for a server restart to escort a chicken.
>>539564701I wonder if they fixed the caravan escort quest not giving credit to people in the party that accepted it through the pop-up and not from the quest giver directly.
UBRS is soulless with 5 people. Most of the changes are gay.
Does bronzebeard have any interesting new tank classes or is it just the same old 3?
>>539561339If you looking for prot gear haul your ass to uldaman
Oh guys, things aren’t looking so good here (unironically). Maybe bronzebeard won’t be that bad after all?
>>539567245I only just hit 41 so I think I'm a few levels off to comfortably do that.
>>539562070>super grindy>barely takes longer than other questsit is a hold over though, the alpha design had reps being more prominent and cross faction stuff
>>539568405No yeah I meant like the actual rep grind not the grind to get the quests. It feels like they decided to just throw some quests on the rep since they abandoned the idea. There's zero reason to grind above friendly unless you have some kind of crippling autism with reputation values.
Is fresh water delivery bugged? Says spell is not available to you when I try to use the quest itemIt worked a few weeks ago on my first character...
>>539567041shamans have tank skills
DUTCH PLEASE MAKE ENHANCE TANKING ACTUALLY REAL ON EPOCH NOW THAT KAYTOTES IS GONE
>>539568647they didnt abandon anything, its more like that they kept it in that one place only and abandoned the idea everywhere else
>>539569440What are you a fucking politician?>it didn't get abandoned it just got abandoned everywhere elseSo it got abandoned.
>>539489589Because each one is an individual soul, they are not the same item
>>539568647its actually a cool story line but choosing a side is a trap in a pvp server
>>539569637idk bro i just meant that the normal game design was that you had to rep grind to do questsits why mobs outside of ratchet give rep, cause by the old design you would need to grind them before you could do any goblin queststhe first iteration of undead was hostile to every other faction, had to grind it out, etc
>>539560750many are saying this
>tfw hit 60 and figured out i would rather play a casterback to elwyn forest
Warlock or MageIm genuinely having a hard time choosing I know warlock gets a free mount but makes can are farm instances
>>539571476idk both feel kinda weak during leveling on epoch (higher mob health) but at least lock gets super strong later on
It feels like we’ve been abandoned, doesn’t it? Kinda hard to enjoy playing here now, knowing that. Looks like Bronzebeard is going to get a lot more attention instead.
>>539571815would be nice if we got at least one new update since the one where dutch said they'll assemble a team, like, where are we headed now?
>>539571476i played mage once back in wrath and i liked it plenty but i have a type and it is a fat HP caster
>>539571476Both are kind of similar in terms of power curve through leveling, although warlock struggles a bite more early. But otherwise it's mostly a flavor choice: do you want to be a squishy caster with a bunch of tools to keep enemies away from or do you want to be a stand your ground caster with a pet to support?
>>539572625lock might be a fat hp caster but boy is it gone fast vs melee
>>539574227locks get a whole bag of tricks to keep melees off your ass but also still in killing range and fear isn't one of them delicate>pls dont autoattack my sleep targetdeals. you fear and then you lay on the hurt anyway.
>>539574452But makes are better farmers and passive money makers
>>539575245locks are still decent at aoe farm and the right summon is worth more than any portal if you're really into that sort of thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCvb8MwvsD4Will he return for epoch?
>>539575581That true,>auto correct keeps changing mages to makes
>>539571815Even if i prefer epoch because the mtx in other ascension servers ruins my immersion its only fair that they would favor their own "child" over epoch and its not like the latter is some runaway success that they can't afford to pigeonhole
>reroll to priest>have only buffed people>without asking I get water from mages>someone gave me legs with spirit on themI haven't even healed yet and the people already love me
>>539576312yeah everyone treats healers good, except hpalas cause people confuse them for the other tards
>find out they added bop weaps like in tbc for sword/axe/mace smithing>all are 1h only2h bros...
>>539577890You already got arcanite reaper brother
>>539577956its not epic and you can just buy it...
>>539578532>Not hand crafting your own Arcanite Reaper in the sweltering heat of the forgeShameful.
>>539578731or i could go armorsmith and just buy one
>>539578905Armorsmithing is for tanks, unless you're one of those 2h tanking autists.
Why does Glimmermurk have 85 dungeon quests for it? They really want you to check out their full custom content I guess.
>>539539101I'd guess 10% or less until most players finish content on their mains, assuming you're talking about Ambershire.>>539560750This but actually happened. If I knew the devs were so incompetent I wouldn't have bothered with Epoch in the first place.
>epoch updates channel has been deleteduhm guys?
>>539579295is that why I see constant begging for gmm groups?
>"LF TANK SCHOLO">apply>"sorry we already got a paladin"yet I can't get a single group as ret, hm....
>>539579347yeah it's on the main ascension discord but hasn't been updated in 2 days which is concerning since it got several updates a day usually
>>539579491forget about this server and wait for a juicy bbc like a good white boi
>>539579353Probably, shit ton of quest exp.
>>539579696>pve>cross-faction>level scalingno thanks>bUt yoU Can DiSabLe iTnot interested
If I was in a group with a guy who might have been multiboxing will I get banned if he gets caught?
>>539579975yes and gaytotes comes to your house to personally rape your tight ass
>>539579975I really doubt they check that. I don't remember Epoch's multiboxing rules, but assuming it's a full ban with no exceptions, bans should be automatic or nearly based on the player using the same IP.
>>539579975Abandoned server, no one gets banned anymore.
>>539580187Guess that's why they call him gaytotes.>>539580196Okay just wondering, makes sense theyd just check the IP.
>>539580196yeah there's a zero tolerance policy>>539580308no actually they do but only for saying nigger or faggot, meanwhile every trolling/griefing retard is free to do whatever he wants
>>539580308Some dude got nuked for botting yesterday
I'll play on epoch until they turn off the servs or I get bored and will go play other games. I don't care about concurrent servers, stop wasting your time trying to shill me.
>>539490189Black lotuses were 50 silver back then
Playing Epoch until it dies and I just jump to M&M or it somehow recovers and were in comfy golden vanilla+ land.
>can't level up my class because the only class trainer in this zone is female (i don't listen to women and women have nothing to teach me)this game is really hardcore sometimes
>>539564218>they actually dont know the server wont live long enough for the raids to open
>>539580890based do you also not take quests from women?
you'd have to buy a retard to buy stuff with real money on a server that got a C&D
>>539581061Buying a retard to be the middle man is pretty smart actually.
>>539581036i don't mind aiding the inferior sex as long as i'm well compensated
>Blacksmithing crafts BiS caster necklace on top of crafting all the previous cool shit like Arcanite Reaper>Tailoring gets ZERO new max skill recipiesfuck this gay server
>>539581393shut up you dresswearing gaylord
>>539581393Rolling JC into BSM is amazing yeah.
so apparently anyone can loot the forged seal of ascension off the ground while a group is doing the quest so we just had a faggot mage steal two of oursbetween this and the monkey helmet in STV I'm starting to feel that griefing quests is not only allowed but actively encouraged
>>539582119they literally don't care dude, but if you call the griefers faggots you better believe a janny will be there in 2 seconds flat you ban you
DVSKHAVEN CHADS?? WHAT THE FUCK??
>>539582213I know, I got a 24hr ban for telling a monkey griefer to play in traffic
>>539582229>fell for the tswow memeI guess it's fine if they don't get over 2k players
>>539582229duckheaven exploded after mcdoubles advertised the server because more than 20 people wanted to log ineveryone thought it was shenna ddosing but maybe it had other problems
>>539571476Prepare to suffer as a warlock while levelling if you're on the pvp server, they are near useless until the mid 40s
>>539582626well ascension finally managed to make it work, and they said they pushed it to the open source repo, so...
>>539574452Note: fear is bugged in various ways on this server. It breaks far too quickly in pvp, people have speculated this is due to increased hp + damage everyone has while the fear formula mighty depend on static values which haven't been updated to compensate. It also allows the target to move during the fear, so melee will just run towards you even if they can't attack for 2-3 seconds making it useless for distancing. This coupled with spell pushback it's often not worth casting at all unless your target is unaware of you.
>>539582975>Breaks far to quickly.I've almost exclusively experienced the opposite in PvP. Being feared and then gained on by 5 different people but eating the full duration regardless.The moving during Fear and Poly is definetly still there.
>>539581127Kek
>Literally had to go prot/holy due to being impossible to pug as ret>At breaking point as a tank because tanking for pugs is objectively worse than on retail>Every group I get invited to already has either a ret or a brown, both geared to fuckIT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
>>539585865If they're geared then why do you care? You'll get all the loot
>>539585865I literally get whispers from randoms every day asking if I can tank for them.As a tank u get the privilege of forming your own groups, befriend every healer you pug with, add them to friends and then run dungeons with them in the future, choosing 3 subhuman dps players that can't even roll need on your gear while you hoard plate and 2h weapons for your offspec.
>3 classes that can tank>1 is an extremely boring undeveloped triple hybrid>1 is an extremely boring undeveloped triple hybrid>1 aoes like shit and you've already played it a trillion times
>>539588768>1 aoes like shitskill issue
>>539588768j-Just use CC and kill one mob at time!
Anticipation from the prot tree has even MORE use because shit hits harder on this server.
Warrior feels underpowered and shitty. Idk what to play instead, I just feel fatigued at this point
>>539589078Dude, we all know that if you play a Warrior, you can’t play other classes anymore. You’d better just quit the game
You know what they should do with Magram and Gelkis reps, make them pseudo-pvp reps where you can protect whichever faction camp you aligned with and do dailies to assault the opposing camp. Throw in a rep vendor and some new pvp rewards too.
>>539589078You could have great leveling and dungeons as WotLK warrior instead but that was against Kucktotes vision.
>>539588768desu they could do more work on tanks. Prot paladin got most QoL changes but it's still the same old aoe spec reliant on spell damage which makes it shit for leveling unless u live in dungeons.Feral tanking is literally the same spec it was in TBC.Prot war got single target buffs which is literally the only fucking thing they were fine with to begin with.
whats the best way to grind some gold at lvl 40
>>539582229Gaytotes strikes again
>>539589763Suck cock
>>539587492>he thinks they still won't roll on anything with a pulse because of muh OS
>>539590857It doesn't matter whether the set gives 15 energy or 35. Have these people tested the frequency of the proc? The problem is that rogues have no AoE whatsoever, and the single target is mediocre as well, and will stay mediocre, because there's no haste
>>539590417BASED
>>539590857i don't get why they hate rogues so much, this wasn't even meant to be a pvp server in the first place
>400 posts in 24 hoursBros...
>>539591215Same with engineering, which is completely unchanged and therefore shit, kaytotes and friends rolled on a PVP server then got ganked by rogues.
I hate the doomers as much as anyone but Guru currently has 2.8k people online, that's not great
>Just hit level 10Time to afk in WSG until lvl 19 so I don't have to touch this shitty minigame for the rest of my life. Nothing personal alliance.
>>539587492>I can't play ret because of all the rets and browns>whenever I tank there's a decked out ret and brown doing sub150 DPS>meaning some fucking orangutan from africa is getting to play what I want, getting the drops I want and doing nothing with themthis must be what being a cuckold feels like
>log in>get an immediate guild invite from some fuck sitting in stormwindLEAVE ME ALONE
>>539591386kezan is fine, pvp servers always bleed pop because normal people aren't interested in having their ability to play/level dictated by third world gankers
>All trannies, avatarfags and other types of mentally unwell attention whores left the general like a week ago>/vg/ guilds literally are all dead, having 1-2 players online tops>devs abandoned the project>the new devs don't give a fuck and focus on their new retail minus cashgrab.>website down>asc doesn't even advertise the project due to C&D so no one even knows this server exists>no roadmap>no fixes to gamebreaking issues>no fixes in last 48 hours at all>guru probably 3-4 weeks top from being merged>even troonwow shills stopped shitting up this general because the writing is on the wall and they know epoch is no longer a thread. I had my fun but this shit is over.
Will they still merge the servers if Guru becomes too low pop, or is Dutch not gonna bother?
>>539592160they will offer server transfers and let the pvp browns suffer
>>539591351I'm busy playing the game
>Guru gets mergedThat's a good thing tho.
>>539592567no I don't want more third worlders on my server
>>539592567sucks for people who didn't reserve nicknames on kezan tho
>>539564163
>>539592160even gaytotes said they'd merge if the pop got really bad, but dutch's threshold for merging is also retardedly high, there was zero reason to merge kezan and menethil. i still doubt it because the servers and their culture are so different, i think they would have to start consistently dipping below 2k before it became a question.
>quality of dungeon groups is droppingslow shitters are making it to 60.
>>539592995Most people with a brain quit so now you only have dogshit left
Can't decide between Ret and Arms, I have never really played either much before and definitely not in classic/tbc...
>>539593796Arms has bladestorm
>>539593947But ret has wings no? Is Bladestorm that good?
>>539593796Don't waste your time on a dead server that will most likely get axed and offer people some free donation points for hitting 60 to boost numbers during BBC+ launch.
>>539593796They're both good but one gets invites and the other doesn't.
>>539594101>Still more pop even at downtime than the max allowed during vanilla/early TBC>deadlook ma I posted it again
>>539590417shut the fuck up aijeet
>>539545172Oh no, I outed myself as someone that wants to socialize with people in an MMO! (no one talks while doing those quests and you know it)
>>539592092Ambershart’s pop is slowly creeping up with all the Pochie refugees requesting asylum
I'm a huge homo fag and cant decide what to roll.shaman or paladin or rogue?
>>539599847shaman is easy. no one is going to say no to shaman.
>>539599847>playing on a PVP serverrogue>taking HRTpaladin>brownshaman
>>539599847Shaman can heal really well, deal damage real good and is a must have buffer.Every group will want you.
>>539599847very few people play rogue so you will have an easier time getting into raids if you offer your asshole and act as the sunder slut the other 2 are very popular and while needed you might struggle with finding groups
>>539600364nobody is bringing rogues or melee
>>539600513browns want to raid too and there's enough of them to make it happen
>>539600892Nobody is bringing rogues or rets and one shaman is enough.
>>539600892>>539600950I'll be surprised if 40 guys are still playing by raids release.
>>539601826>40retard
Father, is it over?
>>539603314No private server rules forever, my son.
>>539604201...some private server only rule for like a month, my son
>*rules forever in you're path*
>>539605708Warmane is dead. Their population numbers are so obviously faked.
>>539605708how come this one still around even with those obvious fake numbers? whats so interesting about LK raids every week?
>>539606961Sunk cost fallacy. The slavs who infest Warmane have spent too much time/money to abandon ship.
>>539606864Prove it. If it's so obviously, it should be easy for you.
i've not played in awhile i've been sick how is the server.
>5 lvl 19 zugzug twinks literally doing 10x damage than alliance>still loses 2-0 to one fucking immortal druid that kites them for 5 minutes straightLiteral comedy
>>539607868Twinks can't actually do objectives, they just farm kills.
>>539608159twinks are built for my cock
>armorsmithing is a whole ass quest chain and I need a bunch of materials Hell yeah I love shit like this
>>539609825that shit's been around since classic. It's pretty cool, even if the rewards aren't GREAT.
>threads lasting for 3+ days nowI give this general another week.
>>539610696this thread has been around for -A- day, retard.
A few days ago I asked for advice regarding two pairs of pants for an Arms Warrior who regularly tanks. I was told that +Def early on is not so important if it doesn't have stats attached to itI bring another question. Which of these would you pick? I'm level 39 now.>Stonefist Girdle>234 Armor, +6 Strength, +7 Stamina, +3 All Stats (belt buckle)From what I understand, many people keep this one well into Plate territory>Girdle of Golem Strength>128 Armor, +12 Strength, +3 DefenseOf course I can get a belt buckle on the second one and neutralize the +3all difference there, but even ignoring that it still seems to me like #1 is better than #2, no? 6 strength and 3 defense doesn't seem worth losing more armor and stam.
the general is 7 years old at this point it's over
>>539610696Damn that's crazy dog, let's look at turt- >>>/vm/1888226 oh. Oh my goodness. I'm so sorry.
>>539611470+3 to other stats is also nice in other ways like more spirit is comfy on war for questing but probably won't amount to much while tanking
>>539611470Stonefist Girdle will probably be your best belt for a good while.>t. still using it at level 41
Bronzebeard hype status?
>>539606864Literally not true for Lordaeron, Dalarn is filled to the brim and global is constantly spammed with shit all up until dead hours. Any voa-toc I join is filled in either seconds for minutes tops and WG premade fill full raid groups constantly at peak hours
>>539614269Why do you keep posting this. I don't care. I don't want to know about this server. I'm playing on Epoch.
>>539611470Stonefist all the way, that's going to last a long time until you get a proper plate belt later on.
>afk near a questgiver>diewell shit. fuck the iron soul, I guess.
ahahahahahahaaa
>>539616218Nigga didn't you get past this quest last time? There's no way you didn't know.
>>539616218I think Darkshore is just cursed for you brother
>>539616314no, I died from a DC, while gathering the key materials.Also, I was AFK using the bathroom. By the time I came back, I was at 30 HP.
>>539616218i genuinely think permadeath in MMOs is a retarded concept but i wish there was a mode that had more consequences for death. even EQ like requiring corpse runs and incorporating binding as a mechanic would be cool.
>>539616665Boy howdy do I have the game for you
>>539616665Soul of Iron isn't permadeath, you just get a debuff that makes you do the walk of shame back to Goldshire or any starter town.
shaman totems party or raid wide?
>can skip manually flagging for pvp for 15 seconds by just casting a buff on a flagged party member/ally and can instantly help outlol
>>539617440just read the epoch websi...oh...oh no....
>>539616218At this point you might as well not do Soul of Iron, 3rd time was not the charm.
>>539619025especially since this server does not seem like it's all that long for this world.
Can I eventually spec out of Pursuit of Justice or is 15% move/mount speed THAT good even at 60?
>>539620101respect into pursuit of a better hobby
>>539620216As soon as you fix your autocorrect
>>539616218maybe you should play something that can stealth, just a thought
Damn I just got wrecked by a rogue as a warrior. Like I didn't even get to touch the guy, he just kept stunlocking me.
Anyone have the dps chart for ambershire? someone posted it the other day and I want to see how each class/spec is doing.
>>539621409Followup: how are you supposed to fight rogues as a warrior before you're 60 and before you have PvP trinket/other abilities to remove CC? Is it just a given you die if they get the jump on you without those?
>>539622392>before you have PvP trinketYou can get a PvP trinket at 15, no excuse.
>>539623073My excuse is that I like world pvp but don't care for BGs
>Questing buddy suggests I switch my pally to Prot spec early on>I don't mind tanking so why not?>He's got a strong set for PvP so I'd feel safer than I would if I was trying to level Prot alone on a PvP server>Fast forward to now and I gotta beg on my god damn hands and knees to get him to stop powerleveling in WSG and help me hit 60 before he's too far ahead to do any helping.>>539623073>>539622392Did you know the Engi's Death Ray is bugged?It doesn't do anything and they won't fix it LMAO.Total waste of time to level Engi for pvp.
>>539623250lemme tell you what engi is about: BOMBS, fuck gnome bullshit
I really feel no desire to play Epoch.
Yeah that's it, I'm gonna check out Fellowship.
>>539623893mc hat is peak wownothing better than stealing a shamans windfury totem and raping him with it
>>539607174https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b4l-4uLYa4lSRm4T3wo1QgiQwcPKHj5x88hP2jcR8ys/edit?gid=869671775#gid=869671775https://imgur.com/a/Ydjy6
>can trade winterfall firewater for a green weapon that de's into a greater eternal essence.neat.
>>539590212
Does transmog not work? I can't get my weapon to keep it after walking a few steps from the transmog vendor
2 hours in LFG queue for Lbrs, I understand it's not a popular dungeon, but holyshit this game is dead af.
>>539631328all blackrock dungeons are fucking cancer
>>539631328I mean you're literally looking for group at the peak of downtime when NAbabs go to sleep and EUchads are waking up to work. Let me guess you're also missing a healer or a tank or you only want a very specific dps that doesn't compete with your rolls
>>539631328they fucked up the tuning so its unfun now the server is going to die in the next month
>>539631823At times it was one or the other. Just never had a dungeon take so fucking long to find anyone. Twow doesn't have that issue, but their LFG is integrated.>>539632206I think this might've been the plan all along. Dutch saved Epoch, the hype and good vibes failed, because of lack of content and broken stuff. Bronzebeard is less buggy and has lots of cool stuff and it's coming soon. Everyone moves to play that and when that dies down, maybe they reintroduce Epoch all patched up, bug free and with a new dungeon/raid out.
>>539632523No one cares about their retoilet minus servers. Between Guru and Kezan you're still looking at 9k+ players during daily peaks. They would be retarded to just abandon that business.
>>539632523You play on Guru or Kezan?
how the fuck do you deal with nigger hunters in pvp as a mage?t. never played a mage in wow
>>539630332Pls respond
>deaths: 2what? I only died once.
>>539633195put your permanent 50% slow on them, sheep their pet, walk away
>>539633342so there is no way to seriously fight these faggots on this server 1v1?
>>539633454I'd rather slow people permanently and assert my dominance by torturing them with an endless goose chase, but you know you can just kill them, right? icy veins and the slow lasts long enough to kill the hunter three times over
>>539633578>>539633342I cast Bestial Wrath with the The Beast Within talent.Now what?
>>539633719Retard
>>539633719you're still dead because icy veins prevents pushback on arcane blast spam
I'm farming pvp gear for my prot paladin due to sheer stamina volume.Should I just buy the standard strength set and then spell power shield/weapon?
Goddamn.
>>539631328What's a LFG queue?
>>539634104>they buffed the armorsmithing macedamn!
>>539633578is icy veins + slow the only window mages have to murder these bestial wrath spamming kikes?
>>539634108There is an addon called LFG that is basically the LFG group function from retail without getting teleported to the dungeon
>>539634196No one uses LFG in here tho, Group Bulletin Board is ur best chance.
Going to download bronzebeard and if it's halfway decent I'm going to ditch epoch just because of the state of the rogue class
>>539634357is bronzebeard even live yet?
>>539634357Yeah, it's kind of crazy how busted Rogue is on Epoch. If you take Engineer you're like head and shoulders above every other class except Hunter, but it hasn't lost its charm for me yet.
>>539634298I'm using both
>>539634196>addonFound the problem. Probably less than 10% of players have that and just make groups the old fashioned way. Especially tank players have less than zero reasons to use it.
When is the damn database going to be online? Come on, nobody cares about this so-called "exploration" (lol), everyone already gets it. Where are the promised QoL features for the client? What the hell is going on?
>>539634462I had decent success with it, at least during euro evenings I can get groups for 2-3 dungeons in about 3hours when I queue for emporer runs, strat ud, scholo, ubrs
>>539631328unsociable shit DPS spotted
>>539634409The beta is available so I'm just checking out how things work there
>>539634412>Yeah, it's kind of crazy how busted Rogue is on Epoch.
Raids when?People with prebis have nothing to do
>>539634828When I hit lvl 60 and gear up (I'm lvl 11 atm)
>>539634591shaming someone for clicking a button to add them to a queue, instead of spamming chat endlessly, there is no cure for your stupidity
>>539634828:^)
>>539634828Why did you race to 60 when you new MC/Ony wasn't out yet?
>>539634828Have you already grinded a set of 2% epics from brd / brs?
>>539634646If you are not terribly bored could you type which classes draenei have access to and how paladin trees look like
>>539634192what do you mean only? it's a single talent point investment near the starting talent row that will just kill huntards like common mobs. even faster if they send in their pets first from long distance because you can stack arcane blast on those. im sure there's more "skilled" ways to kill hunters, but you quite literally have all the tools in your arsenal to make life a living hell for them, because you can deal with the pet, you have gap closers, you can make it impossible for the hunter to escape with just a rank 1 frostbolt + blink and if you so desire you can just torture them, once their pet is gone, with rank 1 blizzards and give them a painful slow death for bonus hate whispers. huntards only defense against mages is pushback and even that is hopeless if the mage comes into the fight with 1-2 arcane blast stacks already due to the pet
Anyone else playing in VR? It works surprisingly well and the immersion is pretty incredible. I'm doing well in dungeons and I can switch to 3rd person for pvp. "Wahlok" on Horde if anyone wants to chat
what spec are you playing, anonkun?
>>539635412i thought about it, i have a headset i never use because i don't have enough room for full body stuff
>>539635661There are two versions of the mod. Personally I play sitting down at my desk with keyboard and mouse, using controllers is another optional though. It's cool and works well until you have too many skills in rotation
>>539635132Casters don't have such things
>>539635342thank you anon, i will now destroy huntards with this knowledge.
>>539634646>The beta is availablethey're doing OBT?
So I learned armorsmith and learned all the recipes from the trainer, will there be new quests for new recipes or are they all random drops/AH purchases?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
>>539637251drops, mostly from raids.
Kezansisters... I just got disconnected in a horde of (dead) murlocks.....
>>539636505No, but they are posting like 50 keys every 2-3 days, just get a mass link opener while you're logged into ascension and open them all
>>539638027Damn alright, at least the ones from the trainer seem pretty solid.
>Server down for the literal 5th time in the last 2 hoursAlright, what the fuck is going on? It's like they don't want us to play or some shit.
I need a new pserver to rescue me from Epoch
Prot paladinEnchanting for the much needed spell power enchants and endgame money making. Mining for early gold or tailoring for some extra clothes cash and synergy with enchanting? (Not a total loss on pala with the new cloak enhancements mind you)
>home from work>server downof course.
I'm torn, brosEpoch runs/looks/plays great, but massively lacks custom content, it's literally just vanilla WoW with very slight changes, and the population is going down more and more by the week, not to mention we have no release date for raids, there's no website, and all devs have basically jumped shipTwow has an ungodly amount of custom content and much more players by far, but the client runs like shit and it has a P2W Shop, and the community is fucking horrid
>>539638946I ended up just going back to turtle, I honest to God think Epoch is going to be shut down by Ascension and that's why devs refuse to say anything to anyone.
>>539637251There's a blue BiS caster neck you can craft, Black Diamond something-something.No idea where to get the recipe though.
>>539616218LMFAO I TOLD YOU YOU ARE SHIT AT HC YOU USELESS NEET COOMER
>>539638721>>539638884that's what you get for being kezaniggers
>>539639550Nowhere else to go, bro.
>>539639548you seem upset.
>>539639153>>539638946>concerned troondle shill has to reply to himself after being ignoredsad
>>539634998>"wah you stupid :("and you have zero redeeming features and networking skills to make people want to friend you and interact with you and instead rely on an addon to force people into grouping with you
>>539639583nope I'm celebrating!
>>539639683why? What about my character got you so butt flustered?
>>539638946I'm sticking with epoch for now but i do agree both it and turtle will most likely be shut down sometime within the next year
>>539639738it's just fun to watch you fail over and over both in game and in real life
>>539639889I mean, I have fun with a video game using ironic character names, when I'm home from my full time job. You, apparently, obsess with fantasies of me failing rather than doing either.I'm sorry you get so bootybothered by me having fun and posting about my experiences in a thread dedicated to discussion about a video game.
How do I earn gold at 60 other than solo Princess runs?
Does epoch has any lewd/thicc mods available?i want to see how my female ud looks
>>539635412How do ya do itI wanted to try classic in VR when it came out but I couldn't get it working for whatever reason I don't remember
>1.72%no way this is real, the sword isn't even good.
>>539641159Retard
>server literally dead on a fridayyikes
>>539641432NA is asleep, Europe is at workStop being a neet
>>539640227honest question:how are you so bad at a solved 30 year old video game? in a thread populated by the least skilled players in probably the entire shitty community of literal faggots, you somehow standout as especially awful.Why?
>>539641850that's not an honest question. It's you continuing to seethe over me daring to have a name you don't like.Why don't you just go play your character?
I am the biggest retard in this thread but whats the most simple way to have some sort of big ass notification popping up middle screen when stuff like nightfall or other abilities proc?
>>539642051Powerauras
>>539641920I'm not the other dude. You're a discord tranny so this may seem weird for you but not everyone is a samefagging degenerate.
>>539642238sure thing, sport.
>>539642314gonna answer the fucking question or just cry about meanie booboo hurt feewings?
>>539642371my dude, I died once in a week, and you decided I'm the worst player in this thread.Do you need me to explain how retarded that is? Because I don't think I have the crayons to do so.
What custom race are you guys going?Oh wait...
>>539642051tellmewhen is pretty simple to config
>>539642446>ironman>goes afk directly next to an npc that turns hostile>could have logged out>could have just waited to take a shit>goes afk anyhow even tho he's done this 1287ou129817298 before which is pathetic enough>dies>whines about how its the games fault>jacks off to character again
>>539641625>less than 5k>REEEEE STOP BEING A NEET REEE
>>539642581I didn't know he lured a hostile elite as part of the chain, and I didn't say it was the game's fault. In fact, I specifically said I died because I went AFK.You're calling me a retard when you are literally living in a fantasy you constructed in your own head. Grow up, faggot.Or don't, I've lost interest in you.
>>539642051https://github.com/NoM0Re/WeakAuras-WotLK/The import https://wago.io/KBL3nBoZ6 or something similar.
>>539640227>full time jobyou literally said you're a neet who never worked and will never work. nice try.
>>539638946the more I play both turtle and epoch I realize that the turtle custom content is actually pretty bad, doesn't feel blizzlike to me at all epoch changes are more subtle and tasteful but I do agree, there should be a bit more of it. some zones like westfall barely have any new things to do
>>539643948don't diss auntie vancleef
>>539644001where do you start that quest? haven't seen it after doing deadmines and every other quest in westfall that I could find
>>539644075you do a quest after you kill vancleef, learn vancleef had a daughter from asmongold and it leads to the auntie questline that was broken in darkshire last time I checked
>>539643740reasonably certain he considers grooming minors via discord to be his full time "job"
>>539644260>you do a quest after you kill vancleefwell I killed him but only got the unsent letter and his head (vanilla quests), anything I'm missing?
>>539642840you're a retard for going afk ANYWHERE while having a single life
>>539644372yeah makes sense, explains his obsession with coomer and pedo names
>>539644518>yeah makes sense, explains his obsession with coomer and pedo namesbut that's me not him
>dead server>dead generalwhen is the next fresh
>>539644075you start the quest in Auberdine by talking to a literal nigger sitting by a fire
>saw people whine how bosses are overtuned, how Drakkisath has a one shot mechanic>fight Drakkisath myself>it's a cool as fuck fight that's not too hard if group follows the supposed tacticI guess all the whiners and the shitters who quit due to "overtuned content" just wanted to faceroll 5mans and go into raid logging mode as soon as possible
Can I switch specs during a dungeon run, or do I have to visit the trainer?
>>539647840Anything that's not a pure lootpinata is "overtuned" to the average mmo glue sniffer
>>539648598Likely yes, it's the same double spec as wotlk, you have it in your talents tab.
Debating on making a healer alt should I go holy priest, disciple priest, or holy pally?
>>539647840How many melee did you have in your group, just curious?
>>539648795pally so you won't want to kill yourself while leveling
>>539649014pally was also what I was leaning towards think I'll try them
>>539648795Paladin is pure torture with no aoe heals
>>539648868we had an enh
I need ideas for Taurenic warrior transmog. Orcs have cool as fuck grunts in Orgrimmar to copy, but Tauren guards in TB look like shit.
>>539648795>>539649014>>539649372What about resto shaman? are they strong healers?
>>539649560So just one and the tank? As a healer my experience in UBRS isn't having issues with the one shot mechanic but the fucking conflag. Did that fight with two melee and it was just miserable due to the conflag aoeing anyone near the target. It could've been the fact those melee were retards and always stacking but that and the interruptible flamestrikes hitting 3 targets every time makes that fight such a pain in the ass
>>539650039>interruptible flamestrikesSometimes they aren't, what's up with that?
>>539650286Epoch moment I guess, no clue.
>>539649937Heals are mid but heroism carries so hard they are probably overall best
DESU guild DEADDEAD DESU guildDed serverDed DESU guildDead DESU guild on Ded Server guild DESU Ded
Are you really totally useless as a warr without a pocket healer in pvp? Would ret be better off for some solo bg/wpvp fun?
>>539649937Best healer for dungeons because then you don't have to bring a gimped shaman DPS for bloodlust, so they are the most optimal at least for speedrunning
>>539640848the mod requires a 3.3.5 clientepoch happens to run on that
Dead Server
>>539649937Always welcome because mana totems stack and they can self res after a wipe.
Any noticeable winners/losers when it comes to t0,5 dungeon set bonuses?i am about to hit level 52 with lock and have not seen anyone with it in the major townd
whats this mog?
>>539650636you aren't useless and you need to understand your role in bgsyour whole purpose is to break into their frontline/backline to take aggro, so that your backline can push in and kill their people for as long as you can survive (since their backline will get skittish with you applying pressure next to him), which is contingent on you having a healer. you can also not do that and just wait for openings to snack people, but then the entire skirmish just becomes a poking fest of which side can last longer through harassment before one has to retreat. the only thing that changes with paladin is that you are now a cuck waiting to assist a warrior with HoF to do the above. the real question is what the type of gameplay is that you enjoy
>>539651815paypiggie donation shop item
>>539651989thats a bummer
>>539652026its not a good slutmog anyway, because the real good one is hiding on ascension and any of the other classic slutmogs mogs that
>>539651780Lock bonuses are all kinda dogshit desu and only wrists, hands and robes are actual prebis (and even robe is just barely)If I was to do it all again I'd stop at the part where you get the gloves.
>>539652171forgot piccy
>>539652482actual warlock bis
>>539652482they should make Assumi slutmog bundle pack already
>>539652731unironically so BiS I grinded the 20k gold to buy it as an account transmog
>>539652835does it come with dog companions or baby orcs
>>539650668>bloodlust for dungeonsirrelevant
>>539652984Retard
>>539652331>and only wrists, hands and robes are actual prebisfactually false
>>539652984lol.So are consumables, enchants, pre-BiS, etc.But not everyone is a pathetic dad gamer who wants to spent 4 hours running a single Scholomance. Unnecessary? Sure. Irrelevant? Hardly.
>>539653023Retard
>>539653009retard>>539653085nobody uses consumables in dungeons, are you kidding me?
>>539652862based
>>539653216Hi cuckzan dadgamer! >>539653216
>>539653216>nobody uses consumables in dungeons
>>539653110Retard
Retards!
>>539653295>has to use flasks and pots for 20 year old dungeons made for lobotomized boomers>mourns the removal of world buffsBack to Classic/SoD
this server is deader than dead. ascension is focusing on bbc whiteboi plapping porn and doesnt have time for epoch
>>539653298Retard
>>539653417>has toAre you ESL or something? Nobody is saying they're required. But trying to say things like consumables and bloodlust are irrelevant to running dungeons is fucking extremely stupid.
>>539653452epoch is the cuck chair
>using consumables in dungeons>having to rely on the BL crutch in dungeonsHow fucking bad are you
>>539653534A long cooldown for bosses that die before half the duration of the buff is extremely stupid yes.Why are you larping as some speedrunner when you have no idea of optimized comps?
>thinking your Classic BiS List holds true on EpochHow fucking bad are you?
>>539653668Okay professional speedrunner. Please enlighten the rest of the thread on the most optimal healer for running dungeons. Which healer has better offensive support than resto shaman? This'll be good.
>>539653668>A long cooldown for bosses>for BOSSESLMFAO, confirmed for being an absolute shitter. you don't even use BL on bosses when speedrunning dungeons
>>539653902>you don't even use BL on bosses when speedrunning dungeonsOk then I accept your concession.
lil bruh seriously sitting here begging for bloodlust on the jandice pull thinking he is asmongold rofl
>>539653668>A long cooldown for bosses that die before half the duration of the buff is extremely stupid yes.So you havent hit 60 yet huh
>>539651780the reason you won't see many locks with the set is because we are being gate keeped by j*ndiceand yeah set bonuses suck
>>539654193not all warlocks are luckletsalso pretty much all classes have their gloves / boots / shoulders on random annoying bosses nobody want to do
>>539654193>we are being gate keeped by j*ndicehow? literally just pull her through the stairs in the room before kirtonos, it takes 5 minutesi have been doing jandice in every group i join
>>539654318only one that's even remotely comparable is mage who needs something from a off the path rare and maybe priest with their shoulders but at least priest has the bargaining power of being a healerdps can't do shit but beg
>>539654468jandice is the objective of a quest, i've done her on like half of my scholos, it's not that bad
Forcing jahyanon to suck me off right before the dungeon or no Jandice.
>>539655816imagine when the brat acts up after jandice again and we just take turns matepressing the tiny bitch
noob warlock hereImp, Blue Berry or Succ for dungeons?
>>539656368imp 100% because phase shift
>>539656426Is pathing THAT bad..?
Anyone tried fellowship yet? Looks like a neat spin on a dungeon grinder
>>539657226Holy shit there's a hot furry chick race? Why didn't anyone say anythingI will NOW buy your game
I do not want impoverished retards playing this game. Any server which gives Russians easier access to WoW must be dismantled. Any server which lets Indians play the game for free must be rooted out and ended. Will do whatever I can to build attention for this server so that blizzard is more likely to shut it down. Down with the third world
>>539657914post hand, rajesh
kez-ACK
Have not played in over a week. Did they fix the feralas chicken quest? Otherwise I'm not logging in.
>>539660049>Did they fixlol, nah
>>539660049Fixed it, I completed two escort quests in feralas yesterday, no need to wait for server restart now.
>10 10-19 wsg loses in a low as alliance glue sniffers keep queueing at low lvls without gear while horde has a bunch of twinks and lvl 17-19 players
>>539662524i started queueing as a level 10 priest with 200 hp
>>539662524>its second week in a row of me queueing wsg at 60>its another 2v3 game>its another day of me reading comments about being AHEAD OF THE CURVE SEVEN WEEKS INTO THE SERVER>"im comfy leveling at 30 rn, server def not dead, only neet sweats are 60"where did all of these weirdos come from?
>>539662524Horde are very defensive about their 10-19 WSG wins because it's the only bracket they can win consistently
>>539663741desu alliance has plenty of twinks but they're mostly NA babs playing NA hours. Alliance 20-29 bracket is 10 times worse than 10-19. Things are only starting to look better in 40-49
>>539662524why are you playing 10-19 wsg 5 weeks into the server's life?
>>539666508forgive me for wanting to try the server
>>539663008>"im comfy leveling at 30 rn, server def not dead, only neet sweats are 60"
if dont have at least one 60 at this point you must be retarded, there is no other explanation>I JUST LOVE QUES-nah if you actually liked it you would have already hit 60
>>539668289explorer's contract for maximum comf
>>539668289I got 1 character parked at 59 to smurf on 50-59 bracket if the devs don't abandon the server and release AB and actual lvl 60 pvp gear. Literally 0 reason to be lvl 60.
Server definitely became less toxic with the freshfags/attention whores/sod & classic tourists gone. High lvl horde players just run past waving at me.
>>539668289explorerCHAD+no bgslop+no rested cheats+fisher+profession leveleryep I'm good pochibwuoh I'm good by the time I level up everything will be fixed, soft relaunched, dutchbalanced and turned into comfypop dadgamer server
>>539489769The exact mentality that lead to nu-wowyou can trace the line exactly from that thought to the slop they're shoveling now.
>>539668879>by the time I level up the server will be offline with all resources moved to BBC+ftfy
>>539668981aint matter
>mage from chinese guild just instantly disappeared, no after image or anything
>>539668289Unemployed anon, silksong just released, I don't have enough time to tank for you
>>539656368Succ, imp is near 100% useless as it ooms in a second
>>539656368voidwalker is a great off tank as most dungeons are overtuned so that is what you want to go with 99% of the timewarlock is OP and overtuned on this server anyway, your damage will carry the dungeon anyway without a pet
>>539668289>taking breaks from wow makes me retarded
>>539669643fak u family gweilo u wan report me huh??? cao ni ma bitch
kezan - 3.6k, ambershire - 7.2k
>>539670453T_____ W__
why can't epoch allow me to multibox 200 characters like turtle does?
>>539670453>Still giving a fuck about fake numbers on a server that disabled all /who functionalityNGMI
>>539518160>Everyone kept saying Turtle WoW had 10k+ People on it at all timesThe epoch shill said that as supposed proof of turtle being botted, no turtle player ever made that claim.
>bought the last arcanite bar on the AH last night and relisted it for a more reasonable price>they're already down to 18g (arcane crystals are 11g)What is wrong with these people? Do they want to be poor?
Pochie weekend is starting, how are we feeling?
>>539671675Got my healing dress from Baron yesterday so that's nice. Just going to work on trying to get more pieces of my 0.5 set that never seems to drop.
>>539671608Have you checked the prices of Arcanite Ore, anon? Miners can smelt arcanite bars with no cooldown.
>kezan steadily losing 250 players off of peak hours every day
>>539671903How the fuck are you supposed to make money with alchemy, then? Why do leatherworkers and tailors still get to make money with their cooldowns? Fuck you, Gaytotes.
>>539672446>Fuck you, Gaytoteswho?
>>539672446I don't feel so good. I picked rogue and alchemy, I am so cucked...
>>539672642>rogue and alchemyenjoy losing in pvp, doing 0 dmg in pve (if ur even invited to begin with lmao) and being a brokie
>>539669986>>539670142I'm getting conflicting info here...also how is warlock damage op my damage isnt that great.. how do I damage with warlock..??
>>539672446you need 1 or 2 rugged hides/mooncloth for one recipeyou need like 40 arcanite for one recipethe volume is just different
>>539672446>>539672642You should have picked better professions, lmao.
>>539672446>makes a bad pick>but how am I supposed to live with the consequence of my actions?I fucking hate whiny incels these days
2k server lol
>>539672642>roguego pick pocket retard>alchgrats, your flasks and elixirs last longer thus saving your money, thats how you make money with alchgo pick up mining and just afk stealth on rich thorium veins.
>>539669643Invis pots you dummyWatching retards like you freak out as I use them to take high ground and open on them after I see them target me and begin to beeline in my direction will always be hilarious
>Number is actually dropping down as we're getting close to EU peak>Barely breaks 3k nowWell rip I guess
>enemy npc high elves use the tbc blood elf modelsouless
>>539674076NO NO! YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ITS SUPPOSED TO BE COMFY!
>>539674090Only some. It's a broken mess.
Bros...when is BBC+ coming out....?
reading this thread gives me brain damage
>>539674547it'll come out when it is done cumming in my tight bussy now keep thrusting!!
i just started on gurudo mobs do more dmg on this server? or am i just retarded? feels like im taking more damage but its entirely possible im just fucking stupid
>>539674870yep, theyre a bit biuffed
Lole, turtle trannies we won
>>539675128OK ty anon! good that im not 100% stupid.
>>539675250>shutdown
>>539668903>completely missing the pointIronically that exact mentality is what lead to nu-wow.
oh boy we're having the same discussion again but this time it's about the amount of friction in the gameplay>the amount of friction I like in classic wow is the exact right amount>if you want more you're a no-life puritan autist>if you want less you're a retail touristcan we go back to talking about epoch now?
why did they remove the westfall hidden treasure quest
>>539678331>frictionAll the "emergent gameplay" retards say "friction" now. Which streamer populated it?
>>539679017no idea, it's a been a term for years now in game design
>>539675250welcome to 3 weeks ago tourist
>>539489769This is genuinely what led to modern WoW where every single class feels and plays exactly the same and you're just choosing which VFX/SFX are more appealing to you; the complete elimination of differentiating factors, "flavor", uniqueness, etc.
Remember "bring the player, not the class"? That was embarrassing.
>>539680191see >>539677802First reply got it, the you came to being a brainlet trying to preach to the choir.
>>539680760>dogshit opinion>"it's right because I say it's right">refuses to elaborate>quotes himselfyep, I'm thinking it's zoomie hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJAsHJ_Od9gBlizzard needs to consult or hire passionate WoW players like this guy
>>539680984Which part of "Blizzard implementation of soulshards is shit" is wrong?
>>539681125>caught lacking>Immediately runs away with the goalpostsdamn, I was wrong, it's european zoomie hours
>>539681125mhmhm yesss master Ion, another serving of your FINEST slop, if you would
>>539681324>>539681543>can't read>can't follow backlinks>makes a fool of himself>samefags>100% insults and projectionAmerican hours, actually.Now, enlighten us, how are vanilla soulstones a good addition to the game? If you can't you're a legit retard and this conversation is over.
jokes on you, I was just pretending to be retarded
>>539672446>taylors>making moneyBags sell for roughly the same price as the reagents used to make them.Plus I havent seen a single new high level tailoring recipe that could potentially be used to make gold.
gnomes=onaholes
>>539682230t. gnome
>Guru during EU primedont be said because it's overbe happy because it happened
I figure ascension would want to capitalize on being handed a pretty big community and would continue developing epoch even if it wasn't their server originally, guess I was wrong. I have zero interest in bronzebeard and I'd rather take a break from wow till something interesting pops up again
>>539682432>old core with TSWoW vibe codingShit is unsalvageable and probably way worse than Ascension team thought at first.
>>539682414I'm just going to run BlackRock spire, stratholme and scholomance, which should ding me to 60 and then I uninstall
kezan is still 4k+???
>>539643740no I didn't. YOU said that and I just never bothered correcting you.
>>539682414hows the pop looking
>>539672446>leatherworkers and tailorslol lmaothey make 40g once every 4 daysenchanting is the easy money making profession like always
>>539681638>"I'm right because I'm right because I'm right and it's on you to say why I'm not, because I'm right"yawn@yourlife, you need to be 18 to be here lil'ahmed
>>539683397enchanting is a ponzi schememining is honest pay for honest work
Now that hurt guru is dead, should I go for warmane? Anyone here tried their servers?
>>539683371
>Show up to Everlook to pick up Hammersmithing quest>some 20 odd horde and alliance just murdering each other in the town while the goblins are beating whoever they can to death
>>539684052>I think this server is dead>Hows about this literal who server? Even though i've never heard of it, will it be AMAZING?Shenna, it's time to stop. you already deleted 4 plebbit threads today
fucking tourist lmao
>wake up>make 6 goldfuck me, money making is easier on this character than my warrior.
New BRD Arena boss, dropped a trinket that restored 500 mana or something. Was a surprise for sure.
>>539685787>new BRD arena boss that probably drops some pre-bisAnother great idea from Ecuck team!
>friday>4k playing on kezanyep its over
>>539686393>grrrr how dare there be new content!!! this isnt in my icyveins guide!!! AHHHHHHH IM GOINE INSANE HELP ME!!! A STREAMER NEEDS TO POST A TIER LIST RIGHT NOW!!!!
>>539686393What's bad about it?
>>539686393it's not prebis, it's a shit trinket that restores 400 mana on a 5min timer
even the thread is dying, just accept that this is the bronzebeard waiting room at this point
>>539687079they're letting epoch die, I want nothing to do with ascencion after this shit
>>539687079>>539686486Turtle hands
Obviously they're putting their focus on BBC+, they've been prepping it for ages and it was their main selling point before they acquired Epoch. They assumed at the time that the Epoch devs would be handling all that stuff with the support of a server team but now that they've bailed they need to put it on the backburner. It's just good business sense.
this turtleshill was completely buckbroken by Epoch
>>539686574The horrible RNG if you want to farm something.>>539686704So, what else is in his loot table?
>>539687280>turtle hands>I'm advocating for ascension's bronzebeard server over twow garbageare you retarded?
>>539686393it's really not that goodyou're just want to shit on anything that comes out of this serv, huh?
>>539688751Keyword: probably.>you'rewelp>you're just want to shit on anything that comes out of this serv, huh?I just question all their dumb design choices.So, you just want to dickride and simp exactly who? Epoch team already quit.
>having more loot variety is badIs this the mind of the modern MMO player?
>>539688970>muh typopost ignored
>>539689198>varietyThat only applies to new BiS items. Trash that isn't going to be used before it's fourth or fifth BiS are fucking useless and just function to pollute the loot pool and making it take even longer for you to get your pre-raid BiS. It's a complete waste of time to include garbage like that.>b-b-b-but it's SOUL!!No. It isn't. It's retarded.
>>539687280turtles have flippers, they can't type on keyboard silly.
>>539650770What's the mod?
>>539688659>Turdlette thinks anyone falls for the faux pas name dropShenna did not teach you well enough
>>539689346It's an upgrade for someone plus it's on a new boss you can just not do.
>>539689482>you can just not do.Wrong. It's a new boss to pollute the already existing polluted RANDOM boss selection of the BRD arena. You have NO choice whether to do or not do this boss if you are going after items from the arena.
>sweating pre-raid BiS when Ony/MC aren't even going to be out for another month and a half, minimum
>>539689610they are releasing next week
>>539689724Oh really, where's the announcement then?
>>539689610good, the parse minmax troons from SoD/Classic/Retail will quit after adhd kicks in because they got nothing to do and normal boomer dads can casually and with joy play on the non-toxic server just like kaytotes envisioned.
If you are so smart, how would you save Epoch?
>>539689792First I would get a team of developers to actually work on it
>>539688182>So, what else is in his loot table?A shitty statstick gun.
https://cn.everlook-wow.net/
>>539688659Anyone wanting Epoch to fail is working for Shenna
>>539690316>cnNo thanks Ping Chu Hi
>>539690316>chino serverI don't even want chinks on the server I'm playing
>>539689792Again, you can't save Epoch, the foundation (old core, TSWoW) its beyond fucked. The best you could do is add their content to a functional server.
>>539691352Honestly, after playing on epoch for 45 levels I'm more and more excited for bronzebeard every day, a lot of their features actually sound fun and I'd rather have fun in a video game
>36 hours no bug fixesThey played us like a fiddle
>>539691829such as?
>>539692415The items and spells you can just find out in the world if you take the time to look around, the fact that npcs drop their actual gear, professions like leather working actually being made useful for more than just levelling. I also really like the idea of rpg mechanics where a rogue would do more damage to cloth than plate so for fights like whitemane it makes more sense for the rogue to target her instead of Mograine
>Full 0.5 + hammer of truth UD retpaladin complaining the feather didn't drop from BH (22ap 16sp) because it's "Ret BiS since Blackhand's Breadth sucks"these people are allowed to MS ret and I'm here forced to be prot/holy to get into groups
should I invest all my gold to blacked lotuses?
>>539691829>2+ weeks>Still in the 40sOh you definitely need out. Classic isn't for you retailbab, you need "classic+" pay for max level treatment
>>539692605>playing with horde shitters?
>>539693147Yeah I just don't have the time to be max level in a week like I used to. Wife and kids come first, I'm sure you can relate.
>>539692605>Not Tanking>Not healing>retpallyYour fault for invited retadin filth.
>>539692605Are the nerfed bh still worth going for?
>>539692605this server has dual spec anyway, just heal and then roll on all dps gear you want
>>539693350what kind of a failure of a father and husband is playing private WoW servers instead of spending time with their familyWhat, you failed at one so you tried to be good in the other?
>>539693578>kids go to school>wife has a job>I have time to myself>anon thinks family life is 24/7 family because he's never experienced itlol, lmao even. I'm just enjoying the nostalgia, faggot.
>>539693578just spend time with your family on wow
>>539693673>wife has a job>you don'toh, so you're a cuck. Enjoy the nostalgia i guess, which you seemingly hate and want out of because you can't handle 1x. Or ask your wife's "work husband" to buy you the full heirloom set when Dutch launches it
>>539694098>Anon thinks having free time means I don't have a jobno, I just take fridays and weekends off so I can be with my kids when they get home from school, sorry you don't understand being able to have free time and it not being tied to being a jobless bum.
>>539694167oh no no, anon's made up story is coming apart at the seems!with your wife cucking you though, you do get to wear the "BBC+" discord tag with some ironic pride now though
>>539693357I didn't, one of my healer friends asked me to come tank and the group was already full - priest healer, ret, mage, hunter, me.>>539693524wdym?
>>539694423Sorry you had a shitty dad, anon. It feels nice knowing my kids will love me more than your dad ever loved you. Weird that you immediately think of cucked porn too, maybe stop projecting quite so hard.
>>539693524depends on classgood for ret and fury, bad for the other classes>>539694454the bh quest rewards(blue)
>>539694454If you see the ret again in a group and he's bitching, just ask him to post his parse before he gets any loot. Should shut them up for the whole run
So I've seen more than one person with the epic rewards from that secret BH quest chain so what gives? People are saying only one epic allowed on the server but that's obviously not true so is there some hidden mechanic in regards to what reward you're given? Is there some performance grading scale or something? Or is it just bugged out the ass?
why are they like this
>>539694780it got nerfed to blues>but its epic on my screenclear your cache, they aren't anymore
>>539694807>COOMUMRwhat did he mean by this
>>539694807>COOMUMRhuh
>>539694098Calm down
>>539695079new >>539695079
>>539694807>its not belle delphine
>>539694670I mean yeah? They're still largely better than anything else you can get available from dropos
>>539694771for what it's worth in this run both mages did 600 something, I did 350 something and he did around the 450 range consistently as well (total overall, in some fights all three spiked to 800-900 normally)
>>539694807People thought watched that mage video blog and thought it was funny and not complete autism.
>>539696894>People thought watched that mage video blogwhat does this even mean
>>539697109I had a stroke while typing and wrote a word that wasn't supposed to be there.
>>539697232which video? the one with pint?
>>539697303Yes.
Server vibes don't feel very comfy anymore tbqhLots of angry people in-game and the comfy desu guild diedGonna push these last two levels so I can troll horde with shadowmeld arcane mage then shelve this game I think, it was fun but boy was it a mess
I am so cold and tired....
