Previous: >>539633553 >NewsAgent Record | Yidharihttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/40707205Agent Record | Komano Manatohttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/40688172Agent Record | Luciahttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/40687818Version 2.2 Special Programhttps://youtu.be/-WZRmhZWcfU >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demohttps://youtu.be/-m6kXWPwllshttps://youtu.be/QKJj_AUOMTY (EN)https://youtu.be/B42cNUVgzWU (JP)https://youtu.be/yVudzVUiBBQ (EN)https://youtu.be/pqOJai2C7S0 (JP)https://youtu.be/LENKDAuyIwc (EN)https://youtu.be/67IxXAtJelE (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.2https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/159176All-New Program 09/03 - 10/14Floral Voyage Into the Unknown 09/03 - 10/13Band of Brave Bangboo 09/05 - 10/13Wish Bottle Adrift 09/05 - 09/29Spotlight Showdown 09/13 - 09/29Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 09/18 - 09/23"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/24 - 10/14Problem Soldier Boot Camp 09/24 - 10/09Rhythm Rave 09/29 - 10/13"En-Nah" Treasure Hunt 10/04 - 10/13Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/09 - 10/14 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemptionZENLESSGIFTZZZ22OBOLSQUAD >Resources and useful linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinkshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friendshttps://interknot-network.com >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
>>539671389finally a good OP
Seed is the first character I regret pulling. She feels completely useless without her shill buff.
Bunny LifeMiserable Life
well that was okay I didnt try too hard
>>539671591this is how I felt after pulling sanbyjust hold on bwo
>>539671591You don't play the game tho
>>539671591Feels good that I lost my 50/50 on her.>>539671764
Obol's last wind will be here soon. Final thoughts?
>>539671591She's genuinely the worst limited 5 star released so far. She's massively underpowered after they nerfed her in beta for absolutely no reason. It's a shame for people who pulled for her. Me included. But there's no point in building a team around her. She's easily the worst limited character in the game.
ZZZ for this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H11KXy_1xRAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H11KXy_1xRAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H11KXy_1xRA
>>539671878I hope they all go away soon.
I hope Sanby doesn't come back in 2.3 so I can fully skip.
Kill thirens. Behead thirens. Roundhouse kick thirens. Rape thirens. Burn thirens alive.
>>539671905>wuwamongols trying too hard to be edgy and seriouskek
Bunny wife!Happy life!
>>539671741I think you tried really hard but you're lying about it to justify the low scores.
I wake up tired everyday
Can we go through one fucking thread without the blatant shilling of other gacha?
>>539671878I wonder how are they planning to excise Flora after everyone shits on that mistake in the survey if she's ruining Orphie MV too
It seems that Orphie with Astral voice 4P is really good for the Seed team.(It's in Spanish)https://youtu.be/iTEuIe8lLwI?si=vtTXQhuQrg5DOUEj&t=1472
>>539672046Lol, what kind of dialog is this
>>539671878Wasted potential squad. Wasn't worth the wait.
We need a tall, muscular, tanned skin, amazon like agent.
>>539672156This.
>>539671878last two characters(especially Flora) ruined it
>>539671895>absolutely no reason. kys shillshe wasn't nerfed enough that bitch needs to be down to Nekomata levels
>>5396717413 stars except for Pompey. I should get around Buffing Koleda and Astra to maximum capacity...
>>539671591What I don't fucking get is why you fuckers are pulling for inferior electric DPS options when Yanagi exists.>rips absolute ass as both a main and sub DPS>able to counter ANYTHING with her gimmick>ball isn't required because Fusion Compiler is a match made in heaven for her>able to PENMAXX which is meta now
>>539672337because i dont care about yanagi?
>>539672337Wasn't ready for the rerun and lost the 50/50
>>539672337because i'm gay?
>>539672261True LOL
>>539671878Finally all 3 + Anby will be here.
>>539671878only troons hate Obol
>>539671986Meanwhile your story is comic relief after comic relief. Even your supposed military faction is just a bunch of bumblers.
these bangboo are about to have sex or something
>>539672337it wasn't for a lack of trying, I didn't have enough pulls to get her
Consecutive end numerals will tell how many pulls for the next agent you want.
>>539672597Literally the storyline. Boos banging is canon.
It's funny because sanby really isn't that bad but since she wasn't miyabi/anomaly tier braindead we ended up with seed getting nerfed and sanby getting buffed like this.
> Things that never happened, the squad
When do we get a collab?
I just think it's funny that /zzz/ calls people "brown" and "jeet" when a lot of ZZZ creators are black people and ZZZ itself is inspired by nigger culture and rap. Like, how funny.
>>539672337Anomaly is boring as fuck
>>539672532>what is the problem here? is comfy SOL kinomeanwhile wuwamongols tries hard to be edgy and serious lmao
JUST
>>539672714>creatorsgo fucking back
>>539672714Blacks are much higher on the hierarchy compared to pajeets.
WE GODDAMN FLOPPED
>>539672838Worst banner in the game's history.
zzz is zzzing...
>>539672714>>539672745>>539672838I agree sars
>>539672745thats yesterday today is 172
>>539672337>why aren't you rolling for dogshit NPC brick that is hard filtered the nanosecond the boss has any anomaly resistance at all
>>539672838All I see from the chart is that shit designs get shit numbers, made up or not.
>>539672337My Yanagi is chained up naked to Miyabi's throne.
>>539672337some people just cant recognize a fun kit I guess
i think it'd be cool if koleda didn't get staggered during her strings so you'd actually get to do her fast ex
>>539673005Hot
For those asking, here's your yidhari gameplay:https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1nl37cx/233_yidhariluciajufufu_m0p1_againts_98m_marionette/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
>>539672337Yanagi looks like an NPC
>yanagi>fun kitLOL
>>539672337I have both
>>539673135TRVKE
>>539673184yes, the best in the game even.
>>539672074nyo.roll another iuno dupe.
>hp inflation isnt r-
>>539672825>"W-Well black people are cool actually?"Wow... Seriously?
>>539673184they see a hot woman and have to cope with the gameplay
Tender and repeated copulation under the blessing of holy matrimony with my biker princess.
>>539672838How could a game where jumping is impossible ever hope to fly
>>539672714>I just think it's funny that /zzz/ calls people "brown" and "jeet" when a lot of ZZZ creators are black people and ZZZ itself is inspired by nigger culture and rap. >Like, how funny.>>539673279>>"W-Well black people are cool actually?">Wow... Seriously?I know you are that eula tranny from /gig/
>>539673279Black culture game, deal with it. We worship blacks here
>>539673258> Using the anomaly team on the anti anomaly bossIf anything, that just proves you haven't invested enough outside of anomaly lmao
>>539673258>>>>>>rina>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>koleda
>>539673364TRVKE NVKE
>>539673184it is
>>539671591>>539671798>>539671895>>539672337>>539672261>>539672490By the way, "they" are all this guy, who now uses chatgpt instead of copypaste
>>539673331TRVKEsadly, even when we get a jump button we'll still be lagging behind>no handholding button
If you hate black culture you hate zzz and waterkuma
>i am brown and retarded so my concept of a fun kit is holding ex to sperg on the screenyanagibrowns, not even once
>Hey, Manager, it's good to see you again! And with Ms. Banshee too! >Will you be requesting the same private screening room you used with Ms. Hoshimi and Ms. Yao the other day?
>actually make two separate basic attack strings for two separate stances>the gameplay is literally just mashing basics and sometimes pressing EX to parryzzz devs are genuinely braindeadwhy bother going through all this shit just to make such a boring character
Duet Night AbyssNeverness to EvernessAzur PromiliaAnantaHonkai Nexus AnimaChaos Zero NightmareArknights EndfieldHow will Zenless Zone Zero survive......
>>539673184The lightning storm effect in the pale wasteland event was really fun
>>539673435what a fucking loser
>>539673435But seed flopped is the truth
>>539673515but enough about ZZZ players
>>539673125Jesus, LUCIA GET YOUR SHIT OFF THE SCREEN. I can't see anything
>>539672838>>539672912>>539672914>>539672981>>539673184>>539673223>>539673242>>539673279
>>539673279Jeets are just that low.
>Orphie Ep shows her being a cold badass>meanwhile we got the cute marshmallow OrphieImagine if her ult had Magus go ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL to get a rip and tear moveset and Magus shittalking everyone.
I actually liked the pale wasteland, the level design, music and overall atmosphere was pretty sick
>wuwajeets accusing anyone else of needing hand holdinghttps://files.catbox.moe/huv2dq.webm
>>539673369they should make an attacker that is fun to play then. Right now it's only evelyn
>>539673663kekgarbage stiff animations
>>539673630It's not false advertising! Here's the one (1) scene where she's being cute!
>>539673469wrong timing for the joke my friend...
>>539673279This game plays rap when you get S rank characters man.
Sneed flopped so hard that the shill had to ask the nigger culture spammer from /v/ to join in
>>539673630>rip and tearImagine liking Zoom Eternal LOL ZZZkeks are literal soibabbies
>>539673874she beat wuwashit character tho lmao
It's not surprising you lost.W comes before Z in the alphabet after all.
>>539673435SEED FUCKING FLOPPED.
>>539673482ill only play maybe chaos zero nightmare among those but i've already learned how bad powercreep can get in turn based shit
>>539673982TRVKEM NVKEM
>>539673125I guess I'll look forward to the yidhari wipeout screens
>>539673482*Wuwalol
>>539673663jeets love hand holding so much that their footslop even has a dedicated hand holding button
>>539673435Seed isn't very good. There's no way around that. I rolled her. But she's one of the worst attackers in the game. Her damage is very low and even worse she is part of the aftershock meta but doesn't actually do aftershock. If you have Seed and are hoping Orphie will fix her you will be disappointed. Best case scenario is to accept you've lost 160+ pulls on a dud. Do not roll Orphie for Seed because she is terribly bad and doesn't work well with Orphie anyway. If you want to make an Orphie team roll SSanby. Unfavorite Seed and never use her. She is terrible. The worst character released in a mihoyo game. I can't remember a character in any hoyo game that has been this trash on release. >m0w1 Seed 8k damage>m0w0 welfare Evelyn 10k damageSeed is bad. Sorry but she's really really bad.
>>539673630isnt this like EVERY fucking character?except the one note bosses who turned ?
>xhe skipped nagi>againAHAHAHAHAOHNONONONONONONO!!!!
I wonder Sanby rerun is first or second banner
>>539672337Truly our Raiden Mei expy
Yawn-agi
don't worry guys, orphie will save the gam-ACK
>>539674286more animations than any wuwashit character lmaolook at all that fluid kino
September 19th 2025 I AM FORGOTTEN
anby vs isolde who wins?
>>539674286i will skip the bland NPC every time she's in. Actually love her on reruns, means that i don't have to think about them at all
>>539674306No one knows yet but I would expect it to be the 1st rerun banner to capitalize on any steam Obol leaves behind
>>539674448I still use her. Getting a fat 800k disorder is amazing when the boss resists ether.
>>539673125At around 0:20, there is a small animation where the tentacles block an attack.
>>539674286Cannot relate
>>539674523>he spent tapes on DOGSHIT
>>539674448>>when pompey is literally in DA right now
>>539674448I don't have Yanagi or Vivian so I use her.
>>539674559Holy shit, you're right.
>>539673843Shit...
>>539674660And? Yixuan can get rid of him
Why do people pretend skins would fix ZZZHoyo players only spend for meta, if they wanted the game to be profitable they'd speed up power creep and put more power in mindscapes
>>539674448wtf are you smoking>number 1 sex symbol in the game>only fire analmoly>popeye in DA
>my game randomly reset all of my settings (including setting display res to one that doesn't even fit my monitor lol)>?s everywhere ??????????
>>539674697nice they updated her animations, it was awkward in the past where she had the on hit animation during the charge that knocks her back and still charges up. I wonder if her gameplay is like a much faster rage blade GS monhun fight. I really dont need a new ice dps but damn she might feel good to play if they can replicate that.
>>539673125Yidhari ult looks like a 4stars.
>>539674448I rolling for Burnice or Vivian whoever reruns first
This damn mage butcher is so gay boss.
>>539672838She made .08 today so she's still on track to lose to Lighteralso I'm 100% certain ZZZ will have another Yuribait patch like AstraLyn YuzuAlicethese have been the most successful banners that the game has had that aren't the anniversarythey are going to play it safe after Seed
>>539675004>doomjeet is a yuritrannyKEKKK
i regret skipping burnice's engine on the rerun
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I don't get it. Why is Seed so weak???
>>539675134>Fully EquippedNot with that attack
>>539675080>retard doesn't know what the term yuribait meansKekkypow
what's the last time they put out a survey? I want to complain
>>539675176Because she needs Orphie. But Orphie will be a better support for literally any other aftershock attacker. Seed is weak. There's nothing else to it. If you pulled her I'm sorry for you.
Seed killed the game
>>539674448https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0PYPOVQ8RM
i pulled the useless electric girldoes she need her sig?
Komano love!
Love your family
>>539675585yes
>>539675585she's arguably the only character who doesnt work without her engine
>>539674697>https://zzz.hoyobase.com/agents/yidhari-murphy?lang=en&branch=beta>Frost's Crushing Weight>When hit by enemy attacks during the charge or spinning slash of [Basic Attack: Frostbite Embrace], you can block with your tentacles to reduce incoming DMG by 25%;Heh, only 25%. Still, "your tentacles" makes me hope she is an actual Octopus thiren.
>>539675635>>539675674ok i'm uninstalling the game
>>539675795See you tomorrow
>>539675674argue
>>539675585No. She doesn't need it. It provides 25% defence shred. So it's useless if you use it with rupture agents. It's also very low amount of def shred so it's garbage. There's this one faggot who tells people to get her sig because he's got sunk cost fallacy and wants other people to spend like him. Don't fall for it.
>>539675927i had trigger with and without her engine and the difference is night and day
>hire Shaoji>get rid of the "skip button">tailor-make new endgame bosses for new characters>release a more game breaking new agent every so 2 patches>don't release new A-ranks anymore>then, a year late, give a free S-rank in the anni>put its true potential behind its sig and/or 2 dupes>otherwise powercreep it 3 patches laterThe game would make bonkers and shit all over HSR and wuwa sales
skillissuefag hereFUCK HP INFLATION FUCK POWERCREEPFUCK DEADLY ASSAULT
>>539675992>So it's useless if you use it with rupture agentsWhat if I want to play her with Shido? Yes, I pulled that useless whore too.
>>539676105It works with her. But 25% def shred really worth pulling on the weapon banner? Fuck no. Just give her steam oven.
>>539676105ur good then
>>539675698I'll be beyond pissed if the tentacles are just coming through a portal mounted on her ass.
>>539676102Use your Evelyn on Pompey. Also, where is your electric attacker?
W= winZzz= sleep
What lessons will be learned from Seeds failure?
>>539676168Counterpoint, you can also increase Trigger's Daze application because you can actually reach the 90% crit rate cap
>>539674697I hope they're doing more animation changes in the next build, this is much better.
>>539676339Uh huh. Still not rolling.
>>539676326pedos dont have money
Simi is doing Shiyu Defence
Nagi was a stripper in college.
>>539676482>pedosThat's a hebe though
>>539676326If you're gonna do fetish pandering actually introduce the character before you release them and not their fucking cool ass weapon/accessory/robot
I'm glad they changed the bosses this time. Didn't bother trying to get a high score tho.
>>539676168Eh, I guess I'll roll her sig on the next rerun
Orphie, come out already. My Eve needs her Astra back.
>>539676168Eh guess I'll never roll that dogshit sig then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc-qRfasW0Y
Is it safe to assume that they'll buff Seed because they consider her a high expectation character?
>>539676758Forgot pic related
>>539676839
Why did I wake up feeling like installing this game that will soon die? I should've stayed asleep until ananta comes out
>>539676326The scooter is just a tad bit too silly innit?
>>539676839Cutie.
>>539677009Didn't pull seed but I think the scooter is pretty neat tho. It's probably the first character I've seen use a unique movement ability at all times in any of the current popular gacha.
>>539677170
>>539677009It really is.
>>539676910No. There won't be any buffs coming for Seed. She's bad and even with Orphie she will remain very very bad. Silver Soldier Anby is better than Seed with Orphie and that's even before buffs. Seed is dead in the water and not enough people have rolled her to demand buffs.
>>539676910They'll bring her aftershocks back before her rerun and call it a day
>>539673435The funny part is zzz will outlive him
>>539673469>Hey, Manager, it's good to see you again! And with Ms. DOGSHIT too!>Will you be requesting the same private screening room you used with Ms. Hoshimi and Ms. Yao the other day?
>>539677009it really just boils down to that
>>539676957Vivian love
5 days
>>539677893This game isn't even a gacha anymore. Leave /zzz/ out of it
>>539677893i love the complete lack of momentum
>>539677983>This game isn't even a gacha anymorethat's good news tho
>>539671591Don't worry bro i'll be asking for sneed buffs.
>>539678038simulating ZZZ's revenue
>Tries to pull Seed's ball>Games told me to go fuck myself Alright.
>>539678045I know and agree but that means it shouldn't be a game to shitpost here with. We've already got too many
Bunny cunny!
>>539676948Just swap Nicole and Astra?
>>539677893>they don't show all the worthless collectibles that they are gonna throw around
>>539677893>spiderman without spidermanFlop
>>539677983>>539678045>>539678260are you retarded? ananta is a gachaduel night abyss or w/e it was called is the one that removed gacha mechanics
>>539678456it will beat zzz then
Scrub anon hereHow do you tell apart red and yellow flashes? They happen to quickly and I always fuck up by pressing the wrong button (dodgr instead of parry and vice versa)
>>539678394>content is bad
>>539678594sometimes you can tell by watching the animation like when the large Hollow Raider pulls out his shotgun
Whats the point of shilling a gacha here when there is MAX 25-30 anons in the thread. You'll get better reception on r*ddit.
>>539678594they have different colors
>>539677893Kek at the booth placements
Every upcoming big-budget gacha game looks like a chore.
>>539677098Squeeze the puppy cheeks
>>539678302Eh, it's fine. When I get Orphie, I'll redo pompey with Eve/Astra anyways
>>539678594Turn off damage numbers and you will actually be able to see whats happening
Men look at this creature bred for war and say "C6W5"
king of the summit or shadow harmony for trigger
>Yenless Yen Zero
>>539679168More like M0W1, but yes>>539679195KoTS unless you have a dual stunner comp where the other one is already using KoTS
>>539678394This is why I'm never touching another Open World Gacha game again after Genshin and Wuwa. Combing over the entire map for what feels like pocketchange is the most tedious content.Create another hack n slash Gacha that isn't Open World and I might give it a go
>>539678619>collectibles>content go play spooderman
>>539679114It's a mandatory activity.
>just discovered the challenge mode versions of the commissionsHoly fuck I just ignored this tab for the last year. How many rolls are in here?
>>539679195Both since you'll be farming both, and >>539679330
>>539679236I used to like you and your orbiter until I found out that one of you is trans + you're in a discord together which turns your cute banter here into massive attention whoring.
man Komano personal damage feels like shit rn compare to v1reason why Lighter/Orphie wheelchair is his best team
>>539678594Animations, color and sound cues. Theres actually a limited amount of red flashes,. most of the time red flashes appear when: You don't have a character that's able to counter the boss move (IE you're only running defensive assist characters vs a move that needs evasive assist or vice versa).You don't have assist points.Your assist that was going to counter the move is busy getting knocked down or doing a move on field.
>>539676910she just needs Orphie. Anyone with a brain expected that.
>>539679737the problem is that orphie is her bis but she isnt orphies bis
>>539679737Then why does Sanby, Orphie, Trigger team do more damage and better scores in DA than Seed, Orphie, Trigger?
oh boy orpheus is going to flop horrifically and i think that will be the last we ever see of obol squadwhat do you niggas think
>>539679942Poo in Loo
>>539679669so you're saying that i can pull orphie instead and not bother with lucia if i want to use him as main dps?
>>539676910I don't care if they will or won't, the agenda will continue until im satisfied, i asked for Sanby buffs and got them.
>>539679942Satisfying ending for the flops squad, hope it’s the last we ever see them too.
>>539679871Do you have stats? Pre-Buff S-Anby shouldn't be doing better than Seed in the same comp. Post Buff S-Anby should though (if not equal)
>>539679942IM GONNA COOOOMCERNNNN
>>539679871>>539680015It's another option in case you don't want or have sanby for whatever reason jesus christ are you people this addicted to shitposting?
>>539680065She is though. See >>539672103Sanby comps pre buff are doing way more damage than Seed comps with the same setup.
>>539679857>>539679871>no dataok
>>539673482I'll be playing HSRZZZReverse 1999DNAand Enfield.
Twiggy smiles upon these Anby buffs from Anby heaven.
I was going to skip Lucia, until I saw the size of her shitter, but then they did their commie shit so now I'll skip her officially.
>>539680247>then they did their commie shitwhat...?
>>539680003Lucia is the main DPS comp for him but his numbers are really underwhelming, so he ends up relegated to being a good Orphie aftershock driver.The damage distribution is like 30/70 between him and Orphie both getting gigabuffed by Lighter so like he’s not even the main DPS there.
>>539680247shut up retard
>>539680457i seewhat's the third slot for his lucia team?
>>539680247>t. americanWhy are americans obsessed with nigger ass?
>>539680618why are you obsessed with americans?
>>539680537As of now it’s Jufufu but her generalist buffs are kinda whatever for him, so he’s heavily gimped until they release a niche stunner like Lighter but for rupture.
>>539680192Are they though? Seed /Trigger / Orphie ranges from 55k to 60k where S-Anby is doing ~51k, which is nearly 10% worse.
Does the panda feel like shit to everyone or is it a skill issue? Maybe I just need to throw energy regen on him, it feels like he never has enough EX to keep up with pulchra.
>>539680723>I LOVE NIGGER ASS!>why?>OMG WHY YOU OBSESSED WITH ME!?SYBAU your bitch ass up Tyrone or Zach or whatever retard mutt name you've got.
>>539680247based
>>539680832are you niglords for real tho this is my first try and i'm not even tryhardingdeadly assault is not that hard, i will panic once miyabi starts failing
>>539681159nta but can you posts your disc stats and substats for burnice since I feel like I built mine wrong or atleast mediocrely
>>539679628wait seriouslythat's fucking cringe why interact here then
>>539681159I wasn't bitching about it being hard, I'm fine with my comfy 6 stars.I asked about panda being clunky, but maybe this is just a lack of synergy between him and pulchra? You seem to be using Lucy instead.
Zenless died when they started focusing on ass instead of boobs.
>>539681454Next patch has the biggest rack since Rina
>>539680827This is sanby pre buff. Post buff with the same set up she will shit on seed. There's no point in ever using seed with orpheus.
>>539674808And Miyabi can literally kill Pompey, so why should I bother with Yi Xuan?
>>539681454So from 1.0?
>>539680457Given how the Lucia/Fufu/Komano team performs, I'd argue the damage output on the Lighter/Orphie/Komano team is closer to maybe 10%/45%/45%. He's got some good damage spikes during the Stun Window for example, due to his kit actually have some special Stun interactions.I'll agree he's very much not "the carry" on the team, though. Everyone on the team contributes about the same amount of value, which is kind of novel.
>>539671389Zhu yuan is the second hottest zzz girlYou know I'm right
>>539680832get energy regen fosho, he has 1 job.
>>539673469Umm you must have mistaken me for someone else...
>>539681307i don't think this will be any help to you my burnice is not a standard anomaly build i have good 1:2 crit ratio on her
>>539681517I know its S-Anby pre buff and she's performing worse than Seed + Orphie as I expected but the other anon was saying Pre buff S-Anby was still better than seed while citing the chart which doesn't make sense.If you don't have S-Anby, then you always use oprhie with Seed and might as well skip the rerun.
>>539671878I really enjoyed the story Honestly the story in zzz isn't that shit as people claimAt least it keeps moving forward and stuff happens Unlike the unspeakable game with the other foot sloot I literally started to hate her more because the msq was literally just about her, absolute dog shit writing Instead sneed in zzz was done wonderfully and the msq as wellI literally loved sneed even more after her companion quest, really well done, nothing too dramatic but it was well executed If this level of quality continues we are eating very goodThe obol arc until now was absolute kino (yes it wasn't perfect but nothing is perfect) and only the most mentally ill deranged troons will tell you otherwise Overall it was well made
>>539671389Hi
Defiler? I hardly knew her.Boy do I suck at her.
>>539682132Buffed sanby will be better than seed in an orphie team though. Considerably better. We're talking about a 15% increase over what she's doing in those graphs.
>>539671878I only like Trigger and Orphie. I like the original S11, but not what they've turned her into now.
>>539682342>we're talking about a 15% increaseshut up you flunked math, low IQ bitch
>>539674221Zzz is in a very solid position Wuwa is eating shit hard now unless they release a good story, characters alone can't carry their game despite being extremely high quality
>>539682342Unless you really like both, there's not really a world that you need both though practically speaking. Seed pullers are just going to have to sit with Seed
>>539682616not right now, youtube views and mobile sales rankings are looking dire
>>539682616Wuwa has had hit after for story if you're not going to reddit,>>539681898Might go for the energy regen 2 piece and chuck out the attack disc for it, yeah. His buffs don't matter for shit if they're never up.
>>539682661>Seed pullers are just going to have to sit with the worst limited DPS in the gameYeah.
>>539682714Honkai impact is still alive Don't worry, genshin players will pay for our game
>>539682661Yeah, chingers could have made Seed Physical and Orphie and actual support. Nah lets make everyone attackers KEK.fucking retards
>>539682734>Wuwa has had hit after for storywhat?
>>539677009Rollerskates would be cool, a hoverboard or flying disc could be cool. I don't think the scooter is cool, and I don't really think a skateboard would work out too well either.
i'm getting brain damage from reading those esl posts
>>539682734I might check that shits hole but the msq was literally an entire advertisement for that new released whoreAn entire update with msq dedicated to that whore I already disliked her and it only made me hate her more I guess I'm the extremely small minority
>>539682814Orphie being off-field Attack agent means she's the bridge Lighter needs to work with Rutpure, which I'm quite happy about.
holy NSFW warning
>>5396828152.4, 2.5, and now 2.6 have all been exactly what everyone who played the game wants. If you don't like it, that's fine, but it's in a comfy groove for those who do. Barring >somehow, leviathan has returnedwearing out its welcome.Not to shit on ZZZ, of course. I haven't done 2.2's story but I thoroughly enjoyed 2.0's after the shitshow that was hugo's fever dream. 2.1 was serviceable, if not extremely trope heavy.>>539682960They do tend to promote the character on banner, yeah. I feel that, though, I had to suffer through chinese banshee wailing for an entire patch, and my favorite character in this game is attached at the hip to it.
bwos... defiler kicked my butt.
>>539683121>I thoroughly enjoyed 2.0's after the shitshow that was hugo's fever dream. 2.1 was serviceableyour brain on wuwa
>>539683238kiss
>>539683070cute feet
>>539683246>actually I am le super science cult baby who has the magic blood, I will let myself be a slave so people don't find this sewer that has been undetected for like a decade somehowI loved the beach story stuff way more, but 2.1's main story was kind of shit. At least Shifu gets some type of closure.
>>539683121Oh yeah, Hugo's part was... Yeah...I memory holed that partProbably even skipped most of it I didn't Hugo and I didn't like Vivian, personality wise and design
>>539683408Her skin was the only skin worth purchasing beside the swimsuit for the only anal characters but since I don't have them I don't have the skinsAlso the skin really accentuates how wide her hips are and how huge her ass and you always see it giggle and in the wipeout screen you always her butt cheeks This woman is extremely lewd
GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT ZAYM THIS SCRUMPTIOUS PAWG
Would having handholding sex with Orphie be classified as pedophilia?She's 11 years old after all
>>539684165How does magus feel watching a clone of her body getting fucked?
>>539683859It sold me on getting her weapon, funny enough.The gold doesn't really stand out on the normal skin, but with all black, the gold layer beneath is insane.If Evelyn wasn't in the game, shifu would be the sexiest, no contest.
>>539681514????????>>539681628Zhu Has both big ass and big boobs. Everyone in 2.x has modest or small boobs.
Why does Seed (and feet) invoke such anger in some people?
>>539684369>Everyone in 2.x has modest or small boobs.
>>539684369>Everyone in 2.x has modest or small boobs.Bro, your Manato?
>>539671389Any idea where can i get HQ Mindscape wallpapers?Also how come Obol Squad is the only faction has the sexiest Mindscapes?
If Yid's DPS comes from her charged basic, then her ideal disk set would something like 4 shifudisk + 2 Seedisk
>>539683859>>539684347i like this better
>>539684031anyone that doenst think this is the hottest bodytype in the game is a STUPI DFUCK9ING LOW CLASS NIGGER THAT WANTS SHORT MALOURISHED FREAK SONS
>>539677893The number one thing that hurts ZZZ (on charts) is that it sucks on mobile, how is Ananta going to be any better on that front?
>>539684574Smaller than Zhu, Yanagi, Ceasar, Grace.>>539684578Who?
The number one thing that hurts ZZZ is that it's on mobile
>>539684369>Everyone in 2.x has modest or small boobs.Yixuan, Alice and soon Yidhari are stacked.
>>539684678I do have ZZMI, I should start doing mods more often. Link?
>>539684031>>539684684Yeah but she's blind and I can't get over my ableist discriminatory desire to look into women's eyes
>>539684281I want Magus to give me a clanker blowjob
>>539684835Also, Orphie is quite gifted too.
>>539684930You can still do that, dumbo.
>>539684769I play all my gachas on pcI literally use my phone to shit post on the chan and that's itBut why people compare ananta to zzzThey are two different gamesZzz is not even open worldAre they retarded or just paid shilling?
>>539685194No I can't. She's covering them up with a fucking mask.
>>539685467I'm surprised her ult wasn't reverse Soukaku where she takes off her mask to see some weakspot or something. Maybe in a lesser game.
Who is the most homophobic zenless character?
>>539685194>>539685467i didn't play her story how does it work does she fuck up anything she sees or what or are they just freaky, if latter don't see why she wouldn't remove her mask for her husband you idiot
>>539685675Her eyes are straight up corrupted and horrifying.
>>539685771nothing is horrifying aobut your wife
>>539685771They're her eyes, if you can't look at your waifu's horrifying eyes what can you do? Love her you certainly can't.
Damn. 29k is the best I can do. Go on without me until Orphie comes out
>>539684835Literally All of them are 2 sizes smaller than the smallest tit cow in 1.x.>Jewhari She could have been the first character for white men in 2.0. Then She was changed to appeal to niggers.
I'M SICK OF WAITINGSNEED'S SLOW ASS BANNER IS KILLING THE GAME ORPHIE'S SLOW ASS BANNER WILL BE KILLING THE GAME JUST RELEASE ZHAO ALREADY DAWEIIIII
Shifu and beer
>>539686256Now post the comparison with the bigger tits
>>539686452Literally canon
>>539686452Cute couples
>>539686452Why is Yuzuha so hot, bros?
trigger is genuinel;y such a pure sex design her body is literally perfect and the design although I initially discarded it as "lol she looks like a nikker" or being too simplistic is just simple enough to be classy WITHOUT BIENG OVERDESIGNED or doing all this kinda asymetrical chatgpt bullshit hoyo is known for its beliavalbe, grounded, and her hair color is that of an aryan blonde goddess not some fuckin cotton candy space purple puke green hair color the hairstyle is so classy too busted literally DOZENS of times more than any other ZZZ char to this queen
This is how a real zzz woman should look like.
Trigger schizo is at least not the worst to have to deal with, I guess.
>>539686823Way too big.
>>539686924Way too ideal.
>>539686063>>539683070hmmm? sanby buff is not increasing score by more than 10k alone
Wait, is Moonlight Lullaby better than Astral Voice on Astra?
bwos...all of soldier's perfect basic attacks should count as a heavy attack...
>>539686063Post soukaku build so I can steal it.
>Trigger: We're going to kidnap Phaethon, lock i'm up in a dungeon, and take turns raping him>Orpheus: ...>Orpheus: No one can know about this>Trigger: But of course
Lucia would be better if they committed to occult goat and made her fem-Baphomet.
>>539686850sadly i don't even own trigger since i skipped sanby just fap to her and she has become my favorite design in the game, we need more such "Grounded" designs no more fucking onesie spats please enoughbut yknow what I'll go and throw a few rolls rn and maybe dawei gives me my wife early because i love her
>>539687249Universally no, but he's probably doing something specific for a team build
Lucia would be better if they deleted her from the game
DA kicked my ass again.I love this game.
will the buffs make sanby good? do i need to buy seed or orphie for sanby?
>>539684031I look like this
Stop making me want to pull Trigger.
>>539687249Only if another team member is holding Astral.
She is very fun to play.
>>539687660> S-Anby was "okay" before> S-Anby will be a strong option now> Orphie will skyrocket her potential damage output (and is much better for S-Anby then Seed)Grab an orphie and you'll do alright
>>539687604but look at thisname 1 other character that looks this sexy just in the idle standing pose10/10 birthing hipsglorious healthy lucious aryan goddess hair its so fucking thick it literally has 0 gaps or frizz to it, an indication of superior genesperfect toned belly but without having abs or anything closet homo like thateyepatch instant coolness factorequipment itself grounded without feeling too cartoony or too Battlefield-y basically just balanced and well made gotta go choke one more out before i rolll
>>539679236Go read your mangas since you finish the yandere one instead of shitposting here all day!!!!
>>539687085Perhaps his Flora has better disks or there are mindscapes involved. I still don't understand that boss very well.She has very high baseline because she barely cares about her partner.
isn't trigger kinda shit bros? i don't have sanby.
>>539687882Well, Seed is not a aftershock character so it's just fair.
WHY THE FUCKISN'T SHIFUFOR (YOU)????
>>539688378same but I'll save her for the future or just roll sanby, don't plan to roll orphie or seed (don't like seed gameplay) so I'm good
>>539672074>>539673242>>539672745>>539672729you know is the usual audience scared their new character didnt do well, they claimed everyone was saving for iuno when their mavuika copy flopped big time, now their ishtar copy is doing half of mavuikas copy oof, they turbo marketed both everywhere even bus stops.
>>539688378Trigger is a good generalist but needs more investment than other units. M0W1 is great for most Attacker / Anomaly teams where M1W0 is good for most Attacker / Rupture teams but M0W0 is only marginally better than M6W5 pulchra.
>>539684957
>>53968708529k isn't the ceiling with that team so it doesn't matter and the last buff was worse than the current one so you can probably 40k with this team this rotation.
>>539688517All I'm getting from this is that feet don't sell and that you should never pander to footfags because they're just a vocal minority.
>>539688335well, isnt she like a decent battery for seed at least? anton can't even do that.
>>539688761
>>539688517But why iPhone sales? Is it really a massive part of the playerbase?
>>539688958basically yes, remember when nikke footfag character released? it was a flop too
>>539689101I CAN SEEEEEE IT
>>539686315
>>539689120in asia it is, everyone has an iphone because is a status thing, they also spend a lot of time outside because of the work culture so they do mobile games, literally the reason gachas are massive in asia and most gachas dont have a console or pc release, you literally have fgo and other games with no other platforms doign stupidly high revenue just from jp.
My fvarkin heroes
is heartstring nocture good on orphie
Opinions?
>>539689390It's her best option after her own engine.
>>539689443Seedflopped not only in sales but also meta
I must skip her
>>539688868Post Sanby. I can believe that the 10k is honestly just skill issue but gotta compare
>>539689443Are the numbers mindscapes?
I finally hit 20k
skipping until angels of delusion.
>>539689443ORPHIE sucksssss
>>539689315You're talking games in general, and sure as hell most of them don't look or play like these.
On Yanagi's ball, does the 375 condition include the 75 anomaly proc bonus in?
>>539689443orpheus as expected is terrible, she should be a support not attacker class
>play M0W1 Seed/M0W1 Trigger + a cope nekomata>Completely steamrolling everything with braindead mash>Open up /zzz/>SEED SUCKS TRASH WASTED ROLL AIEEEEEwhat the fuck are you niggers on
>>539690009Agenda posting as per usual
I haven't been keeping up, why are my DA scores lower than normal?
>>539690009Seed is great, she clears her disc set stage in like 12 seconds. And that one only buffs aftershocks.
>>539690009>>539690172
>>539690245Different buffs + HP inflation muchacho
>>539689924How does that make a difference? Different balls I guess.
>>539689443>the guy who claimed Qingyi was worse than bitch basic AnbyI will totally believe this man
>>539690245The buffs are weaker and the bosses have a bit more HP.You may also be using the wrong teams, that seems to happen a lot.
>>539690403If she was a supporter, you'd slap on Lucy's / Nicoles ball and call it a day
>>539689315Like 20% of phones in asia are iPhones.
>>539688517You're comparing day 3 revenue to day 15 revenue, nice self own lmao. Just 2 more days to be fully humiliated btw. I'll be sure to spam this general when Iuno surpasses SEED complete revenue in less than a week dw.
>>539690495That one guy using evelyn on the fuckin defiler instead of pompey really gives some insight into why these threads are the way they are.
>>539680192>>539672103>Sanby comps pre buff are doing way more damage than Seed comps with the same setup>Orp-San-Tri>51045>Seed-Orp-Tri>60234Bro...
>>539689642I don't remember what discs she had last rotation and don't have one set but whatever I calculate to work best with the current buff. I can post the current one but I ran exactly ONE Defiler after changing some discs by eye that she was running for Shiyu so I doubt this will help you.
Sadly, Fufu, Lucy & S11 isn`t enough for PompeySadly, Caesar, Burnice & Jane isn`t enough for PompeyAlmost had Notorious B.I.G. with Vivan, Soukaku & Miyabi. Maybe because my Soukaka is Crit Build and not AnomalySeed is not Nicche anymore because i already have enough Units where she somehow Fits. Hope for more 4* good Attack Units. Maybe Rokudo.
>>539690619If you can 20k Pompey with another team, Eve is good to get 20 on another.
>>539690619Out of all the DA screenshots today like 3 weren't done by obvious browns dogshit at the game
>>539690619>I gOt MY 6 StaRS!
>>539690861Which DA screenshots in this thread were posted by, according to you, "browns dogshit at the game.
>>539690784Let me guess, Defiler? A boss tailor made for Seed? Nice argument.
>>539690619Yeah, and then using an Anomaly team against red Pompey.You'd think people would learn to read descriptions by now.
>>539687496Yes but mihoyo fucking sucks
>>539690861I liked that one screenshot with okay Monoice Butcher but sub 20k premium Eve team on Pompey.
Every Deadly Assault cycle I dread that I won't be able to get 9 stars.Every Deadly Assault cycle it takes me <30 minutes to get 9 stars.It's actually so shrimple bros.
>>539691036the first one is literally two posts above can't be bothered mass replying all the dogshit screenshots
>>539690495hp buff for the same old bosses? Odd, and weaker buffs I guess that's why I can barely reach 30k
Would further increasing damage in the stun window unbrick stunners?
>>539691040>Let me guess, Defiler? A boss tailor made for Seed? Nice argument.????When did this robot grow boobs and change its name?
>>539691272Heh, I am content with 8 stars.
>>539691272Bros maybe its time i stopped asking for harder content every survey.
>>539691431No because it would benefit non stunner teams too.
>>539690596lemao as if most revenue wasnt made in the first 3-4 days thats absolute cope, the truth is everyone hyped iuno afetr augusta flopped, iuno flopped harder despite everyone claiming iuno was the character everyone was actually waiting for, and both of them are meta characters while seed isnt meta at all lmao still shes competing with them on a dry patch vs wuwa shilled story characters that got massive marketing and appearance on msq, they are both the main characters of this patches while seed is just a side character.
>>539691330Yes, you can. If you have as strong an opinion as that then you care enough to mass reply. Put some effort in, white man, don't be a lazy bum.
I'd love to know the actual percent of the playerbase that engages with endgame modes in the hoyo games.I know we have the literal 1% talking about how easy the game is, but I can't imagine it's more than like 20% of people who actually engage with the endgame.
>>539690351Bruh I'm literally facerolling automashing everything to death with seed and orphie isn't even out yetWhat are you on
What did my rat wife Jane Doe mean by this?
WU
First try scores.
>>539691445if they didn't fix that dogshit boss it's bad for SAnby because her attacks autoaim into the body instead of breaking legs. UCC is only worth it to cheese with Yixuan who damages all legs at once unless they specifically plop ether resist to stop that
>>539691683on ps5 less than 10% of the playerbase has cleared floor 10 of abyss according to stats, you get the archievement if you login on the platform from pc so yeah is very low, and we are talking about genshin the easiest of the 3 to clear endgame.
>>539691683If you get all 9 stars (i.e., 20k each), you're already in the top ~35% of players who engage with the end game.
>>539691774I don't think your body is supposed to turn that far around
>>539688190Stop shitposting all day on YYZ and pay attention to your work!!!Are you going to pull for the tentacle girl??
>>539691774Ai Sloppa-kun, how is she wearing the sunglasses?
>>539689443Where is S11?
>>539691793>newest patch is higher on daily rankingsremember your current character has been stablished on msq for 2 patches and is a main character while seed came out from nowhere at the last second on this patch and is competing with it rn on sales despite all wuwa shilling, marketing and streamers sponsored to push it lmao iuno still cant surpass seed on sales yet and is doing less than augusta
>>539691848I wonder when is Pan's next rerun. Would they put him with Manato next or with Murphy later?
>>539692118A band you can't see because of the hair obviously
>>539692118Rat magic
Defiler is such a shitty fight. Got her 3* last week but only 18.5k this week. Way too much time in the air, way too much assist spam for crap damage. Two full interludes where she's untouchable wasting like 20sec+ of time. A shill boss just for Seed and you barely even fight it, just react to assists. What horrible design.
>>539680835Zach is one of the whitest American names, you stupid fuck.
>>539691774promiscuity is unattractive however Jane would never do this
>>539692205>dailythats the montly rankingYou may now copeWU
>>539692379I did 20k both times thanks to Sanby. I will never pull for SNEED.
>>539692379>shill buff taken and SAnby buff given instead>sneed is immediately worthlessL M A O
>>539692167Why would you run S11 alongside Sanby lol
>>539691793as expected
>>539691620Youwillbehumiliatedlikealways
I can't even break 40k with seed this time. Literal got fucking scam by buffs last season wtf can I do a charge back? This literally fits false advertising imo.
>>539692379I do think this is the worst boss they've made (for DA specifically) with WAY too many invincibility windows that just wastes the timer. I can only get 25k with SEED and even last week I couldn't get that high
>>539692574But she seems to be doing fine accoding to screenshots.
>>539692604Because that's how the game should have worked is the devs had soulRetcon the fuck out of 1.6 and buff S11 to be her BIS
>>539671905we lose on the 27th....
>>539692379You'd probably do better if you didn't spam assists. Just do it with your stunner when it's not part of a mechanic.And she doesn't even have anything specific to Seed, she's just weak to electric.The mechanics also give you more points than you'd get just senselessly beating the boss.
Why did they release seed in this weak state?
>>539692857Read the description, you only get buffs from DA. Jesus no wonder why people can't hit 2 stars anymore
>>539692846Imagine this as a team-up install ultimate for S11 and sanby... bros we lost...
best cope engine for trigger?
>>539693173Fossil.
>>539692379I love the Defiler fight. cozy af, free 5k points, attacks are very readable.You don't need to parry everything either, just dodge counter for days.
>>539692857I got past the 20k mark last cycle with a bit of effort. I'm doing the mechanics right, relfecting the air slash back, breaking the wave thing and assist parry the soliders. I get max mechanics so its not that hard. just she spams so much and trying to attack through stuff just gets me killed to retry. Granted I'm doing this with Haru/Trigger so I'm on element and have aftershock. But fuck if she doesn't just zoom all over, barely letting me do any sort of rotation unless she's stunned and then the stun window is shortened just cause.
I just won my first 50/50
>>539693385Bri you didn't roll for seed right???
>>539693209i guess its time to grab 5 more copies from the store then
>>539692812Dw bwo when they do to her what they did to Miyabi you will be scrapping for the 20k.
>>539693385Nice, the last 50/50 I won is Astra back in January
>>539693498What did they dop to Miyabi? She's back with butcher and anomaly buff. You are not entitled to Miyabi weak boss every DA.
>>539692082I'm probably skipping!!! I'm might just hold out until idols!!!
>>539693092You don't absolutely need the full buff if you're losing damage while chasing it.>>539693336I get you, I was using Haru as well. It's hard to get used to him who doesn't have any iframes on his main damage source compared to other brainless characters.Are you using Seed or a support? Both Caesar and Astra would probably have good results for your survivability.
>>539693441I love her
My dick is too small to ever please someone like Nicole or Jane
Evelyn best set is astra now correct?
>>539672103Yeah, It's better because you want to use Orphie's on-field EX instead of let her use it off-fieldThis cost 5 team cleared UCChttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1D1przGEZ6/Seed01 / Orphie01 / Astra00 (gameball)
>>539693829Be more confident anon
>>539688517You know these "flops" are still very profitable, right? They're just not home runs.
>>539693764I don't have seed. I ran Haru/Trigger and either M1 Rina or Nicole with same results. Eve/Caesar/Astra are my Pompey team.
>>539693829Nicole is literally the biggest virgin in the entire game.
>>539693963>sneed>profitable>with all the marketing and shill damage controllmao
>>539693829this but Zhao...
I enjoy the defiler fight
>>539671389Holy based OP
>>539693829Saar :(
As the best player here i can confidently say this is by far the worst DA season yet with the worst buffs imaginable.
>>539693829Nicole is the purest maiden in the game.
What ifZhao is an attackerbutShe's a purely off field attacker specifically made to enable Lighter for ice units in the same manner as Lighter/Orphie
>>539693963These retards really think it costs billions of USD every month to maintain a mobile game, anon. Don't waste your breath.
>>539694378Still rolling
>>539693982I see. Caesar is a pretty good stunner against bosses that are easy to parry, and the Defiler is weak to physical for whatever reason.If you had another stunner for Eve, you could balance that team's excess ATK while moving Caesar to the other team.Though I'd assume you don't have neither limited fire stunner, and Leda is rather weak even if she stuns fast.
>>539692846They are never going to do anything with S11. Obol patch proved that. She had 10 lines and was irrelevant. Nekomata will never appear again.Rina and Koleda in unvoiced events.Lycaon will get voiced main story scenes and continue to knot your throat. Also gets a new limited S Rank version.
>>539694075I will defile this monster hag
>>539694378I'll get her no matter what i just want to see her cute face and take her on a date
>>539671389They really pulled a fast one on me with Zhu in the beginning. I wasn't expecting characters to match her quality, but they've really been shit since.
>>539692846Allow me to backtrack a bit. Astra was the first attempt at making the dual attacker team work. By making both attackers gain buffs through her own QA. Sadly, it didn't work as they intended, since having a mega stunner like Lighter or Qingyi provided a bigger buff while dazing the fuck up of the boss.This is why Seed provides Astra level buffs, so the team can get both attackers and a stunner to gap the stun windows.Hugo, on the other side of the attacker spectrum, was made to disregard Astra, instead using 2 stunners to get quick stuns and totalize.Still a shame that S11 have absolutely no synergy with Sanby and the rest of the squad. Maybe Seed a little.
>Have 99% crit-rate on S-Anby with full set stacksPart of me still wants that 100, because of how silly high her crit damage can go. If I add Fufu, her crit damage would get close to fucking 400% bonus damage on her aftershocks... missing that crit would be BAAAD. And even without her, it's easy to get 300%.Brings me back to a certain other game's support that causes this problem with anyone you pair her up with.
>>539694378Anon, why would I roll for meta instead of love?
>>539694838>Have 99% crit-rate on S-Anby with full set stacksWhy? She gets a free 10 something crit rate from her had skill. You are over capping her.
>>539694765>Still a shame that S11 have absolutely no synergy with Sanby and the rest of the squad. Maybe Seed a little.Her only synergy with seed is enabling her buff as a second attacker. They don't even work against the same bosses. It's terrible what they did to S11
>>539694935That is all part of the calculation. Her screen shows 77%. 22% from set and passive.
>>539690596>day 3 revenue to day 15 revenue,Everyone knows most of the revenue is made on the first 2 days, bro.>>539688958It's called throwing them a bone and giving non-footfags time to save so they whine less about gibs.>>539672729Unfortunately, WuWa panders hand to teenagers who think they are more mature than other teenagers.>>539688517Augusta is Iuno's dedicated duo, so their sales correlate with each other.However, everyone's probably saving for Chisa and the others.Also>mfw the 4 stars on banner are still the same as launch>>539692732The thing is that there's already been humiliation since WuWa is no longer compared to Genshin since it's already clear which one came out on top.
>>539692118pince nez
>my only real physical fire unit for pompey is S11>yuzuha is already on the butcher so can't cheese with burnice/piper/herwelp, waiting for Orphie to 3 star that nigga I guess
>>539695259Just use your Yixuan team on Pompey.
Seed killed the hype.
man is iron, rice is steel
>>539695259Just 3-star it with S11>>539695005Use Nicole and use different discs.
>>539695149chixia you are the worst tutorial girl.sex with yangyangmarriage with baizhi
which one would you rather be interrogated by?
>>539695297fufu is on Isole, I didn't level up the panda
>>539695314Sex
>>539695375Is this how they interrogate? If yes, the Jane. If no, then Zhu.
>genshin's new update reinvigorated the game>ZZZ's new update killed the gameTake note whoever is in charge of ZZZ : you MUST release the not-russia quarter of New Eridu next if you want to save your game
>>539695314https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/en/posts/QERNO45v0MD
>>539694765>Still a shame that S11 have absolutely no synergy with Sanby and the rest of the squadI think she's getting an alt soon. Why? because they devs said:>At the same time, there are also other skilled members of Obol Squad honing their talents to deal with the threats hidden in the hollowsright after announcing Sanby's buffs
>>539695493Season 3 will still fail to recapture the magic of season 1.
Yanagi? My wife
>>539695493Sorry buddy but we're getting the Amish next season.
>>539695493the problem with ZZZ is that it half-asses everything>we're going to China!>just kidding it's just one street with some chinese inspiration and a few normal looking characters but with chinky names.>here's Obol, a rugged military faction to break the habit a bit!>just kidding it's just more cute girls with cute girl personalities.>here's Seed, a unique character that's actually a big robot!>just kidding it's just another cute girl with a prop robot.
>>539695005Isn't it fine, you basically have your crits most of the time.
>>539695823>have m3w3 S11>have to roll for her new S rank if I want her to synergize with her teamHilarious
For anyone who cares about the wolf boy https://youtu.be/ptGEjRebiLQ?si=55ADEgxU_m9LDe6J
>>539696141sorry sis i'm not gay
>>539696141thanks bro i'm bisexual
>>539694763Is she a brick I want to pick her on the rerun She's so much fucking sex and she needs a skin that makes her even more of a whore
>>539696343She's fine with Seed/Astra
>>539696343Would be cool if she gets a skin and a buff.
Who walks around like this unironically? I need to move there https://youtube.com/shorts/34cPbcpRPUA?si=lBqSzkUAQEM6teNh
>>539696343she is a brick
>>539695493But Nod Krai is not-Binland, do you really want a spurdo thiren that bad?
>>539696141>everyone is S6and no shits given for whale speedruns.
>>539695493Funny you say that, because fuck did I get reminded why I dropped Genshin really fast.It all started okay with the last Natlan Archon Quest, showing a bit about the twins. But then it went to Mondo, and HOLY FUCKING SHIT was that "Intermission" Quest a stinking pile of garbage. It was so fucking bad I don't even.The precursor to Nod Krai was meh, and luckily not a sign for what's to come, as the actual quests there were a bit better. Not the best Genshin ever was, but good enough.Now then. The new area they added last patch and is the first patch cycle end area not immediately removed? WHY DID THEY NOT REMOVE THIS PILE OF GARBAGE. It plays so fucking awful, it can't have been tested. And the Nod Krai event was also extremely lackluster.The moment Genshin enters any "non main-story" territory it falls apart so fucking hard. Meanwhile here these stories are better. Fucking Seed's character quest was much better than the (still okay) mainstory of this patch. ZZZ really feels like it's made with somewhat older players playing here and there, considering the messages and such. Weird because it looks like a ZZZoomer game and they even removed TV for those. This weird story direction doesn't make much sense, could've just kept the TV to filter ZZZoomers completely and be done with it.
>>539696097Well, it was expected ever since they made Sanby be part of "Silver Squad", so it's a matter of time for Harin to get her Silver Squad alt
>>539695371>Just 3-star it with S11gave it a try but I'm lacking a real team. Lucy is ok, but I doubt caesar can suffice as a stunner
>>539675004what site is this from by the way, i asked before but never got an answer
>>539696595I'll take the poor 2.2 main story over Seeds mary sue character shit.
>>539696141Manato is a dog.
>>539696727>mary sueKEK you don't play this game
>>539695375Qingyi
>>539696727you don't know what a mary sue is
>>539696628You now know why Orphie is fire despite it being counter-intuitive in a Sanby team.
Still waiting for Zhao and the Idols.
Harin will get a buff.>SourceMy GUUUUUT
>>539696628Soon
>>539696857>>539696869Yep hit the nail on the mark. Soon as you call her for what she is, idiots get pissed.
>>539696590Whales are subhuman And most of the time are poorfags with severe gambling addiction Truly the lowest of the scum And the whales running the servers is a meme, they are just a small minority majority people are just low spenders
>>539696628SS11, fire rupture?
>>539688761if you impregnate magnus with a boy would he be a son of a gun?
>>539673435lmao this anti-current banner shill needs to rope himself this is so pathetic. imagine malding at some anime women in a chinese anime casino simulator
>>539697157>>539696903They even showed us that she also knows how to dual-wield.and I know it's impossible, but it would be cool af if she was Fire/Electric
>>539696727You're a troll arguing in bad faith I genuinely hope you're hit by a bicycle
>>539672337yuck no thanks yanagi is for trannies
>>539697380Holy moly, it's the king of povertypig fragility lmaoIt even tried to defy actual spending distributions lmfao
>>539697228Mary Sues are loved and admired by everyone for no reason at all just for being their amazing selves, and the world contorts itself to allow them to do everything they want flawlesslyEveryone but OBOL squad thinks SEED is weird and creepy, and it is made very clear that everything she is, she owes it to her father figure
What have we learned from Seed gigaflopping?
>>539697636>Spend hundreds on a character when I could get literally dozens of new games alone or anything elseYou're literally a gambling addict I will never whale out of principle you absolute fucktardYou still need to pay that rent out
>>539697712Marketing a new robot and then revealing hes actually dead and the REAL character is footfag bait the patch before they release is a bad idea
>>539697431Probably attacker still, because if she is Rupture she would have even worse synergy with the other NEDF agents
>>539697228dunning kruger lmao
>>539697787>when I could get literally dozens of new gamesLOL you have the mindset of a child
>>539697228>"hit the nail on the mark"KEK You mean hit the nail on the head u FUCKING ESL PAJEET HAHAHAHA
>>539697712That you don't even play the game and nobody cares about your spending metrics you brown faggot
i thought this da was supposed too be diffincult?
>>539671741Bwos I'm so happy there's no Miasma Priest this time...I only rolled for Yixuan from the Summit, and she herself is just not enough against the Miasma Priest
>>539697712You repeating it doesn't make it true shitskin
why are people so disappointed with seed?
>>539697712Robots don't sellWe have thus decided to rework the robot idol into another human girl, or she's gonna flop too
>>539697712Manato should have been S-rank
>>539697636Haven't you heard? The R&D devs don't know their own markets. Some jobless 16 year old on 4chan who gets jealous over DA scores, that's who knows their markets.
>>539697920And why exactly?Why justifies me spending hundreds on a game like this?It's time to admit to yourself you are addicted also the child is you who can't even control your basic impulses
>>539696660NTA (and I'd assume most retards just copy and paste those screenshots from other people anyway), but it's this website.https://game-i.daa.jp/
not bad for my first try, I'll try to optimize my runs when I get Orphie
>>539672337Why I got Seed: Threw a tenner and got lucky.I was not planning on having her, but God wished so. The same happened with Lighter
>>539697712That people prefer agents that look like this
>>539697553She'd only be elec if Anby gives her one of her swords or something but I wouldn't be opposed to the idea. Show us the Silver Squad training already
>>539697980>only human S ranks since release>Finally tease a new robot after a year>actually hes dead and he just has his corpse piloted around by a character not shown until the patch beforeseed jr is just boring
If ZZZ didn’t want this to become a gooner game. They should’ve stop giving there agents big fat titties
Your final opinions on Jufufu?
>>539698006Why are you replying to yourself and samefaggin?God you're mentally ill, it truly shows the psychology of a whale Absolute mental illness and I guess the cost sunk fallacy is too much to yourself to admit you fucked up by being a retard So by all means, keep living your little fantasy
>>539697980lorewise? some people wanted Seed SrGameplay? The chinese call her a "future warrior", meaning she still has to find her true BiS vanguardthis guys >>539693880 talks about it in the video description. Seed and Orphie have little synergy and Seed only wants her because there is no better option
>>539674237Who really cares if she is bad, i can do 3 Star Deadly assault with her, Trigger and SAnby. she is perfectly playable and has a neat gameplayloop imo
>>539698161First time i've actually gotten an answer, thank you
>>539698272Slightly annoying but very cute and sexable
>haven't been here for a week>dude STILL creams his pants and samefags over Seedkek
>>539690009Agenda posters here to troll, games easy even with shit discs and no mindscapes.
>>539697636He'll probably kill himself if you just ignore his pleas for attention like most people do.The best part: his unmarked grave won't get attention either.
>>539698272Most soulful character of the 2.X version so far, I regret everything I've said about her and I apologize for all the trash-talking during her banner
>>539698272would impregnate again
>>539698106NTA but I can easily explain it to you>I CAN BUY DOZENS OF GAMESUnless you were some dumbass child paypig, you couldn't. Not only are most modern game releases shit, if you were an older man with money you'd already have most of the good games out there. Most working adults with money only have a couple of games they play if that, as there's no time otherwise to play. So for a person like that it's smarter to over invest into a game you like with your disposable income if you're primarily going to be playing mostly that game. Additionally, if you had lots of money it wouldn't matter to you to splurge on a game you likeConversely, if you wanted to save for thingss that were important you wouldn't be saving for dozens of games, you'd be saving for things like cars, insurance payments, a house, etc. Thing you clearly should know about if you weren't projecting like he called you on.
>>539698272I did not roll for her, but I like her design. I think it's very cute.Fits more the whole ZZZ vibe that all other Yunkui Summit agents.
Challenging Orphie, Seed, Soldier 11, and Anby to a spicy foods-only eat off in which the winner gets to grand prize of BRAAAAAAAPING in my face
>>539698272I skipped her at the time but i probably will grab her on a rerun, shes charming
sanby or orpheus for seed?extremely hard choice given how mediocre orpheus isi am not going to be rolling for weapon, gilded blossom seems way better for orpheus than any cope weapon on sanby?
>seed is shit and that's good actuallylol
>>539697980Because she will never truly have a bis since her kit is terribly designed. Devs purposefully made her terrible in beta by removing her aftershocks and making Orphie be a big buff to aftershocks, meaning Orphie is better off with Sanby while Seed is carrying shitty attackers like Nekomiya. Any new attacker that comes out can be used by Seed but you would get better results by removing Seed and putting in an Stunner/Support instead
>>539698272Want to fuck the chunky tiger shortstack.
>>539698183Ju Fufu flopped and this man made abomination will flop too.Brain damaged people who like this shit can't hold a stable job so they won't have the money to spend.
>>539698650Orphie
>>539698272She is better than Yi Xuan and Fufu is basically just a mascot gag character.Yi Xuan is just that boring and mediocre, never make a Mary Sue again I don't care that you wanted a Chinese woman to compete with Miyabi.
what are you talking about bros i love seed
>>539698824What's crazy is that literally nothing feels chinese about YXEven Astra is more chinese-coded
>>539698824>>539698870
>>539698272sexo and the most endearing character we've had in 2.X by far.
>>539696036I for one am glad that we haven't gotten more of Waifei, because if more patches were like 2.0 I would genuinely quit the game.
>>539698919the standalone scooter would have sold more than Flore
>>539698915>GameApelol
I didnt actually expect to like jufufu as much as i did but its a shame i only found out after her banner ended, she did also give my stunners a new really good disc set too
>>539697980>actually hes deadRead the end of Seed's Agent Story again. Seed's phone crashes after getting a torrential amount of data, then when she throws it at Phaethon, we see that someone sent a "^_^" message to her. We know it's not Harin sending it to her, because Phaethon has Old Seed's phone with themMihoyo knows that they have to hype a male unit before releasing it, so that's why we have Seed's story be so focused on Old Seed. We probably will get an alt with him awake once during the Helios Academy arc
A toast to Yi Xuan
>>539698926crossfaded and posted it twice award to me
>>539698272The only season 2 unit so far that I liked enough to roll.
>>539699097wtf I love tigers now
>>539698650I'd wait a couple of weeks for the final verdict, also Sanby buffs are not set in stone, theres a small chance she gets a bigger buff. Right now favoring Orphie.
>>539699164>Seed but belobog constructikonyou know it's coming
>>539699097Jufufu C0W1 is what people think trigger C0W1 is
Zenless Zen Zero should have an anime and have some artists make some songs for the soundtrack
>>539698813orpheus is horrible weak
>>539699382but there's no COW in zzz, even less 2.
oh boy he's standing the orphie slander early
When did ZZZ peak?Many say with Jane Doe
>>539699503>guess
>>539699640It's SoC for me
>>539699503> Random ass chart that doesn't even address what the original question wasRead the anon's question lmao
>>539699640Jane Doe was the beginning of the end
>>539696595The thing about the story in ZZZ compared to Genshin is that it hits higher emotional peaks and it's more concentrated, being shorter.ZZZ's gameplay is also much more exciting. At the climax of the latest story, we had a hype fight against mega Isolde followed by a cool cutscene with a necessary shot of Orphie's fat butt. Then another cool fight 1v1 with old Isolde followed by a great moment with the Denny gun and feeling like absolute shit for not being able to save this old hag.
I literally look like Jufufu and it's annoying.
With the end of Obol in sight, I'm almost hoping I lose my 50/50 to the K0t.I'll shit out some money if I need to in order to get Orphie, but the cunning hares remain my favorite faction by a country miles.I never thought I'd miss TVs, but I miss 1.X
>>539699918Was her ass always this big?
>>539699935Must be devastating to be a manlet with wide hips and narrow shoulders.I recommend loosing weight and doing some cardio.
Bwos, why did Trigger fall so hard on the rankings?I thought she was still great? What changed?
>>539700058Orphie is only good for her body.
>>539700058She's been eating snacks
>>539699935London?
>>539700165>>539700216Lmao, its real. It felt like an edit
>>539699728I miss SoC so muchMost enjoyable story arc and best castI want to go back...
>>539697712No footfaggotry or at least don't do foot pandering with a character that has never been seen before in game until the very day they were released.
>>539699640She has yet to be bested
>>539700497Hmm, nyes, that's another Win for... W
If I rolled seed what do I do? She's useless in DA. I couldn't get past 1 star. Is it just 180 rolls down the drain?
>>539700329This is the right game for big butts.
>>539699370Probably a "Helios Academy" alt because she still has to recover her memories of the time she spent there
have there ever been more than 4 daily tasks?also when do i unlock the other coffee options?lastly, is there a point to waterfall soup?
>>539700571yes, you should hang yourself now
>>539700434we'll see them again once S-rank Billy and Big Daddy get added
You MUST pick one girl from EACH model size. No compromises. Who are they?
Do we have any other upcoming factions at the moment?I know we have the Idols, Spookshack, and Krampus, but have we had any other factions teased or anything?
>>539700639waterfall soup gives you strong buffs for any non shiyu or DA content.So no.
>>539700571Try fighting the boss that's weak to electric.>>539700639>is there a point to waterfall soup?Massive ethereal "Hoba" raids, coming soon.
>>539700675LucyJaneAstra
>>539700675soukaku miyabi yanagi
>>539700675> Model 1 - Nekomata> Model 2 - Ellen> Model 3 - Jane DoeEasy
>>539700789>Try fighting the boss that's weak to electric.I was. I even have seeds wengine but couldn't get past 1 star. I tried evelyn and beat it easily 3 stars.
>>539700675fufu, bibi, rina
>>539700675Rina, Harin, NekomataRina for hugs, Harin for fugs, and Neko for pats.
>>539700686>Yunkui, SpSh, Obol, KrampusThese are the only relevant factions for season two, the Idols are a filler patch faction. We likely won't get anymore faction teases until the season is about to wrap up.
>>539700802>Jane>AstraPlease follow the prompt
>>539701010No
>>539698824>Chinese woman to compete with Miyabi.>Shifu requires an entire team built around her while Miyabi slightly benefits from having ONE inactive supportkek
>>539701084To the gulags with you
>>539700675>Piper>Burnice>Zhu
>>539701140just wait for da goat
>>539700882What team did you use for Pompey? Post it.
>>539700675SoukakuSeedPulchra
>>539701321I just used shifu and got 23k
>>539701171Fine. I sacrifice Astra for Burnice and I'm only slightly happy about it
>>539700434greater outer ring surely... need more cowboy american stuff theres plenty movies to take ideas from make the proxies have to discover an outside fuel source neccessary to blow up the moon or something fuck ithave it be a mad max city of crazy borderlands niggas it would still be cool
>>539700675PiperBurnice Caesar
>>539673435All because Seed is for (You), agenda posters must be executed publicly.
>>539701454Okay, you do not need to go to the gulags
>>539701760Does she take in the front or the back?
>>539701760why did they have to take her away from me
>>539701682The more this game has self-insert and harem-pander, the more we will get seething cucks trying to shit in the thread, as they are agendacucks. At least cucks are low IQ so they are easy to spot and filter.
>>539701990now you know what pompey fags feel
>>539702043now? i was sad about pompey too. he had a really cool design. man fuck these devs. they don't know what we want.
>34k with SAnby/Trigger/Astra on Defiler using the left buff>24k with Miyabi(m2)/Lycaon(m3)/Nicole(m6) on Middlefag using the furthest right buff>16k with Piper(m6)/Burnice/Lucy(m6) on Pompey using the middle buffI don't think I could go any higher. I couldn't even get to 20k with my Yi Xuan(m1)/Ju Fufu/Panda on the middle boss cunt.If it continues down this route I doubt I'll be able to continuously get 9 stars like I used to. I cannot pull every character, I am not that lucky. Especially when you can still lose w-engine 75/25.
>>539701990She is the most mid hag in this game by a fucking longshot lmao.
>>539702043pompeyfags are just barafags>b-but he's coo-in denial
>>539702245>most mid hagYou can't say this when current Yidhari exists
>>539702245Unironically true>>539702272Not everyone thinks of dicks when they see shonensloppa, get a grip.
>>539702276Sex with my senior
>>539702321>YidhariNot even a hag
Every hag in ZZZ is mid since they all pale in comparison to Caesar
>>539702272>barafagsnot even close. i'm a hag lover but if you can't admit pompey's design was cool then go on and tell us what you think is the best, anon. let's hear your totally not slop unique take.
Oh no Manato you got so injured! Oh too bad we cant see because the model didnt change at all...
zzz devs took too long to release their CP now the game will suffer as a resultshould have been 2.3 at the latest, CP will revitalize the game
>>539702245TROOKACOLAI could see even the Bringer complaints but Isolde is bland and mid by design, Mihomo wants to avoid a KEKpitano 2.
>>539702452I consider all model 3 as hags.
>>539702483Caesar is like 25.
>>539702556>KEKpitanoqrd?
>>539702595Same but also Size 2.
>>539702652out of 10
>>539702512And? When have they ever changed the model to show battle damage?
Faggots when they see normal people liking DBZ-like buff characters>"You must be thinking of sex!!!?!?!!!"
>>539702705You need to eat pagpag to understand this meme.
>>539702705Genshin shartdevs didn't make our goat playable and it killed the Natlan hype
seed bad
this thread
>>539702789What are you even talking about?
>>539700675Lucy Vivian Yidhari
>>539702852Capitano wasn't playable because of the uproar about fontaine and Neuvillette replacing Furina as Archon and main character of the region. If you want to blame anyone you should be blaming whoever wrote Neuvillette.
Uh oh latinos got uppity after dabbing on their shitty anime.
>>539702982If that was a problem - they didn't run a whole year of homobanners.
>>539702823Only filipinos used that word doe>>539702852Because of this, sure-to-die NPCs that have extended story involvement are usally plain, Yeshuan (however you spell it) looks boring even next to the Panda because he is going to die, the plain design makes it so zero retards start hyping headcanons of playability. Isolde looks mid for the same reason
>>539702917Fuck the vampire, I wanted to fuck the shit out of that smoking detective.Eyebags man, tired girls are the true peak.
>>539702982>Neuvillette replacing Furina as Archon>two furina versions deserved.
>>539703115That's literally the reason. They spend all of fontaine sucking Neuvillettes cock. Every chapter was about how strong and amazing Neuvillette was and how everyone loved him and how he should be archon and not Furina. Then they humiliate Furina and the real Archon kills herself so Neuvillette can just mary sue and win. Worse still the chinese new year that's all about Liyue in Genshin, the year fontaine came out was all about Neuvillette and how Zhongli was scared of him because he thought Neuvillette would kill him.Needless to say the outcry from men in China was massive. It got so bad that Genshin fired most of the female team responsible for Fontaine and corrected course with Natlan to be about a strong female.
>>539702789asians are canonically afraid of buff men irl, they think it makes you gay, and they're the most insecure closeted fags and a majority of troons.anybody from the west espc our brown spics love buff guy cool types.
>>539703173That's why every seasoned gachafag knew wormano was A rank. Same reason why if Damian ever becomes playable (lmeow), he will be A rank. Pompey looked like an S rank (more than Faghter) but he got KEKpitano'd.
>>539695149Just sit tight and wait for your turn to be humiliated in 2 days. Why are zoocucks always so eager for it? Is it because they identify with a giga beta cuck MC?
>>539702982Anon with only tangential knowledge about Genshin here, didn't the Archons originally steal their power from the dragons? Isn't Neuvillette essentially just getting what's rightfully his in the first place?
>>539703115>>539703351Further to this the real problem was that they had banked on people rolling heavily on Neuvillette after shilling him all year. He's one of the worst selling characters in the game despite still being the most OP DPS in Genshin.
>>539702873i have numbers turned off and big seed slam always just chunks whatever the fuck im hitting it with.
remember that time vivian raped 12 wuwa banners?
>>539703363You are a tranny living in redditscape. Shonensloppa buff males are everywhere in Asia, even shit like KOF is extremely popular in china. Join the 40%.
how does one 'find that out'?
>>539703494You're quoting fontaine lore slop. Originally the archons got their powers from the primordial one who beat the dragons and drove them out of Teyvat. Fontaine and the previous desert area brought the whole stolen power crap back in. There's still nothing in Genshin that explains why the water dragon reincarnated. It's never addressed. But hey Neuvillette is the reincarnated super water dragon lord who is so powerful and is more powerful than the archons woooaah! Anyway. Neuvillette was such a slap in the face of chinese players the entire fujo team at Hoyo got plain fired.Good riddance.
>still 4 more days of Seed's banner to go through
>>539703351sounds based, holy shit what alpha femcels cooked that whole thing up. we needed to keep some around to keep ricecels whipped in the right direction, they get too cocky and everybody endures mary sues instead
>>539703638No since I don't care about open world slop.I remember 1.7 patch being the worst in zzz history instead.
>>539703467lets be honest. we know how this is going to go. ananta will have a huge first month and then like everything else the hype will die down and it'll become yet another gacha slop of the month. eventually there will be thread wars just like how the wuwajeets invade every other hour on the hour.the oracle has spoken to me in my dreams.
>>539703638I still don't get why would anyone care about AppStore numbers.
>539703467Redditor cuck melty
>>539703648cry louder yang i won't hear it when you faggots stab directors over pixels
>cucktranny agenda poster getting uppity after getting BTFO'd with facts and logicKek
>>539703705Orphie can't cum soon enough.
>>539703967>a retard outweights the gorillions sold of shonensloppa in asiaReddit tranny logic
Sorry new to 4chan>>539703843meant for>>539703467
>>539703705Seriously though what's the source for this image and the last one
>>539704045>>539704045>>539704045
>>539703843meant for >>539703467
>>539704118seeing alot of seethe here about your people, care to elaborate on this further with me? how much rhino horn have you consumed trying to lengthen your penis so white women stop laughing at you?
>>539702873About the same as Alice.
>>539703638Vivian is loveVivian is life
>>539704254will it even matter to him since he'll never have a chance with one anyway?
>>539704187It's a mystery.
>>539704187https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/135188006
>>539696036>rugged military faction to break the habit a bit!Like S11 is?
>>539699164Honestly, Phaethon figuring out how to restore seed.Sr would be kino. They might also finally re add the co-operation mechanic they had with ben and koleda.
>>539703638Remember one elf raped our anni
>>539697228We get it, you like Yixuan, but Seed is not Mary Sue in the slightest; she's just trash
