dont be a meta slave, pick braum edition>Wiki for character guides and such (Under construction)https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/>Official linkhttps://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/>How do I get in?Click the link and register for the beta or ask in the bread for an invite code>TWO ECKS KAY OH>>539570276
CONTENT CREATOR TOLD ME THIS GAME IS THE GREATEST FIGHTING GAME OF ALL TIME
>9 characters>Hate 8 of them>Don't want to use juggernautMan this is fucking boring, I feel like playing other games but I know if I don't keep playing I will not be able to catch up later.
>>539728579Yeah, rainman. I'm old. I used to watch trick2g, rainman, and sirchz? there was someone else i can't remember but i watched a lot of stream junkfood in my league eraYeah, I can see Teemo being very setplay oriented, but also probably the best example of a true zoner in the game. He's got that W ability, and I can see him either having it in 2XKO as an install super or just a normal special.My conspiracy theory take is that Teemo's not actually in the game and he's just gonna be an outfit for the avatar
>>539729154catch up to what, this game is getting shut down 2 months post launch
>>539728803Honestly she looks like a clean trad grill compared to original Jinx
>>539728904anti-airs in this game feel extremely inconsistent. it feels like you're trying to AA charlotta from granblue virtually all the time.
>>539728643Shes nuts thoughSome of the highest damage combos with skybones loops and her setplay is genuinely diabolical
>>539729249>catch up to what, this game is getting shut down 2 months post launchThey kept the corpse that was LoR up for 4 years and even afterwards they still kept it up in maintenance mode and doing small updates.Doubt this game will get shut down any time soon.
yeah thats it im uninstalling, there is very little you can do to defend against pure mashing buttons unga bunga
this game sucks. I'm going back to the bbtag.
>>539730274I miss Yang so much...
>be jinx >throwing projectiles>gay ass yasuo throws up windwall>shoot him in the face with laser for gameXDgod i love this champ
>>539729963>>539730274see you guys tomorrow>>539730341>i burn begins to playsoul, more games need to do that
>>539730891No I'm done. Sending riot a message that the game is perfect and not to change anythinghope this shit fails and these people get outed from the industry permanently.
>>539729108>>539729249Capcucks and snk monkeys, probly hard to find matches when only nips play those games, huh
>>539729476>ome of the highest damage combos with skybones loopsWhat, no the fuck anon>her setplay is genuinely diabolicalIt is literally just Illaoi single tentacle tier with less reward potentialGenuinely get out of wood 3 before making posts
>>539729476>setplayI love being hit in the startup of my "set play"
shoot em if you got him might be the most retarded move in the gamethere's 0 way the devs intended for this move to be instantly used at round start to skip neutral into like 3 mixups
>>539732218>shoot em if you got him??What move
>>539732218You say that but at the Dev vs Pro event, Riot Apologyman was doing that to people with his Jinx / Ekko team
>>539732347laser beamcall assist, shoot beam, swap to assist, laser keeps going and you can go pressure them or, if they dared to press a button fullscreen, a full combo
Its quite telling how quickly this game falls apart when you try anything that isnt the most basic shit
>>539732218Having supers at roundstart is just fucking dumbI'm ok with high meter gain and no meter retention but this is dumb
they somehow managed to make a game more brainless than League
wait im understanding jinxIm reading peoples mind and rocket jumping and shooting them out of the air when they jumpim cancelling out of my whiffed minigun into superzoning is kinda epic bros tfAlso Braum jinx is just so evil
>>539733319>Also Braum jinx is just so evilHuh, how so
>>539732858Chalking this up to a overcorrection, since the fact that people hated alpah lab 2 because getting meter was hard and dmg was too low, so every match ended up getting time-outs, my thought is that they cranked everything up for the beta, and my hopeful cope is that they will tune/fix it before the launch
>>539733465>overcorrectionits been 10 fucking years you're supposed to overshoot in the beginning. Everything at this point should be FINE TUNING.
>>539733395you do shield whenever you whiff machine gun and they jump at youand then they just die because you tag into him and get his super into double down rocket super into setup and rezone them
if you don't have jinx in your team you're actively trolling
>>539733717You could also just get Blitz and preemptively do hook and have a better teammate
Is there a good chip damage team that doesn't use Illaoi
*picks Yasuo near you*
Anyone got the VODs for the last Reversal and the Pros vs Devs tourneys?
>>539735725https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2570605534Starts from 35min
Darius becomes high tier when you remember that you have a fucking half screen sweep that you can throw out instead of mashing into slow as shit specials to get parried
Parrying shit like Jinx minigun gives you two fucking supers worth of meter
>>539736239>just two retards doing mixup into combowow.... what an amazing genre you have created here for the past 20 years.
for being a supposed curaaahzzeee tag game this player base plays extremely lameabout 75% of matches are against people just running away until projectile assist
>>539737253Well when the total duration of a H button is around 70 frames and the projectiles until recovery is around 80 you don't want to press a button until you know it will connect with the opponent
Pushblock kinda feels shite
>>539737920irrelevant everything connects no matter where you are
>>539737192>People act like Jinx has some cool and intricate mix with divekick>You can casually 2H anything she does after the divekick on reaction>Having an assist forcing you to block it still doesn't really make it worth it more over a simple fucking strike/throwThe character is held together by duct tape and laser beam
>>539738120nigga you are retarded
>>539738567You're free to refute it anon
Exhibit A: Emerald 4 lobby>>539733850Nah thats gaynot as fun
>>539738120you can just walk forward and watch it whiff. All her setups are fake
Oops it didnt uploadMy tale in 3 imagesThis guy even had parries for my jinx lasers but I just timed them for whenever he went for a swap and he got cooked omega
>>539739564The Xrd Bedman strat...
how is jinx so fvn bros
>>539739628nobody gives a fuck about this faggot gameshut up
>>539736239>They can't even say exhibition without also writing Chipotle next to itHoly fuck man
>>539739790I spent my whole childhood Ziodyning assists or bursts on reaction with Yu Narukami back in bbtagFinally all my training has paid off
>>539732741wym
>People keep talking about Jinx super>You can do the exact same shit with Braum except it covers both the ground and the air at the same time
>>539739628did you really post a fucking image instead of a webm
Jinx feels so fucking good when you get her goingAlso just whiffing her minigun but randomly tagging the assist with it letting you cancel into rocketjump to punish someone who thought you trolledHoly FUCK that is so sick>>539740939Idk Braums is a lot slower so it doesnt punish as hardAlso it pushes them back really far so you dont get to mix as much>>539741136dude its like 40 seconds of gameplay man itd take too longJust know that I cooked him with immaculate zoning as well as spacingHere ill give you one of my qiyana plays as recompsnese
>>539741927Actually I just won a game by upbacking into down rocket for the timeoutim just shooting people dawg brap brap brapp
>>539742653>I just won a game by upbacking into down rocket for the timeoutBut howThat thing is slow as fuck to come out and legit reactable from fullscreen tier slow to recover
>>539742706u just condition people broIf he jumps a lot you jump minigun to hard call it or jump rocket to make a safer betthen hes gonna try to run in when you jump so you jump down rocket or jump back call ground assistbig read city thats what that is
>>539742653wow ! even wood ranks can do it!
>>539743002i bet you get hit by yasuo cross up nigga sybau
>>539743485Already uninstalled, game is for UMVC3 refugees who can't cut it in that game.
>>539743645Aite see you around big dogSucks that you can't block the slowest cross up of all time Im surprised you manage to cross the street safelyStay healthy
Jinx downplayers?!!?? nonononONOnonono!!
>>539731761She has the highest damage throw combo in the game by far and it isnt closeWhen half the game is throwing people's rolls yes thats insane
>Yasuo backdash spammer>>539745509I hate this ugly ass twink so much
>>539745509Leffen tierlists are always the funniest shit ever in each gameI'm pretty sure he consistently ranked one of the only characters to be bottom 3 till season 3 to be top 5 or 6 in Strive and his clear cut top 3 character in Sm*sh agreed by everyone just in mid tier
>>539745509leffen's the biggest histrionic little faggot in fighting games hes worse than me evenhe was putting happy chaos in mid tier during the season where he could literally just nonstop lock you down at full screen for 45 seconds and everyone knew it
What champions could be the Yu/Adachi of 2xko?
>>539741927It sounds like you would unironically have preferred Alpha 2Where the game would never end because combos were so low damage and people could just run away the whole game and scam the timerYou'd be pissing and cumming over the neutral on display im sure
>>539746214>>539746380>>539746772Nice copesYou suck at both Jinx and fighting games sorry! Truth hurts!
>>539747985You are quite literally one of the dumbest people on this planet.
Fuck it. Taking a break from ranked.What League characters do you guys want in tuko?
>>539748395nah sorry hes prob right
>>539748632I want them to NOT put Gwen in, under any circumstance
Who's good with Vi?
>>539748892Vi goes with a lot of characters, desu. She's versatile as hell and her OTG options are good. I see her with Illaoi often, but Vi/Jinx is strong too
>>539745647>She has the highest damage throw combo in the game by far and it isnt closehttps://x.com/i/status/1969198682521182577
>>539748998he needs it
>>5397486321. Qiyana - Rushdown skewed All-rounder with powerful projectiles, movement options and mix but locked behind 3 separate stances (rock, ice and grass) she can only access one at time and maybe even only for brief moments2. Zoe - Wacky item zoner like all the rest of that archetype. Access to teleports and references to league items and spells like ignite, flash, gunblade, hydras etc.3. Uhhh probably Twisted Fate. He can be also be sort of an item character where he draws different cards and teleports aroundActually Idk what else hed do but throwing cards is cool maybe too much overlap with Zoe thoughHonorable mentions: Poppy Graves BriarActually make Graves number 3 fuck that TF guy hes not as cool now that ive thought about it
>>539748632Unbench the Kench
>not wanting OriannaI need THE BALL IS ANGRY
>>539748998>air throw >twitter comboYeah when I said chasing rolls you astutely noticed I clearly meant air throws in fury which get landed about once every 4 gamesI definitely did not mean ground throws which are at about 1 per every 20 seconds after every combo not at all
>>539745509I can only assume Leffen plays Ekko/Yasuo given his history of being unable to admit he plays a top-1 character.
>>539748632my hubby's hubby of coursedestruction man is awesome and getting to team him up with darius would be sick. i'd also like trundle (i feel like he'd be able to put up an ice pillar behind you and beat the shit out of you up against it), tahm kench, aatrox because he's edgy and i like edgy characters, gragas because the idea of belly blasting people and bouncing them around the screen with barrels sounds fun as fuck, zac because i just like him
>>539745647>>539749357She literally just gets 1 otg hit into s1 s2 meterless
>>539747985(You)>>539748635(You)
>>539749443try again genius
>>539749494I really didn't think there were was a possibility of two massive retards responding to me. Carry on.
>>539749368yupbut he is also learning ekko jinx right now so
>>539749429>yes I can only talk about METERLESS combos in 2xko the game where you die in two hits and make a bar in 2 seconds and start with a bar because...b-because it doesnt fit my narrative!!
>>539749989You were literally just crying about metered combos last post
>>539750196no sweatie I dont mention meter at all in that post are you schizophrenic perhapsthe issue I took was the distinction between air throws and tech chase throwsEasy mistake to make though! the words "chasing rolls" and "meterless" are very similar
>>539750196>NOOOOO you can't do metered OR non metered combos let me win my argument
i hate when the other guy picks my champ in the mirror match. i only really like the default colors. i don't want to use a chroma.
How the fuck do you link Vi's bnb 5H~5H>5S1, 5L?
>Yasuo can literally just slash away from Jinx's firework super into oki setup
>>539750665mash harder as the devs intended
>>539748892>>539748954Is Jinx good for Sidekick?
I'm going to post two imagesTell me if this is good design or cohesiveAlso try to guess which is strictly better even ignoring only the things given in the images
round start s1 on vi is so fucking stupid dude holy shit
>>539728904anti-air crutchers seething is always glorious
>>539751185
>>539745509jinx s+ is the first time i've ever seen this retard be right about anything which is scary
>>539751185>>539751310>Practically double the recovery on base normalsIs this Ekko vs Braum or something
Fury has GOT to go.
>>539751796It's Yasuo on the first and Jinx for the second
>>539745509>yassuo is the best point character in the game, but is only ranked lower because his assists suckDo you agree with leff?
>>539752232>yasuo's assists suckjesus fucking christ dude
Who's good for assists with Vi sidekick? Jinx?
This is Darius
>>539752428>windwall sucks>forward assist is good, but doesn't do well in 2x>compared to jinx who's every assist is cracked in all modes
>>539752770reminder that if you ever get hit by this character it is fucking gapif you lost to darius you lost because you were worse
>>539752770>>539751310>>539751185Genuinely, why's there such a disparity? Nobody ever though Jinx's normals were standout, why are they way slower than a big body character to recover
oh shit Ahri has Cold star assist
>>539753718because you're not pressing random normals in neutral with jinx, you're filling the screen with shit and then pressing laser if the enemy player dares so much as jump
>>539749368>>539749819he mains jinx/yasuo
the real measure of success for a fighting game is if hungry_clicker makes art of characters from the game.hungry_clicker has not made any art of 2xko.
>>539757230have you seen what the game looks like
>>539758853Ahri is cute, you can make good art of Ahri
>>539757230he'll make art when it shows up at evo main stage or whatever the first major to feature it ends up being
this has to be the worst fighting game I ever played, americans are a plague that destroy anything they touch.please don't ever make a game again.
>>539757230this is the flattest elphelt fanart I've ever seen
>>539729552Honestly I think LoR brought in more money than 2xcrapo and had less dev costs. Besides that it was a time when riot was making huge money from LoL, now they aren't in a good position, they fired hundreds of people, cancelled a lot of games, they aren't fucking around anymore.
>>539728936Is this the first fighting game ever where you'll have hundreds of players with years of experience ahead of everyone else during IT'S FUCKING RELEASE?
>>539761694no look up what they did with Tekken 7 lol but yeah it's bad
>>539761232cuz shes not wearing a bra
>>539761694getting into the closed beta isn't too bad but yeah, this will cause a lot of chaos when it actually "releases" and honestly its been so long they should've just said "heres the release, open beta" and made a huge push for it so there would be a wider playerpool
got this URGE to play braum but I'm not sure what to pair him withmaybe ekko 2x assist or darius double down or something idk
>>539750665this game has a ton of combos that involve getting the right height/timingthat combo is a perfect example of oneif you do 5S1 as fast as possible, the opponent will hit the floor before you can 5Lif you let 5HH pop them up higher, and then S1, then they'll be high enough up that your 5L will link
Losing with Jinx is skill issue
>>539761694No, that used to be standard where Japanese arcades got every Japanese fighter 1-2 years in advance. People wanked off Japanese pros for being godlike, but they somehow suddenly and for no reason stopped dominating at the exact same time west started getting simultaneous releases. Really makes you think.
>>539763167Even outside of closed beta, haven't some top players gotten to playtest the shit out of the game? I remember people complaining when Sonicfox won a TNS or something last beta because he had so much more playtime than anybody else competing and everybody just coped for him that they were old builds and he's so GAWDLIKE he'd win anyway.
........braum
>>539745509I made this a week prior and there are only minor differences.
It is true that leffen is a complete and total faggot though and a compulsive liar who deserves no support
>>539761694Are you new? Games released in Japanese arcades and Japanese consoles before ever making it to the west before.
I think starting off with 10 characters was the best
vi will never be top tier i constantly see people drop her BNB
>>539773119Yeah, they can't do it during closed beta? They'll never get it down consistently.
>>539757230The game is very fun but dude its league of legends, the characters are generic and lack any depth
>>539773391frame perfect combos are much harder than string/motion execution
>>539773119I, on the other hand, am surprised at how consistent Vi players have been with her electrics at my rank.
what's ahri's lore
is it possible to do the meaty throw on a roll with big bodies outside of the corner? i think blitz is too slow but maybe there's something you can do
>>539774589sex kitten
No Lux no Bux.
>>539775846is this crystal maiden
How many frames is the parry window in this game?
>>539773474Thing is, people will always get it. Especially when we have such advanced training mode tools. Everyone said Evil Ryu wasn't an issue in SF4 since his combos were 1 frame links, people mastered him. Look at Melee, people do "impossible" shit all the time with Fox. People make PEWGF 6-8x loops with Kazuya look easy. People will always get it down. Now, does that mean Vi is worth the effort? Probably not, she doesn't seem better than Yasuo who is practically braindead outside of "stylish" combos which only do like 20 more damage but require more stance dancing nor does she seem better than Ekko.
Can someone explain to me what is the point of freestyle when assists already stay on screen forever and body block and you can still make your point character do a long attack or charger attack before tagging into your assist? Seems like playing with 2x assist is basically the same result as freestyle you just dont get to swap back and have better neutral. You can already set up really disgusting mix even without freestyle.
>>539779320The same reason there are two solo fuses: the devs have no fucking clue what they are doing and throwing every idea that passes through their brain into the game.
>>539779320>Seems like playing with 2x assist is basically the same result as freestyle >you just dont get to swap back and have better neutralWow I wonder what the point of freestyle is, if you just ignore what it does completely it's just like 2x
how should they buff ahri?
>both sonicfox and leffen say jinx is the best>/vg/ "Nah bro she's mid, worse than Ahri"Lmao
>>539780385When freestyle was first announced, the other fuses didn't have absurdly long assists that allow you to do crazy shit. Now the entire base game is basically half of what freestyle was and now freestyle is just shit that allows you 1 50/50, meanwhile giving up double down which is free damage (or when paired with a character like Jinx is a much longer and scarier mixup than freestyle) or 2x assist which also gives you mix and also amazing neutral and blockstring pressure. Freestyle is just a meme now. The entire game became BBtag, so the BBtag fuse feels pointless.
>>539777183A year old reddit post says 8 frames, everything else says 6-8 frames. It seems like the window is shorter than that to me but ive not bothered to do the research
I hope riot doesn't shy away from adding little fun event modes that appear for a daily or something. I'd love to play a mode where you get all 3 duo fuses even if it's only for a weekend or something.
>>539779320It enables a lot of different mixups and makes them safer, or give up the added safety next to go directly into another mix. Downside is that its not as simple as 2X or double down.
>>539780961I'm maining her and I genuinely don't get what people are seeing about her that seems weak. She feels very fucking strong. Her zoning's just not a snoozefest and you need to set shit up properly, or play with Braum if that's all you wanna do
>>539781950fighting games feel really far behind in this basic live service concept. other games have tons of shit like this. hell magic the gathering arena has fun midweek shit that allows you to play the game in unique ways. street fighter did it with omega mode in USF4 which was fun as hell, then never did it again for some reason. shit feels so stale when all you have is "ranked and unranked" and Riot should already know this considering they have shit like ARAM in league.
>>539781950>pop fury into 2x assist into freestyle into double downAnon, the shitposters can barely handle being in a combo, they'd lose their minds if they experienced that.
>>539779320Freestyle allows some really degenerate mixups. 2x is the truly pointless one.
really stupid that you can choose to stay in lower rank lobbies after ranking up
>>539762603That one just had a generic arcade release
What do you do on Ahri after landing a throw? Assist to convert to combo?
>try anti-airing jump in>their assist interrupts my anti-airhow do i deal with this
>>539784427heheyou don't
>>539784427backdash, parry, retreating guard, pushblock, burst, block, jab the assist then 2H
lol
>>539786439holy
>>539784427air throwchicken block maybe idk
I think this game has the least enjoyable neutral I've ever played and that's with 1k hours in SF6. People will claim it's a tag fighter so there's not meant to be neutral but even games like DBFZ with it's superdash has more enjoyable neutral than this, MVC3 does too.
>YasuoShitty master Yi>EkkoMore like Gayko>BlitzcrankBASED>Vidumb>Jinxsmells like garbage>Braumreddit>Dariusgay version of Garen>illaoiI dont know who this broad is>Ahrishould've been AkaliThis roster STINKS and I don't like it.
>>539787230>2XKO>neutral??? How do you enjoy something you don't exist. DBFZ is/was the same. You don't play neutral here, you actually want to skip it and get on your opponent's throat as fast as possible and your opponent prevents you from doing that by neutral skipping harder
>>539787565it does exist, neutral exists in every game. dbfz also had it. neutral =/= wiggling back and forth like in sf5. the fact whiff punishing is borderline impossible in this game is pretty annoying
>>539787775there's no whiff punishing in dbfz either stupid nig
>>539787565you want to do that in every game, the reason you’re not is literally because you’re in neutral and the player who wins neutral gets to mash on the opponent’s guard
>>539787279>Ahri, Blitzcrankgood picks>Yasuovery iconic unfortunately, so also a good pic, sadly>DariusHim or Garen are also ok, iconic for the game>Ekko, Vi, JinxBRO REMEMBER ARCANE???????? shill picks. Jinx is iconic though, I guess she's ok. I still remember her teaser video in LoL, it was pretty good>BraumFine if the game didn't already have 50 big body characters>IllaoiThis one is the most retarded choice in the roster, absolute dogshit. If they wanted a setup character they could've done anyone else, there are so many characters in LoL that fit that niche but ofc they had to pick the ugly nigresse that only meta pick slaves pick. Both in LoL and here kek>Akalishe will get in for sure but shouldn't be in immediately>JaxWHERE THE FUCK IS JAXFUCKING RETARDS
>>539784427welcome to tagslop and remember there’s a reason this genre has had only one successful game, and it’s because it was called dragonball
>>539787975>you want to do that in every gamethe thing is here you can forcefully skip it, in other games your opponent usually has some way to prevent that. how do you prevent assist + jinx laser here? parrry? lol
>>539788101you do it before the opponent kek
Imagine the riot shareholder meeting when they have to explain how a game they spent half a decade has a tripledigit player count
>>539782196>for some reason.they probably got the user data and saw that everybody ignored it.people werent even running fun tournaments for it, but thats the gay 09er SF4 community for you.
>>539788646>triple digit player countThat's mighty generous of you.
>>539788646John Tencent asking the Cannon brothers why would they lie and say everyone loved muh mahvel baby
>>539788646>closed beta for a fighting game you have to go out of your way to playjeez nigga i dunno
>>539789074it would be hysterical if it dropped below 100 players but I think it’s not quite that level of dead on arrival
>>539789238is it really closed at this point? I feel like anyone who wanted to try the game already did
>>539789296>>539789074if granblue can keep hovering around at 300-400-500 in its current state its very possible 2XKO can keep around 1000+ easilyit really sucks you can't play between regions though. some NA->EU connections are fine
i can't wait much longer bros i need to spend money on this game sooo baddddd
>>539789521That's not how number ranges work.
>>539789624how so
>>539789667You write 300-500, that covers all the numbers between 300 and 500, which includes 400. Writing 300-400-500 is redundant.
>>539789905youre right I should've used / instead... I failed...
>>539789521I don’t see why 2xko would have more staying power than granpoo which is immediately more appealing since it’s much easier to play, has a better cast and it’s not tagshit
>>539790000League brand
>>539790000It's free, which often attracts hordes of third-worldies who can't afford paid games. Just see Brawlhalla. Unironically has a larger playerbase than any other fighter except SF6, simply because of the reeking masses of Africans, Indians and South Americans.
>>539790178ain’t a single league player playing this, it’s all fighting game players>>539790381true actually, i forgot only one character is free in granpoo
>>539787775>it does exist, neutral exists in every gameSure. Just like a console player has to aim in CoD. There's a big difference though between that and someone playing CS on M/KB to the point that you'd look very silly saying the former still requires aim when somebody makes a hyperbolic statement saying it doesn't.
made it to plat, what rank separates the tag fighter vets from the regular fighter players? I want to know where I'll start getting mixed by the dumb shit.
>>539784427Block call anti air assistYou have one too buddy
>>539790817you'll know
>>539789521speaking of Granblue, someoned used that reddit thread with 14k comments as an argument for interest in the gameeven if all of those concert to players, Granblue, a small FG has ~70k players
>>539789613sameI want to buy the battle pass and get project skins for my mains..
>>539790817I imagine diamond I reached Emerald doing LMH+special and suddenly felt a sharp increase in player skill. They still weren't great, but they had a general idea I stopped playing because the combo faggotry started to annoy me at emerald
>>539784427rocket jump backwards into hold minigun and he drops dead
>>539791738Akali is so hot but this pic needed Lotus Irelia, the pitslut
>every 2xko criticism is met with 'its a tag game bro, tag games are like that'Harrowing
>>539792329>new 1v1 game not be seen on sight anywhere
>long super animations>and they are also shit lookingYou can't have both. It either needs to be shit and short or long and good.
>>539792329STREET FIGHTER IS DEAD NIGGA???WE'LL NEVER SEE ANOTHER SHIT FIGHTER AGAIN???!! NOOOOO000000ooooooo!
>>539792329You forgot 'wiggling back and forth isn't neutral, bro'
>>539792627tekken has both
>>539792627They just saw DBFZ and it's supers, and wanted to add the same thing into their game (this is their approach to every mechanic in the game, no further thought went into it) not realizing you need skilled animators and a long time to achieve same level of animation quality.
>>539792942tekken 8 is not a good game
>>539792993dbfz supers are both very short AND they look good, if that was their objective they failed on every front
The reason I never got into another fighting game after bbtag was because you could never ever do anything as sick as a fullscreen Ziodyne into active tag Or getting a happy birthday on people off of a well timed mashBut nobody heard me then so I dont hear you pussy bitches now iiwis
>>539792627Tokon won.
>Blitz whiffs a giant j,2H>"Heh time to punish!">loseThis is a war crime character get this fat fucking clanker wretch out of my fucking game.
>>539793496you ran into the hitbox though
this game fucks me up so bad when I try to punish stuff that is usually unsafe in other games
>>539793630only thing that gets me is really early jump ins
>>539793614Air moves have like zero recovery frames on landing so yes I'm running in close. Why is the hitbox that large? Faggot character
>>539793496>jinx ekko abuser owned by honest mid tier blitzlove 2 see it
Honestly just think Riot poured as little money into this game as possible and that's why things feel so halfassed (especially on the animation front) because they know a fighting game isn't going to bring in MOBA level money and they are also planning a huge ass MMO which probably takes most of their budget atm.
>>539793496???????? you got hit lmao>>539793714day 1-2 I also said the same, how the fuck is blitz legal. then I saw Ekko and Yasuo and realized "ooohhh so that's how blitz is allowed to be like this"
Remember anons balance is enemy of fun.
>>539793496Air normals recover instantly upon landing, even if you had not been hit you would not be able to punish
>>539795380>Air normals recover instantly upon landingholy kuso
>>539795380you sure about instantly? usually in other fighting games they have like a very small window where you can hit them once they land if they pressed a move in air
>>539795380>>539795973just straight up untrueits not very long but there are landing lag frames for every character
>>539796617>landing lag
>>539796617post a webm of you punishing it then
>>539748632Renekton, Poppy or Kha'Zix. If one of these gets added I'm not swapping to Tokon
>>539748632If and when they add Riven I'll actually install and play the game (juggernaut fuse obviously) instead of just shitposting about it here.
>>539792695it's not that it isn't neutral, it isit is just fucking boring and looks retarded as shit
>>539797616this is way too slow I agree, surely extremely skilled but still slow and boring as fuck. in a certain sense even kusoge schizo shit like this game is extremely skilled, but wayyy too kusogethey're basically at the extreme opposite ends of the genre
>>539793496THE TIMEOF MANHAS COMETO AN END
>>539792329BROOOOOOOOOOO THIS GAME HAS NO STRIKE/THROW??? STRIKE/THROW IS GAAAAAWDLIIIIIIIIIKE FIGHTING GAMES NEEEEED IT
>>539797616this webm always cracks me up
>>539793928>things feel so halfassedThis game has more depth than all 3 current top fighting games combined, sorry.
I love when I post some shit about tag games and people start deflecting saying SF is shitlittle do they know I'm a grubba and I think both SF and tag kuso sucks
>>539797616The problem with SF5 at the start was never that it was slow and had too much neutral, it was the lack of extended hurtboxes during start-up and recovery which made whiff-punishing and pre-empting the opponent too difficult, resulting in your webm. They fixed that in later seasons, but of course shitposters never acknowledge that. About as fair as posting Alpha lab 1 webms to criticize 2xKO a year from now.
Caitlyn when? My yuri heart needs a CaitVi team.
>>539797616
>>539748632oldfag picks>Kaylemite b cool>Garen, Luxhype supers when they yell Demacia at the top of their lungs>KogmawIt's important for tag games to have a bunch of weird ass body types imo. >ShenI like him more than the other ninjas other than>Akalitits>Nidaleea transformation character isn't in the game
>>539798271that webm just shows how much better than 2xko dbfz is
>>539797842What are you talking about, the game has insanely strong strike/throw, you get free plus frames on any blocked normal due to being able to call an assist, the tech window is tiny, you spend half of any given match in a form where you can dash cancel any normal and the reward for a throw is a full combo dealing 50%-100% damage for most characters.
>>539798080youre a sfaggot who put on a different shit nigga
>>539791738
>>539798080What fighting games do you like?
Howcome when I backroll tech throw it doesn't seem to work sometimes??
>>539798654when you're rollingyou cant techyou already lost when you guessed wrong and didnt getup attack so theres no counterplay for you left
>>539798080>grubbaft10 me bitchI agree but 2xko is fun for me right now since its my first tag game. also duo with friends is hilarious
I hope that if they ever port Jax over they find a new additional handicap to put on him, his whole light pole gimmick is the coolest part of him
>>539798636granbloo
>>539798990Look at that super and tell me that isn't a kusoge
>>539793496>whiffs a giant j.2Hwhere did that happen nigga
>>539799341Shut up you know what I mean. He hit me at the tail end of its active frames
played a ftdeath with a friend last night for 3 hours straightas a marvel player this game is absolute cinema. definitely needs some fine tuning as the damage is too much but it's so good man. finally we have a real fighting game that isn't uncreative, boring ass slop.
>>539799240it was legitimate kusoge dogshit on delay netcode
>>539797616>>539798115it does a good job of illustrating the point thoughpeople jack off about skill and perfectly spacing all the time but when the entire game is the natural conclusion of it then its boring. Ultimately this always comes down to taste And also SFV was a real game that you bought for money. Fixing their mistake months and years after is really not as forgivable as making fuckups in a free to play closed alpha test
>>5397996800.01 social credits have been deposited to your Tencent account. Thank you for your service.
>>539799826the neutral obsession is a meme pushed by sf mongoloids, they just want to feel superior that's all
Saar please, infinite means infinite combo, granshit is better
>>539798990
>>539798208Around when they release garen I'd imagine
Is Vi +Illaoi Sidekick good or does she only synergize with 2X Assist? I've been running Vi +Jinx Sidekick, but can Vi get setplay off of DHC into Illaoi tentacle super?
>>539798208Unironically shes got a good shotArcane shilling is rampant and you can tell the character designers are all shippers.Illaoi Braum, Yas Ahri and Jinx ekko are all ships and they even went as far to put Jinx and ekkos graffiti on each others weapons and shitAlso I feel like Vi has a lot of moves that are meant to work with Cait. Her air grab dunk dropping people into a yordle snap trap or something like that
i'm unironically too low iq for thisi'm going back to tekken
>Darius's stupid chip damage special hits both sides of him and confirms to super no matter what for 50% minimum>Meanwhile I can't even get my basic fucking poke to hit two feet from me and confirm into abc
>>539802920I promise this game is babymode, you just gotta get used to 2D and tagkuso mechanics
>>539801738YAH!
>>539803203Yordles >>> Harvins
Nuremberg trials for Yasuo players WHEN
>>539798839no i wont ft10 you you commie fuck
>>539803454And yet of all the yordles they will put fucking teemo in the game
>>539802915Jinx ekko is a thing? Eww. All the other pairings you listed sound stupid as hell too.
the guy who made Briar's splash art draws yordle porn by the way
>>539804041Teemo fucks at leastyou guys got Uno LOLThats like if we got CORKI
The body block and camera fake wall blocks are legit so gay and amateurish
>>539804410seethe white boi
>>539804471Corki would be infinitely better than Teemo and you know it
>>539804410Yea theyre all realdont blame me blame california
>>539804041Teemo is based
>>539804410Yas ahri is apparently from one of the RPG they didI always meant to play them but never got around to it, so Idk if it's good or not
>>539803115The hitbox design inconsistency in this game is legit worse than release Strive and that's saying something
It's crazy how you don't actually need to do Vi's electrics
>>539804410You missed the 3-month long meltdown on /tv/ after season 2 dropped.>>539804862The RPGs are cool. Riot Forge games were well made in general but I think only the first one was actually well received and mostly because of the novelty. Every other game was just bleeding Riot's money just like 2XKO is doing. It's funny to think that Riot has been on a long losestreak of games since they were aquired by Tencent. Seriously how the fuck do you drop the ball so hard?
>>539804525body blocking yourself with your own character is so weird yeahI dont remember it being a mechanic in other active tag games and idk the point of it in this one
>Enemy gets to air tech after your combo>The following button is practically a fucking DP that can TODReally fucking bad system, extremely unsatisfying to tech or to chase techs
>>539802876anyone?
>>539806521Arcane season 1 gets glazed and somehow it's not enoughArcane season 2 gets hated and somehow it's not enoughBravo, Roit Gaems
>>539808212we aint got many illaoi players here im pretty sure
>The grounded minigun actually, unironically has 75 frames of startup AND 75 frames of recovery>In a game where the hits of a projectile don't even matter because all anti projectile methods ignore this concept completely>In a game where the stupid pixie gets a 15f startup projectile that has an air version and can combo start from fullscreen too
>>539809417man how can you be so bad that you cry about your moves as a jinx player
>>539809417>The grounded minigun actually, unironically has 75 frames of startup AND 75 frames of recoveryif anything that just makes it all the more impressive how busted Jinx isBesides, I really doubt it actually has 75f of startup
>>539809838The """anti air"""" version does, the straight line one is still like 28-34ish but the ingame frame counter is retarded and also shows it as 75f startupEkko's fireball still has around 8 less frames of recovery and a faster startup on top of the timestop powers over the rocket by the way
>>539809417Reminder for /vg/ that the tier lists only reflect how good the character is at highest level of playIf you're dogshit at fighting games, jinx is probably the worst character for you to play, there needs to be a separate tier list made here for the pleb experience who randomly press buttons and wonder why they lose
just ragequit against a dev with my patented desync technique (doesn't count as a ragequit so no points lost + no points for you) :)
>>539804530Haha wtf
I need someone to explain how mashing works to me in this game right now, it feels stupidly forgivable and I keep dying to gorillas mashing.
>>539810628>If you're dogshit at fighting games, jinx is probably the worst character for you to playShe's practically shit for way higher up too, a good chunk of the things that make her great are fuse or team specific tech And the beam super double down I guess
>>539809417YOU CAN CANCEL THE MINIGUN INTO ANYTHING IF THEY BLOCK OR GET HIT BY ITWHY ARE YOU WHIFFING RAW MINIGUN AND CRYING?USE ROCKET IF YOU WANT TO WHIFF WITH 0 PUNISHMENTYOUR CHARACTER IS TOP 3
>>539813202she's notcheck the OPbottom 3
Is there a "opening training mode with the same settings as last time" option somewhere so I don't have to spend 30 seconds picking the stage and color of the 2ps assist character each time?
>>539806521>>539804530Tell their faggot asses.The /tv/ meltdown was funArcane season 1 is legitimately among the greatest cartoon television of all time and I hate league of legends.
>>539813202>USE ROCKET IF YOU WANT TO WHIFF WITH 0 PUNISHMENTIt's a relatively slow to recover fireball by fighting game standards and has a tiny hitbox by tag fighter standards
Why do people watch this clown?
>>539815797>Jinx/Blitz bad synergy??????
bros!
What did he say for Vi/Ahri?
>>539816529Emerald is effectively Bronze. Real ranks start at Emerald.
>>539816091>Jinx Blitz has insane mix and can level 1 three times>Bad synergyWhat a shitter
>>539817363
>>539815473yes you’re so rightbecause jinx has nothing she can cancel her rocket with nope no full screen combo starters you can hitconfirm or bait out people with, no aoe fullscreen frame 1 supers, nor giant assist calls nor active tags no theres nothing at all you can do to answer your opponenthell she cant even rocket jump away at the speed of sound and shoot her rocket from anywhere in the air with horizontal momentum to cover whatever possible approachall she can do is stand still throwing hadokens like ryu and be a sitting duck yup they shouldve made it the fastest biggest projectile of all time she needs it
>>539818730You sound mad because you're bad and can't take basic objective facts
you guys have no idea how bad for the game having a character like jinx be top tier is
>>539819038saying an “objective fact” while omitting all the context and options that surround the fact in order to sell a retarded low elo narrative is so based yesI do think jinx is bottom 1 because her hp is the lowest in the game so therefore shes just objectively worse than other characters we agree
>>539816091>>539817503It's not like Blitz needs the damage from Jinx and Jinx doesn't really benefit from Blitz's assists as much as she does othersBlitz is also slow so it's harder for him to take advantage of the beam cheese
>>539819379>Blitz is also slow so it's harder for him to take advantage of the beam cheese?????????????? you can literally run from fullscreen with him and get it
>>539819531Yeah but you could've started spicier mixes with different characters by then with others and even keep pressure if things go southIt's not that it literally doesn't fucking work you numb skull, it's just better value with certain other teams how is to hard to grasp this
>Even the extremely retarded hyperbolic eternal sw*de is capable of pointing out nothing is actually bad on a very easy to read image>Just shows how some are better matches than others>Anons ITT seething and malding at the made up notion that someone said something they just lost to was bad even though nobody didWhat
ok but did you know ekko has some of the lowest HP by fighting game standards though
>>539820551sounds made up
>>539820551No he doesn't
>>539820345>>539815797what does bad synergy even mean if its on the opposite axis of “good and bad team”this is a retarded premise clearly
>>539822000Jesus how fucking dumb are you
>You can't even attack Illaoi's super tentaclesHow's this fair
>>539822327explain it leffen interpreter ur so smart
>>539728936Why do braums normals feel so stubby even though they're huge
>>539823526Because they actually are, we have an actual hitbox viewer in gameThis game is in dire need of a hitbox rework
>>539804041it's sad, but expected
>>539823848They'll rework the hitboxes as soon as they finish reworking the combos, supers, fuses, framedata, characters, animations, damage, meter gain, oki, defensive options, lobbies, ranked and monetization. Check back in 5 years, maybe they will have managed to cobble together a half-way finished game by then.
>>539822000Bad synergy means they're not getting a ton of combo extensions off assists and assists aren't really doing a great job at helping the point character. But because both characters are so good, it doesn't matter.
This game is kuso to the same degree as HXH it just isn't as immediately obvious. Will die before it actually launches.
>read burst>block it>try to convert>they tech and mash>I fucking die
>>539824893Nah, I think it'll actually launch with a suprisingly high number of players, then die six months later.
>>539824893>it just isn't as immediately obviousPretty much everyone been calling it kusoge ever since Alpha lab 1 though. The only difference is that it doesn't look quite as ugly and isn't expecting you to pay 60 fucking dollarydoos for shit gameplay.
>>539824893jinx laser super into mix would be right at home in hxh. or yasuo in general
is challenger a real ranked mode like master in sf?
>>539825147Hxh also had the classic turbo dogshit Japanese netcode that makes it impossible for anyone not living next to each other in Japan to get decent games
God the tech chasing is so gay in this game
>Have 2 bars>Call in super>Assist appears, does nothingThe fuck is this, a bug?
I don't know how league ranks work how many ranks to master if I'm emerald? Also what button do I press to parry and level 3
>chip people to death over and over with jinx's super to close games>opponents never seem to understand the concept of chip and let me live for ages on low HP
>>539824893What is this cope? You can see casual lobbies filled with players, ranked lobbies filled with players, how will this game ''die'' before launch?
when are they nerfing sidekick? you get all the benefits of juggernaut and assists on top of it
can you jump darius cthrow
This just carried me to diamond
Hard calling jumping after air teching from full screen by Blitz j.S1 into super is fun
I'm not enjoying the game. Unironically going back to Dix.
>>539828926This but only when C.Mommy is available
Is it only us previously DBFZ/Granblue/Marvel players enjoying this? Tekkenbabs and Dixers seem to be struggling.
Why the fuck doesn't parry sometimes come out even if there was a gap and meter
the amount of scrubs in grandmaster is really concerning
Can I get setplay off of Illaoi super tentacles on Vi sidekick?
Why doesn't Vi need to time her sways, why is she just projectile immune with 100% upkeep?
>>539829861why? isnt grandmaster MR based so it doesnt really matter?
>>539828018both of them suck and are only to help you get used to the game for playing the other fuses
>>539828245Is the projectile hitting cross up wtf
>>539829380I wish it had hot girls but I'm having fun. I also wish it had mods but as far as I know Riot's anti cheat is pretty draconian right? Either that or character skins when it officially launches.
Do you just not take any chip during fury
>main darius/blitz>fighting ahri/jinx 2x assist>spends the entire set running away and shooting>3rd game, get a significant life lead with around 60 seconds left>literally just run away until i time them outive never yelled "get fucked" so loudly over a fighting game lol
Double Down or 2X Assist for Illaoi/Vi? If I do tentacle super dhc into fists super do I get setplay?
>>539829380because they can only consume SF and Tekken with no variation>>539829561you have to do it low/high correctly
>>539831456>If I do tentacle super dhc into fists super do I get setplay?nigga training mode is right there
As a complete retard, I feel like Jinx's traps are just stupid and badMost times I get a knockdown, they can just wake up fast enough to straight up punish me for trying to go for thoseThe rest, half the time they straight up go through the opponent or get hit by a random thing and get disabledI'm sure there are 900 IQ setups with some specific fuse and assist combos off of a weird combo that nukes the opponent and deletes the game from their drive but straight up hitting the monkey up with a 2H and watching the whole thing go through the opponent and not do anything is just bad
should i commit to the game?the prospect of having a forever game entices me cause i hate when my current favorite game ends it's lifecycle but whatever i'm gonna lab today will probably be completed changed in a few months
>>539830685Yes. But he could've rolled to avoid it. That mix only hits getup attack and stand up
>>539830982>>539829380I actually shouldn't have said granblue, granblue has no sauce. I should've said something like Xrd. There's no crazy mix in grabble it's anime street fighter slowed down x4 and they never made my bro Eustace good so fuck that game.
I think darius is kinda lame but I like it when he yells HEADLESS
>>539833189Yea it's kinda lame when he presses 4 buttons and gets 70%
you guys should be mice to grubbas because this game will have a very similar playercount
I'm close to diamond, I feel I need to add some stuff to get to master, how do you do the following things:>Parry (I think?)>Roll on wakeup>The blue aoe thing on wakeup.>Pushblock.
>>539829380>>539833020this is my first tag game that i've played seriously (my only prior experience is mvc2 and only playing against the computer in that) and i'm doing fine (grandmaster) and having a great time. i played a lot of strive and sf6 (the latter is truly the most dogshit game ever made and i'm glad to be free from it)>>539833189my husband is the coolest. swatting somebody with HEADLESS at full screen because they dared press a button to set something up never gets old. i see a lot of people complain about their hits not feeling satisfying, but darius' feel fucking great>>539833315>be nice to the people that literally have nothing better to do than make fun of how dead our game is gonna beno :)
>>539829380I will say as a former DBFZ player this is scratching an itch I didn't think I had anymore.
>>539833020>and they never made my bro Eustace good so fuck that game.he's still the coolest
>>539833504>most dogshit game ever madeThat better be Strive because SF6 is better than Strive.>>539833565Me fucking too man. Me too.
The ranks feel inflated. Max got grandmaster.
>>539833504hey, not only I'm pretty sure there is a variety of players from other fgs in here shitting on 2XKO, the grubbas seemed chill with 2xko>>539716273>>539719815besides, simple distribution demands the majority of shitposters be from other games as /sfg/+/fgg/+/sfg/+/ggg/ is bigger than a single gbvs general
>>539832261in my experience most of the time when i knock someone down i just go for a grab on wherever they roll (usually they just roll forwards to close distance) which is wayy higher valueTraps are only good for when you’re fullscreen away from them you can drop a monkey or a chomper, after hitting her S1 super you can get both out, or if you have a good team comp you can swap out while your assist is beating ass and set some.
>>539833795>SF6 is better than striveis it? top level SF6 is kind of a fucking nightmare compared to strive
>>539833795sf6 has been literally nothing but "drive rush/fireball drive rush" since beta 1, dude. bison may be hot but even he wasn't enough to keep me playing that garbage. it's crazy that their lead battle designer is literally a gg player yet it's one of the most homogenous games ever made. it's fine to like it tho i just like feel like i have a right to shit on it considering how much time i spent on it>>539834180i guess one particularly loud example gave a bad impression. ok fine i'll be chill with grubbas
>>539833315grub is my favorite fighting game because I love characters with dodge mechanics and they made a system mechanic out of it.
>>539834205>Traps are only good for when you’re fullscreen away from them you can drop a monkey or a chomper,And they get hit and destroyed anywaysOr the opponent does something with projectile invul and ignores it regardless of how many traps and projectiles are on the screen and at which speed and spacing they're going
>>539834352>it's crazy that their lead battle designer is literally a gg player yet it's one of the most homogenous games ever made.IIRC the GGfag was the dev during 5 not 6
>>539835006nah they got woshige on 6 i'm 99% sure
>>539835310y-yeah I'll take the other way haha...jk Assist + Jinx laser beam, nice neutral bro
>>539835301After googling it, he is bothHe was the main guy during 5 and one of the many battle planners in 6
>>539834840Projectile invul isnt that bad. When vi or ekko dash in you can just hold minigun over them and they get smoked, Yasuo windwall you can rocket jump in on him and get a heavy starter going, or you can just laser him. Braum just takes ten billion chip and if you rocket jump back he actually just doesnt get close to you its fucked up. If they hit the trap thats a moment of weakness. If you know they go for that, you can aim a Zapper right for that opportunity and get a free combo out of it. Also monkey is pretty hard to hit if you electric it and knock it at them with a jump heavy? Nobody is going to catch that.Chompers is super dogass in comparison id basically never set it unless the guy is just doing nothing.
Why does Vi's lariat have 0 recovery and an anti air hitbox and is plus by itself and can be charged to throw off parry timing and is extremely active and is a combo starter and also an assist and
HOW MANY FUCKING ILLAOI AND EKKOS????
>>539836073man there's like 8 characters or something what do you want
>>539836073>only 3 Yasuosthat's more surprising
>>539836073bro thats a pretty good spreadEkko is the only champ with 4Also Yasuo is clearly placing higher on average than illaoi there nigga what you mean by that yasuofag?
>>539836190You get to have 2 characters per team I was hoping to at least see all characters in there on a 16 character roster in a game with 9 characters
>>539836073Oh they had another tourney? I missed it entirely. K7 placed pretty low. Hikari moving up nice.
>>539836310There's literally only 1 champion missing brothis is autistic 8/9 is pretty good way better than most games even come close to
>>539836310the only character not there is the one everyone considers the worst anyways
>>539836073what is ex assist? 2x assist?I just realized if your Yasuo dies and you have 2 bars with him you can use the fucking mickey super Yasuo assist twice in a row, that's insane
>"jinx cant deal with jumpers" - 2xkgmeanwhile pros are just freely whiffing rockets into assist cancel active tags into antiairs and getting the most illegal punishes of all time yeah
>>539837290>>"jinx cant deal with jumpers" - 2xkgNobody even said that?That's not how you write thread names in this website?Why are you phoneposting? Gob2r*ddit
lolfags, does this game have any hot latinas?
>>539837290>tagsThat literally means jinx can't deal with it
>>539837398Fuck off anon you're gonna get the Qiyanafag riled up
>>539835673Someone mentioned how this game has a severe case of schizo design where some shit has 0 recovery while others have 100f of recovery
>>539837398Yup there's exactly 1
>>539837290>Goes out of his way to prove she literally can't even use her most basic and quick projectile without having to stop playing the character to not dieLmao this nigger has never played a tag fighter before in his life and it shows
>>539837724>Jinx has a footdive>Dies if she ever uses it outside of combosGet this pathetic slut out of my way and make room for DR DOOM.
what does active tag even mean
>this goblina>hotthis game's sex appeal is like fucking 0. it's so over
>>539837724>>539837452>>539837394yes she round-start shot a projectile at the most mobile character in the game from the lowest range in the game and was completely immune to being punished in any single way This is somehow not good enough for the emeraldGODS of /VEEGEE/
>>539838161Lmao imagine being such a poor pajeet you spam the general with your rancid opinions from your phone instead of playing the game
>>539838040Sorry to say it but you're a homosexual
>>539838390snooki looking ass
>>539838040almost all characters look like goblins in their in-game models
>>539838390Man, I hate how rigid roles are in LoL sometimes>You want to play Qiyana?>You can only do so in mid lane, she will literally never function elsewhere even though she doesn't have a specialized kit requiring some lane specific gimmick>You want to play Gwen?>You can only do so in top lane, she will literally never function elsewhere even though she doesn't have a specialized kit requiring some lane specific gimmick>You want to play Leona?>You can't bruise it out in top lane or farm in the jungle and gank around, you have to play her as a support
How can I convert off of Vi 6H or are there better overheads?
>>539839053Call assist niggaWhy even overhead, she can OTG off of throws for stupid damage anyways just strike throw
>>539838897Gwen and Qiyana are both perfectly serviceable junglers and crazy otps sometimes take them to the other solo lane.I used to play top Qiyana to a 55%ish winrate up until I got to high diamond then it started doing poorly.Leona is hardlocked to being a supcuck though yeah
>>539839340>Gwen and Qiyana are both perfectly serviceable junglers and crazy otps sometimes take them to the other solo lane.How the fuck do you even gank with Gwen, your only option is to slowly walk towards the enemy lane while expecting them to be braindead and blind retards with 0 map awareness and wards
>>539840327You dont gankYou play her like a shitty scumfuck scaling jungler like Lillia or Karthus or Graves and afk clear jungle until you hit level 11 and just oneshot people off the face of the earthIt's not amazing but I would see Gwen junglers take over the game all the time and it was meta as fuck at one point like a year and a half ago? ish
>>539840619You can absolutely gank with Graves considering he doesn't have to get THAT close and has SOME range compared the cutey bluey
>>539841045DudeyOuhave clearly never played with a diamond gravesThose motherfuckersdo not gankThey are the most scumfuck freaks on the planet up there with the most depraved and degenerate animals in the pits of tartarus FUCK graves players
>>539728936Braum is such a wasted slot. I'd rather have Riven or Lee Sin than Braum.
>>539839340im hardcoded to go awooga at anything that resembles a woman with wide hips
why does it feel like any hit convert into the same full combo any waymaybe even more so than the length, must be why watching these combos got fucking old one day in
>>539841260I do...Speaking of, Graves is a cool mofo and I would like him in the gameOne of the only reworks that I don't hate
