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Rankedboar edition
>Wiki for character guides and such (Under construction)
https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/
>Official link
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/
>How do I get in?
Click the link and register for the beta or ask in the bread for an invite code
>Last round
>>539379694
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who is the most powerful of the cannon brothers?
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>nl playing 2xko for 11k viewers
>he's using my team
nice lol
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I'd rather slime desuwa
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so far the only thing that makes me scream "what the fuck were they thinking" is Yasuo in general. his super assist is also fucking retarded
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Well I memory leaked 5 matches in fuck this dogshit game
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EZ
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I can't believe I'm getting forced fifty in my ranked games...
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>>539570714
he beat a jinx/vi sidekick 5 in a row just now which is insane, i never would have imagined a total casual managing to get within a mile of jinx lol
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It's wild that they have this whole DUO SYSTEM and won't let you just matchmake for random duos vs random duos

That would be so hype
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jump block
land
button
big ass combo

please tell me what exactly there is to stop this in this game lol
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>>539572169
Parry.
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I just signed up, how long does it usually take to get an invite?
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>>539571483
Zoners in FGs are always kinda tricky to pilot, you need some knowledge or training, otherwise they're just free kills
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>see tons of Ahris in casual
>see zero Ahris in ranked
I know what you are..................
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>>539572376
there is nothing to deter people from jump blocking
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>>539572426
I can give you one if you want
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>>539572619
air grab
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>>539572169
I was actually surprised 2H is air blockable

you need specifically characters that counter air movements like blitz and darius, both have assists that grabs opponents from air
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why are all the top ranked players Xrd Rev2 players?
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>>539572834
oh yeah let me just early jump throw
fucking moron
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>>539572426
https://2xko.riotgames.com/pt-br/beta/invite#code=fbc52d8c-ef44-4446-943b-ad7d9d648ac4
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>>539572901
because rev2 players do a lot of things but play their own game
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>>539573049
you asked how to beat it and i told you
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>>539572702
>>539573336
Thank you anon
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>>539573484
wym? we at the locals every tuesday
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>>539573504
nigga pre-emptive anti airs get blocked and worse case scenario you just whiffed a move and youre going to eat a fat fucking combo all you can fucking do is jump away
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>>539570714
>NL is doing more marketing for 2xko than Riot
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>>539573642
air grab is a lot more functional than you think can you at least try it out before saying it won't help you
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>>539573794
yeah let me just reaction air throw forward when the nigga jumping at me has a coinflip OS in the air.
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This is a pro Clayton thread why does he trigger you trannies so much?
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I'm gonna win the billion dollar guys and I'm gonna wish for Riot to add Rammus since I'm a funny memer man and Rammus is the funny little meme turtle who I played in league 8 years ago. And then I'm gonna have sex with Justin Wong.
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juggernaut/sidekick yasuo players deserve death
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yea i dont think i can play ranked in this game when jinx yasuo and ekko are in their current state
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>>539575592
its not even real ranked
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jinx owes me sex
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placed silver3
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>>539575921
Literally me in a few hours
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you gain so much more points per win than you do on loss, everyone is going to be grandmaster in a couple of hours
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idk why it put my ass in emerald but i won all 5 matches
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>>539577310
yes thats how basically every ranked mode works now, it's basically just a simple ladder to get to the highest rank and then actually start fighting for proper elo
>>539577371
to make you have some grind
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this ranked shit kinda easy
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they added ranked?
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everything jinx does is so hilariously safe that if you ever lose with this char you're getting gapped like BAD
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>>539578006
no we're all just pretending
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>>539577371
It knows you can easily go higher
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>>539578279
play her, see how well you do
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>>539578279
It's a tag game, there are no unsafe moves by design.
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>get matched against a duo
>they both have black avatars
>they pick ekko and illaoi
>they ragequit when i dunk on them with ahri/darius
segregated ranked queue when?
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>>539578527
i would literally unironically die before inflicting BWAK BWAK HAHAHA CLAP CLAP BANG BWAK BWAK BWAK BAWK BAWK on my ears no thanks

>>539578334
first ever granblue poster with something nice to say, thank you charlotta
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>>539578734
>first ever granblue poster with something nice to say, thank you charlotta
the fuck you mean, retard
>>539565383
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>>539578683
just leave
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>got one and doned by a literal rioter
the biggest fucking faggot group of people in history holy shit
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Leffen is in challenger already wtf, how much did they inflate lp gain
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Usually FG players will tell new players to not focus on combos and just get a feel for the game instead.
It is usually sound advice.
Not for this game, though. Combos are so retarded and damage is so high you're better off learning some dumb ass ToD and fishing for hits instead of improving on your fundamentals
I think that fucking sucks and is horrible game design
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>>539579229
i'm not a plugging nigger, sorry
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finally fought against a streamer and he was actually streaming
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>>539579453
It's better this way so that vets won't be destroying noobs in gold/plat for 100 games
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I lost 4 of my placements and they put me in diamond.
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>>539580875
you mustve been playing in some crackhead lobbies then lol
all of my casual lobbies were pretty weak and now i'm getting bodied in ranked
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I'm really not interested in playing a game where people just gorilla rush at you for 99 seconds

I have to constantly be afraid of multiple characters from midscreen pressing a button that leads into big damage
yeah I think id rather put a garfield cock ring on and dance around 42nd street in the nude

this game just feels like strive the more i think about it
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>>539579547
Diaphones advice for this game is more or less just do whatever you can to never have to block. Pushblock, retreating guard, burst, or use parry to react to a move but try and never actually be blocking.

So someone new should actually learn the most fucked up combos they can and how to immediately pressure and mix off of your neutral buttons/ specials. You really wanna make this as close to a single player game as possible.
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>>539579547
>Usually FG players will tell new players to not focus on combos and just get a feel for the game instead.
I've always thought this was stupid.
Well not stupid but its the kind of advice someone gives because they forgot what its like to be new.
A bnb should be the first thing someone learns because it imprints basics and gives them a starting position that a gameplan can expand from.
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>>539581129
you're a moron
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>>539581206
You're a moron
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>>539581271
you're a moron
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>>539581403
You're a moron
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>Oh cool they added ranked
>"Ranked Lobby"
I could hit the Canon brothers in the skull with a baseball bat and feel nothing because there's clearly nothing in either of their skulls.
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until ranked came out i fought like 2 ahris this whole time
now every single match i have to fight an ahri and i have no idea what to do against her lol
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Gorilla game for brown skinned gorillas
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>>539578006
It's still a retarded lobby system that can be gamed so the real answer is no they didn't.
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>>539579547
>learn tod combo
>die because you dont know how to play neutral
Your shitpost aside, the thing new players should actually learn is to end combos with a super since thats where most of the damage comes from. Besides that, focusing on how to play neutral is always more important.
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pulse combo
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i'm having more laggy matches in this game than any other post-strive game
wasn't this supposed to be le ebin revolutionary rollback game originally? i've legit not once seen rollback at play here, only traditional game delaying lag
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dude this x factor bullshit has got to go. i'm so tired of getting robbed because the other person popped their rage and i got clipped for a tod on a 6 hit combo
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>>539582928
SEA?
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is there a mod to change ekko to something less ugly
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>>539583247
NA
>>539583248
there is trans pride chroma : )
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>fighting an ekko player
>all he is capable of is pressing fireball in neutral
>swap in blitz and just s2 it every time it shows up
>his brain breaks and he just starts jumping around and eating anti-airs
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>>539583594
>anti airs
story is bullshit
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are you vulnerable and cant guard during jump startup? what do you do if you block a blitz grab? I thought you could hold behind and jump but I get hit by lights if I do that
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juggernaut is the one thing I despise about this game.
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wait wait wait wait darius and yasuo have special dialogue together and it's really cute wait wait
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it's just really crazy because everyone that comes to shitpost here screams about how little fun casuals will have with this game and northernlion just streamed it for like 4 hours and seemed to have a blast with it lol
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god i hate losing to scrubs
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>>539572901
this game is literally 2player xrd
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>>539585035
i told one of them that my friends were having a fuckton of fun without playing many fighting games and he said they weren't representative of the average casual lol
some people are just terminally mindbroken
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>>539584469
your jump startup is vulnerable
so yes, you will eat light attacks
have fun guessing
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>>539585587
weird. I've seen clips of people jumping and blocking safely after getting grabbed by blitz. guess parrying it is the only option then
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>>539585746
it's a 50/50 guess between
command grab, which beats blocking
or
5L, which beats jump

parrying would lose to command grab all the same
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my placements have been stuck like this for like 8 sets wtf is going on
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>>539585859
no I mean parrying the grab to prevent this all together.
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>>539585924
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Anyone know why the tag-in super is whiffing on the second combo? Is there some sort of combo limit I'm hitting?
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>>539586063
oh, yeah
(the hook also can't grab airborne opponents, btw)
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>>539575921
update: plat, 30 points per win
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>>539586167
because you consumed your hard knockdown with that.. 2S1?
same thing happens if you use your wall slam or ground bounce with j[H] or j[2H],
then do the same
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You aren't worse at the fighting game than a Smash Brothers player, right anon?
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why the fuck aren't the training settings saved
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>>539586482
i'm a shadow of him
i picked up yasuo/jinx and am just stealing his tech
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>>539586620
Do you have his Jinx combos notated down anywhere? I'm playing Yas Ahri rn and I wanna switch because Ahri is absolute e-waste.
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I will play your game but only if they put him in.
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>>539586756
this but annie
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>>539586756
this but kassadin
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are replays just without inputs, frame by frame advance and other features...?
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>>539587421
no, sweaty
ask again in 2027
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>block jump attack
>mash
>get fucked
Strive fucked me up
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>>539585035
then he wont ever play it again
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>>539585479
then your friend wont ever play again
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>>539586167

You didn't use your assist. Can't you just tag Illaoi instead of dhc?
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>Lose 4/5 of my placement matches
Yea I'm not playing the 5th. Unlucky as fuck and I'm tired why did I play man
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>about to recover in the corner against blitzcrank
>want to do neutral wake up and jump back
>get grabbed
is tech rolling really the only way to get away from that or is the input window like 2 frames?
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>>539589667
stop caring so much retard it resets
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>>539589831
It matters, I need the bragging rights online you fat fucking loser.
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>>539588815
i always hated how throws beat jump in. 4 years of playing that game and i still rarely do it cause my brain just cannot accept that stupidity
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Why do my throw techs not work sometimes what the fuck
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>>539589869
im master stop talking to me you fucking troglodyte
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leffen is 55-1 ....
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Yea nice assist damage faggots
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>>539590475
Stop watching leffen & strive shitters
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>>539588976
>>539589115
genuinely embarrassing
why are you so desperate
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>>539590160
One of those games where if you accidentally press one of the buttons a frame earlier you're not allowed to tech, but doing it raw will start up cancel the normal into a throw.
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i swear my wr is sub 50% but i'm climbing
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>>539591513
i get 30 points per win and only 3 points per loss, so with an 11% WR i should get to grandmaster
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i thought this game was gawdlike why is it getting its shit run by sonicfox and leffen
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>>539591939
Leffen sucks sonic/noon/k7/inzem/hikari/wade would murder him. Notice leffen only plays randoms
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>>539591939
sonicfox wins s1 of every game but gives up as the meta develops and people start beating them
leffen is just farming randoms
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anon you ARE challenger, right?
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>>539592837
no but at least im not fr*nch
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>>539582928
that's a memory leak, i'm going back and forth with riot support over this shit now they're recommending me to reinstall my cpu/gpu drivers after sending them some logs
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>>539592921
deadass? that's so annoying how have they not fixed that yet
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>>539584469
it's a 50/50 you either jump and are vulnerable to mash or risk getting grabbed

if you parry the hook it's a free combo though
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>>539593074
yes, try this but i doubt it's going to work
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>>539592883
Eva
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>hop on ranked
>run into a guy that farmed the fuck out of me at the start of the beta
>know this because he had an extremely memorable name
>he has a 10 win streak
>beat him 2-0 but all the games were close as fuck
never let them tell you i don't have hands dude
fucking hell this game is fun
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Delete juggernaut
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>>539594037
delete fury on roundstart
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>>539592921
I thought I was crazy because my game crashed after rematching 10 or so times with someone but I haven't seen anyone talking about it
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>>539594209
My game isn't crashing at all but it's lagging soooooo hard after 1 hour of playing and it's only on my end no one ever complained about it.
I main Vi and I usually notice it when a character dies while in my S2 super animation, I wonder if it's my AMD GPU not handling it well or the S2 smash going into the next round.
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bro it is over for these vi mfs as soon as the teemo patch drops
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>>539591939
the sign of kusoge
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this game sucks dick
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this game whips ass
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>>539592513
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>them
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>>539590858
im watching his vods too, him and nitro are pretty good

some of the super assist are ridiculous, darius one is like 40% health
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>>539595650
i just wanted a (you) :)
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>be placed in silver 3
>win 30 points per game
>go straight to plat 3
>now i win 13 points and lose 18
>still 72/100 to diamond
lel
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>>539590991
but i love strive
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i think that right now, vi's dash grab is probably the most broken thing in the game.
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>>539597573
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>>539597580
you can tech it lil dumb ass nigga
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>>539597698
i don't like this nigger
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>>539597736
statement still stands
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>>539597580
>not Jinx super
>not Yasuo 5M
>not Darius ABC combo into 70%
>not Illaoi tentacle setup into 6 million chip damage
>not ekko unfair levels of mix
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>>539597916
yeah correct i think it's more obnoxious than any of that
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ahri combos are driving me fucking insane. This shit is so inconsistent
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I hate the recovery system in this game something fierce.
From what kusoge does this shit of recovering and being able to attack before you land come?
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>>539598610
was thinking the same thing a while ago, sometimes it just feels like it should be my turn visually but I get ass fucked because I pressed a button. Also you better land your meaty or you're fucking DEAD.
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>>539598610
almost every tag game i can think of
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>>539597916

>Not Braum shield
>Not Ahri air mixups
>Not Blitz restand assist

Now we got the whole roster covered
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Closed Beta invite code for anyone who wants it!

https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/beta/invite#code=096e20aa-8633-4093-a3c0-58c3f9e4e6cc
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i hate this brock lesnar sheboon that goes MOOSH EMOOSH MOOSH
FUCK YOU UGGO
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very tempting to decline to run the full set vs juggernaut and sidekick...
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>>539599169
clussy
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>>539599591
juggernaut is not fun to play against at all.
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does Vi Assist 2 anti air?
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>>539597916
>jinx super
the most standard of all beam supers in all of existence, you don't want to see my hyper viper beam loops lil man
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>>539599886
>>539599591
for some reason the devs decided to give them 30% defense boost at low life so for 70% of the round you think they gimp themselves by not having a 2nd char.
nono lil man they're about to activate fury and shit down your throat. nice devs.

It's like theyre retards on purpose when they designed this game.
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https://youtu.be/g7t9-GndaIA
Godton has spoken.
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>>539585035
The reason casuals won't like it isn't likely to crop up in their first play session especially since the game is still being figured out but it's already happening that people are figuring out really oppressive offsenive strings that are borderline impossible to escape from, especially if you don't understand the system mechanics really well. I guarantee you NL doesn't stick with this game nor will any other casual. It's going to have a very typical fighting game player count about 1-2 months after it comes out for real which will show like usual, only already existing FG fans are playing it long term.
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>>539600295
dont care
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>>539600213

Hi, Clayton
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aight, went from silver 3 to emerald, might call it a day here
what about you guys
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>>539600319
If you didn't care you would simply not respond. You care enough to try and influence my opinion or you wouldn't have responded or even made the original post I responded to. You will now reply "don't care" again like it somehow doesn't prove me even more correct that you do in fact care.
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>>539599898
Yes
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>>539599092
>>539599103
it's fucking ogre
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>>539600476
didnt read your post beyond seeing "ERM THEY WONT LIKE IT BECAUSE-"
youre a fag writing long diatribes about why some game you don't like is going to fail. eventually you'll start finding that tiresome and without steamcharts to post you'll just leave
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the defenders for this game are absolutely feral huh
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>>539600807
I never said I didn't like it you overly-sensitive retard.

Me recognizing it doesn't appeal to casuals =/= me not liking it. You're such a fucking baby you jumped to conclusions without reading my post then tried to pretend you didn't care what I said when you clearly. Look at this laughable level of emotion you're displaying over an assumption you made about me that isn't even true. But you don't care. Fucking lol.
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>>539598610
same I can't understand shit
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>>539601237
yea im not reading all that lol
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>>539601414
Me recognizing it doesn't appeal to casuals =/= me not liking it.

Look at this laughable level of emotion you're displaying over an assumption you made about me that isn't even true.

There's the cliffnotes for you since you obviously do care quite a bit but are too stupid to stop and read the posts you're seething over.
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>>539601553
bro im just not gonna read that sorry
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LoL babies really can't handle that their 7 year in the making fighting game is kusoge huh?
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why have zoomers idolized and emulated the niggers inability to read
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The ranked system is bugged for sure, I went 5/5 in placements and played a fuckload of casual and it placed me aspirant 1 50 RP lmao

Went on a absolute slaughter and am now emerald but I feel bad for the noobs I shit on to get here, atleast 5 of them complained about me in chat after :(
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>>539601792
its ok, youve merely hastened their departure from the game a few days, better they dont waste their time
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>>539601137
to be fair to them, this thread has been nothing but shitting on the game 24/7
yeah, the game is garbage, criticizing it is fine but if youre just going to shit up the place just go do something else
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>>539603545
NTA but one guy just jumped down my throat for saying I liked game and then explaining why I still didn't think casuals would stick around and that response was almost certainly what prompted that anon to make that post. I have seen some of the most female behavior I have ever seen on /vg/ in these threads and I feel like it's gotta because the LoL crowd are faggots. I don't play their shitty game so I'm not used to how dramatic and faggy they are. Make me glad I've never been interested in a Riot game before.
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>>539604074
i didnt jump down your throat i responded flippantly to your first post with the words "don't care" and then you got mad so i continued poking you for funsies. sorry dude!
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Rito bad, 2xko will flop
Give me a (you), you guys keep giving the other tard all of them
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>>539604623
rito IS bad
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i am on a 40 loss streak in aspirant 1. i dont know what i'm doing wrong or how to get better.
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>>539604623
Rito bad though, not sure about 2xko flopping, depends on Tokon
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you think Irelia has a good chance of getting in?
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>>539604971
if the devs werent freaks she would have been in the base roster
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Well, I got to emerald without doing anything more complex than LMHS1S2L
Now I'm getting matched with the Yasuos who have zero neutral but any touch they convert into 70% damage combos and it's a lot less fun
I'm not really interested in labbing this game because the long combos are boring as shit and hurt my hand (why so many diagonal inputs?)
I don't understand the need for these minute long combos or the huge damage. Why not leave the huge damage for happy birthdays?
well, ggs
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>>539604865
first thing to learn is anti-airs. you absolutely cannot let people jump on you for free or they'll keep doing it. watch for their jump attack then press down+heavy.
second thing is to learn just a really basic combo that ends in a super so you can deal damage.
which characters are you playing?
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>>539604971
>>539605029
literally who
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>>539604971
Wasn't irelia and riven the most popular champs back in the day
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>>539604971
there's a 0% chance she doesn't get in. i predict within the first 5 characters after teemo.
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>>539604971
>>539605278
>>539605346
Irelia is a guaranteed pick she'll probably play a lot like Ramlethal and be fucking obnoxious
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>>539605257
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=irelia_xan+
>>539605278
Irelia and Riven have always been very popular characters, yes. And Riven not being base roster is one of the most baffling choices ever.
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>>539605075
the thing to remember is that even if your character gets 2 touched, you've got 2 lifebars. like the worst a round will ever really go is getting killed in 4 touches, which is pretty average for a fighting game. that's how tag fighters and kof and stuff are.

>>539605417
absolutely not looking forward to this bitch. between her and zed coming, then we've also got yasuo and ahri, with akali absolutely joining eventually, we really are gonna be playing super ionia vs. zaun...
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>>539604549
You jumped to conclusions that were incorrect and led you to having a public meltdown over being told your emotional reaction wasn't even to anything real. You then proceeded to continue to shit your pants and throw your bottle while insisting I am mad and that you don't care. Multiple other people even made snide posts around yours pretty obviously targeted at you. Can you stop being such a dramatic faggot for everyone's sake?
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>>539605417
>>539605484

i'll be running irelia/klen thank you very much
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chances Renekton gets in? very popular top pick

also holy fuck just realized JAX ISN'T IT
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>>539605586
>and kof and stuff are.
kof has real neutral don't try to act like this game is anything like it, that' so disingenuous. There's a serious difference between "You get 2 touched after losing real neutral" and "You get 2 touched off of full screen special moves made safe by assists."
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>>539606008
people who don't play KOF and only see max combo training room videos say retarded shit like this.
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>>539605198
I'm just playing darius because i saw he was the easiest. nobody really jumps at me they just walk at me and hit me with combos until i die. i know a combo but it is slower than most of thhe other moves so i struggle to use it.
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Yasuo has to be the gayest samurai nigga I have ever seen in a game why didnt they add master Yi . Atleast that nigga has kookily vibes. Yasuo gives pure homosexual vibes.
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>>539605586
That's true but a bit disingenous. If you lose a character you are still in the game, yeah. But I don't play my two characters at the same level (and neither has anyone I've played against), but most importantly nor do I like playing both the same amount. Maybe that's on me.
Also, just last thread someone posted Darius one touching Ekko. It wasn't even Fury/Jugger shenanigans, it was a perfectly normal in-game situation, so 4 touches is not the worst a round will go, it's 2 (but I admit I don't think it's likely and it would not be fair to call this game a two-touch game).
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>>539606103
>i know a combo but it is slower than most of thhe other moves so i struggle to use it.
That doesn't make a ton of sense anon. A combo is only as slow as it's first hit. This game is VERY open in what can start a combo. You should try to learn a combo you can do after whatever move you are hitting with. The other advice that anon gave you is good. If you can train yourself to react to jump-ins with an anti-air that will carry you far when playing the other lower skill players. It's all about building blocks like that too. Get your anti-airs and hit-confirming into a simple combo down first and go from there.
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>>539606219
shut up you crispy ass rog
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>>539605746
do you have any idea how much restraint it's taking me to not respond to this post with "not reading?" frankly i deserve a medal
ill be less aggro but like the other dude said earlier, when over 50% of these threads have been people with no interest in the game shitting on it, of course people who actually like it will be rude
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>>539606446
Except I never was one of those people and I didn't shit on the game. That's the whole point you stupid dramatic faggot. Get over yourself. If anything your reactions are feeding the actual trolls, you child.
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>>539604865
FGs are rough at the start...
I'm pretty good at them nowadays but for the first 1000 games in the game I decided to learn to play I rocked a 30% winrate.
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>>539606364
i've never played a fighting game really other than smash so i am just bad. but it feels like darius's heavy launch requires you to be very close and it's pretty slow. so its hard for me to use it to start my combo without just being hit first. maybe it's just a bad combo. i don't really have any issue blocking but any time i throw an attack that isnt a quick jab or a lucky heavy that connects randomly i get hit.
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>>539606008
bro it is not that fucking deep, my point is that even if someone meter dumps you to kill in two touches you still have more lifebars, so it isn't as bad as it feels. especially in this game where you can still use your assists even if they die
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Illaoi is fucking busted
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Fury Yasuo is extremely fun to play against and will definitely stay in it's current state
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>>539606585
ill go back to niceposting a month or so from now when all the fgg fags get bored
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I struggle to imagine anybody not on the spectrum really enjoying this game at any level where people know how to play their character and use assists.
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>>539608242
even normal fgs are for autismos
this is an autismGOD genre
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>>539608620
autism can vary in degrees
fighters are normal autism
tag fighters are maximum autism
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>>539606681
You don't use a launch to start a combo except as an anti-air. You launcher is also your anti-air in this game, this is true for every character. Other good moves to start combos are lows that come out quick because if they are blocking high you hit them and as you identified, jabs are safer. To start combos with bigger moves and thus get more damage you will usually have to play reactively. Remember the advice me and the other anon just gave you? Learn to call out jump-ins because they are predictable and slow. Land your anti-air and you'll be able to do a better combo because you played reactively, called out your opponent and got rewarded for it. You opponents are doing the same when you through out big, slow moves they can react to. A lot of the things you are identifying are correct and even is basically why were giving you the advice were giving you. The other thin you can do because this is a tag game is use an assist to cover your offense and make it safer.
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>>539606875
I never said it was deep, I said you were wrong to bring up KoF because it had no relevancy to what you were saying. And I was correct about that just as you are correct about almost everything else you said in that post and this one.
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>>539608242
It's killing an otherwise really fun game for me. First fighting game I don't wanna play ranked in because I am not having fun whenever I am against some fucker close to me in rank with a super oppressive offense he probably got from a twitch streamer. I'm praying they tone down assists but I'm not holding my breathe. I think it's funny people keep saying Jugg isn't fun to fight when the most fun I had was a long set with a Jugg Blitzcrank that was playing it like a normal fighting game.
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>>539608620
Normalfags do enjoy SF and even Tekken though. This game is exclusively for autismos.
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>>539609858
jugg blitz legit kills you off one grab cuz he can dash cancel afterwards and pick up the combo.. it's the first thing that's going to get nerfed
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>>539610272
Off regular grab or command grab? Whatever the combo is he wasn't doing it.
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Redpill me on Qiyana
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why isn't Katarina in the game?
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>>539610408
It's what I've been saying.
The game is fun until you get someone who goes past LMH+special
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>>539609858
>I'm praying they tone down assists but I'm not holding my breathe
The character designer is an I-No main and the dude in charge of balance is a DNF Duel shill. They are not toning down assists.
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>>539610635
they said katarina ended up turning into their test bed character
they needed to test a DP? they gave katarina a DP
they needed to test a fireball? they gave katarina a fireball
etc

so it's to the point where there isn't really a 'katarina' right now
that's why they're pushing her back to a post-release champ
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>>539610801
Damn, that's sad. DNF Duel is seriously the worst garbage I've ever played. Game's dead in half a year if they don't let their egos die. I'm a huge fighting game autist and this is putting me off and I don't see this issue getting better with time as people discover even more broken shit.
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went against someone with an extremely gay overhead reset, there's way too much tech to know about in this kusoge
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>>539611006
Yeah some Darius was doing a string with a Blitz assist that I seriously could not figure out how to get out of and just had to guess everytime he pulled me with the Blitz assist. I still don't know what I was supposed to do. Parry? I have no fucking clue.
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>>539610408
yeah, you had fun not because of jug but because the guy sucked.
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>>539611454
the game is unironically more fun when the guy sucks
not because you stomp him, but because this game is too bloated, it's more fun when there's less stuff happening
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>>539611454
Nah it was still partially because of Jugg. Nothing could tilt me more than some of these assist-covered strings people are doing where I can't even find the gap or see what the fuck is going on. Doubly so since this game's tag mechanics and particle effects are so cluttered and convoluted half the time I can't tell when someone tagged. No amount of dying off a single throw could be more frustrating than this shit where I can't tell what's going on or how to beat it.
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>>539611642
there's too many mechanics.......
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>>539611642
yeah, that's how fighting games are in general. you have much more fun playing with people around your level
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>>539611868
No, not really.
It's a particular trait of this game because the lower you go, the more of a traditional FG it is, the higher you go, the grimier it gets.
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>>539611758
There are. I'm not that anon and it's the most consistent thing I've seen other people that play fighting games agree with me upon.
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>>539611868
Except this is the only fighting game I am enjoying more when I play people worse than me not because it's easy wins but because I don't have to learn how to respond to the 80th degenerate set-up I've faced that day. I agree 100 percent with what he's saying and its sad because it feels like there's a decent game buried in there.
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>>539611758
it really does have infinite stuff in it, and it's only gonna get more complicated over time. but to me, that's a good thing. i feel like i can keep pushing my gameplay further and further. in sf6 the only thing you could work on is reacting to jumpscares better.
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>>539605484
Not having the obvious coomre bait champs in is a very strategic choice, its gonna bring a solid chunk of players in right when the game starts to die down, honestly im surprised they put in jinx and vi so early but I guess they need to capture the Arcane audience while its still in peoples memory
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>>539612191
Oh you've never actually played a fighting game. It's all making sense now, including how defensive you are. I love how I can always tell when it's your posts too by how you write. You were the guy in the thread the other day saying really long combos are why fighting games have depth aren't you? No one is buying your larping homie.
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>>539612191
>it really does have infinite stuff in it
Really? like what?
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>>539612191
>Infinites in a fighting game are actually a good thing
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>>539612320
>Oh you've never actually played a fighting game

>>539612675
i didn't say infinites... i said the game has a lot of stuff in it to learn big dog
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>>539612227
>Not having the obvious coomre bait champs
Ahri is the game though
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>>539612337
There was one using Yasuo assist but I think it was already patched out because unlike that anon, the devs aren't completely retarded.

>>539612724
Hey smart guy, if three people all thought you meant infinite combos, maybe all three of us aren't the retards. Just a thing you might wanna consider.
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>>539612935
Nobody thought he meant infinites you mongloid, i know /vg/ cant into reading comprehension but jesus christ
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>>539613230
At least two people did.
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>>539606681
Genuinely if you are new to fighting games you should do all the advanced lessons in the learn tab, I am not new and it still helped me a ton cause I only have a few hours of guilty gear experience. Currently in diamond and it seems like the majority of players I verse have either not done these lessons and dont know about some stuff or are too dumb to do it in a match.
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>>539613230
I did.
see
>>539612320

I know /vg/ cant into reading comprehension but jesus christ

>>539612724
That picture means nothing to me. You saved that from here for all I know. Check out how many hours I have.
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>>539604971
i think her and akali are in contention with each other
and idk akali might have the edge what with kda and all
so i wouldnt bet on it
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>>539613315
>>539613478
Apologies, nobody above a grade 2 reading level thought he meant infinites.
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>>539613478
>That picture means nothing to me. You saved that from here for all I know. Check out how many hours I have.
lol, okay. do you want to be steam friends and confirm it?
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>>539612724
youve never played a real fighting game
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>>539613594
You say that when the poster in question never capitalizes anything and speaks like an ESL. Someone is below a grade 2 reading level and it ain't me. Sorry that I assumed that someone that types like a retarded child also talks like one too.
>it really does have infinite stuff in it
That's exactly how I would expect a retarded ESL to refer to infinites. Especially because that's a thing they frequently do, stick the word stuff into sentences in places where it's awkward or doesn't make sense. Even the way he meant to use it is still kind of that ESL brand of not quite getting how to use the word.
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>>539610486
hupa hoop
mega bitchy prissy personality
fattest ass, hips and thighs in all of league
5 feet tall exacty
vague elemental magic
made in a lab solely for instant loss
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who got jinx/ahri combos
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>>539613850
do you want me to say "stop moving the goalposts," "post your hours then," or "okay lol"

>>539613867
me when i encounter perfectly normal english and try to criticize it because i'm esl (to make it clear, i'm calling you esl)
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>>539613801
Not really I'd rather you learn to type properly so your posts are more readable. Anon, see that button that says "Shift"? You're actually allowed to push it.
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>>539613995
there should have been a comma in your post after the word "really"
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>>539613987
>me when i encounter perfectly normal english and try to criticize it because i'm esl (to make it clear, i'm calling you esl)
This feels like a joke but I know you're just really fucking dumb. You have a sentence fragment, with no capitalization and you used parenthesis where you should have used a period and just started a new sentence. Again anon, please learn how to talk like a big boy and you won't be misunderstood.
>>539614127
Don't you mean a comma stuff?
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>>539612320
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strive and sf6 are ass but at least he plays fighting games so im on his side, ya faggots.
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>>539614210
if i type with proper grammar you won't have anything to poke at me with lol
but you're just posting to post, same as me
we're not so different, you and i!
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>>539614407
Don't you mean proper grammar stuff?
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>>539613950
I'm just going to rip off chrisg's stuff, he's been playing that team
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>>539613315
can you even call them people
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>>539614523
More so than ESLs that refuse to use capitalization and over use the word "stuff" as sentence filler.
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>esl schizo losing it's mind
Never fails
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>>539614589
"over use" is incorrect btw retard
if you're going to call someone ESL, make sure you don't make basic grammatical errors, thanks.
also NTA but you're a massive faggot
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>>539614589
*gives you reddit gold*
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>>539614589
this gets more pathetic with every post please keep at it
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>>539614691
And yet you understood me and three people misunderstood the other guy who is actually ESL.
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>>539613867
>That's exactly how I would expect a retarded ESL to refer to infinites.
if you actually played fighting games it's very clear and obvious what he meant. my god, please go somewhere.
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>>539614791
my english is better than yours + i have more hrs in fighting games than you which makes me a better person overall
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>>539614756
I don't really value the opinion of people that can look at that retards posts and think it's weird I misinterpreted his stupid way of talking.
>>539614825
Clearly not since multiple people misunderstood him.

You guys keep calling me pathetic but this general is filled with posts that have nothing to do with the shitty game you all like so much. Why aren't you playing 2XKO or talking about it instead? This general has a terrible vibe and you guys are responsible. Some of the only posts helping out a new player were made by me meanwhile you guys are doing this shit still. Keep it up.
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>>539614998
>Clearly not since multiple people misunderstood him.
cause you and whatever other dumb retard that misunderstood don't play fighting games, you stupid faggot. how many times do i have to tell you?
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>>539614998
ill stop but you have to say sorry for calling me a retard 800 times
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Saar, give me (you)s my engrish is good i swear
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>>539614885
You will always sound dumb and unintelligible if you use the word stuff like you did anon. Keep going though, like I already said I don't really like this game much. I also think it's unlikely to get better after talking to people in this thread about what kind of games the devs like. Keep shitting up your own general for a game you apparently like though. You've made like a dozen posts now that have nothing to do with the game and clearly aren't playing it.
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thinking "infinite stuff" means infinite combos makes you an ESL, idk how retarded you have to be to even come to that conclusion. he was talking about the mechanics.
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>>539615076
I don't want you to stop though. I think it's funny you're shitting up a general for a game you like and I don't.

>>539615068
If three different people all made the same misunderstanding I kind of doubt its on me. You can say whatever you want, you won't convince me otherwise because of that. It tells me there was obviously an issue with how he talks which is further proven by all the words that come out of his mouth.
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>>539615103
here you go kiddo don't spend it all in one place

>>539615115
>and clearly aren't playing it.
not grinding it too hard since it's all gonna be reset anyway but nah ive played a good bit and i think it's fun
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>>539615215
has to be some kind of bait or meta joke or whatever
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>>539615215
I already explained why. That's how ESLs use the word stuff.
>>539615309
So how does that image make this general less of a shitpost central?
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>>539615397
>That's how ESLs use the word stuff.
you would know wouldn't you lmao
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Saar please why are you making fun of me, you people are meanies, my engrish good infinite means infinite combo, how you dont know it's common
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game must be pretty shit since you'd all rather waste your time arguing about stupid shit over talking about the game
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>>539615397
so do you wanna play a set or what
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>>539615397
>So how does that image make this general less of a shitpost central?
there is 0 reason to fight it. it's 4chan, it's a new thread (specifically for a new fighting game), it's going to be an unusable general for at least a month or so until the trolls get bored.
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>riot game
>expecting it not to be filled with indians shitflinging
be glad kda skins or akali werent added so buckposter wouldnt get involved
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>>539615456
Yes, because there are a lot of you on this site and it's the only time I see the word "stuff" used so regularly and incorrectly. Still not posting about the super fun game I see.

>>539615543
Not really, I'm probably done with this game based on what people in this thread have told me. If the guy in charge of balance defends DNF Duel it's beyond over.
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>>539615537
i think this game does not have much future in this board
this is not to say the game is bad or dead or anything, games like valorant and cs are doing fine and they don't have generals in here
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>>539615683
i played for about 4 hours today after work. don't really care to talk about it with a bunch of troll retards in here, sorry.
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>>539615596
>it's going to be an unusable general for at least a month or so until the trolls get bored.
Well that's simply not true because it's not going to make it that long based on how little anyone here actually cares about the game. It's funny to see so many people trying to shit on me when I made some of the only posts in this thread actually talking about the game.
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>>539615683
after all the implications that i'm retarded and don't play fighting games you're afraid to play me?
you're ducking the fucking set bro?
okay have a good night lmao i hope you get some dick in that pussy real soon
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>>539615827
im unaware of what your posts were besides calling some guy ESL over your own stupidity but i highly doubt they were quality or worth reading if those are anything to go by.
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>>539615810
>Uh I'm not in a game's general to talk about the game idiot
And you say I'm pathetic. I cannot think of worse use of your life stuff.

>>539615894
Even if I had a desire to play this shitty game more I wouldn't play you because you seem psychotic and unstable and I would never want to give you my Steam name, especially after I just got a thread of angry bored retards mad at me. I'd rather not get spammed with trade and friend requests for a month because you just post my steam name on here instead of actually playing me.
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>>539615894
Can you even play this third worlder, aren't the lobbies region locked
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i thought emerald was good but its below diamond...
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>>539616074
it's a riot ID not steam ID tho
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>>539615928
They are compared to the rest of this thread. It's amazing how much you guys are resisting talking about the game.
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Plz Saar, talk about the game, stop making fun of me PLEASE
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>>539616215
My mistake I meant if I played anything with you it would be on Steam since you claim to play SF6 and Strive I'd play a set of one of those... but I won't for the reasons I just said.
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>>539616347
oh im not the guy who asked you but ok i got ya
i have multiple riot IDs/steam IDs to play with people on 4chan.
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>>539600021
>heh lol it's just standard!
This is easily the most complained about thing in the entire game now retard nice one.
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>>539616301
Yeah you guys probably should if you want this game and general to last. I won't be here forever to bump it for you guys.
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>>539604971
>Hey do you think [popular character] has a chance to get in?!
Where do these braindead mongoloid fucking faggot retards come from?? We've had 15 years of rosterfaggotry that you troglodytes have injected into your bloodstream without even an ounce of critical thought I hate all of you viscerally and hope you cease to exist.
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damn i thought parrying jinx's super was gonna be easy but what the actual fuck is this nonsense? do you have to mash it ASAP?
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>>539616787
It doesn't auto parry the whole thing yeah, its a little cursed, I don't see anyone bother trying to parry the full thing
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Ekko backdashing x99 while waiting for assist to return and or throwing fireballs is some really engaging shit
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>>539620310
Good thing 2x assist makes it even more fucking annoying to deal with!
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>>539620310
you just don't understand the superior vision of this game. infinite stuff like that means infinite skill.
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Damn, the thread died completely after the spergout
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>Lost every placement match
>Get Plat 2
God it's over man. I was in Chris G lobbies now I'm plat 2 and it recommended me to move to lower lobbies now. It's fucking over.
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the small roster count makes learning all of the characters so easy
yeah it's bad but now i can do this thing that i can't do but really want to with other fighting games, like i avoid picking up new dlc characters because i want to learn the roster but never get to
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I'd like to play ranked, but my game keeps exploding as soon as I try to play a game
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>Get to play ranked
>everyone using ekko
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I hit Diamond 3 as Juggernaut Ahri...
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>>539623456
Just wait til you climb a lilttle and it's all Yasuos
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>>539623456
This but Ahri desu. I have not seen that bitch at all in casual but now that rank is out, every match is either Ahri/Vi or Ahri/Jinx and I don't know what to do against her. Fucking annoying.
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>>539621549
The reason you find it easy to learn them is because they're all easy to learn, doesn't matter if there was 6 or 20
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That yasuo dash is a fucking crossup?
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>>539624174
:)
It's hard to say who's the most privileged character in the game but he's definitely up there.
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>>539624250
It's between Vi and Yasuo, depends on which you value more: a projectile or a reversal
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>>539624387
I think Vi might win out just because of how ridiculously juiced her OTG pickup assist and supers are. Yasuo's crazy too, though.
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This TampaNeverSleeps tourny is great.
I hope official tournies allow bout Duo's and SIngles in the same bracket.
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>>539624012
well no but i don't think learning characters in any fighting game is easy
it's easier in 2xko because of directional inputs but not every character covers every direction like in smash so you still need to know your movelist
i don't think learning the movelist is sufficiently learning the character though, you should know what to do with all of your moves in a match if you want to learn a character
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>>539621332
hopefully on full release they fix ranked. you shouldn't be able to place higher than gold and most people should be in iron/bronze to start off.
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Seriously, just tone down the damage and combos. You can leave the tag degeneracy and mixups in, just fucking gut combos and the damage
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What's Riot's policy on multiple accounts on the same PC? My roommate wants to play 2XKO here too.
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>>539625140
I think you should be able to 2 touch people (without burst) but people aren't even optimizing their damage and killing in 2 touches relatively comfortably. And that's not even counting double down. I don't want combo length reduced because that just hurts creativity and optimization, but I do think the damage is a little too much.
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>>539579547
>Not for this game, though. Combos are so retarded and damage is so high you're better off learning some dumb ass ToD and fishing for hits instead of improving on your fundamentals
I've noticed that this seems to be the case in a lot of matches I've been playing lately. I'll fight someone on a 20 game winstreak and just not be allowed to play, but if I disrupt their gameplan it feels like they don't really know how to respond.

I'll still lose because I'll guess wrong one more time and they'll regain momentum, but it's still funny frustrating to see
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>>539625409
Fighting those players is crazy sometimes. You fuck their setup one time, and their apm drops to "confusedly walk around for a bit and press 5m a few times until assist is ready again." They're like a level 1 bot until they get a touch on you.

>>539625225
Shouldn't be a problem, when I was lurking /lolg/ there was a guy who no joke went through 10 or so accounts over the span of a couple months because he kept running it down and getting banned.
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>>539614504
>Trying to use Ahri as a zoner/keepout character
I get that he's THE nigger to play like that but Ahri ain't that
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I cannot win a single match with Vi/Blitz
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Strive sucks because rounds end in 10 seconds and your character gets 2 touched
This game's rounds last more than 60 seconds, you get 4 touches but it still sucks
amazing
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>TNS grandfinals is a Yasuo/Illaoi team mirror
Holy fuck man
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>>539625849
Eh, at least it's a 2v1. It's entertaining to watch.
The constant fullscreen backdashing is getting really old though....
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>>539625849
honestly I'm just so fucking tired of Yasuo and Illaoi but this is still fun to watch because of the doubles versus singles set-up
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I've been watching so much footage from many many players current rankings go like this;

>Sonicfox
>Supernoon
>Hikari
>K7
>Nitro
>Dekillsage
>Inzem
>HookGangGod
>Diaphone
>Johnathan Tene

Anyone not on this list doesn't enter tournaments or play other good players.
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>>539625140
Has there been any fighting game where they have a small hard damage cap? Where you literally do no damage but still allow you to do long combos for style and corner carry/hard knockdown?
Like a better Fantasy Strike and without the ToDs.
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>>539625595
Blitz assist grab honestly doesn't feel that good to me.

>>539625935
>The constant fullscreen backdashing is getting really old though....
This shit is fucking miserable. Yasuofags have literally 0 brain and don't even need one due to how he's designed, everyone else works so much harder to get in and this retard just backdashes 8 times in .1 second, puts up a wind wall, and then you have to guess.
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>>539626486
>Blitz assist grab honestly doesn't feel that good to me.
Ya i'm starting to feel that where every other assist make the strings safe. I just don't know what to use with Vi.
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>>539625935
>fullscreen backdashing at round start
>move forward
>backdash
>start backdashing yourself over and over
>opponent stops
we dancin or fighting, fuckface. and it's always fucking yasuos and ahri players.
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>>539626615
>I just don't know what to use with Vi.
Do you mean what character to pair her with, or how to get in with her in neutral? Her command dash seems to be pretty good at letting her zip in safely, but if you were considering pairing a different character with her than Blitz, just anyone who can put projectiles on the screen to hold space for you is really strong. So Ekko Jinx and Ahri. Maybe even Braum if you're feeling froggy.
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>>539625849
There's only 9 chars.
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>>539627615
right lol
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I am the mythical casual, I lost every single one of my promos playing sidekick ahri spamming pulse combos and placed emerald 3
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>>539628378
I believe in you. Keep fighting the good fight.
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I did the jumping puzzle in the casual lobby and nothing happened......................................
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who pairs well with braum? I see nobody playing him but I think he's pretty alright
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Every normal in this game moves you forward, just like in MVC2.
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>>539629168
I feel like he's a solid ally for any champ. His wall assist alone really helps enable the slower champs like Darius deal with projectile spam.
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>>539629168
Braum is pretty garbage but anyone who has generally hides behind using midranged normals loves Braum's assist and Braum loves people who can lock people down.
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>>539629440
>Braum is pretty garbage
Is he though? I feel like he's underexplored.
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>>539625140
There is a lot more wrong about this game than the values
because not only is the damage too high, but its also too low.
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The heave after the second S1 whiffs like 80% of the time. What am i doing wrong? This is for Vi.
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I'm so bored of doing my combo on people. No I'm not going to let others do it to be but man, it just feels like I just poke at neutral, combo, mix, combo and then land a gamewinning mix after and that's the game.
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>>539624825
>well no but i don't think learning characters in any fighting game is easy
retard
they all play exactly the same in THIS game

the difference between learning yasuo and Illaoi is comparatively tiny in comparison to learning Adon or Gouken
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>>539629748
Just like turd strike
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>learn yasuo stuff
>see yasuo in every match on every stream
>get bored of seeing yasuo
well fuck
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>>539629701
I haven't tried Vi at all but I'll boot up training mode in a minute to see if I can hit this consistently.
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Why does every Yasuo keeps jumping? ANddoes he really need to be able to convert off every stray hit?
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>jump away
>dash away
>super jump away
>dash under
>pushblock
do all of these things
eventually even a retard with 0IQ can tag you with a light / medium and their combo WILL NOT DROP no matter what the screen position/ height is.

If you needed a sign for a more babified retard masher game this is it.
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>accidentally made my 2nd account on JP instead of NA
It's over for me...
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even max of all people looks miserable playing this shit
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12 rollback Ekko is pretty SSS-Tier
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>>539629701
It took me a bit to manage to hit it, it's just about getting the right timing after hitting the second s1. Don't wait too long.
Also, if you REALLY can't hit it and don't want to keep grinding this combo, you can just skip the H and go straight to s2>h>s1>super. You don't lose that much damage. Hope this webm helps you see the timing a bit.
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>>539632708
wrong he said the word "cool" and "dood" at least 50 times.
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>>539632708
Max is known for his love of hardcore high difficulty high execution fighters, after all! Of course TUKO is below him!
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>>539630902
> ANddoes he really need to be able to convert off every stray hit?
>>539631025
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>>539633108
max loved marvel 3 and was the biggest content creator for that game, if even he doesn’t like it it’s unironically over
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>release ranked
>still in closed beta
they really should just stop pretending its a beta and just release the damn game already so there can be a decent playerpool
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>>539633313
>so there can be a decent playerpool
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>>539632708
Max is fucking wack, but when Diaphone wasn't laughing his ass off playing with K7 Showoff he looked dead inside and that nigga is giga positive
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>>539633287
>do you have any idea who I used to be 15 years ago!!!
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>>539633108
this webm is a half self-own
yeah, he might be a faggot but no one likes playing that crap, it's why it's dead
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There's only ONE lobby for all of JP ranked...
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I like how they gave Jinx all these cool traps and ways to manipulate them if you hit them with different normals like Venom in Guilty Gear one of my favorite characters in all fighting games.
There is literally zero opportunity to ever set these up because anyone can dash midscreen and press a normal and hit you from half the screen away into a TOD.
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>>539633646
it’s really only funny because he likes larping as a baiken main, because any normal person would also uninstall after playing slayer
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>>539633938
Slayer is in the bottom half of the cast when it comes to obnoxious Xrd characters.
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You're mechanically mature for your rank...
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I have thousands of hours in this genre and I'm starting to become convinced that it's not very good and it might be niche for a reason.
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The announcer in this game fucking sucks, it feels they just grabbed whatever cheap LA wannabe VA they could find, they have zero impact, no gravitas, nothing.
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>>539634141
no way, at lower levels where people don’t know how to deal with BDC slayer might as well be fucking johnny
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>>539633520
he probably realized he can't title his next video "I won another tournament" and got sad
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>>539634141
is this supposed to make xrd look better
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>>539634287
the sf4 announcer still mogs every other entry in the genre
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>>539634407
True, but even other modern fighters get the announcer right, 2XKO's just sucks ass
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>>539634405
No, it's supposed to make it look worse. It's not a very good game. Still better than 2xKO though.
>>539634307
Nobody even knows what BDC is "at lower levels". At the level where you get Slayers consistently doing BDC you have way more obnoxious kusoge shit to deal with.
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Dude they have to fucking do something about this Fury thing. Most fraudulent shit imaginable.
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>>539634287
everything not gameplay in this game is absolute bottom of the barrel shit
menus, art style, aesthetics, character select, lobbies, literally anything you can think about
seriously, outside of a match, what does this game offer?
compare it to granblue, it's fucking ogre
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I like that this game is 3 gigabytes.
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>>539634569
10 years in development btw
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>>539633313
>they really should just stop pretending its a beta
It is a beta. They'll have at least one more mechanic in by launch.
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>>539634569
You don't need to exclude gameplay from that list.
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>>539634657
dude they’re not adding more fucking mechanics after beta, what you see is what you get
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>>539634569
it really does speak to what type of people made this and their priorities, specifically they're hobbyists not actual game designers.
Hobbyists are gonna focus hard on shit they like, which is the combos and tag mechanics while leaving the rest in the dust because thats "less important" it's also why we got the strive lobby system, because they're old heads thinking about the old days and not how modern people play, which yeah will probably impact the game in the long term, I know they said they were gonna focus on getting out more characters but they really should consider more ways to play, the fact there seems to be no word on combo trials is crazy. and yeah the artstyle fucking sucks, it's the most corpo-friendly "not-anime" shit I've seen in a while and while I suspect riot had a say in it I wouldn't be surprised if the actual art was a low prio too because these hobbyists are so gameplay focused.
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>>539634752
>Thinking they'll be able to resist not bloating this game even more with anything but characters
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>>539634752
>hmm guys, we didn't add any EX moves, EX moves are hyped
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>>539634995
EX moves with an incredibly dumb input to make the control scheme even worse than it currently is seems like a perfect choice, I'm surprised they aren't in the game already.
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>>539634874
Have you seen blitz, jinx, darius the backgrounds?
the art direction is quite good.
Illaoi, Vi and Ekko are probably the worst offenders but the rest is quite alright.

Like seriously look at SFV and SF6 fucking ugly fucking games with horrid animations.
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>sf6
>horrid animations
retard
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>open 2XKO
>stare at Vi's ugly mug
>go to the queue
>stare at my ugly ass mii shit character
>join the strive tower lobby
>get into a cabinet
>character select UI has a fucking seizure every time i confirm something
>you have to press once to be able to select your character, makes it clunky as fuck

>open Granblue
>a shit ton of different art pieces for the menus, one for each tab and then one for each option in the first tab
>big ass lobby, comfy as hell, full of useless shit to do but who cares it's fun
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>>539634287
Just change to jp
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>>539635309
its made by pajeets re-working mocap most of it looks like absolute shit with zero weight or impact coupled by horrendous fucking hitboxes.
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>>539635214
>Have you seen blitz, jinx, darius the backgrounds?
Yes, they're not that good looking
>the art direction is quite good.
no it's really fucking bland


>Like seriously look at SFV and SF6 fucking ugly fucking games with horrid animations.
>horrid animation
nevermind you're not being serious
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>>539635309
SF6 objectively has worse animations than SF5. Just compare the tatsus for example.
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>>539635505
retard
ed alone is better animated than this entire game put together
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>>539635309
>defending sf6's absolutely putrid look
well at least we know where you're shitposting from lol
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>>539635612
go play battlefield 6 i think thats more up your ally.
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>>539635612
>Yes, they're not that good looking
>no it's really fucking bland
I'm genuinely curious how your mind works.
Please provide examples of what is good/bad show examples why its bad and show other examples from other games that does it well.
Please use stylized examples and refrain from using realism.
I won't shit on you, IM GENUINELY curious where you're getting this idea from.
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>>539635861
There's a difference between animation and look of the game. For example SF5 looks awful but has quite nice animations. SF6 is terrible in both regards though, so I have no idea what that anon is on about.
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>>539635879
that's a random attempt of trying to dismiss me, but I'll take it as you admitting you're wrong.
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>>539635861
you can hate sf6’s RE engine slop look all you want but saying it’s badly animated just shows you’re a retard looking for excuses to shit on it
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>>539635970
There's no real point in engaging the people who are here to shitpost. They're brainwashed console warrior morons whose entire lives are staked on proving their game is better and will outlive yours.
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>>539635970
>Please provide examples of what is good
Granblue, DBFZ, Strive
>Please provide examples of what is bad
SF6, 2XKO, SF5, SF4, COTW, All 3D KoFs
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Duos are the funnest part of this game, even just playing duo sidekick is a fun experience even if you're supporting a turbo shitter.
I think it's the most fun I've had playing a fighting game in a duo and shit talking the opponent together
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>>539636149
No open up paint on your PC and provide visual examples without outlines.
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>>539636194
with outlines**
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>>539636194
I don't even know what the argument is or what side you're on
Granblue good
2XKO bad
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>>539636295
I don't care about the argument anymore I want to know why anon think like this.
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>>539635970
>I'm genuinely curious how your mind works.
it works fine, yours is the one that can't understand that people have this thing called opinions.
>Please provide examples
I'm not gonna do a whole ass breakdown for you, but it really is as simple as the games artstyle has zero style to it, it has no personality, it's just bland vaugely anime looking with some shoddy animations, lame ass supers, it has no energy to it, dislike SF6 all you want it has an actual art direction, even SFV had it, the models just sucked on the earliest models but animations were always stellar.
>Please use stylized examples and refrain from using realism.
what does this even mean, this isn't about realism, 2XKO just looks bland as fuck
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>>539636425
Yeah I really don't get where you're coming from. open up paint I need to see where you're going with this.
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>>539636379
Like what
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good animations btw
lol...
lmao...
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>>539636674
yeah? they look fine and flow together naturally?
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the graphics are the least of this game’s problems
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>>539636509
>open up paint
no
Just understand I find 2xko dreadfully bland to look at, it's not even that its all bad, but it's so "how to draw anime" its so safe and bland, especially in light of other fighting games, hell even other f2p games, and thats really it, 2xko just looks bland and has some really poor posing for some characters, theres no secret that Jinx is the best looking character because she actually has some exaggeration to her.

If you're wondering about fighters I think look good, basically anything Arcsys because they really go the extra mile to nail the artstyles and expressions, SF6 is weird at first but I admire its dedication to work within the RE engine and makes the mix of more stylished and realistic leaning elements work, and recently I've been adoring Deadlock's artstyle, not a fighting game yes but its still a game that puts much focus on character design like fighting games.

2XKO could've easily looked better, hell they could've tried emulating arcanes style because they're already trying for that audience, but nah, bland oversatuated characters, no real personality all around, boring ass menues mixing black and green for some esport flavor, just overall boring safe corpo shit.
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>>539636882
Interpolation is not the value of animation.
Keyframing gives you a good sense of the feel of an animation and its weight.
proper use of stills, and smearing is a sign of good animation work and attention to detail.
Especially when it comes to fighting games this visual information is KEY.
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>>539637045
I respect this more than your initial arguments, thanks. Jinx and Vi are night and day.
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i'm gamer
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Say what you will, at least BBTAG had the decency to let me lose in 22 seconds instead of making me watch someone do their ToD
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>>539637256
yeah and all the moves are properly keyframed and easily readable? I legitimately have no idea why or where you think bison’s animations look bad other than “the keyframes on those moves he’s had since the 90s look goofy”
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>>539637349
these icons r so bad
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>>539637349
me too
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>>539637530
much like the power glove

>>539637576
good work bwo
i think we are probably evo ready
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>>539637256
SF6 is keyframe though, yes they used motion capture but a lot of studios do this, they still keyframe out things, the motion capture is just there to speed up the work, even SFV used motion capture, it's only bad when its like NRS and they make bad motion capture and don't consider how moves are meant to work together or just make them look weak.
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>>539637407
Those bison animations are just pure interpolation. no frame stands out in my mind its "too smooth" if that makes sense.
There is nothing there for my mind to grasp onto when he begins to spin in the psycho crusher he becomes cartoonishly fast compared to how slowly and methodically he moves otherwise.
Compare this to his CVS2 sprites.
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>>539637759
you can clearly see the keyframes on impact, it’s especially obvious on the double punch that sets the bomb or every hit of ex scissor kicks
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>>539637976
You're seeing P1 hitstun dude
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>>539637759
nta but no they are very clearly keyframed, I think it could just be that SF6's more realistic texture work is fucking with your brain which it does with a lot of people, but you can pause and go frame by frame and see that it is keyframed.
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Find people to duo queue with is so hard in a game where they talk about that feature so much................................................................

I wish I could just queue with randoms for it.......................................

Have guaranteed 4 person matches........................................
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>>539638068
some day we'll get a lobby going and then we'll have lots of fun doing with and against each other
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>>539638061
go into training mode and make all those moves whiff.

>>539638068
literally all duos/ jug/sidekick players are dodged.
game is already dogshit enough I don't need a worse experience with tards
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>>539638158
The fact you can see your opponent before hand and dodge in ranked is insane to me

>>539638145
Yeah...........
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>>539638050
it’s almost as if that’s the point
the key part of the animation is the one that stays on screen because of hitstun
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>>539638158
The two times I fought against duos the other player was 10 times worse than their partner
Why would anyone dodge that?
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>>539638206
No its not, there is anticipation, follow through, and reelback/ recovery.
all of which is hardly present in everything. You're considering HITSTUN on impact as the keyframe but thats not what the concept means.

Go into training mode and do those moves they are horribly made. Its not SFV cody / sakura bad but its still very bad. I didn't even pick bison specifically its just a webm i have saved for other reasons.
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WHEN IS THIS GAME COMING TO CONSOLES
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>>539638158
>go into training mode and make all those moves whiff.
they look fine?
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>>539638338
why would I waste my time playing 50% of a good match
and why on ea
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>>539638461
>No its not, there is anticipation, follow through, and reelback/ recovery.
????
that’s a good thing, are you under the impression that keyframe animation should be some hideously choppy bullshit like in cotw where you see the character teleport between frames?
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>>539638493
when beta ends (when teemo releases (in a couple weeks probably))
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>>539638338
and why on earth would I want to potentially have to read two players minds.
just no.
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>>539638068
>Find people to duo queue with is so hard
You all have friends, don't you?
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>>539638493
2026 probably along with the actual release (I seriously doubt it will "come out" this year)
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>>539638596
which do you think would look better in motion?
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“this game is complete fucking dogshit, donate more money or i’m uninstalling”
-maximillian dood
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Who's the best 2xko content creator?
Leffen?
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>>539638819
you didn’t answer the question
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>>539639051
I purposefully ignored it
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>>539638761
They already said earlier that "full release" is this year. Remember that full release will only have 10 champs, so after they release Teemo (lol) they have their full starting roster (lmao).
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>>539639231
10 character tag fighter...
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>>539639231
>Remember that full release will only have 10 champs
I wish I didn't, I was giving them some charity with it being next year, fuck man 10 characters after 10 years
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>>539639651
cringe
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Iron Lobbies are wild.....
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- ( THE HYPOTHETICAL SUPER ) -
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>>539639651
most neutral heavy matchup, one hit = dead
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bros im straight up so sick of seeing my own yasuo combo
this shit needs to be shorter across the board
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>>539640840
cringe ass ionian rolls world's worst blunt, asked to leave noxian strip club
but seriously why does he need 30 hit meterless combos
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>>539640840
Just play any other character windcuck
Nobody else is as bad as Yas
That guy has the longest combos by far and theres also no variety he just does alpha blades over and over
Vi or Blitz or Jinx have sick combos always
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>nobody wants to duo queue with a brazilippina ahri main
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>Moloch VI
Doppelter Einsatz betta
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It's over
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Where's that retard who said Jinx gets jumped on and loses instantly
Just cancel your gun into rocketjump and shoot another midair rocket and it straight up rapes any jumpers
What a fucking idiot
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>>539641853
jinx is ridiculous but in fighting games, the "i've played for 1 minute and this is my permanent opinion" never changes for a lot of people
it's why you see people calling ahri (only charater with an airdash in a tag fighter) bad and why you see people calling darius (mid dispenser with no plus frames, apprehend gives you TWO separate chances to parry it in case you were asleep for the first one, basically no mix, nothing going for him but damage) a problem
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>>539641967
>mid dispenser
https://litter.catbox.moe/lg3vr67beqffcc1j.mp4
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>>539642030
i gotta downplay darius at every opportunity. the agenda must be maintained
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>>539639651
I do like how everyone plays Blitz because he is the only character with any actual sauce to him
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>>539642425
that's not how you spell ekko
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>>539642425
Check some high level jinx that character is ridiculously saucy if you're good
Even Sajams is pretty cool you can actually just jump around everywhere hit confirm off of stray rockets and do shit like spike the monkey into their domes
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What's the purpose of the combo enders that kind of end in a cutscene?
Like if i end a combo with ekko with a charged heavy, the camera zooms in and does a whole cinematic thing
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>>539642787
its a limit break u get stupid meter off of them
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>>539642787
There's some combo rule that's like, "if you use the same special move twice in one combo, it forcibly ends the combo but you get a huge chunk of meter for both of your champs." I think there's a few different things that can trigger it, and also sometimes you can use the same move multiple times and not trigger it? IDK this game's combo formulas are way complicated to me.
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>>539642906
>>539642841
neat, thanks
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>>539642906
it's wall bounce, ground bounce and tumble
if you do two of any in a combo they break free but you gain super meter and break meter
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playing blitz is fun, I like him and played him in league. I'm just imagining how fun would this game be to me if I gave a fuck about anyone else in the roster and played a full duo of characters I like
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kinda wanna main two easy characters and play double down bros
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>>539644195
That kind of is the nice thing about team games, though. Every new character is a potential teammate for your favorite.
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I feel retarded playing 2x and watching everyone else play double down and shit out damage.
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>>539645072
double down is unbelievably better anon
unless you use ekko, in that case time to get good. but even with him there's probably some double special combo you can use
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>>539645072
Double Down is the fuse that at first glance seems like "the retard fuse for people who don't wanna bother learning mix," but really it just lets you actually spend all the meter you end up gaining. A lot of the time when I fight people that use other fuses, if I beat them they end the round with 2 or 3 bars on each champ.
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>>539644148
There's an added complication that your other character has their limit counted separately so you can do three in a combo if you tag. It's an overcomplicated mess in my opinion made to solve a problem that it no longer even answers after they retooled it, a really good microcosm of this game's development.
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yasuo is absolutely fucking mickey
even when dead, his super assist is the strongest in the game lol
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>>539646153
That shit is truly ridiculous. As if everything else about him wasn't already totally fucked. Who cares about the slow startup when it pops and instantly covers the whole screen and the damage is that high?
Honestly, I'm not sure I like the super assist mechanic. I love the game, but I'm not sure about that part, and about Fury.
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Jinx is Sexo
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>>539646241
the other super assists are nowhere as broken as yasuo's, the best one I can think of is maybe darius', which if connects is like 40% health
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>>539646712
They're all pretty good desu. Jinx's gives insane screen control, but I never see her use it for some reason.
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>doing regular combos is not enough
>there's even limit break combos that give you meter
stop stop STOP STOP TOO MANY MECHANICS AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>539647902
It's just an option. You don't have to do it.
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>game completely crashes mid-match
>shuts down my browser too
have they mentioned anything about the instability of the game? i've heard of this happening with other people but I dunno what's causing it. memory leak?
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>>539650960
>have they mentioned anything about the instability of the game?
no, and there are no forums to talk about it so you're gonna have to tweet using the hashtag and hope to god anyone notices
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>>539647064
probably because jinx never has meter for some reason
possibly that one other super she spams all the time mayhaps
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>>539651407
>>539650960
you can submit support tickets
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Wtf, you need to be using double down to be able to tag during a super? I thought it just let's you DHC. It's the best fuse isn't it?
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>>539652825
For now it 100% is
Meter gain seems kinda inflated and you just need to find which of your champs supers combo into each other well
2x assist or freestyle could be good later on once people discover cheap shit with them and extra mixup becomes more valuable than extra damage
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bros i cant win with juggernaut and i just refuse to use tag/assist shit. its over for me.
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>>539655108
Darius is the designated Juggernaut picker. You need to pick up the axe.
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>>539655209
yeah but i don't really get what the fuck to do against jinx/yasuo teams and shit without an assist myself, or how to approach.
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yeaaaaaaah they need to tune the rank for the official launch
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>>539655108
juggernaut is the robber fuse
if you dont know a fury tod dont bother you wont win
if you do know it you can just swing out of games by the sheer power of tilting the fuck out of other guy
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>>539655959
How is this possible, is this just because of player numbers or is 95% of the playerbase actually dogshit?
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>>539612227
Irelia isn't a coombait tho
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>>539642030
Noooo I missed, what was ittt?
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>>539656503
Player numbers, I think
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>>539629828
nice opinion you formed without playing
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>>539658110
Northernlion save us..
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>>539635428
Never complain about the lack of low budget games again
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Ngl, despite the lack of any mix and assists to cover my bullshit, dealing a billion damage with Juggernaut Darius while using short combos is very, very fun
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britGAWDS
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>>539659245
losing to jinx/vi would send me over the edge
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>>539659989
big body bros.......
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>>539659989
Nice choice of colours for the bars
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>>539632962
Thanks anon. I'll try to grind it some more time but if i can't then i'll just do the skip. Sadly having the enemy leave the corner at the end of that combo feels kinda bad.
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>>539659989
Ahri, really? I barely see her being used, huh.
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>>539656378
What's even the difference between juggernaut and side-kick? On the wiki they look identical.
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>>539663535
sidekick cant tag but they can still use normal assists and they get the charged delayed assist from the alpha which is sick btw, but 100% not worth.

Juggernaut just gets even more free damage and hp so it’s all-in into oneshotting people which is what you need when you’re losing out on game mechanics like that. Still not worth, but explosive enough to catch people out
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break meter needs to refill 3x as fast if it's gonna be 25 sec combos from every light button that lands
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>>539664098
limit breaks my bro
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>>539663869
>Juggernaut just gets even more free damage and hp
According to the wiki both get 20% more HP or am i missing on something else?
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Juggernaut bros: How much fury does it cost to use pushblock? There's no CD for it, right?
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>>539664191
more HP and guts below 30% or whatever
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>>539664191
I heard juggers get 30% but idk where i heard that
Jugg defo does more dmg than sidekick there’s no comparison
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>>539645072
they're both strong
i play 2x assist when playing with an ekko
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>>539664207
I thought you cannot use pushblock with jugg.
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>>539645072
Most of the real tods aren't using it but it doesn't matter when you can easily get to 80% off any touch with an ez mode lmao2supers combo
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where does it say how much exp i have i cant be bothered to grind to level 3 to play ranked
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>dyrus isn't playing darius in 2xko
wow.....
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>>539665101
it doesn't take much
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Why are there no edgeGOD villain characters in the rosteR?
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>>539666408
takes an eternity i played for like 2 hours and still didnt get to level 3
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>>539664191
Same HP gain, but jugg gets extra tanky when low health (it actually helps a lot). Damage is exact the same at base, but having fury every round means you have lots of opportunities to explode the other player when he's not expecting it.

>>539664756
You can and it does use fury, however...

>>539664207
I never noticed how much fury it costs, my bad.
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when i look at this art i only see norafawn's face
it's obvious the artist traced her likeness
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>>539667047
Viego or Kayn, the latters gimmick is hard to translate into a fighting game though
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>>539662286
The top 50 players all use Ahri is what this chart is saying.
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>Don't really like labbing
>Execution isn't bad but it takes me a long time to ingrain long combos in my head even if they're easy
I'm beginning to think this game wasn't made for me...
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>>539671916
I realized that when the game demands I twist my hand in the most unnatural position possible to hit certain button combinations. Game was not made for people who don't use all of their digits.
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>>539672245
I'm blessed I have a leverless because I lost motion in my wrists long ago from a car accident but I can still play with this thing.
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>>539668663
who
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I play yasuo but it makes me feel dirty and I'm considering swapping to braum
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>>539667047
Darius, duh. They are also supposedly adding Zed, who is a bargain-bin Shredder so the very definition of an edgelord villain.
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is throw tech incredibly stingy for anyone else? i'm spamming throw on wakeup and it just doesn't come out and i get thrown constantly
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>>539675234
You can't tech throws while rolling
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>>539675234
Remember that roll is throw-vulnerable, so if you are holding either direction, including downback, you get thrown without ability to tech.
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>>539675365
>>539675429
oh word. that makes sense
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>>539675429
So i just pick up the dude from the ground while he's rolling? That's kinda weird.
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>>539676349
WHILE rolling, if he flashes white after he finishes rolling you took too long and will whiff and get punished
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>>539676349
the trick is to mash the dash macro while not inputting any movement buttons, if you do that it automatically follows the opponents tech roll
react to the fact that they're rolling and throw them, grats on free wins until challenger
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>>539677030
Nice knowledge anon. Guess i'll have to bind the dash macro somewhere.
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when can we expect the next balance patch? I need yasuofags to ropemaxx
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>>539677706
Considering that the devs are retarded FGC veterans, 6 months at the very least.
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Yas is cool but...
He has the longest timewasting combos...
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>>539674563
>Darius
That's just a white nigga with an axe
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>>539678316
Okay? Have you seen what school shooters look like? I rest my case.
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The mythical casual experience video is out
https://youtu.be/X5zcrBgn9_E?si=bOxSHjjUAhiZRdm7
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if we don't get 6+ new characters a year i will kill myself
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If we don't get Riven as the 11th/12th character within 2 months of release I will kill the Cannon brothers in Minecraft.
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>>539679223
Can't be arsed. Does he enjoy it or not?
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>>539681085
11 is zed
Also too many ad champs we need some ap
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>>539681229
>Also too many ad champs
Don't care, the fact that this shit doesn't have the original league fighting game character is a fucking disgrace.
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>>539682047
>boomers thinking they have rights
were you this mad when they didnt put annie or master yi into arcane too
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>>539659245
I can't find the VOD online, anyone got a link?
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>>539682474
How come NA doesn't play Ahri?
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>>539682180
No, because that show was about Piltover and Zaun. I think omitting Blitzcrank and Mundo were the big omission issues, but I blame the horrendous second season about both of those, especially Blitzcrank since they fucked over Viktor. It's blindingly obvious that if you make a fighting game out of a property, you should include the very popular character that was heavily inspired by fighting games. It's like making a League FPS but not including the twin pistol nigger or the faggot cowboy.
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>>539681229
that's cause ad champs are fighters nig (except adcs)
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>>539682707
There's a cowboy?
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>>539682707
>I think omitting Blitzcrank and Mundo were the big omission issues, but I blame the horrendous second season about both of those, especially Blitzcrank since they fucked over Viktor.
Isn't Blitz literally just a random fucking robot in the grand scheme of things while Mundo is a loser shut in
I get that they're from that region but they were never relevant to the Piltover vs Zaun storyline
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https://x.com/i/status/1968769009861394790
How the fuck is tech like this OK?
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>>539678846
I want real edgeniggas not white bread
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>>539682991
Blitzcrank was built by Viktor, making it a bit of a problem when the show decided to completely abandon his whole robot persona and make him a faggy mage, and then kill him off. Sure, I agree that he isn't very relevant, but I imagine if season 2 had kept up the level of quality of season 2 he could have been a minor character, showcasing both how Viktor is becoming very adept at creating hextexh machinery and emphasize his disconnection from humanity.
As for Mundo, I imagine he got omitted because he was too comical and they didn't want to do the Heimerdinger treatment on him where they take a comical character and make him very serious, which was probably the right call. Still, I think giving him a cameo or a small appearance would have been nice fanservice, but of course that's the least of the show's issues.
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>>539683131
Blitz has a steam mechanic?
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>>539683131
>secret technique unlocks blitz' greenhand
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>>539683619
>make him a faggy mage
Hextech was always magic + technology though
Blitz could be a s3 character if jayce and viktor come back from their arcane adventures
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I didn't want to believe it, but I don't think I can deny it any longer. The anons on here saying the game is only fun in the lmh>launcher>lmh>s1s2 phase of the game is right.
Day 1 of ranked and people are already doing 80% combos consistently. Where do we go from here?
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>>539686773
I thought it was only me. Was having casual fun 2 days ago but tried ranked yesterday and everyone was doing tournament stuff.
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>>539686773
There's a reason these people are showing up in your lobby, just gotta figure out their approach and as soon as you do they tend to fall apart. Push block and parries are really, really good and you'll have fun again, at least that's my experience so far.
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they need to demarvelify the combos and execute marlinpie on stream to make an example
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Learning Vi but really don't want to play with 2 characters... Should i just do sidekick or juggernaut and with whom?
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>>539688290
Sidekick Vi with Jinx assist
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>>539688290
Juggernaut is easier if you're starting to learn since you get fury every round
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i'm starting to suspect this is kusoge
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>>539689049
I suspected that as soon as I heard 'tag fighter' and the evidence just kept piling up from there.
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>>539689049
no shit Sherlock
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>>539687714
what is "tournament stuff" lol
>>539686773
combos are the easy part of fighting games, the hard part is utilizing all the system mechanics to win neutral/take your turn on defense/open your opponent up on offense
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you think i can get some cosplayer pusi if i get skilled at tuco? Bitches love lol
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>>539690589
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im hard stuck diamond 2, its over
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>>539690589
nice
my country is completely alien to fighting games but everyone is obsessed with lol
this could be my ticket to losing my v card after 32 years, unironically
time to switch to yasuo
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gotta say as a spectator the way it just quickly swaps to round 2 in a match really just makes rounds bleed into each other in a bad way
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>>539691461
nevermind my old ragequit technique works in 2xko also, i can cancel matches without suffering any ragequit or rating penalty, challenger here i come!
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>>539691736
>>539691216
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>>539691904
Lobbies get smaller as you climb so people can just block you
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>>539691870
There should be a five minute delay between rounds so I can jerk off and for spectators to finish drooling on themselves
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>>539692290
This one is my favorite as well, pink is good too. Green would be nice if she was blonde.
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>>539692290
I like that one specific green one because I fucking love pantyhose
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So which characters pair well with Jinx when it comes to her keepout more
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>>539694040
Braum
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Jesus fuck hitbox privilege is so fucking real here, How do you attack Darius or Yasuo when everything then press will take precedence over your buttons
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>>539694625
Hit buttons earlier. You're dashing too close and pressing far too late.
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>>539694724
Nigger we literally have a hitbox viewer in game we know some characters like Jinx spends 2 extra frames to put out hitboxes half the size of Yasuo and even big bodies like Blitz has shittier options than either those
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>>539694040
Definitely Braum. I'd run him as a Jinx main but I just can't comprehend his playstle
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>>539694972
Anon Yasuo 5M has a bigger hitbox than Vi's 5H and Illaoi legit covers the screen better than the dedicated "zoner".
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>>539695845
>try to set up Jinx's traps after hard KD
>get obliterated fullscreen by Illaoi/Yasuo
I don't know how Jinx is simultaneously the first fun example of her archetype i've played while also feeling like the worst in a game where 80% of the matches are against Yasuo/Illaoi
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>>539696154
>>539695845
>>539695362
>>539694972
*lands the hypothetical super on these anons*
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>>539694625
because you're thinking about this like a grounded fighting game, when it's a tag fighter
play around your assists
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Illaoi's 5M has a better anti air hitbox than most 2H's
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i hate no motion inputs more than i thought.
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>>539696231
>get shoved in the corner, hard KD
>Illaoi uses her S2 super set-up
what do you even do. if you block you get grabbed into full combo. if you jump you get sniped by the tentacles. if you roll you run the risk of being chased down by illaoi and grabbed into full combo.
is the solution really 'don't be there'?
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>>539696670
Maybe you should've not let it happen
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>>539696670
forward tech is goated
people suck at punishing tech rolls
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>>539696417
MOOOSH
EMOOOSH
MOOOSH
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>>539696265
That's the whole issue though, Yasuo legit doesn't need an assist to cover his ass because he can stance cancel to be safe and his hitboxes are already massive
To be fair Jinx is severely undertuned apart from her laser, there's no way she won't get over buffed while they tweak the super down
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>>539696770
bro last night i fought three illaois who just skrrrt'd after me and grabbed after every forward roll, even after i tried to mix up my reaction
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>>539696895
>To be fair Jinx is severely undertuned apart from her laser, there's no way she won't get over buffed while they tweak the super down
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Woah...you're telling me this game has bad balance?
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>>539696895
I think Jinx is perfectly fine. She's very good, even. The issue is the top three are just significantly better than she is at the moment and probably need to be tuned down
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>>539696670
Yes
Its a tag game
If you're blocking you already lost
If you have no choice but to block you already lost
its a skill issue hit them first next time.
>>539696895
>jinx is bad
YOU
SUCK
shes literally running every single tournament right now get good or at least watch the last set and steal the tech
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>>539697371
>>jinx is bad
>YOU
>SUCK
>shes literally running every single tournament right now get good or at least watch the last set and steal the tech
She's literally the least represented character after Braum
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>>539697502
>She's literally the least represented character after Braum
Why do you lie when people can easily prove you wrong...
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>>539697669
I think he meant in tournament play
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Vi colour jinx but no jinx colour vi?
What
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>>539697669
Tournaments nigger you were literally the one to bring it up
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>>539638068
just another way this game is barebones
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>leffen acknowledging the memory leak
come on riot.....fix it
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>>539698518
>you were literally the one to bring it up
WHO
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>>539697056
thanks, clayton
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>>539697985
wait, is jinx really that lewd?
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>>539697819
>>539698518
you guys arent even in the thread
>>539682474
like 20 posts up here too shes more represented than ahri, braum, vi and blitz but sure she's LOW TIER because I CANT WINNN
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>>539698964
i just said 'i think he's talking about tournaments' dude i didn't say i agreed with him or with any perceived notion of jinx being low tier. i think she's easily top 5
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top 5 in a game with less than 10 characters, very substantial
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>>539699193
MB bro meant to reply to this guy sorry ill fix that
>>539697502
YOU SUCK COCK PUSSY GET GOOD
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>>53969932
yeah actually
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>>539699326
shes more represented than darius too in that tourney he just forgot to write that
top 4 at worst, and its very possible further optimizations push her more
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>>539682474
what country is that last guy from i dont know that one
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>>539699326
>original post: "less represented than Braum"
>post now: "ok shes more represented than Braum but top 5 is still bad"
GOAL POSTS status: : : : MOVED
another successful 4chan argument from anonymous
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>>539698964
>2 Jinx players
>Ignoring how that's extremely minor to the 4 Ekko's and 3 Ahri's
>Also 2 Yasuo and 2 Vi's
???
Do you know math
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>>539699925
>original post: "less represented than Braum"
Oh look, it's an unironic p*ojeet
Can't even read a basic sentence, huh
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>>539699954
anon..
this is embarrassing
heres a hint there's two top 8s in that post not just 1...
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>>539700121
She also has 2 showings on the other one and not even any finalists, what the fuck are you on about
Are you a legit indian shitposting without even having launched the game or something
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how do you play duos?
is it not available for all modes?
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jinx is underpowered its just that the power of my love for her pushes me to win tournaments and inspire others to play her at high rates
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>>539700114
>okay theres MAY be less blitzcranks and less ahris and less dariuses and less vis
>but braum is ALSO still worse!!
congrats bro you won
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Math is hard
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>>539698801
Yeah she shows sideboobs and tummy and everything
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How do people get their ego so bruised they have to pretend their character is low tier?
Must have demoted some crazy ranks
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>>539635428
>goon brained weeb shitter sees character design for the first time
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every other match, i'm thinking
>holy fuck, that was cheap/disgusting/stupid
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>>539700283
>how do you play duos
You need to have a friend to play with first
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>>539701646
Adachi was doing that same shit in bbtag 8 years ago
Real brothers know
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>>539701768
>bbtag
Yeah good idea let's emulate that shit game.
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>>539702210
its better here though
Adachi didnt even have to spend meter to do it his Jinx super was just a normal special
Man I miss bbtag so much
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There's no reason to play Double down with jinx/ekko you basically never get a proper knockdown. I don't know what I'm supposed to do man.
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>>539702278
it was fun having the characters to play around with, but the game was so fucking trash
>pushblock same input as dp
>'baiting' bursts with assist calls
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>>539702997
>it was fun having the characters to play around with, but the game was so fucking trash
You just described every tag fighter.
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>>539702997
Well without pushblock being the same as dp input there would've been literally no downside to just mashing it every time you got tapped until you ran out of meter
It actually was the balancing factor to it there would've been no way to bait it if it were by its lonesome

Bursts were hot ass in that game yeah
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Pros vs Devs is live !!! Woooooooo we love Chipotle
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>>539703350
Wow the dorito pope images aren't as bad nowadays huh
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>>539702542
Maybe try drifting to the left at the end, I see that same super conversion at the end work in a lot jinx combos so not sure why yours is bricked
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>>539701646
Double down is too good.
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shes so fucking hot
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>>539704074
Hey that's the color I use too
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>>539704074
if you're into girls with bpd + anorexia + drug addiction
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>>539701646
What you do against this? Just take the L?
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>>539704297
yes
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>>539704456
Have you ever played a fighting game anon, blocking a left right mix isn't such an alien concept
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>>539701646
Welcome to the world of kusoges I hope you enjoy the experience
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>>539704570
he's probably a striver
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>>539704158
the white top is seriously slutty
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>>539704074
I was dumping some stuff at a scrap yard a few days ago and there was a crackhead chick asking for some change. Jinx just looks like that.
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>>539698964
my wife is actually STRONG
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>>539704672
Strive is chock full of left rights
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who is the ryu equivalent and the cammy equivalent
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>>539701646
why did i get the pink Jinx skin. the yellow one is genuinely better
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>>539705798
lee sin and katarina
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>>539705218
strivers can't block them though
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>>539704456
this isn't me being a dick but the training mode actually has a module about blocking mix-up attempts.
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no akali no play
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>>539705798
>ryu equivalent
Vi is the resident gorilla character but she doesn't have a fireball. She kinda plays like Luke desu
>cammy
Ekko? I'm really reaching now but can't go far with only 9 characters
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>>539705798
jinx has cammys old haircut
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is there normal matchmaking yet?
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when is 1v1 mode (juggernaut only queue)? after that how long until they rebalance the game for 1v1 after seeing it's the most played mode?
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>>539706995
Letting people play gamemodes that they actually want is not the Riot way.
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>>539706995
i approve of jugger segregation
too many fucking frauds in diamond stinking up the place
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>>539706995
They don't even let people play URF as a regular mode since it shows how GARBAGE normal game is. I doubt they gonna give any freedom.
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>try to get casual fighting game friends into the beta
>none of them stick to it
what is it about this genre that puts off so many people. Is it the homework? I like learning so that's a plus for me.

It's like they know the basics of fighting games but they don't understand the nuance or try to look for it so the experience never gets better for them.
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>>539706901
She has a divekick as well.
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>>539707429
>sent codes to a bunch of friends
>no one wants to play it after a day or two
>most fun i've had in a fightan in a while
i'm not even a huge tag enthusiast. kinda sucks
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>>539707429
This is like the most off-putting gameplay possible for new players. Try something like Rising instead, far more beginner-friendly, and it's also free.
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>>539707429
smash bros already exists so theres no traditional fighting game that will ever capture a casual audience again
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>>539707429
It's the homework. Just now i realize how much people hate reading. I don't enjoy it but holy fuck anything more than a line of text would put off like 90% of the people you know.
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>>539707661
Seconding this. I think Rising is a lot easier of a sell. Tag fighters turn off a lot of people
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>>539707661
This shit has no motion controls and almost assisted combos. You can't go more friendly than this. Next step is stripping the tag system.
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>>539707661
>>539707885
The game that got me into fighting games was bbtag though
I tried gbf and it was a snoozer sorry
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>>539707429
dix is bringing new people just fine
this game just sucks for beginners even though it was made for them lol
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>>539707661
>>539707885
I was talking about fighting games in general, I play GBVS with a friend constantly and even though he keeps playing regularly he won't improve because he is not curious enough to learn the game. He stays at a basic level of understanding that caps his ceiling so he can't really appreciate the fun in intermediate level play which is where I think most people really start to love fighting games.
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>>539707661
And its also dead, crazy how the awful 2xko can pulls numbers granblue could only fantasize of.
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I legit dont know how people play gb and have fun
That game is so stubby and flaccid and sticky feeling
Its like both characters are underwater and trying to kill each other with pool noodles it feels so ugly
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>>539707885
It's not just the tag fighter aspect, something like pre-kusoge patch DBFZ would have also been pretty approachable for beginners.
>>539707980
Motions and combos aren't the issue. The game is way too fast for a player new to fighters. They will have no clue what's going on, get hit, lose 70% of their life and then get mixed in a way where they don't even know what's happening. You need something with a slow pace and low power level where a beginner can actually comprehend what's happening and not instantly die when defending. People don't like to lose, and they especially don't like to lose when they don't understand why they are losing. Of course, not having combos that last over 10 seconds on average is a bonus, because as a beginner you will be on the receiving end of most combos, long combos mean you aren't actually playing for a huge chunk of your playtime, which is obviously unfun.
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>>539708546
Some people like neutral and footsies existing.
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>>539708735
I just remember vividly the giant nigga with the giga scythe
He doesnt have a single move where he actually swings the full length of the thing hes always holding it like the most shitty dagger of all time and trying to stab people with it like what the fuck how is that fun
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>>539707429
Most people don't like homework and a lot of fighting games not only ask you to start memorizing a bunch of stuff right away but to memorize stuff other players can do to you so you don't constantly feel like you're being robbed. I think fighting games, especially tag fighters, also have lots of situations that don't feel very interactive or at all intuitive to a new player and even when you do your homework in a fighting game to make it interactive the answers are usually pretty cut and dry rather than something like an FPS where a player can just completely flip an awful situation on it's head unexpectedly.
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>>539708885
So you pick the slowest and stubbiest motherfucker as an example
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>>539708735
>neutral
ARVESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>539708559
>DBFZ would have also been pretty approachable for beginners.
>entire paragraph on shit dbfz was guilty of from the beginning
Jmcrofts was right
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>>539709393
if I pick the giant fucking giga nigga with a giant fucking giga scythe
I want to be swinging the giant scythe yes and not playing castrated man who got half his scythe cut off by his ex or whatever
Like why is gordeau the most gay fag of all time somehow 10x cooler than the giga nigga just because he actually swings his weapon like a real person
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Man, Blitzcrank kinda sucks on point. He can't really convert anything with Illaoi's assist.
What's the general gameplan with him? Focus on pullong people and doing a hit/grab mixup?
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>>539709628
Pick a faster characer and the game intantly becomes more fun
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>>539706176
Can you
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>>539709987
>shit fighter clone
>>>>fast
yeah no
the only time I ever have fun in shit fighterlikes is when I can pick some obnoxious motherfucker with god buttons
That bitch has a giant sword but normals smaller than her arm and all she gets out of it is being about as fast as blitzcrank
I remember her jump move where she jumps and spins in a circle and just being in awe of how the hitbox was somehow smaller than her sword is long

That game is actually just castration simulator
You pick what would be a really cool character in any other game and watch as they're chopped up and mutilated on the pillar of muh neutral
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>>539709987
The backdashes in that game couldn't be more unsatisfying if they tried
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY AREN'T MY HITBOXES FULLSCREEN
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>>539710618
>fighterlikes
nigga what
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>>539711658
If you're gonna make a game featuring characters with weapons longer than they are tall and then make all their normals half the length of their fucking arms then yeah we have a problem
It's like they teased me with the possibility of a fun game and then broke it in half over my knee like each of the character's weapons
>>539711752
As in like shit fighter
its not that complicated buddy
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>>539711752
He's creating a funny and clever insult for SF by replacing Street with shit.
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>>539711909
>As in like shit fighter
Normal people just say they took a big shit, no need to reinvent the wheel.
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>>539711658
Mine do
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alright yasuo is pretty much the objectively best char in the game, right?
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>>539712870
Ekko
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>>539712870
Ekko has everything he does + the best projectile in the game so
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Wake me up when they add a proper hype character like HIM
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>>539712870
I think it's a toss-up between Yasuo and Ekko, desu.
Personally I think pic related is where characters currently stand but I'm just at an intermediate level and basing it primarily off of tournament shit
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>>539713468
theyll add his function
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super jumping jinx is cute
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>>539713707
I'd bump Ahri up purely because she has way more potential with her movement than she gets credit for. Usually the easier to use characters are dominant early on but I expect her to rise a lot.
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>>539714440
Nova isn't a function, he's all the deeds he has committed
They need a character that can earn his hype
It's weird how a bunch of MvC autists couldn't bother adding some cool lines when you can probably quote every character in 3, apart from Jinx with her cute laugh and Illaoi with her random ass garbled lines, I can't really think of anything
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>>539713707

S: Yasuo, Ekko, Jinx
A: Vi, Illaoi, Darius, Blitz, Ahri
B: Raum
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>>539715105
Yeah, I agree. I personally think Ahri's very good, but I haven't seen enough of her at high level to push her up yet. She just feels more difficult to play
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This game could be pretty cool if they fucking figured out how to handle combos well and improved forward and backwards dashing a bit to not be as gay
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Man, Jinx by herself can't zone for shit but just doing windwall into tornado as Yasuo lets her set anything and everything and also chip the fuck out of you fullscreen
This might be her real zoning team
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>>539715581
movement is ass you retard you get clipped by anything into TOD
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>>539715823
Anon did you not read the post
The movement and combos were the main complaint points
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>Literally 0 characters with a DP
>In a 2D fighter
RITO FIX THIS NOW WHAT THE FUCK
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>>539704297
skellies are hot tbdesu famalama
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>>539716031
Darius, though it's unusable vs. 99% of the pressure in the game.
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i got placed in iron lmfao
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>>539716031
Yasuo doesn't have an anti air that's big af?
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>>539716205
It's not a fucking DP it's a single hit armor move
Neither is Vi's a DP, it's a circle hitbox with no rising movement
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Is this game dead yet
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>>539716327
>3x dix's viewers on twitch
not gonna be for quite some time i fear :)
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Why is it so hard to get a dash out after Jinx's zap to combo off of it, man
Am I doing something wrong or can you just not buffer dashes
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>>539716031
you can wakeup with an invincible move on every champ
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>>539716741
The zap lasts like 30 minutes and even after it ends you sloooowly flop to the ground, what?
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>>539716851
Yeah but I fuck up getting the dash to come out and most of the time you get the zap at loong distances
I'm a noob be gentle
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>>539716841
what
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>>539716841
Nigger do you think DPs only exist for wakeups
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>>539716741
So it's not just me, huh? I dunno wtf is happening but I'll zap someone and my dash input just won't come out
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>>539715884
you're right my bad.
I've been reading too many shill posts.
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>>539716431
i dont think this game will really be competition to dix
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>>539717181
yeah, they're totally different genres. just saying, there is interest in the game.
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>>539716031
maybe they dont want to add a good invul anti air into a game with one button baby inputs.
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>>539713707
>Jinx worse than Vi
Yea you don't play sorry. Jinx is top 3. Super into tag is a get-in-free card.
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>>539717550
This but the reverse, Vi's OTG abilities are pure bullshit and can hold the ground way better than the zoner
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>>539716979
hold attack
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Surely I'm not the only one thinking Braum/Jinx/Ekko stun projectiles last too fucking long? It's like you're both at each end of the screen, someone randomly throws a Timewinder/Zap/Winter's Bite and the guy has enough time to run up and do whatever combo he wants
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>>539717824
Jinx and Braum I get because theirs are more limited, why the fuck does the stupid pixie rushdown monke get that though
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i still cant wrap my head around the controls
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I feel like all the characters in this game are beyond bullshit and cheap. Except for Ahri and Braum which feel undertuned.

Also what do you do vs Darius's grab followups? Just guess?
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>>539717824
>Braum
Trades it for other potentially strong options
>Jinx
Has the weakest and most limited solo confirms in the game without it and still not above average with it
>Ekko
I dunno lol
You forgot Blitz hook having that effect on his steam install too
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>>539718195
>Also what do you do vs Darius's grab followups? Just guess?
Yes
You're supposed to limit his options so he doesn't do the initial grab or parry the said grab on reaction but it's a tag game so any bullshit can happen
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Is there ever a reason to not go into the enhanced versions of assists over regulars?
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How the FUCK do you control this game on a stick? Grow a third hand?
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>>539718938
these new babb input fighters are obviously not made for stick.
they have so many shortcuts for specials and weird bloated mechanics that they need 8 buttons minimum which just feels terrible on it.
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2XKO's biggest tragedy will be that they have something great below all the garbage they put on top of it, you could make one of the best FGs of all time but you won't because that would need you to go against what the retarded umvc3 fan devs want
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>>539718938
wtf are you on about retard
I'm playing a 6 button stick.
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>start learning jinx
>get a storm of one and doners
wow why are people so bitchmade
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ahri is made for footsie enjoyers who else do we want to footsie to? I don't know much about this franchise.
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>>539719145
This but character neutrally
Why the fuck are people one and done-ing or RQing in a fucking closed beta where nothing will even carry over
t. Dari + Blitzfag
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>>539716741
the buffer for most things in this game outside of moves that cancel into one another is pretty tight
Just wait a touch before hitting the dash and it will work but you do need to feel it out sorta
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what characters have good anti airs?
just had a yasuo jump through darius air grab and Im about to lose it.
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>>539719976
Use your fucking 2H anon not the slow as shit hard read anti airs
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>>539708559
DBFZ was also a clusterfuck, it just allowed retards to mash whatever the fuck with the skip neutral button.
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>>539719976
Blitz, Vi assist are the two best ones probably
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>>539720020
his 2h felt rather slow too.
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>>539719103
How the fuck do you do it
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Why does the combo counter turn grey sometimes
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>>539720150
L , M, H
S1 , S2 , T

throw, supers, burst, parry can all be used with button combinations.
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>>539720294
The button combinations are the problem, you need some dextrous fingers to play this shit.
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>>539720495
On stick? no
on pad? my condolences.
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>Can't go two matches without seeing a Yasuo in a 9 character roster
>Can't go two matches without seeing a Yasuo in a 120 character roster
I HATE THIS NIGGA AAAAAAAAA
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>>539720553
On stick
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when do we get ranked?
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>>539720793
Never bro it's cancelled
It's already in you inbred retard
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I want to do a combo where I swap out of jinx and still pupeeter her to cast her zap while playing vi but im so retarded wtf my fingers dont work
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the lack of horny posting in this thread makes me want to go back to tekg or even sfg
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>>539720731
It's not an issue.
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>>539721367
>Y+Z
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>>539721441
fastest way to show you is on mvc2 brother.
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>>539721367
YZ is depraved
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HOLY SHIT EKKO IS SO FUCKING BROKEN HE CAN CONVERT OFF ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING AND HAS SO MUCH MOVEMENT

Why are the top tier characters always the ones I don't want to play?
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>>539720294
dash macro will probably be mandatory.
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>>539721652
mandatory for what
you just double tap
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>>539721557
That wasn't the point newfag
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>>539721724
It automatically follows rolls without you seeing them so you can throw them
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>>539721628
why would you want to play a top tier, that's disgusting
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>>539721795
I wont be playing this dog shit long enough to care about something like that
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>>539720191
it means the combo dropped, but the enemy chose not to tech
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>>539721724
double tap is way way slower than a macro.
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>>539721795
damn its the same OS cotw has. kinda gay.
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>>539722265
what is the minimum frame requirement for a dash
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>>539721795
you mean on wakeup? does it require a precise timing (you end up dashing the opposite way) or does it always work?
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why do you still have to spend tokens on shit you unlock with your mastery?
i know the answer is because this is a free to play game but fuck you regardless gay nigga
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>>539722912
Just because you won 653 games of Ahri doesn't mean you deserve to be above Champion Mastery 7!!!!!!!
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What a great great exhibition
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Cannons, Unconkable, Clockwork, Combofiend, ApologyMan, Yohosie, NerdJosh, gcyoshi, UpToSnuff, MarlinPie, Funtaxx...

The Devs
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>>539703350
>>539724224
where was this streamed?
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round start do nothing until random stray hit double super coinflip oki kill point character

AHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAH SO FUN HAHAHA SO FUCKING INTERESTING HAHAHAHAHA
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>>539724563
Which character?
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>>539724884
darius into blitz, wakeup spd.
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>>539721086
I'm waiting for swimsuit ahri to come out before I get the webm of ahris animation she does when she stands up from crouch
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>>539724947
I hate darius so much
I'd hate blitz too but I play him so hes fine hehe

but in general yeah so fun to guess for game... I genuinely dont understand this mentality of adding that shit in games
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>>539725210
would the game become the absolute sloppiest of slops if they made parry not cost any resource?
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>>539725210
I dont understand the purpose of jinx projetiles dealing 8% damage when 70% damage combos are effortless to get to.
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>>539725540
jinx projectiles allow you to enter combos or extend them
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>>539725621
>COMBOS
my exact fucking point
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>>539725682
I dont understand
you want them to be stronger? what are you trying to say
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Jinx, Yasuo, and Ekko make the game unfun.
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>>539725787
THE DESPARITY BETWEEN STRAY HIT STRENGTH VS COMBO STRENGTH

THERE IS ZERO FUCKING INCENTIVE TO PRIORITIZE OTHER WIN CONDITIONS
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>Yasuo hits absolutely anything
>80% combo
>Ekko hits absolutely anything
>80% combo
>Ahri hits anything
>You have to bet your life to see if S2 hits for a 50% combo

dang they did my girl dirty.
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>>539725920
so you WANT her zoning to be better and to zone rather than comboslop people, ok

will never happen because
1) zoners are generally hated in every single fighting game and riot is really sensitive about the poor casual players getting zoned. jinx is already the most hated character in the game followed or comparable to yasuo who just spams random shit and 80%s you
2) they want this game to be combo autism so if you hit a projectile with jinx you're supposed to super laser slop them and go into a super mega combo instead of just keep zoning
3) MvC autists as devs, I dont remember any zoning gameplay there because everyone else was even more busted, im thinking about vergil just spamming shit and completely destroying every projectile without even trying
oh MvC is a famous infinite ToD combo game btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5STPHDnJQ
this is the ideal gameplay the developers want to see
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>>539726317
>1) zoners are generally hated in every single fighting game and riot is really sensitive about the poor casual players getting zoned. jinx is already the most hated character in the game followed or comparable to yasuo who just spams random shit and 80%s you
Not in MvC
>2) they want this game to be combo autism so if you hit a projectile with jinx you're supposed to super laser slop them and go into a super mega combo instead of just keep zoning
MvC has solved this in 3
>3) MvC autists as devs, I dont remember any zoning gameplay there because everyone else was even more busted, im thinking about vergil just spamming shit and completely destroying every projectile without even trying
Nigger what
2 was entirely zoning dominated, zoners were also still extremely strong in UMvC3
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Yes listen to the turbo shitter who can't stop a jump and give jinx projectiles the ability to one shot the opponent if they get hit
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>>539726317
zoning is extremely strong in mvc2 and mvc3
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>>539725540
?
I dont get your point
>hit a projectile
>go in
>your projectile has now done 70%
>reset back to neutral
the end result is the same as if it were
>hit a projectile
>your projectile has now done 70%
>reset back to neutral
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>>539726718
Braum's command normals feel unitintuive
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>>539726718
I expected Blitz and Illaoi to be higher
>Braum
lol
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>>539726718
Ahri would be higher if she wasn't so fucking nerfed.
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>>539726814
YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING THE MOST BASIC OF CONCEPTS
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>>539726814
he wants to sit at fullscreen and constantly hit you with projectiles rather than combo'ing you and killing you that way (zoning)
right now jinx yeah has some zoning abilities but she mostly tries to get you with a projectile to go into a combo immediately after
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>>539726718
i know it's closed beta and all but holy fuck this game needs more characters bad
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>>539726818
If they move his 2H and maybe his L hitbox out a bit more he'd be fine
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>>539726892
>raging this hard because he got hit by a combo
lmao
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>>539726982
>i know it's closed beta
the game has been in development for almost 10 years.if anything the game should have half League's roster lol
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>>539727217
I M N O T R A G I N G I M M A K I N G I T E A S I E R F O R Y O U T O R E A D , P E R H A P S Y O U 'D P R E F E R C R A Y O N S N E X T.
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>>539726826
Illaoi could be the best character in the beta, but only meta slaves would give a fuck about such a fucking ugly visual design.
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>>539727372
I have no idea what the fuck they're doing. Unless they shadow drop 4 fucking characters when Teemo releases, I'm going to assume they've been mismanaged to fuck, either by themselves or Riot.

I really like the game, even in its unfinished state, but it's absurd that it's taken this long to NOT release anything more than we have
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>>539727508
somehow Riot devs not only managed to directly translate LoL's gameplay to a fighting game, but also the meta aspects of the characters too
>Illaoi is only picked by meta slaves
>Yasuo is an annoying piece of shit
kek incredible
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>>539727372
Also the characters really aren't deep/complex enough to warrant such a small roster over such a long time
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>>539727620
>Cute girls are not allowed to be higher that shit tier
Checks out.
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>>539727620
>quit League well over a decade ago
>no longer had to suffer Yasuo mid terrorizing the game and snowballing
>decide to try tuko
>he's in virtually every match if you play past 8pm PST any given day
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>>539727493
just use your burst lil bro
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>>539727785
>>539727770
by this logic Teemo will be bottom tier joke character but still cancer
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>jump away
>back dash
>walk back
>crouch block
doesnt matter lmao I'm hitting you with my normal LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
truly one of the games of all times.
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>>539726892
just killed a guy by casting jinx ult fullscreen in fury
skill issue zone harder shitter
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arcane really ruined piltover characters
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>>539727984
do you wake up every day and choose to be so ignorant?
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>>539727770
Jinx is busted as hell though. Beam super is diabolical. Expect her to go up as normgroids metachase Sonic's team
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>>539728125
Jinx is not cute, she is a crackhead, the only cute girl is Ahri and she is dogshit and her combos feel like they are being held together with paper mache, cum, and prayers.
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>>539727865
I used to play Teemo top a lot because I'd watch that one Teemo main streamer and wanted to be a shit-eating specialist like him. Rain something
I expect him to either be more annoying to chase than round start backstepping Yasuos and Ahris
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>>539727616
>either by themselves or Riot.
This game has been in development for so long while playing exactly like you'd expect from a team of kusoge enjoyers that I think Riot probably gave them way more freedom and leeway than they deserve.
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>>539728291
If they rebooted the game twice during development or are taking a deliberately long time to pump shit out, part of me wonders if they're just milking Riot for a paycheck or if it's their MvC brainrot steering the ship. If it's the former, fine, good, fuck Riot, but the resulting small-shit roster is doing little to maintain my interest
They need to guarantee like 4 characters coming out all at once within the next 2-3 months at this point.
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>>539728269
holy fuck, rainman, you must be an old fart like me. that's a fucking name I haven't heard in a while

I feel like they might do him as a setupper with his mushrooms, he's commonly played as a fast autoattacker but I remember the AP teemo menaces more, his mushrooms are really iconic
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>>539728125
>Jinx is busted as hell though. Beam super is diabolical.
She doesn't have anything impressive other than the super
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>>539728250
>Arcane Jinx is kinda hot
>2XKO Jinx looks like an actual twitching crackhead
i know that breath stinks
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>anti air is very specific
>can be blocked anyway lmao!
>faggot jumps at me at whatever angle they please
>hit me with any fucking button they please
>eat a massive combo

yeah this is a real fighting game bros I swear
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>>539728904
Im having a hard time dealing with jumpers too
for now I'm coping with throwing them out of air but it's not good
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>>539728936
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