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Kurimu!
>>539752294I love you Tails <3
hogs
'Sup bros. I'm new to these thread, but I'd thought I'd hop in and say Sonic is AWESOME! That's all, have a good day.
Eggman
Sonic: chilli dogsTails: MintsKnuckles: grapes Amy: strawberry shortcakeCream: Vanilla bean ice cream (cone)Shadow: coffeeRouge: pomegranateVector: Vanillas cookingCharmy: honeyEspio: rice ballsBig: anchovy pizzaSilver: corn dogsBlaze: hamburger Eggman: deviled eggsSome of these are completely made up by me but I think this is everyone's favorite foods.
>>539752436Cute boys!!!>>539752492You're so right broThanks for the positivity, this general needs it lately
>>539752294Gay nigger.
>>539752514Secret extra boss isn't the same as final boss. This also ignores like half of the 2000s games.
>>539752687You make the thread next time faggot
>>539752687Tails loves men (me)
>>539752294Mobian boys are for human men and mobian girls are for human women, simple.
Here I solved the timeline and the sonic of the past/other dimension. Blue is the main time line green is the classic/different dimension timeline. Put simply sonic of the past experiencing generations nent he could no longer become modern sonic and that caused a timeline split when 3 goes to mania instead of adventure making him from a different dimension instead of the past then mania goes to forces but going back to maina might mean another split in the timeline making one where he does go to forces and one where he doesn't, but that one where he doesn't probably doesn't matter and might not even exist.
me came on that pot
Will Sonic Team ever manage to reach their peak again, or will the Adventure games remain unsurpassed forever?
>>539752135He wanted Sonic to admit defeat.>then change his personalityHe wouldn't be Sonic at that point.Eggman lost because he gained those powers from the Master Emerald, fundamentally meaning they can be siphoned into the Control Emerald, Sonic had to use Eggman's own ego, engorged on the all-time high of unlimited power, against him to barely get that chance.You did not read the comic, therefor your arguments against the comic aren't worth the time of someone who has read the comic, you probably don't even know what the "Control Emerald" is without using the fandom wiki.
>>539752805Tails only loves me and it's because i bring him many girls to cuddle with.
>>539752529What about Sage? I think cookies would be a fun joke since she is an AI.
>>539753170Nope, he loves me too. It's okay though, it would be unfair if I kept him all for myself, he needs to have fun with the girls too.>seething Cuckdowkek
>>539752950That's not a timeline. THIS is a timeline.
>>539753301Alright i guess...
>>539753013I read the entire fleetway series and what Robotnik demostrated isn't even close to true omnipotence, if he was omnipotent, he would never lose, he would be able to see that Knuckles had a grey emerald and his powers could not be taken away in the first place
>>539753174I like that one. I was debating it because she was AI but Eggman would probably program a sense of taste for her. Sage gets cookies.Omega can have the blood of his enemies (or motor oil).
>>539752294Tails is shit.
>>539752529We know for a fact that Eggman loves fried chicken, so there's that>>539753174>cookies
Feminizing Tails
>>539753529Omnipotence is not Omniscience, they are two very different things.Omnipotent beings are all-powerful, omniscient beings are all-knowledgeable.Do not conflate the two as being the same thing, they have different definitions for a reason.
>>539753618>Eggman would probably program a sense of taste for herI could see it happening if she gets curious when he is eating something. I could also see her even being able to give herself the ability to taste. I'm sure giving herself taste is nothing compared to giving herself sentience.
>>539754138Being omnipotent automatically grants you omniscience, because you can't be omnipotent (all-powerful, almighty), if you are dumbass who can't solve a simple math problem
>>539754107Sonic...
>>539753005you'd have a better chance at making adventure 3 yourself
>>539753997The secret ingredient is garlic.
i just downloaded the racing demo and can't rebind steering to the arrow keyscare to explain yourselves?
https://x.com/Ensky_Hobby/status/1968970823710151071
>>539754340Azathoth
>>539754446Why does Knuckles look like he's traced from his shitty 3D model?
Doom Cock
>>539754635is not omnipotent
Tails is for GROWN and MATURE WOMEN!Not men!
>>539754814Based and *SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH*
There is a LEGIT tails pic on a dress done by SOJthe fox suck cocks for a living and Sonic is his biggest client
>>539754340The Master Emerald is a dumbass that can't solve a simple math problem, that's why Robotnik became omnipotent in the first place, it's all-powerful but has no will of its own, therefor it doesn't do any of the endless amount of things it can do.The Master Emerald, the thing that Robotnik got his power from, is something that is omnipotent, but not omniscient.
>>539755160>one serious punch from CHADvok
>>539755049>>539755049>There is a LEGIT tails pic on a dress done by SOJThe same country where femboys can be straight?
>>539755160Kek, based
I just realized now that sonic and the gang in sonic X (haven't played adventure 2 yet I dunno if it's the same) saw Gerald get fucking executed live. Like you hear the gunshot.
YOU GOT DIS SONIC
>>539755038Imagine Nine being forced down by a human woman and forced to take all the kisses and smooches she desires and the only thing he can do is growl and yelp.
>>539755368You don't here the gunshots but he is still executed by firing squad. gunshots might be in the Japanese version I don't know but I don't believe they're in the English version unless they're completely drowned out by the poor audio mixing
>>539755368I don't think they did, but Gerald's execution was broadcasted across the entire planet anyway.
>>539754814This artist and bigdad made me to start liking that crackship.Porn aside, because I don't really care that much about that content, is pretty cute the wholesome pics of that crackship.
Sonic
>>539755281He really tossed her away like a used slut
monke needs to live
Shadow
>>539755694I will be drawing Whisper with her guts out today, don't worry
>>539755434And that is why i love hfoma, nothing melts me more than a male being chosen as a mate by a lovely female.>RELEASE ME! YOU... YOU OVERGROWN APE!>>teehee small potato <3 <3 *smoochies*
Silver
>>539754814Tails likes both guys and girls.
>>539755574They were in both English and Japanese. 4kids forgot to remove them so you just hear Gerald talking over him eating a bullet. He tanked that shit fr.>>539755586Lol that's fucking brutal
Amy
Bun!
Metal
>>539755992I was talking about in SA2 not sonic X
Play the games.
>>539756079sexymanlycute
>>539756410I don't want to anymore.
>>539756410Nah, i'll read comics
>>539757018>>539757113You think this is about what you want? I ordered you to play the games, and you will. You should be grateful I'm even giving you the choice to select a Sonic game to your liking. Do not disappoint me.
Oh my God she's even more of a brat in Japanese WHY THE FUCK HAVENT I LEARNED MOONRUNES YET IM MISSING OUT
Mindbreak Belle!
>>539756410No way fag
You will like the stinky lemur
>>539757658she's a gamer just like us
>silverfags want him to be in movie 4 so he can bum off the hype of a game that didn't fuck up time travel as badly as his own game did
Amy wearing cute giant cartoon glasses, because she mistakes Shadow and Silver as Sonic!Sonic seeing Amy with those stupid glasses!Sonic PLAPPING and BREEDING Amy!
>>539755694fat fucking bitch
>>539758884uuu tangle you're forcing me to eat another 2 liters of ice cream with your hurtful words
I want to take whisper to an all you can eat buffet until the staff kicks us out.
I want to take whisper
I want to cook Lanolin's chops for dinner.
in this franchise, if you are not a shounenfag, you are a hellokittyfag. period.
hello kitty is based
>>539754446Shadow should have been superman, vector should be batman
in this franchise either side with edgelordshit or with babbyshit. period.
In this franchise, purists are losers and everythingfags are winners.
>>539754446>John Stewart as Green Lanterngood
I like the middle ground. Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, the Adventure games, the Dimps games, Unleashed. That's a perfectly balanced style. Not too dark, not too cutesy, but a good balance of both
>>539760614BasadoNot entirely on board with the Dimps games but, BASADO
>>539757245Sucks to be non-canon, huh?
>>539757245Just toss her in the fireplace.
Sthg is dead! Very nice.Rest in piss, schizoid faggots.
... i feel alone...
Who up creaming they rabbit?
The idiots that run sega are swinging from one extreme to the other like they've done with every other decision they've made with this franchise. SEGA isn't making Amy a better character, they're just removing traits Amy already had because they're too incompetent to make sure they're done right. Besides the crush, Amy was passionate, sincere, whimsical, eager, optimistic, instinct-driven, etc. And now the lead female of our series has only one character trait, which is basic compassion, because sega doesn't have the talent or the budget to write her with whimsy, energy or affection without it looking disturbing.
>>539763631This will forever be the greatest model ever made by man
>>539763968Nah that's stupid
>>539763968>Ian trying to blame mandates again to distract from his bad writingNice try bro
So is that thing about one of the idw writers recommending a degenerate tranny porn book in one of the comics real. Because how the fuck are they not fired and blacklisted by sega if they did that shit.
>>539764319Yes but I can't remember the issue so you'll just have to trust™
>>539764251Fuck him too, put him on a leash like a Rottweiler
>>539764319Don't worry senpai I gotchahttps://grabber.zone/comics/sonic-idw/sonic-the-hedgehog-76/>>539764386Issue #76 you big gay faggot
>>539764319It's partially true, I'd argue it's inappropriate for a comic like this but wouldn't go so far as to call it "porn".
>>539764839Okay, post the pages on a blue board then.
>>539764835>Pedophile trannies advertising tranny porn in a kids comicThey just can't fucking help themselves can they
>>539764319Yes.
>>539765012We should have gatekept these mentally ill freaks harder
>>539764319>>539765012The recommended reading age for IDW Sonic is 9 - 12 years old. When confronted, she justified it by saying it's "for 14+".You'd be surprised just how many people will defend this, even in this very general.
*talking out of the corner of my mouth* I'll defend it!*whipping my head back and forth self-righteously* WHO SAID THAT?!
REMINDER>>539728602>>539729096>>539731468>>539732040>>539734780First Frontiers has a screenshot of Tails based on the DX version with a few DC details, then CrossWorlds has a screenshot of Amy based on the DC version with DX windows, different skybox and further camera angle (+Sonic Adventure 2 seemingly has two Battle screenshots and one DC screenshot).SOMETHING SEEMS TO BE GOING ON WITH SONIC ADVENTURE, BUT WHAT?
>>539765130You atack the only person here trying to do that so fuck off
>>539765338I don't follow namefag drama so I don't know what you're referring to. Sorry bro.Regardless, I wish there was a way to alert Sega reps to this nonce business.
I'm pretty confident Gigi isn't a pedo and is more or less just retarded with this shit. I have a distant family member that talks exactly like that and does not know when to fucking shut up nor does she think about it the way an adult should. I do not think you all understand how utterly naive some of these people are. Regardless it's still inappropriate for the comic and an editor should have both axed the question and gave a warning. That said I'll always welcome people shitting on 76, so keep it up. Fuck issue 76. Hate everything about it other than Lanolin apologizing. Easily the shittiest issue in the entire comic, which is pretty fucking impressive.
67
>>53976593567 and 76 are just the reverse of each other so it makes sense the other one is also turbo garbage.
>>539765841What happened in it? Did Rouge hit on Tails or something?
Why is this defended during American hours, but not during Euro hours?
>I would pump cream, Marine and sage with so much cum they turned orbular but I would NEVER EVER EVER recommend tranny porn to a real child.Hmm... I see... This is /sthg/
>>539766316Americans voted in a pedophile, they know what they're about.
>>539766062A whole lotta nothing other than Jewel being sad and Lanolin apologizing. It starts with shit like Amy and Tails feeling bad about a blimp that fell and wastes nearly half the issue on stuff like that before getting to the actual meat. And it's supposed to serve as a resolution for the previous arc's teamwork drama, but fails miserably at it. Mainly because they wrote an entire arc where the whole issue with the team was they don't communicate. So they have Lanolin apologize, which is good and all but then she just handwaves Tangle/Whisper effectively backstabbing her by ghosting and Whisper crashing out on civilians when looking for Mimic as being deserved because she was mean.
I love Blazeu
>>539766489It's because Lanolin is white.
>>539766489And the Nu-Diamond Cutters essentially broke up after that too, making the whole team and their interactions pointless. Evan probably saw all the negative reception they got and just did away with team and benched Lanolin.
Sonic characters for this feel?
>>539767387Mighty
Ass.
>>539766316>Krack just tells the truth>"UUUUUUUUUUUU I'M UNDER ATTACK"Kek.
>>539767690Ass?
>>539768019they're blaming her for doxxing gigi because that single callout led to someone doing that allegedly (no proof)
Since their pairing now has an official nomenclature, does that mean that they're an official group like the rest of the Teams?
>>539766416So? I would dick down Tails’ underage boy ass but that’s because he’s a fictional character. Not real, stay mad
>>539765841The problem is they've got the mental maturity of a 14 years old, egocentrism and narcissism are poured in gallons and all these online addicted retards are writing not for the audience, but for themselves and only themselves.If i have to accuse the retard of pedophilia because she mentioned her pisscancer lgbt comic to punish her, then so be it. They are way worse anyways, even with the most moderate positions you'll be labeled as nazi by them.
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>539752529>Amy: strawberry shortcakeAmy's favorite food, originally, is soft serve Ice Cream as that's what Sonic Channel says.
I asked chat what the group dynamic between the three of these two could be and this is what it came up with based off the information on the net about them, is it accurate?Group Dynamics: Silver, Blaze, and AriemOverall Team Dynamic: The Serious Strategist, The Stoic Protector, and The DreamerComplementary Powers: As a trio, they would balance each other well. Silver’s psychokinesis could handle more physical or direct threats, Blaze’s pyrokinesis could deal with combat or elemental challenges, and Ariem could influence the environment or offer guidance through dream-related challenges. Their powers would complement each other in a battle or a mission where the dream world and reality blur.Blaze as the Peacemaker: Blaze would likely serve as the calm, grounding influence in the group. When Silver’s idealism clashes with Ariem’s dreamlike approach, Blaze would step in to mediate. She’d have a more balanced perspective, understanding both Silver’s sense of responsibility and Ariem’s more detached, spiritual view of the world.Silver’s Determination vs. Ariem’s Fluidity: While Silver might be focused on getting results and finding concrete solutions, Ariem’s unpredictable dream world could throw him off course. He may try to force his own way, but Ariem might show him that some things can’t be controlled in the same way. This could lead to some interesting conversations about fate, free will, and the nature of reality.Ariem as the Wild Card: Ariem’s mysterious and surreal nature could make her both an asset and a potential wildcard in the group. She might be the one who brings creative solutions, but her lack of attachment to the physical world could make her seem unpredictable or difficult to understand at times. The others might have to trust her intuition, even when they don’t fully understand her approach.
>>539768356This confirms Silver will never be important again and I love that for him.
>>539768607>Ariem is the big in team rose
>>539768259Probably krack never had to lift a finger besides that post, no matter how much libshittery about her (((that namefag))) stirs from time to time around here. You got someone denouncing gigi with a yt video, and a wave of industry dox for the moment so it could be anyone.
>>539768718You're saying Blaze will ever be important there anon
>>539768878I am well aware. Fuck the both of them. Side games are the only place they belong.
>>539768356>Team futurele bad>Team dimensionle goodBlazefags are babies
>>539768543Another thing cream the rodent stole from amy
Silver is Light Sonic, Blaze is Nega-Sonic. For all intents and purposes, this is just Sonic & Blaze. The entire point of Sonic & Blaze is their dichotomy as polar opposites, like the north and south magnetic poles. This should logically carry over to Silver & Blaze, since Silver mirrors Sonic. Within this binary system, what would a "third" factor logically be? I like to think of Blaze as the ideal 5th character, after Knuckles, whose after Amy, whose after Tails. If I line them all up with the numbers I guess I arbitrarily assigned them, the middle would be Amy. Which would result in Sonic/Silver, Amy and Blaze. This is what 06 did. Amy as Girl Sonic, and Blaze as Nega-Sonic are inherently opposites to each other as well. Two girls designed around Sonic, where one mirrors him and the other foils him. But the dynamic between Blaze and Amy exists, in some form, between Blaze and whoever her "Tails" is. In Rush, they used Cream for this. In Rush Adventure, she got her own ACTUAL Tails, which is Marine. So I guess in conclusion, the ideal third teammate for Silver & Blaze is Marine, after alll...? Or at the very least, someone specifically Amy-shaped in overall vibe and personality and such. But because Silver is "Fly" and Blaze is "Speed", she'd have to be "Power". Which Amy isn't, and Marine is Nega-Tails so she should logically be Fly too, at least the same way Kit would be.
Sparky, finish my vore commission, what am I paying you for
>>539769078Do you think Cream split off of Amy via mitosis and Vanilla just adopted her?
>>539769134You never paid me anything.You have only ever brought up "vore commissions" in this general, likely as a joke at my expense, but you have never made any attempt to reach out to me outside of this place for any actual commission details or sent me any money at all. Either commission me for real, or shut the heck up. Not that I'd wanna do that kind of commission in the first place, though...
>>539768607These three all have a theme of psychological superpowers and stewardship of other worlds >Silver is telekinetic and guards the future >Blaze is pyrokinetic and guards the Sol Dimension >Ariem is oneirokinetic and guards the Reverie
>>539769090>I like to think of Blaze as the ideal 5th character,Stopped reading there.
>>539765012I know she's one of those radqueer/pro para types I just can't prove it
>>539768607I want to kill this Ariem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBO-LR6ylKgBased all around
>>539769572Marine sucks.
>>539769431The point from there is what 06 did with having Amy be the third character for Silver & Blaze. Using Marine as an alternative is basically a reskin of that, since Marine is largely just another Amy despite being "Nega-Tails". My train of thought at first when writing that post was "if Sonic/Silver is the lead guy here, and Blaze is his polar-opposite, who would be the third be in this binary-system?", but then I realized that Blaze herself is opposite to Amy. In a similar way, at least, to Knuckles being Sonic's Rival but often being grouped in alongside Tails. If Knuckles, then TailsIf Blaze, then AmySo, if Silver is with Blaze, then the third should be Amy, who is also opposite to Blaze through her link back to Sonic. But logically, Amy has Team Rose. But, Blaze has her own discount Amy as a result of trying to give Blaze a discount Tails, and Amy is basically a Nega-Tails, so we get Marine. So the logical third candidate for Silver & Blaze is Marine.
When I think of cream, I have to jack off
>>539769672Silver isn't the lead. Blaze is. Silver is her rouge. So the third should be an omega.
Douge
>>539769843>Silver isn't the lead.He is the Sonic, so he's the lead.Rouge being the actual leader of Team Dark is irrelevant, SHADOW is the lead guy because he is SONIC. So, if Silver & Blaze, the Sonic mirror > Sonic's Foil. Silver relying on Blaze more is irrelevant, narrative focus WILL be given to Silver more the same way it would be given to Sonic more.
>>539769213>Not that I'd wanna do that kind of commission in the first place, though...A month ago:>hey, i need as much money as i can
>>539769213>Not that I'd wanna do that kind of commission in the first place, though...You'd definietely want that
The wind more like the gay.
>>539769929>>539769946I do need money. But I generally would rather avoid having to do that, if I can.
>>539769919Blaze is the sonic. Duh. The third should be a rogue eggbot cause deny destiny motif.
behold
>>539752529Sonic: chilli dogsTails: mint candyKnuckles: fruit, especially grapesAmy: soft-serve ice cream, but she also seems to like strawberry shortcakeCream: ice cream (in general?)Shadow: black coffee and coffee beansRouge: you'll never believe this, but vanilla/chocolate-swirl ice cream, according to the Sonic Wiki page on her Sonic X version (no source provided so they coult be making crap up)Vector: bubblegum (is this really a "food" though?)Charmy: honeyEspio: dangoBig: fish, duhSilver: applesBlaze: apparently cold finger food, but take this with a grain of salt since only BumbleKast brought this up and it seems to be internal info not corroborated anywhere else yetEggman: poached eggs and fried chickenChip: Chocolate Chip Sundae SupremeI think the rest are unknown; Sonic Wiki Zone says Fang's is fruit but no source is given, and Tangle's is listed as strawberries but again it's BumbleKast headcanon of characters that aren't Ian's.
>>539765012>>539765139>wind hater is a literal pedophile groomerImagine my shock
>>539769843Blaze only lore explains that, being a leader and all, but she never was the lead when another character is around even next to Sonic she gets tard wrangled, thats why her dynamic with Silver sucks because she acts like a mentor while she barely knows shit about anybody or herself in the first place, Blaze strong suit is politics and that's it. not to say Silver is lead as well he's way more brash almost like her exact opposite where he's very open, but they're both in the same boat being the lead, that's why they're dynamic should be seen as more dangerous to enemies and that's why third option should not just be the lead but someone who actively calms them down as well, or in case of Marine make them a bit considered and mature.
>>539770136OocGayer than Sonadow and Sonknux
>>539769843>Silver is her rouge.Actually, to respond to this part in particular...What the heck are you talking about? Rouge is the real Leader of Team Dark, for all intents and purposes. What are you smoking, to ever come to the conclusion that Silver = Rouge? Between Silver & Blaze, BLAZE is the Rouge. >>539770059Blaze is Nega-Sonic. Silver is Light-Sonic. That means SILVER = Sonic, because Blaze = / = Sonic. Both are Sonics equivalents from different worlds, but Silver is the direct Sonic clone, Blaze is Sonic's OPPOSITE. Either way, there's no reason to conclude that a rogue Eggman robot like Omega would be the third guy. That makes no sense, at all. Shadow, Rouge & Omega are from Sonic Adventure 2's Dark Side, which itself is built on Sonic, Knuckles and Gamma's Adventure gameplay. Omega is a replacement for Eggman who was a replacement for Gamma. Between Silver & Blaze, the best fit is Amy. Because the only fitting candidate for a third member when one member is Blaze and the other is just Sonic basically, is someone like Amy. And that means the best fit is simply Marine.
>>539770226Blaze should be the lead in team dimensions. And with an eggpawn. Silver can be the charmy
SonMarine and Blazails.
>fans hate Amy Rose >Cream shares a lot of traits with Amy >fans hate Cream >Marine shares a lot of traits with Amy as well >fans hate Marine What was meant by this?
>>539770024So you'd do that. Amy vore when?
Sperm speeder
>>539770451Platinum Sperm
>>539770423Amy Rose fucking sucks as a character.
>>539770136>Great great great Grandfather and great great great Grandchild bonding timeCute underrated ship
>>539770423>>>>Fans hate creamSo desu ne...
>>539770423Amy/Cream/Marinefans are the most oppressed group in the Sonic Fandom.
>>539770451Everything about Silver's aesthetic is fucking trash
>>539770564We already discussed in the last thread that Cream was one of the most hated characters in the 2000s. She's only played so much in Crossworlds because once again, her gameplay is broken.
>>539770423>>Cream shares a lot of traits with AmyThis isn't even true. Cream is Amy's Tails. Cream CONTRASTS Amy's traits. What they have in common is the generic idea of "Girl". But who they ARE as girls is vastly different. Amy is a passionate and enthusiastic genki girl tomboy whose full of emotion with a hot head. Cream is calm and collected, patient, raised with strict discipline making her very polite and reasonable. The problem is that both personalities get ignored in favor of classifying both under "cute girl", so Amy's more hot headed traits get turned into ways to make her look "Crazy" so Cream looks "cuter" by comparison.
Classic Amy and Cream act the EXACT same.
>>539770649Cope
>>539770451Silver
>>539770610Nah the weed quills are still peak
>>539770758It's the truth. Anons posted old posts from Sonic Retro and Sonic Stadium to show how much hate Cream got.
I disagree. You're dumb.
>>539770153Sonic: chilli dogsTails: mint candyKnuckles: fruit, especially grapesAmy: soft-serve ice cream, but she also seems to like strawberry shortcakeCream: ice cream (in general?)Shadow: black coffee and coffee beansRouge: you'll never believe this, but vanilla/chocolate-swirl ice cream, according to the Sonic Wiki page on her Sonic X version (no source provided so they coult be making crap up)Vector: bubblegum (is this really a "food" though?)Charmy: honeyEspio: dangoBig: fish, duhSilver: applesBlaze: apparently cold finger food, but take this with a grain of salt since only BumbleKast brought this up and it seems to be internal info not corroborated anywhere else yetEggman: poached eggs and fried chickenChip: Chocolate Chip Sundae SupremeClutch: Limited Edition Chaos Cola X-Treme Berry BlazzztI think the rest are unknown. Sonic Wiki Zone says Fang's is fruit but no source is given; Tangle's is listed as strawberries, Whisper's is poundcake, and Jewel's is double sauce chicken wings, but that could be Ian's on-the-fly bs.
>>539770580Amy is going to be in Movie 4 and Cream was reintroduced to the main cast again. It's just Marine who was banned after Rush Adventure
>>539770842I don't care about what a handful of insecure faggots have to say. I believe in raw data and the open and closed betas both tell me Cream is a beloved sugar cookie and everyone is happy to see her back.
>>539758742
>>539770802they look stupid
>>539770926for >>539752529, correction.
>>539770580>Amy/Cream/Marinefans experiencing 1% of silverfags suffering
>>539770962Marinefags are the most oppressed people ever.
>>539770842>old posts from Sonic Retro and Sonic Stadiumsparked a memory, and today I learned that SWS2B basically doesn't exist on the Wayback Archive because of how it was self-hosted on a custom port
>>539771094rightfully so
>>539771075Silverfags invented a whole ass AU which is getting its own fangame. What does Marine even have to her name? Blazefags only pretend to give a shit about her and prefer Sonic, Silver or Cream as her companion.
>>539770724No they don't. Classic Amy is still Amy Rose, and is still a passionate and energetic tomboyish girl, who WILL throw hands and get down and dirty on a whim just to have fun. That is why she has the hammer in Sonic the Fighters. This is not Cream. Cream is always on her best behavior, follows the rules, does as she is told, and is very polite and disciplined in her manners. Amy and Cream, as Girls, were treated the same way in the developers not wanting cute girls to physically attack themselves. Amy was given the Piko Piko Hammer while Cream was given Cheese for the Chao Attack. The difference between using a giant magical hammer and commanding a cute fairy creature to attack for you, is a perfect reflection of the distinction between Amy and Cream's personalities.
>>539771198It should be enough evidence that small ass dialogue made fan content to how much ridiculed and abandoned Silver was as a character.
Hugo Brass, i wonder what his moveset is
Any fan that tries to disagree with Sonic being the wind and tries to make him a relatable/shipping character is a red flag.
>>539771497I think you fags are just autistic for this blue fast rat.
Cream is a kind of Sonic
>>539770508Then why does this faggot franchise keep making sonic act like her?
Sonknux is not a wind ship but just feels right
>>539771075Silverfags are pussies. He literally hasn't existed long enough to get a fraction of the hate amy has.
>>539771590I think you hate Sonic
>>539771181Blame blaze for being such a shit, boring character that she needs to leech off a hedgehog for relevance and never launched her own side of the franchise like shadow did
>>539771591Cream is Kid Girl Sonic. She is a Girl Tails + Kid Amy. The girl version of Sonic's younger sibling, the kid version of Sonic's love interest. Tails & Amy both have Warmth to contrast Sonic's Coolness, so Cream has Coolness to contrast Tails & Amy's warmth. Thus, Sonic & Cream are both Cool. After all, there's nothing cooler than the nice chill breeze of the wind and some Ice Cream. But, Cream heavily contrasts Sonic by being Tails-like in nature, with the added emphasis of being polite and disciplined in nature to contrast Sonic & Amy being carefree and "rude" by comparison.
We need more Sonaze cucking Amy and SilverAnd then they both fuck in front of them as revenge just like that one movie scene
drugged chillidog sauce
>>539771836So she should be the 5th member!
>>539771872Thats certainly an ideaYou can commission Quaver anytime you want
>>539771872How about blaze and silver both fuck off forever
>>539770926Anyone know where the wiki is pulling their favorite food data on Fang and (Sonic X) Rouge?Unfortunately Fandom locked down page histories like it's from China.
>>539771962How much shit archie managed to pull?
>>539771972The "5th member" is shadow. No one gives a shit about any character that's not in the movies already
>>539771962This image feels a bit surreal, uncanny, you got cartoonish images, happy faces, then there is "Those that have passed" and Mello dead at the bottom
>>539772131Ain't no way Shadow likes to be a member of anything, hell even Rouge looked off in the 5th spot
Who are the actual main characters of the IDW comics?
>>539771972No. Princess Daisy / Daisy Duck are TERRIBLE "5th Member" choices. For example: Minnie Mouse is just Girl Mickey. Donald is Mickey's mischievous prankster side, Goofy is Mickey's silly and clumsy side. What is Daisy Duck? Donald's Girl. She is Donald's Minnie + Minnie's Donald. Same with Princess Daisy. Luigi and Peach are both tied directly to Mario, but Daisy is just giving Luigi a Peach, and Peach a Luigi. Sure, Daisy's first appearance was as a princess for Mario to save one time, but that's just being a discount Peach in general before they retooled her from the ground up to be a second princess to be paired with Luigi or whatever. But either way, neither of these two Daisies can ever be truly as relevant as their friends because they lack that direct link back to the main character in a significant way. What would Mickey and Daisy have isn't just Mickey and Donald again? What would Sonic & Cream have that isn't just Sonic & Tails, it's a little sister rather than a brother? This is why I say the 5th character should be Blaze. Because "give Tails a GF, give Knuckles a GF, or give Amy a BFF" are automatically terrible candidates for "Fifth core cast member". The most important thing is how they relate back TO SONIC.
>>539771962>Here are the characters who passed away, as you nobly remember them alive...>"Mitch, we're running out of space on the page!">Fuck it, he wasa druggy, just show his just-cold corpse lying down.
>>539772230It doesn't matter what the nigga wants. He'll sit in that seat if daddy sega has a light bill to pay
Classic Sonic should be on Team Dimensions
>>539772309Tangle, whisper, lanolin and surge
>>539772406>light billAre you an arab?
>>539771832Shadow literally leeches off of Sonic by being exactly like him but edgier.
>>539772556Shadow didn't need sonic taking up space on the box art when he got his own game
Sonic OVA is the best animated representation of sonic.Cream is the fifth member.Sonic any Amy love each other mutually.Rouge cannot be a core member until she learns to spindash.Shadow doesn't need to be in anything, he should however be in everything.Current Eggman is badly handled.IDW is better than Archie as a sonic comic. It's still not very good.X is a better sonic animation than satam. It's still not very good.Japan canon supersedes American canon. Sonic = wind.All these statements are factually correct, anyone who disagrees is a faggot or not a sonic fan.
>>539772678This is all correct
>>539772678Based
>>539772678>Sonic OVA is the best animated representation of sonic.perhaps i shall watch it today
>>539772640And it was the most critically panned Sonic game until 06 beat it.
>>539772347Cream relates directly back to sonic more than she does Amy. We already beat your ass about this one I don't care what you THINK segas INTENTIONS in developing cream were, what she is now is already different than that and the games up to dream team have already reinforced that point. Cream is not "Amy's friend". Cream is Cream.
OK, but like, she was actually autistic, right?
>>539772678Rouge can spindash
>>539770226Silver and Blaze literally need their own cast from their respective settings.
>>539772865NANI?!
>>539772678>IDW is better than Archie as a sonic comic.If you mean IDW is not a wasteland of plots and sub-plots then yes, but archie is way more entertaining in its garbage.
What Sonic thinks of Anton now that he is grown up?
>>539771349Silverfags are so starved they'll pull a Jesus with any crumb of bread thrown their way.
>>539772837>Cream relates directly back to sonic more than she does AmyNo the heck she doesn't. There is no "Sonic and Cream" dynamic that isn't just Sonic & Tails again. At best, Cream is just another Tails. Her actual role is Amy's sidekick, but if you remove that and just have her around Sonic himself, she will overwrite both Amy and Tails and become Girl #1 AND the cute kid sibling sidekick all at the same time, and both Amy and Tails will get overlooked and treated like trash because Cream will get all the love and attention.
>>539772856Mating press. Now
>>539772131Is he really?He always felt more like a "sixth ranger" but without actually joining the team.
>>539772836Because the same talentless hacks made both. If anyone else made a shadow game, it would've printed money
>>539772856Pile drive. On sight.
>>539772856I looked just like this as a little redhaired kid, same outfit and "name-on-clothes" and everything
>>539772990Yeah and satam is probably a better cartoon quality wise than X but it's not a good sonic cartoon. You get me?
>>539772514And Silver.Seriously, Silver has made more appearances in the comic than Shadow and Knuckles.
>>539772837Because sonic needs another redundant sidekick
Jimbotnik
>>539773095>Her actual role is (headcanon)Literally not the case. Not even in heros was it the case Amy and Cream had two completely different objectives that just happened to align along with bigs. It's literally not the case in any game cream plays a significant role in.
I want cookies
Cream is not "Girl #2" material. She is exclusively a Girl #1 variant, that can only be the sidekick to the actual Girl #1, which is Amy. When you look at Sonic X and how that kind of stuff handles them, Cream is the one who is treated the most like the general "cute girl" character, while Amy is treated like the contrast to that. This means that CREAM was Girl 1, and AMY was Girl 2. The "Amy" that all the Amy haters hate, who gets treated like a psycho stalker, was more like the secondary, contrasting girl character than an actual primary lead female that she's supposed to be. Try and fit Cream into the Core 4, and Cream directly intrudes on both Amy and Tails' roles. It's one thing to have to balance Amy and Cream, but having to balance Tails and Cream at the same time, while keeping the focus squarely on Sonic, is a nigh-impossibility. They're all gonna get blended together because Cream blurs the boundary between Amy and Tails too much. She shares too many of both of their traits that they all become one big mass of cuteness or whatever, and so Tails would end up being treated as a walking brain and Amy will end up having her aggressive side amplified to astronomical areas.
>>539773180What matters is what makes money, and out of the 7 core characters (sonic, tails, knuckles, amy, Shadow, eggman, metal sonic) Shadow is closer to sonic than he is to eggman
>>539771962>died at the Happyland Amusement Parklmao at this crap
>>539773595We can't have kino like that anymore.
>>539772856CUNNYYYY ToT
>>539773456>Not even in heros was it the caseThat is a lie, and you know it. Cream in Heroes is 100% firmly Amy's sidekick, and the whole point with Team Rose is their goals aligning into one big mass of wanting to save all of their friends. Amy, Cream and Big were helping each other just as much as they were helping themselves, if not more so. Amy was leading the team with the focus of finding EVERYONE, not just Sonic. Amy's priority was also on finding Chocola and Froggy, and throughout the story, Amy serves as an uplifting motivator inspiring Cream and Big to keep on going with the faith that they will find their friends.
>>539773521Just say creamfans are pedophiles and you'll get the point across with less letters
>>539773456Battle, sorta.
>>539773521>This means that CREAM was Girl 1, and AMY was Girl 2. The "Amy" that all the Amy haters hate, who gets treated like a psycho stalker, was more like the secondary, contrasting girl character than an actual primary lead female that she's supposed to be. There is literally NOTHING to ever support that outside of Advance 2 which made Amy into an unlockable character instead of part of the story. Cream was the Tails clone in Heroes, a damsel in Shad05, an NPC in Rush and then she totally dropped from the franchise for years until Dream Team and Crossworlds. Even in Sonic X she's on the lower end of character screentime.
Unfinished art from 2 years ago
>>539770926Sticks' love of cake is enough to offset her fear of technology, so consider that an addition to the list.
>>539773823What is Satam Robotnik doing here.
Can you play through the story in the demo?
Good morning. I realized kinda last minute that I (Espio's human wife) will be too busy to host the whiteboard this weekend. If anyone wants to take over for me, feel free.
>Cream makes them make Amy into a psycho stalker >Meanwhile Dream Team and Crossworlds Cream did nothing wrong. It was the retarded writers who wrote her that way.
>>539773919Its actually Robo-Robotnik, the whole premise is that Robo-Robotnik to a certain degree leaked into IDW due to him being the main antagonist in Archie and techically being the same in Post-SGW, whom's future plans included Metal Virus, which IDW realized after Archie's end
>>539773989Now the retarded writers are making Amy a boring housewife because Vanilla is still vaulted
Cream being a tails is a funny idea when you realize that Cream is just as likely to run head first into danger without thinking. She does it in advanced and again in dream team and also in the sonic channel mini story (she doesn't get to fight though she just saved people). It's actually tails who tries to stop her in dream team from running into a random boss fight so if anything tails is creams tail there.
>>539774076I see. The art looks cool!
>>539773965Aight Eggchad, you're up
>>539773039Silver eats pretty well for a character that isn't Shadow or the core 4. It's like hearing a Sonic fan complain about a drought
>>539774201This is why I can't get into the Taiream ship. She lacks the intelligence and maturity to keep up with Tails and he'll have to keep babysitting her like everybody else does.
I'm gonna fuck the trifecta
>>539774160I doubt they even remember Vanilla exists outside of being something for Vector to simp for.
>>539774283What i see from their complaints is a good representation in a game or a good gameplay, since he's the only character who doesn't have these
>>539774501a grown adult with presumably her own life and interests, who exists close to but not part of the Sonic Gang?...yuck! now about my pangender disabled nonbinary OC named Sherbet Squeeze
>>539774639>a grown adult with presumably her own life and interests, who exists close to but not part of the Sonic Gang?Big, Shadow, Rouge, Storm, Wave all exist
>>539770926I would not take anything bunglekrap says unless it's supported by a second source. Ian did an entire series of questions "in character" as Big where he claimed he doesn't eat fish, he just throws them back in the water like a dope. Idiot didn't realize profiles list fish as his favorite food. Big eats fish like a good kitty.
>>539773507Bitchin'!
>>539774583He's supposed to be #3...It's not fair...
>>539773419https://youtu.be/C8I6OLsOb00?si=JU5gm6fQkB3yk8k9
>>539774583They can wait because Silver is not the only character that suffered from the Meta Era
>>539773802>There is literally NOTHING to ever support that outside of Advance 2 which made Amy into an unlockable character instead of part of the story.I don't mean screentime wise or whatever, I mean how it gets perceived. Between Cream and Amy and how they are portrayed in stuff like X, many aspects of Amy's character is projected onto Cream instead, and Amy is seen as the flanderized "psycho stalker" version of herself. Amy is supposed to be a compassionate, uplifting, optimistic cute character, but all those traits end up projected onto Cream, so Amy is just seen as some crazy girl who likes Sonic with nothing else to her. Cream basically overtakes what Amy is supposed to be, while Amy becomes a flattened joke parody of herself. This is how they were perceived.
Cream is kinda stupid but that makes her cute. She's nice and polite but also blunt in a way where she sometimes says rude things without realizing. This is also cute. She's small and adorable but also very strong and athletic, this juxtaposition is very cute. She's a kind hearted pacifist who hates violence but could unironically lowdiff 90% of the cast, this is also very cute. Cream is quick to be scared but will push on ahead anyways because she is, unironically, the bravest character in the franchise, this is very adorable.In short, Cream is the cutest any Sonic character could actually be. She is max cuteness.
>>539771717Silver received way more ridicule than Amy.
Naugus
>>539773989>It was the retarded writers who wrote her that way.Yes, it is the writer's fault, not the character's. But the problem NOW is that Amy's writing is a direct response to the problem BACK THEN, so the pendulum has swung in the other direction.
>>539775227I found out his name is actually supposed to be spelled "Nagus" via SatAM and that "Naugus" is some kind of misspelling.
>>539775115Crazy thought but a lot of characters could share a spotlight at the same time like SA1
>>539774201>Cream is just as likely to run head first into danger without thinkingBetween Cream and Amy, Cream is always the one criticizing Amy for this exact behavior at every turn. So like, it's either Cream is being written like Tails, or she's being written like Amy.
>>539774450Silver looks so good as a cat
>>539775027Amy was already the "3rd" hedgehog before this wankstain was a twinkle in nakamura's eye and Sonic 3 just made sure of it
>>539775338Nah Shadow and Silver killed that concept
>>539775115>2006He can wait let's fix other characters>2016He can wait let's fix other characters>2026He can wait let's fix oth-Fuck off
>>539775237>the problem with Amy was that she's mostly useless and annoying >They managed to make her stop being annoying and now they need to make her useful Maybe Frontiers 2 or Movie 4 can finally make the character likable to the normies.
>>539775338>a lot of characters could share a spotlightYes but that's not what I see Silverfags say they want nor does that change what I said
Solaris
>>539775401Technically, she's the 2nd hedgehog since she debuted before Shadow, but her name doesn't start with an S so she's not considered part of THE hedgehog circle.
Enerjak save me....save me Enerjak...
>>539775517Amy's character is already likable to the normies, since her personality ends up being projected onto Sonic for some stupid reason. They just don't understand that it's Amy's personality in the first place.
I figured asking you guys should work: Is CrossWorlds any good?Is it better than Mario Kart this time?
>>539775445More like >2006FUCK ALL THESE SHITTY NEW CHARACTER. JUST GIVE US SONIC, TAILS AND KNUCKLES >2016SEE WE TOLD YOU TO DUMP ALL THE SHITTY NEW CHARACTERS. MANIA LOOKS GOOD WITH JUST SONIC, TAILS AND KNUCKLES >2026WHY IS SHADOW TAKING ALL THE SCREENTIME? WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER CHARACTERS?
>>539775027>Sonic 06 was the only non-mobile slop game where Silver used his Super form and the story retconned itself out of existence so it's like he never had it in the first place.
>>539775606Said nobody but the Dr. Zachary wannabe named Finitevus.
>>539775120>>539775135The hyperactive adhd retards at sonic team in the 2000s loved rehashing the same character traits into new characters as if the fanbase would be fooled by the new packaging
>>539775635It feels faster, has better customization options, feels more like a traditional arcade racer than MKW. There's little faffing about but it has some side content as well. The roster is respectable but the price has put some people off. It's different, but it seems to do what people wanted out of mkw better than MKW did. MKW feels like it was made to push the switch 2, not be a good Mario kart. Crossworlds feels the opposite
>>539775338Crazy thought but I don't believe sonic team can even be trusted to get sonic right
>>539775734Shitdow fatigue is literally so real
It's been 19 years. Silver isn't gonna reach the same heights as Shadow. Just accept that he's a side character, not a major character or a pseudo-main character.
>>539775616I'd laugh my ass off if the movie people end up writing Amy like Windnic because they can't backtrack on Movienic's character this late into the movieverse.And the audience STILL finds her annoying and cringe which means that Windfags were wrong about Sonic's character being appealing the whole time
>>539775517They did that with Mania Adventures 6, TMOSTH, and the classic idw comics. It's the dumbfucks at sonic team that have always been the problem.
>>539775875Cream is more just a mishmash of endearing qualities . Whenever I see hatred over cream it's always superficial shit like "her voice is so annoying" or "she's too cute for my 2 cool for skool action game eww gay" and those are American only problems. She has good qualities, a lot of the heros do that's what makes them heros, but the context they're framed against being a cute little girl makes them even more cuter. That's why tails feels smarter than eggman even though they're comparable, it's cause he's younger and cuter.
Marine if she was stuck in Silver's future.
>>539776209>And the audience STILL finds her annoying and cringe which means that Windfags were wrong about Sonic's character being appealing the whole timeNo, at that point, it'd just be clear that people just hate Amy on principle. It wouldn't matter what she acts like, they will project all sorts of stuff onto her anyway and hate her simply for being the Girl Sonic archetype. Loves Sonic too much and she's a psycho. Love Sonic too little and she's a girl boss.
>>539775160Silver was never the basis of a fandom-wide shipwar
>>539776209But isn't Tom already kinda Windnic-like? Are they just gonna make other characters Windy to compensate?
>>539775583There is no hedgehog circle. Its sonic and shadow, with amy slipping in as part of sonic's entourage. Silverfags are milking validation from one of the biggest disasters in video game history and have the gall to expect everyone else to fall in line. Fuck them.
>>539776369>hate her simply for being the Girl Sonic archetype.Rouge, Blaze, Tangle and Surge never had this problem and they're all r63 Sonic knockoffs
>>539776385Tom is being written out of the movies. His screentime in Movie 2 was reduced from Movie 1 and in Movie 3 he's just Sonic dad who nearly got killed by Shadow. I wouldn't be surprised if Movie 4 is where he gets reduced to a cameo character to remind people that Movienic is still a kid who lived with mommy and daddy.
>>539776601Silver was literally designed to stand next to Sonic and Shadow as a trio and get his own line of games next to theirs. That's why he was given the name "Silver" instead of keeping his original name Venice and changed from a mink to a hedgehog, because he was supposed to be popular enough to get his own spinoff games.
Movie 4 better start with sonic cast fucking off into the rings and ditching the humans entirely I'm so fucking sick of seeing real people in sonic. They're like fucking Sam in the transformers movie I DONT CARE ABOUT YOU I WANNA SEE SONIC DO A SPIN MOVE!Why the fuck do these Hollywood fuckers keep doing this shit man?
>>539776347So, she's a shitty ripoff of amy
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>>539776750We love the humans, non-fan.
>>539776790
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>>539776738They counted they're chickens before they hatched and the failure of 06 is the perfect monument for their sins against the franchise
>>539775539Yes because fags are telling them that he ruins characters around him for some reason, so it seems some of them just don't want to piss off others
>>539776738And it didn't work because the dumbfucks at sonic team were too focused on shit that didn't matter, like themes and cultural references, rather than making sure he was actually fun to play or had a compelling, sympathetic story arc or even had a personality that would be properly localized across regions.
>>539776738I wonder what kind of spinoff would Silver have had back then...
>>539776621Blaze isn't. Blaze is Sonic's opposite, which is fundamentally different from Amy who is Sonic's actual character but through a female lens. Rouge is Sonic-like because she's Knuckles' opposite, but no one except me sees Rouge that way primarily. Anyone else is just gonna see Rouge as the femme fatale archetype first and foremost. Surge is EVIL Girl Sonic. The Sonurge shippers here always describe the "EVIL" part as what interests them because they wanna see the "development" towards romance whereas Amy's introduction is "I LOVE SONIC" right off the bat. Tangle is Amy without that specific romance angle. So, she is every other aspect of Amy as an energetic, Sonic-like girl in general. Sure, she's attached to Whisper now, but that's still not the same as Amy and her own role of being romantically fixated on Sonic. So really, it's the love for Sonic in and of itself that causes controversy. Every other character trait Amy has is something anybody would like. Energetic, fun-loving, optimistic, compassionate... even short-tempered, impulsive, hot-headed, these are traits people like in any other character. But them onto the "love interest" character, and that changes everything. Being very nice and kind, or being short tempered and aggressive, will both be treated as extremely terrible because they're attached to the romantic love trope coloring it differently.
>>539777105
>>539776883>"she's heroic and brave but she's also a cute little girl"There's a reason she was already getting phased out before 06 launched
>>539776738That's why he's called a fraud, because he's not at the same level as both of them, which quite fucking high
>>539777182Sonic is a shit character and you're worse off the closer you are to him. Just look at what happened to Tails.
Just finished reading Bloodlines by Daniel Drazen! Wonderful fic.https://www.andrews.edu/~drazen/bloodl.txt Highly reccomend. I really like the OC, Sandy. One of my friends I was reading it with said that they reminded them of Shadow but better written. I love the romance between her and Bunnie. I like how the characters get time to shine but still ultimately need bailed out by Sonic. WIND, BABY, WIND.I wish there were more fanfictions like this today in terms of prose strength and quality. I hope to grow as a writer so I can make literary works as wonderful as this one.Rest in peace, Drazen.
>>539777131ST are retards but they knew Sonic and his friends were big draws for the console games. It would have been closer to ShadowTH than to Rush Adventure.
>>539777224Insane to think they're not supports still in other games but just in 06
>>539776734This is the truth that windtards refuse to accept. That version of the character only works as a mentor for someone else like tom is
>>539777518Wind works perfectly fine in SatAM and AoSTH.Game Sonic is supposed to be a 'mentor'/'inspiration' to Tails, Amy, and others anyways. He's an inspirational figure. A myth. He's like the wind!
>>539777516Part 2
>>539777258>She shares two character traits and a sex with Amy what a shameless knockoff Congrats you got me to reply.
>>539777182>So really, it's the love for Sonic in and of itself that causes controversy. And now you finally said it yourself. Her love for Sonic is the problem with the character
>>539777391>Pause for bourgeois legalities:lol->(c)1995, Daniel J. Drazen.
>To launch a successful IP, you must first bait the coomers...
>>539777920No, it's how people perceive it. Because at no point do any of these people actually respond to Amy in good faith, it's always warping her through a different lens just to hate on her.
>>539776750Better kill off eggman then, because him being the only human in the franchise was a retarded idea and always will be
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>>539778058I liked how Amy was in X (Japanese version). As far as I'm concerned they've been dating and fucking and sucking and fucking slurping since then. I kinda wish Amy was sillier in a clumsy way.
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>>539778223>Out of Character>HeadcanonMaybe in the cancelled non-canon spinoff series, Anon-kun.
>>539777821>>She shares two character traits and a sex with AmyOh and she also loves chao, which is something amy could easily do if cream didn't leech out her kindness
Silver isn't broken or starved he's just misunderstood. If you want to "fix" Silver, people need to understand him first; at that point people can make the decision if he's a bad character or not.Although on second thought people don't even understand Shadow either so maybe not lol
>>539778223Amy = Minnie = Mickey = Donald + GoofyI don't like X!Amy because X tries to focus way too much on the Donald side to make Amy a forced "Tsundere" archetype so she's always getting angry and insecure and temperamental and that's the "comedy" with her character there, which is precisely why a lot of people hated Amy in general, and it's just flat-out not how Amy is written in the adventure games or heroes or whatever. X!Amy even in Japanese gives way too much focus onto that side of her character, but the English dub amplified that to infinity and beyond to ruin whatever good faith the Japanese version still had.
>>539778248silver is not an uwu baby
>>539778324Everyone loves Chao. Shadow loves his Chao. Chao are lovable.>>539778307Amy is never going to want anyone else and Sonic is never going to tell anyone he loves them romantically so whatever they do is basically the relationship. That's it's whatever it is, they just both kind of exist with their feelings.
>>539777224the best part of this franchise is seeing sega get ass fucked for bad decisions
>>539778476I like that Amy was going to fucking splatter Chris stupid little head with her hammer though. That was cool.
>>539777657He's like someone who should’ve gotten killed off in the first act so the actual protagonist can shine
>>539768356In Mario and Sonic they're called Team Silver.>>539768718The fact that they're colored silver means that Silver is considered the leader. Team Heroes is blue like Sonic and Team Shadow is black/red like Shadow.
IDW fans should be ignored whenever they discuss Silver. Stop getting mad about it, it doesn't help. They like Uwuver, they will always like Uwuver. You can't bully them into hating Uwuver. They don't care about OOC. Spend your time doing something productive
>>539778476It is rather telling that one must resort to comparing Ms. Amy to a fusion of Mr. Donald and Mr. Goofy to describe her. You are correct that the anime adaptation accentuated her temperamental nature. One must wonder what the writers were supposed to do with her character as presented in the games.Without these traits, what is Ms. Amy? She is a girl who exists only to chase Mr. Sonic. Her friendships are unexplored and her goals are singular and uninteresting. She is an anchor to the wind, a narrative dead end.The writers of Mr. Sonic X simply gave her a recognizable personality archetype because the source material provided none. It is hardly a surprise that many of Ms. Amy's fans prefer this depiction. It is the only version of her that has any character at all, even if that character is a "forced tsundere". A flawed personality is still a personality, which is more than can be said for her game counterpart.
>>539778460Sonic fans prefer their personally constructed headcanon version of a character over the actual canon character made by ST.
>>539778751Uwuver exists because of unchecked fandom influence and ignorance. It is unironically dangerous to the characters to let fandom go unchecked.
>>539778825Wow, Imagine how Amy would've developed if sonic team didn't rip her traits for a doomed pedobait sidekick
>>539777224I want more versions of this meme SEGA in 2001 >Here's your new rival character Sonic, his name is Shadow and he's basically your dark incarnation with all of your abilities and Chaos powers!>Metal Sonic & Knuckles: WTF? I'M SONIC'S RIVAL?! WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR ME? >Don't worry Knuckles, you're going to be his new best friend from now on >and for you Metal, you're playing a big part in the sequel so just wait a little while longer SEGA in 2025>HERE'S SHADOW, HERE'S SHADOW, HERE'S SHADOW, GIBE MONEY >Metal Sonic & Knuckles: But what about us?!>LOL WHO CARES ABOUT YOU TWO? SHADOW SHADOW SHADOW
>>539778476>Amy = Minnie = Mickey = Donald + GoofyAre you saying that Amy is the entire Disney Fab Five (minus Pluto)? I don't understand the comparison.
>>539778871sonic fans have to literally finish sonic team's games for them to justify the asking price. Fuck sonic team.
>>539778825You guys don't know what a tsundere is. She very openly admits multiple times she likes sonic. Shes closer to a yandere and even that isn't right. Amy is just cute and violent. You know how you fix Amy? Keep her exactly like that but remove the anger or at least turn at most to mild annoyance. She should remain exactly as violent though but more like a "MOVE NIGGA!" level of anger. Quick and then forgotten
>>539772545That one's grammatically correct: it refers to a bill to keep the lights on.
>>539778825>It is hardly a surprise that many of Ms. Amy's fans prefer this depiction. That's just 2000s fans gaslighting again. Most people prefer Boom, IDW or Frontiers over X Amy.
Silver and Blaze baking an apple pie together in IDW #247 after Silver the Hedgehog (2036) where Silver tearfully says goodbye to Blaze after she seals Iblis inside herself again
>>539778871One must ask what "actual canon character" you are referring to. The one made by the current Sonic Team? It is rather generous to call them the same entity that once employed visionaries like Mr. Naoto Ohshima and Mr. Judy Totoya. The real talent has long since departed for greater pastures.To hold Mr. Iizuka's direction as some pure, untainted source is quite amusing. He is a producer, not a writer. His job is to manage a brand, not to create a world. To suggest his vision is the definitive one is laughable.This brings us to the core issue. What is the "actual canon" for these characters? Outside of Mr. Sonic, the Japanese cast are little more than poorly defined brand mascots. They have designs and abilities, but no consistent characterization. Fans construct "headcanons" because they are filling a void left by the writers.The old American lore could be shoddy, I will concede. But it provided a world with stakes and characters with purpose. The modern Japanese canon offers only vague themes and the ghost of talent that has long since left the company. There is no solid execution, merely the impression of it. Fans are not rejecting a rich canon. They are building one from the scraps they have been given.
>>539779095>new best friend from now onKnuckles was always supposed to be a supporting character and was never supposed to be popular.
>>539769090Silver and Blaze aren't polar opposites. They're two of a kind kindred spirits with the biggest difference between them being Blaze's greater maturity and sophistication.
>>539778980We should start by purging uwuver and potentialver fans simultaneously
>>539779375Tails x cream is such a shitty ship
>>539779436So Knuckles has the opposite problem of Silver.
>>539778871What is the canon and headcannon version of silver?
The Silver vs Future Sage fanon AU is no better than Uwuver
>>539779569Knuckles is gold found in a coal mine. Silver is a coal mine which was billed as a gold mine
>>539779552It's cute. They have an underexplored dynamic in canon and you can easily imagine cute interactions between the two. Ms. Cream is Girl Mr. Sonic so it isn't hard imagining the two getting along well. Although, I will concede, I also enjoy the pairing between Mr. Sonic and Ms. Cream. Ms. Cream is a very cute character and I appreciate all wholesome and cute artwork depicting her! ^^
>>539752294All Human men (like myself) are submissive to Tails.
>>539779592>CanonFuture trunks but stupider >FanonSonic but waaaaay gayer. Like sonic and tails had a love child
>>539778825>It is rather telling that one must resort to comparing Ms. Amy to a fusion of Mr. Donald and Mr. Goofy to describe her.That's how I think of SONIC, because that's what a cartoon mascot trickster whatever is and that's the mold Sonic is built from. Sonic is Cool Mickey, Mickey Mouse himself is Donald and Goofy combined. Donald is the mischievous, short-tempered prankster side incarnate, and Goofy is the clumsy, silly, carefree side incarnate. The Donald side is what causes chaos, the Goofy side is what thrives in chaos. Balance the two together properly, and you get someone who embodies chaos all around. Add "Cool", and you get Sonic the Hedgehog. Add "Girl" instead, and you get Amy Rose. Both are inherently silly cartoon mascots who love adventure, freedom and having fun. Donald is Sonic & Amy's rebellious side, Goofy is Sonic & Amy's carefree side. For Amy to be "Goofy", that's when the focus is on how whimsical or eccentric her love and stuff makes her appear but she herself is just a nice girl whose fun to be around. For Amy to be "Donald", that's when the focus is on her "bratty" side, her impulsive impatient temper that she shares with Sonic amplified by her own hot head. >Without these traits, what is Ms. Amy?An energetic, optimistic cheerleader who loves fortune telling and mystic things. She believes in fate, destiny and one-true-love, and is a very upbeat, optimistic and positive person through that faith. She follows the whims of her heart, as a very passionate and intense person. That passion is expressed through her sense of joy and happiness, which is how she feels when she's in love, and she lifts everyone else's spirits as well. She craves excitement and thrills in her life, and can be very impatient and impulsive as well since she trusts her intuition and feelings so much, that it can lead her to trouble. But she has undying faith that she can get out of it somehow, and this keeps her head held high.
>>539779626No it's not. Even if you think it's OOC there's still almost nothing as bad as the Uwuver character assassination.
>>539769090Silver isn't Light Sonic, Silver is inverse Shadow.
>>539779626well the future silver au depicts silver as badass and competent so not really
>>539779789>>539779872Bad or not, it still misrepresents what is offered in the games. Nta btw
>>539779872OOC is not a cure for OOC. Boom Shadow isn't an improvement in Archie Shadow.
>>539779515in theory yeah but in practice they're opposites because their inherent personality traits and story formula necessitates it.
<---- absolutely full of my cum
>>539780014>OOC is not a cure for OOCas far as I'm aware the AU is nothing but a general concept, there are no in-depth plot details or even character writing to go off of. how is Silver OOC?
>>539780140Tangle...
>>539780140Eggman...
Daddow...
>>539778751Those guys remind me of those Vietnamese Sonadow fans, they don't play the games, they don't even read IDW comics, they consume nothing but fanarts and ao3 fanfics. They're very content in their world of PURE headcanons and AUs
>>539779096No. Amy is Girl Sonic. Sonic is the Cool Mickey Mouse, and Amy is directly inspired by Minnie Mouse. Mickey Mouse is Donald + Goofy. Donald was created from Mickey's mischievous side, his "Bad" side", so that Mickey can look "good" by comparison. Goofy was created from Mickey's sillier side, his clumsy or ... "goofy" side, so that Mickey can look "smart" by comparison. The OG Mickey is both Donald and Goofy combined into one cartoon mascot. Donald and Goofy's creation was alongside an attempt to sanitize Mickey, making him the straight man. Sonic & Amy, at their core, are both the OG Mickey & Minnie. Thus, they both have the Donald side and the Goofy side blended together.Sonic's impatience, rebellious, attitude, short temper, that's Donald. Sonic's carefree, aloof, detached, somewhat eccentric and strange behavior, that's Goofy. Same applies to Amy. Sonic just has the lens of a "Cool guy" filtering it, while Amy's lens is the "Genki Girl" filter, but both are built from this same mold.
The fun thing about Cream is she's also pretty basic. You could, conceivably, pair her with anyone in the series and it could work out besides the most extreme cases.Sonic and Cream? Big bro and lil sis go hunting for adventureTails and Cream? Cream will be more than happy to help tails around in his workshop and grill him over what this or that does.Knuckles and Cream? Treasure hunt time!Shadow and Cream? You might actually get some emotion or growth out of Shadow. Rouge and Cream? Shit that can easily turn into a Robinhood deal. Omega and Cream? Cream is great with robots. Like impossibly good at dealing with them it's kind of weird how she does that. You can slot cream into anything and she just works.
>>539779095SEGA in 1993 >Hey Sonic, sorry about Madonna and all but here's we're going to give you this cute pink hedgehog girl who will follow you around and hug you >Also the Americans have a cool chipmunk girl for you to kiss in their new cartoons SEGA in 2003 >Hey Sonic, remember that cute pink hedgehog girl? We're going to make her absolutely crazy over you so you need to avoid her even harder >Also I heard it didn't work out with that chipmunk girl the Americans gave you but I'm sure they'll give you new girlfriends in no time SEGA in 2006 >Hey Sonic, remember Madonna? She's back but she's a princess that you're going to have to save over and over again and in the climax, you're going to die and she'll kiss you back to life! SEGA in 2013>Hey Sonic, we fucked up big time with that princess girl didn't we? Anyways there was a lawsuit over in the Americans so you won't be seeing your American girlfriends anymore for the foreseeable future>In fact, there will be no romance with you at all for the foreseeable future, we need to figure out what direction to take this franchise and the Americans are currently working on something >Oh yeah and we put that pink hedgehog girl on meds so she won't be bothering you anymore, I guess you two can be regular friends now if you like SEGA in 2025>Hey Sonic, you have a daughter with Hatsune Miku now >btw, you're bottoming to Shadow now.
>>539779870Shadow is Dark Sonic.The inverse of Dark is Light. By your own logic, Silver IS Light Sonic. The problem with Silver in 06 is that they focused too much on using "Inverse Shadow" to construct Light Sonic rather than properly building Silver from Sonic directly. It's like how I call Rouge another Girl Sonic because of being Nega-Knuckles, or Cream being Girl Tails because she's Kid Amy. It's like with Silver, they focused too much on using Shadow as the reference point, rather than Sonic himself, even though "Light Sonic" IS exactly what they intended.
>>539778980the reason why it's dangerous is because the writers interact with the fandom too much and let their biases cloud their perceptionit's mainly a product of our culture, they should be more like mangakas since they don't interact with fans online for the most part. that will remove the parasocial issue too since ian flynn has braindead fans who will defend him no matter what thanks to his podcast and discord server
>>539770926This is headcanon, but considering Blaze's planet is windwaker-levels of flooded and she also seems friendly to Big's fishing in CrossWorlds, I like to imagine the Sol Empire is big on seafood.Blaze: something exotic to fit royal tastes, yet cold. I vote yusheng (raw fish/veggie salad).Marine: she seems like she wouldn't mind being a messy eater. I can picture her eyes lighting up when she fishes a poor crab on her boat, having a tussle with it, then feasting on its succulent legs.
>>539779656Bad comparison; ST doesn't see the value of Knuckles outside of just being a supporting character, that's why they keep undercutting him.
>>539780367This is probably why cream was always around in the background being an announcer or a referee or going on Tokyo tours and shit. Next time we see her she'll be digging for dinosaur bones or scuba diving.
>>539780636post the REAL screenshot
>>539779626>Silvage fandomSilver is le badass man for da future who come to destroy le great evil rape murderer genocide Man>uwuver fandomSilver has panic attacks sucks penis and take cocks up his ass(this is very relatable to IDW audience)
Movie Sonic acting like a child is the direct result of Pat Casey reading and sharing fanon AUs before writing the second movie
>>539779721>Cheerleader.Mr. Sparky, that was never in any of the games. You're letting prerelease material corrupt your view of the games and the games' character.You also view Ms. Amy as a far more positive and optimistic character than she is in reality. Trying to jam a square peg through a circular hole to draw a parallel between Ms. Amy's 'passion' and Mr. Sonic's 'wind'.These attributes are not equivalent. Ms. Amy doubts herself. Ms. Amy has fears. Ms. Amy is afraid. She learns to grow past these things, sure, but so does Mr, Tails. She has much more in common with Mr. Tails insofar as being someone inspired by the wind but who is not of the wind herself than she does Mr. Sonic's unwavering free spirit. Her arc directly parallels Mr. Tails' throughout the first adventure game. Yes, her growth is propelled through her protection of others. But so is Mr. Tails'. Mr. Tails' defense of Station Square is directly comparable to Ms. Amy's defense of Birdie on a smaller scale. They both learn to stand up for themselves and protect others, much like how Mr. Sonic protected them. I've discussed this with you in the past, but the only time we see Ms. Amy tangibly 'uplift another character' in the Adventure era besides her rescue of Ms. Birdie was her reminding Mr. Shadow of Maria. Ms. Which I will concede was a good moment but far from a consistent theme of Amy's character. "Sonic Rush" and "Sonic Heroes" promptly threw it out the window.
>>539780395But Madonna is Amy after a species change.>Princess Elise?Totally different personality.>Madonna GarnetIn name only, is actually Topaz.
>>539780719>Silver is le badass man for da future who come to destroy le great evil rape murderer genocide ManI'm not sure what's wrong with this?
>>539780885That's a lot of patience, whoever made that
>>539779698Blaze has more in common with Trunks than Silver does.
Silver vs Future Sage people effectively replace Sage with Satam Robotnik and draw her as some over designed final fantasy character who only somewhat references the original Sage
>>539780796>Mr. Sparky, that was never in any of the games.Amy's personality is meant to be like a Cheerleader, period. She is an energetic "mood-maker" who is uplifting for everyone around her. That's why even that 06 script thing calls her a cheerleader or whatever, as well. >>539780796>You also view Ms. Amy as a far more positive and optimistic character than she is in reality. Trying to jam a square peg through a circular hole to draw a parallel between Ms. Amy's 'passion' and Mr. Sonic's 'wind'.Stop it. The way I describe Amy IS reality, as that's how the games actually describe and present her. Every single thing that you have said about Amy is nothing but your own personal biases spouting bad-faith disingenuous garbage masked as criticism. Period.
>>539780719>>539780810Silver isn't Guts, he's Future Trunks + tanabata.
>>539781060Thank you. People have been so poisoned by IDW Silver that they think any departure from that is automatically good
>>539780565IDW was written and drawn by DeviantArt fujos that thought Archie was IC and Rivals wasn't for Silver.
>>539780974Everything always comes back to US sonic...
>>539781236Booooo! Boooooooo!!!
Silver is Future Trunks
I hope they upload all the sonic character interactions in Japanese with accurate subs so we can see the REAL characterizations
>>539780810Anon said the Sliver × Sage fandom isn’t any better than the Uwuver fandom, and the replier here is calling him out, saying he’s wrong because the Uwuver fandom is actually much worse than the Silver × Sage fandom. Do you get it now?? Holy shit, why do I have to fucking explain this to you Are you fucking stuoid? Do you have no reading comprehension? Dumb fucking silverfag I swear to God
>>539781365Uuuuuuugh
>>539752294When I was a kid I thought Tails was a girl and had a crush on him (her).
>>539781060He's not even Trunks. He doesn't have anything in common with Trunks besides pragmatism.
>>539781338Sonic is cool!>>539781369The real characterizations have been dead for a long time, Japanese or not
>>539781443Kintobor wins against this guy anyways.
If Silver is trunks doesn't that mean he ends up with a former villain who's way too old for him
>>539781275they're poisoned by OOC western adaptations, this has been happening since sonic was conceived unfortunately. i wish the mandates were even fucking stricter so the writers whine like babies about it. even better if none of those adaptations even exist in the first place
>>539781551Yeah and her name is Sage. Also he fights evil body-swapped Sonic.
>>539781551Well he was trying to redeem Sage...
>>539780992 (me)maybe that was a bit too harsh, but every single word out of that cream larper's mouth whenever amy is mentioned just sounds so heavily biased against her even when they're supposedly saying things "nicely". Calling her an "Anchor"... that just isn't true in the slightest, AND YOU KNOW IT.
>>539780992Mr Sparky, you're so rude! I'm not arguing in bad faith or being disingenuous just because I have a different interpretation of a character than you, I'm arguing with deterrence to the content that's actually in the games. Do I go ahead and boldly claim that you're not arguing in good faith? No!It is quite telling that you must resort to calling me a liar. You say Ms. Amy is a "cheerleader" and an uplifting "mood-maker". That is a very sweet, if simplistic, way of putting it. But a cheerleader for whom, exactly? In the actual, existing, "Sonic the Hedgehog" video games, Ms. Amy's energetic displays are almost singularly focused on gaining the attention of Mr. Sonic. Earning his respect and time. Does that remind you of a certain two-tailed fox, hmm?Your understanding of the characters is blinded by your personal biases that make you ignore the obvious parallels between Tails and Amy and try to shoe horn in parallels between Sonic and Amy even when they make no sense at all.
I'm so glad I grew out of my sonic autist phase. My condolences to the rest of you.
>>539781390Using words like "le" and "da" implies you're making fun of the people who say that by purposely making them sound stupid. Do you have basic reading comprehension?
>>539781390That isn't remotely what the second Anon was implying
Tails and Tails' father
Silver x Sage lolidom.
>>539781874Lolidom, really? What's next?
Trunks my ass
If cream had a super form her fur would be white and her highlights would be red. I'll accept nothing else.
>>539752529Fang apparently loves fruits according to his Sonic the Fighters manual
>>539781390You need to be able to read in order to participate in conversations
>>539781757How do I do that?
>>539782004>Fang will just beat up people for foodKek
>>539781949Oh God they uwud trunks too...>>539782075What a fucking bum lol
>>539781937The next is shotadom.
>>539781949Why do disingenuous fans take a single moment and try to make it the entire character
>>539779698>>539781060>>539781365Silver is Silver. Trunks is Trunks. You faggots are so annoying
>>539781757you're still here anon
My Christmas wish this year. 2026 tour
>>539781060Sonic Team is distancing themselves from Dragon Ball and attaching themselves to comics so Silver is Cable now.
>>539782275He's not anywhere near Dad enough to be cable.
Teirusu
Silverfags will turn Silver into ANYTHING to be free of Uwuver. They'll turn him into fucking Ben 10 or Danny Phantom if they have to. I respect it.
>>539781749I'm sorry for how I sounded, but nothing about you can be interpreted as "good faith" when you're going out of your way to larp as Cream and speak as "politely" as her, and using phrases like "It is quite telling that..." Laying on "Mr" and "Ms" to everything and putting on that heavily polite facade gives you a saccharine vibe that feels extremely disingenuous. But all that aside, >>539781749>You say Ms. Amy is a "cheerleader" and an uplifting "mood-maker"BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE GAMES SAY. That is how Amy is always described, and it's how the Adventure games and Heroes present her in the games themselves. That is what Amy's character actually IS. If your argument boils down to trying to say that Sonic Team and the games themselves are "wrong" about Amy in general, how am I supposed to at all take that in good faith? >Does that remind you of a certain two-tailed fox, hmm?Amy is not Tails. Cream is not Sonic. Their personalities directly contrast each other. I have called Amy "Nega-Tails" in the past, to describe how heavily she contrasts Tails as a fellow "follower" of Sonic, but what Amy's own character is IS "GIRL SONIC". A "Girl" Sonic like Amy is effectively the polar opposite equivalent to the "Kid" Sonic sidekick. Tails wants to be like Sonic, Amy IS like Sonic. Tails was designed to contrast Sonic's traits in many ways, while the only point of contrast being Sonic & Amy is cool vs hot while every actual "trait" beneath is either the same or the male/female equivalent of itself. Cream as a "Tails" for "Amy" is an inverse of all this. Sonic is cool, so Tails is warm. Amy is warm, so Cream is cool. But just as Tails and Amy are polar opposites, the same applies to Sonic and Cream. Heck, Cream being described as "strictly disciplined" in official profiles mirrors Blaze being strictly disciplined as well, and Blaze is THE Nega-Sonic.
>>539782004I'm >>539772020, thanks. What's the source of that, though?I think this is a badly-translated joke on "fruit" (slot) machines.
>>539780685Here's the cutscene:https://youtu.be/k2cNIuzdNE4?si=M6YCGW68ieKl8WNv&t=117
>>539782436Which ben 10? Answer FUCKING carefully
>>539782631Oh shit calm down
>>539782436>Silverfags will turn Silver into ANYTHING to be free of Uwuver. They'll turn him into fucking Ben 10
>RougexKnucklesI sleep>RougexFaceless human manreal shit
>>539782547>USA edit
>>539782721b-be careful, anon ... words have power...
>>539782436i get that it can also be OOC but it's done out of spite for uwuver which makes me like it more. uwuver is disgusting
>sthg poster have zero reading comprehensionBruh
>>539780551>The problem with Silver in 06 is that they focused too much on using "Inverse Shadow" to construct Light Sonic rather than properly building Silver from Sonic directly.I was thinking about this a few days ago when I was going over how Tails was portrayed in Forces. All characters are sub-Sonic; a Sonic in their own way. Flawed but still enough of a mirror that they can stand beside the wind. Tails is Kid Sonic, the Robin. He should be fully capable of dealing with things with or without Sonic while keeping his flaws visible enough that the audience can tell he is not Sonic. When he showed fear upon Chaos 0 showing up, it was like seeing Sonic himself cower before him and no one would ever want that.How this pertains to Silver is that he is also meant to be a Sonic and Sonic 06 establishes him as a Sonic that needs another Sonic multiple times to get through the story. Now, this isn't any different from SÀ2 Sonic needing other characters. The key difference is Sonic is aware when he needs help and asks for it, where as it is thrust upon Silver. This leads to him being read as powerful but not capable of leading or making important decisions All of that just to say that the position of mentor that Blaze had should have been filled with Sonic. Silver is written like a character that needs to grow and show how similar and different he is to Sonic. But because he is a male hedgehog paired with someone that isn't one and the story itself does not really do enough to show growth, he comes across as a Tails in a hedgehog body
>>539782169explaining things in terms of other things is useful actually
>>539782436Ben 10 is really just a variant of a western version of Sonic at his core. Although, the core "idea" of Ben is purely being a KID Hero, how that gets interpreted since Day 1 is being inherently Sonic-like and that has never changed. But, it's always treated like a flaw, which is a paradox since Ben can't grow out of his core iconic character traits that are, again, shared with Sonic.And as a result, Ben is always learning the same lessons over and over, when by Omniverse he's basically reached peak Sonic status yet everything Sonic-like about him is still treated like he's being an immature kid that hasn't grown up yet.
>>539782790>words have powerExplain.
>>539783003No
*inhales*
>>539782482I'm sorry anon I don't have the original source, this was I pic I saved from a /v/ thread a while ago. I actually tired looking for a English scan of the sonic the fighter manual myself but I couldn't find one. I think you might be right in it being a mistranslated joke considering how poor Japanese to Enlish translations still were in the late 90s
>>539782945I thought Omniverse struck the balance of him being bratty and a mature hero. UAF is all over the place with it since the network wanted Ben to be like his kid self again after he matured in the first season of Alien Force.
>>539783156If I explain why I want to know, will you tell me what it's supposed to mean?
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>>539782471Mr. Sparky, you are being very, very rude! I am not "larping" as anyone, and it is quite telling that you have to make things up about me because you can't argue against what I'm actually saying. You have it all backwards and you're just being a big meanie about it!Calling Ms. Amy "GIRL SONIC" is the silliest thing I have ever heard. Mr. Sonic is the wind. He does what he wants because he loves adventure and freedom. Ms. Amy isn't like that at all! Everything she does is about getting Mr. Sonic to look at her. She wants to be like him to get his attention. Mr. Tails wants to be like him to get his respect. They are followers! That is why their stories in Sonic Adventure are the exact same: learning how to be brave on their own without Mr. Sonic there to save them.You have it all mixed up in your head. Ms. Amy is not the "polar opposite" of Mr. Tails. She is the girl version of him!Ms. Cream is the real Girl Sonic. She doesn't chase after anyone. When Dr. Eggman took her mother, she didn't wait for a hero. She went right out to fight for justice and save her Mamma all by herself. She is brave and confident from the very beginning. She loves adventure and helping her friends because it is the right thing to do, not because she wants a boy to like her. She fights for justice, and Mr. Sonic fights for freedom. They are counterparts.You are wrong, Mr. Sparky. You are wrong about Ms. Amy, you are wrong about Ms. Cream, and you are wrong about Mr. Sonic. It is so simple. Ms. Amy is Girl Tails. Ms. Cream is Girl Sonic. And you are just being stubborn because you know I'm right! Hmph!
Sonic Underground has THE BEST opening out of ALL the Sonic TV series INCLUDING Japanese Sonic X.NOTHING is on par with that level Kino.TRIPLETS BORN!!!!!
For me, it's Miijiu's Shiruba
