clockexplosive edition>Wiki for character guides and such (Under construction)https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/>Official linkhttps://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/>How do I get in?Click the link and register for the beta or ask in the bread for an invite code>TWO ECKS KAY OH>>539728936
Rape jinx fuck this hoe STOP JUMPING AWAY WHOREboing boing boing
Love jinx hug this sillyKEEP JUMPTING AT ME CUTIEboing boing boing
>>539937104It's range dependent to get the crumple, it has to hit at the tip. Many of his combo routes will autospace for this. The basic bitch one is point blank 5LMH 6S2 5MH S2S2 5H > ender of choice.
should i go back to strive? I don't know if i want to full time commit to this game. Sometimes is fun but most of the time is hyper cancer but i can see them ironing it out a bit
so close yet so far, incoming lose streak back to bronze
well damn the general is already dead
>>539944153cause the game sucks if you play it enoughpersonally i'm waiting for the release. Don't feel like grinding this
>>539944153the game is not fun
>>539944153I gave it a try but no character I really like yet
>>539944446yeah same, i have like 300-400 matches and i got bored of doing my darius bnbit's just way too fucking long and i can never drop it, it's even worse when i'm the one getting hit
it feels like certain characters are bullshit because the devs spent so damn long playtesting the handful of characters we have now as if we wouldn't get more.yasuo being yasuo, ekko being ekko, there's just so few characters available to balance some of them out by simply just being there.that's my little conspiracy theory
>>539945239it's funny because sometimes you hear people complaining:>the devs dont play their own gamebut then when they do well 2xko happens
>>539940887>20 matches laterthis has happened in every single game i have ever playedi get 1 win away from the highest rank then i spend hours/days actually getting to the highest rank while my blood pressure goes through the roof, the arteries in my neck hurt
This game is genuinely nen impact levels of kuso
>>539945239ekko and yasuo arent really characters that can get counterpicked.they just do everything.like if darius or blitzcrank were a problem they could add more zoners or whatever but with those two faggots its just them being too good at the core of the game, just like an akuma or a vergil.
>>539945327they should've had a mid-high online fg player in there to tell them when to stopevery character is so overtuned and sure it feels nice when you're the one doing the bullshit but you're just going to get bullshited next round
>>539945327they play their own game they're just tag fighter kusoge sickos. >>539945723i wouldn't go that far, bro. there's some absolute bullshit in this game but it's not nen levels yet>>539945841this. i really like the game but it feels out of touch with what riot should be striving for in a fighter for their brand: an entry-level fighting game, with depth but a wide, shallow enough pool to keep casuals invested and excited without being so full of bullshit that mvc3 oldheads run rampant. this may not be too much of a problem 2 years down the line if it lasts that long, but right now everything feels kind of absurd. fun when YOU'RE doing it, but it absolutely feels like a revolving door of waiting to get fucked on by that same bullshit
>>539945841overtuned bullshit is cool when it’s genuinely hard to execute and it doesn’t come up often, like zato unblockables or some optimal sf4 comboswhen it’s so toddler proof it becomes a core part of the character it’s just annoying and retarded
The characters are extremely tame for a tag-slop fighter you retards are out of your minds.They just made their tools stupid and made everything convert easily. Then they cranked the damage up. Thats deliberate, because that allows every moron to delete the other player sometimes.
>>539946384I would take this stupid, dumb, fat bear as a character over fucking ILLAOIoh right, league actually has a fucking fat bear as a character that would be 100% better than her too
>>539946532League has a ton of cool characters and they somehow put together the worst roster I’ve ever seen.
>>539946254If it doesn't come up often it's not overtuned.
juggernaut is way too overtuned
>>539946782Leroy’s cane in tekken 7 can only be used once per MATCH (best of 5 rounds) and it was still a retarded, overpowered move that had to be nerfed.
i have 500 matches and I still get messed up in my H and S2 buttons
should I just accept that I'm a boomer and play darius/braum with double down
>>539946805just backdash and call assist and there's literally nothing they can do
>>539947085If it can only be used once per match and still comes up every single match, I'd say it comes up extremely often. Xrd Zato on the other hand was a weak character and his unblockable setup was so unpractical that pro Zato players didn't really bother with it. Compare that to Johnny unblockables that would typically come up at least once per match, usually once per round if Johnny got to be on the offensive.
>>539946384>The characters are extremely tame for a tag-slop fighter you retards are out of your minds.yep
>>539947483that’s more of a semantics argument, to me something that doesn’t come up often can simply mean it doesn’t happen every roundlike the difference between a bnb and a difficult combo with several difficult links
How long did it take for you to learn consistent triple electrics with Vi?
niggas grindings electrics on ts instead of learning a real game
>>539948060My point was, if something is really overtuned, it means it's so powerful people will abuse it, no matter how difficult it might be. Those difficult sf4 combos weren't overtuned, because for the most part people concluded that doing less damaging, more consistent combos was better. If they had for example been ToD combos, people would have gone for them every single time. In that case they would have been overtuned.
Jinx and Yasuo are the faggot playstyle characters.
i still dont have a beta key
>>539946141that's kinda just how fighting games are, not just tag fightersas soon as the skill difference is just a little too much the better player will whoop the other guys ass so hard they're basically not playing the game anymore, street fighter just has enough players to generally match you up well, this game's matchmaking is kinda hit or miss as its so new and some people bring in previous experience and some none at all
>>539948508I dropped my link in the last thread, didn't get many responses maybe there's an invite left
>>539946141>sf niggas be like EVERY FIGHTING GAME GOTTA BE BABBY MODE SO I CAN PLAY ITcrybjigga
Where are all the cool/interesting league designs? And why is the roster so damn small? 7 years for not even 10 characters? Really nigga?>>539948857This is just 1v1 games in general. Once the skill gap is large enough you just lose almost every game to the other guy. The only ways to circumvent this are lowering the amount of "reads" needed to win so the worse player has a higher chance of actually upsetting the other guy (or any general luck/comeback factors) or making games team based so bad players don't feel overwhelmed.
what does your avatar look liketfw can't change the jacket colors to make my bazz cosplay more accurate
>>539950270you can though
>>539950270Skin tone too dark. If there is a knife/sword accessory try equipping that. I don't think she has headphones? Overall looks good.
>>539945841>they should've had a mid-high online fg player in thereWhat do you think a quarter of their devs are lmao, they didn't make this game for the mythical Timmy that starts crying when he gets hit
considering turning my yasuo/darius freestyle team into a yasuo/illaoi double assist team
>>539952456I honestly don't see myself outgrowing double down unless they nerf it to the ground. It makes the tag part very simple and lets you dump meter
>only have one super basic baby tier combo with each character>climb regardlessjust how many of the people who are playing right now are picking up a fighting game for the first time? it shouldn't be this free to get out of the lower ranks.
>>539953286The game also gives out a shit ton of points for winning, it’s insane. You need like two or three games won in a row to get out of Emerald 2, and losing barely sets you back. I enjoy playing that recent soccer game, Rematch even though I’m dogshit, and that game is fucking strict about ranking up. 5 games won in a row to get out of Bronze 3, and in a 5v5 game that’s a rough ask when solo queueing.
>>539953286combos are the least important part of any fg, even tag fighters. you can get ~40% with LMH launch MH special super which is more than enough. Blocking and getting the hit are the hard parts.
>>539946141>>539946254reading comprehension
>>539953878>I enjoy playing that recent soccer game, Rematch even though I’m dogshit, and that game is fucking strict about ranking upFG devs are obsessed with babying players to the point of hurting them. None of them have any idea what casuals want beyond the most cynical surface level perspective so you get retarded ranked systems that keep shooting people up to a point where they don't get even matches anymore. Rollback is finally a standard at least but this genre still has some of the worst online out there.
sex with brown tummies
How do you do the blue explosion on wakeup
>>539959354it was in the tutorials numbnutshold s1 or s2 during a standard, non roll, wakeup
i never saw diaphone so unhappy while playing a gamethis is telling
>>539960372i feel like i see this post in every fighting game thread
>>539954998It worked with SF6, they conned a bunch of casuals by gifting them Master, before giving a bone to the more dedicated player with the MR system.The main purpose of ranked in fighting games is to give purpose to players and make them feel good.
>>539950270kino
>>539960372Diaphone feels like he's experiencing >Sometimes is fun but most of the time is hyper cancerdescribred here >>539940593
>>539961023What makes you think that actually improved player retention and every other massively more popular competitive game going for even winrates and sticking most of their playerbase in shitter ranks is wrong? Like, if you wanna go by anecdotes, I remember posts by people on launch where they got lucky on placements and were wondering what the fuck was happening and what they were supposed to do because they were getting shit on and yet couldn't derank in any reasonable timeframe. It's not at all uncommon for people to hit master and immediately get demoralized because the way it works basically guarantees they'll get destroyed until they drop at least a hundred MR after promoting unless they were steamrolling through diamond.
I know I will get shit for this but I'm finding this game kinda boring and samey somehow, and I'm a fucking Granblue playerFeels like every touch leads into the same combos, the same enders, the same oki, the same mixups. Maybe it's just because it has so few characters and I've played it so much, maybe it's because the game is ''new'', maybe both
This is a very slow general and we may end up a discord fighter but I'd play the game regardless
>>539963491The general being slow does not mean the game will end up a discord fighter.I've posted this before, having a fast thread (or even just having a thread in the first place) on /v/ does not mean much. there are no valorant or csgo generals
>>539963180Yeah, I'm not sure what they could add to make it spicier. I think I liked the old Limit Strike mechanic, seemed like it would make for more of a unique per-touch ender. I definitely think the small roster is a big reason this is so prevalent, but I still love this game. The neutral decision making is so much more fun than other modern fighters imo.
>>539962593Nah i mean that if you wanna keep people hooked in the first months, it's probably best to keep them in with a new PNG every few days.Once you have to loyalize a fanbase you can get a non mickey system.
>>539963670It's just the daily doomers, you would have thought the casual lobbies that are filled, and the ranked lobbies that are filled would make them atleast a little bit more confident, but no the general is slow = Discord figther..
>>539963180Gotta get to high elo manPeople are running ToD sidekick jinx up there its the wild west
>>539964096People remember the match to match experience far more than they do the dopamine hit from a shiny PNG. You're thinking like an FG dev where you just take the most cynical view possible on casuals, don't look at what more successful games have done, and then wonder why casuals don't stick with the game even though keys got dangled in front of their face.
>>539964976>getting Teemo>not Tristana>even if we get Tristana she won't be shaped like her fanart
>>539937695is it even possible to have crossups in this game? im used to sf5 where basically every character had at least one aerial that would crossup. im playing braum in 2xko and whenever im jumping over someones head, none of my neutrals end up connecting or doing anything, and in return i just land harmlessly on the other side and they end up getting their turn/punishing me because i cant protect my landing
>>539963180this is why, despite being criticized by retards, the strive limited gatling system is great. It forces you to think about which normal to use cause every single one has a specific route with specific results.Want a safejump against a dp character? Guess i have to hit my 5K. Want a wallbreak? cS or 5H. Want oki? 2D. Did you mash jab as abare? You get a small combo but that's it, wanna more? Spend. Etc.In 2xko you just need one decent route and you can start it from everywhere all the time. No need to think
>get happy birthday>bait burst>it works>land double super on both charactersokay tag games are fun
>>539966485lmfao what a stupid fucking post my goodness.
>>539966179There's literally a universal crossup button in down heavy
>>539966179Ahri has a command normal that hits crossup pretty well, and I think I've seen a braum using one of his specials that his crossup, but I'm not sure if every character gets one
>>539966538There is literally no better feeling in fighting gamesWhen you happy birthday a motherfucker you know they are hopping up and down in their chair
Forcing myself to learn Ahri. What's a good teammate for her?
>>539966842prove me wrong
So, that thing about only feeling lag on your end was a fucking lie, huh?
>>539966538>>539967632That's a given. If Riot managed to make happy birthdays feel unsatisfying I'd have to kneel to them, it would have been impressive.The question is, is it worth all the other shit?
>always do low into launcher blockstring>they keep blocking highI don't even know how to do the Vi overhead yet because they keep letting go of down back
https://youtu.be/WstRtbbc_t4I'm eternally sad that I didn't get to play this game
how do you respond without sounding mad
>>539970235she needs it
Are Vi electrics even optimal? I swear there are BnBs more optimal
>>539969894what other tag game am i booting up rn nigga ?strive ?? stupid ahh question
>>539970235thank god they didnt let yas windwall do the ultimate-deleting shit it does in leagueFeels fucking good just blasting the little pussy hiding behind it
>>539967374wtf thanks bro why isnt it in the move list
>>539967374Not for Jinx, it's her divekick
>>539970235these poses are so fucking kino together
>>539971776Wow you're right its just inexplicably not included for every single characterwhatI actually have no idea.Thats so goofy lmao
Does Blitzcrank have steam in Sidekick?
sex
>>539975045well whatever its still in beta either way thank you i was getting annoyed feeling like there was no reason to jump over someone which felt so fundamental to fighting games
>>539975405why does she do nothing for my dick. none of the women in Tuko do things for my dick
Does the third Electric always have to be charged L rekka charged M rekka?
One thing I don't understand about the combo situation is how that it has been a constant and consistent point of feedback since alpha one but how the devs even explicitly addressed they understand and "will" fix it too.So how the fuck is it still like this? What are the chances it'll be addressed even relatively soon?
>>539976487they did mostly fix itin alpha 1 the combos were 2x longer for every character (except yasuo he's the same) and ahri had one that was like 8x longer where she looped her super 3 times.Pretty sure Yas will get something done to him but maybe they just want him to be the autistic freak champ nobody likes thats how he is in league too so idk maybe
Yas is fun but I don't have the hands to play him, maybe I should just play Darius with Blitz or something.
>>539976683>Pretty sure Yas will get something done to him but maybe they just want him to be the autistic freak champ nobody likes thats how he is in league too so idk maybegenuinely it's insane that riot created a champion that is so widely disliked but is extremely popular all the same
>>539975405seriously, nigga?that's what you call sex?please
Will they be able to churn out content for the game to support a f2p live service model?
NEW PATCH JUST DROPPED WTF BROS?
How long do I have to get assraped in casual matches for until I'm allowed to play with a rank system?
anyone got a spare code?
>>539976487QUIT THE GAMEITS NOT FOR YOU NIGGA
How is this general still up lolRito is cooked
>>539977232chromas, titles, and avatar gear to pad out battle passesskins every now and thencharacters once every (please god please please please) 2.5 or so months
>>539966485fag
>>539977232Even LoR got new skins and cards every month for like 4 years (but no advertising for some reason idk what the thought process was there)Riot will give it a shot yeah
>>539977761https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/beta/invite#code=e5338d0c-e1d8-4d55-99e7-9f53b791607chyg man
Why is Ekko so mogged?
i think a reasonable way to nerf jinx roundstart laser would just be to make it to where you need full electricity meter for it to get its full duration. it'll still do its damage otherwise, but it won't have its stupid 90 second long "okay hold still while my tag tries to mix you" bullshit. that way they don't need to warp the game's entire system around her.
>>539978489Thing is, there's often massive fucking pauses way more often hereThings like some OTG pickups like Vi's, there's a full second of doing nothing or a very slow startup pickup for themThe character switch on death has an extra pause on top of the animationSupers happen way more often than average and 99% of them are just plain damage supersThere are plenty of starters or assists that let you combo into shit that genuinely take over 35-45 frames to be done with their massive hitsuns
Well it's literally impossible to play juggernaut/sidekick since shit like ekko/yasuo assist are ultra broken.
ever stop to think that even if they pumped 1 character per month that's still only 23 characters after 11 years
>>539979745thanks king. haven't played riot games in over a decade. got an error message "beta not available in your region"so this is how I find out my old account was hacked by a chinese guy
>>539980165its literally fairshit costs 1 bar to dothats expensive as shit by tag fighter standards inflation is crazy
i inted my placements, 0-5,and i placed emerald 1so.. what happened to iron? bronze? silver? gold? plat?
>>539980613you played too well in casuals
>>539980484they better have like 5 characters ready to release all at once in a few months. just surprise us with releases
>>539980592>but other gamedon't care!
These days I was thinking about what I would 'fix' in this game, I thought a lot and came up with a ton of changes only to realize there were like 50 more mechanics that I simply forgot about then I was like holy fuck
>>539981326heres the answer bwo >>539978489
>>539976937You wouldn't get it, I've liked ahri 10x longer than your character has existed
>>539981602based waifuchadthere is no bond stronger than a man and his champyou face down every possible hell with your fav league champion in that game
>>539945794ThisUnironically with going up against Ekko or Yas or god forbid both at the same time is straight up unfun. You will straight up eat mix after mix and lose in neutral.
i honestly find vi more annoying than ekko. she and yasuo's backdash spam is just annoying as fuck.
>fought my first Jinx/Yasuo bullshit>both spend the entire fucking match running away and punishing you for chasing>jinx super bullshit into cross-up>every fucking match is nearly 99 seconds of this>timer scammed twiceaight fuck this game
it feels like neutral is just avoiding your opponent until you have assist up so you can do your fucked up mix-up minigame into win condition. when that fails, you just run away until your assist cooldown is back.it is wild that beyond platinum this is what every fucking match boils down too.
>>539984232>bro tag fighters are so fun>why didnt riot just fucking fire whatever retard was saying to make a tag fighter it could have been so good
>>539984419I think making it a tag fighter kinda fits with League, since it's a team game. I get the vision there. While I like the game, I'm also starting to see how fucked up and unfun it can be
>>539984419they specifically hired cl0ckwork to ruin the game lmao>>539984501big problem of its design is that its way more restricted than other tagslop games. both the way you use and play against assists is way more limited here.
>>539984232If they failed their mix why did you let them get away Gotta get your punish game on lock >>539984937> both the way you use and play against assists is way more limited here.You going to provide one single example why dude? That's just straight up falseDouble down letting you super tag alone is completely insane and would be turbo broken in any other tag game, imagine a world where you could just rip kamehamehas fullscreen and get mix out of it like2x Assist is ridiculous when combined with active tag it pisses on even the most disgusting blockstrings in mvc or dragonball.Freestyle letting you active tag twice was something you could never ever do in Power Rangers and as locked behind Cross combo in BBTAG. Which had like a 20 second CD but admittedly was like having both 2x assist and freestyle but double and better god I miss bbtag
>>539985234>Gotta get your punish game on lock part of the problem with that is when you can't really tell what the fuck is happening, you might blow resources trying to defend yourself. or say you burst after getting crossed up during the opponent's attempt to open you up. now they're mid or fullscreen and since all of THEIR cooldowns aren't up yet, they're just running away the entire time.it's fucking annoying.
Imagine a world in which bbfags didn't cancel bbtag. God I hate cancel culture.
>>539985234>If they failed their mix why did you let them get away >Gotta get your punish game on lockPlenty of mix covers itself here
>vi randomly goes through my burst>vi randomly goes through my burst>vi randomly goes through my burst>lose the setcool
"But they're all doing it" doesn't mean shit if tag fighters are all hated failures in an already fucking niche as shit genre for a reason
>>539986101ah yes the famously hated mvc2 mvc3 and dbfz
>>539984419>YES I LOVE THROW LOOPS, LET ME GO AND PLAY DIXLOOPS, THROW AND LOOP, MAN I JUST GOT THROWN AND HERE COMES ANOTHER THROW, WAIT WAIT, ANOTHER THROW?Your 1v1 throw loop nip game is dead, go away.
>fighting a juggernaut player>they backdash like fucking crazy>hit them one time after 45 seconds so they pop fury>watch them continue backdash spamming until their fury bar goes away>kill themokay???
Why is this disgusting miscegenation propaganda allowed on this board?
>>539986445>throwloopsi'd prefer strive gameplay minus the guard crush with riot games budget and cosmetics
>>539985385>part of the problem with that is when you can't really tell what the fuck is happeningThat is punish game broMost people just spam the one fucked up mixup they know even in mastersJust learn the right parry or mash moments for each one there's usually plenty. A lot of pressure in this game is fake as fuck even if theres also a lot of unblockable bullshit you just gotta know what's what >>539986101The dude said that 2xko was more toned down than other tag games.I was just making the point that actually its way more stupid than all the other ones except bbtag, shit's so bust
>>539986278>MvCBig because of Mahvel and an oddity>DBFZActually designed to let you ignore a fuck ton of tag fighter headaches in the first place
it's crazy i would play like 5 hour long sessions of sf6 and feel absolutely nothing but after just an hour or two of 2xko i feel satisfied and exhausted. it's like i went from getting fucked by someone with 0 dick game for hours on end to getting the sloppiest toppy of all time, cumming within a reasonable timeframe, and going home
>>539987235>>539986101you 1v1 retards got your time in the sun butYOU LOSTTAG FIGHTERS WONYOU'RE THE NICHE AS SHIT GENRE NOW HOW DOES IT FEEL NIGGA?
>>539987235mvci flopped like shit because it was shit though. "it's marvel" couldn't save it at a time when "marvel" was at its biggest.
>>539987681MvCi straight up didn't have a good chunk of its actual mahvel castDid you miss the whole fucking debacle about it you numbskull
>>539987764dudeur retardedthe only people who cared about playing shit like magneto or wolverine in mvc were MVC NIGGASthe MCU normalfags just saw iron man and clappedThe reason it flopped was cuz it spat in the face of mahvelfags and sucked off the MARVELfags
they need to buff duos
>>539986916>Just learn the right parry or mash moments for each one there's usually plenty. A lot of pressure in this game is fake as fuck even if theres also a lot of unblockable bullshit you just gotta know what's what I'm not saying it's impossible to deal with, it's just incredibly unfun
>>539987681>mvci flopped like shit because it was shit thoughIt sold extremely well early on.>>539987860>the MCU normalfags just saw iron man and clappedThe X-Men were still bigger than the rest of the Marvel combined in comics, they also had a dozen movies and weren't allowed inMvCI also looked like a WEG and wasted slots on characters nobody cared about even in the movies like Gamora
>Emerald rank lobby>fighting Masters and Grandmastersaight
>>539988178I had the opposite scenario today, my emerald bros don't block
>>539988121Let's not even overlook how aesthetically it looked like shit. I honestly thought it was actually kind of fun to play but the roster and shit art direction ruined it for me
>>539988306I got bodied by a Jinx/Ekko so bad it made it feel like I was a child. I think I know understand the Jinx hate, despite maining her for so long. Fuck Yasuo/Ekko/Jinx.But holy fuck I got outplayed hard, characters aside. Read like a fucking book
>>539988323>Let's not even overlook how aesthetically it looked like shit.That was the WEG part bwo
>>539988559I dunno what that acronym stands for, it's late and I'm too tired to google but yeah, whatever the fuck that means was part of the problem
>>539987991Meh maybe ive just got the tagfag brainSeeing an assist jump in isn't overwhelming for me anymore I can just predict whats going to happen once ive seen it a few times >>5399881211. Spiderman is bigger than x-men and then the rest of marvel combined twice over so idk what you mean2. Im not saying that the X-men were bad picks im just saying you can't be like "mvc3 only succeeded because it was marvel" when that was in fucking 2011 BEFORE avengers even came out.And then pretend that the avengers + spiderman somehow aren't marvel enough to pickup the way bigger normalfag audience in 2017 when marvel was fucking everywhere
>>539988485happened to me twice so far, both in duos where one person is clearly way better than their friend and that balances the team but I get fucking destroyed
The tentacle slam should not fucking go fullscreen it's a better zoning tool than anything else
>>539988861>non-stop Illaois>Ekko>YasuoI don't understand why they felt the need to add some of the most annoying characters to lane against in LoL to 2XKOt. former League player from like 12 years ago
Ults last so long for how gay they lookThe only one that I can stomach is Jinx at the moment and that's solely because how pretty the first part is, until it switches to a fucking low effort .jaypeg falling on screen and going through the ground
>>539988996mercifully you don't see them often unless you're in a juggernaut/sidekick situation
Do I really have to watch vi do her mash special and the super every single time they take sooooooooooooooo long
How's Illaoi/Jinx? Anyone tried this comp out yet?
game's so fun but so so exhausting to play
>>539989254the only thing I guess is that jinx likes to use double down and illaoi likes to use 2x assist, but both characters are great and I'm sure the team is good enough regardless of what fuse you pick (probably 2x assist)
>>539989389>Ornn gets in>His super straight up gives the other character fury without needing breakDon't hire me rito
>>539987561I actually feel entertained when playing 2xko. Something Duty Fighter Dix doesn't get done. I thought Dix bores me because of the lackluster roster, but it isactually just a dogshit game>>539937695I have a question on the Game Mechanics. Is there any form of Cross up protection? I'm trying to implement Cross ups with Tag ins + Freestyle, am I just getting outskilled or is there some period in which it doesn't matter in which direction they block?
>>539989486>Cross up protection?LolOnly 1 frame of it
30 winstreak on duos with my boy, lots of fun.
>>539989486>Is there any form of Cross up protection? I'm trying to implement Cross ups with Tag ins + Freestyle, am I just getting outskilled or is there some period in which it doesn't matter in which direction they block?Test your setups on yourself. You'd be surprised at how much crossup/autoblock there really is in this game. At least if you make things a true blockstring so you can't get parried.
>>539989553>friends and I are fighting game players>used to play League together forever>not a single one of them wants to try tukoi wish to know your joy
>>539990157Why not? They don't like tag fighters or something? That sucks man, for real. It's a blast with a partner.
>>539990157I tried with my friends but they can barely block so they got discouraged in actual combat. Doing dumb shit in training mode was fun for them though.
>>539990332They just play whatever they're playing currently>>539990642Yea that happened to some other friends of mine. It's hard to motivate them to keep trying in a tag fighter. I feel like I'd have an easier time onboarding them in a 1v1 game
>>539989553>>539990157my friend who is mainly a tekken and street fighter player dislikes tag games but at least he thinks 2xko is fun as a duo and fun in training mode, so we've been having fun in ranked duoswe got placed in emerald and it feels like it's a tad higher than we should be, but we still win a decent amount unless we run into someone really cracked, and we haven't demoted yet
The wakeup options are tranny enabler tier with resets and restandsThis is literally why Skullgirls never took off even amongst the tag fighter fans, just give me some basic ass fucking recovery
>The other guy drops his combo>Press a button as he falls down from his wack ass air recovery>After a second passes and nothing comes out, get counter hit by the other guyFor a hyper fast 2d tag fighter this game can be snail-like very often
>>539991376Does duo have a different ranking than Solo? I was gonna play ranked with my friend but don't want to demote in my solo ranking. Might make a smurf for duos if it's the same ranking.
>>539991826The game operates on a logic where every character is like MvC2 Juggernaut when it comes to start-ups and recoveries.
>>539991996Meanwhile, a random UMVC3 character
>>539991926I hadn't started by solo ranked yet so I'm not sure but I think they share ranking, but I also think there's some hidden mmr stuff going on so maybe you won't tank your points if you lose.
>>539991926>worrying about lp when it's going to get wiped at the end of the beta anyways
>>539976937
He hath spoken
>>539992659Why is Ekko put into the same box as yasuo?don't get me wrong his mixups are absurd but his buttons don't seem nearly as ignorant and priviliged as yasuo's
>>539992818I went into training mode with both of them yesterday to compare them and they actually have rather similar ranges.Ekko has deceptively long reach. His medium moves him forward a bit.
>>539992321Don't want to put my duo into sweaty MMR, either. Want to hit challenger and then I'll do whatever, but we had fun in casual because he's learning. Idk how it would be in ranked.
>>539992659ChrisG is a great player but man he is a CONSTANT whiner. He whined about mvc3 too, he just didn't put it out there like this.
God this game is so unresponsive>can't downback or upback on wakeup>everything has slow startup and slow recovery>random buffer limitations on dashes>schizoid special problems where the game straight up gives you specials on motions you didn't even press>double tapping parry gives you H buttons, no grace period>game sometimes straight up doesnt let you parry>cant even rebind menu and system controls right>very slow pre jump>worst side correction system in place in a fighting game ever released>speaking of, no side correction on jumps ever
>>539984232when I played gooberz neutral was literally just running away holding upback while throwing out ki blasts and assists until someone hitI think tag games are legitimately just shit from a butt
negative Penalty is Arcsys gift to fighting games yet everyone thinks walking into the corner is valid. Meter should be tied to the space on the screen you make.
>>539994146DBFZ's neutral was great before they added a bunch of obnoxious assists and EX moves. It was a lot of moving in and out of ranges while baiting superdash. If you took into the air superdash was much stronger but if you got good enough you could jab them out of their superdash midair. Ki blasts could be super dashed (usually on a read) so you couldn't just up back and ki blast, either. Assists are a footsie tool if you think about them as just an extension of your character. I love tag games so much.
I'm going to drop yasuo
>>539994635out of your tod right?
why does yasuo say REGGAETON
>>539992659and more to come soon, riot developers and balance team are some of the worst in the entire industry, just look at league
>>539993982Don't forget>Trying to burst can literally just give you s2 despite having used the built in macro
>>539994761no he says kricketune
>>539994779nigga actually thinks it's the same team working on both games lol
>Jump over Vi trying to lariat>she goes under me cleanly>after a hefty sum of frames, fall into her and got hit by her back
>>539995375she needs it
>>539995290let the retard just be angry man
>>539995290the philosophy is the sameyasuo is a privileged fucksome champions on LoL are privileged fucksLoR had privileged decks (literally self confessed from the devs themselves too)
>>539993982Everything body blocking everyone is really stupidDouble stupid when 2h buttons fail to anti air and people get to phase through you
>watch the best players in the world play>timer is at 119>someone is already eating a full comboi'm starting to suspect that this game is ass
>>539996405I agree, he is privileged and needs to be nerfed somewhat, but complaining about balance in the first week of a closed beta is crazyobviously the game will change, both big and smallchris g is bitchmade
>>539994779its actually gonna get worse because the 2XKO team are literally Cannon Brothers and friends it means they're gonna exclusively listen to their friends, aka other pro players like ChrisG, this game is gonna show you why actual game designers do not just design for pro players.
>>539995290>>539995595Dariusfaggot why do you samefag when you can't be bothered to change the syntaxWhy do you even vehemently reply to every single post in the general when you're incapable of discussing it
I keep eating random things over trying to figure out how to wake up here way more often than I do eating legit oki in other games
people shouldnt listen to chrisg's extreme opinions like "yasuo and ekko are busted" and "universal comeback mechanic stupid".
>>539997040He is not wrong tho, fury deals way too much damage and lasts way too long. And tournaments and high level play is yas/echo or you are trolling and throwing.
>>539997243yes I was being sarcastic. nothing he has said so far is crazy.
>the esl schizo is already starting to come up with boogeymenTrue infinite combo potential of the mentally ill
wyd
>>539996882meds nigga
my uncle is called dariusz
>tagslop game>Look inside>Typical degenerate tagshit that's only fun if you're the one doing it and incredibly fucking gay if you're on the receiving endTHAT'SMAHVELBAYBEEMaybe you retards shouldn't have celebrated every time they announced they hired some washed up marvel nigger to make the game if you didn't want marvel memberberries: the gameThe game should've been it's own thing.
>>540002452I'm the other poster there and I play some darius so maybe he's on to something
>>539992659This is what happens when you cant play neutral
I only see a future for this when they go all in on duos.Like maybe not mandatory, but build up more infrastructure for it.duo queues, maybe duo teams so you dont tank your rank when you play with another shitter friend.duos should certainly be considered as a thing for offline.
>>540007814there should definitely be a ranked mode for only duos vs other duosand individual ranks for everyone you play with
>>540003407literally not one person celebrated after learning it was gonna be tagshit made by out of touch boomers
whenever I hear the name darius I think of that autistic nigga with the melodic stims
>thought tekken tag tournament was way too fucking complex to get into>friend just sent me a key for this gameis it over for me?never played any other tag fighter than tekken tag
>>540009389Many """influencers""" did, because they too are out-of-touch boomers who like all the awful things about old fighters, or at least pretend to.
>>540010018tekken tag is like barely a tag game, you haven’t seen shit
https://old.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1nnkckt/that_sure_checks_out/the anon who said this game needs a hitbox rework might be onto something
that jinx was inspirational
>>539986278>DBFZThe only reason people played it was Dragonball >MVCThe only reason people played it was Marvel besides, MvC shit is loved by boomers and posers. EVO showed how fucking awful that game is beyond any reasonable doubt
>>539994779this is how you know this nigger is retarded and has never played league at a proficient level
>>539994779league is so balanced people call it boring because nothing is brokenyou're a double retard
>>540010018its a much dumber game than TTT2 because TTT2 is still tekken.this game is very dumb but you will have to engage with assist and tag mechanics that are actually more complex than in TTT2. Its not just "I tag in the other guy to do more damage".
>>540009389FGCtards didThey forgot the majority of people played dbfz and marvel for DBZ and marvel - not for tagslop
in lower elo, is it possible to lose large chunks of RP?i'm only losing -3 each time in platinum 3
>>539994428poro sad
>>540014494if you lose to people lower ranked it is possibleLike if an ironfag pulled up to you and smoked you you drop like 50
what happens when a low and high rank player team up for duos anyways?what will the matchmaking go for?
>>540003407I'm having fun though? There hasn't been a game like this in going on 10 years this shit SLAPSIf I wanted to play yet another 1v1slop snorefest theres dozens of options, so how is this game not it's own thing at this point in 2020+5 you fag? What an freak argument
>>540017345tougher opponents
>>539992818i've never seen an ekko whiff a button
>>539987601>dead>doa>doa>doa>vf1v1bros... its over...
>its mahvel but theres only like 2 install superswheres my swords of revealing light or morrigan mirror or zero clone loopingI need that shit bro in my veinsig ekko can almost do something like zero clone loops but nah not reallyillaoi's jail super should also be like 5x bigger that thing is WAY too honest
>>540017374>Tagtranny cope that his game is a shit MVC clone and he knows it
>>540003407>2018>see the teaser for the FG>get hyped, abandon lol and start playing FGs>years later they show the first footage of the game>dread and cope kicks in>learn about the devs>even more dread and cope
the issue is that fucking no one likes tagim pretty sure if i went around asking i'd first find someone who likes eating shit than playing tagthis game is not for me, that's fine, i don't like tagbut i want to hear from the tag players, what are their thoughts on itBUT THEY DON'T EXIST
>>539937695Leffen is singlehandedly propping up this game on Twitch. The guy is staking his entire livelihood on Riot.
1v1fags PLEASE continue crying>stop enjoying shit thats sick as hell NOOO STOPP COME BACK AND PLAY ROCK PAPER SCISSORS WITH MEim just doing my infinite blockstring on your bitch ass
All the secondaries playing this over a real fighting game, I want you to know that you are a cancerYou will quit once you get your free rank since the highest rank is achievable on a low win rate. Play a real game.
>>540003407The people playing this have never played a Marvel game before, anon.
We know you're afraid of good ol' fashioned NEUTRAL and FOOTSIES tagfag. You don't have to cry about it
>>540019979I think the game is tight ass fuck but they really should've made the characters more saucy.Ekko is the only cool one but even he couldve had like 1 more special move.Yasuo is almost cool but he needs like an install super that turns him into a demon or something or like a move where he throws his sword like a frisbee yk what im saying or even a move where he like cuts the entire screen that hits cross up yk something like that>>540020590fryou can tell because they act like getting ToD'd in fury is crazy My man Vergil was 1-tapping people off of incoming all DAY with nothing but his two hands and a couple of bars of meter
funny interaction
mvc is a such a shit mess of a game how can anybody like it?Lord knight is right again in hating this demented subgenre
>>540022432>Tachikawa
>>540021614>Yasuo is almost cool but he needs like an install super that turns him into a demon or somethingYeah like when captain america did it it was cool
>>540019770this looks doodoo
>>540023864It looks better than the slop we ended up getting.
>>540003407>Didn't like mahvel 3 when it came out >found skullgirls way to degenerate, played a set against a Peacock player and I wanted to grow Bamboo underneath my fingernails than endure another round against her zoning>Loved the ever lasting shit out of DBFZ throughout it's entire lifespan and still emjoy the game now>Found bbtag to be retarded >Liked mvci but it was dogshit visually >Find 2xko boring Even though I love fighting games, I don't think I'm much of a tagslop fan. Visuals aside, DBFZ just felt great to play for me. I guess that's because it leans more towards anime in terms of gameplay but every other tag I've played doesn't satisfy me much. Haven't tried Tokon yet I hope it's a game I like but it still seems a less exciting game than DBFZ from what I've seen
>>540023864t. Doesn't like fighting games We get it, you tagheads want a single player rhythm game or Simon says game that shows a fight in the background when you hit the buttons
the ranked is RIGGEDevery time i'm about to rank up to grandmaster i get an impossible to beat opponent
darius/braumdouble down or 2x assist bros?
>>540024956>>540022578>>540021350Boo niggayou wake up in the dead of night and this is at the foot of your bed pussy ass bitch and you piss your baby blue pyjama pants from fright>AIIIEE WHY CANT I WALK BACKWARDS AIIEE WHY CANT I NEUTRALcry nigga hold this blockwhat new 1v1 game is coming out btw oh yeah NOTHING
>>5400255102x assist to help them in neutral seems okayI dont think their supers have that much synergy but I could be wrong
>>540024956sorry but current games suck, Dix is shit, Kekken is shit. The only good game fighting game is a anime kusoge called strive, we didn't get a solid tag fighter for years. So excuse me for enjoying a fighting game that isn't pure dogshit.
>>540025829>you wake up in the dead of night and this is at the foot of your bed pussy ass bitchTaghaters get Morrigan and her clone at the foot of their bed? Truly gigachads.
>>540010018If learning two different characters was the issue then this game is much easier because the characters are far simpler. If engaging with the tag mechanics was the issue then this game will absolutely buck break you.
i don't feel like i'm good even when i'm crushing assi just dash in with my medium starter and hope it hits and it works most of the time
kookily ass game
2xko currently has 6.7k viewers on twitchthe first stream is leffen with 500, second is 300, third is 150tenth is at 20 viewers, obviously those past 10th are <20 viewersthe top 10 streams summed are less than 1300 viewers... just how many 1-2 viewer streams for 2xko are out there to make up the difference wtf
who named this gametoo ex kay ohnaming it something horrible like "League Brawl" would have at least make you remember the name and people would know what you're talking about
>>540023864Ahri literally looks better than she does in 2XKUSO
>>540024906they need to fucking release dbfz 2 i dont give a shit
>>540028159>when you're playing 2XKO and you KO the two enemy characters for the 2XKO
>>540025829Mortal Kombat ass fighting system LMAOOOOOO
>>539947380>darius/braumnow there's a ram ranch duo
>>540029031holy shit anon, you've cracked the code
>>539947380Braum Blitz is even more annoying
>>540028159Is it worse than Project L?
my name in-game is the same as the name I made to farm (You)s in League of Legends many years ago and I don't know how to change it.
>>540031229Pay up goy
When you gots the reads on some guy and ur just blasting him outta the air off cooldown man Im fucking spanking these emerald nerds
>>540028008northernlion had just started streaming when you checked so twitch was probably counting his numbers but hadn't updated to actually show his stream in the directory
>Ekko shouts break on a move>The said move isn't the break moveWho funded this shit
2xko is shit but soive t8 and dix are all way worse so i'll settle for it
>Do combos that end in certain enders and knockdowns as Jinx because people said that's how you set up the monkey>They can just tech towards you and punish it before it's even active>Even the pros are going for those endersWhat am I missing
>>540031981its a reference to his move in league of legends "chrono break" where he teleports backwards and makes a big circle of damage shout out to my nigga big lincoln aka big L
>>540031229Fuck off ImThem
>>540032139if they're always teching towards u, you can just throw themand jinx has some of the craziest throw confirms especially with ekko she can do like 60% off of one but even alone she does better than most of the castThey should have to back roll on principle, letting you set monkey. if you let them roll in you're inting
>>540031229you can change it on the riotgames website
>>540010486>the hitbox vs dat hurtbox christ
>>540031229https://account.riotgames.com/
K/da skin bundle where
>>540005838Didn't chrisg play a random sf6 tourney and beat punk, newfags are really reaching hard aren't they
>>540032359Not on combos that end in air tech
>>540033109>SF6>NeutralHearty guffaw.
>>540033109Wasn't that the for fun modern only tournament where chrisg barely won despite actually maining modern and the best character in the game versus punk who had practiced it for like two days and wasn't playing his main? I don't remember anyone thinking that was an impressive showing by chrisg. I think even he was upset by it, IIRC.
>>540033393Oh like after rocket super?yeah Idk either I feel like the traps never do much after that but they do make people pretty predictable, they always try to just get as close as possibleusually I just set monkey and instantly do the anti air minigun and try to run under them to fuck with stuff
>>540032139i had the pleasure of getting fucked by sonicfox's barbed furry cock as an example for you
>>540034020Yeah I just have no idea what to do after the rocket super for example, or any similar knockdownsFeels extremely scrambly in a way that's not even skewed that much in your favor yet the pros still go for it >>540034345Again, it was mostly about air tech ender combos because you can't chase the throws like that, I understand the ground onesThanks for the webm though
I wish they went for anime fighter style backdashes instead of this, they would still be very potent but not as stupid and boring.
>>540034535i love ending in rocket superi don't understand what you mean by them being able to tech at you,because are you not insanely plus after it?
>>540035006Well you don't get any real oki from it and setting up the monkey can be straight up dangerous from it yesSeems like forgoing the damage to end it on a j.[H] if it's not going to kill is always better
am i the only LoL player that realizes how dogshit all of these characters are? It’s like they are all designed by someone who only read the in-shop description of the champion. just little things like blitz using the wrong arm for his “E” which is supposed to be the followup after hooking them. ahri shoots her E as her level 3 ulti, but yasuo level 3 ulti is some made up shit where he cuts the moon, yasuo has literally nothing to do with the moon. blitz at least has his ulti as a super and maybe you can consider yasuo level 2 as his knockup->ulti combo. Blitz has no W, vi has no E or R, and her W is an attack not a shield. ahri Q and E are supers, ekko literally just spams Q like its fucking urf.literally every single character is so far removed from their LoL counterpart they are verging on “function” territory. they add in so much extra made up shit to every champion that they dont resemble their lol counterpart at all, these champions are just soulless functions with league skins on top, vi is identical to monk from dnf, blitzcrank is just zangtempkin, and yasuo is clearly just a character one of the devs wants to play, so he hamfists all these OP mechanics into the kit, and now yasuo is nothing like how he is in lol anymore. when the fuck does yasuo enter a stance? maybe the armor pen after ulti is a stance? kill uourself riot devs
>>540035246i mean, how is it dangerous at all?you have time plenty of time to setup monkey or trap, no?
>>540035360>when the fuck does yasuo enter a stance?After hitting two Qs.
>>540035360vi not having her R is insane since that's the reason why you even pick her in leaguefor me the biggest offender is jinx being a slow zoner and not a hyperactive character
>>540035360Vi has her E after her S1 super QShe does an explosion out of the guy she hits with it and it can tag the assist which is pretty funny>ekko spams his Q, ahri Q is a super?? thats how fireballs work in fighting games yeahIf they just gave them boomerangs thats stupid active the whole time it'd be gay as hell, supers for that level of power is fineYasuo is definitely spamming way too much Iaido thoughI fucking hate iaido that shit is so corny and so overrated and so lame. Yas was cool when he just swung his katana like a person
>>540035360>ahri shoots her E as her level 3 ultiNo, she shoots her E as a way to start her combo. It's not the only thing that happens>but yasuo level 3 ulti is some made up shit where he cuts the moon, yasuo has literally nothing to do with the moon.Nigger are you serious the moon is for the visuals he straight up just does his LoL ult in a fancy background is all>Blitz has no WHis steam gauge is literally his W>vi has no E or RHer E is a generic punch attackHe R is literally in nigger she both has the exact same air slam she can do normally and in her ult animation>and her W is an attack not a shieldShe has the shield separately >ahri Q and E are supersI'm going to be honest her not having her ball outsidew of her super is really wack too> ekko literally just spams Q like its fucking urf.To be fair Ekko's projectile being stupidly strong has been a legacy thing for a long time, that shit is cracked and way stronger than what most mages get in LoL just like how it's straight up the strongest fireball here too.
>>540035946>If they just gave them boomerangs thats stupid active the whole time it'd be gay as hell, supers for that level of power is fineEkko gets to keep his fireball on screen for a long timeAhri's boomerang-ball is her most defining thing it should've been a thing as part of her main kit
watch teemo have a special where he blinds you aka inverts your movement inputs
>>540033830>actually maining modernDid he, I didn't see any of his sf6 content and assumed it was the same prep time, I know he played and won some tourneys for previous sf games
>>540035972>Nigger are you serious the moon is for the visuals he straight up just does his LoL ult in a fancy background is allNTA and I think it's a very minor nitpick, but there are characters associated with the moon in League and Yasuo isn't one of them, so it is a bit out of place. It feels like something they ripped out of a generic anime instead of anything that relates to the character.
>>540035806MehThat's literally exactly how Jinx is in normal league.99% of the time you play like a slow mega pussy ten miles away and then you randomly get a chain kill off of a tower falling or hitting a super long range ulti from out of the fight.They kinda captured how you want to play super far but when you get an opportunity like a W hit or an assist locks them down then you can go in and smix on people, I think it's dope.>>540036089The stuff you can do with the ball where you jump over it and it comes back feels a lot like how you could redirect the thing with dashes in normal leagueBut yeah I mean I think Ahri would probably have been better as a Zoner rather than a weird rushdown. It's definitely odd and she feels like she doesnt really have a good identity. Not like there's an abundance of zoners either but maybe it was a future proof kinda thing.
>>540035946her “super q” is something that doesnt exist in lol so i think its retarded to count her “super e” as her normal E in lol but fair enough.ekko Q should be a boomerang like his ult, as it stands its some random bullshit that he can smack around with his bat and rape the screen with. sure i guess you can call that a reference to his W but the functionality they added BEYOND what his W does, is soulless and retarded. his kit barely resembles how ekko plays. if i like a character from lol then playing them should evoke the same feeling as playing them in lol, or at least give me referential memes to point out like in dbfz. each character in dbfz has like 2 minutes worth of poses and animations that directly match the original dragon ball. at least in HXH kuso-impact the characters were accurate despite the game being shit. netero only uses the golden statue as an ulti, but characters hisoka and leorio use their powers more often and also directly match how they use them in the anime. 2xko can at least attempt some IP congruency instead of making up 90% of every champs kit
>>540036510>her “super q” is something that doesnt exist in lol so i think its retarded to count her “super e” as her normal E in lol>but the functionality they added BEYOND what his W does, is soulless and retardedhow is this retard typingwhat do you meanshould every character only have 3 specials and 1 super because you cant give them something they dont have in normal leaguewhat
>>540035360Look at their moba kits and tell me honestly that it would be cool to have that 1 for 1 in this game, ofc they are gonna take some liberties and add some stuff, or else their moba kit translated into a figthing game would be barebones, like wtf are you even saying
they should only have one normal, toobecause it's not like there are multiple autoattacksit doesn't FEEL like i'm autoattacking
>>540035972why would blitz w be a resource based install? thats not what it does in league. it gives him movement speed. when does he spin his arm around when he presses W? The steam mechanic seems more fitting for a champ like rumble or something. it has nothing to do with how blitz functions in lol. >captcha Mr. Vag
>>540037096>>540036916
>>540036305ermmm but thats not what it does in league its supposed to make you miss all your normals for 2 seconds
>>540036771well yeah you should look at dbfz for how to port characters from another genre well to FG. just port more animations directly, and unique parts of champions in lol should translate somehow to their kit. vi is lacking her most iconic move. ahri’s most iconic move is locked behind a super. etc.what you definitely dont do is add completely random madeup bullshit like “yasuo fights like johnny!” and “blitzcrank grabs like potempkin!” it feels soulless and retarded like the devs dont really have experience with lol. please dont call me the N word guys
>>540036406Ahri rush down fits because you're always fishing for ult charm, and ult is great for mobility, I think they nailed her pretty well
>>540037627nigger
No Lux no Bux.
>>540036775there is more to champions than just their 4 skills and auto attack. crit animations like blitz double fist bonking the enemy. Yasuo pulling out his flute or whatever. Passives like ahri self healing or ekko 3 hits. you can add extra things to an extent, but there becomes a point where you are removing the identity of the character in favor of functionality which is retarded. they can make these champions feel more accurate to their identity without making it identical to their moba counterpart. it should be closer im not saying it should be identical
>>540037627What is this ragebait? League character kits are barebones when you have 4 abilites, ofc they are gonna add more stuff to make it more intresting
>>540033109chris g is a mouthy pub stomper who never wins tournies outside of locals. the last time he was actually relevant was dbzf for a few months before dropping off. nigga's reaching 40 without ever beating a japanese god in a serious tourney
>>540037309you have to admit tho, rumble passive is more accurate to the steam gauge compared to how blitz W works right? the only difference is that in 2xko blitz has to charge up his heat with 1 move rather than building it passively. if they added rumble and gave him a heat meter that charged with 1 move rather than passively, i’d still think that is at least better than just completely inventing a resource to give to blitzcrank
>>540038339>>540038092you're autisticAt some point you need to add new mechanics because the character is going to be paper mache without themIf you just removed blitz steam and replaced it with a move that lets him runs faster that shit would be boringthe guy wouldn't fucking do anything even if he's more accurate to league guess whatthe league version is boring without any items and without any levels you couldnt play him in a 1v1 game for 30 hours without going into a coma>give ekko a three hit passiveok ur trollingnobody in lolg even thinks 3 hit passives define anything
>>540038092Brotha listen to yourself, flute, 3 hit, healing, NOTHING of what you have said makes or breaks these characters, you actually have to be ragebaiting.The characters have been translated good from League to 2xko, with how they feel and play,
>>540038685im autistic but im right. everyone in this thread has a problem with at least some aspects of these characters. same thing irl. everyone i know has a lukewarm opinion on the game cuz of the lack of characters. im not even getting started on the fact that this game took 10 years to release and theres only 10 characters. that is pathetic, with all that time to develop this roster it should be refined to perfection, but its slop. nah, it wouldnt be boring is blitz didnt have the steam gauge. thats a retarded fallacy, with that logic every character should just have a madeup resource bar cuz its le fun. no bro, its goyslop cancer and you should open your eyes.
>>540038339Blitz when charged gives you an armor bear grab that let's you charge in a little easier just like what he wants to do with W into eThis shit about 2xk0 ports is going to be exactly like the rework discussions of characters spazzing out that they aren't exactly the same aren't they
>>540038092All the characters do what they are known for doing in League moveset wise, and that is all that matters, the only character that is a little undercooked is Vi
>>540038992Ok. That's fair bro. just be honest then.You would rather play "league 1v1" where you picked your champ and then 1v1ed a guy in aram with no minions no items no towers no nothing.Just because its more true to league and theres more characters right?
>>540038952im not really here to give solutions, just pointing out the obvious flaws within the roster and character design. maybe actually make yasuo say sor ye get on when he ults idk. maybe make ahri down special into 3 projectiles that surround her. theres a lot of routes you can take with designing these characters that don’t involve turning them into derivative fighting game functions like “grappler” and “iaido samurai”theres a lot of ways to improve the roster, i wouldnt be mad about blitz having extra made up bullshit if they also made his kit more faithful to the game still. like him swinging around saying weeee is only retarded because they got the E wrong and the W is completely missing.
>>540039031Reworks are fundamentally different because they delete the original champion and remove your ability to play as them. In that case it's reasonable to spazz out because something you enjoy is being taken away, unlike here where nothing is actually being lost.
>>540038992>Same thing irl You know nobody irl.>10 years to release I know who you areGo back to your throwloop games, nip loving monkey
>>540039112Vi is pretty accurate to her gameplay loop, she Qs in and starts punching you in the face
>>540039112braum doesnt, illaoi is pretty accurate since he hops in with W then her tentacle passive slaps you. thats a good rendition of “how she plays on lol” directly relating to “how she plays in 2xko” ekko, ahri, yasuo, those 3 characters are doing more things they arent known for than what they are known for. they really missed badly with those piece of shit champs
>>540039145nah i like fighting games so im gonna play this for awhile. im emerald 3 right now trying to get master. i have like 10k hours in lol and 10k hours in multiple different fighting games. i should be the primary demographic for this game. i enjoy the concept if 2xko, but the fact they hired braindead lazy retard “rising thunder” devs, ruined the game. its cheap, looks like shit, plays like cancer, what else is there to say? the game sucks
Saar please trust me I have infinite time in lol and fighting games
>>540039376yeah i actually do have friends IRL stop projecting. thats extremely normal and i’m surprised you’d doubt that but okay fair enough. no rebuttal for the fact that i pointed out in this very thread people have qualms with certain aspects of certain champions. im valid
>>540039328They are faithful tho, like everything you have listed are like minor things that NOBODY cares about but you. If Blitz could not Q-W-E-R, or some other version, you would have a pointIf Yasuo could not Q-W-E-R or some other version, you would have a pointetcMost if not all the characters do what they can and are known for in League, and that has OBJECTIVELY been translated into 2XKO, everything you are saying is just minor things you would want, nothing that makes are breaks the characters
Stop trying to argue with a willful autist. It'll only make you more retarded. Just ignore them like in real life.
>>540039814nice, youre done arguing and just resorting to ragebait because you have 0 rebuttal other than “no dude like it’s totally fine that the game is shit. theres no other choice than to make every champion a soulless FG function” which is fair.
>>540036347Yeah, he's been playing modern pretty much since release, I believe. People were even saying it was unfair for him to be in the tournament until Punk still almost beat him while dropping combos left and right. I think he might have been filling for someone but don't quote me on that, I could be thinking of a different tournament entirely.
>>540040012wrong, this is the worst fighting game with ported characters ive ever played. the power rangers tag fighter was even more accurate lol. and retards made that game as well. your opinion just differs from mine which is okay, but my opinion is more aligned with objective reality. you are simply defending the game saying “its good enough” which is okay, for you its good enough and thats fine. but if you actually care about LoL and have any ability to understand game design, you understand how blatantly retarded these devs are by adding random mechanics into these champs kit.Like i said random mechanics are fine if they more faithfully ported these characters. instead of taking away blitz W they should have blitz W + the steam gauge and it would be fine. even then, there are still issues with how much the character revolves around mechanics by the devs vs mechanics ported from lol. yasuo mainly revolves around stances which dont exist in lol, making his gameplay feel more dissonant. youre just playing a samurai not yasuo. you think they objectively ported these characters well but thats objectively false, since each champion is lacking certain portions of their kit. it doesnt have to be 1:1 like youre implying my argument states. just more faithful than it already is.
Somebody is having a melty
>>540040707>You think they objectively ported these characters well but thats objectively false, since each champion is lacking certain portions of their kitLike what? 3 hit passive? Blitz W? these are not what DEFINES these characters, and you know it yourself, since you have not said what these characters are lacking that makes this so dedetrimental to their character, all you have are little qualms about their kits, and like i have said, nothing that makes or breaks the characters
>>540041052please dont be mean to me. im posting my genuine opinions online for the first time and its really hard for me
>>540039376>10 years to releaseIt has though? What's with the obsessive protection over this dev teams incompetence? Do you know them personally and that's why this fact doesn't count? Even now they keep trying to say it's a beta to avoid any criticism.
>>540040707bro its a fighting game, why do you think the characters should have moba kits?
>>540041584blitz E uses the wrong arm, they really should just make him use the correct arm. in dbfz theres constantly freeze frames of special moves that look directly traced over from the manga. thats all im asking for. for example:lets say Yasuo’s retarded crossup slash is supposed to be his E. when he uses it, he moves across the stage with a flat footed stance, if they instead used his E stance directly from LoL, where his ankles are pointed upwards, i would be more happy with that move being called “yasuo e” same thing with yasuo R, if he said sor ye get on for his level 2, then i would he more happy accepting it as a direct port from LoL. these are small animations that literally have no impact on gameplay and theres no reason they should have been changed from LoL. its like goku yelling “DESTRUCTION BEAM” when he uses kamehameha. thats obviously retarded and inaccurate, but you’d say “well hes using the blue beam from the show so its accurate”
>>540042095>blitz E uses the wrong armdoesn't it switch based on which side he is on? that's how it usually is with fighting game animations to keep the animations consistent
>>540041819this is what i dont get. i dont even hate the game. i play it and enjoy it moderately. but the general gamer population these days thinks that if they are playing a game they need to justify that it has 0 flaws. like come the fuck on nigga, rising thunder was ass. these devs are retards. they probably didnt play RT because these ppl dont play games at all. they post more than they play.
So how do you wake up without a roll and start blocking low immediately
>>540042225thats fair i am retarded for that. ill have to log on and test the animations myself to see. but if they switch animations based on the side, his blitz Q pull would come from the wrong arm.
>>540042260The problem is they didn't hire any real idea guy for the dev team. Just hired their friends and have been trying their best and can't admit they were in over their head. Instead of developing some new characters wouldn't be surprised if some of the people defending the game right now is in fact the dev team.
>>540041819>Even now they keep trying to say it's a beta to avoid any criticismWhat criticism are they avoiding? when you see all the bugs, and how some controllers are not even working, why would you not think this is a beta? >It has though? What's with the obsessive protection over this dev teams incompetence?Because it's not used fairly, the game has been in deveoplemt for 10 years that is correct, but it had been a 1v1 game for most of it's time, and only from 2021 we knew it was a 2v2 game, if it was a 2v2 game from the start and they had been working on it for 10 years then i would agree with you
>>540042764The amount of cope is off the charts. This has to be someone on the dev team or one of their friends.
>>540039343The thing I meant about reworks and the spazzout about 2xk0 is that riot aims to keep the identity of the character intact when they rework a character or port a character over to a different game, mechanically they're not going to be the exact same since different mediums (and reworks) require different things. Runeterra had to condense a characters whole kit and identity into one card, and 2xk0 needed to change the characters so that they can function in a fighting game, they gave Darius a fireball for example because they got feedback from testers about how little options he had at full screen or the like.
Shoulda just hired Clayton to make the game desu. There I said it. Let the hate flow, but we all know it's true.
>>540043368>riot aims to keep the identity of the character intactNo they fucking don't. I think most of 2xKO ports are pretty good, but League itself has a terrible track record of completely obliterating old characters and replacing them with something that in no way resembles the original, for example Viktor or Sion.
>>540043303lol, am i wrong tho? Like do you know something i don't?
>>540043756Obviously you are wrong schizo. You don't get to keep hitting a reset button and then say nothing counts before hand when you are being paid for it. Own to your failures you're not a child.
>>540043368>riot aims to keep the identity of the character intact when they rework a characterFUCKING KEKNiggas are trying so hard to protect the cannon bros after they fleeced riot for money
>>540043636Kind of surprising they didn't when I think about it. I mean, he would have ticked diversity boxes for homosexuality, autism and mental illness at the same time, and we all know Riot loves diversity and inclusion.
Schizophrenic retards should kys and start in your containment general, ty
>>540043368>different mediums (and reworks) require different thingsYeah. this whole meltdown is diseased.When they gave Samira a hook in LoR it's like yeah what are you gonna get mad she didnt get her windwallThis is unironically just a redditor crying he doesn't get to see his epic reference on screen he can point and clap too
>>540042523thats exactly what i’ve been saying. this game only exists because friends within the riot dev team. thats why its so shit. apologyman made it kek. stupid pajeet smasher piece of shit
I thought since this is a general of the freeking game, anons who post here should cheer for the game to succeed. Why visit the general of a game and only shit on the game?
>>540045226since their /snk/ nip loving game is dead, and their capcuck game has been turned into a throw simulator, so they have to vent about a this game as well
I won my first multiplayer match!
>>540045226fgg retards doompost anythin that isn't sf6
>>540045721congrats cutie got an avatar for me
News 'soon'
>>540044614nah, youre the redditor dick riding the devs for a goyslop title that will be dead within a year lol.
>>540046069lmaoooooo that shit getting delayed
>>540046072when the schizophrenic melties for 4 hours everyone else is the dickrider
>>540045226i mean i usually am playing the game but see 0 opinions reflecting my own so im glad to come to this forum and realize people with actual brains exist that see what im seeing. this game is so bad. (gonna play it for 1k hours)
https://x.com/i/status/1969969906570703087T H I R T Y FUCKING SECONDS
>>540046193no, just you
>>540035360>blitzcrank uses the wrong arm the west has fallen
I love jinx so much brosHow did they do her so much justiceThe only thing missing is her bikini but I'm sure there'll be a mod for it
>>540046691it has
beat dany 2-1where's your god now strivers
>>540044281Rent free. If you can post someone better than Clayton go ahead. Just hire him under a alias if hearing his name triggers you that badly. Doesn't change the fact no one is touching Clayton when it comes to games. The dev team themselves used to be Clayton dick riders before they got hired. It's no surprise that once they threw Clayton under the bus to get a job they suddenly ran out of ideas themselves.
>>540046149Console launch will be when the game launches, no?
>>540047234Clayton stop posting in here
>>540047505Why does Clayton trigger you so bad? Just the mention of his name makes some people go crazy I swear lmfao.
>>540046398hyg >>539978489
>>540047234>Rent free. If you can post someone better than Clayton go ahead. Just hire him under a alias if hearing his name triggers you that badly. Doesn't change the fact no one is touching Clayton when it comes to games. The dev team themselves used to be Clayton dick riders before they got hired. It's no surprise that once they threw Clayton under the bus to get a job they suddenly ran out of ideas themselves.how come these 2xko devs are living rent free in your head, Clayton? what did these devs do to you? can someone give me the lore?
it's always funny when you kill someone's point yasuo and they just have no fucking clue what to do with their other character
>2xkofags thinking their game is hot shit for having 30 second combosBorringHeres a real niggas long combo now this is real nigga shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6aiOXdALLY&ab_channel=datHazy
>>540046769Her voice lines are great, shoot em if you got em is turning into a meme
>>540046769>How did they do her so much justiceUh but they made her ugly?
>>540046769>I'm sure there'll be a mod for itThat one strive modder said that modded games can't go online but that might be referring to heavily modded games with shit like goku added, not sure if it extends to audio and costume mods
>>540048339i used modded outfits for strive online all the time
I think overly long combos are the Sony movie game cinematic experience equivalent of fighting games.
>>540035360What makes me mad is that we'll never get Zyra because game already has ugly Illaoi and her tentacles
>>540048092thats gay though
>>540048459no thats cinematic supers.and the supers are in fact way too long in this game.
>>540048339You can use nodded skins in vanguard in lol, so I imagine they'll be able to make them for 2xk0
i have never once, in my entire life, for any reason, EVER intentionally pressed 4h on blitz and every time i've pressed it on accident it's gotten me killed instantly
>>540048437Dumbass, he was talking about 2xkoHe's trying to mod 2xkoEnglish is not a difficult language to learn
>>540049679his post was wondering about whether or not modded games can go online, using something a strive modder said. i pointed out that i've used strive mods online. the implication here is that modded games can go online. i hope that clears things up for you!
>>540048786No cinematic supers are just the cutscenes
>>540048561zyra would not be getting in even without illaoi sorry man
>>540050042But she was my main when I was still playing LoL...
>>540035806the move she grabs you in the air is kinda like her R
>>540051713yeah,the unstoppable part of her R = super1the slam down part of her R = jS1
>>540047845Actually Clayton has showed it's him who lives rent free in the 2XKO dev teams head. He's showed many private messages between him and the dev team during the games development. Sounds like you are just another one of his schizo haters desu.
>>540050567>>540048561Zyra is flopgottena shame because she was one of the first rly hot league characters, though she got kinda powercreptI obviously don't like how Illaoi looks (though her Resistance skin in League helps a bit), but I always enjoyed a bit how she plays and it's the same here, but now I am mad that you could have Zyra doing the exact same shit (+ her root which would be more interesting)In fact I like both Zyra and Illaoi and until now I never made the connection of how similar they are in that regard
clayton posting is hilarious
>>540052245I actually wouldn't be surprised if Clayton was responsible for literally every single good thing in this game.
>>540052817It is true, many of the devs on the team were huge Clayton fan boys back in the day. Not surprising apology man and clockw0rk are big marvel heads and used to talk about Clayton a lot.
>>540051713her R is the chain
>>540035360this autistic schizo is probably onto something, at the very least about Ahri, she kinda sucksthe character that was ported the best so far is Illaoi
>>539976937This poster is right, look at this shit.
>>540022432Tachigoat... no...
Now this art finally is on topic... crazy girl lovers WW@Someone link the fightan mains template so I can make a new image
>>540039328>>540040707>theres a lot of routes you can take with designing these characters that don’t involve turning them into derivative fighting game functions like “grappler” and “iaido samurai”>even then, there are still issues with how much the character revolves around mechanics by the devs vs mechanics ported from lol. yasuo mainly revolves around stances which dont exist in lol, making his gameplay feel more dissonant. youre just playing a samurai not yasuo.To be honest I'm almost being convinced by this retard.I'd say that besides his windwall (already in the game), Yasuo's most defining trait is his dash-strike (E), which is very, very little explored in this game. Obviously it's not something very simple as his dash works off minions, that a FG will never have, or multiple characters, which isn't feasible either. However, maybe you could do something like Grimnir from Granblue. https://twitter.com/Yobu_1/status/1969502963098853545What they did with his stance/Q/Tornado/windwall isn't bad, but maybe they could have done it differently? have his Q charge the tornado on hit/block and then you can throw the tornado with the next cast. Hell, make him unable to use his super if they're not airborne, that would be cool instead of the lame cinematic it is nowI'm giving more and more thought into this argument that the game is just a tag fighter designed by people who have never touched League using the LoL IP as a skin
nobody cares about lol you dumbfuckthe only decent thing riot produced with this garbage ip is arcanefuck you and your garbage characters. They are all derivative boring shit and are tolerable only cause 2xko artstyle lift them up a little
>>540042095You'd enjoy Granblue if you like small details so much.It will make it really hard for you to enjoy the lack of care and passion in other games, though.
>>540055528?2010-2015 lol was peakarcane and leagues disneyfication was what ruined the game actually you peasant
>>540046769never liked the bikini, doesn't suit her. Her arcane top is the best
>>540055313the discussion is over, stop responding to yourself
>>540047035we don't take this tag kusoge seriously
>>540055528bad post
>>540055313>Yasuo's most defining trait is his dash-strikeNigger what the fuck are you on about, it's absolutely his Q pelting people during laning or nuking anyone after that phase
>>540055675>2010-2015 lol was peakTake your meds monkey
>>540055679peak among retardswe are fighting game players here. Nobody cares about the ip
desu the only one on the dev team that has a real beef with Clayton is Aaron. Aaaron has hated Clayton with a burning passion since the Guilty Gear days and isn't afraid to let anyone know about it. He's always had a stick up his ass about him when he gets brought up which just stems from Clayton knew more about the game than he did. He's made a lot of really dark and inappropriate comments about Clayton dying throughout the years which Clayton has always made reference too.Aaron is pretty decent at games though, and is good friends with Sean so he got hired. Simple as that. I've never heard of anyone having any real beef with Clayton besides Aaron, and many people on the team openly liked Clayton. At least, before they got hired they did.
I wonder, what are the chances we'll get actually new characters like the bunny or the tummy chick early
>>540047234I can't take the name Clayton seriously because it's a name associated with poverty where I'm from.Kinda like 'Cletus'
>>540047035who?
>>540055816You can smell my nuts. I got in late but thought the debate was amusing.>>540055971Please get out of Silver.
>>540056621EL MAZAhe top 8s in tns pretty frequently, or he used to idk if he still plays
>>540056275>>540047234Either this is Clayton posting about how he got left behind and can't seem to move forward with his life, which is 100% mental illness, or it's some mental ill fan having another mans dick this far up his ass, kek.Get a grip on life, and go touch some grass.
>>540056691>Please get out of Silver.Nigger it's about it being the most recognizable thing about him not about strength, clearly English isn't one of yours either way.
>>540057240I don't know why you'd say something so rude about Clayton when the guy's just someone who deeply loves and understands fighting games on a level that frankly nobody else in the scene does. Or ever will.It's actually kind of chilling to think that there may never be another intellect as great as Clayton's.
>>540056457>>540057240Stop replying to clayton posts man it's that easy
>>540057240Clayton posts about himself in almost every /vg/ fg thread and yes, he is schizophrenic (as in, not joking)
qrd on Clayton
>>540057742Some mentally ill dude that got builled and had his tech stolen by fgc people, and now holds a vendetta years later
Schizophrenic samefagging shit posters should still kys, ty
>>540035360this anon is rightit honestly feels like a crossover between two companies like when the danganronpa artist drew a fgo character or when kubo drew naruto in bleach style, except it's cool when it's a crossover, not so much when it's the same company and the new counterpart (2xko) looks amateurish and soullessnot only the anon is right, but there's also a similar point to be made regarding the artstyle. it's so uncannily different (in a bad way) from league. yasuo looks like a bad cartoon samurai, ekko looks like a random black person, illaoi looks like a random butch lesbian, vi had her design already butchered by arcane so w/e, ahri feels generic and too cartoony, darius looks like a random guy in armor, etc
>>540057742he is good at fighting games and doing combos and he has good fragrance reviews too
>>540057240I don't know why you'd say something so rude about Clayton when the guy's just someone who deeply loves and understands dick on a level that frankly nobody else in the scene does. Or ever will.It's actually kind of chilling to think that there may never be another apex homosexual as great as Clayton.
>>540058434Dude the art on the left looks awful, very 2008 with no personality.
>>540059190Post art you think is good
You guys don't even know the better Ekko ain't Sonicfox.
>>540059190
>>540059341
>austere warlord who killed his commander>turned into a cartoon network deadbeat father with a five o clock shadow>>540059689npc
>>540058434holy shit do you have eyes?left artstyle is atrocious. 2xko artstyle is good enough to make these garbage generic characters look a little bit interesting at least
>>540059774This looks like a loading screen of Dragon age Origins if it was released in 1998.
this nigga unironically likes lol artstyleunbelievable
>>540057240>>540057392>>540057501>>540058131>>540058547Rent free. You're not better than Clayton come on now. ffs you schizos search anything fighting game related everyday searching his name and then call him schizo. Clayton is based af.
>>540059689gay as fuck>>540059849>2xko artstyle is goodlollmao
>>540059774i simply ignore that that shit comic. one of the worst things riot ever made. not even because it's straight but because they literally waste like 80% of it on the creator's original character and then kill her for drama. absolute shit
>>540059849
Can we talk about the game please I got home from work and this art talk is boring thanks.
>>540058434>>540059774>>540060112Ok manLets calm down a little bit and look at the factsI like league splash arts a lot too but the reason they look so good is because they give a lot of freedom to the artist to just do anything and render the fuck out of every detailYou can't translate that "style" to any kind of game or anything.Arcane doesnt look anything like a league splash, neither does any of the cinematics they put out beyond the once-a-year disney-esque level ones, but even those look like weird cosplayers half the time.Hell fucking LEAGUE OF LEGENDS doesnt look anything like the splash arts lets be real. When was the last time the skin you bought looked as good as the splash lol
>>540060547... discussing the game's art style is, by definition, discussing the game
>>540060547How was your day, and who do you main?
>It was the Qiyanafag that can't even play his main in the actual mainline game itself without crying and abandoning her if he doesn't winLoving every laugh
>>540055679early 2009 league was the peak actually
>>5400606232XKO art style is bad, man. the 2D portion looks like a very cheap version of Strive's. The 3D portion looks like a cheap knock off of Arcsys' trademark cel shading, but I don't fault them too much for it, Arcsys is just a master of their craft in that regard.It has nothing to do with not being able to translate art styles between games.And no one is bringing up Arcane or the cinematics.
Maybe they could've translated an artstyle that doesn't look like generic "Westoid animu" shit.
>>540060623i genuinely don't even know what people want the game to look likeit looks fine to me
>>540061117no, it's good specifically cause they are trying to mimic arcsysnot good as the masters but it's the best thing they could have done. Way better than lol generic 2000 westoid garbage
>>540061046Im a masters level qiyana though?Also I only stopped playing league because Riot decided to make Qiqi get permabanned for a month straight and now im too busy to grind >>540061117The point was regarding how your main critique was>it's so uncannily different (in a bad way) from league. You can't actually translate the league artstyle because league doesnt HAVE an artstyle.It has a bunch of splash arts and a bunch of shitty models you only think look okay because they're so far from the cameraThere's a reason why none of riot's properties ever look the same which is my point. If you want to call the 2xko style dogshit feel free but the criticism can't be "because its different from league"But also I do think it looks sick af so
>>540061328It's good. Stylish enough so it won't age as quickly, and no resource intensive so it can run on virtually anything. It's Riot's style for all their games.
>>540061685the fact that this shit is 3gb is so good to me
>>540060809Fine bro.Ekko/Jinx
>>540061685And it's probly easier to make skins for as well
>>540062219tomorrow i see the nerfs inc, Jinx, Ekko and Yasuo probly
>>540060623they can and should try to translate to some degree, or in the very least, redesign it in a good way>Arcane doesnt look anything like a league splashi agree, but arcane, like everything made by riot past 2018, is badthe fact they made the tv show after the most cringeworthy cw-like storyline shows it. they also butchered vi and vitkor designs, gave jinx and viktor the most generic tear jerking backstories and so onthe 3d models in league ARE translated, to some degree, from the splash arts. at the very least, the designs are. and 2d gives them more capability to translate the splash arts>>540061520>because league doesnt HAVE an artstyleno way. leagues splash arts are pretty characteristic, you know something is a splash art just by looking at it
They should've made Illaoi look like thisShe was SO much hotter in this game damn
>>540062587>i agree, but arcane, like everything made by riot past 2018, is badNow this is cope.
>>540062587>i agree, but arcane, like everything made by riot past 2018, is badthe fact they made the tv show after the most cringeworthy cw-like storyline shows it. they also butchered vi and vitkor designs, gave jinx and viktor the most generic tear jerking backstories and so onthe 3d models in league ARE translated, to some degree, from the splash arts. at the very least, the designs are. and 2d gives them more capability to translate the splash artsYou are probly one of those retards that say every rework is bad and wants everything to look like 2013, you are retarded and brown.
>>540062587>you know something is a splash art just by looking at itYes, man yes. The splashes do follow a flowchart.But would you be able to show a random person the splash of Nasus and then the model of Ekko and would they think both things were in the same game, in the same artstyle? Not even going into skins or anything either, they would say no bro wtf?And here I'll give you the floorCan you name 1 single video, advertisement, game or anything Riot has made, pre 2018 or post 2018, that looked like the "style of league of legends."Just 1 single one bro if you think there is an actual style can you define what it actually looks like
why do I lose so much to mashing in this game? it feels off
>>540063492recovery in this game is so fucking weird
>>540063492It's the best defensive tool around
>>540062589God forbid she look like an actual woman. She's not a looker in League but she is still distinctively female thereShe is actually just a man in 2XKO
>>540063492Why are you not adapting?
>>540062589>>540065798Now post how she actually looks in game
>>540057392>>540057501>>540058131>>540057240Meds pls ffs I swear Clayton isn't toxic but any time he is brought up for any fighting game the most deranged schizos appear like clockwork.
>>540067132They're just jealous.
>>539937695Jinxbros...
>>540066518this might be the first game ever that makes me actually go and lab framedata like an autismo because it feels absolutely necessary even at low level play
i simply play better neutral than the opponent and beat them without gimmicks
>>539986278Idk why shitposters havent picked up on the fact people love tag games
>>540069394https://files.catbox.moe/jo4uj8.webm^ is a better example (it was jugg vs. jugg, i only picked it because the other guy was) but man it feels so good to just outplay the fuck out of someone in this game. if i hadn't parried the first hit of that special after the super, i would've instantly died of chip. i'm so epic>>540069691there's a million things you can poke and prod at about 2xko ("muh gwafix muh artstyle muh long combos muh motion controls") but "it's a tag game" is definitely not one of them yeah lol
no one likes tag games
i actually dont mind english jinx but JP jinx is doing some things to me peepee cant lie
Characters like Darius have no business having a 60% combo off a grab in the corner. This game is already brutal enough
>>540069691if by people you mean the 1000 guys who played marvel and then dragon ball i agree
>yasuo is a stance character>braum is an install character>ahri is rushdown>ekko is projectile spamthey didnt port a single champ correctly from league
>>540063492Lemme guess: your meaty oki moves aren’t landing either?
>sandwich the opponent>tag>he starts hitting my assist>autocorrects and hits me right as I'm about to do my offenseobviously a skill issue but it still pisses me off
>>540070358dumb kot
>>540070035darius deserves every bit of damage he gets for navigating his big slow ass through this game's neutral. if anything, his damage should be higher considering it's easy for half the cast to outdamage him while still having better mix, movement, and tools
>>540070337that too but mostly the tech into immediate J.L that converts into full combo
>>540070358Honestly, ill take it over having my own hits not face the right way
How hard is it to rank up right now? I ask because I started off in emerald after my placements and despite winning only like 60% of my matches I’m about to hit diamond. It seems a little too easy to climb imo
is it just me or is ekko yasuo and vi kinda op? i play braum and blitz and its pretty hard to like get optimal damage routes consistently, usually if i have a weird confirm from neutral its really hard to correct that route and convert it to a full OTG+super combo, but with those 3 champs it seems almost harder to actualy miss the OTG combos.like when vi just punches you up from the ground and does another full combo from OTG, and same when yasuo just stomps you and does a full OTG route. Those 3 characters feel like they have DBFZ-level auto correct in their combos, meanwhile if i hit my 3H as braum slightly misspaced none of my specials will link. my pressure is just over and i already mentioned how much more effort it is to convert a random stray hit back into a full bnb.
>>540070672It seems easy, but it could be that way for testing purposes. I'd expect a lot of systems to be tuned differently in the full release.
>>540070582Does grab teaching leave us in neutral in this game or does the teacher get frame advantage?
>>540070672same experience but I think it's mostly because many people are relying on the unfamiliarity of a new game to climb even if they aren't that good. like 3/5 of my emerald games are against people who will refuse to block.
>>540070848i am wondering if ranked will get harder or easier once full release comes around. right now you can be high diamond and your opponent won’t know how to deal with parry or even that it exists.
>>540070672too easy. and when it resets it's going to be even easier because i'm going to be someone who's been playing in grandmaster for a month ranking up against people who are playing for the first time.
>>540070856from what I see it seems to be back to neutral. Also I meant air tech into J.L, that shit is maddening
>>540070856*techingThat wasn’t autocorrect my mind genuinely thought “teaching” was the way you spelt it since that’s a real word
>>540070565lmao this nigger thinks darius has trouble getting hits in with his moves and does bad damage
>>540070786yeah, those three are the most consistent in their routes. you cannot get hit from far enough away that you're safe, or even have them end up going for a worse, lower damage route. meanwhile, if i as darius hit someone from 1 pixel too far, i can't even reach the opponent for the the next 2/3 of my route and end up having to cash out early. it's lame as fuck.at least vi is still new-ish so they'll probably tone her down a bit more. ekko and yasuo are working as intended though (and in fact they BUFFED yasuo after AL2 because they thought he was "too honest" LOL)>>540071248>only champ in the game that had to be given an entire new special move from alpha to beta because he struggles that much>but he's totally good bro trustok buddy
>>540071346Holy shit what a homoGuy thinks Darius was undertuned in he last two alphas too when we literally had 7/8 top 8's with Darius in both of themYou just suck ass
>>540071346>only champ in the game that had to be given an entire new special move from alpha to beta...of the 6 characters to exist, what a massive roster and so much competition
>>540071584im pretty good actuallysorry you are asleep at the wheel and can't parry apprehend (TWENTY EIGHT FRAME startup) and then you also can't parry the headbutt after (only special in the game that gives you two separate opportunities to parry it) but that's not my problem
>>540071896>im pretty good actuallyPost rank and recent matches. I’m not even that guy I just expect people to it back up if they’re gonna talk shit
>>540071896This faggot doesn't know what an assist is in a tag fighterThis faggot doesn't know how privileged Dari's normals areNot like I was expecting anything else from a fat fuck who spams the thread with his actual homo art and fantasies every other minute but still, imagine being this bad
>>540072102im in grandmaster with a decent wr>>540072347hes pretty universally agreed to be one of the worse characters in the game oomfie
>0/5 in placement matches>platinum 1why
>>540072546>556 gamesDamn wtf, how do you guys pull numbers like this?
>>540072546its so obvious the devs themselves cant even use parry correctly. so the most parryable moves in existence get a slide because the devs probably get hit by that shit anyways. apologyman should literally rope. faggot ass ekko/yasuo merchant. and hes horrible at every other game hes attempted to play.
>>540072664i love my husband and playing as him without having to play league makes me happy :)>>540072874the good news is you can practice and get better
where do i see how many GMs there are and what score i need to get top 500? i checked the leaderboard but it only goes to top 100?
>>540035360Darius is the only character that translated pretty well. The only thing I would change is making his pull like 10 frames faster.
>>540073769>The only thing I would change is making his pull like 10 frames faster.>The only thing I would change is letting a rekka starter with a vacuum which is also an assist, has great range and that gives you an unavoidable 50/50 that leads to 60% easily a startup as good as a H buttonI swear to god some of you shouldn't be allowed to give feedback
>>540072615MMR, I went 3/5 and got placed in gold
>>540073091>>540073091>gay autist with absurd dedication to their character Spitting image of a modern FGC pro
>>540074057>get 3/5 wins for my placement matches too>got Emerald 1The ranking system works in mysterious ways
holy fuck which players were saying that juggernaut is strong right now? how the fuck do you play as this when the opponent is just sitting fullscreen waiting for their assist and zoning you out all game with gigantic buttons that can almost TOD you for free
When's Irelia?
>>540072874You're seething uncontrollably about getting mogged by a fag, and can't even get your cope right kek. If the devs were having problems with parry and getting hit, the usual line is they would nerf it and make it easier for plebs like them and you to block it lmao, it's not the devs fault youre better at drooling on your keyboard than pressing your buttons
>>540078702parrying is easy lol. they shouldnt have moves that are so easily parryable on a character whos offense and pressure are already horrible. thats how braum and darius and blitz are. good luck using parry to prevent ekko from mixing you to death tho. literally doesnt help.The devs are bad at using it, so it’s use case is so painfully obvious that it’s not really an issue of skill or when to use it, but outside of the obviously applicable moves to use it against, its not a really helpful tool.the devs cant use it outside of the situations where you can literally see the move coming from a mile away.
>>540070672I'm not that good, ranking up is boosted. I'm getting like +60 at diamond 3 when wins should barely be getting me anything and losses should hurt me hard. This is how normal games work.They've inflated it for us right now.
>>540080546They might tweak the numbers after launch but yeah right now it feels too easy to the point ranks don't feel like they represent their label. Fighting/being a Diamond+ who can barely function feels awkward because my rank says one thing but my gameplay doesn't match it.
Surely at least ONE enchanter has to get in rightAny bets on who's the MYSTERY SISSY?
>>540082091Lux
https://youtu.be/eteRqTEJ_CURooflemonger is a Darius player and he's complaining that combos are too long.People like this deserve to get their controllers forcibly broken by statemandated Riot Guards
>>540082770Combos are too long though
Im pretty excited to see more adcsAlways liked their designs in league but hated the gameplay of being a medium rare steak on a plate the entire gameJinx is fun as fuck so Im feeling good
>>540082770>play a tag fighter>complain about long combosMan I hate rally races. The cars go too fast for me to enjoy. They should go slower because I think that’d be cooler
Whats the point of making this beta? Like aren't they kind of just wasting time by making the game playable but nothing purchasable?Surely the better play would be to just ship the game and start milking people from the jump to maximize the number of eyes and wallets on the game
>>540082817Kill yourself
>>540073091i thought this was the angry soijak from the thumbnail
>>540083227It's only fucking jive and dixers that complain about this shit. Faggots
>>540075932In league you start at 1400 mmr and your first 10 games have a shit ton of impact i believe it takes some data from your normal games but it's nothing majorhere the ranking is already pre-determined, the 5 games just show you it
>>540082770Most people play pvp games to play against other people and not jerk off by themselves for thirty seconds or watch somebody else jerk off for thirty seconds after every interaction.
>>540035360to add to this, it's obvious their FG selves would need to be expanded upon, but the baseline should 100% be based on the game first.Like Blitz. Why doesn't his Steam mechanic make it periodically rain down a lightning bolt on the enemy for a small amount of damage?I also feel like his command grab would be more thematically fitting if he punched you into the air and was able to combo off it, like Charlotta's command grab, instead of just being a Potbuster reskin
wtf i jumped straight from P3 to E1 im himActually is it like flipped or something is P3 not the lowest rank?
>>540084634>I also feel like his command grab would be more thematically fitting if he punched you into the air and was able to combo off it, like Charlotta's command grab, instead of just being a Potbuster reskinHe already does punch you into the air and combo off it bro. If you mash after he hooks you he just uppercuts you for an air combo.He still has his Q-E he just also now has a new Q-Grab Can you play the game before making posts that make you look retarded?
>>540084237Besides, long combos can be okay if>they are hard to execute>they require resources>they are situational They don't need to fit all these, but IMO at the very least they require the second point.2XKO is kinda the polar opposite. Combos are braindead easy, they don't require resources and they are not situational
>>540084237ManYou guys have never played card games beforePeople fucking LOVE jerking off by themselves There's something about just putting a guy into jail and making him watch you cum everywhere dude you wouldnt get it
>>540085053is this bait or do you just want to waste my time or something
>>540085687>>540083227Most people don't play card games or tag fighters lil niggaMarvelfags are fucking INSUFFERABLE bro>>540083284>Whats the point of making this beta?They're getting slapped on the ass and told the get the game out the fucking door before they get fired and the project canned.
>>540085906>They're getting slapped on the assif that were the case wouldnt you be able to whale the fuck out alreadythey pushed it out with no microtransactions at all
>>540086004>if that were the case wouldnt you be able to whale the fuck out alreadyThey're resetting shit when beta ends
Schizophrenic samefagging retards should kys, ty
>>540085723Ok so you can't play the game gotcha>hurr just make his command grab the exact same as his normal combo route because...we need more epic league of legends references!!!>>540085906>Most people don't play card games Ok tubby you're getting a little bit excited thereMTG is bigger than any fighting game has and ever will be you can sit down and take a deep breath
>>540085687I thought I escaped plebs in yugioh crying about 5 minute turns just to find an esl schizo pissing and shitting everywhere and losing its mind over 30 seconds, I guess shitters never change
>>540086269>MTG is bigger than any fighting game has and ever will beNOT a high bar
>>540086224yeah thats my pointif it were being rushed out the door surely they wouldve just launched the bitch its clearly playable
>>540086526>moving the goalpostI accept your concession, you are indeed retarded I agree
>>540085687I've played MTG. It wasn't great but I did like playing a blue deck that said no whenever someone tried to jerk off in front of me. Pretty sure most card games generally have some level of interaction even after someone whips his dick out and it's acceptable to just scoop when someone starts going at it and you don't think you can stop him while in a fighting game you just have to sit and watch full focus the entire time. I think it's a little different. I'm not really sure what your point is anyway. It's not like card games are hugely popular normalfag-tier shit.
>>540086740That's not at all moving the goalpost, dude.
>>540086857The point is you might be the person who hates jerking off but there is a wide, wide market of people who love jerking off. They scoop when they themselves dont get to get there and climax, but they would keep playing if there were a chance they could in the future, obviously.Making a post effectively saying that nobody likes cumming all over somebody else, is just very ignorant of the wider world.Also it's not just MTG. yugioh especially is just an absolute masturbatory competition
>>540086857>It's not like card games are hugely popular normalfag-tier shit.It's a genre of pvp game that people play.You were the one who started talking about pvp games when you brought up jerking off for thirty seconds. Card games don't need to be hugely popular normalfag tier shit to be a clear counter example.
>>540084634exactly. its obvious to everyone that you need to expand the characters kit from their moba counterpart. but the baseline features of the champion should follow the original champ design much more closely. they are way too loose with their creative liberties on what “yasuo e” is or “blitz w”
>>540086269yeah, league of legends references are kinda the main selling point of the game. its like saying “magneto doesnt need a octo-dash” oh wait. you must be one of those soulless faggots that is addicted to sucking dev-cock. the devs are obviously retards that have never gotten a league account to level 30, and that’s obviously not who should be designing league of legends champions ported to a fighting game. my logic is flawless meanwhile your entire existence revolves around emptying the cannon brothers’ balls
>>540087648>>540088609>Making a post effectively saying that nobody likes cumming all over somebody else>It's a genre of pvp game that people play.Where did I say that nobody does? Where did I say there are not other pvp games that involve jerking off? Do you think most people like card games and tag fighters? Are you disagreeing with me when I say otherwise? Here's the part where you insist I was implying something I never said.
No you don't understand, bro I NEED this to be umvc3. It shouldn't be its own thing. It should just be umvc3.Also when capcom drops a new mvc Im dropping this kusoge and I never liked it
>>540089136???He has the E broRIGHT NOW you are complaining that he doesnt have a SECOND E
I think Yasuofags should make like Illaoitards and kill themselves
>>540086269Eh, I'll concede on the blitz example because I didn't know his E was a rocket grah cancel, i thought it was hist 2H which would make it just a reskin instead of a functionhowever>hurr just make his command grab the exact same as his normal combo route because...we need more epic league of legends references!!!that is absolutely the opposite of what im arguing
>>540086857The point is waiting 30 seconds is childs play in every card game, especially when the opponent needs some time to think through their turns, and very often you'll have to wait with no interaction until your next turn where you should be paying attention with full focus to figure out what cards they're running and what your plan will be. Games here last a max of 6 minutes, and you get 45 minutes to play a bo3 in yugioh in comp play, which is the tag fighter equivalent of the card game world, and matches go to time a lot there since turns take so long. In yugioh master duel you get a 5 minute chess clock that pauses as you take actions, so you'll need to sit through ten minutes sometimes to get to your turn, and you can still win those games, I've been on the winning and losing side of both p1 doing the long turn or p2 waiting for them. Waiting for the 30 second combos in a tag game is a fucking breeze compared to waiting minutes in card games, and all you really need to think about is holding a tech button
can they add taliyah so i have a character i want to fuck
>>540089330his E uses the incorrect arm. they couldn’t actually use the E once in practice tool before they animated it into 2xko? his E as it stands is only usable after his Q, which would be a funny reference to LoL how the usecase for E is often to follow-up a Q, IF the animations and gameplay were accurate/congruent.If his E knocked directly upwards at a 90 degree angle this would make it better. as it stands it knocks them in front of you a little bit, which isn’t how his E works in game
>>540089152Ahh the classic abort out of the argument play>actually I wasn't implying anything at all, when I said most I actually meant 51% you cannot disprove thisThat is a tried and true blue player anti-jerk off move proud of you. Yes, most implies nearly all. This is in every dictionary on earth my ESL goat.>>540089312When Yasuo gets a devil trigger your post will make sense but right now it doesntThis game needs more umvc3 imo shit isnt quite wacky enough
>>540090646BASED but Qiyana too please
>>540090770youre a retard. the game is full of degenerate mix from yasuo ekko and vi. the problem is incompetent designers that cant make a character that feels fun. they can only make railroaded FG archetypal amalgams that are derivative from earlier FG characters designed by actual intelligent beings with souls. nothing in this game is original, let alone “good”
>>540091013Jinx is fun though. I haven't quite seen her collection of projectiles in a different game before and her BIG ZAP is neatAlso Ekko is pretty unique too I haven't seen a super that just lets you teleport backwards beforeYas is very cringe though I agree
>>540091342ekko is cancerous, like half of his kit is literally designed to ignore hitstun decay and extend combos after what would normally be allowed. not even gonna mention his 16-way safe mixup shit. i swear to god he has like a 32-way fucking mixup. 64 way.
>>540090986Hornybrain aside is Qiyana's kit even fun, or would it fit well in 2XKO?
>>540091647why even care about her kit? its not getting translated accurately into 2xko. they might add her because she has a unique weapon that would fit will with pre-established fighting game archetypes. shr will probably be added due to her popularity. probably comes down to 1 of the faggot devs having a personal fetish for them to get in.
>>540091813one of the faggot devs whom i hope die a horrible death btw.
>>540091813>accuracynigga do you think i give a fuck about league of legends
>>540091981so then why did you ask about her kit? that did make me think you cared about lol yeah. my bad.
>against an illaoi + blitzkrank dynamic>one touch from illaoi>80% of your life goneWho the fuck designed this kusoge
>>540091647Yes she's perfect.In league she has essentially an ammo system where she needs to load her spells before she uses themShe picks up rock (crit damage) from walls, ice (roots people) from the river, and grass (perma stealth) from bushes.You definitely wouldn't be able to translate the terrain gimmick but I think it'd work well enough as a stance swap champ.In her combos you do a lot of rapid-reloading to get the element you want and reset your spell, and her ultimate is the sickest because you have to pin people to either a wall, grass or water to get damage out of it.Also her animations are literally the best in the game with the hulahoop.I see her as a rushdown skewed all-rounder with powerful projectiles, movement options and mix but locked behind 3 separate stances (rock, ice and grass) she can only access one at time and maybe even only for brief moments to incentivize swapping between each one but you could also just swap to the same one over and over.>>540091813You definitely wouldn't ever able to really translate how her gimmicks work so this is true. I dont mind them taking liberties.
>>540092160actually that's 80% of one character's lifeIts only about 40% of your total life so the game is 4 touches that's pretty normal
>>540092394So a Sandalphon from Granblue who actually has stances that genuinely change how they play. I like it>>540092082Because a kit may give me an idea as to whether they're fun or not you squirter
its so obvious the devs of 2xko just wanted to make rising thunder 2. the only unironically glowing review of the game i heard was actually a guy saying he missed RT1 and this being RT2 is perfect. didnt think much of it at the time but damn its actually true. the devs just wanted to make sure they got paid. they are making sure their bosses are happy with this game, basically 0 passion is put into the league of legends portion of the product.
>>540093291she probably will be fun because she is extremely overtuned and her kit is like 1500 words long compared to OG assassins like zed or talon which have like 250 words to their kit.to me she fits perfectly into the modern era of FG DLC. characters that are much more feature complete and exploit/synergize with the systems of the game.I have no idea how her kit would translate to league other than she would probably play like yasuo with disjointed normals and a bunch of bullshit to combo them with. then mobility added on top to make mixing possible
>stancesShe gets 3 different fireballs and a dive kick take it or leave it
>>540093838Man maybeBut according to the schizos in the thread that would actually be better.That is more accurate to her league self than the stance stuff would be
>>540093838thank you mr cannon. i will expect this character released within 8 years.
>>540090770>Ahh the classic abort out of the argument playAh, the classic catch 22 where you make up my argument for me, literally redefine words, and then criticize me if I don't stick to it.>when I said most I actually meant 51%No, I'd say it's probably more like 80% if I had to throw out a number but I really didn't think that hard about it. Certainly never implied that nobody at all liked it or that there was no audience or other games like it.>Yes, most implies nearly allNo, it really doesn't. Maybe you should check a dictionary yourself before you accuse other people of being ESL. I hope for your sake that you're ESL because you really shouldn't be getting a word like most wrong otherwise.Are you so asshurt about people saying they don't like long combos that you're going to try and cope that yugioh and tag fighters aren't niche? Especially for more competitive play that's not people playing with s- I really should be doing something better with my time than arguing with some retarded faggot that doesn't know basic English. You win, champ.
>>540092394They could just handle her gimmick as "Grounded/aerial/corner" the same way it's "river/ground/bush" in LoL
>>540093380I thought RT was a fucking Street Fighter clone.
>>540090646you have a fetish for semites
>>540094117My bad I should've said *most* dictionaries you win that one eslgodBy bringing up a counter example isn't that crazy good on you champ.Please though, continue being autistic about population numbers and how your tastes are so much less niche than other people while you sit on 4chan and play fightingslop, it is a good use of time
give me zoe in 2xkogive me a portal mixup charactergive me a fireballgive me fun and interesting assistsgive me a pixie archetypegive me setplay with sleep bubblegive me zoe in 2xko
>>540094201Mehh idkIf it worked like that it would be much more restrictive than it is in LoL, and feel pretty arbitrary too. The range of her W is generous enough you can always access the exact element you want even from far away. If they made it specific to the pixel she's standing on that wouldn't really translate the choice the move is supposed to be offering.
>>540095391I do think Zoe will get in at one point. She's by far the best candidate for a wacky random item character and she got into LoR and WR p quickly.Why do item characters always have teleports in every game btw? Crazy coinkidink
What's a cool and underappreciated LoL character that's actually fun that you think should make it inI've had enough of people talking about Zed and Qiyana in these threads
this game just feels like the devs get dopamine purely off of otg extensions.
>>540096537Briar is my dark horse pickFeetfag bait and she'd have a hunger berserk gauge to switch install states like aba.They'd probably just put Warwick in instead of her but he'd be sick too so w/e
>>540096537mordekaiserlet me shadow realm install and get buffed + nerf the opponent, and block all assists from either player.
>>540097186>juggernaut the championyeah that would be pretty sick
>>540096537zac, because he's cute, i love his voice acting, and him being a mama's boy is funny to megragas because we need a fat fuck in this game and exploding barrels on people would be funnyhecarim for the jojo ASB gyro/johnny function (would look fucking funny)
Ekko should have had parallel convergence prove me wrong
>>540097597>what if he had MORE setplayyou get exactly the same vibe from just his vertical timewinder on wakeup Convergence would literally just be exactly that same move but bigger and longer
>>540097597ekko should have been gutted into unusabilityprove me wrong
>>540095821>>540095391fucking disgusting creature
>>540097034>Unironically shilling for that BB reject ABA's playstyleRejected, go away>>540097186>>540097371>Morde and ZACApproved, welcome cool guysNot now though, we fucking have 4 big bodies already
>>540097994i feel like we have yet to see a TRUE "big body" in this game. i say this because recently there was some discourse about it on twitter, with one of the devs going "wait, you guys think of darius as a big body? what defines a big body? huh?" which to me means they've got some truly huge characters planned
>>540098242Cho'Gath after getting to 5 bite stacksJokes aside big bodies right now already take too much of the damn screen and the stages aren't that big, for the love of god don't put someone bigger unless you're willing to address this
>>540098242Teemo is going to be fucking ducking under normals like nobody's business man cant wait
>>540098242>wait, you guys think of darius as a big body? what defines a big body? huhWhile Darius and the other 3 are all big, none of them have legit big body weaknesses when they can dash in on you from fullscreen really easily or do a jump-in from fullscreen too.
>>540096537Udyr
>>540098562If he makes it in and all his turtle stance buttons have armor I'm plugging that gay fuck
>>540098820BASED
>>540098820that would make him faithful to the source and not just a function reskin so it's unlikely
>>540098893Anon Braum already has something similar
>>539944153>No Sett>No Katarina>No Talon>No Lux>No Garen>No Fiora>No Riven>No Jax>No Rengar>No Kha'Zix>No Shyvana>No Jarvan>No Volibear>No Zed, Master Yi, Irelia, Akali>No Diana/Leona>No motherfucking Miss Fortune, if they decided to include Ruined King slop she should have been top priority.>No YordlesThere's way too few characters in this game to attract anybody. It's mostly league fags that play Riot ip games but here they can't even go "wow my main champion is in this game maybe I should try it out!"
>>540098893RETARDactually armor would be more accurate on his RAM STANCE.turtle should only give him BONUS HP and LIFE STEALFAKE FAN FAKE FAN FAKE FAN
>They add Fiora in>They honor her side gimmick with backshot combosY/N?
>>540098963nobody wants Jarvan niggaI dont want to see that nigga in my lol games already i aint trying to see this nigga in project L wtf would he do niggaput a flag down and then dash to it?wow what a champion
>>540099120>fighting a fiora that is flipping over you for a 4way crossup on every hkd and taking 10% maxhp each hitmaybe
>>540099189>put a flag down and then dash to it?Jubei in install mode function where he'll throw a billion flags around and dash to each of them with a hitboxYou know, I thought Jarvan was a gay option and he was a faggot for suggesting him but that's alright
>>540099120no, i hate that cunt
>>540098963Shit listBoomer levels off the charts
so do you guys think they're going to try balancing yasuo considering he's absolutely dominating top 8s or are they gonna go full league of legends and keep buffing him for no reason/keep allowing him to be top 1
God damn, that schizo was a king among men.I can't stop thinking about how characters are just function reskins instead of something new & innovative that borrows concepts from the MOBA to blow fresh air on fighting games it's a tag game so you don't even have any excuse to not be bold
>>540099623>considering he's absolutely dominating top 8He's not as present as Ekko and tied with Illaoi
>>540098963Unironically where the fuck are all the other characters? And where are the more interesting ones that are just human(oids)?
>>540099671So true. I want teemo to be able to put down 5 minute long mushrooms you can't see, or interact with. And he MUST able to blind your normals for 2 seconds straight with an undodgeable homing missile or else whats even the point
>>540099926They're saving them for after release because this is a live service game and people get bored quickly without biweekly or monthly content drops.
>>540099860https://x.com/TampaNeverSleep/status/1968914342633525381?t=5vKzaIA6ZsE__brfSdRpkg&s=19
>>540100086Fair, but I was hoping for a base roster of at least 20. I really hope they just have them (mostly) done and stashed away and that they are some of the more interesting designs.
Currency gain is so slow especially considering how it's tied to dailies and weeklies
>>540100163>I really hope they just have them (mostly) done and stashed awaythis is kind of what i'm hoping. launch with 10 and then give us a new character once every 2 or so months and people will calm down about the roster size. what they need to build right now is hype and trust
>>540100510fuck that, they need to launch with a surprise NEW 10. 20 characters on launch or this game's fucking dead
>>540099584I'm more of a monster fag but I restrained myself to human shit because there's no way in a billion years riot adds Aurelion Sol or Rek'sai to this game
They probably weren't even going to release this CBT if Tokon didn't light a fire under their butts
>>540100492You vill login and do your dailies and you vill like it.
>>540100086There are currently 171 champions in League. Adding more than 10 wouldn't hurt their live service crap.
i like that ekko's level 3 is basically safe on whiff
>>540100935It will if it means taking a year longer to release.
>>540100163>>540100935They shouldLoR launched with relatively few champs too, only 24 different cards. Which is like 12 decks when you need two champs per deck.It got to like 120ish before dying over its 4 years.
>>540101075This game has been in development for almost 10 years. You're telling me all they could put out was 10 heroes? It's not like they are designing new characters from the ground up. Everything is league inspired from looks to abilities.
>>540030110>me when I got 2xko'ed finally understanding the what the name meant.
>>540035946Iaido is so fucking gay, you can have a powerful swordsman without making him gay.
>>540101681Don't ask me what they were doing all this time. Maybe they got choice paralysis.
>>540061328People complaining about how it looks are tourists. None of them are fighting gam0rs.
>>540082091The Sona Poro Doujin was a semen drainer.
>>540101681They have made a lot more than 10If valo, league and lor is any indication riot will churn out content for the first while of the game's life, new champs every 2 months and skins and maps and shit every few weeks They're just going to dripfeed them so people stay for the ride and they can build up a backlog of content to keep the infinite conveyerbelt of slop going. If they did what SF does and tried to make new characters and then release them when they're done they'd have to take like 4 months between releases at least
>>540089136fággót
>emerald 3>I still don't know how to getup attack
>>540092394sounds like implementing nine from blazblue
>just encountered my first roundstart jinx super->mix FAGGOTi won the set but holy fucking shit kill yourself irl if you play this>>540102772hold s1 or s2 while getting up. also you can't do it if you roll
I swear to god projectiles sometimes disappear
>>540102775Yeah, sorta. But something cool about Qiyana that isn't really reflected in her kit is how her big hula-hoop changes shape and color to match her element. I always thought that should juice her normal hoop swings in some way reflective of the element, so it made me think more about stances rather than as just one-time use Nine spells. But that's not how it works in league so it is kinda just schizo, an ammo system like Nine is closer to league Qiqi taken strictly on gameplay desu
The defense in this game is so gay when 50% of it relies on you having super bar to even attempt even though the move is risky
>>540102625I hope to god that's true. This game needs content every month or so if they are gonna make the f2p model work.
>>540103505Its how literally all of riot's games have ever workedEven mega flop slop LoR was getting new skins every two weeks look at this list https://wiki.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/LoR:List_of_champion_skins
>Game straight up eats inputs but only specific ones if the opponent tagsWhat kind of failure in game design is this
>>540103470retreating guard is free and pushblock only costs your assist
>>540103630Give me this Vi skin in 2xko btw like DAMN she was so fucking hot
>>540103765>retreating guard is freeIt's useless 90% of the time because every interaction puts you to the wall>pushblock only costs your assistGenuinely the single most useless defensive option in the game right now and there's a reason you don't see it at top 8s
>>540103765Are you a riot dev
>let people hit ekko's timewinder like they can hit any of Jinx's lingering hitboxes>suddenly he's balancedwow thats crazy
How do you tech chase after someone techs Blitz's super 1, going for an immediate 2s2 or dash macro 2s2 doesn't work
>>540103405Ah okay, I don't play league so I don't know shit about anything I played s1 and then played a real moba again. I just know that the girl in your pic looks sick and I'd try her at least a few times.
drinking tonight but i want to keep playing tuko but i'll lose a lot...
>>540104985Yup she's the sickest
>start spamming raw mash super with Vi whenever I feel in danger>it works most times because people are really really down bad for a punish when I do unsafe shit in their face
>>540105808>do a raw super after whiffing something egregious >it fails and they block it>panic double down right as it ends>it works and they eat it
Man, this game is so much fun with a partner. Even when we lose or fuck things up for each other, it’s still really nice to play and grind together. Makes the losses feel less painful and the wins more meaningful. Maybe the real fighting games were the friends we made along the way
I fucking hate every Yasuo player I fucking come across. I don't care how good they are I fucking seethe fighting this character holy fuck. Him and Ekko, Illaoi's bullshit, Vi being a cuntFreestyle has gotta be the most degenerate fuse this side of Double Time
>>540103765It's gotta be one of the worst defensive tools in this game
>>540107328yeah, yasuo is honestly fucking braindead. he can make you hold 80 seconds worth of pressure for free and literally every hit he gets converts to a 45 second combo
>>540107870He's the type of character that gets me talking to myself like the fucking AVGN midmatch Why the fuck does he get to just do shit. Free cross-ups, absurd range on his normals, long ass combos, absurd damageThere's a lot that pisses me off in the subgenre that is tagslop but usually the FUN supersedes the stressful bullshit. It's hard to stay invested playing this shit
>>540107986yasuo is really one of the characters in this game that's like completely self-sufficient. there's like, the champs that need assists to play the game, and the champs that don't, and he's definitely in the latter category
I was a yasuo player because I thought he would be a character for gentlemen that executionlets couldn't touch, but since discovering that he is a character for niggers, I have since dropped himI will now play the nigger, ekko, instead
>>540108327i mean ultimately you should play the character you like to play. every single char in this game is bullshit in their own special way
>>540108327Its like rugby and football. Football is a game for Gentleman played by hooligans and Rugby is a game for hooligans played by Gentleman.
this is the only game on the planet where I have issues preventing the opponent from mashing, why is the recovery in this game so fucking weird
>opponent lands after a blocked jump in attack>try to punish with 5L>get hit with their 5M????
>>540109937this feels like something worth labbing
>>540107870>every hit he gets converts to a 45 second combodon't remind me, I was seething when I fought one today that did air tech into that dive slash move he has and proceeded to fucking murder me. I'm new to tag fighters so I'm still not used to dropped combos turning into a dick in your ass instead of going back to neutral
>>540109937WHAT JUMP INS ARE PLUS?!?!?!?!IN WHAT LITERALLY EVERY FIGHTING GAMES DOES THAT HAPPEN!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
>>540110864dude yeah yasuo's dive being a crossup clips my dumb ass every single time because it's so rare that they actually go for it that i always forget to switch directions to block it. it probably gives you such a fat punish if you block it, too
Does this require Riots shitty malware to play?
>>540112158yessir
>>540112284well I'm gonna pass on this then, hope it doesn't brick your PC and you can have fun playing it.
>>540112617yeah i haven't had any issues playing it and if china wants my data okay lol they can have it
>>540112617Wait for console relase if you have one.
>>540112757I'm not installing malware on my PC>>540112765no console at the moment, maybe if it hits Switch 2
>>540112831i didnt even tell you to...it's not ideal i agree but i'm really just this desperate for a fighting game that makes me feel alive
>>540112868I get that, but honestly, but theres always stuff like Fightcade and stuff.Either way, have fun beating up the Arcane girl everyone.
>>540112831What can their malware do that couldn't be done with a regular exe installation?
>>540113231it famously bricks PCs, and its more that its a parasite on games people want to play.
I suck at this game so much, but I just can't stop playing it.
>>540114179it's very god damn fun
>yasuo 60% meterlessgut this fucking toon
>>540115290https://x.com/Sajam/status/1970414758341026012?t=QGnfE9XFI47WMpyIgasX6Q&s=19what if i didnt forget the link? then what, huh?
>>540098963no bro we really needed.............................braum
darius/braumbraum/ekkoekko/dariusor some cheapass team with illaoiI can't decide :(
>>539989486>I thought Dix bores me because of the lackluster roster, but it is actually just a dogshit gameDix has a fantastic roster who are all wasted on the same DR-heavy gameplay that plagues the game
>>540117318im inclined to agree that dix's roster is actually pretty good but mostly because ive been playing sf since 2 and like the world warriors (which is apparently a controversial opinion)that having been said the dlc has been QUITE dogshit (and yes, the dr homogenization truly is insane)
I'm guessing the answer is no, because Riot, but is it possible to see what server its connecting you to?I signed up using my ancient as shit League account and I think the region is all fucked up.
When's Evelyn, Vex, and Briar?
>>540120153dead juat like this thread.
>>540115812ekko/darius
i shan't give up though.
Where did everyone go?
>>540124745it's 8am on a tuesday
>>540124959Tuesday morning...
good morning
>>539953878I assume (because it's Riot, and because there's RR and similar ranks in general) that's it's using the same underlying system as valoranthttps://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/dev/ask-valorant-rank-rating-edition/Basically:- MMR gets calculated like how it would be in any normal videogame, based on wins/losses/maybe other info if relevant- Rank (and RR) gets set at the lower end of your MMR at the start of "rank reset" etc- as you play, RR is gained and lost depending on the distance between your rank and your MMR - so if it thinks you're roughly silver 2 in skill but places you bronze 1 you'll get a ton of points for every win to help you get up to that point
Katarina bros...
>>540127637>The footsies and neuchSOVL.......
>>540127637Yes?
Full interactions for Warwick, Caitlyn and Riven dataminedArcane...won...https://youtu.be/T1lPVX7bftQ?si=_CoQfKcC2_OXGVr8
>>540129239>more arcaneshitDo they actually think the 16 years old tweens who love it are gonna play this game
>>540129239how did it take this long lmao does no one care enough
>>540128264You had development footage of her and she got shafted for release
>>540127731>cant get a double killsovless
>>540129571Warwick will probably be the wolverine function so that's why they prioritized him
>>540127637i need her so badly..katarina/samira and i will never look back
>>540096537I want a Puppet character3 way sandwiches please
>>540129571unironically so
....warwick
What about Warwick?
i need some an unbreakable braum combo
Alright, I'll give this game another try and I'll do so by playing with Juggernaut Ahri. Any Ahri knower to share some info and general advice? Stuff like best buttons in neutral and maybe a good combo that involves activating fury in the middle of it so I can abuse the fact I always have that at the start of a match.
>>540134603Knot tag combo with Rengar when he releases next year
>>540130691>katarina/samiraholy fucking basedyou're alright anonSamira/KatarinaSamira/MF are my most wanted picks
I'm retarded and not very experienced with fighters. Trying to learn some bnb. Can anyone look at this input data and tell me why on the left the H input is getting eaten and not even attempting to be used or come out (I just get a normal dash with no attack animation used). And on the right its executed correctly and I get a dashing heavy.It feels like I'm doing the same thing with my hands on both. But 50% of the time I get left and drop the combo, and 50% of the time I get the right and it works. I want to get right 100%
>>540135856would be easier to see what's happening in a clipone random guess is you're still in recovery from the S1,so you never actually get a dash to come out
>>540136043here's a clipthe dash is always coming out but she's just not charging the heavy while she's dashing half the time
When is this releasing?
>>540137286I released 30 min ago
>>540138038I can't join anymore?
>>540136879Pressing the heavy too soon, I think? So she's still starting up the dash animation. Generally if something doesn't come out at all, assuming you're not cancelling a move, then you're pressing too early.
Blitz is S-Tier because Blitz 4T restand is an S-Tier assist.
>>540139089Thanks that does seem to be it. I just have to wait a fraction of a second after the S1. I thought there might be some kind of buffering in place like other fighters I've played.The next part of the combo seems to be even more of a specific timing unfortunately.Starting to wonder whether this kind of combo is even worth learning at my level. If I can't even do it once in training mode after an hour of dedicated practice. How tf would I ever do it in a match.
What makes Vergil a likable S-Tier to play against vs Yasuo being an annoying S-Tier to play against?
https://x.com/Play2XKO/status/1970503435033145563
>>5401403365 champions per year confirmed, nice
>>540140241Vergil is a lot cooler.
>>540140063it gets better over time, but yeahi don't like doing that combo myselfand i'm a long-time fighting game player
The thing about tagkuso is I hate having the exact same team as a top player/streamer. It's fine when it was just a solo game but tagkuso has a lot of variables for individuality that I feel lame for copying someone else.
>5 champions a yearits over
>>540140063Yeah, her basic combos for decent damage seem a lot harder than other characters. I read you can skip the charge and just delay it instead into a standing M which might be easier but I didn't try myself.
Is Vi/Blitz really not that synergistic? Is Vi 2S2 OTG Blitz 4T restand not that good?
I thought Ahri was bottom 1?
>>540141447literally who
>>540141447she's okaypeople need to work in her airdash shit into pressure, and she'll be scarier
>>540141447She is good but her confirms are just hard to follow up sometimes and if you are not careful you will whiff and get blown up.
>>540140835>>540141131I can do an alternate one where I just follow the two dashes with H > air dash > H > S2And I can do it without fucking up about 90% of the time even if its a 'bad' combo.But a bad combo that I don't drop is always better than a good combo I constantly drop
>>540141757this is the smart mindset, and i wish my duo would adopt that
Damn 5 champions a year was a bit lower than expected for such a small roster, will take until 2027 for us to have 20 champions which would be a good number for a tag game.
>>540141447>ahri/darius top tierif that's true why am i the only person i've seen running that team? at least that is a literal who so no one will be copping my style over this
5 a year is really fast, desuevery two months is a new champ?that's kind of crazy
>>540142365I run it too! (I exclusively play private lobbies with a friend)
>>540142389people expected a few more at least on the first year to compensate for the small roster.
>>540140336The credits went way higher than 10k in that video so I guess that limit was for the beta
>>540141757What is the full combo?
>>540143013ugly ass skin.I'll buy pool party Ahri and play Teemo meanwhile.
5 characters per year.FIVE CHARACTERS PER YEARLAUNCHING WITH 10 CHARACTERS!10 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT!HAH HA HAHAHA
>>540143138slow and steady...
>No talk of balancingAAAAAAAAAA
>>540143424because it's too early to know who's actually good or not
>>540143276more like slow and completely incompetent
>>540143604This, stop defending this team. So in 12 years of dev team we still won't have 20 characters. In a tag team game lmfao.
its ok guys..no new OP...
>>540144028dead general...dead game...
>>540100031>I want teemo to be able to put down 5 minute long mushrooms you can't see, or interact with.son, that's already a thing in +r, it's not even a tag game
>>540144231i'm going to main teemostamentnot because i like that dumb midget,but because others must suffer what i've endured in +r
>no console versionThis is actual suicide so much of the FGC play on consoles
>>540144460Lol noaround 75% of Tekken 7's ranked player pool was on PCaround 75% of Strive's current ranked player base is on PC (it has crossplay)
>>540135824i wonder what mf's big guns will look like
>>540144460maybe 10 years ago
>>540142837Its the one that starts at 3:13 of this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWf7q4xLojQ>>540141863I'll work my way up to more eventually but for now yeah I'd rather just get some basic combos so I can start playing and learning the fundamentals.
>>540144623>Lol nolol yes>>540145012even if theres not as many on consoles its still a sizable chunk you're just leaving out in the cold, not to mention this is gonna be a nightmare for TOs to organize at locals and offline tournaments.
/fgg/ will welcome you all back
>>540145206>lol yes>It's the Darius spammer againLmao the Tekken one was literally the devs showing the actual split on a talk and Strive data is publicDo you just exist to spam the thread with shit bait
>>540145410>It's the Darius spammer againno it's not, I am just pointing out that consoles are part of the FGC, there are tons of players there and more, theres only drawbacks to not releasing it on consoles too, this is extra funny because the 2xko devs really claim they know and care about the FGC
>10 characters a year>seasonal ranked resets>combo trials>keeping all progression in 2 weekswhy are we dooming again? im looking forward to these new characters if they have the same polish as the rest (decent looking + fun to play vs)im hoping that the seasons have balance patches between each so we dont have stagnant dogshit patches like 90% of all fgs out there rn
>>540145848>10its 5 but its still better than 1-2 per year that other fgs have going on
>>540145848because you arent making a new op
>>540145068Thanks for sharing, bwo
>>540145848>im hoping that the seasons have balance patches between each so we dont have stagnant dogshit patches like 90% of all fgs out there rnI recall them outright saying a long time ago that they wouldn't because fighting game players don't like it.
>>540135062Ahri will struggle in neutral without an assistYou can use her projectile to try and neutral skip but it leaves her vulnerableHer best attribute is jumping, calling an assist and airdashing in or out.You really probably want to run at least sidekick
>>540146279source?
>>540146034dix gets 4 a year and people constantly doom about it
>>540145848>why are we dooming again?because this is seriously shit for a game that has been in development for 10 years and they have literally hundreds of League characters to make characters of.5 characters a year is kinda shit for a new F2P game too, this is where you go out swinging hard and drop like 8 or even 10 of the fuckers just to keep the momentum going and then go down to reasonable numbers, but you gotta do this especially with a roster of 10, other paid fighting games had shorter dev time and launched with more characters.so yes, it's not looking good.>>540146034CoTW and GBVSR has 5, Tekken 8 and SF6 are 4, 4 isn't great but at least those games had you know, decently sized base rosters.
>>540146312Fair enough, shame I don't really like the other characters though.
>>540146721>in development for 10 yearsare we not seeing the same thing that they remade the entire gameid hardly count fighting through corpo hell as development>f2p game>should have same content as paid fighters out of the gatei think you are expecting too much from a free game bwo
>>540146417the dooming there is mostly because they release two close to each other and then have a long wait and then again two close to each otherit makes it feel shittygetting 6 a year would be comfy but I'm ok with 5
>>540146721gbvsr is 4 per year, strive is 4 per year, 5 per year for free isn't amazing but it is a pretty fast clip if they supplement it with skin drops and keep it up for 4 years or so it'll pay off.Of course paid fighting games drop with more characters though. You have to spend 70 dollars to even start playing no shit you want at least 20 characters but sf6 didn't even manage that
>>540147036>are we not seeing the same thing that they remade the entire gameokay lets be fair, but that still happened what? 5 years ago? SF6 started its development in 2018 and released in 2023 with 18 characters, with a whole singleplayer mode on top of that.>id hardly count fighting through corpo hell as developmentthere were not fighting, Riot let them loose and they just fucked around for 10 years>f2p game>should have same content as paid fighters out of the gateYES It has to make a big splash, sure it doesnt need the single player mode, but it absolutely needed at least 8 more characters, the fact its so barebones and doesnt even have that many new characters on the horizon is fucking embarassing coming from a riot game, riot who has more money than capcom btw.>i think you are expecting too much from a free game bwoand I think you're trying to excuse riot and the 2xko team for being shit, literally had any other fighting game come out with 10 characters people would bitch to high heaven
>>540144460grub and strive are like 60/40 (or 70/30) pc/cons
>10 at launch>5 a year>a year in and a tag fighter that doesn't have even 16 characters.Real fucking lame. You'd think they were indie like skullgirls and not fucking riot
>>540147510You're underestimating how f2p works manLeague originally launched with seventeen charactersValorant launched with 10 characters in a 5v5 gamemode, IF you want to look at fighting games Brawlhalla launched with 5 charactersThe important thing is keeping a flow of content going, if the seasons add a lot of cosmetics on top of the champ it'll work out fine
>>540147331>gbvsr is 4 per yearno it isn't, it's 5 per year>5 per year for free isn't amazing but it is a pretty fast clip if they supplement it with skin dropsno it isn't>keep it up for 4 years at this rate they're gonna be happy if they can keep this up for 2 years>Of course paid fighting games drop with more characters though.tons of f2p drop with similar type of content or more characters than paid one, it being f2p isn't an excuse, especially when you had 5-6 years to work on this version with Riot money backing you, this is meant to be their hot new f2p game and its barely delivering more than a kickstarted game form 2013
I made a new thread >>540148004>>540148004>>540148004>>540148004>>540148004
>>540113527>it famously bricks PCsthe people on this site somehow manage to be more retarded than redditors
someone bake a new bread
>>540148020>tons of f2pname 1 shitposterGOD
>>540147947>You're underestimating how f2p works manno I know how it works.>but these other gamesdifferent games in different genres, 10 characters for a tag fighter is pitiful.>Brawlhallaalso made by an actual indie team that doesnt have the backing of literally one of the biggest gaming companies on the planet.Seriously, Riot doesn't deserve any excuses, had they or the team been competent there would've been more characters.
>>540127637>they already had a parry in this buildwait, wasnt this even before sf6
>>540148020your screenshot is 4 per year brow...
>>540148125Marvel rivals launched with 33
>>540148089guess what >>540148024
>>540148532different genre so it doesnt count according to the op
>>540148272I know the education system in america is terrible but feb 2025 to early 2026 is one year
>>540148068The downside of anonymity and free speech is that you end up taking on all the third world retards that get banned or their posts effectively scrubbed on every other site, especially as the internet becomes more homogeneous and they have nowhere else to go.
>>540148068>>540148957hows that riot dick?
>>540148950X????X?DD?Nigga. You just said "actually 4 is 5 if you count 0-1-2-3-4 thats 5 numbers"go back to school man you actual ape. thats 4 per year
>>540149186Bricked up, obviously.
>>540149252NTA, but season 1 had 6 characters at least
>>54014925280% sure 2XKO is going to do the same thing with releasing a character in late 2025 and 4 more in 2026 and call it 5 characters a year.
I kinda hate the game but I love being able to play duo with my friend
