/YourDude/ Edition>Update 10.2 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/272-hotfix-10-2-patch-notes?page=1>August Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/253-august-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks (WIP):https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinksPreviously on the Battle-Barge: >>539729802
Hey, I can see my dude there! Nice!
>>540007236Surely Emperor's Blades can afford a used Thunderhawk in mint condition?
>>540006349the bolter is a part of the techmarine's armor iirc
No Heavy or Bulwark in the weekly strategem.
>>540006349I think you can actually see the flat face helmet at the edge of the preview for the heroic tacticus chestplate for some reasonWhich is interesting because elsewhere the previews are shown alongside your currently equipped armour
>>540006892Techmarine perks.Looks pretty fun and varied in what you can do with him.
>>540008585Yeah, there are a couple of things you'll be able to do with him. Saber are such sluggish learners its painful, but I'm hoping for rework of other classes too. Give them some cool mechanics and combinations of nice perks.
>>540008585My bet is he won't have prestige perks for the first two major updates he's in
>>540008913I'd personally slot Inflammable Rage on the melee build. That way you're getting some pretty nutty low perk commitment DPS from the gun while also bonking enemies with your stick and getting buffed during the on-period.
>>540008585Is Bastion Field the first team perk that's completely conditional to where you are on the map? Everybody else it's a damage boost, or damage resistance, or restoring X health or regenerating something. I can't think of anything close to "you must stand next to this and then (ability)."
>>540007635Chapter master will be pissed but I got this one on craigslist for cheap
>stand-in-a-square section in obelisk>bulwark from another continent keeps picking up the relic
>>540010096you just know it will be pubs favourite
>>540011367Depends on how sentry turrets work desu. Like completely disregard the argument of whether you pick them up, or if they're hand-placed by the devs at specific points on the map like crates that contain ammo.Does it count as equipment regardless? Like no matter the outcome, whether it's shit I drop at my feet, or if it's tucked away in a corner at every other objective, does it proc the equipment-related perks for Techmarine? Because if it does, that whole list of equipment-based perks he has makes sense.
3 obelisks today
>>540010096it isn't. you have bulwark's banner for extra armor/health/damage (? iirc) and heavies perk which gives you something if you cling to him while the halo is activated.
How would you guys rate the operations bots per class?
>>540012751Bulwark's banner is a class ability, not a team perk. It's the same but different.>>540012797Sniper >>>>>>>> Tactical = Heavy > Mountain of shit > Bulwark >>>>>>>>>>>> Assault = Vanguard
>>540008913>>540008585I've made a more comprehensive version of what I think they intend you to do. Especially in regards to the "spray projectiles everywhere build." I think it's very much you go maximum defensive while your shoulder gun goes full Bio-Titan boss and sprays its cum globules everywhere.
>>540011561It's gonna be this, you'll be able to teleport/drop pod your turret anywhere. Or like in DoW2 where the techmarine orbital drops it.
>>540013564Except this is class ability territory and we know it's not his class ability. There is literally no free button on a gamepad to do this, so he can't get a second one either.
>being new>finally prestige 4 my first class>cant use it in the game mode i specifically prestige 4 him forfuck me
>play with tactical running free grenades>big wave spawns>throw all 3 grenades and run into meleeWorks every time
>>540013996>consoleniggers
>>540013996assault can dodge and jump with the same button. press vs hold.
>>540015198>he doesn't know
>>540015198The entire game's mechanics are constrained to gamepad, whether you hate consoles or don't. It's the reason gunstrike activates when you hipfire and isn't assigned to its own command.>>540015415Assault's a special case where they're both parts of the same ability. They're not two entirely different abilities, and I'm fairly certain there's been mention of code that the sentries are mission-based.
Finished greatest responsibility with bots as Saber intended. If your bots ran your gear and build like in Vermintide I'd probably run a lot more missions solo.
>>540015790I would like to see that code you mentioned
>>540013353If we aren't getting a loadout system with Techmarine, the devs are fucking idiots.
Does anyone have the leaks for the next batch of heroic weapons?
>>540016808you mean a loadout rework? to change the skill tree per loadout picked?
Why is Bolter Carbine so fun on Tactical bros?
>>540016808We already know the devs are fucking idiots
>>540017062That's what a loadout system means, yeah. What SM2 has is just a bunch of weapon presets, I wouldn't ever call it a loadout system when it saves nothing of importance. Not class perks, not weapon perks, not even cosmetics.
>>540017405understandable
>>540008513It's a pretty cool helmet, not gonna lie. The MkVII and the beakie, too. Such a shame that the two shoulders they added are crap.
>>540017405you will never get a "loadout" system then because you're not allowed to change perks mid mission.
Definitely feel like the Dark Angels parts are getting the most mileage in my fashion sessions, even though I don't really like Dark Angels all that much.Tactical still has fucking dogshit right shoulder options though. Not a fan of the new ones either, the one that's meant to go with this chest is a Bladeguard shoulder so it looks too big, and the other veteran shoulder looks strangely zesty.
>>540018962
>>540019220why do you hate the dark angels? serious question
so with the new speed stat is chainsword better that the epic sword?
>>540019220
>>540019465>muh secretly secretive secrets!!>wearing skirts and dresses like a girl>even the name sounds like something an 8-year-old came up with: DARK ANGELSnta but they are pretty fucking gay
>>540020028brb changing all my marines to dark angels ^_^
>>540020028>Nobody can ever know our secret!>We had... le traitors within our legion!It's like a guy being schizophrenically paranoid over how he used to beat his meat to anime femboys as a teenager and how he's all alone in his hormone induced shame.
>>540020028>>even the name sounds like something an 8-year-old came up with: DARK ANGELSall of the space marine chapters are like this
yo can anyone pls upload today's dailies? xoxo
>>540020028honestly? they have some juvenile aspects like the name, however the secrecy and mantles I see it was knighthood and monastic culture upped to 11. They're not my favorite by I don't think they're that bad, nor do I see the connection with being homo
>>540017002here ya go
>>540020521There are degrees to that. Carcharodons or Raptors or Grey Knights doesn't sound even remotely as cringe.
>>540020705>lastfusil
>>540020705>Lastfusil_nochargedWhat is this like a fucking Volkite Las?
>>540020746Not unless you call them SPACE SHARKS
>>540020746Yeah there's definitely layers to the grimdark to cringe scale.Ultramarines, as boring as they are, is kinda cute as a naming convention. I like it.
>>540020705So, for those not aware>Instigator5 round burst, will probably have all the top stats of the four variants combined, so top accuracy, max ammo, is either gonna be x2 headshot or 1.5 though. No guarantees on that.>Bolt SniperReturns 1 ammo on headshot. Basically just a super efficient bolt sniper rifle that further makes Sniper not need to worry about his econ with his secondary kill perk.>Las FusilI don't know what effect this has.
>>540025176>nocharged>I don't know what effect this has
>>540017002>>540020705Oh, I nearly forgot about melee. My bad. Here's the full list.
>>540025750nocharged means nothing, and unless you can provide the actual datamine, you don't know either. It could be a continous beam like >>540023080 said.
>>540026001not sure if you're pretending to be autistic (muh modding discord etc) or native english speakers really don't understand what this is supposed to mean
>>540026310Still not seeing a datamine explaining the weapon's effect, anon. Making assumptions just because you see nocharged is dumb. I could say it's magazine fed like a Guardsman's las rifle.
>>540026001It probably means it's rapid fire like the heroic plasma.
>>540026476so the former. fair enough. good day to you sir.
Motherfucking retards are really dying to a single fucking chaos spawn.
>>540026910pls stop cussing
>>540027116No, nigger.
>>540027116>imagine browsing 4chan with a screen readerhitler did nothing wrong
>>540025760>that Thunder Hammer perkoh lawd. now if only they made a one-handed variant with such a perk.
>>540025760That heavy bolter sounds neat, i wonder what hilarious downsides it will have when you're not perfect parrying frequently.
Even Fatshark implemented a gate to higher difficulties by having you clear a number of missions in the previous difficulty to even have access to the next difficulty. Either that or they can remove the EXP payout on Absolute so idiots can stop getting carried.
>>540025750Well, is it going to have rapid fire? Will be it a continuous beam instead? Who knows. The fire rate relic las fusil already can fire basically without charging and very quickly already. How will heroic versio top that, if it can at all
>>540027410Yeah the Thunder Hammer is the clear winner there. Like that's an ability that's insanely useful outside of combat, especially against Tyranids, because Tyranids funnel through specific parts of the map. If you know where they're gonna spawn from, you can pre-emptively Aftershock and cut that part off with a free shock grenade. If it works with Assault's ground pound, that's also a massive boost to the class.
>>540027987>How will heroic versio top that, if it can at allBy being click and to shoot like a bolter.
Will the shock grenade effect damage me though? If it's safe like the Bulwark's parry perks then it might actually be worth running a balanced weapon.
>>540028252I can't believe we're getting a helgun before Darktide got one.
>>540028252I think we should stop replying. It's useless. We'll see when they find the string in the next release.
>>540026910Most players are just spamming roll slop or mashing their parry button in panic instead of learning enemy moveset.
>>540028537It doesn't matter, they are following the lore pretty tightly, unless it's a lore accurate melta a continious laser beam lascannon or lasfusil doesn't exist, it's simply gonna do what it's written it does, no. charge.
>>540028304Thunder Hammer, like the Power Fist, should be ran as balanced because of the cleave. The difference between having cleave and no cleave on these two is night and day. Power Fist especially mulches hordes on balanced. So if both Relic variants are balanced, it's not a loss at all.
>>540011204I did an obelisk last night that refused to show me objective markers or indicators for where the stand in a squares wereThere were no squares for anyone
>>540028304>Will the shock grenade effect damage me though?I don't see why it would? Neither of Bulwark's abilities that proc them do that. It's only grenades thrown as equipment that harm you.
>they said they're making big changes to the customization but didn't do shit, the customization is still pure ass
>>540029420I could try to explain in broken english but i'd prefer if someone else did.
>>540030310They said more was coming down the line. The Champion skin stuff was just pro bono.
So how is Assault for this week's weekly?
It wasn't mentioned, but they've fixed the decal distortion on the two shoulders in the Heroic shop. There's still a little bit of curvature, but it's nowhere near as severe as it was before.
>>540029702I just expect new things to not work properly.
>>540030984More as in more items or actual systemic changes? I believe the former, not the latter.
>>540006892Can I get Iron Hands #2 updated for the Dude Wall
>>540031201I think it was the other shoulder that was really fucked upalso>didn't fix the typofucking lmao
>>540031302I mean more items are a given, but some stuff is meant to be changing. Who knows what? It's definitely not going to be a complete system overhaul.
The only reason we beat this obelisk hard was because we bugged and despawned the 1st boss and a second never spawned kek.
>>540023080If I had to guess it would just be an instant shot like the bolt rifle
>>540031520a clear is a clear.
>>540031465Nah, the shoulder I posted was really, REALLY bad before it was changed. The veteran icon I used there was squashed inward and drooping downward before it was fixed.
>>540031201>dark green and white are a good looking color combination>dont want to play as a faggot dangel
>>540007635Hey chief, do you mind if I get all my classes into the Emperor's Blades roster?
>>540031832Sons of Medusa will be here by like May, hold on anon.
>>540027651The big funny downside is that it is a heavy bolter, which is a windup weapon. If you are fishing for parries to cool it down then you are constantly pausing your firing. Not to mention having to go in and out of heavy stance a lot more than the traditional playstyle, which is definitely going to cause you to eat an unparryable at some point.
I had a dream about getting fucked by a Ravener
Nidders gonna get ANOTHER boss when chaos is still stuck with only one field boss variation......
>>540027116kek
>>540033189
>Obelisk>it's another nigger who keeps putting the chalice on the pedestal>it's another nigger who takes the chalice and runs far away from the group while there are a pack of enemies>it's another nigger who can't find the Techmarine or the switch
>>540033702i do those
>>540033189I'm claiming lictor.
>>540033702>it's another nigger who keeps putting the chalice on the pedestalwhat's wrong with putting the chalice on the pedestal when being attacked?
>>540034121anon, that's just furry porn.
>instead of using your stupid class ability like Auspex or Iron Halo you can use the gene seed ability of your chapter on a longer cooldownImperial Fists - beefy defensive buffBlood Angels - gay vampire modeWhite Scars - call in a fiery jetbike to explodeSalamanders - guard regiment shows up to fightUltramarines - infinite ammo/equipment
every single game
>>540034121>>540033676Sex
>>540031415Brother, please post a full screenshot.
>>540034482>Blood Angels - gay vampire modegay mode would be the dark angels
I don't care about karak desert, but it's crazy we've had so many dlcs and not a single light brown color.
>>540035098what weapon are you using assaultbro?
>>540035534*karak stone
Sigh time to carry another batch of shitters kicking and screaming to the victory screen on the hard weekly as the only tac player who knows that the flamer is the best boss killing weapon. (When i dont play tac the retard tac players hide from bosses with theyr flamers or just melee :D)
>>540036567That's what I did, but then you are kiting the boss, plus extremis, plus majorities while the other 2 retards die against literal air.
>>540034267Do not pretend to project your heretical proclivities unto me, furnigger.That's a monstergirl.
>>540025760>heavy fucking bolter gets an increased parry windowI feel like soon I will see heavies parrying more than I do.
>>540037014sure anon, if it helps you to sleep at night...
>>540037014That's also heresy.
>>540035656fistting block
>>540037108there's already an extended parry window prestige perk. I find it hilarious when we get swarmed by chaos spawns and i end up being the only person who didn't miss any parries.
>>540035098Classic assault stat pad by running ahead to jetpack stomp groups of idling enemies but take shit load of damage and resources when the shit hit the fans and real fights happen
>>540038892you must have been the gigashitter bulwark who was clearly carriedI bet you picked up the tac and left the assault to die out of sheer seethe
If balanced had the same window as block, nobody would have an issue with it.
>>540039898Why would balance have the same window as block?
>>540040196Because the idea of a delayed 160ms window at the start of a parry is fucking stupid and almost no game worth a damn has ever done that. Parries are meant to be tight and on-reaction, and the only thing even close to that is block.
>>540040196>How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>540040772That's basically soulborne parry. Even sekiro feels a bit delayed. Parry in DMC is the same (non royal guard parry) because you need your attack to clash with enemy's attack and your attack doesn't come out at 0 frame. If you parry too late in sm2 then you get a regular block which is not too punishing.
>>540035403
>>540006892Sons of Horus for the Dude Wall
>>540042448What the fuck is that resolution?
Heroic heavy plasma seems decent, but the ammo economy doesn't look like it's worth it on higher difficulties.
>>540044063It has no issue on higher diff unless you are doing solo
>>540044063i´m still mad that they gave heavy a bootleg 1mag execution ammo refund prestigeperk. you have a low chance to actually get executes most of the time, since you kill them from mid/long range and the vanguard will just E them before you can get any. still hoping that they fucking remove the retarded melee perks one day.
>prestiged everything to max>played all the missions with a friend on low difficulties>come back from work>realize that i´m burned outsee you next patch i guess
>>540044063>Heavy>only the Heavy bolter has near unlimited ammo >you have to melee kill an Extremis to get one (1) magazine's worth of ammo backHeavy's guns should have Deep Pockets by default and instead of Extremis executes, the Heavy deserves Emperor's Vengeance.
>>540036567Ez 2 bosses total one with 3 minigun niggas and then after killing them 2 sorcerer niggas. One battle brother aggros boss and holds it and i just flame the helbrute from behind while the 3rd deals with the spawns.
Well I can say this, Absolute feels fucking piss easy now. Hard Strat was like jumping from weights I could barely ten rep to weights I couldn't even budge.
MAGAZINE INMAGAZINE OUT
>>540013353It's like Techmarine was made by an entirely different team outside of Saber. Either that of they've slowly learned how to make actual perks. What I'm seeing here is way more fun and varied than the shit we have now.
>>540047516What's the matter anon, don't you like "just do extra damage" or "take less damage"?
>great responsibility on inferno hard>Heavy running bond of brother hood and was the VIP>finally got to a stim>he use the stim before going down and getting wounded>go down anyway>no longer have stim to recover wound even when he get revived at full hp>die next fight and fail the mission
>>540048284>doing any great responsibility stratagem
>>540042448>>540042612Received.
>siege mode a complete ghost town>stratagems already dying, playerbase has been complaining about them for three weeks straightMaybe after being 0/2 on new game modes, they'll cut it out and just go back to just making Operations, the only game mode that's been a success.
>>540049826PvP was a mistakeSiege was a mistake and only exists because ten people whined the game lacked an SM1 modeSM3 better be streamlined purely for Ops with actually good modifiers once they learn to filter out the bad ones.
Is first tour guardsman worth listening to
>>540050806i looked at a video and it was long and boring. the game is really just about memorizing attack animations, then you can use what ever weapons you want, i dont think you need a guide for anything
>>540050110>PvP was a mistakeTrue.>Siege was a mistake and only exists because ten people whined the game lacked an SM1 mode>*Siege in its state was a mistakeftfy. The only reason it sucks and people rightfully shit on it is because someone thought that a 2-3 hour commitment to a mode where you have: one map, nonexistent to barebones mechanics (tacked on streaks and class objectives that sometimes can't be completed), dry content that you need to grind for ad nauseam, is somehow going to be a hit when the only hit was the one taken from a rolled up joined some crackhead dev smuggled on a meeting the day siege mode was "planned" out.It was an easy concept to take SM1's Exterminatus and build upon it + make an extensive unlocks system for a mode so that people actually want to play. If only they had coders as talented as graphics designers the things would've been turned around in a matter of weeks maybe a quarter of a year. They need to invest in better workforce on that front.
>>540050806If you're not an ADHD zoomer like >>540051229, the advice he gives is pretty solid and he backs it up with gameplay of him actually succeeding in solo hardest difficulty runs.
>>540050806certainly a good player. sometimes i think his builds are suboptimal, but i also learned a lot of gimmicks from those videos
Do any perks or stats influence the startup window of balanced parry weapons?
>>540052212don't think so
>>540052212increased window
>most of the playerbase can't even do Hard stratagems because they're scaled at Absolute++>Dailies are randomly generated by a bot so you get contradictory modifiers or ones that render the map unbeatable (no equipment on Exfil)>no level gating on the most difficult content in the game so it's filled with naive lowbies who don't know they're 100% going to wipe>hidden modifier bullshit because those dumb fuck Slavs didn't realize their UI could only show fourThis was the biggest content update the game was ever going to get and it blows. Only thing left between now and SM3 is a couple of skins.
>>540052212Isn't that what Duellist does?
>>540053081It extends the window after, not before. So of all the options you have, it literally only benefits Block. Fencing's window is so massive that if you need to buff it with Duellist and such, you're a Jewish lack of timing tier shitter.
>>540049826while they're at it, make the new operations have actual ambient monsters
>>540042612Nooooo , you can't make a Chaos Warband marine!!!! Think of the operations! Ultramarines only! (and a bunch of non-smurf legions)
>>540025760>heroic power fist + armoUr reinforcementthat's a lotta armoUr
wait are the fucking prestige perks permanent? you cant swap them out?
Why is Gravis the only variant with a good butt-plate?
>>540054318you can once you reach rank 4 prestige but it costs req points
>>540054318I just got the first one recently and I think the game said I will be able to swap them out only once I unlock all prestige levels.
>>540035098>max damage takenyou probably arent as good as you think you are, just adept at killing things before others have a chance to shoot at them it seems
>>540054318once you get prestige 4 you can pay 800 req to swap them
>>540055229why must everything be a fucking carrot on a stick manual player retention device nowi should have like 50k req for this shit but they capped it for that bullshit. fucking niggerfuck retard dev cunts
>>540053435come on ambull
Terminator doko
>>540051867>the only hit was the one taken from a rolled up joined some crackhead dev smuggled on a meeting the day siege mode was "planned" out.Made me chuckle. But I agree with the sentiment. They fucked up pretty much a concept for a game that should practically sell itself. I would add that I'm still waiting for customization overhaul. 10.0 only gave us more cosmetic pieces but no meaningful customization. And where the fuck are tabards from champion skins saber, you know, ones I can recolor and why can't I recolor waist belts etc.?
chaos spawns a fucking huge nerf to sniper holy shit
>>540054975Shush, if you arent killing things as fast as possible youre playing suboptimally and are literally dragging your team down
>>540048708so uhhh what are the requirements to be in the dude wall?
>>540054975Don't worry, once they add apothecaries you will see more people playing like that.>ned heal plz11
>>540055667You have to send a true solo absolute clear video to wallanon, his discord handle is in the faq
>>540055807>omg heel me u nub
>>540055428No, not you again...
>>540010115I'm sure it's been anointed in sacred oils by your Techpriest and no issues with machine spirit have been found, Brother.
>>540055620Have faith, sniper, we are all bleeding.
How would you anons feel about a SM2 style Eldar game where you have different aspect warriors and fight chaos/necrons/nids
>>540056965nah, soulless, like all aeldari are
>>540055657if you are taking any damage at all you are playing suboptimally
>>540057184>t. bulwark
>>540056965I'd play it, maybe make the combat more agile
>>540055380none of the currencies should have a cap, it's insane. the devs played too many shitty MMOs and ported over a bunch of systems that don't make any sense for this game.
Looks like the weekly hard stratagem is too hard for the playerbase. Looks like I will have to do it with bots.
>>540056965Indifferent.
>>540056965Just make a warlock game that's basically jedi knight and it's done, extremely easy.
>>540056802its absolutely the worst for sniper though
so which DLCs does /sm2g/ have?for me it's:>Raven Guard cosmetic pack>Imperial Fists cosmetic pack
>>540057362How? its just buffed absolute but no bulwark or heavy
>>540057951i dont buy hats
>>540057290I bet they are all zoomers who never even played the baseline of how to make a successful MMO - World of Warcraft (vanilla), where the only currency cap was due to currency being stored as a 32-bit integer (2147483647).
>>540057986>helbrute spawns>terminator spawns 30 miles away flanked by 6 marines and a sorcerer and starts spewing rockets at you>kill the terminator>another spawns behind you
>>540057362I've been trying for two hours and not had a single one where somebody didn't get a mortal wound and/or leave before the first elevator. They all end before getting to the moving platforms, everybody leaves after the first guy dies. It's mostly low-levels, I barely see other prestige 4 25 players.I only have cosmetics left to get and I think I'm giving up on these. They aren't worth it, they aren't fun, and they aren't even possible with this playerbase most of the time. Great new patch, Saber, I'm sure those metrics are amazing.
>>540057986Exactly, you get these fucking retarded Assault and Vanguard players.
is there a way to turn off the hud without selecting every option off, like a keybind? for photo mode want to take some kino screenshots
>>540058197i forgot to add: 8 chaos spawns appear behind the sorcerer
>>540057951I have Imperial Fists, Imperial Fist Champion, Black Templars, White Scars, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Raven Guard, Dark Angels, Ultramarines, Salamanders Champion and 4K textures.
>>540055868I contributed to the thread by posting this >>539761227. Is it a good enough conttribution? I haven't attempted a solo absolute clear, but I did reach wave 10 with bots, only to get screwed by the timer >>539812278. Honestly, I can easily see myself clearing absolute solo without bots, especially with the usage of cloak-cancel. Why is no one talking about how OP cloak-cancelling is? Granted, I only learned about it recently.>>540055620>>540057676I usually just melee them and build up Adrenaline Surge with my block knife. The trick to blocking Chaos Spawns effectively is to block the first swipe, immediately backhop, then either block the next attack or melee them with your two stacks of Adrenaline Surge. If it's the horn variation, you don't need to backhop. You just have to watch out for his delayed attacks. They are pretty easy to deal with once you learn their timing and cues.
>>540058353One of the marines immediately starts calling for reinforcements.
>>540058791>just spend your whole time fucking blocking and meleeing the chaos spawns instead of providing support for your team its not a big deal brohow is this not an absolute castration of the class that would previously immediately incapacitate every majoris in sight from any angle
>>540058325>Hear Helbrute>Spawn in>50% health missing instantly because Terminator was killing me before I loaded in>Throw grenade>Die>Grenade despawnsBravo Sabre. You have graduated from the Gaijin Entertainment college of excellence.
>>540059247You died before you could pull the pin, bro.
>>540058791>Is it a good enough conttribution?My guy got prankedThere is no requirement, just need to submit a valid pic which yours looks to be. You should mention wallanon though so he can find your post easier, and technically you should also mention that it's a raven guard submission.
So, since we are definitely getting a healing class with apothecary eventually, is it finally time for Bulwark to get a taunt? Or two (one ST and one AOE, maybe tied to banner)? And something to passively increase aggro from his attacks?
>>540059247I've loaded into FOUR fucking Hellbrute fights where I'm already the last man standing. I tried the first time but learned my lesson and now leave immediately.
>terminator grab somehow gets me mid dodge>hellbrute fucking kills me as i'm standing upfuck this
>>540059557some kind of aggro management mechanic would do something about these chaos spawns
>>540058791Cloak cancel is solid but sniper can struggle with boss even with cloak cancel, which is the limitation for your solo capability.
Why
>>540059123Well, you take out as much chaos marine and flying tzaangor as you can but sometimes you gotta deal with chaos spawn too and block knife or cloak meme charge is a solid solution for sniper.
>>540059998skull
>>540059123I can understand where you're coming from. I wish the Chaos Spawn’s headshot hitbox was bigger. Even then, they feel like such bullet sponges. Them and the blue guy flying with his disc are the only enemies I find hard to land headshots on.>>540059806Yeah, I can see how difficult it would be to fight the Mutalith Vortex Beast solo with all the projectile spam going on.>>540060048This is what I do.
>ordered the vallejo game color introduction set and a small skin color set>and 20+ chaos minis from etsy for cheapWanted to get back into minis so yeah I think it's a "we're so back" situation
>>540059998The only issue I see is that the decal is misaligned with the skull. I assume this is as close as he could get to a proper crux terminatus.
>hard strat solo>mortal wound but 2 helbrutes down and just before the end>start glowing red, salvation is near>the aoe damages a barrel and kills mei am FUMING
>>540059801Exactly. All they need to do after is increase Bulwark damage resistance, as well as increase damage caused by and health of all enemies. Then they could increase squad size to 5, so that you are forced to take a tank, a healer and 3 dps. They should also make bosses drop random loot that is sometimes class-restricted, but everyone can roll for. Ahh, it would be just like playing an MMO, including being unable to find a tank, farming rare drops and then getting them ninjaed.
>>540060434Classic Enperor's blessing
>>540060880>Turn the game into MMO with tank/dps/healerThat shit gay
i might unironically use fencing axe over balanced. getting parry stunned by minoris sucks
I use whatever weapon I feel like that looks cool and fits with what I think is the chapter of the marine I'm playing with. Stats? Don't give a shit.
>>540061364based
>>540055667>>540058791Received, Brother. Your contribution is admirable, you're a credit to the thread. There are no requirements however, as >>540059494 mentioned, other than posting Your Dude in a full screenshot format from the preview mode.
Remember that time a Crimson Fists scout disobeyed a direct order because he felt the need to prove he had the biggest dick in the room but all he accomplished was getting his captain killed? Remember when they asked him what the fuck he was thinking and he responded with "and I'll fucken do it again" so they turned him into a servitor?
>>540062303I too wish to be able turn some retard rando i get matched with into servitors
>>540057951I got the Raven Guard pack for the beakie. Don't like them otherwise.I almost like Blood Angels ever since I played Battlesector and watched some youtube thing about the nidders dabbing on Baal but I think their pack is just garbage so I skipped it.I'd like to have Blood Ravens and more Ultramarines stuff. They're cool without being too edgy or cringe, and don't look like clowns either (e.g. impfists).
>>540063032>watched some youtube thing about the nidders dabbing on BaalFor fuck's sake, anon.
I was thinking of putting some honour badges I unlocked on my Raven Guard, but I’ve heard they usually avoid heraldic markings. I need to find another Chapter that loves to show off. I’m guessing the Blood Angels are probably the best bet.>>540059494>>540061771Thanks, brothers. For the Emperor.
>>540063032Im only dissapointed that the cool raven guard pauldron is on the left blocking the rank.However imperial fists look nice to me, wouldnt categorize them as clowns personally
>teammate puts down Melta bomb>The Emperor Protects goes off and sets off the bomb>instantly kills meThey are not good at their jobs and this isn't a good game.
>>540065908emperor protects also destroys nearby barrels, so gotta watch out for those too
>>540051913>sometimes suboptimallike what?
I don't watch youtubers play SM2 but I had this one guy telling me the shock grenade signature perk for Bulwark was the best one and that everybody who was good at the game on Youtube was using it. Meanwhile I was locked in on Armored Advance since I got to level 25.
>>540067037I like defensive mastery but perhaps if you play solo, then the shock is better due to the sheer amount of enemies you have to deal with and they are all aggro'ed toward.
>>540066719nitpicky stuff. often times i think "i´d go top row there instead of bottom" and i prefer 1shott stomping instead of minoris stomping on assault. i did not mean that there are greviously bad builds he plays. he is certainly really good and well informed on the game.
>>540067037i use the free shock grenade offensively
I find that its simply impossible to do the mutalith vortex beast with randoms, chaos is just too much of a slog atm
>>540068107Yea, the problem when not playing solo is that enemies are all scattered aggroing different players so a few actually go on your shock pool when it activates. If you are playing solo, pretty much every enemies are on you and will be in the pool when it get proc'ed
So is he a good guy or a bad guy?
I'm fucking done with this shit ass game. The people that play it are the dumbest fucking retards I've ever seen in my life, holy shit
>>540068574Why do you guys never post codes and play with each other? 10 months ago people used to post codes but nobody posts them here anymore.
>>540068568Is he?
>>540068574the game on harder difficulties breaks what the game is supposed to be - a power fantasy. Most players can power through easier difficulties without ever learning to parry or dodge but as soon as you up the diff you'll notice it. Combined with crossplay which pairs you up with console peasants meaning essentialy their ranged weapons are useless since they're not landing headshots 90% of the timeI too wish they'd gone something of a Helldivers 2 route with numerically more enemies but much "easier" to clear
i swear this game just spawned 10 fucking chaos spawns instead of minoris because of a bug or something
>>540069116But 40k is grim dark, not "power fantasy"
>>540069116>game is supposed to be - a power fantasythere is always a loud minority claiming that in every game and i´m sick of it
>>540070297That is basically translated to: I die too easily and enemies are too difficult to kill on high difficulty
>>540069327The director has been on some shit lately for me too, especially on chaosIt feels like the wave happens and then just keeps spawning for entire minutes and faster than we can kill it, until eventually the sheer volume of majoris enemies locks you down so extremis enemies can slip through defenses
>>540070297Except many of those games explicitly sold themselves as such and are outright betraying their roots by not fulfilling part of that fantasy.Helldivers 1 was a game where you could wield a railgun as your basic primary and it blew through everything but bosses, the skill was always managing the horde through superior firepower that could just as easily blow up you or your friends, not in having a dozen super heavies spawn that each take 10 seconds minimum to kill
Anyone else getting weird graphical errors since the hotfix?
>>540070532You simply lack horde management if you can't handle the super heavy spawn. You can spam airstrikes and bombs in that game after all
>>540070776And at the time when people were complaining about it those airstrikes and bombs were nowhere near good enough to handle the literal dozens of superheavies every mission through at you
>>540070176Being a primaris marine equipped with the imperium's finest bolters you should be able to take down a tyranid warrior with 2-3 shots and a chainsword slash not have to dance around him like a jester and put 30 bolter rounds in himthe problem happens when you jump into higher difficulties, most players cant parry or dodge right which is what the higher diff is about
>>540071080And you should get 1-2 shot by any enemy attack as well if you want to be "lore" accurate
>>540006892>So many Blood Ravens>Teehee magpies haha steal stuff hecking quirk chungusBy the Throne you guys are so fucking gay.
>>540071396People will pretend this isnt kino
>>540017207I don't know but I never fucked with it until last week, and I guess I never knew how much a super fast cqc bolter meshes with my playstyle. Big fan now.
>>540071423The reason Ravens are popular is because DoW1 is a classic, their lore has been untouched by GWS and their colour scheme is fantastic. The stealing part is whatever, no one really cares. They're a safe faction to like because GWS isnt going to come along and suddenly make them a bunch of mary sues like they did with Ultras.
>>540071571Yea, the game would be a cover shooter then.
So when are they going to add a breastplate with a skull and crossbones on it? Or a plain breastplate without any gold ornaments attached. I need lore-accurate Phobos Armour.
>>540071972That looks so lame, holy shit.
>disable crossplay>game experience improves
>>540072064B-but most the Phobos Armour I’ve seen online is either plain or has the skull and crossbones on the breastplate...
>>540070297>>540069116Different take: the solution to make SM2 feel good was adding gore/gibbing, like solider of fortune had.The reason why melee and shooting feels bad is there is no feedback. When you shoot an arm, it doesnt fly off. I think most people here would be happy with the current balance if the feedback was better. And this goes to the heart of why Saber screw up, they're perfectionist in some areas like art (i.e. cutting the ability to see your weapons on your body due to minor clipping) and wouldnt accept sometimes janky or odd animations/models due to gibbing, but the benefit to players gameplay would have been dramatically higher to swing a power sword and see it slice off heads/legs/arms and leave behind blankets of body parts. Its also why Chaos sucks so much, they're literally empty.
thank you underleveled vanguard for bringing your purple melta gun to an extra majoris strategem
>>540070865>throughthrew*
>>540071775Which is lore/tabletop accurate. Space marines use cover.
>>540072608i do that. was it me?
>>540071396Yes and? The point is not what is lore accurate actually but why harder difficulties are stacked with bad teammates. The point is most players just want to click on bugs and watch them to splat when the reality is that high d is a parry and dodge check game - something your teammates will be bad at because there is no real matchmaking or any sort of check meaning anyone can que up
>>540071972>PhobosI hate this armor like you wouldn't believe.
>mid execute animation on a terminator>helbrute switches to me and fires a charged plasma shot just as the animation ends>instantly diethank you game
>>540073132care to expound?
>Trying to do Hard Stratagem>Have joined/left six games because either got disconnected or there was a level 1 to 25 (no prestige) This is why you don't fucking put in new currencies in hard difficulties because everyone including the retards will try to do it, making it impossible for people to play it
>try heavy's new heroic plasma>hey that's pretty good>could prob use a 10% damage nerf>oh yeah i havent tried tac's common shot plasma since release>maybe its not so bad now and I've just overlooked it>load up the kit>head in to mission>its absolute garbage>utterly worthless>mfw
what redditor told tacticals to run the contested health team perk and why am I seeing more of it
On the subject of lore accuracy and space marines using cover, I find it hilarious that chapters send terminator armor into space hulks.They know that whatever nasties are in there can shred through this armor, that is nearly priceless, like it's paper, and then they deploy it anyways because reasons.
>>540075242>could prob use a 10% damage nerfActhsuahlly, the heavy plasma heroic is half the DPS of the normal plasma charged shot build. So it needs a massive buff.
>>540075486The only time it is legitimate is on no equipment modifier. It is better than aligned aim at least
>>540075698What kind of shitty dps calculator are you looking at
I use Heavy Bolt Rifle on everything
what's the better option here for 1st prestige? I'm thinking the headshot damage is better but whiffing auspex seems useful too
>>540076692Acuity
>>540076692acuity always
>>540076291with or without the optic?
>be in launch bay>host leaves>load back in>fps drops by 50+nice fucking game
>>540075698>Acthsuahlly, the heavy plasma heroic is half the DPS of the normal plasma charged shot build. So it needs a massive buff.>t.
combi melta is actually kinda fun
>>540075698>bro i tested it by magdumping a carnifex standing still until it overheated that makes it worseIt isn't even better but I can tell you chose the dumbest test method possible that ignored ammo economy, splash damage, and ability to charge shots uninterrupted
>>540077242>>540076593>>540075873ACTHUSUALLYhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/vOs8_kMBZoM
>>540077828It does make it worse, HALF the DPS in fact. Cope.
>>540077851
>>540078048>Option A: 100 Damage in 10 seconds>Option B: 50 Damage in 10 seconds>ACSTHUAYLL THE AMMO THE SPLASH THE UNINTERUPT THE ENJOY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>540077927>if i ignore all the weapon perks that are way better on it and test it in an environment you'll never possibly see (the ability to stand completely still and do nothing but charge shots) and ignore that i've run out of ammo on one but not the other its worse!
>>540077851hm
Plasma or heavy bolter pistol? Which is better as a secondary?
>>540078175>If I ignore what I don't like and pretend this other stuff is relevant it'll make it good!Im sorry anon, you're full of the cope. Heavy doesn't run out of ammo, don't want to get interrupted? Get good. Splash? Bigger on charged shots. DPS? TWICE as much with a normal plasma over Heroic. The facts are facts, your cope is cope, consider the rope you silly dope. >>540078334This is the flat earther confirming the earth is round ignoring the evidence in front of him. We can do this game with every single Heroic.
dps is for retardsdo you think you're hitting a fucking stationary target dummy all game or something
>>540078431>uses his favorite epic youtuber for evidence but ignores what he sayslol
>>540078412They're both good for different reasons and you can enjoy either.
>>540078504>Uses a factual video showing the difference in DPS and then attempts to rely on an appeal of authority argument instead of the actual math Silly dope consider the rope instead of such cope
>>540077041The one with 9+ damage
>>540078431>Heavy doesn't run out of ammolol yes he does, only heavy bolter can keep firing forever, heavy plasma drains juice like nobody's business.>splashless efficient on charged shots unless you're sacrifice multiple perks for charged shot cost reduction (which also isn't factored into that vid)>DPSirrelevant on a burst damage weapon that's setting majoris to execute before you're even halfway overheated, especially on bosses which you genuinely should not be shooting at with plasma
>>540078504The heroic takes 21 seconds to achieve what a Relic version does in 12. While I get the whole argument over being interrupted/dodging decreasing damage/having to plant in order to shoot its a wild damage difference to have considering the penultimate weapon is objectively better than the ultimate weapon when it comes to actual damage. You could argue they're balanced or the Heroic is weaker but not that the Heroic is better.
>>540078776C O P E
>>540078412Both are solid picks. Plasma's splash and reliable stagger generally make it better for ranged heavy classes so they can have a back pocket stun they don't need to reload (and boost their melee game with AoE gunstrikes) while melee ones want to keep HBP so they can actually shoot down flying stuff with headshots when they need to but nobody would criticize you for taking either.
>>540078412HBP is nice because its basically a primary in your pocket that is reliable against everything. The Plasma brings in a reliable stun if you need that sort of thing because you're bad.
>>540078412plasmahits harder and has great chp recovery
someone must be really used to posting and arguing on reddit to pull out le fallacies and "u r teh flat earther" expecting that to make someone stop dead in the tracks and gasp anyways you're a brown nigger and you barely even play the game you're just here for reddit gold screenshots so have this one on me Raj
>>540079171>Loses argument>Does the "i wont reply but im mad so ill reply to nothing" I accept your concession with glee coper.
>>540078412I prefer the heavy bolter
>>540079284my concession that you're a raging indian while I smash through the hardest content in the game with the heroic plasma without breaking a sweat? sure feel soooooo hard but it might be if you're a rajeet with curry stuck between your fingers and an unwashed ass sticking to your chair
>>540079703I accept your concession and as the only white man in this conversation I will let you reply last because I like giving minorities such as yourself a pat on the back every once and a while. Relic Plasma > Heroic Plasma
Ok im convinced, the heroic chainsword is the only good relic>Heavy > Heavy has giant cleave and great damage making it good against everything>Light > Heavy > Heavy is faster then the default Light > Light > Light > Heavy for access to stomps Its a shame you can't double stop with the heavy combo but it feels like a Heroic version of the basic weapon, new moveset, better damage, different combos. The only thing I don't know is how Full Throttle works (or doesn't) with the Heroic, anyone know?
>Tacts running HBR instead of plasma in the weekly hardWhat the fuck is wrong with these people
>>540081048>reddit spacing
>>540082041>retard posting
>>540082041>NewfagPosting with spaces was a thing before reddit existed you self-defeating retard
>as the only white man in this conversation
>>540082000they play on substantial, maybe ruthless at best, and then don't understand how fucked they are to be jumping straight to absolute+
>>540082000why not pyre
>>540082000Because I need to hit headshots
>>540081473>balancenever evergimme block or fencing not the useless variation
>>540082504It does exactly what block wishes it could do, which is AoE explode everything easily and consistently without having to sit there fishing for blocks. Its definitely just an upgrade over it. Fencing has better survivability but only barely also skill issue.
>>540082000>Level 10 Tact>Using a normal bolter>And no equipment regen >Joins my hard strata mid mission replacing the Heavy AITrust me it could be worse
>>540077851That is the fast charge version but you use 80% of your ammo for the same damage for like 30% of ammo for the heroic version. The ammo charge version is slower and a bit more efficient but you get raped on high difficulty when enemies close in on you.
>>540082000>using plasmalol, its all about flamer
>>540083063>>540082445Can the flamer even reliably recover CHP?
>>540083224no
>>540083224That's what the HBP is for
>>540083224yes>get shot>recover immediately because youre hitting many targets>also burn ticksyoure more tanky than you should be, which is exactly what tact needs
>>540083224Yes, more than any other weapon against a horde its OP as fuck. It also cant run out of ammo on Tact ever.
>>540083475>>540083904CHP recovery only works if you're already dealing damage with flamer. It takes way too long to start up if you've already taken the hit
>>540084480Then you would be getting your CHP back from your melee/side arm wouldn't you anon.
>>540065026It’s not blocking the rank, it is the rank. It’s for Close Support.
I lucked out on the Weekly Hard.I joined up right at the end of the console awakening section. It was getting hairy too since the tact was dead but we pulled through.
whose grand idea was it to fucking reset all the perks when levelling prestige
>>540088687Outdated Saber game design theory that a game is only played if you put in a pointless stat increase or reset progress
>>540088687
>>540088687The original idea of the person who originally invented the concept of "prestiging" a levelable game character.
>>540078412This is in fact an Inceptor joke and everyone missed it.
>>540091918pedant
Are any of the other bolters besides stalker bolt rifle any good for tactical?
=>>540093602Bolt Carbine is kino
>>540093602If its single shot its good is my basic rule
SM3 is going to involve Titus either being sent up to the victrix guard or getting his old spot back because Acheran croaked.
>>540093602HBR
>>540095427>Acheranwhat did he do wrong
>>540095427Necrons.
>>540093602Regular accuracy bolt rifle has a 2x headshot multiplier and that doubled with headshot perks and the kraken bolt perk that grants extra piercing makes it one of the best bolters in the game. It's an automatic stalker bolt rifle.
>>540095427More like Acheran gets promoted by the Primarch to become his advisor leaving the spot open with Leandros suggesting Titus gets his old job back but he is still under suspicion for potential corruption and must prove himself to the Ultramarines.
4th Company bumping the thread.
>>540100107And then Leandros and Titus make up and share a brotherly hug.
>>540089043fucking cypriots
Ran like 10 Decapitation missions and half of them had a terminus spawn at the elevator.Why is it always there and not the places I want to it to spawn?
>>540057951I own all of them, because fashion is the true endgame of SM2.
>>540057951I bought the 100 dollar version and then the second season pass so I have everything.
>>540057951Raven Guard for beak helmBlack Templar Champ for the sword and helmetImperial Fist Champ for the helmetMight end up buying the Dark Angels one for the hoods.
>>540057951Just season 1, season 2 is a scam
>>540106553Well in the context of right now yeah, Y1 was called a scam when it released as well. These things gain their value over time.
>>540106975>SM1 launched with full free color customizationBoth are a scam, I just fell for the first one, there is no excuse to fall for the second.
>>540057951I have all of them since I love to have all pieces available for the dress up mini game (as crippled and barebones as it is).
>>540107230>Blood Angels champion>Raven Guard champion>Raptors packEverything else is a bonus.
>>540056965The way the game plays with gunstrikes and dodgerolling constantly and melee duels, this game would have fit infinitely better playing as eldar than space marines.
>rubric marine calls for reinforcements>shoot him a couple times in the head with a bolt pistol to stagger him>chaos spawn calls for reinforcements>entire squad wailing on him with heavy attacks for the entire duration fails to stagger him
>>540108731but did you learn your lesson?
>>540108731Chaos Spawn made plasma mandatory, it's the only way to stagger them fast enough and it still sometimes takes 2 charged shots for some fucking reason.
I like how the love for the MK8 went out the window the moment the MK7 dropped and now everybody agrees the former looks like a pudgy pig.
>>540057951I bought both season passes but ended up only playing Raven Guard. I'm glad the Raptors and Space Sharks will get their own packs tho, will make some of my marines with their heraldry later.
>>540110130until they release a clean version I will stick to the beakie tho
i havent played this game since release. I went hard into the PvE modes back then and am only interested in that. How different is the game now? is there a lot of new content to dig into?
>>540111291Since release>Volkite Pistol>Inferno Pistol>Pyreblaster>Pyrecannon>Power Axe>Biovore>Enlightened Tzaangor>Chaos Spawn (3 variants)>4 new Operations>Siege Mode>Stratagem Mode (Operations with modifiers)
>>540111291Very different, I think you have two new difficulties and five new missions for operations, the new stratagem mode for variety on those operations, the siege mode for an alternative, as well as 2 new pistols, two variants of a flamer, and a new melee weapon plus balance changes for playstyle differences. Plenty of free cosmetics too, including the classic marine helmet.There are also plenty of problems still, including new ones to replace old fixed problems, but as far as just having a bunch of content goes there's enough to be worth checking out.
>>540057951Just the blood angel pack, they are the only loyalist chapter I like. (Let me be a loyalist Night Lord >:( the armor is already in the game.) I fully expect the upcoming blood angel champion pack to be a death company for assault or a sanguinary guard.
>>540112072>Let me be a loyalist Night LordThey're called the raven guard.
>>540084579god you are insufferable
>>540112072>Let me be a loyalist Night LordYou're a loyalist primaris helping the loyalist cause, please understand. Also World Eaters don't have snipers, please understand. Also you're playing as a named Ultramarine, please understand. Also it's a small development studio, please understand. GW is an evil corporation that prevents them from doing things, please understand.
>>540108610>MUH-RINES, MOVE DEM ROCKS DERE>BEHIND YOU SHALL FIND OUR MANIAC MUH-CHINE
>>540111291Some things the other guys didn't mention:blocking was completely reworked to be a high risk-high reward alternative to safe fencing playstyle but it's been nerfed massively over the last two updates, still something you would want to check out.Ops are hit and miss, nids are still more enjoyable than chaos. Ruthless was made significantly easier. Lethal is like old ruthless, absolute is harder, hard siege/strategems are harder than absolute.Bulwark can now ditch the shield and equip a thunderhammer, for a completely different playstyle.Assault is still the underdog.
>>540112960>Assault is still the underdog.You mean Vanguard. If it wasn't for the heal, he'd never be picked.
>>540112528SALAMANDER SNIPERS!!!>>540112181>They're called the raven guard. not really
>>540113196doesn't the raven guard have a couple of night lord loyalists?
>there are anons who justify cheating currency instead of just playing the game
>>540113436During the HH, there were a loyalist Night Lord and an Iron Warrior that joined the Raven Guard. They liberated a prison planet and a hive world together iirc. After that, Corax ordered the non-RG elements in his legion to go back to Terra. I don't know what happened to them afterwards.
Brothers, come get your Ultraslop!
>>540116231kek where is this
>>540116931Random chance to spawn down here.
>>540116231>gigantic stockpot (like 4 feet tall) with an ultra omega on itthis shouldn't be as funny as it is
>>540113196>space marine the uses fear, stealth and surprise(bird)space marine the uses fear, stealth and surprise(bat)
>>540117874Raven Guard are the equivalent of government spooks. They're scary after the fact. They prefer stealth tactics because they view it as quick and efficient.Night Lords are the equivalent of horror movie villains. They're in it purely for the thrill of the game. They want to watch you piss and shit yourself as you barely catch a glimpse of their glowing eyes in the corner of your vision.
chad marines 2 wondarktide sissies lost
>>540117085Tried to get it to spawn by switching from campaign to PvE over and over but it just didn't happen.
>>540118449night lords are also fucking incompetent. their main charm is that they aren´t really trained soldiers but just a bunch of infighting mobsters.
>>540091918>it was shit back then so it has to be shit now
nids in the Vox finale, fascinating
>>540093602Scoped HBR is my go to as tac when im not running pyre.
I'm really hoping the five burst Instigator Rifle is good. It's the only weapon I take on Vanguard because it's the one gun he has that even has a smidge of pro-active ammo recovery. Sure the Melta Rifle gets a whopping 1 shot back per execute, but the Instigator can get 50% of a mag back presuming no missed shots.
>>540119136Both games are a joke.
>>540121173Based on the Heroic Pistol, I'd honestly say the Heroic Instigator is probably going to be about on par with the accuracy Bolter, or even the Stalker. I know that sucks in terms of the Heroic weapon power level, but Vanguard is desperate for a gun like that. It'll help him a lot, especially against Chaos when not wanting to be a stagger bitch with the Melta.
>>540121173If a single 5 round burst puts majoris enemies into <33% health status reliably, it'd be god tier
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>>540119228I'd say their main charm is the nuance the legion has that's lacking in most other traitor legions.In both 30k and 40k, they have characters who are very happy to have betrayed the Imeperium while at the same time refusing to abide injustice.>Sevatar learns a Dark Angels serf, a little girl, was beaten and paralyzed for the crime of talking to him, so he escapes his cell and hunts down the perpetrator before brutally murdering the guy with his bare hands, then simply surrenders and goes back to his cell>Talos gently reassuring a maimed serf that he'll help her, then having her fitted with the best augmetics his warband can manage before Malcharion caps off his legacy by making his final act escorting the woman to safety
>>540016031I find that playing bullwark I always get the highest damage/kill... at least so far that's been the case, but I only played 10 PvE mission.
>>540037631I am dissapointed by you commisar.That kind of heresy deserves more than single blamming.
Are non-stalker bolters for tactical really unusable?
>>540123372>Space yiffs and Sally Boys are the least popular chaptersWhat gives? I mean Salamanders didn't get a proper chapter pack but Space awoogas have a selection of gear, I think. And both still have it better then Iron Hands that got nothing but a cybernetic arm, yet these dudes got more numbers.Also thank you for your work Wall Anon. Quality as always.
>>540113436keep in mind that all the loyalist nightlords were terran born not Nostramo.aka the onions nightlords.
>>540124240Space wolf pack is low value unless you play specifically space wolves or their single living successor chapter, and space wolves aren't overall very well liked.Salamanders is probably a combination of lack of cosmetic support and being seen as reddit's favourite chapter. Plus the lack of fire weapons until the most recent update.
>>540124240>Space WolvesFurries.>SalamandersThe absolute definition of "got into 40K through Youtube shorts." A shocking amount of people believe ONLY the Salamanders show compassion to anybody. It's soured the entire Chapter for a lot of fans, they're the Final Fantasy VII or Fallout 3 of 40K Chapters.
>>540124187If you want a Stalker that won't give you RSI, the accuracy Bolt Rifle's a nice sidegrade. Marksman Bolt Carbine is solid against Nids, shit against Chaos. Regular Bolt Carbine is only good on Tactical because he can keep it fed. That's it, pretty much.
Love me Raptors, simple as.
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Does the 15% damage when Grapnel is on cooldown perk work when one charge is on cooldown or does it work only work when all of them are used up?
>>540130287Has to have no charges remaining lmao
>>540128831>>540130040Based.
>>540131061Thanks senpai.Vanguard and Sniper are definitely the best for maximum tacticool slop. Assault's decent. Tactical and Heavy to me feel like the hardest to make look like a Raptor. Both of them suffer from "bland or bling" with no real inbetween.
>>540128831>>540130040>>540131061>>540131746any good images or text for their heraldry and shit? I wanna make em as accurate as possible
>>540113079Luckily he always have the heal (I kick the ones who don't run heal on strat hard). Now if only he stops stealing teammates execution like a nigger. Assault is weight down not only by mediocre kit, brainlet players, but also the fact that all of his team perks are garbage
>>540132446The only confirmed official heraldry they have is pic related. Everything else is personal taste and headcanon. For me, knee iconography is interchangeable between legs even in the tabletop because sometimes you just end up with legs that have shit on them that prevent the application of decals. And the same is in SM2, as is the case here >>540128831Should be on the left, but Vanguard only has one skull knee pad, and that's also on the left. So I opted for the right. We've also got the current problem of no Roman numerals for the knee numbers designating Company, we're probably getting them next year with the Raptors DLC.
>>540132943>Should be on the left, but Vanguard only has one skull knee pad, and that's also on the left.*stage leftI meant his right leg, I'm retarded.
>>540132446>>540132943It's also worth looking at high quality depictions people make on art websites. Black helmets used to signify veterans in the old lore, and the yellow stripe is still for sergeants.
>>540006892Can I add my green marine to the dude wall?
>>540123372I don't see this post before posting, so please add >>540134394
>>540133830cool dreadnaught
>>540095427After how successful this game was they're 100% setting him up to be the captain again.
Likelihood of them adding lightning claws as the next weapon?i think theyve added a lot of the more common weapons in 40k.
>>540135909People are copium huffing we'll get them as a surprise drop alongside the Raven Guard/Space Sharks cosmetic drop.
>extremis spawn>The Aligned Aim tactical didn't instantly kill itWhy the fuck did they name grenades EQUIPMENT in the perk tree. Nobody wants a free equipment, the people want free grenades.
>>540138260It's funny to me that Aligned Aim never changed, and used to be top dog, but now it's considered a throw pick because Tactical's "shit grenades every minute" perk came into being.
>>540140726Damn I botched the depth perception on that screenshot.
>>540135909I was going to say not a chance to paired lightning claws but then I remembered that primaris have those smaller claws that could let the user still hold a pistol, so actually a possible weapon addition at some point in the game's development.Single claw is more likely. But I wouldn't get my hopes up either way, that's just the first step on the road to disappointment.
been playing 51 hours a week, i think im blind
>>540128831I can't wait for the chapter pack, hopefully they go all out on parts for the classes that need tactical stuff the most
>level 8 vanguard and 25 bolt sniper join weekly hard>back to back helbrute>bolt faggot doesn't actively take out majoris while I burn the brutes downUseless fucking niggers.
>>540143262They wouldn't even need to go all out. I think most Raptors fans would be happy with the existing leather pouches already in the game just being put in various different places on the body without the ornate stuff tied to it, a sheathed knife here, some ammo belts there. If they were to do this, they could add dozens of new parts without requiring new assets.
I hate that the default heavy chest has the blast shields on the gravis armor almost fully extended, the cowl looks dumb. The default tabletop model for heavy intercessors has the lowered cowl and looks way better
>>540147021>Lowered exists>It's tied to the gaudiest most horrendous chests he has
>>540147224The two relic sets are both partially lowered, one has the cowl down the other has the front blast shield lowered. The ultramarine champion also has a lowered cowl but it only works for ultras and even then why not just use the full champion set
Bro I swear to fucking god my fencing parry frames are on vacation sometimes. How we didn't wipe here because of this shit back to back is beyond me.
>>540132446This is just random art but the green/black makes me coom. The only issue is, especially in-game if you're running not normally official stuff people will just think you're a retard who doesn't know what you're doing
>>540146875What I hope is that there is a widespread number of parts between the classes, since it's not like they can add successor chapters stuff, I would expect more than the usual 4-5 parts
>>540149831Yeah, the moment you start getting niche, or homebrewing, people immediately assume you're a kid fucking around with the color schemes.
stalker bolt rifle or bolt rifle for tactical?
>>540150120Stalker Bolt Rifle vs. Acc Bolt Rifle is pure preference desu.I think the Bolt Rifle is better as a generalist gun, because you can take all of its damage boosting perks and still get easy access to free armor on headshot. Stalker sacrifices free armor for maximum damage, but it melts Zoans and Neuros much faster than the Bolt Rifle.
>>540149413>Three ghost parries in three different instances in the span of thirty secondsWould have actually lost my shit.
>>540078470>do you think you're hitting a fucking stationary target dummy all game or somethingOnce they add taunts for Bulwark and a pocket apothecary to heal him, all targets will be come stationary. I hope you are ready for the advent of ̶W̶a̶r̶c̶r̶a̶f̶t̶SpaceMarine2Logs.com
No need to thank me, Saber.
>>540156907Should make this more obvious, actually. Just so you fags can see what I mean more clearly.
>>540157120With this hypothetical change fencing might as well be deleted
>>540156102Tauntgryn is my favorite Ogryn build in Darktide anyway.
>>540134394Received.
>>540157120Newfag question: why is balance listed twice?
>>540157609Fencing should be entirely removed from the equation desu. Melee damage and reception shouldn't be getting muddied by people only using Fencing and then saying melee weapons suck.>>540158236Top is what we have, bottom is how I would personally fix it.
Have to admit, there's something about Retributors that makes "simple" look nice. I hated how barebones this was on multiple other chapters, but here, it just Todd Howards.
>>540156907>>540157120>>540158849>Blocknigger getting uppity againBalanced will be removed and all of its stats absorbed by Fencing
Crossplay on or off?Guessing the PC population isn't that high nowadays
>>540159713That's literally the same outcome but worse because now Fencing is just retard proof AND strong. It should have a shorter parry window if it's gonna get better stats.
>>540159059Same with raptors. Turns out tacticool is actually mega based
>>540162156>pointless chains and leather strips and bright markings>tacticool
did someone test if the heroic chainsword has some new groundpound breakpoints?
>start game>110 ping>Helbrute spawns>cant parry or dodge, get downed>leave gameyeah I seriously need to leave the moment the game starts if the ping is 100. what the fuck is up with this anyway?
>>540132936I'm a vanguard who doesn't steal executions cause I stopped taking that lvl 25 majoris heal perk that they seemed to nerf in favor of the grapple one that gives me like infinite free armor with the prestige perk that recovers armor on grapples.
>>540167697100 ping is normal in multiplayer games, 150 is the max for competitive FPS; lower is always better like <50 pingYou're just a terrible playerI can tolerate 200~ but anything above that I usually just leave
>>540168015are you retarded? 100-150 is not normal or acceptable when about 2/3 of my games are 45 ping and very playable
>>540168493>are you retarded? 100-150 is not normal or acceptable when about 2/3 of my games are 45 ping and very playableIt is when you're living in a single continent instead of cobbled tiny ass countries with multiple ISPs
>>540149413why gunstrike instead of power sweep? i dont know the damage of it, but there is no way 20% gunstrike damage deals more damage than a powersweep+gunstrike. and powersweep staggers everything including enraged
>>540168708isps don't matter, sm2 servers are dedicated on certain regions and not p2pif you're in a dead region like latam, southeast asia, middle east, west/north australia, africa then you're pretty much fuckedguy is probably a coastal burger or yurofag
>>540037516Listen.I know you hate yourself so much that you feel the need to try to gaslight the normal people around you into thinking they're sharing in your degenerate ways so you can more easily delude yourself into a sense of normalcy and societal inclusion, but you're just fighting your inevitable destiny as an ostracized vagabond.
>>540116231They have a magnificent stew.
>>540169348The answer? My ass was panicking after the multiple failed to register parries.
>>540169370Im a euronig but yeah I really should just stick to my rule of instaleaving if the ping is 100
>>540170757the game tries its damn hardest to pair you with people nearbyif it can't find a lobby then it throws you to the next nearest, etc.im a gook so i end up playing with stupid chinks all the timeat least japs and southeast asians are decentbut asian servers are dead so sometimes i get aussies with 150 ping
Vox is super fucked. I got Nids in warp spawn and Thousons sons in nids pods. Tzeentch must be laughing his ass off.
>stressed out from work, dont want any social interaction>do the hard strat solo with bots>get downed once (fucking emperors blessing exploding a barrel snowballing into dying to the helbrute)>never find any healing, progress through the end anyway>break the sorcerors shield>go go go go go>grab krak grenade, throw it at the sorceror>he teleports, making it whiff>throw another one>terminator dashes into it, starts whirling>explode
tested without the 15sec cd perk at the end of the axe tree. axe is very strong
>>540171572They're too pussy to spawn a Helbrute and Carnifex/Neurothrope along with a double massive wave of Terminators/Sorcerers and Lictors/Zoanthropes/Biovores/Raveners in the main arena
>>540172232what's stressing you out at work fren?
>that guy who does 0 damage and gets no kills but instantly presses E on every single execution in a 10 mile radius
>>540163197Sorry you're not operator enough to understand their uses
>>540135909i was hoping the power fist heroic is going to end up being a lightning claw. power fist looks so god damn goofy.
now raj is just somebody that I used to rape SOMEBODY
>>540174145I'd imagine the power claws would have a shitton of fast light attacks but the power fist is entirely built on heavy attacks.
>start a hard weekly as tac>two people join in progress after a few minutes>it's a heavy and bulwark>they both start whining they didn't get the heal beacon
>>540172232Props for getting that far with bots, no heals, and shit luck.I can't get passed the first fuckin area. Me and level 25 prestige 4 randoms consistently die to the helbrute + terminator squad that consistently spawns immediately. On my like 40th attempt now.
>>540158849Ohh, I get it. You used colors for old and new so I thought red numbers were old and green numbers were new.
>>540169370How come SM2 servers are so fucking slow even when you are right next to them? In WoW I had ping below 10 for a server in Germany, but here it's over 30.
Do all the tacticals auspex passives work with the auspex on parry? Or does it only apply a base amount of damage?
>>540175801>be tac>start hard weekly with an assault and vanguard >helbrute doesn't spawn immediately for once>spawns after the elevator in a more manageable area>beat em despite getting fucked up by its plasma cannon it insists on spamming, and at pointblank range>get through half the labyrinth fine despite assault being a little retarded with the relic>get to the stand-in-squares>fuguring out how to start the objective>assault leaves relic on a ped>horde spawns>million fuckin gayoss spawns spawn>stuck fighting 3 or 4 spawn + a couple rubrics and a term around the relic>assault picks up the relic while I'm scalp deep in a deathball>desperately fending them off until my ho starts draining from the darkness>can't make my bearings between the tidal waves of chaos spawn front flipping over eachother at me and the shitty darkness visual filter and get lost>assault died before me iirc>vanguard got lost in the darkness and died too
>>540176991Slavoid cheapening out on serversThey truly really believed this game would bomb or just be a week long fancyIt didn't truly set in until they had 400k preorders on Steam alone, all the most expensive edition
>>540177230Fairly certain it was nerfed ages ago so no damage bonus works with auspex on parry anymore, because Tactical was one-shotting everything thanks to the 120% boost from the stationary bubble auspex.Despite all this, auspex on parry is still the best defensive damage perk in the game, because unlike Intimidating Aura, it doesn't have a cooldown and makes the target in question weak to everything everybody does.
>>540178060Are you sure? I should definitely update my perk selection if they've stealth nerfed that, would explain why it has felt sluggish to kill stuff lately and why the mark doesn't last the advertised half minute that it should with my perk setup.
>>540178245We're at the point now that most people in Absolute go>50% refund when scanning an Extremis or Terminus>Auspex on parry>120% damage stationary bubbleThe first one was never even changed. The amount of Extremis gradually increased and now it just means constant uptime on auspex.
>>540173548everyone is sick and i´m one of the people that can do everything at least semi well. at times i can´t walk 5meters without 3 people asking me for something simultaneously without noticing the other 2 people yapping in my direction - while i´m on the phone.i like most of my coworkers but fuck i need a break.thx for caring fren
