#6587 - Genesys, KoA loses their fucking mind Editionhttps://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/Previous: >>540013791>Recommended SimulatorsAutomated:●EDOPro (PC/Android): https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●Master Duel (Multi-platform): https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850/YuGiOh_Master_DuelManual:●Duelingbook (online): https://www.duelingbook.comTag: “/dng/” Password: “vidya”; on EDOPro, specify server.>Useful LinksRulebook: https://img.yugioh-card.com/en/downloads/rulebook/SD_RuleBook_EN_10.pdfWiki: https://yugipedia.comProbability Calculator: https://yugioh.fyiStock Market: https://yugiohprices.comDatabase: https://www.db.yugioh-card.comMisc Info: https://www.formatlibrary.com>BanlistsTCG: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_2025-09-15/ (Sep 15/Next Banlist: TBA)OCG: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2341 (October 1st/Next Banlist: January 1st)>DecklistsOCG: https://roadoftheking.com https://tonamel.com/competitions?game=yugioh_ocgTCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/category/decks/tournament-meta-deckshttps://yugiohtopdecks.com (ONLY FOR OLD FORMATS)>NewsJP: https://yugioh-starlight.comEN: https://ygorganization.com>Upcoming ReleasesOCG:●World Premiere Pack 2025 (Sep 27)●Burst Protocol (Oct 25)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 25)●Terminal World 3 (Nov 22)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Charmer (Jan 24)TCG:●Doom of Dimensions (Sep 25)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)●Phantom Revengers (Dec 4)●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)>Events●/dng/ Friday Night Tourney 3 (No Side Deck) (Sep 27, 1900 UTC): https://challonge.com/dngfnt3●/dng/ League Season 1 (Sep 21st, 1930 UTC):https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1● /dng/ Genesys Stakes (Oct 19th, 1900 UTC):https://challonge.com/dngGenesysStakes
first 6 cards in every genesys deck should be 3 izuna 3 shifter
Posting it again for the new thread— I made a page that calculates the score for your decks. Just export the plaintext list from EdoPro, paste it in, and you're off! I hope you all enjoy!https://mieruhochun.github.io/GenesysCalc/
Yugioh ended at Zexal
>>540059408at 5DS*
A lot of decks are gonna need to be hitAnd a lot of decks are gonna need to be unhit lmaoHopefully my idea of them doing this 3 days before DOOD so they can get a playerbase consensus along with shit they forgot to hit is true
99 points. Made it myself, looks fun.
What could this do?
>Genesyssies
/dng/ LEAGUE ROUND 4JOIN:https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1Here's how this works:>4 month long tournament, spanning from the 7th of September to the 18th of January (20 rounds), with the Top 4 Finals taking place on the 25th of January>new participants can join the tournament at any point in time, just sign up on the tournament page>a single round will be held each week>BO3 matches and we're using a very basic leaderboard system, match wins and byes net you 2 points, match losses net you 1 point and no shows give you nothing>2 no shows in a row will result in a disqualification>matchups will be randomized each week, as allowing new players to join all the time messes with any automated round systems>The randomized matchups will be announced in the thread each Monday and the matchups can agree on the time and date of the duel during that week>you are allowed to change decks between rounds>we will be using the most recent TCG banlist and the PRERELEASE card pool>300 second turn timers, no reason for a time limit on rounds as it's only 1 round per week>report scores via DMsCHALLONGE DMs ARE BACK ONLINEThis means we no longer need to rely on the Discord server, but I'm still keeping it around just in case. Here's the link if anyone new joins:https://discord.gg/CM8tYGxS3ARound 4 Matchups>Maelstrom vs Da>Unplayer vs Lynex [COMPLETED]>Commonwheat vs Velleity>Lacooda vs Porker>Rem vs SGoblin>Getter vs Nyx [COMPLETED]
>>540059408Yes.
>>540059480at GX*
unplayers finally got their mickey mouse formathappy for you shitters
THIS IS GOOD i been asking a Mid tier to get casuals for YEARSIts on KONAMI to support this and with a new anime we are going to be SO BACK its not even fun.
>>540060014>i been asking a Mid tier to get casuals for YEARSoh boy i sure hope you enjoy playing against the casual deck known as VSK9
>>540060137genesys "players" won't "play" their formatthey'll watch yugituber grifters talk about it on youtube
>>540060137They'll simply emergency hit VSK9, Dracotail, Gem Knight and Shifter trust in the plan
>>540060137anon vsk9 its getting THE DICK after DOOD
>supposed low power format>the current t0 garbage is playable ban vsban k9
>>540059408at battle city's finals*
what. the japs are saying about genesys?
>>540059408*at bonds between time movie
>>540060739Yeah it was really cool when after Blue Eyes Ultimate Spirit Dragon destroyed Red Eyes Flare Metal Dragon Yugi was able to bounce back and use Red Eyes Dark Dragoon to beat Kaiba
>pachy 100 points>boarder 20>the world 100>gimmick puppet nightmare 70lennybros...
>>540059645Da, if you're up for our match today let me know.
>>540059408I like ZeXal but it's clear that by then Gallop is out of fucking ideas for duels and really starts coasting. It also doesn't have a fucking clue on what to do with all the stupid lore they set up at the start.
>dogshit deck that never made it past being a potentialman deck like voiceless, regenesis and horus? put their consistency card at 33 points>2-time worlds finalist and current best deck of the format and previous format by far to the point it was almost T0? don't hit a SINGLE one of its cards
Rip in piss pedos
>>540061075You forgot>2-time worlds finalist and current best deck of the format and previous format by far to the point it was almost T0? don't hit a SINGLE one of its cards>also give it shifter
>>540061075they obviously will change the points and add cards to the listVS and poopsmith should not be exempt from the point list just because the "intended" way to play the deck is banned
>bought D/D to get prepped to have fun at locals>locals is permanently changing to Genesys instead of Advanced and never hosting advanced againSo that's cool my deck that vitally uses Pendulum and Link is now dead and there is 0 reason for me to purchase anything that requires Links.How do I cope?
traptrix GODS we keep winning
>>540061296Play VSK9 with shifter and show them how good and interesting this format is.
>>540061317That's a Magical Musket player.
>>540061296based locals
>there is not one but TWO Ancient Gear cards that are pointed>they are 33 points eachFucking WHY? (other is Ancient Gear Advance)
Tewart, where's the Vanquish Soul hits?
>>540061296Instantly?
>>540061296main format will be always be king genesys is just a fun mid format for casuals
>Self-Destruct Button 100 pointsit's time
>>540060259>>540060363The fact that VSK9 is at full power isn't a glitch, it's intended. Gotta sell those new K9 cards somehow, and you aren't going to do that hitting them when they're still being printed.All this format serves to do is to make sure everything considered rogue is at a similar power level (except for all those decks that have a single link 1), while letting whales still pay their way to victory.
>>540061628>>540061075Yeah idk how anyone can take this shit seriously
>>540061653>Vanquish Soul got hits on the last TCG list>Vanquish Soul is basically untouched in Genesys formatWell then.
So if i like pendulum/links i have no rights? wtf konami?
>>540059408At Go Rush*
>>540061725I get why you think that but now my locals has, at least for now, decided to permanently pivot to Genesys. There are no other locals for me to attend and every deck I remotely care about both now and upcoming is either massively nerfed by, or outright killed by, the Genesys ruleset.Genesys unironically killed Yugioh for me that would be actually fucking hilarious if it wasn't happening to me
You guys don't get it, metafags need a deck to play. They're literally too stupid to build a deck on their own, they need to be force fed. So VSK9 needed to stay. Think of the brainlets.
>>540061918you have the entire regular format fuck off
Jerome would rather you play with VFD and Shock Master before letting you play Electrumite.
>>540061628konami knows what a dirty uninteractive going second ftk deck ancient gear isput fortress to 90 points
He's coming.
>supposed boomer format>they nerfed all the decks made for boomers to the ground (Monarchs, True Draco, Floo)Cringe
>>540062039your locals sound retarded man its a fade , like its a decent idea but now its just novelty
>>540061028I'm good to play around an hour from now.
>>540062475Man I tried teaching floo to a yugiboomer.He could not get his mind around their banishing when sent to the GY/add back from the banish zone shit.It didn't make sense to him
>Striker>Dragonmaid>Rikka/Plant Link>Evil Twin>Solfachord>Labrynth>Mikanko>Centurion>Vaalmonica>MalissAll the DBP waifu archetypes hit by the Genesys format, this means only Witchcrafter and Exosisters are unhit, and Shifter is at 5 while Secret Village is at 100 and several key Magistus cards are hit so ummm when you nooticin shabbat shalom tewart
Hand traps should all be bumped higher. The casuals and boomers they're trying to appease by doing shit like no links/pendulums also hate hand traps. Every hand traps should be at least 20 points even the shittier ghost girls.
>>540062805centurion is a synchro deck, it can be played in genesys
Everytime I think about this card, I can’t help but think about the OSS Snake-Eyes spell card.
>>540062805>exosister has 0 hits and can play x3 shifter without issueinterdasting, with how gutted everything else is they might actually be among the best decks in this formatcan't really think of anything else that would come close besides VS
>>540062805>dragonmaid tidying and sheou are both randomly hitHuh?At first I thought "lol yeah losing spheres is 90% of Dmaids endboard" but they just have legitimate hits to dmaid cards.
>>540062985It has cards on the list (like Dragonmaid and Labrynth and Mikanko), and notably Crimson Dragon is an automatic 100 point exclude, I think the core is around 50+ points
>>540062663Probably because Floo is completely nonsensical to anyone who isn't entrenched in modern Yugioh's solitaire game progression. Boomers expect to play a simple game where you react to the opponent's plays, not a complicated game where you react to your opponent's plays but only if you go first and only after you spend five to ten minutes jerking off to combos that don't really make much sense. Boomers expect to snowball advantage over multiple turns while playing to the fundamentals of the game.
I am hosting a 100 point Genesys format tournament on Sunday, the 19th of October (Subject to change)>Bo3 Swiss>55 minute rounds, 450 second timer>New time/end of match rules>Decklists and check-ins required>TCG cardpoolSign up here: https://challonge.com/dngGenesysStakesI'm open to suggestions and questions and the date/time is not set in stone.
>Numbers Evaille is free and Rhongo is only 31Yeah I think it's pretty silly to have a bunch of summon floodgates at like, not 100, can't Raidraptor still do the Kali Yuga line?
>>540063220ban VS/K9
>>540063070crimson dragon should be banned in the actual game too its a dirty cheating criminal card
>>540063069it's to weaken the dracotail variant I guess
>>540063220Ban shifter
>>540063061Macro and Fissure are also freeYou might say the format might be occupied by something
>>540062475sovlfull boomers are playing something that isn't stuncringe
>>540063292>>540063401Nah fuck off. Play the damn format as advertised. Let's show everyone what a pile of shit it is.
>>540063450they even fucking banned mind drain and you are telling me they didn't bother to hit macro and fissure? what the fuck is wrong with KoAi really wanted to like this format, the idea is really good, but man what is this VS coddlingVS is even an extremely boomer-unfriendly deck because of how many actions a turn you have to do
i think it can come back at least to 1
>>540059223>metaverse: 0 points>mystic mine: 100 pointsBoys, we're back.
>Level Eater 100 pointsis he worth it without links existing?
>>540063610>tyrant TO hating his playersDidn't take long for those colors to show.I'll pass
This is the first time in ages TCG can ""lab"" in a format before OCG
>the Genesys logo wheel has pairs of white, purple, light blue squares with a black border surrounding themReally doing the double pair of square things to make fun of Pends huh>>540063650Yeah, I think this might need a couple of lists or two before it can be like, a fun more lower powered format you can really sink your teeth into
>>540063707>they forgot to put 1 point into metaversetime to apply cock and ball torture upon the VS metasheep
>all these retards still treating deck building like the normal advanced format instead of realizing killing certain combos is the point behind the high costs
Do we know why Links and Pendulums are not allowed in Genesys? Technical reasons not the nostalfag derengment
>>540063779level eater is overrated
>>540063220I can do the 26th, but not the 19th. If you do a round 2, I'll be there
>>540059223Thoughts on Genesys format?
>>540063965>killing certain combos is the point behind the high costs**unless your deck is VS
Reactions to the Genesys format from our friends on Starlight.
Draw cards aren't good anymore. You'd rather search what you need than draw 2 potentially useless cards only to get Droll'd.
>>540064046100 points seems like a very low amount but the idea is to have it as a low to the ground format, I guess.
>>540063832Yeah, but I might have to max out on How Did Dai Get Here just for consistency.
>>540064007READ
>>540064007links were 100% banned for being way too generic and making 1 card combos way too consistent
They should've added Duelist Levels too.
>>540064007Because they make the game more complicated and this is meant to be a slower format. At least that's what I think.
>>540064007I'll tell you the real, 100% truth:Konami legitimately has no idea how to balance links or pends.The state of the game makes a lot more sense when you realize that konami has no idea how modern yugioh is played.Removing pends/links is trying to hide their incompetence and then they still let in near full power VSK9 lmao
>Magical Scientist 95 points>but no linksso close to greatness
>>540064007unga bunga ve must return to traditional game matLinks kinda fundamentally shift a lot of cards, even something like Xyz is limited by levels, but links are basically inherently generic by design, solely limited by their almost only just effect monsters requirements, I'd imagine having to incorporate links would radically shift the point system that they probably didn't think was worth doing given its divisive nature to Yugiboomers.Pends are mostly a yugiboomer hit, but I'd imagine MR3 style pend summons would mean that even letting them get to a pend summon turn 3 and beyond means they automatically win the grind game due to pend summon 5, you could limit the number of pend summons from the ED but as mentioned, more of a yugiboomer thing than a balancing hit
>>540064304How would that work?
>>540064390>Catapult Turtle: 100Darn, they expected that one.
Delete Pends from the game and everyone will be happy
>>540063292>>540063401I'd like this tournament to be as vanilla as possible so I'm not going to fuck around with the card pool or points values.>>540064042Like I said, the 19th isn't set in stone so if multiple people want it changed (or if it makes no difference to anyone but you) we can do the 26th instead.
>>540063965So why bother with the it when you can just ban the combos?
>>540064551they fear the 2003 combos
Are there no Yummy cards on the points list?
>>540064472The more you duels you win, the higher your level.
>>540064701whats yummy going to do without links?
>>540064701You have no Snatchy or Link 1s at all, which is why shit like Maliss or Striker don't have hits
>>540064701Nevermind, I forgot that Links are banned. It will take some time to get used to that.
Dracotail is looking pretty damn sick in Genesys format.
>fuck this I'll just go play Magic instead>remember Magic is doing Spiderman sloppa nowIs it time to kneel before Pokemon again? I tried so hard to escape but everything I did led me here, back to 'chu...
>>540064046more interesting than anything konami has done since the ending of the anime
>>540065071Quit all card games
>>540065071Magic really tarnished their game with all of the crossover shit.
Dimensional Barrier
Everyone who claims that VSK9 is full power is an idiot. Powerful deck? Sure. But full power? No.This is what full power VSK9 was looking like before it got hit on the most recent banlist:https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/k9-vanquish-soul-643078Consulting the Genesys list, the following cards are on it:Main>K9 Izuna: 20 x 3 = 60>K9 Lupus: 5>Dimension Shifter: 5>Mulcharmy Fuwalos: 7 x 3 = 21>Mulcharmy Purulia: 10>Ash Blossom and Joyous Spring: 15 x 3 = 45>Ghost Belle and Haunted Mansion: 5 x 3 = 15>Nibiru the Primal Being: 10 x 2 = 20>Pot of Prosperity: 40>Reinforcement of the Army: 40Main Deck Total: 261Extra>Divine Arsenal Zeus: 20>Star Slayer TY-PHON: 10>K9 Ripper: 20 x 2 = 40>Rock of the Vanquisher: Banned x 3>S:P Little Knight: BannedExtra Deck Total: 70 + 4 Banned cardsSide>Mulcharmy Purulia: 10 x 2 = 20>Droll & Lock Bird: 7 x 2 = 14>Called by the Grave: 20>Harpie's Feather Duster: 33>Triple Tactics Talents: 93>Anti-Spell Fragrance: 100>There Can Be Only One: 100Side Deck Total: 380Overall List: 711 + 4 Banned Cards / 100 Point MaxThis is just one list but you are going to see significant totals like this across all of them. Again, VSK9 is a pretty powerful deck. It ain't fucking full power.
>>540065071more options is ..good i think?
Honestly, really only the new Cont. Spell feels worth running. I guess Overlord is fine but it also feels kinda SHIT since it has no immunity + 3 tributes. Mariamne is pretty shit but I guess vs some decks she might be coming in clutch...? They should've at least brought back Demise so my list would feel so CLEAN.
>>540065181Bakana...>>540065212I really didn't think it could be worse than what they've done to their own setting over the years but damn, I was wrong. The Fortnitefication is complete.
>>540065071People don't play pokemon.
>>540063070>I think the core is around 50+ pointsunfair, it demands you to play the archetype's boss monsters
>>540065071Its time to join one of the bigger anime card games like one piece.
>>540065359Are True King and True Dracos meant to be played together? They have a destroy and tribute spells/traps gimmick that don't go together at all.
>>540065541They're not "really" meant to be played together, but you technically can.
>>540065541It's kinda like Dracoslayer and True Dracos, so no, it's just a lore nod.
>>540065071Play Flesh and Blood
Faimena is only 20 points, Arthalion is 10 points. You can get away with only running 2 Arthalion if you want. That's 80 or 90 points spent. What else do I add to the deck?
Seems like the Japs are waking up/getting off work since I'm seeing a lot more new japanese twitter posts when searching Genesys
>>540065867Waking up. It's 7am.
>>540061296>>540062039Me again. I think its genuinely over for me. All decks I enjoy utilize a Pendulum or Link in some way or are killed via pointing.Everything from @Ignister to Plunder Patroll, from Centur-Ion to T.G., SPYRAL to Morphtronics, Gouki to Fur Hire, R.B. to The Weather.I am fucked. Everything else is bottom of the barrel shit that can't stand to deal with other decks even with the nerfed power level like Dream Mirror or Libromancer.I never thought the boomers would somehow actually stop me from playing Yugioh, but they did it.
Will I finally be able to play Generaider?
>>540066274>GeneraiderNo cause most of you guys rope when the HRT isn't enough to sustain your delusion
>Triple Tactics Talent: 93 PointsNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>540066274Not being able to summon an XYZ to the EMZ makes the token summon not as good
>>540065853Super Polymerization is 10 points a piece and Garura and Mudragon are 0?
>yummy dead>obedience schooled still 40 pointsMY HOT MELFSNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What decks besides Dracotail will be good in Genesys? The Artmegia stuff?
>>540059223Excuse me?
>>540062084There's literally no excuse to keep electrumite banned in advanced now.
>>540063220People should submit their decklists in advance to make sure their point totals are correct. There will definitely be some mistakes, that's just human nature.
>>540066796>There's literally no excuse to keep electrumite banned in advanced now.There is though and the reason is trannies don't deserve to Pendulums be even remotely viable
Why does Konami hate PendGODs so much? They've never been anywhere near as cancerous as Links.
>>540059623Please be fake...Also... token nigger? lmao
>>540064227>less complicated gameThe points system is more complicated.>new to the gameThis is a fucked up way to get into the game. >favorite deckMy favorite deck is Burning Abyss. I'd like to be able to play one of the only support cards it's gotten in the past eight years but oops it's a link. At least I can play my other favorite deck Blue-Eyes oh wait it's link reliant. Maybe Heroes? Oh wait Cross Crusader is what fixes most combos, the beatdown variant would like to play Dread Decimator, Neos needs Infernal Devicer, and Wonder Driver is necessary for the grind. Maybe I can play Dinos? Oh no Linkuriboh. Altergeist? Fuck, links. Well shit I guess my favorite decks just don't work right in this supposedly "play your favorites" format. >change of paceSnapping my testicles to a clipboard is also a change of pace.
>>540059623>opponent does anythingJAAAAAAADGE
>>540067049Agreed, so Electrumite can stay banned and take Beyond with it.
>>540067175You can absolutely play HERO, Blue-Eyes and Burning Abyss without links
>>540066454>Change of Heart: 10>Pot of Greed: 30>Forceful Sentry: 100put it all together and you get 93
>>540067175Are you retarded?
>>540067292But you will lose to decks that are better than heavily nerfed HERO, Blue-Eyes and BA
>>540067325>put it all together and you get 93I'm getting 140.
For a format with no banlist, there sure is a lot of cards that cost exactly 100 points.
>>540065212Final Fantasy is alright but the Spiderman shit and Avatar being all that's left this year when we just got Tarkir and Edge of Eternities as banger in-universe sets screams mismanagement. At least I can keep playing EDH and mostly ignore the Spiderman shit since it's not very good.
>>540067325
>>540067385To be fair, a lot of these are kinda annoying as shit cards, although there's certainly shit like Beatrice or Instant Fusion or Level Eater or OSS or Dragoon that could certainly be lowered.
>Try to build a deck on prodeck>Accidentally click on a card while trying to drag it>Get sent to the card page>Deck goneHow do people use this dogshit site
>mystic mine costs 100>fire prison costs 0 and does the exact same thingok
>>540065071Play the Digimon TCG
>>540067380>>540067597NTA but the joke is Talents is all 3 of those effects in 1, cheaper, card
>>540067385I like how it's basically a soft banlist. You can play 1 copy but you're cutting yourself off from any other potentially good cards.
And Yuya continues to be the black sheep MC kek. rip to Abyss Actors' chance
>>540067691what the fuck is this doing with no link monsters, blanking all attacks?
>>540067396Final Fantasy as a franchise is the gayest shit ever but it does at least feel like a little effort went into making some of the cards flavorful (even if most of it is just "look it's Tifa Waifu from Final Fantasy 7, buy buy buy!), whereas Spiderman is a flavor trainwreck. I haven't really looked into Avatar but I liked the design of the Toph card mechanically at least.EOE i checked out of when I learned the hero was a wholesome nonbinary whatever, and I never fucking liked Tarkir so the year's been a wash for me>>540067695I don't like Digimon but the simultaneous turn thing I've heard about is super interesting, I'm actually going to check it out.
>>540067734Yeah, I know but you have to sell it so it can get a bunch of replies.
>>540067292Those decks are total dogshit compared to recent pushed decks that don't need links.
>victory dragon >0
>>540066138Give it a bit of time, anon. They've claimed that they plan to potentially be updating this list on a potentially monthly basis.Though which part of T.G. is killed? Best I can tell, Hyper Librarian is their only card on the list? I know Trident Launcher is gone, but isn't T.G. Over Dragonar the preferred summon now?
>>540067734He didn't make a jokeHe make a factually inaccurate statement.
>Naturia Beast 50 pointsI mean oof, but this is still manageable
>>540066956Trannie shitters like yourself need to stay in your designated genesys containment zone.
Just had the funny thought of them doing shit like gradually letting some Pend archetypes like Dinomists and specific Links like the Ghostrick Link to try and wean new players into thinking that maybe pends and links aren't so bad
Love how Dracotail and Vanquish Soul are still going to be the best decks.
>>540067835Ignore him. It's been a while, but for years he's been trying to hype up Fire Prison as this special tech that breaks the meta.
>>540067936T.G. Over Dragonar's main starting play was to go into Trident, without Trident you can at BEST make a 10 with no protection and pass unless you open like 2+ more extenders, all without any of the consistency you normally have since Bonfire, Fossil Dig and OSS are all pointed.
>4 Gladiator Beast cards on the list>Eldlich is completely untouched
>>540068176glads can coombo easily in a format with significantly less handtrapseldlich lost almost all its generic floodgatestry again retardfag
this is free lmao
https://yugioh-starlight.com/archives/59431431.html#comments>some japanese calling it based that yummy and maliss are unplayable>one wondering if the ocg will allow it because it boxes out the striker they love so muchlol
>>540068176Blame konami for turning glad beast, the battle deck into a buildaboard negate bullshit.It's a fucking shame what they did to glad beasts, six sams, lightsworns and the goats of those times.
>>540068328My brother in christ, losing Test Panther and Dareios is enough of a hit to this deck.
https://x.com/himahitoken/status/1970261179521212527LMAO
>>540068490>lightswornsAre we gonna pretend that Lightsworn Zombies weren't a thing now
Is the official Genesys builder slow as fuck for everyone else?
>Infernity Launcher 88what a specific number, I wonder what they meant by that
>>540061292Fiendsmith doesn't have any links
>>540068490>lightswornsThe lightsworn support doesn't even pivot lightsworns gameplay much though?
>DOOD was so bad they had to create a format to distract you from it>>540068490Have you ever seen a gladiator beast player post-SUDA
To me, unchained is the only link archetype worth saving. What is yours /dng/?
>>540068648it's pretty much unusable. it's genuinely faster to just use edo while referencing the spreadsheet.
>>540068776TriBrigade
>>540067903Lmao too bad surrendering is Spell Speed 4
>dustshoot at 94>the arguably better red lotus is only 50, which also lets you play 3 thrusts doubt that you'd play it over handtraps but still funny
>>540068753Yeah I did 3 weeks or so ago at locals randomly, but I get what you mean.My point wasnt to hate on them, I just heavily dislike that konami during an era of the game to modernize decks started giving more negates and more ways to build a board.GB support should have been along the lines of tenpai gameplay rather than this bullshit.
>>540068776altergeist
Shifter is actually dogshit in genesyssy format because every playable deck is a Shifter deck
>Only Invoked hit other than links existing is Caligais it time to normal summon aleister again?
>>540069124dracotail.
>>540069165Enjoy playing the fiftieth best two card combo engine.
>>540069165you're gonna need a way for consistent light access without the magistus link
>>540067049Probably for the optics and making the game mat appear simpler. But also there could be one person in Konami who has simply hated pendulums for all this time and sends them the evil eye whenever there's a chance
>>540069165how are you going to fuse without artemis?
gl hf genesissies
>>540069360>>540069406>>540069474Cartesia with Shadow's Light?
>>540069610It's really odd that they completely missed pair-a-dice smasher after putting every other floodgate under the sun at 100.
>>540069612just play his retrain no need for the fusion spell anymore
>>540062639I somehow missed this message but are you still here?
>>540069610don't think nib will even be that good in genesys
>>540069719>This costs 85 Points but Pair-a-Dice Smasher is free
>>540068175I suppose that's fair enough. Considered something like Gold Pride P.U.N.K? Your 100 points would be spent on double E. Tele and Psychic End Punisher, but that ain't that bad.
>>540069916Yeah bro, host up.
>>540068776my beloved
Some of the balancing decisions on the spreadsheet really are questionable, though. I think the only real way for this format to be decent is if it manages to only attract the kind of people who wouldn't even bring a competitive deck to a regular format YCS and the kind of people who don't even go to tourneys
>>540065224Majority of those points are staple cards. Most of those staple cards were played in that deck and in many others specifically to be able to handle VS K9 and other similarly powerful decks' engines. The VS K9 engine is at near full power.The little power it loses is heavily compensated by the fact that nobody will be able to run enough non-engine to handle it. On top of that, it gets 3 Shifter.The deck will be beyond tier 0.
>>540069610pair-a-dice costing 0 had to be on purpose, they really wanted VS to win the first event
>>540065853It's not worth running 3 Faimena, that's too many points. Run 1, 3 Mululu and 0 cost fusion engines and increase the number of 0 cost names.
>>540069945>Your 100 points would be spent on double E. Tele and Psychic End PunisherAnd my deck would be completely devoid of any and all handtraps, since they are basically all pointed aside from shit like Skull Meister
>instant fusion 100 points but pair-a-dice is 0???????????
>>540064437That's retard ass take because any sort of pend control deck got killed hard by link ruling. Majespecter, AA even Qli.
I haven't seen any Agents or Heralds in the list, outside of Diviner I think you can play Agents safely
>Number 100: Numeron Dragon, 1 point>Number 97: Draglubion, 100 pointslmao this was definitely a spite hit after one of them got otk'd by it
>>540070045Hosting
>>540070586>Herald of Arc Light: 50 pointsAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>full power vsk9 with pair a dice and 3x shifter is 99 pointslmao
>>540070514tear hit
>>540070635That hit is complete nonsense as well when you look at what's allowed. You don't want OTKs in the format? Exosister is full power and even that shit ass deck can OTK easily.
>>540070760shifter isn't good in that format
>>540070771tear has enough hits to not need instant fusion to be 100 points
VS K9 puts up like 13 interrupts and they expect you to be fine with paying 15 for Ash Blossom and 10 for Purulia
>>540067903Can you do something with that?
>burst protocol is revolver/dragon link>introduce genesyshow is koa going to sell bpro?
guess I will play ice barrier or regenesis
>>540070937while 100 points is the standardthey are clearly planning to make events with a higher point cap
Ash, Veiler, Imperm, Nib should not cost more than 3 each
velleity1 are you out there to duel for the league thing
>>540070482I'm pretty sure thinking in terms of handtraps won't work in this format. Everyone is focusing on Vanquish Soul, but that thing's pretty clearly an outlier fuckup that is going to get fucked up near immediately.
>>540064046I got a bad feeling that this will become like Smogon where a single playstyle is so incentivized that you'd be an idiot not to play itLater on the people that maintain this will try to keep that shitty playstyle as long as possible while ignoring that the OCG dictates card design and gets left behind in an archaic tier systemThe fact that Shifter decks instantly became Tier 0 is a sign that the design team's scope on the game is highly limited to whatever their testing circle deems problematic
>>540070986....its a fun casual format anon its not going to replace main
>>540063069>tidying and sheou hitlmao cmon man what the fuck do dmaids even do without seals
>>540071172My locals just replaced main with it
>>540064046Ask again after the points list goes through some updates
>>540071284proofs?
The cards that are legal in TCG format but still have 80+ points means they acknowledge them as problems but still let them be legal anyways, right?.
>>540071284Probably because it is new and to get people to try it.The standard advanced is likely going to be coming back for you in like a couple weeks at worst.
Are Bystials good now? The one deck with nothing to banish uses Cartesia into Artemis now so there’s something worth banishing.
>>540071154Even without VS there are a lot of viable decks that are built around the modern YGO mindset of T1 build a board, T3 OTK. If you let say Exosister go first and make their setup uninterrupted and you can't push through it, they are going to just kill you with Magnifica on their followup.Sacrificing every slot for engine will only work if your engine is insane at pushing through disruption.
>>540071468no
>>540071623By every slot I mean all your points of course
Now let's all laugh at the post-anime decks that got 0 hits or incidental bans in Genesys format
>>540071284Run a cancerous as fuck deck to show how bad it is.
White Aura Whale is a fantastic boss monster for the WHITE fish archetype, but there was supposed to be an even bigger WHITE fish than him. Unfortunatetly for all of us, Bahamut is TRASH.So, if you had to retrain Bahamut into a better version of himself to capstone the WHITE series of monsters, how would you do it? what would you give him? Something fun that interacts with the thematic idea of him being a two headed monster that's not just "he makes a token"
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/2025/genesys/what-if-i-create-the-next-great-deck/
>>540071902>events can be run with any point cap, or even a zero-point cap! Official Tournament Stores can set their own caps for their tournaments.
>>540072005>zero-point capDamn, I guess I will have to play Vanquish Soul
>>540071964So it's basically confirming, that yeah, some decks with way too high costs will get their shit lowered while other decks with too low or no costs will get hit
Genesys is the people’s format – YOU, the Duelists, will be driving most of the action behind the point costs of cards. We’re planning to update the point costs regularly. In general, cards that don’t see as much play will see their costs go down, and cards that get played a lot could see their costs go up.Picture this: You’ve just won the very first Genesys YCS with your own unique strategy that you spent a month designing and testing. It should be one of the greatest moments of your Dueling career, but there’s a nagging voice in the back of your head saying “Is my Deck about to be costed out of existence?”
>>540069719>>540070215You're over thinking things. Whoever was in charge of making the genesys points had no communication with whoever did the tcg banlist. Time and time again KoA has shown it has zero internal communication.
>locals is trialing genesys in place of advanced for the foreseeable future>know my locals population is filled with absolute sweats who WILL play VSK9 with no remorse endlessly until its goneGlad to know my locals is unplayable for over a month at least
>>540072167VS and shifter will get killed after the first event
>not even day after annoucement>"durr my locals are replacing standard tcg with genesys"Nice larp.
yeah im running the triple mirage of nightmare engine for genesys
Good games Da, I was anxious having to face your Branded deck since I've lost my last few matches against you in the past. I was sweating bullets the whole time.
>>540072835even japs hate mapiss
>>540073051dey butthurt
>>540073019GGs, my hand game two was pure ass but honestly it had plays if I had just committed to them. I had double Saronir in hand so in theory I could have specialed one and then tribute summoned the other in order to dump BraFu so I could Fusion Dupe it on your turn but I felt that that was just a really bad play and I was hoping to discard the Saronir with Superpoly to achieve basically the same result. Punished for being greedy I guess.
>>540067987Trannies like pends so they hate gensys
Hosting.I don't have chat accidently muted this time.
>>540070981Nah because as this guy said: >>540068892
Where do I check genesys point values
i wonder if the OCG will make their own genesys the point system is better than the current banlist system
>>540073668https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/2025/sep/yugioh-genesyshttps://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/
>>540072740your fault for attending trash locals, most serious ones already announced at least a few genesys events.
Hosting, EU casual
>>540073801Announcing a few events is one thing. The way it's being portrayed here is that advanced is being completely unsupported less than a day after this annoucement.
>>540072427>2 posts today claiming their locals are moving over hours after announcement What's this shitpost trying to achieve?
>>540074216yugioh is le dying psyop
>>540074216Larpers treating (You)s like updoots.
>>540061725but there is also non zero chance the side format become much popular because it support much more deck or playstyle just like how Magic main format got taken over by commander formatAlso because how popular commander have become WOTC made new set with commander format in their mind rather just the main format
>>540074172noone here goes to locals man you're being trolled
>>540066956So why aren't they nuking plants after trannies started playing slop decks with them?
>>540074480Genesys is just too shit, point based banlist isn't a good idea with a card pool this massive.
>>540074172One locals =/= Everywhere
>>540059223So what genesys only decks do you think will pop up? I personally bet on R4nk Shock Master Turbo
>>540074554I'm aware it's fake and gay. I'm calling them a faggot for it.
balanced
>>540075259basically any decks that only need 1 copy of a 100 point card and no other cards with a point cost. mystic mine for example.
>>540075259Holy shit Rhongo is at only 31 points
So, rush never ever for the west
>>540075420Clearly, Maliss was not hit hard enough, gonna need a White Binder ban stat
>>540075420>saudi arabia regionalI'm more shocked it exists.
More Japanese posts regarding Genesys popping up.https://x.com/shirokuriboh/status/1970246396373803337
GGs Siegori, that was a good Branded mirror
>>540075420>50 duelistsdead game
>>540075536yes? the art its baby trash and only trans watched sevens/go its dead as fuck in DL too
>>540075802GGs, really fun game 2 that reminded me how fun branded mirrors can be.
>>540075420Saudis could obviously afford anything but they're still bringing budget stuff like salamangreat and lunalight...
>>540071918>if you had to retrain Bahamut into a better version of himself tThat's gay. Just make a new boss monster. Level 12 White Leviathan.
>>540062805Every Tearlaments Monster is also at 50 points each.Format is Garbo.
This is just the deck capacity system from the GB/GBA Yugioh games.
>>540076070The prize support in yugioh, especially for a saudi arabian, is so small and irrelevant that it's better to bring whatever is actually fun over bringing whatever is technically the best deck.
>>540071918desu both White Aura and Ghoti need better bosses, White Aura Bahamut obviously kinda sucks but Deep Beyond's reciprocal nuke kinda sucks balls
>>540076192JUSTICE
>>540076281GBA, DS, PSP was a great era for short and fun games
>>540074870Plants aren't uniquely tranny but it is their cope. Pends are uniquely a tranny favorite.
>>540064089I agree they should have done a deck Master.
>>540076192>tearlament players when they can't play the strongest deck of all time in a side format
Hosting on eu casual.
>>540062164Shut upFortress doesn't even searchIt also doesn't offer complete immunity
>>540076501Ryzeal beat them already because of Shock Master.
>>540067131>token niggertoken pardo, you stupid amerimutt.
>oh no all the broken tuners are legal halq ca- oh wait links are banned>oh no mx invoker isolde ca- oh yeah links are bannedmaybe this format is alright
>>540070138Orcust needs a new link-3Longirsu is only used as a stepping stone for link climbing these days
>>540076801Links being banned is a 200iq move from Konami, so many of the games modern problems comes from how links work.
>>540076690VSK9 also beat them, and that's allowed to be full power with 3 shifter to boot.
A 2nd supported format existing at all feels more important than what it actually is in the details, purely for offering 2 choices and the possibility that even Konami itself can get some more use from packfillers
>>540076860Eh, I'd rather have a L1 that allows them to keep dumping stuff to GY under Lancea and lets them Link on opponent's turn.
>>540059223Blue eyes eating good in Genesys, pretty much not hit
we need MORE insect support!!! more insect archetypes that don't just go into beetrooper pile!!
>>540077097Honestly a bummer that it's not THE main new banlist, but I get Konami couldn't just decide your thousand dollar Links decks can't be played now. Although they could have made the Pend/Links decks the secondary format, while Genesys is supported as the primary one and no new Links are printed except occasionally
>>540077097I remember making this EXACT argument when suggesting a Standard ROTATING format, and the entire thread dog piling me.You are all such hypocrites. It's only a good idea if KONAMI does it, right?
Seems the Yugioh Starlight thread is comparing it to Duel Masters and its alternate formats Obviously we can't do a blanket ban on ED cards like Duel Masters can since Yugioh is very heavily ED focused
>>540077253no link1 is a huge hit
>>540077253>No Links period>Crimson Dragon is 100p and Sifr 1p so you can't have both at the same time
>>540077418an alternate format and standard rotation are two completely different things.
>>540059573First place a floodgate, then force your opponent to throw idk their Cyberse cards into the field where they'll be thrown into the meatgrinder. For example an anti banish card and then forcing the enemy to summon a full field of Maliss that can't do anything if Raigeki'd
>>540077418I've seen other anons ponder a 2nd format too and they weren't dogpiled. But it was always just wondering and pondering cause many never expected their lazy asses to even attempt a half measure for 2nd option in the west
>>540077625I literally, LITERALLY suggested standard rotation as an alternate format. Multiple fucking times. And every time the thread has a meltdown.
>>540077556You can just, not play the Crimson Dragon line, no?
>Why k9 still playable Ain't now way Konami letting their new product can't be inserted on their new format. I don't understand if people just intentionally acting dumb or just straight up being ignorance that format like time wizard doesn't sell new product because the allowed card literally being frozen in time.NO NEW CARD = NO NEW PRODUCT
>>540076860a link 3 with orcust knightmare's gy effect so that you wouldnt need to run the brick+ having something to do if you get nib'd there.
>OCG card design mindbroke TroonCG to the point they had to ban pedulum and link, banned most modern archetype and prayed to return to "simplier time"TCGkeks, your excuse?
>>540063794TCGawds already pimpslap bozOCGs in any shared (basically OCG) format event, they're not gonna stand a chance in this one lel
>>540077749The difference is Genesys is a side format while rotation implies it is the main format that radically shifts card design around its existence
>>540077556Crimson dragon was a dark tech anyway and almost nobody ran Stardust Divine until recently, it used to cost $44.No link makes things iffy but BEWD does not lack plays, use those Neo Kaisers and stuff
>>540077749Yes you deserve to be called a dumbass for suggesting rotation.
>>540077418Yugioh is already in a rotating format, it's called the Banlist
>>540077903Still better then worshiping the ground the buge walks on.
>>540078040Game needs fixing of some kind, I won't call people retards for attempting something while Konami stands idle.But honestly just import Rush and stop beating around the bush, the people interested on this would also just buy Rush
default cap should be 300 points
Genesys will flop, yugioh players don't actually like any alternate formats
>>540078304I like domain format but edo won't add it
>>540078051THISSome yugioh banlist even rotating out some card even faster than a card game with actual rotation
>>540078304If it was the main format they'd love it more, but yeah, I assume a lot won't try it because it'll feel like fake Yugioh
>>540078304yeah but this time you can play with banned cards so its much more appealing
>>540073051it's shared universally. except for one faggot in this thread->>540073180oh hi
>>540071918>>540076106>>540076307White Aura Great LeviathanSynchro 121 tuner + 1 Water non-tuner3800atk/3800defIf this card was synchro summoned using a synchro monster; you can destroy all face up monsters your opponent controls. If this card was synchro summoned using only synchro monsters; you may destroy all cards your opponent controls instead.
You should increase your point capacity by winning duels
A lot of the spell ROTA/E-Teles are at 33 or 40 wow
>>540078642we could do another ongoing format like that, play games against dng, win to get more points etc
genesys's point values for cards seem extremely balanced around a point cap of 100 to the point that i'm not sure why they even mentioned the possibility of higher caps. a 101 cap tournament would be fundamentally different to a 100 cap tournament because there's like, 10+ combinations of cards that they specifically didn't want you playing together that you now can.
>>540078762>>540078642/dng/ syssie format where you can use points from winning to bump a card's cost up or down
>>540078843They mention you CAN host tournaments with higher caps but in reality fucking nobody on the planet is interested in doing that.
>>540078843above 100 is mostly just for fun or "what if" shenanigans
>>540078304the difference is Konami is pandering the geneysissies hard alreadyThis is what they needed to attract casuals , links and pendulum were ALWAYS the problem for casuals
>>540078843they did mention different caps, but it's very obviously balanced around 100if anything, people will probably make lower cap tournaments more than higher cap
>>540078843They fucked up by saying the custom cap thing, why would they do it? I lost a lot of goodwill in the format if there's the chance stores or players will want to play in higher caps to use their hard-bought expensive cards instead of accepting the limit
>>540078843200 should be the limit >tear still unplayable>other stuff can shine
>some kiketubers already have genesys video ready after a few hoursIs the theory about konami paying kiketubers true after all?
Well now I'm hoping Ogdoadics get some good support so I can play Evol Ogdoadic in this format. Really hoping on more Nunu and Nauya-esque Level 4s and they take Nephilabyss's idea of certain GY interactions reborning them (but without the fucking lock and instead they only reborn when Reptiles do that shit)
>>540078762every single dng progression tourney has sucked ass
>>540079209they got some kiketuberss to try genesys earlyzeef and the gym dude i think
I hate konami... Maybe this will distract vendors and I will get my D/D cards cheaper.
>>540079209>Theory
>>540078967>links and pendulum were ALWAYS the problem for casualsno, 30 minutes combos wereplenty of 30 minutes xyzigging or synchrooming combos left, but at least they should end on more breakable boards in this format
>>540079209>theoryretard
>>540079209it's not a theory brother, several yugitubers have straight up stated they are sponsored by konamifarfa was famously on their payroll before he got kicked out for his palestine tweets
>>540078051Correct, now tell me which is better:1) having cards move out at a set and predictable period so you can prepare2) having cards get banned whenever the fuck Konami feels like it making your shit immediately unplayable and tanking the price of your $1000 deck overnight
Team APS got their wish , casuals WONunplayers WON/dng/ LOST
pendulums not being able to find their footing in either format kekekekek
>>540079275Schmidt was also told about it too early on. Even tried to tell people it's not a sponsored video.
>>5400796162 easilyI like to live life on the edge
>>540079616I'll take having only select cards being taken out instead of having almost every generic/staple/support tool getting nuked on a regular basis
>>540079616i would rather not have a set rotation that will keep a card cancer for 1-2 years instead of 0-9 monthsalso set rotation CGs have both rotation AND banlists so it's clearly a inferior format that achieves nothing
>>540079209This is the most exciting Yugioh news in years. What the fuck else are they gonna make a video about? The 100th vid about why MD sucks ass?
>>540079710i feel so bad for them just give them electrumite already shit is sad
>>540079040Then they need to relentlessly bully the ones who want a cap higher than 100 at stores
Wtf is this garbage
>>540078304The onus is entirely on KoA to actually push and support itIf they consistently work on the points list and push for it to be a real format it will take off as it has a lot of promise and potential to pull back older players
>>540079736>I like getting ripped off by Konami every 6 monthsSpoken like a true cuck.>>540079752Not even going to address this strawman. You know nothing about how standard rotation works, and I've addresses this exact point multiple times in the past already. At this point you're just repeating this in bad faith.
>>540077825Holy ESL
GGs Denko, the field spell buffing any Fiend in the EMZ by 1000 is a baffling decision that really fucks you over when you go up against a deck that can summon their own.
>>540079898Konami themselves admitting links and pends were a mistake.
Rotation in YGO doesn't work because the cards are expensive as fuck Yu need 200$ for a fucking decent pet deck
>>540079924The thing that would probably really screw it up is the fact the OCG is still making 90% of all cards and TCG doesn't have control over that. They can point them but that's the stuff that will only go so far since they will all be cards made without Genesys in mind.
Why is Deep Sea Aria at 33 look at the fucking Atlanteans hit dawg what are we gonna search with Aria
>>540080324Yeah that's fair, they are kind of at the mercy of the OCG's card design
member the time rules changes
>>540080324That's where tcg exclusive archetypes could really start to shine
Yeah I think a bunch of the ROTAs being at 33+ are probably just gonna be part of the growing pains and they'll be radically decreased because like, what is Bonfire gonna do with OSS at 100 and Ryzeals at 20-25 a copy?
>>540080397if it says search, it's unfair. unless it searches what I play. - Billy Brake, probably
>shitdeck format>but VS is there toothanks...
>>540080993Vanquish Soul only lives because Konami's overestimating Rock.However, they've made statements they will be updating points far more rapidly than the normal banlists, so that deck is the most likely to get hit into the sun first.
>>540080993>first month of your custom special format is unplayable>not because of some FTK, lock, searchable powercard>because theyported the best deck in the game without some Links
>>540081178>they've made statements they will be updating points far more rapidly than the normal banlistsUntil the format gets too popular and they realize they can milk players by refusing to hit new meta decks for Genesys.
>>540079898finally a alt format that uses the current card pool instead of being outdated shit
>>540081475That's what Advanced is for
>>540081726No one knows how it'll turn out later but points list was probably the best compromise to keep the Yugioh promise about all of its card pool. Now they need to make a points checker that actually works quickly
time wizard bros status?
>Pendulum is never good outside of a random week in the whole histoy of the game>Insta nuked
>>540082049I seem to recall some people found some code in Neuron a long time ago. Might be making that fully fledged to handle it.
>>540082168This is the payment they suffer for Yuya making the audience watch through egaowashing
>>540082147Time Wizard has gotta be completely fucked after the Genesys announcement. It was already falling apart with the new rule changes and Genesys just gave everyone a reason to leave it for a much more supported alt format.
>>540080016There are a lot of baffling decisions with these archfiends. Hosting again.
>>540082307>>540082168The display of Yuya's Egao views.
Pends were always the retarded gay son of the franchise
>>540082168this probably is a test run to see if the banlist can be replaced with the new system >electrumite 100 points
>>540082473Man, he is fucking retarded lol this works even better because he's talking to some poor orphan who had to actually struggle on the streets, I trust Crow to know what happiness is x999 times more than Yuya
I can't believe this new format is not perfectly balanced from inception, big shock!
>>540078304Gensys lives and dies on whether they're actually going to adjust the point costs and how long it'll take til the first instanceThey also need to push Neuron even harder, people need to have those points NOW before they can even think that they might be interested, that shit needs to be instantly accessible. The fuckass deckbuilder page they put out already shat itself
>>540082447>There are a lot of baffling decisions with these archfiends.such as?
To lazy to look at the point list, is it true most deck searcher have point on them ?
lol lmao
>>540082814Yes
What are some other decks that are good at boardbreaking with engine but not completely ass if they ever have to go first like Striker/Branded
>>540082694yup the website can barely hold it together
>>540082646Crow's visual backstory.
>>540082861Merlanteans
poop-v
>>540082861striker is not good at boardbreaking
>>540082307For me it's the Battle Beast mini-arc.
>>540082646
There's been a few times I remembered how terrible the Xyz arc was and almost laughed
>>540082851wow another instances of Konami acknowledge their method of deck searching is powerful and contributing to the whole game power creep
>>540082969You're kidding right?
I declare myself the strongest Genesys duelist on /dng/.No I will not duel today though, I am sleepy.
>>540083470no
>>540082745Duke being such a fucking wimp that after boosting to level 7 he can still only crash with Kanan the Swordmistress, Highness being a LIGHT fiend that immediately locks you out of any benefits of being a LIGHT fiend, Highness needing setup for her search despite only working on the fucking normal summon making her downright bricky when Heiress is already a brick, Doom Emperor only being able to pop faceups with his scale effect limiting his usage to outing floodgates and grind resources rather than actually dealing with an established board like his monster effect does, the monster effect only working when summoned to the EMZ meaning you HAVE to either resolve the scale effect or slip him in with Strategy, Strategy ALSO having a banish cost because Highness wasn’t enough apparently but I guess using it every turn kinda justifies this one, Vigor searching when banished but only from hand/field so if it’s in the gy it’s just a dead card, no ways to retrieve stuff from the gy so it becomes a REALLY dead card, the entire “what if a ritual was in the EMZ” meme in general etc.
So they killed raye....
So... what are the chances they rush out this new format for MD?
>>540083883Zero chance it's ever coming to MD. OCG is in constant seethe mode over anything TCG does. They keep Maxx C legal just because TCG banned it.
>>540083771>Genesys is shockingly close to a "DBP waifu archetypeless format" sans the lack of any Exosister hitlol
>>540083883adding a point system to the cards would be too hard for the 2 interns that still work on fart duel
>>540083339>the Xyz arcYou now know/remember Ciphers.
>>540082861Striker is good going first now because you have zero+lemnis to go along with your handtraps.
So, how are players supposed to ensure people aren't cheating in the format by going over the point cap?This entire thing sounds like a massive clusterfuck that would only ever work in a sim like Master Duel.I feel like a lit of people have shiny new toy syndrome right now, but the new format is ass and poorly conceived.
>>540083883An MD Genesys format would mean that Konami would have to give OCG players a format where Maliss isn't a top dog so 0, unless they print some retarded hard pivot into the other summoning mechanics like it's deviantart Striker support
>>540084120Post Urban Demise
>>540084120the idea of a hard going second archetype the steals your opponents shit and OTKs sounds amazingshame it's fucking garbage
>>540084136the same way you have to believe people are not cheating with the banlist
bbs friends talking about our new formathttps://bbs.animanch.com/board/5647314/
>>540083669Everyone resummonning themselves when a ritual is destroyed by battle is also comedy when none of them do anything on summon!And if you open doom you have to pop your own field spell with him to go trough your basic line. Very confusing why they wanted this deck to be this bad, people love the archfiends.
>>540084136Probably deck check and neuron integrationSince a lot of cards aren't hit you only really have to worry about power staples and meta archetypes, and the weird ass decks they hit like Glad Beasts and Lightsworn
>>540084136do you memorize the banlist?
>>540084324Yes.
>>540084315Also why do none of them work with Pandemonium, was it really too hard to replace the effects that tribute with destroying them instead? There's no way this is the permanent Archfiend gimmick so it's weird they didn't bother giving it an easy bridge to future Archfiend support
>>540084315I think you’re supposed to run 2 Doom since the ritual spell recovers itself if you have him in ED. During the standby of course, they can’t give it to you right away.
>>540084210Arc-V Edo's anime trap backlog.
>>540084136Every casual format is a meme, thats how you make a casual format.If a casual format had serious competitive rules then it would draw competitive people, clusterfuck is perfect for the audience they want for this and will keep away competitive players.
>>540083883Genuinely I don't believe it ever will just because Konami has shown utter disdain for anything that would involve work on the base implementation of the game and since Genesys runes on MR2 rules they'd have to redo the game board and that's too much work for the MD skeleton crew
>>540084136It's easier to deck check than the regular banlist.
>>540076070Lunalight look like arabian belly dancers (liger and leo have a schmitar blade too),more appealing to them
>>540084319But you have to calculate points. And you'd have to deck check before every duel due to side decking as well.
>>540083883MD is handled by the OCG and this is entirely by the TCG. I really don't see it happening.
>>540077418Genesys is the exact opposite of what should be done. This does nothing to solve product issues and doesn't solve the wide format issue where the expectations of casuals are improperly set. They're still going to be repelled by the gameplay complexity and being dumpstered by VS/K9/DT for one locals is still going to make them fall off. A standard format that ACTUALLY vacuums the power out of the game and curates the card pool properly needs to happen. Seeing this abortion makes me think it will never happen. Honestly this is the kind of shit idea that should have never made it past the drunken napkin scribble stage.
why the fuck did the made a boomer format where old decks are absolute garbage, oh no links are banned and the so POWERFUL pendulum is banned, vs base without link eat alive pre 2020 decks and you can play vsk9 this format is alredy dead
>>540084319did they really push this format without making deck builder that automate the point counting
>>540084478>100 ATK boostI really really want to know what Hikokubo was smoking when he thought of that effect
>>540063965>killing certain combos is the point behind the high costsDuel Links does it better, way better
>>540084667he was thinking of the AMAZING dystopia synergy
>>540084456PLEASE use Strategy
>>540084667Anything to trigger Dystopia's effect as a glorified Sakuretsu Armor I guess.
>>540084136Paper would submit deck lists with point totals.
>>540084657They did, it's just kinda slow as shit right now because they didn't expect that much activity
i like the concept of everything being legal but only playable if you build for it of course there needs to be some additional work with the point system since some decks like vsk9 are too playable not sure why they excluded pends/links since they also can work under this new system
vanquishisses, response?
>>540064653Point is that you can piece which combos you want and what is worth points.Do you want a one card mirrorjade? thats 100 points.Now you could discard your one card jade line in exchange for more lines with quem and cartesia that can now fit. Or you could discard jade for another boss monster. Gives you a lot more interesting choices and options.
>>540084872>not sure why they excluded pends/links since they also can work under this new systemBecause are both garbage mechanics that never should have been made to begin with.
>>540084872it's to make the zones appear as simple as possible
>>540084668point system is better for fine tuning and consistency hits which konami loves to do semi limits are 40 pointslimit is everything over 60 points
>>540084976You’re going to brick on limbs and you know it
>>540082147I regret not selling my Edison and HAT format trunks when I had the chance. But that goes for most of my collection. All of it basically worthless now and not getting a chance to sort through it for dollar+ value cards probably cost me thousands.
>>540084976
>>540084976The anime literally has an episode about why running 3 of each piece is bad
>>540085106maybe you would, not me
>>540085073the actual game doesn't change at allits just a banlist system change
>>540084872The pend/link thing is blatantly just to pander to boomers who feel left behind by those mechanicsLike you could argue that taking away links makes sense for a lower power format since they're the source of most of the modern degeneracy of advanced but throwing pends in there too when they don't do jack shit makes it clear it's just an attempt at appeasing modern yugioh haters
>>540081178Oh so it's a banlist that changes every week? I'm sure this won't become annoying to manage.
>>540083883It's more likely they made this new format because of MD as a whole reclining the way it did.
im so glad they went with something like this and not something asinine like highlander or something, this is really the best outcome for a casual format possible.
>>540085315Not weekly. Monthly seems to be the likely rate.
>>540084976enjoy your brick
this point system is the best ground for Konami to experimenting "pair banlist"
>>540085384>casual formatThe deck that won worlds is free to play in this format.
>>540085290ok you have to admit there is some amount of change with all links completely removed
It's so fucking bad. What is the Blue-Eyes equivalent of this card? There's no point in asking about Red-Eyes, this is still better than most of their cards.
>>540085304>just to pander to boomers who feel left behind by those mechanicsremember when boomers were summoning the egyptian gods in qliphorts? i do remember
>>540085483there would be no difference if every link had a cost of 100 points
>>540085489The red-eye equivalent is dragoon thoughBlue-eyes would be uhh twinburst?
>>540085474yeah and other meme formats like commander have multiple decks that can win turn1 or 2. Casual is about attitude, a tier0 format with roids at the top is not more casual than a tier0 format with tear at the top.
>>540084478Reminder that these are from the same series as this
>>540085379https://steamdb.info/app/1449850/charts/>July peak with 40.000>August and September lost 15.000>Close to lost half of the player >September haven't end yet
>>540085619But the visuals matter or at least they think the zones appearing simpler matter a lot. It also probably feels better to them to start a 2nd format where the zones are visibly clearly distinct from advanced (like Rush also being different with only 3 mzs) and show that image to anyone who's curious
>>540085784Yugioh players won't modulate power level to find satisfying games. Commander is a casual format in its design. cEDH is a weird spectacle format and most people don't play high power since it defeats the purpose of the show and tell nature of the format. Yugioh players have no concept of casual play. Cubes never took off here and the game's design really limits the amount of fun you can have when you're not the one who gets the bully the opponent this round.
Genesys is just a scam.> No bans but a bunch of cards are at 100 points.Gee, thank you. Now I can play my childhood favourite Dark Magician deck with Red Eyes Dark Dragoon, except I am forbidden from playing a single handtrap, boardbreaker or any kind of staple for that matter. More than 50 points for any cards is just a ban on it. There can't be any competitive deck playing a card worth more than 50 points inside it.> No bans but every Link and Pendulum card is banned.Why? I can understand Pendulum since modern card design actively avoids making new Pendulum decks, but why ban Links? Is summoning 2 monsters and sending them to the GY for an Extra Deck monster that fucking hard? It's just Synchros without Tuners and Levels. Why kill 33% of archetypes? Even many boomer archetypes got Link support and without them they can't keep up with modern meta.> No bans but many archetypes got murdered via the point system.Most YCS winning decklists from the last 10 years I could think of can't be played under the 100 point limit, much less be adapted to modern yugioh to include handtraps/boardbreakers.> VSK9 is playable with 3 Shifter.Yeah, I think this is just a format to push multiple product at the same time. You will buy deck X for the TCG and deck Y for Genesys. Expect the TCG banlist to murder XYZ, Synchro and Fusion based decks like they did with Vanquish Soul so they can thrive in Genesys and leave Link decks untouched in the TCG.
>>540086097Currently, we have DCBut i'm not surprise if Maliss DC does not bump the number a bit
>>540085619ah yes lets clutter the banlist with a bunch of irrelevant garbage so one degenerate can play traptrix sera in his traptrix deck
>>540086182>except I am forbidden from playing a single handtrapYou didn't even look at the fucking list
revolverbros.... dragonlinkbros....how are we supposed to sell bpro with genesys format....
>>540086182this format is doa anon
>>540086097Holy shit>February Anniversary>+45.000>Next month>-41.000People just spit out the game as soon as the anniversary end
>>540086182>with Red Eyes Dark Dragoon, except I am forbidden from playing a single handtrapif you play unfair cards thats exactly what you deserve
>>540071964>then that would be what's colloquially referred to as a "Skill Issue"Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission and it's consequences
>>540084976https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR6Q551wfwk&t=917s
I'm black and my gf looks like this
>>540086324Mulcharmies, Bystials, Ghost Sisters, Psy-Framegears, Dominus Traps, Imperm, Veiler, Droll, Nibiru, Shifter all require points.Did (You) look at the list?
Tbh it is pretty funny to think about a designated cuck Link/Pend list in which there's a blanket link/pend ban except for the link/pends on the list
I'm not a /g/ tranny; how hard would it be to program the genesys site to sort by point cost? This is ridiculous
Thinking about it, the visuals of xyz summoning in Vrains looked better than link summoning
>>540086182It's a desperate attempt to push product because anything that isn't tier 1 doesn't sell anymore. Their strategy is to use genesys to sell whatever doesn't quite make the cut, but it's just a bandaid to the fundamental problems with the game.
>>540086861It's not fucking hard to put 3 pot of greed in your deck
>>540086861just do it in excel you lazy faggot
>Most casual shitters relied on links (Crystron Halqifibrax was HYPER defended by casuals using it on garbage decks, ignoring that halq was murdering other casual decks by ripping their tuners to shreds) and a lot of petdecks bank on simple stuff like Almiraj to unclog their zones>A great deal of fanfavorite anime decks have link monsters relevant to their gameplay (HERO comes to mind) and without them, they struggle to do basic plays>Of the decks that don't give a shit about links and pendulums that come from the anime, only a select few are good and even those decks banked on other engines (i.e. Yubel on Unchained, a deck that uses Links) or got point restrictions anyways>Supposed gamestate to make less popular decks be the competitive face, proceeds to have VSK9 in a very playable state with pairadice legalAnd your next line is going to be "BUT KONAMI CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THINGS".t. ex-common charity player, waiting for the meta to be anything but Lunalight futadicking everything.
>>540086876Xyz shoukan
>>540086884I'm surprised they're even attempting one bandaid though, before the year 2030
>>540086861actual professional programmer here, literally easy as shitthe "hardest" part is assigning each point to each card but you can always get some chump intern to do that manually in 2-3 hours for you at most if all else fails
>they hit dangerssoulless
>>540086981They're doing 6 Genesys YCS side events and are planning on hosting a Genesys only YCS so it's pretty safe to assume they've put quite a lot of eggs into this basket
Dragon Drive.
>>540086548If you sell a format under the "No bans" tag, you should be able to play those cards on a semi-decent deck. 100 points isn't prohibiting a specific combo. You could just do that by placing both combo cards at 51, allowing for some staples to be played. 100 points is not a "nerf", it's killing any deck that runs it, which is effectively a ban on the card. Therefore, Genesys having "No bans" is just a scam.
why did they hit glad beast?
>>540087004Whoever back in zexal made the idea of xyz summons opening a star vortex space gate hit on something
Casuals think they want a "no banlist" format. Casuals are retarded.
links make decks way too consistent link-1s with 1 card combos are bullshit and result in engines being way too compact allowing decks to run an excess amounts of handtraps and searchers for the 1 card combo
midtier format to push the petdeck packfiller and get casuals its bad because...uhm.....
>>540087217Well, their basket has a shitloads of holes at the moment.
>>540087489it's bad because some decks and cards (i.e. VS and shifter) are basically not hit by the limitations at all for seemingly no justifiable reasonsalso i can't play my casual dogshit link and/or pend decks
>>540087489casuals don't play yugioh because they don't like the game consisting of 2-3 turns that take 10 minutes each.
>>540087217Just look at all of the kiketubers coming out of the wood and acting like this is the hottest shit ever. This is unironically their last gamble
>first, surprise, and rejectionThen, exploration of the concept and some enthusiasm >now we are back and rejection and some apathyAt least play a fucking game or tournament with the format guys.
>>540087235some cards are way too strong to be put at anything lower than 100
>Maxx c 50 point >Max 2 in deckis there working none meme deck with this setup ?
>>540086876The pre-director change of the Link summoning viusals
dont care, still playing stun in genesys
>>540087651i will refuse to play until they kill VS, that deck will be even more dominant than it is in the current format there is literally no justification to hive it zero hitsshifter being easy as shit to afford while it and exosister have no hits is monumentally retarded as well
>>540087671any deck with 0 cost could run 2 maxx csbut would you really want to play that when you could play 3 izuna+lupus instead
>>540087689kek it was way too slow for link summoning, but I kind of get why an older aged director who liked mecha would have thought of something like this
>>540087656in what world baronne is worse than dragoon
>>540086587flatcclesia wishes she had gazongas like these
wait a minute this new format doesn't say anything about side deck ? because everytime you side decking a card there's need to be point check to make sure it doesn't go over the limit. Unless side deck point card also count to the main deck point.
>>540086429Konami decides what format we play, not the players. If 2024 ought to be Tier 0 500$ Snake-Eyes, then that's what will be played, whether you like it or not. If current Master Duel has to be Maliss and 5 Maxx "C"/Fuwalos bullshit then so be it.They will host exclusive Genesys YCSs, competitive playes will attend those YCSs and Yugitubers will popularize the format by making videos about it, showing combos, and theorycrafting decklists.Konami has been planning this for 2 years, they have attacked Time Wizard and they have reprinted banned cards such as Pot of Greed or Chaos Ruler in the latest sets. This is all planned from a long time and coordinated throughout the whole company. From banlist making, to tournament organization to product design.Genesys will be a format for a long time, whether you like it or not.
>>540087489Because it doesn't fix the underlying gameplay problems with modern card design. It's just a shittier banlist with more steps that tries to win retards over by banning all pends and links.
>>540088110>The total point cost of cards in your Main Deck, Extra Deck, and Side Deck (combined) cannot exceed the point cap for that event.
>>540059223yugiboomer here, ive been seeing this genesys thing posted around and it seems like it will actually save ygo. i shared it with old friends who quit long ago and they are excited to play.
>>540088057baronne doesn't have targetting protection the only decent out to dragoon is typhon
Who else coping rn
>>540088230thx for the confirmation
>>540088110The cards in your side deck count towards your point limits.People doing 100-point decks are going to be eating shit game 2 and 3 due to not having any flexibility at all in their deck building and side decking options.Unless you consider shit like mst or forbidden chalice to be good side deck cards.
>>540088112>people quit the game insteadlol
>>540087656Dragoon, for example, is completely legal in the TCG. And in Genesys the only deck that summons it consistently (Branded) is hit to the ground. Why can't it be at 50 points? If the reason is that Red-Eyes Fusion is too generic, you can just put Red-Eyes Fusion to 15 points and you will get a similar result, without killing Dragoon.And this is just an example, I don't have any particular attachment to that card, but the same logic applies to multiple high-point cards.
>>540088112Putting effort into a bad idea doesn't make the idea better.
>>540088232>a yugiboomer knows about this place after a few hours of the announcementFake and gay
they will need to hit shifter hard even if the decks that abuse it also got hit, it's absolutely not a 5 points card
>>540087671>>540087930LELsome yugi tuber already bait tweeting with "2 Maxx C"
What are some free handtrap/non-engine? My petdeck engine barely fits under 100
>>540087949>but I kind of get why an older aged director who liked mecha would have thought of something like thisAt least the main mecha doing a sequence like that usually happens once an episode compared to the multiple Link Summons in a typical duel.
>>540088407they are saying that they will adjust the points depending on usage rate shit like shifter will be put to 60 or something
>>540088451ive been here since the beginning bitch.
>>540088557d.d. crow is at 0the charmies/droll/veiler have also low cost
>>540088783>low cost2 of each purrely cat, 3 sleepy, and 1 stray is 100 exactly :(
>>540088557time for you to prove everybody wrong and show that skull meister actually does somethingadd some dd crows too
Since the Springans Episode is coming out, I wonder what the support will be for them.
Chaos hunter is free. Was that in oversight? It seems better than other floodgates considering you can do it turn 0
>>540089027It's only ever been good in very specific formats
>>540088407I think the logic is that they want those 100 cost cards to be actually used by the petdecks they were created for.Like>you wanna play dragoon? Sure, play it in a dark magician deck with polymerization
i have been trying to load the values/make a deck for hours but the fucking site doesnt load anything holy fuck
>>540089154time to open up excel and use the addition function
>>540089154https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/2025/sep/yugioh-genesysjust scroll down and look at them here
>>540089027lancea is also free and there's almost no reason to play hunter over lancea
>>540089154https://ygoprodeck.com/deckbuilder/this one works
>>540088623If they really were willing to fine-tune the format according to usage rates and decrease the points of many high-point cards, then they should have started with a blank slate banlist, with only obvious Tier 0 and FTK cards getting hit. Instead we got a 500 cards mess.They will adjust points to sell their new Xyz, Synchro, Fusion based deck that underpeformed in the TCG, or they will ban that deck in the TCG to sell the underpeforming Link deck.Genesys banlists update will take an unknown number of months to be release just like the TCG and they will be instrumentalized to sell product. Just think how many TCG cards are still banned that could come out. Now tell me that that 500 card mess will somehow get its points adjusted for each card instead of leaving them untouched for years like in the TCG.
>>540087949>mecha
>Mixing Droplet with Hand trapsWhat gives? I thought it was 18 hand traps or bust.
Super poly is only 10, and no links means there's one less variable to keep it live. Might be bretty good>>540089284didn't notice that
>>540088648common, you're 30+?
>>540089284Hunter is a 2500 body on field that works well with Regenesis, which has potential to be a decent deck in this format.
Which waifu deck I can play in this format
>>540089467that's not me, i've been malding all day about the fact that the new format is promising but it did not hit VS at all
>>540089593amazons harpies
>>540089642for VS it feels they are waiting for DOOD to not kill sales
>>540089131100 points isn't establishing the condition that you can only play a certain card in its pet deck. It is just a ban on it. Poor Dark Magician Yugiboomer that wants to play Dragoon can't even fucking play Allure of Darkness in its shit-ass DARKmonsters.dek because it has a 5 point restriction on it. You get absolutely gutted for daring to play a 100 point card that is perfectly legal in the TCG.
Hey I wonder how my petdeck fairs in genesys>e-tele is FORTY (40) pointsWhat the fuck lol
>>540089593Exosister?
genesys got me interested in the tcg as an mdfag, but then i checked out the card shops around me and they all dropped yugioh 2+ years agoand apparently the nearest ots is over 50 miles awayis yugioh dead? are you all bots? what the fuck is going on here
>>540090138we all play the superiorest format of them all: pre-release TCG banlist on edopromost people here gave up on paper/locals a long time ago
>>540090006Punk is fine with 2 copi...>no Almirajeh, it's still ok, I think?
>>540090006
>>540090138tcg is pretty dead which is why this format exists. konami is trying to stop the game from dying out entirely
>>540089731>harpies>no Harpie Conductor and no Simorgh>no Tribrigade cope>Feather Storm is 100
>>540088275Speaking from years of experience with VW: Gaia Dragon would probably do more for you than the extra Cloudcastle in a list like this. 4 mat Zeus is way more useful than a lot of the second stringers since you have to wipe your gates off the field anyway. Once you Zeus once you really need another to prevent the opponent from walking over you. I'd play one copy of Toutou for rank 6 access. Kill Brain Con, Avarice, and Call of the Haunted. The Sneedroids kind of blow if your only rank 3 is Break Sword. Either cut the Sneedroids or play something like Asura King or the Virtue package. Play Foolish Burial Goods. I also really like Malong since it's flexible, allows you to get to level 8 and 10 synchros while breaking boards. You gain access to cards like Draco Berserker, Scarlight, and Swordsoul Sovereigns. Mind listing your point allocations?
>Boxing out playing multiple fusionsOh come on Combined creation was designed with being able to send another copy, that's like giving Mali a high point cost to box out playing 3. Also Malicious didn't even get points.
>>540089994It makes sense. Dragoon against decks that might not even run a single handtrap might be crazy
>>540090636Woops that picture was from before I double checked and realized it was fusion who had 33 points instead of Combined creation.I need one more stupid fusion target.
>>540086587But Albaz is a Mexican Muslim
>you can make VSK9 just fine in this format>Quinquery is free>Mjollnir is nowhere to be seenLmao, what the fuck
>>540090873Mulcharmy Fuwalos against decks that run 0 staples is what is crazy. Casual play has ZERO place in Genesys. This is just TCG banlist #2. YCSs and Regionals on even months will run on TCG banlist #1 while YCSs and Regionals on uneven months will run on TCG Banlist #2. Take out your wallet because you now need 2 decks if you want to be competitive.
>>540091049they didn't even restrict pair-a-dice
>>540090284I was talking about MYUTANTS
What are some good 0 point rewards for decks that draw a lot? They banned all my floodgates :(
>>540091513Solemn Wishes
>>540090514Lulu - 9Terrortop - 9Gamma - 30Veiler - 7Shenshen - 20Zeus - 20
>>540091462Gotta sell that VSK9 deck that got raped in the last TCG banlist anon. TCG banlist #2 will make sure every last remaining Hollie Sue and Pair-A-Dice gets sold out. We can't allow TCG banlist #1 to hurt our vendors.
>>540091513>What are some good 0 point rewards for decks that draw a lot?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O1Z-TZdfx0
even collector focused facebook groups have the boomers itching to duel again, genesys saved ygo. though one question is do you think konami reprinted sjc prize cards just for this, or do you believe konami had these laying around?
Naturia Vernusylph in this format seems legit, you only need one Nat Beast and staples, sad that you can't add both Beast and Barkion, though>3 copies of KeldoLol, lmao, nice
>>540092081fenrir and barrier statue were kind of essential
leave vsk9 to me
>>540092173You can do just fine without Fenrir and Barrier Statue sucks ass against VSK9. You might as well floodgate the opponent with other stuff like Rosewhip, Bamboo Shoot or play Vera into Grandtusk Dragon, hell even Regulus as a negate is free
what deals with this /dng/
>>540092292go for it, boomer...! i believe in you...
Can't wait to sell my starlight pot of greed
I just found out that edopro will shit the bed if you have too many tuner in hand and on field
>>540092292based
Can you activate two copies of Dark Contact per turn?
>>540092576Yes.
>>540092576yes
Do the points count towards the side deck or just the main deck and Extra?
>>540092676Yes
>>540092576Yes that's the new thing spells that are literally two cards rolled into one.
>Norden is 91 pointsFeels a bit excessive when noodles are already 100
>>540092676>The total point cost of cards in your Main Deck, Extra Deck, and Side Deck (combined) cannot exceed the point cap
>>540092676it counts for everythingretard
>>540092714>>540092906Thanks.
>>540090006>>540090345PEP is 20 and the rest of the lineup is free except for mind master's 1>Omega is banned, lambda doesn't exist>shenshen is 20>so you get half an extra deck and one e-teleFormat blows>My nigga fishborg is THIRTY THREE points for no reasonFormat blows hobos
>>540092904Norden (91) is choice restricted with Metamorphosis (10)
>Dogmatika Ecclesia, the Virtuous 3 pointswhat are they afraid of I thought they wanted you to play the lore decks
>>540093004Wait wait wait >Omega is 100 points so you can’t even run him in actual Psy-FramesEXTREMELY cringe
VSK9 being completely legal in the format they are trying to push as casual is fucking hilarious.
>>540093182It's gonna get point nuked after the first ycs.
>>540093040super poly is also at 10 lel
>>540093109Nadir is 33 so if you want to max it out you only get 1 slut>Diviner 33 while Arc Light is 50They hate rituals for some reason
>>540093323You can't run Dogmatika Ecclesia at all if you have triple Nadir
>super quant is untouchedIt's Magnus time, goy.
>>540093323>Diviner 33there goes my chance to play Agents
The best part of genesys is that it will show yugiboomers that their shitty ideas don't work in practice. Konami can't even properly support the main game and people think they will properly balance this shit fest? They think this will bring the game back to normal summon and pass? they are in for a treatJust bring rush duels over or something if you want to make it look like youre doing something
>>540093109Dogmatika Ecclesia is meant to search for “the fallen and the virtuous”.A seemingly simple quickplay spell that would actually be the most flexible asset of Branded’s toolbox.
>>540088897Actually, 1 stray shouldn't be a big issue. Veiler and imperm should be less common now.
OSS should not be 100 if Poplar/Diabellestar are worth any points, I have a petdeck that relies on searching it without using the normal
Fuck your handtraps, I will play uninterrumpted :)>>540093519at first you will see some boomer decks like >>540092292trying to pass through the cracks until they realize they're getting filtered no matter what.
>>540093609We aren't getting Fallen and Viruous in the TCG for a while, don't think they're thinking that far ahead for genesys.
Being able to have no ED is a huge buff because you can run more broken main deck cards
>>540093864what decks can do that besides monarch/draco?
>>540093819TCG:●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)Next month acktshually :^)
>>540092292can't wait to see the unholy deep draw bamboo sword lists while everyone skips on droll since he costs 7 whole points a copy
>>540093919Most ritual decks I suppose
>Be me>Yugiboomer>Spend my days talking shit about the modern game and reminiscing about set Ryko pass>The good ol' days>It is September 2025>Konami finally got their heat out their asses and killed Trandulums and Twinks>Finally, some good fucking food>Call up the squad, it's time to hit up our old hunting ground>Our harpie's hunting ground if you will>Sleeve up my old deck from back in the day>Put on my favorite yugioh shirt from hot topic I bought back in 2013>Get to the first tournament of the yugioh rennaissance>Some troon sits across me round 1>Scoff at them, they will leave the game soon anyways now that their nu-shit is dead>Roll die>Win the die roll, go first>Draw my starting hand, perfectly execute a T-set pass>Troon draws for turn>Normal summons some blue-haired commie faggot>I die in that turn>Same thing happens game 2>This happens to me the next three rounds>Round 5 I get a double game loss for going into time>Things were not supposed to be this way>Screw you Tewart
>>540093919Regenesys?
>>540093960>chicken game free>upstart free>into the void 1>droll 7kek. what funny engines will hyperconsistency unlock
>>540093864Domain and Erupt have point costs.
You probably will put most point into handtraps right? Since with handtraps you can almost always beat gimmicky decks and your winrate will be good in shit decks format as well
>>540094285Chain Energy doesn't. though
>>540093774Yeah I really hope that cards like it and Dragoon get their points dropped down fast, I do not think Snake Eyes or Dragoon are a problem, and realistically they could be at like 20
>>540093519Meh, even the current game is fine as is, but it tends to be shitty links annoying me the most.Blue eyes and Metalmorph are both modern decks with incredible power compared to the old days, but still easy to enjoy and follow by Yugiboomers.And honestly I think most yugiboomers were still playing during 2012~, they probably got to see stuff like Inzektors, Blackwings and Yusei synchro goodstuff. Summoning a lot isn't a foreign concept.But Links tend to do it in very annoying ways because it feels unstoppable, like, they'll GET their boss monsters on the field as long as any body hits their board. No Poly, no tuner, it tends to be as simple as throwing any random minster to the field and starting a link climbing chain & activating GY effects of the monster sent to the GY to get even more cards. Feels dishonest compared to main deck monsters.Although shit like Branded and Whiteforest Diebellestar Azamina are the highest tier of cancer and they do it mixing synchros and fusions. That's to blame on Konami.I fucking despise how they started adding every ED mechanic to some decks, PUNK also comes to mind, feels impossible to stop because they can pivot to any summoning method (yes BEWD also does it but it's soulful)
>>540094439> I do not think Snake Eyes is a problemkill yourself>but OSS 100shut it tranny
>>540094395The best decks for the format will always be the ones with strong engines that are untouched and that can grab the most point efficient non-engine.
>>540091664Here's what I came up with. Lulu - 9Gamma - 30Veiler - 21Shenshen - 20Zeus - 20Gamma without a level 8 synchro misses out on one of his better conversions. I hadn't read Serene Psychic Sorceress before but playing her without Axon Kicker or Teleport Fusion seems like a waste. Hop Ear Squadron is just my pet card but I like the idea of layering interruptions and I ran out of ideas. Basically:>get to Serene through Lulu, set fusion, Hop Ear Serene away into Draco Berserker to bounce a card, have a new interruption through Draco Berserker, Teleport Fusion Axon using Lulu + SereneYou can also just use Serene as material for Lars and find something less gimmicky and high roll to put in those three slots. I don't have a full grasp of what zero point cards would actually do well. You're probably better off playing traps in that place.
>>540094439They also made Ponix 10 points, so much for Hazy Fire Kings. What the fuck would Snake-Eyes actually do without links, the dreaded Rank 1 plays?
Ash and all the other staple hand traps should be 20, the uncommon hand traps should be 10. You should not be able to play more than two sets of hand traps. The format is to try to appease casuals and they every hand trap except Max "C" because they think C punishes Combo decks.
They kill my boi Jusei ...
>>540094713The format is for experienced players.
>>540093960If you stick to SOULFUL handtraps, you can play your petdeck mostly the same as today.45 for x3 Ash, 66 adding x3 Droll.. 80 x2 veiler... 100 x2 Nibiru...That's pretty much all the handtraps, you're just missing Impermanence but I tend to see it as overkill anyway, I always wanted something like this to have an excuse to PLAY LESS handtraps in my deck because honestly I joined the game to play with my favorite monsters, it sucks feeling half the deck with cards I don't give a shit about. You should still comfortably pull off the same plays with those.
>>540094543What is SE doing with no Links and most of the generic Synchros with sigificant costs and Diabellstar and Azamina with significant costs
>veilerYou can just grab 2 belle, 2 orge for the same 20 points. Even mourner is a 7 pts card. This new format is really just which deck can abuse non-engine the most
>>540094713Maxx C being so costly is stupid, 20 or 15 should be fine. It IS the offensive answer to combo decks.Instead of trying to stop them with Droll or Ash, you're gambling on drawing enough crap to beat them.. And in this format, you wouldn't be drawing any particularly strong cards considering the points system, so Maxx should be comfortably at x3 the only reason it isn't is to sell Fuwalos the most expensive staple right now.Hell I'm fine with 25, that way a playset is 75 and you have room for 1 big handtrap or a couple of weak ones, but nothing too crazy.
>>540095213what's the best deck with a free engine?
>>540094504>Branded>and they do it mixing synchros and fusions. Branded does actual fusion plays, but are locked from synchros most of the time until turns 3 and 4. It functions with Dogmatika qualities and the lines were so blurred between the two, that their EDs feature the same cards.Viable white forest azamina barely has any locks on their cards, and I will argue that Azamina is more of a ritual deck in functionality, treating the fusions with similar summonings as ritual monsters.
>>540095298Exosister, evil twin, prank, artmage (?), earth machine, so many
>>540095298Vanquish Soul nigga.
I just learned about the new format>no pendulumsWHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
>>540095259The point system you see is meant to be adjusted. 100 is the minimum.This is a testing phase format trying to see how they should balance cards and points. With 100 being the maximum value a card could have.
>>540095649so you can kys faggot
>>540095640that's obviously not going to stay for long
>>540095649Because no one likes them, tranny.
>>540095546>prank & twin without Link
Enneacraftbros... I don't feel so good...
>card of safe return 40>Manticore of darkness 0Hold on I'm being retarded for a minute here
Konami is obviously going to adjust this based on what the yugitubers say. Enjoy your e-celeb format papercucks.
hosting genesys 100 points
>>540095649Pendniggers deserve the rope
>>540095804>Konami is obviously going to adjust this based on what the yugitubers say.unlike the TCG banlist?
why did they use this weird point systemthey could've just used a tier system like Rush?like T1 card = you can only have one T1 cardand etc.instead they have to assign a bunch of arbitrary points to a bunch of cards, and they can still mesh together, or are weak together, and doesn't account for synergies
>>540096117Because it tricks retards into thinking that the format is skillful and their choices matter
what do the nips think of genesys?
>>540095649No one likes Pendtrannies? When will you troons get it thru their skull that no one likes them are anything associated with them?
>>540095936Where
>>540096117>>540096220neck yourselves rushtrannies, no one plays your dead game for a reason>>>/vg/rdg>>>/lgbt/
>>540096237they are unironically jealous
>>540096534wait, is it tcg only?
>ctrl+f tistina>0 resultsTistina won
>>540096117the rush/duel links banlist format is ass, this point system is way more versatile
>>540096570yes
Hosting GENESYS on EU casual100 points
>>540096570Only TCG (the west) produces weak men who ran away with their tails between their legs to an alternative format. Only TCG (the west) knelt to boomers and nostalgianiggers
>>540096596Masq was key for pisstina, though. How do you send miasma to grave both turns?
>>540096736By detaching it from varudras(20p)?
>>540096731dilate more pendtranny LMAO
>>540096570Yep. The OCG doesn't really do alternate format like the TCG. The Tactical-Try format is the OCG's first real attempt.
>macro cosmos and dfissure are freecome on konami
>>540096875kek what? I didn't even bother to checkthat simplifies my purrely deck
>>540096237They complain that it cannot be doneAlso shitting on Link and KoJ toohttps://yugioh-starlight.com/lite/archives/59431431/comments/2943788/?p=4
>>540096971You hit 90 just by maxing out purrely and sleepy
>>540097097I know, hence >>540088557
>Number 16: Shock Master 100 points>Number 43: Manipulator of Souls 100 points
>>540095692>With 100 being the maximum value a card could have.For now, at least. In their second blog post they explicitly said "We’ll talk about multiple point cap variants in another article!"https://yugiohblog.konami.com/2025/genesys/why-do-a-point-system-at-all/100 could be the just the initial run and then a lot of cards will be spiking as they introduce more point value variants as standard. After all, if they don't then you get the issue of those FTK combos that are currently stopped entirely by 1 card at 100 point and the other card at 1 point.
>>540097074firefox is scared of moonrunes. Translate a few funny posts please
>>540096875Broken Helios/Alchemy Beast support soon.
this'll do the trick
>>540097754>die to FTKngmi
>>540097754>no pendulums>no metalfoes>metalfoes fusion is still used as discard fodderI fucking hate Konami so much.
Is VSK9 playable without Rock?
I have to ask. Why two?
>>540097902>discussing linksget with the times
>>540097902one for each boob
>>540097902konami's lore/story pet archetype
>>540097754nevermind, terraforming is 33. replace that and chicken game with skull meisters, probably
>>540097902No one cares about unplayable shit here
We need a new general for genesys now
>>540098790Let's call it genesyssies general
>ctrl + f artmage>0 resultLMAO this has to be the most blatant new product shill I have seen
>>540098790don't bother, this shit will be dead in a few weeks
>>540099063Or maybe the cards are just bad
>macro-cosmos, necroface: free>3 shifters : 15>3 gold sarcs : 30what else could I use for a metaphys deck?
>>540099785Triple Crossout: 30
>>540099785crossout costs 10 each
>>540099570Yeah? What else are you gonna play?
>>540097989I play the deck. It’s just I don’t see any benefits for it.In standard tri-brigade, I would have already have used Nerval.The link-4 and link-5 are only cards to send over to get a plus 2, which massively suck on the ED space since the other guy requires another ED monster for the payoff, which would be another Mouser (Konami… why?), the Albaz fusions that are end-phase benefits that don’t work in your favor in Tri-brigade at all, and that super poly bird for a draw). The other two ED targets would be Kitt and Barren Blossom, (add a card to your add, shuffle the other one, cuck effects)The only main deck target left would be tri-brigade mercourier.In the end, this effect doesn’t achieve much at all in improving the turn 1 end board, or make the deck better going second.
>>540059573>flip just desserts>flip ceasefire>flip secret barrel
Hmm...less than ideal and its a bit preliminary, but I also don't strictly hate this.
>>540098732Yeah yeah, back to the retirement home grandpa.
genesystersgenesyssieswhat's our FTK options?
>>540100503Wait, no way ult slayer is free when shit like book of moon costs 7
>>540100834you can set book turn 1, same with chalice
I was about to ask about how good appliancer were in genesys... That's not fair...
>>540100503I'd just cut the Centurion cards and use those points for something else, really.
>>540094592Bless you anon
how many archetypes DONT have links or pends>synchro shitoften used links>fusionsleast used links>XYZsometimes used links
>>540101281Azamina and Diabellestar stuff is much more costly
Maybe some sort of stun heavy krawler variant could work
>Diviner 33>Arc Light 50Man
>>540101561Issue with links missing is a bunch of archetypes got 1 busted link monster back when links where needed to continue summoning other extra deck types.
>metamorphosis send eldlich for st. azaminasick. ygoprodeck has a couple dozen lists already
>Dragoons 40>Neptabyss 33Too lenient, they should be way higher
>>540101280rest in peace roboppi
>>540101521I changed some things. The Sneedroids ended up being kind of important since an interruption can end your turn and flexibility is absolutely necessary. They can convert into a VW body or materials and Taketomborg isn't completely dead as an extender. Cutting Veiler for Ogre freed up six points which allowed me to fit two Terrortops in. Hop Ear still seems decent to me but I'll need to test him a lot. For now the free hand traps seem to be the way to go. Axon Kicker and Serene are genuinely great cards.
>vfd legalruh roh
>no artmage on list>river stormer not eitherNeat, could do the dumbass k9 artmage thing.
resonators to the moon lets fucking GOOO!!!(i saw someone posted an exodia ftk deck, i might change some handtraps to fit in droll)
Can I use my Tachyon deck in Genesys format? I noticed only infinity dragon cost 33 points. Help?
I think it's important that we hate this new format because it guts so many archetypes. Why couldn't they just slap points onto Pends and Links?
>>540101281Auxilla is able to recover cards from having been banished and allows for Centur-Ion to be able to handle Shifter. Being at 33 means a way is needed to recycle it if it gets destroyed, which is where Emeral comes in.Azamina and Diabellstar could theoretically reach a higher ceiling, though the point costs can make this a bit debatable, but having stuff you can do to deal with Shifter seems more important.>>540100834Book of Moon is a quick-play allowing for it to be used as interruption, whereas Ultimate Slayer is a normal spell so its primary use would be for boardbreaking.
>>540102936It's pretty obviously just meant to bait boomers and maybe as a curiousity for people who like playing shitdecks.
>>540102936laziness(for links) and hatred (for pends). Links are so broken they probably figured their banlist would be 1000+ cards if they had to hit links and associated archetypes and didn't want it to be overwhelming. Pend monsters themselves are the least broken thing about the mechanic so that was 100% out of spite.
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>>540102936Links are so generic that I can very easily see them causing problems in choosing between them and main deck cards due to how easily accessible they are. They even strongly compete with a ton of extra deck cards, while being in the conversation for every single deck that can put monsters on board in any manner. Just think of stuff like S:P, Accesscode, and Appolossa are to place.So Links got eliminated. Now the question becomes do you revert Pendulum to MR3 with special rules for this one format or eliminate it too. With what happened back in 2020 when they revised MR4 so Fusion, Synchro, and XYZ were all free of Links, they probably didn't want to have to deal with whatever Pend had gotten up to with 5 additional years of the Link guardrails, as well as the general factor that Konami really doesn't seem to like implementing special rules on a gameplay level given the whole Time Wizard/Time Travel fiasco.
>>540103060I think it's more about the fact that pends are tied at the hip to links and they're not reversing MR4 for them so they might as well give them the boot
>>540102936>Why couldn't they just slap points onto Pends and Links?because they want casuals to play this format
>>540100701Gallis
Its unbelievable to me how many people blatantly miss the point of genesys and expose how low IQ the average yugitranny is in the processSo many mindbroken posts about how X cant finally dominate this format with their braindead autowin retard shit at full power that couldn't compete in the real game
"VSK9 with no hits" yeah except that running a single ripper+the izuna lupis package prevents them from running a single other staple and the second they run into a single mirror force theyre left playing with their VS cards without the ability to go into rocks
