*pffftffftthhhhtttfftppttf*>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>540070085
sex with the doorman!!!!
thicc ass
Nth for cdr tesla victor
>>540136354source?
what if..echo shard HOOK bebop????
>>540137274my support
Dota heroines>all kinds of attractivenessDeadlock women>grotesque, unfinished, copy-pasting of prior art, alien
>>540137842Mina mogs all of those trannies
>>540137842drow ranger hero when
>>540137842Bane's female????>no puck
I'm starting to think buying Extra Regen first item every game is basically the best thing to do, assuming it's a normal lane that I'm not dominating.
it's just that shrimple
>>540138174paige is literally cm now that I think about.
>>540138194Extra Regen is an early sustain for virile, aggressive young menHealing Rite is for meek, low T fags
>>540138502How so? I don't find her nearly as fun, she reminds me more of a LoL hero like LuLu.
>>540138656>How so?Same energy, also god damn that cm. Never played league, so can't really talk about the heroes there.
>Unkillable Mo>Phantom strike Abrams>Lightning scroll Seven and Warden>Drifter whose entire gimmick is just to hold W on people especially those that are behind Yet all the actual fun shit got nerfed, grappling above people with gun Lash, snipe Vindicta, Bombbop. The devs should unironically be killed all the actual fun skillful shit gets nerfed into the ground so we can have ultbots and heroes that just hold W and stat check you, fucking why?
>>540138174Bane was born from the nightmare of a goddess so I assumed she is female.
>>540138174Puck has no gender.
>>540136354you will never be a woman
>>540139281good
>Almost lost a game because a duo of faggots kept trying to farm while we were pushing objectivesGod I hate being Alchemist, but I'm too bad to carry myself out of it.
>>540138194For me its extra health, I buy first and go for trade, win it easily because its the most efficient stats in the game. Then the enemy is playing from behind and I have prio
>>540139342Your microphone sir?
>>540138954I will never forgive them for nerfing Kelvin beam while all this shit is still in the game.Fuck this game.
>>540137842haha le forehead!!! WE DID IT REDDIT #KEEPYAMATOMODEL frfr hehI can’t wait for when they release yamato neon prime funkpop for le epic chungus!!
>>540139342if that's your issue with your rank it quite literally never gets bettert. oracle
>>540137842>>grotesque, unfinished, copy-pasting of prior art, alienthe last two female heroes were white, though.
>>540139401It'd be fine if Kelvin's beam was a hatecrime if it was single target
>>540139552Ms. Ha?
so what's the actual counter to having to lane against greytalon?you can't attack him because he just disengages, you can't trade with him because he has less damage falloff than you and can nuke you for a quarter of your HP on demand.
Post your mains and judge others based off them>Vyper>Wraith>Holliday >Victor
>>540139768You are gay, here are mine>Lash>Abrams>Doorman>Bebop
>>540139768>dynamo>mirage>mo and krill
>>540139001Sounds male to me.>>540139281Good, then I couldn't fuck women.
>>540140180based except mirage
game needs more hot females
>>540138561Healing Rite is annoying to use
>>540140979There is already more than DotA has right now after more then a decade. If anything we need more monsters or conventional whitemales.
>>540141157>only 2 good looking females compared to dota were at least 10 are good looking
>>540141157>we need more monsters or conventional whitemalesNo, we don't. You've got enough for you, bara bros.
>>540140979sorry i meant more hot monster females
>>540141541>moreivy isn't hot.
>>540141238>2paradox and ivy?
>>540140942I play a weird build, very tanky and I rush superior duration
>>540140854Yeah I was wrong. Bane is a he. Just checked dota2.com.
>>540141597weak willed
>2nd game>3/11/2 on AbramsI can’t tell if this just isn’t for me or if I’m having really bad luck against fed teams because both of these games have gone poorly. First had an ultra fed shiv with 3x the souls of the next person, and in this one the entire enemy team had more than our most fed carry.
pay attention to the builds of the worst performers on your team
>>540141685Bane was a nightmare about faceless void that's why he looked similar to voids old model
>>540141857You need to play passive in early lane until you get T2 on your charge. After that you play carefully for picks until you're fed enough to 1v6. My favorite thing is to pick a sidelane to steal farms from and rape people caught out alone
Just carry harder. :)
>>540142702wrong you should run past enemy creeps and fistfight under enemy tower
>>540142916
>>540142893Oh man those fart ranks really shit on those pooprankers
Melee Doorman is ass but it's so much fun
>>540142893dynamo ulted 5 of them into a seven ball + storm?
Shiv either feels like he's way too ahead or just utterly useless I really don't get it. Also he has some of the worst farming ability in the fucking game right now which just feels counter-intuitive considering his abilities do not do anything unless they can shit out damage. They seriously need to go back and rework him. He is not a character that's easy to balance.
>>540143294>t. maxes ult/dagger first
>>540142893did drifter rape everybody?
>>540143263wait nevermind i thought you were bragging about somehow winning the game with a shit score, somehow didn't notice the right side team won.
>>540143294Marvel Rivals managed to balance a character that has a Shiv ULT AOE, I'm sure Valve can balance Shiv
>>540142893>zero gun itemsYou always want at least a little investment in each category, even if you are going for a different build. You can get slow bullets or spirit resist shredder or escalating resilience if you really dont care about gun damage
>>540137842Sorry I had no taste. It's fixed now.
>>540141857Okay I’m getting the feeling there’s a quasi Smurf situation going on from not enough new players to make full newbie matches due to invite only so everyone gets stomped by actually experienced players and it isn’t fun.
>>540143294nah you just need to get good
>>540143494>You always want at least a little investment in each category, even if you are going for a different build.Why
>>540143362What the fuck are you even implying. Knife and dash are just damage dealers, rage makes you do more damage and lets you spam it. Blood letting just lets you clear more damage at max. >>540143440rivals is a very simplified game. Shiv has so much going on with his character yet he's in an extremely special place of having 0 CC of any kind. He literally does not do anything besides deal damage and take reduced damage. He has a rage meter, he has special effects on his abilities while in rage, he has a lot of shit going on. When he's good, he's an absolutely disgusting monster. When he's bad, he literally and I mean literally does nothing. Victor is the only other hero you could argue is in the same spot but ironically he actually does have some CC, his aura slows and pain batter slows and his character is much better designed for soaking up damage because he can heal, has a damage nuke from damage, and obviously he revives as his ult. If shiv is getting butt fucked the only thing he can do is use his dash and pray
>>540143841You want to fuck snapfire?
>>540143294can his opponents see his dash coming and avoid the second cast?yes? he's shit.no? 13-1.they should probably put debuff remover on his passive at the 5 point upgrade or something because he gets absolutely turbo fucked by toxic bullets.
this game needs more good looking female chars. every match has some horny retard playing mina, most of them bad, so i can’t even try learning her.next hero drop should have 4 sexy bitches, and yamato's new bikini model.
>>540137842these bitches are all ugly as fuck my man except the dragon
>>540143998It a selection of good designs.
i want them to fix pocket. maybe i don't want to go glocket, maybe I want to frogmaxx
Haze is sexier than Mina
>>540144297I heard the breast update is finally up next so we should be eatin good
WHERE IS THE FUCKING PATCH, YOSHI!?
>>540143841>checking off WR>checking off Venge>checking off TA>checking off BroodmotherLow T tastelet, never post again
>>540144339>except the dragonbased
>>540142015I think I built that first time in the inhouse and it felt terrible
>>540144432>pockets best build by far is spirit and gun is literal shitSelf exposing your pisslow rank
>>540144667aren't patches always on thursdays?
>>540144297>pic unrelated
>>540143970You get better stats per investment due to the dimishing returns, even the most spirit heavy builds will end with 1/3rd gun dmg so it adds up
>>540144879she's cute and has peach's lips, if you don't want them around your cock you're a faggot
>>540144297I love slanty eyes so much bros.
>>540145023Nah, uggo face and annoying voice, only fuckable with a face bag
>>540145450anon is insane, even if she isn't to his prefences in what world is Mina ugly lol. Post your waifu nao!
>>540145637bitch looks like a chinese caricature in the image you posted
Was this ever updated for new heroes?
>>540145840>chinese caricatureBwo she's just Asian
>>540138954>grappling above people with gun Lashskyrunner. they decided to just take the idea (gun hero) and wrap it into another whole hero I think. >bombbopdumb cheese piss off
>>540144983Interesting, I plotted the item type bonuses (https://deadlock.wiki/Item) with X axis as Hundreds of souls and Y axis being>% weapon damage increase>spirit power increase>% health increaseLooking at the purely raw values it seems investing hard into orange items gives the most efficient value, a 93% increase in weapon damage while spirit power caps out at 81 (~81% increase in spirit damage depending on scaling) while Health maxxing isn't the best, but also keep in mind that most green items also give bonus health which would skew this scaling.Seems around 9,600 souls is where investments start giving diminishing returns
>>540146669bonus health doesn't affects the health% gain from green items, they only affect base healththe calculation is base health * health% increase from brought green items + any bonus health that items/abilities (fuck you abrams) give
>>540146285>Esoteric racial slursDoorman>Hard RMina, Holliday>Not hard RDrifter, Billy, Calico, Vyper>Has pass, won't use itVictor>Never says itPaige, Sinclair
Do you think Mina had plastic surgery
>>540145378They should honestly just make rest of human woman characters asian.>Geist is now haughty aristocratic dragon lady>Paradox's facemask only covers mouth and nose, leaving her with seductive gaze>Vindicta is now long-haired yokai ghost who's pale white instead of blue>McGinnis is cute tinkering tomboy railway engineerPocket should also be a girl
Why is it that I can do well with Seven and Haze, but not wit Victor?
>>540147187>Why do I do well with characters that are strong at every stage of the game vs meme characters that are only good past minute 20
>>540147187Are you diving and face tanking walkers with your infuser? If you value your life as Victor you're playing him wrong.
>>540147276I dive literally everything and everyone if my ult is up.
>>540147187>why do I do well with S/A tier characters but not D tier characters?hmm
>>540145840have you never seen a chinaman or something?also>korean
>>540147480>>540147257Every single metric site puts Victor on par with Haze...
>>540145637Non arcana QoP and Phantom ASSassin is bretty gud. In Deadlock tho? Paradox and Geist
>file deleted in two of last three threadsyooooo stop ratting to the fucking tranitor
>>540147595He's a late game pubstomper, try to survive lane then go farm for 20 minutes then come back to 1v6
>>540147796If it was furry trash then thank you jannyIf it wasn't then fuck you janny
>mina is ugly according to /dlg/Are you guys faggots? Even faggots would call her hot.
>>540146956>Drifter>Not hard R
>>540148114Man all the drifter fanart is fucking ugly and full of gay vibes
>>540147120timeline with no anti-chinese act.
>>540148156He is spiritually a support character, he belongs with rescue beam and divine barrier, using his ultimate to save his teammates from ganks
>>540136203
Do you think Mina participates in the high society tantric ritual orgies?
>>540148029>animeshitYou aren't helping your cause>>540148342Based stats. Where is this from?
>>540147934huuuh no not the fuggin bloomers
>>540143374Yes, after getting fed fifteen kills in the laning stage.
>>540147120>mask only covers mouth and nosewrong
>>540148536Was gonna post it tooSuper weird that jannies delete shit like this but let loli characters do splits in micro bikinis
>playing Drifter >if you aren't up by at least double the second highest kills by minute 10 you're a waste of spaceWhy would anyone think this was a good idea?
>>540143245Plopping doors behind someone and heavy meleeing on lane is funBut gets me killed a lot
>>540148707still a strong side-laner and a maxed passive/ult still gives him big value
literal 5v6
>>540148029RAPE meat.>>540148536>Everything but the pussy and ass gonna heal from the damage im about to do
>>540148536why did jannies delete that but gacha shit literally floods this board?
Your haze for the 33 minute match, sir.
>>540148697bro it's probably one of the new discord troons they """""""""hired""""""""" with the latest batch and he probably thinks "deadlock sucks GabeN fat and ugly Valorant better game XD"jannies get the noose
>>540149010>didn't help to enable his support slutisn't 30k healing pretty good?
Well I won what was supposed to be a guaranteed loss, which makes me think I'm gonna get omega raped next game. Slipped through the cracks this time, but I know what's coming.
>>540149259retarded or bait
>>540148480statlocker.gg
>>540149010>that abrams build I kneel
>>540149029I need to see the ivy...
When are they removing the restrictions?I want to queue Haze/Mina/Paige only...
>>540149029Where is the bunny Ivy
>>540137842Only Marci and WindrangerAll others ugly freaks>UnfinishedWow you don't say turboniggerretard?
>>540149102literally probably because he's a shill for some game that he sees as being in competition with deadlock>Janitors ARE NOT Interpreters: Rules are to be enforced as written. Janitors enforce site policy only and personal motives should never influence deletion. They are objective, not subjective.hilarious
>>540149570maybe when valve comes back from vacation in 4 months.
>>540149836probably some marvel or overslop player, cringe.
How many of you actually buy cuckultist every game?
I started playing 3 days ago and I've lost 6 pounds>wake up>drink monster>do nothing all day >eat nothing>eat 300 cal before bed
>>540150493are you just gaming all day? that's based.
>>540150493Omad is based
>>540150386me. helps you keep up with the hyper farmers. without it, infernus/haze/seven just steamroll by the level discrepancy
>>540150227no literally I'm not kidding. I did a quick category of the catalogue, I counted one bikini and one g-string ass shot, both of which were more lewd than OP, multiple footfetish images, multiple lolicon images, a pussy shot, Chun-Li's legs and tits and the Marvel Rivals gen has a MEGA MILK imagebut we get nuked because oh no some pantsu. Literally fuck off.
I am the only one that knows how to properly play spirit ivy
>>540150569yes i haven't been this engaged in a game in literal years
>>540150493Rapid weight loss achieved with starvation is not a valid long term option, the moment you reach your desired weight you'll balloon up to be a whaleor just die as a malnourished skeleton idk
>>540150734funni kudzu bombeverywhere is kudzu
>>540137842io is a particle you sick fuck
>>540150704Marvel rivals is an arm of the ccp and commits cyber terrorism on dlg regularly
>>540150493fuck i could murder some canes right now
>>540150886There is plentiful studies on the benefits of moderate starvation
>>540150493>anon dies for nonstop grinding>UN announces video gaming is top tier cancer>player count flat-lines>deadlock canceled
One of the most brutal kill gaps I've seen
>every new player guide or tips guide I watch recommends pretty balanced gun/health/spirit split, leaning a bit towards one>every ivy guide I watch recommends spirit or gun primary, then a large dose of the other, and some greens>every build is like 99% gun or spiritCan people link their preferred Ivy builds?
>>540151190losing 6 pounds in 3 days is not moderate starvation
Think today rest day from gym and just get back to it tomorrowInhouses in one hour +/-
>>540151007when will the gweilos learn
>>540151463Maybe hes 400lbs
>>540151426https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGXcM43rr0sOVUwkw2KUUnaMo9xY01-RFiSGli05Slc/edit?gid=0#gid=0People are gonna mald cause they hate streamers but Deathy has great builds for every hero, it's just mainly gonna be metafaggotry idk if that's your thing.
>>540151675okay but 300 calories daily is literally nothinghe'll have every kind of vitamin deficiency known to man unless he chugs pills like some madman
>>540149029Cute Ivy
>>540151463I can easily lose 6 pounds in three days6 pounds is just normal weight fluctuation, I might be six pounds lighter or heavier than yesterday just due to what I eat or if I've been exercising.
Im 250lbsNot eating carbs will result in 3.5lbs weight loss overnight
>>540151990yeah maybe if you sweat out liters of water during a high intensity workout
>>540152181it's all water and you know it
>>540152283or if I eat light and pee a lotI think you're overreacting a bit to "six pounds in three days"
ok enough for now talk about slork
6 pounds in 3 days isnt that bad if you're an obeast
>>540152337Yeah, thats rhe point
>>540152421bro nearly 3 kilograms is a fucking shitton in 3 daysare you mentalyou're either fat as fuck or losing water to the point of bodybuilder before competition levels of dehydrationthat shit ain't healthy
Bros, I miss the old map so much. This iteration feels so much smaller and more boring
>have lost 8 games in a row>know my yoshi mandated win streak will have to kick in eventually
Why doesn’t mystic burst work on Mirage’s mark ability? It works on Mina’s love bite and that does more baseline damage to begin with.
>>540139708>Heroes with abilities that are silenced by Slowing Hex:>Grey Talon - Rain of Arrows
>>540152569He's going to smoke mid then go cat
>>540152915Why does her wear that?
>>540151343wtf is that mod?
>>540152858Last I checked it did work?
>>540152569Release him, give Slork to us
>>540152858are you crossing the threshold?
I want Calico to call me honey
>>540153834vyper*
>>540151232if anything that would make me like gaming more>>540151135i've only had it once it was great i love the toast
>Play Mo & Krill>Pop scourge>Grab someone and they dieHeh, too easy.
>get stomped by duo>look up players>oracle player queued with low ritualistgreat matchmaking system guys can't see this backfiring ever
>>540154623Name one game with good matchmaking
So, what's the monetization going to look like for deadlock?Will it be a free-to-play with retarded cosmetics that will turn it into league 2 and cod? If I start fighting flashy cyberpunks or irl celebrities in old time new york I'm gonna lose it.Or will it be a PTP and nothing else?imo it should be free but the only cosmetics should be guns and stickers, like in counterstrike.Or animations.Or, if they do have a brain, they'll do *some* cosmetics, but keep them grounded and simply as different time appropriate fashion without any stupid gimmicks.
>>540154623gg ez dog
>>540154850>Will it be a free-to-play with retarded cosmeticsYes.
I miss 4 lanes because 1v1s and smaller skirmishes actually happened I'm so tired of deathballs. If you don't kill someone in 5 seconds you basically have to expect 3-4 people to show up.
>>540154850hats
>>540155240Me when 5 minutes into my comfy mid lane poking match 4 people rotate in and make it the thunderdome for the next 5 and I get no farm.
i'm never getting out of ritualist
>>540154847When zoomers complain about matchmaking what they really mean is>Why don't the stars align and I get 12 people with the exact same level of skill and exact same amount of energy and exact same mental state in every single gameGeneral victim mentality that the world is out to get them
>>540155562look, if you're my lane mate and your M1 is unbinded and you've never heard of regen or healing rite I am probably gonna blame you if we lose the lane and they roam and destroy the team ya know
>>540154537scourge is actually a disgusting item and its insane it exists
>use yamato skill>press mouse1 at the end or during the end of the skill to shoot instantly after>game doesnt register input and i run after some guy doing nothingwhy is this still a thing
>>540155496I can't get out of Arcanist with a 56% winrate across ~300 gamesI've given up on caring about it and am currently working on getting my souls per minute up
>>540155743my question is why they bother having it be castable on other players when 99% of casts are done with mousewheel clicks
>>540155240I hate it so much. The added verticality is nice but everything feels so cramped now. God forbid you’re visible for a second against a competent team or you’ll get dicks down your throat
why does old man with bow have 4 stamina instead of 2 ? he spams logs of spirit damage at you from long range with no risk to himself, if you run at him he jumps up, if you ground him or wait out his jump, he still has 4 dashes to get him around the corner into the walker/enemy teamwtf
>>540156519HE SNEEDS IT
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEI CANNOT CARRY ON HOLLIDAYHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
>>540156717The only fun character that can carry is Lash.
>>540154623Does anyone know how this matchmaking works? My friend finally agreed to play with me we've done a few bot matches(side note the bots are fucking insane they perfect parry and don't miss skillshots) and I wanna duo with her in normals but I'm worried the MMR will be too high and she'll have 0 fun getting ass blasted every game. Does it average our ranks or does it lean towards the higher player?
>>540156519talon players with high ping are the bane of my existence, every fucking shot curves around corners and you have to play like your model lags 1s behind were you actually areimo hes op this patch since spirit gives you global presence and the arrows absolutely chunk everyone from a safe distance
>>540148114he's a murderer, not a monster
>>540156843if you can't handle losing you shouldn't be playing multiplayer games.
If Grey Talon looks straight up he should get a broken back debuff that permanently removes 1 stamina
Gun or spirit Vindicta?
>>540156843just smurf bro
>>540154847literally anything else I've never seen a game that had matchmaking as bad as deadlock and I'm not being hyperbolic.
How many times do I need to win to get rank up
Abrams book let's him do a lil hop and let's him steal a lil hp. Compared to the powers everyone else has it's silly that he's so worried about it. It's not that powerful of an artifact bro...
>>540155562I was thinking more like why is there an eternus player in my emissary lobby but yeah I guess its those dang zoomers whining ugh victim mentality am I right pick yourselves up by the bootstraps
>>540157008chunk is an understatement. them shits do 600+ damage not counting his items procs. with items procs (spirit burn, tankbuster, etc) they do 900+
>>540158109i've won 5 in a row before without any movement.
>>540157008i don't know why players with high ping are getting rewarded for having 3rd world internetwhy the fuck am i the one eating shit
>>540158123That book is the same as the source of all of Geists' powers, maybe even stronger than Oathkeeper himself
>>540156717Holliday is not a carry specially after nerfs, she's a side utility character.You CANNOT carry with those characters in this game because one single retard is enough to destroy the game, let alone post nerfs.
>>540157347gun below ascendant spirit above ascendant
>>540157008they should really just make an exception for this faggot and give his 1 range falloff damage already.don't see how it's ok for him to do 400 damage to you from his tower to yours.
>>540158123he's too much of a meathead imbecile to figure out how to make the most of it
>>540158891If doortard can cart me for 5 kilometers after locking me in gay baby jail then Talon can chunk you from 5 miles away
>>540157964That's unethical I'd rather just grief retards at my own rank than bully newfags
>>540159047well, i guess your little girlfriend will have to enjoy going 0/10/3
>>540156843You will need to change your options every time you boot the game or he won't be put in the same lane as you. When it boots you in lane together, let's say you're an Oracle player, you'll be against two archons so your buddy is gonna get his ass raped hard
starting to have dota levels of no fun with every other game just being against pudstompers anonymous maybe ill just check out until the next big patch
Turn Trapper into wallcrawler hero that shits all over parkour
how come gun carries on the enemy team melt health bars like butter in the sun but my teams gun carries always tickle people with a feather
>retarded lane of frozone and abrams feeds drifter lash 15 kills in 15 minutes>game is completely lost>backdoor as ivy>get both shrines, destroy patron>they send two to stop me, kill them both>it's a 5v3 in our base (one was on the way to kill me but wouldn't have made it)>they die>we lose while I'm hitting weakened>26k obj damage while no one on my team has above 1k>1/21 0/15 2/16 6/15 2/14 4/10 (me)>only ever die to drifter because its a disgusting pedo character especially when he's fedHow many games till I get out of seeker man.... i cant' stand this
https://youtu.be/DhetRNHLI7E?si=E02y4mFqEOZU5dqfHow come we don't hear like any of these in game? Are they meant for a specific ability that hasn't come out yet?
>>540159227Unfortunate I guess she'll have to thug it out.>>540159246Ok so the setting disables itself I thought I was losing it because I definitely turned it on, thanks for the info.
>>540159514deserved. see you in hell, ivy player
>>540159735>Ok so the setting disables itself I thought I was losing it because I definitely turned it on, thanks for the info.Yes it's incredibly fucking annoying having to toggle it each time, and the occasional time you forget to change it and you just lose a game because of the unbalanced dogshit lanes you now have as a result if you want to switch back to your duo
>>540159753Since when is ivy considered cringe?I haven't played since before calico was a thing.Ivy was considered based back then.Or is that just a personal skill issue of yours?
>>540159621maybe it's a slow roll out.i've noticed paige has a voice line when she gets hit for a lot of damage.
>>540159621They're not bringing voice actors into the studio every week to record new lines, they tell them to do this and that and gather all the possible material for the ideas they have at the moment and potential future.You can hear portions of these as the death scream for a couple characters.>>540159883There's also this, characters get more and more voicelines over time, there's bound to be a huge amount of unused lines that are not in the game yet.
>>540158347>i don't know why players with high ping are getting rewarded for having 3rd world internetDon't worry we're not being rewarded for it, it's fucking suffering.>t. constantly experiences ping spikes and stutters with seemingly no reason whyI just want to play a normal game for once...
>>540159514>ivy player calling other heroes pedobroyou play ivystay the FUCK AWAY from children
>>540159621Probably a backlog of just "scream into this mic, we might use it later"Or for an item active (My theory is that it kills you but you detonate in a big explosion, and the voiceline is a warning/cue)I doubt any one hero would warrant enough of an importance to record voice lines for every other hero in case they happen to get hit by the ability.
>>540160158>I doubt any one hero would warrant enough of an importance to record voice lines for every other hero in case they happen to get hit by the ability.Are you being retarded on purpose?
>>540160158>I doubt any one hero would warrant enough of an importance to record voice lines for every other hero in case they happen to get hit by the ability.you know there's unique voice lines just for getting grabbed by bebop?
>>540158757I can carry with M*na
>>540160138ivy is a fucking gargoyle, not even r34 could make that attractiveyou strayed far far from reddit matespacing, pedoblaming on 4chan... at least *try* to hide iti wouldn't be surprised if you were a samefag too
>>540159865i just hate that shitty gargoyle
>>540160371you talk like a pedo, reason like a pedo, play ivy like a pedo
>>540137842phoenix is a guy
>>540160561Phoenix lay egg
>>540160240>>540160272Yes, but not every character has those.And what are you going to do with a scream?Responding to something that happened with a funny line or something is one thing. There's no reason to record an entire second cast of screams to respond to being hit (by anything) instead of normal ones unless they have a purpose that isn't just being a voice, but something more, like a warning.
>doorman ults me at 1 hp and walks away>counterspellheh.....nothin personnel
>>540160330Mina is currently broken as fuck and IS a carry, it's nowhere near the same thing.Holliday ult literally stops your damage sources and relies on the team/sometimes structures to do the damage for you.
3rd match, first win. Didn't do crazy well but I enjoy area denial with S1 and entering team fights with ult. Really wish there was a mid game spirit item for applying a DoT with the S1.
>>540160386So it is just a skill issueGuess ive got one for drifterpig disgusting freakazoid hero540160427go back
>>540160774Can you fuckers make up your mind?Everyone told me Mina was NOT a carry last night?!
>>540160642
>>540160774>Mina is currently broken as fuckshe is incredibly mid but requires one 1600 soul item to completely shut down so the worst players get stomped by her
>>540160798>ivy player talking about anyonepipe down, retard.
>>540160798are you gonna shit your pants when ivy gets nerfed next patch
>>540160841Why do you care? Share your own opinion, retard
Making the lowest rank brown is racist and we should all try to get this game cancelled.
>>540161068This is my 8th ever game how the FUCK am I supposed to know ANYTHING!?
>>540160774can't wrap my head around the mina is broken meme, she is a strong laner but her midgame is terrible and she needs to build a ton of green to prevent being vaporized late game
Early game love bite damage is straight terrorism when you're squishy
>>540161061Wait what Ivy might get nerfed? I just started and she's probably my favourite of who I've played.
>>540160960what item? slow?
>>540160841Link the posts.She's not a main carry like say Wraith or Infernus, but she's definetely a carry.In Dota terms, imagine characters like wraith and infernus as your position 1 and characters like Mina and Yamato as your mid laners.>>540160960Enjoy the incoming nerfs.
>>540160330>just a shitstompNot a carry. The later the game goes the harder it's for her to carry
>>540161271Anyone might get nerfed dude
>>540160841She's not a carry in the traditional sense.She can't just 1v5 a fight like lashBut her kit makes her an absolute pain to deal with.You can't ignore her because she does disgusting damage, both at insane long ranges thanks to bites, but also at close range with rake.But you can't focus or chase her either because her 2 makes her nigh invincible and capable of escaping any encounter, especially with echo shard.Her ult can also completely shut down entire areas or kill whole teams outright.This means she can do insane damage without any repercussions and carry fights with it alone while also staying safe, never dying and constantly contributing with damage, items and area denial.
>>540160841Mina is currently one of the best heros in the game period. Anyone who says otherwise or points to win rates is a pisslow shitter. Her WR ks bogged down by her near 100% pick rate. >>540160774You can do damage in Holliday ult but I'm legitimately the only person I've ever seen do it. I guess they don't play test with her but as my main I fuck around with her alot. Here's what you want to do. Rope > stand facing a wall that doesn't have a vertical platform above it (within 3-5 meters or so basically one jump + mantle up) place your bounce pad in front of you >barrel into the bounce pad>jump off the pad and double crouch into the ground to extend and do slam damage > barrel one more time. If they're still alive aim for headshots or one more barrel.
>>54016127154% winrate right under seven in archon-eternus
>>540161136Most "people" in this thread dont even play the game, so youre ahead already. In my opinion the only sketchy thing about her is damage against objectives
>>540161285I do not even play her, I just have never had a problem with her and don't understand how anyone does>>540161282Yes, slowing hex. She has no health and just explodes once she doesn't have her escape.
>enemy team has le tanky meme dps lineup>Lose
>12/2/15 average in most of theseI don't even care, I'm having so much fun, playing solo queue and expecting to win all the time is silly
>>540161478siphon bullets + toxic bullets/healbane. spirit burst meta, unless your team is just overly passive and didn't push advantage early enough
>>540161414>Her WR ks bogged down by her near 100% pick rate.Even the best of the best Mina players can barely pull a 55% winrate on her, and complain how she isn't good enough to carry in solo queue with due to her team reliance
>>540160962waaaah waaah i can't buy metal skin or return fire because... um.. because
i buy toxic bullets every game because i like putting bleeds on everyone.
>want talon redesign to come out because his voicelines are great and I want more cute daughterfu fanart with vindicta>dread talon redesign because people will start playing grey talon more often
>>540161478can't relate. spamming bolts from 40 miles back with mystic reverb + spirit burn is sick shit
>>540161664Because I main paige and pocket meaning all 4 of my active slots are full
>>540161664two shit active items. and what makes ivy strong right now is her farming/counter farming and rotation ability since they removed the teleporters. >>540161467>never had a problem with herplease get to a higher elo before saying dumb shit like this. her ult alone automatically taking all objectives is strong enough
>>540161723Welcome back Venomancer
>>540161204because she's genuinely broken, being able to one shot walkers through backdoor and delete midboss in 2 seconds is game warping and they removed everything that allowed you to do that in the past for that same reason, add the ability to pretty much auto win lane because love bites is insanely overturned, a literal teleport with basically 2 charges and a ult that gives you 3 tier 4 spirit items worth of value very early on means you have a perfect storm of faggotry.She's gonna have a low winrate and lots of retards displaying that because she's the most picked character in the game by far.Vindicta went through the exact same arc, tons of waifufags being useless with her yet she was getting nerfed every week because in good hands it was almost impossible to deal with her.
I only play under-powered already-nerfed characters like Haze, Seven, Victor and Drifter.I never have to worry about nerfs!
>>540161414>Anyone who says otherwise or points to win rates is a pisslow shitterShe doesn't have above 50% winrate. How is she op? Because her early and mid game are strong? Fucking retard youre fat.
>>540161478tank characters in shooters are always kind of dumb imoboring meatbags with 300% hp who still get to deal damage and exert kill pressure
>>540161664i never said i can't deal with jter, i said i just don't like her. same deal with kelvin, you fags are irritating.
>>540161609I had toxic + decayDoesnt matter, especially qhen they also have Billy that doesn't care about healing reductionsI did find a pretty cool setup for midgame brools though
>>540161662>can't carry solo queue>take an objective for free every 45 secondsIf you lose while playing optimally you wouldn't have been able to carry the team on any hero.
>>540161935>seven and drifter>never worry about nerfshuh?
>>540162013decay is weak right now, don't bother unless you're shiv. crippling headshot is also decent and got buffed recently
BEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
>>540162042They've both been nerfed into the ground. Seven has been repeatedly.The nerfs are over.Only fun is allowed now.
>>540161975>negative winrate means badObjectively false. I get you're to to competitive games, but historically tons of heros/champions have been nerfed for being too strong despite having a sub 45% winrate. First examples that come to mind are Akali, and Enchantresss/ Earth Spirit.
>>540162015Yes, she can't carry solo queue with "taking an objective for free every 45 seconds" mainly because any competent team cuts you off, kills you and takes midboss off the pick because the "carry" is dead.Then you lose.
>>540162141>Seven has been repeatedly.kek it's been like this for a year, it will keep happeninghave fun
>>540160427nta but you're a redditor, which is like being a pedo but even worse
>>540160138I'll check but I don't think kids are latina gargoyles.
>>540162216Seven hasn't been nerfed in months, anon.He's stable.All is well.
>tell teammate seven to help out teammate that is 30 feet away from him>he continues to farm the jungle creeps>after our teammate dies>goes where he died>he diesThese people aren't human I refuse to believe these people are sentient beings. But if they are that's what makes it scary to think that people like this walk amongst us.
>havnt seen a spirit miku in 2 months>decide to try out yamato>3 spirit miku/mo lanes in a rowthanks yoshi, appreciate it
New player question, do you ever replace battle vest/enchanters emblem? If so what with? They seem really good with no direct 1:1 replacement.
>>540162349- Seven: Move speed reduced from 6.9 to 6.8- Seven: Incoming crit resistance reduced from -35% to -25%- Seven: Power Surge T3 spirit power scaling reduced from 0.34 to 0.3- Seven: Storm Cloud DPS spirit scaling reduced from 0.65 to 0.6- Seven: Storm Cloud initial radius reduced from 12m to 10mLiterally 2 weeks ago.
>>540161763>get ignored in teamfight>proceed to explode the enemy team with bolts>steal a teamfight ult and completely fuck the enemy
>>540162216goodseven is still brokensame with drifter
what is seven was instead named steven
>10 losses in a row>lost all rank progressAt least I can't lose again, right?
>>540162427sell for slots if needed
I hope they never change the voice lines of heroes calling Victor Frank
>>540162092I bought it on doorman
>>540162479we'd put "steven" players on death row anyway
>>540162402there's no miku in this game
>>540162581Sorry bro Gaben paid me to personally assassinate your MMR. Nothing personal you were just winning too much.
Hoodwink, WHEN!?
>>540162770we have ivy already
>>540162437dreading the day sinclair gets nerfed into being unplayable dogshit
>>540162327take a shower freak>>540162210>she can't carry solo q with taking an objective freelook, I don't wanna be too rude here, but being able to one-shot nearly every objective game is objectively strong, don't be a retard. >>540162636nah decay is still weak. i'd genuinely rather get healbane since the bell AOE would apply it to more than one target and potentially give you at least a big heal in a teamfight
>>540162807Ivy isn't fluffy...
>Get into """"Archon lobby">Was really just a bunch of shitlows with 4 Eternus players>They lane swapped just to rape the shitty playersYeah no there's no way the current system could be improved it's not Valve's fault
>>540162479
The streets of Osaka's Wakka way while you still can
>>540162852>is objectively strongYes, but requires farm, investment and is not enough to win alone. Especially when it's not "free" against any competent team, like I just saidYeah Wraith can also easily rat walkers but so what? She's dogshit tier right now, because would you look at that, it's not enough.
>>540163079why does kelvin say this? what is it supposed to be??
>>540163207the streets are for suckers
>>540163080this game is not balanced around "duuuuuuh can they carry? no? den we never nerf dem :)"as a matter of fact, I'd rather see a slowing hex buff rather than a straight mina nerf (instant case rather than some travel time, 24CD from 30s)
>winning>teammate randomly leaves>game drags out for an extra 30 minutes>lose
>>540163278I never said that it was. I just said that even the best players find her payoff lacking without a competent team to surround her. And this will only get worse once her ult gets the 50% objective nerf
>>540162770fuck off animal fucker
>>540163080>Mina has a low winrate she's bad>Wraith has a high winrate she's also badWhich is it nigger
We need a streets of Osakas skin for kelvin that makes him look like an Asian man
deadlock best highlights and funny moments
>>540163650yamato would be offended
>>540161664Capacitor is currently the most important damage item for gun Ivy. Do you know what that item actually does or are you retarded?
>>540163543Wraith with farm deletes everything
>>540163475yea, she'll still just be one of the best laners in the game and one of the best skirmishers in the game. so weak very unplayable icefrog plz buff
>Future druid charactergee i wonder what they'll wish for the patrons>UHH KILL INDUSTRIALISTS>NO MY BACKGROUND TOTALLY ISN'T JUST ABOUT BEING THE LORAX
>>540163790Never said anything like that either. Keep seething though.You should go through all those games you seethed about Mina in lane and see how useful she was later on. You'd be surprised.
>>540163650Slanted eyes, yellow skin, black hair, a torii gate on his back
>>540161846I'm oracle/phantom, when does she get OP? it looks like her winrate stays consistent through even the highest ranks. even the best mina's have trouble maintaining a 50+ WR. I think she is a very powerful hero with an extremely high skill ceiling but she does not feel like the strongest hero in the game
>>540163920https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMw2it8dQY
>>540163883I'm not seething about her, but I am making fun of you for claiming she's weak. guess what? most of the cast sucks without a team, that's not a special weakness in deadlock
>>540163815>it's an industrialist druid summoning trash elementals
>>540163815>>UHH KILL INDUSTRIALISTS>>NO MY BACKGROUND TOTALLY ISN'T JUST ABOUT BEING THE LORAXYeah his character is uncle Ted instead
>>540164013>but I am making fun of you for claiming she's weakI never claimed that.
Deploy the inhouse
your wife... is my wife......
>>540163815they should make him a hippie
>next patch, ivy and mina nerfsTOTAL WAIFUFAG DEATH
Minecraft trading map with parkour
Ehehehe you see dat shitTook em outWe make a good team
>>540164307May I see them?
>>540164408hmmm no
>>540164408
>Have a good time, winning a few games in a row>Suddenly Mo and Krill in the enemy team every game>Win streak becomes a lose streak
>>540164602Why are wypipo like this?
you know mina is OP when the waifu shitters flip their shit when you say she's strong
>>540164393>tfw infernus doesn't go "d'y'all muuhhfuggahs peep dat sheeeeeeit"
>>540164746wraith should talk ghetto and twerk after every kill
>>540164742one reduced love bites shot for proc was all it took to go from "waifushitters are so braindead for playing this dogshit hero" to this huh
>>540164742You don't call my wife op anon
the anti mina posters know her ult is gonna get nerfed....minaooners don't take the bait...hold the line!
>>540164835Make her fat and make her brap while twerking
>>540164835if infernus ults calico chris rock should appear and make a joke about how she looks bald
>>540164993I wish it did, crying about it is getting tiring already (and teammates cry when I don't max ult first)
haha black people
>>540164835
just had a guy playing the werewolf blood guy tell me doorman is a top 3 easiest herois he right doe
THE LASHis having a wonderful daysparkle on
When infernus gets hooked he should say"wuh, I dindu nuffin!"
>>540165186yes
>>540163815They could make him a more moderate character where his wish is the permanent preservation of nature reserves instead of being fully tedpilled
>>540165186outside of teleport memes he's not that hard to use. viscous is a lot harder.
>>540165193Why did they make him so gay?
there really needs to be an option to focus window when the game unpauses
Kelvin is gay about Seven
i felt so useless playing viscoushow do i unlock the goop tech
why does shiv look like a chimpanzee?
How do you call out missing enemies?
>>540165186>throw bell>shoot bell (has massively increased shooting target just to benefit the retards)>don't do retarded ultswow VERY hard character
>>540165193Of course he does, and I'm glad he is.
>>540165398Hold T
>>540165398click on them
>>540165398Don't bother. Your teammates will call them out for you once the missing hero appears in their lane and kills them. Without fail your teammate will do the missing pings, multiple times in fact
I feel like I saw some creative portal uses when doorman came out and now all I see is them just using doors as a pseudo wraith teleport when they get caught while split pushing.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPlease Gaben, Please Yoshi, Please someone give me competent teammates PLEEEEAAAASEEEEE
are you enjoying your cuckcage games, deadchuddies? lmao this "game" is trash
>>540164307they will also nerf vindicta
>win lane>Lose gameEverytime
>gun doormanyou deserve it
>>540165751>combined total of 400 objective damageno, you didn't win your lane
Inhouses starting in NOW:0Z638>>540165831Actually wasnt gun, went cultist sacrifice toxic bullets, that was probably mistake because game ended 3 minutes later
>>540165545i do this.
What hero sustains themselves purely off their own semen?
>>540166085Mo and Krill jizz all over the ground and heal
i take back all the shit i talked about on fortitude.tried it out again in a heavy poke damage lane and fucking THRIVED.
Radiant regen kinda fucks in those prolonged brool fights ngl
>Every Bebop is veil walker first item cheesing nowIs there a more reddit hero in the game
>>540165616>chuddies even though half of the cast is canonically queer
>>540166278radiant regen is only good on certain heroes
>>540163815What if his wish is to preserve Central Park forever? City Druids are a neat flavor of Druid.
>Have one account I used to learn new heroes >Have another that's my main >My main gets the most assrapey sweaty games ever but if I switch to my alt it's chill despite it being similar ranksWhat the fuck
>>540165751>doorman wins laneI am SHOCKED
game is pure soulless brawling from the minute 3 until it ends, just pick stuns and you'll win every game, why are you "people" so bad and dumb? I bet u're all shootermonkeys instead of being dotachads
>no matter how bad a bebop does or how shit they are at the game they can win a game by themselves by getting one hook from their random barrage of 8 cd hookshooks are the worst design choice in any moba jesus fuck
>>540166572*Ding*
Your job as a doorman is to make the early game as infuriating as fucking possible by harassing people for 6 minutes straight on their shop you soulless cunts burn in hell.
>>540166316Whenever I lane against bopeep I just rush reactive barrier and take the free lane
>>540166591dota has been soulless brawling since like 2014 what the fuck are you talking about
>>540166667still more honest than 80% of the cast though
>>540166729shut up you 2k pinoy monkey
>>540166369You would think so, but last game i had a very prolonged mid (early game) fight, and just the regeneration part healed me for 600, and on top of that all the burst healing chunks
you guy see that new soul exploit hitting the top of the bug reports? that's some good shit.
>>540166729Dota died Specifically after 6.81b memepush meta got developed
>>540166786Explains the fucking insane amount of souls coming out of nowhere that I've been noticing, what the fuck.
>>540166786Damn that's Uber broken im expecting an emergency hot fix soon
>>540166945the peepening
>>540166591Dota is literally brool the game, tardo
I need to rape Paige.
Why does Lash sound like that when he says >i see kelvin
>>540167269Don't worry i already done that
>>540166591...You mean the game that's been on a steep decline for a long time now because it went full brain off brool mode?
>kill someone>he types "fucking tree" in all chat after>think this is some kind of fucked up new insult>turns out he just got caught on a tree while trying to escapei hate the modern internet for making me think this.
>>540167281He hates gingers almost as much as he hates their anagram
wtf is this abuse where people get infinite money?
>another infinite soul glitch at least one guy is using every game
>>540167407much better than brain off rice farmer mode thobeit
>>540167407>steep decline for a long time nowThere has been no noticeable decline in the average Dota players in the last 7 years or so
>>540167472it's called sitting in a lane catching waves by yourself
>>540166729>>540167268>>540167407you're just outing yourselves, shitters
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All the more reasons to come inhousesNo money glitching0z638Get on
would adding a chat to private lobbies make these inhouses more or less gay you think
>>540167578no, i had an opponent who sat in the shop and bought and sold items the first five minutes until he bought 6k items back to back
people complain about brooling here because they can't aim and therefore can't win fightsthe only way they win their games is by avoiding all conflict while playing pve
>>540167739>he didn't use the hidden teleporter to the deleted fourth lane
>540167749>she wants yet another brainless brawlshootermarvel rivals is that way >>>>>>>>
>>540167653going afk if it fills and i'm not back in time move me
>>540167915Are we supposed to know who you are you stupid faggot
People who did money exploit should immediately get clapped with 6 months vacationBut valve wont do it because they are nswords
pool's closed while the exploit is unpatched, anons. close down the games. i'm coming for you.
evens amber odds saphire
>>540168002When shit like this happens in Dota 2 and people abuse it on ranked games sometimes they get punished but this shit is in alpha or whatever so I don't think they really care
Sigh I guess I will jerk off instead
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>>540167876>taking good fights and having good aim is brainless>standing around shooting creeps for 20 minutes is high skill chess mastermind gameplaylol
yoshi slip in a few ivy nerfs with the hotfix doo eet
guess the game is unplayable for now while the infinite money bug is back.
i mean isn't brooling fine as long as you're a hero that doesn't need a lot of souls and there's someone that knows how to slurp up the souls you're passing on
>>540168178is this EU?
>>540168296they're just looking for an excuse as to why they keep losing their games, and the only one they can come up with is brooling
>>540168258even more reason to play inhouse>>540168393NA use as always0Z6380Z638
>>540168258where do you niggas even see this? the discord?
>>540168517there's a thread on leddit showing some chinks exploiting it.you just buy close quarters and sell it repeatedly until the game just lets you buy higher tier items for no reason?
2 more, pubs are unplayable anyway
paige would totally be my gf irl
>>5401657515 deaths is extremely bad for doorman, even on games where i lose i usually die 0 times or once
>>540168296There's a big difference between brooling for a goal at ideal times and mindless 24/7 brooling.You HAVE to fight at key points to defend or push or get an urn or get their jungle.You don't HAVE to fight in front of the enemy walker 13 minutes into the game when they have Lash Dynamo and there's two waves pushing into your side with almost the entire jungle up on both sides.
This was pretty shit, in line with my recent losing streak. Any tips for playing as McGinnis?
Bro
>>540168296if you have a guy like victor or seven on your team you really strongly benefit from having someone that can ball on a budget (like dynamo) on your team so victor can hit his>>>>>>>30k lmaopowerspike sooner
>>540167982im back, but if there's a guy who doesn't ready up when everyone else is, then yes you would know who it was.
>>540168650There seems to be some sort of lag when buying and selling items and you can push your soul balance into the negatives, once you die the negative balance becomes positive and you have free souls
>>540168845buy tesla bulletsbuy fleetfootbuy heroic auraupgrade tesla bullets to capacitorbecome death
>>540168860of course it's fuckign subhuman zigger filth
Seven dialogue be like
>>540168987It's literally a chinaman
0Z6380Z6380Z6380Z638join the inhouse you faggots you literally can't play the normal game right now
>>540168754>gets cucked by a literal corpse
>>540169114how do we trust someone not to abuse ze bug
>>540169192they will be publicly executed
Update, i will remake i houseProbably hotfix
updatebug fixed
>>540169010When you walk out of Seven's ult, but he has Lightning Scroll.
Make a new lobby and post the code lads
>>540167749I love to brool but I also know when to creep farm. Generally if I get a smart duo, we brool and then continue to bully the enemy lane by denying forcing them to play far back we win.
zr754zr754zr754Sex wirh deadlock inhouseDO NOT JOIN IF YOU ARENT UP TO DATE NSWORD
>>540168978Something like this?
>>540169624why are you so weird man
>>540169779Get the fuck out normie
i am not your n-sword
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>>540169624Why are they red and shit
>>540169705tesla bullets should literally be your 2nd or 3rd itemmonster rounds > extended mag > teslano joke.
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>>540169946I don't think McGinnis needs Monster Bullets. She is already a beast at killing NPCs.
>>540168296Brooling for the sake of brooling is pointless and it's the same situation in any MOBA. It is entirely possible for you to win a game without ever actually killing anyone, but you cannot win a game without taking objectives.If you brool, get a kill but are too low to actually take anything, you've achieved nothing except losing net worth you could have gotten from troopers and jungle camps. Brooling at the right time to contest objectives, or to catch a high priority target out of position to neuter their ability to contest a push is good. Sitting outside of the enemy walker throwing shit at each other achieves nothing.In fact, the vast majority of the time it's easier to win the game if the enemy is going as a stack of 4 or 5 to lanes because of how easy it is to pressure empty lanes and 2v1 the poor fucker that's left hoovering up the souls.People have it the wrong way round and see brooling as the default unless you have a good reason not to. It should be that you only brool if you have a very compelling reason to.
Starting to feel like gun items in Paradox builds are a bit of a meme. Using the Saiah one and I used to go opening rounds + hollow point but decided to cut those entirely and go cooldown/tankbuster route into spirit burn and it didn't seem like it made a significant impact on carbine damage. Even with gun items paradox does low gun damage but you don't need to stack them to make carbine shit damage out.
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>>540170380>Even with gun items paradox does low gun damageomega shitter detected
>>540169624kys yurifag
>>540170380The bulk of your damage should be gun damage, not carbine damage
>>540170489>>540170694Nope. You can not sit there and try to say her gun damage is comparable to any carry even if you go full gun.
>>540170747Because she isn't a gun carry? Dumbass? She gets to have incredible gun damage while still having one of the best kits in the game.
>>540170380Tankbuster is shit on a character with only 1 way to trigger it and opening rounds doesn't even work on carbine
>>540168296Also another big factor is power spikes.Some characters spike extremely hard after x item or y level up, going to a fight would've resulted in a net loss of souls that they could've obtained by just farming or better yet, pushing and farming, and that delays the power spike that would allow them to start doing their job.Instead they force a coinflip into a lose/lose situation where they might die by following their team or win the fight but not get anything out of it beyond maybe advancing a lead by 1k souls best case scenario spread throughout the entire team, which would've been gained all to you through farming and get you closer to that spike.All these are basic moba things but this game has a lot of retards for some reason.
I swear this game has in-built time dilationif I empty parry the cooldown lasts like 10 secsif they empty parry its like 2 secondsno, none has rebuttal and if I buy it, they just kill me quicker to compensate
NuPATCH
>>540170824>49 dpsholy shit i'm quivering
>oh this mina is 10k souls below me? should be easy kill>mina presses R>2k dmg in 3 seconds, zero counterplay because she's out in the openAre you just supposed to ignore this absolute travesty of a noskill character?You can't outdamage her because her R is the single strongest ability in the gameYou can't chase her becasue her 2 is so stupid, literally just mogs dynamo but stronger and it made him cryYou can't do anything even when you're two levels and items above her because>"um teehee let me press my instakill blender? what's that? you're not dead because i'm a noskill moron faggot and whiffed all of it, oh well, see ya in 5 minutes after i use my 2 to escape to a rooftop in a millisecond, then use echo shard if you decide to follow, teehee"TOTAL MINA DEATH
>>540170462>filled alreadyend me
>>540170824>duhh she not a carry but she still do big gun damage duhhhhhhThen she doesn't do big gun damage. Her gun damage will always be subpar because that's how she's designed. She's a support who can do damage but that damage is spirit based, yes her carbine scales off of gun damage but my point is you don't really need to build into gun much at all for carbine to do a lot and in general be a useful ability. That being said hollow point still has team fight utlity since it shreds armor, it's not bad but i'd rather get superior CD first
>>540171058Why would reloading deal so much damage?
>>540170747i'll post some damage breakdowns after inhouses if you doubt
>takes forever to connect>dies 3 times in lane with me>rotates, dies>quits>we lose a 40m 4v5Thanks, moon runes Calico player
>>540171187>Shoot them with carbine>Get 5-10 FREE headshots>win every 1v1 for the first 15 minutes of the gamelearn to aim
>>540171058Pretty much every single place you could possibly be on the map has somewhere you can reach with 1-2 stamina to avoid her ult, and if for some reason there isn't, why are you engaging a Mina there? Sounds like a massive skill issue to me.
>>540171196Sorry, I'm a recovering league addict.you know what i meant asshole
>>540170462Oh shit, inhouses are back? I hope I get to join when there's a slot.
>>540171414>nooo you don't understand this character should be able to oneshot kill you 10k souls down while you make no mistakes simply because she's camped out in a spot you "shouldn't fight her in"go fuck yourself minafag
>>540171058>You can't outdamage her because her R is the single strongest ability in the gameThere are several characters that can shoot her to death as she sits perfectly still in the air>You can't chase her becasue her 2 is so stupid, literally just mogs dynamo but stronger and it made him crySlowing hex, knockdown, stamina mastery>Echoshard just for 2if you are losing to a Mina buying echoshard for her 2 you have bigger issues
>play Seven for the first time since coming back 2 months ago>he's exactly as I rememberWill there ever be a better character?
>>540171630again, there isn't really a spot on the map where that would happengo ahead and show me exactly where on the map mina fucked your skull in and i will show you where you could have escaped to with 1-2 stamina points
>>540172454I think they'll nerf him before release. Infernus's kit by design is way more annoying to play against though
>>540171414people who say this are in such a shitlow rank that the minas they go against don't know that they can tele while ulting
Playing this game is kind of worse than dota, I'm guessing it's the smaller player pool now, but the matches are just so bipolar. Playing with people doing non-stop last hitting vs auto walking into lane and dying.
>>540171058>You can't outdamage her because her R is the single strongest ability in the gameeasily can
>>540172846>teles while ulting to chase you>has already missed half of her ult because you're not a retard and moved to avoid it>she now is missing her most important escape tool>rape her to deathlol
>>540172860it's the terrible matchmaking, nearly everyone that doesn't sink huge amounts of time into the game is trending downwards so the initiate-ritualist match quality is just getting worse and worse
when did you realized deadlock is overwatch but every character is queer?
>>540173082
>>540173025which overwatch character is straight?
I feel like Lash's and Paige's personality don't quite fit into the game.
>>540173529winston
>>540173385whitest character in the game he is allowed to say it
>>540173529genji
>>540171058what in the fuck are you building that a mina 10k souls below you kills you with 1 ultyou have to be terrible at the game
>>540173748>dogshit base hpmaybe there were 2 minas in his match
You know, if I didn't know any better, I would've assumed this game has absolutely no matchmaking.
ZR754Need 1 for inhouse.
>>540174520GG. I was the Infernus. Will be going to bed now.
every time I install visual mods my brain turns to mush and I lose a bunch of games in a row
>>540174520next game will be better
>>540152569*Fathom
>>540143976Should have bought cold front, niggy
I had some massive performance problems last gameLiterally played 3 games before inhouse (and patch) and now it was total ass
>>540174520Results of the first match.
>played vindicta and shiv>they are both shit now>liked victor too>he got immediately dumpsteredI think I'm cursed
>>540174896yeah i ran it the fuck down but peep the hero damage
>>540174979Shiv isn't shit right now.
>>540172709still ignoring the part where she oneshot someone 10k souls downno ult should do that much damage
Veil Walker is fucking cancer but I don't think it's broken enough for a nerf so I hate it even more than I normally would
>>540174979Shiv is climbing back up the overnerfed ladder.
>>540175041open the replay and show me what items both of you had
>>540175027Pure cope. His jungle is shit, his reload eternal, he is slow as fuck, no cc, no escapes, all he does is spam 2 and 4 if he gets lucky
>>540175245>His jungle is shitfarm lane>His reload eternalslide more>slow as fuckyou have a dash for reason, buy stamina>no escapesyou still have a dash for a reason>all he does is spam 2 and 4bro can't land one of the easiest skillshots in the game lol
Mina is so fucking bad, you have to be sweaty af just to be mediocre.
>>540175482she's actually pretty good but go off king!
>>540175415>let's pretend this dumb bullshit is fine by mentioning non-solutions!Not interested, cuck.
>>540175691>waaa im badi play shiv just fine in my oracle lobbies, stop being a baby
UPDATE
Finally giving this a try coming from Dota 2.What characters do I pick if I love nothing more than ratting towers?I'm a massive rat.The thought of ratting towers while the enemy team fights like retards gets me fucking HARD.I love turning my games into PvE and making it everyone else's problem.
>>540176041McginnisIvyWraithMina
>>540176041If all you want to do is rat, you pick Wraith, pop 3 and nuke towers with troopers. If someone contests you, teleport away.
>>540175482mina is a fairly strong hero that has a moderate skill floor and a very high ceiling. the people screaming that she is OP are just bad at the game. she likely wont get a hard nerf, probably just an adjustment to make the ult hit structures a little softer and track players better. people in this general are genuinely mostly initiate->ritualist and their opinions should be disregarded. except for mine, because i'm great at the game.
>>540176215most of the problem is from spirit burn too, which is almost 100% getting fixed to only proc once on npcs
>>540176353Yeah I have no idea why they don't just make it reduced cooldown already instead of 0cd.
>>540142015>have to constantly lane janny and backup my retarded allies because I play a character like lash or paradox who is very good at doing these thingsif I buy le meta veilwalker I have to take objectively slower routes to top myself off between fights and +4 speed doesn't matter. if I take fortitude it just werks and I'm at every fight with max HP ready to fuck the enemy team or their towers.it just werks
>>540176353>>540176437Agreed, they'll probably just give it like a 1 second CD or something, maybe just prevent it from counting it's own damage for proc threshold. I think the reason they haven't killed it yet is they want her to be able to nuke objectives with the ult and are probably trying to figure out an adjustment that doesn't gut her/make her OP.
>>540176693>objectively slower routesnigga there are veils literally everywhere on the map
is the infinite money bug fixed now?
>>540177137Yes
>>540176803except the roofs aka the fastest way to travel the mapveilwalker is a great item too, but this idea that fortitude has no use I've seeing posted is just dumb
>>540176803Its for poor people, patricians run Fortitude and Shadowweave for the superior experience. Longer duration invis; heals come to me, i dont go to them. It's like eating a hearty 5 course steak meal while the plebians fight over stale bread
>>540177578there are veils on the rooftops too, every single hidey-hole on the map is a veil
>>540176803instead of just running from point A to B you have to constantly take pit stops at juke closets or go around a building to walk through the veil on the other side
>>540177746>pit stop>takes half a second to walk in and out>get +4ms for your trouble
The veilwalker vs fortitude argument is ignoring the fact that veilwalker can be procc'd mid combatGetting +250 in the middle of a fight + invis + a movespeed bonus is invaluable for chasing or escaping, Fortitude just doesn't have that utility
>>540178064Fortitude just gives you +250 straight up tho beit
>>540178241Sorry. +250 health from healing, not max health.
>>540178064It just needs to do something more. An item that is essentially Warmog’s doesn’t feel useful in Deadlock’s dynamic
Veilwalker is fun, therefore it's balanced.
New IgorESL item ludo just dropped.https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/item-idea-torment-pulse-evolution.83271/
put a wizard in this gamenot a magician, a wizard
nice game
Putting myself unassigned for 10 mins while I do something
>>540178805what do you think paige is
>>540178805spirit abrams is right there
>>540178948some stripper
>>540178948>paigeThe only thing thick about a wizard should be his beard
>>540174896Post second game stats
>>540178908>john deadlockfigures this retard would post here
>>540178913your husband couldn't wait?
There needs to be a 4800 tier. 6400 is just too much for an item if it doesn't upgrade from something in the early to mid game. There are also some items I feel like are too strong to be 3200 items but not strong enough to be 6400 and shouldn't receive buffs to compensate for it. Alternatively some 6400 items don't feel strong enough to be in that tier but don't feel like they'd be useful if they were nerfed to fit 3200. idk what do you guys think?
>>540176041Wraith or miku maybe
Why does Viscous ask for Holliday’s hat but not Wraith’s? Is he racist?
can I have billy
>>540179148There's like 500 accounts with that name anon
>>540179148Hes enjoying dabbing on lower rank players like me with veilwalker rush on lane
>>540179148HOLY SHIT THIS GUY DIED SEVERAL TIMES IN ONE GAME THE HERESYTHE NERVE
so what's it like to eat carrots
>>540179505they're pretty good, i like to put them in stew
Been running melee Doorman it's fun and if I manage to cart someone they're basically always a confirmed kill but I always have so little damage it's infuriating
>>540175415>>540175245I don't think shiv is bad but he feels like a character who really suffers from the slot/shop changes. if you don't get gun items his gun is just a paperweight outside of the funny sliding tech which still needs burst fire but his 1/2 have very little utility on a full gun build. the items that really help his knives are often mutually exclusive with items that really help his dash, you need tanky stuff or his 3 doesn't matter past lane, you need movement and/or something like decay to keep rage from falling off. and this is before any counter items
>>54017949411 deaths and 4 assists means he contributed nothing to teamfights, but 0 object damage means he wasn't even playing objective. he literally did nothing the whole gameI say "he" but should I instead say "you"?
When are we getting a draft mode
>>540179978are you hungry for his love? you been keeping tabs on this one guy for a long time
>>540178948
>>540178948nta but i thought she was a fairy tale thing, haven't played her
>>540178948Cute trans girl
>>540179148>not AbramsFake and AI generated
make minas hitbox fattershe is impossible to hit
>>540179148stop being mean to my fellow shitter
>>540180901make her canonically chubby too. thanks.
>>540178948Ginger Snowbunny who helps Mina out.
>>540180668But enough about Lash
>win lane>opponent leaves game>game not counted>next game>win lane>help every other lane push tower/gank>somehow still lose gamei will never leave arcanist
>>540181041*The LASH
Veilwalker healing for 200 is absurd
>>540181012Why is a “snowbunny” fucking a Korean vampire
>>540181221They are both getting fucked by Pocket and they have a big penis for sex
>>540181343What does that yuppie have to do with anything
Preparing prime sloppa while this inhouse is going onNo stream today cause my performance was ass and i was crashing after "hotfix"
>>540181527Mina is hatefucking him
>>540181221snowbunny literally just means hot white girl or has the definition changed?
amber hand playing like faggots
>>540181748anon...
>>540181748Where I’m from it meant a girl who likes to skii/snowboard or at least likes guys who do
>>540181748let him believe it does it will lead to funny moments in the future
>>540181748It's a white girl that only wants BBC
actual waste of time with 3 matches in the inhouse
stompy game
>>540181783you need to put women respecter on the same team as john deadlock, nigga missed 2 point blank dynamo ultsthis isnt anyone playing like faggots this is you guys being ass
ggs boys terrible games today tmr will be better
>>540181884But he was on my team the first 2 games and we still wonAlso you guys kind of gave up your entire map to giga gank me a few times and only got a kill once xd
>>540181748Timmy I...
>Friends comment how the enemy team seems to be pulling souls out of their ass>/dlg/ says theres an infinite souls money printer exploit active right nowIs everyone cheating except me again?
pocket would be the most fun character in the game if he had literally any other ult. how do you give a guy with 3 really dynamic moves the most brain off "push button receive damage" ult in the whole damn game
Holy shit what a stomp. GG tho, I learned a fair bit from that.
>>540181783>>540181884yea the roster should have been john deadlock, woman respecter, scarecrow, bug shaker, kimaris and none of the good players there
I love how infinite souls exploits have happened not once, but twice this year.
>>540182254Happens in dota frequently as well
>>540182254what IS the exploitif someone on the enemy team uses it I must use it in kind
>>540143440>Shiv ULT AOEGrey Talon has that and it's global range
>>540182010there's other assassins, the game is way too snowbally to have two of the mouth breathers on the same team
>>540182306patched already
>enemy team gets the Rejuvenator >my retards immediately all group up looking for a teamfight outside of the baseEvery fucking game. Every person I've ever played with does not deserve to be alive.
>>540179978That's not even my account I even went and checked to be sure kek I doubt you're even high enough MMR to get into my games
Hey guys today im playing against total shitters, lets rush veilwalker like a tranny and terrorize them until they dont want to play no more
>>540182010>But he was on my team the first 2 games and we still wonNo he didn't, what?>>540174896
>>540182117he's basically puck but if he had dream coil it would be too strong
>>540182403>enemy team is ahead enough to get a no contest rejuv>if we fight in base and win it's another 15 minutes of shit>if we go out and die i get to go nexteasy choice
>>540182552Oh well he was still on it in the second game but I don't have the stats screen
haze is fun but im a contrarian faggot...
>>540182306Read the forums. Someone posted a way to do it.
>>540181343>theykys tranny
Is there a more cowardly item then veilwalker? Woah I took some damage better FLEE TO THE SHADOWS. Contrast that to Fortitude. Stalwart and defiant, you just standing their with your +hp saying, yea i bought Fortitude, what are YOU gonna do about it? I mean, it's got a god damn lion on the image for christ sake. If that doesnt say COURAGEOUS KING, then you might be blind deaf AND dumb.
>>540182910>taps you from 800 miles away with 1 damageo woops, sorry were you regening all the way over there
>>540182542heh jokes on you I wanted to keep playing
>>540182542If you're losing to bomb bebop not even buying items properly that's a skill issue
>>540182749That's the point, you put two bad players on the same team and it falls apart.The game is broken and there's nothing the other team can do when there's 2 bad players, it snowballs out of control and the entire map is lost, any attempt at taking it back or fighting or getting anything done is near impossible because you're 2 players down.You can't split push because they didn't damage the tower and it's been massively nerfed, since everyone's ahead any 1 person can instantly stop you.You can't farm because they fed the shit out of the enemy so you don't have a jungle anymore.You can't teamfight because they're bad and they're gonna miss and do dumb shit, case in point, people missing point blank dynamo ults or dynamo ults on a guy that was viscous cube'd and the viscous right next to him waiting to save him.
>>540183023Same, honestly. I might have eaten shit three times, but you learn the most from defeat, so I was content with bashing my head against the wall until it clicked.My second game as Billy was a fucking disgrace though. I was too cocky for how dogshit my laning was.
Thank you for making the most of the opportunities Holliday provides
More inhouse after steam maintenance?
>>540182542>>540182910didn't want to say this but since you are being such a bitch, you were the only shitter doorman you dragged your lane and the entire team down
>>540182982A lion does not concern himself with the insignificant
>>540181343Pocket is the most cuck coded hero in the game. He ain't fucking shit.Even Dynamo the literal "bought a nintendo switch 2 at scalper prices on launch" is less of a cuck.Press "s" to spit on every briefcase tranny.
>>540183284I played like ass but him abusing veilwalker didnt fucking help no?Also only one of those posts is mine
>>540183098I’m not even high rank and I could counter-item the bomb bop, but today’s inhouse was so shit in which all 3 games my lane partner was HOT ASS and inted several times. They were like completely cheeks getting 8-12 deaths by the end of a game (<30 mins btw). At that point, when niggas are feeding so hard there is little that spellbreaker, spirit resist, and debuff remover can do when their whole team is up and you have RETARDED niggas on your team
>>540183275I'm down for more in like an hour
>>540183284Sounds like the McGinnis or Yamato (debuff remover before 10k souls Mirage) whining to me desu
>>540182982I bet you ran healing rite you freaking jabroney
>>540182042It got patched so forget it
>>540182910Fortitude hater here, I have no malice towards veil walker, I just hate retards who think fortitude is good, thanks have a nice day
>>540183358you type like a woman
>>540183474trvke, fortitude is trash literally any other source of healing is better
>>540183417I only whined about one thing and it was my team not having any anti heal items after 30 minutes vs healing tempo mcginnis and lifestealers.
>>540183098We did, I had debuff remover before 10 minutes. Should've bought counter spell instead though. The match itself was unwinnable though, Blue lost every lane and amber hand finished the game with a Guardian still up.
>>540183474>ShivniggerStopped reading right there.
>>540183474basedi don't know why retards keep buying it after it got gutted so hard>durr just do nothing for 20 seconds and you get epic heals broyeah or you could go back to the spawn and come back (takes 20 seconds)
>>540183535replying to yourself is unbecoming
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/doormans-door-casting-causing-frame-drops.83361/No wonder my pc had a stroke in last inhouses
>try victor for the first time>feed>abandoni am not going to waste my time + waste my teammates time + feed the egos of retards that think they're good
>>540183601>The match itself was unwinnable though, Blue lost every laneMid lane was winning until there was 4 people on the lane.That's the issue with having several bad players, the game is GENUINELY badly designed and near unwinnable when you do, the impact of a really bad player can be way higher than the impact of a good player.
>>540183798nigger
>>540183840Play more games as a different hero?
>win against a raidboss seven that's just been powerfarming his team's jungle so unbelievably hard that the rest of his team is starved for farmgonna be honest, we probably would have lost if we didn't have basekit cc from MK and holliday on our team, but it felt so good to ruin his fucking dayyou'd think he'd attempt something differently when the second highest teammate was 25k souls behind him and he is absent from 2 separate team fights in our jungle while we are contesting midboss
>>540183751News flash, veil walker also got gutted, you'd know that if you werent a tourist
>>540183319Translation >I got fucked by pocket but he's too hard for me to playGrow up troon stop projecting your HRT onto everything you hate.
>>540183953veil walker is also shit
Oh soul siphon is a cone not a 360 aura lmao I’m a dumbass.
>>540183798smartest forty bro
It's just fun
>>540184064I thought it was a circle for a very long time I don't remember if that was a change or I'm also just retarded
>>540183926I only found paradox pretty fun to play Holliday is decently fun tooBut either of those are too hard to play on 110ms connection to us east
>>540183319Based, never seen a mentally well pocket player. Its always some thinskinned discord tranny with an attitude. I know ingame reports do nothing just like in every other Valve game but I'll keep reporting ''people'' who try to correct me on his pronouns anyway.
>>540184107Cool stuffI bought decay in two games aswell, pretty nice when you put someone in gay baby jail
>>540184205>someone on the team starts BMing>pocket player>someone on the enemy team starts BMing>pocket player>someone with a bitchy high pitched voice starts mumble whining in voice >pocket player
Have commendations changed their meaning from "good" to "ironic good" or "bad"?I'm getting commendations from players I (rightfully) flame and make fun of, but they give me commendations anyway.Not that I'd care if they carried a negative connotation, but I must have missed the change.
>>540184587i only get them from the enemy when i play extremely well so
god I hope they never rework mo&krill, he's so perfect for aimlets like me. As long as you have good macro the character plays itself, it's free wins.
>>540184674The only thing I really want them to change is his 3. His ult is important because this game very much lacks other anti-carrys.
>>540184674do you mean micro
>>540184674Remove him entirely along with GT and Bebop. Characters that auto win for doing 1 thing despite being terrible is retarded. >land hook after missing 20 Free kills>lose lane and just KS with the bird across mapFree kills>terrible at the game but be unkillable with a 0 counterplay targeted 5 second stjnFree kills. 0 skill heros should be bad, meme picks for people who are dedicated.
>>540170747>>540171202here are some of my recent gamesparadox's damage is really split between all aspects of her kit+items, but gun damage should make up for a big chunk of it (especially with headhunter)
Why is infernus allowed to do full afterburn from africa but god forbid mirage does
I still don't understand why movement is circlejerked in this game when most matches I get into people don't try the "tech" if ever. Christ the movement already feels like shit so maybe that's why.
>>540185047mirage's 1 and 3 need huge fucking adjustments.
>>540185106Watch comp games you will seeA lot of shitters dont even know half the things you can doI know i dont and i played this for a bumch of hours
>>540185106most of the tech is inconsistent and honest a bit of a meme, but the fundamental stuff like preserving zipline momentum, bunnyhopping, air strafing and wall jumping all feel great once you get good at using it
>>540185047mirage is purely for chuds
>>540185047Infernus needs to trigger the afterburn (which is subject to bullet drop-off) before he can re-apply with a single shot.Mirage would be able to instantly plink you from any range and apply Djinn's Mark. They function differently for a direct comparison to be fair.
>>540184979Meanwhile on double bomb build
>>540184674no micro is what I lack and the mole requires none
>>540185416Bomb build is better and more reliable especially in pubs where people clumpbrooolCarbine build is for le epic clips of solokills and losing the game right after when you realize you are playing bad Grey Talon
>>540185379but it also takes mirage like 20 seconds of hitting those marks just to do less than his after burn
>>540185416>play against retards>build that only works against retards does numberswow! just like bebop!
>try to launch game in vulkan>Files corrupted, validate your files!Cool
>fix infinite soul glitch in hours>dont fix mo being a broken nigger for god knows how longfuck you yosh and fuck you icefrog
>>540185640>only works against retards>one of the biggest AoEs in the gameI guess everything smaller than my bombs only works against retards too
>>540184205others play pocket because of they/them pronouns, I play pocket because he reminds me of an 00's VN protagonist. we are not the same
I fucking hate nu computing honestly>Fake DLSS frames>Render quality, that drops your image quality more than any pixelation ever did>Instability>Somehow games requiring 300x more cpu power than they used to, despite having around same features as games of oldExplain
>>540185572Yes, because he can apply it with one shot per stack, as opposed to the 12 needed by Infernus in order to do any Afterburn damage at all.They function in different ways. Afterburn/Djinn's Mark being overtuned or not is a different discussion, but Djinn's Mark is applied in a different way and thus is subject to different rules.
mo is ugly so he gets to be broken dems the rules sorry to say
>>540185841Yeah, there's a reason why above a certain level you only see gun ivy and not kudzu spamPeople with functioning brains don't stand in aoes on the ground
>>540185106are you in initiate where they just spam the shift key off cooldown and never slide or dash-jump?
mina is so fucking shit jesus christ, how can people play her with her shitty gun and shitty everything?
>>540185416Build that does nothing early-mid where she is at her strongest
>>540185941I fuck up dash jumping often :/
>>540185926>watched an eternus 6 streamer last night with Kudzu ivy on their teamI don't think you know what you're talking about
>>540186207Was it kudzu ivy, or was it someone that just bought rapid recharge because kudzu is perfectly serviceable without dumping literally all your souls into it.
>>540185958I would rescue beam this guy
>>540185995You literally play the same as usual and pivot to bomb if you don't need gun damage. Max wall buy silence wave, swap them through and cast it for kills early. Paradox doesn't need damage to prosper at all you pisslow monkies always type so objectively when you struggle against the worst players in the game.
>>540186372yeah so it's not a "double bomb build" but just a normal paradox buildwhat's your point again
>>540186372you play bomb build because you can't aim and you're an in elo where it worksi play gun build because games last 25 minutes and still deal more damage
>>540186301It was full spirit Kudzu. I know because le ebin streamer was crying about it.
I’m gonna try gun Holliday (I will miss every shot)
>>540186548>ivy uses a bad build>streamer rightfully complains>"haha yeah these builds are good i saw it in an eternus game"are you actually retarded?
>>540186639You said "no one plays it" which is objectively not true, why are you dragging the goal post?
>neighbors up in my shit>would hear anything I say at speaking volume>would hear me screeching like an autist about vidya >can't really talk in comswhere gun
>>540186501Post an in game screenshot of your rank I'll wait. People hit Oracle once before dropping back down and claim they're high elo
>>540185958to play mina you have to brool
>>540186752i said above a certain level retard, if our le ebin streamer was smurfing, they're going to see shitters playing shit builds. hell even if they werent, matchmaking is so bad they could still have a shitter on their teamthe point is, it's just not good lol
>>540185893How else would they mine monero?
>>540186901technically emissary is high elo thobeit
>>540186772boost microphone input by 100db and whisper
>>540186772why would you give a shit about your neighbours hearing you
>>540185912how would you nerf mo?like what is actually OP about this character that causes people to get mad?
>>540186639It appears her superiority has lead to some controversy...
>>540187181Nta but scorn healing would be a good place to start
>>540187287ivy is very strong right now, yes. but it's not because of kudzu.
Shivbros...Im sorry... but...I can't do it anymore...This character is ASS!!......
>>540187339he is the most nerfed man in deadlock, surely it can't get any worse
Please don't get kudzu nerfed. I'd rather not have to build gun on Ivy. It’s not like just fucking moving is available as a counter play or anything.
>>540185941Most of the playerbase is there dumbass
>>540187339just buy decay retard, I literally cannot stop winning on Shiv and i'm in ritualist
>>540187180because they're so closeby that they'd be able to hear every word announciated clearlythat wouldn't make you not want to talk on coms at least a little less?
>lane against doorman & victorOH WOWI SURE DO LOVE GETTING ATTACKED UNDER/BEHIND TOWER FOR THE FIRST 5 MINUTES
>>540187687Das rite
>>540185958kill you are self
>>540183798>>540183578>>540183506>>540183417>>540183367>inhouses back for less than a week>drama immediately startsMaybe it’s better off when /dlg/ doesn’t play games
Rushed veilwalker first item.Am i a real woman now?
>>540187181A lot of the american playerbase seems to seethe hard at any sort of crowd control, it's probably only his ultimate that's causing them to complain
>>540187872Its not drama, just inevitable result when you have 3 back to back really terribly shuffled games, and to rub salt in would people try their hardest to stomp the fuck out of enemy team
>>540187943why are you trannies always building fotm items like divine shield, cold front, and veilwalker? Real Fortitude chads don't care what items other people are buying.
>>540188090I don't think anybody was tryharding in those games
>>540187181burrow is fine, ult is fine (hot take), I think scorn needs to be looked at.
>>540188090nta but I kinda appreciated the no mercy attitude, showed that I got a lot of room to grow, and gave me a valuable lesson about counter picks without the frustration of playing a solo queue game.
so inhouse is over for the day? if not post code
why play inhouses when you niggers can just make a premade stack?
>>540187180You can get fined or kicked out for screeching like a retard at night in first world countries.
>>540176215>probably just an adjustment to make the ult hit structures a little softer and track players betteri hope not on both accountsthe bats track perfectly fine save for some weirdness if you're solo ulting a flying vindictayou're supposed to be able to dodge them if you get behind cover, and if you don't want the bats to hit something, you move the target out of the cone, i do this all the time since the bat target priorities are random if there's more than one target in the cone, and i'll avoid having enemies in the cone entirely if i'm only trying to kill tower/walker and get the fuck out
>>540184674this is a fucking lie falseflag
>let's you know who to blame for the inevitable lossThanks Fortitude!
So at what point does mcginnis do something besides poke and be annoying to early lane against?
>>540188090The mistake a lot of shitters make is thinking that the when they get beat, it must be due to tryharding, when actually they're just so shit people who know how to play have to try to lose to them.If some dumbass who's 20k souls 30 minutes in tries to contest me pushing a lane, I don't expend great effort shooting him in the face for 3 seconds until he's dead.
>>540187591>decaypost buid
>>540188632I was exaggerating I wouldn't literally screech but the proximity is still so close that they might as well be inside the fucking room, I don't even fucking know these people sorry if I don't want to broadcast to them what I'm doing
i can't find a character i vibe with
>Ivy will never call you papi
>>540187287Whenever I've used the bomb it just does absolutely nothing. Even when using a teammate the shit doesn't work for me. From some of the characters I've played these ukte just don't make sense to me
>>540182021Good morning saar
>>540188869I was on the team that lost every time (opposite of John Deadlock’s of course), and it’s pretty’s obvious that whoever shuffled was being a complete niggerfaggot to put a lot of bad players on the other team. It really felt like my pubs with assfaggots matchmaking, so whoever clicked start match genuinely ruined the inhouse. I mean they were running ECHO SHART BOMBBOP, and we lost (???)
>>540189216Wasn't the second game quite close/even though?
I ate dinner. Did you? Time for Inhouse.BNB67BNB67BNB67
>>540187607I couldn't care less really they're just strangers
>>540189349no, the enemies got rejuv twice, and we had no map pressure outside of ivy ratting their yellow lane base guardians. It was better than 1 and 3 but still doodoo ass and ended prematurely
>>540189392I'll give it about 10 minutes and if we don't get a game I'll head to sleep
reminder, if you>Bought THE item>Picked IT up>Dont pause for PEEPS>Dont honor lane truce>Tryhardyou didn't actually win inhouse
>>540185958kill yourselfpress r and win any fighteven if you dont get a kill you get a free escape thanks to it and it'll always do at least half healthretarded thing shouldnt ever silence
>>540189673>press r and win any fighthow deep in the trenches is this
main cool down when.
>>540188138I need to be like my fav streamer metro(sexual)
>>540185958>bully the everliving shit out of mina>refuse to give stacks>she becomes a cuckgoblin that gets curb stomped by collateral damage in team fights
>>5401893926/12
>>540189216Every match some cunt has shuffled and they’re all one-sided stomps
>>540189216Stacked teams suck, that's fair, and shit players absolutely lose the game as opposed to good players winning them. That being said, playing with kiddy gloves on so the shitters don't throw a tantrum when they run it down is worse than playing with pugs, and throwing shit at the good players for being good just feels like a case of sour grapes.
>>5401893929/12 Hurry up.
>>540189914but that’s not what I am trying to get atThey are clearly some pretty bad players and they should all be on John Deadlock’s team. Let me matchmake I already got a feel for the relative skill levelsshrimple as
There might still be frame drop issues with playing Doorman by the way so watch out for that
>>540189392Need 2 more players.BNB67BNB67BNB67
>>540189914It’s also a problem of some players joining the inhouse with meme builds to have fun and other players ramming it up their ass
>>540184398People claim heroes like Seven, Fern or haze attract shitters. I mean this is true but Pocket players are always something else and he isnt a M1 nigger, what gives
Can they buff Vyper already I miss hearing her lines she has some of the best.
>>540190316ONE PLAYER
>>540190490I'm coming
>>540190480NOOOOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS NOW. RIGHT. FUCKING. NOW.
>>540190480
>>540189392I'm in! Weird how I can pick Doorman even though there's a Doorman on the other team and dupe heroes is disabled
>NOOOOOO DON'T HAVE FUN ON THE IN HOUSE YOU HAVE TO USE HECKIN METARINO BUILDS WAHHH I WANNA STROKE JOHN DEADLOCKS BIG DEADCOCK WAHHH Shut up niggers go shit up another thread
>>540190480>3000>1250wtf is this exchange rate
>>540190480>3000>1250excuse me? do you guys have a coupon code for the shop or something
>>540190626old prices
>>540190382>fernjust say the african american what the fuck
>>540190626>>540190674fucking newfags
Can you guys stop bricking the lobby? The new heroes can for whatever reason be picked even if someone else has picked them, even when duplicate heroes are offIf you do this, nobody else can pick after you
>>540190689>>540190729it was a joke, friends. not sure why you'd post old stats anyway.
>>540190836forty bros are stuck in the past
>>540190836The stats are recent, the item prices are just a relic.
why are there two goats
>>540190773Wait, what? How long has this been a thing? Why hasn't anyone reported this to the forums?
>>540190773its true you can't ready up
>>540190773>>540190919Someone need to create a new one
>>540190102And the it becomes a stomp the other way because shitters do more damage to their team than good players do the enemy.The same shit happened in eu /lolg/ inhouses years ago, the bad players would consistently lose no matter how highly ranked the top players on their team were, and they all behaved in the same way of bitching about tryhards when they were just god awful.The only fair way is to shuffle and accept that some games are going to go south very quickly.
>>540190773Yeah don't do that. New lobby9XPW99XPW99XPW9Apologies
>>540190931there is almost no one playing inhousesif they gave a shit about this mode we'd have all chat coms by now - but even in dota that was a console command you had to force to work
>>540190931Probably nobody plays custom games enough.>>540190974>>540191006It's fine, as long as the dupes are unpicked. Or then you can just turn on the dupe heroes to let the other people pick as well.>>540191049There's no need to move.
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What's the latest you'd build a Trophy Collector as Lash? I try and fit it after getting my base spirit damage items + Cold Front but I'm not sure when I should consider it too late.
>>540191095woops, too late now. People are moving
NEED 1 PLAYER 9XPW99XPW99XPW9
>>540191192Yeah, it's fine. It's a bit annoying, it might be hard to notice if you're picking a new hero that someone has already done it
laasti should not be on amber
>gun ivy starts talking shit after getting 2 kills right after getting tesla bullets>buy disarming hex>spends the rest of the game crying when i run them down and use it on them constantlyheh
>>540137842>all kinds of attractiveness>a giant spider>a ball of light>a granny>a dragon>an animal>the other are barely human or alive
>>540142015>have to wait 14 whole seconds with no damage to regain only 2% health per second.the regen is good but fucking hell 14 is way too long
>>540188787when she knows how to use wall to trap people into kills and take objectives constantly/immediately
>>540188787When you buy tesla bullets and fleetfoot and run people down like the menace you are
ARAM when?MvM when? I know this is a pipe dream.Gimmick matches like all 1 character when?
>>540192131release.
>>540191673forty bros could literally just spend 800 on a healing rite, get the movement speed when they need it, heal when they need it, and save 2400 souls, but the active is just too much to handle :(((
>>540184979NTA but if the character needs to scrounge every little bit of damage from so many different sources, maybe it's not very good.
>>540192262every character in the game ends up looking like this at the end of a match retard-kun, they were just showing that paradox typically does a lot of gun damage
things are looking pretty dire for the sapphire flame
>>540192131all of these are gonna happen eventually even valve doesn't wanna make moba the only gamemode
>>540192480>3k soul difference>up a guardiannah
Is there a way to make the mini map look better? I unironically have a hard time reading it since most of the icons are small as fuck. Especially those bullet shape things
>>540192607not yet, complain on the forums.
>>540191673just make healing rite upgrade into it and give it a new active that starts the regeneration on demand.
>>540137842that's why it's called DEIlock
>>540192317>every character in the game ends up looking like this at the end of a match retard-kunThat is an objective lie. Not many characters end up with that many sources of 1-9%. It only means that paradox has to scrounge and play her entire kit well to reach acceptable damage levels.
>>540191092Allchat does workYou need to bind party voice chat button and use that
>>540192664>complain on the forumsthat's useless, complain to one of the no life aspiring pros in the secret playtest, that's the only people they listen to
How do you not want to kill yourself when you have like, free win on your hands and retards just throw it away
Which heroes use weighted rounds and benefit from it ? love that item
>>540192983I don't assign my personal self worth to computer games with strangers.
>>540192861can you have a party of 12?
>>540193063...damn
>>540192983That it wasn't me throwing it away? Now if I was the reason we were losing then I'd feel bad.
>>540192983>Retreat>Retreat!>Retreat!!>Retreat!!!>Oh man, they took out Infernus.>They got Billy...>Haze is down.>Lose
>>540193214YeahEntire lobby is considered a party
the miku ginnis difference
The goonslop has turned out nicelyHows the status on IH rn
wait a minute, forty bros?
>>540192931Oh Jesus they only listen to pros? Fuck off this game is done for
>>540193678Even worse, streamers
>>540193656>buy fortitude>lose
can they rework mo and infernus to take some skill to play or will they be brain dead because "beginner hero"?
>>540194000First MOBA?
lil bro trying his heart out
>>540194070riot would have nerfed them by now thobeit
>>540194000The games tutorial is literal garbage so what do you think?
>>540194000Why are so many people complaining about monkrill now? It wasn't like this last year, what changed?
amber hand fumbling their grip on this game
>>540194142I seriously have no idea why a mid game boss exists when no one in my experience even tries to go for it
>>540194000nobody bought knockdown
>>540191214I'm Ritualist 1, why am I top of my team with Doorman
>>540194379midboss exists to bait the winning team to run away instead of actually winning
>>540194375weapon yamato is so fucking useless lmao
>>540194504>>540193898many such cases
>>540194338non interactive burst damage, best single target CC with stacks, and unkillable tank probably
>>540194434because most players here are below ritualist 1 btw
When are the nigger devs going to change the name of midboss to be less confusing? "Let's go mid" yeah sure the lane or the objective...
>>540190596if you're in an eating shit competition you might want to copy the flies technique though, objectively more people win buying fortitude then veil walker.
>>540192776(You) are retarded.
>>540193678It's the same shit they did with Artifact, take a bunch of feedback from people who are more interested in making a career out of the game then making a good game. They should try making the game fun first before trying to balance it into a hyper competitive wankfest.
Replace healing stat with damage taken
>>540194682mid lane is blue.
>>540194938Let's push blue!
>>540194375is this game still going or a new one started?
>>540188737fortitude is bad cuz duhhh cuzzhhhh uhhh durr u can just go back to base! ignore the fact that it gives an efficient boost in health or that it's one of the few sources of flat move speed increase without relying on an active or very specific conditions
>>540194682more irritating is I'm trying to ping mid lane to get someone to focus, or someone to gank near mid lane, and the callout is always "lets get midboss"
Why does this game do so little to actually explain to new players what the hell anything is? The hell is uncollected souls? The hell are the bullet things on the map? What does jungling actually do? What do the boxes around the map actually do besides souls gathering?
>>540195834>The hell is uncollected souls?i think you mean unsecured souls :)they are souls you get from neutral enemies in the jungle or boxes or slot machines :)you lose them if you die before spending them and they slowly convert to normal souls over time :)>The hell are the bullet things on the map?jungle camps of neutral enemies that you kill to get souls :)
Europe's not sending their best
>>540196190Is there a way to make the mini map more visible? I legit can't see the jungle cam icons sometimes
>>540196260they win automatically because of shiv
>>540193019bump
>>540196340Also what's the point of that slot machine thing? I broken it a couple times and it gave me nothing
OH BUT WHATS THIS?
>>540196520souls and if you heavy melee it when the lights at the top are flashing you get 3 bonuses like extra health
>>540196732no matter who wins, fort losses
>>540196732green gote
frag
>have a really bad day>queue anyway because no other game hits the same way>play like an animal, feed, and tank my rank
>>540197001BUT WAIT sapphire flame DOUBLES DOWN
Amber hand considers moving back to Fortnite tonight
>>540197514I really hate Victor
>>540197906another easy loss for fortitude
Bake new bread
>>540197961whats this though >>540197514
>Holliday grabs the Victor in spawn>Dies to Victor's 3 and he just walks out
>>540198046nigga did you see how fed he is?
Idk seems like in this game you just pick whatever m1 hero, or le tanky aoe heroes and they just deathball and run towards enemies>>540198046With double healing reduction too
>>540198038Anything works when you have a guy dying like 5 times to split shot rush yamato in lane.>>540198158>>540198158>>540198158>>540198158
>>540198145healbanes hardly actually do anything because his heal just full cleanses lmao
>>540196854I've done that and it never gave me anything
are these teams even remotely balanced
>>540198106>>540198145Healbane items are not the play against Victor, you need to silence him. Focus Lens is great against him because you mag dump him and then he blows up before he can use the heal.
