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>News
Agent Record | Yidhari
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40707205
Agent Record | Komano Manato
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40688172
Agent Record | Lucia
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40687818
Version 2.2 Special Program
https://youtu.be/-WZRmhZWcfU

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://youtu.be/jaxcn1kja9Y (EN)
https://youtu.be/buGfCjPLaZc (JP)
https://youtu.be/-m6kXWPwlls
https://youtu.be/QKJj_AUOMTY (EN)
https://youtu.be/B42cNUVgzWU (JP)
https://youtu.be/yVudzVUiBBQ (EN)
https://youtu.be/pqOJai2C7S0 (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.2
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/159176
All-New Program 09/03 - 10/14
Floral Voyage Into the Unknown 09/03 - 10/13
Band of Brave Bangboo 09/05 - 10/13
Wish Bottle Adrift 09/05 - 09/29
Spotlight Showdown 09/13 - 09/29
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 09/18 - 09/23
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/24 - 10/14
Problem Soldier Boot Camp 09/24 - 10/09
Rhythm Rave 09/29 - 10/13
"En-Nah" Treasure Hunt 10/04 - 10/13
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/09 - 10/14

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ22OBOLSQUAD

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://interknot-network.com

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Here I milked this from Orphie.
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>>540235306
Why is it brown?
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AntiKuma Nudesign glazers are pathetic and have Stockholm Syndrome
Mindraped Hoyomonkeys
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z83rQiyB2Js
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>>540235168
ZAMN ORPHIE LOOKS LIKE THAT???
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I love Evelyn but already have her and her sig. Wish her mindscapes were miyabi or yuzuha level good. Would gladly pull m2 then.
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ORPHIE RAPE!
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>>540234676
This worked.
Is the history permanently saved on my rng.moe account if I don't do the global sync?
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>>540235467
Licl licl lick lick lick likcl lick lick lick licl
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I miss THOSE Hugo posts
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Holy shit Seed banner can't end soon enough!
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>>540235552
Magus would shot you
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>>540235467
I really wish she was in 2.3
I have 350 rolls to spend on Manato and I'd gladly get more mindscapes for my Eve in process
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>>540235383
Maybe lambkin milk looks like that.
Or flavoring.
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>Yenless Yen Zero
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>>540235306
I want Koleda's milk
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I rolled for Evelyn and her ball on debut because I love Saber clones. Am I supposed to roll Orphie for her?
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>>540235885
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>>540235898
Best I can give you is sweat.
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>>540235943
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The best flat chest?
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>>540236158
Piper
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Seed killed the hype.
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I have to choose between Evelyn or Orphie I can't pull both
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>>540236158
Elfy after I throw her body into a hydraulic press
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>>540236257
Ananta killed the hype
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>>540236362
>Ananta
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>>540236158
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>>540236257
Devs killed the game by taking TVs out and never filling the void successfully
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>>540236362
>working for free
>completely unprompted
you're worse than a jannie
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>>540236362
>>540236392
I wish I was hyped for this shit. I don't like open world gachas
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Bros hsrg keep making fun of us...
>>540235308
>>540235420
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>>540236158
Souk
>>540236208
C cups aren't flat.
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>>540236392
Was I supposed to say woowah like the pajeets that never shut the fuck up about it?
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>>540236457
TV killed this game. CBT players told them but the devs didn't listened and it filtered a lot of retards. They should have removed TV before 1.0
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>>540235554
Yes.
I wonder what's going on with the global upload. It has been broken for a while now.
The only facts and statistics based site.
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>>540236541
more seething at us lmao
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>>540235606
Speaking of him, do people still use him today?
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>>540236457
>never filling the void successfully
They should utilize Hollow levels more.
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>>540236703
...
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>>540236703
TOTALIZED is a great mechanic
should be on more Agents instead of just him
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>>540236608
Fixing TV would have saved the game but now we have no gameplay other than random minigames and some action combat in flat environments
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Why does the Orphie banner release so late for NA?
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wtf kek
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So, we basically already know almost all characters for 2.x?
>8 slots for S-ranks left
>Banyu, Zhao, Azural, Ye's sister, 3 idols
That's 7 limited characters + 1 still unknown.
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ZZZ needs to be shutdown desu
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>>540236958
Is it confirmed they'll run till 2.7?
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Should I get Orphie if I have SAnby and Trigger and don't like the 2.3 designs
Or should I get Evelyn sig and save for Lighter's next rerun
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>>540236845
I think they'll bring them back eventually since the system is already there completely ready. everyone will hate it as they always did though
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Make your own decisions, retard.
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>>540237051
No, not yet
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>>540236958
Who? Whom? Whomst? I haven't checked the thread in a while are there pics for the new chars or just text leaks?
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>>540237037
>worse than seed
Its fucking over this month will somehow make less than hugo's month
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>>540237105
Who are you quoting?
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>>540237120
All leaks and speculations, no pics yet
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>>540236457
Unironically >>540236608
The launch of a game is the most important. You're already guaranteed to lose a huge chunk of the players that try a new game. By having TVs there at the start and reducing that number further by another massive chunk they severely hindered their growth.

On launch that lull in the middle of Chapter 3 where you couldn't progress the story any more until your Interknot level got multiple levels higher (like 40 I think) so you had to spend days doing nothing but TV commissions was an absolute kneecapper. That was the spot most got filtered at.
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>>540237037
those two are the same thing. they're both mihoyo. do you really think they dont understand they are cannibalizing the market by having multiple games?
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>>540237120
Idols, Zhao and the back of Ye's sister we've seen. Banyu Azural are text leaks.
Banyu is apparently an S rank version of Manato's kit. Actual humiliation ritual after demoting him to A
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>>540236958
>Banyu, Zhao, Azural, Ye's sister, 3 idols
Who's the void hunter?
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>>540237165
HuGOD was kino though. He sold very well considering he was competing with Miyabi AND released right before Yi Xuan. OBOL has no excuses for flopping.
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>>540237294
Yixuan.
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>Ban yue
>male
>robot
>chink
Nice flop for cocksucking retards who don't play the game.
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Serious question, why is it that love and deepspace never got any hate? It’s literally what every gacha tourist player complains about genshin and zzz for: the gooner shit, self insert, lack of POC (or any characters with darker skin), and the gender imbalance (with no rollable female characters, since it’s essentially a fucking otome game ffs). Why do women force themselves to play a game that wasn’t catered to them in the first place? There are no male characters at t0 in ZZZ at 1.0, so it’s obvious that the game is more catered toward male gooners. If you're forcing yourself into a space designed for male players, don’t complain if hoyo caters to that audience more. Why is female can goon in peace but not male? And why do female always invade a male space and ruin everything?.
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>>540236608
>>540237226
I will never understand why it survived past CBT. If the overwhelming majority absolutely despised it with only a minority going "well.. it's ok I guess" they should've gutted it entirely right there and then
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The problem with ZZZ is that it's a fucking tech demo. It has a cool combat system but no content. It's like if DMC released with the same combat but not having a campaign or levels to play.
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What is blud waffling about?
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Zhao gave me CHILLS
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>>540237226
The worst thing is that TV isn’t fully removed yet. It should not be accessible in any way. The fall guys stages also have a lot of potential but it’s clear mihoyo is not going to put in the effort to make it actually fun.
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>>540237120
two furries from leaks bunny and another, male fire rupture punch guy, the 3 angels of delusion, Ye's sister who has a giant sword, and then hula hoop girl.
We have the full list for this year.
>>540237264
>Banyu is apparently an S rank version of Manato's kit. Actual humiliation ritual after demoting him to A
You said this pissbaby pussy shit last thread thirdie. Their kits are not the same at all.
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>>540237365
I have no idea what the fuck are they doing, there's literally no excuse for not releasing Manato as an S-rank and going with this guy instead.
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>>540237373
>why is it that love and deepspace never got any hate?
The ones that are loud and vocal are a mixture of doomjeets and those same troons/fujos/yumes/fags who play love and deepspace
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I want a hip hop kung fu robot with a giant sticker that say ROBOT
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>>540237449
>no content
What's Lemnian Hollow?
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We GODDAMN fucking flopped again
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>>540237165
>worse than seed
Seed was 22 at that time, Orphie is 17. She's doing better than Seed but significantly worse than Alice.
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>>540237521
>same role
>same attribute
Yeah, he fucking killed Manato
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>Orpheus is tailor made for SAnby and vice versa
>Most of her synergy with SEED got gutted in the beta
>Somehow still bumps SEED from T1 to T0.5 but not SAnby
Hmmmm, ok.
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>>540237705
A bunch of empty halls you run through once and have no reason to go back to other than side missions?
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>>540237329
Its sad how seed performed worse than lighter(sent to die before miyabi) and hugo(sent to die before yi xuan and the top up reset)
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>>540237524
It's even more baffling that they saw the public outcry fro westerners who are the majority who pay, apparently, the popularity he's getting elsewhere in fanart, and then said "yeah lets waste dev time making several other agents when we have a banner to sell right here."
They could've also made him a solid A rank who is basically S so there's a reason to give a shit about anybody in standard banner that isn't Nicole but they're not doing that either.
>inb4 the obese brownoid neet spams nicole laughing
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>>540237771
Probably waiting for her buff, or else they would need to raise twice and I doubt she will T0
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I'm really happy for my Shifu, who keeps winning, bigly
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>>540237806
TRVTHNAMI
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The only positive in this situation is that all obnoxious twitter fags will flock to the new S-rank guy and leave my boy alone.
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>>540237329
I don't get why they do this to male banners. I get they want people to have a skip patch to build resources, but then to turn around and say men don't sell when you're putting mandated god tier units against them is just a self fulfilling prophecy.
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>>540237771
They were ALWAYS going to bump Seed up to T0.5, even said it in the notes. They just didn't want her in T0.5 from the get go and then having to defend keeping her in the same tier after Orphie launches
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>>540237428
TV enjoyers will tell you that they were sticking to their guns and that if only they'd fixed it instead of deleting it everyone would've loved it eventually.

In reality they had to keep it around even after all the multiple beta feedback about not liking it because they'd already developed it and couldn't just go and remove it while aiming for a clean launch. They did try to fix it and improved it every CBT and then for multiple live patches. But even after all those improvements it turns out most didn't care for it and gave up doing them. It is telling that even with how much of a dip in quality and extra work it took to recover from removing them (the reason they didn't outright do so to start with) they still saw something in their telemetry that said it was the best long-term move.
>>540237517
>The fall guys stages also have a lot of potential but it’s clear mihoyo is not going to put in the effort to make it actually fun.
Agreed. It's just too straightforward. Eous has a hammer attack now and they couldn't even put in some simplistic pixelated PNGs as "virus security" enemies or something? Make you have to explore a path to hit a button to open the path to the end? The last one was literally a straight line.
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>>540237373
i will assume you are seriously asking, zzz basically did a rugpull.
they released males at decently consistent pace (low number but consistent, lighter 1.2, harumasa 1.4, hugo 1.7) then after 1.7 they just rugpulled everyone and stopped sharply, we could very well have no males until 2.5 or 2.6 at this rate.

love and deepspace is an otome game, a literal dating sim, it's what you expect from that game, it's just on the spicier side of things, no one expects female characters because the game was cattered to straight women from day one.

if you want a more accurate comparison look at honkai impact 3rd, no one complains about a lack of males because it was never in the contract in the first place, when they release some from time to time players either welcome it a nice surprise, or seethe about it (that's mostly 4chin schizos) but otherwise everyone is fien with the game's proposition, there was no baiting and switching
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>>540237916
shifu keep winning bigly
wukeks lost bigly
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>>540237450
Honestly this is just my rant... Why do societies hate male gooner but love female goonette...
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wisewimps lost
wukeks lost
shifu wins
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>>540237373
Women are subhuman
There I answered your question
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what did they mean by this
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>>540237916
Is there a porn version of this?
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>>540237972
But they wanted Manato. They are mad because he's not an S, they're not going to like a robot martial artist over him since the aesthetic isn't even going to be the same. The only thing that might happen, is if they design the new guy's WEngine to be compatible with Monato in such a way that it makes him close to as good as the limited. But since Mihoyo are faggots it's not happening.
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>>540238070
It seems they won, seeing as they live rent free in your brain.
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What's up with the inferiority complex that this thread has with HSR? Completely different genres
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>>540237517
I don't miss TV in the main story but It's fine as a side mode.
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>>540238139
very true
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>>540238013
I don't know how much they stood to lose but they should’ve just bit the bullet. Even if they had to delay the game by a couple of months, not sure how much that would've fucked up their seasonal schedule though
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>>540238186
gosh I love this cutie like you wouldn't believe
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>>540238165
>they're not going to like a robot martial artist over him since the aesthetic isn't even going to be the same
I've checked you-know-what and they're all ready to bounce to the new character. We'll see how it goes.
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>>540237294
Eous with inkie on his head
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>>540237517
>The fall guys stages also have a lot of potential
They have exactly 0 potential for story telling
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>>540238323
>I've checked you-know-what
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>>540237373
Because ZZZ wasn't advertised as
>the game you go to to jerk off
retards on social media gave it that rep
It's the same reason Seed did poorly, you can't advertise one thing and then do another and expect customers to open their wallets.
>BOO HOO WHY CANT I JERK OFF?
go look at porn you genetic failure I can't even call a man. I don't know where you welfare queens get off thinking you can dictate the game's direction, you don't have any money to speak of and you're certainly not working. Just lie down and die if you're gonna cry and bitch about nonsense loser.
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Hello bwos Orphie is about to ruin my life with her stupid gacha.
I really cannot spend any more money bwos
Wish me luck with the 50/50
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>>540235168
Fat cow
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>>540238013
Truth be told, I'm not sure how the sales would look now atm if they kept the tvs, I feel like by 1.4/1.5 people who disliked it so much they already dropped the game. I doubt people quit because tv mode was removed, but the lack of content replacing it is what's getting people. This patch just feels so dead and people are less likely to spend if they're just coming every patch update.

I don't know what the issue is but they just don't seem to have the time to put any effort into anything outside of the story chapters now.
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>>540238070
Wushit loses by default
You can literally do nothing
No update
Nothing at all
And still win
That's how much of a piece of shit that "game" has become
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>>540236958
Unknown will be S rank billy, oaired with zhao since she's alone in her faction so far.
Also one of the idol is bound to be an A rank unless there is a 4th idol to fill their second patch
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>>540238391
as far as i'm concerned zzz was advertised to me as a post apo retro modern action game
it felt like that for a while, but now it feels like all the new features are just dating sim stuff, i don't give a shit about taking pictures or watching movies with my waifu, i didn't sign up for this
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>>540238383
Neither does TV.
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>>540238221
the HSR general is always shitposting and laughing at us so they bring that shit here
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https://youtu.be/vFj2s549LaA?si=J-PG98E2i2gOfsea

Best ZZZ song?

This stupid beautiful game was released just 1 year ago and I already feel terribly nostalgic about it...

The tower one is an easy runner up tho
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>>540238152
Means we won the Legend Race against her.
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>>540238482
Being here means they lost BIGLY
They can't stay in their thread because it's literally fucking dead lmao
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>>540238391
You're malding too much
Take some hrt
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>>540238274
As I recall Hoyo's current strategy is market diversification and building a franchise/game for every genre and type of player. I think ZZZ had a stricter window to slot into their global strategy. It's something that'll only get more stringent as their portfolio grows and they need to cement content drop windows to manage self-toe stepping. The new auto chess game won't be able to delay at all if it needed to overhaul something or would have to delay further than they'd need to.
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>>540238438
Sanbyfags lied to me
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>>540238438
Wait, is this on fucking Defiler???
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I totally predicted what these faggots would do from day one. Get on your knees, bitch.
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>>540238569
very true
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>>540238560
For me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX0wQu5E9fo
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>>540238510
>oaired with zhao since she's alone in her faction so far
Banyu is speculated to be Krampus too
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>>540238554
Don't make me hit you
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>>540238639
This 50 will determine whatever I stay or drop
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>>540238695
Everyone knew Oprhie would buff up Seed, but nobody cares about Seed in the first place
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>>540238158
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Code doko?
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>>540238560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUehOvn_xzE
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>>540238784
Remove your fucking trackers nigger
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>>540238850
What do you mean?
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at this point shouldn't they just stop releasing males? all the fags left already, stop wasting resources on gay shit
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wuwakeks malding...
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Enough about what ZZZ did wrong.
Let's talk about what ZZZ did right.
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Bunny wife!
Happy life!
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>>540238901
>stop wasting resources on gay shit
They probably think that Banyu will be le cool badass martial artist and men will feel ok rolling for him.
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It's time.
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>>540238904
Total wushit death
Also got my orphie wifey
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Shouldnt we get a new stream soon, we kinda finished the content shown in 2.0 trailer and aside from zhao we hare rolled all the characters involved in it. (I think ye are gonna be bosses, both of them)
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>>540235929
No, not really. Orphie works with Evelyn, sure, but in the same way she works with any dps. Orphie is for Sanby + Trigger team really

The devs are retards.
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>>540236608
>>540237226
>By having TVs there at the start and reducing that number further by another massive chunk they severely hindered their growth.
Sure you could say that, but problem isn't that game isn't growing. It's fucking bleeding. There has been two big marketing pushes to bring players back. Each was lower than last one, each bled players quicker and each defined new lows for the game.
Blaming TVs for that after a year of nothing but corridor slop is just insane levels of cope
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>>540238995
people who roll cool males also left, we only have coomers who are scared of men now
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>>540238901
Males are for men and most players are male; you're the minority, girl
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>>540238901
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>Orphie
>Squid Girl
>Rupture Support Girl
>Bnnuy
SURELY the idols are next? I'm sitting on a fortune of polys fighting the urge to roll.
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50/50 won
Nice angle
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>shilling a game you can't even play because you don't have a PC
Pajeet bros....
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>>540238728
Good taste, anon
>>540238847
Excellent taste! Top 5 for me easily.

I feel like the 1.0 had such bangers already, true nostalgia baits.
https://youtu.be/U8pC5WQLCBk?si=5xTF6940XWo8KI7i
Really like this one too
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>>540239105
Idols are gonna be like Astra, post act boss happy filler content
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Do I roll Orphie if Soldier is my only S rank Fire DPS? I have Trigger.
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>>540239128
12 year olds look like THIS?
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>>540239097
Seed didn't flop.

The game is bleeding players BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO FUCKING DO IN IT
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>>540239093
>twinkified face and a BBL
>for men
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>>540239097
Based CHADgo Blyat
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>>540238901
>all the fags left already
Yet your sobbing crybaby ass is still here, curious!
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Evelyn killed millions...
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>roll 20 on wengine banner for Lucy wengine dupes
>this happens
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
I wasted my luck on a safe skip wengine.
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>>540235885
Hello Romania ritual poster!!!! What is the new secret manga u r reading??? Also go pay attention to work!!!
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>>540239074
No, that's exactly why it's incredibly bad to lose an abnormally large chunk of your playerbase at the start. It's called forward momentum. Instead of bringing people into the fold who would bring even more those players stopped playing and at best don't talk about it with anyone or at worst tell their social groups that it was in some way unsatisfactory. Most who get burned once won't try it again.
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>>540239348
Kek
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>>540239348
>safe skip wengine
Whose engine does Orphie use?
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>>540239262
>such a faggot he was eyeing Hugo's ass
so when's the coming out party homo
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>>540239392
Gilded blossom which is collecting dust since I got it.
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>>540239228
2.2 is filler, 2.3 will have content. Trust the plan
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OMFG I FUCKED UP my game broke while I was pulling and relogged and accidentally pulled Orphie instead of Evelyn!! WTF I’M HAVING A MENTAL BREAKDOWN
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>>540239413
>it doesn't count if I ignore blatand homo/troon/fujo pandering
KWAB
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Just tried out Anton + Astra spam in LV with power adaption to 60.
It's so stupid but actually kinda fun. I think I will actually level him and keep doing it.
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>>540239413
yeah you don't sound upset at all
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>>540239053
very true
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>>540239215
Especially is S11 is you only fire attacker yes.
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>>540238438
>pairing electric + fire
No thanks, I'll stick to Seed+Sanby.
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>>540239574
How's life back in 1.X?
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>>540239354
People literally came back for 1.4 and 2.0. What they got was just not good enough for them to stay. Game also doesn't have niche appeal to grow on it's own.
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>>540239128
thighs bro we win bigly
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>>540238916
>1.0 - 1.2 character designs were peak
>redesigned bangboo from mandatory massive stat sticks to goofy little guys that didn't really matter for performance enabling you to truly use whatever
>adding more combat content to use your characters in
>decreasing the absolutely retarded initial requirements to complete weeklies
>abandoning the Defender class
>adding the movie theater date event
>upgrading old characters with the potential system
>ensuring practically anyone with hands can get 14K in DA by giving you 5000 points (over a third) of them for free
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I only log in to ZZZ every day out of habit. Once another game I like comes out zzz will be once a week, then once a patch then uninstall.
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Does orphie benefits fom unit buffs when shes off field? Like lucies or astras
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>540239680
not gonna read that fags
lol
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>>540239735
Yeah, that's why she's good with Astra/Trigger/Fufu/etc
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>>540238826
>>540238986
>>540239596
saggier
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How's my Evelyn looking now that I got her sig?
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How important is Evelyn's cinema or engine if I don't plan on ever rolling for Lighter, for an Astra/Eve team?
t. newbab
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I made a mistake of not rolling for Shifu
I regret it...BIGLY
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>salesfags dont understand that all the money goes into the same bank account in the end
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>>540240152
Very. Evelyn doesn't even have a good disk drive set.
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>>540240228
I see, so what should I aim bare minimum for Evelyn then?
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>>540240201
Shifu is horrible to build anyway, hp% crits is cancerous to roll
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NNNNNGH!
MMMMPPPHHRHRHR!

I'm.... about to....
ROOOOOOOOL!
AAAAAAAAA!
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>>540240152
>not rolling two of the best supports in the game
Very important then. Just having one of them makes her work really well, but none of them means you're going to struggle unless she's M4 or something.
I don't even know who you'd use on her team.
>>540240228
You could give her inferno metal and run her with bomb boo with 2 pc woodpecker to hit her cruit rate threshhold.
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My Orphie looks kinda weird here.
I will kill myself but let me uninstall first
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>>540239642
If they can "just" find a type of content to go alongside the combat the game will at least have a chance if a new character hits the media algorithm right. The combat is the only thing going for this game atm and it's just not enough.
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I rolled for both Astra and Evelyn because they're friends :)
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Quickly getting my Orphie in EU. Had everything ready so I just had to level up skills etc, and equip the stuff.

Funny stat spread. You'd not think she actually overcaps c-rate by one sub once she has 3 stacks of the set.
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Yeah its over for this game, everyone is making fun of us >>540239604
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zzz's first mistake was pandering to women and fags
zzz's second mistake was rugpulling them
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>>540240307
I'd go with just her and her weapon to start. Then find out if you actually like playing her and learning her chain attack abuse. I would not get any mindscapes if you aren't going for M2.
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>>540239930
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>>540240201
>he resisted Shifu's feminine charm
Both impressive and highly concerning. .
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>>540240468
What do you call this mental illness when you pretend to speak for a group and then trash it because you're both a failure with no social links and also have a superiority complex despite being objectively inferior than everyone you meet?
Actually never mind, I don't care lol.
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>>540240335
>>540240384

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>540240152
Who are you even planning to roll, or pair with her?
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Orphie cute
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>>540240678
meds
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>>540240698
>>540240384
Nyaa the shining golden kot
HER GAME
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I don't eat pussy but for Eve.
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>>540240597
>reference:weak point
>Art: Fierce point
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>got spooked by S11
>rage pull-skip 60 more, running out of chromes
>this happens

I think this makes up for it, right?
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>>540240201
The only character I spent money on this game is Shifu
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should I roll for seed?
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>>540240307
Imho you only need m1 and m1 astra so you could do astra/eve ult with every rotation but that's another layer of mastering your rotation. Otherwise m0w1 is enough if you aren't making eve your main.
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>>540240897
If you like Sr and like the playstyle, yes.
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I fuckin love pits and tits
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Weird how Orphie's sig doesn't buff team damage in any way. Seems like a bad option compared to her mindscapes, especially when I already have Eve's sig to give to her.
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>>540239996
She needs some attack bro
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>>540238563
I love collecting smelly shoes
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Yeah Orphie feels great with Sanby.
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>>540241059
Evelyn is pure sex.

Is the BP attack ball better than Brimstone for Orpheus?
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>>540241134
for any other support I would say so, but her personal damage is great so she is actually providing huge benefits by having her own damage buffed. Also it's the only way to get her full support buff.
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>banner ends
>they go up in tiers

OH NO NO NO DON'T TELL ME YOU DIDN'T ROLL FOR SEEGOD
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So why didn't they put the SEED training event along with SEED banner?
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>>540241059
I love blonde white women, that meta refuses to be powercrept.
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>>540241328
I SKIPPED AAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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should I roll orphie or evelyn guys
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>>540240335
>>540240698

Okay I'm absolutely fucked after going double Max Pity.
I guess I deserved it after getting Sneed and her Wengine in 40 total pulls.

How much worse is her second best Wengine option? IWTLG is a salty faggot and doesn't make any m----

>First 10 pull before hitting Post

FUCK this feels so good after a double MAX PITY, M4 Nekomata roll...

60NCIDW
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>>540239719
>I only log in to ZZZ every day out of habit.
Me but for HSR, I only care about the girls, I don't know shit about the story other than March is le mysterious.
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>>540241420
Orphelyn
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>>540241332
Because Seed was moved to first banner position at the last minute.
That's why the Seed agent story was released at the same time as main story and why we got nothing now.
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>>540235168
smol head
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>>540241328
It's over, devs decided to fuck us up when seed banner ended... Eos soon bwos
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>>540239996
Need more attack.
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>>540240865
Sure, give me some of that luck. None of my hard pity pulls are ever this good.
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>>540241420
If you have Lighter and Astra then Evelyn.
If you have Trigger and Seed or Sanby then Orphie.
Otherwise skip.
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>>540241448
>still flopped
How badly are they kicking themselves in the balls rn?
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>>540235885
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time passes so fucking slow when you're waging I'm new to this 2weeks and I wanna kms
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>>540241571
She only made millions. They'll recover.
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I still like ZZZ because it's dailies are like ten minutes at best. Many are doomfagging, but honestly, chinawank area is always the lowest point of any Hoyo game.
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>>540241571
I hope Dawei cracked some heads.
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>>540241650
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>>540241650
Me on the right except I'm white
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>>540241650
What the fuck, why am I black?
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Some people say the new Lucia design is fake.
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Orphie's sales?
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My wife and i.
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>>540241571
I'm expect a naked dogeza at 2.3 dev talk
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>>540241759
Me on the right but pale
+ a few extra pounds and a beerbelly but those sluts love it
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Orphie likes me. Won 50/50 and 75/25. I still have 300 rolls left for Zhao and Idols and my Sanby team is complete. Sanby, Trigger and Orphie all with their Wengines and M0.
Imagine rolling for Seed
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>>540241650
>file no longer exists
The sex was cut out of the image. It’s a perfectly fine blue board image. I fucking hate jannies.
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>>540241857
Already beat Hugo.
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Is Belle a filthy Fujo?
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>>540241923
That's a very low bar
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>>540238448
WuWa is suffering from the exact same problem. A bit of front loaded content then empty soulless 20 second to do "events". Moving character stories trying to make them part of main story, lack of combat events, lack of quests. Oddly both games mirror each other in content output both being so little or shitting out easy stuff you're done with in a few minutes.
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>>540241918
It's blacked shit so it's based that it got removed dgaf
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>>540241630
It's good that we're going through the CCP-mandated area so early. That means we can look forward to the good stuff like Throne Quarter or the Moon.
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What's Lucia'sn new design.
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>>540241991
Asians draw the guy as brown or grey to make him look like a npc. It’s not an actual nigger.
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>>540242056
boobs got bigger, ears got smaller
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SHIFU LOVE
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>>540240384
>he thought kot was a meme
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>>540241847
But why?
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>>540242056
Aside from Yixuans shorts, they also bolted Yixuans tits on her. In my non-pedotranny opinion, it’s an upgrade.
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>>540241979
Wuwa at least splits the main quest into both banners.
The second half of this patch is a wasteland.
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Wow, S11/Orphie is absolutely terrible. Literally Lucy-tier.
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>>540242282
>literally god-tier
OH SHIT for real?
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My wife's husband.
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>>540238438
What s11 levels are used for these? While lost people only get m0 for banners, most people s11 will be m2+ by now.
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>>540241870
Only if she's in
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>>540242392
>carrying the entire 2.2 alone
Based lesbian
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>>540242282
But you basically double dip if you use lucy on them
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Is this ok without Sig? My crit is .4% short of capping
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>>540238438
>33535
>3/5
Wtf?
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So now we back to blaming the game having TVs in the beginning for horrible performance 1 year after TVs the big evil got removed.
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Flops-no flops really only happens because people either stock polies for their favorite or are dru after they rolled and need money to continue. If anything 0 sales means popular. The idols will be 0 sales. Zao will be 0 sales.
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>>540242537
No stunner is literally not an option for S11.
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>>540242056
Looks like a parody of everything wrong with Hoyoslop design neutering everything cool about a character
Horns got smaller, ears got so short they're barely noticeable behind the hair, the bottom-heavy wide hips / small tits with underboob window bodytype got replaced with a Shifu copy-pasted big boobs + cleavage chest and narrower hips
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>>540242392
Evelyn is the most gorgeous ZZZ
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I look like this irl.
It's an E-cup if you must know...
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>>540242556
Would help if I attached this
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>>540241979
Wuwa is an open world game right? Even if someone finished the story, they still have stuff they can explore. ZZZ doesn't quite have anything similar being a more pure action game. Bangboo platforming could be something to go alongside it, but I have a feeling it takes too much time for how quickly people go through it.
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>>540242667
she looks even stupider and more boring than she used to
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>>540242629
Is this the latest cope for why Seed flopped? She was too popular?
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>>540242658
Would pull if it wast for the dyke bait
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Which country should 3.0 go to?
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>>540242681
How is 40% crit caped?
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>>540237916
we need like 20 more yixuan clones
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>4 hours until I can let Orphie suffocate me with her junk food powered thighs
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>>540242762
India
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is it too late toroll for seed?
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>>540238438
>Old da boss
Disingenuous fuck, and fucking ucc is the easiest boss next to typhon
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>>540242762
Medieval France/Germany.
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>>540242568
Not replacing TVs with ANYTHING is TV's fault.
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>>540242762
Not-Russia
Nod Krai is sovl and saved Genshin for me

>>540242821
Not if you're a burger, yes if you're a yuropoor or a pagpag
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>>540242762
After cultivating our chi we need to open our shakra in new erideli' temple. The mapple leafs are beautiful this season sir.
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>>540242779
No idea, but probably sig + shadow harmony
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>>540242501
I would so have plenty of fun with her
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>>540242762
Europe. Throne quarter. Then NotJapan
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>>540242762
They're taking you to Brazil.
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>weekly has bizare brigade forced game
I forgot this game existed lol
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>>540242762
Ukraine
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>>540242667
I will now roll Lucia
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>>540242762
Some euro place probably right? Unless they take us to the ghettos...
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>>540243046
Huh, I didn't get an arcade objective in ages.
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Really dumb question but I've been away from the game for a while. Is Trigger an aftershock unit? I might go for Orpheus just to have an aftershock team since I skipped Silver Anby.
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>>540243163
Yes.
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>>540242667
This looks atrocious
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>>540242953
Say that to her face not online and see what happens
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Why do people forget we are in a post apocalyptic setting that takes place in Iraq?
Of course we won't visit places outside of the middle east.
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>>540242762
At the edge of the Dark Wall.
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>>540243249
Shit, we're going to Isreal
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>pull Orphie
>no content to use her
Holy shit the devs are gigaretarded!
At least throw a generic combat event.
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>>540243163
Yeah but Trigger's aftershock doesn't really do damage.
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>>540237771
Its just delusional SNEED fags trying to cope for their waste of poly on such worthless character.
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>>540242762
It shouldn't go anywhere. The genshin style expansion of a new country themed area every year is going to be retarded for zzz
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I hope Orphie beats Lucia up for being a freak of nature
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>>540242762
Sixth street
The not-country expansions are retarded for game that was supposed to be persona-like.
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>>540243249
It's quite literally post-post-apocalyptic though
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it's a fictional world retards
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>>540243557
New Eridu is literally just big fuck off city-state with regions. Besides, we know that we'll go beyond the Dark Wall soon enough
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Bwos... are we legit going to EOS. Orphie is not selling at all
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>>540242762
We are reaching tops, so high tech dystopian towers like hong kong or something
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>>540243659
Yet it uses real world locations and myth terms.
And also has only one moon.
And exterminated the blacks and browns.
Curious.
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>>540242762
Transnistria
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>>540237226
>On launch that lull in the middle of Chapter 3 where you couldn't progress the story any more until your Interknot level got multiple levels higher (like 40 I think) so you had to spend days doing nothing but TV commissions was an absolute kneecapper.
The literal reason this happened is because they had to temporarily stop making actual content because they were busy reworking the entire game to remove TVs because tourists who played for 3 hours didn’t like them

Removing TVs is what killed the game
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>>540243723
Cool, then let's visit some as part of smaller stories. The whole idea of moving to Waifei penisula and moving everything there is just retarded. I hate how they are making new maps while most of the current ones feel dead already.
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Does the new Sanby require Orpheus?
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>>540242762
Ancient Greece, so Belle can finally legally marry Vivian under Sappho's blessing
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>>540242762
Chinawak 2.0, but this time it will be fantasy china. We will go to yunkui summit HQ where we will actually learn to fight and be playable.
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>>540243723
There'll be open worldslop waiting for us behind the dark wall.
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They should've just expanded New Eridu and do shit like Chinatown or whatever
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>>540243723
Oh, Lucia is from some village in the Hollow or some shit right? Maybe we go to a Chinese village!
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>>540243743
What do you mean? She's doing better than Seed.
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>>540243557
This. They should keep expanding the janus quarter
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>>540243573
The society isn't run by blacks so they've recovered and stabilized. There's still multiple death balls right outside living areas that threaten to eat the whole city.

One literally just popped on Belle when she was shopping.
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>>540243803
TV mode was a cheap method that offered creative storytelling.
It also made a great foundation for events.
Its removal didn't kill zzz but it definitively lowered the quality of content which future gacha will exploit.
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>>540243864
It's going to be madmax out there
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Is Sanby fix for this patch or for the spookshack patch?
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>>540243774
>Yet it uses real world locations and myth terms
So do Genshin and HRT
Doesn't mean they're not fictional worlds
Retard
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>>540242667
Man her new design is actually terrible. What the fuck were the chinese thinking that complained
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cope engine for Orphie?
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>>540243854
That's like the worst possible timeline in every sentence.
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>Log in
>4 hours and 41 mnutes left on Seed banner
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I WANT TO ROLL EVELYN ALREADY!
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>>540243723
>there will always be old companions who journey with Phaethon
Who went to Waifu Peninsula with us? Belobog built the temple and people showed up for the summer resort but no one adventured with us or helped us in the hollow investigation despite the proxy having the best hollow investigators on speed dial
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>>540243803
>>540243948
>The literal reason this happened is because they had to temporarily stop making actual content
What in the fuck are you talking about Chatper 3 was launch content. The shit with Victoria Housekeeping. Is this your brain on TV mode?
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>>540244052
Would roll if bigger.
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>>540244009
Event engine for the best event the game ever had. Don't have it? Should've started earlier.
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>>540244009
Gilded Blossom is good on her. Finally someone that wants it
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>>540241529
better now?
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Rolled 80 for Eve
Got S11
Back to saving poly i guess
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>>540244175
>rolled for fire attacker
>got fire attacker
checks out
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>>540244052
Looking cute Eve.
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Going to quit. Should I pump all my poly into Evelyn who I already have just to send MHY a message or save it for when I inevitably come crawling back because I'm doing nothing better with my time?
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>>540244125
>>540244140
it's over...
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>>540243557
Introducing 7th street. Its the redlight district that was literally just next door from us the whole time.
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>Orphie Magnusson
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>>540237226
Thats only half true. The Internot exp was so bad even if you did ALL tv commissions you still could not really advance the chapter. You had to slowly level up doing daily mission.
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I'm gonna start calling my hands Astra and Evelyn and then get freaky at night hehehehe
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>>540236847
I don't know but it's pissing me off. I want to roll her already
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>>540244259
Marcato works too, just use that
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>>540244229
Thanks, handsome
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>>540244289
>son
>its another girl
China we need to talk.
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>>540235168
>No one is rolling for Orphie
>people are rolling for Evelyn

ZZZ players really are soulless and just roll for Meta huh?
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>>540244159
If disc 5 main stat is fire damage or pen, way better. At this point I imagine you're needing almost perfect discs for any further improvement.
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>>540244101
Are you retarded? There was this huge padded out section with no story content because they were busy taking out TV mode
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>>540244245
Save it. Hoyo isn't going to get any message you could send. They only listen to bilibili
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Why is everyone an eve fag now? You were all so confident before when skipping.
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Orphie slow ass banner is killing the game.
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>>540244393
But Evelyn is sovl....
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Orphie is my first coin flip win this calendar year. Do I go for her engine or does she not need it?
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>>540244312
You got to do Hollow Zero tv exploration mode 5 times a week to kill time. When you take that into account it wasn't so bad, right?
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>>540243842
It would be her BIS but Seed or Astra give competitive scores to the Orphie varient
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>>540244289
>vat-growned clone has a family name
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>>540244393
>>540244457
You retards make it so fucking shit complicated.
She makes my dick hard. That's all the fucking reason I need. How is that hard to understand
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>>540244457
I started in 2.0 and was already horny for her, time only made me hornier
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>>540244523
The improvement is like 10% I think.
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soon™
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Think it's time to just skip and wait and see if 2.4 has the new void hunter. Next patch looks like arse and Orphie is a skip
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>>540244393
>Her designated partner is the least liked and least pulled in the game.
I wonder why...
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>>540244457
I didn't get her because I started in Bibian's banner
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>>540244495
> Not even released in NA yet
At least wait a few hours for your shit posting
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>>540244342
that's my Seed cope engine...
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>>540243249
>Why do people forget we are in a post apocalyptic setting
Probably because outside the disaster areas people live like they don't exist.
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sanby doko…
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Suppose this increases to a reasonable score with a better rotation when I learn how to use Orphie properly but so far...Astra is better and cheaper.
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>>540244457
Oh the skip banner was last banner. This is a pull banner.
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>>540244704
Then Steel Cushion > canon rotor > brimstone >street > starlight > housekeeper > drill
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>>540244642
>Her designated partner is the least liked
We like Sanby
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The cheapest shit. I got 3 stars with this team on the first try.
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>>540244724
Thank you for the sacrifice. Cant trust anyone anymore. All the shills make every new release look like its the next Miyabi.
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>>540244704
To be fair, that's mostly because New Eridu's literally built on cope and living life to the fullest
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>>540244704
Nips seemed to recover quite fast after being nuked.
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>Do the wish bottle event
>Goat sex shows up on screen for a minute to bleet
>...
>one week later see that goat sex has gotten a triple XL breast implant and blue cellophane bikini
I'm not complaining but what the fuck, that's canon now. She canonically got implants since I last saw her.
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>>540244804
>Sporos
kek
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>>540244775
>>540244689
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>>540244525
I did hollow zero for fun, I don’t even do the new one every week because it’s boring
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>>540242667
Soooooooooo the only people who hate the new design are turbo faggots and flatfags?
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>>540244804
>Sporos
Now that's just soulless. It's SEED, all caps.
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>>540244893
>flatfags
Yes, fuck you
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What do people think about the story at the moment? I'm really fucking bored of this current plot with with the exaltists.
It just feels mid as fuck honestly
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>>540244875
thanks bro
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>>540244893
did they tilt her ears back?
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>>540244893
I'm gonna say it
She always looked like shit
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>540244893
Brownie browning the thread
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>>540244893
I sincerely despise that i look fondly upon her old design now, the new one has no idea what it wants to be even harder than the old one
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>>540244938
Story has never been Mihoyo's strong point but the writing in 2.x have been fucking trash.
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>>540244959
They cut them in half.
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>>540244893
I love flat/small chest and bottom heavy pearshaped girls, still think the new one is an overal improvement
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>>540244893
Why did they nerf her ears? The new design is fucking awful
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Alright, I'm gonna throw 60 pulls at Evelyn banner
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>>540244938
story has been going downhill since 1.4
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I miss the flatty undeboobs already...
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>>540243948
tv mode itself lowered the quality of the game
no wonder zzz never made more money than star rail at launch despite being high effort in other areas
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>>540244864
>>540244924
Sporos is Seed in Greek, Orpheos is also a Greek name, retards.
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>>540244849
>She canonically got implants since I last saw her.
what a whore.
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>>540244962
No need to hide it, either of the two designs are slop.
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>>540244893
Old design genuinely had some soul with the underboob.
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>>540244938
Story?
Sorry, my skip button is too powerful for AI generated hoyoslop
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>>540244938
Jufufu should cut her hair short, tigers dont have manes.
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>>540245072
>lower case third world faggot shills a phone game
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>>540244893
It has nothing to do with the size of her tits you coombrained retard. The outfit is objectively uglier and it was already pretty ugly.
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>>540244928
My condolences.
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>>540244893
she still has too much clothing on
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>>540245028
I no longer thing the baps are worth it...
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>>540241759
Me on the left
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>>540242762
obviously it's gonna be japan to beg for players, but it's way too late unless they make competent character designs that people want to pull for and not aislop sobstoryslop flop of the month
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>>540244938
it's so shit I struggle not to mash the skip button on every single interaction. I haven't been invested in the story since Jane
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>>540244938
It's so shit that i actually wish the time travel schizos are right
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>>540245134
>The outfit is objectively
Stopped reading there.
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>>540244938
Story is unimitigated disaster.
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>>540244435
You can stop pretending, anon. That was launch content and the intended progression. They didn't make the decision to remove TV mode until they saw their retention rate fall off a cliff and the
>zzz because it puts you to sleep
memes and reviews came rolling in.
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>>540245072
Zzz never made more money than zzz when tv mode was in the game
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?? I thought the zzzigger accusations were just a meme
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I care deeply about corporate politics and evil-for-evil's-sake apocalypse cultists.
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>>540244938
It's funny just how bad the story is in ZZZ right now compared to HSR and Genshin
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slums of india is already confirmed for 3.0
belle is not allowed to go there obviously
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>>540244938
It started well but turned into garbage after they made Wise and Belle able to get inside the hollow
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>>540245069
It's so funny that all the fanart became outdated.
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Orphie is a flop

The day 1 japanese chart is not gonna be pretty
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>>540245337
Evil for evil sake? what are you talking about, their goal is perfectly logical, it makes 100x more sense to adapt to the hollows and live alongside/within them than futile resistance forever
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>>540245280
It was post launch content actually you fucking retard. Those memes and reviews never even got to chapter 2
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>>540245361
Wait we are not going to Japan next?
And don't say 1.0 was Japan after all this weird its Hong Kong shit months ago
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>>540244893
ai shat this out
jeets will eat it up because they love shit
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>>540244893
Its extremely concerning a minor amount of cleavage is making people like this comfortable enough to praise her design. Add onto her Rupture Support abilities and it's a concerning trend. Shes going to sell well and no deserve any of it. Lucia is the future of designs of this game. RIP
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>>540245073
We know. Localizations are still funny.
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>>540245484
>Wait we are not going to Japan next?
No we're going to EoS next
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How much cum do you have stored for her?
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>>540242762
Canada
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>>540244893
I don't get it
Im sure they have a bunch of talented artists but they decide to recycle Xi Yuan pants again for some fucking reason
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>>540245414
Salesniggers really are the most subhuman in these threads. Even lower than the pajeets
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>>540245128
keep coping tv mode nigger
tv mode killed this game and now it doesn't even exist in the newer content
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>>540244893
It's like they wanted her to be even more generic and boring. It's really sad comparing s2 to s1 designs. Only Alice and Yuzuha are good.
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TVsloppers will never stop trying to revise history. They will continue to be contrarian faggots until the game goes EOS where they will have smug little grins and continue to insist the game would have lived if only we kept TV mode.
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I do want orphie ball?
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>>540244938
I wish we didn't have to go through hoyo mandated china region
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>>540245414
Proofs and links?
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>>540245584
SEAfags are at least on the Chinese leash, Indians are an out of control apocalypse
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new lucia redesign just dropped
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Say what you want about Lucia, at least she had an unusual bodytype before
Now she's just Shifu 2.0
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>>540245280
>launch zzz
>retention is pretty good
>several patches go by with good sales
Then they pump the brakes and content release slows to a halt while they rework the entire game around the SoC patches
>biggest drop off of players the game ever had
>have a relaunch with no TVs
>get players back for a moment
>drop off is near immediate
The actual exact moment the game lost momentum is the period where they were reworking the game
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>>540245631
It's miniscule in terms of team damage. Unless you love Orphie just skip it
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>>540245361
>>540245548
>HSR dropped early hints of going to space japan
>sudden diversion takes us to ancient greece instead
>able to vote against the expedition
>always lose the vote
They gotta keep japan for sweeps week, until then you're getting whatever their interns throw together.
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>>540245682
Is it always the worse part of any Hoyo game?
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>>540245469
To confirm: you honestly believe that Chapter 3 with Victoria Housekeeping was not initial launch content? 1.0 stuff? You are unironically retarded instead of pretending?
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>Wake up
>Seed is T0.5
>Panik
>Remember I rolled Seed
Life is good
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Do Evelyn win?
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It legit feels like we might EoS at this rate. The characters don't sell, the story is fucking garbage, theres nothing to do, the new character designs are shit compared to the launch ones etc. It just feels like a C tier game compared to their other big two
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>>540245605
>third world poem format
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>>540245562
Enough to fill up all of New Eridu and push the Dark Wall further back by 10km
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>>540245742
The only vote won that matters was telling Sunday to fuck off
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>>540245624
>They will continue to be contrarian faggots until the game goes EOS
Well good news for you, it won't be long if the game keeps it's current direction.
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>>540245824
HSR has had God awful patches some aslophius started
Only Genshin is just "okay" rn ananta will kill all gacha slop anyways chill
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>>540245484
Europe cause all hints about going to the Throne Quarter
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Will last minute sales allow him to retain his Crown?
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>Neko S rank alt
Yes please
have jerked off before to her in-game model slight camel toe
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>>540245745
Yup. Liyue is the worst region in genshin and the Luoffu was the worst in HSR
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>>540245845
you sure know a lot about the turd world, don't you poojeet?
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>>540245624
>>540245605
Game was making more money back when TV mode was a thing because it at least had a playerbase niche that enjoyed it
Removing it basically turned this playerbase away, but didn't bring back anyone else, resulting in a net loss both in players and revenue
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>lose the 50:50 only on the 6th roll
>get the ball on the 3rd roll

Nice
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>>540245768
Wait you honestly think SoC was on launch? And the POST chapter 3 grind wasn’t POST launch
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>>540245954
and I'm sure that dedicated TV mode player base didn't throw up in their mouth by hour 6 of Arpeggio fault.
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>we cant even beat genshin's 2 week old patch
How do we even recover from this?
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>>540246023
See
>>540245736
AF is literally the example of slop content that was shit out because all resources were put into reworking the game. The exact moment zzz fucked itself was that moment
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Spending money on this game is getting harder and harder.
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You niggers told me Waterkuma still works for hoyo but none of the new characters look like his design
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>>540245073
Yes I get it, but it's no longer acronym nor in all caps.
Her name is not "Seed", it's "SEED".
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>>540245954
>the game was making more money at launch specifically because of TV mode and there were so many people that only played the game for TV mode that the game started failing when they left (which was only because their favorite mode was removed)
This is the level of delusion TVfags live on. Why do you continue to engage with them?
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what could've been
>unique character designs each patch even if they're A rank
>an electric robot, an penguin, a fire tiger
>collabs, maybe one with nintendo, ether squid kids
>fun events instead of tower defense slop and autochess slop
>instead of notchina, we get a something that matches the theme of the game
>arcade has bangboo minigames such as fall boos and boo kart exclusively instead of low quality phone games
>fun activities to do with the agents instead of more dialogue spam
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>>540245892
HSR current story patches have improved a lot and mog the ever living shit out of ZZZ right now. Genshin wise people are saying Nod Krai has been the best x.0 patch in the game so far.
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>>540246114
Why would i play this game instead of the games it is trying to copy half heartedly
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>>540246023
Arpeggio was good idea, but completely undercooked and stretched to hell. Felt almost like a self sabotage just to shut people up about TVmode. They had perfect TVmode event and it was Camelia Golden Week, they never did it again.
>>540246146
Look at the sales data and actually any data like engagment.
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>>540246114
how is japan so far behind that chinese are literally producing anime gta while they're stuck making lame jrpgs with visuals from the 2000s?
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>>540246139
It was never either of those things. People only did the all caps thing because of Gundam and the naming convention made sense for a robot.
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>>540246114
>photo-real art style with cell-shaded anime characters
dissonant presentation. Unless you're making a mixed media project like Who Frame Roger Rabbit, it's important to maintain a cohesive art style. Otherwise it just looks like you slapped custom characters into a UE5 engine store-bought asset module.
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>>540246120
Zhenyu keeps turning his creations into big tittied hags
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>>540246114
Honestly this game looks so much better than ZZZ...
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>>540241134
It’s more like an Astra situation: you can replace her ball with a stat stick, but it’s a nice bonus
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roll for me pls
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>>540246023
Arpeggio fault was not the original TV mode though
It was a rework attempt to make it more dynamic since gachabrain retards like yourself were complaining about the original mode being too slow and complicated
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>>540244893
I though this was a comparison between Shifu and Lucia from the thumbnail.
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>>540244893
Is this a fucking mod? Because now it looks even more like a copy of Yixuan's outfit.
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>>540246146
They left because the game had a several month period where it sucked ass and it sucked ass because the game was too busy reworking the early chapters and the entire game, which the actual players had already finished, instead of making actual content for the players that already existed and were enjoying zzz.

You know, this whole situation is reminiscent of when a first world nation uplifts a third world one with technology, money, and education. Then they leave, everything goes to shit, and the third worlders still blame the first world nation even though ages have passed.

You’ve had TV less ZZZ for about a year, and guess what not a single patch ever retained as much players as TV ZZZ. Not only that, but the most disastrous period of the game, during the SoC content, was when they were reworking it.
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>>540245973
>SoC
Retarded bro...
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>>540246245
You should educate yourself on the idea of spurious relationships
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>>540246264
>>540246114
It's actually fucking sad how far behind Japan is now in the gacha space. China is the current leader by a mile and even Korea has overtaken them.
Japan used to be the kings in this space and now they feel like they are 10 years behind everyone else
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>>540246264
The Japanese boomers would rather commit seppuko than try new ideas
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>>540246357
I'm skipping Orphie for you
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>>540246357
You make a convincing argument...
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>>540246146
Im not really sure TVfags are the ones having delusions. While ZZZ with TV was not a smash hit as genshin or star rail it atleast performed at the same level as something like love and deep space during this time. And now zzz reached legit EoS levels of performance.
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Orphie's cute, I really like her and Magus's dynamic
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>>540246357
I'm skipping, will simply use the Panda for rupture until you get a good looking outfit.
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japan knows they have cultivated a strong cultist fanbase among the childless mantoddlers
they don't have to try innovating
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>>540246061
We don't. We're all quitting this game and moving to Ananta once that comes out.
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>>540246216
Hsr just had the phainon patch wich is basically pic related
Hislens had a great patch tho, haven't read the new one
As for story quality Isolde brutally moga every bad guy in hsr aswell
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Why do I even still play this slop? This patch is garbage and next patch looks even worse.
Can some interesting shit please just be leaked already. When is the next relaunch of the game?
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>>540246414
>You know, this whole situation is reminiscent of when a first world nation uplifts a third world one with technology, money, and education. Then they leave, everything goes to shit, and the third worlders still blame the first world nation even though ages have passed.
Holy fucked trvke. They even both had TVs, and now they have nothing.
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>>540246357
BIGGER
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>>540246061
I'm afraid that for once you've been outgooned on this one.
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>>540238510
They ran Lighter in Section 6 patch
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>>540246415
Damn Nico is so cute. Why we don't get characters like her anymore?
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>>540246548
>When is the next relaunch of the game?
When the next meta-defining Void Hunter aka ZHAO is released
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fuck this I'm sleeping.
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>>540246146
It's wild. Ellen is to this day the best selling banner. People were incredibly eager and willing to try the new Hoyo game on the block but after a few patches of TV content they dipped. Anyone who tries to spin a different narrative about what happened is lying through their teeth or retarded.
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>>540245948
How does it feel being worse than India and always losing to them paki?
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>>540246276
Honestly you might be right...
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>>540246661
Somebody's going to wake up with a sticky mess on their belly
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>>540246431
>Korea
lol. Korea only releases the sloppiest slop marketed towards coomers, their entire game industry is nothing but a joke. Most of what the japs release are shit but they still have some good gacha, unlike Koreans.
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>>540246114
I haven't spent on this game since 1.7 and I regret spending on this in the first place. But man it's funny to me how excited people are getting over that "gameplay trailer".
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they should've at least made cute girls like nicole instead of ellen, poo yuan, chinky, caesar, and whatever other forgettable slop they released since then
nicole is one of the most memorable characters in the game along with anby and billy, the game was supposed to be slice-of-life with some shady underground thingy, but turned into visual novel with sad backstory crap
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>>540246701
>There are unironical indians in /zzz/ right now
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>>540246661
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>tell your audience that idols are coming soon
>aren't going to be out for a year
Why would they do this to us
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>Just realized IWTL gave up on making guides for ZZZ after Alice
GRIM.
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>>540246701
>literal indian hoyo shill
lol
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>>540246548
Gachas are all about building a daily habit.
Good luck letting it go.
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>>540246523
Pokemon Company is the only one that doesn't innovate, it doesn't have to and I guess the poketoddlers would get mad if the new game wasn't still exactly the same as Pkmn Red
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>>540246867
Who can blame him. Maybe he'll come back for a Zhao guide.
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>>540246624
She's FUCKING ridiculous
In genshit of all fucking places
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>>540246836
>thought that all the banners in 2.0 would be highly loved so the gap wouldn't seem that big
>actually they're all flopping so everyone is losing patience waiting for them
Unfortunate.
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>>540246694
>but after a few patches of TV content
Literally 1 patch had TV mode as part of main story. One
You are completely delusional trying to blame one patch from over a year ago for complete slop and disaster we have now
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>>540246867
>ZZZ has one decent quality guide specialist
>he moves to Genshin 6.0
it's over, Prydwen is going to drop us any time now...
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>>540246782
Personally i always felt like Anby and Billy were chained to shit(Nicole), they could thrive outside of the cunning hares easily, Nicole breathes and dies with the cunning hare
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>>540246701
Pakistan and India are the same country and the same kind of human garbage.
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The issue with ZZZ is that the current content is simply not good enough to play for long.
If they had actually focused on making a GOOD roguelite game out of this like they initially planned to, with meaningful upgrades and choices during runs, interesting biomes full of various traps, hazards and a evolving roster of enemies, many would simply play this for the fun of it. Just another run as we say.
But instead they scrapped this entire concept and gave us... Shiyu Defence anad Deadly Assault. Something you play for 10 minutes every week before fucking off. Most will not chase after autistic scores, they will get their 6/9* and move on. And the whole process is simply not fun.
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>>540246921
I've played a lot of Gachas and also dropped a lot of them. If ZZZ can't fix the game I will drop it and just pick up Endfield or NTE or Ananta to try instead. I am already far less interested in it than HSR or Genshin with how the game has been since 2.0.
ZZZ feels like a chore to even play the story right now it's so shit
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>>540246694
Jane Doe is the 3rd best selling banner behind Miyabi and then Ellen at the top. That was with TV. The numbers are all there. The game died with the SoC the patch that removed TV and was 15 minutes long because it was all Black screen white text with combat sections that had you fight 3 enemies in a circle 2-4 times before the level was over. And all the side missions got turned into 30 combat slop missions.
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Dropped form BP and monthly.
Will give it 2 more months before I definitely drop this kusoge since better gacha will release in that timeline.
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>>540246381
>Webm
Kek
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Noticed how they always use 'relaunch' 'sales' and mention upcoming gachas. It's like they aren't trying to hide their concern shilling
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Orphie sucks arse when it comes to necessary cost. Again and again and again and again and again Nicole proves to be the ultimate GOAT of GOATs in this game, there is nothing she can't do. She's fucking free too.
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>>540246867
Can you blame him? This game is bleeding players
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How do we stop the Nicole menace?
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>>540247121
Bwo, the goat will be released in next path...
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>pulled orphie and her weapon
>only 40 rolls left
>yidhari and lucia look meh but lucia is rupture support so kinda must pull

Eh... Might drop the game ngl..
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>Still synched to HSR for another patch meaning 2.3 will also flop on mobile
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>>540246694
Why are you pretending the game post tv removal was at the same state it was when it had TV and Jane came out? Or QY?
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India = Pakistan = Poo
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>>540247157
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>>540247120
>have you noticed how they always mention observable reality when they doompost?
>it's like they aren't trying to hide they have above two digit iq
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Ah, it's never a new banner day without a retarded discussion about sales
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>>540246114
I will keep zzz on hold
Meanwhile
>Wushit status
Dropped
If zzz Innovates I will keep playing since I got lucky and pulled orphie otherwise tough luck
There's DNA coming in October and next year silver palace if we're lucky and ananta ofc
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>>540247121
For some reason they seem adamant in making every non pure support supportive agents suck ass. The only exception in this game is Lighter.
I honestly CANNOT fucking wait for another attacker focused support to release so every team go Astra/New Support/Attack and they find themsleves forced to go back to buff all stunners, defenders and Orphie to proper level.
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>>540247157
Why should we?
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lol everyone is on full doomposting mode
seed fucking killed this game
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If god is real and loves us why did he make Indians?
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>>540247121
>muh Nicole is still GOAT
>hey guize why can't I clear new DA, I didn't roll any meta characters, must be pressing buttons wrong
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S Rank Nicole is going to be peak bros!!
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>>540246925
Every time the game changes you send literal death threats.
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>>540247036
>>540247062
I want to point out the game has a lot less style too post TV removal. Think of early ZZZ. People loved the pre-combat full animation. Nowadays you barely see it.

It’s not just the animation, it made the music hit. The game never had more style than chapter 2 when THAT song came on as you cut to your agent “ENTER”ing combat.
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>>540245930
She should be wearing this kind of clothes
She's 1000 times more hot than her homeless junky pleb clothes
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>>540247350
True i did ask for harder content on every single one of my surveys since 1.0, i'm not crying tho, mongolian CCs and jeets are hahahahahaha.
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THEY'RE UP
just in time
https://exhentai.org/g/3550956/c7ac7c4246/
https://exhentai.org/g/3551228/b1db1534a6/
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it's arms day bros time to get massive so I can preacher curl Fufu
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>>540247319
Damn i wanna lick these boots
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>>540247426
Weird reply that is entirely unrelated to the post.
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>>540245930
Thats just a censored yuroichi
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i don't understand why we're getting literally whos instead of characters players actually vibe with. Isolde would have been a slam dunk W
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So close
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>>540245785
I rolled her too
She's good
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>>540247439
S rank Nicole is going to be goth
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>>540247439
They will find a way to ruin her the same way the did Anby
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>>540247561
This but the idols.
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>>540246357
Sold!
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Surelly we will learn why fairy was inside a box at the start of the story right?
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How long till they panic add Mei to the game?
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>>540247726
Who?
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>>540244804
Kek
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>>540246357
Yes.
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>>540247671
???
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>>540247514
>redhead male
>black pubes
don't tell me he dyes his hair ginger, no man would ever do that.
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>>540247439
SNicole is nocole that drops her 2 tons wallet cannon and use a regular rifle instead becomîg really fast
> electric attacker
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>>540247561
>Isolde dead
>Ye will probably get refined
>Manato A-rank, already powercrept (but at least he's alive for now)
Grim
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>>540247726
We already have folded 1 trillion times Katana woman, However would roll because Yamato nadeshiko sexo
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Imagine the smell
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>>540247671
who?
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>>540247726
Dawei would never let raiden mei flop so never
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>>540247561
Spookshack is basically going to stay around and do the whole underground investigations business for us while we are feasting with billionaires and banging astra. No the cunning hares couldnt do that ok.
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>>540247671
>fairy
who???
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Is PEN disc 5 better now than %dmg? For Evelyn
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>>540247976
yes but only if you're black
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>>540247892
Does S11 smell like Anby? Or do the clones each have there own unique smell?
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Instead of arguing about tv mode every day, /zzz/ should put their collective brainpower together and come up with a new game mode that fills the hole tv mode left and ZZZ has struggled to fill since (narrative device, exploration, intros and wipeouts). And then send it to mihoyo every day until it's in.

It can NOT just be tv mode again because it has to be new enough to potentially bring people back (even though few people are willing to pick up or return to a gacha the older it gets).
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>>540247892
Fire fellatio
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>>540247671
the AIs (if the other 3 will ever be mentioned again) will be part of Carole Arna's plan to save the world or some dumb shit like that
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>>540248029
Blobber, just make it Etrian Odyssey with map drawing. Make combat with random enemies turn based without loading screens and boss fights full on 3D spectacle
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>>540247976
Always was. Evelyn comp has tons of Dmg%
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>>540248029
TVlets built their own shithole they can “fix” it themselves
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>Ju Fufu
>Seed
>Orphie

Now I want Qingyi, when do you think her rererun will be?
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>>540248027
I imagine that due to difference in diet, Anby's skin is more oily, more pudgy in a few places, a bit more of a braphog due to her diet of burgers and only burgers. Meanwhile S11 smells like a walking curry stand.
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>>540248029
>come up with a new game mode that fills the hole tv mode left and ZZZ has struggled to fill since
That would be TV mode. Use it as a minigame or something, just like they're using that fun ether puzzle or garbage marcel maze.
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>>540248073
FLOP
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>>540248154
>Blobber
Stopped reading there. I'm sold. That wizardry gacha game was really neat but didn't quite scratch the itch.
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>>540236810
>yfw Elysia expy agent will probably have all the other characters in mechanic in one combo
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>>540246120
Only Fufu and Shifu and idols are confirmed Mizubear creations
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>>540248254
You have one last chance to retract your curry comment, do not compare Noodles to that pajeet shit
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>2025
>still no bangboo support characters that tays off field while the bangboo becomes part of the playable trio
Why do they hate fun?
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>>540248371
Curry isn't pajeet
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>>540248073
>62 in china
KEEEEK
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>>540246867
Because the new characters are a SNORE, even Ashikai, the only one who defended and made lore videos on ZZZ, quit making shit about us. Our dev team had the perfect aesthetic and setting and threw it all away
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>>540248029
You think the Dev's will listen after doing so in the past for basically anything people asked for?
Remember A Rank Lighter getting turned into S rank? Remember when people cried about combat being to easy? They did everything people wanted and now the game is going into the gacha abyss.They will never listen to the playerbase again. And don't believe SSAnby buffs have anything to do with listening, shes getting buffed for her rerun and making people roll current banners.
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>>540248463
>denial
get a mirror
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i hate farming for perfect disc drive holy shit
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Well? What's Magus forcing Orphie to watch?
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>>540248382
Only reserve for Kami North and Eous soon TM
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>>540248523
>Remember A Rank Lighter getting turned into S rank
And Cunning Hares Pulchra... And I guess abilities having placeholder texts.
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>>540248581
We all do. But we still return to the mines everytime. Interesting isnt it?
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Eve good with Fufu? Might have to roll her to finally have a use for my W1 Fufu...
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>Sir reports are coming in no one likes Lucia still! What do we do?
>Add more ass cleavage. She needs to be more curvy.
>They still don't care! Maybe we should change her clothes and make her look less generic?
>Wrong! Remove her only defining feature (her elf ears) and take her tits out. I need to jerk off.
Bravo Hoyo well played again. Every patch gets better and better!
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I'm just dropping in to say you stupid niggers were wrong again while whining about Seed. That's all, have a nice day being miserable in this thread that's somehow worse than the average Hoyolabs poster at actually playing the game.
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>>540248746
Where the fuck is Kuma???
GET HIM BACK
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>>540245389
They usually don't become outdated like this. Once drip marketing appears the design is pretty much finalized and artists get to draw fanarts publicly. I don't think Mihoyo have ever retconned a drip marketing design this drastically.
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>>540246264
>how is japan so far behind
They got buttfucked by the americans in the late 80's through economics jewjitsu, ever heard of the lost decade? It was an artificially engineered bubble which destroyed their economy, which was basically ran like a war economy during its best post war years, and it ran so good that the US sent economic assassins to kill it. It broke their society for a decade and a lot of the people who grew up during that time have zero desire, it's a zero desire society now. Look up "The princes of the yen" documentary. It's also a book. China doesn't have that issue because China has a yuge army and a sovereign ruling party, even though it is communist, what counts is that they don't answer to Washington nor the City of London.
>>540246357
You don't have to be so convincing.
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>>540248747
So you telling me a 1 year old Anomaly hag called Yanagi is basically as good as Seed? Good thing i skipped then.
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Meebs/Eve/Astra not a particularly good team? I couldn't snag nagi so this is where we are...
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>>540248585
Procreation tutorial videos.
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>>540248746
Lucia Skins.... where
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>>540248747
Wrong in what way
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>>540248859
No. Eve doesn't do anything for Miyabi.
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When will other factions catch up with the Gods of Calydon.
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>>540248687
She will always be my Trigger cope option
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You idiots really think bringing back TV mode will help? It will just further cement this game as a disaster.
They need to relaunch the game with something different again that is actually fun. They also need to fix the story to not by china slop garbage
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What is /zzz/'s consensus about Lucia's new changes?
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>>540248687
she's in my shifu team
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>>540246264
>while they're stuck making lame jrpgs with visuals from the 2000s?
There’s a saying that Japan has been stuck in the 2000s since the 80s
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>>540248954
Obol has already them beat in terms of being massive flops who killed the game.
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New Void Hunter will save the game
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>>540249034
Chinawank area is mandated
Can't be helped
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>>540249036
I didn't like her before, but now she just sucks
She at least had unusual build before, now she's just Shifu with different color scheme
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>>540249036
She went from a shit design to a trash design. I dunno how they managed to fuck up this badly
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>>540248868
...what's Magus's endgame here?
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So they can rework character designs but retards still believe the story didn't get rewritten. Okay.
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>>540249034
Who are you talking to? No one said they should bring TV back. They simply pointed out the fact you replaced TV with corridor slop and the game never recovered.
>relaunch the game
They tried that twice and both times it did worse than ZZZ with TVs. It turns out replacing an original idea and fusion of genres that the game was designed around isn’t the easiest endeavor
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well i made it
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>>540249034
They could easily bring back small TV events with little complaint at this point. We've all had a decompress from Mystery of Applegate fault.
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>>540249036
If they had only made her boobs bigger it would have been great but she's had her hips reduced and her big pointy elf ears are gone. So it's a general downgrade even though I am a complete oppai gooner.
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>>540248849
>>540245389
Good
That will teach them to release non-sensical genshinslop outfits in an urban setting
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why cant i get lucky just fucking once. the lighter at 8 pulls is actually 160 pulls from when i quit long ago.
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>>540249195
They really had to remove the TV mode though. Holy fuck it was tedious and more people would have quit than right now if it was still the main play.

The game needs something else as it's currently without a soul
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>>540249179
>Comparing all the work that goes into making the story no matter how shit it is VS re-designing a character
Come one anon you're not that dumb
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>>540249036
No underboob so it's objectively worse.
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>>540249306
This game has a worse pull rate than HSR and Genshin due to having fewer, high development cost characters.
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>>540249335
No, they did not, and the patch that they did remove it had the biggest drop in players in the history of the game
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>>540249238
>Applegate fault
This legit might be their biggest fuckup in the entire games history
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>>540249036
She looked trash
She now looks even more trash
I was already skipping, I am still skipping
All in all, nothing has changed
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>>540249292
Anon she's still wearing the genshin slop outfit
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I have these two teams.
M0W1 SAnby/M0W0 Trigger
M0W1 YX/M0W0 Jufufu

Who's more important? Orphie or Lucia?
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>>540246357
revert hips and ears, fix cleavage positioning, make tits bigger and saggier, expose tummy, connect it to her shorts like it’s connected at the top with a metal ring above her belly button, and give more fabric to the coat, make it flowy. coat has to make her look like a exhibitionist on the run, she needs ridiculous low amounts of fabric in her body cus that hinders magic transmission, so she covers it with a coat
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>>540239680
>abandoning the Defender class
>good
Slit your throat
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>>540249335
>it was tedious
A problem that can be fixed. Of course being literally retarded and lacking any and all imagination cannot be fixed, not by Hoyo at least.
TVs got to almost good state right before they were removed entirely.
With the new "I don't want to play the game" consumables for the disabled, they could easily release more Kami-Norths.
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>>540249306
Same, this is another issue with the game. I’m sitting on capturing fucking radiance in genshin, which if you don’t know means you lost the 50/50 3 times in a row, and I don’t really care because some were early

With zzz I lose the 50:50 one time and it’s 160 rolls down the fucking drain. Nothing ever fucking comes early
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>>540249439
It would have naturally bled all of them anyway if they hadn't made sweeping changes. People absolutely hated the mode and you really underestimate just how many issues the game had on release
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Like, they changed everything except the shorts, why even change the ears? It was the cutest part of her design and they just gutted it.
I was going to pull but guess she's a skip now. And with that Yidhari is as well I guess, since I won't have the rupture support.
What a shame.
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>>540249342
Do you seriously think altering dialogues (text) is harder than altering a design? Especially when Zhenyu Li himself has admitted they make last minute changes for everything?
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>>540249441
>60NCIDW
>got stabbed
>global bunny suit HI3 incident
>genshin anniversary qiqi_fallen incident
I mean yeah Arpeggio was pretty grim but it's barely in the top 5 mihoyo fuck ups
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>>540249531
>TVs got to almost good state right before they were removed entirely.
>Literally released the most copy slop event ever that people despised using TV mode
It's like you are trying to reinvent history
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>>540249558
>game wouild bleed players
Game started bleeding players more the moment they removed it though. After big 2.0 marketing push only 2.1 managed to have okish performance while 2.2 is a complete shitshow with 2.3 looking to continue it.
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>>540249558
See
>>540245736
You are objectively incorrect. ZZZ was maintaining players without a huge hemorrhage precisely until they decided go postpone content in favor of reworking the game.
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>>540249036
I will roll her either way.
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>>540249462
Don't care
I was going to skip since the beginning, but now they're forced to panic and fumble around trying to redesign her retarded genshit outfit so at least it became mildly entertaining
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>>540249663
We do not acknowledge the existence of Arpeggio Fault. It doesn't exist.
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>>540249651
People would actually need to play ZZZ for it to make it into the top 5
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>>540242762
i dont care where we go as long as its an urban environment
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Do you guys do literally anything on this thread other than doomposting? Why not just leave?
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They need some sort of award for being able to completely butcher an already not great design, somehow managed to take away the 2 great things about her, the ears and the chest
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>>540249036
She just needs skins. Stop relying on the default, it can't be fixed.
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>>540249768
Alright that's based and completely understandable
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>>540249579
Do you think the VA's are on dial 24/7? That everything else attached to those textboxes can just be fixed up in a matter of weeks and that some things aren't set in stone due to multiple months of work for future patches that is already done and can't be emergency reworked?
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>>540249579
>altering a huge amount of text that needs to be logical no matter how shit it is
>fucking around on blender for few minutes
have you ever tried writing anything? changing plot points take huge amount of time
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Wow, turns out 4chan is NOT a bubble.
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>>540249164
>WISE, YOU MUST CONTINUE THE MAGUS BLOODLINE, I NEED A REAL DAUGHTER NOT A CLONE
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>>540249847
I dont want my account banned for using mods
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>>540249558
>the game would have naturally reached old age and died of natural causes
Correct.

Instead what hoyo dead was blow off their own legs with a shotgun, because the patches that followed the removal of tv were so bad they forced two relaunches
>>540249663
Reinventing history is claiming Zhu and Jane and QY did bad
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>>540249036
>What is /zzz/'s consensus
Personally i don't think it's a great design, before or after but i'm not a homo so i'll roll.
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>>540249741
The game was bleeding players right from 1.0 when it released and most people gave up almost immediately due to TV mode in the story. Releasing this game with tv mode and having everyone immediately quit over it has got to be a fuck up of all time
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>>540249826
what deck does Corin play? frightfur?
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Bros we are making our big sister worry about us... >>540248701
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>>540249663
Camellya summer event was said to be the best implementation of TV and i believe this came out in 1.1 . So yes the other Anon is right with saying TV nearly got into a good state before getting entirely destroyed.
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>>540249847
More so that it's near Halloween
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>>540249893
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>>540249927
>having everyone immediately quit
But that didn’t happen and they had months of strong sales afterwards….until they decided to remove tv to try and appeal to the non-players who quit one months ago hour in
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>>540249920
>forced two relaunches
What's the 2nd
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>>540249893
>Nooooooo all the doomposting are from jeets, pags, and indonesians
>Chinks also doompost the EXACT same things
>Relaunch is also a meme there
>They also salespost
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>540249927
>having everyone immediately quit
Just because your favourite two digit iq streamer did not like it, doesn't meant game was in freefall. It was losing steam but definetly not at a alarming rate. 2.2 on the other hand
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>>540244804
>Orfia

Thas a nice Name

>Sporos

OY VEY
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2.2 will make about as much as 2.1 and all the sales posters will look really fucking stupid as always
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>>540250036
>months of strong sales
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come to greener pastures already
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>>540250036
ellen banner was multiple times above zhu yuan. everyone quit before first patch
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>>540250131
Yes. Months of strong sales.
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>>540250074
Sales posting was invented by Eurofags dick measuring their empires, everyone else merely adopted it for humiliation ritual purposes
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If it's this bad right now imagine how bad 2.3 is going to be with the double skip banners
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>>540249910
It has been done, Captain Magus!
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>>540249893
>a roadside disaster
>star rail suppression
>they're probably preparing the next reborn already
Ok that's kind of funny
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>>540250036
Funny how they all ignore that Jane doe the 4 banner released was the 2nd best selling after Ellen before TV got removed. But its better to ignore that so the narrative of "everyone quit right after 1.0" can stay alive.
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>>540250163
If everyone quit how come Zhu sold well along with qingyi and Jane
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>>540250309
Jane was safe horny coom bait for gacha newfags, nothing to do with TV mode
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>>540249497
Cry about it. Nothing good ever came from the Defender class and now everyone gets a free parry.
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>>540250260
And 2.4 having a male S rank. ZZZ is going to be running on fumes by the time the void hunter comes out
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I'm guessing Ban Yue, the new leaked S-rank male agent, might be connected to Komano. Komano is Koma Inu (lion-dog statue protector of sacred sites) while Ban Yue is said to guard the temple.

He's also leaked to be Fire Rupture
What if Ban Yue is just S-rank Manato?
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>>540250373
>gacha newfags
She released several months after launch, according to you literally everyone quit
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>>540250474
I am more interested about his mechanical nature. Is he a cyborg, or a construct.
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>>540250359
revenue drop after ellen was more than 50%. she sold way more than everyone else
MANDATORY tv mode on the weekly run was insanely retarded. u fags pretend people quit cus of the ghost or mech tv mission when hollowshit was unbearable and i farmed every achievement there
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>>540250163
Ellen made 96mil with double top up. Lets remove that and she made around 43mil which is on paar with all the other releases without the top up until 1.2

Far more funny is how "Not" Void Hunter made less then Jane does with double top up.
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>>540250373
It doesn't matter dude. These people really think
>game does well while tv mode is in it = due to people loving tv mode
and don't even care about all the marketing and good word of mouth the game was getting due to the designs, combat, and animations.
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>>540250480
I'm a different poster, also don't pretend Jane didn't blow up on social media which caused an influx of dick pullers that then quit
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>>540250309
The sale dropped like a rock after the tv announcement, alienating their remaining playerbase. It never recovered afterwards, their gamble simply did not pay off and now they are overworked kek.
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I won't renew my monthly pass
I'm going to contribute into making Orphie's banner crash harder than SEED's
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I feel like I could skip 2 years ahead and the niggers here would still be talking about the TV mode
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>>540249484
> Doesn't show roster to see what cope options you could use for either team
> Doesn't tell us his pull plans
> Doesn't tell us which team he enjoys more in general
Idk man
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>>540249893
>they're probably preparing the next reborn already
>same "the third relaunch will save us!" posting
All of us... we really were ZZZ...
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>>540250590
Of course it’s an ESL pajeet who doesn’t even know what game he’s talking about
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>>540249893
4th reborn will surely be better
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>>540250703
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>>540250632
With TV mode the game prospered, without it, it shit itself

It will be talked about literally forever, the same way Indians still whine about British rule
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The secret level in the arpeggio tv mode where the developers inserted a thank you for playing message was when they actually realized that it was over and there was no way to salvage ZZZ.
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>>540250630
Why are seedfags so bitter
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>>540250603
The game had good word of mouth when tv mode existed, yes. Nice self own.
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>>540250829
This is were they got replaced by new story writers, character designers and world builders for better? or worse
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>>540250603
A lot of them are pajeets using AI and you can catch it based on the way AI hallucinates. ChatGPT is getting prompts to make a narrative out of literally nothing, so yeah, it end up pretty weak.
But in reality, John Mihoyo used targeted feedback and surveys to remove TV mode, so all the chatGPT sloppa will amount to NOTHING.
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>>540250974
Yeah I agree, you can spam chatGPT and pretend everyone quit after launch when launch retained players at a far greater rate than any patch post tv removal
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>>540250117
it won't even with two banners in one mont
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>>540251059
Everything was better in pre Miyabi world. Arguably before Blazewood but it gets a pass.
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damn so i get to use my spare sanby wengine



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