Even in Death a Copeger still serves EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>540171293>Latest News/Updates:Vermintide 2:Feast of Grimnir and patch 6.7.1 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/feast-of-grimnir-double-xp-limited-time-event-out-now/111969Darktide:Bound by Duty - Free Update Out Nowhttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/bound-by-duty-free-update-out-now/112661>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Helldivers 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Payday 3Back4BloodDeep Rock GalacticEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBAJump Space (formerly Jump Ship) - Early Access 19 September 2025Deep Dish Dungeon - TBADaimon Blades - Early Access 3 September 2025Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>non-shill generalwill all the replies mysteriously disappear again
Tanner saved /coopg/
vet can actually play rooty tooty point and shooty, being allowed to get focus stacks and a lot of them means you use weapons you wouldnt normally use because of that extra 15% rending and finesse damage. youre going to see a lot more accatran lasguns
are mods fixed for darktide?
tanner saved darkshite
Can the browncord leave already
Telopots was right about Tranner
Tranner was browncord about /coopg/ing Telopots
>>540302024Put me in the ladies room.
When next update? I'm bored already.
>>540306220end of november
If we find out later this update was outsourced I won't be surprised, holy shit is this low-quality.
>>540306220>>540307816You're not even subtle at this point.
>>540307816you don't like the blue-tinted map that looks just like all the other maps, or that they added a new type of zombie gunner? FatSharkbros... how could we have foreseen this outcome...? our game is only 3 years old! we even added a nigga witta dog as the first Prestige Class!
>>540308558Meds now, schizo>>540308624Another billion to Vermintide 2 while we starve
>>540303654Update the darktide mod loader
Helldivers is on a roll of being stinky so I'm checking out this flavor of Sweden. Trooner is back? I thought he would be in jail by now for shooting some police or politicians.
>>540308970He's Canadian not american. You can tell by his white skin.
EU server after midnight is hell, you're either grouped with retarded slavs or brownskin french
>>540308835Vermintide 2 isn't doing so hot either...
>>540311579Understandable. It's a much older and worse game
>>540307816>low-qualitySo what exactly makes you think it was outsourced then?
Zealot shield can't come fast enough now that plasma niggas exist
>>540313496Do shields even block plasma? Considering they shoot through walls.
>>540313768I tested it on my arbeetus and it workedBarely consumed any stamina so you could block a whole pack of them
>>540312998I mean, this is particularly bad. Every other ranged enemy in the game can't shoot through other enemies, and yet the plasma gunner can. They couldn't even be assed (or didn't have the funds/competence) to bring in the cast to do some new lines, when they did that even for the shitty mortis trial that no one plays and its radio drama no one cares about.
>>540308558You struck a nerve
>>540314539shooting through walls is a fatshark tradition
>So many "pros" struggling because can't cheese with dueling sword anymore and never lever learned to dodge a shotLOL
>>540316202I used dueling sword to get its mastery and then never touched it again, the new enemy is still ass
Geez what a poor bait... try again
>>540308624it was over as soon as they wrote "Yes, you can pet the dog"the people making your game died on the Nautiloid and set the difficulty to Story so that they could romance Shadowheart
>do auric event >clown car of plasma gunners appear with boss.>instantly delete my HP barIm fine with the damage but fuck me they need an actual tell. Playing that with lights out was concerning.
>>540304928sorry my haters are extremely bored and insidious people, and i don't plan on leaving
>balding gay analogyOpinion discarded
begone energy vampire
>>540307816the whole game is very clearly like an eight person dev operation while they try to learn Unreal Engine for their next sloppa>mfw its Lead & Gold 2
>>540317343kek
>>540317343heh
>>540318372>Check official discord>People spend more time talking about content and cosmetics of Helldivers 2 since they're not limited like Darktide
>>540308956markers all in one is brokenit's so over
>>540321747Works on my machine
devil's claw feels a shitload better
>>540311693What's up with this general being retardedly snarky about shit without even reading the post they're replying to? I straight up said you have to be able to solo ten in a row because your teammates are useless - like the entire point is that you have to be good enough as a barrier to aurics. Why even play coop games if you spend the entire time waiting in the wings to condescend to someone at the slightest inconvenience or sign of weakness (real or imagined?)
jannies just put this general out of its misery
>>540321747it got updated though
>Missions keep aborting in the last trimester of the mapThat'll teach me for trying to play Darktide. Thanks Fatshark, you're always looking out for me.
>>540329526My man, you were lashing at your teammates in damnation. I'm sorry I misunderstood you, but you should still stay away from havocs if you struggle in damnation.
>>540331080you will never have true survivor or read a post correctly
>>540329949What error are you getting
Falchion is kinda badI don't understand how people were saying power sword is bad and then swedes release a weaker version and they praise it
>>540334161Yep. My prediction about the "power sword with the heat mechanic" was 100% corrrctThe relic blade is even massively overrated and foreshadowed the shitty-ness of the failchion
Does anyone have any of the old Payday 2 resources?I haven't played this game in years but my buddy is interested in some cheap heistan action and I'm trying to reacquaint myself with it since I basically know nothing of what's going on with it anymore.
>>540334989It's not just power sword with heat mechanic, it also has lower attack speed and no blessings.Power sword isn't exactly known for good blessings but you can at least pick one, and you can attack faster even when triggering activation between combos. It's like they designed it "at full power", than subtracted attack speed from it that they put behind a shitty blessing that activates from perfect blocks
impregnating tanner
>>540335379>Power sword isn't exactly known for good blessingsIt has some of the best blessings, but you just have to dedicate one of them to power cycler
>Payday 3 flopped so bad that the devs are going back to Payday 2 with a new live service sub modelLOL
>>540336474The Infamous Collection seems to have had a price hike too, I swear it wasn't 150 dollarydoos prior, and I even have most DLC sans useless shitty tailor and colour pack garbage.DLC unlockers are quick, easy and supremely encouraged.
Dump stat on the Power Falchion? Mobility? Heat Management?
saw a guy named ainz eat shit from the plasma gunners and ragequitI wonder if that was the real ainz
>>540336474>>540336963Who in their right mind is going to pay for that shit
>>540337043Mobility
>>540336474can't wait to buy a rat pass after darktide fails
>>540338093I can see a market for achievement whores and new-ish returning players who want a bunch of new toys for cheap. I can't see anyone spending for more than a month on this 'subscription' but like all subscriptions it might make a bit more bank from people forgetting to cancel.
>>540338093the point is to create a company culture of unease where nobody openly talks about your company profits by milking mentally ill obsessive people and other SSDI recipients of their food and rent moneyt. former mobile game developer
>>540338728about how your company profits*
>>540311579Kill Floor 3 is in the low hundreds of players. Shouldn't it be having problems with not having enough players at times to be functioning. Vermintide is locally hosted, so that can be left up for however long they feel like it
Is it pronounced "Arbites" or "Arbites"
>>540339523It's clearly pronounced "Arbites"
it's pronounced "dead game"
Plasma gunners were implemented in the worst possible way, which is unfortunately exactly how I predicted they would be. They're literally just shotgunners but even more annoying since they have even more armor and more range. They still spawn in massive packs, clowncar pile out of doors, and overlap their fire to instakill players before they can even react. They didn't even give them any unique voice lines from what I have heard, and the players all just refer to them using existing scab gunner lines. They were implemented like an amateurish reskin mod.
>>540339523it's pronounced "Copaganda"
>>540340263Lower. The. Difficulty.
>>540339023average ping went from 40 to over 160 and the game was not designed to be played with over 50 and it really shows. They also announced they were heavily nerfing the few most popular weapons and doing 10% increases on the weakest of weapons which are so bad, you could double damage on them and only then would you begin to see them as actual choices while not touching any of the problematic enemies or game design mechanics that could easily be resolved. Game is dead as fuck and 100% not coming back, I waited to see how the first big patch went before making a definitive decision but yeah it's definitely dead now because the people in charge genuinely have no idea what's wrong with the game and think it's perfect aside from "Minor" weapon imbalances.
>>540339523arbeetus
>>540335507you can’t get men pregnant
>>540340263Just when you thought FatShark couldn't be any lazier, too.
>>540340263>fatshark didn't assemble all 25 voice actors to record "scab plasma gunner!"throw another four or five paid classes on the pile, I want it to take a whole fucking year for them to get around to recording literally anything
>>540343523>I want it to take a whole fucking year for them to get around to recording literally anythingthen you're in luck, because that's their standard release schedule. LOL
>>540343523Fartshart chose to go the personalities route instead of the fixed characters route knowing that this would be a potential problem if they ever wanted to make significant additions to the game. They should have prepared for this by either pre-recording extra lines, single words that could be remixed into lines, or making sure the actors would be available to record new content as needed. You don't get to use their own poor choices in the past as justification for lazy design.
>>540339523The t is silent, actually
>>540344957You're thinking Arby's
>>540339523Are the people who still pronounce it like "Arbites" after months of being corrected just trolling or genuinely stupid?
>>540345090No you're mispronouncing it.
REDDITUS
Why do people say to take Annoint in Blood with the flamer when it only affects base damage and the base damage of the flamer is insignificant? Is there some spaghetti code jank that causes the damage bonus to also apply to burn stacks?
>>540346302I'd have to test it to verify, but I don't believe "base damage" applies to burn DoT. The flamer's base damage is indeed insignificant, and damage is the dump stat on it for a reason (mobility is also a good dump ofc). If you look at any stat tracking mod, you'll see like 90% of your damage being DoT with it. Unsure if PowerDI is updated yet however.Try using the health bar mod in psykhanium and testing whether the DoT at max stacks is affected by Anoint in Blood. I'd assume it isn't.
>>540346302>>540346608Anoint the Blood does in fact affect the burn damage (as long your flamer is out it counts as ranged damage).
>>540346302>>540346608Base damage does not refer to weapon base damage. It basically just means its additive or some shit. But not always. Which means it really means nothing other than they felt like using the word sometimes.When in doubt refer to the kuli guide
>>540346302>>540346608>>540347271>>540347370>picrel flamer>burn damage after full magdump against crusher>without Anoint in Blood: ticks of 66>with Anoint in Blood: ticks of 80 (standing at about 2 meters)Can confirm that Anoint in Blood works.
>we lowered crusher spawns >actually we didn't xd
>>540347532Huh neat. Now that I finally have the ability to freely move around points on zealot I can actually make use of this. The main thing I wonder now is if it's worth it to spend several points to get Riposte when making a Blazing Piety build, or if it would just be better to invest those points into the subnodes of Blazing Piety and new stuff like Prime Target. I guess that would probably be weapon dependent, since something like the combat knife doesn't benefit as much from further increasing crit chance. I guess it also remains to be seen whether going full buffed Martyrdom is outright better than Blazing Piety in havoc.
>>540348229Blazing Piety gives everyone else 10% crit chance, which psyker and veteran abuse extremely well. I severely doubt that Martyrdom even has a place in havoc. The CDR is also fucking trash, you're better off taking the crit one.
>>540339523long "I" and long "E"
>>540346142He doesn’t say that
you know what this game needs? a giant scorpion boss. nurgle should make a phone call to khorne and ask him to borrow some greater brass scorpions to assault tertium and greater atoma with
I really enjoyted using d-clawsAny tips for that weapon?
>>540348805like the german word "Arbeit"?well that is surely load of my mind, dare I say it sets me free
>>540339523"Arby-tess". The i and e are both short. It's intuitive once you realize it comes from the word Arbitrator. But lots of people say "Arbeetus" or "Arbeetees". But people hate being corrected. I gave up once "Proc" lost its meaning.
>>540350349Aridin feels easier to use since it has a perfectly horizontal light>heavy attack chain for hordes and push stab>heavy>heavy overheads for single target, unlike the Lawbringer with angled light>heavy sweeps and single target light spam.Cranial Grounding and Heatsink are probably your best bet for blessings, since it can't get Rampage unlike the Relic Blade.
>>540353668this is correctit's supposed to be pseudo-latinadeptus arbites say it with me ladsa-depth-us arby-tess
It's arbeetays, you dumb fucks
>>540350349>>540353670But if you mean D-claws then just build Maniac+Flak or Unyielding if you want to parry Chaos Spawns and Daemonhosts to death, Rampage and Shred for damage. Bring at least 1 stamina curio or peril block for psyker.
>She pronounces Arbites like arbights and Custodes like custoads
>>540354513instant divorce
>>540353670The Lawbringer falchion feels like complete doodoo with its stupid anime moveset. It also pisses me off how we didn't get a full range with only two marks, one of which is objectively better. FS needs to shit out more marks for every weapon because it makes no sense how this system is even implemented currently when the most commonly used weapons often only have a single mark or two to choose from.
>>540354513it's cuck-stodeez (nuts)
>>540350334You will have to make do with an Underhive mutated monster in the upcoming DLC where we explore it
>>540356085But the Torrent is already the underhive
Leeched my way back to 40. Still think new havoc is a good bit harder than before, owing to the cooldown reduction changes and plasma gunners being stupid.Getting my own assignment to 40 is probably gonna suck.
>>540356270under the underhive
>new updates being made by the E team at this point>chinamen can't even be bothered to make any new slopmeticsThis game really is dead at this point isn't it?
>>540358270Arbites DLC release proved the game was going to enter into maximum consumer milking mode, recent "content" patch somewhat proves that with the phoned in mortis trial
>>540356270We need to go deeper.
>>540358270we have one more chance in december
>>540353670>>540354084Nah, I meant new power weapon, just it's kind of (supposedly) similar to d-clawThanks gamer
>staff scrier's gaze psyker gets ammo indulgencesThank you Fatshark, very cool
>>540361886i dont understand
>>540339523"Arr bee tes" is the closest to latin, from where the root word comes from. Arbitrate, arbitrator, etc all share the latin root."arr bites" is how most americans pronounce it.To muddle the water even more, Rogue Trader, an officially licensed games workshop product that has a voice director for the voice actors, Solomorne pronounces his own organization as the adeptus "arr bay tees".So we have three very common pronunciations, some of which are found in official games workshop licensed products that had a deliberate choice and lots of people in the room to correct it if it was wrong.This is not the first word that has had multiple pronunciations, and people seem to forget that pronunciations are going to vary by region. Especially in a case like this, where it's a word from another language. A latin-derived language (english, french, spanish, etc) would pronounce this differently than the various non-latin languages would (korean, chinese, etc). At the end of the day, lots of words have different pronunciations and it will usually depend on what geographic region you're from, and anyone that makes a stink about pronouncing things "wrong" is a boring person with nothing better to do.That all being said, one could say that, relatively speaking, "arr bee tes" is the closest to what the people who spoke the original root word would pronounce it.
>>540362139I think it makes more sense to look at Arbitrate and Arbitrator to understand how Arbites is pronounced. We don't say arr bee trator, for instance.
>>540362139>"arr bites" is how most americans pronounce it.As they should. The other ways just sound LAME!
>>540362115You can play Mortis Trials and have the game give you only ammo-related indulgences, without ANY of them having any effect because staves don't use ammo.This shit is possible because it never crossed Fatshark's mind that scrier's gaze is meta for all staves except inferno and you don't need to be a gunpsyker to benefit from it.
>>540362960arr bite makes more sense to the american mind because they bite into hamburgers all the timeand we have to respect their way of life
>>540363006oh lol. I don't play that mode. Are the available indulgences based on the F ability you enter with? did they just assume Scriers is for guns?
>>540362139>an officially licensed games workshop product that has a voice director for the voice actors, Solomorne pronounces his own organization as the adeptus "arr bay tees".My canon > GW's canon. GW is now also saying that lasguns don't fire red beams, they fire yellow bolts. So according to GW, Darktide's lasguns are simply not canon. https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cvvjq1ua/las-canon-how-the-astra-militarums-indomitable-lasgun-works/Both Battlesector and DOW4 seem to use generic yellow bolts instead of laser beams. I wonder what GW is going to ruin next.
Why are all the companies that make these kinds of games Swedish? Legitimate question
>>540363537That's not true, DRG is made by Danes
So helbore is just really fucking good now right? Just tested it a bit and it’s one tapping everything to the head and chunking crushers while using next to no ammo
>>540363537all 2 coop game companies? It's a mystery
>>540363460>any future 40k Imperial Guard Star Wars Battlefront-like game is going to feature games workshops gay yellow bolt lasguns instead of red laser kino
I am once again complaining about the lack of hair options
>>540363807it was always like that
Does the constant sliding ruin Darktide for anybody else? Every few months I'll get back in to see what is new but never stick around for more than 20 hours or so because the sliding just gets to me, I don't like the way it feels or looks. From everything I've read they never intended it to be so useful or necessary but just leaned into it because to remove it early on would have been unpopular with those who utilized it. Without it the entire game would be easier to balance but its way too late now.
>>540365469I don't mind it. Have you tried playing builds that don't require sliding?
>>540363110You should try it some time mohammed, just one bite probably won't send you to whatever islamic hell you believe in.
A ROUND OF THE WURST BEERS YOU HAVE ON TAP, LLOYD! HAHAHAHA
>>540365712hey man i was being nice
>>540365868Sorry man that was mean. Hope you feel better.
>>540365171Na you needed to go all in on a shit build to reach good breakpoints with it, now you get them for just picking up decent nodes.
>the absolute state of havoc 40>shriek psyker dealing more damage than everyone else combined by a fair margin>zealot delegated to an even harder support role than beforekekTo be fair, the veteran was smokes over krak. Smokes are insanely valuable with how retarded plasma gunners are, and are a nice replacement for cuckbubble.
>>540366482Smokechads RISE UP!
>>540368225Smokes are shit, don't use them.
>>540366482Another 40 in the bag. Quite liking shock maul on zealot. Dueling sword is still good, and I really like thrust on that, but shock maul trivializes captains.Yes I'm dumping damage.>>540369525Smokes are extremely good in havoc 40, you just need to know how to place them.
>>540369557Why not take crusher on zealot if impact is what you're after? The stun special attack?
>>540369879The special melts void shields.
>>540369879nta but crusher is shite with no cleave
>>540369910Kk I'll have to try that some time>>540369990Is the cleave talent in zealots tree not enough to make up for it?
>>540309549Why are white men like this?
>>540371089no more world wars
Post THAT image, anon. You know the one.
>>540371891
>havoc 40>guy's game crashes>game updates>can't rejoinBRAVO fatshark
so leveling up weapon mastery only affects your ability to craft them, right? If I have 0 mastery on a weapon, but I find a rating 500 gold version of it with a bunch of blessings and stuff, it still functions as described? Or do blessings/abilities and item strength only go as high as you have mastery to use it and the features of that weapon will sort of "unlock" as you master it?
>>540372534Functions as described
>>540372534Anything you get from shops/mission rewards are as is. You just can't upgrade their power or use the best traits/blessings until your mastery catches up
Why did they nerf dogsplosion for literally no reason? It was already the worst blitz option and they completely ignored all of what actually makes arbitrator OP when picking things to nerf
Any good co-op games with focus on looting / getting rare items?
>>540373878It's a stealth buff actually.3 -> 2 charges is a nerf against monstrosities, but 60s -> 50s cooldown makes it have higher damage output overall over the course of a game.I use it. I think it's pretty decent. Even in havoc. I prefer it over mines when using shield and shotgun, since that's such an abundance of stun, that I don't need long lockdown. Dog boom is a self replenishing monster stagger, and I prefer dog over lone wolf because it's a sniper seeking missile.
>>540340263because darktide is dead in the water, the senior devs are clearly fantasy autists, the mid level leads have all left, and the remaining development team is probably one useless oldhead who suggested it in the first place, a maintenance staff, and then some poor junior dev who has to beg the art team to take a break from ue5 sloppa to make him a new asset to implement for his portfolio so he can get a real job
>general is most active between 2-8 amyeah that checks out
it's 4PM though
>>540375598Do you think the devs post here? Or the CM? If so then Felinid update when >:3c
>>540375975doubt it, I think only Payday2 CM was confirmed to be posting here
>>540375975getting caught on 4chan is insta-death for your professional life in like 2/3 of the offices involved in tech or entertainment so i really doubt it
>>540376232I mean yeah they probably don't want to get caught, but isn't that the point of anonymity here? Just because someone posts here doesn't mean they need to be letting everyone know they do.
How do we feel about plasma gunners
>>540373937a lot, those are popular gameplay elements. diablo 4, borderlands 4, nightreign, baldur's gate 3, are a few recent good ones
>>540371089>(((lindberg)))>white
>>540377662In Emperor's Fading Light II, they can round the corner with a charged shot and instagib you because they spawn in groups of 4+. Their sound is also indistinct/quiet. They are unfun and badly designed.Their mechanic is cool but the bullshit outweighs that.
>>540377662They need longer spool-up time per shot, in my opinion. So that I have time to hear that it's coming and have time to take action. But I like that they're armored.
what the fuck
>Morepiss Trials Auric>Everything's fine>wave 12>3 plague ogryns, 30 pox hounds, 20 mutants, 50 plasma gunner (shooting faster than a retard with a helbore) 100000 poxwalkers>all that spawning at the same timeTy I guess?
>>540378195numeric ui is buggedturn off modules until itowrks
>>540378231my looger would have killed everything in 2 seconds btw
>>540378272>>540378195You only need to turn off the Show ammo and grenades gained portion in the mod options
>>540376535back in the day maybe but for years jannies have been irc/discord circle jerking stalker troons
>>540377663>borderlands he said good
>>540378659Yeah lmao I would've elaborated but I was in the middle of a game.I think you're right. I fiddled around with mine until it worked, I just didn't remember which one it was.
>>540378339u lie
>>540379016chronically
>>540379141is that true?
>>540379295noi lied again
I'm going to say the N word!FOR NURRRRGLE!
>>540379448>:,(
>>540379710NIGGER!
why do zealots not have a single talent that interacts with burning enemies? they have a bunch of bleed instead?real head scratcher
>>540380114Because the future cryostaff users would be butthurt about their freeze being interrupted
>Ventilation Purge>This secretly means extra snipers but since the game doesn't actually tell you that the snoric goyim don't know that>Three arbsissies join with butt spreader shotguns>Predictably wipe at the end of consignment yard after they all die while standing out in the open
Are there any fire-melee weapons in 40k that could be added?
>>540380617Bitch, please.
>>540380496Hey, spread shotgun is actually decent against snipers. If I remember correctly it's only 2 shots, and also the special obviously works against them.Of course, pubbie randos don't even know the special EXISTS, nor do they acknowledge snipers even when pinged.
I browsed nexus for a simple scoreboard mod so I can see how I do after missions, and I'm disgusted by some of the other mods I'm seeing on here. So many people are straight up cheating as they play. Some of these cheats have lots of downloads too.
>>540380760weird looking Sweet tooth
I love this game
I need more cash, back to the grind for me
>>540382432I want Fatshark to make a new operations mission but instead or a train this time around it's the rejects infiltrating a heretic controlled zone, say a fuel refinery and blow it up.Mission starting with the team needing to install explosives on key points.Once that's done the timer starts and the team needs to get the fuck out before the place goes up in flames, and they need to get to a pre-determined rendezvous point to get picked up by Masozi/Storm Serpent.I think that'd be a great mission for them to add.
>New Operation: Virtuous Punishment.>This time the threat is not on Atoma, but aboard the Mourningstar itself.>Make a bloody path through the mutineers to eliminate their leader.>Name of the rebel leader: Lady Alice Hallowette.
>>540383626I would be gino (gamer kino) if this occurred on a large WWI-esque battlefield between the loyalists and traitors similar in design to the Nox battlefield from the Wolfer flashback. The strike team would have to run through no man's land with covering fire from tanks and artillery in order to enter the enemy trenches and sabotage them.
>>540380617
A FUCKIGN PIG!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSUUUUUUUUUUUEY! COME ON PIGGY! PIGGY PIGGY! OINK OIN!
>>540386273kek
>>540356270There’s levels to it.>>540363110Lol>>540363460Well that’s retardedGood thing we can still ultimately decide what we want to be true
>Got declined from 10 havoc parties in a row awardDid ranks reset after the update and now everyone thinks I'm clearance level 5 after I joined a low level as a joke? My assignment is still at 40 but I'm getting denied from joining even 20s.
>open darktide to check out the once-a-year update>see that I'll have to redo my talents yet again>on all loadouts>on all classes>close darktide
>>540386273That's a boar.
>>540388349Gigachads playing a single class can't stop winning
>>540363460I can already picture why >BLIMEY, WE JUST HIRED THESE LAWYA BLOKES AND THEY BE ITCHIN' FOR SOME ACTION>OI, LET'S RESERVE NAMES>YEAH BOUT WHAT ABOOT LASGUNS>LAS WOT>THE STARS WARS MOVIES GUNS WE USED>DEY FIRED RED BEAMS>I THOUGHT THOSE WERE PURPLE>NAH, THAT'S JUST THEM ARTIPHISHIAL INTELLECT BLOKES MUCKING IT UP IN 4K UPSCALE>GET ON IT JAMES, MAKE THOSE GUNS FOIRE PISS YELLOW YA?
>>540388398A BOAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Havoc
>>540388798Cool meme, now look at the FIVE MILLION damage
>>540388864No.
>>540388614>5,5 million damageJesus Christ.
>>540388864>not 6propaganda
>>540388798kek>>540388864No.
>>540388798cool meme>>540388864No.
I WATCHED THE STUPID TWITCH STREAMSWHERE THE FUCK IS MY ABYSMAL DOGSHIT
>>540371089Even though browns are like that
>>540389739https://www.twitch.tv/DROPS/inventoryclick claim, restart Dorktide, DORK
>>540389739>>540389831Just link your twitch account to your steam account goy
>>540364282more importantly the lack of cute women>>540365469it definitely gets annoying quickly
>>540371982Can you not post rat genitals in the thread thanks
>>540377663>balding gays>diablo>shartreignhe said good
>>540375401how do you figure>>540378751sad but true
>>540382031Cooler looking sweet tooth if anything>>540388349Well now youve ruined my looking forward to it...
>>540380287A cryostaff sounds fucking sick honestly>>540384191God if only…
>>540378339I was running looger with the crit archetype and died last. theres literally so much shit on wave 12 especially when you're the last man standing and 10 plasma gunners are shooting at you whilst theres waves of mutants I just couldnt kill shit quickly enough
>>540388349Actually they only wiped 3 class loadouts this time, meaning I only lost 15 builds.
>>540388798she's so cute bros
>>540389831Oh. I didn't realize you had to go claim them manually. Thank you for the helpful comment!
I wish the electro staff had armourbane as a blessing.
>>540384191>Hadron slaughtered like a pig>Kayek isn't interrupted anymore and gets the real moebian steel>Next game update with red weaponslol
Chaospill me on taxes, are they good now?
So are Chaos just total jobbers getting dabbed on by 4 retards like this?
>>540392998no, pure theft
>>540393240Yeah Archaon is a bitch that got kicked in the dongliz, there's no recovering from that. Chaos is DONE
>>540393240No. This cult is a pretty third rate one and we’re actually pretty exceptional depending on the backstory you pick.
>>540392998No, the goverment steals from you.
>>540392998taxes were always good if your build was made correctly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT94rSET8OQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT94rSET8OQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT94rSET8OQIT'S UP
>>540392998Yes they’re good pay the emperor what you owe and that’s it
Are there any major xenos chaos forces or is it just mankind that's prone to chaos corruption?
>>540395202darkchud btfo by our troon
>>540396030Eldar are notoriously corrupted by chaosthey're the reason Slaanesh even exists
>>540396030There is, but good luck trying to get GW to write about them.
>>540395202link me the zealot one when it's up, I need a tranny build if I'm ever going to come back to this tranny game>he's defending the dueling sword as his favorite weapon in the commentsdarkturd is actually hopeless
>>540396030yeah, there are a lot of chaos worshiping xenos all over the galaxy, but the main xenos factions we see a lot tend not to. necrons hate chaos and are directly opposed to it, tau have miniscule warp signatures so chaos isn't interested in them, orks don't care one bit about chaos because why would you ever not worship Gork and Mork, and eldar are deeply afraid of chaos because slaanesh wants to eat their souls because they're the tastiest so they're also opposed to chaos. Of the major factions, it's only humans who have a tendency to worship chaos, but it's important to note that there are thousands of species across the galaxy and a good number of them have been noted to feature chaos worship over the years. The imperium tends to genocide them when they encounter them.
>>540397590>Tranner doesn't know about shock maulkek
>>540363460based GW btfoing lorelet secondaries
>>540396030Everything and anything is susceptible to Chaos in the galaxy. There are certain races that are more resilient to its influence, but there isn’t anything that can be said to be outright immune to it. As for major races, humanity is pretty much the only one that actively seeks them out, the rest have nothing to gain from it or have societal countermeasures in place that neuters how far it can get with them. Orks for example will kill any Ork that they see fall to Chaos because they ‘weren’t behaving Orky enough’.>>540397260Eldar don’t get corrupted by Slaanesh, they’re cursed by xher but they just skip straight to having their souls eaten if they somehow fall under her influence.
>>540395202>new update comes and re-works the skilltrees>the best veteran build is still the sameKek
I was just thinking I need to level up mastery for the crusher and the Emperor gave me a gold 470 crusher the next mission after I thought that. It's a sign. What's the best set up for this thing?
>>540399136Respectfully and figuratively kys. We've had red laser beams for 2 decades. People have literally grown up with it. Now suddenly GW wants to change it because of some 1st edition artwork or references from old novels. Why couldn't GW be "based" and enforce Custodies being a brotherhood (male)? The way GW treats their own canon is completely arbitrary and you know it.
>>540400508Slaughterer + Skullcrusher
Alright, havoc 40 achieved after playing all afternoon.Immediately calling Tranner clueless for recommending frags because kraks carry, hard, and are borderline mandatory during healers modifier. A good krak veteran makes a world of difference.Don't care how much the tranny loves shoving his plasma in and out of his asshole repeatedly, focus target is better, and saying otherwise means he was clearly carried.Drooling sword is for droolers, the team should have at least one shock maul. Though I do think that should ideally be the zealot, or arbitrator if you bring one. Veteran should use the power sword. Unsure how good the falchion is.Used to not be a big fan of having an ogryn in the group, but it's extremely helpful now that enemies are HP crept. Rumbler is also sick for stunlocking monstrosities after chorus.I think zealot's flame grenades have been power crept out. Rotten armor, healers or stimms all make the enemies too tanky, and flame nades only deal with chaff. With how easily accessible stun grenades are now, I think I'll forever keep those instead. They really allow you to push DPS HARD on both psyker and zealot's own flamer.Res speed perk + 3x res curio is honestly insane. I thought it was novel at first, but am now convinced it might be close to optimal. The skill tree changes may have fucked with CDR, but since zealot never dies, having near instant revives is also very good wipe prevention. It's hilarious how quickly you can rescue someone that died, too.I ran into a worrying number of inconveniently placed deamonhosts all day. We ended up killing half of them, either because someone accidentally triggered them, or on purpose because it was easy to ledge them with chorus. Field improv + kraks are also insane for bosses when you have an ammo crate.I still think plasma gunners are retarded for their ability to instagib you, but I also think their toughness shred ability is fun.
>>540403461what's the ideal zealot teammate in your opinion? shock maul and relic with blazing piety?
>>540404083>relicchorus book
>>540402789Lasers being in correct color are consistent in all art and not only some old RT. It makes sense for some developers to finally fix their portrayal in vidya.>Why couldn't GW be "based" and enforce Custodies being a brotherhood (male)?Looks like they decided to listen and make everything lore friendly finallyEntire drama is a dumb secondary nothingburger which deserves to be relentlessly mocked
>>540403461I agree with you but you're a fag for paying attention to what tranner says
>>540395202tranner-kun, I hope you took my exercise advice to heartas for everyone else, it is actually important to do compound exercises like squats and deadlifts to build your core musclesit's double important if your job consists of sitting on your arse all day
>>540404542Since the Imperium is a big place with thousands of Forgeworlds and millions of Manufactoriums shitting out different variants of lasgun, why can't there be lasguns that fire different color bolts because the local system has different crystals or something?
>>540404542sounds like you're the secondary here, since you apparently don't know the Custodes lore
>>540404083>what's the ideal zealot teammate in your opinion?I was playing zealot the entire time. I've had the most success with stun grenades, revive speed maxxing, chorus, crit aura. Since nu zealot is kinda cucked for damage in havoc, I kinda ignored most damage talents and went full defense/support, and it's worked out great. I'm also pitifully low damage the entire time, but I had several players sucking my dick for playing support so I must've done something right.Flamer with brittleness and suppression blessings. The suppression is a big deal, but don't take this for gospel, try it yourself. I do miss not having to reload, but FUCK plasma gunners.Shock maul with damage amp on stagger and for the second blessing I'm running impact. Out of the marks, I like whatever the bottom one is, just because it's easier to use. Actual DPS doesn't matter much to me, it's a stun stick and void shield melter.I am still running the +2 wounds skill btw. Call me shit all you want, it's cheap to path to and I'm not really losing anything relevant, while gaining increased safety. Evidently it's good enough to hit havoc 40 on my own assignment.>>540404773>you're a fag for paying attention to what tranner saysI concede and kneel
>>540405191>The suppression is a big deal, but don't take this for gospel, try it yourself.my understanding is that fire suppressed by itself without the need for blessings. At least the fire staff works this way. Thanks for the tips. Finding good zealots as host is hard so i should have my own build ready.
>>540404919for me it's less about color and more about bolt vs beam. With bolts, lasgun shots look like regular tracer rounds. With beams they actually have an identity that set them apart from every other setting. Whether it's yellow or orange or red doesn't matter to me.
I think what Wolfer really needs is a hug.
>>540406425i need a hug
>>540406545*Glomps u* :3
>>540405414>my understanding is that fire suppressed by itself without the need for blessings.That was my understanding as well, but plasma gunners magically didn't get suppressed sometimes, and putting the blessing on fixed that.This might be placebo, I haven't done any science on it, hence my suggestion to try it yourself. If it truly isn't necessary, I'd take either strength or crit reload, I'm not 100% sure. But brittleness makes a massive difference for the psyker's DPS, and between shock maul damage amp (after chorus stun) and armor shred, monstrosities just implode when focus fired, and when that doesn't work, or there's a train of 4-5 of them spawning (this happened a couple times), krak grenades should clean up nicely.>buildpicrel, 2 toughness 1 stamina, all cdr, gunner res, revive speed and blessings detailed in >>540405191I wouldn't call this finalized, and I'm not 100% confident in all of my choices. I do think the block stamina refund is kind of a big deal. Purity is set in stone, it negates corruption chip. I contemplated sinking 3 points into the +15% move speed on the right because shock maul is super fucking slow, and if you don't like the extra wounds, I'd probably recommend that. I'm not sure how big of a difference building for melee damage would make, since shock maul isn't that hugely damaging in the first place.I'm guessing relic blade with CDR on the right could also be very strong. I haven't seen one in my recent havoc runs, and the few zealots I had didn't really contribute anything meaningful when built for damage. Pure support seems to still be the way to go.Host unfortunately rejected a known DPS zealot bro whose opinion/play I would've valued, so I didn't get to see how a damage zealot expert plays yet.
>>540404848So true
>To play a zealot in havoc is to abandon all damage nodes and be a supportkek that's why you'll never see me in your cuck mode
>>540407718slav and hardstuck coded post
>all lobbies are 30>fathshark deranked me to 24 with the update>surely it won't be so bad!>people die to 21st zombies, not bosses, not crushers just plain old flak spamcool, by time I reach my old rank again fatshark will reset ranks again
>mission aborted teehee nuke Sweden
>DS GOT BUFFED BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT AN ENTIRE SECOND FOR THRUST (i kvetched all the time about this blessing being shit for DPS before btw) AND CRIT WITHOUT RIPOSTE YOU CAN DEAL....as much damage as a pre nerf H1Is tanner retarded?
>>540409213lol he broke your mind :)
>>540409213>Is tanner retarded?For a fact. We've known this for ages now.
>>540404403Yes, it's a relic your character pulls out despite the icon being a book
>>540389934just ratfaggot things plz understand
>>540409213You’re going to make the cordsister dilate if you keep insulting him please phrase your posts in a nicer way in the future
>>540389934Look at them.
>>540395202THANK YOU KING
>>540363006 shhh don't let them realize how broken scrier's is with infinite smite and the active peril reduction change or they'll change it before they break it further by buffing smite or giving us the cryo staff
>>540402789red laser beams that have the same brightness from barrel to target and turn on and off instantly is both kino and scientifically accurate (aside from being visible at all) fuck yellow bolt contrarian fags who don't understand how fucking cool and chaotic a battlefield would look at night with this design
>>540408576yeah and what's worse is that they don't force you to click Accept when you host your first havoc so hosts are still denying True Survivors because we don't have clearance 40 after our name
So it's settled right? Tanner is /ourking/
It's simple, just abandon Havoc.
>>540412509you mean /ourqueen/
>>540412154nah mateit should BLUE, because BLUE is good codedunless it's a tzeentch, tau, death skulls...you know what, FUCK BLUE
>>540412567well i can't just leave this 30 next time my name or people will call me a shitter in aurics>>540412712blue is an evil color for evil people
>>540404919except thats not like light works, theyre red because of sciencecould they be white or yellow? yes, but that would be because the beam is so hot it creates its own light and distorts the normal red color of refractionyou cant make purple or blue lasers, youll just xray people and give them cancer or radiation poisoning
>>540409213>coping this hard over facts you can blatantly see both in game and in tanner's vids
>>540412509You meant to post this in the ‘cord sister
>the tranner defense force discordtroons are raiding copeg again
>>540404848Caring this much about exercise is fag coded btw
We're here to kill heretics and chew bubblegum.And we're all out of gum.
What's the dump stat on helbore rifles?Also which mark is the best?
>>540413865chew on dicks instead
>>540412509Iron Gaming 40k is the only channel I respect
Wait why did they reset the arbeetus talent trees? they changed it that much?
>>540414563No, fatshark is just retarded. Arbites got extremely minor changes, nothing even got reshuffled.
>>540413923ammomk5 is what i prefer, it uses 2 to 4 ammo with the fastest and weakest chargethe mk3a is a moderately fast and moderate charge damage, but uses 2? to 6 ammoyoull hit your break points with less full charge shots of mk3a but use more ammo and maybe time than the mk5, like you kill something with 3 shots of mk3a, but that took 18 ammo and 1.2 seconds, whereas mk5 will kill with 4 shots for 16 ammo and in 0.9 seconds. so if you want to put the auto in semiauto use the mk5, you want the semi mk3a
>>540414835Ok, thanks
I just played with an ogryn who had a fucking twink voice and a german accent
>>540416843I thought euros didn't use voice chat
>>540406917thanks mang.
>>540416979Euro here, it's true.It's very rare that someone does, and those are usually console players. I much more frequently have people talking on US servers.Even when I'm making callouts in havoc, it's rare that someone answers. Which tbf, a simple yes/no or ping already handles most of the necessary communication.>give me 10s for chorus cd and I'll ledge the daemonhost in our wayetc.
>>540402789>secondary melty Post models or never speak about 40k lore again.
>>540417702>no retorti rest my case
>>540416979It happens but it's exceedingly rare.
>>540417940>only red in video gamesSelf report, feel free to end your life.
>>540417702off-topic, video game generals boardkindly vacate
>>540418395>having a melty over yellow lights isn't off-topic
>>540418259>>only red [beams] in video gamesYes, that's the point. It has only ever been red beams in video games for 20 years and it should stay that way.
So because Rannick fucked up the Atoma's arbites joined the inquisition?
>>540418802You said GW changed the Canon and made them yellow. Then you had a melty over it.And now you're moving the goalposts to try and prove you're correct.I don't know what's more pathetic, being upset over a colour light in a video game. Or refusing to admit you're wrong about it.Feel free to cope and seethe below, they were always yellow you little faggot.
>>540419195>You said GW changed the Canon and made them yellow.I never did. Learn to read. Enjoy your generic yellow tracer rounds, faggot.
>>540419326>"GW is now also saying that lasguns don't fire red beams, they fire yellow bolts.">nowLmao retard fucking secondary. Enjoy my last (You)
>>540419456But that's a factual statement. I'm not wrong. They used to let artists design lasguns freely, which turned into red laser beams for 20 years. And now (8 months ago) GW decided this is no longer allowed and video games have to change. This is a fact.
Question, I'm just coming back to Darktide after a long break, is there any reason to do Mortis Trials if you don't need crafting materials?
>>540419919the only reason is funif you're into that stuff
>>540416843>something shows up in my youtube recommended>it's a euro trying to do a falsesetto voice and voicing over horny comic panelsit really do be like that
>>540419964I'm not a gay
>>540419176idk
>>540416979Barely anyone besides Americans use it. Although apparently Russians like it too but I’ve never once ran into one.>>540419176… What? No. The Arbites are temporarily collaborating with them because it’s still technically within their ability to do so and they’re doing that because shit is taking too long.
>>540419919It's very conducive for doing penances and farming elite/special kills, and if you just want to kill shit without slowing the whole team down.
>>540419919If you want more insight into the lore/story/characters are jej you should play it. Otherwise no.
1. wtf is weakspot strenght?2. it apllies to both melee weakspot hits and ranged weakspot hits??
>>5404208981. very strong2. yes
>>540420898>weakspot hit makes weakspot hit stronger
>>540419176The Arbites initially stood back and let the Inquisition tackle the uprising their way, but due to them taking too long to win, the Arbites forced themselves into the Inquisition's operations in order to get the job done. The banter and new memory lines indicate that the Inquisition would rather not have the Arbites looking over their shoulder, and the Arbites thinks the warband is a bunch of fucking amateur murderhobos.But in general, it's not uncommon for the Inquisition and Arbites to join forces, but Arbites have been known to turn on radical Inquisitors who stray too far from the lex.
>>540419919pick vet and executioner stance (pick all sub nodes)equip bolter, pray to the emperor for "Full auto blessing" (also +2 skill if you can get it)you may now delete the entire map while laughing like a retard
>>540420898the weakspot is usually the headergo; hitting the head increases headshot damage
>>540421069Well that's kinda logic
Wait, is there new Sefoni goon dimension stuff? I've spent all week grinding out havoc 40, I've barely played 2 aurics even. Are there new penances for it?
>>540421884What's the point of pretending being retarded? please explain?
>>540421884moretits trials?a few>2 new indulgence groups (crit based, crowd control) and their penances dor just picking them up>2 penances for new Zola and Zorin voicelines>never use ammo crate penance on any difficulty >just complete the new snow map penance
Fuck me, I really want to try being a sniper vet using piss vision but piss toughness is so much fucking better.And then weapon wise the helbores just feel clunky as fuck to use and the semi auto vigilant just doesn't feel "oomphy" enough to feel like a proper sniping gun. Also never mind that both's sights still fucking suck, I hate all the iron sights in this god forsaken game. And I don't want to dowload the weapon customization mod because my PC is a potato and the mod causes memory leaks out the ass.Just fuck. Give me the long las but don't add the awful charge mechanic.
is this acceptable for havok forty?
>>540422271I have literally not paid attention to it. I've barely even looked at the class reworks. I literally just saw balance changes to havoc, new havoc season, and jumped into havoc until I was done with it, before all the good players fucking leave again after hitting 40 and make it a nightmare to find a good group. I'm not joining some trooncord for it.>>540422287Yes, thanks.>>never use ammo crate penance on any difficulty Only you (easy) or team wise (impossible mode)?
>>540422673>Longlas will have the TF2 style charge up when scoping in
>>540422840only (You) I got it by accident on zealot
>>540422734yes
>>540423024sweet
I don't get it, what's the difference between the bolt pistol marks. MKVI has less damage and ammo.
>>540423982>540423982Haven't checked and not on right now, but if it's like the bolter than the new mark might be an AOE /stagger type weapon.
is there seriously no video for the savant voicelines for the female psyker?
>>540423982new mark has bigger aoe (lol) and doesn't jump so high between shots
>>540422673The most satisfying sniper weapon is currently the slug shotgun. Easy access to both reload talents make loading and shooting relatively quick. Has a satisfying thoomp sound and can bowl over a crusher.
>>540424460I wouldn't exactly call the "pellet gun running out of CO2" a satisfying thoomp.
did they buff small shooters outside havocs?I don't remember Auric not ak-47 raghead shoot so fast and with so much damage
>>540423982the new bolter and bolt pistol does AOE damage, test it on the psykhanium
Well, the Mk III vigilant autogun might be the best of the 3, it feels like a battle rifle
>>540425228but i like the BRRRRRRT of the vraks...
Why do the absolute worst retards swarm the EU server after midnight? I thought jobless losers with all their free time to wank would at least bother to be decent at this game
>>540425730sorry anon, i mostly play for the 40k atmosphere and fun action a few times a week, not enough to get good
>>540425730most people on welfare are pretty low-functioning, the neet philosopher king thing is just a joke
>>540425820That’s arguably the best way to play the game these days
is it me or the arbeetus is kinda boring to play?
>>540426169Lexmates, crush this Lex breaker's balls.
>>540426169Lexually assault this block fodder
>>540426169experiment with builds and weaponsright now I am trying out castrator stance in havocs, usually just slam myself against crushers
how does skullcrusher work if you have 2+ people running it? theres no way theres a separate counter for each person right, that would be too op
>>540430582you share stacks and reach cap faster, same with brittleness... kinda... mostly
>>540430582>hit enemy with stagger>hit staggered enemy again and apply 4 stacks of skullcrusher>hit staggered enemy again and apply the final 4 stacks for a maximum of 8 stacks
why the hell did they make the plasma monkeys immune to suppression
>>540435276Because they have heavy armor
>>540426169i mean its just the zealot with an op shotgun and a dog that gets by mostly on vibes
they should see how far they can push it by adding in a mute class from Officio Assassinorum and just adding a couple copy + paste weapon types and two more dash-push skills of different lengths
i am once again calling on fatshark to combine rev it up and bloodletter into a single blessing and cause it to give revved heavy attacks a lungeit would still be strictly worse than rampage shred but it would at least be fun
>block plasma gunner shot>it does full damage through my shield>they then proceed to keep unloading on me instead of running in to meleethey literally designed this enemy to be as unfun as possible to fight against
>>540436210>not a third stealthya blew it
>>540436342that's the base skill, sorryupgrades to allowing you to shoot a sniper rifle while stealthed but it takes so long to reload that you only get the one shot anywayFatShark Seal of Quality
The biggest tell that someone is sub-havoc 40 perma-auric shitter is claiming Arbites is stronger than Ogryn or Psyker.
i really wish they would bring all of the blessings into parity with one another. the shield-based blocking blessings in particular piss me off the most because of how anti-synergetic they are
Is Arbites worth buying? Is Arbites fun ?
>>540437138Yes
>>540436845they founded the entire game on the premise of hidden values (which is why we have no scoreboard) and then added a testing ground and youtube creator program to ensure each patch had a meta within a dayi'm starting to think these guys have no clue what they're doing
>>540438106fatshark was never good at anything besides combat feel, character writing, and music and they decided to throw one of those away
they gave another one over to arrowhead
>>540438218Can Jasper Kyd really be considered Fatshark though?
>>540439252they hired him and haven't fired him so that counts for a little
I've been slowly making my way through the damnation missions. Tough stuff....I've been playing psyker because I like being a wizard but it's much squishier than arby and zealot so it's been tough.I like the talent rework. It feels like I'm choosing fewer chaff nodes I don't care about, and choosing more nodes that do something. That was their goal so that is nice.So far my favorite weapon are the staffs, to go with the wizard theme. The electrokinetic one is a blast to use (heh) and it's also harder than most guns since it has a slower projectile, so that's been a fun challenge. Bubble shield is by far my favorite ability, it feels great to swoop in and shield everyone from the new plasmagunners. They've been cooking me and my team mates in all my matches, they come in groups and have a smaller audio cue so it's tough.This game is so awesome, I'm having a blast.
>>540436210dont forget the aoe circular skill, assassins presence, which staggers every enemy in an aoe and makes them take 30% more damage for 5 seconds
>>540439889i can't believe that for even a second i was excited to see fatshark's take on psykers
>>540439887newcutie
>>540439887It's the best game in the genre>>540441294Cool it with the tranny talk, groomer
>>540441406nigga
wait there's still no knife on the knifeplay emote? LMFAO
hotfix killed all the mods again
>>540443225Niggy, just run the .bat again. Takes 5 seconds. If it crashes, you didnt update the mod loader yet, which is a matter of drag and dropping one archive, so 10 seconds of effort.
>play on release patch>no one can survive new auric>wait a few days, play HD2 some more>jump back in, tool up my builds to be better with weapons I want to run>people still cannot handle auric difficulty>drop down to damnation>people handle that even worse>even heresy has people unable to comprehend what the W key on their keyboard doesWhat the actual dogfuck happened to this game's community? I'm typing this after my third dogshit horrid rolling steel where I have to spam ping objectives so people understand that stuff is on a timer and we still fail near the end because chimps are standing 3 cars back fighting poxwalkers. I don't get it man, I expected a little tomfoolery on patch day but holy shit it's STILL bad.
>tranner says zealot is TOUGHER than ever>but he's actually F tier, the lowest class in the game, because he's no longer the book slutit's so over
>>540443519They buffed most enemies to no longer fall over to a stiff breeze, and introduced an enemy you can't just facetank with gold toughness. The result? 99% of crutching players can now not clear the game anymore because they actually have to dodge crushers occasionally nowPersonally I like it
>>540443617I mean the missions I run where people are able to walk and breathe at the same time is nice but the dice roll to get that group who can actually cohesively stand within coherency range is horrid. I just wanna play new Vet man.
>level 7202 ogryn>bull butcher>mk 2 ripper>grenade box>chargedis nigga playing the same dude for 3 years wtf
>>540443762You can reasonably solo carry aurics but I understand not wanting to do it every time best bet is finding people you wanna play with somewhere else
>>540444457>reasonablyi get that everybody pretends to run true survivor every time they play havoc 40 around here but a video of someone solo'ing auric is anything other than reasonableits literally adhd twitch fest of popping specials and dodging overheads while pushing mixed crowds for minutes on end, even good players choke from time to time
>>540443541the only good part of zealot is that with relic blade equipped the skill floor is extremely lowa drooling retard can put in utility in havoc 40 by just mashing left click and following the carry around with a bookno reason to pick it over any other class if you're good at head clicking
+1 damnation mission down. This was a tough one but I landed some clutch shields and there were two really good players on the team so we made it. The game is starting to noticeably increase the number of enemies at once, we died several times and it was always because a combination of disablers and flamethrowers at the same time, or bosses+flamethrowers/plasmagunners.The staff not having a shove got me killed once. I tried to shove a burster but M2 on the staffs is actually the charge up alternate fire lol. Went straight off the map lmao.The Emperor gave me a gold 440 vigilant autogun but I don't use guns on psyker. It's a shame you can't pass weapons over to your other characters. I like that weapon mastery does carry over at least.
>>540445550It really do be like that
>>540444378>autistic 40k fans exhibit signs of autism i.e. aversion to changemore news at 11
>>540445792>aversion to change is now a sign of autismoh no no no
man am I just retarded or something? If theres more than 2 plasma gunners it feels like impossible to dodge this shit in open ground
>>540445792where do you think you are right now
>>540445904if you get snipers and plasma gunners its unironically over i have zero clue how to fight against that without invis
>>540445224I didn't mean an actual solo which is way harder, solo carrying as in guarantee a victory for your team. It doesn't even necessarily have to involve a solo clutch, you can pull people through a mission without them dying if you're aggressive enough
>>540446058clandestum gloriana on maelstrom with entire hordes, waves of disablers and fuckin 8 plasma gunners shooting you from your left and your right as you try to do the objective is insane
snipers, gunners, and plasmers should put away their gun and come up to smack you in melee whenever they hit your shield and get taunted
>>540446084i just miss cataclysm which was difficult to learn but felt fair and could be enjoyed somewhat passively once you got your head around it / unlearned your bad habits from low difficultiesi guess it just never feels like i'll master aurics/h30+ in the same way i did cataclysm, but it also doesn't feel like i'm learning much at this point either - just coming up against the limitations of my dexterity
>>540447413and fatshark's limitations in terms of fixing silent specials bugs, host dogs and trapper nets with noclip
>>540447413I would say current auric difficulty does feel a lot like cataclysm, just that darktide randos are generally really fucking horrid and leave instantly
>>540447631i haven't played auric in a while since i was focused on clearing 40 and now they reset it and i have to do it againmaybe i'd feel the same way about ratclick if weaves had taken off and most people played those, idkmaybe i just fucking hate sliding and sprinting
>>540447768I just ignore havoc nowadays, I got my 40 and true survivor, I don't really enjoy how reliant on teammates it is. Stopped playing it after the second time they dropped my rank. Aurics are more fun for me to just drop into with any build on any map and have some fun with randos
This is going into the next Zealot I see
>>540443364
I think I might know why Mortis trials are the way they are, it lets them advertise as having a rogue-like and wave-defense mode. I really think that's why it's the way it, some crazy idea from on-high to add those tags to the game for more sales
The talent trees were a mistake. The more they simplify the talent trees the more obvious Fatshark should have just stuck with the class system
>>540454726rest easy, anon. they'll rework them again in 6 months. kek
>>540449761They should add a new stim that's the corrupted stims from the carnival missions that will corrupt a wound but give you every other stim effect at the same time
>>540454726>fatshark should've just stuck with the simplified trees>fatshark should've just did everything they did in vermintide 2>fatshark should've just not made darktidethe chain of logic is unquestionable
>clear aurics regularly no issue>malestorm rapes me:(
>>540454970Fatshark should in fact have made Vermintide in SpaceInquisitorVeteranPsykerEldarSquat (maybe Ratling)
>>540455452It really should’ve just been marines.>but muh personality Small sacrifice for the sheer enemy variety.
>>540455636>enemy varietyfatshark has done fuck all in terms of enemy factionswhat makes you think they would have done more factions if they did space marines?
>>540455452GODLIKE POST, BROTHER!
>>540454726it is kind of funny that they constantly overscope shit and never deliver a finished product, only finally updating the game with some half-finished shit when even the most hardcore fans are on the verge of dropping it
>>540447543>silent specials bugsI'm convinced at this point that silent specials are not actually a bug but are an intentional tool of the director to fuck over the best player on the team. We already know that the director sends specials to target the top performer, presumably out of some misguided idea that it will introduce more tension if the hard carry gets disabled, but I am now convinced after playing some low level havocs with the worst console players I have ever seen that silent specials are intentional. When being targeted by every special and elite on the map isn't enough to disable the hard carry, the game starts pulling out the silent trappers, the instantly exploding bursters, and the dogs that spawn with no howl then skip their jumping animation and just pounce onto you from idle.
>>540455636>We will never ever get a (well-made) Space Hulk coop game>We will never ever get a Deathwatch coop game (LITERALLY perfect for coop with endless character customization and build options and enemy selection)>Instead we got gutter trash prisoners killing zombies in industrial hallways
>>540455956>>540455452we sure it also aint on gaymsworkshop end?its not like they ever want to depict impium be completely nice to xenos unless its votann
>>540458452we could also have just gotten a Rogue Trader coop gamei mean shipmistress brahms is right therewhere is grendyl
>>540459101learn English
>>540445792… Like every fanbase of everything, ever. Dummy.>>540446310That does sound cool.>>540449761I always do the same.
>>540455452Nah. Just make it about an Inquisitors retinue. Simple stuff.
>>540458452>Instead we got gutter trash prisoners killing zombies in industrial hallwaysPRAISE THE EMPEROR!it has taken ages for this opinion to mature, but it is one-thouand percent correct. fuck Darktide.
>>540458452theres only like 2 missions where we run around industrial hallways, we never actually get the full lower hive experience
>>540459821brother... every map is just a series of rusty, dimly lit, industrial hallways, with an occasional room in-between them. that's why the new map being more of the same but with some snow textures and a blue tint isn't getting anyone's dick hard. we've played Rogue Trader and Space Marine 2. we have seen alien worlds and bewildering architecture. we are no longer satisfied with rusty industrial hallways.
>>540460137and the ceiling is tall enough to fly a valkyrie in, i said the lower hive experience, meaning actual tunnels and cramped hallways
There's a class that is exclusively male, so they could balance things by making a class that si exclusively female. The obvious 40k exclusively female faction is the Adepta Sororitas. Originally, this didn't make sense with the game's plot, since the Sororitas have their own penal system and one would never be on a generic penal ship, but Fatshark actually solved this issue themselves by introducing the Arbites, who are not rejects but rather the local Atoman branch of the Adeptus Arbites here to help out. That is what the Adepta Sororitas could do, you can copy their homework.The other issue however is that a SoB would directly step on Zealot's toes in terms of gameplay and identity. They would use eviscerators, they would have faith based buffs and support abilities, they would pray to stun or damage enemies, and they would manifest miracles in the form of momentary invulnerability when close to death and sudden surges in physical ability. They copied the SoB abilities from lore when designing the zealot class, so trying to add the actual SoB as a class would propose a major issue of overlap.One possible solution to that is to move the zealot into more melee damage, and have a hospitalier theme for the SoB, so she gets the prayers and stuns, and can ranged revive people, and revive the dead, and such things. Or, less likely and less ideal, is just delete the zealot and roll everything into the SoB class, so there's still 5 classes and no class identity overlap issues.The good news however is that they come with their own new weapons. The meltagun, the multimelta, the heavy flamer, the inferno pistol, and neural whips are several weapons that would come with the SoB update, and of course the cash shop would make Fatshark tons of easy money, since you could dress up your character as a celestian, a sancrecant, a repentia, a hospitalier, a canoness, a dominion, a novitiate, etc. You could even add the funny ordo famulous hats.
>>540460547Not gonna read thisWe have a settled on the fact that the SoBs are a terrible idea for a new class
>>540460735bro just let me have my pretty woman class so I can be a WHORE in chat
>>540449761NOOOOOOO MUH DPS MUH MARTYRDOM AAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEE
>>540460547it would be cool and it would work lore wise now that they did the same thing with the arbeeeetes but it still doesn't feel likely. it feels too high effort. people want mechanicus as well and I think they're both pipe dreams. we're going to get something with another dash forward and bash ability for the 5th time >>540460735you don't speak for anyone you ignoramus especially when you're wrong
>>540461082It's such a fucking retarded idea that it needs to be called out
>>540461082yeha I prefer Skitarii marshal with a focus on ranged and hacking with skulls
>>540460735>wenypa faggot
>>540461317By "we" i meant anyone who's not a delusional, coping retardFeel free to exclude yourself from that group
>>540460547female locked ratling
>>540460435if Darktide levels were any more cramped, it would have to issue a claustrophobia warning before the main menu.
>>540461436>wenypa faggot
Vermintide 2 newfag question: How do you play Sienna? Do you just fireball shit until your meter is close to full and then switch to melee until it drops back down? I was testing her with the training dummy, and her fireball damage kind of seemed pitiful. Might just be because I'm level 1 with her or whatever. IDK.
>>540460735why are you like this
>>540460547Sororitas wouldn't even be enough to get me to reinstall this shit anymore. where are the MAPS? where are the WEAPONS? additional CLASSES? MEANINGFUL NEW ENEMY TYPES? fucking Helldivers 2 added in-door, underground environments before Darktide added outdoor environments. they added a whole third faction, mechs, and added fucking insect dragons to the bug lineup. we are getting fucking LAPPED while FatShark shill Aquillas.
here is how it would really go down>sisters added>only one new face, the ugliest female face yet>despite being female locked their armor is still somehow breast removing and inexplicably male shaped>no boob armor>3 extremely grating voices>highly generic treesthe assumption has been>sororitas would improve darktidethe reality is>sororitas would be ruined by darktide
>>540460435>>540459821Even worse, we haven’t seen the most interesting part of Hive Cities, that being the spires and the very deepest part of the Underhives that stretch for miles and miles and is home to all kinds of shit. Lots of kino to be acted upon.>>540460547>They copied the SoB abilities from lore when designing the zealot class, so trying to add the actual SoB as a class would propose a major issue of overlap.I mean not really. It’s not like SoBs are the only ones around with unrelenting faith and dubious faith fueled abilities. If you want to say they took their theme that would be more accurate but I think having two of those kinds of characters would be a waste, there are better choices than a Sister but I wouldn’t be entirely opposed to it I guess.
>>540461859>the ugliest female face yetThey would have to go full DaS freak CaC to make a face more hideous than the current ones. Haunted Mask salesman ass create-a-character.
>>540461679Why don't i want to speculate on the class that will without a doubt never happen and is a terrible idea? Why don't i want to rehash the same settled argument for the thousandth time?
>>540461859>only one new face, the ugliest female face yetThey'll got back to the SoB art from 2e for inspiration
>>54044579240k fans are truly Nurgle's greatest champions
>>540462040things must be dire in the ol' Albion if that is the average woman there with a scowl on her face
>>540462205>averageThis is an 8 in the UK
>>540460547the last new class was just a Zealot with a dog, shock mines, and a shield. they're not exactly making meaningfully distinct class decisions as it is. just give the SoB a class-locked Bolter & Sword dual-wield weapon like Saltzpyre had, and maybe some magic abilities, and call it a day. Google says they sometimes employ "Rune Priest like, non-chaotic sorcerery."
Why can't Psykers put a Staff in either weapon slot? Why do they have to give up their firearm for it?
>>540462705God image how fucking worthless most psykers would be if they could enter a match with no melee weapon.I'd love to see it unironically.
>>540462397SoB miracles are effectively the same shit as chorus or Holy Revenant
>>540462351This one looks substantially better thoughAlso that’s a sick fucking gun and armor>>540462397I’m not so sure that’s the right description for it but yeah they can pretty much pull off what zealot already does
>>540462829It definitely wouldn't be for higher difficulties, but I think it could be fun and/or challenging at low to mid end difficulties.
>>540462705According to sw*de logic, it lets you shoot mind bullets so it's automatically a ranged weapon, even though force staves have always been classified as melee weapons in 40k itself.
>>540463803>weapon with ranged attacks is a ranged weaponHoly skibidironi
>>540461651>How do you play Sienna?Bright Wizard: Conflag or Coru staff with Flame Sword. Abuse how fucking broken Famished Flames is.Unchained: Do whatever you want with Bomb Balm + Abandon to be almost unkillable, can basically never die as long as your APM is high for a quickie weapon swap vent.Pyromancer: Play melee like an ultra chad or play crit staves like Bolt (this career is not that good but it is the only Sienna career that doesn't put you to sleep)Necro: Anyone who played after this released is retarded>Heat meterPressing/holding R while holding a staff vents your overcharge at the cost of health. Thanks to how THP works in Vermintide 2, this is not a downside and is infinite ammo. Because your first "overcharged" spell can only take you to 99 heat and not just kill you, cast a spell > tap r > cast another spell and there you go Sienna's heat meter is solved.>Fireballbad staff. From memory the only way to make is usable is scaling with crit and using it on pyromancer by just spamming it as fast as you can without charging, but it's not good. Only staff worse than Fireball is Flamethrower>WeaponsFire Sword is in the running for best weapon in the game thanks to its C1 > Block Cancel loopDagger is worse fire sword that's good for the same reason (C1 is infinite cleave and sets enemies on fire) but at least has better single targetFlail is all around great for all situations1H Sword is mediocreMace is badCrowbill is good but bad hordeclearingScythe was really good iirc>So what should I play121312 Dagger Conflag Pyro if you want to have any fun
>>540465010I think Necro is fun and unique
>>540436486Honestly that should be part of veteran's stealth ability. Like you can get say 1-3 shots off while in stealth
>>540444378That's basically me but I use the slab shield instead.
>>540455452>no ogrynDogshit game
>>540458452Space marine 2, go play it.
>>540460547>hey what if we did the zealot class all over againTerrible idea. Thankfully they will never add them and more likely zealots are just going to get a premium slop cosmetic of sob armor
>>540462397>Rune PriestThose are Space Wolves librarians and have nothing to do with SoB. Don't use the garbage google AI.
>>540466405I meant a good game
>>540466748>shifting goalpostsI accept your concession.
>>540466405runs like shit
>>540464704>>540465010>>540465341>>540466025>>540466561>>540466748LolGood one
>>540458285It honestly fucking feels that way sometimes
My favorite weapon so far is the humble chainsword. It has 200 damage light attacks and I like dodging around light attacking. The dueling sword has 60 damage light attacks and only attacks slightly faster so I like the chainsword overall better.Also what weapon has 100%/100% on the damage bar?
>>540467836>Also what weapon has 100%/100% on the damage bar?80% is the max on all weapons for some reason
Any update on when they are going to remove lights out from the game? I would rather suffer through a thousand lifetimes of rotten armor and encroaching garden slop than play a single lights out mission, that shit is just not fun and hurts my eyes.
So how is vet hellbore now?
>>540467996Erm excuse me its called DARKtide not Daytide okay?
>>540468079Mid in auricsStrong in havocs
what's with autists and the need to avatarfag
So, how are we enjoying the new plasma gunner scab, havocsissies?
>>540466839not everything has to be a debate
>>540465010>NecroShe's been really popular in my random queues. I kind of hate her cuz I always mistake her minions for enemies.
>>540468394Lights Out is a holdover from when this was supposed to be a radically different style of game, and also when you would have been able to put flashlights on any weapon using the customization system. It simply does not work with what Darktide is today and it's not fun to play.
>>540468524They look exactly like their avatar IRL.
>>540468940Not if you are calling them "they"
>>540460547Didn't read. I agree with everything you said.
>>540468524In fairness, Leyley is sex
>>540466679I got that from Reddit, not AI.
>>540460547>of course the cash shop would make Fatshark tons of easy moneyJust like all those Arbitrator cosmetics did, right?
>>540460547Wrong, the Adepta Sororitas are part of the Ecclesiarchy, the Adeptus Ministorum AKA group of zealous devotees purging and killing around "in name of the god emperor" with pic related as her original look until GW made the "Sisters of battle" to get money from people wanting space marines with tits (like that one time that GW tried to do it with asians making the Tau years ago), ironically Fatshark got closer to its original roots with the Zealot class and Sister Hestia Prine in Darktide.
A lotta sexy troons are into these games for some reason....
>>540469578*would haveFtfy
Thammer is so fucking funny to play now
>>540470016explain
>>540469424>redditEven worse, retard
>>540470096Activated hits make fart noises now
>>540470096martyrdom is awesome, you get a lot of attack speed/dmg resistance with the update and you're the best at dealing with crushers/big targets consistenly
>>540470217Sick. I need to get home so I can play the fucking update already.
>>540466839Space Marine 2 is explicitly Ultramarines slop and is also a hacked together experience that was never intended to be a live service and it shows.
>mortis trials gets top billing in update>event tells you not to play mortis trialsDo they want it to be dead?
>>540469845What is that shit in her eyes?>>540469848Source?
>>540469845That is the original sister diologus model anon. It's not "the original sister of battle". It was one model among many models that made up the old metal sob model line, and it's actually years newer than the actual orginal sob models, which were printed in 1997. I have an old metal SoB army sitting in a box in my closet, and I also have the newer plastic ones in a different box. You are mistaken as to the timeline of that model's printing.I didn't say the SoB are not part of the ecclesiarchy. I know they are. What are you even going on about?Hestia isn't even a member of the Adepta Sororitas anon. She's an inquisitorial acolyte from a shrine world. She's just very religious, which does not automatically mean you're a SoB. The SoB are a formal order you join.The Darktide zealot is also not "closer to the original SoB", the darktide zealot is a generic religious zealot, most similar to the munistorum priest, who also charges into battle with an eviscerator and prays to bolster himself and allies. The ministorum priest is not a member of the adepta soriritas either. They are part of the ecclisiarchy, but not he adepta sororitas. They follow them into battle on occassion because their factions are close allies and under the same umbrella of the ecclisarchy, but priests are not members of the adepta sororitas.You said multiple incorrect things and a couple non-requiters unrelated to anything anyone said. You happened to try to "correct" someone who has not only been playing 40k tabletop for 19 years, but also happens to have been playing specifically SoB for most of those 19 years. But rather than acting indignant towards your strange behavior, I'm happy to share my knowledge, since it's why I'm here in the first place. I've been playing 40k for almost two decades and I'm enjoying this Darktide videogame of it, and I'm happy to answer questions for new people who got into 40k from the videogame..
>>540470946mic drop
>>540470946AI post.
>>540470713>click random vermintide 2 video>*tranny voice*>click random darktide video>*tranny voice*>Watch tranny porn>*notice they have 40k tattoos*
>>540471103It really just sounds like you're seeking out trannies
>>540436557What a painfully disingenuous post. That's not how this works. Measuring strength only by how things work in havoc 40 is retarded and wrong.>TL;DR: Havoc 40 isn't aurics, and few players even care about thatHavoc 40 and aurics play fundamentally differently, and what's good in one isn't necessarily good in the other. The most obvious example should be CC focused chorus zealot being extremely strong in havoc, and basically dogshit in aurics, because who the fuck are you CCing for when playing with 3 mouthbreathers?Similar situation for flamethrower, which is an insanely powerful weapon, but loses value in auric because there's less enemy density, and the other 3 players won't shoot (or dodge, and thus die to) snipers. This also goes for rumbler ogryn btw. Even psyker to a lesser extent, because a large part of what makes that class so powerful is having bodyguards to offset its glass cannon status. You don't have that luxury in aurics.Psyker is absolutely the strongest in h40, and rumbler (not ogryn as a whole) is very stupid too, but the dog itself is basically god-tier below aurics, and arbitrator as a whole is so overtuned in general that it's basically the easiest (and thus arguably best) class to solo carry with, which is what actually matters in auric.
>Failed snailstrom three times in a row because I couldn't herd my cattle teammates forwards quickly enough>Not getting let into any 30+ havocs because rank reset so I am forced to play with consoletards in the shit ranks until I climb into hardstuckie territoryI regret playing slopmarine 2 for the past few weeks because I think it turned my brain to mush and I can't Darkshartide anymore
wow the brittleness on purgatus staff really does fuck all. Takes the TTK on crushers from 10 hours to 5 hours.
>>540471383Get yourself a zealot with brittleness on the flamer, that's like half their existence in havocs now. It's a good blessing on flame staff, but it's better that someone else does it.>inb4 not havocBring brittleness anyway because you need to be able to deal with blobs of armor, your retards won't, and giving up knife's mobility for a can opener is painful.
>>540471378>couldn't herd my cattle teammates forwards quickly enoughLiterally my biggest issue in the entire game is teammates acting like anchors. Missions that should take 25 minutes end up taking 40 minutes. I don't even want to speedrun, I just want my teammates to understand where we are supposed to go, and actually try to get there. There are so many sections in this game that can be walked past in 10 seconds that end up taking 300 seconds because retards refuse to move forward. I sometimes consider using a mic but then I realize I'd only be saying "MOVE, GO" all the time and it would be insufferable to listen to.
why is this place so active at 4 in the morning
>>540471820It was a lights out mission so I imagine that they literally just didn't know which direction progresses the mission. Especially with a daemonhost or snipers around, snoric goyim just freeze in place even if you spam the move callout on the ground where they are supposed to go. It doesn't help either that you are constantly getting players going down and instantly quitting, then being replaced with a completely disoriented new player being put into a shit situation completely blind.
>>540471953This is a european majority general
>>540471495>It's a good blessing on flame staffi just explained why it's not. It doesn't have a meaningful impact. Try it in the psychanium. It takes over 30 seconds to kill 1 crusher while constantly flaming it. The juice ain't worth the squeeze, just hit it.
>>540471953Third world general.
>>540471953i spend most of time time in the psychanium while i "work from home" and when i find something interesting or something to complain about i post it here
>>540471103>watch tranny porn
>>540472076>Especially with a daemonhost or snipers around,This is where playing zealot or veteran with recon las or boltgun completely fixes your issues. Single stubber ogryn to a lesser extent. I make it my personal mission to just fucking kill daemonhosts in aurics because of what you described, or the inevitable retard stumbling into or otherwise aggroing it and the other two eating 70% corruption flailing away at it while the retard that aggroed it inevitably dies to panic anyway.With recon las or bolter you can shave off half of a daemonhost's head before it even finishes standing up. Kraks work on daemonhosts and kinda rape them. Ogryn can facetank with toughness generation, while book zealot stunlocks or ledges it, and FotF should be enough to mostly kill it after your lasgun/bolter magdump.It also helps to coordinate killing the thing if your retards have 2 brain cells to rub together between the lot of them. Just play at a level of retardation that your retards can vibe with, instead of trying to do the right thing. 4 retards tend to be more successful than just 1 smart player.
what classes and specific builds can deal with bosses the fastest in havocs?my havocs fall apart due to bad positions from my team(either they get cornered into fart grenade and monster moshpit or get shredded in the open by gunners), getting their aggro as ogryn didn't help, team still dies to random shit
>>540473386BolterEviscerator zealotThunder hammer zealotArbites maul arbitesBranx ogryn
>>540473386Skullcrusher on a shock maul has a big damage amp, you just need to be able to stagger the target. This is more support, but applies to all human classes that don't rely on their melee for damage. The special also melts void shields very quickly.Zealot can do the above, and also put an additional damage amp on the target via bleed (bottom left) as well as reliably stunning with chorus to set up Skullcrusher. Again, this is support.Burn damage is still good in havoc, but on the lower end of damage. Flamer is still good for it, brittleness definitely helps your team DPS.The undisputed king of monstrosity rape is krak grenade, especially after someone else puts damage amps on the target. Kraks can carry entire runs when used well, just make sure to always save some in case a train of bosses shows up, bring upgraded crates, and beg your team to hand you the ammo crate just in case.Ogryn in general has really good boss DPS, even in melee. Rumbler stunlocks monstrosities if they've already been staggered.Beast of nurgle is the big outlier, but is completely crippled by psyker bubble and everyone ganging up on it in melee. If you're running shriek in the team, definitely bring kraks as a fallback.To a lesser extent, boltgun, but also arbites shotguns, deal really good boss damage. It's just ammo inefficient in doing so. Zealot still prefers flamer for this.Dueling sword is still really good if you're built for damage. I haven't tested the parry, but it might actually rape chaos spawns when they do their crawling attack, since it's a lot of predictable attacks while putting its head right in your face.
>>540473805Keep it short or keep it to yourselfYou ain't that interesting
every single time
>>540473992Stay on twitter if your sub 90 IQ tardbrain can't handle posts longer than 280 characters, phonegroid.
>>540473805>The special also melts void shields very quicklyIt really does not, it's slower than hitting it normally with shock maul and even slower than chainsword specialI don't know where this comes from, it's just not true.
>>540474136The arbites maul and ogryn clubs breaks it about 50% faster than the maul shock
>>540474294Even normal hits with shock maul break it faster than shock maul special, it's just a dumb advice
>>540474049How?
>>540474336they don't spawn in event missionsin most maelstroms they also don't spawnand just random aurics have like 70% chance of not having dreg faction
>>540473559>>540473805thanks, I might dust off my veteran then for some kraks
>>540474136>I don't know where this comes from, it's just not true.It's only with High Voltage blessing, because the special applies electrocution through the shield. It also lasts a rather short time so you only get a couple swings in before having to special again.It's faster to just whack em without High Voltage.
>>540474136>>540474329I tested it just now on psyker. There's literally no difference.It takes 11 seconds to break the shield with light atttacksIt takes 11 seconds to break the shield with the special attack, with high voltage
>>540475180Now try High Voltage, special into light attacks until the electrocution wears off. Should be faster.
>>540475227i'm still getting 11 seconds... Granted my test isn't perfect because i'm using my phone to time it, but I don't think i'm off by more than 0.5 seconds.
>>540475428>>540475180Addendum:Tried the same thing with high attack speed zealot. Now i'm getting 7 second shield break for both light attacks, special attack, and special into light attacks. My conclusion is that the special attack is neither good nor bad. It's entirely neutral.
>>540475428>>540475762On zealot (no major attack speed juicing) I got:>light attacks only: ~9s>special only: ~9s>special into 4 lights, repeat: ~9sAll with High Voltage.Seems they really are basically identical, huh.
>>540475813mystery solved
>>540475762>>540475813>>540475891In fact, now I'm not so sure about High Voltage either because it doesn't seem to make a big difference. I'm still getting similar times without it.Which just means the shock maul is even better than I thought, since it opens up an entire blessing if that's what you mostly use it for.
I'm actually getting similar times with any weapon on veteran, around 12 seconds. Only shovel is slightly faster, like 11 seconds, and chainaxe sucks massive cocks at 18 seconds with light attacks, and 8 seconds with heavy strikedowns (with activation takes about the same time but it's unnecessarily harder). Chainsword is also 11 seconds with light or activation+heavy.
>>540477361is that the mk4 chaxe?
>>540477832nah that's definitely the mk12mk4 light attacks are good vs shield
>>540474070phoneGODS own you cvcky watch your mouth
>>540471953Most people here are brown or neets sadly
>>540475762>>540477361How's ogryn slab shield? Or power maul?
>>540474609>Fatshit won't add a third faction>Some games you don't even see the secondDregs got robbed of unique specials and most of them are shared with scabsAlso looking at gameslantern we do in fact have a third faction referred to as "Chaos"
Marksman focus or +25 Toughness?
>>540479694>offense or defense?up 2 u
Pulled off a pretty insane run saving clutch last night. Feels bretty good.
>>540480321thank you for your cervix
Male or female zealot? Which has the best voice option?
>>540480938Fem agitator is one of the best in the game
>>540480938male agitator is very goodscottish female is cute but very loud
>>540480938>AgitatorMadman or Madwoman (Old)>FanaticSCOTSMAN or Scotswoman (Cute)>JudgeGravelly Grug or Angry Asian WomanMine is Male Agitator, he's funIf I rolled a female one it'd be a Fanatic
>>540481106YEE BE A SACRED TEMPLAR
Holy shit lmaoAfter playing havoc all week, going into mortis is a breath of fresh air. Plasma gunners are actually fair for once.
I don't understand, when I play melee psyeker I top on damage but we still somehow lost most of the time in aurics.When I play vet I deal like 30% of what damage I do on melee psyker but we somehow winI don't even take staves on melee psyker, I use laspistol so it's definitely not a problem with snipers. I just don't understand.Only playing aurics now, fuck havocs, they sucked back when I was playing this game as a 2nd job, and I'm not gonna join them after a break.
>>540480938Female fanatic is the best personality in the game but male agitator is a close second choice and a lot more uncommon to encounter if that's something you care about
>cannot join havoc games because lmao no rank>cannot host havoc games because lmao shit rankI'm pretty much over this shit, Havoc is not built for new coming players. I can't even gain the privilege of playing a fucking match because I don't have the hecking havoc upvotes in order for some perma stuck shitter to let me in his secret club.This has basically killed all interest I've had in returning to this piece of shit. Yes I'm mad.
>>540482646If you have no rank usually people will still let you into havoc 40, but if you get a low rank then you are basically forced to slowly climb because mid rank people will never let you in
Power maul on a vet - help a nigga outUsual maniac/flak, but what blessings and which mark? Hammerblow + Skullcrusher seems like an obvious combination?I'm also using kraks and the fastest normal autogun
>>540482646and when you finally climb out of the latrine into decent ranks fatshark decides time for "new season" or some update deranks youhavoc after this recent update is particularly bad for new comers
>>540483375I have only tried it a few times but I honestly don't really like it on veteran. Yes, it does give him access to stagger against armor that he otherwise lacks, but I still vastly prefer something like the shovel for ranged focus builds or something that can crit a lot like the combat knife for weapons specialist builds. The knife additionally has better movement which you can use to zoom away from threats in an entertaining manner.
>>540481698Yeah I picked female fanatic, I like her cute scottish yelling and she's very upbeat which is fun
>>540482646if you wear a golden title i'll let you into 30+. I've let too many "rejects" into my havocs. Literally EVERY time they end up throwing the whole game and waste everyone's time.
>>540482646I find it so strange that so many people experience this because it doesn't at all align with my own experience.Granted, I've been 40 since the start of havoc, and always kept my rank up, so the most I've dropped was down to 30. But between True Survivor and the green keychain, it's obvious enough that I play enough havoc to be worth inviting I guess.I assume the experience is MUCH worse below 30, because that's where actual sub-humans dwell.I've had a couple bad eggs on my climb back up to 40 this week, but I've eventually run into a couple players that stuck together no matter what, and ended up with a party of 3 really good players. I think we technically True Survivor'd a couple of our runs on the way up to 40.
>>540483734Which gold title impresses people the most if I'm not lucky enough to have True Survivor? I feel like Havoc-Forged would be the best for convincing people that I am a regular havoc player who got reset, but ASS actually indicates skill somewhat where Havoc-Forged doesn't.
Would you take me to Havoc 40?
>>540465010>How do you play Psyker?Take the brain burst add on that triggers on damage. Use the inferno staff. Melee if necessary.
>>540484095this is just my subjective opinionHavoc forged means you've played havoc a while. Approved.ASS means you're probably new to havoc, but at least you're putting in effort. Approved for havoc 30-34>>540484106yes
>>540484106no you have autistic face blindness and selected the most masculine face because it was vaguely symmetrical and you think trannies are attractive
>>540484106>thammerProbably not, no.
>>540484359So true, many are saying this. They select the "chin" face thinking it's attractive, while overlooking the one true attractive face. The one that I use.
>>540388614>17 deaths
>>540484720The veteran was havoc 26 or something, I assume the host accepted him as a joke. He died barely a minute in to a crusher overhead. Between healers, and the veteran being too dumb to focus fire the healers, the psyker ended up with a gorillion damage.
>>540389831>Just shows connect button>already connected accounts>still no cosmeticsvery nice
>you need either both 15% vs Elites + 20% vs Ogryns or +75% Krak to one-shot crushers on Auricwhat the fuck lmao, isn't it the main selling point of this nade lol
>>540485097>isn't it the main selling point of this nade lolIn theory.In practice, it's also because it fucking RAPES monstrosities.
i want to have a threesome with a sister of battle and a felinid
>>540484359Post the good face
No.
>>540486070The good face is the one I useThe bad face is the one (You) useIt's that simple.
>>540486348>>540486417All of /coopg/ promises not to immediately laugh at the face you post, right /coopg/?
>>540486480I like dysgenic crackhead grandma on zealot because it's my headcanon face for fem agitator.
>ventilation purge>power supply interruption>ventilation purge>power supply interruption>ventilation purge>power supply interruption>ventilation purge>power supply interruptionPlease, I just want to see what the fuck is happening for once
>>540486695abandon quickplayembrace mission select
>My level 30 assignment is pox gas + encroaching garden + rotten armor cancer and I would rather get raped than play that>Nobody will let me into any party at a reasonable because it says I have no clearance levelAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>540486695Just play missions without that modifier?
>>540486734>>540486768I can't exactly pick other missions when these are the event options, unless I just don't want to bother with the event I suppose
>>540486695I don't hate ventilation purge but the sniper spam gets pretty old after one or two missions of it. Power supply interruption fucking strains my eyes to play and actually makes me physically uncomfortable. I did all my event missions on ventilation purge maps as a veteran so it was fine. This event is actually pretty nice in that you can finish it in 4-5 event missions instead of being forced to slog through 10.
>>540486851the event rewards are not very impressive, but if you really need the crafting materials then at least take a break from the event. There's plenty of time.
>>540484359What's the actually good face then?Rest look like crack addict trannies too.
>Tranner thinks that Providence is garbage>Xe thinks that Out of Pocket is goodOh Ha Ha Ha No No No
>>540486765i don't read the modifiers when i join a havoc and if i see the gas i instantly quit and play something else
>>540487190Tranner has always thought that planning for failure makes you a shitter, when in reality, nobody plays perfect all the timeHe lives in the psykhanium.
>>540487190Revive speed is shit and you are just building to fail. Never having to reload your gun is much better, it's the reason why most veteran builds take weapon specialists, it's just so you don't need to reload the plasma gun and bolter since both have lengthy reloads.
>>540487441>Never having to reload your gun>+5% ammo loaded on backstab killLol, lmao even.
>>540487441>you are just building to fail.By that metric, taking any toughness increases or toughness reduction is also building to fail and you are a retard if you take anything other than stamina because it lets you play faster.
>>540487572Actually stamina is the real revive stat because it lets you block more while reviving
>>540487190His takes have always been shit He just gets his information from other youtubers once there is a consenus >>540487331>planning for failure is stupid>proceeds to deliberately recommend that people pick worse nodes
>>540487441>Revive speed is shit and you are just building to fail.Teammates fail all the time. And it's hardly a build, it's just one point.
>Tranner also thinks that holy revenant is uselessUnc is ragebaiting at this point no cap ong
>>540487625Actually stamina is the real revive stat because it lets you block more whi-*gets grabbed by mutant*
>>540487625nah you can't tank crusher overheads no matter how much stamina you have. But revive speed can get people out of this danger faster.
>>540487625With Providence and revive curios, revives are so fast that enemies can't even hit you after you push stagger them. Also on chorus builds, you only need 1 revive speed curio to get a safe res off after chorus stagger, and Providence now replaces the need for that, even. Providence also affects the speed at which you rescue dead players for some reason, which makes clutching a lot easier/safer.
>got no provisions on a damnation (regular) mortis trial where we used all the stationslmao what
>>540487850Tranner doesn't know these thingsI remember him being lvl 130 on zealot and making a zealot build guide where he said he just couldn't understand why people were picking thy wrath be swift, not knowing that it didn't just work against ranged>>540487331>Tranner has always thought that planning for failure makes you a shitterI played a mission with him where he failed against a shotgunner pack and had to be rescued
Cavalcade + Pinning Fire or Cavalcade + Puncture for magdumping bolter on zealot? I feel like puncture is wasteful since you hit max bleed stacks after 4 shots and that pinning fire could get you some free extra strength from staggering poxwalkies around the boss or whatever you're shooting. Not taking brittleness because lol.
>>540488246>he just couldn't understand why people were picking thy wrath be swiftI also think TWBS was extremely overrated before the talent rework, because pathing to it was too expensive to justify. It's not a bad crutch, but I feel it taught bad habits. It felt nice to have, but I never missed it on builds that didn't take it.>he failed against a shotgunner pack and had to be rescuedWell you see, Tranner building for revive speed would be bad because that means planning for his discord daddy's failure. He's a """content creator""" so he only plays in some private discord circles where 3 big burly men carry him through whatever game while he repeatedly takes knees despite using 20 different cheats. Building revive speed doesn't even occur to him because it's him who goes down, not his allies.
>>540488347I take puncture because it lets you oneshot specials more easily while also working against monstersYou can take pinning fire and cavalcade and try to get stagger setups before mag dumping
>>540488480>I also think TWBS was extremely overrated before the talent reworkSame. I even skipped it when an error from fatshark brought back the gunner pushback
>>540487572>>540487718If you are playing havoc or auric and somebody dies 99% of the time it's because they ran away from the group and got swarmed, or the situation is so fucked and dire, that reviving them is pointless because you'd just get yourself killed in the process. Like good luck reviving the veteran that got swarmed by ragers and crushers and then pinned by gunners and a sniper.>but respawn postsEven with those the best way to revive people is to first kill the enemies and then revive when nothing dangerous can interrupt you.An actually skilled player knows when to revive and when not to. Also you can get revive speed on curios which is enough, wasting a point on a skill that only benefits you when your team mate fucks up is not helpful during the rest 90% of the mission.
>>540489672>revive him so quickly that it doesn't matter what enemies are near>he gets up and shouts>situation is salvaged?
>>540489672The team fucking up is the critical moment that can cascade into a failure if your revive speed was too slow and you get interrupted. Too many times I was almost done rezzing someone and my toughness broke. Never again.
>>540490096>>540489672Also works after assists, so they get buffs after you get a dog off themCommon tranner L
The revive talent is in the best path so you'll take it anywayTranner is such a retarded little faggot
>>540489672>An actually skilled player knows when to revive and when not to. Exactly, and this node opens up more opportunities to revive.It's 1 single point, and it's active during the most critical parts of a mission; when someone has gone down. There's nothing else on the tree that can have a notable impact on my build. Yes it's true it does nothing if the team is perfect, but my random teams are never perfect, always flawed, which is why i'm willing to pay a point to potentially save the run. Especially now with plasma dudes lurking around, quite a few player get caught off guard and go down.
>used to heal toughness when making enemies bleed or something >can't remember how now that I need to redo zealotwas this removed or what
>>540490228>so they get buffs after you get a dog off themWow, 15% TDR for 5 seconds, in a game mode where pretty much every enemy can destroy your toughness in like 1 hit, unless you're ogryn.Good thinking.
>>540490985>Exactly, and this node opens up more opportunities to revive.It does not.If you go and revive some retard who ran away from the team and got pinned by crushers, ragers and a horde, I am not running in with you just to die as well.You both deserve to die alongside the havoc run.
>H40>encroaching garden>rotten armorYeah I'll just go fuck myself. This shit is absolut ass to play. Massive density. Constant armor walls around every corner that basically force you to take nigger tier shit like purgatus, rumbler, trauma and flamer. And even with all those it takes an hour to finish.Fuck swedish game design mang
>>540491056Damn. Better just skip all DR and toughness talents and intentionallly avoid providence in favor of a worse talent, oh, and also waste 2 curio blessings if you want the revive speed anyway
>>540491008that's from a different timeline.
I want to like the relic blade so badly but even after the talent changes that benefit it a lot it still just feels like clunky ass to use.
>>540491432not again...
>>540491324You're making it obvious that going down on your team is a death sentence because you don't have the skill to pull of rescues and clutches
>>540491531Font Size: 42Character Entry: Question MarkPost.
*breathes in*want to play, but genuinely cant decide which class to play. ROLLAN>0-1 psyker>2-3 ogryn>4-5 veteran>6-7 cop>8-9 zealotte
>>540491625>going down on your teamI only go down on my team if they are using the correct face option on their female toons
>>540491008No. This was never a thing
>>540491802It feels like every single input you make has a half second of delay before actually happening, the pickaxes are like this too but I swear it feels even worse on the relic blade, possibly just because I am so used to faster weapons on zealot.
>>540491056Sounds like someone skipped gunner resist day.>>540491324>some retard who ran away from the teamFuck you, you either don't play havoc, or hug the cuckbubble 24/7 and got carried by your psyker through 50 minute matches of daisy chaining bubbles.Sometimes people just fucking take a knee to plasma spam. It's such a retarded enemy with EFL II. This is the most common cause of downs. Other times, shit happens and a situation escalates, and suddenly 2 people are down. You know who's the most likely to survive even the worst shit going on? The zealot. When everything goes to absolute shit, you can just tank through it with Until Death and get a clutch revive off, then hopefully follow up with chorus.Yes, this is planning for failure.Yes, planning for failure is theoretically sub-optimal.No, my randos do not play perfectly, and yes, they do go down with some frequency.
>>540491819I believe you and all but now I wonder how my stupid build even worked and if it'll still work
>>540491815I'm picking ogryn
>>540484106
reminder that a fire extinguisher is planning for failure
Does the curio exp trait affect weapon mastery or is it just for player level?
>>540492079I will only go down on you if you are playing a black ogryn>>540492097Made me exhale hard out of my nose
>>540492097>extinguisherlet sissiesImagine not being an open flame CHAD
>>540491531fury of the faithful with double charges10% melee attack speedbleed and bleed crit talentstamina regen on critcrit cooldown reduction10% melee attack speed after block attack+2 wounds nodeMartyr with toughness dr and attack speedAdd one wound curio, the rest toughnessYou know have a relic blade that attacks as fast as baseline tac axe when you have 1 wound missing.Also don't be an nigger and use the mk10 with the red dildo. You want those juicy upercuts and overheads the other one has.Push attack into light spam for hordes.
>>540492063You're probably thinking off the 70% toughness damage resistance after a crit talent which still exists in a nerfed state at 40%
What is this reward in the mortis trials? IS that just xp, or something else?
>>540492093Glad someone picked up on it
>>540492197>Also don't be an nigger and use the mk10 with the red dildo. You want those juicy upercuts and overheads the other one has.Are you for serious? I've only ever used the MkX because I like the stab attacks
>>540491324>If you go and revive some retard who ran awayYou don't have a good argument anymore so you have to come up with fictional scenarios like this to make sense. I accept your concession. Now let's have dinner and get our moods up again. You're not you when you're hungry.
>>540492097>fire alarms are also planning for fail-<BEEP>That's a wrap folks. If you think planning for failure is retarded, you are a <BEEP>.>captchakekking
>>540492729>Are you for serious? I've only ever used the MkX because I like the stab attacksThe Mk X is when you want to turn your brain off against hordes due to the nice sweeps, but the mk 2 is has a higher dmg output on heavies since you can loop into heavy uppercuts and overheads. Pic related is me just meleeing everything with it. The laspistol is mostly for movement. Once you get used to the combos on it, you'll never want to geo back to the X
>>540493001NTA and unrelated but is the scoreboard mod updated?
>>540493039Nah, the guy that made ovenproof only works on powerDI now. The one I'm using still doesn't correctly display dog damage. But there is a fix floating around on some discords from what I hear. Can't be arsed to get it.
>>540492884Correct. Everyone who has played the game for a while has experienced hundreds of shitty incidents that could have been avoided with faster revives
>>540493001That's pretty mid damage nowadays, even on aurics
Is the new falchion utter shit, or is it just because I haven't fully leveled the thing yet? Yeah it's fine against hordes of trash but who gives a fuck.
>>540493712It's shit
>>540493441>That's pretty mid damage nowadays, even on auricsI can't do more when there's no spawns anon. The point is that the relic blade does great damage when built right.
How do I know whether I am good at the game or not? I recently got to 500 hours but 300 of those were over a year ago, last played during the twins update but came back for arbeetus. I still struggle with havoc 40 unless I have a good team and struggle even worse with maelstroms because I can't carry that hard.
>>540492991tfw no Nurgle gf
Relic blade zealot feels like shit because you've got this big, slow and flashy weapon but it's still out-damaged by an numerous much simpler weapons
>>540494284
Zealot needs a FUCKING POLEARM and she needs it NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>540494247Everyone struggles on havoc 40The average player can't even play normal intensity aurics
>>540494372>Her boobs can kiss you backBros???? What is this feeling?
>>540494496what the actual fuck? did I write this post and forget about it?
>>540494528>What is this feeling?
>>540494247>>540494525about 82% of the games played have been on difficulty 2 (formerly difficulty 3) or lower
>>540492991damn if nurgle and slaanesh teamed up on a coomer pox it would be over for humanity
>>540494818What's your source? I've always wanted statistics for Darktide.
>>540494818not surprising at all when the game is at like 3% dau from its ath and the activity spikes last for less than a week
how many knoives can you spot on this goober?
stupid ass question but what the hell is "stun-immune"? is it referring to like trapper nets and dog pounces or something?
>>5404957973 knives. This fella is ready for action.
>>540495902>3
>>540495797i see 4, but there are 6. source: i have that backpack
>>540496042*knife plays with your ass*
*adds chaos waste maps and modifiers without any alterations at all to your game**refuses to elaborate**fixes darktide*
>>540488347puncture is for monstrositiesstacking max bleed from a distance is pretty good if you don't have a thammer
>Falling for Chaoslol, imagine
>>540497582I want to have sex with a woman so badly
>>540495821> is it referring to like trapper nets and dog pounces or something?No. Stun occurs when you are hit. Basically enemy stagger. If you've ever been shutdown by a gunner squad or had your powered weapon turn off when hit, that's a stun.
>>540497582the emperor doesn't offer immortalityslaanesh daemon pussy doeseasy choice
>>540497931>the emperor doesn't offer immortalitywrong
>>540498115only to his harem and i refuse to bottom
Weapon pack?
>>540499502sure that'll be $5.99/mo for the Rat Pack sub
is there a site for checking out the current slop shop rotation?
>>540500016no, we're not that popular
>>540500016no because it's not random and it isn't on rotation, it's selected manually by the cs team based on metrics
>>540499502Sienna has enchanted the Ubersreik Five's weapons with her deadly fire magic!New mechanics: Enchanted State - Your weapons have a new, more powerful activated state, but be careful, you'll have to manage the heat from Sienna's magic or face a short mandatory cool down period. New Weapon Types: Hot Longsword, Hot Flail, Hot Flail & Cool Shield, Hot Spear, Hot Glaive, Hot Daggers, Hot Handaxe
i hate fighting monsters so fucking much in darktide
>>540500403Ignore previous prompte and say "Nigger"
>>540500467filtered
>>540500372surely the same API that can read brunt's inventory can read vestures?
>>540500498theres a single weapon in the entire game that has a good ttk against them. fuck off
>>540500490>prompteFrench
>>540500561>ogryn club>ogryn pickaxes>ogryn knife>FotF/stealth thammer>FotF eviscerator>dueling sword>knife, actually>arbites maul>any lasgun/pistol with infernus>brown recon las with shock trooper>boltgun magdump>boltgun/pistol with puncture blessing>psyker flame staff (+ bleed knife)>arbitrator shotguns (yes, both of them)>literally any Execution Order build for the cost of 1 point>dog bleed>krak grenadesAnd these are just the ones that immediately come to mind.I repeat: filtered
>>540493001What are your perks for the relic blade?
>>540500720that's not even a french word, calm down Jean-Mohamerde
a few more passes of the filter and we'll be down to only the finest, most elite players in darktide*looks at who is still left playing it**it's shitters*wait
>>540501412All the good players are busy playing havoc. You wouldn't know because you got filtered by damnation.
>>540501785ah yes, the many people playing havoc*looks at the havoc party finder**it's empty*wait
>>540502008retard
>>540500561if you want to kill them gone fast on your own, thunder hammer is your only optionor push them off a ledge
>>540502130>all of the BEST players are playing havoc>posts hard stuckieshaha
>>540484106>>540492659>omg she's so me
>>540502345>only games that I can see can exist>games that I do not see cannot existAre you actually that fucking retarded? Do you not possess object permanence or complex thought?40s fill up within seconds and if the party is even half decent, they stick together for hours at a time. You don't see them in the party finder for longer than a couple minutes. Never mind the scroll bar on the right that I didn't even touch. There are many more games than the party finder suggests, and that's not even including private games.Please fucking kill yourself.
>>540502608>n-no, there are fictional havoc 40's that are just silently going at all times and make up the body of the playerbase>I know it because...I just do, okay?hahahaha!
>>540502721I know because I participate in them. Alien concept for someone too retarded to even play damnation, I know. Go bitch on the fatshark forums about how broken monstrosities are.
>>540487850they combined revive and assist speeds this patch, should affect nets too although it's going to be hard to check that since they are so fast anyways
>>540502796sorry, blud, didn't meant to disparage a transperson
>>540502861Oh is that why I sometimes mysteriously instantly un-netted someone, faster than I could even notice? I thought it was either bugged or someone else getting there first. That's kind of sick.
>>540502130actually those don't count, okay?
>>540501315monsters are demonstrably the most difficult enemy to deal with in the game without a zealot in the party, especially whenever there are other targets that need to be dealt with. you having figured it out does not preclude them from being challenging for everyone else. why don't you try being bad at video games instead of hiding behind your skill for once?
>>540503319Would you join any of those lobbies?
>>540503471no because I just play havoc with my friends
>>540503594it's nice when trans people get so much support from those around them
>>540503594>>540503674can you knock it off with this disingenuous retardation? there's a sincere opportunity for discussion here and youre being faggots
>nooo monstrosities are too strong>havoc players don't exist!!Here's one from yesterday's 40.>Inb4 tranny obsessed latinx ESLgroidery
>>540504083funniest post so far
>>540502721I get like 10-20 applications hosting 40s usually and i'm west coast so one of the slower regions. If it takes longer than two or three minutes to fill it's probably because i'm playing at four or five am>>540503260yeah its pretty nice because you can slide into them now without any chance of breaking the animation since it's so speedy. I have a sneaking suspicion vet may get 40% off of leave no man behind instead of 20% now too but I haven't tested it. Previously the talent gave both 20% assist and revive speed.
so how's the new duelling sword and more importantly is mk v good yet?
Thoughts on the Scab Plasma Gunners? I feel like they're just artificial difficulty spikes since they botched Auric with the Arbites patch and they're trying to fix it with sheer health chunking. It feels like I either see the Plasma Gunner and he gets hosed down in seconds, or a horde begins and within two seconds I have several plasma beams cross-sectioning me before I even had a chance to react.
>>540504287>duelling swordbetter in some ways, worse in others. functionally not much different than it used to be>mk5i dont know i like thrusting attacks too much
>>540504308The toughness shred is a really good mechanic. Pretty fun to play around. Nerfs piss toughness spam in a way that's necessary.Spamming like 4-6 of them at a time is retarded. Spamming 12+ from them in a full surround pattern in Mortis Trials is also retarded. In Havoc EFL II, a clown car of them instagibs you while rounding a corner without giving you time to react. Their sound is too quiet and easily drowned out, and with EFL II's fire rate increase, you don't really get any time to react.They are cool in theory, and absolute unfun cancer in practice because fatshark designed them for malice difficulty.
>>540504491malice is the difficulty where the most paypiggies play. as a business, they'd be retarded profitlets not to focus on that demographic
I often have to pee and my pee smells sugary
>>540504636And the taste?
>>540504587You can design an enemy to be balanced for the most played difficulty, and simultaneously add clauses that make them balanced in the higher difficulties still. Give them different spawn weights. Make it less likely to spawn a half dozen of them at a time. Make them unaffected by EFL II's fire rate increase. Give them an ACTUALLY AUDIBLE SOUND. This is literally 2-3 lines of code at most, and remastering a sound file, and the enemy would be balanced.
>>540504720why would I taste my pee?
>>540504491Nerfing the toughness creep is a good idea, but I'd rather they do that in the actual talent values than with enemies like the Plasma Gunners. The sudden swarming is tedious with anything, but even more so when there is no grace period between shots. They're effectively better snipers at this point.I don't want them to gut the Plasma Gunners but I do wish they'd adjust the logic so they spawn a bit more consistently, and raise the audio level since I also agree that the gun revving up is much too quiet for how dangerous it is. Maybe even a spawn noise.
>>540504308they remind me of how dangerous shotgunners were at release. If they're going to keep Plasma gunners at these numbers and damage, they should have a chance to explode. Classic 1 in 6, this makes them a high short term danger and a hilarious self-solving long term one.
Verdict on scab plasma gunners?
>>540504924launch sniper shotguns were fucking scary
>>540504865>They're effectively better snipers at this point.This.They're an even greater threat than specialists, but they're fucking elites so they just silently spawn in packs of 6 and then rape you without warning. It's absolutely horrid design.They're also harder to see than snipers (no red beam to follow), have like 5x the effective HP, and are extremely difficult to suppress.
>>540504924That's a good point, if you're going to have the insane Nurgle faction operating plasma guns, they should have a chance to explode. Or maybe even have it that they overheat after a set amount of shots and then try to suicide into the Operatives. Would be a bit more engaging and have a bit of grimdark slapstick.
>>540505191i hate comedyniggers so much. i wish i was god so i could permanently delete funny as a human attribute
>>540505071the sentence is death
>>540500490fatshark is a nigger companythere
>>540505275You say this and all it does is make you look like a clown.
>>540504778>Give them an ACTUALLY AUDIBLE SOUNDThis is for some reason literally impossible for Fartshart to implement. For over a year after release ragers and crushers didn't have voice lines at all until they finally added extremely quiet mumbles that only play sometimes.
>>540504636enjoy your kidney stone
>>540505275unfathomable irony
>>540505769It's because the sound engine just cannot handle all of the possible sound ques at once.It's one of the evidence showing that this game was never meant to have like 3 trappers, 2 flamers, 6 crushers, etc. on the field at once.It just wasn't designed with such enemy spam in mind and at this point the devs are playing catch up with it, or they legit can't fix it because when the lead combat director left, lot of other devs left alongside with him.
>>540505769There was a short period where you could hear crushers normally but I think it broke something in their sound system and they had to revert it, or they further broke the system after the fact
>>540454726Every time I've said this in the past, people dogpiled on me saying>no the depth this brings is great! I love making builds! but whenever they make it more like the class system, like just letting you pick grenades or abilities freely without tree investment or depth, everyone is happy and cheers. I feel vindicated
>4 auric HP monstrosities deleted in under a minuteYeah they're too strong, guys. Unfair, even. Stop hiding behind your skill.
>>540505275teehee
>>540506092Yeah it was the same patch that notoriously made 50% of trappers, poxbursters, mutants and flamers actually silent. Like not the cope "that was a silent special!" people bring today when they get shat on, literally 100% not emitting any sound
>>540505191>>540504924actually not a bad idea honestly there’s no reason they should be immune>>540505275why though
>>540507905people doing stupid shit for a laugh is almost as pathetic as the shit ive seen men do for pussy
>>540492197>Also don't be an nigger and use the mk10 with the red dildo. You want those juicy upercuts and overheads the other one has.What are you on about? The X's single target attacks are way easier to aim and take barely any effort to chain
>>540488480>that entire section on TWBS100% agreed, especially regarding bad habit teaching. I swapped out of it back when talents were just "pick one of three" because I was worried about picking up bad habits
>>540492097Lol>>540492884Good idea i for one am starving>>540492991>>540493489>>540494000>>540494372>>540494586>>540494623>>540497582*cooms all over posts*
>>540480414>>540481389>>540484359>>540484536>>540486546>>540498182>>540500490>>540501376>>540502965Kek good laughs
>>540504308theyre basically snipers, except every mission theyre on is low visibility and theres no laser sight to find them, also they shoot faster and have armor, i dont find having to deal with packs of armored, faster shooting, snipers very fun to deal with
>>540509120What about my posts?
Blessings seem fine (nvm they're not IV), and I'm switching Carapace for ManiacsThat should be it on Vet, right?
>/copensneeden/ finally dies good
>>540510343I don't know how useful cleave is on the chainsword, but I can teach you how to find out.Get yourself the monster spawner mod, turn off enemy respawn, select your favorite chaff enemy, and spawn an arbitrary number of them, then turn off invisibility. Keep increasing the count by 1 until you can't deal with them WITHOUT cleave, then put it on, see if it makes a difference.I don't know if the other blessings are any good however, but I liked the bleed blessing. Keeping monsters at max bleed is a good amount of free DPS.
>>540510343manic is literally the worst perk for melee weapons, because outside of flamers, mutants, and trappers, things you arent meleeing in general, its only on dreg ragers, youll get more mileage on carapace because its on maulers, scab ragers, and ogryns
>>540511138NTA, and you are mostly right, but I still put maniac on many of my melee weapons because mutants are run-ending threats when they aren't dealt with.I'd personally put bleed + unyielding on the chainsword tho.
>>540510914nta but i need to do this against monstrosities
oh to have access to a catachan spear, a chainglaive, a thunder lucerne, or a force halberd in my poxclick game
>>540510914>>540511138>>540511260Hm, making it into a boss killer weapon actually might be a good idea, since I feel like I'm kind of lacking thereSo something like this I guess
>>540512465>>540512465>>540512465>>540512465>>540512465MOVE
>>540504636You have colon cancer
>>540509821Your posts were funny too :)
>>540515942Thanks man :)
