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Veteran's back, baby! Edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>540302024

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
Feast of Grimnir and patch 6.7.1 patch notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/feast-of-grimnir-double-xp-limited-time-event-out-now/111969

Darktide:
Bound by Duty - Free Update Out Now
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/bound-by-duty-free-update-out-now/112661

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3:
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Space (formerly Jump Ship) - Early Access 19 September 2025
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA
Daimon Blades - Early Access 3 September 2025


Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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First for Elf love and appreciation.
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Thoughts on my NEW boss killa weapon?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbYofaFCvzM
why do they release event trailers way after the event has started?
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>>540513017
It's alright against bosses, but doesn't really kill them on its own. I suggest you still bring an infernus lasgun/pistol or kraks. Probably kraks since this isn't amazing against crushers, but maybe you're rending/brittleness pilled.
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>>540513060
>why do they release event trailers way after the event has started?
Because they're actually that mismanaged and incompetent. Fatshark are R E T A R D E D as FUCK.
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when do we get out plasma pistol that's already in the game?
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>>540513017
Veteran has easy access to his bleed talent now, Bloodletter is less necessary for monsters. Still useful for bleed tapping bulwark/reapers though. Shred optionally for more direct damage.
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Where do we get out mods now that nexus is unusable?
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>>540513606
How is nexus unusable?
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>>540513345
fatshark promised it would come this december!
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Combination guns when?
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plasma gunner spam made this game unplayable. See you in another year.
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>>540519273
This made me think of a silly idea for a DLC class that fagshart is too fucking incompetent to code so it'll never, ever happen
>capstone that automatically dual wields any one-handed weapons
>left sub-node allows dual wielding melee + ranged
>right sub-node allows dual wielding the same weapon on each slot, with a slight damage penalty to balance shit like dual bolt pistol
Unfortunately this would require putting in actual work, so it's never happening. Instead we'll get another amalgamation of reused mechanics that has +1 unique feature, is broken on release (immediately before vacation) and takes 4-5 hotfixes to get into a functional state.
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>>540513060
Look at the recent hotfix list. No way in hell FatShark is that responsive or productive. They were gonna delay the patch until Barktidegate, I bet. If so, we got some shitty internal build.
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>>540519571
Is it really THAT bad? I mean I always thought it sounded like a bad idea but I’ll probably just not boot it up if I’m going to be blasted in the face from a mile away now.
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>>540520418
The event spawns a lot of them, and all are conditions that make it hard to see, and they're basically heavily armored snipers without a red beam that are also heavily resistant to suppression. Make of that what you will.
I think they're fine in regular aurics, and I don't struggle in low vision modifiers, but when mortis spawns 12 of them in a perfect surround pattern you can't take cover from, or havoc spawns a clown car of them that charges their shots before they round a corner to instagib you without any time to react, it gets very retarded.
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>>540520418
imagine packs of tougher, armored, faster firing, no laser sight, silent, snipers, in low visibility, thats the event, its just packs of plasma and vent purge or lights out, also captains spawning too, theres usually like 4 per mission
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>Female Cadian with Shout joins
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>>540521621
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>So many "pros" struggling because can't cheese with dueling sword anymore and never lever learned to dodge a shot
lol
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>>540519571
Let me guess, you gameplay was afk with Ogryn or Arbiter in the mission until now right?
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>>540522047
>>So many "pros" struggling because can't cheese with dueling sword anymore
The DS nerf means nothing because the devs reworked the skilltrees which buffed all the last 3 classes a lot.
Also the parry mechanic they gave to the DS is better than the riposte because now you have an extremely strong sword that punches through carapace and which also makes you fucking unkillable as long as you time the parry correctly.

People who are struggling with the new dueling sword are just bad at the game.
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Does anyone know good low spec games? I wanna play some coop games with my brother that lives abroad but he only has a laptop and is far from good, we are talking shit like castle crasher of low specs.
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>>540522795
drg should be fine
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CURVED. SWORDS.
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>enjoy new psyker for a bit
>enjoy new vet for a bit
>enjoy new zealot for a bit
>go back to ogryn
>mfw the new power maul explosion
HOOOOOLY SHIT that bad boi is a fucking NADE on a 15 second cooldown that deletes/staggers ANY KIND OF CRITICAL BIOMASS, hot dayum
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>>540522795
Older games that might work if you dial them down a notch;
Orcs Must Die 2
Trine
Gauntlet

There are also some config guides to convert the vermintide games to potato mode, but it that might still be too heavy.
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Does Arbites start at 30? Only thing holding me back from buying it is having to grind out levels again.
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why dont the plasma gunners just function like the captains? captain plasma shots are very audible, have a bright muzzle flash and need a good amount of charge up time. plasma gunners just go pshzoom pshzoom pshzoom. they shoot way too fast
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>>540525609
you will need to level ye
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>>540526250
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>maelstrom
>hab dreyko extract
>2 players out of ammo
>psygger saving the ammo crate for next mission
>endless onslaught of enemies, a fuckload of flamers
>nobody can deal with the ranged enemies because our FUCKING GUNS ARE EMPTY
>psygger doesn't fucking shoot them either
>waits an entire minute to deploy the ammo crate
>IN FRONT OF AN INCOMING WAVE OF BULWARKS
>we are pushed back out of the ammo crate and spend another minute even pushing forward into it
white text
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>>540523180
>enjoy new zealot
>get bored because funny bonk build is hard to play in this event
>enjoy new psyker
>get bored because nothing in his builds have changed except for his power level
>enjoy new vet
>get bored because every melee is power crept and meta got buffed
haven't tried ogryn yet but paul looks pretty fun
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>>540521621
LEDS GET TO DA KILLIN
FER CREED
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>>540527019
Been playing psyker since this patch a lot, he's really fun.
I like fighting with the electro staff and greatsword. It's just fun.
Though I do wish they would buff the electro staff a bit since you constantly need to be fishing for crits with it to do any sort of damage. Like buff the range of the staff and buff damage so that you can reliably kill specials like trappers and flamers as well as medium elites like shotgunners and dreg ragers with it.
Also another good buff would be to make the "chain lightning" on the staff stronger, like there's the main target you zap but sometimes the it chains into another enemy but the damage on that is very weak.
I'd buff it so that after the initial enemy is zapped, the lightning jumps 3 enemies instead of just 1 enemy. And I'd buff the chain lightning's damage as well.
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>>540525609
Starting Arbites weapons are already very good so you're already strong if you have enough milkbux or enough money to just max out your masteries to get decent gear
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>>540525609
Early levels are easy so just speed run them. There's barely any enemies.
Once you get to heresy and damnation you can level up fast, also slap experiment bonus on your curios as soon as you get them.
Also run quickplay as well since it rewards you with 20% more experience.
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>>540521621
Her shout is just so lame compared to male CT
Not sure if the sound guy fucked her or if she actually half assed those lines
Could also be too strenuous a voice to keep up while shouting, which in that case I blame whoever casted her
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>>540525609
Once you have a basic tree that looks something like this (I assume you want the dog, the class basically plays itself. The horizontal spread shotgun is incredible, remember to use your special, and don't feel bad about just spamming it. Worst case scenario, it supercharges small ammo pickups. Best case scenario, you cripple a screen of ranged enemies or stop a crusher from mulching your resident retard.
I'd advise dropping points from the top and rushing down to the right keystone with its toughness regen, if you want an even easier time. Most of the damage is in the bottom of the tree, so your melee will feel a little weak until you get the good nodes, but the shotgun is borderline broken so just get used to playing ranged until you're in the 20s.
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Do we have any idea of if or when the 2014, aborted mission, bug might be patched in Darktide or how to possibly reduce the chance of it occurring? Had it happen at the end of a few missions and it's getting me a bit tilted
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>>540531923
>how to possibly reduce the chance of it occurring?
I personally don't get the error so I can't directly help. The best thing I can find is https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/84743 where the OP links to possible troubleshooting. Some of those things might be obvious and dumb, others might be more involved. I don't know whether any of this can help you, and I have my doubts because it's likely on fatshark's end, but I hope you can resolve it.
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>>540531923
pretty sure it existed since launch and it will remain forever
that counts as a loss in Havoc ranks btw
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>>540531923
Genuinely no idea. It feels entirely random.
Sometimes I get the error while trying to get into a mission and the mission board says 2014. But some other times the mission board gives error 9999 too.
Sometimes I get disconnected in a match and its shows 2014 error. But some other times I disconnect but there is no error message and I just reconnect, but while I'm loading inside the valkyrie the game gives me the 2014 error but nothing happens.
And then finally sometimes I even get the error when I'm just sitting character select afk for a bit and it just crashes the game.
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>>540522795
L4D2, DRG
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>>540532367
>>540532368
>>540532810
Appreciate the help. I've never had it happen this often so I've been doing a little bit of digging on my own and found similar responses.
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>>540531923
are you on console? Never had this happen on PC
if it's the actual mission being aborted maybe it's also a server issue? Are you in a weird region like oce?
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>>540533335
sad to say but no, DRG unfortunately is not low spec friendly
tried it couple of years on old crappy laptop(I was abroad for 6 months) with I3 and even on low resolution it was choppy, particle effects and geometry destruction stuff are taxing
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>>540527842
The female doesn’t say that does she?
>>540531923
>>540533448
It’ll probably be a thing forever. It’s an issue across all platforms too so it’s something on FS’s end that they’re fucking up.
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>>540522795
Alien Swarm is free and Source engine so it should run on potatoes.
Modded Minecraft might work, but I've never been autistic enough to mod it beyond some QoL enhancements like minimap and such.
Terraria might run okay on small resolutions.
Titan Quest has pretty good co-op, though that's more of a Diablo-2-like hack and slash. On which subject, Diablo 2 will definitely run. If you like the genre but neither of those games, try Torchlight 2.
I think the older Serious Sam games had multiplayer. Pretty good dumb fun.
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Playing after a 6 month break, anything I should know? Either going with shield ogryn or DS vet. Also I see havoc fart sniffing hasn't changed and can't get in any lobby 30+.
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>>540536652
>Ogryn
Pickaxe is meta fag pick, shockmaul the contrarian choice
>Vet
get your anti armor grenades on, "crushers could be" is no longer an uncertainty
>Drooling Sword
you're fag
say hello to new enemy and goodbye to your toughness
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>>540537085
>>540536652
bro 6 months ago was 1 patch ago, nothing changed significantly
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>>540519571
Wdym I'm 600/1500 into the penance already it's great
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>>540536652
plasma gunners rule the game now, the players are under their IRON FIST so prepare to KNEEL
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>>540519571
I dont mind them that much, groups of them can be hard to deal with though. Reminds me of old shotgunners where you dealt with them via positioning, and not via being an unkillable murderer that just wipes 20 of them in a split second.
Welcome to the powercreep leaving, try acquiring skill
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Anyone here play Outlast Trials?
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>>540538619
Yes. Why
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>>540537085
And how exactly does the plasma gunner make any difference to the vet with a DS compared to a normal gunner? Please, enlighten my feeble brain
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>>540539208
ignores gold toughness
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>>540539314
Then simply have more basic toughness, like a vet does.
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>>540539208
Clown car of pre-chraged plasma gunners spawn and nuke your hp into oblivion.
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>>540539314
So just dodge slide then?
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>>540539459
You're really trying too hard here.
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>>540539208
your neurons misfired
different sentence that has nothing to do with DS
new enemy can shoot you across the wall btw if it tracked you before you ducked behind cover
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>>540539459
>but I did have breakfast this morning
Excellent reply
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>>540539717
Oh yeah? what did you eat? dicks?

LMAAAAAAAAO YOU GOT REKTD
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>>540539717
>>540539895
YOU JUST GOT PWND SON!
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isdisgud
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>>540539717
>>540539895
>>540540342
KEK’D!4
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>>540540501
for lvl10-20, sure
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>>540539208
They're heavily armored snipers that you can't see, shoot you through walls, and apparently precharge their (really quiet windup that's basically inaudible) shot so pray that no more than 2 spawn at a time otherwise they instagib you.
Btw because they're heavily armored, you can't suppress them for shit unless your gun is a suppression BEAST. Also they have carapace heads. Enjoy.
They're fine in normal aurics, including the event, even if all the modifiers there are low vis. It's mortis and havoc where they become oppressive at best, and downright retarded bullshit at worst. In mortis, build for grenade shield spam. In havoc, build either for suppression or bring smokes. Bubble works okay, but not for very long.
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>>540539208
>>540521029
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Uh oh.. another vet who didn't take the survivalist aura...
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>>540547831
How the fuck do you even make that conscious decision with the new tree? Like how retarded do you have to be to feel the need to save 1 point to take fucking GRENADE TINKERER while skipping demo stockpile and grenadier.
SURELY that player pathed into Close and Kill ONLY to save points. SURELY, right?
God I am so fucking mad with how incredibly retarded darkshite players are, because what you said is believable even if it might be made up bullshit.
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>>540547831
My penances bro, dont complain unless its havoc.
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>>540548184
>not just farming penances in snoretis where everyone is so fucking broken nobody gives a fuck what you bring
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>>540547831
who fucking cares about that outside of high havocs
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>>540548153
>even if it might be made up bullshit.
it's not, but I play on the EU server after midnight.
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>>540548330
ty for the +5% dmg bro :,)
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>>540548517
I take the movement speed one as well as the movement speed minor node for fun with a chainsword with the movement speed blessing
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>>540539056
I'm looking for frens to play intensive and psychosurgery with.
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>>540512504
>claim one general OP
>all the replies are deleted
>now someone is instantly on top of making the next general at bump limit
what kind of discord faggotry are you faggots up to
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>540548517
heh ackshually this helps you hit the break point on crushers with my non-meta melee choice if my seven buffs are up and i'm with a zealot with fury on a full moon
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arbites as grimdark cops doesn't really feel right for the setting bros
i have a hard time believing in a universe where space marines hear a sneeze and purge a planet that the interstellar riot police refuse to use bladed weapons or flamethrowers
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>>540548313
Im confused, youre saying you struggle with aurics?
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>>540549162
Arbites are more like the FBI though, the actual police are the Enforcers but they were turning into skins for Darktide
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>>540522795
Coop factorio
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>>540549162
>where space marines hear a sneeze and purge a planet
that depends what you mean by “purge”
flamethrowers is kinda detrimental to their job considering the potential damage to infrastructure they could cause
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>>540549162
The imperium isn't as wasteful of resources as much as you TTS secondaries like to think.
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>>540548732
Ah. I’m on console but I think a few others here play too. Good luck
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>>540549162
Arbeetus are space FBI/IRS who are in charge of policing entire hive cities and making sure governors pay their space taxes. You can't interrogate/torture rebellious governors if you just straight up kill them or burn their palaces.
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>>540550038
its about their restraint not the space marines but go off king
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AHWHAHWAHWHAHWHAW
T-LEX, I'd name my dog that as an arbites but I wont because I dont wanna play them
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I hate how all of Sienna's staves look identical in the inventory.
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>>540554383
Good thing there are these things called words that you can use to tell them apart
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>>540554283
Lex-Offender is a good one too
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Anyone have that one image that explains how coherency works, got a new friend to play the game, but every fucking mechanic in this game is needlessly obtuse.
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>>540550087
I'm on console too. You can just add people with their in-game id code.
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I wish I could have the pgl and heavy autocannon with platform gun and grappling hook...
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Felinid update when?
>:3c
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speaking of funny names for the lex doggo
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>>540554383
Aren't the weapons in VT2 ordered alphabetically based on the type of the weapon?
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Warhammer: 40Kunny
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What does it smell like, /coopg/?
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>>540504636
You can't smell sugar in urine, you're likely smelling a substance that's in what you're eating or drinking. For instance, if you were to eat asparagus, your urine would smell worse than normal.

You are probably an unhealthy fatass though so you could stand to lose some weight.
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>>540566274
hadron's pits
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>>540554848
>>540565014
autism speaks
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reading is autistic, guys
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>>540561942
Really? I forgot about that. I’m a little distracted with other stuff atm but if you want you can give me your ID or whatever and I’ll try to send a request later
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>>540566780
>>>/lit/
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>>540566274
>smell of tertium
Probably gives you 5 different types of cancer when you inhale it
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>decided to play 1(ONE) Havoc before sleep
>sorry sweaty mission was aborted due to unexpected error :^ ) just before the end
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My tummy hurts, why would nurgle do this to me?
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does nurgle even love you if your dick doesn't hurt
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>>540570635
To test you, his strongest soldier
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>>540571071
But I shower semi-regularly...
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>you can no longer wait for other players in mortis trials lobby
ok what was the fucking point of this change?
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Fill me in on Arbites. Is it good? How do people usually play it? How did it land?
I'm currently leveling it and kinda turned off by how bad the weapon variety is.
Do people just run Lone Wolf + Castigate/BreaktheLine + Forceful and play like melee Ogryn? Is the dog just a gimmick?
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>>540574473
use our party finder
PLEASE
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Is the power sword abysmal dogshit now since it lost the crusher two-tap combo? Or is there some way to retain the combo now with the increased melee damage the veteran got?
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>>540577059
What a retarded question
Just 3 tap them instead
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>>540576647
the dog is good for solo play because it can knock off dogs and take out silent trappers in a crowd but yeah at high havocs i only see discount ogryns
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>>540576647
>Fill me in on Arbites. Is it good?
yes
>How do people usually play it?
Unga Bunga(Forceful). shock mines and loner for havocs, aurics you will see doggos lot more
>kinda turned off by how bad the weapon variety is.
you already have all that you need, your base shotgun is stupidly good and has good ammo economy if you bother to load special rounds and resupply with small packs
melee has good options too, your base shock maul can reduce armor on enemies with blessing, shield+maul is decent all rounder weapon
>Do people just run Lone Wolf + Castigate/BreaktheLine + Forceful and play like melee Ogryn?
and why not, your talents push you towards aggressive in your face playstyle with melee
execution order is great as well, getting constant marks on specials saves lives (30% extra damage on monstrosities doesn't hurt either)
>Is the dog just a gimmick?
not at all, really useful when you need to pick off snipers/specials or see teammate getting railed but you're busy with enemies
terminus warrant keystone is unfortunately on the shitty side of things
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>>540576647
it's ogryn but smol
and you don't have bleed on melee
and you don't have infinite cleave explosive ranged
but you have access to all human-sized weapons except lasguns, which means you can use bolter and bolt pistol
and you have stupid high hp+toughness pool, insane toughness regeneration (even more than ogryn, probably still more than new psyker), cheat nodes that gate damage, somehow more stagger than ogryn
dog used to do stupid bleed damage, now it only deals double bleed damage (which is still not exactly weak but it's a pain in the ass to use so nobody uses it anymore)
Dog is not a gimmick, it's can remove any human-sized enemy, like brainburst but instant activation. Plus if you aren't dumb enough to spec into dog keystone modifiers, it will guard you from rear hits and instantly free from mutant grabs.
>Do people just run Lone Wolf + Castigate/BreaktheLine + Forceful and play like melee Ogryn?
More or less, yeah. You take bolt pistol for gunners/snipers/shooters. Or you can take bolter to kill monstrosities fast.
I haven't played arbites in a long time and don't know if they fixed Execution Order (like half the tree wasn't even working when swedes went on vacation). According to patchnotes it was fixed, but I wouldn't trust swedes so easily.
Anyway, if Execution Order works, it's a better keystone in many situations. Generally, I'd say to go with EO for castigator's stance, and Forceful for BTL. Though any combination of abilities and keystones should work, except for the middle keystone, which is garbage.
BTL is better for melee and stagger, and CS is better for ranged, but isn't bad for melee either, you just go sicko mode and chop anything with no regard to incoming damage. Plus shield+mace has a stupid good special that shocks entire packs, and has lower cd than BTL, so if you want, you can have both castigator's stance and tons of stagger. But personally I prefer rashad with castigator's stance.
(1/2)
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>>540577567
What a retarded response
You can't do that since their HP pool was nearly doubled
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>>540576647
Arbites has ton of damage in the tree so don't get distracted by mediocre weapons selection, they are good with all the buffs. It makes shock maul good, and rashad overpowered. You stunlock crushers with rashad and down them in 2-3 hits, while oneshotting packs of chaff with light attacks with brutal momentum. I see little reason to take anything other than rashad or shield+mace combo, but arbites mace also has very high base damage, it just doesn't have brutal momentum.
And if you build a monstrosity killer, you want Execution Order for crits and monstrosity damage. And if you take EO, you want a dog.
Lone wolf is taken for blitz regen, not for the buffs. Shock mine is stupid good, so it's a no-brainer. You can take Shock mine + BTL + forceful + Lone Wolf + shield, take it to havoc 40 and just disable everything. You can deal no damage and still be viable (and you will still deal damage on top of it because arbites is stupid strong).
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>>540577059
is there anything better than power sword on veteran?
it can't be dogshit when everything else is worse
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>>540578627
I literally just did it in the psykhaniun, you dumb fuck
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>zealot still has no rending
Arbites is still the crusher (weapon) class
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Remember when for the first hour after the update came out people actually thought that executioner's stance was going to become usable? Attempting to use it is pure suffering because my teammates die instantly to plasma spam without piss toughness and you have no means of defending yourself when you get swarmed by ragers or armor blobs.
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>>540579762
Try shooting the plasma gunners
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>>540577623
>>540577863
>>540578515
>>540578880
Thanks for the responses shopclickers. I'll just end up playing him as an ungabunga tank like everyone else, because I prefer gun Ogryn anyway.
Now my only concern is which voice to use. I'm swapping off of Male Fatalist because he sounds exactly like the zealot's Male Agitator and it's bugging me
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Fatshark continues to make the game better and better for absolutely free, what a great company.
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>>540580440
if you play as female Arby
Fatalist is frog from BG3
Maul is Kerillian from Ratclicker
I prefer male Maul, clear voice when something dies and his delivery of
>I AM THE LEX
is on point
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>>540579749
>>zealot still has no rending
Fury of the faithful.
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>>540581495
Lol.......
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Maul Arbitrator is my wife. We stay up late memorizing the Lex Imperialis together every night. We're on book 80, chapter 67, verse 7 already. It's really cute when she falls asleep while we're studying and while she's dreaming she says "zzzz...I am the Lex...zzz...fear me Lexbreakers...zzz.....Nuncio Aquilla deployed...zzz..."

She enjoys long walks by the plasma drives while we hold hands, and her favorite food is grox burgers with lettuce and tomato on a brioche bun.

I'm saving up my Melk bucks to buy her an item rating 500 golden rarity power maul for our anniversary.
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I hate Rolling Steel and I hate every single retard who plays it.
Especially the shitters who play arbites, why the fuck do you hang behind to smack poxwalkers and then somehow fucking die with the most easily OP class in the game?
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>take the exe stance talent that lets allies see marked enemies
>teammates are still clueless and get suprised by specials and plasma gunners despite having literal wallhacks
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>teammate activates exe stance
>i let him have the easy specials so he can keep it up
>he doesn't shoot them
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>>540576647
he's a hard little fella
the dog is quite good but optional
all 3 abilities are good
all 3 grenades are good
very noob friendly class because he's so tanky, and the dog acts as a guardian, offloading some of the work you have to do
somewhat low weapon variety, but the weapons you have access to are some of the best in the game
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>>540587341
>>540588153
>when the euros don't communicate
mics are for extroverts anyway
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I just don't want spend money on mic again
cheap ones suck unless you yell at them they don't pick shit, normal ones either have a really shitty mount or condenser shit requires extra power supply which means more fucking cables
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>>540576647
>Is it good?
Strongest class by far in regular aurics/maelstroms. Has giga damage melee builds in havoc (EO tac axe), control support with LW shock mines, and also more control support with dog, shield and stun shotgun. You can think of dog as fire and forget brain burst, which can be extremely useful in havoc. Between flashbang and zappy shotgun, the class is also uniquely good at shutting down plasma gunners without relying on bubble. Smokes are still better.
>How do people usually play it?
Like complete retards because it's the OP class that carries malicelets into auric without dying too much to stop having fun.
>How did it land?
Was broken on release, broke further with every hotfix, remained broken for a month while fatshark went on vacation, and was only fixed way later. Mixed reception because it's a pay to win retard crutch class in the mortal difficulties. Useful but somewhat low priority in havoc.
>I'm currently leveling it and kinda turned off by how bad the weapon variety is.
Your melee weapons will start feeling better once you hit max level, because all the damage is in the bottom of the tree. Early on, shotgun carries.
>build
Stance is for retards, speaker is for havoc, BTL is the default pick
EO is for dog, speaker CDR, wallhack and tacaxe builds, TW is for penance farming and then putting in the trash, Forceful is for comfort, shotgun cleave, and carrying pubbie objectives because it makes you stun immune.
Picrel is how the bottom of your tree must look at a bare minimum, as all of these nodes are super efficient. Melee will feel good once you have these.
>like melee Ogryn?
It's how many people play it, but that's not all the class is.
>Is the dog just a gimmick?
No. The dog outperforms below average players, all on its own. It is very useful. Dog aura isn't great, Canine Morale is good. With shotgun, just take the reload aura, pathing through Imposing Force.
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>>540590232
I feel like I should add that with push cleave and Forceful's extra cleave, the shotgun is extremely overpowered in aurics. It cleaves through entire hallways, with each pellet dealing roughly boltgun amounts of damage, and the horizontal spread makes it easy to line up headshots. The special shells also fully refill on any ammo pickup, letting you stretch small ammo boxes to twice their value if you just spam the special like it's extra ammo. I would advise keeping a couple shells as backup just in case you do want the stun.
I suggest you use it and learn to appreciate it, because I think it's arbitrator's best ranged weapon, with bolt pistol and rending shotgun coming close second, followed by combat shotgun and bolter (though these are more for havoc).
Try unyielding, flak, scattershot, full bore. I'd recommend dumping stability, NOT mobility, because many melee weapons have terrible sprint efficiency and/or low speed, so you might end up swapping to your shotgun to run anyway, and stability is a pointless stat on a shotgun anyway. If you want to zoom, combat shotgun and bolt pistol are obviously better.
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well damn, I played Bannerlord instead of doing Havocs with dogshit modifiers again
ain't that a shame
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>>540576647
you run dog just for the toughness buffs and regen it provides
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>>540594994
Dog bleed can contribute up to 100k damage in a dense enough run for just 1-2 points in the tree, without any effort. It also does substantial boss damage, even more so with Execution Order. It lets you reliably deal with snipers without needing your gun to do that. It lets you use the bolter while still having a reasonably fast, reactive way of dealing with disablers, instead of having to spend 2 business days swapping to your gun (though frags are still slightly better at that). There's a number of reasons why dog is good.
Most people just completely ignore the dog talents, and then it's no fucking wonder the dog is bad.
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>>540539208
weird oswald post
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What the fuck is this queer shit
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>>540595703
he looks like he plays H40s
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>>540595703
The twitch psyker skin was meh but veteran's looks awful awful, why Fatshark is like this?
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>>540596752
All of the twitch skins look fucking awful.
It's just purple blue vomit, it doesn't look good.
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>>540596752
I can't imagine the kind of twitch addict or fomo autist who would bother getting these skins or even use them.
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>>540596856
Yes but psyker got psyker parts at least, veteran twitch got 1 veteran (chest) + 2 zealot pieces
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>>540525701
>why dont
Tard wrangler is gone.
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>>540597087
All the twitch slop skins re just re-colored premium cosmetics that fatshark just made look worse.
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>>540596752
harlequin wannabe fucker
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fatshark be like
>just one the default skins of veteran in blue purple textures?
>nah let's make the worst combo ever lol
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>>540597467
Is that carapace helmet with gas mask still not available in game?
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>>540595703
Disabled representation, chud :)
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>content creatoids are being filtered out of havoc by plasma gunners
jej
it may be a retarded bullshit enemy, but I'm starting to appreciate it for being such a good filter.
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>Big E doesnt even learn our names
grim... grave even
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>>540599607
I can see your coherency and Captain skulls bro
get ready to get Vox-Doxxed scunner
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>>540599607
>he didn't censor the veteran icon's eyes
>or the ogryn icon
>or the psyker icon
>or the coherency aura icon
>or whatever the second aura is
>or the captain's skull
NICE FUCKING DOXX
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>>540597427
Yeah but everything minus the chest is Psyker* trash, you can even see pic related in the shop right now lol
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>>540526250
>>540528457
>>540529514
>>540530250
Alright anons, I bit the bullet after your posts and this was as far as I got yesterday. I had to take a break from it, because I was literally falling asleep at the wheel, playing lower difficulty.
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>>540600930
there are people hardstuck at those difficulties

imagine
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>>540600930
Reminder to put +exp on all of your curios.
Also it used to be that if you install Psych Ward, you can select a higher level character, open the mission browser, close it, select your lower level character, open the mission browser, and play aurics as a level 10 or something. It's really hard to solo carry with no skill tree tho, so I wouldn't advise anything higher than damnation.
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>>540601027
I can imagine it, hard to complete missions when you take naps halfway through.
>>540601095
Huh, I'll look into it. The one thing I will say for lower level difficulty, I am getting to play different levels I haven't played before. Quit right before twins came out, so it's nice seeing different maps that I never seem to get in Auric.
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>>540525609
Grinding is very fast, especially with xp curios
And it starts feeling good around level 20, just rush keystone, and don't waste points on ability modifier. Also use arbites maul bdfore you get to aurics, because it has high base damage, and damage in the tree is pretty late.
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>>540601095
Lone wolf + shock mine + shick shield and you're good for maelstroms
Not sure what will happen to difficulty unlocks though, since you're required to complete lower difficulty missions to progress. Will aurics count?
When I was leveling, unlocking auric took a while, I was 30 by the time damnation was halfway done, and I didn't even quickplay (was doing the "story").
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>>540600930
the low-difficulty grind is boring. I feel bad you have to experience it
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>>540602227
>Not sure what will happen to difficulty unlocks though, since you're required to complete lower difficulty missions to progress. Will aurics count?
I'm not sure. I recently leveled another arbitrator and played a couple damnation missions for exp, I SUSPECT the progress bar went up, but I discovered the bug by mistake so I didn't actually bother to check beforehand.
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>>540599607
That’s pretty funny actually. Makes sense too. I forgot how fun the dialogue can be.
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>>540596752
i can't even link my twitch account because their website is fucking down since announcement
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>>540599372
It's funny how even the cheapest versions of moebian armor are way better than MUH CADIA™ by the mere fact of that get your own soldiers killed on purpose would be fucking retarded.
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Ogryn needs new ranged weapons badly.
I love my mk2 ripper but it gets boring and rest of the guns I've already used and I find them to not have that feel I want.
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Plasma gunners are fine but I do think they’re threatening enough to merit spawn audio in non event situations
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>>540609176
Now try playing EFL II havocs or mortis trials and say that again lol
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The Scab HP buff feels like it really hurt autoguns since now they take almost a quarter of a mag just to kill one shooter unless your accuracy is aimbot tier
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>>540609589
I can’t recall the modifiers for the one havoc clear I got this week other than tainted stims, but I will check out snoretis. Haven’t seen the new theater yet
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>>540609176
if they spawned in fewer numbers and had a slightly longer charge up time i'd be fine with them
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>>540606124
They don't call Flak Vests t-shirts for nothing, it's not like extra expenses spared on your Flak Vests really improves the lifespan of average Guardsmen.
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>vodkarune jews the medkit barely 2 minutes before the finale
>krokodil-addled brain instantly loses all object permanence
>refuses to deploy it even after being asked several times while the entire team is on 1/3 health at the finale
The civilized world needs a great Chinese firewall equivalent
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>>540610850
haha sorry i forgot XD
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>declined
>declined
>declined

Why do they have to reset this shit anyway. Just let me play 40 as much as I want.
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>>540611643
you're most likely declined based on your current class
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>>540610850
This but quarantining the entire third world
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>>540605702
i linked my twitch account and still never got the drops
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>>540611643
>he applies as meme build arbitrator to a 3/4 party without a psyker
Why are you feeling entitled
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>>540609589
>mortis trials
>brainburst one(1) random enemy
>killfeed blows the fuck up saying you killed literally every elite and specialist in the general area
now what? huh? HUH?
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>playing uprising to speedrun through the event
>some console nigger is literally going backwards
>votekick
>THE VOTE DID NOT PASS
Alright I'll just sit here for 5 minutes until this idiot finally dies or figures out the way.
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>>540616274
>play uprising
>surrounded by retards
?
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>Head hurt when you talk.
>Understood.
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i'm so tired
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>finally finished double barrel mastery
thank god what a nightmare
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>>540616274
Someone would really do that? Just enter the special ed and start bullying the disabled kids?
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Why are the male Loose Cannon Vet and Cadia Vet voice actors so much better than everyone else?
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>>540619910
When will you learn English?
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>>540619910
The Cadia Vet is just really good in general. Literally peak 40kore.
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>>540619910
nah
loose cannon can't even remember simple code or regulation, literal moron
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>>540619910
Professional Vet mogs both when are getting uppity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2yx7gdPyB0
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>Game has been out for three years
>Zealot still has the bug where C2 on every single weapon eats weapon swap inputs
what is wrong with sweden
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Why the fuck did they buff the zealot so much and nerf Ogryn? The muscle bound ogryn deals less melee damage than the scrawny zealot.
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>>540625449
zealot lost quite a bit of CDR, and it's supposed to be the high melee damage class. Ogryn is still more brawly imo
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>even kf3 has prettier faces than darktide
grim + grave
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if only this game were actually popular so some autist stalker-detective could out the faggot at fatshark/games workshop that insists on ugly faces
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>>540625449
>Why the fuck did they buff the zealot so much
The CDR nerf was absolutely humongous and overall a loss for zealot, in spite of other buffs. Also from what I've played, no amount of damage can make up for the currently absolutely cancerous modifiers in high havoc, or the recently inflated HP numbers of enemies. Even knives lost loads of value with plasma gunners being the highest value targets while having mauler stats.
Stealth's bug fix just about cut its baseline effectiveness in half, CDR nerfs feel like they basically killed what made the ability good.
I've had the most success with a pure stun/support build, which is very strong, but still weaker than what zealot could do before.
I've yet to figure out how to make a damage focused zealot work in h40, but with how much harder h40 is in general, and a lot of fotm and bad players having come back, experimenting is difficult when I already have to try twice as hard as before to win.
I've also asked a handful of other players in h40 and they feel similarly about zealot.

Also ogryn nerfs are kind of inconsequential because they didn't touch the actually egregious bits (rumbler mostly).
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>Some people expect have pretty faces from the penal legion/lowest acolytes
Why?
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>>540626601
yeah i dont care about your lore autism
if seeing a pretty face pulls you out of the game make sure you rid your house of mirrors
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>>540626601
why are you against player choice? let them choose normal, pretty, ugly/meme faces
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>>540626601
Gacha brainrot. Chronic masturbators can't connect with their media unless there's something to coom to. Caring THIS MUCH about what your characters look like when 95% of the game is spent looking at the enemies from first person is very fucking retarded.
>inb4 some actual retard thinks this means I'm against pretty faces for some reason
I don't really care what the faces look like because I don't spend enough time looking at them. Maybe get your dick back in your pants.
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>>540626671
>Yeah I don't care about your lorelet autism
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>>540626404
cdr nerfs aside. You can literally kill everything by light attacking with a tac axe now.I did 1 million damage about 20% into the mission. Its insane.
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everything in the game is less fun than melee tacaxe vet
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>>540625449
They are always incredibly liberal with nerfing Ogryn, I assume it's just due to it steam rolling low difficulties.

I don't even think most people know Crunch got gutted yet with a -25% dmg nerf, further reinforcing the m1 club spam meta.
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>>540611643
I've been getting denied on everyclass running meta builds lol I have true survivor title and I was true 40 before the reset too this shit is pure aids
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>Many people feeling entitled by havoc and supporting this system
>Also the same people now crying because the same system turned against them and can't play anymore
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>>540630584
Before I could at least carry the shitters with chorus spam or ogryn. The nerfs make it harder to solo carry. Now unless you get a good team you will constantly lose missions.
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is it only me or does Sefoni not talk anymore in the training area?
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>>540630584
>I've been getting denied on everyclass running meta builds
>meta builds
Yes, the meta has changed, and you probably haven't caught on. You can tell that someone is a retard, or a gigachad, just by the build they bring.
>frag vet
retard
>shriek psyker
gigachad

>>540631234
I've come around to liking plasma gunners for filtering all the low skill and low IQ players that need 30 different crutches to even survive the first horde, while simultaneously calling smoke grenades shit even though they would literally solve the problem everyone is crying about. Not that they're necessary, and neither is bubble (though it's nice and comfy).
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>>540626601
Learn English Juanita.
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I hate saying good things about Fatshit but Auric is actually pretty fun rn. I think they added some more hordes or something, scabs are tough enough to actually be a threat in big groups and plasma gunners are sort of okay if they only spawn in small amounts.
The special clown car is actually fucking stupid though, like there are ALWAYS half a dozen mutants, dogs and trappers on the map at all times and it does get pretty exhausting.
If they add a few more boss spawns so it's really just 'Havoc at home' I won't mind, except the playerbase is REALLY struggling to win these games atm lol.
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Darktide: the cope times
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>>540626973
other people can see how you look though. sometimes you just want to impress.
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>>540626973
>Gacha brainrot. Chronic masturbators can't connect with their media unless there's something to coom to. Caring THIS MUCH about what your characters look like when 95% of the game is spent looking at the enemies from first person is very fucking retarded.
>>540631954
>I've come around to liking plasma gunners for filtering all the low skill and low IQ players that need 30 different crutches to even survive the first horde, while simultaneously calling smoke grenades shit even though they would literally solve the problem everyone is crying about. Not that they're necessary, and neither is bubble (though it's nice and comfy).
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>>540512465
very tranny coded OP image
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>>540634308
>Implying
I don't care about your look m8
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>>540634882
wat
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>>540627009
show me where in the codex it says everybody who winds up in jail on Atoma is ugly
if anything it better serves the the whole ignorant, rampantly oppressive and indiscriminately cruel government if normal-looking people who take care of their appearance to the best of their ability wind up on the wrong side of the Inquisition too
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>>540626973
? no one asked for a breast slider...
tho now that you mention it...
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>>540635239
nobody is trying to impress (you)
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>>540576647
dog with triple barrel shotgun and shock maul is super fun. actually my favorite class now hard for me to go back to the other classes desu
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>>540638524
Nobody is impressed by (you)
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>>540639389
wrong
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Is my toon cute?
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>>540635239
you don’t. others do.
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Are we seriously going to entertain the ugly dysgenic women argument again
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>all three teammates die at the same time
>game crashes
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>>540638660
I have a meme Doomguy build with chainsword + double barrel + Castration stance + lone wolf. It's in no way meta, but it's silly fun IF it works out.
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>>540641473
At what point in your life did you decide to base your entire personality around Vermintide going forward? Was it the midlife crisis?
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>>540644431
How do two different individuals make the conscious decision not to take ammo aura
Like I GET taking speed aura for the memes or if doing lower difficulties, but come on, I don't even remember what the other aura does.
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>>540644431
snoric moment
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>>540630167
Crunch was never that good anyway
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>>540644995
>I don't even remember what the other aura does.
+5% damage
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>>540645702
>+5%
>presumably additive with other damage increases
Why the fuck would anyone ever take this, exactly?
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>>540645793
Because missing a particular breakpoint drove them insane
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>>540644253
wdym?
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>>540644995
You should really just get automatically permabanned from the game the instant you select any aura other than survivalist. It would tremendously improve the playerbase.
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>>540647243
Vets should just get survivalist aura baked into their kit and replace the aura choice with like +10% ammo collected from boxes while in coherency or something
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>>540626404
CDR as a whole getting nerfed is good for the game.
Because spamming abilities is genuinely the strongest thing you can do in this game. Like for example take ogryn's charge which basically acts like an infinite cleave shredder frag grenade that effects all enemies in a line. More you can spam it, more bleed you apply, but also at the same time more you crowd control the enemy by forcing them to sit on the floor being helpless.
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>>540647604
>CDR as a whole getting nerfed is good for the game.
Oh I agree, Darktide got a lot more interesting without CDR spam fueling infinite gold toughness, and a couple specific builds that could just do so on their own.
It still hit zealot in a bad way, and they also completely invalidated an entire build with the CDR passive rework.
I can't complain too much though, since I immediately found a new build I got to h40 with. Really tough grind, it's a lot harder now. Going to try a more damage focused build with tac axe next as per >>540628238 's suggestion. Played a couple games in auric and it does seem very promising. Even the heavy/light diagonal cleave combo does unexpectedly well against hordes. Also the special is giving me back the greatly missed mutant interrupt that they ripped away from the dueling sword.

On which subject, thoughts on picrel for havoc?
Might nab a second one with infested for the rotten armor modifier.
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Hello friends, just wanted to stop in and ask if they made any of the psyker staves that aren't the flamethrower staff good yet?
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>>540648347
Ground pound has always been pretty good, it just directly competes with flame staff which is better in most ways.
Shock staff is a good armor remover for more melee focused builds, and the rework made psyker deceptively tanky so those are pretty good now. Still prefer bubble over gays, because plasma gunners will kill your retards in aurics. It's just very limited in its amount of targets hit, so it doesn't make for a weapon you can use all the time. Also likely want a big fuckoff cleave melee to delete chaff with, but greatswords are a thing now so that's indeed a thing.



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