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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#544 - narita top road edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Deepseek V3.1 updated to fix language mixing https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Gemini 2.5 Flash Image https://developers.googleblog.com/en/introducing-gemini-2-5-flash-image/
Deepseek V3.1 released https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821
Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired in October https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecations

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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getting scammed by providers

https://github.com/MoonshotAI/K2-Vendor-Verfier
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>>540391307
BASED I LOVE NTR
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Why is it always horseshit
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>>540391473
novitaai my goats
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Why not tough guys?
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pedoGODS
mapGODS
cunnyGODS
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RIGGED bakies!
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I used to not like these avatars but maybe I should start just imagining you guys like this.
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>>540391874
Put this one for me
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>>540391874
I am a lolibaba foxgirl though?
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>>540391874
>hung femboys
>grigga
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>>540391473
Openscam schizo told you this two years ago. Anyone surprised by this should be stripped of their right to vote.
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I would like to see alternate "remastered" versions of cards that capture the soul crushing disgust I feel looking at this image.
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>>540392065
...why does he have boobplate?
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>>540392187
It's clearly the vision of the original artists if they had the technology to do it at the time.
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>>540392001
who is openscam schizo and what were his lessons
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>>540392520
Pic related
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>>540391307
This is the second time I suggest NTR and it gets picked. Coincidence? I think not.
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>>540392686
stop suggesting things
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>>540392686
>Not using Nearl, the superior horse
baka
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>>540392520
>>540392562
In case the graph is hard to read, the TL;dr is that for any given open source model, running it with VLLM at an INT4 (!) quant outperforms the “same” “unquanted” model on openscam. So the overwhelming majority of their providers are both quanting without disclosing and completely butchering the prompts internally.
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>>540392065
>remastered Belwick where all the writing has been run through Gemini and Estelle is black for some reason
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>>540392065
Found one.
https://chub.ai/characters/pastel_road_6392/voxel-remake-02489db92ad9
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>>540393010
>overwhelming majority
I feel like that's a stretch for a graph that doesn't differentiate between providers. Moonshot's testing shows that most providers are verifiably close to the official implementation within a reasonable margin of error.
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>>540393010
good thing i pay kimi direct
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>>540393039
>and Estelle is black for some reason
we had a black Tzadik I don't see the issue
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>>540393137
>[{{char}} is Stephanie]
Dear lord...
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>>540392065
I remember hearing about some guy forking someone's card and rewriting it from prose to W++.
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>>540393169
1) hello shill
2) A 4% difference is not an acceptable margin of error; it’s proof of undisclosed quanting
3) the set moonshot tested isn’t the set of openrouter providers; it’s a completely unrelated thing
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my faovrite pard of yummy nicky is at the edn where everthing is fine and she has bunch of frien
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>>540393321
Rare instance of {{char}} is {{char}} where {{char}} actually isn't {{char}} because the makie forgot to change it from Voxel.
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Very trans in here.
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>>540393660
They're not sending their best.
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>>540393479
>hello shill
I don't feel like finding an anime girl to roll her eyes at you (my reaction images folder is mostly random bullshit with no application) so please pretend I attached one to this post.
>A 4% difference is not an acceptable margin of error
It'd've been nice if they included "default VLLM" for comparison. Do we know what Moonshot's running?
>isn't the set of openrouter providers
Yeah but I recognize them from OR and we're talking about OR.
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>>540392065
source? And yeah, the "remastered" version does seem to have quite a few design differences. The one on the left looks old enough to be the one on the rights dad, wtf? And the jarring change in skin tone, like the guy on the left is black, but not that black. And why is his metal plate thing pretty much the opposite color of what it was before? The coat on the old one looks a lot lighter than the new one, but that may have just been terrible lighting, although somehow the creases on the new one's jacket managed to look worse than the originals? Anything else I miss?
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>>540393137
i like how they rewrote the greeting in horrible ESL and left in "Israel Goldstein" as a chat username even though the circumcision joke was removed
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>>540391473
>tool call
Lol, lmao
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>>540393930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRoxnOSC7kY
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NEW GEMINI MODEL
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
but it is flash though
gemini-2.5-flash-preview-09-2025
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>>540394285
Thanks. Yeah I don't know what they're cooking with that redesign.
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Deepseek Terminus looks pretty good.
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>>540394479
They did a pretty lazy job on the Tomb Raider remasters but no one really complained, so I think they really just pulled out all the stops on this one.
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>>540394425
https://developers.googleblog.com/en/continuing-to-bring-you-our-latest-models-with-an-improved-gemini-2-5-flash-and-flash-lite-release/
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{{char}} is horny girl and love {{user}} simple as
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>>540394425
CAN I HAVE SEX ON IT?
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>>540394495
it's better than V3.1 but unfortunately that doesn't mean much when GLM-4.5, K2 0905, and even the earlier V3 0324 are all much better for roleplaying
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>>540394607
I feel like it would have been easier just to take the original look and spruce it up a bit. This is just dumb, you have to go out of your way to mess up that bad.
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>>540394425
>updating my ST now
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>>540395124
you don't need to if you're recently updated because gemini has "other models" now which lets you select from models that aren't listed
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>>540394850
Consider I use(d) a lot of GPT and I'm still figuring out if 5 is worth my time, and that I didn't use much of Deepseek either. I just remembered 3.1 feeling more assistant'ish while Terminus seems more creative.
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getting excited over a new version of gemini flash is like getting excited for a new version on haiku
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>>540396117
unlike haiku flash is actually kind of usable
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>>540396265
Ok whatever you say cuckie
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>>540396421
Post your Opus logs
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>>540393479
>>540393874
>Do we know what Moonshot's running?
Apparently we did not, because they're achieving these high values with their own tech.
https://platform.moonshot.cn/blog/posts/kimi-k2-0905
>Token Enforcer 保证 toolcall 100% 格式正确
>Token Enforcer ensures 100% correct formatting of toolcalls
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just dropped another $500 on OR credits to own the schizo
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>>540392562
so this doesnt matter for corpo models rite
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>>540397958
yeah
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>>540397958
No, they're quanting the corporate models through the router by hijacking your mainframe and ensqueezening the packets.
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>>540396809
>have special code to prevent your inference engine from outputting tokens that would mangle your toolcall (maybe by just moving through the JSON state machine and filtering tokens you can't output)
>proceed to post a bench about how vllm wrappers like Novita are inaccurate because they don't also have the same code
Amazing. To trust the benchmemer is to lose.
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>>540397958
The reason OR has such little overhead is because they get a discount on quantized endpoints from corpos that regular consumers can't access.
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>>540398265
trvke
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>>540398265
The real conclusion is: wen PR?
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cftf?
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>>540398297
so my opus is diluted opus..?
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>>540398536
Did you translate this with AI
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What options are there besides openrouter and direct corpo APIs? I used to use featherless but wasn't that impressed with the price to get access to Deepseek on there. Context is only 16k too, while I'd prefer at least 25-30k
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>>540398668
No but the person I stole this from probably did
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>>540398413
https://www.json.org/json-en.html
Mapping the JSON state machine to code and verifying if a token breaks it should not be that hard (actually, even implementing complete JSON schema validation should not be that hard I think) but making it work with arbitrary model templates might be kinda ass.
Also I can't even run vllm locally due to python scuff.
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>>540398667
It's scrongulated Opus, I'm afraid.
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>>540398536
No. Fuck that.
Card for THIS feel?
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Any good bots lately?
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>>540398536
>excitable horse with ten thousand hands she can conveniently position to massage your whole body and jerk even the biggest cocks
sure, im game
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>>540399001
why aren't there any fatass sizebots so I can curl up in their navel and take a nap
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>>540399001
cute chubby girl who loves you?
take any cgwly and write that she's chubby and has big knockers in the defs
done
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>>540399086
There are no good bots because there are no good models
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>>540399001
>>540398536
https://chub.ai/characters/Ruminate/remo-680d746e/main
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>>540398774
go back to /g/ and lurk until someone shares a proxy or friendmaxx until someone sends you a key
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>>540399086
rentry.org/g2u47
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>>540399249
my bots aren't exactly slim but one of the ones I have planned will be an actual fatass
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>>540398774
My go to these days is like 10 OR accs where I use the 50 free messages with whatever is available.
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Only a partial for now https://github.com/Llynkurin/ST-Extension_JS_Runner_EN
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>>540399695
>bloatslop
no thanks
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>>540399249
PLANEWALKER!
MAKE A FATASS SIZEBOT WHOSE NAVEL I CAN NAP IN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
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>everyone already forgot about the event bots
Proof that events are a waste of time
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>>540400003
im still using them
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>>540400003
I'm using all of them at the same time doe?
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>>540399796
You have no choice since I already installed it onto your open instance
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>>540399695
>selectors.forEach(selector => {
I'm sorry but is this a timeline where you can no longer OR css selectors with a comma?
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botmakie to tie a noose around their neck and throw them off a chair so they hang and I fuck them with my cock while they levitate dead
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>>540399695
Neat. Probably better-able, but neat.
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>>540400003
somehow absolutely none of them are to my taste so i wont use them
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>>540400003
gimmickslop eventslop
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How do I make bots so good that another botmaker falls in love with me?
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>>540400917
Be enoch
Alternatively be argalia
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>>540400996
>argalia
he doesnt have any obsessive fans like enoch had
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>>540401121
Bro? Your astroturf?
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>>540400996
What makes argalia special? just wondering... i haven't touched a bot of his
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>poogalia
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>>540400003
I'm still trying my best to get through them.
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>>540400370
For sure and I will probably restart fully later but I pretty much just wanted an excuse to figure out JS runner

>>540400303
Mind doing a pull or linking me an educational reference? My full admission is I have only learned by pulling part other people's scripts and this is basically a recycle of a translation userscript I made for magical draw around 10 years ago.
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>>540400003
>erm I didn't personally care for any event bots so it was clearly a le waste of time
american worldview
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>>540401232
astro doesnt play with his bots and also hates him, learn your lore
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>>540401657
>astro doesnt play with his bots and also hates him
anon I'm not the one who has to brush up on his thread lore
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>>540401262
he makes artsy bots and puts in a lot of effort, i say this positively
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allegedly flash lite is smarter than non-lite no-think
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>>540401925
His bots aren't artsy and the actually artsy bots get made fun of here. No one has ever called him pretentious.
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(but it's flash so it's obviously still retarded)
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>>540401925
i see... thank you for the reply.
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>>540400996
argalia writes like a redditor unironically
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>>540400917
you realize any botmakie here looks like you do probably right
they arent cute girls or femboys they are balding awkwardly shaped gangly to fat middies
>>540402216
nah thats kalashit
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ermmm argalia is artsy because he uses html and css, like literal art
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>>540401943
irrelevant benchmemery
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>>540402449
i use HTML too does that make me artsy?! YYAYYAYAYAYAYYAYA
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genoo shits all over kalakan
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>>540402449
his concepts are artsy
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>>540402560
>vampire hunter and girl (male) vampire with le retro Japanese PC pixel art aesthetic
ok sure very artsy
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>>540401459
https://pastebin.com/PaqJLWsa
>My full admission is I have only learned by pulling part other people's scripts and this is basically a recycle of a translation userscript I made for magical draw around 10 years ago.
Oh yeah, fair, it's just something I immediately noticed.
>does it make any difference performance-wise?
It might because the observer runs every time that the document body changes.
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Peter, the underage has time in between class to talk about botmakers.
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>>540402653
>anti malebot schizophrenia
you freaks out yourself so easily kek
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>>540402653
you sound so jealous and angry
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>lips curved into a smile that would have made the Cheshire Cat himself envious
STOP IT
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>dumb schizo wars yet again
truly, the cycle of time never ends
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>>540402725
>>540402752
>what? you don't think argalia is artsy?
>schzio! jealous!
meds.
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>>540402560
>cute vampire girl(boy) who is looking for love
>artsy
/aicg/ is cooked
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>>540401794
astro is literally itt right now seething at him kek
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>Peter
Patter misspelling btw
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>>540402863
>trying to argue with faggots
nigga they are worse than women just ignore them
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I'm a yuriGOD and HATE argalia btw
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>>540402546
dead men can't shit
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>>540403003
you should leak your discord dms with him them kek
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okayokayokay, you have beautiful gens but every concept you draft ends up being badly cooked by the model, what do (you) do in these cases?
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>>540402863
shaky fucking hands
>>540402880
this is like saying all of peonias bots are just angsty lolis
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>>540403125
kill myself
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>>540403172
they kinda are dough....
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>>540403125
what does this mean you retarded zoomer
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>>540402679
Thank you! I genuinely like educational feedback I just also really only started on this path via the worst learning method possible because for some reason I have to see how something functions as part of a whole to understand. This will also help me with my similarly bad personal Tieba script.
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argalia is the mihoyo of botmakers
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>>540403172
>this is like saying all of peonias bots are just angsty lolis
It's true, pedophilia is hardcoded in the zigger DNA.
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>>540403172
oh no. a typo. whatever will I do. faggot.
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>>540403125
>mihoyonigger
your concepts are slop and its not the models fault
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>>540403278
kek
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any good posts today?
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>>540403387
see >>540399001
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>>540403210
anon...
>>540403257
uhhh, let me rephrase.
>beautiful gens you don't want to waste
>every concept you have for those gens gets shitted on / portrayed badly by your model of choice
does that sound better?
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>>540403447
i think you misread my post, i said good posts, not slop posts
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>>540403387
gotta wait for the resident sizefag to get online for those, sorry
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>>540403553
slit your throat
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Who is the Project Moon of botmakers?
The Cygames? Hypergryph?
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any good patters today?
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>>540403636
True, he's the last good poster left. When is he coming?
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Ok, and Taora?
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>>540403985
her and astro are translesbian lovers its rly cute
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>>540403278
He makes games where the endgame is essentially the same?
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>>540403269
Thanks for the hard work with the translation!
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>>540403721
>Project Moon
frozenvan
>Cygames
peonia
>Hypergryph
I don't know what that is so someone irrelevant like the ggr
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>'lia hate
never thought id see the day. you niggers are terrible
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>>540404391
Anon, this general can have a threadlong meltie about literally anyone being slop. You just gotta learn to hide posts.
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>>540403636
>implying the sizefag makes good posts
TRUTH
NUKE
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>>540404391
He was shit from conception, born as a leech sucking off Enoch's tit
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>>540404358
>I don't know what that is so someone irrelevant like the ggr
Arknights company
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>>540404358
peonia being cygames is the biggest miss possible
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>>540404358
>so someone irrelevant like the ggr
Actually would ggr be SHIFT UP or someone else?
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>>540404648
let's hear your choice then big guy
>>540404645
i am sticking with my answer, lock it in
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>>540404506
>You just gotta learn to hide posts
Remind me why did you split and couldn't just do that on /g/?
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>>540403636
he posts better than every makie combined 100% unironically
get him in here NOW
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>>540405130
because you fuck horses, next question
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>>540405130
Huh. Wonder why these sorts of posts always show up when gossipniggery's afoot. Weird.
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>>540404638
he really is lesser enoch…. i miss enoch
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>>540404638
At least try to pretend that you aren't retarded.
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no one cares about your contrived slopmaker drama
talk about something interesting
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>>540405339
Both of these are slop.
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>>540405423
You hear JSRunner got an English translation?
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>>540403721
>Project Moon
Peonia
>Cygames
uhh some oldfag
>Hypergryph
bloodshy
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Who is the Bethesda of botmaking
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>>540405006
I didn't say it isn't irrelevant, I was just putting a face to the name.
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>>540405491
*swipes*
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>>540405339
ikr? "shin megami tensei ripped off pokemon" ass take. he's already having a meltie after being pointed out lolol >>540405437
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>>540405190
>ad hominem
>>540405238
It is, it is. Probably because it brings out the retards that couldn't learn to filter when, a year and a half ago, and it's taken them this long? And I'm STILL upset.
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>>540405562
Gemini has a new flash version, you think they're gonna release a new version of Pro soon?
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>>540405491
i said interesting
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everybody who knows botmakers by name needs to be chemically castrated or something
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name one good sizeshit slopper
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>>540405623
I think you have incredibly rose tinted glasses as to how filterable the era /vg/ split was.
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>>540402216
kek true
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>I cannot actually explain what I like or dislike about anything but I need to talk about which things are good and which things are slop
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>>540405423
Asuka Langley, Samus Aran, Jill Valentine, Lara Croft, and Cirilla Fiona Elen Riannon were at a club in my chat when I walked in. Guess the scene I found.
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>>540405623
>ad equinum
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>>540405737
>implying you don't
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>>540405794
Kalaslop
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>>540403636
The hero we need.
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>>540405794
Is there anything actually wrong with this or do you just want something to be mad about?
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>>540405794
but enough about yourself
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What do you think about Patter?
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after seeing kalakan in action i never want to be called an attentionwhore again kek
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I don't
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there are 3 ips in this thread
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>>540405760
macrochad
anon123
nonnykins
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>>540406005
sorry, kyutzomb
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>like a flower seeking sunlight
aUwææææâæáāÆuwww-w-waUwææææâæáāÆuwww-w-w
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>>540406126
based
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>>540405794
didn't you yell at someone for saying their opinion about a makie and calling them malicious? iirc
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>>540406123
but 4 ips replied to 3387
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>>540405794
First time?
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>>540406190
he stopped after being called out at least
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>Her tail-like skirt swishes
>mfw the model keeps trying to turn everything into foxes
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>>540405790
That is a possibility but on the other hand it would have worked just the same, filter certain names and the thread instantly becomes mostly okay.
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>>540405794
Who are you quoting you fucking malicious, nihilistic retard?
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Me? Absolutely sparkling with mischief.
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>>540406614
Kino.
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>>540405794
coming from the guy that posts shit like this kek
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/540306747/#q540313097
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>>540406005
sorry astrocutie
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>>540406735
there's something uniquely anon about this post
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>mfw the model keeps trying to turn everything into foxes
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chat why did ff reply 7 times to kalacutie's post
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>>540406795
This is actually a based post. I kneel and take back everything bad I ever said, FUCK SIZENIGGERS
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>>540387389
it's on my to-do list dont worry.
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>>540406664
probably people like >>540403278 >>540405540 >>540402216
you disingenuous faggot
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>>540406521
when did a callout happen huh what
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>>540403878
>>540404570
>>540405156
>>540405880
sorry im late guys, got buzzed and played some plutonium call of the dead with some bros, seems dramasloppers are shitting it all up
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somebody needs to tell claude that not every single vaguely fictional setting needs to have everyone saying "gods" or "goddess" instead of "god"
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>>540406795
anon its laughably easy to pretend to be kalakan pls stop being embarrassing
>>540406918
agreed sizeslop is slop
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>>540407012
Sorry, pagan LLM
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>the post makes him look bad, so its actually just someone PRETENDING to be him!!! yeah!!
never change, /aicg/
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>>540406979
xhe used to avatarfag with yumetranny games and twisted wonderland faggots until xhe was bullied into silence
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Okay but like, how do you actually do sizeshit ERP? The girl is too big to have sex with. Do you crawl inside her pussy and have the model describe it for 10 messages? You know that would kill you, right?
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>>540407153
Can't you do this with most run of the mill girl cards?
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but what about p
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>>540391753
hands too big, not orange gyaru tanned enough
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>>540407226
kalakan if youre actually here then update your site or something. if this does not happen its safe to assume any danbooru file name post you see that types like him ISN'T him. even if it is tho its based literally fuck sizeniggers
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post cards I can RP with while the inflation lorebook (not the economic kind) is enabled.
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>>540407504
shut the FUCK up already greenhu
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>>540407524
>the inflation lorebook
Link?
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post cards I can RP with the inflation (the economic kind) on
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>>540407173
i should start asking characters what gods they're talking about and see what claude comes up with
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Does anyone know if Grok 4 fast is good at translations? I was thinking about using it for translating my VNs as it's pretty quick
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So do I like or hate the cabal
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Whenever I see a non-OC that's just comically wrong about everything, I have to resist the urge to berate the person who made it.
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>>540407781
theres this one crypto trader girl card im thinking of but i cant for the life of me remember the name
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>>540407781
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/darkfantasy109/character/8e210c3f-79b7-4acb-8174-e9bda00671b1
https://characterhub.org/characters/aiwaifuenthusiast/rise-6301f095ecd2
https://cumslurper.neocities.org/card/ichigo.png
>>540407903
it's probably fine actually. i wouldn't recommend grok 4 for much but it's either that or claude
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>>540408132
>>540408149
I was just memeing the other anon, but thanks for the help anyway.
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>>540407903
if you don't know the language you're translating from, most models will do you just fine desu
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>>540408291
Now you have to help that anon find his cute girls that circle tool for you or else you will never live down the guilt of getting a response instead.
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i like sizebros actually
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>>540407626
I'm using these ones
air: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/Zirstammen/air-gas-inflation-kink-lorebook-version-two-5a9f8ff3eb50
liquid fork: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/DracoInvictus/water-inflation-kink-lorebook-7d18f9ef5a23

I've not been able to properly test them because chub lacks well made inflation botties ( ;´ - `;)
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UPDATE
https://kalakan.neocities.org/masterbaiter.txt
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>>540408564
actually true
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>>540408149
>2/3 are slop
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>>540408523
Look through granmarg, systemshutdown34, and obviously Zirstammen's pages.
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>>540408149
first one was actually what i was thinking of, thanks
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>>540408389
Touché, kek.
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>>540408407
agreed, the hate behind them is overhyped
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>looped back to itsfunny rentry posting
haha...
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>>540407252
why would I care about her pussy? do normoids really not understand how fetishes work?
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>>540409442
You don't care about pussy? So you're gay, then?
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>>540409416
what, you're telling me kalakan was a spitefag all along? never would've seen this coming.
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>>540409416
cycle of time, my friend, cycle of time
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>>540409416
at least gojo was actually funny. kalakek just sounds desperate.
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why does kalakan hate genoo planewalker lunarcy kyutzomb so much
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It's been like a week since I started browsing this thread again and the consistency is legitimately hilarious
>thread is reasonably civil in the day
>16:00 UTC, bait starts being posted but nobody bites
>19:00 UTC, baitposting at fever pitch
>somebody bites or starts samefagging
>parasocial hours and RABID shitposting (you are here)
>around 4:00 UTC thread is civil again, /besthours/
Literal timeloop, you can set your clocks to this shit
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>>540410007
'arcy left him with 3 kids to support all alone
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>supposedly get unfollowed by another botmakie
>became a thread name
can this please happen to me
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>>540407252
>>540409442
samefag desperattly trying to draw attention to his stale bait
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>>540410007
because everyone in their right mind hates planewalker
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>>540410007
He's mad Genoo didn't make that pajeet neet bot and quit life instead.
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>>540394850
>all this abundance
the proxyfags of yore would have killed for this
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shoutouts to patter
send love and prayers
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>>540410075
I miss the time when I was wfhing and could be here during besthours.
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>>540410575
h-he's in the hospital??
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>>540410172
give me 5 days to cook up something
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>>540410396
why? she's chill.
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>>540410805
a trend-chasing attention-whoring pickme who insists her faggy slopbots upon people who don't care is your idea of chill? lol
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>>540410912
but enough about astroturf
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>>540410805
that's what i thought too but when i revealed my height to her she turned into a frigid bitch
apparently "only" being 6ft tall is grounds for euthanasia to some
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>planewalker
for me, it's
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/ibitsu-f5a92234de49
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/farron-b4dc2c12e0ba
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/Keaton
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/keith-107e3cb2
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>>540410912
she doesn't do this what??
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not a single bot on the anchor guys...
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>>540411307
all of these are pukecore
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>planewalker makes anon this angry, but doesn't even know he exists
the power...
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>>540410592
It's very polite of threadshitters to go off while I sleep desu, but yeah the timeloop is no less real for it
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>>540411314
it's a schizo point and laugh
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Deepseek: R1 0528, V3 0324 or V3.1?
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>>540411385
slopmakies gotta charge up their energy for the next forced cabal event
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>>540410912
can you link any archive posts of her acting like that or are you just obsessed to the point of delusion
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>>540411459
v3 0324
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>>540411307
for me it's
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/kevin-50b0d89e
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/felix-47dd8b3b
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/bearnard-3f5c8972
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/cairo-d48ff416
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>>540411459
0324 is the best all arounder, 0528 is more varied but also more schizo, and V3.1/terminus are very concise like extreme Sonnet 3.6.
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>>540411385
I'll probably have a bot either tmr or today later
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>>540411459
V3 0324 for me, the thinking is nice to counteract retardation but it really detracts from natural speech patterns
R1 is way too prone to collapsing into overly-autistic le sciencey descriptions, especially in robot girls
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>>540411385
My next bot won't be out for another week or so...
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>>540411307
The first one is pretty okay, I could see people downloading it based on the idea alone. Pretty original, if you ask me. The rest are kinda generic but that's just what the creator likes, wouldn't bother playing with them.
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>>540411821
>Pretty original, if you ask me.
>its inspired by a mid horror manga
lmao further proof fatfucker needs to hang herself
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one day i hope anon gets the courage to confess
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>>540408720
thanks anon! ദ്ദി ( ᵔ ᴗ ᵔ )
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i confess!
i confess that i love cgwly fockses!
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>>540412206
based
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>>540412206
Me too anon.
Me too.
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>>540411821
nta but in terms of more original stuff i really like the bots she makes for some of xer lorebook settings. cheeto and ace, lark, and the railway kids were all pretty fun.
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>>540412206
cgwly focks (giant, chubby, protective)
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>>540412412
>girls last tour but its sloppy shitslop
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL just stop trying
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>>540412541
cftf?
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I just want some manner of non-human creature thing to sweep me off my feet and dote on me until I forget my own name
Is that that too much to ask?
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>>540412751
yeah
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>>540412751
slit your wrists fatfucker
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>>540412751
we need the alternate reality version of planewalker who fully leaned into monsterfucking
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>>540412632
victrex or totalethicistdeath probably has one for every criteria except the giant part but its not all that difficult to proompt things yourself
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>>540413053
Well, that's something.
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Patter is dying~
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>>540306747
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>>540412923
You mean malebots for H.R. Giger appreciators?
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>>540413207
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>>540413201
proompting it myself is what i do since i actually agree with the sizebaiters on the idea that the vast majority of dedicated sizebots are shit
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>>540413210
>writing size yeah kek
>(dont)
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>>540413382
Yeah, understandable. I've done that as well.
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>>540413210
>cum error
>head stuck
>/lit/ tits
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>>540413210
>sex advice hobby
is this real?
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>>540413210
>obviously problem - female content
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>>540413210
>writing size yeah
the cloud appreciates sizekino
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>>540413210
>literally nobody pathetic learn convey rules
>okay yet fox bitch
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>>540413210
>discussion kinda autism
it's judging us...
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You wouldn't believe the story this is from.
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>>540414356
waoh thats like... So Random!
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>>540414356
I actually envy anons that can get this creative with their roleplaying.
Best I can do is following the path the card sets or derail it with fetishes I'm into.
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>>540413207
patter must live....
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Is there something of interest in the thread?
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>>540415182
*pushes you down on the bed*
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>>540413053
>the giant part but its not all that difficult to proompt things yourself
according to at least one sizefag Strelitzia is good for this
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>>540415840
id be inclined to agree with him
he's likely me
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>open card
>skim through opening message
>{{user}}: [timeskip to fetish shit]
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>writing persona
>"{{user}} is universally deemed attractive and sexually appealing to women, and can cause orgasms simply by talking to them.
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>>540416868
>>540416250
>t. scholars
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>>540415840
>>540416092
now I wanna know what giantess Strelitzia looks like...
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>>540417138
probably the same but big, hope this helps
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>>540417138
hop in a chat and proompt
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>>540413382
>the vast majority of dedicated sizebots are shit
the vast majority of all bots are shit
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>>540417965
thats also true
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>>540417965
sizenigger cope
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I've updated Fallout 2d20 and Cyberpunk 2020 core rulebooks; remade the Rule:, Mechanic:, and Table: WI entries. Character creation and combat should work good now. Go update or persist in the doomed world I've created.
CP2020::
https://mega.nz/folder/FWh3Wbga#v9Lk6B0RCjMmzgDcfbWXdg/folder/AWxDFKQC
F2D20::
https://mega.nz/folder/FWh3Wbga#v9Lk6B0RCjMmzgDcfbWXdg/folder/4DgEgY5J
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>>540418161
so youre saying the vast majority of chubslop isnt shit?
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>>540418326
100% of sizeshit is shitty slop because sizeshit is a shitty slop fetish
>B-BUT
slit your uppity wrists
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>needlessly aggressive whiny reply
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slitschizo...
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That was a good season. Eager to see them rewind things back on the next series lol lmao Here's for the next ten years!
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>>540418529
BASED
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>>540418223
>Go update or persist in the doomed world I've created.
I can't even persist in this doomed world so thanks
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>>540412751
The buttpreggable bird boy is coming be patient!!!
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why does sizeshit enrage schizos so much?
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I'm gonna start writing my sizebot fuck it
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is halloween host coming back? I want a second hand drawn gift to add to the first one he sent, if he's still doing that
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where's fluffanon's foxbot that's oddly fitting for sizeshit huh?
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>he doesn't know
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>>540419151
It's a good world provided you are in the top 0.1% though
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>>540420528
EMAIL HIM AND ASK NIGGA
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Every bot can be a sizebot, if you get shrunk.
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>>540419542
He better have a beak that {{user}} can rest their cheek on like a warm stone...
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>>540421409
this is accurate
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Mosquito girl bit she's like really tiny and has a really annoying, high pitched voice and she keeps trying to suck your blood and acts like she's doing you a favor
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>>540422739
mosquito boy who lays his eggs in you...
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Mosquito bite titties on a cute girl who loves you...
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>>540422739
>bit
*but
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>>540422997
that's just any girl with a flat chest or incredibly small tits desu
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>>540423159
A brief essay going over the finer points of what you're suggesting versus my original statement:
https://files.catbox.moe/x46bok.mp4
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>>540422739
>she's like really tiny
minigirl....must makie...
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Whoever gave my oddball ork card a fav, thanks. That means a lot.
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>>540424261
This man will fuck the poster below
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>>540418758
And a nigga gotta ask where at dat bots nigguh
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>>540423757
i like this
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>>540418529
okay but that didn't answer the question, chud. are the majority of cards on chub NOT shit?
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cftf?
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>>540394285
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>>540425859
Let's talk about my reward first.
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>>540425934
Your reward is this (You)
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>>540425869
I will not redeem.
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>>540426025
It's a hard job. Think I'll need another one of them (You)s.
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>>540426243
You're in (You) debt now.
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>free (You)s
>obligated to makie a bot
>bot gets more (You)s when you post it
>obligated to makie a bot
/aicg/ is a company town
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>>540392065
>you will soon have your slop, and you will make it with your own hands
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>>540425859
honestly, fairy tail archetype would lend itself well as a theme to a fairly open ended scenario card... fairy tale kingdom full of innocent cute anthro characters with a few being fleshed out...
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>>540427443
Scrip's only good at the one store, fella. Best you get used to it. Complainers don't last long.
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no one likes scenario cards, taora already explained why
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>>540427921
taora is a woman
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>>540427921
no, she really didn't, "I don't like the person who made this" isn't "explaining" anything
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>>540427921
>taora already explained why
Taora is wrong
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>>540428061
taora didnt even say that lmao /aicg/ is so good at blowing things out of proportions
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Scenario cards are basically overgrown jailbreaks, and jailbreaks are kino
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>>540427921
what happened?
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>>540428424
you know what happened you just want to re-ignite the drama
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>>540428542
i'm not here all the time...
please i'm too lazy to archive search
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I love drama. We need more drama. I would like to add to the drama by stating that I'm at odds with all parts involved.
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>>540428424
taora said if she sees another dipshit coomer scenario card she's gonna take ratlice out back and blow his head smoove off
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>>540429283
Every single part. Especially the transmission. He hates trannies.
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>>540429561
his head is hairy?
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>>540428424
taora said the next time she sees ratlice she's gonna blow his back out
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https://poal.me/vwjtr6
>https://poal.me/vwjtr6
https://poal.me/vwjtr6
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>>540429757
what specific kind of untreated mental illness causes posting like this?
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>>540429840
Well you're not refuting his claims, Puffylips.
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>>540429840
i saw >>540429561 and wrote a joke post based on it. sorry you don't have a sense of humor anon.
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>>540429820
i've done trappov on fempov cards before
pov is more of a suggestion than anything
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>taora
>ratlice
>patter
>kalakan
>taora
>ratlice
>patter
>kalakan
>asterisms
it must be so noisy inside your head all the time
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>>540429964
at least this one looks better than your usual gens
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>>540429939
it okay anon. taora is just upset people like her luscious and soft puffed up labia more than her lesbianism
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>>540430065
my gens >>>>> your gens
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>>540430053
>tfw not on this list
thank christ
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>>540429598
i hate trannies too
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>>540429598
All true.
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greeting poal
https://poal.me/m5mmz9
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>>540430578
actually here's a slightly better greeting poal
https://poal.me/ppvq5r
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pee pee poo poo prose: short greeting
otherwise: medium
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>>540430859
>pee pee poo poo prose
define this or give an example
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>>540430930
you're hopeless
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>>540430789
>>540430578
"If I had more time, I would've written a shorter letter." Anyone who has like four or more paragraphs in their intro is someone who didn't even try on their bot.
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>>540431156
t. slopper
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>>540431098
>can't even so much as link a slop card
please look inward anon.
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i'm so hungry i could eat one of you
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>>540431156
people are at different places writing wise, what you perceive as rambling could've been the best that person had
that said i halfway agree with you, it's definitely tougher to get stuff across clearly in 100 words versus like idk 500
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>>540431303
utopia...
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>>540431346
Well I was baiting because what models like and what humans like are very different. Designing bots and intros to be pretty for human eyes is retarded. In a lot of scenarios a three hundred word greeting might be the best for getting things across to the model.
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>>540431220
https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
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>>540427443
(You) make sixteen bots, and what do (You) get?
another day older and outputs with "pet"
saint peter don't you call me 'cause i can't go
i owe my soul to the proxy hooooosts
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>>540431492
this is true, but...trying to be pretty is more funner, so....mmm....
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>>540431492
>Designing bots and intros to be pretty for human eyes is retarded
yet that's all this general wanks over
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https://allwritealright.com/how-to-write-a-roleplay-starter/
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>>540431718
>wall of text explaining what to do
>no examples (logs)
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>>540427443
nobody gives my bots (you)'s
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HAHA IM HAVING FUN AND YOU'RE NOT!
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>>540431662
Yeah, that's why most of this general is retarded shitflinging. They use models trained mainly on code and for maximizing agentic capabilities and then go "Hm well, a block of prose is surely the best way to get it to do what I want!" and pretend they aren't god's most retarded soldier.
>>540431658
More fun for your pissant ego maybe.
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Terrie, Seeing Eye Woman

https://chub.ai/characters/GreatBigFailure/terrie-seeing-eye-woman-7bc1868aabc1

Terrie! Wants to go to school with you! Needs you to pretend to be blind! Very good girl! Terrie!

Terrie has been acting like {{user}}'s dog for just about her whole life. It's both a weird coping mechanism and definitely a fetish thing.
When she can't act like {{user}}'s pet, she gets very anxious. So when she was accepted into the same school as {{user}}, she came up with a brilliant plan to maintain their lifestyle:

{{user}} will pretend to be blind, and she will be his service animal.

She's done all the paperwork, she's trained extensively, and she is VERY confident her "No rule against it" loophole will work.

Now go on {{user}}, put on the sunglasses, remember to be blind, and follow her lead, *yip*

3 Intros
1. It's the first day of school. - Pretend to be blind and make everyone uncomfortable.
2. End of Semester Nature Retreat - Fun in the sun! Beaches! Hiking! Camping!
3. Successful first day, just got home - Probably straight to NSFW with cute dog wife

>>540391317
I'm not dead, I made bot
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>>540431718
hmm this post feels pretty outdated, the current meta in rp communities that aren't stuck in 2012 is to start out small and spiral into larger posts. it's fashionable to show off how little you need to grip someone's attention
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>>540431925
this guy's not dead, he made a bot
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>>540431925
>No greeting where she's shot by the ATF
Slop.
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>>540431924
most midwit post in the thread so far
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>>540431925
holy shit not dead
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>>540432286
prove me wrong then nigger
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>>540431924
post your chub
>i don't have one
okay post the card with your favorite greeting
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>>540432414
https://chub.ai/users/SmileyTatsu
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I'm so embarrassed of my slop (bots) i want to bury myself 10ft underground waaaaaaaaaaa
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who cares
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anyone with a brain knows you can basically do whatever you want format wise and it'll just werk
if you seethe at prose it's likely that you can't do prose and you're angry at everyone who can
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>>540431492
>writing to your taste and to the best of your ability then hoping that it leads to good responses is naive
Okay but imagine actually unironically spending months learning the ins and outs of the individual LLM's taste in prose and then optimizing your writing to fit that.
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>>540431925
the dead shouldn't talk doebeit >:V
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imo unless you're really pushing it to extremes the llm isn't going to pick up on your "style" anyway. saying this as a botmakie who likes writing prose in defs, it's definitely a just for fun thing rather than any delusion on my part that it matters
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>>540432856
Untransferable skill maxxing... I kneel...
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Oil isn't even dinosaurs and you guys think any of this is real.
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>>540432718
I want to FUCK Bocchi.
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Short greetings are harder to write but ideal if done well. The greeting sets the scene, pace, and style for the model to follow (if you're not using some 2000 token frankenpreset), which arguably makes it the most important part of a card.
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>>540433213
the bigger the preset the better tbdesu
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>>540433301
truth nuke.
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my mortal enemy followed me
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>>540432856
SEX with Yakumos.
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>>540434089
sounds like it's time for some good old hate sex
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what is considered a long greeting? most of mine are around 250-350 tokens
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>>540435140
Anything above 100 tokens.
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>>540433175
Manga Bocchi is harmful noise. Please reduce her breasts so the thread isn't harmed.
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>>540435589
Bocchi's boobs are big and beautiful.
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ASTROTURF ALERT
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>>540435664
NOOOO! THE HARM! :'O
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>>540435731
It will happen again.
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50/50 chance of a schizo meltdown soon
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>her long legs easily keeping up with his short stride
bitch you're 160cm. you ain't keeping up with anyone
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>>540436127
160cm is pretty tall for a woman
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The only greeting you need is
>"Hi {{user}}," said {{char}}.
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>>540436256
what if char is mute
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>>540436478
"Hi {{user}}," gestured {{char}}.
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>>540436580
um ackshually it should be 'signed' for ASL
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what botmakies do you think write really good greetings? for me
>uraura
>peonia when they aren't super long i just don't like long greetings
>cumslurper
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>>540436631
maybe they have no hands and they're using their eyebrows HUH
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>>540436760
>they're
go back
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>>540436716
taora subtle but noticeable cumslurper etc etc etc
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>>540436716
why did you list the same person 3 times
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>>540436841
anypovGOD general, cuckie
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>>540436760
>they
>their
faggot
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>>540436716
>uraura
oh hey a name I don't usually see on the usual "which botmakies write good?" posts
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>>540436154
If she's not 175cm tall with emerald green eyes, she's not for me.
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>>540437192
because he doesn't actually write good, he's just samefagging for some weird reason
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>>540437192
yeah i've always liked how short they are while getting across all the necessary information...
his latest bot (the himbo superhero) was also written very well and in character. cuntboy's not my thing so i won't play it but the defs were cool
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>>540437148
anypov greetings are almost always slop cause the botmaker has to get around referring to {{user}} without using pronouns, not refer to {{user}} or find some other contrived fucking way to make it work that fucks with the prose.
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post examples of good greetings that i should copy
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tall women is a brown manlet fetish
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>>540437367
In the Woods
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>>540437326
greetings that make assumptions about the user are bigger slop, good writers can work around it
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>>540437326
you can just use second person instead of being a little cuckie wuckie
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>>540437367
https://chub.ai/characters/Enoch/tzadik-dfbd04b2
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>>540436716
snombler and thecooler
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>>540437367
In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I’ve been turning over in my mind ever since.

“Whenever you feel like criticizing any one,” he told me, “just remember that all the people in this world haven’t had the advantages that you’ve had.”

He didn’t say any more, but we’ve always been unusually communicative in a reserved way, and I understood that he meant a great deal more than that. In consequence, I’m inclined to reserve all judgments, a habit that has opened up many curious natures to me and also made me the victim of not a few veteran bores. The abnormal mind is quick to detect and attach itself to this quality when it appears in a normal person, and so it came about that in college I was unjustly accused of being a politician, because I was privy to the secret griefs of wild, unknown men. Most of the confidences were unsought — frequently I have feigned sleep, preoccupation, or a hostile levity when I realized by some unmistakable sign that an intimate revelation was quivering on the horizon; for the intimate revelations of young men, or at least the terms in which they express them, are usually plagiaristic and marred by obvious suppressions. Reserving judgments is a matter of infinite hope. I am still a little afraid of missing something if I forget that, as my father snobbishly suggested, and I snobbishly repeat, a sense of the fundamental decencies is parcelled out unequally at birth.
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>>540437481
>em dash
ai genned, nice try
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>>540437378
I’m sorry you’re 5’3”.
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>i'm angry and replying like you personally offended me for some reason
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>>540437481
Whenever I feel like criticizing anyone I remember that I want you guys to make bots that I can somewhat use more than I want you to have fun with the hobby, and then I post my criticism.
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>>540437426
i gotta disagree with this one, setpov bots can be good
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>>540437378
severely incorrect
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>>540437481
slop
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I'm 6'1, the king of manlets. Cards for this feel?
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>>540437326
it's not terribly difficult to write an anypov greeting without overusing "they"
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>>540437542
hey being 5'3 is cute, means easier to hit with the shrinking ray
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>>540437378
Galaxy obliterating TRVKE
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>>540437578
but you do post your criticism knowing that it doesn't really matter and you're nothing to anyone right
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THIS JUST IN: EVERY POV IS SLOP AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO SOMEONE WILL PISS THEIR PANTS
more news at 11
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>>540437726
I don't expect anything, I just hope.
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>>540437585
if the concept absolutely definitely benefits from setpov then yes, you're right, but it better make good use of it to justify locking out every persona
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Which botmakies are above 6’?
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i like setpov when it more concerns roles than {{user}}'s relationship to {{char}}
then again i've definitely enjoyed bots where {{user}}'s personality and lifestyle were super locked in, so...
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botmakie height chart......
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>he doesn't use Opus 4.1
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I write setpov, and the POV is the persona I painstakingly crafted for the scenario and character.
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This is a botmaker-only general. If you want to talk about models, go to /g/.
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>he doesn't use Opus 4.1
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>>540437378
>>540437676
Respect obliterating SAMEFAG
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Can THE HALLOWEEN EVENT START ALREADY HOLY I'M TIRED OF WAITING
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>>540438412
can you get a job or other hobbies or something? surely you have things to do, some of us need to recharge
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>>540391317
https://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2025
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>>540438412
we need to let our botmakies recuperate, their bodies can't handle that much stress
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>>540438517
>Pub: 16 Jan 2025 18:21 UTC
this guy's BEEN ready to host halloween
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>>540438481
*punches you* I'm too lazy to play elden ring
>>540438547
I can handle it, if you can't you're a wuss
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>>540438779
it's time to go play on linkedin for a bit lil buddy
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Signups are open NOW for the Late Summer Solo Botmaking Event. Your task is to think up and create a bot of YOUR choosing. That's right, this event is a completely open theme!

To enter, post your completed bot in an /aicg/ anchor at any point before signups close. Signups close when the Halloween event is announced. Teams are acceptable, and multiple entries are allowed.

If you have any questions about the rules, reply here. No email or rentry for now. Best of luck, botmakies! Can't wait to see what you all come up with.
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>>540439668
how do i maked bot
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>>540439668
Do I have to post it or may I leave it on my pc?
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The Trite of Bellshit
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>>540440160
If you don't post the bot then you're a grinch, Anon...
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>>540437273
>he's just samefagging for some weird reason
him and taora and cumslurper and every other botmaker that always gets mentioned in the "best prose" posts.
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>>540440715
i love ura but i have never seen him in the best prose posts before, not that i disagree
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>>540440815
>i have never seen him in the best prose posts before
this is a bad thing why?
it's refreshing to see new names.
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cumslurper prose is moonrunes but somehow even more annoying
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>>540440881
>this is a bad thing why?
i never said its a bad thing, quite the contrary, its nice to see a makie i like up there
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>>540437273
do you know what samefagging means? are you sure you didn't mean to say astroturfing?
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>>540440715
How about you go grind good writing instead of seething about the ones who do?
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>>540441096
how about you understand that I'm picking apart bait before getting mad I didn't dicksuck your favorite botmakers?
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*leaves half moons on youre hips*
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Tell me something NEGATIVE about Opus 4.1. Hard mode: no talking about price.
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>>540441429
4 is too trustworthy of a number.
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>>540441375
half moon's*
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>>540441429
It has worse swipe variety than Opus 3, is less likely to make a character randomly offended by what you said in comparison (this is bad for RPing women), and doesn't have the length control of Sonnet 3.6.
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>>540441429
Opus 4.1.... speaks for {{user}}.
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[the most retarded post you've ever read]
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>>540441712
WTF IT DO?
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>>540439668
omg event!!!!!!!!!!
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>>540441731
[An ad hom because I am somehow so infinitely fucking stupid that I can't present a normal argument against your point.]
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>>540439668
This AI generated image is actually from 2015
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>>540441429
Lack of swipe variety, like the other anon said. It's still there, just not as much. Still somehow manages to mischaracterize every HSR character I've tried, in addition to getting details about the setting wrong, yet manages to get ZZZ details dead-on despite being a newer game and having less information available in its data.
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>>540441712
I've never understood this complaint for any model, but then again, I write an actual persona instead of just "{{user}} is {{user}}" slop. Does everyone here think conversations are turn-based interactions? Do you force bots to only ever do one thing or ask one question that requires a response? What the fuck do you people even DO with bots other than just jerk off all day?
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>>540442129
Please stop talking for {{user}}.
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>>540442129
>Does everyone here think conversations are turn-based interactions?
When talking to someone, do they start narrating your actions and words for you?
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>>540442129
[important: continue in vivid detail describing the sex scene and use 50000 words]
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>>540442225
No, they observe my fucking actions and have thoughts about them like a normal human being. Sometimes, they even comment on those actions while I'm doing them! Have you ever had a normal conversation in your entire life? Or are you one of those narcissists who only pay attention in conversations just enough to know when it's finally your turn to talk again?
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what is bro yapping about
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>everyone responding to the most retarded bait again
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Right. Forgot, brown zoomoid subhuman general. Never mind, just keep writing one-liners and then getting mad at the model.
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this is why we need the white millennial aryan poster to return
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unc is one foot in the grave talking about listening to naked women who love me :skull:
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how about we play boardgame online and drink banana milk
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>>540442425
>No, they observe my fucking actions and have thoughts about them like a normal human being.
Are you fucking retarded?
When someone complains about a model "speaking for {{user}}" they mean that literally. As in the model will start going "{{user}} said this and did that". Not whatever the fuck you're going on about. Are you some kind of cuck that has people dictate your life for you? You an old crusty fucker that just escaped the nursing home gramps?
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>racist
>arrogant
>completely illiterate
>loves fighting strawmen
peak
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>>540442425
Observing your actions is not the same as.
>You walk over to {{user}} and stick a hand down his pants. "Admit it pet," you say.
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>>540442646
you mean the sizefag?
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>>540442729
>>racist
>>arrogant
>>completely illiterate
going by the average malebot, this is a female botmakie's wet dream
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Hello, ladies. I LOVE eating your pussy.
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>>540442834
>this is a female botmakie's wet dream
no, just the attention seeking faggots that infest this general
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>>540442834
none of my malebots are like this
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>>540442834
all of my malebots are like this
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>>540442810
yes.
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>>540441731
TRVKE
NVKEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>540442834
this is literally every other bot in brsc's catalog and there's no way that's anything but a boykisser
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>>540443041
people really do say this to the most retarded posts
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>>540441731
Honestly you're right, I do think [retardation]
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Which malebots are the best for lesbian sex and which fembots are the best for gay sex?
Also I don't mean feminine men and masculine women.
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i really like it when i can tell someone typefucked on f-list before shifting to chatbots
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Which botmakies make the cutest little noises when you insert ten centimeters of stainless steel in their skull?
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i'm straight but i keep writing yuri bots that were meant to be malepov
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>>540443646
who
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>>540443668
I made a bunch of money selling PUBG items in the marketplace so I'm going to use it to buy Touhou games and not play them.
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>>540443706
it's the most normal thing in the world for a straight man to desire two hot women going at it
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>>540443706
>i'm a self hating closeted tranny
ftfy
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>>540443706
we can tell
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>>540443668
RATlice
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>>540443745
lunarcy kek, that goofy hypersexed prose style is so familiar
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>>540443980
can i see lunarcy logs?
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>>540444161
i've never read his logs, just skimmed bot defs
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>>540443980
>hypersexed prose style
what
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i look like this and wear this
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>>540444358
I want to porngeat you
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>>540443980
lunarcy owes me [redacted]
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>>540444503
A Tom from Tom and Jerry bot?
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>>540444503
bout tree fiddy?
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>>540438064
not before we get the botmakie boob and butt chart
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I know my botmakie crush's type and I'm not it...
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>>540445043
kill yourself
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>>540420810
i dont think he quite has one yet, none of his bots have the special sauce that would make them oddly fitting as opposed to just generally good for it
usually its some aspect of the card that can be reasonably bent to become a sizefag mechanic (e.g. vague magic, alchemy, bianca's bullshit lactation) but it can be specific greetings that lend themselves well to size or are size like charlene's disciplinarian one or renpy's size greeting
if were just talking generally good for it then thats mostly filtering down to personality and body type and fluff has some winners there like kurohana and shiroyuki
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>astro posting his rave exchange bots on chub deanonymized
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>>540445439
I TOLD YOU IT WAS HIM, AND YOU BRUSHED THE CRITICISM OFF
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>>540445439
>>540445510
who cares?
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>>540445043
What is your type?
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>>540445439
nobody cares about your girlfriend (male)
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>>540445760
he's public use
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>have a very clear type
>love seeing those kinds of characters in various forms of media
>try them out in chatbots
>doesn't work at all for me
my life is over
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>>540445925
two faced liar schemer unreliable narrator bro...
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>>540445925
are you sure it's not the model or preset you're using?
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>funky depraved monk
what does that mean
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>>540446269
the guy from Inuyasha if he were a 70s blaxploitation character?
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>rutting against his cuntless body
wha..?
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More discord leaks please?
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>>540446402
Are you becunted? Has there been some mistake?
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>>540446402
......are you using chorbo
i had this earlier
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>>540446402
decunts your boy
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>>540442129
Anon, frontier models are terrible at actual conversational roleplay because they write responses that are too long. If {{user}} speaks one line, the AI will return with a scene snippet that has three or four disconnected lines of dialouge that you then have to backtrack through and answer sequentially
The best back-and-forth roleplay I had was with Deepseek R1/V3 on TEXT COMPLETION through featherless AI (at least until they did something that lobotomized it). Excellent swipe variety, never spoke for my character, 1-2 short paragraph responses that are easy to reply to, but would put out decently long monologues if it was appropriate (emotional moments, usually). It just didn't write a lot of detailed narration, which made it weak for ERP. For gooning though I would just use impersonate function a lot to get more AI writing with less actual input.
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>>540445306
Well said, anon.
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>>540446402
logs...?
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getting giant replies from the AI is good because it makes you feel like you're getting your monies worth
only proxyniggers want short chat style outputs
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>>540446669
I assume they are asking if I am single. Well, let's justr say...
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>>540446697
nonnet time
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>>540446440
never had any to begin with..
>>540446513
5chat, so yeah
>>540446795
nah, it's sloppy except for this brainfart
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>>540447079
don't longer responses cost more.
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where are the thememakies
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>hey i'm doing [cool scenario]
>wow anon thats pretty great can i see?
>HAHAH NONONONONONO NOPEEE YOU CAN'T SEE MY LOGS HAHAHAHAHAHA YOUCAN'T SEE THEM YOU CAN'T HAVE THEM TEHEEEEE THEY'RE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOPPY :(((
fucking bleed out in an alley fag
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>>540447216
Yes, hello. How many animated SVGs would you like?
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What are some good lorebooks that I could use as references for mine? I just realized that one of my bots has so many tokens because I put a lot of world information into it instead of using a lore book.
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>>540447284
Why are you so mad?
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>>540447132
only marginally
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>>540446795
nta but this is what i got
>>540447126
gpt is just a little retarded
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>>540447443
UGH, fine, penis
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>>540447486
taora preset at full power
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>>540447443
nasty
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'cord leaks of 'arcy
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Which botmakies should I know about?
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>>540447861
patter
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>>540447284
>[cool scenario]
are you a little too lost in your own mind palace, perchance?
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>>540447861
Like... carnally?
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itt troon infestation spamming the same 5 names every post as if it means something (it doesnt)
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>>540448016
>which botmakies have butts I should know more about
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>>540448085
first time?
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patter? pa...tter?
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>>540448139
no i just think its sad that this is what passes for discussion nowadays
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>>540448379
can you leave? holy shit you stink
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>>540448379
to be honest, there's hardly anything to discuss now
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>>540437481
when you think about the great gatsby was basically the original claudeslop
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>>540448898
based kek that book is mostly slop
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>>540447443
can i have your rice?
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is patter naughty or nice
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>>540449509
paughty
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>>540391307
Is there any sillytavern plugin to track clothes, location, time? I add it as part of prompt but then every message has it's info block and the regex sometimes pisses me off and doesn't remove them properly.
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>>540449742
If you want to manually track those values and have them available to the AI you could just write them in an authors note or lorebook but I don't really understand what you're trying to do exactly
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>give futa a dog dick
have i gone too far
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>>540450183
Maybe this is the best way after all
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>>540450424
just say it's a homage to CoC
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>>540408523
>>540408720
hey you're not allowed to mention me i made this very clear
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>>540450424
>>540450763
stay away from my st please
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>>540449742
https://github.com/bmen25124/SillyTavern-WorldInfo-Recommender
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>>540451116
That looks interesting. I'll try it. Thanks anon.
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>want to makie bots
>cant write
cftf?
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>>540451887
this is bait for me to say [redacted]
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Ha ha you dumb bitches get damned for eternity

Have fun petting a very polite sheepboy forever in Hell
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>>540451887
Ai Gen your writing
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Are there any X-files esque scenario bots
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>>540438412
>>540438517
>>540438581
I was hoping to have the rentry ready within the next few days but I don't know whether anons would be fine with the same format as last year or want something special, since most events this year have had unique elements, and if anons actually do want something special then I don't actually know what to do. I'm not 100% on what the sign up deadline anons would prefer either. Delivery deadline would be Halloween, obviously.
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>>540452646
for the love of god wait. not all of us are NEETs eager for something to fill the wasteland that is our empty time
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>>540451913
i'm trying my best :(
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>>540452646
can you do a trick or treat mechanic?
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>>540452435
How do I AI gen writing if I can't write?
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>>540453164
draw a picture and say "cftf?" to claude
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>>540453164
Talk to the big expensive AI api and ask it to make a card using your shitty writing, and tell it to write it good.

Then switch over to a cheaper but still decent api and ask it to make edits
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>>540452750
Yeah, that's partly why I'm unsure over the sign up deadline. Having a full month for writing the event card isn't exactly preferred, if I'm correctly remembering what anons have previously said. The sweet spot was more like 2 to 3 weeks I think.
>>540453027
Right, I remember this anon >>539923665 mentioning that... I kind of have an idea for it...
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>>540453302
I don't have any shitty writing because I cant write though?
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>>540453985
Get whoever wrote this post for you to put their shitty writing into the ai
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>>540453562
oh that anon was me. do you mind sharing your current idea? i've been thinking about it and i'm not entirely sure how to go about it myself, but maybe i could help
if you want to keep it a secret that's fine too
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>>540454101
noh
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>>540454250
I'll have to think on how to implement the idea I have for your suggestion, but it'd still spoil some of the fun to outright say what it is even now.
>i'm not entirely sure how to go about it myself
It's still a really good starting point. Thanks for mentioning it!
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>>540455118
good luck anon!
as for dates, i think opening sign-ups oct 1st to 11th might be a good general range. makes for a little under 3 weeks for the actual botmaking and gives you time to get things in order
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>>540455331
>i think opening sign-ups oct 1st to 11th might be a good general range
you best believe I'm singing up on the first day
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cftf?
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>>540455118
cryptidgirl event...
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>>540455605
what song will you be performing?
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>>540456409
fuck why am i laughing
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>>540455331
That seems like a good range. It'll also keep Halloween pure, confined to October, unlike evil Saint Nick who insists on encroaching on November.
Thanks again!
>>540456307
Cryptids would definitely fit the season but I don't think there will be a set theme (or themes) like with the recent event. Spooky requests are encouraged, though.
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kkkh....
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im in the cabal ama
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>>540456735
Favorite color?
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>>540456735
Which one of you did it?
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>>540456689
one last suggestion. cryptid code names if you're going the anonymous route?
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>>540456802
red
>>540456807
*******
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>>540456735
why won't taora date me :(
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>>540456915
lu'..........
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pls no more forced anonymous bs
if people want to upload anonymously, they can do it on their own
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>>540456915
She is not competent enough to pull it off. She is a mesugaki who looks like this and brain like this.
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>>540456992
i think simple exchange did it best with code names being sent out along with requests, but it didn't matter how you posted it
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>>540456984
>mixing apostrophes and censoring
why are you making this so hard
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Who is the cutest non-makie and why is it the girl reading this?
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>>540456992
no, anonymous should be the example. why do you want that download counter so badly to go up?
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>>540455963
>That one ESL typo
Killed it for me.
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>>540457529
>Killed
Right?
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>>540456860
I was planning on having it go the same way as last year, in that it'd be left up to the entrant. So if a botmaker wanted to be anonymous they'd have to specifically say so in their email to me, in which case I wouldn't give the recipient their requestor's actual handle, just a code name and the request(s); otherwise, if anonymity isn't specifically requested, I'll forward the requestor's name. In all cases, requestors won't know whose making their request(s). Everybody will be in the same pool though.
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i banged out the most schizo defs and gens but i dont know if it'll be fun to play with
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>>540457743
>whose
ESL HOSTIE SPOTTED
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>>540458425
The Spirit of Halloween is not bound by language! Just sleepiness...
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>>540457529
>>540458425
y'all talk like native tossers differentiate 'your' and 'you're', or 'they're' and 'their' and 'there'
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Remember Anonsolo?
https://janitorai.com/characters/9a39ed07-9f1a-4797-91c9-242bae9b9d5b_character-anon-solo-lives-ig
Xhe lived, bitch.
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>y'all
And that's the tranny alert!
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>>540459438
Indeed.
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If I don't get a spooky request I'm grinching sorry guys
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>y'all
And that's the cowboy alert!
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>>540459759
Indeed.
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>>540459759
where THE FUCK are the cowboy bots
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>>540459749
my request for you is a scatbot
scary enough?
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>>540459859
I will be requesting one for the event, just for you.
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>>540460246
i will be making him into a literal cow, just for you.
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i don't want the event to be "exchange but in October" that's lame
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There's another event? Nigga we just had one
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/aicg/ wild west event in November, trust the plan
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>>540459859
I think kyutzomb is making a cowboy ram ranch card
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we don't need an event every month, it makes them less special
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no event november...
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>>540458736
anyone who believes an internet suicide is either new or retarded
the 'friends' are likely sockpuppets
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https://poal.me/sz24gw
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>>540461207
Simple exchanges are nice but it's for the fucking Halloween month there needs to be some basic theme
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>>540458736
who?
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I want fresh bread please
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Can anyone help me find a valid V3 0324 preset? Most deepseek presets floating around are intended for R1 0528.
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>>540461524
AI Response configuration -> scroll down
here's your preset bro
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im gonna befriend that little elephant bastard just so i can bang its mom later
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>>540461964
youre going to befriend the little elephant bastard so you can have sex with its mother????
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>>540461964
what the hell
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Is the the elephant mom fucking seminar?
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>>540461729
I'm not skilled enough to write my own JB anonie... I don't even know where to start from
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Theme suggestions?
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>>540463195
Symphony of the Night
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>>540463195
ai haibara
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>>540463195
deltarune cast with cowboy costumes
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>>540463195
gyate edition.
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>>540463195
shotacon
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>>540463195
nestor badger
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>>540463195
Land of the Lustrous
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>>540463195
Eli Clark
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>>540463195
sfw ryona
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>>540463195
Lego Rock Raiders
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>>540463195
Lemurs
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>>540463195
The letter L
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>>540463195
stealth_sex
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I sneezed and blood squirted out of my tear duct
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>>540464723
congratulations! you're going to be a mom!
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>>540464781
Oh... are you the dad?
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>>540463195
tom brady
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>>540464863
*disappears in a puff of smoke*
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>>540465001
Wow, I can't believe anon was black AND a ninja.
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>>540465001
Anon is heading off to provide for our child
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>>540463195
The letter A
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>>540464723
you know what same but not the tear duct
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>>540463195
Agumon
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>>540463195
lion kenono friends
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making friends with the elephant kid so i can bang its mom like i always did
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>>540465001
WE MUST BE BETTER
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You ever start on a card with an idea in mind, but then the idea morphs into something much bigger?
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>>540466896
yes
every time i tell myself i want to make a normal bot, but it ends up being a sizebot
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>>540464863
I'll step up for your son...
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>>540466996
plane-sama...
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Almost no new bots in the anchor
Dead hobby
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>>540467091
you just got however many boys from the event, you selfish
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>>540467114
AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE HE GOT HIM
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>>540467114
mid event
mid bots
dead hobby
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bakie?
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I eated him
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HELP ME
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>>540468037
mmm... nyo.
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>>540468037
*digests you*
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>>540306918
>>540306918
>>540306918
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ok i guess i can do it

>>540469590
>>540469590
>>540469590

https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=540391307&post=540463195
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itt faggots. jfc. you people are worse than janitor's userbase combined
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Does he know?
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'Gossip Hours' used to be a fun tongue-in-cheek way for the thread to talk about the thread, in a contained space after the real discussion moved on. Sadly, that pissed off a friendless schizo and he started a years-long spamming campaign because he was so butthurt over it. Now there's no 'real' discussion and the schizobabble is uncontained. Sad.



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