Mongrel edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>540151336>Thread QuestionAre looks important for a romance?
There aren't very many crpg romances who would still love a normie who wasn't the special chosen one. I guess the bg3 romances qualify, since Tav is a random normie and they all love him/her.But this brings us to another topic, which is that too many crpg feature the protagonist being a special chosen one. It's tiresome. I loved that bg3's Tav is just some random normie who was grabbed by the tentacle.I really hope owlcat tones it down for Dark Heresy, and you're just a normal acolyte. But I know that's a futile hope, and you're going to be a full inquisitor by the end of the first chapter and then later you're going to discover the ability to control the tyrant star or some shit lol.
>>540408602pretty damning of the previous games
>>540408587>Are looks important for a romance?For female romances yes or you get screaming. Valerie YOU UGLY BITCH. I want to say not as important for male characters but then I remember what Lann looks like. So yes.
>>540408587>Are looks important for a romance?No[spoier]unless it's real life, then yes
>>540409040>Valerie is considered a looker>gets a small facial scar>EWWWW I'M SO UGLY NOW NO ONE WILL MARRY METhat always felt so forced
>>540409040Lann's problem isn't his looks. It's his cringe personality
What's up with all these pointless "procure reagents" locations in wotr? Crafting is a waste of time.
>>540409309Combination of both for me personally
>>540409465I like crafting scrolls and having a wizard and woljif learn them
>>540408587>TQObviously, anyone saying no is retarded. It WILL matter, you can look beyond it but that's loving someone despite it.
Attention, anons! You know the drill. Enjoy your time with your waifu, for the end might be nigh
>>540408847Name one memorable story where the protagonist wasn't the chosen one but Joe the human male fighter (formerly a farmer)
>>540409652The only time it doesn't matter is in crpgs, because those characters aren't real
>>540409950Kingmaker
>>540408847that was one of the plot twists we had during early planning but we decided to change it so that even after this game, the tyrant star remains mostly a mystery. So you're half right, we already caught ourselves
>>540410097I said memorable
>>540408774I imagine that making your agent who specializes in field work and personal investigation a blank would be ill advized, so I doubt it. But I can see them finally giving a blank companion. Though I doubt they will be well-written
>>540409040zero reason to tolerate an awful personality if they don't even have good looksit's why valerie is shit
>>540409950Lord of the Rings. Frodo is a random nobody, from a species of random nobodies. That's part of the point of Lord of the Rings, anyone can be a hero, even a humble hobbit. And it's the greatest story ever told. As for crpg, Kingmaker and bg3 both feature random nobody protagonists, and they're both better games for it, because the genre is oversaturated with "chosen one" stories. It's a joke at this point.
>>540408526Would be cool if they did include this in DH and you kill the elves by standing near them
>tta>someone on your team is dying nowwell rip. i don't have a fucking scroll of restoration how did he even hit level 3? all i did was rest twice.>there's scroll in the cryptonly one i imagine, so i guess i won't save the sick ghoul guy.
>>540409465halfbaked system.they saw the awesome and popular crafting mod for kingmaker and halfassed a knockoff in wotr. typical owlcat
>>540409950every great story ever written? do you honestly believe a protagonist solving problems just by being born special is good writing? a huge part of what makes RPGs satisfying is the transition from zero to hero, it's the entire point of dnd for fuck's sakesomehow the modern games have completely forgotten about this and now we have level 1 wizards who are also lovers of the goddess of magic running around
>>540409950the hobbit, lord of the rings, conan
>>540411519that was a good crpg
>>540410465Frodo was exceptionally lucky at every turn of the story, which can be interpreted as divine fortune, aka being the chosen one
>>540412119>If a literally who joe schmo doesn't die on the first page from a stray bullet it means he's the chosen oneFuck off, retard
>>540412242I asked chatgpt and it said something similar and it's never wrong
>>540411519>illiad, odyssey>epic of gilgamesh>beowulf>dragon quest>dune>star wars
>>540412595>>illiad, odysseyThe only "Chosen One" in the entire Troy myth is Paris, and he was only chosen to fuck up the hardest.
>>540412854But none of them are male human fighters lvl 1, anon. They are half-gods, heroes of Greece
>>540412854>Forgetting about Achilles>So chosen everyone shat their pants in his presence and his mom actively interfered
>>540413001Achilles wasn't "chosen" for anything except dying in combat. Everyone shat their pants because Achilles was the xXxMurderFucker69xXx of ancient Greece.
>>540412854odysseus and agamemnon were not farmers. they were pirates, and kings. and odysseus was chosen by athena.
Iliad but it's just a random greek warriorEpic of AnonymousNobodyDune but it's a random fremen warriorStar Wars but Luke isn't the son of the greatest jedi ever
>>540413176I'm sorry is this about Chosen Ones of legend and prophecy marked for a special snowflake fate, or is anyone who has ever accomplished anything at all in their lives beyond getting up from bed now a Chosen One for the purposes of this argument?
Greek myth CRPG when? There already is an ARPG about it.
>>540413353>im gonna narrow my definition because i got btfoconcession accepted. not that it even matters how we define chosen one, it's enough he was nothing like a level 1 farmer.
>As to what that world is, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 takes place in Seattle in 2024 and sees Phyre waking up from a roughly 100-year slumber. They are an Elder Kindred, which means they've been undead for at least 300 years but now have a big gap in their knowledge.Here's your nobody protag bro
>>540413628hades 2 came out recently
>>540413879nobody is playing this
>>540413879why dress like you're from 1924 when you can dress like a homosexual
>>540413879w h o aI know kung fu
>>540413879>They are an Elder Kindred, which means they've been undead for at least 300 years but now have a big gap in their knowledge.How elder?
>>540413786The definition of Chosen One is someone who gets to be the protagonist that does the cool and centric stuff because fate just simply says so, and nobody else, even if they're more competent and prepared, can possibly hope to take that role because fate just says so because he's the Chosen One.Nothing Odysseus or Agamemnon do is anything like that. Odysseus gets to be ultimate reason why Troy falls, protagonist of the Odyssey, and favorite of Athena, because he worked to acquire the skills that got him to carry out those things. Another person could have taken his place if they were just as cunning. Agamemnon isn't a Chosen One any further than just simply happening to be a king and the brother of Menelaus. Even then he's mostly just the interested part that happens to bring the purse, he's hardly that much of a protagonist.
>>540413879What a fucking shit premise for a vampire game. At least to drop you in like that. Redemption actually did it pretty well as far as story goes, maybe the only of any sort of vampire themed game that actually gave you some sense of scale in aging as a vampire.
>>540414235https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DajVKAkL50
>>540414697>maybe the only of any sort of vampire themed game that actually gave you some sense of scale in aging as a vampire.What? There is barely any scale considering that you, essentially a newborn, is able to climb up the power rankings so fast that even other characters remark on it.
>>540414697>>540414848It seems I made a mistake, you mentioned Redemption, I thought Masquerade. I concede
>>540414509literally doesn't matter.you are messing up the logic negation. what is the negation of >every great story ever written is NOT a story where the protagonist wasn't the chosen one but Joe the human male fighter (formerly a farmer)?
>>540415235To be fair almost no one even remembers Redemption was made, lol.
>>540415275I don't see the anon you originally replied to ever saying the protagonist has to be explicitly a total nobody dirt farmer. That was only some bs you came up with to exaggerate the point. And honestly, I don't care for it.
>>540415275if you're gonna be obnoxious at least have the decency to double check your sentences
>>540409950the odyssey
>>540411993based and actually answering the question correctly cutting through all the autism and bait-pilled
Let's dispel the myth that anyone here has read these works
>>540413786>>540415275Your logic of how the only way to not be a chosen one is to be a human male fighter level 1 (formerly farmer) doesn't make sense, because in that case Luke Skywalker fits both profiles completely.
they're really good tho? way better than owlslop
>>540416607I read the Odyssey again because of some gacha.
>>540416607Well, claims such as that the Iliad isn't about literal demigod chosen ones is sure making that case seem airtight.
>>540408587>Are looks important for a romance?Yes. If I'm gonna have to put up with a companion's retardation the least she can do is be hot.
>>540416607I read the odyssey in ancient greek at school
>>540408587In video games? Not really, I guess she can't be utterly repulsive but most female romance options are good looking because they were designed to be. Also in video games I don't project my real life physical tastes much. For example I like tits and long hair but don't care about boob size or hair length in picking a romance.>>540414509>The definition of Chosen One is someone who gets to be the protagonist that does the cool and centric stuff because fate just simply says so, and nobody else, even if they're more competent and prepared, can possibly hope to take that role because fate just says so because he's the Chosen One.Well, since you're talking about the ancients, their view at least in Homeric works is that fate is the ultimate driver of men's destinies. Fate decides who are demigods like Achilles and who are nobody scrubs that get two brief lines and a quick death to make the hero look good in his aristeia. Fate decides who will triumph and go home and it decides the hour of everyone's demise. I think they would find it hard to understand your dislike for "chosen one heroes" but just my opinion. The idea of "everyman hero" is for the most part a modern construct.
>>540408587That OP image is pissing me off. Why do trannies always have to "redesign" women to be way more ugly and grotesque?
>>540416607I read Journey to the West and the Ulster cycle cause I loved Wukong and Cú Chulainn. All other mythology I read was just to autistically argue about Fate servants on this site.
I like how Nyrissa's biggest grievance with LK's curse isn't that destroying 1k kingdoms is a monstrous thing to do, but that the number is too big. And this is before he supposedly took away her """"good""" side.
>>540419668If you paid attention, the definition of a "kingdom" is extremely permissive, so that in itself wasn't that big of an issue. Causing Stag Lord's band of bandits was already enough to count.
>>540414509Odysseus in the Odyssey is regarded as the first modern hero for a reason, he's a normal man facing off against a variety of supernatural creatures by using wits and guile, motivated by the earthly desire of returning home to his family. Very much unlike anything in the Iliad
>>540419548What do you mean "redesign"? That is what she looks like in the campaign book. Owlcat redesigned her to make her less utterly repulsive in the video game.
548You're fucking stupid and don't deserve my (You)
>>540419535>Well, since you're talking about the ancients, their view at least in Homeric works is that fate is the ultimate driver of men's destinies.You're right, technically, but we're of course talking about it from a wider narrative standpoint, the concept of what a chosen one is in modern day, not in antiquity (where by that logic, everyone would be a chosen one, meaning no one really is).
>>540420060>Pozzed trannies at paizo make a woman hideous because they fear attractive females and hate straight menSame shit really
>>540419879That was a unique case. Most kingdoms would've been actual legitimate kingdoms and destroying them would require ruining many lives one way or another. The fact that the number was the first thing that came to her mind and not the act itself says a lot.
>>540420505Wenduag is not a romance in the campaign. She's just a mini boss. That's why she looks like a freakish monster.
>>540420539>Most kingdoms would've been actual legitimate kingdoms and destroying them would require ruining many lives one way or another.Another one that counted was the little village with the couple.Another one was Nyrissa trying to kill only (You) by ambushing you right after you've set up your barony and it's still just a handful of shitty buildings and imported contruction materials from Jamandi Aldori.No, the definition really is basically just about anything at all that declares itself to be an authority of any kind. Wouldn't even be surprised if the only reason she didn't use the kobolds, mites and goblins as the last few grains was that she didn't realize they were there (and if she had, she'd have found the briar too).
>>540420932>and if she had, she'd have found the briar tooI always assumed the Reddit King put it there for Tartuccio to find, otherwise it makes no sense how she and her sisters scoured Stolen Lands for millenia and couldn't find it while this dickhead found it in a few days.
>>540421197By the same rule of how she didn't find the kobolds and mites, I'm just gonna assume LK did some fey fuckery that made it impossible for her and her sisters to be able to see what was near that tree.
>>540419668She was never good, she was always a selfish cunt not deserving of forgiveness
>>540420932>No, the definition really is basically just about anythingShe didn't even think of that in the first place. Lantern King had to spoonfeed her, because her question was "where will I find that many kingdoms?" She was more than ready to destroy kingdoms and was only whining about the number. She's a cunt and gets maced
>>540424756Hyperfocusing on one single line while ignoring her regret and vow to make up for what she did in the secret ending, or that her motivation in the first place was to help people and create a place where they could live in peace, just makes me think you fucked up getting the secret ending and are just now sour grapes af about it.
>>540423720>>540424756Dont you fucking talk like that about my wife, go romance your cuck queen or demonic desert coon abomination faggots lmao
nyrissa was hotter when she was evil
Kingmaker but it's about the tax policy of the new king/queen
>>540425893Aliance with evil Nyrissa ending is pretty kino.
>>540409950Star Wars Episode 4 A New Hope
>>540426526Does she fuck you though?
>>540426813Since she was stripped of the capacity to love she probably doesn't care about fucking anymore.
>>540426813>>540427043Pretty sure she dream fucks the leaders of the kingdoms she plans on destroying.
>>540409950Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens
>>540427201I am not becoming dream eskimo brothers with the Stag Lord and Irovetti
>>540427201Nah, if she actually put out, neither Stag Lord's or Irovetti's motivations would make sense. Their whole thing is that she cockteased them and then disappeared once she got what she wanted. It's straight up what she does to you at the start of the game.
>>540427043There is always the option of hate fucking, evil Nyrissa letting loose on your cock after centuries of being a raging femcel must a wild experience.
>sneaks into your room>bitches at you about a relic that isn't even yours>zero dialogue options to explain reasonably that it was Theodora's and you have no clue what the fuck it isYrilet is a cunt and this is Horizon in ME2 all over again. I should have just shot her on Janus again.
>>540427682>>zero dialogue options to explain reasonably that it was Theodora's and you have no clue what the fuck it isMan I remember failing that check and my RT was just absolutely clueless why she was seething so I just changed the subject.
>>540427682Yeah can you believe people simp for this
>>540416607Almost every book listed is required reading for middle school or high school, did you grow up in a 3rd world country?
>>540428509Even 3rd world countries require that if they bother actually teaching English.
>>540428509no they arent
Like George to Lennie, no matter how much you love her you know Camellia is mentally impaired and a danger to yourself and everyone else. And you have to put her down
I wanna smooch her.
>>540428509I don't read books that are more than 30 pages long
>>540428686>writes arent instead of aren't You can just say yes.
>You can just say yes.
>>540428870So do I.
>>540429945based
>>540429945Post the full thing.
Hot take: changing the Worm That Walks to a Swarm That Walks was fucking stupid
>>540431969Explain yourself. Bugs >>>> Worms
Okay so I was playing through Ivory Sanctum and I accidentally clicked on 'attack cultists' instead of 'signal the jerribeth guys'Is this gonna fuck me over from getting the answers from Jerribeth? Should I just go back?
>>540408587>TQwhat matters is how much of a slut she is.
What spells combo do I pick at the strange machine in excavated ruins in SoU?
Magic Deceiver is so much fun, I love turning entire rooms of demons into dogs.
>>540437062bratty KC needs shapechange immunity correction
>>540437062magic deception is immoral
Anons, I need some help.I just finished Rogue Trader, so I'm not worried about major spoilers anymore.I now want to try doing a Chaos Heretic playthrough, but I have several questions.1. Is there going to be a chaos themed dlc in the near future? I'm currently really disappointed that there's not an explicitly chaos worshiping companion, let alone love interest.2. If you are going full chaos, does the Lord Captain ally with Uralon, Kunrad, and the rest of them, or does the story have you kill them to try and take their place? I was toying with the idea of being a Malal worshiper, but if you're supposed to befriend all the cultists and traitor marines, then that wouldn't really make sense.3. How blatant and openly heretical is the Lord Captain in a chaos playthrough? Are you supposed to be pretending to be loyal to the Emperor, and that you merely have some eccentricities as well as cruel behaviors? Or do you end up being openly honest about it, and corrupt everyone to chaos?
>>540440968>chaos playthrough don't. do a iconoclast or dogma one instead
>>5404409681. I for one and glad idira wasn't a chaos cultist, you can make whats her face from the first dlc a chaosfag and I think she has a unique chaos romance ending2. you recruit uralon and kill kunrad, most of your hardline dogmatists leave you (argenta, heinrix, the space marine) i forget if pasqal leaves or stays.3. its all over the goddamn place, sometimes its just putting yourself before the emperor, and other times its you shouting I FUCKING LOVE CHAOS with argenta and heinrix giving you a weird look and then moving on.
>>540440968>Is there going to be a chaos themed dlc in the near future?1. Probably not. The route is unfinished and Owlcat doesn't care. You can make Kibbellah and Solomorne go chaos. Marazhai has a great chaos romance ending imo but I assume you want a girl. 2. You get Uralon and hes broken, not over-powered just broken. Ulfar, Argenta and Heinrix leave you. I think Yrliet might?3. Blatant and nobody cares until act 4.
Owlcats writing style reminds me alot of vivziepop, they should collaborate.
So what's the correct answer here /crpg/?
/crpgg/ scholars would call the odyssey cringe and reddit
>>540441504I already have.>>540441750>>540442842Ah, so it sounds like the player actually does side with the Word Bearers, rather than trying to usurp their strength.I guess a Malal themed Lord Captain wouldn't make much sense then...
>>540444831they are nice to have but aren't vital to making a good crpg, bg1 is one of my favorites
>>540442842>Ulfar, Argenta and Heinrix leave you. I think Yrliet might?Yeah they all leave together from Footfall at the end of act 4, awkwardly riding off in a shared shuttle they all chipped in to buy passage on
>>540444831It's not "sororitas romance"It's Argenta romance specifically because she's so pleasant and likable. Not just any sister will do.
>>540427682>bitches at you about a relic that isn't even yours>it was Theodora's and you have no clue what the fuck it isCome on Elantach, how stupid do you think I am. Everything is "Theodora's" fault, whomever she is.Seriously though, later in Cumrag, you can tell her>I already told you that thing belonged to Theodora, it's not mineeven though you can't actually tell her that, so there is SUPPOSED to be an option like you describe, but it just isn't there.
>>540448830if you pass an awareness check back when she has a melty in the trophy room you can figure out what she's crying about and say its theodoras
>>540448531They should beat Yrliet to death together
>>540448531imagine the fucking shuttle ride lmaooo
>>540449365Oh ok that makes more sense, I must have forgotten
>>540449737she still storms out but you get to have moral superiority
>Don't mind me! >You young people just carry on with your little game like I'm not here
Do you guys just recreationally speedread through all these games and then get angry about stuff you skipped past
God Ulfar is a boring old trannySpouting out endless z-grade blank verseIt's not even in any sort of meter
>>540450147Yrlietard is horribly written
>>540451373She has like three different personalities depending on who's writing her that day.>gentle and supportive>complete autist, like vulcan-tier>aggressively racist and mean
Is Amiri/Barbarian even usable? What a shit class.
>>540451373
>>540452115I would use Amiri, if you catch my meaning
>>540452115what was the point of all the owlkek classes if so many are shitit's not like you're getting reactivity from them
>>540429324that's a funny skit
barb is better than fighter if you pick the right barb powers and have someone buff the barb to cover their defenses for them
>>540451373The part where she literally set a bomb on your ship and then called you a slur ruined her for me
what do eldar eatdoes someone cook for yrliet while you're all traveling
>>540454639They eat a somewhat more carnivorous diet than humans. Primitive exodite Eldar live from hunting.She just eats in the officer's mess, leading to many amusing misunderstandings, none of which are implemented ingame
>>540454496>The part where she literally set a bomb on your shipThings that never happened
CRPG for this feelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkHdBf-8PZE
>>540456045Sorry but yrlpoop is a bad character
>>540456045Ok it didn't happen but imagine if it did I hate Yrliet so much
Yrliet makes me poop in my pants from pure hatred
Every night I fall asleep squeezing my Yrliet body pillow in pure rage.
CRPG for this feelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr12Lfo4dO4
how to tell a girl you're seeing that you're the Knight Commander of the Fifth Crusade
When I fuck my wife I imagine she's Yrliet and it unlocks a kind of animalistic rape-mode which my wife loves I hate Yrliet terribly
>>540458463>>540457701>>540459761You simp so hard for a woman who sees you as a animal, refuses to touch you and leaves your forever LOL
>>540458463>>540458678>>540459761Their fragility is revealed
Even R*zard finally saw the light
>>540459786*an animal
>>540460218Thank you for the clarification
Why do people get annoyed at melee pyro in RT?It's almost as autistic as people who complain about multiclassing in pathfinder.
>>540460447Please rewrite this post to include yrliet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVD1-2cLKjA
>>540460447>pYRo>YR>Yrliet NOTHAPPY
>>540460745I know its you Yrlietard. You post Aisloppa and name all your files >>540452635Take meds
>>540460998I apologize for your schizo innerworkings, I played RT once and hated 40k. You are, my friend, mistaken.
>>540461073Innocence proves nothing
>>540460745anon drained an ocean to produce this
Baking a cake in the middle of the night with my beautiful wife Minaghohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qx2lMaMsl8
>>540460745i portrait swapped and modelswapped minahgo with linzi
>>540425893>nyrissa>hotShe's the ugliest character in owlshart games. It's like they went out of their way to make a supposedly beautiful character look like a nigger's ass
>>540428365I can. The number of incels retards has been steadily rising lately
imo argenta was the first owlcat character that was considered cute in setting that i also thought had a cute portrait
>>540428650>if they bother actually teaching English.Are you retarded? All those books are translated to virtually every language on earth. Not to mention that most of them weren't even written in english
>>540462062The RT artist was very good
>>540448531>they all chipped in to buy passage onUlfar or Jimmy just requisition one of yours, like they always do. Who's gonna stop them? Certainly not your goons
>Minagho: kiss my dainty hoof
>>540462316Its multiple people they commission
>>540462398https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e66p68_VsfI
>>540444831Its the easiest way to make the player have emotional investment in the story, so I dont mind it. I enjoyed romancing the twins in Kingmaker. RPGs solely lack the option to have a best friend forever journey though, where you have a companion who is completely unromanceable and is just your bro no matter what you do. I guess Jackie from Cyberpunk comes close, except he fucking dies. I also enjoyed Korgan from BG2 and Oghren from Origins. Nobody else really comes close because there's this weird separation and usually a romance shoehorned in, so you need to walk on eggshells and watch what options you pick otherwise you end up fucking your bro by accident. This almost happened to me with Gale in BG3
>>540413176Odysseus personally ploughs a field, in the myth, before going off to war. In what way is he not a farmer?
>>540444831I don't think about them at all. I don't buy games based on whether they have romance or not. Those who do should neck themselves immediately
>>540413879>fire, but like, spelled with a ph and a y
>>540463074>ploughs a fieldThat was a metaphor. He had gorillion kids with his wife. It's her field that he's ploughed
you are now aware that i and j are the same
>>540463074He's a wealthy landowner, the lord of his island
>>540463225Okay so what does it mean in the metaphor when Palamedes places Odysseus' son Telemachus in front of Odysseus' plough, which has a donkey and an ox pulling it, and Odysseus veers around the son, thus ruining his gambit of dodging the draft by pretending to be mad?
Also Russian retards, where is your ancient language? Cyril just came along and "gave it to you" lol sad, pathetic
>>540428870
valeriebros...
>>540463376Don't kinkshame is what it meant. Let the man fuck his wife in peace
>>540463225>He had gorillion kids with his wife.Name one besides Telemachus
>>540463460I'm retarded. It's not his wife's. He just fucked various roastoids. He just loved ploughing those fields, damn
I love playing roles on my computer.
>>540462586>>540462398ew
Guys I really think that actually the """cult""" of Baphomet is not that bad.Hear me out: In a world with no possibility of upward mobility, Bapho-gang provides a cool community as well as ways to advance in life with opportunities that you never thought possibleJust light the candles in the way set out in our booklet and say the words and you're almost there!Realizing your own potential is just a small step away.
>>540464302https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj5L9SYhoSE
>>540464539lamashtu cucked you with a literal bull and passed them off as your kids, goat boy
>>540465640Every time you do this, an entire species of waterfowl goes extinct.
>>540465882fake news
>>540465893You can count on me to misbehave
>>540465893That's the parking lots actually
my beautiful wife Minaghokissing your dainty hoofsmoochy smooch
bro night out with Staunton, getting him some attentionthat's all that would be needed to avoid the red morning massacre
>>540463074>>540463376is that really part of the myth? i don't recall that, and i checked the illiad just now and didn't see it.in the first place, odysseus is a king with servants and a palace, a pirate, a skilled fighter and tactician, and the commander of his kingdom's forces in the war at the start of the story. there is probably who is less of a level 1 farmer among all the greeks.
>>540469591In those days, men were more distinguished, so even a common farmer could be a commander of armies
>>540469896and have a palace with servants? with enough wealth that his wife can comfortably live for 10 years without him? to host tournaments?common farmers had it pretty good. achilles was wrong to think so poorly of them
What's the best way to kill Maraz as a dogmatic player? Last time I just shot him in the arena which was anti-climatic to say the least. I'mg dogmatic so I assume there won't be an option to feed him to daemons.
>>540471186Arrest him (ie recruit him), take him with you back to the ship, and hand him over to Jimmy for interrogation. He's a useful high-level prisoner and may know much if properly motivated.I wish there was a dogmatic option for stopping them from killing him in The Pit eg>has it occurred to you imbeciles that I know what I'm doing and I have my reasons? Marazhai stays for now.
>>540471410Do you get any sort of satisfying resolution for that? I want this faggot to suffer.
>>540471535You get this dialogueJimmy is as happy as a clamIt's kinda neat but there isn't much to it.There are various other ways to dispose of him. I know that you can feed him to mandrakes just before you leave Cumrag but I've never done it. You need to be careful not to accidentally have his romance active by that point.
Romancing Jae as Dogmatic Fanatic
>>540471670That's still pretty underwhelming. Can heretics feed him to daemons or am I expecting too much from the frauds over at Owlcat?
>>540472015>Can heretics feed him to daemonsYep. There's a whole quest for it.
>>540408587How come Wenduag looks so much hotter in the video game?
>>540472550She wasn't even a character in the tabletop game, just a miniboss
>hidden mechaniclovely. so in a game where the mechanics want you to rest a lot, there's a hidden mechanic that all of your slaves take damage when you rest. and tools to heal them are very rare.honestly feels like i should reload. i can't clear the whole act without sleeping a few times
>>540472884>1 damageOh noooo
>>540473062it's a lot when you have 4hp
>>540472208Well I know what I'm doing in my final run.
More people would go Heretic if it was a secret thing, so that part of the fun is deceiving your followers.
>I serve the Prince of Excess!>Rogue Trader! *Argenta giggles* You are so funny
>>540474019she wants to fuck so bad
Owlkek's YT poll about romanceOver 7k votes only a small number including me, said they don't care about romance.
>>5404753367k votes in 24 hours feels like a lot of engagement for Owlcock
lol grease
>>540475336>cucking the EmperorLorgar would be proud.
this somehow does not fill me with confidence
>>540476474They're his daughters, not his brides.
>>540475336I'd rather get a new waifu then have Argenta desu.
>>540476731the ultimate and final cuck
>>540477381I never got this shitty psyop
>>540475336I love playing the role of a doll kisser
>>540477018Valerie, but a sororitas
>>540477507there was a funny post about it once.there's no psyop or whatever. schizo
>through the ashesshould i get blind fight? it's pretty much a wasted feat if i don't face anything that's invisible or concealed... and level 3 is pretty early to be facing those.but i just fought a level 8 necromancer and a level 9 fighter
does this just suck
it was a mistake taking a class that does great with charges for TtA. I haven't even charged five times in 7 hours of gameplay.But when it works, boy does it work.
>>540479785Mounted combat is shit in general
>>540476731If they're his daughters, and Lorgar is his son, that means the Sororitas are Lorgar's sistersWhat kind of sick freak would want to fuck his own sister?
>>540480532Sable company marine absolutely demolishes it with their flying charges
>>540482517i should buy that dlc, then. seems fun.i'm guessing you can't mount before 7?
cute cassia by ras
>>540483324You get pretty much the entire kit fully functional at level 1.
>>540482021charname, of course
>>540482021Hawke, of course
>>540482021Got to keep the divine bloodline pure.
>>540483796wow.that's crazy.
>>540482021My jellybrain brother, he's a queer fellow
>>540483764He'd do better to drop the dumbass selfinsert and just draw the characters doing interesting stuff
>>540483764why does the author use the sociopath face for "purge xenos/behead xenos"?he's probably fine with beheading all sorts of humans but no, xenos is where we draw the line
>>540485019>he's probably fine with beheading all sorts of humansOnly heretics
>>540485313but he uses the psychopath/sociopath face for "kill heretics". yet according to you, he's fine with it?that shouldn't be the case
>>540485535Oh I didn't see that I think prime reality R*szard Trader is a laid back guy and doesn't behead anyone. Disagreements are settled with kart racing and beach volleyball Rouge Trader Kart would sell well I think
>>540485019>>540484776Just ignore raztard posts
I love the random guy from reddit updates general
>>540444831>>540475336I'm not against romance, I think it's a nice side RP option and side-story that expands some characters if done well. But I think considering it important for a CRPG is dumb. The actual important things are good story, good gameplay, good characters and encounter design and choice and consequences. Romance is not important at all for a CRPG being good and is usually less than 2% of content.
>>540485729>doesn't behead anyonei kinda doubt it. he's probably fine with beheading, for example, nazis in a video game. he's definitely a xenos sympathizer
You're weirdly obsessed with this guy
>>540487919he's reddits favorite lolcow
What's a lolcow?
>>540488679means he's from kiwifarms
>>540488679ask urban dictionary
>>540488472>lolcowDo some research and use the term properly, retard fag
>>540488679Someone who's a source of laughs, but not in the sense of being funny, but embarassing himself. I.E. milked for laughs like a lolcow
>>540485019>>540485535holy persecution compleximagine feeling so threatened by fictional space elves
>>540490790take your meds, schizo. you're hallucinating again.
>>540490790>imagine feeling so threatened by fictional space elvesReminder
>>540490960you are far too secure to keep posting publicly sis
>>540491060>sinking deeper and deeper into delusionsat this point, replying to you is probably messing with your mental health
When I close my eyes all I see is redditman and yrliet kissingI am not obsessed
My Chaotic Cute wife.
>muh dollies
>>540492650CE is short for CutE
why are owlcat's puzzles so boring
>>540495634You've not seen the best of it. Make sure to complete all of Nenio's quests to see it.
will osiris have puzzles
>>540495634at least i've solved all of them>>540498852Do you like the puzzles?
why didn't the scroll of remove blindness remove my blindness?
>>540495634They need to be relatively basic to be accessible, which generally makes then boring. Not everyone have the patient for something like Underrail's music puzzle.
>>540498852>Nenio's quests
>>540499545Anon.....
>>540502560
>>540495634Name one (1) good crpg puzzle
AHHHHHHH
>>540503794I warned you about the flaming stairs bro I warned you about the surfaces
>>540503794>When Swen tried to kill multiple people by making their PCs explodeHis evil knows no bounds.
>>540502560you don't know, either?it looks like my pc made a fort save to prevent cure blindness from working on them.
>>540408847There's Dragon Age Origins, nothing special about the warden he's just a weirdly hypercompetent guy.Same for Hawke actually.
>>540504674nah, hawke has that magic bloodline shit from their dlc that results in inquisition
>>540504507Anon, please reread your screenshot, very carefully
>>540504674Didn't people hate Hawke because he wasn't the Grand Warden Inquisitor Savior of the world but just some guy in some town?
>>540504674Both human and dwarf can be nobles, that's pretty special. Mage automatically makes them too special to be kept alive too.
>>540505000you could have said it twice instead of putting on this act
>>540505042You can start as a brokey elvish Ghetto criminal whos fiance gets kindapped and fucked by a human noble, how do you get less chosen one then that?
Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
>>540505841>Morrowind with realistic mods
>>540505740It doesn't matter if the chosen one is born in the literal dirt or some ghetto brothel with a whore mother. It's not where they start, but where they end up, and whether they were favored by destiny.
How long are emperor buffs meant to last? On my previous run they kept randomly disappearing but for some reason I've got a permanent +1ap from Kiava Gamma.
>>540499545I was able to get it to work. I found another scroll and, this time instead of using it from the inventory I manually equipped it to a character that could use the scroll and cast it.I'm not sure why it didn't work from inventory, Yanla is a paladin so she gets that spell. The oracle didn't know it either, but was able to cast it without UMD. And it didn't proc the fort save this time either.Writing it off as a bug>hit level 5 just as I rest for the final timeI got Bemir through safely. He's a useful slave so I'm not giving him up to some inquisitor
>>540499545>Be blind>Use SCROLL OF BLINDNESS on BLIND character>Somehow save check succeeded>Still BLIND
>>540509294It didn't work, because you used a Scroll of Blindness, NOT of Remove Blindness.
>>540505841hes supposed to be bald, thats how you know hes a plant and replaced the actual terrorist
>>540499545>>540509294
>it's the boss from act 2 of the base gameha~ no problem, no problem at all
>>540505740Was kinda upset CElf doesn't reunite with his fiance when you get to the alienage. Mods made her a cutie.
>>540513673oh no
>>540514458How are you liking Through the Ashes? I enjoyed it a lot and am sad that there's so much opposition to this kind of DLC. I would take this or Varnhold's Lot over their "roguelike" trash any day of the week.
>>540514775i'm enjoying it. I do like the idea of standalone modules, a lot more than adding it to part of a campaign.i have some criticisms of it. but overall i also like it a lot better than the roguelike mode. i actually like traditional roguelike games, but, that module gives them a bad name.I haven't played Varnhold's Lot
>>540506524Okay but that's not really the case in Dragon Age Origins, you really are just a guy in over your head and everybody wants you to fuck off so they send you on seemingly impossible tasks until they are too ashamed to turn you away.>>540513760That and not being able to romance Merril in the Dalish origin, she is easily the best girl in the whole franchise.Also not having another mage origin, either as an apostate or a Dalish keeper in training.
>>540517307Varnhold's Lot is a DLC for Kingmaker, where you play as a group including the leader of a nearby kingdom and his advisor. Something happens to their kingdom in the main game, not to spoil anything, but you play through what exactly happens. And there are some interesting things that can result from it back in the main campaign.I didn't Like Lord of Nothing as much as Through the Ashes, but I think that's mostly colored by the last maybe 1/4 of it which is pretty shit imo, including the end boss who's just kind of ridiculous. I dropped it to Easy to finally just be finished with it at that point.My understanding is that the team who worked on TtA is different than the LoN team, which I can see.
>>540517649Well, TtA feels very owlcat, for better or worse. Personally, I like these low-econ low-level dnd games. I might pick up VLot after I do LoN.By the way, how did you go about completing TtA? I think you could do it with just your initial two guys if you used all the tools optimally and rarely fought.
>>540519512I don't remember. I think one person we brought along died to disease or something, but I had a full party. I also like low-level low-econ games. There's more room for emphasis and scale. Facing that Kalavakus feels intense, vs mowing through hordes of them in the base game. The underground part was pretty tough, but I liked that you were rewarded for actually approaching situations carefully instead of charging with your face. Not as much of that in LoN unfortunately.
>>540519512Also in case I was misleading, VL isn't level1. Still pretty low level, googling says 5-9 which sounds right.
>>540471186As a dogmatic the best way to handle him is to gloat at his misfortune then to shoot him in the arena
>>540520908This. There's also a more roundabout way that would require a lot of imagination and headcanonning. But honestly not worth it. Just shoot the worthless goon
>>540472015You can feed him to daemons twice. Don't even need to be a heretic for one of those
>>540411993There's an issue of conflating "chosenness" with "specialness". Bilbo and Frodo are definitely random farmer schmucks, but they *are* chosen. Bilbo is specifically chosen by Gandalf (a literal angel), and Frodo is chosen by the fprces of history (i.e. fate) that led the ring to his hands.Conan, on the other hand, is in most of his adventures very much *not* chosen, being essentially just some guy who wandered in and decided to do something. But Conan is definitely special, he's by no means a random farmer schmuck. He has power, and thus agency. A protagonist who isn't "chosen" requires unusually high agency to be involved at all.The call for a protagonist who is neither special nor chosen is retarded. Why is John Farmer even involved in that case? A series of unfortunate events involving him by coincidence is just a less honest way to say "fate".
>>540522331>Frodo is chosen by the fprces of history (i.e. fate)
I'm not taking part in this argument but nobody wants to be Fr*d* they identify with Aragorn or Legolas or Boromir not the hobbit who was hard carried by the party
From had literal divine intervention that chose and helped him.
>>540524126Gandalf didn't choose Frodo, he chose Bilbo, and then many decades later Frodo was the one who inherited the burden to carry it to Rivendel, and then volunteered to bring it to Mordor.
who the fuck is """""""""""""From"""""""""""""
>having a literal angel help you doesnt make you a chosen one
>>540519512>LoNyou do the boss fight from TtA, it was pretty rough... mostly because it reset my buff mod and i didn't feel like manually buffing. i went in with just mage armor.you also get some sort of, pseudo-mythic abilities.>>540520630Ah, all right. It sounds like LoN range.>>540520058>Facing that Kalavakus feels intensewere you able to defeat it? I made a save point and then tried a half-dozen times, to no avail.>>540522331fair point about frodo and bilbo. there would be no going there or back again were it not for gandalf's intervention. >conan is high-agencywell, sure, but i don't know if i'd call that special. Personally, to use Herbert's notation, it's the minimum for being considered human. The example we're looking for would be a story in which the protagonist is neither chosen, nor high agency, nor born well off, and is instead dragged along onto adventures by sheer luck even despite his demure behavior.So... Voltaire's Candide?And there's a lot of Shonen manga like that. I'd hardly call those memorable, but some people like it.
The hero from dungeon siege is actually just some farmer girl that gets her village destroyed so she goes on a suicide mission but ends up kicking every single bad guys ass.
>>540525003Does getting helped by angels in WotR make you a chosen one? Remember that they all thought that's what you were and then it turned out it wasn't the case and you were just Areelu's lab experiment made to fool them all.
>>540525798Okay... but is it a good game?
>>540526787The kc is a mega super special magic eugenics baby, it doesnt get much more chosen one then that.
>>540526930The first 2 games are pretty fun.
This argument is retarded. None of you can even agree on what makes someone a chosen one, how the fuck do you expect to find any kind of consensus? To some, being a chosen one means there's a prophecy or a god or something that points directly at (You) to do something and no one else can step up. To others, the instant you do anything noteworthy you're already a chosen one because you become special by any measure.You guys will NEVER agree. It's impossible. Because you're not even on the same damn argument.
And this ""argument"", is it in the thread with us right now?
>>540527373CHOSEN one = chosen by destiny, not becoming really powerful or important, it's in the name
>>540527484I agree, but there's one side of this discussion that clearly doesn't get that and they think the moment you level up from level 1 to 2 you're already a chosen one.
I just took the fattest shit. I think I was chosen by density, bros. I'm no longer a lvl 1 human fighter. Later, losers
>leveling up rekarth, rogue 5i'm kinda stuck.rogue doesn't have anything good from 6-9. two sneak attacks and three rogue talents. but i don't want any more non-advanced rogue talents - they all suck except weakening wound and slow reactions.so i've been thinking what to do. maybe take 3 wizard levels, then go arcane trickster. but this guy has 10 int. and i'd lose a ton of bab. and even the advanced talents are a bit mediocre. really only the attribute damage ones and dispelling attack seem good.i guess i'll just go rogue 6 and get fast stealth, maybe it'll be fun to try.
>>540530485>wizard levels with 10 intwhy would this even cross your mind, there are loads of better optionsI'd go some kind of martial, maybe slayer, if not sticking with rogue but I feel like you're also underestimating the talents. The dispelling one is awesome for instance.
I can roll a nat 20 irl
>>540530485update: it's shiti did the classic dungeon crawler thing where i send my rogue out sneaking in front. but his sneak DC was only 17? at a time when guys have +10? since he was out in front, he got killed instantly.i tried again while buffing his stealth skill but i couldn't change the DC. it's basically worthless.>>540532259tell me about the dispelling one. when i played the main game, i could never dispel anything without the monocle.
would you a NEET android
>>540532815>tell me about the dispelling onewhat's to tell? A free dispel attempt with every sneak attack. Uses your level as CL.>i could never dispel anything without the monocle.Did you really try much though? For me, the monocle makes it a certainty but I still got many dispels in otherwise. On Hard I had Cam and Daeran have it, and if we were facing some giant shithead I might have them try a couple. Many succeeded, many didn't, but it can still be worth a shot even without the monocle.But with Dispelling Attack, you aren't even sacrificing anything for the attempt. Not sure your difficulty but on Hard it became very necessary to strip away their protections whenever possible.I'm talking about the main game here but I don't see why it wouldn't apply to LoN, I've just forgotten what happens in the game.I think the talents are quite good. The ability damage as well. That can really add up over a few rounds, and remember if you're chipping away at Dex that's also chipping away at AC typically. And Str/attack similarly.
>>540523763Lots of people want to be sam. And he was not hard carried you retard. The moronic can't comprehend mental anguish so that is what it seems to casual movie only normgroids.
>>540505042Both of those nobles die unless they have the good fortune to have met Duncan. They are not special and are totally outmanoeuvred by people in their own social class.
Is this general finally ready to stop being contrarian and admit that bg3 is a good game?
>>540536834Sorry Act 3 exists and there's no definitive edition this time to clean up larian sloppa.
>>540534293Have you actuall taken dispelling attack? It looks like it won't actually hit the DC required to dispell anything
>>540536834maybe if you're brain damaged and haven't played any other games
>>540536834Anons don't like any game
>>540537107Since it uses your level as the CL it will be exactly as effective as an X level wizard casting it, except you are "casting" it with every sneak attack, likely multiple times per round for free.Would I rely on it like a monocle + dispel? Obviously not, but it's still good.
I always take Skill Focus: Stealth and Fast Stealth on every rogue because I think rogues should be sneaky
>>540536834Russian schizo samefag reply in 1... 2... 3...
>>540534293>Did you really try much though?can't say i really spammed it enough to get a good read. i remember facing baphomet: i couldn't dispel anything even with the monocle. This was on Core, permadeath, blind. Even if I did get a monocle dispel off, it rarely stripped buffs that mattered. Meanwhile, those casters could be doing things that were actually impactful. I eventually stopped using it entirely except for one dispel at the start, and then by the time I got to deskari that one was skipped too. Come to think of it, I don't think I used dispel at all after chapter 4. >DAHonestly I was expecting it to be CL/2 or something. With haste and rapid shot, you'll get three arrows at your highest AB, so that's three dispels every turn: a 28% chance to hit the 19-20 range at least once, if your arrows hit (big if). That said, the problem I'm seeing in LoN is that a lot of things don't take sneak attack damage.
>>540537453A wizard can strip a boss from its buffs with a single cast with an almost 100% chance, plus you can quicken it and fire off two greater dispells a round. Dispelling attacks dispell one buff and may not even roll well enough for it. It sounds like a trap talent for the game
>>540537836>the problem I'm seeing in LoN is that a lot of things don't take sneak attack damagereading ahead and spoiling yourself is soullessjust play the game autist
>>540537802He already replied, he's just not feeling it today it seems
>>540538079you're imagining things again anon, take a break.
>>540537967>Greater dispel is better durrwell no shit? Do you get to cast it for free, multiple times every round, WHILE you get your attacks in?Also I don't know why you bring up wizard, Dispel only works on Caster Level, so a wizard casting Dispel will have exactly the same chance as the thief attacking with dispelling attack.Except again, it would eat a spell slot. And I would personally never cast it, Greater Dispel or nothing. But a regular dispel, again, for free, multiple times per round, with no downside, is not bad.
>>540537802>1... 2... 3...You're supposed to count backward you moron
>>540533667I wish she was apart of the base game. I liked her a lot better then Sosiel. Plus having a bard would've been nice.
>>540533667>devil of caroc from wish
>September 26th >ToEE still isn't out
Deadfire but without the gay ship combat
Deadfire but without the gay
Deadfire but only gay orgies in ships for combat
kys snowflake
>>540525798I miss this as a genre, party-based ARPG. We need way more of these, taking control of multiple characters. DS1 is so much fun. DS2 is okay, less characters and I don't quite like the aesthetic; it's not as DnD as Dungeon Siege 1 was.
>>540545068>>540545564Both would work>>540545697>>540545710t.Sawyer
>>540525798>Look it up>Microsoft still owns the rightsObsidian making dungeon siege 4 when?
>>540546180>Microsoft doing anything with the IPs they own>Microsoft doing anything good with the IPs they ownStop hoping good things to happen.
>>540546180why get that when you can get beloved hits like outer worlds 2 and avowed
avowed? more like avoid haha
avowed was really good but you aren't ready to admit that yet
>>540546180no, the last one they made was shit
Pillars 3 will chase the BG3 audience
>>540546796Sawyer already openly admits this btw.
>>540547005good, maybe it won't be slop
Show me that 'gina, Pallegina>smile dangerously
>>540547005obsidian are too incompetent to pull it off.
>>540547260*cloaca
>>540547260Not enough purple prose bro
Can you kill Calcazar and join the Inquisition in the ending slides?
>>540547005[Laughs] Deadfire flopped, you did a terrible job! you cant ask for money after failing
It didn't though.For the most part, Pillars1&2 both hold up as really solid CRPGs that still get played and recommended.
>>540548567>Pillars1&2 both hold up as really solid CRPGs that still get played and recommended.Let's be honest here, that only really happens because there's nothing else to recommend and most people won't even touch anything older than ten years old.
>>540548861what you said isn't wrong but they are also pretty solid CRPGs. With flaws, like almost all CRPGs, but overall quite good.
poe3 with kissable bird and ydwin is a possibility
>>540548861>and most people won't even touch anything older than ten years old.Heh
>>540549231Just go read a romance novel already and stop polluting my favorite genre with your garbage
How much longer until 6e comes out?
poe sucked ass, you lil zooms refuse to play real classics like ToEE let alone mid games that are still better than poe - like alpha protocol, gothic, even risen 2
I like pillars because punching things as a monk is really fun.
>Calls others zooms>"Mid"
>>540549231basedi can hear sawyer lamenting his life decisions
>>540549790Imagine thinking fucking third person games are less repellent to zoomies than isometric. BG3 would never be as popular without the third person conversation camera.
>>540552695Imagine thinking fucking? I dont speak ESL
>>540553306You clearly do since there was no comma or full stop after fucking you retard.
who uses proper punctuation here
there was no full stop? period? dead ass?
how's everyone's dollies doing?any adventuring? smooching? cute outfits?
>>540553306It’s worse to be an illiterate american
>>540554992My dolly is sleeping
american CRPGS: TES, Fallout, Arcanum, BGyurojank 'crpgs': gothic, stalker, mount n blade, garbage ass indies
>BG is americanlol no
>>540554992My dolly wants me to do her quest (take out the garbage)
>>540558506Bioware is Canadian aka America's 51st state.
How much longer until owlcat makes a bg3 like?
1 - owlslop doesnt have larian money2 - owlslop cant even finish a game3 - bg3 didnt have walls of text and pets playing the game for you4 - owlslop doesnt have the abilities
Skald was really fun. Obsidian and Owlcat should make some ultima clones instead of bg3 clones next.
which freezing mod do we prefer, Frostfall or Hypothermia?
I'm just saying owlcat could learn some writing lessons from one piece.
>>5405399084... 5... 6...
I like imagining owlcat doing things I don't like so I can get angry
>>540565525skyrim survival mode
>They even get the dead guy model's dick out You can't convince that some fucker working in Owlcat isn't autistic
No way fag
>>540572414give her the D
this seem about right?
>>540576347>Pillarslollmao
>dr*idJust play paladin.
>>540577609Okay what game do you recommend i play?
>>540576347You don't need that much resolve. I wouldn't drop it super low since having a squishy mc can be annoying but you're a backline caster for the most part.Put those points into dex so you can cast faster or maybe perception so your offensive spells are more accurate.
>>540577802rogue trader
>Kibellah can kill a boss with 10K hp + 13 enemies with over 1K hp each in a single turn
hehehehehe, the bear form stands on two legs
>>540578869Its pretty cool that they made unique models for all the druid forms. They could have been lazy and just had you turn into just a big version of the normal animal enemies or something.
Is her name a reference to Kabbalah? What did Owlcat mean by this?
>>540579743Owlcat has a ton of freemason and kabbalah references in their games.
>Commorragh = Gomorrah>Sha'eil = Sheol>Think they're better than everyone else>Scheme and deceive as a way of lifeAre eldars space jews?
>>540578481Her heroic action is basically an I Win button, if she's properly set up to use Death from Above.
>>540578481This is why turn-based is cheating.The only reason the Rogue Trader and his merry band of misfits can beat the C'Tan Shard is because the Shard just had to stand there with his thumb up his ass while the Rogue Trader's little girlfriend beats the shit out of him.Not possible in RTwP.
Does the unarmed bonus from weapon focus peasant increase my druids wild shape accuracy?
>>540580421RTwP wouldn't have stopped the Shard from doing 10 damage per attack to Argenta. That fight is such a letdown, how does a god do less damage than a chaos cultist?
Dark heresy better buff the ministorum origin.
>>540581583True but how much damage would the entire party be doing without their "extra turns" and "multiple attacks per turn"
>>540581583Because you'd over-leveled Argenta's dodge and deflectionYou have to hold back a bit.
So were the doppelgangers real, or just Necron spooks?
>>540580657Yes
Bg3 has proven than turn based>rtwp. Owlcat just doesnt have to skill required to make a turn based game.
>>540538463I don't need to cast it every round. I just need to cast it twice in the first round and that is usually enough to dispell everything. Or everything that matters at least. Dispelling attack is shit. I'd rather take attacks that lowers enemy's con and dex
No seriously what was owlcat thinking with all the infinite stacking?
>>540582985They weren't thinking because they are poor designers
Why didn't owlcat stop me from metafagging my build?
do you guys play with exp share on or off?
>>540583364Ahh yes the super high iq meta fagging builds such as >choose the abilities that let argenta shoot more>any psyker ability >blade dancer as a class>picking the crimelord origin >using idira>using officer
https://www.pcgamesn.com/warhammer-40k-dark-heresy/rogue-trader-learningsNew Owlkek interview
>>540576347Agree with the other anon, especially about perception. I also think Int is too high. No point in having a bigger AoE if nothing is landing (or being grazes) due to low Perception. I'd bring Resolve down to about 12 and consider Int maybe 14. More Dex would be ok but I'd consider Con too. You'll be failing most Fortitude checks with Con 10, not to mention the lower Health.But the most important part imo is that Perception, people always drop it too far, but the rest of your character isn't that important if you're constantly missing/grazing everything.
he'll never spot me here
>>540584428>owlcat confirms they dont playtest thier games
>>540584428Let me guess>we are totally doing more reactivity. I hope you will enjoy the "How do you do fellow psykers" in every conversation now>game is gonna be totally stable and playable on release - we'll even make sure it ships with TWO exe files this time>we are totally not cutting down on dialogue - please be excite for muh full va
>>540585071So they went with the worst of both worlds and delievered more bugs AND less content? What a weird thing to admit. At least now it's official that the second half of the game was utterly rewritten 2 seconds before release. Not like it wasn't obvious from the start
>>540585071>we dont usually do such thingsDoes this mean some of the dlcs for kangmaker and wrath were also rewritten at the last minute?
>>540582985They knew owlsloppers would eat it up anyway
>>540585071The best part is the next sentence>With Dark Heresy - and I understand it sounds stupid - we are more ambitious than we were in the Rogue Trader times," he continues.
>>540585427In Rogue Trader you could only complete 2 acts before running into game breaking bugs. With Dark Heresy you will only be able to complete 1!
>>540584428>2026 releaseAs long as it does not slip to 2027, that;'s fine
>>540585071i've got a screenshot
>>540584428I just want these guys to add a hot shot volley gun, melta buffs and maybe a tempestus scion background.
>>540585550>Just three badass men nodding, stoically
>>540585528I found it on leddit and find it funny that after cheking the thread, not a single ledditor mentioned this confirmation
>>540585915To be fair, that is not a direct quote from owlcat.It's something the interviewer mentions at the end>Dark Heresy is set to release in 2026, so we'll need to wait a little while longer to dive into what feels like Owlcat's most ambitious game to date. So I guess you want to consider how much the journalist may be pulling shit out of his ass
>>540585493you're talking about the sidequests for the companions (specifically: heinrix and pascal), which were very bugged and needed toybox to get through if at all. those bugs weren't game breaking because it was a sidequest and you don't have to do it.it was the beginning of the final act that was gamebreakingly bugged. you got stuck into a cutscene and it wouldn't progress. did they ever optimize it? i remember this part being absolutely obnoxiously slow with all the loading screens. and i had just built a new pc.
Yeah its going to be a bug fest on release.
>>540586269Fret not, I will be one of the beta testers.
Are there recommended companions to take to Cumrag? My friend told me I missed out on key info by not taking Argenta last run.
>>540586481>don't have to take, probably shouldn'tAbelard, Pasqal>have to take if alive/present Yrliet>should take if you romance for best outcoems to open upEveryone but Solomorne, I think>important to take for ending slides/character infoIdira+Argenta
>>540586619>AbelardThe problem is that I don't have a wall for the malice fight if I don't. >should take romanceSo I have to take my romance to gay rape dungeon world to get the best outcome? Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
>>540586924A litle spice for the bedroom does wodners.And people fear Malice fight too much.If you have the DLCs at this point, you are like 10 levels above what the game expects, you can bruteforce it with Pasqal+Yrliet and your MC being whatever
>>540585071Act 5 was fine for what it was. It was a self-contained encounter with the Nu-crons.But it had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the game. Act 4 was supposed to make the connection, but it completely failed.
>>540587087I'll take Abelard as my safety net since I ain't bringing Pasqal and won't get Cassia or Heinrix until the arena fight.
>>540586481Best choice for interesting plot:>Idira>Argenta>Your waifu>Jae>Yrliet is mandatory if you have her, otherwise take HeinrixIf there's any overlap, ie Jae or Heinrix are your waifus, simply leave a slot empty. Don't worry, it won't gimp you. You'll fill that slot anyway.>>540586924>So I have to take my romance to gay rape dungeon world to get the best outcome?Trauma bonding makes for the best relationships.
>>540586619I don't think it's THAT bad for Abelard. Ok so, in extreme old age, he has imaginary conversations with his wife. Is that so bad?
>>540587550I have never taken Idira on any quest cause she always ends up suicide bombing herself and half the team. As for Jae I can't stand her voice acting.>trauma bondingLast time I was here Kibbles went insane. I cannot help but feel putting her through that again is a dick move and shouldn't be needed to get the proper ending.
>>540587401If you're taking Idira and Argenta (mandatory for best ending) and you also take Abelard, then you won't find Yrliet until later, which weakens you, and also weakens the plot since narratively it's best if you find her first.
>>540588180Well, Idira in Cumrag is great. She is faced with the most terrible torment of everyoneShe has to take her meds, and get a jobAnd recruiting her again is fun and has narrative weightArgenta and her also become good friends as a result\Jae is fun too and you can just skip her voice acting. If you're romancing her then it's even more kino.
>>540588180>she always ends up suicide bombing herself and half the teamThis is only a problem for like the first 5 levels. I don't see why people are so scared of the occasional peril
This interview has given me zero confidence in dark heresy, its going to be a buggy mess and dlop like rogue trader.
>>540588556how come?
>>540588703It's easy shitposting material.No matter the interview, nobody would actually feel confident/reassured that Owlcat would deliver a nob buggy game, especially at release. Anyone who says' the interview made me think they would do better/worse' is lying.
>>540588556>dlop
>>540588793huh. well, i read only the quotes people shitposted here and it looks good to me. it's just owlkek owning up to their mistakes, yeah? we all knew what happened. i guess maybe it was a surprise for you.
>>540589190The point is that the interview, press releases, developer/cm quotes are irrelevant.The release will still be buggy.They have been doing this since 2019.The question is, will it be 'some event flags and sidequests are borked and some abilities do not work as intended' buggy or 'we did not include the exe and last 4th of the game cannot be played' buggy.
The Alpha is most likely coming in a few months so we'll see how Owlkek's work is shaping up so far.If it's better than Rogue Trader's Alpha it will be a good sign.
>A fun fact is that in the list of bugfixes for 1.5, Yrliet has her own category of bugs related to her. Sorry that it took so long, but at least to my knowledge, all known issues with her were finally squashed.>There was a massive consistency cleaning for the epilogues, too, with lots of contradictions and oddities rewritten.Starrok on plebbit kek
>>540589712>all known issues with her were finally squashed.I'm playing it right now and her romance ending meditations don't work properly. She used to hang around afterwards and say >you go ahead elantach, I'll stay here a little whileNow it just glitches and she disappears
>>540589343well, that's probably a safe assumption. RT was both of those and it's definitely the best one so far.but there are signs of "senior" thinking in this interview. Of course it could just be a canned line, but I'd like to think that after ten years even a russian dev team will be able to graduate from being novices.that said, i expect nothing. making guesses about how good it is, getting your hopes up, managing expectations, why would I do that? stuff like that is more talking about crpgs than it is playing them. i'll decide how good the game is once i play it.
>>540587550>still having Idira and Jae polluting your ship by the time you have to go to Comorragh
>>540588556its not going to flop because its buggy, otherwise Owlcat would have flopped back when Wrath first released everyone knows its going to be buggy, if you've followed Owlcat for more than one game you know it will be buggydoesn't change the fact it will still be a solid game, at least bugs can be fixed otherwise the quality of their games is pretty consistent
>>540590160I think that was meant to be slop, not flop.But who knows
>>540590147Joke: How will you know of a player is Dogmaxxing?Answer: Don't worry, he'll tell you
grease is still ridiculous.this whole area is piss easy
>>540589828He means 1.5 which comes in about a month anon. Not current patch
>>540590621any reason to NOT shardmaxx?
>>540588556I'm done buying owlcat games until they prove they can do one polished, well made release.I'm sick of waiting months for their slop to be in a playable state.
>>540590132I think their coding practices are poor. They lack the ability to make quests link up properly, so they just don't implement it.
>>540590659Oh ok, might be coolI won't replay until the next two DLCs are out though, I think
>>540590852It drives you fucking cuckoo anon, they literally told you so
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1161830/Age_of_ReforgingThe_Freelands/Found this game on sale on Steam and thought it looked interesting, anyone here tried it? Reviews say it might be too buggy, but the concept seems really interesting.
>>540590852Actual spoilers: To get the good end you want no more than two on each of you and then sacrifice one when you get the option.
>>540590928They are going to copy paste the Rogue Trader project folder, open it in Unity, rename the title, and then click and drag assets until they finish DH.what 'coding practice' are you talking about?this is vidya dev. you are vastly overstating how sophisticated gamedevs are. This is a trade that doesn't even use version control.
I've said this before but there really should be more options to torture evil fucks. You should be able to flay the fake Commisar alive and rub salt in his wounds but we can't because god forbid you get satisfying revenge.
Is this general genuinely even capable of finding a crpg they enjoy anymore
>>540592043That doesn't sound very dogmatic of youThe TRVE dogmatic route is to persuade him go straight and rejoin the fight as a real commissar
>>540592497Fuck off Hal, that piece of shit deserves oblivion not redemption. How many people did he send off to their deaths and take glee in? The dogmatic option is to get both him and Malice killed by the true followers of the Emperor but even then that's not enough.
>>540593440>that piece of shit deserves oblivionOnly the Emperor can decide that
I was really enjoying Rogue Trader, enough to replay it 3 times and consider it one of my favorite games in years, but then I saw a post on 4chan that was telling me to stop liking it and stop having fun because there re some bugs in it. I hate owlcat now, and I retract all the fun I had. It must have been fake fun. How could I have been so stupid to forget about all the bugs?! Thank goodness Anonymous was here to remind me to stop liking things, and to be as miserable as he is. Ignore positives, focus on negatives! Don't like things! Be contrarian! Liking things is cringe!
>>540597556>crying this much.Nothing wrong with liking the game, I get why a lot of people enjoy owlslop. Nothing wrong with pointing out their games are buggy piles of shit though.
>>540590852>>540590621pretty disappointed with LoN so far.the game rains levels, experience, and loot on you like rain on a day that is very rainy (ancient chinese proverb). the enemies are total pushovers. the hill giant boss didn't even get an attack. in the tower so far it's just been goblins and golems with 40hp.>>540591286i gave it to the sorcerer. he has two now.>>540597556you have finally developed "taste". congratulations.
>>540597556>It must have been fake fun.This is a constant pitfall for the gamer, almost as bad as fake difficulty
>>540591362It's hard for the sake of being hard. Imagine WOTR but with Unfair mode only.Also its still EA and buggy regardless of what Steam Store page says
>>540597892>it's still ea>check page>it's not eawhy would anon lie like this
>>540598016He just said "regardless of what Steam Store page says" anon...
>>540598078ea is a steam store page status.it's like saying the sky is red regardless of what color the sky is. the sky isnt' red.
>>540598150???
>>540598730Fake news
Bg3 is a classicFNV is a classicDOSII is a classicBg1/Bg2 are trashFallout 1/2 are classic DOSI is trash Pillars of Eternity is trash Rogue Trader is trash kinoidk WOTR
>>540600213trash
>>>540600290
Why doesn't anyone ever play Lionheart?
>>540601301i don't know that game. checking online.... it's from 2003?i guess there's a lot of other games from that era you could play instead, like fallout or kotor
>>540601408It seems odd it was forgotten while other Bioware/Black Isle titles became classics
>>540601685is it good?shill it a bit anon, could be worth checking out
>>540601793Alternative history setting where the crusades unleash demonic forces, uses the same system as Fallout more or less.
>Heinrix loses his shit if you keep Yrilet around during CommorraghIts fun to see how different things play out if you don't blast Yrilet on Janus.
>>540602948>if you literally consort with xenos, shit goes straight to shitowlkek got the lore rightbut wasn't the reason you got to commorragh because of yrilet?
>Just started Dark Souls>Great fun is had >Want to talk to fags about it >Find out the Dark souls general is kill >Elden Ring general is full of retarded zoomers>Nowhere to share my journey's experience or shitpost withI am mildly surprised that even /dsg/ is dead. Guess nothing can defeat the sand of timeThank you for subscribing to my blog
>>540603202Have you tried playing the game
>>540603460did you kill the boss yet>>540603536that sounds awful
>>540603202In one timeline yesIn the other timeline, it's because Heinrix is incompetent
>>540603873ha, how did the femcels take it? i imagine they all killed the elf
>>540603536I've never played Rogue Trader yet I have strong opinions about all of the characters.
>>540603202>wasn't the reason you got to commorragh because of yrilet?If she's alive yes but if not you Achilleas gets buckbroken and betrays you after getting tortured by the drukhari. Either way you get sent to CBT land but the difference is that Achilleas's betrayal at least makes some modicum of sense. Yrilet just goes full retard and gets you sent to the rape dimension because she believes fuck Marz of all people.
>/dsg/ is dead
>>540603965Nah killing the elf is an aggressive act, it takes initiative, only males would do that. Femcels usually get into a love triangle between Yrliet and Jimmy, and possibly Marazhai.
>>540604113She even has some sort of bullshit excuse for why it's not her fault, but apparently it's all true because Marazhai corroborates it>oh that foolish girl? she had no idea what was really going on. I played her like a harp, as she imagined she was playing me
>>540603659I just started, just chopped this Gargoyle fag's tail off and it turned into an axe, was pleasantly surprised. Game has been fun so far, very S0VLful.I like that one room where they throw a fucka ton of low level zombies at you all at once, or that other room where the moment you walk in a zombie runs away just to lure you straight into his buddies waiting out of sight to bum rush you in the ass
are there any grimdark crpgs coming out? I absolutely loved how animancy was portrayed in Pillars but the rest of the worldbuilding felt like generic fantasy, the last act couldn't keep my interest.I don't like WoTR and BG3 that much either, their settings are full of high fantasy whimsy so when the horrific stuff does happen it just comes off as edgy. that being said if Larian did away with their origin system that nobody uses and instead focused on tailoring the entire game to the MC being a bhaalspawn, it would be an instant favorite for me. dark urge does have a great story, but its elements are weirdly slapped on the rest of the game (which is mediocre otherwise). Owlcat on the other hand just doesn't seem to know how to write a story. there's no deeper thought behind anything, what happens is just what their team of writers thinks is cool separately from each other.I guess what I'm looking for is a borderline horror setting where evil comes from how the world works rather than optional player choices.
>>540604143i haven't played the game in a hot moment; but, isn't it an A vs B choice to let her live or die?it hardly takes initiative to make a different choice.
>>540603965Not at all, femcels like to think they have some sort of "girlboss" friendship with Yrliet. None of them will kill her on Janus, meaning almost all of them will follow the Yrliet path into Cumrag.
>>540603873To be fair he's still incompetent with yrlietShe just kills him before he can betray you
>>540604381that's cool. how did you get past the bridge? and, have you found any NPCs?
>>540604397The only real opportunity to kill her before Cumrag is Janus right when you recruit her.Or really going out of your way to not let her come with you at the end of the mission.Both of these are unusual choices, very few players will choose that.You can certainly kill her in Cumrag, or just leave her there, but by that point the die is cast.She actually does pretty well if you leave her in Cumrag, she becomes a Wych.
>>540604558>it's unusual to kill a xenos on sightdo these fags not read warhammer? big wonder they end up having sand poured into their vaginas later on, they think grim dark means my little pony
>>540604681You know Warhammer is a tabletop wargame in which you can play many races, most of which are not humanSo I'm not sure what you mean by "read" Warhammer.
>>540604917i'm sure you can figure it out if you think.try for a bit, if you're still confused ask again in half an hour.
>>540604385Skald?
>>540604385just replay roadwarden
the masculine desire for a xenos pet
I am your xenos pet, elantach
>>540605530your xenos pet, anon
>>540604917He means the sweaty grognard scene that thinks the only right way to treat the setting is hailing the emperor and killing anything that's not human
>window open, chilly breeze>cozy blankets, sleeping cat>mug of soup, sourdoughAhhh, now I'm ready to play some roles in my favorite CRPG, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
>tricked by a goblin
>Regill the Hell Knight commander>Has 5 levels in Fighter class and not Hell KnightBut why?
>Farseers turned into a human centipede by Drukhari>still have the nerve to be arrogant and call me a monkeighIts days like this where serving Chaos looks like an attractive option just to feed these fucks to Slaanesh.
Do you anons think that Dark Heresy will have better romances than Rogue Trader?
Force Field for my Arcane warrior in DAO? Might pick up crushing prison too.
>>540600213*raises glass*a toast! to being born afrer 911!
>>540608082Bigger question is why is top guy outlevels him three times over
>>540608082D&D style level progression has never made any sense
>>540604917Heh...have you even SEEN 40k before? Please watch at least Wartuber1488's entire 64 hour youtube documentary on the xenos threat before you speak, noob.
Why do mon'keigh get so ass-hurt when you call them what they areIt's just a word
>>540608324Have you seen the companion designs? We got an ugly nurse and a kroot. Romances are gonna be awful to say the least.
>if you make a cleric of lolth you canonically got gangbanged by a demon and random drow men
crpg where you and your waifu do investigations
>>540590898I always buy their games discounted two years after release since Kingmaker.You get a way more polished product at a discounted price + some DLC's. The early releases might as well be more expensive beta tests imo.
>>540611218this but without the waifubest plot for a crpg is an investigation
Oh, I get it! The game doesn't want you reloading saves after getting a disease or negative levels so the combat encounters are a tedious unrepeatable slog on purpose. Bravo, Owlcat.
>>540612926>cheating in a crpgpathetic
Three Kingdoms China or Byzantium CRPG
>>540608082Let's check the Lictors of major orders (at least for 1st edition)>Order of the rackFighter 7 / Hellknight 7 >order of the scourgeRogue 2 / Fighter 4 / Hellknight 2 >order of the nailFighter 4/Rogue 2/Hellknight 4 >order of the godclaw (Reg's)Fighter 4 / Cleric 2 / Hellknight 4 >Order of the chainFighter 5 / Hellknight 7 >Order of the gateWizard 11 / Hellknight 2 >order of the pyreRanger 6 \ Hellknight 4
>the reward for collecting all the crystals is treausure!>the treasure:it's a puzzle room
>>540613496>50% party increaseHeh
>>540610142we still got some companions yet to be revealed, i'm praying that the mechanicus companion is a woman for true Kino
>>540613496could it be related to this chandelier? it's the only one with lit torches. but no permutation of this pattern opens the door...
>>540614743I think you need to cast torches in a way the light is cast towards the door you want to open. It's been a while
>>540612926>play turn-based>wooow why is the game so tedious?
>>540614743that's the same chandelier that's in every room, same candle designs. nothing special.i checked the other floors. in the teleport room it's this pattern... this one works>>540615015thanks, it turned out to be something like that. the reward is pretty good, too.
Is Wrath of the Righteous actually better than BG3? If so, in what ways? Or is it just something contrarians like to say?
>>540616420no. who told you that?
>>540616420yes.everyone that told you that is completely right.
>>540616420The English translation is so-so, you have to learn Russian to appreciate the true prose of >[Evil] (Attack) I don't like you, die!
>>540616498>who told you that?He did >>540616643
>>540616742>not typing the original russianjust look at:>[Злo] (Aтaкyeт) Tы мнe нe нpaвишьcя, yмpи!the localization team butchered it. where's the soul?
BG2 = Jason and the ArgonautsA cultural touchstone that deeply influenced the genre and films that came afterWotR = Harry PotterSoulless YA slop for the underage and the emotionally stuntedBG3 = The Lord of the RingsA timeless masterpiece that resonates through the ages
what was i supposed to do with these anyway, in TtA?
Oath of Imoen
>raise dead is 6000>recruiting a new companion is 2500RIP Yanla. She was with us from the beginning. Died to a tornado after having her con drained from disease she picked up in the sewers.
>>540617148You can trade it with that underground dude
you guys lied to me DOS1's writing isn't that cringe & goofy
>>540617459oh wow he gives you 120 gold for the lot. that's a ton.
>>540617148that's an ingredient you can use it to cook food for stat buffs
I look forward to Owlcat shitting the bed with Expanse, considering every release so far has been a mess.
>>540616420no this general is for third worlders whose pcs cant run bg3 and brains cant handle solasta
>>540616420Owlcat's PF games are genuinely closer to the earlier BG games mechanically, so if people liked the genre because of those experiences, they would understandably look upon similar games favorably, potentially to the point they would prefer them over Larian's attempts at itThat said, there are blatant lies born out of tribalism, ie 'magic in BG3 having less utility than KM/Wrath' when they're demonstrably false
Abelard, tell these /crpgg/ peasants they bore me.
>>540620246>Owlcat's PF games are genuinely closer to the earlier BG games mechanicallyThat's a roundabout way of saying they're both RTWP slop
I cast Command: Sex!
i am at a point where i want the fantasy stereotypes instead of the subversions
>>540621824well, gaming is about thinking outside the box, so i think you'll be surprised to see how i subvert your expectations!
Titan Fighter?
Lawful Ember is the best ending for her in my opinion. The Good Ember reads like fanfiction nonsense.
she has experience going to brothels? don't know how to feel about this...
>>540621824Same.
>>540623742She's a virgin
>>540623742If you got to that part, it means you were OK with her taking strange men into the basement and doing the dirty. But brothels is where you draw the line?Anon, she's not an innocent princess waiting to be saved
Owlcat needs a auteur to guide them and keep them on track to prevent all their last minute rewrites/reworks and also to keep the tone and themes of their stories consistent. The need a Russian equivalent of a yoko taro, joshua sawyer, kojima, Vince, ect....
>jealous hag who tries to get you killed>abrasive spider who asks for everyone's cum>serial killer who visits brothels and tries to hide it from you>larper who has ridden half the abyssguess it's a mercenary wife for me
can a magus do two weapon fighting?thinking about Sword Saint with a 1 level of dip into Titan Fighter
Why is the Dark Heresy cast a downgrade in terms of looks? I thought Owlcat figured out people like good looking companions, especially romances. Compare Cassia, Argenta and Yrliet and even some of the NPCs to the plain jane black chick and Kroot. Males also don't look as hot
>>540625356Kill yourself
Let's be real, romance options in any kind of RPG has just always been you choosing between different flavors of slut. Ironically Aerie from BG2 who gets dragged for being whiny waifubait is actually the exception. Even "good" characters like Leliana is revealed to have a dyke ex lover and has seduced enough men to consider herself good at it.
>>540625356>I thought Owlcat figured out people like good looking companions, especially romanceshave they ever said anything even remotely like that?you made it up
brb playing baldur's gate just to pump and dump Aerie
>>540625456>Ironically Aerie from BG2 who gets dragged for being whiny waifubait is actually the exception. Bioware repeated the Aerie template a few times, let's not kid ourselves
>>540625456>Leliana is revealed to have a dyke exDon't forget the where after you kill said ex lover and ask Leliana about if your relationship with her will help her get over her she straight up tells you that you'll never measure up to her. Man if DAO came out today the cuckposting would be through he roof. There's the whole Dark Ritual thing, Morrigan trying to get Sten to fuck her while she's in a relationship with you, etc.
>>540625931why were gamers back then so tolerant of cucking
>>540625705who aside from maybe tali and merrill>>540626041more like why are gamers today so sensitive
>>540626162it's the same question, merely a change in perspective. your answer?
Romancefags deserve this
>>540626162Liaraprobably someone in Andromeda
I'd say Owlcat is far worse than Bioware. The Valerie romance in particular is one giant humiliation ritual where she keeps comparing you to her ex fuckbuddy.
I want to meet Valerie's ex
>>540626610Owlcat would literally release a piece of poop for their next game, and it would still be better than anything buoware has ever accomplished.
>>540626262NTA but your question is loaded and doesn't deserve a real discussion, because terms like "cucking" have lost all meaning in post-irony 4chan
Being a atheist in a setting where gods are notoriously petty assholes seems like a recipe for disaster.
>>540624679literally all of these guys need a tardwrangler too especially koj*ma
>>540627162It's called Russian writing, you're not Russian enough to get it
Who cares about Valerie or Thotavia when Owlkek gave you twin wives?
>warpriest > loremaster cannot take spells as secrets
>>540616420Better in some ways, worse in some ways.For example I have done 4 full playthroughs of WotR but I can't imagine wanting to play through BG3 a second time even.
>>540627920how do you even play as a warpriest? It just seems like shittier cleric. the only exception being the mantis zealot subclass.
>>540627784because people want a fulfilling romance, not a happily ever after slidethe romance is the full meal, not the thank you for playing card at the end
>>540628263i've never done it, but i was gonna use the fervor mechanic to get a bunch of quickened true strikes + twf
Should I do Blackwater in Chapter 3? From what I heard it seems to be the "Blighttown" of WOTR
>>540625356Because Games Workshop made them ulgify it and will veto romances with any attractive female companion belonging to a popular 40k "waifu" archetype like they did with Argenta. GW indeed hates is anti-white and anti-male, also subtly shits on Indo European spirituality and shilling Abrahamism via Eldar being humiliated and dominated by the followers of the Imperial Creed and in Rogue Trader Yrliet being a mickery of Indo European spirituality showing the Abrahamist Cassia and Kibellah as the ideal women. Despite their subversive characters succeeding it still tears them apart knowing that their hated demographic got enjoyment out of Cassia and Kibellah and don't want to grant them even that piece of poisoned goycake. I expect more humiliation rituals ala Yrliet and Jae - Xenos humiliating the white male inquisitor sexually and mocking his roots and the female romance options being ugly negrified mongrels and mutants. They must take away any beauty from the player. Make no mistake, look at the patterns, GW is behind this and Owlcat in order to keep their license will shit on the whims of their fans and lose some money for it. GW has it's own hatred, but also the larger agenda is at large to keep men demoralized and their minds negrified by not alowing them any artistic escape free from negros or where they can imagine a healthy relationship free of posion and hate, which is rarer nowadays since women are especially kiked. If it's not just the ideologues that infiltrated GW, it's also the massive financial incentive from Blackrock and co for "ESG funds"I know reddit cucks and abrahamist universalist multiculturalists will just seethe and not refute anything I said, so I won't reply to any of the npc rage that will inevitably come from those types or any replies at all, since it will be a waste of time in this leftist and slave morality drone infested shithole of a general.Fuck Games Workshop and their ilk.
>>540628582i thought it was pretty great, aside from the bossfight which was assyou get some of the best loot in the game there.
>>540628365I want both. And in Wrath only Arue fits that bill (after they updated her ending slide). Nobody wants to go through an obtuse romance during a 40+ hour rpg where if you fuck up once it's over only to be greeted with an ending slide saying "oh you wanted to have kids with your new queen? get fucked lmao only peasant farmers are allowed to to that with her".
>>540628610oh not this shit again, take your fucking meds
>>540628749>I want both.No shit, but the twin goats aren't the best romance ever written because the actual romance is so thin it might as well be the patty in a nothingburger
>>540628582If you have stuff that targets Will it will be easier
>>540628909>saving throw-based attacks>in wotrMy main guy has 25 persuasion and Cornugon smash, but I have yet to get a single intimidate.
>>540628610curious why you think so. have they ever said something to imply that? or is there some sort of, pattern of behavior you can point to?
>>540628610Remember women will fuck the elf man in Dark Heresy, while you get nothing.
>>540628896I agree with you but the alternatives are bad enough where I can look past that
>calls the general a shithole>but doesn't mind being the resident schizo and screencapping his own schizobabble
>>540629020that must be some kind of skill issuedo you have the feat that lets you use Str bonus for intimidate?
>>540629020Assuming you're a STR character, take Intimidating Prowess if you have a feat to spare. Given how easy it is to stack STR in Wrath it should be more than enough to intimidate most of the enemies in the game.
>>540629265I don't think that was the elffag, he didn't go on about spirituality, just how elves were cucking him
I'm seeing a running theme in WOTR after a certain point in the game. I should really have someone on my team that can target Touch AC huh?
>>540629667I'm not reading that schizobabble all schizoshit is the same to me
>>540629374>>540629461I'm a Paladin. I have 31+ for Persuasion.
This general should strive to be more and more like rpgcodex but with no namefaging but instead its becoming reddit but with more romance/cuck talk.
>>540617417Aren't they also get perma leveldrain that stays until endtitles?
>>540630354go back
>>540629679Absolutely helps>>540629821Ahh, I see, so you're just lying about not having landed an intimidate once. Good luck I suppose.
>>540630354it is what it is nigger
How was he wrong in any way or form?
>>540630693>Ahh, I see, so you're just lying about not having landed an intimidate onceI sure as hell don't see no intimidation
>>540628610>I expect more humiliation rituals ala Yrliet and JaeI didn't do Jae's romance. How is it a humiliation ritual? I can definitely see Yrliet's romance being a humiliation ritual though since she's condescending no matter what.
>>540627162In my dream fantasy CRPG the player troon would be struck down for choosing blasphemous dialogue options.
>>540628749>ArueAnime-tier cuckbait
>>540630412yes, two permanent levels lost. costs 1400 to heal those.i ended up keeping the paladin because i couldn't come up with anything better.
>>540630887He wasn'tBut this isn't a perfect worldSo he must suffer the dire consequences of standing beside the river of truth.
>>540630887Because he's hypocrite. He 100% fine with "shallow masturbatory fantasy indulgence" as long as it's with a companion or NPC who is also usually gay. He only has an issue with the player character because he's an irl cuck.
>>540630354The only RPG that demands autistic build-talk is Wotr and that game was solved during ancient times when Frog still walked among us.Nowadays there're way more ways of abusing and tricking the game.>You can get lvl10 at the beginning of act 2 on Unfair>You can stun any non-undead with Corrupter+Stinking Cloud>You can leveldrain enemies without provoking an encounter>You can summon incorporal ghosts in act 1 that kill every major Unfair mini-boss that's not Undead>You spam every encounter with summons. With Guarded Hearth and Outflank and Inciter they can kill literally anything with enough numbersUnfair is a matter of patience.Any other game doesn't require even remotely as much experience to play hardest difficulty so they don't deserve build discussions.
she's right you know
I'm not sure if this counts as a CRPG but is the weapon or armor enchanter better in divinity 2?[NOT DIVINITY ORIGINAL SIN 2 I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE WHERE YOU'RE A DRAGON KNIGHT]
>>540632364never heard of it. sounds gay, kys just in case
>>540631135She has a sex party on her ship while dating you, broadcast your sex to your crew and talks about how she loved her ex bf who is now an enemy in her questline
>jungle portal in LoN>shopkeeper doesn't have any dialogue>doesn't even have a name
>>540628749BG2 should be the standard. Anything less than that is the devs failing to put in the bare minimum effort.Sometimes I think the developers just create shitty things on purpose because they hate gamers.
Is there an optimal way to explore Quetza Temer or am I just fucked and relying on RNG?
>>540632364Armor, the game gives you tons of good weapons but the armor is kinda mid.
>>540633173I mean I guess you could take screenshots of each map, circle the exists, and draw lines connecting the circles to where they lead.
>>540633173Google the map layout
>>540633173>>540633527actually scratch thatdraw arrows to where they lead, because direction matters. Going backwards doesn't always lead back to the same place.
>>540633173
>September 27th>temple of elemental evil still isnt out yet on steam
>>540625053>can a magus do two weapon fighting?You won't be able to use spell combat, which is Magus' whole schtick. You can still dip Titan Fighter if you want to do spell combat while one-handing something like a Greatsword, that works fine, although you take a minor penalty to your attack rolls, on top of the penalty you already get from using spell combat.
Has owlcat released any info on the character creation system yet?
>>540635612For what and no
>>540633173yeah. you can draw a graph.
>>540636182Dark heresy, im curious if they are keeping the origin+class system or doing something different.
>wait for four minutes for the effect to wear offthrilling
>>540636448yeah.well.i'm just not enjoying LoN.I think I'll drop it here. I'm just bored of it.
>>540636376We don't know yet but I see some returning abilities in screenshots
are there any good novels in the style of a Dark Heresy campaign?
Is it just me or are video games UI in general getting worse?
when did you stop being an owlslopper and played more than 4 rpgs?
>>540638958when did you start being confident enough to butcher the english language online?
Owlslopping forever
>owlkek>owlslopbehold, the two genders
>>540638381the opposite, really. look at something like bg2
TACTICAL ADVENTURES I CALL UPON YOU WITH POWERS GREATER THAN MY OWN!!!! THIS GENERAL IS SO ASS RIGHT NOW I NEED YOU TO DROP A RELEASE DATE AND ANOTHER TEASER FOR SOLASTA 2!!!! ILL LEGITIMATELY BE A FREE SHILL FOR YOU!!! IM TIRED OF THE SAME REPETITIVE ROMANCE AND KEK POSTING!!! PLEASE TACTICAL ADVENTURES ILL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING JUST DROP THE SOLASTA KINO ALREADY IVE GONE BEYOND PRAYING FOR IT THE EMOTIONS IM PUTTING INTO THE EVOCATION GOES BEYOND PRAYER!!! I NEED SOLASTA 2 NOW!!!
>>540626610>The Valerie romance in particular is one giant humiliation ritual where she keeps comparing you to her ex fuckbuddy.Sometimes I wonder: Is this just a shitposter escalating the bait for you's, or is it people who have not actually played the game accepting shitposts at face value and reposting them?I have seen both happening. Probably the former in this thread
>>540640546ask yourself this: how likely is it that someone actually played the valerie romance
>>540629679That, or dispel/debuff heavy set-ups
>>540601301I've heard it's only good in the first 2 hours and the rest is a painfully mediocre diabloid.
>>540640638>worlds most generic white woman romance Everyone picked it, it doesnt matter how bad/bitchy the character is.
>>540640638On the first three months of kingmaker?Pretty likely, over Octavia.
>humiliation ritualAnyone that actually uses this unironically is a /v/ reject that will inevitably start to schizobabble or post cuck pastas
Valerie won
>>540640638I'm playing it this time. In French
>>540640867>>540640874who the hell would want to be octavia's third wheel.>generic white womanthere's linzi and amiri, both of whom join you right at the start. you don't get valerie until halfway through the first act, at the very end of the biggest dungeon.>but you can't romance themi didn't know there was romance in kingmaker until i saw on here
I really loved Rogue Trader and WotR was one of my favourite games to play ever so I went back and got Kingmaker on saleAm I nuts or is this shit assDoes it get better after the spider kobold mite hellscape?
>>540641617>you don't get valerie until halfway through the first act, at the very end of the biggest dungeon.Wrong. Depending on your answers during Tartuccio's accusations, Valerie will join you right at the beginning instead of Harrim. As for Linzi, depending on your answers she might join Tartuccio. Imagine that. Only Amiri joins you regardless of what you say.You also get the chance to recruit her if you catch up to Tartuccio in the tomb, where you can convince one of the two companions who went with him to switch sides over to you.
I would have romanced the masked Tali if I played ME because I can see beyond race unlike racist players
>>540641885Its rough>Does it get better after the spider kobold mite hellscape?Uhh not sure if I can say
>>540642048oh neat.it would be a disaster to lose linzi, the only female halfling companion in all crpgs and the most upbeat one to boot. what happens if she joins the tart?
>>540640867>the sharan elf is the most romanced crpg character of all timeProof that crpg players get the romances they deserve.
>>540642430>what happens if she joins the tart?Basically the same that happens with the others who join him. You can convince her in the tomb to join you instead, or you can recruit her under the old sycamore.But I was pretty surprised during one of my runs when she went with Tartuccio. Never thought she would do that.
>>540641885that shit is, in fact, ass.the game was infamously jank during its lifecycle and and the devs have abandoned it for years.
>>540642430Everyone joins eventually.You can just end up with them not joining fully till act2 start.Also, Linzi is the only essential companion till endgame
>>540642349>>540642654The difference in quality between it and WotR is giving me serious whiplash
>>540642487>the most beautiful woman is the most romanced>this proooves!!!it proves men dgaf what women think or do
>>540642430>the only female halfling companion in all crpgsBtw: Mazzy
>>540586060No, I'm actually talking about boss of act 3 being unkillable and respawning after battle every time you kill her thus making it impossible to advance to the webway. Or the fact that none of the quests, including main quest, triggered upon your return to the ship. Or how you couldn't start the victory parade in act 1, thus being unable to procede.Perhaps suck less cock next time you post, you retarded cunt
>>540586619>Don't have tot ake AbelardW-whaaa? But who will polish my shoes if not my manservant?
>>540642731i didn't really think they were that different in quality. sure wotr has more QoL but i didn't think it's that much. of course i played kingmaker first. might look different going the other way.
>>540587550Trauma bonding makes relationships that don't last
>>540643192WotR starts with a pretty nice setpiece and the companions seem to all have good reasons for teaming up in terms of survival, leading up to a very strong climax with the first mythic level as you break the siege.My last two companions I got were following the world's most silly suicide bomber and went 'yeah sure idk' when they got invited to join with little fanfare
>>540603202>but wasn't the reason you got to commorragh because of yrilet?It was because of railroading and bad writing actually
>>540640867>the evil vampire elf is the most romanced male crpg character of all timeThis proves that the weaker sex is into conventionally attractive vampire twunks with perfect abs and hair who can turn them into a vampire so they can be together forever like that's so shallow men would never fall for that trick
>>540608082Because he wasn't born a hellknight? He was first a hellknight apprentice which is exactly the fighter subclass that he has 5 lvls in
>>540642941Those weren't bugs that I had. I was able to get all the way through to the necrons before patch 1 dropped.I'm sure that you had those problems, but it's probably either an issue with your system configuration, or a new bug introduced in later patches.
>>540643418How do you come to conclusion after seeing Shart being the most popular choice
>>540608324>Better romance than my belovedLol. Lmao even.
>>540643672I'm using Astarion to mock the anon above>people like attractive charactersTHIS PROVES SOMETHING
>>540624710Or take the Daeranpill like all enlightened straight white males
>>540638094Eisenhorn books I guess? He's an inquisitor and, uh, he investigates stuff
>>540643629>Those weren't bugs that I hadCongratu-fucking-lations, you fucking cocksucking faggot. But other people did. Game was literally unplayable for many, thus the abysmal reviews on release
>>540644241Rogue trader reviews were not bad early on (compared to kingmaker and Lex Imperialis release).Only bug I remember people consistently mention at release was the transition to act 5 which required toybox.Compared to Wrath release where Demon could not finis hand Lich could not do final mythic quest) more people could finish the game in the first month.The shit you describe matches more the first two months of Kingmaker than any Period of rogue trader
"Roguemaker had a bug-filled launch with many softlocks, gamebreaking glitches, content not firing and acts not being able to be started" and "Roguemaker was the most polished and least buggy Owlcat game" are not mutually exclusive.
>>540643408I see. Actually when I played wotr the first time, I felt much the same way you do. I thought the whole demon/angel thing was contrived, i hated the companions. where's my cheery linzi, why is this new girl constantly asking if she's helpful.cam doesn't have any real reason to stick with you once you get out of the cave, and guys like sosiel and daeran are also added with little fanfare.personally, i don't think the writing is the strong point for this dev. they shine on the system and on the choices you can make along the way.
>>540644694Sure, but I played rogue trader on release and I do not remember it being ravaged due to locks/not finishing acts. As in, not a consisttent enough problem to dominate steam reviews and threads on 4chan.This is not defending owlcat, just my impression of events 2 years ago.
>>540582005>>540581787If the game is so fucking easy, that I need to de-level; the game is too fucking easy. Bosses don't even DO damage, that is a balance issue. The game is boring because none of the content is engagning, or challenging or even worth paying attention to.
>>540645398You could also just stop playing
>>540644694Yeah, but rt is far from their most polished. And i'm saying this as someone who likes rt the most out of those three. Wotr is the most polished
>>540645525WotR is more polished with the 3 year headstart. Progression wise, RT had fewer issues.Still far too many, and that trend will continue with Dark Heresy
>>540645490I did, lmao. I also got my money back.
>>540644241I went back and read the reviews for the first two weeks.there is basically no talk of progression-breaking bugs.the criticisms include getting stuck on a combat turn, skipping combat turns, bugged talents, bugged line of sight, slow performance, co-op issues, area exit icons disappearing, auto save bugs, bad ai...a few guys mentioned they had to reload, but it doesn't seem that they weren't able to progress.basically, you hallucinated this entire idea of game-breaking bugs hitting many people.btw the reviews are very positive (the steam term) over the first two weeks, see chart. so you also hallucinated that there were abysmal reviews.basically you made it all up
AerieMorriganMerrilCassandraBreak up with Ashley and go with Tali in ME2Dawn StarKanerahGalfrey KibbelahRate my taste
>>540645816>btw the reviews are very positive (the steam term) over the first two weeks, see chartSo glad my memory is not shot>>540644547
>>540645816based fact-finder
Why did they do Pallegina so dirty in Pillars 2?and goddamn out of everyone to bring back, the two dudes who marcer voiced? really?
>>540646031>Dirty in 2She was annoying in 1, she just got a worse pesonal quest
>>540646031Xoti was the better black chick character in the game, because she reminds me of this girl I failed to hook up with. I made up for it tho.
>>540646382>Xoti was the better black chick>black chick???
>>540646031Pillars is an outlier in that ALL of the female companions are annoying retards. It's the only CRPG where I just venture around with my bros Eder and Aloth and disregard women. Kana too in PoE1, shame he doesn't join us in Deadfire and we get his sister instead.
>>540646602Well the bitch ain't white.
>>540646824O SAY CAN YOU SEE
Thats a mexican woman if i've ever seen one
>>540646951If white guys didn't impregnate all of the illegals in in the US, maybe it would be easier to tell these ambiguously brown bitches apart. Damn near the whole country looks like the same 5 instagram whores, but 20 pounds heavier.
>>540444831should this be the next OP or do we have Owlcat fatigue
>corrupt gold dragon is neutral alignmentthat literally makes no sense.
>>540647446Makes perfect sense. You are all for that dolla in the hoard
>>540647446It was CE when they first dropped the dragon update. But they changed it with the reasoning that you accepted the corruption but it's up to you whether you want to fight it or embrace it. It's cool in theory but in a path already as barebones as GD it doesn't really implement well.
I wish the weretouched shifter forms looked less goofy.
>>540646805Sagani was ok
>>540647382maybe make OP the Lionheart game, that one anon mentioned it
going to make a sandwich the next thread better be there by time I'm back
>>540645982Your taste and mine are very similar in older stuff but start to differ with Owlcat games. Though I prefer Liara->Tali to Ashley.
>>540646009yeah i think the guy is just mentally ill. i feel a bit awkward that i spent 5 minutes checking but i've never read reviews for RT so i wanted to check. i just bought it and started playing. it was great.I should play it again, it's been a few years. But I'm kinda burned out from LoN being so mediocre.
does DoW2 count as a CRPG?
My favorite CRPG is Red Alert 2
>>540649659You gotta understand that most of the spergs here don’t even play anything and just go off of the random shit they hallucinate
My favorite CRPG is Dark Souls 2
[Smile dangerously as I notice the lack of new thread being created]
Impregnating Pallegina mes Rèi through magical plot bullshit
My favorite CRPG is Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
>>540653051is this an [Evil] or a [Chaotic] option? I need to know because that's all that matters to me
My favorite CRPG is FIFA
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