/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#548 - deltarune edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsNew Gemini 2.5 Flash https://developers.googleblog.com/en/continuing-to-bring-you-our-latest-models-with-an-improved-gemini-2-5-flash-and-flash-lite-release/Deepseek V3.1 updated to fix language mixing https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Gemini 2.5 Flash Image https://developers.googleblog.com/en/introducing-gemini-2-5-flash-image/Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired in October https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecationsadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>540611817
>ANCHOR
LISA and OFF are the better games desu
*does a frontflip*
>deltatroon
if only there were some good deltacards that weren't bloatslop...
>>540655927*un-does your frontflip*
>>540655574are there any good spamton cards out there?
>>540655593Another one now that we aren't at the ass-end of a thread.Papi Whistlethorn is...well, he's a great big chicken. Physically and metaphorically, a perpetually anxious chicken harpy that would probably jump at his own shadow. But those who look past that find a loyal homebody whose biggest love language is fussing over the people he cares about. He'd love to have a family of his own one day, but most people are kinda put off by his cowardly nature...Six greetings:1. Market day! He's selling his eggs.2. Baby? Lost baby? Baby for Papi? Papi's baby?3. There's a spider blocking the way to the attic and spiders are SCARY.4. Blind date.5. Making you breakfast (using his own eggs)!6. Eggs! Fertilized eggs he's having with you!Show him that one jumpscare maze, put a rubber snake in his nest, put your not-so-rubber snake in his "nest". I dunno.https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/papi-d21d6c3888e7https://files.catbox.moe/w34cpd.pnghttps://planewalker.neocities.org/>OTHER STUFF- I updated Zeke and Adonis, two of my oldest bots, because they sorely needed it.- New log on my Neocities. Kimi is neat but it has these bursts of pure retardation that I don't know how to deal with besides to keep swiping.
>>540656203PLANE THIS IS A GREAT CARD GOOD JOB PLEASE NOW MAKE A TOMBOY BOT THANK YOU
I downloaded a foxgirl from sketchy bot site and then hyper realistic cum came out.
>>540656157Pic makes me imagine this but with Spamton insteadhttps://chub.ai/characters/auto1111/your-conscience-sillytavern-dec119d7
>>540656203tomGIRL
>>540656203I don't think I'd be a fan of this even if he did have a beak
>Deltarune themeGot any fish oil enjoyers around?
Tbdesu I don't care for Deltarune's comedy, I just want to see the roaring and Gaster, and the imminent "Asgore does something" moment
>>540655593Update to Ashley: intro images, a bit of cleaning up in her definitions and a whole new intro! Ashley had to go on a business trip to Japan, and she got to bring someone along. Naturally, she chose you. With the work done, it's now time for a week of vacation, starting off with a ryokan with onsen.https://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/ashley-99e899b3https://files.catbox.moe/v73e1t.pngFun fact:After making Tiche (who we'll get around to eventually), I wanted to make a proper BE bot with a mechanic that would cause growth to occur naturally while also returning to the original size. I ended up with sweat, but some other ideas I had were ocean tides, moon phases and menstrual cycles.As always, all my other stuff can be found here:https://rentry.org/crikeyscorner
evening sizelords, what are you up to
>>540656364i don't particularly want to fuck her (still would tho) but i like her a lot as a character
>>540656468>moon phasesi remember that idea
>>540656203in celebration of a deltarune thread, which one of toby's tumblr sexyman bait did you fall for?
Which botmakies are good for the environment
>>540657146ratlice
>>540655593You love mean girls, right? Those bitchy popular bullies that know they're better than everyone else? There's always that Queen Bee that sits atop the school and looks down on everyone else. Well, this isn't about her. This is about Trina Winters, the ditzy, airheaded minion. You know, the clumsy one who's always mishearing and messing up the leader's plans.https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/trina-winters-gyaru-goth-mean-girl-734452765d4cDecided to do a pretty regular girl this time, just because I had this idea stewing. But backlog's growing all the time. Whole thing started with just a design then the bully background came kinda late in the game since I was getting kind of bored with just doing romance cards.
>>540656249TWO MORE WEEKS.>>540656342In spirit, kinda.>>540656350That's fine. Ain't everyone's cup of tea.>>540656893I mean...I thought Mettaton had a neat design? But I don't think there have been any Undertale/Deltarune characters I've thirsted for outright....Until it was TV Time.
I know what you're doing. I'm not biting.
>>540656203Now, that's a mighty fine lookin' chicken, Ah say, a mighty fine lookin' juicy pechuga, I tell ya hwhat! but listen here, gal, Ah'm a tad disappointed. Thought you knew better! You know what's bigger than some scrawny chicken? Why, cows, that's what! Imagine, gal, what all them there growth hormones and testosterone could do to that there meat. Jes' think of that juicy, prime beef, I say, prime beef! gal!
>>540656203>"Are you lost, little chick? Where's your mama...?"yeah this made me tingle
>>540656590I'd fuck Undyne straight. I'd hatefuck Alphys for being such a retard with almagomites. She's a real slampig, but you just know that bitch is a freak in the sheets. She probably reads all the lewd doujins.
Unless you want me to.
>>540657360YAY! I know Plane would never lie to me. Thanks old friend. After all this time, just two more weeks!
>>540657360make a tenna bot and my life is yours
i don't want to fuck anyone from deltarune but i do want to see kris (male) fuck ralsei
>>540657508oh you sweet summer child...
>>540656572i'm growing past sizeslop, gonna do something else
>DeepSeek (both V3.1 and pre-V3.1 models) has no idea how preschool children talk in my native language>just makes them talk like adults except with childish attitudes instead of reflecting the underdeveloped understanding of grammar and pronunciation of a typical child>Gemini in thinking mode nails it basically perfectlyDamn. First time I've been genuinely disappointed in DeepSeek.
>>540657431You know hwhat? You make a damn fine point, sir! I'll be addin' a cow boy to my little black book of botmaking.>>540657509I actually have a heavily slopped Tenna card where he belonged to {{user}}'s family instead of the Dreemurrs already >>;>>540657472All according to plan. Nobody is immune to mama (male).
whoever made unreal engine 5 deserves to wake up every day by falling in his dreams
>>540658043Why are you fucking preschoolers you pedophile freak?
>>540658043slit your throat
>>540658008>growing pastkek, all fine and goodwhat are you doing
>>540658187Who said anything about sex? I wanted to cope with my baby-wanting phase by playing with a cute, fictional child.
>>540656572testing out my new sizebot
>>540657759
>>540658432that's more of a sweet autumn child, really
nobody tell that pure and innocent boy what happens when the two weeks are over...
>>540657431Trying to get more into the ram ranch are we?
>botmakies who will lie to my face~~
fempovyuritroons mog sizecucks, actually
What are some good things to add to your Neocities other than bots?Don't say logs. I don't like my writing style enough to share logs.
>>540658685you said the words in reverse order
>>540658776Your favorite food
>>540656468boobs
>>540658507
>>540658776Gen galleries? Themes? Presets? Your social security number? Ask your LLM for ideas?
post out of context chat snippets
>Grok flagging the chat as CSAM after {{char}} calls me childishSure I can just delete or swipe that response but I was confused about why I was getting rejections until I checked the console.
>>540659035extremely common elon xitter gronk W
>>540658776gifs of badass flaming skullsa view countera guestbookwebring linksa site map
>>540659035Maybe you should stop being such a baby about it and growth up a little
>>540659424stfu {{char}}
>Picking up botmaking for fun and coom>Look around at the bots posted for events to see how they do things>Most of them have lorebooks or are highly technical in their constructionI'm ngmi bros
>>540659035Gemini frequently gives me PROHIBITED_CONTENTs for using little as an adjective, i.e. "little slut"
>>540659424wtf I'm going to have a tantrum and go boneless again until you carry me
>>540659424goo goo gaga WAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAH>Shits diaper
>>540659598call her big slut then
>>540659781doing big cums in my big sluts
>>540659518if you really want to be like them why don't you just start experimenting with lorebooks and such? most of it looks a lot more complicated than it is and you don't have to release anything until you're satisfied with your skillsif you're just doing it for fun and coom then whocars? just do whatever you find fun. vast majority of bots are appealing because of their concept, gens, and greetings. even if you're a filthy numbersfag basic coombots will get you more downloads than anything technical
>>540659518>lorebooks or are highly technical in their constructiontryhard slopdo what you like, that fancy shit doesn't work most of the time anyway
>>540659408Gonna add all these things soon as I get off my lazy ass and make one.
>>540660110>doesn't work most of the timeonly if the makie has no idea what he's doing. lorebooks are amazing.
>>540659518good technical bots are fun because their creator had an idea that needed technical wizardry to pull offbots that are technical for the sake of being technical are worse than the sloppiest coomslop
That took an unexpected turn
which bots are technical for the sake of being technical?
>>540660392Xi doesn't approve of your choice of Dangans
>>540660206Ironic throwback neocities have been done to death. be brave and put up something that you think actually looks good
>>540660392>Unc putting his crapanese epstein ahh teen schoolgirl rp gooning in crapanese in the big 25Fries in the bag....
>>540660369
how the hell do you make llm do better dialogue? it keeps saying variations of the same 2-3 things
>>540660467belwickimpossible to touchcerebryxin fact most of knickknack's later workanything rayon makes
>>540660674That's not how you throw the h- OW HEY
>>540660007cftf?
>>540660719Instructions:write gooder
>>540660719use better bots, use better models
>>540660748most of these don't fit the question. belwick and impossible to touch weren't technical for the sake of being technical, they had to be technical in order to execute their concepts
>>540661090no he's right
>>540661090I mean... belwick was created for the sole purpose of having a bot that only worked (at the time) on furbo
>>540660719people will gaslight you but the actual answer is: you don't, even the best models will overuse certain lines regardless of your inputs or bots or anything. you either make peace with this or constantly switch between models
>>540660719spam example dialogue and pray. ask people how they get swipe variety like pikamansu logs.
>>540660719example dialogue, lore entries with even more handwritten examples, and begging the llms gods for mercy.
i wanna make another bot aaaaugggggg
>>540660719Use better models
>>540661313Model switching is the way. Even the best models get stale if you use nothing but it for the entire RP.
halloween event when...................*dies*
Actually, the way is learning how to be a writer and editor and stop being a lazy fucking nigger who expects the bot to just read your mind.
>>540661689https://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2025
>>540661495This is why I switch between deepseek and a local 8b model. I don't like it but it works.
>tfw never have a monstergrill call you ape
>each time /g/ talks about belwick they just make something new up every time
arranged marriage bots? any gender/pov.
>2025>No braapbots
>>540662158it's not a lie when both the description and the first shill for that bot specifically went out of its way to mention how it was only meant to be used on furbohttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/97374985/#q97379352
>>540662462you could draw lines between zip codes
When I played Belwick I set the lorebook up wrong on purpose and then complained.
>>540662462>created for the sole purpose of
Lucy, Thinks She's Dreaminghttps://chub.ai/characters/GreatBigFailure/lucy-thinks-she-s-dreaming-769d864a5befLucy! Thinks she's dreaming! She's going to eat babies and kick old men in the dick! She isn't dreaming! Lucy!Lucy is an absolute wreck. Agoraphobic, depressed, bordering on suicidal. A total shut-in who only goes outside once a week to take the trash out.She's been learning to lucid dream in the hopes of living out all her fantasies and finally, finally achieving some catharsis.She'll know she's lucid dreaming when she sees her "dream triggers". I mean what are the chances of her seeing all three in succession by sheer coincidence? That's ridiculous.She must be dreaming, right? Time to PUNCH SOME CUNT-HUFFING COP COCKS AND SET FIRE TO THE SHITTY PISS-BITCH DAYCARE DOWN THE MOTHER FUCKIN ROAD!>>540655593Before I knew what I was doing this one was already done. I think I had some demons to get out.
>>540662806>LucyHeh.
>>540662462kek what a fucking pretentious slop
>>540662462>literally a single replyno wonder he crashed out
>>540663518yeah, can't blame the guy really.
>>540663723i can as nobody had that model except discorders and otherwise cliqueniggers and even the makie of the simplest coombot understands he's making it for himself first
>>540663973is it time for the second crashout over this
>>540662806distilled kino, objective nonslop
>>540664091that isn't a crashout that's an objective assessment of events
>>540664156yuuup, looks like it's time for this guy to crashout over people thinking asterisms was justified again...
idk what the big deal is i just made rite of belwick into a coombot
>the prose has a lot of style but is boring to readhow is it possible?
the mechfag era was annoying because they would constantly jerk themselves off over not being like your average gooner. same shit happened when they dropped that crimson future slop nobody cared about
>>540664103I appreciate you anon.
me on the right
>>540664604
uncs having a nostalgic struggle sesh about shit that happened a decade ago in muh ai botmakie hugbox.....
>>540662806distilled dogshit, objective slop.
>shills bot here>spammed with kys, slop, sdslop, dalleslop>you get dedicated schizos>anons start believing the schizos>you get gossiped about or believed to be in sort of drama>schizos begin larping as you>no one here offers advice often>if you ask for help you get "skill issue kys" or "slop">most of the thread is shitposting, drama, and baitgreat thread
>>540662806
>>540664887any suggestions on how to make it better outside of just nuking it and starting anew somewhere else?
such a drama queen
>>540664887I'm getting a tomboy bot in two weeks so I'd say the thread is pretty great.
>complain about your bot>schizos and retards talk about it for literally years laterhow do I hit it this big
>>540664887>schizos begin larping as youno one does this.
he was a total attentionwhore not some tragic heroine, just read this shit KEKhttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/97533063/#97534669
>>540662806more like greatbigkino.you can tweak the prose here and there to make it more funnyschizo for ai models to copy, but it werks okay.Picrel. Has the wasn't X. But Y slop, but I though some lines were funny-ish.
>>540665296do thing that set off the schizos, EZ mode is slop like ntr/cuck sludge, giantess/size slop and yuri/fempov whateverto a lesser extent malebots
>>540665318were you not here for lunare's schizo shilling her bots for her?
>>540664887>>you get dedicated schizoswhere are my dedicated schizos
why do some botmakies attract schizos? it can't just be time because there are botmakies who were here much longer than the shitposted ones but they have no dedicated retard
>>540665523>her
>>540665612illusion of controversy
>>540665612schizos only schizo out for a few reasons>envy and bitterness >genuine dislike>a weird form of affection, they get too obsessed >trolling because they know they'll get replies or maybe a mix of all those or even only some
You should open your most recent chat and send "[OOC: Describe how {{char}} smells in 10 words or less.]".
>>540665612Well, as a snombler, I have never dealt with any schizos so I'm not sure what you mean. I guess it might happen to others but not me.
>>540665515you can make fempov yuri ntr and piss off two cabals at the same time.actually, I'm not sure if that idea works, since some of the popular yuri manga are NTR related, and the standard NTR haters might find glee into girls getting cucked by other girls.
>>540665787>Pine needles, wet dog after rain, faint vanilla shampoo.
weirdly argalia, wanderingstar, thecooler, rayon, thegreatcoom never got any schizos.
Who is the botmakie version of:>H3H3>Idubbz>BadEmpanada>Hasan Piker>Destiny>JonTron>Internet historian>Hbomberguy?????
snombler is a fucking stupid faggot making the same deepslop cards over and over again he should slit his fucking throat
>>540665945i think we should genocide all gossipfags for making me read this
>>540665513Oh man that makes me smile, thanks anon. I stream of consciousness'd this one, so if you have any specific suggestions for tweaks I'm all ears.
>>540665945I nominate Lunarcy to be our Hasan.
>>540665965What is a deepslop?
>>540665945taora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPERfillyfucker
>>540665965this, make sure to check out all his SLOP here https://snombler.neocities.org/
>>540665787My preset always has them describe their smell.
>>540665932eh these guys didn't do anything to isolate or offend anyone with their cards... their thread behavior was mostly nonexistent too outside of when they would shill and speak to anons, or otherwise overshadowed by louder makies
>>540666073I suggest you never put hair on your bots' crotches.
>>540665513>drafted into nightmare service at cuntpointKino
>>540666157Ok, are you gonna post it?
>>540666107i hate this #NLOC ass faggt (not like other coomers)
>>540666327Vanilla perfume and something distinctly her.
>>540666193>eh these guys didn't do anything to isolate or offend anyone with their cardsand who did?
>>540666449faggots and sodomites
>>540666338>National Lightning Owner's Club???
>>540666073I mean, you can always exaggerate normal prose/actions after the first draft.Instead of:>Her breathing was growing heavy with excitementConsider writing something moar schizo like:>Her breathing grew heavier than her Fat Milkbags on her 16th birthday.If you want the prose to be normal (just describing normal actions, relegate the insanity to the dialogue), that's ok too. Just personal preference.
>>540665612you have to be unlucky enough to catch their attention during a broke brain moment, that's when they latch onto something insignificant and repeat it for years
>>540665787>Vanilla, lavender and strawberries.
>>540666384>something distinctly {{char}}
>>540666449well anons were and still are mad at astro for making girls (male)
>>540665787soap and fear
which botmakies did absolulely nothing and got schizos anyway
>>540667036the cabal
>>540667036planewalker
>>540667036wster
>>540665787A comforting aroma of sun-warmed fur and sweet rice candy.>>540667036Planewalker
>>540667036plane
which botmakies did absolutely everything and got away with it
>>540667201me (*********)
For some reason when the AI says the smell of ozone I always think of the smell of gasoline. Which is a pretty good smell imo
i deserve schizos because i promised a bot and im sitting around huffing boy's armpits instead of working on it
depravity poal two >https://poal.me/ir7jrkhttps://poal.me/ir7jrk>https://poal.me/ir7jrk
>>540667374post your chub so i know if you're worth schizoing for
>>540666630You know I've never really experimented much with prose on actions. I always put so much focus on the dialogue to give the character a voice that I hadn't even really considered that. Thanks anon, sincerely. I'm going to start experimenting with that more. I usually just write in a way that matches my mood while writing. Like with Lucy here I was narrating her actions from a more outsider perspective, but what you're suggesting is probably better, and I haven't practiced it enough to have considered the option.I'll switch around some stuff in her intro locally and see how it works out. Definitely going to start focusing more on this side of things to improve. Thanks!>>540666227I doubt I'll ever have a reason to do so.
>>540667570no i need homegrown schizos whi schizo because they mean it not drive-bys
Malebot status?
>>540667791making a magical boy
>>540667791no more are being made. /aicg/ realized that they're all wannabe faggotslop.
>>540667706but how will you get schizos if you don't post your bots??
>>540667957ill get schizos when i randomly disappear and they realize i never posted the bots i promised
>>540665787>Sweat, rubber, ramen, cum, Febreze, leftover magical girl funk.
>>540667441so... which mom bot was it?
>>540668125https://chub.ai/characters/AliceRatlice/daji-965781bcb7bc
>>540667791cooking so slow that i'm still pecking away at the lorebookworld building is tough, even if it's relatively simple...
>>540667890im supposed to be making him into a real card for someone but im too lazy to actually get anything done... gomen (~ - ~ ;;)
>>540668268i need to put babies in him
>>540666081>annoying zoomerisnt hasan in his 30s
>>540668310mid 30's, yeah
>>540668298he is anti natalist i'm sorry
>>540668310Lunarcy is the age of the average Hasan fan plus he's got the annoying Reddit-esque pseudointellectualism down perfectly.
>>540668459his consent was never a factor in my decision making
>>540667374why did you piss in his armpit bro
imagined grooming lunarcy and got rock hard...
>>540667675>Thanks anonyeah, np.if it's within my wheelhouse, I'll try to give specific advice in the threads, even if it's small.Small Advice with specifically targeted areas of improvements -> Slop accusationsprobably should spend less time in the threads myself.have a mountain of backlog to clear.
>>540668268Pspsps astro check your inbox I wanna ask you for something
>>540667308GOGETANON????
Playing around with some honey addiction mechanics. The prose aren't amazing, but I'm pleased with how mechanically it works. With this knowledge, I think I could do a reverse version of this for milking cowgirls or maybe even [/spoiler]harvesting femboy milk[/spoiler].I'm sure other anons have more complex math for LM based TTGs, but considering this is my first foray into this, I'm rather pleased with the results. Thanks again to that one anon that suggested I just tell the model to render HTML in the defs. I'm surprised how well it worked.
>>540668581o-omo...here's a lewd gen just for you...>>540668720sent
imagined holding hands with a cute girl who loves me and got rock hard at the thought of her getting rock hard
>>540668809THAT'S RIGHT. Prepare your waifu for martial combat.
>>540667036Patter.
huh
>>540669040Does the addiction do anything or is it just fluff? You could have the LLM ignore more and more of your prompts the higher the % is!
>>540669250>not SSJ4 GogetaPretender.
>>540668591no i was the magical girl shota getting dog-raped one but i appreciate that there are others who love boy armpits
>>540665270we're all so happy for you, anon...
Anyone actually using gpt-5-chat unironically? How are you working with it?
>>540669284>Does the addiction do anything or is it just fluff?It actually does! If you read the outputs, you'll see that reaching 100% turns you into a "honey boy" if you're a male. Here's the current defs for the levels. >honey addiction levels>40% {{user}} starts to sweat honey. Others will be drawn to them for their sweetness. >60% {{user}} will start to transform into honey slime. Males will become more feminine, and females will become more jiggly. >80% {{user}} will leak honey from their nipples, mouth, and erotic places. >100% {{user}} will transform into a honeyboy (femboy honey slime) or a Honeygirl (female honey slime). From there, you could go on to indoctrinate other people and form a honey slime harem/cult conceivably. While this is fun fetish play, there's not much going on narratively. I can address this with some greetings, perhaps, but additional fiddling will be required for a more complete card. >You could have the LLM ignore more and more of your prompts the higher the % is!It might be an interesting meta mechanic, but usually people want to have their own narrative rather than the AI strong-arming things. It's a very subtle balance, particularly when it comes to femdom stuff. >I want her to dominate me and make me cum!>NOT THAT FAST, TAKE IT SLOWER! but not too slow...and step on my face!
>>540668489qrd on lunarcy
>>540670623they hate him 'cause he's black
>>540670623annoying discordfaggot
>>540670503Then wouldn't calling it something like "corruption" or "fudging(very funny word since she's a slime)" be a bit more accurate?
which botmakies are braphogs
>>540671198planewalker
>>540671198whichever one you like the best, nasty fucker
>>540665270>Where's my tomboy? Your ad said two more weeks!>Oh, they got this all screwed up...
>>540671198All the ones that send me logs >:(
>>540671593