Edgy CL4NKER editionLegendary farm google doc thing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1bw4-jnEBbwCa3EnJ9cp8HW839ymgzbbHKIGRo9wgNyo/htmlview?usp=drivesdk&pli=1#https://xsmashx88x.github.io/Shift-Codes/Previous: >>540483826
I nneed my shift codes randy
>TFW no batshit insane Ripper GF
>>540699426Rafa is not a robot is he?
One-Crit-Wonder on the mission to get to UVH 3 is such an easy WIldcard. Especially with skills that give every shot a crit chance. This mission is a breeze
>>540699703what vh has that
>>540699703Vex. I think I've seen it on Jakobs enhancements as well
>>540700105>>540700050
In my 60+ hour playthrough I've had three legendary class mods for my class that were sold in vending machines. Two out of those were in the last 15 minutes lmao. Sometimes RNG is weird
How are you enjoying Borderlands 4? I didn't like 3. I'm playing through TIny Tina atm with my girlfriend, but the story is annoying me, and I'm not too keen on the instanced shit.
ok guys i thought this game runned like crap (which is true btw) but i've seen a eceleb streaming and his game felt way more smooth than mine for some reason. any tips on how could i fix the annoying stuttering problems? i got a 5070 TI and i'm already using dlss in perfomance and frame gen
>>540700679very much the gunplay is satisfying as helldidnt like 3
>>540700679I'm loving it so far. Probably gonna end up being my favorite game in the series, as long as they don't fuck up the DLC and post-launch content.
>>540700679bl4 is just as good as bl2 they just need to fix the performance issues. 3 is aids
>>540700743I just did what Randy said and lowered from 4k to 2k and now the game runs fine for me.I'm an elderly boomer now though, I used to mess with settings, now I can't be bothered. It ran like shit at 4k though.
>>540700679Story is just meh but that's an improvement compared to 3. Gameplay-wise it's the best it's ever been but the environments don't really feel memorable. Endgame is kinda empty right now but I guess this will change with future updates. Overall good.
I was here on release day and everyone was saying Vex is badI'd just like to say you were all very wrongShe's retarded OP with the Reapers
>>540700972The only character I've seen people call bad is Amon.
>>540700679Overworld music is gone in 4 other than that, story is whatever gameplay is fantastic
I really enjoy how the game filters shitters right before the timekeeper fight by ramping up enemy difficulty and forcing you to play your ass off even if you have good gear and a good build. By the time you get to the final fight it's back to being at your level but they make you work for it to get there. Great story desu. Could've used a touch more cringe humor, felt a little dry, but was far from bad.
>>540701016ah, so people have in fact taken the vexpill
>>540701027>>540700903>>540700830>>540700796>>540700791I keep trying to play Borderlands 3, but every minute there's a new character that I'm supposed to clap when I remember, but I don't remember them. Does 4 have that problem? I've got a 9070XT, so I'm expecting at least 60fps on medium
JH6BB-6RST3-5FB35-JT3BB-R3WCB JZRTJ-SR9BB-W6T35-BJBTT-36FZR BSFTB-TZ9BB-KRJBK-TTJB3-6S3KScode
Sadly none of those mute the hnnggg aaargh sliding and jumping voice lines
>>540701608There's a lot, a lot, less npcs in bl4
>>540701608Most of the characters are new but there are like 5 that come to my mind from older entries
>>540701608Nah. There a few returning characters, but most of the cast is new.
>>540701186yeah i felt the only silly quests were the thresher fucker and flat earth ones
Vex buttl
>>540702232Cyberpunk 2077 reference??
>woah a robot vault hunter with random chance mechanics!yeah cool, we say that over a decade ago with claptrap
So what happened with the Kaleidosplode
just a small get together
Okay was the guy in the last thread talking about switching from heartpiercer vex to a kinetic reaper blue build. Found that investing heavily in both middle and right blue tree was the way to go with some excess points kicked over for kinetic attunement's lifesteal. Only major gear changes was swapping away from crit knife and changing one of my enhancements to get reel big fist 3 and G00JFC 2. Since the reaper's lifestyle all goes to me anyway teen witch still proved a good class mod for keeping me comfortably alive. Works so far in UVHM5 but probably still needs a lot of improvements. I found mobbing a bit slower and a bit inconsistent with the reapers travel time compared to flick of the wrist heartpiercer heavily damaging most mobs but even without the crit knife bossing was comfortable albeit slow. I think I clocked in 10ish min to beat both parts of the final boss and my playstyle has shifted to really being in CQB alternative melee strikes and gunfire as needed. Reaper AI needs help though. While it can hit most things, bosses that float in the sky like phase two final boss have them kinda just chilling at it where its ankles would be so not hitting at all
>>540703947Oh the melee override fully upgrade haruspex? It kinda fucks
>>540700679You will grind the dungeon and you will LIKE IT.
I've killed Axemaul at least 500 times now and this fucking thing drops ever 4-5 kills. I've found at least 80 of them, which is 4-5x more than the other legendaries I have found.behead all satans
>>540704067obligatory forgot picture reply
>start at level 30>can't replay story>still have to manually visit every fast travel point>0 gear>no sdus>loot 2 survivalist caches, still not a single usable gun>every enemy is 3+ levels above you>try doing the mine for a laugh, the boss hp isn't even movingSo they didn't test this shit at all, huh.If everything is locked and has to be done again, I think I might as well start at lvl 1.
>>540704252>drop the difficulty back down to normal or hard>do Vile Bounties for 30 minutes>you're now level 33 and everything is the same level as youit's literally that easy, retard
why are jacobs weapons the only fun ones
>>540704469because if you are remotely good at video games and shooting heads accurately Jakobs (and some Order weapons) are pretty much the only ones that reliably one shot kill.Jakobs, Order, Daedalus are the only ones I found fun to use
I uh i dont get the water puddles, is there a timeframe you have to use them to get loot?
Can I make waypoint path permanent?
foliage density is fucking me up
How bad would it be to rush story to max level THEN do all the side stuff
nobody tell Randy but my grenade often glitches out and starts spawning a million copies of itself on enemies, it's hilarious. I've been using this for the past 22 levels because it's broken
RANDY YOU FUCK LET ME SKIP DIALOGUE
>>540705764I had a similar one with divider atomic spawning augment satchel charge. Throw one and it leveled everything on the screen.found it at level 20 something and used it all the way to level 50
game needs>sdu and map travel points unlocked for alts accountwide>badass points>badass evolution enemies like bl2
you can't convince me they didnt fuck with the drop rates of targeted legendaries or introduce an unintended bug that fucked with them I have killed axemaul 327 times tonight and not once had a weapon drop. I have gotten the axe grenade 10 times, the repkit 8 times and not a single weapon even one time.Two nights ago I killed him 200 times and got the Bod 10 separate times.
>queue up for moxxi's big encore>join someone who is not doing moxxi's big encore
>>540700679like it more than bl2
>>540709398same here brother
this shit is broken
>>540709717cheatin ass nigga
>>540709878stop speak like mongoloid
any character like moze?
game has pulled me in hardgameplay is basically perfect. Feels fantasticI could whinge about some of the characters/story (far too tranny coded) but that's kind of to be expected, no one is here for the dialogue. Which is why Randy should let me skip it more easily. The first time it's new so it's not so bad, when replaying missions, It's really annoying to pause me to listen to them yap
>>540710829She isn't in 4 so nobody mentioned her yet, but I think it's save to assume all of 3 vault hunters like her
>>540711536i mean, infinite ammo shit and big explosions all over the place
>>540711864kinda, explosions thing i the black chicks schtick
lads, we FUCKING did it.
Oh hell naw
>>540712709I'd play her since she looks interesting but I really hate her hair and outfit
>>540709717Why is it red?
>>540712905>since she looks interestingin what possible fucking way does her character look interesting?
>>540712965Her ability tree with CC and explosions
>>540712905At least you can give her some mask
>>540712952im colorblind
>>540713015oh phew, I thought you were talking about her physical appearance.
>>540713041>du-rag and gauges surprised no one called this out
generic hackneyed DEI design aside, Harlowe is pretty fun to play. And Vex is pretty hot, so they have one attractive woman and one DEI nonsense character, that's actually pretty fair in today's corporate controlled mainstream media world.
Yeah but i don't like S*rens
BIG buff coming tomorrow What do you want your vault hunter to get?
>>540712675what roll did you get?
Is there a useable save editor to unlock all the map on new characters?
>>540713182>And Vex is pretty hot......yes.........
>>540713112Ah right, I remember the game having quite a few different colorblind options. So that's what it changes
>>540713586https://github.com/j-suey/bl4_save_editor
>>540700679I'm having fun. Could be the perfect Borderlands with few updates and story DLCs
>>540713571nothing very good, it's just a weapon skin though so once you get it you can apply it to any of them.
he just up and died like that
So... Randy FAGGOT Pitchford want me to clear his ubislop map 4x times?
>>540699093>c4sh>its a premium vh
>back out of black market vending machine because it only has crap>on cooldown
>Talk to NPC>Wait five minutes while they babble on >Click some item>Wait five more minutes>Now you can do the quest4 games complaining about this and 4 games where they don't do shit to fix it
>Moxxi mod for Vexfinally some good shit
>>540715989So if you for some reason wouldn't have enough money to buy something you are fucked? lol
>>540699093I have not played a Borderlands game since 2 so here we go, should I bother watching a ""story so far"" video or does it legit not matter
>>540718263Here's your recap:Maya is deadTannis got Angel's siren powers, but she and most of the cast aren't in 4Lilith is the firehawk and on fire and the bestest and most important person in the world
>>540712709why they gotta make em as ugly as possible? just make the bitch from carcadia playable instead and nobody would complain
>>540718726You left out literally the one important piece of context
>>540718726>No Tannis in 4Damn she was my fav
rape Tannis
>>540712709I am so fucking sick of getting class mods for this DEI hire. I swear I have +80% class mod drop rate on her shitI still have not seen a SINGLE class mod that even adds +skills to my talent tree (vex, blue). Sometimes orange or green. Never blueDriving me mad bros.
>>540718263it literally doesn't matter
is it true that pickle is in 4?
>>540720584I'm having the opposite problem. I'm playing Harlowe and have seen nearly every legendary class mods for all of the other VHs.
>gliding is fun>gameplay feels pretty much perfect, super fluid and responsive, what I want to happen generally happens (minor exceptions like melee sometimes grabbing stuff, but overall it's near perfect)>Vex is fun>The gore is really good, like blowing enemies limbs off is very satisfying if you take a second to actually pay attention
I can't believe that of all melee builds melee vex is what I end up landing on. Granted I did need 2 legendaries to make it work but somehow it functions in UVHM5
>>540721452>>540720584Yeeeah, about that...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFViMiDCctk
The Elpis dialogue shows they can actually do good comedy writing without relying on memes. It's a bit of a shame they didn't have more of the game with multiple characters constantly interacting with each other.
Anyone else disappointed when they got to the city hoping you'd get to fuck shit up in a super isolated paradise type place?
>>540723106Ye it was cringe that it's just some shithole
>>540721452Drop rates for class mods seem borked. From my own experience and reading what other players are saying, it appears that you will see higher drop rates for mods for classes that you aren't playing. i.e. if you play Rafa you will see mods drop for Vex, Amon and Harlowe more often. Seems like a bizarre choice.
>>540723270incentivizes you to have alts
>>540723417Being able to skip dialogue and lvl 30 start not being retarded would incentivize that better
>>540723417Sure I guess, but there are better ways to incentivize playing other classes. And it always feels shit when you get a legendary class mod drop for a character you dont have/aren't interested in playing.
what does this even mean
>gliding around as vex>my reapers following me around>I am a wave of death chucking grenades and chucking the daggers with the satisfying charge up>the constant damage ticks and XP from my minions as I fly around, only occasionally bothering to raise my actual weaponoh im comfy
>>540725208GB did a fuckywucky
>>540725856what is happening with your face area
Might be a stupid question but bladed guns still exists in BL4 right? I remember seeing really really early int eh game but I can't seem to find any more now that I've hit lvl 50 and am build crafting
is Rafa gay?
>>540725874huh??
>>540727832Is Rowenta ro whateverthefuck trans?
Beat Tiny Tina.Molest Tiny Tina until she cums.Thoughts?
>>540727915A wittle fucko boingo
>>540727832No, he's latinx so that's enough inclusivity for one characterAmon is a white male so he's the gay one
>>540727832Seems like he flirts with everyone from the v/o I've heard.
>>540727832Nah he's latino zesty not zesty zesty. He makes a lot of remarks on how hot certain women are but not about men.They made the big masculine white man the homo to make sure the diversity points add up properly
>>540728137the fuck u mean
Am i fucking myself by playing harlowe
>>540728785>latinxThey don’t actually call him this right
>bloated empty open world>most sidequests have a random reward (either purple or below)>named enemies dont have dedicated drops (i dont even think they respawn, didnt bother checking since well, no drops)>(subjective) the VHs aren't interesting gameplay wise>a lot of the legendaries feel mid while also being having low drop ratesIf not for the open world, the game would probably be the shortest in the series. That's not a bad thing, I'd honestly take it. The story is good but I wasn't happy with my VH of choice, Amon. I finished it, started a new character, chose Rafa and I cant stand the lefist liberal portrayal of spics who speak english with an accent and sometimes throw some spanish words into the mix.Im thinking about starting as Harlowe, it sucks that there is no gunslinger like fl4k in the game, I'll definitely play that dlc character. Im honestly thinking about replaying bl3 with some mods that lower the drop chances, I've rewatched joltzdude's mod run of bl3 and honestly... bl4 kinda doesn't feel like borderlands anymore
>>540704614watch the icon, it will say "BITE!" or "NOW" or something when you should press the button to grapple. its just a button press mini game.
>>540730652it does?? what the hell
>>540709398I was killing bramblesong for a convergence yesterday and legit got two legendaries from the general pool with phosphene skins before I got a convergence from the boss's dedicated pool. Then I only got a bunch of the grenades, after about 250 kills over a few sessions I got 3 convergence with none of the parts or elements I wanted.
>find nice looking gun>ripper magAnyways, I hate that I can't always just be on-level with the enemies, I'm mid-28 and this mission calling itself "normal" difficult is a total lie, and I'm sick and tired of farming splashzone
>>540718726>no tannis in 4what is even going on in bl4 then, is the order eridians from Bl1 and some of 3 that even gave them any attention
>>540711864Amon ordnance tree has almost no cooldown on his ordnance (rocket launchers/grenades/miniguns) and can amp up his damage with them. He's getting buffs but he can spend almost all of his time spamming rocket launchers.
>>540731363BL4 besides lilith and some previous VH has no really reckognizable npcs anymore
>>540716656respawns in 30 minutes with 4 new rolls on the 2 items for the week at least.
>>540731363>lilith takes the moon that was about to crash into pandora and teleports it *somewhere*>sanctuary takes a small crew to go and try to find where they went (Moxxi, Zane, Amara, Claptrap)>other vaulthunters are also searching (our introduction)>elpis smashed into the invisible shield around kairos where 4 takes place>we find elpis>sanctuary comes to try and communicate, gets affected by the shield, crash lands and can't get a message out about where they found elpis>we crash landed and start shooting psychos before we get captured at the end of the story you help the outbounders get an order ship up and running with a warp drive, they take off to go and make contact with the rest of the crimson raiders and let them know where elpis/sanctuary/and lilith ended up. thats likely the story hook of the dlcs, they can say "oh so and so got the message and came along, HOW BADASS IS THAT!?"
>>540726220maybe you should ask the timekeep for help
>>540731278Ripper mags can be great since they give a damage increase to the gun. Like vladof smg with a ripper mag has the ramp up time but it also changes the accuracy of the vladoff turning it into a god damn lazer that you can stream directly into weak points until reload. Ripper mag on an order gun removes the order charge and fire mechanic and replaces it with the ripper mag ramp up, but you still get the extra bonus damage to the shots that you would have gotten from charging.
How does this game go through years of development as a co-op shooter and not have PC text chat, fuck sake that's so brain dead
>>540725208I guess what that other anon means is that the message that describes why it is locked hasn't been set, so they did some fuck up during programming / setting flags
>>540727186Yes, I believe my Goalkeeper has a blade on it.
remember to check vending machines for firmware once you start to farm for them, i was able to complete my high caliber on vex and 2/3 of the ordnance one for amon just from some vending machine farming.
>>540732125unfinished story and get dlc to finish it slowly in the next year or two, damn
>>540734393thats every borderlands game though, even 1. we got a few things to kill in 1 but didn't really get any big boss farming until dr ned dropped, then mad moxxi and the knoxx farmory after that. the base game is the intro to get you geared just enough to play the real farming they want you to buy extra.
>>540699093what does the ending of the campaign mean for Lillith?also are we finally getting closer to The Great War?also Lillith looks wicked sick with her long hair
>>540734919idr mad moxxi or even dr zed being amazing patches to farm. MM thought it was just arenas but dr zed didn't give good guns afaikgeneral knoxx + crawmerax though very valid but also introduced the whole raid boss thing for BL
>>540735051we can guess that with the voice of the last sentient being alive in the universe in the timekeeper's vault being lilith's she was the only survivor of the great war and will be the last thing to see the universe finally end, so arjay was right and we fucked everything by helping free lilith.
>>540735196zed had a few things off of zed and the big frankenstein fucks but it was fairly bare bones, moxxi added the arenas but you're right knoxx was the first real repeatable farming activity. i spent months on the gearbox forums helping with the farmory project to see if we could influence the drops we got. and after the community testing we found we could, to a degree.
>>540734334Never did a firmware change, how much eridium does it cost?
>>540736980i think its based off of the rarity of the item but its usually $60k cash and like 60 or 70 eridium. note that taking the firmware from an item destroys the original item and locks the firmware on the item it is transferred to. so if you have a perfect class mod for example be super sure which firmware you want to attach to it since you won't be able to change it later.
honestly i'm just gonna watch the story of 4 on youtube, I might get the game if its interesting enoughcan anyone recommend a video?
>carcadia faction quest line>8 bugs so far>missing spawns galore>quest givers not giving>constant resettingI just threw my hands up and closed the game down.
>>540738416You might as well just skip the game, then. The story is nothing to write home about.
>>540738625>uvhm unlock mission is a replay of the ripper factory one>have to do the whole repair carcadia thing and drive around for 50 hours>softlocks right before the boss>relog>completely resets progress, have to do it from the beginningWho thought this was a good idea. This also means I'm never going to use mission replays in general AND they didn't implement TVHM.
>>540739190It wouldn't be so bad if we could skip the fucking dialog
>>540738416the story is the only good part, the skill trees are boring, the legendaries are boring, the performance is shit
Borderlands 4 made me realize being racist is stupid
>>540741376...ly fun
>>540736980>>540737185about right, did a few combinations and the prices goes up or down $5k - $10k cash and 10 eridium.
I used to be racist, homophobic, transphobic, and generally bigoted, but Borderlands 4 made me question a few things.
>>540741979Same. I still am, but I used to be too.
>3 days of farming on 2 characters>300+ killswould have a preferred a kinetic with the jakobs part but this thing still fucks all sorts of shit up on harlowe. feels worth the grind now that I'm using it.
>>540738416Why would anyone care that much for the story of a video game?
>>540743380go back
>4 DEI goblin characters with base game>1st DLC character is conventionally cool lookingShould've included him from the get-go. I won't ever give you money for the base game Randy.
Is Rafa's Dancer class mod locked with the 25% cooldown rate every drop has it
>>540743538Yeah, I'll go back playing video games for their gameplay. Thanks for reminding me.
>>5407443594 may be the game I'll play the most if the 2nd DLC character is as cool as the one we've been shown. I have 0 interest in the 4 base ones
I was planning on only playing Vex because I like playing Sirens primarily in BL games (save for 3, I disliked the siren so I played as Moze), but C4SH looks really cool, might play as him as well
>>540744537Or have some self control and refuse to give them money for the abomination in the first place. You WILL get 4 black characters in BL5 otherwise.
>>540744883I rarely buy games so Im fine with getting the dlc, if bl5 is bad I will just not buy it
>zanzibart questactually kino
>>540733859so i'm shit out of luck
I RESENT YOU FOR DISLIKING A GAME I SPENT MONEY ON, TIME TO DIE
>>540709398I don't get why this stuff isn't easily published the moment a patch drops. This is the fifth Borderlands game. Surely the dataminers know how to automatically export this information by now.
Trying to think up what "non-lethal" weapons would look like in Borderlands.
>>540754001A gun that shoots dismembered psycho arms
>>540741979You literally get to decide if a troon lives or dies in this game.
>Brapper-Licensed Magazine>Odor-Licensed Magazine
>>540755274I actually like ripper on some gun, it can turn semi-auto into full-autoOrder tho I dont see the point at all
>>540755506Order is ok on some things like a multishot sniper since the spread is so minimal it makes getting the full salvo into the weak spot super easy. But that is a sniper you can hang back and take your time to line up, every other weapon type order feels bad to use.
If only it had gun damage...
Why does this look like an oil puddle in a parking lot
give me a fun legendary to go for NOW
I found a shield that moans at me like a brazzers star
>>540757413because its rainbow vomitalso that shit is pretty fucking strong, a level 30 carried me to level 45
>100 mimicron kills>1 legendary from him, the grenade>1 legendary from an add in his room, burtz beez>2 legendaries from his red chest, plasma coil and a repkit
>>540757841kaoson
>>540758309consolation prizes are a bunch of firmware so at least its not a total sink.
>picked vex>barely used her power all game
>>540758901lol same Went Harlow on second playthrough and I spam hers
just me or does the production value of TPS feel higher than 2?
>>540758529>30 more kills>orange >luty madlad
>>540758901opposite for me, using the big cat summon and it's fun when he summons two other ones, have three cats on the playing field
any good BL4 lore videos to recap the various echos and nyriad stuff?I picked up a bit of it but much of it I was distracted while fighting enemies
>pick up an Echo log>it's my character talking
>>540701186literally my experience, i coasted through the game and right as I get into the deeper section of the city suddenly everything is too hardy for me to kill (except sniping from a distance with jakobs sniper), i even switched my skill tree from some dumb fun random shit to a corrosive focused build with the reapers and it barely made a difference, got to the last part where they throw all these badasses at you and I ended up running past them to get to the fast travel station because I didn't want to save and quit and risk having to do that brutal city run again
>>540702534you realize they repeat action skill abilities constantly right? id like something new to but this is expected
>finish game>in post game even basic grunts are buffed>meanwhile I havent found a single good gun for the past 10 levelsAnd fuck those bugs with the inmunity cristals and their fucking AOE spam
you DO still have yours, right?
>>540704469i think they're slightly overtuned, you could buff every manufacturer type's damage and they would all become closer to the value of Jakobs if not equal, every time I find an Order or Torgue or Tediore or Vladoff with higher "dps" once I use it it almost never lives up
>>540704469Because of recoil in a game that doesn't need recoil
>>5407074012nd and 3rd I completely agree, the SDUs complaint not so much because I like earning things and its part of the RPG experience to build those up, outside the backpack size its not even a problem with the ammo
>>540709571I would say BL4 was superior if it weren't for the lack of iconic memorable levels like Lynchwood/Opportunity/Fridge. That and action skills are a bit weaker aswell. Still my 2nd favorite borderlands to play in totality and best in several ways
>>540765223DPS number is only calculated from the raw numbersIt doesn't consider DoT, missed shots, or, as you mentioned, ricochets
>>540765008vladof or tediore with exploding bullets for the splash damage to take care of them. wombo combo is a great legendary for taking out viles since it launches a rocket every other AR shot, convergence as well fucks them up. best to find a way to tackle them since the vile bounties are the fastest way to level and get easy legendaries fairly often.
>>540713182shame they had to make the one white male muscle head gay, if not for that I'd accept the one negris genius
>>540722038i was thinking about the gliding and swingshot platform gimmicks in this one and I came to the conclusion that I don't think they have much they can advance in the next game without dramatically altering core elements, 4 def felt new compared to 3 but I'd be surprised if they kept that momentum up without ruining it, still grapple hook is a hoot
>>540722810Zane was a definite highlight, his dialogue was probably better than any single character's dialogue in all of 3
Am I the only one who's killed myself more with those grenade-throw-on-reload weapons than enemies?
>>540767240Give us utility guns next, like one that lets us make swing points that we can use and will last for a few minutes, temporary shield walls, etc.
You guys werent kidding the dominion city is dogshitcan't even use the kino hoverbike
>>540738416>caring about a new Borderlands solely for the storyholy mega cringe, the point of Borderlands is the gameplay, the story hasnt been good since 2 and even that had massive flaws, literally imagine watching a youtube video for 3's story, lmao that'd be such a waste of your life
>>540743380let alone Borderlands fucking story
I have a lot of criticisms of BL4 but after playing for it awhile after finishing the campaign, I can tell this is easily going to be the BL I play the most
>>540769480Movement and gunplay feel really good, on par with 3. Now we just need the content to let us use it.
>>540732691Yeah, I like Rippers on weapons that I'd already be firing at full auto or close to it. I've got a Ripper Wombo that just chews through most everything. I think I'm gonna try and farm up a kinetic version for Vex and a Rad version for Harlowe. Already have a Cryo one.
>>540744369Probably at least one of the lines is locked. I noticed vex's teen with comes with 10% lifesteal on all of them but the other line switches between things like MS and DR
where the fuck is lilith for the UVH rank 2 wildcard quest. I did all the other UVH rank 1 challenges already
As disappointed as I was that seeing lower dominion was basically a ghetto even with excuses like how things are really bad or whatever it made a lot more sense when I got to upper dominion. The tower + upper dominion really felt like the promise being sold to everyone below
wut dis
>>540770391nvm I found the hag immediately after posting
>>540770404they always cuck us with cities, always giving us the slums, just wish we could get an actual city for once, but I understand that's not a good fit for the game
Too burned out to start a second character, I have all the guns farmed in the bank but gearing isn't the issue, that's the fun part of the game. It's just the menus are still fucked and being thrown on the beach again with literally nothing discovered without the story missions to carry the exploration like the first time.
>>540770524good all around shotgun that counts as all weapon types so. lets you complete challenges with it for all weapon types and can dip into buffs for all weapon types.
>>540771537dang bro I'm not even 50 yet
>>540772164Yeah I think everyone in my predicament just doesn't post here anymore and moved on to something else
Wonderlands 2 when?
pre-sequel 2 when?
>Grenades cook while held and explode after a set duration
what is the best ordnance type and why is it the Satchel Charge?
The drift on this thing is NUTS. Unusable
>>540773679destructo disc for status effect procing, waterfall/firepot/fuse for damage. i loved using the singularity knife when i was leveling harlowe with the red tree, throw the knife to pull all the enemies into a pile then shoot my nuke their way.
>>540773932wait until you try the Truck
>>540773932yeah thats a hipfire up the boss's gooch sniper
>>540773932this gun with Daedalus SMG parts is unstobbable
Just matchmade into a guy called 'the xp giver' who killed one boss and leveled me to 50 and gave me 200 specialist levels lol, gonna make a new character and see if I can find him again
>>540775768I wish that was me. These specializations are taking too long to level
Is loot shared in Borderlands 4? Like, if a legendary drops, can everyone see that specific legendary and pick it up or is it specific to me only?
Why did they give a freaking missile such cute, feminine voice?Should've turned her into an android and made her my wife
>>540775980Try matchmaking just for big encore runs, that's how I found him. There's apparently loads of hackers doing stuff like that. Back up your save file first though.
Are there any other manufacturer-focused builds like Tediore Rafa right now?
You guys banking all items with firmware like me?
>>540778451They aren't rare enough to justify doing that and you only need five of them per build, and a few extras to attach to fodder before you find your white whale item
>>540770608Opportunity. 2 wins again
Are the wild card status things set in stone? Like did they do "Healthy, Regenerative, Vampiric" on purpose?
>>540772164yeah sounds nuts to me. I'm 30 and I guarantee once I finish the main story and farm a bit I'll be starting a new character wayyy before I hit 50>>540772951I'm still shocked Wonderlands even exists, to introduce a fantasy spinoff to a shooter series practically released under everyone's noses and its full length packed full of original advancements like the spells and weapons was better than we deserved
>game runs like DOGSHIT in windowed fullscreen>runs good in fullscreen but It's like 30 seconds as it spazzes out when I try to alt tabvery annoying
is this the fastest borderlands to hit max level or is my memory skewed? I'm not there yet but everyone else seems to be and I remember it took me a long while to get there on the others, maaaybe thats because I played more than 1 character the whole time of 1 and 2
>>540779675The thing is none of the meta-progression carries over so it becomes very messy if you do half the side quests on Character 2 and the other half on Character 1. Same goes for collectibles, you want to stick to your first character where you had already collected a good chunk of them before restarting and picking them up all over again.
>>540780243it's honestly one of the shorter campaigns so yeah it probably is
>>540775768wheres the fun in the game if you're just gonna skip all the levels? big whoop now you can just farm legos and never progress your skill trees
>>540779821Works in my machine
>>540775982everyone gets their own loot, worst part is you don't even get the choice anymore, I play split screen and part of the fun was always divying up the loot and deciding who gets what and sometimes even flipping a coin or rock papers scissoring for an item but now we just get tons of shit each and maybe trade an item if the other player is a better fit
>>540780243Maybe it is the fastest but the repetitive open world activities make it feel longer than it is
Is the Sho-Kunai the grenade with the highest amount of charges? Going to try doing a gimmick Vex Eldritch Blast reset build
>>540780302that sounds like the majority of games especially RPGs I've ever played before, I wouldn't have expected any of that shit to carry over, only time that was different was badass ranks in Borderlands
>>540779675And then they shot Wonderlands in the foot with the most terrible post-launch content of any Borderlands game.
Does harlowe have a melee or melee-stacking build? I know the other 3 do so just curios
>>540780418i didn't really think that until someone else said it but this is the first Borderlands where I skipped a lot of the side quests in order to focus on the main quest because someone convinced me that was a good idea, if I had done the majority of the sidequests like I did in Borderlands 2 it would've felt pretty long
>>540781995if i remember that felt like robbery and deception. had me thinking they were gonna be proper length DLC campaigns and they were incredibly short, its why this time I wasn't so quick to buy the preorder dlc packs
>>540781258Yeah it's fine but I'm just explaining the reason you would want to stick to one and keep playing to 50, if you're 60% of the way through challenges at level 30 upon finishing the story it makes sense to stick it all the way through when there are rewards for finding all of them which apply to your new characters once obtaining them.
>>540782317Did it ever even get a New Game Plus?
>>540782142I felt pretty bad rushing the story, especially since I didn't really care for the ending, but i'm getting kind of a second wind just doing a bunch of side quests and getting collectibles.
>>540782589>apply to your new characters once obtaining themfair enough, i think im a bit ignorant to the systems, I heard there is some kind of badass ranks equivalent but I'm not too keen to most of that, i do very little research outside these threads
If you get a mod that adds +3 to a skill you don't have, do you get that skill?Or do you need at least 1 point invested to profit from the class mod +skills?
>>540784185you get that skillt. im getting stacks of a skill I dont have because my class mod gives it to me
>>540784185>got a legendary mod that gives me points in Trouble skills>I don't have Troublethanks Randy
>>540784185>>540784242btw I feel like a long standing theorycraft qualm i've had with build makers is that they often just tell you to get +X to skills you already have on your class mod, especially the important skills. Some skills I can understand pushing even harder but I feel like this is just generally wrong? You want as many points as you can get into skills you don't have but still benefit your build. Going from 0 pts to 1 pt in a passive is a usually a larger benefit for a build than going from 5 to 6, especially if these are passives that are further in the skill tree
>>540732125Are the repeating characters ok? Or is this a presequel bit where they are assholes?
>>540700972You are schizophrenic and imagining voices in your head, no one has ever said Vex was bad
Does a shotgun with pistol/sniper ammo mode fire a slug like the Hot Slugger?
>>540732125wait are we part of the lilith searching squad? I thought we were just vault hunters looking for the vault
>>540787938It was first impressions in the hours after the game launched. It was definitely a thing because I was arguing with people about it.
>>540773619This is the absolute shittiest grenade type by a mile, they should have just made it so cooking them in your hand makes them do more damage or something.
>okay I've done enough for now time to take a break>me 5 minutes after closing the game
>>540788105her bleed is super early in her green tree so if that's true then you were talking to like the only retard or two who believed that, unlucky
>>540788017We are but the Vaults (including the "main" vault that the Timekeeper is guarding) becomebasically just a bonus once we get entangled in the greater conflict
>>540788627I think people were complaining about the dog. I have no idea how good it is. I'm a reaperchad.
>>540782628No. Chaos Chambers and that's it
>white woman>pet dogyjk
levaine would've been a better design for a vault hunter than harlowe
>>540789620>>540789763Pretty sure it's a big cat. Second yeah it's underpowered but I think only minmax fags would really care and in general it's cool to have it lurking around helping out in doses
>>540790081100% and I don't even simp for her. She looks like she has some action skill waiting to be deployed. There should be levaine costumes for Harlowe it's a no brainer
>>540789620The cat tree is definitely Vex's "weakest" skill tree but there are builds to make it decent even in UVHM5, i'm sure
>>540789763It's a cat and she's some flavor of asian>>540790313Credit where it's due, the cat ult is the only one where just having it equipped gives you a passive bonus even when you're not hitting the button (a perpetual, roaming summon)
I just had her cleeeaned
Can you get the reward for the weekly mission more than once?
Has anyone else tried this gun yet? Its fucking insane for adds.
>>540792246why were the infoboxes for loot back then so much for insightful compared to what we have now? what in the honest FUCK is wrong with devs thinking I need to see less details
>>540792389they used to be more blatant with the WoW parallels
>>540792353it's good for shooting at bugs
I don't understand elemental affinityand I did try googling it, you try using google these days
>>540791124yes, you can target farm the item with better rolls
>>540784185in this game you definitely get the skill without having a base point, my question to those that know, was it like this in 3? I'm pretty sure it wasn't like in 2
>>540794601Yes, 3 was the same
>>540792353Best legendary pistol
>>540795497I love my seventh sense as well for bossing.
Starting to rethink melee vex now that I'm farming timekeeper and half the fight is my stabbing him in the nether region
who cloned Levaine
>>540798750Zane, he fumbled that one too
>>540798905GO ONLEAVELIKE ALL THE OTHER LEVAINES*sobbing*
i let quentin tarantino die fuck
>>540799512I damn near did. I had like 10 secs left when i saved his ass. It's surprising you can actually let him die, this series never did that before
BL4's UI feels like it was designed by someone who has never played a Borderlands game in their life. The menus are frustrating and slow. Why are my backpack and loadout on compeltely separate tabs? Why doesn't it automatically compare gear to what you have equipped? Why are item cards so basic and lacking info? Why don't Class Mods tell you the fucking names of the skills they boost? Most of the icons are either bullets or hearts. You see a class mod with 4 different colored hearts on it what the fuck even is that?
>>540800129Try sorting weapons by one of their stats, or sorting items by a different category then inspecting an item then backing out and see how broken it is
Playing through BL1 again- realized that they really hate putting side content in parallel with main content in later titles (ex. many side quests in 1 are in side areas that you can take detours to hit while doing the main quests)
>reward for collecting all 69 rainbow skins is a trans flag skin for every weapon
BL1 anally rapes 4
>>540801272forgot picture for proof
we sell em in pints round here
Alright I got level 50 and got a level 50 Hot Slugger but it's late and time for bed
BL1 honestly has this super grungy isolated mad max atmosphere that was dropped as early as BL2.
>>540788330Modern video game design is crazy. They hook differently than video games back then, almost like opening a bag of crisps.
>>540804348In Borderlands’ case the loop that keeps you playing would cost real money in other games, the fact that it doesn’t helps a lot
anyone have the mod to reduce dialogue in BL3
>>540804851https://bl-sdk.github.io/oak-mod-db
>>540801446Show the skin on your favourite weapon.
Can the shiny variants of Legendaries spawn before completing the game?
>Still no lewd art of Levaine
futa moxxy
>>540804469Sounds grim; can you elaborate on that? I'm not up to date with games.
>>540805124I was looking through the bank trying to find something that didn't look retarded even though they're my most used weapons, I just went with seventh sense>>540805207yes
Ngl, I really hate this "Vault Hunter = celebrity superhero" shit. BL1 and TPS had the right idea, VHs weren't heroes in those games; they were just mercs/treasure hunters. Hell, half of TPS' crew were straight up villains. Having everybody kiss your ass cause you're a self-proclaimed vault hunter is unbearably cringe.
why does borderlands 4 run like shit
>>540808927I think it's because Gearbox switched over to a lot of realtime lighting effects, meaning any gains they would've gotten over 3 were obliterated.
was any borderlands fan thinking "you know i appreciate how well this game runs but i wish i could sacrifice 75% of my FPS to make the lighting look slightly better"
>>540808709It feels like a lot of the NPCs don't like or trust you so I'm not entirely sure what you're on about. There are a couple of nameless quest givers that are like "WOAH A REAL-LIFE VAULT HUNTER?!?" but it's usually undercut by being totally unserious.
>>540808709bl4 is a bunch of nobodies and outlaws though, some of the echo logs are literally the cast terrorizing people
>Oh cool a legendary shotgun>low dps but it's got corrosive let's check it out>Proceed to be raped by order robots like never beforeCan they fucking tune up this kaleidoscope bullshit? I could use any green shotgun and be stronger and I'm specced into its element. If it's shitty to aim it should melt targets that do get hit
>>540809521>>540809908Sorry, I was mainly thinking about the previous games (2 and 3) when i made that post
>>540804190yes but theres a few areas in 2 that still kinda have that feeling but its pretty much completely gone by 3 except for maybe at the pandora start of the game
>>540811038I should say, yes, I do agree it can get pretty bad. 4 isn't great at this either but it doesn't feel egregious. I think BL1 does the best job at making the vault hunters seem like freaks hunting for fairy tales.
why new 30lvl character is playing much harder than uvh5 50 one?
>>540808927Upgrading between iterations of UE5 mid-development is irreversible, unstable and breaks things. Over those 5 years or so, they went from 5.0 to 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, etc. With a AAA game it would generally take 6+ months to perform an engine upgrade successfully when you're late into development, they did it carelessly and still pushed that shit out as a finished game.
>>540723237All major cities are shitholes so it was quite funny to me.
>>540730209They do not, because the only people that use latinx are faggots. There's already a nongendered way to refer to latinos and latinas, you just call them latin.
so im just now hearing you can do Carcadia before you do Terminus? sounds totally bizarre to do them in different order, espeially because you beat the bandit queen and then shortly after you use her space elevator to go to Lilith, the narrative just sounds off did anyone do it the other way?
>>540814056me and my friend did carcadia first and it kinda made more sense doing it that way since they introduce the need to go to elpis with terminus
>>540814453did it feel like Terminus was the more climactic later game level comparatively? Thats how I felt about Carcadia so it just seems odd picturing Carcadia being a lower level series of zones, this goes with the boss aswell though Terminus boss was like some crazy RPG monster
>>540815082I think doing Terminus second was a lot more climactic for sure, with the whole phase portals ripping open everywhere you kinda knew by the end of that part that the elevator was going to be the way up but I think doing it the other way would be pretty surprising too if im remembering the timeline of event correctly
Yabai get
>You can melee container to open it
the level scaling has made it really frustrating to progress now. I'm almost finished the story, but enemies are too high lvl (!) to kill easily. I am lvl 36 on plan z, is there a quick way to level up
>>540821086at no point on any UVHM difficulty is it difficult to kill mobs. bosses are the only thing that get a noticeable increase in difficulty and even then if your build isnt completely retarded that wont matter anyway.
bounce pass enhancement on the hot slugger is nutty
>>540799512>pull all the vents>yay I did it>...oh he died>you were supposed to kill 3 extra tubes that light up red, but they are already red in an environment lit by fire and the tint is barely noticeablethat was annoying
>>540801338For some reason this game has made me really want to replay BL1, which I've never really had a desire to do beforeI kinda wanna replay BL2 also. I've never really had the urge to replay them, this game has given me an itchI'm still enjoying this one though too
>>540820554Those enemies are meant to be higher level and difficult. Leveling up quickly will just scale them up further while leaving your gear behind. If anything you need to slow down and upgrade your gear.
>>540822021Honestly just seeing footage of the older games make me wanna play them. This series just has me in a damn chokehold
>>540822168It unlocked memories I didn't know I had of how satisfying the sniping was as Zer0
Finally using non bleed Vex builds and I have to keep reminding myself that other elements exist and to switch guns
What exactly is attunement. "While Vex is Attuned to Incendiary" what does that mean?Just using a weapon with Incendiary or what?
How/when do world events re-trigger? Do I need to be nearby or will they show up on the map or what?
>>540822802>go to bed next to world event so I know to do it the next time I play>wake up>it's goneme rn
>>540822409Yea just a fire gun
>>540822984>>540822409*just use a fire gun
>>540820903Complete all SDU upgrades as Vex
Is my save bugged?Im using a malliwan smg and getting assualt rifle kills apparentlyThere are no modifiers to say it's an assault rifle?
>>540824242Life uh finds a way
>>540799512>save him>he doesn't appear again anywayI regret saving his zesty ass.
>>540824502>fail to save him>save him in the wildcard missionNo one's ever really gone.
I was debating between Rafa and Vex early on based on their gameplay, I didn't know how Rafa was as a character. I assumed a Zer0 style edgy guyI just got an echo recording and heard him yap for the first timethank FUCK I went with Vex who's my goth gf
>>540825009After starting a Vex playthrough after my Rafa one, Vex is fucking lame
>>540825009>>540825616Rafa is shit anywaysVex is fun.
>pre-sequel is made by australian devs>make elpis space australia>every NPC is australian beyond existing characters and pickle (who is cockney)>every scav is australian and call you a wanker among other things>oxygen kits are called "oz kits"I think making the game feel "australian" actually improves it and makes it a unique experience
Managed to look up Levaine's skirt. She wears a white thong.
For a moment I could forget the deaths of all I've ever loved!
I miss driving the desert with a buggy car and a mate in the cannon seat.
>>540827925Borderlands 4 is too ambitious for that
>>540827925the map in 4 is easily the weakest part of the entire game. every zone is forgettable and boring. the entire map layout is fucking stupid as well.
>>540827663I hate this line. Also, why do some triggers have only have like 2-3 lines. Radio tower end lines, claptrap when you pick up a capsule, etc, they all keep repeating the same shit again and again. I'd rather they just not say anything at that point.
end game is absolutely abysmal. thought I could handle playing more when I get my second character to 50 and just stopped caring. Found two phosphene inside 6 hours which I thought would keep the endorphins pumping and keep me good for another couple days but everything is just boring as shit. having to do those gay ass wildcard missions again and again to progress UVHM levels is about the dumbest thing they could have done for that progression.
>>540829239you think they would learn after BL3 to add enough endgame at launch But that Randy hahha he is such a joker right hahahahah
So the time keeper built his own vault ... which contained lilith from the end of the universe... but why?
>>540826756I liked the pre-sequel more than 3, pity they went under. playing as 'jack' and a claptrap was great
>>540813696because you're on uvhm with shite gear with only 30 skill points?
>>540699093Is Shielded Teen Witch good? I've been playing Vex with summons so far but might chance build depending.
>>540830552he was an incel and it was the only way he could talk to a woman
>big encore>drops six shitty greens?
>>540822409Attunement is legit the element of the gun you are holding with kinetic attunement just holding a kinetic weapon.
>Good side quests >Okay main quests>Fun bosses >Good weapon gimmicksFell free to tell me why Borderlands 4 isn't the best Borderlands
>>540837006>Open worldIt's shit
>>540831130Paired with a super soldier shield you are really tanky, it let's me play like a tard and not go down.
>>540837107>Personal preference Though I can tell some contrarian would praise the big empty spaces of Pandora in the first 2 games
>>540837006I think the writing and characters are weaker than 2 but this is still the most fun I had with a borderland game ever
>>540837248>Copeyawn
>>540837412Obviously. 2 is cringe at the beginning but when it hits, it hits hard in the second act.
>>540830736all the vault hunters were great, i'd say nisha was the most "boring" because her action skill was just aimbotbut you got the perma pistol gunzerking as a passive though which made up for itthe dev's definitely knew what they were doing with the characters, timothy has a perk that does literally NOTHING but add extra voice lines and yet everyone still takes it
>>540837107>I want smaller areas filled with nothing but the same shitFuck off
I'm using Amon's augments that changes my thrown axes into swords, and sometimes I'll use all three of my charges when I use it, sometimes just one, and sometimes not even a full chargeDoes anybody know how that thing works?
any nerfs the past 48h?
tk's wave is surprisingly strong with the pellets bouncing around and hitting mobs and bosses multiple times. offset by the slow as fuck shell by shell reload but I've been able to melt 2/3 of a boss's health with the wave then switch to another gun to finish them off. its usually been lackluster in other games but here it was a pleasant surprise.
>>540790682>asian woman>pet catyjk
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>>540786987It heavily depends on the skill and character. The purple class mod I found for Harlowe approximately 20 minutes after I unlocked them carried me all the way to UVHM3 simply due to the fact that it had a +5 to her red skill that increases her action skill damage. The two other skills on it were inconsequential, and I even tested out drops that had the same three skills just with different allocations.
It happened!Is this weapon even good?
>>540859252>RipperQ
>>540859252It can be decent the dot on it can vary wildly with parts, but it not as OP as in old games.
>>540859252>Torgue-Licensed Sticky MagazineQ
>>540848712>Me chinese>Me so dumb>Me think cat meat so yum-yumhow did Randy get away with giving her dialogue like this?
>Borderlands with Path of Exile style leaguesinfinite money, Randy get on it
>>540863478>Borderlands with seasonal resets, new mechanics, and leaderboardsit makes too much sense for longevity so they won't do it
>>540861968>>540862046I mean, the skin unlocks for all future versions of the gun, right? I'm not too concerned about this specific one being good>>540862038A bit of a shame, but I'm betting elementalist Vex will be getting a buff in the next patch, so at least it has potential then
>>540863478I honestly expected them to try some kinda procedurally generated map system in wonderlands. How have they not figured it out yet.
>>540863879I've always wanted Borderlands to be a true Destiny-like competitor, but at the same time I don't want them to get into the same bind Bungie got into, where they can't keep up with the hunger and constant desire of the community for more content
>>540862038It really was OP only in the first gameit was a piss canon in 2, don't care about 3, and in 4 it's a brapper so who fucking cares (ok maybe some very specific rafa bullet buddy use case)
>>540864910I thought wonderlands maps were randomized
>>540864910Procgen maps were a thing in the prototype phase during the development of the first Borderlands game, but they canned the idea because the maps that were generated sucked.
>>540867448The actual maps aren't randomized at all, and random encounters are just a handful of tiny premade rooms.I never bothered with progressing through chaos chambers, but pretty sure it just uses random encounter maps.
>>540868605Well, let me correct myself. Tile-generated pseudo-random maps. Not procgen in a proper sense. Procgen is a different beast and only sort of slots in when you start talking about seed-based generation. So like Diablo or Warframe.
>>540868757But then again, most of that randomized tile-based stuff is done via seed generation. So I'm just going to shut the fuck up because I clearly don't know what I'm talking about in any authoritative way.Basically, they tried it early and decided it didn't work. Would it actually work? Dunno.
Is farming Foundry Freaks worth it? I mean in general for the total number of kills plus there being 3 bosses. Feels like a good way to roll for world drops.
>>540869171That or Pango Bango if you clear that efficiently, whichever is the smoothest farm
Rate my schizo idea>equip +30% damage specialisation based on full shield/health>equip low level protean cell so max health is higher>activate shield at 0 so it's always on>get both damage bonuses
>waiting for Amon buffs before I decide to go for UVHM5I guess that and the upcoming event that has to do with Halloween I think. I just want to do a forgedrone build and maybe I should look something up, but they are completely useless whatever I think up, man.
Thanks
When are the VH buffs
>>540876697>not being a ghost
>>540873178Would the not-roughrider from timekeeper work?
>>540878363Timekeeper's new shield?
>>540878686That's the one, does the shield need to be 0 for your idea to work or will not having a shield at all have the same effect?
>>540878875Nah it's because protean cell gives +40% shock damage in exchange for draining but if you turn it on when it's at 0 it just stays on with 0 shields
>>540873178The Best Defense is always active, without gimping yourself you can roll 10% chance to gain overshield on hit if you want a constant shield buffer, but even if you took shield damage, it would swap over to buffing damage based on your health.
>>540879051The Sisyphean shield kind of works with your idea, it's constantly breaking itself and you can keep it at 0 while still proccing the armor segment lost buffs.
I miss the Borderlands 3 hub
>>540830552Of the vaults on kairos that was the only one he didn't build, since that was his originally assigned vault to guard. Also they kind of mention vaults exists as a when in time whatever that means
lets assume zarpaderp blew up elpis in TPSI feel like somehow it would relate to what happens in BL4, preventing something
>>540883604Elpis blows up, Jack doesn't learn about The Warrior or get face-fucked by Lilith. If he survives, his time at Hyperion is plausibly over. No idea what happens with him. BL2 doesn't happen. The BL2 vault hunters and their dead predecessors never get called to Pandora barring something else happening. Pandora is likely hit with chunks of Elpis, plausibly shattering the mantle and causing it to become a molten hellscape for a decent period of time. So BL3 doesn't happen like it did. The Cult Of The Vault may still exist in some form and may move to act in some fashion, but any building long-term plans would need to be rerouted. No Elpis, no Elpis being teleported and breaching Kairos.
I am officially addicted to the movespeed from the Super Soldier shield. I no longer dread having to navigate DominionAlso holy shit, Noisy Cricket is absolutely goated at breaking Vile crystals
>>540885787Basically. Everyone on Elpis dies. Everyone on Pandora dies. The BL2 crew survives except for Salvador who dies because he's native to Pandora. Krieg never becomes Krieg because Jack never becomes Jack and also probably because they both also die.
Best shield for bossing?
>>540813724It's just UE5. There's tons of UE5 games that run like dogshit. The engine just sucks
So do kairos vaults just not need eridium to open?
>>540886284Depends if you're using single shot/full-auto weapons, if you're melee spec, action damage spec, etc.
Okay what is the Rafa endgame build to FUCK and RAPE the game. NO crit knives or other hacks, please.
>>540886641Yeah, I'm not arguing that but bad development practices makes a dogshit engine even worse than it could have been.
>>540887064okay yes, I will not fight you
>>540886923Peacebreaker of course. Go all in with ricochet weapons and the hot slugger knife not needed
How does trouble interact with crit skills? Like say I grab vorpal fang(10% trouble crit), Keen fiends(Minion damage 20% crit), Keen mind(15% Skill damage crit) and honed mind(5% action skill crit). First of all do all of these even affect him and second is the stacking additive like will I get 50% crit with the boy or do they stack differently?
>>540886923>FUCK and RAPE>no not like thismake up yo damn mind>>540886641I guess TXR is the exception to the rule but damn if they don't didn't make it run like butter, even on UE5
You know, I gotta give credit where credit is due, they did a bang-up job with all the bunkers/mines/etc. in this game. They're all visually distinct and interesting, and they each have completely unique bosses at the end who each have dedicated legendaries. No low effort or copy/paste in a single one. Good job Gearbox
>>540887967I'm enjoying everything about the game except the performance
If anyone has any cool ideas for levels or map areas, I'd love to hear them.
>>540887967The base game is great I just hope they give it some good BL2 dlc quality expansions
>>540880684I miss its memes
>>540863478>>540863879Personally i fucking hate seasonal resets and total skill rebalancing every 3 months, shittiest, most boring treadmill ever conceived
What exactly is the point of marking something for bank when I have to slowly, individually mark everythingIt's just quicker to just deposit it manually at the bank, it's literally less clicks overall>>540888040And the UI. The UI is atrocious
>>540889702Okay well how else would you make Borderlands basically self-sustaining? There'd still be a regular version of the game that's always the same, but with seasons there'd always be stuff to look forward to and come back for.
>>540873178>>540879146You can also just play Vex with the Teen Witch class mod and constantly have infinite overshield, thus always having full access to The Best Defense
>>540887581Crit damage is additive * 2, so 15% crit damage is 30%. Which skills affect Trouble is not a consistent answer, you have to test them individually yourself. Some blue minion skills that should obviously apply to Trouble just don't work.
>>540886284Unironically just "depends". For the most part any shield with the "Amp" substat/effect is free damage if you're just trying to DPSmax
bro don't tell me that there is no way to reveal all the fog on the map...
>>540890619save editor
>>540886135Super soldier shield with some kind of lifesteal with the ammo regen means you can use your single shot shotgun as a semiauto as long as you have the overshield. Makes using convergence as a mobbing weapon feel really good when you can charge up two or three shots then wait a second to let that ammo regen so you never need to reload.
what did torgue mean by this
>>540889926I'm fine with them just releasing all the DLC over the course of a year or two and just ceasing support entirely sans bug fixes. If i wanted a Live Service borderlands game then they would need to make a new game with a pseudo-MMO system like Destiny or Warframe or something (Destiny did a lot wrong, especially the seasonal shit, but its actual game infrastructure as a multiplayer game is fine), the one-and-done game formula they're using just fundamentally would not cut it if you wanted an "infinite" game.
>>540890707is there a way to show all the collectibles on the map?ATM I'm just using an interactive map.
>>540890063Yeah I figured as much, been testing out vex builds and ran into the same issue when testing the reapers where it didn't feel like they were benefiting from keen mind's crit chance. On a different note maybe it's just because I have the advantage of the build defining heavyweight + teen witch but I've been pleasantly surprised at how well melee vex works out. Even when I'm facing fliers I still feel like I have non-negligible damage thanks to the daggers and curse. I really hope I find the secret spice for amon and rafa melee to make them feel this good as well
>>540892796One thing I don't understand about games like this with collectibles is why they, at some point in the game, don't have an option to "show all locations of collectibles map." Everyone has internet and everyone who cares about collecting them will look them up so why not just cut the middleman?
>>540893737Forza sells a "keys to the map" for like $2.99 or some shit, unlocks all the hidden items around the map, they should've done the same, could've made a quick buck
>>540893737I vaguely remember some ubislop games used to have that but otherwise good question>>540893929Oh and Forza did that as well, right
>>540893929Ah, the Ubisoft method.
>>540892430SLUTTY CATGIRLS ARE AWESOME
>>540894429Tediore sucks though, who wants a gun whose entire gimmick is "it doesn't reload you throw it"
So is the identity of tediore weapons supposed to be that they're shitRafa in some mission says "so not everything Tediore makes is crap"
>>540894429not typing that out
>>540894576TZXT3-XJXCB-CXBJW-BTTJT-9SK6B
>>540894562The identity is that their stuff is cheap and/or expendable. And probably efficient, in a cost-saving sort of way
Why is there no different ADS for weapons with alternate fire modes like BL3 hadusing an underbarrel shotgun with a sniper rifle it still does the fully zoomed scope
Why does the bodysativa guy sound like Soldier 76
>>540892419Sniper rifles too. You don't even need to pace yourself, your natural cadence of firing and aiming is slower than the ammo regen so you literally never use any ammo or have to reload
Compiling shaders is BADASS
>Guns can spawn bladed but don't actually do extra melee damageAlright someone please tell me I'm missing something because I can't believe Gearbox would do this
>>540892796Save editors are supposed to have presets for this, I just tried the .exe version and the online version and both of them aren't working. Maybe the last update broke it, check the nexus comments on the save editors for a solution when it comes.
I'm trying to make Vex's cat skill tree work but I just can't. I know it's possible because I've seen people melting shit with it, but how? What am I missing?Is it critmaxxing or just taking everything that increases gun damage? The cat is useless and dies almost instantly without killing anything.I have Kindread Spirits with a movement speed buff which pairs well with the movement speed buffs you get from using shock weapons in the skill tree but what use is running extremely fast if you can't kill anything?
>>540895695
>>540892796https://aidenharwood.uk/bl4-save-editorThis works, just tested it again. Import your save and only click on Reveal Map and optionally Reveal All Locations.
>Find an Atlas enhancement>Have literally never seen an Atlas gun?
>>540897691That's because they don't exist
I'm pretty sure I'm going insane because I keep hearing split second audio like someone's about to start talking through comms
>>540897835known bug since last update. and yes it will cause insanity
>>540896848thanks man, will try it later tonight
>>540897835fucking knew I kept hearing something
>the schizos are supporting each other again
>>540897691Pay close attention to the wording
>>540885787yeah but elpis is the key to the great vaultthus it can never be opened, because it cant be opened its never used by tyreen to release the destroyerbecause the destroyer is never released, lilith doesnt need to teleport elpis awaybecause lilith never needs to teleport elpis away, this is where the events of BL4 come into playall that firehawk at the end of time stuff, perhaps it would never happen, and whatever the great war is, is preventedbut then why does the watcher help zarpedon at the start? because it needs the events of TPS to play out? (assuming it's omniscient and knows everything that will happen)but then why did it save athena? is she the key to something in the future and she needs to be alive?the watcher, elpis, lilith, athena, and now BL4 with the timekeeper stuffit's all connected.
>>540900165>it's all connectedDo you think these games have like a shared universe or something?
>>540900351well except new tales which can go die in a fire, yes, because the games themselves say they are
Considering how important Sirens are to the universe as a whole and how constrained by certain rules they are >there can only exist a certain amount of Sirens at a time in the universe>they must all be female>their powers are possibly of a specific nature and passed on like a mantle once the Siren diesThey sure did absolutely nothing with a man-made, male Siren except spawnkill himYou would think that'd be significant but nah I guess the shitty "great war" plotline is just that much more important
>you get the god roll on your build legendary>you're level 49
>>540902163>GAWD roll>at the beginning of a Borderlands games life
besides the crit knife what are some of your favorite ordnances? I really enjoy pulsing augment on grenades
OUGH YOU'RE TAKIN ALL ME MONEY
YOU'LL NEVER GET ME PLUCKY ARMS
Might be a dumb question, but if an enhancement says for "guns with Vladof-licensed parts", does that only include a gun with a Vladof attachment, or does it also include Vladof-produced guns as well?
>>540903726It does indeed include Vladof-produced guns as well
>>540903947Nice, thanks
>>540902783i like the singularity knife on red tree harlowe to pull all the mooks into a pile for the nuke. waterfall, firepot, destructodisc, and the uav are all decent grenades. triple launch rocket launchers can pump out some really quick damage against a group or vile or something you need to die, if they have shrapnel on the rockets it can usually guarantee any broken crystals will have the vile orb destroyed by it. miniguns are something i've been warming up to as well, a slower firing one can be single shot fired with good accuracy to just pop heads in a horde with guaranteed oneshots if you want to save ammo. i was sleeping on anything except nades but there are some good options with rolls on purples. bottled lightning is an interesting ordnance i want to try out if i could get a decent roll.
>>540713041100% of players are going to have her using the second-from-last row's heads aren't they
>>540712905Sorry paypig, we saved Harlowe's only good outfit and hair for the supreme legends complete edition + tip
>>540744359>goblin charactersNow there's an idea that'd never get past the censors. A shortstack planet.
>>540905818Wait. I haven't played 3. Did they do a midget planet in 3?
>Forgeskill damage>Forgeskill cooldown>Forgeskill spawnCan I get something affecting his normal fucking action skill? Holy shit that stupid forgeskill is always on cooldown and holding down F is annoying as shit
>>540905954Nope
>Fags will clear the game>Get all collectables>Do all activities>Grind to UVHM 5 >Then have the decency to say "Umm theres no end game"I fucking hate these retards so fucking much.
>>540905954there was the midgetville in the knoxx dlc in 1.
>>540714061that's not randy that's sam hyde
okay well I've been farming Origo with a Rafa apophis lance build
>>540910396Which augment and capstone are you using
>>540910560battery subscription and project raijou. I spam the shit out of the boss with tazers but I'd like to get an updated beam tosser, I had one at 36 that shredded but I haven't found another since
>>540908076Close the reddit tab, Randy. It'll be okay.
im in uvhm3 the loot still kind of sucks do the legendaries drop faster in 5 or is it just rng shit at the end of the day?
>>540911703supposedly the legendary drop rate is highest on easy
>>540911548do NOT go to r/battleporn
>>5409117035 is just the highest chance to roll manufacturer parts, allegedly. Haven't seen any solid testing other than my own farming.
>>540911548You know I am right retard. These fags just want to turn the game into a shitty destiny clone.
>>540912040You are right but you're dragging that shit in here when this is a quarantine from normgroid borderlands whining
>>540908076what is the point in getting to level 50 if there is nothing to do once you're there?
>>540912554I got to Lv50 just as I beat the timekeeper so everything was ready for me.Borderlands endgame has always been boss rushing. If you want destiny and dungeons and raids and dumb shit like that, go play destiny.
>>540912730This game has dungeons, do you dislike them or would the quality of the game improve if was just a side cave that lead directly to the boss respawn room?
Heres an idea. Realise you don't have to play one game 24/7 365 days a year.The games as a service fags have ruined gaming.
>>540912730way to not answer my question.you got to level 50 as you completed the game. So what was the point in getting to level 50? why wouldnt the gamer have you hit level 50 10+ hours sooner so you can actually make use of your abilities and enjoy being powerful for a short time? it's retarded game design if that's what you're saying this game should be.
>>540912947>>540913356Borderlands has always been about the climb, not about pretending to be an MMO with raids. Hitting level 50 is the capstone of your character build, it’s where the wild synergy of skill trees, gear perks, and action skills lock into place. That alone is satisfying because the game is designed around power fantasy and buildcrafting, not infinite treadmill grinds. Saying “there’s no reason to get to level 50” misses the point: the reason is to fully unlock the toybox the game gives you, to push your build into its final form and then test it against the hardest available content.Wanting Borderlands to morph into Destiny is a category error. Destiny is a live-service loot treadmill that survives by drip-feeding new content, while Borderlands is a complete, contained experience built around replayability and variety. Once you’re 50, the game doesn’t stop. You can reroll with another Vault Hunter, push your build in a different direction, or chase legendary loot at its strongest potential. The endgame isn’t “missing” it’s the builds themselves, random conditions, and the fact that every gun in your backpack feels different at full power. If you came expecting an MMO grind, sure, you’ll be disappointed. But if you wanted a tightly made looter-shooter with a real ending and replay value, getting to level 50 is the point.
>Tip Moxxi until she gives me a gun>Ripper
i finally got one
>>540913192I don't, but I live in the first world so I have so much time to play video games. Games need to be bigger, they need to have several years of support, and they need to develop faster. I paid 120 american dollars for this game. That's like one whole night of hanging out at the bar. Give me my moneys worth, you lazy fucks.
Do maliwan guns seem extremely underrepresented to anyone else
>>540887581I don't think your action skill directly interacts with anything that gives skill damage/crit. Skill Damage and Skill Crit apply to things that are usually "do x for y effect to deal z damage" that you get from the tree itself. Do note that it's not "deal +z% more damage," you want to look at things in your tree that have a flat damage number assigned to them. I believe skills that cause a damaging effect without saying how much damage they deal and that aren't percentage based work with it as well, but I'm unsure.I'll use red Harlowe as an example since I know her tree effects pretty well. Fissile launcher is one of the skills that gets buffed by the two stats in question. It states that it deals a flat amount of damage and gives the amount in question. I don't know if the projectiles spawned by Demon Core get buffed, as I haven't tested those out yet and it's hard to pick out that particular bit of damage during a fight. It's entirely possible someone will do the math and I'll be wrong, which I'm more than willing to admit, but this is what I've observed through the course of my playtime.
>>540910813That is the worst feeling. At 31 I had a vladof AR with jakobs parts and torgue stickies with a 45 mag. That shit carried me for damn near 9 levels and I've never found a replacement.
>>540914482i dont know about underrepresented, more-so that there's only like two fucking variants of the things and they all collectively suck ass. >fire this slow as shit orb that you have to fire 60 feet in front of a moving target to get anywhere close to hitting themor>fire this pretty fast projectile that does fuck all for damage and explodes after a set period of time. I like things dying when I shoot them, not 30 seconds later due to some bullshit element taking its sweet ass time to do its thing
>>540914154Entitled.
>>540914793i like the full auto incendiary ones for flesh enemies but they seem so fucking rare
>>540896082Haven't touched cat until 50 so might be a bit wrong but it seems okay enough at mobbing at UVHM5. Tested out a couple of variations but lack cat specific gear so this was with teen witch + action skill specs. Survivability isn't too hard to solve, the left tree's capstone helps a lot with that and with my gear I can keep him badass on a 5 sec c/d in between and it helps with some damage, you might need the damage immunity augment in some cases though. Damage is one I struggled on. Mixing green and going full crit kinetic is an option and with a crit knife I was able to melt bosses not super exciting but bleed vex is an answer to a lot of problems. Mixing blue(middle path) gave trouble some serious element agnostic punch without sacrificing vex's gun damage but bosses were way slower than I would have liked, and maybe right path would have been better. Double dipping in red tree doesn't feel like the best choice either. I did do a few attempts with self-destruct trouble, and it could be a damage solution too since it was surprisingly self-sufficient in keeping trouble on field 90% of the time using my gear so I'm curios how a cryo ordnance build plays out for someone with the right gear. But regardless trouble is great at keeping aggro off of vex, even without the taunt most enemies just naturally flock to him so maybe focusing on vex damage is the answerThat said I think trouble's biggest issue is he's fucking stupider than the reapers. Like the reapers he'll often get stuck fighting the wrong thing but unlike the reapers becasue of his ranged attack sometimes instead of doing the smart thing and rushing a target he'll just sit back and shoot tail spikes even if there's an object blocking his shots. Legitimately I think he performs worse against mobs both grounded and flying compared to the reapers
>>540914941Pathing is another issue. You can sometimes see it locked on a specific enemy and spend a bit trying to get to it, get stuck, and switch to a different enemy. Reapers float so their movement is far less restricted so they can chase guys down.
>farming Sludgemaw>TWO kickballers drop at once>one of them is Phosphene>god-roll penetrator knife drops a few kills laterIncoming car accident or some shit in my near future when the Djinn wants his blood payment
>>540896082>The cat is useless and dies almost instantly without killing anything.You answered your own question without realizing it. Violent Outburst, Grave Command, Mourning, Infernal Sum, Tail Whip in red tree. The single point in Blood Sacrifice (blue tree) enables a suicide bomb build. You gain a lot of gun damage just from the specialization tree. The Best Defense can be upkept with Sanguine Fiends as your main defensive skill. It also creates a balancing act when you have your action skill enabled since using Violent Outburst sacrifices 33% health, returning 20% per kill almost refunds the cost, so you can either blow him up three times and let him respawn 2 seconds later or try to maintain his health for a bit to get off some additional bursts. But there is no punishment if Trouble dies, he just respawns a couple seconds later if you get a single kill or if you boost your action skill cooldown reduction with Now With Caffeine in the spec tree to forcibly respawn him.
Got a feeling so complicated
Jesus fuck starting a new character is the actual worst. I was blasting on my first, decided to try and start a Rafa for my second, and immediately lost interest after trying to look for vile bounties, and having to defog the map.
>>540917024games making you rediscover the map on other characters is literal cancer
You fucking babies. Defogging a simple map is a pain for you. Go play candyland. That seems way more you speed, faggots
>>540917024I feel like they're going to address it in a patch. So I'm just grinding away at the main until the next patch, at least.
>>540918372>>540918651I can't think of a single game where this didn't get changed later. I don't know why devs keep doing it
holy turning lighting from very high to medium improved my FPS so much
>>540920486I'm guessing Lumen is part of the Lighting settings so bumping it down turns that off
How do you guys deal with your Splashzone when the gunpile starts looking like this and it gets hard to look at/pick up your drops?Do you start trying to lead Splashzone to die in a different area?Do you just sweep them all up to junk sell once it becomes a problem?Do you just preemptively clear every pile so it doesn't happen?
is Zane supposed to be irish or scottish
>>540920793escape > quit game > quit to main menu > continue game
this is problematic
>>540920793Either the 2nd or the 3rd option. Also this>>540921632
Are randy's golden key codes from 4 hours ago registering as expired for anyone else
>>540921770where bulge
>>540920793>looking like this and it gets hard to look at/pick up your drops?I ran hundreds of boss rush rifts in Stranger of Paradise, loot littering the floor does not phase me, nor my computer.
it's simplei fast travel to the underpassi loot the cliffside chestevery time
>>54092754870 hours in and I have yet to see a legendary drop from a red chest
>>540921770Gotta give Randy credit, Moxxi's tits are fantastic this time around.
>>540928054it's actually kinda crazy that we really are moving on from that 2010s SJW period. I wasn't even that big of an anti-SJW guy but it's starkly apparent now. You see some remnants but it wasn't nearly as forced as in the mid to late 2010s.
>>540921770
>>540921134Drunk
>>540921770>even bigger>slight sag to show their weight without going full fried egg>hefty bounce with each step>and she's constantly walking around the placeworth the weight
What are we expecting to get buffed anyway? I know vex's cat and rafa's blades are common pain points but what about amon and harlowe?
>>540929028Melee is bound to be locked into meme mechanics once again. In bl3 it was facepuncher, here it's groundbreaker and gun-damage-to-melee conversion from specialization. Buffing it would make builds that exploit those completely busted, so probably never ever. RIP my Amon dreams.
>>540930427Why doesn't BL4 have vehicle vs. vehicle combat or those choppers from BL2 that you could physically take down
>>540930739THE MOST AMBITIOUS BORDERLANDS EVER
>>540930739I'm ok with that, vehicle combat was always annoying and broke down further due to late game scaling
Whats a good stress test for builds in UVHM5? Already tested with timekeeper and the vault monsters but I never know what to do for more of a gauntlet of enemies type of thing the ripper drill sites are kinda short and the goredello barely counts as an arena.
>>540931109There aren't any yet, going to have to wait for them to add endgame content
So what exactly is melee rafa's plan B when he can't reach a target? Vex still has the reapers and can still apply curse with the thrown daggers, while Amon has the class mods that either give him gun damage from each alive forgedrone or let's him use shatterwaves instead(which also lets him double dip into ordnance). But what the hell is plan B for blades rafa when he fights flying or otherwise not safe to melee enemies?
>>540935202Flamethrower stickies I guess
Randy pls Vaultcard plsRandy pls pls
why is there a 2 minute countdown to pick your character when you start
>Want purple echo skin from twitch>It only drops from 2 official gearbox channels that stream once in a blue moonRAAAAAAANDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
>>540937380premium stream for premium skinpremium skin for premium gamers :)
How does the post-game work in BL4? Is it same as the rest? Restart the game on NG+ then NG++ and so on?
>>540937819>How does the post-game work in BL4?It doesn't, you just replay 5 story missions with cancer modifiers to max out difficulty and then farm the same bosses or something.There isn't even a proper arena.
>Uses unshiteal engine>Loses usb with porn to humilate company>Does more weird shit infront of cameras to himiliate his company even more>Shits on customers for asking to fixhis game>fires people with ease because company gets shit revenue from his clowningHow can a man be so heckin' badass like Randy Pitchford?Like, this is Chandler-sonichu level of autism, the board dosen't try to shut him up
I'm never getting that class mod, am I?
not gunna lie the lack of badass points from the challenges is sadI'd go out of my way to do them if I got thoseMaking an alt seems REALLY annoying in this game. That would at least provide motivationPretty great game otherwise but I want that itch to scratch.
Where are buffs, Randy-Borandy?
>>540939642They're trying to decide how much to buff bleeds
>>540916031I got two phosphenes within an hour from the same boss, one was a world drop the other was the gun I was trying to get and I got a "god roll" penetrator knife too. Found a third phosphene an hour after that.
>>540927984what? I've gotten at least 50-60 legendaries from red chests and I'm only at like 70-80 hours played or some shitdo you not boss farm?
>>540941573Constantly.
>>540941718To add to this. I get Legendaries from Moxxi-replay bosses pretty consistently and from vending machines as well. I've only seen 2 Legendaries drop from World Bosses (big bubble). 2 Legendaries from trash piles, one from an orange boom box, and one from one of those small white half-chest looking chests in the snow area. Never once from a red chest.
>you can filter items WITH firmware>but not items WITHOUT>meaning I can't easily hide items with firmware so I can sell everything else le sigh
Is saw clench the only good farming spot if you want a bunch of purple and below drops?
This thing is insane4 charges, instantly spawns a black hole on impact. Combined with Vex's fan knives I'm just chucking knives at everythingThen when the black hole ends it blows everything away at like 50000x physics power. Not "useful" but hilarious because every dead enemy rockets off the map
After finishing the story and rewatching some older bl3 and bl2 Joltzdude's content, I wanted to adress some stuff>performancewell it's pretty established now, bl4 runs like shit and you are pretty screwed if you have a monitor with more than 60hz>sidequeststhey just feel useless now. like a one and done sort of thing. they dont reward you with unique guns and since named enemies either dont respawn or dont have unique drops (didnt bother checking if they respawn since they dont have unique drops anyways) the only incentive to do them is to get EXP and to, well, actually see the sidestory. The thing is, this means that there is no incentive to actually do them on any future character unless you need the exp, but you could just farm some boss for that too.>level scalingthat's something I just dont understand. for example, while farming the splashzone he just stayed at level 7 while I farmed him for like 5 levels, but the loot he dropped was on my level. the world scales to your level but sometimes it doesnt? also, near the end of the game, I was never really underleveled even though I was skipping the sidequests. I enter the timekeeper's city, everything is fine, I'm on level with the enemies. I do the main missions until I get to the part where I have to get a thing to be able to enter the timekeeper's tower, and suddenly im like 3 or 4 levels below the enemies and some of them have the red skull next to them. I was on level the previous mission and for the entire game but suddenly a huge spike comes out of nowhere. So I do some sidequests to catch up, I farm 3 levels and I'm still like 3 levels below the enemies, at least I dont see the skulls now. I farmed one more level and was able to quickly kill the mobs even with 2 level disadvantage but it's just weird how it works>storyit's good, but compared to the established characters such as Moxxi and the previous VHs, the new npcs aren't memorable at all. The boss fights are cool though1/?
>>540946537>open worldthis is a big one. After rewatching Joltzdude's older stuff it hit me that bl4 doesn't really feel like borderlands anymore. this series has always been about travelling from point A to B while looting stuff and killing bosses but adding a huge empty open world makes it so you have to travel thousands of miles to get to point A, then walk to point B, and then either fast travel or drive for the next hundreds if not thousands of miles. Add to that the fact that there aren't named enemies worth farming in those locations and it feels like useless bloat. >VHssubjective, but I feel like they are boring. I loved the guys in 3 but the story is literally dogshit, I wish we could play as them in this game. the dlc guy seems cool, definitely will replay as him>farming gearluckily we dont have the broken bl3 drop rates but the legendaries themselves feel kinda weak for the most part. everyone is talking about how the purples are more important now than ever before but they achieved that by making a lot of the legendary stuff weak. there are some outliars obviously, but making them both hard to farm and not as strong as in previous games is too much I feel. In bl3, running with 4 legendary guns, a legendary shield and class mod wasn't the problem, the drop rates were. Also since you can only farm bosses to get the gear, it's hard to farm a certain thing due to there being at least 2 other dedicated drops. Especially the legendary mods, who the fuck thought that putting one per class AND 3 weapons on a boss with drop rates this abyssmal was a good thing? It means that there are 7 things that can drop from a boss, good luck farming a good mod! Not to mention the bug that makes the ones dropping for your class much rarer... lmaoI feel like people are praising this game only because of bl3. If bl3 never happened, and we were instead comparing it to 2, the opinion would be much worse
>>540946537Sidequests do have unique rewards though, the Electi sidequest line unlocks a farmable bossfight, the Vend of the Line quest has its own unique vending machine you get to pick out a free legendary from. The thing is that without looking it up, you have no way of knowing which sidequests are actually worth finishing and which ones just give you a shitty vehicle paint or something
>>540947289>everyone is talking about how the purples are more important now than ever before but they achieved that by making a lot of the legendary stuff weak.I'm not sure who is saying this but well-rolled legendaries are 1000% going to be your BiS on every vault hunter. The exception to this would be your shield and ordinance slots, which have some pretty amazing purples available if you get lucky (like the penetrator knife, obviously)
>>540947453I did very few sidequests, including Vend of the Line, but I'm certain that there are only a few of those in the game. >The thing is that without looking it up, you have no way of knowing which sidequests are actually worth finishingguess I should have written something like this, but that was also what I wanted to express. There are a few quests which do the things the older bl games did but you need to know which
>>540947615as your main weapon, yes, but not all 4 slots. You can even boot some joltzdude's or whoever else's video and they usually have 1 or 2 legendaries and the rest rare (as guns)
>>540947992at the moment my only purple is my third slot and that's specifically because it has a 4-shot taser, the actual gun isnt particularly great otherwise
Harlowe is going to be a really useful quest giver NPC next sequel, she was made for the role
>>540921770that strip club is pathetic though otherwise
>>540949563>doesn't even have a bankhow tf they expect people to withdraw their life savings to tip the strippers that actually love me for real
>>540946537>you are pretty screwed if you have a monitor with more than 60hzi have a 144hz monitor and this game has never dropped below 144 fps with frame gen off. if you have a graphics card that is at least two generations out of date from current gen you shouldn't expect supreme performance from AAA games.
>>540950641The game is stylistic, they could make it perform well for minimal visual costs (actually it might look better, the game looks like shit imo. too muddy), they just choose not too
>>540950641I have a 4070 super, are you playing on low?
>>540946537>I do the main missions until I get to the part where I have to get a thing to be able to enter the timekeeper's tower, and suddenly im like 3 or 4 levels below the enemies and some of them have the red skull next to them. I was on level the previous mission and for the entire game but suddenly a huge spike comes out of nowhere.Yeah, currently trying to slog myself through this. I don't know how they managed to fuck something as simple as that up, but it really feels like the average "we didn't playtest past the first 25% of the game" moment. The worst part is that it's never tells you that either, the mission might claim it's "Normal" difficulty whatever that even means, but that's literally it. So stupid
I am having funalso my old friend I haven't talked to in a while is on literally every single time I load up, in the morning, at night and lunchmust be doin something rightI could complain of course but overall bretty gud
>>540956179talk to him, now
>>540956338I would but I've reached out several times over the years and got the impression he didn't want to talk to me kek so if he wants to he will.
>>540955450what is this even supposed to be about?
>wildcard mission makes you fast travel around the map doing dialogueRAAAAAAAANDDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYY
Borderlands 3 guns >> Borderlands 4 guns The parts mechanic is the only good thing about 4's and you know I'm right
>>540957279Jakobs all the way.also bring back Sanctuary.also bring back 4-player cars.also bring back slots.also bring back the ultracringe humor.
Anyone has a glossary for enemy modifiers?Like what the fuck is 'deal with it' and 'tricky' supposed to do?
>>540959395>Like what the fuck is 'deal with it' and 'tricky' supposed to doit's supposed to make you stand up and scream "BADASS"
>>540959395>trickyidfk>deal with itcan only be damaged by crits
>>540959531half thank you
So about that buffs patch
>>540960986How about hou go fuck yourself and make it yourself?R.P.
>>540961369Randy-sama would never say that
Randy is like the loser kid who got rich
So I'm not crazy, and knives were waaaaay more common at earlier levels, right?
>>54094197175+ hours and ive had only 2 legendaries drop from a chest and i boss farm like a motherfucker
>>540928182I hardly think Moxxi being sexy is a sign that we've moved past the SJW period. Remember, it was in just the last installment of BL that we had a non-binary vault hunter.Moreover, it isn't just the case that "Moxxi is sexy". Moxxi is *defined* by sex; her whole shtick since BL1 is that she is a living, breathing innuendo and that she is the sexiest thing to ever sex in the universe.Can you imagine if they decide to tone down Moxxi of all people? The backlash would be immense for what that kind of change would represent. It's not that they're consciously moving away from SJW stuff, it's that they have figuratively written themselves into a corner with Moxxi since BL1 and cannot afford to renege on that.
>>540946537Sidequests are the best non-autistic way to level up, are fun, and some unlock new bosses to farm. What more do you want?
>>540966283make moxxi canonically a futa.
God, what is the fucking drop rate on hot sluggerit must be 1% or less or something, and the boss takes so damn long to kill too when you're obviously trying to farm for a better weapon
>>540967150Took me almost 30 runs for one, got 2 of that absolutely worthless minigun through it tooAt least you don't have o grind for specific parts
>>540967460Both times I've had to farm for one, it's taken me well over like 80 kills. Have like seventeen damn kaleidoscopes though
>>540968309Genuinely what's the deal with kaleidoscope? How I'm supposed to use it? Clearly I've been doing something wrong not to get any value out of it because there's no way they'd make such bad gun into a legendary
The wall running and wall bounce in borderlands 5 is going to be so fucking sick
i just hit uvh5 so I can start farming some legendaries riight guys? Anyways which rafa build is optimal for boss spamming I've been using ricochet turrets but this shock lance stuff has me interested in changing it up
>>540946537the only side quest I found interesting was the slaughterhouse one
Just remember, out there is some dickhead with a phosphane Hot Slugger
>>5409572793 had the best looking guns overall. So many of 4's guns are ugly as sin.
hi
>TZXT3-XJXCB-CXBJW-BTTJT-9SK6B>rafa skin>unlocked it as amonso its gone?
>>540974117Should be on your profile save if 4 works like 2.
Is rafa fun ive made every vh up to level 10 but i cant seem to choose
>>540975024I'm having fun
>>540975145i cant stand harlowes voice and character but she seems incredibly op
>>540975024I've played him for a few levels but just can't bear the dogshit spic design. I can't stand his accent and the typical "speak english but throw some spic phrases sometimes"
I heavily debated Rafa versus Vex when I got the game, not knowing anything about Rafa, his character or his voice, only rough gameplayThank GOD I did not go with him. His Echo logs were unbearable
>>540975626damn i didn't find it overly annoying i guessi'd give amon more of a a try but he seems to be super weak in comparison
this is one of the deadliest weapons in the entire game
>>540975983Ya missed out
>>540976367on cringe, maybe
>>540712709....Would.
>>540976417You'll understand one day, when you're older
>>540976574I've only grown more racist and impatient towards optimism as I've grown older, I doubt it
>>540970665vex should get buffed cause I play vex
Who's the shotgun and smg guy?
>>540977059That's the spirit
my game WAS mostly fine but now it's a stuttery mess, borderline unplayable, stutters for .5 seconds every 2-5 seconds, reeeee wtf
>>540977468turn off fog, turn off cel shading, embrace more fps
>>540977667Is there a way to do that? I have everything off in the settingsMy computer is literally an unreal workstation btw lmaoa lil old granted but still. 2090 and 3950x or something.
>>540977829[SystemSettings]r.EdgeDetection.Enabled=0r.Fog=0create engine.ini under
>>540977667Does Borderlands 4 use Nanite?
>>540978568Probably, it definitely uses lumen
>>540699093Did BL3 run like crap for peple or was it just me having a crappy pc?
>>540977893Thanks, I feel like it's not working though, I still see cell shading and fog. I put it in the wrong spot. IDK.
>>540978724I was part of the 1080ti gang, of course not
>>540978704I would love to see the wireframe on some of that foliage.
>>540977218
Tinfoil hat time but I absolutely think that the desire sensor is real. We've all seen people doing farms for class mods and not getting the class they are playing. I've been getting the same shit for firmware. I've been farming for a deadeye ordnance on vex and haven't gotten a single one in 150+ boss farms. I went on harlowe that I just got to 50 and put 3 different firmware on my gear, one level each of baker/god killer/lifeblood. All the common ones I've been seeing. After putting that firmware on I did 75 kills on Callis and didn't get a single firmware from any of those 3 firmware after putting them on my gear. But TONS of the others.
>>540976043I actually went with Amon and regretted it. His character is fine but the skill trees... just not my thing.
>>540978818gotta set read only on the file
>I'm counting on you Bruce!>Taste the might of Bruce!>Even after dead Bruce still got our back!Did some retard in the dev team named bruce really want me to feel something for this fucking robot dog?
>>540982187i think im just gonna wait until the patch drops and go from thereseems like harlowe is all into elementalvexs ult is kinda ehh, having to aim hexblast, i guess her minions trees are weak or bugged or something?rafa got nerfed i've read
>>540982875The Bruce is loose!
>>540982875It brought a smile to my face but yeah, they introduced him, killed him right after and then the VH is all emotional because of his death?
>the mission about the missile that listened to people and formed bonds with them but wanted to complete her lifes purpose of exploding>doesn't end with her flying into the town and blowing up all the people she grew to lovemaybe we need the cringe humor back
I am going to collect all 30 billion guns and no one can stop me
>>540982875Him getting completely stuck in some barricade made it even funnier. Had to relog.
>>540984620Not with that inventory management you ain't
I DONT KNOW WHICH VH TO PLAAAAAAY
>>540985149Vex, and choose the cat
>>540985149Strong? Vex.Sex? Vex.Any kind of build? Believe it or not, Vex.
>>540985149all them are are offputting garbage, wait for the dlc
>>540985406>>540985524 she cute yeah but you gotta aim with her shit and im a brainlet>>540985538i hated claptrap in tps i hated his randomness though
Who gets the best MTX
>>540985745>you gotta aim with her shitYou really don't. I'm leveling her with a bleedless green build with torgue guns and it's still far superior to anything I managed to do with amon.
Should I wait until level 50 to do the vaults? I'm UVH 4, but level 46. Will I fuck myself with level 46 items and I should do side quests or something?
tfw coating the battlefield in ice and I only really need to shoot anything when something with shields and ice resist shows upwas coating the field in fire explosions before but they kept killing me, but the ice dot doesnt touch me
>>540986706do them now for the glide upgrades, you can use the moxxi thingy to do them again I think
>>540985524>Any kind of build? Believe it or not, VexAnon isn't wrong. Vex can build for melee, gun, ordnance, action skill, minion, status effect, etc... with UVHM5 Viability
>>540984530That would have been more hilarious. It should have exploded on a shitter.
>>540977667wow looks awful, thanks!
finally get this roll but its on a jakobs which doesnt have the fastest cooldown but it also heals the least than even an 8 second vladof kit. at least it wasnt a 25 second cooldown repkit I guess
>>540990624do you?
>>540991018im retarded, was thinking about mfw since it's so commonly misused, my bad
>>540990151By 50 these things dont heal anything worth noting, not even on the longest cooldown ones (and who wants a heal on a half minute cooldown?). They might as well have just cut out the healing part and made them temp buff kits
>>540967150That shit drops for me all the time.
What the FUCK happened to Jakob's pistols? Shotguns feel insanely buffed and pistols got left so far behind. There's no reason to use one over an assault rifle of the same quality. Ass rifles used to have slow reload times to balance out the larger mag while pistols reloaded almost instantly. Now they have similar reload times and any pistol with damage worth a shit either has 4 rounds or a fucking CoV mag. Not to mention they have recoil, bloom, and spread that just compounds the tiny mag issue.
>Shoot for the moon! Even if you miss you'll something, something, STARS!tim is my favourite vh
>>540770524Is it bugged or do all Bods exclusively have Hyperion? Only seen like one CoV
>>540992301I dont think any weapon thats balanced by having a high rate of fire is any good in this game
>>540989515looks cleaner, runs better retard
The fact that the menus are still going to be broken for the next few weeks means they're totally incompetent or the situation is so dire that it actually requires several months of labor to resolve it. It should have been marked as the highest priority from the start, more than half the game is spent in menus.
>>540995197lol youd run the game in text only in telnet if you could, loser
>Maliwan, Tediore and Mass Market Appeal troops could've been enemies since they all want a different vault hunter>instead of we get like 3 enemy types that dont even change how they look based on the biomeGame may as well just been JUST Dominion City and the moon. Fucking boring ass spread of things to shoot
>>541000886THE MOST AMBITIOUS
>>541000886We didnt even get any fucking Eridians. The vaults just spawn in more order enemies. Lazy ass Randy
The order enemies are so fucking shit, well except for the wardens. The wardens are kinda cool.
We should have just had a spaceship hub and gone to different planets
>>541003523spaceship hub sucked last time, why would it be better now? or were you being ironic?
Should have had lovingly crafted zones with transitions between them.
Can this run on a 4080
>>541005751no, youre not enough of a premium gamer with that
>B-B-B-BUT TINY TINA'S ASSAILT ON DRAGON KEEP IS S TIER, IT HAS>10/10 LOOT>10/10 STORY>10/10 AESTHETICyeah well it has reddit humour that was funny a decade ago, and it doesn't have this bangerhttps://youtu.be/QHnJ9NmK3Pc?si=8mQhrjGNR7EVoQu2
>>541005751it runs in my 4070s
>>540966283Fl4k is a ROBOT, you numb nuts
>>541006078 glad they put it in BL4
>>541006136he is literally wearing a pride pin on his jacket
Why is there no option to use hardware lumen. It would actually improve performance
>>541005751It runs ok on my 4070ti so it'll run better for you than me
>>541006294You are a fool
>>541006294FL4K goes by they/them bigot
>>541006503and you're clearly blind to intention
>>541005751Just use Frame Generation, it's literally free FPS and the human brain can't detect input lag (not that there even is any when you use it in this)
It's actually kind of astounding how many bespoke dungeons and areas there are for world bosses and quests. Nice to see but it's kinda sad how much of it is underutilized. All the unique auger caves and order bases you're basically just rushing to the end for the boss.
>>541007570theyre kinda lame when they're just Farcry-esque checkmarks with no real purpose behind them in the world other than for you to clear. The entire game just feels like a working off a check list. I hate these kind of games
pickle will be the next dlc vault hunterrandy told me
>>541007739a lot of the quests and dungeons should've been smashed together
I turned myself into a Vault Hunter, Morty
>>541007950*mordy
>>541007570I hope they release a mode for extra modifiers and like UVHM10 or something so that all these bosses, some of them that actually look kinda cool, feel like actual threats. Lock pearls behind it or something
>>541008186increasing the difficulty is just going to make the bad weapons all that much worse and condense the useable ones down to an even smaller pool.
>>541008186I hope they release something like seasons in Diablo or PoE with resets and new mechanics giving you an actual reason to come back semi-regularly
should I get piss drunk and watch the movie?
Why does Vex need buffsthey should've shown amon
>>541008827because everyone wants Sex with Vex
>>541008827They're all getting buffed retard broThey showed Vex because despite their efforts to seem inclusive and appeal to DEI faggots they still know that hot girls is what will draw people to check the tweet and get interested in the game
>FPS counter won't stop flickering while I'm playing, in menus it's fineI don't get it
>>541008827is this game hard for other classes? I havent had a single difficult encounter as Rafa and its not like theres any real variety to what you fight
I really, really dislike how Borderlands handles levels and loot.
>>541009539what else do people play it for then
>Compiling shaders.....>91%>87%>92%>92%>92.5%
Why does it have to compile shaders again whenever I fast travel somewhere far away even though it already compiled them at the title screen
>>541008257as opposed to now? who is purposefully using gimped weapons?
>>541009696I like graphic cartoony gunplay. I like the visuals. But when it comes down to it, the gameplay loop fucking sucks. I'm playing 2's DLC. I'm on TVHM because UVHM can genuinely go fuck itself. You complete a DLC, and then ta-da. Loot room. But none of the loot feels good because of how the system works. I get a bunch of Lv50 loot. Not a single thing in the pile worth a damn. Can't do anything with it. Okay. I'm basically playing just to go through the missions, because none of the rewards do anything for it. I've already beat the game. So it's like... okay... Loot for loot's sake. Can't take any of it because full inventory. Basically glittering junk. So it isn't loot. It's fucking garbage.
>>541010036I did a Tediore only playthrough in BL2not everyone enjoys games in the same way
>>541010114Not everyone has crippling autism, fortunately
>>541010057I guess here's the real thing. If you have these big loot things, you need to have it in service to something, and it needs to actually serve something. It is the WoW problem on steroids, but Borderlands has neither the player interaction dynamics nor the benefit of actually interesting content. And guns as loot sucks. Guns basically do nothing for players in Borderlands. They are the most superfluous and meaningless fucking part of the game due to how pitchable they tend to be. The only guns that are notable are those which are blatantly, horribly OP. Everything else exists. Everything else is just there.
>>541010114how come Amara can be a hot black woman but Harlowe can't
>>541008257if you balance around the top end so that the top end feels fair, it's much easier to just buff the rest of the weapons to that level of power. As opposed to right now where players are so powerful that it just feels bad to nerf anything.
>>541010881no one is talking about nerfing anything, tard. the problem is that 99% of the garbage that drops is completely useless
>>541010057Question is how long are you wanting to play one character? In any farming game there comes a point where you just can't get anything better than what you already have, at best you'll find sidegrades. It would be unreasonable to criticize a game for not having infinite potential for farming.
>>541006865Spoken like a true fool
>>541011130Really, this ultimately gets down to an issue I have with a lot of games. Warframe, for example. Okay. You farm your ass off. Why? Well, at one point there was the thought that there would actually a war to fight. Something where your gear mattered and where your preparation would mean something. And then that came out and it was like, "Never fear, none of your preparation matters. Even babies can do this because we're not letting you actually do anything of note that validates your grinding. Your grinding was pointless and you're a fucking retard." And I was like, "Okay." That thing that I was looking forward to? The sword overhead of a great contest or a great battle? That is an amazing thing to drive people to want to succeed and prepare and help others to succeed and all that sort of stuff. The devs of that other game totally failed to capitalize on that because they didn't understand it, but it's very fucking important to have there be some grand reason why players want to play. There needs to be something that makes it all feel like it's all going towards something. Otherwise, outright state that nothing you do will ever matter. That you'd be better off buying lotto tickets than buying your game. Because that's the truth.I am ranting like a schizo now.
>Ripper World Boss spawns in the middle of Order enemies>Order and Rippers fight each other as well as me>The world boss wanders out of the circle>that makes him despawnfucking thanks Randy
>>541011642I just like feeling overpowered
I like when an enemy dives to dodge a homing grenade and it ends up hitting them in the ass 2-3 times
>>541011642Getting back to Borderlands, if there was something other than guns dropping as loot, and it served some resource purpose or preparatory purpose, even for going forward into different content, it'd be better. But there isn't. Guns. Only guns. Fucking guns.>>541011774Oh, feeling overpowered is great. But you know what I really want? I want to play with other players and shoot a god. I want to help other players to get stronger to make them more able to shoot a god with me. And not a lazy-ass superboss that just spams an AoE that fucks you up. Something with rhythm that demands finesse.
I get that tediore guns are cheap, but they shouldnt FEEL cheapI basically almost never use tediore guns because of this, they feel tackybandit guns are made from scrapmetal yet feel clunky and meaty
>>541012078we're not allowed to have an assault rifle that feels like an assault rifle. that would be toxic
>>541013075what about Vladof
>>541013970school shooters dont use AKs
>>541013075bro...your dahl?
>>540982875Fucking christ I went doing sidequest and now I have to bring bruce back to life so he can save the day once moreI cannot believe someone wrote this
wellspring
bread doko
C4$H aint got shit on my nigga timothy frbest dlc vault hunter they ever added, yes, better than krieg
ohhhOHOUHO LevaIne's gonna love thisor not, she's a hard woman to read
>>541013970Too much recoil
I got to the city is it almost over
wait, why am I buyin YOUR shite
>>5407006794 = 3 > 2 > 1I loved the fuck out of 3, not even trying to be a contrarian
>>541018976Yes but you're in for the worst of it before you're done
after finishing the game, I think carcadia and elpis were the only bits I really liked.
>>541020592okay wellspring
Gonna backup my save game so if I respec and it's a kusobuild I can unfuck it
Hello? New thread?Hurry up please
only NERDS make new threads
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