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Waifu Edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>540512465

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
Feast of Grimnir and patch 6.7.1 patch notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/feast-of-grimnir-double-xp-limited-time-event-out-now/111969

Darktide:
Bound by Duty - Free Update Out Now
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/bound-by-duty-free-update-out-now/112661

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3:
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Space (formerly Jump Ship) - Early Access 19 September 2025
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA
Daimon Blades - Early Access 3 September 2025


Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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should have let it die
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Daimon Blades is the 6th of Oct now.

Problem is my hype is dead after I seen how floaty the combat was and how annoying the ranged enemies look.
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(You) didn't get filtered by the fun and engaging new enemy, right, anon?
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>>540836657
Of course not! I'm having fun on my malice runs!
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>>540836564
What? You're not hyped for the release of a clunky game made by a clunky French team, the same people behind two other clunky games that are only known because of memes mocking their clunkiness? And on top of that, it's powered by Unreal Engine 5™, which of course is famous for not being clunky at all!
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>>540836657
Plasma gunner clowncars being able to instagib you is retarded, but it didn't filter me, no
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Havoc suck horse ass, you are not special
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>>540833052
Dude real talk, what language is your mother tongue if conjugating verbs in english is too hard for you? Even spics can do it no problem
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>bored
>decide to make an ogryn build around stagger
>it performs better than my regular build in havocs because every enemy aside from bosses gets literally permastunned
only issue is i do fuckall damage but thats irrelevant when you have almost 24/7 uptime on taunt and turn crushers and maulers into a joke
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What class should I play if I still let mommy trim the crust of my sammies?
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>>540838651
Show build.
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>>540836657
I got filtered by my own lack of interest.
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>>540838651
The branx pickaxe and slab shield can be built for stagger and still to high damage
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Does any anons here play Jump Space? It's little bare bones, but still might be fun with a proper crew
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Since when does weekly reset increase Havoc Assignment Rank?
I finished last week at 30 but now it's 32.
I thought it only increases by winning a mission
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>>540836657
I got filtered by server issues, can't kill those
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>>540836657
It's a shitty gamemode with shitty enemies with no insentive to play it.
Why waste my time playing that?
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Does KF1 have more tech moves than Darktide?
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>>>540830817
Nobody who talks this way has any friends.
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Did she give ChocoB’s balls back?
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>>540839161
Arbitrator probably. The dog trims the crust of your sammies if you build into it, and Forceful holds your hand when the baddie says something mean.
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>>540843336
Forceful is kind of mid honestly.
I wish EO was on the same side as BTL.
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>>540839161
You watch me play instead.
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>zealot was my least played class when it was peak
>Zealot is the shit duck of this update
>mfw I love zealot now

What is wrong with me?
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>>540843561
>I wish EO was on the same side as BTL.
Why does it matter? All 3 small nodes below abilities are mandatory anyway
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>>540843561
>Forceful is kind of mid honestly.
It's not, it's extremely good, but it depends on why you're using it.
Push cleave + Forceful cleave makes the horizontal spread shotgun essentially shoot fucking force sword beams and annihilate an entire corridor in a single shot.
Targets Acquired is also bugged or something, because it stacks indefinitely with itself, as long as you keep taking damage and then staggering something. Shotgun stun rounds count for this, as does standing in a fart cloud. You can have infinite attack speed and infinite cleave.
Will of the Lex has retarded amounts of toughness regen in addition to what you get near the top of the tree. It also lets you run lighter on the top nodes, if you somehow need points.
Adamant Will gives you stun immunity, which makes you uninterruptible in melee and lets you do objectives without worry, and your toughness regen tends to outpace chip damage.
Arbites Vigilant (with BTL) gives you an absolutely fuckhuge damage boost. I personally don't like running it because I want to keep my stacks, but I cannot deny its power.
>I wish EO was on the same side as BTL.
This is completely and utterly irrelevant beacuse the most point efficient skills are picrel, meaning that every build that wants to pretend to be good can immediately go into EO if it wants to.

EO is obviously also fucking amazing, but I think Forceful is about on par, even if it usually wants more investment.
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>>540843803
Zealot only got cucked for CDR and Shroudfield got its spine broken, but the class now has easier access to a lot of good shit, including damage nodes. It was an overall win for aurics, and an overall loss for havocs, but the loss wasn't quite as great as you might think, because every build can now bring stun grenades, which are amazing. Also you get really cheap 25% assist speed on the class that doesn't fucking die, as a pathing node for Beacon of Purity, which you are already taking by default unless you're a griefing retard.
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>>540844517
>shroudfield got it's spine broken right as I was going to do the horrifically slow penance grind for it
suffering
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>>540844664
It's probably still fine in auric, since it got a bunch of defensive/support stuff attached to it, but the days of chaining a fuckload of invis are over, between CDR being gutted, and the double attack exploit being fixed, so I have my doubts as to its viability in havoc.
That said, I've adhered to a pretty strict meta on my climb to 40 so I've only had 1-2 stealth zealots, who didn't really contribute much. Maybe they were just bad, but both were good players on other classes, so I'm a little skeptical.
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They added 21st hordes and mutated poxwalkers into the base game, but they made it so they just replace random enemies in regular hordes so you cant even tell. Incredible retards
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>>540844517
>Beacon of Purity, which you are already taking by default unless you're a griefing retard.
why do you have such a strong opinion on this? We don't have toxic puddles any more. None of the zealots I've played with for the past week had it and we did just fine.
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>>540844091
EO is for uber veteran and Forceful is for uber zealot
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>>540844517
Zealot had shit damage before the update and has shit damage after update
It has lost it's only niche of being a healslut. Only damage reduction remains, sure it can keep you alive but you barely contribute anything. I guess pushing poxies away from a psyker is something, but anyone can do it, you don't need a zealot for it
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>>540845391
>why do you have such a strong opinion on this? We don't have toxic puddles any more.
Corruption chip, bursters, and wounds.
To explain in the simplest way possible:
>psyker eats burster
>eats some 40% corruption
>eats another burster
>is now instantly dead because apparently the wound from downing to damage happens before the corruption is added
And this is only the most extreme case. Corruption chip will also happen to regular enemies. Sometimes you just eat poxwalker attacks. Sometimes you have no choice but to walk through burgle slime. Even without aids modifiers, there are still plenty of sources of corruption chip that Beacon of Purity almost completely invalidates. I consider this to be infinitely more useful than 15% TDR with a team that I cannot trust, and I only play with randos.
Benediction is likely at least as good in a properly coordinated team, but I don't have that luxury because I don't play premades.
>>540845608
>Zealot had shit damage before the update
Flamer was quite good before the update, but now armored enemies are a lot tougher, and flamer isn't great at damage against rotten armor.
>and has shit damage after update
I hear tac axe is extremely powerful, and while I haven't tried it, I immediately believe it, because zealot now has easy access to tons of damage, and I've seen arbitrators deal millions of damage with it.
>It has lost it's only niche of being a healslut. Only damage reduction remains, sure it can keep you alive but you barely contribute anything.
Have you even played zealot? Chorus is reliable stunlock, lets you push ranged enemies and stun those, AND gives piss toughness. Stun grenades are even more stunlock. Bottom left has a damage amp. Flamer has brittleness. Shield of Contempt is insane. Until Death enabling Providence is extremely powerful. I did find it to be the strongest in a support role, but there's more to it than just being a healslut.
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>zealot was made to be a melee support class
>this update confirm it
>time for a pure melee dps class

Hmmm I wonder what class coudl fill that role
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>>540846136
I too only play with randoms and can't remember the last time i had use for beacon.
Especially now since 99% of vets take field improvisation which cures corruption too.
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>>540846136
>Corruption chip
If you are taking so much chip damage it just means your block and dodge game is trash and you need to get better at it.
>bursters
Push them when close, shoot them they are far.
>and wounds
You only need the 1.
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>>540846394
It's a very subtle effect and you don't notice it unless you pay attention to it. Ensuring that your psyker or veteran aren't instantly at death's door just because they ate a burster is valuable.
>>540846493
>If you are taking so much chip damage
>you
Yes, Vova, you seem to be forgetting that it's a cooperative game and that soloing havoc isn't really a thing you can do without at least 20 courses of HRT. It doesn't matter whether I take corruption or not, my teammates certainly will.
And if you've never been in a situation where a burster is almost unavoidable, you don't play the game. It's a major reason to press chorus sometimes, just to prevent the corruption from an unavoidable burster. You can't just le push when there's a massive horde of armor choking you into a corner.
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>>540846724
sure but it's not griefing if someone doesn't take it
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>>540846298
>>time for a pure melee dps class
Ogryn.
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>>540846863
Ogryn is a tank/crow controller, sorry chud
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>>540846724
>words words words
We know you are a shitter and bad at the game. You don't need to spend a whole essay explaining it, retard.
You are bad at the game, learn to play it properly without crutches.
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>>540846858
I firmly consider it to be as important as vet's ammo aura, because it's an extremely powerful effect that is completely unique to the class. It only matters in havoc, of course. Auric teammates are unsalvageable retards a lot of the time, just take whatever aura you prefer there obviously.
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>>540815938
you were called a retard by a retard, simple as. the average trollhammer tard will launch their weapon into packs of pink rats. the only metric that actually matters in ratclick is how quickly specials die and when your team only has one person who can reliably shoot them then its going to get very bad very quickly.
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>>540846949
Ogryn has higher damage output in melee than arbites or zealot.
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>>540845391
you are griefing if you don't bring beacon and you know it in your heart, simple as
source: millennia of ancestral intuition
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>>540847039
>keeping teammates alive in havoc is a crutch
>needing teammates to win havoc is a crutch
Shouldn't you be complaining about how impossible havoc is or some other retarded drivel, since you clearly don't play it? Or that you aren't being accepted despite playing """meta builds""" from several patches ago without realizing that you're too stupid to catch up with the meta?
I accept your concession btw, don't reply to me.
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Mommy? are the havoc retards fighting eachothers again?
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>>540844946
in general the idea that enemy diversity (non-specials/elites) do anything in a game that has ~100 units on screen that die in 1-2 hits is phenomenally retarded
that time could have gone into a new weapon, mark, or special and been a million times more meaningful
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>>540844091
>will of the lex
>0.5% toughness per stack per second
>lose stack when damage is taken
>slower regen when you need it
I don't understand the philosophy behind this.
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>>540848717
If you play it correctly, you are at 9-10 stacks almost permanently, because you are constantly staggering the fuck out of everything. It's also common enough that you're at 20% toughness but just bumped up to 10 stacks.
Try actually playing it instead of massively overthinking with theorycrafting.
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>>540847194
>>540847041
all vets in havoc carry field imrov. I'd much rather have the tdr thank you very much. At least that one is relevant all the time.
We already have 3 solutions: medicae, medkit, and stims. I don't need a 4th way to purify.
>but what about beast of nurge?
irrelevant since vets carry 4 kraks and marked target. And if not we just melee it inside the bubble.
But I won't stop you from bringing beacon 24/7, it's your game.
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>>540848409
>>540844946
If it had been vt beastmen you would have noticed.
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>>540847383
no honey we're just talking
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IT'S OUT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wAjW3G72mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wAjW3G72mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wAjW3G72mo
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>>540846724
>soloing havoc isn't really a thing you can do without at least 20 courses of HRT
Unlocking double jump really helps.
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>>540848830
I am, admittedly, an exec order lexlet. My charge+arbites vigilant build is gathering dust, unused.
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>>540850390
>charge+arbites vigilant build
Again, AV is fucking awesome, but it's in no way necessary, and I don't always take it because I don't like losing stacks, as you described. I mostly play picrel in aurics, not taking AV, and thus not upgrading BTL, and using the points I save on QoL shit like basically infinite toughness, stun immunity and dog upgrades.
I wouldn't exactly consider this optimal performance wise, but it is optimally comfy, and about the easiest build I've played when it comes to solo carrying.
It's probably more optimal to pre-load your shotgun with a stun round, push, shoot stun into a horde's kneecaps, then BTL -> AV and almost instantly get your charges back while the enemies convulse, but I prefer my brain-off build.
Used to run upgraded BTL, but I kinda prefer dog bleed nowadays. Could obviously drop Rebreather and still run both, but it's just too comfy to have, and I hate micro managing points just for specific modifiers.
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>>540849081
they came with new specials idiot
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>>540849408
>Rearmament Update

What a fucking retarded name.
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>>540849408
I'll admit that this trailer looks really fun, I haven't seen much actual KF3 gameplay before, only memes shitting on its performance, but uhh
>300-500 concurrent players
>mostly negative reviews
>40 bucks for a dead game players hate
I think I'll pass.
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>>540849408
HAVING A BLAST
HAVING A BLAST
HAVING A BLAST
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>>540850968
Rebreather is the comfiest talent in the entire game. Not so sure about dog bleed though. It only got me a piddly amount of damage the last time I checked its performance.
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Havent been able to play the new patch, how are
>zealot rework
>ogryn p maul buff
>plasma scab
>new weps
?
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>>540851856
>It only got me a piddly amount of damage the last time I checked its performance.
The dog's damage is extremely deceptive for most tracking mods.
A portion of the dog's damage is companion damage, but another portion is YOUR melee damage for some reason. You can roughly double the tracked companion damage to get the actual damage it deals.
As for the bleed, it is also YOUR bleed, not tracked separately for the dog.
The best way of tracking the dog is through Power DI and opening the dropdowns, but again, a portion of its damage is your melee, and that's difficult to separate.
From my experience, the bleed talent more than doubles the dog's overall damage output, and usually sits at around 80~120k depending on enemy density and how much/little work your teammates do. If it's still "bugged" (who knows if it's intentional), the dog's bleed does double the amount of damage per stack that it's supposed to do, so you can prime a monstrosity with it, then fire Puncture rounds to really ramp up the DPS. I personally still prefer the shotgun with Forceful because it's incredibly strong.
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>>540851516
I had a blast for 2 weeks. It's not nearly as bad as people think it is.
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>>540852102
>>zealot rework
Mixed bag. Cooldown reduction got absolutely gutted, which indrectly nerfs stealth, which has also directly been nerfed by fixing the bug that let you attack multiple times per ability activation. Grenades are easily accessible now. Auras are more easily accessible. Damage talents are more easily accessible. The tree is a lot more open in general so you theoretically have more freedom, but optimal paths obviously still exist.
Or in short: You can run a good damage build with all the good talents and still take stun grenades, but were nerfed bigly in terms of chorus spam.
>>ogryn p maul buff
Seems great in theory, but is still a pillow stick when not using the active, and apparently it causes memory leaks?
>>plasma scab
Retarded bullshit enemy. The TL;DR is that it's a sniper with mauler stats, an elite (so it has no audio cue and spawns in groups of 4-6+), and doesn't have a visible indicator either. Oh and they shoot you through walls. And in havoc? You have no toughness grace period, so a group of 4 can round a corner and instagib you without any warning.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/596 is now a mandatory mod.
>>new weps
The new boltgun marks don't trigger Puncture bleed on their AOE so I consider them to be dogshit. But that's only in theory, because I haven't touched the things. Maybe there's some tech to them in practice, but lower ammo and lower damage is an instant pass from me.
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>>540852102
>zealot
dont play so cant comment
>pmaul
less boring but still meme and not powerful enough
>plasma scab
dont appear often enough to be too annoying in normal games but when they do someone usually gets instadowned because it takes 2 shots to down and they spawn in packs and are hard to spot especially in a horde
>weps
not good enough to warrant using but pretty fun to fuck around with
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>>540852102
>>zealot rework
quite good
>>ogryn p maul buff
noticeable improvement but no higher than B tier.
>>plasma scab
horrible. Needs fixing
>>new weps
mid to mid+
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>>540852761
>>540853018
appreciate the info, sad to hear pmaul still is shit. also weird they made the bolter variant both lower ammo and dmg, usually the logic is lower ammo = more dmg and vice versa.
i sleep until ogryn gets more weapons and they add a motherfucking 2h chain axe (and buff the chain weapons)
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>>540853550
>and buff the chain weapons
They have effectively been buffed because their special supposedly no longer magnetizes you to the target for an eternity, and I've heard good things about the eviscerator. Can't speak on exactly how big the changes are, haven't used any of them.
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>>540853781
oh they did? haven't been keeping up to date the past couple months. I'll prob hop on soon to fuck around.
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>>540853781
the special still sticks, but against soft targets you no longer have to wait until the end to get the big damage. Meaning it kills non armored targets faster.
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>>540852102
>>new weps
New bolter is pointless.
>less ammo in reserve than the original which got its ammo nerfed by 10 bullet this patch
>less ammo in magazine than original
>less damage than original
>takes longer to fire between shots
>also has no burst fire meaning the firing speed is even slower
>all of this for a slightly bigger explosion radius which only does about 60-100 damage

The new power falchions are good however. They basically just took the zealot greatsword and ported it over to vet.
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Only good thing about the new bolter is that you can shoot once in hipfire, rather than the two rounds burst of the original.
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>>540849408
>They know everyone will just play foster and reflect that in the trailer
LMAO, also oh wait people have to actually play the game too
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>*dabs on inquisissies in your path*
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>>540855327
When do we get guns like these?
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>>540855885
we already have it thoughever beit
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Y'all ready for the Spooktober event gauntlet?
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>>540836564
they used AI to finish their game and some voices
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What difficulty should I play the event at? Can almost never find players
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>>540856628
The use of abominable intelligence is proscribed by the Lex Imperialis.
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>>540856307
>Multi-Meltagun
>Heavy-Plasmagun
Nah, the Veteran don't even get access to Volleygun or Autocannon like the heretics in Darktide
>inb4 Recon Lasgun
Cope and inferior compared to the other weapons
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>>540858557
inquisissies get the sissyguns and be thankful for it
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>>540855885
when fatshark figures out how to make the cables attach to a backpack, and how to sell cosmetics for every part of this and have them interact
*looks at krieg's disconnected gas mask hose*
so, never
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>>540836564
>>540837030
Yeah that shit is probably DOA
>>540838361
Kek
>>540839161
Weird post
>>540846298
Made for Morrow
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>>540846298
>Sister of Battle (Female)
>Sissyster of Battle (Male)
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Oops almost forgot it's Sefoni's feeding time.
>Throws fish pellets into her tank
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>>540847168
because they aren't melee dps, genius. neither is ogryn..
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so what's the havoc meta looking like for pubbing
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>>540862089
deny anyone without true survivor
get launched off map by a barrel
leave game
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>>540849408
>>540855097
>they just copy pasted the class animations, so sharpshooter foster stands like a slut
hahahaha
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>>540862089
Very similar to the previous meta. In order of priority:
Psyker bubbles to deal with plasma gunners being horrendously overpowered. Same old build with flame staff.
Veteran with kraks to deal with rotten armor + healers modifier being almost impossible to deal with otherwise.
Some form of bodyguard/heavy control to hold retardedly tanky hordes in place, often two of them. Chorus zealot with stun grenades or LW mine arbitrator both work. Ogryn also works, and doubles for rumbler abuse. Could also sub in a smite psyker with either of the abilities.

The above is what I've commonly seen. You can also play without bubble if everyone is cautious, good about taking cover, and quick about taking out plasma, but it's harder, and you need higher overall DPS. If doing a riskier, high DPS strat, smoke grenades + psyker shriek might be the play, but that also warrants taking 2 veterans for a krak dispenser.
Zealot can in theory achieve extremely high DPS with either tac axe or relic blade, but I've had more success playing stun support and max revive speed to prevent bad situations from spiraling out of control. I doubt this will be necessary with a premade, but rando squads do go down with some frequency.
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>>540860225
Mister of Battle
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>>540863070
that's transphobic chud
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How does havoc progression work? Is it just based on highest level reached?
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>>540843561
>Forceful is kind of mid honestly
u wot m8

>>540852226
Dog bleed got nerfed again last update from 8 stacks to 6, so its damage is probably less than what it was when you last checked unless that was post-patch.
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>>540862725
thanks for the writeup, which role is the party finder most often needing, or what role have you had the most success pubbing in?
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>>540863448
>Dog bleed got nerfed again last update from 8 stacks to 6
I'm aware. It still contributes a lot of damage for cheap without requiring player input. Those 1-2 points cannot possibly give me more damage elsewhere in aurics with >>540850968 build.
I'm well aware that this isn't taking a lot of damage talents, but every time I check my damage numbers in Power DI, most of it comes from the stupid OP shotgun, and I have to make an active effort to run out of ammo, despite only fueling it with small ammo packs.
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>>540847168
Zealot has the lowest damage, period. Psyker has more melee damage, veteran has more melee damage. Why would anyone even compare ogryn to a zealot? That's bullying.
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>>540863716
>press F 2dash
>IT'S MA'AM
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>>540854469
>power falchions are good however
power falchions? more like underpowered falchions lmao
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More like power FAILchion!
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>>540863734
>which role is the party finder most often needing, or what role have you had the most success pubbing in?
I've been a zealot main since havoc came out, and played mostly that for every reset and climb from 30-40. I find that GOOD support zealots tend to be the most sought after, in part because they're the least played, and ego trip DPS zealots seem to be even less effective now than before (but that might just be people still adjusting to the meta, again, I'm not 100% convinced of this yet). Part of that is obviously an attitude and playstyle problem, because the current patch demands even more teamwork. Solo carrying is close to dead now.
Good psykers are also sought after, in part because it's not only difficult to play in requiring good positioning, but also requires that you follow a buddy system with your bodyguard and TRUST THEM. Which requires that your bodyguard is a good team player. Many aren't. Hence above, and below:
I find that arbitrator tends to be the least popular, and I feel the same. Many are too selfish and carried by their class being OP, while simultaneously not knowing how to contribute to the team. You're SUPPOSED TO either be a complete DPS monster taking every damage node with either the big zap stick or tacaxe, or play heavy control support/bodyguard with any combination of LW mines, shock shotgun, shield, dog, shock maul, etc. but many players don't seem to get that through their skulls, and would rather complain about being rejected or havoc being too hard before they would even consider changing their build.

I personally value good krak veterans the most, because they make a world of difference. The difference between a good and bad psyker is big damage and using shriek over bubble. The difference between a good and bad veteran is annihilating healers and bosses, or being constantly down 1-2 players. But zealot still seems to be the most sought after. I very, very rarely get rejected.
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Aight see you next week.
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>>540864686
are you the old martyr's purpose book zealot with the big build explainer image
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why can't i find any people doing the event
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>>540864945
Yes, but that's completely dead now unfortunately, and I don't think actual havoc 40 players want zealots that play the same way the old meta did. Most (actually winning) groups I've been in really wanted the combo of stun grenades, brittleness flamer, and max revive speed, even when I offered to switch to other classes.
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>>540865038
Sorry bro, we already finished that bullshit event lol. Better luck next time
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>>540862725
Two vets?! One is dead weight enough, but two?!
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>>540864549
lmao gottem
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>>540865280
so what do you think the build look like for zealot
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>>540863812
>It still contributes a lot of damage for cheap without requiring player input
true

>build
Not taking the flat damage talents isn't too bad, but losing the strength from AV does hurt. It was noticeable pre-patch in breakpoints, but some of those have definitely changed. Anyway I do run my Forceful dog build a little differently, but I don't end up taking much more flat damage (just the 10% from aura). I never found a need to run all the damage resistance nodes or take Canine Morale on top of all the other shit you always get, even in Havoc 40s last season.
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>all of the psykers I played havoc with since the patch have best or 2nd best boss damage
What the heck happened??
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>>540864686
Brevity is soul of wit, learn to use it.
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>>540867314
Read nigga read.
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>>540867314
>illiterate fag can't even structure a sentence properly but wants to seem smart
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>>540867617
Thank you Mr. Lindberg.
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>>540868085
--> >>540864259
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>>540867617
>Psyker
>Dueling Sword
I sleep
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>>540865782
I consider krak grenades mandatory for the healer modifier, otherwise you end up with psykers having to deal 5 million damage to progress. I consider smoke grenades to be a good replacement for bubble, allowing the psyker to run shriek. The bodyguard/control role has to pull double duty, but good veterans that know how to play melee are surprisingly high damage and relatively self sufficient. The le vet is bad meme is perpetuated by trolls and bad veteran players who can't click heads or don't know how the class is supposed to be played in havoc.
>>540866091
I'm not 100% sure yet, and I haven't played that many 40s as I haven't had the time. Grinding from 30-40 took a lot longer than usual, as it's harder and a lot of rusty returning players were dragging my games down.
My current builds are picrel. Left is shock maul III (pen dump, flak, maniacs, hammerblow, skullcrusher), right is tac axe VII (mob dump, carapace, flak, headtaker, brutal momentum). Both with flamer (dam dump, unyielding, infested, penetrating flame, fan the flames), 2 toughness curios, 1 stamina curio, all with CDR, gunner resist and revive speed.
I still have experimenting to do, and am not 100% confident that these builds are completely optimized yet. I haven't played tac axe much and am not completely comfortable with it yet either. I really like the shock maul, it's taken me to 40 without too much struggle, after finding a good squad.
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>>540867617
>10 seconds in
>compares himself to a black man
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>>540868587
why the would talents and why fan the flames over blaze away?
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>>540868712
He cooked so hard with that build he turned black
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>>540869540
>why the would talents
I assume you mean wounds.
Two reasons.
>plasma gunners
I've somewhat frequently run into plasma gunners dropping me into Until Death, and then not having a buffer for the next pack that then makes me eat an almost unavoidable down. This DOES have the context that I only had bubble psykers in half of my games, which is a lot riskier, but I think shriek is worth it. Especially on the shock maul build, I took primarily defensive choices, and +2 wounds for 2 points was an easy decision to make for a bit more safety. I would also sometimes suicidally res when a situation turns bad, abusing Until Death and max revive speed to pick up 2 players, then go down myself while throwing a stun grenade at my feet for a safe reset. This is obviously doable without wounds, but again, plasma gunners.
>comfort
I like having the safety of being allowed to go down. Usually if I die, the run is over, but I can't guarantee not going down.
If/when fatshark realizes that plasma gunners need serious nerfs/reworks, I'll definitely drop the wounds from the tac axe build. Maybe even the shock maul build, but that remains to be seen.
>why fan the flames over blaze away?
I didn't feel like I had enough suppression against plasma gunners hiding behind a horde, so I put it on, and it worked well enough. I have yet to do any science on how effective or necessary it is, so feel free to assume this is placebo. Try it yourself. See if you like it. Blaze away, everlasting flame, or overpressure are all good blessings.

Again, I'm not completely confident about either build yet, and it's likely to change in the coming weeks, depending on whether I even want to play havoc 40s with how retarded plasma gunners are. I encourage you to experiment, new zealot seems a lot more flexible.
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>>540867617
Does Mr E still make nightly visits to the Tanner household?
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>>540871320
yes
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Best blessings for power maul now that it's actually good?
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>>540872971
the surge one, it's not written but it actually create a double explosion so you just delete everything in the area every 15 seconds
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>>540873268
people shit all over fatshark's tooltips but most of the time people don't even fucking read it properly or put any effort into reading comprehension
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>>540873268
What else? Skullcrusher?
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>>540873893
shockwave is not explosion, you fuckign nigegr, and before the patch it didn't have this interaction.

Don't bother replyign to this we already know you're a fucking glue eater, please kill yourself.
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>>540874014
you might be too esl to know this but a shockwave is an innate part of an explosion, and so when you have an attack that does an explosion, and a blessing that says it makes it do quote, "an additional shockwave" then that means the explosion goes twice. It's written in plain english.
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>>540874441
Please learn to read Pajeet/Pablo or whatever shithole you're from. I really hope the coutnry you emigrated to you and your retarded family of inbred mongols doesn't allow you to vote
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American posting hours
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>>540860225
Good choice of image
>>540867314
You owned him here and struck a nerve whilst doing it
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What's the best Shockwave gun?
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>>540875228
the rumbler, obviously
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>>540875478
Should I have the Shockwave radius at 60%???
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>>540874004
yes i think Skullcrusher is pretty much mandatory on every weapon that has it

>>540874014
this is a very strong reaction to a very minor criticism. Are you okay sir?
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I play havok bubblepsyker because 1) other bubble psykers suck, and 2) i find it to be the best way to guide retarded teammates because they are attracted to the bubble like moth to a light.
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>>540875627
just tired of NEET retards here typing bullshit with their doritos/cum-coated fingers when they are hard stuck in havoc 30
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Give me slab shield with power maul.
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Do you guys go to therapy after each gameplay session? Darktide is too intense and I think it's what gave me migraines.
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>>540875895
how would you balance it so the regular maul+shield is still a good pick?
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>>540875978
after a havoc 40 clear I like to tighten up the tension on my chastity cage, just so I don't get a little too full of myself
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>>540873893
>>540874441
>Additional shockwave
>Explodes twice
These aren't the same thing, especially in game dev language. "Additional shockwave" could mean anything from exploding twice to creating a really shitty, small AOE stagger effect, and the player won't know until they playtest it to find out. If you're familiar with character building, you're familiar enough to know not to intuitively assume things, especially in Fatshark games. As far as tooltips go, this isn't the thing I'd bring out as a laudable example. Explicit tooltips with detailed numerical information where necessary should be the standard, not vague bullshit that still relies on experimentation to comprehend accurately.
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>>540875869
are the hard stuck auric players in the room with us now?
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>>540876290
There's a few of them, yes. And they won't leave.
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>>540876213
>it could do the thing it obviously does or it could do this other thing i just made up
you thought you cooked with this didn't you
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>>540876151
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>>540876068
I wouldn't bother trying. The shield stance special sucks and only insentivizes bad playstyles like toonkgryns. Invalidating it is better for the game
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>>540876479
maybe. He's still right thoughever
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>>540876290
Spend more time here and you'll notice a lot of retards with absolute dogshit takes on builds and perks
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>>540876479
Well go test the maul and post video results so we can see what it does.
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What do you guys think of the hogslopo Vostroyan First Born?
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>>540863343
>no response
everyone ITT is uprisinglet
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>>540876806
and i'm sure you think you're not one of them
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>>540876929
I only want to do havoc 1 day to get the skins. Might happen before dt 2
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>>540863343
I genuinely don't fully know because I'm been hanging around 37-40 for so long.
If I lose 3 attempts I go down one level.
If I win 1 attempt I go up one level.
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>>540876929
I have no idea, dude. Just like >>540877115
I never dropped below 30, and always made it to 40 in the same week as the reset.
It used to be that if you completed a higher level havoc than your current assignment, the weekly rollover would increase your rank, but they changed that at some point, and I don't know how it works now. I THINK you can't leech your way to 40 anymore and need to actually win consistently enough to hit 40 on your own assignment, since you only get +1 level from playing 40s when your own assignment is at 35 or whatever.
I did a quick search on Steam and I don't think there's a guide for this either.
Man h40 really is gatekept huh, lmao
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>>540876479
>thing that has happened before is a thing I made up
lol
lmao
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Just coming back after a long break, but how are my braced autoguns doing? Has time been kind to them? When I left, the Agripinaa was bae, along with a Rashad. Pic related, it may not be the best gun, but this was with me through thick and thin.
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>>540880952
>not a perfect 60 mobility
NGMI
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>>540880952
bro's from the dark ages
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>>540880952
they've been stealth nerfed
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>>540880952
The infantry autoguns are much better now so you don't need braced autoguns
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>>540881075
We took what we could get then.
>>540881104
The best ages.
>>540881104
Infantry lasgun still good? That was my backup.
>>540881256
Don't know how I feel about that, are the irons still dogshit?
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>>540881467
pay brunt's servitorussy 10k or so to roll a perfect gun.
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Will they remove the dogshit aim jumping before vermintide 3?
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>>540881840
>pay brunt 10k for 3 less mobility
Not autistic enough, plus i'm broke broke. Last thing I was trying to do I think is buy all the cosmetics that you could for gold, which I never finished.
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>>540875978
>>540876151
Demented posts
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>>540881467
infantry lasgun is giga powercrept but fine if you're doing damnation and auric and are good at hitting heads, but still powercrept af. Even the vigilant autoguns are better than it as of this patch
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>>540846298
>they add a SoB class
>no new faces, she's ugly as sin
You know it's gonna happen.
And considering SoBs have power armor, she's probably going to be even tougher than Arby, and he already feels like a better melee vet/zealot.
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>SoB in Darktide
Never
Cope
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>Arbites in MY Darktide? never! cope!

And yet here we are.
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Ultramarine neophyte class
Moebian steel red equipment tier which lets your weapons go to 100%/100%
Chaos Wast- i mean Warp Rifts
Daemonmen faction

take it or leave it
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>>540876479
>you know what it does now, so that invalidates the possibility that it could've worked differently with the same wording
sub-100 iq
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>>540885275
>>540884646
>>540885474
>>540886659
All true
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>>540881256
Alright, I got this from a mission and I gotta say after one mission with it, it's pretty nice. The Vraks is pretty nice, but do you have any experience with the other marks?
>>540883941
I just want a single shot gun to plink the anti-measles crowd on Tertium with.
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>>540885474
Arbites are common unlike SoB and Space Marines, lorelet
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Is darktide still unstable?
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>>540891925
stable as the stock market
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>>540891224
SoB are present on every shrine world and wouldn't you know it, there's one in the system.
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>>540892337
Atoma isn't that shrine world lol
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>>540890789
>I just want a single shot gun to plink the anti-measles crowd on Tertium with.
I'm not anyone in the post chain, but for point and click adventure guns, your options are:
>boltgun
The premier option. Disregard the explosive variants, just use the 2 round hipfire burst one, but avoid hipfiring. Between Surgical blessing, Puncture blessing, and veteran's aimed stamina cost/crit chance talent, it's the best head popper. Only use it against big targets, you have frags (in aurics) and melee for chaff.
You CAN boltgun bodyshot dregs and scabs for Melk assignments of course, but be aware that grenades also count for ranged kills.
>bolt pistol
Same deal as above, though you can replace puncture with the blast radius blessing if you're a grenade vet, and can consider the sprint blessing over Surgical. It's also one of the best ranged options for zealot in aurics.
>combat shotgun (the slug variant)
Accurate enough to pop heads on default mode, great against snipers with the special shell. Don't have much experience using it against armored targets, but I hear it's really good. Veteran's rending talent will help with armor. Not as amazing on zealot, but definitely great on arbitrator.
>arbitrator's rending shotgun
Thing's basically a sniper. Remember to use the special rounds as if they were just extra ammo, really stretch out those small ammo packs.
>revolver
It's a slightly worse bolt pistol, but with infinite rending. Your sniper/disabler annihilator. Works especially well on vet, but zealot also loves it.
>vigilant autogun
I haven't used them since the buff, but the brown (single shot) one was already FINE before the buffs. I assume it's still just a worse boltgun with more ammo, but it was never truly bad, just outclassed.
>vet plasma
Genuinely good gun, but ignore the secondary fire.
>helbore
Also a very good gun, though I don't use it much and forget which marks are good.
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>>540890789
If you want a reasonable mag and fast followups like the infantry las then the single-shot vigilant autogun is your best bet.
All the other options are slower, clunkier, or have tiny mags.
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>>540892582
>but with infinite rending.
infinite cleave* sorry, I got my terminology mixed up.
Basically, if you see a sniper or disabler, you can shoot through as dense a crowd as you would like, and still delete your target.
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>>540882352
Why is my mented de'd? Do you feel just fine after a havoc 40?
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>>540884646
It's strange that we haven't even gotten a nominal SoB or SM inclusion considering one or the other is in every other 40K title. I'm guessing it has more to do with FatShark's retardedly strict "design box" and less to do with GW than people assume.

The design box includes us being ugly rejects because reasons.
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i see Mr. E finally made a video about the infinite smite build i posted about the day of the update.
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>>540892582
Saved, thanks for writing all that out anon. I used the bolter in the past for dumping mags into walls of armor, but never sniped with it. Does it still jump with every pull? And I'll never use the Helbore with the terrible iron sights. I used to use it sometimes with the weapon part swapper mod, but I looked at it, and it looks like it's abandoned.
>>540892723
I'll give it a go, I just liked the ability to be anal about my ammo usage with the infrantry las.
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>>540893543
>And I'll never use the Helbore with the terrible iron sights
Latest patch gave all the hellbores better irons, they're still not great but it's definitely an improvement.
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>>540854469
It's really fun to join lower difficulties with new bolter on veteran and refuse to allow any of your teammates to get a single kill.
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The setting of Darktide is play the penal legion/lowest acolytes, isn't hard to understand.
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>>540875978
>>540893059
>Do you feel just fine after a havoc 40?
I returned to havoc 40 on patch day, after taking a break (from havoc specifically), and played most of the day.
The first day was very stressful, because current patch havoc is quite a lot harder than previous patch.
On the second day, I made an effort to really, really try my hardest.
After 2-3 hours I developed a stress induced headache.
After 4-5 hours, I had acclimated, and reached a flow state where I was perfectly confident and all of the stress went away.
That same evening, I reached havoc 40 on my own assignment, and honestly didn't feel all that taxed from 37-40. BUT a large part of that was owed to having a really awesome team that was perfectly cooperative and did everything right without having to be told. Had a really good squad, and am proud of everyone involved.

I used to be able to win havoc 40s without too much stress, but the current state of the game, and with plasma gunners being completely overpowered, makes the game a lot harder. I like a good challenge, but I wish plasma gunners were fair. If/when fatshark finally balances them, it'll definitely be very fun. I think the new armor and CDR changes are healthy for the game, and plasma gunners' toughness shred is fun, I just wish they weren't able to bullshit instagib you without warning, or requiring a mod that gives them a proper audio cue.
>what about aurics
I snooze my way through most aurics, though it does get a little hectic if I have to solo carry. I still consider it MOSTLY easier than havocs, but plasma gunners do get quite annoying at times, especially if I'm not playing arbitrator or psyker. Though it depends on what build I'm currently running on vet or ogryn. Zealot definitely suffers plasma.
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>>540893680
we understand it autismo, its just a shitty, unnecessarily limited idea

also, learn english
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>>540892576
lol
you actually thought you had a point here, which is crazy
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>>540893826
>wah wah but I want muh marines and sluts of battle
So play another game?
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>>540893719
>After 4-5 hours, I had acclimated, and reached a flow state where I was perfectly confident and all of the stress went away
I can't do this now.. my stress just keeps building up and my brain overheats and I need to cool off, or I get a headache. Btw I don't rage or anything
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>>540893981
or fatshark could stop having stupid self-limiting visions, either or
inquisition was pretty good and had a better live service model with seasons and everything, i might give it another run soon
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>>540893981
That's why I vote for starting as a sister repentia, starting with trash(not gonna look slutty anyway), with penances that give you some armor back at the end, or once you reach level 30, as though you redeemed yourself
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>>540893543
>I used the bolter in the past for dumping mags into walls of armor, but never sniped with it. Does it still jump with every pull?
It kicks like a mule, but with https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/430 mod, I haven't really had any issues sniping with it. IF you're vet, which I'm assuming you are since you're talking about sniping, you should 100% be using Deadshot, and because deadshot has a stamina cost, you should have one +3 stamina curio, and use Focus Target! with Target Down! as a stmaina engine. As such, you should be marking every special/elite you snipe. Even without modded optics (the weapon customization mod is memory leak cancer and the German stoner faggot is a complete loser who refuses to fix the feature creap) pinged targets are easy to snipe, though if you're open to modding, you might also want a custom crosshair mod to make your aimed shots more reliable. You can generally trust a modded crosshair more than your ironsights animation.
> And I'll never use the Helbore with the terrible iron sights.
Great news, that was updated to have better ironsights in the current patch. Again, I haven't used it, so I can't speak with authority, but apparently it's pretty good. And, again, if you use a crosshair mod to still display crosshairs while aiming, it's perfectly fine to fire on tagged targets.
>the weapon part swapper mod,
I advise you disable that, because it's memory leak hell and makes the game incredibly unstable.
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>>540894318
Yeah desu I didn't even mean playing as them, its just odd that they aren't included background NPCs or anything, considering we have contact with the shipmistress, several engineseers and work directly under a commissar at ttimes
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>>540894124
>or fatshark could stop having stupid self-limiting visions
You never heard of Necromunda and other seettings without Space Marines/Sisters of baltte solving the local conflicts? For every planet with a legion of space marines saving the day you have thousand worlds with loval enforcers, astra militarum, arbites and such doing the work
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>>540894327
Grabbed both, good looking out. I forgot about a crosshair mod, but I'll give the Helbore another go and see if it's better. As for the build, I'm not going to lie I just copy stuff from gameslantern. Making builds has never been fun for me, plinking the tertium nerds is, so I want to maximize my shooting time.
>memory leak hell
I didn't know that, but my experience with modding is anytime a mod author tells you their mod is abandoned, it's worth it to just skip it. Especially when a patch just came out.
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>>540894121
>my stress just keeps building up and my brain overheats and I need to cool off
No shame in that. Gaming can take a toll if you're no longer a teenager, and that's without accounting for whatever other stressors you might have in your daily life (work, family, etc.). I absolutely recommend taking breaks when you feel stressed out. I regularly play more calm, generally turn based games to cool off if/when I get stressed out and am feeling the mental strain, and my favorite go-to is Slay the Spire. If you have the opportunity to spend time with family or a pet or whatever, do that instead.
>I can't do this now.
I think this is mostly related to being comfortable with playing the game. Once you have dodging and sliding ingrained into your muscle memory, havoc becomes a lot easier. If you no longer need to think about reacting to bullshit enemy spawns (etc.), you can invest brain power into decision making. It's just a matter of routine. Playing more havoc naturally hardens you for being able to withstand the stress of doing so.
Also, it's perfectly fine to be stuck in the 20-30 range as long as you're not one of those entitled faggots constantly bitching about it. Try not to be too hard on yourself, but also try to analyze mistakes. It definitely helps to record your runs for private purposes to try and see where you fucked up, IF you can't take a step back and try to analyze objectively what caused you to fail. Try your best not to blame it on your teammates, and try your best to take responsibility. Yes, it'll 3/4 times be your teammates' fault, but STILL try to analyze how you could've adjusted your play to better enable your retards. Being retarded together tends to be more effective than being optimal alone. It's a co-op game.
Either way, don't worry too much, and remember that you're playing video games recreationally, which means FOR FUN.
If you're not having fun in havoc, stop playing havoc. There's no shame in it.
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>>540895073
Thanks for the tips and encouraging words
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>>540894789
we're literally agents of the Imperial Inquisition in a system with a Shrine World, anon
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>>540895375
Low lackeys fooder cannon of the Inquisition isn't special and you're also part of the penal legion (minus the arbiter), anon
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>>540895785
If you're larping as semi-literate to make people who share your opinion look stupid you're doing a great job.
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>>540895785
>fooder cannon
SAAAR !
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>>540867617
lol he's so silly
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>>540867617
>2:05
well that didn't take long
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>>540894983
>I just copy stuff from gameslantern.
Reminder to try those builds out, analyze what makes them good, and make your own adjustments.
Most gameslantern builds are kind of retarded, namely the arbitrator ones that take dog without dog upgrades, while still mysteriously being the most popular.
>picrel
Something like this should be a good starting point for point-and-click-adventure type builds that just pop heads. Pick you grenade of choice, and take other skills accordingly. This isn't set in stone. I believe you will be able to figure it out.
The most important choices are obviously Deadshot, Focus Target! -> Target Down! and making sure you bring 1 stamina curio. With boltgun, it can be worth considering swap- and reload-speed near the top of the tree, but even that isn't strictly necessary.
Also reminder that if you're struggling in melee for whatever reason, power sword (Cycler, Sunder) will delete just about everything (just deal with it being clunky, it's worth it), while combat knife lets you strategically reposition (GTFO) by sprinting while heavy attacking; also crit/bleed builds and push followthrough attacks are very powerful.

In general, I'd recommend you reverse engineer whatever builds other players have, to try and figure out something that works for (You). Try to find some comfortable medium between whatever is the meta, and what you enjoy, and best vibe with. If you find metaslaving fun, more power to you. If you want to be a contrarian, that's also fine, just be aware that you WILL have to make concessions to make your meme build work.
Don't be afraid to spend a lot of time in the psykhanium to try and figure out how to make a build work. And when straying far away from the meta, remember that Marksman's Focus (left keystone) is a thing on vet, and was already good before the current patch, and just got better in the current patch.
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>>540895924
>B-But we're agents of the Imperial Inquisition
Yeah, and sent to die like a retard with other strike teams of the penal legion 24/7
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>>540896152
He's a little goofball yeah >:3
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>>540896543
shut up tanner
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>>540896579
You didn't say Tranner! Secret lover? omg omg
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>>540896727
shut up!
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>>540894318
>That's why I vote for starting as a sister repentia, starting with trash(not gonna look slutty anyway), with penances that give you some armor back at the end, or once you reach level 30, as though you redeemed yourself
Yeah, I think it's possible unlike the regular Sister of Battle but maybe Fatshark make a skin like Enforcer
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>>540896774
Anon and Tranner, sitting in a tree,
K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
First comes love, then comes marriage,
Then comes baby in the baby carriage
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>>540897147
you are so cringe shut up already
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>>540897147
Why darksissies are like this?
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>>540897147
>>540897198
Guys stop fighting
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>>540897198
What you gonna do? call your BOYFRIEND? lol
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Power Falchion seems pretty good. Wouldn't be surprised if it outshines the Relic Blade now (at least outside of Martyr builds), but I've yet to play around with Zealot too much.
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>>540897425
seems like a piece of shit compared to the relic to me
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Cadia?
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>>540897741
YOU LATE
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>>540897425
I was personally very disappointed with the falchion, both while leveling it up, and while using it maxed, because it didn't seem like an amazing can opener to me. Really good vs hordes, but who gives a fuck about hordes? Even dueling sword deals with them well /enough/ to be relevant, and you can always spare a blessing slot for strength.
My first and second impressions of it were that it's just a worse power sword, which I still consider to be the best veteran melee bar none. Yes, it's no dueling sword, but god fucking DAMN if it doesn't utterly annihilate mixed hordes, especially with carapace/infested + flak/infested.

Granted, I haven't used the falchion enough to be 100% confident about how good or bad it is, and I haven't tried a dedicated melee meme vet build, so feel free to correct me, but as a horde killing weapon on something that isn't psyker, I don't see the point, and definitely don't agree that it's better than relic blade.
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any rat news' ?
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why is there a swede itt arguing against sisters of battle
go back to your third annual six month vacation
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>>540896420
did you even play the campaign
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This rat asked for news.
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COMPLETE
RAT
EXTINCTION

Darktide has won.
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>>540898241
That's untrue.
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>>540897542
>>540897850
Actually, I can see it. I was running a kind of retarded, thrown-together build because I just wanted to mess around with the falchion and mag dump on the IAG. Pic related. Even with nuCrushers, it kills them with like 1800 DPS in this build. I can see it not being nearly as nice without all the melee bonuses
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>>540898495
>Even with nuCrushers, it kills them with like 1800 DPS in this build.
Interesting? Maybe I dismissed the flachion too quickly, but on the other hand, power sword just fucks them up regardless, and that's without any melee investment. And I'm a much bigger fan of ranged focused veterans, because why else even play the class?
I also kind hate that picrel doesn't take a keystone. I personally find it hard to justify not taking a keystone on the new skill tree, but I will admit to not having played enough nu!veteran, or theorycrafted builds, to be 100% confident with it.
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>>540897774
Kept You Waiting, Huh?
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SoB are way to similar to female zealots, there is no point in them thematically. They can make an
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>>540898946
Yeah Power Sword fucks. I just hate having to enable it all the time.
>And I'm a much bigger fan of ranged focused veterans, because why else even play the class?
Just 'cause some shit's unique to Vet. I find melee way more fun overall in this

>keystone
Meh
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>>540899315
>I just hate having to enable it all the time.
If you're open to mods, Skitarius mod lets you force special activation (it's a little clunky and not 100% reliable, but also a lot more comfy to play)
It has a bunch of other really nice features, but if you care about nothing else, forcing specials on power sword is extremely nice.
Even if you don't want to use mods, I HIGHLY advise you get used to it anyway if you at all care about optimizing, because power sword is fucking incredible. Otherwise, just use uncanny + bleed knife.
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>>540897425
LOL
It's not even better than the rashad combat axe
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does forever winter still run like ass?
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>>540897920
This
>>540898125
Deserved
>>540898241
This
>>540899252
… an?
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>Meanwhile in space marine 2 the next big update will be another brand new PvE map
>Off-planet mission to salvage materials from a space with new enemies and boss
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>>540901192
Is the combat still braindead garbage?
Yeah, that's what i thought?
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>>540901192
space hulk*
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>>540901192
ah, a shame the gameplay sucks donkey dick
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>>540901192
Game is still ass to play. Shame. It deserved better. And so did we.
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>>540901371
its a shame space hulk is trash.
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I don't understand why people even entertain the idea of Sororitas being added to Darktide. We all know it has zero chance of happening. Is it genuine delusion or just trolling?
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>>540902483
Mentally ill trannies obsess about them
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>>540898946
>>540899528
Sorry. Was trying to reply while playing SM2 with a friend. As far as keystones go, none of them were that amazing for what I was doing. The new Marksman's Focus or Focus Target would've been good, but there was nothing I wanted to give up for MF, and I only bother with tagging keystone when I run the Bolter. I mostly just wanted to mess with the Falchion.
> Skitarius mod lets you force special activation
I've seen it. Just not a fan of the mod. I have something already to let me spam attacks on fast weapons, and that's all I wanted after my mouse macros broke in Darktide. I'm sure as fuck not gonna mod my way around weapon combos. That just sounds like a light version of cheating.
>knife
No, the knife is fucking gay.

>>540900207
Most things aren't, and neither is the Relic Blade. What a weird weapon to compare things lel
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>>540902483
Like another anon said in the previous thread, gacha brainrot, chronic masturbators can't connect with their media and enjoy unless there's something to coom to.
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>>540902981
bolter or semi-auto headhunter*
My plasma build might've run it, but I don't run plasma hardly ever, so I can't say
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There is a real chance that the power axes will be weaker than the rashad axes

Let that sink i n
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I don't like the rashad axe because it sounds indian.
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I don't like the heat mechanic at all
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>>540903708
Fuck off he's not getting in
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>>540902483
It's not 0 at all, just probably not the next one, so not in the next 5 years...
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>>540903708
and we'll see it in 2030, so it's not worth thinking about
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Rachid Axe
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Is Darktide good yet?
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rasheed axe
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ranjeet axe
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>>540904559
Always was
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>>540904272
Me neither, but I still like the weapons
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>>540904502
>>540904736
>>540904909
yeah man
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>>540903708
>>540903828
>>540904352
It’s cool we can trust him
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I am playing havoc 40 and it feels like the boltgun and plasma gun barely keep up anymore. With the blue and green stims and rotten armor everything is a bullet sponge now.
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>>540907440
Bro using ranged on armored enemies
Bring an ogryn
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>>540903851
>>540904502
>>540904736
>>540904909
Unironically true
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it would probably be better for the health of the game and the ~*ludonarrative*~ experience if weapon types were partially tied to progression and power weapons were just better
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>>540907601
What are you talking about, practically everything is armored in carapace now.
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Plasma Gunners were so unfinished that they aren't even in the Meat Grinder.
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>>540908151
no, sorry. a stub revolver needs to do more damage than a bolter round. if they really wanted to increase the ludos they would just make higher level guns look better.
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>>540908278
What don't you understand?
Using ranged weapons on anything above flak is a waste of ammo
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>>540908423
Pox bursters have been in the game for 3 years and they are still not in the meat grinder

Let that sink in
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>>540908524
nta but how do I deal with carp ragers then?
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>>540902483
>>540902581
>>540902998
lmao this anti-coomer stuff always reeks of asscrack and unwashed pits
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>>540909408
I bring an ogryn
Otherwise try to hit them in the head and using crowd control
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>>540909502
Because tranny coomers are all famously clean and fragrant

Let's be real here. The only grooming you "people" do is on discord
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>>540909408
>>540909614
Ogryn or arbites
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>>540909614
>>540909983
What if I don't have a pocket ogryn or pocket arbites? Can't I just shootem real bad and make them dance
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>>540909502
trvke
everyone likes hot stuff
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>>540912810
If you have the ammo for it then fine
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Sienna's mace might be the worst melee weapon in all of Vermintide. Holy fuck.
>slow as shit
>way worse at horde clearing than you'd think. Especially considering just how slow it is.
>mediocre vs single target
>overly complicated situational combos, including push attack faggotry.
>low guard
Is there anything redeemable about it? You'd think since it was a mace it do good vs armor, but I didn't notice anything special there.
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>>540913693
Are you retarded?
Intelligent, non-trans people who want hot stuff still realize that SoBs aren't happening
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>>540914104
Kerillian's 1 handed axe exists.
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>>540914104
there's bunch of shitty 0 cleave weapons and dis nigga chose mace as the worst
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>>540914891
>>540914454
Thank G-d that darktide (the superior game) had brutal momentum
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>launch darkturd
>let it load
>hit space
>now it can finish loading
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>>540915405
yeah darktide is superior everything is op and everything has infinite cleave i love easy games
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>>540915593
Vermintide doesn't need strong weapons or classes bscause the game is braindead easy
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>>540915687
>>>540915593(You)#
>Vermintide doesn't need strong weapons or classes bscause the game is braindead easy
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>>540914454
>>540914891
Something else I forgot to mention is like your main DPS combo whiffs the headshot no matter how hard you try to land it. So awful.
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>>540884646
We really need some Cherubim special ability honestly
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>>540914104
>the worst melee weapon in all of Vermintide
Yeah, it's pretty atrocious in literally every aspect and has been since day one; I'm not sure why exactly Fatshark has been so averse to making it even middling for the game's entire lifespan.
>>540914454
>Kerillian's 1 handed axe
Nowhere near as bad as Sienna's mace. The only reason that you might think it's comparable is that Kerillian's weapon list is so bloated with excellent--some might say overpowered--options that something mediocre like the 1h axe looks worse than it actually is. Kind of like the inverse of a 5/10 girl surrounding herself with morbidly obese friends to make herself appear better when standing next to them.
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>>540914150
i didn’t say anything about that. learn to read.
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>>540915421
You made this post before. Time for new material.
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MIster E is streaming right now guys!
Come watch high quality gameplay
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>>540916012
what the fuck is a main dps combo
is it horde clear or single target or what???
https://youtu.be/85U4q36X5DE
https://youtu.be/bKFIMF3NCYo
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>>540916193
If you don't understand why my post made sense then you really are retarded
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>>540916467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WbVeEaNs8
This one. Attack 2 whiffs the headshot a ridiculous amount. I guess they wanted you to larp like it Marth in smash bros? Even then it still whiffs more than it should.
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>>540917143
if you don’t understand why that’s irrelevant then you really can’t read.
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>>540919679
Why do people like us have to be subjected to the idiocy of turd worlders like you? It really isn't fair
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>>540915421
I routinely alt+f4 darktide because the amount of loading screens drive me up the fucking wall.
>Launch game
>Load
>Press space
>Load
>In lobby, find game
>Load
>Uh oh, everyone died while you were loading
>Back to lobby load screen
>Repeat
I want to kms
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>>540914104
>Is there anything redeemable about it?
The mace is Sienna's most damaging melee weapon. It has her best kill times on chaos warriors and hordes, if you can manage its basic combos.
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I LOVE being forced to take Until Death
I LOVE being forced to waste a point on a revive shitters node for 15% elite damage
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>>540920253
>WAH WAH WAAAAAH
Shut up, bitch
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this site needs custom per-general rules
there should be an "all complaints about crutch talents and bad havoc players/havoc trolling must come with a verified no-stealth solo h40 clutch video" or 30 day suspension rule
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>>540909797
you literally have a neckbeard and your fat rolls over your waist when you sit

>>540913693
it really is simple, high t men want thicc ladies in power armor and its not hard to understand

specifically wanting to keep hot women out of your game is at best pussy-whipped "my wife's boyfriend" shit but probably just closeted faggoty type gay
not caring is probably based but it really depends on how vocal you are about not caring
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>>540920551
I recently soloed a melee auric maelstrom
Just listen to me
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Is it possible to get a helbore to the point of 1shotting auric maulers/plasma gunners without using a cooldown?
With all the convenient ranged damage, rending, elite damage I can access without going the right side of the tree they live with a sliver of HP on both left and middle keystones.
Exec stance or shout with Marksman easily overkills but I'd rather have it reliable.
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>>540920783
post cata banners and the capture of your clutch or shut up
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>>540920768
I want hot women too, i'm just a lot smarter than you are so i know SoBs won't happen
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>>540920902
Shut up about your shitty irrelevant game already
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>>540921093
This general was so good before the 40k neckbeards took over
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>>540921385
I'm sorry you don't get a constant flood of rat pedo and bestiality rape posting any, more i guess
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>>on the stimms modifier, blue stimms stack with poxgas for 80%+20% DR on enemies for a total of 100%, turning them literally invulnerable
This absolute untested dogshit gamemode lmao how do people keep insisting this is "endgame" its actual dogshit
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>>540920253
Tanner your zealot build was utter dogshit and you get carried on 40s by your trancord.
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>>540921607
That's when you need to lure them off the map to kill them
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>>540920807
you have to use the bad one it think
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>>540922442
This is with the slow firing high damage mk, I assume that's what you mean by bad one.
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>>540920967
you're posting on /vg/, you're not fooling anyone buddy
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>>540921385
they literally ruin everything
bunch of skinnyfat military washout cosplaying airsoft types who think hitler humor is still funny

but tumblr goblinas need someone to date/harass and they usually tank the hit so on some level u have to thank them
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>>540922919
Irrelevant since i responded to a /vg/ poster who is significantly less intelligent than i am
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>>540923108
i'm smarter though
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>>540923036
As opposed to vermintroons who just fuck each other and any child or animal they can get their claws on
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>>540923182
Good thing i don't need to humor your delusions since i can just wait and see that SoBs will never be added to darktide 1
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Just unlocked Auric difficulty. I'm spooked.

The Emperor just gave me a gold 470 quickdraw revolver though, so He's equipping me for this new trial.
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>>540923643
Damn the mission board looks scuffed on an ultrawide
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>unlocked havoc
>rejected from all parties
damn
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>>540923361
already qualifying your stance
i accept your concession and the trophy for smartest poster
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>>540919742
>xhe said, unable to read
go away juanita
>>540920768
yup, retards like that are just stupid
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>>540921385
>>540923036
>turdie ESLtard rat tears
Delicious.
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>>540923262
you blew xher brown asshole job well done
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(skill issue warning) I suddenly am no longer able to hit headshots with Markie's executioner sword against armored shit on higher difficulties. My sword straight up feels like a pool noodle that comically bounces off of everything.
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>>540920253
>regular damage boost
>in a tree where most of your damage boosts are just normal +damage shit
I skip it. Instead I take revive speed to get to DR on dodge. Running the revive speed node with 3x ally revive speed is nuts anyway, so it's a solid grab. I don't know what you're assblasted over.
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>>540924449
(skill issue waring!!)I think I'm gonna only be able to use thrusting weapons that hit exactly where you aim them in rat click. No more weird swings where the planets need to align for it to register a headshot on high difficulties.
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>>540923720
most things do but only a tide player could be retarded enough to use their entire ultrawide for gaming
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Okay melee psyker feels finally like a genuine build. Insanely fun to faceroll aurics. Gotta test in havocs.
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is there any point in the eviscerator now that relic blade is a thing?
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Power outage and extra plasmagunners and extra captains was a great introduction to auric difficulty, but we managed to do it. Honestly I didn't notice that much of a difference from damnation+captains+lights out.

The red smoke at night made me wish for a real photo mode for this game.
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>>540926602
better at shredding shields and monsters. Also access to Shred blessing to cover any crit gaps..
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>>540927028
crit gaps?
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havoc feels so random, maybe i need to finally jump into the discord and find a premade because i suspect its the various passive synergies that make me feel like a god in some runs and like a wet noodle in others
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>>540927797
Zealot has stuff that procs off crit; Bleed, Toughness Damage Reduction, Cooldown, etc.
An evisercator with Shred covers the early gap before Blazing Piety turns on and allows for faster and more reliable application overall, or even using another keystone without giving up the crit buffs.
The Relic Blade has to wait until Blazing Piety turns on before it can reliably get at least one crit every 3-4 seconds to maintain the TDR/Cooldown, and even with Blazing Piety it is possible to hit an unlucky streak and end up with a gap between refreshes
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Was wondering if /coopg/ finally died
turns out the nig that made this thread tripped my 'waifu' filter
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sissyboy really needs filters on /vg/
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>get to havoc 39 with no crashes playing with a killer team
>they all log off for the night
>I keep playing to try and get to 40
>lose 8 times in a row
>not a problem, I'll just join someone else's 40
>entire lobby crashes to desktop at the end of the mission
thanks fartshart
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>>540925338
Why what’s wrong with that
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>>540902483
It's just sour grapes being butthurt about zealot and wanting Fatshit to add a special snowflake class just for them. Zealot as an archetype already covers SoB with its class abilities mechanics.
SoB would genuinely just be zealot 2: electric boogaloo
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>>540897850
Slap carapace and elite damage on the falchion.
Then use cranial grounding and decapitator or some other blessing.
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>>540931460
The rotton armor mutator literally softlocks you on certain maps. It's not a question of IF the entire server will crash, but merely WHEN. I know this because I had a rotten armor mission that I tried five times and crashed out of five times. I didn't lose clearance rank, but I was not permitted to complete my own mission because it would invariably crash everyone and force end the mission. This havoc season is utter dogshit.
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>the year is 2025
>fatshark still cant come up with more interesting stuff for talents and blessings than +stats
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>>540897850
*activates power sword* sure thing man *activates power sword* whatever you say *activates power sword* me personally however *activates power sword* i'm going to *activates power sword* keep using my *activates power sword* power falchion while *activates power sword* you're doing the *activates power sword* most annoying fucking *activates power sword* gameplay mechanic ever *activates power sword* invented for a *activates power sword* video game while *activates power sword* i'm actually carving *activates power sword* swathes through the *activates power sword* emperor's enemies in *activates power sword* a reasonable amount *activates power sword* of time and *activates power sword* with a reasonable *activates power sword* amount of effort
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>>540931910
true and we all know Fatshark would never do something like that haha..
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shock staff check. still bad?
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>>540915421
>>540919843
There's solutions to both once you stop autistically obsessing over how modding loading screens out of a game is cheating or whatever dumbfuck cope the kind of retards too stupid to install mods come up with.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/15
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/89
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>He needs mods to play the game
True Shitter
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>>540929571
>havoc 16
>won't get accepted into others' lobbies
>What do
Host your own lobby. I see so many posts on here bitching about not being accepted, when the solution is literally as simple as hosting your own.
You will see very quickly why you get rejected, when you have to play with other rejects, and start aggressively filtering them too if you care about winning.
>>540933004
>The rotton armor mutator literally softlocks you on certain maps. It's not a question of IF the entire server will crash, but merely WHEN.
NTA but I didn't experience this. I've had nearly hour long missions of rotten armor that were fine. I know this is very "works on my machine" but I don't even know what kind of crash you're referring to.
At most, I've had 1-2 players crash out of the game, sometimes with regularity, but it never happened to my game, and it never ended a run.
I've only had severe SERVER-SIDE stability issues the past couple days, with rubber banding and unexpected errors forcing the mission to end, but that was notably not rotten armor since that doesn't exist in auric anymore.
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Yes i have anime character replacer
Yes i have enemy autopinger
Yes i have skull/grim/scripture radar
Yes i have autocombo mod
Yes i follow guides
Yes i pick what's efficient over what's "fun"
Yes i will get better score then you
No i wont invite you to my havocs
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>>540937028
>he has to resort to downloading others' havoc screenshots to pretend playing it
some sad faggot you are
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>>540937250
but enough about you
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>>540937467
Cute, but you literally posted my screenshot, pretending to be a numbers wanking scoreboard faggot when the PoV was literally the lowest damage. I have receipts. You will never get over being jealous so why don't you just fucking kill yourself already.
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>>540937467
>no u!!!
He beat you
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>>540937594
Bro brought the motherfucking receipt on his ass
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do you guys think ogryn will ever get another two handed melee weapon

pic unrelated
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>>540937594
scoreboardchads - 1
jealous fags - 0
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>>540937594
what is it about this thread that produces so much clownery
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>>540937757
Yes, but it will be a dual wielding weapon
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>>540937757
>do you guys think ogryn will ever get
nerfed repeatedly, again? Yes.
content? No.
Fatshark clearly thinks ogryn was a mistake, and only keep the class on life support because it's populated with the biggest whale tards.
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>>540937757
Maybe in 2030
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>>540937757
No chances for him or anyone post-arbiter release
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>>540937834
Darkturd
>>
Been playing the DLC for Remnant 2 after dropping the game once I beat the story before they came out and its been pretty fun outside of DLC 2 cucking my Merciless build hard. I gotta wonder though, did they intend to make the backstory morally grey since it really doesn't seem like it is.
>Goatmen get saved by goddess because she's really in love with Goat guy that can play one song good
>Goats get assmad they aren't getting more power from goddess so they kidnap her mortal husband and imprison her when she turns mortal to get the dick
>Goat lover goes apeshit when his subjects hurt his goddess lover and kills most of them
>After he dies, goddess goes apeshit and kills the rest
Like this feels incredibly justified for really only one party involved.
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>>540937834
darktide appeals to thirdies because it's often discounted
thirdies are demonstrably low IQ
now combine inability to figure things out, with low impulse control
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What cause ratcuck to hate darktide so much? Because it overshadow their zooposting
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>>540938956
low IQ tribalism combined with a deep-rooted insecurity about knowing that the game they shill didn't age well and a sprinkling of skill issue that one time they tried to play darktide
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The more I play havoc 40 the more I think they overnerfed the ogryn. You can barely kill anything now in melee. I am constantly the lowest damage dealt despite by aggressive playstyle. Everyone gets giga krak grenades, super purgatus warp damage, strong melee stacking while ogryn got nothing.
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>>540938803
Replace darktide with vermintide like in the original post that you copied and you are 100% right
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>>540939168
You get stagger rape and rumbler, why are you complaining? Scoreboard slaving over damage is retarded, there are plenty other ways of being useful.
I didn't even feel the nerfs in auric. You feel nerfed because armored enemies are giga tanky now and havoc spams them at you, and also pickaxe can't one-tap them anymore. Others get bigger damage numbers because infinite cleave into regenerating hordes inflates numbers, but most of that damage is wasted and thus basically meaningless. Your psyker shitting out 3 million damage doesn't matter when 2 million of that is regenerated back.
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>>540939168
They only got those scores because you kept them safe, king
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>>540918894
skissue
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>>540939259
>like in the original post that you copied
I wrote that myself you fucking nigger.
But I concede that your correction is true. It's both tide games, and likely many other coopg games. L4D is absolutely overrun with slavs and a major reason why I quit many years ago.
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>>540939168
>ogryn got nothing
Nah you are still unkillable stagger machine. Ogryn just needs to have his useless weapons buffed. Every Ogryn player i see uses the same 2 melee and 3 ranged weapons.
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>>540939168
>krak grenades
which needs 2 skills (or more) point to be good while ogryn was just left-click though
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The only correct way to play Ogryn is spamming special attacks with ranged weapons and complaining that your gun is jammed in chat
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>>540939593
>ogryn needs an entire skill tree worth of shit to melee good
>borderline non-viable without a keystone
>veteran invests 1-2 points outside of the usual pathing and just rapes every problematic enemy
Yeah your tardlogic doesn't hold up, bud.
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>>540939497
>I wrote that myself you fucking nigger
It was an almost word for word copy of another post
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>>540939719
>It was an almost word for word copy of another post
Only so many ways to speak the truth.
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Ogryn is still ez mode thanks to infinite toughness regen
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>>540939782
There's only 1 class left that isn't easy mode, and it's psyker.
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Ogryniggers are just mad because they got powercrept by Arbiter doing almost the same cheese shit but better
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>>540939948
The Lex is the Lex, after all.
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>>540939168
Ogryn's crowd control is the best in the game, and it's very much appreciated.
Just don't be the retarded ogryn who stays behind the team "watching your six", defending the psyker against poxwalkers. Be front and center.
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FORMING THE LINE SAAARS
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>>540940059
Depends on what the team needs
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>>540939870
Veteran and Zealot fucking dies if don't move or dodge attacks unlike Ogryn and Arbiter though
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>>540940310
zealot can cheat death and vet can press F to survive
but you're right ogryn and arbi are easier
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Going to start leveling psyker, any tips?
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>>540940691
Don't die
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>>540941004
Thanks
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>>540940691
You don't get any worthwhile weapons for a long time while leveling. Get comfortable with a melee weapon of your choice. Just skill into assail early, it's very strong for what it is, and probably your best option while leveling until you can buy actually good staves and have an actual skill tree. Once you do, you can either ditch it, or take the center keystone to juice it. I don't think assail is all that good once you're all maxed out, but see for yourself.
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>>540941185
scriers EP assail is a lot of fun
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>>540940691
Breathe in
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>>540938131
yaesha was never really morally grey, its always been about going against the bureaucrats and assisting rebels. honestly we are not good people, we come to new worlds and start wrecking the place all the time; we go to rhom and kill their king, we go to corsis and kill their guardian, we go to yaesha and kill their guardian too and start a civil war, we go losomn and kill a couple kings, we go to neurd and witness heatdeath of the universe, we go back to yaesha and burn their tree
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>>540940691
the uninstall wizard
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>>540939168
The scab hp boost and crunch nerf shafted all the slow attacking builds and cemented the ogrynheimer meta even more.

Try lean into the powermaul more if you want more dmg, surprisingly getting over 1m dmg with it consistently without rumbler secondary.
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>>540940691
First node top left, Soulstealer, is one of your best nodes.
No idea which weapons you start with, but try the different staffs when you unlock them and use whatever you feel comfortable with. Staffs are your main source of damage.
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Gonna do the event solo in uprising while doing the smoke penance heehee
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>>540941956
>ogrynheimer meta
This wasn't my observation in h40. Rumbler is obviously the best weapon and what was most used, but it wasn't a main source of damage or anything, but rather a source of stagger when fuckhugemassive groups managed to outlast the zealot's stagger spam, and stunlocking monstrosities after staggering them with chorus.
Most ogryns I had last week were middling to low damage and primarily melee focused, using the rumbler sparingly and keeping it as an emergency option. Though I'm not sure how much of that was me allowing the ogryn to save ammo by keeping everything suppressed, staggered or stunned.

Unless I'm wrong about how the "ogrynheimer" meme plays. I was under the impression that it's supposed to use the rumbler a lot and take most of the ammo on the team, and nobody in my 30-40s did that.
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>>540941956
Slow was never the meta
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>>540942715
it's the one that takes lucky bullet for free ammo, they will be spamming two shots every few melee kills, even more with vet survivalist feeding ammo.

Rumbler is still used on HH builds for disruption and dealing with bulwark spam, which is what I assumed you witnessed more of.
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>>540943116
*except when the folding shovels could 1 shot 4 crushers at a time
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>>540943116
I know it wasn't the meta, it was still effective though. Being able to just ignore regen and enrage havoc modifiers with well placed branx or foldable shovel hit was nice.
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>>540943138
I don't go into havoc without a veteran, so the one lucky bullet user I had did predictably well, but it wasn't noticeably better than HH ogryns, which is why I'm confused about anon talking about reinforcing some sort of ogrynheimer meta. The winning team's ogryn I did 37-40 with without a single failure didn't have lucky bullet either.
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>>540943562
i think the rumbler is good enough on its own, without Lucky. Main purpose is disruption and controlling crushers/bulwarks.
We don't really need the boss damage anymore since 99% of vets take 4 Krak grenades and mark target.
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>>540943227
I'm still upset that we lost this. Even if they removed the cleave cap, pickaxes would still be better. I haven't seen a single foldie since the dickaxes dropped.
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>>540943919
Yeah, it's a big shame
It wouldn't even work now with the health buffs
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How long does 2 bleed last? What about 4 brittle? How good is 8 burn?
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>>540944034
>How long does 2 bleed last
Like 4 seconds
>What about 4 brittle
Depends on the source. Usually 5 seconds
>How good is 8 burn?
Depends on the affected enemy, but it's not much
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>>540944034
Brittleness usually lasts for 5 seconds, it should say so on the blessing.

For bleed and burn, ask the lady in the tube.
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>>540942232
The event is too boring for me to finish but good news is the smoke turned all the plasma men gay.
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>>540943562
you would have to ask the ogryn you played with why, ogrynheimer build can also be met with as much disdain as smykers. I know I can't stand them in anything below havoc.
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What does your reconlas build look like? I'm unsure about deadshot, my stamina disappears in the blink of an eye.

Fastest reconlas, collateral at 60%, flak+unyielding, headhunter+infernus.
One health, one toughness, one stamina curio, all at 430, all have ability regen, stamina regen and gunner resist.
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>>540944476
I don't get this either. I've noticed maybe two of them in a hundred aurics, because they really did just annihilate every enemy (and ammo pickup). I didn't mind being along for the ride, it was quite entertaining. Unlike smiggers, rumbler spam really does carry.
Is this some sort of US server or Mr Estrogen fanboy thing that doesn't happen on EU servers?
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>>540944481
>I'm unsure about deadshot, my stamina disappears in the blink of an eye.
>Fastest reconlas,
There's your problem. Use the slow, brown one instead, it performs better with Deadshot than the fast one can ever hope to without.
Skip the right side of the tree (you can take the dodge crit but it's not necessary), path down the middle instead and take rending on your way to piss mark, and take the stamina restore node there. You will need it.
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>>540944629
North American servers tend to be a shit show, yes.
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>>540835867
Another day of wondering why Fatfark hasn't added this hair style to the game for us to use
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>>540944962
Bih got a karen ahh haircut
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Why do people value stam so much over other things? Almost every person i inspect with super epic title has it on their relics.
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>>540945078
That's fine, I'll take that over more than half the haircuts we already have
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>>540945374
it has some value, but it depends on class and build. It mainly helps at clutching when 3 teammates are dead. Easier to pick up/rescue teammates. Can sprint longer.
Unless you find yourself constantly running out of stamina, don't worry about it. I think some players just really love sprinting all the time.
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What is a sure fire way to carry a team solo from 35+ havoc to 40?

taunt ogryn?
bubble psyker?
chorus zealot?
smoke veteran?
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>>540945374
A lot of players undervalue other good stats. If you see someone without cooldown reduction, they're either being contrarian, or are too stupid to know it's the best stat. I generally consider gunner resist to be the next best one and thus the default pick, but it's not quite set in stone like CDR is. I run full flamer resist on arbitrator, full revive speed on zealot.
Stamina is good, and also one of the stronger stats. Stamina curios are also very powerful and just comfy to have in general. I don't think you ever need more than 1 stamina curio unless you're doing some meme build.

>>540946214
>carry a team solo from 35+ havoc to 40?
I don't think this is possible anymore after the CDR nerfs, but if I had to pick one class to guarantee having a good player on, it'd be krak vet, because those win games when played well.
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>>540945374
some weapons also have really strong push attacks

>>540946214
bubble pysker, ideally with someone who has good boss dmg too
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>>540946214
Taunt ogryn with rumbler.
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>>540934982
I do this and say this
>>540937676
>>540938131
>>540938956
>>540939112
>>540939259
Kek based
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>>540940691
Watch the funny AdMech meme involving that guy. Funny stuff. Will make you a better player
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>>540944408
why would the smoke do that
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>Error just as we finish Auric Mortis, no reconnect
T-thanks
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Cleave is a dogshit stat and I'm tired of people saying otherwise. It literally does not affect the damage you do to any of the enemies you hit.
Literally all it will do is let you do 5% of your initial hit damage to one extra poxwalker per swing. DOGSHIT.
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>>540950014
>take 125% cleave on arbitrator
>push once to turn it on
>annihilate an entire hallway in a single shotgun blast
ok
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>>540950270
Obviously ranged cleave is fine you dumb bitch, I'm clearly talking about melee weapons that have damage falloff.
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>>540950382
>swing sword
>it gets stuck in the fourth poxer's head
>the fifth and sixth one now force me burn through my dodges or interrupt my combo to block/push
>take cleave
>everything on the screen is now getting knocked over in a single swing
ok
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>do havoc 28
>havoc forged joins
>runs away the entire game getting caught out and dies
>lose

Fuck I wish I could get carried like that.
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>>540946214
bubble psyker
make one of your friends play shout psyker and find an arbitrator bitch to push and stagger enemies near you
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>>540951462
this happens every time btw
i specifically won't invite havoc-forged or true survivors to any havoc below 35
they're mostly trying to speedrun for footage or the havoc helmet
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>>540946214
>>540951471
learning the maps matters so much more than what class you play though
backing off to before respawn checkpoints when someone goes down or is low is a huge part of guaranteeing havoc runs
knowing chokepoints and where you can door bosses can trivialize multi-boss spawns and crazy special spawns
b/c of the chokepoints and respawn checkpoints, some maps you'd expect to be more difficult based on pubby auric dynamics are simpler and vice versa

you have to have a route through any open room and communicate it or your pubs will inevitably run off and get trapped out and cause more disabler special spawns
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>>540948995
Ask fatshark...
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https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-78-1-9-2-patch-notes/113108

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-78-1-9-2-patch-notes/113108

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-78-1-9-2-patch-notes/113108

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-78-1-9-2-patch-notes/113108
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>>540937008
In high havocs it is well noted that entire lobbies are currently crashing out of missions and it seems to be tied to the rotten armor modifier. Everyone in 35+ that I’ve played with has mentioned crashing.
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>>540952128
If you didn't hit havoc 40 before this patch, you haven't truly beaten it.
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>>540951462
>>havoc forged joins
Never accept Havoc-Forgedlets into anything. All that title says is "I was carried to 40 and am too busy hugging the floor every game to get True Survivor". It's unironically a bigger indicator that someone is a shitter than ASS is.
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I'm a poxbreaker :3
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>>540950014
cleave is important if you don't have enough
cleave is useless if you already have enough
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>>540952128
>literally just plasma gunner nerf
I'm ok with this.
Also this is the first time I've seen Fatshark react to feedback faster than Arrowhead.
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>>540952278
>removed wall penetration
Why the fuck did they have it in the first place? These fuckers were wall banging me through terrain that even a fully charged plasma shot wouldn’t go through if tried by a player, it was insane.
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>>540953008
You just didn't have enough CP(Chaos Points) to shoot through walls.
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>>540951462
You are stuck in the havoc hell. Anything below 35 are the worst players imaginable. You wont get any higher unless you leech from 40s.
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If you leech your way to 40 then you didn't beat havoc.
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>>540953008
What's worse I think the plasma gunners also have wall hacks. So they can see through walls.
In reality all ranged enemies do have that, especially gunners, but it's never an issue because the bullets never penetrate the wall.
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>>540953740
if you're playing with 3 other people who are good, you're leeching..
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>>540953740
Kinda true, but leeching to climb out of the 20-30 shitter trench is acceptable imo. I couldn't even imagine being stuck there. I honestly feel privileged to have been around from the start and never have dropped below 30.
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anyone wanna play some havocs with me?
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>>540952128
>Fixed an issue where the ammo value in the magazine and in reserve of secondary weapons would be incorrect and/or receive incorrect scaling from the Ammo stat.
ripperkings, we are back
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>>540954043
I'm playing uprising rn for penances and the event
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>>540954043
i have dinner at mom's house soon
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>>540954043
I'm fucking Anon's mom before dinner
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>>540954214
Nice.
I do still wish they'd buff ripper guns more, they need more range. Especially mk2.
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>>540954257
yeah most people just grind it out
>>540954445
have a nice meal anon
>>540954584
wash your hands afterwards
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>>540952128
I assume that there's no new cosmetics within the patch?
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>>540952836
>>540955279
The patch was released to fix color textures of many skins like the whole set of Vostroyans lol
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>>540953924
They belong there. Don't help the crabs out of the bucket if you don't want to be surrounded by crabs.
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>Rannik shows space cop his "My dick is bigger than yours" card
What a guy.
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How do you respond to this without sounding mad?
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>>540957030
I respond by saying they're right... havok 30 is the new havok 40 people get used to it
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>>540957030
Point out the grammatical error and don’t address anything he said. That’s the optimal strategy.
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>>540957030
call them brown and esl and tell them to kill themselves. people who post like that here are never mad.
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>>540957030
Enemies need to be fun to shoot at, and they need to be fun to be shot at by. This is one of the oldest pillars of the FPS genre and people like that retard have no idea what they're talking about. Therefor just respond by telling them they're wrong, uneducated and their opinion would make the game objectively worse.
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>>540951462
>wishing for others to be strong
Healslut mindset. You should main zealot.
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>>540957030
Tell them to post hours played and then never respond again
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>>540957030
Getting insta killed by an enemy you didn't see, that shoot through walls with x-ray vision isn't fun.
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>>540957587
>2000 hours, but only plays ogryn in malice, averaging 3 deaths
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>>540958004
actually, Bad Ass seal
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>>540953740
I don’t give a fuck. I’m tired of playing with retarded shitters who can’t handle existing in the proximity of a few crushers without eating an overhead. I can’t carry three other players in havoc 30+, it’s just not feasible for me.
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>>540953283
>You didn’t have enough CP
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If I wanted to use the hellbore, which mark is "the good one" and why?
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>>540959957
It's trash, don't bother.
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>>540957030
Remind them that networking skills don't translate to being a good game designer.
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>>540959358
Ironic, benchwarmer
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Bros I kinda like playing melee psyker. I'm just gonna keeping doing it.
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>>540959957
Depends on your build.
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>>540962259
I’m happy for you, just stay out of my havoc lobby.
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>>540963774
Stay out of my Mortises
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>>540963774
Can I let that sink in?
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Where can I see event progress or something? I just got 3k diamentine and I have no clue where it's from
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>>540959957
The fastest firing/charging one that is colored blue.
Still however it just sucks.
It is really annoying that all the DRM style guns in this game fucking suck. Helbore is plagued with the awful charge mechanic and vigilant autoguns are just bad, and that is even after the buffs they made for them in this patch.
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>>540965096
Hop into the mourningstar, hold tab, then press E to cycle
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so how realistically darktide would run on a rig that has a nvidia titan Xp and a i7 6950x?
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>>540959957
Depends on what you're building for. If you just want to pop special/elite heads, whatever mark is the heavy one with the charge you can hold for a bit. Either way, the gun is good enough to function okay in havoc.
>>540965309
>DRM style guns
Digital Rights Management guns? They have Denuvo in gun form now?
>fucking suck
Maybe in your hands. They're all good enough to meaningfully contribute with a good build. They're just not S-tier like the bolter. On which subject, bolter is still the best choice for popping heads, but this entire general is plagued with magdumplets who can't aim and think Deadshot is bad.
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>>540965309
>all the DRM style guns
did you mean DMR? like designated marksman rifle?
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What is the warpstone equivalent in 40K? Unless it also exists there, then disregard.
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>>540966234
Uranium
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>>540961162
… what
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>>540966234
Nothing. Warp stone is basically the Aethyr/Chaos concentrated into a purely physical and highly unstable form. The Warp can achieve similar effects but there’s no uniform material like it in 40k.
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>>540936404
Pretty sure no one says that regarding those kinds of mods. It’s the gameplay related ones that that’s true for.
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>>540967664
You underestimate the lengths to which someone too retarded to install or maintain mods will go to cope.
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>>540956639
kek
>>540956761
yeah that was kino i love rannick
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Bros! I'm almost at 5500 PP(Penance points)! Are they going to add more things on the penance track soon?
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>>540965667
It wouldn't.
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>>540968386
AAAAHAHAhahah... ahah... *sob*
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Am I missing something or is the Power Falchion a straight downgrade to the Devils Claw?
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>>540969728
How, claw has no damage, powered-up falchion deals with mixed hordes rather well
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>>540969728
I think you're missing a few IQ points
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>>540965876
>>540965876
I chuckled
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>>540966234
It only exists as a copeguffin for retarded
funny rats to have technology

>>540931910
right they’d never add a couple op weapons and a dog to an existing archetype and make it a distinct class, players should just equip one of the many Sisters-inspired cosmetics
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>>540965876
>tfw no DMX inspired guns
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>>540966234
The correct answer is WAAAGH.
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>>540969728
Both suck
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>>540931910
These words, they don't mean what you think they mean.
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Next class is eldar. They need the simpbux.
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>>540972632
Would buy the premium edition.
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>>540972632
Only if they’re attractive. Also the height on that would be absurd. They’re like 7 feet tall on average.
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>>540972632
wouldn't be surprised at all if Swagger were a corsair
he speaks to the tech priests and about grendyl with such impunity
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>>540973383
Fatshark already said they wouldn't make a new character height/POV for players since all the maps have been designed with ogryns and regular humans in mind.
My guess would be that they'd just make the eldar same height as the ogryn characters so they can reuse the POV.
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>>540973694
>Tranner
The borderlands general is down the hall, faggot.
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>>540973810
since there's height sliders all they really have to do is keep it less than ogryn's maximum height right?

its not like waist-level cover provides complete cover anyway
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anything that prevents mr_e's ugly ass from becoming /ourguy/ is fine by me, even if its trooner
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>>540973694
>still no ogryn or arbites build
Grim.
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They should release the blackshield space marine class. Fatshart are gay swedes (inb4 you said gay twice) if they don't.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKgmZBOlzNc
it's up
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>>540974179
>still no ogryn or arbites build
Grim.
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>>540974179
I literally have this same exact build except I go for stealth because I'm a homo (I'm swedish)
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>>540974032
>you have to like x to dislike y
brown
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>>540974443
yeah me and my boys post on your block what you gonna do about it lil white girldick?
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>>540973694
>>540974179
Yes, my cock is up. Thank you for noticing.
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>>540974801
>what the fuck lil timminella gon do
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>>540973810
Hmmm true I forgot that Ogryns existed for a minute kek.
>>540974443
You angered the browncord xister careful or xhe’ll throw another melty lasting 200 posts.
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>>540975118
link to the last melty?
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>>540973810
>>540973383
No that's dumb. An eldar would be normal human height, like Kerillian.
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is grenade tinkerer overkill for havoc krak spam?
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>>540977828
can be hard to make good use of it
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>>540977828
Why would you shoot the ennemies your teamates are already dealing with in melee?
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>>540977747
No it's great. Part of the appeal is the ability to delete monstrosities. +75% damage is a lot.
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>>540974836
it's so massive it's impossible to miss
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>>540978585
To give them 15% toughness and 15% damage, and to make the zealot's damage score even smaller.
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>don't post too much or me and my janny friends will delete your entire general
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how can i test builds against rotten armor/EFL2?
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>>540965667
60 fps at 1080p shouldn't be a problem
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*Farts*
How's that for a pox gas modifier?
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>>540979501
join my havocs
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is toughness damage reduction a meme stat? isn't the whole point to always have full toughness so you don't take health damage from schroedinger's pink rat?
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>>540979730
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>>540979803
you keep declining me
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>>540979718
Bring at least one krak vet. Two krak vets makes it ridiculously easy. Grab a taunt ogryn to herd them up into tight packs and then watch the kraks turn them into mulch.
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>>540980494
a perk is like +25% dmg against carapace
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>>540980494
I have not accepted a vet in my havoc since arbeetus came out and my winrate has never been better (server crash don't count).
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>>540980642
Yeah and I’m saying it doesn’t matter. You bringing 25% damage against carapace isn’t going to magically solve a wall of 15 crushers. Bring a krak vet, it’s not optional.
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>>540980758
the class has no crutch perks which doesn't matter here since everyone is obviously an h40 solo carry but in the wild it means they spend most of the match sprinting away to a safe corner to throw nades from
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>>540980279
No, it helps. Damage resistance is good.
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Has anyone here played with that disgusting infinite smite scrier’s build? This shit is so funny. It turns high havoc into a joke, there’s no way this doesn’t get nerfed.
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>>540979803
you were busy >>540954445
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>>540980331
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lmao they fucked something up
every time i come out of my menu in the morningstar i get all of the built up vox chatter at once
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>>540981830
That’s just what the morningstar sounds like on open comms.
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>>540981150
ok i figured health and universal damage reduction was good, but wasn't sure if toughness damage reduction was ever worth it
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>>540973694
this guy is gonna quit if they ever remove weapon blessing dot interaction, surprised it has lasted this long when every unique interaction got purged from Ogryn
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>>540982417
Lose less toughness so you can regen to max faster, I don't understand what's confusing about it.
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>>540975546
You don’t want that anon…
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>>540982628
just seems like most of my runs are defined by situations where i'm either at max toughness or in an impossible situation getting downed, i don't take a whole lot of chip damage
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>>540981468
why is thios post pinned
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>>540982768
I love reading seethe, just link it.
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Melee Psykerbros, do you path for Empyric Resolve or drop the 3 points elsewhere? It seems really good for SG uptime, but it's expensive as fuck
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>>540982975
Dumb ratto
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>>540980331
Kek
>>540979803
Cute…
>>540975689
I wish…
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>>540982975
Todd pinned i t
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any coop games where you use grappling hooks? i got a boner for those things. already played drg and nightreign.
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>>540982975
because starfield only managed to make one meme and it was liking the unambiguously evil guy just to be contrarians
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>>540982975
Because BASED Victis did nothing wrong.
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>>540983236
lost planet 2 I think
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has anyone else's VT2 started lagging? was rock solid a week ago
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>>540983236
and warframe
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The mk2 ripper gun says it does like 578 damage.
Does that mean the 3 round burst does 578 damage or does it mean that each individual shot does 578 damage?
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>>540983376
that's what i thought but it's delisted on steam. i was thinking 3 but i remember it's horse shit. 1 only has pvp.
>>540983572
no mmo please some people don't have time for grinds
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What's the current GOATED veteran secondary?
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>>540983236
the only thing better dan a chainsword...is TWO chainswords
also dying light
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>>540983695
It's a shotgun so it's neither. How does it work, you ask? I don't fucking know lmao. 1800 hours btw.
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When do we get dual wielding weapons? Do they come with the Felinid update? >:3c
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>>540983785
>Warframe
>MMO
lol
lmao
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>Psykinetic's Aura brings Scrier's Gays back off CD as soon as its duration finishes
lolwat
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>>540983695
each individual shot does 578 damage. One burst is then 3x 578.
Easiest thing to test in the entire world btw, you lazy FUCK
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>>540983879
It's always been boltgun. You aim at heads. Only magdump shotgunner clowncars or monstrosities.
Plasma isn't far behind. Bolt pistol has its niche in grenademaxxing.
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>>540984473
this is why people who take Warp Siphon with scriers are retards btw since it's literally anti synergistic
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>>540984816
Best secondary? Is it still the toothpick?
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>>540984693
How many pellets does it take to reach 578?
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>>540984991
all of them
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>>540984990
Melee is your primary.
Power sword fills all the necessary niches without requiring skill investment to excel. Dueling sword is still good, arguably better than before with skill investment. Knife is still excellent for uncanny, mobility, and bleeding out bosses.
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>>540984858
People run Warp Siphon with SG? I thought everyone ran DD with it. I never even went to that side of the lower tree pre-patch.
Then again, I wouldn't really know. Psyker is my least played class at only like level 50. You mind telling me what you think of my build? I considered going for Empyric Resolve to stay in SG longer, but with Aura giving such insane uptime, I decided to throw stuff into Kinetic Flayer and DD stack gen instead.
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>>540985278
thanks buddy, hydra dominatus
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>>540985345
Seems like a fairly standard melee psyker build since the update. There's nothing wrong here.
I prefer Assail with Warp Unbound, but that's just habit and preference.
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>>540986096
Sweet, thanks. I'll try it out with Assail. I do think Assail is pretty cool
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>>540986219
it's important to take the last Scriers point with assail, because it lets you dump all 10 darts at 100% peril. It's like a mini ult.
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>pop the dog while he's about to pounce
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>540986316
Figured that's what was going on. Do you grab the additional target piercing node?
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>post-hotfix I CTD as soon as I try to enter the Mourningstar as a character with mods enabled
Awesome
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>>540986324
>Oneshot the mutant with heavy sword
RAAAAAAH RAH RAH RAAA-ACK!
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>>540986442
yes, and cleave on peril
i dont take cooldown, feels unessecary
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>>540975689
Eldar are taller than humans. They are about 7-8ft tall on average.
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>>540984693
Sorry, but I just wasn't sure so I wanted to confirm it.
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>>540978918
Awww thanks bud :3
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>>540983905
Gay
>>540983258
He looks cool so he can’t be that bad
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>>540988804
Oh interesting. The bug makes it seem incredibly value since you can keep SG up a fuckton, but it is a short CD by default. I was trying to find a way to sneak in Malefic Momentum, so I might try swapping PA for it.
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>press T button
>enemy takes 25% extra damage from all sources with no cooldown or strings attached at all times
>Rapier basically auto-headshots because of how easy it is to aim
>does uber headshot damage with its tier 2 charge (most melee weapons don't even have a tier 2 charge)
>combos are literally mash m1 or mash m2
>Bleed DoT on all strikes on top of that
>special attack pistol with infinite ammo that stuns shit.
Is he someone's self insert at Fat Shark or something? Any time someone picks him and doesn't go Witch Hunter or is a retard it's like there goes 100000 points of damage across the team.
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>get demoted down to havoc 36 after almost achieving a natural 40
>decide to go play some 20s to blow off steam
>win a havoc 23, my assignment rank goes up to 37
>??????
what the fuck? this broken ass game...
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>>540990594
aaaaand he died
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>plowgryn kicks me to path of mutant that then throws me to an exploding pox burster, the resulting explosion sends me back to to the plowgryn, who then proceeds to kick me off the platform
>get rescued
>get disconnected as we are extracting
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>>540985449
Say that again
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>tanner is so gay that he got banned from grindr
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Tactical Axe or Combat Axe
for my Blazing Piety Zealot
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>>540992747
how can she slap?
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>>540995830
that makes no sense
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Can someone translate? I refuse to learn a language from a country that never won a war
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>>540997331
i love burster
can anyone not finger the lass
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>>540997331
Naucz się czytać.
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>>540997470
What a confusing culture.
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>>540992747
its not fucking fair
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>>540997565
Sorry I don't speak african neither :/
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>"IT'S UP"
>"IT'S LIVE"
>"IT- ACK!"
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>>540996230
Both are good. Tac Axe with enough crit becomes pretty monstrous, and I enjoy playing it more. But if you aren't getting good crit RNG, it can feel very bad vs armor.
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>>540997807
You can't fight the Trannerisation of /coopg/. It is inevitable.
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If any anons are CTDing on mourningstar entry, disable SoloPlay.
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>have no compulsion to take estrogen or cut my dick off
>will never be a darktide havoc 40 player
filtered...
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>>541000397
There's still hope for you if you're a slav.
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>>540991020
Sigmar male grindset, same reason he also has the DLC class that wipes its ass with mixed hordes and gives everyone on your team immortality and obscene stagger
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>>541000397
>>have no compulsion to take estrogen or cut my dick off
Ridiculous and totally unnecessary. All you have to do is crossdress with makeup and wear a buttplug and havoc 40 comes easy. No need to complicate things.
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>NetEase publishes Battle for Cadia
>It is to Darktide as Rivals is to Overwatch
>sloppy, distinctively Korean oiled-up game feel
>heavies get a little weight but everything feels floaty
>cosmetics, public stats, and a seasonal battle pass
>coomer skins
>every Imperial faction gets a character, from IG to SM, and the characters are balanced without further comment on lore implications
>Eldar, Ork and T'au characters are planned, explained by need to stop super-evil Tyra-Necron macguffins in remote corner of galaxy and further handwaved by Rogue Trader shenanigans

well anon, would you play it?
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>>540997662
life ain't
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>>541002891
fucking yikes.
It all hinges on the lasguns. If they're still beams I'd at least try it. If they're bolts I'd skip.
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>>541002891
I'll never betray my TenCent overlord.
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>>541003371
You're still crying over colours?
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>>540997807
>>541000397
>>541002836
Good and accurate posts.
>>541002891
>NetEase publishes
Sounds like slop of the highest order
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>>541003893
what?
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>>541002891
all of this is negated by the fact that skulls are not allowed in chink vidya
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>>541002891
A finger on the monkey's paw curls: Fatshark is chosen as the developer.
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>>541004761
i totally forgot that was a thing
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>>541004761
servitors are replaced by cyborg anime girls with waifu proportions, nobody complains
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Imagine if we got Helldivers but in warhammer universe.....
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>>541007803
that would just be a non linear version of spwace maween tew
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>>541007803
wow nothing has changed
same level of cringe
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>>541007803
gee I would totally love getting ragdolled all over the ground while my teamates are scattered on the map
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>>541008784
Should have picked assault or devastator marine for ragdolling resistance
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>late night gaming on the EU server
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>>541010624
guaranteed
>hehe mission goes splat due to unexpected error fuck those 4 people and their time)
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>>540931460
I lost 8 in a row and then finally won a game which was the cathedral map and I crashed in the last 5 seconds after destroying the 3 green tanks so the game didn't count it and the havoc board says that my highest completed havoc is 0
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>>541010624
i dont get it...
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>>541000397
the only reason to play havoc is to get the skins and that's it.. does that even need havoc 40
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>>541010995
It's full of retarded slavoids
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>>541004761
>>541005178
>>541005286
There’s some weird leeway though. There have been some games that have skulls from them, it seems to be mostly dead bodies and shit that they have a problem with but idk
>>541007803
>average Astra Mili campaign but gay
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>Mr E-strogen releases a smite build
>ruins quickplay forever
It has to stop.
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>>541012814
no
rank 24 and 50 missions of joining someone's havoc
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I keep crashing :(
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>>541016474
Havoc, auric or lower quickplay? what error code?
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can someone tell me what's the point of the right side of the zealot tree when Martyrdom exists? does it have some secret synergy with a weapon or something?
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>>541017570
It's certainly not for the keystone
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>>541017570
For when you don't want to play at low HP and aren't running a weapon that benefits much from crits...in theory. I haven't tried it since the rework, but it was pretty lackluster, even with the fucking TH, before patch. CDR nerf and making IJ's own CDR node work differently might actually make its keystone desirable on some weapons (Ironically, I don't think you want anything but Martyr for TH now with the Crusher HP buff, assuming Martyr gets you to one-shot)
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>>541016904
NTA but constant DCs with error 2014 and 2004 along with a multitude of crashes and mission aborts
theres some bullshit going on with the damage reduction calculations on the rotten armour and stimms modifiers thats bricking the game, and then just increased server issues causing DCs even though they handled plenty more players before
and of course they rush to fix cosmetics first then deal with the backlash of releasing a horribly balanced enemy and crashes or performance issues get the backseat until they come back from vacations, eventually
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>>541017570
I use right side keystone with relic blade and boltgun in aurics because I like not being on 20 health all the time. I've had too many teammates pop bursters in my face, and don't want to play like a pussy whenever one shows up.
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Rotten armour makes it take a darktillion years to just push forward duuuuudee this shit is pure cancer. Also I have played about 12 havocs since the update and I have lost 11 of them. EU havoc teams after midnight are fucking grim
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>can't find late night EU lobbies
fine i'll go across the pond
>no east NA lobbies to be found either
oh..
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>after 5 error 2004 disconnects, the game finally crashes entirely
FIX IT
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is PVP in a coop game just bad?

I reckon the only notable coop game to have a successful pvp mode was L4D, and even then I'm pretty sure PVE was much more popular.
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>>541021541
Depends on the game
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>>541019967
rotten armor is complete trash as a havoc modifier. fighting one billion crushers is not fun, it's just tedious and annoying. krak vets are living large, i guess.
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>>541019967
Ironically, in the EU it's the jobless neets that are up all night that are turbo shitters.
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>>541022325
lel I just got steamrolled by like 20 crushers on ogryn and not even by their overheads which I can dodge just fine but my toughness got slowly chipped away by gunners and if you're at 0 toughness as ogryn the crusher side swipe where they poke you with the bottom of their stick insta downs you. Everyone else ate shit too of course and I didn't have the space to pull out my box cause I had to dodge all those crushers + pox bursters + snipers + gunners. Actual fucking cancer I still don't have a havoc rank next time my name after all these games (which males it harder to get accepted into games) cause like I said here >>541010975
I got fucking disconnected 5 seconds before the end of the only game I won.
>>541022556
I had 2 good players with me I just had a complete retard selfish ammo hogging arbitrator that couldnt stop dying. If that had been an even half decent zealot player with book we could have won it easily. 95% of all arbitrators in havoc fucking suck donkey dick
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>>541022556
>jobless neets
Arabs and africans
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>>541021541
L4D pvp was okay. Issue was how utterly broken survivors were to specials.
Its why there's so many ragetards in the versus community.
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>>541021541
for real coop games where it's near suicidal or impossible to win by yourself, it's very difficult to have an actual fun pvp mode for everyone.
one faction will get shafted and just becomes an unfun sweatfest.

hence the reason why Vermintide doesn't have PVP and Back 4 Blood shouldn't have wasted resources on pvp.
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>>541023436
>Arabs and africans
they mostly play Fifa games
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>>541024908
They play shooters too but idk how many of them have caught on to something like Darktide I think they’re all in CoD or something
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>>541013787
It’s sad because that’s all I play these days
>>541016474
>>541019171
>>541021121
Yeah the errors are probably ever going away at this point it’s something wrong with the code of the game it seems and they aren’t willing to fix it just gotta live with it
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>>541026623
>>541024908
It's the slavgroids who shit up coop games
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>>541026821
if they dont fix them then theyll hemorrhage the remaining playerbase
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Do you think Ogryn farts can be harnessed as a weapon?
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>>541013787
That smite build is a godsend in high havocs, but it's definitely insane overkill for anything outside of that, I agree. I'd never run that into auric or below, lmao
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>>541026862
I've only ever seen w*men shit up coop games.
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>>541017570
it also improves your dodges. Per kuli's guide:
>Also increases dodge speed and dodge distance by 0.5%, and dodge reset time by 1% per dropped stack.
Also the left node makes you v survivable. So it gives dmg, attack speed, dodge improvements, and constant toughness gen at no cost to your HP. Pretty nice package, but imo it's more competing with Blazing Piety than it is with Martyrdom.
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>>541027395
Not against nurgle
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>>541013787
i literally posted about that exact build the day of the patch
guess i should become a Darktide Youtuber
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>>540992747
Heckdivers complain about being ragdolled when they have 5 (20) lives to try again with.
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>>541028381
Speaking of which, where are the new enemy types other than Nurgle worshipers?
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>>541030357
*shrugs*
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>infinite smite build
>constantly using scrier's gaze
>takes empyric resolve + quietude + mind in motion
>skips warp ghost
>takes elite kills instead of flat 5% boost
>skips malefic momentum

is mr e retarded?
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>>541028191
The issue is kinda that the idea is that blazing piety is for crit scaling weps and the right side keystone is for weps that dont scale with crits so well
but powercreep just gave every wep incredible finesse mods over time so I dont think any such wep even exists anymore. They all scale so hard with crits
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>>541004761
Sure buddy. All those Chinese names in 40k games are just warp ghosts that only we
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>>541031448
He... he's gone...
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>>541031448
They got him rip
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>>540983236
The First Descendant has a grappling hook that attach to anything in the environment, and it has an upgrade where it can attach to midair so you can grapple for a boost or to get places without even needing an attachment point.

The game is /coopg/ because the whole thing is farming mobs or attacking bosses as a 4 person or 8 person group, and there's also things you can do solo like the overworld missions.

It's also got some optional coomer content in the form of silly or sexy skins.
Free to play and all story content and missions are free, as well as all guns and vehicles and equipment etc. The only thing you pay for is cosmetics or convenience.

I wouldn't say it's a main game to really get into and play every day, but I log in every few days to run a few missions and grapple around the map or drive around doing missions in the newer open world section..
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>>541004761
The actual thing that's banned is anything that "encourages superstitious beliefs" when it comes to corpses and skeletons.
fighting undead is usually okay. Skull motifs are usually okay. Sometimes necromancers are okay too. It just depends mostly on who reviewed it at the time and wether he thought it was encouraging kids to go
>COOL! I'M GONNA BE A NECROMANCER AND/OR EVIL NECROWIZARD
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>>541032104
But diablo has a necromancer class
Isn't diablo popular in china???????????
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>>541032104
What a weird concern
Do they think kids are going to rob graves and raise the dead lol
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>>541032998
They revere their ancestors and believe that they watch over them, and that messing with dead bodies interrupts that process.

It's not more or less weird than believing in santa claus or the tooth fairy. Every culture has some unsubstantiated beliefs, and millions of parents around america unironically tell their kids santa clause and the easter bunny and the tooth fairy really exist.
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>>541033270
>It's not more or less weird than believing in santa claus or the tooth fairy
We don't believe that shit past age 12

Chinkcels however really are retarded. That's why they can't even beat mexico's gdp per capita
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>>541030481
no but like actually why is mr e's build so phenomenally retarded
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>>541032643
https://mein-mmo.de/en/diablo-3-oil-instead-of-blood-this-is-what-the-censored-necromancer-looks-like,163608/
It's fairly sanitized in d3.
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>>541033587
Thanks, hans, but why aren't you asleep right now??????
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>>541032998
It's more of a religion thing (or lack thereof in chinas case). Think of it like how they chased down mentions of magic and other heathen stuff in europe after christians took over. The state was christian, so unchristian things like that were acts against the state. Today, our state and the church are seperated.
In china the state still has the power to tell you what your spiritual views should be. They don't want you to believe in shit like this spiritually, so they'll make laws that regulate it.
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god eurohours are ATROCIOUS
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>>541032643
undead get censored all time its usually some kind of low violence model, like in dota and lol they gave pugna and karthus holocough masks to hide the fact theyre skeleton wizards
>>541033754
communism is a religion
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>chinoids see brutal workplace and road accidents several times a day
>still can't see gore in video games
Lol
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>>541033816
make sure to add this to your livejournal
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>>541033816
Euros are asleep right now
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>discord retards summon /pol/ retards
every fuckin time
see the two other actual primaries who post here tomorrow
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>>541034065
Pipe down, libtard
This is our website
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>>541034065
>I don't like how people ask and talk about the censorship around skulls as related to darktide, a 40k game full of skulls and chinese players
>...it must be /pol/ shit!
>it must be off topic!
>JANNIES SAVE ME!!
people like you are like insects
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>>541033740
retard
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>>541034264
>>541034289
darkchuds about to be crying when ratkings feast again this winter
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They call it 'Dark'tide because you'd have to be brown to play it
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>>541034301
Get a job
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>>541034704
>first site on google that has a comparison of the changes happens to be german
>surely this means the poster is german
giga retard
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>>541035000
Uh yeah? That's literally because you are german
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>demoted to 38
>ahh my beautiful new assignment
i guess i'll just go fuck myself
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>ogryn goes charge instead of taunt
>mission is immediately 100 times more difficult than it needs to be

Why do people insist on playing meme shit in havoc 40?
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i thought taunt was shit
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>>541035332
Charge is good in aurics because it keeps you safe as the ogryn player
Havocs however requires you to keep everyone except yourself safe
>>541035467
Taunt is very good now
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>>541035467
Taunt has always been ogryns best in 40's because it actually keeps shit away from your psyker and vet
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>>541035467
Taunt is an aoe interrupt that forces everything including shooters to drop what they are doing and attack you.Charge sends you away from coherency and leaves your team stranded.
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>>541036084
>Charge sends you away from coherency and leaves your team stranded.
Depends on how you use it
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>>541036371
Do you really trust the average retard to use it correctly? And even when used correctly taunt still does a better job
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>>541035467
Its boring. Feels shit in aurics because there's never enough enemies. High havocs its very good.
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>>541035467
in non-havoc environments, it's not really necessary. but in havoc, you really need everyone on your team to be alive, together, and unmolested, and taunt lets you take all of the pressure that would be distracting your squishies from their important duties and place it on yourself. it's a really nice feeling to have a competent taunt ogryn on the team because it frees you up to focus on things that are potentially more important than dodging poxwalkers and maulers.
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>>541035467
A taunt ogryn enables the psyker to do 3 million damage.
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>>541036714
I don't trust retards with taunt either
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>>541037378
well what do you trust them with then? its literally just a press f and pull everything off your teammates button, as long as they arent on the other side of the map it will have an impact
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>>541035713
its remarkable how free 40's are if your team actually defends the inferno psyker instead of trying to make an epic sliding dueling sword weakspot montage
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>>541037983
>well what do you trust them with then?
Arbites
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wish they'd buff the values for the perfect block blessings and then place them on the duelling and devil's claw swords
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>>541039939
Wish you'd shut your fucking mouth
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>>541040006
>average chainaxe user reply
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>>541033270
I mean again I don’t think Chinese kids are going to go out and start messing with corpses because they played as a wizard that could control skeletons in a video game but I’m not Chinese so I guess I don’t know
>>541033754
Yeah I guess
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>>541033270
no, has nothing to do with that. it has to do with some communist law, basically those supernatural threatens their legitimacy or rule which was important during the beginning years of the communist regime, you saw the same shit in the ussr or nazi germany, but its like those old laws in the usa that say you cant ride a bike and carry a cake in rainstorm on the first tuesday of the month, except this is one they will enforce because any foreign game is required to work with a government owned company to be able to be sold in china like tencent or netease
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>>541034065
>>541034421
telling on yourself raj
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>>541041169
that's tyrone to you
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>>541041098
The USSR was very much founded on whacky borderline satanic mysticism but I’m pretty sure Germany had no such thing and I’m not sure either of them are applicable to this situation.
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>>541042248
The german leadership were massively into occultism
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>>541042248
they did, they got rid of the other religions its kind of the thing of those regimes. the point is that communism is the new state religion, and anything else is heresy and threatens them, that the point of the law, theyre getting rid of all the superstitious country bumpkins so they follow the government, and not some esoteric river spirit, for their cultural revolution, thats why they cracked down on buddhism and tibet
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I really like the generic "swords" in Vermintide 2. They feel so satisfying and well rounded. Like Sienna's generic sword feels 10x better than the ebin flaming sword.
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>>541042248
>himmler
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A lot of autistic reply chains I don't feel like reading through......
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36 back down to 32. This Havoc grind is unfun garbage.
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>>541044250
I can't wrap my head around demotions existing. If you can complete the level just let the person stay at that level permanently. They reset this shit every few months anyway.
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>>541044089
Subtle
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>>541042541
>>541043839
Hmmm I guess but it was in a different manner and not nearly as uniform as say the USSR
>>541042928
Sure but that’s a different thing from what was going on in the 40s in general, even though the same tenets are there.
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>>541044976
50 years didnt really change the ccp that much
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please god just give us a combat knife mk that is nothing but thrusting attacks
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>>541046178
>please just allow me to be borderline useless
Ftfy
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Hey. Haven't played Darktide in like 2 years and kinda interested in coming back. How is it holding up nowadays?
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>american hours
>cant get a single havoc done
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>>541046538
IT'S GRRRRRRRREAT!
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>>541046538
>How is it holding up nowadays?
with duct tape and elbow grease
server issues are still frequent
but you have more shit to do and new talent skill trees
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just cleared 40 feeels good man

>>541046538
nothing has changed, there are weaves and they shuffled some stuff around on the trees so each class has 2 builds instead of 1 except zealot
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>>541046527
literally not your fucking problem havocmonkey
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>>541044430
you shouldn't be able to demote past your highest historically completed or at least it should be 5-7 games before demotion because server disconnects, trolls, and other dogshit regularly ruin games
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>>541043882
make sure you add this to your livejournal
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>>541047523
I have lost multiple ranks because of server errors and disconnects. For something as unstable as this game is the demotion system is too punishing.
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the bigger issue for me is true survivors who seem to decide after the game loads that they didn't actually feel like playing
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*clunk clunk clunk*
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>>541047960
>the winning move is to not play
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My fingers smell like rancid garlic. Gotta go rub some stainless steel...
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>thrown off the edge
i disconnect
>someone blows up barrel next to me
i disconnect
>daemonhost gets triggered
i disconnect
>netted/hounded for longer than 5 seconds
i disconnect
>get hit with an overhead because my retarded teammates didnt stagger the enemy
i disconnect
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>>541048532
Valid bailout
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>>541047621
Isn’t that what he just did?
>>541048493
Strange post
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>>541048532
The ledge mechanic is really a head scratcher to me. I get it for having enemies push you off, but why have it trigger if press W to close to a ledge? I bricked a run on Vermintide today because I walked to close to a ledge before jumping. That's some Kaizo mario tier game design.
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>>541048636
What's strange about it?
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>>541048665
>why did I fall off the ledge when I fell off the ledge
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double barrel shotgun is a real headscratcher of a weapon bros
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>>541049430
One of one the later levels has some fucked up platforming where you have to jump between ledges over and over. I wasn't just running towards a cliff for no reason.
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>>541049430
if only the barrels and monsters were consistent
sometimes it barely moves you even if you're close other times it just yeets you into the ether
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>>541049739
meme weapon for malice
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Warhammer 40K: Barktide - Devlog 17
Subject: Plasma Gunners Go From Paw-some to Pupper-tier

Greetings, Rejects!

We’ve been listening to the pack’s howls about balance changes and today we need to address a hot topic: the plasma gunner nerfs. Trust us, it wasn’t a walk in the dog park making these adjustments, our data showed they were absolutely chewing through the toughest hounds in Grimbark without even panting.

What Changed
-Improved visuals: The Plasma Gunner’s chew toy (weapon) will now be slightly lit at all times so you’ll always see the glow before it bites.
-Aim duration increased: from 0.5 0.75 seconds. More time to sniff danger before it goes woof.
-Shoot cooldown increased: from 1.5 2.4 seconds. Less rapid barking, more panting between blasts.
-Reduced power: from 650 550. No more one-bite-kills-the-mailman levels of damage.
-Reduced base HP: from 950 900. A little less tough in the kennel.
-Limited spawn amount per difficulty. You won’t be swarmed by an entire litter of plasma pups anymore.
-Removed wall penetration. Their bark no longer goes through the doghouse.
-Increased damage against fellow enemies. The Plasma Gunner is now more likely to bite its own tail (or pack).

Dev Note: We’ve heard your howls about the Audio/Visual cues on Plasma Gunners. We’re working on clearer growls and tail-wags so you know when one’s about to unleash a real ruff time.
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>>541050901
This post is extremely low quality.
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>reduced spawn
yeah sure, just like with the crushers
good one Mr. Fatshark
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>>541050406
thankfully i no longer need to engage with it
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>>541051612
>>541051612
>>541051612
>>541051612
>>541051612

EVERYBODY MOVE



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